good evening we're thrilled to have you here and november's sixteen on the way to thanksgiving in america it's a holiday that we often just chemists skip over and when we go to most stores that's nine clearance and i think part of thanksgiving is on clearance and of course christmas is everywhere and the idea to be grateful kind of gets run over but hopefully i'm out of around here hopefully around here we can realize that we are here because of many people who have given so much to make this an amazing community and it is up to us to kid to do that tradition and to make it even better so we're really glad that you're here tonight to continue that tradition and building into this into the city and to continue making it the best it can be thankful that all of us can be here tonight so we have an attack could you started with the roll call please things that we have done for decades and that is an opening prayer led by our council member byrd and then we'll have a pledge of allegiance so please join us by standing if you're able thank you for this day and we thank you as we go into the season of thanksgiving we remember what our forefathers and that we have a spirit of thanksgiving as we in this time of presidential election i just pray that collectively we can be thankful for the freedoms that we have as a united states of america the greatest country in the world and on the republican side in the democratic side that we could come together as one nation under you and so as we gather today to do the business of the city we just ask for your wisdom your in and to represent the people of this community in jesus name amen next we are going to cover what's called the consented genda and that is a list of items that have already in the pipeline to be approved by city council at with one motion if however in the list of that vienna reads in a minute there is an item there that you came particularly to address and to talk to with counsel then at the end of the reading of those items i will open it up for someone from the audience to come to the podium give us your name address and which thing you would like taken off consent and then that item will be handled in its appropriate sequence when we go through the meeting so could you please read through the consent list item for c to accept and file executed oaths of office from various boards and commissions twelve a one to approve a budget transfer in the amount of two hundred forty five thousand to purchase a new bucket from to cover the bid price of two hundred thirty one thousand four hundred two and contingencies and to declare the existing bucket truck sixty seven two thousand and four sterling as surplus item twelve you two to approve a contract with turbine technology services corporation to replace the turbine in generator on unit nine for an amount of eighty thousand six hundred seventy and a contract contingency of eight thousand and sixty seven approve a transfer per contingency to capital in the amount of eighty eight thousand seven hundred thirty seven into authorized the mayor and deputy clerk to sign item twelve do you want to refer claims filed against the city to the city's insurance carrier in city attorney for consideration item twelve ethe report one and item seventeen eight to accept in place on first reading a proposed ordinance amendments to section twenty two dash three of ordinance fourteen ninety two a law to allow dogs i'm we should all city parks except for matt urban sports and recreation complex maplewood use complex in the digraph nature center with the final rank to be held on december seventh two thousand and sixteen regular council meeting item twelve efore point one to approve the hauen allocation of the burn justice assistance grant in the amount of forty two thousand to support the three officer positions for drug and gain enforcement efforts assigned to the we met program item twelve eve five point one two approved in adjustment to the public safety police services budget in the amount twenty five thousand six hundred one to allow for the media purchase of the new touch current life scheme and fingerprint system item twelve east six point two two adopt a resolution approving the mers employee service credit to purchase first sergeant james d luda as requested and prison had item twelve east six point three two approving agreement with the nowhere control team group for the citywide management organizational structure and efficiency study with the exclusion of the holland board of public works and public safety department in them out of seventy one thousand five hundred with set amount to be funded from the general fund and to authorize the mayor and deputy clerk to sign s agreement subject to approval as to form by the city attorney and item twelve e's six point four two previous recommended by the tower area called meeting council the policy and community enhanced mint program as previously reviewed by coun on november ninth of two thousand and sixteen thank you ana so as promised is there an item in that list that you would like to address and it sequence in the meeting and don't want it approved as one led by council seeing no one is there any item that council would like to remove from consent member yes time if i may i'd like to remove them help and well if you could come up to the podium and i'll come there to shore up things and to keep it working and time has taken its toll and then royalties home and barn has really needed attention and so we  really glad that carolina mark was from parks and record chair of that committee has really taken it upon herself to make a difference that we are not going to forget what has been symbolized by that home and that property and the council quite a while ago voted to buy that entire block to preserve that heritage and it is amazing when you go to that home you can feel like you are back in the eighteen hundreds it's all forestry and only have the civil war muster out there the reactors are thrilled with an authentic piece of property and paragraph e that makes them feel like they're really reenacting in a real space and authentic place and so we're really glad that over time caroline has been working to garner donations and help and our parks department has supported with labor in order to refurbish the interior of the house and exteriors of the house and today we are celebrating the curtains that we did not and once we got the beautiful wallpaper in there then the windows were just kind of hanging there and we knew from pictures way back then that there had been curtains and we didn't have the right thing so  carolina worked on that and researched the picture and you guys went to field fabrics and found equivalent fabric and family you actually sold the curtains right got