or eight generations was about those seven i don't know but when it was just speaking of star trek actually star wars and sad news over the weekend gary kurtz passed away at the age of seventy eight from only those that are close to him or know him or talk with him or of had a meal with him so of course on the twitter you know there's a lot of people who are life long journeys to undermine everything george lucas and everybody else's credit so i ask you there are others that you know place everything he's done on a pedestal right i mean and so are the first two movies different with gary kurtz as producer do you feel like you feel the effect of actually a really good question overall and i mean we could feel the effect of the producer i think we can agree that you know there's one particular producer  seventy seventy four seventy two seventy four but i believe and hall was the winner of the year yeah we lost somebody you know people were reminding that if star wars would have won it would have been very kurtz that would have gone to they have executive producers and so yeah that goes back that goes back to  like the thirty's well maybe it's just producers not executive producers then but the only film that hitchcock directed to win an academy award he would produce you know he just directed and he never won for director blockbuster like directors they rarely will allow two people to be named as the director has happened on occasion like with sin city yes well there was there are i guess  there sixty two percent yeah the writers are talking to the press of is coming off of the movie that made the least amount of money four thousand theaters by some metric they said let's put in thirty three more theaters this week what's up with the account this week that's great i just got to me it just seemed odd i don't i mean i guess there's not really a lot to fill the theaters right now yeah a little rough my guess is fallen off the mean look at that list thinking and not only am i not super interested in going to the theater to see many of those i don't know if i'm even interested in walked in those when they come on netflix for free nor for included cos they're paying for  friendly very small time interviews like again mr rogers cast members are not exactly you know fighting for anything in his spouse and i'm trying to get a couple of other people but it was a few current interviews not even with most of the major characters but it made millions of dollars x very very nice and then i assume once the course right now tom hanks is in town most of our street signs put new york city treat signs everywhere volkswagen i'll say it again but they make it they played off is this really cute movie and then you know almost kid like a kid movie in the beginning and then it gets very violent and it's just kind of an odd trailer from a shaping of train for those that are editing trailers that watch the show so how is bumblebee going to do it i kind of figured we had transformers fatigue maybe maybe i needed something i mean the transformers just went falling down a cliff i would say this has a distinct possibility of being successful if the budget was small enough like if they're using enough recycled things from other stuff that they can make money off of it or this is gotten cheap enough that they can do it or the people they hired are cheap enough to play it off i mean i really like that there's not a good zillion moving parts at all times and i like it like oh i'm watching this know now the cartoon is not as good as i remember when you watch it over and watch and lately i have no i've watched i watched some of it a while ago i was like this was not good you know it's harder g i joe you know tucker i could see that be half of what the last one made really whatever the last one made so this is not going to launch i'll be zero use of unless they made it for cheap if they did it on the cheap then they to twenty million dollars you know it's going to be somewhere about sixty sixty five million it's interesting half half of what the gross was sixty five million that's my prediction and if the budget is fifty they'll do ok i'll take over over sixty five bumblebee is a certain audience but remember there's like it's like weeks around it they're released and stuff comes out of thanksgiving comes out the week after thanksgiving comes out the week before christmas and this comes out on christmas the window is christmas until new is a movie was a show in the streaming network c movie of twenty twenty percent of the course wonder woman ninety four is coming out the previous november psyched about that that may be the only part of that and says i like with the tremendous fail terribleness mel gibson it's called a transition when you throw out the next topic like that it doesn't gibson is going to redo remembers how it kind of changed drastically styles of editing with of course when it came out it was kind of there was a lot of controversy because it's very very violent but you know the shoot outs of it that are incredibly there the multi angles there you've got the slow motion in the fast and something that was kind of very groundbreaking for nine hundred sixty nine just the stuff like setting up and looking at them like breaking that line of action and effectively were audiences can keep up with that that's a very complex so what's your case study for that so obviously place down director has an i'm proud that he's made a real flop and from the directing standpoint things you know that was just i mean apocalypto i guess is probably his biggest maybe perhaps his biggest fail most of the stuff he's been associated with since the you know recorded release phone calls have been that yes he was the leader and i'm trying to think if there is i'm thinking of the one he did where he was an actor as puppet jodie foster i mean directed that one that was so bad and i think in the story i did mention he's in the middle of doing another war movie it was called the beaver i don't recall that one oh never heard of the beaver  or was that two thousand and eleven ok so yes so he's he's currently working on destroyer which is going to work be about the battle of but of course starring public issues and yes but for had been seven years between the singing detective which was his last i was a little fun but he signs was the year before to edge of darkness which is going to be kind of his dark come back  and then after that the beaver machete kills expendables three and that he's home to as far as expendables after all the expendables as far as i saw daddy's home too as well because it was no good man without a face was twenty four million but look at the data that is that we know that seventy five thousand people saw a comet do we know the afternoon and they didn't have to you know like who goes to you know it and speaking of things we really really wanted charlie's angels reboot is coming with banks is actually is directing it i was not part of any of the last boot at all she has a day one picture of film clapper so you can be excited we got charlie's angels coming back as well ok and i actually didn't realize it was banks was directing and i guess she