and that's regarding the financial taskforce to effort that we discussed last week so i sent around the charge to everybody and got a number of responses i have to say all of which said if you can't find anybody else i would be willing but there was one person who ju you're welcome to take if you if you want the document electronically i have it but i was reluctant to circulate it twenty megabyte the document i did send around this is the st two pages which summarizes the project the funding them out of the into dissipated source of funding and the rest of that document is supporting detail from the individual departments justifying the request and you can take the lead with these items i will say just to get oriented  pavement management monies that includes the water and sewer enterprise monies and it includes the incinerator site calf work which is a large kind of  so it's really the totality of the capital spending which is just over nine billion seven hundred million dollars in going through the word committee f additional work on the fire station so there are some large very idiosyncratic kind of expenditures in the night point seven for this year we have three six for the incinerator cap and  that is you know a marked reduction and i guess the other question i had was on the fire trucks which are also quite large expenditures of fire pumpers almost seven hundred thousand dollars yet another question there's a whole bunch of streets from the pavement managing pavement management program that we're not down this year because i assume because of the lockout yes i'm just wondering his work with the staff already ongoing to identify how we can make the best of it and draw on resources that are outside that will work for it for discretionary budget because it happens and it ranges from the concrete may be sitting too long in the truck at the time it's when it's poured and they've been flushed the truck with a bit of water to get at the poor or salt or sidewalks and i gather that this is a at least a statewide issue it's the case that the quality of the concrete itself is not what it used to be and the still most strategy to table the three pages that has the detail summary of the projects in the five year schedule to fiscal year twenty grand total is a leavened twenty five appreciate it and i applaud you for looking at the detail what i was driving my question is just trying to understand year over year are we up equal and how  those funding sources shift then how does it compare to the in the general fund for prior years are we contributing are we expecting to be contributing more or less and so just trying to get a sense of how all the pieces fit is right because you've got to figure out what defines capital so also not only looking forward but maybe even just looking backward and compare trying to compare things on an apples to apples basis then people can see gee we we are making it vance's or we need to do more or  this this was a really new exercise for a lot of the departments so i think it's that amount slow and then slowly build it but it's important to have all the capital in one place because if you have to make tough choices if we don't have them on the sheet we can't make the choice of some of these things  find the replacement of the gutters i put in for the discretionary and there's also an atheist so i do think you need to find some of the library issues but you know for somebody to have access to the front of the i mean we have to do it there's no choice of whatever it is just understand what the potential exposure is that's what we're trying to figure out you know their exposure to the town just since we're on the site in terms of dumping on that site once that additional items to be added so it's talking to the capital budget committee to really start really talking to the department heads and figuring out what what the final total is and it's important remember this book is a starting point to stop it's not the capital bu this is really my attempt to show you show the town in the departments that what i did want to do st is list the need and then we can figure out how to fund it this is by the way again i just appl because this is very very helpful traditionally the capital budget committee has just received the requests from the departments which have been overseen by the taliban straighter and you know somewhat shuffled down but it is typically just way over budget in terms of our one million four hundred thousand discretionary thought and there has never been an attempt to show us what alternatives might be to fund some of these things and so this is a very helpful document to start with much more so than in years past and we'll see where we go with it but it's a new process and i think it's a good one for trying to be open and transparent and get everyone's help you believe the one item that occurs to me would also be helpful would be to have the list of requests that were not funded just to anything that was not found is in fact the request forms are all here we just pushed it off here if there is something that wasn't able to be funded in twenty  right any other questions or comments about of the remaining nine is on the agenda i have a placeholder for the war committee report and i'm still getting over my shock seemed like a significant restructuring of the document is something we're not going to do but so i've been given some thought about how to simplify production of the standard template that he could then work with which would make make it would take the burden of doing that off of the committee and of the centralized town administrative office and i should be easy to use that's my hope but i will board we had a big day we've been having this big discussion about race and how do you rate design it's been coming out of this whole study that we had done and we had seven scenarios we've been kicking around and we seem to have coalesced on scenarios sex  trying to get the rate structure settled going forward and so the the ideas in and we also have a rate stabilization fund which is two for when the spikes in energy happens the power doesn't go out that sort of thing and the rates don't spike so it does not have the stabilization fund which some of the scenarios did it does not increase the rate for low income people and some of the scenarios did it does increase the rates for two years by two percent  most of the scenarios had three so the scenarios had none but those were really realistic when we ran them all out so there are going to be the it why i bring this up to you is as there are some of those repairs happen to be the tax so there will be some and i can't tell you how much because the different type of building has a different percentage rate and it's there's a whole chart and it's too much to go into but the important thing is to keep in mind that the rates are going to be going up but you know single digit percent for the town now you know we have passed the pilot payment from belmont light to the town we kept to the six hundred and fifty thousand is traditionally been but we are going to look at revisiting that number and also the discussion we have of the con center you know while back about having them act like an enterprise fund and reimburse the town for operating costs that the town incurs to help the like department so even though the town might go up if the pilot and the operating goes come goes up then the washer so i it your radar because things are happening in that regard the incinerator site we had the we were going through those uses we're going to take up the incinerator site discussion january th at our next meeting but