artists greenly free chal fernando and stephen walt well turner this is really a public education campaign to educate our residents about not putting things down the storm drains and they're also very cool getting bods of social media great job hauling out together at the middle of budget season as well so thank you angela for that and thank you for to solve it empowers for being here the police department purchased a solar powered radar speed detection system with the governor's highway funds that people now see up on the top of main street it's part of our attempt to get a place making on the street getting people to slow down one of the new innovations with that radar screen is that it's bluetooth enabled so will actually be able to pull the data out and understand what's happening over the hours and days which is great for planning purposes we want to welcome julie  superintendent the building staff for managing it really well and say mike for showing up and the price team as well for managing an item back you wish an after school hours but with a lot of humans still in the building and then finding the problem and rectifying quickly minimal damage to the building which is great last week we had our housing policy panel discussion which is great we had five professionals from around the region talking to us about housing policy options of people misfit is broadcast on c c t v and on convening of all the housing commissions in the area october twenty ninth for discussion specifically focused on affordable housing trust funds which is one of the things we're considering so people are interested in that that's monday october twenty ninth from six to eight at the c c r p c offices on that one ten west canal street and of course ph if a is holding their housing conference from november thirteenth to fourteenth as we've talked about i'm go next meeting on november fifth we are going to do a couple of treatment plan preview for you in advance of the budget process john and his team of the putting a lot of work into data collection and it's a lot to take and i'll call it once we don't want to do gesture in the budget process but break you some of the data we've been looking at as well as start giving you the debt service modeling potential for main street and the pool so heads up that that's coming and then finally we will need a meeting at the end bring to your attention i don't know if you've seen some prior information out of that's been put out but there were blue store bought a bunch of old train curves and has been restoring them and is interested in discussions in the state around we're turning some sort of commuter rail to certain spots obviously far down the road but one of those discussions is on a potential essex to burlington around with the hope of if you're going to ski very simplistic very complex discussion but they are doing tours of some operational curt's that are cars whatever there they have up in market helier so i said i'd pass around info to everybody here if people are interested in going down and taking a tour and getting a little demo on just let me know when i can connect you i'm going to be going down one of the nights so yeah i mean i think you well talk about seasons greetings and pumpkin gathering in what else and what it really can do for that in a few minutes that if it's the one one thing i just want to bring folks attention it's been a consistent discussion point there as we passed and in terms of vision statement that was really supposed to act as the pillar of our thinking more than the  directional statement of how we were going to focus our working investments i think there's been some really good conversations about some of the language in that vision statement that's come up in my consistent sort of  comment and then missed that vision statement was it was done as a stop gap to the master plan and master plan really in a lot of ways replaces the vision statement some point even though the master plan is being developed around the concept and this is of the vision statement so i where road conditions are and how they will be addressed in the future to have a proactive approach there and the commission is providing input on what like what art as a community where expectations should be on the road conditions to drive that process we also get the commission decided to move forward with doing social media posting updates on their work silicon monthly very factual here's what we've been working on  complexity of that and the time and hours of this it was spent on that prior to all that kind of big stuff you know forty plus other years of service leading up to that were you prepare stepping down with the tremendous sense of accomplishment and pride in the work and contributions you gave to the city of new city so i can't say enough about the example you've set of people who are interested in being public servants and as mayor and i take a lot of or i've been given a lot of credit for that but without the visions of you he built me get we would never have this downtown we have today and the leadership of jerry myers for city manager steve palmer who was my city engineer at the time for these two gentlemen to get project a follow through on time him with a budget and when i get called down would have another scenario and we'd go back down but over the course of the couple of years that we went through this bill would not give up and  could on and i added a tremendous counselor who should corded the downtown we we had some tough decisions and there were times where we left at midnight of that sacrifice that you want me to do so thank you very much that we would love to hear from people  and i think to a very important to folks at home can't see that car is going to take place on saturday and sunday this year at the community center excuse me at the senior center so be sure to block off some time digital peoples to the end there were thirteen seasonal now and years so folks that were there for all of those weekends and then there was a total of twenty two years plus or minus that that's really great and our farmer's market facebook page just in terms of reach is two thousand one hundred likes in the entire downtown pages one thousand three hundred like and we also have the readership of our newsletter and fifteen hundred and the opening rate for gap averaging is twenty seven percent which is pretty good in terms of their  will be selling those again for you know ram small business saturday and so one of our goals it is that business reach out and getting gauging businesses representing businesses and that's something that friends can talk about how we want to improve on that in the future not some other events that we hosted this year we had the wind used