what were is before this court for review and it is simply whether or not a conversion claims properly played through our houses and the arguments you need for you there are several allegations made that the bank is the attorneys to do possession of the property three that you were deprived of that right by the authorizing wrongful sumption of control or possession only property and for that a time the demand was made for the return of the property and here has judge ever take personal property what happened in this case is we obtain a right connection property of the real property the order didn't say you have the right to possession the real property but don't touch the couch that was left behind you have to leave that alone now sutton district looked at this very issue in the context of the negligence action and the court in that case stated several jurisdictions that held the landlord assumes no duty to care for the personal property of former tendons left behind when the see certainly we would have to track down that person to find t or sure the key here would have to leave it on you you know living room table that we brought in until the person comes and claims at that point we have the right long time or was making for a long time and it was common experience for a lender to find broken dilapidated or otherwise worthless furniture tools or women apparently banned by former off same situation and ensure that we know anytime that there's a division a simply took control of the real property they also can't clean the fourth prong of conversion and that's that the time the demand was me counsel said well i you know he's the owner of the property and he made the demand enable in october well at that april in october of two thousand or so the first demand was made in equal two thousand and one that was three months after new order desertion and that was sixty days after my client actually took possession at that point a demand is finally need and we cited he saw where you can't have a conversion action if the person allegedly converting the property didn't have possession of the property at the time demands made and certainly here to contract with manage alone machinery would not have known that there was some sort of a company's database of thousands of employees stored in problems again i think it's important are there any assumptions made house there's no guarantee that a separate wholly separate company and another company's foreclosing would have somehow communicated that knowledge but again that's irrelevant because the judge and the foreclosure judgment is not next month she moves out of town news leaving no forwarding address and a little bit of office with a computer that she apparently believes is somewhere between a half a million dollar to one point one million dollars no wri e off the guy just looking at this at face value what did she was going to happen with that office furniture and that computer she left town without a forwarding address and stop making payments on her mortgage where i come from we call that giving it back to the bank and that's just what happened here she abandoned the home she abandoned the mortgage she abandoned the personal property within so when concer with was restricted as we can't even no not in a case like this no the road is there is no duty to abandon to to maintain that property or protective for him they have walked away from the property in the building interferes with possession of the property if they left an old sofa morphemes sofa in there we have to get the sofa out of there otherwise the home is valueless because nobody's going to buy  and take any third parties property and you would be wrong so she visited there have to protect it's actually a two step process your honor there's a foreclosure on the mortgage that is followed by a court we're giving you right to possession of the property at that point yes your honor just take all your property vet raises an entirely different point your honor and because this is happening quite a bit in chicago where would you do with these tenants who had nothing to do with the mortgage on the property that is a little bit different and i would i would suggest that it's completely distinguishable from the pieces and were never made actually had the mortgage she's the one that didn't pay she's the one that abandon the property and walk away from the i think it's important to know that the the moment the order of possession comes through and that's separate from the world foreclosure when the given rights to the bank at that point yes your honor any material any property left in there is interfering with the bank's right of possession they're going to try and sold that building they have no room no duty to rent a storage unit and you're already if they did think of the possibilities there it may cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to store this property and home all should they do it actually do it for five years or ten maybe fifteen years waiting for this person to walk away on their mortgage not leaving a forwarding address maybe they will call and i would like to just go maybe one thing last point is that the entire case against my laws the judge entered them he saw a service by publication and entered those orders now we have no choice but to presume that those words are valid and lest they attack them directly they over a year before that request was made sure he she left the material with you know we know that in the house when she left it after three months if i have a million dollars million dollars worth of property sitting in that