convincing evidence one of three factors either that there was a lack of due process notice an opportunity to be heard or that there was something insufficient without the  supporting the decision were there are there some other great reason would prevent those who are or should prevent the court for respecting the decision made by the supreme court  and so i wouldn't assure you that we have read and study your submissions so i do a lot expect you to review everything you've said but it is a hearing that you begin maybe you can give me an idea of how you propose to proceed most importantly i want to answer whatever concerns and questions your honor happens after having you have the opportunity actually no occasion where a complaining party made any kind of declaration under all just no sworn statements at all in the record aside from the fact that this was a was a default judgment even though i was attempting to defend myself was out as that's a concern and you know i think this post one hundred fifty years ago that the supreme court is next part first that a complaint against the lawyer support what was being alleged against me and i'm not saying that i did everything right this is the most important point and i get treated it sometimes in hearings that we have as if blaming other people or denying that i don't have didn't have any errors i mean that did have errors and i did have things that needed to be corrected and and in point of fact a disciplinary committee had done its job the way that the rules provide for it to do  checking is leaving the disciplinary committee the composition of the disciplinary committee changes all the done the doing multiple reports all at one time and recommend prosecution on all of them and come up with  allegations and the next thing i know i'll come flying into the supreme court disciplinary committee doesn't have any authorization under the rules to bring interest suspension action in this scene of my supreme attorneys the rules require that when they believe there is something to be prosecuted is to be referred to as a very court presiding judge and the chief justice of the supreme court and that  that wasn't done the chairman came into the supreme court and did in this totally unprecedented and unauthorized interim suspension proceed and i was given very little time to with a decision in order is needed in suspending the practice of law and so the first thing i did saturday morning was to write a letter to the immigration judge in honolulu go he didn't actually respond to that letter which i fax with permission to immigration court in honolulu and so i went to immigration situation is actually part of the reason why we ended up with the dissolved in the superior court and the other thing about the one and then we ha refusing the set aside the default because of the fusion about that day now that i think that that kind of gives a stance the let's see exhibit in the interim suspension proceeding that was the first opportunity i ever had to see it so frankly i'm not sure i'd ever read king's report in war all very carefully because i never saw it i don't have a clear recollection of doing that but my recollection is that yes they did provide that but i would have to go back and reexamine those e mails and see where they are specifically referenced it in one of those e mails i can't think of any reason would withdraw their complaint from the disciplinary committee which would know which when the stock the disciplinary committee from proceeding if they wanted it will but that was what we had agreed to but it was never that i needed to the prosecuting investigating attorney that there was an improper purpose for that night and that's basically what they're they're saying the fact of the matter fifty dollars twenty five dollars of which was to pay the appeal field fee which was paid and the other twenty five dollars and just a little something for office overhead but my mother was free on that case ten months i'm not sure about that at that time i had a secretary and a paralegal both of whom worked in my outer office and they would deal with people that were coming in that had questions and give them their responses and they were to taste and i will take on your case for one purpose only to get your employer to pay the ten thousand dollars for your heart surgery directly to summary judgment motion was focused on the federal lands now i don't you know i haven't gone back and reviewed all of that right now so that does not square with my recollection of the discipline but it certainly wasn't appropriate that is farming and it certainly wasn't appropriate to throw away all the strictures of due process of law in the process of coming after me that was motivated by something else  diligence play you do the worst wasn't granted until three years later or so to have to give up well you know that that's one of the things that trouble me about the first amended complaint which actually i had planned to for reasons that i don't want to get into and she didn't have any problem with the fact that it took that period of time before we had the the forest soon through and i don't recall the exact it when i gave it to the court but i didn't follow through on her written divorce decree and she needed and wanted and so there was an of the creator is also there in the record so there's that and that and that was that was named being overextended and not following through on getting her her written and she did provide me with that statement the problem was it was those somewhere between twenty and thirty thousand words and think your honor i'm not that well written and go i had told her complaint none zero and just wanted for whatever i probably should have filed additional misconduct complaints because just once and just blew off the handle and and held against him the was fundamentally what it turned out the situation was and and i asked him about his relationship with the school in this with and then two of them are saying well you know the awful wasn't really good to him and this is not the mother so they can petition for that was the situation and they i said ok well i'll look into it but it doesn't look good and they paid me a thousand dollars and that's reflected in the receipt that i'm going to research that and try to determine if there's a weight to do that possible design of the remedy there are three things and it's right there on the receipt and that's what they pay me a thousand dollars for and i did that work and then later on some months later they came back to meet with me with regard to the findings and how the korean language interpreter that i used for all of those meetings and i explained to them the wouldn't just try it the way and i said well you for that you have to say this is a little risky so that's a substantial amount of additional work and that's how they ended up filing a complaint against you because they didn't want to pay seeing that you had ten days and that you needed to save your career do whatever you have to do i didn't miss her but i didn't have the what they can do because i wasn't able to represent them anymore i was trying to get all my clients to receive copies of the interest especially order because that was one of the visions under the order and and i had honor i find it very hard to justify refusing to allow an attorney to be heard on the merits of the disciplinary case yet if i had been there are kids this is lots of cases in the reports if you go out there and look at treat a motion to set aside injury to fall the way just weiss treated my notion in this case it was just absolutely just wise but at the just like it is actually said so right there on the record in the entirely outside of the record which i never had an opportunity to argue about interpretations of rules and so there were never actually before that were and it relates back to  justice attorneys defending in that case anything to try to make me that issue in order to avoid the merits of the case is not appropriate professional conduct for the department of justice so she got into into those issues in her order in that reciprocal this case here has not set a deadline for when i was supposed to respond so i don't think that it was in violation of way by the court and by the disciplinary committee and all those other factors those things have to be satisfied in order for you to have to process further deception of due process was very very narrow so those are the two things that bottom there are several things that i can say with regard to that and part of that was my own habits in the sense that if i had somebody really reliable on top of those aspects of scheduling so i don't think it would never happen was that one factor and it's my responsibility to ensure that i have so three i was actually a victim of domestic violence my spouse was constantly doing terrible things that disrupted a lot of th time and time again about the responsibility of an intern to to not to let someone else direct their actions so that was that was one thing that influence practice in hawaii you care practice in the immigration court or of the board of immigration appeals so if you were able to continue practicing in that circuit where you invision your that then i could do it i don't think that would be a big practice but you know there are i'm used to living on a shoestring especially right now after being handed in and losing my office and so maybe a period of probation or a period of suspension maybe a intermediate approach what thoughts you have as for the cooperation we've had from the from the court staff there in making this hearing possible and without the hearing is never submitted thank you