i'm going to call to order the recess committee meeting the public service and utilities before we do caucus you have a resolution you should be right in front of our county of the incentive program offered through nicira which would enable again we're looking to do a joint application from the city county  community college to put some electric vehicle charging stations in different locations in the city when i was looking at is from ones immediately adjacent to city hall either right in front of the building or right behind the building the county was looking at some jason the county facilities in the community college which protein in a similar fashion this proposal if we were awarded it would reimburse the municipalities at a rate of eighty percent for the charging stations again they would be available for the public or if in some point the future of the city opted to add to it yes it's my belief that they will do similar resolutions and supporter letters of insert weren't we but the other charging stations where would we put them yeah do you know ye to again it was the county who put it adjacent to the county building here the college would put it somewhere in their parking lot in reviewing the options because we have very boulevard dug up to make sure that the conduit is in place to be able to install some of these some point in the future ok i don't have the exact timeline the grant application has to be in for this round of funding sometime in july so it is somewhat time sensitive when we heard about this in committee it was our understanding or at least we were told i know that you had to leave the meeting that there would be no cost to the city that it is that not correct that's not correct that's not correct we potentially could spend roughly two thousand dollars a unit even though it's also possible we might work with national grid where our cost might be reduced further what was the amount the preliminary estimates would be roughly ten thousand dollars a charging station eight thousand dollars would be roughly provided by the state grant in so our cost would be roughly two thousand dollars a site ok so the city's cost me two thousand dollars per location correct and we're talking about three locations were looking at maybe two or four locations on the on the final configuration ok the other question is really and once we have that if we passed as we have the charging stations how soon would they be utilized and by people with electric cars and i assume as soon as they go in that there would be some interest in it and be able to utilize these i also understand these could be used in the place of parking meters and we're spending as much as nine hundred dollars a parking meter to replace a meter have it installed so the again depending on the pricing structure put in place in these there would be an associated revenue stream from the stations also the proposal for the cities and would be to put a station again on the perimeter of city hall it would be the electricity would be run through the meter or one of the meter service in this building that somebody utilizing the charging station would pull up plug their car in swipe their credit card and pay for the appropriate amount of electricity or charging but they would use and  do we have to give it a certain number of stations you said two to four when would we know what our commitment would be to how many stations based on the funding of the grant or i don't know what the total application would be because the county is reviewing options for their siting adjacent to the county facilities and then the community college is doing the same thing so the total grant might be for sixteen or twenty stations to be sited in the downtown area responsible for two thousand dollars per station we would only be responsible for those that the city takes charge of the county would assume responsibility for there and community college would do it mayor i mean i've i have some questions and apparently you don't have all the answers yet on this exactly i'd really want to know how many are we going to have what's our cost going to be for this operation and when are we thinking about having electric cars in our city fully and can we afford those i mean there's a lot of questions out here about this as far as the conduit boulevard is that i mean i know normally in any kind of building you can one conduit with nothing in it you know i just kept it off and you can run the lines and after so i think back in maybe stuff that's what we're looking to do because they can get done pretty much at no cost while the street is dug up and undergoing construction i mean there's a lot of i have a lot of questions on this i mean to me it's kind of like buying a cordless drill when you buy a charger first then we're buying the drill  so i would feel more comfortable if we have some more answers to move this out of committee that's how i feel about it questions came in and were answered but i think that just based on grant avila the veil ability there's a lot of grants out there now for municipalities that have existing charging stations that nic giving money back to so i think by doing this is certainly if we did it in a in a modest manner if we didn't you know put you know fifty of them within the city we didn't have the availability to collect extra monies from nic in terms of energy saving inefficiency grants so that's definitely something to consider as well that we were certainly would be on the cutting edge of the technology in would be available probably for more funding coming down the line  people on my committee be willing to vote to support this and reject it if we can't find a match the applicant would stand individually with the city would be responsible for its component the county would be responsible for once they're looking at a community college you know like fashion so if one entity did not put one in it's not that the other entities would have to cover the additional cost the expense would be again on a per unit basis in the preliminary costs are again roughly two council