everybody who wants to be in here in her thank you marshall is going to start us off right to include eating everyone so unified planning work program was briefly address in our previous four training sessions but but as sort of a organizations in the public on how we should invest public funds towards transportation and other planning programs in chipping county so some examples of project requests would be court ordered scoping  studies transportation related storm water planning land use planning assistance and also of variety of other technical assistance requests so after we receive all these project requests we about you pete pete committee that meets in january february march to kind of best decide how we should allocate our funds towards these projects so cord or studies of order studies involve this sort of comprehensive assessment of transportation and land use conditions throughout the length of the entire transportation corps so these include the development of vision and goals of conducting public outreach and really just also sort of looking to get more involved with quarter management planning in general so that essentially means we're going to be working more with the trance to coordinate and leverage investments by merging new improvement projects with traditional maintenance activities and one other thing to note is it's it's fairly common that after a quarter or study our recommendation would be to follow up with a more focused scoping study  support local livability so scoping studies of schooling studies and involved it is sort of a similar process but more focused and it ends in the selection of the preferred alternative and also with scoping studies we have this was called the purpose and need statement which essentially says the stage for the consideration of project alternatives so the purpose is really used to defined the transportation problem to be solved while the need is  essentially justifying what's driving the project so prior to to developing this this purpose and statement evaluate the existing in future conditions and then we use that statement to  something or is especially driven by technical issues and that if a community doesn't like the preferred alternative does it have any recourse to move that or is it going to be something where if they request a scoping study they could end up with an alternative that might be wholly unacceptable to the local legislative body and they wouldn't want to be put in the position of having to accept something that would kill them within their own turf i think i would guess i would say that you know  ability to oh absolutely i don't need to be clear and i think just to reinforce that you know for those of you that haven't maybe gone through the much detail like it really works when everybody is at the table through the entire process and when it doesn't work it's because one or more parties wasn't at the table through the entire process and wasn't on the same page and then we get into those situations that are there's a disconnect and you know happen that often that we don't agree you have by twelve years s one of the things i didn't mention is you know we're always trying to provide as many opportunities fossil for public input in the sort of scope of studies and also quarter studies so these are a few examples of the scoping studies that we've conducted they all typically focus on addressing a specific aspect related to the transportation system so for example the river bridge study took a look at alternative you can see much of what we do talks about infrastructure right we're trying to address the capacity issues the infrastructure issues let's not forget about the people of each make choices that impact how our system is functioning and there is a technique or is the campus area to get back one of the projects through the goshen county grammar was expanded their services beyond the hill institutions of the campus syria and into the county so we didn't need to go to the county brand anymore errors and all the while we're trying to align with the local local folks are doing with our regional vision so again the acting transportation plan is the regional vision are not looking at where sidewalks might you know your town but it's looking at the connectivity at that higher level and then at the local level we can help you figure out where the priorities are we can help a sidewalk in path planning site mention those big grant programs that we can help manage we can help you apply for grant so did a collection is a large part of what we do here at the r p c and really lays the foundation for successful planning it all scales that we marshall has this really talked about a big part of that obviously  transportation planning so turning movement counts and automated traffic orders are a large part of our summer internship program we hire about six hundred in terms of what they do and they do a great job it's a learning experience for them and they provide a lot of valuable data that really drive this issue making for us and in various studies we're also helping out individual towns better understand  location and quality of their municipal assets this is everything from pavement condition to locations and u t c compliance of signs we work with individual municipalities to kind of get a good understanding of the game plan as to exactly what we want to sort of look at and what the data would be used for and then we'll sort of carry out that inventory process throughout the course of the summer additionally is to complete the inventory of these roadways that do fall under this permit we have staff here also contributing to sort of the data management reporting and scoring of these individual roadway segments but addition to in addition to that the r p c is conducting scoping studies and concept plans for locations that have sort of risen to the top a sort of highest contributors of potential hires contributors to water quality  we then sort of take those products and assist towns in applying for grants for physical construction implementation of the sort of best practices and then we kind of come full circle  sri reevaluated things this process is you know change over the last couple years it will continue to change but it's very much a constant cycle of of working through these you know this permit and individual towns assets within it and  really numerous projects if you have any question about any of these projects is reach out to us to be topic to discuss so now we're shifting gears a little bit to address some common questions and we got them last session is how be up to speed on all the scoping studies that are going on in the community or if there is a quarter study or something like that that the m p o board member on this board should be at least an email loop think and you know my fellow board members can tell me i'm full of crap which i am but maybe not on this maybe we should be more actively involved in those communications as facilitators because most of us have good relationships with our boards and with our public works department sofar community as a public works department and sometimes i get surprised i didn't know christine was going to my board you know two weeks ago or something like that where as if i'm there because of our relationship as a conduit to the community we could maybe help facilitate this process a little or maybe i think maybe i'm expecting too much from people who sit in this board but you know maybe we should be more we should know when a staff member when charlie you're right you're going to the board and enough time so that it's not like two days before you do it so we don't have enough time to get prepared to be t if and if you know at least i would like to be able to call charlie to say ask christine or ask only me if they need help how's it going on this is or something