of public health so water an order to be to meet state standards needs to have what's called for a log and activation of viruses basically boils down to the water needs to be in contact with chlorine for twenty minutes before its first user and we don't meet that right now so the project is to address that issue in addition to some proactive work that the water resources department has identified sense irene and other emergencies that that there's no standby power there so that if there's no power there's no water and  in the event of a flood like irene again they'll be able to access the water building the treatment building to make sure that the the well stays on it to make sure everything's functioning so the cost for the project is estimated with engineering contingencies to be a little over two hundred thousand dollars and that's for the corning contact and that includes i mean that includes the generator that includes again  depending on where it's located they range from like one point two million all the way up to one point eight million were some of the preliminary estimates and again those are those are based on  kind of a thirty thousand foot view view for lack of a better term and there hasn't been surveys done on sites we don't have we haven't secured land you know haven't committed to the numbers yet but that's the replacing bridge street water name that can wait replacing east main street one lane that you may potentially replacing due to a stream of grace i know you're going to write it down and you're going to market but but there are some things you've heard of the latter unfortunately can't wait and in addition to being a public health issue it's it's it's state regulations so and and because from out has primacy with the federal government it's really federal standards so the federal the federal environmental protection agency probably gate's specific thresholds are in specific regulations and the state of vermont is charged with in enforcing that if we don't do what is regulated within a period of time that span outlined by the state of her mind then we face potential enforcement action and what that means is that means court cases that means legal fees that means in foresman fines and you still have to do the work anyway so while it's it's crappy that it's all coming at once you know the reality is that the planning process takes time the construction of these things take time we're looking at least five or six years out for even for construction to be completed and probably a couple years after that to start paying on it there it's not like we're going to build this over the summer and we're going to start paying on it next year that's not how it's working so we're trying to put things in place so that we're planning for the future where yes the raises the increase is coming at all at once right now and that's unfortunate and had better choices been made over the past couple of years  raises wouldn't the wouldn't have come all at once it would have come gradually going forward the intent is for the raises and increases in the decisions to be made more prudently but the reality is we need to do this work  storage tank as we've discussed at numerous meetings it's that it's fifty part it's one hundred percent pass it's useful life it has it has state regulations that go along with that the chlorine contact time has its own regulations to go along with that we are trying to make decisions to reduce the cost meaning looking for alternative sites that maybe are that that we don't own right now we could go and put the storage tank on the site that we own right now but that's to be the highest cost option whereas we're looking to find an alternative site that is not owned by the town and that's our least costly option so we're trying to make good decisions with the choices that water task force committee is to come up with a couple of recommendations to the select the water and sewer commissions and also the select board on ways to share the costs among among the town but as as we know in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight it was to share the cost among the town was voted down so you know i guess the best the best thing i can say is talk to your non water system users and explain the situation to them and say we need help as a as a non water system user i know that i would be more than willing to tell my partner to write the check  utility in the sense of the way the state of vermont defines a utility is that the users don't have a say in the the budget the bonds the the anything they have no say in anything it's  shareholders decision or in some cases it's one person's decision on what the rates will be and in that case yes they do have to get a certificate of public good from the public service board and they have to then they're regulated by the department of public service any increases in what's called tariffs or any changes to their tariffs do need to go through the public service board but because municipalities are considered self regulating so that's a small very small piece  of the coin contact time project so i think i think your answers might get your question make any answer during the restaurant discussion because we are going to go ok well when you when you get a larger you're going to be dipping in digging it even deeper into the ground so that costs more we've got basically what we did is we we figured that the pipe diameter and the length that would be the most cost effective for the way that would take advantage of the existing hill and you know and so for ease of construction in the l there's a there's a bunch of different aspects that we looked at and made a final decision so to keep with time  direction the water and sewer commission is taking we are headed down the wrong path please understand that i strongly disagree with his belief that both should be unanimous all commission members and the public in general have a right to vote this right should not be questioned by christian and elected officials should be more sensitive to my right to vote and everybody else is right will not be little her strong on me or others to vote have he wants i shouldn't have to defend my vote to the commissioner who doesn't listen why i voted no i have been very clear from the beginning but since he didn't get what i said here it is i defend my vote against dublin the water and sewer rates because there was no plane and still is plane to help the elderly in our community who would be unable to pay the increased rates plan should be developed prior to rate changes not after you have shut off the water letter and my letter of response because the public should know how volunteers are treated by elected officials thank you for your service or review this is a bill that i wrote after our last meeting and i think really motivated by a lot of the same things that harold was talking about this is a big difficulty tha t we're