the opening of spring if you will spring is honest now and it's a time of renewal and a time of thought about what we're going to do for the next year and i want to let you know a couple of declarations that have been done  this for this month and next week next week is the the week of the young child and that's very fitting because we have a new young child in the family our county deputy clerk new young child so i thought to be very fitting to talk about that the week of the young child is an annual celebration sponsored by the national association for the education of young children because what is called the world's largest early childhood education association with nearly eight eighty thousand members and a network of over three hundred local state and regional affiliates the purpose of the week of the young child is to focus public attention on the needs of young children and their families to recognize the early childhood programs and services that meet those needs first established in the week of the young child in one thousand nine hundred seventy one recognizing that early childhood years birth through age eight lay the foundation for the child children success in school and later life the week of the young child is a time that to plan how we as citizens of a community of a state and of a nation will better meet the needs of all young children and their families so next week is of the young child april is national volunteer month it's important to honor those who dedicate themselves to offering their time and skills to make our community a better place there are so many different ways to volunteer or sometimes you volunteer without even recognizing that that's what we're doing like helping out at church or coaching a soccer team with our busy lives sometimes we can only fit in a day here or are there to help clean a park or serve a meal at a homeless shelter that's ok because volunteer ism allows you to give back to your community in your own way in maui county the r s v p group the retired citizens volunteer program a retired senior volunteer program has six hundred  fifty two active volunteers and only total annual hours that they volunteer is fifty nine thousand nine hundred ninety four at seventy locations on maui and one night a nationally recognized value of volunteer service per hour is two dollars twenty two dollars and fifty five cents total value of those hours contributed to maui county alone is one million three hundred fifty two thousand eight hundred sixty four dollars there are other groups besides the that was just the r s v p there's the group that i'm heavily involved with the south volunteers they have a group of folks to go up and down and do some tremendous things to our beach parks that if o just wanted to point out that national volunteer month was established in one thousand nine hundred four but president richard nixon and every sitting u s president since then has issued a proclamation urging americans to give their time to their community this is an opportunity to recognize those who give themselves to help others let's encourage others to join it so those are two important things that are happening this next week and this whole month and wanted to just bring that up at the time of renewal and spring before we proceed please turn off your cell phones or other noisemaking devices if you have them with you with the agenda as the chair proceeding with the presentation of testimony on agenda items we've established limit to telephone interactive communication that enables individuals from to provide testimony from our district offices individuals who wish to offer testimony from one a look at you should now sign up with district office staff individuals who wish to offer  for various reasons it is more than just a means of transportation providing access across a little channel is a conduit that bridges our simple lives to the outside world and offers opportunity competition and academic experiences for our kids whether in from public and private schools on my way and when i just this weekend five teams traveled on the golf tennis volleyball b ball and softball it would be virtually impossible for a small commuter airline to accommodate this many students at one time with a limited airline routes provided to mostly as a parent i appreciate the fact that it is a dependable service and it provides a passage for my kids and others there are many of us who prefer having our children travel by ferry rather than plane my sons or student athletes and compete in year round sports and travel at least six times per sport even supply that three seasons that eighteen times in a school year there are five and a public school related event on a personal level many of us are basically remember i'm ok kids coming home from competition for open half of the team including my sister athletic director and coach perished in a plane crash those of us who experience that share similar anxieties when sending our kids our own kids off to compete absence to happen and we sometimes have no control of young children live for free and also some you pay half the price it will cost to fly this makes it a budget friendly option for families to travel together for various reasons such as doctor appointments and or supporting their kids in school activities with the hard economic challenges residents face and will possibly face this is very welcome i support any help that can come from the council and alleviating the challenges faced with providing a source of public transportation from island to island that serves a greater population were able to spend time with her at the hospital and you know help her through her recovery you all i'm sure i've heard many stories of many other people who have had similar situations family friends of ours or some of us ourselves who had to have treatment and were able to get it here on maui because of the hospital already get it online i already get it up in cool it's yes there are still questions but the alternative to their not being able to be a problem private partnership the state has made it very clear there's not money for them to find at the level that's necessary the alternative reduce services or even worse is just not a comfortable thing for for any of us on maui so i ask you to support this resolution and to support the legislation that is coming up for a hearing tomorrow thank the most princess of a ship or reduction in service or obvious loss of jobs term a term a nation of a commuter workforce negative impact to our economy and fewer options for travel the list goes on however as an educator and coach i can foresee the negative impacts on