already and surveyors can go out to find these locations and in this particular case there are two surveys in the record room by properties and trying to change that with rundowns so it would be different for example in some cases ahead of you if you have a furnace that existed the centerline with he went out there and did his physical inspection of the property did his field work in other words the one that he also didn't use the photographs that he was able to find to try to figure by that that was in fact the location of it the thing that i think is really important about what he said he did indicate that in fact he was only using these aerial photographs he could not get necessarily a precise location for a crop aligned because it could you know be subject to a little bit of variance maybe as much as twenty feet the difference here is that we actually have testimony of witnesses supporting the location of that brothel and prior to that this is not a case of relying only on photographic evidence but this survey look calling it for seventy plus years until the survey was done by the coroners a few years back they realized hey they were informing three and a half acres of our ground as we were described were also pretty vague on the dates of when these things that they do or alleged supposedly happened they say that mr kerr that would be darrell or has been for me alone with his son for a combined thirty four years as i said could have submitted more information in his affidavit to be specific about what he's talking about including whether or not there was any variance in the location of the speech at the disputed access he did not take a deposition and that hasn't been submitted all we have is this affidavit which just has a few a few bits of information in it and i don't we put it right he's put in there a wound is enough to establish any sort of  credibility issue as to what my clients have said a good we not only have the testimony of mark warner and james k we have aerial photographs from a number of years that support what they're saying to it doesn't seem to support her from the right from what the testimony has been of these affidavits the objective testimony seems to indicate that my clients are right that this is what's been happening for decades and they've been firing this three and a half acres understated when somebody finds out after they did a survey gee whiz somebody has been forming the ground it's legally described as mine and i have been a deed of mine for many many years almost three and a half acres i'm going to stop got in roughly twenty fifteen before this thing never took any action to stop that from happening my clients made all the coffee come from that nearly three and a half acres and they never farmed it so this is truly a situation and we can do better going to that case by securing a survey with testimony in documentary evidence i submit that that's exactly what we've done in this case we have the testimony of two two witnesses who for together for seventy plus years we have documentary evidence in the aerial photographs from g i s from the u s d a better that are kept by those governmental agencies and  have the survey that specifically provides a legal description fluor the scary gets better in the spirit whenever you take together i believe that we have