sophisticated party on the other end and then even specifically indicated that they were not going to answer or jurisdictional detax does that mean they saw something in the record does that mean it's standard language in everything what do we read into that i couldn't tell you exactly what that the mortgage or the foreclosure judgment on the remaining orders were made defective including the order confirming the sale with respect to the mor not just one or two documents and when you look at the entire record in the entire foreclosure harris foreclosure record if you examine it there are several things that were there in addition record what it would have seen is that the court made a determination that service was proper on concorde by publication there was a due diligence to david that motion aquash and we really don't know why the motion to quash was granted there are morals a heap of evidence you're hearing six witnesses that testified testified and there was no record on  already purchased the property in the still case the into readers really third party purchasers who tried to argue that the mortgage or mr silk was not allowed to clarity attack the foreclosure to stop the process at that point however that's not what's going on here there's no question that ultimately congress who are raising motion aquash and after an jurisdiction so in reviewing the underlying foreclosure case it would have been evident based on emotion to dismiss or insufficiency of service the service was an issue in our case however there and to somebody who's just examining this record without knowing you every single detail about this corporation there would be no reason to question this due diligence affidavit that was clearly considered by position from chicago title trust was that you were so convinced that this was everything was accurate everything was done correct everything in an affidavit is absolutely according to hoyle didn't why put the clause in title eleven forty seven and specifically to paragraph twenty see defects or additional information if any call colin nine so the purpose of paragraph twenty one is to indicate to the insure exception rule to the policy the courts have determined that the duties of the puppet the duty of the purchaser is to examine the state of title only if there is something that makes one question the in this case with respect to the motion aquash i believe the issue there was a substitute service in the bill paxon up personal service to do this that's not really the same kind of service that even an issue here about but and have a right to do so under illinois law otherwise but if you say you don't you still can't speak if you can look at the whole record but this is a series it is like a house of cards if the jurisdiction is brand new matter how well everything else falls into place it fails because it was not proper jurisdiction how can you look at all these other people trial court made all these findings and on and on and on  signet and it was specifically spelled out by the court in that case that it was especially important to look at that issue because why they brought a motion to quash significantly nine months after we are purchased the property and but nonetheless as soon as they found out about the judge well i'm not sure that was a rebel that's not clear from the record as to when they found out about it unless we have to assume are that harris had a two point six million dollars mortgage on concord had a nine hundred thousand dollars junior where if you nobody disputes the fact that conference mortgage was junior the property ultimately sells it sale for one point four million is why the judgment was ultimately vacated with respect to concord but there was no reason to undo the entire sale when the mortgage jeweler had participated and pat and the and and all  the any offer any other indication or