were wrong but it's a modified some to indicate that eighty four forty one is was about things that makers of products manufactured products make not not just makers of paper makers of i i believe that regardless of whether it's a consumer product or manufacture products still need one for anyone as long as the machinery makes up or or uses used paper in some ways it's an it's an article of making up of paper products there are several headings in the chair which include media for example made up textile articles of having sixty three thousand or made up fishing net  article maybe outside even for forty one even if eighty four forty one covers manufacturing articles for something other than the making of paper itself i don't believe that to be reason for the base simply decreed civility for the product and it could not you could not hold this in your hand and and have something there is simply you really have to put it down in order for it to have some stability it provides energy from the system from the working surface and it allows work paperwork because the basis is necessary for the product  reflect what these particular order and the government position was to differentiate between the larger or smaller group yes your honor the government differentiate earlier on to settle a land here earlier on the the list and say that one common feature is that they're not resting on the ground when you use them you're actually holding them from high cutters the bow cutters of every other raf side so i and what the trial court did in  looking at the language that congress used in the statutes is noted the fact that perforated punches and similar hand tools is set off by intel and have promised this is not the oxford comma here so we don't have a comma after the word punches and similar handles with similar handle reflecting back to the entire list of articles so if we look at the fact that congress is set aside then we have similar handles perspective perforating punches and we don't necessarily have to pull into  into play that this is something it must be held in the hand particularly so i think it is the bill language that we should use here by congress and that the trial for below did not observe set forth that indeed it doesn't have to be t had in mind two things holding one hand work with the hand what i'm saying is there something in the middle character well using and it seems to me that was awfully close to what your position seemed to be in the the in the settlement position that the things that were what was the phrase operated best or operated that operated fast when used on the surface you right your honor and the trial court may not have articulated as as clearly and as nicely as one would hope but it does not trump or did not look at these articles and takes a while looking in a four thirty nine articles as it's making a paper product using you know one of the things you want to use makes the outside of it attracts right your honor i think that when we look at the language that she did in eighty four forty one hand used by the hand to punch out a little designs and these are things that are being done almost no one off perspective and to the extent that they're being used to sell that these products when we look at the record the primary this year for vax according to the advertising you don't articles which are reflected for example page one sixty four and a in the record plunges are quick to an easy way to a effect and talked about an interesting scrapbook pages and cards and has an easy to use something for this is not something that's for mass production and generally is not something that people are going to be selling these are because no question these are punches indeed these are marketed as such these are we didn't name them punches this is what the manufacturers main them and this is what they do punish the paper and they it goes through and it punches out a design now it also leaves a piece of paper that may have holes in it one could perhaps have the piece of paper and design that but these are not articles that work these are not ours like paper man on th these in the paper has been perforated by this particle by this device because i have to have have you made an argument and if you haven't made an argument are we free to think of this case under general world for and we don't believe it is a journey through because we don't believe this falls into a four fully well we do not believe that that category actually contemplates this particular device to believe that a fully was really for mass production and for  materials and congress has told us that actually in the language it used to be two or three because there is one article in that list it's called middle hunting shares congress is the word medal the only article in the list of eighty opposing counsel presumption that eighty four forty one only covers commercial paper making items there's nothing in the heading than that and there's not not even something explanatory that  only you know machinery with used for commercial making purposes are in the text so we have to look to the language of the statute and limited there as for the idea that  that this is a military rule might be taken into consideration that rule that rule general rule or has rarely been used is there are several and if you want to go through another rule you might want to go to the general rule three a which looks at relative to city and that one your honor might apply here where you do have a harder heading to