welcome everybody tuesday tuesday may thirty first two thousand and sixteen select means meeting read you gender tonight seven o'clock citizens in put several five be selectman to update at seven fifteen foxborough commission on disability margaret chase on jay barrows f c o d above and beyond award presentation seven thirty we have a public airing n p s l l c discussion vote on application for guns and roses concert some forty p m zoning board and ryan kelly discussion board a new joining board applicant to fulfill your foresters term at seven fifty board of assessors citation for years of do like to do the pledge of allegiance probably the worst part of the storm as you know was just completely downpour but the legion was there the v f w sky lead it would have a good group of people that raised it went up to four mass and came down half mast for the day and then we crank it up at the midday so if anyone drove around today i mean it is a twenty by thirty foot flag and really it really pops and it looks nice so we decided we're going to do what we had planned after the memorial ceremony we're going to do on flag day which is appropriate it's june fourteenth it's tuesday when our do it at six o'clock same night that we have a meeting so that we can get here about back by seven but we're inviting the public have reached out to the w in the legion and reach out to the scouts are going to have a decent group and what we're hoping is that the public shows up you're all going to participate you're going to get a pair of scissors peace in the red and so the more people the merrier and thank you for the police and fire  showed up at seven and see here tonight jay barrows thank you so if you could be there on tuesday at six o'clock and then we have a time capsule we're going to try to put in the ground that night as well we're going to shoot for founders day but i think probably more probably to do everything on foundered black flag itself and then just quickly we've been updating on this board other people has donated it's going to go in the paper but the three people out last week i just want to mention chris  who i donated some lumber for that nice sign that we had up the thermometer sell those weren't recognized before but if we could just recognize that now i think that completes the list and then we'll close it up on the fourteenth so thank you yes you know it was a true community effort he's donating he basically said give the pots a self watering pots they're going to be beautiful as five big ones that are going to go around and he said he will do the all of the topsoil that's in there special mix in provide all the plants he also provided all the   free of service free of charge you know you see in nice things happen and then just if i can just what thirty more seconds i'd be remiss if i didn't say you know when we did this project we tasked it to the concrete the paul the landscaping and stuff we never really figured on a kind of the clerk of the work somebody that would put it all together the d p w stepped up you know they were out there every day they were treating it like it was their front yard their brother you know and i'd like to see that use you get you know they get the brunt of it when the so quick update on economic development committee they're looking to do it to yield study in preparation for a possible r a p the development of the fire station killing killing funeral home there's a meeting tomorrow night and then we'll bring that back to this board so that when they're still working on some zoning recommendations to bring forward to the planning board so that they're working on a regular basis good luck to the fox mind if we go a little ahead of schedule it's for children with disabilities these special people focus on a person's abilities and want to make their lives as full as possible well supergirl was is one such person michael stanton the principal of the  their needs at the i go school she works with students ranging from those who are not verbal and she communicates with sign language to children with mild their disabilities such as anxiety she displa compassion warmth and compassion warmth for each child she is a model to work colleagues on how high expectations hard work and love can make all the difference in the life of children especially those with disabilities three years has organized before and after school programs for all students this year she has teamed up with mike stanton and the guidance counselors  go to teach forty eight fourth graders who are members of the school's scholarship the leadership academy to implement a modified version of the best buddies program found at the high school and the middle school and is called buddy up each student is paired with a younger student or a student with a significant disability as part of promoting positive peer relationships leadership academy students participate in adaptive physical education adaptive music and art classes and i go on super burrows also teaches a number of facts for a high school students in the paper program which stands for partnership academics vocation and excellence she teaches them to swim and develop an understanding of the use of various physical fitness equipment in order to lead a more independent and healthy lifestyle sue was also the force behind our district's participation in special special olympics which just happened last week or so and she organizes the program develops individualized training programs for the athletes encourages all students to participate in interfaces with the best buddies program t one of a kind pep rally for the special olympics athletes and their families so we can think of no better individual who represents the qualities and philosophy for the foxboro commission on disability above and beyond award for it then super orse she sees and builds on the gifts of each student and truly enhanced as the quality of life of individuals with disabilities it is my pleasure and honor to present some boroughs with our above and beyond  selectman committee tonight for having me here i really appreciate you  public hearing at seven thirty so we're going to do some action items in the  move to accept a gift donation in the amount of three hundred seventy dollars from audrey boni barbara nord and economic employee systems inc of sacramento california to use for programs at the senior center a move to accept a gift donation in the amount of one hundred dollars in memory of a corral for mond from mr and mrs david lovell and mrs josselin trip to be used for programs at the senior  services and she's been doing this for a while on her that was accreditation that she has now if anyone in town needs that any of the boards i run into problems she is a good resource and she will do that in no charge and i know she's been on  move to accept a gift to a nation in the amount of one hundred dollars from the foxboro in animal hospital to the recreation department second marriage second and any further discussion you know all those in fa your comments question all those in favor move to approval one day beer and wine license on six sixteen sixteen from seven to nine which i'm glad to see him doing is his of course the of this topic of sort of a structure and i think what we'd like to do at some point is out of a really good discussion and perhaps maybe it's a joy discussion with the water sort commission about coming up with of what a way masters to work plan right anything ever nothing really ever came out of that though i do think that the water sewer commission wants to do that but right now they're they're they're sort of limited in terms of their fund the capacity they're waiting on a couple projects to actually come have a dialogue is about you know what what's the goal what's the timing what's playing there right now that probably isn't you know if they may have more