secretary tommy freed's and we'd like to welcome back our legislative analyst michel thank you for being here and at this time members we have two items on the agenda so we'll start with public testimony as i'll start off with our internet active communications from our district offices from our  testimony for individuals who be testifying in the chamber please sign up at the desk located in the eighth floor lobby just outside the chamber door if you will be testifying from the remote testimony locations for supplied on the meeting agenda please signed up with counsel stuff at that location the money will be limited to the items listed on the agenda today pursuant to the rules of the council each testifier will be allowed to testify for up to three minutes per item with one minute to cunt crude if requested when testify please state your name and the name of any organization you are representing our first us  resolution concisely makes the case that our community has not produced enough housing units to properly shelter a residence we as a community need to take the necessary steps to correct that situation still developing a process to encourage a dialogue between developers who have already in title projects and the county so that the project actually get built would be one of those necessary steps as a resolution indicate already intitled housing projects may be able to produce as much as one hundred thousand residential units if by opening the door to encourage their development now a county could realize the actual development of even a fraction of that number we would go a long way toward resolving our housing supply deficit a reasonable response to the housing crisis has been studying the systemic barriers to residential development over the last year often when we speak to county leaders about this problem they will point to these entitle projects and blame the developers for not fulfilling their promises when we speak to developers they're equally as want if a project not pencil well it's not going to be built in the matter what the promise is for this resolution attempts to bridge that goal by singling the developers that the county wanted to see their projects build the signals that the county is interested in hearing what the issues are with the goal figuring out what good would it would take to make these projects viable why should the county do that because we're facing ours in crisis we need to gil lot of homes built and we need to get them fast passing this resolution will not commit the county to anything other than the willingness to consider proposals for ways to get homes built it will not cost the county anything to find out why projects it is already approved never got built an ideally in the process we might actually see some of these projects come to fruition thank you any clarifications our comments questions for the test the fire if not thank you very much office ms fernandez is there anyone wishing to provide testimony white transmitting our proposed resolution to encourage the development of residential housing projects that have government to approvals necessary to proceed and to encourage developers of those residential housing twelve twenty fifteen from committee chair craig bello transmitting a revised proposed resolution entitled encouraging the development of entitled residential housing projects to revise proposals resolution the revised proposed resolution reads as follows encouraging the development of untitled residential housing projects whereas molly county is facing a shortage of housing that working residents can afford and whereas the housing shortage has contributed to rent costs ranking among the highest in the nation and a near total lack of homes for sale is below five hundred thousand dollars and whereas the lack of affordable housing is taking a toll on working families particularly among those earning eighty percent are people of the area median income average and where as the state department of business economic development and tourism reported earlier this year  need approximately fourteen thousand housing units by twenty twenty five just to keep up with the demand caused by natural population growth and whereas the molly island plan states that the county now has fifty four thousand seventy housing units and will need approximately thirty thousand more by twenty thirty to meet projected growth and whereas according to the molly i didn't plan nearly nineteen thousand housing units have been entitled for development that is they have been given the necessary government approved governmental approvals to proceed but have not yet been developed and whereas the my we count and where as my we county has issued on average less than four hundred building permits for residential units annually over the last five years and where as it has long been a concern of the council that numerous entitled projects in mali county have not been developed and  entitled residential housing projects would help address my we counties housing shortage now therefore be it resolved by the council of the county of mali one that it encourages the development of entitled residential housing project too that it further encourages developers of untitled residential housing projects to inform they were to inform the director of housing and human concerns of any impediments to development so that the county administration and the co economic opportunity in albert her as executive director molly tomorrow foundation inc john anderson executive director now holly on maui john white executive director pacific research partnership in regards to this resolution thank you very much share it as i i don't think i need to repeat anything that's already been read by the staff but the as the testifier mentioned we are continually here concerns and in this chamber many of the promises