seventy four and this is really interesting because what is it seventy four that eighty four ninety four two thousand and four two thousand and fourteen and what i'm doing this is two thousand and eight so that's forty four years ago wow may and and what's interesting about this is you can look back forty four years ago to see where wom where women were that many years ago and it's a positive piece you know i mean obviously they haven't come as far as they are today although maybe one might wonder but  it's a positive piece and so you can fit it into the progress of women and it's just interesting to look back and see where women were and what they were seeing in forty four years ago as being  accomplishment all it's is educational you're going to enjoy this i mean they're just basically back then and especially before the help wanted ads were you know men and women in the women section you'd see like secretaries daycare preschool teachers that kind of thing where we were in the middle and five top executive roles you know but not for women so this was raised at the cusp of that changing and women were gradually being being able to get into a boardroom and hold top notch positions anyway so i could go on and on i'm not just sit back and enjoy  it owns newsweek magazine it has a television division with four television stations and two readiest stations we have a new service with the los angeles times which is distributed to three hundred papers here and around the world we have newsweek international we own forty nine percent of the paper mill and canada i am also publisher of the washington post so that i have a line job and  lot of noise in the dressing room because they brought me out with them when i was about four years old and i were to in theater and also doing doing radio because my parents were very big in radio when radio was very big i did that almost exclusively until i was about seventeen and it was then that t v first came to australia where i lived and i had my first experience in television and i was tribes organizations and communities of indian people throughout the country my name is virginia after i have a very interesting position with march of dimes and five persons medical centers for working in town in the field of birth defects surgeon then it was in a depression i found that no woman i knew in new york city was a surgeon who made her living at it if you had money or had a husband with money and since i brought all the money from medical school i changed feels completely or the situation that i'm me and i have to be more diplomatic at particular times different times and i have to think it through would it be more added would it be better for the success of what we're doing if a man played the leadership role i would have said two or three years ago before the women's issues had arisen so much to the fore is i have now i would have said then that i never felt discrimination obviously if you're the number one woman in a in an organization i mean the number one person in an organization it's hard to discriminate against you that there are other situations in which you feel a bit when you're on an equal basis with men in a committee meeting or something in which you feel they don't have much regard for your view i've also become aware in the last two or three years that a lot of men really don't like working for a woman i'm a sort of a poet but that means a lot of different things to me that means that not only you write something called poetry but that you live something called life i like  and the community and the nation are requiring personal decisions when college minetta decide whether or not they chose to fight a war in vietnam when black still does that it is that whether or not they would choose to hack it at a white university and get the that i've ever faced is going to nation as a woman as yet and i think that's because the racial situation in america makes most black women face discrimination as black i don't think that the movement is as relevant to the when we look at the history of slavery we have a whole situation where no one cared if you were a woman or not you had to get out into the field after freedom no one cared whether you were a woman or not you had to work to support your around your family so black women that's one of the problems that women live has i think in related to the black woman they they look at themselves with women but with that look at ourselves as black i think it's my indian this is slowed me down not because i mean that because our people saw me as a new and caused me to withdraw and it's happened to so many people as it's made of drawing to ourselves that we do this is a protective mechanism you know to protect yourself from any kind of personal mental cruelty and it became something as i developed that protective making isn't something i had to overcome when i became older you know we have the highest suicide rate in the country four times national average and i think a lot of that comes from that stemming from that feeling in characters ultimate of self hate to being taught that they are cool that they are deprived i think that is unfair because i was i'm sure as poor as anybody what you still have to achieve and i regret the way that our youngsters are being taught that they cannot achieve because of an external situation and therefore should not it's made junkies out of hand i'm concerned about our youngster because we are preaching despair and i resent that the worst handicapped women working under is the self inflicted one that if you've grown up thinking of yourself as a second class citizen that you tend to put yourself down and i think that the younger generation of women they have a choice and that there are no horizons too broad or too hard for them to think along and i think that the people who've grown up thinking that they can do anything or nothing are the ones who won't have a handicap my generation had have an understanding husband of our parents generation for example of a woman's goal in life was to get married and have children make a professional career out of that and i know when i was growing up i was always taught that i could have my choice i could have a successful career or i could be a good wife and mother and i was amazing freedom for me was to be able to have both and to be able to build a good job but and i think a lot of young women now who are