plans that we know but with if that's the case then we should just make sure well what then same direction two weeks i'll be attending the the locus economic development summit which is being held here in boston this year it's the first time first time is being held in boston quite a while but this is a one of the best this event is a live nation show which is the same as for the other concerts that we have planned for the stadium this summer so we're working through the live nation cambridge office and we're using al dali as our production conduit who's the same production company in contact that we've used in the past where are requesting our parking lot open time of four p m with gates at six and the event is scheduled to start at seven the end time we're requesting for the show is eleven forty so the tour started back in april they put their first date and they've gone extensively at this point through central and south america they have come back and they've been is running to about eleven  thirty which is fifteen minutes past the curfew that we typically request so we are working with them to try and get them onstage a little bit earlier and allow them to end earlier but what we would like to do now is request at eleven forty any time so that we cover any need for them to extend beyond the original eleven fifteen which we typically ask for so i did mention the events and their tour has been up and running now relatively incident free of demographics is original so skews significantly older that they have friend no significant behavioral problems or public safety issues in any of the previous states as with any concert that we are event that we have at the stadium and the event that our public safety officials would like to advance this concert at another venue in another state was more than welcome the opportunity to facilitate it and cover any of the expenses that would be involved in an advance trip their ticket prices started at fifty fifty and learn all the way up to two hundred eighty so the show on the nineteenth is a first show that went on sale sold out almost instantaneously incredible amount of pent up demand as you can imagine it's been twenty plus years since they last tour they put the second july twentieth day on sale and it did not perform nearly as well so as of right now the entire three hundred level of the stadium is closed for that date on the twentieth so we anticipate  capacity for the for the second date but the first date the outline thousandth and is completely sold out right now will be operating the taxi stand that we've been operating for the last three years successfully of parkway be open and available for public safety officials as well as thought so we clients and other than that there are any significant components there's nothing really different from from the show than what we've seen on the rest of our shows for the summer conservative there are a lot of elements on the field that of structures that cast shadows and obstruct out into the audience so it really depends from from artist stars and also the set up to all of our shows this summer are set in the south and so you don't play to the north but we do we have had acts in the past that of opted for a center stage or center field or a three sixty set up in that case pasties or they very drastic t do you think the chances of continue working with them to see if they can get we well we honestly will and will pushes as much as we can and i can tell you that i've been in contact with them they're much more than in contact with the agent with  nation the promoter with the contacts we have with the management of the band i will continue to do that by no means by asking for the other forty now we're certainly not going to check off our list of things to do because it's important that we are the best neighbors that we can be and be the least inconvenience when it comes to having a vents or having a lot of incident having events on weekdays because it put everyone's a different challenge but i think it's important that i request eleven forty that we request love and forty this evening because if there's a good chance a trace of the silly i used to find a crossroad but i'm now eight van dorn honestly that's loud in some i've been to a guns and roses i'm a myself at this point but that's allowed for a week night and even though you know we have to get kids up for the next day and my kid sleeps till noon in regard lists of how late she stays up or doesn't there's that concern as well i mean if we have a curfew a curfew should mean something that's my personal opinion and you've got a lot of people around there who depending on the cloud cover that day the way the wind blows they could almost feel like they're out there at at the concert themselves it's just i don't understand why i would have a curfew if every time we're asked to extend it especially on a weeknight and deal with week day weekend i'd be like absolutely it's just that that's just my two cents hesitant above about you know that it was actually told a different circumstances role because he had a license that particular those two shows so early in the year long before the tour and even longer on the road so we had the original license and then got on the agenda came forty and i don't believe that we're on past eleven thirty five for that but i believe that reed buys you to inform these the future concerts for the next year that are curfew was eleven fifty and we do  production manager has been hired for that night and as attendees or as people that would monitor it we coordinate with them based on any noice  calls and they have been very cooperative to turn down whenever there has been if there was a call which has been very quick and frequent the last two or three years but you know it doesn't say that that's going to change i just thought  you know that there's a big difference between a weekend concert and in a week day i mean it is a compromise potentially to say not to graham that tonight there are six weeks left of this concert and just like they came in kind a couple weeks before the taylor swift one to ask for  you know you're setting precedent again because then the next time is comes up you'll say well you know what you did it for guns n roses well it doesn't mean out of the sea only it doesn't do it in then from now on i would be we don't have to say yes if they come in two weeks before but what i'm saying personally i believe that they will work to keep it down but i think if you guys turn the extension down now the work just a little bit harder and i'm saying you have to vote it in if they can't get it down and they come in two weeks before you don't have to voted in  least to give them some incentive to work hard to get it down to the eleven fifteen when you just license it for a living fifteen they have to get it done by eleven fifteen because that's the curfew so that's what i had my commanding for tonight and then if they want to come back again they can but we'll i think that was what we were concerned about the last time was with the taylor swift we had licensed a prelim fifteen and then they come back to weeks later and two weeks before and they wanted to change the time and you know it was like well it's you know you set a precedent which you just referred to but you could say no when they come back in two weeks before jenny you still have the right to say no now really are you going to really yeah you do places what did what did your board recommend which time it was forty or fifty we were recommended to the board to approve it based on our review and they did state eleven forty and i guess a part of it also is the there's a different fan base than they were back here in ninety two and it was zero as a whole different set of it potential or it would have been a whole different set of issues but we just didn't we didn't see