hi david the proof is here for a common good yes and what we try to do on this show is show items that have been released into the creative common that is sharing allowed hence you to put and most of the recent ones on this particular series have been on political events and you know i thought of going away from that for a bit but it's been a while so i think and i think i'm going to stick with the politics because wow don't we all think about the stuff and so this also will form kind of a historical record of things which i i really like things have been released for the common good and so i have noticed that m s and  has pretty much released hundreds of videos into the creative commons which i find absolutely interesting and so we're going to show a few of those this time ok first up this is well this is something i've often wondered about the report is young alabama republicans like millennia  rejecting roy moore they see people over politics i thought that was really fascinating i've often wondered about that i thought that perhaps older republicans were you know more whatever the party says they go along with it even if it's electing a accused child molester but not some with the younger group so this is interesting this topic because you're from the south you're from mississippi this morning i saw that the head of the young republicans from the state of alabama jackie curtis she came out and said politics aside you have to put decency first i cannot vote for roy moore what's the president doing well i'm proud of the younger generation for showing leadership and that's something that i've seen consistently in millennial focus groups that i have conducted over with lord ashcroft polls in the united states is  younger voters are not as tolerant of the tribalism that says we're supposed to disregard conscience donald trump is speaking without any strategy i see him going out and speaking on behalf of nothing but himself he's thinking of himself at the end of the day and his defense of really more i'm interpreter is a defense of donald trump when donald trump was him self accused of sexual misconduct but if he's thinking of himself why would he put himself in the line of fire right now yes he was being criticized for being silent but he is getting slammed but put away with the media saying the risk he's taken putting himself out there and he has now put the accusations against him in focus i just want to share what he said yesterday because it is stunning listen to this is not what he said yesterday to me this is donald trump the words he used to defend himself and then the words roy moore used to defend himself it's stunning to me how similar they are watch this supposed to read structural impropriety which never happened never would have happened the stories are total fiction they're one hundred percent made up they never happened they never would happen they're basically using the same playbook at a time when the president and everyone else in power is encouraging women to speak out when you talked about more than twenty women have accused the president and roy moore you come out of the banking business so you understand statistics and probabilities what are the odds that all twenty of these women are making these stories up and for him to come out and  moore and and stephanie this is a guy who clearly looked at custody hearings and dance recitals as mixers back when your societal story i had no family members had no reason to be let me tell you my husband doesn't even want to go to dance recitals that our children are and what a grown man be doing at a teen dance recital but he's now thrown down with him and this idea well he denies it ok that sounded like charlottesville there's blame on many sides you know there's not is not enough it's it's the wisdom on this comes from the marx brothers you know who are you going to believe me or your lying eyes i find this i mean like so who are the three people it's roy moore it's steve bannon and it's donald trump who are on a team together who thought this was a great idea i mean even avant garde the one person who i think the president never goes against went outside the box for her and said i have no reason not to believe the accused will and now doug jones is raking in the fundraising dollars and his ads are all over the they believe the women so you have that is the ad that the democrats are weaponize in it it's really more in the republican party right now in alabama are we going to talk about a different story veteran broadcaster charlie rose a legend and icon has been fired by c b s and his relationship with p b s and bloomberg terminated all less than twenty four hours after he was accused of sexual misconduct with eight women since then more women have accused rose of inappropriate behavior including a former charlie's someone we didn't know and i conned a legend and you sat there you've watched charlie rose on t v for years when you sat across from his accuser what did you learn what was going through your most this is an interesting story and pretty reflective of what a prize in turn shape at the time joined them and one of the things that she was asked to do one night was bring charlie rose his mail over to his apartment and listen to what she said happened just for a moment a young woman just out of school once is in turn ship is excited to be there has a lot of respect for the business thinks that she wants to get into the business and this is one of her first experiences in that world it's deflating it's deflated here's a funny for me being a journalist and working in t v news this is tough stuff for all it's crushing listen we've seen media analysts in the last day say wow look at the talent drain that's happened as a result of this men in journalism and media and entertainment think about all the women who could have had a really and careers and their dreams and goals out the window when they experience something like that i want to bring my panel back michel and elise michael what is your take on all of this i mean what sarah gordon experiencing the movie the secretary is about a powerful man you know playing some sort of sexually abusive mind games with a young beautiful woman clearly you're old didn't buy into the president's theory of what a special time this is for women in america yesterday there's a path ology work here that we see played out again and again and again with with powerful men and i don't know how to describe it except to say they want what they want when they want it and i pointed this out your friend of mine yesterday male friend and he said and how they want it and this has played out over a long time in a culture that got embedded in the system especially in the world of the media but any world that involves powerful men and young woman who is seventy said among the internes on the show this