which was what we are here for is if there are any public questions on the to validate him and that is dealing with the seventy million dollars bond for the schools and the also the stormwater discharge issue thirty million dollars wastewater beyond any member of the public who would like to speak to us or ask us a question about these issues so i'm wondering what legally we need to do is your intent to leave someone present in the room until five forty five or are you intending to after ten minutes or so adjourn the meeting that is a good point house or bush or because that's true someone could come in they are here to start the meeting but it is scheduled to go to five as late answer five forty five i guess we will wait for a little bit and see if anyone shows up because of bush so with out legal well available from mr president i think the intent is to have somebody here to field the questions or at least hear that the questions from the public i believe that the council as a whole or in part doesn't really need to be present as long as this room is available until five forty five so could staff be designated to hear any of those concerns and then forward them to the council staying i'm going to be staying here till the time anyway so can i think we can recess because there's no member of the public here so so let's let's recess the council unless and until someone from the public shows up so the  good evening i would like to convene this regular meeting of the city council tonight at seven fifteen and would you all please join with me in reciting the pledge of allegiance now before i recognize callus are no dial on the agenda i would like to take a moment two days ago we had a horrific event in pittsburgh shooting a murder of eleven people in the tree of life congregational synagogue in pittsburgh an absolutely horrific event  and i would like to take a moment to think about the victims and send our sympathies to the victims and the entire city of pittsburgh so a moment of silence p thank you and let's hope that this country can find its way forward through all these horrific events that we keep seeing and that we can we here in burlington can continue to do a job in a positive way and stay this moment and go without a note here at at the city council i just would like with your permission just to add very quickly that one of the elements of this event is that i think it is shaking in jewish community throughout the country throughout the world certainly in this community and there is going to be an event in recognition of that here in burlington in cantars in fact tomorrow night from five thirty to seven thirty tomorrow yes present i would move to the men and the doctor agenda as follows to know the corrected version of consent agenda item three point one five which is a communication from the board clerk of the board of electric commissioners regarding the electric commission attendance record per councillor bush or note the commission report certification for consent agenda item three point one six a report from the cemetery commission and report and per councillor bush are removed from the consent agenda item three point two one which was a communication from public forum of time certain of seven thirty so we will not we will move to a couple of other items first and i am going to recess the regular meeting the city council to a to convene the meeting of the liquor control committee and so the first item on the agenda is the agenda commissioner dean thank you commissioner right i would move  is three point zero one first class liquor license i let you take from there all right thank you commissioner right i will move to approve the two thousand and eighteen two thousand one hundred first class restaurant bar liquor license application for b m enterprises l l seeing doing business is out whereas orlando's bar and lounge with the following conditions also the permits need to be closed out contingent upon fire marshal approval with all standard conditions and a special condition no partner on the license shall be convicted of a misdemeanor or felony criminal charge if any partner of the license is convicted of a misdemeanor or felony criminal charge d m shall be subject to an immediate suspension revocation hearing before the local control subcommittee if any partner on the license receives a misdemeanor or federal felony criminal charge medium enterprises must disclose a criminal charge to the local control so community within fourteen days of the charge these conditions apply to their first class restaurant bar restaurant liquor license application their outside consumption permit application and the indoor entertainment permit application and after second i would request the floor black for a few comments section macalso roof commissioner so i'd like to just take a moment to give the full commission view into what our deliberations at the committee level first note about the application that this is for the magnolia space of loss and lane  with the young group of interpreters who have significant experience with this type of business in music food and club operations and their intent is to open a business that's geared toward an older more mature audience  focused on acoustical music arts and culture and food which is at the center of their experience so i will say that the history of the past offenses that were given to us in the application where the central focus of an extended discussion among offenses and provided additional background information to us they freely acknowledged the mistakes that they had made and they were trying to hide anything from us and they committed to us that they understood the critical importance of not letting these mistakes be repeated and as such the committee concerned brought forward a tightly controlled and constructive conditions which we have just heard i think that these applicants recognise that there's a significant level of scrutiny here the police department is where the fire department is aware of the conditions of this application and they're going to be vigilant to assure that they're operational going to answer match we also would like to point out for further discussion that this application will also be reviewed although it's being supported here at the local level at the state level by the liquor control commission and also since we are proving this late in the year that this license will be up for renewal in april so this is a very short term license essentially provided under strict conditions so with that i'll end my remarks and turn it over for any other comments or questions from the other commissioners thank you commissioner gene discussion by the by the board commissioner bush or so so thank you i want to thank the chair of the subcommittee for the explanation as i read this i was confused because it it spoke to no partners a name being on a license yet some of the very  criteria mentioned that there are already been noticed or convictions so these are any new correct and so does is it important to add that to the language because if as i read it right now i thought that there were going to be other people stepping in to sign the life sign the license agreement i didn't understand it and so i i don't know how that plays out but that was my only observation  committee was to make sure that that did not happen again our feeling was that it was important for that to be established as a ground rule for securing the license for them to operate their business and  it reads so it says no one no partner on the license shall be convicted and if there are convictions then i thought that was a disconnect between the language and the experience so in response i would just say that that this is a language