and made a procedural mistake and got out of the case too early and got stuck with it i mean i don't see how you get out of that like we said question i would ask what proceed to give you all the time you need to make your argument i'm just trying to understand what kind of argument it you actually have and maybe i should just be quiet and let you make it so that's what i'll do oh no no no i just won't not just  liquidated damages that you're entitled to a separate damage hearing on that i can agree with that you know i don't believe attorneys fees are generally not considered to be liquidated on liquidated damages you sa i'm expressing my understanding of the case i'm you're the one that has the final word and i'm listen i have skin really where you are evidently judge pirro did not treat me as being out of the case because he or me along with the ok let me ask you this if you had confessed judgment and had settled case you and confession judgement and allowed a judgment to be entered against you in and in in faith in in favor of the defendant once that's done i don't see you clearly should not have confessed judgment at that time your time in of confession judgment and that you confess judgment and the rest of them continue defining makes a difference in the case has to make a difference will judge  with a little bit here and i'll just turn it on somebody else as questions know all argument is to help us understand what our occurred we read to brad good and all and that's the whole point of all argument to get answers to the they would have had to treat you fairly under the circumstances an equity treats people who are in the same circumstances in equal in equal results but you were not in the same circumstance you  your own one side standing by yourself as you say because you thought it was right you were standing on principle and not congratulate you for that but then the other side decides they're not going to stand with you they go and take a chance and so on their countless times and then when not equity does not demand that they now share with you what they won when you declined opportunity to  interest and there were hugs william jules it's case is really confusing to some extent and your arguments in this case have kind of left me a bit confused because i'm not quite sure that time now i don't know when all the final judgment was and but i don't see how that affects the issue that is in this case you still have another case  like to have is for all of the defenders to pay this the same amount that  that's what you want what's the bottom line and i mean you're taken meandering way to get to some but what is the bottom line or you are going in the red brief and the day that we affirmed the district court in this judgment or have you changed your position of the some way it really is hard to figure out what your you know the problem is that on the district court did not and that is at will if everybody is held in the same principle he wants out on the basis of the district court's judgment say and that is not obligated you say equity demands that not only  more importantly that is the e mail that cascaded is in total or with out at that time and every with the merits of the judgment against kaskade is on the stand except he wants the benefit of that judgment is not attacking the judgment against him and the district court that hell nothing to do with what you had at the marriage the merits of judge on judge rose opinion own and in it conflict of interest it resulted in the reduction of the argues he was entitled to participate in the trial do you agree with him at minimum he was probably entitled to cross examine and ha is that the district court has already applied equity and already apportioned that images in a way that is prejudicial to us not  so i just have to tell you for one is not clear to me how what you said here squares would send a red berry but maybe it is so you know it is not i ask you bottle so what is the whole thing you're seeking from this pound is it now that you've looked at it and we ought to just remain in this bet down below and let you all figured out once in or you asking us to swim through equity and figure out stuff does not argue to us now what is your bottom what is your bottom line is it but we know it mr barnes is argue what is your bottom line appeal you want to just reverse the trial court and send you all back to square one what is it you're seeking though we make the arguments about equality in this and that and all that we've got a nano all the argued case companion right one same kaskade same party and all this is just boord in this argument between which of the arguments made in that case versus the ones here and frankly you all have been helped at all to all right all right counsel we've exhausted your arguments we've got the briefs and both the cases will do what we get paid to do we have figured out with that he you are