chiropractor and he also specializes in animals as well and we're going to talk about some of the things that that you would bring your dogs cats as well yes cats dogs in horses and horses i don't think we can bring the horse into the op now and have to go out to see those but they're all it's they're all techniques that you can perform when an animal has an injury or yes any kind of lameness any kind of injury where your dog's not jumping up on the happen and it usually does happen at a very young age actually i know sometimes it's difficult for the dogs running up down steps and that probably has an effect as well from jumping up and up the couch i think that's my biggest problem from my experience and the heavier they get it seems the worse it becomes yes your pets overweight it puts an extreme amount of pressure on them so it's really unhealthy for your pet to be overweight so dr scott how long have you been in peter's township i've been in peters for about twelve years and i understand you're moving to a new location and peter's yes i am i'm moving right by the beta ska scene us restaurant right off of one thousand there so it's really only about one hundred yards away from where i am now and when w happen that i will be in that office officially is january one that's a that's exciting time to move the new office and getting things the way you want them and will this business with the animals is growing so i dedicated a room specifically for the your first floor office is absolutely well yeah so where did you go to school i went to live college in marietta georgia and been practicing for seventeen years as a human chiropractor  the schooling no no i meant that we're going to go there ok my question before we go there is what what was the transition and taking on animals in chiropractic care it was something i actually wanted to do pretty much adjusting i think it actually all started around in the mid eighty's but it didn't become so much mainstream i guess the last ten or fifteen years it has when i know you've always had animals you've always had dogs and you have a pomeranian out far too pomeranians so you obviously you know have compassion for and it was a part of your absolutely yeah i have a very strong passion for learning how to treat them and to helping them because i feel they deserve you know the treatment that we could do for their spine is amazing and the results are amazing well you know you've been and i'm sure the audience probably would cost too even treating tucker now  for half a year i would yeah and tell the audience what you've seen as a four as a proponent well tucker came in and he had been basically paralyzed for about three years i believe it's about  started trying to stand up on his legs and that's pretty amazing after three years of being paralyzed that usually it usually doesn't happen to be honest with you three years of being paralyzed with all the muscles atroph takes a long time to get that back well i did that in the excuse me i just i'm having a back problem myself so quick move kind of gives me a little bit of pain or i never stop from the day you w paralyzed i started you know exercising and we had everything from acupuncture to to a physical therapist that he visited three times a week so we never let him be pure you know he was always on hand that was key and i exercise and constantly but what i noticed since we've been coming to your office and having these these treatments every week and we generally come about three times a week with doctor his improvement is actually been amazing and i know part of that is muscular you know yesterday in your office he was kicking his legs like like crazy yeah he responded very well and it just goes to show you that you know the nerves that goes for those muscles can get pinched or stuck in the vertebrae can get stuck and when you relieve that bone from being stuck the nerves function again just just the back story we really don't know what happened to him he went into the into a breathing and the back story on that is this veterinarian evidently had some problems and was being arrested for medic medics self medicating somebody or something and that was the day it was all breaking i guess and so her mind wasn't on her work and tucker and i have suffered the effects of that once but second of bad treatment and her technique was was different than what you've been doing for crackers they've had my dogs have gone to her for adjustments in the past and she was always hands on therapy what's the medical term for that hands on is really the terminology that it's the original original car practice was designed to be hands on and the school that i'm going to now actually teaches hands on adjustment but it really just goes to show how powerful an adjustment  done when it's done incorrectly yeah well that's why there should there's the schooling is you know it's not just a weekend of school you know it actually takes years to learn how to manually adjust an animal so it it's very specific and if not used correctly it can be damaging as well we never knew what really happened a talker and of course she you know was quick not to admit anything i don't know she compressed that the disk or compressed and probably you can push a barbara out of place and you can push about a break in a place and if you use enough force on an animal small that i mean the force that we use to just a horse it's really i'm going to make the same adjustment that i do on your dog on a horse except it's how fast you are so your intention has to be obviously non malicious and unfortunately you know the person in their life may have been going through something that caused them to you know not pay attention to the force that was being used so it's very important and the instruments kind of take that variable out of it which is why you see instruments like getting that hands on can actually