therefore mr travers testimony should be deemed as the truth for the counsel counsel could you help me on the question that's bothering me in this case it looked to me perfectly plausible always bad thanks to him was not because they thought he was proceed but it wasn't even to seek but rather because they thought he could help them find the arms dealer  governmental anti nationalistic there's a certain tension here on the one hand we give asylum to people who are persecuted by reason of political opinion on the other hand we deny asylum even if they are terrorists or people who are terrorism supplying weapons so it's not like supplying pamphlets yes right it's a persecution for political opinion if they think what he's doing stand militants that doesn't mean i have any political opinions that doesn't mean i'm pro calloused stand it just means a pro making the money now if i buy the machine guns with my own money and i give them for free to the cali stand militants said they're looking for this guy as part of a criminal investigation we're looking for evidence and they have a mistake now the second one is a different issue so when you're asking about the arms dealer but they're also asking about seek militants now why do you and since he was travelling from abroad they associated him with working with him and they started questioning him and torturing him to get information about their whereabouts even if our grandson there was no link o eighty two the administrators record the police started off with the same thing and only then they turned to this question about whether he knew other criminals who were also wanted by the police seek militants now it's important to remember with withholding because asylum is not in question here because of the the bar about the one year requirement withholding the petitioners burden is higher than an asylum he investigation of windcharger and only in the punjab and not in delhi was he asked in addition about these other criminals and that was kind of an afterthought in each additional evidence in the record that suggests that in fact he didn't have a well founded fear on any ground because the record shows that when shadow died in two thousand and one that's a page one else i'm sorry i don't at this time i'd like to say a little bit more about the about the cat question a on the record supports the fact that as i said before that there was a difference in questioning between new delhi in punjab he was only questioned about when shot in new delhi and not  about that he was able to leave from new delhi on its past or and that he spent some time in new delhi it's not completely clear from the record how long he said that he has stayed with an details are he was already in the custody of the police in the punjab they started as high as i said i'm asking him about when shot and then at some point they asked him about whether he had contacts with these individuals who apparently had gone to the same college that i think were several years ahead of him in college and i guess he told them that you know he was not in contact with them at that point i think that was pretty much all that the transcript  explains are there any more questions your hono address why he was ineligible thank you