well as our committee secretary pauline martins before we begin i like to ask anyone who would like to testify to please sign up at the lobby we'll have three minutes to testify on today's agenda items only when you come to the podium please state your name and or in which you represent i'm going to go and check in with their district offices in hot office are you there aloha my name is patricia hoskins i'm going to be talking about a r ten so this is when you want me to speak before any of the motions have been discussed ok my name is patricia hoskins i'm a senior aged resident of maui county living in ky hay full time since two thousand and nine and only in since two thousand and five i am a retired chemistry and biology teacher with a masters degree and was biology with my research being done  botany i am asking you to adopt the maui county planting plan third edition it is a serious well written and organized work by ernest francis a respected and knowledgeable arborist it is a fabulous work which will help concerned citizens who want to know what to plant on their property and guide the developers to do choose landscaping companies which promotes sustainable use of our valuable land thank you but you must ask unfortunately many of our wonderful old growth trees and other plantings have been destroyed to make way for development groups such as maui great and beautiful have worked hard to save our tropical paradise by nurturing our gardens and advising developers and landscapers and the best practices for prison preservation and future planning we are writing in support of the new county planting guide prepared by mary green a beautiful with ernie rentis as its main author we all realize our good fortune  having his expertise in efforts to help with this task this is the third edition of the plan it has been expanded and approved it will be invaluable for our future development please give your approval and acceptance of the guide we are the first in the state to document that has great value for for the citizens of maui and also for people who are developing projects though that they know the proper is to implement a lot of the stuff that they're tasked with and i'm very happy to support this this planting plan and that's basically it thank you very much mr hockey is there any questions from the members  very much for your testimony next testify or it will be elaine molina followed by gene  an former member of the maui county arborist committee i prepared something to read i thank you all for your time on this to coney should be proud that we have such a document the first in the state now we have an update at one that includes so much more i was introduced to the mc p p s recall that when i was serving in the maui county arborist committee i've used a lot in my profession in the landscape kept at my car i know a lot of my friends that ar and landscape people keep in their trucks so that my copy is pretty dead and we green and beautiful we do and formally maumee outdoor circle we do share the information that's in the plan with the community i urge you all to adopt the proposed resolution without any more further revisions why because mr ernest resents has taken such a remarkable and hard working journey to update the smiley county planting plan the plan of the maui count departments have already associate with the documents have already commented on the revision i know mr resents has taken each suggestion seriously and researched and changed where necessary many knowledgeable individuals and organizations have contributed contributed to this document also i've attended many maui county arborist meetings as a community member now and have seen the hard work and seriousness that each of these volunteers of the committee who are tree educator has worked with mr resents to complete this document county is sixteen we lucky to have one of the top three experts in the state our very own ernest resents who recently reviewed received the international recognition for his works and contributions and arbor culture by the international society of our culture as a recipient of the true professional cultural ladder arbuckle sure it's their award this or august at their conference in florida i have three final statements to make please have this revised edition adopted stay without further revisions with the document molly county is making it's known that the urban forest is important the value of trees is important to the community economically and culturally and county would continue to be a leading example of doing what is best for the people of maui now and for future generations to benefit from a well care for and protected urban forest thirty seconds  publication has been you so much by professionals in the landscape industry architects landscape architects developers and planners a it would be used more by the community if it was promoted more and i hope that happens in maine more available thank you so much for your time good afternoon sharon members my name is jordan hart and the president of chris arden partners we are a landscape architecture and land use planning for i'm here to testify in support of the a planting plan i think that the new update of the planting pine is fantastic i think it's thorough and well organized it's gone through agency review i know that ernie and bob and others have done a lot of research to back the information that's provided there and i just want to urge the council to provide positive comments and so that the plan can proceed to a public hearing in adoption thank you thank you members any follow up questions see no thank you very much mr hart the next testifier is jean  aloha my name is jean bizarrely i am currently a member of the county operates committee but i'm here to testify on my own behalf normally i'm a professor at the university of hawaii maui college every plant that you soul is your legacy for the future of maui and for our planet every breath of oxygen that you take comes from a plant that is growing tree butchered the producer of oxygen gets reduced there is less oxygen produce and much less shade to lower our searing temperatures one shady tree in a parking lot not only we do says the heat under its crown it also reduces the ambient temperatures and research has shown that shady parking lots increased sales as shoppers delight in the coolness and the shade maui county is forit by recognizing the importance of planting trees in parking lots and by treaty lining our streets and neighborhoods how best to take care of our trees is the topic of much discussion and believe me ernie the county our press committee we have all spent hours this many minds many experience growers and many experience operates have contributed to this planting it's like if you go to a doctor and the doctor prescribes a serious operation the next thing you do is go to it not the doctor and make sure that the consensus is there and i would like to say this planting plan is the consensus of many minds that have trudeau put this for a long time it fix perience brought on by the leadership of ernie who is certainly our mentor we have put together this recipe for the selection in caring of our trees right here in maui county con is there anyone wishing to testify knowing your wife oh thank you ladies members without objections i would like to close public testimony thank you turning your attention to the first item on today's agenda e r thirty four the committee is in receipt of miscellaneous communication dated may twenty eighth two thousand and fifteen from the county clerk reporting that on may twenty sixth two thousand and fifteen the council referred the matter relating to open space natural resources cultural resources and scenic