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t d e c twenty three december the twenty third as we are here live tonight so of course also you can become a fan of us on facebook as well great way to follow so in fact i'm going to recommend facebook or join us on twitter if you haven't done that already and i'm not even one of those people that posts to that nonstop so i know some people with facebook and twitter they go on you like spend all your time on their i don't want to read like ten thousand tweets from somebody you don't worry about that with you you  t know about everybody what's going on and every moment of someone's life you know you and i don't do that i mean when it peaks here yeah well i'll post an occasional sports thing if i'm watching the game and you know my laptop or whatever help i'll post a tweet or whatever talking about whatever the game is patriots you're going into the you know talk about a contrast just that last couple of weeks i mean last week a very tough loss in miami where it seemed like ok the magic's kind of run out all these last second victories brady pull in the rabbit out of the hat how many times going to do it and you know finally it kind of came crashing to an end and then you figure well they're going to baltimore the next week a place that's never been easy for them like the last time the patriots lost two in a row you go back to weeks two and three last year and they lost at home to arizona and then the week three was at baltimore a sunday night game maybe the difference was they flexed this year's game out of sunday night so history did not repeat itself and boy you know talk about total opposite of what anyone was expecting forty one to seven definitely a statement game i mean i think they really want to  prove some especially at the lose in the way they did last week the week before in miami no one that they needed the game you know it's tough when you've won ten games and you talk about a must game but i mean it was a must game because if they want to do anything and get the buy  in get out of the first round they get they have to run the table at this point last week in this of the last three games this is the one i was worried about last week i wasn't worried about the miami game and lo and behold that someone would get slapped after we took the lead the beginning which scared me because like every week we don't play good in the first half but we win this game we played good in the first half and i was get nervous when it's paid off the way it did but i think they went out and they said they had something to prove to people and they did yeah i mean they they did what they have to do and that's been one of the big problems with this team is winning that must win game when they need to and yesterday was a must win game they lose that game yesterday they have to even fight for their playoff a lot of against buffalo this coming sunday wasn't even a guarantee that they'd be in the playoffs and of course you know the miami dolphins shot up by the buffalo bills nowadays exactly i think it's been twenty years since the last time the buffalo bills shut out a team not being sarcastic but but you know what you're right but it's still oh so you know the patriots had a they had a tough task they went into baltimore and they took care of business now are the ravens as good as they were rational we're not even close they're quite a back sting dop their defense isn't like what it used to be but that's still a tough stadium to go into no matter how good or bad that team is and they went in and they want them i mean and you know i was that game was moving on yesterday and the patriots are gaining speed going in the fourth quarter and they could score and you knew that bill belichick was loving every touchdown they ran into was just all the trash that baltimore's talked the last couple of years and even leading up to the game this week just you know quiet everyone that goes against the patriots won a game yesterday you know when everyone picks against them who wins the patriots always win when everyone picks against them that's what they did yesterday actually yeah it's  true you know certainly though i mean the ravens were going into that game playing pretty well i mean they'd won four straight six and one at home this year but yeah i think the flacco injury may have made a difference he got hurt of course in last week's game and you know i thought if the pages were going to have a chance at this game it would be to take advantage of flacco is lack of mobility and they were able to get to him for four sacks you could notice it the way it was play until he just couldn't move around a couple times he stumbled he just you could tell that that need just was not there you know and he just couldn't play it well and that's what it takes i mean you look you look at what the patriots d has done against a pretty lousy quarterback the season you look at campbell from the browns you go back to the jets i mean they've had problems against every quarterback there played the season yesterday you get what a horrible quarterback and they were able to take advantage and have their big one of their larger wins of the season which wasn't even really a game usually rice though runs it up on them he didn't you know and they had problems stopping the run too so they had troubles especially since wilfork went down  one thing that's interesting here is that rice has actually had an off season for him in his numbers are way down if he's only run for about six hundred fifty yards i mean he really good for a thousand every year and it's just you know whether it's you know super bowl you know she had been hangover or might be or it's not them they had  you know he was only twenty six years old though and i was talking the other day i guess he was making some remarks about he wants to play the least thirty but he's already i mean in there he came into the league pretty young to i think he came in right at twenty so i mean this is like a six or seven season already so even a twenty six that's  ot a lot of mileage on those tires for a running back