and then you and then you in searching out other assets you found another sum of money that was owned by one of the judgment doubters have in possession your turn and you got to turn over proceeding with regard to that correct yes your honor you had a total sum of money in your drastic organ in dollars how much formally now with regard to the judgment or the turnover charge did either one of those judgments authorize you to take a fee of one third that's not specific during your jersey assy proceedings that you look at because the new jersey proceeding says that the judgments did not determine your entitlement to a fee that you danny into a free arrangement that was governed by new jersey law which is not as favorable as contingency arrangements with your clients and and you sought to try and use a new york new york law with regard to contingency fee now your office or court still years you're suspended but years  new jersey dream this in for that you were just far more complex than that i cannot answer yes no i like to but it's more complex why i've read the new jersey judgment and i think of my litigate history i don't like it being that he won or you know the sad thing for me is that i think if you'd had another attorney representing you you could have solved all this you would have not gotten yourself this far first apartment second department or second department decided to to not take your license from seems to me having been a state practitioner for many many years if you would simply because you did a great thing this is the irony of this case you did a great thing you took a case that languished for years fifty years and you put life into it and you got your clients a boatload of money but then you got into a fee dispute with them and that the dispute cost you your license in new jersey i know  u look at this but frankly had i mean on the practical side of this is julie you obviously have to be a pretty intelligent guy you won the case i know you i know and you were you how many years and you've been admitted at the time that you should do and not do you would still have your license i agree with you here to make me cry or maybe you should have another lawyer now to you if i got someone i would but this is this a case is different that different notified the second department if you didn't discipline did you notify the second department after you were disbarred in new jersey when you've been disciplined in another jurisdiction did you know that you had that obligation i did not hear as if i was there it's your right that's why you needed a lawyer to advise you knew something about this you had an affirmative obligation to let them know because when you were admitted to practice in new york during terms and conditions of your admission one of them were that you not be disciplined in other jurisdictions and that  on the premises that misconduct in other jurisdictions you could be disciplined in new york because new york has a vested interest in lawyers who who are an ethical in other jurisdictions might be unethical here and so therefore there can be disbarment or or disciplinary proceedings brought against lawyers for their conduct outside the jurisdiction that's why your new jersey action was dismissed and or ok so now you're claiming that the attorneys who brought the petition against one of the allegations which was you've been disbarred and in new jersey yet somehow they violated your constitutional rights because they did what they were supposed to do because you had been disbarred in new jersey they brought a proceeding saying look he's been just to like a second department set is it feed to speak you problem is that you took the money put it in your children's name then moved it to a chinese bank account and then moved it back into your own name no no no that's not