minor one which i've actually talked to jeff about once before it is this summer was like there was received a lot of work in gravel which is really and then apparently the state came through with we can look at doing something different the next time we do it downwards so that it's not a suburban feeling that's a big big disappointment specially in we accepted that grant we didn't feel there's anything wrong john is right there are a lot of signs or a lot of signs on huntington road also but no nobody has had any negative comments about issue for a lot of people it is for me too but i think that the the long term undeniable demographic trends in the state declining student enrollment mean that we have to take a different perspective on how best to control costs and and this is not the only thing that needs to be done in the long term and not the only way to do it but it's a concrete step that we can take now and i'm going to be voting for that in the richmond is aimed at a number of things in terms of natural resources are cultural resources historical resources looking back to some of these pop left is the entrance field or the code on this businesses which comes from those who come here to use these kinds of resources and otherwise we support them with this nation's somebody else's need not be a solution lots of people do these things since the last that have to come forward in terms of getting expert advice feed on the ground kinds of things that will inform the town what it ought to do or for that matter what it ought not to do there's at least one other little two other things in the pipeline but we're not ready to see anything further except that there exists i don't want to read this now or one of the things that has to be deliberated or you folks have had something to do with this is the article itself i  you have questions but i like to ask conservation commission members if they want to s principle upon him yet to receive any response whatsoever from the girls other than their original plan which is to remove the game and so now we have to move as a community if we should choose do you the language outside of the meeting and then bring it back for public hearing when it's time but in the search any other questions or comment on the language i will discussed again probably  the end of november we have probably at the end of november when we have to have public hearing to make a printemps time so we have to do this as poking this question ok so whatever we'll talk about it again at the end of november when the language has been finalized so any other comments or questions from the board i'm sure there's someone in the audience anyone there's   the same expenses other than we are asking for one hundred percent increase in contributions to the library reserve it's already fairly modest i think at eight thousand dollars and we're asking for the town to begin reflecting on bennett and providing a larger plan tribulation to the physical plant and this is a building that was constructed in eight hundred seventy nine and it's had several renovations but the shell is still eight hundred seventy nine  hundred seventy nine its siding to a certain extent has been replaced but it is an old building and it is in need of ongoing and constant expensive repairs and we the building that was made noticed got attention in the pre press on friday as a significant architectural contribution to the months landscape and it is of you know the town own building but it is i would say one of the most well used community buildings and our space is used by a variety of groups the select board including the water sewer commission included it's used for cultural events it's used for movies used for early childhood it's used for homeowners association it's used for political caucus meeting and there really is no other space in town that i'm aware of that  rentals for the community space and now that income comes from private business meetings that are not community meetings they come from birthday parties baby showers so we do have a certain amount of revenue warm that we contribute to the town so it's not we were doing our part so to speak to try to you know self you know help thousand in the maintenance line is absolutely routine expenses there is they are at maximum efficiency i mean right out you get two hundred fifty dollars for an elevator alone very inspection expenses to clean isn't there and there is there has not been any fact in there there's it's really just every day expenses for keeping the equipment with the natural gas conversion track because we in the last fiscal year we had two major expenses there was the rebuilding of the bridge streets late steps and and that's an emergency exits and the cracked and that had to be you know the septic company had to come dig it out excavate replace all the piping from the building to the to the main line so the money that was set and that's going to happen this fall we have had flights from the people who have come to look at it that once they get up there and they start putting in new pieces of slate and taking out the broken slate they may see further damage we are i guess what we've done is borrow ahead on post ended up postponing jobs so that's got to stop that first of all if you just because it's not a good way to operate on this company plan it's understandable given their agencies that have happened in the last few years but i guess before we go any farther what i would say to the board is very we need to see this whole section of the capital plan itself free reign so we know what exactly you know eight thousand additional dollars in the reserve is is slated for so if we do approve that i get it seems like there's projects in mind like the slavery of that probably just need to be written into  where we go with oh i'm actually i'd that's more built into this this staffing it's more of a manpower issues that a technology issue people to help patrons and troubleshoot there's a interim but we actually have we have four smaller rooms on the top level that were first created as music practice rooms that really never developed there was no music program coordinator it is not something i thought at the library should try to develop a music school so but we have these four rooms that are used by people when they say we need i need a quiet place to work i need a quiet place to tutor i need a quiet place to take my certification and i need a quiet place to do a skype interview with somebody so it's it's really become quite  plan projects because right now there's only been one plot in the fed chief something comes up there's only one place to pay you know our vendors their contractors  feel like these projects are obviously significantly delayed and are not priorities at this point and so when we look at it we can't can't tell the difference between between what you're doing and the fact that you are going to speak of these things but not on paper front  just review the contract that we signed with them say i remember discussing it like a five year plan where if we paid for