all right i'm going to call the city council caucus meeting to order i apologize for the delay but we were in executive session for some claims issues and so we have one public hearing if the clerk would read that public area number one regarding an ordinance to amend section eighty seven dash six and eighty seven there are thirty of the code of the city of schenectady during management health benefits rights as a said that will be our only public hearing tonight so we'll go on to the items for original consideration item number one item number one for final consideration in ordinance amending section two forty eight of the code of the city of schenectady regarding telling phase right this was discussed in committee without objection on consent item number two item number two for original consideration an ordinance amending zoning from an m to manufacturing  residential district for property had twenty eight seventy six and twenty nine hundred olean street introduced only with a resolution calling for a public airing on the above proposed ordinance for july twenty second two thousand and thirteen right discussed in committee without objection on consent i don't number three item number three a resolution authorizing a appropriation of the two thousand and thirteen budget related to the golf course discussed in committee without objection on consent item number four i'm going to pull off the agenda we plan to recess this meeting tonight for another issue and i want us to discuss this again on monday night at five thirty so  president he's ok just like i just look at for a little clarification with regard to the item number one i don't see there in the language of where they are it's an accident that the fee would not be charged to the person unless it was an unlawful situation if corporation counsel pointed out to me please you look at the the last resolution that's in your package it is the resolution that is setting the fees if you remember where there has been an ordinance where there is a fee to be charged  the council has established a recent policy that the fees themselves would be set by resolution as opposed to changing the ordinance so that you can change in time to time as you deem appropriate without having to go through the full procedure to pass an ordinance and if you look at the first paragraph of the resolution not the where asses but it reads it starts out and so on it goes on still be charged for each vehicle that is subject to a city ordered toto resulting from any incident wherein the operator of the vehicle was issued a citation for a violation of the schenectady city code or the new york state vehicle and traffic law welcome all right  number five a resolution setting the fee referenced in the city code section two zero four republican sample inspections discussed in committee without objection on consent item number six item number six a resolution authorizing the city of schenectady to enter into a contract with and accept a grant from the new york state department of criminal justice services discussed in committee without objection on consent item number seven i don't number seven a resolution authorizing the city to enter into a contract with and accept a grant from the us department of justice edward burma morial justice assistant grant program also discussed in committee without objection on consent item number eight item number eight resolution authorizing the city to enter into an agreement with the county of schenectady relative to hazard hazardous materials mr ag roll call vote ok item number nine i number nine a resolution authorizing the city to enter into an operating agreement with the young woman's christian association northeastern new york for use operation and maintenance of the front street pool facility also discussed in committee without objection on consent item number ten item number ten a resolution authorizing cornell's restaurant to serve alcoholic beverages for its annual little italy fest on september seventh two thousand and thirteen discussed in committee without objection on consent item number eleven item number eleven a resolution authorizing the transfer of title of fifteen fifty one forrester avenue consisting of s b l thirty nine point five days two days two five discussed in committee without objection on consent i don't number twelve item number twelve a resolution authorizing the settlement of a tax or sure wary concerning one nine seven clement avenue one nine five climate avenue one two eight clayton road and one seven three gifford road also discussed in committee without objection on consent item number thirteen item number thirteen a resolution authorizing the settlement of a tax or sure wherry concerning ten sixteen states straight also settlement of a claim by robert stern also discussed in committee without objection on consent item number seventeen item number seventeen a resolution to help provide additional protection to crossing guards by calling for the new york state assembly to pass bill a thirty seven fifty seven new york state senate to pass bill s one twenty two in urging governor andrew cuomo to sign the aforementioned bills into law can't believe will take this out of order mrs brecker will present right item number eighteen item number eighteen a resolution recognizing newest launch restaurant for being in business for ninety two years also i believe we're taking this out of order this porterfield you're pretending ok number ms porterfield all in favor right then i will there by call the the city council caucus meeting for july eighth twenty thirteen to order a few please rise for the invocation by reverend arthur butler most gracious father most loving creator we invite you into this hole and we invite you into these proceedings we invite your spirit of unity we invite you tonight to come and and help these people do your business we ask that you bless each and every one we ask that you carry your spirit through so that the work can be done and that the people can be served we ask these blessings and august last and knowing that they come from you and the most highest highest regards to your name and who you unaided from came to this country and settled here in the mohawk valley in what is now schenectady in over the years there has evolved they come rothery a friendship between the two