beyond your knowledge to build on the information that we're giving and the whole purpose of this agenda is the wellness for you and the wellness for your animals when i do these shows and bring these guests on their informative to inspire you to investigate and then apply what works for you so please keep that in mind i'm the shows are designed to empower you with information to hopefully improve your health and your wellness and your quality of life today we have such and such an amazing guest i learned so much every time i talk with them his his expertise is beyond the universe in what he does he comes from a special place because he had an issue this kind of changes his paradigm on how you treat the body and i would like to welcome dr kass ingram i my friend great to be back home it's my pleasure now have you back y know you're such an asset and such a knowledgeable man on how the body functions you have a medical degree but at some point your life there was a change from what you were taught with your education where you  those people that get struck by lightning and how the it changes them and they become like a tuning fork in the end so i completely regenerated my who i am because of an illness resistance i had or not listening carefully to the patient which happens with sessions is very part big problematic you know they don't listen to what they're saying that i'm taking history the demands on them are so great because the people that are not well and it's not fair in any case because it ends up being like an economic thing even the hospitals they look at that in each case on how big the insurance is how many chemotherapies they can apply essentially inhuman it's inhumane really and all that standard doctor stuff disappeared when i got sick i tried it tune in and have a natural ability to tune in to what's going on with  people what the cause of their illness is well you know how to treat it successfully and help them you're looking at the root cause and then you're looking at how support the body which kills itself designed to heal itself and your approach is that way not a surprise not a intelligent about it i mean you have to find out the cause if you take you don't just go to any mechanic usually for a comic you can if you want somebody that you know that you've got that's got a good reputation or you go to the orthodox sources and they do the diagnostics right they make an assessment of what is mechanically wrong and and then they come to you and say we believe that these are the issues and that is completely derelict deficient in modern medicine i would tell you it's my experience that every medical provider that has changed this paradigm changed it because they got you know themselves and there was enough fix and then and then and the normal paradigm and i think that's universal among people like yourself and myself because that's exactly exactly my story as well i think that's the bottom line and these people now through their own experience their own illness and then what they did to  and getting psyched out about the children and all this suppressing my own immune system because of being so wound around the axle i was a vulnerable case i got the i v needle stick i was already in a depressed case and then the infection went in my body and started destroying me right and i thought i was losing my life it seemed like i was i was only thirty three and i'd only been in practice three or four years so i got too sick to practice and take care of people so but anyway they found out i had big can be the big fungus and then probably some viruses aids like viruses the patient that i v hit me was dead and i got cured by the natural approach not by the medical and that's a wake up call what happened to you and then just think about all these years what you're doing to help other people because of your experience because of that because of that i wouldn't take a back for anything but i looked like a concentration camp victim and i was a desperate person and complaining even about how could this be happening i i thought i thought i could never have good health because nothing was working nothing was curing it until god sent me a good friend who then took care of me i didn't have anywhere to live she took me up into her house she's a very experienced person she knew about some cures she'd been in the middle east and in north africa she knew about the oil of oregano you see that's and that was like brought over for me and i you know she rubbed it on my body and then we made a formula and all of oil and i started pouring it down one hundred two hundred three hundred drops a day honest to god huge dose and you basically had to do that on faith because you at that time probably did not know the science behind this i didn't really know the science behind it at all i just knew that when i had tried a little bit of a different oregano formula from a company a company had actually made it it was caustic you know how some of the regulars now aren't as a right but it still made me feel better for a couple days so i thought maybe it's a germicide and i've got all these germs but i can't use that caustic one i want to get that pure wild oregano from the mountains and then that's what happened it came over on a seven forty seven and came to the door step by the you know  and we just went excited and all of this is like liquid gold and opened up the canister and it went south you know because there were all the aromatic fumes and the cat jumped fourteen feet backwards because nobody had ever you know fumigate their house i don't think with oil of oregano it was a new thing was nineteen ninety four nobody that was what over twenty years ago so nobody knew anything about this and so a sepsis my infection my blood poisoning whatever i got and what i learned from that is that people get sick from my having needles from blood transfusions from food poisoning as what happened to you from vaccines because they're introducing germs from drug resistant germs in hospitals from a scrape that develops m r