would make that decision but the operating expense of the electric cars is approximately half what a gasoline powered vehicle is so that you know the analysis becomes even though some of those are more expensive now and there have been different federal and state subsidies to create a market for those the cost of the vehicles is dropping and that  begin create the potential down the road or we would be able to operate vehicles at a lower rate they and our conventional fleet and again that would be the rate at which the meters were charging which are actually fee that you would charge for individuals who wish to bail the themselves of the stations to charge their vehicles while they were shopping or doing other business in o thank you no my pinion is a i think as long as this is just a grant application it's if it's our opportunity to purchase this equipment if the need arises and if we feel that it's appropriate at a future date i think we're going to apply for this we won't probably get an answer back right away and when we do get an answer back if for approval we you know we get the grant we'll have probably have a period of time to decide if we want to participate like many grants you can choose not to participate i think is that is that correct so that would be i think in the application deadline is in july expected the solution be made by early fall in terms of the award of it would not look to have the city undertake this project again if we were received affirmative response really in toll next year at this time when we were doing any of our paving or other summer construction and my pain and i think just the automotive industry itself is changing at such a rapid pace that electric cars are most definitely going to be a portion of the industry going forward so i don't think this is general feel it's a passing fad i think it's something people are buying lottery cars and the technology is becoming less expensive at a rapid rate they're affordable now with grants but i really feel over the next seven to ten years you'll see quite a few more of them on the road and so i think this puts us in a position to be able to install these systems with a grant if we find out three or four years from now we really need them and we don't have the grant will be paying the full amount so and in that ok then we can vote for the resolution to all in favor i great that keep in mind too also a revenue generator at some point would also be a revenue generator to at some point ok now ok we're going to call to order the city council caucus for june twenty fifth two thousand and twelve and the clerk will please read the resolutions in the public hearings introduced only with a resolution calling for a public hearing on monday july ninth two thousand and twelve at seven p m at council chamber room two zero nine schenectady city hall one o five j street schenectady ok this was discussed in committee only a cover the public hearing on july ninth without objection and consent from or one will appear in consent number two number two an ordinance creating the composition and mission of the energy advisory board board introduced only with a resolution calling for a public hearing on monday july ninth two thousand and twelve at seven p m at the council chambers room two zero zero nine schenectady city hall one hundred five j street schenectady ok again discussed in committee just a call for a public hearing without objection the still here on the consent agenda number three number three an ordinance amending proposed changes to chapter one forty four of the code of the city of schenectady to a additional requirements for dog owners with convictions of loose and or dangerous dogs within one year in the city of schenectady introduced only with a resolution calling for a public hearing on monday july ninth two thousand and twelve at seven p m at council chambers room two zero zero nine schenectady city hall one zero five j street schenectady ok again discussed in committee without objection and consent for a public hearing on july ni appear on the consent of gender member for item number four an ordinance amending proposed changes to chapter ninety three of the code of the city of schenectady regarding the civilian police review board introduced only with a resolution calling for a public hearing on monday july ninth two thousand and twelve at seven p m at council chambers room into all nine schenectady city hall one zero five j street schenectady ok without objection on consent number item number five an ordinance amending proposed changes to chapter one six one of the code of the city of schenectady regarding the trash place that curbside for pick up by the city of schenectady introduced only with a resolution calling for a public airing on monday july ninth two thousand and twelve at seven p m at council chambers room two zero zero nine schenectady city hall one hundred five j street schenectady ok again discussed in committee would seeing it no objections we placed on the consent agenda number six i am number six a resolution authorizing the city of schenectady to enter into a good home investment partnerships consortium with the city of troy and the town of colony without objection on consent number seven number seven a resolute ssion authorizing the mayor to enter into contracts with municipal agencies for the sale of surplus equipment and discussed in committee without objection number seven will appear on the consent agenda number eight number eight a resolution granting license to schenectady metroplex development authority to undertake an above ground streetscape repair program without objection on consent for number eight appearing on the consent agenda number nine number nine a resolution appointing charles w ford as city clerk of the city of schenectady all right in we'll take that one out of order without objection and consent you have i would you like a r thirty seven when paul street in the city of schenectady ok discussed in claims committee without objection consents number eleven number eleven her resolution authorizing the