good evening welcome to the second public meeting of the year twenty eighteen we're glad that you are here we will begin with the roll call please weeks and after that we will have the pledge of allegiance we would love it if you would join us in standing for those two items your wise and loving father first let me say thank you on behalf of all who have gathered here today thank you for your many and abundant blessings thank you for life itself for the measure of he well for freedom to embrace you thank you for your thank you for loving us even from loving us even so from your boundless and gracious nature in the scriptures you have said that citizens ought to obey the governing authorities since you have established those very authorities to promote peace and order and justice therefore i pray for mayor for various levels of city officials wisdom to govern it in the conflicting interests and issues of our time a sense of the welfare and true needs of our people a keen thirst for justice and righteous confidence in what is good in fitting the ability to work together in harmony even when there is honest disagreement personal peace in our lives and joy with our task i pray for the agenda set before us today please give us assurance of what would please you and what would benefit those who live and work in and around our beloved city of holland it is in your most  thank you mike now we're going to do the consented genda which means the clerk will read a list of of several items and we plan at the end of that reading to address those with one motion and one vote but maybe one of those things would be something that you came here to talk about and if that's the case at the end of his reading i will open it up and whoever would like to take something off the consented genda is welcome to come to the podium give us your name and address and the number of the item you would like pulled from the consented genda and then we will handle that in the sequence that it appears in the agenda so stay tuned to him could you please read that list  study session item four c to accept and file executed oaths of office from various boards and commissions item twelve a one to approve a twenty year extension of the agreement with the michigan d n r parks and recreation division for an easement in a right of way to the site used for the placement of dredging material from the inner channel of the lake  eighty three to approve the h b p w proposed fee schedule for frontage assessments trunk edges lateral service stub and water service the fees as recommended item twelve a for her to approve the system interconnect facilities agreement with michigan electric transmission company for the process of completing the sale of two breakers and associated equipment inside the black river substation at its tie point to the bulk of electric system the sale of breakers one eighty eight and three eighty eight requires an interconnected agreement don't twelve a five to approve a change order to the original contract with coming in roosevelt's for the twenty eighth street project from central avenue to the former river avenue right away to cover the additional expense incurred up to a total contract value of four hundred ten thousand dollars approved a transfer from contingency of twenty five thousand dollars to the sanitary funds for a total sanitary budget of two hundred  twenty five thousand dollars item twelve d one to refer a claim filed against the city to the city's insurance carrier and city attorney for consideration item twelve a three point one to approve the bid submitted by b s and sports for the purchase of t shirts for the two thousand eight hundred calendar year recreational programming in the amount of four dollars and fifty cent for a one color screen print shirt and five dollars and fifty cents for a two color screen print shirt to be paid out of the recreation department budget item twelve a three point two two prove  the agreement with audible county for the provision of the two thousand eight hundred sentence work abatement program cost for this service to be provided through the parks and recreation division budget subject approval as to form by the city purchase of one two thousand eight hundred ford fusion from signature ford at a cost of seventeen thousand three hundred fifty six dollars i'm in the vehicle insurance fund budget to facilitate a transfer of one thousand one hundred thirty two dollars and seventy five cents to the centralized vehicle and equipment fund i'm in the vehicle equipment fund in the i'm out seventeen thousand three hundred fifty six for the purchase and declare the two thousand and fourteen ford fusion as surplus item twelve a four point four to declare a surplus items acquired by the police division with donations the made be to be made to seventy times seven and also in property room dot com for disposal and sale item twelve a four point five to approve the purchase of seating for the community and neighborhood services department for interface interiors in the amount of thirty three thousand five hundred eighty seven dollars and fifty three cents to the m i purchasing program to be funded through the municipal capital improvement fund i don't twelve the four point six to nov two thousand and seventeen monthly financial reports as presented item twelve six point two to approve a first amendment to the two thousand and seventeen attachment a one of the employer group agreement with priority health for the provision of web m d online platform starting february one two thousand and seventeen it is december thirty first two thousand and eighteen the additional costs of five hundred dollars and twelve dollars per employee cost for those who utilize the health assessment physician verification form to be funded through the wellness programs fund subject to approval as to form by the city attorney i six point three to approve the appointment of matthew holmes p s d board to fill that to fulfill the remainder of mr kyle espers term which will expire december of two thousand review to assist in its annual taxable valuation appeal deliberations item twelve six point six two approve the submittal of a grant application to the michigan humanities council in the amount of nine hundred  eighty nine dollars and if approved thought arise the mayor and city clerk to execute any necessary documentation on behalf of the city subject to approval as to form by the city attorney item twelve east seven point one two approve the emergency replacement of the air conditioning unit that serves the i t server room in the amount of twenty six thousand nine hundred ninety five dollars as quoted by van dyke  funded through the mists of all capital improvement fund thank you sir now that is a long list perhaps something on their peak your interest and you came tonight to talk to us about that if that's the case please come to the podium give us your name and address and which item you would like removed from the consent agenda don't from the that was tabled the city council regular meeting minutes we need to have two of those right we need to have a motion to remove them from the table and then a motion after that's approved a motion to approve the minutes ok that's what i would like right to have a motion to remove this item from the meeting minutes  i'm sorry there for consideration thank you who would like to do that support of my bird let's keep that going all those in favor say aye aye oppose same sign that carries now we do the motion to remove the traffic change from the table item for us tonight thank you brian recall this came before council last regular session and as we do as is typical with these sorts of things having to do with traffic and regulations with traffic we typically table  those and allow for the city clerk's office to notice the adjacent property owners so that they can provide input input four action at a subsequent council meeting so  that all has been done and as of the latest update to the written report which was yesterday there wasn't any comments that have been received now today i actually spoke  with two different folks one individual has students who attend the school and then the other individual actually resides at two fifty two west twentieth street in the south side of twent street both of those comments had to do with the idea of actually switching the parking restriction from the north side to the south side of twent street basically still allowing for a little bit better traffic movement through there particularly particularly during school pick up and drop off times it certainly has merit i even think there's a couple of folks in the the the item indefinitely so that one we can go back to the traffic committee with this new input and then come back to council what we really need to do is with those properties to the south  particular we need we need to re notice them let them know that this potentially could involve the south side as opposed to the north side so we want to certainly complete that step before we take any action thank you brian so  it went to the south side when with those people that be parking there just during the morning and evening rush with the school or what would you recommend this so it would certainly be during school days and that's something that i think we would deliberate at the traffic committee as to how far we want to construct that have to look at that promote from an enforcement standpoint as well so that's a good venue to kind of get that perspective on it as well but i think you know it's certainly worth more deliberation and we can do that with with all those parties at the traffic committee and then come back to you with a revised recommendation ok great it does look like they may be some people who came tonight to talk about this particular issue and if that's the case you are welcome to come to the podium before council takes any action on this and you can tell us what you think and would you prefer need to give us your name and address and then you have five minutes to speak green lights go yellow light one minute left and red light your five minutes are up