are you going to revise your plan yes the plan was revised those you should have it in front of you the shed was reduced from a size a ten by twelve to eight by ten and a lot sizes eighty upon it to construct a dormer off the existing finished attic bedroom space when i purchased this house in october i did not know at that time they do that the topography of the land i would be unable to expand the bedroom space on the third floor i lived across the street for nine years and i've lived in belmont for twenty five i've seen many many dorm rooms but i didn't know because of the topography of the land that i would need to get a special permit for this i just want to expand the existing finish bedroom space my architect wanted me to add a second story to the kitchen addition which i am putting on in the bath and i refused to do so because it would certainly have been detrimental to the neighborhood so i suggested the dormer knowing it wouldn't provide nearly the same space but it would maintain the integrity of the neighborhood and essence i just want to renew the space that already exists i have twenty three signatures from the neighborhood approving the space including my neighbors immediately adjacent to the property and the neighbor directly behind me i would like to he enjoyed a map if you don't think you showing the  showing the green circles of support from the neighborhood my house is circled in red and mrs valiance house is circled in red as well she is the one opposing neighbor i just want you to be able to see the distance between our homes she does live a street away and she cannot see my house from her house she mentioned in her opposition letter that she opposes this project because belmont is becoming a home to make mansions  her house is twenty eight hundred eighty four square feet in minus twenty seven hundred sixty five square feet and i am adding my kitchen to the back of the house i am putting a square kitchen in the backyard but by no means do i think that this is a mcmansion it's just a straight senate entrance colonial i have three daughters which i've been raising alone since my husband passed away suddenly six years ago this neighborhood has been my support system that's why i sold the house across the street and bought this smaller house my old house my previous house was on a thirty thousand square foot lot this is on a twelve thousand square foot lot it'll be much easier for me to maintain and the reason i bring that to your attention is because mrs valiant made the point that i have asked many neighbors if they were willing to sell their house at some point because i needed to downsize and for me this lot of land is a lot easier to maintain this a space is just much needed bedroom space for me my three girls in my eighty nine year old mother who is waiting to move in with us i also had requested the second permit to place the deck studios to the right of the house i want to rescind that request tonight i do not want to do that any longer i don't need that so if you don't mind and i have a written statement if you'd like to rescind that second permit please know that i have every intention of beautifying this house it was in total disrepair when i bought it i'm bringing it back to its original condition and i know that my neighbors support this project because they know that the repairing a will of this home will be a welcome asset to their neighborhood i have always taken care of my property even in the most difficult of yes it was a set back a five foot set back from the house that i was asking for to place the deck stairs because i don't need a special permit to put the deck off the kitchen so it was the deck stairs that i will not why you are putting this there is there i don't need to do that and i didn't want to ask you for two for too much i it's so important to me to have that extra bedroom with the size of my family that i i just want to be clear nothing is going to change the menu still the same the food still the same equipment the same everything is the same the food the hours of operation and all of that would be the same the only things going to change is one person taken over who is the percent to process what your background restaurant oh my god a long time since two thousand and one i did food and beverage management to hotels starbucks bunking down at restaurants hello i would just like to say that i've known rashid now for a little over ten years and i met him while he was running the starbucks at the barnes and noble in prevention center and what caught my eye was his charisma and his ability to run and don't know if anybody's been in that starbucks but the line goes out the door and i was just a little retail girl trying to get my coffee in a now and he was charismatic and knew how to make my complicated coffee order and i think this town is lucky to have  triangular element to the rear of the house to extend expand what is now a very cozy kitchen the addition  does not extend further into setbacks and it basically extends the rear by two feet and making the thirty eight square feet immediate neighbors those are the immediate neighbors who would actually have visual contact with the  house and so the only way so there were two two birds kill one stone to get in if you would have to cut an angle because a car has to turn a corner to get into the garage bay the second reason is that the angled addition of a louse continuity of counter and one of the big problems in this is counter space and so instead of discontinuous counter you're able to continue the counter top along that angle so for both reasons that's why you get this angular shape good evening members of the board josef known for the applicant susan and paul sha mr mrs shah seek to take down an existing garage and replace it with a new structure the existing garage is not attached to the house their property is somewhat unique thirty three pine her slaying  a but both pinehurst and day school lane so we have a situation where literal compliance with the by law is impossible because there is technically no rear to the property because it abuts to two streets so the compliance with section four point three five c two is an impossibility so that's why we're here for the this special permit in this situation the the garage is going to go in roughly the same location as the existing garage but be extended it's going to be a forty by fourteen foot garage five hundred square five hundred sixty square feet that the house is not traditional in the way it situated on the lot the front of the house does not face the front door the house does not face pinehurst the front of the house as you're looking at the house from pinehurst lane is just to the left so it's a little bit odd in that regard the board may be