has repeatedly said with the language of the statue and i have your alliance as i understand it on seventy five thirteen b one is right there well i've got the text of seventy one thirteen b me and it starts off by so the title of it is cause and procedure as i read this  states the basis upon which the government can take adverse action against employees and it has to be such clauses will promote the efficiency of the service and then sub paragraph b seems to set out the procedures what the it's what the employers entitle to in the start says the first thing the employees to get is to get thirty days advance written notice  is if there is reasonable cause to believe that an absolute already has committed a crime for which in president may be the punishment you don't have to give  days notice you can put them in the make it effective immediately and it seems to me as to as i read this the only reason the government has to get into the question of whether can present maybe the punishment is that the government is planning to give a less than thirty days now hey you got thirty one days so i don't see how  you how you could read out of that some in requirement that if the government wants to give an indefinite suspension it has to make a determination of reasonable cause to believe it was a  is that there is an ongoing investigation and there is a resistance by the government in these cases to put forward and they added and because of my car the criminal and that this is an extraordinary circumstance because i have a report there were a couple of cases here with more rewrite the statue i mean that's not what we're supposed to do you've got to have some language in the statute which is why i definite oh well it's all the to me my that there's no there's no specific date presume i take it that the suspension is as long as the investigation is going on and i have to the results of your  or if the investigation is sooner terminated and he is vindicated to lack point now that would not be an indefinite suspension would i think i think it question than the question whether the government is required to make a reasonable to turn a reasonable cause reasonable cause determination as a condition to imposing an indefinite not really answering my question which i think is the same is judged newmans and that is you know what let's suppose somebody suspended in a kodaly arbitrary way there's a there's an investigation completely without foundation and if in fact it's personally motivated by the guy's supervisor there's absolutely no basis for are you saying that you can still be suspended indefinitely under those circumstances no your honor because  that is challenging the suspension of the who was before suspending him they didn't make a reasonable cause determination even though they gave me thirty days and your position as they only have to make allegation let's suppose there's a allegation of sexual harassment and but it's a baseless allegation of sexual harassment in the but there's an investigation is there any authority as to whether you can indefinitely suspend somebody under those circumstances action and action that's not supported by reasonable cause different because there are instances in which to not be appropriate to provide all the information to the individual and be basically paid on the seriousness of the offense maybe have a generous reasonable cause standard in the present context because of the seriousness but does that really support the idea that there shouldn't be any limitation on the ability to suspend people and if they could they could eliminate the thirty days notice in connection with the roll move all they could remove still months immediately if they made the reasonable cause determination yes your honor so it's a  adverse action specified in seventy five twelve they could include a reduction in pay they decided they were going to reduce his pay substantially they'd have to give him thirty days notice except if they found seven five twelve has five different specific actions covered and i take it that seventy five were keen so it's out the basis and the procedures to be followed in behavior and they indefinite suspension individual pending investigation into that behavior where they thought this individual might be a threat to the workplace because of his behavior but if there is no allegation of the crime it was a face in which the federal