until i thought for part of the first part of the show we talked a little bit about watching the internet on your television set a little devices that are out now and then depending how fast or slow we get through that we can talk about a few other news stories but i know there's a lot of confusion with the different types of media boxes that are out there that you can use to watch internet on your television i think a lot of people to when they first hear i'm going to watch stuff that's on the internet on my t v they're thinking oh there's me this browser up and it's going to be the small little postage stamp sized thing or the audience may not be great and there are a lot of great boxes out there that you can use or demonstrate a couple of them more trivia today do you know why if netflix was started why did reed hastings start netflix why it was all all blockbuster's fault they charged him forty bucks late fee when he was wires plug one into your t v plug one into the wall put on your wireless network and you're off and running different services can be more of a issue to sync and stuff i know h b o go they give you unique code and have to go in and type it in so you have to kind of sync it to the service your cable bill was involved it wasn't so cumbersome that it took more than say ten minutes but you know depending on what channels you want to add can be more would be the i know what you did last summer but not the first one it would be like the third one of the series the fourth one the series those are on to get the first two yeah but there's some interesting stuff on there and i actually have a deal with seinfeld they have ten episodes incarnation of that was cobbled together and people kind of like that about it it has the most channels by far of all the boxes i think it's got close to like seven hundred different channels you can read something out of thousands and maybe in it i thought of that because it was just an ad o nce you sign up for a you can e mail us right now i thought the e mail said a thousand channels yeah ok and then there's also private channels people can create their own channels on it the the disadvantage is well so and so mentioned it's basically a little pop that  you connect your h m i up to your television set it has to attach the y five and it does come with a little remote which we have here a very simplified remote i like it's interface i think is very very nice the bad things about it right now no you tube that was on initially want to first started and then you know you tube went away and then google came out with their own t v box shortly after surprisingly so that's that's a definite conduit and you also can't get stuff really to the roku some of the models you have a u s b stick on that you can play stuff from it but for most people if you want to play something like off your computer there's actually a great  that allows you to stream stuff from your computer so if you have movies music whatever that's on your computer you can use the app to to to stream that to it that i personally i've always liked this box i think it's it's good because they have three different levels basically the difference between them is that the types of outputs on them the smallest one has an analog out on this well the high and one the expensive one has a game controller to play real simple games like angry birds think the third generation of them they also do have a stick itself that you can you can you can plug into it and these guys are sold about five million units in the united states in their five years since they they launched so  that's a good for those of you they're looking for a box to watch your stuff on t v course a lot of the services you gotta buy is the same with all of them netflix is paid or eight bucks a month amazon is eighty dollars a year are playing nice right now but the roku apple t v of course probably the most well known as the most successful as far as sales goes it's a lot more expensive it looks kind of s it the only advantage i can see to the apple t v of course you guys know my love of apple products but but if you have a ton of stuff and i tunes it makes hundred percent sense to buy this box  have you know if you don't have one of those if you're not in i tunes then there's probably not a whole lot of reason to to get it it does have the airplay feature which allows you to actually take whatever is on your device being it's expensive the most expensive of them all and i don't do a lot of rentals but apparently i tunes priest starts that money right away as far as late fees go happen right away on twenty four hours were a lot of these and i still can't get over this one i'm buying a cd it's cheaper to buy the cd and get the instant access to the m p three has been for me to buy the m p three s so you know it's it's still and a strange thing we've talked a number of times on the show about whoever can come out with something that's going to enable you to pull all of your stuff and gather is going to be able to win and we're going to kind of all fight with each other and prevent each other they lock each other out in essence google walks out apple apple walks out roku as apple still have you tube yes ok so i remember you tube used to be an app on your phone immediately and you could not get rid of it but you can no longer get a you  or at least it's not as common as it was and one of the updates like two years ago just disappeared thanks so i don't know if they still have the you tube i mean you can watch you tube right now and so on and so forth but most of the dedicated absolute what word off on a tangent here but i like the google play upload feature grappler twenty thousand songs that was most of my music selection probably s going to end up with the amazon music selection recently which is twenty five dollars for the year which is not bad but theirs is matching songs so if i find a song it finds a song in my library it matches something in their library gives me clout access to that that's not a bad idea that they made for me that pushes me toward that now when i don't know if it's going to have the ability to do is connect to music that essentially isn't out there for example brian probably gave me a cd of his best one for me whatever and it really does come down to what are you using what services are you using or interested in using because unfortunately none of these boxes do everything as we just mentioned you know a number of them don't have google  this year because it came out from google thirty five dollars for like thirty five dollars that's definitely worth no matter what it does or doesn't do it's worth it if they're very excited because they see of this thing just plugs in problem is google play movies and music and the interesting feature that i think was intriguing to a lot of people was the ability for to cast stuff again like apple apple t v already those with the mirroring of things the chrome cast does allow you to mirror what's on your or your screen so for instance and going out on a limb here trusting that the says it's ready to but what this does is it allows you to go around