chairman members of the board my name is keith miller from miller design and i'm here today representing my clients triangle and anyang from twenty two void road since we were last together we looked back multiple times at the previous meetings that we've had together to try to look at the overall massing and scale of the building and the height and reduce it even further from where are we last were to that end and take note from the last meeting we reduce the additional roof lines  the house we pulled back the entire second floor that was extending over the setback line so we're now that second special permit for the setback line for the second floor expansion we've removed the need from that for the most part  we've reduced the gross area down to a forty one percent increase from where we started out i think it was seventy six percent when we first met with you we further reduce the roof height from twenty eight eleven down to twenty seven eleven we've reconfigured to reduce the size and shape of the windows on the front facade of the building and we've moved the board about in detail and that was on the original or the second third iteration of the project so our hope is that with those reductions where we're getting to the point where we have now we're down are we have a four bedrooms which is the goal of my clients is they really want those four upstairs bedrooms and that's where we are i know that there's been a couple of additional letters of support that have come in from the neighbors and there's some others people here that want to speak so i can you know if you'd like to go on like we're trying to project we're trying to yes we'd like to be able to project so that essentially now it's you know a mid mid century colonial with the added feature on the front of the gable end which has to do with the patrician that it's on the existing footprint of the building we'd like to see the changes i understand i have just a question about the plans  these are the revised plan correct yes they are i apologize would you walk us through and show us what changed on the revised plan sure so if you're looking at the bottom image up on the board we reduce obviously we reduce the height of the building by a foot so it's a far lower than it was the last presentation on the right side of the plan at the second floor we've pulled it back there is a dash line in your sets of plans on the planet shows where the setback line is so we've pulled the second floor living space behind that line so that there's nothing is putting over that side close to that neighbor we pulled back the rakes on the roof we had the house currently has like two foot rakes around the first floor so the rate as it sits on the first floors the same as the current but the rake on the side of the second floor is now just a trim element it's about two or three inches from the face of the facade we removed the board in baton detailing from the peak of the gable and we changed the window configurations on the front of the house to be more in line with the kind of mid century modern approach so we got rid of the large picture window on the side elevation which is the top drawing you can see where the roof appears at the midpoint of the elevation and that roof enables us to set back the upper floor so that we're not over that setback line and that ties into the gable end on the front elevation on the plan you can see on the other side with a better number for the smaller better has down to about nine foot one inches and that was in order to accommodate pulling back pad back past the setback line so we're not we're not overhanging  and on the rear elevation you can see where the one side we have a little roof detail in the left hand side of the bottom drawing that's again to accommodate the setback second floor so there's obviously some structural work and significant structural changes to accommodate that but it gets it back past that line again the whole roof is a follower and on the right hand side we added some more small windows which is one of the comments that came up during our last meeting and then we move removed all the extra roof lines that were there so there were some lower level roof lines kind of tutor ask if you will that have been removed and that's one of the elevations question i have is the question i have is really pretty simple i just that we get the run elevation unfortunately you can't really every because the model down so i can show them what i'm of i don't i don't understand what the bump out is it looks like the second story is extending it's not that might just be a line there are there is it to second floor does not come forward so here is where it shows up in the but the front facade is flat at that location there's no intended bump outright but i'm saying i still don't understand why this wall here goes out further then well but you are you're extending the i don't know why this this this wall line doesn't line up with the bottom line is it right effect is on the back it looks like it's the same thing so we're building it on top of the existing foundational on that side of the wall that separates the garage from the house again i don't think there are there are details here that don't make any sense to me i can see that i see the how it's felt so that you can better understand it but as long as you're lining up with the existing yeah we're absolutely i would with our intention is to use as much of the existing footings as possible so yeah right that's that answers the question that's correct right and so it looks like a shifting over but in fact it's got it on the on the because the garage sticks out yeah sometimes three d would be nice  microphone and let me open up by the other questions on this from the public via butter's or anyone do you