for i think that's the correct title and some years has been seven or eight thousand dollars allotted to that one year recently there was nothing nowhere does it show hoping to kitty  something with revenue from logging at mobs and and then there was another one and they can come to me and then they combined them and it's to spend there's other then being labeled open space but there are no when it got to the select board the select board decided to not allow internally live science which includes the message boards and neon signs in town at all so that's where stance and i think the planning commission was having a discussion of amending their report that goes back to the psych ward but as warned by the select words the regulations now do not allow the planning commission themselves about what constitutes design and what you measure it in its candle power or things like that and so we said you know you need to really figure out what you're talking about before we issue came up with with the school the essentially the the zoning is is silent so or sufficiently ambiguous as to be effectively silent and so they passed on and then the the court came back and said no you have to you have to decide so rather than have a continuation of your ambiguity and we said fine no until you've sorted out what you'd like to do and then we'll entertain that answer was yes it's still a little confusing i i confess  for my own part i i i voted that we nix it in the in the hearing that we have because i didn't understand the way it was written that the way the planning commission had written and what the thinking was it was firm but he won't be taking on new clients and he won't be involved in the the business of the firm but he will still be able to advise us as of june thirtieth two thousand and fifteen that's his last day he'll have his license sort of them to practice so he suggested as we're doing you know start the search sooner rather than later so that he can assist with the thorough response and so i'd likely it would likely be out next week or so and then give him four weeks to respond then we should be planning you know we can do a process for your viewers and if you recall that town meeting there was a motion made to look at taking over portions of fifteen right the technical name of the as a class one highway  but we have already had studies in the works currently in the works with the r p c so what we notice is that heinz bird has done a quarter or plan and they have a section in their record or plan and looking at the same issue you know looking today once you we decided to take over state high was it because a class what you end up with a lot more responsibility here you're getting there you're responsible for traffic signal maintenance  street lights bridges and called bridges being a big one sidewalk but that's the same as if it's just a state highway you know all the striping and plowing and park your thing you're not responsible for is resurfacing but you are responsible for rebuilding and rebuilding is a lot more expensive than resurfacing and the way it works out is you currently receive about eleven thousand little over eleven thousand dollars per mile if you take it over yeah if you take it over a year for a year and i did so looking and trying to avoid bridges which you don't want to we have plenty necessarily want to anymore yeah if you were to start on this side of the bridge down here and extend a little past silly hill that's a little under a mile and it's about three quarters of a mile and then towards tall from the corner here in philly then if you go down to riverside if you start on david's side of the bridge and head towards the town line that again is only about half mile or so in total be about a mile and a half so you're looking at maybe sixteen selling oh well i just do the whole route i was trying to figure out to david side of the bridge over over well i don't think that the states give us just do that and skip over the bridges i was looking at  no and the level with it being a main artery the level of plowing is but is going to be more than what we're usually accustomed to i'm not saying it's you know but this i want to give you this it out the biggest the big and then on the flip side is just because we ask for certain portions yes as mean as we think it doesn't necessarily mean that that well there's a logic to those portions they're the ones that run through the village rea and also you know eliminate us having to deal with the traffic light brown trace because you know we don't want the gap i don't think we we don't want to have to put have million and a half is going to or whatever it is to put it in the because maybe they're there they're starting to understand that people want traffic calming the plow trucks i think primary consideration yes water you know yeah you know we have to think about the whole of following up the agency saying if we were to pursue this you know what from your perspective would you want us to take over you know would be a larger segment than what they really walk that's what happened  that money left over from the big one and then again so i don't know if any of you are going to the town fair if you do want to go contact paul and so if someone wants to go town pay for you write your whatever get dirty right now i know i've been to in the past but know that but the actual voting part the part that i just signed up for officially that i don't have to register for is at two o'clock when i have to be there is he at two o'clock to vote  of the architectural standards and there was a discussion about where in a public hearing would be and there was discussion of the twenty first but the public hearing wasn't version of the code that they can have at their next meeting the next meeting that they will be discussing that we should hear from yeah i mean you  the concept would be that this would be then the document that would be before the public for the public meeting with architects yeah yeah in the planning commission just raise questions or do they also discuss and decide based on what those questions are because it sounds like brian is going to take those questions and turn them into amendments but it doesn't sound like the planning commission at least the little twenty minutes that i popped in for the meeting of the concerns that were raised in trying to address those concerns through proposed revision right so but on the way here but it seems like to be a waste of time if only one person had that concern and something but the other piece of it too is the more time we spend with the thinking about the back through again the more time we have the better get our arms around this different type of regular and be able to not this is not really trying to make sure that the development can occur in such a way that it doesn't that it it blends with what's already existing and that's that's what's really different about this project of this from everywhere so that's why it is i just it's not the only one in the world no no but you know the ones around here tend to be that's right how likely it is they're going to get to being well to the point of being like a warning meeting at your next meeting we are concerned i mean they all concerned about this the substandard issues that have been raised by and large not a problem this is this is a work in progress we are concerned about of being bottled up for a long time while without putting it out to the public and it just stays in this plan a commission to go around around around around it doesn't come out that even that we that we're not that's a prospect we're not pleased that we're not arguing about any of the substantial concerns that they or the public plan but we want the process moving forward and we want the public public to have a chance after all of the public's been involved in this for ten years lots of people and we're really fairly concerned about the planning commission not letting it out of the camera out of committee as it were ecause there were only a couple people on the plane commission name is there wasn't a priority that's probably because it was initiated from like staff and not from you guys but it was that helped us so much because they would have understood i mean the backgrounds like the work that they've done in our mind i mean one of the questions i heard the other night from the public was who are these people they don't know anything about vermont but they've done a lot of projects in vermont and they do have experience in new england people like so this kind of reflects what the public told them they liked and it was not this is make it right i didn't make it up from alaska or from and said you know they made it up from vermont little bit of a misunderstanding of their role in this case because it isn't absolutely their responsibility to sell it as other cases in the past it has been and this is it isn't there it is their their responsibility as well as the the expert body to comment on it's not their responsibility the south and they shouldn't feel they've got to come in with a complete package that is you know presented to the population and say there it is you know wrapped up and we have to defend everything in it we have to sell it we're responsible for it that's not what thing i think you've covered it well but one thing that they are looking at is a mention just by my observance of the whole situation is how those regulations they're kind of checking to make sure who motion to go in motion to the out anyway that's what i have so i and the others i make a motion to approve the minutes of august twenty first as amended state actually marked it so hopefully that will be done soon  well i will let you know that there is now a new exhibit in the town hall or enough of stairs it was called think square or interprets a square so that's why but it's a very diverse subject matter but it's because like this one down here is painted over crossword puzzles and then the other interpretation is the black framed one underneath the it from that the cost of the generator pumps to keep the water out while they were doing the walls and one of the walls they poured too high which we were able to remedy by adding more gravel s