arrived yet and i'm calling to order the  criticism intended not taken i did it you know i couldn't believe it i'm so embarrassed actually it's so are you half right that's true it's you know it's true ok so we do have a letter here regarding the appointment process which you provided to the board i've read it i think it makes a lot of sense phyllis's said that we're going to go over it on april third the committee procedures yeah yeah yeah  and then so i think we can just go right to the appointment schedule the only one thing that i wanted that i thought after rereading it to get it would be in number five and this also comes from comments that i've received ok said the board of selectmen will interview an open meeting recommended candidates i think it should say may interview because there are committees and then there are committees so we may not want to interview every single applicant for a committee that meets so infrequently whereas something that's very intensive we might want to be  large i forsee is an area where a small vocal group could nix committee appointments to people with whom they disagree could be blunt one town meeting member with a facebook page could influence who is and who is not appointed to the committees just my thought been in your shoes begging people to volunteer for committees don't throw up any more hurdles to citizens dissipate and respectfully and marie mahoney ok thank you emory and one that's one of the reasons that i was thinking of taking the well to the may to make a lease here or to be honest i think a lot of anyone could go on a facebook page now and then go after any of the people who are seeking to be appointed today the rules don't really give him the rules was not to really change what we do experience the last two years my experience is that the more i don't contentious is not the right word but the appointments that required more discussion had to do with more applicants rather than less applicants and also people who came from the various campaigns newly elected selectman wanted to get out and certain committees and then the other to select one would respect that that wish and sometimes there was know and i just so people know that the the rules for committee appointments that we're talking about were rules that we're intending to implement say as of january first twenty eighteen they're not governing the current process but we still have a process and we still go through it absolutely  able third because i was reading the minutes thanks morry morning work on work this is also imam of that list allison had sent which will be on your agenda for the monday meeting also ok for th  undo obsolete laws but it's not i think in the same probably good governance to undo obsolete committees not that any of them are obsolete by formation but just if they're no longer in any in session there's no need some of them are temporary that were appointed right for the three to five so like when they're going to start and stop and go away so one never reappoint anybody to write so the list we have when gathering the list of active committee was we're going to go over not only both third as i know it's been on july thirty first and it's to number five as the board of selectmen will he's suggesting that that be changed to may to you know so that we're not required to interview we can pick and choose the committees we want to if any thank you and emory mahoney you sent us a memo which is on yes there and we read it for the public so now we're going to move shouted me down so i will be more respectful of others that i speak of that you can return the favor i'm sure i can ok thank you so the first one is the cable television advisory committee jonathan green says he wishes to be appointed but if anyone else was interested he'd willing to step aside he wanted to finish the contract i think the contract is being finished on monday but we don't have any other one persons proposing themselves as far as i know now and i i had a discussion with the cable advisory committee met on tuesday of this week and we discussed again and the fact that this might be a committee that once licensor as is executed that this committee really may not have a need to meet and so this may be one that would be going to be suspended until higher to the next level we don't want to decide that today in my opinion so i think the best thing to do is to reappoint jonathan because he said he was willing to do it  and i'm hoping to hear back to them as to i saw my neighbor again and plan road who said she'd given up on her rights and table just because she can't get an answer from anybody so i'm i'm expecting to hear from them on monday about what i don't know that you will hear from them on monday i did send an email ad to them asking again about the road my road location as i mentioned before we've asked about that before and i asked them again i mean  i don't know if i have an answer by monday but that is part of their town's representative will get that yes so i guess even if we find the contract they can still address that issue no certainly so ok replace no other applicants let's just go in order here the next one is the community path implementation advisory committee we obviously don't and in my opinion put some individuals who apply to multiple committees and if we take them and some of the committees seem to be more robust than others and it would be if we take them on the lesser committees and what say we don't appoint them or we do appoint them then that sort of may knock them out for a more robust committee they're interested in and what we've done in the past is you know if we know somebody is applied for multiple committees we can i don't hold them on the side we go ahead and vote for the people that that right so i think i think floyd can be in americus and they can call him to the meetings