final consideration in ordinance amending section two sixty four of the code of the city of schenectady regarding waterfront zoning historic review five thirty four kings road and technical corrections this was discussed in committee with objection on consent number two item number two for original consideration a resolution authorizing the city to enter into a contract with the new york state governors traffic safety committee department of motor vehicles for funding under the selective traffic enforcement program campaign this is also discussed in committee without objection on consent number three item number three resolution authorizing the city to enter into a contract with the county of schenectady to receive funding under the new york state special traffic options program again this was discussed in committee without objection on consent item number four item number four a resolution authorizing the city to enter into a contract with the new york state governors traffic safety committee department of motor vehicles to receive funding under the buckle up new york campaign again this is discussed in committee without objection on consent item number five item number five a resolution appointing victoria are her words to the schenectady civilian police review board again this was discussed in committee without objection on consent item number six item number six a resolution recognizing the efforts of the mount pleasant neighborhood association and the successes of the adopt a hydrant program i've been to but want to take this out of order all right and item number seven item number seven under contract and supply a resolution awarding a contract for snow and ice control plowing and hauling snow two thousand and twelve two thousand and in favor i all right then i will call to order the city council meeting for november twenty sixth two thousand and twelve have you please rise for the invocation by father dominic a so recognize the many gifts you have bestowed upon us and we are grateful you have brightened our lives with faith family and friends and call us to help the hungry the homeless the forgotten in our midst tonight we ask your favor upon these men and women who serve the people of schenectady instill in them right judgment wisdom and integrity as they work to raise the quality of life for all people we also pray for the men and women of the police and fire departments for their courage and dedication to safety and service may the lord shine his face upon us and bless us with his peace in your name we ok this is a resolution recognizing the efforts of the mt pleasant neighborhood association and the successes of the adopt a hybrid program and i think you've heard me mention how impressed i am with how hard mount pleasant is working several times during council business so i'm happy to do this and more of a ceremonial way so where as the mt pleasant neighborhood association under the leadership of mohamed half as has engaged in adopt a hydra program throughout the mt pleasant neighborhood of the city of schenectady and whereas this program has helped beautifier city through the painting of fire hydrants in the mount pleasant neighborhood and whereas in the neighborhood have joined the efforts of the mt pleasant neighborhood association by independently painting hydrants and whereas the movement has spread beyond the mt pleasant neighborhood and more hydrants in adjacent areas have been painted and where as  of october two thousand and twelve one hundred seventy two hydrants in the mount pleasant neighborhood of the city of schenectady have been painted now therefore be a resolve that the council of the city schenectady p i just want to say also that it goes beyond the fire hydrants being painted it goes to flower plant it goes to the plans for new signage it goes to a very well attended neighborhood association on a monthly basis it goes to a safety forum last month again very well attended with both the fire escapes me the police station and the sheriff's station so although we are recognizing your efforts in the hydrant we also recognize all the efforts that influx of this new energy that we've had from the leadership it's encouraged the whole neighborhood to get involved it's been so positive and we've even had john going around trimming the city's trees and mauling the lawns in the parks sharon has gone up and down crane street handing out brochures speaking to people on the street speaking to the business members putting in a sign saying welcome and they've met with every city official to show where to prove its need to be done but also with some positive answers the one thing i would like to say is i invite all of you to come over to crane street and come up because just briefly it has been known as the engine hill at the top of crane street and there was a factory there that produced the engines and the first steam engine made in iran was from schenectady albany and it was the very first in the nation so we do have some history up there and i'm glad to know about those right we have to public hearings tonight the first one is regarding amending the city code relative to the senior age age exemption i've had no one sign up for that public hearing so i'm going to declare that public hearing closed the second public hearing i'm a d budget and i've had four people sign up to speak to this the first is vicki her  hi everyone i'm vicki hurwitz a resident of the city is connected to i'm not really appear to speak about the budget deal as i think i did just that i noted in the paper week or so ago that downtown is sort of been declining due to the departure of m ess more i guess he moved to lebanon brut and i was just thinking that that is a really you know great event and that the d s i see perhaps could take that over i used to have a weaving studio up above center city and i really enjoyed good evening i'm richard into coal i'm the president of the board of directors of the downtown special assessment district