talking about making for people who are on the water and sewer system and it's going to have all kinds of impacts but i think one of the things they're that people look to  elected officials or point to the shills like myself and carol is to spend the time and effort to really become familiar with the issue and figure out all the possible alternatives and to present what we think is meeting at the library deeply troubled i think we're heading down the wrong path and i'd like to have a conversation about it before going further i believe that whenever any town commissioner board makes a big city like dublin rates for customers it should be done by unanim s if possible i mean i understand that there's no requirement that that be done but this is something that i think where the public is looking to us for direction and knowing that we're asking a lot  them or we're asking for a big sacrifice that it really helps if the board can be unanimous by splitting the way that we did and the way that we split for those of those of you who weren't there don't  actually myself and amy voting for the change and person held voting against which meant that that of the people who voted for the majority of them were not on the system and i was very clear that i found that deeply troubling so i suppose splitting the way that we did we made a very difficult decision decision also politically weak and that doesn't bode well for richmond water and sewer system we need to do more to help people are going to have a hard time paying their water bills i think we need to have some kind of plan if we're going to double rates bruce and harold i need to understand why you voted against the rating crease and they're frankly i was caught by surprise at the time of the vote i'm not i have not been a member of the water task force so one a member of the commission i've not been a member of the group of people which includes ms riggs in lots of other people in the room of the meeting regularly on this my role as a member of the  water and sewage sewer commission is to understand the issues and to support the work of the task force when it when it comes forward in the task force did come forward with the specific recommendation a point that we had some back and forth on and we should made it clear that this was a deal breaker for you my understanding is that bruce's suggestion would have had a minor impact on the amount of the rate increase in that that would and that it would somewhat increase the risk of our needing to have another increase again soon which everybody wants to avoid to me these issues are less important than showing water and sewer system users that we are united harold i'm assuming that the set up to just it was not why you voted no because vote boyce your opposition to bruce's proposal at an earlier meeting so again i'm just trying to find out why they had voted no and in bruce's case i was assuming that it had to do with the septa jisshu the frankly i still don't know exactly better idea than the one that ashley and the working group have developed voting no without saying why and why up posing an alternative won't make the problem go away and it isn't fair to your fellow commissioners can  commission members who now have to take the rap particularly those of us who aren't even on the system i plan to reopen this discussion at our next meeting today and asked these questions again in public and i plan to move the vote on the ra issue increase item again if we can't find a way to agree to agree and vote together i don't think we should move forward now we may not be able to find a way to be unanimous about this but i feel that we owe it to us to to give some kind of clear guidance and to be able to work some of these issues out but we need to be able to come forward with what our concerns are and i don't feel like i know what those are now harold opted to take his concerns out of the room but bruce i'd like to until we get this fixed we don't need any new projects i'm sorry we can't afford to do for your three hundred families that are paying this three hundred cents not four thousand three hundred we can afford it we immediate crisis with with a revenue and expenditure today that we had to deal with its growth we're talking about the other projects because that wasn't an immediate concern and it's still not i mean we  still a couple of years out from constructing these things and even more on our own from paying them so i don't like we said we're not talking about paying them next week producing two hundred and you want to touch on on your first thing you talked about the suspected revenue we beat this horse i mean dead and upon kendall's recommendation upon looking where we are we are receptive to revenue and just didn't feel comfortable putting one hundred fifty thousand dollars which would have been a hundred percent anticipated revenue going into the into the revenue stream which is what we've been doing we've been putting two hundred thousand because that's what we were getting me down cast at the expected revenue to one hundred fifty thousand for f that's one hundred forty four thousand but some are lower you know i mean august april was fifty percent down from two thousand and twelve were april was eighty seven hundred dollars in revenue or the previous year were at eighteen thousand you know and so if we put all the hundred fifty thousand that we think we're going to gather that we hope we're going to get into the revenue stream and then we don't get it when the big shortfall the make up at the end of the year is pure and so then we just we we raise rates significantly at the end of the year i don't think that's a i don't think that that is a prudent decision to make when when when we have other choices where yes we could say you know what we're only going to two hundred thousand and correct the balance will go into capital so that maybe next year we can reduce the amount of capital this is this is a new world right now with our septa drive and you know is if we were at two hundred thousand and if we were raking it in and then sure put a hundred fifty put one hundred seventy five that no problem but we're into supporting hundred fifty and grieving down from that and so i and the task force and frankly the commissioners didn't feel comfortable based on candles recommendation to if you were to add and under another it thirty thousand into the revenue stream that wouldn't that makes a difference for those for the base rider side of thing that makes a difference of like twenty with the water thing very much we're talking about by the difference like to move the tank to well maybe we need to look at something different on that get a piece of land up there is going to cost us a big chunk of change i don't agree with you completely have to say though that the town's incredibly lucky and commission's incredibly lucky in having ashley who's a professional really understands this