call the select board meeting order is tuesday july seventh at twenty fifteen twenty fifteen at six pm before we begin there are a number of adjustments to the agenda starting at the warranted approve the contract with a tech group righty support approve salary rig changes for the current fiscal year address an issue that is just arisen regarding stevensville road decide whether to participate as we have in the past with we'll see ts compensation survey review the budget line items and approve the proposed tax rate for next year subject to the changing another member i had of this is just to take note of the current round of sampling of soil on the landfill burrito road i think that takes care of all the additions to th my husband and i just purchased a house in jeffersonville so close you know i know you were good pastry on the main street  public no i see no public general discussion on the upper road is supper six twenty and we move right along at six or seven so people may be showing up so it seems to me ninety two percent like the and then this is from up up hill this is from farther away and this is from across from the driveway that there's another driveway across there with the speed limit road very from where this picture was taken that there's a telephone pole right here like that she mentioned and i walked from this car to this telephone pole was able to see just in three hundred easily three hundred fifty feet on the street yeah  so here's the wood you should do it without the sidelines established and so i can't really prove this tonight or nothing could we need to have a sketch plan with where the culverts going to go the drainage is zoning regs says that if the government is doing it or a church or a school they don't have to go through the permit process at all as long as it meets the dimensional requirements you know they don't have to fire a permit which or something to achieve some kind of resolution but there are interesting legal questions as to just what the rights of does not enjoy the trail his property is north of the west and property i guess one question would be hard to the folks of the program want the town to fight this want to do with it other than agricultural purposes or they wouldn't be wanted more which is the thing that makes me nervous is what are the real intentions were not to know and any burden comes down the road and under something this road just connect to their property this is a request to make use of the trail not for hiking or watching birds or hunting or everything else basically running a power in the town right of way requires the slip where permission is the trails not a road i mean if you if you're building a lower english settlement and you want the power company basically it's a right under statute  they would just her lawyer said they would do the expense of bringing it up to standards just that two hundred seventy two hundred thirty feet of it right right and then they would maintain it over the years well th i don't see a whole lot of discovery here although there may be people who live up there who can testify as to what the spin is did or did not do with the property over the years when that old foundation had a house on it and when it burned down much of it will be decided on people questions what does the joining landowner have in the way of rights based on what historical use what restrictions can be placed that kind far wolf for one thing our lawyers are giving us a disk and he's taking twenty five percent off their usual bills across and get it all up to twenty five percent off so the bills have not been difficult at this point so it's a lot different than what he was a president himself the first time it's that it was mal again on what a machine is not a lawyer it was the fact that this was turned into a trail and it was a preexisting use and what is that preexisting use and what should that trail judge try to sort through the law on this there isn't a whole lot of law on it or some put on the whole lot maybe two or three cases that even come close to this kind of the sort of facts to be to quiet that you may have observed on the website is because of it pretty quick there you go and again like he said we don't know a lot of what they're talking about most each other because i have a high degree of the other what their real hyper thoughts are right you never do know repertoire to development from a property owners in the town of western concerns that i personally would be the safety of children up around the curb and secondary road with increased traffic which could become i was and continue to be in total agreement with that designation i signed an agreement to that effect with the town i would prefer that that section of road be on the turn around remain designated as a tr my neighbors stan and susan sangar and their son jesse who uses a powered wheelchair uses his wheelchair on the road as the best rooms would this presents a definite greater safety hazard with increased traffic that would occur with development of the upper world and less for property owners should provide access through property in the town of western thank you for listening to my opinion on this very important issue of safety always been and said no problem and we got an eighteen inch color that jim was putting in after we discussed with a we would like to continue to use it and we talked about the birth of parental cultural use we have back there's too many trees do we need this is done i think stop me if i'm wrong is and we have a couple of these last time around an excavation permit because you're doing work of the town right of way which you know t legion you're talking about the one they had one through the woods the power of this fellow was i think before that so young guy and he wants to build a house for there up the hill but at this point he only wants to go as far as the sugar house but yeah issue they were supposed to be here again it is now seven o'clock to give them five minutes or ten strictly before we get to that let me i suspect so we had waited like six years before building so we hired an architect and we spent maybe forty grand plan so her and we got ready to build a filer per meg and found out there was huge issues believe it or not here because this is definitely the driest part of the field and all with all the times coming you know what they proposed was we could put a road through the actual weapon this is the fact that you would prefer like to curb cut here the existing curb then they would let me keep the existing engineering then i would pay a fee penalty feel like per square foot it goes into the general know what happened was like when it changed the weather and rules all this engineering basically kind of went away as far as the weapons part so all this time i thought i had an approved building which you know  was the case because right fortunately i was the state it sent us a notice or something saying that these land wetlands are going to change you know these rulings are going to change but there was no notification  of the line of