asking why not put the garage over on the if you're looking at the house from pine on the left hand side of the house that can't be done because of the the the the soil and the topography there it's all ledge and there's a five foot incline which would require a separate curve cut so typically where we have an accessory structure such as a garage the side setback requirement is only five feet so in this situation because of the the uniqueness of the property abutting both day and i believe i submitted to r us some photographs both of where the existing dariush is located as you'll see you know it's heavily vegetated on that side of the property i also submitted photographs late last week that depict the other side of the property the kind of show the ledge and in possibility room we'd like a two car garage there's not enough room to put them side by side so the reason for the length is to put two car which totally reclaim relocate the garage is currently here we'd like to replace it bigger here that would suggest it moving it totally to the other side of the property that's all i'm not saying  craig i would you know just add that you know if there were a ledge there more likely than not the garage would have been built on that side when the house was constructed and i think it's reasonable to assume and we represent present wireless we have an existing facility at one twenty five trip pellow road and the roof needs maintenance and repairs i'm not sure the exact extent of what is needed but that maintenance requires us to decommission our site and remove our equipment temporarily so to do that and still keep the network functional and to provide service to this area we use what is called a cell on wheels or cow which is just a truck like a regular moving truck with an intent to on it and we park that temporarily where we can find space in order to continue to provide service in this case we don't anticipate it to be needed for a very long time our maximum agreement with the church that owns the property is for three months however in reality it's likely that we would be there closer to ten days to fourteen days but we don't know which ten or fourteen days because our schedules very much dependent upon the town issuing the building permits for the roof work and then the contractors doing the roof work over which we don't have control so you know the reason our application is a little bit strange is that when we first interpreted the bylaw it seemed to us that this really wouldn't qualify as a wireless communication facility because it's it's not a structure it's a truck it's on wheels and it's temporary  but you know again i can i can see the interpretation the other way very clearly the via law doesn't contemplate this exact thing not many do and i do this in a lot of places so i understand it but that's why we  presented the application as either a determination that a special permit is not required or to grant the special permit we had initially requested a determination we didn't get one then we were told we only needed an electrical permit which we obtained that was sometime ago but at this point rather than sort of hold up the whole process we figured we would just go through this process it's my understanding that the building permit for the roof work is being held up based with whatever time it takes for the roof or to be done we anticipate it like i said probably ten to fourteen days and we're not going to keep this up longer than we needed up we this doesn't help us we don't like doing this this is all we can do to keep the service going but as i said we just don't know exactly which ten to fourteen days it would be so we have to build in a little bit of a cushion there but we don't have any intention of keeping this up any longer than absolutely necessary and for obvious reasons we have a facility that works in our network and it just has to be temporarily down to complete the maiden's meet the special permit well if you look at the special  which we're not doing we're not really building a structure of any kind the remainder of the requirements as we set forth in the written materials basically are trying to address whether this is the best way to do with the least impactful way to do it what we have here is pretty much the only location that this can be done if you're familiar with this neighborhood of belmont which i assume members of the board more familiar than i am but  i drove around there a couple of hours ago to refresh my memory there simply aren't any parking lots with any space we had spoken with the church and if you've been to the church their parking lots quite tight actually and they need the space for parking in a parking lot  for so there really aren't better ways to do this that are less impactful to the community and again this is a very temporary thing it provides a tremendous benefit to the community i mean the service that we provide  house so it's adjacent to the church not one and we do hundreds of these we do them for the boston marathon we do them for all kinds of events i remember helping the maine state police put up six of these on short notice for a manhunt for a fugitive in i know that we obtained an electrical permit so that i have to assume between the electrical inspector and the electrical code it was done properly it's not an area of expertise for me so i'm sorry i don't have the answer but i typically rely on the electrical have to be doing some pretty severe vandalism before they can get to that point if you've ever asked someone if something is possible and they give you an answer other than yes they're lying to three three yeah it seems like a huge what it is this isn't a direct replacement i mean again this is a temporary solution during construction it's not  ideal it's the best we can do and again that sort of reiterates the reason we would not keep this going any longer than we need to the actual engineer design site that we currently use is of course our preference well that's your position through some of the software what three months is what we negotiated with the property owner as the maximum they would allow us to be there and like i said we don't need it to be for three months but we don't know which time slot we're going to need it so we need sort of a window of opportunity i would be completely happy with a condition that said we can only have this in place for as long as we need close it's about three hundred feet it's the exact same altitude essentially it's lower off the ground in the existing facility but the existing facility of the taller building so it ends up that they're both at that police department fire department have expressed to us they do not want that i mean there are other possibilities but it seems to me like something