that isn't hitting home or is there some disagreement about what the best alternative is on  study and you know is it on a state road or is it on a you know a town road and how much flexibility and latitude do we have is there something that the board member can do to talk to maybe the chair of the legislative body or a particular member of the legislative body that's got some concerns and we could try to help explain it or at least to facilitate a communication on that so it's more efficient not only for our m p o r p c staff but it's also more efficient on the town staff which five times out of ten unless you've got a public works you know director or something like that you know these folks are trying to be chief cook and bottle washer on a million things so are we miss opportunity every doing enough and if we are doing enough tell me to shut up i get to be interested to hear from other board members about because i think it's a good question because i think probably you staff maybe feels like we're protecting the poor members from getting sucked into conversation you may not want to be involved in but at the other hand maybe they were doing you a disservice by not having you in the communication maybe you're microphone how many people go with you when you show up or when you show up to talk about something or when you show up for when you guys show up or when you show up is it rare that a board member goes with you to those meetings or so i mean there's different levels we don't use them and we could we could do to the distribution list and you can have that information and you can decide if you want to just come and i mean we would have the option then we would we could investigate whether we would be helpful i guess if we so the projects and scoping study have a certain profile but then there's the other question of like the technical assistance activity yes you know so i guess the question is where that belongs and some things when they start you don't know how big it's going to get and it might be worthwhile being in the loop for those you may have an opinion as a board member who's not on the select board or city council because something started off as a conversation right it's not a official staff and and so i think we should at least be kept them praised for that because sometimes we can sometimes help us age the concerns of a staff member or or a town or village administrator  her manager or something like that if you know the reason is just that a staff member believe that their concerns were heard by the right person who needed to hear them it's a good rule that you know usually when we talk to our town staffs we go to the administrator the manager the chair of the board ok i think if before you would call amy or christine or anybody else on our p c m p o staff so the question was how does a transportation project becomes a project then you know the answer is in the various different ways like one way is like you know is there a community and that can be anything you know starting is there an issue with safety of an intersection or you know at the tulane rule highway or anything is there any issue with the capacity you have plenty of delays when an intersection the signal isn't working very well again that c because if this is the impetus of just starting a project and then also any of anything else like access to jobs how do we improve our support housing and that's the community needs a lot of the projects also come in and marshall talk about your management studies that we do a lot of those projects come through that process is when we look at their specific origin or an area we basically advice the issues with develop them they need more focused study and that's what we do in scoping or project the finishing as we call it now so scoping the project definition is the very beginning of the project development process and i put a flow chart here which is a very very simple nothing is simple in real life it's the usually very messy process but this is just basically to indicate that major steps in the project develop the process so federal funding projects to then you need to go through through you know scoping which is something that we do here fortune in the county and scoping again marshall talked about it you look at the issues you develop alternatives you develop a purpose a need and then at the very end you have a locally preferred alternative and that becomes the alternative that you move forward into conceptual plans once you do that then you start going through your environmental permit the environmental permit is the next step and again nothing is so clear cut but that's pretty much it approximately high this in a me jump in anytime you want to and then you moved into the environmental permit which is basically under you know you know you go through what we called lippo which is the national environmental policy act and once you start doing that and then you know that uses federal funding has to go very prescribed process and they're involved in lengthy process sometimes again depending on the complexity of the project and then once are all the permits are ready you have all of them you have if everything goes well you've got to construction so this is a very very simplified process i'm going to stop right there ian you know i ask if you have any questions this is the v transfer process the municipal proces to do it's ongoing legal disagreements but we started out of circulation study back in two thousand and nine and this was a study that really looked at the area in terms of its land use growth surrounding area the quarter of what it might look like there's just  if not you just proceed through oh ok oh the car goes across the shadow that's where it was hard to see ok and everything else coming off the off ramps well that's one signal eyes but if you're the other ones are revealed control didn't finish off with something that is finished yet so this is a cover project that we did this one was also about ten years from scoping to completion when sixteen cover it's that shows where the clover actually is was interesting for this is that preceded the scoping of this and we were also involved in a traffic analysis that looked at the impacts of closing the road so it was determined scoping that maintaining two lanes was not possible the alternatives looked at closing the road completely and maintaining one lane so it was decided to do a full picture of the roads closed for two months for those who have been or been through it had to go around it during the time that it was constructed in two thousand and seventeen i got a couple of pictures here this is tough picture is that before covered on the other side and the water just passed through a rock carrier in the middle and no one quite knew what was going on there they couldn't really get cameras down there to look at it it was partially blocked a lot of water quality issues but this bottom line is a beautiful culvert that was completed and interesting too there was an extreme bridge that was put in during the construction so that i can see to that pedestrians could continue to cross even though cars could not and then the last one we're going to talk about is also a complete project when six it's a sidewalk on one sixteen it connected lee drive to an existing sidewalk this is a study where some here to see how the town do an application for a bike grant brian was talking about that before so we were involved in this grant project process we were also municipal project manager bob franken sign worked on this project beautiful job of completing the cycle connection it meanders through kind of went in there very nice walk so that was being and i guess i just give anybody has suggestions about how helpful this was or feedback could be while not helpful it was for the people who came there you know we