in a way that i certainly don't and i think th you know most people don't because we don't do this for a living and has really brought these issues to the fore we don't miss that as we would like the answers that we get but you know i've i've been through these numbers and a lot of other people have been through these  with all the other requests for information that you just mean that this is this is nuts and then we started last week or last month or even this year you know there's nothing i mean we're all   to move forward and while i certainly agree we need to find a way to do more for people who are who are getting hit really hard with the with the rate increase we don't have after months and months of work a better way of covering the financial obligations of the water system and what my my email to you in heroes was about leadership are we going to stand up and help people work through for making up for expenses that have already been incurred we have to pay we've got a clear view so and to clarify the new stuff the chlorine contact in the room in generator and tank would be a whole separate bond  that is not happened yet and frankly i don't think anybody has an appetite i don't think anybody on the on this commission really has an appetite for doing that type of bomb mode until we have a broader discussion about how doctors pay for  revenue fifty fifty between water and waste water is then is then said you'd only be doing thirty or forty thousand dollars to sewer in thirty forty or fifty thousand dollars fifty thousand dollars to one hundred fifty thousand wastewater you know there there are that there is there are some ways to reduce that but not without taking a huge cut and a huge  we knew we were going to have to make some drastic changes and there there was no suggestions no recommendations no ideas on on what to do about it we could do you know we can propose a two dollar surcharge on everybody that goes into a file just like they do with the electric company but nothing was recommended i honestly i heard the silence was deafening and this is so frustrating to to to not have any constructive feedback except we can't do a future projects because that doesn't help the current problem right and i appreciate speaking and reminding me of that wanted your support and you were part of the task force and i and i hope that you were part of the conversation you were part of the conversation and it disappointed me that that you didn't do a no vote because i thought that we had all agreed that this was the time of one of our meetings where one of your mission emirates along with another member that sat in on the meeting that we were told the water was on going under the boats through the parking lot was already allowed a lot of core in the budget so that is why we move forward on the project we did not anticipate or planning on saying rates were going up because of that  and and it again is not that it's not a good idea i'm going on the recommendation of the task force again ok and certainly on ashley's recommendations well and and it and it makes as somebody who who gets involved in electric grid design from a from a theoretical perspective makes sense to me too but if we postpone doing it it does mean that the impact in the next year on repairs rates is reproduced far but i think we need to that something has to be the best we can do but then we've got to move forward and we're going to have to spend the money we've got to pay your bills we hear this agree on th and i apologize but this seemed like we needed to have this conversation and if so can we because we have we have three minutes can we prove those was there was there substantial changes i  the only thing i had was on it was on i think it was the twenty ninth just it was a line page to whom should have written it down it was can i get it was it was basically like miss the number was the year was run on when we had the townie exactly it was nine hundred ninety eight yeah that was the only substantial change that i had budget this budget has good news and it has not so good news some of the good news is that this budget is down two hundred forty thousand dollars or two point seven percent we've been really trying to cut spending over the last few years as a matter of fact this budget is four hundred seventy six thousand dollars less than our f y o nine budget so including increases to joran says things like that we've been able to cut  there's some bad news in this budget in one was we get hit last year with a persistent herbicide episode that cost us when we're all said and done nearly eight hundred thousand dollars we found the reason for it we've come up with solutions where heading forward but it's a you know no budget takes me a hundred thousand dollar hit without trying to dig out of it and the other issue is kind of again sorry for the parity  good news bad news is our trash production in chip in county is at its lowest in the last fourteen years which is pretty amazing over recycling a lot more anywhere composting a lot more now the bad news of that is is this dilemma we're in about one third of our revenues comes from my beyond trash less trash less fee that we collect not much on like what the state had to deal with with the whole issue of the gas tax issue you know people are driving less that's a good thing but we still need to improve the infrastructure in therefore we need to raise things so that's what that does him but i want to make a little distinct we have to increase o solid waste management fee we normally do that we try to do that every five years but because of the compost and the reduction in our projected times weeks we expect the times to actually fall even faster simply because a private sector jeff myers is building a can a construction in demolition recycling facility in colchester it's under construction now in what he intends to do with that is what we did it to single stream recycling just put it in a container and they'll sort it out recycle what they can that's folks that come on line to temper first of this year so in x good thing we've given him feasibility grants as well as initial permuting grants because that's our mission is to try to turn what's a waste into a commodity that's what he's doing that's what we've done we've got post as we've done recycling on on another fact that may impact richmond we are nothing to do with the other ones much but we are raising our drop off center fees are this is will after six years again health insurance and things we've made some cuts as much as we can but we're going to raise their fees so if you go to the richmond drop off center and you normally paint three in a quarter it's going up fourteen per cent and we hope to hold that for another five years so fourteen percent over six years is not bad but it's you know it's a cost of doing business so it's go to speak the other thing that may impact richmond as we're expecting a