the last one at a children's birthday party at a tree almost tore apart other dog in front of the six year old so that was one of the neighbors mine was the first attack that i know of on christmas day so we need to look at what is the definition of a public nuisance and how to fund revenues of eleven million one hundred thirty one five hundred six one thousand dollars question expenses it ten million five hundred ninety seven six hundred thirteen thousand dollars and this year is  i have one is not in so it's not relevant directly to the budget but there was one thing i was interested in which came across way e mail which was you have a study looking at travel times to drop off centers around it and really do just elaborate on that a consolidating areas more work carriers so that instead of having one street is served by five different carriers and where did that did that just become too complicated to do or what happened to th part of the puzzle was the government what is starting to crack down do with a little pressure on environment they initiated me fans about five years ago five years ago which was the initial salvo to we're going to do things differently stopped and even cycling from hobby into china for much that i think is in reaction to retaliation to the rise of the policies happening in washington the weird effects us here is that where we used to be getting if there's an investment made in this country by the remaining mills we are seeing not one company has made two billion dollar investment in the united states in the next two years and that as that becomes successful keeping peace with some of the technology and we can no longer do so we need to not only improve our container starting him billy which just makes sense when i was high quality as possible quality is king he always has been you know his role in this is even more references for this project so what we did was we requested additional references for the past two years from both the low bidder and secondly what this allows us to do was actually see all contractors were doing over the past two years and whether or not it was comparable to the work that we had been out for news or upon review of that there were a few with with a lot of backup information so i like that's my opinion i'm sure they're going to be with you the amount that we receive this time certainly significantly more than we typically do this is a little bit of a different scenario and i appreciate be a look i'm here with a very informed opinion yes i appreciated all the efforts of the staff but one of the other considerations is the location of this project is on main street and it is gay highly traveled high impact stream there will be a lot of lane constructions and modifications this is not some place to you to decide to maybe take a chance on you know five corners very well you know that's good so what we did is we put together a contract here we had it looked at by all the legal and we are now on to that amendment to the open burning in of course the ordinance and i will since this is on the agenda and i had invited members of the public to speak earlier about something that was not on the agenda but now it received throughout the village staff took a good look at our current board and sat down with the fire chief a lot of times when we do get a complaint or people see smoke just white rising up they call the fire department depends on what is being called and they will go out there and on our ordinance was not as complete as one would hope and so when you are burning leaves or brush or things like that we we all wanted to update the ordinance so you'll see the new language also we wanted to install some teeth in the fines because when we do have to set a fire truck out to a present to a property it is going to cost the taxpayers several hundred dollars for that truck to leave the station come out to the call find out what's going on extinguish it if they have to but more times than not it's on private property and it's just somebody trying to burn something and it is becoming a nuisance so we feel that the through the fir g for myself that this language would be sufficient for us to enforce the burning and impose fines now i have in my conversations i don't actually want to find anybody i'd rather get compliance and i would rather people be good neighbors be considerate of what they're doing but failing not we would have to find people to get their attention and that's why you see of the f schedule the way it is again taking how much time we have to pay our patriarchal firefighters to come out some assess the situation come back etc that's why you see what you have before ok i will add that i was with in one of those meetings with with evan and critic of oreo and i think i'm confused because i thought we were going to say burning brush leads pine needles trash burning of materials cannot create a nuisance ok so if anybody is actually burned a piece of wet wood it brings out a lot of smoke that can create a nuisance so you're technically you're allowed to burn wo but not create a nuisance and so when you have high winds or whatever or or the wind is blowing into your neighbor's window while technically illegal to burn wood you cannot create a nuisance while doing so more times than not you will be told to stop or understand where the wind is blowing the beach are doing but sometimes when you just don't want to change habits that's where the fight and you can see the first offense as a warning which is zero the other thing we just we just heard from the chicken and solid waste district and we heard about the investment that's made  drop off centers and one of the big one of their big costs is collecting brush and leaves and pine needles from residents particularly in areas that can't but they can be burned and so will the fire department when they go in they see people who are burning illegally because they fire department who are called out will determine if it's a violation of the ordinance so if they feel when they go out there they're seeing smoke coming out of there be wafted into the residen might i think just about any definition that's a nuisance so it's not really complaining it's been normal so sometimes that the fire pit where they get a fireplace i think of it well contain item that you have purchased a fire is designed to be put in this not a hole in the ground that might be clear with you know since don't surround it so i wonder if putting in it it is a fire place what you're putting in and that is creating a nuisance we don't allow leaves now are overlooking out and we're trying to tell people what you can and can't do it is not the  it's what's been put