gusev the superintendent about how they went about how they're looking at revisioning their program and we came to the conclusion that likely the first step that we need to approach is a feasibility a comprehensive we understand what the areas that are in greatest need do we just wrap that into the complete revisioning of the high school in terms of its educationally so when you say  degree to the degree to say for example we find the there's an area that is its end of life yes that helps us in terms of making determination we want to go and redo that space for that particular area and it's a real it's a no brainer but if there is a space that isn't that is in good condition we're less likely to go moving things strong component that came out if we are going if we are going to go that second step of not just fixing things that are broken if we are going to move that second spot about making pretty significant educational adjustments we have a good handle on that how to approach another thing which we learned which was really quite interesting is the fact that they had a remodelling process done a few years ago say six years ago and they were able to get a waiver from the state plan calling for the remodeling and completion of the school that they're building now so i mean that's something that wasn't brought to our attention in the past so when we're looking at this if we're still looking at the same kind of eighty plus percentage return to us for the monies we spend that's why you know he said looking at the entire building see what its economic life is is maybe a good thing to do now so keep our fingers crossed that gault me the gymnasium high school gymnasium air conditioning issue before you a few months ago we had asked the architect an engineer to reassess the  installation individually of the main gymnasium and exhilarate gymnasium and do a refined more detailed proposal for budgetary reasons and this is the estimate they put forward the engineer from c j o as you can see that he broke it out into the gymnasium at four hundred forty three thousand dollars and the exhilarate gym at one hundred twenty nine thousand dollars for  both were to be done at a cost of five hundred seventy two thousand dollars total hasn't that been looked at previously as far as that architecture is concerned i thought that they were they looked at it a few years ago so i'm trying to figure out what this twenty three thousand dollars is for when i'm not certain ok that it may be in the  fall it is due to arrive here this week many front end preparations have been made for the wiring piping in controls should be installed this week in a few of down time and out of sequence control because of awaiting the arrival of the spoiler so hopefully we'll be able to report at next month's meeting that it's fully operational ok i have to admit that i have had a couple of programs in the studio for the last two weeks and that system seems to be working very well thank you yeah mr goat i have a question at the p t a meeting last week mrs public w something about an issue with i guess it must have been cooling because she said there were several rooms at the high school that were very very h don't fill your know but it was an irregularity there was a the programming that all the controls are not in place and i tried to use the term of changing new software with a new computer based system or a new program and the learning curve and some of the heartaches and griefs that we have to go through well because this sequence is driven by a d t c a direct digital control software program that is not all installed yet because of this boiler isn't there and we elected not to do that on the two existing borders because then everything would have had to been undone when this came in when a new boiler arrived and then reconfigured it so  there were a few incidents that the building heated out of control and in this time of year i want and add that in the morning you need a boiler to take the chill off of the of the building then you have to go to a free year mid morning and just  bring in outside air to cool the building in then around noon time you have to bring a chill or online so this time of year where the adult that change the temperature is forty degrees from morning from sunrise to sunset it's very difficult to control and we did have two incidents that we wish we could have could have avoided and that's just because it's not permanent yet you don't have a permanent fix ok that makes me feel better that it's nder the auxiliary gym the estimation for a twenty five ton condenser unit is thirty six thousand and twenty two ton up at the gymnasium is fifty six thousand with another fifteen tonne at thirty eight i'm just confused twenty five tonnes seems to be more than twenty two tonnes and i just i'm curious about that you know i think about that the difference in size price i mean twenty five tonnes is bigger than twenty two tonnes and it's more expensive  i don't have the answer to that dr hardy but you know i see i see there's two but if you look at the twenty two tonne condenser it's fifty six thousand and the twenty five ton condenser down below is only thirty eight or thirty six thousand twenty that's for that's for to fix that problem but maybe i should just stop it but sometimes when an odd unit of a size will drive the cost up higher where those aren't as many of those in had one proposal and i would defer to mr bell sick as to taking some guidance here that wasn't under state contract and we reached out to two other vendors and one did provide us with a through the states department of general services and the other one is through a purchase contract but it's more of a national contract it's something the district  participate in but currently we do not have an application and we could very well thought an application to to participate in that program as well but the top two prices or the two prices there were both voted through the state that and i will admit i know nothing about these vehicles and the use verses but the price of that compared to maybe something why would you need something like this at that price is there something less expensive that could do the same thing because it does look you know there are no like your pain well let me say this is  luxury we worked with the murphy family for our church and we've got a vehicle some of this if you look on the sheet there are several implements that go along with this and i will say this is no luxury this this vehicle is no this is no you know out of the park kind of it's it's very necessary has an enclosed cab and with all those implements that you can use in the murphy family's reputation also for their service is phenomenal we just took our tractor down there and had service and they just turn it around extremely quickly so there's there's more