decrease in your biosolids right now all your waste water sludge goes to coventry and we're investigating in negotiating a facility in new york's a little further away but a little cheaper  beneficially reuse it we're getting some pushback from some folks on the environmental piece of it and so we won't go with that contract until we're done researching but we're in the midst of the doing that that's kind of an overview i have a highlights page i can go through it or it's fairly easy to be self i can answer questions and i don't mean to speed up and get you know going to hurry up and leave i will answer any questions that you may have question  market value recyclables what's going on with soft little softer thank you for the question a couple years ago we look at it as a weighted average we sell i mean we sell aluminum for  high as sixteen hundred dollars a ton sometimes two thousand dollars a ton we sell makes plastic for as low as zero and maybe in a good week as high as fifty dollars a ton glass glass if we're lucky we get five right now we're down into the ninety's and we expect it to continue to fall the big thing is seventy five rephrase that fifty percent of what we still recycle today is paper and twenty five percent isn't is cardboard and cardboard one kind of holding its own but paper is not we're now at the lowest level we've seen newspaper and other than a quick dip in the recession but steady winds were seen as low as we have in the last five or six years and we think it's because china's economy is slowing down as is europe's and with it it's you know nest the hard part about what about what we do our cardboard could go to china could go to canada our steel could go anywhere in the world i mean it sounds funny but it that's the way it is or our plastic now is going to be you know in been sorted and she is in there the world economy is soft right now we don't we're not looking at it as a hardest part of our worldwide markets is the yogurt cups the plastic the three through seven plastics we're having a real difficulty with them you know there's i said there's days we'll get zero there's days we get fifty dollars we work harder on that little bit of plastic and one of the things we're looking at in our capital budget is technology we may have to sort of and i don't have a prop here but it's awful hard to pay american labor to flip over a younger container going to zap five were three you know less really sure yes well we don't know so the eight hundred thousand is net we expect some from now but it's net of that and we have sued from up league of cities and and we're in where my day to day duties in a year and a half will pretty much then they're going to find somebody else to take my place and that's good and go off fishing and do other things  just for you understand the voting you can vote for it that we appreciate it if you vote against it you have to give us a specific reason why you voting against writing and if you don't feel like july sixth and it's assumed a positive downtown program it's through the agency of commerce i think tonight because i'm hearing that there are some wonderful things that are happening here in richmond kind of two things well actually three just to remind you what benefits you have currently as a designated village center and to see that there let you know that there is another local if it is something that the community would like to achieve that's fine if you are happy price that's creating and katelyn is here to talk a little bit about the start tax credits which is probably your primary benefit as a designated coalition or so because going from state government we always have to bring guys might want to consider and i'll let caitlin expound upon that when she talks and that's about creating a historic district but again i would do it because there may be some additional benefits for it but no other reasons in there and it's not hard or theory and it's not anything that you've got a you know leap tall buildings with a single barrel is very easy the next step is something that we call downtown designation really what  it is is main street and if you ever get a chance google it it's part of the national trust restored preservation my mind and i'm a little prejudice because i've been working in the field the main street for almost eighteen years i think it's the greatest economic development program ever bar man works in four basic areas design which develops the physical environment of your downtown no matter what the size of it as  in a positive life and i say grow some people get scared doesn't mean you're making crazy scary stuff means he's keeping your downtown economically vibrant and strong and if none of that is interesting to you and you're happy just developed center my final comment is we do have a network we have currently twenty four designated downfalls were these are the communities that follow me st and we do a lot of networking together and if standard want to join in and come to any of our networking meetings and learn from some of our other downtown executive directors that you know kind of a mentoring about the two different tax credit programs and minister one is the federal program that we have minister in partnership with the national park service and then the other is the state historic tax credit program i'm going to start really basic you probably already know this but i never assume that people understand what a tax credit is a tax credit is not a grant and it's not like a tax deduction when you're doing your taxes and you deduct things it's an actual dollar for dollar credit what you own taxes so if you are allocated a tax credit of five hundred dollars and you five hundred dollars in taxes your tax bill with the zero dollars so it's better than a tax deduction  start off by talking a little bit about the federal program as i mentioned it's administered by the park service it's a twenty percent tax credit on a qualified rehabilitation of a historic building and that work could include the interior renovations including systems electrical that kind of thing and even including architect these does not include demolition site work additions or pictures now to qualify for the national or for the federal program to building has to be income producing so it's not available for private home owners but it could be used for a rental apartment building the rehabilitation has to be what's considered substantial and the way that that is determined by the park service is that it will need to spend more than the adjusted basis of the building which is basically the value of the property or the building minus the value of the land so it's just the building itself the building also needs to be listed in the national register of historic places and this is where mentioned earlier about creating a national register historic district if the building is a contract contributing structure to that district then