that have been made over the years have not been fulfilled that's why we don't have as much affordable housing as we might otherwise have  and when things don't pencil out they're not going to be good that i can be moving forward so this is hopefully an effort to encourage people that have gotten previous entitlements under the fifty percent level of affordable housing and i would suggest that that would apply to both the those that were awarded under affordable and in the workforce housing as well as those who have been given that fifty percent requirement if there are a special project district because i believe that if you've gone through and gotten approvals for a special project or project district i should say that you're not subject to the affordable housing numbers or workforce housing bill so this is simply a way to say to the the community work force housing adjustments that were passed in this committee earlier this year so it is something that i would like to see because we all know that we simply don't have the level of housing available to the residents that we need in order to solve many of the challenges that we face at this time so thank you for bringing this up thank you chair i'd like to mass for  members we don't have an opening statement with regards to your white's proposal but we are available to answer any questions that the committee has at this time thank you do we have any comments from any representative i guess michelle make me from planning department no comments i'd like to then open a floor for discussion if i may be so members as to college  chair i like the the resolution are we talking or can we discuss kind of before it passes council some of the issues here ok good  my question is the how department of housing and human concerns the housing portion do you guys follow all these projects that have all these entitlements and are you aware of what's causing categories we we don't really monitor with regards to the process of entitlement but yes it is our division that that tracks this i recently took over as administrator about a month ago and i'm in the process of putting together and updating all of the spreadsheets with your guards to projects and getting a good handle on exactly what's out there what's your prove what's old what hasn't moved so kind of along the same lines of what we're discussing here this afternoon thank you demand and ma think that's part of the issue is is there's no one place that either would write these guys or find out what's causing the problem i know apparently the mayor's office has a person that goes through the permits planning people that we keep track of some things and you've got housing you know it might be a situation that that might be something we need somebody one person or department to kind of ride herd on these guys and say what can we do to help what's the issue so that if we have these questions and these things aren't happening we can have an answer without having the call buddy in and do that so that might be a systematic thing systemic thing that we can work on as well as a result of this resolution i guess if the department or departments would want to consider maybe you don't have the capacity and maybe that is something that they would consider recommending is the big three no thank you and thank you for this chart with the mowing affordable housing progress that is i guess just came from this my team and it showed the tool number of units projected total number of affordable units and what percentage  vacation but if you have here with the then thousand eight hundred forty five or the eighteen thousand seven hundred forty four comes out of the general plan that's the information we have and i think that's sort of referenced in the resolution and for that reason and then the other to this we have is actually our housing  planning department gives us and i think what's missing also is the date which would be helpful is how long has it been sitting there that's there the date that the receive their is currently in title housing units and that is what i'm dealing with i'm not talking about anything else that came out here and i apologize i'm not trying to i agree with no problem but i see another and i've been problem with entitled projects that are not happening in a whole bunch of reasons why they're not happening and everybody chose to see different things some people say it's money some people see me the world or other people say  of the rector's this one there were no there's two and i would if the committee has no objection to you chair i'd like to hear from them because they are on this list i'd like to hear a little bit more about what what's going on to say to the people who have already gone through the process that if you would like the council to take another look at the project and and take a look at adjusting the criteria are they dusting the well we call them promises they call them exactions but the reality is that this resumes really apply only to those who have already spent all the time these are projects that  are closer to being reality than those that would be starting from the beginning and just to to round out the list and i just these are just off the top of my head but kilani is under affordable housing requirement of i believe fifty percent there are a project district by we lani numbers are included here i believe they're under a ten percent affordable housing requirement and there's a that but so we've got a number of projects that have been title months and i believe this way luca river project is one where one of the requirements for them to move forward is to build a bridge and so it's you know it's one of those things where if you want to make sure that no local family can afford to buy a house make them build a bridge now so again this is just to encourage the past and people