in it and i'm woah i feel for you ma'am we cannot be everywhere every time if you call we will calm i would start with the police they're all oh there are ability to get there i quicker with those types of things instead of you know depending on what happens with the fire truck we may have to wait a few extra minutes for the paid on call they get there it takes usually four or five firefighters the truck leave the yard versus you know and so does the virgin guys by it's a true sometimes it depends on where they're going to just call the police who were not the far away but if we if it dies down then it's it's since the period of nuisance is if he starts the fire if by the time we get there it has the nuisance part of the smoking part has died down you know we can deal with what we see and what is going on and we will try i think our police and our fire know what's going on and we'll be able to deal with people who are violating the ordinance is not one hundred percent i don't know better than we were able to do before and i appreciate the difficulty of writing in the record that for for anything really we want people to enjoy their yards we want them concerning because burning of materials can create in you since and i think what i just heard him say is you're trying to you allow disallow here so my humble request would be to have a change cannot you shall not or may not because those are interim attorney and say hey we have a suggestion does this work for you because i don't know when the point is a look at the comment period of the answer is that's what the attorney told us because again this is an interim attorney who i believe is new to this ordinance as much as we all then we're it were a month or two behind because i think we'd like to just get this on the books and so what i will check with the village attorney this week and we'll know by our next meeting will know  sewers that leads from a bathroom so nor the pipe we have some tree roots that are pretty much the culprit that along with what is being flushed down the toilet in that particular bathroom sometimes it's paper dolls sometimes it's other products so in docking with rick and the public works gentleman they flush the lines they are doing some cutting through that line itself usually they do it every couple years apparently we have a tree that is decided to go a little more aggressive on us so we're going to do a little bit more often we're also looking at  the elimination of paper products in those washrooms to a hand dryer several thousand dollars to be able to do something like that but if all whole lot less expensive sewer backup multiple times we do get some you know whether it's kids or other people that are doing this but you know it also turns out you can have cameras in bathrooms so  it didn't really rise to certain things but we will we will look at it we will we will when the expense comes we will find it it's the appropriate thing to do it's a service local issue and  i would say that this not only the employees but mainly the patrons of the library would like a clean non non fall bathroom every couple years in our conversation last week we said let's let's ramp that up more often and get that on an annual basis and so as a matter of fact one of the things we're looking at is how we're going to do that at all of our public buildings and how we're going to start looking at me and schedules in all the buildings and who is looking after those things that do not in my opinion not appropriate to have librarians thinking about building maidens nor assistant managers our managers we've we've got our minds on other things and there's we have some really good talent both in the down in village who can think of these things and put it on schedule the only thing i just might my two cents about this is that i don't normally say this but if if there's two possible solutions of doing the most if i remember my conversation with rick jones parts of this line go under the corner of the buildings so yeah removing this and replacing that line is not going to be economical and that's why we're going to do this this way for a while and see how it plays if in fact it doesn't if it gets worse we are going to have to address it further but right now that's why i was mentioning last night's water main shut off that occurred right outside the one main break which was very interesting to have a public meeting where we had to notice the public too if they wish to use the restrooms to do so before eight thirty because our water was going to get shut off but the reason for that was a really great piece of planning and coordination with a village in the town and staff of the issue that was at hand which is a twelve inch water main and a six inch tap i'm so we had to do it twelve inch valve and a six inch about a replacement right at the water ma the twelve inch goes around dunsmore since you guys all know your flood from this last winter was around more and heads out over to the condos that are over there you also have a doctor's office that is served by that line as well as the town hall and several other homes and businesses running there not the high school which is great so we're thinking oh no we don't want  close down a doctor's office in the middle of the day on which would be convenient for us but if you've ever had a doctor's appointment that took two months to schedule and now you're not available that's not a good customer service thing and so we figured ok if we can shut it off starting at about eight o'clock get the word out then kids and parents can have dinner thinking get all those showers and stuff done and then we can be shut off with  goal of getting turned on by five six in the morning it took that long the water was restored right around five thirty six in the morning so we're trying to deal with darkness it's a with water and stuff but the guy is a public worst a great job the communication was pretty darn good this time i did check with the office we've got four phone calls  shannon from g i has to be able to give a good map the guys went door to door with flyers that we worked with the love of the medical center over there it was a nice clean team effort so i was encouraged to see that on george i don't know the price so we've got some other things you know we talked about where we're getting ready for certain i'm coming meetings we're always meeting meeting meeting things of that nature i do have a lunch meeting scheduled with global foundries i'm trying to do i have a more of a  working relationship with them i did bump into them at the chamber of commerce meeting about a week or so ago and i don't know what the relationship was with m and the