there's there's five proposals and the purpose of this meeting it is a public meeting but we have to be we have to be reversed chairs no public but we do have to be very careful the things that we talk about because there there are confidential matters within this the discussion of each of the offers i think it's ok if we're going to discuss individuals or say something on or more of us only know confidential nature that shouldn't happen in this meeting that will be taken on a potential executive session so we can try to keep it so that i would appreciate it and we can go if i can align these up alphabetically to go through each one to make sure everybody's on the same notes on this one of the things that i know if i thought overall it was a little they one of the things that i did notice in here is that they had the energy involvement in what possible but they didn't have it in the maybe they didn't get the whole scope of everything that was to be done and you know i'm not one to block it being low price but there's this low price and to me price that they provide it just seemed to me that we are not going to get much in the way service when you be executive session in general but i think we get down to when we want to talk about individuals within here and what our feeling is about a certain person and i think that's when we need to get into an executive session and eric down say this isn't going send this to everybody to just so somethings that she thought could help us and we may want to consider as we look at these individual you are at the submissions to travel at least keep them in line so we're i but i'm just going to throw this out there for everybody right now i'm not excited about what we perceive i don't know if there's another district and say gee this is the person would like to recruit to apply even if they go for this job and i certainly don't think it should be exclusive or you just target people don't have to have thirty five thousand but it was a pretty high there's a nice story that there was a lot of stuff we could do it when i compared all of these i didn't look at the cost of advertising and travel and reimbursement because we're going to pay that anyway it's going to be what it's going to be the trouble can be a very well i'm trying to travel for the candidates coming in not necessarily they're sending track because one of the other ones were to look at later it was a big travel fee because there consultants were coming in from out of state around  t in conversations with them regarding the responses and i did although of course as i was beginning to say it really good to finish but i'm not really jumping for joy bought a lot of them but then of course we can make them what we need them to be too like everybody has already said they don't have to be we don't have to of every portion of every thing that they have priced out so we can work with that but on this h y a which was one of the one of the ones that i was that i liked what i saw better than the other ones and sue smith said that she is very familiar with the school districts that were on here and she said a lot of these districts and all the places that she has led them to live in a lot of different places are top top school districts and she just wanted to share that everybody since she will be here tonight that's one thing that she noticed in a choice now of course you know it's national and we can talk about all overwhelmed with just anybody in particular because there's just bits and pieces to every one that just makes you wonder if this is the one you want to you know the absolute best want but there's a lot of variables  them i really like they're really like the proposal i didn't think the cost was too out of whack and i liked it that one of the main people lives here in pittsburgh was actually a superintendent in council being an assistant superintendent pennsylvania would understand the qualifications but you're right my biggest drawback of this proposal was it their experience over the past five years or something have one pennsylvania school district now maybe that's something if we decide to move forward if we like everything else other than that and it doesn't mean that week if we if the board find something that they like that we can't ask them yeah yeah i know you know that doesn't mean we can ask them  do have an opportunity to go back to some of these companies and renegotiate some things that we think we don't have to look at the proposal and accept that  well when i look at just p s p a and i like course p s p a lot they're great people but i feel that what they're offering us we have right here around this table pretty much so why would we personal feeling is that it's it's tough to spend this money just can't get yourself around that but i i think i think we should work on something that's going to meet our needs more and go back to conversations if we have a top to like david mentioned that maybe we could start to zero in on having our needs met and start negotiating some price lines and sometime around the four month mark so put us around april almost all of them were sort of thinking that somebody was a little shorter but it was one of the ones they didn't necessarily like and i think that goes along with what we discussed too that we you know by the time we been i think that was a good point that you made if we can get down to a couple and start to tick off what we think we can handle here or resource another way in a more reasonable expense in some cases maybe we you know doesn't have to be we don't have to we could we could look at both of these and start to term and see what they both bring grow bring back to us and then make a decision we don't have to make a decision just one  is everybody on th we need to do that yet to get what we need to do for free i think my son is going to bring them in because i think when you hear you know it's one thing to hear about services on paper or read about them it's something that you with stakeholders in my mind you're down to let's say we're down to two candidates why would that person want to come and meet with people who don't necessarily have to their identification you think that's a good idea and i also make sure as david mentioned in the beginning of this that the school board is really the one with the responsibility for make sure that we pick the candidate that we feel is best for the job given the input we do get the begetting from all these groups just not that that's the circling around of that bringing the candidates back to these groups as if it were an interview process is the right thing to do so that's why and i think in the ground w criteria and a person comes in and then for lack of a better term they're namor and all of a sudden they're focusing on that candidate and they may or may not meet the criteria that's been established so a good consultant will help to and i think bringing them in and i think listening to what they say how they go about what their approaches will stimulate one of questions for us and that will help  pennsylvania representative yes so i would hope they would have it and knowledge of that but i also remember what tom said we want to make sure that we make it clear to them we want to talk to the people that we will be