you're speaking we can bring it to you or you can come out and really excited about the turnout my name's a lot of blanchard i work in the city manager's office i'm managing this project for the city we're calling it faces twenty twenty eight gauge because twenty twenty is when this building is proposed to open meaning it will open and i say proposed only because there is a lot of approvals but that is the schedule that we're working with and it's to create a library and city hall in one building on one site i wanted to introduce jennifer murray in case you have not met her before although you all should of she's the library director and if the board of trustees could this project forward and i really appreciate the work that they've done and then there's a few folks who are on the foundation or on a library advocacy committee and if they could stand up to  and then i'm sort of here representing city hall so as this daughter and and and to some degree all of you because it's your building so i'm go i'm going to go through and i'm going to introduce the team that will be working with you on this project in a moment and do you have to have an introductory side also ok so you know i know that the library feasibility study was first done in two thousand and six we redid it in twenty thirteen and we also started looking at a program for city hall and looking at recreation needs  continued to talk about the need for a library the library gauge envisioning exercises and started at the library make some noise campaign so there's been a big effort to understand what a library is and what the needs are and where this community is going in that respect so last summer we were able to get a property owner to agree to give us an option on their land and so and i'm going to and so we have an option on about a half an acre in the heart of city center on market street just south of there rick market central school and east of where the new building senior housing that i is the entrance to the record market central school it's right here currently and the future it will be on a new street  so this is our standard process for public projects in the tip district we start with the project kickoff workshop which is this week there's a purpose a need that's developed and adopted by the planning commission and in this case the library board of trustees that will occur in february and then there are a turn it is presented for review that will occur in march they will be tested against the purpose and need but also given to you  comments on feedback and then in this project we're doing something a bit special we're also bringing immediately after the alternatives once one is recommended by the architectural team they will  again the following week on tuesday and so then in april once the cost estimate is complete the project will be presented to the city council for indorsement and moving on to the next step which is design so this is the outreach plan for this project this is the whole schedule it obviously begins now it will be at the you can see the city council meeting at the beginning voting will be  on for questions i mean to let dennis take all the questions so so and then this is my last slide so stay in touch with us we're going to be putting up a survey and we're go you some the same questions that we asked today we may be asking other questions will be putting our material up there and you can get to it by w w south burlington v t dot gov and i will and so there will be a link from our main page it's going to go through the blog so go through until you get to a page that has a lot of questions about the project and a lot of answers if you don't feel like you're having getting enough answers keep clicking through and you'll get to it but all the pages will be about who will put the most recent information at the front but you may have to go in to get the whole project page so that's it i'd like to introduce the design team it's led by steve roy he's a south really ten resident we had a l intensive request for qualifications very competitive process we had eight teams submit their qualifications at least and we narrowed it down to four and they  by far blew everyone out of the water with their team so they are very strong in sustainability and they partnered with a team that is extraordinarily strong in libraries dennis humfrey at the back of the room bringing a chair over to somebody has worked on a ton of libraries so we're really excited to have them here and i'm going to give them  do thank you alona and thank you everybody for coming out here today i appreciate the words of alona but it takes it really takes a large team of people to put a building together but it takes a large group of of members of the city to to help make that building something that's special and that's why we're here tonight and again on saturday it's really to gather feedback we want your opinions regardless  of where you stand on the issue we have a presentation that dennis is going to go through and there's a series of boards that that ideas can be posted on to so we really want you to participate and allow your members of the team that although they're not here tonight are really a key part of getting this project where we need to in the end we want to create a livable community through buildings that ennobled the site inspire the participants sustain the resources and bring joy to the users part of bringing joy to the users is knowing what brings joy to the users and we can fill in a lot of blanks but it's nice to find something special about south burlington that can really make it  we're kind of the third generation of partners that are creating kind of a women lanphier that is forward thinking more sustainable and really looking to make our project something special this is one of our latest projects which is kind of a demonstration piece for us it's been received multiple awards for its design its construction and its sustainability so it's a project that represents the types of elements that we want to and to bring to the city of south burlington as well  just a few views of that building in particular go also includes is clued performance spaces and types of spaces that may be useful in pertinent to the building that we're proposing this is also a building that is essentially a public building and people experience going to pass it off to dennis humphries now he's a principal at humphries poly architects and he's from denver colorado and really can do some special library work and that's that's why he's here thank you all right i'm i'm really excited to be here it's an honor to be working with steve in his firm and and in particular designing a new library and civic center city hall for you all as you can see are our libraries come in all sizes shapes and forms and we've worked on over ninety but there are no two that are alike we always try and find out what's so special in that community and i'm going to show you tonight a bunch of images of libraries from around the world some that we've designed in some that we've not designed and we're going to want to try to get a sense of what you might like in terms of the library for so burlington sometimes i show things to people in communities and they say oh we don't want anything like that and that's what we're here to find out is what you don't what yes sure i will i will try to do that i will tell you that a majority of what i'm going to show you are libraries but we are going to talk about some city hall civic combo's yes ok so  all of you should have these post notes all right so this is how you're going to communicate with us tonight and we have plenty more so if you need some we have them a few need a writing utensil we have those as well  these are kind of like the old fashioned form of tweets so where we're using paper tonight but because there's only so much room you can only write so much however it's great to see some young  folks here because you can draw and show us pictures of things you like and i notice that there are a number of these post notes back there so the idea is i'm going to ask you to write down what you like and what you don't like and if for some reason you write one idea down per per sheep and then you go to the next one and you go to the next one and when we get done with all of these  and more we'll do that in in about forty five minutes we're going to get up and we're going to put them on the white paper in the back of the room ok so we're going to go pretty fast we've been very fortunate we work with some great clients libraries are very exciting projects and our projects have been on the cover of library journal magazine which is the professional magazine of the of the professional of the library profession one of the libraries that we did that was very revolutionary is called the anything and they were very bold and it they