first item is to call the roll to make sure that we have a porous and in w regularly with two items and opening prayer which tonight will be led by assistant city manager greg robinson and followed by the pledge of allegiance i would invite those who are here with us tonight to rise for those two items let us pray our father in heaven we come before you this evening having a long meeting agenda busy minds and troubled hearts the tragedy this happened to our fellow countrymen women and children in boston weighs heavily on us as we desire to help in some way those that are grieving in dealing with their loss our hearts are with those that will forever feel this pain and those from our community that were there has been greatly impacted as well please create an osa lord every one of us in this country and throughout this world but disposition to do good thank you for those very fitting words you see by our agenda that it is rather lengthy but many of the items are marked with an asterisk and that asterisk indicate that they are on the consent agenda  the consent and gender consists of items which have either been discussed by and reviewed by city council earlier or are of a nature that is pretty routine and it is our intention to deal with all of those items with a single motion and a single vote however if you have other ideas you may ask that that item be removed and it will then be dealt with in its regular course order here still to get a summary of what is on the consent agenda we will ask that the clerk please give us that summary item five to approve the minutes of the regular session help march twentieth special and study sessions held march twenty seventh and budget review fourteen a one to declare as obsolete in surplus various items submitted from the how on board of public works service center technology department and waste water plant and to authorize this by auction donation or sale of listed hundred sixty three thousand six hundred thirty three dollars with a transfer contingency in the amount of one hundred sixty six thousand six hundred thirty three dollars that includes a contingency of three thousand dollars fortini three to accept the thirty year electric franchise agreements with more and park townships to continue to utilize the right away for installation maintenance and operations of electrical transmission and distribution facilities item fourteen b one i thousand eight to except in place on first reading of ordinance property located at six sixty one apple avenue to rezone from r one family residential to p r d planned residential residential district and place on the way one city council agenda under adoption of ordinances for final reading hearing item fourteen c one to approve a nine disturbance and a twenty minute agreement with e c aviation services inc for property at the west michigan regional airport and to authorize the mayor and deputy city clerk to execute the said document subject to receipt of a copy of the restated and amended grew a ground lease between e c aviation services item fourteen two to approve an agreement with the king county sheriff's department for use of two motorcycles for the purpose of traffic enforcement and patrol during the two thousand and thirteen tulip time festival i am fourteen c three to approve an agreement with the city of allegan police department for the use of the seat belt convincer during tulip time in national night out as part of a how in public safety efforts to provide in part in addition educational component to attending the event pending approval as to form by the city claims filed against the city to the city's insurance carrier and city attorney for consideration item fourteen the two to approve the two thousand and thirteen tulip time contract for the use of various city facilities and entertainment permits as required by section three da two of the city ordinance for the two thousand and thirteen tulip time festival subject to approval as to form by the city attorney item fourteen d three to approve the recommendation of various in you'll city licenses per section seventeen dash seven of the ordinance as presented in reviewed by city departments and to adopt associated resolution for the submittal of pool billiards licenses item fourteen one point one two approve the trash billion agreement with ib computer inc for refuse and recycling services and payment plans and that the mayor and deputy clerk be authorized to sign such agreement item fourteen one point two to approve the merchant transaction processing agreement with t s merchant solutions for the process of credit card payments for the refuse recycling and direct deposit payments to the city's bank account and to authorize a finance director to sign on behalf of the city i had import teenie two point one t approved catering contracts with above and beyond banquet in catering college catering and beechwood in restaurant and catering and concession agreements with dutch village but shop for the two thousand and thirteen season  importing two point two to approve an agreement with black lake studio and press for the creative development and production of new videos for the wind island gardens at a cost of ten thousand dollars with an additional one thousand for professional talent mutually agreed upon and that the mayor and deputy clerk sign said agreement fourteen two point three to approve the purchase agreement with how public schools for the six point seven six acres of the formerly you school site along the south side of thirty second street in the amount of one hundred thirty five thousand two hundred dollars to be funded funded from the municipal stadium sale and that the mayor and deputy clerk sign said agreement item fourteen three point one to schedule a public hearing on the requested p a one ninety eight tax abatement protect no co at sixty eight sixty one east forty years for wednesday may one two thousand and thirteen at seven p m in the council chambers and to instruct the deputy clerk to publish in mail required notices item fourteen e three point two two review and accept the march two thousand and thirteen monthly financial report as presented by the finance department item fourteen three point three two accept the low bid from armor express at a cost of eleven thousand one hundred dollars for the purchase of six technical best and six ballistic plates for the public safety departments what's a cost to be funded through the public safety service this fiscal year two thousand and thirteen budget and donations item fortini four point one to approve a second amendment to the master service service agreement with secure us technologies for the provision of prepaid calling card and the installation of one phone in the jail booking area i am fourteen e the department of public safety services big them services unit to accept donations from the scheduled july two thousand and thirteen freedom run motorcycle fund razor and to authorize the use of promotional material energy audits and that the city be dedicated to budget for two additional years in the amount of eight thousand dollars and item fourteen point three to approve the future prep connection business partnership ladder of understanding with area intermediate school district to prepare the future workforce to make a positive contribution to the economic vibrancy of the region this will include participation in educational sessions for up to twenty students at a time at various city facilities i thank you anna for that lengthy report on the consent agenda this evening having heard that if there is there anyone in the audience who would like to remove any of those items from the consent agenda placeholder for technical difficulties there's always this  these are the proceeds from the sale of carolyn stitches holiday greeting card which featured the windmill we've been doing this with carolyn since right after the sesquicentennial when we first became aware  artwork this year as we were talking about it three of my staff myself included have all served as tour guides when will island at some point in their career we all have a real fun for the island as does my board we really want to  see the windmill continue as an icon for holland and so on behalf of all of us we'd like to present this check thank you very much cotton will see to it that it gets ok that brings us to eight special orders of the day the first item there is a public hearing of necessity water improvement project to drive a water main extension and it looks like the old neighborhood is here c members of the city council this is for some of you the second time that you've considered this matter this matter was last reviewed on august second of two thousand and after receiving input at a public hearing  much like this there is a conclusion that this water service not proceed however time has evolved there are several individuals that have connected sense and this is the service area is shown on the screen and there were letters sent to the property owners affected with estimated amounts as to the total cost depending on their lot size of course the larger lot size pays a fee the larger service size pays a lot more fees as well based on benefit received so the amount shown in the tables are based on five eighth's inch meter size and that of course remains to be seen whe actual connections are made so with that we have in the audience two vigils from the board of public works who are been instrumental in putting together the numbers and also the mechanics of this type of water service extension i want to make it clear there is a revised report not sure it got into dropbox but the actual total cost of the project is one hundred forty five thousand dollars the amount that is being assessed via the benefit received is actually about one third of that so the board of public works if this goes forward would be assuming about three times that in terms of costs the city council's action tonight is to consider a resolution of a necessity should you approve that resolution then the assessing department would be ordered to provide the other necessary documents and this would move forward so with that i conclude my remarks to see if any questions of either members of the public works or myself in anticipation of the public hearing right members of council and he washington's as to what is before us dave or dan any comments initially or just back up for questions that come up during the hearing all right well then this is the time for the public hearing of necessity and will at this time declare the public hearing to be open if you wish to address council on this