holistic therapy and you're in mcmurtrie yes and then you have another office location in the north hills and north hills so you pretty much cover the greater pittsburgh area i do would you give us a little bit of background i know your you have a degree from the university of pittsburgh yes and yours you're licensed in the state of pennsylvania for a clinical social worker and what does that entail that does i'm a person who does psychotherapy with people with mental illness or just difficult issues of difficulty in living and there are a lot of difficulty there are a lot of difficulties there and sometimes as if we're not giving into their selves we're going to hear from other people or say about other bureaucracies so there's a lot that there are a lot of challenges in the also want to add that i'm also licensed in the state of pennsylvania as a massage therapist ok which is important so i do mind body and spirit transformational psychotherapy you have to say what does that mean it's a big  it's a big one i began my career as a psycho therapist and i was in practice for fifteen years and i focused mostly on helping people heal from trauma and  longstanding depression anxiety chronic disorders like that and then after a period of time i realized that talking to people wasn't enough that real transformational change occurs in the body and it also occurs in the energy field that surrounds the body so you see energy filled and i got be frank with you can really years ago in my early life i would have left that energy field and everything but i in my challenges with life and my health in my research my enlightenment we can call it i've come to realize that our body is nothing but energy that's correct we give off fills we medically can can measure those they're body different really near where the shockers are which years ago i had no idea what a shocker is or chalk or i guess is the correct pronunciation but we push that device and it actually measures in the electrical field coming out from those energies that's right points and so we are nothing but an electrical field that's right and we ourselves all live off of energy and hold the electricity that's right over the whole lot as a result of the electricity which makes us healthy so i just wanted the audience to understand what what you meant by g right so the energy is more connected to our spiritual nature and the physical body of course is a direct manifestation of our spiritual nature and the mind intersects and interacts with the physical body and between the two of them they make up who we are so we are a mind body and spirit being absolutely ok so i discovered that there is a body below the talking head so as a psychotherapist i talked with people and we would get nice changes but we didn't have deep transformational change until i began to work with the body and when i began to work with the body and integrate that with those psychotherapy then i discovered oh my goodness there's a whole spiritual side to the person that is not being addressed and i'm not talking of religious side i'm talking our spiritual nature as a being walking on this planet that may have eternal life right so when you integrate three you can tap into any pathway within the person that is ready to change that's key because if somebody is not ready it's not going to happen and that's correct  they have to be we're ready and willing to change to listen even and it yes but mostly to be ready to change everything and one of my teachers said if you have a teacup and the tea cups turned over if you pour tea on the tea cup it's not going to go in so part of what i do is i help people turn the teacup this way so that when i pour the tea in which is the new learning or the the education about themselves as a mind body spirit the teacup can hold some of that water or some of that tea and then big change can begin to happen so part of our work is learning how to turn it up to make up gets turned upside down because of and part religion yes part of institutional education governing bodies government and infringement family dynamic family dynamics and all that turns out to topple over yes and the world can be a really scary place for most of us and if we haven't had support love nurturing care giving early in our childhoods it makes it much more difficult to approach life from a less fearful place you know that's always talk  ey when i when i have lectures on health care i'm not talking health insurance i'm talking actually caring for the body and supporting the body because there's a confusion there for a lot of people but medicine kind of dictates by fear yes and it puts you in a fear mode and you respond accordingly sometimes not to your benefit that's right and so when you look at life without fear you're actually having a much better experience in life that's right when you're not looking through the eyes if you're right it's a filter and it doesn't have to be there but it is there for most people to some degree what's one of the ways to eliminate that fear well i've been studying for the last twenty five years the way help ways to help people eliminate their fearful responses by thinking differently a lot of people with anxiety do something called catastrophic thinking and so they are not in the here and now they're projecting some potential future that's frightening to them they tell themselves a story about what could happen and they're frightened in response to it and this becomes a patterned way of living in the world so catastrophic thinkers are always anxious and they're never here present in the moment so enjoy life conversely if you're depressed you tend to ruminate about the past so you're of stuck in the past and you can't see a way into a decent future a healthy future and so being able to bring yourself into the present moment with various techniques that we can learn in therapy either from the future that's scary bring it back or from the past that's scary bring it forward into the now living in the now is healthy so you're not enjoying what you're doing right now because you're worrying about the the past or the yes and most of the time doing it unconsciously yes it's not even happening at your conscious awareness so part of my job is to bring it into your conscious awareness and then help you shift your thinking or your feelings into the present moment so you can be here now so you come upon this by not only medical training but more a kind of a spiritual training as well right well i'm classically trained as a psycho therapist so i have all of those arrows in my quiver to offer people cognitive behavioral  therapy hypnotherapy a lot of the other more traditional talk therapies so then i expanded way beyond that to add more arrows in my quiver to help people which makes you far more effective and i believe so in actually  taining results for people yes i believe so i do too and i kind of approach my aspect of my traditional medical