apply for the entire project with a changing schedule but this gives you an idea of logical time and i where you can apply for each phase as a separate project that would be up to the select board at that point to make a determination but recommend that if we were going to phase it out that we would apply for a grant for each phase of the project if we were going to go for the whole thing but i my understanding is that we can apply for each phase or we can apply with the basing schedule identify the project as presented in the updated feasibility study would qualify for all of the grants  be temporary construction easements that wouldn't he doesn't anticipate would cost anything the right of way acquisition would have been with a ten foot wide strip but he's not anticipating that we would have to do that there might be something areas where it would go slightly outside of the right wing in which case we would have to negotiate with the landowner at that point but the right of way our portion that's on here is for identification purposes and kind of know exactly how much it cost twenty percent a max of ten percent could be in kind services for two of them now i'm sorry max of ten percent in kind could be for the transportation alternative ground we could do an entire twenty percent in kind service match for the c c r p c option but that's a limited pool of money for the entire program and there would be a phase if you want to think about the twenty percent can be eight thousand for phase one twenty thousand for phase two thirty six thousand for phase three and sixteen thousand for phase four if they are twenty percent number  to get it's it's a crapshoot i'm sure it's an option and also they've kind of made it so that all these grant programs can work together the c c r p c program program sounds right in the narrative that it's meant to be a just scaring me with i know it's from tension on the ground up we also we might start with the park street you know it's a good way to get our feet wet and we may look at it and say wow i wish we did go crazy or something we should be nice not to do a sidewalk to nowhere at least partly to continuation a little bit of what's going on here to just start with just face three though you know well let me let me just i'm not sure this is the proper place to talk about those folks there were some issues on park street and not necessarily issues because everything is very minor and with a five foot wide sidewalk in instead of the the the concrete that you were talking about they recommend not doing a concrete sidewalk in that area because of the configuration close to buildings that are there did they do they have recommendations on contractors and things like that in the whole process and how long it would take if you go through the if you go through the transportation alternatives program with the state they're saying and this is another reason that i'm thinking we might want to combine the phases to three years two to five years i'm sorry more from the date that you signed the agreement to end of construction that's how long they expected so if you're going to take two to five years to construct two hundred fifty feet people might might think that that's a waste i mean i understand what you're saying but i know we haven't gotten to any kind of recommendations for contractors yet so  shit but that's what they said because it's also they're using federal funds for this whose you know that's that's part of the reason medicine take that long you have to put everything out to bed all of that stuff goes into  yet they there was a misunderstanding that it was replaced in the transportation and hansen's program it's not it's actually different from that transportation has been programmed but it is you  also i inquired with john kaplan nafa stevan from the state by head program which is a little bit different there they don't actually have a project maximum amount reinvigorated and there's also the issue of timing each of these grants happens in a different time we're going to miss this round for the transportation alternatives program because the end of the deadline is in two weeks but we didn't plan to submit for that this year anyway and then the other two have grants application is likely when you do when you ask for each if you ask for a part of me in life a swan or whatever it is the entire feasibility study is going to be submitted as evidence to support your application so they're going to concern the only problem is that the the application deadlines would be in the in this coming fiscal year and depending on which grant we apply for the project we have  not be reimbursable so you have to keep that in mind as well so if we start pursuing a project where we can only get reimbursed once we have signed that agreement to start the project so you know we start preparing the land for some reason you know anything up to that agreement we pay for out of pocket yeah you know i think that's the same with any breath you apply for there's a structure with the computers a lot of ifs and maybes for but but why not put it in there just so it's there it's kind of like the seventh every treatment things there if you just even if it's not in this upcoming fiscal year but you lay it out in this see the fact that we've actually gone forward and updated the feasibility study on our own right away actually strengthens our application of data and corey also seems to think that we have a very strong application as if it was ok i don't know if that helps i know that there are still a lot of expense would be about eight thousand instead of the sixteen five o five and any other discussion being is that something that we want to wait until then to do or did you want to see if there is any money in the bu so you can go back in time to recover things and how far increments it something against change and also if somebody needs to rebuild their computer you got to run and get everybody else off convenience of not having  press in july was in fall which is passed so we're looking at doing it in january we're going to move the grant list to my machine and then she would just access it the same way that cherie access is new word for all her stuff you know  said that if we did they would much rather see them recall now than on the p c asking how so sir because you have whenever you have multiple users accessing machine assumptions much better