computer format or used as with respect to some kind of award all it was is once sheets that that showed on the face of it the description of th information that would go into some kind of teaching me what did been pretty simple to describe something that the teaching aid would be attached to who would be most we believe we did to make and use the advantage right you enable them to use the information he has in what format is a teaching he ok give me an example give me an basis that it's to matter twelve by fourteen blow out on a poster board with that that you know ability to present it on the side of a truck or wherever you didn't make any of those cl easily avoided that's true that isn't the reason that there's an article of manufacture acquirement is that there is a there needs to be a distinction between the design pattern and appearance copyright copyright of a material and that the only way to come within the bounds of something that could be covered by the patent law is if you identify an art of manufacture which you could have done with dotted lines or shading or even the court i think my co counsel said it best when he said that his design must be attacked to something and i think a better way to phrase that is under thirty five u s c one seventy one  pattern must be applied to or embodied in an article manufacture if you look at the title of this application in the claim it generally describes a teaching aid for teaching arabic but then when you turn to the drawing asked about has not shown for design applied to a teaching aid looking at the drawing the design is not applied to any article of manufacture it's sort of an abstracted zeiner picture standing alone and at the claim of the application there is no mention of paper as required under thirty seven c f r one point one five three and then he turned to the drawing the drawing doesn't show that same design applied to paper rather paper just the median box filed for application with the us peach was just missing a few dotted lines or maybe a little been shading is that what you're saying well there's plenty a way that could have been done i am basically saying there's no way for the office to look at this design produce you could follow design pattern for long or of and that particular application you wouldn't know because your application was directed to that particular article meaning like however he wanted to have your design applied to multiple articles a manufacturer you can do that you have to list them in the title you have to list them in the claiming you have to provide drawings that will that let the public know the very way that you are applying your design so in figures five showing a different viewpoint of the article of manufacture and opposed to a design and then again if you look at what i'm sorry i don't understand that else tell me what the article manufacture is and then well the examiner found it to be a game board and so if you if you're looking at figures for figure five in its turn then you're looking at the seems to be the sign elevation of you and figure four and figure five is a front elevation in several places yeah i see what you're talking about not a hundred percent sure what the little lines are showing but in design patterns when you have broken lines you're sort of you're showing environment surface like there's a maybe a different texture of them the design on something to show that it is sitting on something it's not so all we had to do would put a little well the m e p goes into a lot of discussion about the fact that it needs to be applied to an article of manufacture and trying to find facts i know that it talks about how to show your also talk about how you can show your joint properly in terms of following broken lines or dotted lines or followed lines under thirty seven thirty seven c f r one point one five constitute a complete disclosure of the appearance of the design and then to get to your point about whining that said solid black surface shading is not permitted except when used to represent the cause black rose color contrast broken lines may be used to show visible environment structure go back and figure out how to respond depending on the ruling and how free but that that would be a problem because it doesn't just come from our regulations it also comes from the statute i mean the statute tell you that you happen to apply your design to an article manufacture the regulation and explain how it is that you can do that so it would be a bigger problem than that we would have to figure out how to protect abstract idea