an academic in many a p spanish students work with spanish one students to successfully answer questions for the final oral interview they help a spanish one student to correct errors in their answers and then conducted mock interviews with several different students the a p student gave corrective feedback and helped the spanish one students improve their answers this peer collaboration was organized by teachers back and caitlin mckenna fifth grade students at mcnairy elementary celebrated colonial days as accommodating activity for their studies of the american colonies the day began with a visit from betty a model and wild willy from the right house and venetia students and rotated through hands on activities where they could try their hand at sewing tin punching cooking johnny cakes and other colonial crafts pleasant valley third graders celebrated their hometown pride during their annual third grade musical students shared facts about our city's history and culture including dancing the terran tele and the black and gold b cmu professor kim hyatt and her students visited p t m s to share the vex robots with students in just one period of mr beta's class students were able to build run and disassemble these robots that are part of a pilot program through the pittsburgh robotics library high and her team are working with peters to create a program that can be brought to schools throughout the area and exposed to those who different types of robots in the span of a class students from a stark sixth grade class visited second graders in ms edwards class about our hill to share their research on dragons and mythology both groups of students did their own research and shared what they learned with their peers in the forms of stories research displays and poetry on june second pleasant valley held their annual spelling bee for third grade students sponsored by the mcmurry rotary the event takes place annually at both pleasant valley and bauer hill elementary schools in addition to sponsoring the bees in each school each fall the rotary provides dictionaries for all third grade students in the district in honor of former superintendent dr howard jack the winners from both schools are listed above on june second peter township middle school held their annual eighth grade awards ceremony to recognize academic achievements among the student body wards are given in many areas including outstanding creativity student citizenship and each year the staff members  t m s also honored two students with the teacher excellence award for overall academic dedication leadership service and courage this year's recipients are listed above these graders enjoyed their picnic as the school year ended seventh graders were having their own fun at the school one a day filled with games centered around their core subjects students competed as homerooms in academic games that focused on math language arts science and social studies as well as logic problem solving and team building homerooms are given points for each competition of the day and the winning team have a chance to face off in a volleyball game in the gym against the faculty in the week leading up to graduation the high school held their annual senior awards ceremony to honor students academic achievements it was an outstanding event filled with many great accomplishments in all this year peter's township seniors and more than seven point two million dollars in scholarships more than two hundred thousand dollars above last year's total second raters about were held celebrated flag day and the last day of school with a special ceremony students learned all about the evolution of the flag saying patriotic songs and heard from betsy ross herself who looked a lot like school librarian myro the peter township fire department was also on hand to bring a special flyby ladder truck and to accept a one hundred dollar donation from the students for all they do for our community kylie marshall as well as teacher miss kate mccann a wish to congratulate our graduates and their families and wish them well as they had to college next year that murray elementary celebrated their annual arts festival and entrepreneur fair in may the evening featured many displays of student work performances by the sixth grade band and corps as well as many hands on arts activities guest could also visit the entrepreneur fair and purchase products made by students through their collaboration with junior achievement this year proceeds from the sale of the items goes to the charity of the students choice barefoot brought their musical theater class to mcmurry as they performed alice and original musical loosely based on alice in wonderland the show focused on anti drug an anti bullying themes and promoted individuality and tolerance real art of listening promotes active listening skills in our students and exposing them to music art and children's literature that are connected through a share the same as here mr bob tepper and the art of listening teen invited community members become a part of this effort and read books to the students throughout the school year and students heard from fireman policeman are township manager librarians and more there are great students all their performances with thank you note to our community  i school senior can acumen shared her artistic talents with physics teacher susan lubinsky and the result is an amazing original mural in the physics classroom featuring a quote from albert einstein q and designed planned and painted the mural with a little help from and the end result is shown above on may twentieth the district celebrated seven student athletes who have made the commitment to play at the college level next year the students and their sports are listed above the spanish two classes peters township high school learned about struggling students in guatemala and created videos to raise awareness and funds to sponsor a student's education for a year one of these videos was shared with mcmurry students to promote awareness and  mcmurry students raised a total of five hundred fifty dollars and eleven cents to contribute to this cause the money will be enough to sponsor one child for an entire year in schools with extra funds for school supplies congratulations to the peters township high school