corroborated each other the first one was the petitioners witnessed all he testified to travel time from lancaster to the wooden schools and interest in his suit his children had a temper there for a number of years and he said he drove them there half the t was something that was possible but i don't think it was necessary in this case because i think of the trial judge specifically included that based upon the is that when there is no educational benefit or financial benefit or detriment to any of the school districts involved then the petition has to be granted these periods some education benefit benefit to the welfare of the students there was an initial comment made up front about educational welfare versus academics you know in the academic performance everybody knows that educational welfare is broadly term and within the case law it includes the concept of closeness to school community of community of interests with participate on the tennis team but another of the other school would be one school have the tennis team or another school did that the point here is that educational benefit is broadly defined and the obligation under the law under the curricular activities of the robredo schools that's the year of the law the community of interest results in the benefit to participation is is unbelievable it can't be so not unless it was driving sixty miles an hour through all the traffic through all traffic lights that's just incredible our witnesses testified there is clear evidence in the is further away it to the equation the fish that there's more high school kids that drive themselves so you're going to be putting more kids on the road right and if they're for the way to trash through their time period that they would have for extra so i think that's adequately addressed in the pro court decision but i'd also you know echo there but that's clearly clearly so the primary concern of the transportation are the younger the older students as one of our witnesses testified and as it would be in my case a four boys two years apart they have kids at different levels riding different busts one goes must come home in the afternoon there's for at least an playing road almost to the lancaster subdivision where there's one more houses in their district they pick up a student there then they drive on down go into the lancaster subdivision turnaround bus and drive  it comes to the educational benefit to the students now the bus travel time is going on obviously be longer and i believe the record clearly shows that there is a least three to five hours difference in the and they're designed efficiently based upon where the students are on the routes there is no logical way that a school district would set up a bus route in this but as proposed there in iran obviously they're going to use the same route for eight years of elementary students students kindergarten through eighth grade a small fly the hours the time with the family home home or just maybe the convenience now turning also that the students move participated in extracurriculars in the other school they probably will that's not the question the question is is it an educational benefit that this pattern change and him to ask yourself if there is mama no detriment either academically or physically to this school districts and you've got this one subdivision connected to the other one right near the elementary school as opposed parents is also has to be taken into consideration because the case law says one should have some you know educational benefit the preference of loam doesn't do it but the preference is to be with this is to be weighed and in this case you