i can but i just assume not my intent is to allow an exchange of questions and answers and information i would ask that if there are questions that you win the public has comment to address your comments to the moderator and then i'll defer to the to the expertise that's sitting up here i'm also going to run it in the fact that i want to make sure everyone gets a chance to speak and once everyone has spoken once we'll see if there's enough interest in talking a second time i would remind if there are any nonvoters in non residents of the town of richmond here you will not be allowed to speak unless there is a suspension of the rules and i'll probably ask for unanimous consent on that i will quickly do that here as we get into the minutes ahead i think that's what i have to say at this point time so the way i'd like to conduct this this evening we have a panel here from a t n t that would like to give a presentation about this subject so unless there is any objections i will allow the representatives from eighteen to to speak is there any objection seeing none sir you have the floor thank you my neighbors will  presentation that we will make available to the house tomorrow once ripped through here tonight if you'll bear with me  exclusively for two years and what was special about that is that it really clarified for us that voice was no longer going to be the central experience of the mobile phone i'm going for that it would be data in other words it's not necessarily phone calls it e mails it's text messages streaming video it's radio and so the other did in the other piece about the two years that our customers became early adapters of wireless technology so that about seventy to seventy five percent of our customers are on our own smartphones compared to about fish thirty to sixty percent industry wide so you know again we have data as a central piece and we have more of our customers using data than other than other carriers so with that in mind you know i think it's fair to  say that the next couple years really set us back on our heels a little bit in terms of the just exponential exponential demand in data pass me that was needed as well as improved coverage as well and i think we have a reputation for being very fast and i think we're working towards a reputation for being more reliable in terms of our coverage as well but we realize that we needed not only a robust it but the sustainable network one that we would be able to now are switching away from wireline to having you know from a landline and moving towards wireless phones so that's also driving our data capacity needs and that's four hundred sixty five national effort we're spending sixty six billion dollars over the next three years total nationally with the goal of building ten thousand new sites nationwide and extending four g l t e coverage to over three hundred people nationwide now l t e is essentially wireless broadband so you're using your wireless phone but you're getting the same speeds or in some cases even faster than you would be getting with a landline modem and you know so with  sort of as a result of a lot of customer concerns that we received coverage in the town and we had a head and we had three sites on our on our plate for project the ip this is in addition to the so that's really important to us we're also getting some of the residential areas and we feel good about the site because we one of the reasons that we feel great about the site is the aesthetic mitigation opportunities of existing and we've been working closely  again we're covering some of the french hill area ninety nine as well as the jericho road and some of the village of richmond the third site is williams hill road and williams hill road is a very very unique site for us when we started out it was sort of the third site in the in the town that would provide coverage to the southern southern parts of the town we realized as we got into the process that that the some of the natural resource issues were much greater than we had originally anticipated we also when we got our first set of photo simulations back realized that the aesthetic impact was fairly great was was in fact much more than we had originally anticipated we attempted to to mitigate the aesthetic piece by lowering the height of that tower it was originally a hundred feet and we looked at could we get it down to eighty feet or seventy feet and at that height we weren't really comfortable with the coverage at that that that would provide so we have announced and we let the town know today  we let the neighbors that we met with yesterday know this morning that we've actually withdrawn that application and will be reevaluating that surgery as well so you know i think i think in general one of the things that we talked to when we talked to the town back in october is that we wanted to do whatever we could to be good community partners and i think we are continuing to to make progress in that area when the you know we receive the certificate of public good request the town was concerned because they wanted to see a comprehensive view for our plans going forward so we suspended the forty five day clock on that and finally submitted all three applications back in february in the interim head to meetings with the cochrane road greystone dr neighborhood group as well as ongoing email conversations we've moved our location at that area more about the site specifics so just to build up a little bit of what of what he was talking about ultimately a t and t has made a major commitment of between sixty million to her mom for network infrastructure improvements between twenty eleven and two thousand and thirteen and employs about one hundred people in the state a lot of that work between twenty eleven and twenty thirteen was to expand upon the assets that they