our due to our students our future the ferry is a mean transportation vehicle for students at the high school and middle school mostly is part of my we come to an art and our ability to travel to m greatly depends on a reliable first system that has ability to carry larger groups of people that commuter airlines cannot from stem and robotic competition to start internet whether car students need to be afforded the opportunity to participate in activities and been that are not readily available here imo cut a flight only option would drastically reduce the number of students who would be able to travel offline and to participate in these events as if any member of the m i m i o eight man football league i have witnessed the positive impact that athletics especially football has had on the athletes i have coached these past few years for many the incentive to cold hard cold play the game helps them stay on track to class and for some even earn a diploma all because they get to participate in football without the ferry i don't see how a small airlines that serve a small high can accommodate our football team to travel with our bags football gear and equipment sleeping bags or air mattresses coolers a cooking supplies these kind of traveling during the arrangements can only be accomplished on the ferry so with that i urge you i urge you i implore you to seek options to help me team some kind of ferry service to benefit all of our  mr clerk district office please introduce your next testif by for the testimony from our military district   the resolution submitted by counsel submitted to the council in support of a public private partnership for the hospital and i'm here to thank you for that expression of support and to urge you to support this resolution as you have all read and heard about the hospital we are facing some difficult and challenging times mr lowe is not able to be here this morning he was needed in it really is about our kids are people who need to travel to maui for work for dog owners if you have a large dog on this island to get them to a vet the only way to do so is on the very many numbers you know we're not for everybody but we certainly can use more people who want to come and understand the experience of the t and we are seeing very positive reports in the newspapers and so well i strongly urge you to support the line a cruise company and continuing the ferry service i strongly feel it should not be cut back to one day or once a day but i would also like to stress that perhaps we can urge mr young or perhaps a m v a to supplement if that were not sustainable that's understanding but i truly believe if we concentrated on a come up marketing benefit by breaking away from the daily life of smelly thank you very much for your time this morning members of the need for clarification as to clerk district office flingo good morning council member hi name is artist lingo and i'm just representing myself as an elder on this island if we want to go over and virtually shop for things or go to cosco the only way that we can effectively do that is on the ferry it's just prohibitive cost prohibitive to try to fly in to handle all of the you know stuff that you would buy at a cost overrun where is on the ferry we can take large amounts of things we can go and buy enough to sustain ourselves our income is limited and we just can't afford to pay all the extra money that it would cost to ship it or to get it to our home otherwise and i still i really very much support what terry neuros just sad in her testimony as far as the need for our children to have the opportunity to participate in sports homeowners with arch dogs you know we really enjoy those who do come from maui on the ferry and come over and see us and are a part of our community and we really feel like this should be a priority for the council to continue the service for us thank you very much swindle members of the need for because you have to represent you have to remember that you represent all the people of now we can't be a little out of breath because i walked up the stairs so it's not just the union which is a couple of maybe a couple hundred people that i know that you need union support to get elected and i know number of you are going to look to be run for mayor and once again the thing i stress of most is that our hospital is in such need we are in need of urgent care at the hospitals in the divergent care and each and every one of you has either been there have your family been there your children been there all the people which is a life blood of the island at this point in time or the tourists that so many tourists come and need the health care that we have to provide and if we cannot do it that it's tremendous detriment to the island and i think it's wonderful that you as a council as a whole are going to step up and tell our representatives over on a watch that this is what we need and this is something that you've all heard for years and years and years and now it's time because if not now when one of the things as i was walking up the stairs a picture of one of the i don't think you guys walk up the street but i took a photo and what it says on the wall it says he who has health has hope and he who has hope has everything and that is on the wall in this staircase and it's something that we have to stand as a whole and once again i want to say that you represent each and every one of you and please tell the two people that are not here that you have been voted by the people of maui and we're looking forward to the people of you want to do something for the people of maui for their health and welfare and each and every one of you at one point in time will need the hospital it's just like your priest or your rabbi i would always say why do you support your congregation because it's like spiritual health insurance but when you need it it's there and we need the hospital and we need the support of the hospital where else the baby's going to seventy five does that address any of the union concerns or are you aware of any of their issues you know i haven't read all the paperwork i know the big picture i do know that some of the pushback that's coming is from the unions and unions were a wonderful thing not at the turn of the last century but the turn of the century before where they were robber barons who were a lot of people taking advantage of the common man the workers when they were paying nothing having working sixty eighty hours a week today unions came in and you look at you know the textile industry is gone from america the automotive six point six of the charter requires an affirmative vote of six members to