retailers who think black friday starts the day before i think that's a little crummy to get that a p m thanksgiving still well you know i truly if there was one corporation in the world that there was a c e o who was working pleasure to be back great to have you guys such as far traveling on back in the commute is killing me thank you for surviving the snow flurries that we had this squall snowmageddon we we had a good if you've logged in your face will pick out the last day or two i'm sure you've had at least one friend if not many friends reposed saying this this kind of privacy hoax that oh you know i'm taking copyright claim of all my works on facebook because they were told that if they which is worse the fact and i don't i don't want to make fun of people for jumping on these kind of things because all of us at some point are going to be targeted and you're going to at least have to stop and think for a second you know is this something internets you know there's a chance this research anything and so my question is which is worse people can jump on this stuff without taking ten seconds to research and find out whether it's true or not before they start buying into these kind of things or the fact that facebook's privacy regulations are so confusing to some people and there every kind of ever changing ever more from that it allows this to be that people get scared biden that that  worse the fact that people aren't taking the time to research a potential hoax or the fact that facebook has made it seem so real because of whether policies are that's absolutely the posts that the people are putting out there and thinking  there's nothing wrong with them i agree with every part of it but then these people are still going to do this kind of stuff just do it about different topics that you would think that by now that we would learn from the chain letter or the spam e mails that this is this  stupidity which is the lower part of people's ignorance i think i'd agree with bon or the fact that people are stupid over these chain letters but at the same time it's also stupid that a real legitimate corporation is out there just will now have ownership over anything i type on a word processor because i mean c'mon is now i say this knowing there are seventy five eighty year old people out there who believe its legitimacy along with a frightening number of my own peers who believed it and knowing as well in thirty forty years there will be some stupid scam that more than likely we are falling for because we haven't kept pace with all of the new technologies new media and new information that feel ourselves falling away with our cynicism with these privacy settings much as everybody hates them myself included they also think that most people are realizing that how is facebook supposed to make money it is a free service that everybody uses this is how they make their money and this is how they can still cooperate on their surfers well and i think part of it too is that these these companies aren't doing a fantastic job of people a lot of people unfortunately going into the using the all that stuff and has to go through a server somewhere that's not your home and asked me i mean but but i guess i deleted my internet history doesn't that they were ok i guess my problem is that kids wake up  gone away no it's not recover at all but i guess that it's a new age for people and i don't know why there's this i don't know if it's just people having a hard time adjusting to a bigger and bigger industry and pretty soon you know which is going to go on every photo that's ever been posted anywhere they're going to see who's in the background of every shot and you know in which i think sasha cohen i can't wait to see it because that's how many thousands of photos you're in that you have no idea because to try to pick up more sales than tennis a one point two million devices black the black friday week i want to ask best deals that you saw or took part in was there anything that excited even i don't know if it's because people are still in an economic rut or we're starting to see the comeback out of that rut what are you guys think i mean i don't i don't think that's sort of the sales on black day so i bought one i didn't do i didn't do the proper research where normally the rest of the rest of the year i would to a lot of people get taken over with that kind of fever thinking that they're saving money whether they're doing same comebacks or some i think to the consumer market has grown i mean there years ago you weren't buying a computer for your friends or your family but now you might buy an i pad or a tablet i think that these expensive ish you know the consumer level products  gotten a little more expensive a little more readily available and more mainstream for people that may cause an uptick in the amount of money that's being spent on things that is i think traditionally that's what  friday is luxury items and also you know kind of well ask the pointed question how many people are actually out there buying gifts of televisions for other people they have are buying them they go kid i was i was joking yesterday about how i feel obligated not to spend on myself during this time although i'm sitting looking at amazon and looking at fantastically radios my three ninety nine for something that i would pick up in a heartbeat but  se cyber monday for the first time surpassed a billion dollars in sales and they're saying estimates do you think there's ever going to come a point in time really in the near future where cyber monday will overtake black friday as far as majority purchases and i don't know i look out at a majority of purchases maybe but i think as far as certain things at least right now in my immediate future i still think i'm going to go to the store to buy certain items furniture more than likely a television would i buy a television online computer on line i have but i think there are certain things that i still want to hold and touch and see until that best buy you know cracks over and does kill itself which i don't think is that far away i would do a h h gregg for the first time and i thought it was look like an old maytag's  en i was not impressed very underwhelming but it still does have that opportunity of seeing those items and getting to those things i think as far as technology goes i still want to see hold and touch those things in a lot of senses future at all just because the i don't see the companies allowing that to happen they're going to offer better deals on black friday because they're getting me to come into the store going to see many more products if i go into the store versus me online because we're going to show the deals are online and  bad i want to get a television today so many get this one right i mean my television concern was my t v blew up you know and we're exercising upstairs so i'm still not to a point i can exercise to nothing for an hour or so i want