good morning the media of the policy into government affairs committee will come to order to shoot july eleventh two thousand and sixteen and with nine or treat before we get started like to ask everyone including myself to make sure our phones are on silent and mr mike marlene are representing the mayor when mr chairman and committee we have some police that will be called up a little bit later for their items so i wanted to do so until they are called up next i'd like to introduce our let's go to the next one denise from the office denise are you there ok the policy of the governmental affairs committee will reconvene we're having some technical challenges this morning so we're not able to connect to our district offices at this time we are now checking to see if there's anyone wanting to testify and then with if problem if i may move along in two of the items that we have today we have four items three are nominations and a proposed resolution relating to a donation for fingerprinting machine to the department of police i would like to bring take public testimony but that's not being possible right now and saw until that is completed let me move on to the actual dash to twenty six graded the committee is in receipt of correspondence dated and received second twenty sixteen from the mayor transmitting a proposed resolution intitled relating to the appointment of david corson to the board of ethics along with a completed application form for the nominee the purpose of the proposed resolution is to approve or disapprove the appointment of david core sent to the port of ethics for a term expiring on march thirty first two thousand and twenty one to fill a vacancy go ahead thank you mr chair for the committee members mr course in we're very fortunate that he's made himself available to serve on this particular commission as you can see on his application you had a lot of experience in the community both here on maui and also and welcome would you like to give a little yourself in will open the floor to questions from the members please good morning mr chair good morning members of the council it's it's a delight to be with you this morning because it's a delight to to we are very very blessed to call our home i first moved to hawaii in one thousand nine hundred sixty six compliments of the united states marine corps enjoyed living in conejo and said this is where i want to live for the rest of my life resided for the last thirteen years in maui if selected to assist in this capacity would like to bring my experience in public service as a volunteer and also my experience as an educator both at the university of hawaii the main campus in manila and university of the south pacific and san diego state university teaching in the school of communication as well as serving as an associate pastor here in ky and in honolulu prior to that i suppose what motivates me is a love for country but even more than that a love provided a i was speaking with one of the council members earlier this morning and i often describe myself perhaps giving myself more credit than what is due as a backwards coke and it may be white on the outside but brown on the inside and does so we love our community that were available to serve and we want nothing less than the best for the island  call home that we love so much thank you sure there was a very enlightening introduction and i have looked your application over and it's quite extensive and i believe you've done much service to this community and other communities in the area of education and as well as religious and i appreciate what you bring to the table and again i guess the question begs to be answered i know mister mentioned that you're now on the disability council and so really do you believe you have enough time to do both because it is very important we know these upfront because if not in the past we  others if they could not to choose between one of the other and we don't we don't have to ask you to do that but realistically can do you have enough time to serve on both boards well that's a fair question and it's a good question yes i believe i do for the last seven months my wife and i had been commuting back and forth spending three days on the island of molokai and four days here in mali but that service just concluded two weeks ago and so that's given us considerably more time the hours that i said are really the hours that i said no no one else sets those hours for me or say i'm obligated every sunday morning so i do need to be at church every sunday morning but apart from that my hours are flexible and i believe that i could do that and do that effectively and i don't know many commissions that me on sundays so i think you're pretty safe in that respect i will open the floor up to questions from the members members do you have any questions for the nominee yes bi so yeah it's just one quick question mr chair and i had the opportunity to talk with the nominee prior to this meeting so i know quite a bit about him and i'm really happy about what i found out i want to particularly note military service when one is in the marine corps i kind of understand the ethics that you're bringing to this situation but i did want to the county of honolulu is also the exact same boundaries is the city and so we have the city and county of honolulu because anywhere you go on a while who you are within the city limits  county limits and because of the population eight years ago the county and i believe wisely made the decision to divide up the island into various neighborhoods the neighborhood boards are comprised of advisory only to the to the council that to the county council city council in that case of honolulu recommendations pertaining to things like stop lights and widening of roads and safety issues things of that matter once again it's non binding it simply advisory but i believe it's government at its most grassroots level because you're dealing with with neighborhood neighbors right in that neighborhood right in that community so that's how the  up here if it thank you very much i think that's had fabulous experience and i do want to congratulate and thank you for filling out the political affiliation blank i get that with the most of the time thank you yes ma'am because of the date of august first two thousand and sixteen we will not be able to report this all from the committee in a timely manner therefore this meeting was to discuss only and so that we can act upon it in a timely manner so if there is no objections i will ask for deferral of this matter no director thank you so will be confirming you all looking to confirm your approval disapproval on the july fifteenth two thousand and sixteen meeting you can and we would like to have you here if there's any other questions way of some of the members who are not here you know you'd be available for that discussion that is july fifteenth july fifty s i will be available this coming friday that's correct ok thank you secretary you so much thank you very much for disabilities along with a completed application form for the nominee the purpose of the