chorus present to conduct the business of the council thank you very much and members this morning we have opening remarks by stacy coronado thank you they can share you know we just cut off our cultures and done watching the olympics and you know what what a sight to watch all of these talented athletes but we know their efforts whether it's a feat or defeat all comes at positive thoughts and as we are watching on our commercials with the media we see during the election our campaign it's either a good thoughts or a bunch of negatives so this morning i just wanted  to share a little something about positive thoughts abraham thinking once caught it we can complain because rose bushes have koreans or rejoice because foreign bush's have roses and then i came across this african fog tale which is titled this is good the story is told of an african king and his close friend who had grown up together the king's friend had a habit of looking at every situation positively and remarking this is good one day the king went on a hunting expedition and he gave his friend the job  loading his guns and handing them to them to him apparently the friend did something wrong at some point because one gun misfired blew the kings th good the king's friend remarked as usual you know this is not good the king replied and sent his friend to jail about a year later the king was hunting in an area there to shouldn't have ventured into cannibals captured him and took him to their village they tied his hands bound him to a stake in the ground and stacked firewood around his feet however just as they were about to set fire to the would they not is that the king was missing not them cannibals had a superstition that forbade them from eating anyone who was less than whole so the untied the king and sent him on his way as the king travelled home he was reminded of the event that had taken his thumb and he regretted it the way you treat he treated his friend he went straight to the jail and released his friend you are rape the king said it was good that was blown off and he proceeded to tell is for and about his brush with death i am sorry for sending you to jail for so long he said that was very bad of me know his friend replied this is good what do you mean this is good how could it be good that i sent my friend to jail for a year if i had not been in jail the king's friend repl think you know just a reminder to have all of you please put your cell phones on silent mode and with that we will proceed mr couper mr chair there are no individual signed up to testify in the council chamber or resolutions you had before you proposed ceremonial resolution and titled extending condolences to the family of extending condolences to the family of the late whereas first speaker of the house of representatives following statehood and first mare of the county of maui hawaii passed away on june twenty seventh two thousand and sixteen at the hundred twenty six and attended school the old high school and the university of hawaii and whereas commitment to public service began in one nine hundred forty six through one nine hundred fifty three as a school teacher with the territorial department of public instruction in and whereas in one nine hundred fifty four along with six others open the cooler credit union with thirty five dollars and with the community always in mind he was instrumental in growing its assets which totalled forty million after merging with maui federal credit union in january two thousand and fourteen and whereas at the height of the democratic revolution a value was elected to the territorial house of representatives in one thousand nine hundred fifty four serving as house finance committee chairman before being elected speaker in one nine hundred fifty eight and whereas speaker took by kind of a phone call from john burns in washington d c on march twelfth one nine hundred fifty nine reporting that hawaii had won statehood with passage of the hawaii admission act and and whereas america valya was instrumental in the formation of many aspects of our community including book brokering the central joint venture which pumped fresh water from central for two arid south maui making possible resort skill development  which provides free immigration immigration related assistance to this day and whereas america value also played a role in the creation of important social services and assisting the community such as holly my whole economic opportunity and whereas the people of the county of maui have benefited from this great community leader a man whose life is worthy of emulation now therefore be resolved by the council the county of mali one that here by extends its warmest condolences and deepest sympathy to the family of  outstanding leadership and unselfish public service and for touching the lives and hearts of the people that we county and to that certified copies of this resolution be transmitted to his niece landis music kami and his sister teresa browning you mr clerk spicer thank you mr and before i make my remarks i would like to thank you very much for the honor of presenting this resolution today on your behalf as you know it was a lifelong friend and somebody that i'm just i can't believe that i'm here today so i want to thank you former mayor was a giant in our community live on through his countless actions and bold vision elmer served as mayor but the foundation that he lead can still be felt until today in fact it could be said that the moet county we see today is a direct result of mer story it's been a crazy morning from the development of this building and these chambers that we sit in today to the bolstering of our tourist based economy that continues to sustain course the risk is for our community to important social services that improve the lives of real residents that have lasted on to today says as maui economic opportunity and holy month this is all because of elmer to me however it was his innate