nutshell we had applied for and received a musical planning grant last year to help us look at the districts in town and specifically in the flats in the center and then there's areas that are we took a look at those as a as another part of this project so we were going to start in the center since that's where we're at tonight but since you're from the flats maybe what we can do is start there sure supplemental district standard for the week basically applied a new development and those are a lot of those who do sign to make it more pedestrian friendly especially in the event that a sidewalk goes in because that's the kind of parallel planning process you get a sidewalk so and the boundaries are down looking at this we actually find two districts right now the whole thing is one district it's all part of the there's the there's the underhill sensing flats the village center just stripped which used to be called the residential district and it kind of shaped like a fan and that was based on the original water district boundaries and then surrounding that was the three acre or rural residential zone so we've proposed to break two of that out of the residential and part of it out of the rural residential zone and that's what's represented here and i apologize my printer broke this morning so this is kind of an old maps of the year that boundaries are a little bit difficult to see but that's what this is only not as pretty you have so this one doesn't show the current but again the red is the village center district under a flat and then yellow is the building presidential because we're going in there we did we did a couple of things we actually the syrian army less than a year you know so part of the this is to make the lots in the village more conforming so you don't have to go through hoops to just put editions on things like that and again to also recognise historic development pattern in that area and we also so we looked at we did a lot of experience we looked at lot areas we looked at coverage you know what extent buildings covered and parking areas covered it the municipal boundary more compatible so the perp poe's who is to reduce the lot size in the village to a quarter of an acre and again how it reflects what jericho actually makes all but maybe five or ten parcels forming for existing within that and again in the village center there's not a lot of change in the proposed future as it's more just a lot size in the d fit into the village in terms of creating one acre most of those are big makers there are less than the three acres owning minimum but they're a lot more than an acre or a quarter acre so we ended up suggesting in the pl commission is suggesting that we create another village residential district which is more strictly residential so there are some changes in the uses in that district to more reflect it's residential car pattern within those areas and then in that way and make the lots in the structures there are more conforming and allow for infill that's compatible you know there isn't a lot of development potential and well there's more in the in the village because of water and under house and we're proposing to drop it from five acres to a half acre there they are different here in the center know i have a question does the water district serve everything in the yellow i know that their district boundaries have gone well beyond the red and there are at least some that are on the water district in the yellow but i don't have that not everybody there might not be i don't i know that they have a tower that's right about at the limit of our propose foundry but how far east it extends i don't have their exact foundries yeah so there's some room for infill along there if you can i mean the state septic still applies that limits density in the village districts right now too but there is a question about put up there and also based on the order the photo that shows where the approximate true line and yeah yeah so it's it was just basically taking a rough estimate of where to go across his property but his proposals in the past have been to calve more dense development down below and have more large not more about larger lots of the hill so his the last time i spoke with him he wanted to essentially stop develop lot a little bit and then have market rate lots up here and that would be in the proposed one acres own in the yellow here and then everything below would be more for the denser development  how parts of it are very flat no actually the flood plain has not been designated there it's actually on the other side of the ridges going the other but if there are where there is a me whenever he would come in for development all that would still be taken into consideration under the regulations he'd have to address and again the quarter acre would definitely allow for a higher level of development there but it's still tied to what he can do  committee i have been on some of that subcommittee and i'm involved with safe routes to school and a lot of think a lot of little projects that have been looking at improving mobility walkability and by being in the air and think my understanding of kind of what happened to that is it's sort of in a way i mean there's a phase about a project that's down and that there are currently active small groups still from that because there was  application through safe routes to school basically kind of to carry out some of the changes that were proposed from the air he thinks i think there are a lot of these little i think the good news is that people are invested in improving our community i think living so close to is definitely knows about the small infrastructure proposal but anyway i think there's lots of room for having already heads in the right place and using resources foam gretchen i'd like to invite you to come to our next meeting keeps out that the parking in the village would go to the sign or the rear buildings even new commercial buildings instead of being right up front yeah it was interesting marking when we were trying to do set back measurements we did the fire i had asked for people to r s v p for that one but please feel free if you if you're a if you think of anything that you want to add to this please feel free to come to that because well i'm just trying to be educated so you know these are zoning changes  the other larger portion of the redistricting project is looking at the center and i don't know if you can see that but the existing center is all five acre up to half conforming there were two areas that we work sure about and those are the areas that kind of have this dotted line around them and that's at the far and if you're coming up river road into the center and then at the other had were these a couple of parcels i'm sorry to see that got a couple parcels that are up on stevens well road that are just past the river so this would be the extent of it and the proposal is to reduce the minimum acreage requirement to half an acre it does include the school we use the school as a boundary marker and then follow the center line