independent media is the hope have you seen what's happening in your sanctuary lately during the threat now for another episode of your sanctuary program that highlights what makes our national marine sanctuaries so special and the people that keep them that way  the other day michelle asked me to watch for seventy two she's around four and they think she's about ready to win her first pop i noticed right away that something wasn't right for seventy two his ribs were poking out it looks like she was starving she kept diving for food and every time she'd surface her puppet almost attacked her with hunger i watched it for over an hour and i sure didn't see your eat much meanwhile about twenty feet away i saw the territorial male kind of hovering eventually i figured it out he was trying to m ranges where there's more food in the animals or less stressed it's rare and it's just not ok to lose reproductive age females like this we have all experienced the power of a good film they have the ability to move us environmental films were just beginning to hit television when jock cousteau captured the world with national geographic's undersea voyages that early virtual experience changed many lives including my own today ocean and wildlife programs abound many fascinating us some surprise us while others inspire us to take action today i'm speaking with mark shelley executive director of se studios foundation and a renowned filmmaker marc is perhaps best known for his production of strange days on planet earth the program is the recipient of fourteen international awards and was hosted by academy award nominee edward norton strange days on planet earth is praised for the quality of its environmental content its style its storytelling and pioneering techniques in underwater and deep sea filmmaking mark welcome to your sanctuary thanks for coming on good to be her paul thanks you know so what inspired you to be a photographer and a filmmaker well you know i don't think i ever set out to be a filmmaker photographer but i had this deep interest in the water and was introduced into the  ocean when i was in college and i may have been my first dive of going under and seeing occult force i was lucky enough to be diving here and i thought jesus gotta be a way that i can connect what i'm doing right now with a life because i don't want to do anything different so how do you set up the shots and he must spend a number of hours just waiting for the right moment sure you know and it's changed over the time that i've been a filmmaker initially we would go out and we had big budgets we had a lot of time to tell the story and you would let it happen more and more we're really carefully storyboarding how we tell the story and story telling i think is a lot more important now than it was when i started and so crafting the story making sure that the way the story is going to unfold for the audience is really important so how to do that you really carefully tell the story ahead of time and you go on and film it it changes and then you go and you edit it and it changes again so they're kind of three different phases of the whole filmmaking process tell us about honor five one this amazing story of an orphaned young sea otter pup right we we had the opportunity to tell a story about c r toure's surprisingly you know what such a charismatic animal that sea otters are there's never been a real big major film made about c r so it was a great opportunity that we had and the story kind of unfolded because we were able to work so closely with the monterey bay aquarium and we happen to be there when a three day old pup comes in and is rescued and that all of a sudden became that's got to be the story following this puppy through and to its eventual release seven or eight months or back into the wild was an amazing story arc you know you don't get a great story arc like that very often and here was this terrific story that  presented itself to us it's a great film and if our viewers want to see the film how do you see file five one auto five or one is going to be released theatrically and it'll be in monterey santa cruz in this whole area in theaters beginning about may great and may hopefully everyone will will hear about it and come and then after that they'll be lots of opportunities to see it that's right well mark it's been a pleasure to have you on the show thanks so much for coming at you good good for you to be doing the program will i think we have a special clip of water five one we want to share yeah i'd love to show the piece we're actually to a bonds for the first time with five a one great let's check it out five zero one will be her twelfth pup five o one was so shy she didn't even want to come out of the pet carrier all she did was hi obviously it was going to take some time for these two to get comfortable with each other and for two to start acting like a mom her hormones need to trigger two they kept poking around five a one but then she just swim  but each time i checked back it seemed like they were warming up a bit so i just kept checking ten hours past finally after three days i turned on my otter cam feed and i see this with a little luck it will take about six months or five i want to learn all the things she needs to know before she can be released i might even be around for that the first underwater film premiered in berlin in one nine hundred forty two the first full color underwater documentary the sixth continent was released in one nine hundred fifty four reporter dear whalen is in the field with this week's hospitality spotlight let's go up to future now and see what's going on thanks paul we're so excited because today