on five feet away from here we all know what it looks like it looks much nice to with the lots of green buildings that is a significantly large building that has been sitting in an occupied for sixteen years and so that's kind of the big market conditions that are going into this a little bit more about what we call we were full he put it better that is that actually going to be the name of the organization that is behind the property fantastics challenging slush interesting green changes on the property you have ever walked around there and so we're trying to because of the flood plain because the flood thing takes the develop it's a better so that's the arbitrary line there's a line here which on the next line is actually the fema flood line square box but this is what we have to do to develop at this point that is why we present something like this it starts to get beautiful you can see that there's a kind of i wish we had the bigger versions you can see that where there's a tree in lights and you can see the park and underneath you  see really some of the cool character of the vision but this these are required for us to do all my and purposes so you know at this point we're in the up looking to go all of the zoning  there's different takes of interest and there's buildings it's the fourth floor just because you start to see that or the fourth billet you start to see that view again and open up and there's wonderful grief if you think again to destiny so the next i would really show because i know that there is a huge amount of discussion about density and there's the so i could understand if there was going to kind of come into walmart back there there's is very low one point seven healthy marketplace is three to five percent you know again i i went to check to see your rental properties today and there's one of our aunts and it was i actually had to work hard to is fifteen units and if we can hit thirty percent senior housing in that mix we can get up to twenty four eyes for but actually and i'll come back to my second point the however so i said ok let's play with this let's figure  potential got it priority and they tend it's a commercial break they want to make sure that there's a healthy mix of residential commercial but it doesn't that fall through the unit calculation doesn't really kind of long list of a that and it that the whole concept was how do we how do we help communities with economically and process five make it a more viable way to develop downtown areas because there's tons of areas in  nal different usage remember it was forecasting into the future so and what would be required based on the current minix is two hundred twenty four thousand square feet  rying to really simplify the concept of this two hundred twenty four spaces required for this amount of square footage of commercial with thirty three residential units the thirty the square footage there was a lot of buildings we actually had another twenty five thousand for the one place it was too cramped and even on this one we had a lot more green space and it wasn't meeting even the thirty percent reduction that if it was ended up being forty units or she's thirty three which is shown it's seven more units there's are probably one or two bedroom units i think the parking conceptually doesn't match it seems like it should be based on bedrooms not here to their homes or residence one of the comments that sort of part there we don't want to do that that is why we put in a parking areas here it is very designated for both residential commercial retail but having a one way through here and then to wait in here could here there's been a lot of discussion about people wanting to come again out really quickly go to the library and come eat here totally fair point so how do we slow that we looked at other options of different ways around and here's few options but we're revising to discuss thinking in implementing and planning and i think the other thing this one is that it is a multi year of all the process that we make start with one thing and then say in the end of year when it's all developed that's what we would that that's my job to try to make it happen now what does that have to do with us like why we're sitting here is that we've got to make sure that this is a commercially viable community for us to make sure that it's the right thing that we're all holding hands and jumping into the pond of you know of this exploration together and so for us there's a series of discussions that need to go on for that now that it's not a development plan and we're not going to be breaking ground until next year so i'm not going to have any side architectural layout it's already proposals for tenants or anything like that but it's about making sure that this is a viable option both for us the town individuals with the truck and to kind of have that feeling of that discussion so backing out of that so this week i'm hoping that we get a final time when tomorrow about when the thirty day comment period is up and frankly i think it's going to be quite a boring read but anyone is welcome to read it i read a few times and i sleep well it means but it'll tell you hollow two that we're going to plan to remediate this oil based on the e p a guidelines this is us right now meeting you guys than we've got to talk about remediation permits is a really fun common topic and then the idea would be in the midst of mid september when we're coming out of the thirty day comment period we really understand is this a viable opportunity  a developer to take some board you know what we want to do is make sure that we all collectively are seeing my own stuff so that we can press that go by that we can work with the current owner to make sure that it is a viable option work with and we suggested as soon as possible there's a comment community to be as transparent as possible with what you're thinking and why you're asking for so you did get it together and very thorough because far as you can right now so either we shape coming in doing that today and what we want to do is have people and what they wanted was to have people respectfully comment and ask questions based on obviously not a full development plan but what you heard today the concept so to sixty forty sixty forty residential sixty commercial and however that breaks down and that's what i was trying to clarify that the current plan that shows thirty three units is based on one percent and that that that's all this is we've never had that we never had to build an overflow parking lot at least now that the shaw's parking lot currently i don't remember if that was could be over parking we have to go out and resort of a walk to do it right it evolves all the time when you take an engineers plan and they just plop it all down and you don't go you know really marry everything to the site properly that takes mental lucian what we talked about this afternoon was you know what this is if there is any traffic flow at all and you hear there's a concept maybe actually gets cut off like use and can you limit the access down through here via the small little far gate for this is just completely blocked off with landscaping the only way to access the senior center is through the two hundred twenty four which is that this is the person calculation this is the building numbers and then this is like what they were if it was office retail because this was  square footage and then these were the guidelines per thousand square feet that's the hundred and seventy three spaces and then there's the senior center sixty you can see just discussion that as we get into it that this i don't know if there's a setback for the parking or why that's there but this potentially or if you're saying is too full now that we grant you know say that we can come understand this this can be cut off and it doesn't need to be