who bring this meeting to order this is the council's comedian budget and frantz this is our regular meeting dated september one two thousand and sixteen president for today's meeting is program you have received from mr bossie communication sixteen to us one six seven it has a past and a bill for an ordinance proposal amending the budget two thousand and aging in the amount of one point zero five three zero eight one million dollars mr borrows you have any opening comments you wish to share with the committee please good morning chair just briefly and to many members  the request this morning is to increase the amount of grant revenue we are expecting from the state of hawaii for the care program you can see they receive we had estimated a million dollars and they received them a million and fifty three if for the budget office is concerned that's a significant increase anything over twenty five thousand dollars we're going to bring down the council as an amendment to the actual budget ordinance and it's just note on the letter from the state this is a two year agreement and so they'll begin to receive an additional one million fifty three thousand dollars next year as well so look forward to that and it will be in there for eighteen proposed budget correctly so  care began in one thousand nine hundred nine and has been funded both through the governor's base budget and supplemental at its commitment to care services including adult daycare transportation homemaker chore personal care attendant and home delivered meals and once again the purpose of this budget ordinance instead is to allow them all we county office on aging to accept an additional fifty three thousand dollars we are receiving more than it allocated than we anticipated and the amount basically remains the same but it kind of changes year to year depending on the governor's subsequent releases and the acceptance of these funds will allow our office on aging to provide direct services  eligible for home and continue community based services and really enable frail seniors to live independently in the community for as long as possible norma circle from our office on eating is here to answer any questions as well thank you so much very excited to hear they were getting a little more money the point of care is probably one of the most important programs for seniors so this is good thank you thank you mr coach and no questions thank you the scribble i have no questions but i'd like to comment on the state being very generous in supporting our could put a care and thank you for the office of aging for the work that you do thank you  of like well we are pleased that the county has been considered for this increase and of course we expect it to be for me to use use it to our communities benefits members one less opportunity for questions if not the chair is open to emotion we're going to have a great meeting it's going to go faster so the motion is to pass the bill pulls in total bill for the ordinance amending fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget for the county of always pertains to for my mom on the mainland in several different states finding that this what we do here in maui county far exceeds anybody else as far as i can tell even talking with folks at neko so i'm very very pleased that you guys provide that that we as a county provide that and you guys oversee it and that the state recognizes that it's a good program probably the best in the nation thank you thank you anyone else w two thousand and seventeen budget this is from the department of police subjugating those theat the nine one one wireless commission we are in receipt from mr bosler communication sixteen dish one six six amount is to be creased two by three hundred forty nine thousand and that the state board of improving allocation amount of two point five m receiving in grant revenue so we can appropriate and spend the money that has been allocated to us from the states the nine one one wireless commission the we do have assistant chief of is a board which i actually sit on and which provides funds for peace apps throughout the state too for maintenance for upgrades for training so we're very happy to receive an additional funding for maintenance that continues to rise as we speak in costs and actually what we're doing is the keep the station has a  site what we want to do a secondary site in case we have to put down the well look at one or something happens to the y local police station dispatched a center we can automatically basically flip flip a switch and have the other one in up and operational thank you she kept and we also appreciate your presence do you have any comments you would like to share at this point in time thank you members any questions for representatives from the police the part man will also see we have additional support in the chamber so  gentlemen i notice you have set up a video component is this something you wish the committee to review mr chair is nearby that is for the next item regarding the forfeiture program ok got it thank you for that so we don't look at the screen at this point in time that she flicked breaker the previous item this was requested or a very pleasant increase so it's but very much needed in the world we live in today because of the technology that continues to evolve each and every year still a lot of that has to do with the changes and in the increases in cost and is this something that within your department mr project who works with the rest of the communication projects he comes before this committee for it's partially connected his is more the radio side this is more of the piece up again piece actually explained is a public safety answering point so all calls that come to the nine one one center will come to that one specific site so there are currently five p c apps in the state again we are very please increases in the program so i'm sure you would make great use of this three hundred and forty nine thousand dollars chief i'm open to a motion to move and programs department of police state the nine one wireless commission probably enough county communication sixteen this one six six allow his staff and to work with cooperation changes so moved thank you second the motion by mr white seconded by mr collins members any further discussion on the motion before you every known only thank you for that made there were he to be f ninety nine like that so they restrict what we can use the money for and we have a pot of money and generally we spend around one hundred thousand this piece of equipment here is one hundred fifty thousand dollars so i'm increasing the forfeiture gran revenue limit to two hundred thousand dollars so that they can still spend about fifty thousand dollars more without having to come back to council should the need arise for equipment or whatever the allowable purchases are so we have here mr tony earls he is the police evidence question list to discuss this piece of equipment they were purchasing and we have a little short video as well so have mr earles have his opening  as part of our crime scene investigation tasked with the responsibility of bringing the crime scene to the jury to the court whether it's the jury or the judge but bringing the crime scene to the court  traditionally you know that we've been using photography to document crime scenes of course for many many many years but i would like to show you a video of this technology that will bring the maui police department