february the twenty second it's two thousand and seventeen they got the year right anyway february twenty second two thousand and seventeen or on a wednesday night will be here for the next sixty minutes on the twenty second of february taking your phone calls at six one seven four eight four two four four three whether you're watching us in belmont you're watching the live stream on belmont media dot org we welcome you and if you are out there in the twitter verse in stead of wanting to call you want to post a comment or a question you can also do it on twitter our twitter handle is at t m c again this is our first show since of course the great comeback the historical comeback in super bowl history it's been seventeen days since that game and we're going to talk about great comebacks in dynasties in the best way that we could do that well before we do that though i have to bring in the guy sitting in the co pilot's chair who sound a little like johnny most tonight but the old historian we're going to talk about dynasties so you get the old guy that's going t back in time and well let you know both those ones that will before you were born knowing mccloughan your voice is actually sounded much better now than it did just a few minutes ago must be that alexa then i'm drinking n h basketball and that's the best the best time of year right now next week we start getting into march madness with and ca basketball and hockey and spring training is going and we start talking about celtics and bruins and their marches towards the playoffs it's a great time of year and we get to bask in the super bowl and super bowl glory until september so it doesn't really get much better than that in my opinion going to get to love being a sports fan in boston you absolutely do and now here's where is the point i was going to make about talking about dynasties and talking about historical comebacks or miracles if you want to call first of all well sort of segue off your point rob talk about march madness talking about women's basketball you talk about dynasties and some congratulations go to the yukon women university connecticut women's basketball team geno auriemma they've now won i think a hundred and one hundred two straight that they broke the century mark for most consecutive wins which would have been a big deal except and because i thought they broke u c l a as record turns out they broke that earlier this decade when they won like ninety in a row ninety game when she had their own rockets they broke their own record so i mean that's one hundred ninety wins right there in two different streaks i mean that's i mean does that what does that say does it say how great yukon is or is a kind of a sorry state of the rest of women's basketball i wan easy to you know get great play is because you don't have as much competition forum but he's consistently year in year out just got the best players in obviously is a great coach because he's done it with many different play is and how many of his players gone on to basketball there's some good competition in unlike the men's side usually you know the competition between the smaller leagues in the large really does closer than you would think it is but this woman's yukon team is just you know really really raise the bar and you know the t eams that how we have talked about and you have the notre dame's in the stanford's is probably five or six good teams but every time they play you call on you don't remember you kind of are coming down to you know a last possession there you know they win all these games pretty handily and you you're sitting there waiting for someone to come in and personally for some of the joys basketball i'd prefer to see a team come in and at least give them a challenge because it it almost makes it a little boring to a point so it will be interesting to see what happens in the chair but that ship has a lot of people thought this was going to be the for this and i mean how hard is even to recruit anymore is just perpetuate itself any talented young woman basketball player you know all he has to do is walk through the door and they want to play at u conn because they're looking at that program look at all those wins all the national championships a chance to to be part of that glory and any young i think i don't think school's player would want to go there and i think his job got a lot easier when pat summitt quit coaching in tennessee i mean there was a lot of competition i mean she was the standard bearer of women of color was asked ball she created a a following when women's college basketball in the tennessee program for years was phenomenal and i think that now that she's gone it made his job a little easier but once you get their reputation in the in the college sport no matter what college sport it is because you look at you know john kalahari with kentucky and you know ever since he left you massive anywhere he's gone outside of what he went to the new jersey nets but outside of that he's always been able to recruit  have you know a tough already left talk route to the area right and yeah before he left after those that was once you get that reputation in college sports you're you know you're golden no matter whether it be in basketball or football or even hockey or baseball it's always you know the same top couple teams every year because players want to go somewhere where they can either win or make a big payday at the end of the day and you go to the places that are going to give you that best opportunity but again even with kalahari i mean he's not out there you know he's kentucky teams aren't winning ninety games in i mean most of the play is that go to you call and play for three four years right i mean