we say something to the effect of that the ninety six will should be admitted to probate and some of the defendants have made the claim that that's and envision ninety six will will be met the problem is what is going to be in the state if it is and so under the cases we side we believe that that claim is speculative in out how you can establish and expect to see unless you necessarily rely on admission of the nine six otherwise what would you expect and see dean how was it to manage well first of all if for some reason the ninety six well a process would not be admitted or probate if in fact this revival if you start out with an expectancy and that expectancy is maybe to get a job and income from a trust that's what your father was to give yeah that sounds like to me the expectancy that you're talking about in the future and any between all sorts of things can happen that might alter that but when you're complaining about someone interfering with your expectancy they're asked to be expectancy to be interfered with and yes i mean there's got to be a baseline and it seems that i was there seems to me not us i don't speak for my colleagues it seems to me that the expectancy then would be this world that i like that i want to admitted to probate i don't disagree with you you're a i agree to a point when you talk of it as a  say and essentially the only person he benefited in that well was my client his own daughter and it is a little complicated but part of the assets of the trust that she has rights which are very significant from an economic standpoint under them will and under the presence of stablish in the ninety six will so the baseline is not what it sets the baseline is not what the ninety six will say yes what's going to be there if we are successful on that will come and the answer is the will contest is not adequate really because the answer to what's going to be there the but for your interference with that i'm not getting x and instead i may be getting y and what we are here today on is half a decade in this case trying to get the  t to put forth what it is she alleges my client and the weight individuals took from her that she was expecting to get from her father well as they played in their petition for four times now early expectancy is the one nine hundred ninety six will trust which they allege should be admitted to probate now what they're arguing is basically we don't want that to happen or might not happen but for the fact under that will she took the following household furniture and furnishings all deals and personal effects well the appellate has failed to put forth in any of the pleadings that have been filed is any allegations against the individual defendants how any actions from us interfered with her getting household furniture furnishings all beals at her father's personal facts they make a big argument about if we prevail on the will contest my client gets virtually nothing well based on the ninety six will which she says was her father's testamentary wishes she was going to get virtually nothing anyway she got nothing in that will other than what i just mentioned one neighbor dinner together very well but i thought oh yes mr took that question and he said she got everything going on what the will says play there is a point of view executor she gets all household furniture and furnishings automobiles and personal effects the residue to the successor trustee under the trust that is a poor over trust and under that trust she took very she she  became the trustee she had the power to get some medical treatment if necessary is deemed by a trustee in a position she had upon the death of her plate of her husband all remaining estate goes to the wave nature foundation and she got a salary from nature us cutie yes ok yes correct down that has to establish what it is she is claiming that's my expectancy you tortur took something away from susan barr and either he took himself or somebody else caught it in fact if you look at the allegations which we put in our brief there are copy job of the second amendment which was dismissed which is alleging things as such as she escaped to get a million dollars and the station got three hundred thousand well that is part of the trust documents which they claim are invalid anyway that was in one of the amendments to the to the trust to the leisure later to us that isn't even an issue there's allegations that cropland was a solo by courtney wade in the complaint against bill keller there's allegations that she lost her residence in the state of illinois there's allegations she didn't get the affections of her father plain and simple that is irrelevant what we have to look at is what is she saying she was going to get she's saying she was going to get in one nine hundred ninety six on the my dad's valid will that's why i take and we have to look at what that instrument says and what we've never got in this case unfortunately that we're here forty five years after it was initially fired was what did any of these individual defenders do to tortuously interfere with your experiments and if i think what we're here for today which is to six fifteen to six nineteen we have to assume the facts as they play that which is that ninety six will is the will and it should be admitted to probate now under that theory what they've pled that will get it what they're asking is to say yes we played but we watch in court to find that it's incorrect that there could be a chance that it doesn't happen well that's the premise of oh she was going to get was the automobiles the house or furniture furniture and the furnishings under the will and there's been no allegations anywhere that anyone took j awaits calyx that you know was transferred out she isn't going to get that ninety six in that sense so continue to say she's going to get household furnishings i mean ok it in your mind the presumption would be i'm going to get a decent i'm going to get a good salary and going to get income because i i think i have this is that this is a great business and sometime in the future my father's vision and what the money would be given to do the foundation would occur well there's no plea as to what covers their expectancy and her claims of what her father wanted now the trust very well that i mean there may be a income and she got to be an employee of a business which is a corporate business state of illinois ordered records etc that you know she she she didn't get that and but but the only thing she got was you know some medical treatment if necessary and i think one point with that is all these allegations that she's a basically if you want to get down to the nuts and bolts of the case against bill keller it's about practice case what they're basically alleging that he assisted these few there's nothing in here that says he took you know he got a million dollars or anything you know she was the benefit of she continues on that she was deprived of access to her father i mean that's just not part of what we're here for that she lost you know  the benefit of property but it doesn't say who what where when how so i think the the point of where i'm going with with all argument is we've been at this now this is the fourth time they've tried to plead this cause of action and out once see no questions thank you rebuttal please complete once then he granted the motion to reconsider then we got into a brouhaha about this is adequate really and he was on the verge of making that decision when he recused through the ninety six will because it turns out that the court is intensely years and we have three things in the ninety six doc so we have will we have a trust and in the will there's a reference to the way nature foundation the problem in this case and the problem of susan has died god help us if she would end up as the heir in this case instead of  estate taxes which will be i can't remember the certainly more than a million maybe more than seventy but any of it that technique is there but the thing