the i would like to bring to the regular council meeting of monday august the eleventh two thousand and fourteen to border  is limited to five minutes and your logic speak on any item that is a non agenda item which would mean it's an item not on the agenda and it will relate speak to that yes  and i have three questions for tonight last council meeting you indicated that you were going to send a letter to first energy protesting ah the further remove of trees and peters township property like to know if that has been done and my second question is i also last last week whether or not you to take a leadership role or be a part of a suit against first energy did not push it push for an answer at that time like to know if you've had an opportunity to consider that and if you have have you made a decision well obviously every major decision would be in a council session that's not occurred yet so that would be something you would have to put on the agenda for discussion ok third question is the answer is no it's not because it's ok thank you my third question final is the property that is in the re the basin area up be there is the retention pond area there is the access road to the pond area and then adjacent to that is approximately a quarter maybe a half acre  which the majority of the trees that are in that area are scheduled to be cut that is peter's property ah like to know if i could buy that from you by one of that area of property the edge there would be no no further discussion on that i could not we are pretty adamant be consistent with the fact that ties your property cannot be resold history smith can bring you all the details it's you're not the first similar request and the process there is that there is a statutory process in place and very costly time consuming plus there's also the question which we really never broach was whether we'd have with them probably upper big we couldn't just handpicked you to buy  and i'm not sure where it is it would require you to beat anybody other than you but nonetheless that might be part of the process as well ok thank you but for the record like to make it known that i would buy that property and a fair market think it's betraying me he him and my wife got into a little spat about what he wants to do now i've lived there i have seven point two acres and  going through my property which i cut the grass under and i take care of everything around that they don't even have to do anything so this he says well we're going to do this and that's all we're used to it and he was very he was it got downright ignorant as far as i'm concerned he had my wife all upset and then i it was raining i came down over the hill to find out what was going on and she she was into it with him and i said look i said there's a little dogwood tree that is in the lot under the power line but it is to the side of the par you know where the dogwo you know just like we've done for thirteen years that we've lived there he sold there's not a chance of that he said we're not doing that we're cutting it down we're cutting at dogwood tree down we're cut now flowering crab apple tree down i said well that feeds my animals out back it's behind my house it's it's behind my house and in front of woods which goes that down to hidden valley road and he's just would not budge all you know he just said well we have the right to do it and we're going to do it now that's all we're used to it he says well there's lot going to be any more discussion so i said well there's not going to be any more discussion you get off my property that's exactly what i told him and he did he did get off and so we talked to his boss which is richard scott and he told my wife the same thing he said she talked to him and he says we're going to do it whether you like good or not it doesn't make any difference we're going to do we're going to cut dead dog wood and we're going to impose we're going to cut more when i have any problem with i have some pretty big trees locus trees and and the place was like go for too many years and some of those trees should have been cut down there's no question about that because if they did fall they could possibly fall on the wires it just depends what the rection they fall and of most of them are the wind comes from the west the storms come from the west which is parallel with the lines but i wouldn't want to have any objection to them cutting some of theirs down for me i would as a matter of fact i would like them to come that's going in another tree because of you know we had a macro or microburst come through our property one time and one of my locus trees fell across my ag ford expedition and crushed it right in the driveway so there's no doubt that some trees need to cut down completely and i would welcome that but i'm here to save my i foreign crab apple tree my all my little baby deer  e sent letters trying to have them have a little bit more of a policy that isn't so severe a little bit more to what allegheny power and done in the past but unfortunately first energy has a pretty strict and straightforward policies forestry were goes and they're sticking to their guns regardless of what we have in that state legislators intercede as well and have got the same picture that we have gotten which is there's not much we can do now my next question they are giving simmons for market the right to have trees under the power lines and smaller  four but they are some reasons might be the orchard here are not required but those are trees that grow just like my flowering crap about the tree and talk the first energy anymore and they're there so unfortunately that might not be your best path because they're the only ones that you're going to get any time out ok then i'll change my mind that song there are not only ones what's i want to do what i can i'll let you trim it but i ago and we've made every effort that we possibly can do to try to get a better resolution to what they're doing to be they're the ones at this juncture is a property owner and you're the one that is  council i live on one forty maple lane and we're maple lane enjoy ridge come together because of the council members we have a stop sign and they are now on maple lane and we also have a stop sign on the other side of the jaw rich on made lane but nobody uses it so you could have the police department sit in my driveway if you wanted to and i would give them i'll give them permission to make people stop for those top sides there are young children to get on a school bus and often on a school bus there and that way why i know we didn't get the speed bumps if you can't or won't sell that property to mr rather and i understand the constraints are you guys prepared to defend we have to move forward with a lawsuit in this extremely fast approaching so we need to know whether you guys are going to be prepared to defend that property if you want relinquish it and how do we get it on your gender how do we know you guys are talking about it is there something we can do to request for you guys to participate in this lawsuit will or is your second question first you'll that you have to we have the rescinded just because if they start coming through window we're going to be probably one of the first people to know about it for you guys just because it happens to be right behind my back yard so if they're doing mine they're probably going to end up with the killer towns or property as well we  ok thank you thank you know and i tend to feel that we should potentially allow them and the reason for that is that there's a lot of movement for home gardening organic gardening natural  eating people to you know grow their own foods and have their own food and we promote peters as having a world of static i think that there is some concern because certainly groups have dirt and could have dirt and people would be potentially liable for property maintenance issues if they don't maintain them but i tend to sort of agree with what mr stevens said i think this is an issue that i read he said that this is an issue that isn't that big of a deal and so i would be in favor of the ordinance that allowed them and i agree with mrs merrill except that i wouldn't i would want an amendment to the second