welcome to a special monday edition of inside media weekly i'm ryan bomb i join yet again kevin bastos over on the left with a very giant tree caffeine abuse very soon passing on my right  have given neighborhood or you or your apartment or i have an apartment but we're we're not a trick or treating area you know they lock those doors we don't let the kids and all my mom used to say she went trick or treating in apartments specifically  all right you guys are so excited about which is worse last week and i struggled trying to come up with an i look a and i thought i had one very i was very excited to get a bio pic on dennis wilson and i know where which is worse you're in for the serious topic which one is worse than the i pad mini having to follow in the footsteps of the i pad or the surface r t tablet being the first release o windows eight family so both so you've got the i pad mini following a great device with a less as you keep pointing out less is less is less basically everything about the i pad mini is worse or the surface r t tablets which is not a fully functional when there's a tablet and it's kind of the promote this huge windows eight stuff in the first device the first real device they have coming out the mass market has a less than perfect less than even fully functional lifes which is worse oh i'm stan keeping with my guns apple dumb not good not doing anything interesting since steve jobs died i mean you're increasing your pixel resolution and you're decreasing the size with the same old thing again i mean how many releases have they done that with over and over and over again i don't think the surface is a great move but it's going to get better in a couple weeks i mean the i pad one never called the i one is still out there and a lot of people picked it up this is a running attempt at things trying to get things out there but more than likely when the new surface comes out they'll put some sort of a deal together just like apple did trade in your old device will give you a hundred bucks off or two hundred bucks off and a pile of people will do that i mean you know the student is in here foaming at the mouth rabidly passing his service around i have to tell you i was impressed by it i mean it's it's a nice looking machine i'm not going to run and buy one yet pull at them work out those bugs but i'm more impressed by that than i am by apple same old same old same old thing again i'm more impressed by the surface i'm sick of the new tech but i think microsoft is the worser on this case just because you're they should've stolen a page from apple's book with the release of a new product that is revolutionary whereas you can you're blowing your wad too early whereas you're coming out with this device that's not going to be  this coming on a few weeks and they're not really marketing it that way so not letting the average consumer know about that so if you're in it you're going to buy a device thinking that you're going to have this great new thing and then a couple weeks later it's not going to be able to do what it's supposed to or it's intended to be able to do and you're to be stuck with that if they do offer the trade back they'd be very smart but so i'm going to call sucker on those people that couldn't wait two weeks you just threw two hundred dollars to get something that's essentially you know going to be out of date already workstation device and i see i don't know if it's necessarily set up to compete there i think it's jumping on or trying to compete with the not the kindle the kindle fire i think that's where it's specifically designed from my vantage point i feel like it could have been the perfect storm for the surface coming out at holiday time where apple doesn't have that huge product they have now i pad mini that's not as big as they've had in recent and they are taking what microsoft does best with having the beta testing of their software example they keep everything hidden you have the bigger beta test you can work on all your kinks where most your kinks and then you have that huge launch and they skipped on the huge launch really for that kinda whole even the i pad a nexus seven type of user someone who's not doing massive computing they want to they want to browse the web check e mail that i played in my kids hands and and the idea being that but i mean that's an interesting theory that they were trying to get this out there so that developers will develop all kinds of apps and things for it because that is the r t will only run apps that are bought through the windows store you can't load stuff on it and that's  the big beefs with the r t version of the surface we'll get back to i pad many surface news but there's a they say this is a groundbreaking humongous news story but i can't say this is a big surprise for those that have not paid attention their tech news george lucas has sold lucasfilm to disney i mustn't forget this is not just star wars it's also here jones this is the this is the is it indiana jones i heard back and forth about that as it is all the lucas film properties now they want to cut out of they will they'll have rights to the characters the original movie still paramount  and he wouldn't listen if he'd just if he lived to one hundred thirty i don't care i wish he would have died and then as she did she would sell it off that way i would have some sort of a semblance of believe that he wasn't such a well again i was thinking or i'm thinking a lot of nasty words here and i'm attempting to try and find a way that he's just selling off his properties for cash and i understand that but i wish he had a little bit more integrity with it i mean crying out loud man