and so i'm nervous from the burlington district office of the health department and we it's called the burlington district office because it's located in burlington but we serve all of kin county and are trying to go and visit all of the select boards for the towns that we serve realizing that we don't know all of the towns particularly well and that they don't know what we do or how we can help so when people do you know grilling to district office it's usually for the wic program that's women infants and children  food and breast feeding support for pregnant women and children under five but we also have a several community based positions so it's really those that are going to be describing briefly looks like a very packed agenda so we have  our community based team maternal and child health specialist to deals with things like high risk pregnancies maternal depression breast feeding support and we have part of that so we have work with the alcohol and drug abuse programs division so a lot of the stuff that's been in the paper recently falls under my purview i work mostly on the systems and policy levels and also work with organizations who want better education and understanding of substance abuse issues so that is all we just wanted to come introduce ourselves make sure that you know that we are available as a resource for any of those topics or public health questions that come up in general and you know just a little soup was i have published by the health department and it's available online so it's really focused on access to physical activity but also making sure that people don't have to get me car to go anywhere so there might be some had a commission that was formed of six volunteers including myself representatives from the public from the planning commission from the r u d c the the economic development committee and the other four at large and four at large and they did yeoman's work i mean these these folks really got together and spent a lot of hours in a relatively moves further you would schedule a public hearing which could be in two weeks if you'd like following the public hearing you could amend or adopt or or not take any action affects what you'd like to do if you adopt the interim zoning measure then it goes into effect for two years that can be amended during those two years it could be extended into an additional year following another public hearing so these rules will be in place for a significant amount of members of the commission to take of a second charge which is to serve this kind of the initial screening body for proposals that come now why why would we do that when you get it doesn't change the fact that the buck stops here but one of these folks have been thinking about this day and night for you know about a month now they're much more familiar with the details than we are and so they would be able to look at an actual proposal in that light into we have a lot of things that are played and i think to have a a group of citizens volunteers who if they're willing and able to do that and present us with something  that a little more just in a starting from scratch i think it would be in the interests of all i sent out a preliminary request to see if interns only commission members would be willing to to do that and i haven't heard great so let's table that for a minute and just goes to this interim zoning document which some of you may have seen and i'm sure a lot of here want to talk about so is the board have anything they want to besides that word or any of the interim zoning committee members have anything they want to say about this document before we hear from the public about it very always here with members of will essentially place very little in the way of constraints on development on the property in the end what we have is something this provides a significantly more flexibility than the zoning that is that is because there are some shall see here that i think that there are some opinions on the shelves so what exists currently i'm going to i'm going to further jump on that just because i think some of that really got hammered out the last minute right so i didn't do a this interim starting although it's not expected to undergo the redevelopment there is owned commercial right now there's no ability to do any residential component there the  coverage of the law is somewhat constrained and there's a number of your environmental restrictions there which we didn't change but we changed the building work so some of the biggest changes that we made are to allow for  residential component there with a mandatory commercial component so it wouldn't be all residential we change the parking requirements we increase the law coverage we modified the height limitation the two point eight acres which are out of the floodplain and i think we've each member of the committee took a different spot and worked on it and we worked through it and the the bottom line got maximum residential density with a maximum or a minimum commercial component to the members can speak up but i think those are pretty much what composes the shall see really has to do with standards for the site as far as different uses or how much coverage how much square footage you can fit on the site is pretty much open for the developer to decide how much they want to try to design  include uses which are compatible all mixed use project shall provide at a minimum fifty percent nonresidential gross floor area per the total residential gross floor area in the case of a multi structure development this racier shall be calculated for the development site as a whole rather than for each structure individually and a development proposal which is one hundred percent residential is not considered right so what we've done there is to say for all the residential that you're allowed to build which is a maximum of twenty two living humans you have to have at least half of that amount floor area is not as nonresidential as commercial so that's actually a very small component because if you take twenty two living units and say there are a thousand square feet each it's twenty two thousand square foot in that case it would be a minimum of eleven thousand square foot all right ok so in reality it's going to be much more than that we didn't want to require much  this is going to be released on the website tomorrow and we're going to talk about it again at the next meeting but ok i i think that there's people here who want to say something so if you want to say something now's the time to do it i was doing different q that it was like actually fifty residential and commercial and that's not the case so i think that's all good the one thing i would urge you to do this is perhaps just read format the document so that it is clearly needed like the showers in the reply routes are here and recommendations are in another section perhaps it just because when you read it it does look like you know tonight huge documents and it can be a little of the current program name i think it's called the energy code was that program to