gluten sensitivity in this country i have as my guest jeff weiner who is the owner of evens market which is a completely gluten free shop and in the south hills and jeff is also a member of the and in this country here the sad part is less than seventy five percent of people are diagnosed with celiac it's most of the bloodwork in most of the biopsies her taken or come back is a false negative so point don't know what to do or how further to go with it can you explain a little bit more specifically i read in just the other day i think it's one in a hundred thirty three individuals are affected with celiac disease  it in over in europe it's very well known it's very well diagnosed and in this country here it's back when i was born they really didn't know anything about it was actually european doctor that was new york that actually discovered what it was with other people i can put you in one of our support groups seventy eighty people in a room you go around the room it's amazing everybody has a little bit of a different treat celiac ok you know what what is the difference between celiac disease and gluten insensitivity glutens insensitivity in my primarily it's basically the same people they call it today is that flu intolerant is gluten allergy basically the only cure for luton tolerant is by going to free but that is ambiguous and i really want to drive this this point home to viewers because in my practice put i see an increased incidence of people having gluten sensitivities testing because honestly i see a lot of confusion out there even among the medical community when patients go into their doctor and say oh i want to be tested for celiac disease they kind of draw a little bit of a blank what one has one of the were you know we want people to be understand what it is and how to read the blood reports we actually have from the ceiling fan days we actually have courses we're teaching doctors now how to read what how to read the biopsies he told me earlier in the show how many how many people in this country have don't worldwide basis i was absolutely made about three years ago i was at one of the national silica foundation and conferences and i was amazed when they said three hundred sixty five billion people worldwide have celiac and so seventy five percent more may have it but their own diagnosis right and then i thought this is interesting and just read another journal article and it said that gluten sensitivity there estimated it's like six times more prevalent than celiac disease yes so it's this just it's it's unbelievable so we say gluten free much easier than it was even two three four years ago gluten free we barley it's old sometimes and rye the reason why they question of it so much is primarily because the way it's drugs are so sir cosmetics everything that's made today has that i'm so glad that you actually that you mention prescription drugs because a lot of people with celiac disease or people that suffer from gluten sensitivity they have a motoring so in in people with those symptoms if you're not benefiting from a gluten free diet look look at your medications that's one of the probably in the last six months we've had more and more people that are  and that's a good point too because a lot of actually supplements can also have hidden binders and gluten and most of your stuff in the sun market today have to know that is a do unfortunately you really have to look for gluten free and a big culprit is actually vitamin d right and vitamin d is so common for anybody with you know i don't mean disorders or they're really talladega tests for you for vitamin d deficiency but yet this this could actually be causing problems are born with celiac you can come out in different ways to you you know you are born with it it's probably tracked down from one of your parents or one of your relatives down the road but you are born with it is there a genetic way to test for this now i really hope down the road i think i want to say we're making five years away from we have genetic testing here in this country now ok genetic testing is one hundred percent accurate the nice part about genetic testing is from the genetic testing that they've come across in the research is that for they find out that there's three hundred different traits of celiac ok and it's so simple and so easy to do genetic testing it isn't you know i thought this was interesting too there was a case study there was a man that was like seventy years old that was you know did not have a sentence of celiac his whole life and then all of a sudden it came on so you need to kind of stress that point to the communities that you know you could so symptom free let's look causes that two to one of the biggest issues because it is immune disorder one of the biggest issues we've had i i believe the numbers were in sixteen one hundred patients in the pittsburgh general pittsburgh area  diagnosed with celiac surprisingly enough i think the results were about seventy some percent of them were women seventy percent were women that's huge that and i think the reason why it's because s y can be brought on by any type of immune disorder it could be stress it could be maybe an operation it can be maybe the change of life is a major one ok for women you know what else i thought was interesting is i was reading in a journal article when you say about that higher incidence in women there's a high incidence of thyroid disease in specially in this area in southwestern pennsylvania and one study quoted that you know people diagnosed with thyroid disease for four times more likely to develop celiac early and some of the symptoms are similar is fires like sleep difficulties problems with their bowel movements severe fatigue and so i would kind of stress to people at home that if you're diagnosed with one you should also probably be if you're still having symptoms after being treated for this i would maybe they should look for celiac or just see if they benefit from a gluten free diet right absolutely cure for it is free but on the other hand you know you've got to be you know we can to die list the people and find out if you're having or not the only way to really find out for yourself gotta cut out the gluten products what i also say all the time is when you're coming out look at the beginning you've got to kind of dairy i believe that because i think your immune system is really kind of dairy here is give you the same symptoms as luton and after about two weeks time you can slowly introduce theory back in and you'll know i mean really if there's a reaction i mean it's amazing how fast it happens you know do you promote  insides really do work it really does work well what would we do that show what is what is the study show well what it does it helps i just have food it's in there ok it helps and digest in a better way and if there is a trace of gluten it helps to dissolve faster and in more evenly for