started overall growth of the industry the projection is that the the amount of smartphone usage will jump to something or on the order of eight hundred fifty percent over the next course of the next ten years so we need to make sure that people have reliable dependable service and also that all devices work the way that they're supposed to particularly when it comes to the most important function of any wireless device which is to really have one one service so with that in mind what i'm showing you here is basically what richmond has now in terms of eighteen thousand coverage and these are these maps are a little bit different from the maps that you received in some of the packets the public service board requires us to show multiple signal strengths of coverage and what we've done is to try to paris down a little bit so that the what on this screen appears as blue and orange areas are really the areas of reliable l t e coverage within that eight hundred fifty megahertz spectrum so that's for data and what you can see is that over right hand right lower hand corner of the screen you have robyn's mountain that's over in bolton you've got another site that is it will list in the rest area which is i stand you all know it from driving on the interstate and then there's a third site which i'll show you which is the mt pritchard site that's actually over in st george those are the three sites that are providing most of a t n t is coverage into richmond and obviously goes without saying none of them are actually in richmond the president so talking about gold so one of the things that the zoning regulations ask us to do and we do look at the zoning regulations as part of any two forty eight application is to determine whether there's anything that can be done to those existing sites to make the work better so that you don't have to build anything you know the bolton or the robbins mountain site in bolton you can see it up in the corner picture  height of fifty six feet above ground level and there's really no room above it without trying to extend that tower it's very difficult to extend a tower that old because all of the structural standards have changed as a result of the nine ninety eight ice storm and of other considerations in structural design so effectively it's too far away from richmond and without enough height to change the tilt of these antennas to try to make them work if you even modify them slightly to try to intensify the coverage you'll basically end up in the trees that run down from robinson mountains the second site is the well actually this this this sort of illustrates some of the problem vehicle traffic but data traffic in this area is causing a lot of problems we have multiple reports of blocked and dropped calls slow data no connection and poor voice quality so all of those things we're trying to rectify so even though here if you're looking again in my laser at this area between the overpass and jonesville it looks when you're looking at the map as though there is coverage there and there is but the capacity problems here are by the fact that the even twenty ten annual average daily traffic rate along the interstate can get as high as between twenty thousand and sixty thousand cars so any number of those that are all trying to use their phones whether there'd be a traffic accident or just some big event taking place in burlington or just a lot of people driving on the road that's what's leading to some of the problems in that area and moreover data traffic is only expected to increase over time as more people start using more different types of wireless network applications in their vehicles the other site that's providing some coverage to the area is the i e nine willesden rest area this is the northbound rest area there is a site that was constructed in the in the little cucolo where i'm putting my laser pointer back in two thousand and six the antennas are at a height of thirty two feet there's barely any room in there to move and there's no way to  adapt it for all the equipment that we need other than what we have now which is just enough to bring some coverage in but what it does is so here's here's that wilson rest area and you can kind of it's a little bit difficult to see because of the colors and i apologize but you can see that green the wind that represents the town boundary coming into richmond along the interstate there's some coverage provided but there's a big gaps at the bottom of french hill and then on that curve headed into exit sevent so probably a lot of you like me have experienced call drops there and that's something that you know in addition to customer frustration it's as andy has pointed out even at the level of the governor and some of his top officials we've heard quite a lot about  road area and a little bit up on civilians health it's coming from that area but not very much and so there's not much that can be done there so what is that where does that leave us in terms of new coverage the one site that's been approved so far is the frequency transparent dome to put in tennis inside and last year in september we received approval for extending that so that we can put our own antennas on horizon without having to build a new tower that construction is planned for the second quarter of two of twenty fourteen because there's a lot of complexity with actually getting the fiber connections and it may still be some time before the fall before the sites actually becomes law but when it does it's going to improve the coverage  to that bottom gap that i was shown you before and also start providing a lot more eighty coverage into the village area and along the interstate so that gives you some idea of what's sort of what's in richmond now and what is slated to happen in the immediate future but what we're alternately