project westbury computers township come to reason that the rain came to us to look at doing this project is because it's a mind property and that's our special  working on these distressed properties and we feel that we've got something very nice here to bring to the township to them to prove that area and bring the family to the area and with me tonight  any of those particular subject matters and for the homeowners that have any concerns from the those so what we have is with this village residential  there was a household that the people that lived in that house oh i don't know who's in the house now but they have a house home in their basements so they were actually mining coal  do any remediation work for the roadways where the public utilities typically is but when jack was pointing out the the roof the heart stand that makes up the roof of this mine and in  for because they're not they're old but when she started drilling and you see what's physically down there there was an awful lot of home place so we really didn't have to grab as many home foundations as we had land saying that they wanted to potentially sell that property and they want to see it developed into into residential land so we sir take a look at it and we thought it had a lot of potential especially that market of move up buyers from their first time home buyer whether it be a townhouse for a ranch somewhere that that first time buyer that can be in that three hundred forty to four hundred thousand no arrange nobody's hitting that with a single family i'm peter township and we feel that that market is totally missed and we want to capitalize on especially with the new schools coming in here and how good the school district is so we really took a hard look at it and that's when we brought tim because their of their experience with mining and that's how we ended up where we are today so what we're seeing is what we're proposing it's it's our ryan home renaissance plan of homes they would be all to three seventy five three eighty range is where we see house coming in as a invention she'll get into details but what we propose this is a new line of ryan just came out with we are traditional renaissance plans before and they always had a morning room option on the back and everybody always opted for that so this year they came out with a whole new lineup of homes that's what we're going to propose here and it's columbia the hots and  homes where the morning room is actually incorporated into the fair plans and we call it the lifestyle cycle so the kitchen the family room the dining room it's all nice be open open space so we've started building these down in the region you market where and and they've just been really well received and i've personally toured all of the models craftsman stuff out of the sea you know you see that the and the variations of the the sidings that go vertical in this the shake sidings and trim similar if you you all live in this area obviously you drive down west macquarie road we just did the on clave and it's right across from the old mary onto a market where seventy nine m organza those are townhouses but they have that craftsman stout to them so if you see the color schemes in there these houses would offer four different house types and then obviously a multitude of colors said that happen that have that in these open grass open spaces with just flat space with grass where people can go kick a ball gather it i mean you see the developments around here most of the people most of the people that live in these developments end up in somebody's driveway and evening riding bikes workers to have these open flat spaces with benches where they can all go and sit and play in the grass and stuff we're pretty excited about he said he said i be buried foundations before foundations with the well in the window inside in most it's a pretty good take or your folks actually finished the base here and we've submitted the design plans as well as the storm water plans and reports for his application just to talk to him few of the items and carry on with what ryan was talking about he's corrected the sidewalk supposed to create a little more intended really to create that central area for congregation in the community who also had some extensive conversation and so earlier planning meetings talking about making sure that we have good access for children in the area to the boss for pick up in the morning or drop off in the afternoons as well as pestering pathway to that from where many of the house but for much of the housing is going to be located in terms of storm water management there's two storm water parcels and plans that are proposed for this project is first base is going to be located down your churchill road on the on the low side of the property the second base and adjacent to tell being away both of these ponds are designed to control over the hundred year storm and then have emergency structures as well in the event there is any sort of blockages the pond by churchill road is going to allow that to the existing stream channel the point to tell when way it's going to al that infrastructure that's already located in that area similarly the existing sewers in the area are going to be tied those grades are going to be utilised to actually buffer the the existing residential area as well and the same thing i've been in this area to this is a fairly steep area and what that will  activity of movement of socialization and so forth in this plan is somewhat similar to some of the others that they've done the wide sidewalks and so forth and really changed a lot of the and persist from heading to the park to actually socializing going up and down the street which most people do and i'm sure you've seen some of the new developments that's exactly what happens on the sidewalks are great there's a lot of activity going up and down no listen at this point but the advantages to the open space in the ponds will be using those