it's unavoidable for us not to talk about the various threats that's he and fact made to his counsel and to name him a trial judge himself but the first it's also clear from the record of the trial judge that the work the administration of justice and then even if this court does hold that the record is obvious regarding these threats that is just one of the bruce factors there's thirteen of them even apply there's no evidence that he was a violent person he had no prior history of violence offenses there was no evidence that he was in the scheme of risk that the work of there was a security issue in the courtroom none of those shackles could provide mr bassett from trying to flee and and that house i guess it makes sense if he was a violent person if it was a murder trial where there was evidence he was going to try to flee and those cases there's a there's enough there here there's no specific articulation on the record and to even if this were firearms that you know with obvious face then these verbal threats that's just one of them that their team actors and that's that's not enough  defense counsel asked the trial or if you can consult mr bassett about these one true channel and then they go and he goes into chambers and they do so in contrast with this first camera where seven of the eleven jurors were were picked so there is no indication on the record that mr bassett was able to communicate is his impressions of that first panel of the jurors directly to his counsel before counsel retired in chambers with the prosecutor and the judge to his costs as both his only constitutional rights and his u s constitutional rights were violated by this and this is the language is a little different but both both arguments based world out of the same thing second the third panel but there was not that there's no indication in the record that he spoke to defense counsel so basically it's as if mr bassett was not even there for the initial questioning of the first panel because he never got the chance that it's relate defendants threatening a destructive behavior on defendant has threatened everyone who came into contact in this case you threaten a trial judge you threaten the prosecutor and her family you're in defense counsel and spamming you know also trying to intimidate you vic done mailing out wasn't johnson and book and there were other reasons can delineate how long the record at that point the trial judge will be able to go through all the death threats we already know about the fact that the defendant threatened the trial judge would question the jurors in court defense counsel have been communicating with his client about what challenges define i wanted to exercise and then the challenges would be discussed and tumors and this procedure was followed page four seventy one of the record  really settles this issue because it shows that after questioning of the first hand before me in chambers discussions defense counsel talk to define about challenges and also record pages ten sixty six to sixty seven  and his attorney had lengthy discussions about new challenges and discussed every single thing case doesn't apply because the problem in says he's going to talk to mr bassett about these specific challenges joe challenges and or injuries where as after the first one is just it's more more general and regarding her argument that this issue is not reserve talks about again the defendant's right to have an input into a sequential challenges and that's presumed to be prejudicial and we have that here because the record is just not clear about any discussion that