the d s a de as well as the downtown schenectady improvement district the d s i c i'm here to ask you to support the idea that the budget the d s a d d s i see assessment and budget that you have before you it is important to know that this is session does not apply to small residential properties at all it mostly affects larger and commercial properties for the cane years that i have volunteered my service on the b s a c d s a d ward of directors this council has always been very supportive o our work and i thank you as a volunteer that's always very gratifying when your work finds approval a majority of our board or owners or operators of substantial businesses downtown excuse me our board supports this budget and assessment that as a whole our board essentially has approved an assessment that the board members themselves are going to pay the board we did that because our board members recognize the value added that is made to downtown as a whole and the work of the d s a d p s d s i say more important than the support of the board is the strong support we we enjoy from the whole of the downtown community including metroplex proctors and the chamber you know it's often said that people vote with their feet as in where do they go and what do they do every year in downtown the d s e d d s i see holds a major fund raising event to help support our work every year we draw about four hundred people to that event every one of those one hundred people own or operate a business or own property or work or otherwise in some way connected to downtown and they're all concerned about the of downtown all of those four hundred people obviously see the value of the work that the d s a the site she does because they show up they come to the fundraiser and they contribute that they see the value in what we do they support what we do i'm here to ask you beat you also supplanting you to support the d s a d d s i see and approve its assessment and budget those are my comments beyond that i also have a letter from rick collene who is the its chief operating officer of state n j development owns a substantial building at the corner state n j which he has asked me to deliver so i good evening everyone i'm jim selebi executive director of the downtown schenectady improvement corporation and you know everybody in this room but just for the for the benefit of those who might not know what we do we are the business improvement district for all intents and purposes for downtown  ectivity and we do provide supplemental services for the property owners and the businesses in the downtown district including supplemental sidewalk cleaning one of the things that i talked to a few people about that sometimes these things go on behind the scenes we all were down here for a wonderful wonderful because at holiday parade this past saturday evening or two saturdays ago and of course with that many people downtown and the aftermath was quite substantial there was a lot of garbage there was a lot of litter all over the street but that shows that people had a good time they patronize their businesses they brought in their families they spent time in downtown if you came to work on monday morning you would have had no idea anything had happened because the sidewalks were clean the streets were picked up our guys were out there working and cleaning and creating a clean  all great district to be and so these are the types of things that happen not always a press release not always the most exciting thing in the world but we do work closely to make sure we have a clean environment vibrant visually attractive district we do marketing and at the end of the meeting about talk about some of the great holiday programming that we have coming up but i do want to just stress with the council as i spoke to you about the committee meeting a few weeks ago that we worked extremely hard we're not for profit we work extremely hard to make sure that we are responsible that we look at every line item that we make sure that we budget responsibly because we know that a portion of our budget does come from our property owners in the downtown and we're well aware that every single day we've worked hard to find new revenue sources to avoid any kind of large increase if not necessary and we've been able to do that by creating good strong marketing pieces that can attract sponsorship and we've been able to increase our revenue was forty thousand dollars in that vein over the last three years so we're always looking for that the small assessment increase in the twenty third team budget is just an adjustment that's going to help us make sure that we're not scrambling in the years ahead and that we're continuing to look for new ways so again i just thank you for your past support for your current support and if anyone ever ever had any questions about anything that we do about our budget about our our our communications presented to the city council for monday november twenty sixth two thousand and twelve under official from the mayor list of appointments dated november twenty sixth two thousand and twelve from the commissioner of the office of general services  a letter recommending the award of the snow and ice control plowing and hauling snow two thousand and twelve two thousand and thirteen to carver construction company under general there are none under petitions there is a petition signed by forty one people asking the council not to approve the t s a the proposed budget ok thank you committee reports any committee reports council president city council mare last week's a letter said of agenda you had what was called the caper program and we've been the trust in the problem since when you guys did the five year plan back in two thousand and ten and one of them was on jobs and the affirmative action for both minorities and person with disabilities in the same results come back oh it's natural problem it's everyone else's problem except for the city the music a bit of community college