that was given to us as offered by the city attorney's office but it is for future any future offenses switch commissioner pyne thank you i appreciate the the difficult job that the committee had on this license given the background of the cancer and i want to just say that  i think everyone does deserve a second chance i think this is a case where we are giving folks a second chance who've had the experience that has hopefully taught them a lesson and i just want to be clear that we don't want to be looking back a year from now wishing we hadn't done this i just want to be really clear so that the applicants understand there's no there's no guaranteed right that you can get a license to sell alcohol that's a privilege we're granting that privilege and the expectation is is the applicants will take that seriously and understand that we're putting ourselves on the line as well not just reputations but the potentially of the safety of of this community so i think we have to be really cautious and be really candid about on ready for vote all those in favor of the motion please say i am opposed that passes unanimously and item number three point zero two now is a consumption permit application for orlando's bar lounge a move to approve the two thousand eight hundred two thousand one hundred outside consumption permit application for bt and enterprises l l c doing business as orlando's bar and lounge one loss and lane suite number ten with the following conditions also the permit needs to chair now looks like these three partners and now let's say if one of them is no longer part of the business anymore write down the feature they need to come back and apply for the license again or do they just need to notify you what  i think i believe that the standard is that they just need to notify us as a cook liquor control board committee of any changes to their partnership agreement lready understood that that's part of the application commission's application thank you thank you cancer jank other questions or comments hearing none all those in favor of approving the motion in the and we are now ready to reconvene the regular meeting the city council at seven thirty which leads us right into tonight's public forum right now we have just one person signed up to speak and their anyone else wants to speak their sheets over here in the corner table if you would like to speak write your name down and bring it over here to laurie in the clerk's office and she will get it to me so i will open the public forum at seven thirty one and the first and only speaker at right now is norman fisher mr fischer come on up welcome i don't want to wear out my welcome and speak and i didn't know i was going to be the only speaker but i'm back on the mural because something has happened with the statement by donald stevens chief of an arche and iraq the blowback went on for years and years as united states suffered because of this in this case i think that the blowback was predictable you go around throwing out the term racism without having an adequate basis for it and there is going to be blowback and his statement is watch out when you accuse people of racism i believe that i'm not quite their concept of racism but they've never proven any racism i would suggest that people if you have any doubt that rants against racism dominated the taskforce don't listen to what's  my view somebody who was not only an extremely interesting artist but somebody who understood the theory of art and its marvelous statement on his art you will find things that if you compare them to the task force statement are so much above anything that the task force said for example he talks about his experience in vermont working here for a year or so he brings out his  back background i happen to have lived in montreal for six years i know this man i know man strong intellectuals like peter hard i've seen many of them but his wonder the wonder of this man goes beyond where he lived and it's working in vermont he understands art not just his art makes plain and statement he understands art itself that is he understands that ar statement of a man who is committed to his vision who has the intellectual background to say this is my art i stand in front of it i've worked in vermont for months and months and months i moved to vermont from anyone here knows a lot of conversation going on about safe injection sites and whether or not that's a good move forward and i just want to but folks know i'm open to helping out there also had a number of common interesting conversations with some colleagues who are in the construction field on the waste water treatment facilities and was made aware of of a scenario in the city of syracuse where they had a similar problem looking at trying to split their stormwater and their their their regular septic lines and that's an expensive process to get to dig up a lot of the city what they didn't says they found a vacant parking garage or a vacant parking lot were able to put in a containment center where when they had storm surge it would hold that when they were over capacity and then after the storm had died down they were able to pump that out and the advantage that had compared to separating the lines is that when you did have stored a storm surge you could still treat that because there's there are so potential problems with the storm surge water getting into into the lake and that's another important with that those are the only two speakers i have lined up to speak so we will close out tonight's public forum and move to item number two excuse me move to the consent item number three the consent of janda cancer no doubt approving the consent agenda and taking the actions indicated please say i they opposed hearing none we have passed a consent agenda unanimously and we will i am now going to recess the regular city council meeting again for the purpose of allowing the mayor to move to meetings and the first would be the board of civil authority and then the next one is  the board of civil authority is adjourned at seven thirty nine convene the city council with mayor presiding at seven forty and three point one word of registration of voters for the term and being june thirtieth twenty twenty three this point i would open the like to make a motion to adopt our amended adopt the agenda as follows remove from the consent agenda item two point zero four request for abatement of taxes alan richard gensler and alan cohen thirty five cherry street and place it on the delimiter of agenda as item three point zero two per take the actions indicated on the consent agenda but noting for the record my recusal from item two point zero three which i did not participate at the subcommittee level either due to a conflict with my work thank  you so we're going to divide the question appreciate cats are rare i get to make a ministry of parliamentary decision here we will divide the question and have a vote on the consent of gender without with two point zero four and two point  those in favor emotion please say i like any opposed she carries unanimously now will go to two point zero three which cancer mason has recused himself from and have a vote on this consent i don't motion on th thank you so for the council's benefit this is the matter that had come up previously there was a two member subcommittee there was a split decision and i as to whether to grant or deny it came up for consideration by the full board there were some questions and i requested basically got sent back to the subcommittee to further inquire we did have our meeting the city attorney's office so this is home down in the north the north road there's a request a refund of three thousand i don't have a specific number here with me thirty