have a lot of new board members and so the board development committee which chaired by handy montreaux we kind of all thought that we needed to do this because m p o is a lot of alphabet soup too particularly to new board members and it's sometimes a good refresher  members and as long as we keep having turnover it's almost like we should repeat this every year and every year or every two or three years if we have to keep having  a little differently from each other and their relationship to the r p c probably changes a little bit town to town that's my sense i mean i'm just sort of feeling the elephant not really positive but that's my sense and so what  might require to jeff's point but you know if you're on the cell like board and you're sitting at this table that's a different thing than perhaps if you're a bigger town and there's a different kind or smaller town i don't know and then you have a representative so some of that's really hard to rep your mind around but i did find it really useful and i by liked the fact that some of the regular reps catherine pressed main into a commitment for the three meetings or because you said this is the way you got to do it wayne and i think that was really useful to know in that i had to i had to do this three times so thank you right we all call the commission the eating to order for november twenty eighth two thousand and eighteen because what we have one or not there yet next item is that we provide an opportunity for any member of the public to make a comment on any items that do not appear on the agenda is there anybody here who wish financial statements in accordance with the john accepted auditing standards it's also in accordance with government out of ng standards which are little more stringent requires a letter and review of the compliance with laws and regulations internal control at the financial state and what level and because you expended over seven hundred thousand dollars of federal funds it's also a single audit in accordance with now called the uniform guidance which is  consolidation of all of the various regulations and into one document so it really is a multi part document it will get submitted electronically to the federal government will be available on the clearinghouse website  becomes a public document that point in time and so the from our perspective our role is to provide the reports of the first report is on the financial statements and that indicates that your financials are in full conformance with generally accepted accounting principles that's a clean on modified opinion there's been no changes in the standards this year that affected the planning commission nothing i see going forward that will affect the pl commission big changes coming up in a number of years they want to revise all the standards in the methods of looking at things but that's a ways away so the i don't i'm sure you're familiar with most of the numbers i'm not going to go into that what i read and is management's discussion an analysis and that starts on page four and runs for five or six pages anyone who wants to get a good sense of what happened during the year can get it just in reading that as it's indicated it's written by management we we have to ensure that all the information there is consistent with what's in the audit that follows and that includes all of that acquired information and does so you get a really good sense of what happened there's some summary financial information and there's some narrative that talks about what happened there's a little bit of information about what's going forward so you can get quite a bit of information in just those six pages the the key page is the very last page and this is what the stage in the federal government will turn to when they get this report and it's the summary and what that indicates as i indicated is that the auditors reports on modified we had no findings we had no material weaknesses or significant deficiencies in internal control or no noncompliance findings related to the financial statements and in our audit of the highway planning construction funds which was the major program this year some of that is based on dollars spent some of it's a rotation of large programs of this is the program we tested this year we had no again no material weaknesses no significant deficiencies and our report on compliance was on thought unmodified which means that any and all of the various testing that we did we had no findings and what all that means is that the very last line is that because you've done this now for at least three years in a row you qualified to be what's considered a low risk oddity and what that means is that not only do you have the systems in place to manage federal funds but you prove you can do it over a long period of time and so that's an important distinction it indicates to the to the feds of to the state that you do have good systems in place and that that their function the weather supposed to be so it's nice to see that that is something they look at it takes years i don't there's any general questions or any specific questions themselves the the reduction rating was due to the centers that room place partly from beamers mostly from state teachers and state pension but all part of it and so what what the bond market is starting to look at is understanding that vermont has to really under funded their punch pensions the beamers is the highest funded it has the highest ratio and it's harvard somewhere between ninety percent it was it was down to i think eighty three and a half percent last year so it was high as ninety eight percent in twenty fifteen and so it's going to there's going to be fluctuations some of it's due to assumptions some of it's due to changes in mortality rates but over time it has been dipping a little bit so the answer is is that this will have an impact on already has on the bond rating because most of you borrow through the bond bank and their credit is based on the states credit we expect to see some some increase in borrowing costs as a result of the state not funding the pension this one is funded because they get the money from you any money that goes into those pensions from you mr pallet is in the various districts the teachers obviously and the state is funded by the state and that one has not been funded although the governor's indicated that he's going to use this year's surplus to put more money into it it will be a drop in a bucket and for this year there's also a huge liability that hasn't been discussed for postum one benefits financial obligation from that is small is small correct and based on everything that the actuaries have told us over in consistently is that at the current funding levels with minor increases eighth of a point here and there over the next number of years that there will be plenty of money in the beamer spawn to pay all liabilities for all retirees for as long as we can see and so this is one of the better funded and it has a minor impact on that rating but it's more  the state pension itself and particularly the teachers so but it shouldn't affect the the the assumptions and if you want to see more detail that page twenty that has more detail it actually has like the percent that is it's one of a three point six four percent one big thing just because there are these three big pension plans for the municipal the state employees and the teachers  and made reference to the health insurance the viewers is not how they help insurance the retirees i just want to make sure people are clear on that if i might i think it's only the pension fund that has helped our benefits so it escalates and need to get into that but i just was concerned about an unrecognized financial i know that would already have to be recognized if you had it and you don't so it's not in here now there are a few minutes a