subdivision may create a minimum with minimum twenty four why sanitary sewer easement that would run ten feet on each side of this common lot line all the way up to the ruby property minimum said backs side and rear or side you know the minimum step back here would be fifteen feet there sixty eight years which would have show in this case and it would cause the need for a retaining wall a carry on as it was pushed up closer towards the well to the back of a playground area around council in june graded a vari have an eleven foot wall the player ok their loss occasions were that the playground was being slightly smaller and the buildings were moved forward and to the north good evening good to see you all again thank you very much only appreciate that good description of where where where we've been and where where we've come today we did start looking at the site back in two thousand and i'm sorry bob z and for us seven hundred eighty s colonial drive orlando florida thank you we started looking at the site back in two thousand and thirteen at that time due diligence was done and unfortunately the right parian buffer rules that we have today were not in place so believe it or not the day we came up here to meet with you all last was the day we found out about this so since that time we have gone through several it the plan to get to the one we have here today we did come back before council and had variance approved as emily stated for eleven foot wall so did as she stated the site plan basically got compressed we did have to move the building up closer to the street the playgrounds got smaller they still are in compliance with all of the requirements for playground sizes based on the student count but we did have those h b ac units for usually typically for primrose we have them back in an enclosed area in the playground they needed to be moved out so we could still have room for that playground equipment and then we did at the end where we had a dual sidewalk system up front one of those sidewalks was to service the the folks there were coming in from the parking lot the other sidewalk is to service the children coming out of the classroom we now have instead of having a dual sidewalk system we have combined that there is an eight foot wide sidewalk they'll be a fence mounted in that sidewalk so that you have a four foot sidewalk on  the parking lot side you have a four foot sidewalk on the building side for that for the students so we basically compress this site plan down beyond that it's essentially what you saw before the parking lot layout the access off of water dam the access off the galley and there are same exact locations we are currently permanent this through penn dot the plans have been submitted depend plans have been submitted to the peters township sewers or to sanitary authority for their review ed and we've come to some agreements on what we're going to need to do to get through those the other guars change was that these systems stormwater system will be going wholly underground that is because before previously that was proposed back in the ri buffer so we will have some disturbance the right period of offer you'll see the thick dash lines going through the site there they kind of are through the rear of the site one of those is a one hundred foot setback the one that's closest to the building is one hundred fifty foot setback does allow you to go into the area between the one hundred in the one hundred fifty foot setback with some minimal equivalency they call it in other words we need to prove some equivalent storage and and treatment of our stormwater that would mimic the right perry and buffer if you go into that last one hundred forty you can still do it it gets increasingly difficult so we are staying out of that one hundred foot zone and will only be disturbed between the one hundred one fifty zone as you can obviously you see with some some sanitary sewer relocation going through that area as well as the retaining walls so with that being said i'm here to answer any other questions you might have about her vice a plant stalls that are up against the building from there over is where all the changes happened everything else from there to the street stayed the same and then repair it expect to do improvements to their ear just leave it natural there are going to be there's going to be some great this is a drainage plant here so you can see that with the contour lines that are drawn on that plan the grading the grading activity stop at that one hundred foot line so from the inside that one hundred foot zone there between the end of our great activities and galley road that will remain totally undisturbed requirements with are submitted to the e p a they'll be telling us if we need to do any enhancements to the one hundred to one fifty  we expect that there may be some some additional plantings that might need to be done in there in order to provide some additional treatment of the storm water runoff what type of permit do you believe you need from the d p at this point it is it's it's for the erosion said it may control stormy waters yes the individual or the end of it is an individual permit yes yes and we don't expect there to be changes to the site plan there may be some changes with some plantings that you see in that riparian buffer but the site planned we've again gone through several iterations to make sure we feel very comfortable with the site plan moving forward and stacy and i discussed that today about you know my concern being if there are some changes during the permitting process as long as they don't affect that site plan and how that site plans laid out the only thing that maybe changes is it is a stick of pipe that will go from one spot to another instead it we're talking underground storm