appearing on the consent agenda signify by saying any opposed item one will appear on the consent of the i remember two item number two a resolution calling for a public airing on october twenty fourth two thousand and eleven at seven m at council chambers room to all nine connected a city hall one zero five j street for a proposed local law to partially exempt cold water cold war veterans for the primary residence in the city of schenectady from general municipal taxes move by mr della sala secondly council member king all in favor of item two appearing on the consent agenda signify by saying i any opposed item to appear on the consent agenda number three item number three a resolution awarding consulting services to carers inc for the submission of the two thousand and eleven continuum of care funding application on behalf of the city of schenectady entertain remember for item number four resolution awarding the contract for engineering services for the assessment of damage to front street sanitation and storm sewers to m g and m j and engineering and land number eight i have number eight resolution honoring the hudson mohawk river road runners club for its charitable contribution to the city of schenectady towards the pavilion project in central park in for the twentieth anniversary of the community land trust which was held from party means we're going to take that out of order procedurally do i have to add it to the agenda to give them comfort and all those other gone on god in touch those families oh lord father we actual god to bless and to have dined way and all we did so carefully you did praise all the on the glory all design of god and we thank you for this blanchard excused mr mccarthy president we have three out of order resolutions tonight the point i would turn the floor over to council member king for presentation on the twentieth anniversary of community land trust  kathy going in comes to come forward join me and this was a resolution we actually approved at our meeting a couple of weeks ago but because of some mix ups kathy wasn't here so we just wanted to make sure we got it presented some president i will read the resolution this is a resolution recognizing the twentieth anniversary of the community land trust where as the community land trust of schenectady has been providing homeownership opportunities for low to moderate income families since  ninety one utilizing the community land trust model of homeownership and where as the community land trust to schenectady is admit democratically structured membership based community land trust working to create healthy communities through permanently affordable homeownership promoting affordable ecologically sound land use for housing and work link working landscapes by offering financial and educational support to the residents of the city of schenectady and where as community land trust is a provan dedicated and reliable partner of the city in its efforts to restore blighted and challenge communities and raise the quality of life for all residents of the city through redevelopment and provision of affordable housing to financially challenged families now therefore be it resolved that this council does pause in its deliberations to recognize and note the accomplishments of the community land trust and its many contributions to the development and redevelopment of the city of schenectady and to express the appreciation of all residents of the city for its dedicated and reliable partnership with the city on this twentieth anniversary of service to the community so mr president i believe we already voted this thank you very much on behalf of the community land trust we have always been very appreciative of the support and the partnership of the city in the endeavor to provide affordable housing thank you thank you for all the work that you do and whereas katie was named new york state teacher of the year in september of two thousand and eleven bringing more recognition to herself the school district and the city of schenectady and whereas katie is now a candidate for national teacher of the year now being there for resolved the council of the city of schenectady pass in its deliberations to probably recognize and honor katie for being selected new york state teacher of the year and be it further resolved that the council resolution stands adopted thank you so much everyone so everyone wear purple that's my favorite color i would like to thank councilman della salah as well as the members of the city council and acting mayor mccarthy for this recognition i am deeply honored to be here tonight i'm so proud to represent the city of schenectady and our great state of new york as a teacher of the year two thousand and twelve schenectady as my home now and has been since i was a child as such the community of schenectady has helped mold me into the teacher that i am today i stand here as humble proof that the educators in schenectady are indeed making a difference as an ambassador of the teachers of new york i will endeavor to represent the professionalism and dedication that new york educators hats i am fortunate to draw on a wealth of experience with such educators here in schenectady the schenectady city school district represents all that new york state teachers have to be proud of devotion expertise and exceptional and through z as in for teaching and learning it is my hope that i can represent these qualities as i see them and the teachers of schenectady and share with the rest of new york state and our country what a terrific educators and families schenectady has i feel a profound sons a privilege to have this opportunity to share with you the citizens of schenectady and with teachers all over new york state what i hold dearest my heart and teaching that all children can learn and i humbly ask you to hold this accomplishment my selection as new york state teacher of the year tw twelve as evidence that all things are possible i too was a student in a class in an urban school i too moved around and changed schools many times over the years when i was young to some teachers i'm sure i seemed quite unremarkable at times yet i stand before you today in this honored role so i say to you this belief is powerful and can change lives believe in your children and our community we have a duty to c n r children what they may not see for themselves despite the and evitable struggles children of all backgrounds will face there is one constant teachers to the teachers of new york and on behalf of the teachers in schenectady i entreat you to believe that the most disadvantaged child can surpass those disadvantages and achieve great things believe the brightest child can reach even higher belief for them even if they do not believe for themselves since from your belief there's will blossom but even more importantly believe in our schenectady teachers schenectady teachers make a difference every day truly teachers work hard and often times without recognition but recognition