vehicles coming up ok folks at seven o'clock we're going to like go and get started rolling they're lovely so as always i want to open by reading the warning of the meeting and why we're here applications for construction of an approximately twenty four hundred square foot residential and commercial building which will be used to operate an auto detailing business parcel is at one twenty seven vermont with fifteen in the village center district  let's see i think we had so and so the agenda for the seating let me just go over that first there there's this one hearing that's warned and then we have the usual or the we'll just want to remind everyone that these proceedings it will be conducted in a manner consistent with the dear p's rules of procedure i'll walk you through the whole process this evening so you don't need them but if you want to cut i've written copies of the rules you can get them from bound by the officer derby's decision or act only those interested persons who participate in a therapy proceeding may appeal a decision re entered in that proceeding in environmental court pursuant to state statute pursuant to statute participation consists of offering or written testimony evidence or a statement of concern related to the subject of the proceeding so interested persons the applicant or of the applicant does not only subject property the person owning title to the property i mean it's a policy that has a i just want to remind everyone in the event of an appeal of a decision we don't decide who is or who is an interested party that and if that person that would be departed to determine as part of the appeal process but we want everyone to know that the rules are and we're sending a sign up sheet around so we know if you are here tonight that just helps with that whole process and get the event we need to know it ok this is a cause a judicial hearing which means that any testimony you give tonight is sworn testimony so i need to swear everyone in so what i'll do is i'll read the oath and you can just say i do if you intend to speak with me i hereby swear that the evidence i give in the cause under consideration shall be the whole truth and nothing but the truth under the pains and penalties of perjury thank you ok let's get started now you want to come up and shows your drawings ok fine but we have a set of drawings here for the first turn to this direction for the benefit of the board so if you can turn that into the public and see if that works well for us leaving sorry is the wooded area at the back of the parcel what's in tan is the proposed structure it's a twenty four hundred square foot forty foot deep by sixty foot wide two story structure would be similar in size to homes in the area similar in size to what was previously approved was a single family lock back in two thousand  so well that start make sure everybody knows where we are heading out from here george underhill silly little road the horse farm the bed and breakfast is the next lot so this lot was split off of the bed and breakfast back in two thousand and six currently a vacant lot and then you've got a single family home the next home is mass father's and that's where his current home occupation is for mass washing wax the washing operation i was just you know so is a forty by sixty building on storm water control on site septic municipal water connection to the front single driveway access the driveway asses slightly change from the previous letter of intent what i was going to do and you can stop me any time you'd like just kind of go down through the staff notes sort of so the parcel is approximately one acre in si meet the actual addresses one twenty seven or mach group fifteen and were in the village center district as i said the forty by sixty two story building is similar to what you would expect of the previously approved single family home the the project means i'm on page two of the staff notes on the project overview and it talks about set and lot coverages and such we shelled out of the title block we've got the breakdown were well below the law coverage we need all the setbacks we're not asking for any waivers or variances to any of your standards related to that and the last sentence of project or view reaffirms that the proposed project meets these parameters moving down to  the next sentence it comes up later in the staff notes too but it talks about the northeastern corner of the province property extends into a wetlands area the hundred year flood plan exists four hundred feet plus northwest of the subject parcel so what that is is that's looking at this view which is just that it's an overview it's very approximate and based on actual site information there are no wetlands nor floodplain even close to the parcel if you look at the back of the parcel of what would be the northeast corner or the lowest corner so you go back to about where the woods are preserved where you see the green there's a little bit of a flat area going into the woods and then it drops down pretty hard drops down from elevation six fifty five to about six forty up the property line so it's and it continues to drop beyond the property line the northeast corner of the parcel is at about elevation six thirty nine the floodplain one hundred year flood plane opposite of us on brown's rivers six twenty six so we're thirteen feet above the flood plain at the north east corner of the project if you look up where we're proposing anything we're up at elevation six fifty seven so there were thirty you know we're thirty plus feet above the flood plain  and also the wetland is well beyond the property continues down the actual elevation of browns river adjacent to the property is about six twenty one so there's about a five foot floodplain difference in this vicinity but  neither of them based on surveyed information affect the property down on departmental review and comments and there was a revision late today to this we had submitted as site planning conditional use there was a short time period there where it was questionable whether it was a conditional use because it could