to it than just looking at picture right and so that's what i was asking as a board member i guess my question more directly than why does this vehicle bring you that you currently don't have the capability for it has also the capabilities of a hydro broom attached to the front of it so that we can save our concrete with you know utilizing a lot of salt on the sidewalks it will also be utilized for the pleasant valley field in the stadium operations to it's of its if it was a seasonal vehicle three or six months i would have not entertained as this will be all year all purpose is  one of these and maintain it for many many years here as well is a panacea of do it all there yeah i noticed that they actually have the sweeper in here i know last time we were talking about you might not consider that because of the eight thousand dollar cost but i see that they got that down significantly when you looked at the hydraulic package in the us and the sweeper yes and those were add on to stage two then you had to go to a stage three but once the package all formulated the cost drove drove down as as a complete package piece milling it it didn't really make sense and after our conversation and speaking with the murphy family said that this is the right direction to go for made not be readily available in that time frame but i would still accept it and bring it forward if we needed i know what's going to happen will be no snow this summer this winter once we purchased something like this person is that right now that's that'll be our insurance plan you know you have one early spring or are early we are early spring or late spring i should say snow and you have to brush that field with this piece of equipment you'll have access to the football field or the p v field if you need to brush the i understand it correctly well i don't know that this is will be useable on the artificial turf why not it's got that brush on it that rotate i think the tires will do damage you think you know the weight of the tires going across even though the well the saving of the concrete is the absolute most important because you but we do do the right thing by solving with safe salt on the sidewalks and we do use the rock salt for the parking lots that the township is generous to us and offers to us and these units are heated so the operators not freezing to death while he's trying to drive iran rushing through things to get it done because his fingers are crossed but yeah begins at the high school as a twenty four hour operation and we're out there at three four o'clock in the morning  along exterior hardware placement at the high school i had asked a few months ago to entertain replacement of some door hardware at the high school just due to some age in and  operation and trying to enhance that and i'm asking for an opportunity to purchase two sets of and i put some pictorials in there of what the center instead of the doors have rods and pinned at the top and bottom many of those removed when the when the upgrade to the exterior door program took place for five years ago so what we're asking to do is to bring the  say you run every new so currently there is a mall in there is it the weight room door which would be which we have a savings there actually i believe that i mean look at that proposal i think it's one thousand eight hundred dollars yes there are these doors there are not the front front doors coming in where you the main entrance you're saying this is the weight room door yes we refer to looking at the front facade of the high school to the very far left we refer to those set of entry doors as the weight room doors the center doors we refer to them as the pull entrance exit doors and then the obvious to the very right is the main entrance over the canopy the four of these doors would be one set of doors just one double d in place these new poll push operated operators over top of those and utilize that molly and they're now in the back side in a courtyard that is a card access door so that's a little more complicated we would have to put the mall in the center and it is as you can see from that pictorial it is removable and it's in it's in it also has its own special key and then we would also put the the the  panic bar release on those doors but there's one other kaviak that out there is that doors card access so that has to have a an electronic strike release so that drives the cost up a little that's a unique door to the  the nice thing about this miss anderson is the fact that whenever you do this these doors can then open up you can take these millions out and in fact get large items through there which in fact is something we don't have at this point so the different sections of the building can be operational two larger pieces of furniture and things i just didn't know like when you're talking about you know we call it the comprehensive feasibility study if they're not if there are evidence of failure now why would we do that now ok any questions about the exterior doors all right move right along mary school project renovation update yes we we have concluded phase two where it's in  the school which would have been the art room see all g i some of the music rooms in that section of the building and over the weekend friday night and saturday facility staff moved  the what we refer to as the hub rooms one of the one through one hundred five we moved those into swing space which is referred to as the shelf space and that is now being utilized and now the the hub area is under full demolition and construction the units are here where we're hoping to avoid any miscues or delays unfortunate we had last time  of the mcmurry elementary and then we would order don that it was whenever i was not in  to go there since you just don't get involved with bill and this is one of them you haven't learned that by no everybody looked around me on i don't know and then i said after discussion dr french it was determined that it was done during a period of time that i wasn't here but because i wasn't here i wasn't able to participate so anyhow and i'd like to see and some of the issues that we've had at the bar hill with the carpet and things i think you know if we had a number of the boards going with different colors and that people could actually select versus saying one tall for everything i'm not an all one tall fits all kind guy i like to have different colors throughout different places but if we could have something like this drawn up in the future whenever we have renovation or something i think that that would be beneficial so everybody could see including the community before it was done that in fact what kind same you know announcement without any board member could show up and we were the only two that showed up but we did get rid of its red light now but anyhow i just i just think it would be