that i do need to get that in by friday next week on the web  so it's just you kno o i'm wondering if you want to do that on monday or tuesday morning next week  to figure out if they're also going to move forward that they wanted to do something next week tuesday wednesday or thursday and wanted me to get back to them to a tuesday of the same you know right after tuesday morning they want a couple possibilities because they've got to coordinate all these different people so tuesday wednesday thursday next week a couple of ideas and are you all planning to go or just  forward to hire somebody and i don't know how much you talked with craig my understanding about this whole thing was they were just looking for one person from each one to come together to talk about it to make sure it was ok but you have to bring it back to everybody else and i think that was the was that was cool and it made sense that he did that and on that note i think it would make some sense you know after seeing lois responses and she had great answers yet she didn't give her answers because she's from essex and she needs to be pointed you know to bite by one of us but i thought there was we could if you realized the staff of the town better and i think that they should be in the front of the front row but peter raising support facing out i think that's think would be good to work on we're always working on our communication skills up like thanks for a comment we're a great town you know we're all together here you know bringing you know hopefully bring a little more of that feeling to it i mean it's where people got a little upset with us if we had done that from florida when jericho was was asked the same meetings discussing the same thing and they were able to mourn and so there's some confusion i think by the public why that happening i did in so when then came in and we never talked about it until after governor and everything was signed and my understanding and talking with us expressed it was he wanted to handle it from the floor to begin with he thought it would be better there's more information here and he's offered to come in and speak but from the notes that i saw the slippered was just asking for a sample of the policy at that point so i don't know if you guys want to take it any further or not like i said that all took place before my time so i've given you additional information and there's a little extra in here here if you're interested  bit of runaround i think it's going to put a lot of time into this but they lack and it's not because it's a task force almost like lack of an ability to make make those next steps you know i've got really need to push for there's there realistic now work that would need to be done of like typing and building a document and looking at future strategies specially for the capital plan for the town which is something that the committee has to come to a conclusion as the first thing  is how much gravel we need to that we can we have we need we want and that we can legitimately use with the crew size and the budget we have and we don't have that and we need to make that when we pass this five thousand dollar budget i don't twenty five hundred was set aside to hire a consultant now there's a guy who we have in mind that's world growth or something on that has an expertise on dirt roads roads but then of course you'd have to have a collaboration with a i picture a pretty massive under not massive but it puts size undertaking so that's kind of why i'm bringing that part up and then there's there's a few other there's there's that step that we need to address so we still could be in charge of building the s thinks needs to be done but i don't he doesn't have the time or the it's a skill set of regular plan like that and i think that's a skill set so that's the one thing i'm asking about  here it's something that says we bought this for this or this or this so we can get a feel for what we're spending all this money on we have a pretty tight down along you know what we spend in stone what we you know like like last year like last year take for example  season you know we know exactly how much how many modes of stone we bought you know can't say exactly where they all laugh yeah you know account for every single load but we know we separate stone from one or sand from and that's ms and right so we have slipped so my feeling would be that we should ask mona to go back as far as she can and her and read us some categories these different things but i think you're right if we could somehow have it so there was an easy way for the guys to keep track pictures of what it was before or after all the people track of what you did to fix it that way if you have a record by road and you have documentation once you hit three times on that road it then becomes eligible walter so we can do one thing we can do a great way to get more to cough up as much information as she can to this committee correct that that makes sense right yeah how do the receipts come into here when when one of them goes to monitoring what we're going to spend this year and then come up with a capital plan will be able to answer at least those questions a little more clearly and we can get together all of the go to really go over go the worst of the worst where we have a database is what i'm trying to say is we have a bill yes with road sections i get that about my idea that one of you probably know more about the design i think that would be better to have than i do as in really and i don't know well i would say i would break it down into what categories to put that in if we're trying to write it out well we could have rod put those when he comes out you know every other week to go over all these slips and give us stuff the moment you can just jot down if this was all spent for you've got to be very careful you know speaking for the board rather as a board or board member who writes privately i think i've got to be really careful about that ok all right barbara