trying to get to is much better coverage both along the interstate areas coming up into the high density residential district jericho road and coming down further south where a lot of people live so not just trying to cover the interstate but also penetrate where there's a lot more secondary roads and where there's a lot of people are getting to talk a little bit about this more  n we get into perhaps presentation but the next thing i want to talk to you is what's similar about all these various projects that have been talked about today rather than ten kind of exploring each and every one of them and what we what we did in keeping  mind was looking at what elements are in your boardman's that are of concern what substantive provisions are in the ordinance and then what are the concerns that ten to come up in meetings that we've had like this before so a couple of them include lighting on the tower structural support how strong the tower is utility lines and whether there's going to be clearing for utility cord ores the generator support like electrical gen backup generation and what type of noise impacts co radio frequency emissions which are a topic that often comes out and then the last one what we call the tapered model pine design which is the type of facility that we're proposing at cochran road and it that easy one of the really easy one to explain is the lighting the general rule about tower lighting is that if a tower is two hundred feet tall that it must be like anything under two hundred feet it will entirely depend on whether that new determine whether there is a potential for registration and for both of the both the jericho road side as well as the cochrane road site the tower shows that there is no interference with any approach so you would have to  only lighting that would be associated with either facility would basically be a motion sensor light on the equipment shelter when somebody actually goes in the home and the same is true with marketing sometimes you see those old candy cane and radio towers of red white all the way up you don't have to do this here if you've got a clean towers and say the second question is is structural integrity is there any type of risk that these model pines as we're calling them might collapse that's standard unlike the original standard where you just looked at the tower itself and figured out is there a chance that the tower will collapse not looking so much at the effect of all the things that you're putting on the tower now you look much more at each panel antenna each microwave antenna as a sale that potentially could affect how that tower is built on towers that have been constructed undergrad g have survived some of the nation's worst weather events over the course of time such that you know there you really don't worry about them the structural design is so much more intense in the can survive a where the towers designs of everything on it can withstand a ninety mile an hour wind with a three second and then three quarters of an engine of ice with a forty mile an hour three second gossip the same time so look at both that high winds as well as the effect of ice in some cases a tower can be over designed so that it can meet that reggie standard but have additional protection around part of it but not all of it and that way if you ever had let's say one hundred twenty mile an hour wind for some sustained period of time then even the breakpoint would fall in a certain direction so it wouldn't go in there towards a property line or an existing structure all of these facilities will after you do a geotechnical report be designed to meet that rev g s another issue that's in the regulations that's in section six point two zero point nine is all utility lines associated with a towers most of the underground every cell site requires an electrical power connection for all of the equipment inside as well as a connection to fib optic cable to ultimately take that signal that is going through your phone back to the switch so many times sites are selected based on how close it is at our source and fiber optic source at jericho road in a cochrane road there's going to be new utility poles that are placed at the entrance to pick up where there's already power but then going up the access road everything will be buried underground so there won't be any new polls or new swa of forest cleared just for utility bills and i think it both cases we're looking at ways of ultimately reducing the amount of clearing that we have to do even for the accessories so i was just showing there some of that's designed to one hundred ten percent so if there was ever a leak of that fuel source and they've been very reliable you basically have more capacity than what you need to contain it the way that a generator functions at most of the sites there's an eight hour battery backup before a generator would even turn on a power outage and then if it was a long term power outage more than eight hours that it would turn on until power is restored other than that a generator runs for about thirty minutes per week usually set it to nine am on a wednesday not in the middle of the night or on a weekend so that it's not it's not interrupting it's not creating noise that the wrong time of day looking at the noise effects of both the generator and the air conditioner that are on each appointment shelter the world health organization guidelines you is what we use rather than the town of richmond ordinance because it's a little bit stricter it's basically a fifty d b a day time a property boundary and forty five deviate for the ninth time what we've done for jericho road or what we're in the process for doing for all the sites is confirming that that the siblings against one another in our design which you can see that we're doing here and what we