was objected to right well in fact when the court reviewed the will called the green cards for lack of a better description were they actually admitted into evidence now so is actual testimony where the two things that were admitted into evidence or why weren't they actually admitted somewhere well off but if you want to know that a lot of the short of the story is truth be told was because i was the second c things where my client showed up with it after me arrested but this it actually seems to require something more specific than what occurred correct well the statute requires in fact no so that's what this the statute of section twenty four this particular issue we either one of them asked if they had ever received it so already testified before it became an issue so he was not he wasn't asked a few he received  once it's all in place then we liberally construed the the payment or the or the need for payment or the propriety of payment and it seems like the court couldn't get past that part because although he did entertain the term where did entertain some evidence about maybe it was fraudulent he wasn't interested in that he was interested in the statutory authority and if you break it down one phrase at a time the first first ok did anything i mean he had a schedule i guess that did anything prevent him when you realized what was happening from being recalled maybe even as a  put on evidence that it was the the jump from twenty seven whatever twenty i'm rounding the number from twenty seven eight to one hundred ten something was a significant jump they didn't necessarily agree yeah it's one seventy nine and i mean did you try to ask well did when did you receive notice of this information did you ask that question twenty when did you realize that to that but mr johnson who allegedly was the one who would review those sworn statements never was called to testify by anybody he was there so i think that we don't know what amount the list of correct and so then you do the lying upon the of if a david which doesn't have to return receipts that was not put they got that notice was through these lines one of the question if we agreed with you the judge is apparently only needed finding on the issue of notice there is still an issue then outstanding that it yet keep your voice up as you can see the ceiling very high it's hard to so you think you're yelling but then we could really hear you ok thanks for that and so i believe yeah wasn't there that whatever cell c was owed was too much because there was fraud involved how did they know what was owed to solve see if they didn't have some notice about it now they were why isn't the testimony that noticeably was sent by certified mail sufficient together with the information on the written document that is a copy well what did it matter if they got i mean one of these tents or why does the intention matter carbon copy means they got an exact duplicate of what's referred to above so what is the intent what what would have been different in the version that they were quote supposed to get well first of all requested so if he testified he sent it out then why again isn't that sufficient together with what the black and white print reflect after ok so then he denies the motion and it goes on to your case in chief if you present no evidence concerning that and i'm not saying you have to if you present no evidence about those documents that he looked at to make his decision why can't they be considered as proof then that the  think nobody's really disagreeing that midleton received it the disagreement did it was then that they received a certified beyond and that's the purpose of the statute if you get a return receipt requested you don't have to go through the hoops and well but we don't have the numbers and we don't have any certified numbers next to their names day week but we have testimony from that time and that's i guess that's what i'm there did he know that i'll address did he know the numbers when he did he of the testimony at trial and you know in addition obviously the green cards were attached and part of the record i think you heard there from mister i think we think both parties for the