provide technical assistance to the builders to go beyond what the standard and then prints these for the equivalent as the program of oxers renamed with the exception of those dwelling types that meet the vermont residential building energy standard  that's that's the state energy code that the residences are already supposed to be meeting is that correct yes or now my i don't know the answer but i think we need it but you know we're getting a little ahead of ourselves here yes but but but you know so what's the way you're hitting on is perhaps someone could answer why this is in the document as a recommendation and not a requirement and rather than rather than saying we recommend that everybody go through the program then we're in the position of having to determine that but doesn't it mean that says some of the examples are mobile homes and that's certainly not proposing that mobile homes  options we can make edits tonight i think that's appropriate actually i'm defending one had anything they wanted to change immediately otherwise i would ask the board to set a public hearing for the april twenty first meeting regulation and insurance services organization who basically cops say you're fired sure to rate so it's something we can look back and she flew back didn't give us anything in writing but it was clear he researched it pretty carefully  your discussion on this date in favor say yes this and anyone opposed it has been set for the twenty first and it will be posted sorry so we're going to have it at the library that's fine you can do so we will have a public hearing at seven pm at the library on monday the twenty first and this document will be posted online tomorrow  but the district and we've done a lot of very interesting things with it things that we hope potentially will extremely simple life for folks in the floodplain or in the in this district on we're not sure they're going to be adopted or accepted body yet we've been pushing that issue for a while trying to find out from folks still haven't heard back and we're closing in on a really important deadline which is on in august when our new maps are adopted we must have valid flood hazard overlay district was only in place that is acceptable to all or we lose our ability to participate in the the national flood insurance so since we don't really know if fim is going to adopt what we've been working so long and we did receive a checklist assessment of our current flood regulations the checklist indicated that there were two minor really title errors corrections that need to be implemented on our current zoning in order to be compliant on the the fact that we don't know if our proposals are actually going to fly we didn't want to put all of our eggs in one basket and rely on our proposals on me to satisfy everything that team is going to expect us so we've decided to go forward unfortunately with just these two minor changes right now we've worn to hearing for work sixteen is going to be very brief because it's very simple it's only a couple of items and talk about it we're going to pass it i can't imagine there's going to be any contention to it because it just all the changes to satisfy the bare minimum requirements that beam is dictated we have in our zone and by the time our new maps are adopted very straightforward we're also going to spend a little time afterwards talking about our proposed on the rigs you guys might want to come in for that one should be pretty interesting on going to try to explain what we're doing we're really hoping that we actually hear something back from the state or fema but it's really taken a long time there we haven't gotten a proper response yet on what we're proposing so hopefully we will know that by then and have more information for you but at least it'll be good to hear what we're thinking and what we've done i really think folks are going to like it i'm also really hoping that is something that is so simple that it will be able to move through pretty quickly as well in the approval process so that in the short term getting back to this first proceed through this warrant hearing on the sixteenth well we are hoping that we're going to hear something from the state before we actually send this to a hearing on we didn't want to send it morty hearing for it without knowing whether or not the state will back it support but they don't want to review it until we have a hearing so it's kind of this wrestling match of getting them to take a look at it before we warn and spend all that money on here so but but what has been submitted currently and it is pending will that are you planning on taking that you're planning on taking that back up after this stopgap has been put in place that's corrected that's required for anybody to get a permit in the flood and that's probably the district there is a rather lengthy application process a warning you know you have to post a sign out front and this is for something as simple as changing the door and  on if you have to wait fifteen days to fix a broken window or something because it has to be and had to be properly warmed we thought that was ridiculous so we thought we'd come up with a way to avoid a formal permit and sort of do another one of the reasons why female wants a permit is to man the track on which cost it is that it doesn't exist this fifty percent value of the home in any repair of the ways you have to flood proof the inter building oem so if we just had a little form that you signed and documented that the windows only cost twenty bucks then and you can do that on the side and get it done without having to go through  so we don't know fema is going to actually accept that because they do have reference to problems with the big big question anything else thank you deference to our local authority which is what i will be testifying on and i am going to prepare an affidavit for pre filing testimony basically saying but for the town's position and study and basically the department said yeah we have we don't we don't contend we did we're not contending the outcome of the statics study which basically said this isn't going to be the statics so if the department said they don't have any problem announced that the williamsville tower was going to be withdrawn so there is no application for that there are two existing so actually pending applications were in what's called the pre filing period for the we have until april fourteenth to put official comment into the record or we're not our only hope that either continuing the process or being involved in the point forward would be to identify a significant issue with either one of the applications and request a public hearing if we don't do that it's likely those out what you know one of the applications would be concerns we get higher standards consultant to do a review we could hire a propagation expert to see if placement of the towers really does provide a benefit to richmond  could try to see if there is an environmental grounds on the one of these towers gordo thank you for going through any weapons or any