different than we would you know we're talking about ideas for and ideas take resources and time and so we need to be able to put this property into our existing framework of  resources and so degrade author and i think personally what i'd like to see is just take this down to the highway department and ask them to fit that into their weekly or bi weekly schedule whatever it is and they should probably be able to do the same thing to our town highway department i went through after the storm saw the damage couldn't believe how localized the damage was out there in the jeff and i went through today and i was amazed at the progress they made in cleaning everything up opening everything up putting everything back together they really deserve a pat on the back that came out of nowhere and from what i've seen they really did a fantastic job and continue to fantastic work out there jumping into the agenda ok so section two appointment of a zoning officer we have one candidate so i would just recommend that before approving we make the proposed approval conditional on the planning commission agreed to the offer that i put together so based on based on the fact that we have representatives from all wards agreement that i'm hoping we can make it conditional on tonight in the plan ok so the motion which has been moved and seconded is to approve meals right for the citizens of zoning officer conditional on the planning commission approving him at their next meeting was an issue last year with a party on the new ski river resulted in cars being parked on private property trash  left of the river banks of private property owners that through a facebook post has been rescheduled to reoccur again this year there are concerns about parking sanitation noise safety  safety we don't have the ability to do a water rescue should it happen the burden by pretty owners along the river who would have to pick up the beer bottles and the trash the parking all the cars paid i had a good discussion he he said he never intended to grow the size it grew to be last year he felt he had a couple dozen people go with them and they they had a good time and although they did wind up on private property he said he had no idea that a thousand people would say they would go for this is also a facebook event he said probably not everybody would be going but you know they said they would not and i told him for the town's perspective you know we have to be prepared for anything he shared our concerns to the understood what one thousand people in richmond on that afternoon would do so i did for him the real information he and i didn't really talk a thing about the specifics it was more of a chance for us to have an opening for him to look at the information later he did email me today and say he wanted to talk to me i was ramming i don't know if it's possible that i mean if but that would be up to him to figure that right and then you also have the the concern that even in the so i'm on their facebook event page right now and it says to park at the round church which the obvious exit point would again be my parents lance if they could move that parking spot i could eliminate we can say yes or no but the biggest concern for me is i believe going over twenty or thirty people flooding is one unit down the river we can't handle a water skier carrie and two years ago there was a someone who went after kayaking in moderately fast waters and every rescue unit in the town of richmond went to the spot that the person was last reported one person went downstream to see if this person was floating downstream and such but the story is an example of the fact we don't know what we're doing we're unprepared we can't handle it we have no boat we have no rope equipment and the next available rescue unit is coaches to technical needed in a van with three hundred people would be just an overload event with fifty people might be manageable but i'm not looking for an application that says i pick up the trash i'm looking for an application that says we'll have a boat on the water or there are five guys who are we are paying to stand by in their wetsuits with their dark wood not that's what we can handle we can handle everything else you can find a place to park they can pay to be we can handle and it is our responsibility not the statements bill if we can't handle going into the water and pull someone out so next thing you know you've got a b ok lincoln seconded all those in favor of the amendments to the fraud policy please signify by saying i any opposed is passed unanimously do you have those out i like the way it's laid out with the the bold points some information underneath it so if somebody was looking for something specifically to go down through and see it how does third the overall document look to everybody know jeff can we have this on the town website but then do a front porch forum announcement with a link to guide people to the to the website yes many  in an average year sixty percent of these are on their mind it's the oldest water distribution line in the system there are some very kind of home grown fixes inadequate supply flow to the this is unfortunately bad news and the good news the bad news is we've been spending about twenty thousand hours of your peers on that section on line the good news is if you replace the line you don't have to spend the twenty thousand average repairs it will cost a bit more good especially since we're eligible for a negative twenty seven percent if we do it now and they're thinking and we know it actually has to be done right and that twenty any further discussion on the east main bond  and get all the information did you want to talk a little bit about what the damages were what it's cost us so far where we are sure to go through the way most of the significant damages washouts the water just ripped out of certain areas on the hills a couple of people have told me that they are their own rain gauges registered three inches of