tonight any comments on the minutes of the september twelfth two thousand and thirteen meeting hearing no one can give more to pleased to prove corner so that there is no confusion for drivers at the intersection and do want to point out that according to the valleys they can have a bull's eye and they're not going to budge on is that that's correct buying pieces and going to their love for shared access shared parking there's an existing pole site here which we have a picture of that and they've agreed to take that  one and i think that we have some paperwork that shows that but there is not this room really they could technically if they wanted to they could park in front of the main building in front of the sixty six hundred square feet it's not exclusive for it is a parking space close by that building i wonder if we calculate this within fifty three and adding to restaurants in that area is this the calculation  for as we can make a recommendation to that i mean i would like to see people go to the movies these are some great restaurants great concepts they have here i can see this being a great honor but you know i'm just accommodations so people can get it out easily it's just an idea on the part you know sort of hi my name is michael tack a son with civil environmental consultants we're assisting collaborative ventures in this redevelopment of the site two things i would just want to make to that i think that's a that's a valid idea to try to actually sign employees spaces but i really think that the users themselves the not the users but the businesses themselves would be the ones who would want to actually enforce that it's obviously not a good business if all of the upfront spaces are taken up by the employees i don't necessarily know whether the township would have to physically  enforce that or whether the tenants themselves are the ones who are actually going to be the ones dictating where their employees would want to park the reason i say that is because it's still it's going to be kind of amorphous as to how many employees are truly there and i don't want to dedicate a spac probably a family intersection which we all know mcmurray nineteen is the intersection there we're going to make this work and i have great restaurants and grew retail here we need to make sure it's safe for people to get in and out and are there in these parts this is just some pavement back here in the back right now this is all closer to open up here we also are making a more effective use of the park and on this pment when the land on you come back next month but just for kind of sake of of what's there today and what's going to not be there and being proposed we are closing off the curb cuts the  cuts in this area were stalling the continuous landscape buffer obviously not planting inside the actual right of way of bend on it but outside of that we have a ten foot landscape buffer that even outside of that all the way to the actual curb line of these mcmurry we will it will be landscape it will be lawn in that area so we're really looking to kind of take pavement out of it and soften that out i think with that these parking spaces will be much more viable than what they are today because today there's just a gigantic sea of asphalt out there that's broken up it's crumbling half of the stripes are there half the stripes are not we think that will actually wind up with a lot more effective use of parking in the front currently in discussions with penn not they have made no no implication of needing to do any restriction i think that for the purposes of actually getting in and out of the development we we fully intend to one line but when you're out there it appears as this as if they are two separate entities if you passed that entrance up there's an angle to that other drive i'm not going to say that anybody that you couldn't do it but you wouldn't be it into the site from where they're going to be slowing down and it's going to be an impediment to northbound traffic coming through a change of signal you're talking about on on route one talking about on route nineteen yes you can make a ee is when you get a change of white if you get people who would come in there you go you get cars that maybe come you know off of these mcmurry who are slowing down to access that driveway and you get people who are to coming down and making a right on you're talking about the one further to the east and say yes or lower does it make sense to give them maybe some just for safety reasons all of them put a sign up think like i understand what you're talking about is a little concerned with especially with the drive through the things backing up and people coming out there are pretty absolutely trying to get in there we don't i think we almost want all mcmurry traffic to use speed up so you can get through it from a transportation standpoint from a design standpoint you don't look at it from that standpoint actually it's supposed to work the opposite way you're supposed to as you enter in through that intersection you're supposed to be backing off the throttle as opposed to being on it you do still have a yield condition to that right turn lane there anyways you have a similar scenario where a car or even accelerating from there because of that short distance they're not going to be getting there  really getting up to that much speed anyways it's unfortunately it's bits and just the nature of driving it's incumbent upon that approaching vehicle to take the proper steps to to decelerate if they do see a vehicle entering in there i just don't think that there's going to be anything we directional sign here close to the building we just missed the label here but there will most definitely be a sign here and we will have an illuminated sign also on route nineteen so there we should have three or four i think our biggest concern  with penn dot basically they had only the only thing we really need to do with them at this point is to come in with the nature of p to close off the curb cuts because that will be work within the the right of way they did not have any any other issues or comments with the plan with the traffic generation numbers they basically just said submitted a g o p to do the closure work for the openings and that was all that they were i'm not certain i understand the bottom the bottom to me would be to be nice to the road and you mean it is fair here but if you have access to this aren't you going up a grade not sure which direction you're coming off yes they don't want their employees taking the main sponsor fro recommendation yes you can you can recommend condition the head this is the the front elevation to the to users you know obviously clever venture still in discussions with with these tenants and potentially other tenants so those are just kind of placeholders on here at this time i don't know that there's anybody who's completely committed to where i can say this person is going here and this person is going there maybe by the time we get to your meeting next month with the land of own plans will be able to but in general this just shows the modifications to the facade of the building it shows the raising of the roof and the mansard application has be put on the top as you can see from here from the street level the mechanical equipment will be invisible completely hidden really the original one we had some sand in had a just a screen around it but we had discussed  with the township and just what the architect and believe that the mansard was a better approach so that we didn't just see a screen around mechanicals in this case she wouldn't even know the mechanicals are actually there on the roof itself thanks the the  other thing i want to just make sure that i'm i'm clear on that you know this renovation of the building this is still the the real core of the existing olding this building is not being raised in its entirety in a brand new structure ground so i think i would have to guess six feet maybe seven feet the stucco here we're actually going to be removing the roof entirely and then raising the building so this stucco is going to go up about another five or six feet and we fully understand the importance of this corps i think the last time we stood before you we understood that you know the four corners of the crossroads is extremely important so we understand what it means to do  significant substantial job in terms of what we're putting on the corner so why try to do it right and save this garners us are very critical because many kids commute to school in that area so favor there was a couple of comments mainly from our council dealing with the impacts more infrastructure so we're working our way through that and hopefully going back to council here in the next one we're reconsideration of adoption just let you know stand on that and that's all i have right now