morning council member don couch aloha good morning jeff good morning world's horrible dispute ended look what happened afterwards when bitter enemies got together and collaborated recognized and understood their differences and made their respective countries a far better place to live a thriving economy healthier and for the most part happier people all of this because of collaboration and understanding that we have differences we embrace those differences and continue to work together to improve our community now he's in the midst of different sides butting heads with each other calling each other names not working together let's learn from the not too distant past to work together acknowledge our differences but work towards a common ground making maui county a better place to live in play for the most part we do that here on the floor let's move that spirit of club of collaboration out of these chambers and into the broader community i call on all sides to get together find the common ground recognize our differences use those differences to think outside the box and come up with as many win win situations as we can after all to quote judith billings a washington state superintendent of schools children are the priority changes the reality collaboration is the strategy district office staff individuals who wish to offer testimony in the chamber please sign up at the desk located in the eighth floor lobby just outside the chamber door testimony at all locations is limited to the items listed on today's agenda pursuant to the rules of the council each  may be allowed to testify for up to three minutes when testifying please state your name in the name of any organization you represent mr chair we have been notified from the district offices that currently there are no testifiers out there we have four individuals who have signed up to testify in the council chamber the first person to testify in the chamber is john colson testifying on bill seventy six mr colson will be followed by russell adkins good morning label john call son in the executive director of key a charter school and i thank you for the opportunity this morning to speak on behalf of the five hundred seventy five students and families of teachers are there asking your support of bill seventy six i spent the last forty years in education mostly on the big island most notably a kamehameha schools in hawaii preparatory cowdery where i was a serve for twenty five years and w for twelve in two thousand and fourteen i received a call that there was an opening it key a charter school when i took a look at the opening i realized that this is where i needed to be because keith charter school does things differently and so i left the big island after all those years to come to maui here with the so hopefully being my last position and what i found was a school that  on twenty first century skills most notably communication problem solving self direction civic engagement and so much more were project based or were students develop projects that they present to the public or faculty or current state say directed through with professional development we just finished three days with a buck institute which is the leading provider of services through project based learning and in reality we are we are where the state wants to be and we do it to deal we hopes to do in the future the last time i was with you was when sedona stonewall was named student of the year in two thousand and fifteen like you to recall just how powerful sedona was and how confident she was as a key a charter school student she graduated this past year as a member of the class of two thousand and sixteen and she along with her classmates earned over five hundred college credits molly collets during your high school tenure they're off to colleges now across the country including joy talks about how fast the world is changing the twentieth ok it talks about fossil world is changing and there's three bullets that i think are important and one as we're preparing students for jobs that don't exist today they will be using technologies that don't exist today and they'll be solving problems that we don't even know are problems and so the point is teach r s school believes that we are preparing the kids the next person to testify is russell adkins testifying on bills seventy four seventy five and seventy six he'll be followed by jim smith everyone my name is  brewery and south and will soon have a brewpub in the my research and technology park we are one of the if not the largest of always larger manufacturers and exporters we export beard to eighteen and soon to be twenty states in nine countries currently employ forty five employees that are key here location and we're currently planning on expanding the beurre in order to increase our capacity from sixty thousand barrels one hundred thousand barrels per year a barrel of beers thirty one gallons just for reference in order to allow for the future expansion effectively and efficiently plan for the future expansion with absolute certainty we aren't in a going to expanding the bird may be a lever which will result in a higher in an additional ten to fifteen employees and increased production by over sixty six percent this expansion cannot take place until the new or n t ordinance is passed additionally we are committed to self sustainability and are working towards beginning becoming one hundred percent off grid by the first quarter of two thousand and eighteen via photovoltaic expansion and battery storage or to allow this plan to be viable we need the ordinance to pass in order to allow for effective and efficient solution of carports and on ngs so that we can add additional p v to the life in the building that sorry maxed out the system that we're intending on installing is one worth of power and we'll have three hours worth of storage by passing the ordinance here allowing our manufacturing base in the same crease capacity and therefore increase our exports this results in bringing in funds from outside of hawaii and from our county and th economy rather than depleting it you're also supporting why its goals are becoming one hundred percent energy efficient ultimately our standpoint is by is supporting us we believe that you're supporting the local economy job growth as well as alternative energy and for those reasons we respectfully urge that you pass the ordinance today as is without adding any further conditions additional conditions will require drafting a new unilateral agreement which will further delay the project we thank you very much for your time thank you mr atkins members the need for clarification they renewed this morning was declared the next person to testify is jim smith testifying on resolution sixteen dash ninety six and sixteen dash ninety seven as well as bill seventy four and seventy five mr smith will be followed by jordan hart one of the important things to recognize is that our charter provides for a separation of equal ok equal and that means this council government what you're doing with this by changing three point eight point one is you're taking a citizen's charter commission out of the game because this by inserting except as provided in the charter puts your power the same as their ok and if your powers is same as there has been their power is diminished and you're taking from the citizens the ability to put a new charter forward and you're giving them your own gloriousness your own a wonderful power that today you want to take and approve because it feels good but it isn't good if your problem is a director or a mayor it's solvable if you take the word a out of managing director in our existing charter it's solved that's all we have a managing director it says he does this and that with the budget all right it also says this in aid so he can sit on his hands already can do something and that seems as though the managing director has sat on his pants so we changed the charter because of that to give yourselves more power more than the executive please recommit please recommitted to to the committee so that at least you can give it time they wanted to change the structure because that felt good it did the right thing by not doing it but you're doing the wrong thing if you think aside changing of your own power to increase it doesn't restructure our government and we don't want it restructured so i i don't want the stuff i don't speak for anyone but myself but please please take this back as what you're doing we can't do that you get too much power if you do that thank you that my first serious pretty the second one has to do with this hard to say what it is you have a master plan that you want to replace land use owning whips and you think it's a wonderful thing and they come to you and tell you how much money they're making but you're destroying the wide local community plan because you're a limb an aging citizen advisory committees from setting boundaries and giving it to a development group master plan ok that makes no sense there's no there's no notice with the office of environmental quality on traffic on drainage on sewage none of that for you to consider whether or not to change zoning or whether or not to change a community plan  that incidentally is being created as respect to chill have to do it at the same time it makes no no no sense in our current structure of government now you have a school bravo next to a brewery bravo next to a gonna be cafes probably a bar it's so wonderful they've got the property they're going to do this but you know we have a state statute that says when you put a school next to a brewery you got to do some things with your liquor commission you just can't let that happen because there's a red flag well you've got