and first off we're going to start with community announcements i should note the farmer's market is open on thursday afternoons down the clapham st lot in belmont center please come and partake in the their new hours at the town hall offices till november second and it starts tonight late nights on monday such as tonight till seven o'clock which is now so you missed it but it is late night mondays till seven and closing fridays at noon for the summer as an experiment to see how it goes if you need  transact business at the town offices after hours after work come on down on monday nights we're having a public forum on post closure use of the incinerator site on concord avenue on june eighteenth at eight pm at the town hall auditorium  open to the public to come and bring your ideas and tell us what you think you ought to do with the incinerator site after we close it dr electric june twenty fourth is having another dr event over the general middle school from one till four pm or you can view and test drive electric vehicles so it's always a fun time the june nineteenth two thousand and eighteen at seven pm the planning board is meeting at the beach street center to discuss how to regulate adult use otherwise known as recreational marijuana  through the zoning that we're going to be working on through the fall in a special town meeting in november so if you have thoughts about zoning regarding recreational marijuana that would be june one thousand eight that seven pm at the beach street center the under d pool opens for the twenty two thousand eight hundred season june twenty third bring your towels should be a good time trash sets the new trash cans that you've been all waiting for foreign new trash contracts are going to be delivered the end of the month where they're going to be and they're going to be placed or you should be leaving them for pick up so please know where they're left for you because that's where you will leave it for them and pay some part music festivals kicking off the trees do you know when the first concert  june twentieth thank you june twentieth at pace and park hence the name so neck any other community nonsense from either of you know las going on next to be comments from town residents on items that are push the buttons to turn on the mikes and just to frame this discussion for the public the currently have and you can fill me in correct me on the details i know i don't fully understand the details but that basically seniors if they want to can i have the earn up to a thousand dollars towards paying off their taxes and they do so at minimum wage which is currently a leavened dollars per hour and that's going to be increased in two thousand and nineteen to twelve dollars an hour so that's that's the basics of the program  the state now allow those seniors church up to fifteen hundred dollars a year so that's one one reason we're here today ok you know and this is one of the things that i've heard a lot from seniors that i think that they would like to see some tax relief in light of things they're going to be coming up shortly and on the ballot in that the this is a it's a small number obviously but anything would be helpful likewise i've heard a lot of discussion about lowering the interest rate on the tax deferral program which we're not talking about tonight but but just delay the sort of framework for that is the ability for seniors to defer paying taxes until either they sell the property or pass away and they have the ability to do that so have to pay their taxes at all right now but it accrues at a very high interest rate which i've talked a lot of seniors and suggested to them and they say that the interest rate is what deters them from doing it if there was a rate to reduce the interest rate to more reasonable level more people this so there is and it's been a fifty six thousand for household and where asking income yes income sorry so we're asking to raise that which is allowable under the state to we thought of seventy two thousand it was somewhat based on our adjacent communities lexington sort of raised it the same amount they were  roughly there their income guidelines were roughly the same and raised it roughly the same i would tell you that so in real terms why would that be important well in the past year we had three people who could no longer avail themselves of the program because they moved or died but there were three people who who applied but couldn't because they didn't meet the income eligibility so we don't want to lose people who are interested when we want to increase the program so i think i think the seventy two thousand dollars figure is more realistic for you know two thousand and eighteen them the fifty six that was a number last changed that was years ago the number of it's it's some of the conversations we had and i have had the town council is that once a town adopted the statute of having this program it was a simple majority vote of the slackman to change the exemption amount and the income level amount so when i brought that t and i've even spoken to the human resources director our current human resource director there are they can be opportunities in other departments so for example town clerk's office when the is so that's that's the kind of time period you know the amount of hours that a volunteer could be very useful so so it really does not need to be limited to the senior fact that we were planting trees or doing other things in my way providing this benefit to our seniors and i don't see any sort of benefit from doing that the last time the board went in front of me was five years ago this past spring i think we caught off guard we were debt exclusion operating overruns and things coming up i think getting this in front of that is important for people before they yeah everything over the next i mean we have in the fall and so we sort of want i mean i concur with the chair we need to send a message to the senior community that if you can't afford you need to move out of town so your house that there are ways that you can do for support you know paying of these taxes hours the fact that we had added value for this because those people who do their hours well work well beyond their hours and so we  along the same line yes i would imagine that some of the jobs that we're asking these individuals to do we would probably pay at a higher wage potentially if we had someone in that role at speculation but is it possible that you know we're actually getting  a benefit in terms of the actual cash outlay it is minimum wage so i would say that you know some of the positions when you look at the yeah that's what that's what didn't get me for the so currently you're working on a thousand dollars until the end of this