we're not part of any minutes apology for the townie it's a subdivision we do not have city walks and we use telling files we have tell me police in the end we have three different fire unincorporated lake county and being in a township i mean in a subdivision my first question is does the subdivision have a homeowner's association we do so the homeowners association one suggestion for that is in lieu of waiting for government to come get you guys the homeowners structure than if you were in  structural to me it's structural we decide we have one thing or the other we can have our own charming little towns with our each with our own police chief and each with our own snowplow had each with our own fire department or we could have more efficient use of the resources and in a more sharing collective action that's our two choices ok in my mind you've got to look at the structure because monster spending their money pretty wisely even here in hammond with all the criticism he half the people of the street department that he used to have i mean that's a reasonably efficient way of doing things hyland griffith who's saying that hylander griffith their share of ill is using their money and efficiently ok they're doing the best they can with what they have but the structure is not set up for region wide issues to deal with including economic development and and including fire coverage so my question to you is what if let's just take snowplowing what if snow plowing were now handled like you handling the river in other words now there's this tax and it goes into the river and river fund and you guys have to look out for everybody who's water goes into the little cal it's an area wide thing you know you're consolidating some of the power and the decisions and the money and it's all really consolidated under you to be quite honest and what if you did that with a lot of things what if you did that with snowplow you said i did it snow on the snow on the ground everybody this is the snow plowing association right here and they're going to take care of it in all of lake county don't you do you think that that on average we would have better coverage you know because i mean i mean if you see snow plowing and use last week as the example that was the nominee i mean that was an emergency i mean do you manage to the worst case scenario yet you have to be prepared  river yeah you prepare for we prepare for what happens but you don't really stack everybody up for the once a year a van or the once every five year type of event you're ready for it and that's where you have in my opinion that cumulative plan as far as how we're going to it's emergency management and i think what you're leading towards is a bigger picture as it pertains to that how do you hold on a sec i mean how are you going to leave with regards to the you know the hammond and you know him and it's challenging because it's a big with a lot of old infrastructure to be able to compare that to even to munster i don't think is really fair i mean in hamin i mean they have to worry about the major thoroughfares and then have a plan and see how they you know transition through it but if we keep snowing i mean it's going to take a while for them to make it through those cycles ok but you bring up the word emergency management which of course you guys are big involved with the river and all that ok so the point being that if the seventeen different municipalities and really all they do honestly even the mare when he's here when the months are guys are here that's all they're talking about it's bernie's eamonn from highland whiting robert so you know they're just talking about their community right that's what they do day in and day out there like to do that is exactly what they're elected to do so when we have a problem like the snow plow bunts it and my creepy call a state of emergency for emergency on sunday and all the roads when it really wasn't there there's a huge communication problem because you wanna know why there's no structure and then no one even knows where the plows are coming from to do all these roads it is a complete mess when we have a problem around here and i see it and you know this i see it because i'm sitting here taken all the calls and the only real communication that that holds it all together is me talking on the radio and to me that's unacceptable completely unacceptable but it is a symptom of our structure and not our of our inner fusion not of people overspending within their communities they might be but this whether they were running efficiently or in almost not matter it is we have to accept what we get if we're going to keep our existing structure i mean it has i mean there's plenty of money it's just how it's getting utilized and who's utilizing it and then this again we've talked about in team police chiefs you know i mean we're talking about it i mean you know there's there's plenty of things that have been put together nobody wants to utilize because if you know what you're in the ear in the you know power structure why do you want to change it i mean the power structure i'm not going to change it e as far as roads go oh yeah the bully nice one i have a question car let me ask you this don't you think that when least send representatives and senators down to indianapolis they should be carrying our  message i'm the kind of guy who e mail that stuff off and so i mean do you think they carry that message or are they not looking at some of the things that need to be addressed that are you know sitting on your kitchen table or on my kitchen table yes or no i think  listen to yes so if i strip late that stop process here to lake county though as you know jim keeps point out that i'm a republican then if i'm a republican here in lake county then as a minority the ideas that i come up whether the logical or not are not going to be addressed just because i'm a republican they had true all right leave it there