acceptance resignation of glaucon for the planning board appointed john rose's regular number term and in five one fourteen will be a joint meeting seven time we have a public hearing transfer of all cal more street we have a sign there that has a propensity to get knocked down about every two weeks and the last time it got knocked out we decided to put the rock there for a few days until we could get something that was let's say  doing substantial amount of asphalt paving on different streets within the town i just want to let everybody know that it's it's it's good near the end but the problem is that we didn't get a chapter nineteen money until really late this the street and i might tell you that the the manganese going into the plant was a level of point to two parts per million and coming out after filtration was point and the reason i'm here tonight is to support to splitsville and i'm going to tell you why when my children were younger and we wanted to have some family fun specially or following we had to leave town we had to travel to norway to franklin that of our oh and if you really want to extend it we when it's virus will fade now this was you know it created a lot of trouble leaving town when we had our children's birthday parties at bowling alley same thing we had to leave town now flash forward when my sons were much older bowling out bowling became the weekend choice of activity in since there was really nothing to do for the my children in the thirteen to fifteen year old age bracket we had to go to north attleboro well while myself and other parents had liked the idea that sons had someplace to go there was the inconvenience again of travelling to north attleboro late in the evening to go and pick them up what so now the possibility of splitsville com patriots place that inconvenience can be eliminated in the youth teens will have been a pretty age appropriate recreation facility to go to within their own town i also believe that splitsville will be a nice way to round out the family experience at patriots place at the moment families can enjoy eating shopping seeing a movie seeing the stadium and skating within the winter months with a bowling alley families will have another local venue in which they can enjoy a quality family time and this is why and oaks ten austin lane when i heard that splitsville might be coming to pitch a place i thought it was great because i'm a bowler also a grandmother i love the idea that it's multi generational i love the idea also that it's go upscale and friends of mine have been to a downtown disney and they absolutely loved it the third reason why i thought it was great is that the revenue that it will bring in so in summary i think it's a great idea  of different categories different restaurants different kinds of things to do and this is something that adults can do in the evening for the kids going to the days and it's just a perfect fit for what we have  reporter last week or this week talking about compared to how the moon in boston which is definitely not with us that he was like i don't think there would be someone that i was that was really family oriented i think the the boss and i mean i'm guessing close to a million people probably come through they're going to the exact number of covers but to see two or three instances they get brought up in the negative life is just according considering that accuracy rate of how you know but you know things that you have to do the family often take precedence over even the desire to volunteer for the good things the town so we want to say don't play for the time she served and we appreciate the fact that she gave this kind of that she did and that also opens the door for us to ask you to join the point with us john rhodes who's been our associate member for a number of years he's been outstanding for us he's an engineer and he start off obviously thanking shannon for i know she's been a lot of time in the board in going through the ordeal of running and going through the election process and service so we certainly want to thank her john i've had the opportunity to see what meeting and the fact that you're a civil engineer and you bring all that background to the ground in the wetlands it's almost like having a paid consultant on staff and he carries himself exceptionally on the board with professionalism so i'm very grateful for the time that you've spent and as i understand this you'll be a winner after we vote if your if it's approved you'll be appointed until action of two thousand and fourteen right so i look forward to that thank you know i echo jim sentiments i've been to a number plane board meetings and john was always there he served very well as an alternate you know always being at the meetings and i think it's a perfect choice to fill in for shannon who will be missed thank you all right shannon will be missed and i agree i think john having seen john at the planning board meetings and the contributions that you've made all along i think you're a great addition to the board with great regret that i tendered my resignation as a member of the possible planning board i'll be moving out of foxborough on november first two thousand and thirteen i will no longer be able to hold this position i resignation is affective immediately i would be remiss if i did not state the great admiration i my fellow planning board members in the entire community bobbie leaving this town i cannot leave behind the openness and welcoming spirit that made this the community the best choice for a family never nearly four years ago i wish you the planning board in the  future sincerely shannon mclaughlin i like to make a motion that we except the resignation of sam go off one of the greatest gratitude second discussion alls in favor  discreet you would have this discussion would you bring back forward a recommendation from your board rather than us just picking somebody from your board and we haven't but you could you do that we could i mean that gives us some insight on first who did the purpose of the design review committee is to look at the architecture of any building to propose water vacations that are proposed in that area to ensure that the architecture i that with the fencing and the signage in the facade the library anything that's around that downtown that's important board and i think it's worth discussing once they come back with a recommendation is this a position that someone would have to fill hearing on tuesday october twenty ninth two thousand and thirteen at seven ten p m in the foxboro high school media center one twenty saw street foxboro massachusetts one application for transfer of license change of location in pledge of license and pledge of young people in the in the audience ok great thank you for the record brian early peter place general manager when i was last here in front of the board back in august with an update on of things going on pitcher place mostly having to do with my more formal presentation i made back in march we discussed the concept of a bowling bowling lanes come into picture place  and you know we i think the the the planning board had been been told this was something we were thinking about but it really goes back three years of due diligence and research that place is done in the marketplace with both with with research of our own patrons coming to pay for plays but also through working with consultants and knowing that and hearing very loudly that a boeing concept was something that was of great demand to the marketplace certainly to the communities around pitcher place we went and wanted to find the right fit for that we've seen other models both in this market you know in closer to boston as well as other parts of the country and it was through a lot of work in diligence that we found what we believe to be the best in class in the country in terms of boeing concept splitsvill lanes is operating in a number of states including texas virginia substantially in florida and the if any was had the chance to see their operation at downtown disney it is it is phenomenal and it orlando it proved to us that these were the these were the the team that we wanted to be a page a place we you know boldly say we feel that page replaces is similar to disney in terms of its destination in terms of of  bringing families to the area from from many many communities to foxborough and and we feel this is such a difference maker as we move into now the you know the sixth plus year of the operate place you know we talked  lot it at what was coming next and what we're going to be doing next in and certainly as the market has dictated we had to continue to make adjustments and find what will work best picture place we've done a good job with a lot of the new concepts brought in in this certainly is the next big new concept that we feel is the right fit in the best opportunity for pay to place so tonight with me to my left is paul holy and to his the plans and the concept also passed out to you which you may have already letter of support that we received from state representative barrows and senator state senator jim temple t supporting this application and speaking i would suggest to the need for a concept like this to help vitalize the economic activity in the immediate area i also passed what we prepared is the  applicant's statement of substantial public need as it relates to this proposal and obviously your review under the statute of our application along those lines i suggest to you that you have a you have an ideal applicant here before you with respect to the statutory requirements for the public need for your approval as well as the character and fitness of the operator i indicated  this dynamic uses something that is completely distinct and different and unique to the area that being a bowling concept with an ancillary entertainment capability to it what the team is proposing to do