trader joe's public hearing actually that's going to be continue to may third so if you're planning on coming for that hold on to may third but we will read the public hearing notice and it'll five n p s l l c will have a  continued public hearing on the application for beyond say a fifteen a change of manager requests for the foxboro country club he twenty five application for a new officer and director for bar louie's at eight thirty porch and i just wanted to say maybe if we kind of brought things back in time a little bit to have the applications go through the normal channel of the approvals of the department heads but then at the end of the day if it could come in front of you folks then there's you know five more sets of eyes on it and maybe the question about the flagpole being two and on and everything going to come up  i did you know bring it to the attention of our board and said you know as that's when the flagpoles was becoming up i don't know if that's going to be in the way and i just want to double check with the selectors office to make sure it's ok so plane so i just want to thank everybody for that but maybe something to keep in mind i mean it is good publicity for the people that do use the comment for different things you know and then you know it just takes a second just like you approved things you know on your action  for the little bit of a glitch on friday as people know we raised the money for the flagpole we hired a vendor to come in and do it so as part of that process at the last selectmen meeting we presented a design for the patio around it bas ically is twenty foot circle that goes around a forty foot diameter so we met out there friday with the d p w staff and jenny john chris myself jack off to let you know on friday we looked at the schedule on this day i was actually going to updates and i was a good time to do it so between april fifteenth and may first we're removing that patio so if you go out there anyone goes around the commons today going to see construction fence dave liberty and his crew removed that area that we're going to replace for the patio between may first and may tenth their contract is going to come in with a crane start the top take down the flagpole dig out the excavation put the new flagpole base in but around that is still going to be the gravel that we pulled up so that's going to bring us up to may tenth may tend to may thirty first we're going to replace the patio so going to have a press concrete with a design on it and chris had brought up an idea rather than replacing the plant around it in kind because right now the ropes are outside and michael johns has a heck of a time to get up yeah in step on the flowers to get up there everything's internal so rather than have that  notch in it we're investing in a large outdoor planters with yourself watering so those are going to go in with a patio between may tenth and may thirty first so on friday we laid out all the schedule in the end of time capsule a time capsule so razor calibers in leading the committee is going to reach out to all the schools all the people and give you the ideas for that so on friday we said you know what scheduled on the common we all looked at each other so jenny took the lead talked to the so i can see office and find out the schedule and they had sent out saying there's an issue here i think what we taught and then monday it was close so tuesday morning is when it  hit and i know you guys had sixteen under showing up yet so as long as everybody knows there's going to be a circle it's going to be on a weekend when people use it we're going to section it off there's not going to be an equipment if people can use the common and stay out of that area if you know there's a senior seniors  think i don't know if was because it was too onerous we didn't have meetings in between you know someone came in for an application so it's trans furred over to the administration to deal with it which is more efficient but it does leave gaps when something like this comes up double booking type issues so i don't know if there's a way to make that schedule a little more available you know we i mean we what we did was we so as not to go on was on the applicants running around getting all the same which is what we're doing now is having to take the application and then item just doesn't you know as a nothing that's coming up next year and i think that would help anyone that using the common for a plant sale or something gets a little more notoriety and a meeting so which brings me to since you've made the trip all the way here from your house you it's climbing so and it's not just jewelry it's everything so we're expecting bigger and better every year so obviously free to get in there you walk around and then you just buy yes things from the tables yes and that's a fundraiser for the issue with it's an idea but two things actually going back to the child sex abuse awareness committee we had a petition a warrant out of clear proof so that's under review by  the attorney general in the house and senate j barrows i want to give a little shout out to him because it's kind of changed a little bit now we've spoken to the advisory committee in the committee ourselves working through this that there was a kind of a dual path going on so th the good news is that warrant article that we presented that is being reviewed plus i'm sure the effort that we did over a million middleborough had the attention of the house and senate through the work of j barrows in the looking at this insane if they approve foxborough does one path if they take it and change the entire state law that's another pass so to j so the good news j put in for a new law that's going to be reviewed by the house and senate over the next month or so going to be reaching out to us to see if we can testify on behalf of foxboro and then if all goes well every town and city in the commonwealth is going to have new standards for child rape sexual abuse reporting and training so i just want to say thank you to state rep barrows and also john walton who's a system that worked a phenomenal effort to get it in so quickly which brings me to another topic and i'll briefly talk about it and we can talk about it at that one of the action items so if you go out to cassatt river park there's a building out there and it was in the news it was the one that was pictured around it and over the last year there's been different ideas to kick around on that building i had the idea of renovating it in making a park out of it and i floated that idea or some people thought it was a good idea every single victim i talked about that it was probably the worst idea our action items so my thought is take that donation in buy coffee and donuts for the community and reach out to contractors in the some people that have come up ready to volunteer some construction equipment bulldozers trucks and dumpsters and then just get that building the hell out of there the swing sets the whole thing would make a lot of people happy i reached out to bob bodie from the conservation commission as the chairman of the conservation who has jurisdiction over that area and he thought it was a good ideas and thought he's going to bring it back to his board reached out to the wreck recreation board who uses somewhat jurisdiction because it's a park  they thought it was a good idea they're going to discuss it further but i thought it would be a good step for the selectmen to bring this forward and say you know rather than ignoring it and just let it decay take a stand and say you know once and for all this came up john the other day that you know we never really formally said sorry other than at this table if we get the community together bill dudley said he would give a little service at the beginning just tear it down in a couple hours get it out of there and then you know have the victims participate if they wanted to so that action item for the acceptance of the two hundred years later if we can make that a condition on something like that i think will make a world of difference to aaron who came out to foxboro and it was a very well attended b to florida saying we don't really care a little bit in his mind but i think that was the opposite of what this community has said over the last year so it's kind of a redo of something that we can do a little bit better when with his donation so you know we have office hours on thursday may twenty six william donald who's a registrar will be there to answer any questions about deeds and i find that's very helpful and in a few participated did you speak to them about  hazardous waste day so anything that you have is a less than i think if we don't have it on the website can we put it on the website i'm pretty sure it's there but everything that's accepted and not accepted is there it's a free service and clean your house of other crap that's in your basement and garage i a presentation to the dispatch and then do some more questioning answer our last meeting open up to the board for discussion would start will those be the only three people that will be on us their comments or concerns really to know what those are so ok and then kind of related to this i got an e mail i don't know if on the board members from the same email from a gentleman that had a laundry list of questions i sent i sent that to bill and you know unfortunately he didn't call the bill so those not copied right and i'll bring them back for consideration for them and i was in a position and i just don't know are they the answers i yeah really answered it's unfortunate but that's exactly the question i'd ask yeah you know for  respect to how much information we can pull together every feel confident about it because i said to them four thousand and they are the other three times rather that we've all run that we're pretty much the same page that we'd rather have a slow yes than a fast  and you know we make sure we have all the pieces put together i think we have to make sure this makes sense for everybody and we could conceivably save money but it also could cost money some of some onion somebody in the steps we want to make sure all those pieces of they're least the initial commitment is that they