it is qualified so buildings can be either listed individually or as part of a district and many many towns in vermont have  downtown national register districts it's a great way for them to take advantage of the federal program because all those buildings within that core are already prequalified for the hermit and then finally the work needs to meet preservation standards it is a conservation program so the state tax credit program is meant to work in partnership with the federal program but there are some key differences as liam mentioned it's a benefit of being a  village center so the one big thing is to qualify for state historic tax credits your property needs to be within the boundaries of that village center again it needs to be encouraged producing  the other thing that differs from the federal program is that unfortunately there's a cap on how much credit we can give out each year with a federal program if you qualify and you apply for the program and have an improved application they have unlimited tax credits to give out here in vermont we have a cap and this coming year we have about one point seven million in credits to give out so it does tend to be a competitive process there are also different tiers of credits available through the state program the first is called the ten percent historic credit and this is tied directly to the federal program you have to have an approved federal application to qualify and it  this credit it's basically an additional ten percent on your state taxes for all the same costs and that you can get a federal credit if you don't qualify for the federal program building and it's a twenty five percent credit on your investment you must spend a minimum of five five thousand dollars on your project and then the credit is capped at twenty five thousand dollars and then the final tier of credits that servers that are available in the state program are fifty percent code credits i think these are by far the most popular obviously fifty percent it's half your investment return so that includes things like installing a sprinkler system or an elevator or a left in your building and then also additional code work that you might need to do to bring your building up to current building codes including electrical improvements plumbing this matrix which lays out all the different tiers of credits and the cast associated with them because it is a lot of percentages and numbers that i throw out and overwhelm people with when i talk about this one last thing i want to mention about the state program that differs from the federal program is that you can actually still sell your state credits so if you didn't owe a lot of money in taxes maybe you you know what are you going to do with a tax credit you can sell your credit to a bank or an insurance company usually at a slightly reduced rate but that would give you cash to either pay off a loan you might have had to take out to do a building improvement or to reinvest into another project on your building we find usually that we have most success with local banks because they're familiar with the program but you can shop it around and sell it to anyone who would be willing to buy it so as i mentioned earlier the tax credits the state tax credits are competitively awarded the deadline for the next round of applications is actually coming up very soon it's on july first so if anybody in the room knows of a building here in richmond that might qualify and be interested in applying for the credits now's your chance the application itself is not not too difficult certainly something you could fill out on your own and i also have my contact information on this so  are always the most successful the most vibrant there there is always that additional need that we need to downtown will create cars restaurants and shops and people like to be able to live in work and  from the last piece of property and that i agree with me is just a little case study that we did recently that we put together this is about hard work and it just shows hardwick's done several very impressive tax credit creepy the organization that the nonprofit that would be responsible for the revitalization of your community if you already have it and it may be something you might want to consider because the benefit that you receive that you continue to have your tax credits you will have more points towards any state grant which makes you more competitive and finally all here getting the downtowns have access development review board so many words yet it already looks at stuff so it shows your commitment to proper clearing within your community of the organization which it could be any work in a situation as a law or it could be a municipal you pointed commission as long as their purpose is the economic well the being of the downtown area then there is some additional hoops you're going to have to jump through with qualifications on water and this and see to answer your question what kind of because it would take a quick together an application the application could be made at any time probably the hardest part though is working with the designated organization because part of that patient has to be there we're calling it what is it that you plan to do it so you know there's no point in doing any of this if everybody just sort of gets together and figures ok it's designated it's all going to be good now no there's actually a program of work that goes along with that and that's probably the hardest part to this article if yes because it's ongoing maybe looking for funding sources to keep things going or planning projects still some saying if someone is going to do a new building or completely look at a redesign of their structure is there something that's going to review that secretary of interior standards and those types of things if you want that test track so but just because you are in business now basically sort of like with the village center if you don't want to do anything we'll ignore you that's fine but there is that there's a few things that every designated downtown we would require you to turn it into every single year there are plans for example we also ask that you keep  keep track of certain statistics like how many new jobs have been created what kind of public investments type of private investment is going on just so that we can look at the measures of success and you can look at the measures of s there going so there's a few more his staff to jump through but we don't look at it at least i try not to because my background is not in government it is in it is in main street and marketing and those types of things so what we're trying to her floors they're showing that they have basically invested back into their building and into their community and then the amount of public and investment that could be everything in this is within the downtown so it could be everything from looking at you know replacing sewer