audience and we are going to be the audience to be very comments on the audience now for this it would normally be for things that are not on the agenda and so the the senior center in discussion about the senior center growth in the teens is on the agenda tonight so when we get to that i will out members of the public to make a comment or ask questions at that time but if someone has a question about something that's not on the agenda tonight now would be the time to ask it  state grants so there's a fourteen to one leverage you know municipal that's been in the regional planning commission and then you can see your representatives it halfway eighteen i don't think that's changed forever by nineteen sitting thank you for that opportunities correct yeah so you know we're programmed every well actually one thing i should add in this conversation is around thanksgiving time we put out a request for projects for the following fiscal year are unified  priority we will eventually get to it so by i guess just for my own edification and so by being a separate means simple entity we are able to take advantage of this whereas if we are not so we compete against start off by saying that with this is this discussion is not about this discussion is not about cutting back any service is cutting back any funding cutting back anything that's currently being provided to the senior center we had wanted this primarily because we wanted if anything or are thinking do we need to do we do  into the senior center and with budget season coming up now would be the time to be looking at that and if we're going to be doing any significant things that would be the time we would need to have that discussion so i want to ease anyone's and i'll give everybody else the same opportunity so where we left off before we had some questions about bussing we had questions about  organizational structure we had questions about how the senior center has grown in terms of population so we had just a lot of general questions about what's going on and we  at the center just basically tripling of the last few years and but it seems to be holding steady or if you have a sense that it could get bigger if we had more space i believe this w go over the numbers here so we have known it looks i think the other three hundred three total i think the two that are really for us there is a hundred and twenty four from the town side of the village in seventy nine or so from within the village and this but if you could just summarize for me either one of you or both in order are you worried what would be the biggest other this face more space what would be the biggest need that you really have what would you say we would like to have something we were not do we know that we would like to be able volunteer hours which is incredible but that those hours were not heard the buzzing is not heard of those hours so can you tell me a little bit about those hours the volunteers and investing and then who supervises th what if someone calls today and says i'd like to ride the bus on thursday is that possible or not because they have to fill us up occasion process first which i think is great that there's agency we provide the trained bus drivers who are the senior transportation as i understand it the ija here buses are driven by employees of the the seventy five which was a bench we hope was some of these mechanisms because you're working together your question before is also the senior center here wonderfully run it is not the only senior activities the town or the village offers if they have other programming because there are other facilities available for that programming and other teachers of those classes available so we have a movie out here what's being done to cars and lunches and other things and people are welcome to do it but they're also having wanted to partake in other things i also think that one of the things you'll see  like i like the idea though that if we can bring ninety to the center to allow them to do some some of the scheduling and registrations oh we do take ch s we take checks for water and sewer and this buildings we can to judge the program so we can figure that out we can figure that to we see opportunities if if if  you're talking about having just having seen all seamless registration signing of the programs and so fourth oh yeah mabel street here having the same software everybody the same everyone has a say so software on their desk maybe state as the senior population grows it were just much more than just what people might think is a social club it's much more than that so you know i think that people need to understand more of what we do over come you're not here to cut programs from have you mary starting at the overtime hours have not been incorporated tend to previous budgets but will be considered center hours will also be considered as an alternative to the cost increases now that kind of sends the seniors a message that you're that essex town and village and thinking about cutting the hours for the senior center and programs and taken away programs that most of the seniors work on different activities to raise money for these programs we pay extra to go to some of these programs that help fund them so this is a big concern for the seniors  and see if that's feasible to keep do we with her position with the town for home has been going on for not just one year the problem's been going on since my husband and i have been members of the senior center and every time we come to a meeting or it's talked about oh we're going to do that so we're going to do that for the senior center but it doesn't improve any you kno support comps like our court made or the way and has been working hours and hours and hours for the seniors and yeah everybody jake here nothing happens it into our day servicing the seniors servicing all the programs because she does so much for the senior center that it's time that the trust one of the the difficult part is that unlike a business where we have a bill that had might have a lot of flexibility so i was working a lot of overtime to say ok that's great we can just paid more you just more governments we have to horse we're going to spend on this thing and this thing in this thing it had a time and we have a little bit of leeway to go over that but we don't have much otherwise the voters say well you exceeded your budget so that's that's kind of it's a little trickier