had one of the other anybody wish to testify at this moment please come forward you have three minutes twenty i will see with an environmental assessment determination on the final environmentalists estimate prepared in support of the community plan amendment for the party a courtyard project located it t m k two five five personal sixty three and  n the action before the commission today is to consider accepting the final e a and making a finding of no significant impact determination and kurt wallander is your staff planner good morning members of the planning commission pleasure to be with your morning there are a couple of items today and we're going to take a look into the world of environmental assessment and environmental impact  statement now the members here have seen actually this first project some of the members are new with regards to looking at the environmental process so i always find it useful just to sort of ask ourselves why are we for a project and by way of trying to provide transparency to the commissioners who weren't here in the staff report that i had prepared for the project  court yard and it manager david speedie i put the minutes of the november two thousand and fourteen minutes in for the members who weren't here and i put the comments that the money planning commission directed to the applicant and the package along with the comments from the urban design review board so this project is in no way something new has been reviewed by this commission in two thousand and fourteen with super bowl of detail and also by the urban design review board  that being said today's action is actually looking at the draft final environmental assessment and environmental assessment or indeed in the case of our second item today an environmental impact statement which has more detail is a information document this document is going to be used from with this committee throughout the entire process so in actuality this is kind of the first start for both of these projects this committee is a district boundary and then a community plan amendment and a change in zoning so today's purpose is to determine is the environmental document for the project that will be presented by mr c is it a complete document that all of you can use and further deliberations so that being the case what exactly is the pioneer courtyard project just to highlight it's going to be sixty two story mixed use retail office buildings with nine upper storey residential units fifty six independent senior living apartments and support the syllabi and i should note that actually the project now has been modified some bath which was reviewed in two thousand and fourteen and that's actually less intensive so there has not been any increases in intensity that would affect the environment that would not have been reviewed by this body in two thousand and fourteen they'll be creating another  improvements of course to support this project and importantly there is going to be an approximately three hundred nine parking lot something that is actually critical and all of you know if you've ever been there in the afternoon or evening with enough stalls for all of the proposed uses in the course that would be required to have to have parking for the senior housing and the office but also they're going to have at the current time forty four stalls in excess of forty four boundary so this project is within what the county council believes development should be directed that being the case and i can come back after the presentation with your action alternatives but just to highlight what today's role would be you could accept final environmental assessment and issue a finding of no significant impact which is commonly known as the on the and then the applicant was sent to the office of environmental quality control or a period of comment for thirty days and after that then it will be deemed accepted and we can now move on to the next step for the public hearing process of the  hearing today with your permission i'll have mr david be introduced to their team and also give you a detailed look into the project site and we move the retention basin to the lower portion of the property for over overflow water the part is actually there will be three hundred nine stalls on site  housing design features more protocols to meet the definition of senior housing all the senior housing will be handicapped accessible wheelchair accessible all walkway that connects the senior housing over the commercial side the market we've been playing with bogo as the property will only be provided to those fifty restrictions apply to the tenants if they want to own a unit they want to lease it it will be a strict requirement fifty five the number three review the design of  c and the comment from this committee was that that's pretty industrial and that they they wanted to see something more in town line with the pension guidelines i've talked to the solar companies and the plans aren't in there yet and when we go to building permit them to work with the solar company they will actually design the whole structure in the implementation as part of their process of selling like tricycle so we will work with them and comply with all country town guidelines to have the relationship between the businesses restaurants commercial enterprises and that of senior housing i think that from my perspective is this is really what i see in this development is that this is a purpose that the commercial businesses will support the people in the senior housing and i've already talked with doctor who wants to come in and talk to health that wants to come in with alternative medicine first wind bank is interested in coming into the project has become a town of restaurants galleries and religious and it doesn't support the community balls that are like ball bearings and people will slip and fall within the park so we remove those we remove remove a couple different other plants that were in the plan that are now considered invasive and we will stay on top of although the site is located in a prime agricultural resource