for coming to the buildings and grounds come may be meeting this is the first one of the year he said we have we keep missing a lot of events going on in the schools because we have meetings where we like to do is to in fact number three on and we were speaking about mcmurray at that time as well we talked about the scope the phasing we reviewed some additional options that the board requested to be added into the scope and then you also authorized planned con for reimbursable project for mcmurtrie that you voted on in january meeting and i'll talk later about the next step regarding that process since that point in september we've surveyed the building several times with our engineers and staff we've met with the ministration and the school staff to review the project scope to make sure they're on board as well as the phasing in how the construction is going to unfold and they're also proceeding with our design documents as well so we put together this power points to kind of walk through the presentation i also put it in front of everybody as a handout tonight take your pick how you want to follow along first topic mcmurry elementary school you've recently had your survey done over there for some of the movement that's occurring on a yearly basis all review those findings and then again getting into the miscellaneous improvements project for slating for the starting th summer we have some costs additional considerations the phasing in a timeline review there and then after mcmurry have some topics regarding the high school that rod asked us to look at and to present to you tonight whether or not you want to proceed with them or not and then just finally to give you an update on this building's project as well so moving forward first item of business is the floor findings survey findings and this slide here included this this this page here it's just one page this is actually the documentation that comes from elliott surveying located here in the district  illustrates the number of periods that have been you've been monitoring ever since two thousand and ten when we were asked to also kind of deserve and monitor these points with you two thousand and ten two thousand and eleven twelve thirteen and finally in fourteen december first was the last time that they were these elevation shot there's about one hundred thirty points throughout the building that they return to continue to shoot and monitor to see if there's any floor changes happening over the years and we continue to monitor  the next side here rather than going picking through all these points i kind of summarized what my findings were after interpret ing that data and if you just go back to why this where this was occurring we noticed in that record or this is where the parents pick up their kids in the in the students leave the building that was where noticeably the most movement occurred back in two thousand and ten there is some call him shifting some cracks in the walls that became a concern also in the office area was the the the walls that are are buckling above the ceilings ceiling tile shifting the doors at the main entrance having to be cut so that's kind of initiated this process all along so we're talking about buckling we're not talking about any structural damage that would fall upon our students or anything no nothing like that at all it's the building structure itself is completely sound  it movement the subgrade material that's the it's expansive is only moving the floor slab itself on the first floor the rest of the structure is ok so it's the floor slab that we're seeing those those differences and movement in and anything that's constructed on that on that slab they could be a stud wall all non bearing walls for that for the most part could you point out please some of the figures that you have look at the very top page for the folks that are watching  the changes and those areas that you find that have made the most change so yes everyone will have an idea too yeah and like i said there's one hundred thirty points all along this first floor that we monitor and i highlighted the areas that i wanted to point out that we've discussed in the past or are showing a little bit of change from the from the original points that we shot so in the back court or here that area is showing no significant movement at this point actually there's only a been an eighth of an inch and change of difference from two thousand and ten readings so at this point maybe all the movement has already occurred or it's just slowing down at some point so moving forward in this boiler room mechanical room area again this is showing a little bit more change in movement there's three eighths of a difference plus or minus depending upon where those elevations were shot  most significant and i say significant just based upon what we've just recently found the area around the stage that back ramp the front portion of the multipurpose room in the middle of the building that seems to be continuing to move it's very slow it's nothing to be alarmed about but it is still moving right now compared to two thousand and ten readings again eighth of an inch to a half an inch we see movement still occurring there the other two remaining areas that i highlighted was the main lobby and that's noticeably you see when you walk in you can see the hump in the floor there and then this back stairs well behind the office area again those that's showing little or no movement at all in fact it seems like some of those areas are even seem to be settling the points are back to where they were intended so in general i think it's just something we continue to monitor you continue to  watch we continue to read make to shoot these elevations watch them again next year read them have your maintenance staff just keep their eye out for any tiles that ceiling tile that become dislodged or shifting doors that become tight equipment that you know they're using to shoot typically feet in its sights and we're trying to get down to the eighth of an inch so there's some also some tolerances of reading that so that could explain some of the eighth of an inch readings that we're we're coming up with there and it also could be that it's just still still moving some some pirated material so but none of the movements none of the the the measurements that we were you observed or are nuff to action at this point is to summarize what the findings were so you tell us a measurement where you would say once it gets to x that's when we would get things i would say probably  over three quarters of an inch and still if it would happen over a long period and no structural damage is occurring to the building then it's perhaps something you could even live with at that time it would have to be a case by case instance but if you recall at our september meeting when we were talking about the scope to be included with the upcoming project here we kind of left the office area out of any major improvements flooring just for the simple fact that if you ever went down the path of having to do any remediation for the pyrite you wouldn't redo it in the future so at this point since knowing these findings i think it's probably w still continue down that path any questions on this that i can answer i apologize for coming in late for are you will we be receiving a formal report with respect to that i haven't i can i mean i haven't been charged to ever prepare a report yet i've kind of just given you a summary of the findings and i got this report i mean you receive from eliot it kind of documents the history of what's happening there i think i sent a note to the school district to just explain summarizing the findings but if you'd like ok moving on to the current project here just an overall site plan showing the campus here with the bus garage mcmurry elementary district office just to get your bearings the next page here is showing an enlarged view of the make murray site and at the last meeting we were present at there was some discussion about adding some additional parking to the scope of work and we've met with the ministration about what logistically would be the best locations for more parking on site and this site plan is trying to represent that we discussed adding some parking over here in the in the   you can see that they're rather disjointed with trying to capture those on the bends of the of the turnaround so that was one option the other option was capturing some of the parking at the rear of the  bus lot you already have a natural access point that's fenced and gated to the back of the mcmurry lot if you choose to take away some of that bus parking and you can capture about twenty four  parking spaces in that rear bus lot for visitor parking parent parking you can see that you'll see later in a later slide that we intend to use that area for construction parking  visitors because we're going to be using a some of the parking for a staging area for contractors so in a temporary basis it would be used that area for visitor parking and surplus parking needed for the  school but if it's your desire to make that more permanent we can capture total twenty four parking spaces i think we also met with the the transportation director and they were in the agreement that some of those buses that are parked in that river lot can be moved closer to the bus garage itself so they would still have a home run you can expand upon that if there's any other discussion or we were going to move  plugged in and kept operational and still provide the turning radius for those the to navigate around the building also located on this site plan was behind the  school itself there's two exits off of the back of the building out of the classroom wing and when you come out of that onto that sidewalk there was concern that there's not an accessible path to maneuver someone disabled in its will chair what have