evidence of record of any actual evidence that our body ever made contact with virginia well if the physical communication to virginia from right right now it isn't the allegations that's why the district court said it's all california well you know i would like to we'd like to be able to rest on delegations that we've made because we know  and the what we have put into the complaint is look quite carefully crafted it is what we believe to be true it is what research has shown to be true is what prior litigation is shown to be truth is it i know you're relying on silent driveby strong industries and you argue quote we're no jurisdictional discovery has been taken to court must accept the complaint allegations this is true and resolve currently tourist to california well that's true that there is certainly jurisdiction in california but we believe there's a very strong case to make this trip six in virginia as well a low body and it and i think the district court was afraid to step beyond the stream of thomas e mail us because the manufacturer asked mr at one point we would like to distribute your creating a candid looks like coke and something that sounds like coke and then finding at distributors book look at what we have it looks just like code would you like to distribute it and when the distributor says yes then that  with the manufacturers i'm struggling with your reliance on calder because condor itself had significant contact with the form state i just don't see contact you're of the type that you seem cold how how you know how can you what sources do you have i mean in calgary you had that the party that was harmed was in california you had that there were contacts with curtis in california there were a lot more contacts there what do you have here to support coulter received knowledge of they probably were copying that brand kept doing it anyway even though like the owner of the company said it's done x we expected this week we knew this is going to happen when you ask an entity to distribute their products they say no you create a copycat grand outing not expect it but i think when you tell an entity that you are not going to continue to distribute how can you not expect to be held to your obligation when you break it but if there are other kings there was also the fact that i think maybe a large percentage of the distributorship of the magazine was directed to asked you where is your evidence of sales you admitted there was no evidence of sales other than the fact that you would think that they would be sold a bridge in your given the population of virginia right  international distributors opposed to being a single small crop in california is that correct correct but you are going to read great that all a body denied being center we are a wholesale warehouse for all your who can tobacco needs all per proper business licenses are needed for customer service does that imply something outside the state of california but to point the bodies faced in california they have to come forward and show that he shooting from california and aiming towards virginia there's no evidence of that either so given the facts here given the paltry record you're on our  virginia has a substantial arab american population yes rather and that's it well it in the same way that there are target markets for specific items this is a very big market for look at sales and the same way that there nobody is shooting anything in a virginia in the same way and in silent drive where i'm shot an infringement cease and desist letter a demand letter out from