fire warden because after twenty five years dave tillotson is going to retire and we certainly thank you for your longevity and service in the town certainly appreciate all the time and so you're going to with pretty much everything which was good it was on the same page he also stated that some towns do incorporate their own ordinances they develop more above and beyond what's what but that you know jericho pretty much just hold a church service and a barbecue for our church and the reason we're doing that is that our church is growing to the point where we have two services now all the time and we'd really like to have one service all together and an hour and a half church service from ten to eleven thirty and then we have a barbecue after that and we clean up and i know one thing we do which is really want to be respectful of the community and we have a purpose in doing this is to be able to be all together and so you know having sound that enables everyone to hear but not be disruptive fall to the other other members of the community we i think their member of people we'd expect to have would be between one hundred fifty and and when we've had i mean in the past every summer we've we've been able to squeeze everyone in because we've we've combined our services for the summer and last summer we just felt like it was getting too too tricky and the parking was more and more of an issue and that was actually using it for and you get it for the entire day but you have to truck in a truck yeah and you can't park on the inside the park at all but you can drive people who are need amenable to us using the green if we just like it's like we had a church service inside and we just squeeze like we normally do and then we just kind of spill out onto the green for a barbecue later that's probably if in terms of the town that would make more sense ok because i can i can so ok so that would be your preference as like to do it that way have their service and sign it because i think we could do it and it just is tight but it's one time and then we can maybe do the barbecue kits and we have access to our kitchen and it just makes it easier but if we want to do everything outside or just check in the river right that seems like your preference ok yeah that's great all right and an event naming the town of jericho as an additional insured spirit no cords going across the road ok this really you know i would you know thinking of the logistics and the number of people who are going back and forth and stuff if they decide to come to the town they would probably need to come to us and ask about closing the that one section of the road that's right in front of the church because that would that would reduce the safety issues much like we did for the town and so the people unfortunate for  is going to be closed between x hours and x hours things like that that would i think be the safest way if you're going to be ok doing something like that i think that's a good i think you might want to go outside live to about three hours know i don't think you need to be any more than that because that's that's pretty much what we did for the town and then ok three hours yeah and i mean that way they can i mean you can be inside or they can be outside and i don't think people would stick around for a lot longer than just but i'm here tonight which i'm very happy about and i'm sure thought it's two and i'm going to present these together there's a lot of the same information for example within the existing conditions so i thought it would be easier to do them both at the same time and it will make more sense once i get rolling here this is our roadmap for the presentation tonight and we'll come back to this slide as we hit each of these bullet points just so we know where we are in the presentation and to get a started we'll talk about the project purpose for the transportation study we first wanted to assess the existing system figure out what's happening out there on the roadways now and then evaluate the future conditions so what's going to happen with expected anticipated development throughout the town and what does that look like in terms of capital planning for the town we should be thinking about financially and piece of infrastructure and for the bike pead plan centrally we want to find out what's on the ground right now in terms of existing infrastructure figure out who who are walkers and bikers are and what their different needs might be and then develop a list of projects to help meet their needs and desires you'll see the list of five bullets under the need  a fight in the plan currently the town has a little more than two miles of sidewalks primarily in the village centers so there are some more opportunities to expand the walking network in terms of biking the roadway shoulders could be wider in places to more safely and accommodate more cyclists if the network is built out a little bit more there's a greater connection to local destinations people are more able to get to where they want to go and if that jericho becomes even more of a local destination for people to come to park a car walk or bike around the area and then finally the last bullet just makes jericho more livable if people can choose to walk and bike more  places sort of a sketch of what the different plans look like this isn't a full table of contents that's in there bitches shows what we looked at in terms of demographics how things are operating what we hope to come out with the with road surface management plan and then for both with the capital funding picture looks like and the implementation picture for the bike had planned so we're going to start to jump into those and that brings us to the existing conditions on the transportation side of things and also the bike had side of things we looked at the entire town didn't focus on a particular area we did focus on the three village centers in addition to the whole town and you'll notice that there are twelve specific intersections called out