maybe maybe ok i don't want to get trapped into decide we're going to do this well we might not have the money for this were my there but that we don't know where the money's coming from we're going to decide to do it anyway when we have to make a decision on the tank size so that our engineer can can start doing the drawings and so dirty you can sparks start doing the application for the conditional use of the property based on what we go with that this is this is this is deciding we we can't then go back after we've gotten through final design event be like you know what we're going to have seven thousand gallon tank  the the funding agencies don't make a decision on the rates in terms until the end of the project until they have final numbers until they know what the media and especially from because we're doing that income survey what  what median household income is in the community i mean we can't get to the end without getting to the beginning we haven't done the you know the survey yet got that also love perhaps we should wait until we do then we're going to find them we're going to not  without going through all the motions we have to do go through and it strikes me we kind of well because yes we can we did it as for the for the town meeting for well no we could we can determine the cost but as you just described there's the wild card of career funding right hinges on the sure of it right but we're probably heard of so i'm looking at the powerpoint that just put together for a town meeting and i'm getting to the patients except they're there  so for the conkling contact time and the five hundred fifty thousand gallon tank the estimated project cost would be roughly one point two million and a twenty year loan at three percent per equivalent unit now at that time the equivalent units were i don't even remember what we use for the equivalent units but it they may or may not change should be one hundred seventy one dollars a year per equivalent  thousand gallon tank the total project cost would be roughly one point four million twenty or three percent loan would be one hundred ninety eight dollars per couldn't you know per year and a forty year three point five percent loan would be one hundred thirty eight think the annual payment forty to fifty thousand dollars a year so if you take off if you take off the fifteen for the debt that where they were down thirty five thirty five on top of what we are actual numbers actually based on something as opposed to with all due respect to chief law back you know i need three hundred thousand  pockets books of the users but also the viability of the system going forward and the ability to protect it and protect and the community now part of this conversation it would be remiss if we did not mention a plan to to do a proposal on time meeting day four for a fire whatever on the ballot  there's a big safety disparity between the two fifty and the five fifty but the percentage of the low is better for what about the other should we put other things on the back for the time being  have the of the question though in terms of what are the expenses that we could choose to not make word defer so the jericho road horses left the barn we're paying for that we can not pay for them the tank we have kind of  a ticking clock in terms of so that has to become a priority in terms of the age and condition of the tank then the repairs the repairs come up you pay for those you're really looking at the foreign capital investments are improvements right i think those pave the state will be paving and at the point when they pave you're really compelled in terms of the financing if you're going to ever replace that that's your opportunity to replace it in a cost effective way the lines there are also i believe the in the worst after substantial completion of the project and we haven't even even even secured the land for the project yet so we're for if not five years out of starting to pay for this which gives us which gives us time to do the protecting the public health and the infrastructure that we have here but what i want to do if we're following up on the general discussion of are there expenses in any of the projects that we could defer it seems to me in the tank we can't identify any in the corn contact time there are things that arguably even if you know we might say to ban idea and choose not to but could be different the pain cannot be deferred requiring contact time itself cannot be deferred but now we talked about the road power line and the generator as being things like and that is one of the next steps that is so if we proceed with that back to the question of what actually gets impacted you know to slow the whole project down for two weeks or really just compress some things it's better to know sooner but because i have thought about i was thinking about this the way by the way and in terms of three versus five commission members you find for the smaller take myself but that's really content to decision there's also sort of the process question of the folks who are not here to vote for you know that's the political reality i mean if we if i were sitting on a senate committee and sixty percent of this and a committee were  when we have our two new appointments we could do a year or are given the sort of course of the to know what was going to be up to speed well they're going to have a big difference for him a little and we still have a majority going back fifty i don't want to put words in anybody's mouth but would vote for the seven sixty because i think that we're talking about a hundred doctor a hundred year art asset that's going to be paid off and sensually forty years of its life or sixty or sixty percent of its life there is there's there's maintenance is that you make you make choices to cut knowing that knowing they are cutting something that somebody has worked hard to put in hand and they need it back so ye with you if you can't afford it and it's not such a good you do bends how how much things can change so i we have we have seven minutes left and we have other things that we need to do it's either we're not going to decision and there is a conditional condition in that a policy that that if there are if there are delinquent are there not if their balance is not paid to do that and then any they will be allowed to use our facility and b w and would we be can we make a motion to to accept this policy with the with the noted changes before you do that the one point seven referred to said statutory so is there a reason why we wouldn't amended to do one point seven which is the maximum one point five one point seven is not substantially different would be somewhat encouraging terms and i would be fine with that are you offering a friendly amendment i mean ok ex policy we have a policy let's go after him i we have a couple minutes left i just want to bring up some some issues that within the last week  about with the with the change to going to units living units or business units is what do we do how do we kind of trust but verify that the folks who have come in inside you have me down as two units but i'm really one because i've been a single family home forever how do we trust but verify and i think we need to come up with a strategy for that it may involve a site visit but i feel i feel like we need to the we have hired it last year yeah but it could also be something as easy as the guys in there doing out doing the meters i mean if you want to change in your billing assume it's going to be that's what we were going to do is we conclude that it's two units you tell me it's one i'm saying you got to show it to me right to prove it to me or you're stuck at zero and another question that came up that an issue that came up is what do we do about it about residential connections that are just one who run a business out of their home wanted to bring it up in public because it's as it's come up in the last and we need to kind of think of a strategy on how we're going to communicate to folks the change in with the structures i know i in advance of the july billing and maybe i just need to talk with jeff and conny and kendall about the strategy for that i was just thinking of a like a mail merge type a letter where name