that and again based on al daughterly and the fact that we've had very few actual complaints and we probably over the course of the last year of had maybe two ten concerts that and he has done a great job working with the building inspector and so he they he has the ability to get it turned  missing was the question here is is has there been any concern from the previous venues that have been played this year about about the time is as a day been for them in going right to eleven forty and all the other shows they've been going close to yeah close to eleven forty and there are other shows they haven't had any issues with the licensing points in any of the other times most of them that a lot of them have curfews out of midnight on and if they have had to go f the one thing of all it's not directly related to noise at some of the other places that they've played there hasn't been any major behavior issues that we saw back in ninety two like he says it's an interesting discussion because as as a conscious come in we look through the package and i don't see anything in here that said it was going to eleven forty i didn't really realize it and i don't think there was a line item but the police the fire the later almost on a tuesday night so until june i brought it up and given much thought the stadium is as you know a fine balance because it's any you know the urban suburban mix is not the same as other venues into kind of break ground on a rock concert on a tuesday night at twenty of twelve when people do need to get up to work the next day it's not like it's in the middle of the middle of the city so this is a very unique situation and i and i'm surprised that it got to this point without further discussion it's not a huge deal but tuesday night you know almost a quarter a midnight is a big deal for a lot of those residents and wednesday because he wins and it'll be two consecutive nights know i just saw that i guess we are clear though it's not we know we highlighted it in the application and it was it was a leading bullet point in the same advise you can you pack it there really wasn't would you feel like there should leading point but it and i understand it is a couple of points but it's the same weight as you know parking lots open at six gates open at six start time at seven and time at eleven forty we're asking for a waiver or special consideration or something potential concerts next year using this as presidents and struggling in that area with traffic in other stuff throughout the years we got to a comfortable place and this is a big change with respect to the people on pine acres and cross street in north street and in all those lows you know people and the parking in the doors banging to get into the cars and leaving and all that stuff grand it's not a football game but there is an impact to the neighbors so the half an hour difference is a big deal to the neighbors and i think it warrants discussion on this board was that trans lead back to to the band to the i know you said you had discussions with them and they're trying to work out getting them on sooner and stuff like that but do they just automatically say  will be able to bypass that no big deal or do they take stuff like that serious so you know and i apologize this is new for me i'm curious as to how does he take you know the seriousness of a term like ours having affairs and defense development and what will happen is the town curfew is always listed in any contract discussions that we're having with an act so from the very beginning the very first meeting cation that we might have with an agent or manager w respect to routing a torch to come to the stadium the following year one of the line items that's listed in there along with a myriad of other issues is that the town has an eleven fifteen curfew and that is a lot earlier than some some towns have no curfew others have curfews later as this is the earliest one that a lot of turf a lot of tours will encounter so we write it into a lot of the documentation that begins at the very start of the conversation and then quite honestly we're effective a lot of the time and we don't even need to come before you are a reference that because of relationships that we have we're able to make sure going into a license hearing going into an event that we are supreme we confident that the act the artist is not going i going to be respectful of that eleven fifteen curfew and modify their show and their overall toward timing and respect if there are times when there are all different elements that come into play out last year with taylor swift the big issue was like it was far too bright for her to be in her show and for all of the pyrotechnic in the lighting elements the actual production of the show to really pop in to be the performances she wanted if she had to went on stage thirty minutes earlier so those thirty minutes or twenty five minutes tension that we requested a lot for the show to go off with the same sort of artistic integrity that the artist had intended so it's different every time and most of the time it's not an issue when most of the time we're comfortable knowing that  the artist is going to be able to condense their performance beginning early or do whatever they need to do in order to make that eleven fifteen curfew but there are times when we feel like it might be an issue this is one of them so show you anything said that is does that mean the acts pushing back david brown seventeen american way and i don't know if i heard the some not but why not have the open and x start earlier for one thing as far as the time of day and the darkness you know i got a part of i would put a little bit know so i'm just saying they take they have some control over that and they have a plan but i think the bigger thing is can these disobeyed an act maybe they can start earlier or they can cut to show it to something so that you can get the main the vote to approve this license at eleven fifteen curfew and in home and two that i would i would certainly entertain the eleven forty if it was a friday or saturday night being w week and there's a lot of residents within earshot of the stadium that have to get up go to work the next day i think i think we have to be cognizant of them as well so  i think we should make a motion to approve the country rose in concert for eleven fifteen and time  enjoyed it it's a type of our field of law that i'd like to get more experience in just because i find it interesting i'm a personal injury attorney so it really doesn't overlap with my professional interests i just think it's interesting i don't profess any in depth knowledge but i do find it you know i've studied up on it a beds and i have some experience and i really would just like to start getting involved my community and get to know people we we've been here two years we have no plans to leave and if the financial chips fall as they may would like to reside in this town permanently but you know i can't speak to that a further i think i was up front of my application i rent i'm not a permanent resident i have no intentions of leaving that's really about it he said i'm an attorney promise college thursday and introduce myself to everybody and tell me that no i haven't i just started this job about five months ago i was insurance defense attorney before that and i did not have any free time i spent a driving into the city and billing hours my new job  by any means easier but it does allow for more freedom of schedule and that's what allowed me to you know to begin to pursue actionable extra curricular interests any other boards in town interest you at all besides this board yes but i mean i went with this one because i have experience and i have sort of a specific interest but i'd be glad to serve i actually said on my application i would like to serve in any capacity i just yeah your primary