to stay by the mike you saw the curtains and made it it's just beautiful in there it just is the perfect look and we'll be seeing the pictures of julia julianna as a highly giulia playing the piano with curtains on the windows and shoreline or the few digs is the financial organization that stepped up in order to make those curtains possible so nothing happens easily or quickly and it's not only one person that takes a team hutchinson haps the city of holland michigan recognizes with appreciation for a contribution to preserve and restore the historic farmhouse from eight hundred seventy two in the barns from eight hundred sixty five and this is for sure a line orthopedics and that is from the city of holland michigan recognizes with appreciation for our contribution to preserve and restore the historic farmhouse eight hundred seventy two and the barns from   the brains behind everything there is carolina marquess and we want to hear from her about where we are in this whole process of restoring the farm and barns because we really have to also address those vines as time goes by a hundred fifty years old it's you know it shows after a while thank you ok it's been my privilege to serve on the parks and recreation commission and i think we're so yes we have a video here that you can kind of look at weil why don't you do that while i'm talking that's the picture of ben as he was mustered in to the twenty fifth michigan infantry over here they did not want to see their dreams fritter away with the american states seceding he was very concerned about what was going to happen to our nation think if that w happen today if the south carolina and alabama and all the states were seceding from the nation and he said you really must go and fight for the union and so he sent his two sons benjamin  to fight with the twenty fifth infantry then came back and built the federal tea farm but his brother lost his arm but he what he served in the michigan senate and was also a very successful man but i just wanted to thank the parks department because andy canyon has been very helpful in a variety of projects that we've had at the farm and he's the director of the parks department also steve's weep is the park superintendent and they have helped us so much with a lot of the projects and we finally got some funds to do these projects at the farm mayor de boer has been so supportive and also city manager cotton has helped us out and we have a variety of parks in our city we take them for granted but they're wonderful and beautiful and to urban parks that you might think about centennial park across the street and that's i think one of the only victoria parks in michigan that's quite pure cowan park the waterfront park is a wonderful beautiful park our parks crew is working all the time they're planting their moeen near weaving they're raking all those things we take for granted the dutch love their flowers love their parks and we do a wonderful job adding to the quality of life with our parks windmill island which is the only park of its kind in the country because no one else has another one when male and we're the only people that were granted that wonderful windmill and then we come master plan has evolved and changed over the years but basically the city resident said we want to keep it natural we want to keep it as it was a farm in back and when royalty bought it he bought that property in eight hundred forty seven when he found it holland and preserved it and gave it to his son when ben came back from the war and then decided he wanted to be a farmer and so he built the barns painting and wallpapering the house and really it's my passion so i when we found that we had some money to work on the inside of the of the house i ask family if she would help because she has been my lifelong friend and she had a wonderful sense of style and color and both the house live in the historic district so she has a little fancy our little house a farmhouse and so we looked at this picture as you can see it on the monitor there and as we can we began to look oh sorry as we began to look at this picture we realize that it told us a lot about what we should be doing to restore and preserve the farmhouse this piano was believe it or not stored in the barn for about sixty years and i said to my husband who puts a piano in the barn and he said well when you live on a farm you don't have any place to put things you put it in the barn so fortunately one of the descendants of reverend von royalty the great great great granddaughter t was here for the very first civil war muster and she said oh my goodness we have to get that piano out of the barn so she paid to have the case restored and when she comes back to town we will be having another presentation for her donation to help put this piano back in we think this is julie a band starter probably around eight hundred ninety s playing the piano  we looked at this picture and here we're big eight foot ceiling floor to ceiling windows and we said well that is something that we need to do how do you think we can this and then we said i can make those and so we began working on that and she did indeed and i will show you in a minute what that looks like we also have this chair stored in the basement of the armory  the hauen museum has a number of pieces of furniture that belong to the to the home and so we hope to get all of those put back into the home and the goal is to open the house for our next van royalty  farm civil war muster it's nice and green and i will show you what  try to hang near the mike there carolina so people at home can listen this is the wallpaper that we picked out to go in the living room and as would have it repco light heard about this and they said oh yes we will donate this wall and it's not really ornate but it gives you the feel of the one thousand nine hundred and what the house might have looked like back in the day and then this is a small window but this is what the curtains will look like  when we get them all put up now the reason they're not up now is that we are going to reste or the wood floors that are in there and so we need to get that project done once the floors are done then we can bring the furniture back so i just wanted to say what the goal is and what we're trying to do at the farm digraph nature center has been using that property for a lot of their education they have been taking children out there to teach them all about nature and show them the wild things that live out there the little critters and the birds and the ducks the from the deer and so on  that's been going on for a long time the venture altie farm civil war muster we started eight years ago and we have been educating our children about the civil war and how important it was