four hundred dollars that had been paid the stated basis at the time was zoning dispute that had been attracted dispute with the city regarding use of another property that this family owned and that in the first application it was also disclosed that that property was under foreclosure so it was sent back to the subcommittee at that hearing we heard from kim sturgeon in the city's attorney's office a few things that formed at least the majority i won't speak for council shana but for my opinion the first was that there were continuing disputes with the owner in terms of the use of that property the second was that the foreclosure on the other parcel had been completed and the other piece was in terms of ability to pay which was something the committee looked at there was evidence that these owners based on their tax returns could afford in fact had already paid these taxes and second bill and secondarily that they owned other property in the state of vermont so on that basis the majority the committee you know unfortunately the applicant did did not elect to come to either of the decisions so it was really based on the papers that were submitted and i think the first was i would say a manifest on just this was the if i had to characterize the claim that because they got into financial difficulty in part was the allegation based on the dispute with the city as to the zoning use file ation and then the committee of its own volition because of the reference to the foreclosure sort of took up the question about is there an issue here about inability to pay so those were the two bases that the committee sort of teased out of the paperwork that was submitted so any further discussion mr gregory is the applicant here and does he want to speak and i haven't accomplished anything the first time i got a chance to talk to anybody you guys have been notified me and meetings have occurred where i haven't been there and as far as  for sixty eight north cold road and at the time i was asked if i planned on one of my business out of there and my answer was yes and the minutes of old meetings mysteriously disappeared can learn and myself and others have searched and they're gone and this whole thing stems from the very beginning my file was tampered with in the city here and it's been nothing but a horror show ever since i paid a ten thousand six hundred dollars fine which i shouldn't have to pay is going you know lopsided sixteen people against one you know i tripped up i missed one here it is over a fifteen and after the money came in it came into i was told they wouldn't talk with me because i had outstanding was no one in violation so i'm sorry if i sound like but looks like also missed a minute that you are currently not employed or looking i've been disabled for about nine years and you just stated that you paid over ten thousand dollars in legal fees  all the properties in the state of vermont i paid that fine with some money i was awarded and i got rich somebody ran into me while sitting at a red light and blew out my shoulders and that was a personal injury collection payment that i got that's why i paid it i think i don't know i'm ten million dollars in twenty years five hundred thousand a year gross receipts twenty percent profit on that and the last eight nine years i'm living in a thousand dollars a month my social security that's like a thousand dollars a day but felt in dollars a month i don't have any money i just have a question about the the amount requested is three thousand seven hundred two dollars and five cents is that  correct i guess i'm looking for a chair or someone who knows the file yes for the fact it's interesting penalties is what i was asking ok i just have an understanding of how we got to this number because this has this something that's been i'm asking the chair or staff or borrowed nine thousand something dollars to pay that off we're not going to exclude the last one for any reason at all as a matter of fact they want the city sent me two hundred fifty nine dollars but instead of applying it like it should have been and that cloud of the decision for at some point i don't know when all right thank you conservation thank you in response to a counselor no dels question there is a letter in the packet and it states in that letter city treasurer's office calculated penalties and interest of three thousand one hundred eighty six dollars and twenty eight cents and immediately following that is the tax abatement request form requesting three thousand seven hundred two dollars and five cents so i am not sure that it's clear what that additional amount includes because the request for thirty seven hundred was made received by the city on august eighteenth and this letter with the thirty one eighty six is dated march twelfth of twenty eighteen i would also note that the specific claim by the taxpayer in the letter was that it was manifest unjust thanks for coming tonight it's not easy to do you have three appreciate it and that's think we have and have to have a conversation about this process in general maybe going forward but so  issue really that i mean you asked for this and it is hardship for to come up with the thirty four hundred hours of what you're saying because  what we paid the whole thing off on the on the fees on the late fees and the penalty but once in one shop we borrowed the money to do it in one thousand dollars i got no thank you thank you yes right so we have motion  mayor i'm not entirely sure what happened relating to notice you know certainly my understanding is that you know there has been there was an attempt to reach out to you there were over a year now understood sir but there were at least two separate hearings you know where  subcommittee met and invited how was i notified mr murphy let me just finish please i thought you were telling me i didn't show up for me and i'm just watching how come i'm addressing your question on process these are unfortunately not they're difficult things i appreciate certainly for you but also for us because you know now excuse me this is the first opportunity we've had to speak to you ideally it would have been you know in a less you know formal setting intimate we were presented you know letters did go out informing you i appreciate you may have not received them it sounds like of those two subcommittees the hearings that we held the difficulty without getting into too much is you know we're struggle there are limited bases upon which we as a board are supposed to be able to  e taxes one of them is manifest on justice i appreciate the argument on that the other is hardship and i'm a little confused exactly i appreciate what you're saying in terms of hardship but there was also we were presented with evidence that the subcommittee hearing that there were other properties or there were other assets that could be you know that you had if true for me at least that spoke to your ability to pay above and beyond the tax return which was you know provided to us if that's not true there is not other property that i guess now that there's enough confusion here that i'm i'm just feeling that we have a we owe it to the process to figure out some stuff here i feel like there's a bunch of unanswered questions and current violations no you have none pending no i'm out of there i'm done i come i completed the billboard came down to a final inspection right before christmas was many year over year now and he said he couldn't give me the paperwork i paid and i gave him the check for the following and he they checked all the work made sure everything was right everything was good he said yeah i'll get it to you next week  inconsistent with what we were informed the subcommittee which was that there