first of all like the title like don't care it's fine i'm wondering as i've been sleeping up to this point well i figured the force real way you know that would be better might be a more intriguing title know i think not to underscore too fine too fine too but there's obviously without making this too big but there's there's a which i'm going to i'm going to spread out reference again it's better if better that way they're not doing what you're doing a lot are not even there for can't see them but you know not only was it created by this one person and then saw through all the film which i think is is a bit unique in how massive it is because when you look at other large enormous universes that have been created  he is getting to kind of pass the baton on i'm trying to think of other series where there's been i mean maybe james bond maybe dr who where there's there's been kind of this continual passing of the baton  mean going into the first three episodes one two three i remember being hopeful pessimistic at the same time you know thinking it can't be as good and really it won't be and there's no way can recapture that innocence that hopefulness that youthfulness and you know i love star wars but let me go off the beaten path here and say this the movie is not great the concept is great like that but let me give  another example i always talk about video games i want to interrupt with their honors now shot incredible going to the movie the video game pac man is not great but what it became was great and its essence t film star wars is not great but its concept and its execution and the life beyond behind it or beyond it is i mean nobody thought this was going to be as great huge mundus as it was and it became something far greater than it could ever become  godfathers kind of like that but that's a great film i think empire strikes is a very great film with terrible writing the dialogue is horrendous but the film's  great but it became something far greater than it was because of the myth those in the lore and the original concept behind it i mean taking two pretty unique ideas and blending him together  have excited but i can't see me ever recapturing that because my expectations are so high for it and if it was a perfect film it still wouldn't need it i mean godfather three was a great film but compared to the other two it's mediocre at its greatest and it was still nominated for best picture and it was still same two guys putting it together and a lot of the same characters a lot of the same actors but it can't recapture that level of excitement enthusiasm it just can't so i'm hopeful i'm excited i'm dismay has not failed lately with the marvel properties at all which is why i'm thrilled that it's being turned over  to the disney corporation was the other comparison i was thinking of right now there is another film o star trek films that i went in with low expectations for and i think people star trek fans love it i mean it's not so it's not the same it's not the same no kind of concept it's much more of an action movie than a science my movie i think we talked about this before it's you know it's not it's not the same style it's not the same it's really not the same anything that the change it there you can do things you can change how it is you can change it a little bit you can change it a lot yeah because it is good because you said you weren't like excited for episode one and i remember but i was i was hoping i could as a mystic we couldn't wait for all right you go stand in line and you were waiting in line you were saying that you know i was out of as big of a deal anymore because we've had that that many times since then but that had been the first time in a long long time there was a special edition like what ninety six ninety seven i met where there was that you know yeah that anticipation or that oh i remember going to see in the movies in the movie theater because it had the phantom menace trailer i didn't want to see the movie i want to see the phantom menace trailer buttons i wan say you know i think maybe the water boy might have been one or two i forget who was in the theater at the time but right we would go to the movies just to see the trailer because trailers were online but there you could know there was nothing and it was you know the excitement of it was you had i mean ever watching the footage of the cars driving by that same set of the death star over and over again showing that same trench and using only the black screen to show space because they didn't have the capability and then watching in the empire where they had the ship's going over hot with a white background and then seen on the special edition v h s tapes where they showed the original footage of it and they had to have that opacity where you c see through the ship but also see it behind but because they turned it so quickly you didn't even really notice that you were seen through the ship itself they were doing the most they could with what little they had at that time and then i f you want me to be cynical returned the jet i got too big for their bridges and they did too much stuff i mean and that movie half hour and i'm a happy boy i don't think it can recapture that level of excitement that it had but i'm very optimistic seeing what disney has done with marvel films and changing those concepts completely but still doing a great job with it the same way abrams did with star trek  and i think you're hard when you say divided i think the hard nosed star trek people hated those films just because they went in with a mission day and yeah i mean it's very different in this and we all know that harrison ford won't sign up for something unless his characters in or go into it i mean probably the one that he didn't do that for was return of the jet i only because he felt a kind of sense of obligation to george lucas  fish out because as all the rumors went it wasn't integral to that we know that it was character wasn't really it was kind of a side line character in that i mean it was really luke and yet their story but you know and he wanted to so cool and then you go back and now i watch it and i'm like you could have not had any more in that movie and would be just as great of a movie and it feels now after the first time it's like amazing that he's in it was terrible i mean it was to that felt she warned and stupid spock what i thought was a nice oman is like a hey we still love you fans you know he's out here we're showing you what he's got and well part of the part of the old star trek fans who don't like it is they think things are like they're giving you spock like i know people like in