thank you good evening in welcome to the thursday february fifteenth two thousand and eighteen meeting of the dominant planning board my name is charles clarke on the chair of the playing board i should introduce you jeff wheeler the town planner spencer govan who's the assistant town planner welcome we have a full agenda evening although i should know two things at the beginning of the agenda we have two applications that have incomplete plans and information that that has not been submitted on time to the planning board that does not give the playing board time enough to the applications we will discuss that when we get to those things i would remind any applicants to have all their information prepared in final form with all the items that are required before the  public hearings are notified if the plane doesn't have the information in time to review it thoroughly i don't think we can go forward in those cases so that's a point of water that it's not only to the applicants that every forest today but it's applicants in the future so that's the atlantic where the second item has to do with i know there will be all that will be watching at home and that may be here now they're interested in the g r zoning issue let me make a clarification the there section of the g r zoning that has to do with new construction of single and two family houses which is sunsetting which means that it will expire  this spring we will address that and it will be a relatively straightforward change in that we will with the approval and consent of the board just eliminate the sunset clause in that that would be one item on the warrant there will be a second item on the warrant that will be a relatively small change in procedures that has to do with small  dormers and we are hoping with the input from the public and discussion on the planning board that for small items like that they will continue to have a public hearing and they will move from the planning  but that's just creepy for anybody that's interest in that and i know there were some people who had concerns about that and if we weren't clear enough on that i take the blame this month so let's go forward we have and for this to actually which i've already discussed we will then update cases and playing board projects we will discuss the adult use their one issue and how we will deal with that in terms of planning then we'll take a look at a project that will be coming before us on bacon street will determine for analytics what the neighborhood is and so that's our agenda for this evening so the first item on our agenda is a public hearing for twenty three states center avenue which which as i recall is as i was reading through the documents i remember you came before us in two thousand and fourteen and just told we have to we have to read up and i remember that came and i thought to myself that was two thousand and fourteen it doesn't seem that long ago but it was  read the public hearing notice for twenty three center avenue steve notices hereby given that the planning the belmont planning board will hold a public hearing on thursday february fifteenth two thousand eighteen at seven pm in the meeting room town hall fifty five conquered have to consider the application of michael mcnamara for a special permit under section six point one one of the zoning by law to enlarge a previously approved historic assessor rebuilding accessory building accessory you've provided us with quite a bit of documentation do we have this online that we can we can talk about we can present as well and you tell us why you hear what the situation is what you want to sure and just yourself i'm sorry my name is mike mcnamara on the the owner and i see you know one of my neighbors and the person who currently lives in the apartment came down  tonight so as you said i was before the planning board in two thousand and fourteen when we moved in because when we moved in there was an apartment that was occupied in the building we wanted to make sure that that came under the code it was legal and all that and so we did that and people have been living there actually the same two people been living there for a few years now and it turns out that we don't use the half of the carriage house that isn't part of the apartment and so the carriage house is kind of a almost in a v shaped so one wing of that is that apartment in the other wing was a home office for tom blake's business when he on the property and so after the past couple years we don't use the don't use the building you know we have a basement in the main house or we store most of our stuff and we end up not using the two rooms in the apartment and we talk to jake or jennifer currently live there and when we rented it a lot of people were hesitant because the bedroom is in the basement it's kind of dark down there and there's no dining room and so those were kind of the feedback that we got when we were trying to rent it and we thought that it would be nice to be able to bring that bedroom sort of above ground so there's a nice light and if you have a bathroom on that first kind of main living floor and have a dining room up there and principally what we're trying to do and finish off some of the basement storage kind of area and so that's what we're asking the board to approve and we come before you because the special permit had a specific clause it that said if we were going to expand the living area at all then we needed to come before you and ask for permission to do that before we did it so that's why we're here know you'll see how much caffeine i had today which is a lot and so ok so this is the floor plan for the upper level this is what we're proposing to do to the unit and so right now the existing unit is this area here which is kind of a living area plus kitchen and then there's a hard lockable door here that leads into a workshop room and an office kind of room that