of this committee and to ask everyone before we get started with introductions if you would please put your cell phones on silent mode so that we will not be interrupted by some noise or whatever it is that comes he needed to be attending to today and miss cochran as we all know is creating all that well but we expect any time she's hired to keep a good girl down and  also that non voting members of this committee are done guzmn and ricky who come out so they will probably not be joining us this morning those members that i mentioned are excused from the administration we have dave taylor the director of water supply good morning we have tom aqua who who is an engineer and he's sitting in the gallery there he's an engineer with the department of water supply we have sandy buzz our budget director good morning sandy wonderful support that i'm getting not only from the water department and administrative staff but from my own staff and council services everybody is working so hard in trying to get things done i want to thank you again in the district office is we have done office done can you hear us oh wonderful how are you this morning how's the weather wonderful well thank you for being there we have denise fernandez on the net and we want to weather report is it good you know we've all been dealing with so much rain it's kind of fun to watch thank you for being there denise we  a wonderful day no more flooding we hope oh wonderful well we should go outside and play i don't know why we're in this chamber but anyway i got to do what we got to do this morning request up to one minute to conclude so staff do we have anybody signed up to testify there's no one in the chamber signed up to testify oh ok well let me check with the district offices  i think you is there anyone in the gallery who has not signed up that would like to testify seeing nonmembers that we have no one in the gallery who wants to testify and no one in the district offices without objection  it's the acquisition of real property for expansion of the e o water treatment facility and development of white local well one the committee is in receipt of county communication fifteen dash two two eight from the department of water supply from the director transmitting a proposed resolution entitled approving the acquisition of approximately four point three one eight seven nine acres identified as text key numbers for the purchase of land to be used for expansion of the iau water treatment facility and development of way to cool well one members i am very pleased to be taking up this matter today and i really appreciate your being here because this is a matter of greve urgency this is very important to the county's water situation in central moey for a number of reasons and mr taylor will be explaining those reasons during the presentation i want to tell you however that i consider this almost a housekeeping measure because we've been working on this for a very very long time we set money aside for it to take care of this during the budget process realizing how critical this is we all know that chef thirty three has to be retired before we run into a serious water emergency and so i really seriously consider moving that  forward and i'm going to ask the rector taylor if he would do a presentation which i believe each of you have a copy of and take us through the history as well as what you need to do today mr go quickly through the regional improvement plan to show how this fits in detail descriptions of the properties in question funding how we want to buy out the appraisal in the purchase agreement and some other can do that the development  khela is responsible for and how it all fits together so the overall regional improvement plan as chair by some mentioned is to retire shaft thirty three replace it with four wells each of about one third million gallons per day also to expand the treatment plant itself based on our success and then of a contested case here and where we have more water allocated to that this will increase our surface water capacity up to from one point five million gallons a day to three point two million gallons a day and then also land for a new two million gallon tank that are responsible to build as part of their projects so visually where we are is it originally looked like just a few years ago so the department has been working on this overall regional effort to again replace the shaft thirty three with four wells and upgrade and expand almost finished almost ready to operate so that's where we are now what we're just a couple of months ago i think the council approved a well development deal with  to be built and dedicated to county and the rest of these projects in red that's what's on the agenda for today when it's all finished this is what it will look like we'll have of this future well too for other wells and the treatment plan expansion so that's the migration of what we've been working on for several years with the support of the council is shaft thirty three and the yell treatment plant upgraded to four wells and expanded  believe that today is the last time we need to come to council for this councils already over the past several years allocated design money construction money in this past year's budget the council allocated funds for the actual yele treatment plan expansion so this land acquisition for these parcels this is i believe the last time we need to come to council so the actual land it's being talked about today location this is the valley where the coup heights fork in the road is the roa in red that is what is on the agenda today this is the existing yell treatment plant site with our existing three million gallon tank and an existing well with reach one by one so the first parcel is for the future treatment plant and that will be a little bit malka of the existing treatment plant just on the other side of the meeker substation some sites use the second parcel is the one who well one site this was already built there's our c i p project and this is the we've been operating under right of entry can see the projects almost finished we just need a couple of trickle do some testing this project almost ready to go online again it's been funded previously this is just the final land acquisition to turn over the land to the county these are the two easements between the existing treatment plant site and one says malcolm this way so this is for the water line connection and the drain line connection  events and the final parcel is between the new treatment plant site and the old treatment plant site which is where the new two million gallon tank will go in reference this is a three million gallon