the request for asylum from the past known as region are based on political opinion not whatever we're saying is to civil strife and that was the concern that i had about the judge's opinion is because we don't really know what sort of strike is because i really don't know what that is i haven't found any case bar any analysis that would give it some sort of definition or standard to apply or test to be able to make a determination that there resettle strike that would operate as a part with sila which is what's happening here but i would suggest to the court that if it were to provide us with clarity on this guidance on this issue that that would be very important but in this case i would i would say that with there are civil strife because the respondent on account of is clearly a question i would i would look to see i would look at a reasonable cost for resting in life and that's the standard that we use in our law let's look at what we have probable cause or reasonable cause to believe that he's actually that really gets to the heart of why we're here today the two things that i believe that compel a different conclusion are first of all that when i was part of the petitioner was in jail a government official came to him told him the next time you subjected to the conditions that he was in the person on the well founded fear standard to go back to what the other differences in this case but the fact that he is now on the m p d c red list now there was a letter in the record when i was dressed the cour also found that past persecution of persecution in general is a very extreme concept and that not every form of mistreatment or harassment would fall within that definition the petitioners detentions while unfortunate and certainly as he cited under miserable conditions do not necessarily rise to the level of past persecution they're far less onerous than certain instances of persecution that this court and other courts have found not only that your honor but as you pointed out the immigration judge did have other reasons for denying the asylum application beyond not showing past persecution either based on past persecution or wealth and if your argument the immigration judge found that there was no legitimate nexus and there was no on commissioner that he had already disaffiliated from the us and that you see i'm really confused if he were arrested because i believe that he was participating in demonstrations against the government i e because they had a political opinion they opinion if the police commissioner any senegalese officials incorrectly even more correctly believe that he was part of the insurgency but in this particular case the facts show that they had no reasonable basis to believe that and the only reason that mr and a others were arrested was collectively the people in the cosmos were believed to be rebellious they are the country you say singled out what do we know from the record as to how many people were arrested and treated in the same way he was treated  well we know your honor from the record is what mr and on testified is that when he was arrested he was arrested with several other people or a group of people the country but it doesn't sound as though all the people in the region or even all the members of the group were arrested without doesn't mean you know the only person arrested it certainly should be sufficient for singling out that he was in a group or small group of people chosen from among their potential members of the group so i'm not sure where you're singled out argument specifically in relation to a small group or not it's not a small group or regional group of people in senegal actively in adamantly opposed to the central government in this particular case the immigration judg again your honor not civil i won't belabor the point on civil strife but the the record also indicates that any alleged well founded fear of half of the petitioner is mitigated and undermined by certain record evidence states presumably around as it's reasonable to expect that if he truly suffered persecution in the future truly had a well founded fear he would have left the country sooner he also failed to leave the country along with his family members when i think it was late ninety four early ninety five they proceeded to a refugee camp near the border of gambia and then also proceeded to gambia in one thousand nine hundred seven position to not join them at that time but remain in senegal  by a police commissioner of a police official that if he returned he would somehow be killed mr and down speculation about what the police officer actually meant when he was threatening him cannot support a finding of cannot  judge has no idea what's in the mind of the persons that arrested him then on the other thing and if we don't know what's in the mind of the person that arrested him then we look to have to look at their objective factors what were the object of factors the nexus between the alleged insurgences or whatever activity was being come the next time could be five years from now ten years from now twenty years from now the responded decided that he was not going to wait to find out what that would be and i do think your honor even under that there are two things here is you know for the standard of review we have t