training with some of the things that you're talking about and i see it work write it and it's absolute is what's extraordinary and it's what makes the work so enjoyable and such a delight and joy for me because i get to see people transform before my very eyes and when you can offer that to the world it's a wonderful thing absolutely so some of these therapies like as a massage therapist what does massage do for this well i don't actually do massage i got a massage license in order to be able to touch people because as a psychotherapist you can't so this offers me the opportunity to work both in the body and with talk therapy  so therapy is very light hands on touch therapy it's done fully clothed on a treatment table and it involves very gentle pressures on the bones of the head the bones of the spine and the bones of the pelvis there is a rhythm in the body that's not much talked about it's the very first rhythm that develops in gestation in utero and it's the very last rhythm that this fluid which is corresponded to with movement of the bones and when you have a proper alignment of the body and you have freedom of restriction of this fluid movement the cranial rhythm goes thirteen times a minute on a normal healthy person if you have a fever or if you're really sick the cranial rhythm increases in frequency and if you're very very if you're oxygen deprived or if you're really really  like brain disordered or if you have a neurological condition or if you are in a deteriorating health condition the crane your sake or rhythm slows way down and sometimes you may only get three to four pulses a minute so what happens when the creative cycle rhythm pulses is the head expands and contracts and it expands and contracts and it if i'm holding the head here and the tail bone here the rhythm you can feel the bones moving in synchrony like this and this is a healthy rhythm and most people who come to me don't have a healthy rhythm they've had a concussion they've had a brain injury they've had surgery or an illness fall or a fall or a car accident or a trauma of some kind even emotional trauma can set the rhythm off and bring it back into synchrony and harmonious movement is the goal of the treatment and people i've seen people with long standing centers in the body and when we are experiencing an emotional trauma the energy of that trauma even if it's just words actually enters into the body and if the trauma is to the heart for example somebody saying i don't love you anymore if you didn't expect that and you're shocked by it you will have an impact of energy probably doing the mike thing you'll probably have an impact of energy into the chest which will affect the flow of energy through the heart over time with more and more of those kinds of impacts the heart shocker begins to close down and you don't get energy moving through the heart you know what's interesting and in in my research over the years in the study of this science medical science has found that there's a spot in the heart that has its own own frequency that they cannot isolate and it moves around in the heart so it's not in a stationary position it's different than the regular electrical potential of the heart  totally different yeah it's a field you know it's an energy fields around it's very minute but very intense and not localized at it it's never the same position all the time and that's the physical heart you're talking i'm talking about physical art yeah and then energy in the pineal gland that's like that too so you know living in arizona i started studying local cultures as specially the hope hope hope and they're very spiritual in the very earthbound culture right and they talked about the creator giving the people two forms of energy one living in the pineal gland the other living in the heart and here medical science is just backing they're just beginning to understand that right and i think that's what you're you're addressing that's what you're talking about it is the heart the heart is actually the heart center or the energy center of the heart is actually the gateway to the the higher realms in the sense of our spiritual understanding of of life the heart opening begins to activate your ability to connect to divinity so we always want to ask are you are you standing or walking in with an open heart and most people are not and they don't even know it and because we're all the walking wounded on this planet and life is hard like i said before life is hard family so hard school is hard culture is hard religion can be hard on us and we close down over time and we don't trust we're fearful and we don't believe or trust in love so opening the heart is the first step to opening yourself to a more divine understanding and a connection to the divine it sounds what i call a used book but medical science is is justifying it there their finding all of these things to be the case that these that this is truth right and we're having a meeting of science and spirituality is beginning to converge most likely in the area of the quantum physics where we're beginning to understand what energy actually is and i've created a modality called energy alignment and connection which is a step beyond cranio psychotherapy it kind of stands on the great shoulders of the founders of great musical therapy which actually allows me to align the energy body to the physical body so if you've had a whiplash injury and you've had a your head go like this and then bounce back which is what whiplash is you sometimes get a little bit of brain injury swells the brain swells and depending on the velocity and the force of the whip during a car accident for example or fall you actually can leave an imprint of the energy of your head out here  and when you whip back you can leave an energy imprint of your head in the back and of course then the neck energy goes with it to hold the head energy there so when i assess people with my hands i can actually feel where their body is now misaligned with their energy body and i've been gifted with the ability to put that back and it is a good realignment you know i i think everybody kind of has a lot of people become suppressed as we talk about but i think there are some people that are just more in tune with that and really can call it a gift that's true that's true in fact when i started my training doing craniosacral the teacher said in ten or fifteen years you're going to have the hands that can feel what i feel but you don't have it now so with repetitive practice and time spending with just developing the sensitivity in your hands you're actually building neural networks in your brain associated with sensation in your hand well you know here's another i keep wanting to relate  the medical science yeah that's people's mind thought that's right but you know that fashion that we have that covers our muscles and everything we pull off of a steak that is the the network of nerves that all the