proposed resolution is to approve or disapprove the appointment of margaret perry to the maui county commission on persons with disabilities court term expiring march thirty first two thousand and seventeen to fill a vacancy due to the resignation of gabriel johnson indicate an interest in serving on this commission as it relates to the issues in the needs of our citizens and who have disabilities as you can join application she's involved with several organizations online not me and is a retired school teacher and also has a background in real estate and so she reviewed the responsibilities of this commission in definitely expressed an interest and of course indicated she would have the time to attend the monthly meetings here on mali so  did put down her political affiliations on how the what i think the word has gotten out there we need to know that and i think it's very appropriate but this young lady also has quite a lot of experience in many many areas and i  think and i have nor i know of her i've met her in the past and i think she would be a complementary board member for this commission but our open the floor for questions any member to m commission on persons with disabilities can you give us some key with this is that you mr chairman and i think you can also remember yes she did she was fine also with accepting this particular commission as well which was also you know she did you know tell us that on my plan a commission was in the interest of hers but her intent was just to serve the community in whatever capacity that's best so we were certainly fortunate to get her to accept the nomination and this is one particular commission where it is sometimes difficult finding out people out there to serve so we are certainly very appreciative thank you thank you thank you chair any other questions for which the leader in regards to dismantle many but let me finish this before i do what i can please thank you i'd like to make my recommendation with no objections to your cares odd that you would like to entertain a motion for the proposed resolution entitled relating to the appointment of sharon says it to the civil service commission along with a completed application form for the nominee the purpose of the house resolution is to approve or disapprove the appointment of sharon s civil service commission for a term expiring march thirty first two thousand and twenty to fill a vacancy due to the resignation of waller thank you and i will we are blessed with  s were very fortunate to have me sukey make yourself available to serve on this particular commission needless to say she has a lot of a background in the business area namely the president about molly electric and she certainly has a lot of experience in that area and she served on other boards and commissions so she has assured us that even with her obviously somewhat busy schedule she can do this job which is a believe it once a month requirement so with that being said mr opening remarks pretty sure well it is so good morning chair and members of the policy and intergovernmental affairs committee thank you for the opportunity to be considered for the civil service commission as mr malin mentioned i have a background in business economics and japanese undergraduate degree from university of michigan and a master of business administration from california state university fullerton so i have experience both overseas and on the mainland i was born and raised on oahu i graduated from castle high school the knights went to college away worked on the mainland then moved back up back in  eighty and i moved to had the opportunity to move to mali twelve years ago so i've been having and raising my family here on my way which we really love i've always been involved in i guess community service from when i was in high school involved in the community and continued to do so especially when i worked out how i need a lecture again even now at electric and opportunity to serve on the civil service commission is another way for me to give back to the community and certainly learn the aspects of operating and county of maui i believe that my leadership experience a major business in maui county dealing with a diverse workforce both management and bargaining unit employees as well as field and office employees across maoi well give great insight into the decisions that the commission one of the tops as far as i'm concerned you're very much involved whether it's boys girls girls girls i want to hold elmo you hold and lodging association and we'll you name it more economic opportunity you're always involved so we want to thank you for your involvement but again the question begs to be asked with all of that charm can you be sure that you can be there because kwame is an issue and we won't want that to be a root issue it is can you make yourself a little for that once a month meeting for the civil service commission so if approved to serve on this commission i will make that commitment my understanding is the commission meets regularly on a monthly basis i believe it's a recurring meeting so what i do with this type of commitment is to then block my schedule for that period every month and try to work everything else around it and as you mentioned earlier i will if i have to juggle because things like this come up that are important to b m purse and i i frontline that are the ones that actually have to get their work done i have served on an appeals disciplinary appeals board and what i do is i listen to the facts both sides and i really have to consciously write make sure that i'm trying to be fair and objective and i do work really hard to do that in terms of my daily decisions as well as escalated decisions q what road do you see mayor as i understand the charter so what role do you see yourself in communicating areas of concern regarding collective bargaining projects i see my role as a member of the commission to discuss my concerns and my views with the other commission members and i would think that it would be through the chair that the communication would be channelled q what do you it similar i guess that i would present my views as a board member or a commission member and that following the protocol which i'm not obviously that familiar yet but i would think that the chair which serv ok i'm not sure i'm not that familiar with the protocol and rules yet i would certainly work to come up to speed on that but i would see the world again as initially providing input as a member of the commission and having the commission's decision and our inquiries find out directly to the council one thing i would hope you would share this upon your confirmation i guess is the the charter in my understanding of it gives certain commissions great responsibilities regarding the departments of poles and budget your commission is one such commission  major in finance in my business degree and actually have experience preparing and facilitating budgets and i understand of custom parts instead of having an established by jet and trying  to operate in accordance with that budget in my current role