george you saw a couple of the e mails that were sent yeah and there was some concern expressed about the issue of serial communication and i think i'm not exactly sure what it is you want me to address and i'll give me a lot of time to do it evers are required to deliberate on any matter of the business of the board that is not subject to annex one of the executive session exceptions you know open meeting posted forty eight hours in advance pursuant to an agenda that identifies the topics that are going to be discussed discussed with sufficient specificity for people to know what you know about meaningful notice of what's going to be discussed that the concern that has come up pertains to the issue of emails and the e mails are potentially a manner in which deliberations can occur even though may back up a little bit when the opening a lot was first adopted we didn't use email and so the open meeting law was really conceived to be involved face to face discussion as it turns out people have figured out a lot of ways to to to communicate and talk about issues without meeting face to face email is obviously one of a very easy way to do it and so if the board were to deliberate either by emailing one another or by emailing a third person for the purpose of allowing those communications between board members to be channeled through that third person that is considered to be a violation of the open meeting right so you you can not use the town administrator for example as a way of coordinating agreement for finding remit but between the three selectmen you cannot express your opinion in an email that's copied to other people  and and have other people express those opinions back and so as a river i think the board has had a good understanding of these rules generally we don't email each other about you know i think it's fair to say  since i've been on the board and i'm sure this was true previewed prior to my being on the board i haven't talked to sammy baghdad he or mark little outside of an open meeting for two years and i talked to sammy twice this week so it's a you know it's a relief for me to be able to talk to sammy my concern is that but there is an idea that if i send something for someone that that then can be sent on to adam and mark with it as long as there's no discussion and that i think is where we're breaking down a little bit and i wanted to get it sorted out before we went out i would provide you with a copy of a couple of different attorney general opinions that deal with this issue of serial communication ok and one of them actually finds no violation in a situation where e mails from between i believe it was the chair and third persons were provided to the other board members because it was determined that these this was not for the purpose of deliberating but it was for the purpose of providing information to the other board members ok now that i that's what david always did and i and that's what phyllis was doing was being right so that's ok so if one of you it communicates with a third party about some matter of substance and that issue is going to come before the board if if the e mail is being provided to the other members to to give you all the same basic information about what's going on in a particular matter that's not a violation of the open meeting law as opposed to being a way for you making a recommendation or expressing an opinion to content of the e mail that's being shared matters right again there there's also just a lot of courses of dealing between the town a minister's office or members of the force selection and third parties that ultimately you know are part of the background of an issue that the other board members need to understand ok so this is consistent with what i learned when i first became a select by calling the eighty's line and what we're saying is that information can be if i give information to philip she consented to adam or mark or even any of the three of us can send information but we can't tell phyllis i can't tell philip what i think and then she sent of to mark and write in and out so just to use the most recent example email correspondence between you  palmer concerning your understanding of where his contract stands right that was permissible it sent to the other board members for the purpose of understanding this is where we are right in terms of our negotiations with jim palmer but goes no further this is what i think we the board need to do ok then you don't have an open meeting violation because you haven't taken that step of saying this is what i think we need to do and then correct me if i'm wrong but if if someone says that there has been an open meeting violation and they make a report the remedy comes back to us but it isn't that i mean it's not as i understand it the a g is not trying to be in this regard they're they're trying to be preventative you know so they just they don't want it to happen they want people to be aware of it and if there is a violation then they come back to the body that violated the open meeting law an open meeting law applies to many of the committees that are can in the town as well all come on the committees excuse me so it can happen anywhere but the remedy is that it just comes back to the body where the where the violation occurred and then that body has to organize itself to prevent it from happening again and if if the violation requires going back and doing something again in the right way that the whole purpose of this is you're put on notice of the claim that somebody believes you violated the open meeting law you get the first opportunity to decide what to do about it and then if they complain it isn't satisfied with your response they can take that to the attorney general  overspending but it gives you the opportunity if you think you've committed a violation actually to come clean about it and it needs to be fixed to fix it ok you guys have any question i don't know whether this is nothing to me and i'm happy to walk with a little more notice give a more expanded you know i think it's good i think this will keep us where we're supposed to be all right so now i think we're going to go to the executive session