cities which  finally formalized this year between night kirk and schenectady adopting sister city relationship and the mayor of ny kirk in was very gracious and was also somewhat disappointed that unfortunately county and some other conflicts in our schedule was not able to make the trip this year and so he asked me to do to a presentation that he had hoped to do a night kirk when you came this year and they are all so excited night kirk that because you know we televised our committee meetings and council meetings for a long time here in that this meeting is being webcast and so people in ny kirk are also watching the ceremony in the  kirk told me that he will be watching this and that group of people there will be partaking in this presentation and so that i'm his substitute or tonight in that appreciate everyone coming down here but county the city of involved with them to schenectady ny kirk council for more than thirty years in this period a strong bond has arose and between the two cities because of the strong bond it is possible to have exchanges every year our youngsters get the possibility to know each other's cultures and to stay and host families in another country this is also your effort your dedication for the people of ny kirk achieve that so many people in schenectady also cared for the strong bond between these two sister cities and that is the reason for this medal of honor and i hope you will join the schenectady ny kirk council for many more years and i expressed the hope that our mutual friendship will this whole crew laura linder was actually the first person that worked on the exchanges and she deserves a lot of credit she's been with it all the way but thank you i appreciate it and could say do i miss them i wished i were there but circumstances are with a hour and you had to make tough decisions sometimes and this with it and gary i thank you for representing this is a row there goes this is a resolution to help provide additional protection to crossing guards by calling for the new york say december to pass bill a thirty seven fifty seven in the new york state senate to pass a bill s one twenty two and also urging governor into cuomo to sign the aforementioned bills into law and we're hoping that as soon as they get back into session this will be the first thing on all of their desks and they'll pay direct attention to it i understand that there is a representative here from new york state whereas new york state crossing guards have a vet assigned to assist over three million children in the state of new york to cross safely various roadways on their daily commute to and from school each day in whereas new york state school crossing guards have the additional responsibility of even crossing guards at their assigned post into whereas while on duty for several years school crossing guards have been subject to harassment threats assaults injury and even death simply because they're fulfilling duty to their job school district school children municipality the state and whereas we need to better protect our school crossing guards who while on duty in alt at least better protect the children of our state and others who may be injured by road rage vehicle operators and angry pedestrians and whereas other municipal and state employees have been afforded extra protection under our laws because of the dangerous nature of the jobs they perform and where as time has come to better protect our new york state crossing guards in whereas new york state crossing guards are valuable civil servants and we need to help them feel safe and be safe while they perform their extremely important job of protecting our state's children and adults why they cross or intersection in whereas new york state assembly bill a thirty seven fifty seven and the senate bill of new york s one twenty two will amend the penal law in relation to including the assault of a school crossing guard within the offense of assault in the second degree and whereas the purpose of these acts is to increase the penalty for assaulting a school guard while on duty or otherwise on school grounds now therefore be it resolved that the city of schenectady firmly calls for our state legislators to pass thirty seven fifty seven n s one twenty two and be it further resolved that certified copies of this resolution will be forward to governor to thank the city of schenectady the city council the mayor for doing this in new york city we have roughly two hundred school crossing guards who cross one point one million children each day  some of the lost their lives some of been beaten up so badly and sent to the hospitals that they never return to their jobs causing other school crossing guards to be afraid to walk out into the middle of an intersection when i started this mission i started visiting other m and i realized that it was happening all over the state it's happening in new jersey and other parts of the country as well so in behalf of or on behalf of local three seventy two as well as the president local local three seventy two  i want to thank you again for your help your resolution and we hope if there's anything that we can do for the city of schenectady please don't hesitate to ask thank you thank you president you have the floors of a resolution recognizing the response for ninety two years in business in the city of cincinnati whereas june two thousand and thirteen marked the fiftieth anniversary of small business week proclaimed by president john f hundred sixty three to entrepreneurs yearly and whereas the newest lunch located at seven fifteen albany street is the oldest running restaurant in schenectady family owned and operated since the doors opened in one thousand nine hundred one and currently managed and angelo whereas the unique family style of business allows the customer to receive not just a meal but also an experience newest has maintained a pillar of the community serving its famous hotdogs topped with meat sauce gyros and breakfasts all day long and whereas as new his popularity has grown it has become a neighborhood melting pot and in one thousand nine hundred to expand its operations to include new pizza at the same location and whereas the restaurant features a unique photo display of customers throughout the year years which represent the melting pot which is newest lunch where