it's not like he's recruiting year in year out i mean he is but not to the point that  dynasty but before we do that i want to this is the other tie and obviously the patriots are dynastic and the way they won this last super bowl was miraculous well thirty seven years ago today february twenty second one nine hundred eighty probably one of the play a really good st louis cardinals team and when they just looked in four games right so it's the same thing but it's amazing to think of that so long ago but that's still one of the greatest sports moments in the history of our whole country do you believe in miracles yes but there we know right out there there is the perfect segue do you believe in miracles a seventeen days ago i mean the patriots found themselves down in the third quarter twenty eight to three to the atlanta falcons by the way i mean you know how lucky are we to be pat i'm sorry no one else wants to talk about this on talk radio because it's a boring subject but i'm going to do it because you know literally it's it's amazing i mean you know winning four super bowls over the course of the century has been amazing and it's almost like well how can they top themselves they're playing the atlanta falcons that's not going to be an exciting game right it's the falcons and you know a you think about that the way they won the last super bowl with malcolm butler's you know amazing interception the last play of the game and you know it's like can you top this ok well let's spot it laid out a twenty eight three lead in the third quarter and we're going to make the biggest comeback in super bowl history again i want to remind you in the first fifty super bowls the largest comeback ever made to win a super bowl ten points it was done three times including by game to win a game and he's been able to pull it off so when you see that you can pull it off at any time but still i mean the way that whole game unfolded is just one of the the more amazing sports moment i've ever seen in my life two minutes and thirty seconds left in the third quarter and then down by twenty five i mean there was a whole lot of people that had a lot of hope i'm sorry there were a lot of fans that watched and weren't going to work at all you know shut it off but i'm sure there were a lot of people that were two minutes and thirty seconds of the third quarter thought that they were going to win that game and if they did i'll show you that all right i had myself mentally prepared to turn off that t v right when the government is running and go and go to bed and i was i put myself in that state because i was like then i'll be able to go to bed and i'll deal with it fine and i just said now i can't do it because if i do that i'm going to miss the greatest comeback and had to be flashbacks to the eighty six super bowl i mean it was it was pretty much in line with that of the patriots go against the bears and you know the falcons were basically doing everything right the patriots couldn't patriots couldn't get it they were getting in their own way as that is that game went on they gave us a lot of opportunities early to take the lead and sort of get the game on their side and they just couldn't figure it out and we weren't thinking this is we were watching it but there were kind hints i guess that a comeback not assembly of twenty five points down was was what's going to happen because even you know forget about the super bowl the fifty games the biggest comeback being ten points how about in the modern era football going back like you know like nine hundred sixty  the largest comeback made it's been thirty two i mean this is like the fourth largest comeback in the history of football i mean since one thousand nine hundred sixty at least anyway since they were recording records but you know the one thing the patriots maybe had going for spike the fact they fell behind twenty  one nothing twenty one three to have twenty three in the third quarter you know like you said there rob you know they they couldn't get out of their way a little bit i mean they were moving the ball in that first half but you know what garrett blunt fumbles and then they're moving the ball again deep in atlanta territory and brady thr  yeah i mean you know they kept shooting themselves in the foot yeah you know you know and you know even the fact it lance a fairy first of thirteen teams in super bowl history to run back an interception for a touchdown and not win the game first twelve teams all victorious  know atlanta when they got let's face it when they threw that you know one break through that pick six that first of all you know you're watching the replays of that it looked like he could have seen the defender like he had a perfect they showed a few from behind brady and scott going how did he miss that defender and you know they run it in for the you know for into the ground and they were they were running the text they they watched that game from seattle earlier on the season where they were the patriots let me in the right giants and right before they they were executing the plan perfectly they just got away from it when the patriots adjust atlanta couldn't readjust get back on track and then everything just unraveled from there of in some miraculous fashion and i member was watching that for seven again all i can think it was the giants in the super bowl and they just repeatedly brady smash them bang we couldn't stop him we couldn't stop atlanta and i'm sitting there they were getting pressure on brain and i'm sitting there going can this team do this for the whole game i said i don't know i'm like i know the giants did it but defense really can't do anything and then the defense came in and they were they were