annually to make adjustments for unexpected expenditures prior to accepting konitz mr sylvester he will make a brief explanation of the proposed amendments to the budget council will act that are available but we're not we're not really increasing it that much we've basically the increase in expenditures are about probably about one hundred  well as i guess the approval of the minutes from the regular council meeting of september twenty third two thousand and thirteen and i would propose we act on those jointly unless anyone consul would like to vote on them individually  ok audience comments were at the point where anyone in the audience is permitted to come up and speak to a not agenda item for no more than five minutes  some hands going up so i saw your heated first first state your name where you live my name is paul slezak three zero eight wanna drive i just have one brief question heard through a few reliable sources this is regarding whispering pines connection to her non connection to woodlands my understanding through these sources that you planned on putting the road through on phase two of the whispering pines development is that  wide right of way to just about it was never in the original access but to put a street from my view laying down is very very steep we went over there with planning commission at the twenty commission meeting him they saw and understood the situation but it would've been a possibility to do that but it would have created  it was noted on the plan that the time that it was going to be if you for forty fourth street at that point in time the right of ways required by the township were forty feet and so this whole property was laid out with that contemplation in mind that this right away would up on the township map as a known street it's called garner away so it's been in existence since one thousand nine hundred sixty seven and that's how it's been used and the decision of the township at the time was that the garage was three quarters ways done and they said that if in fact the road was approved and taken over by the township but the township at that time if you can as a right to order the garage removal should interfere with the construction of the street storm drainage or utilities and so this is been something that's been discussed and been only on the agenda since one nine hundred sixty seven so it's really nothing new except i'm asking for the subdivision of the one minor traffic that would certainly be going to you know a forty foot right away or just about the road itself is it's not even forty feet wide you know it's barely thirty feet wide so forty foot right away is more than adequate for the traffic it goes up and down no more than four longs be created which happily is currently the property whose technical compliance with the wardens because they have one hundred feet of frontage on a township street for public street by subdividing off restrictions at the ballot what would happen if they came in and wanted to develop what it had to come back here anyway they were have to come in for subsidies yes and conquer our current regulations that would so if it's not as written now it may be an undue hardship because he might not get approval from the other property owners they may not sell it to him or they may just let him be unable to develop the land because he needs their approval in order to make it a fifty foot right away and that's why they put the conditions on there that he could divide up to four lots without having to go back and try to purchase said in order to make the fifty foot right away his property that's nice meant and seven in order to get the fifty foot you would have to purchase the property on either side assuming that somebody would sell him that property or using it again standpoint d the historical significance he just brought forward typically what happens if the township doesn't take it in and says just an anova now only way and up to twenty one years it'll just revert to the adjoining property owners in the property subject to any a record have the ability to expand even or the owners of the property or the people who gave you the easement if the township says go ahead and build four homes they've created a situation where they may give you building permits but we can assure those people that going there are a way out of their property it again that's it that's a question of your of your insurer but the issue is this before the plan in the planning commission was requiring him to expand the fifty foot ok on the site he cannot do that because he doesn't own the land that would be an und hardship to make him try to buy the land and so they said we're not going to require you to do that you can keep the forty foot and you can divide it up there subdivided up to forty lots because we don't think that's an issue because there won't be enough there won't be more than enough traffic going up and down the road the neighbors were told about the development there were no objections from the neighbors so that's why they approved it the way they did by saying to have it up before last if it gets bigger you have to come back to us and get approval and the confusion forth a township at least we're going to open this road it never did so becomes an open road way and it becomes typically up to twenty one years no one's quite a title to it's i suspect it is sitting there but you have permission under your deed which the township hasn't seen for about a month or two ago i was in here but i assume that they had similar concerns about traffic increasing and put it in there almost to me again not being there or treating it as a woman that they had some control over the roadway and i think maybe from your historical one perspective that they did but the township doesn't have any ownership of the runway and you saw access is through somebodies election to give you access by way of d i'm not sure this board can expand them allowing you to  and they're basing the fact that it's a fly by these loans forty foot easement that they have that's not the case they don't own that property it's not flyable they i