you can find judges and neighborhood residents see it alongside each other and everyone is treated with courtesy and respect and whereas although the recipe of the famous meat sauce is the secret to longevity it's no mystery that the strong commodity work ethic of the employees core family values excellent customer service and a lot of love has helped us launch thriving for over ninety years out of bring your family or whatever you have with you don't be shy models run a business downtown and there's no been no bigger cheerleader to build a lot for downtown over the years and sorry to see him go back to maryland and also sorry that your orioles speak my yankees pretty good but what could you do so that resolution whereas bill bloch grew up in baltimore maryland the son of a business owner who won't several gas stations and whereas bill began working as a tire changer in a good year company owned store while he was still in high school moved through the ranks and ultimately retired from goodyear in one thousand nine hundred six as the albany district manager and whereas bill then started his own business in schenectady family tire noddle service which has operat for the past twenty seven years and where as bill built his business on customer service honesty and providing quality work to the residents of schenectady and whereas bill has announced that he is retiring and selling family tire noddle service and whereas demonstrating his devotion to his employees and to his customers bill isn't sure that the company has purchased the business from him will retain all the employees bill currently employs now therefore be it resolved that the mayor city council and all the president king council members audience thank you this is a deeply appreciated recognition and be part of my skin any memories for a long time to come if i could just digress for successful business person secondly the people that work at the store the guys and gals over the years they provided a great service which allowed me the time to be away from the store to spend time on my volunteer efforts most importantly our customers we've been blessed to have many customers with ten fifteen twenty twenty five even twenty seven years of service coming to our facility the last group that i want to acknowledge and share this with is the countless number of volunteers that i've been associated with for twenty seven years and schenectady schenectady has something really unique when it comes to volunteer spirit and i think it that spirit is what makes this community so strong and i have no doubt it will continue in the future thank you thank you kelly and i have worked together on the d s i seaboard he kept his business in downtown when downtown wasn't thriving and he's been involved the schenectady day nursery and i probably countless other organizations south you're going to be a mess that we wish all the best all right we will now move to the public hearing this is regarding an ordinance to amend section eighty seven dash six and eighty seven dash thirty of the code of the sea he of schenectady relating to management health benefits i have one person signed good evening my name is linda keller i'm just wondering this is a sheet of paper that we received about this public you're not really sure what we're amending it to other than if we're just a leading this or how it's being changed so i think before we could even vote on this i think the people should have a right to know what's being done thank you ok thank you all right we will then move to the approval of the minutes for june twenty fourth twenty thirteen this is record is it second venice brazel all in favor i thank you communications and petitions communications presented to the city council for monday july eighth two thousand and thirteen under official from the mayor a list of appointments dated seven eight thirteen under general there are none under petitions there are no in favor i and we have one roll call vote if the clerk would read that item number eight a resolution authorizing the city to enter into an agreement with the county of schenectady relative to hazards materials right does anyone want to speak to that before we do the roll call yes just to quickly explain my vote of i think this is the right thing but it's being done for the wrong reasons or definitely some political undertones to this in my opinion and that's why i think it has so i will be voting no thank you miscarrying i write so the motion care actually carries and i just realized i skipped over privileges a floor related to the legislative agenda so let me backtrack a little bit here and linda keller her dollars of taxpayers money to rehab it and as he spoke at the last council meeting and now you agree it's more cost effective to demolish to build into rehab however the building remains a property in the responsibility of the private developer and as such the city taxpayer should not be footing the five hundred thousand dollars cost to demolish the building the developer is one of the largest developers in the state and as i understand it he bought the building for the cost of its water bill before he bought the building he knew or at least the city should have disclosed to him that there was his best this in the building it would have to be removed and it's a costly process the building it's his property and not the city taxpayers the cost of the demolition responsibility not the city taxpayers it is not the taxpayers responsible to demolish the responsibility demolish or pay for the demolition of the building for the developers housing project not one cent and certainly not half a million dollars in taxpayer money should be considered forgiven as it is a gift to this developer to see taxpayers are not or should not be considered blank checks for developers projects why not explore other funding relit like brownfield money furthermore the borrower have the money for the demolition of the city owned properties and for the demolition of the old building are separate luck thank you thank you robert sanders situation but you know it was the average person that you know their car was sad now live day after day after day and that's not what a schenectady person supposed to be put through no way you they treat the people skin activity and i find it just sad there has to be some kind of way