delicious lunch and delicious lunch from the grange so that'll be good this venue is a little different than town center meeting room so please stand state your name and wait to be recognized so that we keep order tonight and finally before we do anything else i want to recognize that this is chris grandest last regular selected meeting so i'm well thank him again to morrow but i want to appreciate his dedication to the psych ward in the town and no matter if i agreed or disagreed with chris he has been a strong and effective advocate for this town and his commitment to fair and respectful debate and discussion has helped elevate our political discourse your expertise will be missed but i know we'll repeat back and thank first order two four six one purchase order two four five seven bull having to do with the new highway truck and then we will go into the freetown meeting information sessions starting with the west make utility extension this is the pond the water sewer bond will discuss the conservation the temporary certificate of occupancy because nothing like that exists the d r p conditional use hearing is doubling from one fifty three hundred dollars that largely represents increased gebre ties in costs that subdivision plans or plans that involve projects that are going to be turned over to the public like streets roads or underground utilities and that sort of thing and it would be difficult to just look at piece of paper and try to get an idea of what you might have to pay typically these fees are decided after consultations with staff and the applicant to try to get an understanding of  how many hours of professional review there might they might need to have for certain applications i don't think this is it's arbitrary to a nature but it's not arbitrary and negative way these things really are possible to predict sometimes have the conceiving exceed the initial estimate of what the technical review fee might be there be asked to supply additional ask roe for that what i'm hearing you said in fact these fees are not arbitrary but are driven by the actual amount of staff time that it takes in order to satisfy the review is that true that's true but i guess the estimate would ok it's unpredictable  hearing on this which would be the step first step to adoption and just how far do we have to do that at least four weeks so the best way to do that might be able six which is the first meeting of april it would replace our existing animal control ordinance with a modified model ordinance developed by the vermont league of cities and towns this does a couple of things that our current ordinance doesn't do in particular statutory authority allows you to take a lot of action if a dog is potentially vicious off of its owner's property we're putting this into this ordinance that you can take those same actions if it's on the owner's property also the concern b l c t's stated in their penetrations from the model ordinance was that this will increase your workload and if you get in you need to act in a consistent manner because if you drop the ball on some of these complaints you might have mixed an additional liability for failing to act in the case where it's on that winners property and i think that's an issue i don't think the workload is an issue i think in fact the select board wanted to see comments or questions from the public take that authority and regulate the private person's private dog on their private property and why would that not fall under some other statutes such as assault or battery where so you know because i am guessing can and can't think of a situation where where that would be a political in the past year i can think of two instances where a dog has attacked someone in that person had to be transported to the hospital for treatment and in that case the health officer is notified there's no criminal statute for when  dog attacks someone there there's only the thought was governing dogs on your property and there are not criminal so you could only take action as a town to either quarantine the dog or remove the dog or find the owner if you have an ordinance that allows you to do so otherwise it would be a civil matter of the would have very little to do with it if it were all that's like that's my question why would he want to have authority to do something on private property where say dark goes on to say i go on someone's property get bit by a dog could it also be said that i was trespassing and that was the purpose of the dog was to buy trespassers and would that should the town be involved in regulating that type of activity whereas if the dog was down on the green or on a sidewalk and that someone that we obviously have authority order an order to restrain their dog say you have a dog on your property in it and if it's someone and then the next day but another person in the following day but another person  his property by him biting people where they are or is the dog off its property fighting people on the question ok right so well i guess my concern is why are we regulating what people are doing on their own property with their own property i also want to know our other towns jeff you mentioned something is this in line with other towns and how they're able to proceed if there is a dangerous dog i'm assuming these people aren't trespassing and running onto their property but there are people that come onto the property to lever something or ring the doorbell and are getting bitten and there's no recourse is that correct we have a research to do with the hotel and ordinances but other cases euthanize the dog if that was the case it really has to do with authority of the select board to do anything that in that instance so the dog is off the owner's property the la that authority this ordinance by by a matter of a couple of words also provides you with that authority if the if it's on the owner's property if you can choose to not do a farmer's market to request on alcohol that just three years ago we amended the park ordinance to allow the farmer's market to have one alcoholic beverage vend wine vendor participate in the farmer's market at the farmer's market is now asking if the ordinance could also be read to read one alcoholic vendor but not the same under every time i looked back through the minutes and they're not specific on that specific but i know that we had talked about making it a wine then you're at the for a variety of yours so there they're asking you what your opinion might be whether it could or would not i think they could as long as you only had one per market it didn't have to be the apply for a local license i recall this discussion and i and my recollections at that at the time this is only i was thinking this when i think the board at the time was thinking in terms of the model of vendors who tended every farmer market throughout the season you know it's just the way that most vendors do but i recall most of the concern that we heard from the publican voiced by members of the board of the time being around the the volume of alcohol serve the who might have access to it was related to too if more towards a number of vendors than than the identity of the vendor personally i would i would have no problem with the with the vendors switching out as long as we're talking about wine or beer and not hard alcohol which i imagine would not be possible anyways  beverage you know about her something there are quite a few micro distilleries around around the area around the state would allow those types of samples so what at what for