is to be a part of patriot place in this space that is presently vacant to vitalize the space with again a use that is as you heard from members of the community in great demand is supported by elected officials and as brian has indicated is also supported by numerous consumers who took the time to provide their input about what they'd like to see that being the local partner here has extensive experience as a responsible operator and licensee here in the commonwealth he's worked very closely recently with jim staples who's with us  from j b s professional services mr staples is a former a b c c senior investigator and someone who has worked with a lot of licensees and law enforcement in the area mr holy and this team take their responsibilities very seriously they have taken the time to be very familiar with your rules and regulations as well as those of the state and again i would suggest to you that you have an ideal team so at this state of florida for over twenty years back in two thousand to two thousand and three we have we thought you were an idea was that there's a lot of people but low balling given always love bowling alleys and we thought of you to go restaurant  a very broad diverse menu and even a disease which i i think we don't have access of those numbers is probably one of the top two or three performing bowing concepts in the country or still doing in excess of forty percent food out of the venues kind of all jump in a little bit more going to been partners for a long time the joke is he's the brain and i'm the heart and together we make a human right so we usually interrupt each other more than i thought of mickey and minnie and if you are a tough crowd but i want to make sure that you guys really understand the  commitment and we have to foxboro in a patriot place we're in tampa we're in south miami everybody thinks south miami they think south beach we're in south miami which is a very small town in the middle of miami  fredericksburg virginia very small town in the middle of her genya at fairview texas which is out in north dallas so when we go into a community we really get involved in that community and it was funny walking in here imus felt like i was at home for two things obviously from my accent i'm not from around here but born in north carolina live in florida now but i'm from a very small town of thirty five hundred what i loved about doing my research about fox para was when i went on the website for the fox for high school that video that the high schoolers did that was unbelievable i was blown away how cool that was so as we're thinking about different things we can do within the community you know i kind of got excited that they said the media center was going to be where our board was going to be  talked about with disney disney picked us over a lot of different polling operators and they did for you know four or five real distinct reasons one we are great operators we i've got three kids to paul's got three we do this to put  kids through college so this is not a passing fancy this is our life this is our career and we treat it like that we're great operators we're very passionate about our business and we get involved in the community and disney saw that from the standpoint that we were going to take it from an entrepreneurial spirit and not be some big corporation that was going to come in you know and run it by the even doubt that we're really going to be the heart and soul of it and it's been it's been interesting to see a lot of similarities in foxborough that we have in some of our other towns and the type of events that we've done with the charities with the schools with wind ca it's i don't know just like i said this you can tell when i go into an area kind of feels good and this is that feeling that i have when i come here halt business in downtown boston but i felt the booty balling business was a business that was well rounded it was it was daytime kids parties it was monday tuesday wednesday nights kind of events corporate events and you could do a much better well rounded business than than i do quite candidly in my business of boston that's why i really want to do a concept like this and so i talk to the patriots probably starting two years ago now about this and when we when we need to find a partner we you know we can't this is not something you  gentlemen here and that's where the discussion started that's how the connection happened so it was me beginning as a local massachusetts operator i've been in this bar restaurant business for ten years i know that the newspaper story they're here for a very familiar with at this point and i've been doing this for a long time i've i've had two different licenses in the state i've been held the license for ten years i've had over a million people go through my stablish once in that period of time and i have had a couple issues but i've dealt with them all proactively and one of the first issue in a way was which was an underage i was there that day and one thing i said in reading the regulation of this all the bold type no absentee managers and i'm not one i'm on site all the time using the same i d s so brooke my point being i then reached out to my literary sales and i think i'm doing a good job on this business i've had a long track with no issues but now i have one issue i need to deal with proactively so please put me in touch with the best liquor consultant you have using fake i d s again and i said to jim i said listen you guys are may not see it out here but in boston with three hundred thousand college kids the onslaught of fake identifications is very real something that i deal with daily i dealt with the rest of our vehicles on it a lot and i said t jim how do i responded these things are coming quickly and jim said the best thing to do there's an idea scanning system out there because of its id detection so best id scanner market they're very expensive but they're the the best way you can respond to this and try to prevent this type of action so i want to about two of them to make sure that we have one at all times and so yes well i've had a couple issues over those ten years i think the track record is very strong i have had two full areas into my business this week i have boston police come out meet with them and tell the chief their views of me in their support of me as an operator in downtown boston and i firmly believe we could have put a manager a different record on this that had a clean record but i firmly believe that he would not been whoever that person would have been well not been have nearly am very proud of my my record and on this front and i was not very proud of that article i guess put them so this relationship started probably about a year ago we started this concert together and these guys are best in class what they do how component will be a couple nights a week they're just provides a form of entertainment that it's not the tail that wags the dog splitsville is the seventy five percent driver with this business is and i think you in this community getting a top notch top flight management team that has a local presence this is not all set up or is it don't have anyone locally just dropping a g m on here every night i live twenty minutes from here and they and and they take a real good amenity to this community that should provide jobs should my tax revenue should be done in a responsible manner thank you she did not speak to the financial aspects to you have you have put cation before you four and a half million dollar investment in the construction and speaking i guess finally more to the public need the impact of one hundred twenty five jobs which would focus on locally and tax revenue of seventy five to one hundred thousand dollar lanes in this property that really the only way they could go was with this way but you have you have dining beverage in here he's welcome center your manager down the center and we just create little pockets and most people never been if you're at th table you're literally almost at the pin you can see someone bowling towards you you just get different lines of sight and perspective which we think kind of helps you know break into break the ice cream that creates more natural socialization he does have a very up building whether it's you know bonding with family whether it's just you know people hanging out so this big block here is back house and kitchen you got a free and a liberal better which comes right up into the kitchen you get a quarter which will allow the delivery  here in the last year or so it's just a very visual concept we say visual is vital to communicate it if we could teleport you guys all to downtown disney or tampa or to ferry texas and walk in a building you know once you see it people get it  think you would all be a really good combination from the design perspective where it's kind of retro and hip together and it kind of marries the two just like we talk about you know use one of my friends in tampa who's an attorney he can go there was a wife and kids and have a blast of his daughter's birthday party he can go there with his law firm and have a corporate event business out and then he can go with his wife and two or three other couples to get one concept where you can go to same person three different times and have a good time it's hard to get that doesn't usually work easily you're very your concepts are very pigeonholed and we think between the food the bowl and in the entertainments what makes us so special and and you can see it through some of the other pictures i mean those lockers on the wall cushion on the welcome center that literally that picture right there is great because it shows you walk in you go dining you go to the welcome center you've got all the shoes back there and that's kind of the brain of the operation we have laying concierges it actually take your party to the lane with your shoes in a