long has that person been in that job i think this is his fourth term so i mean that's very similar and the car was just here before and we in fact had the opportunity i believe that the person in the recorder deeds was similarly nine ok and you lived in colorado correct and i lived there for seven years regionally i was born in maryland and my father was a minister so we traveled with different congregation and my parents ended up in scott they'll which is out near new stem and went to school and after graduating moved to colorado got married came back adopted kids and we decided to set up home in peter and when they were you said you went to school and i u p d what was your major communications media ok so this should be familiar with you yeah i'm comfortable in front of the camera but yeah if you come on the other side yeah this is this is an excellent program they have here  i try to tell it all the time because like i said especially during the school year there are students behind the cameras there are students running the operations center here and it's just fabulous but these folks do i mean i said they do a wonderful job here you have a b am self employed and previous experience i have a background in sales marketing and promotions before adopting children and becoming a full time stay at home mom i worked in advertising sales travel wage and they give you enough opportunity then to work out of your home for that yeah and plus i think being a travel agent has given me a lot of life experience because i've been to the other side of the continent as well as the other side of the globe  so having a foreign perspective on countries travelled think eleven different countries and so i've got a different perspective a full blown perspective on what's out there in the world instead of being short and congregated in one they are all adopted ok they're all from kazakhstan which is central asia this former soviet bloc country and they all have such different sets of parents the two oldest daken lorna were adopted as infants from the same orphanage  we thought we would adopt a boy or girl and we'd be done well three years later we needed to hear more and another boy and girl from cause extends well but a different orphanage so now it was like raising two sets of twins but there are a lot of fun well that's what monica says she is she and i got married about nine years ago and what's nice about it is she didn't have any children which is not you know she didn't she always wanted something so whenever she married me of course she got tons of kids and tons of grandkids and so her sisters are always upset about that because they have kids and they don't have any grandkids she has them all she's ahead of the curve yeah right now so that worked out well for everyone once again you you you have a travel agency currently that i would assume because i know that you're out knocking on doors all day and i know that you may be making i don't believe you nancy have been making rounds yes we are live together and we'll talk about there for a little bit to tell you yeah we're having a lot of fun nancy has does has done the logistics on it and i've been the driver and then we switch but i'm a much better driver she's much better at statistics and you know logistics because i get car sick so i drive and she'll say that's the house i stop she jumps knocks on the door and we've been doing you know the countryside  he out there people have been really receptive to us with responses like no one's ever come out here before we had nancy said a gentleman mentioned to her he'd lived in his house for like thirty five years and no one has ever come to his house and he says you got  the worst thing they can do is yell at you or shut the door or just say no or say no yeah and that's like you said i've believe me having been in councils all the stronger in school board you have to do that if you want the people to get to know you personally and i mean it's not it's usually not i you know here's something to walk away it's usually when everything you hand them something their weight you know start talking well the thing i've noticed and it's easy for nancy and myself because of our personalities is if you're genuine and you're yourself and you don't try to put on a show it shows up and people when with door knocking people can birdseye you know when you can see somebody i you can you get a read on them and i think that that helps you know when with the with the voters as when they see that you're a real person you're not you know a fancy glossy picture on a palm card you're you're a human being and you're just like us you just want to do you know more to serve the community you to take in older dogs from the washington area humane society and these dogs once they came into my house stayed until the end so like the sunny acres retirement community for dogs and then when they passed i would receive another dog and then the last dog i fostered was a black pug and she was in a painful situation with physical problems and she was with me for maybe a month and i'm ready to send her back because she's young as opposed to the older dogs and i got attached to her so that one stayed so she's still with me so now i have four small dogs  know maybe ten pounds and under from animal shelters except for the chihuahua she was resolved with me so i've stuck to kittens i can give back kittens because when they get about two pounds they're ready for adoption and by the time that poor five kittens are two pounds and they're all over your house you're ready to give them that so after they're bottle fed him weaned and ready to go i'm happy to say goodbye and my children help because they like to feed the kittens and show you  sure as i have heard from other people an ethical standard and that in fact that you stick with it's not a case the you know one of those people that apparently tell one person one thing another person totally different you with the same theme down the road yes and it's basically it's a standard and i think as you mature in life you you develop your standards and if you follow standards your parents would like my parents once you find that standard you stick to it so that means if you rub somebody the wrong way you know then you're up someone the wrong way but if you're authentic and stand for what you believe and people will respect you they may not always agree with you but at least th respect she in my case is you can't teach your dog you know that's out of being a sort of inflexible course i think i'm more flexible than this my kids are so i i don't know about that you are a solid proponent of the second amendment i am ok and this is of course being attacked at all levels for the especially the federal government at this time i don't know that that position what have a whole lot to do with it but it's good to see that you're an individual who believes in the rights of the people i do with i found out about