sure our first item is the great implication to fund a natural resources inventory project development of associated bottles with john or let's talk about th to gether we would bring them back to you to review before they would go on to be submitted to the proposals would cover would fund a natural resource inventory basically assessing wildlife habitat wetlands and natural communities rear endangered species habitat in the town at which is something that the planning commission has requested in the process of developing sort of ordinances to protect e myself right preston early view for going to brad elliott have been i guess delegated by by you in the planning commission to sit on the a multi talented committee of neighboring towns to to work with the regional planning commission and others to to figure out how to sort of raise the bar on natural resource resources the connection in our collective talents and this project has come up a number of towns identify the need for inventory and for in the for technical assistance to help develop bylaws that can help protect those those values so right now the towns are still trying to figure out what who's in who's out what specific elements they might want in their proposal and each town could pick and choose the things that best meets their needs each town would pay their share of any match costs or any volunteer requirements and we would work to share some of the load as far as outreach and education some good as curious is this  life which when it's too coarse scale towns that have put richmond in most many other towns have in their town plans a statement saying we want to protect natural resources more protect wildlife we want to clean some general statements and when they try to apply it to a specific property where the hold up the supreme court wants very specific identification of features of cations and specifically what  do you want those and then to have town to go through the process of vetting the act getting public by and going through your planning commission and then the like before saying well we're been working together to explore the things we can do both regulatory and on regulatory to address some of those needs and this these two great opportunities that come up that would be a big help t for richmond be the planning commission has i think i think they may have already sent to letter saying they would like to see this go through the conservation commission has discussed it and they think they've been tory in particular it would help with better directing the conservation reserve fund monies they also feel that the conservation reserve fund can be used as a match for the rich main component of the grant if we yes it can be moved up and down the hierarchy some people may not want to release information about their property and others would be very welcome to have those things change and you know the fish and wildlife part is particularly interested  going as a team to the east coast grant program with the r b c there's much less of one to the state is just more bureaucratic and not a great additional ability to get m still able to start the project this fall it would run the inventory piece would run till next fall really winter with some bits of with some outreach  leverage some additional time from them recent help for lp so we could actually you know do something more than just a basic letter of the time sink in and say well we've done average but really try to find ways to engage the public in this year now they very well from looking at the computer screen what type of habitat whether it's a force of wetland versus a partially wet forest versus in upland and they start again if i think things in color signatures and then they start saying ok we're not if we can figure out what this this money because many of these viewers would like to and the property recently passed into the ownership of the four sisters and they were willing to sell the property but before they sell the property they would like to protect as much as possible we have to work with them to know keeping it in farming so that you know for generations to come people will be able to you know have this beautiful piece of land there in farming  is an affordability mechanism basically so that we're not only keeping the land available open it available for farming but also making it affordable for farmers in the future so the mechanism there is that if they want to sell it to a family member or a bona fide farmer buyer s definition they make more than their money from farming that we have the rights to to purchase the farm but if if not we would have the right to purchase the farm and sell it to you know for residential properties so how does that work with with conservation right so it too would be included in the land that's conserved certainly the appraiser looking at the valuation of their conservation easement did not put a high value on high development value on the leg that's in the flood plain yet there are other restrictions including that option to purchase their cultural value which will limit the sale of that flood plain and there's limits like selling topsoil you  just would have the ability to approve a subdivision but really it would need to be a proposal that would have two viable farm operations on the resulting pieces and i guess answer pretty quickly because i think they'll be hard here to have to buy a  operations but fifty years in the future maybe farming has changed such that there is a viable far be operation enable them one of the one part of the property and another one on the other to the you right there and that's separate from the concert so that is part of so let me be clear there so that on the south side of route two there is a four acre farm with a complex that currently has the board of agricultural manmade disaster the current emphasis is to try to make sure that everybody can take care of themselves for three more days before they get outside help so it's sort of the worst case scenario but they want to change expectations of people because after katrina where people were complaining that they couldn't get help fast enough well you know situation was such that it was very difficult to get help to that location so in following up on that because  very interested in following up with us because we were the pilot i think we're one of only two in the country right with those one more one more place that they've offered this class but they really want to follow us so in talking about things that have to during i read where we did have a very good initial response and people certainly