selectmen and i urge the school committee to get behind this because the building committee will be voting on whether to include solar here tomorrow morning or friday and that they are watching and to see what we do because they are very aware that there is a climate crisis and they are aware that when we build to building that in my so i just want to make sure that you all know that they are watching me want out so we have no adjustment lot of teachers generally think that this is gone really well and has had some really successful of the facts and we think it will benefit more benefit from it because the teachers who are coming the  the workload that students have and we think that this will really help teachers get better understanding of stressing stresses and student life but not only that we think didn't and he does have enjoyed having this experience of being able to like go through the classes and just kind of get an understanding of what the which has been done over the last two months at this point before we go into our june town meeting we like to present our final budget usually it's the same sometimes as a few changes between our st draft of our nd draft which is the case t folks and this is a executive set of slides it's not a full budget we are looking to see a budget with a six point four three percent increase from fifty six million nine hundred and eighty five thousand five hundred and ninety dollars in f y nineteen dollars to fifty eight million nine hundred and eighty three thousand in seven dollars in f y twenty that's a change of one million nine hundred and ninety dollars so i apologize over the last few years we have been trying to create this breakdown of the needs of the district from what it cost to move our district forward which is all of our staff and all of our expenses move from one f is peaking right now with the four largest grades that will be at the check point for high school teacher that will be stretched across now and social studies for a new course that we're going to say is our st attempt at  disciplinary teaching between our departments at the high school or st formal course that we're doing up a quote for assistant principal which will give us four individuals with three full time equivalencies for the high lines of our budget we have indexed three percent instead of the seven percent of the normally indexed because we are able to utilize our circuit breaker funding in our overall special education revenues creatively so we have done that as or less money coming out of the general fund budget projected solution cost informed by the district we use our multi year our district tuitions funding plan which is a three year plan that we update each year we have this conversation we get this warning at our fin eight million nine hundred and ninety nine thousand two hundred and twenty eight dollars so that's what we're asking you to put to for god tonight and we will present this full budget presentation in june to tell   i do not believe that process will be concluded in time to impact the next year's budget however we are only in that stage where the host one budget and other governor's budgets been considered one is kind of pretty fitting to have this discussion we've heard as a community a lot of talk about ziad in recent days and weeks and it continues to occur and i think that's good that we continue to talk about it i like the fact that it's up there in front we've got a couple of folks that just today's meeting with the comments it's interesting that some of the the comments i'm hearing focus a lot about what sits on the roof of the tax but see any there's a lot more than that and i'm not an expert in this i'm learning as john is learning and we're all learning but we brought an expert in this we're going to talk about how we achieve the energy that we are going to be saving people two thousand and sixteen didn't know it was he met this really good so the dialogue that was created from that that moment educated us in a way that created this momentum that's moving us to make it better to create buildings  saves the most energy and we feel good about it so what we're going to talk about is how we get to that level and what it means to be certified but we can still be a heck of a job saving a ton of money for dollar and not have that title and soon we heard the term five million dollars over and over again five billion dollars but the photovoltaic system we're going to here is a smaller piece of that total five million dollars it's about the design of the building about the building systems about the mechanical system about the windows the in the middle of the building the way the buildings oriented and so our energy consulting which i learned a ton from team or with impossible is going to walk us through this presentation and is reaching out with social media i say reach out to me i haven't had one invitation come and talk personally about what the building needs and what we're doing as a community i just get a lot of e mails saying what we should be doing actually if it got back to  i asked me to talk that's what i just heard about a school group i know there's tile groups out there happy to talk about this in and explained what john's asked me to do for you tonight what it means to be very energy conscious of having the best building we we as a building committee will turn this building over to school part of the town of element we will not be able to achieve zero no energy status because it's not about designing the building only it's about using the building the attitude of those that use it will eventually get to a level that saves a great deal of money and resources and rob's going to talk about what that means from his experience in other buildings aster turnover we could only aspire to do with some of these buildings are doing the country thank in the throes of violence nearing towards the end of the design development phase the information i'm presenting you to tonight came about through what we call energy modeling that occurred over the last several months so it does not become to the minute information because we don't