ability to get things done that surely separates him from just being a dreamer to a someone who truly impacted our community it is not every day that you come across the type of figures with such a vision commitment and care for people and i know i speak for everyone in this chamber that mohave county is better off because of the dedication and hard work of america volume we send our deepest sympathies to the entire cabal your family and it is wonderful to see each of them here today to help us celebrate the life of a wonderful mayor banker friend uncle and most importantly community as i can recall from stories i've been told from even high school days i would at that point seem to have some type of energy of a leadership development maybe whatever we did it they put out leaderships that impacted the whole state what i would like to share a few comments on this morning is a man that wasn't a public servant already elected person income your current background or your brain you could succeed in this county to various opportunities and i think it provided for many of us more than one opportunity to succeed where there was a you migration services office  benefited from the created union for a young couple we were married at just about two or three years and needed a loan to help us expand our home and could afford a credit union university elmer you see dear and he never really talked about money but he talked about life and what you intended to do in what you wanted to be and that was really what elmore was all about is knowing the person and going back even further as a college student when we qualified for the national ticket competition in orlando florida and none of us had the means to get there when we were asked to go see elmore we came here we saw elmer and we said i'll take care of that and the next day we got a call from hannibal to virus man you monies and others i saying we'll do this we'll do that we'll get you there and the four of us got there and that means of wanting to help others expand and become better individuals or better citizens or better people in my county was really how much montra it didn't make a difference who you were so long as you had that vision and it elmer said that's good i'll take care of it and you know once he said that it was done so i can for the rest of my life the person i am a lot i attribute to what al gore and the way he you led us to be a better county better citizens in my county and that's what i want people to remember is that we are here today because he had not only defeated but the ability to like that he said bring people together get us to focus and get the job done and we'll miss him but it will always be in our hearts for the rest of our allies and many generations to come we can be thankful that he was here at the time we most needed him when we changed from agriculture to our resource hospitality industry and he helped make sure that all came to  thank you very much or just a few more remarks about this great man we talked about a legacy of service with this family and for those of us the picked up tomorrow in news i think it was this morning we'll see kathy philips on the front page with the great work she's been doing through it and she's being honored and so you can see that this legacy continues and kathy is with us this morning with her husband l and so they'll be coming up later and it just shows you that it's continuing and i just wanted to say i had an eye opening experience this morning i was with them while he missed and i said i need to hurry i need to get the county council because we're presenting a resolution to america value this morning  in his in his memory and they looked at me and said now goodbye you and so i'm really good we are doing this today because i think it's important for those who didn't know him and even don't know of him to value you have to be struck by the incredible impact that he has had on the lives of nearly every person living on maui because he not only  took care of things like hollywood and meo and got those started so he was focused on the social service side but he was also focused on generating the backbone of the visitor industry which now provides incredible opportunities for so many people not just in the hotels but all the various businesses that survive because of the hotels so when you look at his accomplishments you simply can't minimize in any way what he's done for this this county and not just only but now he knew it so i think we all very much appreciate his efforts are very much appreciated the fact of the family has shared him with us for all these years i can't think of another individual on maui that has had the impact on all of our lives that america value had whether it was a state house or whether was here in the county building and he's just had a magnificent run and a life that the family and he can be very very proud of and we can all share in that pride so with our condolences that we share this wonderful moment with the family and thank you for sharing them for all these years and he just touched all the lives of everyone on maui in ways that most of them don't even begin to understand so hopefully they'll understand a little bit more today distribution they can share i'd also like to give my condolences to the family here this is this is a very meaningful opportunity to say thank you for the family i had the opportunity the great opportunity of sitting down and meeting for captain news a good captain of the ship i was a little bit nervous i walked into his office and we sat down and he came in a full history two hours i was only expecting half an hour but it was a good two and i think  two and a half hours and he spoke of the history of maui and his time when he was in the alleged time when he was a mayor and even when the time when he had run for mayor and then you know somewhat had to leave office but it was a great experience after i won the election i went back