you were right that was your first game with the kansas city royals versus the astros and then your final game was oktober four thousand nine hundred eighty seven at age twenty seven so feel free to tell us how it all started but he did you well sign rather high school what was it like in and i was with well educated family my father went to berkeley my mother went to do good nursing school and my sister went to berkeley and this i was all set to go to college and i had heard that i might be a third or fourth round pick lot to do with passing instant replay and we was just passed late last week that we're going to see in major league baseball and john said on the phone to me he said we're going into the draft right now we have the twenty fifth back and if you're still available would you be interested in signing and i my mother picked up the phone right to spend downstairs and i was upstairs and i moved room and my mom said oh he's going to college i said mom i got it and i told john that i would consider signing of all things are right it was certainly my dream to play professional baseball and i would be open to it and said ok and later that afternoon i got a call saying that i was the first round pick by the royals and i'll tell you it's quite a thrill you know as a as a kid growing up i knew it five years  i want to play professional baseball and i was fortunate a father who simply spent a lot of time with me we lived on the west coast and he was the stock and bond business so was able to get home early in the day and spend time planting and we both just had a love for the excited to spend two years there and i just really wasn't hitting at all and you know my defense was ok i had tools but i was making errors and like most young players it was take me a while to develop and you know certainly at the time we didn't have the understanding about what it takes t all around successful player that we do nowadays so i was i was struggling in there was you know work very hard and stay committed to see my craft and i want to get double a the light started to go off a little bit i started seeing the bat a little bit better drive approaching right at the time well state now coffins to the kansas city upon i seventy you look down at the stadium and i'll never forget that driving to the stadium on i seventy and looking down and just it's a magnificent stadium even to this day it's still very state of the art of those built in i believe one nine hundred seventy maybe seventy two and it's just a beautiful sight so i'll never forget walking walking into or a stadium that september buddy we've heard you describe the telephone call that you god when you were invited we just we've just now heard you describe what it felt like to walk onto the field for the very first time and i'd like to take you forward to hundred five when dick hauser benched concepcion and it was your turn during the world series to come in and play and the first thought that came to your mind when you found out you were going to be the shortstop for that game we you know our our team in eighty five and many of the rules teams over the years donna have been built around pitching and defense we had great pitching in eighty five five outstanding starters and a great closer and so i think dick's feeling was you know it let's go experience i literally played the best baseball my whole life trying to get about seventy three points higher than my gravity i was on base a lot during walks and had the feeling i was very unique experience which really led to my business now working with athletes many different sports which we can speak about until years ago we want to fight with the neuroscientists what's taking place the brain of it happens athletes haven't known how to get back to that spot but they were able to teach that now so for later on that yeah buddy you said i saw an interview you did on m l b network with jim caught you said it was as if everything slowed down you couldn't hear the noise of the crowd you let the ball travel further when you were hitting like like you just said everything was hitting you in the sweet and made all the difference in my defensive career so that was a big difference when i got to aaa and for the most part i played like that in the big leagues i you know i could never get real comfortable playing in the big leagues and i never week and kind of after a week on the bench and kind of figure out ok you know oh i get it now you know and i figured out again i get back a lot of play ok for a while and that was kind of the story of my career but i would seek in for those answers and found a lot so what was it like to play with george brett the famous ball is in the hall of fame now is that one is yeah george in the hall of fame and george was a great leader on the field is that he was a player that really led by example in the clubhouse did say too much we had some great leaders our club in those days henry we had to how mccrea who is was just a tremendous leader in the clubhouse really kept everybody loose but would really get on guys i've always said the most important component to a championship club is to have a leader on the field that will do some of the manager's dirty work and because a manager just can't always be the bad guy and somehow mcrae was one of those guys where you know if you were doing things the right way it's going to get in your face and at the same time was always in your corner and supporting you and encouraging you and with needle you don't have a lot of fun we had a ton of fun and he was just a really well balanced team e in many areas however george is more of a leader on the field and how to go back your business how to work in pre game work he worked hard every day in p p and taking his ground balls ran hard to first base and broke up every double play had a chance to break up as did mcrae and he in both those games really taught me a lot about how to play the game in my opinion the right way and which is playing the game very very hard and it was you know it was there it was a great team george brett and he gave some great advice to my son when my son was five years old that you play for the love of the game and i just heard you say that you have to play the game for the right way and in today's in today's baseball market both with our elite athletes and with our kids that are coming up i have a son and just like you when you were five years old and you asked your mom as i read should i go to college or play for the dodgers first time not sure my son says to me should i be a clubhouse assistant or should i play for the yankees and as a mom and for all of the parents out there whether we are parents of young kids coming up whether we  parents of lucky enough to be parents of elite athletes like the brett family and like your family what's your best advice to being able to keep kids in a way that they appreciate the importance of practice appreciate the importance of the game and know how to stay in the zone and play it as you said play it the right way well as parents i think the first thing we want to do is make sure that we are our kids are playing for the right reason not because we want them to we want to make