very impressive in that first half and they when they got the job done i thought actually even in the first half the patriots defense was just that impressive they just didn't have the opportunity and they were put into some real bad situations where you know the momentum was swinging in but i thought both defenses played really well in that game even with the way the score dictated at the end you know i mean they only gave up fourteen points in the first half right i mean the defense yeah  here thinking even as as that drive went so right everything went right on that's what they did and then we still screwed up by them i was thinking that halfway through the season that he might bring someone in for competition because he just wasn't consistent all year but as you know he did turn it around many super bowl i mean there are other we have all been like three in four points when you could breathe through easily yeah right exactly you know if you get it goes to overtime we finally have it over time well that was that was the green thing too because we had them on the heels and then we won the toss yeah and the all the time just the hear slater call but you know yeah exactly well you know even for the overtime let's go to let's go back to the that third and fourth quarter to you know they get the you know they score they get to twenty nine going into the fourth quarter you know i look at your dan quinn boy you know well actually i'm also looking at the fact here's d m k when it was the defensive coordinator for seattle two years ago and they see ox led twenty four fourteen go into the fourth quarter of that game and you know brady stats are very pedestrian in the last two super bowls against d and quinn who's coaching on the other side quarterback rating around seventy seven in you know brady's completing about every two thirds of his throws but in the fourth quarter and you know you factor the overtime to brady but tween the seattle in atlanta  the thing the first three quarters seattle and out scored the pats fifty two twenty three and then in the fourth quarter it overtime of those two super bowls patriots and tom brady out score the seahawks and falcons thirty nine to nothing the amazing thing is because i mean the pitches should have because if you look at the stats is said that the defense wasn't that good and the reason they won most of the games goes the office was so good so i mean if atlanta is counting on the divas to win the game they're going to be a problem  so we should about score them like that what they were hoping is that they would score more points so the us that was that was the whole thing right you know as far as off and simply they weren't they weren't going to that game figure not defense is going to help the patriots right you know we have to score fifty if they school forty eight you know you know what but the patriots d you know stepped up when they had to but then obviously we're probably going to talk about the falcons made a lot of mistakes and that's what teams when they play the patriots that know you know did running the ball instead of passing the ball teams all of a sudden go against their game play and they out think it's common sense to go against common sense and then if and then the patriots just there are able to jump jump on it and they get  always get seem to always get their way somehow and it's just amazing how that happens you have the was it limp is game plan not to warco and not to go on the dry and i mean i think that was the game right and i don't need the game play so i don't really think they've gone away from the game right the this is another weird stat i ended up you know i watched the game several times when they ran it right you know that week after a thank you n f l network but you know i was dissecting a lot as you know and it struck me as i was going back look at this it lana you know you talk about the patriots defense playing well in that game plan ahead three hundred forty four yards a total oftens it felt like to me a lot of those came on like first down but even more than first down atlanta had ten offensive possessions in the game on the first play of each of their receiver there gabriel those were all like on the very first plays of drives the other thirty six plays and again the number of often supplies that they had they only had forty six of a game so the first ten on the first drives one hundred seventy one york the other thirty six hundred  seventy three total yards that's an average of less than five yards a play so the patriots defense after that first play and the falcons office would explode on that on the drive they'd like all of a sudden just they would buckle down for down and yes actually i mean and the other thing that won for eight on third down i mean if you go one freight on third down you're not winning a lot of football games you need to make those conversions but had a huge drive the disc right all those routes and going against them right but i mean that just shows the patriots obviously the patriots defense stepped up and made some you know bad plays whether the play calling or drawing some penalties i mean one point towards the end of that first half they could call for what was it three consecutive defensive holdings against the patriots that's i think what was a drive where brady thr the pick six so they got they got away with it but then later in the game after the julio jones catch you get sacked and then have the other penalty that bring you back that gets you out of you know that get them out of field arranged so they just didn't make smart plays as they got late in the downs whether it be and that was you that caused by the patriots who had one of their best games of