certain exhibits during the course of the trial the cumulative effect of those in aisles of the evidence house of a person air and specifically there is a district responses to this one too in fifteen were all the journal entries that were made by the petitioner at some point in his life when he was younger but they all related to either deviant sexual thoughts or a sexual fos relating to young people teenagers or children and the court excluded you there on your mention of those exhibits brings me to the motion that you filed to supplement the record the motion you filed today regarding thousand exhibit spread did you have anything request for the record until when about twenty four days after you filed to make notice of appeal i believe that may have been correct so that's the point that you began looking for the no not until i actually received record from from the score that i attempted from this on this court press and with that that would have been i believe it was in mid december of two thousand and fifteen and they were to look at those exhibits at this point so i'm not sure what changed between the first time i asked the shipping master work to search those exhibits and second but i edition to ask mr burke i asked the court security officers search their evidence locker see if they include response exhibit number fifteen though on the record so one two but not fifteen or what part is what part of this this motions for fifteen which is one of those journal entries was made a part tell i got the record i had no reason to believe those were not would not be loaded and so it looks like in the chain of custody that the court security officer who and initially was present for part of the other cases that we've been dealing with today so to receive your motion regarding these exhibits today which by the way on here you're still not here according to our clerk i'm still confused because you say that you know you check their record and realize that difficulty getting the records back from your office you said there were i briefed after being granted a brief extension we asked you to e mail that as well when you took several days after sending your i agree to for the record so are you attached copies of the exhibits that were denied in at the hearing on the house and i simply decide to make another attempt to try to locate the exhibits i went back part time again this time they were able to locate exhibits and that i have with this case and i don't know what your circumstances are but i'm very concerned about the lack of compliance with the rule three eleven this is a serious matter we take the deadlines and the rules that the supreme court has put in place very seriously and given the multiple requests for extensions the failure to do things on time on your part you've put us in a situation where it's  eleven talks about the reporters being required to make this a priority and maybe being taken off other work so that they can do this so i mean what steps did you take that you talk to the trial court with counsel to make sure that this  being done in an orderly fashion to make sure i mean i'm sure you want the best result i am sure you want my decision in this important case in a timely fashion county but that's how long it took them to prepare the transcript of this rather lengthy procedure and so i didn't get the transcripts which i think were about eight hundred pages intil i think was less than a week before the  my initial brief was due and it was simply impossible at that point to be able to provide this court an adequate recitation of facts from the transcripts when when i get a vast number of transcripts within days the da says since the issue of whether or not the response to a sexual abuse that's my child was perhaps the key issue in this case and it's our position that the trial court's refusal to allow this these were statements that were made by the respondent where he stuck and i want to have sex with a sixteen year old cousin he says i must be to crave oh well and that's in response exhibit number one he talks about using a creeping iron and shoving up his ex was not is age how old were the injuries how old were the injuries i think they were probably about twenty years old and there was no evidence that he had actually shot a crimping iron out in the ones of the china is that correct correct but dr was there also evidence that one of the injuries was actually an excerpt from a poem or a song or i can't recall which it was but of some artists that he was truism is now something of a classic in these something parts as i propagated according so he's he's not just reciting that he's agreeing with with that state and how old was pedophile for extended period of time it's not something where you can just decide that i'm going to stop being a part of all the stuff of interest in young children and there was considerable evidence always your position that you testified about that incident where it served her him kissing their daughter and he sensual way there's another e mail which sponsors of a number thirty two where they have responded summarize the conversation that she had with the respondent in march of two thousand and ten where the physician told the respondent i'm at risk for inappropriate sexual zation of my students and my colleagues and so p the minor to reconciling to save the relationship so certainly judge block men had to make some credibility determinations and you know those are resolved against her client would that be a fair statement i don't and that issue i don't think so i think the theory and his theory was that these were all issues that he had passed and despite admitting that wide about a lot of things in those he claims he lied about having this how are we on this cold record to make a better determination as to who's telling the truth as to what really happened than judge a black man who saw and heard from