leaving high school and going into college are really thinking seriously about a career about doing something with their lives other than just marrying and having children and then your student like anybody else and  degree but if you go city for four years you ought to get their feet they're looking for what is happening in the world and i lose you what is it that i have these feelings that i would like to try this that is the other and i think that one of my responsibilities is to support to what i know is not an easy situation to say we're yes you know we do know that that and it will be a yes but it will be nice if you have a doctor when i was a little girl i want to very badly to be a missionary and because i was turned off by being biased but i knew existed against women in the in the church and i think i was destined to go into show business anyway but i feel in a sense that i am doing missionary work that i have a goal to try to uplift women to try to give them a little confidence in themselves and that's what the palings for i really don't think that you should achieve success just to make yourself a been shot i think you have to take the power and use it and try to help other people with it everyone away with my perceptive powers of correct analysis i even used to think i'd be the word to stop the run it illegal he ate the piece then i welcome to that if dream natural dreams of being a natural woman doing what a woman the will she is natural i would hand a revolution when you're twenty you want to run out and change the whole world when you're thirty you realize that you have a monumental task just to change yourself just to change your own immediate environment then they want to be productive citizens women particularly who have to take care of their families they don't want public assistance they want to be able to go out and work be able to pay their taxes so that they can be considered productive citizens but if you don't have childcare centers you have all of these women who have to support their politics would make a different i have a feeling it would but not in the way that people think on the paper the issue arose very strongly in connection with and make the input as an example i claim that the men didn't cover the abortion bill in congress until it almost came to the vote but they didn't realize the importance of that issue to women and so in that sense of it women high up in the media make a difference but whether we'd have a better world or a more peaceful world i tend to doubt a woman is much more childcare in education and in health care and caring for the elderly those kind of things particularly the the environment for example these are only areas that women have traditionally concern themselves with and i think the absence of women in government is one of the reasons why these parts of our system of just being allowed to go to rot i'm really concerned about the quality of life i don't know you know i have a little nephews fourteen and i just don't know what because i can't i can't even tell in words like you know honor and duty you know what i mean because he doesn't know what i do you know what was what is wrong with you i told me once that i wanted to be the first black governor of ohio and his immediate reaction was oh shoot i don't want to get  what do you think you know that's kind of saying to me you know something like service because i believe in service i think that for black people it's going to be the only thing that's going to get is over i don't think schools are preparing boys and girls equally to you know to face  the real world i think they're still i don't i've found we've found that education educational institutions are really one of the hardest institutions to change i have had the chance to observe my daughter's education because she's been educated here and i think that there's a tremendous amount of of of sexual discrimination applied the fact that you know girls line up in one line and boys in another  the report card that we that we get sent home says the he is failing to do his best or things like that it's always he or the fact that boys and girls don't get a chance to compete together in sports the fact that  many schools women and girls i denied the chance to learn would craft or or let the craft and boys i denied the opportunity to learn how to cook or so or something which some of them i have a natural talent for movement when will we start looking at each other as human beings instead of as million women the feminist movement has become much more of a grassroots movement three years ago people thought of women's liberation  freaks in new york city now house wife in indiana or a secretary in illinois now feel that the issues of women's liberation are things that affect their lives they're still afraid of the term they don't i say why don't believe in women's liberation but i do believe in equal pay for equal work i do believe there should be child case in his they go on to list all the goals of women's liberation but because of the unfavorable image that the media have given feminists they tend to shy away from the term women's liberation it is possibly when you were little days when women were considered to be part of the property of women i think is going to take  for this to be overcome but i think it's always worry i wouldn't be surprised if he would go that woman price over the next twenty to twenty five years particularly if the women continue to move into the restroom if they're moving now  the appreciation for people who are different and what they believe in for instance my grandfather was a p o d me and my grandmother was a christian and they respected each other's religion and leave it when interfered with the other and i think to appreciate people's difference and respect it makes you more flexible and makes you really benefit from knowing all kinds of people and not to fear them because they're different i think that everybody is entitled to live a lifestyle you know people  people in united states and to give up the melting pot myth i think the greatest challenge is to bring about a change i believe and an organization i believe organizing on a community level because group pressure is what makes people respond that you can bring about change if you organize around issues and perhaps struggle itself it is worth the effort whether you ever completely open all the doors or not