were one of the worst performing libraries in the country and they decided they had nowhere to go but up so they threw out all the rules changed everything and it's a very historic district a two story library with with parking below grade this was the transformation of a corporate office building into a library that was honored as one of the top libraries in the country about four years ago and then not all are libraries are big and not all are libraries have great budgets we didn't have any money for landscaping on this one but we thought it was ok because this is facing the on the west face of the grand teton in wyoming so  i kind of call it the one one room schoolhouse but it's a library so very special place they actually have cross and nordic center that is part of the library so it's in the mid of the nordic track so i was this is a quote by an entire an architect the talks about why we're doing this and you know if you go back and you think about the if you travel to italy or to europe you think about all the wonderful things that were planned a number of years ago and all the great spaces that are there and it's because somebody took the time and effort to to plan out the city and so that's what we're doing today we've got this great opportunity to create this city center with the new library in the city hall and so we want to make sure that we do it right so that the future generations will look back on us and say we did the right thing so this is the other reason we do it  that you know in today's world the library is the most trusted institution in the country in terms of you know if you want a resource you want something you call the reference librarian or you call the library and you ask and you will real you'll get the information it's not on the internet all times as we know so  what we believe is that there are there's a time now where libraries are more relevant than ever many people think that they're not people aren't coming to the library because we don't need to come get books however statistics are starting to show that the younger generation has a much much stronger affinity to the hard book than than my generation we also know that people are coming to the library for multiple reasons beyond just books and so they're using their services and programs more than ever and our communities are going to continue to change and libraries are going to remain very very important we like to think that libraries are like starbucks a place for the community to come together because social connections you don't have to buy the coffee but the most important thing is anybody can use anybody and everybody can come to the library and use the resources so that it's such an important public institutions and so what we like to think is that libraries are shifting from being a warehouse of books to becoming what we call a participatory learning organisation another  it's a place where you can come and do things and not just get a book and walk out go home but it's a place where you can come and do things and i'm going to show you lots of examples of that in the presentation tonight  so this is a real quick a timeline i know you can't read it but the idea is that a number of years ago eight hundred fifty is where we started here up to today library services have grown and grown and grown and they're going to continue to grow and offer more things the original libraries were founded on books and maps and the newspapers and magazines and then it's just exploded in the one nine hundred and two thousand and terms all the things that you can get at the library so it's just as you know a very important institution in our community so i'm sure you all had dinner but i want to know i'm sorry so i want to tell you a short story because this is what i want you to do tonight i want you to think about the library in a totally different context than what you may think today so a young mother and her daughter were making meatloaf and as they  prepared to meet we're going to put it in the oven the mother cut the end off just like this and the young daughter said to the mom why did you do that and she said i don't know my mother did it that way well let's call grandma so they called grandma and they said grandma why do you cut the end off the meat loaf grandma said i don't know that's how my mom taught me to do it so they called great grandmother and ask great grandmother great grandmother if why she cut the end the meat loaf and great grand mother responded well that's silly my panel isn't big enough so first several generations they have been cutting the end off the meatloaf for reasons that were no longer relevant so when we start thinking about the library we want you to take the blinders off and i want you to think about what it could be not what it is today but what it could be and what it could be in this community so one of the first things i want to talk of a little bit about is i know that there probably are some cherished things in either the existing city hall or library that are important and you know not being from south burlington it's important that i understand this so if there were one thing there or one space that you like in the library and i know the library just moved but if there is one thing that's very special i want you to write that down on a post ok one thing these first several questions are very very simple is just one word one thing so if there is something that you like you like the way you enter the building you like the way the children's areas at the library you like the way the council chambers are today you like anything of that sort so the next one is i'd like to know one word that best describes south burlington so one one word that best describes south burlington we're going to put it on a page back  there i asked this question this morning with the library staff and they said cozy confused opportunities i mean there is no right answer i just want to get it from you because it'll come back and will understand very clearly what the objective is yes yes always separate posts so feel free we have a lot here so the next question is what is your favorite place in south burlington could be red rocks could be the mall a lot of people respond to this question when you ask him home  which is fine but we're just trying to get an understanding of if you were to put south burlington some people might say friendly outgoing maybe confused i don't know  confused is not necessarily a negative reference it's just meaning that up didn't move it there we go thank you all right so we're going to talk just a little bit about what has happened in libraries in the last few years and most of us think about you know the traditional library the carnegie libraries where it was a very formal process of going to the library it was if you could not talk and the books and knowledge it was it was where everything was because we didn't have the internet obviously but let's just step forward to the one nine hundred eighty s and i always like to associate things that happen in libraries with fashion and music and things like that just keep keep things moving but in one nine hundred eighty s one of the big concepts in the library was compaq shelving because it allowed us to put twice as much stuff in the library as what was there before and so it was a very popular thing however no one could get it but we could get more more books more material in the library in the one nine hundred ninety s the internet started to evolve netscape was actually a search engine that ninety seven percent of all searches were done on netscape and today it's like maybe two tenths of a percent it's how things change but we also had an interlibrary loan starting so you could get a library book from anywhere in the country just by going through in interlibrary loan in two thousand we had a lot of competition from the big box bookstores and we also had the advent of the desktop computer and so it changed the landscape in the library altogether and now the libraries are still here and many of the big box bookstores are no longer although you do have a couple of barnes and noble's in the area that are seem to be doing quite well because they're adapted but things have changed so and then two thousand and ten we started getting away from the desktop computers and go to tablets i pads this is a three d printer which we find in many libraries where people are doing fabulous things using three d printers so it became more digital more technologically oriented and that's when we thought the books were going to go away well in today we find that libraries are focusing on people on the community on still on technology but books are very very important so the pendulum is kind of come back and that books are still a very important resource in our libraries so with that this is the last one word question but i want you to write