spend a few minutes at the request of valerie improve who is kind of leading in helping us run this manager search committee and give the board an update on what's happened so far and we thank the  meeting in early december to kind of organize ourselves and select a chairman and secretary i'm the chairman and tim pender's the secretary and just kind of got the lay of the land in terms of how the process was going to play out for the next month or back thirty five resumes back to the college center they screened those thirty five resumes down to really twenty we would call very highly qualified individuals are twenty one qualified individuals and  first meeting we held after going through all the resume screening we basically down selected from the twenty one resumes down to nine candidates we thought would fit the job description of the town and then have the qualifications we thought  necessary to fill this role we've held six interview so far into two sessions we do an hour interview for each candidate all seven of us are in the room we've got a very kind of scripted set of questions so every candidate gets the same questions we do give the candidates time at the end to to make a closing statement saying they want to that we may not have asked our last three interviews will be held tomorrow night  we will submit to the call and center who will be at the meeting and somebody from the call and said has been at the meeting each of the interview sessions and all the meetings we've held the collins center will go in and do all the background checks corey checks any of the  educational checks reference checks on our finalists and then come back to us were expecting on the twenty first of january to have all the background checks done them reporting back to us at a meeting prior to the bourse elections meeting and  far and if interviewed well we'll present at the january twenty first course luck in meeting our finalists for the border slot meant to interview and then finalize a town manager out of this process that's just kind of where we stand today and it's everybody seems to be working well it's a good group of well qualified good help mccall and sar and i think we're getting some some good we've seen some good applicants in that i think this will be a fruitful and ever you know from the end of january i really appreciate all the work that the committee's done i attended the first kickoff meeting just introduce the charge and  great group great dynamic very intense watch out i'm not sure how we got selected miraculously all seven of us showed up and so thank you will be back on the twenty first great if you  involves a group of us who are working on the sign by law update and through that process we have selected a consultant the community opportunities group to help us  developing the revision of the bylaws and next thursday january sixteenth at seven p m at the boyden public library community room there's going to be a foxboro signed by law a public workshop and the purpose of that workshop is to provide education on the signed by law process and the framework of the regulations to the public they are seeking input from the public as to any ideas  about consensus on good design principles what do people want to really see in terms of signage do you want to see electronic billboards do you want to see you know what is it that people are interested in they want they are working to get feedback from business community and residents regulatory and design issues and you know they are there to help us technically so this workshop is open to the public and we hope that people will attend and just share their thoughts on signage throughout the town any ideas that you have would be most appreciated so right now this is the day it is thursday january sixteenth seven p m at the board and public library community room thank you thank you  i can make a motion but i just want to clarify we doing this only for patriots home games correct on sundays only home games that start with you know what all the letters are the same look at the same letter with those same restrictions ok so i'll make a motion that we approve a and eleven o'clock opening for blue field bass pro shops on dates when the patriots are playing sunday home games in two thousand and fourteen believe so yes two or three a term on the design and review review board effective immediately second discussion all of them favor deposited in a library give fund second discussion always in favor and j g to your point we are going to meet on thursday with department heads and we're going to go over the gift letter and all of that so they'll start using it please come forward and bring your your attorney with you your husband were high school media center so st far from massachusetts an application for a transfer of an annual wine mall package to a license for shops as h a s incorporated doing business as j k corner store seventy two summer street foxboro massachusetts zero two zero two zero three five manager of second tower got a poly the premises a free standing two story building with a basement one front entrance and one side exit can give you a little background on the springbrook and then we can talk about it more from that as i think it's going to be some time yeah i figured it would be to go ok so if you recall back in the summer this first came up i mean it's been back and forth o clipping the people from the rank and we came up with a potential solution for that and then obviously because you're the road commissioners you need to vote on signage and no parking and things like that so we'll get into a more full discussion but essentially you know part of the east belcher road one side of the road is not parking already and the solution for spring break would be to have one side view no parking and the other side be parking during the business days on the weekends it's not as much of a problem because the businesses are open and a lot of the rink business is on the weekends so it allows for some overflow  and then it be more structured parking and and be easier for the police to go up there and you control it so that's hopefully the way it works out but some of the parties will probably be rank during overflow so we can talk about that and i think rich should be here you know unfortunately