successfully managed to make it work so superintendent failing is is eager to get that going and so be working towards a drop off a pick up song which is basically right in front of the school there's there's some diagrams that clint is preparing to show w mike on which i didn't do at the beginning but i won't start from the beginning again so the next is i guess brooke you're up and your daughter oh you know what tom if you don't  i authorize you to buy a few adapters you tell you john i have the ground floor here i think that's what you want to use so  my name is john failed the superintendent of schools the the security aspects of the new building have been discussed over the course of the last year or so but more intently since the beginning of this o'connor who was at the high school after hearing all the different features that were available in schools we then sat internally and had a meeting between all the belmont folks and asked what our protocols want to be looking forward how do we want to organize our school and how do we want to make sure that what we do with our personnel in our students supports the technology and the security measures that would like to see put in place and then we actually pick from a menu of the things that were offered that day and brought them back to a meeting on february th in february nd and really have come up with with we believe to be a very customized fit of security measures for the new school seven to twelve it's hard to talk about some of the exact features because we're actually don't want to actually give the security aspects of our building away on on camera i would say that the philosophy that we all bought into is if you work really hard to keep in the bad folks out you do a better job of keeping the folks inside the building safe so a lot of the work in the menu options that we're choosing and looking at putting in place revolve around  identifying folks before they come in the building keeping all the exterior doors locked having two distinct entries the middle school side in the high school side and having a very rigorous process for visitors to be able to enter the school with double entry with dedicated personnel to introduce them into the building with credentials being presented through what we would call a movie theater style arrangement where you had to bring in give your credentials and your credentials be given back and you'd be buzzed in on two different occasions so those those aspects of keeping as many bad folks out as we can through all the updated measures is what we would he considered to be phil considered to be the most primary want to go out from gym class to the to the field or our class needs to go out teachers will have to follow about to go outside and then fog declasse back in so it is about how do you get out safely and know that the folks leaving the building are allowed to do so in how they can get back in so the access is there but the monitoring all of that interaction and that behavior is done with cameras it's done with  locks and doors that are sequence back to devices that principals in assistant principals and s r o will have so they can actually see who's going in and out so the methodology of where the technology is put in place around the perimeter the technology that we have around devices that folks can actually see in that the establishment of cameras throughout the building for that purpose and in the different technology that allows us to check people and know who they are before we let them in and actually would be able to have facilities have a mechanic come in in know that they're going to be there because they could call that into the front person and allow them to come in so we we can show you the building a little bit just to give you some detail and again i'm i'm i'm being vague on purpose you really can't be at every door at the high school mr fail and so how do you monitor students just walking out if it is an open campus so walking out to go to the car the new technology will have a camera at that door and a local alarm that when that door gets opened from the inside a small i will go off to the local teachers can look out the door and say john failand come on back here big stuff you you have to come back into the building it's not time going to if you don't use that door and a camera will kick in and they will see who that student is now that's that goes out to the whole building to the police and to the fire that's just a local notification so then that picture then that screen will come up on our item whether that's a i pad or a device that our ministration has in our s r o house so we can record that and go to that student and fall through it the expectations the teachers want to leave the building and during our class or physics they can follow because now that alarm shuts down for about three minutes and allows the class to leave so they can go out in the field do physics and when they come back in the fiza teacher can fart to get back in so that's that's a planned event that we think is a safe way for us to keep the building open and accessible but do so in a safe way and obviously to tom's point all doors of fire excessive all this plan has  been vetted initially by the fire department as well so his high school side folks would walk in and they had to get buzzed right here because they'll be someone right here in a booth that will be looking at them and watching them sit here they'll buzz in they'll be in this now port where they can't go in the building and they can't go here and they will put forward and they'll be accepted as a visitor if they have business where they have to go directly in the building we can buzz them that way and if they have to commit and wait for someone a guidance counselor a teacher it would go in the waiting room so initially we're really talking about the kind of mechanism we want to see put in place where you have to be buzzed in twice you have to show your credentials and your corrections will be scanned in a badge will be given for every visitor that comes in the building on the middle school side the same exact process will happen we want to make sure that we have consistency across both countries so you would have a person here at this and they could see you right here they would by you in here and then you would give your credentials and then they would buzz into the the administrative waiting area or if we already knew they had business in the school they could go directly in the other doors that we have around perimeter will be fobbed will be accessible for teachers to be able to use protocols will be set up within the within the school between our seventy eight administrator in a high school administrator that a consistent about how we organize our students coming in and out of the building the biggest challenge with this building is not with the building of the updated security it's with how we decide to organize ourselves especially around open campus we really want to be thoughtful about how we approach the independence that we feel the open campus gives us for our seniors and our juniors but really start to hone in on how do we want to organize that and how do we want to have our students exercise that with with more security in mind as we move forward so that's something that we're going to have to talk about internally i know that if our school resource officer melissa ricardo was here she would really like to have it not happen because it does present security challenges but we believe the top of the menu items that we have for security devices cameras in and out procedures and technology will allow us to have some some form of open campus if we choose to do so we can all always pull that back to no open campus that would be the easie thing to do from