ok i'd like to call the monday november second two thousand and fifteen meeting of the board of selectmen to order my name is sammy baghdadi on the chair of the board with me is jim williams remember david cale  administrator phyllis marshall assistant town administrator mark could not be here due to a last minute personal matter that he had to address we have a agenda that's going to consist of introduction of our newest police officer to join the force and presentation of an award to the firefighters and also our police for their emergency medical services road opening requesting road opening permission to open the roads to run some piping and and then we have we conclude with a donation of three thousand dollars from friends of belmont sport so with that i would like to introduce our police chief who would like to introduce his newest recruit the dreaming and like to take a moment to introduce a newest member of police department who graduated on friday michael steele what michael was elected to as the president of the class and as i said to him earlier today obviously they saw something and were gone continue that road as he's here he had just daley for the remainder of this week and then he'll start his f t l program and for that will be about twelve weeks so we can get an idea of how things are done here in belmont and what he needs to do will be working a number of shifts different shifts and but again i'd like to welcome on behalf of the department and also the community michael st michael i welcome you on behalf of the board of selectmen in the town of belmont you're also a town resident right on maple street ok you're my neighbor where from the same neighborhood  and i think it's great that we can have you know one of our boys on the fore actually to that point missed a bag that he michael joins his brother who is also a member of a force that has been on about for years  ok and now both chiefs fire chief david for zell and our police chief richard mclaughlin are going to talk to us about the american heart association and massachusetts emergency medical services region four team award presentation good evening welcome welcome she will go off and we bring forth some good news and recognition for our employees we usually don't get to recognize our employees who do great work each and every day and one of the reasons that we aren't able to do that is because we treasure a patient's privacy so the personal information which relates to the event for tonight's recognition has been redacted and this protects the patient's privacy give you a little bit of background of what happened a few months ago there was a single car traffic accident one evening both the police and fire departments responded upon the police department's arrival they found a victim in the car unresponsive not breathing and in cardiac arrest they immediately remove the victim from the car and started life saving r shortly thereafter the fire department arrived in quick care was transferred to our paramedics they were able to place an advanced airway deal with a collapsed long along with other traumatic injur victim was transported to a boston trauma center and i'm happy to report that the victim survived because of the work of belmont's first responders the responders are actually receiving two different awards  for those that actually did hands on work that night they are receiving the american heart association emergency kaviak here save a hero award and that's this award here firefighter paramedic james being by a fight a paramedic michael dayton firefighter e m t john mcdonald firefighter e m t dennis maher lieutenant andrew tokyo and captain w what makes this even more important is the public safety staff was recognized by the boston emergency medical services council for what we commonly referred to as reaching for to receive the outstanding team response of the year award this award recognizes that a patient's outcome may not be dictated by a single individual but as the result of a team oriented professional approach this means that from the emergency tele communicators who take the call to the delivery of the patient to the hands of emergency department the team was required to meet the patients need the team the individuals and funny you will be receiving their formal awards on thursday evening at the annual awards ceremony in new they are formally being recognized for outstanding team response of the year and those members are from the belmont police department communications officer david jones communications officer brendan riley officer fran strassmann officer michael powell ryan officer jonathan ride  from the fire department will be firefighter paramedic james bank firefighter paramedic michael bacon firefighter e m t john mcdonald firefighter e m t dennis meagher firefighter e m t shawn camp kana lieutenant scott a lieutenant commander of tokyo captain wayne haley so the team that was working that night we thank you all congratulations on your awa this is just one occasion where residents in the visit is the town of received excellent here it happens quite a lot we don't recognize our staff for the good work they do day in and day out in this is just one example it's an example of the success of our advanced life support program which is now been up and running for two years service has become the model for other communities again good work by our employees recently you may have seen some postings  is all being done within the current budget constraints so it's providing good service to the residents of the town i thank you for supporting this service and i think due to the