which you know if you think about the average career of an n f l running back he's already far exceeded that yeah yeah and you look at you know you look at team overall they're far from what that super bowl team was last year just a lot of missing pieces and they're just you know it's not the same feeling when you play that baltimore team this you know even though it was a big win and still is a team that's maybe declining that's declining here a little bit so still a long way to go for this team but definitely a positive at least getting a win on the road which has been tough a dominating way what can i when i did it for sure right i mean i think we all thought it was going to be just another close game go down to the wire and you know with those kind of games it's almost a coin flip who's got the ball last you know which way the wind blowing has a good effect to stop potential you know game winning field goal kicker something you know pieces a laundry are going to get thrown or in the end of the game right last waltz talk about that i mean i was i had a laundry and that got one point during that game i was looking in the papers having committed a penalty and they put out a good roll lately not doing that but you know ends up they ended up finishing the game i think with seven penalties called on them and i'm thinking to myself you know i think that i do more with the officiating than it maybe did on the patriots themselves there were a lot of questionable calls and they definitely i couldn't believe some of the cause i mean at one point was i get through three full flags in a row and i say come on guys we'll let him play i mean plainly penalty play penalty you know it's like this is get a little ridiculous yeah and i think that's been sort of the whole tone in the n f l this year and you know i feel like we're sat around and had talks about officiating before always comes up in the n b a you know everywhere the n b a has the worst officials in all sports always conversation you always debate you know an umpire strike so most things always come up for the you never really talk about n f l referees that often it was talked about a lot last year when they had the replacement referees and now you know with the scandals that happened in that seahawks game last year but in general you never really talk about it at all referees that much you know they're usually known to be pretty consistent solid referees but i've pushing the guy at the on the field goal was another similar challenge and yes if they said they were going to stress that inevitably there was a call in the pittsburgh green bay game that was really weird for batting the ball yesterday this the feel like the refs of gone deep into the rulebook this year to find obscure calls it clearly wasn't in san francisco should've won and there's been a lot of big calls to sway a lot of games in the n f l this year and they have been good calls it's got to do it with instant replay instant replays got these guys so on edge that they just don't call the game it's they don't just played the game it's almost like they're trying to look to react so that they don't get caught on camera doing something on missing something and it's almost taken away from the game of the officiating because human error has always been a part of it just like when to play the game human error is always a part of it but now because every play can be scrutinized i mean i think these guys are on pins and needles and i mean how many times how many picked up flags have you seen this yet more than i've ever seen i mean they're not that flag to pick it up yeah you know the thing is when you throw a flag in the n f l just make the call and then go back and look at it after you make the call you think it is you know just take that and you know that it is the you know reviewing is really has sort of hurt the game a little bit just wait till we're reviewing every play in major league school college it's coming in everywhere and i mean the biggest you know change we've seen this year is of course now all scoring plays and then all turnovers are automatically review so there got that factored in then you've got all these like you said how you think you're right and the officials are on edge because it always seems like the they want to call in such a way that they think that you know if this is going to be there is a going to be enough evidence to overturn it so they they almost kind of always go with the safe route like they'll call it a catch even though it probably isn't and then of course you need enough evidence to overturn it and you know you end up with these crazy scenarios i think the biggest and the worst culprit of all these you guys brought up before the pass interference because that's totally subjective and at this point it's not even reviewable and it may never be so in the end i mean you know we always talk about this how we were watching the games together you know you see any receiver running a deep pattern they bump with the defensive back in there was a time you were allowed to have a little contact going down the field not anymore you know now it's you know immediately that that receiver turns around to the official uncatchable pass that's interpretation there's and there's nothing set in stone that says all this is a passenger fear is called this shouldn't and i personally think they should go to the college rule and just have a pass interference be a fifteen yard penalty then you know it's still a substantial  it doesn't change you know it doesn't change the whole the whole floor of the game you know it can it can ruin a game on a bad you know on a bad call it's just you want to you know a fifty yard penalty if that's all the sudden a fifteen yard penalty then you know it's not it's not as rocky here's my only question with that if you adopt the college rules and the pros guys running deep down the field fifty yards why don't i just triple because yeah well no doubt our penalty that's a legitimate it's a legitimate concern but i think it you know basically you know it really goes both ways and i think  where you take you know