fall under personal professional services but late this afternoon we got an update to that sheet under your auto repair within the context of that definition is auto detailing so while this is just auto detailing it's not auto repair it does show up through the staff nodes and then all at the end of kind of hit on the conditional use criterion we do have information to provide you one trip benzenes and such like that very quickly as i said two doors down from this is where matthew operates his business now the this new facility is going to be the auto detailing on the ground floor and there's two to better my apartments on the offer for two employees is all that are here for this business so it's a it could be it'll continue to the you know low low use low traffic generator and all provide you with that information  among the three now and i can just go right to the bottom to the warm water storm water trigger for developments is one acre we are after quarter acre just slightly last point to pork so there is no there is no will trigger for storm water on this parcel however we have accommodated to make sure that our runoff doesn't go to neighboring properties if you look at the parcel on full size with the finish very contours there's a basically a swale that starts near the front of the building on both sides of the property leads towards the back towards the green the bank again at the green edge of woods and it just kind of a close wail so the get treatment by this whale it's great soils you get infiltration if there was ever frozen ground conditions you get a little bit of storage if there was frozen ground conditions in the storage wasn't enough it's going to spill over and go over the bank like it does today without without anything so even though storm water treatment and control is not required per town or state regulations we did accommodate for it to address basically to address that we're not taking storm water onto either neighbor the comment on the edge of pavement that was a mistake on our part in the title block previously had the line for edge of pavement and then down below had the tree line symbol and it says if you pavement what i what i gave you tonight that's been corrected it says plus the structure total impervious area of the sidewalk that's proposed in front of equals zero point two four just over ten thousand square feet on page four of the applications some of those i might of address but on the top talks about the wetlands again and making sure that we're more than fifty feet away we're probably likely closer to two hundred feet away it's it's far enough away where it's or the flood plain traffic access as they stated in the overview this this was in two thousand and six approved as a single family law as part of the two l subdivisions at that time a letter of intent was obtained from the trans because this is on route fifteen and the access on through fifteen any change on through fifteen because it's a state road requires state  the access we will need to amend the existing letter of intent and still need to do that what i would what is normal what i would like to have happen there is  you would just condition your approval you know prior to issuance of zoning permit that we provide the the letter of intent it's it's a law it's a funny thing you get the letter of intent from v trans and after you get your written approval we get their written approval so they give us a letter of intent but they don't give us their permit until we have your your permit so the timing kind of works out where it zoning permit and we know that if not that we expect any change there there's a good safe distance but if by off chance the trans made us change something we run the risk that we'd have to come back to you for a cite plant them down on parking the staff's review of parking talked about three point six spaces perth thousand plus one space for the two  two apartments one space each and that comes up to eleven just over ten we're showing nine designated spaces you look in the back kind of saturn we've left that open for circulation that could be three spaces we weren't intending and would like not to strike them but there is the space there that is three additional spaces the reality is that is matt and one other and a couple cars a day is is the hopes and the nine spaces is too many but to try to address your standards we show the nine's faces the other thing to consider on that is you have i think there's a more appropriate section of your regs that you can look at their can find on parking for so that the three point six per thousand falls under personal professional services but right kids too for the motor vehicle so it would be two times the twenty four hundred or the two point four it be five spaces and then were calm what we did and it shows are a great down here that's what we kind did we did the two spaces per thousand and then we did two spaces for each apartment for a total of nine so so i believe we do meet your regulations on that well i'm sorry eleven point two is parking loading circulation and then within eleven point two section two point one so single family duplex we use the duplex for the  two spaces per unit of the other section that may be of clickable is two point five which says excess three apartment guest house which is one per unit but it we don't really need to go there because we've got nine spaces yet i don't and very tempted did we did we establish whether this meets the criterion for excess or apartments as opposed to nice yet i don't believe it does because an accessory apartment is usually an accessory the primary use family right and so that and so you're not saying you're not you're not trying to define this as a one dollar you don't have accessory partner you're saying is to lawyer yes ok thank you to it's two apartments but it can't really fall under accessory because there's no primary right  and there's other definitional definition things as well and then on section again we're still in that eleven point two but on three point five point six is more vehicle repair that's the