procedures in case of emergency there are two ways out of this room one is these two doors here and the other is the way you came in from the front and if there's an emergency we'll all meet in the south parking lot so  we'll make sure that everyone got out safely in the south parking lot if there is an emergency number two i did additions deletions or changes in the order of agenda items anybody want to change a thing around number three comments ten residential units a multi faceted one seventeen thousand and seventy six square feet commercial space all this reading and they want it continued ok a twenty thousand square foot movie theater building one thousand seats a twenty two thousand five hundred square foot restaurant medical office is thirty five hundred square foot restaurant with drive through service and a bank with drive through service human consists of constructing a four story forty seven unit residential foot footprint the structure will have kind of two rooms at the back which would be a kitchen and bathroom type thing that be relatively small and in the front would be a living space with a convertible to sleeping space sort of a trendy thing to do these days is to build a tiny house and this was what they call ground bound rather than being on wheels so be up to sewer and water and utilities there'd be a little water be more like a regular house speaker wire rather than like a shotgun once on trailer question plan on using is a rental i know actually my girlfriend's in the process of selling her house and this is really her project but it's on my property so i can show up i will have much say other than the size of work goes but yeah so that's that's the plan for that for the short term but a little too messy for her to want to move into my space so exactly and if you state your name please if you raise your right hand you probably tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but truth truth and i do thank you very much and please describe the project we are temporarily relocating as is there anything they can do now color was size was too to meet the expectations of what they might have or is it would you change it drastically between now and when you finally  on the colors and the materials on the existing permit are pretty restrictive so and it looks like this is the staff is happy so you meet all of the criteria the actual applicant is not you is it that's how it's written i the way the application filled out your question comes from the board everything going well very well ok lots of pounding and noise and constructions and the signs are completely different joint meeting with the some cold look like an overlay but spellchecker will never catch that right it is the first day of spring we do need as much cold as possible anyone else have any corrections or modifications proposed minutes looks like a talked a lot the next meeting right so that's the only catch there is we would ask the board to officially sort of invoke it at the hearing technical review is invoked to wants it for the standard is to be visually compatible and we can have a technical review of that or it could be a technical review of a noise study showing that you know it can't be heard above fifty feet away or whatever the standard is for that when so the process for technical review is the board first moves to invoke it the staff would then select an expert we look for somebody who doesn't have a conflict of interest then we run by the applicant who the consulting is to confirm no conflict of interest then we get an estimate from the expert and collect the from the applicant and authorize the technical review to proceed the technical review or typically present a written document for the boards review the reviewer can also come before the board and present if it seems to be more of a qualitative thing  think we'll hear more inclined to have them present if it's purely quantitative sometimes written documents are fine so the things that technical review are done for you know  compliant or does this layout address the com plan calls it tends to be a little softer and sometimes the product of that can be an alternative design not just a technical review but also alternative suggestions similarly architectural or if you there's all the design standards about you know for arriving between the homes you could get something somewhat qualitative from that traffic or street design  one place we could have invoked technical review lately for street design would be in bryan their brain development where we did the roads that had no sidewalks for safety reasons noise is fairly qui evaluate an obligation for addition to a home that doesn't comply with the current requirements for its impact on views and sunlight to adjacent properties and a shuttle study could be something that could be invo like more expertise you know if there's a gap in somebody's know around the board of the lighting expert and we need a review of lighting impacts something like that i don't know if other people have things that they've thought about and want to view and more comfortable with or anyone on the board doesn't have to be you know just the chair that suggests that anyone on the board can suggest it s a question i assume that when you're talking about legal review you're talking about review of a legal criteria rather than getting a lawyer to perform a review that the applicant pays for and that would seem to me to have some conflict of technical review of the attorney does advise this board but we don't charge the applicant for advice that the board asked the city attorney for cities are right but we do many projects been does have to pay for his time reviewing their documents they draft them their attorney draft them are trying to mix comments and suggestions for changes so that's a legal review that the board doesn't get involved in but it is technically legal review we don't have to invoke a technical review for that to occur enough for that no not unless it's part of a review process or you don't want to move forward on a ford ability plan unless you have some technical review by the city attorney for instance on the project  that also have to be reviewed that to me sounds a little different than the kind of technical review we're talking about with the other things because you know i can imagine with the project that impacts weapons the city might want to get a wetlands consultant that the applicant pays for to essentially render an independent opinion excuse me but that's now we're talking about the legal review we're having the city attorney act in the interests of the city and in some cases the applicant  and if and if a traffic study costs a thousand dollars versus thirty thousand dollars it would have a difference in my head as to whether we would invoke every hand i mean i because i'm a certain sort of in the business i have an idea what some of these things cost but i don't have a you know things change i don't have a clear idea i certainly have no idea you know if somebody wanted to do an architectural review that that's to me that's almost a simple error almost as has vague as as an archaeological review which can get to be huge amounts of money for and and potentially with no results  back to the board and say new book technical review is going to cost x dollars is way too much and then you guys can decide to go with it or change your mind about it to save his own image do we make that clear to them we don't because it's never happened before o about orders and doesn't smoke from that so we did hire somebody to come and provide information about what that would be like so there wasn't a review of a study that was done you know that's  where i just feel i guess my point is that that i'm not i'm not enough of an expert to feel comfortable on what we're approving when we do this so was our research in vocation and it prompted me to explain how a court has seen the non compliant site condition in fact our city attorney has said that a noncompliance like condition is not grandfathered in our regulations only grandfather uses in structures the not so conditions so then it was frank ask whether this was a violation fifteen twenty five was a violation and other complication to that seawards not complaints like conditions or in violation not sanctioned by a c e o in the past and therefore gives the board of authority to make wholesale changes to their coverage to bring them into compliance so most properties have a violations of there's only a few instances where this might apply so it's complicated but so i'm afraid was thinking that maybe we would see all these non complying issues as violations needed to enforce so if we were to create a new regulation that caused a bunch of properties to become all of a sudden no longer provable what would be the status of those properties looked at some of the city  grandfathering it protects an applicant or a permit holder from changes in the law that occur after they've acquired their rights the rights of the state judge might supply the answer very good other other other business