interact club who has been named outstanding interact club at the regional rotary conference last year the club was named club of the year at the same conference teacher judy alexander sponsors this club at the high school excellence in leadership peers township high school special education teachers and students took part in the life skills prom that took place at the omni liam penn on may twenty seventh during the school day the event included thirteen area schools and was funded through donations on may twenty eighth the peters township federation of teachers held their annual retirement dinner to celebrate the careers of their colleagues who retired at the end of the school year it was a wonderful ride and we thank you going to nigel's who gave so much to the students in peter's township whether they were in the ing they like to address please step to the podium there will be an opportunity later on at the end of the meeting for agenda items on the president's comments we had a couple of executive sessions one on june eighth one and twenty fourth and one part of this meeting these were various legal litigation and negotiation items does anyone have anything under old business they would like to bring up none under new business we have are hopefully the last motion of this type for this so with some like to make that one so a discussion on favorite and oppose no motion carr close personal meeting was held on june twenty fourth to discuss contract negotiations and other personnel items have some recommendations the first one is approve an unpaid one day suspension for employee zero five one four one five zero ten and i'm assuming all these recommendations you're considering is a motion yes ok and do we have a second to move to second a discussion represented by the peace talk to a federation of teachers and peters township school district effectively july first two thousand and fourteen through june thirty twenty eighteen second it's been moved and seconded any board discussion any public discussion all those in favor place ai and oppose no motion character like to make a motion to consider motion to prove the salary adjustment for confidential secretary payroll specialist independent contractor employees at will employees and has been moved and second is there any board discussion going public discussion all those in favor place a i motion to prove the employment agreement with mr adams when chuck for a position of director of instructional technology for a period july first two thousand and fifteen through june thirty twenty eighteen this agreement shall serve as an ovation to replace the agreement entered into lots of temper thirtieth two thousand and thirteen second it's been moved and seconded any board discussion any public discussion all full time confidential secretary business office for the second so it's been moved and seconded the board discussion and a public discussion all those in favor p authorize a superintendent to review and approve construction change orders proposed during the months of july and august two thousand and fifteen without additional board approval so long as the change order does not exceed ten thousand dollars and the prior written notice of the in favor of approving item number six please say i i am opposed no motion carrier seventh recommendation of the high school consider a motion to award the purchase of stage risers to linger corp at a cost of twelve thousand four hundred forty six dollars winger corp is a member of the and participates with costars thirty four this purchase will be funded by the two thousand and fifteen two thousand and sixteen capital projects fund w project or or a purchasing contract where the state has already put out for bid certain services or supplies or anything that districts in can participate without going through the advertised been saved in a cost yes number eight i would like to pull that from the agenda tonight and have the opportunity to bring that up a later time after we get more information ok number nine with murray school consider a motion toward the purchase of sixteen cafeteria tables fifteen rectangular tables and one eighty eight to franklin interiors at a cost of twenty two thousand and forty six dollars and seven cents franklins interiors is a p a state approved vendor for commercial furniture number four four zero zero zero zero nine eight one four this purchase will be funded by the two thousand and fifteen two thousand and sixteen capital projects fun number ten pleasant valley school consider motion toward a purchase of eighty eight interior window shades to caldwell's windows incorporated cost of nine hundred thousand one hundred fifty dollars caldwell window where incorporated i ph state approved vendor and a member of costars zero three five zero six seven this purchase to be funded by the two thousand and fifteen two thousand and sixteen capital projects fun to have a second second it's been moved and seconded to any board discussion and public discussion all in favor of proving ten police say are i and opposed not motion care recommendation number eleven middle school consider motion toward a contract to i'm sorry if i mispronounce this fund go to month jovi and sons plumbing contractor lp at a cost of six thousand three hundred ninety five dollars for the replacement and repairs the  seven hundred thirty this purchase be funded by the two thousand and fifteen two thousand and sixteen capital projects fun but a second it's been moved and seconded any board discussion any public discussion cost of six thousand two hundred seventy five dollars for the power washing cleaning the brick front and precast concrete surfaces to other contractors submitted proposal marion and richards incorporated a cost eight thousand four hundred twenty and allegheny restoration incorporated cost the sixteen thousand four hundred five second thirteen district wide consider a motion to award an air conditioning preventive maintenance contract to train building services at a cost of fifteen thousand three hundred one thousand dollars for the period of july first two thousand and fifteen to june thirtieth two thousand and sixteen a second it's been moved and seconded any board discussion and the public discussion all in favor approving number thirteen please