land directed regional growth to the site and requiring compact country town design will help preserve other agricultural lands and open spaces and prevent the continuation of the current trend of low it complements the existing community expansion should be designed as providing multi modal connections between existing and new into other areas of the island development within the expansionary should include a mix of presidential  sprawl out of the communities staying within defined boundaries creating a community of mixed use is where the majority of the seniors and and walk to the services that they want and where they want to recreate sound so i'm open to questions and i'm asking this commission to prove finally so that we can move forward to the next round as pointed out where they'll be public comment you you allocate in some areas and some stalls for public use what will likely happen is that part of the problem is that probably seventy percent of the current space and provide two hundred nine commercial stalls so the commercial space exactly the same amount of park so one the increased availability of park just that is i may release forty stalls demonic food which would be validated parking for mana food and you take a business that provides that has no car and you give that business its part there are numerous yes there is and that profit motive helps pay the real property taxes that i can tell you are very large for country town business land in town it helps the county tax base and just the mere fact that the parking is there and it parked in their stall all day and then there my tenant is angry that they parked in their stall all day and since i put in that i don't walk the parking lot every morning and pick up the garbage i mean it's it's amazing the difference of what's happened since i've done it and the pieces with all my tenants in the building free parking is something that i think we all have been used to over time but at least on the north shore  made up and now it services my clients and my tenants clients and i don't have this i think it's just reality you have very expensive properties you need to pay for the maintenance and upkeep and  business because of the old style of the town it was never designed for really the automobile or the number of automobiles there are now so you have all these businesses that were grandfathered in a lot of th grandfathered so they're putting that requirement on those businesses and there's a tremendous stress on the county line if you if you look at the business and especially restaurants where it's have a stall per hundred square feet  as i believe the clinical labs would come in if the buildings are there and i'd really like to dedicate to the buildings to medical know unless you're coming down baldwin avenue from above and you can see one of the systems up there but what will design with in the parking lot in this is going to have to go with the county code on shade trees because if you do you're required to have shade tree i think for every four stalls that replacing the shade trees with covered park and as an attorney i'm the attorney for risings unsolder which is now been the number one solar company in the state of hawaii and we've talked about if they design a system they'll actually build the covered parking because the the economics just to get the solar on what i would invision is flat roof covered parking that is unobtrusive to the eye that provides electricity to the senior housing and the commercial in my building battery backups of the power goes out and within second a pretty green guy and i i envision every square foot we can put solar we put solar until we supplied the project and having green charging stations for electric need to stay with the microphone barry said we have a portable one commercial development there is you can come through the courtyard and make your way over and there will be a ramp that goes down this side this is what this is this is a ramp that takes you down into pi your town in the parking lot or you could come around this side of the development in come down no currently there is no sidewalk along from the post office down to here the sidewalk ends right here so we would grade away in create enough space for a large sidewalk and then the thirteen parking stalls if the county wants them to parallel park in baldwin avenue so access would be through the development this would be covered walkway with speed bumps to keep the cars slowing down  and then down through here and then the other way would be through the development in and out if there's ever access through the  in the center is the parking that's right and there's parking for the the senior housing wraps up around here this is the bus stop for the senior housing in this area what i was looking at was you see a senior housing  access getting out into there rather than the long walkway going through there and i'm more inclined to you why is that this is this is hillside here with just spectacular views across from the hey all the way across to the ocean the west maoris and so the design element and looking out and kind of the privacy of having the pool and everything here also the delineation and security when we're thinking about fancy is potentially having having this section for the seniors that this would be walled off and you really create a privacy and security issue delineating the parking so that the company you know this is this is  privacy and view is more important to me and having the commercial the commercial on this side the seniors on that side and if they they want to get across really making this a sense of secure walkway to integrate to and i don't think that distance is going to be that great you're really talking you know probably twenty stalls wide and keeping that separation between the two access off the pay you mean by pass they'd like to have that here back we did the engineering on the numbers we can easily keep all the water on site in fact it's designed that the water would never reach that  lot which are big around perforated pipe with gravel and