if they want i mean for me he's a pillar of the town and the committees and this specific amused radio here he's got the institutional knowledge and it was sanderson or erica erica for example implicate indicated that vision twenty one was her top committee and so you know i kind of like to hold her aside until the day until we g there and then sandy sanderson said that the community preservation committee was his number and i don't know if you can put these in i don't know if they're in order of where they are no the application doesn't say put like rank them one to three inches put says where he can use that skill better i mean it's sort of tough to defend i mean we could hold these for later or we could do the committees where there's really nothing nobody applying for them and everyone wants to be re up and then start with the hard ones and work our way yes so it would have to give us somebody right so for me what i would recommend we do is that we appoint anthony and margaret because those are two firm appointment he said anthony didn't want to wasn't sure i want to know  presentations were being made to the select men with regard to articles at town meeting one of the projects that he worked on he mentions in his application last week you park like him right and that's i met him through that process and adam since you're the liaison would you be willing to call or do you want your fellas or mack could do it you know i think might be more appropriate coming from them just to fit all the recognition say ok is it certainly anthony or not but i've no problem with margaret whatsoever ok let's do that and move to conservation conservation they have to remember terms expiring and seven do they have nine and i think we should hold him to the side and reappoint the two interest another comment was there if you pointed to was there any more room no and you can't really hold on to the side if your point both are just third choice so i think we're today they have to be licensed in a particular town and so if you are using if you were serving somebody in belmont you would have to use someone that was approved by us and belmont to serve process of for instance or serving a law you can have the government do it should be the sheriff or you could have a private server like a constable on one of the reasons i like the constables as they know the town and if you have to if someone's trying to evade service i found the constables are very adept at locating those individuals because they know the town and the sheriff may just come knock on the door no one got no one's home and they leave where is the sheriff some to this is some things have to be served in hand you can't leave them at the house see for instance divorce and sometimes people don't want to get divorce papers  p s arrest which i think is important is the state of his b s arrest which is a civil arrest warrant for instance if you are in contempt of court one could go to the court and ask for k p s to issue and a constable be approved in that town to do it in the constable can yes i believe they can say matter whether these people are i guess sort of high character and if they've been doing it for a long time in their resumes look fine we just have to approve them to do this and bomb and no one else can do it if we don't inform one if we don't approve them  allowed to operate in their locale so i don't know if that's state or for local but i do know this is something that routine in other towns the only reason to not renew somebody i think is if you received a complaint of abuse of power or they were not falling down on the job none of which i've seen so good so we have it looks like there's three of them that are up that are up and there's no new applicants they've all been constable previously move a little concerned about the idea that the people who are not up for renewal this notices must reapply for bond when re appointed but maybe that just means that literally that it does you know which they they i want to switch seats with you why because i think one of the things that happened last time was i was talking to jim well and you were talking to my back and you know i feature the chair no but i kind of i kind of like the corner chair as of seven one seven right so julie jenkins is our chair it's in your back up and what exactly do they do we know what you give the charge for the cultural choice and secondly the second that applicant kathleen god dose indicated an interest in vision twenty one and one to keep that option open in addition to some others so i these people have applied for other positions that disability access commission meets so infrequently meet when something comes up that it's it's not a excessive burden if they happen to serve elsewhere my recommendation for this was that we approved mar clark erica michael in emily for the reasons you just articulated and i concur and for the public to know there were one two six there's  yes seven vacancies so this will fill two of them actually those ones resigning yeah it'll it'll reduce the number of vacancies to five so if anybody out there was interested in the disability access commission  meet the qualifications that phyllis described please let us know because they're still going to be five vacancies but i would move that we appoint mark clark erica sydell michael alonso and emily walsh to the disability access  prefer to you know as i said before i think floyd is a pillar of the community and a pillar of town government on the other hand if we have people with passionate as he s i think he can perform as an embarrassed you know if they if they come across something that they need his advice on all they have to do is call him and he'd be happy to and i think he's the town treasurer they can call him at any time and he will also keep in mind we put him on the retirement board so