a security standpoint but we're measuring that programatic lee as we move forward so we're very excited this also lends itself to after someone gets in a building if they do get in if we if there are they're able to get through what happens inside the building what type of glass are we using in certain places how do the doors work in the classrooms how do the calls go to the main office how do the panic buttons were caught there's a lot of things in the in the building they begin to kind of get deeper into maybe providing too much information to to the community but we have the highest degree of technology the latest i would say strategies to support keeping folks out and then going into a communication mode if something happens inside the building that partners with our fire department or our school department to enable us to communicate well shut down the building in certain areas so we can coordinate areas of the building to minimize the threat and also to fulfill our lockdown procedures in our evacuation procedures that we currently have that make sure that all students have who are safe can get safe and out of the building and i think a lot of our communication in our ability to lock down the building in certain pockets  does that very very well this will be a state of the art building as a relates to security and it has been customized to support what this community believes to be is a unique feature of providing some open campus aspects for a student's as well and john just a couple of the things right now not just on students security but building security when you're you're after school you're using the field house and other things but those weekends so the buildings used seven days a week and we wanted to be used by our community the primary spaces in the building that are used by the community as are the field house and the pool so on the th and th grade side we have a dedicated door with the ability to close down these hallways where this can be the door that our community can come in to use the fieldhouse for park and recreation for folks who use the pool and there are a we have the ability to have the other parts of the building locked down so this fits all the e d s needs that we have in case of emergency it isolates the folks that come into the community side on the weekends and at night to just one hallway one door that they'll be able to to utilize well that will minimize any one ability to go through the building at night on saturday and sunday as in spaces that are not welcome when we move over to the other side and we look at a town meeting or a special function at the high school auditorium we are really clear bill if you can move us over to the auditorium side we know that this new building is going to come with scaling up some of our security procedures and some of our staffing needs as a relates to how we want to ensure that our teachers and students are in the data safe and i can remember as a safe at night we have this unique ability to have this all open for an art of tori and we had a little shop of horrors at the high school last week and it was a huge hit this are touring would be filled with five or seven hundred folks we would want to have these doors open but we would want to have a greeter here lot that only had folks going towards the auditorium the bathrooms right here we're keeping all that centralized this is going to be the other side of the the the facility that will be used a lot at night for certain big events we have a small kiosk here that we could use as a security space for someone to be with the device that shows again the cameras and the pitches of all the different hallways and we're trying to create some sort of a mechanism on top of the stairs to keep folks from going up to the nd or rd floor where  appropriate but this is going to have to be staffed differently this is going to be the what i consider to be the showcase of the building when you walk up to the high school you're going to see the glass entrance going to see the art of tori and i think our music and performing arts department is such a huge asset and we want to show it off so this allows folks to utilize that space but it will take some personnel to do so the other parts of the main office will be locked all these other facilities can be locked so we can lock the building  down but will need some staffing to be able to support that side of the building will be opening up and we think it's the right thing to do to ensure that the community can use those spaces well thank you john any questions i love overview safe and safe yeah i have to say that in the consulting that we had and met on january th and then he gave us a great memo and mike in that internal team and i went through it we gave our own memo back  incorporated those those concerns he presented again perkins and well brought several of the consultants to support the the design pieces of the work that he was speaking to as a release of security i felt very very confident after those two meetings working with those consultants that we were getting great advice great technology support great building construction and design support and this gentleman from d b s was i think very very much  stablish professional and felt great about the school safety protocols in the measures that we're putting in place so all this is in the in the design development drawings that's being budgeted all this is in the budget for the building the things that are being utilized without saying where they are would be as john said technology so cameras door controls alarms motion sensors hard things would be barriers and those would include special types of glass special types of windows and all that's employed throughout but you don't see it it is state of the art technology it's no different than walking up to a building right now it's all part of what  forget exactly the term are without the you prefer security professional use but it's not in your face ok so i go up to the airport it is not in your face but it is top of the line and i'm very proud that our team was able to put something together with you know mike and you just spent a lot of time with staff working this all over and talking it through and you know some difficult conversations but it worked out really really well ok thanks to our team and we'll move on the the one thing i forgot  traffic working group is last meeting we had comments from nelson nygaard that explained what the neighborhood over trowbridge wanted to see as a result of the work for that will happen but also the two years of construction activity that centers the public access to the east side the trowbridge neighborhood you recall we went through facing but we had a change last week and that is the change will have traffic coming down underwood as it does today entering the school where it does today so all of that's not changing and that and the traffic flow through the campus will be clockwise if you recall last time i presented this the campus was presented with a was showing a collar clockwise flow of traffic and when that was reviewed with a neighborhood consultant it was suggested that we turn it around it has a slight  impact to the campus and that it is not as ideal but it certainly works and because the neighborhood consultant felt that the solution was better for the neighborhood when i had made the change that's why there was a little glitch and in this diagram consultants came back and said the neighborhood seems that would react better with a clockwise which is kind of the way it flows right now so people won't be so worked up showing up in september with you know what's changing what i have to do about it i get to school you know we don't have to  the school sinuses very here at the bottom you know what the sign