for the construction initiation date imposed but what if occasion for of resolution eleven dish twenty three which would then require that a project construction begin by march eighteenth two thousand and eighteen and be completed by march eighteenth twenty twenty secured financial backing with a new partner and at the property should break ground in a pact proximately eighteen months therefore we are requesting two year extension so the i mean did received her carroll's memo february twenty second regarding question that it rose during the last meeting and we have responded and we are here today chanter any additional questions also mr singh dhoni the developer is also present today to answer any other questions you may have thank you i think the only thing that i would say is that i'm certainly hopeful that this project does get built but that last week asking a couple of questions about water supply for the project we wrote a letter dated the twenty sixth which understand got to deliver it a little bit late to this committee but  nonetheless indicates we're willing to proceed to approve the water service a water a lateral plan for the project there are this is this is a little bit complicated in the sense that we don't have adequate tankage in the pressure zone for this project and what we regard as adequate tankage but we're we think we found the economical solution for the developer and an applicant and  course a satisfactory solution for the department be happy to try and answer any questions you may have you know i can't i can't guess as to what the increment cost if you're asking why that's necessary it's really just a question of flow given the ambient pressure and the water supply whether we can get the appropriate flow for fire protection for the projects for fire protection not necessarily to the flow i mean the pressure in the each units that's a separate issue from the pressure issue ok it just relates to the fire flow and you're also saying that they entered into this elevation agreement until a and b builds their thing that's going to be the cheapest solution right now what does that effect going to have on the units i mean it's actually an agreement that  the owners of the units agreed to accept what may be a slightly lower pressure than we would normally deliver to a project that should not impair the project in any material way but it's and  it's a borderline case until the new tank gets gets developed which should supply of higher pressure regime for this project and they have the upper portion of the project as well so typically in a borderline case like that this is  keep forgetting it's one hundred twenty units right when you say you might have a pressure problem and that's if everybody turns on the other facets right or is that a situation where three or four people you know before they go to bed or early in the morning when they're all taking showers that might be where's the range i guess is ok i'm going to ask you to answer the question that it's it's a borderline question and we simply want to make sure that that we're mentioned you know people use water all in their whole mile all that the scene time it could fluctuate so it could drop below our standard of the forty p s i which we like to provide for people so and not only that but his property johnson tony's property on it does go higher up in elevation which then decreases pressure obviously as you go further up the hill so that's why we would like to have this agreement in place to ensure that you know that if it does come up that they are aware that they'll have to they can put in a booster pump station and tank if they want to but until the in the tank comes on line that that agreement can be removed or deleted from that property so now for everything yeah so it's kind of a worst case scenario correct my concern is going to be you know getting the calls hey how come this is our pressure so low but if you got the agreement is enough to keep the pressure up under circumstances like this where we have adjoining projects and sort of a stepwise increment you build the system and  according to proper system standards i'm in good practical engineering practices that would dictate that you have one tank and not rely upon bush to pump since the smaller tanks that would become obsolete in two years three  years these are fifty two hundred year assets and that's the kind of thing the department wants to make sure that it their plan for properly installed properly and maintainable and that's the reason for that determination as to the larger tank being the appropriate solution ok and lastly if i may mr chair you talk about there's going to be this pressure issue if they if they sign the elevation agreement that's go enough to satisfy you but at the same time there's an issue with potentially an issue with fire pressure right fire service pressure so i guess it sounds like if there's going to be an issue with domestic pressure now than there already is going to be the issue with fire pressure or no that's not the case but we had a court order for protection for the subdivision for trucks have pumps on board into it just to add to that so we because we we really don't know what the gallon per minute will be as a requirement for fire protection that's why that statement about eight and show twelve inch i mean just assume that's assuming if they need a two thousand g p m which is kind of typical for these projects that that's how we got the eight to twelve upsizing as far as like the pressure concerned yeah there might be into we know exactly what they're coming in for i mean you know it's one hundred twenty units approximately but until we see the building permit which spent specifies exactly what they're building that's when we go ahead and you know work with our department and all of that for the fire protection requirements but pressure wise it is i guess a possibility depending on the timeline of the a b tank and their project that they may have to build like a a tank or booster me perhaps to supply the pressure needed for the fire protection till they can ok i mean by i can't really say sure sure one way or the other ok it's all about timing i guess you know hopefully maybe they can still go ahead and construct construct it with them you know that could still be a possibility do you just depends on timing of so that's i wouldn't say that's necessarily off the table or anything ok yeah all right well thank you very much they can provide but there is no like a law or certain how does that are you i guess required or mandated in a sense to give a certain amount of pressure to users yeah i don't think there's like a i don't know if you're saying that a colder order and saying already but that's just like our our policy and then when it comes to fire situations it could drop to twenty i mean it's a possibility when there's a big draw like that it can drop to twenty wood is the the the consumer