of a statute particularly the income for withholding for support i think we have you know i don't think i have to summarize the sequence of events that arose to this there was an order of support nine motion and that was granted a motion to reconsider and then this appeal followed the you come up with clearly gak as one of the several statutes adopted by the legislature which were designed to ensure that a customer no period would receive court order support there are other examples like the guidelines support then the five zero three g trust definition of the terms used up this is not a situation where we even have to go to the ordinary english language the statute says in sales provide specific  s any form of periodic payment to an individual be god most of source including but not limited to wages salary commissions compensation as an independent  workers compensation disability annuity pension and retirement fenya benefits romney prizes and of the royce and most important insurance proceeds he cajun paid bonuses profit not income that i'm assuming they're going to get and say this is reimbursement because they're insured for the for a sick person and they don't have the relationship to the doctor in terms of they think other than reimbursing the doctor or with the services doctor knowledge of the fact that doctor braun was a sole proprietorship that they're paying it they're actually doing the insert a favor it should be sending as you know they're supposed to be  the doctor is providing a service to the patient and the patient is paying a premium to the insurance company and the money insurance company gets supposed to go to the patient to pay that but they send it to the doctors to be nice to their insurers because they get rid of people when we were having this discussion but if here's the thing i did was i understood and maybe both of you can explain it to us that i understood that these were checks are coming back to the doctor where he was getting you know were some would said pay the doctor so it's his fee basically for having i understand and you can tell me because you're an authority in divorce law but i understand it that he thank you well you are and it's well known what i'm as i understand what he's saying is that this is a service additionally it helps him because the checks go to blue cross the check that they cut the check for his wife and son into the state in the state and sense of that isn't it's actually a state service isn't it but it's being provided so it's actually to his benefit he wants it to be done so that he doesn't have to write the checks in case you forget certain case or some dispute basically if you look at the mechanics of it residence and when the residents receive health medical services from a doctor they instruct often their insurance company to pay on their behalf if we did not pay on their behalf when we're required to do so they would sue us right they would sue us because we have no ability to not pay their medical bills to the extent they're covered by or healthy unless we have a legal obligation not to pay in a legal duty not to pay illinois income withholding first poet act does not what that duty on us with respect to a provider for very very simple reasons that follow from ordinary principles of statutory construction and i'm just going to go through those because they are so important in this case your honor the first is that me is determined from the words of the statute the second in the absence of any and unity in the statute you go by  answered by the trial court based on unrebutted evidence even dr bond affidavit that the payee is bond center what dr bond says it is affidavit is that after the cross blue shield illinois pays bond center i take that money is income ok it's afterwards and it's important to remember that this actually talks in terms of a pay or and it's defined who pay is income and it's defined to an they make any checks out to dr phone if they don't bail painting money into the car another reason you have to understand this statute in the broader context of all the statutes on this area is because we're talking about individual who is an individual is a natural person y has it's a parent that has defaulted on child support obligations but i was a natural person so that definition in the statute which talks about the individual natural person identified in the support order individual as used in the definition of income also means a natural person for two very simple reasons number one individual is a natural person by ordinary definitions and individuals as defined in the statute the statutory definition of income uses the word individual individual by a regular plain ordinary meaning means a natural person individual means a natural person by the case law cited in our brief and more significantly than that the definition of income in the statue uses the word individual it also uses the word person that it's right to say the person we the patient so this didn't come to him it's income to him but we don't have a in order to give him an income that individual you're paying your i know you're saying you're saying we're complying with our obligations under our services to people who are insured under your policies period that's right and you're right if we were paying money to an individual then a statute might apply so we don't call it in the definition definition  put in there are certain there if one center does not exist as a legal entity then the payee in fact is dr why is it not if vonne center if you want to take it out of the pic not exactly because of the different statute with different definitions but no no no no yes we don't need to make an analogy because we have to go by the words of this statute and it doesn't apply in our case which is another reason why it makes any situation he can he can undo it or you can do it every once but you're going to continue to do what you have been told to do by him oh he did absolutely create the situation he didn't i don't know where he's really been so long before we got the notice that wasn't i don't think just to evade and there won't be the broad scale invasion that they say just because it's not like an employee and just go in and tell an employer willy nilly i'm going to do business under a different name to avoid so that you do business with bond center so as long as we have some ability to say hey insured we know we're supposed to pay you're covered expenses but we're not going to because this order says when we pay money to on center for services that you receive we don't have to pay a bond sat we have to divert if we divert it without that protection we expose ourself and that onerous nature of the penalties in the statute which has been recognized by the court do  should have looked it up but that that was in one of the exhibits and i don't have the record at all the other thing is once they found out he was a sole proprietorship from that point on i think it's willful it's not it's not