rezone nor take any action that could be considered rezoning applications need to meet a number of crucial tests in order to be granted those of you who are here and have already answered those questions on your application or be going through them again tonight there is a procedure guide available we ask that you come to the microphone to speak and that when you do so you state your name and your address we typically hear the applicant first followed by anyone supporting the application and then we hear the people in opposition to it will then close the public hearing and deliberate you're welcome to stay for the deliberations there is no opportunity for further public comment however during our deliberations if you like not to stay you may call city hall after eight thirty tomorrow morning to learn the results i think that's my preamble so let's have the first half and please ninety two east twenty misty and over here so i can use the document camera for a public hearing was held on july seventh of this year where the dangerous structures hearing officer declared the property at ninety two east twenty second street a dangerous structure he ordered the single family home to be repaired and or before july twenty second the repairs include tear off and replace the roof paint all exterior wood window and door frames paint all other extra or wo surfaces that have loose or peeling paint inspections have been conducted and no work has begun and at this time i will show a couple of photographs in this picture it's kind of hard to see there's you can see the deteriorated roof on the front porch and that picture there's another picture of the back of the roof and the deterioration here's one of the window frames that needs to be repainted both the exterior storm and the interior window frame and then you can see another one on the side and then the deterioration on the back of the roof and the peeling paint and this door as of today's date the owner has taken no action to make these repairs the property has been violent in violation of diversity of how and ordinance codes since two thousand and twelve and at this time the board of appeals has the authority to up hold deny or modify the order of the dangerous structures hearing officer if the board chooses to uphold the order and require the work be done the michigan state law requires the property owner be granted sixty days to have the work completed if the owner fails to complete the work within this timeframe the city has the authority to put the repair work out for bed and hire the lowest responsible contractor to complete the repairs all associated repair costs and administrative fees will be passed along to the property owner unpaid bills are placed on the property taxes and this time city staff would request the board of appeals to up hold the dangerous structures hearing officer to have this property repaired could and he want to speak in opposition ok seen donald go ahead and close the public hearing what's the pleasure of the board e thirty two east thirty seventh street sixteen point sixteen point sixteen z staff request that the board of appeals up hold decision of this dangerous structures officer this property is somewhat similar to the previous one a public hearing was held on july seventh two thousand and sixteen where the dangerous structures hearing officer declared the property at one thirty two east thirty seven street a dangerous structure this one we ordered the single family home in detached garage be demolished an hour before july twenty second inspections have been conducted and no work has begun no permit applications have been received for the work this is a picture of the single family home in the detached garage from the front of the property this is a picture from the rear and you can see this roof line is saying we obtained it in ministry of search warrant to go on the interior of the property to determine the structural damage and if it needed to be torn down or if it could be salvaged it's another property photo picture of the another picture of the deteriorated girl here some photos of the interior of the structure the roof is caving in and the rear wall is collapsing basically we have been in contact with the owner she has moved out of the property she's not been living there for approximately a year and a half she has taken no action to have these repairs fixed and it's my understanding she's not planning on doing anything so we have been approached by the neighbors the neighbors really would like to see this house torn down and the interior of the structure is also filled with personal and household materials rotting garbage and food throughout the entire home we also found that the basement was also filled with material creating a fire hazard around the water heater and the furnace and we did also find a broken water lines in the basement because the home was not properly w arised so there is additional water damage in the basement from broken water lines so at this time the city of holland is requesting that the board of appeals uphold the dangerous structures hearing officer to demolish the property the board has the authority to up hold deny or modify the order of the hearing officer if the board chooses to uphold the order the state law requires the property owner be granted sixty days to complete the work on their own if the homeowner does not complete the work the city will put the project out for bids to the lowest responsible contractor have the work completed and pass the project cost along to the property owner an to the building department at the city of holland their concern is that the roof might not live through another snow load and we're concerned that the building is in