like a welcome everyone to tonight's like board meeting and just reminding everyone that you have a cell phone if you could please put this silent or turn off that would be greatly appreciated so it doesn't go up during the meeting ok next item is  agenda additions in changes in that tonight we don't have the town manager as we normally do he his wife had surgery today and he's attending to her as he should  here it looks like we have a time for the public or select board to speak to the select board on items that are not on the agenda for anyone here tonight wishing to speak during public to be h trustees since there are more applicants than there are openings our practice has been to ask the first person on the list this in this case we are is to stay and then when the time comes we'll have   our community that's really really appreciated so well we'd like to do is ask you to give us a little bit about your background what you'd like to share and then what is your interest on being on the economic development for me definitely i have i have plenty of time with my husband's travelling schedule really my listening factor was full disclosure day time meetings because of the availability of daycare and so i've been looking for a way to get involved basically since we moved in november ok next up in the interview this is jonathan ph kenworthy for the energy committee saw invite him up to this table as well and asked you to say i think if you could give us some background program specialist in the economic services division i started back in two thousand and twelve my expertise is an energy assistance program for low income customers that that you know saves them releases technology i like i like using technology to make things better make things more efficient about a decade ago everyone was trying to make things faster but these days it's all about efficiency i mean with the l e d lighting with i mean computers aren't you know you don't see a bigger hertz increases that he used to see now it's all about making chips that are better faster and and use a lot less lecture city so this is like my first  my first time volunteering for anything saw a little bit nervous so i do apologize on talk a little fast i usually also while i work in englewood foundries in a call center setting so i don't normally see as many people on a  i want to get involved and look at what has happened in the past now that this is it i'd like to be more active i'd like to i'm a really thrifty guy so i have my wife would be a little embarrassed but i am all about making things more efficient and i'd i'd like to see you know projects in the future that that ethics involved in to get people on board things are happening so quickly when i go to my friends houses when i go to my parents house i you know i say oh my goodness what are you doing with this with these of mine says things have changed so much things and so much cheaper so you know i want to get people i wan see change i want to let people know the programs that are out there are just going on like front front porch forms i see a lot of my questions about electric bills you know there's a lot of programs people just don't know about and i think i'd like to be a  force and making people aware of those programs and making them available to the public so i would pay maybe a slightly different picture and you know i think that there is a lot of th driveway off my neighbor right now i live on park street my neighbor is he goes oh my goodness i can't believe that you know now i have to go and no my a lot of retired you're out there so if done time for me  thing maybe off that maybe oh ok so the next interviews are four seats on the library board of trustees there are currently two openings and we are fortunate to have three wonderful help figure out some career options for them going forward but it's my own business plan a lot of flexibility for time i don't because of the difficulty of getting to meetings i live really close by which is nice for me occasionally event but i think you have some limitations around space to come but maybe another venue could hold a fundraiser that where the money would be for the library  come a library governance in vermont is this kind of unique in there's some independence from the town to the to the trustees have different powers than th other committee members might might have for a different company committee the one thing that we might have before us is discussion about consolidation and if you have any thoughts on on that or you this is i do i you know i thought about that because i know that's come up i would hope that there would be a way to at least keep both buildings functioning because you know  i think it's great to have a library pretty close by so if there were if just one state ok and that would be i think that would really unfortunate i just don't i don't know enough about what's involved and if necessary should and staff positions i mean i don't know maybe there are possibilities o consolidation around that maybe sharing sharing some resources that are not shared now you know i think i i feel that i had more of the new work out that it would be i be happy to help brainstorm and research or just you know put our heads together about something but so i think it's very possible that there can be some money that can be saved but i hope both both buildings are still going to stay open and would be available for the community my opinion thank bring florida hello welcome sorry keep you waiting in suspense i am telling so if you could give us a little bit about your background was probably the worst thing for some like me change anyway i became very active with the friends of the library and became on the committee that was involved with dealing with the bake so my interest in