think it's important for the court to understand this is the case about the fourth minute protections involving shrewdness on the person this is important to understand because here we have a situation where quite frankly we wouldn't be here today if the government had made the very simple step of taking mr marshall out of the car and removing him and putting him in a safe distance before using the bus or a radioactive device in the alternative to the degree that the government would need instructive in terms of what is a non routine search so we understand what you're narrowing is down to seems to be the danger factor correct because if he's not in the  car where there's clearly no intrusion and what are you giving up on the psychological for since he wouldn't be in a car so all it does come down to is whether or not he would be exposed  the fact that somebody has radiated his car you're not arguing with that would still be a factor really comes down to whether or not theirs danger and fear associated with being this analogy by the by the government's expert in the case on the record below compared to a smoke detector also compared to the range finder on the camera which doesn't use radioactivity there's nothing the record indicates that to be turned on and off very is always admitting radiation and the only thing preventing it from moving radiation is the tungsten shouted we have on the buster so if we do contemplate the fact that some of these monsters may not be functioning suspicion what we do have in this record is evidence of other incapability of the agents to use some of the early basis to maintain sponsors the only thing they're allowed to do is to change the battery in the alley the readout screen they don't check them for leaks they don't check  on the hundred mike you carry buster the rate of exposure was one hundred twenty to three hundred twenty micro units in ten seconds now don't ever accept anything i say numerically mathematically lousy mathematician but last night i ran some numbers and on the rate of admission if three hundred twenty quid ten seconds i think that's thirty two percent so if you take that  an hourly rate of admission because the something like one hundred fifteen thousand two hundred micro units for micro carries if they're interchangeable now i know that the expert testified that the actual exposure was around zero so what's your view on the the record as between the theoretical rate and the actual exposure under your theory of leakage are you saying that if it leaks it can drift those ok and therefore doesn't convert the x ray of the baggage into a non routine search so i understand that the question i have is this is a device which is new  jurisprudence as far as this court is concerned and you're asking us it appears to validate the use of the buster apparently under all circumstances well certainly if this court then what ruling from us are since you're posing this is a test case is that when the high tenth of people there was a theory floating around another would have got resolved and the high people who lived under high tension wires were exposed to look like dramatic electromagnetic fields that cause them and everybody laughed at that at the beginning and thought that was a vocus klein but the science suit is at some point  no there's more to it than needs to be studied maybe just something that is the same with cell phones and you know argument that if you hold cell phones too close your for too long you may have an accident that is me you know the words there are a number of these devices that are similar i'm not aware of a commercial application for certainly there should be commercial applications of sherman whether it's voids in construction whether or not if they pour concrete it will tell you how thick concrete is or if there's a void behind it so i guess if there was technological need to look behind something nondestructive manner which it says can damage the vehicle there's no damage on a moving parts there can be no damage there is no force involved in this case there's no residual radiation no testimony about any