let me help focus your argument at least from my standpoint and the other judges may have questions too i am interested in two aspects of your client's case one is the problem with his account of being on and off the tour boat when the passport stamps don't seem to corroborate the fact that he was on then off and then on and the immigration judge to place quite a bit of weight on that and the other is on the other side there were these two declarations submitted as witnesses to the beating me had somewhat earlier in his life alternately those were received in evidence but the i j a never addresses those and those two documents would seem to corroborate a politically inspired or ethnically inspired a beating so if you could address at least when you're doing whatever your remarks are both of actually that he worked on the cruise ship and that most of the time he was required to stay on the cruise ship and continue to serve the people who were staying on there and in fact that's why he didn't have any stamps in his passport from the other countries that the ship had gone to with i think there were two exceptions one was the one time in greece because when they entered the ship he had to have a stamp on his passport to enter gre enter on to the ship and the other time was when he entered remain yeah because he didn't come from the ship he came from he came from the airport in that he flew from england and that's why he had the other staff in this passport the evidence is not absolutely clear as to when or how many other times he did actually get off the ship although he did say the few times that he got off  greece he got a visa for the first so when he first boarded the cruise ship out of rumania he did not get a departure and when i was staff at that point i do not believe he did and i don't the only the only  only roumanian stampede had on his passport was when he came back in by air i believe that that's true your honor yes or ideals and that being the case it would show that his passport obviously did not have a complete picture think if you go with the i just interpretation then he i he was physically in other countries and if he was in those other countries why didn't he then go apply for asylum after those countries or why didn't he go to deal less embassy in any of those countries which is exactly what the i j a was saying in his in his decision if he never left the ship and if he wasn't allowed to leave the ship because he was working then he had no opportunity to witnesses that were submitted who were there at the time that the beatings took place one of these people even talking to the hospital that he was unconscious the i j a did not deal with that he didn't deal with with any credibility issues with regard to most to the ninety three the ninety four the ninety five or the ninety eight beatings he only dealt with the with the issue of ninety nine and there he only dealt with it with regard to whether or not it took place because there was a potential inconsistency with regard to was he actually on the ship at that point or was he working as a bartender in in the in the sub in romania and yet if you look at mistress mills testimony that isn't inconsistent because he said that he was on the ship in april and may and then he was back in romania in june july and august and then he went back on to the ship well if he was beaten during the summer in armenia under all of his testimony he was in romania whether he in fact was back and forth on the ship or not during the summer there's no in sure other countries the key issue there was rather he was in fact in romania in july of one thousand nine hundred nine when he said he was beaten at least in one instance by police his testimony on employment history is including the proof he did he said it wasn't brought up until cross examination and somehow he was hiding the fact that he'd been on a cruise ship the reason i stress that your honor and thank you for correcting me is that in his direct examination his attorney asked him three times what employment he held in romania and he identified he worked as a part tender which occurred in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight and that he held our jobs for different people are doing things that just cutting wood his attorney asked him three times then on cross examination or the question of what was the work and remaining yes that's right that was that was a question and that because part of the issue too was i guess for persecution routes was he able to find gainful employment but nonetheless it's attorney pressed that question three times then on cross them anation the government attorney asked the question then he said he then his testimony went as follows he said it first that he worked april and may ninety nine the i know the cruise ship and he said maybe it was two months and then he said he returned to romania after a few months then he agreed with government counsel that the record indicated that he had been away from romania for six months he then said that he worked for a month on the cruise ship the first and then later but that in between which would include the relevant immigration judge was not required to disregard that information especially since mr ismail both could not explain the stamps and i submit dissembled regarding his actual location we believe that that in another itself was enough reason for the immigration judge to have doubts about the tread ability of the testimony the immigration judge was not required to overlook the discrepancies about the beating allegedly occurring in october bar and took him to a hospital and when the statements were first presented by mr smith's counsel the immigration judge put parties on notice he had a problem with them and government co admitted them into evidence it made them into evidence because government counsel relied on them to cross examine however he said early and he said later that it would go to the way he would get the documents we don't know what we gave him because he never nine when you got to corroborated beatings which are entirely consistent with his being beaten and persecuted because of the turkish incident which said that they don't because of other testimony mr it's not get documentary evidence and he did not heed the immigration and not rely upon documentary evidence for his opinion well that's that's troublesome because one of the problems we have and so many of these cases is that there's no corroborating evidence you just  not responded to the first finding that jack said for example about the beating in july one thousand nine hundred nine and that was that mr ismael testified at happened when he was working as a bartender in july ninety nine he served  know the so that's an incident where he he lacks credibility with as you say it could reasonably be interpreted one way or the other and under the standard does that compel us no it does not compel us but then we have two other beatings which are relatively close and consistent in time as you by your own statement documented by the record of independent people now we don't know who they are and documented we must submit the for the other reasons given by the immigration judge he doubted that that one thousand nine hundred ninety incident occurred at all therefore it was really irrelevant if mr ismail were able to produce a that reason that he directed specifically that that testimony which has been corroborated because he indicated he rejected it because of the other inconsistency is regarding the nine hundred ninety demand the decorations worst admitted into evidence and whether or not where have you argued that those who carry anyway you don't believe that but other than the fact that that we have discussed in our graves that mysteriousness testimony was credible and that the judge did not take into account all of the other testimony and the other incidents i don't think we specifically addressed the declaration themselves however the the i g is under a requirement to take all of the evidence into account and he didn't do that we i think we understand that you indicated that there was no entry wound that the only on board getting on board ship stamp was the one from greece and i