the season bringing the defense a pressure i mean i remember watching the seattle game back at the halfway point the season the big gripe was peterson get any any pressure on russell wilson the whole game and you know if the patriots are going to win anything if their defense kicker pressure they had the best i thought they had the best pressure on matt ryan that they had on any quarterback all season long and that that played a role in them being able to come back and win the game well i think a lot of that was later in the think the whole game came down to when they were up by a lintas gone down and all again do is kick a field goal and pretty much the game's out of reach because that means we need to get a touchdown a two point conversion get in on side kick and they're still going to kick a field goal that's three points was so huge and first he had the sack and then you the holding call which took him out of field goal range and that was the game i mean you're right it's the game because that three points i think when it sunk oh i don't think they could have done everything they needed to at that point to win yeah you look at that you look at that atlanta drive and well right i mean they got down oh yeah did they stop it like they were in five hundred to pin them back right thirty nine yards that's the big first play of the drive thirty nine yards and then later on in that drive when you get to another first down it was oh wow oh yeah ok first intensive freeman rand left ok don't think of a different dr your own i think was the dr before where the prior dr got like nine yards on first down in the pitcher to push them back on second and third to where they had to punt but on this last drive here they are again it's ok so yeah julio jones makes that amazing so first down freeman lost a yard he runs left they lose yards second eleven ryan gets sacked trey flowers and you talk about the pressure they got and what a game you know what your flowers had at that game too you know that super bowl so then the patriots called a time out then it was the third down and twenty three after after that sack ryan threw the the short pass to sunu but then they called the holding penalty and that totally took them out of field goal range to the point where they had the line and that in the picture to get the ball back with three and a half to go all  eight instead of eleven you're right howie that that whole sequence right there i mean all they had to do they could have run twice you know i don't freeman lost a yard on the first play at the twenty two yard line but even if you lost like another yard in a third yard you were still talking like a forty three yar know a lot of people have talked about it but the patriots get the ball back obviously they drive up the field and they swear the touchdown they get the two point conversion to tie the game up but they started out driving our nine you're right like they were way they were pinned deep and they moved up the field and they were able to score that touchdown without ever using one of their their two timeouts if they had any right rimini work which is amazing because if they miss that two point conversion they were set up perfectly to at least get the ball back one more time and still have a chance to get back in and so they executed on that flawlessly to get to that point which are just amazing but what is the percentage of two point conversion is made the n f l this year you know the actual i don't know what the league percentage was i know for a fact that the patriots and again still convert them and can we talk about coaching for a moment here please if i am the atlanta falcons if i'm dan quinn and i'm going to study ok well how am i going to defend the patriots on two point plays she is there are two point play they like to run you just say they only try to all yeah right all right so what do you got to go on about other years ago there was you know they always do that in short yardage situation how do they do that a lot of brady do when the little fly in will lend a thing i mean ready to defend that play really serious there and then on top of that like you said now the patriots the you know you figure at that point well that's their to point arsenal right but now they've got to get another one and you know here here here they you know what are they go the two point conversion the patriots come out haven't done it all year and they say aren't going to do it right now and just you know they always have something in their bag of tricks ready to go for when they need it yeah i just just so many things were against them well and how about on that drive and i know we've got that we've got the picture of this why don't we well have our our crack staff in the control room bring it up on that tying touchdown drive how about this play you talked earlier about the catch and all those great catches against the patriots finally won in our favor how  mean i'm getting excited all over again but it's like it's unfathomable how they were able to you know and i think when that happened i remember getting up and going finally one go on our way we got one second of ones that didn't go their way so you just take you just take that point in the game too i mean you know that whole fourth quarter but once they're down twenty eight you know nine twenty eight twelve whatever i mean there's no margin for error every single break has to go their way catches like that converting on their third downs having it having getting the sacks to no goal range so they can i don't put the game away i mean every little thing had to go the patriots way at that point zero margin for error and yet it all did i mean that's just amazing i mean that catch by by edelman