out there are suing we have to really good projects that we all agreed on i think are pretty close and  they're being held up in court because you know one or two people don't like the idea so we've got a whole mishmash of reasons why and the whole bridge thing or there's two projects the two that  highway all the way across to more main street so that if we have they came before us and we couldn't remove it then well i don't know where the state stand because you can ask me that that was his part of his because i remember these very distinctly about forget the title of it and it was supposed to come out right by the bridge and that the bridge their main reason for their bridges there was no ability for  market and if you didn't go to market there was no place else to come out you have to come up behind a road and come up by market street and there was nowhere else so all of these things were put in because of those factors and i just thank you thank you mr wade thank you  regardless of how it came about the reality is that the owners of the future owners of those homes are going to be the ones that are paying for it and i don't know how many hold would fit on the in those projects  but regardless when you divide up six million dollars you have to wonder whether the rest of the population on maui should be helping foot part of that bill through property taxes and state taxes highway taxes or gas tax i sixteen lot house subdivision and everybody keeps saying when when and no he said he are not asking anything we haven't already asked many times and questions when we call different departments you know if the plans go through the system they go through about three different times before you finally get sign off on your civil plans and when you call the find out what the status is after it's been turned in the say it's gone through three months you haven't gotten a word and you call and you find out it's been sitting on somebody's desk because they were busy working on another project and the question becomes why can't somebody else work on it i like the comment that was made earlier today about can't somebody walk these through i think i'm like the pacific cancer foundation that has a navigation system that's one person when you go up there you know i just got cancer so what do i do where do i go how do i find help and that person takes them through all the different steps that they need to go through to meet the right doctors to get the right care the right whatever it takes to make them feel more comfortable with what they're going to be going through over the next however many months days years hopefully the rest of their life because once we all know that cancer is not a once in a lifetime thing it's once you've had it you worry about it forever and so the navigator is so vital in that organization and i think wow would it be wonderful if we could hand our plans to somebody with the thought that in six months it's going to get handed back to us or i should say that let's not go fast forward that at least in a couple of weeks we're going to start getting questions from the different departments about why this why not that i can you do this better so on and so forth we we had our civil plans and i think as march we turned him in this year we're just now this week next week going to be getting hopefully the final signature on that on those plans so we can move forward and have a bit of letting to start moving some dirt over there but a week before that final signature is coming out we've got somebody who looked at it two weeks into them after the march arrival of our plans in their office who had two words he didn't like in response so he gave them that response was given back in april and it comes back up just as we're getting ready to close this whole thing out and it's like two words at a critical yeah maybe it could have been said better and we're willing to do that and we sat down ok here's how we're going to write it bam it's done but why did that happen so much later in the process we were concerned when we found out we had to go in for a variance to get the sixteen units that was partly my mistake eight units per acre we have one point one three two acres sixteen houses looks perfect on there i mean we're short maybe you know one thousand eight hundred square feet something like that or less so we do we do and i said well our mission is to build as many houses as we can to supply to the community we have to go for a variance and everybody is telling me i was going to slow you down you're not going to get this thing go on and i said variance is not going to be a problem i don't think because i think that the people on the variance committee understand what we're trying to do and they can see the plans and they can see the layout and see that this works nobody nobody is being shortchanged everybody is getting nice sized lots let's go for it so we go for it it takes us from july to not so i took us from the end of may because we're still waiting or we were still waiting for other departments to do things that according to our timeline internally we thought was going to be done a lot sooner and spicey thank you very much here and thank you for being here this afternoon i thought it was really important that you know we're talking in generalities about time and how things get held up but to you folks who are actively in charge of building these projects you have the actual experience of what really happens you know you're in the trench and i think it's important for us to hear the stories so that we know where the bottlenecks are and if we're going to try to find a way to get around this and speed things up with the navigator whatever solution we can come up with i think we need to know what those barriers are i understand that there's another serious barrier to your project and i think