just like to say it's nice to see so many people in the audience today and we're going to move straight away to the celebration of excellen in the april guide to western pennsylvania schools the pittsburgh business times profiled area school districts to determine how they compare to others in the area and across the state peter township was ranked seventh among more than one hundred districts in our region for the fourth consecutive year among the nearly five hundred school districts in the commonwealth of pennsylvania peter township also remained fifteenth overall additional rankings for our schools are listed above twenty six students from peter's township high school took part in the pennsylvania junior cademy of science competition that is designed to stimulate and promote interest in science to research projects and investigations listed above are eighteen of the competing students who are in first place honors the also congratulate three of our first awardees for their perfect scores in the competition students who earned first place awards in the p j s competition were also eligible to interview for a p a science talent search scholarship to the school of his or her choice congratulations to the senior bob who earned a five hundred dollars scholarship award township media department had a great day at the robert morris university teacher of video and television awards on april ninth the students walked away with awards and nine categories more than thirty students were honored for their work on these projects congratulations to the high school math team above who represented peter's township high school in movies make a math challenge twenty fifteen and have advance of the second round of competition the challenge presents students with a real world problem entirely unknown until they download on the morning of their scheduled day and they must submit a solution paper by nine pm the same night the team is coached by math teacher student canfield on march seventeenth burials students celebrated gopher greens day a statewide celebration of green fruits vegetables supported by penn state hershey students were green in one courage to bring in green vegetables for fruit or snack three teams of students from peter's township high school took part in the tests of engineering aptitude mathematics and science competition the challenges students to work collaboratively as they solve real everyday engineering problems congratulations to the team above who placed the regional level in addition the other peter's township teams took second place in both of our city and junior varsity levels it's graduation to the western area career in technology students who've been named to the honor roll for the third nine weeks the names of those students on the high honor roll and honor roll are listed above the peters township high school science and libya team recently are into fifth place in the regional competition and will now move on to the state level the members of the team are listed above the science olympiad includes a series of events pertaining to various sci including earth sciences biology chemistry physics robotics and engineering excellence in the arts congratulations of the high school music department who returned home from orlando last week with trophies in hand several of our music ensembles competed in disney over that weekend and came home with grand champion the wards for overall high school instrumental symbolic choir high last month second graders about oreo share their knowledge of dinosaurs along with their musical speaking and artistic talents during gonna start second grade musical fellow second graders from pleasant valley presented the rock in the rain forest or students shared informative facts about the rain forest and our environment along with musical selections from each classroom the blue aces members of the u s air force heritage band from langley air force base visited the high school in march they performed for the music department students and had a question answer session following that performance in addition to performing for our troops overseas the band performs for schools and at military functions congratulations to the boys lacrosse team who is currently ranked second in the w p i a l with the undefeated section records an overall record of seven wins and two losses graduations and good luck to the two members of the boys tennis team above who took second place in the section doubles tournament and qualified for the w p i l tennis doubles this month marks the first tuxedo tuesday a pleasant valley the invent reinforce the buildings and i believe things students and staff showed off their fanciest attire the cafeteria was turned into restaurants and students were reminded to show good manners and respect gitmo school took a hard walk during homeroom this month to support the american heart association and heart health awareness students and staff donated to the organization and have the opportunity to create signs to post in a school in honor of someone they were walking for many thanks to mr compadre and the high school safety who held their annual campus cleanup day and remove trash and debris from the creek in the front of the high school all the way to the top of p v fields in the surrounding area later this month the club will team up with the environmental club for the canned berkeley cleanup effort congratulations to the individuals above from our district in community who were honored at the annual spring character counts recognition awards this month they were nominated by others for example find the traits of respect responsibility and honesty excellence in leadership it's throughout the month staff members throughout the district have taken part in training for the newly adopted alice method of school safety the high school media team is currently working on creating an instructional video  can be used to share this training with students at the middle and high school level more information about this new program may be found on the district web site congratulations to business manager menthol thick who is recognized at the intermediate unit annual convention for his twenty years of service to districts in the region thank you to the p t a you organize your annual used book in media sale this month and raise approximately three thousand dollars the funds will now be given back to the district in a reading program grants for our place saying none there will be an opportunity later on we did have executive sessions on march sixteenth twenty third and immediately prior prior to this meeting with the various negotiation in litigation as well as some other miscellaneous personal items