views preservation fund members today we will continue our review on the open space find in two parts first with the members of the administration and secondly with a panel represent representing those who have worked to acquire lands in maui county for preservation purposes including the i believe that we have questions that i had posed in writing first of all i'll state those questions just to refresh the members of memory i believe it was regarding the four grant recipients the annual our quarterly report submitted to the mayor's office pursuant to the grant agreement including management plans a description of the mayor's grant proposal review process including the consideration of criteria for selections and a copy of any forms used for those purposes a copy of the of the conservation easement recorded in favor of the county and description of all post acquisition monitoring of the use of the property to insure its comports with preservation purposes also for the county acquisitions that was the second process in acquiring these type lands in number one was a description of the process to the mayor's office to review and selection of properties to be acquired with the fund including the make up of the administration acquisition acquisition committee number two a description of any mechanism for public import input regarding property selection  any plan to use and acquisition as a part identification of the department responsible for maintaining each property and any administrative rules or policies to ensure the property is maintained for preservation purposes pretty significant amount of research so i'll start i've started collecting them reach those different organizations and will provide you with with further information later regarding the responses i can give some verbal  basically for them from the county's perspective since we came into office in two thousand and eleven we've had the way the process that we've followed is that requests for use of the fund from outside organizations community land trusts or other organizations go through our environmental coordinator mr rob parsons he will collect their grant application i review the grant application for its applicability to chapter three point eight and then annual budget or as a budget amendment down to council for further action as far as public input at this point the public in puts that i received would be at the council activity you know during during the council's public hearing  the public will be provided an opportunity through your processes to review the purchase of the grant agreement and be able to provide comments on that at the council level  their website has some further information about that as well and for the county acquisitions a description of the process in the mayor's office for review and selection of properties to be acquired is fairly similar you know  for a budget amendment and then that gets reviewed at the council level public and it's provided at that point and then actions taken after that the most recent example of that was a  purchased so and we're currently working with the organizations one of them you have at the table here to develop a long term maintenance and monitoring plan been under is in place at this point and there are no adopted administrative rules regarding this fund the th process of selecting and using the open space fund i'm going to open up the floor for any questions you may have to the administration at this time  think i'm hoping to get it done by october fifteenth that's the extension that i requested to have you know give me a few weeks to work on it as far as what is being expended from the fund that report was provided by director i guess logan is august tenth reports you can see the balance of the was mention about what they would call the green printing which is a process involving the community collaboration to develop a plan for meeting a local and regional conservation priorities and creating strategies for protecting those places with interested landowners we were we actually had planned for today way hong who is the executive director for the trust for public land to present here and actually give us more information on the green printing process i believe the other jerks jurisdictions in the state also have that type of  or methodology or plan in place unfortunately she had called a few hours ago and had some personal issues that she could not make the flight over but  moving forward we will go ahead and fight her back again at the next meeting and that will give mr boss plenty of opportunity to coordinate and respond to our questions that we posed to him today that we have currently on the panel that can discuss their experience in dealing with the county and the open space find as we have seville up and he's from k out e co from hunted district office which is our first time that we've ever had this type of technology on the floor scott crawford has served as a secretary since its founding in two thousand and six and in two thousand and four was involved in the effort to purchase the property and have a transfer to the county scott's wife is also a lineal descendant of the area and is a recent no mamu is also a recent also is the president and executive director of the five hundred one c three nonprofit save honolulu coalition since two thousand and nine she has been involved in acquiring funds for the loophole point project in two thousand and fourteen so i'm going to turn the floor over to our representatives that have worked with the different entities in how clement share their experience  dealing with the open space fund and the county and if they can provide the committee any recommendations or concerns thank you mr so the law you may start first if you'd like the time i believe it was two thousand and six when the plans for development were first announced as part of the general plan process the community that i live in the county and the global community were mostly against those plans for development in two thousand in saving we formed the c one a l testify in support of a resolution put forward by ben council member joanne johnson in support of acquiring land that the testimony lasted pretty much all way and in response to the community's concerns they wanted to show that they supported the people who supported preservation of this land and when you are trying to acquire open species each area that you acquire has its own sets of challenges and opportunities and at that time it wasn't known how much the land would cost i wasn't known if the land was for sale there were so much unknown that the council supporting putting aside one million dollars towards open space  fund made a huge difference to our community that supported preserving this land many of us it was the first time we had ever been to the council building it was the first time we had ever testified  as the first time we even heard what a council member was and the commitment by the sitting council to air mark one million dollars of open space funds was a message that they had heard  the commitment that was shown to i was met by a commitment to follow through and not just walk away from the million dollars it was that important to us that we stuck with it for the past eight years trying all different to acquire them and finally call me twenty thirteen each b i believe is fifteen twenty four passing the governor shining and on october ninth two thousand and fourteen the general bon obligations were p to milan in pine and for twenty million dollars none of which actually ended up being colony open space funds two hundred forty four eaker is at home alone was acquired so even though the one million dollars earmarked wasn't used for the purchase i would say