s a they get sick from colds or flu or strep that whatever it is and if you just had a germicide why worry about it and kill everything that's what i've learned and that's why i'm a big promoter about right now because no matter what strikes you  like myself you had a sour lemon in your life and what you've done is made the sweetest lemonade what happened i didn't do it it just happened when you were here last time we talked much about a right an oil and today though and i think it's so important for you to review that story because it's such a compelling heartwarming story you know today our topic is the thyroid to me that's that's one of my passions is the  believe it's the most neglected misdiagnosed abused part of our body and i think we need to do something about it right and we need to do that through education of everybody so if we if we look at the thyroid and we know it's a butterfly should grind on our part center or throat and we know it's it's the master gland if we don't have a healthy thyroid nothing in our body functions right t situation is that tuning for that lightning strike caused me to be an assessor of situations or maybe instinctive or the sort of angelic element or whatever it is a spiritual element or partly end of the stomach has an endpoint component that's completely collapsing and i wanted to figure out a tool i saw him doing bio identical hormones i saw  sliding into the into can all edgy office none of them were getting better really they really weren't and they weren't getting better in a natural way which is key because we're not synthetic no we're not a robot we're not we're not a machine we are a biological work of art we are and a consistent is this is a symphony and you have the violinist at parts of the ne we have the cello as you have every component all working together in there is a conductor which is the pineal in the pituitary and if there and then approach is completely wrong if the if the violinist was off tune the conductor tries to bring them back they don't yank him off stage they don't cut him off you know at the pass so we i knew that the system works together as a unit so how could we diagnose the imbalances of the unit is there a way we could focus on it like you said the thyroid and some people it's mostly the thyroid th cart thyroid is the first horse adrenal glands or the second horse so you're not you're meant to function with all your energy on that from that thyroid but when that thyroid is aas you have those adrenals the back up but when th you have nothing that's true actually and it's so much harder to restart those adrenals than actually to restart the thyroid so when we were in school and i i'm sure you recall this because i found it to be actually traumatic there's a crap cycle and we literally had to photograph it they memorize that crap cycle and on an exam reproduce it every step in that diagram and that picture and then begin to explain every component of it that's a difficult thing to do because it's so complicated and there's a lot of memorization and in there is and reproducing that for an exam the funny thing was the crap cycle is so critical because that's how we function that's our energy that's what that's our octane of gas in our body and it regulates our voltage and everything in our body but once we learned it and we were spit back on an exam never discussed again or no it was history and it's amazing when you get out into the real world and you start having problems the only thing that medicine checks really is a blood test is in the blood and they chase the blood test it's the blood and they don't look at the human being and what this also implies animals function exactly the same way to the blood they chase the blood there are issues with that because the blood isn't accurate especially if you're not doing a series of tests which i hope to talk to later on in the in the show address so when you are seeing patients and i would tell you in my observation eighty to ninety percent of people have some deficiency in their thyroid what do you see in a patient that has that well this was the whole thing knowing that the hormone system in the people is dysfunctional and knowing that it's not showing up in the blood test and eight out of ten times because it's just blood and knowing also that when when you do start to have a suppressed t forty three in other words when the fire it does show up or a high t s's when the blood is showing a fire of disorder you've already lost eighty percent of your function so the people that are operating at half function don't show up in the blood even sixty percent loss the blood is still compensating so how do how do we help the people diagnose or find out what their main and kind of balances are with this symphonic system working as a chemical factory unit and that's through looking at him through looking at signs and see exactly and even even just looking at this at the shape of the body and the texture of the the facial features the the length of the fingers the the way the torso is shaped the fact distribution i mean the end of consistent is the chemical factory of the body and it is the metabolic factory that's what the krebs cycle comes and it's very metabolically active that cycle is extremely active in the thyroid in the adrenal it's a big big activity regulated by the the thyroid it's actually exactly you know that's a bigger point is that the hormone system regulates metabolism and we're talking about a t p the production of energy which is then sent to the mitochondria in ourselves and then our mitochondria give us that burst of energy so none of that happens without t three none of that happens with that well i would say that none of it happens without active two three because we have this r t three which is which is a non active forms our body can utilize it and there are certain conversion factors or fourth of all this has to happen for that to be in a place so when you're not having a proper crop cycle function because your thyroid if you look at it and you address