want to be restored back to normal house that's directly behind me had a base and where it was twenty times bigger than it was and now it is significantly smaller at the previous meeting of council mr the board council the portion of the roadway described as hidden valley route is actually on the private property of the valley brook country which is owned by the paying members al we don't have an ownership interest there and that's not the case that it's a public road it's been dedicated to the township my point was that complained on either side of it is owned by the country club and for  undertake the work we need to do to secure our road is going to take us probably working on their property so which case we need to release from that would put through the property underneath the road bed that road is passed that thirty b to be able to be able to be is the slide we need to get on to the neighboring property that's owned by the country hard way i look at it is simply th this idea that the road was dedicated i didn't understand you could do such a thing on private property because it's road terminates in the valley grow country called this road is sort of throughway for access to any public residences or businesses this is a private road and by dedicating it to consenting that it's a time trips responsibility that seems a little strange to me  i'm a member of a club and we have a road and we it's not that it catered to you know to the to the public timeship to be paying i mean we we pay our road on our property and i just don't understand how you can do is how can you and then they would have their private road just like whatever twat you said you belong to would be the same thing unfortunately you know as some cops will many many decades ago several decades ago took it very easy that's the way someone took place because we broke his sister says members went over fifteen hundred dollars for improvements providing parking separate mr burke was so i'm sure the members they could see another and you know feature resident would put in fifty bucks we come up with the money necessary to pay for this well i mean if we have the money it says we have to allocate that expense in the post office a great deal of work goes into that plan shall we say once it passes a conceptual stage then i am tasked as the project manager to reach out to the local government to explain what we're doing why we're doing how we're doing it and solicit feedback that is why i asked to speak to all this is the first step of the process we do have a proposed project to relocate them in the post office and the reason is it is space deficient we need proximately four thousand square feet of space for our current operational and future operational needs current location is parked in eleven hundred square feet what we do from this stage as an organization is we solicit feedback the first step like you said is to to ask for for your feedback comments can come directly to me and then i've paid those two postal management make a decision whether or not to move forward with the post office relocation project based off of our operational needs our economic needs and public feedback in this instance in order for us to provide services to the area we need more space that's our justification we will entertain concepts or rather  feet we want to be as close to where we've been as possible well if we were moving from one shopping center to another shopping center and you're going from where there's a starbucks center here for twelve hundred square feet i'm going across the street and there's four thousand square feet well ok logical we do a real estate deal we present we move in this instance what we need doesn't currently exist  it's a very very constrained commercial opportunities here so what we've done is we have a national contract with c b richard ellis and our brokers have been up and down and looking around and interacting with folks and we've come to a discussion with some property owners who have property for sale who are in the middle of development they have propose putting a post office building and it's approximately addresses for ninety eight venetian with right next to five ten in each row which is a self storage area and we had a discussion today with those owners as a possibility of them present thing a building for postal operations as part of their development we are in discussions at that location we are also soliciting and have been and will continue to solicit anybody who has a good location for a new game we're all ears we haven't made any final decision again but we are in discussions with the prospects of that location and  the being where a new four thousand square foot building would be in the new video it would not be a postal one building and we're not buying anything we're not building anything we would simply be part of that development we would be leasing space either now location or somebody else as another location the time line and we're very constrained in our current operations we do have this project is approved conceptually it is a matter of moving forward in identifying a location that works worse operationally economically these things do take time and murphy's law does apply how long will it take for commercial properties it's the income that can be generated from the property that is often used to determine what he says values and i believe it to be and i can check with this to be sure but i believe it to be the income for the business  now it seems to me i mean i agree with mr curie that property on the corner there should be worth a lot more than that but that being said obviously we don't have the documentation in front of us that the solicits that the attorneys involved did so we don't know that fighting it really makes a whole lot of sense  express his concern about truck traffic on pumps and bill road and the weight limit that was posed there and we went to my country our traffic engineer to ask him to look at that there is  somebody who has a trailer truck and decides what we had a meeting with the school did one of the things that came out of that meeting was this is an area where we can cooperate with each other and actually save the community bonds and also come to a better decision in the reality is that the school me but also a letter from mike marjorie he had gone out and done post installation traffic counts for a traffic calming on old washington road he broke it up into three sectors and if you notice to the sectors  not after the post installation they're supposed to be under six under six miles an hour six miles in under over the posted speed limit of twenty five so those two sectors did not meet the post