again and and thinking it was going to be a shorter conversation it was another another three hours but he was a he was as sharp as it could be his brain was still very very active he could he could remember all the details and he was just a wonderful man at least an inspiration for this next generation and you won't ever see another leader like him in my lifetime i think he was just an inspiration to to hear and hear the stories and i wish there was a book that he should create it would have been creat thank you thank you without him we wouldn't be here in this room certainly wouldn't be living where i'm living now in south maui so i really appreciate all the what he's done for maui county and give my i can offer my condolences to his family as well thank member's this morning we have the honor of having mr cook value of sister teresa browning and she'd like to see a few words and then we'll follow up with his niece go ahead what i have to say is just very brief i thank you for all the accolades but i think that one in very important thing was kind of missed maybe i missed it and that is that although he did the the tourists and the in the in the social things he was very very much an agricultural person and i teased him often and said you can take the man out of the country but you can't take the  him and he always grew his vegetables and his beautiful flowers and all of that but he brought the pipeline for the farmers just so they could irrigate their crops properly up in cool and he started that egg farm on a more pure road so i think that that's a very important portion of the roundness of his legacy thank you very much for all you have said and  really appreciate it thank you very very much it's good to remind us that there was he was a very well rounded man and he just was earth you know down to earth just such a great guy to have had the opportunity to know and i know the those of us who did maybe i should also add to what my aunt said is that he also brought the water for the hawaiian homes and he was instrumental in helping to stop the bombing of car lobby so he thought about  everybody ok good morning counsel and all thank you very much for honoring the late elmer carvalho my family and i gratefully for the every day people best interest he really was a public servant many of the programs he initiated initiated are still improving our lives today m you mentioned he really did and the other thing is every time he people would come to see him he would say what can i do for you he always did that and if he told you i'll take care of it you knew today and deacon our fellows and in the back is desmond ones who are a little bit all there because some of us are very tired and come today but we're really glad that we could make it so thank you so much thank you very much we'd like to thank the family for being here and once again our sincere condolences and thank you for this wonderful wonderful man that was such an imposed important part of our community thank you chair thank you very much m good coach perceived for the record resolution sixteen one zero four mr chair proceeding with the presentation of testimony on agenda items we've established limited interactive communication that enables individuals to provide testimony from our district offices individuals who wish to offer testimony from honolulu and also end up with district office staff individuals who were shot for testimony in the chamber please sign up at the desk located in the floor lobby just outside the chamber door testimony at all occasions is limited to the items listed on today's agenda pursuant to the rules of the counsel each testify or maybe allowed to testify for up to three minutes when testifying please state your name and the name of any organization you represent currently we have no testifiers waiting at our district offices we have one individual who has signed up to testify in the council chamber the first person to testify in the chamber is rosemary robbins testifying on committee reports sixteen dash one twenty eight and sixteen no further individual signed up to testify in the council chamber thank you mr clerk money everybody indeed everybody a hundred percent attendance next first of all and infrastructure and environmental management committee i would encourage folks to go back and look like excuse me on the august first testimony that was given including at this microphone them before from others hands from me so there's the date august one twenty sixteen that had to do with this particular one i'm sure you're going to be reading this one that gets introduced to you folks at you thank you and then the other one i'm definitely in favor of that personally second today is number sixteen one twenty eight committee report and it's recommending adoption that's who's yes adoption thousand dollars not to be exceeded but we've heard that not to be exceeded over and over and over again and they're always succeeded the first one that we dealt with most recently million and a couple of hundred others that was not to have exceeded so we're living proof breathing the same air now that we were when all of this went through so that didn't turn out to be an accurate statement today i don't and here and committee report the whole recommending adoption of this seems like a fast move forward they folks here first learned about the problem and asked by way of the only local locally owned newspaper on maui so we've known about this for a while and this just seems to have kept growing the information on it first came to this  the materials that were kept from those of us who were concerned citizens including the folks that were here in that capacity by way of having executives s what is in here our charter for the county of maui says that in order to do some of the things that they want to do so whole council nine has to have a two thirds vote yet indeed  they voted five zero on this issue five zero so we're in trouble