now both sides ready to proceed ok there is an appeal across appeal to you and this you have indicated to the deputy how you wish to articulate your time with respect to your appeal and then respon had to directly pay to be his they didn't it really was silently as to whom the trust was obligated certainly there was no question they have the trust did make payments on a regular and said what we've already told or we are now subject to in this agreement in it of itself is not going to submit us to the jurisdiction because he has a today we otherwise there is otherwise very clear that the only people in title to any sort of accounting are income beneficiaries of which already perjury is not one the only income beneficiary was a genius from the war she was in the title of the documents so so so with all that history the court still found no jurisdiction and there's nothing that happened since may of two thousand and fifteen which it has been used as showing that somehow the court or the beneficiary before anything can happen with respect to that trust the guardian again that a creditor had a daughter the guardian must come into court with notice seek re focus on the term otherwise there's actually more in there and then even the otherwise there's also says we're not submitting to the jurisdiction duration we're beyond the parameters of acknowledgments and stipulations and that means do any form or consent of jurisdiction and nothing shall be construed that way and we really easy to britain's at least that we have this tiptoeing language that says i'm sort of submitting but not and it doesn't take much to submit yourself to your si and by other people as well and provided that the trust is to pay for their genes others were exhausted and that's what this that's what maureen was asking the guardianship to do and she  will have another opportunity in there the suggestion that this language which i've just read is an acknowledgment of oh the guardianship court of the suit and the submission is beyond me because it doesn't  but there's nothing in paragraph six which talks about the case what it talks about is how we're going to take care of my own what the assets in what order are we going to use to take care of my own there's nothing in paragraphs which talks about entire proceedings and say we've reached an agreement by ourselves and nobody has submitted to the jurisdiction of the court but they all knew there but the they couldn't do that yes they could but you can always dismiss remember pending the only thing that the trust had pending at that point file was objections to jurisdiction saying we know th have changed we have to look at all how everything is so they had the amount that's been paid reflects what is happening today in two thousand and fifteen that was happening nine years ago in two thousand and nine when they had a similar we have to look at the whole picture linda knows what's going on she's a daughter everybody knew what was going to happen everyone knew about the mortgage and the no in the payments this was not secret so so course the daughter's going to come in saying look let's make sure we're using the money were supposed to go if housing costs have gone down the payments of the virgin should go down because they had to be big component of what is being paid to them agreed to pay the greens fees and that was what we found out shortly after the initial hearing of the motion and that have a birth certificate for the fees that was the night we found that out and that's it he brought the motion to reconsider the trust