imminent danger of collapse if we get a lot of snow this year so we'd like to the one here in support of this topic anyone here to speak in opposition motion approved in one fifty six west eleventh street sixteen point twenty two z christie pretty is requesting a special exception to construct a fence at one fifty six west eleventh street to propose fence would would have a height of eight feet where maximum is allowed where the maximum allowed is six feet the fence would be located in the historic district in is required to have a certificate of appropriateness and meet other conditions for the board to approve this request thirty nine dash twenty five f do we have someone here to speak to the we have anyone here to speak in favor of the application anyone to speak in opposition to the application  what's the pleasure that i thought we have somebody here to talk to this one of making sure that they meet the building fire safety and other ethical codes correctly that is correct all right so they are looking for offense in their backyard do we feel that that would have an impact on adjoining properties that would want to have the hear talk about does is there any information about the kind of fence that they're proposing the design of the fence as it is compatible with anything incompatible with anybody compatibility was reviewed at the time of the certificate of appropriateness so we've taken the word of the historic district commission regarding that i've got a motion by van antwerp support by libby for if you could do findings of fact ok well our support is based upon the fact that the certificate of appropriateness has been issued by the holland historic district commission when fifty six west thirty second thirty seventh street sixteen point twenty three z jeans and kathy hackman are requesting especially exception to create a short term rental unit at their home at one fifty six western seven th thirty nine dash four or five point one we have anyone here to speak to this application right here graduations are the first of the night enough just to let you know we do need to be unanimous here today we've only got four people on the board so normally we'd give you an option to postpone this ok to next month to try and get a more complete board but right now we've only got four people on the board how many would there normally be there's normally six people so you know being a city hall and resident if you ever want to be to be on the board i'm sure we're taking  i'm the reason i'm going to be encouraging that and this is for everybody out here tonight we've only got six people currently sitting on this board and so i don't know when we're going to have more than could i get my wife to join me so for tonight think the primary reason is a single vote means it doesn't pass whereby the percentages and odds of having a full board you don't need to have all four yes folks so i've got to try to anticipate or try to figure out where you folks are on this issue before i even speak up go go ahead and make your pitch ok to make it basically we've lived in this house for forty three years several years ago we fixed up the basement for several years we had it was kind of a ministry we had people staying there it's a beautiful bedroom living room and bathroom and for about the last two or three years it's been vacant we've had people staying there for as little as a few days and for as long as two years again kind of a ministry for people that needed a place to live well in recent years about last year my wife and i took a trip out to quebec and somebody introduced us to the concept of air b n b and we would love to we had some wonderful experiences with it and  so we decided this year to to list our place on air b n b started that in april and all of a sudden about may we hear some rumblings that the city is starting to talk about regulating it and we've had a wonderful experience at home doing it we've had wonderful people staying and so we want to follow all the rules and do whatever necessary to to to get your approval to continue doing this  our neighbors are in favor we none you know they all know there's a hearing here and none of them have come that i can see to to speak against it and so we've jumped through all the hoops we've spent  e money in doing it and and we want to continue and i guess that's our pledge all right so i got a couple questions for you do you live in the house yes ok whenever we are gone  there at least one parking spot on your lot other than the one that you park your car in that they can use we have we have a driveway we have two cars in our grudge the guest parked behind one of them which hardly ever get you ok and if we do need to use it we knock the door on the door were guests and have them move so we can get out so yeah ok are fine with registering the short term rental with the city and agree to post proof of registration on all your application or on all your advertise yes ok my understanding of the numbers something that you put in the corner sir anyone else to speak in favor of this application anybody to speak in opposition to this application ok seeing none i'll close the public residential it's their homestead their intend to get a public lodging license they do not have any other rental interest within city limits they have they meet the independent accessible parking requirement is in the one for themselves and one also for the short term renter and they intend to register with the city and post the proof of registration for all advertisements or at least figured out and they have and have submitted their appropriate surance for the homeowners insurance also covering  the rental so this would be the conditional on the painting  one