into a gas station stuff like that and knowing that the well established research shows that the presence of these advertisements can we need to substance use so some of our students as you can see  if you want me to read it for you so lambert said i often see things related to substances in our community like cigarette butts i usually feel them on the ground when i'm leaving school to walk home i noticed people using tobacco at gas stations and behind the buildings i also see advertisements for cigarettes and ads  beer and blessing said just yesterday i saw people smoking close to our house i don't see smoking in school but i do around the new skete one of my neighbors has a few small kids and i see last words that you want to impart with  the discussion the one thing i would i would say i didn't see it on the approval minutes we should make note that it passed yeah the chapter list and i understand it very soon and if that were never incorporated so i think it's there and it's in there and of your package think there is an interest in walking back through those and making sure that we've captured past conversations as well as give others an well and then just jumping ahead a little bit the next gen item from last meeting is to allow this group to have some time to think about those aspirations the way the other machines are doing so i iteration and added things and so for anyone who's been watching first of all there's a repeat of every said probably that we're going to be bringing up again  points the idea of having stories of individuals in the plan i think our concept was to do that and disperse them throughout all sections but if we were going to have them concentrated area i would say it would be an interaction  the story to go with it but i think i can go all the way through  that the chapters are you know one tier three four five and these are things that we want to be included in that chapter that they could turn into subsection being me not to use that section for me just want to put just said you know stuff the public works brings in is going to overlap community services and cetera so so this is really the kind of the intro here we are a piece we are the kind of stuff two hundred two hundred fifty acres of green space hopes on this truck would always come back if someone has an idea economic vitality like e t f economic development strategic plan it's one of those planning documents that will be integrated into question that the mission is and i wasn't quite sure how to answer this because it isn't specific to them but they raised the desire they have for something like a public east tasks so for example if you like a night club or rebuilt turf this hotel ever gets built having some kind of public use tax that would help find things like extra policing or what not and i wasn't sure if our job is how to say how things are funded that's not what what if there's a concern that they have about school safety then we can talk about the concern but can't say l commensurate with the provision of like that rapid development will not necessarily be in lockstep the way the provision of services absent some kind of policy mechanism and so there question was whether they this document could express  you know it's it's located in such a place that it's every other a small to big or small alike hospital scholar's is and all of the places are easily accessible there we went through a process working with an outside consultant on economic development and he looked at kind of our strategic advantages compared to neighboring towns and i think more expressive in the city being very thoughtful about infrastructure and making sure that the fish and it's cutting edge it sustainable because the way that the state right now is just like energy resources facilities technology road side lks you know it's pretty good even though i'm and i think we'd want to be more thoughtful about like where we're spending our dollars on infrastructure making sure we're doing and i really fashioned and sustainable way so having not expressed and all of the different backgrounds so if you could mention somewhere that we have you know languages you know the  housing is typically here those whose income is six percent or less like the average and in your living room but workforce housing is more geared at those who are either making minimum wage or sort of in the middle income jobs through the middle posing that's close to their place of work which is everyone from like bank tellers and nurses to people in the service industry that's a big focus of what the house and commissions working i can assure you so we will definitely pack the house name right i've been talking to them then and there and seeing their reports and ppening every day and if there's anything some language or anything around like i guess it goes back to keeping that diversity i don't know there's any way to prevent folks from chopping up houses or that i have to look closely  that was a big topic of conversation and it's how do you it was stopping some of these older homes with chopped up but also how do you get some of the homeowners to bring  i think that part of this conversation is whether it's a call for us as a city to encourage increased sensitivity or not i personally and we'll see what the housing commission comes up with but i think that that is a positive thing for our city  it allows us to diversify our housing to an extent but if it everything becomes chopped up that's actually taking away from housing diversity and it's also if you look at filene's gave them a rental versus ownership you can take away a lot of housing is going to have a negative net effect on our housing stock i think that is something that we'll have to look at the report from the housing commission to make that determination because it really comes down to well like let's look at the numbers here wh what kind of housing is going to the who is it serving is that housing when let's say it's being chopped up it becomes a public building that has to be inspected through our program and made sure that it meets a certain standard is actually getting better all the housing in the city i mean that's something we have to look at the numbers as to how and i want to make assumptions about you know what's the net effect of that process so i think we'll have to see what the housing commission comes back up it  question could be a good place to have a conversation about what that means and in the housing commission obviously this year will come right recommendations but i wasn't sure like how this conversation as it progresses gets inserted into this plan i think one of the things away so there was a lot of discussion about that but it's since there's so many new folks it might be a good time through this to go back and start looking at those sections again he was once when we when we had of the things that we talked about was we want this to be a living document that's going to evolve and get tweaked as we go along because the last one was written in one thousand nine hundred one and it was thirty something years before it was written bridges but one of the boys was killed brooke i'm looking at that castle and those things so i think that's good and i think i don't think it would hurt that we have a statement there in there something in fact you know preserving our single family neighborhoods or i don't i'm not sure how to write it but you know having something like that in there i don't think  or you know when you're when you're converting old homes that gets a little more difficult nothing that should be in there but you know like just the planning commission putting the list together so i imagine yes we get back the other ones that are not exactly exactly i really have no idea but i think not have any idea how long each section will be till he gets there and then we can rely on whoever's writing to help us with clarity but  brain community center parcs we have a river walk in natural areas that i was thinking of some of the smaller parks that may not be covered under natural area tourism and how and i don't know i mean this could be as opposed to heart of a number of factions but we you know there has been talked about you know how do we present as a city to people who are unfamiliar with the city who are visiting both people from out perception i don't know but also about sort of how we we brand ourselves to people from the outside and how we you know what our image is i guess there's we've