this was scheduled back on the night we had the snowstorm and so i'm not sure if all of them will be here i know i  rich to those in felix have kind of worked cooperatively to a certain degree in these employees they've been using rich's flight and we were waiting until rich's lot was usable because it was under construction and now they at least have a base coat and it's stripes so you can you know control the parking to a certain degree and i think rich expects that there may be an occasional overlap where they have a game that goes over a bit longer or they have a game i know they had one recently where they had i think it was mass feeling k p and so you had to surrounding towns and so they had a little bit of an overflow and most of the time it's on a weekend and there's not a lot of public traffic there so for the businesses that you know it doesn't turn into a problem but it's something you know we need discuss and you guys who make a decision based on that but i think the plan is good conceptually and you know they all have little things you may want to tweak here or there but the area that may be of concern and you'll have to make a decision after you hear the information is on the side of the road that abuts the rank and you know i'm sure all of you have been up in that area at some point in time and you know it's an hour road there's a lot of different business days a lot of truck traffic is a lot of construction sites up there and he had his vehicles up there which are large there are some other areas where there are big trucks and so safety is a concern so that's something you have to look at and make a decision but i think is interested in you know from the entrance of his rank down east beltre not towards go cast at the other direction he's interested in maintaining some abilities arc just during overflow situations so but policing may be an issue that's something we have to discuss as i was going to ask it has ed getting any feedback on how the traffic management plan is ever likes the idea and he you know he was part of the meeting as well and you know we if if there's a direction and he's given direction from you then he will you know send people of charles up there just to make sure that they're abiding by the the rules and regs but what once we get permission to put signage and things like that over roger hill had plans to strike that but he had done some work on a spring break road and he had to wait  not strike shortly after that and now we're into the winter months so why is it called of depends on your definition of calling yes but this tonight this is strictly discussion we're not making decisions well i mean you could if you know i think we're at a place where it's pretty well come to a head that you could make a decision because you know i think the plan is manageable and but we'll see if if they have any other ideas  coming yeah i think you know i think it has been a testament to the neighbors up there that they've tried to work together to the best they can and they've been situations where there has been overflow and you know ron i know has offered to allow his lot to be used by buses and things like that to accommodate some of the traffic issues but only the last month or so had they were really been able to see because it's now hockey season again and he actually a lot done where he has paved and before it was the construction site and it wasn't a lot of places to park so and it's the first season so he is you going to have a learning curve on ok now we have to go this way around and you know it's like a one way traffic kind of situation now where before you went in and out the same way so once he gets his teams educated then they know they have to go this route and it'll it'll work out it just a question of time has to go fly means so much we can talk about right think you know everything went pretty well we didn't have any major issues as far as i know and you know i think roger roger the staff to a very good job his supervisors have been here a long time know the  drill could do it without roger being there but you know right as soon as roger hears from the police on he gets a call from the fleet and if they get get a call about slick conditions and they're right out so they did they do a really good job i like to commend everything i heard was and i didn't hear of any complaints about people parking there not being able to get the trucks around i was up there friday during the snowstorm and you know i think i was the only car in the lot you know except for the town vehicles that were parked in town lost a lot of power the very last house the daven john wayne road last year was the last house to have power restored and i think the only house this year that lost power truck at the pole paul knocked out ripped the the board of selectmen acting as the local licensing authority pursuant to massachusetts general was chapter one forty section one eighty one and section one hundred three a in chapter one thirty six section four turner foxborough revised general bylaws article five section six and also stadium rules and regulations will conduct a public hearing on tuesday january seventh two thousand and fourteen beginning at seven thirty p m in the foxboro high school media center to review the application submitted by n p s unique scenario for us are both shows have gone on sale on the boat sold out so intimate attendance is fifty thousand the demographic for the show is unique in that it's even younger than taylor swift show so we're looking at a lot of parents guardians and and children even younger than we've seen in the past with that in mind we're going to operate the same parent pick up and drop off location that we've used for the taylor swift events that spawn well and we're also looking into potentially bringing the train on board and having them run to help with ease and traffic and to help with the first time at ten these are the stadium but that's something that we'll have to work through working with the m t a and d c s ex as well so the event start time is seven the gates are six and the parking lot will be established with chief larry chief hatfield later close to the event day the proposal in time is eleven fifteen which is for standard be seating is all reserved there isn't any