group filed an adversary proceeding seeking to review a recheck the state court foreclosure for the past four years five years now we have been really getting in federal court  first if my memory is right i had a hearing when i was sitting in for judge martinez a year and a half or two years ago in one of the related cases i don't think i issued any merit space rulings but i want to i want to make sure that your recollection is the same as mine and that there aren't any issues with my from your perspective with my sitting on this case i don't think there are far behind but i certainly wanted to hear from court what maybe the bankruptcy court to some degree was that it wasn't trying to upset any of the state court judgments but rather trying to reconcile the foreclosure judgment by the way was still ignored by the bankruptcy court and the district court that fifteen page order granting foreclosure did all the reconciliation necessary in this case judge coroner order went through all those priority list and her order was the last in time so if we apply the less than time doctrine stablished in the ruby case we don't we don't have that the judge from my confession should not be given any full faith and credit because you process violation by the new york court when it entered the joints when and remember this judge was entered wrong and i submit to you it's possible that she could have been wrong but the remedy was to go to the rd district court of appeal not to file an adversary proceeding in the bankruptcy court in fact judgments rendered before the federal proceedings commenced and inviting the bankruptcy court to review the reject those judgments this case meets all the criteria that action will set out  select the was not a party but selected appeared at least three times during two thousand and fifteen in front of the court not through her tried to intervene and was not allowed to read seems to me it was an r t c it was a right at that point that satisfied the judge and under florida law d you have to have a stake in the litigation but the judge didn't stop there the judge went on as if there were a party and for each and every argument that they had made and rejected all of them so the only way that that you could say that they were not of already is through close your eyes to all the facts service and the district court also did not remember things you do i know you i know you sent the beginning that we don't need to reach the nd argument if we agree with you on the st but could you take the last minute you have that mr bush i don't recall whether you or horizon were involved in the matter before judge martinez which was one of the related cases but i want to put the same question to you that i put to mr ramirez about whether you think there are any problems with my sitting on this appeal which was before judge marino i don't believe so since your honor didn't decide anything in that case  and the district court here held that it it did this was one of those rare cases for two independent reasons st of all as judge pryor pointed out lest it was not a party to reinforcing that it has no right to appeal the foreclosure judgment under state law so for that reason alone the district court was correct in finding ripper feldman did not apply this case what stay resulting in the confirmation and substantial consummation of the plan as well as the fact that reversing the final judgment would alter the plan to which the debtor and creditors agreed and the case agreed you had secured creditors and that didn't object to the plan which if this foreclosure judgment is is reinstated would have no security and are being being paid out over time payments or anything else coming in the future you know there is ongoing pain is being made so my question is how much is left to be paid and how much is being over time i don't know the exact amount but it's i think it's going over one hundred thousand dollars  approximately how long are these payments supposed to be ongoing until the debtor satisfies obligations well i know that i mean i can say it's a long period of time because one of the predators is chase bank which has a mortgage on a mortgage loan on the property that the be moot and energy still didn't do so for another four months later so all this time all these things are going forward there's no time the average or being a stay and all these things go forward that that was in approach to rockefeller when the issue preclusion and claim pollution their bond by the order granting foreclosure which basically dealt with all their arguments they can't have a redemption before the final judgment if that's the case it would have been a payoff not of redemption redemption as something as given in the final judgment by the court and it never happened here because they filed for bankruptcy now as far as a fine a one thousand they keep selling the money that figure we dispute that the record does not support that argument of fire one hundred thousand dollars most of the money that was spent by his