right away with this so i want courage in you to make sure that if this is going to go forward any further that that correction be made we're all here so that might be able to without objection will close public testimony from today no objection take your sordid mr clerk mr chair proceeding with the minutes you have before you for approval the minutes of the regular meeting of may twentieth two thousand and sixteen and regular reading of june third two thousand with nine eyes zero as to clerk mr chair proceeding with committee reports you have before you from your budget and finance committee the following committee reports committee report sixteen dash one twenty six recommend in the following one that the proposed bill entitle a bill for an ordinance amending the fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget for the county of maui as it pertains to appendix a part one grammar of a new schedule of grants by departments and programs department of environmental management class recovery program be passed on first reading in the order to print and to that kind of mr clerk you know before you commit a report sixteen twenty seven recommending the following one to the proposed bill entitle the bill for an ordinance amending the fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget for the county of maui as it pertains estimated revenues department of environmental management environmental protection and sustainability program solid waste management fund department of finance county wide cost total operating appropriations and total appropriations operating capital improvement projects be passed on first reading in the order to print to that the proposed bill entitled the bill for an ordinance amending the fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget for the county of maui as it pertains to appendix b revenues fees rates assessments and taxes department of environmental management solid waste management fund charges for current services fees refuse disposal be passed on first thousand and sixteen relative to committee report sixteen dishman twenty seven bills eighty four and eighty five two thousand and sixteen respectively we have before you from your committee of the whole the following committee report committee report sixteen deshawn twenty eight recommending that the proposed resolution capacity in the case read by the clerk total compensation will not exceed seventy five thousand the complaint filed in this case alleges harry donna field was terminated as the now a county commissioner in violation of his due process rights under the united states and hawaii's constitution breach of contract and defamation and violations of statutory privacy interests among other things mr donald seeks damages including punitive damages the deputy corporation counsel said th department would represent the county and then mayor in his official capacity he also said that the council has proposed to represent me he said special council is proposed to represent the mayor in his individual further discussion on this item i will just point out that it was brought up by a test fire that the item received a vote of five zero in committee and the requirement of the charter is that passed the council level august first two thousand and sixteen to discuss a proposed bill to eliminate exemptions in the building code of the county m r u relating to lands within the conservation district and lands designated as hawaiian homelands your committee expressed concern that building code exemption allows owners of these properties to avoid the building permit process which prevents the department from identifying any new construction or improvements being made this has resulted in accurate county records the inability to assess property taxes and the possible reduction of federal funds available for the county should a natural disaster occur your committee decided against eliminating exemptions on lands designated as hawaiian homelands and agreed that additional discussion is warranted to ensure consistency throughout title sixteen kone code exemptions in the electrical code and plumbing code for conservation districts lands were also eliminated so i therefore respectfully ask for this council's full support of the taxpayers and not to be subsidized but only certain groups so i appreciate the committee's efforts and that years of dedication to get this passed this morning thank you thank you mr okama any further discussion have before you from your planning committee the following committee report committee report sixteen dash one thirty recommending the following when the general general communication fifteen days for be filed and to the general communication sixteen dash for the file of mr coach he one thirty reckon is the filing of general communications fifteen dash four and sixteen dash from four relating to annual compliance reports for a and b property maoi business part of phase two project pursuant to condition nineteen of ordinance three five five nine two thousand and eight here committee met on aug twentieth twenty fifteen and august fourth twenty sixteen to discuss the annual compliance report submitted for the project by grant john vice president of a and b ordinance three five five nine granted a and b a change in zoning from agricultural em too heavy industry on our one reson anshul districts two m one light industrial district for the project the council impose nineteen zoning conditions to mitigate project impacts one of which requires an annual report to the council which b has made significant progress since two thousand and eight all record infrastructure including roadways drainage water sewer and electrical systems have been completed in increment one of the projects sales and marketing of the properties began in two thousand and twelve and and are ongoing most recently progress has also been made on the affordable housing component of the project affordable housing will be located