calendar year so if you were to him to implement this  the increase in the exemption amount to fifteen hundred right and also the income threshold of seventy two to raise the i think that's right well i think it has been touched on a while and for inflation purposes that makes sense and the i mean i was the belief of the entire board the three of us to go on friend tommy and me on having you know if you think it makes sense and because i respect the other members of the board of assessors talk and if you think that it's important to hear from the chair and you know so other member materiality perspire no and so on because you know you me over all issues that we have to deal with in our community and this is the kind of matter as you and as you remember that five years ago because i was sitting at the board table that came in perhaps we were as prepared as we need to be collectively it became a very contentious discussion and tommy for it and i think it was divisive i don't think i'll support i don't think it's necessary to do that i don't know why we would debate twenty one thousand dollars and coming for a seniors i just don't want to the chair want to call and speak with this individually or you guys won't come in front of us together we can do that which is to get some sense of why you know i feel that's important i don't think it's necessary i mean in the forward of these i think it's the least we can do for a seniors in town and i support of the director of the council on aging let's move forward we also at that meeting want to talk about the interest rate would will push that out further and i think that the dissenters would have to talk about the interest well but we should talk about bring it back to the bo about marketing these both of these programs more to the seniors because i lot of people i told in there about it during when i was campaigning they didn't know these existed so i think it's i know you do all you can because not been on every one of vail's themselves of the council on aging services so there's got to be some way once we set these whatever we do we should have a big push to make sure people understand maybe in the tax bills or what i think it was you would attack to think they've done it the technique floyd did that but it just doesn't seem to cut i think at the beatrice center it's week to go for the regional grant for the social worker that was a supplemental the check and that gram around will be opening up in august so it will be applying for that one fast fix that was one of the just for the public that was one of the items that was top talked about being a supplemental budget item which mean that it wasn't in the budget but something that might be added but we didn't have the funding for it to fight to have a social worker increase or so he's run this was you know so the fact that we can regionalize it and get some update from purity path implementation of ice recommitted chair mr leno and i think the senator may join us and i surely will yeah why not yup this goes in there are two items there's the one i just described and then there's also discussion community path funding as you know the public may or may not be aware we have been having an ongoing series of meeting with committee chairs and the board of selectmen to touch base and do this as a regular thing and we've had chairs of various committees come before us and talk to us about what they're doing and we talk to them both what they're doing and since mr leno was on here for discussion of funding we thought this might be time to just generally catch up to the rest that see again community implementation advisory committee to muffle will brownsburg or state senator so you know as as you know the board knows   we wanted to do in the nature of moving forward was was have a discussion with our state legislators to get their perspective and advice on the process next steps funding obviously and help us think through how we could tackle those those issues one of the things arising out of out of those meetings and communications were it was the senator  them you know on a on a pretty detailed level actually to start sussing out all the procedural stuff and sort of substantive thinking that will that will need to go into you know going from from and you know just just really they had that been some some time with their feasibility study we got some pretty valuable i think feedback from them on on the proposed route on next steps on how to approach it i think the goal of the committee from this perspective is that we before we move into design we have a we have a chance to at least anticipate and hopefully solve some of the problems or her or challenges that may come up as we move through the process so that we're worried do you retain a design consultant we're asking them to do the right thing in the right order and you know make sure we we are just approaching it in the today they were kind enough to come out which was really excellent i can get into that on a sort of higher level the other sort of parallel track we're working on is to start thinking through the funding for the design phase of this i think you know our our ideal is to be able to have funding in place or large chunk of c p a funding i think that's probably going to be the you know make the most sense in terms of at least starting the design process and beginning that  that process so again you know i think will we're we're hopeful that will be you know putting in an application for this fall and and then you know at this time next year we're hoping to be sitting here with only a tele meeting a pretty just come into as well so we had a really productive meeting this morning but you know here's the thing with miss taught me you know they when we went through a real detail presentation our prayer consultant amy  nurture went through she's been terrific i think you've seen her in action and jeffrey really was there as well and it was great because we had a lot of sort of back and forth in terms of as you remember it's a very complicated path i mean because it's a very complicated community to to to run a path through this so many complexities to cross the tracks four times as you heard that expressed by the center of town mean so we heard that safety back this morning and you know fatal flaws per se but just expressing some points of view about crossing the tracks a suspect sense adds edition expense so there are a number of things that we have to work through we believe that we'll have to work through with mass thought there was detail presentation because as you understand there is complexities there's an over the path goes over a set of tracks on at the housing authority down in that area it crosses the tracks again at alexander