claw underneath that we can retain all the water and in the sixteen years i've had my building with those simple traders i've never had an overflow flux the county is in charge of the road right now under the license alliance so it's all part of negotiation and where it ends and ultimately i hope there's a sidewalk this all the way through and down to  and then there are the required amount of handicap excuse me any cap stalls in the senior area but there's designated parking in the sr so it's essentially open to all the  other people that live there but there are dedicated especially right in front of the morgan have a little post office box right by the swimming pool there so there's there's three stalls there that are handicapped so you can pull in get your mail and pull out and go back to your own you know there's there's county size and there's actual car sized right now are are there is are is are drawn that eight and a half feet wide so they are that they are a little bit narrower they  narrower version of it but what we're trying to do is provide as much parking as possible so it's always a you know it's always like how do you how do you manage to get as much parking as possible in the same time provide ample space but there are many of the units in the senior housing have their own buy or rent a unit you can also buy or rent a garage so those are wider and so there's there's a lot of flexibility within the senior housing area parking goes and we provided more parking in the senior area than the one one parking stall for every one and a half units i believe is where the county rules are so we have provided more parking so there will be extra spaces within the senior housing areas it's my opinion that the number of stalls for senior housing isn't as part and as the size of the stalls just the bill ability you know i mean senior citizens are like a little bit larger safer cars and their doors open up a little wider and i mean you know that's just the reality of it and and having that even to have you know compact stalls like we just found out we parked in today outside you know it's i think that's a that's a condition for you know for quality of living for the senior citizens of the stress you know trying to get into a parking reversing three or four times to get is that that's just my opinion thing and what we can do is we can look at eliminating some of the parking stalls and then providing you know like certain parking spaces you see whether it's like an eighteen inch space that's been striped out your wheels fit within the slot and there's an eighteen inch extra space between all of the of the stalls we can look at eliminating a few of our stalls and adding that to the parking lot that's something we can certainly deal with and if you know the commission wants us to do that we will do that and we do have the extra spaces where the retention pond in is not an option because it's way it's thirty feet below the parking of the senior housing so it wouldn't be an option for to provide more park underground and the supports you sir i mean we're talking millions and millions of dollars i get with the boat is here for the garage and so now you're turning in just to support of that type of structure ten dollar an hour party five dollar an hour parking which i when you talking about seniors most of the senior housing around this area they have assigned part of the reason for it is seniors tend to forget where they're going to go the commercial and more than code requirements on the on the c so there is that flexibility so you do have a fine for the senior citizens you bet i will and i will absolutely they will be assigned parking for the seniors one and it is our hope that within the phase one will support two and three and i've got two banks that are kind of chomping at the bit so i'm not worried about financing side on well hopefully the way we will set up the project in the face of it is to build the infrastructure first the parking lot and do three of the buildings probably these three buildings to start the project it's a big project face two would be the senior housing and then finish it up going back to the commercial with these three and it would be pretty much a  he went all over the island and took pictures of just about every small town line and played with all those different architectural styles to create this is so there's a little bit of the whole island within the commercial side of the  things specially now that now that i qualify for senior housing and what can i say about this project so the recommendation of the department after reviewing the file and by mental assessment and concluding that the my point commission called back to order thank you chair this is a request from like a properties and we'll see william as celio trustee of the william s julio separate property trust dated april third two thousand and my only nine o five partners a little c four comments on the draft environmental impact statement for each state land use district boundary amendment and anticipated applications for a community plan amendment change in founding and project district approvals for the proposed why coup country town project located at t m k three six moving into a different world now now we're moving into a project that exceeds fifteen acres in scope and there because there is a trigger with the community plan amendment and because there is a  previous application to this one are that the applicant in working with the state land use commission and that meeting on april twenty ninth two thousand and fifteen the applicant requested moving directly to any because of the in addition i put the decision or the land use commission in the case that they are going to be the accepting authority so what does this mean for this commission out of courtesy for this commission we're asking for your comments that we drafted in a letter form given to the applicant for a response again as michelle's indicated this is the beginning of a very long process and in fact the applicant has already spent years working with the community even get