tom blake used for his business he was a construction into construction so he had sort of special projects here and certain working down there and now if you go to the new so here's what we proposed to do which would be to open up the wall here which would join kind of the  apartment with this new split this other space this would become a dining room with a with a walk through to a master bedroom and bathroom kind of on the for on that first living floor which is where  the most amount of time as that's what we're looking to do to the the upper floor and then for the lower floor what we would do is just sort of there's a door here already and what we just do is finish off the space and remove the stairwell that is really needs to be removed and then in the new space just you know provide for a mechanical room some closet and some storage space in that up stairs right now the entrance is kind of tucked away in the side of the house where you can't really see it unless you really know what you're looking for and so they would be able to enter the apartment through this door here through the garage and then on the upper floor there's also an entrance into the bedroom which is kind of right here but in the upper floor right there it's a little awkward but it is awkward because you enter into the bedroom and so would really be for the the people that live there if they were coming home and they wanted to just kind of walk up outside and go in to their bed and they could do that i would expect that this this particular entrance wouldn't get used all that much i think in talking to and jennifer or they end up kind of coming in through the garage to enter enter the building so now they would be able to enter into that sort of door that's right about here on the first floor right into the kind of into the apartment and then have access to kind of a closet with kind of for coats and things like that and it makes the space a lot more usable you know it's a big mud room and you know so would you actually doing issue adding  a dining room so basically you have a stacked apartment now right correct you have a stacked apartment now so what you do is you're you're expanding into the workshop area on the second floor that little section of there's a bathroom so this is the main living floor so this is the kind of living area a living room area kitchen a dining room and then a bedroom with kind of in suite bath kind of thing and what that allows for is just kind of  the main living kind of space would be on that first floor  most of the waters over here so be kind of a straight run back to run the pipes out to the main drain which should be relatively easily easy and actually when i sent out the e mail kind of there's a start the historic bar and we also have a letter from the historic district commission that says that they're fine with this and basically are you changing anything on the outside of that no the outside just just to be clear just before we go we ask the public to speak so the building on the i'm ok you know is that changing at all not it is not at all ok so it's got is this going to look exactly the same from the outside as it does now except for there's something that's exactly right and just so that everybody is on the same page we already have a permit to paint the outside but it took so long to get the permits paint the outside we missed the season last year so they'll be door leading into the bedroom the by law prevents you from doing any change to the exterior of the structure unless it's in violation the building code as well as it also provide it also prevents o exit on the floor of the windows so that's right so there's a safety well that's that's bent on this right the there is a door here and to that any doubt to a roof deck right so you can get outside of the building right you know it's a bit of a jump if you more questions is there are there any neighbors or members of the public who wish to address us in regard to this application you have so i have a sense of the board that we don't have issue with the most complete application yeah do you hear the motion that we approve this post was there first special permit to enlarge a previously approved historic accessory dwelling unit within the existing structure of twenty three center of the hearsay second author thank you very much this is your by given that the planning belmont planning board will hold a public hearing on thursday february fifteenth two thousand and eighteen at seven pm in this board of selectmen meeting room town hall four fifty five concord i have to consider the application of the silliest focus focus for a special permit under one point section one point five point four the zone and by law is to alter a non conforming structure so i'd step back ten feet your interest inches allowed six point one feet existing and proposed in order to application complete and unfortunately this was a new application and from actually fell through the cracks for us staff for me particularly and so there are several pieces of information missing issue that not everything is in place and it's hard to go forward get everything in place all of this is the public hearing so i don't think that at this point it's fair to you or fair us to go forward and discuss this when we don't have final plans in hand and so i would suggest i would suggest  that we we can we let if anybody would like to discuss this project at this time any of the neighbors that have promised that we will hear those comments but that we will follow that move the public hearing forward we'll continue we will continue the public hearings so i'll ask it this time if there are any other any neighbors or members of the public that would like to comment on this application seeing none yes sir geoffry or spencer will get in touch with you tomorrow and tomorrow in detail exactly what we need to go forward in terms of this