over twenty second just gave way dates that's bad right now we are today's huge announcement days or one day all kinds of announcements coming in the tech and of course the the biggest one the one everybody's waiting for apple is making their big announcement later on today so we're taping as big as the last three announcements should be nothing prior to we're we're taping the show prior to the announcement so my my question to you is is there anything that apple can announce a that can fail or be that's going to excite a whole new generation of people to run out that aren't already i phone or i pad users interestingly enough there's and until they have that big separation and not just a big change in product but also a big change in product that everyone wants i think that opportunity exists anymore i mean really i think since jobs death you're drawing double zeroes and it's not too bad it's not the right way to put it but you need to have that visionary and i think we've been talking about this for a year  they don't have that end of the road vision and they're getting caught by others their competitors are jumping ahead of they're also making fun of a lot of things that they aren't doing that any play catch up and that is not a place they want to be this newer market of kids is accepting of the fact that not only that do they not have an i phone but they're starting to be prouder of the fact that they don't have them  niche market isn't the right way to put it because there's millions of them out there those apple competitors are starting to be something that people turn to and that is not the death knell for apple but certainly the death knell of their having  on the accelerator of this product i don't see it happening anymore when i was just joking about the the i pod but i mean that is a quick reminder of how fast things have changed i mean the it was just a few years ago that the pod was all that you talked about as far as apple goes and they were the the market leader and and they're pretty much have a you know abandon the i pod i mean it's still out there they make small refinements to it and i think they i phone or whatever will start to mac pro the one that looks like a little trash can and i don't know it and it's it's an interesting one of things i'm going to bring up a little later was was  i'm going to shift the gender on the show the agenda let's agenda but there was no agenda and suddenly there's like a computer lab but you know but microsoft has been having a spate of bad news lately just recently this this past week people that were upgrading to windows eight point one on their surface r t machines it was breaking some of the machines but microsoft has is so superior in the business world i mean and is so over there's so many machines there but they say that's not good enough we want to be in a consumer line and of things and apple quite obviously has pretty much abandoned the  consumer side of things why not stick with what you're doing best come up with new products in that space but i think apple's doing almost a much better job of that where as microsoft is trying it has been trying for years to get in the consumer space and  and before there were no options you had to buy a thousand dollar computer if you want a computer in your home and a five thousand or computer i could buy a two hundred dollar tablet and for most people that's perfectly fine and microsoft has been followed as not got and they've they've come up with products that were ahead of their time but they're never they never catch on it seems like and then they have slipped behind that another little factor that's the problem and  don't think they're there computing market is dead i think not only have a creative industry that's adopting those but also younger people i think younger people are still not addicted to macs but they're still pursuing  those because they want to do things that are not crash will they want to do things that are available to them and play with it and push around with it and there are a few things that are still in that range i love playing on computers but i have no idea what i'm doing on computers and that's the young market the people who like playing with those things when they can't break it you know somebody like me that messes up everything when pla that many times that they're not even ready for that they don't want to well and i think one of the problems with the way the industry is shifted and this is i think all technology as my last soapbox moment but you know like it's not a soapbox it's just an observation that in the early days of technology the people who were jumping on early technology were early adopters expected things to not always work and to be buggy and stuff like that and now what's happened is we've heard this into this whole new culture where people want the latest and greatest right away and so they're jumping on a windows eight well not very many people did but but there's been lots of problems with i os seven and people having issues with it but it's and in the olden days it kind of would have been that would come out and then you waited till the first update came out and then you you said ok on the net i jump on that and i'm thinking across the board there might be more refresh racial oh there's more of an acceptance i think for people but there's that frustration level because people aren't people are used to buying something and it working and apple's definite done a great job of that of very rarely putting a product out to market that isn't done isn't finished and perfect and microsoft all the time has always kind of released that's what we buggy version and it refines or even google a lot of their early products were beta