in the hands of the new people's army a small communist group left spread given widespread violence all over the philippines what really made them come to the us is the murder of the their son and two nephews who they believed to be at the hands of the new people's army the new people's army try to convince them or try to indoctrinate them to join their group the opposed  and asked retaliation their son was murdered and that's why they made the decision to get out of the philippines and come to the united states now during the trial of this case it was very the father convinced the two nephews to join him to become an informant for the government informing the government of the activities of the n p a and because of that we tallied against the nephews and they were murdered as well board affirmed without a separate decision this case the court is reviewing the immigration judge's decision the immigration judge not only found no per past persecution but he also found no well se the reason why the petitioner himself and his daughter who are also in the case came to the united states rather petitioner said he became an informer against the n and he did that for six years and then only at a later point one nine hundred ninety when it became very dangerous then he was motivated to come to the united states in our view this case can be decided on the well founded fear aspect a lo the immigration judge page sixty one and sixty two of the record cited extensively to country reports and i'd like to just read some of  case because it has to be individualized it's a little bit different from some others because he testified and his test of testimony was credited by the immigration judge that the police told him that he was not safe anywhere in the philippines and o immigration judge was saying about the country reports but in addition the immigration judge also on page a our sixty two mentions that there were further developments even later that the philippines that had several evidence of being threatened after i think you said this is what his sister in law had reported that people were looking for him as late as i think it was nine hundred ninety seven but the situation was already declining with the n p a at that before that point and now the n p r isn't really exist at all as a viable organization so there really isn't much of a reason today well right but even at the time the hundred seventy that's from page one fifty in the strait of record however it's sort of interesting there's another part well two things here one is that during the same testimony the petition conceded that his adopted daughter and his wife's sister themselves had no problems they were still back in the philippines that's it page one fifty six of the administrative record now in addition there  something at page one sixty two and one sixty three of the administrative record and this is not talking about the sister in law but it's talking about someone else a friend i guess they lived in this friend's house for a while and the friend claimed the n p a people were coming in looking for them ok here's the testimony ok your friend informed you that the n p a found you how did he know because you know this community who's staying here and these were faces suspected cases there so if that's the sort of basis that's pretty slim to identify other people  a on that basis there's nothing more in this record then than that sort of suggestion about the sister in law claiming that people are looking it so it's just his testimony about what the sister said and there's not an affidavit or a declaration or anything more definite therefore we believe that this record does not compel under a correct understanding of elias zacharias a reversal decided about change conditions and i think that that was all totally supported by the evidence in the record how do you distinguish the the discussion one is that the death of the son isn't really directly connected as i was trying to suggest before with what happened to him now but how to not use i'm sorry the nephews and well the nephews there is more in the briefs than there is in the murder of the nephews who are associated with him constitute enough under to establish that persecution i guess under under what the what the immigration judge is saying here if you if you accept that it's correct then probably it is ok just to be would you have any questions i happening in the country are right now there are just recently in the new some bombings that have occurred in metro manila possibly some by terrorist groups such as obviously and possibly by the n b a still probably investigation there are still isolated incidents in the countryside