that's a little bit minor and while i can understand that a commercial vehicle is possibly not allowed in this particular zone this is not being parked there as part of the residence as part of work being done so i mean certainly if construction is happening in this is own a commercial vehicle will be parked there i can't imagine how else you would accomplish that but you know the point of it is there are a lot of ways to split hairs on it but the bottom line is the bylaws did not contemplate this and give us a clear cut answer as to what you do in this situation we're here deferring to the board to tell you what we're doing and to figure out how to do it i think we call a fiat under a couple different criteria depending on how you want to argue it whether permit  not is needed if it is needed i think we satisfy the special permit criteria as set forth in the application so when the representative arising came to us several months ago it was one rear like mister but like you pointed out were probably had the best elevation or the nearest to close to the coalition for the building and because it also supports emergency services from the church's point of view and made sense to support this as a community part of the community and that was our going in position that a rising needed support for emergency services we wanted to be there to help that knowing that there would be a permit process going through here was also understanding that the arising of representatives would be going through the permit process so everything would be the purpose i assumed of the public hearing that was about a week less than a week ago why we don't know what the time scale was when this process started almost iran months ago we had no idea when it was going to occur and and  knowing that the of arisan responsible for the permanent process we just kind of stood back and let it happen you know maybe in retrospect that was a bad idea but  understood yeah but we knew it was temporary and we knew it was going to support emergency services we didn't think it was because the very temporary nature of it maybe that was the assumption that it was going to be a problem sorry duration it may be that the roof repairs being done under our equipment are more significant and we have to go off air for a longer amount of time i am sorry but i can't really speak intelligently as to what their intentions are  my experience is though that we we really don't like to go off air we have a service that people depend on that's the business we're in so it's pretty important to keep it up and running so we don't cover all of the frequencies with the temporary facility the power output is going to be pretty similar in terms of common perceptions of that we look at the power output output of these facilities you're usually at about one one hundredth of a percent of the threshold that the f c c gives us for what is deemed allowable whether that fluctuates you know a few hundredths one way or another it's sort of an academic exercise at that point for practical purposes it's the same of my engineers and describe the effect to sort of the same as an f m radio station if it's not coming in and you can crank it up louder it it doesn't get any better if you're from the same family children's playground that belongs to the church in the rectory and this is where they want to place the truck with the the cell phone tower  some of my talking points we buy we courtney in the air and sturgeon as neighbors in stakeholders object to horizons proposed cell tower the church is located there for it religious purposes not so that private utilities may piggyback on the space provided that is in a residential neighborhood aaron and i both have two children and our neighbors around us there are more than half a dozen children within the four houses surrounding this area and the chill our children do go over to this playground and have been playing and our neighbor martin saying over there also has two children behind this playground and his children have a play structure that is right in the way belmont homeowners have every right to expect the church space to be used for its dedicated purposes none of these purposes include accommodation of the business decisions of horizon to encroach on the values of our homes create health controversies and generally disturb our legal rights to quiet enjoyment of our occupancy which by the way we bought and are paying for in addition there was a lack of adequate notification to neighboring property owners about the propose plans and the hearing itself for rising held its first meeting with neighbors less than a week ago on march first and only two homeowners were in attendance i was one of them and as we know that day was when we had the enormous storm there are commercial locations in christian square yet no alternative locations appear to have been considered where is the guarantee that this is indeed a temporary facility no matter what the tower facility is going to devalue this neighborhood for whatever length of time it is up there even for a month  and then i have i'm sorry i have to get into my phone to read the rest of my talking points  as homeowners stakeholders in this decision were being asked to subsidize above a business with our home values it could locate the proposed structure in the business development area it's meant to s the zoning appeals process is being used to amend a communications ordinance bit by bit it is more proper for our government to review the ordinance itself and consider if it needs constant revisions den application to the infrastructure for communications can be located where it will inhance the commercial value see just one thing with this high wind storm that we just had i think it's absolutely crazy to put a sixty two foot high tower right next to my house were were upset and my sister and i actually went out with  with a measuring tape today and when we measured from the corner of the wire fence to the corner of our garage it was a little bit more than twenty feet this tower would be right outside our bedroom window and our den window where our children you know read and watch t v and read where we all relax you know in the summertime i suppose you go outside and look at this and you know even then  there is a parking lot i'm not suggesting you put it in the parking lot i don't want to in the church at all but if there are there needs to be some other all alternatives i think and  we purchased this home in this lovely neighborhood and we came to belmont because of the schools and because we have beautiful children we want to them to walk to school and enjoy the schools and their friends and their neighbors and this just does not fit my vision for myself and my family in my home and