maybe distance half of yeah i feel like they just have to come up with maybe a little bit of a rule because now you know every time you throw the ball fifty yards to the end zone and there's a jump ball everyone expects a flag to be thrown one way or and if there is that the part and right now he's four catches away from one hundred yards and he's also like a what's that a hundred yards away from a thousand yards he's going to put he's going to become the third patriots receiver to ever do that have a one hundred catches in a thousand yards in the same year obviously welker was was the first one you guys field advantage the patriots coming into the season probably had one of their best defensive teams in probably a good five years or so coming in you know out the upright you know you know you have you know mayo wilfork you know you're really strong up front with the run which they always  are but this you can be like oh we finally have some you know we have a good d back and to leave as well so we're going to have a well rounded healthy deep end and then by what we want it's all gone and there is now it's you know what's wrong with our own seventh round draft picks from rutgers in their kids off the even noticed it that's what he did was do yeah i mean what a great job and then this josh klein another guy off the practice squad sliding into the left guard spot i think it was an undrafted free agent that they grabbed there i mean again so yeah he you know yesterday with two interceptions a couple defend their asses i mean he was he was heavily involved in there i mean yeah you just demean you know some of these guys are like third on the depth chart at their position and they like the company in here and when you think about it they don't even gets a practice that much i mean you know you're limited to like what three practice is a week right and then the backup guys they're only out on the field for a small percentage of the snaps during the practice so the fact is these guys are playing very little even in practice and for them to jump right in and be able to make he plays i mean like you know in the game yesterday it's just it's just very impressive and just goes to show you the depth of the patriots have it doesn't appear that they should have this much depth you see other teams that look like they have much more talent and they have trouble winning week to week and hear the patriots  may when they have to pairs everyone for every situation that they could possibly be thrown in and they're always all ready to go every week and i think that's probably the difference where you know maybe another team that has better talent just focuses on those guys all week and if something happens what do we him we maybe get lucky and get through it or not for the most part it's the not part but bellatrix always ready propose and i mean the way this team is you know has been the last couple years with injury after injury and never be able to stay healthy he has to have all his plays ready to go especially when some of your players have consistent injury history and some are older as well you know part of the two is the structures that you've never seen this team when a player goes down and say oh geez we've lost so and so i don't know we're going to it's like came in was a little productively i mean he wasn't you know catching the bone but he was a little productive when i got hurt bill belichick it said thanks for coming and then the soon as he was how he called them back and he was great i'm going back yeah exactly and that's that's how we set things up and he's able to be any knows the schemes you know we know he knows the defense and you know he's been productive since it's like the extra taxi squad of guys you have your practice squad and with belak checkers like this extra taxi squad of guys like speed dial you know and then when you know the injuries i mean you have to do this so i was like that you know yeah you're new we need you all right i'll be there yeah but then i want to show up and then he'd say we need you for five plays and it threw me in for fifty play right i mean that's the thing that's just incredible though is that you know this you mean you're right i mean over the years we've seen this over and over again we shouldn't be that surprised but yet it feels like there's so many more injuries this year to keep guys like at some point even as a fan you're watching if you're going you know i wouldn't blame them if they gave up i mean because there's just only there's only so far down the depth chart you can go i mean pretty soon you are literally grabbing guys off the street you're holding tryouts and you know you look at stadium you know when you've got guys who are like you know the the mob or all share my rocks coming down to try out or something you think  said i mean he's a guard but he has the ability the versatility to be able to slide over to that left tackle spot and create your often severe line wind when soldier goes down with a concussion i mean i mean i think i think a lot of that's him i think also a little bit of credit probably ought to go to the  know that's a line coach because i mean they all seem to get the most out of the line and i i just thought the line had been struggling the last few weeks but now it seems like you know they're playing better let's talk about how the line also worked into the how the run game was so effective yesterday i mean you know this was a game where they actually have thirty six thirty six running plays to only twenty six passing plays i mean they re in war then they passed which i know everyone says it all comes down to brady but you know what we're getting to some of this cold inclement weather you've got to be able to run the ball and this is one area the team whether they are you have to remember that first time we saw him when bella checked like deactivated for a game with some solar sideline with the football going to football under him that was kind of fun it was innocent it had a dunce had on with the football and you know if you look at the running that they did yesterday maybe he should have