the libraries and i believe the library is a huge component of any community and i think this library has some great programs that it does within its limited funds and i'd like to see it sustain and are money and the internet money of what and the internet the internet is taking away books from us in our hands and along with it people don't see the need to  program through the state or you can take on my difficulty with that program is it that you have to wait sometimes to retrieve weeks and if you're anything like me when you've got the mood to read that book you want to be of that access to it tomorrow and not fails or getting smaller and smaller in terms of that community so i think that the challenge for marbury will be to find alternative ways of raising money out there be it no lottery sales or something  like to welcome you and we all thank you profusely for wanting to step forward to volunteer in our community so if you could give us a little background about yourself and what your interest is a being a becoming a trustee school at johnson's still right ahead so i have two degrees there but i'm not a late starter so now people who are sixty five i think in sixty two was and the chargers and it was just great i've always liked to libraries that i had made one of my passions is genealogy so i spend a lot of so all of it up to the board for questions for joe you may have questions i mean john what challenges do you see for us extreme library in the coming years you know it really kind of scares me you know a few years ago they were talking about the merge between the village and the town and why do we need to libraries that was really frightening i mean that think that the programs for the i have friends who bring their children to the program for the children i've been there it so the next interview is there's one opening and it's on the for the essex rescue community advisory board and it so happens that there are two selectman that are willing to put in time her nation the essex rescue itself as an organisation and is about to have a full time executive director has in september fifth so they're in a big transition though themselves i do not expect  community and miserly board to me meeting any time imminently so i think of this like part wanted to put this off for a few weeks or months we would miss the next quarterly meeting for not having  he's going to give us an update on the a lot of work that's been going on up for regional this show we have your report but i want to summarize it for the folks here sure i'm happy to do that  of this committee a lot of hours have gone into kind of churning how to how to make this work it's always challenging and we have six eight communities trying to figure out how to do something together i know you guys have a lot of experience in these kinds of conversations so i'm going to kind of use a power point to talk from and kind of review the topic of what's in front of you and hopefully that helps anyone else who's interested understand it so what we're talking about is a creating a chimney county regional dispatch union miss full district in this part point kind of give you kind of the introduction to what this is the first next slide kind of talks about why are we doing th for increased staffing efficiency on time for supervision quality assurance more training and career advancement also for dispatcher's the actual aid is a second issue right now there's kind of a manual  pressures have to see which provider is available we're looking at getting through consolidation having a collective view of her spending agencies available services really with computer aided  work on this has been going through our office and the legal services have been contracted with through our office of the joint survey committee the next slide kind of talks about it just gives you the statutory  and some consultation also with legislative counsel and the attorney general's office one of the formal steps in doing this is to have the attorney general review this and make sure it is complying with state law it's technically by statute as i understand it is just called an agreement but it's the same as their charter so we've been kind of using those terms interchangeably it is the governing document for the exits but there was a little different process being drafted right now with the idea that with select boards of work that this could be on the ballot for twenty eighteen town meeting day and the governance structure talking about having a board of directors i made up of the chief executive officer of each member municipality and then a the staff really led by a public safety communications director the report to that or the next slide gives you a little ops and then that one circle which is not really part of the organization but a little note on the right hand side that oh yes there are assessments of bills that hook to the five dave member join the regional just bash group so by the structure right now the police chief public safety chiefs who report to managers or mayors are responsible for good management of public safety dispassion the legislative bodies have the authority to control the budget obviously and right now we have separate operations and he has filed the the model we're talking about would be having the chiefs play an advisory role but again to the manager or mayor as a director to be responsible for good management of public safety dispatch operation and similarly the with the legislative bodies how many thirty to control the budget of the public safety operation but instead of multiple operations a single operating entity so trying to keep basically the basic structure pretty similar to how it works now just doing it together as opposed to simply the next page we got into more detail about