fifth second and all those in favor it looks like four zero for the first case would be calling this is first the zoning portion and sakit will do the planning portion of it so first will he will do the stoning portion of this case and vote on the zoning portion agent seeking a special permit under section three point three of the zoning bylaw building greater than five thousand square feet and in order to construct a one story seventy seven thousand four foot square foot commercial building in a local beer business three zoning district agent silent thank you my name is gary simon and we are proposing to build a seven thousand and four square for basically one storey retail building with four want us to go through with you know any more detail you can ask us but what i think we'll just take a shot at a brief overview and see if we can move this thing along a brief overview would be great ok great  s property itself which and by the way i own all three properties the c v s property itself is going to contribute some land basically to make the arithmetic  property to get us to twenty thousand and fourteen feet which would make the arithmetic work in terms of the in the sorry we can you  yes sorry about that that way the arithmetic will work so the the live coverage ratio will get you to the thirty five percent and the hour of course will be considerably less because it's a one story building so let's just see right the arithmetic we need twenty one parking spaces and  will utilize for on street parking spaces under section five point one point one c so we'll have four spaces on the on the on the street will have nine nine on the actual lot itself back here and then we're going to share another i think it's sixteen spaces which will get us up to the twenty nin and what we would propose upon approval is that we would come up with a final easement agreement to record the only other thing that  is is a little bit tricky is the dumpsters currently we're showing the property line is straight across depending on the dumpster placement to be accepted we would we would make the property line basically follow the dumpsters so that each dumpster would be in the respect the property that it serves so again that would be something we could hopefully we could do that post approval  that would again make the arithmetic work but but leave the dumpsters in there in their respective properties so at this point i would want to turn turn over to the architect w talk about some of the elevations unless i mean this is the zoning portion are you even interested in the architectural so at this point you are ok about the markings what it means to have a excess parking on this site we have an overabundance of parking on that site so we were going to take advantage of that fact in and in effect road sorry we will have nine on the property that we're creating with the new building and then on this side of the site there's about sixteen existing spaces that are going to be designated for wh street is right here and then these are preexisting surplus on the c b s parking lot they're not really being shared that what happened is you've got too many parking spaces for to get more than you me and spring to this case but it's not like there's double counting going and we're not going to double count but but the intention is to allow with the with the reciprocal ease when agreement it will allow both customers of both parcels in effect to to park wherever they want and that by the way is acceptable to the tenets the existing tenants so that's that's something that i've been working out with existing tenants and myself because i'm the owner of the property so so you'll be effectively both parties in this reciprocal easement agreement yes but it's going to go it's going to go to record it's going to get recorded and it will be you know if the properties happen to split up the easement will go you know will stay will remain in effect in eye i think the concept is the town wants to make sure they are protected that if if if the properties do split up that suddenly you know one or the other is all of a sudden you know doesn't have enough how many do you think you to use oh it'll you know it'll really be a function of the of the use and i would imagine the time of day you know depending on what goes there at this point i haven't done any marketing whatsoever and you know i mean the e u never really know what you know what uses are going to put what kind of demands on it but  i mean the the the concept for me is that it's this is a great space because of because of the parking the parking really is the huge feature of of the space courts again my name is barry from blackstone block architects and i'll start with the site plan just be very brief and then we'll go into questions but this is the existing c v s this is this is they feet wide and sixty four feet deep and that comes up to the seven thousand four square feet as gary had mentioned we are going to have its own designated parking area in the back and then the sixteen area this is this gray area is the we're not doing any modifications to the existing parking lot that that is staying as is this is this is a blow up plan of that pink area or that red area that i had shown on the site plan again it's one hundred eight feet sixty four feet deep we are showing four bays but in the project  gary depending on how he markets the building we are not going to have any more the buildings i can have any more than four tenants it could be a combination of zero to four zero and depending on the tenant the tenant one tenant may you know lease the whole seven thousand square feet area because across the street is the fire department station and headquarters and just down the way is also a bank so the fabric of the new building is going to mimic some of the existing materials in the neighborhood so obviously the headquarters uses brick they have some stone treatment the glass the glazed overhead doors is going to simulate you know simulates the aluminum storefront that we're going to propose for the retail the the frame is going to there's going to be no basement it's going to be just a concrete slab on grade a steel frame and a flat roof and flat roof is going to have because of site and acoustics we're going to have a three and a half foot parapet above the roof plain so the rooftop units that provide both the heating in the cooling will not be visible and  you have a copy of this in your you know the booklet and this is a section through the building showing the open web steel bar joists concrete slab her pit wall and the scale we have to introduce some  people for the scale so when you said that there could be anywhere from one to four tenants is it would you