pal of yours that do but that's rare or any other issues that could that no i don't i don't see anything in fact you know i don't frankly think that the beemer should be on your books at all either because it's something you have no control over you're paying what you're supposed to pay it's funded disposed but yet it had an impact this year reducing your total equity by about two hundred sixty seven thousand and so it's a liability that shows up on your books but you can't change it you're doing what you're supposed to do but they can come  as an employer we're over contributing and so we've kind of made a deal with our staff and we myself that any additional contributions will be picked up by the employee so it's a little more nuance for us wri it again it's always an important accomplishment to come through the audit process as well as we do and that doesn't happen by x and of course it's the hard work of staff particularly forest and bernie and all the staff and their work on the financial systems that do this and i think that they are to be commended on another year of a clean audit and though it doesn't sound real sexy to be able furred to as a vendor because we put this out the bit and we asked the vendor to rotate or accountants and auditors to come through sure that everything was above board and accounting for they've they've been extremely responsive to all the concerns that the members of the finance committee have had about making sure that you know we're doing everything with the people's money properly above board and transparently and so i i want to personally thank that our vendor on this we've had a long term relationship with them and he willingly went through a four of the process last time that we that we retained his firm and he's been very responsive to all basically bicycles that's available for the public to use right find a bike you walk into it do it every need to do hop on it ride where you want to go drop off the bike and you're done what makes it work is the number of bytes of stations or leaving it somewhere out it's it's a bike it's heavy it's clunky get you around and then you get worried to be and you've got a slanted back in the dock works wildly successful set the stage for the next iteration by sharing which is  s smart by social bicycles took the technology out of the docking station and put it on the back of the bike which you can see there now we're able to use regular bicycle racks and expensive and track all the bikes where they go and that provides us a lot of data we know how far people are writing how long they're on the bike where they're going on how many times that use a system how many calories they're burning dollars there's a lot of  the most current iteration of bike sharing is the talk list systems i'm sure you've heard of companies mostly coming out of china but we also got some of the u s now where you don't need any racks or stations there are just bikes everywhere which is very very very quickly when we started our process with this spike doc was wasn't even i think that's how fast things are happening scooter's morning thing until this year so it's really full steam ahead a little bit of history about our current system that we have here in two thousand and eleven there were a group of floater before us including myself some city staff local motion reporter some campus representatives that we went up too much real to thinking wow that is super duper expensive crazy expensive because all the tech is on the docks very dark heavy still very new even in two thousand and eleven seven years on so he's all right but should be the timeline it's changed three times the lot but the key direct bike you've got to bring it back there and you have to take your key so there's a little bit of human touch necessary there's a little bit of time limit if someone's not staffing the table at that time you don't get to ride the bike  but it functions when it's open but there is a desire with the bad and you're the reason planning commission that especially recognizing what's happening across the world and our country that this can work here we're progressive we know by sharing the work here so when october to a sixteen we put out an r f p and selected got your bike as a preferred vendor there out of south carolina so they build their own bikes and they use social bicycles working correctly users can reported the issue it's something drawn at the bike buttons on the back they can save a flat tire something's wrong hadley doesn't work it brings it back in and we can get that fixed right away and the contract with gosh if i could help my capital and as you know as stated their mission that i got ahead of myself and this is why we started we want to provide a transportation option to get around an affordable convenient destination for people to get around and it would accomplish all those things can more great things about these will be going to the smart play says those having everything right here on the bike with the ability to have all of the brains of the system right here on the bike it makes things very easy for users they can go right up to the system enter in their account and pin number right here on the back of the bike and utilize this lock system so these you locks are very versatile they can be locked up both are green right siste hubs as well as basic bike racks as well around town the basket on the front with some safety information for anyone to really see see the information and training from our friends by plume cloth blue cross blue shield in the front there kept our seats they are rustproof so they can really withstand the elements out there which is a great option especially around here as we've seen over the past few weeks it's nice to not have to worry about having our bikes out there  do have our operators on the ground who are responsible for going out helping clear off some of the snow and ice but these things are very sturdy bikes like i mentioned kept our seats and you lock smart locking system and computer in brains of the bike right in the back here nice and light bikes well as well we move them frame right around forty pounds for those very nice versa tile sturdy b think so that is the bike obviously you guys have probably seen around town we have them currently branded with both ben and jerrys and seven generation or two title sponsors the hubs themselves you guys have probably seen these around town on their regular you rack system very flashy with a nice green branding on there each of that is either a free standing sign or we can actually put  local building or structure around any of our hubs as well the signs themselves included local maps and system information as well some of our sponsor branding on there is well the great thing about utilizing a smart  bike is that these hubs can move around and we also have the ability to geo fence virtual of us as well so if we have any sort of special events going on around town or we want to designate a specific area we can actually go in on the back and virtually geophones an existing a public bike rack and it then becomes a green ride bike share rack and there are none of the fees associated with locking the bikes or leaving the bikes outside of one of our hubs so a lot of versatility there are current phase this is a little map of our system at the moment in place for phase one we have one hundred five bikes on the ground and seventeen hovers around town this is a little bit seasonal as we come into the winter we're still sort of finalizing our winter plan this will be our first winter for the system so as we go as the weather continues we will be pulling some bikes out of the system as well as a couple of the hopes are ben and jerrys  downtown is already out of place and we're currently running with sixteen for the winter months so that's sort of an ongoing