we were discussing moving on to all business do we have a motion for the item presented it's been moved and seconded is there any we have a couple of motions that need to be presented district and i suggested that we have the cyber charter as well as the next one which we'll talk about but i just wanted to discuss a little bit about the resolution  basically the cyber charter resolution reveals the fact that the district has to pay tuition for every student in peter's township who wishes to ten a cyber or charter school so right now our district pays eight thousand six hundred dollars a year for any peters township resident who could be going to peter to peter's township by chooses to go to a cyber charter school and most districts like ours have spattering students in each grade level attending so that there's really no cost savings to the districts with ability to save on teachers or space or books and we had forty seven students during the two thousand and fourteen fifteen school choose the school year choose to go to cyber charter schools so the resolution states that in the past eight years two point nine million dollars of our taxpayer funds that could have been used to help improve the education of peter's township students was actually used to pay cyber charter school tuition and the most important thing disappointing thing that the real resolution states is when you compare the s p p score from our district to these cyber cyber charter schools and if you don't know what the s p p is the department of education uses all sorts of data including p s a scores and growth of scores and attendance and s a t s scores and graduation rates all kinds of data to come up with an ass p p score and the scores range up to  hundred plus you could get some bonus points and the resolution states that when you compare our district s p p scores which if you average every one of our buildings scores it comes out to a ninety four point two six with the s p p s of the cyber charter schools where peter's township students residents are actually attending and for which we had to pay tuition for  peace corps average the ninety four point two six and the s p p scores of the cyber schools range from a low of forty two point four to a high of sixty six so if you vote in favor of this resolution we are asking legislators to support legislation to correct the amount of to wish that we have to pay to these schools  to make sure that there are more in line with the cost of cyber schools since it costs less to run a cyber school than a brick and mortar school but it also went further and this was not in the p p s b a resolution but i thought it was particularly apropos in our situation is to ask the legislators to actually eliminate a district saw obligation to pay cyber charter tuition when the home district demonstrates exemplary academic performance as our district does so if you do vote in favor of that resolution of this resolution that's what you would be asking to say we have any questions from  have a question but i just wanted to make a comment if i if i understood dr french earlier there are copies of this information that mrs anderson was describing here for the public is that so anybody who wants a copy of it please feel free in floors open for the next motion filmmaker recommendation to consider a motion to approve the resolution urging legislative action on school employee pension reform second removed and second the floor is open for discussion is anderson would you like to guess i could present this resolution this resolution recognizes the alarming rate that districts pension obligations are increasing so next year it provides that for every dollar of salary that we pay to participants of the pension plan we have to send an additional twenty want twenty six cents us twenty six cents to the retirement fund and that obligation is go increase so that in two thousand and nineteen two thousand and twenty school year our obligation would be a thirty two point two three percent contribution to the pension fund for salaries  resolution recognizes that from the fifteen schools sixteen school year to the nineteen twenty school year just the increases alone that this district will have to pay for increases only in pension contributions is almost two point four million dollars the resolution recognizes that the increase in the projected savings or additional revenue that the governor's proposed budget will provide to peters township district is small it's about two hundred twenty two thousand we think maximum while our pension increases just the increase alone our contribution will increase by eight hundred sixty three thousand dollars the resolution recognizes that in the past five years the district has spent over twenty million dollars more on special education programs then we have received in state funding and the resolution states that it's an unreasonable burden on our  taxpayers when there's no projected savings in the budgets and the prospective governor's budget you've heard that there's going to be a reduction in property taxes but peters township is only supposed to get fifteen point nine percent reduction in taxes the resolution further states that this is an acceptable specifically for peters township because we are a conservative spending district that in two thousand and twelve and thirteen only twenty three districts in this state spent last purse didn't than we did and we operate at high academic achievement and then lastly the resolution recognizes that we do have a fine balance but if we were to use that fund balance just pay increases in the pension that that fund balance would be depleted by mid two thousand and seventeen so if you vote in favor of this resolution you're asking for the legislative reform of the current pension so that the employer contributions would decrease while maintaining an appropriate benefit for school oppose no motion care does anyone have any other new business or like to bring up ok moving on to business office we have a motion that would be required first we would have personnel mr dudley thank you recommendation consider a motion to create the position assistant athletic director so moved it's been moved and seconded is there any discussion is there any public comment oh i'm sorry i was reaching for my button but at the committee meeting i was on the road and participate in by phone sort of where you say i was in listening carefully to the presentation with the exception of training it sounded to me as the description was for an administrative assistant and i know that there had been previous discussion about the fact that we now have these training modules that need to be taken you know done