that the city council sits down with these towing people and i've heard towing people come up to me at my job and they say well i need a public defender we're making no money well you know why you're not making the money you're ripping people off i mean that's the way i look at it i mean i'm out for a fair profit for everybody but at the same time you know when you won't talk car into a person struggling to house two houses away when i'm sitting at a mailbox there's a problem and you know like i said everything worked out but that's a tall situation in the city of schenectady thank  very grand residence can i today i'm concerned about this loan you want to take for three million dollars and propose five hundred thousand for the building i'm not street to d s spilling i don't know who owns that building if the city owns it that's one thing and we may have an obligation there but if she owns that building and we should keep our money in our own first of all we can't even pay the loan so we have  what to tear down some of these deteriorated buildings in a city i can understand to improve the conditions here in our city but for not street and for a large contractor i feel absolutely no money should be spent for that to tear it down to decontaminate is that whatever mr lease he wants to do with that building let him do with it a feel that there is nothing here in the loan saying a who owns the building i don't know who owns the building but if he owns it that should be his full responsibility and the city should get away from it we've got so much money we could spend here to help this city oh and these homes that sat around here for years that need to be torn down and you want to take the bother with that one on not street that doesn't look that bad compared to what we got here burned out homes all or all through water city and i say we should not give him a dollar two for anything i'm not property with that building thank you thank you i have no one else signed up to speak to the legislative agenda on you know as far as the caber and all this money that's being spent i see i see mr mr mccarthy is out to dinner all the time i wonder a form you know the city's good and like to hope for that because a lot of lavish dinners are going on as you know pretty big there with on what i want to say is i've been getting maliciously prosecuted left and right and getting beat by the long arm of the law over here and these guys don't have a case at all i mean look there's over one hundred arrests in here police contacts and i'll hold these people up this is an official been given by the d a i only got convicted three times out of a hundred something times that i'm getting represented by public defenders who their hands are tied or they're just surreptitiously dealing with the d a and i want to talk about you know i've been i've been talking about mechanisms and facets and whatnot and the thing is there's just so many and you really wouldn't even be able to identify him unless you were you know affected by him and the thing is i've been going through this this whole gauntlet of being prosecuted here in schenectady simply just because i came out and blew the whistle on certain things and i've been getting selectively targeted in i mean my blood pressure is through the roof and it's crazy and you know and then when i come in here and say i got evidence to prove this  i'm going to get lost like my thought but anyway i've been i've been using for oil for a while to get a lot of this information that i have like squad car videos different things and whatnot i got three different appeals from these three different convictions and one one of the one of the convictions was from like eleven years ago the other one was from eight and the most recent was from like three years ago i haven't got my i haven't got my transcripts for any of them which criminal i mean that's a violation of my sixth amendment right to due process you know and i'm not even good in that and it's just because they want to cover up the judicial abuse the misconduct the of the cops that perjured themselves on the stand the way that i fired my attorney right in the midst of things and started cross examining on and basically eliciting lies you know from from these guys and and  myself vindicated you know and the thing is i'm being prosecuted there's this one person they forwarded a letter to the d a and said that just as just a little excerpt from a with with this person wrote through this tough time i realized that the incident that occurred last year between donald birch the third and i was just a misunderstanding and things said could have been misconstrued on my part and they still want to prosecute me you know much money it takes to like to prosecute somebody and go through all these little more like i know i know you're going to say summarize is also a brown lunch brown bag lunch there this friday and new please bring your lunch and enjoy the garden and good conversation with the youth involved in the program i've enjoyed many brown bag lunches there it is so refreshing to hear the young people speaks are probably what they're doing there the smoke house provided by the skin of the fire department i have copies of both of these for the council and for the city clerk thank you thank you and we certainly can use the tax money one of my concerns is this that there's only one complete stupor market in the city and we have i'd say gruffly fifty five thousand people living here one complete stupor market on easter now i don't understand it that we can't get more supermarkets in his city these farmers markets are wonderful but there's many people here in the city that can afford them and there's a lot of things there that are are not available to these people fresh fruits and vegetables that's great but if we need more supermarkets in this city besides a fleet one on the street have the next thing i like to talk about is  there's nothing happening that's been there since before winter probably doesn't know at least november december that the concrete been falling off now you're going to put a hundred eighty two hundred people from the white there what mass you've got to garages there are some old one them open up until ten eleven o'clock at night traffic blocked off trucks hauling in cars blocking off the street no no room for