to look at it because you're us it's got to be in the public interest it's got to be good for everyone because the equal power means equal people and you're eliminating that when you do this wonderful form of zoning which is really breaking the law  breaking relevant regulatory agency law so that you can give the development people that flexibility to make money and you don't hold them to any standards for the people around and you don't listen to anyone like jim smith because they take too much time and you need to get this done now and the phasing is amazing on this one is the housing you know you're going to have five hundred people there now going into it already employed seven hundred students going in and coming out without the house where is that traffic mitigation that you must know to approve this bill to do the right thing to know what's going on before you give to these people this wonderful vision that a money maker so i ask you this is really for that back to committee both of those bills are filed men who wait for them to come forward to you forms zoning breaks  over yet don't embrace that in a chamber where public interest and making the law is a name of the game please i'm voting give it some power thank you very much thank you mr smith is that conclude your testimony yes they are members of the v a for clarification thank you very much for bringing your passion once again in testify is jordan hart testifying on bills seventy four seventy five and seventy six following mr hart will take testimony from the district office thank you mr chair for the opportunity to speak my name is jordan use planner with chris harding partners and i'm here to speak on behalf of the my research in technology park i would like to add just a few comments to the prior testimony the first thing i'd like to bring up is that the liquor commission does review and approve all liquor applications as well as liquor application to renewals and so i think that any kind of conflict of use is in the context of consumption of alcohol is going to be addressed on a case by case basis by that body the other thing i would like to just clearly state is that form based code is not breaking the law certainly if it's going to be reviewed and adopted by this body the other thing i want to begin to focus on is that at first reading there was a series of questions that were asked and there was conversation on those items but there wasn't really an opportunity for the project to focus on how those items that were brought up had been addressed in the environmental impact statement that was prepared by the project before the review and decision by the state lines commission by the review of the my planning commission and then the review of use committee so some of the things that were brought up was a timing of infrastructure and how that would be implemented for the project the state lands commission decision order includes a time frame for the installation of backbone infrastructure and that must be completed by tw twenty eight and so that basically requires that all infrastructure for the project within the bounds of the project or completed by that time there was a discussion on whether or not drainage and flooding was being properly accommodated and i would like to bring up that there is a comprehensive drainage mitigation strategy for the project that incorporates significant green space that goes throughout the project site and it's including a low impact of element standards which are a forward thinking method of development that the department of public works strongly supports another thing that was brought up was whether or not traffic accommodations significantly regional traffic combinations were being addressed the projects traffic impact assessment report does include a series of recommendations by our track projects traffic  engineers the state lands commission decision in order requires that the project enter into a memorandum of agreement with the state department of transportation prior to the first subdivision approval and what that would establish is that the recommendations that are provided the recommendations that are being made by our traffic engineer and any others that may be required by the state department transportation are agreed to and executed in the document its record against the property for the completion of the those in spain for structure  pieces another issue that was brought up was affordable housing with the development of residential units this project triggers a requirement for three hundred thirteen residential workforce housing units as per the current ordinance those units are required to be provided concurrently with market redevelopment the council land use commission committee also included a condition for one hundred rental units which is going to be included in the project the final issue is compliance with community plan the project includes a community plan amendment for the specific purpose of establishing compliance with this proposed project and the key mechanic community plan thank you thank you very much mr hurd members no need for clarification of his testimony see none thank you for being here this morning thank you district office please introduce your first that's the fire taken morning care why members of the council i'm very grateful i could testify this morning from all a kayak we have our team over here at the molokai business conference and doing a grass workshop so thank you very much for  have this office overhead terry testify remotely i'm testifying today on behalf of bill seventy four seventy five seventy six the maui research and technology park office of economic development is very much in favor of this project going forward with no further evasions we believe and command all the partners of the project of all the amazing amount of due diligence they have done all the work they have done of applying they have done and going through all the proper channels are the proper agencies we are very supportive of this because as you know and i'm sure have been told that the tech park of hundred ninety s is not the same model today and as you know we never did fulfill the complete build out of our tech park it has been underutilized there have been some great successes in there but it has been underutilized and the way that the young next generation worker wants to work is they want they want to have this live were shot situations where it's more of a village and the chamber is genies testifying on bills seventy four seventy five and seventy six she will be followed by morning chair and committee members council members i'm sorry i'm jeannie skulk i'm president and c e o of the mali economic development board which by the way was one of the creators of the mali research and technology park and i'm testifying on bill seventy four seventy five and seventy six the money aren t park has been rooted in the vision of a prosperous and dynamic future for our families and our children a future filled with possibilities of new kinds of businesses start ups and living wage jobs it would give our residents and our children the choice to work and live on maui the choice to stay on or return to maui all that effort to create a fast track place for innovation was and continues to be fueled by collective community action to prepare our residents with the skills to embrace those opportunities as employees or entrepreneurs fast forward this is all happened the businesses the workforce our children finding fulfilled fulfilling jobs at home it's been a thirty four year journey to hear that thirty four years since the park was conceived have thought us many lessons the fruits of those hard won lessons are continued are contained in the bills you have before you the master plan update is a result of years of research and extensive scrutiny by the state and the council's land use committee it provides a closely regulated framework for development that responds to what companies and entrepreneurs are looking for today and affords t community the best chance to continue the vibrancy of the park i experience firsthand the many challenges that come with building in the park we tackled the met multiple layers of requirements built into the our into park ordinance design guidelines and covenants conditions and restrictions otherwise known as c c and r s not to mention securing funding and financing in overcoming those hurdles the process is complex and formidable it is important to remember that even with the whole for passage of these bill girls the layers of oversight and regulation will remain but taken together these three bills in their current form represent the best chance for the aren t park to evolve thrive and fulfill its mission to continue to serve our community as a hotbed for innovation and business development and to be understands the concerns expressed about infrastructure needs and i please to see the bills in their core and form address those issues the master plan update also employs a form based zoning coding which will allow for important amenities accent to a community living within the park in light of recent events with the loss of the thousand jobs an egg and visit into the plan is really a vivid reminder that this task of economic diversification which is essential to our an owner within the project area they do own some land in there there's been a lot of good things said about this project and i think most of you are aware of the history of the project being supported by the county by the state and by the our national leaders for generations now on most of those a lot of those leaders who originally thought of this project are no longer here today but it's been a project that's been in the community plan since its