council's comedian budget and finance show come to order this is our regular meeting of the pro twenty seventh two thousand and fifteen we are in the what we call the budget cycle if thirty seconds to conclude and read means to please stop your comments also we shall take care of all our and noise making devices either in silent or off mode please with that me anyone wishing to provide testimony i just want to share a few thoughts with us all of you in our community so let me start by seeing first nothing is free not fixing the road so replacing the water lines not putting out fires or performing ocean rescues not providing police officers to keep us safe nothing is free county parks or swimming pool is a civil defense irene's but the trucks to pick up your trash are the staff to persecute crimes not conducting the elections were running busses we is sufficient to stamp a croaky frogs or quite the night sky or shout that those in need as your chairman of the budget and finance committee i would tell you that i take these this basic principle to heart nothing is free to the contrary it all comes at a cost to our county residents and taxpayers the cost of providing county core services has risen we would not jeopardize our resident safety by saying first responders services should therefore be reduced when landfill hours or trash pickup services are cut back despite adequate funding residents get impacted more water flowing to our taps more contributions to the nonprofits less wait time when we go to renew our a driver's licenses but nothing is free and government must learn to live within its means members of the budget and finance committee traveled to your districts to our districts members of the bill paying public with a mike in hand over the course of eight evenings this pass review months went to competing considerations for our tax perry dollars are great there are many many worthy causes that even you spoke about but we also heard that you cannot afford and this is from our community increases being proposed by the mayor on a six hundred ninety nine point nine if you want to round it off seven hundred million dollar budget sixteen percent higher than the fiscal year two thousand and fifteen budget with one hundred  twenty three million in bahrain so we asked how many in our community kind of can say they can afford sixteen percent more this year then they could last year that for every dollar  base had last year they have sixteen cents more to spend this year the mare's proposed spending would cause double digit percentage increases in real property taxes for the most significant increases in property valuations over the last fiscal year no change to real property tax rate means for this year higher tax bills residents i believe can you afford  the question comes why would the mayor forced a seven hundred million dollars burden on the people who are elected to serve this community will better learn its lessons from our residence or residence spend within their means rather than create a wish lists then extract payment for that wish list from their neighbors this administration would have you believe this wish list is something our residen can afford i do not believe that i don't believe our residents do either this committee's responsibility is to recommend to the council a budget that takes into account very real limitations on resources or we need to pay required services and provide for a growing community and our need to help and not hinder our ohana this morning i am happy to share my continuing walk down fiscal discipline and ruse the proposal i'm distributed to you this morning decreases bahrain by ninety six million dollars and we do says operating costs by twenty two million dollars my proposal would be first capital improvement projects with insufficient design or site control to move forward and i just budgets for departments given sufficient funding last year which failed to perform operational cost still remain approximately eighteen million dollars higher than in fiscal year two thousand and fifteen but overall the h s proposal is seventeen million dollars lower than the fiscal year two thousand and fifteen budget on average real property tax rates are being proposed to be reduced by three point five percent as property values have increased thirteen point five percent on average real i would ask that you can also look for and cons of the following important initiatives that have been included in this budget one hundred strictures in spending in each department salary operations in equipment dollars to continue the battle to eradicate gokey frogs and then initiative to generate approximately five million dollars in additional revenues brain hansen operations at the real property tax division initiative to improve our municipal golf course and allow for greater flexibility on rates making it more competitive with private courses and moving it closer to the mandate that it be self sustaining f funding for non profits will remain generally remain at the same level as they were in fiscal year twenty fifteen and finally members of one of the highlights is in keeping with section three  to be the policy of the county to promote economy efficiency and improve service in the transition of the public business i'm recommending following the story out of funds in the office of council services to examine ways to as well as transportation reducing premium pay were feasible and generally leaving equivalent personal accounts on change from fiscal year twenty fifteen i would tell  you we did look at different ways of approaching a piece so you'll notice in the review members that we made some