standard what i really want to comment on here is about the petition that i know you're going to the scots tonight my understanding is that you can't discuss it with me now but i'll just make a few days if i could sure almost a month ago on july thirty first i know you weren't there bradley presented a petition backed by one hundred eighteen under held residents to terminate the option to purchase the land of the road and we haven't had any response we know that you've had more than a full plate of issues but now our concern is with regard to this option that's running up against a deadline which may not a careful assessment should be made to determine any downside to terminating this option i don't know whether you've had a chance to do that but it in our view is you may get us there a needs to be pointed out that the select board entered into this option without motor approval originally and should be able to terminate it without motor and that's it company here take a look at it recounts a couple incidents one i had this year near the upper part of the lowering blish and one thing i didn't mention is that  representations yeah yeah therefore you know if lower english you know just driving in here you go for forty five to thirty a long stretch of tafe road so i don't think it's a reasonable siddharth twenty five know him i don't you think that data is quite outdated not appear to have a list but i think i'm asking you i think that data is very outdated that's my opinion and i would suggest you know we could go down the road with that so yes let's look at the old data enough to they're faster than thirty five miles an hour get on the phone to their people you know that's what i would do or i would stop in the road and say look you're going to file a slowdown or i'm going to call you know your yes even if you get  point out about english at all but they tend to pick spots where they're going to get a lot of speed or sell another thing to ask for in the future or whatever looking at budgets are another thing to bring up is to put more money in shares in this town because we're not spending for thirty five give some for twenty five would probably give some thirty you know and you know really get something for a reason in fact you know there's one of my neighbors who did not respond i before that was fun and conservation commission i think two different rounds of trail some of you know i am not sure where the trails committee's going right now it so we do it friday to through monday close except for now we have new people on board darla would have to take the day off and she's out really doesn't get paid where mona and basement that takes two three days to drive to drive so yeah that's so i feel bad that there were forcing them out you know as for time for building maintenance and so i was hoping that you would agree that they winter storm or something for them our goes out and we're forced to close yeah other than that i mean very rare that we do this we do this just every year and if i don't do it now it's usually for the joy i very rarely  everybody that response there are some things that i want to draw your attention to that we need your input just right off the bat although of course you're going to have input on this in many other ways i think we didn't know if the phasing was still appropriate nor did we know exactly what the dates and the time for us so that is kind of the deletion for your approval and if you have any other input consider right there we also have the sidewalk construction and that's just for the flats that's for that feasibility study update very unfortunately we don't have a figure that will be updated you know will have to be updated permits and here because it's based on to that two thousand seven figures so that feasibility study up date is actually going to be starting sometime in the next month or two  and brian from c c r you see i have recommended forming a like for like a better word steering committee i'm not sure the planning commission wanted to be involved every step of the way as a full commission i'm going to have  a talk with them at their next meeting but we were thinking of some stakeholders to be involved in that and so that's another thing pretty to consider also the building upgrades and additions t washbasin the sanchez and i we grew those in there those have been kicking around for a couple of years i don't know if those are still current or if the figures are still current and then also under the public the recreation committee submitted a report and there were a few things that the planning commission decided not to include these are the things that they were they were good with the issue with these are that some of the figures are probably not current and i had to take a guess as to where these should go in terms of the budget year and she go and i use the information that he gave about how long he used infrastructure things last and when they what their placement schedule is for them i just did my best also since these are requests feel free to again put your input as to whether or not you want them in what year you want them in that sarah the last page is actually the proposed figures we can it all just depends on the availability of the grants whether or not we can combine the grants the maximum amount and how much match there will be but that will be that i have to be determined in the middle be under project revenues as you can see we have granted they're just listed in there as placeholders except for this current fiscal year that should be fairly close to real for grant and also for the financing of the truck something that i've neglected or forgotten to mention that the model have to bring us up to speed on i think there's the whole thing there about the kind of explains a process is really good you know on this for the figures and estimates and things like that i think it needs work but it indicates your input so it's a good place it's so it sounds like it's the three of us meeting here first about this meeting where i think you should have a is also going to be talking about how do you like or you know how are you going to fund the capital that's already reserved because that's not reflected in your we have we have zeros for that because there's actually there's not yet all resurfacing right now keep in mind that this capital plan so they're talking about maintenance general maintenance isn't included in here these are is a project they're right right and we also have a minimum a minimum for a capital project of five thousand to be included in here mona actually suggested i think is a good one to set a minimum i'm ok all right so generals owning and planning updater just wanted to bring you all