way and seventeen spaces in their meeting or parking requirement i want to point out that pierce county council back in december of twenty eighteen green to a five foot modification t endorse is that once again we work with the courtney's beyond that which we would normally do and give them an opportunity to in fact present that statement of  july of two thousand and seventeen mr courtney as part of a construction appeals board had indicated that in his opinion that this building would cost seven hundred thousand dollars to build i think that quite frankly that that's a very conservative estimate of what it would cost but what he also said in addition to that was that when the time came in we needed to be able to project generally what we do is we defer to the solicitor you could you could have a lot of credit you could have a loan documents that show that you have acquired funds to be able to undertake that project this yet to ascertain whether they're appropriate and said so i'm here as solicitor for the township we're not arguing over necessarily at this time the form of what that looks like we don't have anything to look at so what we don't want the ordinance to read is very narrow so we wanted to be as broad as possible in terms of the financial ability whatever form that might take and so that's why i was asked that i just take a look at it for instance i've been involved in  transaction if you're going to purchase a home for the cash transaction the seller want proof of funds you know prove that you can go through with the project of something comparable to that they may not have the cash they may have loaned docs other app can sort of come through the challenge but think of giving letters o credit or statements from the bank so we know that they may not take one particular form and in this instance attach a basket and i think in other instances has asked that i look at that form their argument is that they don't believe their counsel can speak to that that they don't have to submit that information the problem we have any absence of that information we don't believe the project will go forward or can go forward and regardless this is part of peter's township the ordinance it's not something that we're conditioning in so much as this is a law on the books that no one in this room has the ability to waive i mean it we just have to follow that proper vision so that's the township's position it take you back to april twenty seventh teen our building inspector found this property as is dangerous and unsafe need to be demolished immediately so the idea that if something could get approved then there is no money to do the project i think the statement was we would do it asap or do you have the financial wherewithal to do that in the absence of that the dangerous condition cannot be abated it will just continue to sit and sit and sit and that's why on a parallel track we've asked to or to attempt to try to demolish the building unless they can move forward with doing the project that they've shown your tonight there are two possible provisions under which the township could require the financial information that they are looking for one is under the subdivision and  element provision and i would argue that this project does not meet that this is an existing building and it's being renovated so i would argue that that provision does not apply if you want to look at the guarantee of lot improvements i would still argue that that's meant to be lots and subdivisions once again this is the renovation of an existing building and frankly it looks to me like under that particular organ and that the requirement of financial ability is not doesn't come into play in till a year after the building permit has been issued so i think argument that would be that the court is wish to pursue this is not the venue for that argument that's an argument to be taken up and in court the ordinance as far as we concern or could is clear in applicable to the situation and again township's position that this approval should not occur without some provision or condition that that be submitted and in fact it should have been submitted before this was ever considered by the planning commission but in an attempt to accommodate the courtney's we have at my suggestion had this placed on your agenda tonight so well i just it's also clear th have put forth several times that they would happily start on the demolition of the building immediately if the township with a provisional permit to allow them to do that and the township was not willing to consider that can require that statement of financial capability and it's not before anything's anything prepared to come in tomorrow for a demolition permit for that entire structure we'd be happy to issue it because if he doesn't this prove this project doesn't move forward the townships prepared to have that ability in addition if i might add the initial letter that the building inspector sent to the courtney's was requesting that they demolish the building and if they didn't do so then the township to take the steps to move forward on its own clean the building to satisfy those demolition costs so from day one the  property made its code that the courtney's actually demolished the building that was almost two years ago in april and it's this is a parallel track that they've taken to move forward with trying to build on that to build a structure on the building on the site but it doesn't negate the financial ability which are required in all cycling applications i'll just comment once again we in our meetings and discussions they have put forth that they would happily especially in light of the fact that they need to cool down at second floor in any way  if we if a number came in and they showed this is what we think the project will cost obviously we have if we need to call upon engineers or someone to look at that to see if that number's consistent we can do that i'm to see if that meets it we're not there yet we're not haggling over the amount i don't know that they've ever put a price tag on us other than mr lauer testified to was that seven hundred thousand dollars figure back in twenty seven thousand so we don't know that they have dollar one to move is going to be is that to be based on that it's going to be significantly less than the building mr courtney talked about a year and a half ago because it's a much smaller building at this point i guess my question then becomes wouldn't it be more fair to wait until the site the end was approved so they can get the building i mean it doesn't even make sense for them if the slightly and not never going to get approved to me to go to the expense of yet more building plan developed in this building and we are in possession of those it would be easy to estimate the construction cost of that and i actually believe that if you were to do that what you would discover is that it would be more than seven hundred thousand dollars because if you look at the square footage of this structure and simply do you know the man out to the at seven hundred thousand dollars that square foot construction cost would be very low so i think it is that is something that is certainly possible be done even if it was done on a a  demonstrate compliance with the financial capability within seven days i'm giving them an extension of time with mr lauer indicated was normally we would even let it get this far to you because that shortcoming is a prerequisite for the site plan if someone comes  a project it remains and you see no comment yet from the applicants as to other than we want to start immediately as were your money is it through a lender what do you have lined up to start immediately that information that we're not requiring you to are picking on them that's the information required are applicants and we get them we get the line of credits we get the bank statements we get whatever they provide we're not we're just treating them the same way and here they can speak to you as to what is it do they what we have caching give us a bank statement said there should be available cash on hand or we have cash and a loan place whatever and that's what we have to evaluate because again this is not one of those situation where we're adding a condition particular to the site