where i want my kids so live even for a short time i thank you for your time and i know that there are other people that would like to get up and talk so thank you so much for your attention her roshan i'm here and i'm speaking against this motion i believe that the placement of any kind of a cell phone tower base station than any kind of a residential area especially within the distances that have been verified here are contrary to the to the town of belmont consideration for its citizens and my biggest concern is its ability to monitor the standard there's an f c c standard from the ninety's that's being used and has been used to previously with the belt pleasant street church that was an issue that we were not allowed to consider any of the health risks because of this nine hundred ninety two f c c ruling that gave the industry the ability to go and do this is long is the minimum of the maximum permissible exposure the m p of the emissions from these towers was being not to exceed the only problem with this is that the standards that were used at that time were very brief exposures on the order of a few minutes they were for adults and that they were usually considered to be below the direct the means being transmitted from the from the transmitters so when you start bringing this down lower and you start radiating children and you start you know going on much longer than a couple of minutes then you know contrary to the you know small percentile of of exposure you're getting a lot higher exposure and you really don't have  you know the same i'm sorry to be the intent as i don't know how these compare to the ones on on the existing structure were sort of limited so i think these are four foot in length the ones on the building might be  issue here i'm just going to go back the biggest issue here is the limitation on the town and the public to monitor and verify that the standard is being met it takes a very sophisticated and expensive process to go through and set up you know various emitters rather receivers that will analyze the signal over time and over the place the fluctuations of the use so it's not an easy thing to do and what's even harder to verify  some of the long term effects of this because the science hasn't even been really developed yet to see what the long term effects of this kind of even a minimal exposure on children you really don't know and everybody is sort of you know betting on the fact that oh it's harmless you know people you know put cell phones in their ears and it's only the you know very low power but i won't go any more i i think i just want to make sure that my my opposition and my sympathy with the with our neighbors in belmont serves an existing area and we've given you some coverage maps within the application that show that so we need to be within the same area to provide the same coverage we had about four other sites within this area that we considered key has a better list of them i know one of the the primary ones that we consider the only one that really had enough space to put this was the fire station and when we did the evaluation that we realized however it's a bit too far away it's about a third of a mile it's also one hundred feet lower in elevation so when we run the analysis it simply doesn't work and simply doesn't provide the coverage that was the closest we came to something else that could work  couple points that i'd like to bring up first not a legal standpoint but i after i got this notice in the mail i contacted the church and left an e mail and have not heard back from them and i'm really disappointed with the outreach that was done to the neighboring community and secondly bringing up the c v s a that is a big construction site right now but i did want to point out that there is a large electrical pole and a whole bunch of electro coal equipment for like a mobile office in that site and i was wondering if that might be a possible different site for the sighting of this supposedly temporary cell phone location  the third point that third and fourth point that i want to bring up is that there's actually two standards in our bylaws that haven't been met in this application one is six point eight point five six evidence of a crane balloon or other temporary representation of the height of the facility being brought to the site and kept in place for not less than seventy two hours together with photographs of such representation taken from a sufficient number of locations suitable for evaluating the visual impact of the proposed facility on the town the district and the neighborhood six point eight point three f the fall zone actually if this thing were to fall in crazy winds that we've been having lately it would span all of my neighbors and come into my driveway is a sixty two foot tower there's been no discussion in any of the material that i received about the falls own the design the greater lines how it's going to be tethered if there's a light on top  and i don't know anything about the performance standard for this and so i'm trying to figure out given the storms that we're having and all the nor'easters how that's going to impact this really really densely populated residential area the point being that this is not in the middle of the church this is all the way in the back corner where there is four properties that convenes together so there are at least six houses where if anything happens this tower could impact those  houses and then the last thing that i wanted to bring up a standard six point eight point two slash b which is the same thing but no wireless telecommunications facility or out or apparatus equipments other than an interior wireless telecommunications facility shelby permit it to be located within fifty feet of a single or two family dwelling there is at least seven or eight single family dwellings within fifty feet of the structure i think there are other viable alternatives and i really don't think that raising a children's playground and having a home that's actually within ten feet of the structure is and appropriate place and i think we need to do a little more value ation and what might be might be a it is retractable telescoping an adjustable height pole so it can be changed we should clarify a couple misconceptions that this is in fact right in the center of the church property  poorly though and i understand all of these concerns i do i do this for a living i understand but the thing to remember is this is temporary so if you put a giant dumpster in someone's driveway it doesn't doesn't look good i agree but it's temporary and it's to accomplish an objective and here it's a pretty important one most people do use wireless service and the people who use it don't always come to these meetings i haven't seen