raised perfectly because nobody knew i was pretty impressed that he managed to to raise it to the extent that he did so i think that there was been knocked out twenty three twenty six one as well as twenty three twenty six two and she couldn't and should have pursuant to the way the guidelines are written run the counts consecutive and you would have the ten years  and that is that i'm not sure that the defendant would really want there to be a full reconsideration because there was one particular consideration were guarding loss that is not  way has changed and that is that we were very careful to preserve alabama the alabama cases integrity and part of that was to take out the chunk of  they were dealing with so that they could have their own case and not worry about a sentence that would fairness maybe have to run concurrent well they made a contract concurrent anyway so i think i would argue to the district that that eight point six million should no longer be subtracted from the night of loss so i think a full remand in this case could result in a higher sentence because the loss wouldn't they don't have to ask us to reverse the sentence they don't want and we might even say that they once we reverse they still have the option of not going to ask for the newsroom but it's really primarily with respect to the product company i disagree with that that's an allegation that the defendant and judge to resign did find that the the entire or operation was permeated by fraud that all of these credit card companies were selling the same thing which was this credit card protection that was illusory and fraudulent in the way it was sold whether it was investigator testified were these credit card protection sales and the defendant supplied the script whether it was on his own product harrison or the other people's product he insisted on  telemarketers did you know i could be wrong about this but i thought that he didn't actually do the telemarketing for the other products rather he did the the credit card processing and that included some of these confirming scripts a products but the defendant supplied scripts for the sorry scripts for all of the sales whether it be his own product or the other products and then he did the verification procedure that was and which means that they would actually his company would actually send out packages of information for the companies not his own credit card protection company but the other companies that he was processing for would send out fulfillment they would send out products and then they also course processed through the banks and they provided the customer service for all of these companies in other words when people had complaints they would call the defendant's company as opposed to the company actually selling the product so the defendant was kind of the centralized person for the processing of the scene and interacting acted as an intermediary between the telemarketing firms and the banks and so it was not established whether these cars had to do you know completely unrelated matter is that  were not just the telemarketers calls which they defend i wanted to monitor it for some reason or other but it was just not established that these cars actually had to do with the company's name and i meant so therefore