know exactly look the project is until we get through this dying engineering process at which time we will update the model but it's a good snapshot in the future of the energy requirements of the building and how much of that can be  t renewable energy systems on the roof of the new build right now we're estimating the annual energy use for the building to be just over four million kilowatt hours per year and to to have a quite that to the amount of energy per the amount of energy or you know square footage compared to your existing high school the existing high school is using a proximately four times that amount of energy per square foot of building now this new buildings are going to be a bigger building so that's the relative change in the amount of energy per building area so that's an indication of how much more efficient this could be right now we're estimating that the amount of p v that we can that we can reasonably fit on the roof of shows things like how much energy we expect to buy a lake system how much energy will be used by the plug loads fans and so forth that's a way of understanding where the energy and how the energy gets used will get used to the new building the way we do all of this estimating is just through something called an energy model this simulates the the operation at school for every hour of a typical year so it's a one thousand seven hundred and sixty hours it's based on a simulation engine is developed by the department of energy which we then do additional post processing after we get the results of the model again i said that the results are going to show you tonight have been in the works for less several months so while it's not exactly what the design will be after we get through back to engineering it's very close and we will be updating this is we go through the project now important thing to understand is that a lot of the energy use for the new school building is going to be based on what happens inside the building and the will of the occupants are going to do inside out so over thirty five large amount of equipment is going to be used in places like the kitchen the i t equipment auditorium so all that together is what the occupants control is the equipment that is used day to day in the school it's not the things the design team is necessarily using it's a significant amount of the annual energy use so it's important to understand that it's also an opportunity for the occupants going forward as they start to use the school to start to understand how energy is being used to reduce their impact on them and build to use less energy and they can have a tremendous impact on the overall energy use the built because we also look at how the energy get you how the energy gets used over time to look at it how it gets used in various places within the school so these two risk start to show a lot of the energy used is used during the school day but more than half of the energy is used outside normal school hours and things like the summer program weekend on summer use night time and then after school program and then the other thing we look at is where in the school building has the energy being used and as you can imagine a lot of that occurs in the classrooms for the com now this graph is very important because what this graph shows is over the course of the year the impact of the building energy of the building heating and cooling loads on the geothermal little sister so the red part of the graft is where there's heating required so we're trying to pull heat out of the ground and the blue for a breath is where cooling is required in building suresh really taking the heat out of the building and putting it into the ground the important thing to understand about this crap is that at the present time the amount of heat energy that we need to pull out of the ground st thing out cooling that we put the projection we put back into the ground is pretty well balanced and and by doing that we've been able to bring the well field size down to what we started with the four hundred well estimate it's down now around three hundred dollars wells because of the balance of the load so we'll continue to look at this going forward if we can eliminate additional wells we do so in the model we try to accurately reflect the actual use of the bill and this is just what we call heat now this is every week of the year the color intensity scale there is just the the amount of occupancy  the building at any given time so this is the summer where there's less occupancy this reddish our band is the middle of the day during the school year where we have the full school school occupancy this is just a way additional izing what the occupancy is of the school throughout the year and you know even here where it's blue it's it's not it's not zero it's too late blues there are people in the building just in this building all throughout the year it's a very heavily occupied building which contributes to the amount of energy use required for the course of the year this just happened to be something we were showing you know that bill referred to that there are extended classroom use of spaces in the building that get very h quote these are some of the input values that we've been using based on the design of the amount of insulation in the walls busy the amount of the solution the roof the window to wall ratio rate now to the entire building there's twenty three percent window compared to excessive energy loss record to get the current more system being used is a very good performing kirkwall system so overall the school has a high performance building now but it's better than what you would get if you just built to the to the minimum requirement because the other thing because of the model or things like what what is the thermostat set right now we've got to call it set fire to get used to being at seventy degrees and at night in the winter time we set that temperature back to sitting feature in addition to that the system problem are primarily used in the classrooms as a chill beam system a very low energy efficient system energy recovery is use wherever possible to have