transfer all the wealth to his new corporation so it was when you say you knew you knew he was a writer and director ron paul simon you know i'm not going to i think of i think we should have been allowed to man and and we we did provide to work with with people with the cases from then on and we have an excuse for not a he knows he knows well what they're going to do what the plan is and he doesn't want to be sued so he says so part of part of the deal is i have no li you would take more than more than my clients if you were you would need you need chuckles to do when i think you're right i think the i think you could do that but again why would we do that when we're saying hey collected or if anything was received from there on that it's bogus i mean they received mr posen what the the and just just to go through in the last couple minutes ah we hear the arguing in this is what has been claimed throughout an american national bank never was a lawful secured creditor that were really in the fact there were six specific issues in this case is not about fraud there was no fraud this quarter in its decision the first heal the issue of fraud was irrelevant in the trial court specifically entered a finding of the first order of no form and it's not about amending the complaint motion to amend the complaint after six years of litigation trial judgment appeal  remained wasn't close to timely and couldn't meet any of the standards under six sixteen a or c the those issues are what this case about what what the court's asked to decide in this case is the judge once on to continue the line of credit that's what caused the assignments checks were bounced six hundred fifty thousand dollars checks were bounced in one week and some of those checks were the plaintiffs they knew what was happening what was happening was the secured credit r was forcing the company to make a decision over the contract was that yes yes he ellison doesn't just he was so cross collateralized that really it was for from the perspective of creditors there was no the liquidation did not know is if so what happened was the notices of these signs listed assets and liabilities and ultimately at the end of the day for a variety of reasons that i wouldn't want to go into ultimately at the end of the day the assets proved to be grossly overvalued in the notice it when the assignments were five marco's of thought everybody would get paid including shareholders he was a minority shareholder satisfied through the new work he had done once the assignment started or the yes it may be and then part of it was cash that he came up with on his own it was a loan called taylor bank for eight hundred twenty two thousand dollars paid a little over six hundred thousand dollars for the equipment he got it was not a cash payment that was acquired or the overall settlement with the bank at the end of the day june of two thousand and two there's an agreement signed with the bank on its defendant's exhibit fifty it lays out everything and at the end of the day when that settlement agreement was done g s t in belsen still owed over two million dollars and the only it wasn't the the scheme of marco's and the high records that's not what happened and we did everything we could to get the records but they weren't everything reduced commissions those did show that mark hosenball used some sort of role in those decisions but they were all related to the agreement they were all related to the performance of the agreement in lawsuits that were incurred by t products that were rejected products that were left on the floor products that rusted products that were dirty it was all related to performance on the grounds that there was no evidence that market was innocent knowingly causing all so when you end all of this stuff six million dollars it's not it's well over six million dollars i mean why would why are we to believe million dollars to each of the relatives that million and eighty one thousand you got as credit the the five with the the six hundred thousand dollars a for five million dollars of inventory and the three point eight million dollars and i didn't worry but the equipment and the but the three point eight million dollars that he had received an inventory you know there's nothing fair it's well over five million dollars to six million and there's go there is absolutely there is no off roast overstatement of numbers these are the facts this is what this is what they revealed was the little that they did reveal to us and incidentally would when we deposed him and that's why they went to the bank to see if they could find some of these records