remained a continuing violation at this property and that although enforcement action had not been yet brought there were discussions about how to resolve that issue correct that's the city the city's belief is that there are continuing violations and we have not yet initiated a public action but are doing the preliminary steps towards tha  out outdoor having a lot of things outside on the property around the property that had to get cleaned up and moved and eventually were and after we went to ship it was reported to us in the committee that the zoning that there were zoning violations that they were rectified and the property that my recollection is that it's been going on for a year or more i don't know if you excuse me i can't strike can't take that isn't what you have no proof of anything like that i mean i have not been i haven't brought anything back to that property everything that's there now was there when bill ward did his final inspection and left i don't know what you're talking about i don't live in got any notices or anything and if you're going to tell me i'm in violation and talk about it here it be nice if i've been notified about being in  my understanding and i understand the taxpayer has has a different view on this and i respect that but the city has been working with him to try and get it cleaned up and has been giving leniency if he were notified i think that the fines would start accruing so i think that the city has been trying to work with him to get it cleaned up but if the committee needs if this committee needs more information that's you don't want anybody to be in  that's completeness of all bill ward is the one that needs to be involved in this conversation and can learn or two but bill ward is the one that did the final inspection and there's nothing new today mr mayor mr mayor i think part of the complication here is that haven't been notified haven't been you know notified that i've got a violation but now you're talking to me like i'm in violation my understanding is you have not been notified of a violation there my understand also is there were attempts i think one of th with yours or attempts and on the senate committee level that mailings were made to your formal address and they did not respond to can you so if i go on if you're going to notify me certified please i'm not going to or are you are you saying that you you did receive them but because they weren't certified q just ignored them no no what letters i was sent why don't you take those letters out right now look at the dates and read the letters and see what dates they were sent to me when did i get the letters under our under our code you know the city charter there are three bases upon which we can debate taxes first is there a legal which is not a question here second is they are judged to be uncollectable or third that their manifest unjust i appreciate that a lot of facts and tension here because of issues that have nothing to do with the request before us the committee looking at those uncollectable in the manifestly unjust made you know the majority of the committee felt that neither of those criteria had been hit if this you know full board of tax abatement feels differently that would be the basis to me all the other stuff unfortunately is just noise i appreciate there's a lot of emotion around that but from my action i appreciate council missions points on i've not heard either an argument as to one of the criteria against the motion when i would like to make that at this point yes i think in this us think that he has all the properties and in front of us i think he explained that those properties much of the budget which i think he could sell as well but but at the same time if we look at the issue the main issue it's not about him paying taxes but it's about the fees and press that been accumulating while he was under litigation with the city right i think  that enough is enough to be he's taxes and it will be considered as money firstly unjust and he doesn't even live in the property he sees own home looks like he explained to us that had been foreclosed and foreclosed meaning you don't have enough money to pay your mortgage and the bank will take it back i think that would be enough for a person who speaks in code thank you thank you cancer just consulted with the city attorney and you believe that the same standard applies to penalties and interest as applied to the underlying there isn't some distinction between the penalties and interest on the line taxes taxes in terms of the rationale that must be found for waiving them i'm sorry mary but i still have the same question i had before which is how did this many this much penalties and interest accrue did it cruel because there was living between just i just need to understand that thank you consummation sure if i may feel but no counselor no these were unpaid because he did not pay property taxes on this parcel penalties and interest accrued the stated justification in the writing was i didn't pay them because i was fighting with the city on another parcel not that  saying if it isn't true forgive me if i have mischaracterized what i read through fair fair enough my understanding is the penalties and interest excuse me accrued because of nonpayment of property taxes on the parcel that we're talking about answers and i don't want to kick the can down the road but for me to to to vote on this either deny it or not it would be help me to know how we got to this number i don't understand where this number comes  the three thousand seven hundred two dollars and five cents i get if there were supporting i don't think we have that calculation anywhere in the back of paperwork to it was thirty one i think thirty one eighty six just  president can mr vickery shed any further light on this i mean i think it's i think the difficulty here is that i would love to have seen the taxpayer have been at the committee level and had this vetted out and had some of can mr vickery is or anything else you can shed on light on this what i do know is that there were several attempts to contact the surveyor by letter not certified letter just in the same manner that occurs with everybody else and there was two meetings missed the first meeting and then it came to a council in the council moved it back to some of the committee would meet again and there was no meeting until now so this is his opportunity to speak unfortunately it would been better to have spoken more informally in a smaller group and how our taxpayers attempted to be contacted there's calls letters would usually just the latter can we get that tonight yes i think that's really a question for mr vicary can you get that tonight i don't know if i can the reason i ask not that i may need to i'm not saying that we need to but you know it might be our part to postpone action until we do get that number yeah i would put that out there so i'm not figure out which is penalties which is interesting and then maybe we can make a better decision and i think we can all feel better about that in the meantime though i would encourage you to have a better relationship with the city and i know it's been unfortunate we haven't been able to contact you by by mail but maybe before you leave tonight you'll give us some information where it's best able to contact you or how to contact you because nobody likes to be in this situation is we makes us uncomfortable i think it makes you uncomfortable obviously and nobody wants to be in that spot and that's that's not the purpose of how we you know how we do business here at the city council right we don't we don't want this and  so i think lack of communication seems to be front and center here and i'm not pointing the blame at