item i would ask that you come forward to the podium now with microphones working that you would state your name and your address for the record and you have up to five minutes to give us your thoughts  but we don't want to impose a financial hardship that any of our neighbors and that's what he want to make very clear tonight ok thank you financial hardship for me and a few other of us over there that says i'm here too that special assessment may be levied against properties i soon that means me as my taxes will go up if i get city water is that correct can be is that is that that number on here i believe so ok i guess  i've heard some comments that the city water don't taste good i have a i have my own well in it i don't have any problems and i mean it works good i got good i got good water pressure and i like the taste of my water i  you know i can't see forking out that amount of money for something i don't really need but i know when i lived in another house a rattle house and my well went bad talk about the specifics of the installation we would most likely put the water main on the east side of the road because there is a sanitary sewer on the west side of the road in front of your home there yeah so the water main would most likely go on the opposite side of the road  would probably try to do our best to keep it out of the roadway and put it in the along the edge of the roadway and then we would restore everything as it is today after the water after the water main was installed charges is a flat rate for everyone it doesn't matter the size or the the length if you did want a larger diameter service it would it would go up it's be more expensive than the eleven hundred dollars standard water service charge but that's most eleven hundred dollars water service would be more than an it's a one inch water service would be more than enough for most single family residential homes what you're probably seeing in front of you is a four thousand six hundred fifty two dollars yes they're ok and what that is is that's eleven hundred of that forty six fifty two is for the service star service charge for the water service ok the balance the three thousand five hundred fifty  dollars would be based on your front end you have one hundred eleven feet of frontage we have a standard rate of thirty two dollars a foot for the installation of the water main and the two numbers combined would be your assessment the four thousand six hundred fifty two dollars thank you and that basically gets gets to their property line and then if they opted to hook up there would be a trunk and fee plus they would be responsible for the cost of the plumber to actually put the line in from the service point to their home that's exactly correct each customer would be responsible to pay a plumber to bring that pipe from the property line up where a sidewalk would be if you would imagine a sidewalk on on hiawatha where a sidewalk would be up into the building and then to install the meter and things of that nature there is a there that's where the trunk edge charge comes into play and that's that's due at the time of connection if you were to so choose to connect it's not it's not required for you to connect if the water main were constructed  i didn't connect that but still run my outside faucets with my pump that's correct you're geisha in your if you had spigot you had the spigots you could still run your well if it was still running you just we would require to be physically separated from your drinking water system inside the home that you just wouldn't we wouldn't allow a cross connection between the two i'm trying to remember oh what is the average water bill for city water a month i can't tell you or any of our barbara pays the bills probably nobody here pays the bill when it's all it's right around it's right around twenty dollars i'm sorry right over here it's right around twenty dollars per month for an average use the average use that we have is ten c c use and for a five eighth's inch meter it's a little over twenty dollars a month thank yeah well i think that's all i have think i think you're any anyone else financial burden for me to do this my well is completely operational it works fine i have good water pressure i don't have any issues at all i guess what i'm concerned about is we have only a couple people on our on our street and i love our neighbors too but there's only a couple people that have an issue and for all of us that are the rest of the street that our wells are working fine to have to take this kind of a burden is in my opinion wrong my other question to you is if you're going to be running the water line on my side of the street right  that eleven hundred dollars that i would have to pay mediately even if i don't choose to hook up to city water that would be included in the assessment be included in the front of charge and it would go on the tax rolls i believe it can be paid over time over fifteen years ok so that but their eleven hundred is in the forty six eighty four that's correct yes it's included in the forty six eighty four it's not and what's the dish no if you if you i guess i'm just still confused about additional if we decide to hook up if you were to connect right of way you would pay a plumber to bring a pipe from your home out to that pipe again where a sidewalk would normally be and then there is a meter charge  to charge the trunk of charges the largest one it's seven hundred thirty dollars and that's based on a five eighth's inch meter which is a standard meter for a single family residential home so why are we talking that seven hundred so we're looking at about another thousand i mean what are we what are we looking at out of pocket for a customer you would be at least a thousand dollars additional to make a connection to the city water and i can honestly say for me who has no need for any of this i mean to do fifty six hundred eighty four dollars that i don't particularly have i think is is wrong when there are maybe two people or three people on the street that have an issue the rest of us are completely fine so that is what i have to say  the microphone is open i know it is your temp but also want to say that at least a thousand dollars that's in addition to the seven thirty seven yesterday yeah that would be the the charge from the plumber all but obviously some of our neighbors do so not really sure how we feel about this at our house other than we really don't need it but do you have to hook up to the site what you know i don't know there's no requirement to hook up to it there is no requirement to hook up to it there is a requirement to pay the assessment but there is no requirement to connect to the to the city in your case if this project goes forward what you see what your house number care by five six six there would be a charge of four thousand six hundred fifty two dollars ok and that's that's that would be your portion called the cost of putting the water main in ok but you could do that without actually doing the hook up and then at some point say we do need city water then at that point we can pay right to get out point you at that point you pay the trumpets rate at that time in the meter charge at the time and you pay a plumber at that time to open a connection ok all right that is what i have to say thank you fifteen years you can pay it off at any time but i believe it is a maximum of fifteen years that you have to spread the cost although with the cost be then fifteen years yours is forty three hundred dollars and the be divided by fifteen plus there would be interest on it right the interest rate would be the you know that varies from year to year i don't know what the current interest rate two and a half percent is that a variable rate one we know that i'm too to whatever the going rate is every year right well my thought here is the interest rate is low and our water is poor so we are in favor of water thirty  what about the trunk which fee is that due at book up or can that also be added to it so that's at hook up and that we've we have allowed that to be paid over time i want to say that's ten years though but it's that can be paid over time as well  there are eight homes that do not have water currently there are eleven properties eleven different properties involved two homes that are there now that are in the assessment district are already connected to water  one of those properties one of those homes owns two lots so there there vacant lot would be assessed but there would be there would be eight homes they do not yet have water and if they're already are homes they have water why how did they get the line they they got connected several years ago and they connected through a special arrangement and they paid the balance when a water main is constructed in front of their property so why couldn't they couple homes that need water now do the same thing and have a special arrangement where you would be having everybody else in the neighborhood to export i mean if there's only two houses that are having problems with water why did the rest of us the trouble that brings is it it buries several small diameter lines underneath our interest underneath the roads  instead of one large line and those lines are privately owned and i think that's why we installed public water mains is for just a lemonade those long services are called unorthodox and then the they would be buried under or next to the roadways the city roadways is there any way because the problem with the water is down on the and of hiawatha that you can only do a portion and not do the portion of the because most of us that go up pile high lot are the ones that don't have problems it's the end of the street so you could do something special towards their end of the street and not have the rest of us have to it could be a special deal we'd rather for for reliability and for fire protection needs we would want to loop the water main instead of have a dead end and extend a water main down just to the north end of hiawatha as a dead end our preference would be to loop it so that if there was a problem in the main it has more has better reliability especially for fire protection needs because we would add a hydrant down hiawatha as well which allows for better fire protection fire coverage for the for the neighborhood of course it's it's best practice to loop it to connect to places instead of just extend a branch in it's not impossible but it's not something would prefer so it's not impossible time so that we're not so that we're tearing up the road one time instead of tearing it up multiple times over the years