this regular underhill slick board meeting to order it's tuesday may twenty sixth twenty fifteen and six o'clock any adjustments to the agenda folks or not ok will move up into the public comment period do you have to give you an idea of where i am so what's the process i was able to i mean we took the big corn is out of it and but the problem is is keeping it at twelve percent  l and i mean we really have to go more than we have to get to about just under thirteen to be able to you know we have to make up three feet that's basically what we have to make up from the bottom and that's with promise and then the other problem is if we go to the twelve percent and you have this ordinance that we want to minimize steep slopes we're going to hav  all the slope is really i mean here we still have to pull it all down i mean that's i guess that's the other problem with that is we're doing we're going to create two things one is i have to get rid of all kinds of fill in to this whole wall it's just going to be straight down along this side even out into now you're headed towards thirteen it's totally beyond what we could probably approve yeah but the trouble is about three hundred seventy five feet and i need three feet that's professional help on this tribally they give you a couple suggest sometimes a civil engineer to take a look at that and go oh well you just need to do this and you make it you know it's something we're told missing here well again i mean the way they designed it was  received testimony opposing the access that the applicant had suggested and  even to the very end of the presentation tell you this one time cost interest act one forty eight taking in state has no money so we have occasion roughly one hundred fifty thousand dollars this year for advertising and think like that and we're also going to be hiring two one half off half time contract employees to are my last piece of this is you have three choices you can vote for the budget you can vote against it should you vote against it or charter if you're a member of says give us a big reason for the board can address them if you could buy it and if you do nothing it's considered b one point five i mean with our current list is not growing so any kind of increase is a tax increase for us for a fee increase because garbage is going to go up and i can tell you two things of that two point one percent  up on top this is a twenty foot radius on the set every time it is and i live on the web the turning radius the turning circle for a honda c r v is thirty seven and a half feet and this is a twenty it was a wide turn around at the top or a hammerhead or a landing pad or something as it is you'd have to back out of your garage and back all the way down so the other conditions would be the de would the length of the driveway driveway not to exceed twenty five feet i would have been there to get some point they're going to want to park a pickup truck in there ok so we will work we do is we attach these conditions and we attach the drawing to them and that goes in the vault gets recorded so that everybody knows exactly what we are talking about so preference number one k do i hear a motion to approve the proposed driveway and location sure on the drawing for the shed option be not to exceed mcshane who is no longer full time she's slowly leaving us but she's hanging around part time until we can find success or she's planning and zoning administrator sits in that little it seems clear that whoever dirt tech is every in every slot they're significantly higher than the body else five percent on the owner and we gave them a letter with an estimate of what we thought demolition costs were going to be right on the six plus ten percent it was a twenty six plus a ten percent just in case  mean things the bottom line my own inclination would be ashamed of a lot of this fifteen minutes would be a dirt i just can't see a justification for that when towards a little bit because they were inexpensive because they're actually next door to the place across the street you know that's why their prices are so good is rusin qualified oh  and so on then we get to the construction phase where there's where we wind up with our six thousand dollar difference between thirteen five and ninety four that fifty hours for the construction phase component does seem low given that there's going to have to be you know the detour there's going to have to be the removal of the and even if winds fifty hours proves to be dreamland their rate is so much lower than well it depends on who is he uses those he's talking about or rate a rate trust that they could do the work and again if it were to run over on ours is there some way that we could hold them to this quotation or you know plus or minus some years on that i don't think i could go past their total where they located it primarily portsmouth new hampshire oh yes i remember now they have a local officers looking to have a field office in stoke where one of their principals would be able to there recently but that was our last project and it came out really nice and i would lean towards something like that but i depends i mean if it comes out at two hundred fifty thousand dollars where i'm going to be able to afford a box cutter no i think the temperature rose going to cost more somehow i must have le school but i've looked at it i don't understand it i find i really don't understand it is still has that dump going down onto the album door property i read the letter carefully gotten sawyer interesting lee it's got to him who is speaking here although in other contexts he has said that he has no interest in the property any more so the lots we have this perpetual who's on first question with this property putting that aside we have also brought in obtain for me today  it was addressed to our lawyer ok but it was meant as a presentation to the select board ok and it says the winter delayed taking soil samples or seeing grades who can soft have to wait for spring to happen and then the hydro it just came up with this and i don't understand what is being said here it doesn't look good it doesn't look much different to still dumps onto the alum doors upon culvert crossing over to the low side and then from there running down to the catch basin on lowering the settlement if i'm recalling it correctly the in our permit shows this ditch on the high side of the road you'll notice that it's some point since this issue came up somebody put some great sticks along that side of the road made up of denies having put them there but i can't imagine who else would care to be putting in big stakes only to look as though it's on the our forbearance on issuing a notice of violation and we did for over were there given the seasons and all that he had an appeal pending so things were a little as long as they peel  he was working on it so without going into motion practice or anything you could have you guys feel about inviting this engine year to community talk to us on and explain i they in our permit suggest going under lower in the settlement it's a pretty thick permit when they take the water all from here and here and come across and go down this strange well  him come in and explain what all this is about solves the problem it's pretty much looks at the see it looks like the same thing i see these little dotted red prior to them preparing this is that they were going to try and divert the uphill water into a larger storm water pond on our property and alleviate some of the amount of flow going downhill such that it would not continue to  erode as badly as it is now i don't know why there are those are all the specifics the validity of that idea that's my understanding of this proposal i'd like to look at it in a little more detail one question that i have for you guys that we have for you guys is pending a valid submission of a new stormwater design what steps if any need to be taken to then break ground and put this into place a an approval by you guys to say go ahead and do it it's rude interesting question and the answer is not terribly clear they're nothing compliance they meaning brant and his development group that's right ok the on and your lot that several you have to sort of it's a little hard to say with the specifics there what the amount of increase is i would definitely like to get an idea how dramatically that is expected to change  think from the beginning shelby and i have had idea that we were open to things so long as it didn't drastically change our intention with the property or the value of the property if we continue to move this effort forward from the day that we put the ink on the contract we were wishing that we could take that particular step back because from then on it's been just a two year waiting game and they're not all this has has unfolded before us we don't have any stake in the  current liability it's still under mr copland as far as we understand but that is that's not helping matters to move forward so we've sort of been waiting for him to act as well we've been waiting for  spring to see what his new stormwater engineer was going to propose so i feel like we're at that moment and i'm a little bit surprised that he was not here at this meeting at stormont or be somewhere in here this is for your d m i do get involved with this i'm sure you're going to have comments to the engineer you want to make sure that children can't fall into that i'm not certain about that yet and i'm concerned about in terms of this pond is that this is itself situated on a fairly steep slope you know i don't want the capacity of that pond to exceed its stability on that slope or we're going to have a much bigger problem like if that gets richard philips place right and i know that they had expressed reservations about those about me going in the first place because of things like this so yeah so i and i am concerned about that if if if we were to absorb you know increasing the size of this pond to proceedings and it shall be mentioned we we haven't counsel to represent us and we can speak directly to you guys who can speak directly to the eleanor zero s sure it's no problems there i think at some point if this does to chairs signature and we go ok