people think if they spend their money to  sixteen marketing is even careless or crooked and doesn't send the money to a mixed press and give people their magazines or whether it does except for the normal run of errors in a mas you have and then not with our knowledge you are no longer needed you are not authorized to sell our magazine at best you are a snob agent of the clearing house agents will call him and you were directed by the principal the you are not an agent any more questions where it is your own that indeed they accepted them afterwards you know your name as an agent as opposed to some slipper agent and you are not to sell their magazines period now you know if your point is they somehow accepted money because we managed to sneak it in the backdoor without them knowing it i don't one is and i would think coin world is entitle to the states who will accept subscriptions from and who we won't and if they want to stay we want to accept any orders from anybody's anymore but if they say this business generally takes people's money and doesn't send them to the magazine so people don't get there to rip can see just get ripped off and that's a false statement that it also hurt point is unless you force them to do it by sneaking in the back door and they don't catch you then put it that way and so you're telling your customers and you know context and those guidelines are long so when the principal says i don't care about him sneaking guidelines i'm telling you you cannot be our agent you think tough we can do it anyway well presumably the guidelines me ohio or someplace instead of being a new york publisher that does everything where everybody else does so what all that matters is whether they're lying about and i see marketing in a way that harms it it and there are two kinds of statements they make one is we don't want to do business with them i don't see any problem with that even if it's stupid and even if it's contrary to industry practice seems to me it's just like montblanc pens saying we only want classy stores to sell our pens we don't want to wal mart so they're right whether it's good idea or not the other kind of statement is these people are and toward your right to sell the magazines and i'm thinking this is like if seems warehouse or wal mart bought a whole lot of money tens from some distressed that upscale shop and then put an ad in the paper saying to that question and in fact consumer subscribers of quine world did complain in this time period before the subscriber alert in april of two thousand and one there were specific complaints from subscribers that they  again with i see marketing and your honor you ask questions about whether any press was some idiosyncratic publisher in sydney ohio it is instantly ohio but the record reflects many many other publishers have the same issues and same concerns with this marketing this age and i see marketing and all of their deviate which begs the question of whether or not they really are all that interested in their reputation as a legitimate easily and it looks like a bill from some service bureau for the magazine instead of an independence with a tazer of all true but i still want to know what's the evidence that they have the money is there anything besides affidavits with some subscribers  and national community services in nashville they were they want to prove authorised agent that that n c s did business with a group called publications of limited that mr that's mr khan's outfit in florida and mr kahn in his deposition which is in the records he says when confronted with these records that mr hurst and pointed out to you these this this notion from i c m that they had made  the point where it's there it is and it's your honor asked clearly in the context of this subscriber ork which is april two thousand and one if you put it in a context of what led up to that and really look at the framework of the the proper occasion upon which this subscriber or was published they had over one hundred complaints from the beginning of two thousand and one up until this point in time there are regular outside we don't have an antitrust case here you're right we do not have an interest and i'm thinking if they want to they can buy a bunch going worlds take out the subscription blanks go in with the person's name salvation is ever going to be authorized is that they're just close to us and i was that wasn't the case here with respect i see marketing and if they're just close they still have to follow certain terms that we've set on one price acting in a very old idiosyncratic method method because the record is clear from the biggest publishers like time magazine the other specialty publications in fact this court has in its pipeline right now two cases exchange mr simpson was using individual's name still fly under the radar screen l g pocket you know jim yes all these other names of the individuals again