first item tonight is community comment i'm just going to take a quick tour here with the community out there and just would raise your hand how many people here we got regarding the school calendar one is that everyone is there anybody here for an issue other than the school calendar something other than ok so why don't we start with you right before we get to the comments regarding the school calendar i do want to make a brief statement about the approved twenty to fifteen c sixty yes new calendar which included the two hour with the daily star we also set all praise understand that providing professional development during the school day is a state right requirement that is a challenging change for everyone i district excited to fulfill this obligation by using the time to work on topics like personally learning plans for fish and sea based graduation requirements accordingly it was decided that the race that once a month are on the second wednesday was the best way to balance the needs of our parents students teachers and administrators well in implementing the professional development requisite also after numerous discussions among i don't trust administrator says as well as having seen the rate start used in other districts with positive results the decision the reasons for using the late start with a narrow and district revealed to be the most advised to both effective and efficient way to balance the needs of everyone with the least at first impact moreover i want to say that i myself understand change is challenging and uncomfortable their schools and their ministries are asked by the school board in the communities we serve to be flexible and forward thinking in the face of a shifting landscape as they are tasked with educating children hence we all must be reflective in response of in how our school systems are meeting these new demand with these evolving standards we have to look at how to do how to do the schools in our specific supervisory position and position themselves in a way that is not if business as usual but responsive to these new standards please know where that there will always be some challenges complaints and criticism when change occurs times when an issue will arise that brings with a controversy and even criticism from those that do not know did not know or cannot know all the facts that surround a tough decision some will be justified some we based on lack of information in wonder provided communication in either case though complaints and criticism cannot be settled by being ignored that is why we responded in a very reasonable time to parents who contacted us directly as well as contacted us by email nonetheless while we had been and continue to be planning to do everything we can to make the adjustment to the calendar stress free recognizing that this change would cause some worry for parents we fail to communicate those planning efforts in a more productive and meaningful manner we should have publicized in a more effective manner the plants the school buildings would be open that preference would be served and that we also hope to provide limited busing all to ensure student wellbeing and reduce the impact on working parents who will have challenges with the delay again we take responsibility for this error that's later tonight the board will be discussing modifications to improve the new board's communication with the public and facilitate a method in which to avoid from happening again future communicated concerns that surround change in the coming months in future years we are confident that we will be predator prepared in our approaches and our communications so i thank you all for coming out and i thank you again for letting me speak a little bit about the calendar and now i would move on to the public comment to hear your voices as well as supporting the time that we need to address other school related matters tonight on our agenda so at this time we will take public comment i asked trying to keep your statements as brief as possible for the sake of time and that and if you would just sta name as well as where your community are from that would be beneficial so who would like to start first the very concern that the board is advice and less than thirty minutes after first seeing this new critter calendar approved by a wide margin during your discussion one board member asked what the purpose would be in delaying a vote was it to get more feedback from the community i believe that following this line of conversation could lead to a plan to use the three weeks between only to find out the power first of all what change would cause least stress for the few families of the late start and really really proposed although it is still less expensive than paying the professional staff are additional contracting it is not as financially efficient as releasing students early with no additional bus runs i hope moving forward you will take the time to truly great intentions and they appreciate all the work you do put into being on this board as a mom to two kids at richmond elementary i'm concerned about the fact that it's an early and rather to be the early and a great program by we we're just going to walk into that and think that we're going to get those parts to people in the morning and then bring them back in the afternoon i don't think that's an option so i really would like us to consider you know community and so it was very disappointing that you didn't do that and just do one more note from the meeting minutes when state employees are part of the community actually into the calendar two point zero several community input as an opportunity for you so i asked and we said it was approved but you didn't say is it impossible to change it so i say considering the feedback is this the best way to go disturbing and i think that's the thing it's going to be an emotionally charged situation is for every person here there's a new spike tempus out there that it's got discussed in this issue so you're seeing a very very small fraction unfortunately which the masses of come out to be there'd be more vigorous discussion i think that's really what we're looking for and i think god with all due respect yes i teach myself i teach college level i do understand that the need for those in service there is the things that nature i get put it's the discussion is sorely lacking appreciate the apologies of the second level really could be made to