to get down to where eight businesses were at the monkey markets and we love to find an excuse stand things like that with them you know movers and shakers in the community the french heritage festival that i mentioned previously is in greenland because out just i think we had ten and trains and the range of folks from somebody who is like in ingrained in her never made a typo for her to forget her name but she's lived here her whole forward to continuing to do that i mean monthly basis especially now that winter is coming in that's a slower time for businesses and so coming up with new ideas like that just continue impactful way so right now we have had great relationships with a lot of businesses and we do a lot of on things throughout the city for the year and there's going to there's a lot going on in the city  we see a real opportunity for this organization to find a way to be a stronger advocate for those businesses as the city moves in new or exciting directions so we want to business owner we're looking to fill that seat right now but we think that there's opportunities to expand that to a much higher percentage to make sure that the businesses are an active part of the board so i think just a couple more context the ends the downtown designation isn't just a designation it's it opens a door for several types of specialized funding through state programs in we want to take take that five thousand dollars out of this with a flexible budgeting thing and fix it and do it a higher amount that was more appropriate you know for the activity in for a city and just the size so we came in so that's just an additional cost just i think my question that i know i have had asked for me has there been in your research in conversations has there been discussion about expansion be on the downtown  roomier and the price comparison per square foot it's pretty crazy with other communities and towns in terms of what people are paying versus what they're being charged here and that being said ross when we talk to one percent questions comments concerns from the public work you're doing a wonderful job thank you for all you do there's and there's no way to prepare but you have mentioned there are a lot of kind of the stakeholder individuals or groups that prefer the removal of one of those appears do you think that that could also so one of the conversations we're going to have to have as a community with burlington as this moves forward is you know we saw the red bar of where the river walk will be impacted by that slide an option if we go in that direction  my understanding is that there is any additional staging area in addition to that and whether that's falls primarily on our side of the river burlington side of the river and how that's managed is going to become a bigger conversation i don't think  i'm just looking for a read on the sense of urgency is focused on the burlington side on this bridge and i know one of the priorities they may have in terms of the structure needs  well more fell on us i think it was also fast track to an extent on their side to enable them to i certainly also think that they are in a huge building phase right now so it could would be hard we would be hard pressed to do that would be able to give this the full time especially due to some recent developments and things that he is doing so i've stepped in to give some background on the formation of this is very much a draft for us to consider the last meeting to put it into the language for formation of this and also work off the draft of a previous committee that has been formed from jesse so a lot a lot of the language remains true from that initial draft of what we use is the template for other committees so there might be things very you are we don't think we make sense don't think make sense in this car lot of the it is drawn from just previous committee charters that we've put together and in the past the questions your concerns i do think i did keep it in because i think in general we should strive to reflect a breadth of diversity in our committees so that i don't think that there is i think what i heard from the counsel prior though and one of the things that i had was that i was really important that we strive to get an individual or individuals who would be directly impacted by those who are non citizens in our community right now so that's the addition right there but i did decide to keep the other other language as well but i don't think i didn't write it with the intent of saying one of each member that represents the specific perspective right it's got a different feel to it we've approved this and i feel pointed our members now if it's on your plate that sort of take it or leave it versus we've reviewed it we're comfortable with this approach we'd like to opportunity for delaying their processes they are going to be taking you know until november but i don't know i'm just doesn't feel particularly collaborative to have made all the decisions before they've even taken up the question you know language  yeah i mean i guess i would just reserve the right to change that sentence about the true school trustee members  change charge is shared with the i mean i think it's just speaking from the perspective of opening it up so that people who are interested can kind of get it you know application process also means that if they're proving this on the fifteenth they're worse so schedule of interviews for consideration in canada so it's enough to make you know that works if anything were to change about this i think we would want to go back to applicants and say the shape of the committee has changed a little bit in this way you know we could reassess down but i think if we you wait to actually open up postings and start the process of interviewing people are having discussions with them there and it's not going to be until mid december which we actually formulate a committee which means there probably wouldn't if you decide and it's a post until the fifteenth and consider applicants between then and there and probably have enough time to then the recruitment by the third i don't know because if you post the before that time to consider candidates start having discussions with people so that we can get to be ready to move yeah i don't have a problem with soliciting interest ahead of th ok yeah i think think though if we stay in our longest time line when rick's expect their first to december there's discussions about when people can have initial meetings in get the ball and i think our expectation is that we've laid forward some outreach considerations or thought some baselines the first job out of their group is truly analyze that and say did were we given the you know our fi gotten feedback on it and that we're