and the reason is because of the all the state of pennsylvania as well as the state of the local area and the state of our country which you are uniquely positioned to discuss and that's one of the things that i  love having you come on the program let's talk a little bit about your background do a short bio for you for the people who may be just getting to know you on the first day all right so that's where you're from where you went to school where you met your lovely wife you know both on the aircraft maintenance side then as an officer on the intelligence side spent most of my career overseas actually retired from there stayed on worked in international business and worked on a local television station there as a as a civilian interrogators and counter intelligence agent interrogating terrorists and insurgents came back from that went back to st vincent's and decided our state was going in the wrong direction and somebody had to do something about it since i teach political science i thought  should be me so i ran for public office and i've been a state representative is two thousand and ten and you're married married to my wife young for thirty six years and we have two sons nick and matt we just had our first granddaughter in gra the biggest elephant in the room the budget all right that's that seems to be at an impasse but it's an impasse with the entire state legislator against the governor and the people of pennsylvania against the governor and you know this is a totally unnecessary impasse we passed a very good budget with a three percent spending increase no tax increase for the tax payers it was very difficult to pull it off but we did it it's i'm really proud of that budget i didn't think we could do it we sent it over to the governor actually of the four hundred line items a little bit over four hundred line items in that budget we agreed on two hundred seventy four of those line items so we either decided that what the governor asked for we agreed to that amount or more in two hundred seventy four of those line items and yet this governor vetoed the entire bill he didn't he didn't exercise his line item veto he did the entire bill that puts a lot of important service agencies at risk right now and they're streaming into my office every day saying look we're running out of money if we don't get this budget through you know we're going to where they're taking out loans not to try to carry on business as usual and suddenly unnecessary and and i tell them look it's given him a great budget go call the governor's office and tell him that that you want him to sign that budget and you know i feel like our governor's new motto is you know why be part of the problem when when you could be all of the problem you know it's just go we've we've given him all the tools necessary and nobody wants a tax increase in this area i can tell you right now a five billion dollars tax increase which he's proposed and in fact nobody from his own party voted for it we put that that tax increase up to pay for his programs that he wants to spend on we put that up for a vote and for the first time i think in history it got zero votes and we've never seen a governor's budget get zero votes well that's i think that's something the public really has to understand that no one from his own party supported his view of what the budget should be and so long or in this impasse like he said it's the state legislature versus that one man all of our voted for elected people against one person who fifty two or something percent of all the population voted for and that's the very frustrating whenever you're sitting and the school board we just talked last night township is probably one of the best financially positioned school districts in the state but we only get like twelve percent of our budget from the state everything else is thrown on to the publics back here but we can only go until december but there's other districts in the eastern side of the state and locally that can even borrow money because of the fact that their bond rating now considered junk so no one wants to lend the money to in fact continue if that happens this this governor has the opportunity to destroy adjudication in this state the thing that he's saying that he wants to help and i said that to me is totally irresponsible i think i can't comprehend that on any level yet as i said it's totally unnecessary i mean we you know if i i know i'm not the governor but if i was a new governor and this is my first year and i put forth a budget and i got two hundred seventy four line items out of four hundred i would have said success ok let's move on and next year i'll try to get three hundred three hundred fifty line items you know this is my rookie budget and i'm going to and i've got this much agreement i think i'll just move on and you know we'll start working on next year's get our pension system back in order here and shit and it's just a start a fifty billion dollar underfunded pension system which is i don't want to turn into a detroit style system where it collapses on us but if we don't start making reforms to it  i'm really concerned that it's teetering on collapse and i don't want anybody that has a pension or is coming up on getting a pension three to be concerned that they're going to lose that pension but we need to make reforms too and he also vetoed the vetoed the privatization of the liquor stores which again we first time in forty years we got both the house and senate two to agree on this the people were behind it over eighty percent and again the unions said no so the governor says no so he basically is at the beck and call of the of the unions and that's the dilemma w prod talk about a privatization now my figures may be a little bit off but we lose millions of dollars a year because one of the taxes i mean just the thought for a second to the johnson town flood tax that was temporarily put on eight hundred years ago is still there ok we have so we have a tax system that's gone crazy we have the cost of running those locations and the people and everything else even though pennsylvania i understand is the largest liquor buyer in the world could be in the world certainly is in the country i know for sure for a state to be supporting that this like an allowance just wanna sell cigarettes  that's just that to me i just i have a hard time there was a time in place for i understand the legalities and things of the past but the bottom line is now is not the time a place whenever every other state sells liquor in sam's club costco the