draft job description and ever touch been for the planning and moving and zoning administrator position for our review i would like to do that immediately after the public hearing of the draft plan so that if cynthia can stay with us or other members of the planning commission we can have input that way applications decide who we are going to interview and ask brian then to start calling people and setting up interviews and i'll solicit the opinion of the board members as to what the best time of day to do that is to the extent  can be handled in one session that would be a good time is a wasting is the twelfth and i understand brian may be leaving seventeen days from the forward the other thing i would like to commission yes ok so i guess that question would be to the planning commission and we're here to have a hearing right yes so what was your let's start with the top which which is if you look towards the end there are some maps that specifically indicate my property is not used by any human and there are no homes out there you i think these came from the county i would should have gotten a response from the planning commission i would have people developing a plan should work so what classification which would like to see those same as everybody else in the area where you see everybody the town plan off of it should be consistent and when we point out there are homes there are businesses out there that minimally it should say in the notes we understand the map is incorrect however the following properties do have homes that's perfectly reasonable i can understand not spending fifty thousand dollars to go get a new map but give us a paragraph i say these properties exist they do have human activity they do have homes and and did every property bust five years did every property in that in that town there's a photograph of every property we have exactly what it is today and yesterday it's not in the plan this is just for planning purposes it's not  in years this there has so this map has no legal standing standing for sony it's just a reference to what's in the town very loose  very interesting as well that the current some of the current lawsuits that the town is in based off of the perceptions of what's available to be used as trails which are right next to the you know human activities there are homes or businesses and we're being told it doesn't matter the perception is that the town would like to continue to use trails it will be looked at as though there's a potentially a trail when we go to subdivide and put in all the reasons that we're having a town plant right on the arm can you point out to me where the trail starts right about here i'm guessing past the last on cost by a lot yes right up through most of us find was right but the person on classified a lot has access to their driving through a class for road getting into an argument there that i'm happy to go with but maybe gauri also can go down the  whatever we want to call the current point my where i'm headed for this it looks very suspicious that property is in a lawsuit with a town or being on classified we're trying to let you know that there's an issue with a map  and that if the town is presenting we want to preserve natural areas we're talking about what we want for trails and how it might become an issue in the future i think that should be part of the plan to say hey here are the areas we're thinking about here are the areas we're not and if we choose to do something if it's just looks awfully convenient that the only two areas on that that are unclassified are ours and then we're telling you they're ours and the the problem with making things too specific about you know this is a particular hurry of that we want to go off and classified in a particular way in the town plan and he said then it can come back and bite you basically it turns into a regulation when it is brought into a subdivision process it is up to the process media plan is referred to and if someone comes into this specifically says this here then there can have  summarize we are going to look at the map we are going to see about classification i can't promise anything but we're going to definitely look into it now i'd like to move on to your comment about trails off what are your particular concern about the town and where we might plant their trails and they would not be created with input from residents you're talking about reparations walking trails nuffield right of way trails highway trails oh no those are i mean that's not there will be working groups to determine their own to follow through if you look at the last section of the plan it talks about groups in town work committees or commissions should be responsible for have any legal authority over trails but they were the town plan says that they're the ones that are walking trails so for walking trails which committee specifically are you concerned i'm specifically trying to figure out what the town plans are for trails the town plans as it was this committee that moved into that committee which doesn't me on what we're talking about plan right now we're not talking the committees charge of figuring out the direction we are going to trails committee was created it was for the all the walking trails we have a lot of private trails by school walking horse trails all over town and there were concerns at that time of our private ownership and things like that and these were to address those things they're talking about private trails there i am as well and but you're referencing a legal trail known all the trails in town are supposed to be looked at and who do we talk to if you want to know what's going on for the trails and i found actually a question of what's going on specifically about a specific trail please that's what i'd like to know where the already the only trails that town all controls in any way shape or form are legal trails and you can look them up on the stated from our road map just type in underhill state official map or roads and you will get that information i have to read a lot to talk my head i would be wrong and i will not be held against me for doing that that's fine so much specifically between fall of the road  members on the conservation commission the conservation commission he may be with plantings of ford off permission rolled into planting supplanting