airport court sixteen point twenty four aziz slocum investments in cal prinz are requesting a special use approval to locate a business that has a mineral stockpile that refines and stockpiles petroleum in his resource recovery facility at the property located it sixty seven hundred sixty one airport court thirty nine dash eighty two seven fourteen and eighteen do we have someone here to speak to this this investment company that's looking at doing this in the company that's doing this for several years on projects all over the united states the reason that i talked them into coming into holland is several reasons one is a strong commitment by the industry to landfill free of possible as long as well as the government hoping to be landfill free in this area there is a large availability of biomass which we would need in this area and the close proximity of where shore recycling we need the recycling center that takes in the project or for the biomass and provide some processing to it before we would have it and all three of those are here  that today goes into landfill around two hundred ton per day would be coming to us and it will be coming to us after he's processed it he's taken it through separation of materials and then sized it for what we need then it would be transported from west shore to our facility on the airport court once it gets to our facility it would go inside we need to keep it dry we'd like  processed through that a team of fifty people and initially i said you know so while we're well we're going through this here if you don't so you're going to get into hundred tons a day you said you'd need a day and a half on on hand so we're talking and somewhere between weekends and things like that so we can keep producing this is a twenty four hour day seven day week process once we start we would have be looking for fifty new employees initially and i tell you that's the number one concern of the  company we're going to find fifty people we're going to need operators chemical engineers and then production personnel management we would also all be producing or need storage for twenty thousand gallons of the high grade diesel fuel that would be producing the diesel fuel be taken off site every day so we would be producing  in the neighborhood of twenty thousand gallons of diesel fuel per day as we said as we ramp up this process not only produces diesel fuel but it also generating most of our own power takes a tremendous amount of power to do it where we're talking about doing we would be buying some from the city but we because seeing a lot of that ourselves that also produces wood vinegar which is used for food process and then goes into the larger tanks than it's it's to transport off the property to help me understand here how big is a forty thousand gallon storage tank and it's actually i get pictures actually it's in those would be covered tanks above ground tanks like a person to a lot of the tanks you see another large ok and though this would require a d q permit which would be applying for the these are forty thousand gallons each no no this is total forty thousand ok grade green diesel fuel which we already have contracts if we want to take them with a couple of large truck trucking companies as well as some of the large truck stops that will take all we can get they like to blend it with the other burn and would burn through the through the system we would also be storing some natural gas or synthetic gas onsite that's for them but we're generation of electric so if it's approved to do this and will go on to the d q and ok you mentioned earlier that being coming biomass you need to keep dry and all that so your entire operation is going to be indoors it is everything is inside right  and then based on your energy usage and then i'm presuming we get some sort of combustion process or that that reduces it to diesel fuel or it is not the combustion process  diesel fuel and you have a bio char that comes out out of one side and then the the diesel and gas is coming out of the top and then the water comes out of it also so ok there's no there's no exhaust fans on  finished there's nothing goes to the landfill of the two hundred twenty ton and that two hundred twenty ton to go to the landfill so you say that separated at chef container yeah they would take in there the book which aerials and they w separate it in size for us we need it sized to a certain size using probably the presumption is you know the probate agreements and everything in place for them yes so yes you said the flare but it will only be used in the event that the generators are shut down because you intend to use that for electricity generation on premises correct how bigger is the the and the flare coming out of the top of it when it's burning it's probably two feet high to three feet high and it's only because we want to keep the gas so i'm sure we're either burning it in the generators or restoring i'm sure it was only when you shut the the system surrounding properties any odor hazard or it shouldn't no you know it's basically the same as the power plants that are building downtown so if there is actually the if you just let site to the surrounding properties is there anything that you can identify as a negative byproduct of your process that could affect neighboring properties no nothing no heat  separated at chef is then transported to this property correct you only go to a proprietary process right is the biomass sealed in a container the entire time is it it means it goes into a fifty five to ok and it comes up when a bio mass is basically a lot of it's wood today there's you know hundreds of thousands of tons of wood going into landfill every day a lot of it would start