iowa seven thoughts on obviously significant design change and it people are kind of saying oh they're really just steering it more towards matching what google looks like they enjoyed stuff looks like in windows phone looks like system that's pretty cool i got the phone is gold right you must write awesome or the need for space gray that's not black is able to get space gray gold but the biggest feature they're hiding or people are they don't also upgrading your previous editions it amazes me the infatuation kids out that day downloading it when it came down it's going to take four hours to download kids you're on a public school network everybody it in the school is downloading it at the same time might relax for ten minutes set it to run over night watch some youtube videos of the crazies and learn about it for you have to have it right packaging something into their they're on top as coke was they see this strong upstart coming and they say oh look at this everybody's like in these flatter designs this more simplistic looking design so we're going to change what we do best and change it to something to match somebody who's not got the market share that we have to just call sandstone and start you know well the sector to borrow and yet another top of the reference obviously it didn't hurt coke i mean they got some bad press for a short period of time then they were smart to go wait a minute why don't we keep this new coke and bring back classic and make readers and then talk to and then go back and now of course pepsi has the super super duper sugar edition of their pepsi products and we'll show you real sugar when you have to advertise that it was real so i'm concerned so that's  speculation and so i'm going to try really hard to continue with that line so i believe that as far as phone o s s go we're in the call of days where there's nothing there's nothing different between it's just a matter of preference anymore  we're at such a mature process now of that of the phones that it's i mean it's funny they just earlier talk about the speed how much faster the phone is and the can is a funny we've gotten to that point where you know phone used to just make a phone call and you never would have thought what's what's better not and i think it's you know the android phones if i get to the point where they're comparable to iowa and i think now it's it truly is just a matter of preference and you know it's interesting is that before these things before these phones became so comparable and sort of just tradeoffs and certain features it used to be about the carrier that you purchased it's easier for us to get clear cut lines on what the phone can coke that's the thing the marketing for the phone companies is they're selling the phones now they're services all right so that's sort of puts them on the back where they can you know nobody ever looks anymore that we complain about stuff and get new phone i'll stay into this c why you're good you should just  yeah well and not to beat apple down here because i like to do never we don't do that but the loving show i think we're talking about this pre show about how you know apple's always been the luxury brand on the expensive brand and then they also became the most popular and so i sometimes think that those two kind of collide that you can't be this niche expensive luxury brand and also be but just out about the regular world and use whereas i used to always say it was eighty five ninety percent i phones everywhere now i'd say it's about half and the other half is starting to be samsung phones everywhere and i and you know apple can make these great profits because they control the market share they can charge they can get suppliers to supply them with stuff it's the whole wal mart theory and you get suppliers or whatever they want right lease wal mart in the sense of the pricing but i'm going there for a lower price i'm not going there for a great service apple has the cool factor or the affection factor but i think still you know you're saying half and half i'm not seeing that representative at all and even outside of peter's like i was walking around the other day downtown and i saw for the studio and flipping through i phone i mean that's that it's that kind of move toward it and i don't that their their theory is that apple's kind of lost its cache with the younger generation has it's been watered down so much it's heard about it for so long and now that there isn't much differentiation  it will be faster at least in the phone market and so as you point out many many many times that apple has to then now move on to that market i think there's there's not there's money to be made still but i think that that's going to be shrinking because all these low cut low cost phones that are of almost comparable quality are going to start to eat away that that market and they're going to have to find something else somewhere else to make their billions in apple's mind truly pushing them to have to drop down a price they have something now it's not going to cost them anymore there you have a plastic phone in the lineup of people already accepting it's not going to be as if we're offering them a cheaper alternative can offer this great phone at a lower so that's a long time so if i'm nurturing her i'm a different person nurturing her own apple that's a six year old most of these kids probably parents are probably a little bit older than me not a lot older than me and i would guess of our peers or your gen x or you  six are being nurtured on this apple then kids a little bit older than me my guess is a lot of those gen y people see them gary and i phones they have those and i don't know what kind of phone you have indra but a lot of those kids still have them so that they're still being nurtured are carried over a lot of product those kids are buying or having invested in them is in that apple dominated sphere they're using apple software they're investing in apple things it's asking someone to people are now starting to get to the point because because there's not much change that they're going to jump on based on the phone that they like and they like this i like that i like this feature or whatever and i think people in the next few years are going to be not as brand have that implication but my guess is it'll also they'll also charge for it so if you're jumping over fifty you can still retain all of your music or whatever in that other format but a few things it found ways around i know google for free what i think is and so my question is these pay walls that are cropping up and i thought it was great in the post cause that's press release that they compare themselves to well the trend is all these all these papers are going to it like for instance the new york times just the death of newspapers or is going to breathe a giant revenue stream into newspapers well i think i think the rest are you know what you choke i think that was the nation's been waiting for the store to come out to see what the pittsburgh post was going to do so