to add another water main down the road it's just best practice to do it all at once and close the loop that's that's what they would thank you brian you have a comment just wanted to say being a veteran of some of these conversations elsewhere when that has happened ten years later it's being done because the water is stale and there's complaints that that i would like it and another thing i'd like to it to tell the council that we were requested to have the sewer line go through the back of our property because we have a large that and we allow that to happen now the city goes through there occasionally and checks that are so forth and i find no problem with that or anyone else in the audience who would like to address the council on this matter so any non will declare the public hearing to be closed and what is the pleasure of counsel recommendation any comments it just it just a thought and you know these are real numbers and they have implications so i don't want i don't want those that express concern about that cost to go  her one in there were a couple points brought up by the city manager in the city attorney as to some things that we sometimes look past and you know i owned a house on the south side of town that we had two wells as well when i first opened i had four kids and we had fluoride issues and things of that nature with that well water and some of those health concerns and you know this is  as all all our neighborhoods are this is an important neighborhood but it dawned on me one thing that we often forget is that city water is actually an asset to the value of a property and what i mean by that is is yes there's no two ways to get around the fact that there's an assessed value here that will be spread out over fifteen years if you so choose and that is if this measure passes but there's also a reality that that likely has an upward implication on your property value as well not a real it or i don't play one on t v however i know a few of them and they speak of the value of our water system in the clarity that it has in the additional value it brings to our properties and i just wanted to be on the record saying you know what let's not look past that as well and maybe just a bit of encouragement for those that don't necessarily want the cost but if it passes and you feel frustration over the long run that should translate into some property value for you because  i think the the chart that we saw at the pre council meeting was a reflection of a survey that was turned in with the request and as i recall that survey there was one person who at the time of the petition went around expressed opposition that was ernie who was here tonight expressing his opposition  there was one person who expressed some reservation but was guardedly in support with some reservation and i believe that person was karen who spoke also tonight there were a couple of people that were and not that initial petition and i believe we heard from one of them  tonight who has said that they are opposed so this isn't a whole lot of fun right now he's your neighborhood i'm assuming everybody's lived there a long time you get people on the street who don't want to spend four or five thousand dollars for water presumably that they don't feel they need and you have other people who have bad water and that's not a good thing they live in a city so i want to thank god for making that comment i think if we asked real leaders in town  have city water and city sewer and city services i have to believe that yes makes a big difference and if you take forty five thousand dollars and divide that by fifteen i think you look at it two or probably three hundred dollars so for whatever reason i mean there's no training for that so this is a real got caught i mean i'm i don't like these positions because i believe in neighborhoods and people stand up and say you know what i want what i don't want or what i appreciate and i appreciate everybody being here and talking about this but i think sitting here right now the most important thing is to have someone in the city who just has water that they can't live with and i guess by voting yes i'm asking the others to come to the table a little bit every year for the next fifteen years and then hopefully when the day comes you'll get that benefit back when you sell your house  and i do believe that you can say that i know of some wells are good some some wells are not good i do think from the stuff that i get from the b p w quite regularly there we have some of the best water in the country and there may be some benefits in that that when you wash your clothes or you your you know your dog i don't know but i need to be flippant about it but i do think that the bad water issue weighs a little bit more on me than asking some folks to think about that going forward so it's comments off the cuff thank you echo that with  with you jay this is not a great decision to be in especially people who aren't in the neighborhood but i don't think this needs to be a history lesson but the defining moment for what makes cities great is the fact that we provide clean water and that clean water should not be defined perceived as a burden to its residents and it's difficult for me to hear that it's to burden to people  because we exist as a city because we have access to clean water without even thinking about it but it just exists that got  mike so i'm i i'm always in favor of kind of this access and ensuring that everyone has equal access to the city services and the services that really make the city a great place to live so you know i i'm kind of with jay on this that i think we can amortize this cost hopefully over a number of years and hopefully allow everyone have clean water in their homes and maintain and hopefully increase the value of their homes over time thank you and the other members like i believe there's only two of us that were that went through this the first time that are still here and i believe at that time there was no bad wells i believe at that time there was the majority of the people didn't want it and that's why we didn't pass it unfortunately over the time that's passed there has been some wells that have gone bad i don't know why i don't know how quickly the rest if at all they will go as was said before we are not deaf to the financial portion of this fully understand that if there was a different way we could do it believe you me we would be doing it but there isn't  i just went through a situation with my grandparents where they lived where a water main was in front of the house they had well water they still have water but when the house sold knowing the fact that there at least was city water out  there believe you if if you want but i'm tellin from the heart that it did increase the value of the house they weren't hooked up just the fact that it was there and they knew that that assessment wasn't coming you don't have to hook up this is not like sanitary sewer state law mandates that you have to hook up to sanitary sewer if it comes in from your house the water you don't the main goes through the stub goes through to the to the curb stop and that's where it ends you want to hook it up later time i think and this is not being flippant either but the costs are not going to get cheaper if this half stick if this has to comes up in another five six years the costs are just going to and they put it in but in the long run i felt better about it because the water tasted so good i never had to wonder what was going on in my well and just getting water out of a hole in the ground with all that kind of reports you hear about things seeping into something in the long run it made me feel better that i had city water that tasted good and was purified and there was there was a group standing behind it the test of it for me so yeah it's never fun to spend any money on something for your home but homes just eat up money constantly and having pure water i think is one of the most important  things in a home and i and i do think that knowing that in the past no one was having problems with their wells and now some are doesn't mean we're going the right direction  with the water quality in the ground possibly so i really like others have said it does weigh very heavily on us for people to be having brown water at their house in the city of holland so i really think the best thing for us to do is to be sure that we can provide pure water for any home that wants to access it and if the day comes when your wealth doesn't passed up your feet purity test you're ready  to hook up if you want to but i think i'm going to have to support  city water so this should be easy and i heard that there might be some opposition to it so i thought well we'll see what the commentary tonight brings us to conclude in well there's obviously by the results of those who spoke no clear it's also interesting to me that in this small neighborhood here separated by virtually hundreds of feet you have some people who are content with the quality of the water and some who find it difficult to live with  rarely if ever have i seen an instance where the quality of water that comes out of a while improves our suddenly is better in most all cases whether it's a rural or urban setting again for some odd reason the quality of our water seems to deteriorate rather than get better and the fact that you all are living here together with sort of a different ends of the spectrum in terms of water quality leads me to believe that if you don't have a problem with your water now you will at some point just because of what's going on in your neighborhood and what happens with wild water and i think we have to look at this in terms of long term benefit i think there probably would be benefits in terms of property value in the long run that's probably borne out with imperial evidence somewhere but as you know as we live in a community one of the things we do is we provide for communal necessities and clean water  clean environment are couple of things that we provide for each other so much and now even though it may be difficult to take some solace from i think we all identify and empathize with the burden that this creates financially but in terms of community benefit specifically and this model or part of our community i think the benefit immediately and long term is going to be worth the investment know well look up to you said this is not a fun position to be and and i can tell you as someone with my dog walks past these houses once or twice every day and waves that these people and as they drive by and says a lot it's not an easy position for me