boss what their point is that they did not know that it was work related the supreme court held that they do not need to know that it is work related not be told that it's work related and that was in in that case a garbage man goes home septic dies of a heart attack the spouse calls the employer in the says he died of a heart attack scream course that phone call is sufficient for knew that there is a heart equally to by both parties that rule makes sense employer cannot be held to the standard of a doctor work may be only a cause of the sore proximate cause in the stroke y the meeting immediately tense harshly through the intense meeting he looked over at fischer the petitioner started looking sweaty and started having them not looking well bryant testimony i don't know how much we got the decision back in two weeks from the arbitrate or can you propose decisions the commission didn't catch that fact that that arthur got it right in my opinion in the in the in the transcript where he over ruled the objection about the quote talking able to testify yet in the proposed decision says you it doesn't rise to the level of the cop case because it doesn't deal with safety and that's not the issue that that opinion over rules three supreme court cases county of cook he changed the how to do business mike i was making one thousand dollars a month and then this guy came in and changed how he was doing it it went down to four thousand per month and now during this meeting he comes and says it's your fault mr petitioner because stressful job caused by dirty names it's that maybe a hostile work environment but i don't think that's a stressful job now if you have this guy came in and fired a lot of people everybody says that this is a very high impact there but this is my witness everybody says this is a high stress job and it's not one where do you want fries with that type of job it's one where there's that there's a high high stress and everybody gets that and rejects that now and says no we're not going to add another another element we're not going to go there so and i don't believe the that case came i think back it should be to the brain when there's no incident there's no high blood pressure spike when that happens it's it's a completely different scenario and given all of these risk factors you know the uncontrolled diabetes type of pressure high cholesterol that was a type of stroke that he had if i can add to that it's not just a factor schumi dr moran wrote a letter to dr nora explaining how the diagnostic studies show that there's no scattered or they're all sclerosis throughout the cerebral arteries through the mechanism released by a well because it's possible i don't i mean we have doctors has found the time that something is possible but that doesn't change their opinion that doesn't create an opinion out of them  considered that this was a work related situation until almost two years afterwards you know so to say that you know he provided notice i know how the employer could know that it was really if he didn't know it was related to even trading with jack mcclintock all this time they never talked about it so to say that you know if everybody knew the same thing well everybody knew nothing so i don't think we're going anywhere that my brief i put some in argument about accident  part my client never never did feel that never even seen that form until we were we're getting ready for arbitration