water i think some sanitary ball things that won't be visible from the surface would be the only changes the only changes that you would see possibly in a permanent process as we move forward that would be visible would be some additional landscaping which would go over and above any code requirements of the township may have square foot to the good if i remember correctly somewhere around that this is compressed to the greatest extent possible no doubt about it no we have not lost any equipment we've we've had to again move those world to get that playground equipment in there we have we've gone we've we've gone to the hilt here at making sure we've utilized every square inch we can use on the site without getting into again that extra minute lead very difficult if you get inside that one underneath this is an open system so you can think of it as a glorified french drain out of the parking lot so there will be some under drains and a sand bed underneath that underground tank system that we have and so the water with the water that is held back in the system before it over flows that we are in discharges that water will go down through that sand filter and discharge offsite and then of course it once it fills up to a certain point there will be an overflow we are that then toss it discharges off so that located in the lower  there and that was what that was one of the questions that stacy had in her review and we will be adding some additional ports to the system so that you'll be able to get in there in jet that system out and then vacuum you'll be jetting it out through the system and into the mainstream in goodness i've probably put in one hundred of these systems if not more and one of the things they also do with that they've been in they've been incorporating most recently is they have what's called the isolator row and what that is is that's the first row that sees stormwater they actually put that at a slightly lower elevation so that that one row because we have several rows of this that one row gets the majority of the sediment and so even the that is the one that you're going to be focusing all your situation that didn't go as we had hoped because of the jets or to get in there and move all the sand on the one side and to basically slews that material up was it was significant challenge so i'm not sure if talking with the e p it's kind of strange to me and in what week is this from florida we sit on a big sand filter the e p a is actually having folks similar to this system here with out under drains and we're putting on a green zone our system which is over and above what  s have and some other folks do there literally i mean you obviously have all your underlying soils you don't have infiltrate capabilities at all so if you over excavate them and put in sand what happens that sand fills up with water and it still doesn't go anywhere we've put in the under drain so that there will be a physical filter that flows through water rather than just letting it sit down there and remain stagnant so that's something i felt necessary to do again and it will help with that manus of the system if it's just doesn't have stagnant water once you put two foot of sand underneath  buildings but with that being impacted now with these p c systems yeah and actually indirectly yeah actually this building is typically one building as you know we've run through the iteration of making these two buildings so typically the students will be around the ends of the building anyway and so they are there are there is a fence and again that they'll be able to eat grass up one side and around the other which would be typical for this building if we hadn't had that breezeway to begin with in close that entire area with a four foot white p v c fence so that would be behind  unusable space to us to be honest with you we can't connect it with a change in elevation we can't connect it to our facility and utilize it for anything and it's also the storm water management cannot discharge there because it's too high and all run into the sewer pipe so that's why the would it be possible i'm not familiar with the regulations for park or for playground just a suggestion could we access that through is that a stairs or ramp for a lower play area is just a thought because the i look at what we were originally saw which was an amazing product i was very excited my only other thought that just jumps into my brain is is the ability to do thing to get from one area to the other i've got to go through the sewer authorities easement they've been pretty adamant that they don't want anything in their easement so we had that's the other challenge here is we've kept the playground equipment the retaining walls anything has been the holy left outside of their easement so it's not said not to say that we can't do it but we need to take it up with the authority and then all outdoor seen that we've got aerial women just i just saw recently we're right at the back of the playground it's a thirty or forty foot tall wall so that they make sure that that is a very blue or properties that were originally part of the conservation or mixed residential roadways that are being taken down to those properties are mainly to be taken out because they're they don't front on  come clarified subset backs in here here come the mixed residential still has the same ratio based on size of the property in a mixed presidential district if it's less than fifteen acres or less you can only hear only you or permitted to do just one type of housing you go from fifty to fifty acres you have to the least include two different styles of units in a mixed residential neighborhood and if you're fifty acres or more then you have to at least three different multifamily mixed residential products but that's the same