welcome to inside media weekly i'm ryan bamma and returning for yet another season on my left which would be the screens right is bastos and durban are here on the right hand side returning from their season features surprisingly the three of us as well that series will continue as we see topics as we come across topics that warrant an entire show we decided we would do this year in addition to that is start a weekly program where we could talk about all the things that are going on in film television and tech news because that kind of stuff it becomes topical and it's it's nice to be able to talk about it as quickly as possible the thing to do is let you know that our bureau is still with the station we haven't fired or she's she's going to be on i'm sure are go is that i think you have a thought of i already have one and i think well thought one things i think is interesting is that in the past used to be that all the big tech announcements used to come to these giant conferences and he be the national association broadcaster c e rebranding of these kindle lineup and then also the i phone five of course are there any gadgets anything that's exciting you that you know christmas time coming up for the holiday season i should say coming up that excites you mean i'd have to say the microsoft surface i mean it's their first introduction to the tablet world and this is kind of the one that has the innovation to it it's the it's the tablet laptop hybrid which we haven't really seen before is coming with this keyboard is going to snap off fully take away its portability i think i think is the one that really can be the groundbreaking that could really change the scale for microsoft where they can try to catch up where they used to be the big dogs and other slowly slowly falling back i guess in the popularity i mean they're still up there in sales but and this paired up with windows eight it looks at least i mean a chance to play around with it looks like they work perfectly together designed together that way and it should be it should be a force yeah i'm thinking along the same lines but the other side of this and i'm certainly not a techno geek as much as you guys are but i think so i'm freely admitting that but looking through this i thought the apple announcement was sort of a ho hum in a lot of ways so much of this was already out there and i feel like this maybe is indicative of jobs not being around the company of that leading force in the past it felt like so often even with minor updates on some products there were leaps forwards a lot of other things and in this case i didn't feel that most of that stuff was ok we've increased the resolution on this we've made this repro fact a little better but i didn't feel that giant leap forward now admittedly microsoft's playing catch up not just in the sense that they haven't been around for the last three or four years while apple's been getting this commanding control in the market but this is really a spot where microsoft in this near absence of big announcements could have a real jump in the greatest thing about that thing we watched was the stupid puppet i mean i thought that was a sterile call and everything else was making fun of the guy i mean yeah we heard about this yeah we saw those oh great this new pin interface now everyone has to invest forty five dollars more on this thing the other thing about playing catchup for microsoft what they have in their advantages they are completely new hardware devices whereas if you look at the i phone or you look at even some of the similar phones are coming out when they upgrade their model it's not necessarily the biggest changes to their hardware the normally come out with a massive software package that makes the upgrade for it whereas i phone five this time around it's updates to less are pretty much things that are already out there they're just putting the apple brand on them so this is apple's version of maps is apple's version of this versus a very weird habit it's nothing new to do think that this point well what is it is t disappointed obviously i phone five pre sales have been so apple claims through the roof but do you think it is that there is so much innovation before and now it's incremental or do you think that these leaks you know the fact that the bloggers got just about everything correctly only the only thing that they missed on was this possibility of using this n f c in your field communication chip where you know you have a chip in your phone and are able to purchase purchases by tapping a device at a store is about the only thing that they missed on that is that wired where there's disappointment do you think or is or i guess my other question is is is the i phone kind of reached its complete maturity and is apple at some point here hate to say it but are they going to abandon the i in one more iteration or something like that to go on to something else because all you're doing now is refining i mean when you look at the specs you know that i'm here but you know the difference we're talking a third of an inch taller we're talking the exact same camera the exact same h you know that with a video camera on the camcorder these are exactly the same resolution is basically the same it's bigger because the screen is as taller but there isn't that giant innovation that you feel like that wow this is a reason and what i don't understand is what is it the drawing people then to upgrade to this or is it who'll are people really i mean that's that's why people bought i phones in the past that's why people bought i pads in the past i mean i'm sitting at an in service  teachers or behind me and they're playing around with their i pads and then they put their i pad away and go to their i phone i mean it's so what are you doing i mean relax for five seconds here people i mean it is look at me i have the shiny new thing it's out there and i think that will fade when people start looking at the