happy to have her here to share her story rock and soon you very much thank you so much for joining us thank you for having me so before we get into what you're doing now i'd like for you to give our viewers a little bit of background information about the journey that's led you to where you are now ok i started out in high school being very creative person most of my life being a very creative person so i was an art major and i headed off to art school and i had had some experiences with some intuitive gifts that i had had and just thought ok well this is nice but i don't know what to do with this so just let it be and what kind of experiences did you have if you can share any of those i had some mediumship experiences where i was sensing some people that were around her family members of mine after they had passed and i would have some psychic moments where i would know what somebody was going to say before they said it or i know what was going to happen then i think for it happened kind of thing but it sort of was very sporadic yeah it wasn't anything that that i actually thought about and th had happened so i want to know how to use this they can't call it up you know i will so right i guess it's just well come on the women it's not up to me yeah so i just let it be what it was then i went off to art school and went into sign designing martial art that sort of thing and i was doing sign paying for a few years and then all said and i came down with lupus which is an autoimmune disorder so i had a buddy there isn't a yes i had about a year's worth of fight with that and was really in a bad place one day to really look at myself and say ok will how many to live with this him what am i going to do if this is how my life is and i said i will if things never get better than this what's it going to take for me to get out of bed in the morning and for me that was i have to be able to do some kind of work at least when i feel good i so i thought well if i was a secretary i could at least have you know do temp work when i felt good and then not work when i wasn't feeling good right so i went to katherine gibbs for a year back when he gave used to be the place to go  came out of there instead of working as a secretary in the meantime i had only gotten so far with modern medicine and then decided to go to holistic route and found a natural path and then a chinese herbalist and i found that while the modern medicine helped to control and sort of halt the disease it was the natural medicine that helped me get my life back right so i went on kind of alternative approaches did you try or did you have felt like you have to help you i went on a detoxification diet ok and i don't mean that as one to lose weight i mean that is one that's no white flour no sugar right or thing i mean oh no fried foods that kind of stuff and are taking a lot of natural minerals and then with the chinese herbalist there was time were you continuing to practice your art are you doing any any art a little bit i do many things as an artist i write pain draw doodle whatever strikes my fancy so i was always keeping my hand in the ar somehow it was always mostly a private thing though for myself but i was but i was doing little bits of it to myself and then i decided you know i haven't been doing anything for a while i had been six or eight years as a secretary and i said you know i want to do something else creative and i found the class yes that was how to make beaded jewelry so i went and made some jewelry started doing that and people started commenting on the pieces i had on so i turned it into a small business and was selling to all the secretaries and offices and things like that w do little craft fairs than bigger craft fairs and then i got up to where i was doing things like the newport folk festival you know much bigger more history just shows and really doing well so i thought ok i'm still working full time but i'm doing this on the side it was taking all my vacation time all my free i and i thought well what am i going to do with this so i have been doing a little bit more instead of doing some of the more holistic in new age shows and found my psychic abilities come back in where people would be looking at certain jewelry and not know why they were drawn to certain pieces and so i said ok i don't know where to go with this i don't know how to do anything with this it was it was the end the year december brand new years and i said i am exhausted i had work shows from october through december every weekend and works full time i said god i don't know what to do with this i said you if you if i'm supposed to go forward you need to show me if you like the path i will march down with all the conviction in the world three days later i walked out of my apartment and this store front of my house was for rent oh my god little shoe box and i thought well i think the bears are m this so i started out having a friend work there and that worked and were they still working at this point were getting more time yes i was working full time and i was having her work there and i would work on the weekends but i kept feeling the pull of i'm supposed to be there it's supposed to be my heart my story it's with to the people and talking them about the jewelry and reading them and introduce them to the stones i have such passion for crystals and stones and it was it was me that was able to bring that through to people in fact you know different people have different gifts and that was my thing and i was helping people to connect that way right so i really wanted to be there in my heart more so wanted to be there than at the office so once again i was nervous again prayed on it and said i don't want to do this i'm really nervous but hopefully you could make this transition less painful and i got about eight months leeway and notice before i was going to get laid off and then got severance so i mean it was just the smoothest transition and this sometimes layoffs can be such a blessing oh absolutely yeah absolutely this november it'll be three years that i've been at the store full time we just celebrated our three anniversary in march and we're hoping to go to a bigger store hopefully sometime this calendar year and what we once are a lot more classes and things like that yeah that's great so tell us a little bit about the  the jewelry that you make and how you make it and how you bring your intuitive gift into the jory i look at when i designed to look at it from an artist point of view not necessarily from a jewelry maker's point of time yeah so i go in to a meditation and do a meditation before i do my joy so that i can be coming from a state that is more centered and more about healing and more about spirit and i set intentions before i do work to  made several what we call medicine necklaces for for some women like power pieces you write a column for different people for just going through certain things or special pieces they only want to wear on certain occasions that kind of thing but i  also do a lot with the crystals crystals are sort of my thing and i just feel like i'm very connected to the crystals i feel like they speak to me and so i'm very able to help people find what stillness can help them and i help people understand on a more regular level that it's not magic there's no hoodoo going on here on a vibrational scientific level crystals do affect us and i'm helping a lot of the everyday people understand that so it's very fulfilling yeah that's great so i'm sure along the way and making this transition you came across some doubts and fears absolutely what are some of those doubts and fears and how did you move beyond them doubts and fears being you know at the time i was i think thirty seven and one of my meds at thirty seven the i'm finally in a lucrative career i'm going to turn around it was debility with insurance writing you know ira with all these things with stocks and i'm going to turn around and throw caution to the wind and open my own business you know that kind of thing and in doing that you know how do i go from a side business well while a side business can make money can it really when you have overhead that kind of thing so there's a lot of risks that way risking credit risking all kinds of things that way and ride and risking putting myself out there and this is my  hometown where i grew up in and it's one thing to get comfortable yourself it's another thing to stand up into the world that you later this is who i am and then what i do because the there's sort of one in the same at that point with what i do so how did you how did you manage to move amazing network and support system of family and friends so i don't think i would have been able to have that felix nest without them behind i have yeah that's great dad so what's your next dream i next dream is like i said to hopefully find a bigger store  i would really like to be doing my classes we had done some classes in the past but the spaces with the space i have is only about three hundred square feet so we have to read outside space and the people had sold that space and other people moved in so we're working on finding the right space now we don't want to just move for the heck of a ride to move right on the right space yeah so that that's my dream now is to have a bigger space where i can offer classes right now we offer reiki we offer private readings things like that but i want to be able to have more of that stuff going on an everyday basis with you know feeling like there's going to be an end slide and that they'll ever get better and or that they'll be able to move forward when he finds do you have my advice is question everything that's what saves me don't settle when when i was really really sick of the business i was on the eighteen different medications and like i said from one day to the next i never knew how i was going to feel from the morning to the afternoon and i was going to feel right i hated that unpredictability i hated feeling the way i was i hated the weight that i put on it was on steroids all these other drugs and serious drugs that are good for you to be a long term right and still wasn't feeling great and i remember my doctor saying to me one day well this is good your numbers are level so this is good and i said this isn't good  day and i said no and he pretty much had said well this is far as we can take it right now and i left not shouting at him because he told me this is going to murder right now but think and this isn't good enough this is not what i'm going to settle for i want to be better than this and i know i can  works for you but i'm there's there's other answers out there and know that and when you add in the whole mind body experience to healing you can achieve much more than just just medicine yeah that's wonderful i believe that only you can set your own limits right right that's wonderful advice wonderful advice thank you so much thank you for sharing your story with us you're very welcome that's it for daring to dream today thanks for joining us and we'll see you next time