would do for the cochrane road site depending on what the noise study comes back to that is basically building an eight foot high wooden barr stockade fence that goes around this section of the compound in order to attenuate the noise it's a little bit hard to see up here but there is the compound and there is the property lines about two hundred fifty six feet a moment so that's what we're proposing to do with that site radio frequency emissions is something that is ultimately governed by the by the f c c i won't spend too much time on it because we have an expert here to discuss it but basically what we will do for every site is run a power density study that assumes a worst case scenario for radio frequency exposure with the assumption that someone is on the ground and that the radiating sources are directed toward that person on the ground and looking at what the ultimate milliwatts per square centimeter is at the ground level of that six foot high person depending on the frequencies being used at a particular site the peak emissions from the jericho road side just to give you an example our point fifteen percent of that m p so really just a fraction of what the total is and that's designed with several margins of safety in mind to look at the difference between people who know what they're doing around the tower and people who for whatever reason might the naked eye i am or beyond the property line and in the definition there's a cross reference to alternative design tower structure that's a definition that says that includes artificial trees and similar alternative design mounting structures that camouflage or conceal the presence of antennas or towers and interesting lee across references back to stealth facility so the way that we've interpreted this is still facility is like our for burke silo where you're using an existing structure whereas an alternative design tower structure is how you design a new tower to be as stealth as possible what the regulations go on to say is that the towers antennas and related tower fixtures shall not be more than twenty feet above the average height of the tree line measured within two hundred feet but that height may be approved for adequate coverage or to accomplish co location if additional height does not have an undue adverse impact on the scenic character of the area the regs go on to define adequate coverage as being nine at least ninety b for cellular it doesn't talk about l t e at all and that's because the ordinance is a little bit older and then it talks about how location being a town or affirming referring to at least one extra provider and many of you know providers tend to separate from one another by about ten feet so if you have to providers that have a rate within ten feet of the center of each separate side of man tenants and then the last definition that we looked at was adequate capacity which refers to the grade of service or no more than two percent of dropped calls in a given area so looking at richmond zoning ordinance you can see that there are some areas where wireless facilities are conditional uses without being an alternative design tower structure or the cellar and then the places that we are located are all residential so with model pine designs there are often use of locations where there is some sort of backdrop that allows for a better blend usually works well with existing sites but it doesn't work well if it's out in the open in the middle of the field or on top of the original we haven't used it successfully in sites that can either terminated or proposed for weston partly in hartford jamaica and rockingham not very many around here but a lot of places that we're trying to address in the southern parts of the state this is the basic design of the news this is the model behind that we use that multiple places and just show you what it looks like in actual constructed sites this is a site in rockingham for ma that was built just a couple of years ago you can see there's a number of scotch heinz all around it that helps up land here you're obviously right at the compound by for example here is the the water reservoir used by the bellows falls water is hard and there's our site and you can kind of see it blending into truth it's very difficult to see from that location another area that that one was recently bit you have built was in hartford in west london and it's a little bit hard to see with the light on but if you can look right around where my laser pointer is you can see that this is sort of this is an area where that model pine is difficult to distinguish from some of the other trees and it's below the ridge line although if you look at it from here a predicted view show they're based on a computer model that takes into account topography and what you see here in blue is really projected visibility of the site based topography alone no tree cover and then the bread incorporates here a proposed fifty foot tree cover so rare it shows predictive visibility with topography and tree cover and we assume an average height of a viewer at six and talk view shared shows you location b and then the lower one showing locations and i just kind of an it and then the other thing that i would just add to all of this is keep in mind that all of the photo simulations in a way we're fortunate with the timing are all done during winter so to some degree you're going to get one foliage kick sand it's certainly going to reduce the impacts from many locations not everywhere and you will still see it when winter comes around again or if it ever finishes but but other than that it's a it's an important point so i move on to the next stat location which is property owner on that one of the restrictions or conditions in that subdivision was a soil migration plan and some of the property including where