but the housing development some of the restored new york grants that we've had center city and several other projects including the alcoa project all dealing with affirmative action and the lack of and also dealing with the jobs for a person with disabilities and basically the article basically blamed the state well you can't blame the state because you guys have signed contracts that you will comply with of action when you're distributing out those money so squarely the blame is right here and what we need to do is we need to address the issues and also every year when you're doing the second half of the community up block grant money you're supposed to call a public hearing and you're supposed to have a dialogue of exactly how you're going to do the r p and they are of picos out the first of the year in the last two years you've hold public hearings and then you've turned around and issued the r f p on the same day and you keep getting the same results every year no jobs and no affirmative action and nothing you have merit could you see doing different action but you also have a model as your persons with disabilities and serves also the court nater so there has to be some kind of court nation between those two offices and there is none as currently right now also today you have on the agenda item with the carver construction again another fault that was in the paper saying that while i already have my people why do i need to go why do i need to hire subcontractors in contracts that no one has been people well it's also true is that you have to have a diversified workforce within your own workforce and also this city has an apprenticeship program it's stronger than the state and why you're not enforcing their pretty shit program on the project there should be an apprenticeship program in place at on the against the car program so you know these are some of the things that need to be addressed and i'm hoping that you bill call for it on monday thank you thank you all right then let's go to approval of the legislative agenda and we under contract and supply a resolution awarding a contract for snow and ice control plowing and hauling so no two thousand and twelve two thousand and thirteen to carver construction would someone like to move that and first of all i'd like to make some comments regarding this particular contract when it came before us i asked some questions because there's been some historical information about this particular company in terms of their minority and women hiring so rather then just make a decision based on what was the historical information i requested information from the affirmative action office based on what had and approved since they had been getting contracts and i just also want to make it clear that i know this contract is fifty thousand but this particular company has been world contracts over a million dollars in this this current year so i asked her for mation very specific information in terms of if they're if they use a higher zero what is it currently and so i did not receive that information i received a lot of anecdotal information some of it secondhand saying that they had proven there was improvement but there is nothing very specific to say what their improvements were  if there were other parts of a contract that they hadn't gone for instance if it was about six weeks now when they and we said and when five inches of snow you need to come out and plow and they don't come out until there was twelve and then there would be some repercussions if they p the snow banks too high any other parts of the contract that were not held to there would be some consequences some discussion they would be called upon it and it appears that this is not just the current situation in terms of their hiring when we do other things in the city for instance of the community development block grants to the b g there is a very concise and strict monitoring project where people are asked what they're going to do and then they're gone the monitor  goes back and ask what did you do based on what you said you were going to do and saying that well we were better than last year is not an answer that's acceptable i know that from personal experience that that is not how the c b d works so the same kind of thing to apply to any other type of contracts that we let last week we approved on the agenda to support legislation about a protected class and we're all agreement that everyone needs to be all protected class needs to make sure that it's and here too and this is another protected class women the minority owned businesses that based on what i have been told about this company is not a hearing to their to their contracts so i cannot without information it says otherwise which i would if it's there i've not been able to receive it so either that means it's either it's not there or it's i'm just not receiving it neither of those is acceptable or enough information to me to make an informed decision other than what i already feel based on what has happened with this with this company and their prior performance and i feel that to continue to work contracts to a company that's not it here into what we require makes us complicit and with that i vote no on this piece of legislation concerns in the sense that we get not enough people bidding on some of these contracts whether they are minority women owned or anybody so there are other companies out there that have the capability you know carver a large construction company they have lots of trucks they have the statham and to run them and there are other companies out there that can do this kind of work i think you know what we need to do from an administrative standpoint is contact some of these other companies that have the equipment we know they have the equipment they do other jobs for us in the city and ask them why aren't they bidding on this from all the bids that we do in a city where we've had some situations where there's only one bid you know you