process figuring out how the bikes and the will play out throughout the year and we again like brian mentioned we have these hubs both in burlington sell burlington and when you see our main focus with our system that we have any place we really are trying to push this for residents commuters and employees we are really looking to make this a local commuter option and the great local sustainable transportation option for residents obviously there are there is a lot of tourists used during the summer months but our main focus with this program is really trying to push towards a sustainable transportation option for locals looking ahead to some further phases we are in the process of working our way through our second phase which will roll out this upcoming spring with the second with face two and then to head to face three our second phase are looking at moving up to somewhere around twenty five pubs but the implementation of a few more like spring us to around two hundred bikes or face to eventually looking ahead to face three we're looking at around three hundred b at four the five hopes the big goal of this program is to make it a regional system it's very easy for a lot of people to say the burlington bike share program we don't like that we don't like that name because we really are trying to make this a how much does it cost this is a little breakdown of our cost so you can see we have multiple membership options and payment plans as well as our quick trip option so if that user is coming up they don't want to sign up for a monthly or annual plan they can walk up to one of the bikes you can reserve both online or through our app get into a little bit more detail than just a second it's two dollars to unlock the bike and then you're paying five dollars every thirty minutes after that first thirty minutes of the two dollars unlock for a quick trip or monthly an annual memberships the monthly is fifteen dollars a month that enable fifty dollars a month that also gets you sixty minutes of free ride time a day so again as we are really trying to push this towards locals as a commuter option looking towards those monthly an annual plan is a great option for people getting to and from work if they're getting off the bus and need to go to the grocery store you name it and with those plans like we said sixty minutes of free ride time per day  members as well how does it work the nitty gritty it so there are like brian mentioned there are a couple ways that you can get yourself access to these bikes if you don't have a smartphone you don't have access to a computer you can actually sign up for one of the payment plans through our part that old folks home you can also sign yourself up for either a quick ride wore one of our payment plans by the site or you can utilize this so be the social bicycles app on that so be happy to give you a map that will show you where all the bikes are in our system you can reserve a bike through there or you can simply walk up to a local where you have some bikes of bail once you have signed up for either a quick trip or one of the payment plans you are given  a account number and a four digit pin a four digit pin just go right in the back into our computer system right on the back of the bike the it releases the you bar you can on lock it from the hub and then you're ready to go once you are out and  riding with these bikes also have a cold option which is a great option for people who may be biking around want to stop for a cup of coffee or you still is finding a place to lock the bike hold and it gives you half an hour of time to go inside grab a cup of coffee whatever it may be and that does count towards your total right time as well when you're finished with your ride we highly encourage people to return the bikes back to one of our actual hubs but you do have the option of also locking the bikes to a bike rack outside of our hubs there is a fee for and out of and then also a charge if you and you're right outside of our system map as well so we do highly encourage people to return them to our  like we said with that hold option it gives people a little bit of freedom if they are biking around want to grab a cup of coffee pop into a shop because it has a little bit of versatility for their rides going into some details on what we've seen so far so our system once was in mid april since then we have had close to right around five hundred eighty seven active members throughout the past six months close to nine hundred thousand calories burned our average  ride time is right around eighteen minutes the average distance is one point seven eight miles some of the great thing with these systems use utilizing suvi is through our backend we can pull a lot of data out of each individual bike  which helps gives us gives us a really great picture of how the system is doing and where certain bikes may be in any problems that we may see that may arise in the system can all be accessed right through or backend that image on the right there that is a heat map which we can access through our backend as well which kind of gives us a live play on how the bikes are moving around the system and as you can see really happy to see these bikes are really being utilized almost everywhere in our system map you can see almost perfect layout of the city grid even some people come on out to the airport as well which is great to see them so we've been pretty happy with the system so far there definitely is some room to grow but we have been pretty trips with this data in the back and as well we can also look at how our hubs are being utilized so we just pulled some of the statistics from this past summer looking through june to august as you can see a lot of usage down at the waterfront and disperse a little bit through the college campus and some downtown as well so this is showing where bikes were leaving from and where they were returning to so as you can see on that right side of the waterfront that was a lot of leaving from the waterfront returning bikes back to the waterfront or other hubs had a lot more traffic going to and from other of those as the students have come back as you can see that changes a little bit a little bit less usage on the waterfront and with you being able to look at all these numbers we can sort of track as the year goes on where are the bikes ending up it can really help us look into the health of our publications which will be a really key player as we're looking towards our second phase of valuating our current house that we have in the system and looking ahead to implementing more of this being some of our current homes around a lot of these numbers are very very helpful for some of these studies a lot of questions around bikeshare are always floating around there the big one is always helmets and safety safety is obviously a really major concern for all of us in the mobility in transportation industry it's sort of been a head scratching question for all the bike share program is out there we are looking forward to trying to do some partnerships with the possibility of some local shops any time people sign up if we're ever having a membership drive and people are signing up we're handing out free helmets i'm so we're definitely looking for some ways to improve our safety standards with bike share just a little bit more education and just getting some more homes out there on the hills being on a big hill a lot of the bikes it's really easy to take a bite from the top of the hill cruise down towards the waterfront when you turn back around look back up the hill some people choose to take another form of transportation so as we're looking ahead to some of these  future visas sound that's where we really see the aegis system bikes coming into play to have a healthy system that can rebuild itself as opposed to having members out there spending