we're proposing to put the access for a portion of it is subject to this is the far family operation think you know you've heard of where we stand on the williams hill road i just wanted to kind of quickly kind of talk about you know it's the same process where a very different place with this site so here's the search rin you know the coverage objective here for the way until and this is kind of the propagation based on the site that we are not pursuing at this time because we withdraw it was a statute that passed in two thousand and nine and part of for monts stimulus act of basically trying to reproduce the speed for deployment of broadband and wireless service throughout the state i'm showing a picture of town's own big stimulus project which was the bridge reconstruction for us it was very important as well because it just it changes a lot of not only how you go about permit ing but ultimately the predictability of the permit and the attention that's paid by the state law to need on top of all those other impacts that we've just been talking about this that it's cetera so projects are first reviewed by the municipalities then by the department of public service the agency of natural resources and the public service for and the division of historic preservation as part of the process and the beginning stages of the process or even after you file the recommendations of select boards and planning commissions are afforded substantial deference by the public service board unless there is a good cause shown by an applicant or a third party to to do otherwise that recommendation from a select border from a planning commission can be based on the town plan and wireless provisions and it's zoning regulations so where you are at this stage as sort of dandy or just a kind of recap based on what any investor we're talking about we've withdrawn the forty five day notice for williams hill road  as of today and what we plan to do is to refocus on what the coverage objective for that particular site is trying to focus on a way of both meeting the service objectives for the people that live off of williams hill road like hillview all of those heinsberg with respect to the cochrane road site what we're proposing to do is fly a new balloon at the location suggested by gene this arraignment which we've talked about and if that ultimately proves preferable what we propose to do is finish materials and use that for the submission to the public service with respect to jericho road what we'd like to do is proceed to file with the public service board at the end of the forty five day process in mid april but of course work here tonight  part to hear comments about that site and in each case what i want to emphasize is that they'll be a chance for anyone bothers or even people that are not of daughters the town itself to make a comment during the twenty one day notice period only of others received notice but were happy or a notice from us but we're happy to provide it to the towns to distribute it as you like the p s p will typically issue an order if we've done our job well between thirty and forty five days sooner so i think with that we have multiple witnesses here and both on the panel as well as in the audience to answer questions and i think we can turn it back to you ok you think you know the presentation decided to do it that way but they were drawn that so this no longer germane to this meeting is that pretty much that's correct and it wasn't without a lot of spot thought it was certainly the culmination of thinking about a lot of different aspects not just things that the neighbors raise and we don't necessarily agree with absolutely everything that the neighbors at the meeting put out in front of us however we're looking at our own needs we're certainly thinking about their needs we absolutely thought very closely about the linz and the position it puts them in they are we really appreciate all the work that they've done with us today and we're sorry that we decided to do this do it this way but we feel that the combination of the ascetic problems the natural resource problems and frankly our own reevaluation of the coverage objectives and that part of richmond an iceberg is what caused us to alternately withdraw thank you other questions yes  you know any time neighbors reach out to us where we're at be good to go to them and chat about some of the concerns so we're happy to do that and also just like to briefly also say that we certainly did and you know i think it thirty of mile white road jericho the other was the vicinity of william silk road but they did not have any final planes or either one of them shortly after that they put out the forty five day pre filing notice for the cochran road site which was subsequently withdrawn after the town wrote some correspondence about it so we didn't have the exact locations of the other site says time what went on we learned that they had finalized the site on williams hill road we didn't learn until february that they'd finalize the site for jericho but we had already agreed that last fall that we would have a joint hearing on all three sites  we certainly were skeptical because we know how difficult towers are to present to the public all cross your mind all cross the united states when towers go up neighborhoods come out and say you know there are a lot of things wrong with the tower proposal we knew that would happen here so without knowing what the other two sites were the really wasn't anything for us to do but wait and see we knew we were going to have this story hearing so that's really what the town standpoint is we have not taken any official position on these towers yet but that's what the select board will be deliberating thank you yes sir  there access to a little i phone app that all of us could use that we