retain or voice special counsel by the time we reach the end of the agenda we may be down to only six members and  community that to consider a proposed resolution to authorize the employment of michael esquire of hunton and williams as appellate counsel to represent the county of wildlife at all versus county of civil twelve dash zero zero one nine eight s l and b and k and raising the compensation limit for the employment of the special counsel by an additional five hundred thousand for trial preparation motions trial and appeal for total compensation not to exceed one million seven hundred fifty thousand the complaint in this case alleges violations of the federal water pollution control act also known as the clean water act and other laws arising out of the county's operation of the injection wells resolution fifteen dash thirty five mr chair proceeding with committee reports you have before you from your budget finance committee the following committee reports committee report fifteen to twenty seven recommending the following one of the proposed resolution entitled authorizing the transfer of unencumbered appropriation balance within the department of finance fiscal year two thousand and fifteen budget be adopted and to that kind of communication fifteen dollars forty three be filed mr obama chairman thank you that community board fifteen extra for the record resolution fifteen dash thirty six before you committee report fifteen to twenty eight recommend in the following one that the proposed bill entitled a bill for an ordinance amending chapter three point four eight county code relating to real property tax exemption saying those opposed say no as your passive seven eyes are on those two excused stickler for the record bill nine two thousand and fifteen before you commit report fifteen to twenty nine recommend into following of the proposed bill entitled the bill for an ordinance amending the fiscal year two thousand and fifteen budget for the county of maui as it pertains to the community plan area government facilities design and construction be passed on first reading of the order to print to that the proposed bill entitled the bill determining that part of the proceeds of general bonds of the county of here to four issues in excess of the months required for the purposes for which such bonds were initially issued or may or should not be applied to those purposes and directing such proceeds to other public improvements or authorized recreation committee the following committee report committee report fifteen to thirty recommend in the following one of the proposed resolution and titled authorizing the grant of utility easement to my electric company limited and hawaii hawaiian telcom incorporated percentage chapter three point four for my met to consider a proposed resolution to authorize the grant of the easement for power and communication lines to maui elect and hawaiian telcom on portions of county real poppy located in the who  utility lines have been in place for over twenty years as a result of the easements conveyed to the utility companies by the prior land owner however it was not until the property was surveyed during subdivision recently that the utility lines were found to be on county property the proposed easement would authorize utility companies to place maintain access their equipment on the property using due care but would would require the county maintain the property itself my electric company ltd confirmed it will be responsible for any tree shrub tree being that may impact the integrity of its alliance according to the director of parks and recreation the residents of the subdivision served by the utilities would benefit from the county's grant and because the utilities were currently located on the county property there would be no cost to the county as a result of the grant your committee recommended that the resolutions be adopted and the county communications be filed i asked of the you pass the seven zero nos to mr clerk for the record resolution fifteen thirty seven you have before you from your infrastructure an environmental management committee the following committee reports committee report fifteen to thirty one recommend one declare who to be vacated clothes and discontinued as a county public highway to declare the disposition by negotiation of who we were to be in the public interest and   by the county is no longer necessary because it does not function as a roadway and is not active actively used by the public so your committee notes pursuant to sections two six four  by statutes an established county highway shall continue until vacated clothes abandon or discontinued by the adoption of a resolution so your committee for their notes pursuant to sections three point four four point zero two zero three point four four and point zero three zero and three point four four point zero five zero a consummate this was a real property in fee simple through negotiation and wave public auction when in public interests by the adoption of a resolution approved by two thirds of the the members the county will retain two non exclusive perpetual easements for the continued operation and maintenance of counties drainage and sewer infrastructure within this we wrote so with all that your committee recommended option of this proposed resolution and by alene of this county communication so i respectfully ask for my fellow members support ther discussion all those in favor please signify by saying i those opposed saying no measure passed the six eyes zero nose and three excused which of the two formerly mentioned and mr goodman director of public works inform your committee that the grant to restore the roadway to its original or better condition to the satisfaction of the county following installation of the sewer line your committee recommended adoption of this proposed resolution and policy an intergovernmental affairs committee the following committee reports committee report fifteen to thirty three recommending that the proposed resolution untitled appointment of a member to the public works commission for the county be adopted mr couch th policy in your government affairs committee recommended approval of the mayor's nomination of carlson the third to public works commission for a term expiring march thirty first two thousand and nineteen the committee notes that section two point nine eight point zero one zero a maui county code provides that one member of the public course commission shall be quote knowledgeable in the hawaiian language close quote mr nomination is intended to fill this requirement committee voted seven to zero to recommend the adoption