food stores and things like this it's time maybe that we get out and just enjoy them paying their employees to give us our tax and the very least it's a conflict of interest the state is is conflicted between trying to sell liquor and promote the sale of liquor and at the same time the whole purpose we're in the business was to was to try to reduce the amount of liquor and drinking and so forth and enforce the rules against the abuse of liquor so the state is trying to do wear two hats and should never do that and should they shouldn't be in business anyway so the private sector can run this much better we feel like well we're actually gain money will actually gain additional tax revenues because right now in pennsylvania we're losing a lot of money to what we call bleed off so all the border states around us which sell liquor better quantities better selection and lower prices we have many pennsylvania license plates there and their parking lots if you go over go over to the west virginia's new hires and you know the maryland and so forth you'll see all the down the where you see all the pennsylvania is that go over across the border the by their liquor well hopefully when we privatized that will bring those people back home here and not just like we did with casinos people used to fly to flock to lenox city now we keep those people in pennsylvania they spend their money here so we feel like we're going to gain some several hundred million dollars a year are the estimates by by keeping the sales private and out of the state hands well you bring up a good point the casinos are an excellent example i mean casinos lennox city are shutting down i mean they just built billion dollar casinos which are shutting down right now i think trump one of them that is just shut the casino down after only opening at twelve or eighteen months ago i mean so there's thousands of jobs that are being lost because they were betting on that other states not having the opportunity to have those revenues pennsylvania we got start doing that then all of the sudden you know they even done in west why can't this governor see that i really believe it's my theory that the unions are behind that they they they boast about how that they they control this governor and they'll tell him what to do and then i remember some of the lobbyist from the unions boasting to me that didn't matter that we would pass it they would tell the governor not to sign it he won't sign it so and they were right so you know actually i watched the launch to one to one lobbyist for one of these who bet me that you know this this would all happen and i just can't believe that it's happening but it is it is happening one wonder we bring common sense back and government when we started electing people that represent us and not the special interests we've got to get people that represent the people back home and they're in touch with the people back home i see so many we have what we have a good number that are now we're gaining ground but we're not quite there yet as you saw we didn't have enough votes to override the governor's veto and in that  vote all of the democrats voted with the governor so we needed fourteen we needed all of the republicans to vote and we needed fourteen democrats to vote with us to override the governor's veto on this budget and none of the democrats would vote with us for the people of pennsylvania they all voted with the governor to keep this this impasse going so i just hope he will take notice of that so they voted again logical his budget but they voted with him to stop the oh commonsense budget th we both agree that should be funded and to say i'll just pick out a number two million dollars a year you said you wanted that governor we said we want that we may even put more in there we may have said to two point five million so let's vote on that let's override a veto just on that line item so that these rape crisis  get money instead keep functioning the democrats voted no they voted with the governor not to override them went down the list of all these services vital services and they voted no not to override that veto not to fund the services so they couldn't including our schools i mean we got to get the money onto our schools the money is there it's coming in the tax dollars are coming in got to get it on to our schools they all voted unanimously to override this because i think it's unconscionable and i hope the people back home are paying attention and that is said to realize that not only as a state but as a as a country we've lost our moral compass and not to not just do politically what's what's expedient but to morally what's right and that's i said as you said when you see these smaller organizations run out of funding so they're not able to provide and what really irritates me most is the fact that this is the group that this governor ran  say that he wants support these people he wants to help the people who can't help themselves he wants to help education you know helping education throwing that out in his budget if i if i'm not correct most of the money went to welfare programs it didn't go to education as he promised but you know like you said it's always easy for everybody to get on board one better education peters has an education program which according to newsweek magazine is in the top one tenth of one percent of high schools throughout the country and we do it on a budget of just about twelve million or twelve thousand dollars per student yep twelve thousand per student were other school districts over in east twenty five thousand and they're like four hundred seventy thousand in the state i can see where some districts have fast to cut you know we don't and i said that's one of the things that have kept us financially sound but you know whenever i read about some of the five recently five of our local school districts may be having to be taken over by the state because of the fact that they can't afford they can't get their bonds process but they can't afford in the near future of this budget doesn't go through what the they are just closer doors you know there's some of some berries in the state teachers aren't getting paid you know what is wrong with this governor why can't it is the stopgap budget that we're hearing about isn't getting any traction with him we don't know he's he's he's mum on that he hasn't  commenting on whether he'll veto that or not but we're going to we're going to try to push that through when we go back into session next not not this coming monday but next monday