would be wood and we want pieces that are in the the two inch talking your input my important bet say ask the question you can keep suggesting that wood in grass clippings is that going to be the primary source are we talking compost type material no no know heat hazards to the neighboring properties you know so there is you know there's some high heat inside the chambers but that you can walk right next to the chamber certainly don't so you're in operation that and i walk by on the sidewalk how my going to know this from an office building probably the trucks and coming and going the extra the building will look just like fact we have a shared driveway to the north so on the south is a freeway cut in there's a berm there now and we would push the berm actually closer to the freeway so it's right up against the freeway and it's vacant to the to the east and to the west there's a plant which quite a ways away and that's i'm not sure the name of it now that's  one of the new plans or any hazardous chemicals in your proprietary process that we need to be aware of known fact any toxins that come in on  byproduct gets used chipped off has a right the only thing that is the water because we end up with a fair amount of water some of it becomes wood vinegar but then there's a portion of it that's just ok so that would be tied into the city sewer and that would be tied to city sewer and i've been talking to them about that ok and the amounts and so on you know if they regulate those kind of special commercial times i'm sure they do dan'l work with them to  work i do you know just starting at the beginning sure you know the conditions that need to be true which one of the nineteen allowed special uses us for more than one way it's it's  it's a mineral stockpile it's petroleum refining and box storage in resource recovery it's seven fourteen and he team so what are you stockpiling  bases so yeah it's just it keeps moving it's not like it's piled up and can be used when are we going to use it so it's a continuous move so that means you fill it in and it just keeps keeps moving or you have to wait for one process to finish  construction half of those in the united states half of them are outside the united states where the fact one of the people from p p i was going to be here tonight he's in washington d c because there's a lot of third world nations i want to use  once one thing they've got you know plenty of growth to run through a system like this to create the fuel but also helps them with the water because it produces a fair amount of water and it can be it doesn't take a lot to bring the water back to a potable content so you can use it for drinking water so with these other facilities are there any known issues that have occurred either with the d e q city  city ordinances or anything that you're aware then that they haven't had a problem and this group is playing to do six of these facilities in the united states and this is just  all right thank you thank you anyone else to speak in support of this application local kevin phillips permit to a company where the neighbor one thirty six west thirty six street so are sixty four streets or we are just to the north side one thirty six west sixty four our business is located like i say just directly north of the proposed site and after reading through a few things and listening to a few  things a couple questions that i haven't couple couple concerns home i looked at the site plan and the site plans shows nothing outdoors yet he asked for storage of these so feel on the outside talks of storage of the hydrogen which are in the natural gas synthetic natural gas i don't see anything you know provisions for that some of the other things his site plan shows everything coming in from the north side with the biomass receiving storage on the north right next to our  driveway which has an easement for them but he's just said that everything was coming in from the south but the site plan shows everything on the norse at it and of i'm missing something there or it is not correct so it's a little bit of a concern to me i find it hard to believe that they can bring in two hundred tons a day and not have waste coming out of the trucks i find hard to believe that there won't be a smile coming from waste the term biomass is is pretty generic it can be the waste from our of the waste water treatment any organic matter so my hopes would be why they tell us today they are going to be using so i just which ips that this isn't a carte block for anything that they like to do you know i find it hard i don't understand the mineral storage i don't never heard mineral used anywhere i don't know where what that portion of it is which is you know seven if they're not going to stockpile anything what isn't it just their raw products coming in and there are finished goods leaving what is the what do they need to stockpile it we assume that there could be a mound if we give them that variance to have two hundred foot mound of something outside  the petroleum being stored outdoors next to our facility that is troubling but i think it's just seems there's quite a few in can   so i guess i we at paramount tool are definitely worried about the noise the smell i guess if you give them the the reclamation the number eighteen could we assume that they could do the same thing as west michigan or chef does is that they could do that same purpose there or is this a lower scope so if we give them that variance they can do whatever they would like in the future and the variance of that is specific to the application for what their plight for ok and so they what is it this would be for the energy generation you know that it would not be for another chef container but