it was a significant factor in eventually acquiring the lines not having experience in how these things are done it gave our board our community a sense of  important in a million dollars you just don't walk away from it and in the end i really feel that the county didn't lose anything by earmarking that one million dollars because the month million dollars is still there to this day it's not like we had it in an account american seedings it's not like it wasn't earning interest it was a motivational and inspirational piece of the whole picture  that in general when acquiring an open space for government agencies you want to have a long term me management plan before you're going to say yeah we're going to put money towards this issue but most people that work towards open species acquisition are doing so purely out of passion there's no profit involved there's no income involved it's hours and years of your own work and to try and put together a management plan for a land that you don't own is very difficult knowing that home in the way such a used area that thousands of people do go to it we had at one time approached milan and  work on a management plan in the answer i got from the then land manager was you can't make a plan for somebody else's land but at the time thousands of people were going there and there was no plan for manage me you know we started at the most basic level of providing port a potty providing sign each and even that we had to fight for two years to get the permit to provide port a potties so fast forward to this day when the land has been acquired we have a commitment from private donors to pledge up to one hundred tonne in dollars for professional long term sustainable management planning we're at the point right now where we need the state to agree to abide by what the community based sustainable management planning puts out or these donors don't wanna put out the money so it's you can put all of these  constraints that you need this in this in this to occur but open species so valuable at this point the minority of people say they don't want to turn into or when you talk to people in if you don't preserve open space that's what will happen mali will become a wahoo and you can't pigeonhole the way that you acquire open species it doesn't always fit a certain criteria it depends on the landowner it depends on the community it depends on the land itself so i think by any means available you should allow folks to acquire open city thank you and your tomorrow in terms of your experience you know the why we're here in the committee discussing this matter for the use of this open space to find is we really do need to look at other jurisdictions where they have what you call green printing which is a developed plan for meeting local and regional conservation priorities and creating strategies for protecting those places and lands so currently we don't have a type of plan in the county and so we're looking at different ways to improve our process that we go through currently it only seems like it's a reactive process turned budget and we're trying to get the opinion  experience from those entities that have experienced some wanting to acquire property in working with the county so just hearing from you and from your group saying that just you're marking portions of the  und also is very helpful in leveraging with state funds so that's very very helpful thank you very much for coming today mr du savella if you could please share with the found out that that place was they wanted to develop that sixty four acres of waterfront property when we follow it that they wanted to develop that area the community caught up in arms with that whole project and because of the outrage and the concern the project was stop so when that stop we decided that at that time i was working with this agency called neighbor teach people needed values culture values and that was to help with abuse and neglect it families so we had a little strategy there that you know was important because the area we felt like we didn't want it to be developed so anyway the property owner said you know you can use you know so a couple of these acres to do you guys program and so we started doing the program in there and eventually  found out that  he went bankrupt because he was buying all kinds of property in my local in before you know it the market drop in two thousand and eight and so everything was going into foreclosure and the property was going into foreclosure we were afraid that his partner that was involved in him wanted to continue to develop the place and so that's when we started to go out and asked different organizations and i have to mention there is she was a big part of it at that time and so she and i went to different organizations like our own homelands and public lands for support now i didn't know much about all of this kind of stuff you know i was kind of broke it was really brand new to me but i was willing to like you know put out the effort part of the effort was because of my dad years ago saying that you know the property down there could be utilized by many people to like build more self sufficient because we knew what that property was was look at fishponds tell patches in that area so we knew what that the potential of that eric would be so anyway we went out and we reached out to just for public lands and they were the only organization that came forward and says hey you know we will listen to you guys and we will we want to work with you guys and lara carr quo or the person we got in touch to it and so they came we had a lot of meetings community meetings and stuff like that and as time went on you know the process was is because just about a glance you have like philanthropist money to buy properties and stuff like that but they also need matching funds so the whole idea was to go to the county and talk to  bars and you know they decided that ok we have you know several thousands of dollars to put in to help with the matching funds for the property and so we got that commitment from the county which was you know for agenda you know because we had to put it on the agenda for late because we were looking for monies we needed money to buy the property and so i called mike's office real quick kind  think you were on the council in mr white maybe not i can remember but anyway i know you guys are was in favor of it all and so i was really good you know when i hear that kind of stuff because for me open space is very valuable but anyway  what happened was is that we also had another plan because we felt like the developers in the foreclosure because we have to go to court for the foreclosure so there was a bid and what happened was the bank put out the b and they only bid out like eight hundred thousand dollars for sixty four acres of waterfront property and i was like well you know that's it and nobody else put a bid in i guess there was a strategy from both sides you know from whoever's going to wanted to develop it and from transfer public lan started holding up signs you know to discourage developers from coming in putting out of beer which it kind of worked i believe and so as time went on the next the next meeting we had property and there was several meetings that we had hearings on but eventually the council decided that that was a good deal because the deal was for nine hundred thousand dollars sixty four acres of property that's a great deal waterfront and if you look at where the is right now is a real beautiful area there are places where it lands you know can't be preserved that can be restored and so for me and community we feel that that's a really important area to to have been purchased by the county of moore and for me i had a