budgeting you know what and this is to do this in a way that works for them is palin's means that this authority would have to budget earlier than towns do so that you can take a look at it consider it a year budgeting process so we're talking about a schedule where the public safety authority would drop the budget and get it to you by the first monday in november and  have an initial public hearing then try to then adopt a budget by the first one day this summer and then it gets brought back to you kind of get two shots out of it sometime in the slide but in the agreement you'll see there's an actual extra staff in here of having a public hearing  but the number look legislative bodies would have the opportunity to vote on the budget within thirty days and then of course and so this would kind of get it done for you in january before you model is that the first one to two years would really be based on what you spend now so managing that there's a lot of notion about trying to keep this pretty stable for municipalities so keep it to what you spend now  finalize this cautionary m o you and then ultimately base the service and the expense of town the base on your calls for service with a three year rolling average so that you know something big incident happens one year you don't get a huge up to the average nobody no towel be asked to do more than four point nine percent jump in any given year so again trying to keep things stable and smooth on the cost side and then if  there's kind of a second step to joining so if your residents say comes up join there is a second step where the legislative body needs to approve the m o you so i think this is a little bit of a safety  in one of the reasons for one of the municipalities a financial just don't make sense this is kind of you don't have to join until you approve the cautionary agreement and say ok now we're worried we're going to we're going to pay our share into it  and so and on the flip side if you don't approve that within two years then you're basically out of the union and so and you do not incur cost or receive services until you approve the m o b o so they are trying to stay just through so that there's and i think this is a large response to comments were made of this day and all over the last number of months to make sure you have some you the basics on that but it's really hard to get that initial funding and also talk about long term funding also a provision about how to award additional members it also talks a little bit about  towns and public safety services that would contract with the entity so we will there are a lot of towns in jenin county that will last for contracts is so if you've got that and i think we all owe some debt to the town of cult just over the amount of time that they've invested in working on this he spent a lot of time working with every town and your staff kind of getting the details of thousand calls contract calls or eleven thousand share calls or thirty nine hundred so member towns have about one hundred forty three hundred thirty four thousand calls a year and you can see the breakdown based on calls so this would be in the longer we go to the calls for service model it would look something like this as to mating a total budget of three point one and you can see the breakdown early to die under sixty one thousand as if half of current existing costs so in the case of well the total of three point five we're looking at three point one for the budget so for most of the towns it goes down some that was up a little bit  showing two things one trying to keep some stability for town budgeting but also the belief that there is cost savings here in the long term you know maybe the over ten percent or so got maybe  kind of approves the agreement and then you're stuck with it so where we are right now in the schedule is is to actually we've inserted a step in the process to bring in the draft before the joint survey committee acts on it so this is the draft for slike for city council review over the next few weeks so we're hoping to get  probably i think we really want to have any feedback by ms of temper or the latest so that we also wanted to take it through attorney general review so any any questions or issues you see  i think that says what the quorum is but i guess there it appears a number of times when it says that a vote is being made by the board it says two thirds of the members of the directors present in no place in the document to say how many transit comes in here to review their budget with us and they tell us that it's already been approved by a majority of the other member communities and so we really don't have any input of all into the budget and given that it's another way to do that i know when you know the numbers are proportional that i don't know how they were how that would work i guess but you'd be interested to hear yes so i know we were looking at some of the models right now it's typically also more one towel one here and they said well we're only here as a courtesy to you because it's already been passed you have nothing and we have no say at all in the other much right if you were the first town they came to you get to be the one who sets takes the lead right i suppose but concern a little bit is trying to get a written statement over the objections of the conversation of the table has really gone what it's in everybody's interest for everybody to be happy so i think the other tally very interesting that one town did have a concern about the budget they wanted to make sure they heard it and understood what the issue was of that they could try to address it so out of the fully soldier issue but it was the the rest of the paragraph was an attempt to try to make sure they heard the concerns and had the opportunity to fix them rather