if those charges were proven or if there was probable cause for the stop or probable cause was there probable cause for an arrest is the question then spent put in front of you and to be honest i haven't heard anything that answers that question of why was it so i asked her best question this is a yes or no why should why is there probable cause for arrest no regardless of what the charge was why wasn't there probably will cause for arrest on that threatening in our case there were two separate incidents the st happened at ten o'clock that's not that's not the answer you gave me i asked you was there probably will cause for any offense and you said no so i asked you about the threatening charge answer the question again was there problem will cause for arrest on the threatening charge no there wasn't probable cause to arrest in the printer why not even your brief as outlining the facts on page five seems to me to indicate probable in your trying to crawl out of my question again because i posed a question specifically about the threatening charge and you're trying not to answer that question this is your last try focusing you can tell me it's irrelevant i don't believe it is ve been tell me that but you're not answering my question was there probably will cause for arrest on the threatening charge though don't tell me that you're disregarding that because it was burying guns is that why he was how he had guns on his possession ok that let me ask you have a man not carrying any weapons i he goes up to somebody and he says i'm going to kill you i'm going to shoot you you're going to die that person feels threatened calls the police and the police come and arrest the man for making probable cause exists in that brief your brief page five according to mr figaro the appellant said he could put a bullet in figaro as head and that no one would find him bet your every how is that not probable cause  nothing to do with a statement by your client months later in his top a circle ease report figaro a state of the mail party stated to him that he was a cop or twenty something years you think i don't know what i'm doing with this and something to the effect that he's going to put one bullet in his head and nobody going find him that's pretty compelling evidence that there's at least probable cause isn't it a our perspective we have always alleged from the beginning of this if the viewer to suffer death do you have any legal support for the proposition that you disregard probable cause if it wasn't for for events that are happening in the same on the same day you disregard probable cause for want of fence and focus only on the other alleged offense and he brought up any support for that these were not one continuous a series of false arrest if there was probable cause for the arrest that kind of ends the stories as i understand the law and i'm asking if you have any law to support your proposition that's not what it is i haven't seen anything you know i haven't i haven't i agree cause it doesn't mean you've got definitive proof leading to a conviction i think you're trying to say that the standard of probable cause suspicion reasonable suspicion that a crime had been committed that the look at it and doesn't know what it says does he have enough facts of that i understand the question your honor respectfully issue was more along the lines of whether or not have and yet he never actually provided the documentation exhibits showing that he did when in fact the exhibit stated that we look at the exhibits in the objective way the firearm sort of occasions it did the asian party did have it doesn't match everything there is no possible way that the arresting officer could have known that the us the might have applied because the is the didn't apply because he because the appellant didn't have sufficient documentation to show that he had got to comply with the federal statute class i'm not coming i'm not hearing you could you try to get a little closer place i've called the judge callers was correct in his recitation of the facts my client specifically said on the numerous times that he presented his photo