they just asking us to do you agree that they could rotate  they mean i don't know why they would just do it so i don't really think we need to take any action except to say that there seems to be no opposition from the board right now and that you know i would let them know herds we just have the police department report this time i do want to mention that the trickle water request is still in effect and will be in effect for the next two weeks at least  we had another two frozen services today we don't know if people know this but for five or news last week we were below zero the frost continues to expand deeper into the ground and free  repairing that emergency water main break can be ten to thirty thousand dollars and guess who pays for that of the users of the system so fast we need to be running our water treatment at about pencil with about what people who do have frozen service should look for when the temperature goes up i think candles probably talk to everyone that has a personal service generally you're we actually have a third purchase order that i received today ok all right so the first purchase order is number two four six one two parks truck center in the amount of sixty three thousand six hundred sixty seven dollars and this is for the purchase of an international cab and chassis as specified in our recent highway truck with their motion to approve purchase order two four six one a move to approve purchase order two four six one second the conforming bid for the build from scratch so what you have the front of me now is the awful lot truck which is already complete already has a schedule for the body package that we want the delay waiting for the package to be put together it's sitting there and choirs is working with us and understanding full well that they don't get paid until this gets authorized and approved they're ok approve purchase thirty two for six two in the amount of twenty seven thousand five hundred ninety one dollars and fifty cents to h p fairfield for to replace the dump body we had two different truck accidents that night slip backwards on ice and ran into a tree but the tree hit the part of the dump body sort of shield over the ca for quite a few people that develop gateways of tightly controlled that they didn't feel the town was prepared to do a good job with a twenty or thirty year bonds quite a long time we cannot predict the study are also very familiar with the area we do have some issues with coming down through from the from the school down through the reef property and  those issues have been addressed in the in their report the trailers would be a big player in this extension of the water hits here with both feet with the right of way we will be with the gas companies going all the way down through there without any major concerns that being said it's it's it's a test it i've based on the information that we have it front of us and as you we you know we could run into some things but we do have experience with both the you know the trained personnel the state and so forth and getting the permits are addressed in the started and when the mobile home park actually comes online and there's a customer the water sewer system and if any point during that interval the legal deal with the local home home part falls through and i know i have one question it might be helpful wouldn't mind going back over a little bit of say because of from future state water sewer requirements hey i'm thinking about going on to the news boards or is this i think it's important to realize that nobody wants people who can't afford things to have to pay for things that they can't order but i think their water water and sewer losers in the town has to realize the rates are going up in the water and sewer users whether th infrastructure that every one of us citizens of this forty proud to say we took this action this fire mentally sens with sewer upgrades whether it's on our system or not once they spent too much money doing that there's a new economic reason for them to provide to our to our system so every month and every construction season we wa t to get the mine where system is what we're construction season where they're dumping a lot of money that money could be spent on our system and then the other reason is that if we don't go down to the beginning of the gateway sooner than later we connect those eating products or those beginning properties to the system so it's kind of twofold the second are not as important because the biggest the biggest goal of this product is to get one hundred forty users from a mobile home park on but every better structured we will have some show of the money being spent if we don't do that with the state routes route to our and we stay in two thousand and eighteen or two thousand and nineteen we need to fix that why are the states not going to say ok after not participate in france and has not available in the project it's no if we don't get a grant i don't like that so all of the pieces of the puzzle have to be in place but it's a chicken and egg situation actors forward with the bongo in the park is on the income survey will help you qualify for negative interest loans which means not having to pay back as much as you for old so there's an benefits of having t decision but i think what happens from here is everybody in this room has really aren't decided how they're going i don't know when this will be broadcast so it will happen tomorrow the decision we may but i just think it's sad if this timeline moved there could be just me could think of going on concurrently and that could actually help this project because they would be ripping up through to all the way through to the the farms we have put in forests the wildlife etc the local history support for local businesses own and the balance of land uses which not only means conservation but means of building  it has a sunset of every five years and we're now at the end of a five year span so we have to renew so we have three basic purposes for ports and we are supposed to be stewards expires in terms of new dollars coming into it we know that there is a reduced capacity to get resources for these kinds of things from other funding agencies if they fed state or private we we  think that the needy clue is the problem the notion that the landowner gets options to do some conservation easements and things such as that which gives them an opportunity for example keep their farm files that money for the evidence prior to spend for the long room whether that was true or not but it was very interesting going through all the files and if i go back to the two thousand find files in which this was said it's not say we couldn't change him you really think it works well i think you raised a very important point what is the cost projects in terms of cost that's correct so in terms of how does the conservation commission review those records and ensure that the intent of the contribution to the project is continued in perpet probably be the neighborhood where those over ten years it's forty thousand dollars which is insignificant when you talk about the price differential yes people who want to see something here and it would be worth going  and we're really asking for the job or not suggesting we have to stop process by the way i think your slides on the website are very nice this whole set up t our budgets for the past six years when i first got here are just over two point seven million is his budget right at three point three million so that six hundred thousand dollars in six years