deal with and then we go down a few lines descriptions of discriminatory laws against chinese indonesians before the laws or repealed unquote that assertion is totally inaccurate cal knowledge most of the anti chinese laws in indonesia remain on the books to this very minute the record is not to the contrary and i would refer your honour's to of future persecution specifically the applicants past experiences plus pattern of practice evidence plus country conditions equals a well founded fear of future persecution in this case of course a supreme court decision and i a he was discriminated against by a government official later the issuance of his passport for a few hours he testified that he had to pay a higher fee as opposed to the a native or indigenous that well i mean he says he and his family members are regular attendees at the church of their choice presbyterian church neither he nor is any of the family members and suffered any difficulties in attending church and worship the concord of the faith that i was there no evidence of anything happened to might also add in that article on the page six fifty five that lead us in the left hand column about halfway down underlined it does discuss that there are numerous riots departure and that's the reason that's by statute session to forty capital be very costly to apply on time no actually he filed this asylum application too early this is what happens it's  to patent a practice evidence because that can be a basis even if a person doesn't have enough in personal experiences that's part of the equation i said earlier in this case his answer shocked house was damaged during the  ninety eight riots also he stated that a family friend's house was ransacked and looted during the one nine hundred ninety eight riots in terms of the country conditions again there are still hundred everybody's religion that is correct your honor yes it's a country that's eighty seven percent muslim it's the most populous muslim country in the world so you have thirty four seconds  normal to prevail he must show that the evidence compels the conclusion that the immigration judge improperly determined that he failed to show a well founded fear of persecution did not prove nor did he allege essentially that he had been persecuted in indonesia nothing happened to him nothing has happened to his family i guess his aunt had her shop house destroyed and a friend had a house there is certainly is this court has so held your honor that if there is a pattern in practice but there is absolutely no pattern and practice of persecution of ethnic chinese or ethnic chinese christians in this case was i read the record it's kind of like a p that's the evidence of record particularly the government's documents show that the discrimination against the chinese in indonesia in the sixt  discriminatory laws were passed and that this government the government of i believe it was that process as well as the fact that in the knees you were suffering from as all asia was at that point severe economic problems and people were lashing out at the chinese who were perceived to be and they are holders of great wealth and that the citizenry thought that every chinese individual was wealthy and lash out at them i guess the point to be made is that after nine hundred ninety eight and the change certainly after the change of repealed certainly a great many of them chinese news publications are are allowed chinese language newspapers are now out they weren't before the chinese are allowed to take chinese education now they weren't  before they're permitted to celebrate festivals their group permitted to celebrate the chinese new year they weren't before i guess what i'm saying is that given the change in the government's general while lead is i believe a muslim himself that he again the evidence of record establishes the pattern of practice the evidence of record does not compel a conclusion that mr christian friends and his relatives all practice their christianity without apparent problem they are all his parents obviously and his friends that he's discussed in his grief there in the record are chinese those are those two that had problems in the one nine hundred ninety eight rise of rebuilding arguing from all from the record very well if you have any other point you want to make  i just wanted to indicate that with respect to the allegation that christians are persecuted the evidence of record does not compel a conclusion that christians are persecuted to a great extent  areas particularly the malacca islands which are fairly far away from jakarta where there is a very big conflict between christians and muslims they attack each other regularly i don't know that i can't imagine that many of these christians in the islands are chinese but even if they are there is a huge conflict between between the two of them but that conflict which results in end discrimination and and bad bad things against  your sixty the court believes that the documentary evidence the step which is a pattern and practice and in the nature of periodic outbreaks of violence directed against the ethnic chinese which often rise to the level of persecution was there something other than that that she found i understand she found pattern practice as described but i just want to know if we're talking whole yes your honor a lot of thought past experiences fansite need to make the finding beyond that statement where she says there's i can make a finding a