representation and preparation and the comments that i heard personally offended me hand there were comments like just got a bill it's too late we can't change any budget in presentation of the budget through the white wall here and i spent many many hours last year resistant to jam in the town of euro with additional information which we thought we had answered a lot of questions and got a lot larry on what our intentions are and i thought we had the board support during my tenure as chief i believe we always provided a budget to the slept worse the head of time along the detail report of line by line of what was going on we held joint meetings with underhill and europe of together to have the boards be able to understand the inside of what was going on in  budget review with detail why byline history where we need to go and where we want to go that's presented we asked for questions and comments and again to leave that we had the support of the budget or the  period and talked about department operations including budget and capital planning and the comments that i believe i recall were that were on the right track and are doing the right things i fully support that the huge yet he needs to be fiscally responsible to all the townspeople our custom recently my father was given a true word to a potential new member of the party who just moved to town i think we need to think before we go out to restructure a group of people that are willing to give above and beyond almost all citizens when the tones go out over my radio i yet all i just hope is to be able to return to my family safe please don't attack us like something out of control ask questions if you don't understand what's her constructive we can't as the work has been continuing from my perspective you have absolutely been honorable way forward and professional we've had some differences but not much and mostly they've been pretty easy to work out  i want you to know that any sense that that you have expressed tonight i hope you don't feel ever came from me i don't feel that way and i don't ever want to accidentally give that impression so it's not impossible for all you know but but i want you to know if i ever accidentally give that impression it was accidental and i apologize i sorry you feel that way as well if there was no intent on the board to make you feel that you were being attacked because you have over your tenure increased the work between the town and i know last year when i became involved with the budget that there was a lot of work spent working through and creating a new template so that the town its people themselves could understand what the budget was woods process was like those were emotional meetings and  unfortunately it's all but human nature that the negative is dwelled upon but the positive is often forgotten very quickly always being there whenever there's anything we can do to address the community i provided you with the annual report for the town of jericho it's been now transmitted actually today to the town along with  one and we are able to secure extensive federal and some smaller amount of state dollars to bring in for regional planning services on particular transportation services which are two thirds of  world program so it's a pretty decent return on investment for the region to address the various planning activities we do followed by the regional interaction we've got some highlights of the activities that  code effort at riverside including population forecasts for that effort and other utilization within the town we've been coordinating to assure that the all of the communities  your local emergency operations plans etc so that if there were a flood event you would qualify for the smallest amount of match that would be available to communities who have flood public assistance dollars and they're able to access  you know have a jericho matthew or online which you can use to look at a variety of geographic resources that are available for viewing by the public on this online service through our website there's a very cool inventories along with the detail the tape of your transportation planning your bank based on straight plan are nearly complete and so we're looking forward to delivering those final products to the community in the next few weeks and so  brown trays for my fifteen improved intersection of crewman project is coming along slowly but surely and of the five zero two hearing was held this past year to look at the right away issues and look at the preliminary designs and then of course your  pathway grant for your new project is also coming along so that's really wonderful that those kind of investments are now being made in jericho through the efforts of staff who have worked hard at getting the planning and applying for those grants as well as a side bar along the brown straits road so really great to see all those things coming into play in terms of the opportunity for advancing other projects planning for other projects in about a week or so i want to say maybe two blocks will be issuing our application for f y sixteen so starting july first we're programmed here the application will be coming to staff and any planning projects that you anticipate on the horizon for july through june of twenty sixteen we'd love to work with you to develop those applications and to look at it and he finally needs together a few things to mention that have happened at the regional level we just recently finished our public purchase of patient plan updated it's a federal required document that we have to update every five years or so  took the opportunity to do a very substantive update of our public engagement plan to basically look at the cross the spectrum of public participation depending on the scale of involvement the project might call for that we are reaching all the communities that might be affected oftentimes under served communities are not as likely to participate in the public process as you know for so i mean successor a and so i'm looking at creative ways that we can engage empower community members to participate and specifically reaching out when we know that there are under served communities in need to be involved and having their work she process to evaluate each project individually as well as an evaluation  process to document how with well we did with our gauge men so that we can improve it we invite you to look at the public engagement plan on our website some communities are looking at that as a potential framework for using in their own processes at the local level and so i think it could be a possible good resource for folks to engage with some other updates on regional activity we charlie will be reaching out to tom if he hasn't already with a survey related to shared regional services that folks might want to engage with that could be anything from really what happens with the fire a measure that might you might be interested in engaging a conversation with your g s and communities or other communities in the region so a survey on that the states also interested in sort of learning more about what communities might mean in these times of tight budgets and you know trying to required to submit a report to the legislature within a couple of weeks and we're just actually just