again everybody welcome to another edition of the award winning time out for sports talk here at the belmont media center where for a very long time we continue to beat a month's first of only live all sports talk show i am lonely hours it is a wednesday november the fourteenth two thousand and eighteen we're going to be here live for the next sixty minutes taking your phone calls as we like to do once a month if you're watching us on wednesday november the fourteenth give us a call our number six one seven four eight four two four four three would love to hear from you're a fan of social media you like to go out there we have some social media pages you can become a fan by searching time out for sports talk on facebook and our twitter handle is at c n n you can see the at the bottom of your screen t o s t n o v one for the show date tonight and you contribute that way to will try to check that later assuming my phone is fully charged tonight in that i can actually pull up my twitter account on my phone anyway first of all i have to mention as we well let's let's introduce our rob dally who is here and you're probably wondering where in the world is how he mccloughan yes that he back here so yes where in the world is how we mcclellan that's a that's a new p sports t v jeremy reserve our excellent producer here doing a great job and you were and we are going to talk about my watertown football in a moment as you can see we've got our fighting logos up there but i want to actually can gradually all of the longtime head coach paul graham also a big fan of the timeout for sports talk show we've had we've had paulo that coach graham here in studio and he's been coaching the team twenty six years which is almost as long as time outs but on the airwaves they that means i was probably about ten years old back then yeah i'm ten years although yeah i don't quote your name i mean he's built the machine in the women's soccer program and you know even better you know when i was when i was part of the athletic program that he was a powerhouse and he's been able to string that out really across generations now we were talking about before the show he's probably coach kids of some of his x players so you know he's just i was going to say is lindsay knowles daughter played i still remember the they beat number ten salem of eleven nothing in there of that was their first round game it got them in the d two north quarters but then they lost this rings a bell to me they ended up losing to concede winchester it feels like winchester has been a rival of coach grabs for twenty six years because i remember when i was talking to him back then winchester was the team to beat in girls soccer and winchester is always been a powerhouse in both men's and women's soccer sell not too not too surprising there an old marotta rival there right there knocking and they were the number three seed and they actually made it all the way to the it was the d yeah the d one central eastern finals or the semifinals they had beaten boston latin school in north quincy and then lost to the top seed new north and straight seven seed and also a very big story in field hockey breaking news of sorts actually happened yesterday but this is big news and it kind of ties into what we're about to talk about watertown field hockey i think everybody knows like you know you talk about your your high school jug snapping a forty nine game postseason when streak so they had won forty nine playoff games in a row not to mention some of the regular season six they've compiled over the years yeah i don't hear that and making that one they've won the state championship every right i mean that's that's that's quite the achievement i'm sure the dennis yarmouth team that's a that's a feather in their capital they'll never forget about you know that's just you know walk towns program i think we've talked about every year there you know they just keep bringing those to you they start those kids off  both of the the logos back up there we can get there we go it's right the thanksgiving showdown coming up depending on whose records you go by this is the ninety seventh meeting between belmont and watertown and it will be at harris field the game at harrah's field ten am i think i've seen ten fifteen places to let's just play it safe make sure there for ten o'clock tick up good belmont will try to do something they have not done since two thousand and eleven and that is beat watertown on thanksgiving job producing a lot of the football games as we'll try to get it but you know one of things i mentioned off the top and mentioned all the fall teams qualified for their postseason tournaments so did the month football they made some history this year qualifying for the in the  north section of the m i a football playoffs and this structure is only been in place since i think two thousand and thirteen and this is the first time belmont has qualified for a post season play with the the point system that they have in the podcast i do yes if you haven't checked it out i'll do some cross promotion t s t todd katz check it out all throughout the belmont football season we talk every week with coach q we got a big thanksgiving special coming up and just like we've done in years past we're going to team captains here couple of times about right but really the guy who deserves the credits jeremy because he goes out he actually shot a lot of the tournament footage i was following volleyball team with their or their run with that we were just talking about i know we i think shot couple of girls soccer or a tournament games as well so and it was with all the football so he's been very busy this fall and you know as i said to go and it's a great thing i mean just think about from the days when you were doing belmont high games in the ninety's or when i was after that game a