throughout the denied by town staff and are playing consultant says let's focus on the impacts to those as we evaluate the future conditions and we'll we'll revisit those intersections as i go on through this presentation population i'm sure are familiar with the current status of the town you're a little bit over five thousand folks which is a great projection so that you'll grow a little bit in the next five years or so which will put you just a little bit more over five thousand folks  sixty four miles of paved and gravel roads combined we looked at the roadway where it's a right of way with it's who owns what how fast people can go right now with the different volumes and safety conditions look trans fifteen n one seventeen which means there are no class one town highways in town the town hasn't taken on those responsibilities for those roads so the primary primary transportation corridors for a little bit fewer miles of paved mileage three thirty miles paved thirty four miles gravel again all emphasize that more clear maps are in your hand out there if you want to look out but i think pictures are better look out than words on slides anyway in terms of pavement condition we use what's called the pavement condition index and that's a scale that we use to assess the roadway surface conditions one hundred would be a freshly paved section of roadway and zero or one would be basically it's failing here you're at the end of it's useful life we did this for both the paved road ways and the great gravel roadways  the overall p c i score for the paved road races sixty eight you'll see that's just at the top end being considered fair and just under satisfactory and for gravel roads you're looking volumes would look like throughout town this is just north of li river road taken from two thousand and eleven but it's a general representation of what you would see throughout the town you'll see that the morning and afternoon rush hour commute are where the peaks are and we see a lot of people passing through town rather than the town being the destination which is why you see those bumps in there in terms of heavy truck traffic volumes similar peaks although the afternoon peak is a little bit earlier in the day rather than when people are typically getting off of work does that mean here you are your relatives somewhere more or less t is the annual average daily traffic and again i apologize for folks if the numbers are hard to read but i wanted to provide you a snapshot of the checkpoints that we had in terms of traffic and these were represent what you'd see out there today your highest values are on them on fifteen near the two top lines with the borders of underhill and essex your lowest ones raceway road or road and again the color coding on the map is a good representation of where you're going to see most of that traffic occurring you know i was surprised and i'm sure the people in labor you know confirm it but i didn't because i drive down the river a lot and it doesn't seem like it's that you know heavily trafficked into me the same classification is grounds for trees you know it's all right and you know when you consider that this represents a twenty four hour period yeah generally you know it's the speaking volumes of people going through intersections some of them have separate turn lanes some of them don't and then for those intersections they were evaluated for level of service and that is that is how you an operational how they function in terms of the drivers perspective how long are you waiting at an intersection to be able to make your turning movement or how long does it take you to travel a road we cored or there is no there is no right answer for this so what often happens is the state agency a travel teams transportation is your route they choose what the appropriate levels of service would be for an urban roadway or a roadway and that chart on the bottom the shows what is acceptable and what's considered long and everything is functioning pretty well in jericho except for the one intersection that i bolted from vermont fifteen of the road has a very long delays there environment that might be acceptable if you have fleet free flowing traffic l o s a or b if you have too much roadway there's too much free flow and so you want to little bit level of congestion because you're in effect getting the most out of your infrastructure that you  safety is a key as a key component of what we want to look at there's a snapshot of the secure ports from the past five years most almost two thirds of the crashes are either a single vehicle crash or rear end in terms of high crash locations and those are designated by the state you don't have any crash intersections but you do have a couple of segments of roadway that are does a good high crash and we'll on in terms of existing conditions for the bicycle pedestrian network again you've got two point three miles of sidewalks and generally good condition most of those are fairly new and what our staff did was used for adapted the p c i scoring to the sidewalk network so they went out and for a concrete sidewalks did a slab by slab analysis of that for asphalt sidewalks they broke it up into segments and at that point and again that's in the appendices we have it's a lot of data points it's something that chris and our interns developed and we hope to deploy throughout the other towns and counties we think it's really useful for them to really get a handle on what their infrastructure looks like i believe with that and then you to jericho center path you have the beginnings of path network separate offered path network which is healing i see yeah and when you think about walking and biking you want to consider where people coming from and where they typically headed to and who are they are within the town that people might want to access easy mocking or biking to keep destination points and i just had to top a few of bigger print outs of maps such as this that that you guys can look at of the trails