members of council good evening my name is ted mack four o eight west thirty fifth street in holland michigan i'm a parent of two children at home language academy and i spoke with brian today suggesting that the proposed traffic restriction indeed be flipped from the north side to the south side my reasoning for this primarily is the safety of the children if we allow parking on the north side of the street as opposed to the south side that will let parents drop off and pick up their children on that side of the street without having them cross twenty street in the mid block so i think that that was my goal is to assure the safety of the children primarily as a parent who's gone through that drop off line gone down twentieth street there isn't a whole lot of on street parking that occurs there so i don't know how much it will negatively affect those residents i see most residents parked on driveways or in garages there's very little on street parking and i also think it will assist chef container as they come through and try to pick up trash when there are cars parked through there they can't use their automated truck because they have to get out manually because they're further out into the street and finally just to consider the number of days this would affect those residents living on twent street for twenty seven hundred twenty eighteen home public school had one hundred eighty one instructional days which is roughly half of the year of those days only fifty two of them are when overnight street parking is allowed so there's the school days between october fifteenth and may fifteenth so i believe that that removes any concern about the morning pick up because most residents if they haven't parked on the street overnight they won't be there in the morning so we're talking about fourteen percent of the days in a year where there could be a conflict so in the morning the signage that i'm suggesting is no parking no stopping no standing on school days from seven thirty am to eight thirty pm and two thirty pm to three thirty pm so that will only restrict during those peak times on school days not on holidays weekends and will allow full use of parking on both side of the street at other times thank you for your time thank you ted i'm out one zero four five three felt street in zealand i believe in holland i have three girls at a chili my wife's a director i direct traffic so i pretty much know it's it's horrible ted said are right on one thing i would change and that would be that am pick up her seven twenty eight twenty in the morning because school starts at seven twenty to address this as any questions for brian and a discussion like now we appreciate you thinking this all through brian and taking it to the traffic committee and working at all out in the noticing everyone and and then all of a sudden we have last minute feedback and here pausing to rethink it and we appreciate that flexibility and and now attentiveness to people's opinions and input and they have some really good point so i'm sure the traffic committee would want to reconsider that so maybe counsel wants to make that possible you moving on to public comment perhaps you came to see evening to talk about something that doesn't appear later on the agenda that will be talking about this if that's the case is your time just make your way to the podium give us your name and address and you would have five minutes to address co same and to say thanks for a time thank you for caring about government and learning about it anyone else want to address counsel hello i magnan green also green valley student live in allendale and most are n p r fessor cottons class and thank you for being here this evening and a greeting thank you pass on our regards to professor kat and anyone else interested in addressing council this evening seeing that you're not going to talk about ok that's fine it is kind of part of public comments i'll come on down clerk's office as you are aware you had a city council and mayor's election on november seventh allegheny county had several other jurisdictions with elections as well he was a nice opportunity for the city of holland and i know of county to work those new machines in on the other side of the border outside of the city hellion county has not yet received its new machines so will we look forward to learning from the city and from ottawa county what you learn in working with those machines and and what we can do to partner together and work on those elections on down the line we did in working with our county and and the city of how on managed to get the results from throughout the district up on line by ten thirty and then everybody out of office by eleven o'clock that's a good night down at one thirteen chestnut analogous so we hope that that continues i did make sure that each member of council receive a copy of the annual report from the clerk and register deeds to the  allegheny county board of commissioners if you're receiving if you have the paper copy that's probably in black and white that saves us a little bit of money if you receive the on line copy that's the color version with all of the stats and statistics it's probably much easier to look at in the color version while i certainly won't read the entire report to you i would like to draw to your attention something that i did bring up last time i was here before council just a few months ago we said that we had a campaign in the office to encourage all of our veterans throughout allegheny county to bring down their d d two fourteen as their papers of honorable discharge and have filed those at the county is the first step to ensuring that all of our veterans get their benefits that they are entitled to both state and federal while this report only goes through the third quarter of two thousand and seventeen because when i first got elected and was sworn in about last year at this time i was told i had to turn over an annual report to the commissioners not numbered on an annual report so i asked if i could believe that more time and so it's about twenty pages longer than the last ten you report that's what happens when you tell a former english teacher that he's got to report it's earned over to the board relative to that we encourage veterans throughout ellington county that we had forty four letter and come down and turn in those just charge papers remember when they come down they get their original back they get a certified copy in forever and ever they and their family and their heirs are able to access to forever a number for those benefits that number of forty four is the longest that we've seen at least going back to two thousand and six which is long as our office been keeping those on line so we're pretty pleased about that we appreciate everybody's help purging our betters to do so if i may this campaign was a really neat opportunity to both thank those who have served our country and to get to know them as they came down met an adorable couple from from he who both of whom served in the military at different times the wife was a nurse during the vietnam war and her husband served just slightly before her they met afterwards and married and as they were leaving our office for our services i went to hand them a copy of the latest veterans benefits the latest guide to better benefits bills state and federal and they turned it down they said no no thanks we were we don't need it we're doing fine said the way you've earned these benefits and in a very west michigan and allegheny county way they said that's right we don't need them same for someone who does and i thought that was a really neat opportunity also meant a mare got to meet the granddaughters of mr obie van dam now i don't know obie van dam and or didn't know him then damn served our country and world war one and return from the european theater in one nine hundred nineteen and when he did he filed his papers of honorable discharge there at the clerk's office probably never knowing what might come of that one day i was in the office about three months ago and the phone rang there were two young ladies on the phone they said we were looking for our grandfather's d d two hundred fourteen and we checked out of what county we can't find it might you have it down there and i looked up on the computer real quick and i found that in fact we did have the discharge papers van dam and they said boy could we come down and see those it would mean a lot to us i'd sure i said sure come on down whenever so the next day they showed up i was able to take them back in the vault where we keep the same discharge papers of civil war veterans and many other people and they were able to see their grandfather's original signature i was able to make them a certified copy and you're wondering why they came down in the first place while they were walking through the family cemetery not far from here and noticed that mr van dam's grave was not marked with an american flag on veterans day and they thought that there was kind of important so they needed a certified copy of that in order to send off to the veterans department to get the marker on the grave so that forever and ever now their grandfather will have that american flag there so if you know any veteran even if they don't need their benefits who still have not filed their duty to fourteen's in whatever county they live please encourage them so that is so that their grandchildren someday have that same opportunity it as obama names granddaughters would love also like to mention briefly that it did recently declare myself a candidate for the twenty six state senate district that's the district that covers van buren county allegheny county gains township in canton kent the city of can't win in can't county that's an open seat because of term limits as you're aware senator shoe makers has less than a year in the chamber and you'll have to elect a new state senator if you live in allegheny county with that would take any questions or concerns you have to the annual report business in the clerk's office training else so if a veteran is in allegan county part of the city of holland