i this evening so do i hear a motion to continue the public hearing on thirty to thirty two more rain until march twentieth so here second thinking on favre so you c the next the next case is to construct a new single family home that one seventy two one seventy four lexi in st which which is a property that  tension that there were a number of incomplete items in the application that was notified on the public hearing and we have new plans we will not read decent discuss these this evening i think i talked about the issue of having an incomplete application and sufficient time for the playing board to go through their process it wouldn't be fair to the public or to the opposite if we did that but what i will do at this time is i will open up the floor to any neighbors or members of the public that have comments on what they know in terms of this project with anybody like to speak so this is complete we have everything now yes at this point ok ok and i will make a motion that i'll make the motion myself that we that we continue the public hearing on one seventy two and yes right well if we don't have the information is not fair to the applicant for to us to do oh incidentally in terms of the applicant i meant to say this to the other applicants would you please i referred i referred imparted to the beginning of the meeting to what you have now is very different than what was presented in the last meeting and i'll talk about it in a moment board will hold a public hearing on thursday february fifteenth twenty eighteen do i have this right twenty fourteen is twenty one interesting eighteen twenty eighteen yes i was wondering if we had a flash residence g r zoning districts first section one point four i'm sorry one point five point four non conforming single and two family residential structures inserting exceptions establishing thresholds and allowing for certain small structure old structural and cations alterations by right and to section sixty site plan review and special permit requirements for two family dwellings and duplexes in the general residence zoning districts delete the sunset and enhance the performance standards and guidelines for new to family homes and duplexes these amendments are proposed the existing g r amendments will expire on june thirtieth twenty eight team these amendments are intended to generate greater public process and  to promote construction that is compatible with the surrounding built environment the complete text of the proposed running amendment is available for review at the office of community development at the town courts office and we just handed out copies anyone wishing to be heard on this issue should be should appear at this time the notice here section six d is the only part of the g r zoning that sunsetting correct so there will be a warrant article on that and in the public hearing noticed part of here it says we're going to delete the sunset clause an enhanced performance standards and guidelines for new to family homes and duplexes that's incorrect we are simply on that is section which is the part which has to do for construction of single into family homes in the g r district where we're proposing will have a discussion about this to only delete the date and to make it permanent no other changes will be made in that if that's agreeable to the members of the board we'll discuss that part first and then the second part is  has to do it the front part of the zoning and it is a minor technical change in which we are trying to keep the public process in terms of small  k so they'll be two votes they'll be town meeting they'll be to water no one will be just to take the sunset clause off the part that's sunsetting can we talk about ok the the change that so this is the part that is expiring if we don't do something about this we've had we've had a public hearing on the general g people to come forward and talk about that we've heard that in general people like what's happened in the g r we believe that the mandate that we've heard is to maintain it to make it permanent our suggestion and this is subject to discussion of the board is to eliminate geoffrey in my correct eliminate section sixty point two which is the time to leave that that will be the only change to that  section before i asked the board for comments are there any comments from the audience in terms of this from the public this is just the part of the new construction this is the part concerning new construction doesn't have anything to do with decks or porches the only thing that's that's changed on this is is we're taking out the time the meeting and saw the powerpoint and so it sounds like there were fourteen people who contacted the planning board about this i just want to check is that fourteen people total or fourteen emails and it is that the mandate the fourteenth or well excuse me what i was referring to and this doesn't have what was what was discussed last time was hypothetical changes ok in the whole thing right we heard when i talked about the mandate with the general consensus that i had heard not from that time but when we had the public hearing before this was a public hearing last time  was that the residents especially the residents of the district thought that it made an appreciable change for the better in development conditions in those neighborhoods and they were supportive of it and much of what we've actually heard is they didn't want to see any changes we had some ideas that would put forth last time the responses that you're referring to that came from last time were a number of changes that were made in this part and other parts and those are here so none of them have represented here at this point so that all this does is just take out the time stamp ok i understand i was just trying to clarify what you i'm sorry what you've heard from the town and if it was just fourteen people or just to get a sense