the mechanic if you look at yourself as a car you're getting instead of getting thirty eight miles per gallon you're getting to it's very possible so how do you how do you function on a day you can't maintain i cannot these are chemical messengers and they're more potent than drugs or the most potent substances known and they are the only substances that the body makes that work directly on the d n a insides and they get into the cell nucleus that happen the rolling factor so if you're missing this you're missing the whole boat in fact you were mentioning if your thyroid i with the piston like a piston from a car the compression is oxygen pure oxygen which compress the piston all the way down you're going to breathe oxygen when you remove the acids in the piston goes up in the normal fi varies with voltage you hold oxygen without voltage you lose oxygen what's critical about that for the audience is in and oxygenated environment the good pattern the good bacteria live in oxygen the bad bacteria live in an anaerobic on oxygenated environment so they're asleep in oxygen they wake up in the lack of oxygen you become acidic and then you start to see cancers diabetes heart disease pituitary where the fire or the metabolic rate inside the cell is so small that they develop a coating of their brain around their heart in the develop an infiltration in their cells of lymphoid type fluid called newson yeah music gum which is like a glue and we need a certain amount of music but when it becomes what you're describing it becomes a and they become of this depressed let's are slow affix in the extreme right we don't see extreme cases mix of the image so much and not so much anymore which is surprising me because of all the all the toxins that we're taking that are affecting our thyroid which will tell you some of the in between cases right and that's why i developed a system that's why i wrote the book i was giving the lectures all right what is your type what is your end of can type which if you're what it means the week area your type book i bought your book and i took it home and i read it and then a couple hours actually i was so compelling to me because my focus is the thyroid and wellness and it was such an easy book to read it was medical without being too technical and i think sometimes when you get too technical you lose people and but it described these different body shapes and i want to get back to the symptoms of low thyroid but you describe are telling us that the gland is coupling and we can tell when only twenty or thirty percent is gone so we can help people quickly resolve their in a consistent balances so what we see what is seen is first of all the parish shape which is pituitary which is the more rare shape one out of a hundred whatever and that's the butt of the pair going this way ok all right yeah ok they do have a tendency for the beach ball abdomen but they put the maximum amount of weight and cellulite in the buttocks and in the hips and the lateral hips and this area right here right here and a lot of times enormous buttocks but not not not a lot of fat deposition on the front of the thighs on the five so they could be diamond shaped pear shaped diamond shaped they tend to have a round head sometimes a small head for the size of the body which is a big sign if i see a teeny head for the size of the body i'm looking for a week  pituitary pituitary they have medium thickness hair to find they don't tend to have the corsair of hypothyroid they have smooth face they don't tend to have them and they are tired  and they produce a specific for the thyroid thyroid stimulating hormone and there's that messenger circle that goes communication between the thyroid and the pituitary and when that's off generally we can tell if it's too low or too high we can then tell that there's a thyroid issue that's right and of course now pituitary disorders are really a modern disease of civilization as a consequence of refined sugar concern white flour depleted foods we didn't see a lot of put to a tourism prior to the introduction of processed food so another thing course pituitary tumor or too much blood loss during delivery could affect the fetus could affect the mother and you can develop so without proper nutrition without proper nutrition and without correct supplementation you're in you're not supporting the pituitary to do well actually the pituitary is has high demands of of dioxins radiation and that m s g which is an aura toxin is so so critical and it's so hidden in our processed food with a bunch of names it's easy to just google m s g and names and you'll see a list of support then you develop an apple and that's where the large part of the top of the apple is you turn the apple upside down and you're narrower here and then you get white in the front that barrel shaped barrel can either be a barrel long watermelon or an apple and the apple and here at the waistline it doesn't go into the hips there these are the thyroid type they're flat on the as like a half an apple they're big on the front of the apple and they're flat in that their ear and laugh and you see this and you assume these people are beer drinkers you do and a lot of them are teetotallers yeah and what they have is they have that lack of activity and they don't have the ability to burn the peritoneal fat or the fat that the ponce on the front of the side for some reason and so it comes right on the front with usually a lot of handle on the back yesterday and he proceeded to notice a lady walking across the parking lot and right away as i came keyed in on our set up she has this she has this and that's when medicine should be we're not a blood test we're not an x ray we are signs and symptoms we are we're individuals complete everybody different than the other have you ever i mean in a crowd of three hundred people lecturing there's never two people even remotely identical even identical twins aren't perfectly i know no and then the third time is the real time when those are mainly dysfunctional and they they are