evening welcome to the foxboro select men's meaning tuesday october twenty eighth go through the agenda seven p m we have citizens and put topics not reasonably anticipated by the chair forty eight hours in advance of meeting seven o five we have a selections update seven fifteen the maya super bowl requests for fee waiver has been withdrawn seven twenty five we'll have a discussion on the special town meeting warrant article for town hall by bill and david at seven thirty five the town hall working group david will give us an update and seven forty five bill will provide us with a town manager's update bob is going to give us an update on veteran's day activities everybody to attend including the town manager an assistant town manager thank you but i know that everybody doesn't have the day off they're encountering that and what we decided to do it on the traditional day just to keep to they'll be performing their patriotic mandalay and their you know you know tribute to the armed services and songs that they sank so we're looking forward to hopefully having a good turnout and people coming out to help support the veterans of foxborough think what time to the activity start a leaven o'clock on thursday at the here at the high school auditorium after the event in the cafeteria they'll be refreshments served again this year so very simple on thanksgiving day when mansfield plays foxboro and vice versa we invite all of the veterans that want to sign up come to us to receive a free turkey when you get that i think probably the weekend before thanksgiving and try to encourage the veterans and their families to attend thanksgiving game this year it's going to be over in mansfield and what we did last year was to set up if you want to call it a v i p tent  had the veterans in the families allowed to go right to the end zone and watch the game from there and allows the kids to kind of see and talk to the veterans not only at the game but when they deliver the turkeys we had some nice cards they think  a bunch of handmade cards and passed them out with the turkeys the week before so it's just a nice thing to do for the kids and get the two generations together and it was very well received foxborough touched touched on club and  cards feel free to email me or give me a call i'm going to put something in the paper thursday he'll have that contact information and then we are looking for some donations we had one very generous donor donor last year and  you want to make a donation you can make a check out to the foxboro touchdown club that's at p o box for sixty five and any donation is appreciated and basically one hundred percent of it goes right to the the touchdown club would the turkey last year stop and shop give a discount to the turkeys and we didn't turn anyone away we asked people if you could sign up beforehand by emailing but if you show up the day of the game or give a call  ok so we have a couple minutes before the special town meeting warrant article does want to do some action items for the next one is from one of the the foxboro cultural council is a state mandated town board that provides access to grants promoting the ats humanities and interpretive services to far terms expiring october twenty eighth two thousand and seventeen and thank them for their service in the last item is the minutes for the word fourteenth two thousand and fourteen i know that the board of selectmen except the meeting minutes of october fourteenth two thousand and fourteen as written are as amended seven up from the bottom mr keegan stated that they can have the just insert signed by law review committee that the same topic came up about three years ago at this meeting and it was our top former time manager kevin pecos it should be a period after that and then i'm sorry kevin pickles who proposed fixing the roof then a period capital improvement i said why would we do this if we are going to get a new townhome next year so i just didn't want to put that on the shoulders of the selectmen or do wonder look like i was saying kevin pecos was doing something that he shouldn't of done so you're say revenue which it indicated in their in their city and state opinions that this would not qualify as a something we could wave because they don't qualify as a public as a there is a public charity the deal way in the deal and a deal are you are you are the our department of revenue and the deal are responded back that there's no precedence on it and then they were silent on it because they they basically said we could do it w couldn't do it and there's no there's no decision so if that came back from the deal why i think that's important to understand because if that's the case if and when this comes up again with a different nonprofit charity group that may i ask i don't taxes agreement where you gives us the ability to set the price and set the parameters for instance a ticket price you know can we lower the ticket prices that giving away money can we raise it i think this particular case is that i kind of hung my hat on what the attorney was saying it was and whether there was actually a letter that was actually issued to the board there was an e mail or it was in you and i have it here it was a letter from ou collins was back in november of two thousand and eleven and basically randy says here it is and he sent it to sandra but it was from rod hoffman was at duran's and it was a clean page of his work and at the end of this he basically sign horror for you to see it if you read it it's it seems pretty clear that and it's i understand why it's one of the way it is because in this particular case it's interesting because we actually pay fees t argue for again liar or what they're entity is but if we've got a lease agreement that says one thing and we've been an attorney that we paid for says another thing and then you're saying something i think