lines and five walks to did we do a new green space you know those types of things of  wait we're missing a b and c it's not like the whole thing throws back to you that just gives us a little bit more time and we may say ok instead of being reviewed this month let's review it the next month but let's make sure that the application  really particularly good job because they did it where it was something you can download onto your i phone or get a cd and put it in your car or be able to put the you know your buds and walk around in here a guided tour and apply for  districts that would allow you to qualify for the federal tax credit program having a c l g grant could help you do that nomination couldn't you said surrogates i'm thinking as long as we see in this is where the work plan that we see attached to the application is saying yes we're working on it and you know when they should be done by such and such a date and articles of incorporation so we tend to apply for the i picks and then a little bit of improvement of sidewalk in front of the village market here really street the apartment you know explain why we're why we're rolling these all together into one project as we go through this  with the railroad tracks running here and the dentist's office was a parking lot in the center so the yellow lines if you can see the yellow lines up here on the property lines of the townhome property this is of the dentist office and actually it's the dentist property lines are not exactly as they are shown on the strong come out to the south about ten feet further than want to show so we're working with the dentist to make a boundary line adjustment to get those property lines up conforming with what he occupies and opening up some space for the town improvements in the lower section depots tree so plus some part protection down the end of the parking configuration that we're proposing and this plan is a result of several meetings with tower staff and economic development commission we've kind of massaged this into what you see here it started out as a more square pattern of arson and for various reasons we've changed to this change a park so you commune on one way entrance on the northern lead to the right the very end in the corner of the river across the mesas little jaw there are four square spaces because they just don't lend themselves well in that location to be an angle there'll still be the tracks the town has been fortunate enough to get a grant from the state of vermont which is attributable to green drange meaning drainage concepts that are different than or more environmentally sensitive than the typical flow into a ditch flow into a catch basin flow into a place so we can change the general pattern of drainage on this site still wants to trade to the south but what we've come up with is on the length of this angle parking area the rain garden between the parking and the railroad property it varies in which from four feet eight feet depending on whether it's in front of the square spaces or the angle and into the crushed up and for storage and absorption into the sandy ground which that is sandy ground and then these little areas that you see hatched here here qualify for this state grant for green green stuff that will be of benefit to us in terms of the finances of this project i told you earlier that we're going to roll these three elements of the water the parking and improvement of the sidewalk in front of the market into one construction contractor and that is because we have to deal with the railroad for all these different things we're doing the first thing we need is an easement to put the waterline on railroad property down here the piece of the road is now on the road properties are sitting water linus on the river of property in the sewer process railroad property the water wants to be on a road property and we have to get either an easement or a lease in order to do that because there's a couple of high spots in it right now that prevent it from flowing the way it should if i read are worth mentioning both were exceeded in capacity by a downpour the water will these big thunder showers we have when it rains really hard for a short period of time i think these features will probably be overtaxed for a very prepared time in the water will go into that dish so we want to try to make that pitch work as well as we can so there another thing we have to do under the property and then lastly on the sidewalk down in front of the village market we've decided that we want to minimize to the extent that we can the distance where possible and pedestrians have as much to the extreme safety as we can provide for them and so we looked at it in the field and said well free stuff the sidewalk about here next to that railroad suitable sign that be about the right one key structure we do it three separate projects we get hit with three sure so that's the rationale for  this island in the middle is proposed to be incurred the edges are a garden on the edge of the fringe strain also proposing occur every eight feet the curved line will be depressed to a lot of some other kind of plant that i don't remember right off the top of my head to get put into syria and then of course the radar gets quite an extensive a ray of plants some small trees and down through this area  this loop sectioning here is for a merger vehicles that might want to pull in quite the garbage truck trash truck we can expect them to come around the end and make this type corner suited to maintain a larger radius turn in the area of the eastern part of the island there so the larger trucks can get through and i think that about covers if you have any questions i'll try to answer i was to the railroad the process they tell us can take six to eight weeks just about ready to send things into them we want to make sure that we touch of all the various boards and groups in town and we had a plan that everybody could stand behind and then we want to send that into the river because you don't know when i have to go back to them later with changes you joe so i would say from about now after six weeks minimum to get their approvals and invited the parking lot into or those to that street to a meeting so that they could actually see what he did have a limb an airy dryly and answered all the questions and they had some great moments and i think that they were really happy that they were asked to come to the meeting but contact and he's really not the one we go through for all these rules of the speedo but he's a down to earth practical sort of guy he really liked the plan he liked everything that we're going to do to reduce the water to the railroad and there as opposed to putting in a bunch of new like standards because that just drives things out of the sky with cost so we have a power pole here which i don't think we put lights way down there but there's another one here and another one here one here so there