water in our so a lot of that can just  passable some of them still have sections where they've been combed off where the shoulder is gone on and it will take several weeks to get most of the roads back to normal and i think the most significant difficult damage is to greystone drive and we've got some residents from greystone neighborhood here and i think you know they want to hear what we have to say they may want to comment also there is an area at the top of greystone drive where there is a significant slo failure and the right of way is gone and there are a lot of you till the spirit in the right of way on the water and electrical and communication not water electrical communications lines but the service fail way out well outside the right of way and we had an engineer take a look at it today and he's going to give us some ideas we haven't engaged anybody yet but it looks like it's going to be a significant repair on there's been quite a bit of earth that split away and will have to build up the slope from the toe which is on private property and all the way back up to the point where the utilities can again be buried it's going to take ordinated efforts with the utilities to get that to happen and we're going to have to figure out how we're going to armor that pain to keep it from happening again and i know greystone residents association has been examining what they need to do about their store water system there to to repair it from some of the damage and we we just don't have a plan and i think we're going to develop a plan very quickly it's i think it's a project that's going to have to be big out for a  contractor david my looked at that today talk to me engineer it may be several weeks before we get anything going there on and that seems to be the unfortunate reality just because it's that complicated i think we're going to need permanent easements from landowners to be able to get get rebuilt what we need to get today i never got an update but they were going to fly and i drove to compare photos i guess to see how much material washed away that didn't happen but the trans officials did come out at the end of last week and they did view that damage so there some of our roadways are eligible for state aid and we apply every year for highway grants structures koreans and certain roads are not everything to wash down you can stabilize slopes like that there was nothing really there to hold it together but we can place it in there meaning to sensually seems to be reengineered yes and answer what our involvement is right now the primary focus is on the road itself and the right of way we don't own the stormwater system in that area greystone drive the road turns to the right kind of levels off and it just starts to go down a little bit it's where it levels off and starts to go down where the water is coming down the hillside or follow the driveway overwhelms storm water whatever the road calculated solutions so the stormwater system and graystone goes into different directions part of it from i guess around where are all those that goes down to the silt pond and then it goes out amount of water that came down and overwhelm the collection system at the top and ran over the road the cost of failure a normal whatever normal store might be the system handles it at that that point the better solution is to address it when it comes across washed out again friday night and then they combed it off in this morning they put it back the problem we have there is there is a the pipe that is on the south side of the road  a depression in the pipe was at the bottom that depression is now totally full of mud so there is a vertical from the top and anything you do if we can't get all the mud down fast enough we can't even get acquitted in there used to purchase culprits but it could be used to engineer fixes and it seems to me that we continue to patch these out and wait for their travel plans to come through and rebuild them instead of going back when they happen and engineer out of here in the next month and rebuild that area correctly and my son my second question and or comment as it should be seen probably is every year we apply to fund the pavement jerked around and the road is in ok shape i feel like things like fixing cochran road in the actual like base of cochran road the fact that it just keeps a roading should be on the top of our grampus instead of funding a paving project that can be done thankfully and it can be used in my opinion to do more than just purchase materials and labor but purchase services to make sure we're doing using that money correctly  hundred sure that i would agree that it's the best use of the over the it's also the bridge in color than any small bridge repairs could cost quite a bit of money also so we can talk about this at the next student update on various tax credits for facades and infrastructure that are available for businesses in town their need to have some work done on their buildings there was a report it took about three weeks to get that written report and actually we got that couple was yesterday or a couple days it was yesterday yes the remark part about what somebody did an inspection of the library this person is storage preservation expert from from greensboro vermont and they took a look at the condition of the building inside the roof inside the steeple and also an ex old the slate seems to be fairly good quality which means that it could have quite a bit of life left in it there may be some flashing concerns and you may have to repeal replace parts so the slates some slates in order replace flashing some slates may have fastener issues but the roof didn't need a full replacement right now and they didn't i don't that the roof is not falling over there and you know there are the rest of the news is you know the building is old and has issues and we could spend twenty thousand a year over many years just maintaining it ok so that committee's going to meet again and i