you to a safe area and there's a sidewalk currently that wraps around the school to the play ground  but that walk is a little steep and it doesn't meet today's code required percentage that allows you to maneuver on a with a will chair so what we're proposing here is if you extend that sidewalk further out and and run with the grade a little longer and lengthen it it will give you that that code required slope to navigate a wheelchair and then also on the other side the west side there's no real means to access the parking lot from that direction and we were proposing a set of stairs here basically that sidewalk just dead ends at that side and you just walk through the grass to get down to the parking lot  those are two additional considerations that you have the option of of adding to the scope i have some costs later in the presentation here you can help make your decision with and then while we're on the slide one of the other  to it is but once you have the the the sidewalk on one side you're you're obligated make meeting your obligation to the to the code when you mean no obligation for a code that is would it be better for us and as a class compare not i don't expect an answer how but is it something we least consider so that since most your parking is over there if you're going to have an emergency vehicle come in the pick up somebody they would probably come in on that side is they want the other side to or we did look at that this is been a topic for actually a couple years now and the if you put a ramp on the other side it would require a switch back it's the elevation there is a little higher and we just thought at that time it would be easier to put the ramp sidewalk on that side but again there's nothing to prevent you that putting ramps on both sides or we're just putting it on the one side and not put the stairs in so y on the other hand was there you're not the right person to ask these guys are was their intention behind making it dead end was that to discourage loitering or was there reason it that's a that's actually a storm retention area that we can't  and then the last item i want to just point out here was just the extent of the parking lot everything in gray that you see surrounding mcmurry elementary school i haven't added cost here you'll see later if you want to consider resurfacing that asphalt there  including in this this project scope what is the contention i haven't paid any attention to that what is the condition of that asphalt it's has several potholes in it there's there's a lot of cracks that are just spidering throughout the the drives the parking lots it's going to need to be addressed soon probably within the next couple of years ok thank you and i have a question about the road coming in and so you have some cards parked towards the school some cars parked away from school and there's only room for one vehicle to enter so what happens is if somebody wants to everybody comes out at the exact same time and you go to leave and there's somebody coming this way and somebody coming this way and it becomes completely blocked because a standstill nobody can get out now like if i were to say you know moneywise rather resurfacing depending on what the condition of verse is using that money to widen it if that possibility exists i think the widening would provide great relief so that you could have parking on both i didn't know if the bank had in fact purchased that along the way or you know miss anderson are you speaking from where the entrance of the garage is to the school itself because that is that it i believe so that's the when i arrived that's we were maintained on both sides so there's a covert deep set covert back in where that knob of the green vegetation low for the back right there that is would probably be only hindering thing of whiting that road in that area there but it's nice when say it would be and it's not impossible and it's deep over here on it's very steep and it's a sidewalk driven on this side anyway so i don't think we'd want to alter that structure would be moving more to the bus crouch where we definitely own those property rights we can look at the original site plan of when mcmurry was constructed i think it goes all the way out to mcmurray road and see what the lease then what the property boundaries were might meet maybe get some parallel parking and whenever it's just the fact that when whenever and have a big event occurs there's no other option because there's no other room to park so everybody parks you know on both sides know next slide page seven is a just an enlarged plan of the side of the building we discussed several features over here last meeting and i wanted to show you the final determined location of the of the  proposed location is going to be near where the current dumpsters are there's this area is a little larger to handle the size of the of the cooling tower and the chiller and that location we added that will be enclosed with a fenced in area on two sides and then on the third the fourth side here a screened wall to help contain the the acoustics noise coming from that and then another  brick wall on this side adjacent to the classroom wing also to contain the acoustics coming from that and then the dumpsters themselves will be moved to the further back along the rear of the building in this location here and they will not have a surround they'll have some some pipe bollards painted that contain that area in a corral without any type of fence or gate on them we talked about at the last meeting so that's the direction that side of the buildings taking their next few slides are just a reiteration of the of the plan here nothing really to to discuss one thing i wanted to point out was that ron did have voles environmental come in and do a full survey of the building for anything that could be possibly as best as and it was found the building is this best for itself and makes demolition activities very easy for this project without having to wrestle with that with that entity and likewise we assumed it was going to be negative that considering the age of the building there should be no on page eleven again this is a reiteration of the the last presentation we made this identifies the project scope these are all the same costs that we reviewed at that last meeting again new unit ventilators throughout the building reconditioning the air handling units the new chiller new piping new pumps new temperature controls throughout the building new ceilings in all the affected spaces new lighting new fire alarm system new windows and then on the next page on page twelve i've added these two that to the project scope these were i do that we discussed last meeting now they're included in the total project costs this is the wall painting and all the classrooms while we're in those spaces  we thought we'd address the walls the floors is the next line item in all those classrooms the dumpster area explained the gutters and downspouts along the exterior of the building the magnetic hold opens on the doors the stair an an alternate bid proposal for the lights yeah i put it on the next slide here on page thirteen at the at the bottom here if you have an alternate bid can substitute l e d fixtures in lieu of the base bid for us and fixtures great thank you and also on this slide these are all the related costs the previous slides were the basic construction costs that's what we're likely to see after we open bids in addition to that we have some outside costs that are going to be needed for the project to continue that includes the commissioning having an outside agency come in and check and balance all the quitman that's being installed i did include a line item here i know there's been some discussion about having a clerk of the works on the project i just included an allowance here this is no set figure but this would be an average cost for a thirteen to fourteen month period full time if you feel as though it's something you can scale back to part time obviously that could be less and then also the construction document and printing building plan review allowance i have that in here is an allowance item after some discussion with the township i have a feeling this is going to go to zero they said that the building permit any plan review fees are going to be waived for the school district so that's good news but i just wanted to carry that here in case something else pro our were finalizing our design and we submit that to them before we receive bids our fees and then also still in carrying just that ten percent contingency until we open bids the related costs are about a million dollars on top of the construction costs make taking the total project cost to five point five eight five million who will be doing the as builds the drawings the contractors will  there as built drawings and they'll be turned over to the district when they're complete so they'll document any changes that are defer that are different from what we produce initially so questions up to this point one item that with it's i've taken out of this related costs is the cost for the modular classrooms i know there's been some discussion since i was here last about reusing some space in the existing building and not having a need for those modulars go through the phasing here in a second but that was a significant cost that's not included here any more that you can apply towards other construction work in the building rather than something temporary outside in the and also identified the the reimbursable amount for this project if you're reimbursed at your fact of reimbursement is off almost eighty seven percent so you're getting quite a bit of a good share from the state to you paid cash for the project they'll give you a lump sum so it's a matter of how you set up your proceeds would still have to get in here for that right yes and that's