and hopefully he'll see the light by then or enough people have called his office to say you know stop this you know most of the elected officials in my district are democrat also i mean a democrat to sure and they've even come to me they said look we're with you on this in fact we've called the governor's office and told them as as democrats in your party who are elected officials we want you to stop this we want you to sign the budget and he said we're not going through them so i just it's hard for me to understand i said if i i know i'm not the governor but if i were i think i would have just claim success on this and move forward in the next year try to get some more of what you want you know nobody in harrisburg gets everything they want that's one of the lessons you have to learn no one in politics and you know what is all that's right we all have to come to two hundred three of us in the house and you know fifty senators and they all got an opinion and they're all going to vote and we're we're going to have to compromise to get things done that's our system but he doesn't seem to want to follow that what let's talk about some local issues ok we and peter sonship are going to be faced with trying to get through the and we have a one lane bridge that has been an obstruction for years what's going on with that so i you know i've been working and it's a shame to say but i have been working hard on that since i was elected so for five years i've been working to get that f to get moving on this but lo and behold we are it is scheduled to start july seventh of next year two thousand and sixteen the construction luckily even after five years of waiting the construction is only supposed to take a month but it's only going to take a month to fix the bridge it's taken us five years to get it into the cycle so that it could be fixed this is why the bureaucracy drives me crazy in government so for weeks the construction it'll be done and part of that is due it depends on its credit that you had this bridge bundling techniques where the bridges can actually be built offsite and then trucked in and just laid in place basically a little more complicated than that but it saves a lot of time and effort on site construction so this is this bridge will be one of those bundled bridges that will be built in another location ahead of time brought in and when all the groundwork is laid it'll be laid into place and it's done in four weeks that's what they've promised one i'm sure you know all lucy though here and peter sagal he owned the company and al construction i was his director of safety in chicago we had to build replace remove build or replace and build a bascule bridge and we had forty eight hours to do it so trains could run over it because it was the main link between the east and west coast and we did it in forty six hours and that's why like you said and this is a bascule bridge it actually has a movement to go up and down so boats can go underneath it with trains on top of it dried and raised sake transportation of trains in forty eight hours and whenever you talk about a month going on this bridge drives me nuts about five years of engineering and studying i was only half jokingly say both my sons drives me crazy and i said sometimes you think the simplest things have to be it's like it's like the old idea that a camel is a horse drawn together by a committee and you know it just doesn't look like it's supposed to well let's talk about well let's talk about another issue and i didn't give you any heads up on this the sewer authority down in clinton ok that's a beast that that hinders everybody upstream ok clued in peter sides because we're part of the peter's times of sanitary authority that goes into that and the idea when that's going to become feasible i mean they've been working for years but the bottom line is you know the the organizations upstream aren't voters they can't do anything about it they are at the beck and call the money raise you know that there seems to be a disjoint sure there that in fact no one seems to be able to do anything about yeah and you know and i are and i wish they these sort of sorties or elected or appointed officials their own government i don't really have much say over them so i get a lot of calls complaining about it but i they're their own level of government and they're either elected or they're appointed by the municipality to run the authorities and we have a lot of authorities across the state like that so i don't i tell people i'm fortunately people give me a lot more credit for power that i don't have  you know i wish i had some say in it or i could do something about it but i really don't have much to say or do about that i empathize with them i know that the struggle is but they're going to have to they're going to have to go and they are going they're going down to the meetings and they're complaining and they're talking to the the authority the officials and so forth i i hope that they're making progress but i don't really have much of an update for you on that well the p a i was on council at the time whenever the e p a stopped peters times of putting in their own system than that the lap of david thing that they've been trying to piecemeal band aid together i just lay is that i'm i'm losing sight here of what's important for the people whenever the people have no say in the direction that it goes in a couple of people who are as you say elected or appointed seem to be the masters of the ship and the ship's going down and that's sad yeah unfortunately it requires people to be involved in active citizens they have to engage their government in all levels and i know people don't have a lot of time for that and they wonder why are governments gone astray they wonder why governments failed them and that is because they they all act people and they hope that they're going to do the things they say and they send them off to whatever level of government that they were elected to and many times they don't do what they say and if people aren't paying attention they're trusting that the people they elected are doing what they said they would do but they're not so it takes the people to get involved again and hold those elected officials accountable to get government back on track so i tell people at every town hall meeting engage your government talk to your elected officials tell them what's on your mind hold them accountable it's the only way we're going to get hold of our government again to get it back on track it's a sad and sorry statement that