sight is much better were he wants it i didn't want to measure anything but this part is steep in curvy and that kind of flattens out where he wants to put his driveway to the next house it seems to be more logical place to put it i mean it's up to him if he wants to pay the fees to go across that i just think and they would be comfortable personally coming out here up the next question is that driveway that you want here's my suggestion is find the access permit  and then we'll have to determine whether it expires or not it may be that those acts and now we have an expiration date on excess permits because things change traffic changes color general goes up a wal mart and it may be that whenever that access promote was granted ten or fifteen or more years that there was no expiration expiration date on it well this is know ok never a better idea of what we're talking about but i hope for your sake that there was no drop dead date on that access provision we have nothing to do with the sign just as well that it's already done be done things like that it's really really typical for them to be now purcel it's very subjective compared to what the pats like i'll take the feds over the state feds tell you how it's going to be everything's laid out everything is  meet tomorrow night there's a finalist list up to and out of tomorrow night i am assured that we will be advised promptly as to who the nominee will be just on salaries and run like in other places we are budgeted twenty one dollars forty four cents an hour forty four six hundred annually basically when our time plan is up for discussion i will be stated that i didn't realize that this was well damn ice i gotta get back to sherry and say nobody is available how we established i think i mean one time i would help with this i think i'll have we set the boundaries no we have it and there is a file but there is that deadline is october sixth it seems to be that we have the manual here this might be good thing for our new planning a person to do it two or three  asking for in terms of dollars in terms of work done this can be a good window project little sashes and maybe i should photocopy to talk to sheets sure see what the other groups were getting their money from y also a reason my phone number is not in the book he he has a dispute with great eleanor fool lives up the hill is seventy nine middle lane and has a pond this is putin as it turns out has been going on for many years the stray you do claims that the pond overflows flows on to his land and causes problems for him i explained to him that this may or may not but i told him i would look into it but that he needs to understand that if your neighbor has a cow and the co gets into your yard the fact that you are both taxpayers does not mean it's the town's pub which is what he argued to me which is that i pay taxes he should solve my problem so i came into the town hall i had with through the zoning files because sirte was here and it turns out that the el the extensive file in the eleanor pond and it is legal pot to big bald head was permitted back in one thing and the dispute started shortly thereafter if not before  two thousand and eight mike was ill was commissioned by the town to open have a look and he looked at the pond he looked at the door driveway and he looked at the oh you took property and drainage is and came to who said that he would be here tonight i told him we have put him on the agenda he is not here so a ticket other matters occupy them otherwise i would tell him this appears not to be our problem so i just want to let you know about that the contract for the tech crew managed services contract i don't know if you had a chance to look at it it's interesting i have no problem if the cost has gone down by a thousand dollars since last year we have to have somebody for back up here on these machines for say i wish i was on the original select board when we started there i never did either i ran into roy serial killer the day roy duffy and he said retaining walls falling down a bit of concrete blocks i wasn't quite sure what he will he was talking about thought to myself if this is the retaining budget says we can spend a hundred fifty thousand dollars on a dump truck but all the bids come in higher than that as with the time garage repairs exactly what we've done i don't have to do it and we didn't change it it's something we need to start working on though that's different th reduced tax rates set up her serve redirected elsewhere so that's interesting was an emergency situation if you good we were paid to see it off do it you know within six months or so i think the next set of new business is approving the tax rate but i have a question based on the budget miserable tax rate for this fiscal year which just started is point five zero three one last year it was point four eight eight nine i'm talking about where i live which is a two point nine percent municipal tax rate is on everything the say you're not in a town contract or a current use is all your land is fifty six point five zero three one but if you put ten acres into the to contract you only have to pay point zero two seven nine thousand no i think that's what they add to everybody else that's what it costs everybody else i'm just not sure maybe we have fewer time contracts yesterday afternoon but it ought to warn the minister for rate may change a little depending on rounding and when any m r see whoever they are comes to set things up for the bills must be a computer people these rates have to be voted on tomorrow night if you're meeting under new business if they're not passed then the bills will be two weeks late going out the rate changes but it is time to build you will also have to vote again on the number of your next meeting  draft something i was proposed there was one copy unmarked found in the hall i'll take full credit for going through every single rolled up piece of paper in the which has no parcels on it but the parcel map which doesn't have accurate zoning lines of it because somebody just get crazy with it and try to figure out where they are  said does the slick port want him who knows what the issue is too and he's got the parcel stuff so you know does he want to be hired we want to hire him to impose the lot lines on the parcels on our zoning mail or nine hundred eighty five zoning map which is the zoning that i said i would raise it with the select board it is something something useful and necessary to not asking for anything brad said that he would figure out how many hours it would take to tell us it sounds very reasonable it would cost i can't think of anybody else capable of it there's one place on that where is clear so we just didn't know what to do so we got a really really true straight line you know it's not the zoning boundary you know hold on so serves been lobbying to have this work done for a long time because it's pure hell phil sampling report which i confess i have not returned to it appears to be consistent with previous findings it has been planted with state yes pretty similar to