first inception in the  eighty s it was this project area that we're looking at now it was incorporated for the most part in the community plan update in the ninety's the what's being asked of you today is not to expand the project area in the project district except to make some conformance with the lines but what's really being asked is to adopt this new thought process of having the living units within the aren t park so you can live next year homes i mean live year workplace it establishes an incredible pattern of circulation for pedestrians and for cars and it's really the up to date kind of thinking when it comes to zoning state of the art one of the important things that when this law gets pas it's there's no there's a probation on short term rentals so that's very very important in terms of the housing this is not a luxury housing project most of the housing that are going to be up there jordan mentioned a requirement for a certain percentage of workforce housing i suspect that most of the units that are quote not are that market are probably going to be workforce just because of where it's located because of this requirement that there is no short term housing allowed  are there were concerns last time brought up about the traffic there is a very detailed traffic assessment that requires improvements not in lieu fees but pro rata share of improvements and there's a major improvements in need to be on the highway intersections in and out of the project there's also a condition that the project can't be built be on a certain level of the north south collector road doesn't get built the project zoning is being adopted at the same time as a community plan that's by definition almost consistent i don't know how you can get more consistent than that the project's going to be built out in phases it will require subdivisions just like where luke and molly lonnie requires subdivisions as you go along every point of that when those when there's a subdivision you have to be consistent with the community plan by law there's many opportunities to make sure the project is consistent with the community plan and there could be conditions of fact the planning directors required to put conditions on the project to make sure that it's consistent with the community plan so there are multiple layers of review ahead of this project there's requirements for infrastructure improvements you know the project and i can conclude in about ten seconds if that's ok the project has been through the full gamut of current environmental review district boundary amendment changing zoning it's a thirty year old project but now it has up to date zoning and up to date environmental impact statement and all kinds of conditions and requirement that might succeeds was honored to work without adversely affecting the community so we are we have several concerns and we have submitted some proposed amendments to the condition that you have and two additional conditions that i actually found in the business park phase two and adapted them to this project so i think they're quite reasonable point out that this project is now not going to be a project district so it won't be coming back for that level of review and so this would be your last chance basically to take a look at it concerned with the enforcement of the land use commission conditions they have not historically been enforced by the county in fact the county has at times raised objections to enforcing the land use commission conditions so we're suggesting on the last page of of their testimony we're suggesting that you had some language to say that they're required to while you research and tech partners is required to comply with the land use conditions and will cooperate with efforts by the county to enforce those conditions  and that would that would make it much more likely that that would occur as far as infrastructure concurrency as you know the key mechanic community plan requires that infrastructure be built concurrently with the proposed development and upon adoption of the plan it's required that out of quick facilities and infrastructure will be built concurrent on the land used as ignitions are not an assertion that it infrastructure will be provided but it should be so that's a policy since you don't have another opportunity to look at that this is your last chance to condition that appropriately there are similar requirements in the maui county code chapter nineteen point five one zero and we no that although the land use commission staff was concerned with the traffic impacts the commission did not adopt anything specific so the concept of clocks is not actually in there so we're suggesting that the council should not approve this project until they are reviewed and approved of the memorandum of agreement that the department of transportation is going to be coming up with and that you should be approving that and not just trusting that planners in honolulu for d o t will be reflecting the concerns of my wee county they specific d o t specifically said that there were some level of service conditions five and six were saying that phase two shouldn't start until the infrastructure for phase two has been completed and you have my written comments so thank you for your consideration this is  should be the highest being and not i don't like to see them amended i know this is for such a small area and the purpose is to make it into a more contiguous park but i just have some concerns you know it sounds like a six foot square parcel and i won there lake what is the purpose to take it out of park and put it into business is it going to be like a kiosk or something if if there is another way to achieve that without taking it out of park is ignition and putting it into business you know i i think that on the west side our population is growing so fast and if we got to fight for every six foot square business and if if it does hopping in order to create the contiguous beach park what protection do we have on the park that eventually down the road it won't take that park and take it and make it into a business so i just wanted to state my concerns and i take the changing of community plan amendment very seriously if it's point zero four nine acres or if it's a one acre or twenty years or whatever i think our community plan should be respected and not everybody has members i'm testifying on behalf of my self as an individual and yes it's a busy morning so sixteen one twenty one filing of the correspondence related to the charter amendment to have each planning commission include members with an exhibit interesting commitment to a hawaiian culture preservation environmental protection and so forth i'll tell you you'd have a lot less lawsuits if you had somebody who actually could address these things during the planning commission discussion because our planning commissions as a person who sat there for many years are often told by their core consul that yeah you don't have to really do this now it can be done later whereas every single agency of the state has an affirmative duty to look at environmental impacts cultural impacts and if there's nobody with any expertise on that commission to bring that up for their fellow members it really is short sighted so the commission does a better job when accidentally there might be someone on who does have this perspective the land use commission does require someone with some why and knowledge to be appointed as one of the nine commissioners and it really has made a difference and we've had  some you know we've had some meaningful discussions there because of that so it's a shame that this is not you know being considered as something that seriously needs to happen on to the next  m sixteen dash one says just have to say yes yes yes please authorize a grant of elise to the boys and girls club of maui for their clubhouse these folks have a terrific program there a s president of the the community association our association and the haikou school and the p t a are all working very very closely with the boys and girls club it's a real success story for our community so please support these folks by continuing to give them a space at our community center it's also nice to have them there because they keep an eye on the place you know it's nice to have an ongoing program that's there every day and i do have to say our historical society really appreciates having their space every year at the whole alayo we use it to put up our historical display too so they're very gracious about that onto a new topic sixteen dash one seventy three and this is about having planning commission training and boy this is really needed i mean the planning commission gets an orientation and i served on a planning commission the g pac and we got an orientation and then we had two years worth of questions after that it could have been a little bit more in there up to you know our poor corp consul was kept working overtime because we just had many many questions about the purview even though we were given laws to review and so forth and so on i think the more training we could give our volunteers that serve on these boards and commissions the better the results we would get on to  sixteen ninety six this is the second and final meaning of the proposed amendment to the charter to require consul approval the mayor's appointments and department directors and allow additional qualifications for department directors to be established by ordinance i think every person sitting here knows that this is long overdue we are a major corporation here in the county and we certainly need to define and define clearly the level of expertise and skills that we need in the people that were interesting with the important implementation