revenue and then across the tracks one more time in brighton st so some concerns expressed by the number of times you cross attracted as a cost and then there's also some other issues around you know the and we do here because there is a you know road from encroachments there nothing from a fatal perspective but what we heard today is that we would need to get to a point where there is an agreement generally by leadership a mass by the district four members that we hear this morning before it goes to a project review committee and support for them so we have to work through all of those issues with them before we would even move into a design phase i think that's how we've discussed this morning right i want to suggest an approach that i think i think we can probably put together some movement on fairly quickly think of the path  three parts which i'll call phase one a phase one b and phase two phase two is all the stuff down towards waverly west side of the west end of it you out too quickly phase but on the from on this end of things there's really two parts there is the north south connection from alexander avenue down to concord avenue through a new tunnel which doesn't norma's value from the standpoint of the high school project and from a community standpoint has an even higher level of urgency because of that project and then it's call that one day and one b is the path segment from brighton street to just a little past belmont center whether now what what the district said to me today was that we could put those two pieces together one day and one be in a single project without finally resolving questions about whether the past segment between alexander ave and brighton street lies on the north side or the south side we've gotten some of the committee committees recommendation was to move it to the south side but the t has expressed strong reservations which we heard directly and we heard again expressed through master representative this morning that putting it on the south side forces people on the bike path to cross the tracks and they just don't want they don't they don't like that but that doesn't us that's not the last last word but there's a strong concern there so there's a conversation we need to have and that's the conversation that that mark was referring to you know to get some direction on that and to build some consensus on that  but we don't have to at this stage of the next stage of the process is getting the project approved not from a total funding standpoint but just for the standpoint of having mass taught work on it and put it into their system as a pending project and the steps for that are the completion of a couple of forms by the project need form and prejudicial form project initiation for m and then with those forms they they work with mass on some of this work has happened already with the district staff this is something that happens of the district staff level and they present those two in a two sta process they take them to what they call the the will of the the second stage is the project review committee and the stage for that is the pre project preview committee so the preprocessor who you committee meets three times a year the next meeting is june twenty eighth they have said that they'll work with us to try to hit that date to get this into the p r c process  for this for the for so the the preparer see on june twenty eighth and the project review i think it's on july twelfth so that on july twelfth we would then have a project approved by if you know all things go as we hope and then we would have that first of all as a brick and a concept that people would understand as they're thinking about the high school issue and second  we would have something that we would be able to start negotiating the more detail parameters of of how to move forward with those parameters could be let's do the north south connection first let's connect alexander ave to concord ave which has a lot of value likely i mean how it has all the value of the the local benefits from the standpoint of people going to school and how that defuses some of the traffic concerns people have been raising about the new junior high school high school complex but it also i think has benefits first cyclists you know or through traffic who are you know there's i think there's a number of routes that make sense that cyclists will take advantage of that so that to the extent our concern is a through cycling path i think this helps and i think that  we'll see how that that's that's a negotiation we have to have a math ultimate ultimately their larger priority is to get the through traffic going from bright street on through first of all the pleasant street which is a huge benefit and then second all the way to the to the other end of the town line but i think  their feeling was that in terms of what to present to the project review committee it would be best to present those two things together the one a and one b concepts together that they feel comfortable presenting that without necessarily the phase t avenue and that's how we have to keep refer to it i think is because from their standpoint just an underpass that lets you get to the high school that's not something they're going to fund right but are drawings your drawings have always had that being is a path that connects all the way  the only issue of course is the usual is the you know the neighbors in the going on the north side has issues well yes but you're suggesting we could have a prude project without completely resolved and that's what i was that's exactly right you don't have to make that decision now that the this is a think an important conceptual point was we're not coupling the question of whether you build an underpass with a question of which side you put the tracks on ok there's the reading that the path on the south or the north you want the underpass that's because i think that we are i think we've we've said that it said this for a while before you even on the board that we want to do that underpass however we can get that underpass done regardless of how the path goes because it's so crucial but it but i think this makes abundant sense because well does that reduce it we do just this the east side if you will the section that we sort of lose track of momentum on the west section and it takes someone seven helps if you have someone to you know create even more of a compelling reason to complete this thing yeah i did forgot this much left a will now in the west is is that the fly over is absolutely a concern the box over it we have the station and what's going to happen with that station there's a lot of negotiation discussion on that as well so there there's a lot of it's actually more complicated than