with all of the coaches and so on but those things are available in a video format so we don't actually need a person to do that thing but everything else that was on the list that was in the draft job description that we received those look like administrative tasks to me not not professional level or managerial level tasks and so consequently when the time comes i will vote against  to your point mrs bowman the position the state is requiring coaches excuse me coaching certification we have a window between july first two thousand and sixteen and  june thirtieth two thousand and eighteen to get all of our coaches certified this is this is classroom type stuff we can not use the models as we can with concussion and cardiac you actually have to have physical somebody come in and  give this one the reasons why this position we looked at as being administrative was that person can do that and probably open up our district as a site for other people and we can possibly make some money off of  teaching the education classes and mr bowman just to further the point as was said at the meeting that night a this would be a income generating source for the district in the long run which is a very positive thing and b as one who's had to sit through the modules what you're talking  and sometimes it's a teacher and sometimes i think there's another individual that maybe acts or to have as an assistant now that you call on with this person take that place so that they would be physically at the games like point would not need those people anymore well we would still need those people with the amount of games that we have but where we see the same as would be at the middle school where we can have this person actually go and run middle school events which is a cost to us now envision this disposition to be more of a daytime thing with those middle school hours as opposed to the evening things with the coverage that we have and the amount of people that we need for coverages what we have in the evening i feel works well for us and one other thing mrs bowman i don't know if you got the handouts that that were presented at that meeting well one thing that i've looked positively upon it is a breakdown of what this particular person would do and what we could eliminate within the department and i think how much of the salary was it oh it was a very small part of the salary that would be covered by the savings we took the secretary of the athletic department made her part time to full time i also looked at the explanations for what is needed and i understand brian that what you need with the concussion and keeping information on all of this but i cannot rationalize a forty thousand dollars position right now i think as a way we can discuss other things that can be done to help in that i think clarify didn't you just say that with the consolidating the other positions that the forty thousand dollar expenditure was actually closer to seventy five hundred was right joined correct we've made about thirty two thousand plus in cuts with our department with personnel to to get this number words were very small as opposed to the forty thousand off the bat and mrs gregg i would point that out as a very significant piece to adding this position is what mr geiger said we're only talking about adding a seven thousand dollars to seventy five hundred dollars expense to the district with the savings in the cutting of other positions that are currently being paid for which will now go towards this position and i think his presentation at the committee meeting was very thorough in the fact that there are things like a quick mint that is handled by multiple people that now would be brought underneath a single person and i think we can't discount those things i mean i think those things really matter when it comes to the day to day management of this stuff and  the board we sit here make these decisions and for me seventy five hundred dollars seems like a reasonable amount of money to be able to provide a a larger cushion for us when it comes to mitigating loss and lawsuits and be making the job of managing these programs i want to say easier for probably more efficient and more effective so thank you i want to clarify i don't disagree at all that mr dreier needs assistance i merely questioning th like any other discussion from the board on the side only because i i want to add that i i see other positions that also need assistance right now so i think i do think it's a board we need to discuss some of those positions to at this point in time that's why i'm just not one hundred percent feeling good about approving this right now until we have further discussion on other possible h r i think could use some help i think our special  department can use help so i just am not one hundred percent behind the mrs gregg you're saying that these other positions which i'm not disagreeing with you whether we need those and i actually agree with you but i don't think those issues apply to what we're doing here we're dealing with a specific issue that's on our table today the night that's that's on that's on our plate those are the positions you're talking about i don't believe as looking at the finances i don't believe have anywhere near the savings that mr geir has been able to achieve in eliminating other positions and so while i don't disagree with the principle i think it's it's not totally fair to make the claim that this is apples to apples to maybe adding h r assistance or special education assistance when in fact i'm not certain that those two areas wh you've rightly highlighted as potential areas have the ability to receive savings in cutting other positions to achieve a minimal cost to the district and i would hate to see this position not be created because of those reasons when in fact when we talk about seven to seven seven five hundred dollars so i would urge all the board members to understand the totality of this and not just look at this as an individual isolated incident i have a question for mister the when you say you've made the cut to other positions to come up with this total cost have you actually spoken to people who have those jobs now and told them they're not going to have them for next year or these theoretical cuts in your budget that you're proposing these would be based off of the vote tonight five yes and four to five into ok so motion carried ok along with that would be the next motion recommendation to consider the motion to prove the following job description for as system athletic director think we have a second second to mood second the floor is open for discussion that we've put in there that there is training for the yes program i