part of the queue is the process we're going through right now when we have a meeting with p d next week for the first plan con parts and be next thursday and then following that is the that's just the schematic design or view and then there's several other views after that to get into the system ok so the next slide here is some of these additional considerations that the ministration in their discussions with me had asked that we bring to the table here for you to consider whether or not you want to add to the scope or not right now these are not included in any of our documents or preparing or the previous project cost so the first litum is what we talked about on the site plan this is that concrete walking th building that goes to the playground that's an added thirty eight thousand stairs at the opposite side of the building that's an add of twenty five thousand i also have an allowance in here while concrete work may be occurring there are several there's quite a bit of sidewalk along that rear of the building and out front that's either sprawled or cracked or shifting they could be replaced at this time i have an allowance  of sixty three thousand to replace those curbs and walks not all of them just a portion of them resurfacing the existing drives and parking lots and addressing some of the storm inlets that are starting to collapse  that's an added three hundred eighty eight thousand and then that the two parking areas first the the bus parking lot at the rear of the bus garage to get another twenty four parking spaces  that's an ad of sixty and then one thousand over by the turnaround that i showed on the site plan that's an ad of thirty five thousand those are all the site related items we do any of th that's a good question because none of the no side improvements are included in are eligible for reimbursement those first set of items would not be if you add them it's still the same amount as previously shown on the other slide and another question i have i guess ministration is that not those nine hundred parking spaces i'm guessing that could never be used during school hours because that's where they have is that where they have recess right now that would only be to try to solve the issue that we have for the large after school events and much of that is what you had noted it's that it's really the jam up trying to get back out we really have to do something to solve that issue with people parking on the size and know that they put up a horse the last large event put up horses on the one side to prevent people from parking on both sides it's not a perfect solution to the problem but again this is this is going to be for parking for afterschool activities and the twenty four car parking lot is that something that the transportation department  us and thought that it would be a good solution would be to not be problematic it's really good problem solver ok so i'm confused it's already paid down it's already lined for buses why is there sixty thousand dollars involved in converting it to parking spaces there's a fence that needs to be installed along that area that's what i have shown again that's i guess up for discussion separating the bus area from the parking area so it's still not a drive through anymore there's some asphalt that's needed to go back to that slide there's some asphalt that's needed to widen that entrance point it's only a single lane right now to promote true two way traffic in and out of that lot and then re striping this area as well there's some  remaining items additional considerations are the adding new metal coping over top of the existing stone coping along around the perimeter of the flat portions of the roof if you remember  several discussions previous i shared some pictures with you about some of that masonry damage along the brick along that top pair pit and a lot of it had to do with water entering that stone coping at the head joints and migrating down into the the wall itself and blowing the brick apart this solution would just cap that stone and create a barrier of water entering that wall below so  suggested that i include this as an additional consideration for you to consider to add scope there's also three broken glass block windows at that monumental stair that are very up up very high in that space that have cracked most likely due to contraction of material surrounding it that's the cost three thousand dollars to replace that we're talking about three individual blocks are we talking about three blocks windows three individual blocks this yeah the cost is high only because you need scaffolding to erect it to to get to the three point three three blocks that are cracked scary but the backup generator this was a request by the technology department to add in the data closets  three different locations throughout the building there's no emergency power in there should the building go into you know the power go off in the building the servers basically shut down so this this allows them to continue on the generator power that would be running in switch on in the building and what size would that be in that what size generator the generator would stay what it is now i think it's hundred k v a generator in there transfer switch coming from that generator it's supplies three panels currently one for emergency lighting one for life safety like life safety systems and then lastly for non essential emergency items and it may have been permitted by the code at the time but the new code actually requires that there's two switches present for each panel that are serving it whether or not you want to bringing up to today's code even even doing that the degree of alterations that we're doing yes because we're not really touching that that side of the of the electrical service or the emergency system yeah i'm not really probably the person to ask what the the logic behind that was but i am though and mr dunn levy you don't want all the emergency load to come on at one precise moment when the need arises you want those switches to be staggered with the most priority life safety equipment coming lights and exit signs and things of that nature to come on first then equipment have a delay built into it with another switch to bring that equipment on you know whether it be two minutes or five minutes later that's the reason for multiple automatic transfer switches it could potentially stall the generator i mean it's very it's remote but in the building was built that was the design and that's what the engineers used in but going through twenty plus years of upgrades in revelations they've seen faults happen and that is why multiple transfer switches are used we do that at the high school when that when and when the renovation was made there in two thousand and a question about when the your general fund pays back the capital the bond is off the bond so when you apply and to pennsylvania department of education they will reimburse you net comes back into the general fund i'd like to move back to one item mr friends about the glass block when as there are more than three individual a p class blocks that are broken are there yes so i'm a bit confused about that i looked at that as three individual three and a vandal units yeah group was the one that was putting that together that may be the case i assumed it was individual but there are more than three yeah i'd like to suggest if because of the pressure on the outside of them that we not go back to them that we go to something different you know because i use it is seems silly to try to replace a glass block windows that broke for some reason with another set of glass block windows that stand a possibility of breaking again so i like to go with something else of possible we look i looked at any possible mechanisms of vandalism or just horseplay and i can find them in so there has to be something with the materials or the shift  include some type of expansion joint around the perimeter when we do replace them they seem to be awfully tight in there and they're on a circular plan if you know where they are in the building their own back to that  right on this center and this is the third floor of the right they're located in a rounded portion of the building you're trying to put a square piece on a round face so they get very tight when they're wedged together and we were going to when we replace those allow some extra movement in there there are only three of those windows are there more there's many there's more i thought believe there's six to nine probably not because they're there on all three elevations and to best of my they're skewed someone but they're on all three elevations to best of my knowledge the ones we're talking about on one level though yeah they're all so we can all arc a lot hum she's architectural windows that meet the rest of the building on that one level and if we have problems later just changes bottom to could yes you know it just doesn't seem to make sense to me to know replace something that has the opportunity to possibly break again and replacing them with a window similar to what we're replacing in the rest of the building  obviously that's going to be more than the three thousand dollars i mean glass windows going to be probably three apiece probably three times that that cost at that point so but that's certainly an option and the other discussion regarding the issue of considerations at some point will need to you know make some decisions on whether or not these are added in or or not you know if we're prepared to do that tonight or you want to get back to me after you you have some thought about i know this is the first time you've seen these so i can get some input from dr french later maybe regarding these items yeah i think that's probably going to be good and those last few items you mentioned they would be possibly we reimbursable yes i mean the last one