basket so you can put on your shoes right there we put your names in the in the computer for you it's really is kind of bowling first class and it's really it's even a downtown disney where they have all this magic all around them people are blown away like you know they're walking through the bowling alley with you know found some i with the shoes in a basket it gives you that special feeling they kind of just really takes it over the top and you know what mark i've always said is where they are to exceed your expectations every day every way and if we do that first of all you walk in you see the design you're like wow and then you go and you follow somebody taking you with your bowling shoes to the lane you know that type of material you're sitting on everything's custom their bodies like wow and then what really gets you is when the food comes because what we've always said is you come for the ball and you come back for the food people are blown away there will be people that will just walk in splitsville and eat even if they're not able or food so that's where as you can tell we're a very good amount of time been general manager of an operation in fredericksburg virginia which housed twelve theatres seventeen lanes with our combination business in fredericksburg for in seventy five one hundred thousand square foot building and then he's also in the here to offer whatever assistance that i can as to the this licensing matter which has a bunch of different layers to it and understandably it has become a little bit complicated very happy to be retain complex such as the gillette stadium and patriot place which presents special challenges to your board relative to alcohol licensing and well you've heard what is really just a part of transfer issue and the the upcoming alteration of premises frequence that's being made it's important to at this moment consider the you should by by way of either a voter and or a recommendation from your to the chair to incorporate those comments into this hearing since this hearing opened after those comments were made it's important for the matter  that it gets it gets noted in the record that that those comments are all incorporated in the context of these hearings ok so what you have before you is the request for a transfer this is not unusual in any municipality transfers happen when restaurant a maybe goes out of business or is bought or is somehow moved along that the process and there's a request that the license be  used or utilized in a different location for a different purpose your board as the law requires as is entirely capable of judging the merits of that request as area or another those are all relevant concerns when you talk about a transfer of a license to a new location i know that there's or there was a legit a lot of grant of several licenses to the patriot place those have all been used this is a transfer from an existing license that presently stands on the premises of the patriot  gillette stadium complex as i understand it it's a request from what we know colloquially as the practice fields in the dana farber to the to this proposed venue split it's simply because there is a shortage if you will of available licenses that's not the responsibility of your board to remedy and resolve that's a matter for the public to take up at a public town meeting and ultimately the legislature to determine the number of licenses that you have available there is a need for you at this point to simply consider the merits of this proposal as against the character of your community and that is for certain from all of the cases that i've read reviewed and provided to you in in the brief in the appendix of cases there is one thing there is for certain and that is that you are charged to listen to all of the  advice to you in that respect is to listen to all of the evidence and make a decision based on the evidence you've heard considerable testimony from members of the public as well as from on the applicant all of which you should consider in making your decision relative to the transfer and the transfer along sometime later in this in this meeting will have another consideration which is the alteration of permit which obviously is necessary to free up best interest of the community supported by the evidence that you have at this hearing will said thank you thank you sheeple are you here explain the work that they were doing in preparation of coming to our community i've known him for several years he's done trainings for the department for outlook a licensees of the community and i know of his work in the field for at least a decade certainly seen how the moon is a different experience coming from a fairly suburban quiet community to the wind as i say it was for me even before eight o'clock in the evening but it's very well managed which is i think we shall element if you have people waiting in line to get into a facility you want to have staff on duty which i observe to be very competent in interacting with the crowd in a positive fashion entering the facility i think i got a pass true documents so they make a real effort for the people entering the facility the music hall wow that was certainly the louder inside the facility of explain their inspection process it's very detail very to the point and that the operators can get written up for things they have no control over one example given for how the moon was someone's cell phone was stolen so a police report was made the business was written up for the deaf cause by another patron no they didn't receive a penalty per se because right away the operation had contacted the police when they were made aware of it they provided videotape of the interior to the system police with the investigation and those are the key things that boston looks at are they telling us about problems are they helping us resolve investigations and the detective sergeant that is in there frequently as our other boston bowling concept competitor as you well know they operate there of the dead chief said that they have not had any particular issues with the operation most of the problem for the department but we have to look more strategically right now we have details officers at a variety of locations on a trip place but we don't have a cohesive bunch  place in terms of accessibility for losers that are required to go up there in response to other incidents not just necessarily one of the workers stablish looks like the other incidents issued i'd be working with the management team here with the sultan's to make sure that it is probably right to reduce the risk of car from alcohol service  i think a group that exceeded my expectations on your presentation your management style in putting out a presentation to get that puts a lot of detail to a package that was somewhat opinion in so my what i said to just about everybody including you know state reps and people in the community was i was going to hold off on any common till i got the presentation because what i read in the paper  what i could find on the internet from going to splitsville and in florida or on the internet i just had more questions and you guys did a nice job on money answering them i thought the citizens input kind of some they're up a they can use a name because she said it but mary smith of known for a number of years has strong ties to the community as a as a parent as a teacher as somebody that works in the recreation and is involved in law enforcement through a family so someone like that is what i was looking to hear in i reached out to a lot of people and i heard very strongly that this is something that most people just thought of as a bowling alley and i think they were very excited about the bowling alley want to put into context with there's another component to it it was a little bit of hesitation but i think it's kind of a hybrid in some people have talked about this that it's different age groups during the day you bring in pedestrians in people that typically wouldn't go in there to fill up the space at night it's a different venue so of all different ages so it's something that i think would fit in here very nice and quite frankly i'm excited to see it again i do have some concerns about  the the liquor license and i'm sure we can get to that and i did reach out to pass a weapon that would dealing with the twelve look at licenses in that whole process years ago to get a better understanding of how many we have and what that process was and again we can talk about that in a little bit but i think overall i'm very excited for this concept as a you know as a parent and as friends i can see myself using it and i think it would fit very well into the concept that foxboro somewhat voted on this back in two thousand in two thousand and seven two thousand and seven eight that this area of room one because of the liquor licenses and another group that studied it it was an entertainment destination and i think this fits into what our goal was at that time with the with the craft from school i came in here kind of asking two questions of myself one i wanted to hear from attorney deluca part of those questions you haven't answer is you know we've got three licenses that were over the stadium one went to a japanese restaurant two remaining now one is going to go here so those questions i think we have to figure out on phase two so it's the chicken and the egg what comes first so if we put that aside the other questions i wanted answered i had not heard from people there who went up to florida and went into boston who's been dealing this with you know much longer than i have obviously and i did not hear any unexpected apprehension other than we have to services some with the police and fire and emergency so again we can talk about that but i probably spoke too long but i think my general comfort level is a lot better after hearing the presentation and on the videos and