to be any other as mike indicated this is something that has been  a number of years ago and the one thing that has changed at that time i didn't hear anyone saying that they had water quality issues with their well water  and that is different and it's difficult but i think as a city we have an obligation to provide good quality water everywhere in the city and unfortunately that comes at a cost we do have means here to spread the costs out to make it a bit more affordable over the long run and i would encourage you to make use of those and again if if you don't need to hook up right now you don't have to but based on what i all right that brings us to community development block grant action plan thank you for coming folks to the two thousand and thirteen two thousand and fourteen community development block grant and its funding recommendations the city of holland is considered an entitlement community by the u s department of housing and urban development means that the city gets a set amount of money each year to allocate to certain projects and programs throughout the city to make the city a better place to live work and play the stipulations with the funds that must go to benefit low to moderate income people or go to address slum blight the process that gets us here tonight started back in january when we had our first of our cheery choir public hearings and it will be our second required public hearing the first public hearing happened in january where we invited practically fifty different agencies and city residents to meet with city staff and the neighborhood improvement committee to identify a need that they see in the city through that process with about thirty people show up for that meeting and it's been included in your package as part of our consolidated plan that was submitted to city council after that meeting the neighborhood improvement committee got together and they identified a total of five projects that they would like to see get funded for the upcoming year for our community development block grant i just want to make a point that five projects is by far the lowest amount of projects we've ever funded with c d g dollars that used to be upwards of twenty but we have seen a great reduction in federal funds over the past ten years and the committee spent some great time talking about where this money should go there's a lot of city jacks that as been put in this process before we hold a public hearing i'd like to give a quick review over each of the programs that we will be funding and a dollar amount the city of holland home of her program which gives financial assistance to low income homeowners to make repairs to their houses will be receiving one hundred ninety thousand eight hundred twenty nine dollars that will help approximately sixty to seventy homes good samaritan ministries neighborhood connections program which works with our code enforcement staff in addressing some of the issues we have in some of our central neighborhoods in out and heights in the stratford abbey oxford neighborhood they will be receiving thirty thousand dollars the city of holland will be receiving five thousand seven hundred six dollars to conduct receiving five thousand dollars to provide fair housing services for the city of holland and then we are also setting aside forty four thousand five hundred dollars for administration of the program and other community development activities again this is the second public hearing in this process and tonight council will just be being asked to open the floor to see comments from the public and then any comes out to receive will be forwarded to the neighborhood improvement committee for their deliberation and inclusion in the final plan which will be bringing to you at your first meeting in may to be approved and submitted to hud any questions from council on this process so far for me joel can you quickly clarify for housing services  provided fair housing center of west michigan is the main fair housing provider and for all of west michigan covered a ten county area what we contract with and to do is to do what we call survey tests and complaint based tests so in the city of harley receives a phone call or an inquiry from a resident saying i'm having an issue or you know we think what is an issue staff immediately brings in the fair housing center of west michigan where they are better trained more educated more informed of what fair housing law was and they investigate the issues and then we also encourage them to do what's called education they really like to promote their education over their enforcement every fall for the past three years since we've been contracting with them they've been new it's called a fair housing breakfast in the city of holland would invite real estate professionals such as your state agents mortgage brokers landlords sattar up to just educate them on you know the rights and rules as it turn a blind eye to that issue this is one way we can go about affirmatively furthering fair housing so the neighborhood improvement committee thinks it's very important that we contract with a professional organization such as the fair housing center of west michigan offer and testing you know one point we had we had done that in two thousand several years ago whenever bruce boss retired and i was asked to fill this role as community development corp nater at that moment we started our contracting contracting at the fair housing center of west michigan annually they do testing under that contract with the city of holland as part of our contract five thousand dollars does not go of a long way at all when it comes to testing so i want to say off the cuff there are anywhere from three to five tests that they do a year you know in the general area so it's probably reduced but it's still a component of what we contract correct ok thank you asian process the initial reports are coming out of washington d c as we were looking at an eight point two percent cut to see the b g did whatever they had to do and it looks like it's going to a five percent cut so what happened is after they went through this process the neighborhood improvement committee went through this process and they made their allocation we have some additional funds left over and so we just park that into this neighborhood  explaining that number just to be very clear that thirty eight hundred was what i would consider a leftover amount we knew we wanted to put funding into it whenever you really want to tackle and better understand hod where it was going to be only a five percent cut we took that additional funding and we parked it into that program hoping to expand a little bit on that study and look at some of the crosses along thirty one that's what i wanted to hear that you had a specific project for that yes thank you sir ailie questions for joel if i may i'll just make a comment there if not that one i think there's a whole host of pedestrian projects that we can probably take a look at we've talked council level about just that i guess train traffic around schools parks and as joe mentioned thirty one there's been some bad stuff happen up there by the apartments and so that make a dent in what we need to really be studying out terms that foot traffic mean i know you're there and i know i understand that it's just a because the money is a ground down and this is going to sound very strange coming out of my mouth joel knows my history with this that there could have been this two thousand if there was not specific projects that two thousand dollars could have been better spent in a couple of other areas but knowing that there are specific projects then most definitely y ok i will declare the public hearing to be open there is anyone who wants to speak to the annual action plan for tem fully ready to support as my most and suggests just to bring back up i think it's been a couple years now that we've we've talked about or at least kick the  tires the notion of being an entitlement community and the pros and cons that i can't remember which mean it was that we were in recently together but i know you mentioned that again as far as our desire to kind of take a look at that in the sas that  as a council and is a deliberative body so just to bring that back on to the radar because it's before us but nonetheless i think we should start the process of taking a look at that and see if there  article only initially talked about it there were some things that we were not able to do as an entitlement community and that kind of brought up the question of whether it was worth remaining in entitlement community  number nineteen finished does he have an item on the table regarding the vacating of laura lane right away in order to discuss that we would south has a letter on file that said requested that this be tabled initially and for the same reasons noted a month ago or whenever that was it suggests that it be tabled again and we mire believe that may fifteenth would be the likely dake day to take it off the table right any comments or questions about that we have a motion and support to table until may fifteenth table emotional hours for no debate please call the r out of my mouth and then i realized i probably could add a voice vote on a table employees department is proposing the ordinance amendments before the council this evening we have essentially two chapters that would have amendments for lighting there to the first is chapter eleven which deals with the regulation of fireworks in the study of how and the second is chapter nineteen that deals with what we called nuisance conditions in the city how those are defined and regulations in that area as preface relate to our discussion the seasoning the city has currently a fireworks ordinance that is very outdated  the definition of fireworks relates back to how fireworks were defined when this was a very regulated area by most states but in two thousand and twelve the state of michigan adapted a statute that has been interesting lee called the michigan fireworks safety act and the michigan firework safety act has really created a situation in michigan where there has been preemption of local regulation of fireworks and now we have a much more expansive definition of what is allowed under the term fireworks during a thirty day period a year there are ten national holidays that are defined in the state statute and the day before the national holiday and the day after are included in the preemption under the  michigan fireworks safety act so what municipalities have been confronted with is a situation of thirty day stay preemption of this  issue