sure they're having fun we want to make sure their environment that supports growth in the game growth is an individual you know sometime coaches can be a little harsh and can create some wounds i'll never forget i might my oldest son when he was five years old went to soccer practice and the coach jokingly said of course jokingly but the last soccer practice percent or went to because the coach said if you touch the ball if your hands are going to cut your fingers off and it didn't matter what we did we could not go to get him to go to soccer practice so kids are very very influenced by you know parents and teachers and coaches so it's it's essential that we're sending the right message to these kids so that they can enjoy the game and play the game just for the passion plain and not not always to win and not always to succeed and understand that they're not always going to succeed not that it's not good to succeed and play well and strive to win but we want to make sure that they feel good about themselves regardless of their performance and work with many professional athletes and amateur athletes of many different sports and the most difficult players to work with are those players that as children in high school and amateur players were put under a lot of pressure by their parents and if they didn't perform well it really really wound wounds the after the wounds wounds the person and i'm not it's the most difficult thing for a professional athlete to overcome it's that you know that old message that if i don't play well if i play to i've got to sustain it i don't know if i can be of sustained if i don't sustain it what's my father going to say it's those old tapes that they really really impede someone success on the athletic field so once the athlete at the young age is playing for the right reason if he can play for the right reason all the way up the parents allow that to happen and show their support and refrain from things that are detrimental to the performance of the player the a going to maintain that passion all the way through certainly when you get to the professional level it's going to easier to lose that passion because there's a lot of pressure and if an athlete doesn't understand how to deal with the pressure of performing my that passion can you can lose that passion rather quickly and lose the enjoyment of playing the game rather quickly and then just start playing for the money and because you're good at it and that makes life a lot tougher when you do it some just because you're good at it or just because you're making money at it as opposed to just fan oakland fan yeah you know i spent a lot of time going to join schemes and a's games and uncared list and characteristically growing up in the bay area i turned into a dodger fan because my father started  to help bill singer bill singers a pitcher back in their late seventy's for the dodgers and angels and somehow my father was contacted by somebody to try and help bill sr get into the stock and bond business which my father was and so we got to know bill see a well and would spend time down los angeles at his home and going to games going down to the field to give me a glove to go in the club out so you know you can imagine as a nine year old boy it was rather exciting for me to do those things and be around the game in that in the bay area but i would go up on my roof at night and listen of in scully and and there were certain nights that i could fall asleep and that the reception was good enough for whatever you know the weather was right there the radio waves are carried better especially for the tigers against i believe it was the yankees on monday night a bird you know doing his thing on the mound talk to the ball you know screw the dirt down you know what a joy he was to watch talk about passion for the get even and  may have a very colorful figure you know my my biggest complaint about baseball these days it's got to be bill and everybody looks the same and and certainly there is that the best way mechanically to do things i'm a huge proponent things like that some very unorthodox ways of doing things but these guys are very effective and down to you should do things in the most effective way because you really should do life but i miss those days that were colorful characters again spaceman nineteen years old and he you know he's a one thousand pound pick as well he wasn't a first round pick and he was just a guy who had fluids very very fluid delivery all the process is the point we're actually well for him which is what we teach systematically down there in our business hit so i find myself getting to balls that i ordinarily might not get to just because of being able to really depend on pretty good spot so he was great he had three really tremendous pitches had it had a good good fastball occur for that to happen and we're able to teach step process through drills and concepts that are taught on the field or on the golf course we do a lot of work in the fashion of golf we've got a major golf announcement coming here within the next week or two major league baseball with pitchers a lot of pitchers more hitters at the amateur level and we've had a lot of success in seven years that the average to get the numbers right here the average strike got to walk ratio of pitchers to work with his professional pitchers goes it's not a philosophy it's a we consider our program to be a mental training program based on neuro science and the specific process that must happen in the brain so we've done work with the chicago bulls portland trail blazers atlanta braves itself just describes the intellectual understanding of what it is we teach to get the full benefit while what we teach we work with athletes over skype or in person or clinics so it's a very very exciting very revolutionary program i can tell you left is there anything else i just want to know by number real quick ga seven eight one eight nine one zero six two one if somebody wants to talk to buddy seven eight one eight nine one zero six two one if somebody needs buddies information the zone although i do appreciate the plug about the red sox and my family's history there and you sound like you are working mostly with men and i've been working lately with the ol american girls professional baseball league which have you seen the movie a league of their own i have yes ok well they were the founders pretty much of women in baseball is there a different type of ural science that you would use if you had an opportunity to work with the gals who are part of a league of their own today don't see the program the mind body picture works the same for all athletes in all sports down here and there whether you're being or woman young boy or you girl it's all the same so all of our teaching i've done i've worked with many softball players get it started but first figure skater next week so we've got to cut it short i'm sorry but time is up bob but anybody would like to call me up at seven eight one eight nine one  six two one thirty minutes are up but i really help thank you for giving us this opportunity to talk to you and i thank donna and i thank this panel player here he's going to be the next shortstop