this is an appeal of principle my client's paying me more to come here and argue than the underlying sanction but he feels strongly that he tried to do everything possibly right in this case illinois and he says it's not unusual when someone doesn't pay their taxes for three years that even the probably burns down demolished so this one just didn't raise any red flags for them because it happens probably three or four times a year  you know when probably people aren't paying the taxes normally the property becomes non maintained there's fire my client's not from cape town he relied on someone more familiar with a company to go to the service and have been trying to notify these windows my client had no reason to want to not notify all he wanted requirement was required sent to mr lisi but he went ahead and did that too because he wanted to make sure that these people were notified that hey this is serious attacks the fish and then the court turns around and hits my client although i don't know that i am i just realized that actually sitting here two minutes ago that hey i don't i'm not even so sure the court had jurisdiction to ensure that the rule won thirty seven   and i think obviously the more unusual or the more out of the normal the alleged fact is that the more reasonable a standard would require one to investigate if my neighborhood if a client comes in and tells me the state of illinois where everything he had his file and it's all in the record he had a picture of this house with the address and big bold letters want to force out there three this is the little town of for an illinois hard to get lost in for  comment from a process server empty lot garden growing up and that's it it based on that he under under his and this was in this process was  twentieth and some four months later he had to take a couple hours out of his day to drive a freind of to see how in the world this is happening even if you accept his testimony at face value that this happens to three or four times a year he also testif he does two thousand of these every year it's a very unusual of them he didn't pick up the phone he didn't he didn't call his process server to the rule one thirty seven hearing he didn't testify that even call this processor and say how in the world what are you sure you got the right address what this is supposed to be a nice house with people live in what's going on here nothing does absolutely nothing and he represents the board he doesn't represent the board that i have been told he said he file case isn't solely about that there are clearly in this record out right i can't be polite about this outright falsehoods outright lies to this court that were made located he tells the court that he is served all notices required of the tax code as he stood there and told the court that under oath through this report of proceedings he was well aware name is on the record memorandum is prepare three years earlier not one iota of evidence that i had anything to do with this property had any interest in this property was still representing either of these parties to this well attorneys need to have lines i was representing anybody at that point in time and i had no authority or duty obviously i forwarded on as it to the clients but also those clients would have been justified than the certified mail take notice and that's not the only notices that the tax code requires the tax code requires actual service just like in a mortgage foreclosure or any other you can't take a person's real estate just based on a certified mail notice you have to specifically incorporated as the owner's in part it's an interest the civil practice act with respect to service so even though he represented that he had served these parties this record shows he had never serve a login anywhere he did issue this one process to the church to serve a collage he knew the house he knew they had sold three years earlier but he needed time to serve them at the address he had for them another as i said a tax code requires strict compliance there's a very just how strict it is oversight by a very recent first a district case was just decided in november eighth i shepherd i was there yesterday it hasn't been appealed or fishery here and like all these possession of the property when the time of redemption will expire is imperative and a notice which specifies the wrong day cannot be regarded as any notice whatsoever here literally we have no notice whatsoever and he knew he has a corporation who buys these taxes but obviously he would have to hire an attorney to go to court to it if he pursued it in the name of the corporation so he has just flown corporations assign tax be the certificates to then he proceed pro se is a professional tax fire he relies the courts of this state are an integral part of his business he couldn't obviously as attack professional catch fire couldn't exist without the assistance of  billows were had any record interest in whatsoever the church had another piece of property at a different address in money which he was well aware he had that address and in fact that's where he sent the certified mail take those two although he never attempted to serve them with a stated was in this was in the thirty days of obtaining the city with no service whatsoever no notice whatsoever to either of the parties in interest here on that's one thing he also he also filed in the  that when i call him up he wants ten thousand dollars he has five thousand dollars and is now he says oh i just guessed that figure of ten thousand dollars when that is flat out rejected he said well i want to thousand dollars more than what i'm entitled to under the law the fifty one hundred dollars in taxes and interest and frankly my clients weren't going to give in to a distortion they never had any notice whatsoever of this proceeding they were wired under the law and they said no court that oh a lot is a home is a lot of money we have made no inquiry when you're when you're blind we rely on someone's sworn statement from a process server you cannot get in front of a court and tell the court that you've serve every everybody in interest in this case when you know nobody none of the parties in answer is a contradiction over the contract buyer have received any notice whatsoever get a taxi based on that find out for sure affidavit stating that basically he's relying on the process server who has indicated that it's an empty lot secondly my client didn't comply with all requirements of service hundred statute assuming it was an empty lot certified mail is to the church who decided not to claim and then attempted personal service on any but what we do know is first of all my client never extorted and i take objection to that he simply said i don't have the found time i don't know how much taxes there are i'm guessing it might be around ten thousand up when he he complied with every statutory requirement under the tax code including publishing it twice in the newspaper i just don't believe sanctions are justified when he's done