right here is they're pointing into the campus it makes a lot of sense for two years so bill is there my assumption is that they will make it least trowbridge if not true bridge and baker they will remove the time to to not enter those are both of those streets right now or do not enter from seven dollars to nine dollars going towards concord so we haven't seen the final results from glenn but this was this is a very early review of what they're recommending i do believe that exiting inflow or no flow occurs during school time so that's we should have a better of the up they've this friday right now but he he wanted to get that to us early because he knew that we were making yeah you saw this west this is actually an correct correct not that's a good point we haven't seen that yet options and we're going to ask you to give us your thoughts on those options when we go to the planning board meeting we will have of present a more final presentation without the options so as we go through the planting we're going to spas and have some deliberation on what we're presenting so then we'll go forward with the other one which don't require as much feeling of lighting lighting it's a little more subtle the differences but you but we can get your feedback especially on the impression of the lighting that we have we really have more of three equals or not distinguishably different but please feel free to comment on everything we're presenting today actually but some have very clear opportunities for you to say yes maybe no on the options for for absolutely because getting to was that we all the planning for the submission on monday morning and to achieve that we're asking for the building  committee to weigh in on options so that we're presenting them with what we'd rather not present them with three because we want to show them what the building committee for st they may come back at that one and say what if you did x y and yeah it is it is so you've seen this plan many times and the areas in particular that will be focusing on today as the planting and the areas that we have the options that we want you to weigh in on  within this area the site which is the most visible and public face of the building and so a lot of thought a lot of attention has gone into thinking about the design intent for that area and i'll explain that as we get into the options so we'll introduce you to the planting pallet and st talk about the ground plane and the materials that are being proposed for that and then talk about the trees after that so the space between the main entrance to the high school and concord avenue has been in vision and to be this bold landscape that takes the geometry off the main commons route through the expose expresses that on the land both in terms of the ground plane as well as the trees and in the vision for that is to allow the as you're coming in whether you're coming in by car coming in b bicycle or you're walking into the site to experience that landscape as a way that's directional and focuses your attention on the main interest of the building so the ground plane has been visioned as alternating bands of different vegetation we have three different options to show you how that is transitioning both either with we go to the st slide here with this is prairie drop seed has a different character in this growing season is or in the fall and in the winter it actually turns more of a lighter tan color and and then amongst that would be  trees old show you that afterwards but we want to show you this this is the sort of highly detailed version of that and i know that when we presented planting using the overall rendering  committee originally there was some one in individual spoke about maintenance as a consideration so the maintenance aspect associated with the ornamental grass once it's  lower than actual moaning but it does take a couple of years for it to get established and fully colonized that area during which time it is more maintenance than regular moaning so the  step one step backwards towards a more conventional landscape is to suggest that the ornamental grass is replaced with lawn but we'd still have the alternating band effect using the evergreen foliage you know here and then the rd option which i'm clicking to is all long and that one will rely entirely on the trees to create that effect that i was describing initially lawn is the material that your current maintenance staff are very familiar with the ornamental grass is something that is a dramatically different character which we think would really be a bold statement for the building but it would require that more annual maintenance of cutting it back once the foliage has been about this time of year actually late february early march before the new growth starts to come out so we're going to move right into the trees and then we can come back and talk about maybe we can just jump to the trees in this area i'll come back to those t e so we have the different colors of different types of tree species but the rows of the trees are what are creating that three dimensional directional character described so as you were as you were to approach the building either by by car or bicycle or by foot you're experiencing the vegetation above i love these trees are all branched above eye level seven or eight feet would be the lowest branch height would see under them and between them to create these very defined vistas as you're looking towards the building and traveling to the site i think we should just go to look at the different types of trees as well no sorry thank you broke the trees were only showing one option for the tree geometry and layout and species and they would work with any of the ground plane vegetation options any of not those that show in the tree species but we would have them branched at seventy eight dollars or eight feet above the ground surface to in the trees or the distance between the trees so the trees that we're showing here are spaced about  thirty five feet apart and these this particular species london plane tree is a very large tree and it's used a lot for this type of planting in we've seen examples of this in europe as a so do you start with what the players playing for documents say and let it grow in size so my understanding on the when i was on the planet you know we always wanted for four and a half so i don't know where the three half number came and that's just what they gave us four i think the three and a half number past it probably do with like a smaller development where you could residential doing like a residential deal this is a commercial job it's a big big building i would stay with the four number so we should go sure the bottom of the branches would be at a fee and when these trees are put in it four dollars inch caliper probably about sixteen to eighteen feet in height maybe twenty feet and the london plane trees will get very large  there are a large tree tree so depending on the soils in the character of the land that they're growing in they could be anywhere from fifty to seventy feet in height so the london plains are actually very fast growing super important for the longevity of the tree we have engaged pine and swallow soil scientists in the engineering of the new root zones that we're using throughout the campus here so that's for the athletic field soils for the planting soils and for the lawn areas so the soil starting out for the root zone will be excellent what's below that in terms of groundwater elevation and the denser silty or soils mate create some genetic limitations in terms of the maximum size these trees can ok so the next slide is showing the other grove of trees and these were proposing our linden and linden is another tree that's on the town's list that has a more regular form and