feel better about this but it's not just to situations for early or a way that i think does the only thing that everybody even the parents have to start goal but we can't do this without you so anybody who can come in late carpool do the things necessary come in late then we can achieve this goal kind of rather than dictating to the public and forgive me i don't mean to be crude but hold a follow up on the twenty fifteen sixteen school calendar decision anybody want to start off a conversation anybody back from the school board not the two hours that how it's a occurring is it's was decided among the superintendent were along with the administrators and that then the issue can be brought back to the board along with the second if someone w board chair and being in an elementary district i think that a lot of the concerns expressed are especially difficult for elementary arents i agree that john is trying to figure out a way to accommodate everybody's needs but i concur with the sentiment of dave and last that if we could bring this up for reconsideration in whatever means that robert rules allow us to be so that we could more thoroughly discuss i think it's very interesting that a neighboring supervisory union district has the early release and i would also like to know what the others supervisory unions in our region if they've had feedback similar to similar difficulties so i think a lot of really thoughtful feedback has come in asking us to reconsider recall john you saying that there were some you had some concerns about early release in terms of children who might not have you know there are some kids who are already enrolled  but there are some kids who there might not be arrangements for and why a lot also obviously is true in the morning and of things that kind of part of your thinking in making the recommendation for them for the much that morning versus afternoon that was that was upsetting to parents particularly parents of young children it wasn't so much it's a late start versus that said early dismissal it was in terms of the feedback that i concerns that we had we felt that in two words the late star in the morning we could make combinations of those kids the other piece was and there's places in my i mean there's negatives and  but some of the other key pieces were the last impact on direct instruction oh so early release can typically can be between two and a half hours depending on how the parsing words and  in three hours additionally the timing of the bus schedule one of the concerns i have also is that we might have some young children that are going home because of the way the timing is for the bus schedule at the end of the those are that was or some of the rationale from the administrators team and the discussions that we had around this to be honest so we didn't go out and engage teachers or over the last decade what they've been saying is we i need this time so consistently you know over ten years we don't have enough time to get some of the work that we need done in these to be consistent needs to be embedded in the school day and it has to be meaningful time so they want to invest their time where they think it's going to have the most purpose and for the administrators team words going to be the biggest bang for the buck and so as i mentioned there's there's there's positives and negatives to both of those are some of the pieces to to to have her delayed start that we fell media of potentially a better choice the other as the transportation system and the additional funds the transportation supervisors shared because you have people coming and going in those directions and literally we have some kids who get on the bus a quarter of seven in the morning so because of the fact that you have people going out there and starting in different places the impact on the budget is minimal and addition to that we think we can consolidate  one other piece i would share is that we're different then in some communities because right or transportation system is really interconnected so it's a pre k to twelve system so if you start trying to do something you know that is different you know song a two hour delayed start or early release it would really really complicate things and then we would be spending more money because we'd have to do some serious  so as i said there's there's positives and challenges to to both on and sort of trying to weigh those out i think one of the deciding factors for me is that i can support it is our administrative team was clear and said to me more than once john we can make this work we can accommodate people that this is a challenge you know what i feel bad about hope and i sincerely apologize for is that i misjudged the anxiety that it would have on people and i think probably because i live in washington last i live in waterbury and so few years ago so it was pretty something similar happened where they said that they were going to do  late starts and it was a it wasn't a community process so you know the ministries team and the board talked out and said we need to do this and there were people were pretty upset at the time and you know three or four years later you know i think we've been able to make adjustments and i have my wife and i both work and so we've had young children in that period of time so we we had to we've had to make some adjustments and so i really felt like this of the in our better option for parents but it was it was this i think that i really missed judge that for that i apologize  and the last thing that i want to do when i say this to the community is put more stress on people you know the world doesn't offer that and so the last thing i want to do is to contribute to that again is a pair of three  and my wife and i both work i understand the stresses that they can put on families and that was part of my deliberative process whether or not i could support one or the other i shared with the board last time we need the time phone call and every e mail and generally the response that i've received back is thank you and you know i feel better than i did and it seems like we can we we can make this work thank you john here one of the things to make you asked about some of the other configurations and doing some research some of the configurations are that the younger grades get an early release and the old agrees get a late start however you've got to have a transportation system that supports that