this piece of evidence comes up in my last argument but it's called and here i'm going to quote from dr tutor i think this settles the matter if you have somebody who is a coal miner for decades and you do it very careful autopsy looking for the diagnostic criteria of c w p that is the presence of coal dust and adjacent fiberoptic interstitial change one more time if i can ask for that doctor tooter said unequivocally quote if you have somebody who is a coal miner for decades and you do a very careful autopsy looking for the diagnostic this admission by dr tutor makes it practically impossible to believe the claimant does not will not have c w b now so if you take if you take a dr meyer statement of fifty that right yeah except i got more chips on the table now i was saying fifty percent or now i've got the expert the guy that done more saying hundred percent and i think that's very critical when you start a case with an understanding  to the date to the day when he has to prove that by section one out  bush no bird to to accept my theory which no burden on the response all we have to do is take the chest x rays at the right time they could take the same number that they're taking now they just have to take him at the right time next step before pasta and what i argue with you is hey that means when he sees your one they saw opacities consistent with it the right size the right place that's not quite enough that's what zero one mean and i argue in that rosenberg's x rays were timely not of dr wiest x rays were timely in an ironic twist dr rosenberg report was written in april of two thousand mine that's just four months prior to the running of to niceties report because he did record you in taken after him and what's interesting about that is that the employer as a matter of tactics made its calculation and to term it would not have rosenberg picture of state it doesn't change your questions on the down so i think he's a great leader i think all these guys are great i think all of the readers can be the same and they can all be right and if we look at this in a rational readings and we talked about how is the commission to determine the credibility that's what the commission's got past i mean in this case i have a chart that can't keep up with all the readings at the x rays they've got to look at these interpretations somehow determine which one which way they're going to resolve that those conflicting opinions and in one way they may do that is taking into consideration the testimony regarding how to see them usually present itself doesn't say that it always presents itself and that manner but we're going to look at it and seeing is this new general progression  left home lying is this relevant because at that time he had been exposed to it for thirty three plus years experts in this case did not examine mr stevens that is most of the readers and i think back to why it is one of them just like he doesn't want to know anything about the other history and he wants to stick to assume that there's been sufficient exposure and then he's going to look at the x ray he doesn't want to know about any think there's any evidence here from you know the experts or the treating physician dr paul that supports the finding that these other conditions if present were related to this whole of us exposure you started out talking about this higher than the other if you have the biggest irony of it and i think this is dynamite i hope you all remember this i hope it's in the front of your mind if you make your decision and i'm not going to read it again even though it over these guys life in an industry where we know this has it exists and now tutors put the put the work to it you're all going to have it infected if it makes you wonder how much did how much did  say who should i go to i do legal court with his son i love it and we disagree and fight like dogs and cats in these depositions but one thing about doctors he says what's on his mind when it comes to black lung he's one hundred percent on the side of the company when it comes to asbestosis that's the stores he's one hundred percent on the side of the worker because he believes something different about that than he believes about black law i give him a great deal of credibility and i'm like i said when he says everybody's going to have it that just means a whole lot now to some specific things said that miss worse  prejudice you therefore when the company has or has a medical record with you and we're talking about c to b p it's a complete waste of time and money and i would would leave that