all right this is the time in the place for the meeting of the board of appeals for the city of holland we are here to consider applications for variances and or special exceptions this board must try to interpret each application as it relates to the ordinance th board is not empowered to rezone nor take any action that beacon could be considered rezoning applications need to meet a number of crucial tests in order to be granted those of you who are here and of already answered those questions on your application we're going to go through them again tonight there is a procedure guide available we ask that you come to the microphone to speak and that you state your name and address when you do so we typically hear the applicant first and anyone supporting the application then anyone in opposition to it will then close the public hearing deliberate and render decision you're welcome to stay for the deliberations but there no opportunity for further public comment if you elect not to stay for the deliberations you may call city hall after eight thirty tomorrow morning to learn what we did share what we got tonight peace seventeen point twenty z four or seven forty two central avenue area kinky kearney are requesting a variance to construct a covered porch at their home at seven forty two central the porch would be a setback of twenty four feet were twenty five point five is required to have someone here to speak to this the front of the house once we got done with the kitchen remodel you know everything else so you know that so we're not of the point where we're trying to put it like an open gable entrance over top of the porch it's a ten foot wide by six foot we're just going for something instead of pleasing and that fits in with the character of the neighborhood ok so help us understand what's unique about the property that would drive this  need the house is set on a corner lot in the front is facing central and it's close enough to the road such that you know you can't get a decent amount of coverage so i'm trying to get six feet away from the house just to look at make it look make it look nice is the need self created for this and what's know and so if you were to move the pillars back a foot and a half from the the edge of the porch facing the road you would be here project correct me if i'm wrong here persia up to three feet beyond the pillars is it is it the column basis or the you know i mean if it's just going to have bass and then it comes together and it goes to a six inch bass in the center or six inch column where you measure from the part of the structure closest to the street so the base ok as you drive home when you're figuring out the inches that you're going to work within yeah i figured i'd cut the j so you don't ask that question of yours  make sure that i'm understand this correctly it's either the standard twenty six feet or the structure that's closest to the road on my block is that correct i believe you know the front yards out back is thirty feet or the last or setback created by other structures on your street ok and it looks like the closest structure is twenty five point five feet setback so after i spoke with then my form of that was incorrect and i walked down to seven twenty four central not so than forty two central which is mine yes eleven sorry seven twenty four central does not count because that's a side yard on a side street and not the front yard so we can't use that house ok the front door in the front yard is determined based on the shortest distance on the street also you have a regular lot and sold even though the whole house faces the side yard the proximity standpoint the front yards on the other street right changes man are standing and then the next closest which is seven thirty central is twenty six and a half foot back to the porch we were looking for twenty four  right and when dan and i were out we looked at all of the houses on your same side of the street there in we measured the closest one at twenty five and a half ok so you can so your porch can come out to twenty five and a half and you do not need a variance ok the all right anything else you want to say about this ok i think that's better than where we were to start with so appreciate your time  the reason we've heard strict adherence to the requirements does not seem unreasonably burdensome for the property owner to have what we need and we do ok seventeen point twenty nine twenty three east eighth street stephen bearers is requesting a permission to operate a short term rental property at his residence at twenty three east eighth street do we have anyone here to speak to the separation got the public hearing open a discussion from the board on this can we make a decision tonight i think we probably got enough information to make a decision unless we we want to push it off for another month to see if we go there do you think it's possible that he could have misunderstood and thought we had a six o'clock meeting i was thinking the same but  in the past you've done it both ways sometimes when the applicant doesn't show up you table it to the next meeting postpone it turn next meeting there have been a few occasions where you've made decisions where you don't think that the any input is needed beyond what's in the application material and so you can do that either way i'd like to see us table it just because we may have additional information another month right could change potentially for the need for the  i'm willing to entertain a motion one way or the other public hearing still open so if if you want to table it it's easier to table it with the public hearing open that way we don't need to reel in the public hearing next time around i'd like to make most of the table ok all right we got a motion by the support by vendor and all in favor say table that table table ok moving on i don't see anything else on our agenda other than meeting  this when some time out in october after a six ok october twenty six motion to adjourn i make a motion to adjourn the meeting support all right motion by the endurance support by bedard all in favor say bye bye bye bye