yeah the last are ok yeah the last four items correct and you would expect them to be  the metal coping expected to be a permanent solution to the issue yes it will be a permanent solution well i think there are some circumstances where i would recommend using metal coping as more or less a band aid and there are some places where you would use metal cutting isn't a true permanent casement and that was my question is this is this a stopgap measure or is this the fix ok is this replacing metal coping that was there previously you know there's just expose stone coping up there on top of the wall and it has gaps every four or five feet right now many of your other buildings have metal coping on them they were either retrofitted later or they were original in that condition in the middle as seamless so they will not let the water and where those ga previously existed in the stone below thank you ok the next few slides here are a brief discussion regarding the phasing just to update everyone on what the current process is that we've discussed with the ministration on the construction approach this slide age fifteen illustrates your current the blue arrows illustrate your bus traffic and the red arrows illustrate your current parent traffic and like i said previously when we were looking at this similar slide the rear of that parking lot there is going to be used as a contractor staging area if you recall that was the proposed location of the modulars during construction since those of went by the wayside this area can now be utilized for contractors trailers job trailer there are tool trailers and he laid down areas for equipment that will arrive on the site and that would be separated by a  temporary construction fence from the rest of the parking lot so and where will their parking for their employees be we discussed their parking could be located off site could possibly be at the back of the district office lot here they could walk time but they'll still be offsite so there won't be any congestion yeah i'm still i'm still concerned as sanderson pointed out about events going on coming in there and out whenever the activities at night time are taking place right there is about we lose about twelve parking spots in the back of the parking lot there with that area quarantined off once we capture that rear of the bus lot you know we're adding another twenty four back  so we have a surplus of what you currently have now just during construction whether or not you choose to make that a permanent parking lot or not you'll have twelve extra spots on site and no that was that was the plan yes in just my well let me present out today that's that's an incorrect statement that's when we move to the next slide here let me just show you how we were phasing the work  the second shift work was only going to occur during in the areas that are are simultaneously occupied by the the students and staff which is basically the yellow areas you see on this map  those are all the corridor or so anything that happens above the ceilings in the corridors to run piping wiring that would happen second shift all the remaining phases that happen during the school calendar year that would be happening concurrently during during school but those areas are going to be sectioned off from the rest of the students temporary walls will be built they won't have access beyond that point  sorry just walking you through this you have questions yeah i do i just want to make sure that all the technology requirements are going to be phased in in accordance with your agreement with with adam and different companies that will be installing that equipment yes you'll see under each phase here as we go through i have an a and a b for each phase phase a phase portion a is actually the construction duration  of ranges from four to five week period as you move through the school and that's when all the construction activity will happen in those colored areas the last week of that is portion be for each phase and that portion of the schedule allows you to go in address your technology upgrades that you're doing internally with adam your security system any new computer wiring technology for the smart boards i think he was going to integrate and also allows the teachers and staff to move in and out of those areas that were just worked on through so there's a week built in at each and the end of each phase two to accomplish that  france what happens to the contractor that week that technology is going on well they'll still continue to work in that yellow phase i mean they'll be back each evening to progress down the corridors and just prep for the next the next phase ok have with respect to event parking too we have an agreement with the library at all to use their parking spaces and if not could we make a short term arrangement with them that while we're doing this if we had events people could park in the library parking lot i don't believe that we have an agreement we can i can certainly explore one i don't know if anybody's aware we do have one and i think people use it already he knows events you know because it's everybody thin let me go through these these phases a little more in detail here the first phase june eighth is begins your summer break coming up here for two thousand and fifteen so that yellow phase and the pink phases would kick off then the pink phases starting are limited to just that first summer duration june eighth through august twenty first and that tackles the multipurpose room the kitchen  area the office area in the front so the office area would be done before students return so the office staff would only be inconvenienced during that first summer and then their area would be complete the rest of the construction period likewise for the back classrooms in the shelf space as it were referring to it as we're going to tackle that during that first summer because those are the six classrooms that are going to be used as the swing spaces later for the remaining phases those six classrooms that are dash there what have the students move in while their current classrooms being worked on and then move back out of there and allow the next group to move in after their areas complete and then on the second floor is the remaining pink area at the front face of the building the library area and the remaining classrooms up there so that all be tackled that first summer and so when students return we move into phase two that's the green area it's the in the art wing back here and again we're only describe relocating six classrooms at the most sometimes five as we move through these these phases and they always have a place to move into the rear of the building and that shelf space that phase lasts until october second and then finally is this classroom wing out front here and that wraps up november sixth for the construction then the first floor is done we move on to the second floor like i said previously this front portion of the building was already completed during the first summer and then we return to do these next two phases here phases four and five the vem birth through january those phases will occur we've kind of separated these these wings here to permit you know an easy construction temporary construction wall to be built across that core door and there should be no reason that students need to go to that rear portion of that of that wing of the building at that time while it's being worked on during the day scuse me are the i noticed the other restrooms down in this one section in the far section there know the restrooms are here and you have some more restrooms here ok so you have two sets of russian ok great i've always seem to have been in that far end that's what i was concerned about and then the remaining floor the third floor it's divided into four phases six through nine and again tackling five to six classrooms at a time in areas that are convenient to section off without disrupting student activities in the building during the day that phase not we have been showing completed august nineteenth and the veer summer break of that year is not until august twenty ninth so we have some leeway built in in case anything were to happen that were pushed back to the weather what have you but there's a couple weeks in there built into the schedule also that last phase phase nine if you choose to address any of those site  issues that we previously discussed that would be addressed during that summer sixteen as well after all the construction activity occurs in the building and the temporary construction trailers are removed and we'd resurface the lot said parking whatever whatever you choose to do at that time but that would be the approach we would take then finally since those elements are not reimbursable anyway is there any benefit to folding them into this contract or should they just simply be a separate contract sidewalks and asphalt and whenever you know they could be there's nothing that is already occurring under this scope that you know you're going to be saving any on any cost the because they're on site already so they could be their own separate project later over the phone at one thirty following that meeting the board should make a motion to authorize the next step of p t i think your meetings on the twentieth i can have a motion prepared and have  the appropriate documents and over for you guys to sign to kick off parts d and e that would be the next phase of that plan cond reimbursement and then we have that conference in february and then likewise you have to do the same in in the beginning of april receive bids the middle of april april fourteenth and then award your construction contracts that you're able to twentieth board meeting and then that gives some time for the contractors procure some of their materials that are needed for those first couple phases before they show up on