help me in diagnosing and treating and finding the word right because you're able to help tell page and feel something out of alignment yes that's exactly you know your population skills can be so refined that you know you can put the hand on the animal start to push on the bone and you can know original developers of car practic were d d palmer and b j palmer and because humans have a placebo effect and they were doing a lot of research they wanted some some source the didn't have a placebo effect and animals do not have a placebo effect both effect means that you know best best way to explain it is you can give a pill for pain that has an arcata get it and then give a control group just a sugar pill and just a mind kind of things they're getting something and it works and that's exactly what the best explanation yet is one so you know if you kind of fake adjustment on somebody but they really think they're getting a real justman they can actually have the same effect as a person getting the edge which says something about the power of the mind absolutely and animals did not have that and they want to do the research and show people that chiropractic works and it works on anybody whether you believe in it or not because it's not a religion so you know i've heard i don't believe in chiropractic well that's medicating them yeah it's funny one hundred years ago chiropractors always maintained the same philosophy but one hundred years ago medical doctors were draining blood and that's pretty much how they treated you so i would call that very scientific so you know we always had the same philosophy and we've never changed for over one hundred twenty years now so if i didn't know what i know about nutrition i'd go to chiropractors ask about nutrition before i actually go to a nutritionist or a physician for sure because you see carpark to care seems to focus on the whole body and that holistic approach and starts with nutrition yeah there is always three components there's an emotional there's a physiological and then there's usually some kind of  anatomical relationship with the spine so you know you're motions and you know some people will get into the spiritual aspect of it but you know if you're one hundred pounds overweight and you come in to get adjusted in you're not going to change your lifestyle o when you look at it you're nothing but but it too you know really we all start off from normal too and all the appendages and everything come out of it and you're nothing but electricity and fluid and if that takes then then the nerve i are moving the fluid in the nutrition isn't going in there the energy isn't there and everything's everything starts to fall apart after that and my right in that assessment you absolutely are once the if the body stops moving you're going to die i mean that's pretty much everything requires movement in a what if responded cord in your digestive system and your blood flow there has to be movement so if there's not movement in the spine it's going to fact it could affect your organs it could affect your heart the blood flow i mean everything is controlled by your spinal cord so pretty much that's how car practic works really i just allow your body to be able to heal itself by putting a spine back into alignment because that energy or that flow is coming down moving and all of a sudden   it's a bump and then it can do what it's supposed to do it can get the words where it's to go and from what i've learned over the years and and what you've explained to me certain areas affect certain organs as well yeah there's a whole chart actually that if you type that in you can see that the nervous from your atlas down to your sake or i'm actually go to every organ in your body so that nerves being pinched then there's not one hundred percent communication between your brain and say you know your stomach so you have your people to what does that mean if there's not a hundred percent communication between your nerve in your stomach basically if your body's working correctly if you're vertebrates out of place in your lumbar  affects your digestion that vertebrae could be blocked and that means that now the body cannot communicate so it could be blocked sixty percent fifty percent i mean it could be blocked all the way up to ninety percent and you would even know it was blocked that's the worst thing stuck in relationship to the bone below our bone above about bone below when the bone a stock it causes nerve interferes so really what we do is remove the nerve interference which allows the body in the brain to talk to each other and if that is working thought you were saying so if that there's an interruption nerve and it's going to the stomach does that mean you have digestive problems it could definitely mean that could be the source of your a low ball syndrome acid reflux you know people are surprised that you know they think our practice treat the back or the neck and truly i mean that's what we do specialize in but by getting your spine adjusted you could actually you know say get get irritable bowel syndrome and it will be all symptoms to heal up or you know a lot of people come in for headaches but they don't realize that the spine affects everything in your body so your immune system is affected by your nervous system and we fix a nervous system because we're all energy we're frequency and when all that's in iraq that we have we have problems so let's say that that you have a chronic kidney problem that medically that could be from injury that c from things you're consuming that you shouldn't be consuming i mean there's medication there's a lot of things you can cause chronic injury but if you had a chronic spinal problem and it was in the area that the nerves innervate the kidneys could that cause over a long period of time some form of kidney damage absolutely and the same for the animal and same for the