of what we heard from mandate a number of ok what i meant was was that the changes that  ok yeah no i wasn't referring to the specific hypotheticals i was referring to in general and the comments from the townspeople about the amendment in general which would lead you to only seek to amend the time limitation part and not resident right here if it meets the requirements there are a few things to go into the soils testing right now and i guess whatever the building department wants we've got to get it we have the prince and  take i spent about twenty five thousand dollars already to try to get this because my family's been in belmont probably you know maybe one hundred years and i'm going to stay here so i want you guys to help me out of you can well won't discuss specific cases at this time but if the if the frontage in the lot size i asked meets the requirements all the house on the street is the same size if it meets the requirements of it is applying to the new construction piece of it and we are concerned about the issues with doing small improvements to homes decks etc and that is something we'll address in two minutes so that was another head conversation looks ok so so just to clarify we're done right now on the part of the public hearing that has to do with new construction ok so that's the part that sunsetting that will be a separate or an item we simply ticked off that so it'll be in place exactly the way there is now for new construction of single family into family homes it'll be exactly the same no change in that so we're done with that part of the public here there's a second part of the public hearing which has to do with we've already read the whole thing right there which which has to do with some of the issues that have come up to us if it has to do with tax it has to do with patios small additions small dormers and things and  cases since twenty fourteen through august of this past year all in all looks like you know i know them more decks six were dormers seven were additions sometimes the planning board is the heavier hand than the z b a is and that's appropriate for for larger construction it may not be appropriate for smaller construction section one point five point four which is nonconforming single went to family residences ok so there is a change though that we made in what it's the thirty percent rate so what  placeholder thirty percent thirty percent is the number from a single resident see in it with respect certainly to that district people seemed to be comfortable with that here however it's a placeholder it's highlighted because that number is yet to be determ what i'm going to be talking to exactly also eight references pacifically that what you're looking at in addition greater than thirty percent or which is number three which is the voluntary demolition of a single two family structure that you have to refer to section sixty eight which establishes performance standards in the special permit criteria which the board will use to review those  which goes to the zoning board keeps the public process in play so you can still have to have an opportunity to have input because a lot of the impetus for this entire g r amendment was to have some sort of public input so th explanation of thank you this is in the section of the zoning the one point five is the nonconforming uses construction ok so and this section and it's page one fourteen there's know providing that it's fine and we determine that it doesn't it isn't detrimental to the neighborhood so what this is basically doing is it's expanding that just a bit and giving you a criteria non conforming situation it would go to the zoning board anyway without any of this so that if you even before all of this started if you were trying to do a non conforming deck you would end up at the c b s trying to get a permit so this is just puts us in the same spot base as we were before we enacted this whole thing to begin with so it's it's it's it's mostly a change in process which hopefully will streamline things for people who are applying for simple things like  generous and district is seventy nine years where feet the median is two thousand square feet proximately the average size of a two family home in the general the rest of direct is about twenty six hundred square feet the median is about twenty six minutes and what these two maps do basically is build off of that in show what would be the impact if you had ten percent increase if you twenty percent increase and if you had a fifteen percent increase i'm sorry ten fifteen twenty the legend breaks it down by existing building size and need to know what is small and the definition of small is to be sat in the not wall in the data years shows that the higher the percentage increased obviously the larger projects are going to be larger and so it really is  being used to inform what is small and fine with small ones well let me just let me just bring out hugh brought up an issue earlier one of the other meetings that we can put a square foot on nice thing that was that it was my understanding it may not be accurate quote if that is the case that's the reason why we're going about it this way to present yes that's that's the reason why we're going about  percent rather than say one hundred fifty feet or so so what then so help me with the math on this so on a single family ok in the general residence district what would twenty percent be so twenty percent would be three hundred forty feet on the average on the median twenty percent would be for hundreds of feet correct  it would be let's see it on the average it would be for the two family on the average student the five hundred twenty square feet on the median it would be the same so ok so twenty percent seems fairly substantial i mean those a decent size that those decent or those small additions what was the board's sense of that depends on the size of the house