we're here at portola who tellen spa with janine she corrupt the general manager and as you may know portola h as a long history and commitment to being environmentally friendly while at the same time providing an absolutely stunning accommodations for their guests janine your hotel is doing much to set itself apart with your environmental standards can you tell me a little bit about what you're doing well actually it kind of stem from going through a whole culture change and getting our silver the sort of occasion which is given to us by the united states green building association and when you go through a process like that you make numerous changes that are environmentally friendly and in every aspect of what you do moving forward is are decisions based on what's best for the balance of running your business and also for environment now your hotel enjoys a unique proximity to monterey bay national marine sanctuary how do you connect your guests to the sanctuary first of all we actually show an interim video that is produced by the marine sanctuary to let them understand is underneath that beautiful water that's right outside our back door and then we direct people i mean we help them book kayaking tours paddle boarding excursions and whale watching and if you've never been on a whale watching tour you need to because it's more than just see whales it's unbelievable the amount of sea life that exists in our bay janine i know your hotel has been working really hard on the lead certification tell us about that lead actually is again by the united states green building association and they ha criteria that you can choose a bunch of different avenues to make your building more environmentally friendly and we chose in our room renovation for example to incorporate things such as low b s v o c paint paint for stewardship baseboards for wood and environmentally designed mattress from a local mattress company carpet that one hundred percent recyclable so there's all kinds of things that are out there that exist and the reality is actually doesn't cost any more money than it does to do a normal renovation on a hotel well now i'm curious how do your employees feel about this new culture of environmentalism you know our employees have totally embraces and it's been a lot of fun in fact i had an employee come up to me one time and say to me that they were so proud of what we're doing at the hotel that he didn't think that old people like me were into the environment which i thought wow i'm being called old for the first time in my life but you know some of things we do is  as best we can now in addition to your lead certification you've won some other awards haven't you we've actually always participate in the rap award we wanted eighteen consecutive years and that's the state of california waste reduction award but even more  recently we just won the governor's jew award which is the economic and environmental leadership award and that's an award hotels just don't get we were there in the company of some major corporations in some small very small green businesses and it was quite an honor fact the governor and sell shutout tell me how enjoyable was it to have the blue ocean film festival here you know the blue ocean film festival is absolutely amazing and we're so fortunate to have it in our community and we're the host hotel but what comes together people from all over the world in are variety of different marine settings and you're able to experience these places that you know sometimes you may never go to in your life and then for them to be able to come here and experience what we have here we've got a world treasure out there and it's just it's just an incredible event and i hope it continues to grow every year because it's a really special did you know we still know more about the surface of the moon than we do about the bottom of the ocean as superintendent of america's largest national read sanctuary i understand the challenges of getting ocean protection out to the public not everyone has the same perspective on ocean issues and many people who live it went don't realize the connection with the ocean film can be a very powerful one affective way to experience the ocean and with me today is internationally a way for me to share the ocean with others and that for me has really been the focus of my work and is bringing people there so how do you go about developing film to inspire action that's this is more than just taking front photographs you have to really have a thought in mind that you want to convey well that's the tricky part you know i start out in stills where i was trying to catch or capture a moment it told a story and get people engaged but getting people engaged isn't enough you know pretty pictures are wonderful we we fall in love with the ocean but then what do you do and today when we have so much information or fingertips and so little attention such a short attention span i should say it's it's very important i feel to engage people with story telling a good story give and most importantly giving give them meaningful action something really is going to make a difference rather than just make them feel good in the moment your films are not only beautiful but they tend to really evoke a lot of emotion how do you do that without her cross any lines it must be hard well i think the key is to not hit people with too much negative story to where they feel that promise so daunting they can't do anything about it i think today really the key word is empowerment and monterey bay is a perfect example of an easy story to tell to empower people it's a success story and monterey bay is one of the few places that's