parking they used to have a dumpster the overflowing now they got a trailer there overflowing i don't know where you're coming from i don't know where you're going to study but boy we need a lot of proof thank you robert sanders andrew lanza thirty seven thirty four it's for a child care reform act and i think it's a major piece of legislation to put forward one thing it doesn't do it doesn't change any of the child support standard x and i think this was a major piece of but just a piece when they wrote the legislation so you know anybody who's getting support they don't have to worry about support being changed but what it dives is people that live in the same county or people that have relationships that get along where there's no parenting where there is an orders of protection where you get along if there's a double wars or there's some type of separation you could actually have some type of custody a fifty fifty type of relationship now this bill hasn't made its way  humid a little bit more friendly to the bell it's going to take a little bit more coasting i gave you the bill i hope you read the bill i'm a consultant for the family civil liberties union that they come out in new york state they have over seven thousand members that wrote that bill i actually would like to take some of the language that councilman brother had and slam it into that bill next year actually the bill is good for two years which we've made progress which we've made a lot of progress in society this is just another step forward of ok in society so i would like you to read the bill look over the bill mayor to look over the bill and if you want to write a resolution write a love resolution if you don't want to write a resolution don't write a resolution but it's another cure society from one who works again look or believe me i know good evening push all sin city of schenectady here's a couple of the things that i just want to mention measure you know we've been out getting signatures on petitions and in doing so i've talked to some residents of my district is thirty two and so i've talked to some residents up here and i know that issues in hamilton hill have been brought forth on numerous occasions but i just wanted to bring to your attention some of the things that a couple of the residents have said and one thing is that they're asking that if it's possible somewhere around hamilton hill or needs to be a stop sign because you have the art center there and children are going back and forth across the streets i don't know if it could be on hamilton in schenectady street but if somebody could look into it and see if that's a possibility the other thing is there there was an issue i guess on fourth of july police were called took a couple of hours there were like fifty kids in the street fighting and it took a couple hours before the police responded i don't know if they thought it was not important i'm not real sure but when you have that many kids gather together you don't know what's going on so if lisa call i think they need to be to respond i mean even if they just calm in and say you know you need to disperse something needs to happen and that didn't happen i think it was an hour hour and a half later before somebody showed up to take a look and this was on hamilton hill and the other thing is there's a car parked on schenectady street like i don't know a few feet back from hamilton hill that's been parked there for a long time i don't understand how this car can stay parked there because people gather there they hane the air people sit in the car people sleep in the car there's a lot of think that car should not still be there and it's been there for as long as i can remember and just because it has tags on it doesn't mean that it should continue to sit there it needs to be something needs to happen with it because the person that owns that car thinks it's ok i came down hamilton hill you come in here to gamble and him jerry burrell park is ridiculous i mean just me in the middle of the day you see young people in the pavilion throwing bikes that should not be happening that the park was put here in the equipment was put there for the children they can't even go to the park because of the game when in the drugs it needs to be looked into i have mentioned this before but i don't know than anything happened on and i just wanted to say that you know people want him to nail home on him  t you know on homes they pay taxes they need to be recognized as well as anybody else thank you ok thank you what do we have to to take it from there we'd be happy to go what's the next step me and my members of the thank you very much ok thank you good evening i want to say good evening to our honorable mayor madam king there the president and city council members and all of the public and i just wanted to share something with you about the hug williams helping hands committee this committee was formed in two thousand and nine and it was named after a wonderful community leader brother hughes williams formed before he passed away to honor him and we stayed together after his was william's helping hands committee a five zero one c three not for profit group of myself and nine other sisters and i'm just going to say their first names christine beatrice marva mae esta mona beverly and dawn our mission statement is very full and i'm just going to say a few things from it what our mission statement is is we want to provide an academic i could demick donations to cultivate leadership foster self worth responsibility and pride through local fund raising efforts and private donations we've had many successful successful things that we've done things like making donations to the craig street boys and girls club the carver community center the hamilton hill arts center and we help sponsor a young lady go abroad with the people to people program working with the elderly and doing holiday baskets and food baskets to people at the ten eyck and one person at summit towers i want to mention that on saturday july twenty seventh at the harmony hall banquet all at fourteen ten states st we are going to be giving a function that is going to be something that's honoring saluting recognizing some women in the community did many lives and worked tire we're going to be honoring mrs marilyn lyons mrs martha a lot of people know