our government has gone so far astray and i'm talking really almost all levels you know they don't do what's good for the people it seems to be that as long as they look for their own retirement and benefits and everything else i was reading an article here the other day of this trade bill with china on a national level that some of the the people who voted for that received over a million dollars you know when you realize that they have five and six votes a day for that one vote they received a million dollars you know people go into the u senate many times don't go in as millionaires but they certainly come out as millionaires and people wonder how that happened whenever they're screaming that they're not getting paid enough you know it just doesn't make sense to me and we have conflict of interest laws i don't think they're strong enough i have several bills out there now to try to strengthen the conflicts of interest that i see in various levels of our government and you know what they don't get a lot of support by my fellow legislators we have some poor support but you know i think that they would all be on board for these type of changes but but they're not and so that's what i mean by we have a lot of work to do we have to persuade our public officials that we want them to be accountable we want them to be transparent want them to be telling us what they're doing at every level at every movement so that we can that we can weigh in on it as citizens and inform our public officials what we want them to do what we spent the first part of this time talking about the negatives let's talk about some positives that are actually taking place throughout the legislature good well you know as i say we passed our fifth on time budget i'm proud of that and i say even though the governor vetoed it that's that's that's a big step i ran on the fact that just before i came into office we went through this thing before the rendell budget was going on and on and on and i was campaigning at that time and i said you know what we're never going to let that happen on my watch i'm going to fight really hard to make sure we pass budgets on time so people have the money for the vital services they need and we have five budgets now that i've been in we've passed on time it's a big job because there's a lot of fighting and i'm going to get it over and we did it without raising taxes each time and even though we had some spending increases we were able to get revenues from different sources and able to do that so  think that's a very positive thing that's going on we have we've done a number of other things out there we like i say i'm really proud of the liquor privatization when i was going around knocking on doors and i still do that every election my wife and i are up to almost forty thousand dollars total  now starting with eighteen thousand the first time i mean people would tell me when you're going to fix the liquor thing well we put you in there the second or third time then we put you in there yet you haven't fixed the liquor thing and i'm like i've you know we voted to pass this thing you know we've got to get it through both houses and the governor so we have we brought that up you know it's ready to it's it's already all it has to do is be signed this pension problem it's a positive thing that we're doing it's not the end all it's just the first step in fixing the pension problem but we're going to have to fix it and this is the starting point and it's a great one i think it will get us on the right track it will help relieve some of the tension and stress from the taxpayer and it'll it's a fair program to give new employees and it only affects new employees i retired or they're about to retire now so require you taken away or we're not sides i tell the end stop telling that's laurie this is what we propose only applies to new employees and i think it's fair because it puts them on the same level as the people that are actually paying for their pension the taxpayers well it's funny you say that because i was a teacher i am on a pension and the bottom line is whenever i was teaching hearing the stories as you say that the little notes that comes out  wonder where these people are getting this stuff from and it has to be some from somebody who has a very distorted view of they have their view not the real view as my father would say on any door if you go on one side the door knobs on the left you go on the other side it's on the right same door but in this case that's not the case it's not the same door it's not the same issue it's not the same promise it's not there and i agree les said the idea was on state committee they had talked about  whatever program that would be taking place to replace or change the rip current retirement system when start with any of the people that are in the system it would start and a year or two down the road so everybody would understand what the system is before the came and they were they when come in get a job and go wait i didn't know i didn't have that exactly right so there's a lay said this so many other issues going on right now but without a budget really nothing can move forward i mean the whole state but i did employees that work there funding the things that you need in the office they've already spent theirs they ran out of money they had to borrow money the treasury had to give them money to for the for the democratic caucus to keep to keep going right i think that's the sky i think the people should be should be not i want to laugh but it's not it's really just not fun not funny i mean this is a this is like a mini scandal i think the people that have elected this people in the democratic caucus should be asking why did you do with all the money that we gave you to run your you know your side of the aisle that you spent it all and it's such mismanagement it's such an embarrassment but the media obviously isn't picking up on that well they don't want to be less less put it this way and to be perfectly honest with you the media is the mouthpiece for that party and they will if they don't want to put them in a bad light in anything so they don't talk about it which is which is quite sad because you know the days of edward r murrow he told the story the way it was not a slanted one way course the media wasn't owned by disney who received billions from the federal government they weren't owned by major corporations that in fact are major supporters of the democratic party  but truly believe that they're told you know we see that good morning vietnam movie