five years and they did like part of the reassessment right i'm going to butcher this but  because you can't do all of prove it or you can't have a conflict west i agree with that as long as we make sure that as we go through this process that we are always looking at apples to apples and so that if we take it out of this year's budget that it not be and when we're comparing it's last year's  i don't know if it would be fair to not show it because if it is approved then it is going to affect the fact the bottom line and i understand why you wouldn't show it so i guess but we have a way of  show i mean we there's they're expensive proof from the floor on a regular basis and then we we do an analysis showing with the aggregated impact of all of the expenses including the budget have on the tax rate regular the general fund budget right so there's no the if so if that article failed on australian ballet that would supersede the vote to adopt the budget with that and of thank you so we had a library budget in we increased the school resource officer revenue so what does that mean right now  and so we anticipate those you know when we sent that sheet out to people right so for those who don't know we have a new process requiring answering a survey  demonstrating that you need in your organization's impact on the community so we'll be seeing hopefully the quest for that money that has been traditionally appropriated ok so the development review board are there any applicants for that at this time there are two openings is my understanding at this time that's correct ok mr solomon is new to town and then i believe elizabeth wright is also new to town and no not new to town i believe she is new to serving commissions here with new fresh blood and and and new members to serve on hopefully to have glorious careers in the future of serving in richmond boards and commissions i would like to recommendations on mission regulations and the sometimes questionable not being clear on the regulations so that the d m v has a problem trying to make decisions based on meeting th a level of understanding of the existing regulations and have the knowledge base of what it means to approve a project at that level and i think going down the road i'd want to get a better feel for the other d r v members and how they think and how they process the regulations to know what another person what somebody i might come across in the community might add to that board i think it's important not to just have somebody sit on the board that i might try to recruit myself but somebody who might have a different viewpoint than i have so that it had something to be decision or or conditions or things like that that might be something i didn't think of so i think i want to get a better feel for the other members before i you know try to convince somebody else to dedicate time and energy to something that you know the regulations are difficult at some points to understand i'd like to request that twenty fifteen so i can see what kind of commitment that is especially going through a basketball season where i actually was walking off that day from my schedule to coach on the way to middle school so if you're a busy time period for me but if i block it out of the schedule i commit to that night because that little bit of march you know i can come back in front of you in march if i so choose to continue on if that's unless there's five other folks looking for the same chronic vacancies i think it's important for the slick board to act to fill the can i just address that to just i have to think it's very important that i divulge that i have hired david sunshine as my attorney in the past so i have know and i think it's general knowledge that i did i mean i normally do ss but but that you have worked as a developer at times and in the towns like in the town i built a house and sold it after i lived in it for continue on in that role it's you guys now that you've asked me to continue on with the applications i think honestly those applications just like you know water is applications were at the federal definitely would be i would definitely be there on behalf of the property owners in the town in southern european member because i think it's important for i'm going to drop the ball on anybody the they're vandalized or setting up an unsafe situations we contact the state fire marshal and last week jesse de becky who's a state farm or show came and met myself was going to be involved to secure the the building he suggested that the town and the owner talk about what we're going to see so we're going to reach out to mr castro and talk about that and since then i haven't had a chance to be able to do that have just been too busy during the past week that i am going to reach out to him but mr beck is report hasn't been issued that i'm aware of either bar did you want to add anything to that quote yes we should just follow the record he was windows the door secure the idea is for the building especially one that you want a building that is not easy to enter and there can be accomplished a couple of have a firm plan yet but what we would do basically set out this is this is our goal is what we think we need and submit this by the end of next week can see where it went and if it and move the process the line we've got feedback from someone who has gotten feedback from some local developers that it in its current state is not very attractive and given the clean up that has to occur in the current price the numbers  in the next week ok so we have a memo from the police chief regarding canyon road and there was a discussion i was meeting about speeds there and i will read from ha had his officers doing directed patrols on the hood so there's definitely has been any increased presence and i don't know how the status pulled but they physically noticed your new car off the road into the ditch to get out of the wa ok thank you for the carpenter properties so seems to be e mails about that from people in the community recently jeff what is the status first of the property people wondering what's going on there they're going to do with it we need parking i'd say that we don't really have time or gravel in this fiscal year to do anything on their property but if we want town as to what happens with it rather than just moving ahead and creating parking or whatever and i would oppose that we have some public meetings you know one one or more of these coming up where people can  that certainly certainly it is something that if it and if if we if this board wants to do anything next next summer spring we need to build it into the budget now so it's probably not going to be free specially putting a parking lot there something would be free and or ther into the foundation whole so there you know there's subsurface stuff going on and you know in the meantime i had asked jeff today actually if there's anything you know like a train right so that and that's a good step over just to make sure there's not cars going around them getting in using it in a way that we haven't authorized yet