had become a kind of joke and think about the news room that we were again in the industries that you work and if only the internes know what's going on what are the chances the rest of the staff isn't fully aware of what's going on and it's joe condemn just that word a joke is deeply upsetting that simply upsetting but also this idea that you know when you hear from some of these men well i thought maybe it was consensual i thought  consensual yes maybe these young women didn't run out of the building screaming because these are their dream jobs they're dying to be in this industry and they simply don't know what to do they're paralyzed i need to turn to john conyers because this story kills me longtime democratic congressman again another senior citizen the senior citizen factor blows my mind on this don't these old guys have anything better to do who is admitted to using ready for this tax payer dollars from the state of michigan member flint michigan that still doesn't have clean water from the congressional office to settle a dispute with a woman who had accused him of sexual misconduct conyers insists he did nothing wrong but it mitt's the settlement did happen and today is hometown paper the detroit free press called on him to step down writing quote even of conyers could prove that he did not make inappropriate advances towards his former staffer there is no defense for having used dollars from his congressional office to settle a claim elise jordan i turn to you good detroit free first saying that he should resign why isn't the new one democratic leadership wide aware of the cries from other democrats saying this is insane that taxpayer dollars are going for the ok because those democrats can scream that nor can republicans because the system is built to take this money from this fund while conyers may be morally corrupt that he took the money and the system is built that way many people voted for president trump because they said i'm sick of washington i want something else this kind of congressional fund is the exact kind of thing people assumed this administration would find out about tear up and say you got to be kidding me you know from the justice for all you're out of order you're all out of border and the system isn't holding right now you wonder why people in this country have less confidence in their government than ever before you look at the case of poor old john conyers and i'm not saying that in any sympathetic he goes now he goes he's a he's a he has as much a place in the congress  never go to something right like unless it's a it's hush money and a slush fund to the next item speaking of donald trump did donald trump when he was tw implicate himself this has been making headlines and this is in the creative commons so it has now become part of history and let's watch it because i really do believe this is one  of the new book it's probably on your christmas list inside of the break ins and breakdowns that put donald trump in the white house and at the same fried is a republican strategist and he brought me a bottle of wine today so i'm considering letting him go  officer under the constitution article two and has every right to express his view of any case is that it's an absolutely false it all comes down to what was his intent in talking to komi and telling him to stop the flow and investigation i mean there's no question john mitchell who was nixon's attorney general who was intrusted with enforcing the laws was convicted of obstruction of justice that is a ridiculous defense it has never been raised before it will never pass muster with any court it all comes down to whether or not donald trump had a corrupt intent trying to stop the investigation when he told james comey to stop the investigation but all of this is smoke because the real investigation here the real indictment that's going to come out has to do with a conspiracy between the trunk campaign and the russians in order to throw the invent the election to donald trump you can see that in the flynn plea the materiality for that false statement has nothing to do with anything but the collusion allegation between the campaign and the russian government going through all of this are the emails that were stolen out of the d n c starting with knowing about this in april are going to goldstone telling don jr that he was going to show up and give him all these emails and then having them all go on to wiki leaks and two groups or for two point zero looks like through roger stone based on what we know what we're seeing is a major conspiracy will long between the trump campaign and the russian government that is starting to come into shape the obstruction is just part of it it's the motive why they're obstructing think about the hot water who could be in or even his family members why would he put that tweet out because he can't help himself look every time that in a nutshell he can't help himself look at what it all friday afternoon for the president to tweet something out because this guy when it comes to he's a master of the one hundred forty two hundred eighty characters but he waited he waited to get the what i call the right the right temple because he puts a little bit of hot sauce every time he tweets he wanted to put a dig out there i don't think a criminal defense lawyer would have drafted a tweet that would have put this president and more legal jeopardy i think every time the president tweets inject some self into this investigation he can't contradict himself and want to get caught know in a big ball of mess he then what distract and say well what about hillary come on this is not about hillary clinton this is about down the trump it's about his campaign it's about the obstruction in the white house and it's time for the president to get out of the way and let mr miller finish his investigation or what do you think about this argument that doubt it has that maybe dowd wrote a tweet to me it doesn't matter who drafted it president tran's name is on that i have access the account if you can take away the president's tweets were true is greatest liability as a legal argument for intent for whatever he did it's a smart legal play in my book i'm not a lawyer as well so very thankful for that but on the what about make any difference as you say what happens in any trial is it for political trials not criminal and on the hillary thing it's remember when o j simpson's defense team said what about all the other murders who are not getting convicted and prosecuted that doesn't matter it doesn't matter whatsoever what is going on with president trump as he's being investigated by the special counsel sarah huckabee sanders said on november third two thousand and sixteen if you're under investigation and you're attacking the f b i that's investigating you you're losing and that's exactly what