when george w bush was sworn into office january two thousand and one to unify the country health promised over the past decade terrorism has become a discussion throughout the country for the past four to six weeks and that issue is school shootings and school security we're going to first look into the school shooting that happened in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight and that was the columbine high school shooting in colorado let's take a look at that shooting that shooting you know injured twenty four people killed twelve you had two shooters eric harris and dylan klee bald was a very dangerous thing by two high school stopped we still play grand theft auto a new grand the thought it came out you still rock stars and rap stars coming out with new types of music so it's a very if they thought that was an issue well that hasn't changed much that it's still an issue for school say and what kids listen  you know this attack was definitely premeditated you have these kids you know going starting blog websites learning how to shoot guns you know breaking into vans they they're troubled kids but it's not shown you know these kids are very it's not shown that they're criminals are violent kids they're it's underwater pretty much what do you guys think we should do to be able to tell if a person is struggling throughout even struggling emotionally or academically throughout the public school system so we want anything to you know acknowledge these difficulties well i think just the counselors have to be more aware of their students how this too it's a feeling that's why we have school counselors to see t roubled kids and the teachers have to be aware of how they kids are feeling in each class so i think i don't know if a new program needs to be and instituted instituted but by media regular media but nobody mentioned the parents nobody mention the parents at all and i think the parents should really take care of the kids first and then the teachers because the parents see the children more of course they know her character as well a lot more better school administrator a very good point when we're going back to another show and we had a lieutenant governor candidate reed helmet on the show when he was talking about it cation he said that the parent teacher relationship is a very important that has to be increased in schools and maybe a back to the guidance counterpoint maybe a guidance counselor should i mean they have to take on a huge probably a hundred hundred fifty kids themselves i mean do we need to hire more guidance counselors should we set up something else other than guidance counselors because hundred fifty kids for a guidance counselor shootings from happening you know over the past six weeks we've had numerous high school shootings we're going to focus on a couple of them today first we're going to let's talk about the colorado shooting that happened this past fall this past september and canyon high school in colorado about only thirty miles away from where called call by the high school is an old the shooter was dewayne morrison came into the school in the morning you know he talk he took people hostage used to actually one person died in the sense and used one person as a shield just a human you know to practice and end up killing her you know she was a homeless man you know what do you think about this brings up the issue of monitors in schools just should all schools have a security check point to come into the schools i mean what do you guys think about what you guys think when he heard about this latest school shooting i was at what age i believe that you know no school should a fifty three  he took a cautious he came up to a student and showed him a waste of his intent and intended hostages and asked him to identified these the six the six codes i think also that this the students have to watch out for you know people wandering the school if you know something out of place they should should go and notify someone it's a very good point the students have to be aware of their surroundings and can just feel that you know even if they're in school with staff and this is where their parents send them and this is where they be to learn that it's just a safe environment where we get back to that in a minute but let's just make a list you of collets the state of colorado colorado has to has had two were pretty bad shootings school shootings in the last let's say ninety eight because of the last eight years so is this a should we blame colorado as a state or the country as a country as a whole for these school shootings what i mean colorado children i really feel that sh learned to after the first incident this is really a a gnat almost an international epidemic i say because in the past weeks canada has had a school shooting up in a university in montreal so i think this is definitely in a national a national issue and each school district has to and plan and so it's all planned and i think bush had a somewhat about school security so  looked up to there to me i feel like they look at a very low position that these people are retired retired faculty that are just now roaming around and that's all they're doing i don't really feel to look up to and taken very seriously what do you think should be done to make the call m bit taken a bit more seriously and be able to print such attacks on i i don't know i mean they have they're pretty mundane tasks they have a task of going into a classroom and maybe you know finding a troubled student for the office maybe if their task tasks would is the possibility of hall monitors being able to carry a gun in schools does that do you think this would be a good thing to prevent attacks from happening or would it just scare the students and frighten them too i mean even just talking to home because they have a gun now i don't i do not second is it i mean do you think there should be do you think