say i i can oppose no motion character recommendation number fourteen district why i consider a motion to award a hot water boiler preventive maintenance contract to combustion service an equipment company for direct digital control d d c h fact and borlase services at a cost of one thousand one hundred  twenty dollars for the period of july first two thousand and fifteen to june thirtieth two thousand and sixteen the second again has been moved and seconded the board discussion and the public discussion all in favor of proving number install steps and sidewalk along retaining wall for travel to and from the rear parking lot at a cost to seventeen thousand nine hundred ninety eight dollars all in a number to middle school rare exhilarate gym entrance and stalls step sidewalk curb works late this afternoon we're on schedule we're on task there's still a lot of demolition the demolition is primarily over for all the targeted first phase and second phase areas tradesmen are working diligently the the heavy lifting is the the chilled water system lighting the electrical components there's only two or three electricians on the job there but the the gallia has a real heavy task in with all the chilled water piping because that's pretty much all welded and custom fit and there's a lot of intricate pathways to get through the building when the ceilings come down so i have been there will have we have our tuesday morning meetings at nine o'clock everything's on target and even the weather has not been a problem i know we have a few pictures mrs belcher's going to put them out on the website for you all to view the phase and where we're at now ok that will be the district website it will be yes ok ok thank you have one question with respect to the mcnairy do you do you know i did we get everything through planned con is it the i believe today we have everything filed with the plan concept and that we can fall for it this time further cost and everything as the project proceeds or gets closer to the end of the project that's where we we apply more for actual cost bases to play on ok i think it's a phase for money that is one example but so mad i guess there was a proposal that the state was going to find some of these that are out there but i guess that remains to be sixth two thousand and fifteen number sixteen recommendation consider a motion to approve the following text books for adoption these are the books that have been on the table here behind me for the past month for public review since is our final voting i am going to read the titles but i'm not going to read the i as b n numbers high school social studies american government academic and honors united states government our democracy student edition with six year online access two thousand and sixteen mcgraw hill cost twenty seven thousand one hundred seventeen dollars and seventy five cents middle school and high school world languages  total cost ninety one thousand one hundred six dollars and forty five cents i'm going to give it a go middle school i took french in high school doc or level one and two student edition super site plus the text online with the six year license i did not take german so somebody help me here anybody have any idea how to pronounce this mosaic thank you middle school german one in german one one a and one b high school german one two and three so we have mosaic level one two and three student editions plus super site plus the text on line six your license high school german to ease student edition hardcover plus super site plus the text nine on line and spanish middle school spanish one spanish one be high school spanish one two three spanish four honors anybody do this group are a thank you level one two and three student edition super site plus the text on line six year of license before we go to never mind that thank you all the components of the text including any online materials the textbook i saw all the super site and it's a it's a really great site the quality of the textbook is as good as if it's sitting in your hands and it does things like a child could click on a word in the other language and it will say it to them so really it's really interactive and it's a pretty exciting resource for the kids and teachers that terrific what i would hope that happens is that teachers strongly encourage kids to use it that they mention the benefits of it in open houses and teacher conferences because so many times i have seen students who don't realize how powerful the online text is because they think it it is just what they have here why go online but some of the interactive or videos or tutorials i found just in our own experience sometimes are so helpful and we've only begun to look at that when you know the academics  down a little bit and they need a little extra help so hopefully that the teachers are encouraging people and we can all encourage people to do that the teachers are starting to draft some of the curriculum in after in hopes that these would be approved tonight of course and they're writing it into the curriculum how they'll use the super site great the other piece of that that's very attractive to me is that that means the child doesn't need to take the book home which will get rid of some of those forty pound backpacks yes i think that's a great advantage as well yes a lot of the texts are a lot just by how expensive it looks a lot of them are for classroom sets for any other board the public on i do have one one of the question if we if the life of these texts exceed six years can we renew the license for the super say i believe we can that something we have to look into it is renewable it just becomes it in additional cost that is why we we you know as we didn't adopt french three because we aren't writing the curriculum to avoid starting that six year cycle before we actually have a textbook in hand even though it would have been easy to just do it all at the same time we didn't have enough french teachers to write all that curriculum at that point so we put pas to ensure that we get the maximum out of what we're buying exxon excuse me dr murray one more question placed on these books will they be up books are something something new happens and they're talking about it in a different country or that well that well the online