clear as to the length of the point given when you lection is but having said that i also think the charter is preempted by the state election and i think that's what's going to govern is that by us declaring the position vacant then mr sylvester now notifies the election board so that they're aware that some further action well i don't know if we do it yet we've got to find some point as to when we believe the other component to that my understanding is that the election board also advises the local county coroner so that they can in fact potentially make a recommendation that's what happened when the school board position was open and there are two other townships that have open positions that they are now in a position to try to recommend so i think mr johnson can find out how to perhaps whether or not we need to involve another party or another party the people who might be interested now are already thinking about it so if we can set a short deadline people could submit a letter immediately and we do not need you know we don't have a meeting scheduled told the next the budget and the award would be subject to receipt of agreement so what would happen is whoever gets the award will work with tom and putting together the grant application document and grant just just a clarification that that amount is an estimate what we did to compare apples to apples that is based on the last recycling quantities that we did two years ago so the amount will vary conversion to be existing sediment base and along shore line drive in the hidden brook plan to a permanent stormwater facility as per the design plans plus the installation of a wood chip path as part of the recreational quire mix for the plan these are two of the last holding off because you know that's that's the part of the plan that doesn't have any buildings on it right now and there are some questions as to the build ability of those lots because of the soil conditions and you know we wanted to hold off because obviously we don't want to damage a brand new sidewalk with with home construction in that area but we're kind of getting to the point now where for the we don't feel that there's going to be any activity with that property and maybe by the end of the year you know if w get good weather in the fall maybe we'll do it for the kaito based on what happens when we might even do it in the spring but so then are you worried that something you negotiate with the homeowners association with you whether or not to do  and there's an issue going on because this is as you would call if you might recall this was a brownfield site so there were stipulations placed on the columns about responsibility for environmental speed bumps might not be a bad idea to have a set of these temporary ones to utilize in these areas for a period of time and then see if that reduces the speed without having to to measure the impact to me council few meetings back to authorize public works to go in and do some work on power hill elementary school that's still a vacant property and it's probably going to need attention here pretty soon just real quickly they're in foreclosure the bank is due we should bank we've notified them as well on this project i can't see the house might be a picture of the house in there but the house was being used by  there's a pool in the back that we get complaints often with stagnant water we think one of the neighbors cut grass so did didn't look that bad but we need to get in here and rip that one around a pool  zoning hearing aboard they've given a few variances for scorchers and things like that and i know that over time that council has made some of the proof of some variances in building setbacks in different plans where we've modified this have facts recently and said that there would not be variances permitted i was just inquiring from mr sylvester you're planning whether or not that's banking indicated as zoning so that they're aware of hands also in town did we do the rounds springdale the hamlets and when we talked about it because we've made those modifications we've said that we we would expect they communicate that i have sort of clued in that docket the job description for a deputy chief as i reported in my report we would prefer to be able to hire comfortable with that our goal was to have interviews conducted jointly with myself chief choreo here and present for our company gregg nor d because one of the goal is to make people they go to to get degrees in criminal science and that really has not been an issue of trying to find people and this is to asia and if we want to go with the strict interpretation most likely we would have to go out of house to find someone are you saying you don't want to post the position at all advertise for the position oh yes that's right that's what i'm saying we were pretty well we advertised it internally the we would world when my concern is this then in addition to the education card for firestarter service it becomes a management position and i don't have a good handle on whether or not the people who would apply for this internally would be able to transition into a management position it's a different world and someone without some further education may or may not be prepared there's a lot of things we would have to respond to that we would have to take into consideration will work for during the review we were going all right so the question is whether or not you invest time to get someone up to speed the other question i would ask is that if you do promote from within then you're going to need to hire another actually mack was going to be moving into hopefully moving into the chief job so now it kind of puts me in a little bit of a disadvantage that i need to stick around longer than i wanted to to be able to get them up to speed whoever internally would take the least amount of time to bring somebody in from the outside doesn't know the operation and just going at it it's going to compound the the length of time you get them or they need  be and again the fire department is a little bit of a different breed because you do have the long tears you do have the crew people there a lot of the people that are there a lot of people do act in a capacity of an officer and  applicants are they all internet volunteers no no no this is all a group of people and what we have is we have six of them three of them two of them are working on their degree one of them doesn't and honestly at this point i think that you need to get somebody in there and get them up to get them moving up to speed as fast as possible because it's a question we have and we replace one of our t v replays so deputy chief you know i would be concerned  person is going to be stay the deputy are they coming here with the intention that they're going to eventually be the so when you see a lot of these national ads going on you know they they pretty much go through the same process as we're going to go internal but when they feel that you know there's a problem and they need to get it you know bring somebody in from the outside to change the whole complection of the place sun then they're gone and then then somebody is walking into a hornet's nest if you will and this kid in this situation i think you have some qualified people internally that could in fact step up and do the job but that that's the fifty million dollar question you know if they're coming in is the deputy or they're going to be the heir apparent to the chief i think that's something that you know he has a bachelor's degree in applied science the far prevent my car mclaughlin who served our prevention officer he's applied and then you see bars now i was just we do have a couple other items one item that just came in today actually we received notification from our