great experience really with the county council at that time you know because i got more educated in how the process worked in and the thing is that what i find there is more to learn because of the management part and that's something that we were working on right now county sees us there but we're not like legally the stories of their property we understand we have to go to council eventually for it but we feel like what's important is that  we get all our ducks in a row what i mean by the management plan get that done first and then we come to you guys in we propose that to you guys so we understand that one thing that that i see is that only have so much space in this island and there's only so much space to see you know most of the the view is taken by hotels you know by the ocean and i think we have to be real careful with ocean front properties from now on i think any space that the colony can purchase for preservation is really really important and i for me i i i like but i think also what is going to be important to is if we do do that we have to see who will steward the area to also because you know we have to balance that you know we cannot just let anybody take over the property and you know things doesn't so it's a great experience i think there's more people that need to get involved in open space i hope you know of through this more or more people will be more active in coming out and supporting it i thank you very much mr so villa we actually appreciate you sharing your experience in our fact gathering where we're still trying to address the issue of developing a plan to prioritize the lands in our county that we can acquire through this open space find and you brought up a very good point is the long term management plans which what do we do with then you know how do we address those so these are issues that we we need to this community needs to look at as we move forward but i thank you for sharing your experience i'm going to turn our chance and we're going to sing one more thing too is that even like  you know because of that place is you know by the county we also have to take care of like you know who you know we have the homeless population two going in that area and so it's you know it's really members attention to the screen via video conferencing which is pretty pretty neat this is our first time that we've had this type of technology and i'm going to be introducing scott proffered as well as jean elliott from there and can you share with the committee your experience with working with the fund in working with the county regarding the property and also if you have any suggestions or recommendations to im again without the necessary information like this morning it's real difficult to really get into a long discussion and i'd like the other members to be here too i think that's very important but i will see one thing i got out of this is each one of you each one of these  projects had a different take on it different role which i think is important and i think you mentioned that there's no one size fits all mr bolton and i think i agree with you there's never going to be a one size fits all but the problem is we're trying to get everybody on the same page and so that we can prioritize because monies are not unlimited we worked hard to get the twenty million from the state to get one or had we not gotten that we still be battling to get enough money to get that so we were fortunate in that respect in your case we were to drill drill on the project because i mean the party right because they were in foreclosure and so we could play that game with them so we were lucky in that respect and in this case theory had a menial descend inside and a premise to get done so each one had it's real different approach to what we've accomplished open space so i would like to see the program that  limited resource and we have committed a lot of money for a lot of open spaces all over this county so we like to make sure that we do it the right way so i think all of you for your money now for your your and your efforts in your your st have taken ownership of i think that the challenge is it just briefly went through the green printing and that's very forward looking but as we heard in each of these three instances the purchases were a result of impending action for development so that the challenge for us and the community is to get out ahead of just reacting and being in a position of planning and i think that's that's probably the reason that this fund was started in the first place is to provide that kind of seed money and you know two percent of the  the real property tax collections and i would encourage us and our next budget timing to look at taking a portion of the t n t and adding that to the to the fund because it strikes me that over the last twenty some years we've been receiving t t that money just goes into the general fund and no one ever knows what it's paid for and i think a be really important for the community and for our visitors to see that the visitor dollars are working very hard to protect what's important not just to us but to visitors as well and you know instead of looking at funds a fun level that is somewhat when i say limited but in the overall scope of things it's pretty limited if you look at the fact that the t t has generated somewhere in the neighborhood of four hundred fifty million dollars and i don't think any of us can look at anything here on maui and say that was paid for by the visitors right and then but they've put four hundred fifty million in t eighty and probably closer to over a billion dollars in property tax and yet we can't say this is been preserved on behalf of the community paid for by visitor dollars and i'd like to see that happen because i think that would i our appreciation of what the visitors have contributed to to our preservation efforts so i want to thank all three organizations and thank you for bringing this up because i think it's something that all of us believe in and and need to that's the beauty of it mrs civility i i hope we can take care of the homeless families or people that are occupying such such lan in and what i can appreciate for those involved is the deep love for the land as far as keeping the open space but not just the open space the point the purpose was to preserve the pristine coastal land as well as all of the archaeological cultural sites so and then and then we identify all of the native plants and then it's it's it's come alive and now it's an educational place of education that  our children join in so it's not saved open space it's fully tells the story of who who we are ancestors  to to try and fun the saving of the open space we we resurrect you know i you know not necessarily renew but resurrect the story of our land because it sure feed us a spiritual experience as people of this land i i that's just my personal  but i'd like to go back to mr pause when he talked about the annual reports and not been able to find because i recall being involved in the open space monies  reports at least for our purchase was for the first three years and that was come that was submitted and then after that the finance i think if you look at the agreement the finance department submit  quarterly reports based on the and you reports that so i think those kind of follow and it comes at council i think we have a responsibility also it's like mr wade you know we have the monies and we really don't reports that's one of the issues that we spoke about last meeting you know i did write the letter to request and your parson apparently they can't find them but i guess they're in the process of researching that along with that is a long term management plans because that's what that