so that model is out there and so we need feedback on whether or not that kind of an adjustment would just wreck havoc in other areas whether we could even do it with our transportation but the question is also if we if we reopen this subject that we have to know to what and now we've heard from everyone here who is upset about a delayed start if we open up a discussion and we reverse this will we get the same response in terms of just as many people would be upset about an early release so we have to kind of consider ok how much time would we spend garnering that and put you know what would this do in terms of making a decision for a calendar and when that calendar kevin i'll try to be preferred i look at it as there's two issues that are that are on the table here one is a process that the board followed to make this decision and then the decision itself so i  and allow the conversation to develop and if we have to table something i much rather table or schedule another meeting five days later and come back and talk about it then feel like we have to make a decision think you think we need more input on it still and i think the calendar changes like that should be done as part of budget development not right after the budget being developed because it is at the end of the d decision you know we want to try to find we're trying to find opportunities to do this professional development work without increasing cost because we already had improved budget next year and i think if we were looking at two years from now like if we approve the calendar of the last meeting we can we can look to make a change to the calendar you know what i want to you know we have school day the calendar changes and i think we've learned a lot as a board referred a lot of comments from the from the have us go immediately to voting on whether to reconsider an action let's step back a second why don't we consider having a committee and able king can participate in that with the assistance of the administration and convene a public forum something where we're not constrained by by the time that's in an agenda so that people can only make brief comments and where there can truly be some interaction back and forth and hopefully there's a cross section of people with different opinions there maybe involve are some of our staff and our ministers if we can i know everyone is busy and i don't want to add to their plates but see if there can be a more of a conversation about this and then have that committee report back to us at our next meeting and at that point decide do we want to do we want to change this calendar or not the committee will make a recommendation but instead of us in this context which still is one of limited discussion and that's of necessity because there are many things that the public needs us to finish on our agenda tonight and so we have to do those but it may be a way for us to to vet the concerns think about them in the thoughtful way and then bring a recommendation back to the sport and we don't have to table formally table the calendar to do that  understanding is we have to have that calendar finalized and at some point by the end of the school year and so i would suggest that they would just step back have a public forum with a committee give  people as much time doing gauge and go back and forth and brainstorm and follow up on scott's suggestion of seeing what people can bring to the table and then have a committee make or an indication so that would be the suggestion i make or obviously the maker and made a decision i think while it could have been made better it was a pretty substantial vote you know i think we need to move forward as much as we'd lose the communication i think the decision p e so i arrived late at the last meeting and felt like i missed the intro to this part and as the question was going on i was jotting down notes to questions and i had all kinds of concerns and i actually didn't vote it wasn't in the minutes but i didn't vote on the calendar at that point because i didn't feel like i hadn't been for me afterward and when i talk to john i have got my questions answered how are we going to make sure that our students are taken care of i guess and what i what i want to say is i didn't feel like it was appropriate to hijack a meeting because i was late i didn't feel like it was appropriate to review things that had already been said and not knowing what had been said i didn't feel comfortable going there again so that's my hesitation  so anyway so my questions were what's going on in other districts what are they doing and what's working well and what's not working well and after and how are we taking care of the kids after schools or whatever so anyway after i got the answers to those that what's being done in other districts isn't necessarily working well when their early release is at some schools and i'm sorry and late starts it others within the same district it doesn't work well for  teachers to be able to you know if you have an eighth grade teacher teaching algebra and a ninth grade teacher in two different schools teaching the same class you need to be able to have the same kind of development the staff development and  well our process was horrible and while i hope we don't do that again and very comfortable with the decision that we did come out with in the end so with our communication we can do better with a process we can do better but if you like the outcome turned out budget we have spent very little time developing our own process which is still one of the roles and responsibilities of the c d s you board which i was not familiar forward in order to make decisions that if properly gauge whatever constituency is appropriate that should be more concrete this is a prime example of process i don't see the harm so you know i would i would tend to go for a middle ground point i would make is that because i agree with with chip and michael we should take more time because perception is reality and if the perception is that you know our process was flawed we didn't do it properly we should endeavor to do it properly and that means getting more people involved including community comments and hearing what they have to say because they are certainly heard of you know move on your on if the motion was to move the calendar from approved to draft status that's all i wanted to say and once it is a draft status then these other pieces can take place