i feel like we don't have anything in here i want to say i put it in action and say developed and ordinances just scourge transience populations from settling  just like i don't know i was i was a walker has been passing all these ordinances to make it difficult for people to live on the street and what i'm saying is that we should have a similar kind of ordinance passed here so it's difficult for you know without staff giving us guidance on how that little car it would have to be a policy all right well that's because that's not really what i mean i wasn't really i wasn't really trying to i mean it's a major concern look how big of a problem and as i was it's a huge huge problem i'm just trying to put the but to try to do what we can to manage the situation before stablished so and i'm not talking about people i'm talking about thousands of people travelling from the mainland over here because they can sleep on the beach that's what i'm talking about that's what we've got to make sure doesn't happen and what could happen not from you know that so and whether or not they're desirable we don't know but it concerns me it really does concern me so i would say it's not it should be addressed you know it's something that we should look at and how do you handle it it's up to the community thank you and since i have the mike i want to say one more thing was did i miss anything on homestead issues because if i did i would appreciate i would appreciate that they would let this board right here would let the community the homestead community know that discussion has been made about homestead issues thank  i the benefits that could occur and got on the plane with their last payment from where they came from thinking straight to hawaii because the benefit back each year for indigent were desirable so on in chapter nine we talk about health and social services also so i don't know if that is more of appropriate place to put and a well let me just say that if the codes and ordinances are too strong say something like develop management strategy to develop strategies to manage of i like to reflect that out also not just housing but also rental so there's a lack of housing choices a different price levels and housing sizes or lack of housing rental housing choices at different price levels and housing sizes that's on page sixteen fourteen issue number two line seven choices including ownership and rental at different price levels and housing sizes my addition would be after after that address is both ownership and rental affordability page sixty three the department does require lessees to obtain building permits as a kid mission of their lease we are working on some of the details of that language and taking another look at that but because of the existing constraints on d h h l as far as manpower to administer a building code that's why we defer to the county because we just don't have the resources to administer our own building code i think the c pac decided to put that language in to try to make that clear clearer but because it was determined to protect public health and safety that there needed to be at least meeting of two a building code now f d a change show had its own building code then we might be able to put in some more flexibility for lessees so i think that was the idea behind that language but it is actually a requirement on people's leases that they comply with all county codes  and land use there is no jurisdiction that's the solution that they can't well the county doesn't want to do it right they say you take it all or you don't apply any of it and so we're trying to just say ok at least you need to get a building permit order to put out the fire if if if the bear i mean i don't care if you know someone once you know rafters two by four tall feet on center that made a difference to me but if you put a person on top of that roof to put out a fire they're going to go through it point yes yes it was and that was an issue that we brought up and we spoke about and willing to know why that was why you on the roof trying to put out the fire i wouldn't even be on the roof i'll be on the ground there is a handout that was provided yesterday doesn't have green on it department of housing and human concerns additional comment so page six dash fifteen actions six point one basically their recommendation to the department is to add it now less partnerships to continue to implement a housing rehabilitation program including loans grants technical assistance and community outreach so essentially just a last one is six point two point zero four adding at the beginning to work with developers to support their efforts to sit here that last leverage in grants loans housing yes because i i'm ethical on page seven dash four for discussion purposes chair on action item seven point zero two and seven point zero seven development plans versus sub sub various descriptions or can planning department weigh in on what they want to do about that language i love it to say plan believe me but there are two different things i talked with guidelines there are going to be actual development plans which are the more likely you think of a traditional site plan where the ones in chapter six are broader what that means that there will be seams that are tied tied right so we have a subway description that has the intent of influencing policies and actions of the community plan and there's details regarding community design in there they would they would obviously you're saying they would they would correspond to these is that what you're saying be yes if you had something that was a detail if this was developed to go to that illustrating what what could  seven if that's the case then why don't we take this opportunity to take our dinner break the sea pack and we just finished up chapter seven so we're going to go to chapter eight but before we  so currently assess support the expansion of facilities and programs at u h m see them on the campus and you want to change that to say what you have written here which is support the expansion of facilities and programs at the u h m ok so does anybody have any objection to accepting that language into our plan i would propose a motion to accept the language that the killing has provided to us and out of the committee it's been second a discussion point four point zero eight continue to assess and provide recommendations and funding to eliminate achievement gaps in education for needlepoint ok so is that one issue exist for native point community but i also know those achievement gaps exist for many others in our community and i'm wondering if we might be able to include the rest of the people who suffer from the same achievement gaps in there or perhaps remove native hawaiian