think that's important there hasn't been a whole lot happening for character counts in sports can we add that that i want to make sure it's covered so i don't i haven't looked at the actual athletic director's job description i don't know if it's in there or not we can add to this and perhaps even be clarified under others signed duties by thing to make it more because i wouldn't want to place that on just the assistant athletic director if there's a scheduling problem it would allow the i'd like to have a presence there is that your point i don't know i don't know if it's under the job description for athletic director i haven't looked at a recent one saying i want to be i wan so somebody for either him or this new newly acquired person would represent yes i think it's something that we have a yes resolution i think we have to bring it into our sports program this is greg is it is it always do you think yes would ever is yes yes yes yes yes at may i ask if you would consider making a motion to approve all the recommendations unless someone wants to pull out one that would be fabulous and could we could we ask questions about them like to be pulled out to vote on separately moment i would just point out that that would take another motion to pull out any specific ones i'm sure you know we've all kind of gone we've gone over all of these and i was not i had a couple questions about them but i don't anticipate most of the time it's written in a way that it says going out for bid or looking at it so we'd have another opportunity to actually vote on it so i'll have a couple questions but i don't anticipate anything couple questions one of my questions was about number eighteen and let me make sure it's eighteen on this one and i just so it's just soliciting proposals i'm guessing we would have a vote when it actually goes to purchase but do you know are the cafeteria tables in bad condition of the high school  t i was asked by mr bell sic to meet with a vendor and the staff there by the tables and chairs there are tables that have bellowing centers to them there's there's damage to those and then the chairs themselves are not stackable this creates quite a task for the custody and it's there in the evening every day those chairs all three hundred seventy five of them must be picked up mopped underneath put placed on the table and then the next shift put them down it's a very time consuming tedious task of lifting and placing them back on the floor also that there are chairs that are missing there are broken chairs there were there is an opportunity to do repairs understanding at these tables and chairs were purchased in the two thousand and renovation project so the of the tables when i drive by but i just know i've been another high schools too and seen the affixed chairs you know underneath and it makes it so much easier to clean and whatnot are those a part of the request proposal yes starting we had a vendor come in and we had to design layouts gave her the drawing and we're looking at all rounds with fixed seats attached or combination of rounds and rectangular set for the area and this would also increase the seating capacity of  cafeteria itself the high school in and as a caveat to the mcmurry school miss anderson those are my understanding they were brought from the elm grove school to mcmurry school when it was built so they are in excess of thirty years old there's a lot of laminates and repairs needed to those also as a former parent i would also toss in that they have a whole bunch of rough edges that clothing and you come home with parts of clothing look into elevated bleachers where we had the first four foot of cycling fence around the field the idea was to bring the spectators up above that and once we bring them up of above that we would want to place a fence increase the elevation of the existing sod law i was asked by a council member to look at their arm the concrete slabs around the p v facility are very in very good she can dish it but they have shifted up or down and i brought a contractor in who does this type of work instead of replacing those he will drill and elevate those and bring those all to a level playing a plateau too to allow travel over his eyes and ears and it might help to know that the name of the company is actually a one concrete leveling ok recommended by the few vendors that i've had here that this is a proprietary type of system that not every concrete masonry company would do they would just redo the whole thing at a higher cost and yes th much higher cost estimated would be at least six to seven times that cost ok and it didn't make sense to take out good concrete slabs that were not cracked or broken and i appreciate that and the last question is on number twenty five and vendors who provide us one vendor provides us with services for our boilers preventative maintenance another one provides preventative maintenance far your condition and then we have another vendor who provides d v c control what i was looking into was to see if we could consolidate those services to do some exploratory pricing and to see if that was it it may not be a good idea but it was something that i wanted permission to venture into and i just say mr mcmurray i'm thrilled to see many of these including the mcmurry projects on our docket i think it's critically important that we understand that these things have to be done in the public understand that we're being proactive here rather than reactive so i compliment you mr gul isn't it the intent that instead of being behind the eight ball like last year you wanted to have the belief drives have this all presidents that can be discussed right ahead plus one of the reasons why we did a bond issue to provide us the capital to be able to do capital projects yes yes would i would i well let me present the reason i asked that is i'm assuming we're going to be having buildings grounds committees to discuss these items in more depth after you receive the information some of them i've already many of them i've already done plenary work on just to see where they fell and what categories so it's a matter of some of them will have to be listed in the newspaper for advertisement and bed for dollar values over the max and maximum allowable bidding process others will fall into another category below that where i can seat three bids and others will be in a category where it will be up to the board to just yes or no well i guess those are looking at timing also just to make sure that we get everything we need to get done so that over the summer this all gets completed just for clarity especially for people who are watching on t v the first thirteen are the contractors