it's this it seems like it's toll it's taking such a great trilogy and it's so full of the lord of the rings and i was saying when you when you extend something as small on source material as the hobbit was films in it oh yeah i'll take that oh there's a nother extended cut with yeah of course i'll buy that garbage but i mean peter jackson thanks thanks pete you're you're below george on the list but hey you know i find it interesting that they're not really hyping up their the frame rate of this film that was supposed to be one of the one of the scruples about this was that was supposed to be kind of like three frames yeah i will double with with norm is and it's supposed to be at least what they were hoping for a b would be like this would be avatar avatar supposed to launch this huge three d thing whereas that's going to the future of filmmaking and this is supposed to be trying to launch this forty eight frames per second thing which is a lot more expensive and all the reviews i'm seeing about are very heavy or miss with this people are saying especially in something like this like a fantasy world you have all the c g i for backgrounds and it just makes it look more  i think it's going to be in what four hundred theaters six hundred theaters it's some small some small amount of them and i will not go see it in one of those theaters i'm not going to drop an extra ten bucks for me and my two kids to go see that but try it out you know see it works it's really work for avatar maybe less so for the rest of the films that followed it but for me that's also a concern about me because i especially when you're going to be the spearhead for something that you're hoping to catch on why are you using the movie this supposed to be you're supposed to be invested in the story not the spectacle that's going on especially with something as i mean you're stretching out this book there's got to be a lot of story that you're trying to cram in there a lot of exposition i mean it's geared toward the seventh or eighth grader and that's iran in a school similar ellen is much more complex more so than lord of the rings but the source material is narrow i think they almost have to do something else to hype it up or put something else out there  i think actor choice brilliant thinking is fantastic certainly a lot of hype with what he did with sherlock lately and jumping through a lot of mean we've talked about that it was brilliant but i don't know now quite maybe amiss here but i thought what the stupid movie the fourth the twilight fifth twilight was going to be a train wreck and very wrong there when i feel like the fellowship of the ring was something that was a spectacle of all i had to see i  return of the king is as good until that last forty five minutes where they stretch now four and two minutes of story over this slow mo escapade of hobbits jumping on beds and hugging i mean it's yeah it's painfully silly i remember in the theater being in front of people who just started laughing at it because it seemed so dopey and that's the one that wins the best picture i don't necessarily think it was because it was best picture that year i think it was that you know here you go there you go to job spectacle here we you got absolutely i think fellowship can or should have one i think to tolerate towers can or should have one and again my personal opinion here i don't think return of the king was as good a film as a package sorry too much aside now that's that's what the show what else it should be called assign a host the size media do you think about this actually on the way in today i was thinking about i got that on the e mail yes i was thinking about books translated movies there's a whole age old question of whether books can translate properly in weather story form but i'm certain i think it was thinking you know what's confusing me about the hobbit the fact it's going to be nine hours you know probably one time before the director's extended right and before becomes twelve hours but i felt like even with the lord of the rings i felt like that you know so many movies now can tell a great epic story in two and a half hours and you can get through that journey and you're fine and i and books i get it you know a book can be a thousand pages could be five hundred pages be two hundred pages and you c through a pretty big journey but you don't really think about how long or short that is do you think that that is or is it just me and i just i mean i felt like the end of watching lord of the rings the only good thing about it being that long was that when the characters were tired at the end where it was your shot looks awesome and i thought ok you know that that makes sense but i don't know is it there is it because the movie medium you know we're used to seeing these great huge stories and they're  told and into an after hours you don't need necessarily the nine hours the twelve hours to tell because you're and i know the journey is part of it but i look at like these serialized kind of things like the harry potter series where you're kind of time i mean there is there is a big story audience we're tired you know where we we don't need necessarily these these long important epics to make them come across a line oh i have tons to say i've never shut up over i think yes and no i mean absolutely there is a lot to be told in film and there's always more story to be told as it always necessary now i'm reminded particularly cynical students who look at something that they don't li and say well here's what happens he gets the rang he goes out destroys the ring the end i mean that's you could tell the story in five seconds as long as it keeps adding to the story then it's great to add it but when it gets to the point where we're just hyper extending for no reason then that's a problem and i think that can be a book i think that can be a movie that could be a fifteen minute episode of bugs bunny i mean if you're carrying on too long with something that's boring your audience then no it's not good and unfortunately that's only known by an audience can't be known by actors or directors or editors for any body the only people who can determine that are