we his responsibility and we do have emily walsh who we just put on the disability access commission who i was referencing that just because they applied for two things disability meet so infrequently and actually the education scholarship committee doesn't meet year around so they're not heavy lifting if  applying would be excellent by the way in the grove and i think they'd appreciate it get the list of those in the low ok decide about you want to just for people who've done two terms or more why don't we have the lists of rest and see you know how many people are there and how many discuss the difference between the housing trust in the other housing authority housing yes yes you know i think that's because that's gloria's question yeah and there are ten members well that's not listed here so one two three  mercy and i don't know if you remember mark or if you know adam but he's responsible for the windows on the belmont savings bank building the parking lot because in one of the know i'm not i'm not taking it that way i'm just explaining that you know he's famous for different reasons and different in different tastes and that's one of them for me so how long has he been on this comm human rights yes indicated her interest and vision twenty one so that could still be on the lone tree hill shade i'm sorry in the shade tree committee as well which is what i was kind of thinking before her as opposed to me i think she's good i want to deploy her appropriately executive session for that by while i wonder whether i need to do more publicly so that the public understands that we have a planning committee that looks that had meaning for years so we can give a summary about that and i think i think to some extent  you know if i may when we had that meeting about the blackout i wanted to make sure that everybody understood what happened from the beginning to the end so that we didn't have a lot of hoo ha in the community with different ideas and the emergency plan went into went into effect on that day when we had two thousand two thousand houses out of there to do that and then everybody's got you know the fire department has its deal the police department has its deal the light hearted and has a history in many cases with regard to security it's not public you know it's not something that you do because you don't want to tell people what you're what you're going to do if something if x y and z happens but you are ready know that from your background so i think i think we can do police ok a permanent audit committee now interestingly enough all three of us have been to a permanent audit committee meeting mark was the liaison for years and i was and i was liaison for two years it's one of my favorite committees and  sorry ok so we voted and we did ok let's move on planning board planning board now what i thought about this was rather than burning our time on this discussion today because we have a list coming on monday don't  to happen i think i mean you know i'm one vote and then with regard to the new members you know it's going to require more discussion and i think it would you do see it differently there are we have one two three four five six people who have applied for two two slots one of whom is seeking a re appointment and one of whom is not right so i guess this is the one that's got the most activity and there's some good people it's kind of a tough one including barbara yako not excluding her from that pool of good people i'd rather rather than vote on the planning board at all i'd rather talk about it all holistically rather than eliminate one of the positions before i've had a chance to go through six people who've applied i mean that's a lot this is the most interest  clerk's office and and their appointments and so i believe the two that let me follow up on that that i know that the chair confirmed that somebody to the zoning board of appeals in advance of this process we couldn't we didn't want it one of the meetings we appointed somebody else to zoning because we knew the chairman was resigning ok there's a lot of this is my memory speaking i have no issue with the people who want to be reappointed anthony fraud to katherine jones matthew sullivan which will leave us to choose one of edward sanderson who we've talked about before or marcia samuels this is one of the situation i don't want you know if more is that the if that's the way we go yeah when we point marcia to the reckoning i mean that was going to be he would open for now and it was going it would be my recommendation would put marsh up samuel's on the recognition but my but that was the feeling that we would put edward on something the registrar of voters therefore this is coordinated through the town clerk's office i believe the registrar of voters never we have an election three are to miracle ok shade tree commission so we have we have four vacant memberships to resign one reappointing and then we have six and you're only putting three on so they're so so we still have for the public we have three vacancies then if you're interested in in this i think one of the interesting things about the shade tree commission i've been to a couple of hearings one about belmont center the trees that were next to the parking lot right and you know sometimes there's a lot of people there that in that case there wasn't very many people as myself and is the tree working on this don't i do a great guy i think they do really great work the shade tree committee because i think people in town the trees are very important and we are constantly being recognized from the signs you see when you drive into town being being a tree so itself is in my neighborhood you think you know it's terrific but him traffic announcer phyllis since we're talking about shade trees you know mind if i mention something as a recommendation for us to look at this