room would be separate once great work guys thank you well again on behalf of the town and the board of selectmen you are heroes and i thank you for your service and you know for your heroic measures and we see that we appreciate it and we're agenda always nice to see heroes being recognized for their for their actions next i next i think you know we should convene as a board of survey ok next matter which i will take up is any questions from town residents on matters not on the agenda ok then matters let's take up acorn park road requests to change name to acorn park drive and i'll ask our town clerk to please come and sit here couple of years ago in that process glen really has final say on the designation of numbers and my job in that process is to make sure that all the connections are made through all the town departments as well as through the us post office the owners of record cetera when glenn notified me that he had assigned an address to the development of the uplands just for convenience sake not for specific addressing sake by unit as seventy five acorn park wrote i looked at the plans and i saw them being submitted as acorn park drive and being a punk like i am i grew up here and i always knew that it was a car parked right and i drive by it every day and so i went back to glenn and i said well maybe i've made a mistake it should be a car park road could you show me where the board of survey voted and so he kindly produced this map  sixty eight and the border survey had signed it but then i went back to the board of survey and board of selectmen minutes and i find no evidence that it actually a vote in public session of the board of survey took place so then further we had a little bit more conversation in terms of g i s looking at what's going on in cambridge because this is as you know an extension of a road that already does exist in cambridge and has a lot of existing development on it and talk to t constantino who is our g i s guy for belmont as well as the postal service and for clarity at this point we are recommending collectively all of us including the post office everyone's on board saying it would really be  preference to name it a car park drive instead of a corn park road just continuation of correct of the cambridge yes over the line it does not change its name so motion short mr chairman i make a motion that we approve the road formerly known as acorn road extension to acorn park drive so if the applicant or petitioner is here then please join us and if you have any plans to show us or are they on the y five concord avenue we are here to request a prove over subdivision plan that the first off the most significant waiver we're looking for is the with the length of the roadway under roadway here as opposed to a typical granite curve that you would see in a more urban setting and i think what this petition is about is essentially one's vision of don't want as i say this at this end of dam on  more passed or than urban and that reason we are requesting the various way of israel related to those characteristics which typically would make it look more like a city street sidewalks curbing and the plan as presented we believe is entirely consistent with the physical environment that for a long stretch of concrete haven't you further down and then going forward with me tonight is the  them or they aren't charging and then the dark gray which represents hard scapes asphalt driveway going into both of these properties i think one of the interesting features of the design of the existing drivers for both is they both provide for a turnaround a parking exits the site at two different locations at each one each light exits the site heading out into the into the roadway as one would expect as opposed to your typical people backing out who have driveways that are much closer there the two curb cuts exist here in here is the outline the existing route kind of faded on here but there's one driveway the other driveway is along here and they're now being combined into a single point of access an egress from  this location for all four house lights the other we do know that typically when you're looking at subdivision you're looking at access and you're looking at sight lines and degree of public safety you know visibility for cars coming up and down the avenue and  part of the plan calls for the installation of drainage structures actually right at the corner of the each driveway the net result of that work will result in a thinning out of the vegetative i think we have  for the for the roadway the other photo shows a sight line from the other way proceeding from the south heading north and there you would see that the the driveway is somewhere down in this location so you have a clear sight line coming down the street in addition if you could bring the other photo back michael for a second if you see that this is heavily vegetated here and as i said part of the work involves installing this roadway would be to install these drainage structures which are to be entirely maintained by the owner in compliance with your regulations that would result in a thinning out of vegetation which also would contribute to the improved sight lines for cars proceeding north or south  past the past the proposed st james court without i think i would turn the microphone over to michael cosmo to explain the configuration of the drivers and  comes in meets the grade requirement to seven percent i think what is it for the first fifty feet it's half a percent as you come in off of concord have we're proposing  but that is the reason behind the roadway being two hundred