yesterday the executive committee finalized some comments feedback from the regional planning commission solicited comments through our member communities and got some great feedback from both the communities that have been under a permit through their amas for requirements as well as many of the rural communities who have not been under that and as for perm it will be subject to probably future permitting for roadways a strong water surface runoff and other run offs that then contribute to phosphorous and lake champlain there's obviously going to be a lot of implications funding implications of the local level and that's an issue that we're monitoring closely and we'll be continuing to sort of follow with others as they as this unfolds and we see what the e p a is going to impose or what the state will offer up to the e in terms of how to meet those requirements for reducing phosphorus loading so a lot there to keep it keep track of also the department of environmental care conservation is going to be publishing the new river   you know where you feel that you are already sort of have things taken care of in early or adjusted things in a more comprehensive manner so that's something that i don't know how long the response time is going to be in terms of reviewing those maps and getting that information back obviously with floodplain mapping with thema that was a pretty lengthy process for communities to review those maps and get their comments back and so right now we're hearing that the response time for an arch it's not going to be maybe as high as we would hope it would be toward continuing to advocate for a longer period of that's definitely something to watch for coming up on december eighteenth we're going to be hosting a legislative breakfast for municipalities to come together on a regional basis to meet with our county legislators and the forum is the idea is to sort of get the input of member municipalities as what is your on your mind certainly tax implications for education finance and the usual list of things of that nature are at the top of many boards a agenda on the t m t and so we  years back we do feel indicators report which is kind of like performance measurement of how we're doing with implementing their plan how they metrics that we're monitoring through the original plan are progressing and that will be coming out in january and through the programs that you now have in place on the ride was developed to try and reduce the cost of trips so that we can have more trips delivered in the system there's an insert in there that talks about how many mean and then this is just you know playing devil's advocate because i think we need to make it more accessible from work until we can you has more parking available is that when we do town meeting people come in to vote and then they kind of stainless and stuff and we actually had people standing inside the polling place you know listening to town meetings i would think that lead me to see at least we have to have at least three hundred seeds i don't think so you know things i don't know i don't think contract sure so after the last two meetings where the contract was brought up and specifically the provision in the contract about as long as that the fire department has a mortgage and real property that in essence you know the town can't decide to break the agreement and do something else so i contacted the town attorney t gus that issue with him and what he said the town could do is essentially provide the fire department with notice that they intended to  renegotiate the contract and we have a piece of paper here in front of you but before that essentially provide them with notice that any any mortgage taken out and any real property beyond what is in existence as of the day of your notice would not preclude the town from being able to terminate the agreement not that the town wants to terminate terminate the agreement but that addresses that one specific concern and the idea being that you know so they could take out another mortgage if the town approve the budget but it wouldn't preclude that the you know the twenty year old agreement certainly needs updating but they also have as i understand it's a roof issues do right so what the notice would do is to address the concern that was raised about the mortgage issue without having to have completed a contract renegotiation to address it i get makes a lot of sense because that you know if they need to you know if once they send it if they need to you know fix the roof or something it's costly it's not going to impact w stand and i think that's where people were really concerned that it just keeps going on indefinitely so it's just you know but there's something that you folks and it's says of the part of the contract so it's something you can discuss mortgage for the station fifteen is paid off at that time and in our capital plan is thinking mortgage to repair the building the building at that point in time will be twenty efficiently there there is in previous meetings there is been a lot of discussion about that clause in the contract i'd like to point out that he original contract that was signed by the fire added to the contract that was signed subsequently on february twenty sixth was added the bridge was six so what you think the name of that year that year the same year that clause was added because the bank would not provide a mortgage the fire department the bill the station that was fully approved by both us like force so that clause wasn't put in there by the fire department to tie the hands of your town right right that was put in there by the legal teams to ensure that the bank would get paid back so that a lot of rhetoric about the cause and you know either the fire department nor either town of under the over jericho originally had that clause in the dock there are a lot of people out there who don't care to fire department that believe that we have a twenty year contract because that's the contract that they know of this contract was signed subsequent to that with very little which is have had many conversations over the last sixteen months about where's the department going what's what are we doing with the department what's the structure of the department of the structure of the department as it exists today has been around for very long time the needs are changing the requirements on the fire firm are changing hands we have full time employees to handle a lot of the aid work that has to be done and all that kind of stuff and is it not time to create to  in the planning of the town performs with water supplies you know tyler places is constructed with a lot of very expensive homes with the closest water supply being bustling it's a long haul and we did lose a house there recently so you know to get more involved in the town planning town zoning going perm applications to work with the town in the developers to develop water supplies when things are going in or for going to create industrial areas that part of the plane is to get water there so there's water for business or whatever it is and there's also water firefighting because that's that's all excellent why would that require a change in structure i mean that we could just do what we can we can it's just how do we do