to this point  zoning and most likely project district approval and that will move on to the county council so today really what the role of the commission is is to listen to the presentation  and their team and then to make comments to the applicant on questions you have that you'd like to see addressed in the environmental impact statement so i guess with those overview of the powerpoint presentation morning german commissioners thank you very much my name is mike atherton and i'm a managing partner who properties wiley nine o five and we are the ago this is a copy of the consultant team and i have some consultants today with me my top consultants mike summers phil mitchell station and these are all the other consultants and sub consultants are sixteen altogether the agenda of the day will be the purpose for the project project description and will invest question and sustainable community residents value agricultural land and open space residents desire to protect maui's beauty sense of place and  here's the view from the mountainside looking across the street and that's a former cane field there are white town and these are the neighboring land uses you can see we're number five the mayor and start the regional park idea he's been able to commit over three hundred acres and then you have the wiley projects of the north and then you have the port ninety project on the very top there i think number nine those are the three the blue on top of the yellow small country town to rural parts parts and then the lower on the left blue is off course lots that have been there for quite a long time central m schools parks and open space in a hundred acre agricultural pervert with about seventy one thousand seventy seven acres to remain in agriculture and what i've done is i've agreed with the community to dedicate eight hundred acres of open space in perpetuity and exchange for community involvement here's the here's the plan the projects about sixteen hundred acres altogether this area or this area here preserve as sherry here is the county regional park this is the extension of while the row right here which is a project been ongoing for quite a long time it's a federal county state point space here of course on the quarry i agreed with community and agreed with mollie county if i dedicate this this is walls will see in this part of my  sustainability have been pretty good about trying to put together a project that's sustainable i was one of the very first fellows it did our chargers we have four of them out there i love them their blue lights on top of a thing supplies cars are parked in the night we do all our own water we propose to do a wastewater treatment plant that will recycle the water into our water move use it in our ag park so we are very sustainable in the sense that we use solar for all the water pumping and we plan to incorporate solar into the rooftops of all the homes and the project very much into hydroelectric in the water system and maybe are this is distain sustainability plan it's a complete community housing employment schools parks and neighboring neighborhood settings proximity close to regional serving employment and facilities walking and biking over eight miles of bike trails and walking past so we'll be able to have a park parking lot you can take a mile walk it will have water your need for possible water and allows you to have a lot more open space because now you have the water so it's a good plan i learned a long while back in areas that are susceptible to drought and we do renewable energy solar wind hydro potential energy crops energy efficiency we do into the building design we build green we use green materials we have agricultural lands one thousand and seventy seven acres to remain  commercial areas parking lots and i have no intentions of charging so that's one thing about m c p at the park free ones i'm here this will be the center of the beginning of the community of the town this is the senior project here the senior condos two and three story buildings with live work will be lost that will be commercial down on the first floor primarily commercial to serve the community the visitors will come and check it out live work condos share their work condos here commercial commercial here and here this is a rendering of what look like the build out filled out could take ten to twenty has a senior part of the project senior project before steve restricted fifty five very similar to what you heard earlier today looking from the restaurant across the lagoon to the senior housing uncrossed and left quite a bit of open space in the here and in here as if you noticed in the project there's a large amount of open space that's one of the reasons for the good water system it's hard to have a lot of landscaping when you're using pot of water to irrigate it so i've designed an ag water system in my water a view from over the senior housing looking out across the lawn across the lagoon and down into the restaurant which is down here then a little bit of history out there we were able to save  program i got a tool one h a portable housing project right here as soon as i get some infrastructure i'll get started on that i've got condos here and then i've got what i call main street which is going to be sugarcane  lane roundabouts i like roundabouts and then this will all be live work here and here and then this is condos and some commercial here is your condos and this is single family lot we have a lot of open space walkable trails here a walking frailest here are very fortunate that i was able to be part of that process and we're still talking about it all the time this is agricultural masterplan and that's very important because i 'm an old farmer and i have to farm is a very good hearing why they've been arm and wide over thirty years in the arms and this is all open space and we have your past was there that went away came back so we're going through the process will probably be through the planning commission here in the near future with this plant across the street i have the most terrible  whom will be in