everything and i've seen the slits fill in and i am impressed with i am impressed with splitsville as a is a unique to likes bowling then you i am impressed with that however i'm really concerned about the introduction of the how at the moon concept because to me that seems like oil and water the splitsville the bowling it was from what i see are on the website it was come down have a real nice experience kick back enjoy it you know quiet you know have a good time and then i go on the howl at the moon website and it's totally different it's legit drinks for straw drinks jello shots it just seemed like it didn't really it doesn't really go with the family bowling venue that split ville is but is pushing and i noticed that you didn't really speak too much about how you spoke a lot about splitsville but really what you do it's almost like it's almost like if we grant one license we're actually licensing two separate concepts in one area and i'm really concerned about the how at the moment we have it if you look at the facts for reporter every week on the  police blotter what you get is is reports from we have another big venue how to me a how the moon type place called toby keith and we have we have constantly getting reports in the paper with about problems up there i don't think you'll have a problem with splitsville you know i really don't i think it's really is that i'm really really concerned about how with the mo in boston we have seven that came out of berkeley their salary for their health benefits their this is their careers and that's the core of what separates health from any other even you know any other entertainment source so we're just trying to do is  that this is just an enhanced version at a higher quality of entertainment than what's what folk really does and that's what good folks excited is you can combine our entertainment with their concept and so when we look at that that just that one of the the gentleman that came forward well last gentleman who spoke about he welcomed splitsville and then he kind of said but how i saw that how the moon was in the newspaper and that's not i mean he was almost saying what i was thinking that split feels nice it's craig bolling but how let them on i don't think so he said that he was one of the people who came in support of splitsville so i don't think it's just me and  twenty nine inches so you also have you have a change of elevation you've got a separation distance and you know you've got more than one hundred feet of storefront so again it'll be a it'll be a piece at some time but you can either choose to consume or move away from appeal to the wide demographic seventieth birthday party in their night our average our average age demographic is twenty five to forty five you know and it's because of the entertainment and so when you when you think about how the movie now maybe some people will think about all of that the the straws which we will be doing here but i think the majority of people think about how great the entertainment is you know to give you a color this is not you know you know a band we bring in these are employees they play three instruments minimum we're at any given time you know seven thousand songs on a stage from memory and they can play to three separate history with us i think these are very experienced high quality entertainers and i think that is the thing that's at the core of what howell is and so we tell somewhere that held the movie we i mean a quick in the on a friday and saturday night if you walk in your place in downtown boston a lot and started a lot of people coming from the suburbs and into our concept and within the greater boston area there's a lot of large brand recognition for help from a wide range of age demographic and so we want to be able to attract those people to patriot place we think the how to move show here is a key differentiator from what can be from legacy play so we want to take those people way from legacy place and bring them down here because we have a  if i just wanted to add that you know we we looked at it not just the house show in boston in terms of determining that this was something that we would be very happy with the picture place the the house shows across the country in fact  a new show it just opened up in philadelphia and it was featured on some and even the n b c network fox it was a fox network and when you see the caliber in the talent of these performers that's what we were looking for what whatever happens in frankly what happens in boston how what happens in in philadelphia or some of the other cities it but it was the entertainment piece and we're going to the other piece of entertainment that are part of the splitsville concept it's not just just how but it is  you know it he truly was part of this decision we we we made that we wanted the best obviously you know my track record of being very vigilant about the alcohol service we've gone through that from from last march to august i can continue to update that working closely with the chief on on some of the you know the protocols we've made in these guys know how challenging i'm going to be as their landlord for that and they  in proved to me what they can they can do it and i have done it in a both in all of their venues but the the the how a concept as paul said what attracted to us is the quality of entertainment which we feel is that is truly differentiator and discussions that if this license were to be approved that you would work it out work our plan of how you would absorb this amount of patrons in town if we in your staff and i'd like to know if you have any thoughts on that i'd like to know about that ahead of time rather than you know post decision oh you know certainly you know we have officers working details at different facilities due to the crowd size sometimes it's the  looking to fill the thirty fifth position of the department to make sure that we can expand our capability in any of it but i think it's a discussion that we were having a sunny command level structure so decisions about the use of resources on the site can be out of all formalized bases as opposed to ad hoc each individual folks combined in that one general area it varies between eight and twelve depending on the events that are taking place twelve thousand people no details and also just going on i'm asking do you know the number of potential people that you could be in all both the hotel and the theater the rule of law or their actual occupancy but upwards of forty five thousand people can be on the grounds at the various restaurants and entertainment a thank you thank you very much for a presentation very informative and really high class looking operation appreciate that couple of questions for you before i ask some questions so  ine having an entertainment venue two three nights a week so you're talking thursday friday saturday but we think you're going to be so what would your hours of operation be for the other nights we're opening for lunch every day so we're going up at eleven a every day and we've actually talked to a lot of the locals and you know above you know it's there right now we're probably still open to one because it's number of events out there that go on and we want to make sure accommodating people coming out of those events that we have to evaluate that make sense business without support that this venue there's a lot of staffing required between kitchen people host people that sort of thing so i'm opening up all of it every day and you know one and thirty fries are people to do there may be a chance that people who are at the hotel may actually find our venue more appealing than any of the other ones then there's a we maybe all stay open to the comedy that group but we have to see all that much or so would you have a different type bit of information about the staffing and the statistics that ed reported to us back in two thousand and six when we were working to develop the special legislation for the initial twelve liquor licenses and we had twenty six full time equivalence is that correct i was twenty seventy seven twenty seven ok right and  with the implementation of picher place that increased to thirty one officers shortly thereafter is that correct and thirty one officers is the level of staffing that you had in two thousand and two correct yes it is and the incidence both calls for service and officer initiated in two thousand and two was eleven thousand five hundred sixty six incidents that's from the records that's right that's right i did a search right so we fast forward two thousand and two with eleven thousand five hundred sixty six incidents thirty one f t s today we're at thirty four t so we have three more f t s and we're running except for one bump in two thousand and twelve it looks like we're running around eighteen thousand six hundred forty three incidents correct ok would you say that that's made your working for me that we do a lot of self initiated interaction that results officer activity i mean it's a combination yes we are busier there has been them so we have more general activity throughout the town as we become more of a economically developed community as opposed to a bedroom community far from primarily was with the collapse of the  of other big venues that come to town actually are what we do for special events we have one cause that particular event all the activity that takes place in that i just want to make sure the numbers were not you know skewed like i said and would with those other than just a second fall question to what relation of those two car break ins if you i know you don't have the number of top you had are they more related towards the town or are they more related towards that general area because i know we've had a great increase in break ins and and burglaries and cars and so do you have any idea that the cough report that a lot of decision making was based