where the guys are sitting there talking off everything they're allowed to say and i believe that they probably have somebody there saying well you can talk about this and talk about this all talk about this on the trump says something silly talk about that don't talk about hillary you know violating twenty seven lost yesterday so i mean it's quite sad that we can't trust them the media the way we used to i mean i you know every household used to listen to those people and they were in your living room talking to you personally promising you that what they were saying was the truth not their view of the truth not somebody else's view and it said anything about a bill i am out there while we're about to go pin you may not know but next year twenty sixteen will be the sixtieth anniversary of in god we trust as our national motto and it's a great pennsylvania history story it goes back to our thirteenth governor james pollack who before he was governor he was actually a us congressman and he had the good fortune to take a room with another freshman congressman by the name of abraham lincoln they became great friends and when lincoln became president right during the middle of a civil war he appointed james policy director of the u s mint in philadelphia and pollack got a letter from a pastor saying our country so divided we're in a middle  war why don't we do something on ours god put it on our coins to help unite our country and he said fine he came up with this saying in god we trust he got it approved by the secretary of treasury salmon chase by congress and lincoln and it went on our coins in eight hundred sixty four it was in our national motto yet but it was on our hundred sixty four so we just celebrated one hundred fiftieth anniversary last year of it being on our coins of the president eisenhower he's the one that actually put it through the bill through congress to actually have it adopted as our national motto in one thousand nine hundred six so we're about to celebrate the sixtieth anniversary of that and i just want to i'm starting early to get promotions and celebrations we were getting civic groups the american legion state chapter has adopted it as their theme for next year we're working on the knights of columbus  trying to get school districts both public schools and christian private schools that the diocese of harrisburg diocese of pittsburgh are on board they're going to help us promote it we're going to some television coverage of the model so we're looking for celebrations across the state actually across this country there's an in god we trust america movement where we're trying to get municipalities across the country to put it up to five hundred thirty nine now that have put it up in their chamber so i encourage i encourage peters township to put it up in their chambers and this school district to put it up and i also give a forty minute presentation to be happy to come to the school and do an assembly on our godly heritage and how this nation was founded on godly principles and how god has always been part of our government so that goes back to this pin we're voting the in god we trust developed this pin and so it's it's available to help raise money for a donation to the museum fund you get this beautiful pin so it's it's a really nice fundraising device and we're working hard to do many many things to promote our national mo ok that so folks can go online they can go online i've created a web page in god we trust p a dot org ok if you go to that web page you'll have first you'll see a beautiful downloadable poster i made that specifically for school districts who say well you know we don't have money to put up it's an unfunded mandate and i say here's a poster you can download it you can print it out it tells the history of our national motto and it's you can put it up it's perfectly acceptable to put up anywhere there's also a short video explaining the history by three minute video is very well done and there's some other things on there including the pin and some other some other pins and some other memorabilia that you can that you can buy if you're interested occluding a window cling that you can put up in your window says  we trust on it so we're trying to get as many people as possible involved starting now and planning through july thirtieth the anniversary next year to start celebrating and and talking about this great pennsylvania history story such a positive thing we have this motto and a time when our culture is crashing down around us and our kids are bombarded with so many negatives in their life that here's here's our national motto is so positive there's so much power in this for words and it's been an inspiration i tell stories about how to not own in our country of course it was put our coins to unite our country during the civil war so it's it's not divisive it's very uniting and about around the world how other countries have look even in north korea how other countries have looked at those four words to inspire them to want to know more and want to find out about why that model is so powerful so i'm hoping we can be very successful next year celebrating it well that's the that's i mean i said i've i looked at i thought it might be a state legislator pin but i know that's that's over there yeah that's on the other side  well let's let's just lead right into as you have a number of books you've written and the first while the lot last one is god in our government most recently i've gone to our government because i find that most people many of the adults many of our schools aren't teaching godly heritage and how our nation is fun and how god has always been part of our government i always use i like these two quick examples as you know our president when he swears the oath that makes him the chief executive of our of our country he swears it on the bible and it was started by george washington who not only stories on the bible he added so help me god to the oath and he bent over and kissed that bible and every president since then has done that and has continued that tradition so god is still part of even president obama swore his oath not on one bible he swore on two bible seize the martin luther king bible in the abraham lincoln bible to swear his oath so that's god is a part of our government right there it's a part of our tradition so i always like to say our president's war is on a stack of b so we need to you know we need to hold him to those principles and it's funny that you say that because most people once again we seem to try