honour's michael pollan the half mr harold lewis not i don't think a difficult legal issue that we're talking amount but i think the hard part here is the factual significance of what happened at the trial court ranspired on april twentieth but the way the evidence came out is that at least we tried proving that in the government brought up in this case and cheap initial acquisition of a firearm by mr lucas and our and it wasn't until the evening of april twentieth an hour before a plane was allowed to live or was going to leave that they bought a ticket to portland from reno and then hastily virgil harrell packed this  was some of the dealer place the stuff and harold didn't have any idea that that weapon was in there when he got to the airport and logically i make sense because he tried to hide the fact that that was his bag and i don't believe anybody in this were presented by the government because they put on a lot of information case and cheap the acquisition of the gun and in fact they argue that the acquisition was well legal what they know they didn't they in fact what happened at the argument that the government told the jury that lewis was not allowed to have a firearm under any circumstances and he knew that and that's the problem that comes up here once the government argues that because the  under the kassam in cases like that that can extend as far as seven months then the jury asked a question about that they sent a note that didn't eventually get answered by the judge because no one could understand how they needed gun from mr bode at the time to keep him from committing suicide that was a no win position so in case now the jurors went with this idea well he knew it was he got from this guy did that on purpose and if heat that wasn't justified was a two prong defense and they were both necessary for the jury to have a complete legal understanding of how they analyzed the fastest which with the jury having found her guilty on the boarding the airplane charge find that he knew it was in a bag because he had illegally acquired it the first time and that that's what directed their particular decision in this case or not and i think that's the the crux of the problem is the government told him he was not justified in ever having a gun and i believe they used to think under any circumstance which is which in fact could set out and we now have no way to respond to that because the judge would instruct let's suppose i'm still trying to understand if time intervenes and he couldn't keep the gun in his possession was see i mean even the necessity defense wouldn't allow him to keep the gun in his possession more than necessary to take it away and now was that was our that was our defense that in fact there mr lewis taken a gun from a suicidal person within a matter of literature one night and might have been an arguable situation but that's not what we have here we have a time break we have a break in the chain of custody of the weapon if you will when you brea says to tell starts out by telling the jury would not be appropriate in this case to decide if you give the defendant some kind of a break here because you think he stepped through the plate did the right thing with your very to this poor mr bogan his emotional and psychological problems that certainly is commendable admirable but it doesn't really have anything to do with this case if you think about it because we've got a time frame given this kind of a case we've got a huge period of time here where if in fact and you've got to think about the facts here because mr boag did not testify in any way about having had a gun taken away from him by the defendant he starts to argue the merits of that story and there's an objection and the judge says i'm going to steer you away from it and so mr white comes back and says the only evidence in the record here about the acquisition of the gun came out of special agent communities interview of the defendant pro twenty four of where the defendant advise agent keeney the bug had given the gun to lewis because he had recently gotten released from jail after being convicted of spousal abuse or something like that no discussion about suicide he goes on off so what's the government at that point making an issue of the credibility of the acquisition i believe what mr white was trying to get across to the well there's no question no argument what was in the bag it came down to whether he knew or not a question to be decided by the jury and i think one thing that's of interest here when he was asked what was in the back he said maybe some b i'm drawing a blank judge i don't just i just don't recall i looked at the transcript and i know it was going back and forth and i was looking at the facts that i know that the defense was given a sinking a rough time for a lack of notes and they were trying to develop their and given the fact that it had to be knowledge we believe that the instructions were clearly given the jury was properly charged and if there was any error an argument it's harmless especially when jurors are instruct and what the cross for it was and i think it was you know the judge had i don't remember exactly but i believe that the government produced that as part of agent keane's testimony and you know to tell you the