if they have transitive but if they had to do that if they wanted to bring that in raw or not have chefs do it they could still do it by giving him that variance because you've said they could do that with the getting is a special use for what they're representing today ok and this does not give them carte blanche the mineral stockpile was something i don't think that they necessarily were going to check it was something we were trying to cover all the bases so we didn't go back and inj applying for only allows them to really do what they said here and if there's any additional situations where you have problems with small vibration radiation kind of things those have to be investigated and if they means the process of taking a product and reusing it yeah i think i asked him i think that was the forty foot wide by a hundred right long internal storage that would in essence be the feed into the au points in there and as much as the low moisture content that i believe if we take at face value their technical representation representation would pull out a ton of the type of o facility well that's not what they asked we can condition that but that's the hardest part of our dialogue yeah exactly so if they say they're not going to do it and i'm concerned about it and i would see some other people are concerned about odor from w condition would be you can never bring what in there sure what we're concerned about all of these liberation noise odor in there really comes down to the thresholds of smell and radiation and all i mean all all that stuff that's the threshold we really don't have the technical expertise to say what is low medium and high very moist your biomass but we do have the ability to determine if you call and say hey there's terrible smell coming from there we can all identify that particular thing is a nuisance in the city that's what this is based on this with this this we brought them here to say if any of these conditions happen you know there's your special use y lot difficult more difficult to get rid of stop something that's hard i understand that's to hurt and i know and it's hard every time you smell heintz to say is that ad or is it just different well i mean it's there are some really hard there's really hard criteria to create criteria for smell noise at what point is a noise a nuisance and when it's not because every industrial business including your own create noise  i'd agree with everything every all do something or it would just be a piece of dirt right right yeah right in industrial especially i mean you are you have equipment i mean you have a lot of scenes in there and everything else so i mean plan yes in what way does that specifically impact your property is that is that traffic most definitely it's coming down ours or are your driveway in your to the north right i'm to the north if they are bringing all their biomass to the south i guess that's less impactive to me but it's certainly if it's coming in my driveway and their doors are open and they're taking so many trucks in there and dumping it there's there's going to be something there access from the south you know so has to go past you're right this is there's no f it's going they got you know there's a there is a parking lot there they have to make a driveway but i don't know what that's in there i'm just so we have the noise i believe there will be small i mean if you drive by west michigan they're small there and i can't believe it's just it's only things that have over ten percent more sure that that smell so those are my my all that comes out as a little trickle of water i'd like to see it but not next door so those are kind of some of my concerns that i have with what's going on next to us i don't want to they want to have another shut container  what west michigan next behind my building we have quite a few people that visit our facility from all different organizations and i think it be a hard sell for us to bring them in there when it's like that ok those are mine thank you very much right thank for anyone else to speak in opposition on this topic but just has been so close neighbors things like that happen you know what the what safeguards you have to have a place for an effort actually happens you know a spill happens fire or whatever you know we were very close to their building it's all a lot of it's based on the on the the amounts the capacity of these tanks their arrangement and whatnot so they will have to meet that as well and i don't want to give the presumption that we're punting on that particular issue but the technical requirements of safe proper handling stories in the health safety and welfare of the citizenry are governed by the d e q in this instance that's correct anyone else to speak in opposition  take it through there are the shared drive it is talking about only some furnished by product would go out that way which would be limited to public two trucks a day that would go off from there and then probably the fuel truck would come around the building with them you say limited will be in this area here so i've got to tell you the same shared drive you just get of you coming around the building where we will be company and the trucks are coming here to be actually in here on this site as we're once the building is naturally divided here by fire walls we'll be doing taking care of the bio char and that type of thing in this portion of the building there's a lab here this is where the level before the testing of the materials is in this area materials i know bio mass that has a higher moisture content could get more odorus so i'm just curious to know where is the fail safe if in the raw material selection verses the  they use and they and it doesn't have