if you go check it out again belmont media dot org go to the pod cast change in teaching yes also you can get the sound cloud app it's free on your phone you can get it matter what kind of phone you have unless it's a flip phone in which case you probably  their their two man backfield this year bell bot marauders with their their current four and six record on the left is number three rick joseph and on the right is number two killian o'connell they're both seniors so the thanksgiving day game against watertown will be their final high i've had a pleasure a call in the games and you know these two guys kind of like in the mold of a lot of great belmont running backs over the years these guys get in the open field it's just fun watching them out run all the defenders yeah and i think if you if you really look at the team this year i didn't ever been able to beat or even stay competitive with part and they were they were really competitive in all their games even in the playoffs you know fifty to thirty five obviously a shootout but still you take it you were able to put points on the board you take that as a competitive game so  aggro down at big at halftime and showed a lot of fight coming back as they did i'm glad you brought up the running game because that's actually even though we didn't broadcast the game ends up going to watch it doing we'll i do i try to do a little scouting so at least i go into my weekly talks with the coach a kind of prepared is  what i might talk to him about that they were down twenty one three at reading in the second quarter fought all the way back took the lead before finally losing that game late but that they showed a lot of heart of this year and you'd like that you like seeing that your team so you know competitive you know you can you're getting some good wins on their evil to make the playoffs you take that and you sort of snowball it now you're in a situation where you're going up against the watertown team a large town team that has had your number for the last six years you since their last win so yeah i know which was their last and capped off a seven game winning streak against watertown so it's time to shift the tide back into the direction of belmont yeah i would definitely agree with all that yeah it is interesting like you say i think you know you look at the way the two teams match up the show they both come in with forty six records and fact here's another here's some here's a great picture from the two thousand and fourteen game actually this is the first ever think this will be my third thanksgiving day game i'm going to get to call and i'm very pleased to do that my first was on the field but no i mean the is the two teams do match up very well this year like you said rob interesting the watertown started one in six they didn't qualify for postseason play they went through the non plastic edge with three straight non league wins there's actually they went winless in the league this year and technically under the new middlesex league rules belmont watertown even though they both play in the middle sexually because they play in opposite divisions it is not technically a league game that won't count ball get or league ball right it doesn't count towards their meg record but they still play every thanksgiving they keep the tradition you know and that was one of the things i know they were worried about when they went to this new playoff system in and when the middle sexually expanded to twelve teams they went to the two divisions there was some concern that some of these teams are playing an opposite of it and so even though technically it's not a league game at least they still get to play every thanksgiving and yeah i mean this this is probably going to be the best chance the belmont had in the coach young human era to be able to finally snapped this this losing streak to watertown i mean it's been a long six years you know and you know going here and you know and i don't know what the the mentality is around the student body nowadays but when you were a kid growing up in belmont you were playing football like yourself point right i always thought i cross i circle two thousand and one belmont twenty six watertown six that was our first win of the season that year and you know we had that we had a decent year to go fully as we had wanted to but you know you get to play in that game against watertown that's a super bowl and back then there weren't any playoffs you had to win the league to get to play in the super bowl and that was that was your only opportunity so your rivalry game was your championship game and you know i don't know if the kids nowadays i would hope they still have the same mentality and ashen for that game but that's what you that's you play football in belmont fours to play against watertown and to be watered down and that's that should be motivation enough no matter how your season goes to get out there and play your best game that day that's so interesting you mention that two thousand and one team that you played on because that's he had won four games going into that game and they won their fifth just like this year's belmont team has won four games and hopefully so i'm going to take this is a good sign that you're  yeah it'll definitely be fun like sam looking forward to call in the game again i'm kind honored to be part of that simply by third thanksgiving day broadcasting that's it's fun to do and you know the stands are packed like you said and it sounds like the weather is going to be hopefully think it was one of those oh yeah they're the year two before it was freezing so we got lucky and in year yeah so far the two i've worked it's been cold it looks like i'm going to go three for three and that's the part that's how it goes yeah but that that picture along with jared edwards mike del holmes samhsa gary