than you just get stuck voting it so i think there were there was a real earnest effort to try to make sure they heard about issues of the budget ones which which leads to another point that is you've mentioned several other regional organizations that all have their budgets that they hand to us that we need that we need to either we can release we have  opportunity to do to vote on them or or perhaps there are other approved by others there are they're getting you know we're adding to the list of regional or being able to sort of watch how it forms and and and and be able to at least let you be in full swing for maybe a few years so that we could then but it's going to be the towns that want to do it yeah so i mean i think this agreement is set up and i'm certainly not encouraging you to wait but i think i think the agreement the way it's dropped in allows for town to say you know we're not ready to put it on town meeting day yet you know we'd rather wait a year or two to see how how the leading towns for bit and it works so i think i think there's room for that in here is really a choice you ought to make you know as a know i think really trying to get to a situation where the spell is a joy and feel good about the value proposition of the looking out and do it and i can't speak about it whether whether that might be true of you're certainly going to make a decision that i think i think the important message for radio for me is a the other towns definitely do not want you to feel like your fortune to acquire this is this is an opportunity to do something a little differently but you don't have to and word meaning and the only other person in the room interestingly who sided with me was another slight member and i think it is maybe it's the professionals in the room wanted to make sure their legislative bodies are ok i can see why they want to do it but is at this time i think the other thing is all transparency that has come up you see this some macs and paragraph two that the purpose is to provide public safety communications services you know period training and then it was the five dispatchers and one would be specializing in police and i'm just trying to understand what that means because i thought anybody who picked up a nine hundred call had to be certified to a certain level and they wouldn't just be like this please call but it's not a function that they're asking to do it right in terms of it's are going to work also they may have a trade but they may know so that would lead to my next question which would be are we giving ourselves enough time anybody who buys into this is there enough time to get those people up to speed to that training level it's not just putting them in a room and telling him they can have a different commute in different herbs and by the way you know to find a better because you have people who can answer it now you're no longer solo and dispatch you actually are going to improvement is that there's better systems in terms of computers here a dispatching system to really be able to tell that stuff but it's not the same as have personal knowledge i don't think so  they're going to be some trade off here that's one of the tradeoffs don't like to pretend it is you know and i think it's also you know that will believe all your people sort of learn more about but that says fifteen percent of our up to fifteen percent of our annual operating budget is there any possibility of putting in some sort of limit there so this is a recommendation for a day that's a recommendation that i would like to make yeah anything other than yes section twenty three this is twenty three a two talks about dissolution it says of the voters of the authority present and voting as such a special meeting of the authority vote to dissolve the authority so i'm just trying to get clarification on what that means does it say that the that this entity this form by this agreement will have its own special meeting will will hold any lection of the voters of the authority of a special media already but isn't it a thirty why vote has the majority of all votes or is it a again a community bank community of three of the eight municipalities vote to leave but they have the majority thirds of the board of directors present my question is does that mean that only the board of directors can amend this agreement so to some extent that's they are appointed by the legislative body because they hire that person but it is simply a part of their job description description at that point where they're in and  i struggle with the question of whether that person should be somebody appointed by the board and not specifically the c e o of the of the  i mean is it maybe and you seem sorry or me sometimes it's hard to get volunteers to do those kinds of things so maybe maybe i'm just raising a question that's foolish but i did have a question as to why it specifically is this the the other questions from the audience so charlie says if you want any additional concerns or questions we have to have them to you by september eleventh or you know com emergency medical service he says it's not a matter of fixing a bad system in most cases but to make good dispatch systems even better and that is the challenge so i guess my challenge to you tonight is how do we make our very good system a much better and  i hope it doesn't involve necessarily regionalizing dispatch although it may but if we don't for example decide to regionalize how do we bring our systems on our people up to a state of the art answering  dispatch services are being provided they do that such as walking through the steps of instruction someone how to perform c p r in order to do that we would have to in crease staff are looking to do this in house because once you go down the road of the liver in a