they could come up with the system of maybe having gates and checkpoints right at the entrance to a school you know like you have a college you have a security checkpoint in the open the gate for you do you think they could do that in schools and if they see you have a parking sticker and they let you in but if you don't have a parking sticker you should be able to tell the police that you have an appointment here yet this is i have a point with the teacher shows where to let you in but if you have no reason to being there you maybe should not be allowed in and they would have to send you what do you think about i case it's can different case that has not happened since ninety eight you know we haven't had students attacking fellow students now it's coming on to two students being attacked by predators so let's move on to another case that is similar to the  shooting which is a very surprising and unlikely scenario what you have here is the milkman who delivers milk to the amish community attack a schoolhouse what he did is he go when in the morning he took the schoolhouse hostage he said all right all teachers all teachers and all males can leave they got to leave you know their walkie but he kept the young you know young girls and lined them up you girls lined up against the blackboard and she started shooting them execution style you know this is absurd to me why i mean i don't really i don't know i mean it's i mean the amish do completely nothing to the tarm this country they live a very rural way of life is should we now start implementing you know high security a lot of amish land because but they wouldn't i don't think they would like that because they like to be you know not very you know hi to the common shooting and going and going back now to this shooting we don't know these this milk man his name was charles roberts the fourth he was a very you know well a guy in the community great father figure he just came in you know he was very upset i guess for a long period of time and couldn't deal with his anger anymore but we don't know he wasn't like you know really upset he didn't seem upset the morning when he was talking to his wife you know he wasn't upset home but students were not acting upset it's again how do you predict who's upset who's not i mean it seems to be luck of the draw while here after after the shooting he did admit to just sexually assaulting i think it was one of his another he lost a child when he was she was first born and he blames god for that and the one thing is the amish are very religious and so maybe that leads to something he was upset with god so he goes to amish who are very early on i think that's another  wasn't an unstable person i mean he should have he should have taken time off work he should have gotten issue try to come to quips with it and i think i think it's hard to do that right so now we know what happened in all three call by and colorado and shootings there have been many others following the shootings shootings in wisconsin where the principal got killed and many others throughout the nation over the past six weeks let's take a look at the columbine shooter the jeep and he was the the shooter of the colorado shooting that just happened this past fall and then you have charles roberts the fourth who was an amish who was a milkman for the amish people let's let's take a look at this guys what do you see that they have in common what he thinks do you think that we should point out specific things well ok well the first columbine and the second shooting well both premeditated they were highly planned out and i think also in the car morrison had some explosives i think so why didn't why do you feel the police don't act sooner and even when they hear throughout the i mean this goes all around all the country all all the time they don't have to why i think that was the problem is that they did not probably he was probably depressed he probably had psychological issues and he was probably influenced by seeing eric harris and he wrote in in the media is probably influenced by the  media to a school for let's just acknowledge one thing here that's and i think very important point that must be sometimes overlooked but all three shootings you know columbine colorado the two thousand six hundred and the vic the shooters of each shooting all committed suicide that's an important thing to look at they weren't just crazy in the fact that they you know were angry and things like that but they were mostly in secure for then to kill themselves and take their lives i mean there's that there are things going on that there are things going to be looked at you need to get people in therapy you need to get people to be able to talk to these people you know we don't want people killing other people in themselves and scientists they're not that's not helpful to us that sounds hopeful to anyone so i mean that's a very interesting for stealing and were actually forced by the courts to take an anger management class and after that when he started issuing death threats why didn't anybody follow up on him that's the question i have that we're running a little bit behind but that's a good point also let's just take a couple and in schools have to be careful maybe they shouldn't be wearing short short short skirts i mean it made the guys won't like that but it's an issue that needs to focus on well if that's for get or for their safety maybe it's good because they need to it's been always goes back to the girls in a lot of say how do the students feel security has been throughout their years about my eyes well let's take a look at what they had to say who are major felt here with currently speaking we're out off seed off on the campus of dome on high school we're going to see what students think about their school security like new principal mr maher because i'm i love that me and he he is he is this he's the best i love and i