like carrot but an upside down carrot not this way with the butt of the carrots down their very narrow i mean you can let yesterday i said no no you're an adre sorry your adrenal first she had a small head then your pituitary then your thyroid and she had a smart narrow head fine hair narrow neck her collarbones were and that's a typical low adrenal shape and it makes sense because they don't have enough cortisol what is a bodybuilder take take steroids adrenal steroids to have muscle tone so they have poor muscle tone on the abdomen welcome back to let's talk healthy pets we're here with dr kass and of course my little buddy tucker here is just being a trooper and dr kass we left on break talking about your book the body shape diet and the different observations you  make that that tells you immediately what the pituitary doing what the thyroid is doing and what they do in allegedly based on signs that you see on the physical body and that's incredible and when i read your book available on amazon on amazon my natural market book you could order in a bookstore health food stores the information there is presented in such a clear precise manner but a bit of a medical but not technically medical easy read i think i read it in two hours because i was so on and through all the reading and and getting to the end of the book and i sat and put it down and you describe these different body types and then you describe something it was really interesting to me developmentally deficiency as we develop and you are talking about the length of your fingertips what would you demonstrate it and  talk to us about that well there are about four main types that you that all of our audience is going to fit into four five and you can figure it out by your shape the shape of the head also the you know the fat distribution and also some odd signs like how course your hair thin is the loss of hair from the arthur the eyebrows which is thyroid puffiness in certain areas fat had all of those things are very good but the the monic the easiest you know close to your type is looking at the hand so if you're you're not sure if you're apple shape you think you are you think you're a pair of shape so you've got to start if you're perrier pituitary for apple your thyroid if you're carrot your adrenals well how can we close it real quick look at the hands with the dominant eye over the hands hands down not so much this way hands down dominant eye over and type you see two short index fingers as we're going to see with you versus the ring if it's a true siren type it's too short index fingers about the same amount of shortness on that index finger versus the ring and then when i wrote the book i think i meant thyroid type so i started treating myself with natural thyroid support and that changed everything and i started eating more meat more animal fat less carbs you see so you've got to know your type to not only get better health but to prevent a catastrophe using me as an example and i'm going to have to hold my hands up and the matter not to do it describe to the audience what what i am you are a thyroid adrenal see you have a short index finger that's obvious here but not so obvious there is almost the same link as the as the ring so i'm i'm a combo you're a head and you're a little bit more narrow here and that's more a little more towards you dreamily now you have the enlarged facial pores which is a fire right orientation b six in magnesium deficiency all of that but and then you have the that's also rivaling viciously but you're right there's also the adrenal person who has a totally different hand situation to adrenal person the carrot shaped they're not apple they're not pair they're narrower in the face sometimes receding chin sometimes crowding of the lower incisors they don't have enough room when they develop in the job they're not making enough androgens not enough the stasi wrong to make a good solid bone and but anyway they have a long index finger vs a ring not night you know in other words this one's longer or it's the same length as the rain then we know they're more a dream utero as we're born in developing these deficiencies are impacting us and shyness showing up the telltale sign a lot of our fingers that that hormone status of the mother and the father in the stress level at the time of conception will determine the type but another factor is if you if you if you're eating tons of refined sugar when you're pregnant and process foods and if the baby when the development two three four years is fed heavy doses of refined sugar you can force a person from being a thyroid type into an adrenal type by collapsing the adrenal glands but by the time you're five eight years of you'll love it it certainly will inspire you and make you think and may help you turn your life around because it addresses solutions you're not going to change a lot of these fingers you're always going to have the evidence that what you what occurred but you're going to change how that's the to a terry how to thyroid and how to do you know go and respond in your body which then causes this overall almost a starter that's right i want to know what your type is so that we can give the right sarap the they're trying to do that with bio identical but you're missing the mark because you're just taking a single cent semi synthetic hormone i'd rather see you do a whole foods approach for the animals and the humans it's more effective and it's safer and what if what's interesting you just said semi synthetic as everybody thinks is bio identical hormones are all natural but they are partly synthetic and dressing the animals i would tell you that diet is the most critical thing for all of us but especially for these animals because the diets are very poor and very left and lack of protein and then you start seeing animals that have heart problems and diabetes all the saying  so under assessed in animals even more than humans and i don't know if we will talk about testing for thyroid and so forth i don't know if there is a test that