may be opportunities to put some some decent looking architecture a week pleasing code meeting cut off type lights on those pools of those locations to help eliminate the parking to some degree why don't you start by talking a little bit about your interest in the in the project and maybe your background some other items you worked on the most recent thing that i did with the talent with wright and john was to be a member of the charter of revision committee we are and we proposed a change from  with the governance using a town administrator to a town manager which was exciting and interesting and successful soul it's work that i enjoy i think it's work that's we can look at a process for a look at a whole bunch of process season come up with one that beats the town needs and voters needs and i think we've all done our job for the next couple months or a few months were active is a tremendous resource we look at what other towns did we asked for contact to the other towns we wanted to find out what their successes and failures were what their challenges were how they overcame and i suspect that they can still remain as a resource for us the committee got along simply well everyone comes to the table with their own ideas their own perspective and we we discuss it we talk it out and not all of us agree on each and every point but we always reach a consensus at least we have in the past so all you know of the challenge to the i think is find out what the process is right said is going to work best for richmond so i need to get more familiar with what we're doing right now more familiar with what other towns are doing and then we'll come up with a proposal or see if that is better than what we have was a real estate agent developer and i had my own insurance agency we combined all those functions together that worked pretty well so that's a long time ago i hope it will be a battle of paul is elected better than appointed and that's a nice philosophical discussion of democracy but that's not really practical for the coming to a correct decision council we generally refer to craig as well as the owner of this it was identified in a two thousand and nine face to environmental study by the regional planning commission i think it  of was off people's radar for many years although there's been very claims as to whether or not to take care you get it or not the ammonia was used as part of the fridge ration system for the cheese building but it's not capable of keeping anybody you know we have some anecdotal evidence that kids and other people come in and out of the building on the regular basis for whatever reason whether it's a thrill just place to hang out to been tampered with and that has begun to get on the people's radar especially residents in the village members is what we're received many phone calls about it i've received phone calls about  it and we've got to understand just how risky and how deadly this ammonia could be and really what the problem is you know there was there was a thought that it would take tens of thousands of dollars to re emergency health order that would be issued by right that would provide a period of time to get that served on the order find out what their response is there is no satisfactory response or is no effort on their part to get the so they have their own protocol for being quite concerned in notifying the land we have not heard from the fire marshal young or i have not maybe you have right now they have to produce a report which they have not copied is supported on concrete pillars the rest of the building is precarious and the steel viking is rusted to part of the roof fell on it it might rupture  that that's a good sign hopefully it's true after he gets the order that should be a compelling reason to follow through with all of those estimates and hopefully will be a continuing contact and he'll tell me somebody is going to take people you know give me a date something we can verify that doesn't happen we have to be prepared to go to the next is and i think there might be some interest in pursuing the community rating system that some point while at the same time we're struggling to understand what's an appropriate level of regulation  so it's hard to put all that in context but i think part of the request was before the planning commission got ready to present a revised flood plain regulations so what word might want and yet we have three hundred candidates who put their names forward for that position is that something we want to do you want to have that done right away do you want to four that went through three right now in a free we have three other candidates i think to be fair we have put all three names forward open for nomination and i'm not sure why this is on the agenda to be honest and i am not sure why i mean i understand one organizational meeting to discuss recent history but in terms of delaying the work that's been going on for three months will go inside this extension this ten foot extension and get essentially similar coverage to what the rising is now so if you ever if you're an eighteen t customer i suspect if you lived in richmond you might not be because you have some pretty poor coverage the complaints about going down the interstate and dropping appalled when you come down going to the richmond elementary school like i did for an odyssey of the mind tournament and trying to call people to beat up doesn't work and even here it's really not very good so this is a first step this was not the only site that a t t looked at we looked closely at trying to put antennas on one of the transmission structures that are on the other side of i don but the coverage just doesn't do it justice up and still be drops so we looked for a long time what we thought what eighteen t thought was going to happen was they were going to purchase t mobile but that deal fell through if they added they would have vehicles come into contact they're going to see generator the generator of like a lot of generators has a kick task that goes for about thirty minutes a week and we always time it so it takes place during the day not at night where it could bother people but the jet but other than that that pick test it would only really go on if there's an extended period of i think so far the only thing the that we've well let me back up the reason that we're doing it recommendation from a municipality and those recommendations in turn are to be based on land development measures like a town planning you are including a telecom ordinance like you have in richmond so what we will typically do is ask the towns for recommendation after sort of explaining compliance with the various land documents and in this case what i would say is the main feature is that it's stuff which is probably the thing that jumps out in your or you really can't see it now are some people going to be able to tell that it's a silo filled with antennas probably