going to do and just to put on the list from last time we're going to skip article one report here particle two authorization to represent the times legal interest doing it actually the gender may not be as long as you think believe that it is a residence owned by one person and the request for the historic district designation has come from the owner so my initial concern was whether the owner of the property was aware but given that it is evidently a request from the current owners to have the nation if there is an effect on property values and she's doing it with open eyes  dumb i don't see that we really have any effect well i don't think it's appropriate for us to discuss how somebody disposes of their own property the only question i suppose is if somehow the property became a credit property of the future like the park house where would that leave us but  general residence district which relates to whether a two family house has taken down can be replaced by one family house or a two family house and people where we would have a an opinion that is any better informed than the planning board or that or that we have a different perspective just so right i was one suggested we at least i to think about this based on the comment that was alice made about two years ago saying you know what house is turned on once built it's double the fact of late that the assessment but i do agree that we don't know enough to offer an informed opinion my comment was that we ought to and that means we may not be able to this year but in general given that the vast majority of our tax base is residential and this impacts new pro and he suddenly started think about but i do agree i don't feel like i know enough to well t an informed way about this when i went back and double check this one because i actually have some concerns about the i forget the exact provision but the the  change made it time meeting regarding single single family residence district where there was a limitation on the dress size of new houses or additions and so forth and that actually i think has a pretty clear that one i don't have a view on the john morris it might my understanding recollection is that it was necessary to rein in some pretty egregious overbuilding but even then it does have a financial impact so i totally agree with your point that we don't know enough but i'm not sure we know enough even to know whether or not we should apply in on this so i'm happy to say nothing further at this point that's just the point i was trying to make jenny when i was on the planning board we talked about this a good deal and it's a long process to bring a zoning article to town meeting and there are among other things the number of public hearings about it and people come from neighborhoods and talk about the pros and cons and so on zoning change is going to make somebody better off and somebody worse off and it's very hard i think to understand any kind of financial impact because it just you know it could go both ways and i really i have a hard time thinking that the mark committee really can get to the point where we could have a deep enough understanding of what the conversation has been at the time i thought when i was the chair of the planning board i thought it would be a good idea if some member of the warrant committee were established as a liaison so that there would be at least one member of the bar committee who would come to the public hearings having to do with zoning violent changes because i think that's the only way to really get into the conversation the planning board itself has a lot of conversation there are a lot of amendments and things that go on so there's a lot of history to any one of these things and i don't think you can really get enough of an understanding and less than through th process through you know at least somebody here can bring back to the table some deeper understanding of these things i don't know if i mean at the time nobody thought that the work committee will be on the workmate thought that anybody would have time to attend the whole of the planning board meetings which i don't blame anybody for because i wouldn't want to do it but i'm not sure that it's possible without that kind of involvement that's just my two cents right yes i mean three years ago we issues where maybe went too far the other way in stopping development or maybe we can loosen it up a little and find the middle ground which is why we did it as a three or experiment so we could then go back and fix it so it's less impactful now that we're going to tweak it and extend it then three years ago to doing a drastic change so we weighed in last time and i understand definitely we weighed in last time but because we hadn't done this before but if you want to weigh in this time you could if you could just kind of a close j was a temporary issue it seems to me that it is as important if not more important for this body to weigh in on if we're turning a temporary into a permanent and t point i personally feel like i don't quite have that understanding but we're asking two hundred eighty eight town meeting members to understand it well enough to vote on it and they're going to be looking to this body i think on things that have an economic impact in town to weigh him so i think it's a little bit unfair of a punt for us to say we don't know we can't figure it out so we're not going to know the end of it i think if we need to have people from the planning board really come here so we can understand what they believe the economic impact is on the town if they believe that it's marginal then i think maybe we don't weigh in on it if they think that it actually is meaningful but these are the pros and cons and i think we can talk about whether  and it's possible that we should given what you just said but we don't even know really what the impact is at any level i have no capacity to comment on it at all and so i think having them come here and least educate us some would seemingly be a