closest there is and it's w that thousand square feet shows up so you're under you're under your eleven point two parking loading circulation and then when you go down to three point five point six that is where we picked up the two per thousand so would be two times two point four which is four twenty eight around it up to five spaces so if so i think the nine of the nine meets the regulations the next section was lighting and on page two we included lighting they were limited playing here this is you know the many only after completely down shielded which was one of the questions here for the fixtures are right here where it's socially going to get to the property that you're not trying to like the stuff we're just trying to provide minimal amount of lighting to be able to operate but the the fixtures are completely down shielded on the parking we are already went over that lighting water wastewater the state permit on that is pending before the open water service so there's a water service off the front of the building and then there's a proposed in ground system we've got great soils out here and that's that's that requires a state permit i would if you want anything there my request would be that you do you handle it the same as to be trained so that it would be a condition of prior to zoning permit on page five the written approval from the water district we've talked with the water district but we do not have the letter in hand yet that letter is it is necessary for us to obtain the wastewater permit the state of vermont in two thousand july of two thousand and seven the state took away all jurisdiction on water and sewer from this pallets so that the waste water permit is really what handles the case because it's just a water service if you have state waste water permits there called water supply wastewater supposal permits that people refer to as w w permits that's when you have a water system that doesn't require a separate water supply permit which is a whole different vision of the state if you have a hydrant or if you have more than five hundred feet a line requires a separate water supply firm and if it's something like this it's just a service the waste water permit covers those the water service and the sewer and in order to obtain that we need to include the letter from various so i just warning with this this business intuitively seems like when they would use a lot of water maybe i'm wrong about that but  however that is that would be the up to the village to decide if they could supply it and either give you a permit or not yeah and surprisingly it doesn't use a ton of water it's mostly the detailing and the lax thing you know the washing is done very efficiently and it doesn't use a ton of water and the two uses are just two better uses so that there are only five hundred sixty gallons for that but we do need to obtain  that letter and we haven't been told if there's any issues with chain letter i think one of the main topics from my review of the staff notes while there was a couple there was the parking which i think we've addressed  i still need to address the traffic and the one that might be you know the biggest topic of conversation is the landscaping in the village district so i'm landscaping  rest of that section which talks about how which talks credit may be granted for existing tree cover or for site other than plannings as long as the objective of this section are not reduced  what we have is we have preservation of the site landscaping out here you know the dream feature being the fact which we're not trying to take that first twenty feet a flat area and say let's take that tree line right back to there we're working within the confines of what's open now on the plan that you have we're proposing thirty one forty five foot high cedars those are on either side of the line it actually looks like the apple tree is on the other on the other parcel as far as the trunk of that so there's a there is a fair amount of existing landscaping that is being preserved and we'd like your consideration for that  the three percent roughly comes out to about six thousand dollars and the proposed planning that's on the plan is slightly less than three thousand so that only gets us to about half of kind of jump ahead here only part of that math he did this today because of the staff notes but i looked quickly and on there there's another six hard woods and about twenty shrubs that's roughly about three thousand dollars of cost so i'm not sure that we really need any waiver but certainly with the landscaping that we've shown that landscaping was done to try to address the comments in here about breaking up the building and providing some landscaping in the front of the building so that's that's what that purpose was but what kind of happens because of that landscaping to building design and the afghan did provide elevations that we submitted on the building design and because we're in the villages center district that in the village center district it building you know with that in addition to the landscaping that it does meet the you know meet the test of of the village center district i think some of this will get into a little bit more on the conditional the conditional use part of this so on the village center district i'm on the top of page six now it talks about life layout and design shell reinforce a sidewalk in the front of the building to give the best reappearance and and the building itself is back closer to thirty five feet or even a little bit more but the bigger thing is that you know as i stated in restated the structure is no larger than you would expect for a single family home that was already a forty by sixty is very standard for all the breakfasts are equal in size fits quite well and it fits quite well without the landscaping once you add the landscaping to it you know it addresses some of the other items in the village center district on the on the screening the parking is on the side and to the rear mostly to the rear so you've got to the there is no parking in the front and again you've got the sidewalk