her as miss martha reeves also miss melissa lewis and instead of a shooting on hamilton hill we're going to be doing the sharing and the thing about it is we want to know if the city council will help us in any way possible we also want to find out from you here at the city council if there's anyone that we can help what i want to be able to speak to you about as we want to be able to develop an ongoing relationship with the city council so we meet every third thursday of the month at six p m at the carb or library and what i'd like to say more is that a lot of times people are recognized for the great things that they do they work and they and they do things and they never even look for recognition so we've chosen three women and we're calling this women and i've got some flyers here women of action so before i close and i know my time to sit out i want to thank you city council for the things that you've done your strong city council and for me if there's any one of you they'd like to i have some tickets if you'd like a ticket or a flyer more than happy to get one to you but the key the key thing here is we're honoring women who don't usually get recognized his age i need you to summarize yes may i say the ticket prices are now that are right you know mine ok it starts at four o'clock on saturday july twenty seventh at the harmony banquet hall twenty dollars a ticket and for children twelve and over it's ten dollars and we would just love to have your support and just to let you know that wonderful things are happening in schenectady and you all keep up the very good work thank you thank you irene cron n mayor mccarthy city council members my name is i mean conan and i live in the little section of mom pleasant near the post office that a lot of people forget about but we have had several burglaries within the past couple of years and i would like to address a burglary that just happened to me this past weekend i went away for a couple days on the fourth of july and returned home one saturday and at three thirty m and i immediately noticed that my laptop was missing so i and then i also noticed a drawer obviously someone had been in my home so i called the police and i was told to tak inventory and then an officer would be up shortly so i went up to my bedroom and i saw that several everything was dumped on my bad drawers were opened and they only took really good jewelry that you know they left costume jewelry heirlooms that you know can't be replaced and two hours went by and then i called the police again and i was told that they were very busy going along with the response so i decided to do some yard work and i noticed that my hedge clippers and garden gloves were missing which was pretty creepy and so another two hours went by and i was unable to leave my house for fear that i would miss an officer so finally at eleven thirty p m this it started at three thirty p m i called and i was told that there was an emergency and so i fell asleep exhausted frustrated and a little anxious and so i woke up to a message actually i didn't hear the message until the next morning but there was a message on my cell phone that happened at three fifteen a m indicating that there was an officer outside my house and could i come outside well obviously i didn't because i was asleep so the next morning instead of calling i went to church and then i went over to the police station and i explained the situation to the officer there he was very accommodating and he said that i speak to you so therefore that's why i'm here is because he said that they are so short staffed and therefore there could be no response so anyway throughout all of this i remain really calm patient and really i mean obviously anybody who's been burglarize i never have before felt very violated and really didn't feel protected by the people that i thought were there to protect me and perhaps if we install cameras as was mentioned in today's paper sure there was something in the gazette today perhaps if we install some cameras even over near us by anchors fish right by the post office we definitely could use with them and also we would like to see the tunnel that leads from watts street that goes down to hamburg street blocked off but i would like to acknowledge one officer jeremy pace for his professionalism and his helpfulness thank you ok thank you mary mclean good evening my name is mary mclean and i live in the said hey there may have been a misunderstanding of my comments at the last council meeting i did not object to the workers over time it was necessary that the city workers playing up after the storm of may twenty seven regardless of the time of day i am glad that no one was injured and everyone was safe though view is a great neighborhood and the residents got the best the city had to offer the workers answered the call a superb job thank you everyone thank you all right i have no one else signed up so i'm going to declare this portion of the meeting closed to move on to miscellaneous business of the council and we voted prior to the public speaking section do we need to go back and vote again this is a technicality are we clear did say didn't we vote early before we had public speaking yes do we from a technicality standpoint need to vote again since we voted prior to just not that might pose a change or just saying we want to make sure  to say so yeah basically regarding the item that we did pull off and we had some people speaking tonight in terms of the economic development monies that we would be spending on street you know clearly a controversial topic the city council really a i think this council doesn't have a lot of experience doing economic development this is usually something that for the past bunch of years metroplex has really been doing in the city  so we really haven't spent a lot of money doing economic development or redevelopment of major funding of major development and so we've got to make sure we we take it slow and you are right and have a plan and a process in place for doing this initially this idea started out as a one point three million dollar investment to you know rebuild the renovate this structure  now changed to a demolition type of project and clearly there are people who would like to not like those ideas and i understand that i think for this to go forward in i'm you