volunteered there certainly were a lot more things that could have been done especially in the follow up in following people on helping everybody through things and there are a number of different scenarios where we would have not necessarily the need for mass care so much because i think being a rural community a lot of people have woodstoves and stuff and people could shelter in place but there certainly would be some neighborhoods where  vulnerable where we might have to provide mascara feeding or just station supplies because if with the river coming down the middle when the river gets cut off as it did before jonesville in here then you have little segments and so there's ways you can prepare mission supplies so that people have things and then just having all of the procedures in place that would help somebody like jeff who hasn't lived here all his life for me linda certainly you know knows everybody and knows who to call in this kind of things but we also need to have scenarios for what if we have no power what if we have like ice storm our snowstorm we have no power how do we identify a vulnerable populations how do we make sure that everybody's taking care of how do we allocate our resources so part of this what we're recommending as a result of this class that we took is that you could appoint a committee to develop a management plan already i know that years ago tom the vet told me he had a list of everybody who was like on ventilators or anybody who can't move without power all those kind of vulnerable people that would be good for the available for things like if we need to make sure we have a command post that has power i don't know how many generators we have in town or if we have a place with a generator eve or at the fire fire station or here this is a place so i don't know if this would be the command center but there needs to be a command center where things can can't happen from i know we have a shelter location up at the middle school the red cross has activated that for about i'm not what sure of the status of that  in terms of our relationship with the red cross there are some agreements that you can enter into beforehand so that you know sort of like the fire department has what do you call the mutual aid mutual aid because sometimes we might it might be helpful maybe bolton will have to meet and they don't have any place in town that they'll need to use us in the morning to use them in the same thing with huntington i think all these communities together can be prepared sort of like the wildlife natural resources survey where you're looking at watersheds really looking at we all live along with him ski river we're all vulnerable so this is just a good good practice good procedure and that's what we're putting before you only suggesting that you create this i recently resigned my position of fimo so i will be leaving town so i'm here most for say to work for mot emergency management for a long time is also in transit i'm sure there are other people interested i talked to francis churchill briefly but i'm not sure if he's available right now i suggest that we put out information on the television for a porch for him and maybe put some posters up around town or something and try to get this going by this fall this is an outreach component to it asking everybody to have their own emergency plans for their families having their emergency supplies having one of things they suggest is that you have a phone number somebody who doesn't live here so that if your family separated you all call this person who lives out there and they coordinate have tried to call each other because the lines of the old or so each family needs to have their own plan each neighborhood needs to have a plan sort of like when we do the green up day where starting october you might be able to have some kind of little update by town meeting today but i would think you need at least six months or more depending on how detailed you get with the scenarios i think one of the things once you've got the members together they could come up with a timeline i think it should be less than a year there's other things that need to be done too and there are some grand opportunities that need to be pursued identified pursued so if we have gaps in our assets that we don't have adequate buildings with generators to support a command center or a shelter you know we need to say we need to look for those grand opportunities and maybe write those grants so there's a lot of different things and the charge for the committee needs to be refined to but if you can get people together than the first task they can do is define where their goals you know the number of scenarios are going to pursue with the kinds of materials and the police that come to you and say this is what we think we will we need to do it this is the timeline i think we need to do it that would be my suggestion do you have any  but it was really clear we were lucky in some ways if if it had been with another foot of water we would have been a fundamentally different situation or ability to cope with the very it would been very  difficult for us to cope and i came away from that experience convinced that we need something like this do you think that there's also a need though for a standing emergency response committee and you see this planning committee transitioning to that are being something that will separate from the i don't know i think that would be a good idea but i don't know that the people who do the planning would want to continue on there i mean i think that could be one of the of issue or challenge because not having all this experience and all these years here i'm just trying to understand how they enormity of it now when you talk to people  from the twenty seven flood and they said this was the worst since twenty seven on twenty seven the house next to mary christie camp's house was flooded up to the second story for three days to me that forest than what we had where the water came up it went down i mean there certainly was a lot of damage but the water came up and it went down within twenty four hours i was told remember mary o'neill told me or tom o'neil who lived in that house at that time was a very small boy during that flood there the priest went down the north side of the thing and gave everybody last rites because they had no way of knowing if anybody was alive there now and his mother was pregnant with twins town i mean the most i mean we didn't have to open a shelter at all for this event everybody had places to go and people to do so more importantly is to teach people how to shelter in