general admission area there's to have north street access that they have asked for access on the street which i think is an issue but you know i think it's you know hopefully helpful because it could become pretty congested with the kids you know they drop o the building construction was something that commissioner casper had just wants to be a part of so that they establish you know basically the safety plans for the extensive construction up there and again the stadium is going to send out email communications to all ticket holders which i think is a good idea and something that you've established now as a protocol for for all events and based on that and both chiefs you know feel comfortable with it that we recommend for your approval based on conditions of being acceptable to the  highway has been non parking as far as i can remember springbrook road has not been designated is no parking but the conclusions that we reached in the discussions were that the side of blooding the ice or a rinks would be listed as parking with designated spots roger hill will strike those as a indicated earlier he was doing crack seal up there which happened in november and because that has to cure he was not able to get the striping done and now he can't strike at this point probably until the spring because you need to have like a fifty degree day or higher for an extended period time for the paint to dry and then the other side of spring break road would be designated no parking you know what riles developed that project in the he was in the area he still has land up there he's very concerned that with the way the parking is banned traffic flow obviously is a problem but also you can't grow grass and he wants it to look really nice and professional and you know i think everybody respects that and would like to see that as well so we thought as a group that this would be the best way to handle spring broke and it allow for the best traffic flow if you're a member of the  to stand that traffic flow and make the whole situation a lot better a lot more fluid if i may interject your own richest traffic yeah i noticed the other day that he has put up one way signs directing everybody out there direction not to come back through the front side of the building he also has temporary one way i was paid my ticket as well so yeah he's taking every step he can to make his traffic situation where to get it has not king philip was asked to boss the players and they didn't so he had twenty students drive over the cars plus spectators mansfield had four hundred spectators show up to the that but within an hour's time the traffic that overflowed on to springbrook and again this was on a saturday with an hour's time it was all the game was over getting with us and my concern as a business owner down there is more the monday through friday springbrook be kept as open as possible on the weekends it's a ghost town after four or five at night it's a ghost town and if there is an event we happens to have the overflow parking it only makes sense that you know they use it for the hour to laze needed ok so rich i've already filled them in that on spring break it's going to be parking on one side and not parking on the other side designate a parking areas on the side adjacent to the r g with no parking signs on the other side on east delta road currently it's the one sided jason to the highway there is no parking and i've indicated to them your concern that you have a certain area where they can  on weekends and what i've done is you know i work with any felix entry tactic to get the vehicles that were affecting the businesses on spring work road to have them parking o property during the business during the business days in the house and we found now with the high schools going on and basically it all has to deal with high school events and is probably about you know half a dozen to eight events a year that we have you know issues you know this past when we had an issue because of the snow and a lot of the lines in the parking here you know so people packing kind of erratic we had people packing people but they just the spaces were too big and everything else we found that you know parking on spring work has been safer and easier for people then on his belt you wrote we've worked with the police we haven't packed anybody's belt you wrote some people have parked there without us being there for their own you know they've been the first time they're going to see some class in the park and walk up but i just feel with the board i feel if we could utilize on off hours and on weekends probably sixty eight times a year if we could utilize both sides of spring work there would be more conducive than being our own he's built your road it point so i mean that's what i asked the board i mean i feel like i said i've i think i've gone above the help with his problem and helped to town on the flip side that by getting those vehicles off the other side that would have no parking during the business hours exactly and then on nights and weekends that would be available so summer and you have no problem with spring broke having just one and it's been working out fine my concern that i had prior to that agreement coming to fruition was the fact that forty fifty vehicles out there and then a fridge out of that with overflow parking we had a major cluster but it's actually sort we have no jurisdiction on the roads and sells everything that the planning board required enriching his site plan review he has done and it's it's working just as well as can be expected so unless i'm missing something it sounds like police fire d p w the business owners the planning board zoning board everyone's touched this over the last year and a half families and this is going back to before august as long as we're not stepping on the toes of the planning board as owning by doing this which i don't think we are i have no i think this seems like a good solution and i think until recently we haven't had a really good idea because as you indicated before you got here rich that your parking lot was just gone at the end of the summer fall time season really just starting a month or so ago was so he felt so yeah we were pretty busy all year around but it's just the high school events when you have students to frame