worthwhile exercise even if it only earlier than what will probably turn out to be the week for town but that seems pretty efficient i mean we comment on all sorts of like we're going to comment on the trash contract but we're not experts on trash we've looked at the material they've given us we've applied like kind of you know background you know trying to be thoughtful about analysis but we're not experts in the trash market but we're still going to comment on that right so it seems like the same thing here except that a lot of it seems more efficient to have them come to us early they've done some thinking about how it would impact the property but i thought we were actually pretty informative so i'm using an example of something that i feel like i need to become understood but any number of things i could bring up that you know work commenting on the money there's certainly a communication issue here too because i only something like this media and i didn't say i didn't see that the scope of the article was something where we were we would have like the much to say any of us but deficient i was concerned if it was really a significant question forced to take on some reasonable to take it off two weeks and weeks before a town meeting by the nature of the process by the time way i remember years ago there was a representative from the planning board who sat at the table here would give updates is that something that could be extended the invitation again or is that just too burdensome for them to take on  i think we should ask i don't know why it lapsed but just tell them that shorts and so for some time it was actually a practice that a member of the planning board was a member of the warren committee was an informal thing and i think the two weeks before is not the best time to start to pay it to start to form opinions and i also agree that with this particular one it's difficult to ascertain the the financial impact but there are certainly board takes up that do have very important is and i think that we do need to be paying attention to the at a significant level early on the us so it may not be every issue but like if you're going to do another cushing square you're going to do some of those things i think we should be involved early on that's a very good point in fact because i think one of the issues that's been on my mind is whether the position on war and i think the same logic also applies f respective as of these things let's see that at least for the remaining articles on the list last week we decided not to make decisions on your single use plastics check out ut if anybody wants to comment further on the park project at this time i'm happy to risk it being redundant i just cannot see spending two hundred thousand dollars over one hundred seventy five thousand dollars i agree this is something where i'm sure there's going to be differences of opinion but i don't see any scenario where the structure would be  made useful and i don't i haven't seen any evidence that the building is actually in danger of falling down this is as i read the proposal it was to take the money to make the building aesthetically pleasing from the outside no i don't think so i think it was to make sure that it wasn't rotting away well but there's but it's been there for decades and there's no indication that next year will be any different from last year i mean if something continues to deteriorate it just gets more and more expensive to put it back into some sort of condition and i don't think that this but is there a legal obligation for us to keep it that it is your condition or at least to keep it stand i thought there was a contract it certainly is a legal question i seems to me that  be the exact nature of our obligation is unclear should we find that out before we vote on it i would to me it would make sense to truly ascertain eventually renegotiate that  the vote but i think if there are any i think it's fine for people to have a debate so to speak this way without having the book just a comment i think from my initial view was jima claim just didn't want to take on the responsibility of maintaining this but we did receive some document i don't know whether it was the legal agreement or whatever but whe n i read that document there is it in that document and if ferment to have responsibility for the talent to maintain that building it's not a the mclean hospital doesn't have to maintain it it's affirmative that we do have to maintain it so i read that as us having a legal obligation to preserve it and whether or not we can change that down the road if there is no use for the property that's a decision down the road i think i view it as we do have an obligation as a town to at least preserve the building until we decide that there is no use for it as opposed to not take any action and by failing to act out of the building fund salvageable my memory of the language i haven't looked at it since we discussed a long time ago but there was some wishy washy  practicality it's been there this long we have no way to use for it's becoming expensive to maintain we should be back at the table talking to the person who was the so called legal obligations and not spending two hundred thousand dollars  mind and that a certain lot of people i do understand that the town took on a commitment to maintain the farm but it's contractual and i don't perceive either the same risks or the same kind of moral obligation i feel is inherent in the way so i do view these as two different animals i mean obviously for all sorts of reasons they're different but in terms of what are you know a statutory obligation versus a private contractual obligation does feel different to me it feels less less weighty just how private process question if we it's let's say them or between does take a vote or simply vote against it how does this work as i contractual issues also can carry huge financial implications and if not handled well to get a little bit more information if it george