you'd need to share with us because we need to understand what is going on we can fix it if we don't know the water issue tell it right when you talk about a good point as as we get down close to the to the end of getting through the process you know i mean we learned early on that we were going to have to do something with the six inch waterline  but then we start getting the numbers on what it's going to take to do that not only the cost of doing it but also the fact that there are other people living there who need their laterals hooked up we have we're now responsible for hooking up their water and so we're saying ok i think the estimate that we turned in was something like one hundred seventy to one hundred ninety thousand dollars to do that now yes there is a refund revision as soon as we finish the project there's like five the next five years we get ten percent of what we spent the problem is coming up with that money now when we're trying to do everything else and not having any idea at the start of it there were we were looking at that kind of money ahead we need those affordable housing how can we help you can we make you a loan can we find some money someplace to subsidize but we've got to do it this otherwise you're sitting there and we're getting frustrated in the communities and well what's wrong with it waiting to get this built but we're not in the process right you know once it leaves us we're not in the press is that i really don't know but i think this is an put interior that we understand what the agencies get apply for the affordable housing front to get something like that fix or think that would be a perfect example for the use of the affordable housing for we run affordable housing and that's something that needs to be done department the the grant for you so i'm not sure exactly what expenditures this particular is that is going to cost but it's something that we can discuss because you know the ground can be used for pretty much anything towards a project right and we do have just about nine hundred thousand left which is which is pretty close to the bid for the civil work and then we add this hundred seventy on to that or over again one of the issues that this brings up and  because we started out with two million dollars that bought the land and is doing the civil work and the pre construction council consulting work and so forth and it would it would have covered it it would have covered it we went out for financing for building houses which is a whole nother issue and the folks that are financing that are going to end up with all of the mortgages or most of the mortgages on the property which is a great deal for them and that's why they offered to step in and  do the financing on the houses we're getting close to being able to sign paperwork like that and then all of a sudden we got this this gap we need another hundred seventy thousand to get to build the houses and so that's where the issue comes in for us i mean it everything was pretty tight to start with we've been very conscientious about how we spend our money at the last minute they said well we could maybe include that in the house construction loan but that creates another issue for us that's ten thousand dollars per house to add to financing which adds ten thousand dollars per house to the purchase price to the buyer of the house and we have gone through the process of identifying buyers and have given a kind of a price what i want to say initial yeah they have yeah they're affordable but the price range and these people have prequalified based on that range now if i come back and tell them all i'm sorry the house going to cost an extra ten fifteen thousand dollars because we have to do this we're going to lose some of those people and you know the only thing worse then delaying this project is my having to tell somebody i'm sorry the house your what you thought you were going to get you not going to get thank you mr b three no i think you're on part of my question with mr carlson asked but the other side is when we other properties you know and that's where i get to problem with the department of water supply is somewhat their rules are very capricious and i were cherry and they end up paying it in that respect did they should have to do it and the money our county facilities put in because we take a vacant lot right now that's not bringing in much tax income turn around put homes on there and all of a sudden now we've got some tax revenue no real property which will help in this area right  saw maybe there's some changes we have to make within the law itself i know old to show me to want to be and has been nothing short of stopping everything from happening again and i know guys are going to bring out the masses grand plan i still see it's time to you know i thought it was really important that we hear about this today i heard about it of course because it is what are cheer i was approached by susie to say what can you guys do with this or how can you help us you know one of the problems we have here is that a lot of these developers are nonprofits and they make no money on these projects they just do them because this is what they do and they want to help their community but then they fall into this situation and they're not banks you know they don't have lots of money to to put out  and wait for five years i had this discussion with one of the engineers who said oh well it's just a little bit of money i said maybe it's a little bit of money to you but to none profit agency one hundred seventy thousand dollars is not a little bit of money it's money and they can't bank that so it's very difficult so we might want to look at you know how can we hope in this kind of situation so that we can get that money to them and we can move ahead because our goal is to get the homes built right thank you thank