twenty five years ago this month the new england patriots were purchased by one robert kraft who's out a very successful run as the owner of the numa patriots that was a january twenty first of one thousand nine hundred ninety four just four days after that time out for sports talk recorded its very first program a tape which no longer exists sad to say but it featured on myself along with the panelists a mike hagan's bill gillette bob f a cormick and here we are twenty five years later this month to say happy anniversary to mr kraft and i guess to time out for sports talk we welcome you to the award winning edition of this program which has been and on tape for twenty five years and we're very happy that you can join us we're still belmont's first sports program here at what you will use to be the old high school studios and now we're here of course on nine lexington street the belmont media super bowl for the tenth time in the robert kraft era the tenth time in our twenty six super bowl previews that were got the hometown team playing in the game as i as i said every year boy  i may even take more than one show to celebrate the see and averse we had some surprises lined up and because the patriots went on a successful playoff run we had to kind of curtail some of them so while the likes of this could be an extended celebration but we're celebrating the tonight and of course the gentleman who's been with me for a great many of this is our four hundred thirteenth show and how we mccloughan you've been here for a very large majority of them in the co pilot's chair happy anniversary to you two i know i know you weren't here for the very first show but you've certainly been here for we wouldn't be here twenty five years of it wasn't for you i don't know about that but it's great to be here glad to be over and i just want to put out that everyone if anyone would like to give me a call it's going to be awful lonely being alone on super bowl sunday thank you appropriately though i did watch a lot of games with howie this year i also watched a few games with jay fluid who joins us in the third share once again fishley now in fourth place all time to there and i know just off camera and we should do this now we have a little ceremonial bit here to celebrate our twenty fifth anniversary jeff cancel the executive director of the belmont media center is here with all wow i thought i'd just be one big take instead we got a whole bunch a little cakes well we come here every twenty five years oh it's twenty five there's no wait a minute i don't know you hold you miss and one is only twenty four there's a big yeah there's a big course so you saw jeff there jeremy missouri hanging out who was the sports t v producer check out all the great coverage during the of the winter season and got some a red hot belmont basketball teams and check out all that coverage along with  where we do these patriots super bowl previews of course we get to talk to a team the other city could be a little twist this year though it's twenty five years we thought we'd break our our normal tradition do something a little different one of the surprise will tell you a little bit more about that in a little well you know i was actually it was an article here too when robert kraft bought the patriots twenty five years ago of course we were up reviewing super bowl twenty eight where the dallas cowboys super bowl and we actually have a call oh ok we're going to go to the pump but anyway third straight super bowl patriots and the only other two teams that have done it we mention the buffalo bills the other one you got to go back to the one nine hundred seventy s the miami dolphins that's right the only three teams to ever appear in three straight super bowls all play in the a f c east and the like that or anyway let's go to the phones and we're going to talk to chris christie hello welcome to timeout for sports talk's twenty fifth anniversary edition  exactly yeah oh you're asking of those three who was the most valuable for the patriots in their run we all know we watch them in flight time but who do you think it college to do what he's done is just phenomenal i mean him and dolo was he was great in the playoffs i mean it always came up in the playoffs but you know during the regular season he was you know but adelman he comes through sixteen games during the season songs is not suspended and then comes through with the playoffs time and time again and like i said as much as welcome was great and i love them but i always ask that question how many super bowls did they win with them and the answer is we can just blackout the screen christo or about that i'm going to go forty thirty four right high school i mean you're picking the patriots right of course ok all right i'm just going to make it good or so again the big thanks to chris again phone lines are open six one seven forty four two four four three as we mentioned you know i do have to say the only reason i'm bringing this up how he thinks i'm doing it so like beat up on him but the truth is that you know our sh do one show a month and the truth is for like the last five weeks the show's been rerunning the animals on a loop pretty much and you know it it's interesting that last year we came up with after the patriots of last back to back games in miami and it pittsburgh when things did not look very good the were not in five they were in third place in the a f c and you would said you know the patriots they're not the patriots they were in the past the ship is going down they won't get a bye it's done put a fork in them they're not better than the jets the bills and i remember we were kind of  patriots you thought the cleveland browns and yeah they had a chance they did a time they still did they did they were mathematically alive bacharach's true but they needed like ten things to happen that and the patiently and if you already thinks they were still at that time i said they still had a chance it felt like you were as confident were cleveland as you were with new england no i just like being in i committed if ok i mean if we agreed on everything the show would be boring i think yeah ok so you took the after they lost those games back to back and put themselves in a spot where they were going to have to play a playoff road game something that has not been good for the patriots over the last dozen years yet you had to go back to two