even really really tired remember whether i was arrested in mistreated in jail and that's exactly my point your honor you would know and you wouldn't a twenty year old iraqi who is having different kinds of translation  says if you look at the testimony throughout your very carefully and you go through it she testified consistently that she was interrogated over not the problem was that the government attorney and the judge in question wanted her to use the specific word raff or detention and she kept saying over and over again i was interrogated and after being pressured for a while by the b have but whether it's you or your father that you would know i don't i don't follow your question circle sometimes it reads like your father was the one that was getting a rrested or detained or mistreated or whatever it was find the past security people and sometimes it reads like it was her i began i don't i are you saying that a separate incident that was a separate and you know the airport interview right that's correct ok and in that they say would you be harmed if you return to the government might harm me because i have left you know through the file ok then she has the she says my father was seriously hurt and almost died in an accident that's just simply referring to the accident and then she was just in the car turned over to the cops that rented ok so that relates to her but there's no reference in that to her through the lawyer deals with the legal and the things that the lawyer has no personal knowledge of what happened in iraq i totally agree with you your honor i don't believe though that your characterization is correct or that that she was not telling the truth what was happening was she was not telling all the same things at different times in to it and i think it's important that's exactly different stories about the horrible things that happened but it's horrible things happen you'd expect the same story and then i read the police report and he says in the police report the cops arrested me peacefully but they beat me up in the car and then i interview in my office and he says they arrested me peacefully in the car  her and the car was peaceful but they beat me up later in jail and then he testifies i wasn't taught anybody the whole thing actually they beat me at each of those hives that person would not be credible i totally agree with you next not in my mind that's not what happened here you're talking about telling change stories this year talk about telling that the same set of scenario differently once again i'm thinking it is what happened here there are several b different one leaves out maybe maybe part of the question is what were the questions that were being asked to which she was responding if you're telling us that there was a reason for giving the first marshal responses that's a different time  printed it's a printed question and it's done it's done in detention and and in many cases as i do a lot of these in many cases the answers are very perfunctory depending on how overworked the writing what sad and i believe paraphrasing plays on these questions again she's twenty years old that may seem old for a woman in our society this is a woman never been away from home that just got there is in detention and and she also indicated she had an arabic interpreter although i don't think the cause the problem there was one of ing interpret ing words but i don't know whether there was some confusion there as well she indicated that the interpreter was arabic but but not iraqi and i think the best example of that is that i recently went to ireland and they speak english too but there were times when i couldn't understand a word that was being said and it happens here not that i can point to any particular words but i do think that it's unreasonable to expect a twenty year old who has lived at home who is scared to death to go in and answer questions as if she's prepared for foreigners battle she didn't come here  you know which is obviously going to implicate possibly implicate him in some crime i'm going to harm your family you're not going to see him again she she remedies that situation shortly thereafter  that there is a it's not a situation where she says the sky's the sky was dark and later says this guy was like it's that she tells depending on the question different parts of what if you end up being the trying to indicate that maybe she wasn't asked a specific question have you or any member of your family ever been treated or threatened by anyone in any country to which you may be returned it seems that she was asked that question or come form that question because she talked about her have you or a member of the family ever been mistreated and so on so she talked about her family being catholic ok my father was seriously hurt and died in an accident that was prelude to the what happened to her so it's not you know words that's the setting the scene in which she then says that she was arrested and detained by the iraqi police about that incident so it's not clear that she was talking about her father necessarily it was my brother and i were told by other muslims and so on so she's she's relating this all to her stuff so i think it's a little tough to but she was pretty honest and they got very frustrated on the record as to what she was being asked to say if she was confronted with that and she at least my reading the transcript and right of the cold transcript seem genuinely frustrated that she all you know you we've just look at where she said in the credible fear interview of the circumstances and when she understood in the hearing what was being asked didn't come up with a new story she now just told about it i think that attorney i'm sorry that immigrations as decision was not solely based on this one aspect it was also based on the fact that in her credible fear interview and in fact credible fear interview it indicates that you found masterson told her you should no i've never been arrested any time any place to me it looked like it was part of a series of questions about her fellow medicines that and smuggling to see if there's anything wrong with her and what she's doing is likely to questionnaire at a job and it asks you are all these things wrong with you when you check the no boxes on all of them that's the way that what to what i had trouble with was and maybe it's there and you can point me to the correct page i'm looking for the lawyers to use words that don't involve technicalities like did the police ever take you away where did they put does it take you to the police station do they make you get in their car does a quick unionist self did they put you in jail anything the limits and understand without having any idea of what legal meaning there might be down without detention are arrests i do not remember either listening to the thought the question was whether the father was arrested and had to be corrected by counsel that the question was whether she was arrested so i suppose if the idea had been the witness and it answered the question that he thought he heard he would have come up with an incorrect answer right in other words people don't hear things exactly correctly so have to make too much of the understand well your honor i just like to point out that when there's appeared to be discrepancies in the testimony or anything the immigration judge took pains to say you know i'm i have to give an opportunity to trying to explain that and he did that  our language they arrested me they kept interrogating me you know our language arrest almost all the night they were interrogating me ok and then the i j a says i still don't understand your answer you're kept overnight and you were interrogated and then starts asking the questions of the police station station which under her definition that was an iraq