will help fund a significant amount of them for the for the construction costs for the for the new facility you know they put any time constraints on that not to my knowledge you know that they are the their ways away though remember that they're still a good two or three years away before the building is his foot because they were actually able to face construction process for that because one of his the first part is to rebuild i think the new d p w facility f depot and that's when they'll build the the new at least five or so behind it so it will be a campus type approach and so there were there are a few years away before that's going to happen but it's a perfect time for us to be in the planning stage if we're going to do this there is going to be a lot of issues i foresee going forward so the sooner we can get it going the better i think general consensus is that i can i have a motion and make a motion that we appoint police chief fire chief in town manager to the study committee three year the regional dispatch call second motion made seconded for the discussion seeing that all those in favor of those are proving you wrong she cares five being seven twenty five next item on your generous seven twenty five you vote on new candidate to the conservation commission so the chairman of the conservation commission in the applicant is  welcome gentlemen thank you good evening i'm robert but he chairman of your conservation commission tonight i am here to introduce geoffrey games as recommended candidate to fill the position of the retired d the commission members interviewed four of the five candidates who applied for the one open position on the commission as many candidates vying for the one opening on the conservation commission as you have candidates for the selectmen arts school committee which made our task very difficult challenging one candidate was unable to make it to the meeting as he was still we feel that jeffrey is the most qualified candidate at this time it would be an excellent addition to our very talented and dedicated group of volunteers to serve our town and by the way i want to thank the board for reappointed me for another term i still have a few goals that i would want to accomplish including a memorial david risch whom you know it was our first agent for the town he was responsible for many acreage acres of conservation lands that we all enjoy today the sale of spring street is also high on the and the work that i did we were doing diesel emissions vehicle testing and it's all geared towards reducing worker exposure in underground mines and in above run mines so that's it was a it was basically doing this does my first job and following o keeping the development at bay but at the same time you're enhancing the open space walking trails in enhancing it so it's kind of a dual role that you haven't and it's a pretty balanced board right now so it's i think you fit in very well itself and i wanted to thank the other candidates that applied in did not make it to the step don't get discouraged but we appreciate the effort to come forward so ok so we have the application in front of us and it's complete review in the packets you've received a self evaluation you've received a blanket valuation for us to review you receive a contract which has a salary and other requirements on it at the same time we also reached out to the public at the last meeting to see if there's anyone that comments to send him to a lot of board members i saw today was good one yeah yeah i actually wanted to read that many because that was the kind of cuts it touches on a couple topics so  it's always an uncomfortable thing i remember last time one of the last time they did it i got a very nasty email from somebody saying how dare you do this to somebody in public would you like your review that i brought like it's unfortunately you know it's uncomfortable probably for you the board good things and bad things in get their voice heard so so the big big term items the contract you have a three year contract just wrapping up the two year so this is to evaluate the year that we just passed and we always do it before the end of the i guess before the election so you have five current selectman who work with you for entire year first thing it is a part of the contract is as you reach the end of the two years you are requested to notify us and your desires to extend the contract if we don't hear anything from you in nothing comes from this board it automatically gets extended so i thought it was good practice to go if you go so inclined to keep me you should say that after the reviews and you know you want you to stay true ok so i do want to read two things one is again we reached out did anyone else get any correspondence administrative team headed by bill keegan since his arrival the trust the community has in town government has increased since most almost the day of his arrival i've been in contact with mr keegan with questions and comments he's always been responsive in a timely fashion with frank answers a pre shared that the community can count on him for honest answers his leadership style is inclusive open and professional in his communication skills are strong fox was being served well by mr keegan it is my hope that this relationship continues for so the first thing we did for the evaluation is there was a set of performance standards and i won't go through yourself evaluation but he presented that to everybody we had the opportunity to read the evaluation and then provide our own so rather than reading five going over five individual reviews we put mary beth in an awkward position chris said can you summarize it bessie abilities for your boss and then kind of keep you out of the evaluation so to speak so if it's ok with the board i'm going to read it's two pages i'll read this evaluation so that people at home know collectively where we're coming from around the chairman just to just to clarify so it's sort of everybody was correct so at the end of this exercise you can have the ability to say if your comments were appropriately addressed in here then we can make revisions if they are this will be part of your personnel file i have not seen any of the other you know no one's no one's talked to each other on this so i don't know what your review was but if there's something in here that is not reflective of what you wanted to say today tonight's the time to do itself this is called time manager evaluation summaries between april twenty first two thousand fifteen to april nineteenth two thousand and sixteen the following is a summary of bilking his performance evaluation for the past year in leadership and effectiveness bill was commended for his excellent leadership skills in setting high standards quote bill through his leadership style has clearly gain the confidence of town employees in taxpayers given the attribute attribute he is able to more aptly navigate the waters of town government in achieve the town's objectives and quote he was encouraged to continue working to improve morale and to mentor departments that need assistance bill exceeded expectations and planning and organization he is credited for his ability to build consensus and head off problems before they arise quote capital projects community issues and opportunities are approached by mr keegan with great organizational planning strategy in thought and quote bill received positive feedback for communication community for intice a painting issues great communication skills and presenting ideas effectively although one member felt that the communication could be improved by providing additional updates throughout the week he was also commended quote comment commended quote bill has established himself as a mature trustworthy incredible leader in our town he has resort confidence in the town manager position and quote keegan's problem solving innovation decision making abilities which is one of the criteria the board felt he exceeded expectations for making good decisions he was encouraged to seek the perspective of all board members when possible one board member summarized the fallout as follows quote thankfully bill has a wonderful gift for deflating tensions among competing interests and has been instrumental in bringing this disparate this very disparate factions to the table for productive discussions and quote bill's been credit for a strong budget financial management you know improving the town's bond rating work working effectively with that common being resourceful quote bill continues the tradition of sound financial discipline has built a very good leadership team which reflects a disposition and expectations of the community and quote with high marks for customer service service quality he received credit for ramped up social media presence in putting the town in taxpayers interests first quote bill is very approachable and completely understands customer service in the need to be transparent and quote i hear you typing away and i'm going to say this is there if you need it and i give you the word document yeah  actually really yeah with regard to personnel personal professional organizational integrity quote there's a very high comfort level with mr keegan at the helm and quote he is commended by all those professionals for all his professionalism and respectful treatment of staff and residents in the category of cross department organizational management his commended for being team oriented seeking input from departments involving all stakeholders in an issue we have asked the board members to list the complements and their eleven accomplishments the town hall project and the steps taken to make the present town hall comfortable and state and safe from ploys and create a present a bill to the public to negotiating union contracts that are consistent with fair in fair to both the town in the ploys three town warrant process that help the board of selectmen to keep track of one articles and he had comp to feel comfortable and scheduling as well as deliverable delivering a balanced budget to the town number four of economic development committee and strategic planning committee five improve presence of social media to keep town informed six treats the