this is the  phyllis you know this is right under the sign that says welcome to you know so i'm asking them if they'll take a look at see what they can do because all those all those plants are dead now and about the who does what i think it's great  know exactly ok all right so thank you for that phyllis traffic advisory so the chairman is joe griffin is it still didn't respond i don't think i don't think he was the chairman this is another one with a lot of activity that i was in this one and i should note the last two that we have are this one i believe in the zoning board of appeals other than the water advisory board which is nearly bigger than you know and i was still thinking and i'm still thinking about the vision twenty one in the they have now i mean i should i should know i was invited out to one of their meetings to brainstorm after i was elected and i went and i thought it was you know it's great what they're doing i think they're looking to get more active and they actually have two people on there who are relatively new to town who are bringing in new ideas i think this committee is really up for some revitalization ice while i was thinking it through i usually heard that because you know there was this comprehensive plan that was done in two thousand and ten and it's really a nice piece of consulting work but then it was never implemented but it's still here and a lot of the ideas are still relevant and then they've updated edition twenty one plan twice and we with mark and sammy and i we you know we went over the last revision and i think it's an important committee i think we have at least two or three short documents from them and and we should use them more and i have my meeting with them i am for size that they're the belmont vision twenty one implementation committee and i'd like to see some more implementation yeah they do a good job they also put together the meat belmont which is coming up in august right which is great but i'd like to see i'd like to i think there are there's a thirst on their part to do more so that's why i think this is an important appointment i want to think through some more especially since i want him somewhere but he has a point he's going for this in the zoning board and i wasn't thinking both so i haven't decided where you know him yes ok good so i will he'll go somewhere i just eric smith is the vacancy in the full membership it typically i used to be on the zoning board i was an associate member then i was bumped up to full member so it's traditional to sort of bump up one of the associate members i don't know if you wanted to bump up someone other than gone and put  at which i'm so sure membership where they do their alternate is if if you are five your five members of those only board and several alternates if the full member doesn't show up then they alternate can vote in their place they alternate to participate in the debate and the air at the table the board that gloria is your legal background it's not required but it's helpful it's but it has less discretion than the planning board yes i don't know about that it has a different reach a really challenging day and all of that is job governed by staff and you know special permits or special permits whether it's the planning board make it as a special permit granting authority or it's the zoning board of appeals they they do the same votes on special permits and variances is just that some have just one there was one associate member there were two i was there with marty cohen as an associate member for a while if they've waxed and waned in the number of associates but you have to have the five we have to replace eric somewhere i see eric go i'm very sorry he ran he was  for a year to do scott maybe a business committee that would then because one of the issues that i've heard a lot is that belmont has a lot of barriers to doing business here and to have a committee put together for a discreet period time or it would start and it would end and go away and that they would then go and ice and study in the town and talk to business people and others who apply for permits and stuff what's the hold up and what the issues are and give us a report as to what we have in town that's considered anti business if you will and how those can be resolved so then we could start tackling those but that's really the will to do but i think there are i think we had a committee that was that started and then didn't have this one charge and that they had business people on it for instance there are people who are on town town meeting who are also owned businesses in town i think that would be good to have them on to get their perspective to get business people when it's that idea i think e t c that had been their charge they got the r know the center of reconstruction and i think we've been working to change you know to change the charges and i've received a couple of  new charge but look what we i don't think we should do it in august august is not the time to do it let's talk about it with them in september i was thinking of just having a clean slate and starting fresh with this as the charge having it start and stop so there's a linger on for years with no autonomy and there are more committed you know at this point not talking about individuals i'm talking about the committee itself and i know but you know they they would like to do what you just described and we have not we suspend within the country to be i don't think we have to do anything in connection with the committee process and i like the idea of your idea but i'd like to talk more about it with them and you know way forward if we can in september for i know spoke with them but i don't think if it hadn't come back to this like you know we could get a list like we have for the other committees like who's on it the kid how long they've been on it