account number again now for a fourth time did it by four four one six seven two and all these i can give to sex to the record but that's all i really understood back number change for time and really what we'd like when you're going to do is you're going to present to us what evidence there is to show that his intention was to way keep this in the trust is this what this is all about this is exactly what it's all about so during the  six one one five nine name and then maybe get a sense of net account for the benefit of these poor people so to effect it yet then on the advice  general discussions with them she's in her ninety nine he's right now at the time she was making some suggestions of having some conversation with them but before never actually made any agreement with her whatsoever she sent them back thirty thousand dollar see and understand who are these people what kind of life they lead they lived a life a period before mine this is a brother and a sister lived together their whole life before that lived with their parents never neither of them ever got married neither of them ever had any children when you look at the trust what does irwin do he has a list of twenty six people that he wants to leave things to  that into the trust and he says well the trust has to pay for that so i want my sister to be taken care of the overriding consideration of this trust has to be i'm not going to put my sister on the street what is it what the archivist the council makes if you read it his way as he as he just counsel just said in answer to your honor's question is that everyone gets nothing because they have a specific request that could not have been condo maintenance expenses assessments twenty six people of that irwin specifically wanted to give gifts to get nothing doesn't make sense a person doesn't write i'm leaving things twenty six people and i'm leaving things to my sister that i've lived my whole life and i really have in mind to good leave them nothing that doesn't make any sense so the next question is what really happened here i think that one of the things the big council said about the the change in the account being some kind of a bookkeeping change completely not supported by what occurred here is there was an account which was a told him that trust accounts in our in our in our bookkeeping system you must create a new account and a new account will create a new number that that was i mean that was their idea and  believe it was their idea but he was aware of the change of the number he signed things and documents to change the number wasn't like he didn't know that the number would change there was a tweet there was a twenty one month period ok where th evidence is that irwin was a sharp as a tack that he knew the number was changed by his own conduct by him signing in opening a new number of new account number and he does nothing no one specifically told got want this number through a new but which come brokerage account brokerage company told him we're changing the we're changing the numbers we're putting into the trust account the trust number what he could have done if he so chose over a twenty one month period is go back to the attorney and say hey we got to do something different on my trust because i specifically told you to bet number he doesn't do that why he doesn't do that i can only speculate but one possibility clearly is i think is the appellate court if you're looking at the attack intent of her one thing we know which is undisputed is there was specifically wanted that particular number and the scheme of the trust as it's written doesn't work without this attempt because if you if you don't have this adoption then you would have had the demolition by the other twenty six people and bernice and that wouldn't have made sense either doesn't the could be another trust number he could have changed his mind or he could have understood that he was getting nothing my personal opinion which i don't know that it's that it's relevant but one possibility is is that he only intended to leave them half he could have he could have thought that bernice and i are joint owners i can only leave my half and maybe he was thinking he's a leave them half and when he's finally understanding that oh it's going to all go into the trust it could have been that he specifically said you know what that's ok with me i don't want my sister to be left in the cold and as i said before there's no other way for the trust to work if when you look the these are just favored we don't have a forfeiture here we have someone who specifically waited twenty one months before making a claim and they took one hundred twenty thousand dollars for themselves and and i sent them a check for thirty thousand dollars some of them call up and say thank you none of them are calling up and saying hey bernice i got a thirty where's the rest meant million doesn't make sense these people knew exactly what they were doing election and what one one one one issue which i think is apparent from the record is what they were really hoping for is that bernice being ninety something would pass away that would improper result two is to deny the adamsson which would now cause permeates to all money back or to have to return to them money which he paid to the charities which are all paid in good faith knowing that she's following the trust directions which specifically says they give a certain trust number and she followed up to check what was in that trust trust account number and the answer was by mr lazar the account was opened with a zero balance she did what she was supposed to do was pay very interesting case and we'll take it under advisement