might be go along stop what they're doing change their agenda become the conservation committee because we are having a shrinking pool of volunteers and i hate to put more work on the plane commission because they work really hard and we are generally not taking input on private trails anymore just because it's out of our purview so that's where we stand trails so recreational trail should be part of the town plan even though there's no one in town taking  somehow i made it to where the trails are armed to get rid of the chapter if there's no one to talk to about it a really unfortunate to try to formalize some very slight trails that we have there very important to the distance just yet and there's no reason right now to make it a formal for a while but you know it's very important to me and it's important to everybody else in the neighborhood to on do you have any more comments so your concert is on of what page is that well the chapters ten point one through the end of the trail section so probably starting page fifty five will read that and a lot take a look at it and if it's soft out of the purview of the local government i may add it and then one would be reasonable to know if you're going to do this that in the next meeting is that and we haven't done  on the same subject we're not going to at this point because we have one hundred twenty days from when the plane commission voted on it to approve this we have had our first meeting on that within thirty days make it easier straight so this is tonight is the first meeting we have a second meeting so sometime over the summer on it will get that sometime within the next hundred twenty days plus or minus that get approved but we are here you and we're listening to you s still on the town play in this anyone have any comments or criticisms ok so see no more comments or criticism i have a comma oh i'm sorry ok i just want to say thank you very much this is a significant effort it is not only a very comprehensive order rationally out it's it's beautifully done in terms of it's got the photographs the chapter sections are nice and what i didn't see in the prior plan maybe i missed it was resumes came in i notice first on the c f m or certified floodplain manager the planning commission thinks perhaps this should be eliminated i agree that it should be major planning but there are lots of things you could major it could be a civil engineer but it will be a civil engineer for example right but perhaps a significant study bachelor's degree something experienced in the field is required some some is some experience i would just myself say experience in the field it is desirable and down and then change  i do have some questions on this one then maybe if you guys want to speak again to where the corporate ought to be no we did not all agree last  before it gets to the to him not just to stay i want to break because if you come all the way up the hill all the way up the steep hill to get to this point you have to come back down the street you know to get into the slot and the nicest so it actually works out nicely we kind of went back and forth with how we should lay down deal you know looking at me following the trails but i think that it makes more sense to just not go up and come back down  huge well the do greenidge is a big issue for us we have lots of dreams and we have lots of the really heavy we had heavy downpours last twenty four hours we have washed outs just last night you know and up it's water water water is on our mind all the five to be pulled back now i don't know if you picked up the road ordinance or not we tried to highlight it and pursued to a suggestion actually from member of the dealer be to avoid people bouncing back and forth between us of the dealer be to us and so on you come to us and get a permit for the whole schmear as far as driveway and access is concerned if the d r p says no you have to move that lots that becomes a different story but in the ideal situation all your drawings and profiles of what goes where in the culvert dimensions or whether site you know is taken care of by us before you go engineering for longer than i'd like to mention here but a long time and that's pretty far even this is really far into engineering design you know our i can confidently told our team five lots of looking pretty good at i mean maybe they don't want to do the on the other hand and then you know what we were faced with in the past was the d r b which doesn't approve driveways having their own ideas of things really so we would like to see from them where we're going and perhaps start to get things moving all over well i can tell you what how about this big because we don't really have a formal front of us beatles i understand your concern in with him enough i can guess where you're headed given traffic may travel faster than thirty five what's the sight distance required for someone doing forty five which that intersection safe we're using i'm talking about new construction and the safety of new construction or to make it safe it needs to be but i don't do forty five through there i'll tell you that voice you know so i think that thirty mile an hour speed limit is it was it wasn't done by us it was done by and it was engineered the speed limit we have to go ball jackson hill before he goes of thirty so if you're coming down that hill and you say warning speed table thirty miles an hour more it actually is not specific just once more local control due consideration i would you may have see the e mails that went around the guess from firms strictly in my personal capacity now it seems to me that since there is a bill in the legislature and the legislature is wrapping up sometime in the next ten days or less citing sitting on the hill well some people are some people are and i share their concerns a certain extent my place i could put up a solar thing that nobody would see it on the other bios's big field along the river road if you convert that into a solar farm like the one that's down there and share it whatever a lot of people of the real surge was also i would say that we do have a little concern i mean i'm right in the same area difference between you know a single landowner putting in some solar for himself or herself versus you know some conglomerate that's for a broader community which i'm saying is proposed and