character to it again will be branched up eight feet above the ground and as little of that matures a little bit smaller than the london plane trees but because of its uniformity and regularity we think it would be a great choice for this grove where we have them in a grid and this is really taking the mass of the building and connecting it out across the driveway over to harrah's field and defining the front from the back right so we've also included the same species in the middle school drop off island area so i think what we should do is maybe go back to the three crown plane vegetation options and you told me those are a little messy for parking so strategically right if anybody was familiar with lindens the street trees never parked under them and have a little bit of sap on their car and after parking overnight we don't put them over top of parking spaces we don't put them over top of  pavement surfaces that can be discolored like concrete they are located over lawn so that's going to be fine so i wanted to engage in a discussion about the vegetation at the ground plane for the main entrance and i think it you know if you have any questions with regard to what it does or how it's cared for i can answer those questions for you so i'll bring up a was the project continue to look that way years so the discussion was what is that what is actually addition and how does that get translated to town department school departments because of let's step back here and say that we were treated john staff at a meeting regarding who was responsible for what parts of the building both inside and out obviously inside pretty much as all with the school the part outside it gets a little different between facilities and d p w yes and so this some of this a lot of this that we're talking about that i think really is in the realm of the p w and you know is there will there be a budget we have to ask ourselves that will there be a budget to keep this mature or keep this in good shape what i heard you say david is it takes two to three years to establish this of good means but once that's done the the ability for this to stay the way it's presented is very easy maybe once a year some manual pop that still makes it should not maybe once a year it would be cut back the dead foliage would be removed and the new growth would come out from the ground but during the st two or three years these plants would be spaced apart so that they would grow together within that twenty three year period and completely cover the ground but in that twenty three year period there would be some weed removal and mulching to make sure that other plants don't move in while these plants are covering the ground so the idea might be that we as a building committee we don't we do capital work we don't do maintenance however that what you just described david is part of the capital investment of developing the mature plantings for two or three years and we could probably fund that clearly skin is working on the right side of this diagram why the left side is done for two years so they're already on campus doing work so we'll look creatively to see if there are ways we could build the project to have those two to three years incorporated into our by so that it's stablished and not a burden of the town and then after it gets turned over the burden does go back to the town but it's much much less but it's still potentially more than what the town does today and we have to have that discussion and make sure i'm thinking about this this morning as i'm getting ready to do  ego they should have input and i absolutely agree and you know that's so connecting the dots this is why i asked for that meeting two or three weeks ago because i knew this was coming now as we talk about it we're going to have to reconvene with those responsible if we choose more than grass to say how does this look you know what are what are the towns resources that need to be put in place how can we help as a building committee at least to for short term to get these things are established to a david so this is basically self sufficient at that point we talked about the need for irrigation and service so you'll be able to talk about that and we don't we don't put in your geisha in but somehow there has to be the ability to water this for a season or two and maybe will do something else us i would i describe it as if it's a temporary system here you know for the st growing season i just get you know how this works out for a bank no problem because they have a cow they they call their these are very extensive areas so i think the the rock as a surfacing would be in my personal opinion harsh you know because if you really want to soften up the nation i'm not saying just rock i mean it's kind of yes you have to worry about know that's a that's a really good question to be perfectly honest with this type of vegetation i don't know that the geese issues that i've seen typically are associated with lawns and athletic fields where they landing great numbers and you have  ninety's and trees that were you know thirty or forty years old were were dying so supplemental irrigation as bill was mentioning is necessary for the establishment but in extreme situations like that that it would be important if you wanted to maintain the season you know are these these this stuff succumbing to the sea you know they're very drought and disease resistant plants so in terms of normal weather in new england and in this area of new england they would be fine and it wouldn't damage well the concentration of the ice in chemicals may cause some die back around the edges of the island for sure yeah that's right there's nothing in some detail gardens close to the front entrance of someone's house you may want to like late this time of year cut some of the browning foliage but the new growth comes out very quickly in the spring and covers that you know that and that's you well the lawn species that we would specify here for a non irrigated lawn would be tolerant of the heat and the dry in the summertime more of a fescue low maintenance grass and the watering requirement for these plants is only during the establishment period or in periods of extended extreme drought conditions if you didn't want to see the die back it would be necessary just to be made quickly to run but even with  steps along we have to correct so the establishment for the lawn is a little bit faster we look at entire entire year to cool seasons spring and fall depending on when it's seeded hari landscape bashi would be the best it's hard for me to imagine that just by this site in the way we look at it but i do want to start to also put myself in the child's position of walking down mark about when we are very well with we really should be thoughtful about our in being talked about our half ways of walking which i thought i think we have and then just maybe revisit and challenge our assumptions a little bit with that because we're progressive we were planets and even potentially where we have any kind of pathway the comes in from here and then wraps around the drop off is actually a very obtuse angle and not having to walk through two foot tall grass spans and not have an across the driveway we think is a as a real desire line you know that yes so one of the attributes we like about that when it's in mass is that it all kind of grows together and looks like a common surface when you use something like fountain grass it's very clumpy and so you have a whole different texture over the surface you know in terms of a bunch of individual mounds of grasses that even though both of those received well and colonize well in a particular area you know this one we think in mass has a more uniform appearance to say  a part of a lot of unsuccessful ones both at home