really all about this is linda mike and dylan noble wonder why don't you tell us what family farming really means for you well for me my grandparents my great grandparents were farmers and mike's family was too and so for us says it's just what i grew up doing that's what i wanted to do and i love it may not always be the easiest thing to do in life but a to me in is what my family yes that's where farmers and we're sustainable farmers and where a gag farmers and grass fed farmers and we love working with animals and our family gets work together and mike is it the same for you you grew up on our i i've seen an awful lot of to deal with the you know word survival i've seen so many people fail for me and there's this responsibility that i inherited to to continue my father's farm and to continue on in the things that he attempted to do for his family so deep down inside of me there's this responsibility to be successful along with the pressure of world around me to to be successful in the modern agriculture this continuous bombardment of what we should do to be a successful farm so there's a struggle that goes on in my head every day when and where was it a hard decision for you to stay in farming when things were difficult or was it always something that you know you had to do well there was a time during the farm crisis when our debt was three times what the value of our arm wise and we couldn't borrow money from the bank and we didn't know what to do and i saw her and i were were ready to just give up and i had went to a tour on a farm on the french farm where they were grazing and ten years before i had visited farmers the most modern dairy with all the doodads and the equipment to get high production here he was turning these beautiful holstein cows out onto a field and just letting them eat grass and so it was a big shock to me and we went home and and we couldn't borrow the money to plant our crop or to buy fuel or anything and so we put a fence around the farm and we started in doing it then we later learned later that we had a nutritionally different product and that there were people out there that wanted this for a lot of other reasons we did it out of desperation and how does that make you feel that your son with the consumer and so he's connected he's producing something you know somebody really one where when i grew up by produce something that the buyer would tell me was wrong you know ok we had to fight every day for a price you know and he's growing up in an environment where his his buyer is somebody is very happy with what he's doing so would you say dell and that the st paul farmer's market has had a big impact on on really how you've grown up in this farm family and how you want to continue on yeah i get a kick talking to everybody else there i just love meeting new people and everybody's getting more they're getting smarter about what they need to ask and know what they want to do the fact that we have more media telling him what the modern system is and what they need to do to ask what they want and general do you think that if you're family with a production type farm operation do you think i would have the same draw coming into the family business or do you think maybe you would be looking elsewhere i think things would be a lot different especially on the farm you go a lot of these bigger places and the smell is so strong and out here it's just peaceful it's just gentle and nice  i love it here and at your age a lot of kids are going away from home and getting away from their parents but you seem to really enjoy being around your parents and your parents enjoy being around you when you're working together every day how it's that well it's great a lo educated more along the lines of business education website development but what you're really getting in an education agriculture is really from your parents yes my parents and then people around me who love to talk to the old guys that the v f w because you know they've been through a lot doing they've seen it all and sold i think guys the best form of education is talking to people who have lived it people have been thick and thin through it all and they're still around school and at this point you're probably even teaching your parents a little bit as well as what you're learning you know and trying to teach them more ball more modern forms of art ties in with like advertising on the internet you know i'm rebuilding our website and i'm doing all the new modern web stuff i've learned in school and i'm trying to get dad to computer more and do his records with the computer versus good old paper and pencil but and when do you have a nother generation yet of grandchildren that you're also bringing to the farm and bringing to the st paul farmer's market how is that for you being able to bring the next generation and here and to your business it's just wonderful bringing the grandkids out the farm they love it they love coming out the farm they bag come to the farm i know that i can bring them out here into spiels and they'll be say you know i get bring them out into a feed lot and that so it's fun to see them pick up either the things we do and learning all those different things and i brought them up to the market here a couple weeks ago and they were just like wow this is a big place they understand now where i go on saturdays my grandma's not around and stuff it but it's fun to have them part of our lives and glad that they're close enough that they can be part of our farm and and my son saw st paul farmer's market has really taken your family operation out here one hundred miles south of the twin cities and really brought you into the community of st paul is there a yes yes i feel like when i started the farmer's market because i was never a big city girl i was a country girl and so for me was little scary going up there but once i got up there to the cities and in that market and and building relationships with the other vendors and then our customers it just felt like a small little community and they watched our son grow up and were part of his life and want to know how he was doing and so to me it's just been wonderful experience but the people at the farmers market and the people that come down to support our family farm and the support our farm the work for what we do terrific and so we're all time great things out here at the noble family farm and we thank you so much for having us and thank you again for participating in the st paul farmer's market you're really bringing a valuable product to all of us up there in the twin cities