down one thing that you can do in the library and one thing that you think the library is there for and why you're writing that down i'll show you a list that we've gotten from other presentations like this and you can see that some of the normal thought processes of reading a book doing homework access information we all know about that there's a library where you can drink wine but some of these really partial things like change the world did you know that you can go to the library and change the world sure you can learn a new language you can learn a new skill you can start a business there's all kinds of really wonderful things that you can do at the library and that's why we're here to talk about how we're going to build this building to facilitate that so people always ask me what's the difference of a twenty first century library and i say well these are the four ingredients that it must have great experiences and we all can remember the experiences as a youngster going to the library that is empowering that you can learn some new skills you can become a stronger person you can do something it's innovative start a business create an invention and it's involvement where you can come together as community and do things differently and then we add on to that these other forwards that we think are essential is one is flexibility we note technology is going to change and so we have to be design a building that's nimble enough that can adapt itself to these new technologies exciter collaboration is a big concept sustainability not only in environmental sustainability but we want to design it so it has a minimum resources of staffing and things like that so we're not creating a new library that's going to be burdening the future taxpayers of south burlington because it takes too much staff to run we also want to reinforce creativity this is what a twenty first century library is all about it's not about the number of books it's not about the number of computers it's about reinforcing these four primary concepts with the secondary concepts in m so we're going to start talking about slides i'm going to go very very fast i will try and identify some of the libraries and there may be times when i just threw out a word and you can write that word down and we'll figure out where it goes ok so once talk about civic engagement because we're talking about a city hall and and a library we're talking about a civic center and so we all know that typically you know when we start talking about public engagement a civic center it's a place of celebration it's a place to gather but more importantly in today's world and i'm sorry there  this is a library in denmark that you can see that there's a small space outside the library where people have gathered on the stair so it becomes almost like an auditorium ampitheater and you see it's a very popular place  but all these spaces do not necessarily have to be that formal they could be informal in terms of the types of gathering spaces whether it be for a musical program for some celebration of the city or town except or  could be a room like this where it's very flexible the tables can be moved things of that sort to allow for the engagement of the community in their discussions this is that library in denmark and when i really think is special about this is this is the very center of the of the library and this i call this a gong so it's a metal object it's hollow inside and every time a child is born in this town the mother in the hospital is given an i pad she pushes a button and the gong sounds and so every child coming into this town their lives the beginning of their lives are celebrated and that happens as a part of civic engagement doesn't have to be at a library could be in city hall what can we do here to have that kind of celebration in this building that we're designing for you i am not suggesting you do this but it's just something that is really very very special and the i understand that with the book right yes so but what what other things can we do to celebrate south burlington so now we're going to talk about most people when they think of the library think the collections and reading spaces so i'm going to go through and show you some examples of libraries and this is  a new library but it's fairly traditional in terms of its layout would book shelving spaces to read comfortable chairs great lighting things of that sort this is a library in norway and to me it's like being inside the whale it has twenty six ribs and you can sit up here or you can sit in there and it's a way that they honor the book so it becomes a very special place honoring knowledge in the written word this is a library that's in a rural community that it becomes the third place that you've  home and you've got work or school and then you have the library that you can come to and you can have these comfortable seating areas the rooms are formed by bookshelves focusing on a on a fireplace or other areas and it is broken down into small  spaces in this library this is one of the any think libraries where all the shelving in the center of the of the room is low so it's about forty two inches we have seating areas within and then we put the tall shelving around the perimeter and so it's a very inviting way to come into the and find the books this is a another scandinavian library where in this particular town  their literacy rate was lower than what the community wanted to be known for and so they created what they call the mountain of books and so they created this this library that when you walk into you know what is there and they put it in under a greenhouse so it had plenty of daylight filtering through it and the first criticism was well the daylight's going to destroy the books and they said well we hope every book goes home sits on somebodies dinner table and has tomato soup spilled on it we want to mused we don't want to hear and so that's what this community their social statement was about the importance of their library i think it's a very interesting  dynamic expression this is a contemporary library this is a book store it's one of the larger independent bookstores but it has a very cozy quality to it is this what we're looking for here in south burlington we're looking for something that's more modern more contemporary this is a more contemporary looking bookstore or library but it is a it's a it's a library but you can see that the books are stacked much like you might find them at barnes and noble and see the lighting is very inviting and so they're retailing the books they're trying to get you excited about coming into the library and seen the books as you enter sometimes he's a little stubborn over here but  so bringing daylight into the library is also very important and you can see again this looks like going into barnes and noble with the stacks of books on the tables and offering them to readers coming in to use and t home this is a a branch library in new york city and they're retailing the books much like you might find at a shoe store where they're all on display their face out there very tall so not necessarily accessible but they're really reinforcing the idea of what the importance of books in their community not all shelving has to be linear the standard library shelf is three feet long and so here they're circular they define spaces where people can read in the center between those the idea is that people can go on a on a discovery and really explore and have that experience being in a space like this sometimes it's nice to find a book and quickly find a place to read so just having some time sitting within the stack nice comfortable place having lots of daylight when we talked after day at the library maybe about bringing natural light into the reading areas so that it becomes a very this is in san diego at their public library and they put the reading room at the very top floor most libraries reserve that for the administration or for books and things like that but here the penthouse if you will is for the public reading the furniture is all portable enough that it can be moved around and you can look out and see all the activities out into the bay petco park is just about a block and a half away so it's really a wonderful place that everybody gets to go to in san diego at their library contrast that this is a small library near mesa verde national park where they wanted something that was quite quite warm there is a rapidly flowing river that is just outside of that window one of the other nice things about this library is everything you see there was donated by the community and and that became very special as we started designing the library the community really took ownership of building that the library i like fireplaces in libraries i've been accused of that  i'll wear that honor but we try and make the fireplace is that part