ok good morning everyone let's call it speed of august twenty fifth two thousand and two porter let's see we do have a courtroom and we will entertain public testimony at this time if any would like to the architects we have this morning civil engineers are engineering the site that was with us this morning archaeological and cultural resources consultants were scientific consult construct a new dining hall at the camp the dining hall will be approximately seventy five hundred square feet in size the existing dining hall at the related to that dining hall our proposed improvements to the domestic and fire suppression water systems currently there are no fire protection systems of the county and i just like to note that a portion of the water system improvements are on two adjacent properties parcels one and twenty nine which are owned by the state and leased by the boy scouts of america scouts the new dining hall will be located in the center of the camp in the middle of all the existing facilities the location of the water system improvements are here it extends from where the new dining hall will be developed in the one nine hundred thirty s and is currently occupied sixty percent of the year and a ninety five percent of the weekends throughout the year the current dining hall was constructed in one nine hundred thirty eight and is aging and falling into disrepair that the new dining hall intends to adequate facility for the scouts and the community groups that both use the camp again the two existing parking lots fulfill the parking requirements that are directly associated with the camp uses camp as evelyn mentioned the scope of the permit request is three for one is to permit the structure of the new dining hall and also to permit the existing camp uses and facilities and any future improvements and uses and also the two off site gravel parking areas that fulfill the parking requirements for the  showing the existing conditions of the fighting all see the weathering of the roof of the new dining hall sensor of the camp's existing facilities will be approximately seventy five hundred square feet in space consisting of an approximately fourteen hundred square foot kitchen thirty three hundred square feet in dining speaks hundred square feet and restrooms space and because the dining hall will be built into a slope there is space on the lower level the twenty three hundred square feet  here this is a photo of the area where the dining hall will be constructed again this slopes down to the lion's cabins in the pool then it will be constructed in this location is an architectural rendering of the proposed banning all we see the slope and the open activity space underneath and all the dining hall uses will be located on the main  published in the environment on notice on january twenty third twenty fifteen and the final year and finding a significant impact was published on april twenty third twenty fifteen as part of the  several technical studies were prepared and in terms of choice environmental impacts the project started to speed to have adverse impacts to topography or soil conditions because  resources terms of socio economic infrastructure and tax on the beach no significant long term impacts to population or economy no implications or the need to extend services  for police fire or medical services no adverse effect on existing recreational or educational facilities no long term impacts to traffic in the area which we would require associated water system improvements to augment and improve the existing systems which serve the count and no significant negative impacts to waste water drainage or energy and communication systems this time let's open it up to any questions request for a reconnaissance level survey of campgrounds before the issuance of building permits and the department and the applicant consultant were able to work with and come to an agreement that reconnaissance level survey  us only be required for the existing dining hall prior to the issuance of the building permit for the new dining hall and then within six months of the issuance of that the applicant will be required to complete there are less for all the structures on the campgrounds so i just wanted to give that a little bit of background because when i do get to the recommendations i'm departments proposing additional projects specific condition and they can i'll give you that specific language when i get there and then the department also wants to emphasize as brian mentioned that this is not only for the construction of the new dining hall but for allowing the camp use but any future improvements are only going to be those that are camp related so when the approval letter the application ties with the applicable standards for a county special use permit and as such the department recommends approval approval is based upon the six standard conditions and chair would you like me to review the six hundred s designed to minimize potential environmental impacts throughout the construction phase of the project condition number eight reads that in the event that a store resources including human skeletal remains are identified during routine construction activities all work shall cease in the immediate vicinity of the find the mine shall be protected from additional disturbance and the state historic preservation division maoi section shall be contacted immediately and you know way too for three five one six nine and then condition number nine which is the part i would like t which is what i just mentioned previously would state that it completed reconnaissance level survey for the existing dining hall shall be accepted by the state historic preservation to division prior to issuance of a building permit for the new dining hall verification of compliance with this condition shall be submitted along with the project's compliance or less for the remaining can building should be completed within six months after the issuance of the building permit for the new dining hall verification of submitted to the planning department in the form of an acceptance letter from s h p so in consideration of the foregoing the planning department recommends that the maori planning commission adopt the planning department's report and recommendation prepare the august twenty fifth two thousand and fifteen meeting as it's fighting for a fact conclusion of law and decision in order and to authorize the director of planning to transmit said written decision in or on behalf of landing commission  all who look like you i can comment on that i've been on that as we've been working with our zoning division and as the director mentioned what we're trying to do is  legally establish an existing non conforming use and what triggered this having happened is they wanted to build a new facility and so what we're trying to cover through this machine use permit is any other type of just the related to the camp that could come up in the future so they don't have to go through this process again so in addition to permitting the specific building of a new dining hall on the