move to our next agenda item which is a report from the finance officer more shepherd and road foreman nate sullivan and mona is going to take it from the top here for us working through some financial the structures the highway structures grand final analysis is the page road conver so up in the middle left their words as town cost thirteen thousand for twenty you know after that grant that's how much that cost thirty four thousand two hundred nine dollars ninety one since the grant was for one hundred twenty thousand seventy eight dollars nearly three cents which had the town spending thirteen thousand four hundred twenty dollars ninety eight cents in this is for the page road culvert that 're listening they were talking without the fema declarations from may in july of last year and mourners telling us that the total revenue from the feds in the state come to four hundred two thousand dollars and two hundred it pay for us if in the end the answer will be that they will if our they'll point to our old policy and say you don't call for five dollars studies it's left to basically the old foreman's discretion when you're upgrading your ch a clean shave two hundred more feet a ditch that comes off the end of that color it's like a day in a job so it's mainly the the base to do there i think we there all all will probably take it at least two weeks ok so million dollar question your neat six weeks on this for you guys seems like too much with everything else we've got going on so what do you think is the not all of the material yesterday some total remaining of work to do that we just went over and review the need about sixty two thousand dollars total estimated cost about three hundred thirty four thousand dollars with a net loss to our town about one hundred thirty two thousand so an estimated overrun from the projected number was eighty seven thousand dollars per proximately excuse me for rounding is that true that's true or so basically those two storms cost our town one hundred thirty two thousand dollars three hundred four and seventy six cents  does not much else to say about that there's i think i think you can continue to do everything that's there except for either i think the gravel roads is probably way it's going to fall off when we get to the total expenses in much of europe down that's how that stands  two thousand and twelve but we didn't do that at the end of two thousand and thirteen primarily because it took so long with the new auditors and with me out for the first newly released that it just never got done so what what do you want to put that forty three thousand dollars into a reserve contingency reserve for this year we had three hundred eighty seven in general so we could put the twenty one  had twenty eight thousand and highways so we could get that twenty three and he would bring us down and assign to just you know about fourteen thirteen to fourteen percent end up with you know they're all surplus zero deficits because everything we take in is going to stand in the end for the forecast i'm saying that we'll have a surprised of about fifty two thousand in the general and deficit of one hundred thirty nine thousand in the highway which is the g so what you're showing here is a p from twenty ten to twenty four team was around a million rocks and then and then you see a good twenty thirteen twenty eighteen about two million bucks and then twenty fourteen thousand anything about almost four million so it's just you're saying and it keeps increasing over periods of time with that what we have in place for our if we call it a wish list or whatever of a truck in this and that and fixing this and doing that and doing the road so and   but i have to assume that this is what you need and so that's an average annual increase you came up with three hundred eighty four thousand dollars a year and as you're going to talk about here there's not very many places where that money would come from other than the taxpayers and i just want to mention along with that they over the past ten years we average hundred fifty four thousand a year on infrastructure and we're forecasting in the next six years two hundred  transparent you know it was like a state or so in two thousand and twelve with the first year that the planning commission got involved and by statute they're supposed to be doing some work so that was a good thing and hopefully they can get more active in it a two thousand and thirteen was the first year of gas to be there before which was you know i had to go back and do it him enjoy everything back to two thousand and three and get it all on so you're in now where you can really see some history also and so now it's it just it just moved to another line sale so i have used this this number of vehicles although it seems extremely high to come up with and what we've always done is we have financed the vehicle so i'm end of this the i p t we're spending three hundred seven thousand dollars a year just on debt payments to to pay for all these vehicles you know so that's taxes you know that's just that that little lying to the taxpayer twenty five a year and what that ends up being the needed taxes and they might put in the c i p five six ounce on the tax rate is six cents of the tax rate so part of that would be coming out of the budget already considered that that money  right now and what to sixty to five at the beginning of this year and then here's what's going to happen in two thousand and fourteen that without money without the structured grant we sat in our capital  continue to get just for that amount of time maybe we can cut that back that you know we forecasted using get for the vehicle so you're going to get tons of two million three from debt you're going to get funds from taxes to support the c h p of two million you're going to the old up a million dollars in taxes and we're going to get one hundred twenty thousand in grants you're going to buy four million seven during that time and so you should end at the end of two thousand and twenty long range in every home with a million five along next thing can you deviate from the cia ph britishness fund for the current period for the current period you've said this is our cia this is i mean this is what we're buying this budget period and so you should only buy it is it  restrictions and stuff to make sure