have an availability to do that this summer ok and i guess that's our challenge is that we don't fall behind that we keep this stuff all moving as best we can yes ok so you won't have anything else they like to bring up on  these recommendations on these motions oh good or not any public comment on all these items going thank you we have an education committee meeting on monday march twenty third and then i'll move on to the recommendation consider a motion to approve the resolution of the peters township school district altering academic place great value on our related arts and make sure that they're embedded within the school day so this resolution is just the the final piece of that puzzle will be really bringing the ensembles in the music back into the school day and developing a block thank you mr hardy dr already the funniest post if i ask you many meeting was held on monday april thirteenth presenting the budget as it has been upped to date and further work will be done in the  fifteen where we discussed each of the policies on the list this includes a first read of all the two hundred policies and one of the eight hundred policies these are all posted on the website so if anybody is seeing this as a recording if you go online and you don't like a provision of a policy you would come back in at the june regular voting meaning that's when these policies will go up for the second read i have a copy this would be the time now if you've read through the policies and you'd like any changes i found a couple additional ones since the committee meeting that i would like to raise first board members you should have a little packet in front of you what dr murphy did w she actually went through and made redline the changes so you would see how it actually looked the discussion of the first one is to zero nine point one under food allergy management and if you go to page three of that policy and look at number five which is at the bottom of the page it this provision addresses students with special dietary needs and it provides the food or choice of foods that must be provided as the substitute and i am suggesting to change the word mosse to the word can so that the district isn't required to protect provide one particular type of substitute food but rather a choice of foods to substitute and then similarly on page four if you look have way down the page there's a number three that reads the food or choice of foods two to be substituted i wanted to change the word to t that can be substituted again i think it provides the district a little bit of flexibility so that it's mandated not to particular provide a a particular food by a choice of so i guess my question is does anybody have any comments about that those particular recommendations ok and if there's no board opposition to those is there well that's this is different one on page two there you see in the red yeah we would keep it as the leap the may and at the end of the sentence provide include after allergy when required and does anyone have any opposition to that change and is there any public comment with respect to that change raise is to twenty and if you go to page three of that provision and dr french i actually did not get to discuss whether this procedure is followed but what it requires is if students wish to distribute non school materials they have to submit to the building principal and get permission in advance and then it provides the principal shall forward a copy of the proposed non school material to the superintendent and my question was does that occur because if it does and we should probably strike that language i think we should get rid of it ok as it does not happen ok but dr french in all due respect the fact is this board hires you as a superintendent to be responsible for everything in the school district while i appreciate the fact that you want to be consistent with what this board has been driving towards which is to have policies that are followed i actually think that this should remain because it would be a very difficult thing to be the superintendent and to have a building principal approve something which you who is ultimately responsible for would disapprove of i get your point that it's not happening but maybe it's that it should happen and we should leave it in i'm certainly not going to make a fuss about it either way but if i'm sitting in your seat i would not want to be surprised with an approved posting by a principal that i didn't at least have the opportunity to see sheer number would likely require me to sit in my office and approve them  t would just and it would also from the time of posting from it to get to the principal then to get to me it wouldn't be practical what we can do for that assurance is alternately i am responsible for what the principals approve is that i can certainly we are making sure that our principals go through all of our policy we go through our expectations i don't want to have happen is that waiting for delays for me to sign off on it and the other thing is it also mean i will take responsibility if something does is it is down the pike that comes in again if it's taken out and i'm certainly not going to make a fuss about it but i would argue that it's not for approval the way the policy is written is simply that you have a copy of it and so i that's why i don't think it's a problem and i would say that if it's approval yeah your schedule based on does any one else have a preference or agree with dr hardy about not removing him and would rather dr french get them because i do and tell me if i'm wrong i would think that at this point it would be a consensus would it would go through as a first grade based on what the consensus of everyone would prefer so does anybody else you have to go one way does anyone mrs grey i honestly don't have a strong feeling about it i think it's fine to not to not have it in the ok so we have a consensus to remove it and then don't put that policy away because right in the next paragraph now this is where i would like the superintendent to be consulted and this is when non school materials contain what the principal things is on protected expression and denies the ability to post i would like to add the words after designee after consultation with the superintendent and the main reason i wanted to add that provision is because this is the kind of material in my opinion after reading cases and being law and news releases of cases this is what generates litigation when you try and limit the freedom of expression student groups and so at that point if a principal thought something was not appropriate to post because it was  not protected speech then i do think by bringing