to make it more broad to cover those because i would i would like to see is be able to be inclusive of all of the all of the folks that have achievement gaps because there's all kinds of different ethnicities and socio economic and you know just getting more sustainable is highly dependent on us moving forward in this farming sector so you know i would be all in favor of that in that in so is everybody in agreement on that just one question on your action i don't even you thank you stacy for that so i think the recommendation is to leave it as an action item and then to have partners the maoi economic development board and the office of economic development there can help to make this know that one but there i want if you want more than enough to buy them it's up to you if you think there's something that's super important because we really appreciate you coming forward and bringing this to our attention so we can make sure we get it right in the and for those up here in the audience or don't know kelly recently took over as the coordinator for you it's my college campus and not only does she do a lot of the work at the college but she actually helps in the business page or then eight point one i know we identified this pool issue but i don't think that we have any action item on water ok eight point one on line ten yet line ten consideration should be given to locating future development near this being infrastructure to leverage prior capital investment up above france camp which in the future could be doesn't have a mixed use or areas like that so that would be something available up above manila camp would be available there's infrastructure in the commercial areas there's all kinds of infrastructure areas we could do that so  i can appreciate that observation but i don't see that as a conflict i'm just taking it up and reading it as if i didn't know what i was looking at so to me that would it's like a conflict between statement action items so i was asked to write something so last night i wrote this on my have copies for everybody so new action item number eight point one point one one you're yeah yeah i was trying to figure out where to stick this guy and i couldn't because it was all encompassing and is related to watershed realty everything but this is actually some verbiage from  the i mean i guess the first part i mean at least most of it time deciding where i should be putting this was kind of like a catch all i guess it talks about the burden of proof i mean the burden of proof is that something that we should be i guess i just thought you know the rest of it probably more important i stopped it in the end after i read this  this court case over here in fact i was going to introduce it is appendix whatever but all of the water cases in the future will come out of here will be based on this case a lot of it either here or in well what i what i wanted to do was connect something to policy one there's nothing in here beyond policy one in terms of action items this is pretty straightforward maybe we can put there are areas of four drainage throughout the entire life that's a good suggestion  well then add an action i don't complete the kind of good state highways d o t all the way down educating the public of the importance to the idea of recycling so we've been through i think science so as you're driving along you're seeing these signs and you're getting the message by the time you get into the recycling site the entry court door instead of just by the by the roadway it could be in front of the gate it could be yeah yeah i concur that yes you know i know the idea understand this david was a thought it was the sign that says the dump is closed action based on one of the issues eagle dumping so my policy number eleven rig encourages the county to survey residents to determine the most user friendly hours of operation and adjust hours to meet the preferences of the community adjust the yeah thank you ok you may object to that check steve i would i would suggest with that action item place it just before action what is currently we drive that loader all the way to pick up a couple bags of trash that's really something so stacey banks eight point four point zero two is it two or three now this is increased public outreach ok and then eight point four zero point zero nine a guess would be ok i still haven't got my take it or leave it station at the recycling center and i know that that you got ok but you know what i don't understand i know and she said that absolutely not but can't we put in action i like a stablish or take it or leave  transportation we're talking on page eight fourteen line thirty five we're talking about the look i ferry and we're stating what their schedule is and it seems like their schedule is in flux and i'm not sure we should i'm not sure we should be talking about what their and offers passenger service back and forth between la and in maui  ok i'm looking at eight seventeen the issues we have issue one and issue seven and i'm wondering if those are different of the ok transportation do we need to say anything about the do we need to say a thing about the east and the inundation i mean we're having some problems on some of those roadways and the standards that's something we want to mention to to try to tap  section sixteen and it says that the irrigation system water usage has remained constant over the years persistent drought and i'm recommending that we add a sentence that says predicted population increases would well i realize that that's the irrigation system and not like all of the water but i would assume that if the population is increasing and i live in general that we're also going to have if you have recommendations that we're going to go up to nine one point three one thirteen dollars you know prior to and this has to go with a comment that they made back in chapter three about fish and just high end water supply as not just for people but for the storm water management section eight  anybody object to that moving up the page to number three this is to do with the issue of the in natural system drainage and try ok so just to clarify for the rest of those who had team let me explain exactly what i would want to have happen that are kind of filtration systems we have are natural systems but they're not taking water and put it into a natural the well then encourage changes or whatever it is for states to keep more is that when we're going to be facing drainage holders that we want those colors to be as large as possible to handle ts about thirty members thirty to forty members at each gathering under the purpose is to discuss water issues but also to bring everybody up to speed with water education so the u s g s provided for the same purpose and