the section no it's a bit more common that is that i think is true i think you know from my perspective sitting through both of these meetings and participating in these meetings with master guide you know it's clear i mean i think as we always thought right that you know their priority their perspective is to have this connection and the greater gap but that's the super essential to automatically fill and and you've got something working here in town so that you know this is that's that's really incredible i think you know one of the things i was planning to convey today and something that you know i learned from today's meeting is that you know that the project new form i think we've always been on the impression that you really needed to start the design  that to get on there and i think we heard loud and clear and definitely emphasized and even you know more concrete where that is certainly not the case that we can that we can do that now and you know get get you know an officially recognized project  i think the other thing i think when the board has to my recommendation is that the boards support and sponsor can we present nation committee occasion for some component of this i'm whether the full cost or yeah not like i have been saying from last year but i mean i think they're ready for they understand that it's coming and that this is going to be a sore like when the plane the underwood pool was coming they knew that it was coming in it was a going to be a big chunk of the money for the year yes so much so i think the next step then is to meet that june twenty meeting date so here's what happens is as i understand it you know i would recommend that whoever a key point person is whether it's jeffrey or spencer you know actually i think i think my understanding i asked jeffrey who's been talking to them to talk to jeffrey this afternoon and he said that it's been he said i thought it might be you or but i said it's probably actually the consult that's been meeting with me yeah but somebody from the town whether the consult wants to do in the end they're just going to do it because they want to keep in move this forward after all these years of languishing to suddenly be on a fast track as kind of a friend thomas yeah i think this is great if you use it for what i mean and the p f i mean i've looked at it before it's not now with you to to kind of make sure they understand it because then there are those engineers are the ones who are going to present it to the project review committee meanwhile as the town sort of works directly with them i other key people will be involved in the review and you know i will try to cover as many possible bases as i can so that they're ready for this concept you know really really appreciate or do we have to have some of these suggest of this one and we just sort of move forward and that you know they did they were sort of see i think they were pushing that a little bit so i think we may ultimately want to do that but i think between now and the twenty eighth i don't think that's what we need to do because we're we're saying ok yep we acknowledge that there's a lot of ambiguities once you get down towards that end we're not going to try to resolve those now we're saying we recognize there is a decision to be made north or south in this in the east segment but we don't have to resolve that now that's not a decision that's critical on the critical path to getting this b n f done so i think all of our focus is get the p f done get to that stage then we have a project and we can talk about do we want which is master prepared to think of it as one a and one b and put one a maybe the path the  alexander to concord ave through the tunnel connection on the tip first you know and which case you're asked to the to the to the to the c b c is a smaller ask or do we have to you know put it all forward at once to for the to process and they might tell us they want to see it all forward at once i'm not sure and then there's a judgment call there as to what they think is most likely to be successful at that stage i think there's a strong argument that putting the ball forward together will be more successful because people will see the more the regional value right up front and they will but i think the altogether sounds better to me but you know we'll take what we can gather yes whatever not no i know i think i know you know we emphasize as a number of times i just want to do it again was meant to be sort of it's flexible document and was was meant to work with how this ended up at orating  you know and so i think we're seeing some of the you know rubber meet the road now and having to you know probably use some of that but i i did just want to reemphasize that that's how it was designed to work the fuse abilities it was designed to work so i don't think we should be afraid of using it in that way and how do you feel the i guess more time of generally though about the committee how do you feel the new charge has been working out for you since we sort of transition from coming up with the design to moving forward and actually implementing yeah no i think i mean i think it's good right like you know we've we've we've we as a committee have been thinking of it as a sort of dual happened with underwood and and how they approach that project i thought was pretty informative for us and and then also you know like i said refining the actual ask the plan which you know  we've we've made some progress on and i think you've been given some some more progress so you know i think i think that sort of dual track is is the right one and you know in general i possibility that maybe there's one or two other individuals in the town because the more people involved here that he's got have been doing this for four years the bad us i think we should think about we do committees whether we want to just reconstitute c p i you say called c p i c really ops and expand it to seven perhaps because we then maybe want to two other individuals in town that have skill sets that could be beneficial to the process of i'm very evident it's a multi year this is it's i mean as you as we i think we're getting a flavor for it again thank you for all the work that you've done and thank you senator for helping to grease the skids to move this through i think you guys are doing a great job i think that you know the leadership you've shown to get us to where we are it's huge progress and  think doing a great job as well it's always sort of it's orbit it's i think we're in a position to to make some real progress on the foundations as of late we appreciate his fantastic should good discussion i really should and obviously if anything comes up you know you want to get on our agenda you know because