and jake parsons all senior captains were hoping to have all of them join us as it's become kind of a thanksgiving tradition where you know we talk with coach q every week during the season  to speaking of victories and victory parades it's been a little while since we've been here on the airwaves and you know since the duck boats just strolled through town once again through the streets of boston for it's been too long since we've had a victory parade in th my life it was it was heartbreaking the playoffs or just being at the the bottom of the basement every year that was really that was really the red sox i grew up with now kids don't even know that the red sox were you know what the tampa bay were maybe not the raises me like the milwaukee brewers you know they were they were cellar dwellers and you know they own and they let us down all the time but now you know you they win their fourth world series and it was it was quite the playoff run and i mean i i can't say that i was fully on board with this red sox team through the season i think the last couple of seasons maybe it kept me in sort of a sour tone about this team and i wasn't a full believer going through the season with the bullpen and just sort of the the whole pitching in general but the way it came together in the playoffs it was absolutely it was just out it was captivating and it was just amazing to see that team come together and turn it around especially against the competition they had to go through maybe not even the dodgers in the world series but to go from the yankees to the powerhouse houston astros and then to the dodgers who were coming off a world series appearance last year themselves and going seven games and they basically steamrolled all three of those competitors which was just the it was just amazing turn of events i thought the sox had a talk to get the world series by i thought it was going to be a lot of six and seven game series and they basically turned the tables on it yeah i mean you know it is incredible postseason run thirty eleven and three in fact the red sox this year if you count their spring training schedule they played a total of two hundred seven games obviously some of those like the spring training games didn't count boston college ne well those technically are in the i don't think they of i think college games don't count in the spring training standings but when they play other major league teams those actually count as spring training standings the red sox had the best spring training record of any team in baseball this year twenty two and nine then they had the best record in the regular season in one hundred  another major league opponent there were one hundred forty one in sixty six a six eighty one winning percentage that is just unbelievable and like you mentioned the gauntlet they had to run through the hundred when yankees the one hundred three win astros and then even the dodgers who were one of the best teams in the national league this year with over ninety wins and the fact that they were able to dispose of them all very easily again the they lost just one game in each round of the playoffs and you know you could argue if you want to stack this team against the zero four team zero seven and two thousand and thirteen i mean this might be the best team of the of the bunch at least as far as just how they day took care of business well in the middle the thing that i look at when i look at the state that they you know the past red know they had j d martinez muki betts chris sale but those players didn't really have the best post seasons to lead your team whereas in the past the red sox relied heavily on you know david ortiz to come up with that big home or pedro martinez to come out you know and pitch a tough game you know this team had to really sort of put it together and players that weren't the big money high impact players you know really stepped up someone like you know n there so i guess the i sort of count that there too but you know the lineup it was somebody different was steve pearce you know a last minute acquisition a sort of a bench guy for his career comes in and he's you know your star so they are good contributions from all over the but to do it i didn't want to do that on screen so now we have steve pearce up why don't we take a shot of world series m v p steve pearce as it was pointed out i think somewhere i read this after the red sox won the world series because you brought up the name david ortiz the red sox first world series in a you know you brought up all the guys who did perform in the post season obviously there was there was steve pierce and there was david price because another picture price given a little bit of attitude this was him during that clinching game where he says i hold all the cards now you can't say anything about me houston started i know he didn't right exactly but then yeah then the clinching game five clincher against houston getting the win and then picking up a pair of wins i mean you could've made a strong case a price for world series m v p and i guess it was pretty close if a couple of votes a gone in another direction price might have gotten there or he and pierce might have split it but it was they were both very deserving for sure i mean it was you know it was it was just amazing to see how everyone you know everyone stepped up you would start his game had drawn hundred pitches and then he'd be in the bullpen warming up the next day and that's something you never you never really sino pater had that game in cleveland where he came back came out of the bullpen so many years ago now and you'd see that pro you know players here and there tim wakefield did a lot you'd see it but it seemed like every player on the roster you know did a little at you know every starting pitcher came out of the bullpen to pitch al the bullpen