ok people it's february thirteenth it's a little after four o'clock so it's planning time looking for some minutes to be approved there support support  those of the high prices down there next item on the agenda is communications from the audience for anything that is not on our agenda this is the time to come forward to talk about that if you would like now is anybody in the audience like to communicate anything to us that's not on the agenda going once twice three times unfinished side you want to talk about this a little bit first thirty you want to have the applicant come up anybody here from speedway that wants to do this tonight foley and i'd like to apologize in advance i'm battling a little bit of a cold so you know bear with me as i move through this presentation tis the season  correct i'm here before you tonight and again respectfully requesting site plan approval i was here last month and gave a real brief presentation of our plan some changes that we made and kind of tried to walk through the plan somewhat briefly and what i'd like to do tonight is kind of go through that plan again but also describe some additional changes that have been made in response to some of the comments that were made from your staff specifically related to traffic and also related to storm water and then some landscaping comments as well i think the plan we have before you this evening addresses all of those concerns not only from a traffic perspective but also from a stormwater and landscape perspective the site as you see before you is a proposed again spirits an existing speedway site that will  be turned into a speedway c dash forty six hundred store that is approximately forty six hundred square feet it will have twelve passenger car fueling stations and three c f l fueling stations for trucks access to the site is by a three site driveways and if you will the site plan before you the north arrow is actually facing down so what we like to call interchange drive north is on the bottom of the page interchange drive south is on the top of the page so when it when you hear me refer to those you'll you'll know what i'm referring to the three side access points that i'd like to describe and i'll get into the circulation of three of those drives as well along with some of the traffic comments that were made in how we address those but the three axis drive specifically are on interchange drive north we have a truck slash passenger car ingress egress point and that will be for access an interchange drive south we have what i would call  the western mills driveway which will be the truck passenger car exit and then to the east this is where one of the changes came in we have the passenger car right in right out only driveway so those are the three proposed access points for the site if i could have a page through to the last slide i'd like to go through just some of the circulation the site as are cars went to the site you know from the north they'll turn right at interchange drive and though they will then turn left into the speedway driveway and then they can exit  turning left out at the speedway truck driveway and then exit at the traffic signal existing traffic signal either left or right passenger car traffic from the south can't turn actually left onto interchange drive south and turn then right into the right in right out to gain access to the site and then they can exit the site back north through the the passenger car truck driveway some of this gets a little confusing but but this circulation again it works really really well truck traffic from the north now these are trucks we're actually truck traffic we actually turn right into the development onto interchange drive north they will then turn left into again the passenger car truck driveway they will fuel up and then exit and interchange drive south at the four access driveway leading to the traffic signal truck traffic to and from the south would then enter interchange drive south circle all the way around turn right on the inner change drive north and enter the northernmost access point so in other words the truck fueling operation is one way only for trucks won't be able to enter the interchange drive north access point an exit the interchange drive south point that's important kind of go over what you know how the circulation operates trucks will not be able to exit out on to interchange drive north and exit the right and right out that movement is currently prohibited and vehicles or trucks cannot actually travel in that manner and it is signed a bridge trucks for making that movement so again all the trucks will operate from the north to the south in that type of pattern this is some of the things we did our traffic impact study to go back and really look at is one moment where you i'm sure you've got a fairly complicated thing here that he doesn't have any questions about the circulation also fresh in people's minds situations that have that everybody's turns left anyway and that's a good question i think what what happens there is if you see some of those facilities they don't really have a defined right and right out the call the pork chop island this island well it's actually an m dot he tell it and you can see on our site plan it really funnels the person to the right you know for person to turn right out and then a left would be really difficult to do not only that vehicles will queue in the left beyond that you know basically making that a right in right out movement that that is a good question to north rather than from north to south other then you know they they would be able to fuel up the whole circulation it will be in that manner from the north into the south or you're going to have the fuel set up so that you can do both thanks i'm not exactly sure how that part will be set up but that the flow will be from the from the north through the south yes