least in that's when we have endure in high school games and you know fox sports play mansfield north adams play and you know someone else local then it just it's busy but it you know it hasn't been it's been a lot better than it was last year i can tell you like down in years past it's been a lot better you know we manipulated the schedule we have at least five packing tennis out it when we know we have problems come in rising in the police bit of police department's been there with details and it's work well it's you know other than you know we had you know one some people pack down the road the other day but it was like about ten times because they didn't know when we ended up moving them with them you know we had a pack in tennis make sure that they moved and they moved well there's no signs there at the moment so issue in the town involvement by restricting belcher prohibiting umbrella belcher and restricting on springs brooke only works if this agreement is signed with your business allowing another business tree tech to park on your property has this agreement been signed is not it's ok so if we do these if we prohibit restrict in this agreement is not signed it's not going to work because if we don't allow the the exhibit a lot one or a lot to that you're allowed to on the rings property doesn't happen you've got no place to go well i think we were you lost me i'm not a little bit as to why that wouldn't work i think the reason we know i'm saying if we if the town restricts prohibits the parking on belcher yes he's belcher and then restricts the springs brooke to one side and you're not allowed to park on the rink property per this agreement ok now the signs say no parking on the public right away where the trucks in your your employees going to park if the contract doesn't work out y this is may concern and he's concerned about the whole thing but he was concerned if he's belcher was going to be allowed parking at all now that riches agreed that we if we can do what we talked about on spring broke he would  you know the planning board was holding my bond and then it came out that it had to come from the selectmen it's like me wouldn't vote on it so the playing board released my bond back then but you know being there ten years now and seeing it is a   restrict parking on the south side of spring book two evenings and week ends only second discussion i wasn't there up and we still don't i would have if you could put on your website some of this information and you know allowed people to be a heads up that they show you some people you know it's every week a party you know same people so you want ok john thank you thank you thank investigation possible modifications that may may or may not be of some to heal your borders of all that's what i understood this night's meeting was about i mean actions to hear along with everybody else what if anything abed other discussions yes dick cindy and i have had one additional telephone conversation and then dick and i had another conversation but conversations relatively brief we were hoping to get together and talk live continues question we started back in december but when dickinson united spoke we talked in general terms about things that we could possibly do with respect to the physical layout of splitsville with respect to the number of patrons that could be admitted to the entertainment area and management of splitsville things of that nature you know some of them were really quite interesting in appealing to us others you need a little bit more explanation to be perfectly frank we have some suggestions that we can work with at this time but i think practically speaking the best way to handle it would be if possible to get together and and go through what's you know what's possible what what is really you know something that you really are interested in and and you're a good example of this for instances you know dickinson united talked about the possibility of having a wall to partition around the entertainment area but unfortunately i didn't bring any drawings with me i'm sorry for that but if you recall when this beautiful folks were here the the layout of the structure was basically to have  some bowling alleys and one portion that would be v i p oriented have roughly double the number of bowling area alleys in the opposite end of the complex and in the middle have an entertainment slash dining area with  could be the opening that would basically be the place where people would come in and be directed to what they wanted to do one of the thoughts that dick and cindy and i talked about was would it be possible to have some type of physical separation of the entertainment and dining area from the bowling alley area and we understand the concern having an actual physical separation we think would be a bit of a challenge but we can do things to limit the access of folks when they come in or when they're in the bowling alleys into the entertainment area when the whole of the moon entertainers are playing so we have those types of things that we believe are available we think are appealing but to really iron them out we probably should sit down with the drawing and talk it through and figure out exactly what you want and what we can do to make it happen i mean here at the table well you know we're pretty open minded whatever works best for you we can do it last time i was here i think the board voted to ask you and you just look and great to meet with us we're happy to do that if you're able to do it would be wonderful if you could suggest dates and times at all coordinate with the folks from our slinging going around i figured it's best to do an open and transparent here at the table no way bodies and look everybody so you have going on and i don't see that there's any reason and it is a board member that just does agree with me feel free to speak up that i mean it's been three or four weeks now i thought that we were all getting together tonight to discuss some kind of compromise with this board would maybe vote to reconsider to have another public hearing but i guess that's wrong  with that well i you know obviously there's some level of confusion here might my understanding after the last meeting and i've been here for every meeting except for the one on the thirtieth but my