had a couple through contract they had a couple different companies come in to see if they could do it and they could not do it so then they came back to the town with the proposal to have a contractor hutchens dig dig up the street for a price of twenty three thousand dollars to actually replace the section or the money that was left in that project though we had about forty three thousand dollars and we opted to and they can live and they gave us a quote of ninety four hundred dollars to do everything to line the whole section of the sewer and cut out the services without digging the street well engineering and to see if there was any money left and there was not any money left in the seventies so this would be an in house project we didn't really need to find money and the budget the capital budget i do know that so i brought a purchase order for the board's consideration if you wanted to authorize the work to be done they are doing a project in essex currently and they were hoping to piggyback this project w know i mean we we actually we were talking to some contractors and they were all talking fifteen thousand or more for excavation then we found out it was actually from our world water association of these guys might be able to actually align it so we had to hire a performer dollars to come up and actually do you can work and test it and they were short us that they can do it so it's it's definitely lose sixteen those dollars marking i live at a two stage broke and there are a number of folks here from state road tonight but top end of state road and we're here because we've just come through a really problem is the gravel we used a few years ago or the fact that it warmed up really fast and the good news is that it was a short much season i couldn't drive down the road for nine days and i just don't think that's really acceptable i'll let the neighbors speak for what they you know what they dealt with but i speaking for myself it was really really bad and i hope we don't have to go through it again and we  know unfortunately this year you know we had a ten or fifteen day window here we didn't get freezing nights and so instead of the frost coming out over a three or four week period chemo or two week period so that didn't help good evening larry bohlen here on behalf of thomas hart closer to the richmond area business association have a long letter here a portion of which i'm going to read to you and i'm going to give you copies of the rest of out to attend tonight's meeting but was not able to make it due to a family conflict however he asked me to share the following thoughts at last monday's slug board meeting we witnessed a major downtown richmond business and be i'm sure during this discussion one select board member mentioned that richmond has a business unfriendly reputation in the aftermath of that meeting several people have contacted robert to recount their own negative administrator select board members and rubber representatives get together soon to settle on a constructive process for getting feedback from across the community as a first  and and both feel that that would be a very good idea of a good time to down and we know that there are some issues with the ordinances so this is the time to look at that and then look at how it's being handled outside that what you know what can we do to give you know there are hands tied now based on where the ordinances are written so looking at that and see how the staff wark our responsibility to deal with some of the issues that haven't the solution might be some counseling or education on the part of people who are applying for permits and and showing in terms of what to expect what are their responsibilities when you when you get a permit this is you should know exactly what you're permitted to do and if you do something outside that you're likely to get a violation that sort of thing so i think it should and there's a give in there that we need to recognize and perhaps improve the process for what do you see as the next step in terms of convening a body to begin this process i think we should probably sit down development committee it seems to me that this issue which at the core of what i would like to see that community do ordinance more business friendly helpful or better yet we want to build a productive constructive manner without some of the stuff that's probably out there that people want to bring up but we need to fix the problem and not aggregate governor and that was a perfect question too because i read that in the paper and that was really took out of my attention as being aggressively not friendly to business not just like inconvenient but like we finally get a guy nationally and we start slamming him with i believe goes up up to some sort of documented website saying that we're going to punish him for testing robots in the parking lot without a permit ar trap waiting to happen to all of your predecessor and i'm on the record now i am was afraid to walk down that ramp at times of day when scofflaws worse getting the stop sign and cutting through because they were sitting a couple  protect that all the walkers by all the kids walking by if you can't protect them because we won't let you and then i'm sure in the town a lawyer would say something like so came so we made him take the barriers out some  really make a statement here to the contemporary business community especially this little technology company there we want them here and we're going to engage them we're not going to like terrorize them and we're going to keep that seat for their two year olds what ask the people who do have the jurisdiction because you're closer to a good idea to send them a letter and say we're not going to fire you were working this out we've got these guys with i'll get these guys involved i want them to next time i talk to him to say to me you know  and when we last spoke we had gotten a price for being able to get high resolution imagery through that project again and next spring  and the price tag for that getting the high resolution imagery was too high for our budget so it didn't make the final cut for the twenty thirteen budget since that time c c r p c has announced that pending never bored to crucial later this month they will cover eighty percent of the cost for all the communities in the county to get the high resolution photography in richmond's case