that mr allen is willing to have sex with an eight year old well is that really true the guidelines really contemplate the possession and distribution of images not people who are willing to be hands on who's on the odd hasn't spectrum who collects child pornography and trades them in their sit in their mom's basement and those cases are out there there's another group of people that you're doesn't appear to be any inclination anywhere to be you know hands on offenders right and then there's a group of people which there is actual evidence that they're either hands on offenders or that they're willing to be hands on offenders and isn't that something the trial judge can saying on condition sixteen the government seems to say in its brief that it more or less agrees with you that the limitation about such material or entertainment is limited to establish ent that have the primary purpose of selling or distributing that kind or displaying that kind of material what are you asking us to do on that  at think it might still be more tailored yeah oh i see you're challenging the whole thing you think you should be able to go into adult bookstores and strip clubs and so forth but alternatively on it limited so he can go into a gas station that happens to sell magazines or something lift this restriction on communicating with his own children yet also touching not that i strongly what's wrong with that as long as the judge does that at the beginning of the process if the exam were to show as a threat to his own children what would be wrong with keeping this restriction in place i think on the record the judge imposed in that condition on the record as it is i think it's not what about the record because there's no indication that he has he had he would ever use his own children are they get sexual interest in a school children well you think there's a way to distinguish between eight year olds who are not his children and those who are i'm sorry what do you mean well well i mean how do you how do we know that his interest in minors is limited to non family members i guess  because nobody's given him to be yet you know and i think that what page twelve of the sensing transcript of yours on after that to say i also specifically object to the condition that madame's not be able to have contact with or even below he would not be able to appeal and so if you are strictly construed against the government the it says what it says right yes your honor and and so it create all kinds of sort of anomalies that seem on their face to be unreasonable or uncertain or you know irrational but if you agree to it you agree to it as long as it doesn't violate the constitution or the other federal law is fine right because it was said he reserves the right to appeal the sentence if the sentences above the ring could have said he reserves the right to appeal the length of his prison sentence or something like that it is written more broadly to say reserves the right to appeal the sentence who may bring in everything once the condition is met i understand your honor and i mean that is certainly something for this or to consider and i mean if the court decides ultimately not to enforce a waiver in this because in this particular case and we are asking the court to affirm the special can eight year old girl in front of her mother what do you think we should do with number sixteen on the bookstores and so forth i thought your brief said you basically agreed with the defense position that the catchall language is limited do you stand bushman's that primarily deal in those kinds of materials and you didn't think it should pick up you convenience store that happens to sell some magazines in the back corner and i read you correctly on now yes your honor we argued that the condition was clearly intended to prohibit him from entering businesses where the primary purpose would be to obtain or view pornography and it's not designed to prevent him from marrying a business whose primary purpose is directed to other types of retail and i think it was read together with the special condition prohibiting his obtaining and viewing pornography so it so think should be we should order that it be modified to read in that way then so does limited to a place that has not as the primary  guidelines take into account behavior of mr adams when he made arrangements to meet up with an eight year old and write that eight year old in front of her mother  were to take into account the nature and circumstances of this offense does not mean that further further consideration is an abuse of discretion in the court can take into those factors take into account th  no your honor i don't have a specific case for the court on that particular issue and i think that the the relevant factor here to consider is that and mr adams believed that he was communicating with someone who had an eight year old child and that was willing to allow him to meet that child for purposes of right and so the court properly stand then i was just asking if you really similar cases w