why wasn't there an automatic stay of this case i would presume there would have been i'm actually a bankruptcy attorney primarily and i got a lot of then you know about automatic status yeah so what i was going to say is my opinion is during the time period in which they're discussing mr lasso and also service it would have been at the end of january which was approximately the time that the bankruptcy case was in a fact the bankruptcy was the battersea case things your clients file a declaration when the case is being removed saying we were so do state court we want to move it to federal court they filed a collaboration i don't believe they did i believe everybody else did i think they did too th once the case is removed yes they don't answer it they don't answer they file bankruptcy and staff well now they've already filed bankruptcy before that gets dismissed but that after the dismissal the served again personally with the amended complaint correct yes but not until august yeah i understand and they don't answer that either you know they don't ok not timely anyway court matter the pleadings were received and they were about an inch and a half deep and the summons was contained in the middle of the pleadings oh but they had been they'd been provided by email six months before with the amended complaint declined to accept service of it time so they knew that there wasn't any doubt that they knew there they were being sued in a village complaint was being filed they didn't answer it so the excuse for not answering well your honor a couple of things and that goes to the it was entered into in the bankruptcy case dismissing the case now if the court looks to that it indicates that and your challenge the amount of the judgment when they set a date moved to set it aside so when i look at the district court record all i find is something that says you should set aside the entire judgment day go in and but nobody said at the time to default judgment was entered wait a minute even if there's a default we're entitled to a credit for what the receiver has collected there was no dispute about the amount of the judgment enforced and your client declares bankruptcy with respect to the disk going to be of the found to be fraud and therefore not just chargeable in your argument in the bankruptcy court is then going to be well  entry of default judgment there are certain factors under the idle case all of which were specifically addressed by the just group or they were found against the allens and again they disagree with district court terminations of the state but that's different than whether or not the court failed to consider them and mr adams yes your honor i can't tell from this record how the amended court was for several months on the issue of whether or not he had a personal ship's jurisdiction over other defendants the material allegations concerning the personal guarantee or honor were not let's say we get past the entry of default so they're not going to be able to contest liability but we get to the stage of whether the default judgment should be set aside they argue that their work contested issues as to what the correct amount of damages should be essentially i think the district court basically gave your client everything it asked for and they say no no that should not have happened we actually do have things to say i guess it has to do is the sale maybe of some of the quadrille by the exclusively on the loan the applicable fees and interest and attorney fees incurred all of which were recoverable under the expressed terms of the personal guarantee a decision was made that in spite of the fact that approv unless there are other specific questions i believe that we've covered our position the specific elements in each of the decisions of the trial court of the standard move you i'm prepared to submit a further question from the