and what it was exactly like to be in the camps without the soldiers lived in to be in the camps that the ladies lived in and so last year we we've just finished our eighth civil war muster it was the third weekend in september and we always try to follow that we we fought the battle of bull run the first man acis and we have a three day event the children come out on friday and they expert they are they go through the camps they see what military life was like and then on saturday and sunday we actually fight the battles and we sit on the sledding hill and then the battle is fought down in the front this year in two thousand and seventeen we're going to be fighting the battle of antietam which was a battle outside sharpsburg maryland and it was a battle in a cornfield so we will be financing a cornfield and we also are going to show them what it was like to you can see what it was like at this venue there was also what they call the sunken road so we're going and he's letting us go out and dig this out the sunken road and then you'll be able to see what it was like that to fight that battle we also have music we have the first volunteer regimental band that plays period music  also have the choir the lake effect choir that sings period music we have kids crafts a lot of activities going on so remember that and the third week in september come and  see the federal tea firm civil war master in two thousand and fifteen we repaired the porch of the farmhouse the floor was deteriorating the posts were deteriorating so we got that done and this year we've painted the bedrooms up stairs we've done we've wallpapered the the living room and dining room and then the outside of the house do you have those pictures we  painted their ideas and it's although it's not a whole lot of difference between when it used to be white still it's just it's just this butter color and there's a lot of nice detail to it and it looks like the house might have looked around the one thousand nine hundred it's so pretty out there now with the trees i think you'll be so surprised to see it on the outside and hopefully next year for our civil war master we'll be able to open the house and have to or through the living room and dining room and maybe include a bedroom as well ok one other thing that i would like to tell you about is that  planted a lot of sugar maples around the house on the hill and those trees are now very big and very old and they are deteriorating so we have had to remove some of the trees some of the trees  fallen down and so we would like to start a program to replace some of those sugar maple trees and tonight i would like to announce that john and sue hu and jack and caroline marquess are donating a tree to replace some of those trees that been planted many years ago there are a lot of holes because it was kind of all around the house and so beautiful but there are many holes and also jack and i are going to plant another tree as well so if there are any of you hollanders out there who would be interested in helping us with our program you can get in touch with the mayor's office or the city manager's office and you could help us fund some of those trees what we're planning on doing i have this beautiful little leather bound book and it's going to be the friends of the royalty and so anybody who makes a donation whether it's a tree or curtains or a floor whatever it is we're going to enter it in this pretty book and then we're going to keep this book in the living room of the farm as you can see there's a pretty tree on it i don't know if it's a maple tree it may be the tree of life but i just thought was kind of appropriate to keep our keep our donations here and so andy and i have been talking about a wish list for the farm there are a few things as i said the trees the wood floors we don't have any storm windows on the on the windows window treatments in the suite and the at the back of the house we might like to restore the kitchen it's now a modern kitchen but it would be nice to restore a two and one thousand hundreds the great barn needs a lot of stabilization and we'd like to restore it we'd like to put classrooms in there and restrooms so that events could take place so finally in conclusion i would just like to read a poem i'm sure you've all come across this poem in high school and college you either memorized it you've heard it you remember it it's called trees by joyce kilmer thousand nine hundred thirteen it was written i think that i shall never see a poem lovely as a tree a tree whose hungry mouth is pressed against the sweet earth glowing breast a tree that looks at god all day and lifts her leafy arms to pray a tree thank you carolina and thank you to everyone who has helped us in so many ways in refurbishing and royalties home as carolina said please be a part of this wonderful movement to make this better and to preserve what has been there for so long and needs a lot of help so we thank everybody that's been involved and great to have trees planted as well  thank you ok we're and to our special order of the day which is a public hearing for the tip or bakery we start with a staff report please  badly finance director to present this report he is most familiar with our brownfield program thank you roger tonight i'm pleased to present information about one of our redevelopment projects that are you going on here in holland and the city of holland's brownfield redevelopment board  met back on october twenty fourth and approved and recommended to council a plan to help redevelop property located on sixteenth street it's an old restaurant building that's there the bakery folks in tonight we have representatives of the family here and they're going to briefly talk about this but basically this project will involve the rehabilitation of an existing building they're going an addition for the construction of a bakery they're going to move their bakery operations over to this property from the north side the overall investment is expected to be about one point five million dollars they're going to be working on that here pretty quick and finish by next year the council tonight at upon completion of this public hearing will be asked to approve resolution that will authorize the approval of this plan that allows for tax capture to reimburse the developers in the amount up to one hundred twenty thousand dollars and that will also your resolution will also include approval of a reimbursement agreement that spells out the details of this plan so tonight i would like to introduce the gentlemen that are here there's three sam and mitch de boer here and then john dial as well as here as well and they are here to talk about their project and we have currently outgrown our northside location and have been