split on well batman superman it is very much a comic book movie as in it views like reading a comic book event it is not really  it's more it's much more like avengers of like avengers age of ultron two got like really subdued with everything going on like it was almost like two hours and there's too much going on there's too much of a story and of the story they had wasn't particularly engaging across the movie and it was like you kind of got bogged down in the details were this a lot of details very dense lot of information but you spend some time going wait what are you talking about like sometimes you rea really crammed a lot into it it was longer than i didn't know how long it was going into it so it was a two and half hour and a half hours long but i liked it i didn't think i was gonna like it i thought it looked kind of i don't know it just didn't seem it's a tough thing to pull off there's different things the public isn't better than the batman suit sort of looks like the iron man hulk buster uniform yeah but i mean it's very much from like i mean that's part of like that really it's hard to get into a whole batman scheme of like is batman really a superhero like is he really a superhero and some ways he's not he you know i believe you like google like why is he superheroes like super detective skills and unlimited wealth so it's like oh well all right then but no i thought it was i was really good i thought it did a lot of teasing for the future a lot of upcoming d c movie events that are supposed to becoming the dawn of the justice done of justice you know justice what you know and so on but i mean i was really good i was really i mean i talked to call him and he said he really liked it like he really i mean but there are things like he was telling me things and i'm like well i'm going to remark on the book because i didn't pick up on that but there's a lot of like if you're into comic books in the people in the characters it be great if you're just like some casual fan or like just somebody going to the movies i can see where you will even go  i don't know but that is very very different now just fit into man of steel like is it kind of follow right after mass deal yeah well actually like it kind of starts with mass with man who feels like it kind of the movie this movie starts with the ending a man of steel like the battle and what's going on in you know kind of wised that man in the world mad superman kind of a thing and i mean a flash like i like those little no but it does it does a really nice job i got i thought it a really good job of i mean it really smashes a lot of stories together it's definitely more than just dark knight returns the frank miller stuff but it's got some of that in there it's definitely got i mean i don't want we haven't seen them in a while but about ben affleck as an actor as a batman he was he was good he was fine wasn't i mean so often you go and you're like i'm going to not like this so what's the standard of good enough batman where would you put the good enough batman he is not keaton so he's worse than keaton i don't even know if he might be that i have stuff to say because does that mean you watch the batman movies now they're so different in your member they did age well they did not age well he's gotten out bail but bail is really i think really so much of the movie that the source of the batman in the movie is is picked up or dropped by the movie itself because i think everybody would say documentary george clooney or terrible batman well see what the movies themselves are awful so know again i would i would put it differently i thought the valid kilmer movie was better than his performance so i think he gets a little more credit than his performance was and i think george clooney is batman is not as bad as the movie was yeah i mean he gets a little more abuse than how bad yeah i mean i was there too probably you know and it's tough to say i mean frankly they were both failures comparatively speaking yeah i mean he's it's not bale but i think bale really gets picked up and he's good he's really good in the film but he would act as a film director when he gets picked up by the films and the other people in the menzies and nolan's vision i mean no one was an executive producer on this or no one was tired of this somehow but less forgiving like superman i hate to say this you're not going to be good enough because the role is built to fail it's eat can't be that perfect superman and even you know i like i like the new guy see i don't i do not was not just unmemorable it it had no relationship to anything it was like let's totally recreate story of superman the never really existed and we'll put that out there and sort of change everything about the character good idea that sounds great and just failed timeout valko more than twelve point i was thinking you know i will say though that i think both of them were very good bruce wayne's but it felt like yes when he came back man they were less believable less interesting whereas michael keaton was able to do both right you felt the red eye does a pretty good job ok i mean but but again the movie is just this movie is way better  i mean justice league as i found out it was always called justice league of america until relatively recently it became just the justice league and then there was a spinoff of justice league of america which was the old but anyway they were not  good they didn't have good stories they didn't tell great they were just kind of plodding along doing their own thing and it was all the other ancillary stuff like you said the dark knight returns killing joe some great all that stuff seemed to be like on off shoots until relatively recently that the stories have