recreational soccer coach today's topic is how coaches motivate a student athletes perspective we're going to do things a little differently this session we're going to begin with two student athletes and ask them some questions then we're going to take a break and bring on two additional student athletes to begin with we have marcus shubin or and ironic alaska welcome to the show thank you thank you for having us you're welcome let's start by having each of you believe briefly introduce yourself and describe your background  i'm veronica and i played vs soccer for the peers out of high school for four years but i couldn't play my senior year because i term a c l this fall i'm going to play at the university of virginia for the football team played for three years i'm also a member of the track team and i will be attending grove city college in the fall all right thank you one of the things that i've learned in my life is that there are good motivators and there are bad motivators a coach that is a good motivator can pick an athlete and make them a great athlete unfortunately though if a coach is a bad motivator they can actually have a student athlete leave the sport and i've actually seen that happen so thinking about that and thinking about all the coaches that you've had think about how they motivated you what they did to help you excel what did they do to help you improve personally to help me help motivate me it takes someone to push me so pushing me to the point where that where i break but close to that point so they i can reach my full potential and constructive criticism helps a lot even if i i don't mind getting screamed at but just so long as it's like something is going to help me can you give me an example if i'm on the field and i'm not in the right position to get the best kind of threw a ball that's going to coach  constructive criticism is that we watch films every saturday after football if the coach isn't talking about you then you didn't have a good game because you want to be able to fix what you've done in the past you want to be able to become the best they're not there to say  you're going to be the best they want you to be better than what you were the last day so they're eight so you touched on this a little bit when how the coaches go about identifying what you're doing right and what you're doing wrong is it mostly just through communication or did you have coaches actually able to demonstrate were supposed to do right or wrong definitely during practices i had a lot of coaches being able to demonstrate what i'm doing or what i'm supposed to be doing which is a lot more helpful because sometimes in soccer just the terminology can get confusing and the types of rounds they want to make so if you have a coach that's played the sport it helps a lot like my one club cool club coach played for notre dame ok so she went on to the national team and then came back and started coaching us which is really helpful because she had a lot of insight on the sport going for me my running back oh she was a little bit older so he couldn't really give us more hands on he had to more explain it so we had to listen  carefully to understand what he was china tell us and do but every single play he would go through and explain where he wanted us how many yards deep how far you want us how fast you want to go and so it was definitely more of a listening type experience you think that made it more difficult than actually having someone on the field showing you it would make it a little bit more difficult because you want to make sure you're seeing what they're seeing so you kind of have to look in their eyes and try to figure out what they want to happen so it was a little bit more difficult  more hands on experience how would you describe your coach's communication style very frank most of the coaches that i've had have been very frank and honest with me even if it's just the hard truth like you completely messed that play  or you need to redo this try this is a completely different way to no sugarcoating yeah how do you like that i like it if you're not straightforward then it gets confusing with the player and honestly being they tell you what's going on and it really helps you become better did you find that any of your coaches had a different communication style based on who they were talking to yes some of some of the players if they were a little more sensitive and took it personally the criticism they would our coach would like pull back a bit and use less force when explaining something they're less criticism i'm not completely sugar coating it but just softening their tone their gesture in full farkas usually was con all the same for all of us because it's like the whole team usually the one player makes a state the whole team goes down so they always talk about the whole team academics i'm guessing you're in other clubs perhaps you might have this other thing called a job and you go to work how do you motivate yourself both in all those other things you do and your athletics it's difficult but i mean personally coming back from like an a c l tear ever since then it's just motivate me to get better just improve and it's kind of enlightening you get to see that you can always make yourself better because there's always someone out there that's better than you  there's times where i've just not do my homework or just not want to go to practice and then i think to myself you know how that can affect me the long run i don't want to give up on something i want to keep selling and keep moving forward and keep trying my best at everything so really it's  been tough it's also it's been a great experience to keep moving forward and keep getting better so you look forward toward that personal accomplishment very good good so if you could sit down with some of your former coaches have an open one on one conversation with them and give them something back like they gave you feedback for all these years what would you tell probably not a single one person out if the entire group of people are doing something wrong so if certain coaches have had to have directed their frustration or anger towards one person and like if that person were to do something incorrectly they singled that one person out even if multiple people are doing something that's wrong now i have to say probably to explain stuff better really get on the field and actually show us what to do and i mean one coach i think i've always had a great coaches and a lot of my coaches have been family friends or coaches who i've known for a