control of inhalation that is where the amount of ventilation or outsider being brought into the building varies based on the occupancy of the building and the need for ventilation so if there are only three people in a classroom the classroom won't be ventilated as if there were thirty people will be ventilated as needed for those three people and that's going to vary over the course of the day here the lighting system of the building that's using all the lighting very efficient right now we're estimating that the amount of lighting energy installed that's the leading power density is going to be about point forty five dollars watts per square foot that's a very low number it's below what the code requires so it's a significant fission very efficient system and in addition to that installed capacity it's going to be controlled so that's going to dim based on the late i can see sensors and they've see sensors will turn lights on when people leave the room and make sure that only the amount of labor acquired is on to any given time to serve the needs of the occupants trying to have the building that have weights on where no one's there were also modeling some of the important features of the plumbing system namely the geothermal heat pump is being proposed through pool heating so that will further improve the efficiency of the systems so as i mentioned we're at a point where we're taking a snapshot and providing the status of that we still have work to do on that we have to go back and make sure that the  engineering exercise the team going through right now is going to impact to the future model so we will have to capture all of the changes that are going to occur to the design to make sure they get that the model gets updated accordingly there also may be some aspects of how you injury you're going to model to see what the impact on the mechanical system still requires from design refinement we're at the end of the day there's still a lot of engineering to be done on the systems so we know that there's still some work to do the engineers have to have ahead of them in terms of fine tuning the sizing the systems what we expect is that the mechanical system energy required is going to come down as we get closer to the end of the design as the design gets further refined the amount of  has to be delivered is going to be calculated more closely the amount of horsepower for fans it's going to be comfortable close to expect those numbers are going to come down in the next couple of generations as well as well the latest design as it gets now the other side of the net zero question that was the energy use part of the equation the other side of the equation is how much energy can we harvest on site right now we've been tasked with looking at how much renewable energy we generate from the but currently we are trying to optimize and maximize the roof areas as much as possible to locate solar panels to to generate renewable energy from the building's roof you'll notice there are some roof areas that don't have any p v mainly  a new school we're proposing to use a very simple system which is called a self balanced it system it means it just sits on top of the roof you build your roof you put down your work of membrane and then you add this on top of it you don't have to screw it in the most amount of people for the given roof area so we get the most amount of renewable energy per the per the amount of roof area that we have to work  with the panels this isn't just an example of a typical solar panel they come come out the field they have connections for the wiring already they just get these change against like a plug and play kind of operation all they get  lurching generation based on all the different areas of the roof and then your contribution to the to the and your energy renewable energy harvesting the main route which is that long roof area is generating most of the we go through the next several iterations this number up here is going to come down our challenge is going to be make sure that we retain as much of the renewable energy generation where the energy generation potential as possible so that we can keep this number at least thirty five percent and hopefully get it to go up and there are ways to address the shortfall you today where the future of right now we're being very conservative about how much space we leave between the p v array and the edge of the roof we can actually extend that a little bit more and take up more of the roof area  there are reasons why i wouldn't want to do that in terms of bits but it is possible to add additional panels on the roof we might be able to look at a what's called a thin film product which is a very basically flexible  parking lot canopies i think would be great to have one of these which is a dual axis tracker maybe a couple of those because the neat thing about those is that they have they follow the sun through the day to be a very visible representation of what's going on at the school the ability to make electricity from the sun and how that works by following the sun room through the day they're also might be off say opportunities going to be unique opportunities in belmont is  that because you have your own electric utility you can actually think in terms of not just the school roof not just the school sleep you can think of your entire community and while today perhaps that's not going to get you where you want to go by thinking that way  as to clean up and looking at opportunities throughout belmont i think it's an opportunity to to further your goal of being we're also going to be looking at how we can reduce that the amount of energy used in the st place a lot of that's going to come through the the further development of the designs that's going to happen in the next several months and one of the things that the engineers are  to be looking at is can they reduce the amount of to the airflow that they have to transport around the building and can they optimize amount of energy it takes to transfer that that that here so as they sharpen their pencil so to speak and start doing more pump there's also in the operational pool