when i was in practice i used to get really bothered by sentencing policy sometimes because it seem like when i get criminal defense my clients don't get punished much for hurting people but they got very severely punished if they offended the court by doing what they promised the court they wouldn't do again and that that was really the motivation or for the harshness toward recidivism it was that the probation officer felt like he'd been gold if but he'd given my client a break and then my client we offended it was more like offending the court was a bigger deal than hurting somebody that's wrong just flat morally  wrong and you know none of us are immune from that kind of concern however i have a real hard time distinguishing this case from end right where the guy just shot less than one hundred  fifty bucks worth of videotapes and had as and i'm wondering is there any value in this case to deferring submission and giving you a chance to talk with opposing counsel necessarily share the same views at one concern that i would have representing an institutional litigant one concern i did have why did represent institutional that against is the generation a bad precedent f and i'm sure that will be an ingredient and the second thing that i want to tell you and this is very important  clerk a tape of today's proceedings let us back for yourself and then when you talk to mr lockyer and whatever other supervisors you talk to play the tape so that they are not dependent on your understanding of what took place and are able to form judgments based on a first hand familiarity with what my coll difference so that the court was clearly acting clearly contrary to supreme court authority i believe that there is i believe i strongly believe that there is a difference to where the supreme court would take a look i mean it would mean your cause prior sat if you look at the conduct it's not attack rated as you see in a lot of cases but the classifications correct and the judge was understanding at the time at that particular time i did have a drug problem and i had ordered the he ordered me to sort of a one year county jail which i served six years and my family like my girlfriend and you know the rest of my family and to to see what i had put them through as well as from them and under this law you're your place you're given twenty five years to life the place you want to for individual it may not be the most serious it's not like rape robbery or murder though in your case it was technically robbery it would have been five but so we get some people that just won't stop doing them so what else are we going to do had how well what response can you make so that i was strongly believe that there is just you know as a as a result of this a third person who does you know two or three  prison yeah oh yeah yeah i need to wake up every morning in prison you know you never going to you never going to get out and it was something it was like it was a life experience  but i turned my life over the lord and so there's a spiritual thing right there for me that where where i had you know the christian character come in my life in play and healing and that's what i've been depending upon  in prison all the time and we all believe the same thing that justice will prevail on this unit and i feel that i honestly feel that the wrong cases were presented in for this for this issue and i don't think that the door council you have no time but i'll give you thirty seconds