ok that's the problem with the percentage of years that we had any percent to twenty percent of a very big house is a very big addition yes and that works in the s r c because we're dealing with a problem with janay exactly we've got to imagine as a neighborhood that was one of the reasons we were able to to go with that because a very large percentage of the homes are of a very certain type in the g r district were all over the map in terms of size and and lot size and a lot coverage and everything else so it's it gets a little tricky just going with the percentage i'm not not arguing against it i'm just saying that there are things we need to be considerate of according to the size of a house and giving the dimension there and saying ok anything over twenty five hundred square feet has to be this or that as opposed to a dimension that has to do with the size of an addition to one hundred fifty square mean i don't know where this hundred where that where the square footage restriction comes from but it seems to me that would be easier in this case to come up with a just a number of you know what's a deck size hundred fifty square feet or three hundred square feet or something like that if we can do that i'm just throwing that out there and and you're you're the guru on this i know the percentage would be in some sense you know  is a reasonable way to to approach things i'm just a little nervous about putting a large percentage number out there when we're dealing with a very large property well it might have its way and that's what spencer did the breakdown exactly of the gradations in terms of color you know you had so many properties that are this size what does that mean terms if you add twenty percent and you can see how many problems would be affected and about which it would be incredibly well that there's another way to go family it's two hundred six two hundred sixty s square feet it's hundred like a hundred and fifty or one hundred sixty at ten percent for the single family then we get some three families that have to be what those things are like three thousand is where feet some of the threes are three so ten percent three hundred with so be free families are going to leave a separate category and to themselves because the three more f a are than you could have less right so the that means you have to almost put something like if you're if they are it's like point five it would be it would be ten percent if it's a point three process the intention here is to try to provide some relief for people for first of all for the planning board not to have to be the second zoning board in town dealing with relatively small issues that don't require the design sensibility that supposed to be coming from the playing board as opposed to the strict compliance legal and so on the idea is to try to transfer something s a lot more strict in some ways than the playing board has been because we've been trying to work with people  i thought of was that you could you could put a limit on above which square footage you would the percentage would be lower so you could determine that three thousand square feet or whatever you didn't you wouldn't want anything above that to be a twenty percent but below that twenty percent would be ok and then you know above that fifteen percent would be what's excuse no what i'm saying leaving a limit on you that way which then means that the the problematic ones which are you know whatever you just term it is problematic twenty six hundred twenty eight hundred or over three thousand over that you have a percentage that was lower and under that would be a percentage that was higher and then it would it would sort of balance along with others including jan cruz we were co sponsors of the general residence moratorium i had a couple of things i wanted to say first i want to apologize i missed the beginning so i thought i was in another meeting and i just want to clarify first we're is this a public hearing on this handout that we just got this really hasn't been clear just to be clear at the beginning of at the beginning of both the meeting in the at the beginning of this section i said that the text that was discussed in the last meeting ok and that you have a copy of is not the text that we have now ok that's i didn't hear that but i do want to read you what was in the newspaper because i want to be sure i understand the legality the complete text of the proposed sounding amendments is available for review at the office of community development and the town clerk's office which is what i got and you're saying  section one point five point four number two if i if i'm reading this having just received it five minutes ago this isn't going to the z v a s that light if the building what he does anyway it has to go before the planning board and it has to be reviewed under section six d which is what the performance standards are and so forth and so on that exist for single family to family homes the third more just to clear clarification question i may be the only one that's not clear but as a result of tonight's public hearing and i need to read this will there be another public hearing before something is probably will have another public hearing prior to tap yes and we will have another public hearing where when we have discussed the tax among ourselves and heard from the public then we will come forward with another text that you will be able to see and everybody will be able to see and we will have a public hearing about that which will only be this part of it because we have ok so because i have the microphone for one more m let me just throw this out to you for consideration because i i like what i what i see you eliminate in the sunset putting these decks and porches to the z b a great book why not consider going to town meeting with the general residents zoning as it is now and work on changes with a little more