all answers to the to the more specific questions are there there is a there was a question above the sound level issue that we change bush's shrubbery you know what the way i would rather i feel more comfortable leaving it out in the landscape comes before us anyway have packages we can suggested and eve day says i would feel more comfortable and i think that's very minimum shadetree matter how six feet in height there needs to be a set back of the arctic twelve inches i think if you look at the picture try try to imagine that this railing is hitting the corner of the house if you go to seven feet twelve was a pretty good compromise you know i'd love to see the twelve ends up at the window i don't see seven feet here probably i could see maybe six by a couple feet more maybe betting on i don't see it being wider than six feet i could see it me be ending up a few feet longer maybe thirteen or fourteen feet i don't see i don't see fifteen but i would have to see you  i'll tell you one thing i don't i don't really believe that what he has existing there as i've said previously i don't think that there's anything for the area that house a matter of fact i think it's a mistake so i would love to have the opportunity to fix the mistake i just don't see your solution as being the right solution at seven by fifteen or your original seven by nineteen and i guess what i'm saying is maybe in relation to that window are six by twelve   the amount of open space and i think you can withdraw and come down with other plans but i would i would take what barbara has said and think i just want before we we got into this because we were in the middle of the of the year before that just a reminder to everybody that these are hearings for special permits so in these cases  and that is necessarily less efficient than if we could all meet separately and and formulate a unified front and plan for a long still we want to make a decision and i to be submitted to community development at least a week before the meeting and the process is for example if you are if you are hearing  me i think the house is that i want my house and with my neighborhood i i think it's i think it's i think if you're actually enhancing the neighborhood but again my big issue is that you really should have just constructing a square so you have an opportunity to set off at that two two and a half story center section but by pushing the garage out to make it flush i think it's a very awkward line i think it's actually going to be more awkward than it shows in this drawing because the roof the roof overhang or the garage is going to project further down the overhang on the porch and i think that in terms of fitting in with the neighborhood design i mean you have a you have to have cross cable and the two storey section but you wipe that out by pushing a garage that i think it would be much more over i don't see why you're making one different than the other to make a few of my question  to the existing lines so that if you're building up over a garage pushing the garage forward to the front of the house or even beyond that has never been allowed in fact the house next door sixteen this is is not exactly the same design at all it has the addition starting at the front of the existing garage which is several feet back from the front of the house what that does and has done in all of the cases in the you've got a rather wide mask on much wider than the older houses in the neighborhood so as amassing issue that's that's where i would hope that the planning board would have a look at the precedent set by past decisions of the zoning board in identical cases i know we're under a new regime and i don't want to you know i'd would not want to see you know offended by working wherever we're in a new era now but i would like to keep that precedent because i see some concern here about changing the rules a bit so the people between the two there's a really simple example just around the corner from the south three sergeant where there's a pretty straight on addition to the soft one up over its screen porch and what happened was they had to bring the edges of the building in and lower the roof line just enough to allow a visual distinction between the addition and core of the house that if you open the door it's a garbage room and behind it is that along to you so he doesn't have a car to car we're living in massachusetts six months it's cold and i want to come out i want to be freezing and that's the reason why i extended  there's a certain truth in that  space we've tried to design a snow way that would have no negative impact on the neighborhood maintaining character of the streetscape we are proposing to raise the this set back from the top of the dormer ridge from the main roof ridge which is in keeping with traditional dormer design it would also give us just a little bit of extra wiggle room for the head height at the top of the new attic stairs just to make sure we get the six eight at the top where it passes under the reconstructed  side also add that we're not adding the max allowable square foot zoning would allow us in terms of the five foot potential five foot head height where almost one hundred square feet below what zoning would allow in terms of that we can add sixty percent of the second floor area we've got thirteen hundred seventy square feet were proposing seven hundred twenty three and max allowed bills eight hundred thirty i six that the existing master bedroom on the second floor is still labeled as a bedroom on the proposed plans and as robbie said we have two professionals who work from home so this would be an office space so in addition to the existing bedroom and second floor that we've been maintaining as a bedroom in the proposed third floor or half story we would have the new master what we're calling a nursery which isn't really a bedroom  it's got low ceilings to gabled roof it's not it wouldn't function well as a as a bedroom for adults and then we've got an open player area which is open and not a better so that's for the second floor unit so that seven the seven also includes the first floor so what or so the seven includes two in the first floor correct and then two two on the second still has on the second class a closet so even if you took off the playroom which is open space on the third floor the study in the second floor is a closet so there are seven in another form their investment to get the most out of their savings and we're definitely open to design suggestions from the board i think the structure of the of the stairs pretty much sets this as a there are several people here who have come to speak on this and while we will we can use this discussion i would really like to give the leaders who come and wish to speak on this chance to speak so they generations the neighborhood was built after the first world war and almost all of my neighbors had gotten their hertz's by heritage from their parents who had been back  change and what's happened here is there's been several parties there have been purchased by people not to understand what is investment properties or is in come properties maybe but definitely is investment properties you can go down the street and see the difference between owner occupied properties and other terror known properties and is this board is as opposed to after town yeah anyone can buy hartley but i think we want to order to maintain a good neighborhood and make owning these two families in the general residence district in my neighborhood that attractive to people who like my neighbor want to stay for the long live there and stay for the long term and the fact of the matter is that in nineteen twenty give or take people have much less much lower expectations of living here than we do now and so if we want to attract young families to come into our neighborhood two family home because that's what they can afford and stay there we have to allow projects similar to this one so that's a consideration that i just want to bring to the fore