and then they've also had to deal with the question well how are we going to deal with the discharge of fireworks three hundred and fifty five days of the year so what we have before the city council tonight is a revision to chapter eleven of the ordinance code this section will recognize the state preemption allowing the thirty day period of time within which fireworks as newly defined into state law would be allowed we do have regulations though that this must be done on your property you can't discharge and other persons property there are probations about minors use of the fireworks there are prohibitions on the transfer minors so what we have attempted to do is look at the areas that state law does allow us to deal with minors and possession and we have regulation on the public property where a display could be conducted and we have an corporate rated those and to the ordnance now chapter nineteen has a little bit of a different twist to it we have experienced and the police department has had a number of incidents dealing with this issue that after eleven o'clock at night for instance when most people regard a time of peace and quiet to maybe go to bed or  to let the day wind down we have to find under our nuisance provision that the discharge of fireworks would be discontinued after eleven p m until seven a m in the morning so we have essentially a two pronged regulation before the council of the same thing if you decide to adapt the amendments to chapter eleven and chapter nineteen of the ordinance code now there was some question about what would be the effect of in force what would be the violations here generally if there would be  a enforcement action taken a new chapter nineteen the nuisance section these are going to be regarded as a class one misdemeanors you have a twenty five dollars fine for a first offense a second offens fifty dollars if a similar offense occurred within twenty four months of the third offense of seventy five dollars if within the twenty four month period if on the other hand there was  a discharge on a day other than the thirty days a year there is the possibility of charging an individual through a misdemeanor chief masters here tonight i know what that council study session there was a discussion about the educational process the department wants to implement the passage of this i think is timely because of the approaching  the morial day weekend and of course july fourth will be right behind it so i recommendation tonight would be for council to adopt both changes to the ordinance code the effective date of the ordinances would be twenty one days after council adoption the seat thank you candy and you know chief do you have anything to to add to that the state made a decision that they wanted michigan to become competitive with many of the other south midwest states indiana that have allowed these types of fireworks for a number of years the state looked at the state license that is involved in being able to sell these in the state of michigan and i think they saw certain revenue enhancements through that process but i think it's absolutely clear that you know the higher charge fireworks that are now avail available in the state of michigan have created significant safety issues and i know that this is a continuing problem at the home police department has witnessed there are a lot of stories after last year when this came out and to a fact as to accidents that occurred in the state of michigan but it's  that we don't have control over because the state preemption during the thirty day period and they sing so i i'm glad that we spent a summer doing this and trying to follow this new michigan fire safety act and watch it roll out so that we would know exactly what to do to try to zero in the danger factor and irritation and everything else and so we're not doing this quickly or flippantly we're doing it carefully within what we think we can do as a city and order to tighten up something that can just go rampant and before people leave because they're so irritated and can't sleep at night or have post traumatic stress syndrome with things going off all the time and babies not sleeping and people getting hurt on the streets and amazing so i'm thrilled that all of the you have worked so hard to figure out how we can legally try to control what has been allowed at the state level self thank you for all your work and i'm glad to pass this is ok well an ordinance requires a public hearing if there is anyone here to address council on this ordinance this is your opportunity to do so  will declare the public hearing to be open and as per usual rules of counsel please approach the diocese you have five minutes and give your name and address for the record pl to address the noise concern that this issue addresses on chapter eleven that's proposed here it's we're dealing with safety and we're under the rules of the state and how we're trying to address this and we're going to have to live up to the higher authority which is a state so that limits us and our a ruling here and in the way we're proposed the amendment what i'd like to speak to is the second part the chapter nineteen  i don't agree that this is a good part of amendment by our leaders i asked for equal protection of the law for our citizens in a city and across the country and i think this is a wrong address to that particular issue i think we're talking on the other side of control here it was mentioned by mr molder that it's from eleven p m tell seven a m that fireworks wouldn't be allowed on these thirty days  the recommendation here was for a time of peace and quiet i would like to say that that's a good idea but it's a discriminatory thinking against some of the people in the city and some of the people in this country which we claim to try to protect to me this is a class war issue and sometimes people don't understand that we are in a class war and have been in a class war and probably will be in a class war but i think it's something that some people i should think about that don't probably realize that this is part of the issue i think on this board the people that sit on the sport and the people that work with this board you're all first shift workers i assume that's true usually with first shift workers that's a higher economic status means that first shift workers tend to get a higher pay in america  and in the higher social class because of that they are the people that want them and their families protected from this noise issue and so they would institute a law that would say you can explode fireworks at night because we and our families want to sleep we don't want to be bothered but there's other people in the city that work second and third shift that need to sleep during the times that we're going to allow and say it's ok during those thirty days to explode these fireworks and cause a noise condition that might not be fair to these people i think you're ignoring the protection for second and third shift workers they're not on your board they haven't been in your discussions they're not elected to be leadership positions and that's sort of america and sometimes the our leaders forget this and so i think it's you should be concerned for these other people in the city and i don't know what that percentage is but if it's just one person to something that i don't think has been thought about i think you know section or chapter nineteen protects the upper class and ignores or says the heck with the lower class well to me that's not acceptable i think we have to rethink the second part i don't want you to vote for the second part if it has to be tabled go back for discussion or whatever that would appease me but i think in all conscience you can vote for the second part chapter nineteen tonight i don't think it's right i think you have to put yourself in other people's shoes and i don't think that your got a busy day on you've got a lot of things on your agenda all the time and expression tonight but i think it's important you walk into other people's shoes i think that's what a leader ship position is this just not what you and your family run into every day but maybe what somebody runs into all the time that you don't and i think it's important for me and other people to come up to this podium and give you those issues because you can't think of everything we're not gods here we're just people trying to do the best that we can and it might be something that you forgot about but i think it's really important it's important in everything that we make a decision on in this country expression in a leadership position you have to think of people that aren't here sometimes in the environment you have to think of trees can't talk you have to stand up for maybe a burger or whatever here we have to we have to think about the people that are going to be inconvenienced by your chip in one thousand you will be and can means you and your family but these other people will be you have to think of them too if if our rulers make things so that they're not inconvenienced then they don't have to think about the problem anymore but the citizens that are negatively impacted they're going to think about them every day but it's not going to be in your concern well that's not the right way that's not that's not good leadership there are open for discussion on the issue like when i appreciate what you have to say i didn't follow you at all but i appreciate what you had to say i don't understand and i will not make this a public debate right now i just have to try to understand with us passing this ordinance there is no way that we're not considering everybody you said it in your very first statement that we have only so much control the state handed these rules down to us we have to do the best we can the only way that we're going to appease everybody is totally abolish fireworks twenty four seven three hundred sixty five that's the only way that we're going to live up to what you suggested we can't do that the state has said that we can't do that we're trying to do the best we can with what we've got it's not a class thing it's a common sense type of thing and if that helps i hope it helps me  i've been looking for this probably not as long as brian has but i've been looking for this i get this just this past sunday we got entertained with fireworks sunday afternoon nice quiet sunday afternoon to three o'clock in the afternoon we get some fireworks going off so there's a time and a place there are some people that are going to abide by the rules there's going to be people that try to abuse them we now have some rules and regulations