will be indicated in the reports and whether they're following through with these long term management plans so i totally agree that's our that's our responsibility that we need to follow and do the follow up after the purchase of open space i would like to think everyone for participating in today's discussion i'm going to butt out objections members i will defer this matter for further continuance on the discussion on this subject matter communication twelve dash five from the director of parks and recreation transmitting a proposed bill to amend ordinance thirty seven thirty seven two thousand and ten relating to exceptional trees and maui county number two the correspondence dated september twenty second two thousand and fifteen from the department of corporation counsel transmitting a proposed bill in title the bill ford ordinance amending chapter twelve point two four eight of the maui county code relating to exceptional trees the purpose of the proposed county exceptional tree list and add certain requirements for the nomination of exceptional trees members in one thousand nine hundred five the why the legislature passed an exceptional tree act act one o five to protect trees deems deemed exceptional because they were truly trees stat they were trees standard grows of trees with historical or cultural value or that by reason of age rarity location size aesthetic quality or status is designated by the county arbors advisory committee as worthy of preservation and one nine hundred ninety maui county council added chapter twelve point two four eight the maui county code providing among other things procedures for the designation of exceptional trees in the county since that time the council has periodic lead doesn't need exceptional trees by amending the most current relevant ordinance to incorporate recommendations of the maui county  most recently on january sixteenth of this year this council and acted seven ordinances amending ordinance thirty seven thirty seven two thousand and ten to add or remove trees from the list of the process was cumbersome and as each bill was amended and exhibits to the ordinance was added on to thirty seven thirty seven which in itself amended exhibits to the original ordinance which was ordinance twenty forty one thousand nine hundred ninety one the  this will make the list easier to find and to amend as needed pursuant to the code procedures the proposed bill also adds requirements for nominations at sections twelve point two four eight point zero zero five b and c to help standardize the nomination submissions for from the arborist committee to the council and that makes non substantive revisions members as you can recall if you i think all three of you were on the last  position going through the minutes that was presented to us to find out the criteria so basically this ordinance also puts in criteria that the king and the arborists committee will have to submit a form and based on the form provide pictures and other relevant data that could be allowed to be very organized and presented to the committee and the council and so this is this ordinance of members is just basically cleaning house so that it can be more efficiently reviewed and implemented as we go forward and i just caught a fish some of  the things that we need to to to make things more efficient so do i'm going to go ahead and we have from the department on the part of the arborists themselves david secada you have any comments in regards amending chapter twelve point two four eight of the maui county code relating to exceptional trees incorporating any non substantive revisions and filing in the county communications twelve twelve dash five was moved by mr victory no second taken by mr white further discussion seeing none of those in favor say aye although suppose you know for eyes three excused motion carries relating to the maui county landscaping planting plan number two the county communication fifteen dash to fourteen from the director of parks and recreation transmitting a draft landscaping landscape planting plan in tiled maui county planting plan third edition number three correspond stated september twenty third two thousand and fifteen from myself transmitting a proposed resolution entitled providing comments on the draft maui county planting plan third edition the purpose of the proposed resolution is to probe provide comments on the draft maui county planting plant their decision member section twelve point two four eight point zero three zero c one requires the arborist committee to prepare for review by the mayor and council and landscape planting plan which serves as a guide for the care preservation pruning planting replanting removal and disposition of planted material and public areas today we have before us a long awaited update to the maui county landscaping planting plan originally adopted in one thousand nine hundred one the plan was revised only once before in one nine hundred ninety three section twelve point two four eight point zero four zero b requires the council to review the to review and comment on the plan there after the arborist committee must hold one public hearing then submit the plan with any amendments as approved by the committee to the mayor for his approval the plan takes effect upon approval by the mayor to explain the revised plan we have the chairperson of the arbors committee kimberl thayer who has here thank you and we also have past chair ernie resents who is also here that will make a presentation on the draft we also have jordan hart who is here as a resource person based on the fact that he was a former arbors committee chair and spent a lot of number of hours working on it and years working on it as well as his experience in landscaping development in his business as well  department i'm going to go ahead and turn over the floor to kimberly there for the presentation of the maui county planting plant thank you chair actually ernie is going to go first with an overview of the plan and what's got into it ok mr resent the floor is yours thank you very much  or not include any invasive species in the new document so we have had to work with the misc and how i presented a lead risk assessment protocol to eliminate invasive species  expanded upon and now it's feature in a separate chapter and not all intermingled with the other classes before and we have a fantastic alphabetical list all of those common names and scientific names of plants  one place so that makes it very easy to find that in the document now the committee did do some very minor changes and some tree heights and with one very few issues but for the most part all the heights and with off the second edition is in here edition now some people have question are changing the heights and whistled a few trees and made an issue of it and bob hobby and i together combined have about eighty years of local history of trees in hawaii and we feel that the minor tweaking that we did is justified and to substantiate our reasoning i wrote to a person named paul why is it mr wise it is a very well known and respected tree person and he was in charge of foster botanical garden and home and one a little for many years and i asked him about the on a certain number so in the third edition we don't have like maximum height a maximum width we should expect that mature height and expected mature with and the committee thought this was good because we are not god verbiage that's why you have a third edition you improve upon what you had previously now i'm not the sole person who worked on this document and it's taken me fifteen years or over four thousand dollars and it's a fantastic document the only one voice is kind of state of hawaii and you find that being