reach out and they say well we never win it in so you know it could be from twenty years ago they said well we bid on it twenty years ago we didn't get it so we're never going to get it i think me coming upon us to reach out to these companies again and say hey is there a reason you are not bidding on them now we want some competition we want the price to go down by a dollar you know each time somebody bids on it and so you know i asked that we reach out and in to more companies that have the equipment and encourage more competitive bidding this is this was we we follow the process we follow the procedure on this one but it would be nice to have more competition so i will vote in favor of this all could be an i but  still think we need more work to drive more competition on these bits things  i have the same some concerns that consul persons ericsson and porterfield have on this this is been going on or not for a long time we you know parent lee council person porterfield didn't get some answers to some questions that she's had it's bothersome to me that this happens and the continuing to happen i think we have to look hard at this whole issue especially about minority hi if it's being in here to not being good here to why isn't it being adhered to it seems to be an ongoing problem the the article on the early boulevard that jason block spoke about it is kind of disturbing that the whole year went by no they find out after the fact that they were not hearing to the guidelines that something should happen and this this this whole thing is it comes down to there was rules in place are the rules being followed her now mr porterfield didn't get an answer an answer that satisfies her and i understand what mr erickson is saying also not of people bidding on projects so the whole thing is i think we have to take a hard look at at what these are a piece go out and how we're going to deal with it has a ministry to entity see that it's done differently i am between a rock and a hard place on this and i don't want to hold up this contract i know snow was a bounding care and a lot of things going to happen but this is really  tough spot but i really i'm going to i'm going to vote yes on this but this can be the last time when these questions come all these questions have to be answered we can't just let this go on or not or not i don't want to hold up the contract but this is the last time i'm going to be doing this when these questions come up if any one of you have a question i think it's not answered i think it's only fair that we have our questions answered so i will vote yes but with reservation ok thank you also am concerned that snow is coming and you know this is a company that has the heavy equipment to be called in and emergencies so i will vote i that i will talk with the sprecher and make sure that we continue this conversation tonight when you're looking again at the permit of action contract it has an option for renewal at the end of december thirty first of this year fifty thousand dollar contract to pay for america  i believe that this contract should be amended i asked for it last year to be amended to make sure that there is cooperation between both america do ski and i'm on use of in working with affirmative action of hiring person with disabilities this is part of your section five zero three requirements on federal and state contracts and this needs to be a drought we need to look at diversification of not only the city workforce some of that work has been done over the last couple years but as you can see there were some amera point ment's and everything else we need to find out exactly you know how many minorities do we have how many personal disabilities we have on staff and we need to break down so we can be able to look at how do we diversify or a workforce in here and also to say we need to take a look at the contracts that are coming out and seeing how these businesses are diversifying their own work force within their own business themselves we've got to start looking at this hiring of putting our own people back to work and also to is that we again like i said previously we have the r f p that coming up for the second half hopefully we can call for a public hearing by the end of  the in four weeks on how that are with p to be put together on and some ideas to start addressing the issues of jobs and how do we get our own people back to work again hamilton hill mount pleasant is about sixteen thousand dollars per per year with the city about thirty one thousand dollars per year there isn't a whole lot of room for for income and so forth and the quality of life and then the last minute that i needed to talk about this issue of caucuses the as long as you can call a caucus but as soon as you start using city resources and start using city staff inside the caucuses it's no longer a c it's an actual in the executive session so excluding and also to use vince is an independent is not a republican so he couldn't legally caucus with you and also even if you was a republican you could still caucus with you so you need to know what the what how you're going to actually put that together and if you take a look at the open media law on caucusing and so forth it's not the caucus it is a democratic party and this is the only state this is about one or two states that that have relaxed rules on and on the majority of city council meeting together in other states if you had more than in this case four people then it would be considered a midi and so they would flip a coin to see how many people go to an event and i know i just ran out of time but i'm just saying this is that we need to address the issue ok thanks thank you tony but no that he doesn't have to answer to anyone but she has to answer to other people i thought that everyone answered to the voters i just didn't understand what she was trying to say is there someone in the background parade holiday used to be a christmas parade in schenectady as far back as