to the remaining funds are available for elevation of structures and they're all of a sudden structures in the special flood hazard area so these funds have a deadline date the application date of august fourth and the reason i ask you put on your agenda is because i am working on some properties in richmond that are looking at elevating their structures in the flood plain because their first floor elevation or their lowest level elevation which those two terms are used by two different agencies will use them both or two different divisions are below or act the base what elevation so that they are at risk of flooding in the future so i'm working with property owners and the reason in front of you is because you are the applicant in these applications just like the buy out jeff has been aware of what i've been working on claire rock your town planner has also been working with me  we've been trying to create a template and create templates of these applications for going forward for future potential elevation projects that are after the august fourth deadline date there is national second round in january but very limited funding maybe a million dollars in january whereas the pool right now is much larger with minimal applicants so this is the time to apply i have multiple properties in richmond and jonesville that are looking at elevating their structures it's it is at minimal cost to the town i am not sure if there is a two percent administrative cost aust associated with these grants that you're allowed to utilize but there is time that jeff and claire will have spent on the projects and that's the cost to the town it's not a cost like the b a removal probably from your grandparents it if anything is a better improvement to your community it also is a benefit to the property owner for not just reducing their risk of flooding damages but also reducing their potential flood insurance premiums we are going by the richmond regulations with the exception of there is a variance in the richmond regulations of the floodplain regulations specifically that we're talking about has a clause that says no met phil well that means if somebody interprets it they could say that you're not allowed to fill in foundations you're not allowed to put fill around a foundation to i offer the same purpose to be the most efficient way possible we would ask for them to use the variance as specified by the federal government that is adopted by our regulations or just plain waive the no calculation we think this is the best thing for the community is a federal program it's a state program and why would we not want to many gave future of what d m flood damages and have and interpretation be negative for these applications such as known f l for example i'm going to use the hughes property right next door because it's a prime perfect parcel to use it's a small postage stamp parcel that if you use a known that fell calculation they couldn't elevate their structure period because they have no other land to did the hole from where you're supposed to dig out the bill because no doubt filmy she got to dig out where you villain isn't property the argument for just will not impact negatively impact the fledgling it's a seventy five percent grant the other twenty five percent is the responsibility of the property owner at any point in time if the proper prior to construction beginning of the property owner decides they do not wish to participate in more maybe they're going to sell maybe they just don't have the funds they are allowed to opt out so they don't want something to think that because we're doing the application right now they have to do it  the other process is there's other funding available through other sources to possibly half part of the twenty five percent match the property owners if they were hit by irene bounded up to twenty thousand or so there's another application that i'm working on the property owners to possibly receive those funding i don't have to answer any questions i can't answer questions i can be done whatever you guys situation is i just thought it was very important for that meeting you all to realize that there are properties that are seeking to use this funding source and they need your help as the applicant to proceed i would prepare all the applications for the africans that have already contacted me i will be all balled in the process so it will be sign them all yes he signed the buyout and he can sign all of the applications that the town is not obligated to pursue the process if there is a problem with the application or a property owner wishes to not participate the town would want to back out if if it's the state saying we need additional information and we're able to provide it and i think we would provide it if their state is saying they declined that they deny the application they're saying now it doesn't qualify for some reason then again it's kno as the town for any obligated resources such be it the only situation that i would say that would involve the town and it might it's going to be an application by application basis for examples i'm going to keep going to the fuses because y'all can picture it like the neighbors across the road all have higher first floor elevations you can see the slope up there their lawns george gifford on the other side of them also has a higher elevation so the best case scenario for elevating that structure is  basically pick it off its foundation move it over set it on the borderline between the town parcel and their parcel so some of the home would actually be sitting on the town's land temporarily or the new found foundation is is poor and then the home put back over that's the to change the footprint because we have to have us but you're a lot of the twenty five percent increase in square footage in a floodplain you have to bring in silly woman stares focus so you are talking about changing the book print but sorry it's still in it like the hughes property their property is one hundred percent in the special flood has a very that's the flood plain so the regulations apply for the whole parcel the floodplain regulations are allowed to footprint up to twenty five