permit it's a special use permit so it's for use and it's for use of the existing campground to continue as a campground and should let's see if they want to build more  play or music or campfire songs or whatever they wouldn't have to come in but if for example they wanted to rent out the facility to do a commercial concert that would be a problem so we're trying to limit it to just strictly camp uses that would be covered under this permit does that make sense it does but when you see rental for commercial use that would not be  be all part of a camp function but if they if they just wanted to bring five hundred people in for the night that wouldn't be covered in the permit and i don't even think the boy smelts would allow something like that but he wouldn't be covered that they don't have to come back first or an amendment to the security for future camp uses more camp more cabins something that's going to be used for campground uses if it's something outside of that then no this does not allow for it and we're going to make sure that the  it or something really strange i don't know what it would be you know if they were certain want to start building talk concerts you know this turns into an entire venue or something like that that there have been no representations made that they want to do anything like all the representations thus far have been they want to continue the boy scout camp in that function and then you know the way that it if we start seeing building permits and start for things very unusual things we would we would really question that and we this is something we regularly do when applicants come in they wan automatically built in sure i'm so i'm all for the boy scouts i've stayed at the camp it's all so fantastic cap so what about us is this is the least able to be transferable or are sold basically what it is it's to connect the speech that you know it rains a lot out there so when there outdoors we can go under the the building and it's going to be all so they can continue their activities so i think i think of all of the organizations that exist on the island boy scout is one of the few working at stations that makes a significant contribution to building the character of our young people  really pleased that the applicant has generated the funding for an improvement of this scope i've been involved in scouting for about fifteen years about fifteen years ago and  be doing the presentation p a pressure you said not for the better breakfasts as we have chelsea here the consultant doing the presentation but as she'd be doing it we did have one opposition which i'll be passing it around to you as she this is the location on the north shore are four bedrooms she stays in one and she's proposing to rent three bedrooms out to bed and breakfast guests you see the property to the left which is to the west is a lot and actually the opposition letter that you received that simple just handed out now is the only opposition letter for this project and the people who own that vacant lot are the family that wrote the letter which michelle responded to sharing their concerns and addressing them to the east there's another home on that lot and you can see that are actually you know homes certainly within two hundred fifty to three hundred feet from the proposed bed and breakfast home all this area could expand into parking if necessary but there are definitely the the really spots for the three guest rooms and the two parking spaces for the owner this is a shed and this is a shed everything is permitted on this property and so here's where we start talking about the agricultural nature of the lot you saw from the last slide that it's all and green and this part of the property is all occupied by horse pasture which the owner hosts rescue horses and lets them stay here free of charge and just to while away the rest of their lives in safety and tranquility of this property the rest of the property is also covered with  palm and mango trees and some there's some black bamboo there's a banana stand here i'll show you all of that but definitely the main agricultural feature of this property is the horse pasture which will be of course maintained  in this is the rear view of the house with the horse pasture here and that's the house another view and this is the other side this is actually looking at it from the parking area this is bedroom one michelle saw the owner is actually owns a decorating interior decorating and staging company with her mother and so they've taken great pride in making the rooms really nice and the whole home this is bedroom number two these two bedrooms are on the main ground floor and the third bedroom is upstairs and this is the only upstairs that there is there's just this one bedroom this is one of the bathrooms there are three bathrooms in the home two of them are available to guests or will be available to guests and this is the second one this is the dining  in the living room area and here's the farm plan on the site plan so you can see again the horse pasture this whole area is very  private landscape or scaped to give lots of privacy to the neighbors this side is the vacant lot over here owned by the materials family plants and nature i do emphasize that this is probably the main feature for their a cultural character of the property there's  a rescue horse and there she is again another few are just a list of the flowers and the trees that we've already mentioned and one rescue horse i also added yesterday with michele that  tranquil rural character of the property and the neighborhood she plans to carefully screen the guests using revue based companies like b where any of the guests would have to give a thorough description of themselves to identify whether it's a good match for michelle who lives in the home and the property in the neighborhood and then also air b provides a platform for former hosts to review any guests any potential guests but actually michelle plans to focus more on her networks with neuer arts center she sits on the board they're very closely networked with the merlin conservancy and palm society as well and with the local community so they're really planning having hosting guests through that would come to them through these networks so they're kind of friends of friends and will be vetted in that way the rest of these ho amplified sounds beyond the property boundaries no parties and any group gatherings would have to be with registered guests and parking of courses on the property there's plenty of space but  sentially michaud once to have this bed and breakfast have no impact on the neighborhood so that neighbors and people in the area would actually not even notice that there are guests there there are no agency comments when when the state office and real property tax office and police department were asked to comment they had no  cap of eighty eight and of course we're a b and b application but in reference to short term rentals there on august first only thirty seven permitted short term rentals cup of eighty eight so this is a little page about the