control in that case i don't i think that's true but in a case where we're talking about a firearm lack of knowledge about if there's a firearm in a case i think demonstrates that at the very least that in big you it's now illinois the rodriguez and the ninth circuit in both welching and gearing also said that in addition to the reasonable we believe standard of apparent authority if there's no facts that suggest actual authority officers are required at a minimum to make further inquiry they're not permitted to actually inquire further the case didn't participate in that conversation didn't have any recollection of it how do you deal with the argument that when the when the officers was there when the questions about the gun cases sure and i would point out also that it wasn't a question of what's in the case the question was is there a gun in there he said i don't know and when he said sure i think that's similar to did the court and and during where they had explicit don't know if there's a gun in there at the very least officer graham should have asked one more question is that your case is this if george bush will indulge in one final question how's your analysis of that could by the fact that at least as i understand to to grant consent over the entire trailer but not to containers necessarily within their consent given by a long term resident a permanent resident of the premises he lived there for for over a year the area was the living room and that's important the davis case separates kitchen situation if the police were invited into someone's regular residence and a living room the task either the home owner or the permanent resident and the resident of the police saying i see something over there on that relating to what custom would require to say it's a plain view gun case in other words because that's the way i'm looking at it it was all from the point of view of the officers so what i'm wondering is on th some indication that he affirmatively owns it i don't think there's a blanket rule that would cover that you have to look at each individual circumstance of this event a suitcase there was somebody else's name on it obviously there would be no authority to if it's in the house of a homeowner do they have it in a living room is is there like a presumption that they they can speak for i think that in that case those very restricted i think what's important here is the fact that he said that possible said it had always been there and he had been there for a whole year so he's acknowledging the fact that he said basically control over this item the entire time  dispute here this this case that are going to the suppression hearing on the issue of insanity everybody took it for granted that it was a gun case that's why the gun case was never encountered used and evidence because everybody knew what it was and  interested in this case because curious and very cramped quarters populated with with people that they you know don't don't consider necessary their friends with fellow living there and they're interested in disarming the situation and so i can see why they might just you know take the next step of just asking if they can open it but then i think that any chance your question a little better than this i'd like to meet with cases that require garage with some cardboard boxes stored it not a trunk of a car not secreted under somebody's spread in somebody else's bedroom a garage is a common area used by all by all people who own the house or who are living in the house