on might have been a different figure plus a bias but we do track within paper place being a separate geographic area because of the complexity of the business operations if i could just get real quick the chief is right the number that was provided in the march presentation which was coordinated with the g s information was eight hundred ninety five calls during two thousand and twelve and just two for the record the coffee ports from two thousand and six projected the number of calls related to pay to place to be twelve hundred calls per year which resulted in some of the funding that the craft group put together for public service which has been funded over one point four million in two thousand and seven two thousand and eight for public service safety as well as one hundred forty thousand dollars per year since two thousand and eight again towards the public safety issues related to essentially twelve hundred estimated calls there and and i can report as i did in august as of the end of september we're down sixty four percent on the number of calls and incidents related police related calls to patriot place nonevent day i think you want to be eighteen thousand less than a thousand is designated  place and seventeen thousand and basically all the geographics in the rest of the town corrective you know i did not do call for the current year that were rare but certainly the two thousand twelve figure of hundred of eighteen thousand i think is actually five percent ok thank you thank you so really i think one of the things that impressed me about this information is that there has been a dramatic increase in the number of calls since two thousand and two with that thirty one staffing requirement back then and so here we are with thirty four three t s dealing with the bulk of this impact happening town wide and so now we're about to have another venue about to open up which is great to hear about saga  with another occupancy level of about three hundred there and now we have another occupancy level of about one thousand nine hundred which is you know certainly as much if not maybe a little more and then toby keith's probably about the same told he's twelve so it's so it's like adding another toby keith's is about to happen to us if this were to be approved size venue this is the edition of a japanese steakhouse that's our primary restaurant functionality has less of people coming and what my staff sees quite frankly are people not just going to a particular restaurant or theater or showcase  but there they will make a subsequent trip to some other place on site whether a follow up a social gathering with some of the people they were with what they did or after a movie theater before a movie someplace on the site so that is happening and certainly the impact of the hotel you know you have customers that are there from across the world that are using not necessarily the hotel so would you you wouldn't expect there would be any decrease in the number of times that we're left with the north part of town uncovered by a car should there be a second incident that they're cool too well that could happen any time at any time you know whether it's a patriot place or any other place this value of the vote tells a lot of the one corridor traffic crashes on beach stree t any place that we have you have to shift your resources to where the call is you know if we have an incident as we did at one of the hotels the other day because we don't have the capacity that we can always leave the three cars in place in those districts and still have another crew can delay the call for service ok can i switch to the twenty four j report yes ok ed has provided us with information on the twenty four j report it would you explain i just have a note here it says that the twenty four j represents cases that concluded in a guilty finding for o u i for our town sec right correct i've had a conversation with again just for everyone's information the interesting fact that you pointed out was that foxboro at that rate of thirty eight cases in that year falls into the same category as springfield lo sixteen thousand eight sixty five so could you comment on well on that you know certainly we are a suburban community with no access to public transportation people many people are here we go for example a million just to see if that's just one stadium but i thought i was put us in a different position normal community outside without necessarily being correct can i ask a question about that and just understanding the this line of commentary  these are assumed to be thirty eight incidents that occurred at the last location named by the individual who was arrested during their court case during the trial correct i'm not sure if that's been i think that's the actually at the time of the rushdie that the judge is required to ask the defendant so after their case this is in the court room that this information comes out notice it's not part of the trial but it's not when they're arrested i believe i believe that it was when they arrested the regardless to what extent is that then followed up and proven as fact his eleven am till you know once again not knowing the area but my guess would probably be eleven to eleven eleven to twelve not sure with game days if that would change we actually do it at disney we actually do a breakfast bowl where we go out with like student youth groups during the during the summer time that we're working on so we don't know if on the weekends during the summertime up here when the kids are out of school we might actually do a breakfast ball where you come in and you get a combination of breakfast and bowling as a part of a y m c a group or you know some one of the recreational leagues around here we just we're not sure right now where levon am open every when they're together if a group comes in or you know pre teens twelve thirteen in their bowling and having dinner and it goes till nine ten eleven o'clock and they asked to leave put a bracelet on can they interact with everyone else i know if you let you know their competitor and that i'm the certain protocol after a certain hour how does that how do you envision that working here in foxboro with the youth trip transitioning into the united are over are you i was actually going to ask the same may see kids and families you know out as late as ten thirty eleven thirty at night and you know the day that week is less critical they are the kind of fans also at some point i mean we would open that policy at some point on a friday and saturday night at ten o'clock or at some and thirty i have been to schools fail in tampa we loved it now with the kids just my husband and i we do have friends that live in orlando who frequent often love the coffee place we have also been to how the moon i don't drink at all so alcohol was no reason why we were going there were strictly entertainment i was excited splitsville was coming just always looking for something else to do with the kids in the area and picture places building up  i do have a little boy with autism who loves to bowl and i was excited to hear that you're willing to be you know with a community maybe we can get something going that there's a time where people with children with a disability could come into special time they do have some movie theaters just because of things like the noise and stuff so it seems like you guys are very family goal orientated and willing to work with family on the other day some i don't want to speak was  mortimer i mean i was one of those people who read the article in the paper and it seemed like it just came out with big drinks alcohol the suspensions i've been a waitress in a bartender for twenty five years i've served lots of alcohol it just you know and i was glad to hear you explain what some of the suspensions were because for because of being in the business my husband worked in the business for a short time and his name was on a liquor license and he had a suspension and how that works isn't it's just in the paper sounded like everything fell on your shoulders which i know is that is the license holder you're the one that comes forward but it's about to hav responsible servers and i think when i've worked places where there are there have been people who have a service or miners place i work with now i've been there for fifteen years fifteen years we've never been caught serving somebody underage and i don't but when it does happen as long as you come forward and you say well what was the problem which is sound like i listen to how you you know you came forward in full how can we make it better so it's difficult because people come in with licenses from every state imaginable and you know in the hand you a license in booking you're looking in a book and from what you said you have equipment where you can tell if it is legit but i did you most people here could look at the book and look at  you say that looks legit so you know things happen when you serve millions of people over a ten year period to have three you know i guess on paper it sounded like you had these three suspensions serving millions and millions of people three suspensions isn't really a high number so i just kind of wanted to give my input of being a citizen in town of course i'm concerned about what happens in this town but i think if you have people who come in with a good plan listening to or larry sounds like he sounds kind of for this with some stipulations of getting people together and so anyhow i just kind of want to come in say that just for most people reading the paper that article sounded like you know this was just a hall and that's all we were getting here and if you work in the business and you work in a restaurant like i said i've been doing it for twenty five years sometimes things like this happen but i think if you're if you want to bring a great place like splitsville into town and great