versus removing a particular thing from it but just just wanted to get that out ok so i did i know we've got a calendar schedule here but i think we should probably talk about this one as long as it's needed but for for my close recommendation to have a study committee i think we should do that regardless of whether  motion passes or not like if it passes we've got the two hours in there i think there's still an opportunity to receive comment and tweak how we're going to react to that two hour delay if the motion sorry for the motion doesn't pass the motion does pas s then we should look at doing it in the future and cutting that if that's the right thing to do cut in that two hour delay at some point i think the calendar being in draft i feel like it's always in draft like the calendar this is the calendar until something happens or we have to change the calendar i think it semantics to call a draft i think i think what i'd like to do is see your vote on whether or not those two hour delay should be removed from the current calendar for next year if the board that and if we if we could just because well we'll see all of that goes but if we have people who are abstaining i think we should count the abstentions the so later with as much time allocated as needed to take public comment on calendar alternatives to provide information on part on calendar alternatives and report back to this work within a month some additional feedback from chris leopold they are the attorneys that we're we've used for some guidance we have to have new bylaws because we have a new cave in the sky running board which is what we're in right now this is not the mt mansfield modify board this is the chinese governing board and i took our own bylaws and i lined them with the articles of agreement for the triple m in the triple m it stipulates bylaws for the chimneys executive committee and the and that board of the red as i mentioned is new if you go to page two actually it's too such as tonight two members from huntington or at the meeting or within that institutes would each member have one go instead of two thirds because i believe it's always fractional really that's my  because there are two plausible interpretations one is that if if there are three people from huntington on the c s u board and only two of them show up that they each get two thirds of out just as if from any other community one of the members was absent the other members do not get to divide up that missing person's vote that would probably be my interpretation but i don't think it's a kind make any approval of the boy was right spending grants for next year and the expenses that are included in the chinese budget for next year and if you look  to new explain why you struck out the year why we have struck out the third to last arrow about hearing reports from the previous school year  at the top of page three there are a microcosm there are two school district boards so and then one says opt out of any policy applies to individual schools does that mean this  needed to move this and i so i just want to make sure that you you heard the reasons why we were moving this nigerian disagree did you hear the reasons why don't he i just want to make sure you heard i didn't understand the immensity those reasons are something that we've got to make sure that john is doing what we asked him to in getting to you in advance so you can peruse it and in advance so we are trying to make those efforts to make that happen as well and that so that was that we are doing that are approved by this party i have to get a waiver to state board of that because there are sections in this actually the whole document needs a waiver because it doesn't  it does not completely coincide with state statute however it's really important to understand that in vermont law the state board of ed has the authority and has provided waivers to supervisory unions around member to strip an organization of their governing body yes you can and if i may follow up with one more question and i also understand if if i go to the very end of this document that in the future it is still subject to amendment by this board if in our prop in our experience we learn that some of these provisions need to be changed depending on the changes we make that may also require a waiver by the state board and so on and that you know we can make anything work so we have until when to complete try to get stuck into your head in time and i believe john it's done now that i haven't i'm getting the impression tonight that he and even though we got to people ahead of time they haven't studied this until now with this board meeting and now they're starting to raise questions about it and i'm just trying for the sake of time in getting is is were are we on the on the board here in regards to that first because i'm just trying to get the you know we are all right gender needs to move along so for me personally i find going over it helpful it's not really you know so that would be my preference but that's why i was asking what where this so kevin going to soon know how we're going to follow the process  look i mean i just want to be honest i put a lot of time and effort into this i tried to get it out early to folks i heard which he said the last meeting and i really did my best to get it out early i tried to incorporate the comments that i received  i'm happy to make any additions that you want i just want you to understand that this will really require a waiver of the state board of ed it's not we don't have to approve it tonight but we will have to at some time so i just i don't want any misunderstanding about the process or what i did i talked to the tourney on several occasions about this  i sent it to the a a we and i talked to the a we so i mean i've tried to put together a good document for you folks i would love to hear if you have feedback but i don't i don't think we need to write paragraphs i if you tell me what you want in there i'll put it in so just say on that so i think yes seems like we're spending a lot of time talking about a process and if we had just taken the doctor that we had already studied and just said ok let's discuss one to three people who we could very efficiently get through it rather than talking about you know why we should be more efficient why should why we should do our homework it seems like we're spending a lot of times family else instead of actual talk