script or instruction cannot alter can't back away from that you can't take away your car you can't take another i mean a fire chief in the study was done i believe the fall of last year over a few week period i remember right it was six weeks in the fall sixteen thousand call the white seventy seven seventy one second sewer public works and so in so essex rescue where ever they go to special do all their dispatching yes so so there are two municipalities that are on the when you say you say they know you mean right some you know and i guess it maybe is said discussion we need to have ourselves is do want to continue providing dispatch to essex as six rescue regardless of where they're going or do we need to start charging jericho for their work or i mean that's that's that's a different discussion i guess i just don't want people lose their ability to have dispatching done for them i think that's that's that's really what s they're there ask for a per capita is what they're there they're going for her per capita number so it's based on  they do in their normal budgeting approval process or they do that but yes you are right there are two different kinds of towns those that are paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for the house currently and would be members of those system and they will install the system and i think that they recommend the system as well as that's one of the better quality systems and what the package that he proposed to us would give us is a new set of hard drives and placement of some analog cameras digital one thing that we that we did do preparation for the future when the facility was constructed is to run digital line the and cells the new system are getting actually has removable drives it that we can move a drive out when it fails and put it in it's not proprietary so yes it does work just like a server and industry standard typically is your place in service three to five years before they start crashing i specifically asked that question to the manufacturer and they said three to five years and probably stretch it to seven years but within that period of time should be replacing hard drives so it is something that that like a server that we are going replacing you know currently have are five hundred shares with fixed drives in them this is one box where all the drives slide into the vantage of this system over the other system we're looking at is the storage space for this system is almost quadrupled and it allows us to use storage for other video besides just the building cameras so as we start to look at body cameras in current cameras and other video that we need to store that we're kind of running out of space for it this actually is going to be two purpose we actually can partition those drives and use him for other video i knew that she was going to be coming to us to talk more about it and oh if you take it from there yeah so why i just want to start i thank you for the opportunity to present this resolution doesn't count of ethics as a fair and impartial community and i wanted to point out that i'm speaking as an essex resident not in my role as a county employee someone to deal with that out there and i'm not exactly star in the steps i need to take with us  assuming it would be great for me to read and read the resolution that's there but before i did that or even considered that i just wanted to give some background information of how this came to be i think that's an important piece of it it didn't come out of anywhere that this resolution was drafted by a group of community members that organized within the past year in focusing on social justice issues and looking at ways to strengthen the community of ethics and number of those folks are here in the room this evening to support this and it was during one of those meetings earlier this year that we heard a presentation as part of that we heard that the essex police department has adopted a fair and impartial policing policy and we were really excited about it like that that's great that's wonderful it's strengthening the community and one of the pieces in it because if you go online you can see it's there for the purpose of that policy really aligns with where we were going says the purpose of this policy is to communicate the requirement that all members of the essex police department conduct policing in a fair and impartial manner to clarify the circumstances in which officers can consider personal characteristics making law enforcement decisions and to reinforce process ease and procedures that enable us to provide services and enforce laws and equitable and impartial way so we were like this is great this is good this is the direction we want to go where we're really taking into consideration everybody that resides in essex and our group of folks who are curious and thoughtful people just like you seem to be a select for members and came up with some questions of this is great that the police department has this policy what about the rest of the council offices are they also being offered in that same means and so we didn't jump to any conclusions or assumptions instead we've put a lot of time and energy into research and finding information out of what let's read through that policy that the police department has what is the background on that having conversations with community members what are other towns doing has the select fort r d looked at this and i saw that there was somebody that came in asked some information about this before and so we're really trying to be curious and make sure are these are all of our services available and what we found is that ethics hasn't yet expanded that fair and impartial policy that's in been in play for the police department to other services and so we really thought that by