of that third place you know a place for people to come and really enjoy where they're at i'm going to show you this fireplace and a little later in the presentation but note how big the hearth is there and i'll come back to that this is in southwestern colorado a lot of people want to go to the library for coffee and things of that sort those are sometimes tough to operate in a library because libraries generally don't open until nine or ten and a lot of people like to have coffee at seven and eight o'clock and so it's really tough but this particular library does not have a barista it has a vending machine but it looks like it does it has everything that goes with it this happens to be in arizona but you can go there read the morning newspaper pick up periodicals the furniture looks like it's exactly what you would find in a starbucks or a local coffee shop but it's it's the library having window seats that look out to the outdoors this library happens to be near the corey were all the stone for the washington monument came from and we went there and they opened up the cory for us and we brought a little bit of the stone into the library  very movable tables here but it became important that this reference this history of the community would be in the library for many generations to experience and we've talked a little bit here about the red stones and things like that that might be here a number of cory's are there things like that that we might be able to bring into the library into these reading areas that can be very very special ok well let's go and talk about technology and innovation things that are happening in the library and these are spaces that we're doing that are very flexible this is called an idea lab and you can see these are youngsters that are there during the day there's adults there at night everybody is working off a laptop the furniture is very portable can be moved around and they're learning how to code in this particular space which will be a very important  skill set that these these young children are going to take from there we're finding that the service desk and circulation desk are getting smaller we refer to the big ones as fort circulation because that separates the staff from the the patron and we believe that there ought to be more engagement more personal service and so these things are actually very flexible  this is a very portable one that's just picked up and moved this is at the indianapolis public library and you can see it has a computer and it can just be unplugged and moved around the library to help people as the go and try and discover a book or a new experience within the library also you know the card catalogs or are being more graphic on the computer touch screens things of that sort so you don't have to go back to a centralized point to try and find out where your your books are having outlets for both power and data are important and so incorporating furniture that offers all of that is very important we find this a lot at airports today but we're finding it more important in in libraries  some libraries we go to they have laptop checkout stations so you put your library card in there and you get a laptop that you can use and wander around the library if you don't return it your library card knows that you did not return it but as i understand this this one group called laptops anywhere has never had had one problem in the last five years with with the failure of a laptop so it's very popular the idea is it provides that portable opportunity to connect with technology as opposed to having the the the old desktop computers and then these are quite nice in that maybe there's a lobby where it can be a twenty four seven library so say you work late at night and you have a book that you want to hold at the library you can't get there to pick it up in time where the book is put here you insert your card and it's dispensed to you so you can get access to this much like going into an a t m you can get books and there are other opportunities where you could actually have a small collection here and you could pick out just like going to the red box but this is this one is for holds or for returning your books this is a library in philadelphia where they have download stations so you can go there on your portable devices and you can download books movies music etc many libraries are doing that over the internet now obviously that takes a bit more time than than being directly where it in but  it's a very popular popular thing this is the first booklets library in the country it's in san antonio there are no books it's all computers all technology and one of the interesting things about it is you can see many generations of people here but it doesn't have the heart in the soul that going in and having those books associated so my opinion it went a little too far  one of the things that that we did in a library is that historically you would have a couch in the children's area where a caregiver would read to a younger child and so in this particular case this library has a similar type thing with technology so on the one side is a child computer on the other side is an adult computer on sw monitors and so we're trying to get that that parenting or caregiving opportunity to siblings sometimes it allows computing on the same  program sometimes it's independent of one another but you're together as a family unit i saw this at a bookstore when i was walking down the street one time and i think it's a good thing to remember so you know you'll see me talk about technology and how great it is and then we'll always come back and talk about how great it is to have that tech dollar that that specific experience sometimes you know having computers built into columns at different levels stand up computer sit down computers  and i think i'm going to have to wake him up a little bit here having the ability to view music's in videos in a very comfortable innovative way these are very interesting seats in that there are surround speakers within this and so somebody could be watching a video on this monitor here have the sound way up and i could be standing right here and i can hardly hear it so it's just a matter of of using the technology and appropriate environment this is the children's story time area in any nap less so it's a large green screen and the children sit here sit on the floor and then you can create really wonderful experiences of walking into paris while you're in indianapolis another thing that we see a lot of is books are being returned on material handling devices and then sorted through automation as opposed to having a librarian do that so we'll talk about some community and meeting rooms so if you remember that fireplace that i talked about they had the big hearth well this is it so it becomes kind of a pop up venue they were actually doing poetry reading here and so it's a great opportunity to have a space that isn't necessarily created for performance but it can be used for gathering of people to share stories et many of the meeting rooms are similar to this where the tables are very portable on wheels the seating us on wheels focusing on a large screen we always like to suggest that whenever we have spaces for meetings that they should be used all the time and so this is a library where it does have a space a meeting going on at this particular time but when it's not why can't the library be used for reading or for other purposes so we have these large openings that are closed off with garage doors so they're very simple very economical to create flexibility in the space of the library  this is a library in a city hall in utah and near suburbs of salt lake and this is where the seating pulls out or it folds back up so it's like theater style seating very comfortable in some respects and so it can come out be very flexible space in fact the vermont public radio star gets a studio one has that same type of a feature and it's really a very very nice piece of flexibility i call this the murphy stage where you know sometimes stage a large stage get in the way so this one folds up into the wall a nd goes out of sight this is a stage in a library and city hall in the netherlands where this razed area is used for musical performances and things like that but it's also in the lobby of the building so when you come in if it's not a performance going on there people like to sit up there because most people like to sit upon i and do people watching and so it's a great a great opportunity where you can see there's a screen there a piano video screen so all kinds of opportunity but this is in the lobby of this library city hall as opposed to being a separate performance venue we worked on a on a library where for the community room they said they wanted everybody to know when the community is meeting and so the community room is all glass