there's some critical thing you need to weigh in  are they all have those little back to thank you i don't know if they'll all have the basket they have seen where there are some versions that have the basket and some that do not and that's great so i want to introduce yourself for the record and give us the up  since then to coordinate efforts to draft a statement of work which will be the town's contract essentially with each of the vendors that will set forth how the system will launch in belmont and then how it will be managed  operated here in town that is still in draft form it's been sent to town council for their review waiting to hear back on council before i send it off to the two fingers for their review and comment was the rationale for the two vendors c felt that the system would function better if it was sort of a market based approach where they were competing that way they would be as a device to all for a better price if writers had the option of choosing one or the other they also felt that just one company might not have the ability to function at a regional level and so having the two companies there was a better likelihood that there would be enough bikes on the ground to be able to service the entire region  there the launch approach is being done in phases so each municipality is able to launch as they are ready malden has already launched and launched back in early may they were able to launch pretty quickly because they did a pilot program last summer with lime bikes that they pretty much had all of the kinks ironed out and were familiar with line bike and so they were able to go ahead and launch i provided in your packets some of the data that line bike makes available to  heat map of streets that writers are using when they're on the bikes you can see the number of rides per day over the lifetime the average ride time in their average right distance so going forward will have this type of data available to us that will help hopefully inform future planning decisions that are related to modes share and bicycle infrastructure if you give us figures for it but looks like one month no you know one month five nine lifetime and among that actually includes the pilot program that malden did last year yes so they're a little bit higher than just us they're seeing almost two hundred fifty right today that's right that's right fifty seven hundred f the the in tips for these types of systems is sort of the last mile first mile if you live beyond a mile from a transit stop you're not as likely to use transit but if you can kind of complete that last mile first mile it gets your other major open issues on the contracts or is it really just red lining small pretty much red line and yes i've met with both vendors independently and shown them the direction that i was going and they feel pretty comfortable with it so it will just be based on what town council says back since it would just be red lining and sort of fine tuning right you don't need any dust to do anything at the moment nope not at the moment i just wanted to make you aware of one stand solution thank you for bring in the bike are you leaving the bike somewhere people can see it or yes it's typically in the home or building i brought it over the past couple days just to have it on display here i was originally going to lock it and leave it out front during the day but then i realized if you have the apt you could come along and unlock it right off with it so where they are right legally obviously into something legal that's right that's right but so there's i think that there might be an equilibrium there will always be a benefit of having the docking systems but having doctors spikes as well as will we launch with so initially it'll be thirty for bikes seventeen for each vendor and then the way that i am structuring this statement of work is that there will be an one hundred eighty day three phase roll out during that time they'll have to prove that they've been able to manage the current fleet and if there's been user demand to then increase the bikes during that first those three days and we can also see how they're doing i mean if there's a bike that's illegally left somewhere and they don't come and pick it up in a prompt fashion will wipe them out that's and if we're not happy with them any more than they're not happy with us exactly do we get visibility into complaints from members of the community that have a bike left on their lawn or is that all just go through so the goal is that it would all go to the vendor so that they're responsible for managing that fleet i would anticipate that we would hear about it if it was an an issue but the hope is that the town will be burdened with managing that sort of day to day operations but at least in the initial pilot phase it would be nice to know whether or not there's a significant number of issues or not absolutely sure that data with us and that's something that i could definitely put in the statement of work that we would like to be kept abreast or have weekly or monthly updates on with i'm going t they been seeing any issues like that they actually they had someone in town who was against the program and that was going through town knocking the bikes over and moving the bikes there is nice yes so they've they've had to respond to that type of proposed template so there isn't as extensive as an a p c the fact that they went through it as a trial program and they're willing to do that tells me that it went pretty well exactly because if there were problems i'm sure they would have really dug down deep on that right jump over to the incinerator site discussion financial task force discussion because those were just items that were on here as kerio first of all were there anybody who wanted to speak on the dock list bikeshare i forgot to say ok seeing them because we talked and we had a meeting last friday where we were talking about getting ready for the june eighteenth forum about post closure use of the incinerator site look who walks and mr clancy and the likewise we were talking about the financial times with the center and their coming july thirtieth so the column center will be presenting their results of their analysis this is the analysis the help we got for financial best practices and financial forecasting through the community compaq grant the patrice got us in their first week on the job right and so they're going to be presenting the results on june thirtieth of the board of selectmen meeting if anybody out there watching wants to hear the call and centers recommendations and results and presentation of the tool that they're coming up with that we can then us getting ready for that meeting the big public forum the way that the public knows