starr problems with i'm not on that committee anymore probably doesn't make comment period is is over but i'm so when you came here to write i was i came here because i happened to be on the website and saw that you have a meeting today and it appeared that one of the items on the with the i'm going to be meeting with the jerk o under bill fire department and a member of the turkel select board to talk about the contract so i don't know if it would be beneficial we're going to respond to your e mail but i felt like i wanted to go to that to see if there's any you know that could shed any light on your concerns i mean i have to educate you guys and i want to this leopard now that  to start by process and indicated so during the town meeting and i communicated with the secretary of state i work in montpelier i've lived in underhill since two thousand and i was i was upset with the process because there were other items on the that were properly mourn that the everybody got to go down and this statement was made by nobody here at this table after meeting that there was not time to warn this item which appears on your minutes months and months and months ahead of counting meeting day and then when i got home it was the state it was made at town meeting not only was there not time to mourn it but there wasn't time to put it into the town report and when i got home and looked at with jericho had morning and saw that they had adequate time to work there every single voter i thought that was a little unusual so i contacted the secretary of state's office to ask regarding process because i'm not familiar with the process in our town meeting but i think it's a little i thought it was a little unusual that a select board member would stand up at the beginning of the meeting and say i have this amendment that's not anywhere but we're going to talk about it and according to the secretary of state with whom i e mail back and forth as to what the process was he indicated to me  jericho had felt more appropriate process in warning it to their entire community and his second indicated to me if the warrant budget was it i told him that the line item on the budget showed the forty five hundred dollars amounts x if that is it the war in iraq is a budget amount of x and then there's an amendment to if the original budget item is x and the budget has no notice of the proposed increase and no increase is warned that the moderator at that point should have ruled an amendment to raise the that budget item to be not germane and it appears that most of the i didn't do that i mean i stood up and said reject to the process here this really bothers me and i didn't use the magic words of saying i'm asking the moderator to rule this not germane but with with no notice to anybody other than a s member standing up at the beginning of the meeting the secretary of state themselves indicated that that was not a proper process so just going forward as of the last of the jericho i recall fire department i think it's a great idea i think if you had one that you would have gotten overwhelming support for and i'm just disturbed with the process because we warned the roof and we form the truck every single person who walks into submitted ballot gets to vote on those but the fire no notice of it and i take exception to the comment that was made to everybody in that room that there wasn't time to work nap or to at a minimum put it in the budget so anybody looking at the budget would have noticed hey there's a for fair warning and that was our fault definitely so i'm satisfied i just wanted to bring it to your attention to say hey this was just a weird thing that happened you know a lot of people afterwards were like you had no problem but why wasn't it someplace anyplace and maybe if it'd been apologize i didn't get a chance to yes i thought i had printed out the permit for you folks to sign but i don't i just have the allegation has me so this is an access from an application related to a subdivision basically i should try and explain his comment here because i had to get x i had to get clarification on it apparently there is a  so that people fall through with them so well we see like the fifth car you know after the fact someone is not happy or something didn't turn out or there was a miscommunication about how things were supposed to be done decided to approve this access permit you just we have conditions just you know make sure you know rods comments are are reflected in anything else that you see that you think might be like what only dropping trees in our right of way and you know is there going to be proper you know signage you know how is that you know just because you can have the permit you know how and then what happens after the fact you know what's you know how does it get implemented know that meets the twelve percent grade and there is still a conflict between the road policy which has a ten percent grade in the new unified land rates which as a twelve percent max grade this really sure ground that you know because the wells are liability you know say the contractors out there dropping trees on the right of way in our right of way across the road or wherever and you know one hits a power line or handling these access permit applications ones that are part of subdivision applications if there's a curb cut or an access request to a town road that's the jurisdiction of the slack or if it's a private road or a private driveway with some caveats that actually has fallen to the d r p so a lot of the a lot of the responsibility has been lifted from the select for the idea but for the ones that are slick or jurisdiction i'd like to you know thoughts are in the subdivision itself so i don't know how you would want to handle that if you want to come to maybe a preliminary hearing and give some kind of feedback on a preliminary design or if you want someone from the d r p as a representative to come to a select board meeting before the final hearing that's at subdivision i