either party but i think we need to just not as well and the amount as well so i will make a motion on the treasurer's office calculated penalties in interest of three thousand one hundred eighty six dollars and twenty eight cents and i would also like a breakdown on the requested amount which is a different number three thousand seven hundred two dollars and five cents did get some sense of what what is worded that number come from maybe from the materials that the that our taxpayer has provided is that consistent with your motion  give us that breakdown and if mr moore could provide and i would just note that the address that we've been sending to is sixty eight north cove road and if he can provide a formal address or formally communicate with the city if there is some dress that we should be mailing to other than sixty eight north cove road i think the city is obligated to send to that official address but you can certainly change that official address with this with the fees been a completing was it during the litigation against the city or not thank you ok i'll take that not as a formal addition to the motion but requests for information that related to the motion present r t just to agree with cancer shannon and mr mir and now there is some onus on you as cancer she indicated for you to make sure you work with the city to get us whatever information we can have so we tuesday nov thirteenth point of interest point of clarification there so it's a motion to postpone with a request to the city assessor to provide the requested information yes thank  dollars fifty eight cents an ounce for floor back briefly after a second mail and it didn't get to you however what was unique and this was the first time during my tenure was that there was an acknowledgement by the clerk treasurer's office that lost mail you know was an issue you want to our news new system and based upon that the committee felt that granting an abatement request was appropriate thank you recommend granting an abatement because something was lost in the mail but it also is the first time that i've seen and which upsets me somewhat that the city treasurer's office recognize last mail happens to be an issue that was news to me i don't know how frequently this happens up until this point it was the responsibility of the taxpayer to get their payment in on time  and even though you have documentation from your checkbook or whatever that was in adequate so the documentation i understand the rationale from the committees based on the the department the city saying that they that we're vulnerable that lost mail is an issue and so i find that disturbing that we haven't that hasn't been shared with the full council i find that disturbing that that's a rather large loophole for allowing anybody to potentially not meet a deadline and i guess i would like some clarification regarding that statement council today was the first time i've heard that raised so i don't have an answer for you except a promise to look into and find out what's going on so i just wanted to and with the fact that because the city acknowledges the that the city or at that the system that we've put in place could allow this to happen and that we acknowledge as has happened in the past i'm going to break from my hardcore tradition of saying no and i feel lousy about it when i have to say no but i will support the recommendation that the committee has put forward to abate based on the statement that the city made thank you and i would like just to bring some attention at the committee level we have done this before actually on with proven documentation from the post office for the correct postmark we  have so it's right it is but you saying last mail and so we have granted on the last mail before right that you might not have been the court's treasurers issue right it was an issue at the post office but it's lost mail however you want to look at it and so for me lost mail is lost mail and unfortunately if it was you know it's a problem the courts offices time we have been granted in basements on the last mail before with documentation from post office and when and with feedback from the post office so i don't think it's actually really fair to say that we have it in the past based on last night i think we have i've been on the i was on the committee when we did it and so i  i i think we're kind of you know in the middle here a little bit i don't i think it is kind of the same thing last mails lots of mail and so i don't think this is something new accounts or since thank you in the committee discussion it was acknowledged by the treasurer's office that there has been some problems with the last mail but part of that conversation was also that i know in the south end on our front porch forms we have had chronic reports of people not getting their mail in my own neighborhood mail was only being delivered four days a week at one point we have called senator leahy's office and been working with them to try and figure out what is the problem with our mail i myself had a self addressed registered letter that didn't get to me and i finally called down to the post office to find that my registered letter addressed to me and i know my  code was in the dead letter office so that experience and that has affected my thinking about loss mail and i do think that the taxpayer has to meet a threshold of persuading us that that's really what happened and we tried to do that but i do think we have a a problem in the last two years that we haven't  seen much before so i think for this once you provided a proof but i do agree anyone can say i lost them at any one case say but until you provide a proof that you did send a check to the city or to i'll bunny then i may i ask the committee how they were convinced that this individual did send the check in the mail because you can afterwards change your check register yes you're sorry  thank you mr mayor you are correct i mean there had to be a somewhat of trust and we did ask for a check register and we provided one with an appropriate date so do we know for sure that she didn't fill it in after we don't know that but it was our belief so we are back on reconvening the regular city council meeting at forty two a week out and we are back in the liberty of agenda item four point zero one is an indoor entertainment application for b d m enterprises doing business as orlando's barn lounge with the following conditions all city permits need to be closed out contingent upon fire marshall approval with all standard conditions and no partner on the license shall be convicted of a misdemeanor or felony felony criminal charge of any partner of the license convicted of a misdemeanor or felony criminal charge b m shall be subject to an immediate suspension or revocation hearing before the local control subcommittee if any partner on the license receives a misdemeanor or felony charge be the amount of prize must disclose the criminal charge to the local control subcommittee within fourteen days of that charge apply to the first class restaurant bar liquor licen application there outside consumption permit application and their indoor entertainment permit application moved by dean seconded by counsel roof any discussion so we have the application is a report from c c r p c good to see to montreaux i'm your representative to the regional planning commission and we're pleased to be here tonight to present our and report i'm here with charlie baker who is our executive director and in our report we provide a lot of information for you and charlie i think will be going into some a little bit more detail on some of the provisions that are in there but before i turn the microphone over to charlie i just want to say that our