jarrett and mr calvin call and i'm most happy that you were both able to take time from the very very busy schedule that you have to the real issues you're out there on our streets day in and day out i'm curious in some respects and i and i pose this question to both of you are we seeing an increase in the number of individual label homeless on our streets today  numbers but i can just tell you from the visual part that i see when i'm out there i have exact numbers it definitely is increasing and calvin's out there with him so he might have some better thoughts on it i would say yes very much so also the level of hole this is the different levels the chronic lee mentally we have a lot of vulnerable people out there and it's to be a large undertaking to identify tree ours them to the right place and get them the help that they need to sustain them the goal is to fix it the goal is to give them that case management this can be effective enough to current circumstances when you when you mention the sustainability of these individuals as we go forward referring to different services  what services because i hear the word services quite frequently top of about and and my understanding and others may be different it may be a wall between what i think medication education and compliance psychiatric needs and then day in and day out services of life skills just how to manage their lives  it's imperative and it's it's going to take a team for of reach individual to get them to where they really need to be and it's just not a one time occurrence but it's a daily nightly twenty four hour almost operation often many of them need to be go through detox mckay ssion many of them need psychiatric care that will help them deal with years and years of neglect so it's a lot that's going to have to happen for them to be successful and when there's a so we are successful that because those are the places where we measure what is happening here best practice is proven that there are more than one there is there are many parts to this you do the psychiatric the mental health medication medication is is is always a and issue when it comes to me because some people medicate themselves some people overdose themselves through their own medication and many are not capable of given their own medication even though they have it how are we structured or how are we able you as a case ability we need a place where pharmacology can be administered we need that psychiatric person that can write scripts and then we need that individual that can actually administer them daily while want your twice or even three times a day and then it must be documented it's a lot of work to a lot of it's a large undertaking then we have to observe them while they're actually taking the meds to see if the meds are gonna work or we need to add more take from it's a whole nother portion of care for those that are suffering the chronically mentally ill even those who just major depression and what have you that this undertaking has to be detailed it has to be safe it has to be documented and you know because we want the best care for these persons and it's a lot of work but right now do i need is there something in place right now i know but it's something that's going to have to be addressed and  know conversations are no son and yours as a hunting member you're all over the city and both of you working in conjunction with each other when you set the level of persons and i at this point used the word transplant has changed are you seeing a difference in the individuals that are younger that are self medicating with alcohol and spice and i guess i'm i'm a bit curious even more so recreational sport but homeless who are engaging in these activities with the spice and and the other substances who are here we do see a l demarcation here from the persons that we deal with during our one of months and the persons we're dealing with now in your case size and know that now we're placing upon you and when i say we the media has described these hot teams as the commission they like to have you taking care of everything that we have going on in the way of our situation presently with the homeless you too both in a transitional position because it's new it's new so you you are the prototype for what comes and i would imagine you arriving the script as you go through the day or your duties periods so that makes for some place that the three of you have to sit back for a moment and go over we're you are and we we you know every day the new day and we come out here on the on the week we mar weekly stats and then we try to figure out how many outreaches we did how many placements we've made what kind of contacts we've had and and we are you know this is a new a new adventure w god going through and you know we're learning as we go bottom line if we want to be successful and we want to help one person at a time and we want you to be successful because your success is our success and acknowledged as the to be applauded because if i were to ask her the three of you how many individuals you each dealing with if i were to separate those numbers out there i'm fairly certain that each of you are dealing with over twenty to twenty five different persons at any given oh yeah yes i can easily i mean you're twenty five you're of twenty five which grows day in and day out mention those twenty five as your specials you recognize them day or night you more yeah well if anybody ever wants the if anybody has any more ideas that we don't have we welcome ideas we and we've partnered up with several great organizations throughout the city i can listen if we have time if not  you know the resurrection the foundation army we have family in jewish center the the veterans affairs and we have all kinds of different people that we're reaching out and where we are partnering with and we go out in the field every day and some of these people are actually coming out in the field with us so if anybody has any more suggestions you know we're open we're not we don't know at all you know i've been a police officer for twenty three years i'm now in the role of nandan foresman i'm out there engaging with the homeless and i'm not there to arrest them i'm there to help them and one of the girls purse the groups that you mentioned were the veterans you know and i know cabinet that's one of your pets and i understand that there's been place where several of those who have been identified as but veterans presently yes are right now we're doing a pretty good job with one of the organizations that we're collaborating with we're not only getting them to take the and take information and getting them quoted in categorized as a veteran but we're also getting case management and place for them service i do want to ask though that many of those individuals that we were describing as veterans have given the service time many have different times of discharges which  prohibits them from certain carers and services how are you very briefly address in those interviews with because they have to be realigned service time has to be account after then a fine them whether they had honorably or even at this hour only the honorable ones have certain things that they are able to get from the government and even those ones that came out and maybe the terms is good when i leave anybody behind reacting to give them and guide them as much as we can because that's just the way it is the military we don't leave anyone behind and we don't want to differentiating one they serve things happen ok now we're here let's try to get them the services also that they can try that in st paul so i want to thank both you officers are us and you mr collins for what you do how well you do what you do and let you know that the city of sarasota appreciates the work that you're doing for the city thank you so very much for being