is something that i think is going to really hit home with a lot of people because it's so prevalent anymore doctor say bo is a breast cancer surgeon and we're going to talk about breast cancer today what some of the causes of breast cancer are and as a surgeon in beverly hills area yes over the years that you were practicing you saw a lot of people coming in that had breast cancer i saw a lot of people and i saw a young so used to be in the days gone in the past where you were a bit older before you had diagnosed with breast cancer and suddenly you saw people coming in that were younger what association did you make with that well with a lot of my thinking back on it as a cancer surgeon you know always believed that character comes in breast cancer is number one killer in moment this has changed now and i believe personally that there are multiple factors one being your tradition one being a lifestyle and environmental factors on top of you know whether or not you have family history or not there's a genetic so and so when you talk about nutrition are you talking about the lack of quality nutrition it's both it's basically eating a lot of processed foods was my own observation ok said in my own beliefs and it away i had to educate my patients in a different method i believe it or not these are it's not it's not you know as a surgeon you always there is that old saying not all surges believe in this is when in doubt cut it out yeah right i think you're exactly exactly so i had to kind of change my mindset and also try to educate m sions and some of my patients who are educated me they're ones that are more in tune with their body and they're with a holistic approach is to medicine and healing and early on i truly believe that you know we are our own educated people they're very bright people you don't because you don't have a degree like that without having the ability to assimilate in and utilize the and they should be treated and not everybody can do it now not everybody can be a surgeon not everybody can be have a medical degree and but but what happens is that sometimes i think the physicians think of themself to be a doctor gods or something you know and then people see them that way and so they become the authority and you never question your doctor and i say you know you would question your mechanic mechanic you would question your plumber you question your doctor and they're giving you an opinion based on perception based on education based on experience but it doesn't necessarily mean that's the right thing and so you get a diagnosis from a medical provider and it's something that doesn't sound right or even if it sounds ok and you're suspicious because you have symptoms that aren't going away you need to go to somebody else and have them do evaluation and see what their opinion isn't and sometimes even say a third opinion is warranted sometimes you know also it's doctor's orders but what does that mean you know so so you were taught important to know what changes you can get or you can make it within yourself to prevent that hopefully in your filter and that's the big key prevention prevention you don't want to be reactive  as a surgeon i've always been reactive and i still am i still believe it you know if there's a tumor growth and it's red my allopathy training and says that you do have to decrease tumor load i don't want to make it about breast cancer i believe personally day should be about breast health if that's so i said which is really strange because you know everybody jumps the bandwagon now and says pink ribbon pink for this kind exactly sure nothing is being cured all the monies in funding is going through a billion dollars a year well the costs of operating such big events and it's strange because people tell me well your breast surgeon i said yeah you know i might not have a job but i really want to my passion was in finding or helping women to prevent the disease by the time you need me i believe it's already too late cancer is very very high and i think that goes back to the point work emo therapy radiation kill daughter cells of data don't kill the stem cells and as long as that stem cells in there there's the potential for future cancer and then you can use carcinogenic asians radiation chemotherapy or cancer patients that is that is correct but at this point that's what's available to us who are you know that's what  available they are there but the reason and i wanted to tell you a little story about myself when i was a medical student i actually met one of my first patients who had breast cancer  she was very young she had advanced or pretty aggressive breast cancer which tends to be the case when you're younger you don't get the right a male slow growing breast cancer as you get a more aggressive type  she decided not to have any type of surgical or i think our western medicine treatment and it went to a retreat for holistic healing and unfortunately six months later she was back with pretty disseminated most addict is and eventually died from it it is ease that propelled me into going into surgical care and also sealed my fa i always loved surgery to become a breast surgeon i go to become very friendly with that person and because of her young age i was very moved and affected by her passing so it away i do agree that they're all true but i think it should be a combination you should marry western medicine with the natural route i believe that your immune system failing is one of the causes that it doesn't have to see the cancer cells growing within your body so boost amused system but once it's already at the stage that is spread all over at this point we have no choice kind of reverse it may but i'd this point i don't know to what extent you could be prepared i'd see any damage to the kind of put that stops stop or depreciate back into the system  i think that medicine is wonderful i mean i worked and gave up a lot to get my degree and you did as well you know people don't realize how difficult and how demanding medical school was and your life is not your own for a number of years yes and when i look back and what i did and i had a great time doing it but when i look back i don't know how how because you were you were always on you were never off and you used to have to go through periods of time where you don't even sleep at rid of it you have a car accident you break your leg you know i'm certain i can go some health food you know or to fix my leg capsule