as not what teachers are working for we the teachers of new york state and the schenectady city school district are dedicated to molding the minds of our future in order to show our students the endless possibilities they might achieve we must first model belief in ourselves and our teachers don't ever give up on our teachers for they have it within themselves to create solutions and change lives like mine belief is the spark that ignites accomplishment teachers are that spark and the schenectady city school district is alight with belief it has inspired me to come this far i think the schenectady city school district and the citizens of schenectady my home for this great honor thank you i'd like to call up members of the hudson mohawk river runners club scared me there for me i was like oh my god i'm going to be reading this to no one you're welcome thank you for coming tonight ok this resolution is to honor your runners club the hudson river mohawk river runners club for your charitable contribution to the city of schenectady towards the pavilion project and in central park whereas the hudson mohawk road runners club established in one nine hundred seventy one is dedicated to promoting the spore of distance running in the capital region and whereas with a membership of twenty five hundred strong continues to showcase the sport through education training to promote running as part of a healthy lifestyle as well as a sense of community through organizing managing running events creating opportunities for social activities and providing scholarships in grant monies to students and organizations respectively and whereas the club recently donated ten thousand dollars thank you very much to the city of schenectady to install the side walls at the pavilion of central park in the city of schenectady now therefore be it resolved that the acting mayor and the city council expresses their gratitude to the hudson mohawk road runners club for your charitable donation in for your continued involvement in our community mr president i would move the resolution of the second  favor signify by saying i opposed resolutions adopted getting a lot of use out of the pavilion for the a city and first residence thank you thank you we have one public kurian tonight at the proposed two thousand and twelve budget the first speaker is jason play in live in schenectady as you do i have many concerns about the budget and i did do a letter to the editor the week before you all you propose the budget and my fear was fees were going to be raised and they were we go back to the garbage fee who had a problem with that since it was instituted in two thousand and four and twenty four dollars went on last year i believe in another twenty four this year  then as carl strock pointed out it is regress so because somebody would have fifty thousand dollar houses going to pay the same as somebody with a three hundred thousand dollars house or a four hundred thousand dollars house there really isn't fair in that way there's no exemptions for seniors or veterans another thing that bothers me because there's people that are really up against it right now so the raise from the fees i really have a problem with i realize maybe i don't have a long way to a lot of ways to go with this i realize that but to stay under the tax cap in raise fees it's kind of a shell game and i'm afraid the taxpayers are paying and my going door to door and i'm sure you're hearing the same thing would people tell you with the number one thing sure nobody can argue with that and to add to the fees is is certainly a big part of it so when you go over the budget if you can trim those down it would be a big help then that's up to you to try to do that now my other concern is as you know is i read the story kathleen story on the body shop and i still have the same concerns that i had last year i see the figures coming in i'll look at it closer and maybe do some foiling to really see what those costs may be but i have concerns about material costs costs so to energy costs for the body shop and as a segregated from the rest of the garage or not i'd like to know all that so we can have a true cost like in a dealership you would have a good dealership knows what their sales department is doing with their use car departments doing what their body shop is doing and what their mechanical shop is doing and again i'll tell you with that body shop supplies are extremely expensive and energy costs are extremely expensive especially to run a spray booth and a source spray booth for a ten wheel drive vehicle or ten wheel wheel or vehicle like a dump truck or whatnot it costs a lot to bake that at one hundred forty hundred fifty degrees so i have some still have the same concerns i had last year in the body shop and please look out over carefully if anybody has any questions you want to ask a professional i'm available so please call on me when you go over that thank you my name is mary maclean i live in the city well it's budget time at the last council meeting mr erickson and mr mccarthy said they would seek pilots from non profits pilot names payment in lieu of taxes i would suggest to the non profits to say no when the city comes calling i favor pilots as an ordinary citizen to a non pilot and they ask for financial help for the city but legally non profits are not a source of income council must look elsewhere to fund its budget start by cutting back all of the nice to have they use that we cannot afford council had a head start on its budget with mr strengthens the new cell very instead of putting it toward the two thousand and twelve budget council spend that wasn't good council did have the foresight to sell the mayor's car now sell the rest of the fleet a sale of thirty five cars what a lemonade that cost for maintenance and shorelines and the gas used to run them the side  with save the taxpayers a huge amount of money another saving no more medical coverage for part time elected officials other communities have done this already spending money on literature like this hurricane irene preparedness this pamphlet is already obsolete why wasn't it general prepare us can apply to any hurricane  furthermore there are no phone numbers on here for the command center at the miss king talked about no phone numbers for police and firemen stations nope no numbers for council members or acting mayor there are names here for the three incumbents as far as i am concerned this was political literature paid for by the taxpayers slash the budget folks anything according to the last start magazine that i've received twenty five to thirty percent of the seniors have to decide if you are between food or medicine if you people can't get the message that our seniors and the people in this city are hurting i don't know what it's going to take for you cannot raise a dollar on anything i don't care what you're used for you've got to start up something here very p to not take their vehicles home i've talked about this