much better off now than it was a hundred years ago and when you give people that sense of ownership when you give them a character they can connect to the film power we give them and we want to give them real meaningful actions to take to make a difference that's great you're really involved in the safeway program how are you connected with the security program well currently i'm i'm sure the board nationally sanctuary foundation i'm real sanctuary supporter i feel the same juries are best matrix in this country for meaningful ocean protection and i used to think that the notion of act locally think globally act locally was was really the wrong way of looking at things i really used to think that it was global action that was necessary but over the years i spent in ring conservation i've come to learn that really it is about taking ownership of your own little piece of the ocean and enough people do that and if people feel that sense of ownership for sanctuaries then those those dots will connect and we we can go a healthy ocean again you were so excited you're producing a film for our sanctuary exploration center that's going to open this number in santa cruz yeah can you give us just a hint about what the film is going to be about and then some of the technologies i know you've been using to really make that a powerful film well we're using a free divers are storyteller kurt croc from the cove and we're using a free dive a sort of a metaphor of how we look at the ocean and how we look at a place the small slice of time we tend to look at things  perspective we take as human beings being such a small slice of time like a free dive but this morning these things can be very experienced will film and we're using a lot of very cool technology we're using phantom cameras to shoot at two thousand frames a second we have a sea lions clip in mole is a thousand frames per second which it was you see things in those shots you don't see the naked eye we have we're using the center flex which is a super stabilized camera so we can be a rocking boat and the camera stays rock steady and we can reach out and get wildlife a very great distance and feels like it right there so we're doing a lot of really neat stuff we refute in thirty five millimeter film for some of our underwater sequences which is not you see a lot of anymore but it gives us this great dynamic range helps us you know really see into the shadows and help for us and feel like we're there so it's not going to feel like a video presentation is going to feel more like a mini imax film oh wow you brought some clips to share with us let's take a look technology sensors and tools are expanding our ability to explore the ocean ocean scientists are relying more and more on satellites and remotely operated vehicles our next segment heroes which as i shout out to our ocean champions  one world one ocean is the culmination of everything that i done through my life starting with the ocean and surfing films all the way through the educational films the biggest problem of all is that most people don't know that the ocean is in trouble we now know that we are right on the edge of losing a great many things that half the coral reefs around the world are already gone but half of them are still in pretty good shape ninety percent of many of the big fish go the oceans are lifeblood our survival truly defense directly upon the oceans at best we know is something on the order of two to ten percent of all the species we share this planet with and we're losing species it very alarming so we have three goals for the campaign the first goal is to increase marine protected areas right now we're at less than two percent we want to get to ten percent by two thousand and twenty when you do give the ocean protection it can revitalize that area have more of a fish and a better ecosystem and so that's one big goal of ours is to get people to actually sign petitions donate from army checked in areas the second goal is to get people to change the way they eat seafood and i think we can do a lot about educating the public as to what is sustainable and what's not sustainable and a third goal is reducing plastic pollution in order to do all of this is to make three imax films a feature film and a television specials as well as digital cinema that will go out everywhere is going to be to get the two billion people to appreciate the ocean in a new way to understand it better and to want to protect this is the moment it's not too late this is this magical point in time where we can act on what we know right now to make a difference to secure and enduring place for too many things are riding on the success of the health of the ocean we have to keep it healthy find out what people think about film and the ocean rene do you enjoy movies about the ocean and why is that because there's a lot of nature and wildlife yes i enjoy films about the ocean and why is that because i think the ocean gives life it's teaches us about nature a lot of stuff that we don't learn in normal society because i think we need to pursue the oceans and what's in it and it's not not in much done about it to understand what's way down below do you believe that films about the ocean can change the way that people act yeah i do maybe they went through so much garbage intellect crap and he can be helpful yes awareness to litter environment those types of things yeah because the ocean is much more vast than the land and the stuff that we're doing to the ocean is kind of it's detrimental to  our vironment because it controls our at the same time we need to feed our imaginations we need motivation we need inspiration and now and it gives