in the front so i think that does encourage  you know keeps in keeping with that well the pine street skate down on section three point two purpose and some of this i'm definitely repeating but it's just where i've marked up the staff knows and it talks about one of the things that they grabbed my attention was the ball and again it's not a lot of bulk here were were well within the setbacks for this lot were well below the lot coverage for the locks were not remotely close to coming up to any trigger of what could be done on this parcel should basically be beefed up that we should break it up we should propose more landscaping enhancements and that's exactly what we're trying to do with the additional submittals if you have some of the stuff that already went over but just so that you have it for your file this is three copies of the female mapping silly hill road it's right there shows  before i don't know i've got three copies of this and i already kind of addressed it but so well no i maybe i didn't address this yet so so this  we received the stuff notes i think yesterday and after going through and i thought that i certainly needed to provide you background information on the traffic generation so the standard for traffic generation is institute a traffic engineers i t and they publish numbers not for every use and for the tailings there is no auto detailing there is no use in i t v you kind of have to go to auto care which is a higher use foot it's the closest thing they have unfortunately an awful care they do not have daily data they do have an peak hour and p m peak hour and based on those numbers it would be seven trips in the five and into out and eight in the p m with four in and four out what i did because of the nature of the business doesn't that make you end up with e i don't know if that would get into that you're coming in with your wife dropping off her car and then yeah ok route understood but this is trips as opposed yes trips ok yeah i got it what i did because there was no data i said well you know with this type of business it kind it is morning and afternoon it's somebody you know before work and somebody after work perhaps somebody at night dropping off their keys for the next for the next morning because  no data i took that and p n p can said well let's let's apply that fifteen anyway because i know these numbers are conservative for what matz are you doing two doors down the apartment use for two apartments the  when he's when he's there pm peak hour two trips with one in one hour so i show you the total there the end result is this is very low traffic it does not have will not have any impact on route fifteen this is part of this information will be submitted as part of our highway access amendment and they're the ones that really have the jurisdiction over it anyway but i thought it was appropriate to provide the numbers so i kind of go over that at the end i already talked about the wetland floodplain so what you've got behind that memo is you've got the  background information and then i just put in writing the different elevations of where the wetland are i think the only other thing that i have that i didn't think i had at three o'clock found out i did at three thirty is that we when we applied we felt that it that it did trigger a conditional use and then there was the question of whether fell under personal services which technically i think it does because of detailing shows up in the definition  care it probably is appropriate it was worn for conditional use so while it's not in the staff notes i used to be a chair of the zoning board so i know these pretty pretty good  purpose of the zoning district in which the use is located is is what a conditional uses the specific criterion are a that nuisance or hazard will not be created to the detriment of the sift safety and welfare of the occupants of the proposed use or citizens of jericho we're going to have a wastewater permit that handles the water and sewer part of that that's part of health and safety we're going to have a letter of intent from highway access for the traffic safety and we don't see how this use has any adverse effect on the health safety welfare of the occupants or the  residents citizens of jericho i don't be that the proposed use including any building associated with the use will be in general harmony with the character of the surrounding neighborhood it will not adversely impact a budding residences or other property we feel that we are in character this is a use that is a listed by us not a permitted use it is a listed conditional use for this district it is of a mixed use district  we're even a mixed use building so the we're in this transitional zone the size of the bowl the landscaping the setbacks the coverage i think it's all in keeping with not not if you did direct comparison to any individual lot but if you look at this whole strip as a whole you've got a mixture of uses both single family homes and strictly commercial buildings and this one would be a little bit of both i think with the certainly with the improvements from the roadside it would appear to be more of a home than a commercial use from the backside it's going to appear to be more of a commercial use that is all because of a divorce on item see that the proposed use including any building associated with the use will be compatible with the stated purpose of the zoning district in which the use will be located you know all these are subjective but there are already kind of covered by the site plan criterion that we've gone over so that that one is almost the same as the we are a listed condition conditional use and we do feel that we are compatible with the zoning district ten point nine point three point three is the traffic we've kind of gone over that this this is a low traffic use it's a low traffic use in comparison to other things that are permitted uses for this district so there could be higher permitted uses on parcel than what's being proposed ten point nine twenty three point four is the bylaws ordinances then in effect with your approval were in