one of the biggest energy users there is make up water so you know looking at how to optimize that through operations and cleaning and so forth is it is a good way to improve when the systems in the building gets completed that's what's called commissioning commissioning is testing systems to ensure that they operate as intended and that they meet the owner's design objectives but it can be much more than that because in commissioning after occupancy which is called post occupancy there's an opportunity to really start to understand how the school is functioning how the systems are operating relative to the to the actual school groups and fine tune that operation to save for the record this is an example from an ok school right next door in cambridge and one thing to see here is this is that  done some further calculations updating the energy model based on things that happen in construction and it could come down somewhat below thirty two but in the st couple years of operation they further reduced the actual energy use significantly and for the last year that i have information in two thousand and eighteen the actual energy intensity was down to twenty four so that's a significant change from where they started that's a twenty percent less energy so this is a real opportunity and it's important to know that you know the design team and the energy model predicts actual predicts energy use but the actual energy use is going to be up to the people who use the building and people run and operate the building and it's important to recognize there's an opportunity to continue to pay attention to energy use of the building after the building is occupied the building will have a significant number of that you don't have in your car facilities you'll be able to understand how energy being used where it's being used what time is being used and by looking at that carefully start to make adjustments that can impact the overall energy use of the building in a positive way to your well and i think that i'm hoping that with everything i've heard about what's already happening in belmont that that the students and the teachers and the parents and the families that don't want to get really excited about the potential start to impact the energy use of the high school once it's built by paying attention and really trying to do their best to reduce the you know i think that you know our it's our attempt to provide the tools for that to happen  think that there is likely that you know people will get excited about it particularly in this town that there's a lot of momentum behind it and the potential is there to have a major impact on this use of the school the amount of energy uses as you approach the building and how we are used to building and and this is a learning environment and a little piece just what we want to do to be better i think there's a lot of opportunities we're a couple of terms chill being it's not something who is a matter of fact it's been used for quite some time  that look at the carbon dioxide in the wrong it looks at people not people it's measuring the the needs in the room it's balancing the system output to the needs of the room i want to i want to comment on occupancy sensors because we've actually gotten smarter about that so most spaces in the school have not have occupancy sensors the vacancy center the idea being that you consciously have to decide to turn the lights off if you do decide to turn the lights on don't turn off automatically when you leave the room but they're not going to turn on automatically you have to decide you need the lights and that that change is a significant one in terms of that's so wrapped up in this when you go home you go in turn all your lights out but in fact a lot of times we go into our office building or for a school st we do a starter and so it's it had to change which is the start of turning on if you need or as we leave the room it will turn off all the plugs so the idea of having things run overnight to do actually an opportunity to dig deep into the building of designing the building i should say category by category system by system and reexamine what you're doing why are you doing it and because read design develop we have actual lives for that based on the drive and we're really examining it asking ourselves and reaffirming the decisions you made her changing decisions because we're better for and so on after the cleaning last night broke this you know so the concept for a lot of people that used a lot in the design building industry even if you were an budget spotter under value engineering has value to the project that's why it's called up and she writes i do think that value engineering does a way better job to force the design team  d the owners to explore each item and discuss the best way to do it for the project so that's what belmont is doing now through week and probably into next week a little when we're done we'll have better project we'll have a system that will get built they operate as well as they're ever going to operate within the st year and then the operation degrades over time because people are paying attention to it so you'll have the opportunity here because there will be an extensive metering system there will be a way of accessing that information in real time there will be the opportunity to really pay attention to it the green it into the curriculum you'll have an opportunity to have a lot of people paying attention to that and because of that you have an opportunity to do this but it does take diligence and vigilance so i think every single building built has an opportunity to do this what doesn't happen is people don't pay attention so that's really one of the biggest impacts that the occupants can have is focusing that attention and some of it does require professional attention but there is plenty that i mean if you crowd sourced for instance looking at all the meter data to the students and said we're looking for patterns what's the pattern here is there energy is the meter showing through the energy being used in the cafeteria you know on a regular basis after hours that wasn't there