the precincts in arlington and a portion of cambridge the candidates all are independent of jim gamble thank you republican tommy olson both of us who are residents of belmont questions from this mahoney and myself and then a round of questions that the candidates will ask each other and then closing with a few minutes of comments so let's get started with an opening statement from jim thank you thank you thank you very much from franklin in emery my name is jim gamble and i want to be your independent vote at the state house i am running because true independent thought and collaborative action are missing from our political life i have thought for a while that partisanship has made things worse rather than better at the end of two thousand and nine after thirty five years of active service as a democrat i  rolled from the party so that i could encourage nontraditional candidates to run and to serve in the spring i stepped up myself i have been going door to door talking with with thousands of voters and you have you have a confirmed what i thought that you want practical problem solvers first and foremost as your political leaders you also want qualified candidates and  i'm software for the past two years i've been active as an investor an advisor to technology startups throughout new england i'm local for the past twenty six years i have i have lived in the same house with my wife i have lived in the same house with my wife within the district we have raised our four children there we have been active in a variety of school sports and civic groups i'm connected my network x x attends beyond the district and it's and it's been enhanced by two special parts of parts of parts of my career right out of college i joined national national network that that i stay in touch to to visit very day my my second network is right here in massachusetts for the past five years i've been the chief of staff and volunteer treasurer for the visible diocese of massachusetts i now know community leaders of all ages and they end up backgrounds you know serving serving for justice and peace and serving their local communities throughout the state i am reading because i think you want someone like me on the job at the state house when you think of the big problems we have to work on next  rebuilding our transportation infrastructure and finding a large scale cost savings in our health care system i know that i can serve you better than the other candidates there is a hunger for an independent voice and vote for the state and this district has the special opportunity to be the first one to step up and provide it believe me if i win your voice will be  resident of belmont since one nine hundred seventy five my qualifications include my undergraduate degree in english and history i have a graduate degree in education as a reading specialist i have an m b a but more importantly i'm i have had twenty some years of experience of this town meeting in and serving on many boards from traffic advisory in i've served all through the time and probably will continue to serve as we reconfigure to power owed and we've had plenty of input from individuals on on the two pell overwrote issue i served on council on aging i've been a town meeting member and many of you know me from my work founding and producing the pace and park music festival but enough about me i'm running because i firmly believe that this election is about jobs and securing economic security for ourselves and for the state we we have seen nationally fifty three percent of all college graduates are either unemployed or underemployed likewise our parents and grandparents and people on fixed incomes are either jobless or facing layoffs i talk to people in the district who say that their families are working three jobs just to meet expenses i spoke with another family just the other night and they're finding it very difficult living in in  subsidized housing here and belmont we need to look at what's going on in our in our state budget we need to look at how our taxes are being  used recently we learned that forty eight thousand forty eight hundred jobs were lost in massachusetts and unlike beacon hill which takes the government first government always approach i believe that that the approach should be people first people making solutions and then a hand up to those who who need who need assistance i legislature is currently populated with people who think the same way so they always turn to the same old solutions for the same problem for every problem they're neither solution is always bigger and bigger government more and more regulation we have a massive bureaucracy where no one knows who's embrace sponsible for what or can identify mistakes waste or corruption both of my opponents come from the same political tradition they believe that government can fix all the problems and that government would create jobs it needs to always be the first place to look i take a different approach again i believe that people are first and people are the ones who make the solution i've been a small business owner for for decades i know that business is the engine that powers our economy i run a small  approved broker dealer it's a financial firm i'm a very mini merrill lynch i also have an my producer's license i also do compliance for my firm trust me when i say i know regulation we are very regulated in the financial industry i believe the approach to over regulation needs to change i think we need to bring in more tax payers not raise more taxes i understand having worked as a belmont town meeting member i understand that it that it i need to work with many people have divergent opinions and i've done that for the past two decades sal my experience in the private sector my experience serving in municipal government and my two decades of producing founding in producing the impart music fest which is a public private partnership i believe allow me to be your best representative so i