s much about i mean it isn't enough that he's married the question is what happened that caused him to think that he needed to flee the country that he was a refugee and what evidence was submitted on that subject i think composition up to the nearest phone was there any evidence of minute on that subject other than his testimony no not on response to the i j a is admonition that he needed more evidence he produced evidence on things that really weren't issue and concern as well the only explanation that was given in the appeal to a was he didn't ask his wife for a corroborating statement because she didn't have much education and doesn't know how to write and so and he didn't say i couldn't find somebody he said and he was asked specifically did you ask her if you could find someone to help her with the statement no i didn't tell her this i mean that's not trying very hard to get corroboration and leads to question whe and also if we look at the many clients that that her illiterate in english you wind up preparing statements for them to sign i mean that's not hard to imagine is it  not value that kind of letter that you decide what i want to submit anything at all did he get anything that documented the fact of the abortion and submit that that he had a statement from anybody else that documented the fact of the abortion but then the  with the fact this occurred in his one month detention occurred in one thousand nine hundred eighty two that's sixteen years ago and he's lived in china openly ever since how was or any reasonable fear and time to provide them we would submit there he did not exhaust that and his appeal to the board he indeed said almost nothing basically what he said for his wife for him to divulge these terrible thing merely incidents and perhaps information to his high school age son or anyone else and it's indeed a more difficult person to raise requests for his wife and also even with respect to the wife in some instances yes the board has given less weight to family members affidavits but in this one since she was central to the issue in this case the or do or do we are doing now look at that in conjunction with the sterilization and abortion abortion of his wife so that was the ad resistance for count as part of his persecution resistance for opposing family planning in this case no but i want to say that in some cases it could but in this case no because of the sequence the timing mum and after that nothing happened to him sixteen years that he lived in china before he decided that he wanted to come to the us and when asked why he wanted to come to the us he said he wanted to change sorry what's your response to the passage and read the i j a muscovy up of your notice of corporation that is required and an opportunity either to produce it read the court so once you make your credibility determination if you find the person credible but you can still ask for additional conversation evidence i think re run was not out at the time and so when immigration judge me is the session so i think he was looking at the statute trying to follow the way he viewed statute and  petitioner waived an appeal and felt exhausted on appeal to the board he could have made all the arguments that read me to the board this could at this case could have been written but he didn't make those arguments so he felt exhausted