here and i have two areas six year where i do a community garden and i would encourage people in the community to come and be part of the community garden it is a couple times it works out pretty good and then we have a farmer's market here i  ditchwater we lost eight c m s we had sixteen hundred acres again on this ranch and i was fortunate to have coon bobby take over for them so i'm trying to make lemonade out of lemons on the farm in there and get the lamb back and as fast as i can also have to agricultural wells we left water and put it in the ditch so and we will recycle all of our waste water into our one use for every culture and landscape  that's a project this is a d i y as in the in the book but you'll see the sufficient information to determine the impacts to development impacts this is all the environmental this is all environmental milestone of the project this is where we are and to get on it will probably take us another three years maybe four also i want to let you know there is a website  us i have the brochure tells a pretty good story and then we did the condensed version of the us and i believe the future will all be web internet for big large documents  easier to look at a pretty good website i'm proud of this is all in your packet any information you need on these type of things mental physical environment human environment communities idea for six thousand square foot lots a lot of the design of this project was done in conjunction with the like a commune in the president's offer support to let you know that that's is we very first thing i did was went to the community and all the neighbors and i said what do you think and they said we'll so we we got together know and there's a lot of tradeoffs here there's a lot of tradeoffs  a big agricultural promotion program or we can actually make a work i mean it's not just talk i've got two successful farmers and i've got a lot of history and so i like to buy a large place that has a lot of land so we can go back to the community with why would i want to do this because this this this and this was a lot of reasons that we've been able to give back in the community recognize that and i'm also on the other acre park right there behind wipe on thirty to be some nice views there and then there's the community which was very supportive of the of the landscaping in the buffers and the open space was positive though i've been out there for a long time now so they most people know about thank you mike commissioner robinson and the question we able to requests open public testimony so we can encourage public testimony but so if there is a resource person who is willing to come up and answer a question you can ask them if i do that cool water system and what it did was when we bought like two ranch we bought the ground water rights from the only ones who did it and i drilled five large wells  in so there was a designated field of over three million gallons a day so i was able to build a water system over the last five years that has three domestic wells and two agricultural wells so complete system we will provide all our own water for the project through a private water system and i continue to work with the farm and water supply and am be on a regional system that would be beneficial to everybody right now we're still private water system until we get consensus from home and that's my supply and then i i really have a lot more water than i really need so there be some excess water there we are almost entirely well o good trip a kid well it's considered a backup system where you have a backup because we have a million gallon tank for storing the same probably maybe five hundred thousand gallons a day of build out would be your total water usage for the whole town and then i want to recycle the water in the water treatment plant wastewater treatment plant and use it for ag and landscape have that size community you have an elementary school called acres which is great for the park what do you think the population would generate for student population them and the location that is out on the planet is kind of elevated on a hill so it's something that you're going to see from my perspective if you have a large a lot we own the land we exchange into a we don't buy land on long term and we build all our equity ourselves i do everything myself and we put in all the now is that housing is like seven hundred thousand five hundred to seven hundred thousand dollars and there's nothing affordable that the next generation can buy into and call believe that issue the finding of significant impact just like you folks did today for the earlier project the state issued the funds in that case and then there was a legal challenge to that fonzie by the marline community association and soon the reason why i want to get some information on that because i think it's great that you're putting on that reserve i think meaningful hopes that's just my personal opinion and i you know and with infrastructure and where we're going you know that's i mean it's not i don't want all expensive but i would in to support connecting that to the current white community association area which is about probably two three acres we have a river park right here now we have water in the stream every day you the county to build a new community center an aquatic center and move it a little bit away from this existing neighborhood right here these people came to a meeting when we talk about expanding what we already have so the answer question on the pool is i would work to have a community pool now it's difficult when you don't have the county help on the community pools because pools are our maintenance situation they're not used to t so there is an opportunity to build a real nice river park there with a couple of bridges across and in it is a great spot that's why we have this whole space here it's also the dead center waica pool because yours old like a right down this road right down sugarcane laying down sugarcane lane down here at your water main and then in the same time we put in the sure and we are currently