radio broadcast signal from radio station in seattle that particular example came from mr weiss fatherhood moved from seattle to houston you better steam up a concrete solution allow people to listen to regional broadcast cases so that we have something can look in terms of similarity and there are a number that are implicated in your case and most particularly mine is in the internet cats case so if you're familiar with that case can you tell that makes and i should have struck that is not in the fundamental economic concept or mathematical algorithm category set forth by the supreme court but it seems to have something to do with methods of organizing human activity so the way the problem is described and where the technology existed at the time was that you could stream radio or or other contact on your home computer that you were tied to your home computer like of dish your other option was to listen to whatever's on the radio in your car so the problem that the solution that's described something that you know we're all familiar now see a big what if they say there's an app for that but yeah sort of come out of two thousand and eight status in two thousand on this record there is no evidence of any application for any purpose whatsoever that is stored and maintained to be downloaded to a wireless device for the law that device to do anything in this case is to allow that device more well first i think there is a you have to read the whole specification if you look post laid out it describes an entirely new system it did not exist in two thousand where use of electronic device at the center of your whole kind of media evil system and that can be presented on different devices and eventually gets to doing regional drug test with that on a wireless electronic device so the whole specification builds that off and that question of whether there's one twelfth of or i'm sure defendants will bring that explicitly finding one false or for these crimes so to say that we can be here pleadings and decide that there's not one twelve support in order to lead to a decision that there's a one on one subject matter eligibility problem i think this he's going to find one too that is contrary to what the supreme court has said doesn't make sense for this case the secretary of the district court was having established that to say well was that a longstanding commercial practice wh abstract idea of dissemination of originally broadcast content to a user outside that region and then the court found that that was a longstanding commercial practice and again your honest question about didn't the supreme court practice i think your own or you can look at it into slices the first longstanding commercial practice is frankly if fundamental business practice and that is a business wanting to expand its market share outside of that initial broadcast outside of that initial region is something that has been done since the beginning of broadcasting itself frankly from the time of the beginning of communication between humans themselves so i don't think historical observation that this is true and this court has done that in the past for example in the in the content extraction case recognising that banks for a long period of computer device you're giving and it is a very functional level of describing something in fact it was so functionally describe that if the it was actually in fourteen it talks about it over the air downloads so we're talking about it downloads it's different we know that it is not that because they don't describe how it is actually downloaded on to the phone over the air and you can look at the specification in the patents first station eighty one and if you look implementing this on a computer was already done at that time and so this is just simply not just move abstract idea to a computer move it to a cellular telephone and there is no how as to how you accomplish that devices it was not the problem we're dealing with how do we develop these apps how do we download them how do we how do we accomplish that objective yes but what you just said was that the matter what you had was a wireless telephone or a mobile telephone i think is what it was referred to in t l i and the mobile out telephone was going to have an image pick up unit and then it was going to communicate with a server say i'm going to apply it there are no further questions your honor thank you thank you saying what you should do is have customized filtering at the i s p that was found to pass step two that was the inventive concept as i was something of you a different way of using old technology here we have actually