that i you know up to date and cried on all that and it's clear you're in so i put in my little recommendation pages that you create the capital improvement fund and transfer you know one person might get with ryback in two thousand and twelve whatever we used ours to do so it's like still if so maybe this is just better budgeting i don't know but i just think we should look at that because it's an awful lot of money f burden of this falls on taxes taxes and yeah and if you can manage to to build up some kind of funding so that you do have to have higher expenses do you have a garage roof or something so your you don't roads and say we're doing this section this year in this section this year i'm going to have a seven year cycle for pavement in january cycle for gravel or whatever i think you really got to get more detail and then you think on the equipment you really have to give more detail then and look at not just this as an too but but i don't think we should leave the planning commission out of the low i mean this is something i mean if they want to if they want to look at it and say they don't want to get that involved in detail and they want staff percent right there so that's the existing road that's like that's it's that little slice and basically it's relatively fixed everything above that is fine it's twelve percent below that as far as working with the contours of the land and all the different options the only real options to work so our biggest thing was it's really just this little piece of fifty percent of the need to work around everything else one hundred percent on working with the contours of the land you know we're not bringing phil and i kind of drew this line right here that shows up fifty percent right there that  second leg and again that's just totally straight uphill that fifteen percent tend to get i just drew this morning here to see kind of visualize if we could bring in the fill in the check that's kind of the other option to get twelve and that would be up to nine feet a fill in size so what we have basically minimizes bring in that film keep the sidewalk about foot versus we get the twelve percent but it would just be possibly about nine feet there or maybe something similar  it would be kind of dangerous to be a structural issue you know we wouldn't want anyone on the road to decide wallace you know more than a couple of feet so there's that issue and then this far is i guess kind of support for it basically doesn't meet the town policy  without exception as far as support for it if you prove the fifty the fifteen percent basically you siding with you know all the other actors like the vermont that you know the state of vermont jericho is fifteen percent so it's you know something out of the usual we and logging and they really made the right roads you know with the land in it were the easiest for trucks to get on and all that stuff so it's there you can see in walking around it but the fifty percent just that first are you know kind of comes in a really it we need to i want to record right now and i know you feel the same way and it is a very difficult thing you know this is how the system set up i understand that i understand it shouldn't go to  and i understand it's in our purview too to approve driveways but technically i have been in construction a long time but technically it moves away from me quite quickly  taxpayers but we need to do the right thing here where you can make sure the drain drainage is correct we need to make sure the pitch is correct if i don't want to see well i understand the picture i know the land i something right and i'm also very concerned about it not being any water runoff issues for the neighbors i mean that's the other big concern here is we have two major concerns one is the water onto the neighbors which is been discussed which i could someone understand by the corporates put in here but it's not an engineer  you know i mean is so are paid to produce we'll put it like you'll be able to look at this for a couple hours and give us a summary he's he valued by and so they do a study based on all different criteria average tests car speed was thirty five c speed and curves of twenty five know typically when i'm pulling out of my driveway going down or west people are on up my side of the road you know so it's very unsafe so it is picked up on here that there should be some illustration appendix a and four installed direct direct directional warning chevron signs along her horizontal curve within the study area for motor safety c appendix a so that's that one of those part of his in the rigs when they did the road it kind of got written into the whole project somehow and since it's of federal highway part of the funding and something made that mandatory those are right next to each other yeah it's a beautiful land up there all right so state of vermont vermont superior court on march thirty first twenty four team found in the favor of the town of underhill regarding town highway number twenty six and it is a relatively long memorandum will be as is public and it is for review but it really lets us move forward figuring out how we're going to treat new highway twenty six from approximately the town garage  to the bump before mr demarest land mr demarest will still be able to of course access his driveway and any of his land without an issue but we will be treating the highway twenty six that section as a trail and access their land when they need to for wood or something like that so that that is that decision and that's a good decision for the legal fund of underhill all right  second any discussion just to be clear this is for the sidewalk project in this will be mostly coming from the ram i never receiving cor stretches out this long known fact if i i'm going to regret not asking her but if i understood moral right that was almost a good thing that splits up some of our getting so much federal money from fever if that starts overlapped with a used to be clear if anybody been reading the minutes there is a change in your in your in your manner of writing them that was due to cliff suggestion from a legal point of view that this is not number according and that's what videos for that's our director according and this is literally just a summary summary of fact who said she said so how's that workin for ya working