thirty four feet where we're maintaining those as about acre lots the two front lots will be in excess of twenty five thousand square feet again the sewer they'll be a proposed manhole center the cul de sac you know will flow toward to be a manhole before we tie into the existing system unconquered have we did have discussions with the water department there was a wall proposed water line and they're only comment was a request to relocate the proposed hydrant at the end of the line for maintenance purposes and that's reflected on this plan and from a drainage standpoint because  of the elimination of a good part of the existing driveways we're actually reducing peak flow for the two ten hundred year storms anywhere from ten to thirteen percent but we are providing on site drainage just as a way to treat some of the runoff from the impervious area before we overflow to the town system and concord have that is essentially it from a technical standpoint i don't think there were any other major it we could curve it up in that area and what that would accomplish would be to just provide three hundred fifty feet of total roadway additional pavement additional utilities additional manholes it does not add any additional lots and pavement of sixteen feet where is that you that's the way that is the proposed pavement with it's the dark gray on the upper plan on the easel but it's right in there where we would require twenty six feet yes there is a provision in the regulations to reduce it to no less than sixteen feet for a forty foot right of way ok and the outline around it is not a sidewalk that is that that is the that's what the  set itself the meets the regulations i think it's a forty two foot radius so that does that does meet the yes it's actually a little large in that mr chair what we've done is we asked the fire department event just would write us of occasions for their equipment so that we can give to the applications that you need to design your house sec to be able to accommodate this vehicle from the fire department so we give that standard to the designer and they design accordingly so i believe in this case thirty the diameter of the cul de sac is larger than forty two and that's because of the equipment the fire department has we want to make sure can be accommodated on that you're ok yes we did enlarge the pavement  trees ok so how many trees in effect blan are would there be for trees will there be trees about forty six thousand and the idea that we had a similar proposal i think you had a proposal recently which i think you had a proposal next door for it sixty three right in by we we chose to we hope that you'll vote on this on the merits but if we need to distinguish this project from that we're prepared to do so ambassador rice our beneficial owner now is william hunt as the next will and has been bought by the appellate the applicant i wanted to ask that proposed you use the phrase roadway is it a public way or a private it would be responsible to maintain it would be privately private however we understand that the town for public safety thing to public ways that doesn't go anywhere it's strictly a driveway and i see euphemism what it really is doing is increasing the density of the area which is already going on the week properties for a weeks property so the real question of policy for our excellent border survey selectman is whether you want to keep on increasing the density of land that impacts schools that impacts your public works it wouldn't surprise me to have a public works department request a new snowplow if you keep this provides considerable area here in here for snow storage or in here in here for snow storage or here here for snow storage i would disagree with the speaker's comment that this is really a euphemism a public way is not something that connects to other streets fix many any cul de sac that had tipping point number gaius a number of house lights are off of a cul de sac is considered a public can be considered a public street reason the only reason is considered private ways because you have regulations that require the owners the developers to take responsibility for its maintenance and we we realize that we have to clean the catch basins we have to meet you know on a monthly or yearly annual plan let me say something about this i am here representing these kinds but i have zoning practice that is my primary area of practice and so this idea of density is not new to me i represent people all the time and where the density question is brought up density is a function of the number of a house three times out size so you're talking about actually putting four houses and this in if you did the mathematics simple computation you have a thirty seven and a half thousand square feet per each unit so you it's not a violation of  zoning to establish these kinds of districts and we think this is good land use planning in other words the idea of the waivers is from a static point of view is consistent with we trust your vision of what belmont should look like at private ways in belmont yes you do which which is not one of them is while i don't know if they're really not a central point but it's not well known in the community but we understand that this is a private way and we plow all private ways as a as a matter of public safety so i think your your main objection to a ninety three had to do with density and development that's right and and the idea that your house abut eight ninety three and the concern in that hearing was that if eight ninety three was developed then the next two lots would be developed so here we are now in the