working with stacy and his team on where as a proper location somewhere in this area or we have eleven acres right here that i left out for that particular reason i'm not quite sure that's best  a main and while the road there's an eight inch main weikel road so would be able to do these rural lots right here would be able to do this sort of group a lot right here would be able to put in the seniors project would be able to awesome in the structure is very very expensive so that's why when you're being in the business it helps if you can do a lot of value engineering it's very important we're not really too so what i think you just described to me is that is the last part of this project my misunderstanding you know what would be first ever starts we're going to be able to build anything right in the air now the first thing so this would probably be the first thing you would see how we're talking with the county and i got a meeting death of morrow up this road because we need that for traffic mitigation we need for him production we need it for a lot of things but if there's some reason the bridge is going to take an extra year to in the environmental process we will put in sugarcane lane you'll be able to access the park that way the county can get started here we can build the tool one age we can build a marker for a condo there we can do workforce housing right here single family we can do work for chiles in condominiums we like to to build multiples condominiums engineers there's a whole the whole traffic studies on the website you can see that this is one address regional traffic issues is so forth because with fourteen hundred units i can see that existing levels of service without the project levels of service with improvements with the project specific points in time where the burdens are on the infrastructure and what the mitigation package so that information in the in the the traffic study has been circulated to state the o t and public works we have not yet received comments from either of those organizations which is pretty unusual because the comment period and a couple of months ago so we're still trying to work with them to get those comments there have been some comments by other folks that have commented on this project not so much about the details of where the impacts are of the issue of when the infrastructure would be in place and what the impact would be if the infrastructure was in the place we're currently addressing those comments because we have those  but again the these are very very thorough analysis it is being reviewed by the county part of the public works and the state department of transportation we expect that we're going to receive a lot of details question on the study as i mentioned we have received some questions we're working on addressing those we do not have our traffic engineer with us and you know i'm probably not the guy to go through a detailed analysis of traffic impacts but we will certainly have our traffic engineer with us in the future as we go through the entitlement process and as we go through the state land my looks for that i'd like to say one thing nice about traffic and we still need to comment so we can take it to the next level but we're fortunate that we have the last fifteen years i've been planning to build this extension of wiley road and the stays in the and federal government have plans to have four lanes all the way from air all the way down here all the way into town and while the road follows the o'kane all roads there were the jail is down all the way up to the bridge for me so we're fortunate to have this traffic i'm proven in the near future and we have the existing and i'm you know i'm just going to reiterate i mean this traffic study when we're talking about the mitigation is six pages long and i could go through eight intersections and talk about widening roads all of these different things  it would take quite some time and i don't think it would be totally fruitful unless we had a powerpoint to show you the intersection locations where the impacts are how the level of service changes  pm and the impact of the project have somebody that can really give you an overview detail if you'd like i could read through this but it would take some i give you that opportunity or in your comments to us you can suggest that in our next presentation we have a presentation  comfortable we located where the destinations are in our projects and how those destinations relate to our neighborhoods our commercial districts so that we can provide those linkages so we have put a lot of thought i want to talk about the  people people before you have had great intentions look at country states money about these great agricultural nice lots that have been turned into sort of gentleman estates  incorporates agriculture as close as you can i don't want to get real close sometimes because agriculture and and living sometimes may have been other issues so what i've done is put together a program that encourages agriculture right here in the in the in the media approximate proximity so there would be another thing on the on the rural lots as i build the paths so you build on a flat  in twenty five homes one in one twenty one homes and for that same area you know we could put one hundred to one homes and again this is not an attack you're doing a great job but i want to i want to you know share i'm coming from it's it's it's the area that we have these these rural lads have natural rainfall it's a good place to have somebody in an area that could actually grow their own without being a full on agricultural or a culture you know  and and that's what i was hoping that you know has some type of you have some type of plan where you can incorporate all these people to not really be an agricultural reports a business like the people are kind of public office of course but it would enable them to have some type of agriculture on that two acres i have a three acre lot that you know it's just barely enough to get something going but of course it was back to cattle but i understand that but this