expanding the policies it would build on that successful implementation authority there in the police department aligns perfectly with a number of her goals listed in the town plan and i have that in the letter that i put out there that there's a number of on the lines with that resolution and it supports two core values that war outlined by the heart and soul initiative as corn well use of essex residents being a safety in community connection and it also is supported by the firm attorney general's guidance to vermont cities and towns as well so we're like ok this seems like this is something to put forth and with that we drafted the resolution and are bringing it to to you and to select for the so i don't now if so as the town of essex vermont is proud to be a community that values diversity and whereas nearly sixty million people worldwide are displaced by by lance political strife or natural disaster and forced to become far more refugees and where millions of additional people worldwide are driven to seek out immigration opportunities for better lives and opportunities for their well being and whereas immigration has been the cornerstone of our cattle region  in order to access municipal services unless immigration status information is necessary and the town of essex requires all municipal but departments and divisions to develop and or codify policies by june thirtieth twenty nineteen that reflects essex that us as a fair and impartial community and we will further resolve our status as a fair and impartial community of concord if a patient of these policies that i just want to put the recommendation i have thank you for this opportunity and our recommendation is that the select or make a motion to approve the resolution as read designating the town of ethics as a need to know what is the definition of the city i guess i would have to pull i did pull out my notes from the level before but it was very similar text so is there connection between your group of people and groups of people around eight or ten at that and it varies each meeting that we've shared this throughout and we have an e mail group as well so i would confidently say ten community eyes have twenty community eyes have looked at this  similar to it end they it's it's being received well they're one of the pieces that they did in up killer is they and they refer to there is as a  read in the final whereas i'm concerned about the way this is worded the town of essex is resolved the federal funding may not be withheld i didn't know that it was up to us to not have my name withheld the federal ministry should know we have no control over so maybe you can help this or provide them with so that is it is stating that through and this is also been through the support of the attorney general and through the guidance that  his office put out i'm saying that if if policies are worded in this fashion that they are meeting the criteria that is in place you can't be to have your funding called for being called you're not using the word sanctuary city you can't have your funding put because you meeting the criteria they happen place for it and he is also shared that he is willing  to you know hear any of these cases and support that so it might be that the wording could change with that but i think it's knowing that this resolution follows the guidance that came from the saying that if this language is used it's meeting the criteria that i'm place in the town right now with the town manager with different departments and kind of wanting to meet folks in the middle of it and not have it be and we want this to happen in a month from now realizing that folks need time for change for fracking their policy what if they just did their policies and they're going to have to renew it giving some leeway to each department to be able to do that so i'd be happy to have it be sooner but i also want to meet people up way  refuse the application of any requests from the state or federal agency i i don't believe we have that right and i also don't believe that our town attorney has reviewed this language either so i'm i'm i'm comfortable i'm comfortable doing something with this tonight i also don't think it needs to wait until june thirtieth of two thousand and eight i don't it's either it's either going to be approved by council on the word they will come back with some kind of language change or whatever the case may be but i don't think it needs to wait until june of two thousand and nineteen but i think i do have specific issues with those two parts of this and i think our intention is not to create anything that is against federal law state law whatever it is i was taking from the language that r d exists in it so if it doesn't match exactly the what's already in the police policy i think certainly be open to amending it to fit what already there and the police sue's comments we did have other people come in previously to talk about this like to make sure that if they have other ideas other components that you didn't include that we also consider those and then mine is the chief said that if  the police policy has changed i think we want to see that too for we go forward so i think there's there's a couple pieces i'm not against this at all i think there's a jury that you know thank you for bringing it forward and i think we can do a little more homework for y protection in public safety we we can assure you we can certainly promote it and say these things happen we can't we can't guarantee but we can say that that we have a foundation  i would agree with that i think we as part of our conversation is saying you want to codified and yes i think that's the pieces especially in these times of uncertainty of having it in writing i mean the a half things in writing it's not just that maybe staff