this as both a medical issue and mental health issue they also knew her background they knew that this was repeat behavior they knew basically or should have known that she could live alone she couldn't live she needed care and or a watch just like they used i don't think they used the word watcher has to be done to prevent damage and to to address the medical emergency first d not in terms of her full recovery from that but to address that st and then when she becomes aware of her is yes your evidence of mental health correct so you so if we were to agree with you and we ignored the nd half of linda v which pointed out there might be a reason to do so  hospitals would have to react immediately in terms of assessing and then going for involuntary they want to place like this but how would you do involuntary if your hearing is on the day of the by her own zone but at this point in this case they weren't even aware of how significant the damage was as she had passed one of the batteries right but another one apparently  was still in them to test a crack to the point where they had to do an open procedure on her so at time of their hearing and nobody knows what's happening she is literally not literally she is a ticking time bomb in terms of this battery  that we have someone subjected to a very intense physical problem going on but at the hearing you would know that if could be that she's going to pass these bettors we just don't know because here that's all that  alternative she subject to medical treatment as well as mental health treatment during that entire where she would look or over say no advocate on her side she has no idea when she's leaving she does know how she's going to leave the imagine being in that room having no concept of time of outset you're dealing with a mental health issue agreed the medical staff is going to be thinking in terms of we've got to take care of these bad but why is it the obligation of the house there is designated as a auto provider if they have knowledge of why the person was a good medical and they have a familiarity with that person and that person has a mental health history why not ask them a media and with the homeless guy was was a pretty good example in the sense that just because somebody is homos they got frostbite does not mean that they are mentally incompetent or immediately or in need of mental health treatment they may be fully aware of their circumstances so you know there's not much wrong with me i used to be an addict i'm not now my life feels i like to live on the street so comparing those two they know this person tried to commit i may not be very voluntary i mean that the doctor assesses the fact that she's got the wrong medication so he prescribes sacto she know she's there for medical purposes she doesn't depression let's forget about the admission once you start delivering medical or know how the services to her isn't the hospital obligated to ask her are you going to voluntarily meeting with the psychiatrist and the nurse practitioner and us changing your medication so that changes the start and maybe that's not what to be seen by the psychotic no i don't want to see him that's pretty clear yeah that's ok he can come here and if you want to assess my medication yeah ok i mean that's pretty