looking for a spot to expand for a couple of years now and that we finally landed on the sixteenth street property and we like the idea of kind of taking a round rundown area of the city and doing some awesome urban development with you know everything that we do as you can see from the plans phase one would be to build a bigger bakery production space and this big re would include a retail coffee shop environment as well as providing b location local restaurants and any future endeavors after the project we consist of building a restaurant and the vacant green space at the end of the property there and we feel by redeveloping the space  will not only help us but the city of holland by connecting downtown to the seisure village district we would start construction on phase one in early spring of two thousand and seventeen and be completed by the end of the summer of the same year so really just a fabulous place they have they excelled both with their food in with their service is just a terrific experience and it's great that they can bring that experience here to the city of holland so we're looking forward to that i do want to think him bagley and  cotton for their assistance in getting this together and we do appreciate it the brownfield plan and the reimbursement agreement are very straightforward this is all consistent with your policy in terms of the time limit fifteen years and so forth so it really is for reimbursement of cost for as best as abatement and demolition will be some demolition of some structures or rehab of one structure and we'll also have some site preparation expenses the total amount as tim said is one hundred twenty eight thousand so again very very straightforward so we appreciate your consideration of it and happy to answer any questions thank you ok this is open for public comment is there anyone in the audience who would like to speak to this public hearing for the boy bakery everyone's just salivating i guess yeah is ideal i think this is one of the highest trafficked areas in terms of automobile in central district with the exception of maybe sixteenth in river avenue i think you've got a great location here really excited for this to be in the neighborhood and it is one of those developments that is poised to really bring a lot more development of reason a lot of confidence into the neighborhood in my opinion mean the farmers so i think there are quite a few of them in the netherlands but we're really glad to have the same last name anyway and we certainly appreciate all that you do in the quality of what you produce and  people love to come to your establishment simmers so thankful that you decided to come back into the city and now i do a bakery there and that is just a wonderful place as brian said it what a great location right at that and trance to collin park one of the last favorite parks and so near the water and all that is happening with saussure village it should be a real catalyst for all the synergy that's happening already so we've wish you success such success can't wait so am i could you call the roll please tell jacob high thank you now we're moving into the mini your mini mart have another public hearing and we'll have a presentation by mr bagley again thank you thank you madam mayor the next public hearing involves the redevelopment of what's called minute mart two or minute mart east which is the old sam's grocery store located at one fifty four east fifteenth street this project involves invest of approximately four hundred fifty thousand dollars to develop this a new neighborhood convenience store clued in included in that is an upstairs apartment the developer greg hill is here and he's going to speak in a moment but greg is has been involved in the redevelopment of the minute mart in the washington square ia and he has successfully managed to convert that property into a beautiful space in fact i believe eunice wife live upstairs in this project is in another area that is troubled area that needs a lot of investment and it's exciting that he's taking this on this is a smaller project it's involves about the overall reimbursement amount was about twenty two thousand dollars and the council upon completion of this public hearing will be asked to approve a resolution that approves this plan and approves the resident excuse me the reimbursement agreement as well this is consistent with councils these are to try to make a development easier for developers in our area and we've attempted to work with greg in making this happen for him and model in this is the demolition of again trying to another convenience store like we did in washington square we want to take this particular property and give it the same look that we did to build the washington square inside and out it's a pretty run down piece of property  sets and we plan to make it a neighborhood convenience store offering most of the similarities that we do in our current store with some additions because it's larger space or have some more room as he said we're spending about four hundred fifty thousand dollars in the property and that would be inside and out from top to bottom so yes that's pretty much it for your help and a one man urban renewal project worker that's great we appreciate how hard you've worked in washington square it's been a wonderful rebirth of that facility and it's great to have someone with your track record in hard work sacrifice is well past that i'm thank you thank you ok so we're going to open for public comment has anyone come to address this public hearing seeing men will close the public something like this for a long long time and i'm just so grateful that you got the vision you do and what you're going to do there because they think i'm not a real smart business guy but that looks like a can't miss to be based on it's location to the college in you quincy yes i live in the neighborhood as you know i frequent your store a lot it took him a long time to get there i should say we when the old man of my was there we'd go there and it was a rundown store closed down and that washington square pretty much closed down except preddy and i think the art gallery on that side and the two result place but there were stores that came in and out of there that tried to stay open and they couldn't stay sustained and once you came in and it revitalized the neighborhood even though you hadn't opened yet people were excited there was the buzz going around about the minute mark getting ready to open back up i don't remember exactly how long it took but it was about a bout a year something like that but when you came in and you really revitalized that area there's businesses that are new to the area that are growing we have prove merchant airsoft and that is absolutely new