they do in their scope of test for for dogs they usually do the typical t s h and free t for test where we could just see the dog and the cat for example these these these these powers open up a capsule and all needed and that's what i do with my dogs you have to make the  assessment that they probably most likely because of diet because of vaccinations because of antibiotics because of mostly florida and chlorinated water that you're probably giving them that they're hypothyroid for the most part are and i said so yeah exactly so so the not the clean herds are in new zealand in argentina so we can take the liver the power the heart or the thyroid power that your dream will tolerate of the ovarian powder a and put these in here and then therefore for the dogs in the cats we can open an adrenal capsule a pituitary capsule a little bit maybe half a counselor or whatever and siren and put it in their food and their food and that with the cats they should take the adrenal because cats never eat carbohydrates they shouldn't and they're even corn and whatever right right so they're adrenals collapse very quickly and they don't eat cooked food the greens and maybe in the stomach cats never touch the stomach they eat just the flesh and then they actually like the head from the most yeah exactly so i never suggest of course protein but i think it's a fair assumption the say that if you have a dog that is not doing well it starts with a diet then thyroid and i ruined her and adrenals are affected and you have these disease processes surfacing all the time and and of course the vaccinations suppress the immune system and then there's there's no battle for the dog to fight because the for the cat because they don't have it anymore it's been removed so and again that happens with us we are no different they're no different than us  would you kind of go over and you direct symptoms and people can i mean we need to know your type because if the end of consistent is more important for sudden death and serious disease then you can imagine  if the thyroid is down it's a carcinogen to you it's a cardiac crisis to you it's a hypertensive and diabetic crisis in an arthritic crisis it's it's everybody comes to me in their joints or sees i want to know if this but you get tired it's hard to get up in the morning it takes a big one that's really the biggest one hard to get in the morning is if you struggle you will stand up late at night and you can't sleep at the same time very well tossing and turning low oxygen to the brain and then sometimes depression i would say depression is a big factor not enough oxygen burning but the big thing is the danger zone of heart fibrillation congestive heart failure you know various bundle block and cardio and coronary artery disease and high cholesterol and plugging up of the arteries diabetes all big syndrome x and diabetes huge and then the arthritic in the morning your stiffer course hair very you can't metabolize vitamin a then you start to lose your vision you start to develop macular degeneration loss of hair definitely hair loss especially in women if you have hair loss and women unless it's exposure to the toxins it's  also porton with with her attention so you sit there and you could look at this list of sin depression anxiety temperature sensitivities especially the heat or on the opposite side can't tolerate the cold cold hands cold hands and cold feeble core of the body cold core the body in the olden days and you brought up cholesterol high cholesterol was the indicator for this is it and if i can just briefly give you my theory on this and you can concur or spar say well i have a different theory our thyroid is a voltage regulator with voltage you hold oxygen with oxygen the the good bacteria are alive and well and doing their job without oxygen the bad bacteria the pathogens who are anaerobic live without oxygen wake up and start to do their damage  vironment mean one without oxygen on alkaline and were meant to be slightly alkaline we grow fungus and then our diet feeds that fungus fungus produces cholesterol all of old out of control three hundred and above i think it's in the olden days it was three twenty that went by and said no you are three twenty you had in the whole fungal thing in the one nine hundred thirty s when people started to develop toenail fungus they gave them high doses of beta dine to activate the siren that's basically had and the tonal fungus disappeared so so so the low metabolic rate is correct the oxygenation is is blocked ninety eight percent and then you develop the finger nail fungus and toenail fungus the intestinal candidiasis the mold in the sinuses and the vulnerability of the fungus and then the fungus suppresses the thyroid by producing acid aldehyde and for melbourne which suppress it it's a vicious cycle so you do need to if you've got fungus it's not just we talked about before all of regen on a regular max and all but you should is a dire signed if you don't deal with it of eventually developing a cancerous tumor because you're not burning oxygen just like you said right where we're meant to be an oxygen and everything is kind of in bay at bay when were were really not and then sudden death from cardiac and you might be a pretty healthy person but your thyroid to slow you develop a clot in the corner artery because you can't metabolize those the material you can metabolize the cholesterol and then liver disease and liver sluggishness but then now we move on into say adrenal and we if we have low adrenals then we have allergy and sensitivity and we go into anaphylaxis shock from eating a peanut when if we supported the adrenal glands it wouldn't happen or if we took a bit of oil of to knock out the micro toxins that we might have a tendency to as in the with with low adrenal bronco spasms vague digestive disorders no one can diagnose a vague pain in the upper mid shoulders that's all adrenal for us and cortisol is necessary it's one of the ingredients for this conversion factor of t four to the active forty three and