of the policies that this body works so hard and meticulously to create so it's no use having good laws see if when they get to the desk that supposed to implement them the person just simply doesn't mean ill but lacks the qualifications to do the kind of job that is needed consular services i believe i testified upon this last time as well you know you folks really do need your own legal consul who answers to you and everyone who's served for a while here knows the reasons for that they're just simply come up matters where the interests of the consul in the interests of the administration may have to perfectly legitimate different tracks and there needs to be clear representation for both so the best decision can be reached so i would also urge you to pass this resolution on that second and final reading and then moving on to the last item i signed up for which is bill seventy six  this is the actual change in zoning for the key a research and technology park and of course everyone agrees it's a great idea to have a project like this to really try something new but as ms ross museum six we all thought it was a great idea for the original plan we all thought it was you know going to be the case it's meow and it certainly has done some good but it didn't do everything that it thought it was going to do so i guess the point is plans change so i think that because plans change like everyone is committed to low impact design that may or may not happen on this project as it goes along with course hope it will so it's good to have clear guidelines so that the people who are sitting in your place in the future the people who are sitting in the planning department and public works have a clear idea of what is expected of them now we have heard that the sea conditions are really robust here so that the consul doesn't have to worry but you should know that he has absolutely no power to enforce its condition the only power it has is to remove the designation and reverted to agriculture they do not do that in fact they've done it once and they got sued and they lost so  and they all you see agreed with them they said they didn't and the county said it's not our purview to do those we didn't make those conditions we looked at the zoning that's all we had to do so that happens if it happens in real time so the question is is this a complicated plan yes it is during the agency comments when you read the i r s one of the agency says this really needs to go the urban design review board and will probably take several meetings because it's so complicated so the making sure that we get what's promised we really need the clearest and best language i'm glad that mr pereira's research what other developments have had as their conditions i think that that's a worth to this project so the the memorandum of understanding with the you know this going to deal with the traffic none of us have seen it so we don't really know exactly i'm sure the applicants you know are working on that  but we need to make sure that the consul conditions are clear and once it leaves this body there is no obligation to enforce the policies of the community plan of course the maps of the community plan will be something that the director looks at but the policies do not need to be looked at and once again that's what happened at the peak promise there were specific policies in the community plan and the director just said well zoning trumps those we don't need to look at those so this is the last chance to get it clear i urge you to follow the recommendations that have been made thank you thank you mr members only for clarification on any of those items thank you for being here this morning  before i begin good luck in the primary and general elections one of the concerns we have as an association is land use outpacing infrastructure a forward thinking project and i'm not going to argue the merits of that but our concerns are is this land use going to impact our transportation infrastructure in a way that's going to impact our quality of life as as residents because we as a neighborhood depend heavily upon the highway and this project is going to empty onto the p e o on the highway and so we're concerned as to whether or not you folks are going to make sure that this project is going to have adequate transportation infrastructure and would make us feel whole lot better if we knew that this was somehow the conditions for rezoning this project was somehow tied to the  north south collector road and the completion of that road and i read the conditions in the it's there very brief and there's nothing specific about that and it would be really nice there was something in the conditions over the years how that's becoming more and more crowded i mean is that level of service see you know it's not going to get better it's going to get worse it's towards a level service at some point in time in the future and this project is going to bring a lot of traffic onto that highway and me if you have a build out of twelve hundred fifty homes that's a lot of cars and then you add a couple more stoplights and then you know it's not it's not the highway it's only boulevard or people in the parking lot so this is one of the concerns we have as an association we hope you folks can address our concerns in some shape or fashion look at the conditions maybe you can tweak the conditions to tie it to the north south collector road i mean that makes signed up to testify at our district offices or council chamber morning everybody rosemary robinson concerned citizen glad to be here this morning there's been a lot of work that went into this agenda so i truly appreciate all of that we want goodness to come out of it my first address this morning is resolution number sixteen ninety seven that's on page eight of today's agenda it's titled proposing an amendment to the revised charter the county of maui nine hundred eighty three as amended relating to attorneys within the office of council services the second to go previous testifier gave a lot of good information on this i would like to address the resolution itself resolution number sixteen ninety seven and i'm sure i hope that when question that when me councillors are actually addressing this this morning that will be fully read but reading from just one paragraph on page one of this seven of this four page resolution it says whereas permitting attorneys within the office of counsel services just serve as legal advice as to the and its members this proposal will allow the council and its members to have access to independent legal advice when there's an actual potential conflict of disagreement between the executive and legislative branches this is not a case of getting rid of the councillors who are dealing with the executive part of our three tier government this is a case of adding additional expertise to that so reading over on that i juba hope that you will pass this resolution as stated it looks good to me the second item that i'd like to address this morning is the one above it on the same page page eight of our agenda this morning and this has to do sixty ninety six proposing an amendment to the revised charter of the county of maui one thousand nine hundred three is amended to require council approval of the mayor's appointment of department direct es and allow additional call of occasions for department directors to be established by ordinance certainly in that statement on the agenda this morning very much in agreement however when i went into look at the seven page resolution it talks about that applying to everything with the exception of the water director in terms of all of those other areas and it's saying that the directors of any of those has to have head he or she is to be able to apply and be employed and paid for by the public at large or you and me folks at home hit the ground running for the water director and the deputy director all it says is that one of them has to be an engineer  something's hugely massive in that so while i certainly into orse the intention of that it needs to have a little finance than one of the previous justifiers here this morning mentioned it's not a case of just somebody has an engineering credential if it's not related to water to flimsy to be passed in it's situation with so many of the meetings that we've had under this ceiling we have seen folks from the council services really get busying in right within the same meeting which is what i'm recommending this morning that you go over and manned that recommended amendment to be able to say that the person has applying for this job has to have already had the background so that he she will hit the ground running which it doesn't say now so we need to make sure that it does say that if you would busy up and get that done this morning there are lots of people out there that would be very happy to see this past remembering that two charter amendment groups ago during those elections sad to say there was a need to ask know thanks for sharing your thoughts this morning welcome strickler the next person to testify is steve perkins testifying on bill seventy four seventy five and seventy six he will be followed by  al agreement has been recorded with the euro conveyances against the property by all and orders in the park this project has a total of thirty four comprehensive conditions of development imposed on it now those conditions are here to tell you are all that the project can bear additional conditions are going to impact bank financing investment in the park sales and economic development efforts the developer of the park along with the other owners  the park would respectfully request you pass this updated ordinance today as presented to you without any additional conditions