of the river and then the rear property lin there were some concerns that were raised about water in this area not just supply but over supply if you will so those were concerns that we are you know thinking about but  mainly this was again to bring the lots into a conforming nature and it's it's opening up some possibilities for again putting on small additions and things like that without having to go for d review it's not necessarily to encourage subdivisions or anything in this area area there are also some more natural constraints so there's the river and the boundaries of the the setback requirements for that there are also quite a few offshoots of the river that go through the center here so there are there are different set back requirements that you'd still have to be met that would start to be met there also floodplain areas and there restrictions for development there so  while this is intending to make it easier for the existing lots to develop in a in a way that makes sense the same restrictions would still apply as if this district was not there you know that the conditions of that area that are yours are just not good for accepted and you know that because of history or just looking around because it's so wet or something oh yeah i've been a builder  has taken over all of the septic responsibility so it's pretty much uniformly done when to say i mean  you get an engineer but it has to meet big they had to write the state rules have to be met you have to go through the state review process in order to get a septic permit it's no longer handled locally we also understand that there are areas in the in the center that have a high water table so that would be a restriction as well it's going to be site specific in this area we are aware of that but again this is not to encourage such things as subdivisions it's more you know allowing people to develop their existing laws by additions and things like that but it didn't even it didn't even guarantee those because if you want to force bedroom to your a state responsibility well there were recommendations in there some in fire mel studies too that at some point there may be some interest in putting you know water supply system here but all of that would take buildings or closer together at some point he makes it a lot cheaper just so the outliers if you're looking at this one right here the areas outlined in red are currently pockets of soil water conservation district which means that that's a fifteen acres zone surrounded by three acres of and those are based on the original soils maps that were used to create the districts in the seventy's and have not been updated we looked at the existing  natural features in the areas such as well as flood plains natural water courses things like that we also got some input from the conservation commission who was part of a larger study looked looking at wildlife habitat orders in the area and actually they found that there weren't any significant habitat corridors that would be affected by removing these districts so the proposal is actually to just dissolve those boundaries into the three acres because again those areas that are surrounding it are three acres out of this one you'll see especially on the lower part it really just in compass is poker hillgro that much of the parcels themselves same for the one in the middle and the one up on hillcrest we assume is probably a hill and it just got picked up in the soils maps that way  so the proposal is just to eliminate those it would be changing anything in terms of district requirements or things like that those parcels are already developed so essentially it's just enough will not change in this round the reason we only looked at these  three well again we thought that once we got through this round of redistricting that there would be a phase two where we would look at similar districts and their boundaries to make sure that they make sense  i know correct but these are the pockets that seem to make the most sense to eliminate immediately because they are not useful and for the persons that are affected by them again they're already developed and these are so small ok we've got one last one to talk about and that's really a boundary changes sharon mentioned and this one was brought to our attention by or steam colleague here but what we wanted to do was look at the existing district boundary with the ethan allen firing range so that would be  and it just kind of stay that way so we looked at that and it seemed to make more sense to make the line with that that the firing range consistent so instead of having these tiny pieces that went back and forth we decided that the soil and water conservation district boundary would and at the northernmost boundary of the range so there would be one area back here where the soil and water conservation district kind of went along the back of these properties that's proposed to be removed that's right on the district line or that's right on the town line at the rear of the properties for these people the rest of the districts won't change except to be going to that line in the one couple of parcels along the boundary with the range here which are all which all have their town road addresses they would all be in the soil and cans conservation so summer they would all be in the water conservation district rather than partially in both and then it would end at this person here which is currently a wood block there would be no other changes as a result of that it is doing is kind of cleaning things up so that really what you call something or is there some ramification of that iowa understand well essentially what it is what we're doing is for some reason it affects the bears have properties quite a bit because you saw a water conservation district kind of judge it into the back of the properties and kind of split them sort of and essentially made what would be conforming lots non conforming so that put them in a difficult situation even though they all developed in conforming knots with the water conservation district so and also these properties here again they had some of those jagged pieces that would just go in and out and make lots non conforming sort of you know portions of the lot would be ok for the for the main district but a little piece of that would go into it and make it suddenly not for  make a whole lot of sense so this is essentially just saying you know what the ethan allen firing range looks like the what should be the boundary for that district and there i'm sorry to make that clear and also these slots what the way that they historically developed they were more conforming with the larger district than the so on water conservation district anyway thank you for that if we have just picked boundaries that are easier to civs spot on the ground i e if they follow naturally boundaries like with the river or personal boundaries it just makes enforcement step back requirements building permit conditions those kinds of things it just makes it so much easier and easier to explain to property owners as well would