place and how to make room for  things and maybe distribute supplies to people or something but most of this was really a call to us yeah i mean and that to me i think that would be a big benefit so i know when i work with d p a you know the national bell you know the people after the flood like within zoning and getting the zoning process so they care right away people don't want to have to wait six months to to repair so that people can do it because i thought we were response was really good our recovery wasn't as good because there wasn't follow through for for weeks and things that you almost need to have a committee that can help you mean it's very traumatizing and traumatized people don't always function as well as they could and there's so much information coming down it's been good to have people who can help guide them through that and pick checking in and making sure that they're ok and helping to break down some of the barriers to hold them because you know they get time here it may head against the board and the town was holding an amount of money that had been associated with the summer food service program that was going to fall to the people who had been running a program to feed children summertime and so what we've got here is a summary of what's happened over the last four years at the bar you see the first year we had forty nine campers and world we had an average daily attendance of thirty four and this year we had seventy five children old and we had average daily attendance of sixty we served four thousand two hundred fifty four meals during the month of july second this is breakfast and lunch two meals a day so we are in a summer food service program which is a program of the united states department of agriculture to try to sure that children who generally receive free me do slouches during the school year get something through but we're also much more  we feed all the children in every role in their daycare which is how we get children to us we also feed all the children who attend any program that sponsored by chip in the school district so that's the summer intervention kids altogether who are registered for the meal part of the program and then we had to i could sit seventy five year old in our daycare we operate in the same mark weeks as the summer school because we have this great partnership with the school district so that our kids can run buses and then we operate out of the school where her summer programs are happening and so that we can access all the other children and feed them at the same time so it's at richmond elementary school who is passionate about food and passionate about children are passionate about the park school opportunities we also now miss russell who is just incredible person who is able to pull together all of these counselors that have created community and really caring community it's sixteen days of camp that's a very very intensive time so i just want to go over a few highlights but we're lucky that we have excellent excellent one of the reasons that we're here tonight is not just to review what we do but to thank you and may not know it but you are one of our partners because you provide storage for our camp stuff and over the course of the military and directly below realize we have to do wonderful crafts the big the big attraction this year was the cardboard arcade people donated boxes of paper to some people remember on the front porch or asking for paper too and so he said what are you going to do with kids a chance to be creative we have a great grant from coffee roasters to buy food from local farms and we have a little bit of that money left over so we actually set up a little farmer's market and have the kids go shop at the farmer's market the things home so they like that we did the learning kitchen which is a program from hunger free for montgomery actually taught had fourteen kids learning how to cook and then you give them bags to take home and they cook at home from their parents so that was very exciting we are very happy to be part of the economic engine of this town we bought as much stuff as we could locally and through the richmond market through the home supply we bought from a local pharmacy bought from the monitor those like four or five different farms we bought from so that was really cool we employ all the local people the furthest one away it's we have somebody from heinsberg that we employ so we are in employing mostly teens we also have a teen program an intern program we had fifteen kids ages twelve to sixteen participating at so they get a leadership training and this year we have noticed we had twenty six students from  socks so we had twenty six fifty eighth graders so there's a huge need for a program for that age group so we're very happy with the progress that we've made we're very grateful for the support that we get from the community and we're grateful for the richmond the rate of children who get free and reduced lunch is about twenty two twenty three percent and honey can it's twenty seven percent all to over fifty percent so then from k through eight in the three towns that's up to over two hundred eighty children that's a lot so we reach over half of them we also bring pizza to huntington on fridays during that time that's another forty children there so we'd like to do more in terms of food chance for just a better life and we give them a chance to be earth creative and to feel loved and we create that developmental asset of the community for them so they see  that the teens that we have understand their role models the whole year round and they love their kids they see their kids from year to year a lot of the people that work for us support for us for two three four years so if we see these kids growing up at least this was the first year that we actually turned some introduce your socket on my i actually think america robinson and i was in turn here for about six weeks this summer and i basically did i audit of the company for the last eighteen takeaway so when i was here i looked at all the checks that were written in the last eighteen months to look for mistakes are made the things i was looking for for bill is that we're paying taxes on  s that weren't documented correctly if their wife were not purchase orders attached to invoices that were over a thousand dollars to see if we double paid on certain bills look for and also look for late charges so with all these checks that i found that that probably not documented in the spreadsheets and so each individual check that i had a problem was on a spreadsheet and the reason for the reason it