thousand and six the last time they had won a road playoff game not that they've amazingly enough you know and i kind of before we even get to the super bowl i think we have to talk about this game because i think we all went in you know pretty realistically saying i mean this is a team that would finish the regular season three and five on the road here you see the aforementioned julian edelman we were talking about earlier here is one of his his many big catches you know this was a game i mean you know the way the game started how he very similar to the way the chargers game started with a pitcher put together a long drive eight minutes marched down the field scored a touchdown and i mean the fact that shut out the chiefs for the entire first half of the game first time all year chiefs have been shut out of the game and it was done on their home field which is not an easy place to play that's been it's been weird at the into a lot of things they haven't done before like deferring the kickoff they're taking the ball all of a sudden nobody's on the interim report which yeah i just have a i mean they're just doing things like totally one eighty of everything they have ever done and i don't know if it's just different new day and age it's just you know we messed with their heads this way now let's mess with their heads this way but how about in the era where everyone's throwing the ball the patriots are now running the ball like it's one nine hundred seventy six  just and it's between the tackles a lot and a little off tackle but like you know they just run the ball and controlling the game controlling the clock and you know doing some play action then they're there you know then some as opposed to fifty five passes and i mean you know in the normal game and run the ball in twelve times if they can because if they can keep the other team off the field and off it's i mean that's that's a great defense you know sometimes that's what you get to do you know depend on what you play and yeah you know to keep them off the field you know yeah i mean it's all you know leading the way has been rookie asone michel to go to the got a picture a couple pictures of him and the patriots are right charlie is saying i wish i didn't teach him so much yeah before the season if we have asked like todd gurley versus sony michel who is going to have a bigger year now granted girlies you know a few years into the league now and you know michel just a rookie but you know i would have said gurley would be the better back in fact even if you just did the against the saints i mean so he's in the in the stat i read on him i think is when he carries the ball he's fifteen times the rams don't lose but he's been limited in his carries lately of you know but yeah both these teams come in running the ball which let's just throw the ball up and running around the end yeah the patriots are certainly been doing it with the with several guys of course and another player was going to be a big key component again we got a photo of him here to james white as one of his receptions he had in the a f c championship win over the chiefs you know and white of all of course we you know we all know whites pedigree if you notice of the big game winning touchdown in super bowl fifty one and you know the you know the number receptions he's been coming up with and and so yanking krug was done fantastic and his blocking and allen yeah it's just incredible you know while in the office of light in general the interesting thing when you look at both these teams i was reading somewhere i heard this somewhere th others can it right and i think the last time they won the super bowl the same thing so they were offensive line had been pretty much injury free and they went on to win if i if i remember correctly you know that's a big thing that continuity they know what they do and they know who's going to be where they don't even have to talk they just know you know that from being together for so long and that goes back to sky neck i mean this guy's he's just he's the best i mean if he doesn't make the hall of fame we're going to him because he's good and he's awesome he's great they run the ball well little tiny guy is right no no no he they run the ball well and brady doesn't hasn't gotten hit against two of the better against kansas city and san but it's going to be a big test yeah especially because the pages when they do lose when they have problems and yeah the other team gives them a lot of pressure and brady's pressure they come up the middle and soon don't have the capability to do that we have a picture of aaron donald here just showing this was him in action in the n f c championship game going after a drew brees he certainly was getting pressure on him and you know it is yeah it's not be up to the office of line you know you brought up trent brown and of course the guy lined up right next to him at left guard jo meet interesting note on to me he is going to make n f l history when he lines up at the beginning of super bowl fifty three he's going to become the first player to make super bowl three consecutive starts in three super bowl think anyone on the rams is hurt either now but the patriots have that three headed running back monster those guys we've mentioned white and birkhead and michelle of course you know the other side you've got you know we talked about todd gurley but the the guy who's been red hot for them in the anderson who patriots fans and the patriots themselves know very well from his days with the denver broncos and they were only yellow helmets the white actually this photo right here is exactly the uniform that the little track track once they want to travel with the poet was in the track i don't know but these are yeah this is a this is not going to be i mean eventually i guess and you know i think you might have seen in some of the pictures the rams have had that issue where they have the helmet with a white clinching score in that game the rams were in their rough their throwback whites with the same helmet though and then the other two times when they appeared as the st louis rams in tight yellow invite the beat the titans and super bowl thirty four then lost to the patriots well the other interesting thing too is with the rams they've won one super bowl in franchise history that was super bowl thirty four against the titans the play they came down to the you know