could at any point in tap something in order to actually think on our phone and actually see what the coverage is going to be based on the towers you're putting up hi laura different because i apologize but i was having a hard time from the graphics you put up actually interpreted what the real walkable benefit is going to beat not that it's not going to be better but i think that for those of us who live and drive around here and be great to be able just pull over and hit something go oh it's going to be something there if that would be possible website you can put in your zip code your address your street and it'll pop out what your existing coverage is i'm not from here anyhow and you have that shows because you know we're in the process of constantly upgrading and designing and to put something out there when you know nothing is finalized and you've got to keep changing it doesn't make sense to put something out there so i don't know of anything that exists thank you standard by two that we have to comply with and live by it which is the of c c and how is the power related to those regulations the other one is how the f c c has regulations related to  regulations that we have to live by so what we did when we were looking at the site we generated theoretical exposure study and those are based on the proposed facility and the high in terms of the amount of signal the number of channels the different technologies that are being use the  question about you know what if more than eight hundred people in the tower because the towers it's designed for call cation and there could be others beyond eighteen feet basically it's it's from an analysis standpoint it's really hard to analyze what you don't know we don't know who the other carriers would be that would want to go on with our we don't know what their operations would be like so the past guess we can make is that they would do something similar to that look at how it relates to the exposure scenario in the area and basically if you look at this the study that we did it was six one hundred c standard which is significantly lower than it's fractions of pittsburgh one percent of the same when we when we do these theoretical studies we often go back to sites afterwards after they've been constructed and measure to see how whether the theoretical study was optimistic or pessimistic or right off and because we're doing a theoretical study to the worst case analysis in every case we've ever gone and measured the actual measured signal is significant it's about ten percent of what we're predicting the theoretical study so and often when you're talking about a tower if we're talking about a rooftop it's a thirty foot building sometimes you're somewhat closer to the standard but when you're talking about a tower that's one hundred feet or you know hundred forty feet or whatever  you're you're really if you go out to try to measure the exposure you're at the bottom of the limit of what the machines that you can measure with are even at the base of the tower where the signal level will be the highest so ever found of information about radio frequency emissions is actually back to fifty decision called burlington broadcasters that went into extensive lines as to how the r f admissions standards were developed all of the margins that sub safety that were put in for what their east agencies of the federal government didn't know and to this day and what i'm having to do is when i provide the presentation to the town to put on the website i'll send you the copy of the ruling to broadcasters as well somebody here can can take a look at it but what's interesting about burlington broadcasters both is looking at that margin of safety that are put in for what we don't know and every time that we've talked with the department of public service who actually had back man of the time the burlington broad answers was being decided was also looking at the f c c standard trying to decide whether from option adopt a different standard they'd probably be preempted if they did but that didn't stop right they wanted to be sure you know certain themselves that the science was right and what you know the best that i can tell you will provide more information is that the only t v the division within the f c c that was in charge of developing those standards has people that continually re evaluate them they look at all of the scientific literature you'll see if you go to their website they do have concerns about sometimes about handsets and and how often people use their handsets and where they one done by the world health organization and the other done by the american cancer society so we'll provide that as well and links to those studies here show so well we can hand that to you after the after the short that the there were holes that were sixty feet above the base of the tower so what we did was we looked at the same analysis that we did and took a slice as if it was sixty feet above the base of the tower the where they are every variable but i think it would be helpful if we and again i want to be pragmatic about it i think we'd like to know which which are the houses that you want to analyze and i think we also should do it or wait until we based on the dialogue to take thank you very much yes ma'am in the back thank you any other comments or questions to try to answer those questions and i think they all are you know more or less the same i guess one of them is why richmond is richmond being absolutely singled out among everybody else and what i can say your battles know the service their service problems that are just a in cold chester in assets and jericho basically all around this area and the problem that we have is that the user demand is so great and there is sort of a technological constraint that makes data different from