site june eight the questions regarding that break holy thursday good friday when we don't have faculty and students in the building to the law contractors free pretty much free room if it's at all possible on vacation that we it if it's a professional development in service date the location could be flexible right so we just like do it somewhere else  next topic we're getting a message up there from the computer these next discussion items there's multiple here that mr gault asked us to to look at the high school that he's having some ongoing problems issues with that are affecting the performance of some of these items and jim can chime in on some of these as well we've looked at these together on a day that no one was in school the first item is the overall high levels of humidity located on the ground floor and also this the second floor of the building the t v studio area and then also the science labs what we were recommending here was to implement some type of sequences to your existing  equipment in the high school that would some cool the building and superheat the building in multiple sequences when the building's on occupied to condense the humidity level water that's in the air there and then it out is basically how the sequence works to do that you need to install humidity sensors and these trends do cers on your temperature control system to be able to monitor and  have it's not unique to peter's township it is common on just about any school that was done once the building codes are updated you probably all remember sick building syndrome and people getting sick  buildings that were not ventilated and a lot of that problem stems back to the energy crisis in the seventy's when they had people to what shut all the outside air dampers did lower their energy cost codes went overboard on recommended ventilation requirements so basically inadvertently if they would have just stated get them running the way they were supposed to in the old days prior when it had an issue they doubled the amount of outside air you're to bring in per person in the school that sounds great ok it's more fresh air that means everyone will be healthier they didn't or stand the unintended consequences of things like that that when you bring in all that outside air when it's more than humid and you don't have a big air conditioning load happening simultaneously you basically pump the building with water in it's not just the air that gets higher humidity so the relative humidity gets into things like the upholstery the carpets the books the ceiling tile and then it's much harder to get rid of that moisture so the codes dictated designing a certain way but they had a negative unintended consequence by just about anyone that has you know the later type school that says boxes that are on the floors of the classrooms and if they were an air conditioned facility those two things sort of work in tandem that if it's not a real hot loaded up day you don't squeeze enough water out of the air and you perpetually add more moisture to it that's the bad news the good news on it is that there is a way to remedy that with the universe in a later job we have some limitations can't do this when there's kids in the school because we're going to run the air conditioning system for maybe twenty thirty minute period uncontrolled which means we'll just make the buildings cold we possibly can with the chiller running in the pumps running that'll squeeze a lot of water out of the air off the unit ventilator coils will go down the condensate drains and go back outside problem will be able to do that for half an hour the building might be down to sixty degrees high fifty's certainly not comfortable enough to have any occupied folks in it so we do this at night once we run that squeeze water out for a set period of time and that will be adjustable because we'll look at unity before and then after but once we do that sub coaling based on just a run time and not a load then we shut things off for about twenty minutes with all that condensate water get off the coils drain pans and basically out of the building then we reengage the system in a heating only mode without any outside air coming back in and none of this is done with any outside air we run reheat the building back up to say seventy five or eighty in the hope that some cooling the reheat process the end result is your relative humidity level that might have been fifty five percent when you started should be well below fifty percent when you end and it would all be automatic we won't run it just to run it we're basically using all the pieces and parts that you have in the building as a big giant he made a fire the  we've been gauge that system right now for about three years and up to very good success does take a little bit of trial and error so to speak just because sometimes if it's really muggy out but not exceptionally hot sometimes we engage that system to run the cooling longer than the twenty or thirty minutes just to get more water out of the air and then bump back up the heat for a few minutes to get it back up to normal temperature  many it's really my fiance i know part of the estimate on construction costs are you miltie sensors throughout the building and when they when they sense that the relative humidity number is above say fifty or fifty five percent it  was that sequence to take place but only in the on occupied mode the other piece to this is going to be that summertime is when it's a late spring summer fall but summer seems to be the worst part because a lot of these buildings were set up to be fully air conditioned but the fact is they're not fully occupied or loaded up anywhere near what they would be during a normal school day and then result of that is the air conditioning systems don't have to work that hard there's no people there's no lights or there's very few people lights computers and whatnot so the real load in the building is much less than peak but if the building is still left to run off because there's a few people in it or some summer classes or whatnot all the systems left to run in the normal function are still bringing in all that mass quantity of outside air making the system or worse day in and day out the other item will probably look to institute would be a summer time occupied mode where we may just let the outside air be delivered by the air handling units enough to make up what's being exhausted by two at rooms on but have always unit ventilators basically lost out in a no ventilation or a much lower ventilation mode just because there's no need to meet you know one hundred thousand c f m of outside air there aren't a thousand kids in the school at any given time at that point and again that's something we did on a macguffin to sort of catch the problem before it starts and that's almost one of the best things that you can do is just limit the amount of time you're online in the occupied mode and then in occupied mode limit the amount of fresh air you bring in because there's no reason to bring it in there aren't the people to account for i notice that that comment here it refers to the ailing science and the t v studio is that not a problem for the rest of the high school or is it that's the place where the equipment is affected and the chemicals are a fact no way to stop it right and that's why for trying to the amidah five schools we try to just do it in one area we might do it there but all the other areas still combine to it so they're all really way to do it is to hit the whole thing mr excuse me will this take care of the issues that the office areas where the air conditioning seems to be breaking down over periods of time right now there's a coil problem or but i would i'm not sure what we're doing here would make it any better or worse yeah that's that's what we're working on right now as this is the coil issue that's that should that sounds like a totally independent separate issue or problem it's not really related to the humidity i just want to make sure we look at that in the process of fixing our heating and air conditioning in that building i want proper one question on this area that we're looking at primarily to science when t v studio we're going to head solve the mystery problem there are we still need to do something with the equipment in there besides humidity we've had problems with that unit down there failing several times yes and that's in a later line item make sure you know  is it is not uniform is not in in this package but this was the first initiative that we felt had to take place we we do have proposals for the replacement of the for the t v studio from an independent from three independent contractors right now it is in a similar such a situation as the district office was it is getting by with one compress  the second item there was up there some on the unwanted noise and vibration above the second floor science room they were here we took a look above equipment on and off to get a feel of your hands on first hand experience as to what's happening made a fairly simple recommendation we think should solve the problem at least as a first step it's very inexpensive and that there's just some noise that transmits itself down through the make up air units to the floor below and it just perpetuates itself through a sheet metal duct we made a recommendation of installing some heavier density insulation insulation a wrap on the ductwork that would absorb that sound for one so we don't get the noise coming straight through the sheet metal and then one of the other items and seemed to be that was what bothers people so much is the light fixtures in the ceiling in that corner going back into the prep room just rattle around a lot then that's really what's i mean you can hear the fan running it's that's not arguable but that rattling light fixtures to me at least the easiest  most annoying