entertainment to draw the people in fact this you know i mean it's not this is all about money but it also is a lot of revenue for this town to have to have that type of sales happening up there and so on how that was just my kind a little input of that it's not just  you know people well we'll come here to to hear the entertainment and the fantastic music and you know like i said you know my husband drinks very little i don't forget all but we've been to both establishment and it wasn't about going to have something i know beverage is about enjoying we don't know the exact figures eight hundred twenty five thousand dollars per license fee that was granted to the town and i'm going to look for some guidance on these numbers so by transferring these two license one for another establishing this one i had a conversation with mr murphy today and he said maybe that's on the child will consider that there be obliged to do that whether or not he had the permission we are procedurally ok thank you and the reason why we had this i had this conversation with mr murphy earlier is because he has a concern is the sort of the board i think i can sense that some of this is about the public safety  you know the value that was attributed to the twelve licenses as it was voted on at the town meeting so i think that's something that you know before we would talk about any type of mitigation i think we we would need to go look back at that information to confirm it because to my recollection it was more like fourteen million dollars for twelve licenses and i hadn't spoken to either one of you but as i said at the beginning i wanted to get an understanding because of his twelve liquor licenses that we got from the legislation and there was an additional three that came back from s schaefer stadium that went to the city ok so that's fifteen and then there was a an additional one that the town transferred over for toby keith toby keith so if you go back and i wasn't at the board at the time so i went back to two thousand and eight and there was a hierarchy of needs cash value lists that was put together and basically you know going back to the mass lower liquor licenses you can't ask an applicant to pay money ten thousand and twenty fifty for a license because but you can look at the mitigation necessary for the impacts of liquor a stout so back in two thousand and eight and it was police ok five patrol officers one officer per share five shifts per week there's a value of five hundred eighty five thousand that was put on that so you get on this list that you put together fire department six hundred forty two thousand  transponders communicate communication capabilities cell holding area consulting fees transport vehicle sidewalk snow plowing a pump or c add all these up it comes out to one point four to eight million that's the number that you alluded to so one point four million for those to mitigate the impacts associated with twelve liquor licenses so and so article eighteen that was voted on at the town meeting there's a settlement schedule that the town voted to accept now it wasn't exactly one point four because it was something called total value of excess building permit fees so there was a discrepancy or from my understanding the disagreement on the building fees that the town charged on day one and then the patriots place was coming the building fees changed so the discrepancy in that way at all that stuff up it came out to two point eight two million so year one the patriots place on the settlement schedule from town meeting paid three hundred thousand on to before march two they paid nine sixty and then each year they paid one hundred forty thousand in this carries those twelve liquor licenses through year twelve ok starting in two thousand and eight so at year twelve that payment stops so i think that is that is what was voted on for the twelve now i'm not sure where one hundred twenty five thousand came but if you if you divide one point four million by twelve local licenses you come up with one hundred nineteen thousand so someone could someone can make the correlation that one liquor license for the mitigation spread out through chief or larry in the impacts needed was nine hundred nine hundred thousand that for that i'm not sure the number you just came up with fourteen million fourteen million probably had to do with there's another component to this of the sewer treatment plant in the billboards ok so you know there's there's no doubt in my mind that you know it and i think you hearing it that the ball the bullets bill i think people would be very very excited in the no apprehension it's the liquor  component to it that is probably the only reason that we're here tonight because the bowling is my right and you could go in so i think the discussion is is there an impact that has to be mitigated for that additional license being transferred over now there's no number associated with that chief larry indicated that you know that there is a plan in his head that he can pull things together move it around and i don't know what that value is but i that was the number suggested to me by the crown crack yesterday now the other component in again we'll talk about it the second part to this that liquor license is not new that liquor license is attached to an establishment that is already operating so that we're not taking it from the other side of town and dropping it in whatever mitigation is increased from that is probably a decrease from whatever issues might have been at the playing field so net is had a little mitigation and maybe recognize that there's less mitigation needed for the other part in quite honestly i haven't heard of any issues over at the playing fields of the  dana farber and they're doing a lot of charity events that in practices there's i don't know how many events that you have per year and i think that's going to be figured into as a subtraction in addition i don't know that that's where my head is right now heard north carolina florida and you calls before the board discussing for other or is there a reason why you wouldn't want to let us continue this for two weeks from tonight other than i know it's inconvenient saying but it so i can put on the record and make sure people understand is clear clearly the idea of mitigation was not for me it was brought up by the craft group so i don't know any way saying what do you think years you know more money you're asking for money i didn't ask for nothing this was an idea that was sent to me so i want to make that clear first specially to the media and the folks at home john not it's only just just so everyone knows we got this information some got on friday i got in from the west coast they got it over the weekend so there's a lot of information to digest so this is it's good to vet it and it was good good public hearing and the input from the chief was it was was great but thing is this the still  i need time to digest it all you know if you're looking for a vote tonight i'm not ready to do it j we're asking everybody how you feel i mean well they keep alluding to we've got a public hearing after that you can i suggest we open up that hearing you go through that process leave this open here with that other processes and then we can collectively make a decision after after that pretty good suggestion all right i feel like i would need more  time at this point at this point in time i think you know opening up the public hearing we have to do that i don't know that we'll be able to even get through that the c evening so with you know the time constraints we have here your yeah all right so i am one i'm ready to move forward on this but i can see that's not what's going to happen i think jim's definitely after hearing this next hearing could loose ends that i think it would be irresponsible to move forward without understanding the rest of the picture ok well in all fairness and i'm going to do this much gentlemen a mock up put out two weeks because i don't want  i like to take action on this tonight and we don't have a schedule mean for next week but i will schedule right now on your behalf of jazz something you consider in all fairness and try not to be king solomon here but two weeks is a lot i know your money invested in one week i was reluctant to do that but if the board can make it another meeting next week because we have four public hearings in two weeks  public hearing on tuesday october twenty ninth two thousand and thirteen seven forty p m of october high school media center one twenty south street foxboro massachusetts on application to all to the promise of an annual all alcohol beverage restaurant on this and obviously the names in the titles and all that for the record i'll take the lead on jim cobram the general and so on of n p s l l c with me is our special liquor counsel steve miller and our manager r final discussion and decision on that would be required to be in the positive before we could even  could even vote on this since there can't be two licenses on the same premises at the same time and we are seeking if if in fact the license is approved to go to splitsville with a seeking to take stadium to include the field house into the stadium license just briefly and jim can show you the area but there certainly will be a public safety concern because it already licensed premises it's already within the within the fenced in area the it would be the same security that currently exists there would be the same entrance he grants access and control the use is not changing it would be exactly as it is now it would without speaking for the transfer and i know you have other issues that would take a license that is utilized on a limited basis and allow it to be used on a on a more full basis but the our use of the stadium license by adding  maybe you don't want to approach it tonight and if you're going to continue our hearing to maybe you