understanding after the last meeting was that we would get together with someone from the board of selectmen and actually have this discussion that i'm talking about where you could make suggestions to us about how you'd like to condition the license and we can make suggestions back about what we can do we're prepared to do that cindy and i have had discussions and you know at that level you know lawyers have had discussions i think you'd be most beneficial if we could actually have someone from your board participate in those discussions i had actually instructed town i don't know what's confusing about that i really don't i didn't receive that message so i'm sorry then why are we here i mean i go in turn a gallon and tell me that  we have exchanged thoughts about how to restrict the license but i was really under the impression that we were going to get together with slick and gray and and talk you know continue discussion in this the third time you said that  it's going to be the third time i said that i instructed tell counsel that that was not going to happen and that he needs to reach out to you have you be prepared to come here on the thirtieth i mean the seventh which is today and have an open transparent discussion about are you prepared to do that tonight you know clearly not right then generally if i could you know i also received the notice today that there's an appeal scheduled for march of it's it's going to be one cooper you want to reply to that to go on i don't know what i'm replying to i asked him to reach out to you if you did to come here on the seventh with his consistency you wanted to and what i've just been saying is that i was under the impression that at some point in time based upon my last attendance here at one of these meetings that we were going to sit down with select and gray and talk through the alternatives and figure out if there was some common ground and evidently  that's not going to happen and what should what i should have done is come here with with some type of proposals about what we would be prepared to do and quite frankly there's there's been some miscommunication is is you know we s directed i not tell you i forget the date at this point in time i think it was prior we almost a week prior to christmas that there would be no more separate meetings at all trance because he would be here at the table and that you shouldn't and what i've told them is that you discussed some concepts that you use in the i discuss concepts and i went back and talked to the folks that splitsville and held the moon about them and we have some you know alternatives but i really thought the idea was to talk about them offline get some general understanding about what would be acceptable and then present that to the blog and make it clear now that there will be no law no offline discussions everything will be done here at the table and  going to have the discussions here at this table because i'm sick of people accusing the board of open meeting law violations because we went to this meeting or that meeting or this mean that meeting so it's all going to be done here that's it i guess that's the end of this we've had this discussion you and i have had it i know i spoke to dan murphy last week and tell him that was all it was going to be and he told me geez we didn't know about this well you know we've been talking about this for two weeks that they had to come ready to make a presentation today and i think all due respect this is going to be at the last public session here the last time i was here before the board of selectmen the two prior times that i was here and there was a contrary discussion with w discussion again this is getting ridiculous i made it perfectly clear to town council to tell me and you to come in and expect a presentation tonight the board was amendable so that we could help possibly have a reconsider splitsville this is not what we're having tonight but we haven't he said she said thing it's very transparent this is why it's going to be open and transparent from the public so everybody can see that we're not doing anything behind the scenes to make anything different and that's it  this is getting ridiculous all right but can i just say something you know i mean there are there are things that are presented on the sheet and suggestions i guess from the board as the other board members but two of my issues that  concerned about we're trying to appease the craft group here that's what the board is trying to read a little bit you know possibly see if we want to reconsider this i've given you opportunity it's been well over a month and a half and here we are if i could speak i'd like to say the following we do appreciate your opportunity that you're providing to us but having said that there's been some confusion here i mean going back to november the board voted five zero that we should twice you're trying to get my goat and then going to happen we voted yes and then it was told to us by council that we cannot do that so we're not going to continue that and i made council talk to you very clearly and state john gray met with you only once and then the discussion got further and i said ok enough of that discussion we're going to have it here at the table and open it we're not going to do that i'm not going to keep you know i'm done with  just even take a breath for a second if if dick if you're going to be if you guys are going to be meeting i guess over the next two weeks now we received a memo from dick which i think is the directive that you received from the collaboratively or what you heard from the meeting sounds like you went in did meet with the kraft group and you gave us eleven or twelve bullet items so let's just briefly go over those if there's other things that the board wants to add or subtract from those or put their hands up and say i'm done or you can say this is great let's approve it next meeting so i think but how do we tell deck to go meet with the craft and come back with something when no one's had  prepared to listen for fuel source him just under one drink before we even invest in calories in this discussion should we have a motion to reconsider where should we only reconsider after we hear their proposal that's what i thought they were going to bring cover are you prepared