investment and frankly that initial investment is still pretty stagnant right around four hundred bucks two hundred dollars dollar signs on with presenters eyes i mean you're seeing those incremental upgrades on the hard drive and i mean we were even talking the other day about we still have our i pod classics that we have just because the amount of stuff we have on ours and we're dependent on it is still exceeding that maximum drive capability of that and it will catch up eventually and that's probably the point that i'm you know i well you know maybe i phones the best thing but yeah i think it's coming to a head here and i wouldn't say closing the door on it but it wouldn't be like apple  abandon something completely and turn on a no no but the apps now are becoming innovation the the software i'm installing on it is becoming what's the next new thing i mean think about p c s for example in the last five or six years you've seen a lot of monumental moves forward but until this windows eight finally drops there haven't been a lot of innovations really since almost back in ninety five they've been the thing that apple's doing that is in my opinion is hurting himself is it doesn't give you choices or options rise if i want their laptops basically only thing i can change in it is i can upgrade my harddrive and there's minor things you can do if you're on the shelf big bucks same thing with a phone the only change between the phones you have one phone for apple is going to change every year you know that but you have a way to year in between so i go to an ice cream shop you know i want to buy one chocolate ice cream too bad again for now maybe i'll give you sprinkles but i mean that's about it the huge devices that really change a thing and people are still riding that wave this is still an i phone this is still an end jones even though the newest one not so much you know it's kind of thing and they're even more so on the same point with the newest indiana jones george lucas had his hand in all the cookie jars he wasn't collaborating with a writer seeing the same thing with his i phone apple wants to control everything and a lot of times without that collaboration that your phone off there's an interesting collaboration and not collaboration of the same time you want to have some kind of supreme dictator in charge of everything i mean i can't tell you how many times i've watched a movie and seen it disassociate through committee lose any focus he made that supreme dictator like jobs has been i war had been and i don't know if they have that anymore i mean there's there is a dictator role and there's a committee role important but that's a risk i was in like what's what's the what's the point just sticking with their philosophy on maps what is the point of challenging google the no fence kids the people who are gosh new i phone need to buy it kind of folks they're going to jump on and still keep buying it until it gets to a point where they say the six hundred dollars i just spent on this thing and what i get out of this map system the same you're even talking about whether this is going to they're slowly fading off something somewhere the i phone do you think that's a possibility when you see everybody else's phones getting bigger and bigger towards a tablet and then we have rumors of a tablet admit you know and to me and i think we talked about this a little bit last year to me the i pod was a necessary revolution i think i tunes was a huge huge thing the i pad is certainly not a revolution of any kind it's you know an apple still trying to fight that this is only a consumption based and you know i don't see a lot of people using an i pad to do work to do productive stuff like you see with a laptop and that's what they are trying to sell it as what they're trying to push towards but to me the i phone  know what music do if you had a music player all these individual players and apple was and it was it was going to say hey you're going to carry this thing around with you and so i'm wondering if that giant leap there has made everything since then seem like it's not as big of a deal because that huge first step and you know between the four in the four s to introduce siri which a lot of people are already kind of claiming is not of it's a failure in apple's eyes it's not catching on like they thought it would new give it a new name and reconfigure in such a way that they can kind of restart that again even if it's you know the i phone name i was he has a a big market share it has a big identity to it i think sometimes it gets overstated a little bit because of where we are you go outside of peter's township and you know and and he had a knack my daughter's friends all have i phones she doesn't have a phone with me but what i'm saying is you go be you know beyond that sphere i mean apple still only sixteen percent or something of the phone market i mean it's it's relatively small in comparison to these other there's other phones but the differences for the other phones people aren't necessarily known gee i really need the new kid and or the really knew what they're saying what's the free phone what's the cheap phone what's the one i can call on if you're buying a phone if you're investing in that market apparently my guess is most people are buying an i phone and shortly thereafter you got a lot of people buying a droid after that what comes free no one's out there going oh gosh where's the new samsung phone i can't wait so i can wait in line for it as much irene kids talk about ecosystem and i always kind of mocked the apple he go system saying that it's not really a race and says you know everything's great works together but i saw it more as kind of you're trapped in it and that's exactly how i feel about google is you know i'm excited about the surface too but to think about you know right now i'm using g mail you know our show notes here on google drive know these devices now yeah they're giving them