and at school and they're i think about all the reasons why they were unsuccessful whether it was the lack of water and the wrong type see the back of fertilization kids walking  across the ice or things like that to me it's like kids walking across is what destroys or going to test that their school at the general middle school and seems to be that the one thing that we should prevent the most the one factor in my opinion that's good most likely to destroy the lawn is kids walking across it so if if this long grass helps prevent that to me that actually should be prioritized i just think that there's different that we can always change the icing we can always change the way we maintain it can change a fertilizer  if we say kids are not likely to walk across that grass i would tell you kids are likely to walk across the grass if we say that grass really hard to get through there's really no benefit to trying to walk through that grass you know it's also the to me it's all about how big it is you know that makes sense i just want to what they're this is the most expensive option the middle one is the next it's less expensive and the least expensive is the lawn so it all it all i guess we are right now we've we've included the full option in the d d cost estimate and we are going to be seeing these estimates very soon if i was to put a order of magnitude value to it i think i'd have to put a range at this point it's definitely more than double the vegetation establishment cost of lawn to do this option probably triple but you have to understand that in terms of this way is the reason why not only because this is inviting in that kind of the best way to go but just something that just allows you to see something that allows you when you look at this does not a straight line that there is some sort of a deterrent right here and it could be tastefully done and it could be incorporated with the current design in the plants in the growth that we're all having in mind but i think that those small things really do kind of in the back of the everybody's head pushes them back onto the sidewalk and has them follow the path so it could be simply just in cloying some sort of a tool like a small gate or small fence or a larger rock that had something that they could be part of the display to address that i would advocate that maybe we consider a temporary fence during the establishing period of a two d two year period or something like that so that once this vegetation is a stablished we feel that this more uninterrupted the effect of this ground plane planting would be most clean and simple if it was uninterrupted by other objects so i think it might be good to consider that deterrent as a temporary measure during the establishment period that's just my own personal opinion since something well my favorite project so i wonder if you know you put don't do it you're different sure but what if you put something like that ten feet around the whole perimeter so it makes it unpleasant to get in there it's  grasses it's it's it's like you can vote so maybe the grasses are on the side where people would be just like i'm just saying that i was on the other side of the you know it was so let's let's move on but these are great thomas this is what i asked earlier on i appreciate building and concord avenue and what we've invision this space is being because we did hear some comment back from the building committee a few weeks ago about maybe that could be a little bit more usable space particularly when we're talking about the ornamental grasses in  and that this is a dramatic difference between the formality of this area that we just talked about so this takes on the character or natural character of the pond what's happening around the pond on this side and as well as the vegetation management that will be that we are talking about on the north side of the pond this st slide actually shows the ground plane being developed with this understood story kind of woodland garden type species of grasses and this winter berry for instance and berry these are plants that are basically for anywhere from three feet tall to sixty eight dollars if winter berry is left unpruned can even grow a little bit taller than eight feet tall but as understorey to the tree canopy in this area which i'll show you next but that is a more informal character now the spacing of these plants and grouping with a being in grouping basically allowing for sight lines between them wouldn't be complete dense planting we have identified this cut out space space here is being an area that could be lawn and would pair with if you had a lawn option with at least the bands are total on which it sounds like you're not doing on the area at the front of the school but why don't we go to the next slide of detail where we were just contrast being that to say ok we could just make this whole area the trees in this area which is a more informal grove right there you know and we're showing a mixture of species also of all from the towns recommended street tree list of red maple elm and red oak over here and then we have these two ornamental trees of service berry and red bud again you know just to naturalize that area and make a dramatic and a relatively dense planting so that it contrasts against the openness and more formality at the front of the school so i think you know it would be helpful to to have a little bit of discussion maybe about the ground plane approach here of more open or more like woodland garden with the shrub and grass layer there joy i gotta say these these suggested plants are much taller than the ground cover that was talked about in the fro also think that this area has to get established in that it could be sort of a woody thing i like the idea of the pollen coming across but i'm just trying to figure out if it's practical a little bit or stablished properly or becoming very challenged with the tree canopy overhead all the other stuff going on i look at our professionals and say they wouldn't put it here or couldn't get established but i i questioned this yesterday we reviewed it with planning board staff whether or not this  is the right approach here with with all the with these types of plants i think it's a matter of degrees as well i mean if you want to focus on shorter plants we could you know the inquiry to get the berry and the summer that the berry will get up for four feet or greater so it takes a beating in the winter because it's just you know we don't want to next to the pathways for sure where snow is going to get pushed because it does break apart when it gets that is in quite a bit of that's invasive and we want to you know as part of the vegetation management plan remove some of that and keep it cut back is there any doubt with japanese knotweed i  previously and it would really only make sense if you were incorporating lawn at least partially in the area in front of the school i think otherwise it would be an extension of that probably one of the sidewalk here people are getting access to maybe more so this is not a planting plan this is really a diagram to talk about ratios of plant to usable space in that we would come back with a planting plan to show how these plants are located in groups but how usable do you want the space is does it make sense to have any groupings at all of these these understorey plants i think that's like that's like step back even further does it make sense that this is an extension of the park in other words does to me like the idea of that line a demarcation between what we just talked about a little while ago and something that's different character or should it just be all things for the density of the planting is kind of the counterbalance of the grove that we had over here which is very formal and this