our honors against crime and i joined them because it amendment so and i don't like slippery slopes people say well we'll do we'll take this law and will at this and they had all kinds of laws it's this second amendment is the second amendment and that is our one safety net against overbearing federal government as well as any other government you know different levels but to me it's very personal so i don't mince words when it comes to this i think it's funny because i had i thought civics here in the last year and one of the local schools and i had the opportunity we had to teach in the constitution and it was quite sad to me whenever these brothers allegedly did this bombing in boston  that many of the students of this district felt it was ok to give up your rights to allow the government to come into your house without a warrant to in fact do this kind of thing and now of course we're seeing the n s a with the wiretapping that they're collecting everybody's stuff i'm every mail and everything else so i'm i'm anti that i you know it's in the good times you keep on your rights because you'll need them at the bad times in our county and that's one of the things that i'm  i'm also over prone and an n r a member and everything else i don't know if that was because of my father taught me to hunt when i was young or my twenty years in the military service or it was just because of my belief in the constitution that that i support that but i totally agree with you there my father was and are a member and a hunter so i grew up around that atmosphere i've been to gun bashes so it's a matter of respecting firearms it's not the guns that kill the people it's the people who kill with the firearms so if you raise children to respect it and know how to manage them i just can't understand how people want to take your rights away  and then it's like dumbing down the children in school about letting them take away this right this right this right and then get back to that slippery slope and that's just not a good thing you know i you know i look at the intelligence of our forefathers who wrote the constitution and how they made it able to be changed and sometimes you know i just wish we had that same caliber in there now you know because i think i think we're missing a lot  she comes and joins so we split it up i sing international and she sings you know so how did you get started there is that when your father is kwara there's a minister whining in the church choir when i was a teenager but you know went to college what they would be junior high and going are you are going to be going to the junior high this year the middle school and they're nervous my daughter's especially nervous and i have to give her a conversation like  this every time you change your grade ok this is seven six eight years since kindergarten you have done this every year and then you know within a week she's back to normal and then i'll say do you remember when we had to start all over again well that's i have i had five kids and i have three of my own and two stepchildren and i know the feeling because of the fact that they they are and dissipating they always seem to dissipate a bad year and then all of a sudden once they get into it they realize that they can make out of it whatever they want their factor kicks in at first let me see what else on the use of your background you like to read i do and what kind usually nineteenth century  english authors jane austen i'm really a big fan of hers i do like to read some esoteric things i like to read  ties into art i'm a big fan of art so when i travel the first thing i do is find out where they are museums are and the churches are so i can go look at the art so it ties in so what  special studies in those areas are just personal and personal pleasure and enjoyment things that fascinate me while this is i guess the next question that i have is how do you take a person with those backgrounds with those interests and all of a sudden now look at this position and say that's what i want to do i think at this point in my life as a mom and i'm forty four now and maybe people in the audience in their forty's you come to a realization that this is your adulthood and you need to develop it into old hood that is expansive engaging and most importantly set the example for your children and as a mom now that my kids are you know more evolved and older they're really learning you know what life's about and serving as an example to what i believe in is extremely important people can criticize politicians and and say well they need to do this and do this and do this but if you're willing to step into the arena and and accept responsibility that's a big challenge and nothing says i'm willing to take on this task and serve as an example to my children as going into politics if you want to see change in the world you have to be the change you want to see in the world and that's that i personally strongly believe in is you have to lead by example i agree with you there's there's people who scream from the sidelines from who talk about what everybody else should do but they don't get involved themselves it's like i have you know from nine to five i can scream but after five i have my things i want to do with my life and it doesn't involve you folks but i'm more than happy to criticize  i've been on a council i've been on a school board i've been on involved with other political organizations and i get that a lot you know i get criticized for of what you do then you get criticized for what you don't criticize what the majority does and you don't  on that so sometimes it's frustrating and you try to move on the best you can because there are sometimes very partisan people make it very personal yet that's where maturity comes in and being gracious and understanding that it may not be  personal or it may be personal but you can't you can't let it affect you you have to have a goal in mind and if your goal is to do something better to make it a better place especially you know washington telling then you have to accept those responsibilities but as i  mentioned here whenever nancy was on you know the washington county has moved along at a slow pace for years the offices themselves move at the same pace things have changed with the gas companies coming in with the money with the people coming in and things should be picking up and they don't seem to be they seem to be dragging the anchor and they're still walking at that same pace whenever the you know activity done the court house is probably two hundred percent of what it was just five years ago we have to have as you say the flexibility of transparency that government should be working for the people not the other way round the people should not be working in government just for a paycheck and a pension right you know they should be fulfilling their requirements on a daily basis for the community you know and you probably already know this