into the twenty first century laser capturing images and just maybe capturing a killer this is not a video game it's a murder scene rendered in history deemed by a revolutionary scanner and essentially this brings the entire crime scene then analysts create a three d composite you can walk through the scanner itself millions and millions of points about it scares and then it takes two hundred sixty photographs so it photographs are to those points a crime scene photography has been around for more than a century capturing a moment in time and preserving the scene as it was just moments after the crime was committed that was then this is a nap the it is not a two dimensional photograph but a three d virtual crime scene investigators can leap into and walk around and they can go over here by the front door to see what the killer saw when he or she walked inside the house this is an actual cold case crime scene they can go down here look at the lower level where the body was found downstairs they can even see what witnesses saw from their perspective they can walk up stairs to see what was going on up there at the time of the crime this a a whole new dimension to a crime scene investigation there is only one witness to this crime is she walked in and solve her husband was shot in this now gives us her perspective of what she saw that day fog was found here on the top steps leading down to the basement and you're seeing the three d rendering at the witnesses hide investigators are able to test her claim she saw the body while walking into the kitchen and they need to know from the top of th stairwell if you are able to see a body that was laying on this back stairwell but also as good a core of presentations where we can show it in front of a jury and the jury can actually walk through the scene and see it as we saw in the ohio bureau of criminal investigation is getting five of these scanners b c i special agent brian why do says the device is a virtual tape measure making precise measurements without going back to the scene it can even track a bullet back to the point where it was fired  have imagined when a man's life ended here in nine hundred eighty seven that's pretty cool stuff right by next month all five scanners will ok thank you again we are trying to bring the technology to work for us of course there are many benefits of bringing that technology into the courtroom and being able to answer questions that jurors have is very key sometimes we don't have a photograph that ma that one image that would have been the answer to their question this covers all three hundred sixty degrees of the crime scene also timesaving this is going to help us to cut the time that we're at a scene which is very important because for example the shooting we had gives me the scene we had here at the food land almost six months ago we were there starting around six o'clock p m we worked until one in the morning documenting that crime scene that was  the stabbing scene so you can imagine this only takes about two and a half minutes per scan so we can cut that down to almost one hour at the crime scene so thank you for your consideration environments and situations yes or mr chair thank you actually these will reach up to three hundred yards away so it is very functional in an outdoor crime scene so potentially and susan what's in the paper regarding the current murder trial in circuit court this is scanner could have been used by the department for those old door exterior requirements also  similar to this and we could use in traffic situations you know we're still you know affected by closures for three four hours yes ma'am and as a matter of fact our traffic section has this exact same technology that they use to minimize the time that the road has to be closed again unfortunately we're not able to utilize that piece of equipment because it was purchased through a department of transportation grant and there are restrictions it has to involve traffic and highway use to speed up the traffic being stopped basically so we cannot just use it in regular crime scenes i see so  quit man and even though we have it we still have these long road closures i'm trying to find a way to get rid of that because it's a real nightmare is there something better that we could we could get you know ma'am from and we also assist the traffic section by you whenever there photographer is off island we will actually go and help them take photographs the basic right and again i don't want to speak for traffic but all i can say is from a personal standpoint when i'm having to respond to the poly being closed it's frustrating for me as well because the traffic is already backed up by the time i get notified yes and so it just takes time to get everyone there to make sure that we document everything exactly we're not doing it because we like to impose problems and inconvenience on our citizens and our visitors but every traffic fatality is going to have some type of litigation and we it is our responsibility to document those scenes thoroughly yes ma'am ok i guess what you see is what you get thank you very much i do know everybody's trying the best they can but you know hoping for that silver bullet because it's really a problem for if you get stuck in it if it happened to me for the first time this year i got there at night and i was there and for two or three hours and it really brought it home to me how inconvenient it is for everybody but you know everybody doing the best they can thank you yes ma'am and all i can say is believe me i've been approached by frustrated drivers while i'm out there taking photographs and they from their standpoint they view it as being a very simple answer or just move the truck well that's not the point the point is to document the scene as it is because it's our responsibility to present that evidence in court and again think about it if it were your loved one who got killed would you want to a very thorough investigation restrictions on use of the propose purchase of the scanner with the forfeit your phones and no sir it's a matter of fact it's going to be a great compliment because every year these units have to be sent back to the manufacturer for calibration take care of your maintenance requirements for this equipment as far as i'm aware yes like because this would be my concern is continued maintenance requirements can i just interject the proposed what is your life's lifecycle for this proposed equipment five years oh ten to fifteen years yes or but at the annual maintenance agreement is around eight thousand dollars to recalibrate to recalibrate clean it make sure it's functioning properly and that needs to be sent to you ship when it's on the mainland yes but it has actually originated as a swiss company will i go was one of the first to manufacture cameras digital cameras back it was like a camera back in the early echnology my question is something mr boss said the forfeiture there are funs in the forfeiture that you kind of hang on to until we need them and then you have us  we are aware department is required to use forfeiture funds and dispose if it uses only that is authorized he's cannot use it for any general purpose he must meet the parameters of f expenditures yet and mr chair from the parameters of the discussions we've had before and on for future funds depending on which agencies were involved in that  question is if we get so much that i'm assuming you get it all throughout the year so at