committee can sort of mark up as you wish and we're happy to provide additional copies of whatever feeling we can just in addition to what's on the ground right now there are some planned enhanced minutes later scoping one and the final pieces and looking at the existing transportation system we have transit service through the town and while there are no formal parking rights within the town there are some just be on the town boundaries and we do have the stop in the riverside area there which brings us to dishes so the consultant did in partnership with todd engine when she was here was took a look at what is development in the year twenty thirty five look like and what is the appropriate level of this isn't a full build out analysis of if we built everything we possibly could this is based on the recent past what can we realistically expect to be developed in the year twenty thirty five  applied that to all the zoning districts to see what trips during the am and pm peak hour that we can see the anticipated development what sort of trips and where they're going to happen throughout the network and again looking at those twelve intersections how it's specifically impact those there are in the plants it's a really interesting i think more charts like this i just chose this one because it shows the total number of anticipated trips from that build out  twenty thirty five there is a little bit deeper dive within the report and again this is a snapshot from the appendix but what our s g did was they took for each zoning district they took the anticipated number of trips to be generated and distributed them on the network so for example this is the agricultural zone map you'll see that in the morning there it is being sixty trips being generated and in the afternoon rush hour there looking at seventy three trips those are both going into a site and leaving the site and you have three different designated ags own districts and so they had to decide where are the bulk of those going to happen and distribute those because you would have them all coming or going from one sector of roadway so i use the bottom left as an example you'll see there's two different yellow twenty percent circles and a ten percent to thirty percent circle above the millbrook label so in the southwestern eggs on quadrant since that's the biggest ag zone they anticipate the seventy percent of the expected trip generation would happen there not only that but they looked at where they would expect those trips to be going in and out of so that they expect twenty percent would be  so it wasn't just we have fifteen hundred ninety trips that we're expecting and are going to be on the network this shows where those might be expected due to the gro in addition you know with future growth plans future church in originally on the network but just in terms of annual average daily traffic i was looking at just sort of the ones that are thirty percent increases fifteen to underhill town line and skin color road those are where you'll likely see the greatest increases in that  and again that brings us back to level of service so with the increases in a d t we're going to see we want to take a look at what that would do to those twelve intersections and whether it would anticipate any congestion on the roadway corridors and these are the seven locations where you would likely see some issues arise from the anticipated development so the first four are intersections that you'll see some congestion issues so they apply at all the numbers  you'll have level of service impacts in those areas and some recommended improvements some from previous scoping studies some from potential future scoping studies numbers five and six  are a couple those intersections that have some safety issues and then seven is the browns trace lee river road intersection where the flat iron is that it has some interesting stock control movements now there are some recommendations in here of course about what we can do and these are the expected levels of service right now those function fine except for vermont fifteen river road so it's now  aff and you'd expect that to continue in the future the dickinson street scoping study did say that a traffic signal would improve that condition the other three intersections those are listed enough if those improvements that you see were made it would likely bring them up to a level of service b or c which improves sight distance for everyone at that stop similarly at barber from road to just realize the intersection so it's more traditional t be greater visibility directions  and this is the brown strace lee river road intersection they recommended a different stop control that's because the river with the truck route the track for milk because of all the farm so it was actually the heavier used road and there are people in town now we see want to keep it because it's historic that's a you know historic slip lane where others that i know are would love to see their own about the roundabout but i mean the way you have it s as you would expect are between the three there are other desirable improvements to be made particularly for on road cycling in those again we would likely be wider shoulders but could be separated off road path probably is probably look and then these are three different scenarios what the improvements could look like the top one is just a striped paved shoulder so it's basically just a fog line that would separate cyclists from automobile traffic as have recommended wittes depending on the volume and type of roadway that it is the one of the middle is just a shared lane so there is no stripe between people who bike it people who drive again it depends on the volume and speed of traffic on a roadway that would be part of the turning factor and then the bottom line is the shared these paths cross section for that and there are many resources out there to help  slow down visually i mean i don't get it just seems like if there was no bike there people going twice