coming so welcome members of the public we have kind of a long agenda but before we get underway i think we will we should have time for other public comment along the way but before we get started is there any public  let's get underway  the first item is the west mean extension update constitute progress update   some hard items that were discussing and continue to think more about just except the project also and other areas we need to clarify so that's and there were items of discussion about two whose benefit is the extension is it for the users is it for the town and if we cannot proceed with the extension which are designed to be self sustained cover their costs then not that it would be advantageous to that much to water sewer users at this time maybe in twenty years but it it is better or it has users so in our early conversations about race and who pays and who benefits this goes back a year or more we talk about some kinds you know i think is an example of a town where the entire entire town pays in for the hospital system because of its role in business and economic development that is not an approach that has ever been used in richmond before so there are from my conversations with citizens and voters there are clearly more than one camp on this issue who made paid in money nothing so historically that users have paid some of this goes back to the day when the where the problem with when the village was a village and then it went from the village to the town and it was now a water district it wasn't thought out that at that point the village per se gave the town the toll it to structure as well as all of our assets plant and so from then on out nothing was ever done to say ok you know you're dead you're receiving these benefits but we're not getting anything or the users we're not getting anything in return evening and then there are cost between the preliminary engineering report the various engineering for example cations to move it forward there we have incurred costs into roll those into the overall project it sustains itself the previous incarnation of this commission past emotions that we would not pursue the extension unless there is a financial benefit to  happened so jeff i'm looking to see what the select toward the west mean cochere request i think this is probably not then looking for a decision but information for the select board that when we come to if and when we come to do respond to these questions is there a way that we can have copies available for the folks in the public because many of the questions came from people sitting in the room georgie wants to make copies and i think it would make sense that would you like  oh we're waiting for one of the face that came up recently at least from my perspective quite recently was a question of unity if you want to speak to what that is and years have been to increase user capacity as a way of diluting user rate so to speak the idea is to get more stable users in the race to agree you still have remaining  just the economics of sept it's both what is the mission or purpose of the water sewer treatment plant and it strikes me that the mission or purpose is not to generate revenue from se so in some ways we've gone from two extremes and it you know i am sure that if we look back over the history of the commission the minutes must have been interesting between when the creamery left when we went from essentially fall we had difficulty taking and current users before we turn to these do any other comments from folks in the commission here and then maybe turn to the documents which overlap with some of our conversation  kendall how would you like to see it we have two different documents here kendall you just have done the work on this so i kind of deferred you to the sequence so we have two different documents one says questions for the water and sewer commission excess capacity we wish we could find somebody to use this to contemplate a future where we'd be closer to the city centrally furry beauty for fifteen or twenty years fifteen years and we  set a new development off we're just having to have the conversation of what do we want the future to look like we haven't then compelled but by anything to think about what would happen if we get close to capacity so i  and these considerations were in the scoping study so they've come up before but we're reacting in real time to sort of what's going on that's what it feels like to be anything and so now thinking about the future what it wanted to today was in late some scenarios look like if we're going to say x percent growth in each one and have some conversations about the different kind of growth so what it seems to me we're trying to do is strike a balance own instinct is i think it's here we don't have to give anyone bad news today it's more you know if certain things happen a year or two five years from now do we want to respond to everything a watching this they walk in the industry to their power and industry took off like nobody expected nor capacity they tried to get their point of created for capacity everything industry couldn't wait they move bruce a little bit you might say great we will build to four hundred thousand dollars of revenue and if we come up sure that towns are going to fill in the wall  as opposed to separate which is separate to only and one of the things that people have heart about is spreading costs not just for the sewage treatment but for the water system itself including a fairly nice new tank more they hate a operation but instead of taking money from the users to make a bank account we take the  challenge enough in the context of the state paving agreed to which is slowly wending its way in our direction to not only that we've been approved for the priority list for funding from the state this is the same funding that caves that they give point seven percent load for the water storage tank and we need a bond with this here so permitting shovel ready it is truly shovel ready we just need the money to pay for   getting that approval for the for the state for the fighting al water chances of getting another negative interest load so it seems it we are in the priority list so it seems one of the early discussions is if we're going to pay back how much would it would we have to pay back this goes in will figure and a rate impact figure how much more per user per year ascertain how much we have spent for each of the last take say two or three years repairs there we did see in that way to i think for the public you know to be able to talk about it and again i'd sort of like the idea and that's where people in the so where you're at is a sense way of front load you know here's one of the questions and look and if we have about twenty minutes left and we have more than twenty minutes of conversation that's probably enough of a starter for at least means three but it merges into the budget if we've got about twenty minutes left and we have about forty minutes of conversation so and we're not out of the woods yet this year for repair costs because they're still expensive for us to recruit so we can still be hit with a huge repair this year so i'm just thinking in terms of budget we're now about seventeen minutes left  are we ok making those the two primary items for our next meeting east main and budget and as you suggested one kind of flows into the other  further discussion here even on favre like two minutes thank you and i would further observe that this is the system we hoped we would put in place it seems like the here in more questions comments you have to be first and foremost second