call this a regular meeting of the deal slip or two or six o'clock pm it's june ninth twenty fifteen there are a couple of adjustments to the agenda roger fry would like to make a presentation on behalf of friends at the schoolhouse and we have some things we can't move who will try to get you into you can get out of new business that'll be we can put that under new business y done the town plan adoption is on the agenda i have nothing to do with that like table that or take it off the agenda or it's a case by consensus  off this move to the next meeting sorry you have to  that's that's what's wrong with that i've done to date basically i've been hired by mr goldman to basically suss the what's been done today in terms of the stormwater design on the site and look at the erosion which is occurring and so i've done a review of that and i basically come up with just a conceptual solution to that problem and where i am where but just in a general sense what i think is really the best option is to take a lot of the runoff which is currently coming from the proportion of the site  and so the idea that i had was to presently i think that the the issue is that the water which is draining down from the from the upper reaches of the site is all centrally going r there's visible roshon there they sand you can see the sand on the true steep drop it's very yeah it is very steep drop down the lawn so i think that the i think that the best solution really is just to get the drainage off of that in any redesign that i would that i would propose you know every basin like this has to have some kind of a relief that offer short so but the question being you know what is the standard that you know what sites form of that  reserved just as a relief valve so that in extreme strong really extreme storms you know four five six rain the water would have somewhere to go versus just 's is shown in the light dash line so basically horizontal right just to be clear my the the black and white all black and white tax is reflective of that the so that the water on in that dish on the north side of the roof with the side of the driveway will then cross the driveway at that point correct as opposed to the existing arrangement which looks like it came down the south side of the top or should the driveway lead into a culvert moved over to the road above the bulk of it does yes the south side of the stone line and the culvert that's there now brings it from the south side to the north side to the inside of the curve right and then ok it appears to me as far as i can follow the contour lines that go going back up near the transformer here yes and there's an existing eighteen inch culvert  runs down for the elders it's grat where the arrows are its grass and where the hatching the stone hatching right that that's actually stone and that runs down to the elders well or does some of it run  you know when i when i looked at it it looked to me like it was really that any water flows through that existing twenty four inch hole over was going into a stabilized pocket so while it wasn't running directly over this really a road s six you know really from the existing twenty four inch covert up to station twenty five that water which presently goes through the twenty four and she would continue on down the road procedural history of this to turn them into straight or very little did a kind of drive by and give a certificate of compliance that was appealed to those procedures allowed to the children are you board which tonight a certificate of compliance sometime after that great six showed up along the driveway along the north side and leading down toward the lord english if you have a new deal with those great sticks represented there in pairs you know marching down in the three or four feet apart e would be that other color to twenty four inch color which is the largest covert in the development that still aimed right at the back of the house and if that can be taken out i think that would eliminate just about all the water down there in the back of the wrote from lamoureux in dickens and his concern too is that we don't want to create a worse problem or another problem by putting the water someplace else what it does have to go someplace else i think just overall i'm not an engineer that this the lower storm water pond is plenty big enough for handling what will happen now because so much less all the water so not going to go down in the lower pond so if it goes to the upper pond it would go on our property and ravine and he's concerned was too that we don't create a problem for somebody else ultimately that water comes out on leases land down below i want to say i've walked it one hundred times probably about seventy five feet from there well so we don't want to create a problem for them either my thought that in in the ultimate fix maybe some sort of at the bottom of the base in the bottom of the ravine some sort of a diversion ditch around they have some property down there just so that it doesn't get into the a problem and for all i know we should phillips's wife has a problem because i think they also enjoying this property not to mention the folks to the north but the town also has an issue there with water there's been a problem every spring and it should be replace it so if this odd developments and packing that colder so you know just in terms of work suggesting it was done would be done diverting this area up above the area that we were first talking about bringing it over into the space and presently that water you know currently flows down through the impacted area eventually my understanding intervention makes it down to this lower gone beyond just social offering a solution though the next step of my work would be to actually quantify it in terms of a model to say we're diverting this many acres and that's going to result in percentage wise and how does the system work in the winter when the grounds for us and well the basins would you know there's a book there they're supposed to be so again by you know by intercepting some of the water and breaking it up a little better you know that could help with the situation on the town would be look favorably on replacing that holder or putting some money towards replacing the colder own model properly size this and the scope of work that we've been hired to do basically just do a conceptual design for the space and just to show that the landowners can this is only designed you know there's only there's a level of design there which you know wouldn't necessarily it's like you said these are you know there's been a lot of serious normal  techniques that we have but like you said there's a lot of factors it's not just the amount of rain intensity and it's also set your vision that the sort of conditions here before the storm the grounds for us and it's dry i mean there's a lot of factors so you from drove excavating a newport center and said i'll just read it we have seen your request for proposal and are pleased to offer our quote we could haul eight thousand tons of winter sand from johnson to underhill at the rate of thirteen dollars per tonne that's for the hauling of the sand ok another one submitted today at ten o'clock am just sealed this is from into leno's excavating and proposes to haul it doesn't tons of winter sand to the highway garage for four dollars needed five cents a ton is within forty bucks of being three thousand dollars forty five atomic comes to thirty nine hundred dollars at five dollars and twenty three cents at the end comes to forty one thousand eight hundred forty dollars eleven make a motion to approve and that complicates matters and then there's the bar and then there's the clover which is a show on the drawings which may be necessary so i wonder if you guys to come back with something more detailed in terms of the used it temporary access permit to install a mound as shown on drawings for construction purposes only that will be one of the conditions as you know the zero timeline on  about that she's going to dig out a model of what one looks like i am sitting is acting judge up a new court tomorrow so i'm going all day but i will come in on thursday and be sure the job gets done somehow or another because it's not as wet ground or it's something or other it was unclear what it is he asking what he wants from us is a letter to him from us saying no that would not be satisfactory to the town to build a driveway there i told him and he said all he wants is a letter from nate xplained we come from the slip board if it comes at all and i asked him to come in two weeks from now with the engineering agent simply dumped a check on us some of that is people just not reading correctly the core logic ones understand it is a company that is a service organization for a screeches which is why sometimes the general forms the big items being gravel i think that crowd was for that hema on silly hill yeah so that money was all put admissions regarding the further process in other words the d or b is deeply concerned about that intersection issue for them so should the other people there who also don't have sight lines  consensus tell me to go ahead and talk to a staff of my getting somebody in that chair who can do this stuff i contribute at this point floater basis as a temp i did explain that if you're planning to take august off this isn't going to work and i know it's summer people kids are out of school you leave you want to spend time we need somebody in the chair folks