things but basically one way we did that is by using town credit cards or have these companies fill out the tax exemption form so we're not we're not tax cut we end up with all the over a thousand dollars a lot of these a lot of the invoices were not did not have her store's attached and it just is poorly documented and can easily lead to a mistake and checks should only be written off of invoices and not statements sometimes companies will send us a statement and we would write a check based on what the statement says but these to be consistent and would be better to always pay off of the invoices we receive balance forwards and so we get checks from following months and not and i have already paid for them and had to get by to look for the look for mistakes and make sure not to pay twice  they also though payments also occurred when when we did pay off even voice and office statement pay the same amount and companies have the record of our dole payments a lot of times but they put it in a account and it sits there unless we tell them to do something about that so they will sit on credit until we tell them to plot apply it to an invoice and a lot of times will forget about that we can also call and ask for cash back which was a couple couple times i received cash back because it was sitting and in a town that we didn't want credit for we also incredible late charges i'm a lot of this was due to the water sewer account because they where they meet only wants them on and they weren't they weren't paying these bills and timely manner the bills were being billed are coming once a month they're paying on every every other month and  up to about three hundred fifty dollars just for just for this one company and it was it consistently was a problem with the water sewer so we need to the biggest problem was that we don't a lot of the bills were not being paid in a timely manner and the companies that bill us monthly we were not getting the checks out in time so we're incurring late charges and balance for as would just confuses everything and it makes invoice or if we're not paying for the current charges should be there should be an explanation attached so the waivers basically the way receive bills from companies in a way we pay always ask be consistent to see just where that document documented the companies that we had the biggest problems with are paying their bills or if they were giving us and sufficient documentation which would lead to  generally like to say that it was exhaustive search eric did a very good job getting down to the nitty gritty we came in cold didn't know anything about what we did and how we had to he had a very fresh look about what with our accounts payable similar to anybody else from the public good if somebody came into the office and said i think paying your bills they would have the same outlook as eric did and we've learned a lot in our office about what we need to do to improve things so that we can have a better picture for people when they come in and of any experience of looking at how we pay our bills how how can they understand what we're doing and we've come up with a number of improvements and suggestions for doing a better job with it not only to straighten out  internal accounts payable problems but just to make it clearer for people so that if somebody sat down by themselves and looked at it they'd have a reasonable chance of understanding it since it would get there and thank you eric i think you just great jo see if we don't have any suggestions that we're requesting at this point i mean we do want to provide time for public review and how are you thinking that would go forward well our next meeting september fourth  we could it might be better to see what people's questions are and then maybe try to get her to develop another response to that that's a good rather than just putting out here call to hear what people if there's anything you'd like to see differently or additional information or anything presented just let us know and i will add that we should have a final trial balance this week the auditors are going to come in for field work in september no be concluded at the end of september and we'll  the draft on it hopefully in the early o soon in terms of process this is you're providing this does tonight and then the and then this will be placed on the website as well ok and in that same timeframe but a week before the next right right or c p a has done and provided a number of adjustments and needed to be done since the last time you saw this ok so this is essentially a final version for you thirty six full public safety ok and since everything that's unfair was being recorded in parentheses it appears that if our actual lower looking at thirty four the miscellaneous revenue of two hundred eighty three thousand dollars where we get that page thirty four towards the top two hundred eighty three thousand two hundred  five dollars and in this revenue right well once it's big it's a combination of things that's under other revenues and i think that's part of that is debt and part of it is probably insurance reimbursements reimbursement well we have to is a transfer from it's i'm not sure we're still trying to figure out exactly what that was whether that was a pilot that was received or something was billed right we're still reserving i know that candid contacted them i guess we haven't received we also had a number of emergencies ok so at the end of the year you're right at the end of the fiscal year ten we put money into the rainy day reserve t do we take into consideration think that this was a hike here and if we put more money into the budget for next year to sort of say well it was kind of a hike here we're going to put out a record i'm going to budget what we did the previous year but we're not going to budget as much as we as we expended like i mean we it was also hundred thousand dollars more that's a significant that's a thirty percent increase that's presenting a number of years ago the town agreed to follow a paving schedule or gravel schedule but not only had the roads that were going to be redone but also the capital play and provided for an increasing dollar real here for about five or six years we've been following that plan so it's radek increase in the budget i've asked people to revisit death this year ok i just want to if i mean work if we're going to be behind again this year we're going to be under and we're going to need another transfer from some other necessarily gravel work but he thinks he can purchased the pipe in the road fabric he needs but he might be a little bit over you