all right we had kind of a shift from the normal agenda because it was getting on a plane and we wanted to make sure there was nothing that he wanted to participate in before he left but right now we'll start the meeting with public to be heard if there's anything that is not on the agenda and stage a name for the record please and we'll start with  and rather than just look at the number of hours i think it should be a broader discussion and how we buy time to be covered because there are positions that we may be better served by making them appointed  rather than elected at the moment but so that is my feeling right but the board has not taken an official position i have an opinion myself but not the you know the board yeah the board has no official i mean why would we it's not really something that we should weigh in on i think there's pros and cons to both first this is me speaking person right now for the board but we work really well as a three person board you know we have a lot of stuff come up and have a great balance sort of senior and junior and different types of opinions and we've had many differences in the past but we've worked through them pretty well and i'm not going to say we're all we're not always in agreement when it comes down to the goal but the other thing that even as a three person board even though sometimes it's just two of us here we almost always delay volts that we think the other person would really need to be there for in other words if there's if it's just me and katherine tim's out of town we will we will sometimes table issues that could be contentious because we want his opinion or issues that one person is dealing with more than the others like you know tim and tim sort of acts as our unofficial liaison with the fire department so if we have a fire department budget thing come up or question about their practices at all you know we would we would most definitely make sure that that was only on the agenda and meeting that he was personally i feel  that in some ways it would be helpful to have more members and more opinions on the other hand i realise that things will take longer to get there got more discussion you have quickly but it's not really that's not what the select for good i mean we we get the information but that's where you have a down in history full time person who's dealing with those issues in some ways if you look at that a three member board actually is more beholden to the open media longer than any other board because if the two of human i met for coffee at the village half and we started talking down number that's required for the vote it will happen but you know it may not satisfy what he was hoping for in terms of you know getting people to very difficult to get people to volunteer for the board so it all has its cons there are some pros to staying where we are and if you don't like who you can work to get somebody else elected  cetera i think will because it has not gone to a deer be hearing the town does not notify the buddy land loaders unless something goes to a deer be here and we absolutely do do an awful lot of work there because of the storm destruction but in the meantime a covert push put underneath baldry hill road that empties onto my line where we would put the driveway to get into the lawn so there you know it would have to come out if we ever did no real high again all i'm saying is i wish i probably would have even said yes go ahead do it but the idea that it was done and nobody bothered to contact the property on my car well anyhow that property i mean it's not supposed to train original building as opposed to highlighting it so personally i like i don't like either one of these i sadly as well as the potter edition that she had presented but given the choice between the two of these just in terms of like i like i should be better for that same reason because it's more of a contrast and it looks more like an addition and it doesn't compute as much will you originally like it if you look at the plans he doesn't own security historic buildings as much as  they want to give us and you state your name for the record anywhere you want ahead and you know work through what we need to do as a town because the lawyer says it's fine so we just need to follow the steps but we don't actually have to build a trail immediately other parts district and how they deal with you know this kind of stuff being this will have the trail but maybe it's not open to the public because the trailers with built stuff as you said you don't even know we don't have to have everything in place as soon center we can get the convenience and then work through the process because we really want to do it right to it if it works for everybody because this is unique and it's a wonderful opportunity yeah yeah th construction this summer decided in july to lay the project until next spring because the town was still dealing with storm damage repair at the time fortunately the paving and splitter island contractors agreed at that time to hold their prices subject to any considerable increase in material costs until july first two thousand and fourteen now the vast majority of storm damage repairs have been made the highway crew is going to begin preparing the gravel section for the installation of the splitter islands and pavement they should be able to finish their work by the middle of september not knowing when next spring will bring staff checked in with the paving and splitter island contractors to see if they'd be able to complete their work or a portion of it this fall which makes sense to me just interjecting here because that's the way it was paving contractor said they could do the entire project this fall if weather cooperated if the weather did not cooperate then they would put the top coat on and install the speed tables in the spring after reviewing the several actions of staff's opinion that the best option is to install the splitter islands and to lay the base course of asphalt this fall with the top coat and speed tables installed in the spring we believe this is the best option for the following reasons one of delaying the top speed tables until spring defers approximately one hundred  seventy two thousand dollars of the total paving cost of three hundred sixty seven thousand until the spring after all town talk the town taxes have been