fulfills able to offer that kind of counsel if he thinks there is really a obligation that we really where this is something that has to be done as a legal matter that as much as i would be happy to spend the money i would give go to his opinion if he thought that he could realistically be renegotiated and this work could be postponed until we see whether it's really necessary or not  know that would make a difference ultimately in a perfect world i would prefer not to vote for this for that's really something that is an unavoidable legal obligation for better or for worse than i would  take a position on that so you there were in my mind certain sort of practical considerations certainly influenced the way i think about twelve i'm not sure perhaps we would need a town manager perhaps we would have to change the position in the long run or maybe in the short run i don't know but it seems to me that there are more more questions than just whether we would have to fund an additional twenty thousand dollars or whatever it would and that just seems to me to make the charge of the committee fundamentally in please because my understanding is that other towns which generally have larger that if we were going to go free to five it would make sense to combine that with the question of what should one of the con administrator role be in working with the board of selectmen and should have more responsibility about and discuss a lot of the issues that you're talking about we did not we did not opine specifically on what additional costs there may be for the town administrator but we did think about what the role for that position might be how it might change whether it should change we we did we did look at the roles and responsibilities of selectmen and comparable towns  in many cases in many cases those larger boards of selectmen are are doing much the same set of roles and responsibilities of as our three selectmen are doing so we just looked at a lot of this information and i'm not prepared to give you a full summary of of what we did there the report the report is on the town website but i don't think i don't think that you can say that that we failed to consider the town meeting members of the way and that there are you know there are things like benefits if every selectman decided to take benefits which hasn't been the practice in the past some have you know there  would be a clearer larger cost associated with five but you know it's impossible to know of having it rather for it and have good intentions to do so before time meeting but did is there any impacts on three to five in terms of the pond rating the reason i'm asking is i just know that there has been concern raised about the decentralized nature  did read the report i thought it was a terrific report i thought it was really will show good balance and the awful position is on both sides think some of the direct costs that we're talking about minimize some of those other costs i think this harkens back to the planning board article that we just talked about i think it's hard for us to ascertain which way it was go i think this will be rape very interesting and robust discussion at town meeting i think our talent is measurably better off by having the discussion framed by the  group who studied it but i think this is kind of like that planning board article that the economic impacts are of such a secondary nature relative to the impact it has on the governance so i'm torn we're describing this financial impact is small and yet if if the same thing would have come up in a different context if it were a question of hiring somebody who then would have benefits or could have benefits who had now salaries in addition i'm sorry the selectmen would have salaries in addition to the people that we would be hiring in the office i think it would be a significant discussion in any other context so i think it's important that we get a get a handle on what that could be and present th make sure that that gets to town meeting at the same time for us to vote on him i think we would have to have a full discussion as to any touch of about the merits of three versus five and it's essentially a preview of what's going to happen at a town meeting and i don't think we should have that discussion so i do think it would be worthwhile for us to say something about the financial impact but not necessarily to vote clarification the committee to study the number of selectmen isn't actually the proponent of the article so i think the committee made a recommendation there was not an expectation that town would act on it point is that if the only way for us to say something about the cost is to vote then maybe we want to do that but i'm hoping there's another way for us to do that and the board of selectmen will vote on this we want to put any spin on that from the committee before they do the work i would expect that we would weigh in on the actual article itself as three people most affected by its outcome in the short run but i think would be an interesting discussion this that you would want to change the responsibilities of the town administrator legally as well so i had a question about that i assume that would have a cost in fact did that and that also was it your experience that  it looked like a lot of communities have more than three that they end up having a staff person the way that sort of a city council you know places with city council ends up having city council staff that are just response to city council so would we end up with additional staff person who would be the staff to the point it's the laxman if you'd really varies some some some towns have got additional staff or many do not know that many towns that have five select might have a much stronger town administrator more like a town manager some do not and i think i think many people on the committee felt that you know if you move towards five selectman a larger board that it would make more of an advisory body work or or giving guidance on