public vetting  will do the time stamp one first on the ok i thank you and if i may speak on the boards behalf also the board has received a significant amount of criticism because they're not doing planning for the past two years because they in one of the main reasons is because they've been stuck dealing with smaller outlook sponsor special permit applications and so the hope in their eyes this is an opportunity to because it does this is an opportunity for the board to consider do we as a board still want to deal with the small or don't we and if we eliminate the small stuff this will provide more time to do the planning that the count wants us to do so i may have spoken out of place here and i apologize but i felt that it was important to also make that to stress that that's what the purpose behind this is yes and we've been we've been criticized for as i said before having a heavy hand on techs and things like that but that's our process that's our process and that's what we're supposed to do we go through this yes please introduce yourself judith finally town meeting member precinct six just a general suggestion from perhaps to help all of us keep our blood pressure down there might be an idea to put on there's a draft document that sits in the town clerk's office something to the effect that this is a draft and everything that was behind what happened in terms of creating the changes in the general residence district were as a result of a number of stresses heavy stresses and development activity in that district i live in do other things so that's what we're trying to look at if we do it if we're sort of going back and forth and was that one of that we still try ok don't i don't know the answer but one of the issues i know like in my neighborhood is it's it was it's a very old part of town so most of the homes are like right up against the sidewalk so the only open space we have is in the backyard because they're also jammed very close together on the sides so i know that i do think it's a very wise decision to for some of these smaller  projects to move into the way but you know i did want to just point out that for some of the homes in the general residences strict actually the backyards is is just is an important issue it's not just on the sides because that is the only amount of any breathing room that we have so thirty percent on a  home like my my home is only twelve hundred square feet but it's on a forty five hundred square foot lot there are in my own block that i live on there are some lots that are only three thousand square feet or thirty five hundred if you put for a house on a lot like that if you added thirty percent it would take up a good chunk of the lot which so i don't know if even a percentage without actually taking the whole lot size into into consideration maybe there's something to consider with that too and it's again like mr pinkerton said it's because the houses are all over the map in the the lot sizes are two it's not as conforming is in a lot of the single residence districts well what will the other point though to keep in mind in terms of this is that what's happening so if it's it won't be thirty percent you know we'll post something that's much lower than that but if it's if it's if it has to go you know goes through it'll go through zoning zoning as of right will kick it out donner forty seven piece and road one question that i have been hearing all the back and forth about the percentage how does the two and a half story regulation intersects with the thirty percent because there are some one's doing a half story increase you know addition dharm or whatever and but it's within the two and a half story or the half story guidelines but then they want they're also maybe doing a little bit of expansion somewhere else how does that all come together this is i haven't the answer but let him give that you're  greater than thirty percent then it would go to the play so then if someone were doing a half story renovation and it was within the half story guidelines like doesn't exceed whatever the half story guidelines are does that like it's not sixty percent more than sixty percent of the area of the floor below etc the does that not if you're doing dormers but they don't go into the setback area then it's the same or it's all the same as it was before correct ok ok this is a perfect example of why we don't want to do wh we see although not all of them have cash we still see some interest other any of the comments from the audience thank you for the comments i think we need to work on this a bit i mean i don't think we've come to have we have we decided i mean i don't know what we want to do on this and have you got thoughts on the percentages i think thirty's too much i mean if you just take a look at the things i don't know if one is too much you know what's your guess i'm happy to read it for understand layman's understandability if you will like ok now to bring that to it i'm sure it's all accurate and i'm glad you said it that way because when i meet with applicants i tell because what about if we go the percentage as i'd like to understand where we hit sort of the sweet spot in the relationship between a lot size and the addition going to have a second floor you know yeah i don't think that's that's at least on a percent increase in that might do to you thank you i just have a request waverley terrorists their request is if you are having a small working group even with one member of the planning board could could you post that would be helpful thank you week after about we can pretty flexible yes it's just a question when do you anticipate don't mean to put pressure on you jeffrey but when the drawings will be on online we had hoped i mean mine in the board and the public that any public comments from question should be sent to both spencer and i do not send it to the planning board members they go