time rebalancing the bikes themselves just last in april so we want to have enough time to gather some data not only over the summer months but also when students are back so tool designed group is one of our prequalify consults all of them today to go over the dress code and talk about some of the things that we really want to make sure the covering of the stations in the right place how many more bikes to be what's the usage look like where the positive measures are being so and so on so that will be taking place over the next couple months i expect that to take very long  yes so looking ahead to these expansions i gotcha our partners downs in charleston they are just going the final touches on their east scooters i'm so they have built their own personally scooter from the ground up  which is quite different from a few of the other brands out there very sturdy scooter that is an electric scooter as well so there is the option of rolling some of the scooters out in the future faces there's obviously a lot of question marks that come around  the talk of scooters so there are still some some planning pieces and some question marks around the scooters and how they go into the system going for the great thing with the gotcha system is that as the are looking ahead to systems come around spring everything will be centralized right through a gotcha act so they will no longer be using this so we cater systems of wall to utilize right through one  gotcha so if there are multiple transportation options on the ground and ten people can go right through one out they can see where the bikes are they can switch over to see where the scooters are so it really makes it very user friendly home to just centralize that whole through one one application we're really looking for by machine about the right for all program it's a sort of big passion project for myself i just came on board for this is some sort of mid october  doing a little bit more work behind the green room for all and our equity programs is a little bit of a passion project for myself and we're really looking to sort of expand both education and some of our outreach to you know really get this system health and so i had read about because the chicago they have this summer type of program and we applied for a state council on physical fitness grant i love that program here so basically we're going to try to find a network of doctors who are willing look just a little bit more about the finances because it sounds like private sector sponsors got things going i didn't you talked about a grant i don't think was out of public sector grant i'm just trying to see  to cover the costs for doing the goal ultimately is to have enough ridership to support the system take a little while to get there it was private sponsor dollars that got us off the ground however you get medical center that you're going to have towns towns will need to support this i'm not saying it's not worth supporting it sounds like pretty good stuff but where it would you suspect that it's ultimately going to continue to need to be sort of subsidised to keep going a follow up question are there examples of bikes or programs that are self sustaining terms of revenue from writers there within the gotcha system luckily they've had a lot of we've got a lot of great aapc universities obviously you universities are a little bit smaller scale they're really only implementing those systems and really putting money into those systems during school months when they know about things and kids around it at a university  so scaling that up to mean a school systems bike ride at this level especially with the utilization of the smarts like said on this scale as of right now we're hoping some of these studies that we're rolling out right is a three year lease with gotcha that was a little over two hundred thousand dollars at the time three years and each year you joe was sure that was off the top my head so i looked at it enough but a little over half a million dollars for the three years percent twenty percent high for you know one percent off the top of my head i can tell you exactly what the writer really we do the best and so we like the financing part of it is interesting because gotchas the private company and they get to see all that stuff and  question is is it reasonable to think that we could get to some kind of stabilized financial model in five years ten years three years ok so five years from now for sitting river here i also wanted to ask you had a data point for the pounds of carbon dioxide that had been juiced is that actual measurable people chose to ride the bike supposed to take the car i mean how are you measuring this of that is that is calculated through so be it take those numbers sort of calculating the mileage versus both ridership think it's sort of the metric on both take your place the bus won't to you and i look at it it's kind of adjunct to the whole public transit system and it all has it's you got to get from where you are at least to where the dock is for the most part whether it's a bus stop or a bike we had to get the specs on the ground so you know we are going to study will help us for a specifically where i read this additional stations can go so having doubling the fleet of bikes and adding stations people choosing to accept that five dollars or we may choose to drop it out you know a dollar i think the unspoken stuff here because i made the bad joke to start the conversation out tonight but it's so if you're going to be seen as a modern city modern community there are people that will choose to live there or go to school there work there do whatever based on whatever it is that they feel they need this is this kind of thing is becoming very usual in big modern places that people actually want to live in the we're going to have to meet doesn't of vanity of just be one of the options that people look for when they make bigger decisions which actually adds to the economy so this is a i'm really happy to see that we've jumped on this bandwagon i think it's just the way the future's going to be nineteen which as we learned earlier is but a i will be dead moment in time because your transportation overview take a lot of your time because we're still at the very beginning of this study we're actually in the midst of trying to procure a consultant at the moment so we haven't really started but it's going to be a figure beginning so so just to remind all of us why we're doing this study you saw this slide like last year when we were developing our metropolitan protection plan numerous times but this  is what we came up as our twenty fifty m t p investments so one of the recommendations out of the n t p was actually to just conduct a study a corridor as well as some scoping elements with this that corridor study for the id nine corridor and we were thinking back then between exits twelve and sixteen but through discussions with the trans we actually decided to look at the entire area so you saw this slides too i just left them here because it's kind of an interesting way of looking at it this is more the ring outputs that we did last year last year yes it was last year and so these see here is basically congestion so this is a roadway capacity in the more likely urban core of the county and yellow is indicates very light congestion and goes all the way to purple which is very this is our twenty fifty base and what they mean by plod is that if we don't do any transportation investments in twenty fifty but we still have the growth in population problem and which brings more tr vestments you know not only for the interstate for the for the whole county so one of the investments was to actually have a third lane of the interstate between fourteen and fifteen and plus a number of other investments we had investments in public transportation in t d m in bike