to bring something in front no because i don't think he's hearing what he should be bringing in front of us and he got a pretty clear they should be bringing the best and final proposal the proposal from the one they already brought to us that we rejected they should be coming back with an i know you've a clear on what changes you need to make to bring about breast best and brightest forward i don't just try to put it on the table so least there's something to was some of the issues that dick had heard from all the members anything that he wanted to bring to the attention of the craft group that may make the application a better application dick as far as i know because i get it at the meeting the issues were discussed but you also talk to them so subsequently and laid out some of those issues as a result a memo was sent to all the members about things that they could address and i my thought was that they were going to have presentations based on that memorandum in the end is that what you understood as well as a bit but two things that maybe that maybe the difference here is that i've not here is not supposed to be what was initially discussed with the craft but after talking with craft things that we felt right wrong or otherwise may still be items that could be discussed so there were some things that were ways that were clear were not going to go anywhere and didn't make it to this document that we think well i think those should be made public we can still you can still have that discussion when it comes if we have a meeting i thought we were having a night that we would have everybody talking about what they would consider now do you think public  the room i will clear the room if anybody else interrupts join you know the original application as submitted we digested reviewed we discussed and that was rejected and we have our literally blown reasons which was submitted back to you and i expected that in order to satisfy our concerns from the letter of reason statement reasons that you would come back with an amended proposal similar you know similar in scope to the first addressing our concerns that's that's what i expected to happen i expected a presentation tonight of some source with some and then we're going to go through a revised and say oh it would the boy to have a nice conversation with the board like to have  reconsideration vote for that that's what i plan on voting on tonight i would have made a motion to the board like to reconsider i would hope to get a second quick discussion maybe a meeting in two weeks or setting up a public hearing that's not what's happening this is just ridiculous ok mark so let's give everyone the benefit of the doubt just say it was just confusion i don't believe it's confusion i think it's just so i think the board is being played right now and i'm not standing for this discussion is over dick you should meet with used to cory discuss what we talked about before and if they want to set up a time when they're ready to have a presentation in front of this board and transparency with the problem we will do so there mean i understand you want to read off the list that's fine if you want to go to a list is fine but he's already stated three times he was not really did you have this discussion tonight and is i don't see where the confusion allowed i'd like to say the following we appreciate your efforts we do we have left here after the last two board of selectmen meetings thinking one thing that we were going to meet and discuss things i've had discussions with begin with cindi i understand a lot about what this board seems to be looking for we're prepared to talk about those i'm not in the position right now because i was operating under a different assumption than evidently i should have been operating under but we have a lot of common information that we could share that could actually be beneficial to splitsville to patriot place and to the town of foxborough we're looking at an appeal that's going to go forward in march that quite frankly is going to cost all of us a lot of time money and effort that we would prefer not to do we really would we'd like to get on with the business i think if you want if you don't mind if you could spend a couple of minutes going through this list i will tell you in general what what we are having difficulty with what we're not having difficulty with that will allow me to come back here if you allow it at a meeting two weeks hence with a presentation for you now that i understand what you're looking for if you can just give me some guidance about this i can probably come back here with an effective presentation it's different with than what i was expecting today i'm sorry but it is different than what i was expecting today jim you want to read the list that we have w him ok so this is from what i understand the results of your efforts getting input from individually taking it back go into it in the best that you guys c of the license conditions limit the size of khalid the moon venue and otherwise segregated from general public installing glass area dividers limit access to the general public through floor plan layout and use a concierge to check patron identification limit live music it tame into thursday through saturday evenings and further define the entertainment to be presented change the proposed manager of liquor license so that the person is an employee of splitsville rather than how with the mo limit the number of people allowed at hollow and at the moon impose more stringent requirements on the size of the drinks pitchers then set forth in the rules i e prohibit jello shots increase the penalties for violations restrictions etc and that was attached to david investors from braintree i think was attached to this consider shorter hours of operation so i mean this is a list of twelve things that could be twenty things that could be five things but in order to get the most out of the biggest bang for the buck over the next two let's talk about this and if it's a nonstarter we tell him if we're going to add to it we tell him if we want to take from it now's the time to put it on if we have something that was relayed to the attorney and didn't get on the list or got stricken from the list because it was a nonstarter ask him why it's a nonstarter