and monster and monster that seems to me where would you agree that better economic social economic condition could be just around those communities matt reed will be in here in a few minutes  and he'll be the first one to tell you after we talk about gay marriage which is really old and boring what we'll talk about is we're talking about what brings people in what businesses i would just because i've been doing the show with him and some of what he says rubs off on me i'd be willing to stay that the gay marriage is much lower on the priority list when you're bringing a business and then school grades are when you're bringing in when you're looking in a community you know what's unique about this situation when you second gen so there's three things that a guy said yesterday from the cato institute which i'm not a big fan of it's a big republican conservative group but makes a lot of sense when war on poverty now stick with me here there was three things that will almost ensure that you stay out of poverty one graduate from wherever you're at ok two if you are single do not have children starting at minimum wage don't stop keep working hard keep trying to make it but think about that one get an education at least a high school diploma two if you're not married don't have a kid ok now let's think about that if you can barely afford yourself why you try to force someone else well they should really reframe that then if you're in at or below the poverty line then maybe a consideration for child birthing should be considered but just because someone is single doesn't necessarily dictate they can't afford to have a child so i disagree with that statement i'm just putting it out there if you would like my take is a  little sort of pegging in on what you talked about earlier when you are reading headlines because the charter schools are on the burner in this legislative session i guess and one product or more or more cars anything you name it we always have tons of choices in this country good bad or indifferent it's what it is think about charter schools jenna's we're getting to the point here in our charter schools have been in business long enough where we can start looking after their track record so well exactly where i was going because that's that's where that's where i'm getting a little leery about the whole thing and i've done a little bit poking around to see how this whole thing works and the big business and that's what it boils down to you can claim your nonprofit but it's a business there are people that are making a nice living that are starting in launching these charter schools and like you always say follow the money it's interesting to see where they lead and with that and we already have choices with private schools you send your children to private school i'm fortunate to have my two young sons starting in a corporation that received in a where does that leave the the sea and the best schools in terms of funding and assistance when and they're more concerned about creating more choices how why don't we fix what's broken how come we're not you know what what is so broke with these schools that we're not fixing it's not it's to me i just don't understand because this is this has been a ongoing thing we know  i mean even some of the girls or schools didn't receive in a combat how we didn't receive an a i did see in the paper that there was going to be some changes in griffith because they knew this grade was coming out and they're not happy about it and you shouldn't be and you  to know what especially if you're one of those communities where your grade has gone down you know i mean you know it's tough i mean there's one thing to be in favor of grading system or not but at a certain point there is some truth to some great i mean i joke around a little bit with giving some money but that would have worked if you would a gave some money to you know if you would have donated you would had a little bit of play i mean that's just the way it works in life but you know the guy that was in charge that's gone so maybe that doesn't work anymore well that's right you know that sort of that was across her altogether with that whole tony that i was never a fan of him out of the gate but you know that factor sad reality every day this is what in my opinion perpetuates poverty and we perpetuate the cycle for children who unfortunately have been born into a less fortunate situation than others and their fair share for salvation you can get up out of it is education like you said the first thing is education you've got to graduate and that's to me where we really need to spend a little more time in our search for youth in we're challenged cities and communities we're schools are graded very high this have an opportunity to improve their lives and thanks shannon i'll answer that i agree a little bit with you and i disagree and let me tell you i disagree about the poverty thing i talked about this with my uncle the other day our grandparents his mother the people that came over here in the twenty's and thirty's were much poorer than the poor people are in northwest indiana right now ok let me say that again the people that came in here and really got northwest indiana going they came over here from eastern european countries in the twenty's and thirty's were much poorer and had less they didn't have anywhere near the safety nets that there are now ok so i don't want to hear that i just don't i'm sorry you know what my gramma never earned more than seven my grandmother grandfather on the p  side never earned more than seven thousand dollars and when she passed away she had four properties and stressed education to her kids and to her grandkids and work your tail off so they weren't any poor  you go to the south side to be chicago thirty years ago forty years ago fifty years ago they were very poor so i don't want to hear that these people don't add it