regional planning commission it's a it's a body that's made up of a number of different member news eunice polities in chintan county and in a few other partners and we're really fortunate on the on the commission to have such a strong staff that we have charlie is here you know representing the staff but he's one of many people there and we couldn't do the work on the commission without the kind of support that they provide to us and i think we are all the whole community all of the county benefits greatly by the support that we get from our really outstanding staff so i sit here and say thank you to charlie and the rest of them but as a commission i think we have a really strong group of people who really look out for the best interests of our county of our region it's a balance for of the needs of all the different municipalities in the county which sometimes there are conflicts between them but i think as a board overall we work really hard to get those resolved and i think just about all of our actions are almost always unanimous and with that i will turn it over to charlie to go over some details he may have and then welcome any questions that you may have thanks andy and i hope i don't owe you any money for the compliment thank you so that in the report we try to check in with every municipality every year usually in the fall when you're starting to think about budget cycles so very much as a customer service call i want to this is a great time for me to get any feedback about how we're doing and the things we can do better in providing service to the city i go to every select board in the county and have this conversation so this one's a little more formal in circumstance and bigger but but the conversations are always good  and i welcome any feedback that you have the first page give you some background about what the regional planning commission is as and he said it is the board made up of all the municipalities in the county plus other representatives from different sectors including primarily transportation where we get a lot of our funding we our budget is almost or mostly federal and state dollars you see there's a little discussion about how much the municipalities kick in for do and the amount that we are able to leverage out a fourteen to one return on the local investment down to the bottom you see representatives on our committees and i do want to thank you for having andy so this goes the other way too for appointing andy to the board it's  been really important for our board to have either sitting or former members of the city council or select boards just to have that that relationship and knowledge of the kinds of things that you think about and how you page because you have the longest list of services we provide is the things that we did specifically with this city and so those include projects that you probably have heard updates from time to planning by ways program g i s story mapping work with your parks and rec department happy to run it just take a pause because there's a lot of different projects lots of there are many of which i didn't touch on any questions feedback for us and like to hear about how you keep up to date the documents which in planning there's a tendency at some places to plan and then move on to the next plan and i want to know how you're keeping this lively the ecos planned that that's an changing needs and how their policies can advance those goals are not a couple thoughts on that one is your plan documents get updated every five years we just updated the coast plan this past spring actually i think that's in the next i'll talk about but you know and we kind of have those conversations many of those conversations are with municipal staff about things that are changing and the priorities the big picture visions off i would say is primarily not changing you know where i think there's a very strong support in the county for smart growth efforts for multi modal transportation i mean a lot of the things i think that the city talks about here clean water  issues energy getting to the energy goals and so i think a lot of our focus has also been not just on updating the plans but how do we actually implement those plans and so we're trying to do what we can to support pusher so thank you i was looking forward to this report and i have a question for you so it's going to be specific to one project that i've been involved with alternatives and one of the things that came out of that short term was that because of the safety issue there should be a pedestrian crossing at barrett so this is a specific item and i'm just not clear i felt that i was i'm not clear how that's handed off to get implemented from regional planning even though i'm a part of that committee i guess i thought it had life from that committee but it has really we've had to really stay on top of that and really work with the department of public works to actually make that happen even though this was identified a long time ago as a priority because someone was actually killed at that intersection so i'm not sure about that can you just add some clarity because i think that would really help us understand how regional planning and the committees and the the groups that all of us get to participate in depending on where we live how how those short term agree agreed improvements get passed off to the community and who's supposed to watchdog and make sure they happen could you touch upon that please could so i think that's the biggest challenge with our work to be honest and i think it's some of why i maybe had a little bit of reaction to  r pine's question about color over planning and over promising and under delivering so that's a concern that i have generally so i've been trying to coach and work with staff of like let's make sure particular when we say the short term recommendations is there somebody to hand them off to is typically either the municipality and sometimes it to be trans when we're talking of these transportation projects but is there really ownership and the ability to carry through on that i'm not going to say that system works perfectly all the time and you know there's certainly a lot of competing demands for implementation dollars that i know you're all too familiar with so it's a question of even though locally that may be the number one thing to do as it's mixed into the pot of what gets done citywide i'm sure there's a lot of competing interests that may not be we thought was going to happen in the year two it may not happen for three four or five years  so i think that's just a reality of scarce resources to address the priorities that come out a very localised projects it does and i guess my only comment is that i would request that when you form a new committee that you make sure that people like me who maybe aren't on committees all the time become aware of their responsibility to kind of oversee those short term recommendations in their own community so there's some more ownership and more eyes trying to get that job done thank you you know we could probably do a better job of wash our you know to jang thank you president thank you for being here thank you mr monaco and my question is very specific he's about the public health you know based on my understanding all your work was about you know the rules in b d s but  looks like you guys go up wolf in that and i wanted to you to please explain if it's possible to tell me specifics here in burlington and maybe in we know about drug use prevention as well as i think largely we were playing a little bit of facilitation and fiscal management role and not not a direct service role in that work so a little bit more of a support role in terms of broader prevention issues and i'm going