i'm just thinking in terms of we just talk about  think that's just what we're going to do is start this public process to solicit input and if we could hear back from people by the seventeenth of november which is two m we know enough about it and i think the uses are too limited to hold a separate dedicated to i the census pretty limited myself you're right i mean it's kind of just there and i think you know it's nice to board could discuss what we see as proper as possible projects there and next let's put that list out for comment versus an open ended discussion you know some some hard wood for a project in working out and talked to this is a sample of one so it's obviously not scientific but there's the estimate of the gentleman that i was talking to was that it  use it and then you need to season it so you have to please to get any sea there yeah i'm going to replay both that but i think we need to be realistic about the costs that are involved elm is difficult to work with if you act like beautiful but  we can also solicit ideas for somebody to harvest that section of the trunk and do something for them to get it right so here's here's things i just think i should negotiate with the tree service and say if you give us the trunk what's the price going to be he goes and and then if i work something out with that then all i have to figure out where this humongous trump is going to go west main through the gateway district and also the side opposite of that off of the side through to the water commissioners furring that to that as the study area because we are studying the feasibility of doing that so naturally if we extend water sewer into that area it's very expensive project to take advantage of that extra capacity it makes more sense for people to be able to build more than a single family and there are several single family homes in the area it's my hunch that there's no incentive for somebody in single family home to take advantage of that for the capacity  tens of thousands of dollars to do so so the suggestion was revised a gate way to increase the development bill of the of that area and take advantage of that water sewer capacity so the water sewer commission is working on costs and a proposal to extend the utilities which will then go to a neighborhood vote see if that area  that to be extended and then also additional votes on whether or not we've gone for the project and maybe some conception of that it's also in the planning commission is working on revising the regulations for the gateway district to allow that area to have more development provide which would be provided by this one or two capacity so they they sort of both we really need to happen maybe not the same time but it's sort of if you have one and not the other i don't think either one works separately and it's very difficult process it's going on you know the funny commission is struggling with some language and they have a special meeting this wednesday evening prior to the d r b to try to hammer out some some language that they would bring to a hearing after that hearing if they made no amendments they get to this like or dislike or they would have a hearing  r on deadlines to be able to put anything on the town meeting back so you know things have to happen in a pretty short order in order to put them on australian ballot either not not only does anyone vote with the water commission which would deem appropriate but the approval of the new regulations so things are coming and there are still a lot of unanswered questions and i know people are working i think that's a good summary of it there are a couple of twists about you know what would the expense be how would we pay for the expense for water sewer there's also another issue that's not in the water sewer commission about the pows road from the school they're going through the rape those are two different questions right which opens up a condemnation and special bonding to the select sector i don't know if that applies here but he's going to do a report saying we were awarded a grant for fifty percent of the cost of the required recycling buckets with or volunteers green which is these things are enormously expensive so we're going to get about seven hundred fifty dollars grand it's going to cost us about seven hundred fifty dollars to get these recycling containers and we're not going to get the right away because parts going to close down very thing burner for who knows why but now they are cranking it up again and saying you requested the hearing you need to start scheduling pre hearing meetings and i want to confirm with the select forward that we're going to and we have this on twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen status reports so what's a where are we with the two things one like the final wrap up with the c p a to the cottage so the auditors of completed their field w which was the deadline we set for perfect so what i'd like to do is bring the twenty fourteen report back at the november third meeting as a item under their business and discuss it and  i think that will compliment or perhaps at the same time we're discussing the budget here will complement things and we'll be able to give you the time it deserves meanwhile any questions on the twenty fifteen status or current year status jeff anything to highlight there nothing in particular a couple of my way items which have been expensed out on first orders but other than that i think it looks fairly normal first quarter tax revenue is a little low yeah that's not unusual tends to be low for three quarters and then for support people tend to catch up and ok so this is going to sound petty but we way overspent office supplies last year and it you know and everyone including myself and now we're at like thirty three percent but we're not one third of the way through the year are yeah and i don't i'm sorry realize that i have not been doing my job reporting as the c r t c feel is excellent and i should probably briefly do that i'm still kind of figuring out what the heck is going on and i've only been to the meetings but in case people are interested some of the topics that have been there were present at the last meeting included a lot of work being done on interchanges off of eighty nine state are working towards an agreement about how that's going to be mentions likely to have a big impact either on us or on farms and probably on both and then know and then finally also interesting discussion of the public engagement and participation plan which the county has to happen place and is plan to mitigate through our culture or through some of the other it's interesting is the science of it which i'm just beginning to grasp now because roads are not a minor part of this either but ph doing is essentially using that as a way to put a lid it's where they've got political traction you know to get the state to take action because if they start threatening to to put the  they take it with them on the road no they could use they could use a canister i guess but it's quite common for these to take it