at this point you can open the floor for public testimony anyone wish to testify at this moment they may come forward or you can wait for the agenda item comes up you can do one or the other now both commission here to have any nomination and the other nominations you guys know that she's not president right now just for the record you get a job commission because those i can say with i grew up in a family of seven and whoever wasn't there got the short end it's just the way it is and the surrounding land is currently vacant june thirtieth twenty sixteen the one advisory committee held the public hearing for this project on behalf of do and after due consideration recommended when a commission approved the use of this rather also from our office is when the era we also have some of the county department of environmental management deputy director michael leo moto and the project planner yes what we're doing is the purpose of this application is to bring them a car i harm a landfill which was close around two thousand and three into compliance with federal and state environmental regulation  would remove all scrap metal to be hauled to a recycling center and also the mccurry so once completed cleanup is completed it would be landscape with grass in terms of the history of the project to date on january twenty third two thousand and sixteen a chapter three forty three environmental cement and finding of no significant impact was determined and published in the office of environmental quality controls environmental notice a challenge period ended without an appeal being filed on february twenty second two thousand and sixteen then on march first of this year we filed a special management area use permit with the planning department april twelfth two thousand and sixteen the planning commission designated the hon advisory committee as the hearings body under special management area permit and on june thirtieth two thousand and sixteen to one advisory committee held the public hearing in which i think you have copies of the minutes of the hearing three persons testified at the hearing no one in opposition of the project also the committee one hundred virus the commission committee recommended fourteen conditions to be applied they added condition number fourteen which dealt with using native plants  for the landscaping after the closure and it's important to note the landscaping is going to be limited to grass also on july fourteenth two thousand and sixteen of this year our office filed a conditional use permit application with the department of land in archer resources in terms of medication measures related to the s m a permit there is an archeological modern  plant that would be implemented during the removal of the waste material there also will be construction pest management practices applied that were control erosion control measures temporary retention basin for drainage during the time of the removal there also after they get to the bottom of the removal they will do some soil testing to make sure that there are no contaminants left within the soil and then they would continue what right now all the groundwater monitoring that's currently occurring at the one a landfill the next step that we are looking at is action by the maui planning commission and after that  is completed we would also then go before the board of land and natural resources for the conservation district use permit at this time call ali moore horizon he can explain that remove it and bring it back to the natural conditions and planted with natural native plants and this is the overall here's basically shows the bottom of the landfill where probably three to five years slowly we're going to remove the trash we tarp it every day as we remove it so we don't have to deal with the rainwater that impacts or touches the degrees over here so we couldn't really see the bottom of it is an area that we will be removing all the large material for recycling and anything that is used it will go to back to the active landfill in general the landfill is pretty healthy meaning it has oxygen in it because there's a lot of plants growing and it's very active in plant growth normally in landfills there are the boards here where he will be hard for me to put them on if you have any questions or other information the advisory board asked to use native plants but we're going to use just grass so if we're using just grass is that going to be a maintainer just going to let it be a natural girl i believe i believe on a landfill site personnel they are maintaining the landscape there so i don't think it's going to be just grass growing wild thing you know they will do some maintenance on it on occasion native plants for use as replacement for education rather than a requirement mind questions actually to the director and maybe even core counsel is and this is not application specific but more it's to the conversation we had a couple of weeks ago and that being commission a guy she has brought up you know the fact we have these outstanding estimate permits from forever and we don't really know so i guess my question to the director and core principle is can we put in to the s m a just a condition that is the department will send a communication to the commission when this permit is satisfied you know england when it's when we have our flight final compliance report and we just get a communication saying that that stuff is that i mean this is again it's not specific to this particular application but it's more of a general question construction maybe completed six seven years and years out from it is granted so i'm not purpose in this particular instance of so for the satisfaction of the department the project will be completed in five years after the date of its initiation so five years from now general question commissions will change the funding department whoever succeeds me a lot of staff will be here five years from now they will want the they're the one that's why these are written can you know bring it back to the commission at that time  electronic mapping of the bottom and you can see we also looked at the present still u s g s maps and based on that information in this topic graphic conditions today is less than one hundred thousand cubic yards and from that approximately about ten thousand to twelve thousand cubic yard will be to do that is sitting on top of it and the rest will be the material that we are going to be removing and as below it up to approximately an average of ten feet so the answer to your question is less than a hundred thousand in this dimension including ten thousand cubic yards or so ok so they're going to have to shut down not to meet their regulations since we continue now that the landfill his base is in not in compliance with the current regulations or both monitoring or closures and and reported for another thirty ten feet down at what level will you hit it was basically more or less most landfills near the water approximately sea level plus or minus you see because there's a we're probably at least ten something even in the lowest point from the water so that's where you're going to start putting the line and actually we're not going to do any inlining we're just going to remove the trash maginot with trash and some dirt on top we'll just going to remove it and leave it as it was when we started than there is no other work it's pretty simple with that practices will be utilized to adequately meditate any potential environmental effects the department recommends approvals subject to pork standard conditions and ten projects specific conditions condition that the advisory committee recommended be changed to consider to use rather than required so you need to make a decision on that and then needed we have asian grass in the area i'm sure we i mean we have it we do have native any new vegetation and the grass is just existing and therefore i think it should comply with the condition i don't want to change their condition unless you really need to and any comment on that grass that considered vegetation do you see any issue with this number fourteen of you not being able to comply with it i don't see a problem it could be there was some communication that may be hard to ocean and cetera the requirement for native seeds native vegetation i don't know that native grasses would be any better or worse than you know other things normally used for this man so that the revenge attention certainly is would be related to the special management area of the native species i'm whether there is a native grass that can be used in the hunt on landfill and elaine baker as a project engineer has been contacting david the coda who is molly county arborist with the parks department and we have not been able to come up with a native grass other than our key archey grass which grows in the sand along the beaches so that's why i think it's important you know what michel our council ha totally agree with mr robinson my buy reason why i would like to see a change from shell to shooting is this is very very restricted chute means you're going to do the very best you can you going to explore all the possible native grasses and the greed of the grass is available or if the needed grass that you plan doesn't take you still have an option to vegetate visiting the area on you know to prove this based on the language i recommend a bike or council i just would like clarity as to what exactly the new language is i mean i get the concept of what exactly is the new language that i'm going to be voting on and just to repeat i recommend to change condition fourteen to the following that the applicant shall considered native plants for use as replacement vegetation something i think i would think that's what their intent is they don't want to have a new type of grass come in it might know because of it was a land so it might progress strong rough ass so i don't know if there's another word on that native or native other discussion culpable director came a priest a motion please ok the motion is to approve the estimate from it with a modification of the very last condition to say that the applicant shall consider using native and your as may sometimes report and i will know since last meeting we have circulated emails around to staff to go in and close you know it was done memorandum in opposition and if you haven't received those already work we will order them to  we will so just a note for the record item number c is going to be good for to next meeting our next regular meeting it's august twenty third