percent per year so this is strictly not going to probably be twenty five percent of the square footage extended out it's going to be a utility room for furnace hot water heater and if anybody does their laundry on on a daily basis but i think i'm going to go for the time richmond we will have lake i think we're looking sixty six to eight structures and in the mobile home park will you know it doesn't mobile homes so we're talking about potentially up to twenty applications for just the town of it becomes the town's bid process on an r p has to be put on the town so the funding trickles through the town the town has to make sure that because it's federal forms the town has to make sure that the projects are being completed as per what's been  in the details we're going to try to get the best best bang for the buck for property owners and i don't think if you have all twenty properties being built by the same person it's going to be completed in the same season that would be a good idea that there are limited h monsour the fact that we might be competing with twenty other projects moving houses we're going to and we're going to try to package it the best way to get somebody who wants to do the job and boom like dominoes mar to comply which is up to the eligibility of thirty thousand dollars only this funding is up to seventy five percent of one hundred to a matter of fifty thousand dollars to seventy five percent can be one hundred fifty thousand dollars per project i see  the now i don't think anybody i don't think everybody who might be interested is in my on my list ok is there anything we can do to help make sure that people that might be eligible are aware only only if you're willing to dedicate twenty four seven till august fourth to get the application down after that after this poor act let's call it this first round applications at the richmond level goes through if they get approved then i definitely think you should do reach out for a second round applications and since we'll have a template then clerical take over potentially going to speak for her book and potentially take over the process and oversee it but it's more legwork out of the office then and meeting with the surveyors the contractors the house members and the property owners so and that's not a hundred percent of the process done yet so we know that convinced that the scope of our arguments was going to be much more limited than what we intended and there was a lot of back and forth between the attorneys hearing officer over what it was we were going to be allowed to our arguments really centered on the fact that the law weil's the public service order to give substantial deference to our planes and but the law doesn't differently really wanted to learn everything about the bylaws to say they're exempt we don't have to comply with them they don't matter if you say anything but we said no the the all but what the law does it  there that we objected because of those reasons that was a significant issue really wasn't necessarily a hearing directly on the application it was rather you know defending our own standards so what that comes is done along with this application to try to make the community satisfied i think we can really hear from people what what their thoughts on whether any of these applications now where we have something approaching or at least the process of a consensus about placement between the butter's and the proposed site it's a good question which i don't know the answer to where we have a stake in fact we have a successful tool but we have projects that actually are controversial in the community and then we but but we in the name of consistency apply  that to tears because it was successful in the first project so what's and i mean do we get ourselves in the end of problems if we apply where there where it is controversial and don't where it's not even if that's not being consistent with the template i think you would i think you can apply your standards to various degrees based on and i feel appropriate and i think you know for either go in the beginning and spend like you said defend our rules and regulations and part of that is you know with the new application for cochran road i'm not you know i mean so we haven't seen a lot of occasion so you couldn't even say if it falls within the bounds of our regulations or right it's down the hill so it's not one hundred forty feet so whether or not it's within twenty feet of the average tree cover is it's a question you know the answer to where it appears to me that that is really or may not have approved i think that there's a whole i don't i'm not sure that there's a disadvantage to not objecting to the i'm saying if we exercise her discretion in saying that this f deposition suggestions so the legislature updated the two forty eight regulations during the last session one of the things that they did was require public service work provide definitions for the terms substantial deference and good cause they used those definition they use there's terms in the law of the state the public service these terms of their undefined are sort of applied at the will of the public service i'm not saying it to be insulting but really they can change the strength of those terms as they see fit  i don't know that they are everybody is that attorneys i don't know that people have a lot of experience with public service for these definitions so like my suggestions was substantial deference deliberations to determine the public good challenge will be to the highest extent practicable local community standards such as set forth and adopted play in the bible so when the my my intent with  the federal requirements for permit ing and i want to make sure that what we're proposing is going to meet the federal requirements for permanent was the barrier example very city example where they made proposed changes that they had to go through fim and i'm getting discretionary funding all of this is a draft that my sister carol meter came up with that might help resolve some of the charitable contributions issue it includes sort of rather frequently asked questions in the beginning and then it