so over there also under vermont lot if you're interested in a certain application i would encourage you to speak some comments if you have hope for one were interested in your comments as neighbors also if you ever want to appeal any decision of ours you need to have a stablished yourself is what's called an interested party and so we've got three applications on the agenda tonight and i would for the board a couple of these applications are requesting us to grant waivers of final  hearing and accept it and in the past this board's done that but we've done that when an application is complete so i would nervous to consider that if an application is not complete that we should reserve whether we want to grant a waiver for the final hearing or not so the first matter on the agenda example cation fifteen dash zones any question on that is or do you see that of that property and we are we where we have is basically twelve acres of mental land and the remaining being forest it as it stan today it was much larger in metal land many years ago and any rate of the subdivision impacts itself in parents about eighteen percent of the no also on this where you have all long canyon road for all sleepy hundred feet basically the whole road frontage is separated with a primary itself getting back to the site we knew we had with general sloping site growth from the end of the last six to the entrance of the road at three and a half percent so i mean that we do not have erosion control issues during construction and after construction basically what we have is be me all the criteria with the state is far a sequence that is not written up but the sequence is very basic with this site that is in the major impact we have barrier tape that will go on the project you know after that we will see install silk fence which owns see a old one you'll see a white orange line with boxes that the silt fence which pretty much covers the whole area  road itself on both sides of the construction of the road entrance will go in for stabilization so we do not create  you know basically it will be yes that's right ok and how are you dealing with are you including the spur off to lots seven and changes to the lock configuration so everything fit well on the site and there is no issues with the isolation distances road maintenance agreement because the ninth lot will still have access to that right of way it still should be an awkward maintenance agreement so that you reserve that right that night plot to use that access so everything should say nine lots  agreement that they can't book but does but the farm houses all the other sources for act but if you ever want to use it then then why would you of but the culdesac if you don't ever want to use it in the future so if you're going to use in the future  right of way i'm curious to know your deed language says the fifty foot access really fifty foot wide and our regulations for subdivision require a sixty vote right of way are you asking for a waiver on ten feet calculation well it triggers yes anything anything that's one of the three small force may still have to stabilize so calculate for me what up one on three slope is percentage wise or percentage wise questions from the board will open up to the public any questions from the public weeks when the applicant goes to the slot board for an access permit which they've got that dislike word of the road foreman takes that into consideration to tell you the truth i have no idea whether they do do or not take into consideration the there was a discussion with peter gosling myself on sunday and we went over all the pretty teary and we didn't feel that this would have it lots would not have done much of an impact on straightening out canyon road through the very difficult area so i know he's aware that in the future that might be a discussion that we would like the town like like him to go to a table think and participate in s the end we have to show that we have some sort of the storage capabilities for example if you have again a single family houses five g so if you have a static level twenty or thirty feet down you have a ton of stores to meet the instantaneous demand of the house so if it doesn't then i got to design either more expansion  if you can see how the i would suggest that i would like to see the waste water from it i'd like to see the map drawing with the right with the roadway of the right of way on it i'd like to see the main disagreement for much seven eight so i would suggest that we discuss a pool whether  and then we move to executive session on  see i don't know if we have to go to deliberative section i think we've already expressed what david wants to see to have for the final was there any other issues that we could just amend the motion and just either approve or or two point six nine years i have a wastewater permit from the state of vermont i have all the required documents submitted requesting that i get a ok didn't make it into our packet so how many people use that that road away from symmetry road to others other lay a budding landowners use that  ok that doesn't mean that they own it but it at least gives us a starting point i know some of my neighbors had said that they did i believe mr rudolph would said that he owned it so i personally i don't care who owns it i have a legal right of way right but we probably care because i'd like to know where my question is going to this is you know if other people o they're going to have to join and then he made it's agreements that you have and that's where my concern is because other people may have rights to use that either now or the grass so that's really a question maybe that will come out tonight i don't know i'm sure some of the people here once they waste their opinions will actually say whether or not they let me help let's reserve that bed for public comment because you purchase from far i purchased it from my parents who  some all right so my experience with mr far is that most of his land in the town or richmond is up to active fifty and the people that purchase from this too far because once action fifty project review sheet for my subdivision or for summer fars from did you did you go to work so the project of you shit you have is that was that done for you or was that done for me so yeah and did you ever receive anything from history for the fire chief i have not but you should submit something to him something was submitted  guys so this is your driveway must comply with the public works projects or do standards what do you understand that to be whatever's in the zoning documents that's that's how it will be operated so that would be the section from some of the dirt road in your property that you understand well whatever is required by the town i'll do what is th of the driveway from cemetery all the way up to the last glass house individual costs so if somebody else would like to use the road i'm sure my neighbors will buy in let me know how they'd like to use it then if that's the case then we can figure out how much their cost the underground it's the one that posed power in