all before we move on in the agenda i thought we'd have a moment of silence for evelyn josepha quits she was the crossing gorges of an employee for thirty three years i think she passed away today i had one question about the five the property maintenance and cleanup i agree with the motion and the way it was stated but i just wanted to clarify one council was talking did we intend to direct mr sylvester that we should pursue all of the properties or just the three that were being discussed that night because i took it that we were suggesting he should go ahead with all against all of them i thought it was going through my recollection was only three but the more regula figure we didn't want we want to move on those other ones and he was supposed to my understanding was look into those ok they were supposed to be on the coming generations and that was more understeer here ok but that's how i needed it as to clarify i think you are we have a counsel the current situation with the supreme court in the p c and the  before the court to review the long you know why you can see why you think you should only read your one cannot be others that have no idea that coupled with the fact that they're asking for reconsideration before there's even been a decision made on a case which is contrary to the is there anyone here the seating that would like to discuss or speak with respect to a non agenda  i was going to wing it the purpose of this item is to improve the efficiency of our meeting and to avoid having people wait for items that apparently require little or no discussion these will be active with one motion any idea can be taken off this agenda and acted separately if any council member or audience member desires the items on this evening's consent agenda or are wanting a resolution oh wait one thirteen amending the police policy manual to add an alternate duty belt and attachments to a special permit request by the chamber of commerce for a banner for a five k race on arrowhead trail on october nineteenth and three an earned income tax appeal decision o dash two zero one three zero does anyone any council member wish to remove any of the items on the consent agenda for supper consideration i'd like to remove by them three four separate ok then we'll re's been a installation of what we're calling fitness trail items little stations that have exercises and stretches that sort of go along in there their own trail it was  unveiled before community day and a lot of people commented on it that they really enjoyed it and were looking forward to finding the remaining items that they had not successfully found so i assume that there will be a map produce to improve safety in the park there were some cars i think coming around the corner of the field at bernie a little too fast and i think it's a perpetual issue with people coming down the hill in marin if a little too fast so we have these dangerous part of the curve they are trail folks had come and requested that a stop sign be placed so that they don't walk in front of the cars coming out of the centenary area because that could also be dangerous and the other sort of improvement thing in the park that's happened it will it will be happening i guess is a request for an eagle scout project to reframe some of the signs along arrowhead trail where they've been damaged by weather or graffiti vandalism the board has also been discussing the inclusion of the girls lacrosse association the youth association under the umbrella of parks and rec currently they're kind of in limbo between the school and the parks and rec where they're not really associated with either with the additional field expand and that we've had there should be field space to accommodate them with field three and four when that gets taken care of so we're waiting for them to formally apply if they choose to do so we also have discussed minor revisions to the process for filing complaints involving things to do with the youth sports associations we've had a number of incidents over the past year or so people sort of jumped jumped a ladder as it were and either came straight to our going to their board first and then if resolution can't be achieved at that level if they want to come to our board next and then if people still have a problem to come here rather than wasting wasting what you know taking things yeah exactly the other sort of issue that we discussed had to do with sort of limitations on what i would call commercial kind of activities in the park and on own head trail we had a number of requests i guess in june where folks wanted to give away bottles of water on the trail but they had the bank name on it or who they wanted to do a fundraiser for were something that certainly a worthy cause but include selling things in the park and we just really want to not have a lot of commercial kind of activity in the park other than the vendors that are  brought in for community day at our next meeting we will be brainstorming ideas for sportsmanship clinic ways of sort of reinvigorating the yes  program you know the the issues that have been sort of the negative things that give me a headache throughout the time that i've been on the parks and rec board have generally involved parents often exhibiting very poor sportsmanship so it's trying to figure out a way to really make them make make go all the parents all the township sort of realize what their role is in youth sports and how often we are spoiling it situations would be invited to and no doubt will also be discussing the youth sports association different associations compliance with the reporting requirements that they have to do especially the background check has been improved compliance with it but if the associations don't take the simple step of including the shell's e mail address on lists that they send out amongst themselves