deliberations was that they would have the instructions while he just recited to them and some exhibits in their possession and if they thought i would be hopeful to review improve them they would be available for the judge then went on to say that whether the jurors did so  during their deliberations in this case so essentially the courts will the jury they can do whatever they want with the law on the other when they went back to deliberate this last remark by the court is especially  can't recall anything in the packet of instructions that we routinely give the tells them they have to look at the instructions from they have to look at the exhibits he would like me on that as to whether there's something in the opening instruction what is it  you're not to even expect me to say i command you to read the instructions to look at all the exhibits that's not the province of the judge to tell the jury that they're there for the jury to consider everybody knows that gave the jury the impression that they didn't have to do with that whether or not they carefully consider the case and follow their responsibility and you know i think that the courts the influence of the court's comments is most evident by the fact that the jury reserve verdict very quickly in this case and that even considering the fact that this was a complicated trial of multiple  witnesses a complex fact pattern and it took place over a couple of days even heard the juries you review all the evidence presented read through the written instructions as they are supposed to do takes longer what would kind of timeframe do you put on the deliberations of the jury could be that the strength of the evidence had just as much impact  as this where there was a lot of evidence to consider multiple witnesses and it wasn't a clear cut case of fact pattern it would this would suggest let me ask you this on your first point dealing with the prosecutor's argument i believe during the opening phase of closing argument were the exhibits is up to you he never said whether how you deliberate is up to you the judge was specifically referring to inspection of the physical exhibits and written cassie's of the jury instructions not to the general jury's general deliberate and reach a verdict i think justice jim and you were alluding to a point that i own important as well there's no law that says a jurors have to personally inspect physical exhibit during their deliberation is the judge said it was up to two sentences for mr strunk a very experienced criminal defense attorney he really came with the point home from the jury when he said mr ramos doesn't have to present any evidence mr ramos doesn't have to testify he doesn't have to tell you where he was five or six years ago he does not have to get on the stand they the state have to prove him guilty with their witnesses the judge correctly instructed the jury on the reason without the standard of proof and he told the jurors that nothing he said could be construed as from personal and i don't think that there was evidence included two eye witnesses who testified at trial and described the murders and who made for unequivocal benefit patients of the defendant to drive lineups into it open court one of the witnesses positively identified the code this defendant gave a complete confession in which he directed the police to the location and eventual recovery of the murder weapon there wasn't on the contrary evidence because defendant chose not to testify or present when this is which was his right but i submit argument he can only do so by showing the comment we deny the fair trial and threaten the integrity of that you should the judicial process again when discussing the law of accountability the prosecutor in the first closing area that an instruction that arguments are not evidence would be sufficient to cure any resulting prejudice also the remark was not directed at the defendant personally it was a generic reference made during an entirely proper closing argument in which the prosecutor that will be taken under advisement thank you very much