have comments on the on the changed design at this point but anybody like to speak this is the time to speak seventy five shot road live next door as one thank the board for all your attention to this project we we still think it's too big and too little too high they they came down to one foot from the last twenty eight feet now which is basically twenty seven twenty eight is what your house is ok with so it's about the same height as most of the so what is the petition for now as far as the variance to looking for a meet if they don't have those special permit we're footage of this point now it's the square footage and it's basically the size the bulk of the bill in what's the drop in square footage from what i asked what you drop keith from when you first proposed it  no no what you gross that's more than half right one half i guess  this big but as much bigger as it is that we have new calculations on that spencer i didn't i didn't see any don't you i'm just trying to get a good one make sure buddy can hear me thank you so i did some quick math before i came over just because i thought that might be one of the questions that was going to be asked so the existing home gross area which is how we measured it to get to the thirty percent to get here is two thousand two hundred twelve grow square feet for the house  are adding you know we are adding that nine hundred and thirteen square feet to the house which is just over they are by right they could add six hundred sixty four square feet to the house so essentially their second floor right now is about four hundred square feet of second floor space so when they add that sixty four they're about one thousand and sixty currently in the plans we are showing i think it's twelve hundred and sixty square feet on the second floor so yes it is big it's big to start with they can get it big by right we're really talking about ten percent at this point they want four bedrooms upstairs that's been their goal all along they've really you know we've reduced all that we've come a long way from where we comments from would you come would you come on come on over to the microphone and forward introduce yourself and ask your question and fanning next door neighbor what was the total square footage did you say in the house you know the total that you're planning twenty nine twenty ok ok so what was that what was that before ok for you introduce yourself and ask your question i'm eric has had a sign at eighty six sharp road and i'm just coming in support of the project i'm in favor of improving generally and i think that this as it looks perhaps before was outside and i know there are some others in the neighborhood are quite large but this i think doesn't look outsized to me and i'm in favor of it apartment a three bedroom house i walk ins and they work with a lot i see many different styles of houses so my really be so have special style special shapes  from that these i'm also use hoss i don't think c r comparable was those so called big houses in the neighborhood at all i think well i happen to be here in the first here in fo joy road but i just want to say that i think that when people build structures in the town they should go by whatever the current rules are and those will change and i think that's the way it should should stay also the other thing i would like to ask about is is there a landscape i know when they do commercial buildings in the town they look at the landscape and and obviously it's been rented for the past year and not much has been done on the landscape so i don't know if that's part of the project but but it's change in the streets all five of the older five houses most likely go in this direction and it will be a very big mall if you look at the whole the whole streets and that this this steve got another audience oh please please come up with him sullivan i live across the street as you know where our frustration is there's no clear definition of this of this livable area or how to cover it that so we talk to our neighbors to as as us you know hear from understanding from most of them so some of them mean that they cannot come here so to support us but tell you know i really want i appreciate this time and this effort you know for for my wife for me to read it while you know  and she said i feel for the family of twenty two how the road and i'm disappointed that the time neighbors have made these so difficult for a family to moving to the time to bring housing structure to have to modern times especially one that is accommodating their family needs and house of reasonable proposed design and should really hope that this got approved and another neighbor from thirty eight livermore is also three houses down the road and he said i have no concern with are designed to renovate their homes i really in the neighborhood and to upgrade their home to feed their families needs and i really appreciate the county knew their efforts made by trying to want to come in the camp with the neighbors and to modify the designed to accommodate the staff at community development and for the planning board applicants come to an architect in the arctic makes recommendations does the best gear she can to interpret what the  with the applicant and the applicant wants a certain house they push the architect to build to design something that suits their needs they come to community development and community development says well ok we've got this code issue in this code issue we're going to have to go for a special permit and by the way the design when it comes to the planning board in this case is going to be problematic but the applicants and sometimes the architects think that rather than listen to community development this is where it's frustrating for community development because