know we have resolved to hire somebody to do this kind of inspection but i think what the library had done answers most of my question there is some leaking on the little stiefel the one on this side they're recommending who don't think they police cameras are i don't think they're in service here we perceive them there was chief had somebody look at installation under i don't know i don't know if they've all been installed or if some of them got to your senator can we get a copy can two things can he come and show us the body cams when they come in and two can we get a copy of the body the windows in this building yes can we do it is that on the stack radar to begin thinking about one more time yes and maybe when we think about it well there was going to be the next big project that i was going to come up with again that the question was going to be do we restore these windows were replace them and i think you'll you'll hear quite a bit from from both sides w well i wouldn't know about us and more but i would like to open this discussion and i don't know if you're the right person to manage that are you the person who should be managing by you know should be involved this is building up and i would like to begin that process because you talked about this you know there's a bunch of work that needs to be done there and so my question is this person who came through and did this inspection do they just do it on the roof or is this the time retyping they could come over to this historic building and walk through and produce a report for us so we can see what an independent person believes are the priorities here because you know in all honesty the windows have been my priority because i feel like they're unsafe and inefficient but i don't know if there's a bigger issue somewhere else  buildings i think we need to think about putting money aside every year in in tis a patient that we're going to have major repairs like we have over here we do that we so we have financial reports guess ok so you can take a look at the budget status  yes well not really this is the financial controller ok school lease speaking of this building the school for a long time is consider relocating to the space in one of their schools three years ago they were new there at least for a three year term with the second three year renewal period after  move into one of their screens so it's something we need to expect they pay a little less than forty three thousand a year in rent that's a lot of money once they do vacate you know we'll have that space to consider what we're going to do whether we're going to rent that to another agency or a private business tenant is there another tale in the heat that worth that amount of money here i guess you know i'm thinking about how that impacts my home for ration and not necessarily tax payers a whole i have not going to go as far as to say that that's going to be a savings to the taxpayer when the reducing the speed limit to forty not because the do shows they the seventy percent speed during their study was forty seven percent and the crash rate is low compared to similarly situated ways in vermont so i don't  think we should mess with this stuff the way you know on a whim we decided that this area is unsafe the data doesn't show it and then we go and change the speed limit and then you have and everyone the segment in question is a short fifty mile per hour zone sandwiched between two forty mile per hour zones with the potential for increased basic old pedestrian traffic there is some merit in reducing the speed limit to forty miles per hour ok i think mary  park and ride is there maybe it's the local station but i see a lot of people doing this when they're driving their darting over the centerline or darting over the way point i personally don't go over forty when it speeds up to fifty and drops down to forty and i get the cars study and found that the eighty fifth percentile speed is around forty seven mph and the crash rate is relatively low compared to similarly situated highways in vermont however and this is the part that i read earlier the segment in question is a short fifty will make the final decision the topic will be on the agenda of the next traffic committee meeting on friday june twenty sixth two thousand and fifteen that if you are members of the public or unable to attend but would still like to informal least we support it so there's no reason to assume moving on to letter g internal controls did you want to take that so that's ok you take a look at technically you're supposed to approve it if you don't approve it i don't know what europeans probably nothing but it there's nothing surprising here a list of things that we do  certify i can't sell especially not without the treasurer signing it and definitely not unless i have done the work myself or an audit firm of c p a s has done the work so i so we're ok with pushing it back to the next meeting approval of minutes we have it would like to entertain a motion to approve the minutes of the june first meeting second of those in favor of approving the draft minutes of the select board meeting for june first please signify by saying i so the three that were there approved and i would like to entertain a motion to approve the draft minutes of the june eighteenth so awkward meeting which they say oh eighteenth we haven't even been there yet june eighth meeting think you marr so we do have need to go into executive session to discuss japs annual review i don't think it will take that long y thirty ok with that ok so for the next agenda we need to review the gravel plan we need to review the funds for this building do an update of the status of what's available with their we need to discuss putting changing the speed limit on east means street through jonesvill participate briefly say those in favor of entering the executive session for the purpose of discussing geoffrey bennett in your review please signify by saying i i i think we have