to get away from our moral compass and we try to in fact allow different things to be added to our constitution that were never there was never expected to be their own and the interplay between people the the powers of the government has to listen in to the conversations of whatever whenever the constitution specifically says if you don't have a warrant you can't do that you know and so we given up some freedoms because we think it's convenient because it's anti terrorism or whatever reason and as i told my kids in the class because i taught civics don't ever give up all right i don't because if you get up during the good times when you needed during the bad times it's not there to protect you and and this country seems to walk away from the constitution people don't understand that the forefathers who wrote the constitution were geniuses i'm not worried i'm not so sure about the people running it now but he said those people actually gave thoughtfulness and consideration the sides of the fact that every state constitution mentions god yeah let me tell you this you will get far in our president i should have brought a copy with me but the very first word the very first line of our pennsylvania state constitution is we the people of the commonwealth of pennsylvania grateful to almighty god for his blessings of civil religious liberty and humbly invoking his guidance to here by our dana and establish this constitution so i'm telling you and i'm telling the people back home if the people that wrote our constitution invoked god's guidance to write it should i do any less when i'm writing laws in harrisburg today wouldn't our laws be better off if we invoked god's guidance before we wrote them just as our founders day when they wrote our pennsylvania constitution so it's out there in that book highlights all these things are liberty being given down to see the liberty bell in philadelphia right across the top of that most people don't know is leviticus in four inch letters leviticus twenty five scriptures either painted or chiseled in the walls for people to see it's like a cathedral up there so god has always been a part of our government our kids aren't being taught that to entire generations now are being taught the nonsense that there's there's been a separation of god from or from our from our government god can never be part of our government he's always been there he is still there we're trying to push him out and i wrote a book to try to highlight how god has been there and what that means to our country and what that means to our history well you know what i've had discussions with people recently  separation of church and state and they seem to feel like it's everything it's a you can't in government you can't talk about religion and religion you can't talk about government and that's not the case the of and correct me because you're the perfect person to correct me if i'm wrong the case whenever the constitution was written it was a case where they just didn't want this to be a country run by one religion like like spain illumination right one did not they wanted all denominations to have the opportunity to grow and develop but they didn't want to buy one and that was their idea of the separation of church and state it wasn't nitpicking down to you know which got out right in the evidence of that is through all of our documents and through icons and through our through our buildings and so forth the evidence is all there and that's what i highlight in the book because people overlook that i mean you go to many of our great monuments and listen to the words  way through these negotiating your way through korea living with the enemy inside korea north korea north korea i'm sorry yes living with the enemy inside north korea by you back in two thousand and six koreans to remember once again in these can be picked up an amazon got dot com there's a whole list of them for anybody who'd be interested i like you said i've read three of them so far they're actually very good reading thank you and i like you said this last one of course i got into many discussions with my students about their their understanding of what their misunderstanding of what separation of church and state means versus that of what the true meaning is and there was  interesting conversation but they said whenever i had the prince will call me and say your kids or are you all of these other kids in this other class i said who's winning that worked out well all right well let's get so the last major topic that we have is facing our country today and you are a perfect person to discuss this because of your history not only during the clinton administration dealing with nuclear power plants in north korea you were the representative for our government during those discussions you had the opportunity to see firsthand what they were then what they became today i mean eight as we speak north korea says i'm a nuclear complex operation warns the us all right when we were trying to negotiate with them back during the clinton administration on not sure went well i'm not sure because it lit led to them having a nuclear capacity that is now threatening south korea as well as them i said on a o l this is a major headline today for the number one out of their forty eight pages that in fact north korea is threatening the u s again so why don't you i want you to discuss that little bit but mostly i want you to tell us what is wrong about the deal that they're trying to make at this point you know it's funny because the deal i see that we're making with iran today is eeri  we would in exchange for north korea shutting down their military weapons grade plutonium program we would actually build them two nuclear reactors to one thousand megawatt nuclear reactor power plants that were what we call light water reactors they wouldn't they were as capable as manufacturing weapons grade plutonium we would build that for them and it was touted as look we're going to be we're going to be slowing down north korea's ability to make nuclear weapons maybe for decades and and by and by working with them and helping them you know this is this is an united states best interest well it didn't work out that way and part of the problem was we didn't keep all of our part of that bargain either but the north koreans we we found out weren't keeping their side of the barn because they didn't trust us either and so  now we're at the point we're at today with north korea and i see the same things with iran but there randi maybe even worse and i'll tell you