policy instead of making somebody executive decisions i think that's somewhat concerning and it's a really big deal and i think that either we should suggest that it get deferred and be studied actually appropriate even more i don't have in terms of the financial impact but the upside is the group has done a whole bunch of work on this a whole bunch really has happened i've read the study already and it was really well done but the interesting thing is that even when i read the study i kind of came to one of the kluge and i talked to several individuals who were very knowledgeable and actually change my mind and it's a big it's a big thing financially now i think if we are going to weigh in on it then i think we have to do have to have people come here and talk about it and we have to spend actually a chunk of time on it so i'm sort of  town that to me is a bigger question this morning article but it's it's one that we should be asking before you can even go down this path so i actually might with town meeting it would seem to me the first thing to do is to have the committee report their findings out to town meeting in kind of their neutral here or the pluses and think all town meeting members should have read the report but i think the town meeting would go better as an event that night if the group that spent months studying  proponents of the article they will be giving a report out the night this article goes to the great also i just want to mention that the committee will have a it's going to have a town a public meeting microphone i have read that it was canceled for tomorrow and was going to be rescheduled because of the come down so all right so i know they would have a date as to when it's rescheduled on like somewhere on the twenty eighth there's and i mean it was really late in the least i think that's what i mean well so the question remains do we take a position on this or not we can defer action on that question until i'm not i'm not sure what information them possibly get that would resolve this question well could we potentially take a position saying that we we think there are other things that need to happen before we make this a meeting by the committee a few days before town meeting it doesn't feel to me like a big public discussion about what do we do with our board of selectmen and related to administrator and so maybe instead of going through the whole debate and trying to decide what to recommend gay or nay maybe what we do is request for x y or z discussion of the board of selectmen about this and you haven't had a chance to talk about yet it seems to me that the leadership about this particular issue needs to be located there rather than of the work committee and so to the extent voters form so we moved it we could move it up a week because it was a patriots day we couldn't move it off a week because it was a new world on beating for doing it tomorrow so we're going to slip meetings this week in the not again until right before time meeting on the thirtieth just sorry this is on the agenda for tomorrow it is not it is on the agenda for while we were just talking about the agenda for your bro thirtieth it'll probably will be the same a day stuff will be on the third agenda for the thirtieth five o'clock at the high school before is conspiring to make it next to impossible that very deliberative discussion of this question if you don't have a meeting scheduled we could invite them to join us for a joint meeting and we could certainly listen to have other business on the twenty i think at a minimum moving this to june would actually be helpful not moving it get moved one day to bake for the second so i would probably be taking up the second of the items on may twenty second or regular which would not be before a time it would be a regular meeting it's not the reason why we schedule we have meetings scheduled before town meeting every day the town meeting to deal with stuff like this amendments to other things so it's not unusual it's just not televised because when we're at the high school in the conference room all the cameras are in the auditorium and they're not available to film us so and again we've got our meetings we would discourage not only not to vote on it but actually propose an alternative course of action but let's let's revert to this on april twenty  put the issue before the voters right now this is a vote to opt out and then it would have to go on from then this is like it would have to put it on the ballot to go in front of the voters we could choose not to do that which case this would be moot but i think no thank you this is  percent turnout in belmont for the voters which is unheard of that was you know in the november presidential election so we had a huge huge turnout and that was the outcome and then the state legislature came up with some rules and the law on the law would be that if your town voted to opt in to allow marijuana sales in your town then the only way to then opt out would be to have a vote of the people put it back on the ballot and the people voted  the people would have to put it up in the towns where people i'm oversimplifying would have people if you were in a town that the voted to not legalize then the board of selectmen could just opt out he wouldn't have to put it to a vote because your people are devoting so that in my mind the legislature could do a distinction on the ballot question whether your town voted in vs voted out as an intent to have it in your town or not there some will say that you know that that wasn't exactly what they thought they were going for that they thought they were voting to legalize it in the state and this is certainly having a belmont the legislature as interpreted the results that way so i know this like when we had this discussion and we decided because it was take brought up to us whether we would vote to put it on the ballot opt out we decided not to because eighty percent of the people turned out and we are we felt that we'd already