collected reducing the impact on current cash flow too with the delay of the top coats estimated that the expense for the splitter islands and base course of asphalt this spring would be two hundred sixteen thousand five hundred which could be largely covered by transferring two hundred thousand out of the road improvement reserve fund twenty five thousand this budget budgeted one hundred seventy five thousand would be done in anticipation of receiving the paving grant once a grants funds were received they would be transferred to the river reserve fund to make it whole laying the first coat of three laying the first coat of asphalt this spring would protect the needs falls he does absolutely first coat of asphalt this fall would protect the work done on the gravel porch and this fall because valley is the most sense to me because we could lose it it's like trapping it in and do we don't want to lose all our gravel and have to start over again in the spring before we get ready to pay for exactly and for delaying the topcoat would allow the gravel portion to go through a freeze thaw cycle so we could address any problem areas hopefully there will be enough before the final code is put on this makes perfect sense and five there is a risk in terms of increased costs and further delay to delaying the project as we do not know what weather spring could bring us up splitting it's a great thread so i agree with all that reasoning and i think  and we're not going to because if we tried to do it all because they said they could do it and then the weather gets ahead of it away from us and it's not finished and people go wait a minute and this  it's problematic and who knows the cost of gas what might the expensive right but we get now we best of both worlds right just as an update on the money few dollars may be you know ninety thousand dollars back if they are still working through the process it's going to be accepted for june and july expressed especially since he's trying to do so two cultures and they're questioning them so this is very good on the record so obviously i have to present this but yeah it's very complicated ok well after her yeah we had said that we would continue to offer health insurance for employees which is important and we thought ok let's go ahead and do basically what we have been doing in terms of numbers  what happened was we didn't when we said that we did not know what the rates with him were going to be they now have been approved and comparing the b c b s platinum plan that's the closest to what the town provides based on the total out of pocket maximum the numbers we had initially suggested would cover hundred percent of the premiums for single in two person plans but only ninety seven percent for a family so essentially your family plan you know way so what he's proposing at this point is that we go back to what we had done when we were providing the insurance ourselves is where we provide ninety percent of the premiums for everybody single person or family turns out to be about the same about because so much more for the right exact it's but that way that's what other companies that's exactly what other companies do and that's what we're going to do is tie that ninety percent to the premium for the b c s papum so if somebody wanted to go less they could but on the other hand any savings from that is going to created the town and not to the individual why would they want to go less than i mean well that was a pick a lesser plan if they're not going to get more money in their paycheck for well that's essentially what we're pushing that would isn't it i don't know where they would lead they wouldn't but this this guarantees that they wouldn't because it's a they've they wanted to go last because they thought well they get a few dollars in their pocket this says no we're going to this is really the best way to be covered because it is it's less out of pocket money however it does have saved the town money and so it can be covered like ninety two percent or something why well he's going to but he's what they're going to do instead is actually give seven hundred fifty dollars a year for singles into people's family get fifteen hundred dollars to use for flexible spending oh i see so we're not taking that sixteen thousand and putting it back into the general budget we're taking in putting it in the health care but that's good and that's why if they get a flexible spending account it can use some of their out of pocket expenses you know  including dental and vision and people also put more into that account themselves i would imagine you could i think that's what flexible spending has ok but it usually is like that but usually it comes right out of your paycheck and goes into your right spending right dollars and under the platinum the premium will be five hundred eighty two so actually you're still going to be paying less at the ninety percent rate you know than they are now so they will see a savings and what the town will do is the town is going to continue to offer insurance the town is going to sponsor the b c b s plans and that means m v p s nothing be veiled but that's because in peepli plan right now is as approved is much summary is what he's proposing that the slate we're considering is a the town's going to continue after insurance b will sponsor the blue cross blue shield plan will pay ninety percent of the premiums of a platinum plan purchase a plan that the have time to talk to the employees yeah about you know because health connect is confusing a lot of people oh  underhill task force and we have the little bite that has the you know turns on the lights the kids just love it because you can see how much energy it takes to pedal that bike to do it incandescent and then you do the  with you can tear everything off but leave one on so that you know you're not losing your leg tronics if you don't want to light you know the stupid digital clock being after set all the time and last year we had a microwave talk anything substantial should not be done in other business but since we are time limited and in order to get the two week warning favor jennifer and make sure you get that out of all the online forums and make sure that you do it more than on already i did not see anything in the minutes that jumped out at me here there was only one question i has on page five line