next two  and i said this is not a new idea and do you do you favor or object to this proposal oh i object to it i think is nonsense and in my own case when i had my son already there in we have one house and then you have the hot property to deal with so i'm sorry to say that public policy being in place as a result well i mean they're they have a right to make the proposal of course and the other questions that look and no i think we're in we're in the same position that we were with h b o three which you know it's the issue with with age sixty three was we think that area of belmont has a very special character and all the lot or many of the laws on concord in that area are capable of subdivision so if if we open the door to one we need to open the door to all we were pretty strict on bell hunt we really were and and and you know he came before us three times at least and you know and we made it clear that we thought our regulations were in place for a reason you know i would i would throw out that the reason why the regulations say roadways have to be three hundred fifty feet three hundred fifty feet long are to prevent these kinds of subdivisions the other thing i had a problem with at the time was calling driveways public roads i understand it's less impervious surface and that's desirable but at the same time i mean you know subdivision control law public roads are public roads and if we start you know if we start reducing which should be forty feet down to sixteen feet and fifteen feet and seventeen feet every lot in belmont you know you  increase the pool of lots that can be subdivided you know i think i think significantly in the town loses its character so i mean the position we took with bill hunt was you know come back with come back to us with a plan that complies with the regulations you know and we'll look at it and as a lawyer i like to set a precedence which you know communicates our policy and i just have a tough time you survey i frankly appreciate the idea of the fact that the pavement is only sixteen feet high i'm very concerned about storm water management i think that's a good way to do it  but the the the true issue is that the the a butter objects to the development of these three lots that that's the real problem that that we had also an age sixty three there if you remember there was think to say yes would would be to say that the three abutting properties will be developed as proposed as what is what it amounts to possibly up oh you mean others that aren't in this  you know it's it's it's likely well let me ask you i mean if you want to continue the hearing and maybe he'll let me ask your question because if we're going to to me today to say that if sandy hit high tide went when hurricane sandy was coming through that high school and when brook would be under nine feet of water so because of the know not because of us felt it but it's part of the concern i want to manage we don't want to matter so the question is if if there if it's a number of waivers i mean we obviously we could we could put sidewalks in i mean and we could give you a paved area and we could i went to all the minutes of your treatment of age sixty three and i even know who said what and so we attempted to respond to those you had sightlines concerns because sixty three is on the bend of the curve and we had we so that's why we took these  status a clear sight line going north or south the other thing is that was kind of an odd shaped cul de sac as one of those like pipe stem breaks where you come up and you have a lot in the back of your big circle it's not your conventional keyhole it's not wasn't really a keyhole subdivision because you had one lot behind us more like a real lot subdivision that i'm familiar with and city of newton where i practice this is a two bickel keyhole street and the only thing the only thing distinguishes it it's not an extra hundred feet long but by all our standards i would think it it does it is consistent with the character of belmont is it really fair to say that people have three quarters of an a and acre and three quarters and a half acre zoning and they're going and they should be responsible for basically maintaining their  whole front area there as you know for the benefit of the public because books are paying tax on it they're paying taxes on it why should they be allowed to basically develop those front laws and still be within the zone of well above what the zoning requirements of a minimum   it's just i just don't i think there's enough facts that distinguish the reasons why you were looking askance at age sixty three and why you should approve of this and the other thing is we  cite that you know this gentleman owns his property he's entitled to deed restrict it for his for his you know his the descendants that's fine but he's essentially imposing his view of what his property  the rest of the street not when he asked for waivers or i say we could comply with all the ways but the rank ok not when you ask when you ask for waivers ok you're asking us to take the rules of the game and change them for you which opens up a fair discussion i think you know by residents and others that are we could come back with no waivers you understand we could come back with no way of us with that that's where we left mr hook and then he was true yes he was true the other point is that you know we we've been up there because there were several hearings about it sixty three right and it's pretty clear that  perhaps from a non legal in a non expert zoning perspective that the houses that are on these properties were designed for the large