with appropriate plant material what lands material that type of thing  wild flower mixes and so forth this is not going to be by one plant put it in these will be various plant list evergreen mixes deciduous mixes and i don't know do you have a list same space it's going to also going to help with backyard views right your views and so forth are a lot of people you're probably going to be putting tacks on and utilizing those spaces especially where on the back side where my concern is the growing when i grow up the voids were just water going to go the trainer it's going to cut it's going to go to the lowest point i know that but years ago when ed that's why the whole russia water washed o get all the way to eighty four that's the low point one where together that's the low point that water has to go somewhere when you start growing you're going to sure of around our homes there was so bad you could take a day and just push it straight down into the ground they they opened it up they were relieved that we haven't had any water since it was also my understanding that you know familiar with a lot of this stuff so it's i've been in public works for the last thirty years in my life with all this mine you know the shallow bonds going on back there they dug right behind my house the margins were very shallow a lot of them they when they were doing the work on this piping up here the people from the mining company told us that they didn't even know where the mines were because of the the fall they were in the lacking of mapping back then and it's my understanding now that the d p recommends that you grow out those mines one hundred percent so if you're in the development like this with ninety one houses how are you going to spot here and there you know like it said are you going to say there were hundreds think about this ninety one houses on twenty six acres do the math on how big a loss or about as big as this table playgrounds that they show you and the idea that they're you're thinking that this is going to be a park setting it's going to be more like a city setting in my opinion because these houses are going to be you know almost touchable with a lot size i mean i kind that's if you just squared the lots up on the twenty six acres and started putting houses and you know that whole area down there is just terrible in undermining i mean if the d p remember recommends to the township that that property is grouted from one end to the other ok and it doesn't get that way then the township is laudable for it because they know that the problem what the problem was and they know what the d and we're even issues with it now because that water leaches down through the ground anybody below that especially with the close proximity of those houses that water leaches to the ground goes right underneath the ground  goes into their homes and their own with it as we speak those those infiltration pollens or what they're cut out to be in our terrain or in the pittsburgh area because think about it is like it said earlier where is this modern water going to go it has been relieved it's run enough to only four inch pipe almost half pipe steady he started blocking this thing up it in my homes and it got a big window my house the bad when there's a mosque you know i mean i understand development i mean i deal with it on a daily basis and i get it but you know with all these issues and then thrown those ninety one house was on a postage stamp o property you know where or where i mean is that in conjunction with the rest of the stuff and i know we got thrown into this village zoning stuff that you know it was por asa different thing back then other than you can put a hundred thousands on a small piece of property but you know it's i just don't think that many houses in that little piece of property is is good get the idea oh we're going to put a retention pond and it's going to help that well it's not going to help but with ninety one houses and twenty six acres because our water goes into that on it got to go out so it's going to hit them streams down there even quicker and harder than what it is i think with the mining the bond issues the drainage from them are new issues the amount of the flooding issues that we have done or it's just not good for us down here you know i mean elitist at least make know i i disagree with the least on my street that if that is not the case the way that the laws were laid out of originally they were small locksmith they were not sold off a small lots they were like everybody down or property is sold like four lot encroachments it's not you know it's not one per lot but you know this this village zoning was given to us is old you know we're going to try to  my neighbor my own neighbor charlie mazur he passed we years ago but he's still my for you know the words back there which mean a lot to me so seeing this really really upsets me that understand change but yet understand we are all lifetime residents there or not you know who i mean i just it just seems like  over on west mcmurry road behind the new peter's township senator authority over there behind the townhouses you drive up on there's a treatment facility there and it runs twenty four hours a day three hundred sixty five days a year it has a lime silo and it has discharges and you can see what clean water you can see the am the water coming into the pond it goes through a bunch of and it goes right into the creek there is clean water that treats the mine water in montoro for that's monitored twenty four hours a day three sixty five if that facility went down the low point of that mine because i was in the mining industry for a while the low point in that mine is actually in library right where the t v station is and library all facility was it would flood out library so i understand their concerns about the mine water issue but the mine walk pool is monitored all the time so we're talking about an isolated area i just want to make