is there anyone that would wish to take their five minutes of opportunity saying no one will move on unfinished business is piers there's none so next would be new business and first item on the school football team the football association currently has this sign which i believe was taken from us on the field that we had once before and that was purchased by the fee teacher fake for  end by saying this will this score will be used by two sports lacrosse and football and will cross is going to work with us albus fundraise for this so that's why we're here we're trying to get the and then just decisions made in this situation since the football association would be paying for that the signed and already the revenues from the advertising would go to them for the support costs carry so in your plans is that to make each one of these for a one two three four five year commitment by the  concerned about and perhaps i don't remember correctly from the prior agreement but there are also signs currently on the field at the baseball and other vinyl when they're attached to the fence and my understanding was is that there is money part of that money goes back be thirty two square feet it wouldn't be six foot high would be five feet high if we go with this other vendor which will honestly it right now is looking at maybe five thousand dollars less expensive so i had to come back if we end up going on with them and say ok all right next working hard time thinking about send some information to mr sylvester that hopefully was given to you before the meeting i don't intend to go through that detail but of course i'll answer any questions that you may have on it i did just want to hit on some of my points  as far as the local friends activities are not too much that's different than what we've done in past years the big news in two thousand and thirteen was contributing towards the construction of valley brokerage number one with about four hundred volunteer hours and twenty seven thousand dollars raised from local donations and mobile fundraising events the big news in two thousand and fourteen should be the beginning of construction  n certain bid package details our assumption is that it will get approved from t t p within the next several weeks and will be ready to advertise for bid probably end of april beginning of may and if that happens we would expect to see construction beginning by the end of the year with the completion of construction sometime around this point next year or maybe a little bit later part of the reason for that is to complete aggrey crossing we have as a result of the last project now that will require cause a little bit of disturbance to our trail users are already enjoying the new bridge because for construction activities will have to close between now and then the laser but we also expect that going to construction this year and to be complete again about this time next year and have been telling for many years it's on horizon all this time it's really on horizon that will be finished this spring with opening shortly thereafter i was asked by mr lewis last year about the crossing at route fifty and and i'm happy to report that according to our  to the east of us we're doing some other projects in the south park township area to connect the library viaduct further east we have a primarily volunteer project which will connect the library via dock with pleasant street that's a project that south park township actually was the applicant for on our behalf and we are already started a little bit of  work on that and we're getting very close to having an agreement with a console through their research facility to then connect the end of the for the project of pleasantry through their a consistency or is it all done by township ordinance we have trail etiquette rules which require your dogs to be leashed the only places  periodic courtesy signs every half mile saying pick up after your dog and things like that part we have not updated on rules signs in actually quite a while thank you make questions on that i did have one other thing to go over and it has to do with a it's mostly informational i'm not here to twist your arm or anything just let you know what's going on  there is a proposed bicycle route fifty that will cross the country it's something being put together by adventure cycling a nonprofit whose mission is to encourage an advocate recreational bicycling what much of which is on roads the proposed route through pennsylvania for us route fifty would be partly on road partly on trails much of it on the great getting great allegheny passage on to the mon a on the panhandle trail over towards where to in order to gain ten dots by and for the part that is on the road and get permission to sign it accordingly and make it eas for people to find and we were requested to pass a simple resolution basically endorsing the routing of bicycle route fifty on the mount or prevail which the council did several months recommending calloused council pass a simple resolution in support of this but they also expressed the hope that adventure cycling would take steps to ensure the trail rules and speed limits on our head were observed  and again i'm not here to advocate or twist arms just let you know that this is on and in the works and here council does wish to adopt such an ordinance i'd be happy to forward it on to the folks who are working with adventure cycling there's six thousand miles currently which was a surprise to me when i did my cross country bicycle ride with my son in two thousand and nine the entire way through virginia we were on a bicycle route that is signed pretty much like you see interstate sign except the signs are much smaller which made it very easy to navigate our way through the state and i would assume that the parts that are in their own road on the bicycle route would be signed accordingly but it would be pretty much forever it's not and then it's something that would be used to tell people how they could plan their own bicycle ride from you know starting point ending point where ever you peters township was recently made aware of one of our residents who has a single family home that's in a north to zoning district which makes it non conforming under zoning guidelines denied refinancing because if the house was destroyed ordinance is that it can't be rebuilt so there was has to see on the part of the bank to on maid marian in shares core we have single family homes in order to zone which are known conforming planning commission has discussed this matter are at the last two meetings of the commission and want to try to correct that problem they initially thought that by making a single family home a condition we use or special exception would solve the problem but according to  banks that would not solve the problem because it's not a gary t if that house is destroyed it can be rebuilt on the other thought was to rezone which creates spot zoning issues especially in this area  the policy varies by the bank ok we'll talk to a number of banks and so i think it varies by the bank for debt and other situations i'm not sure if whoever is doing the research for that lending institution may be going in  family homes in hard to district as we used by right so that that's a fairly recent change ok and as one of the options we talk about is you know a simple solution w you have known conforming uses in a certain zoning district you don't want those not used to continue but i think that the case law and is pretty much i think already sketchy on this the only time you really lose a non conforming use is by lack of use or abandonment of the use the law the case law and i this i've looked at this in the past and i don't know if it's specific to an ordinance but normally in a casual the non conforming uses the ordinance looks to accomplish that task but if you build your home here you live here in your house burned down not only can you can't build you've got to leave you know you can't put it back up so it's not just a refinance issue it's a harsh reality and that's depot deliver salt from ohio by truck which i'm sure was an expensive arrangement but you know they did give us our two hundred tonnes of salt that week so in that respect i am recommending