fifteen your policy and government affairs committee considered a proposed bill to authorize the mayor to execute an intergovernmental agreement with the hawaii housing and finance and development corporation to receive a grant of two million four hundred fourteen thousand three hundred nine dollars from the united states department of housing and urban development home investment partnership program the funds would be used to develop a portion of the affordable housing project located in hawaii you can be notes sections two point two zero point zero two zero in a code states quote unless authorized by ordinance the mayor shall not enter into any in a governmental agreement or any amendment there to which places a financial obligation upon the county or any department or agency there  close quote a deputy corporation counsel noted failure to comply with the terms of the agreement could place of a financial obligation on the county according to the project description there will be fourteen home assisted rental units and subject to home rental requirements for twenty years after that units will be subject to the county's affordable housing fund program rental requirements in perpetuity your committee voted seven to zero to recommend passage of the proposed bill on first reading and filing of the communication as for council full for the record bill thirteen two thousand and fifteen before you committee report fifteen us thirty five recommend in the following one that the proposed resolution entitled urging to hoist state board on geographic names to rename the river be adopted and to that kind of communication second miss crib l o couch thank you chair at this meeting of march sixteenth two thousand fifteenth your policy and intergovernmental affairs committee considered a proposed resolution to urge the hawaii state board and geographic names otherwise known as the state board to river because of the recent decision to restore water flow to the proposed two portions of your committee voted seven zero to recommend adoption of the proposed resolution and filing communication council full support of this recommendations and committee report fifteen dash thirty six i think motion for mr coach on a second disk or below mr coach think of a chair at its meeting of march sixteenth two thousand and fifteen to your policy in a governmental affairs committee considered a proposed resolution to urge the administration to execute an agreement to compensate eligible ocean safety officers also known as lifeguards for using personal watercraft in rescues and other operations committee noted ocean safety officers have been using personal watercraft such as jet skis to perform ocean rescues through a pilot program since two thousand and two without additional compensation committee notes that by act one thirty one thirty seven two thousand and thirteen the state legislature created bargaining unit fourteen allowing for the hawaii government employees association or h g e a to collectively bargain on behalf of certain state and county public safety officers including ocean safety officers the director of personnel services said the state has not approved a master contract for bargaining unit fourteen therefore ocean safety officers are still very slowly represented by h g a bargaining units three and four the director of parks and recreation said the supplemental agreement ocean safety officers would compensate them at a rate of two dollars and fifty cents per hour for water craft operations i think that's two dollars and fifty cents more per hour and your committee voted six this was just trying to push forward they had already set precedence of this matter and hoping that we can get on board also to give you no compensation to the people who put their hazardous work for this but the county support for the record resolution fifteen forty two you have before you committee report fifteen to thirty seven recommend in the following one that the proposed bill entitled a bill for an ordinance adopting the state fire code to certain amendments there to be passed and first reading of the order to print and to that kind of communication thirteen dash one eighty one be filed which think of this chair move to adopt the recommendations of committee report fifteen dash thirty seven motion from mr couch in the second hello mr couch thank you chair that is a meeting of march sixteenth two thousand and fifteen to your policy and governmental affairs committee was very very busy apparently they considered a revised proposed bill to adopt with amendments the updated hawaii state fire code effective august fifteenth two thousand and fourteen as the updated county fire code representatives from the department of fire and public safety explain the proposed fire code amendments the revised proposed bill repeals chapter sixteen point zero four  spice and myself attended the maui energy conference on wednesday march twenty five two thousand and fifteen and thursday march twenty sixth two thousand and fifteen at the maui arts and cultural center council members did not attend optional tours offered on friday march twenty seventh two thousand and eight i make this report pursuant to the state sunshine law specific section ninety two dash two point five the hawaii revised statutes as amended in two thousand and twelve by act one seventy seven conference attendees receive presentations on the evolving role of the energy consumers and it will have implications for power utilities policy makers and can form the council was not present at any time the educational conference was not specifically and exclusively organized for directed toward members of the council no commitment was related to a vote on any council business was made at the meeting chair that concludes cochran thank you and very happy to be on this committee again but i haven't been the last term and throughout every time we were filing these reports i kept asking for the maulana behind the figures and i finally see most recent experience as an attorney for the law firm of carl smith he provides expertise in land use zoning administrative law and other legal matters he appears in court and before various boards and commissions in addition to his professional services and experiences he's active in the community and serves as a leader in multiple community service organizations greg's experience will make him a valuable addition to the office of council services i urge the members for the very very good bunch of candidates and our staff with three finalists all of whom i think could have done a wonderful job for us and i believe as ready and able to help us in many ways i