really picked up in the normal books so to speak read through much of that most of that any of that the stuff from the eighty's and ninety's i mean i've read some of them i've read i've read of it i've written not nearly as many as i should have know like i didn't read i mean i just have to pick up miller second brilliant one of the first one is the first book and what i thought of it when that first book written like it's in the eighty's does so many exposition boxes so much i mean it's like you know i don't say every candidate now because it's nice words but it is there's a lot of all but i think it's great you're not going to read it quick no and if you do you're missing something because there's a lot of information in there but i don't even feel like i mean those different parts of that taken but they definitely went off from that ok seems almost across the board most of them are hating it and but fans seem to really i should say some of the fans out there are those you know quite a few that hated the move before it was released you know marvelous working in d  been popular for like a long time with readers with comic book fan everything i mean just like not like they've tried a lot of things to make it jazzy and it just doesn't go i mean like d c is really like if you took batman away from d c like i  you have to also take all the batman villains too because so much of the batman is that connectedness and back and forth even things that are no longer a part of that connected batman myth as well i mean really like but like batman is you know has brought oh good it was and as soon as i switched writers after like twenty some issues thirty some issues everybody switch writers and everybody was reading it as i'm not reading it anymore but they really like it was really about like the lore of wonder woman  in the that like that storyline not so much just her and her invisible jet and her last june stuff like that i mean it really got back to like some deeper bigger stories related to her and it was really well received  and mike said then like so many books do they change artist or they change writers and then i'm out like batman changing writers and artists coming up the main batman title so it's going to be interesting they won't like fifty fifty one issues with see this movie i would see it and i think it's a wait i mean you could i mean i like i like batman like for better or worse if it's not like i'm not i would love to quit buying batman the comic book when the artist was good in the movie she was i mean it's always tough like when you when you put all these characters together they're popular like even justice league the comic book before that there was like one of these people was in the justice league and it was like a gorilla grodd and like you know somewhat like you know green lantern green lantern came in for a little bit oh then he left and now we've got some extras hanging out and so once you put them on their own it's very much of a man on his own does not sound like he does with batman you know i mean i'll be very interesting i wonder woman is received without justice in a strange it's just a tough it's just a very tough market it's a very i mean it's just very tough to get people to go twenty five or seventeenth of next year and we've got justice league part one of course i think i will probably go see that and again i gotta get to a point where i see this stuff and then the flash totally different flash march twenty third twenty eighth you want to show on t v you keep telling me it's good keep telling me i should watch i can't even keep up to date with stuff i want to watch and like to watch i hear you you know and again you're talking about comic books not read  lot of people don't know i mean i would like to reserve judgment to actually see him as the flash like see see him as the flash i really like the flash from the t v show and then you have to unite the seven guess i'm doing the size and he was in all this to do just doesn't matter if it's good it's going to be good and that's the way it i mean when i looked at all those marvel movies they were launching and talking about i thought it's going to be even iron man going to see the first iron man i went with a lump in my throat and it was great and since then it's all the stuff they've done has been very good gold it hasn't been officially confirmed by want to brothers it sounds pretty legit this time call the blue and gold legit see lobo that's a movie low that may get pushed further now that deadpool has done a good job was in and then they quit halfway through or something along those lines i thought it was a sandman film anyway boy so it has a mike turned up loud dark universe good gravy this is too much you is it's unbelievable how many characters that i understand but nobody is going to be like you know what's coming out metal man no no blue and gold first we got to see that because that's a blue beetle by i'm going to i don't it's a buddy cop movie with you really get all you need to know by reading the marvel i'm trying to start civil war again and it's starting with a whole comic and it hurts me it's there are some bad stuff in there and i mean i'm looking through this i'm like really what  yeah i was looking at fashion an american sniper still has now turned it in the united states domestic where star was the biggest domestic movie of all time but cannot get the foreign box office dollars to overtake  weekend we have and i know you're wondering was it ever possible that robin givens ernie hudson pat boone and melissa joan hart would be in a movie together the answer is yes because we did god's not dead too and  i have never seen dazed and confused i mean you know i've not we have a chance to watch