piece of that equation and where that light fixture is hung off the deck you know with the cable and it's very close to the actual same location where the duct work is also screwed up with the strapping into the deck so with that box moving at all which it is because it's got a fan and a unit on top of it that vibration transmits itself right to that light fixture so we're recommending to something as simple as it's get the light fixture wire and hang or move so it's not so jason to that duct hanger so with all of the light rattling around and that work we made recommendations on the insulation manuf you know represented that would sell that type of insulation with the make and model number third item was wrong and ask us to take a look at how feasible realistic it would it be to air condition the kitchen for some reason or other forever on schools poor folks that work in the kitchen always seem to be the the ones least taking care of if there is air conditioning it's always somewhere else in their reality the poor folks that work in the kitchen are probably the ones that are subject to the worst conditions of temperatures and humanity again i'm not sure why those kind of things were always done but they always seem to be an afterthought until people have to work at it so we took a look there so we're recommending what we call variable refrigerant flow system it's basically a split system air conditioning unit instead of having an outside condenser that goes with an interior cassette they're all pipe together to one outside condensing unit so you don't have a convincing it farm to take care of and you just connect the inner pieces together with her fridge or in piping controls so we took a look at where we could spot the equipment and where we could potentially remove some you know not non essential shrubbery so to speak so we'd have some refrigerant pipe that we'd have to hide through the walls work above ceilings a lot not so that's our cost at air conditioning to the kitchen itself just as a question could a mitsubishi type wall unit be used in this circumstance what this very very bored fridge or inflow that is a mitsubishi made system but instead of just the wall unit with a matching condensing unit in this case you might have four or five of those will have the wall units that would look just like  that seen one instead be having five condensing it's outside we'll just have one thank you it's a more up some more effective way to do that because we won't have to have five connections high voltage power connections to the outside we just have one number four was up the pool equipment chemical storage room where the chlorine is mentioned they had a leak of some sort one day somebody spilled some of the chlorine i guess and the general exhaust capacity which is enough in normal situations to remove that kind of odor was unable to keep up with a real heavy dose of some nasty stuff getting away so we took a look at that thing ok what's possible without getting too crazy is that we could use the existing duct system that was size for that smaller capacity put a two speed fan that had a larger capacity on the roof and in normal situation would run that it's current speed in you know  exhaust delivery but if there ever was a situation where something spilled in the people still off the work and there there be a manual switch they could kick up the high speed when they do that that duct system will become very noisy could be exhausting about twice the amount of air that's currently going through it so that velocity will be a noise issue but again you know in that kind of a situation annoys issue is preferable to you know a heavy buildup of chemicals especially if the folks have to be in there to be doing some troubleshooting or solving the problem it started in the first place so again just make a demand for a bigger fan and wired up give it to speeds which basically had a normal normal operation o b s what you have now and there be a purge operation where it would double the amount that you could pull out at any have enough work to do in mcmurray in those phases that if we start to give mechanical guy too much we're going to risk him potentially those five six week time periods on the phasing we don't want him spending his time here because it's important that he has his job scope and schedule to match the other trades at mcmurray which one is my forward but in this one i would strongly recommend that not be integrated with the good mcmurry contract they contractors kept parked off if they have to do multiple locations for no apparent rates than i remember five was reported to the boiler room it's excessively hot when the boilers are running this is a little unusual most complaints in boiler rooms because of how much combustion air you have to let into them they run really cold in the wintertime you start opening up combustion air dampers in the wind's blowing most folks complain that you get spots in that room that are almost like the outside this room is a little bit of an anomaly in the fact that i guess given its size and its total height that it's the old mezzanine world a water heater storage tank used to be the heat does build up in there more than one would ever suspect so we're recommending is sort of a twofold approach one to put an actual powered and controlled a ventilation system that when the borders are firing only in much combustion is needed is physically brought into the room instead of mother nature doing whatever she wants one that should know reduce heating costs a little bit because we're not letting massive amounts of outside air in air we can bring in controlled what's needed for each boiler firing and then there's actually a fairly convenient roof curb it's been kept overtop that mezzanine where we could put an exhaust fan so the combination of controlled air into the room with an exhaust fan we could actually keep track of how much air is coming in the fire the boilers and at the temperatures get to elevated we could ramp that up and also ramp on the exhaust fan base and get a lot more air through that whole entire space i'd like to point out that that particular room you speaking of a boiler room actually contains our electrical service so you have to set a switch here in that room that are being a subject at all to all that heat that's a lot of that's also heat gain in of itself you know you know the reason why that room heats up more because that's always giving off  so this would address that sure but should we should we be looking at doing one piece of it to see if that's enough before we do the second beast i think it we could however given helps simple with a limited scope the exhaust part of it is it it would probably be shortsighted not to just put that in with it i got because i mean if you can see if you go to want to roof and look down there's an on yours to roof curve three by three with a sheet metal cap over it it's as simple as popping the cap and putting a fan on taking the power right up through the portal it's there i got you know that's that's the easy part of that job next item six again this is one of those items that anytime were designing jobs are asked to retrofit and if the building is going to be air conditioned there's usually a big political discussion we are conditioned gymnasiums who do not air condition it's usually a spirited discussion amongst many districts often in the process of the signing it we would argue to say at least let us look at it from an alternate bit standpoint because if we're going to have to water in a building and running it all past the gym doesn't cost that much to pump it up and pipe in and put coils in in this instance when his job was done i'm sure the politics of the day were we don't air condition gymnasiums trouble that is can't use them very well in the middle of summer because it's too hot  not unusual to have these discussions fold one high school did this how many years ago did you do ball one the first time five or six tops and they didn't want to air condition the gymnasiums came back year and a half ago we want the air gymnasiums to be air condition no easy way around that we had take off four units that had life in them and put units up that would add the air conditioning but they got what they wanted so it's similar arrangement here we've estimated it both on the main gym and on the exhilarate jam and in this case the total will never broken up and what two hundred seventy five thousand dollars the main gym one hundred twenty five for the auxiliary gym in this instance this is boman these could be done one of the time if you so choose to do just the main gym and not the auxiliary jam both systems would be independent anyway so it's something that could be broken up but we've total b s them at the pick up both at the same time and in an instance like this want both of them once would be less expensive than doing one now and say one a few years from now because you're doing the same type of work with the same contractor you get a little bit better order of magnitude bid from someone bidding you know half a million dollars worth of wrestling wrestling practice i've observed i've observed student study halls i believe in there i've observed students in there with faculty baseball and what we've looked at here too unlike the bald one where they had to truly throw away fairly reach you know new equipment because there was no way out you have interior air handling units as the air delivery means we walked up and both  of the other but they both look workable enough that we could break the units apart slide the one section back and be able to incorporate a direct expansion of coal and oil and then both them back together so we're not throwing away anything that you bought already we're just spending labor money to go manipulate them to go fit  any more questions on that one and we'll go