shiftiness we did some transferring that i took to heart from the one of his earlier state of the county statements and how to deal with personnel positions so i'm looking at attrition in that shifting vacancies  before i even consider adding a position the cost or residence members or the council to do nothing and allow the major allow the mayor's budget to take into effect to me is too hi so i suggest we start with the exhumed and nothing is free and do what it tastes that we were elected to do which is to budget responsibly and so members as i present you with a proposal that is what  have additions regarding the changes in the chairs recommendations for rates and fees in appendix b you would notice we did until we finally sting's close our members will not deal with the fringes and the final calculations are in those areas so you will have time to review it staff will be available for questions of clarification i will be around also so saying that we are going to be in recess until one thirty this afternoon we came up with the chairs proposal and then after this round will adjourn for the day and then i'm sure we are going to hear comments regarding the proposal over the next day or two and my my plan is hopefully sometime thursday in the afternoon or at the latest first thing friday morning then we start working toward consensus on the items  within the budget proposal i think any questions on how we're planning to proceed for today and again there is no decision today we just reviewing for i get a sense of how we i developed the proposal for you to look at under repair pretty under revenues members i again we extend that currently two hundred fifty dollars and for the minimum are asked about the question of fairness in which category of group is paying what percentage or and amounts of taxation but i left it alone basically because at this point in time one of the interesting factors involving revenues members is that while we had increased valuation in various categories by information received from rate we've got a real property taxation by the various categories for your consideration the rates did cool lower because of the growth in valu went up and basically i'm looking at two hundred fifty two plus million dollars from the real property tax  approximately five and a half percent in additional revenue so yes while we made this cuts i read his proposed cuts to you i'm still asking tax base to pay about five and a half percent more in their taxes part of the difference you will see is you chose approach to bahrain a part of this is again to make our tax base have a better understand what is the true cost of their government so any questions on the real property tax portion members and that's where you see the reduction in the rates but just minutes in the amount being asked for generation and then the new net estimate revenue of  two hundred fifty three point five four eight five six three million dollars from this source to pay for the but any questions members kate will continue few do please i'm happy to entertain your questions or concerns by the chair really didn't do much recurrence services the t t again unless the legislature does something crazy i think we can depend on this amount of public service company tax license permits we did make an adjustment under license in the regarding to look pretty partment reduction at eighty intergovernmental a reduction of the s r f by thirty six point one six zero million into final transfers this is something which i worked hard to see how we could make those special funds  have better integrity and ability to reduce general fund transfers so you see that just a menace to solid ways to golf and also we took into account the but i am confident enough to say this is a reasonable basis for the budget purposes and so that number has been adjusted to forty five for one five one five one million dollars for total estimated revenues a reduction of one hundred thirteen million six and you are one six zero million to five hundred eighty six million three seventy two zero seven eight as regards to this proposal any questions members equipment ok and i thought that was a more fair and responsible way than asking the general fund to take over just divisions request they could mean is granted it's just painted different he's been yeah yeah ok very good thank you thank please the county clerk we did again make revisions the church was fair to review the legislative branch as much as we scrutinized the administrative branch and departments so i have made a few other adjustments improve how we approach staffing it is in my review that i feel that the secretary section needs an additional food claim position so that is what if suggest positions also regarding support services and we need to do this better we cannot do it i mean i know what kind of a contract say it states but does it make sense for you to have an employee stay out one of the five days to monday through friday and the coming saturday and it takes center is the one thing the operations to do it better than we currently are we can improve just like everybody else so that is just a way for every considerate again i'm not asking for any decisions regarding that complaints i know mr wong had talked about in anticipation of my thing is if this is going to be mandated to the state i don't want the excuse of the county already paying for it takes us out of position of receiving state funding for a new mandated requirement so i'm willing to defer it and wait for next years resubmit only an additional discussion point two four two million if you have questions if not i'm going to just keep going through department