people knowledge and knowledge is power paul we have moved over to the front of the o c oh theater in downtown monterey do you like movies about the ocean i like movies about just about anything i'm not a big fan but i totally appreciate everything that yes but i i love the ocean period yes i do i was in the navy before and i spent a lot of time on the ocean is very beautiful you see a lot a lot of different things going on out there it's a totally different world out here watch planet earth and it's completely a world that you never see you know and movies can give you that knowledge of that being it's going to depths of the ocean that we can never go to ourselves and see what life is like that it causes a very on explored place very gorgeous place and sometimes very scary looking place do you feel that film is powerful enough to change the way people behave about the ocean i do i think it at least has that potential and so yeah with maybe some other influences as well like i think it can people are influenced by the media and whatever seems like the whatever people see on t v that's what they believe or do they see on film that's what they foll i kind of just prefer my films are so i just like to take it at that but i think it can work for the right people it's partially documentaries where you can perceive what is on there in your own way and  or preserve it according to what the media puts out i mean you can you can change the world with films what you watch a film about a talking star fish  yeah i'm pretty sure i had probably not know depends of what the starfish was talking about any time that my grandchildren any time any time but for adults no it's i mean they could use it to be an information level you know to to understand more about creation ocean life but it doesn't have to haiti and for africa but for anywhere in the world but right now we have design principles for a rocket stove which is mainly a wood burning stove but there really are design principles for how do you make a really efficient charcoal soap so we spent the week coming up with what is a design principle for charcoal stoves so we spent a week testing and looking at different designs and really had amazing amazing week of really looking at what makes a charcoal stove efficient and what can you do and if someone out there in the world now wants to design a charcoal stove they can look at these basic guidelines of what makes a charcoal stove efficient the stove not only saves seventy five percent or eighty percent of fuel it pollutes over ninety percent less than open fire almost it burns so hot it's over two thousand degrees fahrenheit in the combustion chamber and it's burning up everything so there are there's almost no particular matter there's no carbon monoxide there's no carbon dioxide coming out of this unit is when it's burning there's no visible smoke and because of the way it's constructed the stove body remains cool to the touch while this cooking so we don't get there's a lot of little kids in the in the developing world with horrible burns from stumbling around open fire this is peak moment we're living at a peak of human innovation information wealth and health but we're also at a peak of population in consumption with rising temperatures  oregon thanks for joining me my pleasure and give me all the titles your toes what do you do consultancy which means i go internationally and help people build fuel fission woodstoves in the developing world i'm also in the structure of appropriate technologies in general so about ten different educational center and a lab now doing research particular stoves and we had was born about thirty years ago with the development of an improved cookstove and then from that time and now is really focused largely on the cookstove but then has now branched into a wider range of sustainability issues from permaculture to organic agriculture sustainable forestry and like i said a wide range of appropriate technology subjects so so appropriate technology just give us a little what is that yeah so a perfect knowledge of the term coin gandhian revolution in india where the people of india were able to take back local control of of their means of production of both clothing and salt those are two big examples that were legal and by just taking back those means  production and getting their needs met they were able to gain independence become their own country so that term now is plied to technology of the sort where you have local control no one can remove it from you so we have alternative technologies such as solar panels from the river and you can often produce a house so in other words appropriate technology something that's in your own control and no one really can take it away from you we are going to need a lot of that is i mean it's going to have to take it because the big industrial model is going to last you know exactly and when it won't last forever and when it the suffering that comes from that commitment so the idea of for food systems for energy needs for all those needs to have local control is besides the fact it's wonderful and fun and empowering it is also going to benefit guatemala and about six people invented a stove and named the lorraine a stove and it was really beautiful one local materials but at that point it was just a bunch of artisans and there wasn't science involved so basically they built a beautiful stove but turned out it wasn't quite as efficient as they thought it was and but they made a lot of money doing to control the work before they got found out and they were with that money they were able to buy a research center so luckily when they found out the stove need improvement