voted on of the legislature seem to interpret that vote to mean that if you voted to o then you opted in and that i i personally you know it's not none of us are really taking a position on whether it should be legal or not it's really none of you know of our business and i didn't really want to get into it was really just a matter of if you need a percentage of people who voted one way why would we bring it back up again and so some people have now put a petition on the war on the war for a town meeting they've called a special town meeting and rather than have the expense of having a separate town meeting we're going to do within the annual town meetings are there any way to have us opt out if ten meeting passes this we don't opt out they would still have to go on the ballot in the voters and still have to vote to opt out the concern of course is if it's a special election like we have with the minuteman you get a very minuscule turnout of advocates on one side or the other or from the town election where we just had fifteen people turnout think fifteen percent of the people turnout something like that you know  well it's more democratic to put it on the ballot let people vote again but it's more democratic to not rephotograph you know like the outcome so everybody's trying to argue from on high ground that i'm more democratic than you which i think is unfortunately how this time meeting is going to go but part of this often opt out if you recall that no one is taking away the medical marijuana so that we've already zoned medical marijuana locations and bomb and no one's opened one but we have the zoning in place and this is a medical marijuana dispensary subject with the subject of this article  so i'm just telling the stats there's an aspect of this that really relates directly to the market committee's responsibilities i suppose it's the potential tax revenue associated with so and there are different kinds of establishment that are allowed right now you could have a retail store you could have a growing place you could have a processing lab and there's another one i always forget but the so this this seeks to ban all of them now there's been talk that people will be amending this special to opt out of everything except for the retail store or up out of the retail store and everything you could end up with a whole series of amendments all card with opting out of each of the various types rather than opting out of all of it so i think it could be a bit revenues i mean if we were to do as a town say should we allow livestock processing plants in belmont we would all say wait a second that has an economic impact in this committee got t on that i think whether we think it's a large impact or a small impact whether we think it's easily measurable or not but this issue about whether or not to allow this kind of establishment in our town i think does have an economic impact in town meeting members would appropriately ask or look to the work committee to have a position i want to what i find tricky about this is adam resign to stand at the time has already voted on this question and this is know our options or it's really the legislature that souter options is one of the quick comment i'm not a friend who's a who's done quite a bit on this my understanding from her is that realistically speaking a matter what we adopt the only realistic marijuana use in belmont going to be a dispensary because there's going to be just one or two processing or testing centers in the state are going to be in the testing that was the testing a lot of these things are going to happen in western massachusetts because it's not an economic use of land and don't want to do really anything drawing town and allow people to sell alcohol with in the confines of the city so the vote that was taken was whether to overturn prohibition and now the vote that these folks are asking for you should we on whether or not we allow the tale of marijuana you know one of the arguments has been as with the alcohol this brings people to town it's an economic development in addition to the  taxes and all of that i suspect i think this was before my time in the work committee that we looked at whether or not we should allow alcohol sales i don't know what we did th isn't really the economics that's just background it's not and the board on the board of health meanwhile as passed regulations to govern marijuana should we not opt out they wanted to have them in place and the regulations would be no sales to anyone under twenty five rather than the state which was twenty one so those are the regulations if we don't opt out and it goes into effect and if we adopt the moratorium we go into effect till next year but if it goes into effect we have regulations in place because we're allowed to regulate time place and manner a lot of zone and regulations say the storage to look like this and signage like that and you know we can regulate hours and that sort of thing in the host agreement would be negotiated i think it must be negotiated so these are all things that you know there's a these establishment envelop or the other way the rebuttable presumption is because the town voted to legalize marijuana these establishments will be allowed unless the town proactively through a vote of the citizens votes to say we're not going to allow these steps because oh we're weighing in on whether we should give voters the option to prohibit brown bag on this and jeffrey wheeler and david david helper came and talked about it so the medical marijuana the restrictions that i guess it's a legislature put on it were tighter redefined the definition of places that children congregate to anyway so i think homes used to be included and they're not included now so the medical there's two locations one of them is like back behind the loading dock way back there and there's like one little piece of brighton and then there's like one little piece of pleasant and then this one is different there is a piece of belmont center