want to wait until then but i asked him to just do a brief overview for you of our security program which i think you're familiar with but i would like to put it on the record if and if as i said if you're going to continue the hearing and you want to wait because of the late hour we're happy to come back and do it but if you'd like it now we're happy to do it now get it all the next meeting that's now going to be next wednesday he thinking i don't mind here i don't mind with you don't mind what would like to do is start with this  the all of this specific alteration of premises doesn't change what we do today it just allows us to continue what we're doing today in terms of our operation of gillette stadium and  i do think it's important to note that gillette stadium when you look at this map it shows three distinct areas collectively on the site the first is the area highlighted in red area highlighted in red is our current gillette stadium has question about that what you're just pointing to right now i'm not certain that i've seen a change that included the playing fields in that minimally in two thousand and four and i could check my records to see if it was prior to that  and i may have something tonight i can look for so currently this is vigil at this red light is the gillette stadium liquor license footprint and as i indicated minimally dating back to two thousand for the practice fields the training camp leaders in the area behind the training camp bleachers have been included in the gillette stadium all alcoholic and life we came in front of the board  earlier this year and we took the license that covered our hospitality zone in lower practice field as you know in the board approved that transfer  steakhouse which knock on wood will be opening soon the area in green is the foxboro realty associates liquor license this is the current demarcation line for the for the farms for realty liquor license and this is the voices that we're proposing to transfer to splitsville and the purpose of our alteration of premises  is to take the existing gillette stadium footprint which does extend through the upper practice fields the training camp believe the area behind the training camp bleachers in this area in here and extend the outline of our perimeter fencing so this entire area and i was able to walk this area with jenny as well as former town  within perimeter fencing attached within the gillette stadium footprint so with the alteration of premises what you're going to have is an extension of the existing gillette stadium license to cover the dana farber field house and a lower practice field all within perimeter fencing i am the manager as you know the manager of record for the liquor license without looking at what the liquor licenses are and when i say that we have a unified command structure so the same policies and procedures that we apply to the gillette stadium with a license are identical to the policies that we apply to the far for realty associates license and were identical to the license that we had before we transfer it to sega and when i say that it's unified it's one alcohol manager it's one director of food and beverage david wheeler it's one chief of security mark briggs it's one management team and the people who we have working in those areas you know the servers and the security personnel they're interchangeable parts for us that we can have a server that is working the bar in the club one day they could be a suite attendant the next and they could be working in the dana farber field house on a different day but each of those people go through the same team training each of those people fall the same process they each fall the same leadership and that unified team gives you one consistent application if you do approve the alteration premises for gillette stadium it's not like i said it's not changing what we do it is it's doing it under one license we're not adding more events we're not adding more  people you know we're not we're not negatively impacting neighbors in a butters these are things that we do so a couple of the highlights and then i wanted to share with you our summary of policies and procedures the things that we do to make sure that where we are doing the safe service of alcohol  we also when i talk about uniform control it also involves a consistent application of the town of foxborough liquor a liquor regulations you know i had the pleasure of working with a select woman brew and chief o'leary on the new regulations that were approved about a year and a half ago but those regulations are uniform uniformly applied by the same personnel for each of those li goal is to strive to be always on the same page with chief o'leary so that we're providing the highest vet safety value in terms what we do so that we have no underage drinkers that we're not over serving that we're following all the ten that a good practitioner of alcohol service would and with that what i'd like to do is i'd like to hand out a copy of our policies procedures and walk through them for a moment these i would like to say on behalf of myself that we have a patriot game on sunday i know everyone focuses on what goes on on the field and we ride the wave of emotions when the patriots win but for me a successful day gillette stadium is two things one is proper service of alcohol every transaction every time and equally as important is equally important to me is that people come safely and they go home safely that's my that's my game day and regardless of what happens on the field if we execute that i feel that we've done our  job as well as i come in each day that's my my first and foremost priority which is why i talk to cipro larry which is why i talk to ted and stuart which is why we have the a b c see down voluntarily in involuntarily because we want to do proper service of alcohol every time so that people can come down enjoy and attainment be safe and get home so our statement which i'll let you read focuses on that the first thing in our policies and procedures is monitoring the foxboro police the massachusetts state police and our stadium staff are positioned throughout the stadium throughout the gates and throughout the parking lot to monitor alcohol meeting before every event we have a jewish dating well it's a revolution game play you mass game a concert and sail across an n f l football game and we meet with all the public safety agencies includes foxborough fire department chief hatfield includes chief o'leary lieutenant steward at times other partners who are assisting the chief and myself and others in the implementation of public safety and those briefings are important to us because it helps us align our mission with respect to alcohol service for each and every event secondly team training you know that's that's our standard of training it's a nationally recognized training program as i believe the board's aware full we're proud of as an organization is that t team coalition ranks n f l teams on how well they do at team training and the number of staff that they trained in for each of the last nine years in the honor so the m l s came in on the heels of the n f l and started awarding it several years ago and every year they were awarded to an n f l team and i'm sorry an m l s team we've gotten the award in terms of our sales policies you know it's a two drink limit but i think the important thing to know is that we stop the service of alcohol in the stadium fifteen minutes no later than fifteen minutes into the third quarter but ultimately on the watch when we say shut off the service of alcohol and i believe as chief o'leary would attest to when he says to shut off our call at two twenty three alcohol is shut off at two twenty three and it's not one person go location to location to location so it takes fifteen minutes to do it it's a team of people responding immediately at that time to shut off or taps designated driver program it's one of the things i'm more proud of  in terms of our our responsibility for safe service about the hall in conjunction with team team coalition in the be here campaign and if you don't know much about the be here campaign i encourage you to go to their website it's an incredibly sad story but i've had the wonderful opportunity to get to know the elliott family who lost their son to a drunk driver and they've become partners of ours not only for jhalak stadium not only for patriot place but we've introduced them to north fork district attorney morsi and his office and they're now partnering with the hero campaign we've introduced in the chief ted mahoney and they're partnering with them it's a it's a wonderful organization before what it does for us it gives meaning behind our designated driver program and in terms of what we've done for the fourth year in a row we're going to lead the n f l in the number of designated pledges and to put it in context the year we set our personal goal which was two thousand and eleven we signed up twenty three thousand five hundred eighty people to be designated drivers at ten patriot games and our next closest competitor it was the baltimore ravens who are over eight thousand pledges less than us so each of the last four years we've led the league in that and i am proud to say through sunday we continue to lead the league and expect to lead the league at the end of the year although i do say the elliotts that i would like someone i would like to set a personal record for gillette stadium but i'd like some other n f l team to beat me because that means someone else is getting home safe and other venues are being as safe as we  are management by walking around that's what we call it but i think the important note on management by walking around is that we as a responsible server of alcohol have separate supervisors that look for different things so we have separate supervisors that focus our concessions locations we have