sometimes it is in a municipal government structure there that it would be if it was a private or nonprofit organization or something like that but this is exactly the kind of information that we wanted to get go we get to the budget parking spaces actually three inches of parking space is to me and parking and also the handicapped accessibility to the building i mean that is for seniors and so what doors we have to get into to get into the building there's no windows or anything going to someone is leaving the building the same time as sr is opening the door and as he was trying to push the door open the senor post falls every time in and out of and that regarding the parking yeah we were given seven spaces three were taken away and now that the fire department has seven spaces of their own we're asking looked into it who was supposed to do the research to find out whether it was seven or just a few or what was going not advocate who did you know something to look into it so we're just asking you know we were promised you would look into it and we still haven't heard so we just want to bring it back to your attention could you please look into it and see what we can do about that and then the third issue i said was regarding the vampire our jihad drivers are constantly getting the struggle they can't park in the the village area because it prevents people from getting in and out of the parking spaces they pm park over by the fire department where there's a clear sign that says for harvey because it was one of the base of the trucks getting out we understand that but we were also told that part of the process of helping out the parking was going to be assigning spaces for the fire department and getting rid of all the green space next to the senior senator graham so that r b s could pull it and put their list down so people can get safely given out without blocking and i have been recently talking to someone saying how i live here at six and found out that you know thinking that takes time and the other not when you're in the other thing as we can we don't want to remove the concrete that is separating the curfew lots from each other because then you get passed through people driving through that which would be good strophe if that was allowed to close off the driveway just so that people were using the driveways to cut through to pearl street that are very expensive yet now that we don't want them there is very expensive and this isn't the only building so we would have to be retrofitted for sure if i had someone reach out to me after our last meeting and not the seniors and the education if you think pinning the state down on one they're going to do a project try pinning the federal government down on what they believe there's no model paperwork that goes on for a federal project so if they say spring twenty nineteen that's a beginning to begin yeah you know i would add one thing it was really problematic of this whole thing the project manager from philadelphia he's an eagles and she gave me a lot of  inside and the other thing is it is work that is is happening next to it and jason active rail line that is going to slow things down to a pace they will need flaggers they will do or they're going to have to make this a slow speed zone and it's it's it's going to take a while as can disrupt our rail road  hoped that there would have been some interface in that they might have been done some they might have helped us out a little bit there it really i think it is a limited case of one of the parking maybe to remember to i don't remember jim with one or two of the of that's right so i would like a motion it would probably be good if i had a motion to authorize the village president to involved so i took that to fill in the village policy the town policy the meals he keep model purchasing policy and then i attended a women are on purchasing policy that had one from and it has a ten thousand dollars so i had started when we started this process we had the major problem bridges had been twenty five and then it was suggested by the department heads that that was too low did i think they they put more into the time on sliding to lauren and sara and their work on this it was quite durable they were collaborative they took a lot of and ultimately with this is we're also looking at your time and not bringing everything and sometimes government gets a bad rap for how long it takes us to do things and we're going to do  anyway because we don't have a choice so why go through all the approvals you hired your ministry hired your finance department and others to do smart things in your name and sometimes you just have to move the haster and this allows us to do but still brings a lot of the controls back to you because although this is sound bad on camera forty thousand dollars doesn't buy what it used to we spent a lot more than that and so we spent on lot more than that on our properties on any given project we spent on a lot more than roads and bridges and railings and other things so these things will constantly come back to you but it's the smaller but the budget been approved by voters staff are going to go and buy stuff and whatever you feel we need to buy you can buy and we're not going to have a gym by the trustees and the manager assuring that the completion is not restricted so when it comes out you actually approving the purchase is to happen i guess can you show me where that isn't here for our own there are points in times where having a boss with competition in house also that if there are the small small organisations trying to increase their their business in it so the reason i'm asking is just simply because of that some of the things that we were doing involved many of us using our you know phones and what not and there was a free information request that involves somebodies personal and we realized this position was not in the this position we are asking to add into the list she has started about a week and a half ago doing a is going to be transferred it's just taking money from this movement over here we're not increasing it sounds like word we're increasing government and government spends is really a new position is it sounds like we're go and we can try to make it as the storm was as we can if it starts going into full time it will it will bump against each other priority or other priorities which is training and police officers  i think you all a