could potentially change i'm not i don't know how texts quickly textbook companies turn those around and becomes up to the the textbook company at that point to thank you and the other board comments questions any public comment on this i don't ok then the vote will be for all the items on a recommendation number committing meeting was held on monday june eighth two thousand and fifteen from that meeting several recommendations number one number seventeen scuse me consider a motion to adopt a general fund budget for the two thousand and fifteen sixteen school year in the amount of fifty nine million three hundred ninety one thousand three hundred sixty four dollars the proposed final budget amount adopted in may was fifty nine million six hundred eighty seven thousand four hundred three dollars second it's been moved and seconded any board discussion the public discussion all in favor of proving number seventeen please say i have an opposed no motion cared number eighteen to consider a motion to establish a real estate milage rate of one ten point seven five mils for the fifteen sixteen fiscal year the one ten point seven five mils rate includes a three point six zero eight mil increase second it's been loaded second at any board discussion the public discussion all in favor please say i for a number eighteen i am opposed up motion character number nineteen consider a motion to approve the fifteen sixteen technology budget in the amount of one million nineteen thousand three hundred eighty four dollars this amount excludes salary and benefits this amount is included in the general fund budget so it's been moved and seconded any board discussion the public discussion all in favor approve a number nineteen place ai i am opposed no motion care number twenty consider a motion to approve the fifteen sixteen curriculum budget in the amount of three hundred thirty four thousand five hundred forty three dollars this amount is included in the general fund budget second it's been moved and seconded is very bored discussion is there any public discussion on favre proving number twenty please say i hide and oppose no motion character twenty one consider a motion to approve the fifteen sixteen capital projects budget and the amount of seven million seven hundred fourteen thousand three hundred twenty nine thousand and twenty nine hundred twenty nine dollars sorry these big numbers the time of budget was seven million three hundred seven thousand five hundred fifty three this budget includes a one hundred sixty thousand five hundred dollar transfer to the general fund has been moved and seconded a board discussion i just want to clarify the transfer to the general fund is reimbursement of capital project expenses paid that general fund yes to my knowledge and i just also wanted to clarify just because this is the final budget is that we are setting the budget not specific items that may have been listed and that capital projects again to my knowledge that's correct ok thank you any other questions any public on it all in favor of proving number twenty one place a i and i and opposed on motion care twenty two consider a motion to approve all taxes under the local tax enabling act act five eleven to remain any public discussion all in favor of number twenty three please say i oppose not motion care twenty four consider a motion to approve the attached homestead farmstead resolution for the fifteen sixteen fiscal year eligible property owners will receive a one hundred twenty one dollar twenty cent reduction in real estate tax by providing a credit of one million ninety four dollars and thirty six cents of assessed value  i just figure you in a word about the bill because that a bit of extra reduction for your house you know that's all that money from the casino right any public discussion all in favor of approving number twenty four pla don't oppose no motion carried number twenty five consider a motion as per section six eighty eight of the public school code limitations on certain un reserve fund balances be resolved by the  directors that it will commit the designated eight million dollars of surplus funds for the purpose of satisfying future debt service obligations and increases in the employer contribution to the public school employee retirement system as follows  service three point five million retirement fund four point five million by taking this action the district has fulfilled its obligation to maintain an assigned fund balance that does not exceed eight percent as legally required the unassigned fund balance is estimated to be one point two hundred one million two hundred twenty seven thousand one hundred and eighty six dollars saying it has been the second at any board discussion i just have one question about  possible pyrite issues at the middle school and i in the future i think what would happen is that we have a sufficient balance in the capital fund so that if tomorrow they said that was an issue we would have money but what i would ask is that we always keep that in the back of our mind to the extent that that capital fund diminishes that at some point we might have to commit or set aside some money  would we is the question to you know because it was always my understanding is that it could never happen and we could never need it or next month they could say there's been a shift and we need it so i just wanted to put that on our radar true that is correct we do have a certain amount well not really committed in the open projects funded because that is restricted we can only use that for those funds for cut capital projects but one of the issues and one of the projects we do have  forgets and uses those funds will i ever possible are you saying there really set aside has to make more that let that happen actually what can happen with the copper projects fund is something comes up in the board sees fit to use the funds from capital projects and i think your question is asking if we can recommit this the board looks at their fund balance in the operating fund every year and by this we're saying ok we're going to commit certain funds to reserve that money and yes the board  at some time transfer some of that money to the capital projects fund right but right now we do have money set aside in a couple projects and for the