know flexible in terms of being willing to do this a couple of different ways but i think that we need to make sure from accounts as perspective that we make sure that there's a timeframe in place contractually bound  for rebuilding i think that the contract would need to specify that the payment would be made after a new building is constructed not after demolition because my concern is that if we were to demolish and had an empty lot and then reconstruction was delayed we wouldn't be getting a return on our investment this is a half million dollar invest have another concern regarding pilots and how the tax would be administered for the property once it's redeveloped and i think we need to make sure we understand those things before we go through it as has been held off for a week so we first of all i would like to extend my sympathy to the family of courtney erickson certainly a great loss to the city to all the different organizations that he was involved with and you know i only got to know him within the past couple years but certainly he made an impact on my life and obviously with the turnout at his fundraiser as well as his his home calling he also made an impact on a lot of people so i just want to express my sympathy to his family regarding the stop sign which was brought up burrell park this is something that we've been discussing and working on with john from signal control and so i'd like to to let people know that there first of all there are going to be fluorescent at play signs that are going to be going up around the park so that people know the slowdown that there are children in the area additionally with regard to the stop signs and where where they can be located show has looked at the new york state department of labor in terms of where you could put speed limit and stop signs and he says that that can't be done based on where it is it's usually around schools this is not a school is a park so there is something is much being done right now that can be done to make people aware of the fact that there are children at play and you know you need to slow down we are as as as itself has said hearing a lot about the illegal activity that goes on in the park and yes we definitely need to to address that because there are p who live on schenectady street who are not willing to bring their children there are three i think are great for daycare is located directly across from the park they will not bring their children there they will go to central park because they feel like you know right across the street is not a safe place for the children so it is something that we definitely need to to address and see how we can stop this from happening thank you thank you anyone else thank you madam chair again i'll offer my condolences to the family of cord erickson and they show man certainly didn't have enough time to spend on this or that that wasn't the plan obviously also condolences to the family of thomas about the for the passing of his lovely wife mary it's another just cancer is just a terrible thing that's all i can say and everybody's touched by it one way or the other so condolences to the families  about the situation and burrell park carey street park is being addressed these are forms of terrorism that's the way i see it when people can't use property that's for specific to use parks or playgrounds that's what they are there playgrounds are not there to do malicious mischief to do illegal gambling or anything like that that's not what they're there for so it's time for us again i'll go back to my zero tolerance that's what we need you know we want people to live in the city well we have to afford them to live in a safe and peaceful environment and when that doesn't happen that doesn't reflect well it's really as simple as that i'm glad see we're going to maybe put something in place for carrie st i mean the poor lady but thousands and thousands of the dollars in a pool in their wrecking it has or fixing it so this stuff can't go on it's terrorism it's domestic terrorism whatever you want to call it but that's what it is and they're people just thumb their nose at the law and that can happen that's not the way it's supposed to work about the want to weigh in and the mayor knows i have not been on board with this since he first presented it to me in early may i have been on board with this i will not be on board with this if the numbers don't work for a private contractor well he owns the building mr brand that's who owns it was strictly she owns it the city doesn't own the building and i don't think it's our park to do this we want to have walk to work programs let's have a place for people to work number one that's the first thing we need people need jobs in this city there's no jobs here that's all we talk about is people going to walk to work and things like that well we need to have jobs for people to walk to work though that's maybe where our focus should be and things like that and again what mr brand brought up i was going to bring it up anyhow i had my notes down the building the one stop center on broadway is disgusting we're thing it's been rolled over your time frames a little short mr brand because it's longer than this this past fall and that stucco has been coming off the building almost from when it was finished not long after was finished the problem between mr glee see and his architect or contractor that's his problem that's not the city's problem he has to fix it and he can get reimbursed if there's a lawsuit we should have to wait people look at that coming up broadway they look at that daily we would allow that on my house or your house or anybody else's house here cold or force would come right down on us with a heavy hammer well why isn't happening there let's have a level playing field for everybody let him fix the building because it wasn't done right i don't know who was overseeing that job i got all the body work for me and my life i know you can't park over brick it doesn't work i know that you have to put some kind of laugh up there was a my job to oversee it that's for sure the thing about it should have never been there in the first place we can go back to back back no bus cut outs i lived in bellevue for sixty six years i know bellevue i've never saw traffic backed up the way it's bad now if you want street bridge close