for eight years you've got to put a stop to it i don't care if they live in a city where the already employees have to go to shop and pick up a vehicle and equipment and why can't the supervisors and other people in the city taken home here's absolutely no need for no mileage fee i've been supervision i was called in on emergencies no vehicle provided that's included in your s it's fee nothing that's your responsibility as an employee and that's the city employees responsibility if they don't like it find someplace felt work simple as that these benefits we just cannot afford and what you're doing here with the fish place over here on beautiful i don't deny it i don't deny that we needed a place but not tell you what if you're going to keep raising taxes and fees you better make that into a place to accommodate the senior citizens and provide three meals a day because they can't pay their taxes and he can't afford to live in his city simple as that you've got to help the citizens of this hourly for emergencies a supervisor that's unheard of in industry you don't get that and why are we doing it here in the city there's a many changes you could make i'm sure but you cannot evening acting mayor members the council thanks for the up to speak on the budget although it's always interesting to me that we have a seventy nine million dollar document i think four or five people who speak about it but i appreciate the opportunity and i appreciate that it's put up on the  so it's available for folks to look at and to comment on it's a straightforward budget it deserves straightforward support in general has a number of good features to it including some outreach to neighborhoods and shows of initiatives that are good as a beginning and hopefully can be strengthened in the future our window in at this current here's a ministry working with the city is on a summer lunch program as many of you know and we're this past summer serve thirty five thousand zero twenty three lunches in thirteen different sites it was a banner year we work in partnership with the city and in many of the public parks so i was glad to see this budget lease at level support was continued but encourage you to look at ways anyway to strengthen support for the parks and maintenance for the parks they are real assets in our community and we've worked in partnership and that some of you may know that we contributed we succumb contribute thirty five hundred dollars towards the purchase of lumber it's time it's parks so that the picnic tables could be there at a time in the cities to have built them in a very timely fashion that worked out well so we could begin that process it was thirty five hundred dollars we could have put somewhere else but we felt it was important to work in partnership with the city on that to make that available during that time so i would encourage you that way as i looked on the budget just a couple small items that struck me when you look at page seven it talks about the allocations from c b d that can be developed block grant and the struggle with that is your voting our voting surely something that really should be allocated next year but you put in assumptions in this that hopefully you can still use changeable but i was pleasantly surprised in a couple of them to see that there were reductions in the amount for the department from a hundred thousand to six hundred thousand although one should even take a close look at the six hundred thousand because as you well know the results have been at best mixed i was glad to see the reduction in the allocation for the police department which i presume is made up by the cops great later on i'm glad to see that a courage and hoping they can keep moving in that direction also the finance department was a limited and c b d which is a good and natural step there was an increase in the step budget which is in general a good item however i was puzzled and looking at it because there was a reduction in there for some say at least one snap position either of those if that's a disconnect between the increase in this amount and otherwise also i noticed there was a small r discussion last year about a retreat schenectady and i was surprised to see that that was not put in for this year because that leverage is a good deal of money but to appreciate to working in partnership with you and glad to work with you more in terms of strengthening parks in our community thank you good evening my name is pat salinger i live in the city of schenectady reverend grigsby was correct in saying that it was a pretty unremarkable project and it was there was nothing really that stood out throughout the document and the summary was a nice addition to it for this year the problem is is that the budget still has increased by two million dollars over last year the problem with that is that the tax base in the city has decreased we have more not for profit buildings and tax exempt properties this year than we've we've had even in two thousand and nine salaries for generally everyone in the state of new york have decreased and perhaps i mean none of you really realize that because your salaries are pretty stable but people have lost their jobs people have lost their benefits and people really are struggling with that what struck me more than anything was that there was no what temp or even the illusion of trying to cut any saying trying to make any think efficient more efficient within the city and trying to consolidate  even i mean even paper supplies and postage you have a new position for a postage or a mail center and all of the breakdowns are under each each department and we don't even know what any department is going to use what also struck me was that ok the may the acting mayor came out and said he's not using the vehicle and he's not using the cell phone and cell phone usage in vehicle usage have been suggested to be at least under a standard policy for the last eight years and that's been ignored that that may not seem like a whole lot under the grand scheme of things but at least what it does is it gives the public the perception that you're making an effort to make our city a little more efficient and a little more taxpayer friendly our business tax base has decreased horrendously i mean we do not have the businesses in the city and they can't afford to pay the taxes that we pay or that we have to pay and again the increase and in fees with the garbage fee being just dumped into the general fund it doesn't tell us anything it doesn't tell us anything about the efficiency of the department or how we're doing or or trying to we kind of minds and anyway so the budget was a disappointment and hopefully the city council can look into it in the last concern that i have is that the actor mayor acting mayor submitted the budget and he also has the right to vote on the by chad and i think that's a complete conflict of interest thank you petitions presented to the city council for tuesday october eleventh two thousand and eleven