the body i actually i found another study was actually the journal of gastroenterology and what it said was well actually a couple things but you know there's also such a thing as wheat allergy which is more of an i g e mediated response in that can result in symptoms like asthma eggs and and also bow problems disturbances that they found that you know you need gastric acid stomach acid ten and a half times more susceptible to i g e mediated reactions so if you have asthma and you are you know sensitive do we i would i would definitely recommend supplementing with  i'm definitely every bit of research into that across the board now has worked it's training well there are certain things i believe with celiac is i always say immune system the stronger your immune system the stronger your body's going to be and what happens with it's knocking the immune system done as well as possible so you've got to keep building it up and the thing is that we cannot get enough product in our food today because our foods are so massively produced and so chemically treated and believe about so that's where we have a lot of issues that's why look at supplements and other things that in your diet the only other thing i would caution with a lot of people will go towards pancreatic enzymes but the there's there's a my i'm someone who cares about smile and i live and work in your community i'm the one who puts a smile on your child's face i'm an orthodontist a dental specialist a correct scr misaligned jaws and dental irregularities i received an additional two to three years of specialized education beyond dental school and why i'm the maker of healthy beautiful smile for more information visit bryce's dot org hi welcome back i'm your host dr heidi weinhold and you are watching us the nature path i'm here today with my guest jeff wiener who owns eden's market in the south hills and just tell us a little bit today you brought some examples of gluten free foods because a lot of people say you know they need some good alternatives to to bread the bagels pasta the that people are hungry just what it would really like this is like fo really changed so drastically in the last several years it's basically brought on by the other european markets the european markets brought in because over in europe everything there is looting free and in natural basis breads but i had always been an issue you know go everybody used to make their own bread and you would have to come by five six seven different different types of flowers together to get the textures you need ok the companies like the  generations and it's kind of funny because the old jewish type bakers the way they take on a regular basis is to move very and it's i mean they've been doing this for generations and in they can find these these gluten free options at  the biggest issues we have is here toler is the same as i always look at it's the same it's a traitor celia i it's it's all treat the same way i would actually i would encourage people to at home to attend these gluten intolerance groups especially also people that that it's amazing and it's so funny because a lot of conventional dermatologists they do not think food is related you know you eggs and i and i actually i had eggs and i suffered eggs and i was a child and it was directly food related and this soon as i cut out mine was more dairy since i cut now where do we go in the one other thing i want to add because you said it's higher in women seventy percent higher it's higher only because that's the people we've we've diagnosed more of in the last several months it's not really higher it's i mean overall general men and women kids everyone's i mean it's just it's not just women it's coming out more because of the way we're treating it i want to you know really stress it that women should check this only because there's higher rates of anything they went to spend thousands and thousands dollars ok i talked to him and i told him to try to free and it was amazing i mean i was i was kind of impressed myself because it was not even six weeks later they came in and she was so excited she was of the biggest issues i always look at the supplement market is so poor in our country and it's it's just what i look at i always say i don't care where you buy from but if it's not one hundred percent soon who's what's the key is use what you eat food is what your body takes in it's not the chemicals it's not the business not all the iso's they put in all the products today a lot of parsing you see on the market now i'm it's kind of funny that you know who's been in the business is  now these companies are advertising based right or food additives and it's not the same some the companies we have here the thing is i look at it i said before is immune disorder you've got to keep the body as strong as possible even already dysregulation and it'll just it worse so people think oh i have to stimulate my immune system of to take a nation and that's that's wrong that's that's actually it's going to create more havoc the things like fish oil actually help regulate the immune system so it helps you know your body identify what's you and what's foreign and it doesn't keep generating these these auto antibodies so it helps calm things down and in person is the nature path i really i recommend things like you also brought zinc you think is wonderful for the immune system and for really just helping to tighten the gap junctions in the intestines and helping them make you feel that we use for all the kids in this is great this is a liquid form if this dependent so people that are on an acid medications they're not absorbing it as well in a lot of people that have and when i consult people with like a neurological practice a lot of the symptoms of celiac are gluten sensitivity is a taxi o numbness of the legs right and boy that's a big symptom they do really well with the twelve folic acid b six you see the improvements and they actually give the twelve injections an r and the office and  washington but i love this company actually this is one of my my favorite brands is newmark new chapter actually i saw where they these are made and it's it's unbelievable the facility there was a wonderful new chapter i swear by everything that gluten free but they still may have some reaction if you actually make sure it's just one of the d c issues that we have right now there is a bill in the house right now it's been in the house for i think the last october's posole sitting there but one of the issues we have it's a fad and everybody wants to get on board and it's i believe you have we've had on our end a lot of good press and a lot of bad press from from the seal act and it's just because of that issue you're  much for being here today i think you really help to shed light on on this topic and if anyone has questions please go go talk to jeff that is in market until next time thanks for watching out for now