overseeing should be part of the structural overview regarding adjustments in structure regarding personnel and how we approach can i clarify your question share should the commission be involved in structural changes is what you're saying i think to the extent that it can make improvements in terms of the operation and can appreciate my questions this morning because the responsibility that you are voluntarily accepting to me needs to be cleared because you take on if you do a component of us i believe that having the background the responsibility for as many employees is may competitive that she has a very good insight into the budget how it works because everybody i think you'll find the difference here though that you know the salaries will not be said but you i mean in some cases with one but i'm saying you know these negotiations that go on don't feel bad because we're not involved either can possibly get enough statewide interest to look at the process of how we negotiate because it's very difficult and you find it difficult sitting on the commission but i think with your background and having to deal with a employees and being fair and the union thank you already being a familiarity which i think is very good because you know if you're not familiar with dealing with negotiating take credit checks and things it's really difficult so i don't know how much of years i've known you for the whole twelve it seems like you've been a whole lot longer than twelve years you've been here but i appreciate do the community and i think you're doing a great job on the commission to thank you for putting yourself up for that possibility thank you thank you or any other comments or questions seen on thank you very very much misses the key and i again i too can support you in what you bring to the table a long long time you still like most of us here in this chamber learn each and every day something so i want to thank you for you putting yourself out and we see nothing but continued success thank you with no further discussion i like to make my recommendation to communities yes that you would like to entertain a motion to adopt the proposed resolution relating to the appointment of sharon chisel key to the civil service commission revising it first to be the first read resolve it up striking the word approves and inserting the words of disapprove no i'm sorry excuse me inserting the word prove i'm sorry i was reading the whole the committee is in receipt of county communications sixteen eighty six from the chief of police transmitting a proposed resolution entitled authorizing acceptance of a donation of three morpho track live scan machine the purpose of the proposed resolution is to authorize the acceptance of three thinker printing machines and one year maintenance cost valued at ninety thousand dollars from the hawaii criminal justice data center to the department of police  hundred district station thank you this morning we have said that we are hoping the chief would be here but we have their representatives and i would like their representative be introduced themselves machines it's actually three machines that are like electronically capture finger printing when we do the processing of prisoners as well as other activities so these two machine brings us up to four and police department these machines are being provided by the holy criminal justice data center for use and  cherry council members the arrest arrested personnel are electronically fingerprinted and photographed that data is sent over to lose oh a criminal justice data center where further verifications are made as to identification we also point that out to if in quantico for final identification they're nationwide database is used to provide positive i d on that person and that information is returned to the state of hawaii who checks if there is a state id and then it returns back to the my police department so that process approximately how long you know normal circumstance in three seconds we can get verification on who this individual is the second amazing take you with a couple of other couple of  after this first annual any year after that we'll be coming out of this for the toss is that how it's going to work after this or yes ma'am currently we have machines at our facilities already due to age and other such replacement time is up so all these machines that are being sent over to us actually replace the older machines and there is a cost difference on the on what we currently paid there's a slight cost increase because it's a new machine a new technology being employed and such chair a follow up on the cost of four thousand then is what these new is asked the question that they found intriguing in there was about the maintenance i notice that the state is asking us to go with them and bid unsolicited maintenance contract why is that r so it's a legal monopoly question regarding is since it has the whole hand in everything is this equipment also be potentially able to be coordinated with d m v regarding their licensing and their identification requirements that the state makes us do in p four for the couple currently the only captures we take are for criminal incidence or for background type checks other day and being arrested for sex offenders they also have there because i criminal system that allows only certain entities to participate in or to be in part of so that you could get the information but i believe that's the the selling point or the  fingerprint database so we all contribute to the pool which we all have access to but there's nothing glocal we kept at the motley fool and does the department p he fee or some kind of service charge to have access to that the database there is a maintenance fee for access that  r department pays the state for yes or you do know how much that amount is sergeant  wiped clean does whatever the department has imported over the last thirty days that gets wiped out from here what is maintain on a wall at their central collection point  and we pay them to keep store and protect that that yes  those issues i think the modernization of our criminal system and the ability to identify people in a expedient manner really makes it important to have this and  it may cost us a little more than we used to pay but the other side of cohen is we need information and instantaneous information it becomes very very prevalent when you talk when we're talking criminal activities or an a because it is important so with that being said anything any other discussion or i'll make my recommendation thank you in the district prisoner processing area from the how why criminal justice data center to the county of maui department of police pursuant to a charter to chapter issues me treat that a three point five six technical difficulties we had communication with our district offices we will be working on that to make sure that doesn't happen all hopefully alleviate that from happening in the future if there is no other discussion i will close this meeting of the foreign policy intergovernmental affairs committee for july eleventh two thousand and sixt