official communications from the mayor list of appointments dated ten eleven eleven under general from bellevue preservation private preservation will sponsor a debate for schenectady city council on thursday october thirteenth seven p m at st paul's a biscoe will parish hall on fairview avenue and receive too late to become part of the packet the woodlawn neighborhood association will meet wednesday october twelfth at the woodlawn reform church eight hundred fifty eight states street at seven p m invited guests will be candidates endorsed by the democratic party candidates include those seeking office for county legislature city council city court judge and mayor question and answer session will follow each speaker of the meeting is open to the public he again acting mayor members of council want to speak briefly about two things one to correct what was said i did not say the budget was unremarkable i said it was straightforward just so that's clear  secondly i want to talk about the item about the awarding consulting services to carers inc this is an item that was proposed during the commune of a block grant cycle it was approved by this council in may and submitted to hood i would view this resolution before you as a technical matter that needs to be done to complete what was done in may and i would also indicate to you since i understand there's going to be a r question i'm not fully sure what the questions are but let me just say that if if this were held up i believe it would be a substantial amendment that would be required and requires separate action by how to deal with it so i believe this is a technical matter and encourage  support for it leverages or a large amount of funding that's available to the community and to my knowledge care isn't affected organization thank you favor of the consent agenda signify by saying i any opposed consented genda is adopted the clerk would read item number three number three a resolution awarding consulting services to care's ank for the submission of the two thousand and eleven hyde continuum of care funding application on behalf of the city of schenectady there to motion to move this council member caring to have a second secondly council member brooker before up for discussion you know by no means as carers inc an organization they don't feel as is worthy they've got a reasonable service that they're providing but i think in especially in schenectady what we see is there's a lot more need than there is money and what i think we need to consider is spending money in different places as things go and we we support this organization in the past for this ten thousand dollars they courting t website they submit a grant to then get to point something two point eight million dollars two point six million dollars that that gets brought back to that organization which can gets dispersed to other organizations with and within the city and so you know when i look at their their overall budget and they say well you know what is this ten thousand dollars actually going to it was presented to us and committee that it's  more or less you know an element of money that goes into their budget which is a multi you know a larger budget more than this ten thousand dollars and i think that in most cases we're seeing but it's all over the place getting caught and so i don't think a ten thousand dollar cut is all that big and i think that the city can use these you know scarce resources of c b d funding to possibly provide more value for the recipients and so we look at the neighborhoods that qualify for city b g funding and we had you know somebody already came up and said that they provide investment into the parks there's a good idea we could provide a sidewalk program which i think is very valuable to our communities and to our neighborhoods and so i think we need to look at not to say th organization isn't worthy but there's more worthy organizations and we have money and so my intention or my my wish is just to reallocate this money to a different program where i think there's more value bigger bang for the buck where more hardworking  is it is a grant application that they're asked and from there asking for our permission to submit an application for the hard continue of care funding application i'm behalf of the city of schenectady if they don't submit the grant and we don't allow them to submit the grant which we are paying them ten thousand dollars for their services which includes budgeting which includes coordinating all of the resources that have to be put into a grant of four the amount of two million eight hundred sixty three thousand dollars sixty eight if that grant is not submitted that two million dollars two million eight does not come to the city is schenectady in the city of scanty it will lose that money the two million eight does go for homeless individuals and their families to provide housing and supportive services for these homeless individuals and their families and again with our submission of the grant the city stan to lose two million a two point eight million dollars in funding so i'm going to vote yes for  so again i want to clarify that i'm not against them applying for the grant on the i'm against spending the ten thousand dollars i think that they would still have the ability to apply for the grant in their overall budget with the resources they have at hand  any other discussion the court call the roll mr allen explained my vote again in a lot of state and federal funding streams for we said here logic sometimes is not part of that can be frustrating where you would like to allocate money i'm different areas or have greater flexibility but i believe that this money to apply for the great really leverage is a lot really has a big impact on the community and where we're seeing so many cutbacks from the federal and state level that to risk this by not moving ahead with the grant application is not prudent and i vote resolutions carried five eyes one day one absent will now turn to the floor dealing with general city business and the first speaker site up is barbara kat all and get to walk like split up two down there we gotta do it it's got to be done before something happens you ok mark this one down i'm going to give you a thumbs up for i like the public safety surcharge that you put on that i go along with maybe should we should have more of that and do away with the fees because i think that's a good thing the surcharge on the towing is good those that have problems you know and maybe not and by the law maybe part to legally pay more i'm all for the loud music that's a good thing too i like that you know instead of police having to go back back and forth back and forth cycle that's fine the stub your toe or every want to call it using the t says primary care doctors that's fine i have i think you should add more i think like with joy paul talked about walking in the street let's put a surcharge on that and tag them for that too we should have to stop