the cost for us to get that will be two thousand dollars i will be what the town would have to pay and so my request this evening is to see whether the slip were approved making that expenditure there are many benefits to getting the high resolution for target fee for planning and other public activities we can use that imagery really effectively and so i would ask that you do have to make make room in the twenty thirteen budget another approach would be to to pay a thousand dollars from twenty thirteen another thousand are committed to the project so they can share that with their board in terms of of planning  and agenda tracks and first reading of the amendment to the park ordinance to allow wine sales at the richmond farmer's market guidelines and we need to use whatever is closest to home to solve the market so that's something that we do anyway but i just don't see it necessary i see it becoming a problem to create put that in ordinance where it doesn't really have to be there on and i also just want to say that we don't have a fifty mile radius requirement for any other product at the farmer's market so to attach that just to one product just want to say that we want to support producers who are making a business out of making something and there's a lot of things that you cannot get in our state borders on reliable supply so any other discussion safety thing and there's a lot of confusion the way the ordinances are written out and the way the signs are posted you have a to beginning of the road so you can't park on the road anywhere you're subject to being t what confuses people i think is somewhere they have these signs that say no parking permit make a six am or where they have those signs to begin with you could park there anyways unless you're parroting at somebody's private property the other part of this is we do have a problem there with safety vehicles getting in and out of there during the warm weather months because they park over there is parking areas that they can park and not be within the travel portion of the highway where it is i think that your land there's parking there which probably only holds if there are small cars probably ten or twelve cars but if you coming from the gorge headed back toward say cochran road there are spots where you can pull up the road there like the pole lots of those will be affected our problem comes in the fact that and some of it's confusion is they see these no parking from midnight to six am and they start parking everywhere and then when we do have an incident like we did july with the gorge and we can't get chief of expiry trucks through there you can't get the ambulance through there the laws are already there it's just confusing now the way the ordinance is written and then we have a hodgepodge of signs everywhere you got signs at the end of the road that says  i don't i'm not sure we can and there are other spots along the road that they can't pull off it's not a really big issue from say the gorge back toward huntington road where most of the people do park further up where they're planning all the little evergreen trees there's enough space so they can get off to the side of the road legally are they within the confines of the highway yes but can we get a fire truck in and listen to lane to traffic normal traffic through the there but i think it just adds more confusion because they see that sign there and they go fifty feet is not a sign there so they think they can park there and they can't because there's no place to pull up to get on the road there so when that there's so many cars around who could get things out and that that's the intent of that is not to stop people from going to the gorge it's not stopping them from parking in areas where they can actually get off the highway so they don't park there and i know he's made complaint to the town highway to fix it because of what they dig up when they do park there and leave the area i don't i'm still sure isn't the right way to go because if you actually look other than this gentleman and his family ninety percent of the people i see there are kids which is great i mean you go to your high school or college and you know the meeting it's a lengthy but very thorough policy was a result of recommendations from the immigrant oh yes perfect so anyone have any comments on that before we take it to a happens there is i believe there's a state regulation where you have to close it down because the number of participants that you have to provide so many police officers for that and that that cost is the events  in town and so oftentimes sheriff's department the sheriff's department will be hired out to do events like i think this document is a really good start there are some things that we should work on so i don't know that one out of darkness and i think it's a really good stereo that we issue is willing you all have the benefit of the final work product from casts before you make a determination on whether or not to appeal will you know the results of their work will you know as i said in my email how much of the difference there are going to advocate for is attributed to vegetation which is still very confusing to me how much of it is due to the bridge issues i just think there are a bunch of questions that the town should ask before an decision is made to actually appeal think one of the thing i'd say is i was talking to dave thomas and i happened to mention this issue it wasn't really aware it was going on that he said kind of like i said i had one thing to say about that about an hour after dave mentioned that to me and i saw it and my jaw just dropped i just it's a very very graphic representation and we all know what happened to waterbury in our brain and to think that nineteen twenty seven was even ten feet higher than the one is just very sobering and i'm sure i was don't understand i just hope the town has really good surface condition and then wire the settling back because it seems to me you know from what someone told me that what we're requiring them to do there is different than what we part you know private developers to do in something that's in every parking lot and it's not only going in buying a car he's now got this used vehicle that that fits in the budget that they've dropped in price to make it fit because there are it's been in business so of course it's not great a tough situation