one here that beat seventh it's a little early in the morning but it's more of a brunch than a lunch believe teach seven all right so we really should have had we need to have a live update show or our next five years worth of movies we were just kind of talking about the last show i guess it was two weeks ago now let's talk about giant bugs remember the whole you know giant ants and giant spiders and even there was even a movie with giant rabbits and he was a part of that and it was  left but it was already starting that the rotating team they were was and that was a part of it it was just this group brought together for certain occasions to do certain stuff and by the end i think it's issue eighteen none of the original avengers were left so you had this rotating team and i think on that point it was hawkeye and quicksilver and scarlet witch and captain america so this constant flux rotation of teams it was important to the title to do that well i don't think avengers with man would have sold for anything so the nice thing about coming in at this level is you have this real history with the quote unquote original and then been passing over from hank pym to scott for good anyway to a new they're just there you know we're three different man so you have this history that's already established in the m m legacy developing it and the original and man actually was giant and goliath and yellowjacket in that time  frame and scott lang thank you so you have this pre history established in that movie which i thought was a brilliant way to bring him in up to speed and have that instantaneous history as doubtless so but at the same time we say marvel movies i think we need to make that statement that we're talking about the avengers pantheon of films only we're not expanding into your spider man's and x men says that the only two divisions left now really pretty much everything else is sort of controlled because guardians falls under that umbrella it's a disease it's going to wait until the people sitting on these properties just says we don't want this anymore smart smart to give us a list but i would say so as we see on the oh i just flew past it on the perfect  you know and there was a little hands in the avengers trailer that there might be a little captain america tony stark feud going on but it's not it's not really billion i mean part of the i think worry about combining it in everywhere is there's so much that happened throughout the civil war i mean it was the entire marvel pantheon and we're looking way beyond that into other registration of superheroes in other words you are iron man but i don't know who's in that suit of iron man i don't know it's tony stark in there or captain america i don't know who that is so it's a forcible registration and half of the heroes are for it they believe it's important and half of them are against it to protect their own identity and especially in places where there's a vilified nature behind those superheroes or whatever someone like peter parker being spider man violating that integrity and the worry of it not necessarily being that individual but more for that individual's life or you know may for example can't exactly defend herself against dan i was coming down and having that information so it's this back and forth battle captain america and iron man on the two sides of it but it really brought in the thrust of the marvel universe and major players on the keeping your identity secret we're like the x men as a whole group because they're generally looked at as vigilante forces they've inspired spider man to a great degree and those are players that are outside for the most part of that marvel universe at the same time like i just watched finally the x men movie which was a complete rewriting of that story and it's one of my favorite favorite stories days of future past done and of course claremont's run very early part of the one nine hundred eighty s and it was a total rewrite not much different except the villain are not much the same he said it was done and then they asked him when they that was the rumor before they even did their presentation and they asked at the presentation was a deal they said there was any casting news they would let you know right now everyone says it was done but that it's not  oing to report nothing to report what you see here move along that's an investment of let's say twenty million dollars they could pay off ten fold that takes it from a hundred fifty dollars one hundred fifty that's the factor that could bring people into another deal less kind of a character i mean dr strange is come and gone fifteen times over marvel's imprint and just can't sell it but it's done well and again it's something weird  book more in a fantastic sense with mysticism and magic versus you know out in space spaces been done been really successful i don't know what i can do but god knows they prove me wrong many times before i made brilliant stuff that i'm not excited about more the potential because it's a marvel movie but that doesn't you know fire me up and there is one on the list that really makes me excited and i'm sure  overstate the obvious but i think that's important because the minister has not come out for two years i mean his star may have fallen by that point and so you have to make sure that you're going to get some of the next season i'm sure a lock may have actually been aired by them so what four years from now there twenty seventeen the following year this wasn't a new movie but one we already knew about guardians of the galaxy two coming out in may of twenty seventeen but getting along to some of the the new you know the big dog compassing movies you know the revenge movies themselves as i suppose some characters although i've definitely have enjoyed you know the thor movies i think because they are very to me i guess it's screens more superhero because he's a god in essence more so than somebody who has super billie's that is of this this or i don't know so i guess the  there of it and then there's the title i think of it called black panther is coming out and then with a holiday