when their term is up that sort of thing so we can figure out what we're doing seven has to be nice and legal but i want to make sure everybody is legally road in the state built the sidewalks and then the sidewalks fell apart over the winter and then that began to impact all the businesses you know marcantonio you come around you know it was it was it was a mess over there and then we had we had people dumping things on the cushing village site george paul reminded me this week that we spent last summer on cushing village which we had a meeting like every three weeks right where we had to extend the  the contract and or the permits and and so what happened was you know that kind of committee couldn't handle the kinds of things that we were dealing with you know in their in  their committee it had to come it had to come to us and so we said ok fine we're just going to say you know let's leave it where it is for now it's still a good idea and we'll look for a way forward and so let's do that and so i tell myself i found it by saying what i think we need to do is if do the pension study they were given a day a deadline it got done by the deadline if a deadline is provided i find people kind of you know well more focused it wasn't that an official act of the economic development committee but i did work with them and the government center committee business committee on the parking question that came up over the farmer's market and you might have noticed that there was no more turmoil after that first meeting to remember the first meeting of meetings you know so the reason for that is that we reached out to the farmer's market we reached out to the real estate ownership and you know counted parking lots our parking spaces and spent some time and so it's it's almost kind of prevention activity that that's taken place in the last year because we had a propeller road we had cushing square we had belmont center and then we had the parking lot problem  ages different backgrounds who can pull the work i'm sure i'm sure the principles would support that ok is there anything else for today anybody yet do you have something else we have been  been working with public works has been in contact with folks at the bank and we have been trying we have a tentative plan in place we need to until sunday on monday morning when public would come in like sign so the bank has drafted a sample sign for us to look at and we're doing that now reviewing it with community velleman and then him once we get everybody on board with that we will look to do a pilot for the remainder of the summer so i don't have an effective date for you yet hopefully they'll be the first weekend in august only concern is the safety one of them assuming the police can figure it out because when you come down more and cars are parked on the right and you take that right in front of them with savings it's very hard to see if there's a big car there and i don't want someone to come whipping around and run through the sign and hit somebody who's expecting no cars because the signs not visible until the last second so if the sign would be put out in the driveway so are something more than a sign like an actual there's a big problem areas we had talked about  know one thing i've had projects that have done because those are tractable bollards really pull up when they like mechanically go into the ground is expensive but i've also seen where they have bollards that just screw into a preexisting sleeve in the ground and then you want to screw them when you don't want them that's not mechanical so it's much cheaper and i don't know the meaning of having a hole in the ground so that if you talk to the restaurants you know because i think you know saturday night you know saturday night parking you know and people i think it's true that you know it was agreed that you know we would look into this but it's also true that the plan to close it down permanently was done without talking to people who didn't want that done and there are also people in town who think that that road is still too narrow because it's very difficult to drive through if there's if there's somebody parked there so it's not it's still a tale of two cities in my opinion and i'm concerned about parking i'm concerned about the restaurant in the corner i'm concerned about because sadly not so much for sunday but for saturday night maybe so that's part of the reason we were trying to come up with a solution that we could try out your period this summer if the ok are you there are certainly many challenges and  little consideration and for me the same way kathy was upset that you know that the library trustees were informed of the project that was that brought before the planning committee i think you know for us not to talk to the restaurant before we do this you know we need to do we need to tell that doma us business community that this is what we're thinking about you know because we don't we don't want to just do it and then and then find out what we think we can tell them what we're going to do in your community and issues important you know exactly because that's exactly what happened on the farmer's market and in fact that's what happened on belmont center all they had to do was talk to the people you know who were concerned about closing the bypass and you know the remember closing it for the summer was part of the code no i don't know jim it was it was closing it saturdays and sundays during the summer months that said no not not monday through friday or friday even you know i think that's how we something and i just you know i'm saying i'm saying we have to talk to the restaurant obviously we should but if they say no we can end well but we know that's that's that's why you talk to them so that you don't have a you don't have a problem afterwards which is how we got into this problem