they can line market but they're going about the wrong way and there's plenty of successful web sites that proven successful ways that you don't have to charge people you don't charge a user you charge people that want to contact your users and want to get information from users there's plenty of different ways to do that on advertisers exactly what i mean if you have advertisers generic companies a search engine that you're selling information to all that kind of stuff or even all the videos the whole purpose or one of the great features of having an online syndicate is that now you anyway i mean this is life support that it's the cheapest route to an alternative it's going to die one way or the other the physical paper i think it's pretty close because that is going to go away and if it  continues to exist it'll be a reproduction of or an affiliate of some other giant newspaper conglomerate who will have some usa today affiliate with offices in the pittsburgh area where they report tiny things i mean i'm not going to go to  this independent segment find information they can already get on three local network channels somewhere else will be under the umbrella of giant the news conglomerate that when i say newspaper i mean the news conglomerate and they'll have subsidiaries with instead of fifty reporters with this big area they'll have five and they'll send them out of the big stories allee i mean if you count all the major news media three television news media and trained of three newspaper affiliates where people going to find their news are they going to the observer reporter site i survivability at last as long as the value of that and they win that name goes away that value of that company goes away to do this to so they can survive to get by well and i know there's been a lot of people online have written interesting looking at this in big picture terms as far as does content have value does it have monetary value you know these newspapers were basically give this stuff away for free seniors or whatever and now suddenly they're like oh what you've been getting for free now you're going to charge and talking about that whole idea of that content is not what you're selling but there's whether surprised me about the observer report on so many they cut their staff back so small that so many of the online stories were just the a p news reels and i are going to charge me for something that is in every paper in the country that exact same wording the exact same thing and write all you news story of interest and most people are probably getting their news on facebook twitter whenever they see something a link and you just search for it and i think the bigger question is how did newspapers get to the point as soon as they started their online indications are that should be free what made them think that was a good idea when they're offering a physical copy for a premium they've always done it this way they've always been the  everybody's doing it we want to get posters that dot com out there we'll take everything that's in the paper ads and all and then we'll start saying oh by the way you're also going to front of us many eyeballs were in charge ad rates higher well i also thought those are two different market shares i mean someone who gets the newspaper i mean i can't think of anyone who gets the newspaper every day but a person who gets the newspaper every day is probably some day planner and some people still get that sunday papers about a story that's an exception but a person with a newspaper every day that's well they're going on dang it we need an online things or something else it just out there it just seems like as initiatives just a huge oversight on so many things now it's understandable that's hard only hard to forecast the internet when these people are coming out with their websites but the same time you have to think somebody somewhere along the line would have been like wait a minute maybe there was a failure of an online charging everything they did charge i don't know when infancy as opposed to that and no one bought it you know like a charm not has a decidedly more conservative type audience so there's a market automatically for that but i think people will speak with their dollars that you know if you want to continue to have local news you know it's almost going to become like the perhaps news can do but i don't think you're ever going to get you know obviously it's ringing like crazy you're never going to have enough support to think for people to go on i don't have a turn out one is going to throw this one out give beans in a race or button so and so the state of california up feels that teens are making a lot of mistakes online that could hurt them down the road and so they're going to force  starting twenty fifteen i guess so they're going to try to force sites that are geared towards minors to allow minors to then go back in when they get older and erase things that they posted about themselves we didn't lie just in california has officially invented a time machine that is stupid beyond compare what i see there's lots of things that make it stupid to me what specifically you can't do that can't happen it's just legislators not understanding how the internet works yes i mean year i mean i should kids all the time and i probably show these kids here in this room this website for my high school ten year reunion which is in two thousand the site was shut down in two thousand one gone for twelve years if you look on it i can't find it changing their profiles anybody can see that they're away messages and it's kind of that kind of that that sense to me is people would write stupid things and that because they can just drastically change oh no i didn't write that no that's ok you're still getting it out there voice an opinion knowing that you can change  so somebody sees it going the same thing with these kind of things they're going to they're going to write hateful things or do things that they normally wouldn't have with the idea or the rationale that ok take it off not just in the only that one person that i want to see saw in a job interview that you know and i my big problem with this is it's like we talked about with one snap chat dave you should if you're giving people a security blanket that doesn't really exist and that is why i laugh about it but it makes me sad too because it makes me think that you're duping an entire audience that doesn't understand the words of the internet and believes that you know let's face it every single thing that has ever typed goes through public servers it's out there it can be told it can be whatever they can get it whoever whoever can can retrieve it and i prefer to see that money and that effort go to teaching people to be good digital citizens as opposed to saying oh you're refined do whatever you want  up later those are lifelong lessons not a lesson they had fifteen minutes seminar power point so that's it prisoners was number one by the way last week or this past weekend sorry a three is coming out on