n and then lastly there is no prohibition in this agreement would prevent communities whose capital allocation is higher than minuteman is barely have four hundred member town students for the last twenty years they're never going to fill up six twenty eight we'll roll the dice and take it as we originally as mark said pushed for you walk out the door find your choice can't come back again dessie was not going to allow that and we frankly weren't going to get it regional agreement that sixteen towns would vote yes on if we insisted on that so this is our  you need to ask the question now rather than wait five minutes  clarification so just for a process perspective what we'll do is we'll have a bomb of often has a member the word committee has worked diligently on these you speak for five minutes or less on this topic and i'm hoping the floor to questions in addition to the kind of simple clarification question was quite helpful f it's going to be reconstituted i ask you what who in their right mind is today there was no minute then regional just who would suggest that the nine towns out of committed thank you bob jack and mark as you can tell this is a complicated topic i welcome folks to come up to them i can ask questions just in the process perspective what we'll do is again please focus on questions that seek to small users and i think that's extremely important but i've was understanding at the beginning that mark was saying that this is an agreement that cannot be the original agreement that was in effect back in hundred seventy cannot be altered now we're talking about it for a long set of changes to the agreement so my question is if the child's do agree on this document  to remain and which ones of voted to leave and will also know that whatever debt issuance takes place if in fact it's voted for it may well be under the new agreement and so we would  seen ministration have been in good faith that if in fact this is you know we spend a lot of time negotiating as you can well imagine it's a negotiation right it isn't like we couldn't get everything we wanted by the we got a lot of things that were and that the remaining towns will act on this within the next four weeks and and at that time we need to request that we will be prompt in submitting our any necessary information that's needed in order to assist the commissioner  favorable action on the regional agreement was approved unanimously with the school committee so i think within our community each of our communities they're all really advocates bill i'm not so sure if the sudbury selectman came agreement in their financial obligations but i'd like to understand that is there a real vision that we're really trying to get people behind the school so that it is approved that i'm not hearing that  that vision sort of thing brought forward as a as a sales pitch so to speak to the town meeting where even to the other communities you know about the value of what it is for the six hundred thirty five years the school that we're doing and that is should be sort of a compelling reason to help us move forward to manage or to help manage some of the psychological risk maybe in some of the other decision making because you feel so strongly about what it be too rigid about it but from my perspective this discussion isn't a referendum on the school because if we spend all our time talking about the school we're talking about the dead issue is a vote before we should be talking about the divisions vote so i think bob's comment is running it's fair for him for i think town meeting voters to say his belmont better off or worse off under a debt issuance vote with the new agreement or not and are we better off if that debt issuance vote fails those are fair things to think about now but but articulating the pluses and minuses of the new school i think is putting a little bit of the cart before the horse and it certainly tangential to the question at hand academic side but also talk about what came out of from the governor's state of the car while the dress last week in his commitment to commit about another eighty three million dollars to into occasional education workforce development  issuance and then someone decides to leave they're obligated to still pay their debt obligation can they restructure their obligations of there's an obligation that's been put up for twenty years or whatever i'm not refinanced as a by my big thing but so if we leave is there a mechanism for that school say you know we're obligated but you know can we have another ten years on that or you're going to be obligated for the life of the dead now if you if you elect not to send in the students you will your obligation will be your one percent share of th as if you send one so you'll have your one percent share and you'll have bags if you have one student the school running through the capital allocation  i'm soo bass for music three hundred member and i'm going to congratulate you all for a lot of good hard work on who sat through these meetings before and this is it gets better you know gets better every time  my overwhelming as i've thought about this my overwhelming question is does this new agreement to a nuff to give the met for its watertown them an incentive to join because i think that's really looking in the long run future that's what we need to have we need to have them as part of it they're using it they should be making policy for and they should be joining and i understood that their rates are going to be a little less than the membership rate and why is that to answer the second part of the question are about three thousand dollars and it's not something just if that's something that can be lobbied about i mean cannot be you know and that's not i'm afraid it is less because it has been the reason that it's not is good is it shouldn't be to guarantee the watertown will sign up is is this tuition break that the state gives