freezes so on the room you know temporarily i can always put something off to protect it but there was a quite a quite a build up of ice on that unit now months ago you were not i when we were talking about moving getting the other one up off the ground you had said we should cover this thing that ever happened over there not to my  so i'll go take a look at it when i leave but something that if snow or rain is getting on that we want to build some kind of should cover for yes thank you along with a copy of our budget request for coming here and then you just a few interesting facts and figures that i thought you might might be interested in on the transports that we take out of each of those things and then the participation in our subscription program from each of the towns so the  populations are estimates it is in both jericho west for sure what we cover because we don't cover all of jericho and cover all west for so it's the portions of the town that we think we cover but it wonder hill that are overwhelmingly supporting essex rescue with the subscription programme is it and so it is it's very close i think with you know between the population and participation transport so that was that was all but that top would show them the essex select board head asked us to look at you know what are other towns with similar private not for profit ambulance coverage pain or ambulance service and so i just ran around the state looked ambulance service went back to the state records look up the populations of those towns and you can see both what the total dollar subsidies were as well as the populations and then are similar sharda lot is probably considerably higher than that house sample yeah i mean there's a few places that are that are kind of in that in that league randolph sort of a funny deal the whatever reason they they've lost all their volunteers their whole career paid operation brush and they cover a number of other towns that are very sparsely populated as well randolph with forty eight hundred people is the population center in the area that they they call so there they're a fairly pricey operation but you know back to the discussion we had last year i think from budget in perspective we're still looking at trying to get all the towns that we cover together on a common per capita subsidy rate allaround twenty nineteen you know year twenty nineteen and that per capita subsidy rate would be three dollars and he's seven cents or something like seventy seventy eight little under four bucks and we we think we're still on budgetary track to be able to do that and i think you know hopefully that information is of some is cursed when you start to say ok well what apples to apples in another community for what's what's the cost we continue to think that we are a year as a follow up after after i visited with you and you were interested in a little bit of analysis on me the farm calls which i set last year interesting i went back and looked did you know how many we do in clients that we transport out of maple leaf form have some sort of insurance increasingly that the insurance the most common providers medicaid and that is our  payer insurance it doesn't pay as much as private it doesn't pay as much as medicare and so the answer is yes we're getting paid the percentage of cases that we get paid something on is actually going up away what's happening up there day they've changed their client service delivery model they cut way back on clinical service they don't have as many nurses p a's up there at night they get back to nursing assistant i think on during the daytime they have less clinical staff there requiring that all clients did get it mid it up there had been medically sui before they are allowed to be to be admitted but i think the reality is even though they've been medically screen lot of those people are pretty still pretty unstable they you know they're going through withdrawals they've got you know propriety of chronic clinical problems besides just whatever their substance abuse was so that whenever they get into any sort of trouble or hit that they might be in trouble i think maple leaf is pretty fast to pull the trigger and get them out of there that they don't they don't want to be sitting around with somebody gets in trouble up here so they call us so volume bug goes up you know it's the same number of beds it's the same utilization i think up there i don't know that they're you know mission days changed very much but you can see in two years it's one hundred percent increase from the line calls that were about one you know a little bit of a little bit of what we do you know we're going to do this year i think to day my my crews out right now i think the they're running called one thousand eight hundred seventy six  year right now so we're going to go over one thousand nine hundred runs this year which is up a little bit from eight hundred thirty five we did last year kind of typical annual growth or us so but you know nothing really very dramatic i think you know this is kind of fine tuning on what we did what we did last year or order of magnitude it's about the you know about the  same you know little bit of increase in our payroll personnel costs yet always thing we had a pretty good year last year on our insurance revenue and we're we're thinking  up a little bit we estimated our insurance revenue this year will also go along go up by a little bit so we're you know overall operationally i think we're in good shape we're covering thousand dollars on subscriptions so that that program's off to a great great start forests this year but anyway i just wanted you to see that and then the the last thing i had to show you early may did only ma one copy of this but it just if you're interested we we just ordered our next ambulance so if you're interested in this scene what two hundred thousand bucks buys you for a vehicle we day there it is  this is we went through a fairly exhaustive process to narrow down some on hires that might build this vehicle for us we got down to two finalists put out a bid specs for them to bid on the the two suppliers came in and they were about twenty thousand dollars apart rather significant price difference we went through the offerings that they made you know one vendor took