focus in laws is insurance and personal injury to you was insurance but i'm sure in personal injury i don't do anything else yes ok do you have any background in understand the hardship laws with respect to variances any experience with that yeah there was a lot of use fairy says and like i believe i spoke with the board about this i was a little bit harsh because i thought that the you know th the no viable economic use standard was a little bit more cut and dry than the rest of the zoning board they kind of approved everything and i was the you know what the punch bowl a couple times because i thought it should be a little harder we had a piece of property on route one that was going to both residential and commercial and they wanted to get was a non conforming want to keep it going and they were pleading hardship you know i thought i said openly at the meeting that i thought that you know land on route one zone for commercial use that has value it just because you wanted to remain was i residential doesn't mean you deserve a use variance on there's a lot of dimensional variances where you know get an engineering packet take a look at it you know some minor h would go back and forth and be involved in that and just kind of you had mentioned your your relationship with some of the people in town campuses a real estate agent very active do you have any business relationships in time no i four i lived and worked as an architect in boston before that's so i've been here for twelve years i and currently on the economic development committing time foxborough as well focused on working to improve the center muscle and i own a company that provides three d laser scanning and building measurement services to our clients across the country we measure approximately forty million square feet per year of different kinds of projects academic institutional so my background is really in the built environment and specializing in dimensions of existing buildings existing spaces  questions from the board have you been a part of the only ball sat in on any zoning board meetings today i have i've sat in on a number of them i've no download the bylaws and review them i don't claim to yeah yeah i can remember last year about this time maybe a little than for this time you were fired for this but that's correct yes perspective into the zoning board of appeals especially where he has experience in a lot of cases with historic buildings and dimensional setbacks and in how they relate to  i enjoy the community and you know let's try to get back up and do something i mean i don't need it for a resume or anything i just you know want to get involved cut how long have you been the chairman and the committee chairman for the board the boston society of know community about that in some standards and education and so forth so you're a self starter i think so you kind of can i just has a lot of the committees and boards that come front of us hing i'm barnett over at ten ames road i'm currently a tram of there's only board of appeals we did not as a board take a vote to make a record recommendation we invited both misty again to mr kelly to our last meeting we spoke with them that was more for them to interview us to find out they ask us questions than it was for us to interview them now it may be very well be that my colleagues have personal opinions and they can certainly you know express them but as a board we did not take a take a vote i would like to say that we we have two qualified candidates i personally would be very happy to serve with either of them and i would hope that the individual who is not selected would remain interested so that if a position opened up in a near future that individual would express interest you know once again in closing i would like to just make one comment i would like to express appreciation f for his years of service on the board for his leadership and his friendship i think a town owes a debt of gratitude to neil for the years of service that he that he provided thank you all sent in just a clarification this is the sociate position and i think it's a little unique that the the board doesn't make a recommendation but having said that it's the put in front of us to to fill this this position so sure they ask questions about what we're what we do they talk to but a little bit about themselves the same as what you've heard tonight so i wish i could be more help on the decision to show you only the ones of a candidate thank you thank you to do this i think we've in the past we've had other members leave the board of assesses and they would be really rotten recognized by the town like we are tonight and my kudos to the board for doing that but know bob for many many years he's been on the board for six or ten enough about him he knows how i feel about him and i know he'll last still be see his smiling face around town but just not serving in a mobile itself congratulations thank you for your service behalf of the board we have this official citation and i'll read the board of selectmen on the occasion of retirement from public service commands robert j high on supporting the town of foxborough for many years of service recognition is given to robert j ho for yourself with dedication support to citizens of tower foxborough is a member of the board of assessors thanks in large part to your expert knowledge as a professional appraiser in your extra or extraordinary business experience you have made the board better prepared to face the challenges  future your contributions to the board of assessors will endure when you leave the board in the town of foxborough far stronger smarter and richer than it was when you joined the board of assessors are grateful for everything you have contributed for the past nine years you say  but i just wanted to say bob you know i've known you through the years to work and you've helped us out trying to explain to us when we do the different valuations how to understand it and presented to the businesses in the residential and think shift time into the town and we do appreciate it in the thanks you in when you're here your wife picking up the other slack so that's truly can a family commitment that you've put into this i thank  you i just on a personal note i was have a special place in my heart for your son nick who he really helped my son out when he was a freshman and in it was a senior so you know kudos h mass on the application of w f l a enterprises for an earth removal permit to be exercised at two summer street foxborough mass about twelve thousand six hundred cubic yards of material will be removed from the construction site shown on the existing conditions planned dated feb twenty second twenty sixteen with a scale of one inch to thirty feet as engineered by united consultants was proposing to construct a facility to services business which is the moving of cars are basically transportation throughout a cunt various types of cars some of the cars will be stored on the site when they're either being shipped from here to another location or from location to this point as you can see and we've previously planned that plane has been presented to the play board we have received an approval from the playboy for the site player as well as two special permits so we're here this evening because as part of this proposal we're looking for the removal of twelve thousand six hundred cubic yards of material from the would be the preferred mode obviously of the town would want to loom some of the room you know that that rule would have to be altered but our plan for the removal is to go through mansfield chris can i ask a couple questions for you if you look at our zoning i mean the reason you're in front of us you get to meet certain requirements one is the board shall inspect the site covered by the application second when you get a notify the one of the one