to the area that another art store or art gallery opened up there's just been a buzz there sets you've come into the neighborhood and i see the same thing happening over at the new facility that you're going to and  thank you thank you thank you quincy yes wayne yeah just real quick i think this is going to be a great asset for fifteenth and columbia and military as well lot of good memories in that area and motion for this motion to support a move by byrd support supported by birch and the other discussion you know can we have the call the roll please an thank you greg thank your wife more power to area where you now are on to public comment is there anyone who has come this evening to address the council about whatever is on your heart this would be the time you can come up to the podium give us your name and address and you may speak for five minutes the light is green and when there is one minute left it turns yellow and when it turns red your five minutes are up so anyone here to address counsel's welcome to come to the podium at this time sorry not even now six months ago and we create a small startup that was focused around building an underwater drone we were a group of students that were engineering focused and have kind of spent our last four years in the hound area and gain a lot of resources from the people around here and mentorship that's been around here as well and so i met with mayor de boer a couple days ago and we were presented with an award for creativity in developing this and developing this business but we also talked about gratitude and i think that's something that really encapsulates what we've been doing and what we've and why we've been able to do what we've been doing is that i'm very grateful for the resources we've gained chicago was a big big help on the way as well but really it's been an incredible ride to be able to make a company here and you know develop something that's really cool and focused in the area and grown from a space in the area so you can see a few pictures there but that's that's what we've been able to develop and it's it's an underwater drone so i don't know how much anybody knows about drones but they're basically robots that have cameras on them and they fly around only this one is for under the water so we launched a kickstarter campaign back in august and raised about two hundred thousand dollars on that and now we've continued to work full time three of us on turning the business  into turning this idea maybe more into a real business so it's been a wild ride we're definitely very young and so all the mentorship that we've gotten from the area of holland and from grand rapids has been instrumental in helping us get to where we are  and continue to grow as we move forward so i just want to say thank you to everybody that has been of all involved along the way so if people are interested in looking into a fathom one or maybe buying one if they to explore the depths how do they do that sure so you can go right for a website which is just fathom drone dot com we actually do have a sale going on right now we're just taking preorders but we'll give you a hundred dollars off if you preorder now will be delivering next summer so kind of all the money that goes over that we can take in along the way it goes just toward for the development working with a engineering team down in st joseph that is helping us get manufacturing all set up for a larger production runs and you know software integration all kinds of manufacturing needs along the way so dr these underwater drones there are some that have been invented right but they're prohibitively expensive yes quite so typically you'll probably see about twenty thousand dollars and up at the very low end after that it kind of moves into very commercial industrial drones you'd see tethered to a big ship and those are you know hundreds of thousand dollars million million dollars those are more research vessels well we've really done is taken the technology in those big giant research vessels condense it down into something that fits about on a sheet of paper you can tell there's a small camera on the top right picture that's just a small point you camera and so you know it's really taking this really cool technology and putting it in a form that everybody can use  and so the model is six hundred dollars again we're one hundred dollars off five hundred dollars right now but you know it's kind of a new wave in terms of affordability for the experience that you're getting so the money that people would send you now would yeah the ideas basically came from i was i spent summers up north in northern michigan away called dumbwaiter lake louise some i know about it use me as for logging so like a lot of lakes michigan and so really what happened is a lot same time in the wintertime they would stack these giant trees on a horse drawn carriages and pull him across a lake i've always heard rumors that some of those carriages fell through the ice in the middle of the winter and are now stuck at the bottom of the lake my l one hundred eighty feet deep in some places i'm not scuba certified so it's kind of was a whole this came out of an idea to try to explore and experience something in a new way i knew aerial drones were doing it from above and i thought why not try to do it below i think there's a lot of interesting things we heard a lot about history today and that's a really cool thing is just checking out things of the past and and how they imagine how it got there in some ways you know people grow up fantasizing fantasizing about you know jacques cousteau and you know sunken treasure and pirates and all kinds of things but this is kind of a way to put it in a normal person's grasp yeah so whether you're doing real research ari or just curious or you had what was a navy soldier who was wounded and used to do underwater diving can no longer but now he's excited to be able to use one of these right correct giving giving people maybe a renewed sense of freedom in their in their interests yes he was he was injured in a lot of duty and now so he can swim and i think it was an  injury and so he was prohibited from diving so this is kind of our way for him to kind of re experience something he grew up loving went into the military for and then was is now prohibited from doing so  so yeah a lot a lot of cool cases all across really the world that we've talked to yeah that's that's exciting how deep down does this go so this will go down through one hundred fifty feet well so pretty deep a lot deeper than you can hold your breath transfer so what you're actually getting is on your smartphone or tablet if you like that you're getting a live video feed right in your screen as you control it around underwater in a transmitter