they should contact you come on down to the county clerk's office i'd love to meet them ok great anyone else questions or comments thank you babs good to see a bit again yeah appreciate your work thank you ok now we're moving and down to the adoption of ordinances a proposed ordinance amendment for minors in possession of alcohol this this ordinance section twenty seven miners and possession of alcohol is is one of those and the state recently updated its statute under the old version of the statute an offense a first offense was a misdemeanor and subsequent offenses where the state changed that to make the first offense a civil action and so what are witnesses doing here is updating it to to reflect what the state did civil infraction is treated as a less serious than a misdemeanor a second offense would still be of misdemeanor and then we provided as a state statute does that the court can order defended minor in possession to attend a substance abuse counseling sessions to deal with the problem if there is a problem and then that's unusual a bit for a civil infraction but that was added to feel to cover that situation court also has the ability to issue an order to order breath testing or blood testing for an individual under the appropriate circumstances that's a bit unusual but it would be a tool that's useful in some situations and so we would recommend adoption of the ordinance amendment so we really don't have a choice that changed at the state level and we need to be in line with that yeah we have a choice of doing nothing and then we cannot prosecute the minor in possession by the way minor is not eighteen and under is twenty one and unders defined in there but yeah we would not be able to prosecute without being able to have this amendment ok thank you and the thinking is probably to help people at the right time rather than label them with a criminal something moved by peter's support supported by and then yes right so rather more procedural question but why can't we just have something in place that just makes whatever the state has we don't have to whatever the state has on file there are a few instances where we can do that like a building code but but not here learn something every night thanks it's probably has some social value as well medavoy i don't understand the wisdom behind this i really don't it's counterproductive it's coner it to it it's sending the wrong message i understand that we can't do anything about it we have to be in compliance we can't be stronger than in the state law we can't prosecute without this being here but i just don't understand the wisdom reuse don't people make mistakes fully understand that but you also have to be responsible for your actions and i'm thinking this is a i might be so liberal the only liberal way l b j is this is give it a geo free card what message are we sending i just don't understand i'm definitely be voting against this although it's a symbolic vote at this point but i want to be supporting this would be interesting if they studied the effect of it if it has been taken so long but it deals worth it with purchase possession and and consumption but possession would be possession of the container of alcohol so they may have abuse but it's a free pass in the sense that it's not a criminal conviction that that's correct now that might or in possession situation could dovetail with another type of violation which would not be affected here such as a drunk driving type offense that would not be affected by this ordinance well there's a lot there and it could be summed up i think rather shortly and in that the these are efforts to clean up some things in the ordinance code over the years things changed like names of departments other section numbers in the ordinance code statute numbers so for the most part these are cleanups affixing names numbers reference numbers and also fees sometimes were set by ordinance in the past and we've been going to have an fisa by resolution because it's easier to deal with adjustments of fees and so that they do that there's four areas where it's different in that section in chapter two section two thirty four updates the section to deal with  deadlines for nominating petitions we talked about that with a resolution adopted a while back to comply with state law fourteen chapter fourteen section fourteen dash four point one includes in the definition of an unfit structure the lack of proper means for disposal of refuse chapter twenty five as seems like a little bit of an odd one that deletes the plumbing code but that doesn't really delete the plumbing code because it's now included in the construction code so it's in a different place so that becomes obsolete in our ordinance code and lastly chapter thirty four we delete some two articles dealing with taxi regulation because under state law cities are no longer allowed to regulate taxis so that would be a summary of all of those sections thank you ron spring cleaning for code all right thank you any comments from counsel about a motion yes byrd yes peters garcia yes we're to board yes the motion passes seven zero thank you clairvoyant member there knowing that his name will be calm and to amendments to chapter eleven with the fire insurance can you explain that first one sure this involves two things one is an amendment to chapter eleven of the ordinance code and the other is the adoption of a resolution under under the well by state statute the city is able to and has been participating in a escrow program that requires escrow of a percentage of proceeds from fire insurance losses and the purpose of that escrow is to ensure that that that once a fire happens in a structure that things are either repaired or the debris is removed and it's cleaned up every now and then we've seen a situation where it's become quite a nuisance to have a burned out structure hanging around for a long time and so this allows for that state statute again was changed for this program it was it increased the amount of the proceeds that could be required for escrow changes the process for the city to participate in the program actually used to be by ordinance down by resolution and so our ordinance amendment does away with the old ordinance sections and just indicates the city will do this by resolution and then we adapt we propose adoption of a resolution that is consistent with a statute indicating the city participates in that escrow program and that sums it up so we recommend the option of the ordinance amendment and public works and we have the general manager dave custer here to tell us with that resolution about the purchase of renewable energy credits thank you sir good evening madam arun member city council nice to be with you this evening yes this item customers some of those resources are classified as renewable such as wind we have actually a couple of contracts in some larger wind farms one in michigan one indiana and then we have contracts for landfill gas generation from several different landfills in the state of michigan as i mentioned before because the multi state region these resources are geographically spread out when we  buy these resources really doing it for three main purposes one to help fulfill the goals of our community energy plan second really is to look at our mandates that we have energy legislation state which requires all electric electric providing organizations to have up to ten percent or must have ten percent of their power coming from renewable resources and so we have to meet that mandatory compliance obligation in the third reason that we do this is sometimes is to provide some price stability all these contracts because they are not supplied with a fuel source other than the renewable fuels there is a very  known and fixed price for that resource so we can plan on that and that helps or stabilize our pricing as well the state of michigan's obligation is a ten percent obligation and the resources that we have amount to closer to fifteen percent of our power is coming from renewables when we buy these contracts we're actually procuring the energy from these renewable resources the ability to create electricity which is called capacity and that has a value as well and then the third item that we're getting is what's called a renewable energy credit it's the actual attribute that says that these resources have been qualified in the state and so that credit helps us as as worley what we used to meet that capacitor that compliance obligation location really matters because there are several different compliance obligations in the country michigan has one but new jersey pennsylvania other states have other compliance obligations for their providers of electricity because of the location of some of our renewable assets they are able to supply renewable energy credits to more than just one state's compliance program for example the wind down in indiana can supply i think to four or five different renewable energy compliance programs  the landfill gas in the ses or southwest part of michigan can provide to i think about three different states and so what we're able to do on an annual basis is we're able to look at the real we're energy credits were see from these resources and find the highest value marketplace because these credits are essentially bought and sold as a commodity just like any other commodity and where there is higher demand for a product in an area where there's then the supply there's a price escalation there what we've been able to find in the years that we've had these are noble energy contracts is that some states have had very large credit prices compared to michigan michigan's been fairly stable  the price in michigan is about a dollar per credit some of these other states that we've been able to participate in have had credit values up to around sixteen dollars so it's very significant difference between them so what we'll do is we will actually sell credits where the highest value is and then we'll buy in the state of michigan to make sure that we have enough credits to meet our compliance obligation essentially what we'll do is three the order