pension board also just ignored the decision or the report of dr monaco dr monaco was retained by the city of wilmington a person not a party to these proceedings but one of the city retain in response to that the pension board says nothing they say well it's there you know on the part find it yourself yes i thought that's why we were here to find out if the pension board's decision was or was not supported in this way of the evidence yes to the statements by the pension board which again i think are critical to their decision that the reports from their chosen physicians dr albert and dr anderson ok soley on my client's subjective complaints that the orders on ludicrous this is not some and all the medical evidence is more mall and my client just complains he hurts to death of returning to work this is a police officer who broke through his biceps tendon we had one surgery to put the tendon day together and then had no less than three additional surgeries to repair damage to the nerves in the that are as a result of the injury and the surgeries my clients are as physically different and it was of normal anatomy inside my clients are these are not subjective symptom i buy it has very specific findings there were m r i eyes done before the surgery there worth of electrical testing a record that consists of thousands of pages and hours of testimony is a six page report from packers deal which is incomplete on its face it misses things in the medical records it doesn't contain all of the treatment to me that's also astounding police officers a fire for them represents several police unions round the state officers get injured all the time restraining people assisting citizens videos and dr albert dr anderson reviewed pose and commented on those videos and said there's nothing in the surveillance video that would indicate that officer ashmore is anything other than disabled and it's important to point out are the doctors  you how do you talk about that is it just being administrative or the internet sounds to me that sounds like your guy sitting behind the desk i would venture to say ninety five percent of the time the officer is not a gate chasing down  in this case we're with another where we have a soft tissue injuries that don't really show up that might be present but it's hard to find any objective basis for and take out who does their supposed shoot i'm tired of military service their job administrated because ninety nine percent of the time here may not be at risk or have to do anything it's important are they and there are permanent deficits in his left shoulder and you know i don't want that guy pulling somebody out of a car and having the guy that he pulls out are take his weapon away from because he can't physically he'll lie and he would have had lied before he stopped being a police officer by zero point states you're not a police officer to begin with you cannot last that their pension and he carefully you know you do the part of it which included protection of life and property prevention and suppression of crime apprehension of criminal offenders regulation and particular are in the best position to make that determination because they have police officers on there are the ones that are experienced with this and i want to break it down for ok i want to ask you about doctors based on my experience i would have to agree that the police officers are largely i agree also that at certain times they're beyond pale as far as response based on sometimes watching the witness testifying and risen is the way in which they speak way they look out the windows of the book in question or whatever the case may be the body language the case of  dr anderson did multiple objective tests that indicated nerve damage and also found a lack of motion and strength in the elbow dr minus to use the i need doctor  from radial nerve falls and from compression of a a very specific damage to a very specific nerve in the officer's arm that has very specific loss of motion was a sprain resulting so this is anything but the subject of only