settlement of attacks are sure wary concerning the property located at seventeen south church street in the city of schenectady ok without objection placed number eleven on consent number twelve item number twelve a resolution authorizing the settlement of a tax or she wary concerning the property located at five state street in the city of schenectady without objection on consent number thirteen number thirteen under contract and supply a resolution authorizing the city of schenectady to enter into a contract with carver resolution supporting a grant application seeking funding for charging stations for electric vehicles again discussed very recently in committee without objection consent for thirteen a will appear on consent i don't believe there's anything else  with you for unanimous consent a resolution allowing suspension of composting at the wastewater treatment plant in authorizing the city of schenectady to enter into a contract with we care organics for hauling treatment plant in will move to more of an enclosed system in that will reduce our potential for odor at the site by a significant number will be one hundred percent  but very high and it's our cost for amendment going into the composting process that cost has gone up so again there's not the financial incentive that used to be there for composting in the composting facility itself is just at the end of its useful life so rather than make the significant capital investment there we would shift our process maybe look to upgrade the facility going to a higher level of drying techniques over the next couple years but we've got two more state of the art facility in this would be considered the first step in that process that will have the least impact on the ne reactor that's failed being would have to be rewelded and put back in the position and our goal is to really take it all temporarily we'll call it temporarily but i don't think when started if it need to be we could start a back up with the influx of of some capital money but right you know just kind of the ballpark schedule for the drier solution that that seems like a drier solution is a long term goal but what we're looking at well actually years four years or open two years and we actually will have an art of q well it will be on the street this week so we do have to look at something for updating the plant getting more capacity plant were better design flaw so the master plan will address all these issues from primary treatment all the way through such disposal  good questions ok great thank you open up the city council meeting for june twenty fifth two thousand and twelve and we have no one here tonight from the clergy but can we all rise all right we have one item to take out of order and i believe that's number nine and it's a resolution appointing charles w thorne as our city clerk for the city of schenectady and we're going to do a roll call and miss king would you like to introduce this i believe chuck has been an outstanding deputy clerk and my thirty's nonono has been gradually taking on this new responsibilities and i think he's an excellent choice for city clerk so i totally support this thank you and he would else willing to go through the roll org you see like one who does for wonderful support of work as a day deputy clerk for quite a while now and so it seems just a natural transition into the clerk we have a person who knows the job well who's proactive and certainly supported to the yes in my explanation i talked to mr thorne before the meeting started i want to stay consistent in my staying out of the way of political appointments so since the clerk is a political appointment it's known i'm going to abstain on this fall that has record yes absolutely and i can't thank you enough for all the work that you've done as deputy clerk and i know that you're going to do an excellent job as our city clerk so we welcome you glad that you've taken on the responsibility agreed to be our clerk and now we'd like to step forward and get sworn in three feet after me i state your full name do solemnly swear that i will support the constitution of the united states the constitution of the state of new york state in the charter in the code of the city of schenectady and that i will faithfully discharge the duties of city clerk in and for the city of schenectady according to the best of my ability for graduation i just like to thank the counsel for the confidence that they're showing in me and i want to say how rewarding the three years in the service of the city have been in working with the council and working with residents and working with the the staff at city hall i found that coming out of private industry there was a little bit of a culture shock but the rewards far outweigh the rewards especially in ok we have one public hearing scheduled tonight and that is revisions to the chapter one thirty eight of the code of the city of schenectady regarding unsafe demolition i have no one signed up for this public hearing petitions presented to the city council for monday june twenty fifth two thousand and twelve under the category of official from the mayor a list of appointments dated june twenty fifth two thousand and twelve under general there are none and there are no petitions ok thank you committee reports any committee reports this evening public services and utilities are making this report we've been getting some requests for residents from residents regarding what to do when their street lights are out so well we have a card here which will make available in the clerk office which explains to people quite thoroughly what to do and how to read the polls and how to get in touch with national grid in order to report that a street light is out so it's a concern that has come to our attention so we're going to make this of information available  office thank you anyone else committee reports council member i just wanted to shine a little late on something that's really wonderful that's going to be happening going forward and that is the u ndertaking of the above ground streetscape repair