volunteer boards and commissions in time with respect and response of this seven addressed unexpected situations effectively from business and community areas eight the forbes crossing project from proposal to passage of time meeting for the liquor licenses nine upgrade of policies procedures contracts in to restore confidence in time managers form of government ten gain the trust and confidence of citizens in employees and finally eleven capture kept infrastructure improvements on the front burner and made them a long term priority stated by the selectmen for the objectives of the coming year one continue to build morale throughout the town departments maybe look at leadership team building seminars and or training to continue to update the board of selectmen on current issues three continue open discussions with the craft group for meet with boards and committees on a regular basis to discuss goals and objectives and pending townhall construction and planning for the move seven look for ways to remove cost from operations and look for ways to me town government less it's less expensive to the taxpayer eight continue to mentor department heads employees to achieve higher levels of professional service delivery one complete the roll out of community aggregation for top town hall meeting number ten complete the r f p which is request for proposal for the fire station a funeral home eleven start of start to formulate a timeline for the sewer opportunities within his role as a town manager but has gone above and beyond to dress the unexpected issues that arose and quote in the second one was quote continued to be user friendly and approachable by staff in the public continue to be a as transparent as possible and part of this will discuss this and this is going towards this is a performance review and then the last part is the salary view which is very reflective of this so is there anything discussion on this or any items that you felt piece is a big salary of you know on the form the form and i think we should change a little bit next time it said recommended may recommended salary i think that's that same form that you use for staff and under contract so some some of you put a number and some of you didn't and the number that you put in wasn't reflective if it was a total increase or cost of living or step  that i'd like to take everything off the table that he submitted and have that discussion here but before that mary beth could you give us a summary of what where the contracts are what numbers for cost of living in and more out to the general population that work in the town  management part force that's still covered by the bylaws so based upon satisfactory performance evaluation those folks would receive the cost of living by general increase of two percent and then based on satisfactory performance the equivalent of a two and a half percent step so so for this past year that was what was reflected in the line union folks and as you know we've bargained into the current most every contract  performance evaluation document with a step increase based on satisfactory performance in addition to the two percent ok so for a half percent total is what the the contract and contract workers  so i'll bring that up to the board we want a discussion in the past on the private sector we've actually asked the opinion of the person being reviewed what they think they're worth and we can do that we can have a month and tell  what we think is worth so it's just a small point to make jim when you're discussing the senior management i think it's it's all performance these no there's no cost of living adjustments it's either zero or something above that it's good to know where the town is coming in i think that's a good reference point but you know i approach you know bill's review as if he was average i would have a number of he was exemplary and i believe he is and i know that number unfortunately though in the in the private sector you know raises have been the don't see raises in the six and seven percent range anymore so you know we're trying to come up with a number that is appropriate and story ward's bill for his good work encourages of the continued to do good work  i'm not sure for a half percent is the number but what's so let's have a healthy discussion about it ok fair enough when you mentioned the step at one point they have what point does does so there's typically no steps whatsoever and in a position of his he doesn't really have an endpoint but we think he came fully trained right so no steps and no cost of living it's a salary that we forth and that's how we finally settled that the original number evaluated based on what other time police have because of his responsibilities so i would i would i would say recommend a five percent increase anyone else who actually in the in the the world they come from two two and a half three percent is a very good this year especially for profit companies it's you know bill still salary is fairly high at this point while i'd say it's appropriate but if you start adding these percentages it it gets high quickly so actually my recommendation in this is you know i think it's a good reward as my recommendation so the other factor i been thinking about also his you know good leadership and bill clearly you know from this board that the comments were you show good leadership and i think if you look at time energies that come in and if they lead by example and lead by you know working with people or leave them well above and look down i think part of bill's success is that he can relate to the staff in in work well within  not from way way above if the if the average person is getting four and a half and we're giving five yes it's because he's a manager but i think that takes a little bit of the effectiveness away and  remember correctly from last year there was a number and we changed it we redouble we were below what the average got we brought you up to what everyone else was getting because that time we were almost p because for whatever reason we wanted to bring him lower so i'm hearing a five here in a three four and a half is what's getting it what what the staff is getting i'm comfortable with the four because i think it sends a decent message that he's right in there with everybody else and in this time you know i think four is above the cost of living in and i think for is what i'm comfortable with and before we close it maybe this is you can stay silent but i want to get your opinion because when you review when someone if they go away angry if they're happy or whatever but i want to get your input before we make a final decision on this i first of all i'm  mary beth the analysis on what foxboro can afford with raises and people salaries where does this fall with what randy has on his financial plan might look down on the planet in its entirety and when to fall for ways zero right action item number two heavily knows i make a motion that we approve to early openings starting at eleven am for sunday mother's day me eighth two thousand and sixteen and sunday father's day june nineteenth two mother's day and in the we looked at the state law in our local bylaw and went back and forth and so made the comment what about father's day today today we deal with fathers day and mother's day the father's day for the discussion we have like to publicly thank rich and his whole team that put that on this is got to be ten eleven twelve thirteen years in the phrase the ton of money so thank you very much the whole mood and family and everybody that helps is there anyone that showed up that wants to do more citizens input but in any jokes i get some jokes  do think it is the end of i think that the survivors wanting to tear down the building is i can definitely empathize with that and believe me the day when we put this all to rest and it gets knocked down and i no longer have to write about the bill she case is something i will very much enjoy it is something that i take a great responsibility covering but i really hate doing it in many ways that being said and i'll talk to the survivors about as well i would caution knocking down that thing until things are until really the case is closed i mean it is open now for a reason just today we have gotten some more information that we're that we're following up on and right now the way i look at it is it's a crit it's a crime scene and i mean it's you know it's speaking you know when we talk about the holocaust you know makes being as a jewish person you know i'm someone who is definitely in favor of like leaving the camps open but i have other people other jewish friends who like want to knock them down and you know what happens that building should totally be up to the survivors but i would definitely cautious knocking it down until you've had the nuremberg trials not say we have a trial or anything but if you know this is still relatively fresh in many ways and so that would be my input and i will present that to the survivors as well but and you know i'm a journalist i don't normally put myself into this but again this is something we're looking into and i have no sentimental desire to see that terrible building still there but this is still very active and someone is looking into  investigating it that's my two cents thank you thank you it's very interesting point you know when you get a local reporter telling a board something that they probably should know it's a good it's a good point and you know maybe maybe a little hazy but putting in that perspective probably is has some merit to that you know he for us to go down a road in six months and then say look back and say w so having heard that nabbing thought a little bit more about it let's let's take that discussion off the table right now because of the board but i still do want to accept the gift and read that letter that was given to us and i think that better than it is it's i'm worried about the liability aspect from the town of foxborough so i would just caution us to look into how we can fix the fence and get that as secure as possible because i would hate for somebody letter says defriended it's dated march twenty fourth please accept the enclosed donation and on of our son aaron a everhart