that's it dessie will not current appropriation by the town of belmont before midnight here the annual procreation is eight hundred and something else in this current year it will be seven fifty in real numbers in the going forward here again i don't want to get too deep into the building project but under minute man's projections about the cost of the building the level of state reimbursement cost of the debt service current projections project on top of that so so it would be approximately one million correct currently we have twenty six students in minuteman has there been a projection or will there be a projection of  how many students there will be in three years five minute man has made a projection is part of those assumptions that every town's in the home it will grow eight percent per year for four years  which is about a thirty three percent growth in projections i frankly certainly have not done any projection i believe that the climbing enroll in men and men over the two years is not attributable to the physical condition of the building i don't think people in our towns in other member towns are saying i really would like to go get a technical education but i don't like that facility i personally believe what is driving the decline in a norm and it has been under four hundred four zero and twenty years is the changing economics and demographics in our town fewer parents believe that man man and a vocational technical education is the have the success for their kids now i believe that it is an important resource because for some years those traditional trains programs are really an opportunity in the area of the waterfall i also thing in a bad there's a lot biotechnology what better way to do than to the major that it icicle that you're not just telling the another community you're interested in this you've demonstrated your interest so i don't think minute being can be marketed is poorly managed i think there are two offsetting factors to that one is that twelve thousand dollars for belmont is all of the schools elementary middle and high school and high schools if we were to do that calculation in belmont high school level i believe it would be considerably higher than that twelve thousand in addition looking at haustus per student nationally  state formula of state aid and the chapter seven the the assumption is four point seven percent of the population is receiving specialist services we are all one for every two student the other factor is when you look  cost so is it less it for non member students or communities is the cost is the proposed structure going to be open greater or less than the the size of the facility that we're working with now it was designed for twelve under the minimum and member of communities costs were slightly lower setting nonmember students at below our average  when you start with a fixed size of the school we had the opportunity to resize the school to be more efficient and i believe that the more efficient size of the school with the less than six twenty there are no other schools that charge this couple facilities to be because their seats provision to charge it is in the event it's a contribution towards debt service before it had this be a approved building seventy percent or fifty percent and there's a so because it be some under one circumstance it seems an extremely unlikely that would ever happen whereas if there's discretion and flexibility in a range and so forth then it's into a much more like and people for determining cost allocation and i certainly concerned about  facility and you have this is the distance but i think whether or not like your old framework is correct i can't speak to that but i can say if it was that is no longer the case listen we're setting the governing rules for our member communities one of the governing rules is if you're not a member we're going to charge you but dessie says wait a second we  oversee all regional schools we don't care about minuteman alone we care about all regional schools and we don't care just about technical schools we care about all regional schools so we are not going to abdicate our power or from their perspective i would assume our responsibility to oversee and at age how really two school districts govern themselves you're going to have on legislation that applies to all regional school districts i have not participated directly but there have been discussions and questions of with our sixteen member sta legislators and from what i have been told this is not an issue that they think is going to set the legislature on fire and rise to be the to do list  there and in fact from where we said that i think most of belmont don't see that but we've actually heard at a recent school committee that some parents of watertown are trying to talk this time than it was last this time last year exactly what this offers and exactly what they pushed for what folks like dover and weston said is ok we understand that the capital allocation formula is what it is we understand why the components are there but on a per student basis our costs just got dramatically higher because that one percent fee that belmont allocates to twenty six students we allocate at the three stooges and their remedy if they want if that becomes prohibitive for their community their remedy is to vote to leave the district and if you're sending three kids to minutemen finding alternatives may not be a problem if you're sending thirty kids to meet him which is what our average it'll be about nine thousand pursuit eight thousand average about nine thousand for us for weston it'll be twenty four thousand for dover it'll be twenty four thousand so although the dollar amount in their budget is in huge what they're saying is if my per pupil cost goes up twenty four thousand per student under the capital allocation i want the option to say i think i'll just opt out of it you know can i just briefly just