there's about thirty million dollars in construction projects that are backed up behind the passage of this is soon as we're able to get past the st p those will be able to pull building permits and we'll be able to get to work on the charter school and some not business expansion i'm happy to answer any questions you may have and thank you for this opportunity that's for you mr perkins members on a need for clarification see none thanks for being here this morning strickler the next person to testify is genes are zero testifying on bills seventy four seventy five and seventy six  concerns about getting our project our building project started on time as a component of a federal grant that is bringing nineteen preschools to the state of hawaii in charter schools we are the one charter school on maui that has been given that grant and this is a two year grant many hundred thousands of dollars that will go into developing not only the  educational steps for the preschool students who are attending but it is a petri dish it is a template for what we know the state of hawaii needs which is pre k programs throughout what is throughout the entire state for all public school students so i am very concerned that if we don't get the approval today that the developer can withstand then hold on to something that  we agree that the thirty four conditions already established are really enough to secure a comfort level within the community we will lose this pre k grant you know there's no doubt about it because the pre k grant has to start like in the school year of two thousand and seventeen and it cannot start in temporary facilities so this is very important and i know there are many many issues of importance regarding this project but this one affects youth in our community personally so we would like to get this started it would also help if we were able to get out of a commercial center a shopping center and classrooms and a church and put us all under one roof which would be again a major component of educational stability for the community of south mallee thank you very much thank you ms desire own members a new need for clarification see none thank you for sharing your thoughts with tickler the next person to testify is sam small testifying on committee reports sixteen dash one twenty sixteen s one twenty one sixteen dash one twenty two and resolution sixteen  ninety six and sixteen dash ninety seven mr small's the last individual who signed up to testify in the council chamber or at the district offices good morning journey counsel thank you for the opportunity today i want to congratulate the council you know for moving forward on a number of very important issues related to this community i started getting involved in looking at county politics a little over two years ago with  g m moratorium and it became clear as i started paying more and more attention to the matters that the system here was pretty much rate against the people's best interest r favor of corporate and profit driven interests driven by a desire for money off the island and so many of the systems and positions of the county government were in strictly in favor of the corporate agenda not in favor of the people's best interests and many of the proposals that you have today seek to change that and congratulations on doing that specifically the sixteen ninety six  adding additional qualifications for department directors is you know of course a no brainer you need to do that thank you for attempting to do that it's a long overdue the mayor's authority in hiring practices has been a incredible disservice as it has been applied to the county and the additional recommendation to that those directors have previous experience is well placed and please encourage you to make that alteration it's very important directors are supposed to be the smartest and most experienced people in the room that's the job it's not on the job learning kind of thing the learning curves are too steep the matters are too important to the citizens of this county to lead that persist so thank you for moving forward on that wow sixteen ninety seven huge thank you you need your own independent legal counsel so many of the issues that we are suffering from for years now so much of the money that has been wasted  in this county taxpayers money has been wasted because of corporations councils refusal to give an inch i mean it's an oligarchies it's absurd to the level of authority that the corporation counsel has here and you need to chip away at that and this measure i hope will do that you know the matters are now in federal court  estate development deferments a huge issue affecting everyone in the county because of the dollars missed from collecting those deferments and the low income housing that was given away by those to ferment corporation counsel's actions and other actions of directors in the county are inexcusable and they need to be made public and brought to justice and stopped in future business accounting needs to restructure itself and you are taking steps to do that congratulations in terms of elections sixteen one  twenty you know yeah it's the same part of the same system and again you're taking action to rein in the prosecutor's rang in the people that have extraordinary levels of authority in this community that don't that have been exploiting that entitlement and that's something that all the citizens are entitled to so you're seeking actions to try and rein those things and congratulations sixteen one twenty one again no brainer you know you we live in a hole why and land and bringing those cultural practitioners into the process at the planning stage is long long long overdue and one twenty two is a little tough now that in this election cycle have been the genesis of super pacs that do not require disclosure of their investors and those super pacs have dedicated themselves to local politics it's not statewide it's not national these super pacs are supporting candidates currently running for county council and so everyone's participation donations made to those super pacs are protected they will not be disclosed and so the notion of stopping county employees trying to stop county employees from making donations to county council campaigns is undermined by the existence of these super pacs i don't know how to reconcile that for you but thank you for district offices nor the chamber who is shopper testimony thank you mr clerk members we received a number of pieces written testimony without objection will receive it into the record no bench and thank you it's me will please come back to order mr could place proceed with their agenda mr chair proceeding with minutes you have before you the prove all of the minutes of the regular meeting of may sixth two thousand and sixteen and public hearing of budget finance committee the following committee reports committee report sixteen dash one twelve recommending to the proposed resolution entitled authorizing the transfer of an unencumbered appropriation balance within the department of finance fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget be adopted mr clerk for the record resolution sixteen dash ninety nine you have before you committee report sixteen dash one thirteen recommending the following one that the proposed bill entitled a bill for an ordinance authorizing the mayor of the county of maui to enter into an intergovernmental agreement with the relating to the acquisition of a governmental accounting standards board statement number sixty eight report be passed on first reading in the order to print and to that kind of communication sixteen dash one twenty four b filed committee report sixteen dash one fifteen recommend in the following one that the proposed bill entitled a bill for an ordinance amending the fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget for the county of maui as it pertains estimated revenues department of water supply ministration program water fund total operating appropriations and total appropriations operating in capital improvement projects be passed on first reading  order to print and to that kind of communication sixteen dash one twenty six to be filed amid reports sixteen dash one sixteen recommend in the following one that the proposed bill entitle the bill for an ordinance amending the fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget for the county of maui as it pertains to estimated revenues department of finance county wide cost total operating appropriations and total appropriations operating a couple improvement projects be passed on first reading to be ordered to print and to that kind of communication sixteen dash one twenty seven b filed amid reports sixteen dash one seventeen recommend in the following one that the proposed bill intitled a bill for an ordinance amending the fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget for the county of maui as it pertains to appendix b revenues fees rates assessments and taxes department of public works general fund special sixteen relative to committee report sixteen dash one one four bill seventy eight two thousand steen relative to commuter port sixteen dash one one five bill seventy nine two thousand and sixteen relative to commuter port sixteen dash one one six bill eighty two thousand and sixteen and relative to commuter port sixteen dash one one seven bill eighty one two thousand and sixteen you have before you from your infrastructure environmental management committee the following committee report committee report sixteen dash one one eight recommend in the following one that the that the proposed bill entitle the bill for an ordinance amending section ten point six zero point zero four two country code relating to cross walks