thank you for listening and i look forward to the debate and now mr rogers thank you thank you franklin graham thank you to the belmont media center and greetings to my fellow candidates i brought my own personal teleprompter tonight the high tech hero here my name is dave rogers and i'm running for public office because i believe that government at its best should foster economic and educational opportunity for all citizens including here in belmont across district and across the commonwealth and i believe of all the candidates i can accomplish the most good for the district clearly there are big challenges that we face but the good news is that there are practical solutions to these problems what we need is independent thinking and creative solutions while i do have extensive professional experience this is the first time i've office so i will not be trapped by old ways of thinking in addition as a member of the majority party if elected i think i'll have the opportunity to have a seat at the table that the other candidates will not ha fresh ideas and we need them we are still recovering from the worst economic downturn in the past seventy years i get it i have bills to pay i have a mortgage i face the same day to day problems that many if not everyone in the district faces but it is precisely because i face and understand these problems that i'm running i believe in our system of government for all its frailty and for all its i have a substantial background in both the public and private sector for the last sixteen years i've worked as a business lawyer helping organizations solve tough challenges in an international competitive environment with my work at the environmental protection agency i prosecuted corporate polluters holding to account every one so that there is an equal system of justice for all also i will not forget the government can get do great good for those most in need as a child i lost my father suddenly i woke up and he was gone my mom with her courage and fortitude help our family of seven children together but we also depended and relied on his social security survivor's benefits so i've seen how the safety net is not an abstraction and because we got that government help the family was able to florida everyone's gone on to productive lives so even though we live in challenging times i believe together we are going to solve these challenges i believe i bring a unique perspective and an independent voice to this race and i ask for your support thank you now for a series of questions from ms my own and myself and i will start off with the wonky asked question ever but your answers you don't have to solve these quickly these problems all at once we would like a bit basically a flavor of how you would go for to solve these problems so if you can keep your answers down to maybe two minutes two and a half minutes they'll be perfect the first question is for me and it's going to be about debt well most of the henchmen on government obligations have been focused on the federal government in its sixteen trillion dollar debt that's just as cities and towns have their own long term financial time bomb it's known as opap these are obligations to retirees retired employees of towns that include health benefits and insurance payments in the past decade opeth obligations have exploded in belmont was in in in two thousand and ten was one hundred eighty three million dollars and it's only higher today in cambridge they are facing a half a billion dollar obligation in arlington as it is around two hundred sixty million but unlike the federal government towns can't print their own money as opposed to solve this problem recently several people in town government both here in belmont and in arlington have suggested that these obligations are just too daunting and it will be up to the state to bail out these if you are elected do you believe that say that the state should be allowed the city that cities and towns under their from their opiate obligations knowing that the three towns that you will represent have approximately one billion dollars in payments that are due to retirees what do you think there is a better solution we'll start with jim start with the ok great well thank you very much franklin this is this is this is a critical this is a critical topic  i have been working and i've been serving on the belmont capital on down and i'm committee here with treasurer floyd carmen for several years so i'm so i'm so i'm so i have heard quite a bit of quite a bit about this and it's true i think from a state legislator point of view the idea is really to tackle the state's problem first and that is just as daunting as everything you have talked about for every single single town the open numbers for the state  me if i'm wrong but there are about sixteen billion dollars and when you add that on top of the young funded liabilities within our two two or three major pension pension pensions pension systems you're talking about liabilities on the  books just thirty five billion dollars and on top of that you have to realize that we allow the counting of these two to spin those numbers in a more favorable way so if you are really being tied about that we're and so it means that the first and foremost we have to move away from a a pension system for our state employees that is that is that is one hundred one hundred percent i'm one hundred percent i'm defined to find defined  benefit we're only one of fifteen states with a pension system that that way the federal government and all of virtually all of the private sector has a blended model where where there is a guaranteed benefit plus a  know plus and defined plus a defined contribution to the piece basically the issue we have to face with is with those unfunded liabilities massachusetts looks like a giant hedge hedge fund and it's and  it's and it's going to create a large scale financial problem sometime down the road so we have to tackle that first it is