that high resolution video feed you need to have a wired connection so that goes up to the surface of the water next to a buoy that floats bobs and surface and you connect to that buoy via wife i so that's what will give you your live video feed while you're still not technically connected physically to the drone you still have to have a little bit of a physical connection right so that's actually two fold density is a weird phenomenon so when you're shallow enough it will flow backed up to the surface as you get deeper density the water will be condensed and things  change but that is a two fold reason for the tether that actually connects it to the top side if it does you know battery dies you lose a connection or something goes wrong you could just pull it up by the top of that it's connected to the surface by that whole issue good question oh yeah any other questions but just when you think everybody's had all the ideas they're going to be had here we go that's great danny we really appreciate you coming in and that you have two other guys that are working with you it's kind of like our own little google story here allison and it'll be exciting to see where this goes and and the excitement of you putting together something that hasn't been done before and a scale that's affordable for people and that there are kickstarter people that have responded and there are so many things that can be accessed today for investors that had been available before so it's does revolve around centennial park and alcohol earlier this year staff came to council and had some changes made to section three of section twenty two ten of the city code that relates to consuming possessing serving alcoholic beverages in certain parks it was council's leisure at that time to pick a few parks that were to be determined to not allow alcohol at any event those were  park centennial park was also mentioned however it was inadvertently left off the list when the ordinance was changed so tonight's final reading of this ordinance adds that back to it as well as some tweaks to our policies that also relate to alcohol  being served at at places that's through the clerk's office so i'd be happy to answer any questions you may have any questions for andy passes unanimously thank you after that historic but we're moving on to park hours ordinance amendment final rating and that would be for you to superintendent kenyon correct director kenyon sorry that those hours probably should be increased to not only fall in line with other parks systems throughout west michigan in the area but it just makes sense to do that so we've been talking council meetings for the past month or two about this and what we'd like to do is staff is recommending that the parks be closed from eleven p m to six a m and also include the road ends those are typically found along the lake merritt tower waterfront there's thirteen of those so those would also fall in line with these these park hours so i'd be happy to answer any questions about that as well right anyone have a question or comment nothing good happens after midnight or between eleven and six correct in holland parks yes even you can still walk through you sure can yeah we just are we have this set up so that you cannot just go to the park and be there you now we are moving and to i believe gifts the city managers office is pleased to report the following gifts parks and recreation for the friends of the farm program received a donation in the amount of two hundred  fifty dollars from john and carolyn marcus and john into hutchinson cell press scholarship program received two donations one's a recreation office anonymous for thirty dollars and thirty cents and a website anonymous for ten dollars excuse me south press gallery schip program also received proceeds from the labor day boardwalk breakfast that was held september five two thousand and sixteen in the amount of one thousand eight hundred twelve dollars with from in kind donations from indiana kitchen lowe's fatboy blueberries and escape ministries digraph nature center received two donations from one from sally johns f environmental education program in the amount of one thousand dollars and the other from ryan in care in cotton for the brick and leon improvements in the amount of fifty dollars public safety by your operations received a donation f metalogic of howland in the amount of seven hundred dollars for the purchase of an automatic chest compression device and the police operations received a donation in the amount of two thousand dollars from how a new car dealer supported by byrd all those in favor say aye right opposed same side that carries thank you so much it's amazing the very few lines of generosity and the hearts that are behind moving on to the community enhancement program concept from the service delivery team i believe todd you remove that to do i make a statement or would you like ryan to start writing just give a brief th then also thank you fine thank you madam mayor members of the city council i serve on the service delivery train for the area corning council who is that well that's seven to eleven communities depending upon u most of us are appointed officials there or if it's a township the chief elected official so there has been a concept that we've been meeting for several weeks has put several uses as part of the future search process that was kicked off five years ago and there's been a number of collaborative areas that we've worked on and been successful and the latest is a review of something called a community unhandsome program concept this concept was recommended by our body to  the policy board which adopted it subject to review by the communities that would actually be involved upstairs we talked about to say this quickly about whether all communities is this an all or non e concept and reading the report closely does appear to be inclusive that each one of these communities would need to be part of the city of holland city of zealand filmore township policy township like town township our town ship city township and explain also what it's about in a minute but also i located my notes which i didn't have handy upstairs zealand city has approved at like ten township has approved it fillmore township had it on their agenda last night they were not present this morning at our service delivery team meeting so we do not know whether it was approved township has it on their agenda tomorrow in part township has it on their agenda for december eighth a lso before i explain the whole concept there might be some interest in tabling this tonight so i'm going to give you an abbreviated version and be happy to go back and answer more questions should they rise the basic purpose is to  work together for a calm