but the founding fathers were the eminently against people who were to become career politicians they believe that people who served in office should maintain a business they should be business owners and landowners in order to have that sense of responsibility we all know that when politicians get into office sometimes they're so focused on maintaining their position you know holding on to all their toys in their kudo's and they just forget who they're there to serve but there it's the people and they have to be accountable and that i take as a serious responsibility and i think having transparency platform and what i want to do is put these spending online it's really easy to do you can even receive e mail blast of what's being spent and when there are lots of eyeballs watching the situation people have a tendency to one be more engaged and what's going on and to behave themselves and i find that when people everybody knows what's going on there's more likely to be honesty in str had their fingers in you know from from my position so i really don't know anything about that office lady said the recorder's office it was easy because you know as a as a politician or as a homeowner you get to work with those people want to the wall when you buy a property or whatever so i mean they said i'm i'm sort of not necessarily in the dark i realize it has to deal with money for the of the county but is there one of the things that i was asking mr carr about was there a had an experience where i was at a senior center helping my daughter's girl scout troop plant a new garden and i mentioned my campaign to one of the scout masters and she shared my story that i was running with a gentleman who was trying to get information about royalties that the county was receiving for gas and he said it was like pulling teeth and as soon is now he found out about me he started sending me his information he got excited and there's somebody who is running who wants to show us where the money is so i think i've gotten a really strong reaction from people for they say they want to show us how the money's yeah first let's secrecy it's your money also you the money this is this is one of the things that i found a long time ago in any government organization or any business and whenever people get entrenched and they don't have to be held to a higher standard they will work at their own level it's like water of water will find its own level and that's what happens if you don't put pressure on people retrain them educate upgrade their services upgrade their facilities you get what you did twenty years ago which are people who learned how to do something that way back then before computers came in before you know before the earth crust cold and all that other good stuff so it's you know fighting against the county the entrenchment of those people in the county is always difficult you know we've had problems with a couple of the offices recently when it came to  the elections and how they get screwed up from time to time and it's just like no one's ever held accountable everything just happens and all of a sudden that's yesterday's news today we may or may not do the same thing we did yesterday so we didn't learn your time and effort now to in fact run for an office which has not been really questioned for almost two decades correct and when you have accountability in the office it does it kind of bleeds off into other areas were people realize ok this is angela stander and she's not going to let things slide and she's going to make sure that information is disseminated we need to make sure all her piece are cues are taken care of because she's going to investigate she's going to audit she's going to make sure it's efficient and one of the things that the county controller can do is make suggestions if the commissioners want to spend money on a particular i don't say for example a car and i see that they're looking to buy a car for the police department maybe and they want to buy something that is a certain level of money that i think could be at a better price and purchase locally i can make those suggestions and save the taxpayers dollars instead of having it just shuffling you know pay the bill to the controllers office the controller actually has the ability to say three in value wait this this is not cost effective and it's interesting because you know and i and i have my own complaints about the governor but the bottom line is whenever he came into office the state got rid of hundreds of cars because of the fact that they found them not needed well those hundreds of cars or probably millions of dollars worth of taxpayers money that were being used not only the car the expense of the car itself but the insurance and the gas and everything else that follows up with it probably you know tens of millions of dollars spent that we as the probably think of they have a car there was warranted it was justified and everything else then all of a sudden a new regime came in and i don't see anything you government so apparently they didn't need those cars you know and that's something that until it's brought to the attention of the public we don't know but we're assuming that those care takers of those positions are doing the job that they're being paid for but i think when in government people need to they want to be more involved in government they need to start their own backyard if you want change the start doesn't start at the top with a credible government if you want change in your backyard stuff start in the back yard and that means the row offices that means accountability that means a candidate who wants to show you how things are done being spent and then work your way from there and that will let other people who are interested in running for politics in government and in senate because i don't have a political background i don't have a political family i don't i don't have any relatives in this county except for my children so if i serve as an accent or for other people to take the initiative i welcome that you don't have to be politically connected to be in office and kay well i know one of the things that always amazes me if people in iraq go to vote they put their thumbs pad after they've voted to demonstrate that they voted so they can come back and vote again in this country we had less than twenty percent of the people vote in the primary election which is depressing i you press him to say the least i wish somebody would come up with a magic pill that will in fact explain why registered voters won't get off their duffs and go vote because you know the presidential election always seems to be bringing elections that in fact are more meaningful to their lives and you know he said all we can do is hope that people will come out in november and vote vote their conscience for the people they feel are more capable to make the best judgment you can for the people in office so thank you very much for coming by