that we have some meat behind us that give the police department some meat is not the proper word have some unfortunate behind what we're trying to do here trying to make the neighborhoods quiet trying to make the neighborhood safe allowing people to have fun in a good time when they want to during the proper times we're not abolishing fireworks altogether but folks let's be reasonable  and that's all we're trying to do here thank you very much i'll add to that i love fireworks i think they're awesome i think they are incredibly dangerous i don't like the idea of restricting someone's freedom to express themselves through blowing something up however i also don't want them landing on my house in my house burning down because it's made out of wood i have small children there are other people in this town who have other concerns we want to respect those concerns as well  we are looking at this legislation based on the vast vast majority of the people who live and exist within certain hours of the day  and unfortunately that is what we have to work with and that is what we will work with in this time that's majority of people here and it's not a class issue it's to go mike most people operate during the day and sleep during the night that is our most of our culture i've been waiting to vote on this for a long time i'm looking forward to it i think it's going to make holland safe and i think it's going to still allow people the freedom to again express themselves as they see fit directly comments made from the audience but for what it's worth you know going to go into that the comment on class i only speak for myself on this part of the comment but generally i'm referred to as class l s more often than not not of a particular class however when it comes to shifts i'll note that the clock now says roughly twenty two minutes for the hour of nine that would place at least everybody at this diocese squarely in the second shift and for what it's worth the men and women that i serve with here whether they be council members or staff members are all shifters and my own opinion and that is around the clock we either work physically or mentally at our day jobs as described or in this capacity and so i will speak for all of us there and that goes for the chief that goes for the clerk these distances the manager and those that report through all those folks so for what it's worth  the rest of my council colleagues likely have a clue where i'm going with this particular vote so i'll just state it now i'm not inclined to support and this will not be the best analogy and i  agree we took a year we took a year to get some sampling if you will with some new toys i have four kids and again maybe not the best analogy but i think by my estimation i have at least eight ner guns in my house seven of which do not get touched anymore the week we got them they were fantastic and they were used every day almost throughout the day and fireworks my again my own limited opinion and i did not grow up in this state i grew up in that rogue state to the south where we've sold these things for some time and i as i have studied this one yes there are some safety issues with the new toys that the citizens of michigan got last year and we test them out to the fullest i fully understand that my opinion is that the newness will wear off as it does in most states that have done this before and that is that the  coolness the fun that is jay talks about the fun that he has with them i know brian like some and i know they can be a nuisance i think what we have gone through is more irritation a nuisance than it is safety and i don't want to get in a debate whether there is no safety in the state law or whether there is safety in the law but i do believe in my heart of hearts that we're being maybe a bit quicker than we would normally be with some things we don't have a large sample we have one summer's worth of scene of activity and for what it's worth i don't think it's the best sample because i do believe these things do wear off again they're not nerf guns but i do believe that to some degree they are like ner guns and that is after shooting off a few times they end up in the closet until grandma and grandpa buy a nerf gun at least that's the way it goes in the white house and i've seen it happen with some of these fireworks in other states where i grew up and again i don't know that the safety statistics really stack up all that differently in those states but and i will concede that there are some irritations wonder stand sunday afternoons are sacred i like my quietness too  again because i'm an all shifter i'm usually taken a nap at about that time and so i get it but i will not be supporting this chief really and just a quick comment i think i can understand where the gentleman the audience is coming from has been a police officer for twenty two years trust me i've worked many many different shifts including from ten one till in the morning so i completely understand where you're same but i think the point here is also if i was you understand it's not just the the audible signals it's also the visual so ninety percent of the fireworks are at night or not during the day and i just did a quick look at our log of our eighty three firework complain responded to within a couple days and they all fell in between eight twenty nine p m and three o seven a m we didn't have any other firework in place during the day and i understand probably you're not going to get fireworks during th maybe during the day maybe going off but we're not going to get them but i think predominantly most of the fireworks are lit off after dark just because of the visual display so i think that's the way i look at this i didn't look at it as any kind of a class or anything like that it but i understand what you're saying but i do think that most fireworks are between those hours so that's why we put these hours in place foot seven in the morning i don't think they probably will in that something that we can maybe tweak another year if we need to again i think most of them are going to feel a night hours even eleven o'clock is going to be a little bit of a push probably for some people but i think it's a beginning and i think it's a reasonable beginning and let's see what happens this year and we need to tweak it for next year the following years we can do so i did work second shift i think i got a premium for that so i was making more than for shifters but there's been noise going off in my neighborhood too for many many years question around fourth of july and so forth and minutely it's been a little louder and more frequent last year so whether or not i don't know todd whether i can agree with the or not yet whether the newness of this would wear off and we just sort of it's called their neighborhood anyway i'm going to support this  it's just been very very noisy and and i think we have to do something i don't have kids in the house anymore but for those who do it's i can understand the problem because it annoys me so brian i share your fascination and appreciation for fireworks i do like and while i was not in the neighborhood last fourth of july i happened to be vacationing in the land of our neighbors to the north that week last year but i recall that checking my e mail  in canada on the fifth of july i had a an e mail from one of my near neighbors who happens to be in the room this evening about what went on in our neighborhood that evening and asking for some relief and i think there's a time and a place for a lot of things but i think that between eleven o'clock in the evening and seven in the morning is not the time for the volume of fireworks that we've experienced over the last couple of years so i too will be supporting  so having said that and it would you please call the to item twelve communications from the audience if there's anyone in the audience like to address the council on any item that is not elsewhere on the agenda this is your opportunity brings us down to since i took this as was to be taken off consent maybe i can try to put forward a couple of questions i know i know i voted for this initially or some form of this  but as i was reading this i have a couple of questions how this is going to work maybe maybe chief if you could give canon a real brief outline of what's happening now and how this new proposal is going to differ ok you're in practice we started using securus phones and software when we moved into our new building so we we've had secure is for numerous years they've been very very good to us what happens is we have those secure t phones and software computers within our apartment the phones are in the cell to allow individuals to use those phones while they're in custody or in our facility what we do is we get a commission on those phones every year we get thirty eight percent of the commission the use of those phones plus as curious comes in maintains all the phones replace is damaged and sometimes those those phones  damp they get damaged and broken they update the software so there is no expense us as far as the equipment or the fall into the software and they give us a commission on those phones so we've had that in place our system is the same exact system as an out of the county jail so they work together for investigative purposes those those both systems are identical well we've run into lately is the fact that most individuals no longer have landlines or home phones so when individuals get in jail the current phones can only make collect calls to landlines and as we know you know eighty five percent of all my one calls are not by cell phones so most people are using cell phones so for convenience wise we want to go to this space the same system but now it's a calling card system at the same system that i would county jails want to but they do is they provide a one minute calling card  they can then use that phone card in the cells or outside the cell at the booking encounter they can then contact cell phones and a phone at that point time to secure money or get a ride of you know they've bonded out already so it's a matter of convenience for them but what also does for us is allows them to use a contact a cell phone so we would do is and provide additional phone cards to them at an expense to them they then can make contact with cell phone so i think it's more convenient for an individual that's in jail but it's probably more profitable for us because they now can contact cell phones were in the past they would be able to and i know there's a lot of people now that don't have home phones or may not accept collect call so that's the