and i would suspect a lot of people know that now but it's still better at the end of the day than a brand spanking new tower right on the floodplain at least in really the right space to be and to have everything work you know for people either using the interstate or using most of the sort of secondary roads in between those two places so what we're asking for is a recommendation if you were to we're going to plan to come to the planning commission meeting as well and we'd be happy to take any questions on the only other thing i'll add is that so far the only thing that we've heard all under the two forty eight day procedure all neighbors get the same packet that we sent you we got  sure so to do in the first or what happens as we're in what we call the forty five day notice period you've probably seen similar projects from the tail of the companies like the electric or so what happens is during this f day period we accept input we meet with towns we wait to hear from the regional planning commission we're looking for a need the recommendation either to approve the project approve it with some sort of conditions like or just even concerns that you want us to address when we go before the public service court or hopefully not to disapprove of the project once we have that at the end of the forty five day period we file with the public service for all the adjoining property owners and the town will have a twenty one day comment period from the point at which we file and then forty five days from from that will usually the public service or there's no objection and while construction plans change like they do everywhere i know that the plan is if this is approved this year they would like to build  this year and the only missing piece that i would say of our application so far we have most materials that we need but they're doing a very detailed structural report and are probably going to have modifications inside the silo mainly because what's up there now was approved under one building code the building code change so we're going to extend another ten feet we're going to bring it into focus lines not to say that there's any problem with that now it's just that the code became scripter and and it's more  is looking for approval from the tail i would suggest that we wait until we get comments from the planning commission and unless you have anything pressing at the moment that you would like to  after each town meeting the regional planning commission has their own two year cycle right so we need to reappoint this is the chance to change appointments if you want to keep the  so yeah jeff if you wanted to get out of that i'd be happy over the ultimate think you mean you th that it could or should take out one of those oh yeah that's the one you're looking for now i have another page five line and it's anything else a minute yet ph who are lying seven i just wanted to add a little bit for the i nominate when i nominated someone just because we have a little blurb on each person that got nominated i just wanted to add in there because she served on the planning commission before and is focused on the here is where we are female has said that the applicant which is the town passed to satisfy in section one or six review of alternatives to the bio so the program that we applied to is called the hazard mitigation grant program for what's called an acquisition by where i position demolition where the the town would the quire the property and demolish the structure and clear the floodplain of any obstruction since this home was listed on the state's stor register as said you have to do section one zero six for review which means you examine alternatives to the demolition work and up until this point it's been sort of a as to what these alternatives were  almost two months ago where we tried to examine alternatives and figure out what was going on and after that meeting we thought that we had examined the alternatives  but it turns out female wasn't happy the state wasn't happy with how we examined it so we have a meeting on thursday with female state representatives and local representatives of myself carol brown to try to figure out what needs to be done to satisfy the section under six review and how how the town can provide the answers to the questions to address that review to the satisfaction of state up until this point presentation for march has been participating in the section one or six review i don't know if they're going to continue could have one or two select board members present but the goal of meeting is to find out what exactly we need to do to satisfy the wanted six process and then identify a way for the town to be able to complete that process  fema saying you know it's not just up to us to be able to do it for you to do it we have no technical assistance really to understand what needs to be done so we're looking for some guidance what we're doing here is enough to get the patients and the application right now is in the hands of the state states not forwarded to fema primarily because they believe to be rejected because we haven't completed  financial report of the finances are overall very good you can see that it's no taxes i think we're right now or we're ninety eight percent but that's including some delinquent tax because that's the way they are for now but there's still a few more weeks for the resume to try to get the tax revenue or other revenues or a pretty good we're behind in charges for goods and services but i noted that we have to charge the waterfront were two thousand dollars will be above projected on that also the c e o s you billing for the rick reno's time is as collected and once we get that will be over on police revenue and or interest income is  the other equipment if you buy a different car we bought the what we call the the chevy caprice that had that was totally different we can use any of the equipment from right the former  d the checkered past british that was open three weeks ago we had the grand opening they've finished the bridge i think but they haven't paved were eagerly awaiting that closure road that probably won't start until september and we're also going to do a maintenance coat on bridge street which is not meant to really fix anything other than make it the ri updates development review board accepted a stipulated agreement that should put an end to the the current legal over ten years it started out as a reparative board and it's gradually expanded its function and reaches center currently has a full time director and a part time clerk the funding for this program comes from the state of correction occasion cases are heard by our board involving citizens from your community with this in mind the rules to look for us need to extend an invitation for interested citizens from your community to apply for possible membership on this board this is of course a 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