traditional phone service most of our regulations most of our towers were designed at a time where we offer the flip phone was the really cool thing about not very many of us have flip phones anymore what we do have this you know addiction and i'll say that there's people in the audience right at this very minute who are looking on their smartphone trying to use their data which is fine and that's obviously what you do want but to deal with the service and have it work the way that you want  to work there need to be more towers just kind of going on and what i showed you at the beginning the reason i wanted to demonstrate sort of what is that existing coverage in richmond is because it's sort of amazingly it's all outside of richmond and that's not a unique situation throughout for modern new hampshire or maine but the problem is that when you've got a greater demand there comes a point at which you have to try to address it either by finding an existing structure and building on it and that's goes to the  they learned about our application said wait a minute what are we doing we don't want to have to do this we'd like to join on to europe so when we submit the application to the public service board after the forty five day process that will be a two carrier location contrarily they have a tower that's presently being run in berlin we're doing the same thing we found out about it we dropped our tower plan and are saying we want to join with horizon so the carriers do work together now they always work together no but i think that that's that is something that in whether it be at the local level or at the two forty eight a level one of the criteria is you've got to show that you can't co located and frankly that if you build something new you should build it for co location just like the richmond regulations so this isn't a unique problem to richmond at all the only thing that's neat about richmond i would say is it's sort of amazingly have coverage coming from other places for so long those towers that are out there the rest area thirty two fee t the the fifty six feet that we have on robin's mountain i mean eighty and eighty and its predecessor has been using that since the nineteen ninety s or the zeros and you don't see those towers going away if they do go away there are provisions both in the lease agreements and a lot of the permits to basically say if you come obscenely you've got to take them out but just thinking about robyn's maps and as an example i'm sure that in one nine hundred eighty six everyone thought well short well and i think some of the current legislation is that the phone would have to be secured on the dashboard and  so and i think you know one of the great opportunities that the company sees it and and a number you know that that a number of companies are pursuing it you know we use our g p s rover use our phone  for g p s now we use it to listen to music all of that is data and so a lot of a lot of the uses of the phone are going beyond just a simple phone call and so you know and so i think that's one of the main reasons that we're looking to shore up coverage along i eighty nine and also just a simple public safety you know making sure that if your car breaks down you have access to call nine one one which in some you know in some places on ninety nine you know you don't know in and you know when as will said earlier you know we've been asked by the governor and by the legislature to address that and to try to include that as much as possible in our future plans and so that's that's sort of where that coverage need comes from thank you other questions you know or care i really can't see now i mean i don't we don't we don't own it and i'm not certain i mean so here you want to address not even let's suppose that you have if you got another but short answer is no but it's too far away for the purpose of providing  that's something that we could consider and it sounds like that maybe after this meeting we'll have a little more of a dialogue about jericho road but we're very cognizant of the comment that was made earlier about preserving that row of trees that's in the front and i think that's something that we've in other sites we've talked with our landlords about that about adding a essentially a no cutting easement to our you know to the lease agreement that we end up having and that's something that we could look at well maybe a combination of and he's going to preserve those trees and then electrical power or more talent anywhere near it or any type of sort of realistic access road that won't involve you know taking apart completely like a natural area we want to look at really look at a place that we've basically already looked at something right next to it and ruled it out for our effort later reasons and what we also want to know is that there's a willing landlord at the end of sure if it's somebody you know that you're pointing at somebody else's property but they have no interest in leasing  then it's obviously not helpful for us to look by the way but that's the way that we've done this in the past sometimes we'll just do it individually will receive the information and run it from there and sometimes it will be followed through the town but the town specifically thank you for their comments questions in the back to this location see a solution i don't think this neighborhood believes that that necessarily is the solution that might be a possibility and we'd like to explore that possibility along with other locations you know the stars will be with us for decades probably at least twenty five years if not more and we heard about one hundred eighty for the robinson tower ok these can be around for many decades so taking a little breath here working as a town together to try to find the right guy i think is very worth everybody's