build to suit potentially have those walls going to be separating units regardless or would you potentially build to suit a large single  open space for a single time and yeah the walls are the interior walls here are basically for demonstration purposes depending on you know if a tenant wanted to bays we would simply not build that wall what in other words if if if if somebody wanted to baze we'd still have the two storefronts and back but the but we just wouldn't put the wall in and you know the tenant would be up to them whether they you know allow customer traffic through one or both the doors you know on either end could be up to them building is over sixty four feet are joyce this way columns but this wall doesn't represent a masonry wall or a load bearing wall it just graphically and we're just showing you that it could be made out of just still stunning dry wall anyone here to speak for this project it went to speak against this project first i don't have any questions based on the presentation and on the materials we were g  what's supposed to be the flat pad for the and transcend that unit and so i logically it's the back because that's where all the parking spaces are but at the same time you're the street front is obviously in the other side so as far as handicapped parking spaces go i would be interested in maybe seeing one on the street that's a  images that the front entrance is in front of the building and making the handicapped go around to the back side if the tenant elects not to have that be an entrance that seems to create a barrier and then the second question is if you move the ramp in the back how does that affect the access to the dumpster as it's been i wonder about the i think there's like twenty five feet from the dumpster to the what would be the beginning of that ramp or maybe even less than that you go forty two away to the building i'm just wondering if there's enough room for a truck to get in there maneuver into the three point turn to pick it up and get out of there yes we've got we've gone through that and y good they're good that's it the planning board has said a as a general standard for commercial properties st trees at twenty to twenty five feet apart and so we would like to  see three additional trees added and the good news is that they are completely in between each entry so they'd they don't need to a fear interfere at all but we would suggest in addition to the two shown on this plan that you add one at each and one in the middle for a total of five and you still have an unobstructed access to the front entries with the type that designated the be the the type that we would prefer that the plan shows a six to seven inch caliper red maple which is a reliable tree and which would be up above very quickly up above the height of everybody coming into and out of the store timeline design wise we selected the location because there already is a rhythm in front of the c b s building so we try to keep that same rhythm as you know for these trees and from the new building by putting them as suggested obviously this is going to become more dense than than the preexisting condition and c v s but i'm just telling you why we did what we did and so the spacing kind of the two trees on this site plan are significantly further apart than the c v s trees that's why we're suggesting three more ok and i'm not arguing the point i'm just telling you how we came up with what we land i think both the choice of planting material and the other spacing works on the questions i have i just want to go over to go over the reciprocal bases so there's like additional fifty spaces now in the easement does the easement because it's a package someplace like it designates reciprocal parking but it doesn't designate portions building and vice versa and you'll also have depending on who you tenants are you're going to have different uses of the lot like if you had a restaurant there you could have uses you have the c v s which tends to go off and a you have the the medical office there first day you would probably have a right you're going to have more people so they'll be over there so that will be fine in terms of that in the easement will be recorded at the registry of deeds it'll run in perpetuity with the two properties of the two properties if the ownership of the two properties is separated any time these may continue it looks like it looks like in the renderings that's like two feet or so sorry i was writing down comments that you're making yes if you take a look at the renderings it doesn't look like the two buildings touch what's the what's to this point to see bodies here and then once we get your comments we're obviously going to revise the the design and then go into contract documents so i haven't we really haven't determined how to do that yet and i can't right now were showing about a foot space i could tell from the photo like my other question my other questions have to do with the access from the parking i mean i did have a question like steve had about access for trucks and things although you could have relatively small trucks for the tears that that you have here in the back my question is two things placement of the dumpsters which i think is important for this building and what are you going to do with the dumpster for the c v s building and then if you're in the reciprocal parking let's say you're in the back part i would assume if you want to go in here you're probably past park two is the back of the c v s space up a bit and then you come across are there so just tell us are there sidewalks how do you walk from the back parking space a cross between the two properties into the entrance in the back of this building how is that going to work ok there was a few points i'll try to address all those points let's just talk about the dumpster let's not look at the new new project where's the existing dumpster for c v s the dumpster right now is in this area here which is the new parking area where we're moving that and turning it basically ninety degrees so it's in its general location as it is right now there is an existing pad monitor and former that we're retaining and there's also a gas meter a turning the dumpster on ninety degrees we are creating an island here that we thought since this is a much smaller that this building could we could create a green space that we could also how's that the dumpster for the new building so this green area where tan designation this is this is the c v s dumpster along with their storage container and this smaller area is the dumpster for the new building this is going on l one yes correct that's correct one and so you'll be walking so if you're let's just say i know this will be reciprocal parky it