you right ok and the price of the land goes with the house yes yeah these are the full package ok thank you my project i think you know great intentions the department was so behind us the council was behind us it ministration was behind us everybody thought this project was a wonderful project and a great place revitalized happy valley but time is money and time and money is what affected this project what i found out we were in permit for a year and a half and what i found out was that the consultants our engineers architects they were submitting to the department's basically unfinished clients and their excuse was well we know they're going to make changes anyway so why should we tune it out when they're going to make all these changes and the departments were saying well these aren't good plans you know so why we're not going to even look at these until and we kept going back and forth and it was actually the administration and the department that finally helped us get all the departments in one room which really helped because we had you know one department saying they wanted a crosswalk right in front of our project another one saying no that's ridiculous you know there was no curbs and gutters all kinds of stuff so we got everybody in the same room and we were able to sort of hammer out some of those issues so there was a little bit of fault to go around with any developer whether you're a nonprofit or for profit any time you it takes a long time you're to have to get through permit it's very expensive we have carrying costs we have interest payments we have you know just maintaining the property that type of stuff and the cost of the project goes up we started off when construction was really low by the time we got going all our bids were much more than we expected much more so what happen is the project ended up being about two million dollars over budget and we couldn't pass that on to the homeowners because we serve eighty percent below the average price of the units was one hundred ninety thousand and the average mortgage payment principle was five hundred fifty one dollars per month so the county luckily enough through affordable housing fund in the home money subsidized project so the county about paying for it in the end and so maybe if the county had discounted some of the and helped us along the  front it wouldn't have cost the county quite so much so we got a look at it from the front end when we're designing these projects and when we're going through as as susan said the navigator getting it through faster getting the consultants and the departments to work better together and so we don't have these huge delays in the project for the call home project we've been ready to go for a long time you know i went through the  see the two a one h with west my lad company i went through all the public hearings we've been partners in this for i don't know eight nine years i've been doing this for thirteen some up there and the amount of units local he pacific was involved in the beginning then they had to drop out and then were involved at a certain amount of units and now so the project has changed drastically over the years but all those steps are you see and unfortunately what you see because it is judicial you can get people to intervene and delay the process and quite frankly i'm surprised by land companies too willing to go forward with this project because they have spent an enormous amount of money in legal fees going through all these hearings and not being able to start because one person has taken it all the way up to the intermediate court of appeals she just lost we just got word but there's nothing to stop her from now appealing to the supreme court and those kind of delays again  something has to be done on a state level years ago i was on a commission called barriers to affordable housing and every single one of these issues and this was back when linda lingle was governor long ago every single with us you know if anybody has been able to provide affordable housing habitat for humanity you know is standing right up there it's always such a pleasure to be able to see you hand the keys to one of your cl and you know at the prices that would to get but i think your experience is really important and i thank you for being here to share i think we can all benefit thank you thank you  it almost bankrupt habitat you know at the end we were borrowing a lot of money to be able to just finish the project and so how many units is it sixteen units twenty one people in there four kids now two dogs and they're all doing wonderfully thank you thank you thank you members any more questions thank you sherry would be the chair of the councils and if this passes and passes through the council i'm assuming it's going to come back into your committee and then we can invite some of these folks over here or i'm not sure that excuse me i'm sorry i don't know whether i'm i understand it is because the council was the the ones that placed the majority of  the promises on the developers that it may be possible for them to come directly back to the council but i think it would be appropriate for us to have if it was a workforce housing project that it come back or  come back through see if it's a project district you guys do deal with that is that ok so so basically i think we would want their input as people are can have staff follow up with correspondence to the department to do individual follow ups with with the developer is that that are listed here so we can find out what their status is and and invite them that we can come back and see how that the status and how they are moving about what sort of barriers if there are any that they're facing in regards to going on here but you know i'm looking at the list given by deputy planning director especially a lady in the west maui projects and