through us and the comment is a public record and needs to be so filed accordingly terror commented on earlier about fourteen people and was that the public that this was being drafted around actually it was it's twelve process this is the same process that would the board in the town has gone through since i've been a member since i've been staff to the planning board it starts at a certain place and by the time you know the people at town meeting it's a different document t places a site nothing is final for the warrant until the board will take a final vote on it that's still probably at least a month away at this point i just want to be clear because i've been concerned that there's a sense that tell us about potential cases that are coming yes we've got potential cases and playing board projects coming in from  y powers that be in terms of eligibility and that was the group street project and there's some concern right now and we're also waiting on  resolution the status of payment for the new problems of fire station there's another significant chunk of money that's going to be required and it could conceivably argue we eat up the entire as well but the roof and tell me to approve funding to repair those since then the fire station two has developed a significant amount of we could see through the window wells and also now on the roof so the expectation had been that that some of those would be taken care of in the in the save at the same time as the great new fire station this is more serious and there's another million for so  selectman my understanding is that they had a good reception in terms of that and i have been meeting with with the with the chairs of the housing  move forward with that and come back to the the playing god in a little while thank you so now the issue is the when applications can meet licenses can be granted by state for retail marijuana use is so in order to protect the town we have to have a public hearing prior cable first we have to have public notice in the newspaper prior to the date so and so as a result of that public hearing has been scamming for more sex and i believe you have a rough draft by law and there are as i said it mentioned two public hearings one is to extend the existing moratorium to december thirty first twenty teams this would provide the town time to see what the implications of the state regulations are going to be which will feed opted to it's really too late to catch this cycle of the an law that the attorney general would approve so extending would allow time for the regulation to be digested by the kid by the state as a whole and therefore then the this town could let's just do it what are we waiting for because that certainly is a sentiment there also is a draft by law in front of you and it is basically based on the existing medical marijuana by law but for the fact that what it does is it establishes retail sales within the main commercial districts which are local business one district processing cultivation in testing and it would put those within basically what are considered sort of light industrial areas of town that being the local business to district which is the automotive area over here for the general business district which is where if you're familiar with the loading dock and there's an animal hospital back there that area  well it creates an overlay district and would  feet we actually did get a public comment on this already and the person suggested it should be one hundred fifty square feet and a hundred fifty feet instead of three hundred feet  for this used to occur whether it occurs or not is between prop private property owner in the business community but at least the town has said these areas are ok that would be the same thing for this is making sure that indeed by law that gets adopted is just being you know isn't being adopted her you know just to have it on the books but it is indeed a bottle of can be implemented somebody come knocking on the door there is indeed a location for that youths so as i said it's a rough draft sandy was very incredibly helpful there was a major  symposium if you would call it in worcester a couple weeks ago and the power point presentation is one hundred seventy pages long i couldn't believe it puts any of there were to get a copy of it forwarded to us and so some of the so anyway it's been really helpful to have that document so we can begin to sort of figure this all out so you can decide as a board that you want town meeting a question that has one because it's a good idea it's a question that has been certainly this whole idea this whole thing about you know when town voted in the state ballot question about legalizing retail marijuana did that even when somebody made the vote and said yes i support this were they understanding that that meant that that might be in their community or were they just saying in general it should be legalized and so there's a big cart protection going on about you know do we want in the community or not and here is a prime example of you know splitting the vote voting that they were voting to legalize it within the state but that didn't mean that we wanted to  there's a very rough draft i know you've heard and i don't so i like all i'm saying is it was just like i just caught a little typo central because i know it's a rough draft and there are others but this this one was gave me pause because if it says i'll be forward and see what the responses i mean i'm sort of up in the air either at this point i don't have a firm decision on that one way or the other because we're talking about we're talking about my concern is and i forces from the no i think it's just right that i mean the reality is a neighborhood is washington state schools free grocery yeah but at a certain point there's a certain point more make it more data doesn't help you know being around anything so that just the the the