will be not even though you've said that those are the spaces the people be able to park anyplace but let's say they're coming from that area and they're coming across so they will be coming in a green area by the dumpster here you know there's there's an existing sidewalk behind c v s you know that's correct there is a sidewalk because this we have to have space here because the c v s i think that the fire the spring the electrical and sprinkler room is here so we're going to extend that existing sidewalk and we're going to create our own sidewalk on the back side of the building so this gray area has a satellite sidewalk the sidewalk continues along a c v s to the back of the existing building and then on a north elevation over by the new it there and i wanted to go into the building when i walk in back of the cars there and yeah if you're if you're now there's no internal sidewalks within the parking so no matter where you are you would have to walk you know you park your car then walk to either to the c v s building or to the back side of the really much the same way when you go to this c v s now you get it walks right if you're if you're over he should should we make our decision first need i think we wanted i think in terms of conditions of things i think we mentioned a few things in terms of planning is there a couple of other issues we want that to be yes yes to each and one of the many in of the same type that are designated on the landscape plan right in that was it that i had after i think that covers everything are not that in our say plan review is for the building itself per se ok i don't know if we're going to be at that point previous ranting i think from the board's point of view we're looking at this here i think you may want to speak to that to  there was approvals for the c v s as i understand this correctly there were and have been continuous issues about the maintenance of the boundary line back on that property i think know i don't know i don't know i don't know and think you can i don't think we can do anything about that now on the on the other hand the owner is here and if you want to mention that they originally planned to six trees behind our property c b s lot yeah i'm i'm over here again the still existing dead ones there now it's like pulling teeth to get anybody to enforce it this gentleman was the owner right now but i've spoken to him already there's no the original planning board decision back when it was belt was to have an irrigation system there is no we are a geisha and system which is probably one of the reasons why the trees are failing so i'm just wanting trees so i don't have to look at that trees around the whole parking lot you mind sitting down talking to this gentleman about the trees ok you have a plan for dealing with the issue which is to his benefit because then he's got less maintenance for his grass and landscaping there and that irrigation system will benefit the trees that are on the line for your property and that the owner recognizes as they do that you have an obligation to maintain the trees in that area that was part of the design inside plan review and community development appreciate that yeah no i understand that and frankly that's what we'd like to do but you know with all this construction that we're doing for the new building we'd like to do that as part of this this truck that we're going to do thank you very much we appreciate that and community development will follow through with you on that and we hope sewer that at the irrigation system will help the trees there put new trees in there and it will shield you from we hope they will we hope they will as an arborist looked at it to make sure it's irrigations the problem and not i think they're going to i think they're going to address this from the planning board's point of view it's outside our purview to do i hear a motion you want to see if there's any more public comment we're not in a public hearing but if there's any more public comment listen to anybody who has a public comment on the design and site plan anybody would like to say anything but we vot we approve the site plan as proposed and as with the amendments since that we have made the conditions here  thousand square feet cooperating the the jeffrey do i incorporate the design and site plan review approved or section seven point three point two of the zoning bylaws building greater than twenty five hundred square feet approved by the planning board this evening subject to conditions subject to conditions  with a note that you would with a with a footnote which i shall write that you will look into mr stephen carter administrator than twenty five hundred square feet in order to construct a four thousand nine hundred seventy four square foot two and one half story addition in the general residence zoning district even members of the planning board members of the zoning board thank you for giving this evening and taking the time to hear our submission request and also like to thank our your gershon for all of his help over the past few months he has been a home the proposed the addition well off for important renovations within the facility including an improved better i'm layout and improve larger facility which in our estimation won't result in substantial benefits t residents man or to the town about want generally and also to the neighborhood furthermore we believe these proposed renovation to remain at the forefront of state of the art high quality nursing care facilities in the country also requesting a because the propose addition is in excess of twenty five hundred square feet we are also requesting design is a plan approval from the planning board in accordance with section seven point three two a of the belmont bylaws here with me today are members of our back in one hundred sixty seven we were one of the first facilities that would build as a nursing home as a brand new building and not a renovation to an older building subsequently back then most of the bedrooms had either three or four residents in them with a few doubles and i came hundred seven i saw that the handwriting was on the wall the people in the town of belmont and coming to nursing homes wanted more privacy more space we were taking people that was sicker and more equipment and side and barking on some major renovations over the years as was alluded to in the previous edition that we have done so we have eliminated all of the board bedrooms in the building and we eliminated all of the three bedrooms except the six of them which we have left so medicare and that is still pending right now so when i heard that i kind of went to work and think what can i do with these six rooms that would that have still currently