about the doctor and here's mine is make it and i'm going to put on my i'm trying to get through the agenda as well and i believe that john did what we asked him to do be i'm hoping that will start in trusting what we've asked to be done to be done and not every time that it comes back to start questioning some more and that has indicated that says right at the back we can change this at any time we want together we will be we'll cut back on a lot of some of the agenda items and that that's what i'm just trying to to get that's all so i misunderstood by beside understood when we talked about this board forming that we were going to try to be more and trusting of our superintendent in the in the work there maybe i took that a little farther than i thought that was so we can pull back and  you want every day all the documents to come through if you want to vet it at the meeting i understand that and i will make sure that the agenda reflects that the number of items that we put on there questions or comments what i'm hoping is that we'd be able to come to some consensus around what you want and what you don't want so that i can add it in and get a clean document for folks so early one is there any yes just to specifically answer the question though it is legal to have waited voting provided that the state department of education through the secretary grants a waiver and that and that was part of the articles of the of the voluntary merger that were presented and approved by the secretary am i'm remembering correctly absolutely ok so the legal the only legal question is whether one has to provide under what has been submitted already to two votes even if only two people show up from twenty ten and query whether that has to be the same treatment to any other communities elected representatives were not everyone shows up constantly is perfect from my perspective and i would point out that if there is a reapportionment of seats but that will require different numbers being elected from different communities so there will be a number of things that w ill have to change and including updating our bylaws that point doesn't say that somewhere in what you just well actually the first sentence i think makes does it because it says it is and with the change to currently it will read accurately because the first sentence says use is weighted voting on supervisory union business the referent is elected from huntington town school district shall have a fractional vote they wrote equals the number of representatives from the community on the board so if that changes from two to three one or seven i think that sentence would cover you especially with a change to currently which i think is it is elegant so it works  specific about the board officers the officers specify what if that is would be accurate i guess part of that will depend on two thirds you know what or if there are two people is so i could add that in if one of the things to concern you know one of the things we had done before was it was when we had the m m u was to consider it wouldn't be considered a quorum unless there was at least one and then you remember i mean i don't know if we need to specify that because assigning tend to make it in to ensure that they have a minimum number to call it before from just their representation is that what you are thinking yeah i was again not a big deal but i was just concerned it just seemed odd to me that the superintendent would have the authority to call a meeting of the committee on their own i think he the question i have is why is the superintendent club here on their own as opposed to consulting any of the other folks so you know if the superdelegates using that authority that's still out of here that means that the chair of the committee doesn't want to have the the other way that you know he would say i can't make this decision until like you're on the committee i'd like to make sure that the committee needs so that i have guidance on this so i think that's how i've interpreted it and i just was like that's fine he's not making the really a c s u committee finance there are two different budgets one is allocated to three of them one is just three zero so i'm looking at this in two different ways one is to get a draft that the state board of education can approve because there are changes in it that are different than statute and then there's other pieces that we may want to add in that don't need a legal permission that we could still add in at our annual meeting and i write about that so that we don't have to have that we don't have to finesse all of that we do have to finesse the parts that are a change from statute to think of is we should make sure that this is only the stuff works or critically the stuff that we need to get the waiver for not just ending that violence are really important and should be really important to us and we want to spend our time on them but we can do some of that after work i actually don't know what we need to get the labor force so we're going to think that was all about the membership honestly that was all about the membership and i really yeah and that's a different from the statute and whether or not we have isn't perfect but it gets to the those pieces that need to be approved i think we could move it as a draft and that's what i was looking for and then plan on giving it due diligence technically i think we could change these whenever we want with the dance notice whether vance noticed but i'm assuming that we're trying to get basic stuff in  not this governing board but the triplane board about how they were how they're going to govern and what the committee structure was going to be and so by statute if there's a supervisory and that work transportation  know what the executive board it done over the last several years as they took over some of those committee responsibilities but you get the finance committee and you have any committee you want to do these we do have and we know it exists gets a couple sentences in there in the can we do that now to learn you can't michael so i'm going to make a motion i'd like with your indulgence to to explain it assuming that i get a second i'm going to move that we adopt the bylaws as as they have been amended by the committee discussion tonight without the addition of any other committees and hoping i can get a second then i can explain my rationale for why we  should here's my rationale we do