be passed on first reading in the order to print and to that kind of communication sixteen dash one one five met on july eleventh two thousand and sixteen to discuss or propose a bill to amend section ten point six zero point zero four to maui county code relating to crosswalks the purpose of the proposed bill is to establish a mid block cross walk on lower main street approximately four hundred feet north of its intersection with the mill street in while the cross walk will allow patrons of tiffany's bar grill located at fourteen twenty four lower main street to safely walk across the street where a parking lot is located the public works commission unanimously recommended approval of the proposed bill at its meeting of march twenty third two thousand and sixteen the director of public works indicated the request for cross walk and plans for its installation were submitted by tiffany's plans will include road markings warning signs and lighting and to be paid for by tiffany's this would be the first time a private entity constructed  county crosswalk the director sought across maintenance agreement with the requestor however your could the recommended maintenance of the cross to lie within the county across up will be an added benefit not only but to other neighboring properties allowing for better ingress and egress your committee voted six to zero to recommend passage of the revised repos bill on first reading and by any of the communication i respectfully ask resolution entitled referring to the maui planning commission a proposed bill to amend the west community plan designation from park to business and a proposed bill to changes owning from p k general park district to be dashed to community business district for portions of properties things are just wiped off the map but this for me in of sorts is like a housekeeping type item and it's going to yeah it's not a huge swaths at it's and large space for the parks and it's just this fair trade th family original family who owns the original parcel there was an agreement of sorts and so this had to be adjusted in order to make it fair for the family too so in the end this is just this is a referral to the my planning commission so it will get further vetting out of sorts and by all means people can research a lot more if they need to but for me this has been more of a housekeeping type item and looking forward to p stickler for the record resolution sixteen dash one hundred you have before you from your policy an intergovernmental affairs committee the following committee reports committee report sixteen dash one twenty recommending that the correspondence dated april twenty seventh  thousand and sixteen be filed mr couch thank you mr chair may i ask that the without objection that the court bring up sixteen one twenty one and sixteen one twenty two please members any objections or mr clear here before you committee report sixteen dash one twenty one recommending to the correspondence dated april twenty eighth two thousand and sixteen be filed committee report sixteen days one twenty two recommending that the correspondence stated april twenty ninth two thousand and sixteen be chair your committee met on june twenty seventh twenty sixteen and july fifth twenty sixteen on these items and recommended that they be there we need a motion i'm sorry no problem via myself and i was at the time of discussion during committee disappointed but then we figured out a way for me to further pursue this addition to the planning requirements of the planning commission members so i am pursuing that route so the filing doesn't mean that this is totally dead subject off the books my office and this council is pursuing in another manner so i just wanted to comment on that because i wholeheartedly still support w in other situations we had and we had made those requirements as part of the ordinance as opposed to a change in the charter so we look forward to i know you've already transmitted it and i know you'll be following mr clerk you have before you committee report sixteen desh one twenty three recommending to the proposed resolution entitled relating to the point of margaret perry to the country commission of persons with disabilities be adopted mr couch famous second for mr carroll mr couch thank you mr chair at this meeting of july eleventh twenty sixteen your committee voted six zero to recommend the adoption of a resolution entitled relating to the appointment of margaret piri to the maui county commission on persons with disabilities the purpose of the resolution is to prove the appointment and her term expires march thirty first twenty seventeen your committee expressed its pretty she should for miss peri's willingness to serve on the commission and on that same  machines for the while loop the district receiving desk and the law in a district prisoner processing area from the hawaii criminal this data center to the county of maui department of police pursuant to chapter three point five six some our county code these fingerprinting and photographing imaging machines twenty six thousand dollars and one year maintenance valued at four thousand dollars from the a y e r come from the why ground from the hawaii criminal justice data center to the department of police to the machines will be used at the white local police of housing and human concerns notifying the council of intended voluntary contributions for the fiscal year two thousand and seventeen received from senior program participants totaling three hundred fifty seven thousand three hundred eight dollars no letter of intent mr ok before you come to an indication sixteen one fifty two from the executive on aging my county office on aging transmitting to the council a copy of the notice of grant award from the state of hawaii executive office on aging for the computer care program for the period july first two thousand and sixteen two thousand and seventeen in the amount of one million fifty three thousand eight hundred one dollars kind of communication sixteen dash one fifty three from the chief of police transmitting to the council a copy of the grant agreement with the office of the services for the positive outreach intervention program for the period of may first two thousand and sixteen to april thirtieth two thousand and seventeen and the amount of eighty five thousand two hundred sixty three dollars kind of communication sixteen dash one fifty four from the community development block grant program manager transmitting to the a copy of the notice of grant award from the u s department of housing and urban development office of community planning and development for the community development block grant program for the period of july first two thousand and sixteen to june thirtieth two thousand and seventeen and the amount of one million seven hundred thirty one thousand one hundred ninety one dollars kind of communication sixteen dash one fifty five from the prosecuting attorney transmitting to the council a copy of a notice of grant award in the state of hawaii department of the attorney general crime prevention and justice assistance division for the victim victim witness assistance division for the period of july first two thousand and sixteen the june thirtieth two thousand and seventeen in the amount of sixty four thousand eight hundred sixty four dollars kind of communication sixteen dash one fifty six from the director of housing and human concerns transmitting to the council a copy of the notice of grant from the state of hawaii executive office on aging for the department of housing in human concerns human concerns program title three program for the period october first two thousand and sixteen to september thirtieth two thousand and seventeen in the amount of seven hundred forty three thousand eight hundred eighty nine dollars kind of communication sixteen dash one fifty seven from the fire chief transmitting to the council a copy of the notice of grant award from the state employee board of land and natural resources for the lifeguard services of mckenna beach grant for the period of july first two thousand and sixteen to june thirt mr clerk you have before you kind of communication sixteen dash one fifty eight from the director of finance transmitting to the council a report of short term investments for the quarter ended june thirtieth two thousand and sixteen mr okama chairman i would request sixteen just  do you have do you have a work of addition of which contract you'd like to do with to be referred to committee and i would also ask the members if they have contracts they wish to be forwarded to finance component for review  point one six six one seven zero million dollars and the final item i would like to have referred to committee is more of it is a heading the subject heading chairman this would be under the heading of  s i have noticed that we executed forty two grants in the last quarter of the fiscal year by we d and human concerns i want to subject referred to committee a lot of i would like them to explain requests from the members and other contracts i see none the most of those two to file this with the exception of the contract believe it of communication sixteen dash one sixty one from the mer informing the council a vacancy on the urban design review board due to the resignation of gerald steiner was to couch thank you mr chairman i request that the court bring up sixteen this one sixty two without objections so ordered it before you kind of communication sixteen dash one sixty two from the mer informing the council a vacancy on the cost of government commission due to the resignation of gail long miscount think in the communications there were reading informed of vacancies on two different boards or commissions