tank will be a slightly smaller tank here of two million gallons that we put  into series shaft thirty three this is the location to be removed so this will be abandoned once the four wells are completed the existing treatment plant site the treatment plant itself is in red that's what this these machines are the site will keep using because the tank will be in use and the well will be in use but the actual treatment plant will be relocated to the new site and upgraded from one and a half million gallons to three point two million gallons here's the i could do what tank and well the first one that was built of the four that's already operational so you can see this is really just the final piece of the land to wrap up this project th regional improvement project that had been we've been working on for a number of years as far as the funding we have existing funding for land acquisition in f y fifteen that lapse is at the end of this calendar year and so we have enough money that has previously been allocated by the council in under strict and water funds under the county wide upgrades and replacement title that has enough money for this so the council's already allocated the funds for this and we're ready to move forward so that we don't lapse that money so that's the timeliness issue as far as the appraisal in the purchase agreement i think you're all familiar with the county code three point forty four with deals with this so it calls for appraisal negotiations dealing with the  department of finance and we've followed this and we've worked with the department of finance to get their their blessing on our procedures so the details of what we did we've worked with the owner for a number of more than a year closer to chew years we've gotten they didn't appraisal we didn't appraisal and that was the basis of these costs so the bottom line on the on the two appraisals so this this table shows the partial descriptions the five parcels on the left with the lot numbers is the next column a c m was our preserve so you see what our appraiser came up with with the costs how strong a group was there appraisal and then in the final c on the right was the agreed upon sums that that came up with the dollar value so we can see as the two appraisals are a little bit different for the different lots but the bottom line the total package of each five lots are appraisal came up with one point one million there appraisal came up with one point zero nine two million which are pretty close obviously and the agreed upon price is nine hundred forty three thousand nine hundred eighty four so it's less than either of the proposals although there is some  discrepancies between the different proposals for the different lots having to do with different assumptions that were made it's important note that these appraisals were done about a year and a half ago if you saw yesterday's mowing news yesterday you know news reported that in this past june twenty fifth teen was an eighteen month high of real estate values on maui so we feel that if we had done an appraisal anytime in the last six months it would have been even higher because that would have been the high point of real estate prices so based on all of these reasons to separate appraisals a price that's lower than either and the fact that prices have been going on up over the last eighteen months even though their paper reported that you know they've dropped fifteen percent the last three months we feel this is a very fair and reasonable other improvements that have to be done by kilani kilani is a project district that has all sorts of agreements with the department of water supply plus some other departments department water supply agreements have all sorts of improvements kalen he has to do to support their project what's in front of you today is land we need to support our c i p project so this land is not included in any of those agreements so they're not double dipping there are conditions have to do with things to support their project so the parcels we're talking about today for example don't include anything for the while loop to well to that they're dedicating to us that's all taken care of separately it has nothing to do with conditions they owe us this just happens to be that they're the land owners for the land we need for our c ip projects so it's completely separate from all of the conditions and requirements having to do with their project district in summary this is part of our regional plan that we've all been working on for years so this was a good chance to update where we are in that long term plan it shows that all those little pieces that the council has supported financially over the years are finally coming together we're very close to the end this is like i said probably the last council action i think we need in order to finish the treatment plant the design is near completion we passed the thirty day challenge period on the environmental assessment we plan on advertising that construction project for bid end of the year early next year everything else is either under construction or underway so we anticipate over the next couple years to wrap all of this up have the shaft abandoned and have the entire all the regional improvements  finished we went through the purchase and sale agreement again i think that the price is fair based on all of the research and detail we've done and the best option now is to move forward we feel before the money is at the end of the year otherwise we'll have to come back to the council and ask for a reproach appropriation of some funding for this so we feel we've dotted the i's and cross the t's this is something that has been supported all along and we're ready to take this final step so gone through all of that today and we certainly appreciate your support on moving forward with us thank you thank you very much mr taylor before we proceed the chair would like to note the presence of chair white their table to join us here members before we move on i'm just going to ask the budget director if you'd like to make any comments in regards to the financing just in case there is any concern there earlier this is the culmination of many years of work by the department by this council by the administration so thank you very very much once this is completed it would guarantee least in the central region as far as water is concerned doesn't mean there will never have a problem but it takes a big burden off of the challenge of shaft thirty three which when i first came on nine years ago was a challenge back then and so  speech not all from once but particular location will ensure that water in central ma we will continue to