internet issues at the prison for example inform berg the warden at the federal prison was i had the discretion to decide if it was the person who decided what could or couldn't come in a terms of publication and i think that would be appropriate likewise with litigation the attorney general must not have a lot to do these days i wouldn't argue that your honor however i would think that this particular case dealt with one prison and one point and one policy the injunction however w well under the circumstances because this injunction covers every prison i think we're going back to the situation of the one is actually being overly broad for all of t d c i think that prisons the fact that perhaps as the internet evolves there may be certain websites that are absolutely that don't have a security problem and it may be that they're there becomes more and more information on the internet that is not otherwise available elsewhere those things prisoners don't have any access to computers so we're just talking about hard copies of things yes and i mean so you can make a hard copy of anything in the world but because you make a hard copy of something that comes off the internet  is really i don't see the increased security concerns over other hard copies of things it is easier to manipulate something off the internet that you're downloading off the internet then if you go and copied out of say the encyclopedia brittanica it's and they can talk about their parents and their brothers and sisters and that can all be a code for something it could be but it's going to be harder to hide something it takes a lot more effort to hand write a ten page letter that you're trying to split five words in ok and to download it so i factual matter and you know you presented all this stuff to the court apparently the district court didn't buy that you had made any factual case that there was any security problem well certainly this record intervention there's and there's no  that said again the district court was relying on another gentry transcript from one thousand nine hundred nine and in a similar case it was a state he's proceeding up until march county and i would ignite here complaining that you didn't get an there was not an indication by the district court that it was going to be a statewide injunction no evidence was presented  the district court did ask whether further evidence wanted to be presented at that point however there were again there was no indication that this was going to be an injunction against all all the other present including present that didn't have any policy banning internet material so i would could change the language of the end of the judgment or the injunction in terms of the binding effect on the prison system but i think any reasonable reading of the order would be completely inconsistent with the notion that the judge was prohibiting the pages and have the messages inserted in fact it would be easier i believe to take a document on a word processing system and insert such text and it would be to insert that into a document that's on the internet and then print it directly from the internet the department has never been able to explain how someone actually could insert a message into a into a web page and then print that out now it is true that you can download documents from the internet  were processing document and then insert text into that but that's no different from any other document letter article anything that somebody may submit and in fact to demonstrate your rationality of this regulation a document were downloaded from the internet as a microsoft word document for example in text inserted there'd be no way to know that that document was downloaded from the internet p d f files the come down off the internet don't have any identifying marks on them it would show that they are from the internet so that the regulation simply doesn't address that kind of danger that the president was referring to here and i think the district court correctly concluded that they they just not been able to articulate any way in which that could actually happen or any way in which that risk is any greater with these kind of materials as opposed to other kind of materials and then to said that however the department is not attempting to defend this regulation on any basis that would suggest that there are different considerations and different presidents throughout the state the arguments have all been based simply on the nature of internet mail or internet internet generated materials that may be included in mail and volume concerns none of which would be particular to any particular prison within the system and furthermore after the judgment was entered the department did file a motion to alter or amend the judgment and in that motion after they were on notice of the scope of the cause of the court's judgment and injunction there was no indication and even today more likely to be constitutional at another prison within the state and then the council this morning is referred to the need to be able to take account of the evolving circumstances and to fashion a policy injunction allows them to fashion a policy so long as they do it within the scope of the injunction and don't to bridge the terms of the injunction if there are legitimate content issues with respect to material regulation are unfounded and we believe the spirit court was correct or the district court was correct in finding that it was arbitrary and unconstitutional we are to be affirm i would only add that i think counsel makes the point that makes the point for cities about the need for the flexibility to be able to adjust its policies he referred to various internet sites that are very difficult to manipulate or to a p d f document  difficult to manipulate as opposed to downloading and and possibly manipulating something that's exactly the sort of situation that should be able to fashion a policy to say this kind of material is perhaps acceptable and i turner down to the most recent of which in case c d c in prison officials are the best ones to be able to address those concerns and and they're the ones that need to do their job with regard to what goes into and out of prison so i'm