all right so today we will be talking about the decision to leave two hundred thousand salvadorians worried trump expressing his openness and holding talks with north korea north korea and the judge temporarily temp green card so i think that there are two ways to look at this basically i think there's like an ethical side you know and then there's the technical side as well so what do you guys think of this right i mean for them the main reason why it's a way for people to escape that and judge is the door does not have the money or jobs to accommodate two hundred thousand people getting deported back and but here's the thing though ok these people have been here since two thousand  like still the the act is called the temporary protected status act so i mean i don't think this was ever intended to be a thing that was extended on and on and on until until eternity and you know what you're saying but they have like for example if someone comes here to live in america they don't want to live here temporarily and just get sent back to el salvador and they're not i think that it's enough that we're letting them in here right then what even is the point of letting them and if we're going to send them back in six six can get you know back on their feet from the last think if you want to go and this last event you have to give them a path to citizenship and i don't see like there's not a clear one well i mean that's not the point of the idea but you can point out just not it wasn't passed to give these people citizenship and i mean obviously  there's also the ethical standpoint as i was saying like obviously like it would not be great for all these people to get deported and stuff but it's just it's what the act was passed for so well it's it's temporary and it's getting renewed every eighteen months but doesn't mean that people come here temporarily initially if this will come in here to get a driver's license it will to a job loss in the aging and a driver's license yeah able to get both of them and so i mean essentially they're paying ember you've been right and so i don't see the point we need to give them a way to become citizens if you want to in this program you need to give them a path to a way to live here because after this they are eligible for deportation if this has ended which means they're living illegally they're living in hiding their sanctuary cities but they're living in a constant state of stress where they can't you know see the car i know i i i don't think it would be good if they were deported by i think it should have been ended while ago well i mean if we did ended a while ago would be why you said before as well as long as they're paying taxes you could bring in a bunch of people into the united states why not bring in the whole country but the thing is they're paying taxes is that your point the thing is i was born out of the whole country bring in a group of people who are being faced with natural disasters like you know are the quakes my mother yes but they're not the only country the one of the interest countries in the hemisphere have the world's highest homicide rate that's no place to send two hundred thousand people who've been living in america for sixteen years has no place to live in general but like let's see i guess we could keep you could or you could say keep extending it until the situation get but yes better but i don't really see that happening any time soon i don't thing neither of you do right so i don't know it's a tough question either it should not have been in the first place or these people you guys are suggesting they could i don't think would be right for them to become citizens you know what i mean i think they should because that one because there would be a right to a bunch of other people in the room who'd like to be citizens i mean why should they have the right to become citizens well because they didn't they didn't go through the normal steps that anyone else would have to take to become a citizen there but he did they did they did go through you'd have to get approved by you have to get approved this is just a way that if you have been in areas where you have faced disaster before you've come in from countries that have been facing natural disasters and many forms of disaster it's just a it's a system that makes it so that you don't have to jump through the loopholes or jump through the ropes it just makes it a little you ok yeah sure that ha right ministration at the time did not want to send them back because of the terrible conditions and i think you know that's another so i mean i think if they've been in the country sixteen years legally and they've been paying taxes and they've been working there's no reason to send them back at the like well ok there are many many people have been in this country illegally and they've been here for a while as well i mean and well they're not paying taxes you know we are deporting i mean that's what paul is saying in the country for i think the is and these people are going to end up being a yeah i disagree with they're going to go from being americans to lot of the no not american past i mean i right there they are americans if they can legally no you're not there's many other ways to live in this country not being american you know if you're green card or visa right so they're not protected i'm saying the americans the sense that they can go out get a job without having to do here under the table where they're living their documented or they documented right so i think what if they're protecting their to someone who's under this act i don't see a difference i see we're equal is american we have that if i mean spend an enormous amount of time in america yes we have the same beliefs really so i think would be like if it will make you feel pretty ridiculous saying that  yeah after the in part it should be a path to get a green card or a visa but i don't think the program should be discontinued because i mean we're seeing this it's almost i guess very similar to to to the refugee like the refugee issue is that right if you if you come here as a refugee you kind of you have a little bit a little easier path than someone who just applying you naturally but you have to keep in mind like these people have gone through you know such a struggle so even if you come here illegally america as a government in general it's not just about giving americans access to the american dream is giving it to anyone else willing to accept it and i think striking down this program which seems is going to happen would be a step backward really do you know how many people would love to experience the american dream so many so many people in terrible situations that you know have x and i think we should be living in and yet the man is a man yes that's a that's a different matter a point where it's absurd but we should be loving and i don't think there's a interval conditions but what are we showing people around the world if we let's say someone comes into the country illegally and then we take them with open arms well well we're showing what we're not really what's the point what's the point of t referred to them to some african countries to it was quite offended by him but you know i have an expectation that he won't but i think the message we're sending is that if you're coming from a country where you're going to have to come to america illegally then because of the situation that you're just programs for several years just talking about in general while i was answering your earlier question i mean el salvador it's not a place you want to be just feel a yes you're going to get this program would be quite ridiculous actually the trumpet ministration it's not a good move i don't appreciate that it's it's it just shows the lack of morality right there people are going through so much struggle and then you get here i think if anything told them i think if anything i think if anything for the group of people that are already here fine i don't i don't i don't think they should be deported but i think that the program should be ended is so that i mean so these people are so protected but there's no more land any more you know they haven't been letting more people from what i've  actually to move onto our next topic here sure let's so trump becomes a little bit more open about i'm having talks with north korea what you guys think about this pretty scary to be honest the things he's been saying well yeah he's playing with fire we've seen the tweets and it's kind of weird because he started saying he's more open to talking to north korea and he like to have a conversation with the north korean