they're in two of these are not slated the developer has no intent to build so here we have all this acreage of entitlements and we ran through the entire i mean you know hours of deliberations in rooms full of testifiers in you name it and here we stand today i mean years later and on a piece of paper they did not build it so what do we do with that and where do we go i'd like to get the developers i mean all the labor unions here to to speak out how of the been working  to dialogue what's the stall here what's going on so definitely need further discussion and it's just odd that they see why little a ridge add to google and actually see where is this  purely they're going forward with this you know luxury homes one hundred fifty units but yet these others that i know have some affordable involved are not going anywhere you know intend to build so that's a sad want to call it every department or administration may want to consider weekend appropriate some positions or move it around or whatever it is that it takes three transportation related contracts on today's agenda we will begin with the first two contracts on the agenda involving affordable housing project as follows  as international incorporated for five hundred eleven thousand the committee has received from the deputy director of finance a short description of the scope of work for contract c five eight three nine fifty six power and multi family residential units within approximately six thousand four hundred to one thousand three hundred square square feet built buildings and a multi purpose community center zero six six zero one four i will at this time the housing department to please provide the committee with information on these contracts for the malo affordable housing project including an update on the status of this project and the anticipated time frame for the project where the project at start and completion went to bid last spring we received three bids for this project the bids actually came in under the budget estimate we chose central construction as a general contractor for this project held in early november for this project the notice of it has our notice to proceed has not been issued as yet we expect that to be issued sometime in january the completion date is a period of performance is actually one year we're expecting construction to be finished in the winter of two thousand and seventeen then right this is twenty twenty seventeen  do you have any questions for me chair why does it take so long from the time of the signing of the contract to the notice to proceed just out of curiosity i think everyone concedes that a one year construction time is going to be very very tight there's  also issues having to do with preparation for the construction things that need to be done ahead of time this there is federal funding involved in this and so they're trying to make sure that all of the subcontractors and the contractors have got a grasp of what's required  there as well as turning in the required forms and we're trying to do all that stuff up front so that there's not some confusion after the start the general contractors also going through  and they're got some shop drawings that they want approved so they make sure exactly what's going on but you know it shouldn't be it shouldn't be too much longer and how much how much federal funds are we getting versus county from the federal funding portion is about two four point four million the affordable housing so essentially our funds are about ten million eleven million and how much for the  y as a project been built in phases and if so how will it be pieced it's not being built in phases they're expecting completion i mean obviously the general contractor will decide how he's going to whether he's going to build each building individually and then move on to the next building but typically not again because of the time frame that we're talking about for construction they're all going to be done at the same time so we provide it eleven eleven million affordable housing fun provided eleven million yes and that includes the planning the design and the construction just about everything you know this is the construction budget only ok and  below so yeah your research you're restricted as to who you can rent to but it's very similar to the affordable housing and the two programs can work together pretty well  there are not there is a five percent contingency built into the contract as well as the fact that this is an affordable project so it's not subject to tax so that's another four percent that would be available  percent key thank you remember any further questions or comments thank you thank you members with no objections i'm going to move on to the  amendment two to the ground between the county and heritage hall incorporate it to provide an additional five hundred thousand dollars and extend the completion date until december thirty one twenty seven team for the construction of heritage channel i will ask our budget director mr sandy baas to review this grant and does that is apparent to charles construction the grant appropriation was for the department of housing occurs also in the fiscal year twenty sixteen budget there is a proviso for the five hundred thousand dollars in grant fund that says provide it that five to one matching funds are received by harry to charlie incorporated that term is also written into their contract amendment soul also for discussion and explanation as the provi department of housing and concerned so when we originally appropriated money to heritage hall in i believe his prior administration they actually had granted the monies out of the office and reporting and all that goes through office of economic development just so that because they had the existing relationship with with the grantee and they were very gracious and in