i could remember back in the sixty's when all of a sunday take it off for the day after thanksgiving because the proctors was having stand to pledge allegiance to the flag because he didn't want to be told what to do now let me put it this way if it wasn't for veterans that kept the nazis were they weren't a communist or they were this person would be told what i'm joy of schenectady talk about safety in this other stuff let me tell you you better put up signs or do something on state street and not terrorists because people are trading when the arrow is not on it you got to do something about that or something's going to happen we don't need no by getting killed in hit by cars and everything coming up the hill turn around to get a parking place they should go around a block and come down and find a parking place not to turn around because that's how things happen to make things happen already in we can have you more things happen like that it's got to stop and thank you p divorce  there seems to be a plethora of landlord associations all of a sudden there are special landlords for restrictive actually on the people that live on the street and road day i would drive for those but i remove this from the paper april the third this past year landlords group to me tonight the new group schenectady landlords influencing and well hold its monthly meeting at six thirty this evening at building inspector eagle eye eric schilling as planned all interested parties are welcome well i didn't get to that meeting and i'm always interested when something comes from one of the legislatures at the county legislature and that is besides being a member of the county legislature he is a homeowner so anyway as a buncha landlord and there and be this artistry thing you know we have a this golden gate situation here that only opens two days a week monday and friday for us to put in our our trash and i didn't say anything for you know i'm not dealing with this  foresman i forget his name of times or as i need you to summarize but anyway i left it with the people here who know the law ok and nothing's been done and i still maclane my name is mary maclean i live in the city i'm going to make a few comments about the city council's minutes although council approved the minutes for the october twenty second two thousand and twelve city council meeting the meetings of the minutes were incorrect because the minutes dead not blissed be as one of the speakers for the privilege of the floor segment of the meeting nor did the meeting include the public statements which i also submitted in writing for the record those statements were are important i wanted the record to show that it was the second time i had requested the  reinstatement of jason cuthbert to his city job mr rigging told the citizens citizens that jason's firing was the result of insubordination a man's conscience always takes precedence over obedience when hitler's henchmen led the jewish people to the gas chambers they told the courts they were soldiers obeying orders the courts did not agree the so called obedient soldiers were executed jason's conscience compelled him to take a position regarding a public issue as a resident of the city he also had a right to do sell and in so doing jason burke told the truth on the night of the public hearing several speakers told council not to pass the eight year county tax contract neither did muti agree with the mayor's strategy the eight year pounding sales tax contract never should have been passed all of you need to get together with the mayor and reinstate jason cutter to this city john thank you thank you jim are in the midst of the end of the year shopping season scuse me and i want to thank everybody who came down to visit our businesses this past saturday on the third annual small business saturday turn out was great it really does shine a light on the difference of our businesses we have a local independent businesses who are ready to greet you work with you suggest some great items and we had some promotions like i said that kicked off this past saturday and run all the way through christmas eve on december twenty fourth including our own it seasonal shopping pass we have twenty three businesses that are participating in the shopping pass program and what you can do is bring this there is one hundred fifty dollars worth of stamps on the card and you can bring it do a little shopping twenty dollars here fifty dollars there fill this up with one hundred fifty dollars with stamps the businesses will stamp it there are all listed on the back and you can fill that out and then turn it into when a downtown shopping spree spends more time in downtown some tickets to proctor's things like that all the information you can get these at all the participating businesses you can get them at our office all the information is online at downtown schenectady dot com we're also working this year for the first time with the city mission of schenectady and the ca northeastern new york what we're calling the buy local give local gift drive which will there's i believe about eleven or twelve businesses that have information on what types of items that they have available for purchase that you could then turn around to donate to local families in need that are participating in the programs of the city mission and the why don't we see a so that's something again you're helping patronize a small business but you're also back to the community and then we have just something fun the you know the window decorating contests we've got a lot of great people who are very creative and we have a voting contest with i think it's about thirteen downtown windows and then i'd also want to let you know that coming up this saturday december first from noon to five is our ninth annual downtown schenectady holiday open house from noon to five and we've got everything from specials on the businesses we've got tons of activities right here in city hall kids crash with schenectady