was a past victim of william sheehan raising awareness to the awful reality of child sex abuse is a very good thing we have seen first hand that for the abused person the emotional consequences last many years in fact never really go away thank you for raising awareness in this area hopefully the children of now and of the future will benefit most sincerely alan in sandra eva heart of north fort myers florida it was for our one donation the second donation was dear committee members dated march twenty fifth two thousand and sixteen his with a heavy heart and also tremendous respect and appreciation that we give this gift in honor of my cousin aaron ava hart we are so thankful for the important work that you are doing and we encourage you to press on thank you we know when we now work but this is when you you know we know work of this nature must be difficult and heavy and in very vital thank you thank you may god bless may god bring healing in peace with appreciate jennifer and taylor joseph wanted to do that into the record so the motion is made to accept two hundred dollars seconded for the discussion saying not all those in favor of the supposed motion carries five zero chapter one thirty eight will conduct a public hearing on tuesday april nineteenth two thousand and sixteen beginning it eight p m in the fox rise school media so not one twenty sell street on the application transfer a license for trader joe's east in doing business as trader joes number five twenty eight three fifty patriot place foxborough mass manager david ford all interested parties are welcome to attend the case and that no read into the record we had a formal a chapter one thirty six section four town of foxborough revised general bylaws article five section six and also stadium rules and regulations for could talk to conduct a public hearing on tuesday april fifth two thousand and sixteen beginning at eight p m in the her middle school auditorium that's when we originally opened it through the application submitted by m p s will see for the beyond say the formation of a world tour concerts these events are proposed for gillette stadium application better than her management group live nation and better than us so as the dates were selling and selling out really quickly they collectively her and her team decided to rather than just add additional dates onto existing engagements to add an entire second leg to her tour so she's going back out after the summer for a fall round of north american dates and pending the n f l schedule we were hoping that we would have a date sometime around that weekend around fatima thirtieth over first that would work within the state am timeline because we certainly felt like the demand was there but unfortunately as you probably saw the n f l schedule came out last week and we weren't able to come to an agreement on recommendation is amended to read june third only  that being said i'm asking for june friday june third from the event like i mentioned a while back on sale and in february after the super bowl and sold out incredibly quickly to get prices started at three hundred  dollar price point over eight thousand take it sold and and sold pretty much instantaneously which speaks to her popularity right now as a performer so we interesting we had both  z and twenty fourteen as part of their on the run torah which was a coed line or we had it was a surprisingly easy event for us from a management standpoint in that she's can speak to it from a public safety standpoint but very very few incidents very well behaved crowd it has something to do with the fact that these fans are spending a lot of my and he to come to this event and they're really not coming to buy beer or hot dogs they're coming to watch the performer and it's a theatrical event for a lot of these patrons so we find that the demographic skews extremely female especially for her now that there isn't that cheesy component is it's just beyond face so we do anticipate a high number of female patrons the biggest concern that we have right now that we foresee as being a potential issue that we need to manage is are clear about policy so a lot of these fans have may have come in twenty fourteen but may not have been to a page or game in the last two years or may not have been to a let's see them a vent this year since we've implemented this new policy so it will certainly be on us to have a very rigorous campaign of education for the fans out of purchase tickets doing direct mail pieces  summary opinion and just put our minds at ease you said there were some concerns voiced about police reaction to belittle or to political comments made by own by bianchi of the super bowl could you tell us what obviously that was important it was a reaction and noticed in some other media that certain police unions the front pack commentary she had made directly after the show i had a follow up  at the stadio and we talked with the promoter and he's had no resistance from any police group one of the agencies was the tampa police department that had made a comment this work up process so there's nothing that's been said at any of the places to indicate public safety would not be provided and i haven't heard anything from any of the massachusetts groups  that are so upset that they would require to do that required duty and make sure public safety comes first at any of these events ok thank you i just want to clarify th items yet there were three the license conditions that i just want to go over to make sure they're all set number five be the overtime fine provisions is  right wheel with respect to any of our parking lot operations we defer to chief o'leary so if you feels that parking lot need to be open sooner or later or that a ticket inspection needs to be revamped or any part of the process needs to be adjusted  i was always under the impression that we always checked ticket you couldn't get into the to a packing you've lied to you you had to show tickets and then i was informed that it's not doesn't happen all the time but i think it should happen all the time because there was a good reason for that stipulation to be put in those concerts that they were doing it and under the license conditions it does say that all attendees from a show tickets upon entering into each packing line and it's also reflected in the stadium advisory committee notes so that's something i would i think the blue it should should insist that be followed where so now i think it should be done for all events because that's when their climates for the license it was put in the air because we had a real bad problem with the camera student people people with the some heavily drinking left and die and that was one of the things that the town decided we would dislike and decided that we were going to put a stop to that you know it had to get into the parking police chief and i understand that that's what i'm hearing but it's in the application that doesn't mean it's not a call can't be held responsible if the police chief says not to do it ok chief would you mind coming up and try to address this today you understand the question yes that this particular issue was put on the license particularly to the country western show of this so called ches shows because we're having people coming into the facility without tickets and just enjoying the big party starting with an event that we had first in two thousand and seven and as a result for that specific license group we require people to have tickets we found in two thousand and eight people were copying tickets on machines having printouts that they'd be able to show to either a satellite watch or a stadium lot that would indicate they had tickets to the stadium up their game to make sure that they got a specific hard copy cardboard ticket that had to be demonstrated for those shows if indeed it's in all the licenses now that i'll talk with the satellite lot owners as well as the stadium personnel to make sure that we're doing due diligence and try to screen people out that are going just specifically for the party so understanding that  written that they have to require it in your judgment you have the ability to make them do that obviously correct if that's what you want to do and you have you understand that you don't have a choice of the public safety says you need to do it one to get traffic moving because we're not just limiting traffic to route one ninety five and four ninety five it has an impact on our local roads in our neighboring communities such as walpol that if we come to gridlock for any reason we might have to expedite and make changes that are necessarily letter of the law and a license application ok and that's been the up for the event and have no intention of going there ok and also when you purchase a ticket with packing there's an expectation that you will have a parking space and nothing in reserve parking space but there's an expectation you going to be able to get into a you know a parking lot you know if you allow just everybody in the end you could have you could have one hundred cars going in there with no tickets that's taken up one hundred spaces that real ticket holders could be using potentially it appears right now i believe for advance non football most of the events and i believe there are a fifty three thousand so tickets for the beyond say show so there would actually be over capacity for events like this based on the average numbers that come for car  it has an impact because we have the parking lot not just of the stadium but all the satellite lines we run a much greater risk and we have playoff games by depending on the time of day again it's something that car ski from stadium traffic and parking and i have talked about how we view the last for the last two years for the concert season and it seems to have relieve some of the pressure that neighborhoods such as north street and the surrounding streets i don't have when we give cabs and transport vehicles access into the stadium property thank you us we have a full application i think it's been vetted through bill's office feeling outstanding issues on this of bar staff members card staff kitchen oh i've been there in this position a little over fourteen months and