could look do some more research into the fairing partial status what it would really mean to us and how it would affect i would has affected towns in positive ways and in the native way so that we could have the full three sixty  been having of this group is it's not just we need this action item it needs to happen it's more of having these conversations it's actually an arc needed ethics where it's growing it's one of the few communities that seen growth of having these conversations i think having a conversation with department heads with other that it's only going to make things better so that when the conversation got started seriously there was a reached out to somebody who spoke at the village with a different perspective and i'm not sure he has been able to follow a path to read was never responded to or if the person did not want to come back  it out some to allow it to happen as policy is needs to get updated perhaps because as we said the town is living up to this as it is it's just that your request is that like the police department they have the other departments codified so why not having it done by the nineteenth doesn't change how the town is behaving as far as you know the very partial people knowing that hey let's let's get it done before the leadership changes or staff changes so that it's it's documented about how we want to operate go forward peter so my point is i appreciate moving that they have to eat it too loud because there is a lot of church going on about but it might be be good to have that draft done and then we meet again on the eleventh ok maybe that's the one that we could say yeah that's what we want to share with with our legal counsel with our department heads to go get information  a move the slick court authorized the chair to sign a letter of support for both projects contingent upon acceptance and signing of a memorandum of agreement i think and that's with the talking saying about the conveyance for parcel three well number seven structure number two nine nine nine it's a great what's that this is a small piece of property there that engineers it's about twenty feet by twenty feet and it's a while and the other right parties came together to work finish the quest in the potential transfer of public works to saying that we really don't have much use for it it's really champlain water districts  rewrite it is painful for those who need to review it there would be my feedback to go back there i say ok and then we can have it on as a gent item on the september eleventh even though it's not ideal from what the l c he would like but this it gives us an opportunity to weigh in a little bit and give you some feedback as to what to take that right  so i handed out a little page of editions and this would be the first one line seventy two and one insert a paragraph that said irene asked if the town staff had worked with any of the candidates that confirmed that he had but said he wasn't part of the decision making process and wouldn't be making any recommendations and that's related to that's related to the search for a head on or five words that says in attendance were not to worry the words might playground recur recall there was agreement by the slip board after last public hearing that the people in attendance were not t worry like to add because a distinctly said this right after that period it was the people who own guns who were not in attendance that were to one twenty four to read as follows and i'm using my title here because normally in the minute sam your procedure is to call us mr meds and the person doing the spanish just to do that so i'm just requesting that throughout the minutes first of all we to titles rather than the first names over and over mr owner urge acting on the well thought out recommendations from the police chief now rather than put the results of another study on the shelf beside the study done eight years ago as runners had representation will likely be one sided as it was before because people are afraid to come forward they have been threatened as well as physically provided from attending such meetings in the past this to be heard without winning this process off any longer as it's been nearly two years since a bullet went through one lodge and family room wall she stay the different people may be prevented from coming at different times the meeting but i didn't have the time to i didn't have time to do the whole restructure of it but anyway there is definitely a fair amount missing so that's the piece of paper that i gave which mean i guess i was following the standard which here which is yeah yeah which is so do you need me to read it or yeah ok yeah so i wanted to add in at least somewhere before one forty two if sue cook stated her position in opposition to further delaying public engagement opportunities on the use of firearms in the town of essex she would like to proceed immediately with the earth here as we have already delayed response to issues brought to our attention public safety is  responsibility of the select forward r q include content explaining the need for the facilitator to identify creative approaches for ensuring the community voices can be heard which is extremely important he also for these five  utilities and i appreciate this level of detail i'm still not really sure what practically non toxic means to me that was i  think i have here i'll try again i move that this like word make a specific finding that premature general public knowledge of the slick position concerning the proposed public official appointment would place the town and a substantial move that the select board enter into executive session to discuss the proposed a public official appointment pursuant to one vs a section three thirteen a three to include the deputy town manager