which we do this is first we will meet compliance will meet make sure we're meeting that compliance obligation and then many at home might not know that we also offer a green program if you would like to have more than fifteen percent of your power to come from renewable the b p w offers an elective program or any of our customers businesses or residential can subscribe to additional amounts either through blocks of power that they buy or a percentage of the power that they buy to come from renewable energy as well and for those customers we retire additional renewable credits beyond the state mandate on their behalf to extent that we have credits available before they expire because these credits have a life to them we will monetize whatever's left so they dart just left and those those credits comes back to help we'll keep our costs down you know for customers and help keep our rates down so the resolution that's before you tonight is because these these transactions have to happen on a  fairly contemporaneously with each other they have to be something where we have sort of a pre authorization we are asking for a resolution to allow the staff to exit enter into sales and purchases renew our g credits this resolution would require us then after the completion of those to come back and report you know the results of those things so that is what is before you tonight happy to answer any questions tha you dave so things are moving fast in this world and you want to be able to do it when you can yeah just as we do with any power transactions on the wholesale level or any fuel transactions really it's happen on a daily basis and it's in the price changes every day so it's not the kind of thing we can say yeah let me hold that for a couple weeks and i'll get back to you you know after an authority so we really have to kind of do this on a pre authorized basis in a way up to a certain moment and come back now like that big ole mountain the coal with your feet on the questions that were really brought up in maybe so i can address here one was the cold snap you know we had a fairly cold month here a little earlier in the the month and hopefully we're coming a little bit out of that but there was a question about price stability because natural gas prices for a few days you know went pretty high pleased to announce that really we had forward contracts in place that help stabilize our situation significantly we were running hollin energy park throughout this period of time and a ctually had a little bit of excess at times as well and so we were able to bring value back to the community back to our rate payers by selling some excess when we did that we actually had a very attractive price relative to the market that we sold and so those high cost days did not impact us here in holland the other question i think that was brought up earlier that i want to address too i think there was a question about you know the cold weather also bring some other things that visibly happen at minimizing doesn't mean that it never occurred throughout the summer and into the fall there were days where you couldn't tell if the plant was running or not it really was running just was no visible emissions coming even though maybe down the road where we know of  large cooling tower in a neighboring community was having a very large plume and that's because the technology that we put on there is what's called plume abatement technology that dries the air a little bit before it comes out of the top of the  now that being said there are certain days whether it's a very foggy day or maybe it's extremely cold day words tough to eliminate it altogether but i will say even on those days it is minimize compared to what a  tower would have without plume abatement so those that are going by and wondering about that you know should know that is naturally occurring you know due to the water vapor in the process of cooling the water as it returns back to the plant to do its work so it's not harmful chemicals we're just a lot you know absolutely not and out of out of the stacks the other thing you know there's two other stacks the taller stacks the plant as well and again because of the natural gas that we have there you know we've eliminated anything like mercury or lead emissions you know compared to coal fired generation and we've virtually eliminated sulfur dioxide emissions we've cut nitrogen oxides down by ninety plus percent and we've cut our carbon dioxide in half and so you know when you look at that you know it's a much better much cleaner facility for our community and it's working very well for us great thank you for that explanation i'm sure people have been wondering so he appreciates that so tim we need to call the roll for that vote for that resolution and start thinking oh all right move by peter's i thought we had great support supported by land sorry now could you please call the serving of beer in wine for the maple palooza event that saturday march twenty fourth between eleven and three pm so this is a site that is approved site for this purpose and you're in the liquor policy for the say on consumption of alcohol on public property so the recommendations are to adopt a resolution approving the digraph nature sent a request for the fund raising event and instruct the clerk to prepare the required documents and for him to the liquor control commission thank you they will follow all the rules and we have done this before right this is been several years i think ok do we have a motion from coun year is make amendments in the middle part of the year and then wilmet amended again maybe during the budget process and then at the end of the year the reason we like to get these amendments made now is because it assists us as we start preparing our budget and we try to true up some of the costs that we now know when we prepare the budget back in march of two thousand and seventeen we certainly didn't know a lot of things including what were the health insurance rates going to be what staffing might be in the month of august or september or december depending on various they can seize and those kinds of scenarios there are two major  components to the change in this year's budget and i'm going to talk about both of briefly the first is the city received a much smaller amount of personal property tax reimbursement from the state of michigan this year it was due to some changes in how the state calculated the distribution of funds and in addition to that there were some information that wasn't given wasn't properly posted for the state when they made their calculation which the outcome of that is that the city receipt will receive about one point one million dollars less than what we had budgeted that's a pretty big number the impact on the general fund is six hundred sixteen thousand dollars and there's other impacts or other budgets including the debt service fund the missed couple improvement from the road fund and that sort of thing we believe the city will recover a part of that amount we're not sure if it'll be the full amount we think it could likely be close to the full amount but we're not exactly sure but proselyte not until next year we're not exactly sure yet so that's the first change i spent some time earlier discussing with the council exactly how that calculation was done but the reality is is that this will impact the net bottom line of our general fund in the current year as we are amending it to have a negative amount of approximately three hundred thousand dollars we made some other adjustments to counteract this loss of six hundred sixteen thousand dollars but that's a pretty significant impact to the cit general fund budget and to other budgets the second major budget impact is related to when pension bonds were sold this budget assume that we would have those sold prior to the beginning of the fiscal year which began in july consequently we levied part of what we normally would put in our operating milage and we put that in the debt service milledge because we aren't selling bonds until january in fact we plan a price those tomorrow because we aren't selling bonds so january there is a surplus amount of money sitting in the debt service fund currently we are proposing that we transfer eight hundred forty five thousand dollars from the debt service on put that back into the general fund where we have been making pension payments to michigan miniscule employees retirement system during the months of july through january those payments included a large unfunded accrued actuarial liability component and starting in payments following the sale of the bonds in the distribution of funds to murders that amount obese decreased significantly so were adjusting our what we need to to have paid merz these past months what we won't need to be paying lawyers in the months ahead i understand i'm in the weeds here but we believe that the net about should be adequate to give us enough money to cover our debt service payment of approximately two hundred thirty five thousand dollars in in june and leave us with some funds in the general fund to pay for the costs that i mentioned earlier so all that to say those are two critical motion  impacts there's a number as i said staffing adjustments and benefit costs and those kinds of things are some minor other adjustments included such as curial verse from the fiscal seventeen budget in various funds there's a transfer of fifty thousand for the music capital improvement to the so most fun there is some minor other adjustments and i can go through the details of love and pages of those if it was interested but the bottom line is our general fund based on this information will show a deficit of two hundred ninety two thousand dollars in the current year's operations in fiscal eighteen however after that's all said and done there still will be a three point four million dollars fund balance there and i'm not concerned in the current year i am certainly concerned in future years what this reimbursement from the state could look like those will all be addressed as we start talking in our remember most times this is