it will be signed i believe it's currently signed now that way as well so your truck parking that is a back end over the right right shoulder parting that they would back in that's correct have you ever done that in the facility over the right shoulder yes ok i just have experience with a rabbit large building somewhere that had forty docked or set up in that manner and there was a lot of damage from guys they don't like coming in and that's i prefer coming in the left side  so i just want to get that situation where people do it once and say that's a pain in the ass and i coming around the other way now so i'd like to see as monitor this at some point in the future we could do a motion on this that should probably include some form of monitoring that maybe by o'brien's office just make sure the circulation working as intended and if i could go back again to the slide that we were previous on i believe it's a second slide there so this plan b for you tonight again i'll point out some of the changes that we did make from our prior some metal specifically the minor change drive south the easternmost the city engineer on that chewing distance and we speedway is is agreeable to making that driveway writing right out movement in addition this plan shows a encompasses the site it will extend from the sidewalk on m forty wrapping around the site kind of in a horseshoe pattern intersecting this sidewalk in m forty again and that sidewalk will be designed according to city standards i believe that with this six feet and in with in addition we are showing an extension of the existing eastbound to northbound left turn that will extend back beyond our proposed now right in right out driveway we're going to extend that left turn lane all the way back to our truck passenger car exit driveway so that's i think in total would be i think it's right around the five her foot length so we're going to be extending that back quite a ways and also like to point out in our last meeting comments centered around mentally traffic but also stormwater we did receive stormwater approval from the it's actually the tulip in our county drain board on january twenty sixth of this year and i'm not sure for you all have seen that but we did receive approval from them on the storm water the traffic impact study we did submit  revised copy to the city you know the city engineer hired a third party to review that traffic study they found it to be conservative i don't believe they had many comments on it i believe your city engineer  somewhat agreed with the consultant in terms of the studies a conservative analysis and with the improvements that we're making you know we're certainly mitigating the impact that were there were there were making on the interchange i'd like to just finally talk about land the landscape plan i kind of mentioned that again in the last meeting there were several changes to the landscape plan from our initial submittal specifically the landscape plan we added a substantial amount of plantings along m forty and really kind of beefed up the m forty corridor there with landscape planning we  also in a few areas were directed to shift a few trees in order to make sure that we had sight distance at the truck passenger car exit so we feel the landscape plan before you tonight satisfies your ordinances and in summary i thank you this evening for your time and myself along with speedway are here to answer any questions you may have and again thank you very much  from what i read going through the traffic impact study that was submitted to the city there's a there's that the intersection at interchange drive and lincoln or m forty as traffic grows in that area that interchange continues to get more and more congested and i followed your process of how you forecasted traffic for that intersection going from two thousand and sixteen to two thousand eighteen and then the build option putting your site in place and so forth once you get ten years out into the future you're twenty twenty eight once you add your facility the the entertain church especially that one movement that left turn movement just totally fails i mean it's not just near failure it's way beyond failure so it's a it's a serious problem that needs to be addressed and i think you did address that in your study but what i'm what i'm wondering about is whether i think you proposed if you have growth takes place as as the traffic impact studies suggest it's going to that you would recommend to left turn lanes coming out on t m forty yeah and my question is was that option modeled or was it just do you think that it's going to say reconcile that problem already did you model it with the data that you have to make sure that it does bring that level of service up to a level of service d sure those those are very good questions and i actually did i do that perform the traffic impact study myself ok so what i would like to note is we used a conservative growth factor we don't know if two percent is going to be the growth rate but for instance some other developments cross street in the area used i think half a percent we want to be again present a conservative analysis and you know really look at what's what's happening out there and i feel safe two percent you added two percent on to the lincoln avenue traffic all all the traffic volumes two percent per year yes with that which is pretty extensive but that's a that's a pretty robust growth rate granted this area has grown as well what i would like to mention is during the two thousand and eighteen build we have shown that the left turn and our mitigation improvements will will work granted there yes there will be a q there i mean there's already a current queue there now in our model shows that well i think by work you're saying the level of service he and that's for that movement now that's for that movement that's just movement the