whole lot of levels this is all that he did something into it there's a lot of back and forth a lot of cross references in congress well let's let's just how do you find a we had a case where they were we had it half  says you need to comply with envy or any and b are any would not require the you know when you try to computerize would not require felon incarcerated felons to be removed from here that a u s attorney refers to the fact that someone isn't incarcerated fell into an election official and then presumably that election official would notify the local precinct or whatever and that person if they come if they send areas of the lower court decision on which the city and we agree concentrated felons are not eligible to vote they may be bringing registered if they were registered before they became incarcerated they are not eligible philadelphia is doing nothing to make sure its move of this do not have people on down who are eligible and instead claim that they are eligible pennsylvania the statute doesn't express this concern it modifying by criminal conviction or mental incapacity and then the separation of the separate clauses by colons indicates that provided by state law it's only a question of whether state law the thing find somebody as a felon to be  eligible to vote as long as they'll be eighteen by the next election and they're tagged as inactive and tell their eighteenth birthday to me they would be all right if there was an incarcerated fellow who was going to be released for the next election that's right and as long as as long as  reflect that they that they are not eligible now because the next election in november twenty eighth i mean we might have a special election before that and that will in order to be properly maintained in accord with the n p r a they have to not include i think the question for the quick to consider is whether or not the federal statute that they are pleading we have violated requires removal for for criminal conviction in the question is if someone registered incorrectly because they purging programs that were taking voters off the rolls you had programs that were requiring people to reregister every year at some it's out there you know many barriers and so when you look at this production which says ok we're not only are we going to put in cribbage and that make it easier for people to register we're going to instruct you that there are barry now categories upon which we're going to allow states to remove people and here are the very narrow categories you can only remove for a criminal conviction if it's allowed by state law voters from the rolls at the request of the voter as provided by state law by reason of mental incapacity or criminal conviction in addition states are required to conduct a general program that makes it missile effort to remove the names of ineligible voters by rea categories of persons need to be removed on a mandatory basis it tells us the only two categories of persons that the states must remove as ineligible or persons who died and persons who have changed residence that it the end of the story well interestingly section talks about the need to remove ineligible voters within ninety days that it's talking about general systemic removal programs that that local election officials conduct criminal conviction status it explicitly person into the plain language of the statute doesn't apply r so just getting back to getting back to pennsylvania law and whether pennsylvania law requires removal based on criminal conviction status i just want to be kind of technical about worrying the same thing and i think that that's from a practical standpoint so if you have a criminal conviction right if we were going to change registration for example it would be pretty easy just to send in you know it's important to consider that you know consider this issue about the distinction between the right to be registered and the right to vote that the holding of nixon which struck down the limitation on the right of  felons previously unregistered talents to not be able to register for five years once they left present they left prison was fully premised on the idea that the comparative class which was people who were registered before want to take up that last point first because quite frankly i'm a little bit surprised that there are doing out at the incarcerated felons are eligible to vote throughout their brief they don't ever once ratified that erroneous holding of a district court and in fact in the latest report to the federal election assistance commission by the pennsylvania attorney general they specifically say convicted felons who are incarcerated on the date of the election are not eligible to vote when god lists of whether they are registered so pennsylvania law words the obligation to keep the role of the current and accurate for fourteen eligible incarcerated salant apply even within the ninety day period that's all that exception needs and so so during this distinction between can they be registered to vote but not eligible to vote and does the end we are a particularly as augment of my hot when there's no doubt that hard requires a removal broadly of all ineligible voters but if you think exactly the same language eligible only incarcerated ones but i think i think the point about the fact that in this community in courts aerated and pretrial detainees can trial absentee ballots means that the recipient of that