mean that's kind of a thing that i've been thinking about how to do branch across and get that coordination of hand panned out a little bit under the old regulations and that's where that catch twenty two comes in because it's not in the regulations anywhere the order is that that access approval should come so i had a i had a question from and engineers firm about well do we get the road approval now or do we wait because in the old the old way of doing it was the d r p made recommendations in their final decision their five subdivision decision to the select four for their approval and they thought that was kind of and i said yeah doesn't really make much sense either way but this is the situation at work so something to think about in terms of formation and i will have the permit ready to and this one has pretty detailed engineering rather than just a little so what went up there on monday did it made sense to me then i could sometimes and i mean as long as you had some kind of indication about approval from the board i mean contract is so that we can actually have her come aboard and help us out with that she's a professional planner she stopped us up for this is a little bit unusual in that she had a copy of the contract and she changed over computers and it got messed up somehow so she sent over a copy of a different contract with her signature sign the one that doesn't have her signature because i did not hear back from iraq back into use this it was for a different talent and i didn't feel comfortable just putting our stuff in and having her old signature on there you know what i mean it just felt funny to me so her signature isn't on here but it's forthcoming ok i talked to more marty core cell at champlain consulting about the working storm water or storm water for the stormwater permits and he said that he's going to recommend to the state that we take no action until spring  it's the state's criteria and that hasn't actually been done and part of the problem is i think the homeowners associations that are involved are not aware that it's partly their responsibility for both maintenance and reporting and the town is also considered a co applicant in these things so we've been gathering some information and trying to see what we need to get those things through certified because they were at one point considered kind of orphaned stormwater permits there's two and guy is doing is we have to have an engineer actually go out and certify it so he was taking a look at the information available from the state on the two on the two applications which is a much and he also took a look i think he went out to both the site here so we're following his recommendations that we just wait until spring and then go through the resurface cation and i recommended these people because they do the same work look we got a grant to do they have to host an active living workshop in october with jericho so we're looking at the flats area and looking at ways to improve walkability and live ability in the village area basically burton who was an intern who's a national expert came in and led the workshop and gave us a report with some recommendations and we had participants from both towns that went to the workshop and get their input and things like that so this is  follow up trying to get more folks to commit to the report some of the actually from the report what they're looking at they're looking at the intersection of dickinson and river road and looking at the that my understanding is that the jericho select board has actually chosen their preferred alternative for the engineering of dickinson street so this group is  be pursuing ways to help the town move forward with that and also trying to make that a complete street the class one recommendation is kind of an interesting thing that came out of the last meeting some of the recommendations that came out of the report were that we create corridors and let people know that they are coming into a village area trying to get the traffic to slow down we want to look at pedes was to have both towns look into the possibility of taking the for that portion of her fifteen and that's what the class one recommendation group is looking into park street is looking at similar things of in terms of up everything and that's what they're looking into they're looking into the process they're looking into the cost and basically doing their own little mini study that recommendation that group is actually meeting on march twenty ninth at eight pm at the village cup in case you're interested in attending the other three groups as far as i'm aware  actually scheduled their meeting we are hoping and that's myself todd and jennifer over a jericho and jennifer was a or p r hoping to have another crew coordination meeting in april with a final meeting in may so that all the groups can come together with their final action plan so that we can go forward with the implementation when i say we i mean the groups so if you have any questions about which which group is doing what everyone will print out for each group but if you want me to for this email i can certainly do that we've asked the groups to keep us of in the loop as to when there are meetings so that in case they need staff support they have questions or if the select board is interested wants just to gather some information  is probably going to be that way dickinson street there's been quite a bit done on that already that's they want to just push that toward implementation of the gateways thing they're going to be looking at and in fact the select boards in both towns  approved of using the three thousand dollars grant money that we got for implementation toward gateway treatments they'll be things like looking at how much road trees will cost or signage things like that  and then the park street intersection with river road that's going to be looking at intersection treatments and i'm not sure exactly what's going to come of that because a lot of what was recommended