pocket right basically a third party observer to the search process no articulable suspicion about anything i've done ovation officer can't say well i'm your pockets i want to search you to agree with that but this is something that is out of his term plainview although that's a loaded term i know but to me he jumps up and reaches up and grabs thing that's a little bit different than somebody who's just sitting there quietly saying i'm just a third party observer the search well i think it was something that was jump about things in the air of things in the house i think the same after you get through that basic proposition doesn't give your heart one is this question of is the search reasonable and it's reasonable if you officers have a reasonable said talked about jackets in purses sometimes the gender specific nature may suggest that it does belong to the probation or does not another factor of whether or not somebody well the question comes down to whether or not ross are savvy reasonable articulable suspicion that that item is owned or controlled by probation so let's look at them in this this came down to talk about this little  coffee table she's living there well i don't i don't think you have to go to join the struggle session in question here seem to be arguing that because he watches for it puts it in the sand that makes it hits yes i mean that's the basis for the position of controlled substance here in this particular case there is no question in my mind that  up anything in that house and put it in your hand it doesn't mean you own it mean all the court has to make that's ok we can i talk a little bit about sr i mean i think one that there's there is no argument about the basic facts skates you know we have not wasn't the information that the probation officer had that she and this defendant were using in making methamphetamine in the residence well i think these issues are now provided certainly using that name all the developed probable cause for the idea that hey i think there's something i think there's something whether it's methamphetamine or cannabis rather comparably i think there's something here but the question officer comes into the house saying you know i'm going to search this residence this i've got a suspicion that the probationer is doing bad stuff and there are these two guys hanging around takes him he says you sit down here kitchen and everything in her house we don't know who owns the silverball all right he does the probation officer but he comes in he's got your client at the other guy in the kitchen sitting at the kitchen table he sees the silver bullet on the coffee table said you know this is the kind of thing people store drugs in picks it up opens it up finds the drugs aha i found drugs anything wrong with that search you know we're not talking about what now you know if you want to if you want to add facts that there's sitting on sitting on top of a letter that's addressed to terri on or it's sitting on a letter or something were i would just like to make a brief comment about the probation search issue at least as i understand defendants vision as expressed relief it is by the defendant by wrapping the silver bullet so