publicized  area to get me to join neighbors together to do our larger installation so i too i think you know we all should be allowed to to to to or to provide for our individual needs but there has to be some point where we consider what's the  sort of the cart before the horse yeah especially with making this that that's explicit with subdivisions and the lot to be implicit just logically than anything else i have not studied the lover of twenty placed on top of a road that had to bring the class for section took the road up to their driveway to standard can we decide this today or do we need more time to think about this obvious looking that is it the conclusions ok if matters it's the african shall provide one additional parking space for the accessory to go in for a minimum total of three spaces but then it says improvements to the driver shall be the seventy one residential driveway standards so is that provisions of twenty seven forty one as follows it's open spaces farmland just forest land and everybody checks it's a house site what does that mean this is not one of the permitted under twenty four seventy one of us not one of the permitted items  so the form is all wrong they do define how site is to it there's a plan surrounding the house and the statute is on to say the open space doesn't include the house site but our town contract says it doesn't the big bill in nine and a half days time now there was another question that came up last year when we were talking about these things which is the purpose open space or but some people they can subdivide any anyway because of covenants or is wetlands or something or other or who would be eligible for current use although the land contract is easier provided most recently although i think you said you some egypt stuff was going back to the dawn of time you know i just couldn't find even seventy i thought i had a land contract file at home but apparently not but what happened most recently in two thousand and nine is the town voted to continue to grant dislike for the general authority to negotiate land contracts as authorized by twenty seven forty one twenty seven forty one provides you they either provide general already to his legislative branch to entering such contracts as application is made or provide limited authority shall be affected by ratification by a majority of those present a town meeting next time uniform yes no discrimination nothing arbitrary but we can establish as policy that if the town is otherwise if the properties of the was eligible for current use but in current use  shall be set in the grand list that's fifty percent of its assessed value starting april one twenty fifteen but the grandness has already said that's the other problem is we do retroactive so yeah we can we can do these things retroactively i suppose but i'd like to know hockey if we're talking about whether they are otherwise covenanted or making people swear that this land is wherever eighteenth of march board meeting of april twenty eighth twenty fifteen is there a second one second ok done i see here the packet a standard sub recipient to beam and yes what is this relating to the give the december start the december strong do we need to sign this you get our money and all i have i don't need double coverage but it's it's it's a process problem it's one of things it's more effort to get me out now and get me back in on my return than it would be view it is already a budget cost for brian's dental vision and life oh one hundred seventy eight dollars a month so by approving its continuation we are not changing the budget at  all would rather continue the coverage rather than try to reinstate it lee you're going to be gone how long five months yeah outside of the five hours i went to five your side window for  brian bigelow to be continued with the current payment situation say one hundred percent by the town in accordance with the memo from ramona shepherd finance director dated may twelfth but the about dump trucks and other capital improvements so that is that that brings us now i think you have a special meeting scheduled for noon of may twenty sixth to o that a while ago we decided to forbear issuing a notice supply lation to piney grove because they are in violation of their permit because goblin or somebody was going to provide a plan for a cure we have not seen such a plan and i have not any communication from our lawyer saying that he seen such a plan so i just want to put on the agenda for next time as to whether we should consider continue our forbearance in the meantime i will raise this with our lawyer to raise it with their lawyer their lawyer course may say that he only represented gotland for purposes of the appeal from the denial of the certificate of compliance and since that appeal withdrawn with prejudice he no longer has a lawyer this is getting very hairy this case it was already harry the second thing is it appears that although taxes would be due on may fifteenth fifteenth somebody we don't know who on behalf of whoever we don't know who owns that property paid more than what was due right to the end of the fiscal year and in fact they are due a refund of the order of three hundred  which is a draw box at a strip mall for the house next door because both of those are listed at dropbox addresses into guy next door and the strip mall in crestview florida or someplace and the taxes were ting that the penalty can be as the penalty is daily and can be as high as eight hundred dollars a day we sometimes get people's attention and can decide that another time  time or tonight now the next thing or the planning and sorry the temporary i don't have these in any order except the people who i thought might be worth interviewing perhaps  ecause this is the way we did it once on the on the planning commission we're looking for sarah we eliminated those who were clearly eliminated so we didn't have to think about them the way we call them in and let me suggest without rancor or disrespect or anybody that we can put aside for example rachel fyfield i'm sorry ok well it is strange administrative leave we got the things on career builder come in a particular form by e mail and chris methinks really is this wristing background but in running health care situations he's a chief financial officer for various health care situations