so they didn't want to be hidden behind closed doors etc when the meeting rooms are happening they wanted everybody to come in and participate sometimes just having a little alcoves for people to meet and to study is a nice thing study rooms meeting spaces are very much in demand in libraries today  whether it be for people starting a business working from home for groups that don't have a you know organizations that don't have a place to come coming to the library is quite good having them outfitted with the proper equipment making them very comfortable but most of the time we like to have glass so they bring in daylight and you can see what's happening inside the room you have a very similar space at the new library at the mall where it's a room within a room this this one is fully enclosed where the one you have at the mall is is open but it has that kind of quality to it where you're creating a special room  sometimes having you know a taller space is very popular with with younger adults or just having this is another kind of a study noack within the collection  always look to other leading technology or companies corporates corporations to see how they do things this is google in in switzerland and so we shared this a couple of times and some of the libraries we work in mountain communities and so in tell your i colorado we did a renovation of the library there and they have two gondola car cars in their library now as study rooms and so it was it was quite fascinating to have that transformation how it brought a little bit of the community back in this is a book you glue you know so spaces that you know the the the study rooms or the spaces don't always have to be what you typically would say four walls and a door they can be something that can be very very special and fun let's talk about outdoor spaces and that's you know one thing i've heard a lot  about the importance here unfortunately we don't have a lot of property and so there's a park that's planned it's about a block away and so maybe there's an ability to engage them of those things but i'm going to show you some things that happen on outdoor space this is a library in central colorado where it has a rooftop outdoor deck and from that out toward door to door deck you can see the mountains in the in the background you're above it  all in most urban environments today this is the most popular restaurant you could find right so why not do it at the library  here for people to sit this happens to be a square dancing group that was square dancing in the parking lot of the library and here they were taking a break but during the rest of the time this is a twenty four seven library where  internet access is available people can come under the porch and use their laptops and get access to the library's collection we like the connection between indoors and the outdoors and so this is that city hall that i shared with you that has the movable seating this is that space and it has a connection to the outdoors and happens to be a large glass wall that opens up and connects to the outdoors so it's like an airport hangar door out of glass that allows that connection between indoors and the outdoors and this is what that space looks like so they can have a lot of public events outside this library we have a place for showing outdoor movies we have an outdoor fireplace and we have an outdoor garden area  so that community took it on and they built a greenhouse and they started their own planting and community garden and i know we don't have space for that and i know you have i think it's in wheeler park there's  community garden spaces and things like that but the important thing here is in this community they really want to focus on nutrition and so it's a real farm to table opportunity so in the meeting room we have a portable cooking unit that rules out that self contained and they do cooking classes there everyone stay and it's something that just has dramatically changed the library in fact this library was  honored as the best small library in america three years ago and it was all because the community came together and decided that this is something that was important to their community was having better nutrition better better eating habits etc so they they did as much as they could to reinforce those habits this is that same library where people are sitting out on a snowy day who watched the movie we have a little fire pit here as  well this is in southwestern colorado so let's talk about children's area and you know having a little special nux for kids to read in these are these are portable on wheels they can be moved around having the empowerment of of allowing a child to go in their own door as opposed to a full size door and having special seating for the child whether it be something that's a large plant so maybe jackin to be in stock or something but having a child like seating areas and things like that having outdoor spaces with child size furniture we have a library that wanted to have a tree house but it's it's hard to make a tree house accessible for all and we have the danger of kids falling so we put the tree house down to ground we actually  found a company that sells a bark and we clad these these these walls with with with bark from north carolina this is really one of my favorite spaces this is in salt lake city at their central library and it's called grandma's attic i don't think we have to explain to much more right it just feels like a very very special place for the kids to go and again we start talking about giving these young people an experience that they're going to remember that's going to bring them to the library and in and attach them to it you know having crafts spaces and things like that here we separated the noisy children's area from the rest of the library with colorful glass that allows the adults their parents caregivers to be able to see that their child is safe having areas where again they can be messy concrete floors but having a craft  area you know interactive early literacy areas these a library in ohio it's interesting that jennifer showed us this library this morning is one of one of her inspiring places is  county outside of cleveland ohio this is a library that we worked on near denver international airport and somebody suggested we put an airplane cockpit in the in the library and we said well we can't do that we can't afford it won't happen and somebody said well i know somebody united airlines they have a flight training center here so let's call and see what just so happened timing was right and they said if you get a truck here in two weeks the light the cockpit is yours so there it is in the children's library this is in a community where much already of the people in that community work or are affiliated with the airline industry and so it's something that made it very very special to that community this is in the children's area however the adults are always dominating it so special to that this is another great story this is in farmington new mexico and this is the entry into a story time room and a husband and wife gave this to their community she he was a she was a calligrapher and he was a wood sculptor and so they created this and this is what the back side of it is and you can see how wonderfully detailed it is but most importantly it is something those kids will remember for ever and it will be that inspiration that will continue to bring them back to the library but it was a gift from the community it was something that was very very special from the community this is a storytelling room in billings montana at their library and there's a skylight right above the seat this is like a conical space and this is the storytellers chair how magical is that and at the right time a ray of sun shines down on that person so having having that really special place to create memories let's talk about teens and young adults and you know brighter colors and  more dynamic furniture and things of that sort this was a team library in evanston illinois they had a team a teen advisory committee get together and they couldn't really decide what wallpaper to put up so they used a little bit of a lot but most importantly they wanted to have something that reinforce collaboration so we have these first two stations where the young children or young adults are focusing on a computer it's on a swivel base here we have collaboration of the spoken word and we still have some individual out of tea some opportunities for teens to be themselves so this was designed by the teens and it became very very special collaboration and so having tables that reinforce the idea of working together and that we're finding in educational system that collaborative learning and working together is a very important concept  this is a teen library in ohio where it feels like you're almost in a sports