amount is sufficient and the system could not do an independent evaluation with good litigation valuation metrics to determine whether this twenty three billion dollars that metlife the new york stock the findings if you look at the the record conclusory and there is not a finding as on the status of issues that i've lucetta saw is this heightened level of judicial scrutiny in class action and why is obviously litigated a lot in the f dollars twenty seven million people in this class i think they said well i don't think even a million of them could have appeared in they decided to appear i think you're absolutely girl but the way you do it is a hard journey to go through discovery and anywhere in the country as far as we are as defendants are aware it was the subject of three separate mediation plus a settlement conference with a federal magi circuit court notice went out to two point seven million member class approximately out of that large inverse the apple seem to fall over consideration of what the objections might be and i think that was justice mclaren's point that when we have a hearing an argument is presented all sides kid's different sides of the issue and if that isn't the premise upon which the system is based then how can it be even handed or for talking about the system requires opposing views i think them out of the illinois supreme court is hearing the other side well if you don't allow objectors you're listening to science i think that's a fair point and i think that  so vindictive well i think that to put it most delicately i don't think we're dealing with people who have the best interests of the class and well didn't the least r turn it over to my pal heading there after a week we didn't know whether it was in downtown chicago or florida or wherever ok so next time the next night indicate whether or not do you suppose lives are going to interest when you've got a baby sitter better than a good deal or a good trial ok so on a compromise basis we did what we thought was the right thing at the right time there was a case mediation a couple sessions a mediation with a sort of five eager there was a window of opportunity there was a lot of risk on each side because sirius was very favorable to us but we didn't know forms of notice one must face directly ok to two point eight million known members in use here or publication to those members whose identity was not know and we had to dedicated of those two point eight million one point eight million received no one form a success rate of nearly sixty six percent and well within the parameters of past cases though more for most was two pages and it came with a one page to opt out to do nothing or to object it gave the date and time for the final approval hearing and it buys the complete case files a bill at the circuit court and the  itself is on the second page paragraph d three recipients of the short form were directly to the public website that contain the same information opting out as a fault issue now we didn't hear today  followed nobody's due process rights were violated i know when time is up and if there are no further questions we would ask that you put behind this four years correct such that although it may be a period precipitators in this particular litigation it was not in so far as the relationship between the posy parties exchanged multiple exports were hired into spies and motions have been filed and tonight we have the opportunity again i think the ones in two thousand and fourteen sometime in may to go through a multiple multiple days of mediation we've a certified mediator and because it's a complex process it took some time but over a period of time we were able to reach us on this seemed to coincide with a new basic point of what is it to crawl to not have sufficient information or right to make an informed decision whether the selling was too high or too low because of the failure to disclose independent settlement council needs to be appointed independent settlement council needs to be a trial to determine if the settlement value is to my lot in conjunction with getting these cents per page i mean back maybe i'm wrong i used to go to the library and pay time peach to copy something and i assume that that machine was using the same paper  machine would use so you're talking about two million plaintiffs who had ten cents apiece damages in actuality as far as dollars because it wasn't just one but it was over even paper or was terrorism or this was a class action suit where people were actually injured personally and we're talking compensatory damages as far as  supposed to use a benchmark i'm not in a position to review went to trial court didn't say no he should have decided that exemplary damages should have been whole ten percent instead of one percent of the possible liability i'm doing this for one reason this is recorded for posterity and nobody who listens to this would understand when you say five hundred dollars that you're talking about not compensatory but you're talking about a penalty that the statute creates i don't i'm not sure that that's a penalty i just think it's a liquid in