movie of twenty seventeen november third twenty seventeen black panther so excited so i way excited a lot of different reasons and i think that perpetually under used character very different but i also like to show up at the airport well he's always in the important stories and then you never really hear or see from them for a while again but like you said he's super underutilized yeah he's always somebody who they all other characters seem to really default to him a lot of times like he seems to be really important in the issues and  only shows up sporadically things i love about it is a king i mean this guy's you know he has a royalty in this african nation but at the same time to fictionalized african nations has tremendous amounts of wealth and exists in this rather  stereotypically type african nation setting but a lot of traditional values and he's again a guy with you know sort of like your black panther esque thing but when a man named chris priest took over the writing duties in the ninety's and ran sixty fifty four sixty two issue run some like that the writing was great very different a little off beat out of storylines  so you tell the beginning of a story and then go back sort of pulp fiction ask but with a real humor to it and it had an edge but it wasn't that dark edge to it just fantastic little writing great characterization and i'm i can't believe they wouldn't follow the set up of this it's like the quintessential move there and a nice avengers character again reaching back into that avengers pantheon of characters great moves are speaking of what i read i don't know i know the captain marvel character they have to actually bring back every few years and publish him in some sense so they retain the rights to that property because it's sort of d marvel's slash timely comics and d c under the shoes sam icon it's the same you know the same name of a character they just can't call anything captain marvel they have to refer to him as she  sixty years after the good i mean the public shame something to some degree story wise because they're not going to keep the same people for the same how many times we heard robert downey jr is out of our man and then you keep signing on for another five the avenger movies usually have the best to offer although i'm not really excited by the age of ultron all things considered ok doesn't seem i'll be interested to see how it all fits together i'll be interested to see how the steps they've outlined lead us to age of  where it's going i usually know that you can like you said earlier they take stories they call the same title and they drastically change what they are like the issues and the movies as much as they want to be the same they're just not the same age of ultron is a relatively modern story i want to say last  year and half the i don't think it's that age of ultron though i don't think but i could be wrong i mean that's i be surprised if it has strong parallels to that age of ultron story alive it seems to be something more but you're right it just came out within the last few years events and it's a rehashing of stories gone by it was we think because we just didn't get much more than posters like oh here it's coming back played all what's in what you mean is coming back how is it coming back oh here's another one so they've been setting this story a lot of for a long time now how does age of ultron fit into all that is what i'm interested in how does age of ultron fit in with the master plan of getting to the infinity war is just like guardians of the galaxy which led us to infinity wars basically how does this fit in with the same thing and how are the d f you like how call it was like totally taken by that april fool's day joke which was you see you know he put out that marvel last year or something about to put out a announcement that they were bringing back power the doc movie and somebody sent it to him as a link six months later or something i was like oh i can't tell you how excited i about this and then like a couple hours later was like oh yeah i found out was made for fools day joke but link was tied to a great well how did yeah like you very adult very adult character in the comic books from my understanding of him so yeah you know humor aside you know after not did not do well with a p g movie you know i mean that i think i don't know print to relatively recently just came out again partially because of the interest in them from probably i mean you have to do it for the movies the movies other movies you're not going to get more from the movies by going i mean back again and oh they released i'm just saying at the beginning where they can but there's a connection there to fantastic four and also a connection to the avengers so they're really muddying the waters i have this great feeling that disney somewhere along the lines either going to say look here's our long term and of it we can let you keep leasing or returning to this lease but here's how much you're not paid for it or they're just going to say you know what you're doing and i know there's some sort of  agreement in there but they may just say look we'll pay the penalty and they're ours again we've got them i would think they would pay that they could get them all but if you could get them well under one umbrella guaranteeing and doing them the way they have the films on the way you want them to be done i can imagine th studios because it is again a separate entity from our whole comics right it's own business they're making so much money there's so much profit out there and they're losing profit by letting fantastic four slip by letting spiderman slip but i don't think they're necessarily there they're not making as much they're not making instead of losing money i mean it's a property that exists and they're getting paid when they make movies for it now i have noticed like x men advertising has been fairly last amazing spider man was a little disappointing comparatively i can see the character coming back into the fold relatively quickly we'll see and we're out of time but the last movie vendors infinity war part one may