assets problem circulation patterns and then kind of coming together to kind of see what what is a priority for raphael and how do we see rock metal ten years because this is about a master plan without further ado i'm going to used to be called called the quasi common parts of the outer work within that and it had so many rocks that it wasn't good for cultivation head it was too wet to develop on but it it's basically the driveway does not do justice to the beautiful area beyond in addition to the falling away grid awkward circulation patterns and the poor definition of edges there is widespread littering vandalism that contributed to the informal trail for it from from that area so it might not be informal for very much longer but part of our goal is to conduct a trail now is to see this way towards the highest point on the site and it's this is kind of unique because it's a different ecosystem than the rest of rock metal and we want  concrete out and there are curious little mini leftovers of foundations that are creating really steep drops but it's it's mostly  and that being it the orders of all of this and the educational center for all teachers so even though the barn is just a token future the far since a nice leases addition to there may be approached from that parking lot without having a distro more land at the barn keeping the barn in its natural state and i'm very impressed with what you do here and i want you to know that a number of us will probably be trying to educate people in the future with drawings of the nature of what you have here so that people in the future will know how the trails connect know how wildlife flows of different seasons and so forth and so most concerning conflicts and that we're going to ask each team to come up with come to consensus and agree on to the two aspects to all of the humans as a team and once you do we didn't like so that was the first one and then the second one came up with was the trigger condition on some of the trails a lot of sort of routes and places where people can you know paying attention  that it should be a twenty or a fifty year a vision but who creates a vision i think a lot of the problems come from the fact that there isn't a stated vision that is men worked on created and visions or are works in progress we all know organizations but written vision so that when somebody says they want to come and put a park a lot of cars there for an event for example we have a vision statement that is our map that says that's not in line with our vision and also making decisions about dogs and and the passive sorts of recreational anything it all relates to whatever vision the community comes up with so my feeling about it has been i used to think well why doesn't the conservation commission creative vision but i've been told that the commission as a regulatory body primarily and in a long conversation with roger coleman that we didn't have an a body in this town to have oversight over our open spaces so other towns like arlington for example has an open space committee that is a number all organization over all the open spaces in town so you have a body duking it out you know the wreck fields in the parks department and the ball fields and the nature is that that we you know what if we had something like an open space committee or a friends of rock meadow that was ongoing that could maintain race money do whatever's needed create a vision that that you know we ha way to manage the meadow on a long term basis and then we come in all of those things in town to be truthful what we've asked them to do is try to focus and give us a vision that that is what we're missing so we're going to have a written i'm one of the people who should know more about rockefeller personally as the conservation commission or one of the things that i think is something to keep in mind is being able to share this with the communit what's fair would go a long way toward tenets of this project i think and as you guys progress in your work if think that we're going to learn a lot which can indeed form local poets and of virtually all of the sites he mentioned as our sites where we stop and read local poets are relevant poets and if anybody would be interested in the next three seasons walk