language and twenty two a slightly different language but those of the independent claims you could look at the challenge i'm having in this case this is just to help me out here and i'll ask the other side if they have anything to add i'm trying to figure out what the claim construction was because the board purports to be about whether responsive and the other claim of the taishan has a just a specific temporal limitation and is this where you're saying the board grafted on these additional limitations because i know but the board's construction is more narrow because it says that it the claimed activities have to be performed right here on appendix fifteen during or near the time of the start of the application whereas the dist course construction was more broad because of all the court said there was a temporal relationship it also noted for example that in indirect connection could be enough and it said that these functions could could occur after that's why we are imposing this to occur during or near the time of startup of the application so why is that wrong so the board was fixated on the ordinary meaning of wanting to completely divorced from the displayed until a user provides input in particular the user have to select the map that function and the application the buddy watch application can wait in indeterminate amount of time it can wait indefinitely and because of language and it says just to your point that that can't be right because you're distinguishing between launching and running and the language itself and both of those limitations that are in dispute here talk about respons to launching and association with an application so do you have an answer to that i do your honor and so again it's not looking at launch in a vacuum it is in response to application launch and what in context of the claim language and in the written description is that this idea that there's a launch phase and then something else happens and so what happens is these reciting activities and so the board was led astray by just thinking that watch has to be talk intro launches and nothing will happen until there's user input scrolling the menu and then other functions will occur now these that application that environment is not related to displaying a map and selecting a service provider as in the buddy watch want of an application it does not the patent is not described any any activity using the words in response to watch and so when we're faced with a patentee who chooses language in the claims that has no book back into th word the board there wasn't citing the claim language it was citing the language of the specification now do you look at the top fourteen have got a few sites to the specification which is their basis for concluding that these term applications running on g p s enabled cell phone so they did use running in connection with buddy mark do you but they do not use and you do not see hear anything the specification where but a watch is launched they don't use the the specification says if map it is selected the user is taken to the map and page shown on figure two d figure two d shows the map the page where the positions of active users within a radius set up in the the activities the operations that are in the claims happen the receipt of position information or seed and display of position up information and then the updating of  application on the st wireless device that is the user uses the method and response to watch rather well it says not normally answer my question that we're talking about i don't think that is causing receipt and i'm referencing now appendix one hundred and thirty line fifty seven causing receipt of information on the st wireless device representing the position further down that's in correct your honor it's been correct about that because the prior art as a recognizes is silent about an application and any application launched on the user device just does not show that there floor i don't believe that's correct your honor but when there was a thought that's what you said what are the reason is is that those things and those steps and the receipt of information and the display of information in the receipt of updated information those things are responsive to launching the application there's a connection between the activities in the claim so it doesn't happen in the proper or at the whim of occasion as long as you get the information now is that if that's always required is not in the it is not it is not in the prior i want you to have to watch the application before you can do it well but the claim require yes if the answer is yes not in not you don't have to invoke that method responsive to launch and that's what the claims require a connection between it all that requires is receiving information it does not it requires a connection between launching application and let me explain why that's what and they talk about that i mean it maybe there's a connection but we started this discussion with talking about the claim the claim limitation that the board invoked which was is a currying during or near the time and that is a temporal limit so you're saying you're talking here about you start the application and then something happens in response to start it up but where do we get that temper during or near the time of the start well i mentioned that column six lines thirty three to thirty six talk about pressing or selecting map it and then operations occur pointed us out to it talks about the buddy watch application and it doesn't refer to ready it's refers to map it as a selection upon the launching of the body watch application in my reading that paragraph correctly you artists and i will say so that's doesn't this paragraph isn't supporting the notion that it is a separate act as an adult and one why isn't it remember wh calls map that a command or a function and what the specification further says is that commands can be invoked to allow the user to select a map display that's a column twenty four if you launch the application then what word is it that constitutes use of the method is it is it the receipt of the information or some action by the use routine you know in order for these claims to be met there needs to be some connection between the launching of the application and the receipt of that information the claims specifically application to perform these steps and so there's a level of your your argument really now is that commission doesn't show an application at all well we have made that argument that peter did not agree with that or really that that is not that is not the only part of our argument or let's assume the committee she does show the launching of the application and it also shows receipt of information on the launch of the application according to what i understand to be studying the receipt of the information happens in committee she happens of the prior or but it does not have been responsive to launch or in association with launches the claims require and what that construction media will do after launch does not know we don't know that there's nothing in location the only application that konishi specifically discloses is an application on a central server and it talks about a user interacting with an application on a central server that's not launching an application on accuser can be invoked to provide a map column sixteen lines thirty eight dollars through sixteen it can be invoked after the instant buddies relationship has been set up and to allow map display the specification is consistent about the info cation of mathis so all of us your entire argument depends on the our construing map it is being the application and no body want for purposes that's not necessarily your honor but the specification is crystal clear with respect to map it being what is disclosed and described as being invoked to cause a lot about other means and we started this with your showing us calling no columns six right lines twenty nine through forty four and this is a detailed discussion of map that which we relied on where i mean this talks about the bloody watch application program it does and at the claims i believe broad enough to cover if a separate application is already running but that's irrelevant because what we're talking about to invoke the specifically claimed functionality is map it so whether or not there's something else on the phone that honor what the board said was that adopting buber's position would make the claims the claim terms meaningless at the world argument well they were referring to the responsive to the application they were i mean wasn't  just differentiation between map and body watch that that reference was to those words oh well that's true but that they're all of a piece what hoover argued was that responsive to launch said was that condition has an application we disagreed with that because the disclosure if we agree that there must be software but neither can you see norman's work it showed that there is an application that dedicated to performing this functionality you might receive an e mail you might have a zillion tabs occasion running does that mean disclosure of information i'm sorry i missed that what does it mean if the application is running does that mean a provides information if the application is running it could but that's not what's claimed what's claimed this responsive to launch and both the district court and the and the board correctly said those words have to have meaning there has to be some connection between the r ted activities and the launch of the application and that just wasn't shown in the winter when i'm women ok so there's a running application by the way in that there there could be you're talking about  and what the p type said was the application was launched at some point prior to invocation the claims instead require a relationship between the starting of the application and the starting of the application that's the launch and no one and then after it started to rot and while it's running as you admitted a moment ago provides information right and what the claims require is responsive to launch the parties agreed any evidence in the record in the here council point now any support for the idea that that has to have that one cannot wait indefinitely when selected that function so there is no record support