accordance with the in effect but again we're not requesting any any variances to block coverage setbacks building type anything like that and then the great line is utilized utilization of renewable energy resources we don't know of any renewable energy sources that were adversely affecting on this just parcel below that is the site planted standards that have already been covered in your staff no that we have to one of the spaces that we have in we have adequate space for you to probably be well it will actually probably be probably more appropriate to have one of these designated as handicapped so i apologize advice skip over something in the staff notes that's asking for a change like designate one of these is handicapped that means i'm making that change but we have no problem designating one of those spaces and cap space so i have a question about the disposal system i noted of the war with the us septic system i noticed that your separately treating us as a floor drain versus the road the rest of the service or what sort of makes sense again crashing cars inside yeah and i notice that there's a recall there is a boil separator as part of that system which again makes sense with a ford with washington so what does that mean for where does that state environmental protection rules require that when you have a floor drain and there are permanent will there permit will be based on this plan but it'll conditions the standard  of disposal of that you know on a periodic basis so it has to be monitored all it basically does grip kind of like a septic tank falls to the bottom of the oil floats on the top and you're able to to take both out so it's same premises as a septic system if you did not take care of it eventually your grid is building up from the bottom of your oil building down from the top and your clean water that is so can you can you explain a little bit about the stormwater impact of this impermeable surface and how it's intended to work and how that fits in with big as far as the size of  that well there are no there are no again no triggers in the town regulations or the state regulations to even in my opinion there's no triggers in the state regulations in my opinion from review of the town regulations there's no trigger for stormwater because we're at ten thousand square feet or point two four acres one acres trigger but as i said the proper thing to do it's not so much to worry about treatment as it is to make sure that any of our in fergus area doesn't flow to the east or to the west on to the neighboring properties so there is no calculations what we've that is probably overkill but we've just shown the grass well down each side of the property running south to north and then a small containment area at the north side of both of those whales again the soils are very good here i can assure you that ninety nine point nine percent of the time it's just infiltrating back into the ground if you had frozen conditions  were time you know fox would still frozen ground there is some storage capacity on both sides if that storage capacity was was ever achieved  or not come up with the right word for it but exceeded there you go if it was never exceeded it's just going to then go out the end of each of those and where it does now over the bank so there are have water going to the east or to the west to us and one other criterion that we're that we're to review is a nuisance question and the only other one that we haven't already addressed is noise and i wonder if you can if you're aware of what the performance standard is if you could comment on whether there's any issue there i'm not aware of the exact performance standards in jericho if it's similar to other towns i'm actually gonna put that on the spot here as far as you know i think the main question matt is how much is done said as far as you know that the operation basically is an indoor operations that we're talking about the same noise levels as you would have you had less noise levels in my house  that you've you've made a point of this actually having hedges on as as visual screen to the adjacent uses the species that's chosen as a visual screen is important we've learned because self prune and over time they end up as high visual great barrier and nothing below and i just wonder if you could comment on what this species is and whether they still print or not well it's another of what is the northern white cedar and i knew i brought bottom branches as they mature you know i know that the cedar is you know it's the formalized kind of headroom where it doesn't take up a lot of space that people want the intent there was to to to try to screen the back parking area kind of know the question from for this point ok so at this point i'm going to go to public comment you can let me explain how we do this people who have comments can make a comment or ask a question of the board will compile the questions and comments will use the comments or part of our part of the testimony that we use energy liberation and if there's any questions from the public ask them of us and will compile them and get them answered as well as we can from the applicant so  max is really probably going to be close to to date it's overnight it's going to you know it's going to be relatively low you're restricted by the parking i guess but there's two people there so the final leave my car i want to be worked on starting in the morning if not i'm going to take you there the next day so just just you know the way that type of business would work you're generally not going to leave your car there if it's not going to be worked on the next day similar to this and the view i mapping is only as accurate as there can be things that are one hundred feet off of it and what it does is it gives a red flag that there is a wet land in the general vicinity and then you go out and you do your and then as far as civil engineering consultants we use our expertise to determine do we need to get a wetland consultant here here you don't because again the northeast corner of the parcels at six thirty nine it's still dropping