program it when it gets voted on here it's real property and improvements in the area of downtown schenectady covering from state street to the railroad overpass in veterans park j street pedestrian walkway broadway from stratton plaza to union street it's going to address faulty curbs handicapped ramps pavers plantings and other elements from curb to store fronts so it's just reports are closed move on to privilege of the floor on the legislative agenda i have one person signed up and that's tony been known if they're being used by the public how are we going to recharge the vehicles if we don't get them and another thing is i've read pros and cons on these electric cars now what is the life expectancy that we are going to look at for these cars because well is it going to save us enough money to pay for the extras that the cars cost plus the electricity than it would if we just bought a regular car news gas and it was just questions that i had my mind and i just want to congratulate chuck and i worked with eileen and chuck and they both are very good chuck graduations thank you thank you thoughtful questions tony thank you for those ok i have no one else signed up for the legislative agenda privilege of the floor i will declare that closed and move on to the consent agenda we have one item that will be a roll call and that is number thirteen item number thirteen under contract and supply a resolution authorizing the city of schenectady to enter into a contract with carver construction inc for the edison avenue call her replacement thank you yes as you know when this came out to us in committee i did have some questions regarding the minority and women business enterprise application to this or whether there was one of the part of the contract would be that would be part of it so i contacted the affirmative action office and they did respond regarding that and the response was that twelve percent of the of the contract to be awarded would be minority and women business enterprises so that break in the breakdown would be seven percent for minority big business enterprises and five percent for women which means that out of the total forty two thousand eight hundred seventy two which is twelve percent of the total contract twenty five thousand approximately would be for minority business enterprises and about seventeen thousand eight hundred for women's business enterprises so based on the information that received in the understanding that that would be part of the contract i just wanted to clarify that you know the information was given and that the that would be part of the contract and so i'm happy to vote yes as that's part of the contract thank you privilege of the floor on city business and the first person signed up never knew what happened to nobody knew anything about the fire station up on third street how deteriorate it got now it's finally being repaired or maybe it's completed by now but i think we ought to start here which city hall i believe there's a number of windows right here that could use some city that the city owns unearthing is i understand we have a contract with the county for repairing our vehicles i don't understand how it's possible to send a vehicle while for some minor repairs and i'm using this is an example ignition switch small items like that and wind up with a bill for six seven thousand dollars or more i think you ought to look into this and possibly go offer some some of these bills that they do for inspections i thought you'd inspected a vehicle once a year i understand the county wants inspect these vehicles quite frequently when they go in for repairs taken the wheels off check in the transmission all kinds items that they pull up like that that's not necessary i know if you or i went to our mechanic and had that kind of treatment we wouldn't be very happy and i'm not happy about taxpayer money being spent that way i'm still furious off over some of the gifts and this power you increase is that i don't think are really young just ten thousand dollars twenty thousand dollars come on this is two thousand and twelve we've had five years of hard times here financially at least and you've given money away like that if you want to give somebody a gift take a bow to your own pocket not taxpayer money that's not right to give somebody a gift of ten thousand dollars not even a city resident to top it off but he worked here for the city and he got taken care of i haven't heard much about these four individuals insert talk of tony in the police department getting vehicles or go home i hope that gets knocked right out of there right off completely stopped that's wrong call for allowing vehicles to go home and when people are called in for emergencies what time do they start when they get the phone call and how long it's taking to get here we got a bad situation there let me tell you and i think perhaps we will look into subcontract that and put them on the beat thank you m is the dogs why are we going after people just with conviction that's targeting people but convictions well to everybody because everybody have a vicious dog around schenectady not only to people that have convictions i think that's wrong and chuck congratulation tony h these fires people are having you open fires at night i know we're told to call the fire department but if we open our doors and windows at night we don't know what the fires are i'm not going out at nine o'clock at night looking through t order it's the smell the still coming in the house i don't know if we could advertise it someplace a little more than what we do for a walk but you know like i say at night i'm not going out in the neighborhood look and see where the fires are but there still are open fires around and i don't know what the situation is i know you can't have people touring well you know going around all the time looking but if we could advertise it a little more maybe thank you t the city's fleet of cars i am going to tie in this expanse where the comments that were made at the last council meeting regarding consolidation counterparts how