long time so i have to say if anything probably more of a hands on experience and last question how did your coaches demonstrated that they cared about you as an individual in your academics in your life as opposed to winning the game and winning the championship i mean the amount of hours they spend with us first off as a team and secondly just individually like they'll take time out to have individual meetings with you or just talk to you on the phone when you have questions or comments on call especially during the college when we figure out what college you go to you might have hours that our coaches had spent on like emailing other college coaches calling other college coaches to try to get them to recruit you it's unbelievable and i will be forever grateful when exactly the same for the college f me and also you know whenever we want during an injury our coach was on like always calling us always making sure it was up and he would be checking up on us with school i still go down see some of my coaches now they say how the grades go and how it's like after school activities know like everything with college you need any help they're always there for you they're all they're like a second family for you you can always have them and you can always trust them it's wonderful what sounds like you to have had a great experience with all of your 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better or just keep doing what i'm doing and that really helped  coaches they've always said what they need the say it's never been covered it's never been if they need to say something if they need to tell me something they just said it and if i didn't do it they'd say it again thing a coach has ever said to you me and i played goalkeeper at the time and i had made a bet with i guess the deal would be better with my coach that if we scored a certain amount of goals and had enough of lead i could come out and play in the field  my coach that i made the deal with wasn't there that game and we ended up going up eight nine nothing and like coach told me i don't care the deal you made with that coach what i'm saying is you're staying in goal and i didn't right so would you call that a personality conflict or a the disagreement with the coach i think just disagreement in general all right i don't think it's necessarily about what they say i think it's how they say it if they're screaming in your face coach he quoted a line from the movie coach carter which oh it's a great movie but we we were doing foul shots and i can say i'm the worst fallshaw cheater i've ever seen  and it just he told us just one time you've got to make these for the team everything is for the team and when you put into the team aspect of it it really motivates you to do better because you have more than just yourself in a coach or lying on you  game and it comes out and they're screaming like let's do this everything like that then it's definitely different than when they're yelling at you or ok so again i'm assuming you two are very busy student athletes you have multiple sports and practices and games and studies and homework clubs and jobs and things so how do you motivate yourselves through all of this i just think that there's just this feeling of being a student athlete and it's just really gratifying to keep up with all these a p classes and then also being able to practice and perform after school and represent your school and yourself and i just think that that gratification is really what motivates i want to go just because i love the game that much i want to keep going on with what i got but it gets tough at times balancing everything but it's the between the love of the game just wanting to keep going and kind of the  i would say just whenever your team makes it to a playoff game it's just a very different very different environment when you are at the pre playoff practices and everything it's just  it's just we've made it this far and we're just going to go as far as much can and so i just think the like the coaches demeanor totally changes from like in the season and postseason play and i think that's really memorable because you're just giving it your all and your coach just one you to perform is that you can join our high school soccer coach one of my favorite coaches i've ever had and i think what he understands best is it's not just soccer that makes him the best one of the best coaches but he's able to relate to us on different things like he's gone back and told us stories when he was in high school and when it was the greatest time of life playing in high school for playing soccer for the high school team and representing the school friends just getting a reputation of i'm a student athlete and he explained this one time when we leave high school was not going to be the championships we won or the the gains that we beat our rival or if we started or not or if we lettered it will be how high school soccer changed us and how we will be able to make everyone else better whether it's soccer just our coach to be the better man always going out and really just improving us for individuals that are just soccer players that's wonderful that's wonderful all right last question if you could sit down with any of your former coaches and have a frank one on one conversation with them what kind of feedback would you give them like the feedback they gave to you i kind of like the idea a lot of my coaches do the kind of team contract at the beginning laying out what they expect of you and then we can tell them what we expect of them and then you can sign it date it whatever and they have just have this record of this is what i expected of you and you told me you would do it sell i just really like that idea of that contract at the beginning of the season ok and i never had one of those teams contact  s i couldn't go that i would say i would first say because i wouldn't be who i am or be able to do anything that i still do if they had first encouraged me from the start to go out and keep playing that  would probably get the same thank you aren't very good world sense sounds again like we had some wonderful coaching experiences and that's good to hear and hopefully for the coaches watching and for the parents watching you feel comfortable that we have this kind of experience for all of our student athletes and the peters township school district that's great news to hear it so that concludes our program and i want to thank all of our guests for being here and being so open and honest and i wish you all the best in your endeavors moving