the most recently you must drive much pleasure in this proclamation declaring last november twenty seventh to be damn handy day in detroit and i hold here a copy of it signed by merely but it was embarrassing but enjoyable well congratulations and i thought that instead of defining the whereas this is what will try to bring out of you and i didn't get there there's our day mr handy let's go back to the beginning if we might i mention that you were born in philadelphia how much life of your how many years of your life were spent there i think about five my father was an editor in philadelphia and had i in those days and chicago was a very progressive setting at the time from almost a pantera town in terms of that century they were receptive the idea and i asked him to come out frankly they talked and i didn't know what they were talking about it was so i was was given to understand an educated family and most of them were writers all but one helping  the family living in one way or another and they talked a lot and i didn't know what was going on up there so i became much interested in the general subject of communication especially on the receiving end as a matter of fact i think i read where you had two sisters in particular who did reasonable amount of experiment and with you as the subject on progressive education i think i was in a laboratory and they had that she had to earn a living in a different way don't you know the other was going to the plant just park or school francis park or scold centralized this applies i could see was progressive education allowing argument and i was a guinea pig for them yes no then let's get back to dad for a moment if we made your father's name was moses handy isn't that right be handy yes he was a newspaper publisher but had quite a reputation as an after dinner speaker and troubles of communication on large organizations getting the people to understand why their businesses existed why they had a job of how the job should be handled and why the invention if it weren't invention had been the more so because i was allowed to talk to each of the children was allowed to ask questions and see a number six was allowed to ask two questions i was allowed to ask only one they were almost  years at the exposition one year while it was being built one year while those old them one year while they were tearing it down in the first this is looking at the exhibits world colombian exposition and i finally came to celebrated case and it still well he was committed he had i had read some of his promotional material and said was going to be an education elective and i said well why can't i get my education  and got first permission to go there for a year as a chest about to go to school and then i managed to run again for three years so i got into school and got a running stock and they were glad to get rid of me because nine year old yes mr hardy let's come back through later education when you attended the university president well i didn't attend for too long where i had two ideas i tried to sell one was re i d of democracy i had read and heard something about that as being the generalized policy in the united states the entertainment in the speed with which learning could be accomplished and experiments was made by professor true but in dramatizing his l acting out the situations which were described either historically responded as farakka romances or otherwise allowing the students to participate in the learning process well that well i'd been growing up in the family of journalism the public has a right to be informed so as soon as that first class was over i ran i was tended to for the cross country team anyway i radical ideas should we say or my education is the change of the processes of education make them a little bit more democratic the more in line with what they stood for were outnumbered the accolades  like to have spite of the popularity of some i had those were the students but i wasn't popular as a student and i was turned down by eight other college oh i see did you at any time go back to school or after madrid and no i didn't i went for two weeks to the university of pennsylvania i was a native of the state of pennsylvania and they received but after that the two weeks the input under pressure from policies that is the policies of the board of education in that they were had didn't have enough pictures in the textbooks and said that they were had didn't like that and i didn't like it any the better when i found out that the nineteen year old boy had written those editorial resent the end they wanted me expelled but they let their more comic appeal to their sympathy and explain that it was done while the chief editorial writer was on his vacation i was allowed to stay in my new school mr mccormick will do it is who later became the united states senator was a man with whom you must've had a very close personal relationship well i i'd like to bring something up now which i think is coming close to what later became the development of the fabric of the dam and the organization and your conviction of the power of speaking with the eyes someone told me that the display advertising in the paper was not getting all the results it might have for them or infinite you decided to look into this and i'd like to know what you found out well we had half the circulation of the daily n and it was difficult to keep the advertisers in the daily paper partly because they their ads in the news were read because the news carried more of them and partly because the circulation manager in charge of retail of that if they said it was people who more about what was being offered than the ads that possibly they might be more enthusiastic and more informative whenever asked questions to carry that information for the sake of it wasn't long before the secret weapon of the day the news didn't know what they're doing was working because this poses as a misinformation on the part of the salespeople