it's even worse but there's no plus cut outs there why would anybody put building after building no places for buses to pull over to let people out or pick them up i don't get it i mean this stuff is just seems too simple to not have answers to but there doesn't seem to be answers to it we're stuck with that down there now we're going to have one hundred fifty apartments working at the same problem even it's going to be multiplied this isn't good planning that's all i can say but as far as development let the private developers do their thing that's what entrepreneurism is all about in this country that's what capitalism is about that's what we have here we don't use government money to help them that's not the way it should work we need to build jobs in this city that's what we need we need people to be able to go to work they can find those plenty of housing here plenty a lot of moder income housing in schenectady we have more than enough i don't know why you have to invest in anymore so five hundred thousand or that i'm not we can discuss it and everything i'll keep quiet because my mind's made up on it it's not going to be changed  presented to the mayor there put some reference was made that city funds were used that i paid for my own expenses but it shows the good things that are happening here between the two cities in the camaraderie that exist because  of people were working together i apologize for the slow police response no question about it we'll look into it tomorrow i don't know why an officer at the desk would refer somebody back to the police or back to the city council  that's not the procedure we use got command staff there that i would expect them to handle that problem appreciate the discussion on the want to wait loan a all these things are difficult and i would prefer not to even be submitting the entire loan package the city council mr wrigley articulate an interesting position there but if these pizza up on broadway that is owned by a private owner he had a business there had stuff now we're supposed to just let that sit there and you can make that example all the way through the city of places that are dilapidated they're run down in they create an extremely negative environment in the community this money will allow us to move ahead and eliminate some of that blight and encourage investment in some of the adjacent property in people just have these vague concepts of what's the private developers command let's let people do it there isn't a proposal you've got to work on the specifics you got to have something in place and we've got to make it work and so that social services building has sat their union college looked at it other people looked at it the lesson is in place they are willing to take it they're reeling t rehab they looked at what the numbers were with people who believe we should preserve that building was built just after the turn of the century there is some historical significance to it that's one position the other position is well we demolish it and put something up there but i want something to happen with it we can't just pretend that it's not there we can't just walk away from it in that's what's happened throughout the city and all these old houses and other things and since i've been married and we've been much more proactive we don't release a fire scene prematurely when the fire's out which is what the past practice was we have the homeowners there the building inspectors there the fire chief police chief and we deal with it in most times where we've had extensive damage the building comes down the one building we'd left up on bradley boulevard the homeowner there is more of a difficult situation that it's put up for over a these things are not without discussion they're not without debate or some controversy but the end product is always to try and increase value and create homeownership opportunities here in the city so i appreciate the council's discussion your participation in it and ideas as we go through it because we're not perfect here and in most cases were blazing a trail that has not happened in other communities we're not following a footprint because we don't have a lot of  money we've done all the projects so far with the homes initiative key to the city there's been basically no public dollars in that we've done that with private sector dollars and now this is the first investment of public dollars looking to make and it's been three million dollars i believe it will have a dramatic impact in terms of sending the message out that we're serious about dealing with the blight it will show neighborhoods that we are again going to take the appropriate action and live up to our responsibility as a city to do the remedial action and it will increase the value of adjacent property and it will increase the value of the properties that the city has foreclosed on and that we're selling you know we're seeing sale prices that a year ago we didn't think we could get we've brought in a broad based group of realtors we're marketing the houses you know some of the sales are again it's awkward there's timing issues  flexibility in working with that so we're going down a path where there will be again long term results during the time we're going down that path people are going to criticize the going to criticise me it's the nature of this job where people always think they've got a better idea or think they've got a more simplistic solution if they have it let's look at it let's work through it but most times it's not it's rhetoric in i have to assume the responsible that was something goes wrong it's going to be my fault i don't walk away from things or look for to blame other people i make the decisions i expect the whole the staff accountable for it in that we're going to have an end product again that justifies people's belief in giving me the opportunity to service mayor giving you the opportunity to members of the city council in that we're positioning the city for a long term growth so i can thank you madam president and can look forward to our continue relationship and working forward on this to thank you and i also i've been out of town for a couple weeks on a much longer long dreamed of a vacation to alaska which i kindly recommend if any of you have a chance to go but while i was as well as some property sales