basically to you to say hey you know you're already using all of our our software that makes sense for you do you us and then of course the google play store just like the kindle is the basically just aga that's that is a device frankly i have no problem giving to my daughter well i think it's a great device that i can monitor through have that kind of access and also watch what she's into or onto i mean now you know she's ten we've got a regular kindle for books she wants that stupid thing i mean she eats it walks around with it takes on vacation reads and it's just the books and this is for me it's that in the bottom area now we have an i pad at the house and the demand for the i pad is much stronger it does a lot more there's a lot more interface it's not the kids i think it serves in the ship finds that spot that one i think it's a great device for people who are not a technically inclined i think it's device that you know that a certain segment of population would go to as opposed to would never even consider an i pad or even a good seven let's face it a lot of these interfaces are for people who are not super technically inclined and i say all the time my greatest love of apple is i can't mess it up i mean my ability to fiddle around on my computer and really make it a dinosaur just through my inane pestering with stuff is dangerous  a huge change for a business to make well and to retrain people how to use it you have a lot of people in the business world that didn't grow up with the same technology that someone like myself might have had whereas i'm learning how to type on a computer in kindergarten well it's two different backlashes you've got a business world looking at the cool factor of i pads and everyone holding onto one and thinking oh people are starting to use the is in business now we need something else to compete with that we're going to lose that market like it's like having i a watch you have a rolex you both tell the time right but one says something about you versus my little time rights are going to hear just like they have you go to certain restaurants they have their their wine lists or their menus on an i pad that's a little bit overkill but that's saying something about the right thing twenty years ago with you know giant tasseled ropes hanging down from things like you just put it on a piece of cardboard and rest the upgrade of the feeling of it keep she this is on this this is this must be a worthwhile eighty five dollars bottle of wine season as to what movie would be the highest grossing of the two no no it was what general view would be the high end ok i was grossing in the summer there were three people in the group that batman what what is it on think you know it's interesting to me because i think batman has the name value much much higher than the ranters yes but obviously this is a quality movie it was a time oh summer that came out you have a whole bunch of things there at the time of the summer which was smart and they they monopolize that plus the advance marketing and putting everything together but i think the thing they did brilliantly well was they really and this is impossible listen to comic book nerds and made them find bowl i mean if you look at the bill behind that something like the hole that was a disaster two times twice now with two totally different takes on it i think it is specially with lee someone who could have made a film that was brilliant and change that character made him into the best part of a whole by the way who stinks as a character the whole is it is boring is boring but a part of that huge mess and captain america very good and thor pretty good and iron man excellent you throw two other characters in there now you've got a blockbuster i mean millions upon millions of movies you put one big name in there robert downey jr bunch of all or smaller name films and suddenly got a film that is a gargantuan mammoth of a killing in box office just destroying pos on top of that the story's really good i can buy that light hearted to any chance seen the first drudge dredd film i did yeah well it's i think it's funny that we've now you know there was a redo of total recall and i was a redo of judge dredd  make for a while we were remaking seventies and eighties i guess we've all seen now move to the ninety's movies that either well total recall was relatively successful the first go around very judge dredd not so it's terrible  funny looking at the movies that are coming out this but if somebody tells you in the summer because there's no competition it's you've got the action movie and read three d you've got the thriller an end of watch you've got the horror movie house at the end of the street you've got the drama was trouble with the curve which i i that's coming out and some teen movie perks of being a wallflower they've heard that that's also i mean released this summer or this this weekend it's the end of summer as i  it's summer anymore i don't we're definitely into that when school starts that's when you kind of end is that movies that weren't good enough to make it in the summer release time before the holidays come august was originally slated for a summer film wasn't a belief and then they push was a terrible idea oh it would happen while they were also gotten and they were also fighting between that being an r and p g thirteen and one point was going to be an r and then it would which would have the ability rate of the movie because it's directly directed completely teens but i also think that you guys read the book and it's good it was not my favorite book my wife loved it she course went to school with a guy like knows him i think it would have been better as an r rated film and young stars in perks of being a wallflower versus having the no name is doing i don't know i wouldn't call them all stars i mean i'm a lot and recognizable emma watson is a star but the other two 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