of the requirements is a reasonable fee and i think it was a fifty dollars application fee but then in your package you say to be determined so the the i guess me it may be a question of our engineer has a feed been set for the reasonable to that i want to incur expenses to a business put right that if if if it's set up that way and it's the applicant had said to be determined and we don't we haven't determined it would would we do know i mean the time spent when i looked at this and i looked at the regulations i went out to the site twelve thousand yards is a lot to take off a site and you're in an aquifer protection zone so the more you take off and lie it affects the drinking water supplies so and i met with  and out what i was hearing there was not a lot of controls on the timing and when it's going to happen because it wasn't quite known it's a building that's there but the expanse of parking went to the limits and to go to the limits that's where you had a gr and that's why you take another twelve thousand yards considering that there's a neighbor that's right on the side of it if you put retaining walls in didn't remove all that you'd be bringing less material off impacting the aquifer it was that under consideration it was that discussed in the boards which is it's a tremendous amount to take off a small site next to a residential property well the the six feet tops being proposed in a cut behind that existing house within that area majority of this is you know the removal of top and subsoil for the site we've estimated that based on the depths of the soil testing in and around forty plus inches in one whole round twenty eight inches in another hole and three inches in the previously disturbed the area behind a building so we're estimating that to be about fifty percent of the total amount is the  subsoil the other area where grazing will be taken places for the infiltration pond and that's good that's my concern you get towards half of the site that you're cutting you get a twenty cut not two feet that's on the back side correct so the majority of the cut on the residential side is pretty deep and that's where a lot of the material is coming from i guess my question is was there looking at different options to avoid the material outside and provide the natural buffers a look that we do have some buffers we are proposing a fence a vinyl fence the screening planning board mandated that we relocate the plant things along some history to the abutting property to help mitigate with that mitigate that as i said in the rear we have the six foot cut we're basically leaving a six foot mom four foot mound between the site and the you know the residen cut you're talking about is really occurring outside of the huge aquifer district in a body in the existing detention basin of the residential development and that's for the groundwater recharge system that we're proposing one hundred percent of the storm water from generated from this site will be recharged back into the ground after it's been treated so i mean that's in my opinion a big win for the aquifer area of the town and i don't really see how retaining walls in and around the tension basin would minimize much of the grading that's necessary to get the storm water into the into the basin or to thank you when you did your your  did you have it always be do any in the soil analysis as far as contaminants or potential contaminants typically if you're going to export large amount of soil like that you should know what your exports really thought about doing so at least some random sampling so we could have some sampling done was there removing this oil chris would would you have any objection to that or it you know that a large piece of that is a pretty natural in a natural state you know as jim he went out to the site this is a very substantial trees there that have probably been there for forty plus years you know  and it's uphill from kind of the site that has been used i was there are some cuts you know twenty feet down it's possible i would not opposed to doing something like that the previous business buildings that they would that was a sure i think was you know what what we're exporting or what's being exploited what soils or what's in the soil so before you know it gets off site and you know somebody finds something  i would feel better knowing what the classification a quick question yes you know for those of us that aren't in the business twelve thousand cubic yards seems like a lot to me but i can't grasp in my mind what that is let's say we want to take a eighteen wheel dump d we had the applicant state the fifty forty area that they were preserving in order to valuate in terms of the amount of evergreens that were available and the topography and we were able to go up there and walk around watch island get an idea of what the site lines would be from raw child into the project and what we filed was was the the basin as you can see is closest to the roadway and it's adjacent to an existing line what would be the noise we probably align with the existing great dips substantially from too high in north and in that area we asked that first of all we asked for a solid six foot fence all along that property line a and then b we asked for additional plantings in the area where the grade was low and where the sight lines will most open to the site by taking the trees that by regulation could have been put on the frontage and putting all of those trees in that low area so the screening was of particular interest to us the second substantial issue was that there was a storm water and jim's right about having the so that we understood when there was peak activities it's seasonally peaked and what the normal operating i was were and the typical procedures that they follow  and we crafted some of that into conditions of approval but the issue that we felt most to be most important was to provide some protection to the neighbors to t e what would be to the to the north and the rochester subdivision and we feel that we achieve that by leaving the natural the natural plantings augmented by a fence and enlargement of by some plantings so  that's the reader's digest version of the special conditions but if you have any particular questions on specific conditions be happy to tell you what i think it was just when i again this is a planning board mostly but you've got a parking lot that's not one eighty six you've got the grades at one hundred two on the neighbors so you're already you know six foot five and he was with a six foot fence on just doesn't live leave much of a buffer there the there and the towards the rear of the property the natural high i'll call it oscar for lack of a better term will stack and so as you come down if you get close to the street that's really not a problem with straight line because that's where all the trees went adjacent to the street when the raw child stormwater management area was built so the weak area that was left was still in the basin and how yeah yeah that their issues were raised these people came back the next meeting and addressed the issues it's very technical mr rove and it's a very technical course and i mean it was a lot of discussion about what you brought up proposing to build medical race you know they were there i remember they were they were running ok i stand corrected but that was that was not yeah that was stop stop that was stopped and the applicant proceeded but it was it was tonight they were not allowed to go for good evening and thank you for for the warm welcome from the budget to the war in articles spent four years on ad hoc my second year as vice chair my third as chair and with the with the reader moving to nantucket with his position open a couple of gentlemen had approached me and i had said you know what i think i'll stay on at home and the more i thought about it it was