high school we've got photos with santa we've got treats and music and it's just a fun day free horse and carriage rides around city hall downtown businesses will be related trees will come on down the saturday things ok thank you all right i have no one else signed up to speak on the city business so i'm going to declare that portion of the meeting closed and move to miscellaneous business of the council stuff one thing i barely maybe ate a little too much turkey at thanksgiving because i was completely caught a guard by committee reports so i just want to mention that disconnected landlords group that came had many suggestions for us which i would actually like to see recapped by them in writing but one of them was to reinstate the housing standards review board so i just want them to know that we are in the discussion phase of that the mayor is is looking to put so forth some suggestions for appointments and our legal department is just going over the code and kind of fine tuning and making sure it's where it needs to to be most effective so that is in the process and i want to let people know i also want to mention a news release that came out by metroplex and this was in the paper but i think it bears repeating because i think it's very very important we hear a lot of people that express concern about our pilot agreements and i know sometimes they can be hard to understand and when we're looking for additional revenue in the city it's sometimes frustrating to think that you know maybe a business has come in under a pilot agreement we may not be getting our fair share and i think this is a really good illustration of the wonderful work that metroplex is doing and the success of the pilot programs but the metroplex development authority provided an update are fifty one payments in lieu of tax agreements right now that it ministers as part of the county's unified economic development development team those agreements generated in two thousand and twelve more than nine million dollars in tax payments to local governments school districts county government that number continues to grow as the pilot structure increases year by year forty two of the fifty one pilot projects were built and sites that housed empty buildings and i think that's really really important for us to recognize this is vacant land formerly tax exempt property and it's been returned to the tax rolls and the sites have generated minimal or no taxes prior to the this development and i think that's really really important the other nine projects were company expansions that created new pilot revenues for us in addition to the pilot payments  the fifty one projects also pay additional taxes which cover special district taxes that are not covered by pilots so we have that covered too specifically in the city of schenectady in two thousand and thirteen pilot revenues to low government is county will continue to increase we're doubling the taxes on center city which is a beautiful new building in schenectady that's getting more and more tenants all the time in addition the former planned parenthood building and for fourteen union former girl scout building at one thirty one state street will be added to the tax rolls after major renovation work which was funded in part by metroplex the new trans finder building it for forty state also completed  was previously tax exempt that building site and mexican radio will be renovating a former tax exempt building at three twenty five state street well capital living completes a thirty million dollars project of hamburg st schenectady that will result in new revenues and formerly vacant land and finally of course the armory is going to be added back to the tax rolls for the first time in many many years so i think that bears note there are also have a lot of information if anybody wants more information on the individual pilots i'd be happy to share this press release with in addition i want to i can skip over my ideas i see announcements but i do want to talk about the canadian pacific  that's coming into the alcoa alcoa museum this is a great point family event is hack cocoa it's coming up i don't see the date they don't have a date on here well a small monetary donation so it's at the heritage museum on macs and road extension i also want to talk about art night it was very timely that vickie brought that up because we wholeheartedly agree that art a downtown merchants to have a different seemed event every month so we are on board we are supporting their d s i see is at the table d s i see did a great job cleaning up after how they prayed but we can't overlook the city either the street sweepers or crowd immediately honestly i was out and about and by the time we went home sometime around nine thirty or so even known that downtown is filled with people so it was fabulous because they really got things cleaned up in and moving really quickly after the parade passed good thing one last thing i do want to recognize the passing of barbara katz and send our condolences to her friends and family  if you don't know barbara by name you certainly have seen barbara around town she was at pretty much every single live music event always dancing always with a big smile on her face she loved her artwork and love sharing her artwork with people and she really was an icon in downtown for many many years so my condolences and i'm sure i can speak on behalf of the rest of the council that we send our our sorrow to the her family and friends thank you thank you anyone else that there's a decision that has to be made so if you could give me an update on it i'd appreciate it mayor second there's a there's a problem obviously and i know the police department is very aware that we have some bars in the city that are causing a lot of problems and we're using a lot of city resources to take care of these problems and it seems to be an ongoing thing and it seems to be a lot of the same players earn volved in these incidents i think it's