in a b's why ali master planned community but final subdivision planned for the forty acre affordable housing site  council to reports on the settlement of claims as of june thirtieth two thousand and sixteen clerk before you can the communication sixteen dish one seventy six from the chief of police transmitted to the council a grand agreement with the state of hawaii department of the attorney general for the purchase a portable field presumptive gunshot residue and explosives detection system and amount of seven thousand four hundred  dollars communication sixteen dash one seventy seven from the economic development director transmitted to the council a copy of the bulletin numbers zero seven dash sixteen from the state of hawaii workforce development council noting program year two thousand sixteen workforce innovation and opportunity act allocations in the amount of five hundred eighty four thousand one hundred nine dollars mr obama moved to file carney communication sixteen just one seven fo as in do these little items need to truly come to us just you know kind of work through it and figure out you know these types of things can just be done within the party mental decision mak political area but also as a a friend in the community at large we will surely miss him and i know he's in a good place so a good acquaintance and very funny to be around and we will be missing him thank you thank you any further discussion members to clerk you have before you kind of communication sixteen this one seventy nine from the director of water supply transmitting to the council the department of water supplies monthly source report and grandmother use report for the month and in july two thousand and sixteen authorizing the mayor of the county of maui to enter into a cooperative purchasing agreement with the state of hawaii sitting kind of from the lou and county of course for legal services relating to the interest arbitration hearing other contested articles of the bargain you know eleven firefighters collective bargaining agreement counsel the hiring of special counsel to represent the county of maui and the other hawaii governmental entities as noted times sensitive therefore i am asking the committee be deep discharge from further consideration of the proposed legislation members any further discussion this requirement by the affirmative vote of two thirds of the entire membership of the council allow the proposed resolution and proposed bill to considered by the council meeting by the council today nothing further chair any further represented by the hawaii firefighters association and the state of hawaii state city and county of honolulu county of hawaii county of maui and county of calais terroristic an know this is one that i would request that our eight sec representatives here at the frustration we had at that meeting at least get some sort of legislation that allowed us to get least hear what the issues are we were extremely frustrated at not being able to even know what some of the things that we needed to know so i would like to urge our  folks to get some sort of language in there in the bill in there that we can at please be able to converse with our negotiators thank you you know just to show mister culture that yesterday we did meet there is a directory of can we be a check and we did to bring it up and it is being in a putting together something and i'll be calling upon you for some help in putting it together so that we can presented at our and the state of illinois present their specific and so or you know issues to the arbitrator and arbitration so they're this is just serving as lead counsel so it's collectively more organized and you know one set of discovery or evidence needs to be presented to the one lead counsel and then that information to be disclosed to the other jurisdictions coun scuse me attorneys l'abri further your understanding is correct in that no matter what the state will always have their four votes and each of the counties will have one vote although we have not yet actually entered into the retainer agreement which is why we're before the council eat what you stated earlier is correct in that we negotiate as an employer group and we also litigate the matter as an employer group and as an employer group there may be for example settlement discussions where we must speak with a unified voice so it's a dreamy important in these kinds of negotiations and should proceed to interest arbitration to that litigation that the employers remain as unified as possible and present a united front now as you correctly pointed out  traditionally and historically that has this is never stopped each individual jurisdiction from advocating for or against a matter that particularly affects their jurisdiction and using this as a hypothetical exam they would naturally take the lead on that and be free to argue their position because they are the most affected jurisdiction and there may be situations where because of our operational needs in mali county  take take the lead on articles that would affect our operations more or impact our operations more than they would in other jurisdictions i wasn't happy with that expert witnesses i understand oh come now i'm just trying to figure out why is it was still we trace through train and maintain it in balance and in equitable situation for the companies versus the city that's something i cannot answer i'm sorry group i'm not sure i know which is the main members of this body he'll be for you this morning part of the employer's group i would say i don't think so because you don't think so we're not part of the employers who are well i the members at about it what is what are the real what is our status we part of employers well certainly you are part of the employer i can't i can't answer your question beyond that i'm not them so i don't know if i  we be able to get one set is if find out especially for certain departments that have