such a good opportunity and germ i am yours i had to know the a's onto a number of different boards but i would say the one that i worked with  closely was the planning board and our town planner at the time it was sharon then upon a passing you know it was working very closely with with paige and gabby and diana that you know and good rethinking it and spending time with these gentlemen to felt very supportive of this although he kids me that we need i need to find two people in order to replace i'm going to be chasing ryan down the hallway after five and that's why i'm for you tonight what you were to get when you go i call it a complete understanding of what makes town and i personally one believe it should be record the board of selectmen acting as the local licensing authority pursuant test mass general law our chapter one thirty eight will conduct a public hearing on tuesday may thirty first twenty sixteen beginning at eight twenty two  also with us and setting up the boards is randy greenstein who is another one of the owners and the proposed manager of record on the application before this evening seated behind me is christine roan who is the director of human resources for the company and worth noting that she was the first employee of the company since its inception a decade ago and last but not least with us this evening is jason nichols who is the director of security operations for the company he's been with them for eight years and hal's from las vegas where he was the head of security operations leading over one hundred security personnel at the palms casino in vegas by way of background as far as ownership and interest in the license go as i mentioned both at and randy are owners of big night entertainment group as well as brother joe who is in with us this evening joe and ad themselves essentially have a lifetime worth of experience in the restaurant industry they both have over thirty five years of experience and all facets of the industry which will labrat out momentarily as well as the further background of the company and the concept of  randy also has been of the company since two thousand and seven and it's intimately involved in all facets of the operation of the company and is a manager of record that has been previously approved by the a b c and other local licensing authorities in the commonwealth he is intimately familiar with the rules and read elations of the b c c and is also familiarize himself with the rules of this board as far as the location itself goes just two fifty three patriot place the inception of discussions with big night entertainment group between them in the craft group i think they all would agree both brian early who is here from the craft group as well as adam randy that they have  solid foundation of a good working relationship and it's a relationship that they're both excited to build upon and we hope the town agrees as well as far as the concept and proposal itself goes again i'll turn the floor over to add momentarily as i think he's the best one to explain the details of that to you but it is for a high and high quality family oriented mexican restaurant and a concept that we feel is on met an unrivalled not only in picture of place and foxboro but the area as well and it's one of the many reasons that they're excited to bring this concept to the town as the as far as the application itself is concerned because this is technically an application for a new license a brief discussion on public need in common good in character and fitness of the applicant is warranted and if i may just briefly start with the character and fitness of the applicant i would hope from what the board knows already from the application materials before you what you may know about the applicant in front of you this evening and certainly i hope by what you learned by the end of the evening here tonight is that the character and fitness of this apple can certainly is and they their reputation for c exam and it's a reputation that is a positive one that's responsible award winning operator that brings high and high quality concepts to every community that they have restaurant restaurants admissions and operations in including boston their three locations their empire red lantern and gem they're working on a fourth one now and as well as their locations down in connecticut and i think the communities there would agree as well as the boards that grant them the privilege to operate in those locations that they not only meet the expectations expected of them for a high end high quality restaurant concept but that they exceed them in bringing quality food quality and creative innovative food and beverage services and overall hospitality  environment to the area that provides an enjoyable and safe environment for their patrons as far as public need goes for this particular license this is  under special legislation that was granted to the town for patriot place and it's my understanding that there is one available and that would be the one that we're applying for and together with the availability of that license as well as the unique concept which i will discuss and the appropriate for appropriateness of the location i think with those factors taken together it makes sense to put that caliber of this operation in that space that is currently unmet in the area so at this time i'd like to turn over that to each of the concept and the background of the company as well hi everyone thanks for having this credit introduction so i thought by operating here and how it's we really try to set the bar for what we think is kind of a national market for for hospitality and recognition in the hospitality market so big night i started with randy green signed to my right and my brother joe in christina's our first employee in two thousand and seven we started then at the casino at foxwoods with they wanted to put a nightclub there as part of their new m g m growth so we did an award winning place called trying which has been open since two thousand and eight we opened when the casino opened there and we've won tons of awards there including for the food there best sushi in connecticut best design all kinds of awards and it's really been amazing property and if i don't if you've had an opportunity to go on our website look at ended up places but i think the common thread you'll see is that really spectacular design that one was a twelve million dollars project is really really the charts beautiful i think right after that we did a concept called scorpion bar which is kind of it was the original concept that we're basing part of this on this  is more suburban concept that is more restaurant based than that particular one at foxwoods but that was our second one we've won design awards for that it's really been an amazing property for us on the heels of that we opened  look you can take a look at it it's really pretty spectacular and then we added a fourth venue down there which is called red lantern which is an asian restaurant and resides above shrine and it's a full service two hundred  twenty seat restaurant sushi restaurant it's predominantly japanese and chinese japanese with the sushi component and chinese what kind of a mixture of a regional chinese cuisine and again we've won a lot of awards for for food at that restaurant on the heels of that we did our first restaurant and boston which is called red lantern two and it's in an old carriage house kind of built in eight hundred ninety  got it out and within those walls we created red lantern which is full service restaurant it's two hundred forty seats it does five or six hundred dinners on a weekend night and again it's pretty spectacular we won design awards open table i'm sure you're familiar with the hottest restaurant in the country and we have the same thing happen at empire then we did jam which is an italian restaurant