or you know of all the comes out of the bullpen in the extra inning games and he throws a regular game he throws a hundred pictures well we have the picture of all the obviously you know idly enough he's going to be remembered most for this this game three the only world series game the red sox lost but it took the dodgers eighteen innings to beat the red sox that a game you know the only game they were when they had a win in eighteen innings and of all the obvious is ends up the losing pitcher sadly you know he gives up the game winning homerun to max muncie there but but you're right i mean he pitches that we had what ninety seven pitches over six innings in that you know basically to save the rest of the pitching staff a guy that's had tommy john surgery and twice and in a day where you know ok you gotta you know that the dodgers were protecting pitchers arms in the world series like all right how do you protect someone's arm in the world series when this is what you play for you might never get that opportunity again but we got to protect this guy's arm you never know the red sox you know the pitcher stepped up they threw a lot of pitches and they were it was just it was just an outstanding effort by the team as yeah i mean i think one of the things we're talking about to rob throughout the you know the last couple of months see we kept kind of wondering well how was the reds that you brought up the bullpen how was the bullpen going to do it for the red sox we had all these questions that yes they want to underneath regular season games but we're still wondering well who's going to pitch the eighth inning you know that bridge to create kimbrel and you know alex cora kind of went into the bag of tricks that he remember last year when he was a bench coach for houston when they employed some of their starting bullpen was not pitching well and all the sudden they caught fire in the in the playoffs and they were able to ride that all the way through the world series which was just amazing because you see in the last couple years you know the cleveland indians the chicago cubs the houston astros last year all really had strong bullpens the red sox probably had one of the weakest bullpens going in the into the postseason last couple years and they just all their big men that they were relying on off just dug in and caught fire and i think that was a really a whole story but again you know the astros did a little bit of this last year with you know again in cora b of their bench coach last year you had lance mccullers you had charlie morton they they started games but then they also popped into the bullpen and so that's how cora remedied the problem he said ok you know on your bullpen day we're you know you're going to be after you make your start you're going to be the designated eighth inning pitcher tonight is you know but then also some relievers got hot during the postseason like joe kelly we got a picture of him here you know certainly he was he gets a pitch quite a bit in the the world series and you know i don't know where that was for the last like four months of the regular season but you know he got hot just in the nick of time maybe also realized hey i'm going to be a free agent to make some money yeah  time to start pitching really well and you know what do you know i'm going to be a free agent now you know let those contracts just come rolling in but yeah i mean they just you know they would they got the production from a lot of unexpected sources but i guess you can always say that about a lot of champions you know the game three that happened in extra innings the red sox reeling he goes into the stands as a result the dodger base runner is able to advance a base and then he came around to score on that one kinzler had problems fielding the ball you know in the middle of the feel you know in the infield year's game one and then mitch moreland in game three both were huge for different reasons i mean the newness shot in game one put the game away and then the one in game three game four more lin hit the three run homer when they were down for nothing in that i mean you know just going back to that world series again you know i'm sure you know you just first i want there's a few couple things i have to mention i've said this before but john smoltz and joe buck i know there's a lot of folks that are big joe buck fans and i'm not bad ball hitter and lo and behold as the words are coming out of wilson's mouth lho went inside and news just got in on it and just slammed it into the monster jesse that's a baseball guy that's done his homework right there that's that's an old pitcher who used to light it up right there y postseason they were relentless and they were resilient and i mean the way they were able to bounce back you know most teams you lose an eighteen inning game like that and you blow out your whole pay longstaffe and then you're behind four to nothing in the next in the next the next and they weren't you thinking due to i was text bats nowadays you know and i'm not even that old but you know even when i'm a kid when i was a kid the game of baseball is in the last ten years it's changed so much i mean i think at some point the playoffs they were talking about you know the game where pedro martinez said i'm going to call the yankees my daddy oh yes he couldn't compete against them for that game he put seven innings in that in that game where he admitted that nowadays if you get a if you've got a starting pitcher through five innings you're like hey this is great we're going to start a three five inning so just the not that's not how you would baseline body your dad this policy is and by the way because i think there was one of the series it was either wrestling might have been another series but they were top of the contact play and i think i think that someone scored