meeting and therefore prove the date of issue mr violator materials but does that mean that you have to bring a lawsuit in order to find these things out you have to expend energies to find this information in the point is that this four month period is not something the merchants pulled out of thin air there was a requirement of are there any is the language has continued in section fact or notice that there is something pending when the in should be aware believe itself in his notice that there is something that you need to be aware of then why do you need that last date and work ago when i was in was school i worked at the title company that will last a day that appears on the mean determines when you waive a exception as a title exception so when you record we can claim if you put down the outsider maximum date they have the claimant can ultimately claim that he did work so if you bomb an attorney who represents the claimant when the other side will know this true your honor can come again the purpose of notice is to matches tell somebody that the only thing is out there the importance is to tell somebody whether or not noticed the existence nature character leading the goes on to say and thus can be unable to learn from the claim itself whether it was such as can be enforced and then they go on the next page to say it's the fundamental or you know i really can't answer that question i don't know what what their thought process was i'm not sure they dropped the ball because they did put the who didn't put the four month requirement or they didn't mention t homeowner who's already paid the general who's now out of business and a sub contractor who has not been paid by the general someone is going to have to pay twice in real culprit isn't going to be the victim in the case in this talk about of course me just for a minute even though i know the time is up because i've been thinking about this question ever since the justice for talking about the language in first ability doesn't seem to be part of the language if the day th completion date is required does that mean there would never be litigation on these mechanics liens and if you're this is four months in this is the day we'll find home the whole purpose of the mechanics statute was to create an equitable situation to make sure that the information was correct and that there was value added and that that party was entitle to read the return of that value in some way so i mean if you just if you have the data in the why would there ever be any litigation will come ultimately there's litigation about whether the data is correct if the dig was in there in this particular case assuming it was filed within the four loans then we would have would occasion regard in on motion without trial if the information is contained in the lead and if i could make one other statement is any kind of regarding if you give them regard is that a lot of times these are filed that are smaller that will never be enforced in the hopes that the property will be refinanced or something and then they'll have to deal with that the main holder in their particular case that's where the four month that's where the completion date is important for