unique challenges each member chose a committee of standing importance they know what the ins and negotiations and interest arbitration by their nature must be confidential the worst thing that can happen is for information to be prematurely disclosed and  are always concerned about the threat or the risk of being charged with an unfair labor practice by disclosing information outside all side of the negotiations i t sealed responsibilities regarding the office we understand this but i think his decision makers and representatives of the people we have a right to be able to be informed of information that will impact a final decision ultimate funders we are left completely in the dark until the the bill asking for the amount settled upon whether through arbitration or through negotiation is dropped in our lap  it was i think the strong feeling of the committee that's simply not right and it's not right because we have the responsibility to fund in other words we are the ones that have to come up with the money to pay for it and yet we have no input and no information during the process and i'm i'm troubled more by the fact that not only do we not know what's going on in the process or what's being asked for at any stage of the game whether it's prior to going into ation or or afterwards the public has no idea and it's because as was pointed out that we signed confidentiality agreements with each of the unions prior to the start of negotiations well i think the public deserves to know what the unions are asking for and what this but the state and the and the various counties are offering in the initial stages especially because you know i'm assuming that what's going to happen this time small largely what happened in the last go around that the that the raises that were provided are significantly higher than those given in the private sector so it's  it is a challenge and the votes at the state level are a challenge especially when we have very little involvement in they've firefighters contract by the state because they have only those firefighters at the airports and those are all special funded they're not funded out of general funds like the counties and yet they have four votes and the counties have fo up that eight sack yesterday and they're all very touchy subjects for those of us who've been involved for a while spicer i think you very much chair yes and i do want to assure you that the concerns that this council has expressed were very appropriately and well express yesterday at the second meeting and i believe the it will be a strong follow up we have to we have to raise all these questions that we're asking here at that level and i have to say that and then after a record conversation with one of our senators i was informed center and feel very strongly that there was no reason why we could not be given information  executive session so i think there are a little opinions but we're going to have to dig into this and better as through eight sec because then we have the power of four counties but we're seriously doing it emissivity reno did a great  and i would just look at it from a business standpoint when i negotiate with the i w i'm in the mayor's position and i'm the i'm the one that makes the final decision but my boss knows roughly what the scope of the negotiations are and has the ability to provide input and so i would agree with that senator and it's nice to know that we have some like minded souls in the square building that often has only round things coming out of  fact that we are the funders is extremely important the other thing that is is i think even more important is we're the ones that set the policy for this county and to be able to not know where we are in the go negotiations that's one of does they know exactly what i'm doing and what and i see the same thing the skyrocketing costs of their fire and what have you and i said what happened in the end she goes they reasoned with us they came down and came to a fair fairness you know throughout the community so i'm my own all right that's hard work there should be the same here so other states have a way of approaching this but number one is the open dialogue that so as mayor and so i'm not sure if our mirror's prevented from doing the same practices with us but they are in california there are mayors are able to talk to the funders of their their critical i think i don't see any way or any reason why the mayor could not share what the what's happened in the process with us in executive session but i had at the same time believe that the public has a right to know the general scope of the goshi asians not necessarily all the details but they should know what's being asked of and what's being discussed in a in a broad sense of oh my colleagues frustration when you if you were down there yesterday you would have seen the same frustration among other colleagues from other counties we have some unique situations here that you do not have in other states first of all that mare your friend never has to consult the state in what they're doing the states not involved in their negotiations or one of the few states that the state actually gets involved the firefighters police well i according to someone in the administration i also it's been happening for a long time and it doesn't happen in california it doesn't happen in other states right michel come up and most of the states it doesn't happen so your mare your friend has not to worry about a state because she's only say that it may sound easy because some place else does it but we have some unique situation but that could be put aside which that year i greet you it's time for change and that's what we're going to be pushing for it is not in this stature it is report back to us and in executive session the me also can report back to us so there's many aspects that could be done but the first thing is making sure that the state gets off the air and the unions get off of that