when it's designed for that plus you have the data file storage and backup for anything other than america and then how about the cloud option thing you're talking about that's off to everybody that i was joking with says you know you're in vermont and so all these various things out it all comes back to the same recommendations that the three people that came in and looked at what we had what we do and and what where we should be all recommended that you know i looked at all these different things and it all comes back to the same exact thing they had originally recommended for us which would be server and house  functions for the data and then rick said you know if you're going to do that they would be happy you're seeing rick on that situation where it's now so that you should improve everything all the way around as as far  leave the one time set up are there all that and then the maintenance the ongoing war which includes email  just for just working example in p d f yes so word excel p d f that's really all that we're storing and all of us are keeping it on that server and on our c drive and don everybody does that do that and you both feel that your information is secure and stored well and everything's working out and you feel like you can keep working the way it's working and here i think that the computer needs to be replaced which one the one that's acting as a server at whether it's a dedicated server or if it's in another tower acting as a server needs to be replaced that was my thought and don't want to that's what they're they recommended we do i mean we've had three professionals in here go through our stuff and give their recommendations they all recommend including a tech group that would go file server no i'm not saying they need to move make them work on just telling you that if we do that route number of print like to move or here for today if we operated something called a foreign trade zone with a license as a foreign trade zone since ninety eight basically it's the strange the way it works we want to go for another us subzone and the process there takes like about a year to go through the foreign trade zone board but there's a new process called of alternate site framework which is a shorter process and that is that we're trying to go through now and one of the things we needed to do is to get a letter of concurrence from accounting all we try to explain to the snow county government and from what he said just get a letter from all the towns and so what we're looking for system have this new framework so we can make it easier for businesses for example if there was a business you know under and under help wanted to import a product manufactured in the next forty and they could take it with us ok process so of the county here so the only change i made to it and i know that it's a form letter from the government site and i saw it on the site was just to change the wording the support of the town of underhill located in chattanooga county versus just because i'm sure they'll know ok ok we'll get to that little bit later so we're going to have you sign up i know we took a motion but there is a form that we're supposed to complete for the side that's going to go down just finds mine and that's best estimate there's going to be no change there licenses and permits that all came from you know kerry or sherry i think they look pretty good and intergovernmental again line twenty nine that sidewalk revenue is going to change and charges for fiscal year and six thirty twelve surplus to help pay for highway capital and that's going to be something i think that's going to have to be in article two i think oh yeah no i think that's on ok and and then the general fund the nine highway money has for a couple hundred thousand dollars also and we're saying we want to use eighty thousand dollars of that for the capital ford seventy five hundred dollars for the compost and well actually you know we don't have that much capital because we took the sixteen hour road to use eight thousand dollars of that to help finance capital for the it says eighty thousand right now but it's going to be modified down after you know so and then they reappraise a reserve that's just money that we have to hand on to get twelve thousand dollars a year from the state two and a half percent salary and the payroll and payroll taxes and benefits the benefits are somewhat higher i put three percent in there because i don't know what's happened to health insurance but the other part of the increase on don actually i mean is some of those percentages are pretty high but dollar wise they're insignificant hundred dollars here or finance two and a half percent and again as you can see in the benefits that was because general was underestimated this year for me think when you need to have the discussion about retiree benefits of our they don't even think our current retiree benefit policy can be effective with the new insurance because it says we'll pay for medicare car so it would make our policy existence so we wouldn't have the first retiree we would have would be to continue on with joan and i just can't see paying actually wearing a few thousand dollars to estimate how much it would cost for her because the only thing that we get lister's the increase there it really is only a two point five percent increase in salaries but their hours they've increased their hours because they're getting down to the last year before they replace the appraisal and so they think they're going to have more hours next ago we were talking about having like a monthly service to maintain the machines rather than calling them when something was wrong and it was like four hundred dollars a month or something so i added that it's about five hundred  had been running about five thousand here and oh well actually about three thousand and then it also is numerics annual disaster which is about eleven hundred and so that's where we get like the last year but it went down from the year before so i thought we could just put it in there without going for the eight social service agencies but you may want to revisit that when we talk about that you may want to go because it's the entries from last year but it's a decrease from here decrease in mapping and also saving some money in supplies here explain to me a little bit of the benefit that you all of reflected in here why what why  times twelve