animals well i know everybody has this concept that animals are different than us and they're really not there know the spine and actually the nerve that go out are very similar to ours if you know there are seven cervical and twelve rustic and five lumbar in the animal it's seven thirteen and six so they have a few more thrust six and we do but other than that it's exactly thinking you know i might experience with my doctors over the years now there was always a threat with their backs and so i was always real big in the animal carpark to care as i am with myself as you know and i see it all the time i had a issue you know a little bit ago i could turn my head to the left i get a headache and i never get headaches i turn to the right no headache and i was out of alignment yes that's exactly what you said there and you that that little nerve gets  gets pinched and all of a sudden your spirit is something that you haven't experienced and it's it's coming back in the form of pain yes and your body which pain is your body telling you hey something's afile something's wrong you know the signs and symptoms are actually the last to come so that means that bone could have been out of place for several years and your body tried to hide it as much as it can and it would you know compensate in another way like you know maybe not allowing you to turn your head all the as far as it could go because it doesn't want to be in pain so to stop you had a certain spot and i think it was one of those action meccan i think was one of the right to kennywood actually yeah i had a lot of people after writing a kennywood that ended up with  worth every second of it yes but you know i've experienced that right now from the things i've been doing abusing myself with box and carrying things that i shouldn't be caring i have an issue going on now and it's a dropper i'll tell you th that's what i try to attract a wellness patient a patient that's going to have chiropractic for that for the rest of their life the best analogy is to use that if you went to the dentist and the dentist told you to never come back again that doesn't happen he usually very little posed to go to the dentist twice a year and they just do a regular examine the doing a check up so i mean if you were to stop brushing your teeth we have this saying nor your teeth will go away and you know that very well that you know regular checkups they're checking to see if you have any cavities and into preventative well that's what a chiropractor care and dentistry know that facts are in to prevent of and we try not to make a crisis situation happen you know you tend to go to a physician when you're having a problem you know some people tend to go to the dentist when they're having a problem only and you don't want that you want we have the knowledge and ability to prevent it and i know you get a lot of cases after injury car accidents and you know people haven't been coming to enter and they're in trouble and they come in after that but ideally if you're if you're keeping you know your teeth clean and so forth and you're keeping your spine and in the form it should be and you're much better off healthwise absolutely and that's the kind of patient in the patients that are in my office that's a majority of my clients are wellness their lifetime patients and they realize the benefits of getting regular adjustments have you found the people that are doing that are also more conscious about what they consume and type of food they eat and absolutely your diet and your lifestyle is a huge factor in whether you're going to be healthy or unhealthy what are some of the injuries that you see with animals coming in you know the very common injury is usually in the lower made back area where an animal could have as i said before jumped or have been used to jumping when the animals get older the flexibility decreases so they may have been able to jump from the couch for the first five years but at some point after you know they get older their spine just doesn't move as well so they jump off the couch and then you see them maybe lamp or yelp and then you don't seem jumping off the couch anymore so that's usually an indication that we're what area with would be on average that would be right in this area right in here so this is the middle of their thrashing vertebrae and because her body is so long comparatively and she lands everything all the forces on those front two legs and then the spinal drop behind it so they're very easily they're very strong enough political animals unfortunately sometimes it can be to their demise because jumping up and jumping down off of things is probably the worst thing for you and this is you know you would think she's not powerful but she's a runner she can she can run like you wouldn't believe yeah these dogs are amazingly fast and strong and i used to take about it you know that would be a good thing to start doing if they if they if they listen to this training you can train them pretty much to do anything in me takes some bribery of some trees but it works it always works so that area of the back is a big problem what about the hips the hips are very very well they're very prone to injuries and and there are certain dogs more than others it's actually a  gene specific german shepards usually end up with hip dysplasia all right a larger dog got and you've got another we've got another big word on this displays a hip dysplasia is when the femoral head does not fit into the a a part of the bone more woodward so the bone actually should fit in here and there's a little ball and socket it should be about fifty percent of that ball and socket should be in there but what happens is they're born without the socket being deep enough and now animal from about three months on so puppies little dogs should be getting a regular just months and i know it's hard for people to believe that but