they're advising and voicing the experience of the planning board the applicants come to the playing board with a house that's really quite large very big board here is the application we understand about improving neighborhood we understand about having neighbors come and tell us that they are in favor of this we also understand about neighbors coming and saying that it's too big we weren't we're we're here to help you try to improve your home in a way that is consistent with the law and that's why you think because your initial design was not consistent immediately with the law you have to ask for a special permit so we're trying to help you get to a spot we don't have any animosity any concerns about your living here and improving your home the trick is to do it in a way that's consistent with the rest of the town right so we come to a meeting and we hear the  we have have had two or three days to look at it we try to give you the best feedback we can but it's hard on the fly in front of television camera in front of an audience just having heard the presentation to give you a complete set of advice so you go back and we say try to fix this and this and and so you then start reading the tea leaves of well what did they say and what did they do in the past and is this consistent with what the board's done before and then you sort of start litigating it with community development and you come back with something that's much smaller and you tell us how much you've reduced project you still not focusing on the problem that it's  right that's that's an issue so you come back and we hear what you have to send we try to give you the best feedback we can and we try to get that feedback to use through community development and then you come back to us and it's now you've you've  solved one two issues the height is is fine i think the height is great the getting away from the setback solves it's the real zoning issue by not increasing setback that's fine but the house is still really too big and you've asked us to be consistent in our role and so i went back and looked at a few other decisions that we made was one of them was it twenty two bacon and twenty two bacon the applicant reduced  three bedroom upstairs took away some of the bulk on that and made the fourth bedroom downstairs something that would fit very well and they now have a four bedroom home that is going to allow reflect access for their elderly parents from the first floor once they get to the point where they're not going to be able to climb stairs anymore so they've got three up stairs for the immediate family and one downstairs that's that's a perfectly fine house that's a good solution to the problem of wanting four bedrooms you now have basically i read this as a five bedroom it's got three full baths and a full bedroom downstairs you calling it an office at room i understand i don't understand why the office couldn't go in the base and why that office couldn't be the downstairs bedroom for the parents and put three bedrooms upstairs that would help you get to the reducing of the ball it would improve the house it would expand it considerably it would give you four full bedrooms i'm baffled so you know we keep going through this dance back and forth and we're still hearing from neighbors and we're hearing positive but we're also hearing from neighbors that are a butters the ones who live right next door who are saying this is too big and they're not saying that you can improve your house they're not against you they don't want you to move away they want you to live for we all want you to here this is not the issue that she was trying to get you're trying to squeeze a big house onto a small lot and we're trying to help you get there you're almost there i think you're all you're very close to being i just i'm having trouble trouble with the fact that it's got a lot of it's bigger than the house at twenty two bacon it isn't now we drew that one one back i know you did i'm so the house of a can is over thirty feet tall start than that but it's on a it's on a bigger lot and is next to two houses that are also that height there also may ranch houses around trying to bail you know there are absolutely so so to be honest when we started the project twenty to make it was in our house going through this process so we started with some of their initial goals which we said ok well this is what you've got approved over here so let's get closer to what just was approved over a twenty to bake and we've got it down to that you know that they have attic space of twenty to bake and they have nine foot ceilings they've got a lot of things that that my clients have already sacrificed i think something that's that's really important to note here is in the grand scheme of things by right were two hundred fifty six gross square feet off of what they could build by right if they removed their screen in porch there  hundred forty square feet off is in the grand scheme of the bulk of the building if i pull the back i'll of asian in a foot or two feet you know that doesn't change anything from the streetscape makes the house awkward and costly from a structural standpoint but but then they're going to get their nine foot ceilings back and are going to get attic space back and they're going to be able to do it by right so i think it's important for i understand the size and we did reduce from what we initially asked for by almost fifty  percent and you know we're down we have one when the upstairs bedroom is nine feet and i think your comment about a basement office they work from home i don't think anybody here wants to work out of a basement office and i don't i doubt any of the board does either and they do work from home so really making my  business look bad the last time i did pretty