going forward to realize that vision also to help you respond to changing circumstances going forward as best as they can be determined much like  vision which was done by the city council a few years ago and refined by planning commission to really address where the city would like to go  writing of other things so we did that first step of that yesterday and one of the planning advisory committee at the regional and commission and there was a comment  it was just really great to hear that because that's you know really the intent to these plans and we often don't quite get their style and i think it's this vision statement and the way the plan lays out that really they want to go is because these are all of the things that i mean this is one man has to have and it based on state exactly and so this is major it is basically showing all their arguments down the left hand side and the organization of your plan like this in the appendix is that one of the items on that list is use of resources that's very specific to extraction resources like sandy gravel pits that while there living in a brand new place without the help at all is that it would not have any developer would use these are very different takes largely because of the dams and largely because of your existing development that you have already in this plan is the fact that we have the first problem in a campaign oscars makes its way into the lake from all kinds of different and resources aquaculture all uses being biggest contributor to that big effort to look at energy planning much more stuff than we have in the past the real reason why this started it's because we've seen lots of solar projects and wind projects in the state necessarily feeling like their opinions were being considered and permitting those projects all of those projects are permitted at the state level of the public utility their goal is to have more development go up in the city because that's the most likely place to go so one driver one developer wants to put solar panels on their roof but there's you don't want to see developed essentially i think that we have made the case in the plan to try to clarify this and make it super clear that that is not the intent of the constraints to all the about and the reason for that in the whole program is that the state didn't want in this county saying we are amount of ok with ninety percent of our the right but i guess what i'm saying is is not having this because we think somebody who doesn't want property developers is not the likelihood of that higher than the benefit you would get havingness which so considering that most of the more open spaces that you have in the city are actually city hall and it's concerns that we're showing we use lou these types of mass of these types of resources so showing a picture that may not be accurate for what's actually going on around the city and having that be used for something it's not intend yeah though to make the point and it may be too much work late if you just have this map using like a good google satellite image instead and then just put the lack of translucent color over the area and then it would probably  where we just have to go digging to figure out what the colors are because it's not just that they're right and we have the other potential and it can refer back over to the regional plan is that and our online maps you can open the is essentially and it shows you what everything is get them all in this sort of for the whole thing itself is also going to follow this on style it's not going to be waiting hour like this but is going to commission foreign cars drive so next friday the twenty first of december but there still is an opportunity because we have to approve it or recommend you to give us your forwarded to the city council and they will go through their own public hearing process where they can take comments as well yes i think it was and it's at that stage it essentially it is the city council documents and they can make edits they can make substantial changes that they want to if they do that comes back to the planning commission only for acknowledging essentially making sure that it's all technical writers however if there are substantial changes at the city council level that means they will so yeah so this map is probably acting in reality a little bit more like an existing land use regional autonomy or something like that is accommodated forward which is sort of the language that we landed on or where you might want to go with these three cases so we could since the first time that this was introduced has always made me kind of nervous about about those areas that they would some day be developed and i don't know if that's you know i mean that was just my first impression of it so maybe the other people that haven't been following this whole conversation might feel the same way when they see this in the papers like we want to have industrial commercial i'm going to do it because it's weapons and whatnot but there we the city has that had a conversation about the future use of whatever might be developable in there whether it's for change it to cheryl and develop and develop over land or something that indicates that it will never be anything and what it well i think that concept is really tied up in what's app is talking about these are not going to be  sometimes a city might walk in the future so i would want to i would want to go so far to say they're going to be completely out developed and i think i think we can be clear that the city those lines look so different colors and different you know they look different in different colors so they're not all unified and i just wonder if they were all black then they would all feel girl the same you know and i don't know if that was because like castle man that doesn't look going to me it just looks pretty good to me doesn't look like it has clean lines acting as part of my not reading it right to say like we need to have this conversation right now and i don't know maybe we want that maybe we don't but i mean i think it makes people for has been maybe we don't know what the future holds i mean we know there are parks now we have no other conversation happening publicly at the moment about anything else do we want to leave room for that conversation or do we want to say like hey this is an issue that we need to talk about right now  properties but they still have to go they still in order for anyone to do anything we still have to go through the process they have to acquire from the city so there's a whole bunch of marks then anybody else looking at this this map anybody that picks this up this this plan looks at this and says oh that's an industrial area that's an industrial area that's a commercial area there's no a conflict area or something that's conflicting and you don't have the say part because there are so different but you just highlight an area that saying he needs to be determined it's a sort of a note on the planets not a zone i mean it's you know what i mean