a much more complicated budget adjustment amid your budget adjustments and it's due to a number of things like to mention certainly the one point two million dollar difference and certainly the timing of the pension big numbers and when you look here at how these things have been accounted for and handled in this recommended amendment to you i just want to i think it reflects the work and the expertise that's needed in our finance office i was looking at some numbers the other day with tim if you think about some of the savings that you are going to be making just by the way you're doing the pension bonding i mean you're saving taxpayers long term millions tens of millions of dollars by doing that you save several million dollars by the way you bonded to portion of the civic center project you know we're talking about significant savings just by the way these things are done by the way they're bonded by the timing of the bonds in just a matter of months or a months if you switch the timing of when you do this can have a snick significant impact on the cost to our residents and i just want to applaud the finance office to in particular but certainly his staff in thinking in these terms and thinking about ways to save the community the taxpayers money by doing these things and the timing of it it's just impressive i mean  we count on them to think like that but it just impresses me when i step back and put it pull everything together of just how well that works for our community so thank you jim you and your staff and so anyway just reflected on that i thought about that as i was looking through this recommendation to you tonight it's mind boggling how many individual items in individual transactions are handled in that department in a year and that just the budget is five to six hundred pages so it's a lot thank you any other comments or questions yes wayne yeah just one quick comment here and we talked about the sub stairs for but  i guess my concern is the personal property that the state has changed that formula and it's really promoted business and there's that always that trade off when i look at what has happened at the federal level helping business and with the state of michigan has helped help the business and that's great but that money's going to come from somewhere to fill those gaps and they concern is that it's going to fall back on the property owners of small property owners in the city of holland and other places so there's no free lunch and it looks like we're putting ourselves in jeopardy here and we were sort of promised from the state that they would find other ways of funding that those lost revenues and it sounds like maybe they haven't done their job doing that that looks like a really huge problem that i'm really concerned about and if i'm wrong help me out that's why i s i will support this over i mean i think we have to misunderstand what i'm saying but we get caught in the crosshairs of these things and the severity uncomfortable position to be  property tax that were paid in two thousand and thirteen it doesn't address what we would have seen in the year two thousand and seventeen given the last several years of growth in our industrial investments in  the plants and that sort of thing but it does attempt to reimburse us for what we had back in two thousand and thirteen so and i'm hopeful that will be recovering some of these dollars if not all of the dollars that we had budget in the current year but i can't speak i will say that in the past years they have been true to that promise from two thousand and fourteen fifteen and sixteen and actually paid us just a little bit past the amount that we  had expected based on that two thousand and thirteen year but as we discussed upstairs that it appears that our base year of two thousand and thirteen is a little bit different from what how those calculations have been previously so that will impact us in the future years going  that and i think also just in terms of just being good stewards of the money we didn't go and spend that and we also didn't go in budget for that we actually budgeted consistent with what we were planning on last year so the funds are there we have a very strong valid position and it's also a mid year adjustment so we'll see how the rest of the or turns out because i think we sat this time last year we were projecting you know some of the same favorable positions that we ended up with so that the team continues to do good things and follow good process to make sure we're managing our funds well so i think that's the yeah it's a big scary number in terms of one thing but really it's us doing our due diligence and conservatively estimating kind of where we're going to end up so that we don't we don't end up in a bad position so we can we can put actions and place to work to remedy that then to the your number so thank you for that thanks frank anyone dollars perks and recreation to graphic nature center the national christian foundation of west michigan five thousand dollars brom bergen's fifty dollars the parks and recreation civic center improvement civic center place improvement project to hayworth a donation of one hundred sixty seven thousand dollars as part of a five hundred thousand dollars in cash over a three year period was received parks and recreation donation of a thousand dollars their various donation box monies from july through december in the amount of a thousand and fifteen dollars to ninety one cents in the public safety department the canine program s holding two thousand dollars public safety department community policing program newell brand's two thousand dollars community human relations commission years six the fs twenty nine youth connections program technic ott fifteen hundred dollars it's recommended these donations be accepted with appreciation and expression of gratitude be forward to said donors thank you tim motion to accept  greg i'll take what i want thank you very much sir thank you mary council and what we have for you tonight is a recommendation from the civic center board regarding a liquor license at the civic center those recommendations read a couple  slides when they go through here but the recommendation from the board is that the city continues to allow the sales of alcohol at the civic center and that the city holds the license the michigan liquor code actually dedicates a available liquor license for municipalities with a population over ninety five hundred for a civic center that license cost for what we're recommending to you this evening is actually under a thousand dollars so it's a pretty significant cost savings to us th going out and according one of the open market the board also recommends that the city apply for the most extensive license possible that would include beer wine liquor a classy liquor license  include sales on sunday and in the events and the farmer's market in the civic center itself they're recommending that you begin this application process as soon as possible the process to apply for a liquor license to the liquor control commission can take many months the opening day of the civic center is quickly approaching what would they would like to see this in place in when the when the facility opens the application can be modified as it's in process through the liquor control commission to allow for a colder of the license in the management firm would likely be that you will be asked at a later date once a management firm is in place to adopt a policy that will limit the times of the events all of the things that actually control when alcohol could be served at the civic center in the farmer's market these recommendations come to  board and there's a significant concern that if we don't hold a license for the civic center we may actually could find ourselves in a situation where we've got an event planned we've let someone know that yes they can have a champaign toast at their their wedding at the civic center and something could happen with the other entity that held the license and that event could call through i can think of a lot of different scenarios where that would not be a very good thing they want to make sure that you know any any alcohol that would be served at the center would fall under to its training so anyone that serves it has extensive training from the state of michigan and that all liquor control codes would be followed the existing ordinance our existing city policy on alcohol in public places allows for the sale of alcohol in the civic center in the farmer's market and it's a fairly common practice and when used as a palette you can see the list on the screen over the municipalities in the state of michigan either hold or co hold a license with a management firm or avenger we also are lucky to have a liquor control consultant on the board of the civic center and there is a concern that the city through a delegation of the approval of those events to the windmill manager you will be asked once the policy once you actually go to the step of creating the policy that that limits when alcohol can be sold at the civic center in the farmer's market to amend that ordinance and most likely those changes could mirror what happens at the when the island where those events do not account for the twenty four event limit on public parks or the one per day limit also  note the city's insurance carrier recommends the city to hold a license we could either then transfer the liability of holding that license to a management firm or we could take out a actually fairly small insurance policy to the sale of alcohol at civic center at farmer's market that the city apply for the license the broadest license possible to allow the most flexibility of policy will come further down the road and that we begin that process as soon as possible thank matt i think we have comment from the audience thanks there thank you madam mayor of houston sixteen eleven highland avenue holland i brought a booklet drug safety from the allegheny county sheriff's department and they thank all the businesses for giving the money so they could have this booklet when i was a little boy the