has more money than most of the small nuclear weapons i understand that's fine why does he have to sell it first and then give it away if is money grabbing children had done it i would have been ok well it's the kids course they're selling it off you can't split r two d two and whatever i mean really you know you have these properties and you have rights to these two episodes and you have this so they just combine it all and sell it off that's fine but this way he's him to say for him to give away two billion dollars and still sit on another two billion dollars that's to you when i like throw in a dollar in a kettle and salvation army it's nothing who cares what you got two billion dollars does not matter anymore i see the complete opposite of the search i'm in first i see a story completely different go interesting whatever they announced the episodes one two three when they're really coming out with those how many years later i was be right back in again like i'm going to actually excited about this when i don't know why i should be just because i know what disney's recent resume has been with these kind of things and what the star wars name recent resume's been with these things everything points to bad but sure enough they're going to get my so i think while i'm actually on the opposite end of the view i think this is a great thing for him because he is and he's been talking about retiring for a good time you know good but it's time he named kathleen kennedy to be the new president of lucasfilm i was over the summer i think you know if even a few months back you realize you're serious this time you really want to get out of it to him the idea was he wanted to get from from what you hear about what he has said so far to the press he's the he's tired fiasco and so i think he's setting it up for better times possibly in and i you know you're talking about the prequels i'm not one of those people i guess that i just i join movie if it's there and i don't worry about what's not there and a lot of people were very upset about the special edition and i really want to badly have the original you original version of these movies and to me it's like you know every movie i see there's a scene or something i don't like in it there's maybe one or two movies that i think are maybe absolutely perfect but huge on practical effects i absolutely love practical facts and i i have a very hard time dealing with c g i unless it is extremely appropriate whereas we had the foundation they were practical effects just because of the time period and then you bring in this whole different c you know was obviously not around for the the original trilogy and then you watch when the prequels came out of the star wars movies and it was just this is the first chance people had that they could spew venom if they hated it and what's interesting to me is to see a lot of that same group of people are now absolutely insane i wish lucas would would die or would give this i don't wish that he die but but suddenly now are saying all this is the worst possible company you could sell to disney is go they're all together they're all opposing but it's just i find that curious to see this seems like no matter what happens maybe it's because it's just a polarizing group of movies now or with the issues i movies than battleship yeah i'm not going to deny where you were just in those movies and cost a quarter of a billion dollars true i went in expecting it to be horrendous and it was mediocre that helped and i think it did and i went in expecting to be a total train wreck and it was fair think if i was under the watch on television sure if i was investing in it and someone gave me a set i have this idea for a battleship movie i'd say oh i'm all i invested already at the office i gave my two billion disney is moving its way to try and open that boy market up i mean it's smart you have this huge mega corporation and you know i joke about being an evil corporation it's not evil i love disney world i mean are you talk love disney i don't like that it's very financially motivated i don't like that the decisions of the film are now going over to a corporation i think that's always a lose because it dilutes itself it's going to be the master going to fund the formula now i wouldn't necessarily say formula but it's a board of directors making decisions instead of an individual someone and you know i love hitchcock and there are some garbage that he did but it was all him these are my decisions this is what i've done a mermaid in with us integrity and i feel like that's gone now and to fall lucas and to an extent spielberg for the the dissolving of the franchise of indiana jones i mean that's you know going over to this corporation mentality now and i think that what worries me the most is there isn't this person behind it anymore and you know we're loudly disagreeing with decisions he made on you know changing of the first three movies and let me really go out on a limb to say this star wars empire strikes back and return of the  not what you'd call brilliant films they're great stories but i think their mythology is far better than the film itself the experience of the film is far better than the sum of its parts you could be very critical about those films  or you could be very positive about them depending on your perspective and i think the reason so many people do have such a worshipful nature of them is because some we were six seven eight ten years old and there were a lot of films in that genre really appealing and it's one of those things that became better with age i mean more than likely you guys have a few films on your resume list that you love that aren't