our cars to drive around people and wait for them and then they flip it a bird and all that stuff you know i mean this stuff has to stop i mean my thing is bad and i'm i'm standing on a zero tolerance and that's what we need in this city to start cleaning it up so maybe more of these surcharges should be in enacted and less racing but let's get some money from the people that are breaking the law there's a lot of that going on these people living in their houses are breaking the law they're abiding by the law so let's charge the people that are breaking the law and there's a lot of that going around but they're skating free for some reason so again i have no problem at all with those search i think it's a good idea and i'd like to see you maybe add a little it and build on that because i think it's a good idea will finally get the message across that let's abide by the law in schenectady if not move on i have no problem with that at all that's what we need so good you did a good job with that thank you flyfishing lights and everything it's seldom used they cross any place they want the bus parks blocks traffic it's terrible down there that permit for a group of occupied that building as it is should never have been  issued now you're considering or possibly already have decided that the why he's going to go down there i don't know if that's true or not but do not let it happen there is no room down there for parking there's no room for more traffic down there if these people need a building and i'm going to glenville miscue in any place if there's no room in schenectady but the plot on broadway take should not be used for the why it shouldn't be used the way it going up a large street you've got fines hanging on to vehicles are hidden the vines hang we don't trim not back i don't know what's happening here or where you talk or reveal vitalizing neighborhoods and you can't maintain you've got here without going into the neighborhoods you solicit people from out of town to come here yeah they bought our two family houses they fixed them up and they went to new york and that's where our money is going why don't you have our city employees live in a city according to our charter they're supposed to and you make no move on this something's gotta be done here by our council and by our marriage we need to change and it's got to be done for areas down near since april may somebody in a blockage vehicle go between a curb and a sidewalk and the right is still there our city employees care about our city whoever drove through that had no need to be refill and that's why it is all over papa we have the police the fire department drive in every street in the city the trash collectors and they can report a pot pull i don't understand what's going on but they don't care because they don't live here we're the people that have to put up with that and we're paid nurse our us boy we've got a lot of problems here let me tell you and you've got your hands full in straighten out our charter and not for just p for the human rights commission and i remember being in the room and being interviewed with mr allen and donnelly and you know i consider myself good at answering questions in interviews and that's why that one thing i thought i could overcome is going through the interview and i remember mr allen asking me looked me in the eye and said have you ever been involved in human rights struggle right or human where what i have been involved in anything you know but as i mentioned i thought i was quick on my toes in interviews and i quickly looked him in his eye and said you know i was born in the civil rights struggle you know  heard his bolz song when of at time of war mr allen knew his calling heard his calling to be on city council when ran a second run in which he was as on the city council but it also marks another important time period for schenectady county schenectady and that it was the year in which the official song of schenectady was compose by john vande lasik and sung by judy merriam adopted by the city council in january one thousand nine hundred five and i thought it was interesting i just wanted i couldn't find anywhere on youtube or anything these days where it with songs i don't know what the tunes towns like or anything but the wording of it our schenectady what a warm and friendly place it is to be nestled among pla and hills what a beautiful river that always gives us thrills saw and shores i'm sorry stores and shops with all that one might need or which to use and legends and tales and lots of history all schenectady are schenectady let us now plan and help to make it grow if we will all do our best then others can do the rest for places to study and learn in places to work and earn and places to live in happiness so with that you know i thought it was very important to bring that out and lastly we wanted to bring gifts words of martin luther king  from the sanitation workers strike where he said whatever your life's work is do it well a man should do its job so well that the living the dead and the unborn could do it no better if if falls you're a lock to be a street sweeper sweep the streets like michelangelo painted pictures like shakespeare wrote poetry like a tovan compose music sweep streets so well that all the hosts of the heaven on earth would have to pause and say here live the great street sweeper who swept his job well just vallance from brother the same paw you digit job well things that people help me do first off like i said i was blessed to get this opportunity and i am to enjoy every minute of it i enjoy helping people and dealing with issues that lot of people don't want to do it and i thank you again for your your efforts here and i think to say something later on about your your organization because you guys didn't good job i used to like going over to the masons hall and having a cocktail and have and some food every now and then and i'm looking forward to your future success thanks again thank you gentlemen merry mclean  graduations mr allen that's a hard act to follow the incumbents literature reid's creation of more than thirty five hundred new private sector jobs the big salaries and benefits are in the public sector jobs jobs one person escaping three of them for himself i called the american civil liberties union in albany a tour report the situation in schenectady the man who answered the phone said quote it is not good government on signs on the lawns it would appear that a goodly number of mr mccarthy supporters live on that street mr president can you take the time to trunk fell on a chain link fence the fans is crushed whose responsibility is it to correct the situation sheltering him ave there to the property does the city get paid for that lastly the burned out house on broadway there is no roof the upper part is a sh the tarp a shattered and the business owners on the street live with it every day the situation has been like that for more than that a year why doesn't the city give this