well you enjoy it that's the question would you rather have i mean retired so i don't well they don't want to work in the basement i don't think anybody really does so so i'm just i'm just pointing out that there comes a point there are only like i said ten percent over what they're allowed to do by right where if they reduce it much more they can get all the ceilings i think they're really trying to come halfway to they're not going to build the cape i know the cape's been suggested many times the planning  suggested to us the cape they could build by right they can only get three bedrooms upstairs and a cape with eaves and all the bedrooms and and actually the roof on the cape would be higher than what it is now because of the width of the building in the pitch of the roof so they're not interested in doing so now they built this colonial and they tried to reduce that massive because it's a it was a ranch and it has that front piece how do you address that and make it look consistent and not an awkward shed roof on it or something like that that doesn't belong on the front of the house so we've really  colonials around except it's got that piece on the front and it just by the nature of what was built that's what's there so you know i hear it's too big but from the street it's very similar from if you're seeing part of the house looking at the street the other houses yes it does go back further and a lot but i'll point out that you know one of the things that came up when we had the neighborhood meeting one of the neighbors had asked why would you do a first floor addition and they can't be in the neighborhood on a first floor addition and said well we did the first quarter for our extra space you guys could do the same is absolutely necessary so we're really we've come a long way and i think you guys have recognized that but we're hoping that the couple of neighbors that have had the issue that they have to move a little bit to it can't just be giving and have with this process you know and i we had that with spencer and i think some of so some of it is you know used to be somewhat of a vehicle of communication with the board which is extremely helpful for me as a designer  understand the of state laws and how all that works and that it's an important open meeting forms are very important so that's why we're here but at the same time we've also had you know we've tried a couple times to bring some things to the neighbors neighbors haven't been available you know they've gone to the neighbors more times than any client i've ever worked with to try to show them what they've done show the changes they made ask for support and they've gotten signatures letter support from the majority of the neighborhood now i get the ones that i'm a neighbor to unfortunately haven't seen those one sorry well they're there they're forwarded over to community development so again i i applaud the effort that done here and i have a lot more favorably inclined than i have been up to now i don't know that there's much room i don't know if you have any room to move i mean what what do what you could do what i guess what i'd like to do i'd like to think about it a little bit more honestly i hate to to to make this drag out another couple of weeks i don't think that's going to change a construction schedule that much i know that you've been here three times i think i'd like to give a little bit more time for the neighbors who are having trouble have a look at the plans that are fought there up online now and then respond there i'm i'm in agreement that the that the the design looks good i mean the the design work is it's just fine right now it looks like a house that ought to be in belmont the height is just fine the problem is what to do with all of that bull it's just a big pla and we need some time i think i'd like a little bit of time and i think that's that's the point of that's the point of the frustration that i'm having is that we we get the new plan and we don't really have a chance to to just think on it for a little bit and what i've learned is that i go home and after a few hours of thinking about what the comments were and about what your presentation was and what your neighbors and others are i think i do change my mind over time and i'd like a little bit more time to think about it but i think i may just comment on steve is really telling is he sed he's not telling you to change things that this point he's not telling you you know he has to go up or down he's telling you he needs to think about it and maybe he needs to talk with  this is the path to get a yes i am favorably inclined to the design i'm just still disturbed about the size and this was a major issue before the town and it's going to continue to be one and telling me more right now i'm sorry but it's just not going to  bit because this is a public meeting and not everyone is so familiar with the process or the past examples or past projects that's being approved so just respond in response to steve's just your comments just now about twenty two bacon road i don't personally i don't agree that you commenting that's this are how our proposal is bigger than theirs  yes they only have three bedrooms on the second floor but they too have lost ice family room on the first floor or one point half and first floor and they had to have a sitting room that's the same size as a bedroom on the first floor so there livable area is bigger than ours and they have the gross area being attic as at the point where we want to argue about square footage at this point we've just told you that we would like to think about this that were were favorable in terms of the architecture ok there's a watt that has been done we have some of the board that's favorably inclined rate now but what we think