great films but this tends to be a commonality in the back of everybody that's a great film and i mean we're seeing these one two three next three episodes in a much more mature level i mean truly i think lucas could have made three films that were better than the original three and people are still so they hate them well and it seems like kids love the prequels and a lot of parents hate them and it's probably you know and the first set it's the same with the walks yeah it really is well and you know you talk about the commercialization you know there's been talk some a blander ending everybody happy ending rather than the darker ending that a lot of them were hoping hoping for so i would like to back it up just a little bit with with rebind i just have to disagree with  about this whole the individual you reference hitchcock having like all the power of film i think i think what made the first two episodes is that all of those four five star were so successful is that lucas had to collaborate he didn't have the final say in everything he was he would he didn't have his resume that he has now as of being able to bank on these films so here to answer somebody else or he was actually receiving input whenever turned over to him having all the power that's when you start to see at least in my mind some of the the blender films or so we go to more of a creative individual or a producer that were maybe let you do something like spielberg that's when you can get the creative input and you can have a little bit of a more evolved story in there so i mean i think going to disney we're going to see th disney channel affected whereas disney channel in there and they have their show that ari has a real main actor they have to be able to sing we have to have a song of this we have to have that stage presence once the season's out we gotta be able to get money off of that we have to have the cold little cautions that they can now how are they going to emulate all this stuff that's how i feel i least invision them going forward with these kind of projects they're looking strictly for the money it doesn't matter who they're going to hire as director you still have to answer to disney that's just the on this look that they have on you i think we're on the same side i don't think we disagree mrs carroll i mean i think i just so i think us look at corrupted itself i mean i understand that he and i don't i don't love lucas necessarily but my were saying i mean my perspective was i think it was better to have back about peter jackson i feel like that's exactly what happens on one of the rings i felt like as he gained more power i thought the movies started were great pretty decent ok as far as the first thing that's my concern i think with how i focus i'm a second person best tower's i but i thought the third one i just worst of them yeah and what i felt like should have been and i should have and i felt like it was peter jackson kind of gain power when he was he was also working with his coco operators throughout the three but it felt like the first movie was so tolkin influenced and the last one was ok here's a few bits of which are the king and i'm going to do i write my own stuff and and make it my own vision  do you again i think what we're doing with these trailers these long episodic things the very first when you're setting up all the characters who are learning all about them i feel like as we go into the next stages you still want to learn even more about the characters and those things are the falling short now they're like we already have a big blockbuster hit let's get the action there again let's get them back into the theater where they're making a safer film as far as getting the big blockbuster costume changes can we have so we can have yet figures that we put out right there they're not looking at it from a storytelling i suspect anymore they're by the painful by the right in this very very very very very slow trying to be big and epic and as things went on robert just got pushed to the side and this is the creator of of it and you read some of these stories that that as he was getting ill as he got older they were just kind of cinema script as a courtesy he would send it back with all his nose and it was ignored do you think any of that kind of you know l being one step ahead of this as opposed to seeing something like that where somebody who had created this entire entity this entire universe much like he had done had it kind of pooled away from your time shoved aside and marginalized as here he's he's making the decision well i know that i read an interview with somebody again who talked about getting access to the scripts he had through episode twelve and that's pretty impressive that he had that kind of vision and i can never even as a kid hearing when they released empire and they put that episode five in front of it is you don't know there was no episode four in the original film and talking about how he had planned to do one two three later and then seventy nine  later in his life and i thought to myself oh wow wow that's really impressive that's awesome and it may have been not much more than a treatment or an idea or a concept at the time and then he sort of you know gradually acquiesced control over the novels all that there's a ton of stuff out there i mean as crazy as people are about star trek that whole universe and speaking cling on and going to things which i think is obscene there are myriad ads of text written then fictionalized things about everything out there star wars sure go to that well see what's good out there and discuss the problem with it is again the you know mcdonald's launching of it