that we are proposing and it is clear terms it's possible all may also get some input from the from jeff regarding the water and sewer expansion and how inquiry because they asked if water sewer could be expanded and what you found out was that it would be massively expensive but we could do it but then it would basically force the only way to pay for it is that we have a lot of massive development in this area odds are that it's going to be we already have over a burden you know over the overly costly car system and now we're going to incur even bigger capital costs to have even more and then we're going to have this going to try to build out to justify it to pay for that and one is simply we're digging ourselves into a bigger hole in terms of the water system costs and it seems like we've really gotten off the purpose here tonight share their opinions it's probably less to the point of us changing the words because then we'd have to go through a whole nother formal hearing process and that would blow our timeline but it certainly is well within the  to eight percent number because they will never go beyond eight percent so that they don't have to upgrade or don't have to change things so that twenty percent we're running less than fifty percent right now with the expansion out to the is really for our writers who are background to understand where we're going with this but we're already an hour into it that would really like to move on to the actual zoning regulations at this point there is going to be a meeting monday seven o'clock six o'clock six o'clock here but there are a lot of them so i'd like to start getting to the zoning by beginning to address gary's question that he brought up first off which is the mixed use and the concept of the mixed use that we've put forward what it's designed so that if we were to run water and sewer down there one of the most one of these is things to do would be to develop it as residential this thirty acres only and right you don't see the third acre density down there right now because it's on septic and well water as soon as water and sewer are run down there would be quite easy to switch that over to residential at thirty acre density and boom condos or a nice little development which which is fine but it is the gateway commercial district it's a very very very little commercial all land area in richmond as it is this is something that's been designated as  commercial for quite a while and we don't want to lose that opportunity to make it so easy to just immediately flip your house and your property into a little condo unit and and forsake any potential for future commercial development we certainly aren't expecting this to to last him overnight in too much trouble but we don't also wanted to blossom overnight into a certainly don't release comments about it just having seen the rigidly i understood coming tonight was an opportunity to voice their opinions and have those heard of them sort and it's sort of disconcerting to hear that that is not the plan on that we're telling you guys who've already worked on it what we think and you are the most you are the closest to what you see because you produced it rather than bumping it up to the yes we would love to commercial but we really needed a little more residential for us to make this work there really isn't a market you know it the market for a commercial space in this town and while i commercial development in this town but really the developers are saying you know really not sure we can actually do that again why are we going to this huge expenditure of building out that that for a structure it seems a little bit based on the fantasy project and so i'm a little yeah but i do think in terms of the zoning you know to separate the two a bit in terms of the zoning right i think we saw this coming up over and over  me going i want to hear more about what the highway department has for plans for us to get over there yet would you like are they playing to relocate the route of white men or think we owe any business or prospective business any special treatment to get something through quickly i also have concerns and there's not enough room in that park and right now even just a short while after so much money has been spent to build more parking space twice in one week i couldn't leave my car at the at the bus stop so i had to drive my own car and i want to start to be commuting more not  last and we need more parking space out there at the gateway right where the bus comes in or where people can leave their car yeah they could come into the park and out there and during the summertime when it's snow snow to deal with but we need more space to leave more cars not instant keeping them off the roads and so i something needs to be done and the very least pedestrian so we if we were if there were no other place for publication on the playing conditions journal in which the author references are gateway district as a prime example of what town should do by limited water and sewer and requiring hurting  what changes did you make to your proposal after you got feedback winter somebody months out of the year that you have people going to to get a wheelchair or on somebody who may have an issue with walking having to go through ice and snow to go around the building to go into the ground in the cold weather i limits on what can happen and the with the power of limitless can can generate great creativity in problem solving and and new ideas and  it's i mean i can't speak for everybody else but i first when i was i'm willing to go forward and you know that there are a lot of other decision boys who are you know broader and broader groups of people are going to have the good think i got the impression to you'd like to see things even more hold back i think we heard the mixed village was from i think we are both sides of it i think maybe that the majority that gary is bringing up with the road through it i think that's a nightmare to try to do trying to build a road in some of these people's property and forcing them if you did that some of these view of what the allowed uses were so i think there's three issues that the slight would have to look at if they want to change and i think they can handle those just move it forward i mean i don't think we're ready or even consider changes to what we have at this point we could break here go all would like to move the second i think we're ready for the meeting i do to claire do you think you're ready for that