going to be a long conversation we have to recognize that what we want to make sure employees get paid fairly fairly get paid get paid fairly for their work but there's going to be half there will have to be a lot a transition period and the fact that we're operating now in an environment with very low borrowing rates makes this the perfect time to step up and challenge and so we can't keep kicking this ball down the road we have to face up now and that if we do it at the state level we  have a model that we can go back to belmont in arlington and cambridge and say this is how we have solved it back in the state why don't we work on a similar solution for you ok that sounds great tommy  had is as you stated one hundred eighty three now and even more now yeah i think i think there's going to be a presentation to the board of selectmen as have october twenty second the state has been looking at that there's a commission that has come out with some ideas and the off the top of my head what i remember most is moving the retirement age up i mean you asked for a potential solution i know they  recommended bunch of solutions but the two that i remember my was to are the removing the moving the retirement age up recognizing that people are living longer and and enjoying it and more useful and productive and also i think there was something that i read that said that although the pre reached the pre retirement age of sixty five is what you would normally think but the group that that is in the preretirement the pre sixty five age accounts for about forty three percent of the costs bottom line here is the state gave gave the cities and towns a couple choices solve it on your own do a design plan or join our our fund our our health fund i know belmont is attempting i haven't talked to arlington about this or and i haven't talked to cambridge but i know that belmont is about to present their new design the difficulty will be as jim pointed out getting everyone on board because it affects two large blocks of very important employees for the state ok thank you for the question of course this is a huge problem but i think it's important to first note some of the progress that's already happening first off in two thousand and nine the state passed pension reform to clean up a lot of uses then in two thousand and eleven there was another major piece of pension reform legislation that should save the state about five billion dollars cumulatively and that raise the retirement age raise the amount that employees have to contribute to their own pension and so that's progress but i th key overall is to controlling health care costs as a whole of course the state when mitt romney was governor passed a major piece of health reform legislation to expand coverage however the other riddle the other piece of the puzzle is cost and the legislature just passed a huge cost containment bill over three hundred fifty pages which i think could become a model for all forty nine other states what it does is ties payments moving away from a fee for service model to alternative payment methodology so even if you've ever scrutinized your own medical bill each line item every blood draw every diagnostic has its own cost many public policy experts feel this is driving up costs and inflation in the medical sector is much higher than almost any other sector of our economy so we need to give this bill which was just passed into law signed into law by governor patrick time to work it establishes electronic medical records statewide it ties the inflation rate of medical care to our gross state product so that it cannot rise faster than economic output rises finally we passed municipal health for reform legislation recently to which arlington promptly took advantage of and belmont did know way too and using it in negotiations with employees because the municipality can move employees into the g i c the state insurance without making it a matter of collective bargaining even though some of my constituency is a democrat would have opposed that and lobby against it i would have voted for it i also would have voted for the pension reform and as tommy indicated there is a commission right now look opeth it's doing detail work the report is due out in november and i am open to other ideas to reform the system consolidating pension boards i don't know that we need pension boards at every different level so there are a variety of things  and i'm an innovative thinker i'm not walked into old ways of thinking about solving problems and not my attitude and it's a pragmatic problem solvers approach from my business experience that you have to put all items on the table and look for the best solution ok thank you very up welcome everybody in your opening statements you shared with us your respective experiences and backgrounds so now my question is this what do you think is the most pressing problem facing the commonwealth that affects this district and how would you solve it using some of your professional or your community experience and let's start with tommy what do you have i think i might the theme of my answer is going to be jobs i think that even in wealthy belmont we are seeing people struggle whether they're struggling from having lost their job having kids at home who haven't aren't are unable to get jobs i think jobs is the big issue how would i solve it i really think we need to bring more tax payers in to to the commonwealth and the way you do that is you create an environment for for small business to thrive one hundred forty thousand businesses in massachusetts one hundred thirty eight thousand of them are small businesses those hundred thirty eight thousand small businesses employ fifty percent of our people we are chasing people out of massachusetts we bring more tax payers into massachusetts you have more problem today is making massachusetts competitive and bringing more jobs to massachusetts ok thank you tommy davis thank you it's tough to