used in other islands in hawaii and even i think they use it down there for some of their work and bob who was here earlier and i work for many hours and he is a fantastic resource person put up thomas who is now is on the mainland help me with the invasive species because of him we remove all the bases species and i work with misc and a wife is to read risk assessment and christine and my angel who typed it for me with i was using windows seven and that thing had a mind of its own and  would like to make some opening statements and then followed by mr hart so we have a powerpoint prepared to kind of take you guys through the content of the new plan and how it differs and has evolved from the second edition of the plan so again thank you very much for having us here today says been a very very long time coming with many many people and tears so we're very excited to be here today to present this to you so created following that state law with the duty of identifying and preserving exceptional trees however molly colony is the only county arborist committee in the state that resource for people to consult for a landscape planting projects on the island and the provisions in here and the guidelines in here are designed to foster healthy and vibrant environments  with a local sense of place that we all know and love it's why we live here it's why we are so happy here so we think of places like the banyan tree in la you know which is an exceptional tree under our exceptional tree program there's the right in front of call home on a church in front of this building that big giant monkey pod tree is in the exceptional tree program but there's also public spaces like beach park which everyone loves to hang out under because it's so nice and shady everyone has had a first birthday there but it's those kind of public spaces that this document is seeking to foster ok so the first is ition of the planting plan came out in september one thousand nine hundred ninety one it had a fairly limited scope covering street trees park trees and exceptional trees an interesting note is this was typed mimeographed and published in house thousand so the second edition applied to all county roads in parks essentially all county lands both public and private parking lots were touched upon five copies were given to the libraries and more recently the document has been put on line so this current version is available from our arborist committee website on the county websites but now twenty one years later we come to the third edition of the molly conti planting plan so time goes by you learn along the way there are things we know now about were not known at the time the second edition created particularly invasive species the importance of native species and then also the significance of parking lots the parking lot shade trees so in the past few years this third edition has been reviewed by many many agencies molly county departments including planning water supply parks and recreation and public works and court consul have all reviewed this document we've met with all the directors we've incorporated everyone's comments and adjust everyone's comments this is also been reviewed by landscape architects across the state as any mention before this is the only document of its kind in the state of hawaii so this is used by landscape professionals everywhere we've also gotten review from local landscape organizations the association of landscape professionals my green and beautiful have provided comments along with dozens of committee members and dedicated volunteers the information in here is updated for knowledge we have now expanded information and again this is a guy it's a resource for all interested people who will be doing planting in maui county so as in the second edition this is the things that have essentially remained the same so we still have objectives and policies setting out the vision of what this plan is designed to achieve  there is chapters on street trees there's a chapter on sound and visual barriers parking open space trees the exceptional tree program procedures and standards for planting and proper maintenance of trees over time turfgrass ingrown covers air geisha and water conservation and the native hawaiian and polynesian introduced plants so that content has carried over but no in the third edition we've incorporated a history of the arborist committee so this is explaining our roots to have a tree metaphor in here but the roots of why we are here we've also incorporated into the street tree chapter highway median trees because we have more and more of those nowadays with larger highways a chapter in itself on parking lot shade trees recognizing there's a  have shade trees in every parking lot and there is also expanded information in on the visual barriers sand barriers exceptional trees care and maintenance over time grown covers and then like i said native hawaiian and polynesian introduced species and in concert with all this is updates to all the species tables for suggestions of what should be planted in every place and all going to kind of more detail of some of the sections so like the previous plan species are kind of divided into four of the islands rather are divided into different planting  zones so there's all different microclimates in our islands because of the variation in elevation there's valleys there's ridges different rainfall in different parts so you're going to need a different plants in every place for them to grow well  so we have what areas dry areas high elevation low of ation so in essence using species plantings on preferred elevation you'll be able to find the right plant for the right place and have it girl well over time so there's a map like this for every island in the county  moving on there's a chapter for street trees so something new in this edition of the plan is that there's an emphasis on a mixture of tree types as opposed to just one single species all the way  down and a lot of this is because when you just have one type of tree if there is a pest that comes in it is going to wipe out your whole street or your whole parking lot or whatever you may have so if you have a variety you get a assortment but you also get some resistance to pest resistance to disease over time  so like i mentioned we've had updated planting tables and it's hard to see in this but there is scientific names for all the landscape professionals there's common names for all the lay people like any mention there's expected heights and expected spread which takes into account that the tree is not going to do as well in an urban environment even with all the care you're taking so for planning purposes it gives you a better idea of how the tree is going to grow there's also something nice in here is flower color water requirements whether the tree has knots or seeds that you might have to worry about maintenance wise that's often a concern  and then all of the planting zone so where on the island the species would be best to grow account nowadays more dry conditions and salt spray because that's a concern in more coastal areas with our high waves in action and salt does take a toll on plants and also the use of like recycled water  has a lot more salt in it that can affect plants also so for going to want to use more recycled water we're going to want to know which plants can handle that best  another critical chapter that is expanded in the third edition is proper pruning care and maintenance of trees so these provisions in here are all based on nationally and internationally recognised principles for proper pruning planting fertilization irrigation so if these principles are followed trees that are planted will girl healthier stronger fuller