and up and it took a times one on a couple of them so i made a mistake on that spreadsheet some of them i did and then that's what threw one line into that line item on the other one you get to get this is all through the that it didn't show up in the last budget no no no no it's not that last year's budget states is saying what's going to happen is the actual for this year is going to be higher than we budgeted for you have to make up for that because i'm going to pay for twelve months in the general select for appropriations of just kind of put in because it's like working really appropriate various things that don't really have anything to do with the other stuff so it's not just the normal things in here but i did put the  the policy if we adopt that policy says it says that if we increase any of those that the voters appropriate then they have to vote on unique in separately or so so  get yeah is do you want the dollar limit on trees before you have to have it on the other article otherwise you're going to have lots of articles for a twenty dollar increase twenty five dollars increase as they try to overcrowd forty dollars a question you know that's  asked and again i get that i think i need to be more consistent the local food shelf sent a request and it's one hundred dollars more and i put it in the budget see i didn't for the national resources so what every decided to going to do i should do that it's really close if it stays that way in the other purchase services you know based on that for they're doing and have the various equipment maintenance you know reduced heavy equipment by twenty seven thousand that increase dump truck made by twenty retreatment we brought down should be really what we feel to be retreatment because the rest of those are retreatment in reconstruction or down and capital so so it looks like highway went down but it's really because there's a classification were being entered in the books that wasn't quite right and i finally that's just something that been there all the time and i just find a change at this year so that was them but there were no those are just suggestions and i agreed to do  liability for future employment benefits for employees so a way for kerry sherry everybody who's working here now if they're going to be getting a benefit at retirement we have to estimate what that would be an actuary and put it on our books as a liability you don't have to fund that liability but you have to have it there now beemer's starting this this year is going to provide every town with that number so we don't have to do that and the only other post employment benefit we have is that retiree insurance and we put that on there and and so on but i didn't see you know by the time that we realize that it should be on there galaxy and those are done on a flow of cool basis which is what private industries does and then there's the fund statements which are gonna modified crew which is what we always have done so in the government wide wonderful accrual ones that looks at things as an economic unit so if it's so it takes into consideration assets and long term debts and how are you getting better or worse economically from the prior period the surplus you know and some of it is restricted some of that is signed or committed to bet we have two hundred twenty seven thousand of highway surplus uncommitted are assigned and two hundred ninety five thousand dollars in general fund expenditures by two hundred three thousand dollars and that was primarily because they were under budget on highway maintenance and how we're going to structure by hiring thirty three thousand and revenues for licenses permits and services were up by thirty two dances and we got an additional thirty six thousand in government grants and the year and at the year and we had gathered four hundred twenty five thousand which was very fifteen thousand for bond and  balance for the two thousand and eleven trucks delinquent taxes including kind of is an interest was sixty six thousand and there's a tax sale scheduled for next thursday for the remaining to collect the remaining and pay twenty five someone came to the conclusion that you know he is in violation of stuff we've signed for it he's supposed to be doing one is taking a carry about how long he's there and he has not responded to kerry's nothing nothing a certified violation that he's in violation over the work earlier border court the court stipulation order the only other thing would be whether or not letter that i issued regarding the potential violations meaning the outside trash that kind of storage that is kind of bordering on being a violation if we wanted to include that basically i think what i need is permission to go forward with this but considering he's going to tax sale i think that's another thing we need to consider right here with us i mean well he's got a year to redeem so to be hooked on for the year so because i know with when we talked we just kind of dropped it because it's still outstanding and just just spend money to keep saying he paid the safe haven saved me this it didn't make any sense at the time because it just kept staying on the books as a cloud on title moving forward well this would give the town the option to go in and remove the structure right that's what i'm good at isn't that what happened was separate the structural issues no he removed the structure he just didn't is set aside three thousand dollars under which you want to start a discussion about it i don't think you have to have you and then there's the question of how you want to handle the increase with the cousy as far as my take was that you want to continue funding at fifteen hundred if they decide not to fund it at the forty eight so right it's just basically give the voters the option it's like well they've asked us for forty eight we've always given them fifteen what of people want to do you know so so has to be a yes or no questions yes so i did shelob hours increase the appropriation of fifteen hundred to the requested population base funding formula now an appropriate forty eight hundred and it should say per the statute that i forgot to list but i will add that it is that what you're is that what you're looking to ask want to know if there's a drop well on the property well there's i think there are two ways to go about it i mean we can ask a general question is the town interested in