building priority the set a sense want it down on the sooner the brat or all the neighborhoods are begging for help thank you to thank the veterans for the right to speak tonight and by the way i risk my life coming here tonight i drove wonder does that make me a hero you know we put heroes status on almost everyone today i think we've lost sight of what a real hero is and you know that meeting where the police the fire chief was down here whining about smoke in the heat and flames what do you expect you're going to find when you go into a fire department and you know we honor them you know these surrounding communities are staffed with volunteers they go they put out the fires and they go back to work and so you know this is a manipulation and it really sick is people need to wake up to it now this recent shooting that upsets me for days i guess i'm the only one left in schenectady with any compassion and i'm sorry that the brothers didn't come down to us to address that so you know while our commissioner says that the law says that we can shoot people that have knives i think maybe we ought to be looking at alternatives because that to me is not twenty first century policing any more than kicking in doors you know and a lot of this nonsense that goes on and by the way gary we need to have other mindsets involved and how we're going to police this can this community the police to me the very nature of the job is damaging and this stuff has become institutional and they don't even begin to see how off of center they are and so i think it's it's time that we got citizens involved that actually fund this nonsense to have some input we can't rely on nice folks and especially this department with their history and you know what's going fortunate we have members on this armored with any man in a uniform whether it's police or firemen that's unfortunate now i don't know if you saw this drug unit's vehicle bias pro i've been saying and i'm going to continue to say that this the police department needs to be audited by other than police personnel how much money is it costing this city to police this community when you factor in the grants what the city a city contributes seize property automobiles and here is a story drug units vehicle by pro albany county sheriff you want to read that how do we know something similar is not going on here so you know there's a lot of things to be considered i don't know that you folks have the inclination to want to look at this stuff you haven't seen to in a one to look at it in the past and lastly these conversations that come to this microphone have been coming for the last twenty years the same old same old what are we going to start to address this stuff like i say we need to move into the twenty first century and a lot of w building first i place no blame on the police officers who responded to the incident because i feel that they were faced with a very scary and uncertain incident and they reacted according to how they were trained  witnesses describe the person that was shot he seemed to be an incoherent so it must be understood that in such circumstances these orders that are directed at them may not be well understood  s as far as i know there has yet to be a thorough investigation into this incident i can only comment in general there are conflicting reports so far such as the person shot was assumed to be suicidal be in his relatives thought he may have had suicidal thoughts raz witnesses were quoted as saying that the man was asking for help although there was a comment that this person lunged at the police officer the police officer who shot this person was quoted as saying he thought this individual may have been thinking of lunging so and witnesses also have been quoted as saying this person appeared to be very weak possibly heavily drugged and incohere already the media is calling it a suicide by police and that he was suicidal hopefully assumptions will be kept close to the vest until district attorney robert harney completes a thorough investigation of this incident what i wish to convey to the community is that there is special training for police officers who are confronted would insist that since this such as what occurred at the gazette building the training is being implemented nationwide it's in new york state such as cities as rochester troy albany to just name a few as a matter of fact albany not only has the training for the police officers it's grown leaps and bounds to include judges lawyers mental health professionals city council members and other members of the community this training offers answers to the difficulties police departments are dealing with emotionally disturbed or we had a public forum on this training with eric we have our former rochester police sergeant and and he's a swat team member in special crisis intervention when an emotionally disturbed person is involved police chief mark shares was given a private introduction to this training is training as to the safety officers the community reduces injuries lawsuits and saves money and time and just one more thing hopefully schenectady will follow example of joy in albany see the value of this training and implement it to ensure that our police officers have every tool available to them to instill more confidence and alleviate some of the dangers that they in the community face in dangerous situations thank you respect to we are a city in need and there is only so much money that is available the housing stock that's on the market for sale has increased to well over a thousand man city owned residential units the city itself oh and i practically five hundred properties between attacks for closures and there are certain a program w what the council needs to do is take a good hard look at the project and see if there really is any place that can be consolidated or items that can be caught every every household in the city we have to cut our budgets we can't be we can't spend money that we don't have and because you're a taxing agency ok you can raise our taxes and certainly you you've kept that underneath where the mayors proposed budget has kept that underneath the  two percent cap so that it looks good but raising the fees is truly a hardship for a lot of people now that the acting mayor has a very strong commanding personality and can be very persuasive and has made no effort at all to try and even give the illusion that we're trying to consolidate or conserve in the city so it's truly up to the council members to do that as our representatives to our local government thank you gum and you know we're being audited in such a way that there's no open ended questions and a lot of people wouldn't even really be aware to this you know and it's like the questions are directed in a way that it's like a catch twenty two it could be looked at you know either way and i also want to address the fact that gives me a little bit of hope here is going to be i see a new face up here before me and it's reverend