kosgei and this is let's talk health impacts from a very interesting show today and actually my guest has been on the show before and on the fascinating and quite talented susan thank you so much kill shelter in the middle of the state i live in and he was very sick and his previous owner had been a smoker so wilson had some lung issues and but as you can see wilson is very  a and spoke to one of the relatives of the owner so she told me the information and that's the best name so i got to call the vet so i just thought it was a great little story and i'm an illustrator and i thought well just write the story and it was straight so that was my first endeavor and children's book and what was the topic about how and how you rescued or how do i have read the book yet i actually have a but it was basically what you went through and acquire and where i went through coming to an all exactly in the books are all told from wilson's point of view so this is wilson telling his story of you know how lonely it was the shelter and that oh my gosh someone is going to adopt me so the books are all told from wilson's point of view so the first book of course with the second book with him was serious so the title the second book the second book which is wilson learns manners actually teaches children manners it's wilson teaching children manners so you're writing with these books at the view of educating children exactly a bot well not so much about pets it's really about real life experiences but wilson's telling the story wilson's seen how if he wants a biscuit he has to say please and you know cell phone manners and different things but it all mean they're teaching children a lesson and the reading level is third or fourth grade but but you can also you know course read it to the younger children but this book wilson learns manners i actually want to national book award on this book for making a visualizing the picture can i do exactly the same thing i mean i do visualize what the book is going to look like and what the pictures are going to be which actually is such a help because i am author and illustrator so as i was  were right usually usually one illustrates and one writes exactly exactly but i mean since i do both i you know i get to mold them together and you know it it does it seems to work yeah it definitely does so the second book and the first book are still available yes and where we were we barbara my website which is wilson gets adopted dot com and that will be on on a graphic right and you can also get the little wilson dog bit that goes with the books and  also saw on amazon dot com and barnes and noble and then there's some local places in pittsburgh that i sell wonderful so how did the third book come across about that well i mean i was just  with the election year this year at the beginning of the year i was thinking wait a second maybe something with the white house and i had a greeting card business in washington d c so i already had a lot of contacts down there and then i thought well let's  do wilson in the white house pup which would be wilson meeting the dogs going back in time in meeting the dogs who have lived in the white house so he went back to the beginning of the way exactly bear out of forty four presidents thirty one presidents had dogs in the white house starting with washington even though he didn't live in the white house he had many dogs so you had to research these  and i just i just called the person i didn't even know she was still there after so many years and as it turns out she's actually head of the white house the store cool so she should and i said would you guys be interested in a book about  visiting the white house tops and she said absolutely and we will even edit it for you so it's historically accurate and i mean i didn't mention every single dog because there's a lot of dog but there's photographs of these dogs or the drawings of actually that there is a photograph and a lot of the things that i did get are out of the the archives the congressional library and the white house a stor also help me out with some of the facts because you can always go with what is online that really isn't a fact so you have to take a lot of things that you get and then i presented it to them and they kind of went back and forth with me on  everything all the research yes and the actual writing of the book and putting everything together was too much human and that isn't really was i mean one and two o'clock in the morning i was i was working on either illustrations or researching the information you're drawing for the illustrations and then you're copying them into the computer yes i actually work with fake line he does my graphics so what i do is i would have to make corrections or start over again and things like that i really did that i had to start over i prefer to mention you know what i want to do and a lot of times like the book i'm working on right now which was which is about bullying actually had done  well we are the most critical work but so that is amazing you know i'm actually working on a on a medical sort of a medical book right now and it's just it's been eight months i just journal and ideas you know i haven't even started to format the book and it takes forever and sometimes you go through these periods where you're addicted to doing it and then you go through i can i can look at that for a while that happened with you well yeah because i was roadblock here so luckily the white house came into my mind and yeah and i started working on that but a couple other interesting little little tidbits about the white house i had read that reagan heard there is a dog house do you happen to have a picture of this and he e mailed me he said actually we have the dog house here so he sent me photos of it oddly enough i've been to the reagan white house and library in simi valley and i've seen it favorite ones of course is valid which is roosevelt's dog and he was very famous and he's the only only president's dog that has been memorialized in a statue which is with roosevelt down in washington d c but fel little space capsule but pushing crow was a real dog and then she had the puppies with charlie which was their their family dog and then they had four little puppies and kennedy called them papa mix so i thought that was photographs that i got online to work with one of this life magazine was lyndon johnson's two dogs him and her that were beagles they were actually featured on the cover of life magazine why it's like this i guess the dogs almost become some type of symbol or some type of icon for the white house well i think they do i think they do and i when i was looking you know like getting up to date most