what they're supposed to be doing here i don't see anybody here except the ones that really care what i guess i'll close this out are you saying that i'm disappointed obviously it's not very important  sustainable growth was not there to discuss their side of the story and we weren't allowed to talk to a whack or in any other and you could say that we just heard one side of the story and they offered us to come in and testify so they  strengthen the commute plans that we can no i don't think that i don't think that we should take the laws and put them all of our community plans so that's the nitty gritty of it that's the thing that my number one concern was that the community plan should be should be the end of should have the final say on what goes on in our community so i think the whole little tweak where they f the in town it said this week's domestic violence on the pay attention that those are great cheap ways to tell the community what's going on and i think if you guys were to you know this is just a suggestion if you guys were to go out and you know get one of of september twenty eighth two thousand and sixteen meeting ok so i'm going to go according to the i'm just looking at approval that the september twenty eighth two thousand and sixteen meeting commissioners any discussion i think would like you to repeat and i'm sorry i didn't hear what you said still to approve this september twenty eighth two thousand and sixteen meeting minutes and discussion commissioners came all in favor of the motion raise your hand as oppose point you revised statutes by the commissioners present to the testimony of presentations received at october nineteenth two thousand and sixteen five thirty p m scheduled lead which meeting was canceled due to lack of commission if you want to put out that summary for the october team meeting and again this was we did not have forum at that time did take public testimony go ahead and move to item x which is our finish business and item number white mr williams spends transmitting a proposed bill i'm a detractor ninety eight point zero four of the molly county code that would area requirements and would allow commercial and noncommercial tell me for talk your feet are their temporary commercial events in all the many districts under certain restrictions and standards and there was an opportunity for public per week we can enforce it through ninety five ten so it doesn't give this doesn't give carte blanche to do it says this is the standards for a video shoot if you don't meet those standards then it's not permitted the church farmer's market the school rummage sale all over commercial technically commercial activities but they're temporary someone asked like well how can you do that  a lot of times that there are a lot as you know we consider them to be assessor to the permitted use on the property and this would allow us to make it clear that yeah it's not it's it's not a real commercial providing food they would still have to go all those necessary routes anyone out submissions provide public testimony asking questions all right will go ahead and cause public  commissions again many many other questions for joe and a discussion it not aware that i can say something to brag about business currently before us or anticipated to come before us if we do not try to convince it sounds kind of serious when it say investigators so are you going out investigating something pertaining to an application in front of a series of moral issues amongst the commission that usually  so that is separate from a field trip which we have done on a number of occasions where the entire commission all of us went and actually had a meeting at the site of field trip by at the solar instance when the c way is drafting our recent community plan planning commission members wanted to go and be informed and am i correct in assuming you dinners long as you know we didn't sit there and hot oh and and even give the appearance of having our own little meeting that we are allowed to attend  us although we don't know it at that point but it's open to the community we're all community members so at that point you're saying that only four of us could attend and i think if you know if it's if you don't if you don't really know if it's going to be worth this or not and use your judgment ok but it when we know that it will be on our agenda we're going to be reviewing that application that's when having just four  what if somebody works for a company and why is i strongly encouraged by the company to come and testify but yet they are planning commission they me and you know it then i would consider that to be poor business like a coming for business but if it's just where joel you know projects that may have been or here's our overall plans but it's not specific you know informational mediums in our community that you know majority of us who sit on the commission want to or ten not is part of we you know wearing our a commission hat but just there is as residents and so limited when w question i mean is there room and the reason i ask is i think at our last meeting when the mare was here i mean it was but he basically said something to the degree of you guys you know don't have to be here you don't have to help us and so on which kind of threw me off but so i'm wondering is there something within of several meetings and you provided us with some valuable information at a time when ashley hardy chose to recuse himself because he worked he would have had a financial interest in that of sorts and i think somebody else did to so that was really  discussing with chronic conditions is the easiest example and one of the things that i would try there were my ideas on the record put your reasons for about the condition what are the effects if you're addressing those things i just had quite finished and it wasn't really brought up in here but given that this is a orientation workshop i mean just when you're in art was it chris features are there rules about attendance or be asked to resign because we've had as long as i've been we've had a few who showed up was the entire time and never you know it didn't seem like anyone did anything about it and you know instead of having someone who could you know actively make meetings we just had this it was a fill spot but pretty much  ask any question right no closing public testimony thank you very much we're going to move to the next agenda item which is kind of a trend that's the director's report starting with the number one open on a applications report not much in the near future to go before the commission i was down there recently and there was one there most likely a whiz in it was really really close is it was a brand new place and i don't remember anything coming for if i if that was my house and i was building it what i have already had that determination made or what i tried maybe just to get away with it man because we can click on so is that something like if you know we as commissioners or someone in the community observed we could bring it to your attention i mean obviously we don't have a team cain number of actors but the applicant was asking for from another that was kept as a review and i could be wrong i thought the regional request didn't specify how many for each location that just said how many in total are on th center change i think it's policies for parties and what not and any comments discussion regarding agenda items for the december twenty first meeting i'm sure i was wondering if that would be a good opportunity to continue the very