look forward to welcoming him with the passage of this resolution should you all vote in favor any further discussion members  graduation mr garneau welcome mr clerk for the record resolution fifteen dash forty three you have before you kind of communication fifteen dash one hundred from council member covello transmitting to the council cherry proposed resolution and titled urging the merit to propose an amendment to the fiscal year two thousand and fifteen budget for the continued operation to work on my week and reduction in services or a loss of the ferry would limit county wide participation and academic atlantic cultural social and economic events includes our students from lynn also from o e and of course the economic development revolving fun was established in twenty eleven to support economic development in m county as know it in my proposed resolution the council expressly fall in the fun necessary to strengthen and diversify the county's economy you support an existing county business to promote job creation to track new business industry because struction and events that will foster economic development in the county and to improve the overall economic and social well being of the county preservation of this lifeline between me and my we meets these public the estimate it available balance of the revolving fund is one million dollars the merits of middle of a propose amendment t one would enable the council to consider interim funding for the continued operation of the ferry while the administration explores a more favorable cost sharing arrangement with the a committee under robert rules section subsection thirteen also supplemented by rules of the council seventy second for discussion i sorry i was looking at mr couch i didn't hear exactly which i moved to refer this item to committee under robert's rules subsection thirteen supported by rule seven of the council you the reason why i would like to have this item referred to commit is because i don't think that as a council we have received all of the information needed to throw early and freely debate issue at the council level as well as analyze all of the material facts have recently gone on the website for the public utilities commission and have reviewed a letter from the attorneys for the the ferry requesting a change in sailing schedule and in that letter also says that basically economically they can survive if given the opportunity for a hearing with that and their charter agreement or their community program is agreed to with the i i have yet to heard any kind of testimony or evidence or from the owner itself or the attorney directly i've heard constituents and by all means i support the travel back and forth and the needs of the community i just feel that we haven't had the opportunity to fully receive the status of the economic causes or the results of this situation that being said this is almost another factor would be i haven't received the profits and losses monthly ridership yearly ridership i don't know what the economic situation is and whether the five hundred thousand would would basically support or sustain further longevity of this company or not i have yet to receive that type of information as another factor i would hate to i wouldn't use the word hate i feel uncomfortable making a plymouth commitment and voting yes on the underlying item when in fact we haven't vetted it through that being said if this  resolution were to pass it would commit my vote to eventually look if the mayor didn't support it or take the five hundred thousand it would basically commit my vote in looking at our own budget for two at the position of really making that commitment at this very moment i do understand the situation with the constituents and their needs to travel back and forth i just need more information to make an informed decision and so that's why we had this ability and vehicle to refer items to committee so that information and the analysis can be done and so that's all i'm asking at this point i'm not yes i'm just asking that the information be received committee and debated not really debated or analyzed i do have copies chair of the letter from the attorney to so i would hope that the members would support this motion to refer to committee so that all the information can be analyzed and a true dialogue with the owner mr john and the  agents can be part of that discussion and maybe as one of the testifiers mentioned options can be discussed viable option that's all i have to say asking the mayor to take a look at this and come back to us with the budget amendment it would sure take a significant amount of review at the mayor's level before it would come back down to us when it comes back down to us is the time discuss that is if and when a budget and then the comes down if it doesn't come down then the point would be moot so this is just urging the mare to start the process and if mr goodman wants to discuss this while we're waiting for that i'm also fine with you know having a referral to committee after the fact of this resolution because i'd like to support the resolution but still have it go to committee even after we pass it so if this motion fails i probably would amend the original motion to not file the communication and refer to  way way back when we had the plan of a company the reason that we were able to keep things going was that emil worked with the farm workers and mr jones and the ferry and we bought hundreds of people to  for employment and it worked and i would like very much to do what mr goldman is recommending that we study very carefully the situation in terms of writers ship finances and whatever but what i see on our table today is a resume lucian asking the mayor please this is important can you consider sending some kind of a budget amendment and at that time i am sure that we're going to ask all the calls but to send this forward today i'm in full want us to try our very best to keep them economically strong i think we need to understand their self interest here is not strong we need to help them they are members there are there are all in so i think we should do everything we can to help them and this does not tied a merit to anything really us to anything we're saying there please and something in that study thank you thank you and i i appreciate the research that mr  legislature to see if there's any way that they can provide some assistance as well we provided when i was in the state legislature we were we provided assistance from the state to the military ferry and that last and i don't recall for how long but then you know following the end of that subsidy mr john has been