too many coming but i would bet the vast majority of people in this room do have a mobile device in their pocket this  there are a lot of people who depend on this service day to day for what they do for a living and their communication right we don't typically see those people voicing their position they sort of assume that everything's going to be ok and that they will always have that service and the next better service not always the case the point i was making is that it is something that's valuable to the community that many many people almost all the we've applied for it to be temporary and as i said i'm perfectly happy with the condition we have absolutely no intention of making this stay up any longer than it needs to this does not perform as good as the site that it is temporarily replacing during construction construction we're waiting for the permit once the permit is issued which i think is waiting on these proceedings it depends on the roof contractor but i don't see any reason for delay so it would be pretty quickly we built in a three month window thinking for sure it would be accomplished in that amount of time and like i said we have no intention of having this up longer than we need it so i would be perfectly fine with  condition that said that this would have to come down as soon as that construction is done and our site could be back on air so if you get a return for a rainy spring and you have three months  what it would rain for three months so that the roof couldn't be repaired you know that that's an unforeseen circumstance we'd be back before the board asking you to extend it i hope that doesn't happen but yeah i don't have an shut off and decommission our site on the roof this is not a long set up time probably forty eight hours so we don't do it in advance i mean we don't want to we we do understand the concerns this is something that's necessary to run the service when construction begins it i don't know exactly how many days it is between when they start working and when they tell us we have to shut down our site but we're not bringing this in until we have to shut down our site  can provide service well i mean i can't tell you what my client's decision would be in the event of a denial we've submitted an application for approval and if it's denied i have to talk with my client and figure out what their next step is but i think the two options that i've laid out are the the two options that jump to mind for me but i don't know enough to think that if if that is what happens a matter of going far and wide and doing it this is an existing facility that we're trying to replicate or so a quarter mile is about three times farther than it can be we need to be in  few hundred feet range of the existing facility it's a big no because it the network is engineered you know is things are not arbitrarily place they have to be in certain places so we're just temporarily replicating what is existing if we go somewhere else you have to reengineer all the other sites and it just doesn't make sense for something that is so temporary so the replacement really has to be very much in the same vicinity many times we try to put it right on the same property if there is room there are times where we've put it on the same rooftop we literally had construction in one place  height is is key so it's not about small it's about being in the same place to replicate it and that's why can't you replicate i don't think there are any buildings there other than houses that we could put it on the rooftop in that neighborhood other than the church but then it becomes an issue of is that better i don't know that that really changes anything and then you talk about sort of a major construction project  something that's very temporary these facilities these cells on wheels are designed to serve this temporary need ok explained in the beginning when you go into the church parking lot it's quite tight and you know that this is a truck it takes up some space it would render a large part of the church parking lot unusable for the time that it's there and it would not because it we're where we're going is right near the parking lot the part that you're talking about is i'm not moving the truck over two or three parking spaces that's that that's the amount of distance we're talking about and the change that that makes from an ass that perspective compared to the problems it creates from taking up parking it just doesn't seem like a practical solution it seems like sort of forcing a hardship on the church that really doesn't give anyone any sort of benefit the town uses which i didn't know before i got in here and i for one know arise and we'll figure out some way to provide service to the first responders that should one have they don't yeah i  post count the church is roughly five hundred feet north but it's situated kind of on the the western edge of that plateau so it's right now today it's serving the majority of the top of this plateau shooting down into this valley right where it's where it's heading off to waverly site which is another rooftop over by the t stop so i can tell just a similar size structure moving over here it will probably come in majority of the plateau but it's going to get shadowed into this area and what's going to happen is the the usage the population in any any you know business is down in this area along propellor road whether or not they have adequate coverage what's going to happen is all that traffic is going to try to be served by it by this wave of the site and so that's what we're talking about were it's not just about taking a side out and filling a gap in coverage it's really about balancing the network as it is today rising has all these sites around it they they work diligently to monitor the performance they make tweaks the antennas the down tilt them reorient them slightly and get the network overall performing as best they can so as soon as you kind of pluck one of these sites out all these other side start scrambling trying to fill in as best they can all the usage so when you start moving a site somewhere else it's it changes the way the now performs so that's why as chris was discussing really it's really important to be as close to the current limitations in communities such as belmont the strong sites have a finite capacity and a lot of sites are being built just to support all that usage so in order to do that they use a higher frequency bands of twenty one hundred megahertz so in some of the coverage pots network that you're going to disturb so it's not the ideal case would provide some coverage share like and like i mentioned probably cover the top of this this plateau but there are going to be areas in the valley that are going to be on challenge to to tap the