which is downtown crossing which is kind of a new era in boston which we are very bullish on and we may have been kind of early pioneers there but it seems to be picking up and again beautiful design kind of representative or reflective of a european supper club that was kind of the look that we did kind of a jock garcia look on the waterfront we did what i think is kind of our best design restaurant and that is our newest and that's empire fourteen thousand square feet right on the waterfront very vibrant very busy we've won design awards we just were in top one hundred hottest restaurants in the country we do a lot of corporate events and that's another common thread we do a lot of corporate events from full sell outs for companies like hill holiday and hospitals and everything who take over our spaces we really try to design them with very high end materials and very good looking so that we can take advantage of kind of what  do in boston as far as as as the way we're more involved in community events and community organizations and hang them so we stay in one nine hundred eighty nine open stars which is breakfast lunch and dinner it caters to every age group which is very similar to what we're trying to do at scorpion bar here so young families older adults grandparents everyone with a really great food offering and so that was my first one open in marks spectator wards every year we've we won eighteen words of excellence or other words from boston magazine and really kind of one of my pride enjoys i did cafe tosca right after that which is r  cross the street and we took what was a very very upscale concept called in a cross street i did cafe tosca to service kind of a more day to day market red sauce italian i also own a bakery years we've been in the new location for about two and a half years so we went from a thousand square feet to forty thousand square feet over that time but it's a full service just bread bakery but but one of the biggest in the area and we just reviewed some through some of the largest distributors so that community down there and hang them again is very similar to what i think this community would like and how we would interact with this community  and now i want to talk about this particular project if i can and just kind of when you put up the boards and talk about how the common thread to our company is we're very progressive we spend a lot of time on design and hospitality we spend an incredible amount of resources and in getting the best employees and christine will attest to we've won boston globe last three years in a row we have loaned the boston globe award for best companies to work for which is a very hard thing to get and we have full we pay our police well above what the market looks like more designs all over the world he did tosca for me he did empire red lanterns and he's doing this project with us and he's one of the foremost interior designers in the world i think and this one kind of shows kind of very high end materials all custom banquettes custom wallpaper custom light fixtures and this is a detail of the upper one is a detail of the bar so you look at the bar seating just i mean for all the presentations i've seen the topics that you've touched on in the depth by far my opinion the best presentation i've seen come in front of us and in my experience i thank you for that yeah he certainly you know to still what chris had did the passion they have i just haven't seen it so thank you for that the big item that we have in front of us is the obviously the the sale of liquor of course so can you just touch on the protocols and the training and short track history that you have with and i'll be blunt serving over serving yeah our people coming in with scorpion balls things like that which which i'm sure you have experience but can you just put us at ease a little bit yeah of course so and the chief and bill had their the same concerns and questions and first of all we said whatever the town rules are here we would it we would adopt and that's what we would look at so we're not looking to do anything outside of what what is the in the legislative here  we went through all the town rules and regulations and they seemed very reasonable randy will be the manager of record and he'll be here running the place as will jason he'll be here pretty much full time so we're committed to this brand we have we are going to adopt i think a machine a mechanical machine just to double check i d s there is a new technology and christine can elaborate on that if you in boston that said they didn't take my id and i was old enough so i said we should start a program where if your idea is rejected that is a false negative that we would reward you with a gift card or one hundred dollars or five hundred dollars whatever but we're very strict about when folks come in we're very strict about we understand that without the license should you granted us we can't really operate successfully it is part of what we do to make a profit is part of what obviously compliments great food and fun environment and we know all the or we appreciate all the the it's the we appreciate all fox cares he's going to do all our tips training and we would continue with that program with him everyone our company is destroyed and they're all tips trained and you know through up fronts which is where the group gets together through e mails and texts and everything they get we really do keep people informed what we're looking for what our expectations are we are not in the under age game we are not in the over service game at the casino they do site inspectors they come into our places every night there's not a night that goes by that i look respect it doesn't come in check i d s check service of people see if there's any beer to be anybody being over served  connecticut has some crazy laws as far as how many drinks you can have you can't grab two beers and walk right so there are very strict and we have here to those laws and they are there literally every night those inspectors and our opinion the more kind of in foresman or friendly unfortunate you have a reinforcement you have make your brand better so you know we like to sleep at night as owners and make sure that our places are run well so the culture of our company is very you know we want be there for twenty years and they are looking license or more and our little license is is is incredibly important to our brand and how we're perceived in the market because if something happens with your little license it's really a black eye or a stain on our you've received a copy of a liquor regulation yeah and you notice that we have restrictions on the size of drinks and stuff so are you into spitting any specialty during that well we have a blot especially drinks we are going to add here to confines of their rules and rad is provided by the board for instance the one and a half ounce shot her drink when you know if it's a shared joint with a mandatory four persons six ounce to the shared specialty joins but if that's something that the any other place that people places serving like that because if you read the regulations it's pretty specific and that was one of the concerns that we've had at those lads drinks sharing those light drinks and that  concern that we've had in the documents that i've read i haven't seen any specific amounts of regulations of the size of the drink but like we said we're we're obviously going to do whatever whatever you guys whatever the town says i'm pretty sure we do basically whatever the rules violation of any and you characterize your establishment is more of a sit down restaurant correct that happens to happens to have a buy correct rather than a buy that happens to have a few tables for m correct and in this particular location we had tons more dining and we we started the minute that menu is a little bit more