pick one but i think that's the question to pick one major issue and so i guess i would start with transportation study after study shows that economic growth arises from investment in transportation and we have a t v that is in crisis the m b t is five point two billion dollars in debt the operating deficit this year was one hundred sixty million and it's forecast to go much higher so if you think the debates and discussions we had about fare increases excuse me and service cuts were difficult this year it's only going to get worse but we know what's a driver of economic growth we know it's critical for quality of life to get cars off the road and prevent the congestion i mean she's always look at the circle at two and sixteen and three where it meets i mean it is becoming unbearable and that's a huge quality of life issue and of course it's an environmental issue all those cars idling spewing exhaust is not good for our environment so it's a cross cutting issue that we need to solve now one approach has been is currently being tried in chicago it's a public private partnership mehram emmanuelle has announced a seven billion dollars plan to get private industry to invest in transportation i'm not sure of whether it will work here but it's certainly worth exploring and it's the kind of dynamic independent innovative thinking i'm bringing to this race the other thing we could try is to allow the regional transit authorities around the state to levy their own local fees to support their systems their systems are in just as much trouble as our own if that happens that will free up resources for the m b t and the solution has to be a statewide solution because of the hundred sixty members of the house for instance maybe thirty five to forty percent have a district that somehow touches the t but the other sixty percent do not so legislatively just counting the votes you're not going to get a solution for the tea unless you have a comprehensive system that legislators in other parts of the state will vote for another idea if casinos get up up and running i  would have been opposed senos had i been in the legislature but if they get up and running take the state's portion and invest it in something productive and so that's another idea i think the as a as a light just a feel for what you w transportation committee and work on it ok jim so why don't i why don't credit rap rap these a rap these questions are just in just in just in one package because really the most important thing for our be able to be able to work and thrive and i just have a great great time so i think i think it's really making sure that we leverage all of the great businesses and and education and the institutions we have in this part of the state and make sure we're doing everything to make it make it an attractive place and so to sum it up to i mean to to really say what the state and the state reps should be doing we shouldn't be messing that up you know we have to make sure that the government really works well that it stays focus on these core functions like the transportation like the case through twelve schools like like making sure we have we have got the right kind of right kind of them job we have to have the right kind of job growth and we have to make sure that we've got a viable long term financial future and that's but and the only way we can take care of that is by tackling some of these long term financial problems that franklin franklin raised back in the first through the problem so so the whole thing is to be and effective on government i feel with forty years of one party rule here with a culture of wrapping political power so tightly within the house within the office of the speaker and the senate president we no longer have a we know we no longer have him democracy i can state house you know we have everything that talked about and decided behind closed close our doors even junior members of the of the democratic caucus don't have any real role and so we need to bring the independent voice and vote we need to change the way politics is done on massachusetts so we and start really focusing on all of these problems and that's what is what is going to make belmont a very doma and arlington and cambridge we're all part of part of this is going to make it just a great place to live ok thank you very much then enter and know that what we're going to do now is ask individual questions a question not for the group of preach individual and really know the of some questions for for da ok i do since we're in belmont right now if elected what would you do at the state house that would specifically benefit belmont given that that is the biggest geographic portion of this district absolutely  thanks for the question and it's great to be in belmont and i've spent a lot of time here lately and it's a wonderful community and what makes a community great are the communities people i just was at belmont service the other day we went around delivering food picking it up deliver food pantry work with jonathan jacoby and we went around he said also a member of belmont against racism talk for hours with lori graham chair of the school committee gotten to know her in the pressing issues facing the belmont in terms of education so the things i would do that was specifically benefit belmont we just talked about transportation that's a huge issue for belmont another thing is there's an upcoming capital improvement project to the minuteman school if the funding formula for that is not changed belmont will be on the hook for millions of dollars whereas the communities that also send students but are not part of the regional agreement won't have to pay a nickel the cost varies i've seen different numbers but will be at least i think four million and  maybe more and in arlington it'll be even worse another thing is to fight for our fair share here of local aid you know the belmont foundation for education a private institution started off to just