basically ended the pain just gradually took over and he became more and more immobilized which led to these easy and the pneumonia which eventually cost is that you have an expert that said that yes the victim in the agni gun case he had injuries which paralyzed him and he would have been he would not died from those injuries except for the fact that he became more susceptible to pneumonia and that it's the law is that if the accident aggravates either a preexisting condition such as the c o p d or at least two other conditions which the deceiving leader gets that around and make it more difficult to fight pneumonia and being a more more gloomy ask about this question food if it is it more probably true the night in your opinion that there is no connection between the car accident and this man's death the doctor faber and he said i would have to concur with that he does do that but i think it has i think that testimony has to be read narrowly it not only nearly but i think it has to be read with everything else i think the way dr favors testimony is that the just the simple fact of being in this car accident did not cause by itself with nothing else not cause mr lowe to pass away i mean he didn't he did not is the pain and therefore there are a lot more immobile and then dr clarke also goes into basically what he's done of essentially what happened here is it may be helpful to work that basically with one of i think i think the phrase used was ending basically with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease an individual has insufficient oxygen supply and therefore the heart has to work harder pulmonary disease and then the chronic obstructive pulmonary disease was made much worse by the fact that he couldn't move around he was mobilized he was in severe pain and he had depression and that just meeting is  issues that would be excel or by his condition generally he says the jury could easily conclude that the disease suffer further complications and to pull teeth in affects from the x on top of the chronic issues he was already having but i think what's important to point out there is that listing condition he could have had all kinds of problems you jury could easily conclude that in his last few years he was having all kinds of additional problems based on his underlying condition due to being immobilized by the accident but then the  that and i think the truck or in this ruling how to recognize that wasn't true because the truck were saying we know we know that he's having more more many more problems with with this condition including the condition which is a factual factual basis for the opinion in here they are saying well yes he did not he did not die from these injuries nobody disputes that and they are saying is his is a medical can under his injuries  thank you well i think i think his testimony has to be read the i don't think is just enough to say that there is no connection i mean the the court i mean i think that would turn the result of these cases just on how the expert understood the question for example on amazon i mean they could have the expert as if they understood the question that way no he didn't die from the gunshot he died from the pneumonia but the but really what happened is or how much sooner did he die been unfortunately the reason that's not terribly clear is because the nature of the injury the defendant cause we we even that in the trial does as ever you would be understandably suspicious but the fact of there is whe nation such as middle of the neck and back injuries is going to have more trouble coughing and they're going to have a lot more difficulty fighting off pneumonia due to their inability of coffin and ability to move around basically  the doctors did say that i think maybe wasn't quite as clear is as we as would be an ideal but i mean dr clock i believe on pages twenty one twenty two of his deposition did say that mr  did have it experience an air condition in terms of his condition which made it much more which meet which made his pain much more worse and that basically he's going to have a lot lower activity level as as a result of what he had this accident and doctor thought also explain the science behind chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and and and pneumonia which is in both cases it's a degree and basically as it builds up in part due to mobility the disease gets worse puts more pressure on the heart and as a result the heart worse over time and eventually  court's opinion i think recognizes much other than i think the trial judge just got hung up on on the words connection without looking at just what what the rest of what the doctor sudden respect lisa that that all has to be read with in context which is i think what the doctors are saying is that no it didn't these injuries did not cause mr lowe by themselves to pass away but they made him that much  the weather without the injuries but the problem is once he gets those conditions similar to mysteries in the ad in the gun case he's just that much more susceptible to  any conditions such as this pneumonia as you know p t which he may get and that's thank you and that's basically i think what these pieces show is and they've gone and and the present case they both have the same especially the same factual basis which is if you're not able to move around you're going to be more more susceptible to this the c o p d n worse of up all pneumonia whether occurs before or after the injury doesn't really make any difference these cases explained how the whole how he basically die from heart failure which is his heart became a large butin the monia and the c o p d and i believe he was in the hospital for pneumonia with pneumonia several times before he actually before he passed away in two thousand  how much sooner the decision died because of the car accident which dislodged the person noma but here they're saying he's going to have much more trouble fighting it than they would otherwise and i i don't believe we should the end the injuries from this automobile accident certainly affected him a lot more than they would affects most people but the testimony was both lay and medical expert test mornings particularly dr clock that  have an aggravation of the pain which started as tough that the bible divide which was which but dr clark said he had an actor most likely he had an aggravation of pain which is a medically determinable impairment and he probably tired of the pain as depression became worse so now he's that is that is a greater there but there's also testimony that he actually was able to enjoy life before the session and then after that both lay in medical testimony that he and his condition just went