that adjustment is the only one that will actually prevent your dog and they've actually done research on this where they took you know puppies that were young and they took three from the same litter and three and they did the research and the three that were adjusted regularly did not end up with hip dysplasia murtha's traumatic you know you're  squeezed out basically you're twisting and turning and and although you're very flexible when you're first born it's still a lot of trauma on friends it's probably the most traumatic experience you'll have specially i mean if you can imagine a horse coming out a little baby who are steps sometimes just dropped right out you know most horses are actually injured at early age they're bumped while they're in the stall with their mother and that bump usually controlled vertebrae out and if you don't see that and you if it starts off in the beginning not growing properly then that that weakness is going to be there forever yeah the body will compensate and it'll do what it needs to do so that they'll be able to function but there's an underlying problem that  vengefully manifest into a major problem maybe as they get into their five and six year old range so we've talked about the back and the specific area that's you see the most on the hips which i hear quite a lot about  other areas absolutely the vertebrae up in their necks to see one and see to is very important for the whole rest of the spine to function correctly because all the nerves a pass through that vertebrae go to the brain through what one small little haul even the blood supply to your head goes through that that's it there's always a nerve a blood and two blood vessels wherever there's a nerve there's two blood vessels where there's blood vessels there's a nerve cell all develops cohesively we're going to be going to a commercial break and please stay tuned with us and we're going to continue with dr scott anderson and talking about veterinary care for dogs cats and horses s mine i'm someone who cares about smile and i live and work in your community i'm the one who puts a smile on your child's face i'm an orthodontist a dental specialist a correct scr misaligned jaws and dental irregularities i received an additional two to three years of specialized education beyond high school who are my i'm the maker of healthy beautiful smile for more information visit braces dot org  welcome to let's talk healthy pets i'm your host dr insel koski and we've been talking with dr scott i understand a local chiropractor local human and animal chiropractor and we have abby here who's who volunteered and she didn't really have a whole lot to say about it to be our patients today before the break dr scott we were talking about different areas and you had mentioned the atlas or the  skull yes first bone and you were you were talking about communication and all that but what a lot of people don't realize is all the communication starts in the brain and heads down but it actually goes right back up again and if that is kink there that for a human you know block you're not getting full communication in either direction yeah there are some chiropractors it only will just a push over the larger brain because of the importance so you could go in there with a low back problem and they're going to just show up or cervical and it's hard for some people to grasp the concept that how could this vertebrae affect that vertebrae in there actually is a relationship and i won't get into the terminology occurring all therapies that what that's called that's a different when they're sick rock simple technique which is something i'm trained in as well but the fibers behind your neck actually can be palpated and it can tell where there's a misalignment or bone out of place in your body or where there's a bone stock when you have the it's coming in and you mentioned those several areas now and i've seen the most of my again that's the back and the hip site people talking all the time about dogs with hip problems you see a lot of leg injuries as well yeah actually there are quite a quite a lot of patients that come in that they're limping on the front leg or the back leg and that's usually an indication that i mean there actually could be something wrong with the joint in the elbow but it could be related to spinal so gently that taking their dogs as a veterinarian know i always recommend that they go get the x proper x rays to make sure there's not any bones broken and to rule out any underlying path ology so i always recommend that the patient goes to their vet first and then we get those ruled out because if there's a broken bone that needs to be fixed by the vet if there's an underlying path ology cancer tumors you know that that's does the kind of things that are more serious that need to be ruled out and treated by your vet but if their dog if your dog is limping because they have pair seizure there are numbness like when your leg falls asleep that's what it feels like to the animal so that bothers them so they want to chew on it because it actually feels like there's spiders or something touching their skin and che that so that actually can be a spinal problem meaning that their backs out of place and so they don't have to limp they don't have to yelp there could be issues in the spine if you ever if you dog ever jumped off something and you heard  than likely they have a bone that's out of place are bone they got stuck and it happens over and over again so if you're animals not jumping or not walking up the steps well or coming down though just stop doing whatever hurts them so just pay attention to  hands on technique i've seen use of the activator and then i experienced your devices that you have and that's the proper term for your instruments can you tell us a little bit about pros and cons briefly on those different techniques well you know hands on is