reason for this slight change or adjustment into the securest contract that we have in place already so a detainee was brought in i mean you you know  proverbial one call before you get your booking or whatever right i am i understand from reading the report is that a calling card would be issued to them for that purpose for on one or two minutes is that that's were you saying yes ok then if they want to make additional costs while they're being detained and they can purchase these other phone cards and and there's a question i have though they would be in physical possession of these cards right is there any kind of concern about having that physically i don't know what you knew a little plastic card but who knows what it's very concerned about having that in their possession while they're being detained yeah the these cards are made it would be rare we were seventy two hour hold of a silly were let out of jail so that they're really short stays there but yes someone could come in and contact the front desk and say i wish to give so and so five dollars and we'll they would purchase a phone card for that individual and that would off of this as a city we do it's been going down i think it started with about when we implemented it it was maybe seven thousand eight hundred dollars a year it's not huge of all but i think we made it we made somewhere between thirteen hundred fourteen hundred dollars but i mean that's income coming in and they they service and take care of all the fallen so that i don't have to mess with any and all that but to be totally transparent the reason that i ever took notice of this to begin with is that this is no indictment our reflection on anyone in our organization but it came to my attention recently through experience with some friends and a family member that they have been detained while awaiting trial thank you medication between the detainees and the the family members was it's difficult but it was it also extremely expensive and and i'm not trying i'm not going to draw any you know major conclusions from this other than to say it makes me wonder you it's one thing i suppose if someone is convicted and maybe our attitude toward them are we even make part of their restitution that by being a convicted whatever that they have to suffer certain circumstances one of them being a higher calling cost i don't know but you know to be in a position where you're assumed innocent before being proven proven guilty there's something about having to pay extraordinary costs to communicate with your family and i know that's just one element of communication there's a lot of other people that detainees talk to other than family but it's something that gives me pause to reflect of you know whether it's something that we should think more about if there's a better alternative to make these communications maybe a little bit more affordable or whatever and i have knowledge that there are other considerations with lee who believe the implications to think about you but that's the background behind what caught my attention with this particular item i'm going to vote in favor of it because i realize that the practical implications and we do have to provide this service but if we get something for us  not just good media only assume that's the way we do things then we need to think about that every once in awhile of are we doing the right thing for even those people who are being cursory or detained cost somebody and they're put in a cell and they're allowed to make phone calls so we're certainly above and beyond what most religious do we're given on that free card for that first minute call to make that initial contact with a family member which is to me is very important because you know if you can get all of a family member they may be able to provide bond money for you or you need a ride so to me that and that that is something that you know and plus for us too i mean when someone can get picked up right away and moved you know moved out of the facility it prevents us or i think a commoner would perceive through with grander rights or whatever but above and beyond that i mean what's the real obligation of the city and this in situations such as this provide in essence communication beyond that first phone call number other for the we there or the state law says we have to provide them the opportunity to make a phone call those not to be free doesn't have to be we have to provide them the opportunity to make a phone call that could be when they initially booked in here's here's a payphone make a phone call we don't really have to provide a phone in the cell to them but we're not required to do that so that's our only requirement so we certainly go way above and beyond that so the thirteen hundred dollars surplus in essences is really a small margin on the longest they could be in our facility is seventy two hours yes what's the average day wow well if that's hard to say because we have we have a whole lot of individuals there during arraignment day which is every tuesday so there may be some people that come in there from the git out of the county jail or there for five minutes or there may they may be in there all day long or if we arrest someone  extremely just so much less of a arrested for driving license suspended they could come in come in get fingerprinted mug shot and be released on a personal account of bond immediately so they maybe in their fifteen minutes we may arrest somebody in a domestic situation on a friday evening and we are not allowed to be released until they're going front of a judge so they may sit there over the weekend or we may transport them if they're going to be there for longer than seventy two hours we may transport them to a county or they have a medical issue or alcohol those kind of things so it's hard to say what the average the average stay would be yeah it's usually not too long without a phone call after that first one probably and if anybody wants to visit anyone can they do that in the jail we used to have visitation hours but those are very very limited now i don't believe we have any set time but there are times where they're allowed to visit family members or especially their attorneys or come in they're always allowed to  interact with their attorneys and the attorney could contact them after they'd like contacted probably sure but and in this iteration now with well they can purchase this phone card they can make as many phone calls as they wish out of that jail cell to cell phone so it really opens up the opportunity for them to contact whoever they wish yeah sounds like a good idea it's questioning raised a couple questions in my mind somebody gets thrown in jail and they get to make a car they get a free card to make one  car until they contact somebody or if that one call fails then ok sorry you had your free minute now you can now you've got to go another way to contact them legally we're only required to give them that one phone call normally ninety nine percent of the time we have an officer or a booking officer or evidence technician down there we'll out them to make to make enough calls to contacts and getting them but yeah within reason i mean of that they were down there for twenty minutes and they're making four or five phone calls they can't get a hold of anybody you know we can't because those individuals that are evidence techs take care of the jailer also responding to calls on the road so we can spend all night down there with them but then if they  do get a hold or say they want to make a couple more phone calls we got a hold their mother or whatever now they got a call when they said well you better call so and so and so and so and make arrangements after that initial call then they have to buy another phone call a phone card yes even now that they would have to go in their cell and then they would have to try to make a collect call on those phones to a landline somewhere that would be there there are one only option right now but if we implement this phone card system they can purchase a phone card make a phone call to anyone or they can still make the collect call from that that same phone to a landline and they can do either or dave made a comment about expense i mean these phone cards exorbitant or just how do you sell those phone how do you how do you make arrangements with these phone cards as far away when they were just purchased some they're a five dollar increments it by a five dollar phone card we give them or see it in their booking  property we have on the cameras we have all kinds of cameras down there all over so that's not going to be an issue that would go there into a drawer they would get a written receipt that goes into their belongings and when they get out they would have that receipt showing can we can restrict unalloyed them to make any phone calls for those exact reason so that they get initial phone call to inform someone they are in jail and then they are placed in an area where they are not allowed to make any for their phone motion passes thank you that brings us to the five one the city managers office is pleased to report the following gifts parks recreation and transportation department received a twenty five dollars donation in support of repairs to the windmill does watch in memory of georgia even see a fifty dollar donation to the graphic nature center for environmental education was also received in memory of dr william aren't source and received from warren west foundation donations totaling thirty one dollars has been received in support of the cell perez used scholarship fund from whitney gaspar melissa lisa cox donations totally in two thousand seven hundred dollars has been received in support of the run of the mill fundraiser event that is scheduled to be held on april twentieth and storage russ's restaurant the dykstra family and hayworth incorporated a four hundred dollars donation has also been received from the community foundation  support of the world war two memorial garden maintenance international relations commission has received donations totally in one thousand two hundred dollars in support of the upcoming international relations commission festival from the alliance for cultural and ethnic harmony weller language services had no lakeshore ethnic diversity alliance de boer bakery hayworth and anonymous donor public safety services department the fire division received a five hundred dollar donation from some go energy in support of the public safety education prevention programs it is recommended that the said donations be accepted with appreciation and an expression of gratitude be