think that he's the best chance but we ever had well in my whole career here my whole four years i actually really was stopped i mean i would probably get more security get the teacher's more involved in the administration if you feel that anything needs to be done to improve security after the latest school shooting start have happened were cross country and i think the security is adequate i don't feel like i'm at risk when i walk through the hallways i mean i trust my peers here to one high school and i feel fine about safety i'm not sure and really i think it's  so as you see in this clip you can see that students about want feel majority feel very safe in this high school they were almost told they play sports they feel safe but an issue that was brought up by those clips by the from some of these students was thievery is an issue alexander acting chief of police officer lane to talk about safety in the schools we're actually looking at the plans that we have in place in looking at any kind of revisions that we need to make and we're also looking at you know the possibility of maybe up any scares you about that this could happen when you're watching the footage on the news that this could happen in the running or you know even that what did it bring up any ideas for what i say i think i think one of the things that came to my mind over the last couple of weeks is with this the shooting in the amish country is that it if it can happen there can happen anywhere i think that's that's the reality of it unfortunately that's the world so we need to do what we can to be prepared for it and you know go on to the you know unfortunate assumption that you know one may happen here someday and so we have to be ready for it so we can't close our eyes to it and just say you know belmont's a nice little town and it's going to happen here  over over it has been discussed when president bush had a summit on a school shootings about you know authority figures in schools being able to carry guns what is your feeling on this issue i don't think there could be a worse idea which i think i think the weapons should be in the hands of police officers and people you know and because they are well trained in how to use them i am completely against having other civilly so to speak carrying weapons and i think most of the students at the high school  happy to hear that as well as what is your feeling about how about having you know security detectors as you would as you come in the building like they have at sporting events or other schools and minority communities cheerily detectors should be like metal metal detectors i reckon it's a difficult question we all are still living in the united states as far as i knew and we have a constitution here so we do want to respect personal privacy it's a balance of the school shooting is that these were students who were not connected to the to the student body in a lot of ways they didn't play sports they weren't in the play you know they were the loners and i think that's one of the big pieces that we can do is as teachers and parents just trying to encourage all students that positive connections with the belts in school that's that's one of the is that the f b i did a study of of the shootings as well and that's one of the key identifying factors is this the it was the loner the kids that felt disconnected and heard guys before talk about some depression i do things and and suicide is as a byproduct of that you know there's the students that are that are getting involved in these kinds of acts are those students who don't have a well things i think we have to realize a belmont they're a luxury law schools around the around the state do not have people there that are paid to monitor the hallways so when it kind of a good position to actually be able to have them here the other thing i think about it though is that there's twelve hundred students in this building and there are four whole hall monitors they can't be everywhere all the time so one of the things that i think rome is special with the issue of theft the that was brought up for was to look at how students feel a responsibility that they're going to take a stand that this shouldn't happen in our school if they really feel their own ownership of this building you know if something gets stolen  cafeteria there's no way you can tell me that nobody saw it you know what i think there's a there's a cultural thing about people who are are you know scared of turning into a squealer or whatever that we really have to kind of step up and say we don't want this to happen in our school and therefore we're going to step forward when we see something going on and tell somebody about one other question where you live to discuss the issue of consequences for such actions for a minute i know last year there were a couple  incidents when people have dropped pocket knives to school and you know they didn't really i don't feel like they were really you know dealt with the right way maybe they got a few five suspension my potential but no major suspension jenny things like that do you do you feel that you know what do you everyone know that all opinions here on this program our own opinions and do not reflect the bottom up cable channel we just had or the comcast network or the students or faculty at belmont high school and let's just remind all parents out there to keep an eye on your kids make sure they're getting involved in you know activity is even if it's as small as getting together with friends after school or even you know even staying after with a teacher you want to form relationships in a high school or in a middle school or in elementary school so you know you have someplace if you have some if you're struggling some when you have people to talk to so make sure you do that for many sort of relationships they're all good so stay tuned next week for currently speaking thanks for watching