what original chiropractor gives so you know there's are some schools that you can go to like i'm going to now which is called options for animals it teaches you hands on technique your hands obviously it's all about how fast you are in and your your technique and how many years of experience you have adjusting to that can hurt the animal so the instrument kind of rules out a lot of the misjudgement with how fast you are and how strong you are so the instrument is always going to be faster than my hands so hands on is like the old cracking back technique that people talk about as a kind of the same thing i know that's not that works a little differently than a light force instrument but it's a very accurate and very precise so your hands can never be that accurate and that precise i don't care how many years you've been practicing you know it takes a lot of skill to be able to palpated vertebrae and know that the bar to brace stock and then to put it back in place so it all depends on how fast you are and how good you are at your population actually with that activator you know i had my intestinal problems from all my surgeries and i had a blockage that i thought was going to require me to go to surgery which was panicking and i was actually on block by that activator it was absolutely amazing yeah it works and that's the amazing thing there's so many tools to do work so my spine must have been out of three treatments in the same day with that activator i was cleaned out so you know i see this and i experience it and i know that it works when we're talking about tucker and i was saying i bring tucker in three days a week tucker is a special case because we have a paralyzed dog that i'm trying to get back to walk and i bring him three times a week but that's not really the usual no the usual for a cat it could only be two or three adjustments and then you just bring them in for a maintenance adjustment maybe you know every couple months or so a dog is usually a right around four to five adjustments and that problem can be fixed and these are dogs are coming in with a specific problem yes yes your dog because of the spine being paralyzed for long as it has been you know we're using a cold laser word on all and we're going to talk about it we're doing a whole series of things to try to get hand yeah he's not all skin adjustment here and the cold laser is getting my fashion release so agility dogs dogs are out there performing and exercising it's important to get them have chiropractor care yeah almost all those owners get their animals adjusted quite regularly and that's something i'll probably be doing at the dog dog and helping them out because you know they are really putting a lot of abuse on sure they are it's amazing so they need adjusted just like a professional athlete gets adjusted and i would even think a show dog would would benefit from it because the absolutely those are all factors that you have to take into play so i mean in all honesty there's not a my mind any thing or anybody out there that doesn't need an adjustment when we do everything on a daily basis to  ourselves you know i can attest to that supplements and a proponent of supplements yeah i have a degree in nutrition and i am very very big into promoting healthy diet proper nutrition and proper exercise and everybody knows that that's my belief as well and my practice what do you recommend for for joints and so forth for the animals who pretty much anything that you and i could take your animal can take and hold its weight for much and you really have to investigate that and really make some decisive decisions on there because usually that stuff is very unfortunate lee it's the same with the dog food well you know we did our last show  so it's exactly exactly the gaze so what i always recommend is getting a human supplement and then you know investigating that because they're not all the same either and you know the source from different places and  can give more than you think you can give but you can as an average you know most of the stuff from castles or powders and you just whatever they say to get for those leaves just cut it down right there's like three pillars of vitamins that i recommend and i'm a good vitamin or fish oil is one of the ones a probiotic absolutely is very important and then you can adjust to according to the animal you know a multi vitamin is good but a lot of people get confused of what a know the one that you introduced me to which i've got an actual results with is the oregano p seventy already which is a phenomenally the item gold standard yeah so that's if you really want to go up in the standard that  very good one if you could take everything else away and only say you can have one thing it would be that's right no oil from a very well duck with let's talk about what you brought here today and these are menacing looking instruments i mean it looks like i can i can you know change my tire with this go down the spine and the spine in animals has a reflex that is set up and it will cause their body to respond to that so they have an actual reflex so what i'm trained in doing is to see where know i usually try to stay behind them and i'll have somebody holding them in the front if i'm worried about getting bitten but what you do is we come in here and we motion the joint so we're actually feeling if the spine is moving correctly and as i said before i'm checking for normal range of motion so there's a range of motion that is going to be set up in their spine and i'll go along and i'll palpated if i find any gross abnormalities i'll note that and then i'll start going down the spine and i'll just go right down the spot right in there i can see where there's a problem our bodies kind of that you felt were right here if you saw this and what's when we get right here her whole body actually moved talked we talked about before and he's