and mature adult is the key word here mature it all means that if you stopped using drugs and alcohol your drug and alcohol abuse is mature or if your disability would depend upon the cessation of the substance abuse in this case the disability would not and did not seize upon cessation you know it it talks about if somebody is using it's difficult to tell whether or not they would get better but when they stop then it's a little easier and if actually found that she's been clean and sober since one thousand nine hundred ninety one of his findings was that up until she became clean and sober that substance abuse was a material factor and that after she became clean and who was her treating physician filled out an assessment which says that she is not all right and she has severe anxiety and personality problems which would preclude employment that's consistent with all the other evidence dr rast injure is that she was disabled because she can't get along with people dr perry says that she has organic damage and there's a poor prognosis she's only able to relate effectively in an appropriate manner in social socially appropriate manner dr greter says that she's disabled due to anxiety and medical problems as opposed least it's kind of relaxing the reason she didn't want to get a job until or sons had completed the summer camp thing was because she didn't have the coping ability to cope with that at the same time that she was doing a job but i would also point out that the only type of job her doctors were even contemplating at that time was part time sheltered work they didn't suggest she could jump right into full time and shelter work they said we want to try out important charm sheltered workshop to torah work and she was excited about it she was psyched about it but she said ok i've got things going on in my life i can't deal with that and these are the things at the same time almost all of us you know we could we could deal with that  she can't she's got this debilitating to the bottom line here if the court is not convinced that she's just the bottom line and i think from a legal standpoint is that the sale jerry committed legal to me means that he's considered all the evidence well if he's considered all the evidence he's considered the stuff that you've read to our attention he simply didn't write it or encyclopedic description of what he did but your honor it was so can to do now it was the agency required agency requires that they address it doesn't you know the agency doesn't use the term of our clear and convincing reasons or for this thing they say that he must forth certain articulation requirements but but the what the conclusion i was trying to reach here is if the court is also the burden of proof is on the claimant then she's not entitled to benefits congress said so and there's nothing the agency can do through sub regular tory guidance that is that the teletype to change what congress has directed the agency to do essentially the teletype conversations within the agency we have the law we have regulations those are subject to notice and public comment when the agency sends out some internal a conversation between components that is not subject to public notice and comment that is not regulatory level law making or rule making so we expect he'll g s to abide rule making which the courts would review but no one ever gets to say you know agency i don't think that's the meaning of congress before we finally get to court so the regulations in this case and the standard your honor comes from four  point one five three five twenty c f r and that is the key factor is would we find you disabled if you stop using in this case prior to nine hundred ninety nine the physicians essentially said the show that if she had stopped she would not she would still be disabled the medical evidence at the time is not something that we can easily separate out with the phrase clear and convincing evidence which is the typical civil law standard which is close to beyond a reasonable doubt and then the in the evelyn case if i remember correctly it was recalled in the decision was reissued stating clear and convincing reasons supported by substantial evidence of the standards never changed its less than preponderance more than a scintilla after nine hundred ninety nine dr crossan in two thousand and one dr cross and looked at the medical evidence after ninety nine and opined limitations which the l j found reliable and based on his review of the record  were those in the residual functional capacity finding it accommodates for moderate limitations that remain the vocational expert testified that with those moderate limitations she could bring turn to our past relevant work in