and maybe insist that it's a starter but not to have this dialogue with a march twelfth appeal open meeting violation complaints complaints that we're dealing with so putting it off two weeks and sitting here like this and fighting about it is not going to do any body any good so maybe we can spend fifteen minutes and get some basis for this and  had submitted and i'll explain why i submitted them the first thing i submitted was to drop how the moon completely from the plant because you were presenting it as splitsville splitsville has its own l splitsville presented itself as being a bit able to stand alone very successful country but the reason that i thought that how the moon was not appropriate is because the  restaurant lounge with a bowling thing but it's a sit down basically sit down where how the moon is more like a nightclub and we had agreed five to nothing that we would not want to have a nightclub then use up there and that's why i asked that the moon be dropped from the supposedly very successful splitsville plan successful in other areas in in addition where it seems that the town of foxborough really wants bowling alleys i suggested that maybe they add a few more bowling alleys to take up the space where howl at the moon would be that way you would still have what everybody seems to want is a bowling alley because that seems to be what is being pushed in splitsville so my things what eliminate  last year yes this was last year i don't think it was a vote taken five to note that i think it was a discussion in contacts to this to bill boards and receiving money and there was a list of clarify the there was a collective discussion in i think was the consensus i don't think there was a vote either but there was a consensus of the board that they had no appetite for my clips correct correct but it was but it was in context to a bigger picture wasn't it wasn't do we good in terms of your opinion of what we should do and so we we took this discussion and we tried to figure out ways to minimize the hell of the mood influence and maximize the splitsville experience and so you know the types of things that we we think we can do to further that are are actually on here so one of the things talks about limit access to the general public through the floor plan layout and use of a concert is to check patron dedication we can do that or the game plan is to have a concierge station so that people come in and get directed to the place they want to be directed to we were really looking at this and saying three nights a week we're going to have held the moon entertainers  playing the entertainment stage when they are playing and you know just arbitrarily i think it will be nine p m till closing time during that period of time we will control who gains access to that entertainment area and and limit the number of patrons that get in there i'm not exactly sure how many patrons you want to have as the maximum number accessing that area and that's one of the things that i wanted to talk about but the concept of having a concierge and having limited access to the whole of the moon entertainment area when it is held them in entertainment we're on board for during the other periods of time so on a tuesday afternoon when no one is really playing on the stage we'd like to have free flow of guests among the different this discussion and now we're having you know i'm sorry mark i'm i'm trying to be clear i'm not prepared to make a presentation i wasn't expected to do that but i do like the idea of having a discussion and trying to further how we can come back to you with a plan for for gaining your approval so if you don't mind i'd love to do that and i do think we have a lot more commonality that we may think another example is change the proposed manager of the liquor license you know we can do that we talked about doing that we have a splitsville assist manager who is prepared to move up here it's going to take a little bit of time for this person to get from bill you with the commonwealth of massachusetts rules and regulations but i'm told that they're prepared to have club here and have him do that have him get familiar with the town of foxborough regulations and have him be the manager of record so we can do that in your original discussions that that was what was going to do so this isn't a concession you told us really sorry what i'm trying to do is address the the issues on the table the application we submitted back in october had paul wholly and as the matter of record and through this process we've learned that that's not the type of thing that you'd prefer and so what i'm talking about is from day one we won't have mr holy and as the manager will just go ahead and bring forward the plan of having this puts bill manager and have that person be the manager of record from day one so i do think that is a concession but most importantly we're trying to figure out you know what we can do to make this a better application for you and i think that's one of the things you're looking for is you know change mr wholly and out and put in his splitsville manager by the way did any of the board of select suggest that if those are the suggestions where the board select and no one suggested that particular item when that come from i don't know what was on the list was this is not my list talk about limiting the number of people we we can one of the items that we're having little difficulty with is the glass partition this is the second item which is having some physical separation from the bowling space in the entertainment space and given the fact that most of the time in your typical tuesday afternoon we're hoping to have a holistic space where there is free flow of of patrons we'd prefer not to have fixed partitions what we're hoping to do is to control the access to the till closing time thursday through saturday but during the other times we'd like to be able to remove those temporary partitions and have the free flow of patrons throughout the space so hopefully that addresses your concern it also allows us to operate the businesses we'd like to be able to do see what's palatable they still would say and come back and see the board book reconsider if any of the members have any additional items they want to get to dick if you could do that in the