down to about six thirty before you get to that lower area the hundred year flood plain is six twenty six your wetland is six twenty six or below so there is no and then the closest disturbance that we have is the sewage area the sewage area is about one hundred feet from the back line of parcels so there's there's no there's no way that there could be any impact t wetlands even if the wetland were on this steep slope but wetlands unless there's a figure that comes up a steep slope and there's a narrow channel with that finger wetlands just just don't occur on steep slopes think the important part is that it says elevation six twenty six and our northeast quarters at six thirty nine to thirteen feet above but if you if you look at this a little bit more beyond the contours that you know and these  the field surveyed this the reason that you can tell that this is wrong is if you go to the chamberlains lot it shows it going up almost to the back of the house or the mass parents live up to the back of the house which is up at elevation six fifty eight and it's as high and dry as anything in jericho so these are proximate they they raise the flag that ok you need to look at the area but that has been  building itself probably he made mention of what if he i just get i was looking for clarification on where that measurement was from and to so you know there are as you go down yes it is very dry the top of the help at my house but if you go down the back it does get rather wet and that does change throughout the years when i first moved in there was about twenty feet below where it was it is and it has moved to come up and it's it's starting to forsee back from where the new location be and i also have to clarify it looks to me based on the drawings that i've seen we've talked about twenty four hundred square feet that's twenty four hundred square feet a shock and twenty four hundred square feet of living house that was being built to be a forty eight hundred square foot house so as we talk about other houses in the area it fitting and i mean that's that dwarfs my house it probably is similar to a rock chances house as he has one of the larger houses in the area but that's one of the things i mentioned on him as we look about i think about how big that is and how much of that with it's going to take up and how it's going to work here and other things of that area so there's three days on the back of the carotid trace of the drawing that i saw earlier today if that's not true it's a moot point by this is there any expectation  some point you have really found employees working on three vehicles at any one time so i think that's a consideration as far as you know what the growth potential for growth might be down the road a consideration years possibly i have you know if i have concerns about what for but it's going to happen at that location if that were to leave you i don't think his intentions are you know do anything that he isn't saying that he's going to do right now but things privacy i do have concerns that the backyard of my house is exposed to the parking lot for a good number of feet and i have serious concerns about my children and their friends playing in the backyard with our parking  area you know exposed to a business where you know to be honest if it was a house or residence even if it was a duplex you know you're going to know the people generally that are that are there and i do have concerns about people coming over on my property  put significant investment into it and we just feel that this would be detrimental to our use of the property both to ourselves and to g the parking lot is actually i think slightly larger than the house pretty close to it and it goes beyond actually the end of our  i think there might be some other possibilities for as the landscaping for the main detriment i believe is the fact it's a duplex and a business from when we bought the property where we were given apple approval this and the can this conditional use and a future use i don't answer that from a procedural standpoint presently the law is permitted to build a single family home with a particular layout reforge who gave i guess robert gave me this drawing this is the what's presently permitted this hearing tonight is a hearing to change what's permitted on this lot from what was previously permitted to what's being proposed tonight that's why we're here and a few and some was asking about whether that be if if we approve this use under the rules which apply for auto service does that mean that anything that fits under the definition of auto service is automatically approved for the future in the simple answer is no change of use is a change of use it might still be a different use in the side of the same definitions but it would be a different year so for yes it is not possible it is a possibility it is a conditional use but it would if they'd have to go through the same same sort of review that we do so it wouldn't just magically happen they would be another conditional use approval process just like this one that's the that's the way that works the from the to me anyway on the kind of proposal and the the statutory definition for a class to wetland which it likely is fifty so it may be fifty or a little bit more from the property line a but it so that gets you to the property line but the closest disturbance from the property lines another eighty feet away or so right ok thank you that's right but based on the contours and even coverage here and he could be proposing sixty percent live coverage so there could be twice the use on here so i don't buy the argument that this isn't keeping him in character with the size because even the single family home that's approved what actually gets built comes in for a zoning permit they could come in for a building exercise or take because they would meet the requirements as a single family home so i think that's done a good job of keeping in mind what was right on the plans before and i think just to be responsive to the question i happen to know that antifreeze is poisonous but it's biodegradable