part of that i worked there as an assistant professional call professional c but our local alcohol bylaws that has a strike one strike two strikes the policy and i think we've seen people come in from that haven't been involved with that and it just doesn't sit well when there's mistakes made so when your courage is strongly to do that here but he's also the general manager at this location we pulled him from burger night which at this point sounds pretty good to me but well but i pretty simple application for you to change of  office or director to new l l c even handed yours in with the company for a long time they control the day to day operations of the fifty four louie's across the country make all the decisions so  this one is about to expire they've ordered one week ago it takes a little bit longer for these bigger companies to get them than the one to three promise i just had a question in exhibits to see it said suspension right revocations the cancellation of the african restaurants and they talk about sun capital partners in the last things to send capital to their deaths their ability to do that they didn't have any suspensions of a massachusetts like you think they were talking about other than what was in the retail application because they they are not and they do you control their investors so that it's a big investment equity fund so they have lots of it so they could say they don't have a list of every license that they have that they you know development committee to reduce debt from three licenses down to two houses and to remove the the all alcohol package license to be requested so let's let's that seventeen let's keep fifteen sixteen seventeen on the side a little bit as we got to the thirty one is there any question can you give a summary everything's been a front of the advisory committee ending their vote on some of them but at least once they've been vetted yes in an evolving supported o right and in there maybe some i see some liquor establishment people out there so we'll listen to the presentation and then we will provide input from the public as well welcome larry  discussions at the economic development committee with that group and received new in for me ation regard from existing package store license holders and discussion at the economic development committee was such that based on this new information we thought it would make sense to remove that one section from that one article requesting the package  store because of certain economic impacts that have been described to us and there was a general discussion about you know looking forward to get some more information to see if you know what these impacts really actually are from both sides so we thought at this point to not jeopardize the requests for the two restaurant liquor licenses we wanted to pull the package store license off and just go forward with with that we met a few times on this topic our most recent one last week with the economic development committee and again you know everyone agreed that this is the action that we wanted to recommend so from there we went to advisory committee and have conveyed that to them and so there they have it under consideration the article came to us to make so what we're asking right now is to take it from three to restaurants and one fall down to two restaurants only so great have to amend the article at this table which right we would move received new information that it was a lot of those questions we we have you have to choose had a chance to meet with the economic development committee and you know to present that new information to the entire committee i think is that it is the development committee but the whole group hasn't met to discuss this is that what you're saying no no prior to this new information the the economic development committee was in support of the throat pulling the the all alcohol package lysol ok all right ok we got some new information that answer some of those questions to the economic development committee because the old meanwhile we can't just send out of blast e mail saying we got this this information we have to wait til it's already been taken out of well it is actually two versions we have two for you may have got the one that was what is the original new information that you're talking about the new information that we have received had to do with the economic impact on the existing feedback that we got from the license holders they came to one of our meetings and presented information that we had not considered as we were putting together the original articles so once we heard that we had consensus that we should pull all that request and one a question came up from one of the members on another topic which just seemed to support the idea well you know we still need more information so let's pull this one so that we have time to address that we have the answer now to that new information and so we would discuss that at our next meeting which will be next wednesday but i think it's really a timing thing and still i can't predict actually you know which way they'll go but we want to speak for the other the question is if if we leave it as is is their ability to amend it on the floor in light of day economic development committee meeting and trying to vet that information prior to tell meeting in and actually pulling it out on on the floor tell me to or do you just take it out now and defer it so you know i don't i don't know what the some some detail of your discussions with the current license holders and what their concerns are yes the concerns really are two that there are currently four fall out for  package store license holders and they feel that the upgrade of unease east of an existing license will impact their business directly  starting off with the center of town that fits that license holder has just purchased their business they purchased their business on the basis of what is you know the marketplace that they've established to hit their targets that they had in vision basically i think the other thing is that you know the pie is only so big and so not only does it impact them but ultimately impacts all of the package store holders in town so that upgrade it would go to the package store that doesn't have full ability to sell that's a brand ok so again that further dilutes the market share that these owners have so it's really like a double hit to them in terms of most of economics so by changing it from three to two you keep kind of keep all the existing full service at status quo here intact yeah and you know i think of another factor that economic development considered was that when you look at all of the licenses that have been applied for and all the surrounding towns in the same way that we're doing this right now for the restaurant licenses not one of them applied for and an additional package store license ok so it's really in terms of economic development it's really the restaurants that are one of those tools basically towards economic development so again given that information the committee thought that we should put the draw this this process i think we quickly took a look at what impact it would have on existing license holders and we i think we promised ourselves would do having possible not to harm the businesses so i think at this juncture it's a good idea to take this  for the discussion you know what from the audience yes or you're welcome to come up yeah if you want to you're welcome to stand at the microphone or sit at the table just as if you could introduce yourself for the record i have an address a thank you this opportunity i think the rain is pretty well given the information via the recommender economic development committee when this issue first surfaced and it was well  but anyway they had asked me if i would speak in their behalf joy you also had the other store owners here and as we viewed that survey there was some concerns over the fact only addressing the package to a fo alcohol license that's the only thing that we have addressed to this point it's all were dressing ok and what we looked at was that we thought we were talking about economic development and positive economic development what we saw in this was possibly a pretty pretty much a negative economic development with another license as the license as  the is the the border controls licenses you're all aware of naturally that fox will like any other town works under the one in five thousand population and by going above that would certainly have an economic impact on all of us it would certainly devalue licenses is now would be going to be an additional license up in about that five thousand plus whatever economic business of facts and i think one of the issues that was brought up right out of the starting gate and his ability to do business he made that investment in the center of town and wants to be part of the growth of the regrowth of the center of town but now he's a very very concerned over the fact that would be a new for a liquor license going into hobson rapes eight tenths of a mile from his business which obviously would be a severe impact to him and again if this license that was coming forward was within the five thousand population purview you would see is here because when express my liquors which is here had a beer and wine operation when foxboro role that fifteen thousand population a new license became available she was next up early she applied for gotten everybody was happy and satisfied but what we're looking at here is we're going up above that population status which is going to hurt operating in the center of town on the second issue and i say this because i have a very difficult time saying anything against nominee found nobody farms is probably the best campground campground in the country for hours work and such but on the route one corridor we have four licenses within walking distance of each other and so the one thing that we do enjoy out there  benefits of nominee farms they draw from all over the country and as we all know campgrounds have a great positive impact on the economy because all of those campers shop the community they shop the grocery stores they shop the stores they buy the alcohol they go to the movies