a run because they ran on contact as th lead a couple times where they did it they were aggressive and it didn't work out so it still could play but that game was still the most amazing when the most amazing baseball games i've ever seen because it lasted so long even though kaur mismanage that game the way of all the pitch  know it's why you bring up the whole bunting the i mean the red sox with the way that line up you know because cora kind of went all in and used the balls pinch hitters early you know at the end of the idea and they were playing with a shoestring line i mean you know if you were that would on spring training line  says and i call that the verbal graphic but it works yeah works the same way after that but you could tell that he was after that game the next day and i think alex course said he had three or four pictures come in his office saying give me the ball the day mosul's pitchers pitch the day before and of all the i believe being came back and said if you need me today i'm ready to go so you know that's a lot about this team that they were willing to step up no matter the circumstance it also says an awful lot about alex one of the shortest free speaking of times of games i mean boy i mean if baseball games ran like the red sox victory parade i mean they'd all they'd all be done in like ninety minutes it went to the shortest of the victory and every minute tune in more but you know cora really was i mean the only real difference is t ways doesn't that make j d the most valuable guy because you know he had a great year and he made everyone else in the lineup that much better rate you know raising new guy mean again if i had a vote i'd throw it g d s way but you know i don't have a problem move giving it either they were missing that they were missing that p far removed from his playing days so you know a little bit of the younger coach could connect with still connect with you know the players knew how to bring them together brought a different mentality to that locker room then of previous years and it worked i think you know what john failed came in and rally that team to win back in thirteen he would he was what was needed after bobby valentine but but his act to grow still after a while and corey was sort of what this this younger team needed to of all these probably did he's probably looking for yeah well you know he's he's due for a big payday too sure this offseason but you know again the fact that these pictures all went in it's a chorus offices that i want the ball i mean you know they wanted to play for this manager i mean that's it i mean you know you talk about course great communication skills and you know his intelligence knowledge of the game but just the fact that these players were all in a do anything for i mean that's how i get a championship team i have to kind of work right gather the players to have to want to play for the manager not just for themselves and you know and you know like you said you know there are a lot of the big stars on this red sox team this year like that said martinez really didn't do very much you know in the postseason or maybe in the world series but you know in the end you know everyone else on the team contributed it was just you know as you say it was a it was a fun story this year and you know i don't know what the future's going to hold for this team but i still are you know i would still make a case it's kind of a small championship window here especially after next season when i got chris sale and rick become free agents i mean this and you know you're even losing guys like crikey more let's do a quick run down i don't want to get to some other stuff but you know of the guys as far as importance goes for your free agents i mean probably to me the top guys would have to be  bullpen guys but now it seems like they come in abundance nowadays and you find that guy you know use him for one or two years and then you let him go i mean look at the last four red sox world series they've had a different closer in every in every world could not name all those other three things but i don't know if i can either but i think his hour was one of them but so i think closer now days are a dime a dozen or you can take a starter and turn him into a closer so it's not as big a it's not as important as it was maybe in the mariano rivera day era type so you can work there and i think it's a position where you don't need to pay a lot of money at least to start on a guy so i think he some them you're not going to see in the red sox uniform but i think of all the as a guy i'd love to see back i mean you know his arm is suspect he only has the injury history but he threw everything on the line or you could argue we had to tommy john surgery he's thrown over a hundred miles an hour now maybe the surgeries he's got a great arm power pitching is the way in baseball nowadays you need those guys that can hit the tributes and you know in that eighteen inning game in the last inning he was still hitting ninety eight on the radar gun and that last inning when  changes and in the closer in that position that just is not worth it close unless unless you have a rubber arm like a mariano rivera who comes around once in a lifetime clothes have a very short life span because you're trying every day you think you know he's someone who's at the end of his clothes life now is that not mean you know maybe a lower market team is going to go out there and throw down and there are a lot of money adam that's probably going to happen but i don't think it's worth it for it's you know try and that has a couple minutes talking about the patriots but you know that you know the truth is this is probably i mean you know out of all the times to be talking patience they had won six in a row though it did times there were some questions about how this team was