impaired we increased all the other modes to the degree possible but we still needed to do this but when we do that this is our n t p investment so on the first light of day show you that's why this study this i eighty nine study is basically so important we just need to take a much closer look and much more detailed look about what's going on and whether the rim if occasions of doing you know the different kind of like improvements so overall our goals for this is basically first we're going to look at we're going to assess and evaluate the current conditions of the on the corridor as well as inter changes within the county are going to look at the bunch of different things and it's just you can see there that this is just a partial list by the way i couldn't put all of them there so we're going to do that for the current conditions and we are hoping to develop an implementation plan that is going to have multi model you know strategies and we're hopefully it's not going to be your long term and capital in you know investments only we would like to as we move forward which going to be plenty because we have one lot of modeling marker a level in micro level micro simulations and we're running the original model we are going to have an advisory committee to provide overall guidance policy guidance and oversight and as you can see the membership of that committee the advisory committee is very diverse so we're going to have fun so the study to get their input and basically get their comments on alternatives and of course we're going to have our general public meetings and workshops so it is a public participation process the first step is done we advertise for a letter of intent in the statement of qualifications pretty widely and that was back in september the selection committee actually selected for and we are the proposals are due next week friday and the selection committee set the meeting up today so we are meeting in december twentieth and we my don't mind not class the talk to consultants to come for interviews we're going to have to decide so we're really hoping that we're going to have a contract awarded by february and want to go to the tac in february with a recommendation so that's a very brief  overview of what we're doing and we're going to be coming back to you on a regular basis and giving updates on all this for our work program this is the biggest project work program not not just this year but probably for the next two fiscal years and so i get the one thing just to know to have that in the back of your mind that it may end up depending on the cost proposals we get from these evy trans is really committed to being a partner on this and you know it's not just the r p c go study that will see what happens but we're really doing it together and it also i think expanded the scope a little because we probably got into some some of the asset management things that you know the trans is concerned about about you know one of the going to have to replace the subways of eighty nine which is something i hadn't thought about but you know that road is probably getting pretty close to fifty years old and you know they're having to repave it or do some sort of resurfacing every day or like every six years i think and so so there was just kind of a like interesting dynamic and so i think this will be a little  a little broader scope and more holistic and i think reflecting some some evolving philosophy of the trends about haywood if we're going to go in and fix something if it's for maintenance maybe we can improve it at the same time is where the system is breaking down rounds of no news to anybody and so the question of can we improve exit fourteen or is there something that needs to happen and there you see like the exit twelve b i think we  put into the plan as a placeholder but fourteen and which is something the airport recommended which is you know can kind of a new partial interchange i think that would just kind of go over to the airport parkway which is very close there on the south side of that is whoever also had the same kind of positive regional you know traffic benefit in terms of relieving traffic at exit fourteen so if there's a lot to look at there and there's certainly a lot of other issues in towns as we go out to the to the ends to so stay tuned you'll hear more but you know this the first few months are probably just going to be you know data gathering and things like that so i expect probably next fall is really where we start to have some conversations about what the future might look like and it's our megan i look at you a lot because i surprise a lot of this happens in south burlington for better or worse but hopefully we get to the best possible outcome we have to start this conversation now to have any ideas to what might realistically be feasible at some point in the future but we're not talking about major improvements in the near term this is really a long term projects i just want to stress that with all of you that go in with your eyes wide open you know as soon as this probably hits the press we're going to start seeing people rising up in voicing opinions about even studying it and looking at it and so is this goes on we'll get a bunch better sense of what kind of opposition support that kind of thing for even looking at capacity and talking about potential improvements just so everyone realizes this is really in vision is a really long term but we have to start the conversation we can if we don't start now we're just postponing the reality that we're going to have to look at this in some point so that's why we were willing to jump in and we're providing some additional funding to support the effort as well  which is we are sure to get that response and i think this is going to force us to focus on well what it what's actually happening there isn't enough volume for that segment to really be over capacity but what's really happening is they can't get off c interchange right so that it's route two is where the issue is and so we're going to have to think through those and that's why i get i guess i may be fast forwarding more than i should be but i definitely am but that's why i like about their additional interchange is not about you know providing more capacity it's really providing more alternatives to get around the core of our region so but that's going to be very tough conversation that he's goes through with that yeah what is the interface between this process and other interstate related projects that are already sort of in the  is this going to affect mayor made i have no idea what the answer is is this going to affect the timeline that would otherwise apply to these are state related projects that are already in the pipeline i think we're starting off with the assumption we would hope not another letters like the something unusual comes out and says oh there's a better answer that wasn't thought of when we just look at that spot but we're this is as luck would have it the trans and consultants presented to the wilsons like border earlier this week i wasn't there i watched it online and they were talking about we have a number of circle target of projects related to exit twelve and there was some discussion about pulling back a bit in light of some more system wide analysis about what's going on so which may very well the responsible thing to do but i was just curious as to how these all sort of fit together that way i mean we need to think a little bit more about that but you know my thought right now and maybe will change is that you know the ones that there are however for instance there is a bike pead connection that was planned underneath the interstate bridge and additional lane short of doing the whole e twelve bit and that was originally intended to be something that was going to be relatively quick especially with a