goes down to an example or a draft application and this is really designed to put in place a process where charitable organizations would have an application time frame be able to state their case how much money they wanted and can put it in writing paper i would agree eric in reading through this i couldn't there's nothing stood out in me that was like there's something substantially missing or without that's too much i thought that there were good questions you know  d i think we need to answer for ourselves you know like how much are we going to ward and those are questions that we're not going to answer tonight with this policy but i think it would be a good idea if we established how much of it so that the  what kind of part that they were looking at and i also think it's important as we look towards our budget cycle is that is there are some things that are in appropriation that my opinion should be in appropriations because there are things that we are contract surely obligated to pay and that needs to be under reagan administration or some other form because because it is in the appearance that we're just giving money away to some of these organizations and especially if we establish a policy for it well why does one entity get tens of thousands of dollars and another gets four hundred when when that person that gets the tens of thousands we have a contract with them so what i the only thing i would like i don't want to do this yet and only so we can take the next two weeks i mean if anyone has any thing else they'd like to see on that questionnaire that will go out to organizations previously worked with us o been doing it for a while so that it's sort of a snowball effect between the state united way and some funding you know i can look at some of what are what are grants at like risk assessment type stuff i think that that would be appropriate to apply to some of these  mean i'm not talking about making a film twenty page application is not what it is here but hey i agree that there may be some more concise questions that we can ask to actually get a better answer so i think some time to review this would be  a policy policy for a long time this is this is something that's really going to affect some of these organizations and also is is this making contributions of people's tax dollars  u think there's really quick movement for any kind of traffic pattern that might exit from the what's down form access that goes through there's probably not going to be a lot process the real real important part is the nearest that goes through an identified is what we intend to purchase in the next five years and if you've got time to review it you can see  ocially everything that we did last year is on a list i mean ten year old these four were some there might be some purchases of some things that you're not of others for example the i believe we do have a highway truck and it might be purchased this year or we're actually next year's fiscal year sixteen we're talking about and there are some things that are  really not categorized such as the waters who are things that really are and are on an open schedule that we will have to firm up as time goes on but you might have your own ideas of projects we need to do things that we should hold off on we could rearrange the schedules and things push things off i'll be asking the department heads to submit thoughts on  economic development there was some discussion at the last meeting about putting together a summit or getting the economic growth t d involved in trying to jumpstart a way to knowledge ever so now this is how a lot of accumulation evolves you're presented with a problem i think we should consider what we might do about it we're certainly not the only legal entity in the united certainly by the end of the year so the town now the  to me it never happens to me three ice berg road the owners built sugar house and access from the highway from burger row to the sugar house both without permits they've requested  approval of the access because one reports there is very poor very poor site he's plot sight lines at the access he suggested to you for traffic foot traffic only  your side plus you're pointed up in an angle so you can't really see what's crackling from your vehicle when you come out he feels it's very dangerous so the challenge is but as i read this the all the access routes washed out presumably to different location so there's a stream off i'm sure this is going towards there's a stream down there they used to this is fairly straightforward they're just a stalling gas it's we have no objection to this one ok and this is there is just somebody who did not have it installed before and now they're going back because they went through that right there this happens fairly often we've actually got i think for the work that are pending so ghastly is there there's a structure right yeah there's a bunch of work on that screen a bunch of houses but not every house so i think a lot of houses ar percentage of i count that are eligible to receive gas and in community service for my gas as you might expect burlington is fairly high and about eighty nine percent richmond was below fifty percent snow so this is going to be an ongoing thing and according to this they're saying no impact to street or sidewalk so it sounds like it's all on well there they can bore under the bridge they're doing they're bike industries in two hundred seventy thousand dollars their bid was sixty two dollars and ninety cents a ton that's the lowest it's been since i've been here but it's good so get an extra ten feet obviously predate any kind of regulations but certain trees are planted in the right of way they were shaped focuses and joined in the public i know they're not the responsibility of home for such sort of what the legal description would be here today so the town has several of these in the building you know don't have too many trees in other places but we've claimed these large old trees a lot of them is down trees and we would be responsible for their maintenance or upkeep if they fell from be liable for damages but in this case it's historic tribute to inventory and