the one your your construction company installed and originally to your house yeah but it's going to go under line so i would suggest in your easements of for your maintenance for the system itself that you say it's a shared system but you probably shared simple language that the costs are to be shared equally or however you propose so that's not debated once somebody buys also i know you have a question about that one and being an attorney i think you can answer th first of all for approval to step language have to be something that a lawyer would accept in that something the board will accept  for you but i'm going to tell you that what i would ask is that you declare what kind of is it if a charity equally that's the two lots of shared equally but that's that your decision of how you're going to ask the two lots to share  normally i would say it would be shared equally but you're wastewater per bit also requires a homeowner's association to be formed have you done that yet and i believe that language  required for this meeting the other than the other surveys in separate planes i went off of the requirements that were best there it is only because of that their wintering areas there that we now have to take into account so if i were to put something on there right now would that be acceptable in norwich on the well because that i believe is on the s interview it's not on the other list is in the sketch plan is different than the others the requirements are different it's assumed that the skies plan information will roll into a preliminary plan and go into the final plan so to present a preliminary and a final and then come back with a sketch plan with all the details that we would have wanted to see to begin with is is quite backwards i'm just letting you know so when saying it doesn't need to be on our plans it starts on the sketch plan and it's supposed to transfer into a preliminary and a final ok i didn't i didn't read the requirements that way i read them somewhat differently but that's my understanding of the purpose of the requirements and that's only my own personal interpretation one on three slope and i think yours is larger i think you're slope is greater than a one on three slope so you would like to  is that a requirement for usenet so no i'm not on one of the checklists that the tone provides it sounded like it was something that they dealt with  looking at the subject this would not be able to to know that that was requ ok we can consider and the other questions from the board so i would probably rely on the expertise of the excavation you're doing the work to determine the size of the call this isn't you because this euro is this is a copy of something out of a book showing how color is put in  road grade ten percent minimum for at least twelve feet from t think about it would could i ask a question about that particular question that just got asked and here it is if this is approved that i have three building wants here the road maintenance as well connected ish as far as road maintenance agreements and god how it can be written in the language that until such time that somebody is going to develop their lock they are not required to a portion of the road maintenance ok as many different ways to grade knows how to make sense agreement and i think that's the issue you're trying to address and that would be between you and mr lockwood how you finalize and work things out for the future development of the right of way but if you think it's an issue that i understand you're bringing up going from the fifty foot to the sixty foot right of way because you don't only on both sides unlike the previous developer who didn't own land on both septic systems at their place but the sample can get receive a permit from the state so you're probably going to have to go back to the state and discuss that with the district environmental office which is located at one of my street a answer people's questions thank you very much is application fifteen dash zero eight zero nine hundred thirty sniper ireland road applicant procol wade through its agent right preston overlay district in agricultural residential zoning district  ventura getting the town road so ten years ago and i have a photograph of this larry and i will go for the or be to upgrade another venice bridge on the eastern portion of our property by jacking it up in the putting concrete way squawks two feet high underneath that and the bridge we did two years ago as two rows of them want to meet side of the stream twelve feet wide the bridge the bridge we did two years ago on this bridge there ten feet water's going to come out of the stream i want more of it to go under the second section of the bridge than around it to try to keep it out of town the bridge is a lot bridge so it's only use december fifteenth through april fifteenth by venice we're proposing to make it a stronger bridge utilizing hemlock timbers we currently have a long job going on and mark waltrip our l that that's the letter from greg and are here and it also includes an email from the highway foreman saying he supports what we're trying to do i think and i need your help here i think we're looking and it's not used for the public other than by for bassem tire vehicles will not use it i don't use it unless you know cross country skiing or snowmobile we are designing it so a groomer could cr if they needed to but conveniently east the west traveling groom there and he's travelling earlier turn around on each side of the bridge currently so it doesn't have to be used by a groomer but it could be and we're designing it to that effect and mark walter of our water who's the installer he puts in more bridges than many of us so we have comfort that we're designing it well our engineer is advise ing else to change our cable all the wooden components to the concrete waste blocks of concrete ways blocks have been on the top of them so you can handle them and the bridge that we did two years ago it's there cable to the the bridge itself is cabled to the county wastewater and then we're going to put on the upstream side of each of the three concrete piers rocks to prevent erosion and then the middle pier i'm proposing to put a waste block on in and sink it in the ground two feet so that we really prevent any sort of under scouring on the on the on the middle block because that's the one that's provide to you we are providing a net infill of two hundred sixty one square feet which so somewhere else on proposed property in the middle of the floodplain not too far from there i'm proposing to excavate a sixteen foot by thirty two foot by half foot area and remove the soil and put it out of the floodplain so that on our property there's no net change in phil i think i did the calculation road side is lower the metal there is lower than the metal on the far side of the bridge so the far side never freezes the slopes it always flows between the bass bridge and the town road and we're not proposing to ok so what do we know we have one sort of minutes i think to look at i didn't see anything in there did anybody seven nine