in the first place on the getting is this agreement if the people who had proposed the closing of it had talked to the people who didn't want it closed then we wouldn't have wasted the summer of two thousand and fifteen on that question so you have to remind me of the owner's name of foodies space having cap and you remember when he came that night and he was he was you know he was animated snow don't you remember that i think i think you know and so then we spent like three weeks with them we had to follow up meeting him brought his attorney everybody had their say it all worked out and that's how you have to do it for the occasion sometimes gets in the way you know it will affect them for you so i think if we had worked i don't know whether we work more closely with kevin that we might have been avoided i agree w should talk to the businesses but also in firmly committed to do we close in the street i think we could talk to the businesses about the hours and if we need to get the permission to close it so the reason i'm raising it today is that we need a plan to set off the street so driveway and so that's what i'm sharing with you we have been working with the bank in terms of signing and but we still need to finalize some things and so good idea for a trial period where we can see how it works and that doesn't involve installation of any but with the billing this has to do well i'm hoping to have it in august and part of september but i think go wrong and you know that's the problem they go wrong if you don't spend the time what's not just approval of meeting minutes for march i think we ha i were your professors which i'm not but if i was i give you an a plus for the copy you know you know for for what's written i respect these things are really good however having said yes on the discussion with fourth i don't think the descriptions of those amendments or any of them are literally correct and what i would ask you to do is to check with the retirement board and make sure you know that what's described as actually what they are it's close but it's not exact do you see when i went to the recording to get that i will certainly be glad to you know with the retirement yeah we can do this off i'll tell you outside  it's reported in the minutes that i asked john beilein the question about the immigration status of students in our school district but his response is not recorded in i didn't know what the standard for minutes is i mean i the municipal light advisory board and the the advice that they were able to give to this on material that committee is that the minutes should be detailed enough so that someone not attending the meeting can understand what happened so i didn't know whether our standard was you know i asked the question and you know we don't report the answer you know it's just reporting the question enough or should we also report the recording ok to verify that but that's normally what especially with content where there is specific detail discussed so i will review that ok but normally what happens question not because i'm the chairman but because i'm a selectman that you know i know he answered the question so i just i know what the standard was for the minutes and if it's to include the response that i'd like to have the response and glued it and sometimes it's forbade him and sometimes we just you know i don't think you said that you were going to you know in the we're going to hear far as a proposal it's at the end what i think you said and what i heard you say was that you wanted to see a proposal that had the six hundred foot driveway that's what i thought you said but i i could be wrong do you remember did you look at the tapes again and on and then he actually say he would but as against it really between you and sam where i thought that what you said was that you wanted to see the plan you know the sexuality of the six hundred foot driveway and in that without that we couldn't we couldn't decide even though probably unnecessarily so that there are three other meetings that which is partly why the we're so far behind because we have other meetings regarding the same sort of survey questions that have a lot of detail to and that's so i will review the specific broadcast of this meeting again and keep in mind i'm hoping that i will have the april third meeting before you well  you know how much your involvement was because you know i you're doing so many other important things and it's not that these aren't important because when something comes up you know all the sudden you go back and look at the minutes and you want to see what's in the minutes and it's particularly important before there were tapes you know because the tapes are obviously very helpful but yeah i think i think one of the things that occurred to me was that we have april may june and july the go no right if we do and it's not like you don't have any other things to do it can you get some help doing this so that you don't have to do or is it something that only you can do while they're generated by lisa and then i as i described earlier depending on the content of the meeting and the particular issues that come up we if some require more review than others and they say are you doing them in date order or so in other words what i'm thinking is can you the board of survey think they they withdrew right so it's not it's not something that's on our desk it's not something that's happening in august it's not something that's happening in september and i agree that the level of detail in those meeting minutes needs to be you know spot o so but that doesn't mean that you couldn't put them aside and do the other ones to see what i mean you know it because you don't have to do it in date order necessarily when you say that mark yes agreed you know and i'm not being critical at all i'm just i'm looking for some