sensitive areas from what i see so really you're limited to again are locals already and well first of all i think that you know we've all agreed that development in our flood plains is under extreme scrutiny and i learned this at the planning commission meeting the other night is certain things are allowed when you're trying to relax the laws and certain things will be allowed i find it kind of amazing that a man who lives over here just the next house down lives in the flood plain yellow house green trim mark can't replace  board on his porch without a reminder how meeting process but you're going to let a team to go in here and put a road in some tower now my other point about cell towers is that i have done some research and  documents issued by the department of homeland security and the us government accountability office say that the government the federal government has identified eight sectors of the economy that it deems critical critical to national security and essential to the functioning of the united states economy those being telecommunications transportation water supply oil and gas production banking and finance electrical generation emergency services and the central government function these inclusively is what our government deems as being critter cool infrastructure there for cell towers become critical infrastructure and when you talk about critical infrastructure you talk about an entity that has to have emergency access three hundred sixty five days a year seven days a week twenty four hours a day period so if we look back to irene for instance and mean that was an anomaly and to that i would say that if you'd like i have a link to this but mary will was actually interviewed by warren victory of p t s d just a couple months ago in january when her driveway was covered with two feet of water once again this is going to cause inaccessibility to this critical infrastructure and she's i quoted as saying that the water was about two feet over my driveway for the next four years i want to make sure that if something happens for the bus from here to there somebody with a bus radio with our son we can use his cell phone and call him so save for this whole community these very big problems that makes it very difficult to be on this like that because we're the point of contact and i it's not true that there's nothing that we can do and i think from the perspective of the citizens that are opposed to this we will never be able to do enough but unfortunately one of the few things we can do is spend town money on it without any knowledge of how effective it was very interesting for me because i had chance to talk to one of the engineers afterwards and learned a lot about cell phones that i didn't know up till then i was pretty much just a user nine i use cell phone a lot and i have a smartphone and i and i use these  advanced features and what we're talking about with these cell towers is not about voice and i think we need to be be clear about that if all we wanted to do was provide everybody in in from for that matter or richmond with the ability to make a voice phone call we'd be talking about a much smaller number of towers spaced much further apart and that's what we had intel cell phones started to handle data now th so that my kid can play candy crush in the back seat beyond driving on eighty nine now they have to have a lot more cell towers placed a lot closer together because each cell tower can handle fewer of these data heavy transactions nobody is is out there making this is a decision about whether it's worthwhile to use to have a cell tower so my kid can play candy crush the backseat now i'm making it that way purpose to make it sound idiotic you know there are probably very important reasons to have that level of cell but frankly nobody even knows what those are yet you know this is the nature of technological development so i'm rambling on here just to sort of but just what would change in june was things that this is a really complex issue we're really small part of it what it comes down to for from the perspective of sitting in this seat is how much public money you know if there is something that i felt like we could really get some leverage and start to bring some statewide expertise or even national expertise to baronet i would i would prefer spending the money but on the other hand i can't in good conscience just say that we should go in and throw tomatoes that at us the process that we can't do anything about i'm just trying to get a handle on the difference between those t it violated our our selling and so the decision that we're making tonight is what what we put it and the letter to the public well first of all are we going to hold a letter there and second of all what would we put in that letter to the public service board to hopefully hopefully implore them to have a hearing so that's what we're that's what we're deciding so right now we have town plan natural resources permitted in prohibited locations that's the arguments that we're making to the or that we're proposing to make to the public service support for grounds for a hearing yet we're not going to solve the problem tonight we're here to or not it's always the next meeting or the next meeting but if we should or need to add to that list then that's what we're here to decide or what we should take take away and i think we've heard that maybe there is maybe there is a floodplain issue maybe maybe saying maybe i don't want to deal with speed another argument but i'm saying maybe there is a plane issue that needs to be added to that but but that's but this is this is the argument they were trying to make is that what are you going to hear and and they're not going to her side of the ocean unfortunately which you've acknowledge because rescinded depending on yeah and we don't have to prepare anything in advance and interview their status or get requesting a hearing we just say we'd like to have a hearing and then we can decide what we want to do from there but we need at least get state government the state government made the decision to take away the authority from us to enforce our zoning in this case now we have this the opportunity to request a hearing and we can do that but you know i think is too much saying  not be under any illusions that that we're going to be able to do anything in the end the thoughtful responsible action that you call for that's what the state government believes it is doing in this case  so i have no problem with the foot in the door but as long as we keep an eye on how deep we're getting in the commitments that we're making in the likelihood of actually being able to get some traction on this i mean and i think we need to recognize that we might not door even even if we could even if we throw everything out that we we throw every reasonable idea violation of the zoning law that we have i think we need to recognize that we still might not get and even if letter let's see what we get then we go from there just like we don't find anything just like we did for the past couple