had th open and what about something you know we lost the y which was a great community resource we're talking about healthy people on it there's not a commitment towards creating some place  how really ineffectual and substantial the actual feedback that goes to those are what it comes to what actually happens a lot of us because from a player perspective it's really hard to do  one is community spaces like as a general topic the second one is that youth programs and especially summer youth programs and  have more comment about this but because you're doing public safety but it occurred to me too like this is a topic on face police fire that anything related to  have this and i am meeting with the public safety commission and earth when i went to their meeting they had a kind of very i suggested a feeling of very sort of specific list of things they wanted but hadn't really had the opportunity to talk about something broader i e their vision for public safety and when you ski so they have sort of really specific things like have x number of police officers by this year without sort of a sense of like because the vision we have for public safety unions he is one of vision of what what they see as the future of public safety and what they see as it being specifically for when you sleep i'm i'm glad to hear that last part because of a little bit afraid there that they're going to come back with this list of specific things and that's not what we want and i made that clear that that this isn't a this isn't a wish list or a sort of like the budget plan this is so we have healthy and i'm wondering too if we want to have something about like access to health care like   and there are some required elements by state statute and most of these not from that but as we go forward in the process we should kind of cross check ba be here for that so but to follow up on that question you know i think how we as staff and vision this and certainly you can change this process is the commission  that broadening discussion aspirations part of this effort they report back to you in june about that kind of laundry list of items and then in work plan we sent out the idea was for the next several months that the meetings are kind of broken down by chapter in the go through those concepts together and by chapter and prioritize things and really start setting  there will also be i think community process as part of that just at some point feeding back and values that you all are narrowing down to to the commission in the community to say are we on the right track here when we had talked yeah i think i immediately knew where we'll get all the information back from you to the commission and then i think you can be useful for each of us to get a copy of every commission recommendations and then go to our section that where as this is heated with our splitting up some i don't know how to put it up so that we can kind of each of us consolidate ideas into it like a clear to still thought on each of the topics that we've been talking about we're adding but like i think that it's going to be hard to entirely we've encouraged each of the commissions to like look at the area so i'm trying to make sure that the information if you know the give us feedback on an area that's unexpected that it gets tracked to that accessible to you all by categorizing it and then allowing you to weigh in on one of the priorities how are we are to killing our values around all those pieces of information so i guess if that's the case then when the planning commission itself need to have our own written recommendations or ideas so that if it's going off to someone at c c r p c to look at they know what are you know there are sections here that are really you know we have stuff sees going to go into a room and whole staff together and family back a product i think got that process will be i think they'll just be able to put the organizational structure around how you look at the diner but that ultimately those kind of talked about those things so i think to me it's kind of doing an organized step by step where we have the important or p c will section of the plan but it seems like that's their only option well so i think i heard talking about a couple different things here and i look to you except i have not been to all the housing company one housing commission meeting yeah i think what they're really focused on right now is understanding the universe of what we currently have and trying to set up some trying to recommend targets and tools  around the values that they've identified for our housing stock i don't think that quite frankly i don't think that that precludes you all from having some of those conversations i do think you know the density conversation of those kind of value conversations those are going to be the conversations our community has for the next decade and so i think having having that take place in a couple of different areas areas is not back i think more voices in that conversation the better but yes they are a cycle ends and they are working really hard and doing a lot of work in it so i think that you might think about that how you in the meeting the content of the strategic vision areas you focus on first they could give us in june you know so that to guide us and she said we're not going to be ready to do anything until august on you know in terms of the housing section and i think it would be even if we just got some proficient to ration for a high level yeah so i think you work around and i think quite frankly that's hard for people i think it's much easier for volunteer policymakers to get down in the weeds and to think about specific service delivery systems and so i think it's your ideally i would love it to be your all roles like lawrence when we come back safety to help hole those value statements out of the weeds that they're talking about i think you're going to get a mess and i don't think we we while we want to give them guidance and help help shape some of those conversations i don't think we want to at this point say don't give us  break think we're in broadening they want to say give us the give us what you're talking about and thinking about and then how that translates into the values for our community for this document is the work of th and you're right i think it is going to be going to be some work that we have to do to help with all the stuff we get to play how is like say i think that's a good idea what i did talk about my hands when we talked with them about it at the joint city council trustees meeting last year in the fall one of the things you talk about is the school has done a lot of their own vision in process recently and has a lot of information to give that they don't need to repeat some of these planning process since they have done a lot of it we don't have i haven't provided that the way i provided the other documents because from him so right i can book him and i think there it there is some document i am pretty sure it sounded like he he kind of really had a clear vision about what he wanted to include so here and there that i know he did talk about the last  but i do think that we should have a set of all the topics saturday i think as a planning commission and we are an appropriate body to be really talking about that and delving deep into it and we have it i don't necessarily meeting on the twenty fourth those two candidates will come in those interviews will be out in executive session so be a little bit of a different kind of meeting what i was hoping we could have a quick conversation about is sorry when you second it's going to be a different format because the interviews are going to be very executive session executive session and then of that at the break so we're we're calling when they're coming to talk to us and interview yeah ok sad what are some opportunities and challenges you see and everybody talks about opportunity but very few talk about the challenges and i think it be really helpful just to know their perception of the challenges for  implementation work we are doing this year to implement the council's goals so that's an open council meeting will be from ninety to one of those c c on june second so people are interested in testing and of course in hopefully next year will we do four areas of focus where we've outlined a bunch of activities we need to do the next couple of weeks and months the grant consults the applications of course identifying other revenue streams working