being informal both of those two masses of vegetation were intended to really extend the geometry of the building out into the landscape so i think that's a consideration as well in terms that could be achieved with just trees that's why we're showing the lawn as an option and that makes the ground plane completely usable i don't like i have the hardest time growing brush under my trees for sure so you go get the shade tolerant fescue this will do ok i mean if you're familiar with not not within the landscape know in the furnishings as a whole nother topic in terms of how those are located mostly around entrances to the building can i just ask just to reinforce the walkway narrowed that down to twelve feet with a four foot wide stabilized edge on both sides to achieve the twenty foot  yeah the materials was a whole another slide that showed the hierarchy of where we're using different types of payments with the area along the south of the building being you know pavers the this area being a combination of different finishes on colored cast in place concrete at the entrances and then the uncolored concrete was on the extensions away from the building so that there was closer to the building where higher finishes and further away were and what i think joe just mentioned maybe is you were thinking this past might have a different character being it's extending through a different road it's doing something different here just a different experience just for that area to sort of think about are plan where that would go and how to sequence that in construction you show me with the intergenerational interact with this site these days when it really hugs the pond fairly closely it comes up and joins this intersection here because this is elevated but then it goes back down along the pond edge were at the last meeting you were right that they are rethinking portions of that given our proximity of the multi modal path that maybe if it ends up being one along that for a fact so it would rise up and join this along on the section of never thinking maybe within that paving we have a character that shows a smaller pathway of maybe color texture that lets it weave organically through there come back and connect on the other side so concerns about that so i think that in other airlines or central thumbs up or down or midway is whether or not it's law and or some type of ground cover we have heard that it is it wants to be an extension of the pause which went through this process of considering different fixtures are showing you three different families right now but their red dots are the pedestrian fixtures the blue dots are the ones in the vehicular applications so just st and foremost do we think it's having meetings at the high school we certainly had them through january and february it was horrible if we left after three hundred and thirty you couldn't see and i could see kids leaving the middle school door but walking down the front down down the fire lane why summary of lighting on the campus on the outside to understand how the building is is presented versus what the site lighting was to be maybe this is a good yeah let me let me do let me just do a quick overview because i think you're starting to touch on a lot of issues you know st of all there's a lot of lighting in this project their site lighting there's lighting around the building and then these are the tear and all that selling it's very energy efficient yes all very energy efficient the design see pictures but so if i just kind of run through some of this i think we can start to address some of the comments that we've already started to talk about kind of burma and this is mostly can be about site today we're eventually going to get into kind of building interiors  forward to start scratch surface on the building a little bit from a planning point of view as you've already started to pick up the red dots and it looks like a lot of lights but right now these are just symbols but this shows the approximate spacing and so forth but from a planning point of view it's the red dots are really trying to reinforce the desire lines in the pedestrian movement that we've been talking about so it's a reinforcement loops it's a reinforcement of what's going on in the landscape but it's primarily pedestrian movement and those times when it gets and it's mostly when it gets dark and so forth but it really reinforces those desire lines in the pedestrian movement the blue then is for the parking and the movement of lights that kind of reinforce this new movement to kind of bring scale to the project and that kind of a certain amount of scale and then there's all and then there's another opportunity for what we do with the entries so the reds pedestrian movement the blues cars and then we have our kind of high school in tree middle school in tree and then the central dining area and so those start to become the gateways of the kind of entries into kind of our interior street and we're not really presenting that today but the the thing is we do want to look at well for example what brooks talking about like there's photometric calculations where they run the calculations so we know what the light level is kind of at the ground and we owe that to the planning board yeah i mean it they definitely need a summary of meeting the requirements for for different parts of lighting on the site spillage can you explain what that is also about the perimeter and porfiry not being able to see light source and that sort of thing yes these are full cutoff fixtures meaning that no light is projected of a horizontal plane from the fixture and the ones that are along the property line if and when the photo metrics are which are in the works are run if they show any light moving across the property line which is considered light trespass we can just simply put shields on the fixtures on those sides to make sure that they're compliant so even though there's a few of those blue fixtures that are close to the property line on the north edge of the site those can be fully shielded so that they're only throwing light on to the site not over the m t a tracks these are what they call black sky dark s which is the full cutoff only down oriented lighter in the case of some upward reflective light none of the light passes by the shield are jumping ahead like pollution is eliminated on the site correct before you go i know this with the focus of getting them to walk that path needs to have some type of red dots right here that yeah yeah that that should be addressed right ok and then in from the student body  athlete that is on the far left the west are there any plans for where the with where the path goes of the other side of the football field maybe you haven't addressed it yet but we're on the softball field on the point of view the other thing is the lighting on this edge of the pond which is it's really about reinforcing that kind of sweet kind of from hitting ger to concord so we think it's a nice idea to have a continuous kind of a static we've looked at three different designs and we've looked at what works for pedestrian versus what works for the car there's a basic that the two types of pictures we will have other things may be is there's a little there's a lens here but it's it has a the lens that diffuses the light that kind of brings it down but the idea oh with all the ones that we're looking at to look at something that's complimentary to the building is that it's kind of omni directional it's kind of a three hundred and sixty degree lights which spreads it evenly all the way around and then looking it at or around type a pole design something it would tie to the building if you remember in the building design with all the public spaces for the street through the middle we have kind of