adams and i just i really i'm not bowled into a false sense of security when i hear that you guys are doing something because i mean you no part of me don't take this the wrong way you could put a bomb inside of a box and just put some pretty gift wrapping on and people will take it you know i mean i just gotta say that the schenectady police department is running rampid and the only reason they're allowed to do so is because everybody's got their foot in the door and they've got all these little mechanisms in facets put in place to allow them to keep doing it like for instance john van norden he put in an like animal some sort of order to to to get in the way of me being able to you know work with internal affairs which had never worked anyway and he won't even look at any of my evidence which people struck down when i spoke before i had about realistically sixteen cameras on me and when i was done talking about the evidence that i of horrible things that happen to me i was called mentally ill and i think that's the modern day equivalent see you point your finger and calling somebody a witch you know what i'm saying and it just gives a gives me a bad stigma not mentally ill i'm not on medication but i do want to talk about  van bellingham not to use names but she is in a in a position to really harm people that are distraught that they're in a city where they can't get out they have to resort to like you know getting in gangs or being a part of the block to even get down you know and i mean you know you've got people getting shot left and right we've got to think where does this this beef start it starts and correctional facilities we have correctional officers here in schenectady that instigate beef between inmates as an instrument to like pass their time and amuse them and this is real sick and nobody even really has the capacity to be able to relay that message and i have so much more to say and we have thirty seconds to say it given three minutes at a time and i'm asking right now if somebody could really really reach out to me and allow me to show you this evidence that i have been compiling comprises and then put it in a little commercial so that mccarthy doesn't become mayor and you know i don't necessarily want roger hall but i got to vote against the person i definitely don't want to be in and i'll tell you mr mccarthy this is not an opinion this is a fact you've been in the president for a long time i mean you know with all your knowledge and all that you know you're not even doing anything and i do want and i'm on over but i want to say here's an idea some positive we can create another stream of revenue possibly i don't understand the complexity of it completely  if we start tax and put surcharges on commissary for these criminals that have all these extra luxuries in jail maybe we could tax that and then you don't have a special little thing in bring some more money in but i have so much more to say no time to  really need to be done and somebody needs to help me because i have a lot of evidence i mean you weren't even cited or reprimanded at the d a for saying what you said about me and taken alleged confidentiality confidential information and nothing happened so i'm rambling on a little bit and i yeah you had too many means tonight we got the county and everything else on the but on the public hearing on the budget we had asked for a public hearing on the community from a block grant money and in the budget there it is  the development sent you the wrong figures last year you had taken out eight hundred thousand dollars out of the community block grant for code enforcement now it's taken out of the budget but when you look at the budget on the budget see it shows that you approved eight hundred thousand dollars you didn't you transfer that money over to snap this year you're asking for six hundred thousand dollars to go to four smit without having any kind of explanation of where it is you're not even increasing agents or anything else and if you were short eight hundred thousand last year what are you going to six hundred thousand dollars extra this year in community block grant money matter of fact they're even looking at cutting more of community won't block grant money so your figures are a little bit off in that section of the revenue section of the communal block grant the other piece of the puzzle is that you're asking seven hundred thousand dollars for this new key bank stuff if the average salary is thirty one thousand dollars in the city and sixteen thousand and it is in hamilton hill how can somebody qualify for one hundred thousand or one hundred twenty thousand dollars market they can't so how can they rebuild property taxes and also on the county tonight they were holding a public hearing to examine for one year property taxes within the city so you know i wasn't too sure exactly where that was coming from or what kind of directions is i didn't stay for the for the for the hearing on it but you know we've got all these different things going on that are cutting the revenue and expenses are going up and last time i checked revenues minus expenses you know and so i mean we need to take a look at more what's going on and we need to call for a public hearing on the community block grants this is an economic developments private little kitty and they can do whatever the heck they want with it also tonight i also want to let people know about the medicare reminder it's most people can i won't read all of it because i'm going to be short here most people can change their medicare drug plans only during the fall open enrollment which runs from october fifteenth to december seventh every year and you can go online to medicare plan finder even though if you think your drugs are  you might want to check and see if you can get more cheaper also you need to realize that medicaid is cutting certain drugs as of october first and medicaid is going to cut even further so you need to double check to make sure that you're covered under medicare and everything else and like i said just hopefully we can be able to do something with his budget tha to president just one item of recent concern maybe because of the bizarre weather we've had in a growing season extending longer than usual but i've noticed more and more stop a car that was heading west on rugby didn't see the stop sign and when i made my left turn and look back you can see the stop sign i'm sure there are others and i think we need to i'm not sure which department needs to address that but i think we need to have somebody right around the city and look at how many stop signs are not visible and therefore a problem for those who are not familiar with the neighborhood thank you if you do have specific locations like that if you yes a couple of things first of all my annual message is this time of year that october is national breast cancer awareness month and as a seventeen year breast cancer survivor i just can't stress enough the importance of early