sleazy i'm only talking about new spaces and then i talk i have to use things like the existing time out there i think there are other things related to that grabs other personnel that are related segments got to sweep it periodic they someone's got to clean up around it but those costs are incremental and i factored into the operating costs we should be looking at this is an opportunity and it's sort of grown now that people come forward with their ideas and for me this is an opportunity to improve the system to  to rate the additional new that we need to make some of these other things happen it's been a frustrating process in the capital planning process to make some good things happen that people want to ha better sidewalks better bus routes and those things can't happen if we don't find a way to create the resources to do that because they're always pulling away from other services that we already provide and i think with this kind of an approach that we over a period and have an opportunity to correct some of those deficiencies that we see coming in our system still i continue to have that view about his  might be hard to keep that in mind part of the point here is to make this a funding mechanism that will carry all of them and provide the resources for whether you have to find their favorite city or party poison the walk from there but also because it provides revenue to the town and i think sometimes i've heard comments or read comments in the paper that sound as if some people really don't want business in the center of town or at least they don't want to be there any more business any other business or any bigger businesses that we are in camp i don't think people really mean that i think they're just  frustrated but we do want business and i think we do want it especially in the center of town i can't think of a better place for it and for that to be true the people who own the business is the people who work there  people who want to be customers have to be able to get there and that means leaving the car somewhere in almost every case except for when i'm not trying to drive mr grant out you know  things here that one dollar could twiddle with but i note that overall it looks like about eleven percent you know that surplus of the book conservative projection is about represents eleven percent of the total cost which is a pretty good margin you know you could you could lose some of these assumptions and still be quite comfortable so i'm reassured by that and of course the finance committee got it last thursday night and you'll be continuing to talk about it so we'll get some more feedback you guys maybe he would come in here and go in here and go into the garage or hear and if you're coming out me you can go in straight here you come around that way coming out you can do the same thing as far as up and you can get out for the landing go right into the finger on and then on top so it means the funeral home has a direct access to either level ten and  building to the limits of a town laying it from a builder standpoint i've been very curious of how one builds to the edge of his property or was one gets  and then you won't have any cave in these buildings are back here now what you're seeing here is the potential additions all to this room to do with there what you need is the twenty feet and that would be cheaper than putting in sheet piling which is not which which point we're talking about whether i mean i found it very difficult somebody tried to tell the it would not be difficult to put in sheet piling on the property line and then work within the sheet piling i i have a question this is are you going to accept the responsibility for dropping the independent not blaming anybody just asking the question as to whether or not your petition article has a cost estimate that anyone will be able to look at before a town meeting it's going to be you know with yours you know i think we have one right had a glimpse of some of it on this but there are other questions that will surely come up just seems to be very important for people to be able to know what that is i don't know how we could make a choice anyone could make a choice otherwise i thought it was important it was very important a us what the cost of the grudge is what with whether this plan is going to work how much it's going to cost how it's going to pay for itself we don't have any figures to look at so that makes it difficult to have any kind of judgment about this garage versus the other one that's my st concern and it doesn't and i'm not an engineer so i certainly don't know whether this design in actuality will work one because of the amount of dirt on the st floor that's going to be there for the treats but there's actually  lot there that can be supported by that and we have there's no way to judge that in iraq that we won't put a plan before a town meeting there is it's not even built about how do we know  lot of stuff to try to get in place in a very short period of time but i don't want to pass judgment i was just going to say in fairness you know member in the st round of design there were questions about the trees and it turned out the fact that the original design wouldn't work so it changed and that was good that was helpful in their questions about the weight of work nobody liked it except me ok well it seems you don't i give you no i didn't hear that i say it would have worked everybody else was afraid to i guess i just i guess i like my question had to do with the cost for this project and i understand that there are cost estimates for a different project but i get very queasy when we start to apply cost estimates for different projects to the one that it isn't you know i mean three or four people praying for group and are given a sign to areas in town that have been mapped out for them very clearly designated on maps and they go to those there isn't a solicit funds for friends for homeless and yammers friends for the homeless then takes one hundred percent of that money and give a shit up between the grove street which is the closest shelter to him or the ember survival center the soup kitchen at the st church known as not bread alone and st call for help and last year what we've done is well in the ten years this is a big year just our chance here done over the ten years we've raised between twelve dollars fifteen cents well maybe i love it in fifteen thousand dollars in the three hours a work because the people go i don't want to clock in the back at four and this money as i said he just can't he just can't use it for better causes the need for groups and the thing the whole operation relies on mass infusion of people not asking for anything except volunteers to spend one of these beautiful new england for all afternoons and spend three hours going door to door collecting money it's not too late to get involved in the process if you'd like to volunteer i think the easiest thing at this point will be to ask you to give me a call at at your pencil and paper out other than the usual guy