etc etc and so from that standpoint we look at it is another economic hit because we'd lose a good portion of that business so again we're looking at it in talking historically economics not talking politics or not talking being up against anybody but we address this economically and now with that letter and survey came about we realized that that one license going above the five thousand population squeezing the pie and really making an ineffective impact on all the stores in foxborough and so we thought we would come forward with this because economically i think it's more negative than grapes is there another option for them to get that type of license other than the scenario of the pod the only other option that we discussed where there was a possibility that they could move might be that we do have a sober one serving license presently but we could we don't have a  us and that license could be made available actually immediately if they if they so chose to serve in that direction sounded like they wanted to stock a couple of different six packs and a couple of different varieties of why  we understand what they what they want to try and do is is to provide a showcase or a case of the display case inside their existing gift shop so it's not not they're looking at a very package store hops in grapes of hops and grapes is is completely on the other side of town and talking to the owner of that shop last night he didn't indicate that most of the business that he gets goes to mansfield doesn't people come in and ask plan was there with the nodes put in and were alcohol restaurant and packets to a license discussed in the planning of the master plan i don't think restaurants specifically were part of that part of this question i think it's an economic development as a whole and in clearly restaurants are are a function of economic development you know it's all these licenses got shaped release response to chris's group chris chris question i think this that whole discussion came about about a year a year and a half ago when this discussion with the whole issue of licenses came up i think it was he will raise the question what's the process by which we determine how many more licenses we need and so that's when the whole discussion began and sharon was at the time they got in got involved in the discussion and looked at the master plan to say why don't we break it down i mean the way i look at it is we spend a lot of time with the master plan planning for you know economic development economic growth a lot of detail into that the economic development committee put a ton of effort into everything and i just think that we need to go forward with what the recommendation was originally i mean this whole article has been changed three times the last three meetings  i don't know where we are only suggesting one now what i mean when it was all first proposed it was all for a vote and all of them at once a minute got split so to me i said as a board member each time we've got liz draft thing the last three meetings it's been different we the economic development submitted committee submitted three separate articles from the very start so i'm not sure how you received one combined one that was on but i'm just explaining to you that  economic development committee submitted three separate articles from the beginning i think initially that was one of those were to do one on a call and it was it was broken the leader by the committee i think that just so you know what i'm what i'm saying that was you guys have done your homework i mean i don't i personally think the majority of the package store licenses are are down towards route one area and like bill said the majority of people down in south fox are either going to go to plainville or they're going to go to mansfield to stop and shop war wherever so to spread the the license is out i don't think is a bad thing fairness to what the committee is asking you though i think the committee would like to take the opportunity through collect more information so that they have sound arguments for defending the position of whether those are places should be included in this in the last couple days we've had a lot of the question the answer to the question that still needs to be answered is you know you know what type of business  know really does this hobson grapes anticipate running what what size what scope and and how much volume do they plan on doing with their customer base you know where their customers are coming from what's what's the you know are they are they employees in foxborough and they're they're stopping by on their way home at a town so there's just there's some there's still some questions that we can answer i mean one of the economic development committee spent a lot of time on the restaurant licenses  you know history financial impact competition and and i think they can they can make a strong case for those i think we can make a strong case  for the package to a license but if given what time we can make we can make a strong case i would think with with financial impact studies and and and customer base and in volume in quantities of  what's going to be sold out there so do you anticipate that your next meeting you'll have all that information that you're looking for i do want to know so you know we in our discussions that you know we talked about it taking time to pull that information together and you know give both sides of the argument equal opportunity to pull that information together so that we can you know have more time to evaluate that i think again we don't want to lose those two restaurant requests but in the interim thought that so they are you know this and it's two so the economic development and development committee is is comfortable with the war now tical just asking for the two licenses yes and then months from now maybe the next town meeting you take up if it's warranted you'll take up another one and agree to address those other conclude that the information that would be gathered  we have a meeting in the two entities that it doesn't affect that affects i just not here it seems kind of just betrayed us we did reach out to them last night and let them know that this was a possibility  no the point was brought up that positioning of licenses which is the licensing authority the fox sport of selectmen have positioned these licenses accordingly to what they thought was in the best interest for the town of foxborough as matter of fact previously years ago there was some ongoing battles as far as positioning some of these liquor stores to close but what we're saying is now we do have four local licenses out there on top of each other but that was the decision of the of the board of selectmen in the town of foxborough some i'm hard pressed to think that would be punished some more while four of us are battling each other for a piece of the pie that you would add on an additional license because it's perceived is that maybe it was a mistake a few years ago and irregardless i think that now to punish us some more by saying we're going to put another license on the other side of town is that looks like a little better balance and the guy in the center of town has made the investment gets hurt and the rest of the stores get hurt because of the positioning a license by the town of foxborough such as the point i just want to bring up that i thought was important thank  speaking in my role as a constable this evening i had a discussion with the town clerk about the fact that we were hopeful that tonight the war would be closed because i have a an obligation to get everything posted by friday with the election coming up on i believe the second in town meeting on the night so he was very clear to me although i'm going to hopefully pick up the paper work wednesday everything has to be posted by friday because i know there was just a question on the action that could be taken oh yeah i think the action is going to be that is going to be taken is one way or the other we're going to close it tonight in moving forward to the clerk i just want to hear you know that my conversation with him this evening before i came yeah he indicated that unfortunately some decision has to be made so it's funny we're airing a caution to go down a license which makes sense on some levels very well said tonight but it still bothers me that the two entities that why i haven't heard anything from hobson engraves but i know well let's talk about that discussion well i think from a from a timing issue it doesn't hurt either one of them because even if it was approved tell meeting they're a year away from getting a license to do to do the investigation and to put the plan together in one thing and i think we should defer to the e d c on on this because they they feel when they don't have enough information  correct ok that's what it's going to have premises meaning right there where you drink it like a restaurant not premises you can bring it back to a trailer but anyone else in the public seeing none any further discussion from the board i'll entertain a motion i'm sorry let me be clear a motion regarding just article seventeen and then once that's done we will make a motion for all of the articles so the motion to amend article seventeen  all alcohol or in licenses and i'll second that dave motion made to amend it down from three to second in for the discussion seeing none of those in favor of those opposed motion carries again yes thank you i meant to tell you that we actually receive we fall receive the bid on friday of this past week but before that and for that that's been ongoing so i think that's a that's a an issue that has actually spent three t separate just be mindful that they retain a right to add additional equipment or remove it or move quickly not change change to the arrays as as technology forty b development in there as well so is this playground tied to that or is that a done deal and seems like from seventy five thousand dollars to renovate a playground that nobody ever seen  approve all thirty one articles for the town meeting i'll second that yes can i just give marcel a mind out of the boatload of credit for tracking changes and updating versions for us she did a wonderful