whatever on the receiving end if it does go below that type of pressure what can they do well i guess that's what the elevation agreement will if that's why we enter into elevation agreements with individuals because if we do know it's marginal in we would like to enter into those because those then in essence say well you know you may be below or forty but you do have the options to build a booster tank or whatever but that's on their their diet basically be would have to take care of that so it's not that they don't have options it's just that the water department will be the one to come in and build the facilities to boost your pressure for whatever you whatever pressure you need so ok so for this project i guess the owner builder whatever would need to left a prospective buyer know that this could be a possibility this and be a disclosure i it something happened or are you going to become a private private so they would have to deal directly with obviously that but on the colony end pressure drops below what is the happen but i guess that comes into the whole master planning of the area to figure out ok if the pressure is consistently on a low basis then we need to obviously fix the side to make sure we do provide adequate for sure for see responses here do you recall my five questions i had given to this committee three have but two are still answered and i don't see an official there just answered throughout the discussion thus far but i don't see anything like officially taped written in your correspondence so if i me maybe put don't see it in your correspondence official correspondents here via this committee in our binder right now agreed that once the i was approved for my extension then we had the water resolved that we would make an appointment i would sign the agreement and have it notarized and send it back to her and i'm  jupiter holdings concerns number three there are there i don't number three in order for this project to proceed it needs to have adequate water supply and pressure therefore we need to be sure that the ws will provide this for the project eventually homeowners without adequate water this project cannot proceed and in the ws his response is sort of have that are you ok with that are they are they ok with that i will have to kind just received a letter when i got here today oh ok sponsor us and i'm i feel very confident that i think we can work together to make it a win win for everybody ok yet if this were to pass out today it takes a couple weeks before it gets to council and i may even there's there unilateral agreement involved in this are we already there was already signed it wasn't yeah so before it gets too full council probably would like a response to the department of water supplies the letter from jupiter from jupiter ye i'd be happy to supply that went when would you lie out like that by before before it comes to full council if it passes today before it comes to full council absolutely but you're can you're ok with everything that was in the packet from briefly reading it and i only read it once since i received it about twenty thirty minutes ago for you know persevering with all this so i hear the department is ok with allowing the lateral then talk you know all the discussion about the upper level water tank but the actual source the actual source that's going to be provided to the system itself is coming from where the water source coming from the county so it is county water ok so no private or anything on your behalf and things of that nature we are going to drill a landscape well on the property to supply all the water for the landscape through the project and also for the adjacent park and we're also going to upgrade the park and fix it up so hopefully the kids can enjoy it right and thank you appreciate that very much and i have i'm trying to figure out  request would come as the added condition or anything something that way but basically i was wondering if this committee this body could be informed of when realized until the project is constructed and sold so at that point he would you know that are in the credits and be able to enter into agreements if you want to sell them at the one thing ok thank you but i guess also having this body informed of when this occurs is that usual usually done at all or zero way to requests or is it just our place to follow follow a big lunch thank you corporation counsel for being here my other question is in regards to a possible condition of sorts to make sure that we can't put an extension upon an this was thrown into the result to allow for this extension in the first place we can enter into some kind of agreement with  i would recommend putting it into the tall one h at this point you know that that's kind of a locked up document will probably confirm through the resolution it'll confirm that the council desires this extension when we actually do an agreement with the developer we'll make sure to throw some language in stating that is the council's intent that this was the final extension and that will probably be in a committee report zero zero zero committee report on this i know it'll probably be in the minutes of this meeting that that's the are you surprised me or wrote anything further county affordable housing agreement that we all signed and there is a form stating any sale or transfer for the credits and i'll document it from us to whomever at what time and it's a form that's long is the affordable sale period i believe it was three years is that correct yes ok yes three years ok out keep it at the affordable price for how long you have proximately works out to three years i think it's usually it's a graduated scale ok thank you thank you so it's not one of those ninety day as i've seen all these other agreements as you got it you have ninety days and then it doesn't have to be affordable there's one in my district right now that's going on that they're not going to sell it in ninety days you get two weeks left and it's going to jump right to market which i'm a little is in it stays there for ninety days if it's not sold within ninety days it goes up to the next category so if you're already at the top category then you're right it is ninety days and it goes from i guess before was  forty to one sixty two market if you're at like below eighty then it go to eighty after ninety days then i go to one hundred after ninety days so it can take a while but for those high end ones i could be ninety days right but i think we put language i remember seeing at last meeting that we put language in there for three i seem to recall three years is one of the whereas this i see and i think mr singh danny is agreeing with that all right that's i just wanted to make sure to thank you critical to do it i check that if it's not it if we don't pass it over an eighteen it's done it's did ok so there's not really a awful lot of choice we want to give it a chance ok so if there is no