five places in two months you're asking a question and then charts at the first words is there anything in the large that if this is twenty five times the twenty five tab searches applications is insufficient as a matter of  me what do you do now well occasionally i write down to the gas station or my girlfriend to get out of the house they haven't proven that he needs it i would benefit from it by an unsuccessful attempt without professional help tried for a while family just stopped after two months and another five months no activity so we don't think they proved it that way they certainly haven't proven it by any expert testimony that given his age his physical abilities  his training and experience and that he would benefit from vocational rehabilitation so we've another factor on this is that the court has also offered or the commission has already also order additional medical treatment so even if they had proven that at some point he was kind of either it would be premature because there's no telling what his condition is going to be different when he gets this additional medical treatment another issue is the commission overruled the arbitrator found that the blowback condition is related to the accident we feel that is contrary to the manifest way of the evidence and should be reversed on february twenty  eleven petitioner introduced right play who treated by dr fast and through july sixth of twenty eleven at which time he was released p r a out the back complaints did not start until january twenty twelfth over ten months after the altered gait could cause back pain then larry only says i think it contributed to it i thought first of all he doesn't know what the back official here only knows him as making back complaints secondly there is no evidence that he knows how much walking he was  opinion is flawed based on a minimal information he had as to the petitioners activities we think his opinion that it's worse is sheer speculation that could have  i presume you could do it if it was really clear what the final condition would be but i think as a general rule it would be premature because like you if you're just starting something but what if you  to at this point another error we believe is the medical treatment for the low back i think that to a large degree will stand or fall on your ruling as to whether or not go back was his ability to function in the heavy physical demand level give me a september twenty six every viewing they have see dr bassman to release them to return to full duty work but that's more going to get into a little bit of the list here yes he did but didn't explicitly say it was condition we're going to try and see if it would work that is a little different than full duty without restrictions i was looking at that when i was sitting back here to claim a testified released a full later on so i think the commission read too much into the record where they interpret it as a conditional if they did and i think they read too much into it at that point it is i looked at again it looks to me like posttraumatic your general visa disease in his knee and his limited range of motion he has significant and progressive degenerate changes as a result of the traumatic effect and i agree at some point that he'll need a total knee arthritis  predominant prevailing in the army from missouri is and in illinois of course it's a cause for any cause so that's basically how he treated this so that the commission had on one of one hand the opinion of dr bassman that it contributes and is is a cause and no opinion on the other side and to just suggest that that conclusion of the commission was contrary to the manifest weight of the evidence doesn't really make any sense quite frankly with respect to the other issues life a laborer by trade did his best to try to find alternative employment couldn't consulted a free agency that helps look people look for work they were unable to find anything for him but not an educated he and in the report it said that the that fisher would need frequent breaks you know because of the pain and the instability of this in the try and see what it is but has exactly what the idea was trying to return to work and  probably the most significant thing from that is that he returned or a camper on this on a certain date after he was released and and instead of returning him to his regular job working with trust as they put him in the office where he worked a few hours and at the end of the day they fired him because he had a trace amount of marijuana in his system at the time the original accident so he never did get the chance to to try to work in his regular job then he tried roofing which was his other profession whether he was thinking in the back of his mind we'll see how this works and not it doesn't alter the fact that it was a photo of you release it may have some effect on what his conclusion was later on but i don't think it al