something we have to look through strongly and maybe if the s l a isn't going to do what they're supposed to do maybe we have to looks at some new legislation when we have problems in these places when there are ongoing problems over and over and over again because the city resources that are being used and people putting their lives in danger by answering these calls that's not a good thing to  happen and it seems to be happening more and more often so i think it's something we should discuss and see if we can come up with something because it can't go on like this there's problems and mom pleasant bars  problems and downtown bars woodlawn bars it seems to be all over and you know people are getting stabbed people are being murdered there's there's things going on we can't allow this i don't think to go on anymore and i know it's it's part of society but i think we have to do our best to try to curb this i like to give a tip of the hat to which i don't wear a hat and my pleasant the so she ation for what they've gone and their community it shows you when you get a group of people working together for the betterment of their neighborhood what can happen with the right attitude so that's that's a big plus for the city and it's a plus for mount pleasant and i think that's that's something for them to be proud of and for the city to be proud of like to work welcome vicki horwitz to the review board should be a good addition a good fair minded the person so i think that's a that's a good a good thing for for the city and for the please review board thank you thank you just a couple things for me one of the out of a slash christmas parade i attended as well i decided that i would call the deputy chief and ask if i could ride in the new fire truck that was also participate in the parade and i guess a it's a pretty nice car truck we've got to stay there piece of equipment but more importantly i learned something very important in this parade and that's people love firemen so i you know so i'm sitting in the fire truck and i go ahead this is kind of cool it's the one of the bucket list items i guess as i said this is a neat need opportunity and people are just you could see the love they're throwing the firemen so as a recommendation  are what we make of our community and so when you have a group of people that are volunteering whether it's painting fire hydrants we're doing any other volunteer work in the city we need a lot more of that in every body just volunteered a little bit we would participated when we had the landlord group that came down last week or last cycle and talked that's the kind of participation we need in our community there people are talking about their issues and then offering suggestions of this is how we can make it better it's a team effort i details lined up and and settle on before we go forward but we've got a little bit of time left before the tax bills go out and the budget is finalized but here we are but still open to ongoing discussions and working together so thank you thank you out condolences out to her family and loved ones won't be quite the same age yet jazz on jay without her being there jason talked a little bit about diversifying the workforce of the city etc and i have to echo that as as well were city have changed significantly so you know our work force and all that really really needs to represent that and so you know we talked about how we're going to bring that back to the council in committee and i really just  say that we really need to do that so that everyone that lives here feels included in every way possible and beyond that when the people are hired locally it just moves the money around in the community so that it strengthens the tax base of our community as well so all of those things employing people that live and work in the community if they also are able to work in the community and again diversifying their workforce so it represents the city that that we live in i'd like to say also congratulations to the mt pleasant neighborhood association for all the work that they've done i went to the sun meeting the other day and so i got to meet a few other people but i also got to know mr have faith and mission it a little bit better so i applaud them for the work that they're doing and also for the fact that they are part of sun and they're sharing that so i just see this is becoming something that expands throughout the city and let me just also mention there are other big other neighborhood associations have also been working so i think that we should just always make sure that we bring that to the forefront as well so that we know that because all the roads maybe aren't doing as much but people are working and i think that that's what's necessary and we should continue to to encourage and apply that and i just hope everyone had a really nice thanksgiving and that's all i have tonight thank you thank you mr mayor thank you mr review ethics board still waiting conversation with rocker and some of outlining what's acceptable what's not acceptable again some of them stolen gauge in a course of conduct in the pattern of behavior that is unacceptable and we're going to deploy the resources to make sure that that message is sent out that it begin is unacceptable and if you have specific things you want followed up on we will do that but we have been doing that ongoing basis want to thank  mt pleasant again for their efforts in painting the fire hydrants does make a significant difference in the neighborhood in the activity that is happening this past week we also cut the ribbon on the rehabilitated tennis courts and  schuyler street again it's all these little things that add up over time and appreciate the activities that people do on behalf of the city and can wish everyone a happy holiday season thank you ok explain the purpose of the recess speeding pollution concerning the sale of potential sale of some property on wires alley thank you all right have a good evening everyone