good we are not mediocre is what you're hoping for i did not hate that that's your win goal so we already knew five years ago michael i did not know five days ago what's really backtrack five years ago with michael bay directing  the first one was pretty decent on the movie the second one they went from trying to make you care i think if i remember correctly from caring about the characters to caring about the transformers themselves the second one seemed to be  gotten and when you put enough money out there they've they've they've got a number of people what i was going to mention though is what's interesting is and i think i assume we can point to marvel for this obviously most movies over time they make a them weave things together i mean that's not uncommon even george lucas wrote treatments for six i mean nine i mean six i mean nine movies back in one nine hundred five when he was first write the first one  it how many issues did transformers run even in the early marvel days a couple hundred issues and that it had real releases and adapting life insurers and seeing what came out of there that was halfway decent and moving out of the film and that's the best thing right now about taking these comic book movies as you're really using everything around you as a treatment for extraordinarily critical people and there's an allegiance and these already built from speaking of fan base book in just under forty four million dollars so that's what gravity has it was very close so what's frightening to me is that it made decent money and people are actually saying this is a good movie which  i think i've said before but you know ridley scott i think is a bit a bit on the overrated side as far as a director goes i was looking at rotten tomatoes our favorite site here and this movie expect park your first place we've got a great movie and a great book and both of them exist independently and we lost world took a lot of the ideas that were left behind from the first book and funnily enough as a last world book but both of those exist pretty well in their own right now the book is good i think they're both very good that's that's the only time i really struggle to say which one is better the book or the movie other than that i really usually  walking through neighborhoods and eating dogs and stuff i was like all right you're distracted but i think those are both excellent pieces that mean otherwise you got to pick up a crummy book or a not so great book and make it into a great film  find a book that isn't as great and make it a great movie the right people are always going to compare and it's never going to be as good amazing it is films are and i go back and watch them and i'm like they're shocking in some respects i think two thousand want is as boring as it gets oh gosh terrible movie is terrible and a clockwork orange is so it's in your face it's so bizarre out there but i feel like i know we've talked about gladiator in those movies more and even blade runner and and some of these ridley scott films that are considered these classics that i feel like they're just long and somewhat boring i mean i think alien is fantastic him i don't know so i think the movies especially suffer from being part product of their time in a lot of times you've got a film that looks great the first time through and then twenty years later looks especially comparison to what's going on now doesn't work as well when i say a lot of times but like star wars is your candle to hold things to where it existed at the edge of it and didn't try to do much outside of what it could do and i'm talking you know the original not revised fifty three thousand times version just little things like you know putting everything that was computer graphics out in space see eliminate that outer black line you don't see it and then they tried to do things that in retrospect look different versions of it i think dave barry wrote a treatment of it right that's and then that even was made into a musical right dave barry book version of peter pan or the look that i'm looking up i've got no object out sorry i'm getting the way i