overall intersection actually operates fine and if and if you look at the models that we presented in your i know you your higher traffic and salt did as well and if you look at the synchro that cycle actually clear out that left turn lane another factor that we included in the the synchro analysis actually a model that we put together it's a software program it's basically like you're sitting down from a help looking down from a helicopter and you can see how the vehicles actually move through the intersection and we  input all the different parameters we've put the heavy truck percentages we have put the peak hour factors it's a very detailed analysis so again what we showed in our two thousand eight hundred bill condition is during one cycle that means for how the signal actually goes through one entire cycle larry that the q will actually clear on that left turn lane no again it will show maybe a d or any level service easy yeah but you do have some trucks you know that take a little bit more time to get going on now there will be some things down the road that you know that could be done but i know the overall intersection does operated  fair level service that according to your study it operates at a level he in two thousand and eighteen now when i was saying is in your forecast that goes to two thousand and twenty eight yes just ten years from now that's correct goes to af and way below half i mean it's not close to it's not near the e m f border you know it's it's much i don't know how many cycles it would take to clear that the up but but maybe more than one sure and let me explain to the the two ten year scenario that is it's obviously a projection in i'm sure whenever a new development does come in an interchange drive you're going to look at it you're your traffic engineer your city engineer you're going to look at the development and you're going to determine in the build condition if it can work and what needs to be done you're going to look at all of those as they come online what we tried to do was just show a ten year scenario which we were required to do and we were required to show a two percent growth rate if that growth weight rate were point five percent obviously the level service would not deteriorate as badly so what's going to happen in ten years we don't know out there i know that's something you guys are going to control it's common it's a common for a traffic impact study to project out at least ten years i mean it's not like you know this is a really unusual thing you're being asked to do it depends a lot of members of a lot of studies not require a ten year scenario i know the city they were concerned with just kind of looking at what is going to happen potentially ten years down the road so yes there may need to be you know something that comes down the road could be five years now could be ten years from now it could be twenty years from now if the growth is not experienced like we're showing but we are showing that in our two thousand eight hundred build condition when this site is grand open with the extension of that left turn lane that the site will operate you know in the in the queue will move through the signal during one cycle length and another reason we we did make that driveway right in right out you know so my question that i was asking you and i was leading up to of this was that you would propose if if the traffic did materialize according to your forecast of let's say its worst case if the traffic materialized and you did allow for two left turn lanes at that point did you model that two left turn lanes to make sure that that traffic was accommodated what we did is we modeled additional time to the left or to the interchange drive phase and we were able to get that level service and queue significantly lower i think to a c or d level service that's only with maybe five or six seconds of green time that could be taken from the main line without significantly altering the progression along in forty so in terms of putting in a door left turn lane i mean sure that that would be one hundred percent alleviate any concern issue are you know what that is there is obviously not true receiving lanes there's also not you know the the dual left in place but really are now us as we did take it one step further we did actually attach  some additional if summary sheets showing how many seconds a green time would need to be taken from the mainline in order to get an interchange drive to work i think it was between five to seven seconds i did this is my last question sure did you did your traffic forecast for lincoln avenue for twenty twenty eight did you compare that to the long range transportation plan forecast to traffic for lincoln avenue no we did did not know we we just used again the conservative growth rate of two percent happening and i think robert's done a great job you know it's it's i think pretty unusual in the transportation world to have folks go out ten years i think normally a three to five year projection is more customary from what they would see  and there's a few other things that are somewhat conservative by transportation engineering standards that was done in the in the evaluation so i think that's good i think our third party review or confirm that but certainly there is a concern about traffic and traffic flow and right now there's a unprotected left basically free flowing left for entertains drive i would see the the next iteration could be adjusting signal timing from m four d and keep in mind there's a relocation project was sixty four street and cable drive so there's going to be another signal at the other side of the interchange and the idea being there that everything would be coordinated on both sides of the interchange so that you know you've got quite a traffic flow going through there the next iteration beyond some signal timing changes would be