were talking about the play station four i was there yes and you know biggest release of all time sold a million units in twenty four hours oscars last friday so this past friday x walks one comes out a million units in twenty four hours so a lot of play station you know fans are saying well it's not fair because x box was on sale and all these extra countries and stuff so right now we're you know a dead heat i guess with tween the two last week show you kind of you talked about he thought that play station is going to have a little more legs in this in this race yes stealing the change with ok i haven't heard anything from x box that really says to me it's going to have that length out of it i mean really we've got some times while they're selling out while they're moving through stores while people are looking for anything to give their kids for christmas anything will do is going to be what determines and really th terminations level is who owns one system versus the other not the people are going to own both of them so this initial run course every one of them these are all your crazy gamers and people who have to have one and people have more disposable income it's when the choice and i always drank the wrong potion at the beginning and died every single time so so i and so the next kid could get in immediately so they were getting a lot more kids going through but so through the years i can play a thousand hours and i still don't get a better but a tech geek but not me not necessarily gaming geek and that's what's one definitely has at least my ears perked up because of how much they're putting into the media center and i still look at this thing and i'm like you know if i was buying it as a gaming system i could say i can understand it but to buy a media center for five hundred dollars is just a slight really out of the price range that i think would make sense and that a lot of people you know it's one of those things you know microsoft's going to lose money on these so on the five hundred bucks they probably would sell a lot more units at four hundred bucks the price point for their competitor but the thing that scares me how you know all the advertising so far has been centered around games and i think from a gaming standpoint most people miss and the playstation four is the better gaming unit maggot's massively  proved controller and sent things like that but as a form of media center center of home entertainment in the living room and the x box seems to have more potential it's got to connect coming with it now as opposed to buying it separately  in the p s four than i just can't see anywhere getting those mid adopters online on you know beginning of the line when most of the people are still complaining probably still own but we you as well i mean my coverage it would been brilliant because every single time they would have mentioned that x box or playstation they would have had to talk about the e u and now it's playstation x box that's all that's getting talked about in the us being left behind so yeah i thought that was an interesting point about that but yeah i don't know how much longer intent is going to be in this game they don't have quite the pockets that that sony or microsoft have i mean they've put their selves themselves in that market and at the same time they drove themselves out of the market you know what is it twenty years ago fifteen years ago when they had exclusivity and they made that market again they brought it back from the dead in the initial nintendo entertainment system and kept  perpetuator for a while but children eventually and then rebirth again with the we so who knows i mean perhaps this round could be lost to them but i don't think necessarily the battle was spent speaking of ups and backtrack a little bit of course yahoo's been having tremendous financial difficulties the hard mercer meyer to come in take over c e o and she's been doing these massive changes some of them a little silly like the whole redesign of to someone competing with dr oz i can't even say oprah anymore i mean she's in that you know dr phil range and all of that stuff that daytime television has been right relegated to when she jumped ship over to the evening news i think she lost so much credibility and force in the news market i don't that's not where i would dump my money not at all not i think a tremendous misstep but well and i'm curious tremendous news source for people but you want to typically i think scan headlines and find stories or just of you you don't want to sit and that's all i watch somebody talking to you and i think that it goes back to the old model of you know that's the old style of news you had to sit and of our generation and the like back to a yahoo source i don't know about you and your news sources but i tend to flip back and forth between them and and s and and for the most part of the yahoo and sort flipboard that go through and call all of the technology news that i'm interested in and then i can kind of look through all the mails in the headlines and that's kind of how i do it i don't necessarily go as much to a  standard news site as i do that and so for me i mean this isn't going to make me go to yahoo any more often i think it's an interesting concept i just and have to wait and see what the execution is going to on it could be really interesting if somehow it kind of is very short and brief and kind of you know here's a couple quick news stories a look below and or get you to the links whatever but i don't know if washington character is any different than me scanning the headlines myself maybe intended to come up with something that sort of a competitor to the evening news or whatever but i thought that was a pretty miserable failure to as far as c b s is  short sighted attempts to get in that range i got nothing with this now speaking of not a mass the hunger games catching fire was had its release this past weekend how to do bond i just happen to be the sixth largest opening of all time how were we so far into competition the hunger games is out for what five days now sunday monday  say i saw that movie not terrible not not what i would call good terrible concept but a decent movie around ok i did not hate it kind of funny but i think the difference is well and and cutesy story but it's you know and that the demographics may not be exactly perfect for this this movie to be successful i don't know who not only is vince vaughn  to be a problem i don't believe well i actually think black nativity is probably the same skewed audience that tyler perry thought was going to be so i mean you got that subdivision going on there not necessarily male one young male audience well our older male audience because of because of sly's involvement in the movie that he wrote for himself i guess twenty years ago and just never got around to making also   which i don't know i don't know ok right yeah it's made forty eight million dollars in four weeks and expect a thanksgiving to movie to make two hundred million dollars but my guess is the intended long legs on that one there aren't a lot of competitive films for