live longer  they'll become assets and not liabilities to everyone something new we've also included proper coconut pruning which is actually stems from one of the comments we received from the aloha arborists association there's pictures in here for all the visual learners diagramming proper planting staking support that calls for one large current shade tree for every five parking spaces but in developing this plan and something we see on the incoming to our committee all the time is that there is a lack of a definition of a large crown shade tree so it is required but it is not fully defined so that leads to problems which you will see so for example the monkey pod we all are familiar with is a large crunchy tree or a girl very big and wide and create a lot of shade however we get things like this so this stick poking up is a monkey po technically when you look at review the landscape planting fine it's going to specify a monkey pod you're going to check up the box that one was planted but when it grows like this does this still count as a shade tree again these are meant to be trees and parking lots and obviously there is very little shade we see this all over the place and one thing kind of interesting about this is that research has shown that when commercial centers have well shaded parking lots people stay longer and they shop more so it's better for everyone involved in neighborhoods with trees along streets you have happier people and simply healthier people when you have more shade more trees more greenery all around so above all this is the most this is the holy that we are attracted to that we love and for the natural beauty around us so in the parking lot she treat chapter there is discussed or is there set forth the goal of achieving twenty five percent shade coverage within parking lots so within a given parking lot a quarter of it will be covered by shade and because trees need time to grow there is a time frame of fifteen years to set for this and note that we will make is that we hope to be working with the council to create an ordinance that will achieve a higher degree of shade in parking lots and to encourage proper pruning so that those this doesn't happen anymore that we do get an a sheet everywhere trees again is one of the main core responsibilities of the committee so this chapter in the third edition of the planting plan is somewhat expanded beyond the second edition so there's a lot more information here  people that would be interested in nominating an exceptional tree on their property or on a friend's property or anywhere in the county so there's guidelines in here for what constitutes an exceptional tree the process to go through for a nomination for getting that approved because we'd like to encourage more of that there's a lot a lot a lot of trees on this county that are not on the exceptional tree list yet and hopefully we will have a lot more in the coming years  and again if all the principles in this plan are followed then we will have a lot more healthy trees that will grow through exceptional status over time last but not least we now in this third edition of the plan have dedicated chapters to native species and to invasive species so the second edition somewhat problematically in hindsight being twenty twenty the second edition included a number of invasive species in all those species tables for park trees or street trees and the thing with having its basis species planted anywhere is that so mali has a lot of micro climates that are very hospitable to species from around the world so generally anything can find a nice sweet niche in the environment to just take off  so all of that all these plants might be put in an urban environment they have fruits that birds eat and go poop in the mountains they're spores that are wind dispersed and at some point get into the mountains so there are species like strawberry g a that started as a landscaping plant that now covers thousands of acres in the mountain my cornea was a landscaping plant at one point australian tree fern is a landscaping plant that is now taking over the forcing koichi and we have it sprouting up over here some of the committee felt it very very important to take invasive species out of this book and so that was done with the help of the my invasive species committee consulting the pacific weed risk assessment those are all taken out now conversely as bad as invasive species are native species are just as good so there is a dedicated chapter for a native species and a discussion of their merits in this new plan so the thing about natives they're specifically adapted to our environment this is where they're from this is where they grow best they're ecologically significant birds want to take them into the mountains if they get spread by wind it's fine for good right there is only benefits that come of that there's also a cultural and traditional significance so one day instead of having to hike up in the mountains to gather flowers for a lay or for who you can go to the park and gather flowers over there so it's good for everyone involved but that is in essence that changes to this plan so if you have any questions we are here for you that you missed there we also we would have jordan hart give his perspective on the professional side of the landscaping in regards to this planting plan update of the planting plan is a long time coming i know that i served you know five years for a half years as chair in reviewing this and you know it consumed a full term so there's a lot of people that put in a lot of time in regards to  the landscape profession i think that the update to the planting plan is very well organized it's necessary i think that all the items that came covered are appropriate and just necessary progression of what we know now in comparison to what we knew have first of all from the department of parks who can you have any comment so you'd like to share with the committee only that i have been privy at different levels of support in the very hard work that has gone into this plan and it's such a joy to see it come to this point and i certainly hope that the council will see fit to send it on its way to in the presentation the big changes in the tree size expected mature crown spread and height for an example monkey pod has in the current plan one hundred fifty foot spread in the proposed plan it's eighty feet so one of the keys of of having a planting plan is it's a tool in designing what is going to be an appropriate tree or what a need for it to grow and we want these trees to reach their mature size because they provide the most benefits when they're mature so that was always a concern of mine and i've really had that to the committee and  they decided to stay with their proposed mature spreads and heights so could i just add that starting with a good document of course is what we would haul hope for and why you spend such time in developing ordinances and that sort of thing and then from the document in something that's recommended is the use of a certified arborist and the skill set that you heard today in support of that and that individual has the expertise to look at the soil conditions the complementary uses to what goes on for that tree and  itself so i think that having a broad interpretation was what committee was hopeful for and frankly even the whole process of invasive species was difficult for some because there are some individuals that love anything that's green and we got to a point where we lovingly called the other half the nature nazis so again this shows twenty members i'm going to open it up open up the phone for questions mr victory no first of all i want to thank all those involved especially you the arbors committee