who is now third all time in postseason catches as you pointed out how so they get one more playoff game next year though exulted that is i mean there's just the whole i think that whole sequence at that point too with the the x the the sac in everything i think that goes to inexperience you know whereas i think everything was overwhelming at that point because i mean you know what brady would have thrown the ball would get rid of right you know you're not going out you don't hold onto the ball or you know you just that was just not bein  counter that by saying well why how come ryan is not ready to ok if it's from the blindside what is he going to read to make sure they were calling to you know you know in that situation you should be dropping back seven or eight steps you should be you know quickly get the ball out doing what tom brady was you know was you know he's playing on a bum shoulder that day too he tackles marshawn lynch of the one yard line when it looked like lynch was going to barreling for the winning touchdown you know so that doesn't happen and then that's the strips of ryan they gave the patriots the ball deep because again they're running out of time in this game if they had to march freestone well get to some of the free agency very well i said some of getting paid i didn't say where you know but you just talk about you know what back to brady i mean the call you know well you know you talked about how it seemed like things were speeding up and all of a sudden late it was kind of feeling the the pressure i know there's people like to talk about that certain part of your body that tightens up and we won't we won't get so graphic here even though we probably could because it's public access but i won't so when you read that disclaimer right yeah oh yeah right yes the views expressed here but did what did michael jordan or larry bird do in the fourth quarter of a game when they were down by ten points they say give me the ball i'm going to do it what did david ortiz do when it come up in the batters box in the ninth inning you know down three runs with the bases lawrie just goes up there it slows down for you tom brady is done this may not have been the super bowl but he's played the scenario many times he knows what he needs to do to get the job done and he did what any great in any sport does he steps up his game and his game is better than anyone else's in he's able to knock it down and i think and i think that his calmness is what makes the whole team i mean if he's frantic and run then off and him off you know at that point you know you just go as in suicide no guys we could do this you know we just need to get to one play at a time and you know and his whole you know just the way he is probably gets everyone else relaxed and then they do what they have to do not to mention he's doing all this in age thirty nine is the second oldest quarterback of all time to win a super bowl only peyton manning who did it last year was older and we all know peyton manning didn't really win that super bowl for the broncos it was their d fifty's and i would have thought it was george bland any of that n f l chippy chips than that you're talking about and is it still just still baffles me because i remember the first ten years of my childhood obviously you guys are a tad older than myself but the first ten years of my childhood i don't even think i really even knew who the patriots were from the first ten years of my childhood you know they were they were never on t v they were you know you just have a sold out right you massaro you know my you know even my dad the biggest you know huge football fan would never hardly even talk about the cincinnati bengals of the n f l or somebody you know it just was just amazing well and you can kind of trace this back i mean you know we we've mentioned this before on some of our anniversary shows the very same month that time off for sports talk at the belmont cable airways was the exact same month robert kraft purchased the new england patriots and save the franchise for moving to st louis but also that it all started the genesis of it all started there i mean you know kraft has brought the patriots to eight super bowls the patriots is a franchise  brady with five super bowl ring rings themselves as head coach and quarterback nobody's ever done that period i just i just even remember when the patriots made the playoffs for the first time with bledsoe and when they played the browns and everyone was so excited just to stuff line and a nice in you know probably slightly better than peyton manning last year but you know a lot of people would argue east and just didn't mess up i mean he you know they kept the short conservative passes and they had a credible running game  didn't he kept brady because you know what a loser but thank goodness for thank you for all of that happening it's just you know it really is incredible you know just even getting back to the super bowl though and in the overtime and just all the other plays you know the guy we kind of you know we mentioned briefly there james white i had some friends telling me james white should have been the m v p of the super bowl you know first of all i'm sorry no it was brady like we just been talking about brady engineer those comebacks james white they had a great game seven super bowl record fourteen receptions that's incredible he also set scoring twenty points which is never been done great and you know what i'm he got i guess eventually got his m v p truck or something if i know brady even said james white deserved it but i'm sorry you know twelve get i get one voted for that just wanted to see the face when he had a hand in the trophy oh yeah let's get to