probably an introduction of  protected left there that could greatly impact m forty because those you know from a timing standpoint that takes a significant amount away and it also depends on cross traffic and what happens development lies on the other side of him forty on the east side of i'm forty so so those things are swirling in the mix the other piece of this is and i don't think robert maybe brought this  too much but we're actually required them having them put that sidewalk in an easement such that there is the ability to widen that that intersection there to create another lane should one be needed in the future now i can tell you in talking with the traffic engineers that we're looking at this that do a left there's there's certainly concerns that are probably valid about introducing a do with the truck movement heavy truck movement i don't think that's due to me that's probably the last iteration that we would want to do to this interchange to get things to still function at a reasonable level of service so i think we would you know extending the queue is certainly part of this piece that we're doing an issue really and i think timing and potentially protected left depending on that cross traffic would be the progression of how this interchange would operate trying to visualize those getting to the point prior to the double of it is a protected left as you might a vision here with this intersection look a little bit like the from yeah to me that would be the last iteration that we would that we'd want to introduce there the next one down would be a single protected left depending on cross traffic so if we start getting that cross traffic movement where we can't get that left under free think there's flexibility we spent a lot of time once this revision was was done with the traffic study we spent a fair amount of time in phone conference talking about how this thing would operate in the future and  you know we spent a fair amount of time talking about ok this is you know kind of what it would look like down the road so you know certainly there's q there now already there's there's going to be q there in the future and i don't think anyone should be misled that you know there's not going to be times where you know there's a big queue right there if you've got snowy roads or something like that where you've got trucks trying to get go on you know there may be some traffic that has to wait a signal to wait a cycle to get through but thank you brian and the question for brian think you know between our staff and empty it's a joint operation there at that traffic signal much like way really in chicago driver different signals throughout so so we do have a pretty good relationship with them  d and again with the other signals going in along m forty taking this from a corridor perspective from a traffic flow standpoint i think that's something that you know we'll keep an eye on you know have the ability to monitor of the internal circulation of the site so that it's actually working the way it's being proposed to work other than a park and somebody down there observed no we we would not necessarily do that that may be something that we would ask speedway to do in the future that there are problems and that may come from like a law enforcement standpoint you know if there is some movements there that that you know are legal movement then we would we would probably want to revisit that so it was would end up with cameras out there yeah it's hard to  brian ok thanks this does require a public hearing you know if anybody wants to speak to this issue please come to the microphone state your name and address ahead is it possible to ask the company with the speedway guess station to install video cameras in the areas that were interested in my training i think i don't think cameras extra cameras that monitor certain areas i mean we're watching the approaches were watching the customers fueling the dumpster area the truck parking  you know so you'd be watching the truck fueling area there posted on light poles and so forth so we have pretty good coverage now of the site on video and i'm sure if you wanted to share it it's not like it's anything that could goes on a d v r and it's in the store so the technology is there of course we monitor it i think it's far as the trucks coming in the wrong way it would speedway would be on that truck driver because somebody's coming in the wrong way and it can just the whole site i kind of know what you're saying parking if they think it's easier to park they'll come in the wrong way we do have science and science saying it's an x that we have it on the canopy that tells them this is where you come in at and the other side is exit only do not enter the approaches are marked also by signs to make sure the trucks flow the right way because if they come in the wrong way they're gonna screw up traffic for operations can monitor and corporate can monitor it so it's it's there i'm sure it's not a matter i mean lots of times in an issue with the police department they're told to put on a d v r or put on a d v d and given  looking at a council person or a motion general you want to handle the election process or actually that would be something more than what you all would handle basically we would start with getting  i know tim and i appreciate your confidence  ok sorry so short term rental pilot program let me get this hope here quickly so this is coming back to the planning commission upon their your request to propose or to have a packet of information to have the non owner occupied residential short term last last month study session is from fairbanks to collin park and north two from ninth street down south to fourteenth and then also  all of their residential zone districts west of dikembe a row the motion would be for the overlay to be entered section thirty nine dash three four four