why for a number of reasons first of all you know we went when we had the fall of iran we froze for iran's assets billions hundreds of billions of dollars this agreement will mediately free up one hundred fifty billion dollars to iran which by the way you know iran is the leading state sponsor of terrorism in the world through its proxies like hezbollah so we're go free that money up to them once we free that up it's gone won't will never be able to freeze it again they will have it one hundred fifty billion dollars that they wouldn't normally have and you know what they're going to use that for a lot of that money is going to go to further terrorist operations so that's that's one of the big things right off the bat i'm not in favor of us freeing up those funds right away but we have this agreement and there's really little or no enforcement in the agreement they have a facade of enforcement but there's not really an foresman we have twenty four they have twenty four days if we decide we want to inspect someplace they have twenty four days to let us in now in twenty four days you can hide an awful lot of things before the inspectors come there to inspect it and and so it's and reasonable that we would allow ourselves to negotiate and you know i wrote two book two in my books were on the so when i talk about negotiating with a country like north korea it's very similar negotiating with a country like the iranians are like iran so and part of this it under this agreement if we find that the iranians are cheating in any way we have to take that back to the united nations and have them to take action on it so you know what that's like anyway in the united nations already approved the agreement that's right so it's the sat if we find some cheating the united nations would have to look at the cheating and decide whether they want to take action and the action is in this agreement i basically all or nothing so the u n can actually restore the sanctions that we that we had on them prior to this agreement but again because it's an all or nothing type of thing if there's some minor cheating or some maybe even some medium level cheating do you think the united nations in scrap the whole deal and restore all the sanctions and unlikely it would have to be some major thing that we caught them and so the iranians will be able to cheat in a number of ways and you know nickel and dime a so to speak and get away with it because the united nations they're not going to act on it i just there's so many flaws in this in addition this agreement it forces the u s to actually help iran and our partners to help iran in their financial in their trade and their technology and we're going to help them to to buttress or improve their country in those areas again we're helping one of our enemies a sworn enemy that they swear enemies of the united states d america that's all you hear the downing we're going to help them through this agreement and the funny thing is about all this we're giving them all these all these pluses and iran does not have to give up their terror operations in order to get any of this done so they can continue on being state sponsors of terrorism that wasn't even the go shooting and this is one of the i unfortunately i have to say donald trump is right this is one of the most terribly negotiated poorly negotiated protocols to the maybe in the history of this country i mean we had given our the other side almost everything they want and we get almost nothing in return and on top of all that iran is an untrustworthy country we know that they they they have cheated they will cheat they'll twist and turn the words they're already reinterpreting the agreement to favor themselves and i saw this with the north koreans too we can come to an agreement we might we might think we agree on something but then the north koreans will say well i interpret those words to mean this and that's not what we interpreted those words to mean and the iranians are already doing that in the agreement as an even really taken place yet so we're going to run into that as things go on the in the implementation of an agreement the iranians are go reinterpreting so we are having this we're giving a country that is full of the hate filled rhetoric toward the united states all these advantages and we're getting that in return and finally i'll end with i really don't have the confidence that this administration as you're seeing it with what they negotiated is knowing in telling us everything about this again we know there were so many side deals made on it we don't know what those side deals were and i don't i don't i'm worried that there competence in the countries and the you know we had the overthrow of the government by by by radical jihadists so i don't our own administration doesn't have a good track record of analyzing and recognizing and dealing with this part of the world so i'm really concerned that we're putting our nation in jeopardy by going forth with this arena and deal and not not enough is being said about and i think the american people it's so complicated to them that they're still asleep on it and they're and they're probably saying well here hear this i hear that i don't know who to believe i don't know what to think i think the american people have to pay closer attention to this because this is going to affect us decades into the future well as i mentioned earlier one of our pennsylvania senators are backing this stupidity once again my my career fields in the air force as a superintendent of disaster preparedness or chemical nuclear and biological warfare makes me just shiver whenever i think of kerry negotiating anything this is a guy who stood with jane fonda after and during the vietnam war criticizing the united states for propaganda against the united states and now he's negotiating a contract with this of this magnitude you know i'm sorry i can't i can't support him nor the senator in any way chris i haven't supported him in years so but the bottom line is you know we we as a country are letting being led down by people who really  clue no academic is great i love it up until the they get in charge of politics and then it seems to really have a have an issue whenever you're making decisions you really don't have anything two hundred generals and admiral sent a letter to congress stating that they are against this and i mean these are the people that are going to be put on the front lines again if this all goes to hell in a handbasket now the bottom line is we put these people in these positions