quantised club and holon rented the holland high school gymnasium that was in the basement of the building at that time and then they went to the civic center after it was built and that was one of the reasons for building the civic center for the youth sort of a youth center so a lot of things that change and i felt bad about that because serving this liquor is not something of a family type of deal and i have this book here from the sheriff's department they said alcohol is our society's chosen drugs even in holland it has a special acceptance and drinking seems to be the normal thing to do we see bars lounges on almost every corner people in the movies often make major decisions with booze and hands and parents will drink in front of their kids it doesn't mean that alcohol is safe it's a powerful drug many side effects with the body in mind it's dangerous even lethal do we want to promote that under any circumstances even though it may be legal is it moral is that right  we had in his prayer for the good of the community we could even save for the glory of god thousands of people die every year because of alcohol well we generally accepted as part of society when  used legally and responsibly but even though it's our most popular drug it's a depressant that slows down the brain's ability to think and make decisions and the first drug sampled by most children is usually alcohol in the form of beer or wine now the younger one starts drinking the more likely he or she is to drink more heavily drink stronger drinks and develop a drinking drugging problem later on and because alcohol is socially acceptable even in holland people forget that too much of it can be pope didn't and it can be deadly you can die from alcohol and i've seen fellows die from alcohol you can drink too much in a short time are metallic as the rate is different it's a very simple substance that gets into the body's organs within minutes of being swallowed it goes immediately into the bloodstream changing a person's thinking  behavior now drinkers build up a tolerance to this drug and greater quantities than are required to get the same results the only thing that will sober a person up is trying over years of heavy drinking alcohol can cause permanent liver damage brain damage heart problems cancer many body organs lower resistance to disease and a number of emotional disorders one out of every fourteen sue drink will get into some kind of trouble moderate drinking then is not usually harmful to adults except when driving or using drugs so maybe we should require they walk to and from the civic center and walk it off but young drinkers are more sensitive than most adults to the intoxicating and addictive affects of alcohol and then the liquor industry spends tons of money promoting it and about twenty percent of adults have had family problems because of others drinking now alcoholics have a hard time accepting that they've been addicted even when were they made it to others they're often a able to face it themselves so the first drinking experience average year is around twelve years old over fifty percent of all junior high students use alcohol in the past year and alcohol contributes to thirty nine percent of all driver fatal crashes learning disabilities and i can say this with children in the school i've had them and i feel sorry for him because i've known their family for sometimes three generations and they cannot learn because the brains are almost did they have a learning disability and children can be traced to the use of alcohol during pregnancy i'll just close with this this is from the grand rapids press with craig channeler and two thousand and seven it's a big problem in allegan county seventy percent of high school juniors and allegan county have drunk alcohol in the past year while one in three has used marijuana and then in  ottawa county it's not that much better so i urge you then to follow the suggestion made by mr drew through we that we not get involved in this i don't think it's good for the community i don't think it's honoring to god and one day will be accountable before almighty god so thank you very much thank you  sandra houston sixteen eleven highland holland when there is an accident a car accident what you people ask or wonder was there alcohol involved when you go to the doctor and fill out the papers they need for your history they ask do you drink alcohol  many situations we are asked do you drink if alcohol is good then why is everybody asking forty percent of accidents have alcohol in the past year on the north side of town drinking was  going on at a bar with young people then there was a fight and a guy died domestic fights alcoholism involved women are physically abused alcohol is involved recently in the paper someone said i would not have raped if i hadn't been drinking this afternoon i got a cold phone call from a lady i don't really know she said what is going on with all the alcohol on the streets of zealand what happens if alcohol is in the civic center and a fight breaks out i am one hundred percent against it the hall in the civic center another negative is all the alcohol ads in the sentinel almost every week not every day but alcohol is always pushed have you ever dealt with a person who has used alcohol for years and dealt with him and his brain and the function that it doesn't work well thank you thank you sandra any other comments from the audience close that to me have a motion from coun yes right so really appreciate the public on the input taking the time to come out and share one thing i'd like to clarify with this is that we're not actually approving in the civic center what to the road and it gets approved and we were see the liquor license at that time we would have to adjust our ordinance to even be able to to sell alcohol in that manner if correct and under the current ordinance the city can issue permits to allow alcohol to be served at events at the civic center either interior x and the exterior premises are subject to proper licensing and so the resolutions tonight would allow the process to go forward it would move the process forward to obtain the license but you're right there would be a requirement to it would be rather awkward to try and deal with the current ordinance and serving alcohol i need some ordinance and then say here that  then we can have a discussion at that time and the civic center board can address and bring a recommendation to this body on you know what how we handle that and what what that looks like him a policy standpoint in terms of allowing events but we go through this process and we don't end up getting in which doesn't sound very likely but it just in terms of what we're addressing right now all we're really doing is saying yeah ok let's go see if we can get a license and so instead of trying to get the car before the horse for me it's just you know let's look let's go get that and then once we have it and then have the conversation around what the policy needs to be about consumption or serving or all those all of those different kind of policy questions  that we have had the one thing i do have a question about is what the value of coal holding the license with the management group would be and it says well it's in process we could we could just or application to allow a cold ing relationship to exist once that would be approved are we tied on that in terms of the fact that it's co held or can we eliminate can we speed the sole owner of that liquor abuse all different kinds ironically there were three different occasions just to this meeting we talked about the state of michigan changing their viewpoints as far as young drivers are concerned we just talked about liquor licenses digraph nature center now this is the third one so this is the thing that comes over up over and over again i guess i agree with mr lynn the fact that we're really going to develop the policy a little bit later it's just we're getting the license so a poor analogy might be a fishing license or a driver's license we're saying let's get the fishing license bad example but we're not saying how many fish you can catch what size what species what time of the year a driver's license we're not saying when you can drive young teenager old person not after dark etc so it's getting a license and then we're going to have to look at it and see if it's going to fit what we perceive a reasonable situation so i guess i will support this i certainly understand one brought up to him thank you for your comments but mr lynn brought up the fact the cart before the horse i see this is if we're going to go for the license why don't we explore what we're going to do with it first get the policy in place maybe the policy doesn't fit us and we won't have to go for the license so to me this is putting the cart before the horse and i will stand strong as the head of all public alcohol alcohol in public places  ron i do have one question and i've looked a little bit after you want to have a discussion about the last time i really appreciated if you would go back and look at the ordinance that was passed and fourteen the public action that we had i don't remember at that time and i didn't read any place in there that it was both an internal and external i think we passed only the internal and it kind of morphed into that and that's kind of the i look i'm not getting the minutes real clear there so i just appreciate that we don't if in fact this passes which i will probably be the only no vote which i don't really know i'm going to stand my ground  i just want to make sure that we are legally on the right track here and are not assuming something yes i have the section twenty two dash ten of our ordinance code it was the it was has been amended several times the last being in november of two thousand and sixteen and it starts out indicating the sale possession and consumption of beer and wine is allowed at special events held at the following public facilities and then skipping  interior of the civic center the civic center parking lots eight street market area and then goes on to list others but i have you