it to the superintendent may be more of an inclination to consult the superintendent and to ensure that that was a proper denial of the posting so does anybody have any opposition to that include i actually have an opposition to putting that in and it's for the very reasons that i spoke of previously and the reason for the reasons that i would state on this one is if we are going to give  the building principals the responsibility i don't want to have in a policy i want them to be able to come and consult with dr french at their at their will and desire and not require them to do it even if they have concerns i mean if she's going to trust them she's going to trust them and by making  putting this in there the way you've suggested it's forcing them to have to come when they have a a concern when in fact they can make a judgment call which they're making i don't based on what we just don't already they are making it on behalf of her already and so i am against putting this language in because i think it requires them to do it at this point when i think if she's going to trust them she's going to trust them and they're going to come and talk to her if they have a concern anyway so i would hope i would assume you know if you look on page four at the very bottom of number three there's actually provision in there already for an appeal to the superintendent if you don't like what the principal told you so i think you've actually got it already  k and then i would just ask the solicitor if on page four to the second to the last paragraph it says appeal of the review is decision may be made to the superintendent and then to the board in accordance with forward policy regulations do you think then that a student who was denied the right to post something would have to exhaust its administrative remedies like that before they would sue  lot of money spent within attorney initially trying to defend or diffuse the situation of you know disallowing the freedom and so i don't i would actually i don't know if i recommendation was appropriate and i would like to hear your opinion as to whether you think that that is what your recommendation would be for the language about concern having the principle have to consult with the superintendent before denial or do you think it wouldn't you know not result in money spent what i just didn't want is money spent on legal representation of a we also specifically added six days a submission for precisely that reason so there wouldn't be any of the my events tomorrow i have to post that's right that we cut that off so i that was one of the reasons that we put that in ok so is the consensus do not include the after comes consultation with the superintendent ok ok so then i will remove that recommendations of the only change to this would be striking the last  words first paragraph or are there any other comments to this to twenty and are there any comments from the audience or to twenty and the last one i'd like to raise is two twenty seven if you look on page three actually now if you look on a beach for of that right under reasonable suspicion testing we added the middle paragraph and so i would like to strike the first paragraph because the middle paragraph covers the same item is the end is the language that we wanted and i proposed to strike first paragraph i completely support that ok any other comments and any comments on the floor that change ok so are there any other comments on any particular policy that anyone would want to bring up for the first three having nothing from the board is there anything from the floor comments on the first read policies ok the only other thing that i wanted to give a heads up is at the next meeting and just make sure that i'm ready to do in an appropriate manner at the next meeting i am anticipating that i would make a motion to suspend a requirement in our current policy for the june voting meeting because we are anticipating at the june meeting all of the the whole every single policy is going to come up for a second read because we will have gone through all the first reads so we'll have over two hundred fifty policies on for second read on the june meeting and right now policy nine three four zero requires us to have a copy of all of those policies attached to the agenda so at the next meeting what i wanted to do was make a motion to suspend that portion of that policy so that the digital posting to the website because they're all posted to the website would be sufficient for the june meeting can i do that in advance so i'll make that motion next made voting meeting to suspend for june so when you come in may you will have every copy of the three hundred policies that we're going to put for first read in the may meeting but i'll also make a motion to suspend that policy for the  meeting because i just don't think that it's reasonable to attach two hundred fifty policies to the agenda ok so i will do that the next meeting i have nothing further thank you and thank you up if you've never done that before last year i went and it was really great it's like continuing legal education class but more geared away from lawyers and more towards the practical application of the cases and it is from one thirty to four forty five there and you can get actually free c l e p they give it to you for free so if you're available also on wednesday then the southwest region three you meeting is in call center p a s from six to eight and they are going to discuss the anatomy of a contract so those are two wonderfully exciting educational development programs that's all thank you if i ask in the past why they will never have the legal round up at night they always have a during the day whereas they have a lie the other ones in evening leaves out the opportunity for people who are unable to go during the day to go and i will say i was really impressed with that because some times i've gone to continuing legal education classes and when you're speaking to attorneys you don't necessarily get down to really the application of it you don't know how it's going to say you know that's really not going to occur because that's not going to happen  and it was it was really nice that these are attorneys who presented but they work for p s p a so they really see the application of the laws and how you're going  policy or how you how you act on a day to day basis when your school district fortunately a lot of board members don't get to attend right i'll try and bring back materials for you and or even just to make a stink  day which really doesn't affect peter's township actually were the only ones that don't i believe they don't use the academics at the western area but we're going to vote