and there is a piece of cushing square i forget and jeffrey said that they were things but not voting on anything nothing is sounding like the meeting the other meeting will have a lot of folks is that like the normal way that we do when we're not is a just part of the primeval for example the tax like the three percent tax that's what i like i could vote for right now it's just snapshot of where it might be headed based on discussions i have with trees this morning in very round figures the certified free cash on july one was five point six million dollars and so i like to do a little pro forma to try to estimate where free cash might be on july first  we have numbers for some things and very rough estimates for others so the starting point was free cash in july of two thousand and seven he was five point six million dollars and the will you be able to maintain that level of free cash might it go up for other forces that might bring it down so here's the way it's looking so far starting the five point six  point two million of that was already allocated for this year's operating budget so in order to stay even you would at least have to get back to point you million dollars so we have five point six minus two point two there's a deficit in snow and ice which has gotten a little bit complicated but right now the expectation is that be deficit in snow and ice will be about three hundred fifty thousand dollars so it's five point six minus two point two minus zero point three five that includes the four be as i've learned today that there's no draw on free cash due to basically the bill we're paying for natural gas this year we had some long term contracts that evidently expired in winter and we're not replaced by other long term contracts so we were buying basically spot market gas and that has for gas i don't know what happened there but you know the whole facilities the apartment that's so understand yes there's that managerial issue because the met the director left and i don't know who was minding the store with these contracts and the i to ask a question from the two point two million does that include six hundred thousand for the first station what six hundred thousand for my understanding was that the proposal was going to be to take half of the us from capital it would be not included in the two point zero so that would be an addition addition but what about so what is the the yes yeah that's a proposal because if you take all one point two billion dollars out of the discretionary capital budget you're simply wipe it out and so the question was would it be sensible to split it between free cash and leave this question or a capital budget that would be six hundred thousand dollars it's one point two million but there would be out of the five points ok well so here's the picture we've been in there's open up to rate and we usually have four hundred thousand or so the hope of that comes out of the cash yes y facilities is two point six five if the six hundred thousand is taken from the capital that's three point two five that would bring the cash down to approximately  is a big ask and our guideline for free cash say we're the big point is roughly four percent of the two thousand and eighteen operating budget which is about one hundred ten four percent of that is getting close to four it's getting close to four point five million so even to get to the midpoint of our free cash guideline when we've dropped   low as two point three five we need turned back to be at least two million dollars without any more adverse events and that just gets us back and that gets us back to a number that's below the two thousand and seventeen free cash and makes it much more difficult to draw on the free cash for the two thousand and nineteen operating budget so remembers i remember david kale sitting here telling us that the the the more tightly we budgeted the leather you know the less conservative we budgeted the less we're going to be replenishing free cash and i think we have to pull in somewhat and therefore you know it's not replenishing at quite the same robust rate you can make a decision which way you want to go but and david was pretty emphatic in his last year that he did not think so just to walk through the implications of this when you said you know i'm worried that we're going to get close to the town meeting time again if if the study was done it didn't seem as though that one point seven would be available is the answer then to go into the stabilization fund for this year or is it to make cuts in the budget or how but it's a process for working this through the suit the way it was explained was the money that was in stabilization was put there to draw from from the over and that was in fifteen so we took we there it's we took the minimal amount of percentage from free cash because we wanted to keep a better number and in our free cash reserve and then we then went into the stabilization of the one point five million to fund the the money just to know where we ended up ye third quarter review for april twenty fifth but i don't know the numbers at this point of the numbers will be available i mean is this one of the signs were talking about it will start to see with free cash as we get more pressure on the budget and we're going to hit that point where we have no would have about a budget and we've run out of funds to keep us there so i think we're starting to see the pressure mounted on the well and the concern of yet he's up is this an important forecasting exercise or as we sit here in april three months away from the end of the fiscal here are there tricks in the bag that we can use to falling two million any insight into the net effect of all of these variances basically between budgeted and actual revenues and expenses but that's what time backs are there's that and then there's often a piece that's unbudgeted for instance floyd stunned more than he project or he doesn't budget for things like past you think that texas city collects