these witnesses how are we supposed to do that why i think that's one issue on relevance to what all three of us have been travelling geez if if a person's has an interest in sexual children or in such a life sexual interest in children that's not a child of the seventeen and she's sixty right but there was also testimony that just walk men do not allow a conversation my client have responded march of the winter of two thousand and ten where he told my client that when he was younger he sexually abused his sister when sister was a child just walked in didn't allow that why do you go so you going out in the woods and fo to hit him on the butt x with a leaf or something like that that's what you're referring to president then he went on to talk about actually that he actually sexually abused his daughter his sister's well i believe so but the best that you know the fact we're already talking about this sexual abuse that if the allegations between august two thousand and fourteen and january two thousand and fifteen when he decides he's going to stop having any contact or visitation with his daughter whatsoever there's multiple allegations of sexual abuse so that that's one aspect that's already in the case we have his own writings where he talks about having sexual addiction about sexualizes daughter about inappropriate centers in appropriately and sensually kissing his daughter so that's  there and for just walking to save the prejudicial effect of these exhibits somehow outweighs that it's probative value when his claim is oh suddenly i just was cured of all these issues i no longer had sexual addiction i was no longer a risk of sexualizing my daughter and all the scientists cured of that that clearly defeats that argument because these are longstanding issues if we're just limiting it to this period of time in tween two thousand and ten two thousand that's one issue but if these are issues go back to his teenage years he suffer from that all since then he can't come into court and say i was a suddenly cured of these issues without counsel without any sort of treatment case because i believe that even if these exhibits had been admitted they would not have changed the decision of judge blackman in this case and i think the judge was correct i'm sure this court review his ruling in this case when han and when the court one of the difficult things that was discussed when we were talking about closing arguments was the fact that if judge blackman awarded custody to my client he in fact would have been taking the child away from a primary caretaker and i think that's always the tough decision in the case but this case more into that decision and i know judges that you have probably reviewed some of the transcript obviously not all of it because as counsel indicated it was around eight hundred pages and when i tried to summarize some of the important parts that were left out of couns the issues in this case and i think that counsel places a lot of emphasis on the evidence that came in that related to e mails that my client had sent to his client basically back in the early part of their  still exploring things and then as a result he mature and now he's in this forty's i think my client was very forthcoming and i think that both dr adams when the judge saw that when he did admit he had had some mental health issues previously and had such treatment for those mental health issues and i thought when judge blackman and i argue in my closing argument that all of the issues and all the problems that really wanted to focus on today was such a you selfish and client it's very disturbing to my client he went through practically a year and i think the court look in here a significant period of time where he did not see his child because of the sexual abuse and from the beginning of this case the original custody case was heard in canada and was subsequently transferred here to champagne county because that's where the parties to live and was seen on had been in canada and had been separated from mr scene since two thousand and ten and while i think that day is important is because that was the date that she really had had no contact with mr b c and except for the brief periods of time that he would travel to canada and see their daughter so therefore and i think i have heard mitt understand that she had no knowledge of any mental health issues or any issues that he had since two thousand and ten when she had or they had attempted reconciliation and i think that was noted in dr adams report there were psychological tests that were taken and dr ablow ten found no mental health issues that would affect his ability to parent sophia and i think that's important dr appleton reviewed so so much supported the elimination and the shared delusion that messina had was so and if we look back even in canada when she was litigated in this case she thought that mr b seen or should have supervised visitation and in january of two thousand and fourteen have the first allegation of sexual abuse which was in canada and after that issue of sexual abuse nothing was done about that and you know and we have to move back to champaign in champaign urbana area in august two thousand and fourteen not soon after that we have our first abuse allegation and that was a temporary team of two thousand and fourteen the two police officers who responded to that call and both of them hacked concerns regarding her mental health time we had officer not who basically said that  needed to seek some treatment for that one was really disturbing to one of the officers was the tape that she had made which was approximately three and a half minutes long and was a tape where and she had been questioning her daughter and basically telling her daughter what to say there were several concerns on that tape and those were espoused that she had done the questioning and she had been the first to have her daughter