against your word is the degree of success applying hensley a panel of this court in a previous appeal how the district court erred initial determination by not considering success we're back with for this court today back and fix and had the wrong number he didn't have to go back and recalculate because you've already done that he only was saying to you saying to us now as i've gone back i looked at it again and i still think that the brazilian objection is separable and that's what he said he did say he thinks th e brazilian objection is the real goal but he did so based on that different legal arguments made by keynes his opinion does not take into account the enervated as a pain does work on all that the objection or the comment facts and the pen out the court involve any review that wing entries are anything like that which the other objections obviously involve and then you said to find a case that says that it should be for costs for those attorneys which is a pretty i think straightforward we will use find the case so all these other things that relate to the other objections of looking at the time sheets which is obviously very time intensive thing have no application to the brazilian objection well your honor i think if you look at the way that one approaches an objection that's it's a little bit different you know we didn't i didn't know prior to this objection for example that for an attorney contract time was not permissibly compensated and so it took legal research a holistic approach to legal research as to whether this eight hundred case the mission was legally proper to find that argument and to figure out that you know there are these attorneys with different qualifications because that exhibit was in one place and this giant's admission and then their hours and l making objections to fees and try to raise issues with respect and trees in particular this is an overall objection to whether or not given that lack of a pro had each a status they could be compensated at other than cost well sub part of that argument and the broader contract attorney at cost argument are interrelated and therefore all of that work can be compensated but this or court didn't acknowledge that argument the wholistic our argument that all contract attorneys should be built at cost and you know i think that under the this court's remained order it was instructed to do so i also want to point out that there was another order by the district by the district court as well and that was in its discounting the all inclusive time the district court didn't give any reasons whatsoever for excluding two of the attorneys all inclusive time and it relied on improper factors for discounting the mother a it looked at two things and looked at whether or not st of all the brazilian issue is several from the overall the us contract attorney issue it held the clearly was you you clearly the kind of the they mean they mean specific discrete items that were necessary in order to get to the to appeal or an objection rather in the st place and and ted frank you know devising counsel for twenty seven point six hours is not necessary to maintain the appeal it may be it may have been counsel may may may argue that it is useful argue that advance the ball for their appeal that that may be middleby but it was unnecessary it was an all inclusive c that they raise on appeal and so they've got basically eighteen hours they can really segregate per issue and then the rest of the two hundred and thirty seven hours behold are really a question mark and then the criticism comes in just like of well you didn't do a better job  recall when it was impossible to parse you simply do not have a record that allows judge recall to make the analysis and i miss it john asked for and so if there were so if there if there were hours or billable clearly billable to verses has a really were just in furtherance of arguments i actually find looking at missing john you know missing her papers that she says that eleven hours were attributable to the certification the class only district court's analysis and decision that simply are not supported by the opinion itself there was no finding that the hours were a jumble or that any hours right reasonable and at the district court you know one had assistance with the very clearly marked a substantial part of the brief i would say that woman's nature versus another minor when they both were major objections and i also want to go back to the court's consideration of the forty six million dollar benefit created by he's now the original the award by the district court was based on the number of pages that argument because of a brief that was the kind of mathematical being counting that hensley rejects and a panel of this court recognized that by record every man please consider the degree of success because we don't see if you did that here and so i don't think it's accurate to say that the eleven thousand dollars initial determination took that forty six million dollars benefit into account when the district court expressly relied on the number of pages in the objection filed b you very much to both of you will reserve that decision thank you