so between my junior and senior year and it was in fort benning georgia which was filled with red clay those of the infantry people remember and that's where i went from my basic office training corps why enlisted listed in those days when you became a sophomore in college you had to make a decision do you either not continue in the school i went to h military you had to be in the r t c program for the st two years not true in a lot of schools but in the because school i went to that was a compulsory training and at that time you made a decision whether you were going to continue and go into the service and once you did that you basically enlisted through your junior and senior year and at that particular time one shoe enlisted you were in so if you dropped out of college you would go directly into the service for training as an enlisted man once you graduated under the aero t c program they sent you to a specific branch school the particular branch i was in fortunately for me was the adjutant general cor business that was ran the business of the of the military and that was in indiana indianapolis indiana what benjamin harrison it was different you had to you had classes in the military subjects you wore uniform once a week drill and at the particular school that i was in and it was early this was in the sixty one the really anti vietnam war incident was just had really get going until i was probably a senior and was in the service i was trained to go to colleges and recruit officers for the army which by the time of one thousand nine hundred and fifty four came no longer was allowed so no military was allowed on all college campuses for that purpose i served in jacksonville florida i was stationed in what they call an atheist station which was the armed forces entry station where and when you were drafted or elicit you went for your physical examination your testing and everything else and that's where i served was on the base of the jacksonville naval air station so the toughest part of the job i had was number one to i had to go a couple times  and tell a parent and a spouse that their son or husband had died in vietnam i only had to do that twice thank god it was a terrible terrible experience but i did plan a lot of military funerals because once they were told of the casualty then you had to go in plan and arrange for the bodies or come in and everything else this this was the toughest part of what i did when i was stationed there well when i was in the military in florida it was a different part of the world and it was a very highly many military bases in the jacksonville area mostly naval bases so i never really received some anti war type reactions to my service however if you get back to this part of the world when i came back it there was some antiwar but it was it was different because you never  that base you never wore a uniform you were never seen in uniform because of this this anti war type thing going on and so it was it was a lot different then and i always say it's such it's such a it's a very interesting period of time because a lot of those people were drafted and served in the service really not of their own decision and i dealt with that and they were held in very low a scene even though that wasn't their choice where now soldier is as you see applauded in recognized and they're all volunteers where then it was twenty five percent more just didn't want to go believe me they don't want to go because they put him in so so quite a different experience you've got to remember now we're talking about the draft so if i went to college and i was i had worked a few years before i'd gone to yes did i think my father was my father in paris recognize that it was a necessity thing  i don't know if they were overly patriotic but they were patriotic my father served in world war two as a coast guard reserve ist which basically meant he guarded the providence harbor well in those days you got to remember that i had a two year active duty commitment and then i had spent two years in the an active reserve unit which meant i went once a month and two weeks in the summer and i was stationed at the boston army base where when my reserve was and  we went to various places for our training and then once i actually had was went on with my career right after i got out of the service i end up in the financial business i  and so my transition was not very difficult i got to be honest with you however i have friends who are veterans and relative who was a veteran that had some difficulty but but overall my experience was not too bad i was always a i was always firm believer that military training was a really strong part of my life and i felt that i learned a tremendous amount and that maybe some type of it's very hard to say now in this active wars and things going on that some type of military training compulsory training would be of benefit to a lot of a reality check you could understand that i was from a small town in new england from an upper middle class family and i heard about all the things that were happening from racial things to all that was going on and until i went to that office training corps in fort benning georgia had never seen it there i saw it where honestly i was clearly not one of the leaders in that course i was not a military type and yet i saw some people were from the it was from the university of puerto rico they were better than me i was always ranked higher than them and it was clearly purely a look a racial look at that particular time i think today it's it's again you have to evaluate your own goals your own  needs and what you want to do and realize is that it is a tremendous learning experience but create but you're stepping into a very dangerous part and that you have to realize before you make that decision all the