pay for enrichment just to pay for those extras now the belmont foundation for education is paying for whiteboards paid for matt i talked to a supporter of mine a friend of mine on the on the foundation i said well why maps and she said well the old ones had the soviet the predecessor in this office as as made her role like efforts to try to save that land and i'm a business lawyer and i'm in favor of development and economic growth to attract people to our state and to our area but that's development in the wrong place at a cause flooding traffic and destroy one of our last urban wild so i walked back there with emory lambert from the beaumont so this is for me it's a it's a beautiful place there's a lot of biodiversity so there are countless projects i want to work on to specifically benefit doma i know i don't live here but i it i get the belmont is the heart of the district i'll be here so often you'll think i'm the delivery guy you know and i plan to work hard for this community and this community will be well represented by me you can really do i guess another question sure  about we'll just go right down the line tommy massachusetts is effectively a one party state could you answer how you go into the state house as a republican and would work with the other people at the state house and provide an opportunity for everybody's voice and viewpoint to be heard well i i think i first of all as a republican i would more than likely have more senior opportunities being appointed because you know there aren't very many republicans incidentally but in terms of of everyone's voice i've always listen to everyone's voice i i i have a lot of involvement in the community and i've always been able to you know respond to people's needs i had a question the other the other day of a young woman who's at i don't know if this is where you're going with this but as an example she started college didn't finish it has some special needs is looking for her next step and i committed to her to check into minutemen because i believe minutemen used to have an after high school program for residents and as dave pointed out we need to do something about minuteman formula that nine seventy three formula doesn't serve anyone well i've often thought and mentioned even a town meeting that you know we might want to look at it more the way charter schools get paid so that  the funding wouldn't come from the sixteen towns but i think in answer to your question working across the aisle i think i have i think i've demonstrated in my work on coun aging i've been an ardent supporter of maintaining that budget which is minuscule compared to our eighty million dollars budget it's only three hundred forty three hundred sixty something in that range of which forty percent goes to transportation for seniors now you would think that a republican wouldn't want any fat but i honestly believe that seniors need to be need to have transportation services i also you know so i believe a lot of my social interests would make me very capable of working with people who were not republicans ok ok jim in your last response you alluded to bringing in families and homeowners as new taxpayers from massachusetts let's talk about business massachusetts and don't want to particularly has a reputation for being not business friendly  do you have any ideas for changing that and therefore attracting more business tax payers what about i'm i'm i'm somewhat i'm somewhat i'm surprise surprise when you were saying that because my neighbor   made seven separate investments and what you know what's true about a someone trying to start their business is that they're just totally focused on that and i think that if you're hearing from business people who are talking about i mean they they are going to be focused on on no i'm just trying to start their business they will they will want to have as as much help help as possible but their success is going to be based on that on the on the time and work that they put into it with belmont we pretty much built up most of our land here and so i mean we are known as a town of homes but the people who live in sleep here also work and they work in you know all the surrounding towns so i think as you know certainly as a state rep we have three different cities and towns that we have to we have to deal with and and as part of the larger  governing board for this for the state we have to think of the whole state so you know whatever you know pro whatever difficulties there may be about starting new businesses here and belmont because we don't have  the right land or something else that's that's not that's not the big issue the big question is how can we make the region work and by that i mean that goes back to making sure we have those core pieces of our state in structure working in format you know and we because because i think it gives us a sense a sense of sense of impersonality is indeed you and i have certainly gotten gotten to know each other well because because because we have both been traveling throughout the district ever since last last last may i think i've i've been i've crossed paths with you quite a bit and we've been talking to the same people and i think we have been hearing hearing the same things and so you know when i was listening to your opening i was hearing you talk about the independent voice and being open and innovative and i thought you were about to i thought you were about to come out and come out and come out and in in the door for me because because because those are the same those two measures you had talked about in two thousand and ten they would have they would have been mad if i mean they were not happy when the collective bargaining agreement was modified and the pensions are so i'm just i'm just i just hear it in your campaign talking echoes the same sorts of things that i'm hearing on the campaign trail and so when and i just want to sort of push you to tell us what is what is your own creative