the new movie they say well let's use that ship from the mud incident and like the mud is a character from the sixty's who was like beloved he was like this random guy was on the  popped up a couple times but they just mentioned i can passing a let's get mud ship and say well where do we get it why are we talking about just just don't throw this random fact at me inspect me to be happy about it you know some of the ocean like they were like they wanted to be explained to them they wanted to make sense they don't want just these random drop ins is what bothered a lot of people about star trek and spock wasn't such a random drop in but he kind of was to some degree like my grandson you could have the movie and not had it and still maybe  a part of the probably doesn't bother me i mean i treat him differently i don't look at him as the same thing but part of the problem with that is i think that the level of star trek involvement you've got a spark probably a smaller segment of people who like star trek than like star wars but their level of commitment to it is higher is far greater then annie one could ever be i mean just the linguistics aspect of our own there is so writing the cling on all that stuff i mean it's not i don't know if i admire it i certainly don't understand it but there is a life of that within them and there's a lot right violating any part of that because it's become the canon whereas i think in star wars lucas sort of picks and chooses what he likes all or not piece and as you see fit but you don't really need to watch the clone wars cartoons between two and three to make sense of what happened there but it's kind of a neat story to put that stuff in there certainly that  back there was a lot just love all your v h s copies i do i do you ever get the full screen v h s not special edition ones i have no idea screen v h s non special edition right the first release because they haven't done the widescreen non special edition versions right there right it was a now i'm so i started getting confused because i think i found seventeen copies of revenge of the sith on d v d and i was like why do i have such a sense of them some have a coin some of the special collectors desk i'm like what i bought this is ridiculous but i have  else i basically thrown out there just to hear you want to talk about here just to see how bad it looks so speaking of disney and bad no that's not necessarily bad so story story i think it's sort of the admission that pixar is not the juggernaut it was and i think we really saw that with ours to you there's always something you know you can under so many great things it's ok to do a lot of good stuff they do have an interesting movie coming down the pike for next year inside out which is looking at the emotions of a teenage girl and the characters are these emotions and stuff but it seems like everything else is you know monsters  i want to say when the disney pixar agreement came through before it was there they gave the rights to all sequels to disney so if they split at that point then it would be like if they made the but they liked it so much they put out the others made a boatload of money and now they have a sequel i haven't seen either one but i've heard the sequel supposedly pretty good buys here were answered through like not even an animated feature film which i know that's because cars two was a sequel and not as good or story three was brilliant and monsters university was a prequel thing so in this micro time this tiny segment of time cars two monsters university and toy story three you got a lot of sequels in there but outside of those three movies and toy story two way back when all original concepts so good for them mean they tried to stay away from sequels and i remember in their canon for a long run i mean it was like we were not going to we did toy story two but now we're done right we're not going to do any sequels we don't want to be a part of them that's why just the sort of had the rights to those levels  and you know it's hard you know i don't want to you can't expect one company to produce a legendary hit after you know each time out you know i know there's you know pixar set the bar so high for themselves in the beginning that i think  it's probably a bit and they have one stumble the stumble is cars two everything else in there can't everything else they've made as bad success somewhere between pretty darn good i think the next lowest would probably be monsters university which is still a really good film too breathtakingly spectacular changed your life kind of awesome i mean we talked on the last show about ratatouille being like what the heck was up with that and it just turned out to be this beautiful piece of just touching and wonderful abandoned it was brilliant it was just on was released before the muppet films and it was a lovely little piece it was you know seven a half minute thing where this micro buzz lightyear figure pretended to be the real buzz lightyear it was spectacular i'm going to shoot ahead and then now we come back to this if you find information looking for it because i have a very very important story which is also a sorry i apologize a bit old but our first time to talk about show there's a there's a hunger for this type of stuff you know this is the lesson that i think a lot of people learn is yeah some success and then you let it sit as you talk about you know let it sit for a little bit build the demand back up and universal stuff is spectacular i mean when we went there my wife kept saying you do whatever you want you take care of whatever you want i mean her ownership there and i heard to go she actually broke down with this and there was some back and forth there that disney wanted to get into greater ownership but there were demands she had made things that she said these are going to be ultimately my control or my decision you're not going to supersede this for example no one else can ever play harry potter except for daniel radcliffe no one else to ever play character outside of you know one deceased actor and then when great plays and those are her decisions that way i can go to a park and see seventeen harry potter's wandering around her ownership has made something brilliant out of those two arcs where they were sort of second more talking five years away basically but ninety percent the world's population ninety percent of the big number of population over at the age of six is a sickly text basically doubling our i can tell you that will not happen it seems like a boy i know at least one young person in my household who will not happen probably the most amazing introductory video