in and that kind of thing and so that has been a chunk that we've had i don't know what that reactive isn't the right word but they're not proactive things to do i mean remember the school department has said they often load their purchases of books and supplies and all that sort of stuff for the back end of the calendar s the budget gets tight they just defer those purchases or don't do there are other things that we can proactively do or that we want to proactively do i don't know where the you know it let's just assume for the sake of argument that we're not to get two million dollars of turn backs which will just be missed projections if you will of our operating budget let's say our operating budget is pretty much right on the mark and we're going to end up with a free cash balance of two and a half would we as a ten home watch and do some things to reduce our expenses by two million to get that free cash up to four and a half or would we prefer to go into fiscal year nineteen with  two want to have you know under percentage projection of where our free cash balances i mean how proactive do we want to be and then we be in the last three months of the here order to change that number so my end game on where i'm going is that it's unfortunate that this is happening now because it's going to be our fiscal year and these financials are the ones that will go to market with for the for the for the high school bond issue so it's a very it's very unfortunate timing to have free cash plunge right when we're going to go to market for well if you get down now i have to know because cash is not the only place the town has money the bond ratings are also looking at all of these are funds and there's a there's of you know sort of you know just kind of or anything like any device or anything we do can do to book a better number for the end of the year for the purpose of having something that when we go to market for the biggest fund if you've ever done we get a better free cash number right be in favor of even if it's delaying filling positions for three months going to the school department saying don't do your usual this is the reason why it's very important that here that we have war that is i honestly think the bond  and we're not going out to bond between now and i mean we're we're going to vote anyway and no better and then there's this really long process where you're finishing the design i mean we're not starting construction on this thing for what have very high reserves relatively speaking and that's what the bottom funding agencies separately from the well i was but was something of a look right pocket transaction but still have some value of stabilization fun i think still the key point of this is that you ideally should be able to substantially refund much whatever you're drawing down for the operating budget particularly we're now pretty close to what we got i know this anyway for a while we thought we were really significantly above the guidelines so it was actually sensible to draw down a bit but i think we've reached close to the limits of that we draw down and replenish from is actually  see it every year and that's what and this week we've always had a fairly significant weekly project or local receipts much lower than than even than they actually has been in the past often and so i'm just curious to see what what that looks like for last year and because i think that might give us some comfort depending on assuming our budgeting was done fairly similarly this year i know we have some extra expenses that are going to come out of reserve funds but those shouldn't impact well they will  a longer term comment i guess but as we budget tighter and as free cash gets tighter there are certain things which suggest that our budget is not actually balanced one of them is i don't know when the last time the four hundred thousand dollar reserve fund was increased but it's been that way for ever since i've been paying attention and that's that's something that might need to be looked at as we get tighter and tighter and also to be honest the capital budget i mean you know this year we have this extraordinary expense of one point two million dollars but that's not all that much and honestly that's the entire discretionary capital budget except for two hundred thousand dollars i mean so so we we have to look at these things and think about whether we need to increase certain line items i think in the budget and that has to do with having an override i understand but these things have to be discussed we've talked about having another financial taskforce the selectmen i know are looking at that i think these are things which as we get tighter these things are going to be more and more crisis like if we don't have enough to cover them and i think they had said to at one point you know with the end star money with other money that has come in that was above what we've checked in the financial task force was there conversation is there a conversation to be had about how that might be whether some of that could because it's a permanent increase in new growth that is a bump that we weren't expecting could that have been or can that be you know over time allocated a couple hundred thousand to capital budget or to something else that was you know i think i added it up one time when we had a presentation on it looking at sort of what the what the financial taskforce had projected and then what we actually were we're were very conservative and there was there are these bump up we were not expecting the star at that level and so the question is how do we make the decision then about using those funds or do you know because because that would be an opportunity to say let's take some of that to the town outlining i guess my take on some of these questions and but rather than have it just be something from me it may be controversial enough that this committee may want to have a kind of a majority report and a minority report or maybe a range of views that