parties before the state of illinois and i think just these really impacts the in figure you game in the state of illinois our position is that consistent with the statutory regula thank you your honor i guess i'd like to pick up my couple issues discussed with mr rockwell i think the panel adequately picked up on a very important point which is that there is a fundamental inconsistency in the position and if it is a use agreement then the fact that one or both of the parties is licensed arkansas it's unlicensed doesn't change the analysis at all and i think that that that your fundamental point really undercuts the way the illinois gaming board has implemented the game and we've talked in our brief about there really being sort of two two agreements and those agreements are really in the same type of remit they're just called something a prelate ensure agreement before the parties are license operator applicants which says as part of your application we want you to identify those parties with which you have eight and agreements in place if you're in the terminals we want you to provide us with those video gaming terminal operating agreements in wants in their brief triple seven says you know we judges want you to sort of nor that practice even though that's been going on for you know since two thousand and ten which is when the term operator applications are first available we want you to ignore that practice of the gaming board that's not the rule of law they've already  be very clear that in situations like that there is not a single video game terminal that will be installed at any location in the state of illinois by someone who is unlicensed or in an unlicensed location so you'll still have license building terminals being installed at licensed establishment pursuant to use agreements that comply with the minimal standards of the act and so really in that instance you will have precisely what the video gaming act contemplates which is licensed game licensed and legalized gaming pursuant to the regulations that the act has has set forth in the rules of the illinois gaming world as far as you know these unsavory characters you benefiting from this type of practice i guess i want to challenge the predicate of that in this sort of assumption that just because a company is denied a license application that's an unsavory character that's not necessarily true that lots of innocent reasons that happens but putting putting that aside you know the regulations don't prohibit you know that these these entities who are really just engaged in start of activity which is what we really want to encourage businesses to do in emerging markets we want to encourage them to engage in the start of activities so you can launch your video game business sort of efficiently and effectively for purposes of satisfying the act which is really to generate generate revenue for the state and for local missed all of these and so you may be benefiting from those initial startup activities where they've entered into precursor appreciation sure agreements and then for whatever reason have decided to sell those to someone who can too who can engage in video gaming if it is an issue and it's certainly not an issue that's prohibited by the only gaming video gaming act or by any rule or regulation that has been passed by the gaming work if it is an issue of the thing you're just so pick up on initial surf out of yours which i think it's really an issue that really should is either left to the legislature or left for the illinois gaming works to sort out they haven't done that they certainly haven't passed a rule or regulation that prohibits these types of agreements from from happening they're certainly aware of it in our record in fact we have it specifically aware of what was occurring there also aware that time that of the decision concerning best license for application the game board had an opportunity to tell us that you know we don't like this type of agreement or that we don't support this type of  here best didn't challenge that initial determination but prior to prior to the gaining more denying their quest for a period they made the assignment ship for to gel so at that on that day in which static that assignment heard best remained an applicant under the act for all purposes and the decision with respect to its application m had not been made and certainly not in the final by the on the gaming board and importantly at that time is still possible you know is short so if you know in the days i believe this is the end of june when they receive their initial denial amid the early part of july in two thousand and twelve and then this transaction occurred on july seventeenth two thousand and twelve in the following  day and you'll understand what happens in that situation to the essentially have a fire sale of your assets when you when you go through that you don't really have the time fully that and get the full market value for your assets and that's just a consequence of of the pro is they if this decision is anything other than you know supporting the decision of judge and it will upset thousands of transactions are there also no hundreds if not thousands of the gaming  conduct of video gaming and that's that's absolutely contrary to to the agreement itself the agreement is explicitly conditioned upon licensure in states specifically in paragraphs to impair for the agreement that each party must get the license before video gaming activity can be conducted and it doesn't allow the installation of any video gaming terminals until after the licensing date which is defined as the last date by which either of the  circumstances conduct video gaming activity under the exclusive placement remit in an illegal way and so the argument that that triple seven resists in its reply brief is not supported by the contract or the record and frankly it's an argument are benefiting from this is simply wrong and we can't have a rule that applause you one you know deficit because the had a footfall versus another has numerous felonies you have some very unsavory people  license because you have all of these problems we're back on you felonies be they associations with unsavory people they're told you can't participate in this industry and now what jim's saying in others is that's they have taken the position they did not come out and taken position where they're watching what's happening in the course closely does anybody really with mr ramsey this is a case of huge importance to the