know in it at the end of the year  i can tell you today you know he's a he's on trial and we haven't we haven't transferred anything to any any of our many water systems on this it happens going over any kind of reserves happens more often than contributing to it and then they get into a situation where they have nothing you know what i would suggest just inflamed in terms of making this useful for the public short cover memo stating what it is you know as you have here tonight and then maybe i'm just i do the other scan through this you know we've sort of been focusing on the big variances and maybe if we if you if you took each item where the variance exceeded twenty five thousand and just a one line of what it is that might answer the majority of the questions that people have you know certainly not all of them but it might be at the the task of following up the list if you could play you know like i  we're no longer do that doing that so we have a slightly advance payment so it's just going to be adjusted out but we're going to pay it once a year if i think i'm this came up at another meeting but it would be really nice to know what our debt looks like what our debt schedule it's what we're paying on and and whatever tires because i think that will help in kind of planning for capital budget also and i'll be giving you all that information i can give you  so that they are at the process of working with the state to finalize their paperwork so that's good news for them we are having you have scheduled a public hearing for your buyout project for the twenty seventh i just wanted to put it back to you all again that if you could provide just like we were discussing earlier people can provide questions ahead of time before hearings or presentations occur i'm able to get the answers for you in writing from whichever agency or might be looking for an answer a question from let's see i want to make sure we could move everything real quick and then get out of here so if you guys have questions if the public out there has questions regarding the if they can e mail the town in this thread or any issue that they might have something they've heard want to verify anything just let's get them out there so that if they need something in writing that can be handed out at the hearing as well and there's there's there's been discussion has fars the state twenty five percent match which one that's coming out of but we've been told and they can put something in writing but be it based on the emails it comes down to when your project goes through which fund they draw from from but they say i have not seen anything ever from the very beginning that the state is not matching that twenty five percent they have two different funds they're using they just don't want to they just don't know which one they're going to use for you until your project is and so that's where we're at with that side of things here that has anybody's placed in the chute which means the federal government has the preliminary approval occurred at the state level the projects got passed to the federal government the federal government has now approved a certain number of projects and i placed them in the chute which means that they've allocated the funding for the state for the state to figure out all the paperwork necessary to start these projects underway so i don't think there  and you can correct me if you've heard anything different i don't think there's been one check issued yet and i think when that first by a check occurs it's going to make state like new so what's the precedence for that other than that there's been actually the state has the twenty five percent match is sitting in accounts that state funds that might have come from hud to get into the state coffers but the there as far as the federal government money goes the state doesn't do a drawing down on that seventy five percent until it's ready to disperse it because they don't want to have any interest earned issues to have to deal with so when you're talking millions of dollars that adds up interest adds a so they don't actually pull the money from the federal government this is what i've been explained until they're actually ready to disperse it maybe i mean i know just to get from them the money hasn't gotten to the state and it's still sitting at the federal level i mean i know in the water world the e p a is telling us your money you better ask for that money because the climate in congress right now they just they want to it hasn't been spent they know they don't want to extend it and so this is a totally different ok totally different situation it's it's you can you've done the buyouts you've approved the money is going because the buyouts are going to homeowners it's not going to a project that's in the future to be done that is m es going to upgrade our water system this is funds that have been set aside from income from which potentially comes from the insurance pool from f i p their place paid into so it's a little bit different but it's good to know a little many different perspectives what i've been told i'm not an expert in this have been but over the past year i sure felt like it in this band so i don't want to take any more which i'm sure i just if there are more questions that you all have because it's been and if you want the answers and you want me to go after those agencies that you might need something from the clocks picking and next month is going to be fast leap you know it's going to approach quickly and will we don't go yet is that my intention was to  have fortunately totally committed all day tomorrow putting into the evening with zoning meeting but if we were to get you questions on well see if i'm if i'm responsible for generating a lot of bone it would be later in the day  wednesday but if you had some availability tomorrow during the day to you know do we get together on wednesday morning even getting to get them to you earlier in the day on wednesday is that another sign this in or you can get me the questions the sooner i can get you the answers and we be prepared for monday night's meeting but we've been on monday night's meeting was going to occur for almost a month so if we get to the last minute i'll be answering questions in public and might not have documentation available for the public or for you dislike or i mean i have a box i carry in the car the paperwork is accumulating but to have the paper at the right time to ok and and that was should be interpreted as an invitation to the public to descend any questions that you might have and actually just just in case there's people listening