progressive then or more it is there's more menu items more food menu items than any other place that we have so we have a lot of food items here because we think our our survival is is as dependent on a lot of food i mean it that that's a concern that we no one sit down and yeah of  think when you see the foreplay and you know there's there's a table sit down tables everywhere it's an absolute full service mexican restaurant without it and we think we need tons of families in order to fill the seats in order for lunch y take it very seriously hence the creation of fox cares which we would love it we would expect yeah you guys to participate in it going through your your application we do have  several violations with serving alcohol to minors which we have zero tolerance for we expect we we expect everybody's getting card and that's that's that's always a first step obviously fake i d s and you know parents buying for underage is a different different situation but if if you're not to if you're not going to card everybody and you're not going to be diligent about serving to minors we can end the conversation right here agree no no every one of those violations those people are i d d and have backups and they're on videotape but it's not a defense when you if they're under age so we don't play in the under age game we have too many employees and too much at risk so if you if had seen the video you would see that the server would go to the table they would id them because the folks look young a manager would come over idea them check back up but that's why we kind of went to the machine especially in the city of austin five hundred thousand students and international a very difficult game and so we would serve thousands of people a week obviously you know and boston so there's not an instance in there where somebody did not get aidid or did not show back up for sure so i think we're very diligent about it or just a more difficult game we think if you if you look at our history in hingham which i think is more reflective of here you'll see zero because you're dealing with more community folks people see more  often you know i mean obviously during game days and and things here will have to be incredibly diligent and jason has a full security plan and will have a machine at the door it's a five dollar investment well the machine at the door and we think it's pretty good but servers and been with us for years and they would id and then they would get a manager and they would have idea and you can tell you know when then if an inspector came in it would take them twenty minutes to figure out that by putting pressure on them that they were under age  and you know and kristen can can can talk about what we did piggyback on that but there's a couple of good things about about the institution this machine one is it takes the responsibility somewhat out of someone's bare eyes who does not know this and detection of fake i d s to this machine which is our understanding that it's top of the line best thing out there right now it's my understanding that the b c c also relies upon it when they conduct their own sting operations and different operations of that nature so that's you know as far as mitigating their previous issues that they had at the places and boss and it's it's the best thing that they know out there to obviously idea everyone and run it through this machine which people that know about it especially because boston caters to such a student population international population i d s or fake i d s are easier and easier to get that once they know their taking it to the timeframe we're trying to open for late august so a lot of it of the mill work we've put into order you know these guys have a great to work with because they were preparing with a kind of more progressive  box for us so hopefully we got to jump on it we're pretty good at building it we have a great we're currently building another restaurant at fox was recently about to ring up with guy fieri so that's under construction at the same time so we're doing both concurrently and it's another thing that they're here of course and it's another you know it's for us it was another great brand that we think we've got volved and we've never done a licensing deal with anyone before and we we didn't know who we would do with and we talked to  guy i met with them and they had an incredible organization like really terrific people to deal with them and we were lucky to i think get that brand into to put it in the casino just like we were to do this brand and it's food centric obviously guy fury and  actually it's quite exciting to me and see this because what that means is that we're going to a next level of a restaurant in the in the in beta place which you have already set up so pretty high mark in a lot of places they have up there but i will tell you some motion made seconded conditional license to review the bar menu for all those in favor replace valerie so i was like to say that valerie will be missed for expertise who is just now i don't know how we got to replace all of her knowledge but we will try mom and then prior to that i worked there for ten or eleven years in the mutual fund industry that's pretty much it but i've had some interaction with the conservation board and i've worked with jane on  a few projects that it come up that are relative to the where we're located on bowman's pond ok any questions from the board did one of your sons shame you into running for the scene that he's already on a four year one of your twins yes well i went to school he's got twins i went to school with my two are actually yeah but probably a question for you but i'm assuming being new to the wetlands protection act in going through all those steps are you familiar with that i'm not i'm not you know so so when a new member comes in  table we won it was our rooster what had happened was that our sons and let them out and did put them away one night and they flew up into the trees around a pond and so  three in the morning they started crowing they don't wait for the sun to come out and the people across the pond were a little bothered by it and i mean we were bothered by two of em we got the one we realized these two were roosters  they would crawl literally every ten minutes maybe they stopped for a few minutes but then they'd kick back in and crow for ten minutes stuff a little bit and they still wouldn't go so it was it was a nuisance to watch still but they were empathy when you are a board member in some comes before you yes you know so it's nice to be on one side of the table and when we met with the neighbors at the board meetings we were we worked it out i mean one of them was one of the kids teachers and she would have them for a meal as opposed  made soon also attended the police kickoff for it was a meeting for all the detail officers so great presentation by the chief and the two lieutenants to a representative from each community that provide detail work for us that was really interesting and help me to sit there with so i can craft some interview questions for the next year where resumes are pouring in for all my various positions that are open right now  and most of them and in the next week which is good the process is complete for recreation seasonal hiring so if folks have interviewed for seasonal jobs you'll be getting a letter from last week for instructions on paperwork and setting of retraining and all of that that process went very smoothly this year direct apartment a great job it's the start of our performance review season we are welcoming some in turns and different i will say that the speed limit sign of class mechanic makes you different makes a huge difference because when it first went off i was like wow i didn't realize i was going that fast and three or four reduction in speed i hope we just follow up with them