are how do mr olson get to the location where he was injured and how was it hit and went from entering the premises along with his two fellow firefighters to where he was found at the bottom of the feet seven inches below described by his coworkers and we know from his coworkers that and was entering the where else along with them that he turned to his right to find the own light switch and the wall is near is next to the gateway by his testimony or at the very least the trier of fact could you could conclude that that testimony places him of the precipice because one must recall he's coming into the building literally in line with these two coworkers they are walking into this of someone coming to the area i don't believe it security person or emergency personnel entering the premises are the only reasons for security lighting the knowledge need for security lighting as a matter of safety so for example if you believe is in operation and mainlining should go out for some reason having adequate security lighting better serves a purpose another see the purpose in addition to providing lighting for security personnel so we know that security lighting is present in many many commercial property properties and it's not just for emergency personnel it's also for other people that may be in the premises and mainlining is for one reason or another not operational go a little beyond what we've talked about in the brief but there's actually a white wall that starts at ground level that proceeds out into nothingness so if you don't know your mind you could easily woken up and  firefighters and the point we make in our brief is no one is ever going to be able to say what happened unfortunately firefighter olsen his new number in the fall firefighters piece and  there were three people there and there were three people who were at the scene but it just isn't keeping the person fell has no memory of what happened and the two witnesses who were there did not see what happened to be able to come in and say i was there and this is what happened and this is not a situation where at the time the summary judgment motion playchess counsel came in under rule one ninety one said i need four time i think i have another witness would you please give me extra question i started to grab it a worm i think i did the engine or something along those lines to connect his presence with the gate but there just really is nothing here and that's why i believe it's nothing but speculation is as to what happened and that's what the a very different case on summary judgment but there is no evidence the gate was open and i think you can speculate all you want that it made a noise it didn't make a noise it closed i said it did it didn't close nobody knows what the position was when they all walked in and there just is simply no evidence at the time of what the position of the gate what's so i think the i believe that is the difference here there was no nobody condition you are trying to work against is something that requires a long morning so is it i suppose is it a pity yes you shut but there was writing here this is not the situation for example in this person i cases that used to come up with  i'm not aware of one the firefighters all testified that they were two to the left i believe it's officer peace who testifies to that but now there was there was actually the coke machine and whatever it is it could have turned if you does he call the words the argument that explains the fall as we set forth in our brief did he step onto the fence to try to think there was a light switch there did he stepped to the lack of sound itself in the rack and in this case with three firefighters in close proximity to each other in an otherwise occupied and other you know nothing's going on in there in that and i think that common sense tells us that's a place it's going to go there was no way of this if there was outside noise there was no evidence of anything like that nor was there any evidence that any of the three firefighters or problem they're hearing the group they were defect in the premises this case ha i believe at the very least really try are fair to conclude the sound should have been her by these three people in this dark or otherwise on occupied warehouse so i think that in when you consider warehouse because he can swear that with the it was