methamphetamines because the evidence was insufficient the district court also erred by giving a deliberate gave the jury deliberate ignorance in the struct chen was present when and whining and saif who are from china were apprehended by law enforcement chen to certain actions that were helpful to them but chen did not know that there were drugs what was driving the car it varied most of the time it was being driven by mr hong there were two cards by mr hong and the other one was driven by mr side he mr chen drove they were under surveillance and they went to a dead end road and turned around and mr chen was at that time driving there's not a lot of places to go no and he he had actually arrived on site panned several days earlier and was staying with his girlfriend and some other friends in the hotel was owned by  hong's family and mr hong stopped by the hotel because he had to pick up a sim card for his cell phone and they had chatted before so he knew  that chen was there and he thought well you know i'll go with my cousin in the car and show him a little bit of  and mr chen did drop off another car at another hotel and then now it was about one hour later before they get they get they actually got busted so the mister the can i ask a question if we're supposed to take the facts in the light most favorable to the prosecution which is what we're supposed to do at this point  after wang dropped off the mazda which is the vehicle which side would later place the drugs yes taken just just the specs i guess in the light most favorable to the prosecution is that distance away where they in the vehicle that he was that he had rented and though hong and yes and they never use the word  drugs mister wong actually testified that he purposefully didn't want his cousin to know because he was concerned that cousin might say something to his mother and he didn't want his mother to know that he was dealing with drugs but didn't misters indicate that the defendant his answer was a little bit more i guess in mean didn't say oh yeah i told him he just said i do such bad things he must know that i'm doing something bad that's in essence what he said he didn't say oh i told  n and he and also what's the best argument or what's the best case work cases for your position that there's insufficient evidence to sustain  and both of those cases the court said no there's insufficient evidence because being present during a drug deal without more isn't sufficient evidence there's got to be some kind of indication that they were participating in and there's no evidence that chen directly participated and he drove a car part of the time he loaned along his cell phone because hong cell phone stopped working that's it he didn't pick up the drugs he didn't get any money he was just there visiting with his with his cousin and mr chen lie or when he was asked about this green car what's your what's your yes argument on that well remember i said he dropped he helped drop off a car and then an hour approximately about an hour passed so the police pull pull him over to get out of the car he agrees to talk and he's asked  where's the green car it wasn't where's the green mazda where is the green car you were driving earlier because they were under surveillance this entire time he all in he said what green interpretations to that one is if he was trying to hide why would he talk to the police but he didn't he not only talked to the police but he gave them permission to search his to search hotel room and i see that i'm going to run out of time you want to reserve the balance thank you issue here is the evidence related to this defendant's connection to an undisputed conspiracy there are two there was undoubtedly a conspiracy between long inside that something that was not even dispute despite his like these cases are somewhat comparable somewhat comparable i'm i if i could the difference between those cases primarily is that in this case there is evidence of intentional participation what is that the moving or the helping of the placement of the dropped car i mean that the car is is is that was there any evidence that  purpose i mean before they go pick up the drugs they place the green monster at a hotel far away from the scene and when they pick it up they go straight to the car they put it in the back and they immediately leave so there was obviously i mean certainly reason  that that was integral to their plan to get that bucket put it in the car leave it pick it up later chan helps that car be dropped off with hwang and then to follow up on what mr bones are saying after they pick up the bucket which they believe contains drugs they go immediately to the drop car hong chan is present as they enter the hotel parking lot which only has one entry circular parking so they drive right past the green car side gets out puts the bucket in they then drive together in tandem away from the scene within minutes they're arrested so they're arrested within minutes of calculated false exculpatory statement so that was not i don't believe that was present in those cases either but we also have coordination which this court has recognized on numerous occasions  is strong evidence or saw strong circumstantial proof of an agreement there was coordination prior to the arrival of all parties on site pan there was coordination before chen was picked up but when you say court nation i saw that just wondered if that's if there's another way to characterize all of these actions because you point to the record shows that chen brought his plane ticket on his home on his own while wang and i were purchased together it's not that they were all three so i'm just trying to figure out when you say coordination normally when we see court nation all three especially in a case like this where you don't have any clear evidence that the defendant knew about the drugs the court nations a little more different trying are compelling perhaps and again those are perhaps evidence that is in the in his favor but was rejected by the jury or not taken into account and again the inference is must be drawn in the governor's favor this point time but the cordon ation they were talking about is the hotel his hotel reservation chance for hotel reservations made by huang's wife who testified was one of the masterminds of this plan and what i think is perhaps most important there's numerous phone calls between chen and hong and hwang's wife in the days leading up before the day before hong arrives chantelle sends him a message and gives him a local phone number to reach him when he arrives what i think is most important is testimony sized testimony that said long showed me around where to go where the warehouse was and reminded me to always look behind me and be careful they were driving in and chen was in the car i'm sorry i was not in the car so th way i'm sorry i just want a connection to this they get to for lack of a better expression they get to work immediately they being science long they fly into site and and off they go they go they rent the cars they drive around blanc show side where the warehouse is tells them the routes that will be taking shows him stanford hotel chen let's focus on chen and chen but which the his knowledge and intent regarding this conspiracy well i think the reason for the jury to infer that he was told what was going on through these conversations with long before him he has numerous conversations with the two masterminds of the conspiracy before they arrive how many conversations i think it was fourteen phone calls present when the green cars that's another five i forgot chan is present when the green cars rented he was sitting outside in the car with long they then go to the hotel they call the shipping company hong gets a little upset so he 's president and where all of these events are unfolding to a question ok i guess i'm just trying to reconcile our precedent especially in light of a couple these cases this classic case and i think resco but you know it seems like there are types of facts that support a permissible inference that you know your point to but our president says that permissible inferences engaged in wrongdoing rather than innocent behavior so i guess you know some of these incidents as you point to could be innocent behavior on the part of chen and i'm just trying to figure out what's your best evidence to show that you know he had knowledge especially in light of klaus c and and ramos resco and what were in those cases looked at possible explanation or innocent explanations of behavior which is now overruled and not permissible and so we cannot go into that analysis anymore we cannot say oh but there is this alternate excellent explanation it is that's not the standard anymore and that the i said the feds were present for multiple meetings i'm just trying to figure out how you distinguish those cases from this case here in terms of chen and what was you know the evidence was most compelling against him you know i would like knowledge that he was never told about drugs i believe that there is reason to infer that he was told by drugs by long based on the evidence as well has assuming that maybe but isn't it and no one is the mastermind so he knows it's a yes or no it's not a maybe why didn't you say yes in response to that question that that's how he just delivered the message that particular time  it's important to know that not only did i say he didn't know so i said i don't know if he knows so if there was also all this coordination that the government is talking about why wouldn't chen i mean why wouldn't side know and with he actually the government he refused to testify for the government he told the government that chen wasn't in on this so the government took away his plea to remit and he got sense to a much greater term and why he had every reason well you know if you go to visit a strange country and your cousin family is there and so tell and owns a car rental wouldn't you go to that hotel especially if your cousin is going to come over and visit you later where we're also would you go yes he stayed at at the hotel and why wouldn't the other two stay at the same hotel well if he didn't want his mom to know i see i'm out of time thank you