the end when our budget comes up you can say well we anticipate this much in forfeiture funds could present the total balance available in forfeiture funds for the council to approve right now they have about two hundred eighty three thousand so this this purchase is and to be more than half of what there balance available is the you know there's a there's a balance in an understanding to how much abilities that you want to provide to the police department to purchase this type of equipment other things that are allowed in the forfeiture program so i'm comfortable with a balance of you know showing the presentation of what we're providing pervading you know they can ability and transparency of what we're doing so that's why i haven't and again your chair is confident with the parameters set on the department what it can be utilized for and as a captain stated it depends on the case the jurisdictions involved and then finally  dispersement to all agencies that participate in what would be their percentages for you you know it depends if only f b i in most police department is sr police departments on the other counties in a massive sting included our two weeks of training are provided they will actually send a trainer here and they will actually it's all included in the price so we will be able to train at approximately eight people to utilize  here so are is there additional equipment that's going to be required for the judiciary to i guess utilize this type of technology and also for the prosecutor office to we need to buy additional equipment for them to present a foundation i don't know those are two questions i have so you have great technology that's great for the investigative  field but then is the judiciary up to speed is the prosecutor's office up to speed yes and thank you very much for that question great question so yes this program that is associated with this data that is collect is a very specialized program however there is a component that is included in this price that allows us to create what's called a fly through of the scene we can take that on a flash drive and put it on any computer and it shows in the courtroom for example because in the courtroom they have giant televisions like this so it's absolutely no additional cost to prosecutors or the courts that we could use for our intersections have nothing no knowledge of i don't think the quality of those cameras is used for being able to see fine details i think that it's mainly for light traffic closing that kind of thing at least that's my understanding from watching the traffic in honolulu every morning on the news i couldn't tell you what their person driving a white car is wearing by looking at that camera but i can tell you the cars are moving so i can't i'm not really a kennicott and i was just thinking about it because we members any further comments discussions questions on the motion before you i mean not only for the motion please i oh say no motion passes it was when i used to excused captain thank you for assisting the committee this morning thank you very much members kate we have one more police requests members this morning is the final item that i'm going to have us review today this is department of police county wide county wide police facilities and in this request it is considering a additional project for improvements to the police or a local all monies to be able to finish the project we were requesting an amendment to appendix c to add into the description improvements to the way local police station records and evidence room no additional funds are is installing bulletproof windows in the walls to the record section and that's currently ongoing and we're adding the now the evidence section portion of the of that area too so that we could be safe in the air we we process approximately on average about five hundred firearms a month spike you know they were up to seven to eight hundred firearms a month and that's a lot of firearms to come through our station in the record section so that's what the money is for kept and from out of state firearms from out of state as well just like eighty five hundred weapons are you cherry for me to have seen it fluctuate depending on what's here so there's also less publice to legally purchase munitions also then and should be a concern for us lady's at this point having to come outside of office in order to have to process these firearms and even though sometimes they're on while they're supposed to be on hold or one day when they're brought up and this is one of the main areas of our of our police station is use for entrance and  oftentimes we have people in altered mental status that are also coming in there as well for various reasons so it's just for the safety of our workers inside the record section that's also though that is that also inclusive of the window  they're kept in where local but not at this area where we were fixing up right now and then the final question is at some point i know you have to keep it keep the evidence for so many years regards to the firearms what do you do with them do you after the expects spiration of the required time that you must keep the evidence what do you do with the firearms do you wholesale them what do you do burn them up do you didn't we destroy the the weapons and again you know the point that it was under deal when our it was confiscation for that say poaching the illegal caliber for hunting purpose or whatever so they would confiscate  firearms and after a certain period of time i guess disposal of what he said he would do in a public auction in the funds from the auction would go back to the department's enforcement and program so i can just for a general understanding of seven hundred firearms what would you save the breakdown would be between handguns versus rifles but we do have a breakdown i believe it's almost  accessible to the station being secure old secured however the area where the records is a public interest public opening and if we had to be a metal  scanner and we average five hundred firearms of a month that's five hundred times that that things were bought so it's not unusual to have firearms in the lobby again there are some precautions that  with this last this first phase of our renovation it allows interaction the passing of the firearm from the the owner to the clerk to to register it through fortunately for us not to would we seem to get it after someone has done it already someplace else and so would we were able to react later thank you and you know with us adding this just the verb projects ability one of them already that we've looked into we've got some feedback would not cost as much as we thought initially so we're hoping that it kind of offsets for this project putting improvement projects department of police county wide county wide police facilities file enough communication six industry one eighty three and allowing staff to make any required non substantive changes to the proposed  an ordinance so you have a motion by mr white's kidded by mr carr which any further discussion members every now and only for the motion please say i post in the motion passes with seven have communication from mr borrows three proposed bills for an ordinance as well as a report regarding the wake up to facilities master plan i am concept in some general vision in for what he would like to have us consider on this polls will i have agreed to allow him that opportunity and therefore have agreed to defer this for