a month ago what happened what did they do in the cafeteria this month that they didn't do last month let's go find out there's an opportunity to continually monitor and improve the performance and i think that you know it's really this world to do a lot about things like the t v or internet of things and want to say that this building will be the internet of things there will be a lot of data available and sifting through that data looking for the patterns figuring out how to leverage that is actually a good lesson for students to learn and to have experience so you know there's an opportunity i think that's one of the one of the greatest things about this project is there is an opportunity there's an opportunity for things like that there's an opportunity at some day to make this a fully minutes or a bill there are ways to do that on the site and elsewhere so regardless of where you are at the at the beginning point of  occupancy what i would encourage everyone to don't want to look at that is not the end of the process but really just the beginning of the journey for you to really start to learn more about energy use the implications of your behavior and to work as a community to on the rd floor teachers science classes to go out and maybe plug in and watch with that though so there are definitely teaching moments from within not just the information that rob was talking about but this is a technology that's that had anything to do with energy savings and if so how much or is that just looks and so what is a reader of the group is not just color green on the drawings but it actually was a growing portion of the roof right and it was an opportunity to consider so that was the discussion and that's why it went to more people by one is a very likely opportunity to reduce costs so we we can reprogram that and my nd question so i hear what you're saying that out if we are taking the solar panels out of the budget well that doesn't mean you're not going on the building but that will just come later hopefully that's something i've been thinking about and i think you probably know more about this than i do but when the wellington was valid there was originally supposed to be solar panels on the wellington those were also taken budget that's what a lot of people already do you will survive but that has never come out of what i say what i said was that the funding of the solar panels will be in a different category within the total project budget different but we are buying this project in two thousand and twenty two at that point all of the project funds are or are already allocated so whether we have in construction budget or potentially budget it's million dollars contains tax and we can't we can't do anything about it but in fact we can keep the entire project as it is unchanged and it doesn't change i think it doesn't change our buying it doesn't change how we're funding it because it's al i was on the wellington building committee and i would never remember having voted in the building what i remember is that the building was designed with opportunities to place both face with conduit ran down to the basement pathways to bring  and with a capacity on the roof to put it on and the roofs were left open and unobstructed put on but i don't ever remember having a discussion of the billionaire you saying that it was going to place and purchase the photo if that's the difference of the high school building committee we are purchasing and placing we become owners but that wasn't there so this was this roof is full of paper and that's the way the building can be always played well you know over the years there's  been attempts to get it up but it wasn't by the building committee so if we get to the end stage then we only have a six percent contingency so excited about it and you know that some people feel that that's not enough  thousand and twenty next year after we buy the whole job and find out that because of all sorts of things that we've used up our construction budget so we're are not equally with the total tax going to buy in a different budget and so it's all within the two hundred and ninety five million dollars and i may be confusing you and i'm sort of if i am but it is really the simple that the folks that takes a part of the project we're funding them through the point but i guess i'll just lastly might be happy to talk with you after this because i think there's other agenda items on here but i reassure you that this is not a normal process this is a fairly normal process that you wait till the end to buy the the dollars that are available at that point when you're about to purchase them may not be the dollars to park that were part of the base budget they're part of the whole budget but they work the original budget so it's it's really based on the timing of when they get purchased and what dollars you're you're using at that point but that is the standard practice and there's a good reason for it because of the cost savings and the officials taking yeah i think you know and i totally understand that and i guess so it's very like wait whether or not that roof could handle what i don't know and i guess the other the other point is that this is a long term investment this building and it's going to be around hopefully a long long time five hundred and seven thousand five hundred years all of the things that we were focused on in terms of the building on the lower the amount of glass in the building those are the most important things because they're going to be with the building for its life for the lighting system that i talked about that's going to be replaced faster than almost anything else mechanical system i talked about that's going to be replaced multiple times during this building in the  is going to get replaced over the building so we start with focusing on the bones you know the basic building block is the bones of building the building up a little the man windows and glass and make sure that that's as good as possible years from now so i think you know you're starting with a very efficient building that has a lot of teacher capability you will have great