member campaign where we extended some of the i know that the big get to take advantage of a cooperative advertising and participation in the festivals that we do we extended it beyond the the borders of garner to danny and where we went up a little bit into this kuna went down west into some of the doctors row in that area and we we were able to get ten associate members ten would be a success and we know we nailed it right at that number so we're open to keep some of what we do understand that you know we might not be able to give them everything that they were hoping for but we do want to you know we do we did find that there were some participation even to the extent that one of the associate numbers has joined us as the resident wrecker tenant representative on the on the big board so there's involvement in their participation just outside of the big borders which is which is good growth is good so other things that we're looking forward to we're we're trying to partner with another not for profit in the area  next year senator around our struggle fast rule so that's been developed and we're looking forward to putting that on for the community it will help our scholarship program for the schenectady high in this you know high school  questions we didn't spend as much money last year because our snow removal costs were down so we're able to do a on t v campaign for the holiday season where did a couple of commercials so it seemed my channel six we have money that goes through in the two thousand and twelve budget the packing place this is roughly eighty seven thousand dollars so that we take no income or the seven thousand dollars out of the two thousand and twelve budget started the purchasing process in the vehicles for the evidence technicians we can probably  just your internal cost controls minimizing offset the impact of actually playing as we are i believe for the police department the most cost effective way to do it is really just b new cars running basically one here in then sell so there is no maintenance cost unfortunately we don't have the money to go through and replace the cars and buy all new cars and so these other vehicles at this point are not available and what we hear is prices on the charger and when you go through this cost analysis look at the vehicles th move the real cost of police car is the manpower we have to put into it so when you talk about a police car it costs more than two thousand dollars a year that's what it is because it's out there sea since its inception since the meeting in which the legislation was enacted by the council to establish the d s i sea and i have served on the board for about ten years and i just want to say it is at this point in time the most efficient well run and tight machine that it has been in ten years there's no question we have not increased the budget the assessment we have not increased the assessment for six years at this point we're only at fifty percent of what we are legally allowed to assess the downtown properties the cap is five hundred thousand over the past three budget years we have seen a reduction in the amount of funding supplied by metroplex to the tune of about seventy thousand dollars metroplex helps support th program or the folks that go out and keep downtown clean the in the hands months that we have flowers and someone and so forth over the same three year period we've reduced the operating chances in our budget by about fourteen percent and at the same time we've increased the amount of money that we get from other sources such as the annual block party donations grants and time and services  and i think that if you look at the budget really really carefully you will see it's it's there's no excess we are absolute bare bones and we really do to be able to continue the kinds of programs and support the activities we would like to see downtown we do need the small increase in the small research that i've been able to do with us far is i believe that there are boundary issues as to which probably should be in the district so on and so forth not that i can do anything or anything about the budget per se but i would strongly urge that i don't know how we go about to do so but really define the boundaries of the district to begin with if there is practically zero in there tha supposedly be in that order not so on and so forth my thing my interest in this would be to really grab hold of the district boundaries the properties that are within it move on actually i my office is not responsible as far as i know i was in the city as to the formula one song and so forth so i would like to add myself one more about this so if there is any open meetings i would like to be inv just have one home and i've heard from people downtown as well and it's not so much they'll they've been there they're going to increase but based on the fact they feel like they're not getting services so i think that's something that can be addressed more of you know making people making sure that they are getting the services that they feel they're entitled now that they don't feel that the money should be you know that since it's worthwhile that they should be getting services that they from the d s i think they feel like they're being left out and not receiving services for the when they're being assessed so you know whether whether you agree with their or not you know it's something that we have to you know when people make those kinds of we raise those kind of concerns it's something that i would suggest that you know we looked at those and i can give you the names of yeah i was going to say the owners that they have raised those kind of concerns and i would love garbage cans which you know are outside the services that we provide you know we make phone calls and city has been amazing in responding to you know those kinds of complaints when we get them but i can't you know you know want to holiday weekend let's say or whatever when there are city services being provided you know it's critical you know it's again it's not a service that we provide so it's something that we can address but when we can address it i think we've been very responsive to those  and at those times and we've had great conversations and move forward together as a community as a district and it gets better again we're doing this now for eleven years and it has definitely gotten bought over there is more services than ever before that people can access whether it's the holiday open house that we just had thanks to city hall to be a wonderful location for us i know some of you came down we had your kids here and it's great and it's a wonderful way to bring community together and then there's our promotions that we do whether it's the shopping because it's going on right now or the cash money that we had on saturday for taking active participation in our workshops for businesses to improve your business and you know hopefully get some ideas on how to increase traffic or increase awareness in europe but you know i can only provide so much information to people and sometimes you know not enough work or you know need is not something i can address there when we changed near where we changed our formula a couple of years ago we had a huge discussion with both for months and months and months about the issue of services provided with a particular business  services you should pay for the only those services but the notion that would be what happened last saturday of gorge promotion market benefits everybody worship by those people downtown as a whole and the of work in an indirect sense benefited everybody including that particular business and and that was just very hard for some people to understand and to see but i believe the horror of the complaints he is getting are really the result of the fall of that conversation the people who are objecting in the river east concerns by and large are the same people who had the same computer station two years ago and more on this very sort of go esophageal question does the benefit of what we do and i think the answer best be that when you look  couple times actually and you know i think that it worked it's worth consideration that we should you know this stuff again because of the impact that he was a saying it's going to have gone public safety and i know the point of taking it out was to save money but when you look at it in terms of what the impact is on public safety i think that we need that something that we need to be revisited and i'd like to see that happen and further and i'm sure that you know that you all got a copy of the letter is saying that it does it will not impact any finance anything on the budget when he actually says happened is what you said that we should do with the time was to go back to him and to the chief and say well can you move around in your budget and what you know what you do differently but that's not what happened we actually did ourselves and so you know looking at what he has to say i wouldn't you know i think that it's something we should revisit in the in the impact it would have on the police department the impact that would have on public safety you know our first line defense i think that  know given the improvement that we've seen in our police probably we certainly don't want to lose any ground and so that we should you know consider being able to do that based on the information or at least considering the information bringing it up for discussion in january for commune stuff there's a chief there's a commissioner to assistant chiefs and if we can run a city police department with those four individuals very seasoned employees with a lot of experience you know i take issue with that and i think that it is a very extensive on endeavor we're looking at and for someone to say when you think about the impact it has on the baby you know i get phone calls and and think all the time in terms of that and that's me very important issue and so if someone does this you know on a regular basis on a day to day i first feel like that's a time crunch with at the moment the other item is the land bank property disposition committee appoint minutes i've had conversations with all of the e u and also with steve strike and based on those second and he's certainly said that he will be considering and when we don't appoint to this for either his appointments or other committees and  process where people are complying where there are serious issues you know we know the worst of the worst the problem is some of this debate diverts attention of those properties and puts so that we get that message out there we get the results we want or the worst of the worst and i think we're all on the same page with it how do we get there how do we create a resolution authorized you to enter into negotiations or agreement and i think there were some reservations on the authorization until the 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