number one in ordnance adopting the proposed operating capital budget for two thousand and thirteen including the general fund water farnsworth bond and golf  i've spoken with members of the community mccloy's the city hall everybody who has an opinion you know i think we both do but i hope that everybody through that accumulated a large list of all say ideas suggestions proposals and things that we can do to modify but into a creek or decrease the tax increase as proposed and  also maintain central services of the city provide what i have done is trying to compile a list that contains many of the many of the issues concerns everybody is that it doesn't give everyone everything they want things are conflicting but it's a what i feel is a reasonable compromise at the starting point for all of us to so there was personal interest around seven hundred a little over seven hundred thousand dollars that i felt was over over budgeted in the proposed budget and a lot of that has to do with do we were place you know certain so there's some areas in there some of the typical things that you would see in a budget discussion like copy or expenses and postage and we have an increase in some of our post expenses a significant increase from what we were before but we're think you will some money out of this well there were some other areas where although i felt you know maybe a more aggressive approach would be to will eliminate some of the expenses  where those numbers come in and so what i felt was a good compromise and i think some of the people are in agreement with that you both will find out they are is instead of leading them of the budget cases if the money doesn't get spent it could be applied in other areas where we're kind of pulling it out separately and if it's needed well we could come back to take a look at it and then kind of release that money back to the fun if we know over the last several years you know we've spent five to seven hundred thousand dollars or so in dental insurance for employees but we have a little over a billion dollars budgeted and i'm fairly confiden one of the things that was a paper recently was a public take the commissioner we just point i don't think there is support for eliminating a host city commissioner and so that focuses but there's a point i think i'm proposing and i think of positions in the budget where people were getting salary increases a lot of people in the city don't work very hard i feel it in general across the board everyone deserves a raise every year we do a good job but unfortunately push comes down to property tax right now with the proposed budget had a tax increase i think a four point one this from four point one eight this these comfortable with that i think more of it should be moved from those holding accounts to tax reduction but that's where the discussion is at this point so f kind of presented this data in this this is not me this is information that i've gathered from talking to every single member of the council and that everybody else as well so it's a huge lot of after trying to put together something for everyone if there's something that you want adding twenty percent to that number and we're still left even adding twenty percent to that number realistically and the theory i think very responsible way that twenty percent increase we're still left with that two hundred thousand dollars or so on one of my suggestions would be to move that into into the tax reductions i believe i mean i guess my feeling too is that they give the senior year to kind of we've got that money there if we need it and if we don't need it then we know for next year we know that if you take the three hundred we don't know that for sure and that's another factor we have to take into consideration as well because if we don't have the revenue coming and going to be an issue of force as well but i'm certainly you know willing to work on this and to get that reduction down to the one point nine so we're looking at another