the speed limit and then all of sudden there's a butt in the nose and there's a place and well again you consider and what type of road you would consider doing that and now building on the future conditions let's go to the capital planning so we talked about these seven potential improvements again the first four are specific intersection improvements and additional lanes or traffic signal  most of these could advance to the scoping phase either through the regional planning commission or via trans likely through us and then a potential cost for those and these are just estimates and that cost is an estimate of not only the scoping study it's sort of the for the full package from scoping to construct on the ground to get five and six or there's realignment should there's australians they did it also had to do with you know different issues that we were talking about that it was more like they were going away for us to do something now there was a are working on the you know we have a grant to do the hybrid overhead beacon what if they call it now down at the river road charlie intersection so it's but this is this this change in the pedestrian might that we're going with the the little medians in the i guess they're going to redo some of that intersection anyway in terms of that is part of the turning so that may help an your pavement conditions so rather than fix the worst roads first that's not really the best use of public funds so you typically want to maintain roads that are in fair to good condition the last longer it costs less of the long term and i want to show that because we used all right she refused the paper condition index numbers  and sort of whatever system they have a paper management system and they can plug those in and they typically focus on not the local roads but the more heavily used road so on call and so on and look at what pavement management techniques would make the most efficient and best use of town funds to keep roads in good condition and make improvements to those so the last longer and cost less in the long term and so this is just a quick look at their recommendations again this analysis is included in the appendix a you can read more about their process and there are some maps so for each year that they have listed there's a map attention to keeping it in good condition because if you're if it's nearly failing and you just keep putting money into it you say you was raising money because you're not getting it back up it's better to just tear it out at some point it's better to let it fail and then rep important because we that's what you hear people on those little boat say oh my dad who is failing in the thing we understand you know that you have to allocate your dollars pro create lee and so we're just simply into this particular aspect of it which will be a more thorough investigation of where town the town can best use its resources for a structure but i'll wait on that but again you have a five year painting plan which will put you in good shape for a little while in addition to what i talked about at the end in terms of walking and biking infrastructure this is a look at what the road shoulder improvements would look like in potential cost for those  again this is the total cost on the right is anywhere from includes from the scoping all the way to construction so it's the full picture cost right there you get it was a scary looking at that after you think there was a presentation  years applying for different funding that you only have to match makes it a little bit more palatable yeah absolutely and then this this helps you know we start with this and then we look at our right well what are our show the three areas connecting the village centers those are key areas and as it contributes to building out that networking we come up with the recommendations which are the asterix on the right side there so point you in the right direction in terms of what would be most useful for the town and again this is for the wide road shoulders do the same exercise for patent sidewalks again looking at the desired projects there what the next step engineering with the full scope being soup to nuts cost would be and then along that what are the priorities there using the same sort of metrics and in addition to invest seeing the funding into those types of infrastructure there are other things the town can do using local dollars you can strive for roads and different ways to get different lane wittes if you have a really wide travel you can narrow them down to provide a wider shoulder so the foot on the left there that's just a rubber temporary speed table if you have some roads that you want to call traffic or see what that impact would be like you could put those down  gateways we had dan burton come out here a while back and he talked a lot about the importance of gateways and a slowing people down in the greater speed feedback i put example of a trailer but they also  have this post mounted signs you can do you have it by the school i think which generally are effective some things you put up and people forget about them or ignore them two weeks later but these have a little bit lasting more lasting yeah and then how are we going to pay for it right that's a question as you would expect to tell because certainly pay for as much or as little as you wish to r p c is also a funding source for example for the scoping projects we can work with you through the process to scope something in particular if you have a project that you do want to build we have a sidewalk grant program which is our only smallish part of funding that can be used to build something the trans has the bike had you had those in the past two so there's a number of ways to go about it and we can always help you i know todd's good about writing and receiving grants but we can always help you know if you just don't have the bandwidth at that time we can help you with that so the punchline to all this trans has asked all the regional planning commissions