good so everybody could in fact see in the future whenever selection is picked that day you know that and not just one floor coloring not just one wall coloring not just what but there is you know something that we can we can turn to and say now that might be good in this building or that might be good in that building so  that's just for information only and the other questions about that all right now let's go down to the really interesting classroom furniture replacement this is coney and i have attempted to find any possible solution to the magnitude of the chairs and the furniture that are there are many generations of furniture school and we're in there but there's one chair that stands out that is the most problematic for the floor and we have a solution to that but it's not a long term solution and as we had spoken before  believe that the the possibility of remediating some of the furniture and new purchases of furniture that will fit the room the desk the floor and maybe something that we may have to entertain going forward why i think everybody needs to know one of the things that mario and found out whenever she was over there that the furniture that we had that has the long slides on the bottom of the chairs but it goes down it goes along the whole floor all apparently in the past the front the chairs didn't fit underneath the desk so somebody tried to bend them so they would fit instead of being straight because the edges to go down in the middle to blow up and so that's what's the pressures being put on those areas which are you know  farming no it doesn't seem to be it's the it's the the chairs that were you know i said it's like whenever they use the grove tables still now after eight hundred years i mean you know you didn't go there i  did but but the bottom line is somebody in their wisdom tried to bend that so they'd fit and those chairs are met the bend it's meant to be straight and so that has part of the problem like you said mr gold has cut the little slides that go on there so it won't damage to the flooring right now but that's not a long term solution because they were all so one of the things that has to happen on the good news of this we could potentially use that money to purchase the front a chair so it would should not be any significant additional over it is and we've already planned for just because of my nature we're not running into any issues and it's very projects been very well managed  that is one good thing one thing that we should consider that mr fish and i did go walk and every almost every classroom and look at the damage we do not want to damage the floors and ford and we may want to have different vendors furniture vendors come in and what will require that they give us you know a classroom set let us test drive some different models to see how it wears and then our teachers like our children like it and it works  well on the floors and perhaps start to phase this and so that we're not playing catch up damaging the new tiles are being paid i laugh at that only because when we were in charge valley they explained that those companies did that they brought richer in a couple classrooms and they had rollers on the chairs and the hard floors had the fast rollers so the kids of the slush in the room but that's then i apparently then you know they they do these companies do lend out equipment so you can test drive it and if we had had three or four companies do that and contrast test drive them i think that would be a big plus and would also save on some of the flooring yes and i made that inquiry to one vendor that we've made recent purchases from and she represents four different manufacturers of classroom furniture two of those she said will allow us to utilize a classroom so we're on the run rights start track  yeah don't forget ok next district administration office yes i don't want to mar many one but i wanted to topic that has that i've had an interest in since we've been on the roof quite a lot is that the roof or to d o a is holding ponding water and that water is due to there is there are some elevations that were not carried through to the rooftop drains and it's estimated anywhere from a thousand to attention two thousand gallons of water i have we've gone up and we've reviewed moved the stones that were there and we placed rubber we purchased rubber steppingstones the roof is under warranty in it's not leaking it but it's holding water it's not designed to hold water it's not a pond it's designed to move the water on a heavy down fall and move it into the roof scuppers i have not exhausted all of my ability to the as my understanding is there were no architectural drawings and design and details for this project but i have not it i have not finished all of the investigation i'd like to do with the installer who placed the roof on and see if i can have there's any recourse to bring him here and let him observe this but in the interim though i had made a contact as mr morrow asked me to look at their high school roof and get a real good bearing of what the the warranties and the composition in the life of the roof of  school and we did that in in that interim i made a contest in a relationship with an individual who offered to come in and look at this and would you see as his proposal to make a stopgap m remedy to move that water in the channel that into the lower roof and down the roof scupper the other option was to bring up a plumber in a roofer and to cut a hole in a roof and to put a roof top scupper opening in that body right there a pretty risky ordeal because we'd have to move all that water off pump it off open the roof membrane up involved in cut all that roof and install the plumbing and it would be right over the receptionist there is and my concern is that if there is that water ever does start to move it's going to move and it's going to move quickly you know will be in trouble you know when i just look at that that's between if you have a thousand to two thousand gallons that's between eight thousand and sixteen thousand palms sitting on the roof that's topped as you say and that roof lifetime even if it's under warranty if it's sitting in that condition i'm sure that voids the warranty because that's not the way the roof is it's supposed to move water and  dry out and be fine but with the mold analogy there i'm sure that that's eating away at that rubber so therefore the life of that is probably no questions at this point and it's compressing the instilling insulation and everything under that and that's taking life expectancy and we have an issue with the way it's a draining they should be out here they should be fixing it we should not even be talking about it here i mean i don't see any reason why this should even be here at the board when it's under warranty and i get i'm not trying to be brash about this