was subject to a judgment of well over four hundred million dollars the exposure runs into the billions of dollars and the of teles in the case have avoided any statement as to whether this case is affirmed on appeal whether we will be of the nicaraguan legal system which have been well documented by the state department and others compel the conclusion that any judgment that would be rendered in nicaragua would be unenforceable in the united states we have also sought in that confine a  those individuals in this case the district court dismissed the complaint solely on the basis of lack of personal jurisdiction and that's a judgment obviously subject to this court's the noble review we urge to grounds for  those efforts were completely turned back we have had judgments of over a quarter of a million dollars in the cases that are at issue here and finish i mean the fact is that those judgments maybe proper judgments but that doesn't have anything to do with the question of whether you come here to enforce judgments mean ited states in light of our efforts to oxidize about that right which they've not taken us up on that would be one thing in fact they may have left representation to that effect in the district court in this court they haven't said anything like that they say that whether or not we place that we may tell the nicaraguan courts we don't want to be in nicaragua we are prepared to submit to the united states courts jurisdiction and something in fact we attempted to do to no effect in the garage we still get judgments and when that given that  given it's clear statements we believe it is appropriate to conclude that a little girl who seeks to avail itself of the benefits of that law and file suit in taking advantage of the considerable we believe unconstitutional under the united states laws if we so choose to exercise our limited rights and access and submit themselves to jurisdiction here so that's a due process basis on which we believe that we are entitled to proceed against the full thousand or so plain in addition that with respect to those the entire group of defendants we do have a group of over four hundred that who chose to litigate in the late adult case they were sued by go in that specific jurisdiction slides into the consent issue somehow get some of the opinions and all we are saying is the the general full blown minimal contacts the sort of generalized doing business that generalized reaching out him posing a burden nicaraguan i don't think there's that really an interpretation issue at all that is the law plainly says we must subject ourselves to the referenced the civil law remedies that existed in its decision back then and there have been decisions which shouldn't have been lawsuits filed under the civil law not under law three sixty four so they had other options in a ollie argue constantin fact it's course question about whether the saying goes over into minimum contacts we'd raise the fact that there were no minimum contacts in this case and in the reply brief the defendant is clearly an absolutely  right there's only one problem with that argument that's not what the statute says the statute on its face to referring to companies the language of the statute is companies that within ninety days of being given notice of this law by thane at the service of process hundred channels have not the posited the sum required must subject themselves unconditionally to the jurisdiction of the courts of the united states this by its terms only applies to those who are defendants they must subject themselves to the jurisdiction of the united states these plaintiffs have chosen to sue nicaragua they go one step further and they say you know if we say we're coming to the united states it's exclusive you can stay nicaragua there's nothing in the statute that comes close to this now you can stay in