you know we've done to dissuade for for ever and ever and let's do it the right way and having the public involved i think that's very important that transparency i we wholeheartedly and i think if the public knows what's going on and you as our bosses we as our bosses there and looks at everything and you'll see all the expert witnesses and say this is what you're going to get and again are we to she was said for these emergency services if i'm correct so that they cannot strike because we cannot have police fire experts i think that's something that we need to accomplish and that's what the checks going to be pushing for is to make sure that we understand what's going on so when we have to fund it we least have an understanding and we put in week we concurred with the you mentioned there's confidentiality agreements that were signed by the as well as all the employers so that is what is preventing i just the full disclosure to the council because within those confidential cream it's only report only to the mayor and so we need to be at least apprised of or at least a legal opinion brief to see whether the american disclosed to us in executive session so i think that's just purchasing agreement with the state of hawaii sitting county of honolulu and the county of coffee for legal services relating to the interests arbitration hearing of the contested articles of the bargaining unit eleven firefighters collective bargaining agreement and to enter into an expert consulting and support services agreement with the state of hawaii city and county of honolulu county of kawai and county of hoity for consultation services relating to the interest arbitration hearing of the contested articles of the bargaining unit alive in firefighters collective bargaining agreement and to file county communication sixteen dash one eighty proposed resolution of those legal services would be provided by the farm proposed bill would also authorize the mayor to enter into an intergovernmental agreement with the state and other counties in hawaii to retain patrick kilborne of berkeley research group for consulting and support services estimated at a total cost of eighty five thousand to be shared equally among the employers i asked for the member support because hawaii county with regard to hiring mr tatts a special counsel just didn't have the money so they could not participate to the extent they wanted to keep now depending on  choose to go to an t n or pony up and pay some money to retain mr katz for a full joint representation at this point they're planning just proceeding being represented by their own counsel however regard to retaining mr kilborne the colony or why does have money for that sole for retaining special counsel this basically the four employers excluding hawaii county although they may decide to chip in later with regard to the hiring of the consult expert and consultant they've already decided that that's something that they they want to do you for that explanation mr murray i do know they were in that kind of financial situation so again it's understandable how they're approaching  arbitrator will be picking one or the other that's where we are at their final offer is on the people you know i i have not seen actually i was mistaken i thought the deadline for exchanging final offers was last week and they may have been exchanges i have not seen them yet but it defiling the exchanges either just ocurred or imminent i don't know how the arbitrator is going to decide i don't think the arbitrator so i can't predict but there was a brief discussion that some of the different types of arbitration where the arbitrator will just pick one or the other in other words all or nothing and bud most arbitrators will you know some will split the baby you know there is if you want four percent i want six percent the arbitrator may come up with five or something else  sides do have some influence on the decision and dead to have of course they're both going to try to influence the neutral arbitrator so those three arbitrators have been chosen already we're going through the selection statute and they said i believe it was last week sometime but i've not seen them yet but i know that they change a final offer is imminent because this was requested for this status by the employees that i'm not privy or party to those discussions so i can't say i just don't know when to love to know them well i just come from my experience representing employers from the private sector mr chairman i grew up in a union house but my experience as an employee has always been to represent management and employers in the private sector so my new set of countries negotiate how we i don't know to what extent this says any bearing but we are in a well rare situation where all fourteen bargaining units are coming up for their all in negotiation at the same time only time in the process to become involved think about it the only time we had asked at the end of the day at the eleventh hour and fifteen name is the only thing council is as what do you think bill so go figure out how you're going to get the money from your community i think we can do it better chairman and again the i know you're just a call to you i hope you don't mistake my silence as disagreement with what you're saying is i'm just in the role you have to play for us i'm saying that you have heard from the councilors directly things that i think personnel services should be hearing civil service commission should be hearing from the county's perspective because at the end though they want to get back to budget we don't need to hear directors or chiefs tell us you know if it was done in the contrary we could have done this  this but you know we can too late and i we got to live it for the length of the contract we need to know that at least our demands are issues have been at least put on the table there was a discussion for whatever reason that was that i would get whatever is