capability day one but you will always have the capability to do more throughout regional savings were question for we are unique opportunity we're taxpayers raters ok so where's the best place for us to spend money and our chris roy is has a whole plan of finding other ways to harvest solar energy and the idea of creating solar canopies over parking area is a good idea but there's more efficient places to consider that within the town belmont then the narrow one lane parking strips that we go out of because the infrastructure will become a lot more costly per square foot if you look at say belmont center parking lot which is much broader a large scale and that probably will yield a lot more bang for the for the bellhops so we have a collective discussion i got about this with john this is a project with many conversations with many people far reaching just to school and we look at this holistically and that's a very interesting discussion if you continue with with that is we're is the best place for us to spend our money taxpayer very paper to achieve that and as rob said we might be able to pull that into a discussion that says word zero net energy top level you know we were one hundred percent renewable within the the perimeter of the dalai lama by achieving that through other means not just on the campus using example that in the case school we were not able to get to a one hundred percent real energy generation with this project we initially started with we thought it was to be around five thousand and fifty five percent that's what we thought the energy use was going to be here now of course they brought the energies down to here with this same a raider actually austin even more energy than they thought but when we realized we were going to get to that point we started looking at what was there another place to put p v array and right across the street out of this picture is to people in towers and there's a parking garage there and we looked at putting p v on the top deck of that part of russia and thought well this of cambridge the school district in cambridge that was like taking it to a level that didn't make sense in belmont because the entire town is you know served by the town utility and you only do this together within the town to do this and if it turns out that after you've done all that that you come back and decide to put a parking lot you know p v canopies in that can be your decision down the road but i think that it is a great opportunity and the fact that you can look at we're achieving the best we can and that made with net zero qualifications but it certainly is saying that we are reducing our impact on the environment and doing the best we can to educating our students at the same time and creating a culture that reduces our impact on the environment and has made us a group you're getting the most out of your assessment we're you're going to have a building that has tremendous capability this is a demonstration of how you're taking advantage of that capability to it's full otherwise if you don't do this you need a lot of potential on the table you don't take expert and i didn't i guess i didn't say that i said those are opportunities but we have it in the project that's what you heard from me we had to do the project so and i think there's a lot of excitement about this in one way or another it  ration so those are some of the factors that go into that the other thing i would say is that you know we probably do a lot a lot of stuff in the general collins maybe like all the circulation t i would like to thank both rather for hereafter coming here to give this presentation and to develop when you said earlier that you're learning about all the city amaze me because you've been giving us so much information about this during the whole project and  atmosphere to get money for the new high school we had a group come to us and asked if we would be interested in a public private partnership those two issues came together to a time we were very interested three years ago to go down the road of a public private partnership and as me doing so we got accepted into it was b s program at that point in time the school we really wanted to slow this ball down because we wanted to be able to have a clean campus and a clean site to consider recurrently is so what are some of the options for us to be able to use the space and see what it would look like if we were able to enter into an agreement or issue an r p for folks to to to go down a partnership with the town to build  wanted to do that as a town jointly with the water cycle or the school committee and patrice and i so we could have some ideas of what could fit there and what are we actually thinking about and that's what this presentation will be about so can we still fix a softball field a baseball field in a soccer field because that's currently the design of our building committee's work if nothing happens to the grid at all so we started to play with different places of the footprint of the built so i can three begins to bring one of those potential of views of this work that in compass is of all the field space that we currently have it would like to keep as a town in a school would be one that we do consider to be providing all the different aspects needed with three different types of fields the parking in we have another option option five where we really have one sheet of ice we are able to get some good parking we do provide some tennis and we are able to keep the soccer field the baseball field in double so we bring these your go down this partnership road should we build just one sheep for ourselves and what would that mean do we have the money for that and how do we leave this land open to the building community and what's the role of the only political event with you know who does replace these fields what's that interaction between what we believe to be needs to finish the project and interact with a separate project which would be the ice free public private partnership so generally that's what this could possibly look like a i think the next step here is the stop and think about if you want to