public purpose to have a positive impact in the area and to enhance regional assets here the regional assets that our team came together everything from capital assets to studies a variety of cultural venues there used to be funding by the city for cultural activities and that changed during the recession to a large extent except for the fireworks i think is the only one that i recall still so would be a funding for up to fifty thousand a year the city share with twelve thousand and should the city wish to proceed forward by turkoman of that you appoint a member to the governing body because anybody would need to set the know it again as we discussed last week in upstairs i think there's still a little bit of unsettled nature to this as we discuss this amongst those of us that cast votes for this so i think there's some time needed to not only going to see what happens but also for a little bit for us individually and collectively do to get our heads around a little bit more as more activity seems to happen outside of see these four walls so those are my thoughts on the matter and this right suggested i do have an interest in postponing this item indefinitely ok is there any other discussion before we leave do something like that i did not make a motion now mike was looking at me as they say was that a motion so i just want to make sure that that's a little foreshadowing of a motion that could to chime in and there is there is this seems to be more heat than it probably should have and i know i'm a component of that is as much as any of the others you may have some reservations about this while seemingly benign effort to encourage regionalism and while i think there's a reason to applaud that effort i think that given the city's interest and think tabling this for now is probably a good idea and making sure that we are looking at regionalism and intentionally not that it's let's just have a win for win say but let's do things that yeah i think we are like a regionalism concept idea but i think this might not be the time to do it either and i think as ryan mentioned five years ago we we kind of said for groups to find their own resources and to try some initiatives we had a whole roomful of people who came to us skinned us for help with asking them for help or matching their kind of thing and we basically said no we want you to go out and s your own many of the groups listed there have done that and i've done a pretty darn good job doing it the holland corral is one that i think of i hear they're advertising on the radio this morning about they're selling d s and they're they're doing a great job i just don't see where we need to spend taxpayer dollars for these particular kinds of things and cherry picking ones that happen to be exciting for certain people that we have to be really careful of that there are many other kinds of needs that we have with within our community for people who are living in poverty or near poverty or they need extra help and i think we have to think about how do we work with some of these other issues before we start giving money to those that probably could fight of other funding so that's all i have to say i would opposed to it ok thank you and any other comments postponing say i oppose same sign that kerry says thank you it's going to involve some our conversation now communications from the city manager the city council and over one hundred more out in the community i believe it was a record number of registrations definitely knows a record number of absentee votes including i think about double the number of a the final plans and financing all that at a later point speaking of financing the civic center bond sale that you authorized is going is moving forward as we spoke in pretty much exactly the same december eighth is the date that is chosen for the negotiated cell it seems favorable from a number of standpoints fifth third was chosen to be the can recall the name of the what they what they're called when they handle the sale but that's the entity that was chosen after competitive process and closing is expected on december twenty first and that deadline that all those dates meet the deadlines of the  to nine point five six million i think roughly nine point eight i think and that's pretty much what we expected with the savings of we expect around two million dollars in interest for the deadline for raking leaves in two  your street is this weekend so we hope the people do not miss that it gets complicated if crews are down and in the leaves are out there so put that on the calendar and enjoy a little bit of exercise the last item is that the street ends have almost all been noted as to where the public property is this is a multi year project out of the five year its parks master plan there's four more remaining and they will be done by the end of this week and this is a project that enables and invites the community to experience the street ends in the water in a way that they maybe didn't know if they were invited to do so  and over time there be improvements made on all of them subject to budgets and your reviews yet there may be some that need to be put on or need to be aware that we're proceeding forward and i look especially  have yet to start dropping are we considering extending is that going to create a problem either that or we're going to have a heck of a spring with a lot of leaves to pick up the best answer to that question is yes we will consider standing but i i hesitate without consultation with the crew and seeing what the weather brings this weekend to make it clear that statement now i should should something change of course will want to put that out there next week i just  need to catch a cold and then i know it was supposed to get a little of the white stuff potentially coming down this weekend but if that this last weekend is we've talked about is when or if this weekend is the final we can put out the snow is going to be there and we're going to believes out there anyway i just like i said it's been a really strange warm fall another we're starting to finally get some some frosty nights they're starting to turn but they're not very fast anyway we are also have a couple proclamations that we wanted to read and one is about small business saturday which is coming up whereas the government of how in michigan celebrates our local small businesses and the contributions they make to our local economy and community according to the united states small business administration there are currently twenty eight million small businesses in america which account for fifty four percent of all united states sales and whereas small businesses provide fifty five percent of all jobs and sixty six percent of all net new jobs since the  seventy s the six