the last you know a kevin dice and caught the ball and mike jones stopped them at the one yard line which at the time was considered one but the other interesting thing about that game the only rams super bowl win for their franchise is that the game was played in atlanta that was the other goes the other and that was the other and this is going to the thirty times this is the third time the super bowl will be in atlanta the other two were the georgia dome first one being super bowl twenty eight which was as i said the what we previewed on our very first time out for sports talk show and then two thousand the super bowl thirty four which the rams beat the titans so yes of the written i guess the rams are happy to was i was watching something tonight about how that roof opens up it's almost like a kaleidoscope oh they were retractable roof oh yeah you know you know if it's not going to be a cause i think there's a chance the showers that i could open up in just the way it opens it's almost like a kaleidoscope yet here it super bowl in that stadium they had the roof open that you can kind of like all these other stadiums now that recently opened over the field not the fans but that is this is the mercedes benz a stadium of hosting its very first super bowl the home of the atlanta falcons biggest question i have though wager on where the open and like i was listening to some like the c e o is going to make an exception now because there's pressure from the fan no i mean he might because it's the super bowl because he's got seventy five thousand people sitting there but he has every week when let me find that photo this is what i get for having so many photos there it is ok all right well oh boy he's going to have to weigh all right so it's call is line one on top i think so all right this would be steve g who is the manager of the american sports saloon steve is that you heard air america steve gee you're the manager of the american sports saloon in new orleans louisiana let me explain something here i have to introduce this a little bit here steve years past when the patriots are in the super bowl traditionally we call a sports bar in the other team city and we have plans to call a sports bar in los angeles however first of all there was a couple different reasons we decided to change up the tradition this year one they would not return my calls and second i also realized this in los angeles for the championship the profits championship games the patriots chiefs a f c championship game got higher v ratings in los angeles than the rams chiefs game did so why would i why would i want to call a sports city i think they can't even get the highest ratings for their home team that's going to the super bowl so  better much better game nationwide obviously well yeah you knew you would have brady and reason the battle of the the two old old quarterbacks and it would've been a classic battle many still never faced off in the super bowl against each other they've combined to win six yooper bowls but the new again never against each other and in the fact that these two teams have never met in the super bowl would have been would have been fun too instead of you know kind of a rams redux but i figured if they if they both if you guys played us we could have been spotted by what was the overall reaction obscene your place must have been filled to the gills what was the overall reaction by the way your sports bars not too far from the from the superdome itself to new orleans you're you're right in the french quarters there but every is walkable from from where in atlanta well right and not to mention of course you could have you know your seat so you could have said to the the falcons fans hey we beat the patriots in the super bowl and you guys couldn't even when you had a twenty five point lead in the in the second half right exactly yeah but i did i guess i did feel bad for you guys i mean i've never seen a team get so bad in all the years i have watched sports in my life and i'm gone back to the sixty's because i'm the old guy on this group and i just i just that for the refs in that game turned out to l a l a area residents you know not doesn't it just doesn't look good for prevent further whole situation that's why that's something i didn't know and you know i heard that like a couple of days later and yeah i did think that was kind of strange like it would get brought up you know after the fact kind of just tossed matter of fact league side but yeah i don't know i do wonder is that why they missed the call i mean you know that that's why some asked to be done about that i mean they talk about i mean if i like a certain you can have two challenges in the game and you should be able to challenge anything you want you never godless in that if if that was true if that was challenge that would have been coordinator just coach yeah yeah wow so what are you are you going to be even watching the super bowl the way you know obviously the way that n f c championship game ended do you have any don't don't just drop on that one steve because while you're talking about the pelicans that's probably the next big story in new orleans which is probably why it's great that we're talking to a new orleans sports me i'm like yourself because the big story this week is that  davis through his agent demanded a trade before the n b a trade deadline which is coming up in about ten days or so and then he's also facing a fine from the league because i guess you not supposed to announce those things you know you know to bad trades in the middle of the season called le bron james trying to get some like leadership advice and supposedly they kissed and made up so to speak and in the process now now there's rumors floating today then that irving wants to go back and play with the bron again which seems funny because that's the total opposite of what we were hearing when the celtics acquired him last year it's just it's crazy but yeah i mean i don't know a steve personally the way these these in the in today's n b a nobody wants everyone wants to try to form their own little super team and that's you know and i guess it's i guess i shouldn't be complaining about it because it's possible the celtics could end up being a super team if they can manage the whole we don't we already did it once when we got it right it started there with we're going to net now and so you know it's you