continuing this service i believe he's been providing this service for thirty years and there are times when economics don't make things easy and part of the challenge they face right now is that the air fares are very close to what they what the ferry charges so for those that don't have big teams and a lot of equipment or a lot of groceries to take back to molokai it's very difficult to vice called stevia it's for our mayor to take a look at it what can be available from the economic revolving fun and the final decision really can understand i am to understand it's a resolution no force and effect of law but the money because it's in this two thousand and fifteen current budget then it's up to the mayor to make the decision to adjust or proviso or appropriate this five hundred thousand to the ferry service or he can mean that's one of his options to do it would have to provide us with the budget amendment that would come back down to our in finance committee for review and approval or denial you know based on the timing it's also somewhat unlikely that we're going to be able to get it done before the end of the year but that's again this is an issue that's going to take a lot of review by the administration first and then a lot of review by this body secondly and the options are you know if they  if there is a desire to provide the funding there's also the option of taking it out of a different source of funding not just the economic development fund so all the options are on the table this is simply saying can you take a look at this and give us your thoughts if you want to move this forward send us a budget amendment and then we'll go through our process the details of a review that mr goodman and yourself and all of us are interested in doing is appropriate at that time not at this time so i don't think it's it's not necessary to or appropriate in my view to refer it to committee because it's a very short time frame with and we want to give the mayor an opportunity to act and there are a lot of moving pieces in this you know i've gone through it at the state level  my commitment to this is because mr john has stuck his neck out and for many years he's subsidized the ferry short fall through the revenue generating and the resolutions it is supposed to mean something not nothing and i'm talking about consistency integrity credibility of this council when we pass something out of the council it's supposed to mean something and supposed to have some type of effect it may not have the force and effect of law but it's got to have an effect of credibility now chair i know you want to interrupt me but i still have my time or i'll move to extend my debate but anyways my point is not against any constituents or miss kerr velo motion our motion for the resolution my point is basically if we are asking as a budget  type appropriations and we're not an appropriation it's a request for the mayor to look at whether he can file an amendment so it's a request yes and please don't interrupt me chair because if you don't have the floor i have the floor so in any case if we're asking the departments to come forward during our budget deliberations and telling them to justify why they need the money wouldn't it be the same true as us requesting the mayor to make an amendment what is the justification we're just sending it up and letting him decide what to do i think we have more responsibility for it and i just talking procedurally wise and credibility wise you know are we making are we passing resolutions just to pass them out they've got to mean something and that's my point i'm not against you know the  i understand what he's seen but we also have at this my colleague who sticks to the rules of the council and it says in the rules exactly what we're talking about it doesn't have the effect of would not be here if there was no value in proposing this resolution to the mayor and the mayor will no doubt look into this revolving fund that comes up from your committee if there's availability of monies that he can a sole recommend for his twenty fifteen amendment this is an attempt for his consideration this is all this resolution is asking and the fact of the matter that you're questioning the integrity for us doing let's have it waived the committee process i sorry cannot goodman ok the chair is going to call for the question at this point i think we we all kind of know where we're coming from and so on the motion on the floor that the vote we're taking is whether to refer to committee this resolution or not so a vote yes is to refer a vote no is to allow us to pass it out today as is permitted by the rules of the council so all those in favor of the motion please say i was opposed say no no no leave the measure fails with two votes second hour of the motion i would like to amend the motion to remove the filing of this communication and actually referring it to committee so i would ask the maker of the motion to move to adopt the resolution and then send the matter to the appropriate committee i think so you agree with you any objections to the amendment members  adopt the resolution and refer the communication to the appropriate committees that's the motion ocean economic revolving find find we have a motion from mr goodman and second by ms cochran to delete the wording relating to the economic revolving fund mr goodman thank you chair now if we truly want the mayor to consider all options and finding monies or appropriations to to go forward with an amendment why would we limit that merit to an economic revolving fine i would propose that allow him allow the administration the latitude to go after or look at several different pots of money to to create or draft an amendment so by limiting it to one find the economic revolving fine you're limiting your opportunities for the mayor to look at different options so i would propose that we delete the narrow specific  you're saying mr goodman just to clarify anywhere where it says revolving fun yes so obviously the five hundred thousand i don't know where you got where the monies that amount of money is required but five hundred thousand that's fine if if that's what the resolution is asking for but to delete where that money five hundred thousand comes from  the specific fund which is the economic revolving fund would allow the ministration the opportunity or option to look at different other areas of funding the chair would just like to point  that this is a resolution which doesn't make the mayor do anything if he wants to take it out of the his wife's haircut budget he can take it out of there again you know this is this is something that is we're sending up