property up there it's a beautiful prime property and i'm just so we tried to really become sustainable and recycle and solar and alternative energy as much as i would i would promote agriculture on these two acre lots they would have to local water system a lot of that was part of the tradeoff that we took all of the ditch water that we use in this neighborhood and put it back on the screen there's a little bit more users in the meantime until they moved down here so we thought it would be there for a while longer so we were planning on moving to this recently so we're in that plan now going down there especially mike is there anything was took me a long time you wouldn't believe my first meeting and then like i said oh my seen a lot of projects come through us a lot of them are much smaller and skilled in what you guys have and my concern is that we don't have a traffic engineering address a concern and this is the last time we're going to see the c i s before you guys come back so mu this war without having any sort of traffic engineer here having a summary if this commission approves it we do run the risk you know when we come back c yeah there's going to be more issues possibly so i just want to bring it out to the commissioners and it's up to the commission what i want to handle this commissioner the district zoning for the entire site that would include the land and if you're not familiar with project district zoning it would be designing that applies to the entire property that is tailor made for that property so you don't have to think about what's allowed in the residential district or the business district it's all in one ordinance for this property that is tailor made to it so a lot size is building setbacks other development standards tailor made for this when when you see to commend you for going out to the community community and communicating with them i think that's all in part and for any developer to be in tune with the community and their needs so thank you for going out i believe it's five of the communicator i don't understand why they don't communicate or really with everybody everybody who's going to be in all the projects i'd open wants to stop a project but i think it will masses trius is just to feel more comfortable with the comments we don't want to slow it down but it's it's a lot for us as commissioners to grasp that two volumes took two years to put together and to have want this is what we want to say to the lead commission it might be zero it might be we went home and we read it ok now we understand it don't have comments but i think that's kind of what you know each person has a completely different factors and i don't think i think it's a it's a stop vote or come to us probably past ten years in fact the first time i was the president ten years ago he approached us and we do appreciate him a lot of he works with us and like you said when he first started the project i mean he had homes all the way up all the way up to the reservoir the very first meeting i think it was he said he didn't want to discussion i'm looking at the memo for the items for your next meeting and there are four public hearing items and you have to hold the money coming back again so i don't think we'd be able to do this is do you know when their next the next menus commission is there on the agenda for them oh that's going to be quite a while because there has to be testimony reports written and there has to be we can debate that if they're not going to be from the news commission for sixty days and it gives us forty five days to think of a comment we still have plenty of time to say no comment for the commission for the that's what i'm trying to ask if you having one witness for a project this big is amazing to me it's not a bad thing but you know it's very little input for something so large when we have somebody that's going to you know rent up a three efforts in trying to get this project going i would say it should   look through then but for an hour i would agree with you guys if we were the party that were stopping these this project from going forward we've just heard from county staff we are not stopping anything us postponing this fifteen days thirty days forty forty five days will not do anything but encourage other people to add more input when that in the end result would help the envelop or get through these things quicker and if any come is coming up later i am not for slowing this project down i'm for trying to speed it up because this this time that we have right now waiting for this to go to the land commission more calm as we can get now and get this to the developer the sooner it can be addressed and hopefully when they go to the you see that can move even faster and that is my goal my goal is not to slow down this this great project for this area it's just to make sure that we have enough comments that we have time for untested but let's give ourselves some time to look at it and also give the public some time to come back in the next fifteen to thirty days so that we mike can attack this like he's done for nine years and be in head first with people and so we have a motion you want to direct your own or a piece in motion please the motion on the floor is to defer action today so the next level that wasn't specific typically just like the project it simply is is this document complete with the letter is simply now i planning commission believes that this document addresses environmental impact and that would be the letter if you wish to have th take action on the district boundary amendment and if they approve that then it would come to you to make a recommendation to the county council on the community plan amendment and the change in which includes a project that would go to the county coun i'm apologizing i can't support it because i haven't fully read the document i'm not going to vote on something and agree to a statement i feel that compass is everything for the project for moving the project ahead and mmissioner donny i think that if they're not going to be able to spend the required amount of