to forget the name of the organization but you have a partnership for prevention and yeah really and partners are for prevention thank you i should know that and the there's a contract from the health inch in the county and they've contracted with us they've turned us the lead agency we then subcontract out to those partnerships so there's one in burlington one in milton and provide funding and some oversight of their work and some assistance mostly the system has been in the form of g i s mapping and analysis work so they've been mapping like where are the liquor stores or the stores that sell cigarettes and trying to help that part local partnership address issues around advertising to kids and things like that so those are kind of the two areas specifically where we've been focused on public health i think there's a lot more conversations we have there about how transportation integrates with public health etc and so when we talk about public health it's not necessarily told the time about drugs right substance abuse but it's modeled so about sugar about health about you know healthy the public health conversation which is really about community design and designing healthy communities sidewalks and bike paths and safe bicycling access to transit i mean again all those things that we talk about we talk about housing policy and community development pine just wanted to report that the community development neighborhood revitalization committee was in planning to meet jointly with the ordnance committee tomorrow but in light of the recent events in pittsburgh and the community vigil that will happen  the two corps guarding the reuse sites we had a meeting last week and discussed the reopening of the reuse sites and potentially some strategies to hopefully deal with that need here in burlington one idea that i thought was particularly good that council or bush are brought to the table was that if doing so in a volunteer basis or having volunteer staff those sites other issues that were explored were issues of how we communicate to the public around availability of those resources and how they might be able to do that we also directed c s w representative mr green to bring that feedback in the strong desire burlington to see those sites reopened addressing and beginning to address the issue of the central peddling district in the downtown specifically we had a suggestion for providing additional food truck options for food products within the several petaling district i think this excited some concern on the part of the council so they're at our last meeting i shared a a resolution with the other members of the licensing committee which discusses  a process to actually look at their central petaling district which has not been touched in twenty years with a special ad hoc committee suggest that hoc committee we're still investigating and i'm getting input from my fellow committee members but we're hoping to bring this before the council at our next meeting on the thirty i did share that with counselor the touch of that with the president right as well for his input yes thank you it's probably the second step in the auditorium and so we're out there with the process looks like and more community input so that will be december six town hall style meeting that will be the next pack meeting and that will be the only item on the agenda that night so be right here in contests so i would encourage everybody to come to that and see we're our sewer and that process two of the things i like to mention we're in as we believe they're not getting close to new year's eve in the city arts is kicking off their new year's eve event which is going to be called highlight you're going to hear a lot more about that in the coming weeks i think there's kind of a grand kickoff on november fifteenth hopefully a big press conference but city arts has worked hard and it looks like it's coming together fairly well it should be a pretty exciting night and i think we're very fortunate to have such great arts programming in our city and i think highlight is going to be a big success here on new year's eve and i think that's a tribute to our values here  and the third thing i would like to mention is just at our last pack meeting and i also attended a press conference as well as for all presented also at the pac if you guys aren't familiar with this program and what it's all about i would encourage everybody to take a look at this it was an exciting day down a local edge i haven't been to a press conference i like that a long time it was for it was freezing cold but to hear the speakers that spoke that day from their heart and to hear their personal stories how it affects their families was it was something i have heard really in a long long time and it was just really stuck with me and i think it just it just another benefit  of who we are here bryant and i hope that we can all get on board and be engaged in that it was unfortunate that their grand opening was canceled started due to wet weather but this is a group that is determined i know the city is partner with right public safety committee has set a date to meet which will be next month on the fifteenth five thirty will probably be in room twelve will take up two items first being the  policy to breathe in public and then we'll have our time with another public safety committee will also be looking at a proposal for how to move forward with improving access to public bathrooms in the downtown  broken boys soccer team in a big game tomorrow at seaview at three o'clock semifinals so we'll be rooting for them i plan on attending and then coming right here afterwards vigil and i do want to recognize they've had a great season they were the thirteenth seed in the state and they've knocked off the four seed and they knocked off the fifth and to morals big game is against the number one seed seaview and so we're rooting for the certificate of achievement for excellence and financial reporting award that went to our treasures office and so i wanted to congratulate everyone in that office but certainly the chief administrative officer beth anderson and the director of financial operations richard goodwin so i just wanted to acknowledge the good work that all of you done and that it must be very satisfying for you to have external recognize that work and so many ways congratulations the second thing has nothing to do with congratulations it just wants i just want to report something that's going on and in my neighborhood and it has to do with most of it's going on in the community garden that is in ward one and there's been significant vandalism destructive vandalism we have a shed that has tools in it and someone actually ripped the wooden door and lock off and i don't know how they did this  but and then through that and had access to tools i don't know what was taken but some of those tools were used to dig up people's treasured really harvest of leaks and things that take forever to grow just mean spirited things breaking plants and and stealing hay and it's something that's really hard to understand who does this it doesn't seem to come from a point of need it seems to come from a point of greed and destruction and sometimes i question whether the people that are doing it are intoxicated when it's just the end alyssum and sometimes when they're taking vegetables i don't know what their purposes so i just wanted people to just be aware that people are on my street are trying to watchdog and trying to figure out  who could possibly be responsible for these acts and if you're watching and you know that you or someone you know has taken action like this i just want people to remember that if this was your stuff no matter what it was computer