separate supervisors that focus on our portable location you know the beer carts and we have separate supervisors that focus on the harker's because they're really kind of three distinct operations but every one of our supervisors is team trained and we and we narrowly focused them so that they're not spread too thin you know so our supervisors that do concession stands typically do two concession stands and they're always right next to each other gillette stadium has alcohol free sections they're very well received we also serve nonalcoholic beer as well as all other non alcoholic beverages i talked about communication with  stewart that's ongoing that's consistent it's regular you know i think if i don't see cheaper larry twice a week from the middle of may to the end of december i'd be surprised and this weekend chief  here i'm seeing it quite a bit we've got three events two on saturday and one on sunday i heard a commentary earlier about advanced idea checker machines   by the machine and that machine will say whether it's valid or not and both cheaper larry in the a b c see have told us that is the that is the best machine on the market and that you know that it is it close to foolproof as anything so if someone who looks young comes to us we send them there they get their id if it's valid and the person checking it is not someone involved in the service of alcohol so you may said they have they have skin in the game they don't it's a separate department it's our security department under mark briggs that conducts that check and if if the idea is valid they get a separate wristband which our servers know is valid so when they come back and say here's m someone thought i was too young i've had it checked we've got a wristband to prove it ticket revocations we consistently after every event any objection arrest by chief or larry protective custody by chief or larry arrest or protective custody by the mast a police comes through my office and we review them because people who misbehave in our stadium whether it's alcohol related or  not are treated quite harshly to be honest with you because we don't want that element in our stadium or coming back and is cheaper we will also attest if anyone is placed in protective custody or anyone is a rested they would see the letter disinvite  that says they can't come back to july at stadium for any event until they complete how the whole course it's and that's an online nationally accredited course and then we still have the discretion on whether we allow them to come back or  not we maintain two thousand and thirteen i did checking guys in multiple locations throughout the buildings all of our vending rooms main bars guest services but it's because we want our service and we train our services to go and look at them  before every event it terms of our policies and procedures documents the one that i'd like to highlight is that before the service of alcohol every server at gillette stadium signs signs a form that says they agree to not only all the rules and regulations which are the laws of the commonwealth in the regulations of the town of foxborough but they also sign off on our policies so we have a policy that is even tougher than what the town does they have to sign off on it so we are reinforcing to all our service yes their team trained yes their supervisor yes they're watched but we're asking them each and every time that they're going to serve alcohol to sign off on the form they do it every game so if someone's going to work their game at noon you know we have one announced visit every year where they come out there walk around they review our procedures they speak with our staff they critique our operations but we also have unannounced visits as you would suspect and you like  o'leary chief investigator ted mahoney district attorney morsi the hero campaign all coming to patriot place on november eleventh to launch the district attorney's awareness campaign for the holidays which is observed over serve you know so in some our goal and our priority between myself david will and mark praises the leadership team of gillette stadium for our goal is the proper service call every time someone comes to our venue at every transaction at every game and with respect to the alteration of premises it's not changing what we do it's not adding more people it's not adding more people to the mix it's just a continuance of what we're currently doing by expanding the gillette stadium license to cover the dana farber field house in the low practice field so that's that's my summary of policies and procedures and you know i walk him any questions you may have with respect to either the documents we've shown or our policies and procedures  currently part of the stadium footprint the there's not a significant number of events out there but from time to time in conjunction with things on the side of the we did routinely serve alcohol at our training camp our open training camp practices so so it has been that area has been used more hospitality based and then several years ago we used it for every day of training camp and you know we decided to do away with that practice for why was it necessary to have a separate license for the field house when it was built and why didn't you try to enjoin it to the property at that point honestly from my percent from my perspective when i became the liquor licen manager in two thousand and thirteen it was already in place and i never and i never thought to join the two so you know all three of those all three of those liquor licenses date prior to gillette stadium the reason i ask  sure that little license was granted with its limited use in mind and for that little lesson starts to be you know used you call it underutilized and it probably is but to have that be transferred to a place that's going to be seven days a week throughout the year it's  before the town and asked for a license to be granted for that location when it was a when you knew when you knew that it wasn't going to have that many all that much activity i think if you look at the history of that license that license is one of the license that has been involved at the stadium since it was sullivan stadium has been a license there and not not a new license granted by the town for that area that was a license that might have even gone back to the things to cover if you want to continue with this resume you need that we have to do action tonight is there any pressing on their growing application acceptance i mean  with all of those that were notified regarding a hearing that's scheduled in november november twelfth i think this was an opportunity for the principals to get together maybe we can come to some agreed resolutions to make your hearing on the twelfth go that much easier right so you know if you know these matters take priority it's really your call these matters take priority well well certainly deal with these  and then put you know put in the pipeline if you will the the additional matters to be heard at some later time what time you scheduled for two that well that was a meeting that we had scheduled for six thirty in our interest we had just voted to go over an hour or two to meet with each of those those that each of those applicants that were being cited there was four i think total it may not take that long ultimately we want to approve the splitsville license if there's not available and how do we so it would seem like this one it would have to come first from the logistics correct yeah my recommendation would be to to continue this hearing as you  question is if we approve splitsville liquor license to grant them a license there's no license to grant them until this one is approved to transfer is that no no no no no they can move now and we just can't get it moving favor and then we will revisit the last motion you made for splitsville deliberation in the public would date is it on now is going to be tuesday nov from a number of private citizens chairs and members of different boards and committees and all of us have provided feedback to the edward j count center for public management we've been working with richard kobayashi the senior oh see it there and what we have in front of us now is a final draft profile for the town manager position so my time line standpoint if we can approve this tonight as the final draft with with put ever typos or if there are any fine tuning that you'd like to make we can then forward this to i can forward this to mr kobayashi tomorrow and the plan would be to begin advertising for the month of november closedown the application process at the end of november they would take approximately one week to review all of the applications and then they would bring forward a pool of applicants to the members of the search committee to begin their review process also included in this packet is a draft charge for that search committee but we could do that at a different  meeting so we don't have to do that tonight the charge really explains to the search committee what i'm sorry the screening committee what exactly the board expect in terms of them bringing forward candidates to us for final review so has everybody had a chance to go through this final draft and i know there's a typo we have to correct the spelling of the inventors and here environment will be considered and i struck out the word alternatively i begin the sentence with a capital p and professionally trained change manager to manage yours loral professionally trained and experienced managers of complex organizations right and then mr i struck out at the end again the through volunteer service will be considered i mean i not making that a requirement you know that skilled from rope line basically preposition a seller so i struck up a total compensation for the previous incumbent was in the mid one fifty s if they want to look that up again but i just everybody agrees