tell her story after some prompting and even oster admitted that the first person who should interview a child requiring sexual abuse should be a forensic interviewer and not character someone who is not a c and in that interview the minor child to disclose any any abuse allegations there were testimony by then my client that he began to receive multiple attacks and that this time he did not have a night herself stop punching her in the stomach and those text messages with the not about different things that he should not do and blame him for things that were really to be honest with you for a pastor  after that incident of the sexual abuse we then went to a petition to restrict his visitation another and to show her wanting to restrict my client's relationship with the minor child continually nation and supportive of  the shared delusion that she had with her daughter that her daughter had been sexually abused and that we heard back in november of two thousand and fourteen the basis of that mission was the sexual abuse allegation that occurred in september of two thousand and fourteen and also we first heard about mr be seen as alleged sexual abuse tendencies that we heard saying that we heard during the trial just laughing at that time entered months after that summer incident we now have in january the most of the year a few sexual abuse out ation by sophie and that is that her father has taken her to a public place which is his office so have been abused she said when i asked her if it would be appropriate for her to look at the police reports and know when i asked if it would be appropriate for her to review dr she interviewed sophia and did not take her which was one of the criticisms of dr oz good  abused her that she cried and the way she reacted to her father when she had not seen him for seven months inconsistent with someone who had been abused her father the her demeanor changed from levying caring with her father when she saw her mother in the waiting room that was a factor she looked at the fact that mr casino was willing to take the lie detector test s came into her the police report she relied upon the fact that there had got treatment and there had been no mental health issues since that she was aware of since two thousand  mommy plays the doctor and i i'm a child and we pretending you know practice these things we had where my client picture had been taken of know and they did a visual examination and so you picked the boy which was unusually you had been introduced you would be you would remember what that he may have looked like we had the recordings we had even her sometimes incoherent and she went back and forth to different episodes and basically said she was concerned if this anxiety continued that it would in fact her ability to parent so there but does he say you have to save this now but rather it's sort of you know you have problems tell me about them and if you don't talk about them and confess you're not going to get anywhere i think the  concerning i think based on all of the other evidence and the fact that psychological examinations were taken the fact inside treatment the fact that he was upfront with her he signed all the releases to any of his counselors  as of today that can turn her after his ability to parent the child and i think and i think she said when you look at the when you there and a horrible person and i think that it's me says everything and i know it was very difficult for the court to take custody away from a primary caretaker but my client has a good relationship with her i think dr appleton talked about the bond i was the missing is done is stronger than my client's fine but i think there's overwhelming evidence that there is a shared delusion and i think that if you look at the history of emails between the parties during this time period it would be deeply concerning not only to the respondent but to any evaluator in this case and country to would pose in counsel said  she didn't look at a lot of these e mails she said her testimony that respondent sent her a flash drive that contain a lot of materials and she can open it she wasn't aware of a lot of those e mails if you look at those e mails those communications it's all  harvey when did your client say back he knows replied to credit yet these were all e mails saying and what did she said she said i want to get the treatment that you need to be able to participate in your in your daughter's life and it's important to note that he had remedies but he went between the time he obtained custody in july of two thousand and thirteen it only had perhaps about five overnight visitations with this child the five huge prior to this time period basically gave no weight whatsoever to the respect the wishes of the parties which is one of the statutory factors the trial court has to consider it was a significant note that we were basically halfway through the custody hearing where mr gissin testified that it was his request that back and said well i didn't realize that this are my child can be placed with the c f s so up to the commitment of the perceive in all good portion of the way through the proceeding it was his wishes not that he be awarded sole custody like my client wanted it was his wishes th speaks for itself when the petitioner indicated that about the c f s the charming place that you see a passage you indicated there was a recess and judge allotment expressed his concern about that and then went on after that to say that he basically felt that the petitioner was in a situation where he was just trying to preserve his existing family and not be subjected to harassment and repeated allegations out sexual abuse and physical abuse and so he was looking to that as more of a transition period and that you know judge clark who was very clear with him that's not an option and then the petitioner indicated ok now that i understand that yes i