asking him to take a look at it it doesn't require him to take it out of any specific fun but he has full authority to make budget amendments in whatever fashion he chooses we have no authority to amend the budget without his input so when as far as the two thousand and fifteen budget is  chair and i want to point out that if we remove those words then it makes two of the where asses and one of the it resolves doesn't make it work so i can't support that either i understand mr guzman's concern and i think  urging to seek five hundred half a million dollars to be committed to this company for a just for three months april may june i mean if this created a perfect  process that quickly what this would be paying for and then the twenty sixteen budget which really in power to create something we could either make up the five hundred that he's not willing to put in or we could look for this five hundred four start come june july first right so just as as we all learned with rinses yesterday they could encumber five hundred thinking right now but ok so members the vote we're taking now yes means we take out the economic revolving fund no means we leave the resolution as a me and just to help out with the mayor if he's looking at the minutes of this meeting the department of transportation also that's part of their responsibilities as planning and implementation of all modes of transportation including those in the air and those on the water and land we subsidize our bus system right now we don't subsidize airlines or ferries but if it is in with the purview of the department o for looking into it it's correct yes that is correct and i'm looking at all avenues and you know not only depending on the county  whatever may be available out there to support this vital transportation for for the men again i hope we can move forward and get this resolution but to have or what a special care i just want to express my support oh one more time for this resolution you know when it was first presented and i looked at it i had my concerns because we don't have details but there's something that i know very clearly and that is we need to help our brothers and sisters we need to help economic development on that and  willing to come to us with a budget amendment you know suggestion as to how to help this very still alive we're not only helping them with helping ourselves you know it's really difficult to go on an airplane i'm not looking forward to doing it this afternoon i'd much rather be on the ferry and it provides an option to so many people it's kind of a lifeline and so i really really asked my colleagues let's get this out and hopefully the mayor will respond with some proposal which we're going to have the final say on any way and all of this information that we want and i know we all want information i want it to i want to know is this a one time thing is five hundred thousand a good number how is it going to be used what are the finances we all want to know all these things we need to get going and out was consistency with this body and making sure that when we when we do deliberate it's done in committee and obviously we've taken much of half an hour to twenty five money vote that we were taking it would be absolutely deliberated so and we are doing things well within the council rules by not requiring a waiver or referral  representative an alternate to the i state association of counties executive committee mr goodman thank you i move we have the requirement of committee referral and report for the proposed resolution attached to county for a term commencing july first two thousand and fifteen and ending on june thirtieth two thousand and sixteen the resolution would also appoint council member glad to see bison as the maui county council's alternative representative to the  same one year term mr member victory knows considerable experience with the second executive committee will continue to be a benefit in this vital role as well member bice's participation and guidance with h had before you kind of communication fifteen dash one zero two from counsel chair white transmitted to the county clerk a proposed resolution entitled urging the state legislature and governor to support legislation facilitating public part private collaboration for public hospitals  along since i don't have a walter concrete that's the way it is i don't trust everything i read either and so the status of what is the actual situation o can tell you the delegates were concerned about the level of service that would be provided to the residents of this just like education and so i think it is the job of the legislature to fit the level of service to the community desires and find the money it shouldn't be this is such much money we only willing to give you we don't want to deal with losses and therefore what is the level of service  i'm going to be supporting this might support for the hospital is not new and i've been involved in certificate of need passes i helped make this a hospital and i'm going to support the west my hospital and i'm going to support solving this problem that we don't have a choice we have no options when we're sick when we're going to have a baby we're going to whatever is happening  we need it and my family people i care about and everybody who depends on them our life is on the line we're not talking about widgets making widgets we talking about people's lives and it scares me a lot when i hear stories about closing service is laying off people you know we're not talking about fairy it's another story in a very very important but you know when you're talking about saving a life to me there's no room for let's think about it we need to maintain services we need to have the best services you know if you have the ability to go to to go to the mainland to go to honolulu to go wherever you need to get the that's one story but if you're just a regular average person and you wind up at moema really needing services they need to be there for you thank you for the discussion members at me in this resolution on the last whereas where it states the visitor industry is dependent on the perception it just strikes me as odd that there's this i don't know a facade or perception that something is and it carries on the perception a reality of high quality health care i mean it would suffice it be strong if it took out the perception part because the visitor industry is the pendant on high quality health care being available so i just thought that just i don't think they're the reason for the word perception is it when when visitors come to maui they they feel they're coming to a place that they're going to get good