who are wondering what that we're talking about there is a single property in the town of richmond which is eligible for fema by there was a application that was brought to the select board in november my request was december and since december  forty her court the letter of intent had to be and i think it was at the waterbury hearing that we attended peterson buyouts have it in by a certain day and this is the property what's new address twenty six fourteen it's the property of twenty six fourteen it is the brick house with two small structures it's on wanting curve land it has been preliminarily approved by the state government sent on to the federal government and it's on the edge the quote from the federal government was it's on the edge of being placed in the shu but there is one issue that is not a deal breaker that it's being worked out between the federal government the state government as far as the m mitigation plan or the historical structure so that's the last thing that we are waiting and where that is we are currently waiting for the state of vermont historical  if we want this to be productive please  farmer's market so that sort of the flooring schedule during the warm weather months i believe carefully janet also sent an email to you with a couple of objections be well done i mean it just didn't you know there in their letter here it wasn't like and you know we've already applied to health department where we've gone through all the other appropriate channels it was a good point it was hey can we set up shop in the volunteer green occasionally like i mean our approval could say you know of course contingent upon bright you know satisfying all of the you know requirements of the health department what have you i think i mean your point well taken but i think it's for me the concern is as jeff said is this setting a precedent that we need to be concerned about i'm not aware that there are mobile food vendors beating down our doors to you know sort of shopping in the box or green but but well i mean i actually take the point that the points that kathleen made enter e mail more than that press the necessarily the you know in the proposed any regs about fast food like are we going to consider this fast food you know i mean the temporary structures  is problematic touched on that also and she does reference to the approval for a hot dog cart for property on river road within the commercial zoning district  and let's see what else here and that and that with an agricultural residential zoning district and within the rural three zoning districts so that's the current proposed districts that the restrictions on the car are probably a little bit different than a restaurant with that said we do sit a i applied there i think that that this is a great idea just no i don't know that we're in a position that we're ready to say yes because i think that we have a lot of questions and really the answer  including setting up like we did with one vendor that can only be wine and the difference is with vacuum is that it's it's organized by the firms market and it's one vendor as part of  man and so would it be an option for future years to have this current set up at the farmer's market i don't know little note i just you know i wondered if they linked up with baseball and if they don't sell hotdogs at the concession stand if they work with the baseball league to work out a deal where they work for the little league would go to restaurants and they would you know do other stuff in town and so you know keeping an eye in so i think he said well maybe they could try a couple of weekends not every weekend search up and come in fourth of july and come and you know maybe two weekends and month or whatever and i'm not sure whatever happened with i think they were well there was a provision of the words against business your commercial enterprises that but i mean we've had a petition from a resident sort of for the next step do we want to them to come in and talk to us about this orders or think before we do that because we don't want to settle for more disappointment i think we should check this ordinance and see if it's even because we would have to just turn in if we want to change this morning before we even went there you know so maybe that's a can put there's you know opens up some options maybe on the commercial block that people don't have to account for a certain number of parking spaces just go on faith that they're going to find this maybe kind of go  think kind of our plan with the group is to come back this fall with some numbers and maybe identify some funding sources looking into transportation seventy five hundred dollars that we were responsible for and we figured on a payback of what's five to eight years or something like that so this will reduce the payback substantially so i think you projected in three years that given our current expenditures for factor services is we recoup our investment in three years and so the end of three years if we decided that it wasn't working out for us we wouldn't really be out a substantial amount of money and three years is really not that much time in the grand scheme of things so i think neal was more comfortable if we could get the match reduced because then it reduces our our commitment for lack of better term to the project while still committing to a new job while still committing you know and i think it that it would give us time you know for the first thirty three years at least while we're still in our payback period of seeing it this is something that is really going to work for us given it is a smaller piece of equipment and given that we are going to have to try to share that we are going to be sharing it with other folks you know see how much we really are going to use it you know i mean there's going to be a learning curve and then three years may be the appropriate amount of time for it to be a learning curve and then after then we decide if we're going to continue on i mean we have to renew different emma every year every year regardless so but after the three years because we can kind then make a decision as to like right on the table that was sand cost yeah those i think will still remain the same so that's an annual cost and that's that and those and that's a projected so this is this is kind of the costs were projected from both i think the manufacturer and experience from other towns on the in this type of equipment and i feel like this is also going to be revisited every year it is yeah so is that a cost per year worth the cost  sure and it's really based on so the sixty seven fifty