again if they're watching on friday morning at eight am is that we were envisioning this as something where the public would come and put out ideas we'd have like a board where we could write them down the ideas to get us sort of a finite universe of ideas and then we can start working on them maybe the various whoever people are the propre people to work on each one of them and whittle them down because at some point i'm sure some of them are just simple nonstarters and some of them are going to be competing interests with each and at some point we're going to have to narrow it down and have a sort of process where we end this and we pick one and we talked about a number of them but the public is clearly invited june eighteenth the town hall editorial at eight pm to bring your ideas we definitely wide traffic discussion again we're talking about the town why traffic discussion not bomb on high school traffic discussion the town wide traffic discussion glenn you here for that want to come on  this was the initiative that the segment asked traffic advisory committee to take on some months ago about traffic in town in general and how ideas and things that could be done to try to address that to the extent we can because it was obviously significant steps that have been undertaken so far in the town white study the first one was using why fight technology was tracking vehicles as they moved through the town of belmont where they entering where are they leaving where along the way have they been picked up in this in this sort of dragnet that we set up to monitor their movements so that that piece of it is done with the consultant has been in ally's ing that data one of the interesting points that we've discussed and i haven't seen  report yet and nothing's really been finalized in terms of the presentation on this so i want people i want people to think that there's something out there yet it's really still being compiled but one of the observations that struck me was i've always kind of worked off of this  this idea that vehicles were jumping off of route to grabbing park avenue grabbing pleasant street the data seems to be indicating that in fact the traffic is coming out of our winter across a down on park avenue coming out of arlington o that gets to the second part of it that's that's the that's the phase they're doing right now i say i know it's a good segue it's a great segue actually so the so the next phase the phase that is currently being done is belmont police has been station officer at certain locations throughout the town that are consultants has asked for them to be stationed at during the morning peak hour in the afternoon peak hour and they've been capturing license plates and they've they've been running the license plates strictly to get the city where the with a vehicle is registered so that we can begin to compile a database on exactly who these cars are that are on the streets of belmont so i think they've got about another week i think they were for as of friday they were four location s left that they that they wanted to monitor they had already monitored i want to say roughly eight to ten already and so that's that is the next piece of the data gathering so that is ongoing  alternately what i envision in this report is obviously you know identifying all this data that was captured and how to make some sense of it and then you know begin to have a discussion on how to mitigate the impacts one of the things that we're coming to realize is there's really no effective way to reduce or eliminate the volume that's coming into town the volume is a regional issue it's not something that the town of beaumont's going to be able to to regulate at its borders patrice and i actually spent the morning this morning with senator brown's brother in waverly square looking at the traffic patterns through a risk way because you know paul will he made a he made a speech a time reading and he talked about traffic in his in phone's been ringing off the hook ever since and so patrice and i met him in waverly square this morning and you know it's apparent it's a volume issue a consultant was there as well sam from the b s c group and he said you know their projections roughly volumes up about ten percent from that from what it was a few years ago so that's a significant when you're talking in waverly square thirty thousand cars a day coming into waverly square and you haven't had any yeah and so you had a ten percent factor on top of that that's an awful lot of vehicles and so i think you know what i'm hoping to do with the data that's been gathered for the town why it is begin to identify where the traffic is why it's there and and then start to come up with some ideas of how to mitigate the impact of that if there's an inordinate amount of traffic that's finding its way into the neighborhoods you know do we do we restrict that access do we do we implement some kind of physical you know obstruct out obstructions but you know some some of the physical m whether it's speed tables or something along those lines i think that's the next step as we have a week that data is to fact you know come up with a plan to mitigate the impact of that can i ask a part of that data gathering that we also are going to be collecting from  history is important because how history is one of the data points that you look at when you're evaluating whether it's appropriate for example to put a fully stop intersection in place one of the one current stat that you evaluate is the accident history over a five year period which is boston that's right that's right so thank you for the update i guess one of the questions that i would toss out to you glen and i guess to the rest of the board is as we think about implementing some of these solutions there are definitely some hot spots for different communities different parts of town you know is there some value in us perhaps putting together some working groups gravey maybe they're kind of tied to different parts of town to try to go through and  evaluate the various different solutions and try to put together some recommendations for how to tackle them certainly tack obviously is a big part of that but i wonder if it makes sense you know to bring together certain community members that may not be currently represented on tack certain areas and i think it certainly is challenging brighton to do think about the go industry neighborhood or maybe opportunity to bring together a mix of various different folks there that are impacted by that traffic area because to get your thoughts on whether or not those working groups would be affected yeah look i think at some point well first of all as we look to mitigation and we look at developing a tool box that we can use