done a little more the weekend before against miami you know because it seemed like a couple times in that miami game they had some opportunities where they could have run the bag but they elected the pass and it just was a it just wasn't working for them they had some you know short maybe through you know second in threes and what not some third ones where they decide to throw the ball instead of right and i know the game can get dictated but when you have tom brady i feel like you also get a little caught up in maybe overthrowing the bass sometimes but you know that they saw something against baltimore yesterday that said you know we can run the ball against these guys they did it they were effective you know and they they switch it around you know blunt has a good game one week better than has a good game you get farina in there and then ridley so you know it's you know for a solid running backs out there you know what if weaver remains ok because i but you know even if you do lose him hopefully some of your other guys can keep it going as well the thing to with this thing you would think that based on the fact that they do have brady never expects it to come down a brady they'd be able to use that to have a better running game you know you know they always say you got to you know use the run to set up the past well this team these brady you know you expect him to pass so why couldn't it be the other way around he's one of the sometimes a decoys and they can really exploit the running game because no one's expected it they're the ball you know and that's why i think sometimes they should utilize the running game more because of that that brady's going to pass brady is going to pass idea well you might be right about that how but then you know you could also argue too that you  that you know it was they had some decent guys very much patton you know but david patton was is he any better than what the patriots have i mean probably similarities between what they have out there right now and you had a good run you had a good running back with the m twenty summit than that was one saw you know as he moves through the to the twilight of his career he might have to revert back to some of that a little bit you know yeah that time where he was you know managing a game a short passes screen passes and that's how they were winning and then you know they had we had the you know greatest show on turf years where it was just so we went down the field and tom throws the ball and hit the big plays employee but now as he gets older and maybe the authentic talent isn't as good you ran that you try to rein that back in a little bit and win win games with the drinks in the dunks on the run yeah by the way that was the you know just look at these are all these running backs to a trade that kind of like totally flew under the radar when it happened during the summer was the patriots trading will demps and for look here a blowout and i think they got a draw i think they swapped draft picks than that you know so i mean but look you're a plant was a former starter in tampa and you know the fact they got him here and he's been able help yesterday you know averaging was five yards a carry seventy six yards two touchdowns i mean and that's you know just adds again to that overall depth and then you can balance that off with ridley and then you even have branded bolt and the thing is they're different types of runners you know sort of like that power runner where you put ridley in there and he sort of the you know the front and we'll read your tweets the air if you want to do that as well either way you can get ahold of us here on the show let's move off the patriots a little bit here to look at the whole a f c playoffs picture is a hole here the patriots obviously that when did wonders for them and sets them up beautifully all they have to do now is to be profitable at home in the regular season finale this coming sunday and they will be they'll have the second seed and of course with maybe a little bit of luck out in oakland if  vibes now that that game's a train wreck of a game because that that raiders organization you know their coach thing now the coach went in i think it asked can you resign on my assistant coaches for next year and then they said no we're not resigning out the season exactly as you can see we don't even have a next month schedule because we don't know all the games yet we do know buffalo's coming up and in fact the time of the buffalo game got changed it was just announced yesterday that the want to clock it off was moved back to four twenty five that's because denver oklahoma be playing at four twenty five as well and since they both playing conceivably for the number one seed they don't want to know how the other one's doing although there is one thing that for the is farce the patriots are concerned cincinnati is playing baltimore what a kwok if the bengals lose to the ravens of the ravens actually have to win that game to have a hope of a playoff spot that doesn't even guarantee and they need help but they have to win first if cincinnati loses that game of the patriots would actually clinch the number two seed and they would know this before with snow and freezing cold and we don't know how pain manning plays in that environment anyways he that's usually when he crumbles and falls apart sol i did that actually doesn't scare me as much is  always been bad for them and if you're playing with a depleted lineup and you don't have the depth behind them i mean then these guys are out there for more plays they're getting tired you have to turn right yeah that's a big factor if you don't have the depth to be able bring guides and to spell other guys that you know that's going to be a likely m v p that's not going to be bogus but you have fifty one touchdown passes and fifty games nothing to sneeze at some of those were even in some cold weather rob so i don't think you know a lot you know he had a he's had a good year you can't deny that but you know with and they were blown teams out you know fifty to thirty people weren't saying anything about a player what