is kind of a you have the projected cost to maintain the piece of equipment and then the twenty four gallons per hour was based on kind of an estimated amount of time that each time is going to use it now if everybody ends up doubling the amount of time that they use it then in theory would be twelve dollars an hour because you still just need the sixty seven fifty right yeah i think over the yeah it's not each town needs to do sixty seven fifty but it's that's the whole m responded so the person are going to go back to the drawing board and try to be solicited or more clear just personal fashion to try to get some interest and move forward with that i think it's a very doable project  not not for a long time this is just a quick this is just sort of it and let it start preservation conversations but i'm assuming this building is considered a historic building correct we i mean i guess i'm just thinking like it's crumbling that it's going to crumble and capping it's not going to fix it well it really slows down the weather in process because you know you know having more easter working going to and from the inside disturb people may not but it probably isn't going to that visible and the other question is do we get the same deal with iran gas installation now is that just because they do special things for fire departments yes  chocks that's right they made the same offer to the rescue schools ok all that sounds great you know we have a town policy in place but tracking of of energy costs and this would be before we do that would be great time to have more on the last year's expenditures for both of those buildings so that we have some kind of i mean it won't it will be whether just a passenger rail stock established in palmer which will wake passenger service from boston to this area directly and also this area to points west home they don't have a they don't have a passenger station there so people don't get off there's no exchanges of it it's not a hub it's just like a rail yard essentially where you change tracks so that and i think he's asking  because we're a point north that would benefit from it being because they're trying to come in from boston into that rail yard to change tracks and then in theory they could get off get on them for monetary and come back up here we could also go down to like new i mean it's just it's just a it's a hub that doesn't right now have an interconnection and people just sit there and twiddle their thumbs and smell diesel fuel waiting for the waiting for the trains to clear which are all freight trains so you can then get on to the to the track to go points out without getting off not even go to bathroom boston and then take the t into boston that's that's what there is and same way people in boston can then come across into palmer and then go points north and i think it also brings up things about the colleges and it would reduce  road traffic i mean i know when i wrote it down to connecticut is there were a lot of folks there a lot of kids that did get off of the u mass at the you must stop and at the brattleboro stop because there was kamin there's a couple of colleges in the area so it's it is it is frequented by students and you know if they're going to come in it they could come up here and ski or something without driving that type of thing that i dokey at this point i'd like to talk about some of the future meetings that are coming up tomorrow night at seven o'clock here in this room will have a first public hearing what it's like to work on the proposed amendments subdivision regulations if anybody has any suggested changes they want me to try to work up as an example before i let you know i've already worked up an example change that would eliminate the so called sort of evening he would have to have a second public hearing on those changes and also give the planning commission time to comment on those changes i've talked about that and with crystal who believe that that second public hearing should be on september tenth which is on monday also i warned the meeting for september tenth to consider the issue of whether these should be voted on australian ballot at the november election which that was also stated priority as one word so that meeting will be september tenth also where a meeting of the voters which is who are shows up responds to to the correct and one more thing if you decide that more changes are necessary or that you're not prepared to move forward right now then you would miss the deadline for the november election be scheduling for another time agenda coming up in september the other is a new subdivision on jericho road its peak farm subdivision part of what they plan to do is develop a walking path between joe an avenue with a new street there under see if they have really come into our objections or even if they're aware of it to make them aware of it so you may hear something about that it's all going to also come for you to be able to accept that that people want a rotating basis from the ones who are commissioned would be in charge of coming in and reviewing the warrants and making recommendations to the rest of the commission as to whether we should approve them or not instead of sort of all five of us having to approve them or go through them because often our water and sewer meetings are quick and that's what's holding us up conversely i dislike board meeting we're busy talking about other things and we don't have the time to look through it so if if only two people were responsible for reviewing it and it rotates not saying to people then it might it might be more efficient process so it's just what i view it is that we don't change anything about lend if anybody anybody else here they stop the questions but it's really so it's just ok we trust you let's you know and then it'll be then the next person's job to do it so yeah that's what i'm did the work and thirty days and so you know we have we have the payments or we have only one invoice so you know it's whether we feel comfortable i mean it wasn't on the agenda  it's it but it's going to be another two weeks before we hear three three two weeks three weeks before we can pay to again so i guess the question is is that do we feel comfortable approving it without it kind of being an agenda item and without a person harold weighing in on th i mean i was comfortable the last meeting because it was more because it was on the agenda i don't necessarily know how i feel right now because it's not on the agenda i know we need to pay em but but i also my make sure that we're that we're doing the appropriate we're going through the