harry has a full plate with with everything that he's got going on a lot of those meetings happen at night it sounds so how do we accommodate all of that i mean i'd love to i love to come here and pass for three more people that budget but that's not you know we're not i get it here we're not there so is is there a fine i make a motion that we send a letter to the fire department that fulfills paragraph two of the protection of freeman that we are giving written notice that we came to me and said they don't want to look like bad guys but they're septic is a problem and they want to send that they wanted when the lease is up for sex and he'll they want to it is yeah it's they've they've repaired it it's grandfathered and during the process of having a grant fixing it they found out that the second hill school is part of that septic as well and they're concerned about continuing past the lease because sex and hills has more kids than it used to or use and it much more use and they're taking on seventeen more kids and so they're going to when the lease is up to term and they say they said i the concern is own well first of all we've had a relationship a less or less see bring the police with the sex of your school for nearly thirty years now for twenty nine years regional water pipeline goes across more middle of wetland so we began to look at the possibility of improving our expanding or relocating the  and the village of jericho office is there but it's a nominal usage from the old mill because gail prior who many of you know his brother richard and doesn't allow the general public coming through even though they might buy things from the get for your shop are now not allowed to use the facilities so there's very little users of the system buy in from the or me are in the town in the mill house with the two units and the rubbish removal so society these costs were not a brooklyn realtor we don't really make very much money and you are also very aware just  real estate business we're in the business of being an historical society of maintaining this historic property these three buildings the saxon hill school building was originally  facility for the mill and so it was never really feel as a structure to houses school and we were very concerned you might say the society field and sitting on  for if something were to happen to the system was put in also twenty four years ago we do have a bridge to inspect it every year we have flushed out every year for society's expense old with this increased usage of with the number of students have grown at the school from two hours seventeen or roughly twenty four to thirty now then you add an additional seventeen it's going to be a very worrying the other during that period would be not be able to use the septic system so the town this is not it could not generate income from its gift shop or visitors we would be a problem with our renter there the house and the school  d would have to shut down so we have discussed this at the society for about two years now we've been very aware of this issue so this year the board voted here this summer in september  do feel that in the town of jericho you have the church of good shepherd the lutheran church of vermont with fifteen did have a preschool program and facilities actually is larger and larger than  saxon held school similar sort of protection offering fifteen large parking area perhaps a larger playground which we understand is available then of course there's the underlying the possibility  meadows more development then put in a pumping system and the estimates from traditional consulting would be a minimum of seventy five to one hundred thousand dollars which of course simply can't afford nor we could come to the town we wouldn't in legal fees just for her bidding process and so this is kind of a guinea financial tsunami for the society and we feel we've been very good landlords for nearly thirty years perhaps the until school might need to read kind of think the whole issue through and they need to move on perhaps also if they're going to provide the pre k daycare facility for the jericho elementary do this but i think you know the town officials here in planning and zoning jennifer they're very aware when it happened also and we discussed this informally with the chair  select board is that over these past twenty twenty five years the same as the heart apartment written notice to us this morning today of our interest the regulations have so changed and so tighten up on what you can do and not do what you need to do it's the same with the septic systems and leach fields and rely on the regulatory requirements today are somewhat more stringent than they were five years ten years ago so for though we probably would do so yes but if we were you it would be perhaps an attorney's office or sure of the company's office for single maybe one or two employees it's just the the tremendous use only this old septic system about say fifteen twenty thirty children plus the staff plus the visitors so it's you know it's a it's really an institutional usage over of olfaction residential asked me to put this on the agenda that the town certainly is not in the position you are interested in where able to provide money for that septic systems because there are other private organizations that would then you know that w is you know anything that you're hearing from the community is not that you know we intend to stay there forever we're definitely mobilizing to do to move but we're worried about how much time we have  the ran up a thousand dollars a month so we also feel we've been very generous with these sacks until very reasonable for the rental cost because in frankly they get the maintenance i'd recommend that the board do nothing i don't think they're being asked to do anything except write a letter supporting their opposition no matter the point is you i make a motion to approve the application for a special event permit by huntington river vineyard l l c for the artisans market on november fourteenth twenty forty five day p m or second   he did i mean that was they i don't think realize that they needed a permit right away but the town engineer the town attorney or executive said this was extremely controversial couple years ago and needs controversial a couple of years ago and then on line seventy nine to make it clear we're talking about first we talked about the village center designation and then it said the boundaries must be included in the town plan he said ours expired if it's not clear what expired so it should say he said our designation expired right and that makes it clear to the public reading it yeah so if there's no others i make a motion that we will approve the minutes of october sixteenth  other subject of the firing budget we are putting the final touches on a draft budget and we will be coming to me very soon with catherine tart to discuss the budget and last year's expenses and where we're moving ok well you know it's you know kind of sad i didn't realize that you know putting something on the agenda would be quite so controversial but but  green is going to be a panel moderator and we're working on other details of other panelists to talk about snowflakes and climate and things like that so it's in the cool