mcmurry pyrite issue ok so that's that doesn't have anything to do with you now you can go on your retirement till the end of the year any public finance questions i'd like to bring up ok moving on let's see will skip policy for this evening prevention and response as we have said before in different meetings the version that's proposed as a first read has as significant parts of it came from a p s p a recommended policy the department of education is also required to provide a sample policy which they have not done so yet so at this point we're proposing eight nineteen as a first read and hopefully before the second read in august we'll have the opportunity to have the p t e version to compare so there might be some changes to the second read but we do statutorily have to have a version some version of eight nineteen approved through second read at the start of the school year in the fall so if anybody has any changes or discussion they'd like to have on eight nineteen we can do that now we can also wait till p t comes in because there might be some will be available to the public for them to review it should actually be online also already it's on line already yes i believe there are copies thank you so at that point do i ask for any public on that is there any public comment on the proposed eight nineteen that's on for first read ok then the second is a motion to approve the second reading and adoption of the following policies except policy one twenty eight for second by second just a point of clarification policy one twenty eight is being removed for not needing it any longer correct i was going to do that in the discussion but thank you as i mean just for the public's knowledge we have gone through all of these policies in detail at a committee meeting as well as a first read  over the course of the last year and felt that it was important to bring them all together in a second read so that there was no confusion about which policies are force and which policies are not so that is the purpose of having all two hundred plus policies on for second read at one time we still in discussion i would like to think this is anderson for what i would consider a superhuman effort in all the time that you have gone through in the great detail that you have shepherded these policies through the process thinking thank you very much i appreciate that i think we'd all agree with  vote will be for number twenty six which will be all of the most of the policies so all in favor please say aye i oppose and i also have to add an additional motion and i will make the motion and then discuss why didn't have it on for this evening the motion is to approve the policies listed in the table contents as the complete policy manual of the peters township school district replacing all prior versions so i can ok discussion emotion was very clear  well i just wanted to say to the public just because it was not listed on the agenda explained that once i came this evening and talked to the solicitor and asked is this all we need to do is approve these policies we realized i have to do something to remove the policies that are currently in force and so this motion attempts to do that and there were a couple motions  that currently exist that maybe didn't want included in a rewrite so this motion was meant to just do a final cleanup so that we all know that all the policies listed on the table contents which will appear on the website eventually are the entire policy manual and also for the public what happens is we will send copies of all of these policies to p s b h a they have to make sure they're formatted correctly and do a couple little other  dating of them and they send them back to us so you might not see them on the website tomorrow i know you won't see them tomorrow or the next week there will be some time but i can assure you that if i have any say in it it will definitely be you know by the august time period when school's going to start so everybody knows what the policies have having said that these are all listed and read line version on website currently now as proposed policies for tonight's meeting so you do have access to them all but it's just not nice and pretty like it would be on our website today and the other attend the meeting held on june seventeenth it was basically a routine business meeting this was the month when they do salary adjustments so there was some extensive discussion and that probably the the two things that would be of interest to the board are first of all there was an offering solicitation of a motion to approve changes to the handbook without any changes to the handbook being presented to the board the board  there was some extensive discussion of it the the motion of course was a motion to authorize payment of these extra duty positions the other extra duty positions that were approved were all activities involving the western area students the objection to the funding of the coach for titanium titans is that there is no western area student participating in that not a single one they will continue to make the space available to the titanium titans and they're welcome to fundraise to pay for the coach just like that the space will continue be available which is critical but they did defund the coach's position ok involving construction of robots and the peters town the local team is called the titanium titans we have students from four different school districts participating interestingly enough of those four school districts peters is the only one who's a western area school the other three schools are not western area schools and there is not a single western areas student participate in that was that was the barrier those were the folks that were over here mcmurry middle school they were a few months ago ok and i have heard of them and they're like this space the space is the problem is not space the problem is access to equipment they need to be able to weld they need to be able to solder they need to be able to cut machine a metal and so doing it western area in the machine shop lab was perfect and the teacher there is a big proponent and was the serving as the coach but western area just said it's not appropriate for us to fund avocation they're also part of this is a mobile unit because it is quite a distance