properties particularly the one next to age sixty three that's a huge house and i don't know what the square footage is and i'm not an expert so i don't think i really weighs into the decision but i think it definitely is clear that these are state like properties and you can subdivide them as you proposed and you can meet their requirements but then then it comes down to the question of the character of the area and the about hers objection i mean it's that basically where we delay this decision and review the the length of the driveway discussion the driveway policy what would be helpful ok monday december seventh at seven pm when the when mark returns for another meeting can we discuss as i think the idea of exceptions to the rules is a real problem and you need to look at the rule to see if the rule makes sense right but then we're you know we're back to the same consideration that we were at the sixty process it's been a bit of an education for me on this particular petition because i have since learned that in addition to the street opening permit process private ways are not subject to approval by the board of selectmen for right of grants of location for utility so technically speaking the board of board of selectmen have no role in approving this application however we had a conversation with dennis earlier today where we explained all of this to him but also explain to him the fact that ernest road is a road that is in very difficult condition it is a private way and therefore it is not a road that's part of the pain imagine program and so there is a concern amongst departments in the town and also amongst residents on the road that restoration of this trench be done properly and because we plan to correct correct and so i think we have an agreement that have it that the restoration will be done that the department of public works does have purview under what is known as jackie's law which is a law that so no no no so it's my hope and my idea that since the gentleman is before you this evening that the that the board of selectmen could attach some kind of a condition that even though there isn't strict overview where they will be working with public works to get permit construction conference with the public works director and we had he had to his restoration standards and that will happen in this case also otherwise he wouldn't be getting the permit i mean you all have a good  working relationship yes with glen and in j so one thing that i'd like to know going is this the condition of the private ways is always a concern to  me since i've started in this position because i think it's widely misunderstood in the community about the condition of the roads where they attribute it to the town government when in fact the residents along the private ways are  the repair of this trench is going to be subpoenaed here to the rest of the road without question and you know do we have any authority over the rest of the road as a private way i thought we did if it was in such bad shape that we couldn't services only if the residents agree right to basically pay for the repairs to the road and i don't think that hugo she has resulted in a positive resolution to that how bad is that the the justification for the town to maintain private ways is to make sure that they are passable for service vehicles and emergency vehicles that let's take snow plowing out of that from moment talk strictly about the surface in the condition of the roadway public works has the right the statutory right to spend taxpayer money to patch potholes on a private way to make impassable that's correct the plowing of snow on a private way is a much more convoluted topic and i would suggest that we that we have that offline it's it's a gray area and not one that i'm familiar with where where you have a road that reaches a certain condition where municipality can step in you that seeing that we made specific to ernest road i've had several meetings with the residents of furnace road over the last maybe three or four years we've talked about cost we've talked about a plan of action we've talked about different options to get that road repaired u we're talking about is going to make the road better or worse in this one location yes ok ok any other recommendations what about your recommendation of minimum two inches binder and two inches of top i think that's a pretty that if the project is approved to be approved with the condition that any runoff water runoff from the trench to area because to flow to the catch basin that the town installed years ago that's all that's why and i think only meant he's agreed yes very important but i just i should caution that there's going to be a gap between the trench the national grid creates in the location of the catch basin so they'll do what they can in ok then i guess what's the recommendation to do with do we actually need to vote or i would say that you should approve with conditions at the very least ok since you are like mr chairman i recommend royal and common street to provide service to a new customer ok so let me just let me just catch up this is the one that public works had an issue with about so the kind of it's going to be in the ground yes underground yes so this is an issue about where it would go in terms of the grass median versus maybe in the gutter and i think that public works is  as of today i think talked about making it a gun or patch with as opposed to disturbing the green so you want to go put it in a road that's correct the whole one another because it's pretty much run reckoning i think that's a town policy and it makes sense to me