decision so wrong that what was in management in this commission decision affirmed that circuit court level is against the manifest what is the evidence as detailed in our brief i strongly disagree with that reading of this evidence before you get know regards to the motor vehicle accident i think it's instructive here if i may go back to his last visit before the motor vehicle accident which was on january sixth twenty  accident what the darker bit is say about the motor vehicle action i do want to hone in on the circumstances of the motor vehicle accident he noted a stark difference in her subjective symptoms and complaints shortly after the motor symptoms that she had as a result of a motor vehicle accident in fact the only thing that i see is that her pain rating was lower following the motor vehicle accident than before so can you tell me where in accident was an intervening event that broke the causal chain it to some degree you have to infer based on the person symptoms and complaints of course she's the primary reporter of her symptoms so on january sixth she's telling d she's feeling much better she has no refill complaints of that point in time she had reduced her pain medicine intake dr kobe staying at this point which is of course twelve days prior to the motor vehicle accident that she he's anticipating specifically to the motor vehicle accident he did state that she had them at that time is my reading of his opinions he just restated are you looking to assessment unfortunately  a judge i don't have that record right in front of me at this moment i can tell you that the junior twenty or not it starts out with the history of the motor vehicle accident then it goes through his findings there is no no mention the i know what i want to remain in the questions that i've been asking you is there a record out of this january twentieth record of dark reverting to more fully supporters dr butler's opinion or the i think the commission was also looking at the credibility of this petition or i think that they were probably surly teen account the fact that this is a person who testified she couldn't recall having become tearful in a doctor's office after the motor vehicle accident she basically couldn't remember any of this which to me strains strange belief and they also had essentially stated that  time of the accident she was in she was not full do you judge a no no but i mean you were saying that she had gone back to work she had gone back prior to going back to dark of a ship in full duty at that time between a that well doesn't that totally undercut but look he's got the factual record information he certainly could see that this person was someone who within the time window prescribe by or treating physician was ready to return full duty work as far as we know he had said within two weeks i'm sending her back twelve days later is when the accident happened so that i think there is a poor for him to have concluded that she was basically done she's ready to go back and then something occurred which interested in how the commission could say that this blew the causal chain what they were looking at her children records obviously leading up to that accident because at the time of the motor vehicle accident out there had been no i am means so they're considering that this is a person who has made stars we know are totally successful fully return for three months post accident she goes back has a little bit more value of care consistent with what she'd had prior at that point then only one in the course of the initial treatment and then of course she had more after the motor vehicle accident obviously i would argue that the initial epidural the other conservative treatment she had and in so many cases responding was put in a position of taking the claim in face value in terms of their subjective complaints and of course that makes sense because how does anyone know what the patient is january sixth as compared to his notes of january nineteenth very near i'm not suggesting that they're i'm suggesting that they document this person having a severe change in her system telling her complain thank you very much right now