of environmental management you hardly see any adjustments on the funds in those fun regarding balls i can say one of the challenges we did have is on the way i guess your study had recommended to place overhead charges for various departments and divisions missed the buzz off so it was an interesting challenge for us on that different way of approaching it and that's wife for some of them budget problems like gulf big difference on the difference between breaking even and the subsidy that's on the approach of overhead so you know i can say we appreciate what you did to assist us but it's interesting challenge now one point one two five million dollars consideration members but this is after reviewing the special funds that if there are balances available my recommendation for you to consider is knowing the age of our waste water system our sewer systems knowing that the feds are going it's pretty much not going to provide what he did in the past to construct the original system of that eighty percent my thing is that maybe we can show some little bit pre planning in the finances to start a pot to take care of when we go really start moving and paying the full bill for so a line replacements and improvements so it's just a consideration i'm asking you to think about as one way to approach funding the costs in the future obscene equipment which was done to every division every department including the legislative branches requests other proviso that seventy thousand is the current seventy thousand from this current budget which i used issues from our plant and my disappointment in management of this division not to have been able to mitigate and avoid these potential issues so i'm not very happy with how we dealing with that operation on p eight under solid waste management again members who have been through a lot of review with this division a lot of concerns so at this point in time i am recommending to you to delete the civil engineer at three and reduce the sorry for the system division chief heard their response and bt dash for teen chair is recommending transferring to construction equipment mechanics one from public works and provide adding a proviso that the construction mechanic one positions i transferred from the department of public works  is going to have to review minutes asked you to consider supporting it but adding the proviso that that is what they need to use the position for is what they requested freaking premium pay and ops we did make adjustments because of the change in status regarding the construction and demolition under the environmental protection sustainable and we reduce premium payment operations so their new number is four point one seven five million accounts program issues in this area i currently am going to recommend deletion of expansion positions and reducing premium pay ups and equipment so their new talking about a chance to perform and if of bringing in as i understood from our administrators over five million dollars new revenue for this expense aside this time i would ask you the committee to consider this this is something that's going to be a plus for us in the near future if mr us to read continues to give us the results he's gotten from previous counsel initiated and supported  lusions at the bottom of eleven under treasury and i deleted the expansion position adjusted premium pay ups and equipment for expansion so their new number is nine six three two five two thousand dollars supplemental transferred to solid waste i reduced the number for certified funds i made additional reductions from the funds and made the increase adjustment regarding the c n d landfill so this fun is going to be adjusted to twelve point two seven nine point eight two million dollars on some of the rates so that's another reduction so open space fun we're looking now that would be added to it's account is two point five three five million dollars seem was supposed to as minus eight is to address the overtime premium pay for those who can and for those who cannot receive it's a contractual thing that the county is so i think  just by these contract to a component full of overtime premium be looking at what over almost four point something five million dollars for this one department only so i mean those adjustments  rescue numbers twenty six million for twenty seven one one seven dollars fire prevention i believe i am recommended lieschen a firefighter position but just missed two premium pay ops and he quipped meant their new number is eight eight seven zero eight one thousand dollars ocean safety i have i kept it recommend keeping it in parks and rec department of housing and human concerns no adjustment in the admin in the housing program i mean an adjustment to reduce ops by seventy thousand so this program would put on two five seven seven zero consideration did no more than two hundred thousand show before each agency also asked i have sent a request to the department must be able to explain to this committee how decisions are made and who is going to be held fifteen numbers human concerns that see we just need some of just adjustments to be dutch small reduction to early childhood resource equipment so the participation of ten thousand three hundred dollars a year each my cooperative ed i've reduced it by half by women helping women back to two thousand fifteen levels coalition for dr phil and i back to two thousand and fifteen a holiday for my train new requests a vacuum a deletion best's program status quo underage drinking status quo or teen voices we deleted this and i believe we placing this in another section of the budget sisters two thousand and fifteen level boys