otherwise we have to go through the exercise of determining which grass patches have conduits and which don't correct so better to just say and you know and i commend horizon for considering the paving condition with their application to want to locate in the grass shoulder however as we've said it's future tree plantings in this case there's actually a shade tree that's already located in or i think it's prudent for them to come around hug the gutter line as best they can put in a good patch and we'll have the grass strip for the future and we'll have a good roadway patch for the present now how long ago was that paved has it been more than oh boy oh yeah years yeah well more so you do you have exception to the to the handhold locations are now you know what i think that you should work that detail out with given in public works my sense is that the hand holes in the shoulder are probably acceptable but you can do what one would come back out for the her blind and then jump back in when you get to the service drop out of the service point would recommend you going to try to do that this year yeah you know yes so it's probably in your best interest to set up an appointment with him soon ok because now the only meet up with him on most other projects i don't know why he didn't come normally to host number one fifty one for new gas service ok now you know this case is different yes because dalton road was just paid to you know the last two years yes and it is the town's policy yes that you know when we spend the money to pay for all it's we like them at least to look undisturbed for five years i understand ok delay in getting this petition before the board because there were conversations ongoing with public works and the street opening permit coordinated danforth's given and national grid to address this question of restoration recognizing that this road is  moratorium and so what what this memo explains is in the reason why i say what i recommend approval is because the understanding is that there has been a restoration plan agreed upon  by all the parties now what's always implied in this is that the board of selectmen have the right to trump any department level action because you're the final say yes my recommendation for approval was strictly based on the fact that there was a rest got to got or it was a pretty significant restoration which public works imposes from time to time in locations where the pavement is good enough that if somebody really wants to get in there and cut it they're going to earn it but that's not w endorse that if you choose not to that's your right to do that so you think for eighty five feet got in a gutter pavement i don't know that's the strict parameters of it but essentially it's along that line absolutely and i guess and then i talk to the people that i report to and they said that an agreement had been reached between the contractor and the customer and the public works department so but again it would be nice to see the issued so that permit would once i'm speaking a little out of scale here because i don't know exactly how public works does it my expectation would be that there would be some written document that explains what the expectations are for restoration you know once see once again as jeff there have been situations where because a property owner has had no other alternative other than to have that street cut public works has imposed very strict conditions for restoration  in this in that and that that could be something that simply related to a new service and therefore would not not get before the board of selectmen because it's not a grant of location but in a case like this as i said i mean you have the final say i think public works did the best that they could do in coming up with the restoration plan but that's not necessarily mean that doesn't necessarily mean that they are an advocate for cutting the street but you know we've received a petition from the better and maintain approximately eighty five feet more or less a four inch gas main and all the road to supply gas service to one fifty one dollar road in violation of the ongoing five year moratorium on breaches of the paper  memo national grid through the customer one fifty one dollars road has agreed to millen overlay the roadway impacted by the work ok ok any comments from residents ok good evening steve pinkerton town meeting member precinct seven and resident dalton road two houses away from one fifty one dalton road submitted an email today i won't go over that and in detail at this point and we also submitted a counter petition i'm here speaking  in part to give voice to a postcard that you got from my next door neighbor and the occupant of the house in between my house and one fifty one built in road  two decades to get dalton road repaved it had been in shambles when it was finally repaid two years ago and now less than two years later we're about to rip the street up in front of her house again just for the convenience of a developer who has alternatives he can use propane gas he can heat with electricity he could put in oil there is no compelling argument for tearing the street up for this particular project we had not seen or heard of this somewhat ephemeral agreement that was reached already done a curb not current well curb to curb cut across dalton road at one eighty five dalton and that i don't recall went before anybody and yet there was that violation of the five year moratorium and so investigate and so the point being that we are adamantly opposed to this the developer can wait in line with everybody else like we did to get gas service