don't disagree you have the right to get there and the is ever improved or taken a right township the town has the right to order the garage for moved should interfere with construction the street storm yes so the time but they're in there actually giving permission with regard to something so if the town you didn't have any issue with then and didn't have any that's essentially what we want and i don't think i don't have a huge problem with that is that your property you're using the home and you know and that's good i just have a problem with saying we're going to give permission today to for further subdivision of that property to be actually just over something that you don't own and we don't know what the current with the situation would be at the time that you know the new subdivision might occur there might be different on the and other property and we understand and just to step back out i guess as to where we got and why we're here the the first thing the planning commission recommended and why we were at the hearing it was they had stated no further subdivision of lot one child care without the attainment of land to meet and then one fifty  feet away with sept if you take that out and saying that they did have authority to do that in the first place because you would have to come back here and get permission then i don't know if there would be an issue the issue was that they were preventing they were already saying we're going to prevent you from subdividing until condition period and you say we're not going to we're not going to say anything with regards to the forty foot he's not required to do that at this time and then if he said divide it in the future it will depend what you're saying not on what township says it's on with the in just just in my room reading this over a nationally i had some reservations and now just put in your presentation i have additional concerns not to do it so we have the ability to in part when they go to the planning commission or who are they go to for if they said look you're you're this property is is what it is right now it does not have access on a public street however if you want to develop a they get for one are very reluctant and i know it to but i don't find what you want to do today to be objectionable counselor as we have a public hearing on this matter on september sixteenth there were some minor changes to give were also advertised based on contacted here e and council directions and we're not only adding seismic testing we're also modifying our existing mineral extraction ordinance to comply with commonwealth court decision that says that we cannot impose standards that the d p or other environmental organizations have control of in our big original mineral extraction ordinance we were requiring compression stations and processing plants to use  sixty five thousand one hundred twenty nine dollars and seventy cents by law are required within sixty days to distribute it to the pension plans the distribution is in part based on contractual requirements as well as ensuring that it's most efficiently spent the impacted the number for the labors is what we've actually already spent so we're just reimbursing that and then the difference is put into the  boys pension plan so we're recommending approval of the resolution and move we resolution can zero one thirteen where the motion is sacking this or any further discussion seventy seven percent seventy seven ballots back so we did have a majority of the property owners respond and a majority of the good it did go in favor of the policy the plan was to  this staff to work but we have to sub out work on it and we get speed bumps and i just think it's ridiculous and i've been do you know other communities and i don't see anything a were remotely like this and i think we know how to change the policy have somebody revamped or look at the posse or whatever but you know we're going to be the township of speed humps and you know  you can't relate everything and that's my two cents worth but any of that i concur with mister simple compliance you just read me the resident maintaining reasonable spee heller's telling you is that once the once the decision by the assessment board has been done given that local rule it's going to be a mad dash to see who can get to the big we appeal to court first but we don't appeal all of these cases and i don't think that that's necessarily in our interest do defer to peacock to appeal every case that comes out of of the  possible coffee shop in a small retail space they feel it's very important for them to have an additional morning miss on the place here in this part of our discussions with this new development here's the existing non see the make them come back or stop them in their track because they're not going to build with the township look down in approved and i don't know after various whether they ever came back for cycling approval and if it came back before this board or just started t resolution to this to see if they can build what was approved by the township so that was just as of late last week were what it was mr sabre's application in and of itself he decided to make a major modification to cycling and he could go forward are coming back can we can we put a time limit on this time and we give them like two weeks to resolve it or we go back to the original plan in america happened not that we should do anything let them fight it out kind of an injunction against the the activity closer for some people i'm not sure the board needs to really take any action anyway i think it just brought your attention where this is if it is an important issue it's going to fall really over here or it or over there in terms of whether seventy eight started in high school young sure and i believe just based on my being on council and my knowledge my head you know a thousand times but you know what it was about ten years ago i walked in the back of bill's pickup truck and there is a larry it's like made out of wire ro you know it's just a perfect circle it's not that thing that we drive with a clothesline where the flicker you know