detection and encourage women to go for regular exams a couple of other things the it's going to be a busy weekend around here the union street harvest fest and art show is going to be on saturday from ten until three they've got skip parsons clarinet marmalade quartet among different attractions they have a lot of family friendly activities a lot of good food a lot of other music and it just is always a fun event and also the j street market place is will be going on this saturday from noon until five o'clock and lastly that the this is the time for them oh who arts festival which some people may have been hearing about the mohawk has an arts festival so there are a variety of different arts activities going on that i know the upper union street that's part of their focuses and as a sort of number of other things so i just hope people will watch the papers and take advantage of some of these things in the hope the weather stays like it is now thanks we keep our fingers crossed you know teachers are probably the most important or one of the most important aspects of our community they teach our children they they guide them they show them right from wrong they give them the tools to help them survive and so i think it's great when we have a educator like katie you who represents the city as connect the and in the community in the school district and it's wonderful and she said something very interesting she said believe in your children kind of a similar thing were he believed in this gentleman who was speaking maybe more than he believed himself and so it's kind of the same trend of the same concept those kind of carry through and so i just want to point that out so thank you very much and congratulations president i'd like to thank the brothers again a lot of people don't know a lot of good work here and the city is connected they recognize people that don't normally get recognized they've also put on some fundraisers at their at their club on the corner of schenectady and strong street and raise money for other people and other events and have supported other people  through their donations i had there and some financial difficulty right now because of the fact that they have their club was shut down to for some what i call them violations in regards to building building violations and we're hoping that they will get going again because it's a they're very well missed because they were a real strong young black men who were working not for themselves but for other people who who were in need so it's good to see and hear thanks for coming come back again as we missed you coming by and i miss going to your club i'd like to stop in there and have something to eat have fried chicken dinners on a regular basis at i think was either friday or saturday night so i was a regular customer to their club  for that reason and i just like to socialize to have a cocktail every now and then so thanks for coming i appreciate the recognition and the award and keep up the good work and i'd like to you down here again a little more often and just i really appreciate what you've done today and keep it up thank you i also wanted to congratulate mr allen i think the brothers for coming down that was a great tribute to him nice surprise i think i just i heard some comments tonight about the budget and i just kind of wanted to set the record straight on a few things that been misinterpreted if folks are looking at the budget on line or have downloaded it made a copy of it and are reading it i would particularly call their attention to it was mentioned tonight that we need to look at consolidating services and i would say that if you looked at the budget you'll see many of the items in the different departments have really been consolidated into one group and specifically i'm talking about purchasing purchasing from materials supply lines training lines in all the various departments if you look you'll see that they've been zeroed out and the reason they've been zeroed out is are going into one fund which i think is a very good idea and it will to help people have the opportunity to take a look and have the city you know really what we're spending a lot of these items it also will provide for better buying power in and more more opportunity to look to consolidate services in terms of buying buying in terms of a larger larger quantities with all the different organizations in departments one of the examples we heard this evening during one of our budget hearings to fire department and not only are they looking to work again with their city colleagues in the county representatives in the city but they're also looking out towards other municipalities in terms of buying medical  their mass so i think these are some very good ideas that we're seeing in this budget it's something i've never seen in my twelve or thirteen years here on the council that these issues have been looked at in this manner and i think they're going to help us  save some money and have people take a closer look at how spending is don thank you thank you get i want to also congratulate mr allen you know we're part of that one nine hundred ninety five campaign for city council who are both going to start our careers and look back at that with some fun memories i do appreciate people coming down talking on the budget the time and effort the staff has put in in preparing it and as we go through the budget review the council's diligence in working with the staff and working with myself as counselor broker points out there are a lot of things in terms of consolidation that we are doing  know the city is plowing them with stuff for the school district mr olson had worked that out that had never been done before it's just kind of a common sense obvious deal we're working with the municipal housing authority and other options it's an ongoing process where you know we're looking at health care other kind of exciting things that have the potential to save large sums of money  it and look at our wastewater treatment plant which is that one of the more sexy items in the budget but it provides really key in terms of our ability to attract future economic development here for that facility works not only for the city of schenectady but parts of the scioto to glendale rotterdam and parts of southern saratoga county our water distribution network is also very key in terms of future economic growth in the city is working in a manner with our game partners and other municipalities to try and do those things the best we can at the cheapest price weekend so as we go through this budget we're going to look to still and try and improve upon the document that was submitted to you a week before last and we will you know continue through the next year to make some of those things come to fruition to that we do make the community a better place to live and with that i will entertain a motion to adjourn will by mr erickson secular mr dulles all in favor signify by saying i any opposed council stands