made it just so everybody knows it was if the town said no don't put all the traffic out here then we're saying well we'll be open to going this way if you want but we don't need it i town which i'm completely on board with that doesn't make sense to the town it doesn't make sense for the kids but in terms of these things having a good result that you might think you know this isn't realistic goes look at this and wow i wonder if this actually could change the entrance here and really have put more parking in between here and here for town change the exit or change the exit down here below the living and kind of energy and vibrancy throughout the day and night that it keeps it from being feeling like a bedroom community they only come and go at night versus like living there working there i could see a lot of actually depending if the concept and the tenants get married that people will live in the development and potentially work in the little area and feed the economics of town and still not change the face of town at all and it would decrease the traffic flow to it i think if you had more commercial you know i know it would be just in terms of the square footage the number of people that were in that space just could support you know ten twenty people working that's only three spaces per thousand square feet of commercial which is higher percentage than residential but if this was a thousand square foot space it really would only be two one bedroom apartment so the less impact on town for the square footage but i think more vibrancy because if it was two one bedrooms or two two bedrooms there's four people and their friends when they come walk down town or a small family you know single moms struggle of the city and there was a dilapidated old brewery with specificity and work in our neighborhood the developer wanted to come in and work with the city to clean up and turn it into a vibrant that was not really part of the our neighborhood and to suddenly strip bars and and you know who you're breaking up for a totally different marriage and i think the key is about talking collaborating and making sure it's an interesting discussion and all we've got because i been sitting for fifteen years and part of the town vision was that we would develop that we have a limited commercial zoned area that can be developed and that was one of our charges and now we have a developer this interest and he's there coming to us to share their vision and so it's our time now men talk about it but i think there's a lot hanging on timing when they decide to move forward or not so that's where we're at today  well below one hundred thousand dollars to do it because of all the build it would have been accessible on the roof wouldn't be collapsed and so just conceptualize it and look at it as a builder mine when i go through twenty four units could actually be it's not a sixty forty minutes there is a percentage of mix and so there's somewhat confusing on how it's written it's you know it's not easy to read these things and probably one i'm sorry if this was twenty four units the percentage could still be the same it actually could be sixty forty commercial residential with twenty four units and how that would be if that twenty four units isn't described in the interim zone as the square footage so the sixty forty if this is seventy something thousand square feet seventy thousand square feet if it's so i think that maybe that's a description just sort of body understands what that it's such a it's such a finite point to me on the development side because it can or because it's actually written as twenty four the twenty four units could suck up thirty five at least on the proposal of seventy thousand square feet which fell environmentally right it the flow of the topography dictates you know where the park is they develop a whole land is only rape their women the pointer is and so could this building like i said become one more one hundred percent residential but i think one of the buildings themselves could be one hundred percent right eventually now that could change because economically it's a lot less expensive to build one building with residential with bathrooms that staff everything is more efficient so that makes it be able to be more affordable built to be open more money into making it to be zero building but it's a it's a good question i don't know how to protect it beyond that  i've been chatting with about who's a big rail town concept he's got a lot of a lot of time and i'm going to the state and trying to develop real town concepts and i haven't shown i've shown him the plan in these like well we may need to work on th if it was twenty four units and they were three thousand feet per unit and we made this bigger so it was be seventy five thousand feet of course it has to be fifty or less residential concept if this is the plan and the residential is sixty forty then you can only get so much reza well i'm here and it works for a number of units because sixty four at the square footage this use of the land and makes commercial what works believe me it's way better to have a lot more buildings and make it way more dense economically and even to have a bunch of little to say then it's like if you said this is our plan and this is this is the plan period and this is one of the proposals seventy five thousand square feet one way or another actually that's another way to say you could say what is the total square footage that you're going to build here and is it going to be spread out over the many buildings then you then you could conceptually say ok well we know we've got one building near grid six buildings then you know no matter what you could only get so many residential units in a sixty forty percent if you just did the shins so i'm thinking from a from a zone signs up yet but i think we as a town in partnership as we move forward might be to help a little bit with where if people are coming in town to go to our restaurants and stores where they had to park there are some he says that people don't know that they can park when they're coming into our town that open to the public and people can participate in the meeting from the public they just won't get to vote on the recommendation i'm worried that it could lead to some unsavory development you know i think if the intent of the interim was to attract a developer and that the developer now is coming in asking work with us now i don't know what we're going to side in there but i think you know i'm in itself is to work to get something or timelines right i feel like that's what you know but this we help this to a different standard this was an exception that's why we did the interim after fifteen plus purview of the town so there were concerns about maybe an instant response of infrastructure of the mobile home park there is a specific concern that it's not clear to me how many instances or incidents have occurred on finding used these are ridges or needles at the playground and things like that so we had a specific list and one of the things that it seemed clear to me  and be clear about what the town with deal with and what the town could not deal with there are a couple of public health sort of issues like use needles and so that's a question of whether we think it's worth home parks where there really is state regulation and oversight more than we're city oversleep so we might actually try to bring somebody in and create the link between the residence and the state regulators  k with the potential for two or three worlds further up the hill that also has access to class four road to the world essentially but at some point they can get permission to what we can sack of plates when the numbers do come in because i think we should be ready to say we're not going to do this in the rebel plan or in the evening when it's you know who knows how long