there's been three committees sat out the piece on the the regional five three seven plan engineers committee things that comprise of engineering representatives from several of peter three board members several of the clerk mean us for forty board members or solicitors so there's been four maybe five meetings of of that group as well so a lot of to identify where cost effective system rehabilitation or replacement may be in order to remove that slogan which is cheaper to remove than it is to continually tr that's been going on through this whole time period in april of two thousand and eleven or two thousand and ten rather the fourth bullet point up until that point peter sprigg developed a later slide to develop an existing conditions model if peer group did not do anything internal to their system relative to infiltration inflow reduction that is the flow for voting see down strike ok now it was produced in april two thousand and ten following that and keep in mind the monthly board meetings of peter creek in addition of the three committees that i mentioned previously every month we update the board details long discussions with the ten members of that board able to thousand tanguy presented a so then in march of issue here in terms of the discussion relative to alternatives all of the engineering group looked at what is the clear minas both awardee treatment plant cost without on the additional costs associated with sewage treatment plant outbreaks the second alternative and its simplest form is peter sprigg internal perlman's building and a dedicated sewage treatment when we were able to produce a calibrated existing conditions model and validated in lies in two different years of data were reasonably replicating system response to that is projected in the service area which is about hundred which is included in the plan is one hundred twenty each per year for the next thirty years was incorporated areas that are shorter and green are those areas during the middle of the night when there's no water usage a current actual measurement is performed up in a collection stress system during a orange would be wet and the red meat very wet so basically there's thirty percent of the system that is wet seventy percent that is dry and it's give you a feel for where you can target you infiltration and flow we duction dollars can one of the things that you need with the peters creek system that is not unique in our it can be cost effectively on formula fairly easily makes things out pretty easy from that perspective by the plans significantly reduce infiltration him slow response what in the system on and provide capacity upgrades and the upper areas and one section in the lower areas quick system this lower area if you will is the proximate location of the two sewage treatment plants that were of value weighted as part of a five three seven plant down along the jefferson hills south park would be completing their five three seven plans and september the executive summary that would tie all those reports would be completed in october was a middle of the evidence that has been a lease of mid on that we would think that to allow for continued orderly plant growth in the southeastern portion of peter's township peter's township for the southwest portion of the township the northerly part of the township construction is currently underway for an additional clarifier that w detailed land use considerations because that general area there's a lot of commercial orders on a restaurant so there was a larger level of  water there have been plants that have been attempting to process that material but basically it's just a solution because he's made dilution issue really is no treatment afforded that waste water on b p s ask all dahab but one of the things included in the five forty seven plan they did provide discharge limitations that's documented they had done the five some hurdles in terms of around have a nice day they listen to the board concerns they listen to the sides of the board side because i'm sure that they're hearing from the other side as well and identified what their technical concerns work i think their perspective is they want to see a regional five three seven plan i suspected they may right now three separate sanitary sewer systems going into a combined solar system separate solar system can't discharge to the environment a combined sewer system can and when you commingle flows you commingle the regulatory and probably better answer the question that less than ten this year sold of the seventy five that's been allocated late in the year last year with the potential for the sprinkler out of the corrective action plan irrespective of what happens downstream and we ask them how do we do that and they identify how they look to criteria is that peter's group will have to package making a very strong case you know the corrective action plan maybe just to follow up points on what jason said in the first in terms of the treatment plant up in the sewer shed or in the watershed excuse me there's some pretty strong environmental taken down towards run and put me on a river down there from an environmental perspective through it and make a lot of sense so we believe there is a very strong argument to can be made there from the environment as an environmental benefit for the treatment plants in terms of the tap issue it's been very frustrating for the authority that frankly their fate has not been in their control they have been held hostage to be in actions of others feared for example or authorities been very good in terms of doing what granted as a result of actions that were not and taken by others and it's a very frustrating thing and at that goes directly to the heart of you know what's your control your own destiny in your own hands and so we think there's a pretty strong argument to be made there so those are the two alternatives it they've been a value waiting on along with south park the same lines i don't see anyone peter sprigg sanitary ability in the peter's creek watershed isn't a unique position where once across the county line it's you know someone else's jurisdiction if you will on terms of collection there's one point of connection  issue with jefferson held them while they're there are plans of violation was so high they have so many points of connection it's just difficult for them to do so little peter sprigg sanitary authority from that perspective is in a unique position  is for forty would borrow forty million dollars to upgrade their plant their charges would no longer be a dollar fifty percent thousand it would be three sixty nine per thousand so in terms of right now the annual treatment charges budgeter me eight hundred fifty thousand dollars range at a dollar fifty per thousand the annual treatment charges would be on the order of two million dollars left alternatively and again that is giving an alternative one he assumes that the city of clairton would continue to receive a twenty percent discount the old agreement clerk at work to retain that discount taking that discount off as fifty three dollars and fifty cents so there's a bought five to five dollars and fifty cents which translates into about ten percent differential for the would be nine hundred thirty thousand ok and then the variable operating costs flow based would be on top of that so far there analyzed if increased the flow from the cyclone doubled their flow they had increased their plant when it got that close was over sixteen seventeen million for us so the pendulum when you go to sixteen seventeen million from ni and we can't do anything without their blessing and we can affect what they do that affects what they'd do if excess just like  never heard of now when there's unix in the unique situation it's you should make a recommendation to cancer and cancer will make the motion to approve it so your first step is to approve make your responsibility is to make a recommendation however call your by member board in ns whatever to recommend to the planning commission to accept p c s a five person plan