up to speed i mean thirty nine building permits right now which is about flat slightly under last year subdivisions we only had three in tw twelve but last year was a big year for subdivisions so we're down but we're also under budget we were under budget for the last  new dwellings i don't have the exact figure but probably about half a dozen include apartments and everything but i can i can get you those figures if you so i have gotten more inquiries rather than applications and in fact i've had two recently about revising approved subdivisions so we may get a couple more applications and i think that subdivisions as a whole are probably going to be low this year i had actually thought that conditional uses site plan review variance from waiver requests type things would be up that'll be that'll we'll see what happens during the winter months we usually get you know conditional uses for home businesses and things that are next week isn't good for me i'll just throw that out there's no not unless you want to do tuesday i just have a couple more things that i wanted you all to be aware of  if you remember there was some legislation that was kicking around earlier this year about making it mandatory for towns to adopt the f e h map when it was done in order to maintain funding for such things as planning an infrastructure of its i don't think that passed with quite that strong language but this is going to be the time when we you know learn more about what the f b i age is what the implications would be for adopting and what regulations we would need in order to be adopted into our regs so if you're interested in something like that that it is a public meeting they're going to be here nineteen six thirty yes if you're not interested or you can't make it i can do a kind of follow up something with you on that and we have one more request that will be added to that as of right now so what we're looking at is  potentially four revisions to the map again with associated regulation updates to go with that with two of them actually two of the map changes apologize the planning commission is still working on that but they're going off of two draft maps right now that they're comfortable with and they're hoping to get public input at least a couple of different things one somebody well the public forums we're hoping to get those scheduled for probably in october because again once we get that information whatever changes to the map and whatever changes to the regs have to have public hearings again right we have to go through the hearing process with the planning commission with you guys and then vote out of town meeting they considered looking at one of the math provisions and trying to have forgotten that there was  back changes that wasn't part of the original study it was a map change that came in separately it's a fairly easy map change to make and that was going to be the mother that they were going to look at for november but they just don't feel comfortable with that deadline that also would put a lot of pressure on sherry with the ballots up so we're just they said they're more comfortable just doing all of the redistricting all of the map changes in water at times so just in case you were wondering about that  she actually lost track of her invoices she thought she had sent us one and then realized that she hadn't so that the end of my and it was my misunderstanding too about whether or not we needed to actually submit some supporting her the last thing that i have actually before we get to the minutes i met with jericho representatives today todd and jennifer about doing a joint out location for master village master planning eco's program project if you recall that they are they've just released their implementation grant application part of that money million dollar grant that they got to do the the countywide plan update for sustainability they set aside a certain amount of money for project implementation grants and that's what open we don't know exactly what the grant is going to look like yet we had that initial discussion today we've been kicking around some ideas but village master planning is something that we do think is necessary so we'll be asking for the planning commission is in favor of proceeding with the grant application and we'll be looking for letters of support if you want some more information because it is kind of a large project just let me know i'll get that to you  i also have a copy if you're interested but this is online that are of p t for the grant application it would be the maximum award is fifty thousand dollars the minimum i think is ten and there is a match a minimum of ten percent but we can do in kind services for that so i'll be making sure that mona has a copy of this is well because it is since it's a federal grant we have to comply with federal grant requirements of as long a long with whatever requirements are for the specific application so we're going to have to move pretty quick on this stuff because there is only a month for getting in the application is actually due september twenty first so we're going to get going on there pretty quickly but i'll see if i can draft up a letter of support if you're ok with that after all right thank you it's not wait they're going to follow be sending one standards it's a very flat area and so there was not much going on there you did receive an email from or some contact information from a neighbor patricia gray yeah they're hearing is on the seventeenth if you can make it she has concerns about the road but here's the access application for your approval or consideration you don't have to make a  while and connecting the flats with the sun or the a sidewalk or some kind of capital or something that's that's there was going to be considered a thing after the feasibility study is completed with all depends it all depends on what the federal government is going to do to those things coming though it's just one of these things that's well those right now are they coming to go and they know they are the amount that they budget for it changes quite frequently so it may be available this year and it may be available  make sense this should be a separate little sort of or just to get flood recovery writer staying here dave said here for the for the study part of it i mean is that worth it you know that's up to you i i didn't really look too much into it i just say hey this you know was something that was relatively quick and easy and che said that or the reason i said that is because it's not the budget for this fiscal year and because if you do require matching grant funds we have a limited budget that's been carried over we haven't funded the matching grant line item but it's