if we multiply that number by the by the four years that are involved we end up with us six thousand nine hundred eighty apprenticeship wage rates they have been created  medical benefits to be paid for the employee pension contributions made in of course in a pressure training contribution and that instant state of california has reserved for it's our right to determine whether  that let's say the in the locality they go and they check and they find out the collective bargaining agreement is way below the prevailing rate in and it's the only likely barney room in the area all these is what happens in reality i'm asking what happens in my special unique world in the special unique world is not the real world and in in my special world there are a thousand carpenters as a practical matter these rates are set by collective bargaining agreements period that's what happens in the real world well in the real world yes we often are set according to he said they ourselves had period he says as a matter of fact it's private employers of eight hundred private employers are paying their people somewhere between eighty and one hundred dollars an moral right except by twelve to bargaining agreement then under state law you have to do all collective bargaining agreement that's not the case in all circumstances though first i would point out of ac that it's a practical matter is the case in all circumstances because any private employers are going to be scattered and the collective bargaining agreements are going to unify a number say two hundred people in my example three hundred people will all get the same rate so that bill as a matter of fact always establish a v rated gets used because even though the others are higher or lower or so they're scattered so there aren't too many people but they're all saying immediately there are a hundred people who are all getting a higher rate of pay one unionized you can be very lightly used as as long as long as you have the biggest block getting the same number same pattern as well so you could have only five percent of the workforce unionized but if that five percent is getting the director should be doing now the other feature of this case need to be understood is that we have the fitzgerald that under federal law which provides a clear congressional statement of intent that the state  case where under the n r a for the public works the california regulation of minimum wages of health saying first of all that under the fitzgerald asked that provides a clear expression of  but what has happened is that the public works has not checked the public works regulation has not changed at all what's happened is private works at the time was that by reference to the federal poverty wage right now what private wor is doing for registered apprentices is looking to crew veiling wages in very similar fashion to what you do for public works and so they don't have to announce their should apply equally to the private works tha make the same rate now i've given you an example where that's an example where the same rate is not true in majority of workers they would say you adopt the rate of two hundred that's not a majority rate at all  court expressly declined to rule on that that distinction in finding the provision not preempted the state was trying to argue that boston harbor proprietary doctrine applied that and all are in normal and a