we need some closure on it so sure this comes up next year or two years or  maybe there's a group of who knows what it is and it may touch our hearts that we say yeah that makes sense can we do it or can we do it well i think if it's not a if it's a publicly owned charity or it's a  charitable organization like a five on c three type of thing i think that's a different different issue where is the difference is there not a charitable organization so i think that's what the language specifically in the least as charitable vocational technical school in franklin they had an angel selections conference and which is very interesting and i turned it last year and i attended it again this year and what it is is just the  first order of business business is just a kind of a discussion our presentation by m m a jeff back with on what's been going on in the state and how it affects towns and legislation coming up in all in all it's up to about a half hour presentation and then they break out into different sessions and mr keegan was a speaker at one of the sessions in regard to town charters always it was very interesting and in a was really good because i got to see some of the selectmen from other towns that i'd spoken to last year and we were able to catch up on what had what with their issues last year and how they had resolved them and it was a good networking networking session so they'll can explain what he talked about thank you it was the i had the opportunity to speak with my own betrayers who is works for the department housing community development and marilyn has worked for the state for thirty five years for the same agency you know it doesn't happen very often that some of the work that they want the same for the same state agency but she's probably one of the leading experts in the state in terms of how charters have been develop six or seven different titles for the chief administrative officer and so there's no set set term for that and even the term time major is actually interpreted different ways and other times as well so it's interesting to just you know talk about the different aspects of that and how every single shot of virtually has a different nuance to it because there's there was some political snag along the way that to cause it to be to go in a different direction whether it be the level of  power for from a certain board not being centralized versus versus being decentralized because there was a concern that that might actually upset the entire charter process so it does vary from place to place because of that the different nuances services you know well people go out and visit you know those committees and talk to those those folks and in the past few years i've actually visited probably half a dozen communities just talk to them about their process so it's just a free service we provide you know it's something that they have their annual meeting in january which i think will be ten minutes it's very good because you get to meet people from all over and there are every town is different but every town has the same article one for the architect to design services that would be responsible with designing the new town hall and the second would be for an overall project manager who was it was an o p m and both those are a piece went on the that process that we chose the firm of l l b so you may recall that they were the design as an architect for the for the library i don't want to really get nervous about the fact that because it's a different design that's going to be you know it's going to be it's at that time wasn't like that we were very clear about the fact that we want this to be a colonial design so i don't want that to be a question in anybody's mind and there where that is why and they have done such designs on the locations the second thing is  where it's three dimensional design where you can actually show three dimensional models of how the building will actually work in function and it's actually quite helpful in terms of providing information to the public on that in terms of what we're proposing three they're one of the four firms that we looked at three of those firms actually provided that but ellaby had the combination of that design level as well as the fact that we've worked with them previously we had never experience with  then did a beautiful job i mean really c'mon lace so we were very much impressed by that and they kept that private online pomponne time and on and on budget and so we were very much interested in talk and for that reason i think so then we went to the negotiation phase in a police report that we had estimated this project to me about five hundred fifty thousand dollars the actual price they were going to submit to tell me is five hundred fifty seven right so we need to take a vote of support for this article with this price tag now that we have the numbers we have in motion or for that please on this project but i've worked with the brand new projects renovated projects the design is impeccable and a lot of times that firm gets carried from the soft cost with the design all the way through construction i'll be having our final working group meeting that's open to the public opportunity for people to come in and asked specific questions and get very specific answers  ot we have and what our cost is we can we can discuss those costs and i think you know that the working group in looking at at the drake it project and looking at the square footage is everything that we went through with basically setting aside the k v a report and doing our own study as led us to this point i think i don't think anybody can say that we didn't do our homework in developing the strategy so i'm i'm proud to be a member of that working group because i know the work that we're that everybody put into it there was a lot of debate and i think at the end of the we read a point