the audience members themselves put in front i think i think the problem can be especially when we're comparing the book to a movie as far as the media is concerned the book is very personalized where as i'm reading a book i can stop whenever i want i can pick it up whenever i want to be as long as it is as long as i like you said the missions still compelling whereas a movie i have you don't have to watch in one sitting brisson tended to be watching you and sitting there so you have my attention span should be a lot smaller as far as when i'm watching move because that's all i have to be sitting here for the three hours to get the like shawshank redemption and stuff like that was in the midst of a book short story short story or something like that whereas it's an epic movie but it's not and i think the generalized term as far as like it's not like like people can call transformers be ok but i mean that's the thing when you're doing a movie and you say i'm reading an action sequence in a book it's a lot different than showing on the screen where's that is the selling point that's our money maker to get people to come in for a trailer and from the trailer so they have to draw those kind of scenes or build those kind of scenes up and that's what gives you the emotional rollercoaster where that's how they be in the pick and choose what's important i think if you look at film and something as you know bounce through my brain as you're talking is this concern has been around forever i mean let's go back sixty seventy to look at something like lawrence of arabia look at something like ben hur and these are gone hell a new but three and a half four hour films and still i would say revered for the most part appreciated  while not necessarily without dull moments certainly those are pinnacles of filmmaking gone with the wind is another lengthy example and then there's this  pitching a film over the last fifty sixty years until some time in the eighty's where the standard of a film became ninety minutes and now we're expanding again into your avatars and lord of the rings isn't it to a great extent star wars are all to our films that opening up again or reopening in goodness gracious with home video and director's cuts of hyperextension and branching and all that mean there's a billion things can watch by the way not to make fun of you but i do only director's extended version of the second transformers film only available at walmart i think hunted it down if you're wondering that flaming tur nothing says the holidays quite like bad photos so transition yeah twitter has just had an update this past monday where which now allows him to have filters if you know if your you want to use instagram that's the only way you could ruin photos now that another way you can do it inside it's winter and what's what's interesting about that is this comes just a week after king right now and i think we're where we're slowly each company is making mistakes in this regard as far as the reason that they are both so successful right now and popular is because they do one thing very well twitter is the king of their little hundred forty character yeah and instagram is or was the king of their their their photo stream they have some social networks and now they're not letting each other co existing either one person has to be flushed and i feel like i do if they feel i don't i don't know i don't know why somebody would be posting their photos on instagram and twitter on separate locations you think i'm going to pick and choose one of the other and i think people will and i think the demand will determine what that is now what i don't know is an i'm asking because i truly am not an idea here did instagram kill off the twitter support or to take away support of instagram well that's it's at this point in time it is instagram pulling the plug on twitter but this goes back to twitter has been really in the last year has been kind of cutting off access to everybody that's they may have been jumping ahead of that stream and i mean if twitter does something along the lines of just we're done with that then they may not have that support and just kill themselves they may be sort of trying to jump ahead of that to get to survive mode i mean my guess is one will survive longer than the other mean i don't think either medium is you know going to be around in thirty five years outside of the hands of or the  cameras in this room i mean it's technology's going to shorter and shorter lifespan i mean you know nobody buys digital cassettes anymore or l p s for that matter even though l p s are still pretty big grazier is still out there and it's going to have some but that support will wane and disappear when younger people get on and they start saying this is what my mom uses for somebody else they're going to die and i think they're trying to survive as long as possible well i want to have part of this has to do with you know instagram is so closely aligned with facebook right now on facebook and twitter hate each other for the most part i mean they're kind of balance for for supremacy even though they don't really do exactly the same thing but i mean just the basic idea i think is is not that not that i care about photo filters and running photos but i feel this is always a bad thing for technology in that you know you shouldn't have to it's it's a better thing for the consumer when these services are  degree but then you look at the king or success behind all of that and apple has done it brilliantly i mean people buy music on i tunes and that's a proprietary thing working with  player and an apple product and certainly i can buy generic versions on amazon or because walmart even sell and be threes and more i know they did for a while i certainly have not bought m three s from walmart dot com i bought some amazon things in extreme scenarios but i'm buying my digital music on i tunes and i'm buying my digital player from an apple store i mean but no zunes are out there anymore but that being said you can still play it's mean you can get i tunes in any church you know any platform so it's not but i'm still using an apple player to play that the ones i purchase are