president trump is doing i wonder if kennedy and the professionalism of the f b i just a couple weeks ago he called the members of the intelligence community ok but that's not well you know i know but he's a talent in the people that work for him they work for the american he's been doing credible here the corroborating evidence on behalf of james called me is over whelming art will help me understand what counterpoints work right right now trunk team wants to go after a b c news and brian ross has a great deflection point but how about this washington post revelation that one of mahler's agents had sent anti tank tweets and muller had to take them off the russian investigation how much of an issue does this end up being is it a real problem i mean  move the guy i think is an h r now but is it a real problem i don't think so look i think what direct a mole is done is making sure that this investigation is conducted with the utmost professionalism he was right to remove them i think what donald trump does on a daily basis is try to figure out how to muddy the waters how to include more people so he can distract and distort and then it works of it works temporarily until he contradicts himself again and that's why i think donald trump is in a lot of trouble today because of that what he did over the weekend then it was just quiet modelers move is actually really a net positive because it shows that he's putting the integrity of the investigation and these weren't even tweets these were private tax and legally you can have a political opinion privately when the private text came to muller's attention the summer he said you're out that no ifs ands or buts why because he wants this investigation to be as above board as possible you can't have it's credibility and impartiality questioned whatsoever and robert mueller was right and it then split this up for me when president trump muddies the waters and adds the treats and the confusion i think it helps his base even helps average americans that hear so much noise they start to tune it out and say just remind me when when it affects my taxes or my health care but from a legal perspective is donna right in terms of this is a short term win in terms of how people feel about it i think it's a short term win not only from a legal perspective but also from a political perspective when the major indictment comes out here which it looks like it's going to when you have a conspiracy between the trunk campaign and the russian government to throw the election to donald trump as mr flynn's own style is there a way out right and you have all of this evidence now coming out across the board going from april to june to july to august and you know that the conversation between flint and kislyak related to this conspiracy even though it happened after the election you know that there's got to be a major indictment coming out when that comes out and it pinpoints that the people in the campaign were conspiring with the russian government the whole thing change one thing you're missing and i think people haven't talked about enough is you're hearing in the conservative base world said we should if they are that would be a red line trump doesn't have to do that the band and world is actually saying get congress to defund it because they can't do their investigation if they don't have the money to fund it and that's their sly way of trying to do it and you're going to see it was not a rogue actor you know in the campaign like the white house has presented to him but that he communicated with other senior member according to the new york times so this is this is interesting the spin the white house has put on mike flynn's role is falling apart touch with other senior members of the transition before and after he spoke with russian ambassador sergei kislyak about u s sanctions that includes a december twenty ninth e mail sent from transition adviser k relations with russia which is just thrown us a election to him it is unclear if mcfarlane was saying she believes the election was thrown out though kind of looks like that according to the times thomas boss or another not to discuss sanctions internally going on to say the presidential transition guide specifically encourages contact with outreach to foreign dignitaries defended mcfarland's email telling n b c that she was relatively new to the team and at this point was simply referring to democratic argument michael schmidt is that what it looks like when you look at the details surrounding the reporting it's not entirely clear what she was really clearly say whether this is what she believes or what obama is trying to do nevertheless whatever it is it shows how closely the transition was monitoring the issue of sanctions and how much they were focused on fl upcoming call with they were afraid that this would start this cycle where russia would retaliate and who would stop whatever momentum the the incoming transition team was going to have with russia to build a new they thought their russia could unlock all of these problems that they knew that they were going to have with syria with north korea and such so they were very concentrated on stopping russia from doing anything more in response to obama you know this point but if it wasn't a big deal if this is what they were supposed to do who if this is what transition manuals that you're supposed to do why did they lie why did every single one of them lie about their contacts with russia it's the big question of the heart of this investigation and why so many contacts with so many different people who are directly or slightly connected to kremlin interests over the course of many months a meeting at the seychelles of meeting at the n r a conference  beginning at some towers there is so many layers to this right it's so thick with discussion and i can't understand it maybe david can tell us more about this it seems like an awful lot of focus on one country and the one set of issues yes it's a big and morning country a lot of problems russia but they were extraordinarily focused on this question of sanctions and everything else flowing from it and one question you wonder is are they worried about you know russia imposing sanctions back or doing something else that might impact their own interests here in the u s donald trump's own interests yes exactly david has anybody come forward and said well because it would be a perfect defense well of course we talk to the russians but look at all these times i talked to the ambassador to luxembourg argentina who just don't find it and of course i'm being facetious there but you don't find these contacts with china hu geopolitically is easily the most important worry underwear or early a for joining me today i'm david the bruce this has bad creative good or we take a look at all things in the creative commons see an extent