equally horrific and are of an intentional and affirmative nature of actually passing a known sexual harasser teacher to a neighboring school when john white's pedophilia group in the noose was appellee john hi specific charges but it appears to be much worse than the issues he faced here i'm glad we took the steps we did to get him out of the district i believe it was you who said he said the mclean defendants passing white was troubling and it constituted a quiet shuffling of an abusive teacher to the next district with impu nobody knew about maybe they should maybe they should have checked out very gone to the classroom done something differently if he was the gun in the back we would not be here today john i like was different because a lot of people at mclean  knew a lot of things about john like now i don't have to waste my time in this argument telling you because both parties are abandonment play just finished telling you all about what mclean knew about john white back when he was teaching like affirmative and intentional healing to investigate parental complaints of white sexual misconduct i i don't know if it's relevant in this appeal but having represented mclean they are white victims in both positive over the preference to me it was discovered was not done i don't know who it was given to i don't know quite gave it to twenty five schools one school no schools i just know but discovery could it could find protection from a public employee which is not normally provide so the supreme court in moran leone and calumet city has said that that direct and immediate control has to do with the difference of the public protection risk created by mclean when they passed white so the entry of the girl subgroup was created that situation injurious and dangerous situation was created that peril was created by the passing of white complaint defendants raised absolute immunity i hadn't heard of it for a while had to look it up but absolute and unity has been sparingly applied in certain high public official cases  when there is an overriding consideration of public policy i hope this court will not find an overriding public policy to protect the passing of pedophiles or to immunize that under this immunity that is for that chi position of the parents but it's not used in the more recent cases seen i've never seen it and have never seen that section two two a long discretionary beauty has also aware certainly educators and high level educators should these pedophiles of views over and over again they don't have normal sexual proclivities they want an abnormal amount of sexual that raises an interesting palace the issue as to what mclean is doing and what other school districts will continue to around the country and around the state of illinois if they're allowed to do so much parents and children who are trying to learn that it should be cut off at the pass that's not a motivation that we can say whatever they want in discretionary high level important things that take a lot of thin information confidential but i thought you would be interested in hearing that john mike was arrested in panic today i don't know the specific charges but it appears to be much worse than issues he faced here i'm glad we took this we took the steps we did to get him out of as expressed in restatement three twenty four a second and i think that second three twenty four is a i think what's what's interesting about this legal concept is that if you're going to simmer down all the issues in this case it really he said you were full school year title to that information i don't know the answer there i'm just because again we haven't got into the discovery that we give me that answer but i would assume they would because there is a verified form that has to be of education to to provide that information i mean this is something that we're going to as concluded something that other school districts should know when a teacher is being moved along so if i went to the department i could hold this for me look yes it's a public record you're on your own and what's interesting to also about that record i think is that as i think was conceded by the defendant in the previous oral arguments that  their full term throughout the school year that the second thing of course would be failing to invest a few points and this is particularly frustrating to me because well you just through the day at least so far does not contain private cause of action  sure that we that we have evidence for may have retained evidence as to where exactly that letter of recommendation went but it certainly is it means that the plane schools despite the knowledge they had falsified that information for anyone who was no five except the state mandated court they've got that indicated you were there for three years he was let go and their relationship ended with him in april two thousand and five which is that  there's no duty there's no life it's there's not a case in illinois or anywhere else which is lowered the bar for requiring wrecked immediate  rule argument that this is new only means that this case is different every case is different but the application of the principles in this case is uniformly been the case on the problem with their identified which gives there is no relationship that exists between clay county unified plaintiff in this case in every aspect of this case and every aspect of any  found with respect to all the allegations and all the theories that have been raised here that there simply is no relationship and without that relationship and like believes it has also raised the issue regarding ankara  there it is a discretionary act in the courts of determining that there is discretion has to be applied in making our court and there the reasoning behind that is that if there is no discretion of the words if there's even a suspicion and there's the that's where the remedies along restrictive it seems to be that there when counsel is raising also this voluntary undertaking theory it's been brief but point to shoot or kill the other partner some of the partners knew they didn't tell the the intended target of this in the courts and we're not going to experience life so we're not going to indicate there are some dut that runs from an independent third party to another to prevent some criminal act i suppose is why it takes voluntary undertaking out of is also indicated that the there is a statement section section three twenty four also applies this case   or should expand that liability were other courts have clearly indicated look at this issue through the southern circuit and found there was no absolutely no basis to expand liability keep in mind that act i think the problem for the plaintiffs this case if they cannot draw that nexus in their pleadings because there's no evidence and no basis for finding it that this employment experience verification would have generally or the steps that are being immunized and the local doctor however if the public duty doctrine is applied to our facts area then the special duty exception should apply and i think significantly the lower that the tortfeasor is responsible for the end result of that voluntary undertaking no matter how distant it is as long as it's reasonably foreseeable as long as there's there's causation there that makes it a reasonably foreseeable that and i certainly think it's reasonably perceivable bet someone who is a pedophile now being released out to the public may very well harm me again when fines  which is it's extraordinary thing for a school district to do they were not however concerned enough that it's hard to not write a glowing letter of mediation for them to not to report that fact accurately