forwarded to the donors what does the pleasure of counsel motion do except with appreciation support to item five or city budget schedule the public hearing mr city manager thank you mayor pro tem the budget is six hundred thirteen pages and i have only about six of them to show you tonight prior to your proposal your recommended action to set a public hearing from a first on a proposed tax rate of fifteen point one zero eight five mils that is no different than last year in terms of the millage the few slides i do want to show is to recognize that the total city budget has revenues totaling two hundred fifteen million eight hundred one thousand three hundred eighty four dollars and that is to a large part  given the utilities electric water and wastewater utilities that's matched essentially by expenditures also associated a lot with the utility part of the budget the general fund budget however is only twenty million three hundred twenty two thousand and seventy two dollars in terms of revenue and half of that is from property taxes expenditures is approximately that is well there's a small surplus about three thousand dollars and roughly half of that is for public safety and other uses are shown there there will be more details provided at the full public hearing on may first so individuals who are interested in learning more of the details can either access the entire six hundred thirteen pages at the library city clerk's office city manager's office there's another location as well and and of course it's on the web it's on our home page this is the breakdown for the tax rate and the bottom line is fifteen point one zero eight five nos for fiscal year fourteen same as fiscal year thirteen and you can see the breakdown you will note that capital has been able to increase this year by virtue of additional revenue there is two point six percent additional revenue about  a little over half of that is due to increased taxable value in the other is due to the state statutory revenue sharing increases as well as some other minor revenue changes and of course  expenditures have been contained to a large extent for all kinds of reasons over the past five years thanks to the actions of this council in previous ministration and current members of the staff team which enabled us to maintain services while living within those tax rates the this shows the same thing i just showed you that on a tabular basis in terms of mills fifteen point one mills this juncture i'm going to fast forward through and which is a slide that best represents what is actually happening for the average residential tax payer sense the economic downturn occurred in two thousand and eight  there's been a drop in actual out of pocket expense to the average taxpayer as low as ten percent and with the increase in tax will value even though the tax rate did not change there is a bit and and to otherwise be prepared to act on the budget i may first thank you ryan before us is to schedule the public hearing for two weeks from tonight may first our first business meeting it may as is required by the city charter and i should say as per the attached resolution yes yes we have that we have that any discussion on the matter klump are ok i will support those that we bring into the next level however i think between now and the next time we meet i would encourage all of us to really seriously think about our budget i'm thinking of our unemployed citizens so i'm thinking of are underemployed taxpayers i'm thinking of our senior citizens with fixed income but our neighbors are working poor those who are living from paycheck to paycheck in this community those who are struggling to pay for food and fuel and a future for themselves and what is really different between this year and last year is that we basically have had an increase of one point four percent in property values and you can't property values unless you sell your home i mean your structure a little better but i think we really have to look at this and we really have to think about the time that we're living in and we've decreased starfire people we've decreased our human relationship position a little bit are reasonable i think the budget as given to us was well done with graphs and charts and commend them for doing an awesome job but i think we really need to take a fine tooth comb and take a really careful look at it and  and i support your notion on this my gosh i don't think i've voted yes on a budget yet so yeah i know that surprises you doesn't it ri but you know this one is presented recently and i agree with you that it is as it's presented it's good but i've supported us trying to reduce milage and so  i applaud you for bringing it up you know the way i'm viewing this budget this year is it is much is in my gut i'd really like to see us bring that milledge rate  down you know back to where it was in the pre crisis if you will you know we talked about it earlier in the study session we talked to the end of our budget session and that's all these capital needs that we have you know  our business model is largely human capital but we also have a great deal of concrete sidewalk and roads and pipe since part since cemeteries and things like that that those people work in and work on and our as much as i'd like to bring that down and quite frankly if in the weeks ahead of us there's enough votes to bring it down wayne i'm in behind you but i'm also here to say that as i see it right now if there's votes for it as it's presented because sky investment in those capital infrastructure pieces that mike you said earlier it's not going to get cheaper it's not going to get cheaper our cut our construction cost index  is probably as low as we're going to see it historically and so you know that the prudent thing is if in fact this is the budget we go if we get at those capital needs when we start rolling out that plan to take care of those things so hopefully ten years from now we're back on schedule for the one in twenty touch on our roads instead of the one in thirty three the parks in the cemeteries have that perpetual care that mike so passionate about mouth the agree i want to affirm where you're headed and again if if there's five four and i'm with you so just wanted to say that out loud ating anything else that's going to be announced that we have a lot going on the master plan has been kicked off by communion neighborhood services they have a very key meeting tomorrow at four o'clock in this building to kick that off and solicit public input at six o'clock the human relations commission will determine their goals and that's something that they've worked hard on a number of meet meetings and i think are very important given some things we need to work on in the community i also want to say that we have some you know our city staff is extremely professional and very just so instrumental and positive in so many ways it's hard to begin to say where they should be recognized the most but i do want to point out something that you may not be aware we have to department directors that are underwriting participation at the good samaritan lunch that their annual dinner and also the heights of hope and your lunch  these agencies benefit are the least advantaged and some of our most challenging areas in our community and i just really appreciate the two department heads for making those resources available so that others can be part of that event and underwriting it and lastly speaking of city staff we have an individual forty years who is retiring and it's a week from friday and that's requirement so there will be a reception in his honor i believe in this room at two mayor and sitting in his stead the saving i will simply remind the community of a couple of other events that are coming up this saturday we hope the weather cooperates but we have the run of the mill which is to support the restoration has won and also six thirty in the evening i believe it is project restoration which will  a gathering and a silent auction also to support the restoration of the windmill will be an enjoyable time and would encourage everybody to turn out for that also and on this the weather has not cooperated we are still intending if possible to do a controlled burn in the mactel marsh and the purpose of that is  to keep in check or eliminate invasive vegetative species called frag mighty s but it's pretty hard to start a fire when you had a day like we did today so we're hoping to get that  yet it is a controlled burn and the fire division of public safety will be the on guard and making sure that that comes off safely  having said those two things if you do have comments or questions for us we always encourage you to contact us as you know we are available  e mail there's a wealth of information on the city and its operations on the web as well as all of our e mail addresses and on our on the city's web page there is contact information  that you can reach each one of us in our three shifts jobs just relating then on behalf of the appointment again she was on and off and with the on again to the sustainability commission committee that to expire december thirty of this year to appoint a latests but officio term which will expire march thirty one of twenty sixteen and we have no real appointments to make this time we do know one resignation keith mom stet d p w representative on or whiteman all in favor of those nominations please indicate by saying i i thank you brings us down to communications from council members council members that have anything to bring before the organization or to the community tonight term expiring on january thirty one of two thousand and sixteen retroactive reappointment of john smith to the board of canvassers same effective date of february sixteenth to an expiration date of december thirty one twenty ask for clarification i know my math isn't very good at nine thirty at night but if we're looking for a four year term from two thousand and thirteen to twenty sixteen i believe that's only a three year term of thirteen  fourteen all the fifteen she done in january sixteenth it's only three years i don't know if this was to an  i don't mind reappointing her but let's get some clarification and when or term is actually expiring or correct the terminology from a four year two or three year i would recommend i would recommend that the counsel make the appointment and then we can clarify that if it's necessary at the next meeting we can do an amendment to the appointment perfect that emotion mr mayor pro tem i don't know was it was your were you making the motion i cannot make a motion from the chair