bar of sorts i mean a large video screen very casual opportunity to get together backlighted books shelves and things like that it's a very special place and a very cool place i should say this is in billings montana where the teens actually designed their study spaces so they created these really kind of funky funky study  rooms this is another google environment they're called the beehives which is a great place for for people to get together and be very creative many of the libraries we work in there's a large homeschool population and so we approached by the young young adults and said we don't have a place to put our art because we don't go to school let's have a place in the library and so this this sort of fabric welded metal fabric was put together and they can hang there ar their own shows a lot of young adults like this type of gymnasium seating if you will bleacher seating or soft seating to go with it so they can move things around but very flexible opportunities and a little different than what you might find in other areas so one other very popular thing that i mentioned earlier was the maker space and so a lot of our libraries have what we call the studios and the kind of reference this acronym here called mago which means hangout mess around and geek out so it's for people of all levels so if you just want to go in there and dabble at it for a little bit or you want to start messing around or if you're really really very proficient you can take out this is actually a maker space and a library looks like a wood shop when i was going to school but it's actually a place where a lot of things are created in the library this is a library that we did that this is what we call a clean maker space so we have digital sewing machines and so people can come together and  make quilts and things of that sort we like to put these rooms with large glass so you can see into him so you're welcoming welcomed into them as opposed to behind closed doors so you can make a mass that's in madison wisconsin at their library called the bubbler sound recording studios not only just for music as we see here but could be for oral histories of your family or other things of that sort of story corps or it could be for young kids to get together and have an opportunity to record their own creation i showed the green screen in the indianapolis public library children's area but this is very flexible green screen that's in a a meeting room in a library so they don't have to be all that sophisticated to do videos and then we're working on a couple of libraries in montana where they said we wanted our maker speaks to focus on the last arts and so the last arts of candle making so making with the laying  fabric things of that sort and so not every maker space not every creative space has to be about technology it can be about something that's very very important to your community and so are there elements here in south burlington and if we want to expand it to the greater state of vermont but are there things that we could do in a maker space if we were to have one that could be successfully done here let's talk i think just a couple  ore here we know that there will be a council chambers of some sort and we just throw it out there that this is a library and city hall that we did in outside of portland oregon where it has the raised d s and for the council members and then very flexible seating we've also dhanam where this is portable and goes into a separate room and it becomes a meeting space without having that raised platform and you can see one of the other nice things about this is there's natural light coming into the room as opposed to a lot of these are closed boxes or they're more formal this is in santa monica california so this is a more formal type of city council type session or it could be more of an auditorium type  that maybe is used for other types of performances but the seating is fixed but the acoustics and the lighting are all much like you would find in a in a very large auditorium or even another more flexible one that can be moved so i think the last item i wanted to talk about is sustainability we had one client that said to him that means cheap to keep another it's it's it's low energy cost low operation costs and things of that sort and i know it's a very important initiative here and i know that steve is talking about trying to make this a net zero building if at all possible but here we how the building is doing in different climates this is a library where all of this material in the ceiling is from dead trees that from a bark disease that took all the trees down in colorado and so we recycled it and put it into the building in a very creative fashion it was just pine having these solar tubes are very efficient ways of bringing daylight into interior spaces  living walls are very important in buildings because they are they off gas a lot of really wonderful things and it creates color and and gives life to a room this is a library in  seattle the bollard library where the entire library roof is planted and these are the solar to bring in the daylight down in but one of the neat things is they actually have some wild habitat up there and there's a camera  over here that then has a monitor in the children's area so they can watch and see what's going on on the roof of the library community gardens as i mentioned earlier but sometimes these are vertical gardens and it becoming much much more popular and perhaps it's something since we don't have a lot of of outdoor space maybe it's something that we might want to might want to consider  obviously photo of a take is is a great energy source this is a small gesture that we did in one of our libraries where we provided covered parking for the bicycles and i can't tell you how many times that the people commented how much they were pleased that we did this because just getting the bikes out of this the weather was really important and we were able to put the bikes this kind of parking up closer to the front door than we might normally do so that's a very rapid tour i went just a little bit longer and i had hope but those are the the things that i want to just inspire you with i'm not saying we're going to do any of these are all of these but i want to hear we want to hear from you and so that's why you have your notes so are there any general questions just general yes  robotic to librarians you know in research libraries academic libraries the university of chicago as an example has a i think it's seven stories below grade a large vault of books and materials and you can go to the desk given the number and within five minutes you'll have your your books retrieved robotically very expensive i'm sorry only in the transaction yeah yeah so any other general questions if not well i'm going to ask you to do now because this is i want you to put your your slips up on the wall if you don't know where something goes we have a miscellaneous category if you don't know where something goes just put it up there and we'll figure it out and what i want to try and do is read back the comments and the reason i do this is because a honor everything that you've said and be sometimes when i come into a community there are references to specific things that i may not fully understand and so it's important that that we have that  i'm going to have stephen and to help read those back but so don't leave please and we'll get through those very very quickly but it's a it's a good experience to hear what somebody over here was writing while you were thinking about robots and or whatever so let's take a few minutes i think we have some refreshments left some cider and cookies and all that kind of stuff but let's put the notes up and then we will read them thank you everybody for your comments it's great to see a lot of post it notes on these papers what's let's get started to look at them one word to describe south burlington i see neighborhoods awesome entertaining involved growing energetic biking spread out nature diverse high energy neither one for growing and another one for growing and changing another one for diverse one for expensive evolving to move has everything you need shopping restaurants or hiking biking walking  achieving community safe identity list between small town in an urban area familiar anxious conflicted diverse disparate spread out shopping mecca not well connected many as separate places safe schools a supportive community a small town feel a changing  bike paths recreation path eastwards overlook park another for overlook park outdoors in natural parks wheeler red rocks bike pa dorset street corridor or orchard school library centennial woods university mall total middle school bike path red rocks neighborhood the woods many great public woods another two here for red rocks overlook park another for overlook clingers bakery