is looks to me like it's actually a storm window from a window and somebody plopped it on your door yeah if they're in there's another one for the other side of the issue is i want to use the door ok you know you know i can't use it with the storm windows start painted finish flash glaze clear glass fifteen simulated defiant lights which matches the existing the new doors are half an inch taller than existing doors but the same with so the colby to take off the proceed which means we have to follow the rules from the one sixty nine as to why it would be worth it to tear coffee addition in the back room it's a little addition on the east elevation right there so property owners danielle and hellery morrison would like to demolish previously a previous single storey flat roofed addition to that at the back took a little half baffle back there and then the issuance of a nurse to proceed if any of the following conditions prevail that the proposed work can be demonstrated by a finding of the commission be necessary to substantially improve our correct any of the following conditions and the commission has latitude to define some of this terminology as you see that comes from this resource constitutes a this means this is not me playing with the rules i actually call the state preservation office to make sure that majority of the community can be the representatives of the d c so if the majority of the c feels that this addition should and can be removed it's not in the interest of the commission to keep it bigger then you could say it's for through the created by the placement of the sidewalks entrances steps porches and can't be shall be consistent with the pattern established by the character of the neighborhood there are not and there are no proposed changes to the side of our driveway the rear ok so based on standard overnight which is relates to new additions or exterior alterations or related construction shall not destroy the start features materials and special what relationships are characterized property your opinions on the addition i would overall recommend approval for th off the house they'll be redoing the kitchen in the process creating a sun area for sitting and ice or half back a real closet in the back and also that when you enter the house you're on them so i think it would be really nice and can actually see out of the back of the house right  yeah and i think there's very been some talk about maybe the importance or lack of importance of what happens on the back but i'm going to say that you know if there's an opportunity to really enjoy the back of the house that's one of the things that makes you know really great houses even better those are those that you the facia comes down and then you also have the phrase more behind right sort of redrew it in the new no but if you do actually see it in the old studio and there's also a screening that whatever works best for you guys i will make it work several will figure it out i did send a letter of support for the federal tax credit application with their credit text credits that came through everybody  anyway it was sixteen west fifteenth street so it's right next to the old high school midtown project it's that little tiny one story brick building that's going in there so she came in and she had some we can discuss further as i was hoping she would get here on the agenda tonight but she did not she has to come back and show you her proposed material for her so there was a couple of things discussed one shall if you want to paint it it's approved anywhere because it's metal but why would you pay significantly more for something that you're going to have to paint every year it's going to be hideous so it's not approved wanted to point out they have a high water table where she snapped so she ended up originally it was a proof that she would have to leave layers of foundation stone now she's got three and a couple spots i looked at the others that she had used for inspiration and it was discussed as well if it looks enough like that we're fine and some of those were even higher so it's still within two feet i thought dad's not a real big deal but she is going to come back come up and we'll talk further about materials and things and and that's one of the training stuff that we probably will only cover slightly when we have sharon come in to train everybody but as an to think about those things and those kinds of things will really work on this winter when we don't have a whole lot of stuff on the agenda and we can spend a little time updating and typing about what you really want to see what you don't want to see if there's things you want me to just  screen doors stop like they're at let me know but things like fences we've talked about in the past she would like to put a fence around them so i told her that she needs to talk to the commission about that the block grants and it ended in the cancer program and we do have a lot of people who use the enhancement program and the energy program that peter broadens for grants for renovation to the house so we have one woman in particular we will probably see some time soon with her but it needs an addition of the back she's got a horrible will live dishes on her kitchen maybe we should just recommend it come so there's options out there it probably will not stay where that it's not struck break this this is historic so the goal will be to get you guys involved in one way or another because you are the story commission  however if they go with the listing they create a committee that makes that decision my fright is that the committee should be the c e o but it doesn't have to be it doesn't count at least one member of the  created as is produced for a national russian nomination for a single building which i tell you is what i do for a living and they usually take me six months to a year  by committee i can only imagine new years at which case you're right but they don't have to go into quite the detail that i typically go into but it doesn't have to be pretty extensive they have to give a history of the building and not just that what this gets pretty extensive and then they have to inflict pictures and mass those are fairly easy to come up with then have to have an assessment of the existing conditions in the existing integrity of the building so that and there has to be a professional home that you're not going to get by with just written by joe schmoe would doesn't know which doors from which door for it's got to be somebody who knows what they're doing so it does take a little work and it's a lot of work to lay on any committee because i would assume most committee members are going to be working most of the time unless we have a lot of retirees th said they might be part of the building or something they have to use their put on the national register and we can prove that it's appropriate to be there based on the significance of that site then taking heap it's use smaller pieces more rageful but that they're the style of the green house really doesn't work with the energy efficiency of the issues that they need for the parks department so they'd like to build something new closer to where their know that we may hear more about it soon it may be months before we hear anything it kind of comes up and then it goes away for a while so we really don't know how quickly any of this is happening so the city has no obligation to do whatever green comments wants to do none whatsoever there was a memo understanding that was agreed to and we were in the right being the city to keep the building in this location so there's no there's no rush on our part to do anything except that we're going to  the lumber or you know somebody that i know is going to have a product that will come down and they don't have the right products they can look at they're in the same with windows so i've given a list of you know six or eight places that have windows or with doors