incidents of discrimination she used the word discrimination throughout you know since she was little and as a young student she had already problems on account of her ethnicity and she was trending via and thai chinese mob that attack marked ones is there any indication that the family has been in trouble you mean based on right now or yes auntie the family has continued to have problems and so how do we fulfill the requirement of persecution on account of state sponsored with the indonesian authorities when they were not assistant at a very young each other if the petitioner would have been very young at the time that his brother was killed at the age of eleven and that would have caused the family to believe that the initial authorities were not willing or able to assist them with their problems so that after and i understand that there were incidents that occurred that did not seem to indicate that there was any request for police assistance but i would i would argue that the incident involving the death of his brother where they were not assisted by the police would have already given them the impression that the police cannot be relied upon for assistance and also you are  killed age eleven and they went to the police and the police told him that's the fate of cheney well you're i would respond to what happened in one thousand and seventy two and that the events that we're wanes but the government does at least expressed the position that they are trying to improve the to china and asian relations in that country so you know for them to just abstain from to the police after every incident just on what happened over twenty years ago i would say is not a reasonable position with regard to asylum i would just say that that is the position that we explain our brief and it's it's a  well i think it does change because we're talking about now a more stringent burden of proof as to the actual persecution and their fear about persecution that is you know for asylum all they have to show is a well asylum obviously you can't meet them or stranger because of her withholding because it's a clear probability of persecution not just having a well founded fear so you know when we're talking about the disfavor group analysis that was membership in this favor group lowers the amount of truth let that individual petition prove to show that there's then persecution and the likelihood of risk in the future if you so has a part two and it says that not only do you have to be part of a disfavor group you also have to show that there's an individual ice risk now the more harm it comes to the disfavor group the less you have to show for individual as rest however the individual facts here if you can sail one of the things that happen and say it was that she expressed a fear of being raped because she expressed you know that there were there was evidence fact that we have family members female family members of both the husband the petitioner in this case and the wife she has two sisters appearing one of them is not united states but one of them still  family members remain in the ija similarly situated nothing has happened to them or at least no information has come forward since then that anything's happened to them so on that ground we say that that case is distinguish e now recognizing that there's another case out there that was recently submitted to the court under the twenty j rule and that is the will of long case in the one case the court held that there's also a special subgroup of indonesians that face a greater risk then than the average disfavor group that is if if if that person is a woman and christian that subgroup faces a greater risk and in that case in the long case they found that that was sufficient to grant asylum in that case and that was not of withholding millions no it wasn't so risk when she was on public transportation she was sexually harassed on many occasions and i don't see it being any different from sal being targeted as the chinese female government nine and if i understand we're not supposed to add on to the to the record so i had already mentioned just now that they have