happened the patriots all these years when they got in the playoffs and got a defensive stance till they got burned for it a little bit so you know and the broncos have had a great season but the struggle against good quarterbacks i mean you know that second half of that game against the patriots tom brady had a pretty had it pretty much as way with that defense the colts you know andrew luck played really well against that team as well so when denver's got up against some good quarterback they've definitely had issues tony romo had an incredible game against the broncos the fans yeah so you you know you get a good quarterback against that defense and you maybe you're missing a piece or two off and simply and all of a sudden you know it's still tough game but it becomes a lot more winnable yeah most part you know what looks like how do the playoffs so many years only n f l where one of those goes that one of those teams goes down though i mean it happens it happens you know a lot more than you think and then you would think it doesn't you know there are you know cincinnati is a tough defensive team they struggle on the road but they're still very good defensively and indianapolis has andrew luck who's a very good quarterback that he was barry injured but you know you have teams that you know indianapolis has been so schizo running this year exactly i mean they go to kansas city yesterday and dominate the chiefs and then they play the rams at home and get pasted right i mean what they want to see a francisco worley i think outside those top four teams you're not going to see a five or six seed make it to the super bowl i would say kansas city i think they're not as good as their record shows the up and play a big game they just couldn't and then right make them you know you know they're not ready yet and one of the teams that scares me the most and they're not even in the playoffs right now is the san diego chargers i mean philip rivers has had a great series had maybe one of his best seasons this year and  if they find them themselves away to squeak in they're going to be a tough out yeah and that's unusual for them too that they've been played well down the stretch right here usually they have to fade into well that's i think the person on the sidelines is helped out that situation a little bit yeah today is that you've got miami baltimore see an eagle pittsburgh all fighting for the six the last spot in the conference last class but added it appears that in all four cases that of those teams can just get in by winning they have to win and the other teams have to do some kind of combination of win loss or tie to get in there are all these teams are kind of interlock with one of the other except while you've got three women eight and seven and then pittsburgh at seven eight so it's a little bit tougher for pittsburgh and that's why they have to win the other three have to lose is if one of those other three wins pittsburgh's automatically eliminated and then you've got the three of them all kind of battling it out with the tigers the n f c just is kind of crazy too with the sense that you know we were talking about this before the show rob you know arizona you know they're week aaron rodgers may or may not return for that game so yeah you've got a potential division where there are eight seven and one you've got the eagles eagles in kabul is right and they're both eight and seven right so one of them is going to wind you be done well then wins gets in right so you have two teams with eight and nine wins respectively and then you've got the poor cardinals ten you know i think they could be playing golf in a week yeah if they want to play division of all year round but he really he really is a great skiing right  decided they wanted to was you know why the patriots decided in the end that to part ways with welker being one of the few reasons i mean they just saw the wear and tear and they were probably afraid one more hard hit and you know here you're seeing it right now you know where you know he's if you look at the league from top to bottom this has been one of the most solid seasons of ever had i mean the only real bad team are the houston texans which if you look at if you have feel bad for the city of houston i think if you put the houston astros and the houston texans record everyone everyone has had and you know you there are like four or five wins so it's been a pretty even it's been a pretty competitive season and there's not one there's not one easy game any weekend in that league but nor is the not one dominant that you feel that often it is going to guaranteed last five seasons like he'll but you have to feel a little different though doesn't it times i mean that's the one relevant to yeah maybe just becoming a little more relaxed is that it but i also wonder if it's just that these guys are kind of you know he's just amazed at the how well except you know these guys are doing they're doing what he's asking and that's i think that's the one thing that makes belichick happy is when they do what he says is kind of reminiscent of the red sox season you know you get guys playing it and he you just don't expect it to you know we're not expecting a lot based on what you got but they just keep went in and win and you know and you know it's been crazy because this patriots team right now if you look back at the whole season you know with some of these wins they've had they could've been easily lost and they could be in a team right now but if you look at some of the  though the skies opened up in the wind raymond they still had a chance to tie that game at the end so they've been in every single game that they've played in the season which is pretty amazing which is pretty amazing i mean this was the first week you've got to breathe a little bit easy watching the pats game all  look at what's happened in boston this year just the comebacks of just been and have been been all about the season you know you look at you look at the bruins with the you know that comeback against toronto in the first round because we can kind of it's our last year with the