to watch something that was a focal you and i get to there's an experience too of going now for a certain segment of population but i still could not believe traffic was up on black friday  turning to some sad news digital trends as an article about the end of windows x p well that's coming and has less than five hundred days of support life support left before it goes away august or april eighth two thousand and fourteen that will be twelve years and five months after the community i think that x p was such a stable stable platform that vista and seven and now even windows eight don't offer a lot to the business user as far as is an windows lives and breathes by the business world i mean you can see how many businesses use them versus adopting an apple machine is still like ninety three right it's ridiculously overwhelming and to think that it took that long for seven to finally catch up or x p has been how long is it going to take for eight to overpass eight is the cool looking technology but you're going to retrain a heck of a lot of workers on that up there a lot of machines see from my perspective and this is my stupid low tech life i didn't see a reason to upgrade myself on my computer was still functioning and x p was relatively stable for me to buy a new computer under the seven or vista model i didn't see a reason to because it was so similar it had tiny little upgrades and greater advantages but not a lot different for me to cause you know five hundred thousand dollar upgrade on something like that and my you know what is it eight nine year old computer has been limping its way along in the safety and i've been using the school computers for this long i didn't see a reason to invest that much to upgrade but now that windows eight is out i'm waiting until the new year when everything gets a little bit more stable and changes over i'm upgrading to eight next year and so i'm assuming and this is kind of getting back to the surface r t and all of the windows maneuver and i think that that's why so much confusion right now is that people are saying well i don't understand what business gets out of it i think windows is hope is thinking maybe jumping into the minds of the bomber but if they're saying you know we can keep the business market because they're going to we upgrade every so often but what if we could come up with some cool stuff and windows eight being a very you know driven towards the consumer type of of thing us of this next thing is you know the next couple phases are going to be it so that maybe businesses are going to go from expiate to to what you know some going to seven some going to eight but not all of them leaving x p and so they have to and then in two so i've started playing around with ultraviolet we kind of talked about in some other shows i want to give it a shot and see if this is really worth them either of you have ever tried and for those that don't know what is basically when you purchase a physical disk you're getting a streaming version of it but as set of an actual physical copy it is and the internet is up on the cloud and you can watch it on a device that is compatible with ultraviolet my initial experience with it has been very surprisingly and it's a service that when you think wow this would be really cool i would love to digitize my collection i would love the bill to buy something and then watch it on the i'm a tablet or on the meter anywhere and not have to sit there  and carry it out especially you know it and as companies like apple every apple profit came out this year the new ones i think every single one of them that they released they don't have optical drives and or you don't have you have a space to put a cd or d v d in anymore or blu ray or whatever download an i tunes i might have watched one of those copies once though i was like having them is taking up some of his shelf space on the computer i've tried the streaming once before as well you have to wonder if this is this because people were in a rush to get this out to compete against i tunes because i tunes is becoming at least the consumer of the central hub for people and their movies or music or anything like that and they didn't really think it through or they don't have somebody the head has that if you have all these different companies competing at the same place i think of trying to control it too much and that's the problem i think rather they're trying to make it so that you can't make copies and the idea is you can't make a copy you in essence can you know well i mean i download i think every movie that i did digital copy of and i try to do about once a year just because that seems to be the general time number one i'm buying these in a minute the expiration time so i went through and downloaded every copy and i put it on my drive the ironic thing to me is as my dr bates gets bigger and bigger and cheaper and cheaper i mean i was looking at you know fifty dollars to t v drive and i was like oh my gosh that's amazing i have less and less stuff to put on there because so much more of its management quality i do like and all interrelated talk i like amazon's cloud server where i can purchase something digitally and only download it when i want to that i like because i don't have to download it now but if i want to i can and if the service was in that sense then i'd be a greater fan of it and probably use it more readily that seems to be like something else going to replace it but i think there's a lot of efforts here number one like you said eliminate the ready available to copy or move something to decrease the amount of space they have to use to send out that file seventeen times i mean let's face it i like their download a bunch of these movies but maybe watch three or four and not twenty five or twenty eight or whatever i have so mean the cost to them there you know decreasing that associated costs but like it's junk it's  garbage and i have to be in a place that i can use that number to uses up my you know amount of information i'm sending across three it takes up the space that i'm using forget it i don't want that give me a digital copy or don't give me the same thing i'm talking about with the digital copies being standard definition versus high definition most of the time i don't even know until i heard of the download right the high definition version on this is the one i want that's going to take up a heck of a lot more my computer space but same time that's that's how i would be using the digital copy because i don't have a blu ray player on every television i think that i have something that can connect to the internet like my x box or something now i can watch it on the television hopefully in high definition whereas  can't anymore same thing with your streaming ultraviolet company some good internet knows well i mean i would minute left real quick this past weekend twilight and skyfall number one and two they're already both in the top one