that that fun thing and how about just you know here's that picture again years that image brady with the super bowl trophy look at that i mean just look at the look at the look at his face the emotions  know as we've come to find out too i guess you know it's been emotionally or for brady not just because of the suspension you know we find out you know in the days leading up you know his mother has been dealing with cancer for the better part of eighteen months and you know at first they were just saying illness but then you finally find out during the game you know so you know he's going through all of that obviously you know the first four games we rehashed all of that stuff before you know and then you know how you know and then that chorus of boos that came up with the commissioner you know you could see that you were saying and so he ended you know he hands get back to the patriots but just from that perspective do you think the fans being able to boo you know the commissioner during that ceremony was that full closure because to me i still think that the only closure comes if he comes back to foxboro for the opening game of the next season is never going to go they're going to  people for some really some just about well but but i think that you know i'm all over i don't want to hear about it anymore to tell you the truth but that just my personal opinion i mean it was great when the fans booed by i remember when gary  to give the bruins the stanley cup you know in two thousand and eleven that was one of the better boos i ever heard from an opposing crowd in vancouver but you know i think it was great to have that moment and these moments of i think he will probably be a stadium in september and hopefully the one you referenced earlier against the giants and how they were beating up brady and they prevented the patriots from that undefeated michael straight in you know what these last two super bowls to me i didn't think it was going to ever happen but i think they've actually the sting now of that that super bowl from nine years ago and the chance for football immortality to me i don't feel it now anymore and i fight because you know what they've won five super bowls they're in the conversation brady's one five and i don't what else ever had that was would have been history it could never have been beat it could only have been tied true if that happened that's like saying it's just like every time they showed the world series the ball's about how about  know you kind of assistant jobs you know here's the thing i mean going into that super bowl you know you're looking at high powered off and you're thinking yourself will check in the rest of the cooking stuff and what's the game plan how they got to slow down atlanta and you couldn't help but think back a little bit to the you know the win over  they were the greatest show on turf and you held them to seventeen points maybe they need to do something similar and that's what belichick must've been thinking but then you know you look at this defense and this patriots defense compared to the one for that and so without a one defense is really good die a more physical good hit and they could punish and the rules in a lot of different angles were a lot different it made it the you know this patriots offense you know because the rules are different but also maybe the nature of the players themselves are just not as physical i mean it's just you know so they were going to do something different so instead of bel you know dialing up that super bowl for experience he goes back to when he was an assistant or the defensive coordinator with the giants goes back to super bowl twenty five buffalo bills new york giants when in that game you know the giants how do they beat the buffalo bills how they beat jim well that's that was the first of the four but the way they did it was they kept the ball out of their hands the giants held the ball for forty minutes of that game they won by one point and it took scott norwood to shank a kick at the end for any of that to happen so even though the giants played that perfect game they almost still lost anyway you know again so belichick goes back how my going to beat the atlanta falcons high powered off its all keep the ball out of matt ryan stance peaches have the ball for over forty minutes the falcons had it for twenty twenty three and a half and so again the time of possession actually i believe the giants time of possession in that window for buffalo twenty six years ago was like forty minutes and thirty three seconds and patriots forty minutes and thirty one seconds and that's how they did it the defense did play well but the atlanta defense got totally both teams in that game use the at least seven receivers each but if you look at atlanta four of those receivers had two catchers or less if you look at the patriots everyone was everyone had six or more catches for the receivers accept have three so everybody was involved in catching the ball so tom used every one available to him out in the field which is you know use chemical use where you gotta be up typical top yeah shared around by the way the meaningless amendola hurt you know he's hurt or the good portion of the second half of the season but he comes back for the playoffs he makes a living catches in the super bowl and he's not making the most glamorous you know a lot of them ashore though but he makes big little plays gap when he replacement but now he always makes big plays he's you don't you don't really remember him at all during the game but when it comes down to crunch time for some reason the ball's always getting in his hands and he doesn't usually get the winning play but he'll make the play to help set  seattle