on eliminating academics at western area  and the port point of this the superintendents the board of do greet on this is to allow more technology time out at the tech school and that's really about it so i also serves the purpose of opening up morning class time is that correct well we are going to do that but i don't know if that would say that would help in that is right now i don't think they do technology in the morning because they do academics in the morning well did you know the next year we're going to have the students go both morning and afternoon i knew that was going to be an option next year but i thought this was wise i don't think so i think the main reason dr french you can say that the main reason is that we can free up some staff there and free up additional time for the c d courses and the the superintendent's felt that we can provide this academic services back home and then free up time in their schedules when they're actually at the c d c to engage in c d c activities is the guest speaker for high school students  be representing the district during the student for a student forms on april twenty fifth i'm attending the april twenty fourth session the twenty fifth i think dr french is that you and mrs pavlik yes and there may be others from my school joining as well is it too late for us to to go to that i don't i'm sure you're probably never too late i think we did miss the deadline but we could snag and certainly ask you which u convention last month rocky bleier was a speaker he gave a very interesting speech and that was pretty much the thing it was actually a different environment in cali you and it was  think overall good evening our next board will be meeting will be this thursday on the twenty third and that's the end of the report and will move on to superintend its agenda thank retirement and there was one particular individual that there affected date is different is that just because they need that time in order to get their certain number of years and yet so that they get to the individual can set their retirement date to coincide with age or other happenings  it's been moved to second to have any discussion i just wanted to raise that i don't i know that there are a lot of retirements in this agenda and you hate to pull one out by that i do think the lead custodian at pleasant valley harry anybody who's been through pleasant valley knows what a special man and he will be missed i'm guessing that he will be back as elvis for halloween at least i would anticipate because it would be a shame not to see him but i want to just send a special message and i thank you extra duty personnel programs items number one through eight so moved been moved and seconded is there any discussion mr mcnary i have a question regarding number one for mcmurray detention coordinator why is the effective date three six in is that accurate and if it is accurate why was this not brought on our last board meeting question number one in two and question three detention coordinator is an extra it is it is yes i'm just trying back to why that was not the first persons resignation was not on the on the last agenda right i mean you know my feeling about approving things that have happened a long time ago on this one though we really are if a person quits they may quit there's no further payment it would be different if we number two was retroactive and i  investigate why and i'm not sure they might have just been paired at the same time because we found a replacement for any other discussion i'm going to follow in his anderson's footsteps and single out a particular extra duty personnel person and that would be key compared to he handles phase which is the full spectrum of science extracurriculars up at the high school and you got an idea from the celebration of excellence kies in saying this time of year he just does a bang up job of coordinating all these competitions you saw the names come up over and over and over again he's balancing kids who are in seven or eight different competitions this time of year he just has a really spectacular job juggling all those balls like any other com i'm going to defer to mrs bowman how we it does go up and down over there everything has a season it was a little bit sad this year that the middle school for which this position is aligned had only three entries and i believe one of the three didn't turn up we sent five entries from the sixth grade which does not have a sponsor and we sent three entries from the high school which does not have a sponsor and the three entries from the high school are all advancing to the state competition so this is a very  only send three entries from the middle school carries requesting action on freshman conferences one item only we have a motion second it's been moved in second it is very discussion on favorite place and oppose no contract motion carried requesting action on educational programs and student activities items number one and two  travel they do their thing they do it once but i do want to point out that i've been involved with the movies magma challenge for over a decade this is the first time we've had a team advance to the second round this is a big deal so i just want to cel i just wanted to single out mcmurry elementary p t a for the donation of eight thousand three hundred twenty dollars for an entire chromebook lab for make my school and i wanted to thank you for that ok thank you and the other comments ok seen on the approval before number eight items one through six all in favor please say i try and oppose no motion carriers and that's the end of the super tense agenda i think ok does anyone have anything under board information they would like to bring up there we go i'm here as a resident taxpayer community member tonight so you guys are still trying to whittle away the gap on the budget which is quite extensive still and yet you said at the conclusion of last year last month's board meeting that that's what you were going to do and you want to close a budget and yet tonight the majority of you except two voted to create a new administration position ok you're saying that it's only seventy five hundred dollars in the budget that's an added expense to thirty thousand or they're close to whatever other amount of money is just a paper move so somebody else is not going to get the money another person is going to be getting that money seventy five hundred dollars is not a lot to you guys in a sixty million dollars budget however to a taxpayer that's a lot of money ok i find that this is the third position that it's been created in the district the third administrative position that's been created refuse supposed to be making