general for us to pursue this thing and leave money aside or do you make them more specific quick and then have them come back if they say yeah go ahead lookin forward or do we craft something now that it's more specific you know we could go to the landowner and say hey look give us a couple months to just go ask the voters if they're even interested all prices up and then we'll get it they said yes then we'll sit down with you come up with something we can all agree to have the ball back to the but i know it's a really high water table i would be curious to see if it's i barely know if you have the existing structure and you have a feel septic and it would be a perfect best fix  but i wonder how it would be if someone tore that house down that it's not a best fix any more than you're like right back to doesn't the state look at that like it's a new law to my i think they do well and i think it also fifty by one fifty this is the middle ok it's just it would be smart post office might not always be a post office as you know and it's a tiny lot still own the land next to it you could own it for a good if i didn't finish it and we're already saying that we're using the eighty thousand one hundred sixty two everybody if you're going to pull that thirty five over to that i think the amount that you would use funds or plus or capital should drop because you're going to it's like that and then you have a right issue with the switch again between my monitor switching between my computer and the other computer and it was a simple fix that the tech knew about he could have called me and told me how to do it myself instead you drove out here and back and charge me an hour and a half it took him three seconds and he kind of told me how to do it over the phone i was not happy the gift and i'm just i haven't which found them to be that great and i'd like i said they did the conversion for jericho they were not how things i mean so i have some reserve everybody right over here and they're sort of yeah yeah i mean sometimes when not only posted curated backed up and we don't have to deal with any of it they'll transfer and all they'll change names they'll they'll say you know manage it and they also have extra software that  email hosted email one of the say that every mucking out was that we don't have any record of the emails one site for members changed forever if we don't go through rose we do need to look at purchasing additional heels because it really shouldn't  and what we're talking about doing a regional link would require them to go out and do a petition and i feel like wow you know we need to kind of look at our policy at that seems kind of harsh so what we originally talked about for a for a couple things to think about would be that if it is an increase do we want it to be no matter what it's an article or do we want to seven dollars limit and if it's increase over a certain dollar certain percentage that it a section where the ones that have as down here but he says must remember request of letter to the select board no later than ninety days before the day of the meeting the letter should identify da late november that ninety days would be like december fourth or fifth which i thought was reasonable because most supermarket and buy them as anything happening so any objection to that ninety then we wanted to require them to submit something for the town report and there's a limit on number of words and i looked at the ones that were submitted and published this past year and they averaged about three hundred we we have a policy to bury the request has vary and if you want to change that that's no ok ok ok for a case mona there was a court case were any so any sort of social service agency the town has to provide information to the voter a summary of what agent program and just leave them there not for inclusion because we do have to know what it is yeah just not for inclusion are for agency representatives that not have not had an appropriation request approved in the recent and who are requesting larger than two hundred fifty so those are the agencies that are getting articles so they are encouraged to so as long as they're on that now let's let's get the budget part because like i said before i was inconsistent in some of those things so a couple of the people asked for increases and i put their increased request for and then another are going saying you know in addition to what we've already got here would you like to add this to it so it's not in there you're adding something to it with his articles i think that's kind of way we did also like with the here is the number and you think you're agreeing that number you kind of meeting and then you're getting these other things tacked on to try to be kind i think you should at home with the book to say no this is the total number but it's not the total it's not total number think that you're asking you're asking do that those reserves are going to be articles and they can't be in the budget really really anything i mean anything that the voters have to vote on would not be and you're in your budget but that doesn't mean there was nobody goes to jail and it's nothing is like thousand was but there were in the present taisha no the budget right here that they're not in they're not part of the select parts budget so it's kind of like we probably shouldn't do it with any of them but to your point for ease of understanding we do put a lot of them in there so they can see where the money's coming from and going to but it doesn't but you can't take that budget easy it would come on people when people are when you're at a town meeting you're voting don't you think that if you see that thirty five thousand dollars a day or in the budget you know you've got an article here are you making the connection that if it gets defeated we're taking that thirty five thousand out no times more that yeah i mean they're ready explained well the original conversation i have with them is there as the gas lines were leaking into the yard you have to fix tho but it was mentioned to me today that the sign on the corner of a mountain road regarding no parking on the sides of the road is missed going that people are hurting all over the a row commissioners commissioners that set a date and time so it's tuesday evening seven pm here in town hall and eight pm for the two separate petitions that a public hearing open to all