eighteen residents that have three beds in them so i work with the design team and the architect to find out what floors modest in size compared to the building so the first thing i did is i reached out to the new these two neighbors here to talk about the impact that that would have because they were directly affected by the addition of finger landscape architect we did some renderings to what the conditions are today and what they would look like after the addition with some substantial planting so this is eight forty two which is of course is another top you see what they what their view is now from their their property base we can see through the trees you can see the building the second is superimposing the addition which is from here over in the stairway and then with the new planting new fence a new all you could see that it would be completely shield and up total privacy the same thing on the next property which is forty eight and i spoke with the people who live here well the name  dion and again their property with the addition as well as with the new plantings of some very mature arborvitae trees and so in also in dealing with and talking with the neighbors we talked about what the material of the building would be and the current building right now is brick in the back and we thought that we would continue with the brick to have a uniformity and then this is a step back it's a stair tower we would do the siding there and in talking about so this is the back of the building the addition with the stairs this is looking from this direction to make it feel more residential having the the siding as well as looking from the from the driveway coming in and these elements are elements that we've added throughout the years when we've done other construction such as this area here this lobby and this area here siding to make it look small in nature after i met with the two about as i had an open house which i sent out sixty nine invitations i had to two people come to explain what was what i was planning on doing that opposed and didn't seem to have any issues that event walked through the neighborhood on many occasions and i received about thirty to thirty five signatures on a petition that's included in your packet of people that were did not have any issues with the with the addition edition also completely this is the west side of the building on the second floor these are most debilitated residents on the third floor dementor unit the resident need most help these residents don't really leave the floor very often so we really want to create more of a social area they eat they have activities they visit with their families so we're trying to create an additional social area for the residents there and i can proudly say that belmont manor has been just deficiency free from the department public health which is to the state that's the past six years and where i would be one of the best facilities and on the state as well in the country as well so this has been my goal and my plan and my passion for the last thirty nine years to make this the best nursing facility possible  and we're looking for this so we can better oppositely and continue with the legacy that i've had for the past fifty years in belmont manor and i thank you for your time  be bed count is going to go right we're going to happen we have fifteen single rooms right now would go to twenty one we have fifty one double room to go to fifty nine we have six rooms will go to zero edition here so when actually in size it's almost the exact same size actually rooms into single rooms this is in a stairway this is two double rooms and two single rooms that was never cut that was i don't have i have a two thousand and two thousand and eleven i was aware of the two thousand and well over thirty you agreed a variance for that as well that's correct that was two thousand and eleven yes we started extraction late two thousand and eleven and finished in two thousand and thirteen two thousand and completed in early thirteen so there's no more room you can build i don't think so but i hear i mean and i squeak this one out looking at at where they have the best place was and also how to work it's going off and has also work within the building  with the way the cars are and there's a lot of codes and a part of public health that we have to adhere to as well who was in the room right now ok so i think we'll probably maybe hear from that one could you characterize any concerns of the the other person that attended at that time at that time no neighbors show th thought that it was a benefit to what he has now the people that live next door forty eight live in belmont hill they rent the property and there's an e mail from them in the packet with showing support i tried to reach out to the people that i thought would be directly affected first before going to the neighborhood but if there's any lessons learned to be had from the landscaper that did the work for c b s so that you don't run into similar issues but he's dying because it looks nice coverage that you just good evening everyone when i was george chorus and my family owns a property directly about forty forty two i guess you have and i think we've been good neighbors for over forty years and stewart and his team have kept us very informed throughout the process and we're very comfortable he's addressed all of our concerns and we're comfortable moving forward they were else at this point something else out in the the this is that rendering here we're also going to be doing a landscaping on this side as well and hand the side property for you you've sought variances every time you've been here before yes you know as any business owner wants to you need to keep yourself in conformance with those to make elections into every time he's had to come he's every time he's had to make any changes to the building he said to come here in in opposition to this project ok so i will now told the zoning boards part of this process and turn it over to the planning board thank you very much thank you very much for the presentation very thoughtful well done let me begin with carl do you have any questions or comments on the presentation there don't i think it's a good presentation and do i hear a motion to approve the design said pl can it's not it's it it's not it's yes not technically not necessary but it's put in the notice to put people on notice that this isn't a new issue that is an issue that has been modified in the past i just wanted to make sure we can certainly you can certainly make reference to that as an in two thousand and eight in two thousand and seven if you want to know do you also want to incorporate the  i'll second that tonight thank you thank you you thank