they were able to have the land and devote themselves to research  that stove work and when purchased the land became a research center in a wide range of topics and then now is doing to use that research center really to find it to you to use science to really develop what it should be and is now in the world building stoves as it should be once we've had the science ok married with the experience in the on the ground on the ground ok let's take a second and do show me the anatomy and how this how it works how the right stuff works y that so recently create the stove that was local materials called the lorraine a stove but it really didn't look at design principles of what makes a stove efficient so what operators spent really the whole eighty's and into the ninety's really looking at as well forty years or so this has been storing solar energy so you have a lot of potential energy so combustion turns that into heat well then the heat needs to be put into what you're trying to heat so those two sides are combustion efficiency and heat transfer efficiency so  is relatively easy to do to get ninety plus percent it's the heat transfer for fuel efficiency that's a real difficult point so at operate your we do work on both sides of it all explain why the second side but for fuel use the magic really is getting the heat into what you're trying to heat so in the example of this stove there's a griddle this is a tortilla stove for central america we have a perfect sized gap underneath here where the heat is forced really close to the griddle and below that health so our our health yes our funding actually comes more from health concerns than it does for a feel used and the reason is because the world health organization has did some studies and found out the leading cause of death for kids under the age of five on this planet is respiratory illness the first from many different things but the chances of getting a respiratory illness are up to eight times greater if you have a you're in a household with three attritional wood burning fire and think about the kids during the developmental time their lungs are hanging out with their moms in the backs or around their legs so during the most developmental times there are around smoky fires so that that kind of says that the chance of being a restroom is are pretty directly caused by smok indoor fires so when that was kind of put maybe knew that was smoke was bad but when that would those numbers are really put to put down there and it was discovered that that was really the leading cause of death for kids under the age of five on this planet funding came in and people really got behind stove is less so for the fuel efficiency use but for clean combustion so we do that two ways we have a chimney and that's ideal but many of our people that need stoves are the two point six billion people in need stoves out there can't afford a chimney stove so we really want to look for how can you clean up a stove the way cost ten dollars if you want to look for a market stove it has to cost less than ten dollars so in doing that we do it our rocket combustion chambers in iraq what is a rocket stove is a really what makes a rocket stove is a combination of principles on the combustion side it is  rocket combustion chamber which is really a small combustion chamber that lends itself to people use small pieces of wood so instead of like a big log that doesn't like to burn you tend to use smaller sticks because you have a smaller combustion chamber ok and so thin around it so between this wall and this combustion chamber is a two to three inches of insulation so the temperature so all those things that cool your fire which is the stove body the large pieces of wood and excess air are reduced in this very simple design called the rocket combustion it would be just a small little space below and so he transfer combustion efficiency in design principles that's a rocket stove great thank you and i noticed you had examples of portable yeah going to show that yeah that's go take a look at  really good heat transfer and so the nice middle two times hit the bottom the pot in come out it's dropped in temperature enough to where we can use a mild or metal high temperature stainless or we can use ceramic and then once it hits the pot it gets cooled off a little bit by giving its heat you can use a milder steel i c so then but the really important thing similar to the griddle explain the earlier is that there's a perfect little gap to force those flue gases and close to what you're trying to heat in the griddle stove it was a metal griddle and here it's maybe sixt leader todd so the sixty or pot sits inside and it's hard to tell but there's a little tiny gap yeah i was to say yeah i see that down here you got a little it's a secondary gap so let's look at the first caps of the pots it's in you would actually notice that there would be a small gap we're talking about one centimeter really between this wall and where the pots going to and that's where the flue has actually come up and they are originally give their heat to the pot ok right so lots of surface area then we have a choose a chimney stove so we have a chimney exit down here collect and go out the chimney but this does something amazing that sometimes people get or don't get is that that heat that's going up here wants to go anywhere that's colder so it goes in the pot because that's colder but now it can't go out because those gases that are going down are pretty much the same temperature so another words that heat is now going mostly into the pot so it's really high temperature transfer efficiency as we call that and then outside that downward