executive in any fortune five hundred company to become a whistleblower in u s history and was responsible for uncovering the a t m price fixing scandal the early one nine hundred ninety s since two thousand and six mark has been an executive with cyber systems incorporated a california biotech company involved with human clinical trials of cancer research and he was promoted in two thousand made to the position of seal and chief science officer of the company ten discovery channel documentary undercover drawing from his unique history mark parades one of course kind insight into corporate ethics corporate greed in the warning signs of a flawed corporate leadership he's just an interesting man i sitting here we're talking we're talking all by the way they but anyway the title is when good things leaders lose their weight so would you please welcome mark and this is my wife ginger and by the web nugent drew a long time we met when she was in seventh grade i was in eighth grade i told her i hear back at one time we met when she was in seventh grade i was in eighth grade she was thirteen and i was fourteen my mom took the stood junior high dance and and her work she said exactly and back to you're a workaholic so we had that discussion going on for a couple hours then she said the thing that bothered her the most was when i came home from work when i went travelling i feel the phone two or three hours a y because we're a public company on the stock exchange ninety percent of wrinkle was in stock options so the more we are earning the more quicker there were the better the company did the more our stock went up so the more we are person from the stock options it's all we looked at three months paradigm is greed versus purpose there are so many things when i look at the time that it took for us to be involved with prices it's a lot of work to break the law we could have put more time in the positive things in the company would have been more succe could die besides fixing prices in her anymore and earning more money for the company and for ourselves so you don't want to be on the left side of that equation you don't want to be short term you want to be selfish focused you don't want to be greedy folks you want to be on the right hand side of those equations lapis work they want to build a show only jury these videotapes not just the jury to hear the audio tape that i was made so that greenland was a two or three meetings a month for three years that agree with the same eleven gox sitting from this table right here to that scheming there on a day very very painful to see your friends go from that only front page news when all the states came out very painful like i said prison was a cakewalk compared to we're wired for three years the f b i have a guideline they told me when i was at quantico two years ago speaking they have a guideline they don't allow an informant in a white collar case to wear a wire longer than a year because they saw what happens when someone were free and after wearing one for to add one more year to go i was out to fire surely you didn't think these guys are all going to go to prison and you're just going to go to work like nothing happened he said i put in for sure you were going to have to work somewhere else and this is all over with and she walked back in the house i started thinking she's right i got smart guy i got nine laid dollars here now set aside when i get fired i got three years the same standard of living to get back on my feet the same they hired per year every year for the last seven years the day th m learned where the case went public that i was the guy who wore the wire and the case went public and they had a big raid on the company to get all the computers and all the paperwork to support all the case that very day when they learned i was in the middle of all that they contacted the of ten and a half your sentence i had to do eight years and eight months that's the most that i could get off that sentence with good behavior nine years of prison long time it's like fifty years of real life it's no text message no e mail no cell phone it is wide and slow motion the only way you basically you've got twenty four hours a day free time or you show up with breakfast lunch dinner had very little responsibilities they give you what's called a job but you can do that in an hour to the job they have the side to because there are seven hundred inmates and they just don't have enough jobs for all the abates on these camps when i had a ten and a half year sentence and i knew i could out a six month sentence before i went to prison i put my car in one of those crisis try to kill myself were seventeen page letter to my wife wrote letters to all my three kids and i said gosh i wouldn't want you six months how am i going to wait years and i tried to kill myself before i went to prison ice hospitalized for a month i sure for post traumatic stress did want to say that this was another man who mentored me in prison he showed up my second week in prison he went to prison in the seventy's the same struggles that he was the life he was the white house counsel for president said in the watergate he read about me and saw a lot of himself and my story twenty years later he was twenty years earlier he was a prison he showed up in prison in mid thirty's and nine years in federal prison and six years after i got out for fifteen years this man became like a father even to the point where we did events together before he died and um it was my first christmas there i was sad crying and i had eight more christmases ago my kids were sad and depressed and i'll never forget my wife looking at us nine hundred ninety eight our first christmas in prison and i'll never forget my wife they rank federal prisons just like the university forbes does and if you look at for the federal prisons pensacola database is right number one the vision i got to do my last five years my wife will be as into the walking distance epperson my wife will dead still south carolina live walking distance from that prison she would have been school florida and was one of the this is from that prison they allow your family to come in on a friday meet and all day saturday and all day sunday twenty hours a week in a busy room my three years eight months three years and eight months as she stands eight hours a day in a prison visit i thank god every day for every day these are some of the books and movies of the been on the case of informant was the first book came out by the york times the two thousand year two thousand rats the great bite antitrust lawyer your two thousand against all odds came out ten years later two thousand and ten it's mostly really about my wife how she helped things did the discovery channel documentary that came out six months after the movie that's on my website up mark whitaker dot com where it came out two thousand and ten as children i with my digital twins matt damon maybe see why they chose him you know i three billion dollars back in class action suit to reimburse for that theft it paid a hundred million dollars to the government and billions of dollars back to the clients for that twelve years then those companies in august of ninety eight had a lawyer  pair call my wife and my wife is about ready to move back to home with her mom and kids because we're running out of money i spent all that lot of money on legal fees and fines and penalties and if i would have taken the six months it is my family would be very funny actually secure but by not doing that all the legal fees that i had she was irate with back at home with her parents and those companies had a lawyer hire a lawyer and they cold call my wife up and they said the professors that i had that were thirty years old thirty five years old when i was there in our fifty's sixty's and some of them were fifty there were their seventies and eighties they started visiting stars support me and they started lobbying two years before i got out for a job and had four job offer for me out of prison the day i got out in the pharmaceutical biotech industry and i took one of those companies for a high said that one of the jobs for one of those companies and twenty four hours after i got in the biotech industry that's a overall finance the number two executive in that company so i don't take it lightly that i get a second chance in life that's my wife and children today and there's a reason why therefore one of the looks the most like this is our daughter all behind my the life group her life and i look back at that i was twenty dollars a month for nine years after three million dollars a year for seven years and they were the most productive years of my life and i learned that in li it better for society not just something with a big title and a lot of money and a big house and a lot of cars i had all of it it was indeed empty life i will leave you with this i had nine years in prison to free time to reflect and dissect my life from the time i was age five far back as i can remember it when i was so done differently with my life and i'd like to leave you with these hateful messages of the nine years of about that's the reason why my wife was having a conversation with me in the first place when i told her about the price that see i was losing my work life balance compliance program is a must we have a plan of probate a board member or an investor would ask about it they'd be set in a phone book right things so bored i'm a living example of good not forgive the road making a wrong choice and look at the detour up of my family three years undercover nine years in jail i put my family through hell i will say artha stewart sentence would not have changed me i think i still would have come out incest with all the worldly things of materialism we all need accountability we need that's a great group about a chamber like this ever groovy you could share who each other accountable they it market crazy shit in the world don't do that we don't need that i have that but we all need that that we can share work crisis always think long term we were thinking three months down the road think five years ten years