you say that and if it if at some point this these questions talk all i hear you just got to tell me likelihood is that it's that it is encouraging or setting things up for more development more against the floods and basically behind where you live yeah that's what  while quarters on in the village it could be in park or playground or right  me that a lot of discussion about lower income housing in elderly housing and in thinking that nature as well and we would hope that some of these get your names sure and where are you located in town i'm ranger ok welcome to look at the existing zoning districts specifically in the center in the flats and there are a couple of boundary adjustment areas and we want to look at the historic conforming area so you two are kind of in opposite areas of town so what we have up here is the center of portion so let me just kind of give you an idea of what and what this is looking at is this orange area would be our photos the new district along the center it would be reducing the minimum acreage requirement from five to half  and the boundaries would be potentially up to about their balance property and terminate at the school there are a couple of properties that are up for discussion also as being in or out just stevensville the road on the east side of where the river crosses the road so you're actually looks like you're in a portion that's still under discussion whether do you have any strong feelings whether you want to be in or out of the village district again the zoning in getting at those you know a lot by lot usage as well there are some uses that will still need review their conditional or they need site plan review we do have some handouts that i can provide to you that we're looking at  there is some potential for i'll say village commercial kinds of development but in terms of subdivision there's a few very few areas where there is the potential to  subdivide the existing constraints will still be there there's still going to be setback requirements from water bottles there's still floodplain in that area we understand there's a high water table and you still have to comply with septic rules and whether or not you can get well and well joe th did you have any concerns or other question guidelines are or how do you how do you determine what good zoning is what's what's or what is there a guiding document or guiding cairo well our guiding our guiding document selfless and that is kind of a long term look at the the way that the town has developed and the way desirable development in the future should be as part  town plan this is looking at the existing zoning districts was part of the child which were for the fine commission and then we also rely on great deal of research about existing conditions about the natural features you know there's quite a bit increasers that goes into it you know planning principles which is the cur quarter acre and then surrounding that which is purple which would include your car so  right now we have the brown area of the flats right that's the existing district for the one conforming and it would help the landowners with non conforming lots since your sister conforming it really wouldn't change much for you except you may have the ability to subdivide some time conformance here is a question it's one of the changes would mean that this to us is allowed within that district are residential only for the most part so it does change the number of uses allowed in that district so it's going to become largely a residential district versus a commercial district but we drew the boundary based on the fact that those lights are residential for the most part anyway right right of course we don't zone commercial but commercial some kinds of commercial uses are allowed within the district those commercial district uses will be looked at by the d r p is a conditional use but only district you know we might have like i guess what i'm really asking is if someone currently is using their land for rest do you are you aware right now about by doing that someone who is currently using residential in the church so that's the way that they were set and that's the way they did develop the only thing that i might put a little cabin on would be the home based businesses those would still be al are there any more questions about this area for me ok there are two more areas that we can go over just briefly we have three pockets of soil and water conservation districts that are surrounded by three acres and those areas are on poker hill road between north underhill station road and hillcrest we looked at these areas were based on the original soils maps that the zoning districts were based on in the seventy's we looked at the existing natural features in the area the fact that these are all developed with residences currently we've looked at the natural features in the area spoke with the conservation commission who looked at wildlife habitat corridors and connectivity there and determined that removing these areas of fifteen acres zone would not be detrimental to the area to any of the habitat or any of the natural features or things like that if you can  can see it it's pretty much follow the roads and they don't make much sense from a development or planning perspective so our proposal is just to remove them and they would be part of the three acres  are there any questions with that  one were there any questions that i might have kind of skipped over from the last one attention that there were some areas that jut into five acres and three acres zones that didn't make much sense these areas are for the most part developed with residences  but because of the inner spurgeon of the fifteen acres own into lower acreage zones they've become non conforming the proposal is to eliminate that kind of an even boundary where the soil and water conservation district would effectively end at the northern boundary of the ethan allen firing range so currently some of the fifteen acres own just to the so while these parcels have actually developed in a pattern that will conform to the larger district these small amounts of the fifteen acre district effectively mix them non conforming and we want to eliminate that there's no practical  for it it's such a small area that it's really one could almost say that when it was drawn the paper shifted are there any questions with that one were open to any kind of discussion the range is all in fifteen little offshoots that the judge into some parcels and makes them even and where as they would have been compliant the fifteenth the small a group portions of fifteen acre on that person ma it non conforming it's essentially cleaning up what looks to be an even b so all the residential ones well there's two there's two districts that will be affected this area and blue is three acres so anything that would be north of the boundary with the range in that acreage would be three acres own in this darker blue that would all be five acres which is what it currently is and it would just follow the district boundary or the property boundary