electrical pathways move through it is the network that the electrical and the energetic pathways move through almost like a ocean under the ocean absolutely and it moves through the fashion and amazingly fascist surrounds every structure in the every organ every force in every tissue and bone is surrounded by fashion so i work in the fashion and i release restrictions in the fashion and suddenly the body self read lights and gets better yeah it's amazing and then  real big on educating people on the word function and if there are controls all of that it does and that's the the biggest misunderstood misdiagnosed under diagnosed undertreated oh my golly body isn't that the truth and when you have a whiplash  so the energy alignment i do on top of the cranial sacral and then i went back to training and i got trained as an energy healer so that's a whole nother category is that it's not it's not reiki it's called cellular expansion ok and it's a very profound set of frequencies of energy that i was trained to be able to deliver through my hands and i use that as an adjunct to the psychotherapy because it helps to bring to the surface the issues and the feelings and the memories that you don't have consciously so it brings things up to the surface so that we can then deal with it in the psychotherapy are you reiki master no no psychotherapy and i went back and got trained in the m d are rich enough for me with them i movement desensitisation and reprocessing ok and this is been around for about thirty years it uses the rapid  movement across the visual field by following a trigger finger and it actually begins to help people process trauma so many times people are way overwhelmed by a traumatic experience they cannot integrate their feelings their thoughts their beliefs or the shattering of their beliefs because of a traumatic event and so they suppress or they dissociate those experiences from their consciousness but they walk around traumatized and wounded and acting that way and p t s d is one example of that post traumatic stress disorder so this modality was developed quite by accident it was kind of us or independence find that people were able to actually process trauma by you moving their eyes rapidly across their visual field and it almost is like the ability to accelerate the emotional processing for the nervous system and a few sessions of of r can help someone who's been who suffered perhaps a rape or who has suffered a traumatic event any kind of traumatic event and so it's really helpful for p t s d and even medicine just want to medicate you so that's correct so you don't remember them or forget about that's a great walk around to life or a vegetable yeah yeah and this is approach is to get rid of them look for the cure look for we just move them along correct we don't want to mask the symptoms because the symptoms have great meaning we want to bring the symptoms up into awareness and then understand what story they're telling our patients referred to you doctors other therapists who don't do what i do and word of  mouth if i see one person then we get a great result seven other people will walk in my door at some point in the future because they've told them how effective it is right so you do something  geometry to the the combination of other modalities and began to discover i was getting amazing results i've never found with anything else so the modeller days that i've combined are e m t are which i just talk to you about something called e f t which is emotional freedom technique and some people refer to it as tapping and that's where you find a meridian point on your meridian lines an acupuncture point and you tap on it firmly for about ten to twelve times and you tap on certain points in a specific sequence and all of a sudden the symptom begins to disappear in the moment so for example if you're very anxious or you're having a panic attack there are a cig there's a sequence of tappings points that you can do and in about five to ten minutes you can actually divert yourself from having a panic attack is that work for pain as well it also works for pain it works for the stories behind the disease the story behind an illness why is somebody needing to manifest an illness or a disease at this point in their life you can discover that through the use of the m d r and tapping and the third modalit called t f t which is thought field therapy and this is been around for twenty five or thirty years was developed by a psychologist named roger callahan and well researched and it also involves tapping but it involves other things like moving the eyes humming a tune and counting and it actually inputs new information into the nervous system by doing all that you're kind of creating a new frequency you are what you're actually doing is taking thoughts and beliefs that have a very low frequency vibration and you are eliminating those from the nervous system from the pattern of your nervous system then you use the t f t with the eye movements and you input something of a higher vibration so for example i hate myself your cells respond to that language yourselves respond to the vibration of that or i can attest that as i i do it is almost kind of an educational joke and i don't use that word joke lightly because it's kind of entertaining for people but i'll do muscle testing on people and i'll tell them say i hate myself and they have a cat can't resist my arm i treasure whatsoever but i say i love myself i can't pull their arm down it's right but the minute i say i hate to have them say i hate myself i put a lot of pressure on brakes this electrical circuit adi right absolutely so the cells are responding to the language and the vibration of the words and so when we input the new using intention intention as always part of you is setting in intention like you know i i want these thoughts out and then and then go yeah you have to set that intention to do the well you identify what the theme or the issue is you want to change ok and then you identify eight beliefs that you hold about that thing so if it's your self worth i'm no good i can't do enough to nobody loves me you know you what are these beliefs and these are often unconscious belief so it takes a little time to mine them from the depths of your your psyche once you identify these eight beliefs we then do i movements in sacred geometric patterns across an eight sided figure and it generates new feelings so if you do that first with the beliefs you no longer want the stuff you're ready to get rid of and then you do it again a week later with new beliefs which generate new feelings that are of a higher frequency so we go from despair and anger and sadness to joy happiness and peace you input the new one into the nervous system and then two weeks later your life is different i've had people with addictions stop using addictive substances after one session of this 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