you know i may do some things as the repair but i won't i'm going to medicine to do that but the problem is we we've become this so active that we violate all the rules of nature and all the rules that our bodies should be supported by and then we get a disease and we say fix me i want to pill or i want you know i got a hangnail take my  know what i mean and i think that's wrong and i think you and myself included and have seen both sides of the table and there are some people that are just all natural they only accept the one side some people of how they can only accept the one side and and give me a pill you know well there's not one prescription pill that cures anything not now not even in a bottle no absolutely right and they're all talk sick as they're so concentrated in their synthetic and so forth but i what i see is when you support the body the body heals itself not not the supplement not not not the the p o s the prescription pill but we violate that so in this dynamic change  i think you are of a unique group that's coming about this in the recent years i've seen a few other physicians are starting to say hey i think i think it is i think there is a small but strong  steady movement to kind of think about the whole concept because like you said you go through medicine the whole time in training being trained to react and being trained to well you broke your arm and i have to fix it so you're always basically fixing a repairing something nobody talks about how you can prevent that you know where helmet or w and she was every bit of one hundred fifty two hundred pounds overweight and we were we were sitting in in the room and we were speechless and you know for medical students to be speechless that's that's a whole nother issue there and she looked at us and we started to actually go because there's a person who's way overweight obese is the word and she's going to tell us what about nutrition and she said don't do what i do do what i say well that was that was helpful i was terrible you know i didn't learn about nutrition until years and years later course i bought in there all my training you know here's fluoride here's whatever whatever we had to do to be reactive to fix the problem  and dentistry itself has probably a bigger component of preventative medicine than than most guys ask but nutrition i think is key because we don't support the body the body doesn't have to have the nutrients to keep the repair and keep it in a in check and then we do all these things and you were on previous shows talking about animal whose toothpaste that you've made in human toothpaste without all the talks in athens and so forth  time that we're doing something like that were affecting our d n a we're changing our the chemical structure of our cells and we do it with food because our food is you know we want fast food convenient i don't mean restaurant fast food i'm and we have to take steps to do that there that's true absolutely even it's like a whole attack with your whole body system but didn't you have to do practice things when i talk to my breast cancer patients i tell them their lifestyle modification is a very important part of breast health basically like you said regular exercise been shown to decrease risk of breast cancer you go and in most physicians office that treat with chemotherapy because chemotherapy so harsh and we know is harsh it is on the body and the energy falls they have chocolate and candy sitting on the counter to boost trainers your energy to  twenty times more sugar is absorbed in a tumor than it is in an average cell and they can they can then photograph the cell thank the tumor cells exactly so why is that cancerous tumor cells zorba and all that sugar and sugar has nothing to do with cancer it's in full of natural like protein that is lean and a lot of the use in vegetables is a great great diet but some all of oils as fat and avocado which is a great thing other things that i and talked about oranges for example all these fruits and vegetables are picked before they're right yes and we have them we basically the group brought to market and we basically have something that isn't the way it used to be if you would let it ripen in your backyard where you have the fortune locally grown locally grown supporting your local farmers and getting that is the most important thing and i think that by self can change the whole health and preventative aspects within your life and i think that's a that's a very potent the main you know what what what do you think the influence of the thyroid is on can with overholt hello relationship whole  with my experience i mean i haven't had a lot of experience as far as the thyroid health goes but i know that the whole mechanism of stress effecting  suppressing your hormones system in your thigh or frog shed has effected and there is a direct relationship with increased stress increased best cancerous have you seen cancer patients coming into your office answer but it wasn't overwhelmingly so that i could correlate it to that personally at a personal experience i didn't see it i've done a lot of study and training and it's really interesting the correlation were electric yes ourselves function utilizing glucose and so forth and where they were heavier thinner whatever all that is you know i've seen people with hypothyroidism most are when they were very thin so there isn't it isn't always that you know but what happens here is  your thyroid controls voltage and your cell voltage holds oxygen when your cells or when your timer is functioning normally the cells hold the normal voltage and hold oxygen and we know the cancer can't live an  know we have enough research at this point to say that there's direct correlation there is a direct correlation with kay said stress levels which also cared mean lack of sleep which undiagnosed and which would be a great yes and your study in my opinion you don't have cancer if you have you have cancer when you look them functioning thyroid you want to have cancer with a with a normal functioning thyroid unless it's caused by some genetic code being turned on her life yes had you seen an increase with men with breast cancer yes and no as a lot of men the men rate is still pretty low as far as breast cancer because there's not enough from turning into breast cancer however when you have a mutation in that gene that like i said the break function is gone so now it doesn't have you don't have the protective ability