job at that yeah that and that because it should not go without saying it needs to be said also attached from the bottom is a copy of the town clerk certification that the position was in fact removed from civil service that on the incumbent however people larry remain civil service pretty good proposing this we sent it to you back a week or two ago for you to review and look at you know with the understanding that we want you to really you know take time to weigh in and let us know how you feel about the timing we start off with a target date of may one perhaps to advertise the position we would go online you know some popular police sites the association of chiefs of police police one is a site i've also used it's a free police recruiting site linked in which is now the most popular recruiting site both public and private sector the m m a houses police chief job descriptions as well and then the brochure that you have in front of you that  might go out to areas police departments and town halls to be posted again on may one we would concurrently be issuing an r f p if you approve this process for the final phase of the recruitment process that would be an assessment center for the finalists so the candidates would go through the process as i'm going to outline it and then the final phase would be to have a consultant and objective consultant running the assessments and a process for the finalists  june one we would be if we post start the posting on a one june one we would be looking for the applications to come in that gives thirty days we'll be using our applicant tracking system that we've purchased through us we've now been able to work out all the kinks with about we've processed over three hundred applications throughout the various number of jobs that we've had posted so we're learning to use it and it's working out quite well we can communicate with the candidates and collect everything online we figure that we would be doing resume screening somewhere around the sixth their tenth the june made up of a committee that we're proposing would be the town manager the assistant manager and the chairman of the board of selectmen this process is modeled after one that i used in westwood and it worked well i suggest perhaps the idea of doing phone interviews which are just a fifteen minute investment and you know you can talk to a broader number of candidates again it might be that screening committee of town manager assistant town manager and board of selectmen chair that group would narrow this phone interview group down to  panel interviews where we would invite you know depending on how many applications we got we would have an evening or two evenings of panel interviews modeling this after my experiences and bill who has also hired some police chiefs we would like to have a tech a group of technical and experts perhaps in one room those could be public safety specific you know subject matter expert police chief fire chief things like that in one room doing an interview and the candidates would go through to two groups during that night the second group would be made up of community members perhaps school superintendent and representative from the board of selectmen maybe someone from human services however the board would  like in my experience we had candidates come in and they did thirty minutes with each group at the end of the evening the two panels got together and did a consensus voting of candidates on share their experiences and that's where you get your final candidate pool at that point we would be hopefully around august first and would run a two day assessment center for the finalists and that would be conducted by the consultant that we were a sharing the r f p in may and then the candidates names would go public in mid august and they would interview in public session in front of the board of selectmen that would be you know based on your your wishes we would bring you anywhere from one to three candidates perhaps depending on how the assessment center turned out and then we would hope that if it were an incumbent chief maybe under a contract they would need to give at least thirty days some some have to give forty five so we would be looking at september fifteenth or so  forth to on board a new police chief so that is our proposed timeline we're happy to take suggestions we've asked on this board for feedback we brought this up at our department had meeting  department heads to weigh in we've had some comments and i also reached out to the two senior the two lieutenants the senior administrative team and police department because they are impacted by how the process might run and down so i asked them for in part and i got very thoughtful comments from them as well and as i said on a different a bill who's also hired several police chiefs in his career and you know we work through this process and represent the actual issues of the chief so we would select as the town a number of exercises that can be as consultants have several like twenty different exercises you might have something that is a public meeting so there they would be a panel of experts that would review the candidates and there would probably be somewhere between five to seven exercises that they would all be going through  one might be a public hearing where the kids the panel of experts might put them in a high pressure situation and the members of the press could be like a town meeting or a you know public and media police like laws like when would you do pursue the moment you use your weapon and when we do you know like they would do things that are actual subject matter and law specific there's usually like an in basket exercise how would you manage your day as a manager  generally there's some sort of a writing assignment employee counseling type thing so what you would do is sit down as a group and decide what in developing a character profile you would put pick exercises that go with those strengths that you would want something that would show a leadership skill something that would show strategic thinking something that would show how to manage a giant entertainment sports venue public safety event you might want something you know to see if they had  terrorism or incident command type experience so you generally can select the type of exercise although we're not privy to what the actual exercise would be and fortunately a town representative can usually set in so when the would be so you get all of the professional information and if people have any sort of a bias relation whatever they recuse themselves they don't use that consultant for that particular community so you know panel of three to four or five consultant with them that spend the entire two days with the candidates and at the end of that they give you a score and make a recommendation based on the score of you know who should proceed to the have downtime they're generally working on me in basket exercise or writing a sign so you need some place with two rooms that are you can run things and they're not allowed to have any communication they're basically on lockdown for two days ni into pretty intense process but i will tell you at the other they usually end up with a really good indication we're his kids are so on the panel be that this is more of a town represented representation you've got time manager assistant time manager school superintendent a representative from the board of selectmen and then humans would be the human service making someone who you know maybe michael vick you or someone who deals with you know the human services side of things with public safety so that would kind of be like the department head administrative group and then you'd have the subject matter expert public safety panel as well talking about more of you know tactical  you consider whether so closely intertwined is he or she is going to be intertwined with the public safety someone from the fire department side that's how we would probably have on that panel a when i  could we could make some yeah you could do that or it's just mostly someone who's tactical about public safety and they would determine their  so basically it's a five month process starting beginning of may including the end of september with a little bit of overlap at the tail end with you know it's his whole area based on you know i did date ranges based on summer vacations and things so i'm giving it a two week range on some things but it actually probably a two night event that now that we're trying to work with people schedules ok but part of this also if i was going to apply the air of pique where is a where is the contract come into play where be the town manager and what it's like when we decide is this going to be a contract position or not on some of the key decisions we're going to need your input on our how we list the salary currently  police departments you generally have a base salary for a chief a percentage of quenelle based on their education and then in this town we have a detail component of pay a heavy duty to yeah so one one concept might be once we've identified the candidate we would then go into negotiations would probably help a leo polka in our live concerts and then begin to negotiate until we can finally get an agreement and then go forward right but i think we would have a defined  structured but but i think indeed the key elements of the salaried so we know what to put down for salary range is a it really is it depends upon if you want to do if you want to roll everything into it it's it's one way if you keep it as a separate the detail the separate item it's another range so we just need to know what that's a good question because the detail is a variable component also sation in this in this board members if we go too long so one of the things that i've been told by candidates in my experience is that unless we do a defined salary you may not get an experienced chief to so would like to be as specific as possible and you have two ranges one is for the base salary and the other is for the here and his that is the way the way i just always think as if you're saying this right now that i think way the way you do is keep it the way it is currently in the sense and then but then also in particular