but i i know we had a roof issue at the church and i got very upset with the guy because he came out three times and it just kept leaking well you've guaranteed it yes it's not my problem any longer it's yours and we've paid them to do this and so i would just encourage you to go all get them out here and simply tell them fix it it's that simple it's not that's the problem is it not that simple is that we pay legal counsel for that is that simple if there truly are no drawings in engineering  details it's going to make it much tougher but i won't say that it can't happen but that's a stated i would like to further some investigation and have some due diligence and take your counsel and try to move it forward  so was it in two thousand and ten yeah this oh it's your fault like their loss you think that they're lost or you're not sure whether there could be some drawings but you just haven't found them yet i know it's all conjecture and hearsay what i'm getting because i this piece are there two different issues is it the shape of the roof of the existing building and then something was laid on top of it so it's not their fault that the roof is not the right shape that it's not all that's one of that well it was in conjunction with this roof the roof was done at the murray and when you go look at the murray roof you can see the elevations and pitches in the center to the roof all perfectly deep told by design and it offer it works there's no lying water on that roof the same contractor to my understanding did that roof and did this route the same time yes so somewhere along the line there i did hear a process that recently monica was telling me about that they actually go up on a roof membrane like that and you know the spray foam that you keep things out they actually have that industrial and it just picks it up wherever you want it and it molds itself so that's another possible procedure but i never heard of that before but she has the roofer that i normally have do a lot of work and has been very successful on the roof leaks throughout the school district he didn't want to touch that he didn't want because obviously because of the warranty issue but also because the whole skin and membrane would have to be lifted and rielle of ated and then there's a lot of potential loss there in damages it's been couldn't be here but she did have a comment to make on the roof matter and she just wanted to make sure that we did not engage in any modifications before we exhausted the warranty issues because if we do it can be understandable in a few with that weeks ago three and a half inches of rain on a tuesday night into wednesday morning water penetrated the east side of the building here and in through the food service  department in department upon investigation of myself our carpenter and others because this was an old school one time or a lot of pipes and sanitary entrance that supports the scoreboard and that is where our problem lies so we're looking at lifting the scoreboard off of the side roof after the athletic season and then start putting some ice shield on there and try to remedy it beef for the winter months but it is my recommendation we take that roof off of there and take the flat roof off put a pitched roof on use the same post and iron structural  to build that and we can do that in house with our carpenter but that would mean a relocation of the scoreboard to some other vicinity along this side of the building so and department did have considerable damage is there anything like this spray stuff that we can use the block the water from going in there until you get it fixed tomorrow i have the ice shield in the carpenter and we're going to get up there we can purchase that also in addition to but he looked at it and when we were up there and that was our best first first attempt to rid ourselves of that water because it will be coming back in the form of ice and that that has nothing to do with the water ponding up other entrance is here that have water problems is there no ok mr bowman asked me that question and i don't know if there was or not but i want to ask you know our rear our front and the sideman door entrance there are no no last item is i want to make a recommendation and asked to look at replacing one of our maintenance vehicles going forward into the winter for spring months our fleet  condition we've touched it back together again and will be able to salvage another year but it's a critical truck to replace because it also a plow snow at the and we want to keep that in in the inventory this winter but come spring time we're asking for the replacement of one of the vehicles when we had our meeting the other day you had mentioned a used truck for about thirty five thousand new and i'm thirty five fifty  they obviously are be a factory and then you can buy next year warranty program for an additional two years  i look at those vehicles there with a plowing snow and the usage they get the relatively low low miles they get i thought that a potential used vehicle was an option if it's not in the best interest on making extra money they beat him up pretty bad and by the time they turn him in they're not in the best of shape that's one of the reasons they turn him in early so that they can get some some cost of it so that's when my only concern is we're going to possibly getting somebody else's troubles and wear a new truck for a few thousand dollars more that would last for fifteen years or something might be the better route to go if we just not buy a new truck was it last year two years two years two years utilize tolls and ladders and the type of equipment that he needs to for his tasking here out of a dump truck it's very difficult and i am looking at reassigning the other questions dealing with maintenance of our facilities or vehicles we're looking to purchase or anything else a question of if the board would like to take a tour or make mary to see the  because i think you know in our just with us trying to be as financially responsible as we can i want to just the second i on the front a chair i do know that we need to do something to stop it from damaging the floors and we want whatever we can repurpose  of the chairs i did i would just be nice this for us to take a little walk through over there and look i'm supportive we can use our contingency fund in there but some of the desks do seem to have some additional maggie cameron one twenty nine from in line will the construction be affected by a potential strike if that happens actually i would believe that that would in the fact that it all could we accelerate it would be the question probably not because you would never know it's already scheduled and yeah  the other comments see i run the fast ship around here that's pretty sweet forty minutes yes we're going to having executive meeting after this