wonderful by the way the school the energy of students a bike path stone hedge the looks like a farm stone hedge roof garden at the airport south phillips which is my neighborhood as well overlooked park the library wheeler part red rocks another vote for clingers bakery i think that covers places and if anybody thinks of any others feel free to add this next one is looking at things that should be continued from existing spaces the knitting group  the librarians bookshelves having lots of trees having fun seats separate children's room the farmer's market being e friendly the children's section children's room always always be welcome and learn learn learn to grow  friendly place where library staff for help with the happy to help concert space highlight sections table of new topics in books a children's area for story to itself i think colorful children's areas inviting space achieving community and i think in this one a section of fairy tales in the children's section and learn learn a new skill place to learn a new skill next on the list what is one thing you can do in the library mentor learn in research learn something new meet teach kids browse books for inspiration teach my kids to love books find a quiet space relax and read research special subjects talk with friends and family be curious explore and discover learn discover the resources i need to realize my dreams access information listen to a speaker access consumer reports research special subjects check out a book resource information find a quiet space research use the computer find books for pleasure  reading place to discover resources i need to realize my dreams book groups and discussions read newspapers see friends connect with new people learn wander introduce young children to books borrow books a safe place to kill time without spending money so th perfect borrow things besides books such as tools art supplies courts equipment useful expensive software on computers so using a shared model welcoming to all in many cultures check out books and connect with people who live in the area and another for borrowing books i think that's that's a continu way collections in reading comments for those spaces religious studies graphic novels  better better johner separation mystery science fiction etc liz kessler books stacks of books on tables for browsing places to stop and read as if at a co home like the retailing look allows for recommendations by the staff fantasy fiction realistic fiction art and design the doll people series not cozy like circular shelving like beehives easy readers detective fiction historical fiction public reading spaced on top floor with a view circular shelving that in the technology and innovation category robotic librarian self check out twenty four seven power outlets idea lab mobile staff kiosk to help  with to help people outlets laptops anywhere self check out and this is a question what's a green screen it's if you have a video screen for best example is probably the weatherman that person stands in front of a green screen to show an image on a screen that's behind that person but the color on the wall is neutral and doesn't show  up touch screen catalogs technology look up station to locate books self checkout virtual reality should be considered a download station a tool loan an automated checkout return and an area for light therapy since our sun exposure is limited outdoor spaces a garden a playground a park outdoor space roof dep roof top deck outdoor movies in the school parking lot a rooftop cafe that operates independently or cooperative lee with a library skinny pancake was just an indoor and outdoor gathering space like outdoor porches for lobby area to wait for public transit to pick up residence but not in the best southern sunny location don't block all the natural light by parking a drive a book or turn so people can stay in their cars natural light borrow tools and gardening equipment gardens covered parking for bikes landscaping  with a suggestion for winter berry south burlington residents will likely walk and bike to the center covered by parking a porch with comfy chairs a garden such as a vertical garden  a screen porch is a necessity in vermont items from nature in the lab in the library underhill has a shakespearean garden i believe where the plants performances vegetable garden for food natural light and i think i've covered moving along to maker in creativity space art technology and art crafts performance space ways to incorporate the senior population laptops vs desktop computers better an art room maker space in the building  three d printing make a space for all ages homeschooling rooms and download stations  in the children's section something that's easily clean of all a story our reading pit puzzles comfy seating separate from the main library like the children's  area no exceeding child size furniture kids entrance sound barrier so noise is not a problem an art display area separate kids room in the library after school safe space and programming keep kids separate kids doors dedicated kids space children's craft areas couches or comfy chairs but no feet allowed shelves not too high so kids can reach them separate play area rugs like the separation of noisy children's area from the quieter library spaces senior reading to  kids magical space for children and teens ages experience outdoor space love the portable cooking space interactive children's area interesting seating for story time support homeschooler with space and resources children's teens and adults spaces comfy furniture a lounge room space that they get to design improved literacy  teens help the design again lots of books welcoming comforting for teens walls of small study rooms covered with white boards teeny area chairs that allow sound but oh ok the pods are the actual chairs but they're more than one person can fit in i like that idea a collaboration areas especially for teens group games activities coding selective video games chess boards board games white boards chalk boards covered walls covered you know chocolate covered walls in the study rooms and tables and comfy chairs with good electronic  access community meeting rooms varied lighting and ceilings portable furniture vermont products and furniture a coffee shop on the first floor that opens daily and stays late with hold lockers nearby a reading room has a quiet space natural light meeting room with technology program space meeting spaces colored glass walls swivel base to collaborate art shows solar tubes bookshelves like this with a little drawing pop up gathering spaces seating poles out murphy stage pop up space in the lobby room for lounging book bags twenty four seven tech in the meeting rooms and tech tables for small groups a dedicated meeting room available by scheduling study rooms and meeting rooms solar fireplace double sided solar fireplace that's double sided copies small group spaces booths glass garage doors barn doors perhaps like the community room that can be open to the library or closed off the fireplace reading space that can be used for small gatherings  fireplaces invite people in and create an atmosphere of warmth and and sharing and example the underhill jericho library a place to go that's not home the third place lots of small meeting spaces for groups of eight to fifteen people space for performances space for playing card games  exercise group group gatherings a gas fireplace a community center area for food trucks during events coffee retractable stadium seating natural light stage murphy style stage the movable furniture in the fireplace play areas that are comfortable with the needs of senior citizens one example of comfortable seating that you don't sink into to keep tables that fold in such a manner for easy storage a fireplace and views coffee great natural light a cozy fireplace and a place for art lots of small meeting spaces retractable stadium seating and i think that's spaces next is council chambers windows in the council room and as many meeting rooms as possible a lobby with a stage area covered by parking better civic engagement  i think this says minimize formality movable council table become seating in very flexible natural wood in south burlington colors viewpoints windows and moving on to sustainability there's a couple votes for a roof garden billed as a zero emission building net zero yes easy uncomfortable access for people walking in from the street without cars designed zero we can do this provide bicycle storage versatile space hundred percent use all the time green design meant zero natural light lots of natural light and bike storage miscellaneous so swing back over here and miscellaneous category so we have a couple for natural light use local artists i like a library space that has a lot of natural light again lots of natural light day lighting bookmobile at the