good evening it is monday me two thousand and fifteen we're here for the town of richmond water and sewer commissioner meeting welcome member of the public i thank you then maybe ill advised but on our agenda tonight we have water storage tank up date east mean street water line discussion on those are both pretty detailed the west main extension update costs and progress it's going to standing out in these days specific topic that we discussed at least once before and now it will be able to address the detail we dive into the water storage tank update i believe people are familiar from our annual meeting conversation about the status of water storage tank update ira how much we want to repeat revisit or how much is updates in particular you'll put the growth or the korean contacts you'll get a sense of what we're talking about which really isn't that much different is really just before and a couple of numbers add up top basically what we're faced with on the take it is the the low bit was one million six hundred twenty nine thousand dollars and we've managed to make a few modifications and bring that down to one million four hundred thirty four five hundred we're going to take out what's called a record just number two which is the demolition of the existing storage tanks twenty seven thousand two hundred w have to do that later under a separate contract and we do have a five percent contingency which is seventy one thousand seven hundred twenty five dollars there are a few other items which we try to cover under  and that probably won't be wrapped up until early next year so we've already spent that money it's just showing very if you take a look at my memo are you have a financial plan to that was approved in march of two thousand and fourteen we have one million one hundred ninety six thousand six hundred ninety eight dollars left we need to get the work word to agree to approve the additional seventy five thousand dollars above that bid historically i think we manage through it's been closer but that's true i think for recent projects they've actually been over what the bids came in i think you should keep in mind that estimate that we were working off of was really valid in october of two thousand and thirteen so you're talking you know eighteen months before we went out the bid and the word from pete lately is that the economy's approved there's a lot of work out there and the prices are higher i think we did very well on the chlorine contact time but this project there through the roof and it certainly is i hear right that the forty four thousand has already been paid yes and where did i come from we put it initially against the bond ok so it's still coming out ok so you were continue walking through the right so going back again through the power to pay for it we have one million one hundred ninety six thousand six hundred ninety eight dollars under the bond to get the select board to approve another seventy five thousand above that we have once been jericho road money fifty three thousand water reserves of a hundred forty thousand sewer fund there could be forty one thousand five hundred twenty seven dollars that will cover the construction for the construction engineering by a query on the engineering the eighty nine thousand one hundred dollars will come out of fun if we still have the demolition of the existing tanks we'll have to address that at a future time again the purchase of land i think we'll be able to hit that as much of that as we can under the lower them after we see where the contingency what this would do in spite of the bad news the bid being higher by some modification of the project itself and by tapping other revenue sources we could make it happen and that's what essentially going to use that in a little bit more in the next fiscal year to cover the take so we're not going to be totally cleaned out we're going to be using a lot of cash a lot of reserves but we'll still have f here stafford is that we act on this plan and if we if we don't can we go back to the drawing board i think it will be a long drawn out process and i don't know really what changes you would make that would cut four hundred thousand dollars off the project unless you go to up the tank similar to what we have now which is going to be objected to by quite a few people i think so there would be the motion i will second his formal motion time to reasons it's come up before it's now also soon after the other projects the first thing is it's at the state top of the state's priority list we were revolving loan funds this is the same fine that's given as the negative interest rate on the water storage tank so that same funding is available so we're guaranteed least a negative point seven percent and due to the projected cost and adding the water tank to that is probably  so to sort restate the obvious we're bounded by a couple of things but one is the paving schedule of the state and then if we back plan from that into what we have to do once again the first step is upon code that comes before the financing concrete work that there seems to be plenty of great you know i don't know how much water on work there is really going to be the summer next summer it's one more specialized i don't think that there's that same level of competition see so i guess the question is we've got the water tank they're going to have to pay our users are going to have to thank you for your service the town of richmond authorized the construction of water line improvements for east main street with the amount financed through indebtedness ninety one million two hundred thousand dollars to be financed over a period not to exceed thirteen years to be paid and so that's kind of a known quantity with an estimated following them of use estimated number of household which wouldn't change very much at the very beginning but if we make extensions work all the way there then you make it work or face need to be entrenched are we have to open for business on what would it take we'd be willing to negotiate something we talked about this some months ago saying that  it's hard to get somebody to make a commitment other than saying we really need a commitment from you without which we cannot proceed but the second question of her item four on your memo for the select momentum and one of the things i express to jeff is that i don't i don't see the utility of negotiating small details like picking the color of the surprised if the mobile home park folks her somewhere waiting for them to see what it looks like do we have a sense of the timeline jeff when we might expect the results of discovery it's been out there really that this is if people are waiting for the result that specially the mobile home park that we want to get that on together the mobile home park back on the front burn mix is there anything else we want to talk about about west main then so that will continue to be an agenda item so the next time we might to put it was the income survey and b in mobile home park to the meeting or their representative and see what they have to tell us about an update from their side  so we have in front of us a waterline repair from this past winter which is eight thousand one hundred ninety one dollars and change  so your proposal is to it if we describe this is something of a compromise that if we put the current brake behind us and the brasseries in vast and remedy that prevents a future break and it benefits both so where will we go we be talking to essentially you know we make no decision you know one approach is to try to pursue the eight thousand hours unwillingly from the breast hers which is likely to be uphill and we'd have to prove our case the other is to accept the compromise this candle carries forward here today that we would essentially absorb the eight thousand hour break but in exchange for that the would make every pair that would help to avoid or prevent any future breaks so it would be an investment in the future we're out eight thousand dollars but we're not out future breaks this could happen again if we don't do this and then we c then i guess one of the questions it is it is at what point or in the future is the commission responsible for line repair versus the the process be the same and is any approve it be except that a proposal to replace the one and that we would not pursue and the claim for the eighty one hundred in change we can read their ground insulated and i'm just looking in the their language with the preexisting permit or agreement i guess i call this an agreement has a permit at the any future damage to the existing water on were to be incurred by the aggressors there would be more powerful to the install so that part of my thinking is i don't think our position is as so these are not you know they were these are just numbers there's less soldiers placeholders please or so we in any event we could this is for a preliminary version for discussion purposes so one of the things we so maybe for a future version we should just make sure that the categories and the percentages match up here so that there's a good cross marking and in terms of use and then we could have a discussion about who we are we inskeep tween the capacity and then the rate structure in terms of actual use so i know that because where this goes with some of the b o t a demand like one user using higher density effluent determine appropriate by the board this speaks to sort of what how much capacity is used in treatment but then to go back to how do we determine the calculation of your strength versus somebody have a fee for the fixed charities like everybody else they'll have a recharge for the gals that these like everybody else and then we'll look at what their actual strength was that they sent to the ceiling and then only a percentage would be an additional ch look like including the commercial load element and i guess i defer to you count on how soon you'd want to do that strikes me that this is not urgent but it really useful to get ahead of it you know we don't have to do it next to deal with this the two together and sort of the capacity allocation and pencil tweaks to rates and give it a somewhat longer period of time more like thirty minutes when we have time to do that because i called so i'd like to be respectful the same treat this with some level of urgency it seems like somewhere in the past somebody did this on purpose tool it will waive the cost of proper case we should deal with these sequentially are there any comments on the water and sewer commission meeting minutes of march sixteenth