the outcome but there was some consideration that is the main thing we're asking for is at least discuss the issues that we feel is critical to this county's ability to perform through operations and programs in a part of our job is the fish and seas and real reasonable levels of financial requirements in revenues through taxation and  but i would be remiss not to bring up the fact that we do have fourteen contracts that are under negotiations they've all begun negotiations even though they're all ten and a half months from expiring so therefore i would be remiss in not reminding the folks at the state level and the other counties that on one hand we see what frustration we have in controlling costs at the county level and yet what happens with the t t if they hang on to it so they don't help us control costs and they did get a message from staff that the there is a typo in the bill that it should say agreements instead of agreement because the mayor is needed to execute i guess multiple agreements motor vehicle registration and state identification programs for the period of july first two thousand and sixteen through june thirtieth two thousand and seventeen in the amount of one million five hundred twenty seven thousand eight hundred thirteen dollars mr o for all the following code the communications are recommended free for all to the following committees as noted your budget and finance committee kind of communication sixteen dash one eighty two from the budget director transmitting to the council a proposed bill and titled a bill for an ordinance amending appendix eight of the fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget for the county of maui as it pertains to part two special purpose revenues schedule of revolving special funds for fiscal year two thousand and seventeen animal management revolving fund kind of communication sixteen dash one eighty three from the budget director transmit a proposed bill in title bill for an ordinance amending the fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget for the county of maui as a pertains to appendix c capital improvement projects department of police county wide county wide police facilities kind of communication sixteen  assets forfeiture program tear housing human services and transportation committee communication sixteen s one eighty five from council member college transmitted to the council chair proposed bill untitled a bill for an ordinance amending section six point zero four point zero four zero my county code relating to animal regulations for dog restraint and section six point zero four point zero nine zero country code relating to animal control officers kind of communication sixteen dash one eighty six from council vice chair goodman transmit  to the council cherry proposed bill untitled a bill for an ordinance amending section six point zero four point zero four zero my county code relating to animal regulations to your infrastructure environmental management committee kind of communication sixteen dash one eighty seven from the county clerk the matter relating to the west my recycled water project one million gallon tank pipeline and reuse pump station upgrade policy and intergovernmental affairs committee kind of communication sixteen to one eighty nine from the emergency management officer eight from sharon and suzuki ma electric transmitting to the council the sixteenth annual status report in accordance with condition number six of ordinance number twenty eight seventy nine new century my regeneration site subdivision why and generating plant members any objections county of maui to enter into an intergovernmental agreement with the office of the auditor state of hawaii to audit the schedule of allocations of the employees retirement system of the state of hawaii or s mr holcombe chairman i would ask you in the have before you bill number seventy eight two thousand and sixteen entitled a bill for an ordinance authorizing the mayor of the county of maui to enter into an intergovernmental agreement with the employees retirement system of the state of hawaii relating to the acquisition of a governmental accounting standards board statement number sixty report bill number seventy nine two thousand and sixteen entitled a bill for an ordinance amending the fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget for the county of maui as it pertains estimated revenues department of water supply ministration program water fund total operating appropriations and total appropriations operating capital program projects bill number eighty two thousand and sixteen entitled a bill from the ordinance and the fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget for the county of maui as it pertains estimated revenues department of finance county wide costs total operating you have before you bill number eighty two two thousand and sixteen entitled a bill for an ordinance amending section ten point six zero point zero four to my country code relating to cross rocks mr okrent thank you chair i move to pass a bill eighty two on its intersection with mills street why look establishing a crosswalk in this area will allow patrons of tiffany's bar and grill to safely cross the street to the parking lot and allow for better ingress and egress for neighboring properties tiffany's submitted their request and plans for road markings warning signs and lighting for the crosswalk tiffany's will also bear the cost of installation and the county however will be responsible for maintenance of the crosswalk one of my dear friends mothers was actually hit and that in that area and so took a long time for her to recover so i thank her i think miss cartman for bringing this forth i know i've been there a few times that late at night that the lighting is very dark in that area so i'm very happy to see that there will be a cross walk thank you they can just use been any further 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