farmer's market interior gardens and walls split level ground floor and mezzanine so you can view over the main area capture the seasons of vermont and different sections of the library the screen this one says seems a shame to be in vermont with little to no outdoor space so think about how to get outdoor space craft area a place to post community events a place to gather and feel safe comfortable seating ample parking for bikes and cars easy public transit many defined areas privacy family orientation parking or good public transportation   daylight especially for reading areas love the san diego penthouse reading room identity challenge that's kind of fits into the one word describes daylight yes be able to see kids and other patrons easily across the room a coffee bar a reading a book with book shelves work by local artists natural wood use of natural materials wooden stone easy access in the winter like the third place homework library fireplace loves it red rocks stones culture use wood in vermont granite fireplaces cosy welcoming place library should focus on our connection to the lake champlain include living walls and vertical gardens  use of natural light high back seating power garage door meeting room walls like alcoves and meeting spaces small with glass wall welcoming entrance with bathrooms window seats fireplace marble from a berry cory able to easily find books looking for handrails for older people easy access an area where teenage students can work together on projects with computer plug ins a place outside where people young or old can wait and be picked up a covered area protect them from the weather a craft area a place to post community events a place gather and feel safe natural light lots of light love the columns with multiple levels for laptops retractable bleachers and stage in the meeting room spaces library should focus on our connection to lake champlain i think i read that one already cozy and welcoming culture fireplaces a lot of good ideas so that's really tremendous are there any i know some of you've been writing while these were being read back so feel free to add to them as i said there's no feet  fine for late entries tonight and you know ultimately we're going to have something very similar posted on the web site so that people can can also look at these things but  make sure if you have other ideas you communicate them to us to the library or to the city so that we can make sure that we incorporate as much as we can are there any questions yes  yes yes so you know in a world where we have lots of open space yes it's going to be a challenge but i think the concept behind this is it becomes more urban becomes a city center and the zoning is that it be two to six stories in this area not saying we're going to be six stories in height on street parking is going to be available and if you want to talk about other parking aspects or you need to come over here and sorry areas as well so the library will be multi story going these guys are not charged with the parking they're really charged with the library and this particular site and that will be part of what the city manager's office works on thank you does that answer your question well i'm just going to have is it free accessible parking it will be accessible today it will be free probably for the next several years it will be free i cannot say the city center of all is what choices that future residents and city councils will make so yes so i'm kind of getting a little bit nervous about the twenty teens everywhere i look there are these rather industrial looking buildings with than stain know and i guess i don't want to become glass brick known for the glass bricks you know kind of the thing and i just real curious about how you go about making a distinctive building that isn't going to be just like every other building that seems to be going up all over town well that that's a great question and a great comment because when we come back we'll present some images of what the building may look like this is a civic building and so it should not look like every other building it should have special qualities about it that draw you to it that you realize that you're going to a very important building where you're going there for the city hall or you're going there for the library you know sometimes as we go back and we think about the courthouses that were planned in the middle of the city and and all the streets would come to them and they might focus on the front door or a bel tower or something of that sort we need to discover that yet and see even his co courts are going to be working very hard to understand i mean they live here in the town and so we're going to be working very very hard discover what is going to make it unique but we don't want to look like it belongs somewhere else we don't want it to be something that is not representative of the town and so that's why we ask these words about what what are your favorite places what one word best describes you so we don't want to be like glass bricks we wanted to be timeless so that in twenty years thirty years as there's there's a quote that i like is the most sustainable building is the one that's most loved and the one is most loved is the one that we all were involved in that the ownership of designing and building it but it's that one you know you you know the one that's most loved you know whether it be the church or whether it be the city hall in some communities surrounding here and so that's what we're going to be looking for is that identity because we want this building to be loft there's a help ok well exactly there's got to be a little bit of counting on us and you know i think the work that that steve's firm has done is is just really exciting i think vermont public radio is a great  reflection of of vermont in my mind and so we're going to be working very very hard together in creating a building that's even more representative south burlington yes  we're not going to have a mall but we're going to have as many as we can we are doing this again on saturday at ten o'clock i think is that right ten in the morning right here not ten at  night and it's on you tube yeah so you get to hear the the narrative as well but yeah and if you can you have more comments or more thoughts please put them forward you behind sir did you have that same  maybe people you use things oh yes well that's good we will we will find that that vocabulary of the building of materiality and and what is really uniquely vermont in south burlington and there's a lot of you know great words that came out of the comments that we got so many other comments somebody asked me what the approximate cost is or is there a budget or where are we with so if you look at the capital improvement program which has been approved by the city council that's such a lee i look forward to to estimate what we think this might cost given the program and information that we had at the time that we made that document so it's a budget you all know what a budget is things can change but that's the number that we've been working with and so that number is we have twelve point five million for the building excluding all soft costs and land acquisition and i can't i'm not sure what the combined number with everything but if you look at the capital improvement program it's the library plus the city hall pages and you can see how it's broken out into soft costs and construction we did not break out the land i'm not sure i think the land is represented under soft costs and then it also gives you our funding sources that we are either have in place or and are anticipating using and that's on the city web site underneath finance department finance  and i think you can also find it on the city center website so if there are no questions i'm really appreciate you all coming tonight and putting your energy into it and again if you have more ideas or more thoughts keep them coming because we we need more inspiration yes next as part of our schedule which i don't have the front of me to say exactly what the dates are but we're going to be gathering feedback from stakeholders a couple of public sessions today's saturday presented to the public for their input so you'll have the opportunity to say i do like something i don't like something you know we're really trying to listen to the public gather feedback present ideas that we think represent those ideas as comments and then through that public session working through the design february and into march the next public session is  march and and beyond that it will go to city council after a decision is kind of made to which of the best options is available and then you know after a final selection is made then design will progress and that the city will have a chance to vote  right now the calendar shows a move in date of april in twenty twenty