thought that you're you know that you were bringing bringing here yeah well maybe the first thing you saw was from a teacher's union but my first announcement that i was going to run and i can tell you why i'm running which is i believe that i have a lot of dynamic innovative ideas to help our society to help our people here in the district if a union indorse me that doesn't mean i adore staff there are some things that teachers unions favor for instance smaller class sizes i'm in favor of that more early childhood education i'm in favor of that study after study shows that early child intervention early childhood education is enormously beneficial but i work in the business  world i'm a practical problem solver if if there's an issue that comes to me that i don't think is in the best interests of this district i'm not going to vote for it even if the union supported i gave three examples i think just in our talk today of things that i would support by union support there are other things i would support but the key is that i approach every issue with an open mind gather information from all the relevant stakeholders analyze the data i was like you have an economics background as well i studied economics and work for wharton econometrics a spin off from the wharton school was founded by a nobel prize winner in economics and i'm a very data driven person i look at the data carefully when i make decisions so i'm going to approach every decision with massachusetts in two thousand about two thousand and fourteen will run out of money and because of that we've been borrowing we've been borrowing heavily message has been borrowing heavily took down the rainy day fund we have virtually  we will have a short fund a short fall excuse me so how would you address we still have obligations to me how would you address meeting those obligation so if that process feels any one year we're going to run out of money then you know so it's so so there's nothing magical about that date and i think what we have to do that the next state rep has to be so fully ingrained in understanding what the budget process is and making sure that we fulfill the constitutional re re re requirement to have a balanced budget while we also make sure that we provide all the necessary co services and bend and into the end of the safety net i would urge people to take a look at my website because because i actually have you know have a rather lengthy posting there that has my own thoughts about what the budget process is like but i but i but i sort of question the is the assertion that there's anything special about two thousand and fourteen fourteen but instead you know making sure we have a sound budget that works for the state is something we have to do every year and it's and it's and it probably is the most important job of a state rep stand by my answers ok dave would you like to have a tommy question  sure i think well first of all it's good to see you actually i should mention i was out knocking doors on tommy street she saw me pull up and we went in and we had we had a bite to eat together so it was  x increases are there are there any taxes that you that you wouldn't cut taxes that if you had the opportunity that you would not decrease question right i don't think so i would i think the income tax i'm not going to answer to a different way and come to actually be rolled back to five percent i think taxes in general are regrets and i think that as i said more taxpayers more people employed brings more money into the state now does that mean that i would be in favor of cutting services no i'm not in favor of cutting services but i do think there's opportunity to look at efficiencies having been in town meeting for a long time people i'm sure have heard me say why are we doing this how come it costs that i was a little more vocal i think at the very beginning than i am now i'm a little more mellow but i do think that we need to give people a  understand why we continue to talk about raising taxes when so many people are unemployed or underemployed and we're chasing people out of the state so off the top of my head i can't think of any that  sure i notice and actually question that you have served as to the question of the week on the m b t your how to solve the problem one of the options you mentioned was that you'd be open or that you would  taxes and i wonder if you thought through how many cents a gallon you would raise them and and roughly how much revenue that would generate sure i mean that the that that the answer there and this is this is i mean now no i'm just saying twenty five million dollars now as you had noticed that was that was down at the very end talking about after after every every other thing we had gone through and i think it's important to  o talk about the transportation system says system two and that the first thing we have to we have to tackle is how do we raise productivity and raise safety as well too and that's going to be done through that's going going to be that's going to be done through done through in technology we have to have more we have to we have to build a different kind of system that can run and transport people at at a much lower cost  which is which is probably which is going going going out to mean a lower lower people meaning trains back in a long long time so so if we have the product productivity gains there and then we also start tackling the the questions that the burdens of the of the young funded pension liabilities that if we solve those two to a problems first then we can start to figure at other ways of them closing gaps you know we will always live in a place where fares should not cover cover the full cost because a a first class transportation system is critical for us being  a first class city you know my son is twenty two he doesn't have a driver's license yet because he uses the t for all his for all his own travel on m m a m m a constant user of the seventy eight and seventy