and we married we lived here ever since well actually the reason i came down here was after world war two and i had taken advantage of the g i bill so i went to university of maine incidentally where i met jo i really didn't want to or couldn't afford to buy a lobster boat and traps in all out so i couldn't do that and finally i didn't want to be a guard at the maine state prison it happened to be in my hometown in maine so i had a friend of mine who works down here for a company and and he said once you come down there interviewing people who work and so i did and that's how i landed down here in boston well i graduated from high school in  early part of forty three i think it was february january february another kid and i went up to paul on to enlist in the navy and we were told the quota was full and we were really disappointed i found out later on if we'd gone on the train and come on had come down to he said there's no and then when you get to paul undertake a physical if you pass then you can select a branch of service you prefer but there was no guarantee that branch of service would take you there so what happened was i  room a big room and there's a chair in the middle of the room and there's a long table with all these offices of various branches of the service and my job was to sell myself to the to the navy lieutenant that was there and why i was able to do it because in the boy scouts in my hometown our systems felt master had been in the navy during world war one and he had an amateur radio take it and i had already got an amateur radio take it all over the place well at the end of the war i got three ribbons one of them was the will war two victory ribbon everybody got and then i had another ribbon for central pacific duty and from there it was figure out what that was for because i didn't have any duty on the atlantic coast or the pacific coast or anywhere else and finally i figured it out that's because i got through newport rhode island basic trying it without getting a ta me through for the first two hours but he didn't do it he said good bye i'm going i'm going to be discharged so you know i see you on it or destroyer from your from the well yeah this is this ship as compared to a normal destroyer which way to wait around twenty two hundred tons this weighed about half of that twelve hundred tons these ships over five hundred ohm well built room will want to amazing and they were designed primarily for conway to do mostly in the atlantic ocean getting goods and troops and so forth into england for the invasion of the continent d day so to speak well what happened to me was that i thought well i only live thirty miles or so from bath ironworks so i'd love to get assigned to a fletcher class destroyer that they were building that bought the what do they do they sent m got liberty from the shoemaker california so we went to san francisco got off the bus in oakland and had to go across the open bay bridge and we looked down on treasure island you ever member treasure island where they had the you know the world's fair and thirty then we bring one back in i forgot that is the way it worked in the atlantic didn't have a pearl harbor in the middle of the atlantic ocean and so let any event that's what happened we a day or two later on we got took the three stewards mates and next thing you know where pulling up on the bay bridge and down on the ramp going to treasure island pull up the leadership of those two d e s that was sitting there which happened to be this one as a young ensign twenty five years old and he lost his life from the attack and so i believe his range remains were found on the oklahoma are and his remains amongst others were buried at the where they got punch and but we also had an interim while we went down to a place that i really would love to have gone back to with pango bangle some more so we went down there to pick up a transport of troops and two weeks ahead of me and we got about two or three days out of san francisco and six ship ships we were escorted we were joined by six more and i got to know before i left home tell me what ship my friend was on my high school classmates and what one of the ships joined up with this he was on it and if you read destroy us you'll see that i ran into a quite a few guys out of the pacific from my little small hometown july fourth of one hundred forty five and got our artist to go back stateside for all the haul you know and be prepared for the invasion of japan proper you know and ironically on twenty millimeter machine gun with what they call was it they call it a sewing machine or something like that it was a call a one point one and it was for barrels like a pom the result will war to that would be the end of all you know you probably see my last statement in that to that effect i do thank you for the decision made by harry truman  i think he made the toughest decision that a human being had to make and it did end the war and saved a lot of lives unfortunately there were a lot of people and hiroshima and nagasaki that lost their lives top of the mountain and i put my glasses up on the top on all of a sudden i looked there's a bunch of guys raising the flag that i checked out after the war and found out that the flag the famous picture but there is one other thing that this guy brokaw likes to call us what is it called the greatest generation yeah well i don't go with that at all hey the young people who day if they had been around at the time and i was of my age at the beginning of world war two they would have been the greatest generation too but i give these people that are in the service following that career vietnam the gulf war the cold that are over there looking out for our benefits as military personnel wesley american paul there at the mall shopping but everything every memorial day i have to go and i think a we came down from thomas the man good friend of mine was on the ground all and normally he would have been in a compartment at the underneath the flight deck read at the rear of the ship playing cards with a bunch of guy but he hadn't his friend decided to go in the fall and part of the hangar deck to watch a movie you know and when they were coming back that suicide plane hit if he'd have been in that room he would have been feel like the all the guys that were up there playing cards is not a cheap carrier  you went back to school how long did how long before you went back to walk to school i waited about a year before i went to the university of an adorable  but they kept giving me raises and while i was there by the way my second year from september to september one hundred fifty two to three fifty three i was sent out to  portland oregon to set up in a ministration system for big insurance program with the international woodworkers association and the four of us that were sent out there by hand call for play golf one of the things he's quite proud of in addition to the newseum is the in philadelphia is the jewish history museum and he was the design what he did he headed up the design team