to mitigate these impacts alternately funding's going to be a question and we think that put fleet street is going to be a good opportunity for us to get funding for the town but one of the hooks to complete streets is you have to come up with the universe of projects and you have to prioritize those projects and so at some point there's going to have to be some resident interaction in that process because i know that i don't want to be in a vacuum prioritizing projects and i would advise the town a ministry that she doesn't want to be in that vacuum either is only going to be great to get a  that regard one of the things that we have to develop is the criteria that will use to evaluate these projects there has to be some kind of a process that's stablished so that we don't end up  you know we don't end up trying to think of a small street without offending anyone i got you know a couple months terrorists so we don't end up treating a belmont terrorist like a wave of the street there has to be some process that sort of weeds out that you know the roads that are not as impacted to move from the roads that are being impacted and then developing a criteria and as i said a tool box i mean are we looking strictly at speed tables are we looking at some kind of a mid block bump out that forces traffic to right now that traffic has a two two lane with on a roadway do we put out official bump out in so that if there's traffic coming from both directions one car has to slow down and yield to the other one coming through that's a technique that the city of cambridge uses to me intuitively you'd have to have enough traffic to make that worthwhile because you'd want that opportunity with ongoing traffic to have to stop in the old if there's only one car on that day an hour on that road per hour they're going to blast right through that thing so maybe spee is a better solution on a road like that so it sounds like you know i mean you did a good job coming up with the draft of the sidewalk policy so it's sort of a larger version of that if you will sort of object of criteria because that's the way you don't get in trouble there's no favoritism nobody feels like they're not being heard there's an object a set of criteria and we applied equally to everybody and i think that's how you have to but i think you did see tack in the board of selectmen in collaboration with community development defining that yeah that you could actually go out to individual communities where some local knowledge of what happens in those parts of town may help you evaluate the various different options that's against that you're exactly right you know there's that was set up the objective rules and then there are the facts on the ground and you're right i mean glenn may not get complaints from a neighbor doesn't mean that there aren't problems or just means they're not complaining but i think the times when we should be proactive especially if we like the path to doing something which is better than what we've been doing before it was not for me as i don't know whether you cut down on cut through what you might sort of what you certainly can do is you know have traffic mitigation in place to for pedestrian safety and vehicle safety that that's during the school year you've got a fair number of residents who are on the streets of belmont driving from school to school in the teeth of a wave of commuter traffic that is trying to get through belmont and you know if school started at ten o'clock in the morning i'm not sure we'd be hearing a lot of complaints about traffic because they do there would be no struggle to get those kids to school you're hearing complaints from parents well different type of complaint that we have and so yeah so yeah mark i think you're right i think i think that's the challenge everyone drives in town to they would have three four five cars in their driveway so creating an alternative modes of transportation for them or access points across the tracks these are way to cut through because i don't know whether  behavior of the young to residents or whomever but and beyond that want to get the boss and not stay in with who would find it or go to ninety three and feel k through belmont the best route for them right and once again the fact that they have to cut through belmont center and deal with that every morning that's right you can have it doesn't seem to getting and whether expanding that would or would not get more utilization i assume right now it's just for residents at the royal belmont but it is an opportunity to get data about people who might be interested in  that way to get cars off the road and and also i'm curious if your police observers license plates are  getting the license plates of right chair organization you know people who are more like lift and lift a nuber kind of things how does that influence your data and how are those trends changing  and there may be other vans that are going through town i don't know whether the police are capturing those but i know there are a bunch of one twenty eight businesses that have their own bands i don't know how i haven't seen them in belmont per se but but  and then just second the motion and school and commuters if one of them went away or shifted in time that that's that's what brighton street is in my neighborhood all about is kids being driven august when september hits again we're going to be in the thick of it again and i'd love to make sure that there's good momentum so the good point traffic advisory committee is meeting thursday night the consultants will be present to talk about study that's ongoing so i'm hoping at that time we'll get an idea of what the schedule looks like to complete that you know as i've said a couple of times through these public hearings myself the traffic advisory committee we recognize that the traffic is a problem today and that this is not a conversation that will have a set of solutions that will be deferred until high school is constructed i mean this conversation will occur and as we can begin to address issues better kate bone who is on the school committee does a lot of work has a lot of interaction with safe routes to school and walk boston ran into her friday she's going to be getting me the reports from walk boston apparently they evaluated the school walking routes for all of our schools and belmont and so on i'm eager to go through that information and see if there are projects that jump out of there that could become a complete street project so i think there's a lot of things that we're going to be doing over the next year or two in advance of the high school construction but i'll have a better idea on the town white stuff come thursday night and depending on how the conversation goes on