gases we have insulation o you're not going to get burned you're going to get no you don't have burns a safety and then you also have the heat only really can go into the pot that's really so super hot and heat transfer efficiencies directing it both from underneath and from the sides yes we have some examples of  institutional stoves one example we show a photo of in my slide shows in malawi where there was a school that use ninety five percent less wood to cook so this amazing photo of what they cook for these i think it was sixty or eighty kids and every day they use this much wo now and before they use twenty times it is a big pile the show daily they used to use and now they use and so when you start multiplying that in the hundreds that's an amazing amount of wish every day so and which here syria is going to be critical critical for sure so  so this is a really good one of our for one of our really highest efficiency designs and i want to introduce you to fred who is really running this project oh fabulous ok so this is fred cauldron who is starting a cold and stove works which is this project love have him explain really what's going on here this style came into being because my partner damon ogle went to uganda to try to build this stove in the developing world in the field and he realized it was very very difficult to build to the precision necessary for this dough which is one millimeter of tolerance it's very difficult to do in the developing world without some specialty tools so damon came back and we've been building this system for constructing these stoves for the last three years we start with laser cut parts which is a really the high tech part of the stow this is a laser cut piece of three ten stainless this is what the combustion chamber is made of it's very it's these are recycled steel drums i've i found i found from some guy down in utah ok and they're perfect shape invert the barrel on the jig and all the way out happens here so the combustion chamber isn't exactly the right spot all of the various pieces of the stove are laid out within this one millimeter tolerance range so that we have a stove that will perform like it's supposed to and it's interesting instead of building one millimeters a very small distance but but one millimeter mistake in constructing the stove could mean a twenty percent loss in fuel efficiency it's weird we're talking about very very tight tight constraints so to make a good stove we develop the system of transferable so now does this jig this this place where you put all the parts together right is this then brought to the third world the other developing country exactly and here and then we're and then do they attempt to find some of those materials there or do it would really depend on the local on the local situation we're working on a project now in nigeria so the first step is i will go there and and see if i can find a local barrel source see what materials i can find on the ground there and then we will build the tools for that for that project ship whatever parts they need clearly the laser cut parts they're not available or and then go and train the people who are going to do the production and continue to ship the parts so that we can make these stoves and create a viable business in the developing world and a stove factory that should be able to to produce these in any hours so so so part of your work then volves the pieces that didn't exist to set up stone factories in other countries for example to do to help their own countries and to have businesses that are viable and in everybody's winning is what exactly and to get these stoves out there this the stove not only saves seventy five percent or eighty percent of fuel it pollutes look over ninety percent less than open fire almost it burns so hot it's over two thousand degrees fahrenheit in the combustion chamber and it's burning up everything so there are there's almost no particulate matter there's no carbon monoxide there's no carbon dioxide coming out of this unit is when it's burning there's no visible smoke and because of the way it's constructed the stow body remains cool to the touch while there's cooking so we don't get there's a lot of little kids in this in the developing world with horrible burns from stumbling around around open and teaching them how to test so basically here's a what here's a slush of some of the stoves that we've had sent over here we've had hundreds of stoves sent to the lab to be tested over the years and we test them here for missions and fuel use and they can make some design recommendations of things they can do and then besides that we also are creating test leak testing centers like after of a jew around the world so let me take you over to some of our equipment here and i can show you what we are the equipment we use here to test and also what we are sending out to we call regional testing centers so what you're doing is you're empowering local people to do their own testing yeah exactly so in every area the world people to have to send their stovetop of a child could send it to a real testing center or go to that real test they need to be trained on what like i said the lung disease of kids and then carbon monoxide which is also very dangerous which is gas it comes up those are the two main issues the wood burning stoves have particulate matter carbon monoxide and then we also do measure c you've got the anti israel like the israelis left wing who's against the occupation and on that side you've got the israelis who are working to sit in there and there's protests here and then there's a massive march which i'm going to go to the how independent media is the hope