a lot of a lot of a lot of negative momentum on that squad i think you know three very winnable almost critical games we talked about it last week and a week before that it was kind of the critical stretch to make or break stretch for what was going to define indiana seat and whether they're going to be able to make a run and you know discussion for now large bed and unfortunately in those first three critical games of that stretch they go so certainly you know now they they have to  try to figure out if they can want to game or two and preserve a shot at the end i think two times i can violations in the back court in the last three minutes of the game against penn state to get him involved in blue a twelve point lead with just over three minutes to go in that briefings on a six zero lead including a tip back off on this free throw late in the half actually with a second left on the clock and it took all the momentum in to produce favor and all they needed they came out rolling in the second half and just  did this sort of just take a big lead in just hang on from there so whatever happened at halftime for matt painter sure did work sort of whatever tom crean said sure didn't work you know there's no disputing that and i you know we in the second half was pretty play the team in indiana they got behind and they all want to be the star of the show stan robinson was checking shots well she took bad bad looks at the basket you farrel me face for twenty some points a game high but a lot of points came in mop up time down the stretch he was pretty bad to start second half and again he's got to take better care of the ball turnovers are just ridiculous and you know coach crean can say all he wants what we've got to do it is we've got to do that but he needs to take some accountability i mean this has been an issue even when those turnovers and the loss to wisconsin and into all the teams that really played a great zone defense they just kept turning the ball over and that's what they do this year at this well they got beat by northwest and while they got beat by minnesota it's just going to keep on happening until they figure out hey we need pedler to take care of it in the crucial times and they have not found it and that's what did i'm against penn state that was probably the most embarrassing game that i can think of as an i you fan in a long time that collapse against penn state on their home floor i mean t you and you know the owner of this radio station is is a producer guy and so we got to give him some love in regards to his boilermakers playing pretty good night but the ball john says come come to play to play well you get a sterling card or a guy that we just got out the ball when brian bernie says at this time your guys are starting to come in their own they are getting guys that are the people that like and during this time of year you get some unknown players that play well for your basketball team well prepared to play and were ready to play a lot harder than any error that's for sure great defense pipe by purdue they they had some lapses where they they were up i think fourteen to six in the first half indiana came back stormed back took the leaf a little bit and went back and forth in the first half second half they just played together they did a great job communicating they covered the floor really well they cut off the paint no no if i only had eight points in the game he where there wasn't much for present at all trouble and that's what happened a j hammer has to have both those guys too to end the first definite high for pretty ronnie johnson had a great game of thrones johnson those are the games that that was the game that coach painter has been wanting out of those two johnsons for a long time and what better stage than your rival that shellacked to last year propel them to a they've got a door rough stretch coming up they've got michigan stay home and they go to a very very good nebraska team who is just right now just plain out of their gourd right now and the shots that some i just don't see a good chemistry and meshing right now for michigan state with all these injuries and a guy that every thought was going to be a world beater this year has not stepped up since adrian payne and appling and dawson of head injuries and it's  harris hit eighteen points on sunday or yesterday but shot five fifty from the field and got a couples at the prieto and had a bad game the week before against wisconsin where they needed a i need more together here so i think that's what coach is always going to be saying gary we need you knowing you know what and they can finish the season at ohio state so i could see that michigan michigan state game this weekend being for the big ten championship but don't go in i was out i mean i was got a big title but i think we're going to have another year shoe i really do i think michigan michigan state and iowa and even maybe wisconsin we could end up with four teams winning or time for a big ten title before it's all said and done think i was for going to be in the mix because i think we're going to go to an all this week so i put them a pedant and you know i think i think you know thirteen in five going to get it done you know i think five lawsuits you know there might you say th might be a sure but i think i'm going to go thirteen on five and i think no one's going to do better than that so i think if you're one of those teams if you can figure out a way to get the thirteen in five i think you're at a minimum going to share that sure that week i don't and right back in the thick of things wisconsin we thought that they were right out of it had the last two indiana had the last of the two northwestern and the michigan twenty five and twenty one in five on the campaign to get a big win yesterday they're right back in it in the red back in after three home losses but they got to go in  so the road teams he's be doing well in the big ten which we did not expect so now she let's talk about the pause there but let's talk about indiana now and are you we just had a call ron ron are always calling for tom crean job tomorrow on his show is he going to be called for i i guess i have to say i want to see how they i'd like to see how they finish the season if they completely quit on that i think you really got to look at something i also want to see what his plan is disciplinary wise w but i do you know i don't want to come in here and just only kill the guy i will tell you this i thought the relentless job he did and the turnaround that he did taking a program as well as it could possibly be cannot be underestimated and i think had no matter what happened you have to give him credit for that and he was a tireless worker and he had a great attitude from day one about that and he never wavered in that and he did or deserves some credit for that it was a mammoth job that he did and he got him back and i think he got him back quicker than anybody realized and i think that was largely related to the recruitment of cody's however having said all that you know you lost for starters from last year's team yes but you also had two of the top five picks in the n b a admittedly had a ton of talent arguably should have gone further than the sweet sixteen and although it was back to back swee sixteen but the regression that you see this year and the things that ryan and i have talked about where the turnover bugaboo is not a one time deal this has been like we've all talked about this is a five or six year deal now and it it's clear that that's been might on some level but i just don't know that he's tough enough and demanding enough there's just not enough consequences for the turnovers so i'm going to reserve judgment about calling for a job i want to see how they finish the  fourteen guys on the roster failing it classes when coach green came into this program he could go off campus for his first year as a as a coach coach players had to call him to come on campus to say they want to talk about going to you you did a great job handling that situation you got to look at this there he said no discipline problems up until this season right here major issues academically or off the court in the police blotter dohan or my scare pereo and then this collapse  got to see how he finishes out the season with this team but they didn't give him an extension for a lot of money before last year's campaign a significant increase so you got to wonder what i use dots are on have to pay out a guy because this is a school that is so much in debt for football coaches you have to take that in consideration on what they will do with the basketball coaches you don't want to pay to football coaches and basketball coaches at the same time and i might hold them on for another year or two when i don't think he's going to get fired i think you're going to live with them he's going to probably address the turnover bugaboo as soon as possible at least in the off season or you'll be feral is going to be back for another years you're going to deal with him and you're going to hope that he doesn't you know  can sort of continue to grow as a player and not have to start over bugaboo the ball is going to be in his hands ninety percent of the time but before we let you go shoe an ugly ugly ugly illinois team with another ugly often to performance scores thirty nine points against ohio state held the six points in the last eleven minutes of the game only is really really just hit the cup they've just there's been a bomb that's when off down there i want tomorrow when you got have iowa by thirteen wow they could indiana they've always risen up this year for the big big teams on their home floor but i got them going down to northwestern on saturday you know be there at i don't think that they'll win at northwestern on saturday and before we let you go duke everybody was talking about the big game is due north carolina but now it's due north carolina thursday then duke syracuse on saturday can do g syracuse at the cameron indoor stadium on saturday all right bill schumann the voice of the salzburg uls bulldogs as always shoo we love talking to you on monday nights and hopefully we'll have some better know stock about when we talk about indiana next going to get a game or two of a victory in their conference tournament if they're going to get to the n c a a tournament but it will be weird not having a xavier team is a tournaments i think they're going to have to win a couple games semifinals if they're going to be able to make it the n c a a tournament stick with the big east here for a moment great job by doug mcdermott getting creighton passed villanova can also thirty nine points for doug berman jr passing larry bird for thirteenth all time for in that lord they don't play any deep within the a c c and they guys score well they've got great scores era for duke and for syracuse do comes out on top with 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