governor mike pence on last week and we talked about cutting business property taxes you know it's a big one that's a huge one because it costs what does a billion dollars ok over the in lake county would get seventy four million dollars l a lot of that go to the schools lot of that going to the municipalities and basically what that means if you have a machine on your property and your business you have to pay taxes on that governor mike pence is arguing that that is anti competitive that some of the states around us don't have that and he wants to get rid of it completely looks like in the end it will be addressed and maybe it'll phase out or just be whatever at some point they're going to address that talk about starving local government saying the governor got his way how much seventy four million to where lake county seventy four million who has that seventy four million lake county part of it's cost schools you know when somebody can tell me and break all that out and tell me where that money goes and what it's currently used for then let's talk but you know what this global thing is going oh my goodness we're going to starve everybody you know really i don't think so is no way they just pay the five people past the local option income tax these no way everybody's getting a raise i mean i mean unless you specifically look at how the dollars i mean in in public sector stuff it's a little different because you have a dollar that's for roads you can't use it for parks if you have as you know and there's certain laws that are applicable to those budgets that you have to adhere to which you know i understand it makes it a little more complex but you know what just saying globally this is an issue and you know we're all going to starve and this is the reason why everything is going to hell in a hand basket i throw a red flag no way the  issue with this would be that a number of local governments and school districts would get less money ok then has to be somewhat part of the part of the equation and i think what's happening here is that if indeed this were to go through in our legislature this time around it would have one of the larger long term effects of anything that's come out of there in a while and this is why because what they're really doing shifting the burden a to the individual that would have to pay the taxes around here and be they would they would be shifting it to the local municipalities we've got to look at it from around here lot of people here feel like  a lot of people here feel like i we send our money down there and then they use all our money and then give us just a little bit back ok so in a in a weird way it would even filter through indianapolis at that point you'd have less on your business individuals would have to pick it up but the money would be taxed here and would stay here so in other words each community would have to have a local option income tax of its own words lake county would have to go from one and a half to three or four percent but the businesses would save a ton of money so would shift to the individual but one of the positive offshoots would be that the money would have to go through indianapolis i mean really let's just fire the defensive coordinator and then that will solve the problem i mean that's not the issue i mean the issue from the standpoint is where is the money and what are they doing with what they have now and if they're going to raise it from one and a half to three which you know let's be no straight on this it's coming i don't know when but it's come and if they have it they're raising it so if you do well that's fine then why don't you go ahead and implement something that's going to show the people of the community that you're being efficient with those dollars implement kernan shepherd raise it to four percent and implement kernan shepherd let's see what happens from that perspective but it's not it's let's keep raising to maintain the status quo and i need to know something from you you pay more attention to this stuff now than i do on a daily basis with all of the infomercials that come through this joint i mean and you even said it to me it was during the river show once i mean the good local development tool for our community then just call it i want to hear somebody come out and say you know what we want to have as many people possible working for local government k the reason that comes up is bill baker is the head of a board that has six million dollars a year coming through it and he's got two employees he's got dan repay and an assistant to dan repay and sandy dan repay and sandy and i joke that you know i got a couple relatives out of work i mean when you start hiring a bunch of you know people listening they're calling in the radio show i mean you think it's funny but you know that's just perpetuating the same thought process of everybody living north of ridge road and working at the mill hey you know what you got money you need to hire a bunch of people you know what then you have some control now those people go out and you know they're advocating for what you're doing i'm like wait a minute i get it but that's not the efficiency you think it's funny just because i get so fired up about it but i mean it's to the point where it's really a fundamental challenge for our community that i think nobody wants to address i think we want to just have government be as big as possible because we want to hire your relatives so they have a job that has obscene bennies you know and that's fine but do what's  irony there or maybe a soft comedy to it in that what has happened with what you do is exactly what a lot of the powers that be around here did not want to happen which would be to come in here and take a lot of the this stream of money and to keep it out of political hands and out of power brokers hands and and not allow a bunch of patronage to be created because to some extent it's an example of how things could be run and coup breakdown the existing folks that have a ton of power and hire a bunch of people so interesting well it is interesting but it's still funny but hey mark  taxes so in reality they should get a couple bucks back every time it's oh it's because they're paying taxes for the city or town partners know what they're not getting that service what a great what a great statement in my opinion i mean if you live on calumet avenue or indianapolis boulevard in or have a business do you really care what color the truck is that plows the snow i don't think you really do but do they pay the same amount of money in taxes that everybody else does i would say they do so i mean he has a good point i mean the consistency isn't there and it's like let's let's point fingers i mean we all live here in the inner local agreement is such a great tool i'm sure there's some work into it and we're going to you know because it's government it's going to take five years to work it out because we've got to pay consultants and you know attorneys in you know we have to go through you know seven hundred public hearings but i mean what the hell here let's just do it and try to be efficient and instead of looking at how we're going to try to get into this is you know within the current political structure let's focus on results and have it papered in a way that delivers the results in a timely manner