just to list those conversion factors you need iodine which is so important and if you think about what we do in life we what's interesting about this is because the type of iodine in here is biologic and that's important because a lot of idea that it is it is so this you don't need as much and now when you go even deeper into the adrenals you need the company like the siren is the i then in the adrenals you need the cholesterol you need the salts you need the sodium chloride actual sea salt material the trace minerals from the freshly dry and ocean salt along with plenty of cholesterol and plenty of animal fat dripping from organic animals and plenty in this case some starch but well solvent not so much vegetables more fruit more tomatoes more of a condo's more all of those and low sugar fruits for adrenal but i mean one of the other issues with adrenal is somebody's got anxiety they go to the doctor they say you've got problems you may need a drug they've got to panic attacks are obsessive compulsive and those are all adrenal cured with adrenal therapy not with drugs one of the beginner caters to the that you automatically notice that you wake up at one thirty two o'clock two thirty in the seeing that sense in this that since i'm a waking up and not being able to fall back to sleep at around that time of the morning you know right off that you have an adrenal problem and there's another big issue in that is they can't fall asleep and can't fall asleep because when they have complete  dreamily exhaustion they have orthostatic hypotension and what happens is when they sit up their blood pressure is high but when they lay down well that when they sit up the blood pressure is low but when they lay down it goes up because they actually almost hypertension and and and so if that higher blood pressure because the cortisol can't modulator the fluid is pounding on the head and they can't sleep if they put two pillows in like this and meat on a fairly regular basis and you don't eat a lot of red meat certainly needs a beer breath organic grass fed free range red meat but you know if you have the right amount of stomach acid you will break those i mean you know asses down it's funny to break that to have that protein from that that meat it's a form bodied us with stomach acid our body breaks that protein down into new no additives and then reassembles reconstruct them for what you need and for what i need and then there are simulated e i want to know you know that what the adrenal status is back to this glue the silent thing in the s o d there's another way to do it spice oils cumin oregano see induce the production of when when we're dealing with the s o d which protects the adrenal glands from degenerating in the heart then we're dealing with jagga and that would be the child will power drops the child with the birchbark that's going to give you the s so so that's an interesting thing that both the fire within the adrenal glands run to an awful lot and some of the right out liveth ion is is your master anti oxidant and without it we're in desperate trouble and we need to support this you're not going to get it in the diet this is it this is an interesting study in fifty years the nutrition in our food has fallen fifty percent so our grandparents are run and then we're being and we're being fed soy and corn those are anti cortisol anti estrogen anti protest rooms and we're getting very deeply that i mean another important note on the diet you can kind any about reducing fat to certain fats you need to reduce but there are facts that you have to consume in about a twenty percent ratio because they maintain and hold that voltage they do and  especially if you have this adrenal exhaustion you're not you're burning up your cortisol and your for just runs in your d h if you need to put the fat back in and say none of this is a mystery it's just a matter of applying the pieces of the puzzles you have a sluggish liver you cannot convert t four to t three because it's done in the liver eighty percent of it's done in the liver the spleen in the kidney to serve so so what when when those things are affected by what we're being butter they were using or whatever right now they didn't say well i can only have two eggs a week such somehow eggs got a bad deal but i got a bad deal am a fat got a bad deal but they're so necessary absolutely organic and we want organic stuff which is less toxic so our body needs us we've totally been line three lied to now for your vehicles in the audience they need to do compensate ideally with the chunka which is gives you the priester the or should talk he added that in for the adrenals if they won't do the animal they need to look at royal jelly and be pollen which gives you the steroids in the priest or aids and we will have a nice formula yeah i mean they may be maybe a vegan could at least for the medical needs to support at least take the new zealand gland mueller's because medically they're the the v a guinn's and vegetarians are getting cardiac they're getting heart attacks sooner than the organic  mediators because they're not getting the carnitine they're not getting the glandular material they're not getting the cholesterol heart attacks occur more commonly in the low cholesterol patients and a high absolutely and what's interesting here is vegans and vegetarians cannot be healthy for this very very reason there's something called iraq a donna gas and we have a iraq a donna gas a between eleven and nineteen percent in our body brain nerves liver it helps it helps with so much it's  too much as an inflammatory right but we need a certain amounts vegetarians know being a vegetarian source of it it's only comes from animal flesh through a very high and it so without that you can never be well because you carnets absolutely essential to transport fatty acids into the hearts of the heart can burn them as fuel and actually helps you to lose weight and which everybody seems to be so fat and so fat conscious should be looking at the science of nutrition not the fat and