of months as we said we have to do it step by step if you like with the detail if we get in and then we make a decision here we do write a letter we make the argument if we get it ok then what do we do to so i make a motion authorize jeff to draft a letter to the public service board outlining our our position on how we feel as though cell towers are is to authorize this draft and then we can make additions to that rightly so is are second to authorize the draft letter to the public service board all right so the draft letter to the public service board has t including being stealth facilities so is there there's additional things that you would like to add to that i mean yes i don't know what they are do you have something you would like to add to this letter do you have to housing so right now right now we're discussing writing this letter at no cost to the town we haven't decided that we're going to include their information actually we have decided as i stated  to request intervener status based on violating the town plan being hysterically not pleasing and not being permitted her zoning regulations david you suggested that there was information that the gr the merits of each individual and have us decide whether we want them on we'll do whatever you want there's a motion to adopt this letter as it was presented to us doing well i think you want to change question is do d is the board believe that this is being built on a flood plain and shouldn't be that's what i'm that's what i'm ok so i don't believe as a board if we are taking the time to submit a letter to the public so this is what i'm asking is if we have it then we need to find that we need then we need to add this specifically is out now generally speaking as a as a regulation i mean we could just say here's our here's our regulations buy your data i think we need to be very specific and say regulation just like there was six point twelve point four per minute in prohibited locations are what is the floodlight regulations and it's six point four because it's just presented by mr fossil like you six point eight point four no all right so what we've done is we've added to this letter a discussion that will be written stating that the coward cochran wrote it is also in violation of don't have to but we have a letter in front of us that we amended and i would i think the board should adopt a letter as we've amended and send it to the public service or do we  spend the next three hours and it's like i feel like if we can give the authority to just like we did with previous letters to put in the appropriate regulations that may or may not apply here that we think apply  it's up to the public service board to decide whether they apply or not now we could be throwing the kitchen sink we exactly i would be comfortable allowing our town manager in consultation with people who were researched and we the sitting right here with a lot of other stuff on our plate to draft the appropriate letter to send to the public service board with the appropriate citations ok just charge the tell measure with drafting a letter thanking with it without stipulating how the motion is to allow the town manager to draft a letter requesting intervener status on the two for the two projects is there a second number proposed a cost of nineteen thousand five hundred annually plus plus one hundred barrel dollars per hour for service services beyond that we see a appeal for monoprice the company had a base bit of twenty three thousand dollars spencer pot r gave a per hour rate with no annualized amount but if he did clarify that say he would be going to do eight hours a day one day per week which would equal eighteen thousand seven hundred twenty dollars per  would be a period for a one year contract for one year is that correct yeah so does note we have forty five days before there's no more listers and the busy period coming up so you have we've got to hire someone to do it and then in another him so everything piles on bring anything else i was in favor of contracting with memory for the period of one here to provide a have given a little background in my memo basically the factors been going on for about six years now they finally got a contract in purchase that they brought another town into the consortium we had a one year memorandum of understanding or membrane of agreement to continue in the port consortium last year that's expired they want to do all i think we're still committed to doing the project we're looking forward to it around essentially on prokofiev land right has two neighbors that also use proc only in for their access and it's always been informal right wants to formalize this first by giving us a license a thirty year license to use the turn around and we would be responsible for maintaining the road in plowing the snow which we do already and secondly he's going to give easements for access to his neighbors is the only question we have it lee is are there other situations like this in town and this does this set any kind of precedent that that we need to be concerned about i couldn't tell school bus from turning around in his driveway in the town they had to locate to right away and improve out to the edge to be able to give the school was a place to turn around there are a number of other dead in roads that school bus might go through but seven fifty five and a fifty five am just in the road and the road was closed and they're going to pay all the expenses for the extra police services and they're going to know others and they're going to have an active phone number so that some people can they can be him and so we'll look for a copy of that at some point from her if there's no objection up table to public safety working group discussion and move on to reports from the s meeting last week to discuss alternatives and there was a conference call today to discuss the results of the meeting so in a preliminary standpoint it appears that almost all the alternatives but we're going to recommend any other two alternatives one was widening to five childers on route two which the railroad said they would not agree to because that encroaches further closer to the rail line and there's what's called the no no build alternative or do nothing alternative which is the state's going to improve route to in a couple of g mail google calendar which is great for scheduling in visualizing but the ability to attach a document to it doesn't seem to exist very well you can attach a document through google docs but if you don't have a google account you can look at it so it's not very good sharing the information what i'd like to do is try to modify the calendar page so that we can attach  well well that's the the attachment but right now if you look at the calendar it's got a place for you to set up to be and you can attach a document a p d f to that such a problem for international that they actually changed the way the equipment trucks and the short story was that's the only engine this way plus any way we would either have to go to a big over the road cummings which is