considering all the right points and concerns so there but there is the process thing we've said let's look at the community for if you look at that in the scope and decide its own pace in a way you know i don't think that that's a fully on bravo license in terms of if it comes back when we think we can do this in four years there's probably going to be you know a discussion as to why the whole four years but report so there's six hundred eleven contacts and then there is the distinct client server face to face so there's two hundred thirty three unique users so are you looking for like did all the rest of those come from one person  involved or so one of the things that's really i think unique about this is that the camino reach team members have been screened screened to look into our police data data i can't look into but the basing was just on the number of calls was a little concerning to me because we don't want to discourage people from calling our us calling and asking for that to come respond because it's going to be higher hospitals you know if that was mine you know do that because we're actually practicing community policing not that and i don't know what is happening in these other communities whether but if that's what i'm interested in we're where are the referrals coming from because of this being driven by our police department plan and involve goals and goals are long term solutions for or you know strategies that we're trying to accomplish under so we have five goals in this plan the first one is reduce bread soft crime it's always basically going to to obtain the goals so they're short term some are long term some of them will outlive the document can be entered into the second year t j plan this is a live document that we're going to review once a year and will always be willing to adjust if we have a checkbox next to a specific objective that wasn't a three year project then would be all good to moralize that removed from the plan the updated plan and added new objectives so i wanted to have a realistic number of things that we could work on but i didn't want to tackle something that which is gathered there we never you know gain any steam or actually make progress on so those first when we really try to keep it boots on the ground simple twenty five things that we can focus on we can do monthly check ins with the least department to make sure that we're making progress on those objectives and then you give us a direction on what it is we're trying to do because if you don't have something written down sometimes you know everybody gets i'm all ahead this stuff comes into play before you know it you've lost six or seven months and you had a bunch of notes you know scribbled down of things that you wanted to get to and you just done so this keeps us honest it keeps us on a timetable and the same excited this document is done have choked up reading this think about how far that your karma has come in the last four or five years in terms of the way you approach your work thinking and planning it's it's really phenomenal and you should be really really time to spend the effort to get these things accomplished and like i said it's it's you know when you have a twenty four hour day seven day so we operation there's always a last communication just it's just natural is you don't see all of your ways all the time so this is just a great way to remind people what it is we're trying to do  items chief but thank you for all the work in the department know the restructuring that's been done over the last year and a half getting positive feedback on the street so thanks for all your questions come from the fall sort of a hard construction cost number three million seventy thousand two hundred seventy five dollars which was why the march thirtieth memo and that's with the two hundred sixty so this is one of those kind of conversations we've been dancing around this is the first time we take a ha ha ha as we have talked about the all in planetary engineering plan we've talked about the value engineer plan the full use of the pool all the features minus those kind of on the margins cost savings opportunities the bench in your can identify it still keeping it all the features minus the sheet feature i guess and then the so that so if we improve the scarf you improve this contract that's knocking the engineer into designing that value engineering option  so if the fund raising targets of three hundred thousand now that we would be looking at three point four four as we bonded for us to this project this is us where it is or this proposal is for a traditional design to build a project which you know you pay a little bit one plus this is just a rough you know they throw  base so i think that's a totally reasonable concern i also think it's important to remember what was happening in march when that data was presented you know we were doing preliminary engineering on the pool and mainstream in the attempt to get to the bottom boat we were john was a month into the job this was primarily a community services project not a public works engineering project so you have these number as you can but but it is going to change but this this document is the first contract outside of pulmonary engineering that we enter into for the life of the project so these numbers for the engineering comparable to apply for funds but right now that's the big one and so we so we're asking for additional e one hundred fifty thousand of the grants range in terms of award size anywhere from eight to ten thousand all the way up to the highest i saw  done historically on the city hall property in the police station property it was conceptualized that we would only if we moved to the front of the o c c building we would only need about a third to a half of that space and so therefore we'd be interested in fully developing out the street front with a community park doing affordable wash housing option at that space seems to be very logical to us and especially the model c h p is looking at which is a horrible home ownership option so townhouses or condos where people are really invested in their in their property we think would be a good match and also they don't they can do that project they believe without low income tax credits which we would likely not get int permian study etc they for that application that they need they don't necessarily need site control but they need to know the site won't be sold out from under them so what this pre development agreement says is that we're interested in exploring this that we commit to not approaching another developer to use the front portion of the o c c for a specific time and actually that time has changed since the straps of the straps as june thirtieth and it would