you know if it's in the camper center last like i can take it so there's there's some latitude there but it's still compared to most things it's very dry you don't have any kind of content analysis from chef container i mean it seems hard to me that slocum investments or want to come here unless they knew the fuel source existed and i imagine there is some sort of due diligence associated with that understanding you have anything along those lines that say hey we're this is going to be eighty percent were you know as opposed to twenty percent eggshells i don't know if you look at what goes into the landfill in this area and word comes from him out there that we're talking about and if you think about all the furniture factories that we have in this area that's that's a big source of a lot of the wood and that's why this area is attractive for production of furniture as well as the by products of comfort so out of their conversation centered around what do you have an estimate what percent of your biomass is going to be doesn't matter it's treated but  thank you for your patience for this question is highly technical process to get all they want when they first explained it to me they had a chemical engineer do it and he got about ten minutes into it was presentation and i said you m mandarin i have no idea it's they've told us exactly how they do it and how the process works so i can tell you  all right i'll go ahead and close the public hearing at this point leisure the board just a comment that gives me more comfort and going ahead with this and that is that i believe the neighbors that had some concern also said that if there was a small southern entrance into the property that there would ease their concerns for many of the things that they were talking about and with that with an amended plan which now shows or would show that they took a come to a little bit more detailed plan would probably be useful in this case because it would commit them to  a degree of specificity that we currently don't have which i think is probably pretty important in the identification of anything that's outside of that building that southern road that would bring there's another road that he was showing that currently isn't isn't on our power plant on our map right there you know like i one of the conditions could be to commit to a site playing as expressed here tonight also it seems that the mineral stockpile as you no longer a part of this process  don't know if we are move that or consider removing that i'm not quite sure how to handle something a subject of his order other than the represent a load or outside the property limits smile that gets back to that i know people hate heinz i know people i love it there that the commitment or a commitment to a level of my share of the incoming product would also probably be really important it's just something doesn't feel right about paying a percentage to you know to the biomass that doesn't so you know they've they've already said you know ok no extra storage materials oh i'd be fine putting the condition on there with the road on the south side of the building any thoughts on the the mineral part press any objections to any of these things we're talking about that's sort of where it comes up with those three know industrial district your behind their ton of the technical expertise above ground storage flammable hazardous materials transportation would like to make a motion to prove with any conditions this trip with the conditions that their site plan an execution creates a south entrance as we discussed here tank farm with the exception of the tank farm we want to put a limit on the size of the farm and we could i don't know i wouldn't know how to begin doing  seven fourteen and eighteen this use is compatible with the joint properties and it is not create a radioactive hazard it does not create a vibration hazard it does not create a noise hazard it does not create an odor hazard and it does not create a heat hazard what about a flare condition her home at one sixty seven west twenty second street thirty nine dash four zero five one a little bit the same as the other people ok i had really good experiences with being me and i found out i had to jump some hoops so i did ok fair enough do you own a car i'm sorry do you live that one sixty second yes or no do you have the public lodging license not yet ok this will be the only short term rental that you have an ownership interest o do you have at least one independently accessible parking spot for these people times yes well no objections to registering with the city and putting the registration on your advertising all i can find  ok you have home insurance that allows a short term rental i don't know any other questions from the work could you tell us about the independently accessible parking space that you have available for the renter there's a car garage and i have only one car ok fair enough and a detriment to the neighborhood that you're aware of  any other questions from the board well thank you thank you anyone else to speak in favor of th one hundred percent personal residential exemption on the city's tax excessed assessment the owner will have a public library license subject to the approval tonight it's only a short term rental that the owner has interest and it's the only short term rental that the owner has within the city limits the property has at least one independently accessible parking space that's available to the renter the owner will register the short term rental with the city and agree to process proof of registration on all adverse events for the rental and the owner will have some home insurance or does have some assurance that allows for short term rental