know goes around comes around one of the first one yeah exactly so but i'm just sorry for you guys because like you said you know the only reason you know you have to be a pelicans fan is davis pretty much and he's just been carrying that team on his back but it hasn't really helped him very much in the standings and and what you know now looks like he's going to you know potentially be gone but it's your point howie that the fact is that if you're the pelicans why would you settle for a lesser deal from the lakers if you could just sit back and maybe wait for the celtics also based on salary the salaries have to come within like what ten fifteen and so you can trade you can trade all your draft picks for you in perpetuity if you want but if you don't throw a player contract in there you can't make the deal he declares he just trade players for draft picks in the a that's the right words they see before we let you go walk we get a score for me i know you said you have very little interest in super bowl fifty three but is this part of our tradition we ask you for a score by the way if you get the exact score of the game correct you can you can fly up here on your own di you know like i mean first of all how many calls how many pass in the first calls we ever seen where it wasn't a pass in the form of call but it looked like kind of looked like one and they threw the flag and he wins jack one so yeah really and now it's like the dude got rams you know we kind of mocked it there with the state but the truth is it's kind of you know the brady bill check to come full circle and they played the rams and of course we've got photos from the super bowl it's on the it's same day two exact same day seventeen years to the day february third of course we all remember how that game ended out of the teary again we're going to there we go splitting the uprights and then of course his reaction right there super bowl thirty six patriots were fourteen point underdogs at the new orleans superdome force patriots winning their very first championship as you can see the we were talking uniforms before the rams with a different kind of a cold helmet that in the words he said in their their white jerseys and of course the the greatest moment of that which we don't have of the video clip of it but ricky prole n f l films a saying before the game started tonight a dynasty is born oh oh that's right yeah he was a wide receiver for the rams and the rams of course play on the exact same date and see exact same team are you worried that that night a dynasty will and you know you know that's just things go full circle you know that's not common i hope you're right pro also lost to us when he was on carolina you know karate and two years after his kid is on the rams practice squad is a yes so this could be a complete we can get  the second die and the second generation of families and so we should start work on it so do you think we should get the kid from the practice watch and say dynasty is going to be born tonight you know is that you dynasty is going to try to get running again maybe that could have been the guy we could have called wasn't good but just think of the other interesting thing in those first two super bowls you know simple thirty six pro sports the time touchdown before this kicked by the terry one it was but the time touchdown with under two minutes left the tie the game at seventeen and set up for john madden's infamous television i was just thinking about that because i was watching some stuff on the n f l network this way is a minute left yeah well british go back to pass it was just think that was shocked ye third all time on the time for sports talk appearances list here on the the set with eighty eight appearances and mike it is is so good to hear you you've been a big part of these twenty five years even though you haven't been on camera for about the last fenech yeah actually our very first ninety minute show that we did for the patriots in ninety seven i think we had just came down fifth which was our third anniversary show which by the way you mentioned steve from green bay got played the exact score super bowl thirty one right so you know what not all of our everything comes back in this is why it's perfect that the super bowl previews the anniversary show because kraft buys the patriots they go to all the super bowls we know we talk about all these anniversary shows and super bowl scores and things like that it's just all kind of part of the the anniversary tradition of the show you know to figure out just twenty five chrissy's thirty just got engaged you start to feel real although yeah  like four hundred cut that that that was very good well we've been talking we talk a little bit about peyton manning too yeah one of many ways i was listening to your guy from new orleans and first of all i want to tell i want to and i don't care about the dow i don't care about the rats i don't care but this latest thing that i saw where people are saying we should change the overtime rules that the patriots won the game in the chiefs to get the ball that's the rules you know that's the rules always in the rule get over it i get to watch the game i just want to be at the tail end of the game's over want to show it off and say hey that was fun and go on with my life well you know mike if history is any indication you said you're hoping for an exciting close game while being in the super bowl specially in the previous quarter point per game the average margin of the other forty four super bowls almost sixteen points so when the patriots are in the game it tends to be a blowout but when they're not when they are it's an exciting game so i think you're going to get your wish m well and i'm going to go back you know we're going to talk we're going to talk history here twenty five years ago when when you know we were sitting on the set in the old high school studio there with the first show and i think and we use i hope i see them win i think i think you've got to appreciate that this era is going to end sooner rather than later you're never going to see that again this is like the celtics of the sixty's this is a ridiculous ridiculous error of dominance and you just kind of appreciate if one it is and know that you know you're living in the good you're living in the good old days right now this is a good if they're ever going to get we're in the good place right