still proprietary until i put them on cd or burn them out or change them something else write them for a players are still exclusive players on well i mean there's ways and they're there to your conversion tools in get out of that but how many digital songs have you bought through i tunes and how many digital the talks about they said you know this was kind of to calm the fears of these privacy changes they were making and they said we're open to a vote of all our facebook users and the brilliance of it my fair part of it is i mean guys are all of a crunch and they all know what to do and yeah and somebody i'm sure somebody at a meeting said mark if we do this vote let's get rid of this phone let's call it let's say only thirty percent oh to say only thirty percent of our users have to vote and then it becomes a binding thing so facebook has had i think this they had to vote people to vote the first time they had point zero zero three percent of the vote or bombs or point zero eight percent and then the second time was a point zero zero three percent of their entire user base and then this so then they decided we're going to vote to end our voting but and if people don't vote then it's all going to go away and so what i'm up happening was they just had a vote they had very low ties to they had when i logged in i saw that they were facebook users they had a voter turnout of point zero point zero six seven percent so now facebook can go back to the old days and in the privacy changes without any growth and when they don't get exponential growth they start playing these dumb games to get sales or revenue or more protests and they start manipulating i mean facebook is a free service that they've allowed us to use collecting data from  and the data they're collecting is starting to be questionable the information they're distributing is starting to be messy so they're just going to shop around as we go to great whatever that's the reason i'm not getting on facebook is much more of all of its products at the end of this past year so what does that mean then for next year are they going to do stuff in the spring slimmer the smaller there's no way i'm thinking there's no way apple is going to go an entire units who three quarters of the year without a new product does the signal the beginning of apple now releasing two version you know a spring new product and then a falling product and we just saw it with the i pad where they had you know i proud macro is this something i mean are we ready for apple to be is that can that harm because the thing about apple being the status symbol of carrying it is i have the latest thing now of the latest thing you buy is instead of being you know it took a year before it was no longer the cool new thing now it's going to be six months or four months from this harm apple in any way is this i can i can see it having a negative effect on sales slightly in your new i pad each year that kind of thing i don't i don't see it this year was an exception this was more of a coasting year i think i don't know they have to play catch up now with with windows coming back the big the other big boys entering the market well i think that was a fail i think the windows hype i've seen as benefield things we alluded in the past the what if happens it didn't happen and again january is probably going to be the real telltale of it not only the christmas shopping season but also the final outlay of all that stuff  but i don't know i mean my feeling is and this is my gut that the sales didn't keep up with where they were and the products that they've introduced siri for example did not fall along that general hype or interest of it and so they are putting out things more to get onto those reliable users or as i term them suckers who have to buy those updates every time and i think those people are going to get upset with that eventually and not necessarily jump also are often comparing apple to the market not apple to android or apple to windows we're comparing them to everybody else so if one person and everybody else comes out with a new product an apple doesn't then it's like oh it happens behind but i just means that they're not the forefront and and every single one of those categories i think when they get there though that will not break them that's not the right way to put it but it will break open the market for everyone else when that new product comes there and i have to say i know bond i's a fan of the galaxy as a galaxy but i think that's real close i think it's on that cusp of making it and i think those commercials are doing a pretty darn good job of saying or hold on there might be something else out there i totally agree with that as well but i still think we're looking a little a little too narrowly at it whereas i mean apple has their their computers has the they're going up against all these other companies i would say for the last part they're winning right right now at the same time rushing there at the same time let's say i am going to stay i'm googling the united states there crushing their phones yes but i would say in computers i think they're not crushing their opponents and probably not winning i mean certainly with the cool factor or the new factor they're certainly not in the business they're not they're not selling more but m p three players i mean i would be stunned if the entire rest of the industry combined had fifteen percent of the because i said you know samsung has to sell for five devices for every one that apple does today to make that same couple were willing to pay that money for it we're happy to ecstatic there's so there's rumors that surface the windows surface tablet this to slow sluggish sales although i don't know if that may have just been the plan all along to try to push these markets off stores and give them exclusivity for you know two months three months and then move on from there users don't get me a computer don't use a computer here you go here's your tablet instead you're staring in the right and that's that will take it with you that will be the one thing but i don't know if we're going to do that i mean i think they've missed out this was the christmas to kill