that includes a list of all the coaches and other volunteers the list of all the players we don't know that you know if we don't know who the coaches are it becomes difficult to check it against the proven materials list and i think the background check yeah like we say it's so hard for people to follow the rules and the question of your marriage on the trail and throughout the park do we do we have a leash wall for for  ask the township police department to come into the park and please and you know help inforce parking restrictions on that sort of thing like you might want to put something on cable and you monthly newsletter you come onto the trail from a different township and then walk into our part of the trailer there's peters township signs there and so yeah no excuse him or by the right if you like they might not have a leash twenty something like that yeah i mean you don't want to have just to find every you know couple are now down the trail but on the other hand it's maybe that something that can be part of our sportsmanship brainstorming inside different spelling of the street in the beginning of the resolution but then i had a question about the poem this particular point is staying the property of the h l a you have heard it as a permanent form so the sylvester on next item would be the final plan of the hammer the springdale plan number three for benjamin marcus holmes on drawling chaired by when ridge engineering i dated revised june thirteenth two thousand and thirteen p had a request from the contractor operation industry email on july twenty fourth basically following the general conditions of the contract documents requesting in writing relief relocated until thirty five days after the thirty to thirty five days thirty five days after the notice to proceed the way that the project was sequenced was a lot different than the bebo bridge project you know other words to be bought bridge project basically the first thing that occurred was you know the field was removed from the top of the bridge and then the structure demolished i think is quite would be valid if that's the way that he chose to proceed with this one but that's not the way chose to proceed and if you've been out to the site what actually happened was very different so it was clear in the film was removed from on top of the bridge but the arch remained in place his choosing basically to facilitate trailing across concrete trucks in ohio hammers and everything across the top of the structure so we could pour the abutment fodor's and drive the piles and everything so it was really to his advantage to do that and he didn't really wasn't in a position to demolish the bridge until long after horizon had the lines relocated so i discussed it with the design engineer style shaffer and we really don't feel that it's a valid request so it will be our staffs recommendation to deny the request for four leave from the advantages on mr some items when you did the pre construction meeting today give you a project schedule with an idea of how they were planning to proceed they did and it was decisions regarding similar facilities which i'm established while the fair market value is what to be proposed as a settlement that mirrors what those or it's our recommendation that in fact is be approved hesitation is just because i feel that with his current position it's a conflict of interest or could potentially be sound we'll welcome him back then based on the votes of my colleagues our colleagues time we have a position for any board decision there's always a great selection of candidates and choice a very difficult decision to  each one of those some of them seem to be a little bit more relevant than others that have your comments on the cards were the questions by the new i had one question you had a follow up meeting with fema and you have mr murphy's letter here i know that small miscellaneous we have several items under there some of which i'm sure we're going to talk about under the small business administration one of which year we did send the notifications out to property owners that i like the idea of the monument signs instead of the post signs and i don't know that i have a really big problem with the two monument signs if they are scaled down because the objective i presume is to make sure people know which one's the gas only hours it was first everybody knows what they sell very good like pretty much the only game in town certifications and so the suggestion i would make is that we would then just do it as the other option we talked about putting it at the entrance of our driveway here it's miserable center and if council bracket here right in the middle of the driveway and that it was a sign and and then we would have senator smith and representative mark here to do proclamations on the family would be present i think that's contractor he thought he could do it quicker and i'm not sure if he still believes that or not at this point a gun sure he was expecting to have been working on that wal mart well if you could periodical just  can use later a good amount of work already done so it appears that they may behind be behind but that's because the sequence differently would be about so as of today they're pretty much on schedule i think the wildcard here is the power company has t is that that's pretty commonplace i mean i know like even when they you know any kind of mining they always send that way and i always you know feel that i should have it inspected because it  ok one last thing mr cure for those of those viewers who don't realize that the washington county fair is going on this week it's running through this weekend at the fairgrounds in washington county for a lot of different activities friday kids under twelve going in tray up till four pm so go online and look at it might be something new for you