mike you're in the good of a fight has a lot of free agency coming up i mean this one is a a very pleasant surprise and yeah i mean bla check in brady i mean we know they're going to be back next year as we see him celebrating after the a f c championship game and looking pretty happy together fun for someone right is supposed to be on a business trip i mean he's just like going against the grain and i think he realizes this is it and he's like i'm just going to enjoy this i'm going to do my dance and we all laugh are going to make jokes because i'm not going to be back so i'm probably ready to walk away i mean he's he's been talking about it long enough now and the truth is right and he's got a cap number next year that the patients are going to want to do keep so they're going to be going to be forced to take a pay cut and i think i'll just say forget the pay cut will take to make it couple of the rustlers he's actually showed up cheerful maybe oh yeah and i think i think he i don't think he'll be a first time but i think you see them as a special attraction there signing for a lot of money show up a few times a year and guys that i think would be really good is there any any possible way we could possibly get both t j hawkins and no off fine in the same at the same time  we could possibly get a couple of guys like that or what do you guys see the options grant because i think the options will be a downgrade at the position to be totally honest we have a picture of rock your score in his or coming up with one of those big catches in the a f c championship game against the chiefs i mean you know robert house key is going to end up going to the hall of fame in canton as well to patriot hall of fame someday and honestly i think anybody else they try to bring they don't have they don't it's not a big football town so there's no pushback so anybody that says the patriots are going to win there's nobody saying well wait a minute what about the rams it's just this is no pushback no one's pushing back against you know that's a tough spot miami yeah it is they don't know because they don't have quarterbacking they're not that good and i don't think ownership is really a know things now no he took that job because he can't turn it down there's only thirty two of them after this well he was saying to be nice if him and his brother win it together i mean he might retire very much wins of appear in the super bowl but i'm sorry he might retire when he might not like i don't know i don't believe it's a story side of the person on the right sneck that would be jason devon does not have i just figured the guy on the left had a much bigger smile and so that would have been like devon's like i've done a bunch of these before so you know yeah think a lot of people overlook in this game is i mean did you see the list of how many patriots have super bowl experience as opposed to the rams and you can't discount that that means a lot especially with this week with the media and in the coverage of the cameras in and all of that just that demand and yet i'm in the patriots have like thirty four there guys have gone through this and like for a four or six rams have gone right and they know it's a drill they know it's a on this day do well right they've been through it before there's actually a current patriot player that's been through it before winning the super bowl but he didn't do it with the patriots and you might be the only one peter who fits the categorical of the photo i got this just for you how we heard a loud but he's blocking one of his two p it up now and wonderful that there it is we just passed a yugo unfortunately unfortunately i can't get the channel down in atlanta right now so that's sort of that vote of rob but that's ok well that's right you're down the window but you're and you know you can kick field goals and your virtual reality and get a picture with the trophy so they they really cover really commercialise in it yeah get the dollars in the commercialization given how much you gotta pay to get those there's a lot of rams fans around but i've seen the small small grandstands around town so far at least it's definitely been out numbered by patriots fans probably three or four to one i would say kind of like the size of their r say probably twenty seven rams twenty four i mean it's you know this season feels a lot like the two thousand and one season a little different you don't have the surprise of the new quarterback but there has been a perfect season in the patriots seem to be clicking at the right time when the patriots were eleven in five that season too and of course we already mention that the games taking place seventeen years ago to the exact date february the third and it's the rams again although i really i like their chances but  rob it's always good to hear from you we can't wait to have you back in studio when you're a dad for the second time dad for the second time and dad for the last time never say never never you guys i will see you later in the spring hopefully enjoy your time down there rob commentary before we forget you want to just give us a score for the super bowl yeah i'm thinking thirty three twenty four pat ok remember if you're right you going to come down and host the show oh wow you gotta drive all the way from bedford i know it's a long hike that's all right we'll give you a per diem money sure absolutely do you think are very tired there's been a lot of talk about it he's been talking about himself the last couple of years you know he's a little seen playing a lot this year and he's been playing more lately but  thing yeah let's all go you still you will your brain isn't scrambled yet that's my biggest concern yep definitely well all of them are the injuries have been below the neck let's keep them that way and maybe it's time that maybe it's time to go  school students direct the show for a while too but those are those are a lot of the big names of course we meant jeff hansel who came out here but at the beginning of the show to do some introduction this by the way the microphone my kagan's mention is a long time volunteer linda smith the award winning right with the award winning there's the award you know so that's very special to us too and get our next show is going to be next month february but we don't have a date yet because we're still trying to light up a guest who we thought maybe could have been