thursday night there actually may be some recommendations before this boy next monday night i mean this is the the reason it's like when you gave this before you were on the board just like we gave us the traffic advisory was because we don't want to wait for the high school project where this is a town why did was not related to high school and going to fill but one of one of the things i'm eager to get them to act on is related to the high school project he will be meeting thursday night actually so i did want to squiggly say that the traffic advisory committee has been very responsive to our request for some time and so we've just kind of recently learned of the in the kind of go straight impact on on the high school the potential of that and so my wife and i have spoken out i think about twenty five households on hillcrest and cedar and long and golden and what's really come out of that more than i think anything and more than the interplay between high school and the streets is existing concerns about the traffic and the number of students on the streets and so i just wanted to let you all know that's kind of a primary concern of a lot of people in that community and so we look forward to talking about that on thursday night and seen what measures might be taken in the near term on that so and in particular just i think you know there's as you know by virtue is where the schools are located it's kind of a  on the same neighborhood a funnel a fun otherworld there so you know and and just the fact that he looked kind of goes up to thirty like right as you kind of enter into that zone it's just one thing that perhaps we can we can cure but so thank you but to enjoy what we have here in town in order to reduce pollution from jet travel which is probably our major pollution source in town and beyond even cars it just wasn't counted by the energy committee and our prize winner selected the plan the prize was to plant a tree and they selected to plant a lie like bush which we did two years ago and graciously accepted that donation we just thought we don't need a second i like bush for the town green next the wellington station and look forward to it flowering next spring because is the time of the year when the board begins to take up in the appointments to various boards the key is in town this year we are introducing a model that will make the appointment process more efficient and timely on the website there is a place to click and begin to apply for  going to be hearing a lot from us to please step up this town is basically run by a lot of volunteers on various committees on every conceivable subject one of which i'm sure tickles your fancy you can go on the website to see the list of all the committees and you can submit the in the application what your top three choices would be and then we will be taking those up and you submit that along with the resume we're going to be happy to have your input in your interest and we're always looking for diversity of hoping it's really up to the board on this my first process my first run with it so i'm told that you do mostly your appointments in july we start and we get we get the big book of everyone who applied late july and then recently in august because things are quieter so in august we will have the thirtieth and sometimes for a bigger committee will interview our people about it on a plane we have order something but for smaller committees we generally don't get interviews coordinated with the moderators appointments to things like the work committees not because  committee or a building committee we don't appoint them the time moderator does but as you heard time mr state she would be happy to for that along if that's one of your top three choices don't feel like you can't put it on the form but definitely and if you are on the committee and you know people who'd be really good you'd like to serve with get them to apply review i have attached a note from the border health director that gives an update on local tobacco regulations the board of health seeks to adopt a ban on sales of tobacco products in health care institutions to cap the number of tobacco retailers in town and to restrict the number of shot the next port of health meeting is scheduled for it's actually july sixteenth where they will discuss tobacco they had originally done the twentieth but they didn't have enough time by folks that if you don't respond it's not it clearly states here that it in fact is yes and it's sort of like if you think if i when i mark up the minutes of the meetings of the my notes on the minutes i can't send them to you outside of a meeting in advance of the meeting even with no comment just to look at them because i'm giving you my opinion yes the minutes right away i can only do it while we're sitting here and i can give you every seed e mails dozens of e mails in the past from former colleagues of this board in a lot along those lines i think it might be helpful to ask george hall to help clarify a couple of things i was in a committee meeting this morning the high school building committee's communication subcommittee and that's a group that actually does a lot of work collaborating on messaging documents so documents would go out to the community updates on various different all my school building committee activities this is a answer the answer is clearly no then the question becomes how do you do even some of the basic function you have staff to when this was what was clear so for committees that don't have staff it's unclear how certain certain things get accomplished they were maybe have doesn't questions that came up in the course of that discussion in the west coming out of that group was could we perhaps put these and ask for his time making recommendations for how to go about doing just some of the basic activities there are certain committees the last twenty four hours from groups that i work with about how this is to be done effectively and i think it would be helpful to get some of those questions from those volunteers and put the front tank out you find compassion but we always want to do the right thing so i don't think that that would be a problem plumbing and electrical separately because they couldn't do them at the same time and the neighbors one of the wires underground so this is them putting the wires underground so i understand it's disruptive but if they want the wires underground it's the only way it's going to happen so it's a good answer for that community substantive i'm just sort of filling in the air so i move approval of all the minutes is stated as revised by chair of the we also it was so we had april twelfth i'm so i think i forgot one june fourth two thousand eight hundred regular session so april