to the last one which was the subject of discussion earlier this evening we were asked to look at the poll we think that's part contributor to the high humidity level i mean if walk at least a day we walked in there which was probably because the return air fan was or motor was on its way out the pool was running under a positive pressure by that i mean the air pressure in the pool was greater than of adjacent spaces so if you opened the door the moisture in the chlorine smell came out at you it's not help polls are supposed to work they are supposed to be negative that if you open the door the condition from the quarters goes into the pole so you're never pushing the middy and pushing the chlorine into the building if you know more sure and chlorine do really nasty things to a lot of metal surfaces and whatnot so what we were recommending there was  packing unit that was put in two thousand should have some years of life left in it if a originally commission and balanced it should be exhausting more air out of its exhaust return side than it's bringing in from the outside in effect the po box of the pole space should run under negative pressure so we're recommending getting a balancing and commissioning agent in probably working in conjunction with the manufacturer's rep in the area to get that unit back up and running with the proper air into and out of it so at the pole space would operate under a negative pressure one that's just which needs to be done because of what the chlorine can do to the building but if we also get that problem addressed that would have a positive effect on what we're trying to do in the middle find the rest of the building because unlike the rest of the building that goes offline and you shut off polls don't ever shut off your heating the pool water you're always evaporating something in you're always demystifying if it's run properly so that's something you would suggest that we we would get on because it could be creating to the mill the problem in the school it's definitely not helping at all and i know when they were there when you sign in and start walking up the corridor you can smell the chlorine and you're still significant distance away from the actual pole which means system is all independent in and of itself in theory if i actually made the building real high positive pressure a lots of fresh air it could maybe matriculate itself into ok if i'm really positive in a corner i can help i am concerned we're hitting the winter season for number five with the with the boiler room adjustments i don't want to wait on that but again it might still take on  can i give a opinion from the boy we can't go tonight but can i get an opinion on whether or not we want to bring this up during the boating meeting at the end of the month these different line items i think he from my object from my perspective the only two that are not no brainers are the kitchen air conditioning in the gym air conditioning so yeah i think you've got at least got to bring the other you know whatever it is eight up  and those you can bring up whether we discuss to do them or just us not to do them but i think you said yeah right that a consensus sandy now so are we saying don't bring up you know well i'm asking if you want these line items brought up during the voting meeting at the end of the month another option may just kind of brainstorm here is once you award the contract to the mechanical contractor for this project you could add these scope items to his agenda his work scope just to be performed at the high school at least get him to give you a proposal for these items if you don't if you're not happy with the proposal and compared to our estimate you could still go out for a bit later but would be like a change order to district office because he's a mechanical contractor you going to have on board here and that's the same type of individual would be doing this at high school especially if you get a good contractor that you that you're familiar with and does good work i mean he'd be one that you'd want you could sign the work to at the high school it's a good idea click on the piece of silly small the end of the school year so the summer what would be wide open for that contract is the extent it works and i think that makes a lot of sense he sing it on the mcmurry elementary where i didn't that piecing it on the da oh makes a lot of logistical sons probably a little late for us to prepare design documents and incorporate them into the bid now but we could do some some designing and after the fact and give it to him and have him price like as well as as of the twentieth of january we could at least give him an indicator right agree with what tom just said ok so we look at that before we bring these up i personally think we should yes if i'm just asking the question but i think we're talking about here's our number now let's talk about i  which was the last one to four items and the only i put classes on the other two that high like one i thought i was having the number one with the concrete walk at the that this isn't the worst parking lot facility it's a need of attention but it's by month no means the worst we looked at it from the perspective of doing all the interior and exterior work and not having you know the exterior parking lot done in conjunction with this but this could this could be delayed there is currently a pleasant valley is that we're looking at resurfacing there and that's that's probably the highest priority it seems and we talked about we doing resurfacing look at the district as a whole is yes i guess one question and maybe something else going to answer is with the decrease in oil prices is that affecting the paving cost for this or yes yeah definitely so there may be some advantage to looking at earlier than later that on the other hand i'm not disagreeing with the timing question on the other hand those first five and increase are picked up on this is you were going through your presentation there are different contractor right there's no reason they have to be associated with the mcmurry project from the mcmurry project standpoint that could be somebody else right and i think that's where tom is leaving that they could be a separate item totally i'm very very concerned about getting whatever we want in the mcmurry project in the mcnairy project now it's absolutely i think those last four need to come out on the twentieth what we do with the other ones is has a lot more flexibility does for we need to use that do they use that during fire drills or not do or would they use it any more during the project and not during the project fire drills right and this topics come up many times over many years at some point we're going to have to dress the issue because it doesn't mean fire hydrants on that site located opposite corners of the building so your hose distance probably covers what it was originally designed the perimeter of the building so getting a host truck around probably isn't necessary but an ambulance or a police vehicle that would need any of us back there as much building and that's what made us go to the right side because we had to do the switch back yeah and begin the fire hydrant was right there located where i don't believe we wanted students exit in the building where the fire trucks were pulling around there so that's why we went to the other side of the building and decided to take it out for that it's away from the building it's a gradual approach that you can drive up to around the back of this project book remove the chiller that's standing back there for the shelf space temporary would be a temporary fence close to the bus garage separating the bus parking from the visitor parking then the the drive entrance into that lot is very narrow it's probably only twelve feet wide that would remain intact as well so we have to somehow restrike that area temporarily to allow one way traffic in and out of the whine waiting too because at that point too you can get parent feedback as to whether that was you know a great place to park whether they're still go park if they can get closer somewhere that they shouldn't be or you know i don't now i mean that's a good point you'll be able to gauge that after you use it for a full year going back to the revisiting keep the fence  one thing i don't like is putting a fence to block access one of the big deficiencies we have with that school is where we have one interest and if you have the opportunity without the buses or you have a second answers you have belt drive which could actually go one way or the other the other way you're cutting your options so in an event you actually have the potential to move the buses out of there use a second entrance to a wide enough is out or something  highlands which i don't know we want to open up that back yeah but at least we could have control of belt drive if we did with it also if we talked about another option for the bus garage you would actually have a lot more flexibility there for parking as well as access another use for the bus  i can look at you suggested the parallel parking along the access drive maybe before your your finance meeting monday maybe i can look at and see if it's viable or not and put a cost to it and then you guys can discuss that also as an additional consideration on monday if it's possible and throw that into the mix yeah i'd like to find out if we own the property for one and then two if it's a viable thing on the one side not the sidewalk side but the left side is you're going in if that can be yes that will not be that will just those last four items if in fact we decide the financial picture allows that to take place then we'll have that at the end of the month to include those into this contract is well as the high school whatever's happening this right the last topic of discussion just real quickly i just wanted