there's still gone which i was glad to see because i was kind of restricting the water flow there it's back to its natural grade so i'd be doing follow up and take another look see if there's even if there is no curb cut there he's still using that as great an area to recreate but she has a you know he has a right to use and property however it is right on property very very relieved for something like that sure it's a difficult situation to say the least i would encourage them to work it out i don't think you're going to see that yeah i think the issue is that there is there is no communication or at least satisfactory communication between neighbors also one of the neighbors whether or not this is based on i think it's  these people parked know they are right in front of the house from the house on the road it's not on the road it's actually there's like a small area that's just off the road it's only wide enough and long enough  away that makes visual sense unless you go out there yeah  just sitting right there so i my point being is really interesting that sitting there beautifully i need that information you need that information and these guys have it and they're working really well the problem is the information is not getting married where right and i haven't figured out  way for us all to have that information but i'd like it and you like it so we don't like it because you always get that question of a border is a clue what's going on and why is my brother better and if you can answer that clearly i think it helps all of us so i'm feeling i'm the same boat as you and i just didn't finish coming up with a solution i would have to get that information from the desk to all of us if you want to be a little careful about the same too much we're going to be here such and such a time  that need to be new songs one is for the view from ones for the end and there is a change in the number of months on the second contract but the letter attack shows that he approved with sherry to find out what the history is and i guess we haven't ever really cemented a delegate to go vote for this so i don't i just bring it up that they're asking is the town wants to name someone on behalf of the town the best way to make changes in that area if we were to go to our server as far as how they would like to see their software  not when they came on board here they have to learn it just like think what have i love so they've done it once before with someone who didn't know it to you a one man show no no no he's he's got i think he would probably have more vocal way microsoft's server software tech was going to charge my thirty he's charging seven fifty for because he's having us get it directly from without the microsoft the users would sixty with tech fifty three with him the server installed with a tech who was like eight thousand he's fifty eight so he's actually cheaper to go to but as far as your decision on if you want to be following managed or not it's for you come in because if you look at what we have for fees as far as response to the issues that was here i think you quoted like thirty five hundred dollars last year we spent  we need to pay for every password protect what we've caught and dullahan a divided one for now for this year i mean we're still far so do we buy for that are the as a town if there is no longer a post office there with post office cutbacks it's a huge it will be a much harder to sell property to rent to someone else in the future without parking so if we could ever hired a living next to it it makes it much better for a needs a ton of repair have been done long time we need a professional organization that's very well led certified in you know it's a sizable job you don't want to cut one guy show with someone here for a massive amount of time both these guys will ever be able to do it in a season these are the kind of companies that are sometimes a year or two out both of them could probably do it next year they both spoke highly of the building in its historic nature and thought that they could make it look a lot better than i'm sorry kind of pain is it just tell you what he said but i think one thing that we walk away with after some of the feedback not during that meeting but from prior selectman that spoke up afterwards was you know do you into the option at this point because her meeting  answer all those complicated questions people really do in warm term in depth research on our towns you know gravel locations and everything else i mean the committee did a great job of coming  with the next steps but when you look at those next steps it's a daunting task to figure out those next steps and i think that's what we keep running into and i don't think that the slave people are born here is has the time or inclination to grow those steps out feasibility study looking at the bigger picture and then maybe looking at the other to me option you know again we are kicking the can down the road because none of us have the time to rest this very complicated stuff  numbers done by steve waugh command that did show savings even doing all those things and i think you know vary between remember correctly in five and twelve dollars per household per year of savings but again a lot of those numbers were very speculative they're very general nature if they were but so if you could go either way and that's part of the people who oppose this thing is yeah you could maybe save money or maybe you could break even or maybe you could lose money it's not proven again you'd have to do some very detailed studies before you ever did it like this and i think if we ever went to the holder what you need to ask for is do you want us to spend money looking in to gravel pits in general not enough for things but any good you need to go to then in march to maintain fix things we all know i also don't think it's fairly over teams to take we have to make sure pretty sure we want to do this thing and not keep this thing locked up for them for six years is unfair to those people who are pushing a we could make that city but i agree it's not going to be if we do bring it to voters that shouldn't be just should be a yes or no question do we do we pursue a gravel pit which which is which is great and a huge thing to figure out we should be working on that why would we working on a small little side angle of of real stay option over here about gravel it's just so off base of what the but if you think this is going nowhere i don't see how we're going to get to getting that built for them and giving them their money in a timely fashion with all the questions ahead of us that's the problem and i don't want to tell them that three years from now one and we know where them sections are