they address medical coverage for part time city officials in order to save money or go to all benet and asked the members of the common council how they handled the issue of fluoride for beautification drive over to saratoga to see how they beautify their city it rains there too but their grass isn't us high as ours is it's called pride not excuses th council has good role models all over the capital district who can tell you how things are on in their cities which brings me back to this lead of cars get rid of them private sector companies do not supply emergency cars for their workers hospitals don't worry no official has said we are going to work to lower taxes in schenectady the mayor came stelling us there is value and schenectady homes  homeowner can ask any price for his home it's the administration's responsibility to lower those taxes so that people want to buy them here and continue to live here start by initiating a ten percent reduction on all city homes take the waste out of the contracts stop needless bending and sell these cars nothing will improve if the taxes don't come down that's what the people want lower taxes so could you remove your fleet now to thank you i was wondering if you could remove your fleet now to a good airborne in afghanistan on his third tour he's thirty three years old apparently my messages not being heard i have twice than the last few years called for the u s attorney general and the justice department to be summoned to investigate corruption and civil rights violations by police and public officials in the northeast corridor of the night of this country beginning in schenectady once again on saturday six twenty three i witnessed in a rest where i live over here municipal housing i have a neighbor across the hall from me a woman by name of maggie rivera she gets up to four o'clock every morning and works fired due to what union college as a cook she's a sweetheart of a person do anything for anybody never ever been arrested never ever been handcuffed never been in trouble with the law i personally heard a pounding when i went in by a quarter after ten there was a group of us listen a yankee game outside and we had some latin music playing that wasn't playing very loud i heard a pounding i opened up my door and i was just going to the police officer with his foot up against my neighbor's do pound on his hard as he could trying to kick her door i said what the heck is going on i was told to shut my door and stay in my room i said absolutely no well maggie was subsequently handcuffed and arrested and taken away while i was there i witnessed this and heard this maggie asked numerous times what am i being arrested for why are you doing this to me knowing answers her miranda rights were never ever given door while she was in my presence i don't know if they did in the police car when  took her downtown or not a few of us should have a good downtown and wait as they gave all they do is give her an appearance ticket tell her to walk home it just out of control and never ok i have no one else signed up for pillars of the floor i was a clear that closed one thousand comments from the council no comments from the council i think it's maybe the editors of the gazette had a wrong idea about how many televisions and whatnot are put at the curb and i was forwarded some information the work orders and since the end of january january thirtieth until the fifteenth of june there was almost twenty two hundred tv's picked up at curbside in the city of schenectady so that's like in a five month period now the problem that comes to the light is the valuables that are in these t v s obviously there was one person that was picked up for doing this they're taking those valuable materials out of the t v s then either leaving the t v there and mr olsen also told me that the t v s that they have at home that they've already scavenged they'll bring it back to the curb and take a t v that hasn't been scavenged yet so this stuff's got to stop i personally feel with my garbage i don't want anybody picking through my garbage i'm not trying to be mean spirited or stop anybody from whatever they're trying to do when i put my garbage to the curb i pay for the service for the city of schenectady picked my garbage up if it's not done properly then i'll complain to the city of schenectady but i don't want people picking through it because i've witnessed before many times things left in disarray tops left off the cans blowing down the street this is an expense to the homeowner and it's not right not only that there's some personal information sometimes some people's garbage believe it or not i shred most of the time when i can but some people don't there's personal things and garbage maybe medicine bottles things like that that i don't want anybody looking through there so that's my business i think it's everybody's right to have that done so anyhow i as far as the legislation i think it's fine i hope people come to speak at the public hearing on this but my eyes were really opened up when i found out the amount of electronic center we pick up at curbside in the short time from january thirtieth to law june fifteenth and twenty two hundred t in monitors that's that's a lot of lot of stuff tonnage it's huge so this has to be addressed and i'm glad we're going to have public hearings on this so i thank mr follett taiko for addressing this i had a call today mayor from residents and had them in st that the graffiti problem there that's happened mainly over the memorial day weekend it's not being addressed so whether code should be talking to the people that owns these properties i think it's something that has to be done one fella says one guy he's had it needs sees he wants to move away so i think we have to address these problems it's something that's been going on and on and and it's something that has to be addressed the letter to the editor the other day about central park that was kind of disheartening i think about that the the condition that our park is and i hope that we can put some kind of plan together