and so we want to just think mr steiner for his service on the urban design review board and m long for the her service on the cost of government commission thank you members any further discussion seen none of those in favor produced signify by saying i right those opposed say no measure passes with  these and one excused sickler you have before you kind of communication sixteen dash one sixty three from the director of water supply transmitted to the council the part of the water supplies monthly source report and groundwater use report for the month ending june two thousand one excused strickler mr chair proceeding with kind of communications for you for all the following kind of communications are recommended for referral to the following committees as noted to your budget and finance committee kind of communication sixteen  one sixty five from the budget director transmitting to the council a proposed bill entitled the bill for an ordinance amending the fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget for the county of maui as it pertains to appendix a part one grant revenue schedule of grants by departments in programs department of housing and human concerns computer care program kind of communication sixteen dash one sixty six from the budget director transmitting to the council a proposed bill entitled the bill for an ordinance amending the fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget for the county of maui as it pertains to appendix a part one grant revenue schedule of grants by departments and programs department of police state nine one one wireless commission kind of communication sixteen dash one sixty seven from the budget director transmitting the following one a proposed building titled a bill for an ordinance amending the fiscal year two thousand and seventeen budget for the county of maui as it pertains to estimated revenues department of management while the community plan area government facilities based yards total capital improvement project appropriations and total appropriations operating in capital improvement projects a proposed bill entitled a bill for an ordinance amending ordinance number forty three thirty one bill number fifty nine two thousand and sixteen relating to the issuance of general location bonds of the county of maui bond fund its three proposed bill entitled a bill for an ordinance amend submission april two thousand and fifteen kind of communication sixteen dash one sixty eight from the budget director transmitted to the council the budget implementation report as of june thirtieth two thousand and sixteen fiscal year two thousand and sixteen fourth quarter to your economic development energy agriculture creation committee kind of communication sixteen dash one sixty nine from the mer transmitting to the council a proposed resolution entitled authorizing the first amendment to lease granting ex an extension of time and reduction in rent for the veterans of foreign wars veterans center and community activities site lease and related documents kind of communication sixteen that's one seventy from the director of parks and recreation transmitting to the council a proposed resolution entitled authorizing a grant of lease of cannae recreational space to boys and girls clubs of maui incorporated haiku club house to your infrastructure environmental management committee kind of communication sixteen dash one seventy one from the director of public works informing the council the department's requests for additional time to respond to the department of health proposed rule changes to the ministry of rules kind of communication six english one seventy two from council member cochran transmitting to the council chair the matter relating to all who roads in west maui they were part of the miley by partition policy and intergovernmental affairs committee kind of communication sixteen dash one seventy three from council member cochran transmitting to the council a proposed bill in title the bill for an ordinance amending chapter two point two eight mari county code relating to planning commission membership and training thank you mr clerk members are there any objections to the items referred hundred three as amended to require council approval of the mayor's appointment of department directors and allow additional qualifications for department directors to be established by ordinance mr couch they wish to share a move to pass resolution  ninety six on first reading for proposing a charter member relating to council approval of department directors the purpose of resolution sixteen dash ninety six is to place on the net next general election ballot the question of whether the charter shall be amended to require council approval of the mayor's appointment of department directors and allow additional qualifications for department directors to be established by ordinance i respectfully request the council's favorable consideration of this matter thank you mr coach members any further discussion on this ninety seven untitled proposing an amendment to the revised charter of the county of maui one thousand nine hundred three as amended relating to attorneys within the office of council services mr couch thank you mr chair i move to pass resolutions sixteen dash ninety seven on second and final reading authority of o c s staff attorneys appointed by the counsel to serve in the legislative branch the purpose of this resolution is to place on the next general election about a question of whether or not to whether the charter should be amended to one allow attorneys within the office of counsel services in addition to attorneys within the department of corporation counsel to serve as legal advisers to the council and its members and to to allow the council to designate by two thirds of its entire membership attorneys within the office of counsel services as special counsel to serve as legal representatives for any special matter rep present presenting a real necessity for such employment currently attorneys within the office of counsel services assist the counsel in his legislative duties including staffing counsel committees interfacing with the public drafting legislation memoranda and other working documents and conducting legal research but they cannot provide formal legal opinions under the current structure the council and its members sometimes need to have a ready access to independent legal advice such as when there is an actual or potential conflict or disagreement between the executive and the legislative branches i respectfully question the council's several consideration of this motion thank you mr couch any further amendment for the last four years or at least three years and at this point very happy to have it as second reading i think is something that's very needed at times i know that we can't always depend on one opinion and sometimes like they said by the testifier said there are two sometimes two legitimate causes so that needs to be worked out with this type of ability of our council service attorneys to give opinions who would also aid and our future endeavors so i'd like to thank you chair for supporting this as well as my members on the floor thank you very much it was only further discussion on this item see none of those in favor please signify by saying i i mean those opposed say no because you're passive with eight eyes and one excused as to clerk mr chair proceeding with ordinance a second and final reading you have before you bill number seventy three two thousand and sixteen untitled if they'll find ordinance granting rural county poly holdings l l c a conditional permit to allow up to twenty four resort related or community sponsored special events per year within the aid to apartment in our dash three residential districts for  fun events to this area which our visitors take part of the annual kicky fishing derby our local families take part of so there's numerous on the poly fresh so there's numerous events that occur in this area and in order for them to conduct them bill will need to pass this through looking forward to the support and to make sure that these wonderful events that happen annually continue thank you for that year you i remember taking my kids to the fishing tournament many years in a row any further discussion members see none of those in favor please signify by saying i was opposed say no if you in a second for mr couch mr carrol  commission impose conditions will prove to mitigate potential impacts of the construction build oh and operations phase of the project according to its decisions orders the project expected to be substantially completed within twenty years of the twenty thirteen commission approval with backbone infrastructure expected to be completed within thirteen years on july twenty ninth two thousand and sixteen crew tours and porters provide written testimony to this body addressing many other questions raised on first reading of these bills copies of the constituents just want to be distributed to the cultural members or the clerks office representatives will play department are also here to discussion mr comma chairman thank you speak this morning on this motion with reservations for me item i would think the managing partner would take that responsibility through their agreements to do their representation of the project and that we deal with one voice one person  disturbing that it took so long as i understand six months to try and deal with this concern i for one don't like to be weighed by the tail and when you look at the attachments to the ordinance i would i can see mr wong arguing or differently in the position that the conditions as placed by the land use commission still has  authority over by this county and as i read the