space in general so the fact that we have the horses we have things set up around the entire space get a lot of people that are really interested in wooden some people that do woodworking themselves and it's always fun to discuss techniques and whatever with them it's been great also the to connect with artists that i hadn't met yet that live here in underhill and jackal that's really nice i moved to vermont we've been here about going on seven years and i have a background is in carpentry for most of my life i was a car finished carpenter and then anyway we moved here looking for some acreage and we have lots of trees and i have an art background too so i got creative with the wood we have here and started turning bowls and now i'm doing a little carving of bowls the wood i use is all mostly got on our property here and a lot of it's maple birch black cherry beach ash and i've even i've done some  maple from maples that have been tapped which have been kind of interesting to turn the tapping of the tree leaves black stains in the wood and sometimes you've even got the holes natural edges and i don't make really a standard you know utilitarian bowl you know most of them are a lot of them are meant more to be looked at probably i creation and then you would jump into the whole fabric glue and let it dry and you actually mold and sculpt fabric i don't styles i do as i do p m c which is precious metal clay jewelry i sculpt pendants fire them in the kiln and they come out as pure silver copper bronze and then also some mixed media paintings so i guess i do like color i do like texture i do like to play with glass most people are noticing the color  definitely and the texture some are noticing that some of the pieces have a darker theme a little bit they work with individuals who have experienced trauma and are healing from trauma so some of that comes through in the in the work around sort of how does one deal with the significant challenges of life but come out ahead i started creating in a lot of studio in my house for about three years ago i've never picked up a paintbrush never sc anything i never felt like i was worthy or going to for creative and i reached an age where i was like you know what everyone's creative anyone can do this and i'm going to create with just sort of joyous epic failure i was showing a bro range of work i mean obviously the alzheimer's work is here and it's been fun to talk about that but it's also been great to include some of the paintings and prints that i've made over the years especially because sometimes i got back into print making from major as an undergraduate and then i got a degree a doctorate in anthropology and style logical anthropology in medical anthropology so for a number of years but i had done until my mother had alzheimer's as i was the person at the college of medicine in charge of bringing humanities culture and diversity into the curriculum and then my mother moved in with us and i took a leave of absence to care for her and really got back to my artwork in creative writing and over the past three years the most gratifying thing has been that all those disparate threats really have just come together and the artwork and the anthropology and what i movement they certainly see movement and balance in the pieces they'll talk about them as certain characters that they might that they find similarities in the people that they know that sort of thing i teach our insane at high school and i teach overseas and so during the summer months i was able to do a lot of work on the house and since that house is starting to get a little bit tighter i've been able to focus back on the art and been producing a lot more work have a new website and everything and usually do the art hoppe every year in burlington and outdoor sculpture show in johnson when that happens that's usually about it and it's always on permanent display here and would certainly have people come by  by making appointments can come looking observe