six just just as well so when we start making sure that that we that we can't go to fairs we have to we have to start working we have to start i have to start working on down the line and i think want some concrete action towards global warming to start talking about talking about the benefits of that and if you take a look at our surrounding states every state with the exception of  with the exception of a new hampshire has a substantially higher gas you know gas tax than than we are so if we so if we do something like that we won't get into border wars there you know mike whitmer is not going to be happy with what i say next but if it if it makes it work politically i would be open to you know having the occasional occasional gas you know gasoline gasoline gasoline gasoline tax holiday that if that is something that that i necessary to create a political deal the other i mean the whole transportation financing problem which you had talked about as being a major focus for next year is more than just the the  know issues that drivers would wish there that we didn't bring up but just to be responsible all of those must be on the beyond the table well thank you very much franklin and jim tommy it's great to be here and thanks for those of you watching at home i hope you found it informative and interesting it's clear to me that the constituents of this district want a strong dynamic voice advocating for them as a state representative to the people of belmont i offer myself as that voice i offer my experience that experience includes service in all three branches of government legislative executive and judicial and i offer my experience in the business world currently i work for a family on manufacturing from where i've been for eight years we compete all over the world and i see the challenges we face and i see how international issues can translate right down to the local level so i'll always be a voice for making smart regulations and economic growth and i offer my strong work ethic and my ability to collaborate to help find viable solutions for the well being of our society and i offer my enthusiasm and my compassion for the neediest amongst us again my name is dave rogers and i hope to get your vote november sixth thank you thank you da tommy thank you dave and jim for our spirited exchange of ideas on november sixth voters will have a choice between two very different visions my opponents would continue failed policies which chase business  jobs and taxpayers out i believe i have a different vision i believe we need to reform the way we do business in the state streamlining edge streamlining regulations working together with companies to understand how regulations and taxes fecht them i believe that regulators need to work to work with businesses to make sure that that they come into compliance with reasonable regulations and yet be strong advocate you know i don't want to make it sound like a we need to throw out all regulations but at any rate i think we need we need to treat the job creators as the enemy in the process as your state representative i would promise you three things accountability accessibility and autonomy as a financial services professional i understand what it means to be held accountable for other people's money by regulators and more importantly by my clients i will bring that same sense of accountability to the office of state representative for two decades i've always maintained an open door policy as i've served as town meeting member and on various boards that policy will continue to be my home mark on beacon hill in my twenty years of public service i've never been part of a voting bloc i've weighed in each on each issue on its merits and worked with anyone and everyone to craft ideas that had come fence solutions  i will bring as your state representative beacon hill is desperate for new ideas and a different approach on november sixth i would ask you to cast your vote for people first taking on new challenges it's a very invigorating thing and this is a brand new challenge here trying to run as an independent is is a something new it is going to bring a dyna with in this race and it's also going to bring that same spirit to the state house i am very well prepared to do to her take on this new challenge because of my fact ground because of my local roots and because of my state wide network my purpose is serious that we need to big make big changes in voting for a true independent someone who is someone who is really going to stand there separately is the fastest way to do just that electing me will send a message across the state that voters have figured out how to fix a system that is no longer working and bringing the independent voice and vote to the state house there is this decades long of a culture at the state house where we're power is tightly held within a few hands where we are people even even people of the same party are shut out from the process where we have a health care bill that dave mentioned a three hundred  fifty four page bill that was when i was passed out on a sunday night and people had to vote on that monday morning without even reading it there is no true democracy at the state house and we have to fix that now and if we do with that new strength we can tackle our biggest challenges our long term financial viability we must take this on now to protect our futures you the voters will be the ones who who send me free of all other obligations i will be your messenger but this will be your message vote for me jim gamble the independent on november sixth and bring the full force of open innovative government to the people of massachusetts thank you very much let me thank each of the candidates dave rogers tommy olson jim gamble for having a spirited but well thought out and informative debate this was something that all residents of the district will benefit from remember that i'm tucked over seventeenth as the last state to register you can find