you're going to talk about a year and you look at that look at the red sox the red sox base their whole season off dramatic come from behind wins you know the ortiz home runs in the playoffs and then brady with you know those incredible those incredible games that are not even second to those two minute warning comeback had i mean it's but incredible yeah i mean if we are going to talk about the year in boston sports i mean let's face it i would have to think that the biggest story around here has to be you know the red sox in probably winning the world series maybe it's one more day with you know what happened at the boston marathon and they just how kind of the two you know how the red sox kind of you know help the help the city of boston kind of like you know rally around a tragic event what happened at the bare thought and i think just you know they were the area where like it was almost like a therapeutic thing and it was a diversion yeah well also even with some of the player is a nice divert it was it was a nice diversion i mean even right down to the you know during the victory parade in the little the tribute they had at the finish line there you heard about all the and in at the end of the year you found out about all these nice things that they did that made it even more special i mean do you think you know we mentioned earlier rap about the sportsman of the year award going to peyton manning i mean i know one writer i think it was from sports illustrated he actually picked david ortiz which would have been a great choice for so many reasons i think in the end i think one of the reasons they didn't go that direction was just because he use were it not even though i think it was it was a case of timing because sports illustrated just a couple of issues earlier had the big you know the big article about ortiz and their you know everything the year he'd have been and and you know what you know his overall vibe and i think it in there in sports illustrated's mind it might have felt redundant for them to then have another you know like two issues three issues later have another big spread with ortiz and celebrating so you're saying it's not a legitimate award then to some of the year issue but but anyway yeah i mean so i mean you know you talk about some of the big events here in boston and obviously the comebacks and everything the red sox were big part of that more than anyone but you know i you know robby bitch in the bruins there are and i mean we can talk about the but the present but i guess before we get to the president talk about what they did last season earlier alagiri year well i mean the credible comeback against toronto when you know even though they didn't it didn't add to the stanley cup that series with the black down is very memorable you know in which it is and i think if they had won the stanley cup people would be talking about them in the same tone that they're talking about the red sox because out you know the hockey playoffs was right after the marathon bombings and you know that's sort a war that was incredible that hundred thousand people and then yeah you know they come out they are on the brink of elimination they fight back from three goals down to come back and win that game against toronto and then you know plow through two of the stronger teams in hockey and the rangers and then pittsburgh to get to the stanley cup finals and it just ended up becoming too much for them having to go through you know the top three teams in the n h l it just they ran out of gas and got a little injured towards the end when they had a i mean they had a pretty fair nominal run and they've carried it into this season now with it looks like they're right on pace to be right back there too and they've had maybe even more injuries than players out of the line up than even the patriots have had and they've still been able to make fortunes to the roster size i would say yeah like the right yeah the number of it i mean they got what six six of their normal starters are right now currently out i think that includes shot jordan who's technically on suspension right but but still i mean the a lot of these ruins fly is i mean i think that's even more the blue well i don't think it but right now i mean you're coming off last year series you got a good list switching teams now he's on the other side of that rivalry and granted i know he's kind of new to both teams sack so that they have had a lot of there's been a lot of issues between the two teams but i still don't think it's as nasty as the i thought i still would put the bruins and canadians over that but i think yeah i think it's always going to be like that but there is a good   talking about the year in boston sports will also talk about what's currently going on i want to we will throw in rob's request we're going to spend a couple minutes talking about the boston celtics who actually are playing hard and you know what for the record you know i know there's been folks out there who something's got the draft pick once the odds are probably be dead by the next time the celtics get the drought to go get them wonder out again and every team would get the number one draft pick every year and then there'd be some formula to try to determine like if you got the number one draft pick the next year of crazy again you know the celtics are out there playing hard they're winning i mean brad stevens i mean they talk about how the n b a is a players league but it almost seems like all the players on the celtics are kind of like following the lead of their coach i mean here's a guy you know out of college i'm self better now than he was in the days of paul pierce and kevin garnett because in those days you know some of those were more defensive team they slid the ball down a lot and that really took away run rondo strengths to run and run of the ball and that's where brad stevens taking most of this january off we will be back on the twenty seventh however and we're going to a special get that's our twentieth anniversary show by the twentieth anniversary 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