to pick him is a palli and work with them to do a capital improvement program by september one we had bull since i knew that they were working on that but they just don't have the capacity right now to take this on i thought this may be the right time and place for us to build on on the work that we have so that stable sheet that i handed out talks more about what the trans is interested in seeing from us and so i want to put that to you and you don't have to answer now you can get a look and see if it's interested but of i think i think we have a lot of data that we need to based on that and also looking at the bridges in taking the reports we get from the state and trying to figure out you know a longer term plan for smaller type improvements over sometimes you might if it's true that something can cost you if you do it today it's one hundred dollars of a kosher if you wait three years it's going to cost you three hundred dollars and interest you can you can buy one for like three percent why wouldn't you always do everything at the optimum point i mean if it really cost that much at a time when you can buy something for three percent why would you ever and we're not talking about our local it well that's how you can get we can do more of that if we avoid paying three hundred dollars for something that should of course one hundred dollars and we can have more of the things we want as opposed to just catching balls before they hit the floor well we knew we needed you know drilling down to getting it know she thought she'd be in town and you know so did she call you she did she said she wasn't sure she didn't mean i'm ok to do the own thing but that she'd let us know formally and i didn't get an email where she'd be here so i guess maybe she decided ok ok so we'll start with where did you put chad we've i guess we'll start with david because he's on the agenda but  well we're doing for all of you can come up but i won't let you know when she comes at the chair but every candidate we're asking two questions and then whatever is individualized but everybody we have asked to  answer why you want to serve on this committee and then what skills are you going to be able to bring to this committee because this is a very important committee and people are going to need to do a lot of homework i mean the twelve hundred dollars that was allocated to tell me before consultant is not going to go that far and people are going to need to be able to understand financials across different fire department schematics and to evaluate the pros and cons of different forms of fire departments and you know whether it's municipal or a fire district or you know a different form of not for profits that we thought you know having two uniform questions as well as individual eyes it's going to help  thing and then also sort of benchmark it to other departments the cost benefit yeah and the county why i'd like to be on the committee is because i served on department for twenty years and i was the rank of first assistant chief and i used to do a lot on the budgets with the fire and present it to jericho for a number of years i know well how it's put together and how the fire department is run and i think because of that i can look at the underhill jericho fire department and i can look at other departments to see how they function and their cost compared lead to jericho where others might not be able to and the fact that i think you've got to consider in cost of each department how it's run you've got to know what you're getting for service as well and i think i can bring that to the table and i am very curious and being part of it would be more beneficial to myself is it well run or is it not well the fire department and i think it been talked about a number of years and i think that i would satisfy my own questions on the situation  so you so can i just ask you clarifying question about that so you're curious yourself about whether or not you have questions of your own about the the operations and you in you would like to use of employment on this committee as a way of exploring that or analyzing that or well i always figure when i was on the fire department and through twenty years of service that jericho fire department was well run it was well run and the fact that their training was some of the best in the state of the us was in their graded for example one of the things the fire department just did was their rating is better for insurance because of how much water they can put on to a fire for certain length of time and so forth and i think by my understanding the fire department once served there i can look at the level of service because it isn't just the cost it's what we good right for that cost but maybe when we it was all figured out for example that we figure the cost might be too high the fire department as if we took that scenario and then we take the level of service and maybe we shouldn't try to strive for such an extra level of service or at least look at that or something so i think my knowledge of being on the department as well as the other things i think it would be very good because i understand that and like i said i had the questions myself of how well are you know rated in the end you know is it they the best for the bang for the buck or when you look at all the other departments and how they're run i think some of the cost they're very hidden in some towns for example capital expenditures and other things but yet we still might be without a line or maybe we are not i mean we're very well run like i said i have the same interests myself to see that but i think i have a lot that i could bring to the table by being part of it at one time and my interests of the town i don't want to pay more bags it right you know yes i mean that's i think one of the reasons the committee's going to now it is going to be a difficult decision because we have nine people for five slots so i mean and we've really been pleased with the quality of applicants for this