around this kind of a static there and then the idea with the color is it might be kind of a dark gray we probably wouldn't go black but come amid the dark gray which might work with the one million colors and the column covers and the dark granite and colors that we have to base so be a complimentary gray that works with those elements of the building so this is the st and because we're required to have kind of three equals from a cost point of view we looked at three other this is this is a little different what's interesting about this is the like the flex off of a reflector so it goes up and diffuses as an indirect so you're not looking as much as the light source but it it lights the service and then bounces back down and so this is a little more of a desk probably a little crisper but the idea is the same idea that we would have a round round pole for that and it would again be in that same kind of height  that we talked about and then the rd one is maybe even a little simpler where rather than the four post of the pose a little simpler and then it has kind of two prongs and so the four prongs but again it's a disk with more of an indirect source as opposed the st one had all the more of a direct source and you could kill those and direct the light is that the idea with the these don't tell are these are just cutting even there are ones that detail this is really a three hundred and sixty degree even lighting strategy that i just worry that it might not be a story you know i like the idea of it i just would prefer see something a little sturdier ok you have got to the st one the st ones out and and there are other options we've started to kind of i think with most of these we looked at kind of a disco around with i heard it's i think it's fair i would say it's some sort of bit of contemporary look which our building does play off with traditional materials still the brick and so forth but  gray so and then the column covers are all around you know so they're around and they're great they're like a gray like a dark gray so it's time to though it's time to all those elements in the glass and metal because it is made of metal and not and not the br and because of cost i think we also have to be told over here was for a year that we have to recognize that we may never get the speakers where the public bid process and the or equal or three equal these to be always considered so when we choose something more select something we want to get something that has a family but we really get it and some ways what we're showing here to be open about is this kind of on the same family and i visit all the listed as equals and depending on what the your that was three letters so yeah it was hearing what i'm hearing from a general but obviously it is that of where might be to the needle maybe going too far off of the traditional  clearly we've embraced a somewhat contemporary or or christie lines of the building but this might be too far to the right or to off off the mark so maybe we could pull back a little and see if there are some other options when you go you know we can definitely do that because we started as a team we looked at like six or seven so we can bring some of those back to the table i think just to brooks's point our strategy would be simple you know something that seems to go with a building maybe a little more sturdy but then i think something that has a tendency to kind of disappear a little more because when it when they are more decorative or kind of figure old they kind of your attention is drawn to them a little more so the darker watertown playground they've installed a new parking into the park area and you know those those lights actually did you get the part about the parking lights look very similar to what you're going to see but they have a smaller package over each one of i don't know how those the lights that you were they there that litter the very low light thing as expected when you walk under it this sense of did go on so in the middle of the night it could be very low and i've been in the school that i live behind when i go out and walk the p want to be part of the future of the buildings the building is not what you want to be the feature so i just want to make sure that this sturdy and the day they have just enough light for folks to use it at night but not to overcome the building or overcome the the space to keep it simple and minimal i  that we want to go to the next one we looked at three different ones so there is one that's you know a little softer were kind of rounder edges and then the next one is kind of a little more crisp again it's on a round so so then if if if you want to go to the next news that you different ones freestanding ones all mounted on the street so this is what i was looking for so so then we took the street and that would be located here this is hidden ger underwood intersection at this point right here and we're just basically showing you the backstop and sealed area to help you understand the detail in this area we had originally shown this  located over here and we felt that it's orientation to a secondary street rather than right now it's oriented towards concord avenue if you didn't really do it as just us with the fact that you know people will be using this from the school and this is the prominent entry point for every day athletes coming to the field we saw that that gate orientation was better over here and what we're showing is this is the  paving area we've got a couple of different ways we can reincorporate the morial bricks right now they're mounted to the wall behind the backstop and we could do that similar to this with like a knee wall  we're going to be using netting for the backstop here if you remember previously discussions about that we could put the bricks within the paving field itself and there's another possibility we just discussed that the the coping stone that would go on top of this wall could be leveled and the names could be engraved looking down like run on the top face of that double that of the coping i don't know if there's any thoughts with regard to that this is something i think we probably wan those engraved the other images that we're showing here are how we're into speeding treating the bleacher system which is shown in white here but the image is below we've got this image here which shows it stepping up and then stepping back down and this is kind of what it would look like facing the field with the three levels to it what's nice about it stepping up and back down is to provide the passive spectator the seating area facing the pond and it also eliminates the need to have a guard fence around it once you get up above thirty inches for your bench height which you want for spectator viewing you need to have a fence guard around the back side of it which is actually shown in this image over here to th is image were included just to show what the netting would look like if we have the post set back to high in the bleacher with the cable supporting so you basically have the two end post which would be here and here and then the to your post which would be here and here and the cable that supports the net follows this line but then these two tension cables are pulled back so that you have that unobstructed view from the spectator area out to the field without poles or chain link fence framework in the way it's a really nice camera that you know and then this is the base of the design dago shelter which is comparable in size to the existing dugout right now we have things away here that we'll have to work on before submission goes into planning for a monday night's discussion planting discussion thank you guys this was a great feedback from the building videos of a few of you left i want to take the last five minutes or