parking right plant on the south side of the exit anybody's been by their nose at their i mean people kind of pick their way through the weeds with cars going by both ways it's not it's not an optimal situation at all right now so so it's not i mean i understand completely you're not going to go ahead with whatever the doubled the verging type in process or entertain it until this whole process is done but i hope that there are other elements that were part of the on the interstate because i would think they're going to be the linchpins obviously if you build a bridge new bridge and then five years later you want to expand a lame if a study where is your look at it and say we just put all this money to this bridge go away  so you really need to actually build bigger infrastructure prior to adding lines i'm assuming that's all part of all  associate i think since our last meeting although carol quite remember we advertised so we had a fiscal assistant or finance assistant sorry who  replaced but we are we are going to we are going to manage through the change and so we're interviewer right does it just an update that we're you know the process of with for the work but we're set up meetings to just kind of talk about applications and help towns you know partly it's helpful for us to know what might be coming our way and but secondly and more importantly to help the towns you know kind of sift through what to apply for and if we can help them with the application so if you feel like there is something that we should be on the radar for your town please let us know if you think when you're safa talking to us or tell them to let thought maybe we'd have a few extra minutes and i am not sure how if you feel like we do have a few extra minutes or not you know it's only momentarily that i get a little bit of input since the timing has worked out pretty  well and so this is the general layout that we've gone through for the legislative breakfast how many of you are going to able to make it so if you're not sure you've already answered yes he probably got an e mail from  the circle of prosperity and how important it is to continue to invest in ginning county go through some data that will these aren't all updated yet but you know smart growth we're doing well there the building homes together we've got second year data that needs to be added in here and then there's a few slides that we've kind of more stolen some things not stolen we're partnering with g b i see this  replace that nurse that's a lost job but it's not because of economic weakness necessarily so this is part of the reason why we got also got downgraded our lousy demographics and we don't have enough people to fill the jobs that are out there know which i don't know that we haven't really focused on enough maybe on the aging cohorts this again need to be updated but you know sixty two percent of the job growth has been  specific stuff again this is a little bit old so we can update it with where we ended up with the m t p this was pretty close it was too much feels like too much stuff like we're going to be pounding yeah with too much data yes so what i did last year or so what we did since we all own this together now as we did take that data stuff and just have it as a separate handout this you know you're going to do surveys you have to interpret the data is telling you just the data without an interpretation really it's a not going to get into the modeling results but will probably just let them know that this eighty nine study is coming then the water quality funding i don't think we'll see have different thoughts of the story has changed too much still a pending issue for the legislature this just started to add this  so the commission on back to fifty is coming out with some recommendations later in well two weeks and so we'll see with unfortunately have been this practice before the recommendations come out i don't know it seemed to work ok for me to run through at least more time for discussion just give frank the opportunity on the slides sensei's or anything that you want to they will make more of a value proposition about like we're doing more for the state and have an increase here they had some special money for water quality and energy in particular energy is and did the energy sector energy dollars so i think i would want them to be aware that they're going to hear requests from our pc's for some additional funding  we make sure that we don't some things that somebody can dismiss easily because we don't know what we're talking thank you give us a little update on the dispatch  and then we kind of ended with some resources i don't i don't think i spent any time on this other to say but there's some links here yeah exactly we're here there's data we have maps you know transportation land use water quality stuff and we'll update this on some of the current things they're working on some ways the water quality would probably say the same transportation but some of the other things will update  so the policy issues were really kind of transportation of vestment water quality investment maybe some increase investment in the seas to help with doing those things including energy also  nice thing about being in china carries it so close to vermont you know in that sense is very much there in the legislature and it has some funny perceptions about you know how all the money goes to the county you know we don't often talk about how much money comes from the county and so part of this i think is trying to get our legislators anough information to you know have some healthy discussion and state house where those y monies were as we had some raw data earlier about how much personal income tax and all that kind of stuff it's almost it's almost more instructive to say this is what we account for as a percentage of the total in this how it compares to some benchmark like with eight point nine percent of the population but we contribute thirty five percent right personal income tax something that demonstrates that we make an outside current contribution without beating too hard because then people turn her and say well that's because you know your chipping county the only place where wages are decent is up there just because of where you are right i mean of course we all know this what the response to that is if you want to have the funds to invest in the rest of the state to bring it up you can't be cutting your nose off to spite your face of the wise we're just all fighting for crumbs from a smaller class size and i understand but they don't understand that thirty five miles down the interstate other any other issues or thoughts i do think to the point of other people there is room i think here for if one of the towns wants a poke at a lot of these issues you know  we know if you'd like to or we've invited the psych ward chair or city council chair and and your town manager administrator so if you think one of them wants a poke at on one of these issues just to emphasize do we we have the end of the m p o and the r p c still get it but there's different functions and different funding sources so maybe instead of you got water quality bike then you get into energy mix of transportation not want to make sense but the transportation so it kind of lets the legislators know if they don't know that we do delve into all these different think i'll give this like fifteen minutes so that there is at least twenty something for conversation hopefully you'll see that when i wrote i run away from the why did you pick it up any other thoughts or issues that you feel like we should bring up with the legislators that are maybe issues happen in your towns of these issues are touching  a breakfast table or anything so really i would spend a lot of time making sure we're not conflicting it was great because someone showed up at our breakfast