now where you know we may be spending a little bit more money versus a renovation but you have to understand it's not apples to apples to apples to oranges the difference was at the start it's sixteen hundred square feet so i don't think we want to be of point three years from now or four years from now that we're out of space at all i think it's it's money well spent is in and we may not end up in that direction john alleviate the issue is that we don't have any kind of regulation and that sort of you know holes a standard for every every want every one of the vendors in town so all the words you know there are safety issues that we should be looking it's working fine and we can we may end up in that same situation with the one thing we have to be constant of though is that the contractor that does have the contractor currently is also picking up the trash you know so there was talk of various locations so at the end of the day we're going to have to have we may have to contract with somebody to buy that service for us but if in fact it comes to a situation where there is only one of two vendors are going to actually going to collect all the t i mean i'm not i'm not really in a position right now to say it's a good idea to get in the way of a free enterprise here because a maybe that's the best way to go but by the same token there should be a standard that everybody falls just really a standard duly worked his tail off over the last couple years and build his business in foxborough on top of a debacle that i think the town had a good share of responsibility in creating so he's built his business he's invested he's he's employees all different types of people in town if we're doing anything that's going to change the regulations in contract that's going to put him in a disadvantage i think you need to reach out to him sooner than later i agree with you i'm cool with yeah it's over regular not a big fan of regulating i just want a great job as i saw what happened last year with the board of health with going over what was more strict than what the state has on the board of health now is not picking on the board to help but they're looking to change sceptic cesspool regulations past the state regulations if we don't need to regulate fair market will find its niche russell find its nature a j do a little find his niche sometimes when you need to stay out of it and this is coming off of an administration before you hear that i think townhall had a big hand in screwing up a lot of the stuff with the want to be clear about my position on this is that i think what i'd like to see is that there's a there's a consistent standard called with which we provide the free enterprise service in this community so that people is your you know that's where there's no disagreement on that yeah i mean i you know you don't have to tell right now because i want to check your schedule  at seven o'clock on thursday night and anyone has any questions about the project we courage you to come and ask ask away finally i have not heard anything yet from from the state relative to a hearing on the train issue i know that you know there's been some speculation about you know and i just want their way to hear directly from me i have not heard anything back my understanding is that they're still trying to do to brief both the state representative in the state senator on this matter they had a date apparently last week but then i could then they had to cancel because there was no there was there was a problem with the calendar well the problem so they had to resolve that they would remove that move that members attend bill myself and randy collins came and randy was able to the board that board hadn't met in over a year probably closer to a year and a half and so randy came and gave like a history of how our compensation plans and bylaws have changed over the years some the studies that have been done and we actually we're all a very like mind that you know we think that there needs to be some compensation review of o not only our balaban of our compensation plans and we're all in agreement that has to be something you know we want to pay people to the market right but we also want to have internal equity and apply it in a fair way and then obviously a sustainable pay plan that you know randy can budget for so we had a really productive meeting the group is going to meet on a regular basis i would like to be able to review and revise the buy a lot of preparation for an all t meeting so we thought about we're going to probably try to convene on mondays and wednesdays like a five thirty time slot work for everybody so we haven't set up the next meeting but we felt very positive that the group wanted to be back together and you know after talking to the employees we've engaged in contract negotiations with groups this week and today we met steelworkers and dispatchers are this week as well as fire and we just feel a need that there's been a lot and for those folks who are i'm retired three plans for the town we're looking at some lower cost options coming up maybe of a new plan that might be in and out of option two it and some other creative ways to get around prescription costs as well so we're looking to advocate for retirees in that way and also on now with our unemployment and worker's comp vendors to have to say the town has two very good policies in place but one of the things that seems to have been lacking is the communication in the rollout of how to actually work the process and procedures for handling those situations so more closely with department heads and people who are involved in the process on  think i will say this to the end that even those that we had differences works with certain folks on the committee those those differences were important because they actually want us in directions which we do think about sometimes but i think it