and girls club to close in fifteen a level good success and their recommending deletion i know you'd center no change family services was that down to twenty fifteen level or was that an actual reduction that's a new grant request they had a previous grant i think in fiscal fourteen for capital program this one as for operations so so it's a new one then but you didn't get special needs children and early childhood or early child care and then youth and family services line five one for you it was that a new program too you to you that i believe this three hundred something thousand right now in the fine that's going to consider one hundred fifty thousand to assist in the foresman portion of their budget requests so to the twenty fifteen member and their liquor control i have recommended to you very slight reduction in premium pity i've reduced  under department of management on page twenty five yes this is the program money from the office of economic development and moving it to the managing directors office because of the energy he with us and that is there feel that position so i'm just making this adjustment for the interim members from a budgetary standpoint ok from the eighty component i had this time i'm asking you to consider deletion over expansion was issuance of adjusted to reduce premium pay ups and so their equipment i'm just going to run through this so you can understand the approach i made to make this proposal to you for your consideration again no decisions today we will bring back and i'm sure there will be company through any give their equipment and the operations is that essentially making some cuts on the keep a replacement yes sir and the i guess the equipment would be the lifecycle  don't the budget office and the budget program area so if you would look in this one area there is a slate increase because to one point four three five one one million dollars it that's all static numbers state department of a fifty thousand i believe this was for his study we will have discussion i'm sure members have different perspectives page thirty arts cuts a sound a capital requests i reduce that back to four hundred if you recall their requests to us also eight hundred we gave them four hundred last year and now we giving them the balance then that's the one that i was just a little confused about i want because you had the seventy six thousand and the seventy five thousand away and then out of this budget and moved over to the pardon of management only seventy five thousand so i wasn't sure what  the thank you seventy six is the position in the seventy partition seventy five is the ops oh gotcha ok thank you thank you you know the questions on  hour thank you for that question let's see our core culture marine status quo environmental protections remains the same i believe one point two million dollars is a very responsible number for your consideration we have information on the amount of applications and types of impacts the ch confidently at this point recommend to you this one point two consideration is something that is responsible and we are approaching this very important issue  recreation i'm going to ask you to consider the leading the expansion which is the internes make some adjustments in overtime in a peroration was so adamant program would go down to one point three nine a revised number for this program era for four point one zero five to eight four million dollars a part of the thing you chair had to work with stefan was you know they also have a system wide requests in every district and their capital two dollars and the recreation support again i am asking for some adjustments in position as we note changes in e p we currently have a part caretaker position available i'm requesting that this be changed from food bank to have time and there are needs from from our building maintenance and also to reduce some premium any equipment pay so this new program areas number is going to be sixteen point zero nine zero million  dollars no changes in pals in the way who golf course program go fun we just made an adjustment on premium pair so from the gulf fund we looking at one point nine zero eight six seven eight million dollars page thirty four note you didn't touch any of the overhead charges are saying mr baez's recommendations apartment of personnel services at this point i reckon many deletion of expansion tweaking operations in premium period so do a new number would be one point four eight seven three four seven million dollars under department of planning i'm recommending deletion of the expansion position adjustment of over time in operations and at this point in time recommending deletion of their assessment needs assessment for the county zoning code my thing is i think we need to have some discussion with that department i think it's great that and we should be study the county should participate but i think the property owners also have a vested interest and should participate also so that is my consideration for your decision to make sure yes ma'am but there's no actual amount set aside so yeah that's just the wording with no actual dollar amount attached is out that say yeah i just  to the requests so he goes down to two hundred fifty thousand mr yes mr koch is that a reduction to last year's level or just a across the board of reduction equipment so then you numbers twenty seven million five hundred fifty four three seventy nine dollars technical support services on just  ops eight point six six five eight four eight million dollars department of prosecuting attorney no no adjustments being recommended reductions to the m s four requests of two thought two hundred