again i'll ask again  we need an anti litter campaign for sure and i spoke to chief shares at a meeting and councilwoman porterfield also spoke to chief chairs about this and i think he's willing to go forward with the anti littering campaign at least for a time to show people that we mean business just trash being thrown out of car windows and people for some reason i don't understand it think it's ok to deal with that i don't know what could be going through people's minds but just roll down the one dollar and throw a bag of mcdonald's out the window and it's ok so i think we have to send a strong message and hopefully we can work something out with chief chairs and that the partment to start issuing some citations when this is consequence to this our city there's parts of the city the just don't look good because it's dirty and there's a lot of rubbish around and i think we have to address this to make this a good livable city for us all so i hope we can work something out with that because it's present just a couple of things first of all congratulations to chad parkman and the merchants they had a very successful first annual pride celebration on saturday they had live music and it was just it was a wonderful atmosphere and a great way to show that the embraces diversity and we welcome all people to our city it was just it was a wonderful event so congratulations to chad i'm sure we can look forward to another next year also want to mention that saturday june thirtieth there is a caribbean guy anees food and music celebration at central park it starts at noon and a couple of housekeeping things i want to remind residents that they can now file in on line report for minor crimes within the city anything from saft to graffiti now keep in mind that police still want to talk to people directly if they can identify a suspect or there's a crime in progress so it's really just for minor crime and if they go to the schenectady they can do that also it's been about six months since i've mentioned the nine eleven a i think it's a good reminder for us to all have that people can go online to w w w nine one one ai dot com and they can put in additional information so that it can be helpful when the fire department comes to know where they are in their home what kind of medications they are taking if they have pets it also has provision for emergency numbers if there's an elderly adult in your life that calls nine one one the service will actually contact you so it's good for daughters and sons also so again it's nine one one a i dot com that is a free service from the city and finally i want to express  old and they're certainly kind of a cornerstone in the state in erie boulevard very popular business and has been you know worked very well with the city and i just want to sit you know weekend also as i was leaving the committee meeting last monday i was driving past actually i got a text and there was an incident a shooting at jerry world park a very very extremely unfortunate event and a young man i don't know his condition but was shot there it didn't happen in the park i just want to clarify that for people it happened on the street but the proximity was too too close to the park so you know we're working on some things to try to call the violence in all  just that particular community but people have to to help us and to participate over the weekend there was a got a gun buyback program that was sponsored in there was a total of twenty eight weapons i believe were turned in and people came from all over the city and comeback and wonderful things are happening and so we want people throughout the city to be a part of that and to feel comfortable in coming here and just to remind people and building community because that's what i really believe in there are you know we should work hard on ways to mediate conflicts and not to to end it in a violent manner so hopefully we can work together work on this and and have connected be the place that we'd all like to see it also just want to remind people there is another event on saturday as well the hamilton hill neighborhood association is sponsoring a block party on to wayne avenue between avery and baucus and it starts at twelve p m and ends at six p m they'll be music face painting down to bounce food and just a wonderful event and everyone is invited and for more information you could call seven to eight eight four one nine thank you ok thank you everyone else thank you better president couple of quick comments the in last year's budget the city council did put fifty thousand dollars in the capital budget to paint city hall do some of the trim work in the windows and we are preparing that to start that project pointed out and with recycling the legislation the council's looking at in terms of people who sort through the garbage it's important that we continually talk about recycling in the community where people separate their waste and they set aside the paper products they said oh side the tin plastic and glass because we do derive some revenue from that that may be a good thing if we get those numbers out to the council in get them on the web site on a weekly or maybe a monthly basis so that people can see actually how much material we do pick up in that's going a lot of the work that city employees do that they don't necessarily get credit for but they're out there every day doing a job that does make a difference and does improve the quality of life here will try to follow up on the graffiti tragic tragic death of that young business owner on saturday are our thoughts and prayers go out to him in terms of what the one thing that came up tonight someone talked about  e new intimate legislation that we're proposing and that it would somehow affect people who already had any type of convictions that's totally incorrect it looks towards people who have more one offense around an unlicensed dog a loose dog or a dangerous dog and will move up from there in terms of any other convictions that he one has it really has nothing to do with that piece of legislation just so we set