it you know there's a bunch of halloween films and a lot of christmas movies but not a lot of thanksgiving stuff in the in between when he got garfield thanksgiving special charlie brown thanksgiving that we talked about actually after the show we depose show meeting and i wasn't there yes you are we talked but i had read an article shortly after and i thought it was kind of brilliant as far as looking at costco and saying this is a company that makes its money on membership fees not on selling merchandise so as a company it's great for them to be close that's the best thing in the world for them because they don't pay any employees not pain i mean outside of  refrigeration where they don't have lights on and they're collecting money from you and the day that you can't go so you have one less day you can actually shop with your membership true i'm buying this so it's brilliant but they're getting this great p r that  we are that we are the company that is taking a stand on thanksgiving we're going to give our employees a day off and i keep thinking that what an awesome commercial campaign that would make let's let's take a look at target on thanksgiving day and store on thanksgiving just crickets silence and then we know we've we value thanksgiving we value family we value employees and when you're done shopping all those and crazy crazy insane people come on over to us i mean that's the billion dollar marketing idea kids wal mart's amass come on over to our place so how do we have an over under on how fast the first this is the worst black friday number of so many years a new story that's going to come out because it seems like every time my guess is you've got predictions already i've already heard predictions of this is going to be a lower attended black friday than all the other years so i mean t pricey but i'm curious if that's going to reduce the amount of money that people are spending on other things and so therefore where as one store might do well other stores may not on this i don't know  e the way i look at all of this is so much tech i think is sort of pricing itself out of as existence televisions for example getting to a point where you know old shows material three d t v flop three d movie flop we're talking for the show but even to the point where televisions can't get much bigger anymore i mean you know the wall sized t v is coming in installed wall television  ok and i think it's gonna get to a point where you know the pricing of the lower tier models just gets lower and lower and get to a point where you're you know cutting nickels in half to make a profit i think there has to be some kind of other expansive jump for us to get money back in those fields again and i don't see it it's not happening there's nothing driving the market that will make us support that yet and while in some articles i've read to have talked about that there's just kind of this technology fatigue that before used to be you have one or two main things come out you know a number of years ago despite the next box one that would have enough people but now there's these companies coming out with tons and tons of new products all the time and how different are they really for the most part and people are just kind of you know that excitement level to go rush out and and spend five hundred dollars six hundred dollars on a new device every year is getting to that point where that's just not happening and as you said it's almost the point where maybe it's time to shrink the market a little bit and and expand the releases so that is not coming right on top of each other so i think is going to happen by attrition i mean these three systems come out the same time will push on intended to the point where it's more than likely slowly sliding away you know the specialization on whatever and that will make the surviving companies get to a point charge more for their technology make a greater profit and then someone else realize hey wait a minute i can get in here and do the same thing but less the pendulum like everything else so i yeah i don't know it's it's a great exciting time as far as the stuff that's out there and technology but it's also kind of gotten to be a boring side because good this new device i can't get excited about apple big press events anymore i mean i can't  remember the last time we were all excited about was the puppet one they were putting the guys through and rebroadcasting that but i'm predicting exactly what's going to happen i'm seeing exactly what's going to happen until there's a point where there's a giant breakthrough and there's nothing and i don't see it coming years you know you can see it coming coming in just two short years just a few weeks back we didn't get a chance to talk about this story a few weeks ago but star wars episode guess is you're going to see a lot of hype around like that peripheral things getting bigger and bigger everything from you know the star wars weekends at disney all the way down to the you know little cartoon shows and everywhere in between where you have an inundation of this plus these and then you've got this megalomaniac corporation now that owns networks and news networks and social networks and everything else underneath that so they're in one hundred percent control of this i mean this is you know big brother segmented big brother but big brother coming in to tell us exactly what we're going to be interested in and affect us thing aright  worry my worry is the news corp the disney owns in control of that and at the same time the backlash of you know i don't know warner news over something like that we're getting a very slanted perspective on what the news is from that do we judge that i mean does warner have an interest in promoting something that disney produces or not mean they need to get on the scene today half to get on the can they afford not to out in secrecy or you know going to be one of those things where they put out lots of fake releases to throw people off or if he just doesn't care it's just you know make a funny movie and just come out and see it you know sort of the responses the little things we've seen harrison ford goes to interview and leaks the fact that yes he's been approached by star wars industry to get this information how was that responded to well sort of embraced you know ok great i mean he's harrison ford he can't really jump on him had been carrie fisher doing it if it would been marking a mole doing something like that and maybe a little different but it's out there it's gone and these are rabid crazy technologically savvy people who are going to get a hold of i mean one of the whole x men wolverine debacle from six or seven years ago where the entire film came out and there was sort of a you know pause response what are we going to do we can respond and then it still did ok in spite of the fact the movie was sort of a dog anyway so i guess what to see i just she's going to do a spinoff series of harry potter it's like it's a race taking this comic book idea is done with it forever so hopefully everybody has a nice safe happy thanksgiving have a great time and black friday