described it in terms of the employer's knowing or having reason to know both up in the sense the team and the opportunity to exercise control over the employee and we submit that the a done it there is if you do a google search now you're going to find some stories about the prosecution the conviction the sentence a lower court opinion if you do the google a motion to dismiss we have to take it as true i mean isn't that something to be argued later that hey this is a there's whatever the name was who's got eighty eight or conclusory to be able to say i mean we're left to guess as to what it was was it a was a something as simple as a whole this was a something as simple as giving her a piggyback right there but again we're at the we're we're at the most into this mistake i mean i understand the argument if it's inappropriate inappropriate behavior small lie but they're using it as a defined term that point you to what inappropriate behavior and that behavior is it's whether the violation of the two adult policy or the by lation of the safe for policy would make the is give us notice that the that he was unfit for him point we don't even have a first step because we don't know what the conduct was and it's not just of the information was beyond me jane doe knows what happened to vacation bible study with and different points over two years on the premises of the church she knows that and yet plaintiff never played what that necklace and supervision points whether we're talking about supervision or earlier in time the hiring or later in time the retention all three towards are based on a failure to exercise ordinary care but under the voluntary undertaking that we alleged by the particular salt giving rise to the suit had to be reasonably forseeable we did not assume a voluntary undertaking to protect against assaults there were no allegation that we actually even knew about the incident before the sexual assault  anyone else on the premises in the two years leading up to the assault finally going to the issue about the interaction that was inappropriate the big case in bible study program vague as to what was reported liability should not be based on speculation or be left to the imagination without facts describing what the interaction was not just that it was supervisors or employees witnessed the touching again very different than what we have here when we were not when there is no allegation what we supposedly saw were told knew or should have known before reason why we don't count chad close current information and yes we're going to see his conviction or going to see recent reports of what happened is because he hasn't been using those tools because he's been in a play show to an adult male that movie was shown to the youth in the church on church equipment the question isn't whether james knew correct well actually i'm an a power for notice no i don't think it's correct because that's a great person in the church right and if when you're talking about notice i'm notice you're talking about if we're talking about proximate here about the movie goes to the object of standpoint and that at the same point not only applies to the reasonable for the ability to do the site but also on cross mikasa because otherwise what's going to happen is you're going to have people puttin it's dangerous to you know your twenty's hindsight's twenty twenty years but we have to look at a point in time when you know when these acts took place with hiring took place don't we sure and at the time that he was are pleading alleges is that all he had to do was run a google search to find out that he was on pornographic web sites included child pornography and not just one or two i've listed we found new one two three four five six so at that time irene that was discovered but beyond that they had to do something we'll actually they did nothing so at the time  of irene they actually had a duty to use reasonable care when they are hiring this man what is that reasonable care well what would a reasonable person do when they're hiring somebody who's watching you now there is a safe church policy is in place and you know