that we it was a very difficult time and they did you notice so so it's half as much as the football side money and put it on there we might have we have a motion in a second early further discussion the motion was to do the whole sixty two longer no forty three hundred which roughly fifteen thousand dollars worth of a t v in cleaning now that number is probably high because that included a line item for heavy sewer cleaning which i don't think we're going to encounter it's kind of like a contingency so it's going to be some somewhere south of fifteen thousand dollars put that that's proposed to come out of the capital budget for sewers anyways but i think what that would do allow us to camera some of these lines that we can't get with the state camera the public works has very well and if we can do some condition access recommendation for the word bit which was super special the services that work with them before and they said the way it's typically works is they'll get together and have an initial like scheduling meeting with them to try to get an idea of when they plan to go in each municipality but then once they kind of get those macro details work out they work out the micro details of each individual municipality so we'll probably meet with a contractor you know several weeks before they intend to mobilize into peter's to go over the scope of work and item is on your agenda because we had received an application for the road opening permit to tide circle drive in to  the council will recall that only just plop this up here hold on one second that we had received a copy of it warder from here into st clear and also into piers the portion where the township comes into play is to connect that they would make it flow better they would make modifications to the portion where believe back in the fifty's us was a previous plane it was approved by the name of that i've seen that but i think that representations been made and i don't recall and i believe i'm pumped positive that they have the right of way or they have approval by a court order to connect to that private road and again we're already connected to the the townships already connected this is just one removed we're seeing clear is connected to that road so we're  there is proving i think they're improving that as well they just don't need our approval and i suspect at some point perhaps they'll bring it up to your standards and dedicate it marked we know if that's their plan to to give that over to the township they're already constructing it to be nice and all standards i think in  and he immediately where the car was he immediately gave him access and i think that was about an hour hour and a half to lay and we apologize for that they had talked amicably the day before today was and so amicably far as good and so that's that's what we're doing and we're trying to get the road dedicated and trying to complete the project now that didn't sound like it was quite the right way to go well i won't say it was right waiter but we didn't know how to connect  don't think count was an issue with davin so much as they have an issue with you providing notice to the residents up there and clearly what you knew even a day before you know hopefully someone can reach out to these individuals just want to know what's going to go on while it seemed like it was going ok in that area for a couple of weeks yes for sure will be there is there a number that individuals can have to contact any the contractors up there if they have an issue because since it's not on the township broke all of us is going to do a whole lot more that would be my number  where you know you're in an untenable situation because you wanted to do something that they your township wouldn't allow you to do that now by virtue of what they would allow you to do the problems are going to fall into the peters township residents particularly the people in their private road who had no intention of that happening become a three way which is what is going to become which is what st clair council obviously intended it to be to try to get traffic in this direction can understand that and not from the developer standpoint i can understand why you have a gravel situation and then there's divots coming out of the driveway and stuff and that's always going to take good care of or you just pay them to get away there's a lot of people who fly through there they drive through explain it to me i think the board is well aware of the situation it's a private fight between two litigants in a township and there's a mailbox that one neighbor alleges is in front of the other neighbor's property albeit in our right of way in the townships right away as i think i advised the board in my report i'm doing our best to keep the township out of what i believe to be a private boundary dispute directed counsel for the  two if she believes that it's on the wrong property to seek clarification or redress with the court i believe now they are saying they want to improve and widen that driveway on the left is that correct as the house owner and to do so they need to remove the metal box that is in the township right away of course mailboxes have their own federal laws about touching mailboxes so as we've advised her in the past i think councils received a copy that letter we now have to respond again i don't believe we've received any application or we would actually receive this letter although i think the managers advised me they wouldn't even need an application for prove all from us but it really it may change the situation but not the scenario the scenario is they want to have that mailbox removed and want the talent of to be involved in the removal of it again my advice would and i don't provide advice other counsel but i said this is not a township issue although it's in our right away i believe that since this case did go to court and went to the appellate court and if there is a clarification a need to be done by the court system that that's the mechanism so that the talented doesn't have to get involved in extending funds on trying to figure out whether this mailbox is properly there whether the court even dealt with it if you read the opinion the court i can't recall but i don't remember if they even dealt with this or resolve this particular issue obviously there was going to i think the previous letter we sent to the border or some self help directive saying that we're on saturday two o'clock removing that mailbox and we wrote back and said we don't want to have to dispatch the police up there we're not sure it's in it's in our right away it's obviously again covered by federal law and there is a court little piece of litigation covering this issue the township police it's a court issue they need to go back to court if they want redress so that's going to the property where the mil they believe they're in the right they should seek recourse or clarification from the court ok second letter is from dominic to franco normally it's not an issue but i did want to read remind counsel that this is going to be on the very road which is you know obviously getting increased traffic because of the value of a project although i'm not sure saturday morning m township peters creek sanitary authority is primarily on the southeastern part of the township while peters township sanitariums for the balance of the township peters creek sanitary authority went through an excruciating process a while back already and this rate increases largely a result of having to help them pay for their bond issue for their new plant so that is one of the secondary issues we were very concerned about when we were trying to figure out an alternative but to see him would not agree for peter's create to go ahead and try to look at their own plant so they had to throw in and stay involved with clare municipal they have been doing due diligence trying to maintain and they've been paying the fee on the bar and out of their reserve funds so that they didn't have to raise rates until now but the increase is going to be fairly significant the other issue mr involvement and possibly working on some type of schematic design so we can look at trying to get some grants and work with other groups ok thank you but that's it meeting is a