claim element dealing with the amplifier claims the structure or is it claiming a means for performing a function namely though it's not a structure it's not even though it doesn't say a means for amplifying you think it should be read as if it did say a means for amplifying well it's  too low you can't decrease the signals too well but that's the way they described it i took it that they are saying this is what happens if you change the parameters that's my thing will look tend to go right back to  are at least something very very close to one now what about your circuit doesn't do exactly what the mori should tell prior art circuits do with respect to the small and weaving disparity from one does your circuit not do that and it is so what about your circuit prevents that from happening because when i looked at with the considerable aid of my luck  say when i looked at the circuits i didn't see anything in the micron circuit that was performing a different function from marie shooter with respect to the unity gain amplifier that would have accomplished the elimination of what you say is the disqualifying feature of the mara shit a prior art as can you point me to something that circuit that actually takes care of the eleven point nine or twelve point one vo have the micron thick here where is the mechanically where is the circuitry that produces a different result it can point to that it's more because isn't that an imp isn't that the critical element of anything slightly lower not ever it's one one one exactly one all the time and i'm saying where do we know that that's true we hear you say that but where in your application is it shown that the gain amplifier aims at unity but doesn't necessarily multiply by exactly one it would multiply by something a little more a little less as ne be saying that the goal is to equalize two currents but the way of doing that is to multiply by whatever is needed amplifier if it doesn't equalize current with him osiris isolate the circuitry that produces the the reference signal from the real world which is very noisy very messy and you get signals propagating of what does what i mean s p s s where's the circuit diagram that depicts a unity gain and profile which is to say another way of saying if you don't have to put in something it shows that you invented an actual see what would transistor let me ask the question this way what transistor in your diagram operates differently from the diagrams above this in the  whatever the words unity gain amplifier mean that because you don't do anything different than more sheet it is certainly that whatever else you might characterize whether you call it a comparative or whether you put what you want to call it and therefore it seems to me it's incumbent upon you in light of that argument if that is indeed their argument as i understand it to be to say no they're not the same answers when they're different but instead you're telling me that they're different because they produce a different output without showing me what it is johnson technical question in our appendix we have the examiners answer and various portions such as page five of the board's opinion their references examiners answer with respect to that work is a claim which is currently what will we have to do what do we need to look beyond the pages of the board decision to understand the basis need i like to pick up where the court was questioning michael and i believe that the court has a complete understanding what's going on here to keep question is the critical question what is the difference between the two  both yes or if you look at page two thirty six column two lines thirty two thirty four there are more  unity gain amplifier as opposed to some other kind of gain amplifier necessarily always and only multiplies by one point zero and that that's clearly not looks that to says what the goal is his argument seems to focus on how you get to the goal and he says in both devices you multiply by some  variable he says in his case the thing you multiply by is always one point zero where is a more ishida in order for it to achieve the equality it has to multiply by something different from one point zero output once again is forced to pull and i'm asking about the the multiplication factor that seems to be what he says is different in his amplifier versus the prior art amplifier he says my amplifier always and only mobilized by one unity my claim element is telling everybody in the art that the mo potations factor is one point zero and nothing else now the fact that it's brought would generally speaking it doesn't seem to me to make any difference if he's correct that the word unity means the multiplier is one point zero and nothing else well i understand that  functions so i guess what you're saying but this is i don't want to put words in your mouth but it is that to determine what a unity gain amplifier means at least for purposes of this patent you look at the specifications of the of the i'm the application i'm not talking about more sheet i'm talking about the the application and there you find the unity gain the structure of the unity gain amplifier and because it does the same thing in this is essentially identical very strong spike in current what happens with more sheets i could describe the way that circuit functions in response to a strong spike in the ext that regardless of whatever circumstance happened in the system more secure what it does so that it would once again so what we're talking about when we talk about the non unity is is only this diagrams i found this background is very helpful so i keep going back to click the structure you see at about the center of the something that has no relationship to the unity gain character of the device doesn't seem to me to get you anywhere and if you can tell us what they do and how they affect the unity gain each of this invention then we're making