not have control over the calendar of the state whether it's the board of education or where the agency of education we do have a legal requirement to be up and running and a supervisory union and that requires us to have bylaws that have been approved by the state i would prefer that instead of us making the perfect the enemy  good or alternatively delaying our decision and recognizing that there's risk of delaying that that we may not get it on the agenda but would they not have may not have time to deal with us and we might be left in limbo for some period of time i would prefer us to adopt the bylaws and recognize that we at times in the future may have to amend these whether it's to add at the particular committees or more explanation revisions as experience teaches us but we're we are on a relatively tight deadline for state approval these have been vetted by this board they have been vetted by the by legal counsel and i'm comfortable enough with them going forward and also comfortable with their authority that i'd say let's get these done for the night understand that we may have to revisit some of these issues later i add to that so other motions out there we have a second there's a further discussion on the motion right hearing that all those in favor the motion signify by saying i i like to post the motion carriers right rescind or in other words they're in the discussion phase and so you are being sort of warned at this meeting for adoption after the next meeting good men for one two three four five six seven eight nine ten pol more policies to be rescinded but these policies have been shown to you through a document that we sent out that had the rationale for why each one needed to be rescinded and we talked about them having dates that were over ten years old or probably a couple of months ago we started that out saying that there's a whole bunch of policies out there and also they were and are on our policy development website but the policy is i can go equivalence among the schools and staffing and the provision of curricular materials and instructional supplies students in all schools shall be eligible for comparable programs and supplemental supports the superintendent for his or her designat stopper we were already ahead of the game because we're going out on a single district wide salary schedule for all of our multiple district school we had to begin with and there are any questions about this policy and a discussion on the questions additional changes three elementary schools we're now changing it so that we have one person doing the accounts payable one person will be doing the payroll we'll have one person responsible for the general ledger of a transition period as we're down one staff person do it every time and so some of the rules have changed just in the last week or so as we as we move towards july one and changing what happens finance manual they will go in more detail as to the process and procedure of each line item and give a little bit more detail perhaps get a lot more involved with definitions so it's clear as to what each line item is going to be trying to accomplish up and submitting this as we go forward into the new year i know they were awaiting some feedback from both the agency of education and the department and the orders department there were some questions o n the form so the maybe a few changes possible as they get towards finalizing it and it will be an item that we will certify and have to submit in the near future  you if your memory and hardware have a uncovered the embezzlement that was occurring there is when the person i don't remember was sick leave or vacation but they went for an extended period of time and when someone else filled in for them that's when they discovered the because it has a different meaning if you do ask for certain documentation or procedures that we do provide them every year related to you know approaches saying recording things that we buy now as we move into a new entity things that we're going to be doing continuing to thanks bob ok pre shared you being here tonight a little additional cost because of the routes that we have in little bit of detail i tried to give you prior to the meeting on the bylaws which we were able to few details about the food service programs great now we have principles that both campuses that are working with kitchen staff gathering ideas for what a unified system would look so if you do get questions about the food service program we haven't made any decisions on what it's going to exactly look but what we do know is that we're going to unify the programs and that we are not marked balling any kitchens or closing any kitchens and that we are committed to some of the initiatives horton told local schools over the last several years ideas and looking at how we can be more efficient in our staffing and our schedule and in our purchasing we are going to be hiring a head of maintenance for both campuses  and reassigning some job duties to the people that are currently there i won't read through preschool or some of that in there for you folks much of it is similar to what i shared with you last month where i'm good track very good track to be able to expand some of our offering from support families and finding preschool programs using the vouchers that will be available to us in rolling as many students as we can request f some families that are going to need that we're working with them to make sure they can access  been able to provide and they're really working with us around how we might be able to provide a whole day program for students here and so that would be good for students obviously and would be advantageous to families as well school you know right now they've got there they've got a lot of work to do just there but we you know we we may look at that in the future i'm sure we will see if it's viable  do it all on one of the things i've realized around communication is specifically is we're moving through this new governance structure that it's really critical and that we need to put more focus resolving or at least being really proactive around any communication issues that we do have and what i'm planning on doing is using some of our transitional dollars on from four forum one around just presenting information but not getting into to this silly debate looking at things like high pass videos short ones and getting in the local papers leaves we