us and i would tell you a little bit more about her later thank you my father in the music would be to service song and sound like yourself to me that's the brass ring you know it's not just about going out and  making a patron just go about having to do something for a living it's really living to a player like improvisation and creativity and those are things that this band you know there's no shortage of that it's not like you're going to just do a gig and you going to play it note for note and you get put to know and it doesn't always work it doesn't always work but to know that the potential to go to that place which feels like nothing else  is there every time is the motivation that in good scotch there's no intention except for the intent to be true to myself trust myself and respect music enough that and there's times where i let go and i can touch what it sounds like a five year old head and heart and that's really really magical of america where there is a lot of music and there is a lot of rhythms of style everywhere and because of that she has received many awards into mentally all the year three times and twenty one is that he's like let's say l want to play and i raise my hand to story and i said i want to play the saxophone and i heard then it's cool that girls don't play the saxophone it took me another fifteen years before i woke up and realize i don't need permission and i could go out and get my o somebody who was trying to improve even as they were on stage performing i loved what he was doing and and i was one of them one of that i wanted to understand that we decided that we  what i learned about my mom would come downstairs and tell us that it was snowing and it was getting pretty thick outside so she will wind up actually spending the night downstairs in the basement  the stuff you just can't get any other way not to mention all that i learned about cancer h when you really feel like you are an integral part of something and the other people in that something feel likewise then it's not really about the money or the difficulties or the lack thereof anything you get is just about being we have the same you got to go to pluto to see if there's oxygen and that's when you're taking it so far out and you have to pull it back but you have to go there sometimes just because you feel like it and then you know that's a great feeling if you play with your nails and they're not quite right it's kind of like nails on a chalkboard you know it just doesn't feel right at my nails need a little maintenance and i'm not shy about pointing out the filing stone there's a knife sharpening stone actually for a knife and it work all right i'm almost done last now when people feel valued and appreciated you work harder you're happier you're more creative you're war free and so we've got that freedom which because then the whole level rises up and she's going to rise up to it thank you just said you just schooled me thank you what we're all doing that particular night on that particular set is unique to that moment is one of my favorite people to sing with a wonderful bass player and we're somehow intuitively in sync you can pretty much count on it it just works i think the most valuable thing that i learned from her is is the you know that's the band leading skills the business skills you know interacting with other musicians the organ faces should make you have into being a musician that a lot of people don't think about that she really has all that stuff going on our friends our musical birth child the band that w she actually thrives on writing tunes in the studio and certainly arranging an unsettling thing or there's got to be pressure here we are making the record and still writing  so i mean it's fresh her musical background really i mean it definitely sets her apart she's really worked out lies side she really understands performance and that carries over to the studio world it's really obvious was the only piece of music that i heard in a dream and actually managed to get up and write down a few notes and when i went back to sleep and woke up a few hours later it was absolutely gone from from my mind i can remember thing of it so i went out to the piano and played the six notes i had written down did it in and it came back that's half our relationship in these thirty seconds you know i discover that being a mom pretty much trumped everything i became a better everything that's wrong with her because i wanted her to see me being the kind of person i would want her to be proud of it made me push myself to do things i wanted to do anyway in areas that i needed to improve granted i'm a road musician although you know the road part was altered significantly as needed when she was growing up it links your heart when something is going on with your kids and you're there with them but to be far away it's  really hard she could always reach me and there was never a time that she didn't know she could call me anytime night or day when she needed and she didn't have to worry about time zones and she didn't have to worry about where i was and she didn't have to worry about with me up you need i'm i can't imagine being on the road with people were it doesn't work where there's no hang there's just a great hang which is crucial because if you don't have a hang off stage in this band it's harder to get on stage every night and try to make every two hours he's going to be so so that's a that's sometimes a source of fun when we're traveling specially advance expense i'm a person who probably eat so more of a schedule than anybody else it doesn't matter whether it falls you know right at soundcheck or you know right at the end of a gig i mean usually i'm looking for that next meal i'm pretty fierce that is about you know sticking with the schedule i it's pretty lame you know i mean you know we're not out like you know partying after the show you know that's a pretty consistent go to post again recreation is the you know pick somebody around and everybody kind of you what i wanted to do which is kind of always my goal now when i'm writing a song with lyrics is that the lyrics need to stand up on their own if you're reading it as a as a palmer is a piece it clear understanding for myself as a woman and as my own timeline and how interesting it is to go back to the mindset of where you are but but have the ability of you they were in the back seat i stopped tracking with that pretty early the earlier that would be one that that and present the many musicians who are no own own all those who must receive a real battle national and international recognition and that was fact and influenced by th it is a great summary of the life of one of the most important musicians in the united states of america and the world she has also toured with the great pray that is bruce in the nile and she has also played for the american troops outside in egypt was not reading this course of very classical music go although her styles are generous but at the age of six if a person can play by ear i think that that is a big advantage as a national player and after that when she