four minutes from my two hour duration and just show you the last piece on the agenda which is which is west of the westfield study that we had  call your attention to this which is this is the west hills as we see it today and this is what chris just commented on a little while ago what you do with the fields over there and highlighting that so forth so this is where we push the pause button with to walk you through that quickly now this is the existing rink the premise might be that that rink stays in place while other things happen on the site until such time as there's new ice in that comes down course if next week that ice rink went down permanently then that changes the story of tire lee but that's how we started with this review the next like here is of a configuration that keeps that ice in place you could see the white dot and this is not too much different has three fields you see those three all blow up we have a varsity varsity g t field we have a varsity i'm sorry we have a j v baseball field a j v softball field and a soccer field  offseason laid out in between those along with javelin and shop what areas are going to go back to this this cannot provide those three fields if it does we wouldn't be able get parking which is a necessity see a see here  there's parking that we've allocated to the west harris field in our overall parking plan that superintendent feeling has talked about for students this is not stop parking this is the student parking and there is ample parking for students ample parking probably to operate this ice facility during student during school time with some use still of that facility and then two feels left  time so the idea here is just to look at variations this is not a design by the building committee this is only for the sites and what's carved out for other things because the building committee is responsible to get these playing field put back together in some way superintend failing patrice they are working on that hole with a so i mean what is it the are you going to say the more constraint you put in our feet the harder it is to get responses that are favorable so keeping it somewhat loose but tightening it up to meet the  town's expectation this will be information that they could take from this presentation back to as they work on the or a fee to see what's appropriate but we're not making a decision here neither one of the slide show a southern route to the keep the  create some challenges for again it cut as cost of the project but you could build the phase one half sheet here then you could take the ice rink down and build the phase two behind it as we know from our experience phasing cost money  but this is an option that then creates less of a presence on cocker to have kind of puts a plug in the middle of the whole field configuration it does add tennis opportunities back you can see here and it doesn't happen parking it it's still cannot fit three feels it doesn't fit three fields and parking lots that's been tried baseball it's not on our si it would have to be somewhere else in town yes but leave it at that hopefully somewhere convenient this is an interesting discussion and it does start to give you some benefit you could build phase plus spaces out of this and you get three fields back ok so here you the the j v baseball field stays in place the j v softball fields days in place there's overlap not ideal but that's what we had in our plan and the soccer field is in there so this gives it all like that one so no tennis court currently don't have so it's good keep in mind right now if we went back to what we have today we don't have tennis courts on the site and you know be nice to get them back even one or two  but it's a balance of all these and and certainly could parking is a challenge too but i'll just move on to something else i want to show you so so here is another option and this is unique but it actually starts to really high the whole greenery together and makes use of a space that's not very convenient for fields which is behind the gas station so now you could build this entirely as a new  pulls the building away from concord out of which if you start to look at all of concord out putting a building on concrete have over here really is going to change the landscape so keeping the greenery unconquered out really is a benefit to the court or the eye to the new library likely will be encroaching on concrete out more than it does today but it ends right here so the rest of this the underwood pool beautiful open space here the residences are not imposing the building for an ice sheet we're told is about thirty feet to the roof so it's about the size of a full two story house and and you know it's it's has a lot of nasty right so it's a good example would be very very go right by there again you can see we keep softball we keep baseball we keep soccer in l a gets very and you know not all the fields are in the ideal location but this is ok still the school department is amenable to this and it gives us the parking  you know chris asked well where is that link between students and in the fields you know this might be on the southern route versus others that might be on an order that hasn't been worked into the ship fields and i'd argue we can get five tennis courts back for a full tennis program this only shows four but we could be creative in parking this is this is plenty of parking we don't need one hundred and twenty spaces so we make cargo twenty spaces mean what we're doing right now is saying that we are allocating about ninety spaces to this side for student parking and then whatever the ice rink solution will need while students are parked there you know for a day program which isn't going to be a lot of so that maybe ten or twenty so so that's so that's all i have to present on this but that was a nice segue so this is you know this is a big smile but the more you cram on here you know the more challenging it is this is only a single ice sheet but maybe this is the best solution for belmont because it gets everything in and you know who knows how they are a fee for osas goes to this is maybe just the belmont and solution  o i have one of the think bob asked the question so here we go so this was discussed last night it was discussed so we met with folks from the community path and we have been looking at this whole issue of can the community path live on the south side of the tracks and what does it mean to our school what we found and correct me john if this was presented differently but we had a staff meeting as well is that the community path does it need to be on the property our project is on belmont property right the property line but there is there is space albeit getting pretty tight but meeting the minimum requirements to put a pathway the south side of the tracks here there is a challenge right here in that there is a control house in there and that path would have to meander back onto our property and back off so it's not ideal north of the tracks vince from the community group tells me there's seventy feet so you could see what other opportunities there are as far as fit it's a different feel thirty feet means you're at the minimum to the trains you are at the trains when they sit by you there's not much of a barrier between but a fence there's not foliage there on the other side would seventy feet there are other layers that get into that but we're looking at our site that the report back is that they there is not a can there is not an impact right now direct impact to our pinch point back here with the solution but it's you know it's putting the community path closer to the tracks but there is no other option here because we were talking and it could work it could live there so that's the report that i can give you four