flow and not have a major interruption you have some you could have an interruption but you're not going to have a major interruption right mr taylor i mean as far as shaft thirty three and the capacity at that it was allocated to to give to the essential area right if that's correct it will spread it from what we call a single point of failure to buyer so that's really really heartwarming also to see that prices have gone up in a year and a half later we're at a lorry and it's also gratifying really what i like to say is i hope my colleagues can support this this is very good to water in all of my county does not central but all of my we county because this will be one of many steps we can take to ensure the clinic debility would upcountry that one day water will not be such a sore subject and that one day maybe in our lifetime madam chair maybe if not in the next lifetime of others that we will not have this challenge of droughts you know upcountry or any portion of now not to say we can't have a me disaster and i think mr taylor has covered that a number of times so i look forward to the passage of this purchased this property and to move on and get that treatment plant completed i drive by every day i never realized that little that little facility in that corner one point five million gallons i mean manager i don't know if you've passed that but it's a small little facility and then you have one contin down and that kind of takes all the area and i'm just amazed that one point five never realized that much all these years i've always thought i have a million comes out of that i didn't know was one point five still know that we could get even three plus million out of that whole for finding in making sure the money was there to get going and i'm sure thank you for bringing this forward so that we can get it completed hopefully today get in for a second reading and get the project started finally thank you thank you very much know it is after all these years and years because you know i've been around here listening to talk that i was in a responsible for making it happen and timing is everything i'm delighted that i have the opportunity three and i'm just wondering when we abandon it as it gets sealed or how do we how do we deal with it that's a great question mr taylor the chef thirty three is actually methodology that the state water commission will approve for the actual abandoning i'm not sure yet wells well for example has to be fully grouted means you'd fill it up whether or not a shaft which is really an access mine almost has to be fully filled up i have dealt that's going to be there their solution i mean usually when you close a mine you build some sort of wall fill it up to that point but you leave the you know the long haul open you know try to fill the whole thing up but that hasn't been completely worked out and again there's a there's an agreement between the the department and the owner about who's responsible for what so that will have to be done when with state water commission's approval when we get to that point and is there any benefit to keeping cheff thirty three as a backup to the new wells and we don't think so in fact it's hard to even keep shaft thirty three running it is it's basically a thirty degree incline that goes down to something like half a mile and i walk down there once it's sort of a dirt hole that's about eight feet in diameter and the pipes are just hanging on there you get down to the bottom and it's a large area that you don't really want to be in longer than you need to be if the equipment breaks even getting it out is it would be a real challenge there used to be three pumps and there is only one working and frankly if it broke today i don't know if we could fix it so trying to keep it as a backup doesn't really make a whole lot of sense the whole point of replacing that with four different wells any three of which have the same capacity that's our redundancy and those can be those can be fixed or replaced with normal means of you know pulling a submersible pump out replacing it without having people have to go you know half mile into the ground so i don't think there's really any valid reason to try to keep it as a backup because the wells themselves with the back of the chair thank you mr wade those are really good questions you know i always wanted to look like a little bit more now well you know there are things that were done many years ago that we probably couldn't even do today because of osha requirements so you know when we have a shaft into the ground that was dug by some wonderful hard for people it's hard to just simply give it up ok if i may madam chair is a visualization you may have seen on t v because this whole redhill fuel leak on who they show the whole lot of a shaft which is when you see that on on t v it's a concrete tube that goes down about a thirty degree angle there's an elevator that you sit in right down i've been down there and it's really clean and nice and ours is just a dirt hole that you literally put a climbing arness on and repel down holding on to a rope as you back down this dirt hole it's not really you paperwork before us this morning a members i'd like to request mr one of that one revision be made to the resolution and if you look at it in the second where as could you please in the words pending subdivision approval after three one one and it's just a little technical thing that we need to add in their members without objection we'd like to do that thank you very much  check make sure all the documents are correct make sure all the numbers are correct their references are correct prior to closing and these would be of course non substantive things that have to be done but i'd like to ask you one more time make sure we don't want anything to go right this is too important as you can tell you know are what are depends on this this is really a big deal today guys any further questions  to make my recommendation and when and if there is no further discussion my recommendation is that we approve the acquisition of approximately four point three one eight member carries members this was our big job for today i really really want to thank you very much for your support i want to thank again everyone who has worked so hard on this over the years want to thank the department and the administration for supporting me you know there's a lot of back goes on in this committee that you do not see and i really am feeling very very honored and happy to be working with such a great group of people and my committee which has just been so wonderfully supportive everybody thank you our job is done for the day and the meeting is a