health care and so they have that perception they're going to be more likely to come in here i don't know what the what the number of visitors versus residents are but i've heard that there are at times more visitors in the emergency room than there are residents this is a facility it's vital to our visitor industry because  when they come here they want to feel like they're being very well taken care of and i know from many of my visitors there have been some there have been lots of accolades from people that are  you know that gone to the either the emergency room or a bit method for a variety of things so i send them there with you know the confidence that they're going to be very well taken care of and taken care of by people  i think it's important that we show our our level of support to urge the the legislature to resolve this issue either by providing the funding or by providing the appropriate private public private partnership any further discussion seen all ok moving along i was going to bring up the clerk would you please without objection members i'd like to call up to communication fifteen one one zero you know the county council will come back to order will go back to mr couch thank you mr chair i move to waive the requirement of committee referral and report for the proposed resolution attached to county communication fifteen dash one one zero as provide prepare and submit to each council an operating budget for the next fiscal year the byelaws also require that after considering of the budget by the council's eight sack must adopt the budget at its annual meeting approval of the motion to waive the requirement of the committee referral and report by two thirds  vote of the entire membership of the council will enable the council to consider the budget prior to a meeting in june without the need for scheduling a special committee meeting for this purpose during the budget any further discussion on the committee kind of communication fifty three from the mer transmitting to the council the matter relating to the proposed fiscal year two thousand and sixteen budget including the following budget proposal to a proposed bill entitled a bill for an ordinance relating to the operating budget for the county of  the fiscal year july first two thousand and fifteen to june thirtieth two thousand and sixteen three a proposed bill entitle the bill for an ordinance relating to the capital program for the fiscal year ending june thirtieth two thousand and sixteen for a proposed bill entitled the bill for an ordinance eighty million eight hundred eight thousand two hundred fifty dollars aggregate principal amount of general bonds of the county of maui for the purpose of providing funds to pay all or part of the costs of appropriations for public improvements of and for the county in the form denominations or may or should not be applied to those purposes in directing such proceeds to other public improvements or authorized purposes of the county a proposed bill entitled a bill for an ordinance authorizing the mayor of the county of maui to enter into intergovernmental agreements for loans from the state of control revolving fun for various wastewater projects fiscal year two thousand and sixteen budget ordinance seven a proposed bill entitle the bill for an ordinance authorizing the mayor of the county to enter into an intergovernmental agreement for a loan from the state of choice drinking water treatment revolving loan transmitted to the council a proposed bill entitled the bill for an ordinance amending the fiscal year two thousand and fifteen budget for the county as it pertains to appendix b revenues fees rates assessment and taxes solid waste management fund charges for current services fees refuse collection kind of communication fifteen us one zero seven from the director of public works transmitting to the council a proposed bill in titled a bill for an ordinance amending chapter ten point four for my county code relating to special stops land use committee kind of communication fifteen dash one zero eight for the planning director results by the department of police and department the prosecuting attorney kind of communication fifteen dash one eleven from the director parks and recreation transmitted to the council a proposed bill entitled the bill for an ordinance authorizing the mare of the county of maui to enter into an intergovernmental agreement with the state of  as it pertains to appendix a part one grant revenue schedule of grants by departments and programs office of america away state energy office thank you i add a twenty thousand grant from the hawaii state energy office to support the two thousand and fifteen energy conference that was held on march twenty five to twenty seven the county was a sponsor of the conference that featured experts from across the nation presenting the latest trends in electric utility industry and public policy influencing customer choices i ask for the member support thank you thank you is there any further discussion members all those in department of public works federal highway administration federal aid and other transportation grants by two million nine hundred twenty five thousand five hundred five hundred fifty and to change the title of the grant to more accurately reflect the current federal program funds will be used to supplement the fiscal year two thousand and fifteen appropriations for the following projects pavement reconstruction number two hansen road improvements and number three seven two thousand and fifteen is an amendment to add one hundred in one thousand grant from the state of hawaii department of transportation safer outs to school program special fun this program enables encourages children to walk or bicycle to school by providing safe paths the funds will be used for the workshops to engage schools to explore projects that may benefit their students and the planning and design of new projects i asked for the member support thank you for any further discussion county federal aid projects for eligible roads and activities the agreement will formalize the process for implementing federal aid highway projects by establishing the responsibilities of the state and the county for utilizing federal aid funds and implementing projects the agreement also establishes new requirements relating to the coordination of projects with the new but your politan planning organization estimates of available federal aid funds and agreement has never existed i respectfully ask for this council support of this measure thank you very much thank you and you further discussion members see none all those in favor please signify by saying