super bowl he didn't get the go ahead touchdown he got the one that got a close in the super bowl he got the one that got him to within eight points and then he scored the game tying to pointer to get into overtime but none of the seven so fist can be the right exactly yeah that's it that's a great i don't want to get even in the even super bowl two years ago butler made the cats but brown is the one that stopped the guy from doing the robin the pick that left him open to making an assumption yeah he doesn't stop the guy from pick and butler but doesn't make the cats so you have browner right yeah i'm going to you know you're going to all sorts of things and go on the games inside the gas right and again we all bring this back to you know coaching and stuff we you know again it you know we talk just bring it back to bell a coaches in a year where you didn't have your hall of fame quarterback for the first four games and you know he made it work with a low engine coby percent you want to game you want to game by shut out with your third string quarterback i mean you know and then just the fact that you know know making all the right calls in that super bowl and dan quinn you know just like you know when he was defensive coordinator of the seahawks two years earlier just can't seem to find a way you know to slow slow brady down i mean it's just a question to show we can rule that no matter who is a quarterback or not i don't know i say you go with the coach and also that coach happens to be g m and he helped bring a lot of these players into i don't know i think i think you always professional sports as a player said have the right coach he's not going to i mean football is different from the other sports you know a basketball you can bring three stars together and throw any joe schmo coach out there and they should be able to win but football you do you do need the coaching but i don't know i think you need the about which one we want to put on top of them all was this just because of the historic comeback it's the best of the five i mean i still think you know if you can argue the first one to seven i mean two thousand and one is my favorite because i don't think i don't think they were such but i don't see the point and i don't think a lot of us thought so and that you know i thought that was still the most probably i mean it's pretty close that's one and this one was he's the last one you know coming back against seattle the way they did in the way that game ended and then and then this game you know coming back from twenty five down it's just show on february twenty second personally i don't think the celtics are going to pull off the big deal that everybody you know that maybe a lot of fans want to see them see them do i think that's i don't think there's a big deal out there well they maybe they can get injured bogut but i certainly wouldn't give up a time to get out it's not get celtics men that year and oh if you have to give up all your assets and only you're only going to get one player out of all those assets not worth it you need to be able to split your assets and have to get two players because if you get one player you're still not be in the cleveland cavaliers you're still not be in the golden state warriors you have a good team right now you have the possibility of a number one draft pick you wait and see where those balls bounce you're not winning at n b a championship this year so once you know where that draft picks go in with the nets pick then you come in and decide hey what can we do for moves teams are thinking a little differently in the off season than they are in the at this time of year see a free agency to play with and then maybe some weaker coaches to play with the pending on you when you get for a draft pick so i personally don't want the celtics to mortgage the farm just for one player if you can get two players from two in two different deals fine you go ahead and do that before one play are not enough for me right now you wait till the off season attack at the summer that especially if the guy's not locked up for four or five i mean just treat trade away you know potentially if number one pick in the draft for going to walk after a year well no no no you're not going to trade that pick for a rental guy i mean but what if you can trade a lower pick or something or a pick next tell the draft probably i think you know i actually i'm a proponent of trading even bradley because the play their best basketball the season without him in the lineup so that in my mind makes him one of the assets maybe you would you could give up with but well and that's something to think about  has was very outspoken and he was very intense and resume had kicks he had veterans to keep in mind but i would have taken i would have taken de marcus cousins in a heartbeat no matter his demeanor but and people are mad but there's no guarantee that even if the celtics made an offer that he would a major because the king said they turned down two better offers to trade him to new orleans so you don't even know if it would have ever even happened anyways because that's just the poor management and ownership out in sacramento and maybe they just want to stick him with a bad next month i think for sure will david ortiz be back on the team i hope not go well thank you how he is always thank you thanks to the crew great job by the kreutz and i want to thank all of them our director julie land  victoria back there i think there might even be some some other folks new members coming aboard perhaps might still be look at on so we want to thank all of you for watching we'll see you next month continue to enjoy the patriots win and the coming spring until then good night