he please the court mark which frankly for the city of aurora apollon we're here before the court to ask the court to enforce or reinforce what we consider to be basic workers compensation law which is that not everything that happens at work is compensable this case involves an injury to this police officer who described by her physician as heavy set elsewhere in the records as two hundred sixty pounds who while exiting her vehicle at the beginning of the day this was at the police department the police department sub premises of course but she was not yet started just as she had not yet started your ship when she put her weight onto her left knee she felt pain and  subsequently was found to have country malaysia underwent surgical procedures dr cole said two things one the absence of preexisting symptoms and the quote mechanism of injury unquote petitioner fill this out versus the doctor but the nice survey portion of dr coles records from january two thousand and seven state stated that she was at work getting out of the squad car her pop in left knee now later on there is testimony about twisting  suspect after she felt the pop in the pain she may have to was that the knee but that's not what's crucial for this case we have other cases getting up out of the chairs board of trustees we have cases  getting up from a small preschool chair i don't know if any members of this court ever attended the types of things i did at one time where we have the preschool parent teacher conferences and we sit on these very little things like i've still been use that though the claimant did not prevail in hansel and gretel but she did not arising from that small chair it's not a very normal chair for people and she know i cannot recall your honor i would not want to represent that they that they affirmed the commission or that they reversed i'm sorry sorry but the basic proposition again is that not everything that that happens at work is going to be compensable ok but you've got the arbitrator viewing the claimant specifically something unusual here in full gear full work you're getting you know take into consideration the w of the gun belt the accessories all of those things in the commission found there was a causal connection between the claims work and the injury and we know the appropriate test is there some evidence in the record to support the the emergency room rush copley dr angel the therapist dr player and dr cole they all say the same thing i was getting out of my car i put my weight on my left leg my left knee as we all would and i felt pain  one's own car my goodness if this were the case we would perhaps ironically i would be looking for more business but we would have we would  having injuries i do know that the chicago police department has changed vehicles recently but these are standard automobiles if they were that difficult to get into and out of why why are the why is the police force using them so all i can say is that if she was getting out of a vehicle to say when she would have got out of any vehicle if it were a family car was more it was easier to get out of because it was a ford explorer would have been more difficult to get into because it's them you're saying logically that shouldn't be affected but the commission found that it was why should we substitute our judgment for the commission based on your analysis of the real world your personal analysis of the real world or i'm sure that eyes i'm relatively confident in my personal analysis of the real world because again i'm relying on what the petitioner said when she went to five factors she was just getting out of her vehicle as she put her weight on detail well again the conclusion that there is a causal connection based on the vest and on the belt and as i said i don't i don't know i don't see the petition having claimed that because of these devices she exited awkwardly she just said it was different than getting into and out of her vehicle as we pointed out in our reply brief the physics of this is the same no matter how we deal with one x it's a car by putting one's weight on one's left side this lady this was the first time she exited her feel on that day so ill getting into and out of her vehicle forty times a day as far as i'm concerned is a non sequitur it really has nothing to do with why she injured her leg at that time of the force of the work that member all of us know there is evidence in the record had this happened at the end of the day your honor if this happened at five after she had gotten into another for vehicle forty times we might not be standing before you several independent reasons why this is a compensable claim the petitioner testifies that because of her protective vest gun belt nightstick radio she's a christmas tree of police equipment she says point blank it's more difficult to get out of my car how do i do it differently i twist and turn at the same time it's on the record it's the seventy one seventy two she also says that on this particular incident how did i get out of the car as i put my foot down you have to obviously with all this gear and you have to twist and move that's a record see seventy three seventy four but in short the everybody was and do the same thing summertime when i'm worn a t shirt or it's wintertime and i've got you know a thick coat on mean these police officers i don't understand how they can even sit down and be comfortable with all the stuff that they have to wear around their waist and then they have this protective vest on which is it's somewhat flexible material it's not like wearing a coat of armor but it's heavy thick material you move differently you move more stiffly if you're a police officer it's almost like having leather belt that's going to restrict the motion in the waist to fleece things that make it differently and then dr cole puts it all together and says it's the twisting and getting out of the car that is that the cause of the incident but that's just one r service belt with all this stuff on it and her best way is an additional thirty pounds so if the straw that broke the camel's back is a compensable injury then the thirty pounds of her lease gear that own medical testimony is that weight caused was run of the causes the weight placed on the knee was one of the causes of the injury to the knee but we don't know whether it's decisions one where the other that ever get to that was absolute fine points the fact of the matter is it was one of the causes was the weight and part of that weight was the employer mandate a year and it's not an insignificant amount of is employer mandated equipment i think that's the causal connection we need we also have you know maybe at some point in time twenty years ago dave ford crown vic was the the car that people dro on the street but at the time of this accident the only people that drove crown vics were police officers and this woman's personal car with the record is that for me worse than that the only people who drive around are we so i but the point is that there are multiple factors here that make good the what she was doing you needed at the bottom of that at the end of day you're just like them over bill case that case could have been decided either way and either way would have been supported by the manifest w evidence this case it medically could have been decided either way if the arbitrator of the commission bipeds line and sinker into dr players report they could easily go deny compensation but you know back a player says she told me she got out of the car is a normal person would i'm not really sure what that means she was not responding to an emergency call she was not rushing out of the vehicle but that's not inconsistent with her testimony that she was twisting and turning to the the stuff that she was wearing so we all the histories of the medical providers are perfectly consistent i mean she doesn't want to say i was getting out of a crown vic but that doesn't mean she didn't get out of the crown vic or that the medical histories  if i may just one point i would like to emphasize on the causal connection opinion that dr cole has i believe i started into that question but then confused by the crown probably yes i d still trying to sort through them and i'll get to that but but i think i may have confused myself on that subject and gone off on a tangent however dr coles there were two reasons for his opinion that it was work relate think that there's a that was work related one an absence of preexisting symptoms and to the mechanism of injury at the time he said that there was no mention of twisting the only history head was sort of just exiting the vehicle the reference to twisting came several months later in his records where that came from i don't know maybe he just assumed but at the time he said i think it's work related he said two things one absence of preexisting symptoms into the mechanism of the injury whatever that was all he knew about the mechanism in terms of his own history was that she was exiting the vehicle and she felt pain if he had the other medical records than he would have learned from those fundamentally the same thing well there were previous the symptoms she told dr in that knee infection both me there's no doubt that she's got problems both these and she had had their previously why doctor called to know that i don't know so that that's that's the doctor's opinion and i actually don't know what it's until very recently i did own a mercury marqu