i mean people are taking th very seriously but we will not be making a decision tonight because tim is asked for us to wait until he gets back into town we interviewed last two weeks fire protection and i've heard over the years and you know some people have been disappointed with the budget or the presentation or you know lack of transparency and i haven't personally felt it and i have you know  really been a big issue for me even when it came up at town meeting and civil is really about you know it's on the minds of a lot of people yeah and i just finished serving on the ship in these committee that looked at the school mergers and i  just love not just love the job of jumping into something and figuring out what the structure needs to be and you know i enjoy that work and i think this looks like a similar kind of a project it's you know time limited maybe a year or so an intense effort to get to know a part of the town and i think i have a lot to do i think i could contribute sounds like you know it sounds like an interesting and important project and i like to do jumping into an organization or a financial situation and trying to figure out what you know what the poor issues here are some of the strong financial skills of an m b a from cornell variables between the different departments and you know what's included and what isn't included and also i know i think of a pretty good idea when to ask for outside expertise and how to use that expertise because it's going to be important yeah and  you know to use that expertise efficiently i also feel strongly that this is not just a budget issue sure we can get a cheaper you know i'm sure we can get a cheaper service somehow but i think you know i think i think we need to know what we're paying and what we're getting and then we need to evaluate you know the value that we're getting i mean it's it's kind of a there's a folk room between what we're paying for service and and and what our insurance costs are and i you know i want to understand i want to understand that and i also think that you know sometimes it's the dog that doesn't bark that matters and when we look at a volunteer organization nonprofit versus one that reports of the town i think it's important to look at you know whether that means in terms of  department the decision to take on a public fire department would be a big one and i think it would have important implications in terms of sourcing volunteers and is being a private nonprofit an important issue in terms of attracting volunteers a dog that doesn't bark is basically we have a well staff ira department then and that's not something to be taken lightly and that has an enormous value so we can't just make a budget decision about whether something could be a little bit cheaper if we become a you know just a public entity and also i think i  think it's just a shame we got to this point where there is kind of a sense of mistrust and there is at i'd like to come out of this with some recommend however we go but some recommendations on how we can stablish some sort of you know regular and clearly understood way to improve we got to get to the point where everybody feels certainly more informed about decisions and why they've been made so that whatever it is we can be appreciative and a know a major effort that communication over the years or this is not an unsurprising place to be and happen overnight yet didn't help it happen overnight i think it's a you know i think of represents a great opportunity for the younger in the new leadership fire department to really become more established and well known to the you know to the town and  think we can establish a set of norms about how we work together going forward he one thing that is important to me and i want to serve i've got a good meeting scheduled in advance you know it's i can and you know i never miss meetings if they're planned in the future but  go now i'm going to be gone the first eighteen months of june i know this weekend i need to make a commitment for a week in july i mean i just you know i have a travel schedule i just need to know when to leave well i think there's people on other people that are did whether you would have the time to serve if if it was fourteen months of two meetings a month in the school and it was one wow i just need to know what it in and they can't be more frequently than every two weeks i nothing really new here bridge fifteen which is the one below the how week rodgers in the worst shape and that's one that i want to buy the reason i was asking andrew about looking at the bridges and figuring out you know what sort of work we can do on that bridge to buy some time because it's in the in the states program is a candidate project which means it's on the list to be considered to be moved up but they haven't made a decision yet as to you i mean with the next couple  months which bridges were moved from the candidate list to that kind of active working project last but you just need to do is saying because it is you know when it comes to the bridges you know that they have things that you can feel and other things that well you could you know kind of get maybe make it work but let me ask you what does it mean when the comment  four hundred forty thousand dollars and yeah the high the came in at four hundred fifteen thousand and change a little bit came in at three hundred seventy four thousand and thirty nine dollars and that was  again we're doing the river from lafayette down to meet cool ridge doing river road and then also cloverlea and then after july first we'll be doing brown's trace i was surprised at how fast governor perry disintegrated you know and went down in the ratings from two thousand and eleven to two thousand and fifteen it's just it's a section it's not the whole thing it's actually it's broken interest section just but it was surprising how yes i mean that was quite useful if excellent so where we've done the paving bid do we have any other business we have words to sign