current presidents had dogs jimmy carter is the only one that probably was not a dog lover they had a cat and somebody gave one of the teachers of his daughter gave them a dog and i think the dog lasted a week in their house they they claim that the dog didn't get along the cat but i think you have to wonder about that so they only had a dog for a week and then clinton had a dog at the very end of his term and they t exactly yeah so we're working people by well this book actually the first edition is sold out wow i sell them at the white house a store cal she ation which they're doing very well the senate and d c they're sold at the smithsonian and wilson and i were actually invited to the national museum of american history on september fifteenth for a book signing  so they're there have the books too but i don't know if they're sold out of what they have the kennedy center has behind history center has some here in pittsburgh but as soon as the election is over and i you know see if there's any changes that have to be made to the book then i will print the second edition so but of course people can always order now and you know it'll be on order as the years progress this is a book that's going to be right you know just change the last page which right now as though obama and you know if he stays in another four years and you know that particular edition stays for the next four you know that's a special value of his own airplane oh yeah bullied and neither will you and that is about bullying which goes on a lot yes from what i understand exactly in people wife and dog wife so i'm really excited about this but this is  a really great book you know what's amazing is the books the right and they do address some interesting topics of course but they're done very delicately right almost slightly  just better be better person yourself and not pay attention to that person that's a bully you yeah you know it's more about self esteem in the it's a good book it's a good book i'm really excited to come o i color pencil so it's a mix so for example the picture with the spaceship and the dog took about how long for you oh i don't know because i you know i i sketch it out first and then i kind of go over some t's my last one so it's like ok you need to get this done and it's just taking a while you know when i paint sometimes i just start and i can't stop until i finish the page yes i know that and then other times it'll be like thing i did is i sent the white house a book to all of the living presidents find a copy and what was the response with that was very interesting i had everybody responded with some type of a note three presidents actually responded with a little note and an autograph or and that was george w bush in this order george w bush bill clinton barack o wow incredible so they they find they just signed a little note acknowledging you know thank you for the book and with their signature on it but everybody has the copy of the book everybody accepted yeah i thought that was kind of a fun little thing to do autograph your book when you went to the guest and did you read a little well you know president clinton and then i wrote a little note as well because he had sent me a birthday greeting years ago and i've actually been to the white house several times and i've had dinner there and i designed an ornament for the white house so i went to a reception hosted by mrs bush so i added that into the you know the  know dogs in the civil war my gosh how about how about dogs in any of the smithsonian institution i mean there's so many different museums and i mean everybody's got some little story with a dog yeah i mean i could just do a book on the might be interesting with the you know the pennsylvania connection and right and so for the history there are so many ideas and i still like the cookbook i mean i still think it's a book for kids would be you know the fun yeah  we did a video a wilson has a video two of the presidents it's on you to explain that one ok well we had fun with this one i dressed i got all these little hats and costumes that  that were historical in nature and i dressed wilson in little hats and he recites actually my voice recently and he's sitting in front of a flag and he recites every one of the presidents but he's in a different little habit like bill clinton he has a little dark sunglasses on and of course abraham lincoln he has the big tall hat on and it actually is a promo for the white house book so there's a little two hours while on a little stool with we had a flag in the background and he sat there with all the lights and everything didn't move we just escaped putting little hats on him and little scarves and it's  really cute but it's also nice teaching toll you know if kids are trying to learn about the president you know if they see wilson reciting the president and wilson on the right right in you know and if they see wilson and you know and they think of wilson with a certain hat on people think about that president sure so it's a great teaching tool in and we also go to school too so you're taking wilson yeah we go we go to schools and i do book reading and then i also talk to the kids yes i know thank you yes i know and but of course lately we're talking about the the white house pop then they also talk to the kids about my experiences for the children i website wilson's website is wilson gets adopted dot com and he really likes to be in costumes he gets a kick out of that so i also have barked a vote mark a vote yeah make your make your mark he's so happy to be adopted i've got to tell you anything there is a difference and i've had so many rescue dogs in my life i really only had one puppy that i raised as a poppy we purposely went out and go and she was the most incredible dog i ever had actually but they know that you've taken them rods and then them love them and care for them and they usually come from a very bad situation right and this that the difference these books and go out and buy them they are incredible this is one talented lady here she is able to take the artwork which is to me is incredible anybody they can paint and draw is just amazing and then to put it to words and have  purpose is incredible so i know you'll continue to have success with it with this line of books and wilson will be a good representative for everybody i know that the book i can't wait to get the book in and i expect a signed copy from you and rose about the bowling which is which is an issue so good luck thank you so much for coming on wilson thank you and i get a shake thank you so much for walking watching let's talk healthy pets we'll see you next time remember a healthy pad is a healthy pet look after your animals