would be reasonable is for us to think about it at this point we're not going to vote this evening  and there's always a possibility when the board is not in agreement that if you don't get the special permit and you have to wait two years to come back for another special permit though as i said before we're not in the position where we want to argue about this or talk about the details at this point steve is giving you a road to get to yes so accept that and let's move on yet just it's it's it's not i'm not i'm not point i'm not speaking just just like clarifying just the comment because i've talked to i've talked to people they they watch thank you now i understand i understand that this is a very difficult process that you're going through its time it's money it's emotional you know concerns and you planning things we're trying to get you there and so what we're proposing now is in the movement in that direction so please accept that and we'd like to get to that point ok so we need to think about it all right thank  you if there's no other comments i will continue the public hearing on twenty two i'll make a motion that we continue the public hearing on twenty two hundred road until one day where it has to be after it has to be after town meeting the twenty seventh april twenty seventh twenty eighteen to hear second i'm all in favor thank you we've just moved the public hearing until that we've continued the public hearing ok so we haven't made a decision on anything we're going to think about in the twenty seventh of november every twenty seven when eighteen so what we're trying to do at this point let me just reemphasize this again we're trying to get something that's going to work and we've had experience before when we've got sticky projects i think knock street was one of the projects that we did and we came to a consensus on that and it took a while on that and i think we're getting closer to the consensus then we were before this evening so we're moving in that direction so we'll see you back on the twenty seventh thank you very much the vice chair will you read the public hearing notice notice here by given the belmont planning board will hold a public hearing on thursday nov eighth twenty eighteen at seven pm on the board of selectmen meeting room town hall across the hall in the auditorium  to consider the application of power plus gas for a waiver from the stand by law under section five point two point two of the zoning by law to install signage on gas pumps at three fifty propeller road located in a local business three was really bad what happened to them yeah it was really look really but i spent like half a million on renovating the whole place i had signed on the palms before so i bought new pumps with signs on them laser print but i guess that of this is a long one pursuant to massachusetts general laws chapter forty eight section five the belmont planning board will hold a public hearing on thursday november eighth twenty eighteen at seven pm in the auditorium town hall four fifty five concord have to consider a citizen petition to amend section nine of the zoning bylaw marijuana establishment temporary moratorium by mending section nine point three temporary more tore him as follows delete the words the more moratorium shall be in effect through december thirty one twenty eighteen and replaced with the words the moratorium shall be in effect through june thirtieth twenty nineteen so that it reads nine point three temporary moratorium for the reasons set forth above and notwithstanding moratorium period the town shell undertake a planning process to address the potential impacts of marijuana in the town consider the cannabis control commission regulations regarding marijuana establishment and related uses and shall consider adopting new zon bylaws to address the impact and operation of marijuana establishments and regulate and related uses anyone wishing to be heard on this issue should appear at the time and place designated i'm having a sense of deja vu on this did did i not read this last year  my name's porsche thompson i'm a resident of eleven beatrice circle and i'm that applicant for the citizens petition very new to the lingo of thanks so please forgive me if i don't get all the wording correct so weighty are requesting this because as it stood when we submitted it out early october there seemed to be a lot of confusion and concern regarding where zoning bylaws were at that time and as it stood the moratorium now in places will end on december thirty first we are requesting the new temporary moratorium to be placed on june fourth until june twenty nineteen just in case people at town meeting cannot agree on the proposed planning from from the planning board we want to thank you for how well you have listened to the residents of bell mine and for all the concerned citizens here you have done a remarkable chop and we are very thankful for that and they only concern at this point is a disagreement that may come up at town meeting it during the town meeting on next week where the town meeting members will discuss  proposed article for agreed in the case that that it does pass and in the town meeting that we have already looked into dismissing it after that point that we've done what we were asked to do and i understand this as a stopgap measure but in terms of planning i don't know which is the basis that's outside the scope of the planning and we've already done the planning we've already done the zoning town meeting is going to vote on that if town the votes against what we've done they will probably it's incumbent on all of us to encourage our fellow town meeting members to vote in favor of this thing but i don't think that's where the energy ought to go i don't i don't think there's anything else