accepting that continued responsibility i've passed out today eighty the late latest quarterly report from heritage hall you've got it there in front of you it's got a narrative report and then it's been updated with some pictures these pictures are from actually just week you can see the actual stern status of this facility and you can see that the construction is nearing completion haven't got landscaping in yet but they're working on that as well i do have an update to this report as well that the see there was a question about electricity bill for the next twenty years so pretty pretty decent deal there and they have one final small change order about an exhaust fan in an elevator not being in the drawings but other than that you excited because the buildings are you know going up and i want to take the opportunity to thank mr farris for his donation you know all of us love to go to this and we are just very grateful that he made this generous donation to this facility i know that the people that have been involved at me waiting for a very long time and it will be so nice to have it done but it seems like everything's coming together so thank you everybody thank you i also would like to thank me for years the man has always been a steadfast supporter of our community and of course the portuguese and puerto rican organizations that have worked very diligently to put this together you know our tree and the rest of them beach and the rest have worked really really really hard over the years and i've been a part of it in a pinch on the board for a number of years with the portuguese club so i know that a lot of effort and time has been put in and the proviso was mansel that was good but i did hear earlier madam chair did you said something about they were asking for an extension to two thousand and seventeen or did i hear him correctly i apologize it it says to extend the completion date and to december thirty one thirty first twenty seventh is that correct is that they may have just put that in the contract just to allow for time to complete the reimbursements and things like that but the completion date of the project will be march twenty four as soon as hopefully april of two thousand and sixteen right so so it does take some time after the construction is done to get all the reimbursements in all that stuff that's all the reimbursement portion not actual construction correct yeah that's  among the counties contract with heritage hall we need to make it beyond the construction date so they have time to do all the paperwork ok ok i when i had two dollars seventeen i just did a quick to what i knew what's happening i'm like oh ok and then the  the other two issues about the change order and as far as the photo reuptake you know we have a great deal going on down what i was very happy to see when they brought the contract are if you didn't yes excellent idea you know and i think it's going to help them a lot and i hard and damien was just one of many donors that made to scum to fruition so and there's a lot of sleep and going to the rice i don't want to tell you how many fundraisers over the years have gone toss is building but you know i think it's a collaborative effort on the communities part and something we can all be proud of once it's completed it will preserve the world the portuguese and puerto rican heritage is i think this is a part and we've done with the japanese buzz you know i join in the excitement for this group just by the pictures looks beautiful think we need to do a site visit as part of that so between the county and ma economic opportunity in corp for an additional two million five hundred thousand dollars to extend until june thirtieth twenty sixteen the  paratransit services to contract c five three two six dash three amendment three two the contract between the county and robert's tours and transportation in for an additional nine hundred ninety seven thousand five hundred to extend until june thirtieth two thousand and sixteen molly bus commuter service and contract five three to seven dash for amendment four to the contract between the county and robert's tours and transportation for an additional five million one hundred ninety two thousand five hundred to extend until june thirtieth tw with the department mr vended out and is in its third year of its five year contract the fifth year the end of the fifth year would be june thirtieth twenty teen in fiscal year fifteen the my system accommodated over two point four million passenger partings overall there was a one point eight percent decrease in passenger boardings from fiscal year fourteen to fifteen the fiscal fix wrote system so an average of a ninety eight point five percent on time record and passengers continue to use the my bus as an option to driving as driving a car as an economic option based on the first quarter numbers right or ship is on track to being for at for this of this fiscal year users to track prices live on a map and get accurate arrival predictions for their regular stops they are also able to get customize alerts as well as receive important important system wide announcements about schedule changes detours and other up to the minute alterations in services so that people can make adjustments to their schedule users are able to check their out status online as well so for our eighty eight paratransit program we saw a total of a little over sixty seven thousand boardings this pass fiscal year and that's actually up slightly from sixty six thousand from fiscal year fourteen that is about a one point eight percent increase from the previous year still expected to expand as more people take advantage of this vital service currently there are one thousand and forty six clients qualified to use paratransit and on average we've seen about a fifty percent about fifty percent of those qualified actually