might want to just do some outreach to families and give them an avenue to ask questions and get those questions answered now one of the things that i would be wanting to do is i think you know hopefully working with john and the andrew around that communication to make sure that it's hasn't worked perspective to it to  respective to to it as well community member perspective i think that's very very critical we get to have certainly made let's try to be open minded but you know when i'm at work i mean we're growing all day and so my world for you know sometimes ten fifteen sixteen hours is this and so it's really i think it's very important to have to make sure that we have some eyes looking at to give different perspectives i think that's really important so that's my plan with the occasion and that's that's also a whole in her place i think with some of the some governance is that it i will be really wanting to work with some board members of particularly those three that i talked with a bell with making sure that we're doing this in fact in the way we went to a policy the meeting and useful was there were board members there they're implementing policy governance so being able to ask them questions about how they did it you know what were some of the growing pains is it working section then here and this is a part of governing is is does the board want to consider a consent agenda you know having a timeframe on the board agenda  and setting for agenda items you know certain parameters around time and then you know really what you want to superintendents report you know i'm putting these together based on you know what i think you're going to you want or what you might find useful in your work but you know i wanted to be important and useful you so you know i think these twice a month to put something like this together can be a little bit challenging but you know i will try to make sure that i have a detailed report for you you know do you want to once a month twice a month it's up to want to e mail you and get clarification right is that something that you want to encourage that we get clarification before we come to the meetings about whatever we don't understand it seems you never have a question you call me or you can contact me  surprises you know so i don't want you to be surprised when somebody calls you on the phone right if you see something in the paper and so i'm going to try to avoid that with the superintendent well i mean i i mean i think that's part of the communication piece of those type combat is that we want to have that's a different communication and the communication with the board and you know i'm committed to an confidence that we can do a really good job with it but it has to be a focus n the place now to talk to express those would be your senators but i do want to mention that another bill h seventy six which is the no strike no imposition bill is headed to the house floor that we might have a situation in vermont that would mirror the most of the rest of the country which is prohibiting strikes and prohibiting it imposition of contracts and having a different process to resolve contract disputes that go on too long so if you have not read it over that bill knowing that it's going to the floor tomorrow work you do have an opinion about it getting that opinion to your representative would be key right now this is a political obviously it's a political hot potato and one nobody likes strikes and nobody wants to go where we have gone before with imposition and with strikes certainly in our district it just leaves waves you know ramifications for ever people are reluctant to touch it but our representatives need to hear from us if you feel strongly one way or another not to tell you which way they feel that to to say that this is the time to express that they will be voting tomorrow or having presented tomorrow i'm not i don't think i need to take up your time did you have any questions for the communications that you've you've received and did you want to speak at all to any of your concerns about the caps or well i mean i the concerns they have there's going to be no exemptions as far as i can tell us this point before configurations such as the one we've already established in the sixty one so i'm really not sure how it's going to end up in terms of the caps or in terms of any kind of breaks because no rewards for us having done the work already so yeah we're leaving him executive session at the end of this meeting policy the only other thing is at some point for july we have to decide our membership for the new policy committee configuration i don't think we need to discuss it now but it's one of those things i would like to discuss to figure out what we want to do for representation between us and huntington before july first you have a framework in mind few people  possible to start but i did hear what other people think like a you know i three or four person group because that's the hammering out of the actual wording and word smithing and you know too many people sometimes it just gets owners to get a meeting together and people are going to get burnt out being on committees so you know i was hoping for maybe a three person committee one from huntington two from here call it done because  blog i think good communication so i just just to say i was i went through this policy coverage thing and i know you probably want to feel it but i was against it before i went to this training and very much for it now with one  we haven't heard we saw we saw it working in some places that were small board single towns we haven't seen this as persian down how it works with the bigger board and we do have somebody that we can talk to and i guess my my recommendation would be to invite somebody from and it's you who's doing policy governance if we want to go forward with it and talk to them about it or have them present to us just what you know how much time you guess my devote to it tonight but that's just kind of our so i move that we go into executive session for the purpose of discussion negotiations in the goetia strategies after we specifically find that square issue of negotiations and strategy in public session would place the district at a substantial disadvantage in the negotiations second and we also need to and we need to go on for personality and i would add i would add personnel to that as being for the same reasons and the same specific