insulation requirements were going to phase t which is the installation of the radar speed signs mike went out after our last traffic calming committee meeting on june first i believe and located two areas where he felt that the science would be most  effective put the addresses there on the one going north tower one going eastbound one going westbound so that's what we did that would be the second phase and we would do post installation counts probably about three months when school gets back in to determine the time is fair under the new one we just passed it would've it would be under the new one we passed the point i would make is that this entire traffic calming process on a washington road happened under the old ordinance so any ones that go forward from this we should hold to the new ordinances standard any previous ones this one and by our here we would have to hold to the old standard in my opinion projects one into place and where it was considered and went through the process it was under the standard the previous ordinance which was seven miles an  is twofold one this is a this ordinance has been in place for many years it dates back to the point in time when the township actually had this bad center here and many of the alarms were hard wired into this building and it which time it made sense that you would bid and pay a fee and so that we would have a record of that that is long since gone away and with with clarifies the language with regard to false alarms in the fees charged her false alarms one of the things that the fire department has always struggled with is that there are holes alarm does firearm to go off they do not then consider that to be a false alarm no matter how many times they come out they think that both alarms involve intent so if somebody maliciously pulling a virus they should get somebody who has equipment  it actually is transferred back and forth between the sanitariums already in the township a couple times it now clearly makes sense that this property be owned by the sanitary authorities immediately adjacent to their new plant it's under perspective i think that performance has been what we thought it would be one of the things is that when we first started this there was a transition period and there were some  if you look at this back in two thousand and fourteen when we had a poll in employee here and if you looked at all of the cost because the individual we had here was not trained as a network support he was kind of self taught but if you took what he made in this and the money that was being spent in with a t c at that time you were looking at about one hundred twenty two thousand dollars a year to support the network there's and that number is not in my opinion not unrealistic given that you're supporting probably one hundred one hundred twenty five computers are c if you were to talk to the employees here i think without exception they would tell you that there are either before or better supported even though the number of hours that some of these on the site is limited to is to go back and look at what we were eighteen when we did this in the house and like i said it comes out about one hundred twenty two thousand four hundred dollars the normal be paid on a monthly basis and the annual basis to will we it's a judgment moving and probably some are getting to that point you know one of the things that we know is we want to go back and look at the process because we wanted it when mark and i want to discuss it with you is that there are a number of these issues including the people who are here tonight where it is not clear that he is a township  problem or a private problem or somebody given between and a whole lot of these cases there are solutions but quite frankly dissolutions or slightly beyond the reach of the private property owner and what we would like council to do if you're willing is to give us a little latitude to work with people to enable them to help do all the work and we were going to solve this together that bill that approaches what we really need to have the ability to do without all these people want to run a council you know this individual in redwo any heavy rain he gets this river that runs around his home the only way to solve this is a capture that water in his backyard that will not be easy an easy task and i think we could help him not solve the problem but we could help him with the solution you know we have another one this is done on raphael which you can tell from this picture of these two or the property slopes from that story back to the to their backyard what you see in the back is a creek there is a runoff between these two homes that is not caused by anything that the township has done but it's the same time they don't have the means to solve their problem because their property line ends about here and even if you gather this water you have no way to get i cases there's a developer something happened now it's different in some cases we don't know why it's happening it's happening what is your plan of how we determine what we're going to do you can get a high who we think is at fault and everybody done something that has exacerbated the situation or not and i and i think it's something to have ever allowed something to happen and i think that it's it's difficult for us to go out to this situation and to throw  hands and say you know what it's your problem solve it i don't and i have no problem doing that in situations where it's clearly an issue between private property and we do that all the time anymore when it's when it's is simply a se just keep coming back and back and back and you never get them off the plane this  other approach to this the companies are so busy that they don't want to spend the time to do competitive bids with us knowing that they may not get the work so we're going to see if we can come up with a way  to to have a designated firm you know based upon some competitive bidding process but what we're doing right now is it working we have been since january trying to get expedited that review and the yes they have raised the question that i wanted to talk to council about you know they have a  township would be willing to allow them to leave that to be in place and how much would it do we have any idea how much the repairs unit cost i don't know that yet but i'll come back to you with that number see if you can find the one thing about popular in your financial report was in the most recent magazine it's an insert and we just finished the comprehensive annual financial report last thursday both have been submitted to the government finance officers association for certification in their respective reporting fields