whatever you don't want someone destroying it so please be considerate  counterpart just to point out that the city has adopted the i believe it's the city perhaps it's the marketplace but i think they're called green ride bikes they're very green and they have their own bike racks and as a regular bicyclist  i'm really excited to see this service and this this provided as a as a service but there's twelve racks out there for those bikes and there's three for the rest of us who just ride regular old bikes and so i don't know how we can more equitably distribute but the prime parking in front of city hall is taken entirely by those bikes and i was told by someone was pretty good but i'm a regular bike on that rock but it wasn't intended for regular bikes and so it's as though the one bike is now more important than the other and i think we've got to just be treat the same which is great access to great facilities for everyone and right now it's the latest shiny object or the green ride share bikes and they're definitely at a higher higher the hierarchy is suggesting that they're more important than regular bikes has have heard about it and if you know franklin square behind franklin square there is this green area that very beautiful wetland beautiful trees and we know that the  also that it will be but that specific area i don't know where to start should we talk to building to housing or talk to max and i don't know exactly what council update not much here just reminding people that there is a work session play and for our next city council me from probably six to seven the rules issue out of the church change so everybody make sure that you've read the please vote number one and also remember if you have absentee ballots mail them in time's getting short you can come to city hall and vote in person still right up through this week so we want everybody to take the opportunity to vote and do the right thing and vote and there's no subliminal message there either so with that i'll conclude that item and go to a number eight which is the mayor and general city affairs mr ma completion of phase one which of what is really mission to be a two phase project so there are three new pieces of parks playground equipment that have been installed and that are usable by the public  are fully accessible pieces of equipment they are certainly usable for children and individuals with mobility issues but they're also usable members it's really a universal design and something that everyone i think would enjoy encourage councillors if you down that area check it out because i think it is important to see this and understand phase two is going to be substantially harder phase it's coming next it's going to require it's going to be more expensive phase it's going to require substantial amount of private contributions the way it's been a vision and good news in response to a press conference last week we got a fifty thousand dollars check today so it seems that that fund raising is is off to a good start but more and more to come on that playground it really is a unique resource within really the regions parks  offerings of this point we hope to make it more so i had a chance to check out conan maker spaces last week and this is another interesting thing happening in the city which is quite exciting i think  often when change comes their cynical concern about it and i can think of a number of times in the south and where we have had seen where there were specialty filaments closing shop  r resource moving out real questions about what would happen next steve conant if you have not had a chance to be in that building yet i'd encourage people to check us really quite remarkable collection of organizations and businesses that are there that he is curating very carefully i think that really has the opportunity to fuel a whole nother generation of innovation down in the south and it does it just share with the council it feels to me that this is part of a broader trend that s happening where we have a really new and kind of interesting ways of business different types of businesses being collected together and in different types of work spaces and at the located here in the downtown is opening for a fourth season and this time it will not close in till june which is a first up until now we have always closed in early to mid april there was concern about that last year and with the additional funds in the city's budget this year that season will be extended it will also be measured will be  really looking to see whether having this facility open for a longer period of time is becomes another important tool in the city's offerings when we engage with the homeless this effort the atmosphere that they create there the way in which they manage the program has been extremely effective there is a role for volunteers who would like to help support this effort there are opportunities to help cook warm meals that are they put a lot of creativity into this weekend event the hollowing bike ride which just took place yesterday it's a ninth year that this is happening really wouldn't happen i don't think without a credible personal energy put into this by john adams call it's this year was the best edition yet there may be controversy about bike issues around the city in a variety of ways there is no controversy that the best costume was a new north then costume you got star it was a quite with a complete with a r two d two version of milo on the back seat of it was quite something great event and it's really quite some of the way the community responded the sponsorships felina as it was behind it and feed everyone it was a great event there's another great event happening thursday up the street up college street if you haven't been by college three recently next time you go by you'll see a huge change when you get to what used to be the ethan allen club it's not there anymore hasn't been there for a few weeks and a new building is beginning to rise from the site the ceremonial groundbreaking is taking place this thursday at eleven am for the new y m c a facility this  project decades in the making in many ways real achievement for the organization that after years of work they have gotten this project off the ground and up and the one who can is welcome to has been working hard for weeks now to feel for the upcoming election it does appear that as has been the trend in recent years more and more people are taking advantage of these early voting opportunities which is what we hoped they would do and what they were designed to do but it takes a lot of work from the clerk treasurer's office for that actually to succeed and we thank the whole team that's making it happen and i remind everyone they have a week left to come in and vote here at city hall up through the monday before the election and then again for just i think the second or third election we will have same day registration at the polls on tuesday again for the selection so if you have not registered yet that is not a problem you can do so right up through election day that is what i've got person right thank you mr mayor are you sure you don't have one other i mean like the metro w you know you want to since you mention it look at my congratulations go out to the two thousand and eighteen boston red sox for their successful run to the playoffs for those  for prior to two thousand and four this is a welcome change and this team is really quite quite something special i think i'd have to say present i think this goes down there is one of the great all time teams from any to at the end of that so we need we can use a motion to make a finding that premature disclosure of the information is going to be conveyed and to obtain legal advice