that's a good picture to show the planning board and we're working with the planning board now to work on getting things aligned more with the character of the neighborhood thank those steve you also mentioned today that there are other houses on beds that have propane has a brand new house that also has propane and again they're waiting for maine to go down that's road on that one and if if the main window that road could this house hook up to that it's long as we're not crossing anybody's property and we and we have to get in the street for gas main has to go has to go to at least the front of the house to so we can put the main in but we can if it's a side street and they are on the corner we can come in and eat only the way that the other house on bats road is two blocks away and so that would require a main down the street and the one eighty five dalton road propane tanks are on the ground and they're not underground they're usually others they're sitting in the back yards is that that's the case i think most times when they don't explode as i understand it it's not do we have a policy about propane tanks and backyards well they're permeated by five prevention the fire department of so they saw so they are per me have to be the standard to get propane is actually other thing i wanted to ask was in your planning for belmont do you do you wait until a customer wants to have gas or do you work with community development as we have this pavement program to does it make sense to you to put  man in the customer our customers this point are paying for that main to be installed because if we speculate didn't use it the cost of that goes back to repair you know we do reach out to all the different cities and towns with  e prevention if we have gas mains that we're going to plan on replacing and they plan on the rest restoring a road reconstructing a road we try to work with them to get a main in before they have a guaranteed stream in that if  allowed to speculate so but yeah more and more going to hearings was four five and six and a gas service is going off i mean main really is is there something that we can do with regard to the pavement program book that says if you all are thinking about that i mean would it be illegal for us to say that let me answer this way when we have a list of roads like the one that you'll be signing off on later this evening what community development as we notify everybody on that road let them know that we're coming in in the upcoming year to reconstruct that road we encourage them to contact any utility company that they feel like they want to contact to upgrade service or add service i'm not sure if we specify national grid but but it's certainly clear in the letter what they should do the letter also gives them an opportunity to talk to us about having granite curbing installed in front of their house it's at their expense but we work to coordinate that work i will say this about national grid they have been fantastic to the town of them on the last few years  we've been reconstructing a lot of roads and national grid has put a lot of their resources in the town of belmont to replace the mains on the roads that we have reconstructing it's not sexy people don't see it but between the upgrades that we do when necessary between the water departments work when necessary national grid there's a complete infrastructure overhaul going on on a lot of these pavement management roads and once again this list that you'll see before you later on the scene in thirteen streets ten of those thirteen streets national grid has already identified is where they want to replace them means very good common sense approach and i'm glad to hear that you all are doing if i if i had one complaint more crews send more crews three three on enough i feel like any other comments you know sir thank you very much for time i do have to comment that national grid in fact replace the mains on our street up to the point where they  road was redone and so all the more shame and having to come back and dig this thing up so soon thank you very much any other comments from residents ok jim i think  oh ok why don't you go to the mike i let you speak ok go ahead you very much yourself to the audience my name is my name is earl murphy i'm on the basically so my guess would be the stock has histories weekend after thanksgiving or my guess is that they would be done with this job by then or at least the public wards would push them to have it done by then because they wouldn't want to change my mind christmas trees take precedence vary but ok ok now are you sure we do that are you are you here for the lions club annual request to it to ok why don't if you set for one minute ok let's put the agenda then that this will be quick approval of pavement management engineering agreement also glenn yet once this is samples and basically evaluating the subgrade of that roadway and then using that information to come up with a pavement design for than reconstructed roads with also there is capacity in this contract to have personnel present during certain paving operations because we we want their expertise to make sure that things like density of subgrade are being met properly to make sure that the the binder that first course of asphalt is being installed properly there are density regulations in the specifications and we we welcome that support from v h b to make sure this is all being done properly and i place the onus on you please or residents watching on t v can you list the roads so people short so people love the roads sure they're going to be affected i mean maybe you don't