already trying to get away from me  he was adjusted and that really is the adjustment that i'm going to use without instrument i could quit right there now i do a little extra technique where i'll come in and i'll work the muscles along the vertebrae so this will actually vibrate on her spine and this is actually still very good to me and i usually don't get any complaints about using this instrument and you can see right there you can see their whole body starts to move and that's a reflex and there's a problem in that area this will release any muscle spasms and i feel that on my hand yeah so it looks like there may be a lot of force coming through this and there isn't it's very light and very it depends on how hard i press on where you think so really it takes about ten or fifteen minutes to do the total adjustment and then i would treat them with a cold laser all right now we need to talk about what a cold laser is it's a lot of people which as you say the word laser they think is something that can cut or desiring you and a cold laser is actually ultraviolet light that just is going to actually what it does is it works on a cellular level and it actually removes pain damaged cell and it goes to like a minus fifty or even greater and the purpose of that is that really send all the nutrients and the option in there to rejuvenate that cell and my understanding is that basically that's what the cold laser doing is doing is sending that voltage in there that's exactly what it does that i've worked on so you're a level it will help with the synthesis of the cell and it basically is just going to help your body heal faster it's set up to remove pain and inflammation but it actually does a lot more that by putting the show and showing this on certain points on the spine it's actually affecting the meridians and the meridians are what are use when you get acupuncture exactly the same thing so you're you're hitting those parts without having to stick needles und absolutely and they they don't even feel anything i mean this is really the effect of it so a lot of people are like is that doing anything well this is actually passing right through her body so this is really affecting her entire nervous system right now i have a lot of people that just come in and want to use a laser the laser can get rid of your pain within a matter of three minutes they can actually work that fast but multiple this requires multiple sessions at the injuries been there for a year or two years it's not going to go away with one treatment it you know the longer the problem's been there the longer taste to get rid of it so huffed and how long would you do this i would usually do this three minutes i'll do twelve different codes each code representing a different area and a different so civic sending out a specific frequency of light absolutely that's how it works by the frequency of the light and so you're targeting different areas with these different different frequencies yeah i can affect the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous system which for people you're sympathetic and parasympathetic is set up a lot of that is set up for your flight or fight some response if something happened and you needed to run really fast all the blood is going to go into the muscles in your legs as opposed to the muscles and blood in your stomach good a sympathetic ear referring to movement from conscious thought and not conscious thought that it's simple yeah that's pretty much it lance armstrong his his chiropractor uses this instrument the entire time he was training and won his  seven events so how often would you recommend using an instrument like you know using this person's technique and use that as often as you want the closure the visits together the faster the response and your using that on talk or just just curiosity sake what does a device like that cost you that cost fifteen thousand oh boy you can't even drive it exactly but it's research has has demonstrated that it's beneficial they originally it was actually developed by nasa and it was used on the space shuttle because it works so fast but the f d a has approved this to remove scar tissue so i mean that's its claim to fame that if you came in and you had a surgery where you had a large scar this laser will break up those  allow it to heal ten times faster now that was nice of the f d a and now you have another laser the use yeah i have another laser that is hands on laser actually put right on the skin it has the same effect except that you have to hold it right over the area being affected so it's very effective but obviously if i'm treating a horse or a dog that's trying to run around the room or trying to get away from me it's much easier to not have to go directly on to the spine and and that's far less expensive  yeah you know it's a two thousand dollar unit but the benefits are the same the benefits are the same because it depends on how far the penetration of the laser goes that's really where you get the most effect so the further the penetration the more effect you're going to get spine and they yelp there's an area there's a problem there but it can be used for tonight is a ringing of the ears i mean it could be used for depression because it affects the cerebellum and the different areas in your brain so there there's there's over a thousand different codes in all honesty and if there's a problem i have a code for getting that code is just adjusting the light frequency right there's a frequency that can be set so there's a different frequency for a headache as opposed for a frequency for side of what's amazing the studies of all shown that when there's an injury the frequency level falls as does the vibration or those go up so you get you go from i like say a minus twenty to a plus twenty five or thirty interesting enough cancer doesn't develop until you hit a plus thirty  oxygen