documents and i look forward to my learned colleague to my laugh if he views it similar that the language is until the county signs off term not quite sure i understand the question can can you restate that number will come and again mr songwriter i know it was so i'm looking at the bill since seventy six when i look in the back on pages five satisfaction and provides a return release the covenant condition or restriction still applies as i read it if you go to number six it also says that released in writing by the county the conditions imposed by this declaration runs with the law and county of my we shall have the right to enforce this declaration by appropriate action of law or suit in counsels part because i don't think we need to structure another condition for you know little agreement i think we can if need be provide sufficient clarification on our intent through a section of the rationale is by reading it yes we can because the only way they can be released by it is by a written document from the county to release them from the from the conditions provided is i'm not sure if one of the conditions is to incorporate by reference all of the land use commission conditions i don't think they are  yeah the county under under h r s to a five is actually the enforcement body for the land use commissions conditions however the unilateral agreement itself only deals with the change in zoning conditions themselves so this particular language is only a political to the zoning conditions which aren't the same as the land use commission conditions force the land use commission conditions the actual decision in order that the land use commission issues is recorded on the property recording of the unilateral agreement that's why there are so many owners because the actual property owners had the power of the conditions recorded against their property so as far as these conditions are concerned yes they're recorded on the property so as to be enforceable commission conditions that's a totally separate process that the state land use commission regulates the county does have the authority to enforce those those conditions but it wouldn't be through this particular unilateral agreement this is under the my county code i think one thousand five ten zero five zero d is the section it's with unilateral agreements and those only deal with conditions of zoning so i mean in unless the county wanted to have similar conditions added as a condition of zoning  i see there are six and so the agreement only deals with these six conditions pacifically and not anything other than those six conditions you know at your and i'm happy to have other members sure but to conclude my comments at this point in my this time to speak i will say for me there is benefits that i'm supporting this proposal to the one i see that a great opportunity to further encourage the development of our technology sector i want this sector to grow i need it to continue to reduce the dependency on the visiting industry i needed to continue to provide greater and better job opportunities in payment of wages they would not require a residence to work another one or two jobs besides that job to survive in this they don't need additional impacts for the forty eight states we need to take care or if you must our practice is if you who we are as our people there should be understanding of where this council is trying to move toward never addressed and i had my questions i think there is for some partners or owners in this entire project that backed out because they did they fell through conditions and what have you heavy duty but i still have not gotten the answers myself and yes of course we have the discussion of another project that and it goes on to any highway that's going to impact the traffic and this too will do the same and i hear the concerns of this community and they feel like it hasn't been addressed and what have you so but i think overall the general new smart concept of the the whole layout of this project is good and we talk about all this mixed use and walkable and all this stuff which which is wonderful and that concept about living where you work is not a new concept that is how i grew in right on front street in la hina so we're sort of coming back to full circle of what makes sense of how people have lived already because it's you know the it works so those kind of things very  wholeheartedly support of but i hear my fellow members discussion and i agree so you know this and it's the footprint i think of the enormity of this too but yes it's in the urban g support of this project as well just to talk to the communities concerns about the traffic the traffic impact analysis report states that the road the nor soft heart the road has to be completed by the end of phase one  why state department transportation signs off signs off on every subdivision and they will not allow any additional phases if that north south collector road is not complete and it's there that we have to go through them to get the north south correct road complete or maybe the m p o we're working on that right now but so there are some broad alls and there are two governors in there to slow back to slow the development of the road county code so if the code changes prior to it it construction to that then come play with the new revise policy or the policy as it is today up on passage of the ordinance because if we feel that the you know time in situation changes we feel that it's to the benefit of the free to make it adjustment in the housing policy through the code then meet the new requirements of the new revised code is one hundred fifty mr chair point of information on that condition that talks about the bit about the maui county code in the residential workforce housing policy talks about the duration not the number it's just the duration how long it has to remain ford wong or mr harper chair the way i would would read the condition is that one hundred of the units required have to be rental units the duration has to be consistent with the workforce housing policy i don't read this as the as the only number of unit provide the policies going to deal with how many they provide to says one hundred of them have to be rental units and i think if you look at the committee discussion that was it and we could look back at that but i think it's saying one hundred of the units have to be rental units the total number of units would have to be consistent with the policy that's going to have to be during subdivision and the duration for the duration during which they have to be kept affordable would be consistent with the with the ordinance there three hundred three hundred something three hundred units something and then one hundred of that is supposed to be rental or is that in addition to i cannot recall mr this is this project is providing affordable housing is providing affordable rental units it's providing a and expansion of a school which is very much needed we don't know when the new  school is going to be completed it's a project or an area that has already been developed and has ordinance specific to so when it was first created there was it growing and this and my mind is another way of expanding that area it is somewhat secluded and the way that the it's been presented by the developers in a form base code model which other jurisdictions have used throughout the country and i've had the opportunity to visit one in florida as well it is a really interesting and dynamic community or and you can't build a house i know that this cochran had mentioned it's something not something very new but it's new in terms of c and put placing it within our code where you can live and work in the same community there will be a school there i believe there's also provisions in here to make sure that the traffic impacts are accommodated this is difficult because i understand the community concerns but on the other hand we also have community needs and so i will vote for this with reservations as well cns the change of model for mckenna we need to have a focus on economic development we need to have a focus on providing jobs that are going to keep our kids here and bring some of the kids home who have settled in other places across the nation so i think this is an important step forward in allowing for a different method of development than was initially perceived for the area but i think it's very clear that when the founders put this together initially they were expected to be built out by now so you know i think we're still way behind the eight ball as far as the ability to create jobs in this area there's no question in my mind that this is a job creator and it's something that i realize the community has some concerns and rightfully so about traffic at the same time i feel we have overriding concerns of this at this point in time for providing the you know the  schooling opportunities that will take place here and all sort of the economic development so with that i'm i'm support of this project with some reservations but not too many mr clerk mr chair proceeding with unfinished business you have before you build number seventy one two thousand and sixteen entitled a bill for an ordinance to change the name from interim district our dash three residential district conditional zoning for for you mr carroll thank you i would like to say at last it's been a long journey for these individuals they did not hire a consultant where most people can afford to and this gives them an opportunity to satisfy the division they can leave for their heirs and this is what the most going through this over a year so i asked my colleagues to please support passage of this bill thank you thank you mr bill there was any further discussion on this item