exceptions to a couple of specs and either they couldn't provide it or you know offered alternatives we got this thing down as close as we could apples and apples had a bolt give us another price and amazingly the two companies that did it and we were in final negotiations with came out of about five hundred exactly the same price so we decided to go with this company broad we've had a very very successful design and layout of our vehicles we carry the same equipment careful thinking we we put for the first time and and we'll do this with the chandila as we buy it now or we put heated and cooled medication compartments  about yeah there's it seems to be neuroprotective for the brain and so they want us to be participating in the cooling i mean you do that by giving them  fairly high volume of cold by the fluid is the way you can cool down so you've got a way to carry cold fluid all the time in the ambulance to really be able to do it so this will be our first vehicle that has that just even something as simple as a warm blanket which is you know very comforting the patients so we put we put it on both heated and cooled compartment which say neither of our other vehicles have we made a few other few other design changes we mounted the air conditioning condensor on the outside of this vehicle in an effort to try and cut down on some boys on the interior made a few  this one's got enough zine changes to the box that we decided one we really needed a new box b the other the other issue we've got that  led us in this case to say we're going to get a new box and we will probably get a new box the next two times are were we have a corrosion problems with the ones that we all now the three that we all now are all built by the same company and i've had two of them have been repeated twice our newest one has only been repainted one time but we've already got more corrosion problems on our oldest one that there were get rid of so no worries we're cautiously optimistic some new design changes different manufacturer we're going with this time that we might be able to remap this vehicle march the price difference on a remailer versus a new one was not as big as you would pay the dog on chassis they're pretty expensive on these things with the diesel engine there go through refurbish new floor repaint it all new door hinges and gaskets you know bring the thing up to sort of current modern spec was maybe seventy eighty thousand something like that so be a hundred forty two hundred fifty thousand or remodel versus maybe two hundred thousand and it's it you know we get the savings was higher i think we look at that harder  it is one of their standard configurations we we filled a little bit with the interior compartment like this he did in crude compartment it's an option but they offer it's interesting you look at these vehicles they you know why they sell sort of different sizes of the boxes kind of the kind of you know e and then you know what you want to on it which lighting package do you want on it that's all customers back then you know some of the some of the other interior design features you want to smoke right we have measures budget negative data we have not yet put next year's budget together so i wondered where the next year's budget the two hundred grand fits so yeah so  we have this is our operating budget ok and at the end of the year we take any additional revenue over expenses and it goes into our capital reserve fund and and when we buy a vehicle old or another major piece of capital equipment we buy it out of the capital reserve fund it does not show on our operating budget i'm sorry i didn't bring this last year i did a big budget oh yeah yeah we can not only can we afford this ambulance but the we if the world was in perfect harmony and alignment which it is not on our nine year life span we live course be buying an ambulance every three years the problem is we're going to buy three ambulances in about five years and how it's going to work so we've got we got enough money today and we're you know we we expect to be able to put about seventy five thousand away this year and sold it although we keep putting money in but i think we projected out that between replacing our three imbalances we're going to be looking over the next couple years and starting to replace our cardiac monitors for all those are about thirty thousand apiece we're got our  transporting paramedic car sport utility vehicle you know what that will end up being thirty five forty thousand dollars something for that we can look ahead and see that we've got to get items that we're going to bring our worked right now it's kind of a stress because what they're doing is they're letting us take perry shopman the one guy who's left also medium we can we can take him to  drive that leaves nobody in the station out there which is one of their goals they don't want to get down to zero staffing during the day so when we have an emergency call it frequently leaves him there it messes u little bit operationally because when we had we had to we employees out there we would take second calls back in essex so our essex based truck goes out on a call we get a second call in the day time we would take that ambulance from underhill and respond back in asx or for the second call we don't do that with harry we don't want to pull the last guy out of underhill for an explore all so we end up having to have whoever we have staffed out in underhill that moment brings the ambulance down a wall either i go to the scene and b or we you know soft old scramble around to find another driver to meet them and put those people together suck and of has presented us with a few a few operational challenges but you know we're we're local along until we do we get another person in their place job description for the position one of the things that i think happened you know i had really very little to do with us but i i think they sure i last guy on the hard last guy with a misunderstanding about what the job was i think that the employee you got hired believing he would get hired as a firefighter and the reality of that job is you're not really the firefighter there you are the preparedness guy there you are the guy to make sure that you know there's gas and chainsaws and that they all star and