again it would highlight the overlay district boundary make a maximum of twenty five short term rental units within the overlay zone district five hundred separation distance between each term rental unit and i'm just looking at iran to see if he wants to add anything here  sure the question was raised during the study session as to whether this five hundred foot separation distance would apply to two short term rentals in a commercial zone district and if you're just taking a locating a short term rental in the commercials on district i would say no it does not apply to that because this is referring to the overlay zone district but because the five hundred foot separation here just says each short term rental and item three i think as worded if someone were to want to locate a short term rental in the overlay district within five hundred feet of one that's in the commercial district they could not and the way you could change that is use the language that's at the end a section to tack on within the overlays zone district to the end of three just like in two if you want that if you don't want to change that result then we leave it as is and so the regulations would still be in chapter fourteen housing and the pilot program would be for two year so this is what would actually be adapted and a recommendation sent to the city council either way people think about having been with them back thank you within the overall his own district to the end of number three seems to me that's a reasonable thing you'll still have a reduction in density right across the line and those are put in situations so i don't necessarily have an issue with those but it would take a stand on that one the not the pilot program that they approved it for the other the other sections so they actually didn't are not recommending approval of the of the overl right during our study session i i raise the question about whether that five hundred foot separation was sufficient for the majority of city blocks in these two districts and  have the practical effect of having a five hundred foot separation if we were to extend it to six hundred foot it would have a practical effect of probably limiting one of these to one per block where on longer blocks leave in the way it is a five hundred it would it allows at least for two and so i'm just wondering if there's any support to move this to change this to six hundred feet as opposed to five hundred feet for those reasons i would also keep in mind that the short distance of the bark is three hundred thirty the short right so that if you start getting that number moving up not only  be just want to think about one thing i guess having worked in the downtown area yeah there's no i don't know for the locks up in suburbia up there right the five hundred feet doesn't worry me because it would be the two corner houses that's the only time that would happen on appreciate having i was a part of that i'm going to try to make it part of that and whoever seconds it then can add to it but i move that we so established the overlay district for short term rentals the reason for those districts is because the major features of what caused people to use short term mental is or are newness to the water in the fact that people want to be near downtown so they can walk to the shopping district you want to limit it to five hundred feet so that we don't have blocks of all short term rentals we want to have twenty five units as  more but just maybe clarify it too is the purpose of doing a pilot program is so you could study the impact on neighborhoods either impact or lack of impact on neighborhoods and i i think that's intended there but i think should make sure if that's part of your motion we should include that in minutes that would make them put their support for mr good walks in motion all supported supported by leo think any more conversation us there's anyone here to speak to this matter come on down state your name and address and i don't know if anybody's running the timer but you have five minutes so i'll make the most of it if you like going once twice three times we're going to close the public hearing and the other conversation or want to go for a vote madam mayor the neighborhood improvement committee voted down an overlay district that is correct is that that was the only problem that they don't agree with having an overlay district or they don't agree with having short term rental experiment at all they did not feel that it was their purview to set up a  short term rental pilot program within the their residential district so they were against the idea of it more so than the overlay it had been presented to them previously as the the full residential districts as it was presented to you as well and all the and they tabled that and then came back in and did not approve over all or just the overly district they only voted on the overlay districts however the consensus was and marvin you might want to speak more to the since you were on the committee  but the consensus really was that they didn't feel that this was something that was under their purview to to adopt so they were generally in agreement i think it's also good for us to watch the effect on the schools for each of the homes that turns over to nine owner occupied the effect on the cost of the  police services and i think it has the surveying of neighborhoods has to be have dealt very carefully anonymously and so that no one so that people in the city and they very much thought that introducing investment own short term rentals was going to be directly moving against that whole mission that they freed for see themselves  working to help moved down the road so that was one of the prior the big sticking points that they had to so it just kind of logistically i want to make it clear that while that didn't move forward or that council can can take that understand