relation to a challenge that was filed by the builders association concerning our shrink ordinance and while that appeal by the builders association has  then fifteen foot apart they become classified as patio homes and therefore require sprinklers and that was the concern of the builders association they have a strong position against having sprinklers and so our ordinance has in effect that that was adopted in conjunction when it's applied you can jump to the zoning board it means that there will not be residential sprinklers  sure what if you want it well i'm just warning you i mean it's not a pleasure at all i mean if i get that but i mean if you want it you're not mean if you want to do it i'll be your back up there and that's fine or if you're wrong are you want to do it last time we actually so that you can affect your proposals you know that one of the things that i think council should should realize is that even though gateway is your consulting engineer for example as the project is going to come to you for engineering services at there are three positions expiring mister  fullerton and her interview and so i don't mean to cut off mrs merrill so if you want to move for appointment or not i will i will make a motion that i will make a motion that we appoint iran to fullerton any further nomination expire in january two thousand and twenty three in addition mr sylvester recently resigned his term and we will point out that it was filmed by mr john golden for action council in december two thousand has recently taken a position with the oddity from the audience the synod teary sure he's doing that as on a part time basis but they've made it clear in their opinion this creates a conflict and in bars him from from story line and the problem that in your commission and i would say this is a very valuable commission in our community they do an outstanding job and at this juncture we have three terms inspiring mr paul mcgrath mr john barnes and serry is requesting a one year sabbatical and i believe chief grimes does appreciate your service on this particular commission and would like us to consider in some if that is an actual term she's married to my cousin so that's why i'm wife doesn't watch these meetings on was like seven zero next would be council meetings section two point one zero point b of the home rule charter requires carson to be twice monthly for regular meetings turly we meet the second fourth mondays of the month at seven thirty pm we have a couple of issues this year which would be one the law usually missed which is the memorial day week  ability to require police officers to contribute to their to their pension up to five percent of payroll given the level of cost associated with the pension as well as in been fully funded for a while right it's funded better than most because it will please pension planes but it is not the point of being fully funded there was a point in time when the plane was actually over funded ok e last council meeting he voted to approve a two camera system for installation on route nineteen to want to turn various vehicles i looked at my records and harken back to two thousand and eleven or last endeavor into the motion picture business at that time we expanded i believe it was approximately twenty one thousand plate reading device or whatever we choose to call it law enforcement cameras came out before you voted on it i would have liked to seen a little more healthy debate and i would have simply asked several questions first of all i'm wondering just exactly how successful this system is if i recall there are two hundred cameras in allegheny county do we have any idea how many arrests occurred in all of that how many convictions were what's a basic number maybe two hundred i don't know the next thing i would have liked to have known is record came real close when you asked whether or not we can and exit the use of this system if we choose to the thing that didn't happen is the follow up question how long are we going to wait before we make a decision little concerned because those fundamental basic at least in my mind fundamental basic questions about the appropriateness of pointing funds to pay that system just don't practical and worthwhile that would be thank you for your time by the way i would i would like to see at the end of our one years variance with this new system exactly how many criminals violators  the last camera system when i looked into it it was apparent that a lot of the money that was put into that camera system somehow disappeared in other words it was a scam and i have the evidence but i'm not going to share that with you at this point i don't want to talk about whether it's appropriate or not or whether we're going to see any kind of terrorist attack or whatever the situation is i'm just interested to see whether or not we're going to get our bang for the buck al loud for the rest was the police officer who was shot in the weather and you can see they were able to track the whereabouts of that car by virtue of the fact that there was a network of cameras so you know i think you can you can attempt to gather statistic i hope that we don't have an incident peters township that warrants the the use of these but i think we do have cases like this in we all should have an appreciation for that that these kind of things happening having that tool available as an investigative tool i think is crucial for the police department so we will have similar times