know i saw that but i also saw the action of fourteen and i don't remember because it strictly addresses the inside the interior so i'm i'm hoping that we just did not assume and grab everything all at once again i don't i'm an old man this is four years  ago i don't have the perfect memory and i just like i said i'm just trying to make sure we don't control the owner oh yes i says been amended several times and i think it i think your recollection is right at one point that it only allowed the sale on the interior of the civic center but as it reads as it's dop to most recently and i can't say which one of those amendments actually added the exteriors but as it stands now it does a lot for the exterior and maybe was just wishful thinking and i shared and i would say that this this is actually the second instance today where we've had why i've engaged in some conversation around the just the destructive nature of alcohol and while i personally don't indulge frequently i mean i i'm a pretty casual drinker it's pretty rare that i do drink i grew up in a household that that never had a call but i have and i've seen the destructive nature of alcohol but with that mean at this point i'm supportive but it has given me a lot of thought and things to consider i think for them from a personal come standpoint and we'll see how that plays out in future decisions but thank you thank you  yeah alcohol is not a good substance it is a real part of our of our world today and it gets to be a growing much much more growing reality and it is very dangerous to need to drink to celebrate to need to drink to commiserate to need to drink to make it to the next higher law and and everything you said  was true rough and softer and i know you don't come here for a casual evening you come here with a heart heavy for the future of the community and the children that can be affected in this life through adults doing things that you not be the best for them to see and i i understand all of that but i will be voting for this in order that the civic center has that choice as a possible thing to use in some type of event and as both been said several times we don't know exactly what the policy will be what our management firm would recommend and how they will control how things are done there so we really appreciate how you care and the way you have used your life experience to help others be careful about something that is such a part of everyday life in the world yes i have a appointment agreement with you that is set to expire on january thirty one two thousand and eighteen it does have a clause in it where we can extend that and thirty day increments but i am not asking that you consider doing that i have some family and personal responsibilities i just need to pay attention to so i'm going to honor the commitment i made to you to  serve as interim city manager through january thirty one two thousand and eighteen i'm sorry because i know you don't have a new manager on board and have put you in a position of having to appoint another inter juror and i know certain staff members are going to be taking out additional responsibilities during this time period but i just have to get on with some of the other responsibilities i have in my life so it's just what i need to do  hopefully you know that i have ultimate respect for each one of you i've enjoyed having the opportunity to interact with you in and working on different projects negativities over the past seven months so  i just have a lot of respect for the for the role you play for the amount of work that goes into being a council member in the way you go about your business so i appreciate working with you and also i want to say a real highlight the seven months that i've spent with you has really been working with our staff team we have i will tell you as a group i think we have the finest leadership team that i've had the pleasure working with in the city over all the years other great group like the way they approach their work and it's been a real pleasure working with them and also the other staff it's just been a real highlight for me to be able to interact with them again and to be able to talk through activities and projects and strategies and so forth and just to again experience the commitment the dedication of that they have to serving the city so i just want to make sure that those points are clear with you so thank you for the opportunity to actually to work together on various things over a relatively short period of time i appreciate that and certainly i wish everybody all the very do thank you for being willing to step up and and and say yes to coming back after you tasted a different type of schedule and a different type of life even though you still involved at the airport it wasn't the every day all day type of responsibility that the city managers position requires demands and now we know that saying yes to being asked to come back as a temporary city manager was a huge ask and now we're so grateful that you were willing to do that and then you changed your life to come back and that to the  person when i don't bring up i don't bring up the topic but to the person people have told me as a part of this organization that they have felt so blessed to have had your leadership and have your input and to learn from you that you are a leader that mentors without knowing it and know that that is a wonderful wonderful quality and your loyalty to this organization after all that you have been through in leadership here for decades over thirty and in so many capacities the downtown that we enjoy started out as kind of a rat through the second story when you were first hired there's been so many changes in holland and i know you'd be the first to say it wasn't just you but i know that you have been  behind the scenes person in so many things that we can claim as successes in the city of holland and you exhibit a loyalty that is very hard to find in today's world a level of trustworthiness that makes such a difference in how we can do things here a wisdom that comes from years of experience and life experiences we've had to navigate a lot of things and we have learned to do it with grace and determination and you have gentle strength about you where what you say you know when you say something you mean business but you mean business in a kind of way and that is also a very difficult balance to have in a leader and we're very grateful to you i don't want to know does anyone else have something to say at this time this is kind of off the d l but mike if we might break condition here nancy said an awful lot greg and when we first approached you fact just ever so little bit of history here i met greg still for twenty five years ago when his one of his first positions was downtown manager and in my previous life i was a manufacturer's rep for high voltage electric electrical equipment about the time that we were doing the downtown renovation and they were looking at the decorative lights well one of the lines that i happen to have was a decorative light  replacement greg gave me the pleasure of coming down i actually brought a pole down with a light fixture on it he nodded his head politely and looked at it said looks very nice   fortunately it was an order the bit i did get a little sweet revenge not necessarily with greg but i remember that council meeting it was in the old building in the old office up there and i was very how do i put this i was very plainly told that we were not going to be looking at fiberglass we were going to with go with cast iron under no way shape or form ok i walked out of the building a couple of years later i had the pleasure of being appointed to council and at that time mr wolf was city manager mr robinson was system city manager and the very first time that somebody brought up the fact that we have to paint those cast iron poles i just kind of looked over at management at that time said if you had purchased fiberglass you wouldn't have to do that so i did get my little revenge there but greg it has been you were a gentleman at that point twenty five years ago when you have not changed i've always respected what you have because you're calm demeanor the way that you present things i wish we could convince you to stay on just a little bit longer but i fully understood and we understood going into this knowing what you were up against family first for you always has been and that is of most respect for you because of that very lovely wife and i know that she needs you so we wish you the absolute best we know that you're not going to go away you probably will not come back for a third term as an interim public would even ask it but i haven't tigerlily enjoyed this this reunion that we've had over the last seven months you've gone through a couple rough times much more than we expected you would have to do but again all the best and we look forward to working for with you for the next couple of weeks and our prayers go out to you and your family thank you roe obviously the folks here have had more time with you and have have had the opportunity to work along side with you for much longer than i have but in the short time that that i have been able  to i would definitely say that the qualities that they have mentioned are true it is who you are and so i want to take this moment to also say and kind of invite citizens those in the room those that are listening  that will be watching to participate and of as you know we spend the next several weeks yet identifying who this next city manager will be so to ensure that we have these kinds of qualities in the i remember when i heard greg your name for the first time well maybe not the first time but first time as a term city manager and heard all these accolades and as i told you i was like who is th robinson guy and i sat back and just observed and watched and at the end here one of your biggest qualities and something that we could all learn from as your servant attitude everything that you are currently going through everything that you have been through and you have taken the time out when we needed you and that's a selfless