and it's also going to be designed such that this could be a load bearing floor given future potential future expansion of the police station and is the question really more about town hall and magics mansion we've actually talked about some expansion down this end of the building which we would say is still a possibility as is the potential for this other end to a great behind the building so again depending on what the size of the group that edition or additions maybe we have have so there around the back of the cellar for is the conversation that we've been having and we really just started talking a little bit more about financing read recently last few meetings is it's more of an access control that make sure is like a penitentiary level of security like it's not it doesn't need to be back i just need to be something that is enclosed to make sure that people can get out and people can get in and then in the private in the area where in just a closeup this is the big bought with this idea of creating this garden between the two buildings starts to become evident you start to see some of the other three dimensional get a sense of there in the middle of the afternoon or in the morning you'll trip but if you go there before nine o'clock you're going to wait for a while a long while that would probably be i think that i think that that would continue most of the senior fence on so much of it is in that exploring the specially if you drive the prisoners inside a building before you go through the doors it's hard for me to understand why we need to make the fortress around y it's very important to know that we want to build that with the ability to grow the building down the road if necessarily really wanted to only have program space in the main building with those t side of the building has something a little more contemporary something we're bringing with this well it kind of gives a flavor towards the library which is down the street was transitioning towards the edge of the property anyway we didn't want  how we go about paying for the construction and to do to bring this forward in november doesn't give us that flexibility we also will be starting a fire station really after successful  going for the end of the nine dead and gone away there were a couple that require i believe what action but in addition to the poor and then there was some additional want of the plan to have  board were implemented that was actually when this was shortened to the present location the reason for that was that it provided edition of circulation for public safety vehicles to get around the sight lines to the birth of the sign has we need people to be able to see it coming up and down washington street so it's the side lines that if you're going east or west from washington state from your card to that sign and that's that's wh effort to date regards to the development of the two fifteen history of the process has not been easy or truly joyful person anymore we do believe consider all progress is bin laden finding the right balance between meeting the purpose of the senior residential last meeting which was four buildings with me to four portman's would not be allowed even if they were to file something before the before the election they could file the that's what a fortune was to close the application last year in session and indicated they were going to vote on the f h and tonight so the board has the option of approving denying or dismissing application right now here is closed this matter is ending rest of us it just hasn't worked right and i believe the test was much better served it think everyone should know that i believe i can speak for the next board but it was clearly or intentionally even though we're asking proposing with or without prejudice i would regularly with no prejudice that means that you're encouraging them to try again well they're going to try to get some of them try to get around this parcel for something i think right balance on  need official waivers right i think the only way there that's necessary is for the the this is a limited application limited in the idea application and doesn't need waivers for instance or landscape parking requirements because you're not well definition that is not a requirement for a preliminary plan waterways are requirement but not caliber of trades i did include it in the plan because i was asked to  caliber so while the plan may be complete for the purposes of the state to establish a freeze it was not complete prior to friday to allow this board to act on it so now i imagine it is complete i signed so just getting the application signed met the state standard that allows the first step to go forward to get it free in order for the board to act on it they would have to meet western standards and if all those need to step back to you jim but i didn't really understand what the problem was with the definition it seemed ok to me looking at these other definitions i don't see one indefinite correspondent meaning let's let's think about it so why don't we send the town meeting and people can think about it and we can try to present a case and see what happens and to fail to have it but i don't think it's fair to say want it doesn't create any kind of protection for the time that most of our other towns do so for that reason i think we have picked the very smallest then comes recommendation will be overturned if there are people who are in favor people are opposed to it then they probably one of the term defend common even if they do then they don't have enough assets so the reason the board had taken a step in the first place was because it's been see if the town wants it and if they can they want it to be adopted and if they don't then we won't carry forth enough time to take in our conference plan instead will find other historic preservation initiatives to concentrate on the response the with the people actually with the historical jesus and now you say this is a small matter but it's the only one we have all these other towns have had this level and that's why i don't think we're not we're not doing this because we want to go from here on the one of the next level i think this is what west would lead to and once and for the kind of level that they are that we should have in this town the next level is all a big step of creating a real historic district where you have exclude replacing the siding changing the windows the energy efficient windows removing a portion of the building a garage or an addition that was out there and i think what they were asking is that you have specific start to allow housing in district six seven washington and high street and to change the portion of housing to fifty percent no more than fifty percent in district three which are glacier never six and seven business district and to refer to a parking area as opposed to a parking facility article seven proposes changes to the height regulations to adopt the provisions of the mass building code without referencing the article a process housekeeping changes just one change to remove the repeated line in the used car in article ten proposes the access approval only district to replace the street access special permit district route at this time and maybe come back and look at that in the future there was a petition or article that was submitted and the board did make a recommendation on the position article that was more th that recommendation stand but i think we will well still schedule a meeting of the planning what for six thirty if there was something you know not coming to me right now what it was that was something this i wanted to discuss with a plan that