people would put their name to in the executive summary but i think the time has come where some significant choices have to be made and a choice means that the definition of a choice is that you're choosing something at the expense of something else you can't have it all and i think we're at a time when when something you really have to prioritize and decide what it is that you really need and what you can do without and we among all people in this town have at least a better sense of what those trade offs might look like and i think i think the work report would be useful if at least identified one of those trade offs are and how they might be addressed entire town ideally would show up and make their feelings known because i think with these it's going to be impossible to accommodate every desire and some things are really under under way in that department i'm not sure exactly what the young result will be because the really the project will be finished until fall no understood but just that there's going to be a process to do that seems really strikes me as important because that seems because it's one thing to get build that into a model or that a model provide that type of insight in a spreadsheet i think those are really decisions that decision makers might be in the time i was a whole make and then but is there and i mean it's something i've asked about something i got here and keeps saying there is something that exists i've never seen it that shows a projection over multiple years where you could layer in the cost of various capital projects and stagger them different ways and presumably also increase the regular capital budget as well to show that there is such a model of what i heard haitian recently was that the college center  unless there's some sort of output people want to be confused about everyone knows there's an overwhelming amount of capital projects that we have difficulty paying for that's people can now write really mean the column center staff have indicated that they can provide a more detailed financial planning model where a greater range of assumptions about capital spending for example can be made in this  the projected stream of revenue expenses i'm sorry i wasn't being clear so i'm trying to connect it to what you were describing to be your introduction to the report i'm i'm i'm not understanding what you said this year's budget i think that's great i think the fairest that should lay out issues are things to think about not necessarily proposed solutions or whatever but i think the right would be a very good happened i would add to that that a lot of planning we can talk about a lot of planning before that vote but until we know what happens with that was if it passes there's one set of psychological sort of circumstances that we're going to have to deal with after it because it's the largest thing we have ever done it's a huge it's a huge ask of the population we have many other things to ask them for ask ourselves for and psychologically i don't know what it's going to look like next year we have to see if it doesn't pass it's even worse i agree with you about what is going to be a disaster to sas and i don't know you can have both of those conversations happening at the same time constraints itself more accessible of the general public and i think the second some reason i have to carry that ball let me just remind you that we're not meeting next week  created a new business development study committee to replace the old business development committee and this would be a six month study committee to made up of business people and peace well who've been complaining about belmont being not business friendly logjams of things taking too long to go and find where the log jams are make recommendations on how to fix them and then create a new business development committee that would then focus on fixing that stuff so that if you if you know people who would be interested in a six month tenure we would appreciate that we are working on a contract with the housing trust for the c p a project based on the comments from last time we put it on the agenda for this like when we have the housing trust come in they we have town council go through the template contract and make it into a specific contract for us we then had a robust discussion about it and sent the housing trust back to tweak it and then come back with it so we hope we would like to before the c p a comes to town meeting to have a contract all in place not signed but all in place as you rightly suggested if not it is almost so but i can tell you at least the conversation this is happening that came directly out of my sitting here last time so thank you we discussed fund supplemental funding requests that have come from the departments and been vote on any of those biggest patrice's looking into funding sources that may be outside of having to add to the budget so we will see all those go and then some of them we just are honestly just not going to be able to do because we do not have the cash we also offered to the new general manager of government like position to christopher roy the assistant general manager in concord and we are process of working on a contract with him and hopefully that will be totally board meeting tomorrow night if not it will be ongoing but director of community development at the last meeting that we had and it's pretty clear that because of the two overwrites we have just put money aside for the roads we're catching up with our roads they're better they're actually getting better and glen can spend some money out of his budget on sidewalks that are next to the roads that he's redoing there for them the two hundred thousand i'm sorry put a thousand that was voted in the override for sidewalk repair can actually be turned back to j market and can actually start being used to repair the sidewalks so that is really good news i mean this is something that the town has been years and years without spending any money on roads and