the sort of the services and they don't offer so you can go to hulu online something to watch on t v and that's what's strange to woo hoo plus there's some stuff you can watch on who goes online and then there's stuff that you can watch laws that you pay for not always the same and again you watch for free on your screen so if you can watch it then you can watch it here but again this part is this part is in beta so it's not  exactly so this will take in essence you're casting from your your laptop to the screen so it could in essence get all the other services that you have always you can normally access them through a normal internet source but they also want to have that functionality function basically when you can do everything mostly like if you have items on your laptop and you're playing songs on your computer can you cas that to your t v which will then played in your house like people might want to do and theoretically it should work i'm not saying it's something i thought would go the other way i really thought that there'd be a television producer that had computer access with it i mean my my laptop computer for example if you take the devices on here and instead of this screen this hooked up to a computer instead that seemed to be the direction that i would it was assuming would go  especially with television sort of reaching that maximum capability now i mean you can get pretty decent sized television screens for two hundred two hundred fifty dollars thrown have three hundred bucks on that i'm willing to pay for the device that can keep upgrading you know the computer keyboard screen that goes underneath it something that's going to be to be logical even a wireless one for i p x one hundred fifty bucks for that but google seems to have gotten around well and what and what's interesting about this little guy is that works  actually your machine is sending out like a second screen in essence and it is telling it hey this is this is what i'm doing what this does and what's unique about the chrome cast and theoretically result theory makes it work better or better quality is the fact that when you tell it to do something this is its own little browser in here so it's actually connecting to your interests and doing it for you now the huge drawbacks for people with with h b o go of all been added and then there's other services they're going to be at and i think the big drawback for people with this is you have to have a device to control this thing and what's cool about is you can use your phone you can use your laptop whatever your desktop computer and you can control this thing and tell it what you want to do the bad thing is if you don't have now your phone your phone dies your tablet does not come with a remote of its own no remote at all so you have to control it like you said via a laptop your phone something automatically the false trades absence all i did was there's a little button a little icon on here and it would be on the desktop it's also on if you go to you tube app on your phone a little icon appears next to the full screen that's a little icon and allows you to then choose and if you have multiples of whatever in the house you say i want to send it to this t v or this so this is not exactly what's on your screen right now right this is my screen is this so you have like the actual youtube screen and the just you have a kind of a what this photo screen option right away right and then what's cool about that is you can do other stuff and you can be playing videos what's nice too is that there is a feature because it's tied to your only said that they're coming out with some form set top box yet i don't believe there's been any real details on what they're going to to offer of course the amazon instant you can watch stuff right now on a through all of this is again i'm staying back five or six steps i didn't i don't know where exactly it's going to go but something like an instinct in streaming service that i have available on another device something like we for example when i was watching my netflix streaming and amazon stuff on there that's easy to set that through so that's something they won't be in that market seems like they'll pay to keep that around there that but most people have something like that that can still yeah i mean that's just kind of the one that will probably be everywhere always because they want as many subscribers possible but i mean if it became if if netflix netflix seems to be the major the biggest player if they want roku only or something like that then you could kind of build i mean amazon taking back its amazon stuff they really does it change anything i don't know i think amazon is is competitive enough in this to make that change i think amazon and clicks can set that up i mean netflix is completely devoted to this and was able to save themselves when really two years ago we were talking about netflix being a major player we all get a laugh that each other but the fact that they helped themselves survive was great but yeah i think it could be something i think they could have an opera option to dictate what happens next well and right now i mean you look at the there's a kindle app on just about everything right now audible apps on his phone everything and they're smart enough to say and that's what the strange about to me it's a it was a free service tech understand something but i would think amazon once they're making more money off of you being an amazon instant subscriber than they are in selling you a kindle i mean the actual box so i would think they want as many subscribers as possible so they want to have it available in a perfect world you would think that that's that's what would  happen that they would make it available on as many boxes they can but for some reason these companies i don't imagine that want to get more money in the after you purchase the device realm you know selling an x box one or a playstation four they're not making money on that they need to sell you all the other things the games the controllers the accessories same thing with kindle kindle need you to buy books given to you to buy apps kindle need you to pay for services you know you bought  that's great but how much money do they really make when they slash the prices not of you know fifty dollars offer nothing for the holiday season they want thirty nine that you know they can't make it after research in developing the cancer making much you know i love the fact though that kindle is almost slaughtered their competitors i mean the milk is all but to dead and it's the last real option out there and i think for most you know comparing devices are really critiques of them pretty much everybody with the original question of how well did i have never seen him not those terrible well i i was i remember that so many scenes from that movie you remember the deuce but it was so so self classic but it's from the sixty's so when you watch it you go ok from the sixty's you know the eighty's seems to have gone back to be exceptionally awful movies there's some there's some great stuff there everyone going to any kind of