and you mr resents for your many years your sixty plus years of dedication to molly county in the areas of trees and what's important what what this really means to us all of this presentation today really gives us a clear view on what needs to be done and where we need to go i just came back from the east and you go to towns like feeley and boston it and new york you'd be surprised how many trees are plant that we neighborhoods are basically full of trees you know and so i believe this is something we need to continue to work at so this gives you the ground we're this gives us see the footing as i may call it to launch this program and to make it what i call palatable again the important things is native species drought tolerant species species that use as little water as possible i think this is very important and this is something we need to continue to consider and i'm glad to see that here mr chair i didn't we i don't any reason to make any changes i think this is one of those documents that i i can support and give them time to really show us what the reality of the plan is you know we won't know until a few years down the road how this all works out the concern i do have and i will not let this one goal is the fact that we need not only to put our money where malt is in a calm stool the trees we have out there we've had devastating losses many  awhile because they make the news but we have them here in my way which is pretty much nobody talks about where trees are actually rotting and falling luckily so far knock on wood we haven't caused much damage but there is that that problem out there the other thing is when we've had these heavy winds and storms right up in this kilani district you saw all the trees wiped out on the roadway and they came along and cut them all down i mean b c they're coming back now so i think we have to make sure whatever trees are put in for that particular area can resist when i think you've addressed it but when is a big factor here in maui more so than you have in the other counties and a consistent basis also so these are the concerns i have you've addressed some of them maybe in time we will have to look at i mean in future documents but i like native enough of this invasive species stuff that we've brought in we found nothing but problems don't see why we should make any revisions at this point i really think they put their heart and soul talk about passion like the other group this one has their passion and i'm excited to put our our our support behind of this or at least my support i want speak for my other members but i think i can get behind of this plan and really give them an opportunity and image to support agrees that you know this can work we just got to keep looking and making systemic you know else and you know i think you have continually brought shade to these chambers and i would you know i drive to the west  more times than i can count one of the most pleasant parts of that drive is through a wall that's true and those trees just provide a very different feel to to the experience and it it saddens me that we don't seem to be able to see your way clear to doing that in other places and i think part of it might be because many people have been convinced we don't have enough water we have enough water just a matter of transporting it and making a decision that we're going to use it for that purpose or use recycled water but i hope that this will help transform not just county highways but also state highways into tree lined avenues because as mr victoria said you go to the mainland and there are well thought out well planned well planted well manicured and healthy trees everywhere and it just makes it so much different of an environment so much different in experience and for people that that come here from other places to see that we've got barren roadways it's really kind of sad so i'm i'm excited to support this i do have a question on the parking lot trees because i have two questions one is is a monkey pardon base of species or not by a bird something and them occupy has very heavy seeds that fall to the ground and so they're not going to be beating them out here thank you thank you for that clarification i do note that on my way home  the other question i had with respect to parking lots is that i mean some of that for me in that you showed was pretty extreme but i think some people feel that by pruning their they're restricting the root growth the roots obviously disturb the pavement but i have a gas powered sweeper that cleans up under under our monkey pods and there they create tons and tons of trash so i think it would be really great if if you could come up with a the best parking lot tree that several trees in there but planted with good barriers so i think we should have a decrease in our damage to asphalt not going to be totally eliminated i think it would be decreased great we're trying our best to do the best  thank you chair thank you for bringing this in on today's agenda i do just automatically support such a it's a treasure thank you mr resents that and members i  totally totally respect whatever you document so there's no question and i i too find so much peace you know told by others and used to resent just reminded me that my doing deep irrigation dahlan and not out and that also prevents not only damage to pavement but damage t buildings and other pertinent structures close by so thank you very much for bringing that up because i think that's something that i would look to along with some of these other suggestions to introduce because i think this is where we've had the biggest problem is because said there but i think if we we make you know somebody swimming i think we have to make it mandatory or not mandatory but i highly recommend it because people then take the easy way out i think this is one of those areas where i think enough easy ways i'll maybe like mr white also said by using reeks that we clean water is another area that we can really push but the deep watering of the roots and drawing the roots down instead of well is really a the term in first elected and i guess the first committee was the only committee i actually could work with because it's the only one in parks and so i went to several meetings and of course i know jordan hart and his frustration is leaving the committee terming out as president and not having the appointing plan completed so i've been with them when the word processor broke down it and in the frustration of trying to get it through every department and so i'm so very very happy and and so proud and congratulations and kudos to the committee they've had to go through quite a bit to get that to get where it is sat right now i'd like to think can really thing there and he resents georget heart and all the other committee members that have turned out and not been able to see this come to fruition so at this time i am going to be you missed it you're all that's my recommendation is to as part of the exhibit one is to add that the committee recommends approval without changes so movies that you know this i can take you so it's been moved and second d moved by mr vick to reno second by the further discussion all those in favor say you mr white i just can't pass it up i have to thank everyone for bringing this to fruition and hope that it takes we've now put in their recommendations in the exhibit one the chair will reckon will entertain a motion to recommend adoption of the proposed resolution entitled providing comments on draft maui county planting plan third congratulations committee made it through the process members this will be a this will conclude our items on today's agenda i think everyone for participating in a very productive afternoon