level very high when there's a negative and very low when there's a positive so all this all this comes into play into developing a healthy cell absolutely and it works so fast which is why you know someone like nasa would want to have something like that because you know when something's going to work quick and something is going to work fast and that's the that's the claim to fame with that instrument it works fast and i have and i think since tucker's been coming to you and you've been using that that's been one of the things that has brought him propelled him to where he is today yet the latest research shows that it's hard they used to believe that nerve like a spinal injury like the pairs these are like superman i forget what is nameless they they actually know that this can actually regenerate spinal nerves they will regenerate basically a millimeter a month kind of like even on their own they may not generate in the right path but eventually they'll come back to your body like you always talk about will compensate you know even with nerve development but it was amazing when you started to use this on tucker the advancement that he that i saw on him and i actually bought the less expensive laser and you know my try my best there are so many that is for it i have patients that just call me and come in only for the treatment of the laser so it's that's it's the people that are educated in understanding go out there and do the research we're going to see that pretty much all the veterinarian office around here now are now using cold laziness actually they can use a class for laser which is requires goggles to be worn for the protection of the eyes because it's a little more which is stronger but more dangerous at the same time so you have to be careful how you use it where this laser is not it's not considered class for laser so if this were to shine through your eyes it's not going to hurt you so you know it's a safer laser but effective the same  yeah and it's basically just just what that's what this yeah that's what it's actually could be called a cold light laser or cold like therapy the real technical term is light therapy but you know when you say laser people get a little afraid yeah there's a little sound a little medicine you know there's what we think a laser like you know star wars like this very safe and they're effective so we've kind of established as probably best to be do a preemptive strike and come in and and bring your bring your animal in for just the initial adjustment checkup and get on line and then maybe every two to three months to keep them in check now it's probably been about does and i was up and out some steps and run and so forth so you know finding that i have a good relationship with the vets in this area to be open to allowing me to use those questions just the way i think a clearance from my vet before i i always ask for permission from the that and i x that you go and get checked out and get an ok from your vet before you come to me that is always the safest route and you know you want to know if there's a broken bone or any tumors underlying which is something i'm not going to be able to do like they could so yeah i always require that you get their permission and i've not had anyone ever tell me that their bed didn't want them to be adjusted so i would say that if i had a vet that said no you know just what i get myself another vet that it would probably be a good idea what i would do but not tell you to do that that's exactly what i would do though so so that on that three you know what you want you had your you know sean just months if let's say i had an injury i should i should get a hold of you  bring my own want to need it like the sooner you address the injury the better off we are i would not wait just sooner you get in the quicker and easier it will be to fix wonderful question that gets asked all the time because it's very confusing on  immediate injury i put ice or heat immediate injuries all it's going to be ice the first forty eight hours should be ice and that is a roll from that's what the professional athletes use and that's pretty much what any any injury will require ice first to reduce the swelling the ice will reduce the inflammation and swelling and then heat afterwards he would be for a long term injury or long term arthritis those types of injuries that you can do he always ice first and then you can he later right so what i saw to be we get in the see the chiropractor that would be what i recommend i mean from what you suspect is an injury from jumping off a couch or doing something like that yes if you see area normals in any kind of pain that's  sign that there's something wrong ok and you were mentioning two to three or four treatments initially usually gets them back and every animal is going to be different but the longer the problem is there the longer going to take to get well well i've seen some amazing results you know with myself and and my animals and you know i'm thankful that we have you in the area and i know tucker's one day going to get up and walk you know i see i see it happening you know he's doing things now they couldn't do before well i'd like to thank you dr scott anderson for demonstrating all your equipment talking to us about chiropractic care i know that you have a big move ahead of you so that's going to be exciting time for you and i preach hate everything you've been doing for my animals in fact thank you for i mean you know your knowledge is amazing and the one thing i know about you is if you don't know the answer you search until you find the  answer and that's critical that's what that's what doctors are supposed to do that's what they're supposed to do this is going to do that but that's that's exactly that's what we're supposed to do well i'd like to thank everybody for watching let's talk healthy pets and i thank abby for coming