town meeting and village and you're meeting her people and our own police department will say they're running called the cold call and we want them to do more getting out of the vehicles spending more time with the citizens seeing the businesses etc those are the types of activities so those are so from a step perspective we want to align the budgets a little better we want to address our property so that we are not we were more accountable to the money that we're spending and to the buildings that we own and so that you're going on the fifty thousand our air conditioner unit which should have proper maintenance inspection didn't and now it doesn't work we want to make sure some of you watching those things who has the ability and wherewithal to know that it needs to be done and then the police et and then the other thing is there are alignment costs you guys met a while back in this budget you have the fire department trying to align their pay scales that was budgeted for half a year in next year's budget is the other half of their cost and so we're going to have to try to move that in with everything else that's going on there for the property maybe it's the doesn't win out because the fire got this in the seniors more immediate than a little bit maybe think about it a little bit differently you have a plumbing issue that's going on and to bring the library their first call is to the maintenance person they call the plumber the the plumber there yes it's got to happen is going to intervene see that's where you're going in maintenance it's like ok we have a new generator here in this building someone needs to make sure that there's a contract manager do that or someone who actually knows what i'm looking at when they say they're coming here do that those are the types of things that we don't do very we have we try but we don't do them very well you know understand  know and have great spirit as with get them over there possible that's a good suggestion one of the other things is we talked a little bit with the school district they have a million square feet under roof they have some experience with building n but it's a good question i'm sure i mean at the end i think overall the terms of budget i'm always concerned about trying to squeeze every dollar we can and do capital projects to try to get as much as we can and that's why asking to double the town the villages in contribution which is currently six thousand and the reason for that is that comcast has seen this year alone because of people cut the cord not subscribing to comcast  the budget has gone down fifty thousand dollars just this year on top of that there has been a change in accounting practices that comcast and other carriers like brunson telecom have to change their accounting practices in regards to bundled services so the dollar amount that the that they take a percentage of user fees out of to give johnson team their budget has gone down that was a one time head but the reduction in users is a serious said george and how you could when the difference is in your opinion of the town and the villages on the fair to the capital you know we do everything and so if you look into the very bottom of the spreadsheet whatever page you're on to see ending fund balance and if you follow that all the way over a from the way that that goes away is if we were to start this upcoming fiscal year that we're talking about planning for and working people and a half percent increase that at least temporarily goes away for f y twenty twenty sincerely not trying to throw a controversial racial into this but i have to say that since we're in this in the spirit of consolidation consolidating public works as we know significant tax revenue leaves the village about into the  out why did we take out a three and a half million dollar bond because we didn't have we hit the set we hit the wall that that's in this thing here yeah where we were a little you know you go whole and in the same year we took up the bond we're looking at and you do merge that money that you mine is yours and your residence because they approved it unless the other larger entity right so that's why the of itself regardless of what we hear i think it's just more of the perception that if the village is hoping to ease its tax burden and consolidate with the town that we go out and take out another multi auspices of you know i know is that hundreds of thousands of dollars but it is money that didn't get spent that we would have contracted to do and we're looking for opportunities to do that get if we just did the cost of living like a three percent rate a half percent tax increase overall where we might white somebody some suggestions to squeeze some extra dollars in order to meet the ten percent or twelve percent he just so one thing to just keep in mind as well as construction costs on average three to five percent every year right so that you would have a seven and a half percent gives us a little bit of a cushion to visit more than what we're doing today  move further and further into a line and further and further into caution it gets really complicated and take all of this and then times and by a percentage you get an answer versus having to have a binder and stuff how you did it or why you did and the memory of why you did it the assistant to position that you guys just put in your stuff that went from one hundred percent village form to the position salary benefits to i believe  find ways to work together for what we need to as you start doing the budget if you keep doing that in the individual minds it has that opportunity just be a mish mash ups and nobody will understand but it allows you so it workers came got out his our dog did a little bit of business on the side got ready for work and walked about one hundred feet into some bushes and said there's a guy i'm awesome and do the program as you probably would understand once we do get it we we would get on a whole list so if somebody wanted to use our dog we do have mutual aid etc etc on those types of things and he says as a village residence in two thousand and six and here husband have elementary middle school age children the request was to go to if that sentence could be the person's name introduce yourself as it was resident since two thousand and six when her two children were in elementary and middle school and i would just replace those first two sentences and then the other one is