really  tom brady at the end of the game as you can see this picture of him is kind of sums up that was him kind of looking rather defeated and part of the reason he looked that way is because of shots he was taking from the titans like this but you know in a game where everything good good go wrong i mean this was the twenty four point loss to the titans the worst loss this team has had in four years and that's that infamous monday night game in kansas city when everyone thought this was the end of the dynasty three months later they want to super bowl but  you know what are you what are your thoughts your i mean there were some warning signs i think in the last few weeks even when they were winning that the team had some issues and it fell at the all came to a head you know here in tennessee almost all of is not the way the n f l is played right now you know most the pence's give up you know twenty to thirty points a game look at the rams the best team in the league are given up big numbers everything and they are probably a team that you're going to that is a good chance of seeing in the super bowl or that at least as well you know the defense is just not a part of the n f l you need to be able to click off pensively and the off ends just is not clicking and a lot of people say well you know bray doesn't have gronk he doesn't have the wide receivers but if you compare this to some of the other teams he's had over the year he has just as much talent if not more often simply than some of the teams have struggled in recent years i am not putting it all on brady but i've done brady seems either a tad off or the ball isn't coming out of this hand the way we're used to seeing it in the past we seem to be rushing his plays a little bit and he seems to be not on the same page it's seems hasn't defenses sort of done what you text in the defense but in the papers have been able to move the ball off sensibly and it's really shocking and you know i think braze off it could be some play calling not everyone knowing where they're supposed to be i think there's a lot there but that really is the biggest problem with this team right now and i think the thing that prevents them from winning for ball i mean you know brady forcing the ball twelve times to josh gordon in that game was i don't know a little perplexing when you know i don't know what's happened in the relationship between him and chris hogan again i was talking with evelyn's our about this who covers the patriots regularly and he didn't really seem to have a much of an answer either you know but eat you would think that at some point he and hogan have got to get back on the same page  you know edelman's back and that helps certainly but but then you know you mentioned drunken here was drunk on sunday you know and i have to wonder you know you know this is been a weird year for him he scored a touchdown the first media hasn't been in the end zone since you know he's talking about you know we keep hearing rumors or rumblings of retirement and and the fact he's just not happy because he can't stay on the field all of a while cronk as though he has really been a big part of their successes over the less specially the playoff success over the last couple of runs either i mean the lot without in true you know i but i think there's times even though they've won a lot they've got a job for sure yeah yeah i think so but i think i think the up and just need to figure it out because you mentioned your force of the ball the gord it also feels to me like they're trying to throw the ball downfield a lot more and the patriots are over the last twenty years and over this run have been you know outside of maybe the randy moss years have been a let's throw the ball downfield team you know when you know when things are going their way off and so they revert t things they revert to the hurry up office like they did against green bay in the previous week which worked pretty well for them or then they go for the little screen pass or the short outs and it seems like there's been a lot longer drops for brady and that's when he well after that it's all of the same play the burn the patriots in the super bowl they still haven't been able to write out how to stop you know that's true you know it's just like when the wildcat confines couple years ago until you figure out how to stop the wildcat we're going to come out you know the miami dolphins are going to come and run the wildcat and it being you until you can stop it it's just that's just how it is that's how that's how football works we're going to run that if you can't if you can't stop this dive up the middle we're going to run it until you stop it so that's just how football works by the way i know i just threw up i threw up everyone in the control room by that shooting that like two minutes or less but let's you know you know i'll give you some time to talk selfish you are a part time season ticket holder when you're not raising your your daughter and your soon to be figuring out their identity they had such a great run in the playoffs without irving and heyward last year and you thought you could just throw those two guys back into the mix and that sort of all gel but it's been a lot i think a lot of the hype in the offseason has gotten to the team's head a little bit they just sort of feel we're going to show up on the court we're going to be better that we're going to be like the golden state warriors you know hit shoot threes and just blow everyone al the barn and they're not that type of team they're a little difference they have some work to do m i would i would definitely be down for that he you know he looks very slow defensively he hasn't really found a shot yet so they they sort need to take them out of it take him out of their overall plan and find a way to ease a little more because they might