thousand to bring down their program area to four million sixty thousand for sixty to general fine public works there are requests for a da dozer for the yell flood control project bringing this program which is a slate which is increased now to three point a we tweet premium over time so now there are two point three two one seven four four million highways highway five we tweet premium pay so they're at five twenty three seven six eight thousand dollars and others we see didn't touch the fringes road bridge drainage under highway fire i'm so they'll be at one point five three six five four seven million dollars vote changes to garage services department of transportation reduction of ops by ten thousand  reducing it by one hundred thousand dollars so this program will go down to ten point three zero five five zero zero million dollars department of water supply i'm sorry that's an expansion requests that is part that is noted in the contract ok thank you thank you for that question aired to seven point five zero three six one six million dollars under the grants those changes for the county were a watershed allocation the change for each why do we like to see the money i'm at this point but convinced so that's my recommendation this cochran thank you chair and we had discussion and yeah i was through our budget process trying to get  more clarity upon this particular new grant and continue to want to get in for the clarity so i understand thank you for leaving a somewhat leaving it there on the page and then we shall vet it out and discover what we needed at this point but need to understand who will be the recipient to carry it out so that too is very important to reach or so yes definitely into this to see whether you really need it or not  again i really didn't touch any of the fringes components underwater operations program under water fire and i made adjustments to over time operations in manner so now from water fire and water operations their program here is adjusted to a thirty point three eight four five three three million dollars you you said you're going to have the details available for these because that seems like a lot i don't know what the yet we can wait how he did to write that it was ok thanks so total operating  twenty two million one thirty four and seventy two dollars for a revised now operating appropriation i'm on a five hundred eleven million zero seventy one seven two five dollars i believe i went on a twenty five percent reduction in one i thought it was very aggressive and two i would like them to finish what this started because if you see the funding requests for next year and following a capital site grows immensely so for me i'm happy to give them opportunities to show what they can do the successes so there is money for them they'll have a lot of projects and i hope they can perform and again this is just the issues budget requests make sure they'll have had the recommending that we move this from a general fund which cleared up enough to the highway fund and i'll consider this and be paid for through the highway funds to that's why you see this recommendation  redevelopment program and this project that's been decades weeding i am i recommended this good to seven point four nine one six lane one million of how we might want to approach this expansion team would be better served off from the bond fund for this assessment and using highway funds to pay for this request feel any highway in a roadway so the net then will be five hundred thousand regarding this project  hundred fifty thousand  total to six million to sixty eight zero sixty eight dollars thousand i keep bikeway fees to interchange is a county way bike way improvements i made a reduction of one fifty and that's where you see the improvements for the yes maybe i didn't hear but did you talk about the can i road safety improvements yes that we are recommended that shouldn't be from the bonfire thank you campus electrical upgrades i am i would recommend a reduction of three hundred with a balance remain a one point two million dollars cologne on maui campus expansion delete twenty nine point eight million dollars assist in pain or i don't know utilizing very drainage system of some sort versus we create our own because you said deletion in discussion chair there is one hundred thousand dollars in the fiscal fifteen budget and and one of the responses back from public works they had asked us to they recommended the division of the hundred barn requests from eight point three six million we've had two two point one six two million what you don't see under the bonnet as we've gone through the earlier sections is being recommended to be paid for through cash public safety radio replacement leaving a five point seven one million dollars that is fired the department's requests have a million dollars for consent so rehab program shirton wastewater lift station modifications a reduction twenty percent west smile we recycle water justed by three hundred forty that go and i'll bring it down to one point three six million dollars for the project sewers under county worried no change one million dollar project wouldn't we're going to get ten million dollar bids because we've got a leg graft that that's what we willing to pay even if we could get it at one million so i am asking the divisions and department rehab force me replacement i'm asking you to consider one point one reduction but to steal the leave four point four million dollars for this project one of my and i would think that until we can get some better sense of we we would be heating into once we either get the official ruling or an agreement in place here in