products they were stuff that you kind four point eight million it's only a joke that is a still the number one or recaptured the number one selling single phone in the u s not a big surprise the galaxy s four number two how many is their official name i guess which is of course just been bought by microsoft pending government approval down the road just announced on their let me have fifteen twenty and that's the ten twenty phones that you're  able to shoot pictures in raw format they also have a refocused feature that's going on all their peers view cameras where you can choose to focus on the shot after you're done with it but  is coming up with a lot of great little features here and there still has that it doesn't have that market awareness in the united states it was kind of a you know  phone that was pretty big for a while back and then now most people aren't buying nokia is in the united states a cheap knockoff but the rest of the world bottom like crazy and i'm curious if the nokia stuff is hampered by the fact that on windows phone right now all the phones are are windows based phones or if that is a good differentiation because people that that are now used to kind of jumping from there's been a lot of people jumping advertising they've got the right kind of people behind those advertising pushes and frankly i'm in outside of the i phone is there another real system that's operating that i o s m i pads but right outside of those nothing else really operating those anyway and i think the i pad i pod i phones are losing their luster they're going to have a problem i mean the size of it remains to be seen but that kind of growth just cannot could not be maintained the funny thing is i'm noticing kids now i see a lot more of them holding on to their busted phones still and i'm sure it's for a lot of different reasons people are sick of dumping that much money into something that you know breaks doesn't but initially it was something very preserve and goodness they've got i mean i'm speculating of the twenty kids in this room my guess is four or five of them probably have a broken screen phone right now that they're pushing through keeping with because their contract comes up in this time of the end of a discount all that time maybe they just want to change over to another system but i mean my daughter busted her device and she's pushing it through and you know pay things happen we're not getting a new device yet so what is that and you're saying that with computers or desktop computers only say ten years ago you never would have imagined buying a new one every two years in fact most people would skip an operating system of windows or whatever you try to hold onto it for five ten years and now the expectation is with a phone or tablet that and people are always looking to thousand our computer only spend that much money every couple years but people are willing right now to spend five hundred six hundred dollars on a phone or tablet we're willing every every so often it's just it's interesting now that the phone has that appeal tablet has that appeal that the desktop doesn't do spend that same amount of money basically once you buy two phones you've bought a desktop most people don't even b laptops more than those books or whatever but a bunch of comparing what people were afraid to do before and now will do so quickly and let's face it it's an on me device all the time slipping through i was looking at all the kids on my account who were twitter followers of me and i said i was stunned at the number of the kids in my classrooms who did not have their block who did not have their account secure when a child said to me what you set it up you can't lock it down i know i know and another child said or yes you can you just need to use a computer and this was almost a brand new thing where i just something as simple as locking down your twitter account she had no idea that a desktop computer or whatever could do that for her on top of the fact how sad it is that the number of high school kids that don't have their  locked down but hey you know do whatever you want to do kids don't come back to blame me i'm yelling at you from ninth grade so do you want to wear more technology you have any interest in wearing watches glasses anything beyond knowing a phone i don't even want to carry a phone i don't want it again i'm a funny lady but i don't want more stuff on me i don't want one thing they will take care of everything and right now but really and again i'm a fuddy duddy i prefer something more powerful that can do more versus another trinket that can do less and i don't know if that's in a phone or a glass or whatever but i don't hear a lot of buzz around the google glass yet i'm not cool idea needs but it's already being banned all over the place is it a spy network devices that i mean that's what the banning is the power against it you know you can't take that here you can't have that here you can't record our consent all of this stuff and there's so many big time legal problems with a lot of that stuff that i don't know i don't see a big competition coming there i could be wrong but we've got to find the next thing and i don't think it's that i don't hear it ye you would you wear google glass at a i might wear it at times but it would definitely be something i wear all the time and that that becomes the question is what is this and see i would i would argue the opposite of what you're saying you want something that does everything all the time i want something that would do specific things differently for instance if i'm hiking biking i don't do those but if i w john out of a plane or whatever yeah glass to be cool because you're wearing it you're getting a first person