use the service in regards to services that on time performance record for report for october twenty fifth teen was ninety four percent actually and it's actually up from ninety two percent in august as for the telephone reservation wait times it is currently at me one point six nine minutes which is actually down from two point two four minutes back in august just  giving a slight update on the types of services we've are providing for paratransit there are several new features that we've implemented on the paratransit system and those features those features are the night before calls on the way cause and a web portal axis the night before calls are exactly that when a client makes a reservation are several reservations with emil the system will provide a courtesy car the night before the day of their requested service and basically all read to the passenger their list of trips for the following day the passengers are given the option to cancel their trips either individually or for the entire day for the on the day of their scheduled pick ups we have the ability to provide on the way cause these calls are a reminder cause that is currently set to five minutes before the buses estimated time of arrival for pick up the cars not because notifies passengers that the vehicles are on the way the last service that is basically being rolled out shortly is the belief for passengers to log into a portal online where they can actually review their upcoming trips and cancel any ships that they choose that they don't want to take and with these kinds having the ability to be reminded about their reservations and cancels the ones that they don't want to take will help cut down no shows and it gives them you know the ability to better utilized of a local resources to meet the needs issues for our third contract that would be the commuter service with roberts away this past fiscal year we saw one one hundred eighty eight thousand boardings which is actually slightly up from fiscal year fourteen of one hundred eighty six almost one hundred eighty seven thousand and fourteen so that's point seven increase from the previous year these services provided within these three contracts are currently being evaluated and any proposed changes t expansions and scheduling among other areas will be incorporated in our department's short greens transit plan update they'll be helping guide our department over the next five years or so so we just finished our four community meetings with our consultants s s f am and they are planning to do a presentation in front of this committee to be happening on december eighth so if you have any questions on our t v three contracts we're here to answer them thank you  and whatnot how many are there were going to be required to have those ups or if not which is fine do you know what percentage  so we basically what's nice about the app is that it doesn't require the writers to have that it's just a useful tool for writers where you know if they're actually sitting at work and working you can actually do a customized alert where you can say ok when the bus is going to be five minutes or ten minutes out from my stop it will create a notification and the writer know ok well the bus it will be here in ten minutes to drink and so that that you know providing more information to the riders well make their right i feel in my opinion will make their lives easier in terms of the use we don't have a specific  amount of people there would use the service yet but since releasing the the application to the public we've seen we can actually track that data so we've actually seen  from maybe like one hundred hundred viewers looking and downloading that i think now we're up into maybe like seven hundred range of people actually either viewing it or maybe around that five hundred or so downloading that so i think it i think as he catches on a lot more people will be downloading that because it's something very useful and handy for writers have access to a cell phone and so it shouldn't be a problem do they need a smartphone or just a cell phone in order to get in a alert yes thank you what's nice about the trans look is that working with trans look the company that's providing that basically if you have a smartphone that's probably the easiest we have getting that information to use through text messaging you can actually be taxed to i don't have that information with me but probably be releasing it will be releasing more information on how information if you only have text messaging good you know unfortunately you've been having this round of meetings in the communities talking about your planning and it just hasn't worked this is been a crazy meeting k because i'd like to see that myself and i'm really sorry that i was not able to attend any of the scheduled meetings but you thank you thank you thank you thank you any further questions members if not more and i guess fares are charged to the writers what happens to the revenues yes thank you how emil is actually paid is based on service hours so as long as they have a bus that's going out to pick up somebody for an hour and then driving around and takes maybe two hours before they come back to the beasts or then we would pay for two hours of service so that is how our contract is currently set up and then to answer your other question in terms of our fair revenues when we do collect fair revenues those revenues get deposited into the highway fund ok what about medicare patients using emil for transportation to  alice's how is that handled and does that impact the county contract the program is actually through the human services transportation grant so basically that is if if i believe that when like to thank the representatives from the administration and the department of cooperation council for their participation also like to think michelle