the smaller why are we creating positions on the administrative end to me this is your widening the gap instead of making it smaller granted this community is not in debt in any way it's a growing community they're building homes all over the place according to the allman ak we're building forty new homes ok in one area and twenty eight patio homes in another area it's a growing community and you don't want to burden the taxpayers any more by everything that you're talking about by the new proposals that have that you're going into but i find it very difficult to accept the creation of new positions new administrative positions when you're trying to lessen the expenses in here and i really really think that you guys need to take a good look at that and take care of your own before you start creating more positions and hear more administrative positions thank you can i'm just going to comment because i think if i were sitting in the audience i would definitely think the same thing and after having been on the board what you realize is that it is so lean and the mandates are so much that you risk  only you know i won't say over working your ministry to people but there's not enough time in the day and especially in that position i really do see a potential liability if things aren't done correctly with respect to concussions the training the monitoring you know just reviewing policies this year we recognize the fact that not only do we have to make sure that our athletes have the concussion training and sign off on forms but also those who are performing in athletic events that are really extra curricular and when you start adding up what if you don't do that what if you don't have that person who's trained in identifying concussions in cardiac arrest and something happens and then you're not talking seven thousand five hundred dollars you're talking about millions of dollars because somebody could die and you do not have the proper person so i agree with you one hundred percent and i just want to tell you that i am very conscious about when i'm approving a position i don't want to approve it lightly or i can tell you for for me personally i would not approve a position if i don't see the need i mean we approve the assistant business manager you know you're talking about millions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of dollars of contracts for insurance and those types of things where if you have the manpower to research and say we'll go with a lower cost alternative for banking we talked about that in policy i really truly think that those positions addition has the ability maybe to even pay for itself so i do agree with you but just just renegotiating the printer contracts alone chalk had the time and he saved fifty thousand dollars i mean that's why i'm voting for for those particular positions but i do understand and value your opinion so thank you and the other public com scheduled item is may eighteenth a regular board so we do have some meetings to be scheduled and some of the things available yet have a date i would makan i'm just requests that we might need to either piggy back or have one extra day of policy but the only reason i'm interrupting and i don't mean to interrupt is that it would have to be before i'm a teen because there might be that one the one after next policy meeting will get we should be able to get through all the three hundreds we're going to try and attempt to attach student trips to the end of that but if we can't get through that that would have to come to policy before may team so that's you could go ahead and schedule but i just wanted to say if there's some day in between there for that which we might be able to cancel if we're really quick next week i was kind of looking to piggyback on that meeting as that meeting as well not for building grounds as well as tomorrow choose that but possibly a close personal meeting for superintendent evaluation i'd like to be eleventh would be good for me is there any way to maybe try some different dates than just mondays at least for the month of may i happen to and please i'm not asking this just for myself so if it's not possible i understand but i happen to be away for another board meeting of which i cannot miss and i don't like to miss those committee meetings so i just ask the question i mean mondays are we stuck with mondays it's been rigorous with mondays  when the first well the first monday and the second monday the second monday eleventh is the one that i'm away the first monday i have church stuff but i mean will know after monday i might be able to cancel the policy one depending on if we got through everything plus june trips ok so at this point we have nothing on the eleventh but the thirteenth would be policy buildings grounds and all those committees would start at six thirty six there would be person only be personnel and misnomer i'm not so sure a that we're going to be able to have another finance meeting before the eighteenth ok but i just asked this question is or if to vince is there any requirements that we need to still yet complete before the eighteenth usually just right and i mean with all due respect i don't see anything changing between now and then suddenly finance committee meeting things certainly can change and i expect them to change between that meeting maybe in the final but i don't see anything changing between now and that meeting so it would be in one of those early june correct we would have certainly have to have something religion or about the education is a fourth or do i make my position is memorial may twenty six could i just ask then that we schedule finance for june eighth since we're all at calendars  case so it is point time we have nothing for the fourth checker in education we're looking at maybe june first kids i'm not sure what he's going to need to go over mean the everything's done everything's done as far as mcmurry it's the balls rolling and mr gall to need some time to to get these other proposals together and out and out so you know dr french think i mean dr murphy do you think it would be better to have a policy on the fourth and then if mr mero wanted to piggyback on may thirteenth you think do we want to do that instead have the policy they may fourth and then if mr merrill wants to piggyback buildings and grounds with the close personnel does that work thirteenth as personnel buildings and grounds regular media is the education and nothing on the first so f  a lot to get through the three hundred so i think it'll take a lot less time than the two hundred so if we could work on a fortune strips at the end of that and finish it all depends on whether we want to make the policy