that and it's still one of the situations that council can can move forward with that if they want to or or not so so it's not like because they they voted against it it's just a dead issue and nothing is going to the city council's thank you right well i think we're stalled this on long enough no no we have a no we haven't i just wanted one with i think that's something important to add to the study of its impact on neighborhoods is what's happening to the prices of homes in that area with this possibility  know i just section fourteen which we cannot deal with has a variety of what i would call operating regulations on them and also in that has some  issues with x amount of this they get their license paul i don't know that we definitely want to speak to that but there will be that kind of monitoring going on for what i would say would be the behavioral side of short term  rentals monitoring for the schools i think is pretty obvious that you don't have a family with kids living there full time they don't send kids to school that's over many dollars a student we don't get it and obviously it takes a house out of the pool for people to put julie by so while i think that as a pilot program i have a hard time imagining it when you get to the end of this based on the criteria that has not been established  for her to see if it works or doesn't work council probably well so that's my thought and i'm going to call for a vote all those in favor of mr democracy in motion he made it right when thinking ok actually colombo i mean and i know the date is the thirty first of twenty nineteen which is really not going to be two years by the time this gets through the different levels so are we going to say two years from the date it passes if such is the case at the council level or do we stay with the date that's based on considering it last fall yeah that would be something that the council would want to to determine the date generally it is twenty one days after the council of dads an amendment but it would go into fact however that that language could definitely be clarified by council or a recommendation can be made here by planning commission as well and just one more thing that if you want that what you just  introduced about the school men and other monitoring type issues that and perhaps we should also add them to to the motion as well or leave them to council to to work through those specific acts so in order to go and also in let's back up what i can't remember now it's been a while ago when this motion was made did we add to three  within the overlays own district as part of the motion itself ok and mrs roberts if somebody wanted to amend mr de walks motion with they do that now or would you you spoke of as an amendment the monitoring or the everyone you talk to the date i wasn't taking notes and i self i try to remember i don't think we're going to deal with the birds also like ok you know all right so i move to approve what's proposed by the planning staff and we would like to monitor what happens with the affordability of homes and in that area what happens to the housing prices what happens to the enrollment impact for the schools what's happening with the use of public safety people that well address the date being two years from when it's passed at the council level if that's what happens and that the neighbors should be confidentially approached about how this change has affected the livability that i think would be a difficulty and that is changing the date for review because that's in the the chapter fourteen provisions i think it would be appropriate maybe to make that suggestion to council in chapter fourteen amendments come to there because we would want to adapt to different dates for review and i guess that i'll take the date out ok how do you feel about that and then you did a motion to see was that second if it was just ok in the end then you need to have vote on the motion to amend and then if it's approved then you vote on the amended motion all those in favor of the mayor's amended motion clear on the record sorry we would like to vote they use original motions as amended by the mayor all those in favor signify by saying i and education and our two year and districts thirty nine sixty two we have a proposed amendment that's generated by the city attorney's office a couple years ago planning commission recommended in council adopted a regulation that that prohibited the parking of more than six vehicles on residential properties in the r t r an area of the central business scuse me central neighborhood area over my area in the course of pursuing enforcement of that section of the circuit court for our old county have held their ordinance the property owner appealed and the court of appeals has sent the decision back to the circuit court for a new decision a new hearing new decision on this with concerns about whether it violates two things one is whether it's supports the regulation supports or promotes legitimate government interest and secondly whether it violates equal protection treatment required by the constitution the legitimate government purpose issue we included a little bit clearer language i think in section a thirty nine sixty two to two to describe the purpose of the ordinance but presumptive by describing your purpose but the staff and i come up with that language as proposed purpose secondly we've indicated clearly that this applies to the eve district as well the central neighborhood district over area straddles the boundary between the r t r and the district and one of the concerns the court of appeals had was that we applied this to only a part of that overlay area and so this ordinance would would clean that up and apply it to the entire overlay area it also moves a regulation from thirty nine to eighty four into a separate section thirty nine sixty two again because it applies