for more long term solutions that may get the last thing i had was i actually went through and finally put together a reckoning of days or weeks it's been a long time coming and i'm not expecting you to what's the biggest train well the zoning fees have been updated to reflect what are what's required by the unified land rights so some of the things for instance have changed we didn't have anything for a group home there was nothing in there for discontinuance of upon there was nothing in there necessarily about encroachments or development in a special plug hazard area the boundary line adjustment has changed because it's no longer a d r b hearing requirement it's an administrative approval you know so those are things that have changed i increased a couple of the feel used but this is the hearing fees have not increased so you know if you see something that is completely out of whack i guess you know that's really great yeah i see that there are any other people like me who come in here oh isn't questions like there are these going over pretty well they seem you know something it just depends it depends on the person who comes in and what they want to do  it's kind of interesting i was just saying today that this time last year i already had six permits and i've only had to sell them so between now and the end of the fiscal year if i'm going to be on par with last year i need to get twenty four unfinished basement right now and you want to convert it to a finished basement then you need a conversion permit which is not i mean it's twenty five cents a square foot it's half the price to convert something like that they only go for basements or if you want to advocate the same way yes yeah and you know like i said the d r v here in phase they they haven't increased the only feeds the only hearing things that increase were at the last amend and that was site plan review conditional use waiver posting so really the total cost for such players a hundred fifteen and i was i was doing some research there are other towns that actually have a multi step sketch planning process those are more like so early to burlington and things like that but we're fee are all over the map all over the state but i've tried to keep it pretty much on par with what a lot of other towns are doing or at least averaging and if we're higher for the most part i keep it the way it ok it's really difficult to do a comparison with other towns because it's just different regulations they just do things differently and you know i try to put a spreadsheet together because i thought it might help you understand where the fees are coming from and if you can you just  eloquently put it i screwed up i forgot something lower english settlement they proposed some of the proposals for their road and in the email i said that three of them might have the potential for some issues if you could look at those and pick one that we agree were they seat of a god this is for god one dear cross lane sugar maple lane piney grove lane these are all lanes fox hill lane and pine brick lane and the ones that i said we already have a deer run and we already have a fox frog we already have pine bro piney grove lane would be all right i hesitate to say that deer cross lane would be ok but that's kind of a judgement call and then a fox elaine i think you're just going to get too many people confused between  fox hill lane and pine broccoli so again it's all a judgment call because we sweet have dear we have sugar we have fox and we are behind we pine we don't party we don't have high name i think vermont community development association years ago i got it in my head it might be a good idea for us to be a part of it it seems like now they're actually starting to do more in terms of meetings and outreach when i first got those signed up it didn't seem like they were doing anything at all that we involved i'm running out of time and availability to attend these meetings so if you want to stay on i would really appreciate if one of you  take i'm going to the meetings which is once or twice a year really at the most  i think i think it's a good idea to look at the email you sent so it's a good idea but i you know i think it personally i think it might be a better idea for a larger community so the horse you write about how it's just my opinion yeah well that's fine really that was awful because apparently we appointed the select board appointed three or four people asked year and it was never updated anywhere so i had no clue so i was really out to poppin took her husband's place i'm thinking just do that but he was his term expires this year and she's been doing it instead of him i sent her an email asking her she would like to be appointed reappointed so that's the one we're playing on at the moment for conservation commission and i did get it from trevor squirrel and posted it on our website an advertisement to try to get more numbers so they're rushing to a point and the other thing with these committees that i've noticed here if it's ok to put forward and select board members handbook it indicates that any committee the slick board forms just fashion has to but she's also the health officer i have that next to us and that's this one actually i couldn't find i don't know if they have a form now for health officer position i found out is three years ago before and some of the information on here i don't know what it's asking for her education high school college other and professional degrees i sent her an e mail i haven't heard back yet so before you sign i do you do you and she did make a statement that the position really didn't have any job description and we kind of like to find out more about that but reading this letter there is a job description and they mention some other information changes to both kerry and sherry peggy has discussed last time and she's asking for you to let her know how you want that difference between the positions because it was it was a in the survivor last night