view of things going on vacation whatever where you may not want to carry a camera around that's great but do i want to walk around with it my daily life and get notifications and and reminders things like that no that's not it creeped out enough still by people who wear bluetooth all the time i mean it saddens me you know people sitting at dinner with their family all talking to their bluetooth phones and pop lot of money on a washer a thousand dollars on a watch that it's not always a person that is a big watch fan so i think that that is apple's doing the right thing there i think that if you're a deal with m g m to get summer movies we're talking last about what i think it's awesome but also again i'm still going to be concern that if there's so many movies services out there and each one has exclusive deals  but i think you brought up a good point i probably can expand on what you're saying yeah two weeks ago just about about how this kind of does mimic the olden days of premium cable channel guess where whatever i think that this is a great time for this kind of stuff to happen but i worry that if we go down that path suddenly we're back to cable t v days which is what the whole purpose behind this on i want to be back in the cable t v is we're still in the cable i mean you want to  programming and h b o already has it and showtime has it so you're picking already what you want to watch i mean personally we had showtime for these shows and bought the blu rays of that show but it's going to be i mean if there's money to be made the gonna make it you want to watch these right when they come out ok we got paid a monthly service you watch the back stuff ok well you can get that for this or you can have it on that or maybe on the other thing there's money to be made all along list segments of who want to watch it now who wants to watch it later and is it this one oh wait you might be looking for oh there you are driving and it's we have no commercials but yeah i think that's like one of those companies that we thought was dead brilliant and his and i i'm wondering if they hadn't done the house of cards the orange is the new black type of arrested development rather than element type programming if we would have seen this turn around i don't think you would have i think and that's what that's what a company needs to do is help itself survive and netflix did some things that ticked off a lot of people starting off with the free streaming and then you know charging you for the free streaming and then really charging you for the free streaming but then giving an opportunity i don't want the streaming anymore wit all things are going through and look at album you know door is on here for my six year old but there's a billion other things on demand forget it we're done here but i still get the d v d s of the newer stuff so that's great for me somebody else wants to watch something else great they can get the streaming on kinds of things they created a new market base for themselves and that's that's everything i mean apple had been doing the same thing for how long a dead company in one thousand nine hundred ninety two thousand introduced the i pad i pod revitalise themselves kept upgrading then i phone same thing then the i pad same thing and they need another thing and right now it's not happening but this is netflix is i pod you know this kind of energy the funny thing is they're going back into places that had been sort of sleepily dying network television i think had a big dart in the new programming and had it was a little junky and over and they made something pretty edgy and brought a lot of great content back in bridging that gap i think well between extreme program isn't the right way to put it but something like dexter something like game of thrones is more adult in nature  content language violence graphic depictions of relationships those are over here and network televisions over here and i think they found this place in the middle where there is a real demand for it and doing something of high quality that people want to watch with big names i mean something cultish like arrested development that limped its way through the last season brilliant guy that was had no one watching it including myself did you watch it when i was on now it was junk at a time where television was dead going back and seeing it if you watched it since it's some of the best television i've seen that's great i would put it i wouldn't top ten probably programs and very unique very very funny and dark but those kinds of things going back to something that had died and bringing it back from the dead and doing a lot with it and family guy did the same kind of thing w l the show did that kind of thing as well as another show the props in the back from the dead but brilliant huge risk at the same time but they took three or four different calculated risks at the same time and those kinds of successes come from failures to mean for every i'm trying to think of those other shows out there for game of thrones or dexter there's a carnival that lasts for two seasons or a deadwood that ultimately doesn't make it but you have to take those risks to make success and great for them i think it's fantastic opening up that marketable speaking of fantastic transition gravity still the number one movie box i was moving the united states with million more  captain philips sixteen million the new carry the remake sixteen escape plan nine point eight i don't think that pays for arnold or lester sl cares or please don't see either one of these films or save your money your biblical sign of armageddon these are comics yeah no kidding wait a couple of weeks and did great somebody tell me gravity why it's so great