appears anywhere on the record decided to simply run the plates and then to run the get a registered owner run the registered owner determine the registered owner was a middle aged hispanic man noticed that the drive fisher point that if your whole case seems to revolve around the stopping of the vehicle in the first place is that correct that's how you can see tension in the party if if we find that the stop was appropriate apart from the immigration cases why is why is he checking a license plate a search act that's a license plate is sitting out there in public on public  suspect why they did it but on the on the record the paper record what they did was make a license plate which they have every like you like and the car came back not stolen nothing nothing wrong with the car no reason to be concerned it as they do with the road robot i mean you can't make a random search yes that's what i mean i think this is this has overtones of wrote robot cases every tenth that you want us to impute scienter if you will to the police officer that they picked them up because they were spanish and that everything flowed there from as a result of that is that correct i'm not saying council we have to go on what's on the record what can you point to in the record that will help us understand your point i mean you're implying in effect racism where in the record does it indicate anything like that with in this case the deputy ran the plates which are open to the public they're not protected by any privacy interest learn that the registered owner was suspended observed that the driver of the vehicle matched the description of the registered owner in our view is probable cause any in its operation reflected any violation like the tiger that expired on on the plate the one of the drivers doing something that appears to be a traffic violation you're what's the forty  license number or vehicle license number so there's no fourth amendment implication at all and i guess the inference is in the defendant's break that there's some kind of racial profiling going on in this case and so i thought i wrote down for answers to that allegation number one there's no evidence of that in the record at all number two correlation does not imply causation in other words the fact th point let's just say that there was a program to check the identity of only hispanic males would you think that the fact that there's no right privacy with respect to licenses with that protect the government in this case no there has to be any either probable cause or reasonable suspicion to stop the vehicle every eccles protected by the fourth amendment so you can't just stop it remember he thought it was either an oregon driver's license or an oregon id card or the card let him drive you know and that's why they also was tracking he wanted to see if he was a licensed driver and when he checked to find out there was a warrant for his arrest  make sure he had the real thing and then in this case as counsel said the defendant gave his true name and that's why the fingerprints were necessary to link him to the crime and instead his name they found is a file referred to for criminal prosecution before the the officer said he a probable cause reasonable suspicion to run the plates and then probable cause when the plates came back a little spanish and you know we can see that the prints come in and all anytime the government