so it's held in the septic system is actually fairly safe for incidental amounts to end up in there although that's not as you said that that fact would be taken into consideration by the state and their property and their work on the permit and if it was not if there was some problem with you know particular materials that they were concerned about they would put that and i think the neighbors are it's very reasonable to to bring up their comments and safety and clientele and while i'm not can't control clientele i would be telling isn't cheap if you do it you do it i'm sure a matter of life can be done more often but i think you're doing it once or twice a year or you're going to once every three years before the sale of a car and then you wonder why you're selling it but  it is not but she it's not a cheap thing so i think that someone answers the question that you know that the clientele are spending a little bit of money weeds it reduces that chance of anything adverse the other thing to note here the village district allows a lot of uses permitted uses some of the permitted uses for instance the two units whether this was this exact building as a two unit building up stairs and down stairs permitted uses none of this part of the conversation would occur that in breakfast and in a day care so there's a lot of uses that are permitted cluing daycare i don't even get into half the questions that we've talked about and then when you get into the conditional uses for the village district such as auto repair that isn't restrictive dago detail you know then you're getting into some serious comments about  concerns about where the sits in relationship to the two neighbors but i think if it's appropriately restricted to what matz for proposing that it's a very reasonable for what's allowed in this district vote that can be done in the water so that pretty much address troops any concerns it would not the oil grid separator has access put it's not open access so it would not go into  that the way that it shone on here as far as contours you've got a six fifty eight contour at the back of the unit and you're half a foot lower at the back of the parking lot so and a run off other the only other thing and i think mr king addressed it if if the man decided in the future it was one of the questions to increase business is good an increase he'd have to come back before the board so it's not just the use he's proposing to employees if that were to increase the neighbors would have the opportunity to to comment again was anything else you had jen so i want other open issue which is i'm that was just saying that they've actually actually proposed to change this elevation as it's been as it's been given to us and we need to know we have to act on what we have and either approve it or not approve if i don't close it if we leave it but if we continue it until we have updated drawings we can do that but then we have to continue it to a date certain and reopen the hearing before we can go into before we can we don't have since we don't have everything here for for everyone to review then we have to continue what i would suggest you do have everything just based on this in the center line in the seven feet both it just doesn't work that way we if we close the hearing now what we have is all we have right now that we have to act on if we want to if we want to change what we're being asked to act on it has to be done in an open meeting so we would have to continue it even if it's only for thirty seconds to each from now to my question basically to each of you is do we have enough information do you feel we have enough information to act on this if we close the gehring or do we need to continue so that we can gather the rest of this testimony that big that they're making the hearing but if you want to go ahead and do that to get to make sure we have over some information we have the public media is going to continue because we have minutes and some other things to deal with so if you get us that stuff before we leave then we'll have it for  minutes from the deleting of ten may ok so those two changes are there others so we don't have we don't have one sheet here jen let me just go over here if it's who would be well actually there's more than one that's a seven the she now has a seven as both elevations actually so the drawing that you got that you were just showing me yes what's the title block there distinguishes it from this one responds to twenty two  there's so we're looking for a sheet eighty nine which is the about forty minutes but it is the first twenty billion give you the basis for the word and it's i'm finding it difficult to get to get the energy committee in jericho to actually sit dollars a month that's a that's a thousand square foot house with that's so that's a very small house it's a small house would actually be harder to hit with the past house standard but say you got a two thousand house is forty hours and forty dollars  there may very well be actually yes peter peter was saying that he was asking for that documentary but this is a system that was developed in germany in the one nine hundred ninety s and they've got thirty thousand of them there basically two here dryers and he's pumping all that air into the living room and he recovery ventilation circling that here at that air out because it's got this ninety two percent efficiency recovery it pumps that back into the other rooms as it's heating up the air that's coming in from outside so and he's got temperature minors in every room and there's a graph here you're hearing i have died i have that disaster right got to the exact right place here's a graphic and this graphic just this shows the outs outside air temperature for the entire month of december here's the actual energy that the heat pump is using to heat the house here the temperatures in the various rooms  orange dot there is the actual living room and and air is going into and that's an average of seventy five degrees and the coldest room in the whole house is this one here a city up stairs is sixty so without even having a