act because seeing what you're getting ready to all the time that it's taken for you to put into this you could be put into your family but you've taken that i mean you've you've given that to us so i want to say thank you and i understand all the high accolades now and i really appreciate getting to know you and hopefully this will be the end of our communications and getting to know each other more so i've known greg for a long time as well in some different arenas so greg coached me in little league and i think i might be that lefty and i he did and i think i might be part of the reasons get some of those areas it's not somebody that's made a big impact in your life and i think that's really part of what your legacy is greg is the amount of people that you impact in this community around this table and you do it in a way that you're just going about your business and you're just being you and your authentic and so for me when i look back on my formative years you're someone that had a huge impact in my life and then flash forward a few years you don't know hey well what's it going to be and sitting here and just seeing that your leadership continue in in this position and just how grateful i am as somebody that's a young person in this community for people like you that have invested in this community and have turned it and been a huge part in in what it is and the great place that we have to grow up and so i genuinely just from the bottom my heart i want to say that's great thank you for so much for coming back and i think for the young people in their audience today that you can get an idea what we think of this gentleman and help wonderful of those to see students from grand valley from west of the world from hollands dutch dancers community members that come here and they come here because of people like great robinson who are pillars of this community and you can be a pillar of the community as well run for office be involved in government don't just sit on your chair go get active and i'm sure that would say go for it and he's a you know they kind of talk about how do you measure the greatness of a leader and i really think there's a lot to the saying that you can measure it by the number of people the person serves and that is tens of thousands in greg's situation and and as many have said you know it's effective authentic and now we are so grateful as a community i will at this time read a proclamation for martin luther king jr day whereas dr martin luther king jr devoted his life to advancing equality social justice and opportunity for all and where as dr king challenge to all americans to participate in the never ending work of building a more perfect union and whereas over more than fifty years later dr king's teachings continue to guide and inspire us in addressing challenges in our communities and in one nine hundred ninety four president ronald reagan signed into law the king holiday and service act designating the king holiday as a national day of volunteer service and millions of americans inspired by the life and work of our factor martin luther king jr has served their neighbors and communities on the king holiday and community service is an appropriate way to honor dr king meet local and national needs bring our citizens together and strengthen our communities and nation and where as we can all contribute to making our communities better by championing equality and increasing opportunity for all now therefore i need suitable were mayor of the city of holland michigan do hereby proclaim the martin luther king jr holiday of january fifteenth twenty eighteen as a day service in the city of holland call upon the people of holland to pay tribute to the life and works of dr martin luther king jr through participation in community service projects on this day and throughout the year now the days passed so obviously it means throughout the year and i do think martin luther king jr set an amazing example for us in serving the community in caring about causes beyond himself and helping to mobilize people so that they could make a difference and help people stop and think and we need to think in terms of that type of legacy and a pursue a life of service to think of ourselves as here to make other people successful i think is a very fulfilling way to live also in the last week or two we had the passing of a person that has been significant in the city of holland as a former city attorney here we have run vanderveen now before him we had andy mulder and i'm not exactly sure if indeed came right after gordon coming him he did write yes gordon was city attorney from i believe his nine hundred fifty six through nine hundred eighty six  chairman of the board of out of a savings bank in which later became america america bank and that was purchased by fifth third bank he was president of the michigan municipals attorney association he was awarded this is stink wished m a tourney's award by the michigan municipal attorney's association he was the author of our current one thousand nine hundred sixty two highland city charter he was active as a city attorney in bringing in the design windmill holland from the netherlands and to its current location at windmill island gardens he was one of the founding members of the firm cunningham dolman p c he's active in the highland community theater and he is w recognized custom gunsmith he created hunting rifles out of exotic woods and a prison precision machining and also back in twenty fourteen he had kind of a cameo appearance  there was just one little the problem that when they got near the police department there's of like the one hill in holland and the car was going down the hill and he could not stop at the brakes didn't work and he was right behind city is kind of headed the city council and so people came out of the audience and the mayor dykstra and i think jay peters and mike and i worked i didn't work to stop the car but do so appreciate all that he has done for the city of holland and it is turned into an amazing history evening where we stop to appreciate all those who have come before us and all those that are still involved with us that have made such a difference in the city that we can enjoy today and in all of that we realize the responsibility that each of us has to hand this community over even better th it came to us so we need to have another temporary city manager appointed and so ron drew up a resolution that he will be passing out now and i will read  whereas greg robinson has served as interim city manager under contract with the city since july twenty seventeen whereas greg robinson's contract expires as of january thirty one twenty eighteen and he has elected to not renew his contract at it as interim city manager the city is engaged in the search for a new city manager in the city council desires to appoint how an department of public safety chief met master as the interim city manager to succeed greg robinson and now there for the council the city of holland adopts the following resolution to appoint matt messer as interim city manager effective february one twenty eighteen to serve until further resolution by the city council or until appointment of a new city manager all resolutions in conflict with this resolution as a reason so we are going back to our temporary city manager we had before greg and we would need that's the resolution so we would need a motion and a second for that so moved you guys are in sync tonight so moved by byrd and second bore yes that resolution motion passes seven zero thank you sir we move to communications from council members is anyone have something i think mike you might have some appointments for us this evening emotional resolution but if you have a comment ok how about comments from council members mike i could work on that very good thank you tomorrow evening that would be january the eighteenth at holland heights christian reform church from four thirty to six pm there will be a an open house for the reconstruction meeting of hope avenue that will take place sometime later this summer that reconstruction will be taking law up to sixty trees very important you can see some of the the long overdue run and i both know because we travel that on a regular basis the patchwork quilt that's up there it's going to be curving gutter unfortunately it appears that we're going to be losing a few trees so what we need is we need cement but we need people to come to the meeting again tomorrow at ho d heights christian reformed church court corner of eighth and hope open house from four thirty to six pm there will be more public meetings prior to because there's going to be an assessment role on this we will have some council action taken on that with we definitely need to hear your input on that construction project so i hope to see the residents that transverse that the residents that are living along that at that meeting  we're also grateful for our chief met messer to be willing to step up and fill in in this interim and to reorganize his department so he has the freedom to do that and his willingness to take on another sphere of reach of responsibility that he's already doing a great job in public safety and to also take on the rest of the responsibility of the city we are very grateful and we are also hugely grateful to as chair of finance and clerk and working through the budget for us so we have as greg said very able people in the leadership circle right below the city manager and we really appreciate their willingness to step up and take on more so that we can bridge this time period till the hiring of a new city manager we are in the throes of that it's going very well there are quite a few applicants and some very strong applicants the interview process with for that should start in the next few weeks the estimate for hire is hopefully in march or april we are grateful for the company that's helping us with that as well so we hope you have a wonderful evening we're grateful for all those who came tonight and even stayed for the entire meeting so thank you for being a part of this evening with palin city council