the plane sorry so there has been research done on people who have done extended moratoriums whalen's one of them there will be a list at town meeting that just states those like i said it will be proposed and in a way much more eloquently than i can do tonight but that states so that we are in favor of the planning board and and all that you've done in all the wonderful work you've done and that it is merely just to make sure that your hard work is backed up by a safe and a safety gate so to speak but i respect and and applaud your efforts and just wanted to make sure those stand tall away so what do you want to do  there was quite a bit of information in your packets regarding motions and amendments and so from so on so there was a new motion that i have and confusing to say the least it came in early enough that it can be part of a revised motion so instead of those all being captured in the amendment it's just going to be a new motion and that is what you're in front of you which of the motion itself and then you have what it refers to from each of the both both of the articles ok it's right there and you saw it you saw it as a red line version in your document now this is the official motion ok that was released yesterday found clarkson today oh it's it saves it's going to be so much more clear because you'll notice at the end of each of the articles  town council has indicated why they realize motion and again most of it is because the vast majority is because of punctuation grammar so will i have to the water on this i'm not sure how that we're going to do that fortunately whose ever reading the motions all that to do is read that small paragraph that's on the motion so if you'll be where down in a no go back to the motion this go back to the motion ok i'm sort of sorry so if you go to article three you know or a joke a war that fortunately is all that has to be wrong all right all right ok that's not right so i was fearful that with the new motion that meant that all of the whole street over the district you did i did give you a copy in your packet i don't know if you need a copy you want anybody want to copy the motion yep that's fine it's done it's a few words look it's just a letter right and then attached to it is and you'll stop or right and you'll see that it's around landscaping and how to properly landscape in this case is to make sure that sight lines for  drivers that that there's a consideration taken into landscaping so that is it doesn't interfere with the sight line of drivers exit in or using for people using the cross sidewalks it's so i mean you would do it anyway but this district the next amendment relates to the adult use more marijuana moratorium oh ok sorry let me go let me take a step backward i apologize  district that was a sentence that basically said assisted or skilled nursing care was not allowed in the south pole st overly district we have a very very keen  member of the public who picked up on that sentence that was in the warrant i went through all my old brass i have no idea what the sentence came from so i spoke to town council to say that this was not in anything the planning board approved this is not in the final draft that we went over so he was as a result of that he was able to take that out and kick capture that in motion so it's not an amendment that question was so i had a question whether or not this it was sort of an extraneous sentence and so i had a conversation with george all saying george i don't know this i'm just going from it doesn't belong in the warrant it needs to be it if this is this is not part of the final draft of the same gentleman who was diligent with respect to punctuation and grammar of this is the discussion i have yes exactly also picked up on the fact that  did some thinking on how to resolve this and came up with the proposed language here which would then you would find under section point but basically you can if you're if you're want to open up a retail marijuana store you can take advantage of the south of the street over the district except for the waiver to parking you have to provide par yes it's all in a special part so this is kind of like if you were going to do this within the building whether it's in your building or anything else there that you know a mixed use kind of thing put now it makes sense so it felt just as i said he felt that he didn't think that the board's intent always to say you know  retail could not be right where the retail couldn't be part of a development that was occurring within the overlay district so that this language would allow yes i think i think we're fine with all the everybody fine with all th wishful thinking maybe one of the things i attended chuck and i actually attended the warren committee and one of the questions that may come out in certainly patrice gavin garvin as time minister has heard several times is why just three three parcels as opposed to the whole street so just to something to think about as with tension question thousand pleasant street it was he made it quite clear that in five years he want to do something and he's what three years in something like that work is more than that i forget what i  we can go now me rest on the first floor office on the second third or even apartment apartments regular apartments so yes the hope is that people take advantage of those two new uses but it doesn't you haven't prevented others coming in as maybe that's something that can be stated in the slide when you're giving the presentation for motor vehicle sales and service local business one does not allow for that but other than that all the uses are the same whether you're in the local business want to look at it's a two it really comes down  said two dimensional regulations that's really where the