village but global some of their their new management staff really seem like they want an engagement with the village in the town and so they were encouraged when i asked them to have a meeting he said to me yes and mediately sometimes when people say that you can't get a meeting for four months i'll be here working seven days or less which is kind of nice one of the things that they and can imagine goebbels electrical bill they pay about thirty six million dollars a year in electrical yes so any any that they can shave off the electrical price is millions of dollars revision  was talking about attracting and retaining talent and both of whom were talking about workforce housing the workforce affordable housing and so home some mobility is for the county not just villages or down to consider you know like most of us don't know we're already how expensive it is to live in jindo and county and what it is that is actually doing is it is pushing the workforce for their  driving further distances and hurting recruiting and retention so they they spoke up on that and when we mention what is going on not only in the village but the town they are encouraged that we at least understand that you know not everybody wants to live in a two thousand square foot home that they really can afford to live in a two thousand square foot home or say a thirteen hundred square foot apartment but what is being built in and around this looking to link up with him soon but they did they actually did a very smart thing several years ago there at the u s military was one of the main clients of they  wade into other militaries around the world and when the u s did it sequester ration and other things where they also cut back and didn't pay vendors on a timely basis their ability to have other contracts  really save their bacon their growing they were look they are a canadian firm that came down here they love it here but they need to compete in the world not just in the northeast judge i did get something this week i did get a hold of the chief him and i are going to be meeting about on this section to be looked at and beefed up for dogs and other things yes but one of the things we're not looking forward to a time like this would be crazy is that issue because it is not going to be an easy issue that i could to agree with you more i would hope that and i just think that if i've been here two months and need a little more time to get my way around me but i can see the need to have some guidance in these areas there's plenty of meetings and you know i read writer and i were at the same meeting irene two weeks ago same issue you know i'm on the housing and what other communities are doing and you know there's just there's not much money in it right you know from from other sources but whatever little dent you could make is important i know that the villages accessory structure  allowance for homes is helping not only this issue but out in people stay in their homes and have been you know be affordable so when i do think i was in the vision in the future with that with the right mission and  the right guidance which would be a good thing for not only the village and the town together governments of i want to know which one one meeting it's who gets in that matters that report but i want to highlight it it's a it's a joint meeting with the planning commission and the trustees and i had asked a while back  why developers don't like it and i think it's but i think it's important for us to know it so that's she's going to lead off the joint discussion between us and his leadership and that's on thursday you're not going to be here laurence you are going to be select board for two days earlier so you know even though i would say that it is part of whatever the commission is doing a study on what we currently have in our communities their status is is important because while i was looking for a new house i did go into several structures with or without my manager and i don't i don't know if i actually can  ever do that but i saw some places that i would say were on the edge of standard or sub standard so you owe me and what they were charging for runs so you cou nature i would want a housing commission or or some group to give us an assessment of how many units we have and the density and what's going on before taking on a you know a mission that may not provide what we think it's going to provide and i want to make sure that when i get my head around certain things i know what the issues are and how to look at how other people are addressing it  right and it's also elderly people with it with the baby boom generation aging in getting out there's there's a you said really big sister apartment option we have here in the village people take advantage of that is as you say of the age housing phenomenon is the senior act the people that are living in these larger homes of the three hundred three fifty thousand dollar variety are actually in competition with younger first time home buyers not only does your business community wanted your residents wanted on people you know while i was in the beautiful communities that they live in to be you know affordable and say ok can i have five minutes to go on a rant please because i just got my water bill and i noticed that nowhere on the water bill is there an option to pay my water bill in person and look at all anymore and i don't remember i thought where we left this that wasn't going to happen and so i don't mean to blindside i don't mean to break something but i want to mention this i do want to mention this the need to try to bring people into the village center if we are going to say we're saying we're trying to redevelop the village center and one of the golden rules if you don't shut down your post offices you don't shocked you whatever existing government entities you have in your little downtowns or bill and centers you keep them open because you don't know i'll bet there are probably several hundred or so people that that traditionally have come into this building to pay their water it you know give the train station brings in a few hundred people you know over the course of a few weeks every other little thing you do brings in several dozen people here other people there i don't dan and i just don't understand i don't understand why a someone can't come in here some who wants to go to the library and go to mark owen and then pop into the village office and pay their bill they are now going to say that's not an option anymore right or agree with you and i've been i don't understand why someone it's was patty will know it's we advertise it and we interview people and i think we're good and consent agenda