because of what they knew not what their politics is and then we still have how many thirty six or thirty eight democratic senators all standing in line like puppets wetting the no waiting to sign on to the stupidity i just i'm having a real tough time with that and lady said you're your experience of seeing this fail in the past is why i wanted your input today on it and that's that's very important i said it's just giving money to terrorists this is the same president who got a traitor and gave away five commanders to the enemy for nothing and now all of a sudden you know i said it's just the stupid moves made along the way here as you said is just there absolutely you can't understand you can't understand what direction or why things are being done in this government anymore and you wonder why people don't vote because they don't feel like they're there in taxes i don't feel like they're government in touch with their feelings you wonder why trump is leading in the polls now and that's because people are tired of the politicians and now everybody was funny because whenever reagan ran the same things is being said about trump now we're being said about reagan he's an outsider he doesn't know what he's doing you know this that he has made more jobs i'm talking about trump has made more jobs in the rest of congress and this president and the ministration have combined over the years and so they said maybe maybe it's time that we listen to him nah not absolutely supporting trump or anything like this but maybe it's time that we listen to people who have common sense again and that's everybody wonders why there's a cord that he strumming that people were listening to this twenty thousand he has a rally twenty thousand people and people are scalping tickets to get into it there's a reason that's never happened in this country before there's a reason for that and he's struggling the cord whenever i sit there and watch the news every day when i watch about the shootings and arizona when i watch about it striking a chord because you know what that's it that's what he's talking about he's talking about the problems that this country has not because of a specific race or anything else if he's talking about the issues we can't live with thirty million i just read yesterday in the sunday paper that scuse me four hundred thousand were thrown off of obamacare because they were not citizens well you know what when were they going to tell us this you know for the first six months the people that signed up for it half of them were not eligible most of them if they receive funds had were even tasked to send it back because financially this program is so huge and they didn't read it which was the problem you know once again that's another under this administration they put a failed health care system is to destroy the best health care system in the world it seems to be working why why do they want to do this and that's a said there's so many issues about why this government does anything anymore but this iran a thing i'm i'm i'm really scared that it's going to be to the f b i just sent a paper out yesterday saying the twin cities of minneapolis and st paul have one of the largest muslim populations and they believe that there's a large group of isis involved in that one wonder this like go on you know whatever they allow them into the country illegally or is it something that they've been looking at for years you know i just there's nothing nothing going on right now that how do you tell these kids is going to be a better tomorrow you know whatever than fact policemen are being shot on a daily basis you know we just had another one shot yesterday we never had these i mean whenever i came to school peters i brought my shotgun with me on the bus because we want honey we didn't have to worry about some nut ball shooting up the school you know we went after we sure we went hunting took of them and gun and went on it was great but it was just the bottom is how do how do we tell these kids that there's the future's bright tomorrow whatever the government keeps going down these very dark alleys and i do want to tell these kids that we have some we have some tremendous problems facing our state and our country but we're americans will solve these problems but we have to stand up and we have to elect people that will stand up and solve the problems and face them for what they are call them what they are and face the problems for what they are all of these problems whether it's our pension crisis our budget whatever their big problems but we can't we can't avoid them we have to face them square and we'll fix them america is a great country and will we will fix these problems but we are all going to stand together again we've got to turn our country back we've got to children want to hear that our country needs to hear and i believe it can you as it did during the civil war can unite our country again and and inspire people to stand up and do what's right and turn back to the moral ways that we that we that we inherited from our forefathers so we'll fix these problems but we've got to get good people in office to do it and so i don't want to i don't want our young people to go away from this interview thinking it's you know i just want to give up i know there's a lot of apathy out there but i want them to go away thinking  we can we'll change things and we'll fix it for the for the better because we're americans and we know how to do that you know i heard a statement made one time in a movie and it's amazing because writers always have time to sit there and think about things  but the statement was you know sometimes it's very difficult to figure out what's right but once you figure out what's right it's very easy to do and i think you're absolutely correct we do have the opportunity we do have we certainly have the people we do have the willpower but you know the the only difference between our country and third world countries are our legal system our law and order people actually believe that the laws work and we have to in fact do that we have to we have to have faith that there is somebody out there you know that in fact will support the way things are supposed to be not some political ideal one aspect of what they are today rick as always my friend it's been very very great to have you come on and we're going to get you into that that auditorium to give your forty minutes because i said i would be i'd be excited to hear that myself thank you once again for coming and joining us today with talking politics with