have to say from where to where but well it's probably helpful because some of these have limits ok so clifton street common street to orchard street cushing avenue pine street to paysan road shop road school street to washington street marion road to belmont street to grove st albert ave toby road to lake street simmons out when you scott road to brighton street middle card street cowden street to cross street there are two segments as i'm trying know how do you pick the roads that you rebuild you you'll notice there that that it's there's not much magic to it i've essentially have grades on just about every road in the town and and i'm going from the worst to the best and so you can see n the one seventy two you're doing because it's part of the middle correct if there's an economy of scale judgment there is a portion of middle caught that's got a p c i of forty it makes sense to do the other piece that even the greatest seventy two it makes sense to do it all in one shot this is great news ok then do i hear a motion mr chairman i make a motion that we approve engineering service agreement in the amount of one hundred six thousand four hundred parking in front of lions clubhouse yes sir exclude parking in front of the lions club from saturday november twenty eighth to december twenty fourth to correct and fifteen for purposes of the christmas tree sale and also you're requesting permission to use the war  memorial delta which is where you store some of the trees and correct and and use it for sale it's an annual event you know it's a great fund raiser and i know you know you use your funds to help the you clued the march twenty fifth to twenty seven for the east to flower sale and then the may sale i believe for mother's day and for the perennial plants ell wines club from saturday november twenty eighth two thousand and fifteen to december twelfth twenty fourth two thousand and fifteen for the purpose of conducting their annual christmas tree and resale you've got separately or should i would do them all at once the also and to allow them to use the war memorial delta for storage and to allow them to use the war memorial for storage of christmas trees  also a move that the lions club turned the page requests the exclusion of parking in front of their clubhouse from friday march twenty fifth two thousand and fifteen to sunday march twenty seven for the purpose of conducting their annual easter flower sale that's a typo trade be sixteenth two thousand and sixteen yes march twenty first two thousand and sixteen to march twenty seventh two thousand and sixteen and finally the  for the mother's day flower sale to support the high school varsity and junior varsity softball ok and that's may sixth two thousand and sixteen through acceptance of donation from friends of belmont sport which is special programs organized for recreation time to offset transportation costs to special olympic events for belmont the amount of the donation is three donation mr chairman i make a motion that we accept the friends of bill much fiord the charitable foundation donation in the amount of three thousand dollars to offset for other kinds of offset activities that go into particular and you know it's a really great cause because it's you know children with special needs  and it's great to see them get involved in sporting and recreational activities special olympics ok well thank you to sport next town administrators report november ninth at seven thirty in this room ok and basically what we do is we listen that this is for the brides and cable license right and if possibly attending and except comments from anyone who's interested in making comments for the upcoming license renewal yet the idea is so that it will enable us to negotiate a better license agreement that addresses any concerns that users of the service may have i'll also say that belmont media center has and on the line question their online survey that you can complete that also asks for your end forte and and  suppose i will be speaking yes and i hope you'll be there as well but well you know i'm a veteran myself ok so be sure and be there as well well thank you any more any other business to come before us ok do i hear a motion to adjourn i want to say a few things if i may all please i'm sorry first of all i attended last thursday on reports yes ok i attended a tree warden hearing that lydia asked me to go to that involved removing four trees from the sidewalk in front of the belmont savings bank and the tree warden and myself were the only two people there and we voted unanimously to do it ok and these are four pear trees that were in the  of the sidewalk that had to be removed one of them was dead was already dead in the other three it's too expensive to you know dignam up and try try to do anything else with them so  that that happened also that night i did attend a stormwater management meeting and briefly and made a brief presentation of comments that glenn sent to me concerning seventy seven miles of pipe the average was to fifty to seven fifty k to repair realign pipes so if you if you average that five hundred increase the miles to eighty multiply you get forty million dollar project over thirty years which divide by thirty you get a million three a year so it's something that i think is possible the think about but david and glenn are telling me i'm i'm i'm sure they are familiar with the strategy and you know it's just a matter of getting them on the agenda and have them come here and talk to us about ok we'll do that ok that's that's where i've been and lydia called me tonight to make sure that i went to the