have an r p go forward what will be the timeline we've talked about that gives us a general conversation between both boards time and the trees again to talk about what that timeline could actually physically look like they have a draft version of this in your and you are right in your pocket in another large piece of this is you know exactly what pieces of the r p are important to the school department and that is mainly that we have turned ice time reputation for our high school boys and girls sparking team reflected in what the expectation would be for that ice will be forward so for example if we have enough time for our freshman j v and varsity boys and girls hockey teams that can then x amount of hours a week for the winter season we want to make sure that was part of the r p so we made sure that if we started currently have been kept that continuous or continuing in the future  meeting please take a lead to get there and i think there's a recognition that there will be a number of decisions that the school committee will have to wait you know you're ultimately decided and you want to make sure that those you're aware of in the outline and timing and if there are concerns about this time other concerns about the decision to go after you may love to try to get a sense of that now so that we can make the appropriate adjustments because the tree said we have the running construction we're already worried that we don't have enough space for the students to put words in the next two to three years so if this happens in the next two years we're taking greenspace away will make it more complicated to fulfill our obligation to our to our student athletes in our would be having truck she going on another construction program going on at the same time with that side would be a challenge i do think to do it challenges are doable i think that the outcome will wake up in five years with  part of the building project that they're in the budget they're part of the project so the question becomes when you do it are you want to flip it around and do something different in the wind up me with this in the r p d we point to fields as part of the responsibility of us for a project or do we say in the r p that you have to leave enough space so the building committee can come back in for fill its obligation of providing those fields at that point in time the grass of this a better conversation could happen right now those are grass fields in the private agreement to explore this conversation ended they could act if the answer is yes what do we want to go on the our people because that's when we start to get into the meat of the details of what it was to leave like what are we all as a school was a town get out what is  expectation for what they leave behind how much field space how much you know do we have them do some of the parking do we do that are all those things will have to be worked out in the nd step which is the process that when that r p is put out and bid has to in terms of the scope of this conversation right now and then the presentation of all these different options for the field early this is are all these configurations is that sort of information to consider for later and what we show the presentation of the people that visual and the real work that we have today is to want to move forward with the process with a rough timeline from a viewer discussing a public private partnership having the one in a time like right now we have three either baseball or softball fields on tape and this can be usefully separately i think and this looks like some of the configuration possibly only one  softball or a softball or play there you can play simultaneous games here you just can't do that over here and this would be used in the fall for field hockey soccer or other sports and it could also be used at some point in the spring whole we have the soccer the softball in the baseball my priority would be to present at our should we still try to maintain the fields and we have now in the play it will be forward so that's why i would like one like this as an example when we start to give up baseball or softball having more suited to travel off campus that would be something that i would have is a lower priority because i'd like to be able to keep these sports whole we are the last has that was a really yes i think it would probably be a community forum as well and we think again the hope here is that there is meaningful concern you can raise them now we have a community for bringing community together to talk allowing the we allow the use of the property right now for the rain so we would be allowing the use of a different parcel not so much and actual draft of the lease would happen over the summer which would then come into play all of those situations you know what would happen if the entity defaulted on the low you know all of those things would have to be worked out to go for the satisfaction of before she'd open all summer long and have it their way it's to their advantage to make it viable because they have to pay the bill and that's the that's the public private piece of it we are mixing the meters for world where we worry about these things and they happen very slow and in the private world they go pretty that we have to do it course of least a half dozen probably several more meetings the owner the owner engage their own counsel their own engineers and took a good hard look at our proposal to access   some likely legal quagmire that could be expensive and time consuming so at this point the board slapping voted last night in endlessly that we would shift the path story of the student survey but cherry middle school and how how that's going to work out for having middle school in another building as well and i'm not sure when that needs to get decided maybe not right now they will just wanted to sort of you know that sounds get used to that good story we are these are who told me that hurt there are he was released and posted on the central register the town is reaching out to different firms to encourage submissions so that f in the high school traffic working group we had a meeting