to two different zone districts rather than one one two three roger going to close the public hearing looking for a motion or conversation so fences were many of our amendments were actually approved at last last month's meeting however in the interim we did speak a little bit more with our it allows for six foot fences in through lots of the property line that's designated as the rear yard which is in definitions in the definition of the and we took note during the study session though the should still be in a motion to to further designate this that it's twenty feet on the side lying on the sides of the lot motion as well would be appreciate o i'm looking for a motion we need to incorporate some things with that motion to clean up some items so do we have one i move that we approve the fence maximum length of sixteen feet or fifteen feet i would say sixteen feet are considered landscaping and not a fence that's the first correction the second correction is to the diagram at the back where the clear vision area the two sides of the triangle need to be identified as the twenty foot minimum length and not the  challenge the town sign ordinance as being content based on unconstitutional regulation of speech and this has led to the country looking at their sign ordinances and making sure that we're regulating based on and use and on where the site is actually located rather than on what the sign itself sat's the content of the sign so staff went through this along with our attorney vince duckworth to make sure that that indeed we were following those provisions and in doing so we also worked on making the sign ordinance much more user friendly and using just briefly to explain and also adding a chart that that describes the regulations for  point they're taking so while you know they're still certainly there are still some areas that could be viewed as content based in our ordinance we believe and are defensible to the extent that they relate to  areas that we can defend it's the supreme court decision and we know we're we're happy with the result that we we have here we understand who looks a lot different is not going to be that the distinctions based  great and one thing to add is that we did include a purpose right in the beginning to to make that more justifiable to make our regulation differentiations more justifiable if they do go to court if they are a challenge to explain why we want the balance why it's important that in streets that are more narrow that have lesser speed limits for instance where smaller signage would be more more appropriate than larger signage in terms of the character and balancing that is w our discussion of short term rentals how we staff has work to go through section thirty nine dash two which is our definition section of the zoning ordinance and to make sure that our to my attention that that's actually misspelled so that would be in the amendment to change or i'm sorry in the motion to change these spelling of screening please i apologize for  that and again the short term rental definitions of owner occupied land owner occupied and tulip time and this is what has already been approved by council referring to the pilot program and then we go through the sign definitions throughout it's and oh and there was one that was oh did we decide to keep the balloon definition ok so we go through all of the different types of scions and again this is in section thirty nine dash two definitions in the through further review staff is proposing that we not allow that because eighty use in short term rentals are both special property uses and we believe that we are proposing that  that one only one special property you should be allowed on the property also we find that the purpose of eighty use initially was to have you know for granny flats to have relatives stay close by and then it is evolved into the need for more affordable and long term housing and that the short term rental would not actually  be beneficial to them but we also did propose that once if the short term rental program becomes more  more aged with time that this is something that we can come back to in the future thank you well this city is going through a process of reworking the whole ordinance code and the first step is to have the general code folks go through and identify places where they think there's conflicts between sections or ambiguity s and to ask the city to look at whether to correct those staffers looked at the zoning ordinance sections which are in this proposal here and made suggestions to our office to make changes we've made the changes there the places where the changes are at or highlighted in yellow and once before you there's a few wording changes here and there but by and large the changes are correcting references to statute numbers that have been changed or to other ordinance sections that have been changed in number over the years that happens over many years as well as references to fees we used to set fees in the ordinance itself and we found out that it works much better to adapt  a a one resolution approach where all the fees are listed in that each year so we've changed the references to their feet resolution i pretty much sums these up glad to answer any questions really describes housekeeping some communications from staff yes we need to get a representative to the neighborhood improvement committee we have actually had three volunteers for th from our commission and i'm sorry that number is two and those would be from dave's a block and from the leo all i'm sorry was how do you yeah i knew i need help with that is so the so it's really up to you all as to how you want to work through  that whether or not leo or dave you would like to send you can do it as a vote if you would like you can and i would like some leo i just followed you because i knew you were looking for ok and then there was one