number of for the quarter for the for the position well you know you're trying to do is to determine a range for the positions we can advertise but i think if you put if you put you know sort of the last three years average or you might  escalated a bit and just say in two components one is this is the base if you qualify for the win bill that's pretty easy to calculate and secondarily there is a detail component has a historical detail component and it will be in this range based on no take the last three average is correct right so let's shy away from point a specific number tonight just i don't think this board is prepared to give you a number but why don't we leave it at if you want to put that stuff together and between now and may first and if you're comfortable i don't know is it a chairman time in a just saying that's ok or do you need to come back to the board somehow  done in in westwood nonpolitical keep the selectmen out of it from asking questions because it's going to be a very important process and i'd rather not front we kept it extremely private because we promised the candidates confidentiality so only the member of the board of selectmen that was on the panel was allowed to see the references that never got out outside of that you know and we you know told the candidates when it would become public cannot was when it came to public session in fact we even posted the agenda at that point the assessments and it was still going on and then in between the assessment center in the first selectman is meeting we posted you know final interviews with candidates and then as it got the night before we were able to release the names and each one of the s ended up right after the assessment center meeting with the three top candidates one on one just to have coffee or just get to know them so that they could also have a little background before the actual evening where they met them as a group  within the two years that you've been here and in the short time that you've been here i'm comfortable that you know the community and if you don't you have ways to reach out and find the answers that you don't know and i'm and i'm liking the fact that you're grabbing the different people and putting them  try and find a way that which we could actually cut through a lot of the the concern and debate and just good stuff dealing with some of the facts and the best we can do it is just gathered be fact gathering over the next next period of time which i'm not sure how long that's going to strong reservations about establishing such a park well the concept of a dog park is in of itself an idea that has gained some level popularity in many communities around the country the biggest challenge of funny looking is the biggest challenge is finding location that residen can rally around as a viable solution is also due to dog parks have for evolved over time with the multi level into a multi level approach many of the new dog parks have various or both small and large dogs that allow them to run free and fenced in area other concepts limit dogs to be walked in the park for must be restrained and kept entirely on leashes by their own walks for i was fortunate to have maintained large tracts of land and open spaces that often serve as buffers to surround her surrounding developments has also for to have numerous active recreation areas to have serve the needs of our residents of which add to the quality of life overall quality of life in the community the dog park is the newest form of park that has evolved from the increased popularity of dog ownership in the past ten to fifteen years it's no secret that penalties feel very strongly about their pets and want them to save where the pets can socialize with other pets the challenges that not every resident comfortable with the concept of having a dog park located in the other concerns that often i can get expressed that the dogs w disruptive that the aerial be adversely affected by parking in traffic generated by the park the only proper way to consider the velleman of the park is to form an active working group who will meet and address many of the questions or concerns that need to answers before support for one member from the conservation commission one member from the planning board went up from the recreation commission the animal control officer the building commissioner tom planner you could have a director or trying to engineer some of these people would be in my opinion would be so thank you for putting that together it's believe it or not it's interesting because it is often is is issues become very controversial will address ms actually very s of the last controversial issue of what was a town hall project which was addressing a very similar way we put a bunch of people on both sides of the issue in the room to figure out what all the questions were answered all the questions as best the best of all possible greatest possibility possible possibility and then we decided you know what was the best solution and at the end of the day we had  as to how to move forward and i can imagine that this is this is it it's possible be any different so i think what's important all is that we go into this process without any kind of pre established or previous preconceived notions about what the end up and result will be didn't know it was pretty controversial ones enough so i think this is a great idea great solution make sure everybody is on the same page as much as possible seeing how the town hall working function first hand got a lot of information some of it was misinformation you were able to get all that get out on the table and have respectful dialogue and basically what comes down to  you get people in a room and you talk about facts and you eliminate the misconceptions or or the hearsay in can people make a decision based on on facts not fiction and i think that's how the process can work especially with when you deal with some controversial controversial issues it's important to make make decisions based on facts not emotions i think just this process can get help s volunteers from the paid staff the animal control officer the building commission of the town planner in the d p w rather than putting them on a committee having them be available sort of sort of yes because it there pays all kinds right there's a lot of time that's going to go into this and it's not fair to say recap the whole meeting we went to but this started in the lab in in the purview of the conservation commission and for them to collectively say yes it's in their jurisdiction but where ok to give it to somebody else thank you to the commission for doing that because i think it was a proper procedure than the m b t a property was on conservation land which we don't really have jurisdiction over so i think that shows a collective from both so i see you back there mister ball betty is there anything you want to add to this from the chairmanship of the conservation commission but if you do could you just come to the microphone  i like but betty though that kind of struck from the last meeting one never knows but i answer to many as chairman of the conservation maisha obviously i cannot speak for the entire board but i wholeheartedly agree with the approach is being proposed and at our last meeting i think i read a statement that i was behind the proposal so there should be no doubt in anybody's mind that i'm for  voluntary ok and then for the rest of the planning board do you want take responsibility for reaching out and kind of summarizing this meeting make sense would you prefer to appoint somebody from our committee or what i think i think the we also have a new one forty task force the you'll be hearing about it's a study that's on the way now with an i p c is working directly with circuit which is a southeast regional planning district and we're doing a study from because we're probably going to be dead but the younger generation can open it and talk about it so you know that i think it's going to find their projects and keep your eyes open for that so i want to make sure that they cable access aware that too because they want to actually try and film the taking a town hall we have the contractors and project manager housed in various offices in the lower level of town hall as a result we've and corey and all of the people who are going to be on site so  when i took it on i figured that we like you know twenty or thirty people are probably at like three hundred names right now yeah but the they've you know just because they're going to be working in town hall and around so we want to make sure that it's safe for fast we also i just want to advertise based on bill's comments on the recreation program with very few openings left down tomorrow wraps up our summer hiring so if anybody's looking to be a recreation summer staff person or a lifeguard or even a d p w seasonal labor those are on our website and you will be wrapping those up tomorrow so please when it's in the newspaper it's been on the website for a couple weeks anyone's interested would love to have your application we're go be beginning discussions with the unions on health insurance again three years ago the town navigated through section chapter thirty two b section twenty one through twenty three making health insurance changes  are probably seventy five percent done with the description study before steelworker the fifty one positions and that and then we'll be meeting with a compensation consultant to help us put everything together but  because of the cost in the time of a consultant i sort of took on a one on one job description analysis with everybody which has been a really fine unintended consequence of it is that you get to meet one on one with people in a non stressful situation and talk to them out their jobs so that's been really good home to enjoy those meetings on probably seventy five percent done now and we were just now going to move forward on implementing the terms of the contracts that have been approved or will be funded at time meeting but the pieces that we are non funded you know start working on job descriptions and i mean for me it's a valuation it's for all these groups that we navigated so a lot of things going on but