hundred thousand plus franchised small businesses in the united states account for forty percent of all retail sales and provide jobs for some eight million people the small business sector in america occupies thirty to fifty percent of all commercial space an estimated twenty to thirty four billion square feet the small business sector is growing rapidly while corporate america has been quote unquote downsizing the rate of small business startups has grown and the rate for small business failures has declined howland michigan supports our local businesses that create jobs build our local economy and preserve our neighborhoods and where is advocacy groups as well as public and private organizations across the country have endorsed the saturday after thanksgiving as small business saturday now therefore i need you to bore mayor of holland michigan to here by proclaiming november twenty sixth twenty sixteen as small business saturday and i urge the residents of our community and communities across the country to support small businesses and merchants and small business saturday and throughout the year so it is really important for us to support those who are invested in our neighborhood and whose money that they make will come back into our into our economy local economy and that's really important and one of the things we wanted to definitely not jump over we had a study session last week wednesday so right before veteran's day we were unable to read this proclamation but we do now want to skip recognizing our veterans whereas by act of congress nov eleventh has been designated as veterans day and whereas america has long stood as a beacon of hope and opportunity few embody that spirit here at home and beyond our borders more than the members of our armed forces and whereas soldiers sailors airmen marines and coast guardsmen are part of an unbroken chain of brave patriots who have served our country with honor and made tremendous sacrifices  that we may live free whereas on veterans day we salute the men and women who have proudly worn the universe uniform of the united states of america and the families who have served alongside them where as we affirm our sacred duty as citizens to express our enduring gratitude both in words and in actions for their service now i therefore need see the burra mayor of the city of holland and i behalf of the city council to hear by proclaim that november eleventh two thousand and sixteen was veterans day and we encourage all residents to recognize the valor and sacrifice of our veterans through appropriate public ceremonies and private prayers and by just word of mouth in thanking them for what they're doing because we wouldn't be having a small business saturday if it weren't for the sacrifice of all those who who came before us so there are so many things going on as we come into the holidays this saturday will be another celebration for the holiday open house you can come downtown i think it's between six and eight and there's a as that's a open house going from store to store and then it eight o'clock there's a tree lighting ceremony over by the p and c bank that's a lot of fun there's a light parade going on tuesday night i think that's at six thirty that begins at the intersection of eight that you can see on the screen so come on out it counsels going to be there with our brand new flo so how exciting is that we're thrilled to have won our float was vandalize quite a while ago and we had gotten the money and the planning together and until now and so we're very excited to have an actual float so come on down and enjoy that and wrap yourself in lights and walk on down bring your dog should be a lot of fun so check the downtown highland site for all the activities that are happening and city of holland we hope to see you out and around in stop in for the mayor's open house at five to six at how many city hall right before we do the center class parade so it's a great time to be out and meeting people and finding old friends and have a hug in the cold and enjoy being a part of this wonderful community we have so much to be thankful for i heard a radio program oh and there's a center class parade there he is right there on the horse how many places have that that's great is that it for my sli yes any other questions there you go and one thing i heard on the radio was about successful people and one of the care qualities that seems to bubble to the top and that is the quality of gratefulness people who are very successful realize those who have built into their success and are willing to say thank you appreciate them and i think that is one of the most attractive qualities a person can have is that they are grateful  and i'm sure we can all names come to mind of people who are always very careful to write a thank you note to say thank you to appreciate something that's done for him for them even if it's a very small thing and so i would hope that in th season of the year especially we would remember those around us that we care about and are grateful for and that the investment that so many others have made into our lives and be willing to thank them so i thank you for being here this evening and i want to make sure i don't go over communications from council members someone have something else they would like to say yes when conference nancy i felt as though i needed at least bring this up today this is been a really tough week for a lot of people the post election kind of thing some people or i five in another people are feeling really really that yes we've had some discussion about that and i don't know the exactly the correct answer on all of this stuff but as a community we need to be supportive of the people who live in our community respect them well many of them are undocumented or they're working to  become citizenship i know that they're really frustrated and as a counselor rosa so that some of this community they have to know that we support people of this community in are going to treat them well and  think we have to see what we can do to make guarantee that thank you wayne had excellent point we it's hard to walk in someone else's moccasins and when one person can be very happy another person very fearful and when expectations are so that and they don't come through it's a devastating feeling and then you have people that may say or do things that are not sensitive or caring and we really want to be a city that treats each other with dignity and respect we are not all going to agree on anything but we do need to treat each other as valuable citizens valuable people whatever your situation and to appreciate people is very important at this time especially yes quincy did you have something now here just agreeing thank you anyone else any other council