to give you an update on where we stood with this district office new air conditioning we had a contractors walk through that ok yeah yeah and then i was just nosy and there's no price on here so that's no yeah no decisions need to be made there you've already made them last monday we had the pre boot conference with all the contractors there was a lot of interest in the project a lot of people showed up i think we'll have a good turn out with bids and be competitive work at the end of march and be complete by the end of may and again the scope of the work is replacing that air handling units which serves the ac in the building we're adding some sound unit to control the sound you know that was an important topic the unit itself is going to have some additional features built into it with some sound control blankets around the compressors and then also a louver baffle on the intake to reduce the noise as well we were concerned about this because to the extent that we measured the spill reading of the existing units up there we came out one day turned the air conditioning on even though the building in need it  and we measured the sound with a decibel meter and and just to make a point of that is there was only one compressor running and not two which is when it's probably really noisy so with one compressor let alone when there's two running when it was in full operation so i think we're going to see a big improvement when that comes to the sound tom you'll be able to watch your t v without being overcome the noise did we have a good turnout for the previous how many approximate how many contractors you took the role i believe were a seven or eight hundred you know i have some follow on with subs this week the other the issue i wanted to address with sound was we were trying to also address some type of screening up there so it wasn't so visibly noticeable ugly  but the problem is once we start to put screen walls around it that unit sits on existing structure that was added when this building was renovated from the original school to the office building its structure goes through the walls of this building to the foundations that can only handle so much load so when we looked at the actual structural design of that structure it's not able to handle any type of screen walls that would stick up there and have lateral when load so again you'll be seeing these bids on your twentieth board meeting for award you'll see a construction bid and then separately you'll see a proposed proposal form from across commissioning agent that's going to test and balance and run all the equipment through its loop so those are the two costs hopefully at that board meeting that you'll feel authorized to proceed at that point so just to give you a heads up which we say well thank you very much you're welcome i'm a newbie i'm going to ask what's probably a stupid question going ask it anyway because i don't know the answer to it i do we get a quality evaluation of the bidders are we bound to take a low bid i think we're bound to take low whenever we used the big state jobs it was always we were told the lowest competent bid ok didn't have to be the low bidder the we knew the people weren't that good then they didn't have to take it  asking i guess i'm asking that question to you folks today that's probably a suited the question better suited for your solicitor of what competent definition is in title two i know the list of contractors and the people that attended we're all familiar with them they're all good contractors which is a good sign we do ask that we request we can request of them within twenty four hours of submitting their bid to submit a qualification statement that we can review you can review your solicitor can review if there's anything that's outstanding then you can make the argument that they're either not competent and if you can't make that argument you always have the option of just rejecting the bits in their entirety and rebuilding it at balancing wrong and you might as well not have the equipment and so i'd like to see some kind of competency evaluation and i know you only have five days to turn that around and two of them are weekend today's soon as they submit their bid and we know it was a little bit or is all asking the yes district landscaping for this season we are where i am working on an r f p for contracted out landscaping services again this year and that will potential contractors when do you expect that to be coming forward to the board that will be at the board meeting on the on the night twentieth and the twenty this month the proposals won't be till the following month a it was a learning curve there's always room for improvement i felt that it was much better than the two previous years that i oversaw that internally there is room for improvement again this year now that i have a more defined scope of work and higher expectations and defined expectations written for content one of the things i've changed is i'm using google earth for more pictorial detail the script descriptions on each location refining the qualifications as we just spoke about here of contractors that are able to bid on this having worked in other school districts this  worthwhile the equipment that we have is still in place we haven't you know the contractor utilizes a own equipment obviously we haven't auctioned off any of the equipment obviously would like to get a year or two or three under a belt before something of that nature happens we still will maintain close proximity to the facilities itself because i that is one of them's the fellas as i would like our staff t maintain it close interval to the building itself and then extract them from further distance away obviously i want to hire a curb appeal i want higher curb appeal immediately around the building off in the islands into the zones we have such a school district is so physically diverse than other school districts there are no really defined boundaries that's what i found out working with the contractor this year there was this is not in the scope of the work this is i have to find that with google earth maps been working on that and they'll have a packet they'll have an electronic packet it will be a better operation just for the board's information last year we approved the bid at about thirty seven thousand dollars we ended up spending only thirty and some of that was because of the lateness of approving a bit in the season but that's just an idea for the board one caveat to that is if you recall we never had a burn out period in the summer months lawns were needed to be cut every week and so we are depth into that resolution that's how i'm kevvy a follow up i am as mr france said working diligently with the replacement of the pleasant valley universe and project working as project manager there and doing everything the architect does with all the documentation and the bids the contractors the drawings the scope of work so that's taken quite a bit of time but we did have seven very qualified contractors that also came to my pre b mandatory walk through many of those were here at the dia following so i'm confident that we're going to have success there replacing those remaining fifteen units and putting that project behind us when next question is manpower how we doing with an assistant we have follow up second round interviews on wednesday and excited to get there and move  any other questions for the board members for mr gold no other questions ok will open up the public comment yep thank you all for addressing this my i just had a couple comments regarding the mcmurry construction i was looking at the parking lot and i'm very pleased to see some spaces that because i've seen that might mare over there  just wanted to make a comment where those construction trailers are going along the back of the parking lot employees parked there that work from like nine in the morning till two in the afternoon typically right now sometimes they have to fight for those parking spaces in the back so those employees will have difficulty finding parking and that back door into the building there i just wanted to make sure i'm sure you guys thought of this and i don't wan suggest that nobody did but there are deliveries that come to that backdoor big mack trucks there's six of them every week and i wanted to make sure they had access to go through the parking lot at those trailers are like sticking out there and the deliveries will be able to get through there for food products so i just wanted to make that now i appreciate well you guys are doing with this project i know it's such a large undertaking and i'm very excited about this happening i just wanted to make sure that was taken into account and you do have your back to the camera so you need to say who you are oh i'm sorry betty cradle one hundred three club view drive like mari earlier i had an administrator up at high school and two teachers tell me what an excellent job he's doing overseeing the safety issues going on at the high school as well as the day to day activities up there for as far as i t is concerned i keep i keep hearing his name every time and it's really nice to hear that our employees are being lauded by our employees you know we have to do two sets of customers the internal and the external we sometimes pay attention to the external customers and the internal customers get pushed aside apparently he's not doing that he's involving everybody and staying on top and personally overseeing a lot of these activities which i think is just excellent so i just wanted to bring that up and let him now and if his team looks tired i they also did the pirates whole rollover and that i think and that is the way i am in the morning and his team has been doing a lot of extra duty and they're doing a great job to thank you for acknowledging him and the other questions and comments