your comments during the review of this project's i think we can wait here for a year and wait on this request know what the council passed in policy and what we expect to be implemented by the departments so talk is one thing a walk is love and i'm  in the amount of nine point five eight two two five three million dollars waterfront unrestricted or changes to the conservation program under a county wide facility i recommend deletion of the forty million dollars and they're trying to wait upgrades in replacement for many a reduction of two point two million dollars leaving them in this program with two million dollars but  proviso that i'm recommending it for your consideration that says provided funds may be expended only on the following projects for a six upcountry booster fifth floor renovations design and construction that is to c a p component their mayor had proposed one hundred sixty six million seven hundred thirty thousand three hundred forty one dollars each year is recommending a reduction of ninety one million for twenty nine hundred eighty eight leaving a balance for c p for this year at seventy five million three hundred thousand three hundred fifty three dollars total appropriations moving in from six ninety nine one three six two three eight million dollars reducing it by one hundred thirteen million five hundred sixty four one six zero dollars for a new five hundred eighty six million three hundred seventy two zero seven eight dollars key then you have appendixes which is a lot of your grant funding revenue sources members  see the ad in the subtraction of that is the four hundred sixty eight thousand dollars from my we think share venture and that there are great revenues for so committees recommendation level number now is seventy one million five ninety one six one three key on page eighty while we just have some language revision proposals leaving out the word or phrase metals in a band in vehicle and certification number fourteen point one three million dollars for the fiscal year two thousand and sixteen budget requests on page eighty five we have a new language as regards to the about earlier for sarah lane really replacement and that is the one point nine two five seven seven eight million dollars so total revolving door special funds the mayor had proposed seventy six million one hundred eighty one six eighty five i am recommending to you in addition of sixteen million for seventy five ninety  they may be those that will say that we have   for the needs of a growing colony so i think there is a great opportunity for administration to manage the monies of the taxpayers and you and be strong directors in getting the job done and so i think any questions the next two days i'm sure we're going to get a lot of questions  and so i'm looking at this point asked by members hopefully starting thursday afternoon going through the beginning of consensus reviews going back just a general question for me state revolving loan fund yes is that like cap out or it mean if we don't try and get a sense from this is you know upcoming physical or do we stand yes my understanding of s or if it's kind of like the idea of the step where we've got to get ourselves aligned in their plan and they're available funding and once were aligned in that plan that's when we produce  request to council to to fund the project so these are the departments of water in environmental management have aligned these projects for funding from from that the department of health before we presented to council so if the council does not approve moving forward with these projects then that money would have to release that back to the state department of health  for either other projects in different counties or if we come up with different proposals but we have to go probably go to the end of the line in that request because we've made these requests over various years to get in the correct line and did you learn a little more detail in regards to that transaction because i recall this body didn't really have much to go on and i was looking for more information  if i can give you a better recommendation i left it because i did it if i had enough information to recommend you to keep it in your deed leaving it at this point think so by leaving it in with you know thank you for the question we should anybody would like to give a comment she's happy to receive it and i if i'm sorry anything with a coach actually a question on procedure for the next few days yeah yeah the next few days i would say is this into the feedback from the community as well those departments so we're going to have them in well and definitely they can do it through testimony if you need specific resources back then das you give the stuff some time to allow it because we need going to need to request the resources to the office of the mayor and i'm as going to need to review and approve it to grant it is there to show up here so if you have someone nurse area that you would like to have before the committee then this make me make us aware so we can put in the proper request to america and then again  might thing is hopefully we can start going through consensus review by thursday afternoon i would like if we can to finish the general decision of the budget  to my current schedule and plan to keep us on plame and be able to take into account some potential unforeseen situations that's the plan at this time mr coach thank you thank you or i mean to share them with us at this time i would have known to allow you some opportunity thank you mr chair viewers for reviewing your proposal and the committee's proposal here i'm sure that the departments will want to