differences plus with was right with respect to the south as being really just a grounding these two new uses so why not include  which are already allowed or currently allowed  and this is really where the change differences that they go and vote of said what so again this goes back to the three properties so you know you can have these theoretically three buildings that are five foot five foot closer and then all the sudden you get whenever i said back of twenty feet or so for the rest of the properties you know what is that that to me seems disconnected or just jointed well except for th so you have to flood property so those are all those properties over a five foot set back the next immediate property not covered and the overly distract will be headed set back that's greater than five feet  i remember it was like five or five but you needed it at five and i then so this is now where a failure was scouting the slides that were put together that are the existing so this to the top is you know at street level of see in the bottom is  did just fine hey did you know eight hundred yeah he was walking that way  ok so now we get to the fast facts and just to make sure that indeed we see location rights first page second page as the summary really great this was a good idea this also gets to one of the things that we've heard from several different groups is that the public really haven't had a chance to talk about this and so that's why told them that one of the first committees that i ever staffed was the beginning of will brown's burgers career public career he was the chair of the south pole history and then your study committee in one thousand nine hundred six from that he  result last frontier sort of the last area that's given has been given any real thought too and that the reason why the planning board hasn't come forward with it is with a proposal yet is because there's always something else more pressing now that you had time plan by the state which also encouraged you know development of senior elderly housing options and gives us affordable housing options as well as significant for those people for those of those that would like to age not so much in place because it's not the same place as they're just in home but at least age and belmont and so ok wait let me get so this is the purpose of the violence this is now well it says mixed yes yes because that's only way they could that's the only way they could be done with the first four right if you think it's clear them it has to be yeah t ok so i will have that change made and nothing else on the stock ok now on to marijuana lockable weeks ago but they haven't had enough time to study so they're not going to take a position now i don't know if they'll ever  will so tax revenues the way it reads is that the one committee is to take it is to take a position anything that has a financial empowerment and the reality is anytime you do anything it has a financ impact so they should so there was a tradition that they didn't comment ever and then it flipped when some of the issues got more controversial and now they're they typically take regular or are trying to take a regular position right right right so right this like mine did vote by the way to approve both to recommend approval of both articles so that will be certainly  question that you've been studying this issue and talking about this for a while and that there's been one two three four major towel votes on the marijuana eighteen months worth of moratorium has been approved and you know that the town meeting also you know i mean the town twenty six voted to hundred foot buffer does we decided on a five hundred the bus over materially it is not that much different than a three hundred foot buffer when we think about the areas that we've but it's interesting to note that the butler will have the big influence over waverly but i'm not so there are four steps for really involved in getting permission but of the sort first statewide their applications they're kind of limited there are all kinds of these restrictions i'll just run through them to remind people th where we get in tim the paper saying that when we decide on whether or not we're going to get a three percent boost in and revenues for use for that drug education or anything else is deliberately at a different scale than the south of the street map is just to show that the grain street loading dock area is not in play that it's only cell phones ring to say marines you know just  this is similar to the cell phones treat this gives you sort of some background background ok that's it for that the thought is that on wednesday night they'll be three zoning articles including the more right but there's also a possibility that if there's time they may take up south doesn't street right then come back wednesday boggling but it's not a whole lot of discussion there i can't imagine the pain means there will be anything in fact i know everything is on the vote there was no dollar amount so there's going to conversation about dollar minutes anyway a lot of there's a lot of focus on trying to show that all the committees in town afford it the app for and so there's a lot of time spent trying to write th memorandum basically saying you know planning for planning barbeau have this job to do later it was a little unusual as far as cool how many how many vehicles are they going to allow insight to their still working through whose whose responsibility is it is to manage the students  using mr ms miss or any of these things ahead of time and so what i'm noticing in commercial correspondence that people are saying dear bob jones or carole jones without leave you having a title at all this is one of the best crafted it a long time in coming but you gotta get that in but otherwise