for our students to go there is a mobile lab component world to be able to bring those opportunities to our students and we've already mr s of course he's already engaged with the intermediate unit to make sure that we are on the radar for the mobile lab that our children be able to benefit from the great grant opportunity and couple the items in there are three d printers advanced technology type things so it's going to be quite an opportunity for  students to have that coming up that will be open in the fall in the mobile lab was they were going to get in and hire next week so it should be here in the fall ok kayne coming up to superintend it's agenda i'm requesting action on certificate of personnel items number one through seven it's been moved and seconded to approve items three one through seven is there any discussion yes i'd just like to say i'm sorry to see that lindsay meyers is retiring his library resigning on extra duty personnel programs items number one three seven i have to recuse myself from the second part of one benjamin gardiner is a dear family friend move seconded to approve items five one through seven is there any more discussion just a point of clarification all due respect mr bowman family friends is not a part of the classification for your recusing yourself i was under the impression that only family would be an institution that you would have to recuse yourself from voting and so i just asked a chair i don't see that as a need for recusing yourself or a vote that would be my standing but we have a lot of friends in life that's my point know there's no legal requirement that you abstain from voting for somebody that's a friend on however if you don't feel that you can give an unbiased vote you can start your certainly have a right to abstain from any vote  give you some guidance and you know ok any other discussion i guess i'm going to bring up number six the weight room supervisors i just want to clarify that a lot of these individuals are coaches there and they take their own students in their own athletes just that whenever they're supervising they should be supervising not their athletes but other other athletes or the community at  comment that i dislike significantly this board approving actions that have already taken place i won't point out the direct reference that i'm pointing to in this section but there is one in this section where there is a person who has already been performing duties that were voting on and i just would request that administration take into consideration that this retroactive activity where somebody is already in action ought not be and then they be brought actions so i just disagree rate my broken record comment i'm not going to say which one you know and i but these are all for next year i understand that but the person is doing it now  motion care requesting action on educational programs and student activities one item only i just had a question about the barnes and noble book fair with one wheel i was like yes you are making a motion open for discussion thank you sorry about that other barnes and noble book fair we don't have students or teachers involved in that is that correct and we do that well i know that  we advertise it and like the librarian would come to p t a meetings and discuss it and say please go and makes money for the library i commend them we've been we've been making this comment about this topic over the course of my tenure on this board so i commend them for being proactive in getting this in so we can deal with it now and i would just encourage the rest of them to do likewise i too would rather have them do other things instead in the corner of valley broken mcmurry hop in their science for car washes but that's actually all of the organizations have been asked to turn them in a year in advance that's my point i thought that was so that your boosters or head of the curve commend them for us and the other board comments they all improved favor of approving items seven number one please say i am and oppose no motion care amount that we award is based on the interest that the fund accrues to that piece but i believe in the original stipulation it would come through the board actually is money has been set aside in a trust and the only thing that we can give away and only is the interest that is earned on that trust and the check will not be distributed until we receive all the paperwork in august so that's the reason for the estimate of one hundred seven dollars it might be slightly higher or closer to that number i wasn't actually asking that question advertise the scholarship as i understand someone applies for it by the request or whatever sad that the school board had to apply to us this is baird was a long time teacher to school district i also wanted to thank the p t a as if you see items number one two and three all of those were donations by the various p t a is in the district and if you look at  it adds up to over eighteen thousand dollars worth of equipment in art and technology and and that sort of thing that goes to the district so thank you very much rates so the titles listed here are ticket seller ticket taker crowd control scoreboard it cetera the difference can you explain the numb the dollar amounts listed here  is this for an event i'm sure it's not an hourly rate or else i'm going to become a ticket to need to upgrade to its power per event her event it's a three percent  increase the fees that will be offering is a three percent increase over the fees we paid last year ok so i understand you know we have a sport that has many hundreds and hundreds of viewers coming  we might have more than one ticket seller but do we have a lot of sports listed here and i don't know how many parents or other spectators attend do we have numb a large number of ticket sellers for each of these events it depends that we can't always fill these activities to parent volunteers might do them where we don't have the people who we hired to are approved to fill these if we don't have people there then we look for volunteers or parents and we don't necessarily have to pay someone if there's not the need for these are just we're just setting the fees in the event that we would have a need ok mrs smith in my experience like for instance field hockey