ordinance or i were amending it to ban roosters from residential homes i was i think that would be a nuisance i don't necessarily think that we would ban them from farm property but homes i think that that would be appropriate were there before i moved in and i've been here ten years sound i mean i think that people who are going to do this have to be how to conduct all for being responsible and i just feel that this is something that people approve a change in the ordinance to our army we have to adopt in order to adopt excuse me thank you we adopt the ordinance number seven seventy five that went with the verbiage that would permit next item of my condo unfinished business appointment to fill vacancies on the pork regs board yes there is a list of the candidates accounts were interviews earlier in the year as well as he the east side down to a low point along the about road on the west side property so we're proposing is twenty six lots do you have access to the site off of b about road via that if the property is to the south or to the north or ever to develop there will be connection points for that in presentation to the planning commission some of the residents had brought up some concerns with those dead  ends people driving off the road onto their properties so what we've done as it at the southern end of german drive there's going to be a mound there to prevent vehicles from coming onto the property south and then on the northern side we are putting  mound as well as five evergreen trees to prevent any people from going on that property as well so there are two of its bases visit said going to just over two acres in size for the two together this is the first open space the second open space is located here there is in this open space there's a large tree there's a large tree of yours while residents asked us if we try to preserve those so we did so through the open space and then this tree is in a farm buffer that runs along the northern side of the property in terms of storm water all of the impervious surface being roofs and driveways will be collected to be a underground storm water system shown here in blue all that water run down to the low point at the entrance to the site of rockledge drive to a detention facility there that water walton would be charged to an existing system that runs along the about road we will be improving one of the pipes along we borrowed from a fifteen inch pipe to an eighteen inch pipe there will be also swales along the eastern side of existing lots here on be about road since the property does from this side down we want to try and prevent any negative impact of storm water on those properties downslope from us so there will be swales there were direct water into the detention facility as well as an inlet located here that would connect into the pipe that we're proposing to install that we had to obtain an easement across a property there we've executed that agreement so we will be able   terms of a landscape plan we will be installing tree street trees per code on all the lots as i stated before we also be installing the farm offer along the northern side of the of the property and will be in water that is coming off the roofs and the driveways will be collected in the blue lines which are on around for more pipes they dish no water will be collected in swells anything that she flowing across these properties that does not go into those pipes will be can go into this portion of the system anything that collects here will go directly into the detention facility during construction there will be diversions wells that will run generally live in the same location but extend further out on this side of the northern side but we diversions well here so during construction was so help prevent any water from coming on to those properties in addition will be putting the events systems will go in by the time ships say that might be extended yes i know it might be premature as far as phone traffic calming like stop signs within the plan do you have a plan for those there will be the three school bus stops planned here and here so that if a connection does occur at this location the school bus will be able to come in and go through at this very time there was a school district walk over ok that was going to be my question so right now you're going to collect there should be plenty of parking and they're asking for two things one is permission for a special permit and also they want to get six signs i told him i didn't think pseudoscience would fly  is the propensity for people who don't want to get out of their vehicle to cross that lanes in front of the post office to mail a letter in the last pass do we anticipate a lot of people walking around support us or maybe i should ask if the police would enforce the no parking you're pulling over on that side during that period of time is there often people park people pulled over and just raising a concern because if there are people walking around i think it's potentially dangerous people walk off the curb they don't look mr lewis you you and i have observed that when we've been in the parking lot absolutely i have no problem with  just think we need to encourage them to take some precautions concern counsel have relative to the supreme court's ruling in fact on your current ordinance and this curative amendment allows you the six month the opportunity to invalidate your first book ordinance and to corrected by many new ordinance now what districts are compatible with the proposed industrial activities and what the council wants to do with that but at least this gives you the route to make that decision without fear that they'll be an outcome that will come in under the existing could i ask mr smith since we just got these can you just point out where you may have changed from the one that was sent in our docket for all we did was add essentially some of the quotes from the supreme court opinion  with before we move on i i was made aware of something that was occurring and this is in the adult baseball type operation it was not made as a request but apparently when on field one and then when that season stops in the adults continue want to play it fair to some contention over how do you get the in shield mode when that's not something your par said so i guess you know i never stop there i can imagine where the policy of lead in the week people do you'd feel because there was complain of that was too long but is there something we could deal with  now we receive three beds down fully or construction with a little better at twenty three thousand two hundred dollars we work with foreigners several times in the past it's pacifically he's performed successfully on these detention pond rehab all authorization to proceed with the process to demolish the residential structure at a twenty four year old washington road including the scheduling of a public area if you want to take the lead and some could i ask a question tom offline from a meeting i had asked i made an inquiry about a property along the trail with a garage and a house and there's a vehicle parked there and mr sylvester he said that was potentially being discussed for sale the building is really deteriorating rapidly looks a little like that picture and wondered if there was any update on the status of that and whether or not we could proceed for for are our group we require them to have insurance and that what we do is aid they rotate and residence in motors can who you know they can bring in whoever they want but if they don't have anybody then we call out  it's a little cheesy but it doesn't really say that we can clarify that but the i think that some of those should be you know should be included in what we do maybe maybe when this was originally written we weren't that big a of the new plant very issue there they determined that they're going to to come back in the spring and complete their project once the valid work project is over and why because they were having issues we're trying to get paving at night and  right and there's no way that's going to hold up come winterized of to be maintained yet or who does let me finish there will be the contractors responsibility or a difference between what they but they well