the what we've been having all the five remaining ideas run down  chris roy the head of the light department ran down the idea of doing solar storage and he had already done the idea of a solar farm to generate solar power there and found that the size of the area vailable really isn't viable for someone to come and build a solar farm and to make enough power to make it worthwhile however solar storage was something we hadn't really considered storage just sort of they look like shipping containers and they're just basically big batteries and so the solar power and all you know during the day puts the energy in there and then the sun goes away at night and then they can use the energy out of there to sort of smooth every them and other places that have solar power don't have anywhere to put it during the night and you could charge them to use our no pun intended to use our batteries to do that or you know i mean honestly we would do it some private vendor would pay us or we work out some plan where they would come in and do these put these shipping containers on they don't make any noise they don't cause any problem they don't generate new traffic they just sit there and they would then generate money to us and then hopefully whoever is putting it in there might pay towards some of the cap money and so that's one dollar of the ideas this is we just got this on monday cost effective scale but it has other potential for example instead of running solar charger battery up the count conceivably charge the batteries up overnight when the spot prices are quite low and then use the power to smooth out the daily peak because the daily peak and s factor into a formula that determines the amount of overhead for the entire system the element pays so it has a lot of capacity planning potential that is being evaluated at this point now so the five that were running down that's one started out a solar farms kind of more kind of morphed into solar storage the other one is that anaerobic digester which we have the study going to being done we expect the results of that study to see whether is viable and all to come in before the january  meeting so we'll have that we're doing the research now the spike skatepark we've been reaching out to other places with bike skate parks it's fairly straightforward open space on it with no need to research what just grass looks like and that although it's not going to generate any money it'll just be you know open space and my individual fashion i always forget the last item in any number range if you break yes and there was an update on the ring from tom computer on the board he's been sort of spearheading out for us and he was saying that they there were some trepidation about them being on the site and some trepidation about them being able to wait long enough for the site to become available after the high school construction which could be five years to hold any of these uses or  so it's the rink maybe and with that we got a letter from the consultant trying to probably have your summer but the the general gist of it was that the rink we have in there no decisions made but the range is not looking is good we may have thought at one point  so and also the issue of the soil condition that was the other thing the soil condition there is extremely poor because it's landfill in ash and that that you need to have a very stable position a building it in a position that would not you know sag or crack the ice or anything could be cost prohibitive because the condition of the ground there is so poor yet i can tell you that at the d p w building the soil around the building is almost like ash and i considered an unusable for building purposes so we've been for the small addition going on to the d p w building fairly deep are going to have to be driven on the whole structure to distribute the weight and that's for something that  extend the timeline to complete mass d p permanent deadlines and start construction is seen as an incredibly long process to even build the rink there if that would even let you build the river there so even if it meets the municipal purpose that the site is restricted for which we might be able to get so there are i was kind of hoping through this whole process that something would rise to the top and everything else would follow the bottom what happened is a bunch of stuff fell the bob and everything else just kind of parked in the middle and so that's kind of where we are we have five things where they're like wow this is good and this is bad and this is good in this is bad but nothing like jumping up but we don't have be interrupted by just a report in we just got the information on the battery storage which is promising we're getting more info in the ring which is less promising but not definitive so stuff is  five remaining items are starting to shift a little bit as far as positive negative but we've got to make a decision clearly before maybe definitely before me and we're committed to doing it you know early next year we're hoping to do by the end of this year but when we commission the enter o permits that have to be pulled at the state you know there's stuff like we have to tear down the building i mean this it's a bunch of we have we have all these stages that the d p has us on by this date we have to do this clancy is in charge we have to do this and do this and do this and do this and do this o next deadline is may so we kind of have to keep moving or else that the he's going to come after us so we're going to keep moving on up to one of those things at some point we have a war where we can't do the next step two we know we're going to do with it and we kind of just we just have to make a decision and i understand there are five choices each has a group and whichever one we pick four fifths of the people will be mad but it's it's you got to pick something you know we can't go on and i'm not clear is there a date by which were cast to start or discussing i'm not computer has been the selections liaison to the rank thing i'm just reporting what he told me so i get their last meeting so i don't like if you ask me questions my answer is probably going to be i don't know about the details but i'm just telling you what little i do know  t i was told we made a bunch of committee appointments we pointed the new transportation advisory committee to the new nine member committee and we terminated the traffic advisory committee so that new transportation visor committee has been appointed and  going to set up a meeting and they're going to start moving forward on the town wide traffic study results and coming up with recommendations that we can implement to try to get a handle on some of the cut through and other traffic in town based on that town like traffic because their charge is different than the traffic advisory committee because this is cars and pedestrians and bikes it's a broader scope so we're very excited that we did that we filled in some vacancies on some committees patrice introduce so that that's good and castro has now been promoted to the title of budget director and he's not just the budget analyst so he's a higher level because that is actually a very important function as i'm sure you all  understand so i'm just going through my agenda of picking up things you might find interesting financial task force we discussed top of the cycling shows and here volunteer tom computer was going to be our representative to the financial task force to we figure that know there's lots of other stuff i could go into if you really care to look i think that the things are going to see how we go to write anything the school department