owner of the property lived on maui for twenty five years and she is very active in the local community she was a teacher at st anthony's high school for seven years and when we were talking yesterday preparing for the meeting she mentioned that this experience of being a high school teacher definitely helped her guests and making sure that they had here to the tranquility of that set up for this property she was also previously a realtor so she has experience with property management and everything that goes along with one of the reasons that michelle is wanting to rent these rooms out on a bed and breakfast basis is that she has two special needs nieces who live on the mainland and she has  two of them have special needs and she to give her brother a break and let them keep their marriage together she hosts her and takes care of these nieces for two to three months of the year and they stay in this house and in these are brooms in the guest room so she wants to be able to rent them out and make some extra income while the nieces are not they're not occupying the rooms and and also when they're her nieces are here her work she she spends more time with than with her nieces and family than working so this would be a nice way for her to offset the loss of income for when they're here and and then the last thing is rescue horses on the pasture in the pasture on her property thank you for considering this special  so the more we cannae planning department recommends to them all the planning commission approval of the land use commission special use permit subject to the regular standard conditions one through seven number seven being that the f department recommends at the maui planning commission that the planning department report and recommendations prepared for the august twenty fifth twenty fifteen meeting as the findings of fact conclusions of law and decisions in order and authorize the p breakfast which would be on the east who hear road that would probably be the closest but that's not the permit one let me go back to her  so if you look at this area it won't be the nearest one will be not even on this map so would be late more down in that and that would be the closest one but that's the only pending that's close in but if you need some time i can i can generate that for you but like i said the short term rentals i thirty seven permitted and i know there are thirty three permitted b and b s but i know you kind of want to see a visual on the map  sorry i don't have that information either you don't have i don't have that information either i don't know where all the other ones are located in the area writing a letter to the planning director to voice your concerns regarding businesses in your neighborhood and about rezoning the kind of business in the area we understand your concern as parents and grandparents about allowing strangers into the neighborhood i am also very concerned about who comes into our neighborhood as this is my home my family including my parents and young special needs nieces spend months at a time visiting here it is imperative that our guests are safe and respect i assure you we will be fighting them thoroughly also participating in this application process we have come to learn that the county has much more control over better breakfast businesses than they do over the long term rentals for example the police department is asked to comment on our application which includes a report of any history of police reports stemming from the subject property also the county imposes quiet hours on the losing their permit if sound is audible beyond the boundaries during non quiet hours and this is more excessive than would otherwise be associated with a residential area ampl sound that is so unlike long term rental rules this property requires that all vehicles shall be parked in the designated on site parking area and shall not be parked on the street also a bed and breakfast businesses operating on agriculturally zoned land are required to prove that the bed and breakfast business will not take away from agricultural use of land it's a rather rigorous rigorous screening process in our case we very much look forward to sharing the agricultural character of our property and neighborhood with our guests lastly in our case i live in the rental home so i will be on hand to make sure our small business has no impact on our neighborhood and that everyone is safe and treated with respect ultimately our bed and breakfast business will go completely unnoticed by our neighbors sincerely michelle school owner that was written on may twelfth  further question hill water rates are not affected by a bed and breakfast permit or not and the property rates the ag rates are changed and it kicks it into a category that's called residential commercial and the rate is i think right now it's about four point four zero per thousand dollar assessed value i don't understand that but what it is a great is something less than it's let's put it this way it's about twice the regular ag rate per property tax and it's a half the tax property tax rate of the short term rental home so it's right in between about i just  now so you have two lane highway two lane road going to all the all the mouth which i believe is a county road however is not paved or rated very often but it is a two lane   so it's it's it's a dirt road it is it's unpaved and it has gravel it is a county road however and then all the neighborhoods every once in a while participate in putting gravel down like if we have extra probable put it in or a neighbor down the way will put it in or a matter of fact i'm having some young men put in i talked to follow ups of mr kerry's and he told us how to fix a is definitely has pressure wave and it has all of the rock and everything like that doesn't get muddy but we do get potholes every once in awhile and like i said the neighbors kind of all participate in filling that when they are and they do occur during the whatever you know having you operate in the hotel next to me might be a problem if you were to yes first i'd like to say i say something but many hotel because i really this is my home i want a few visitors to come sporadically certain times of the year so i don't see it as having a lot of people come in but i certainly wouldn't object to anybody on agricultural land doing on  home anyway and her name is grace and she will help me at this point i mean people coming go but i will have assistance and she's great i love her so i just like to comment on you know small business thank you we'll take a five minute recess it's pretty much built out at this point but it's an ongoing thing and you know throughout the years another portion gets built for example to schools but recently looking able to tell us right now  three hundred excess units we should do a show or a bank has all of the off site requirements for the for this project district in complete no they're not and that that obligation corner of the north east corner go west corner of your community resource offering advanced training and digital technology