everything works on the trucks and th stuff is all packed neatly the air packs are all filled ready to go the real job is the maintenance piece of it down there and then you know everyone thought a while ok i get an emergency call and you might go out the door you know as  a firefighter on a primary crew but but the real job day in and day out is making sure that that place is ready to go and get out and so i suggested to the chiefs and  think they got it i said i think part of what was wrong last guy was he thought he was a firefighter you know and i think what you ought to do is hire somebody give it a different title for underhill jerricho this person is a preparedness technician you know i call it something else and the firefighting you might get to do is sort of a not all i see on the cake if you like to do that stuff on the ambulance side you are part of a two person crew you are going to be the driver on you know on the ambulance crew and so we get out the door a lot more urgency call than they do our volume is just much higher than theirs is and so i somebody with a different set of x make patients you might have been you know so much more successful so they they took that very much to heart and it was interesting they didn't give me any pushback on it but i mean that observation as i said dan said that exactly right so why don't you write up that another suggestion i made to them because this is how we've done it the last few times hired somebody i said hire somebody you know let's get somebody the company it can do the job you know go pick the guy you want and say we want to hire you to fire department rant for housing a vehicle and staff in the day so what's that what's that money you are handing us about five thousand dollars a year which we turned around and he and the underhill jerricho far apart for five thousand dollars a year and in reality i don't i don't think we cost them very much to be there in the station and you know so just revenue or so to those guys but i don't think it i don't think it lowered i don't think we increased their expense by five years is probably the reality but it sure shields five thousand often their bottom line and put in our bottom line just for full disclosure so you do follow up thank you we thank you happy holidays and again i appreciate you get off there was other other things about the direction of the ongoing project their policy project the hardware is up there still another week's worth of electrician some i think that on the roof sort of opened sort of open the weather will open up a window where they can get on the roof they also have a fallback plan exhausting out the gable end as opposed to the roof but that will be our subcontractor will come in and do that installation but the way the loud noises are happening and look like i was up there earlier today and some of the snow it's the ice is setting off how accounting is done quite frankly i have a long talk with ramona but i think we have thirteen thousand dollars over thirty thousand dollars bill and somehow someway all the work should be covered with the exception of maybe the nine hundred dollars for the electrician and that was always been the agreement i think it was at least two meetings where i said well by the lights you guys paid you have an electrician up there now get it done you know ultimately the capital cost of that equipment is not going to come out in my mind nature budget it's going to come out of  you're on budgeted i understand it seems to be right on schedule so we'll just have to talk to her again see i'm so again i just don't know you know if you got thirteen thousand coming in how you funnel two thousand or three thousand to nate's budget you know but a guess would be considered revenue on his side you know you know that's what i don't understand you know what the rules are and i and ramona's are professional and i respect her opinion  just that we've had a couple of meetings about this and no one raised a red flag about the ins and outs of of how the money works you know so i just naturally assumed that until the people who've expressed some interest but they are also hoping that the weather that could break listen get up there monday and see the site as opposed to the snow and ice so whether we get  in one day a chance why don't my humble opinion is that we're not moving forward with quotes as high i mean i was thinking that i was going to be the same price ranges are beach road which was similar to the other site but they get it at the time they're out there they're looking at snow and ice and what are they what can they determine about bedrock not much so they can't maybe they build in some ok we're going to do these these tests these number twelve on page t everything else in town i don't know the answer well i'm confused because six but there's a new contract these are all over the bottom two these are all tell contract cases against me believe would be a contract in the contractor new contract from a police if you look at all their personals that's going up and water well over a billion dollars i think the state if i remember correctly states change the rules for appraisal and the answer is the answer is the fire department and maple leaf were local agreement and they were actually there was actually identified in june and set and corrected before the july tax those went out the other two are the small reduction in the amount of what that is is garcons the three undeveloped pieces were valued at one thirty eight and then that one piece the two answers i got were local agreement and that it was it won't change anything because they caught that one prior to prior to put it in the tax  have the whole thing you're talking a whole lot of money yeah i think we left that as a we needed to have further conversations with the d m v they've even with the planning commissions but sometimes i do have an answer to the earlier question that i was on about what's on the agenda i think it's the december tenth station house second emotion all favor  oh i have one thing that i called you last friday and what i meant to say is do we have a letter from the county saying exactly what we're supposed to do for that guardrail on a hard by harvey road not 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