leaders but i mean from what we've seen i mean i don't think that get along very well and he hasn't been trying to improve the relationship yeah i mean he's also been wanted to to join i saw south korea for for the olympics yeah the coming up a lot of acts and i think that's a great step forward right we're going from a men who was bragging about blowing up the world to a man who's saying you know what citizens choices up ahead make them just a little bit a little back i don't see the situation getting any better for the people in north korea right now and just based off of what that's a long process because you know i mean the u n sends aid and apparently it only goes to the top ranking officials and we 're not you're not getting food people people are literally starving to death yes and people are living off what like a dollar a day or something yeah and probably worse this event your whole life working for the state of north korea and then if you try to retaliate or try to  rebel you're not just your family you can even like ultimately the nations of your family they're going to get your grammar your children everyone but it's actually quite interesting because the south korean leader has said that trump played a big role to like kind of  it's fine it's just what you'd expect honestly i think between two lists and if something does break out if north korea decides to go rogue and you know destroy the whole world then having the axis to north to south korea would be amazing right because pedestal between when the united states and north korea right because if if north korea attacks the united states then china will jump on the united states and then they'll be after after  korea to probably side with us right yeah and so but i would put their wishes between china and the united states on a very good place and i think china would benefit from that but if the united states does attack north korea then channel back would back up north korea and i don't really see us doing that to be honest initiating things i don't think so and would trump actually know most definitely i don't see that happening with trump i don't congress a war has to be approved by congress and like i don't think it will ever come to i think we need to be you before he was elected right about the wall that he came and he did not he was not talking big but he would usually he was not talking about the war he's been on the diplomatic so i think he's more you know i mean obviously more of this is more of like really in person yeah there's a lack of basic there's a certain extent to how far he will go like if he's meeting with him in person he's not going to he's not going to be telling him he has a bigger but then so yeah that's i mean it's good news this isn't it's progress i guess the trump administrator has done some the situation for north koreans actually to your question i would want us to be seen to the same thing with a country like that because if we are if we start to relate with north korea we're not going to adopt the way they govern their people yes i know obviously not the way they govern their people  and they were allies with us and what happened they ended up adopting a way of governing i mean for a short period of time but i think if we have a chance to work together with north korea or some sort of partnership that could be great for the people be really but if you go to china it's more it's more there's a lot of capitalism like this sell things and stores there's private business and i think this is because of globalization and because it went centuries in china and we let them and they realize we can make a lot of money from this capital something and i mean be a little bit extreme but if we really do want the best of people the only reason why the people you know they're being in this bad situations is because the government is brainwashing them yes and then if we take away the the thing that's brainwashing them then they can only get children oh yes the children of the illegal immigrants and yes it was a status for them and it wasn't a good job to go to college and yeah i think this was definitely a very popular decision because so many people were on darker side and i think i don't know how to really deal with this is a really tough situation because you think they should be given citizenship if we allow more people to get on to darker it more people are going to come in or you know companies you know well but it only counts if you think it's obviously the white house comes out you know defending trump right for their master they come in and say this doesn't extremely outrageous and that like this should not be happening after trump having you know the bipartisan meeting the one that he happened to call dislike how any time legislation has been passed or mention the word bipartisan to say like oh this is great legislation it can still be pauses legislation in both or both parties agree i like the idea that both parties are trying to make something work but that does not mean it's the right thing to do what exactly do you mean by that can you just when people are trying to pass bills always say oh it's bipartisan which means of both parties agree we should pass a bill like in the end like we should be passing bills based on merit and how good and it's actually   the come up well we're doing it for the people who are doing it for the people but a lot of them they're not doing it for the people it's a political agenda and i really want to put it's not just republicans it's also i think it's from the democrats is you using the people the people actually struggling w suffering what are you trying to pass people actually going through some sort of struggle and you're going to use their struggles to push for your political i think it's also what's terrible about that is they get these corporate interests to pay for their campaigns that they democrats and republicans they get millions of dollars from these corporate interests to fund their campaigns and i think it's terrible honestly and always has for the people but when you look at its benefiting this corporation that three million dollars to what i see your points obviously like it should not be like this but they are still doing right for them the tax when not even the tax well let's let's go the budget let's go to the right the main reason why a lot of programs were cut off the budget was because people wanted people to the republicans specifically wanted citizens to pay less taxes but some of the progress of the cutting off i should help actually helping people who are you know disability who can't who don't necessarily have access to to you know food shelter and all the stuff so they're cutting they're saying it we're cutting it off think permanent but many of the tax cuts for lower branches of income tax people who are not making as much money they're actually ten which means in a few years i don't know they were actually yeah and so basically i was you know but all of them are temporary not all of them  after five years and then some after like twenty five oh no that's that's exactly what it is so many for the income tax i'm not sure the exact numbers but people who make like the taxes for the people who make less money are temporary and there were actually two to three years later and i think that's terrible and you see like well i don't think it's i don't think it's terrible just because it's also relative to the amount of money what would you make a tax cut temporary they're also what the no no the corporate we're the cooperate we don't have to worry about the corporation until someone decides to get them he was saying also ok we want to give you tax cuts income tax cuts for the lot for the lower brackets but it's only temporary for two years it's going to after two years obviously have if if let's say well if wal mart like feels completely for example the owner vollmer is not going to be making more money you know they're going to be making less money and that's a negative you don't want as an owner so it's all relative right so these companies might be doing better with these tax cuts you have to agree that the top one percent are benefiting if their companies are paying less taxes that's less money they have to shell out the taxes and then they complain if you have to pay five hundred thousand dollars before taxes now you have to pay three hundred thousand dollars that's two hundred thousand dollars for money that you have and then you own the corporation it's benefiting you right and essentially what i don't like about that is trying actually no no it's a it's a once again it's a corporation money it's not it's