it would be helpful to understand that approval of minutes in the future means an injury and we can talk about in the future amid minutes jim one of the think you can do as an as a as a board of selectmen within future means let's talk about agenda topics one of which that maybe a public comment you marty but norman precinct eight and my comment was i think we're pretty close to having smart meters installed in all households across belmont and one thing that that would enable is to do time of use pricing  and so i mean i'm suggesting that that's something that the light board consider at some point for a couple reasons one is you know i remember in the summer we would get e mails suggesting a hot day right could you please not use electricity during peak times because  cars to charge at night that would both encourage people to adopt electric cars which has environmental benefits too it's also again incentivizing people to charge off peak at night when electricity is cheaper and that saves everybody absolutely ok great thank you martin jim if you want to give us an update on i actually was by there i took a stroll down there just to just get a sense of things yeah if you look from that from green street all the contract is currently working through the punch list items and all the work on the bill you will be completed in june additionally as you know last month we took delivery of two massive power transformers from medicare in california this was highly complex slivery different state regulations schedule limitations so the heavy equipment trying to get us to get all that coordinated also we had a problem with some weather in connecticut that delayed the delivery and you probably saw a couple of those all that went fine we had no problem with any of the neighbors all the public outreach went smoothly and we didn't we didn't get any complaints so dish of the transformers now we're installing the switch here at this point now are expected to have all that completed  next month so the progress in the substation has remained steady we are however running into some construction delays with the transmission line installation talked with a few folks and examine a kind of a pretty common station and you delays installing the sheet piling you'll notice in the pictures one two and three illustrate some of the sheet piling along the along the right away and  insulation the sheet pilings at this location as introduce some soil in the rail movement along the a b t a and implement implemented increased cautionary measures temporary suspended  this isolated work for safety reasons so it's really just one small area along the railway that they started getting some movement on the rails so you know all the old feel of real movement was you know was they they came they were they were going from from east to west and as they were getting closer to the rail coming toward belmont they experienced some movement they stopped they brought in i think that's when i talked to you and said hey there's some real movement you're concerned that you know the board needs to know what's going on so that's one of the things i want to let everybody on it's things like this happen so the real movement was you know  the other end to work our way back and that's what they did so they put in up to within ten feet of where they had the problem last time and they got real movement a second time so that that just happened on friday so they stopped again and they're you know like i said this is the latest and greatest pictures of that right now in the still in the process of resolving many of the issues right of the rails sort of settle it's just a little unnerving to have no one expected to move so there's still and we've where this oh yeah yeah yeah yeah we have movement monitors on the rail it's in marquee moon talking about the area we're talking about maybe twenty twenty foot section or so of these are going to have to go all the way on the track only in this one area and like you said it's only twenty a twenty foot section that this movement is it yeah is beyond the tolerance because they protect the railway as you install the transmission exactly right to prevent any future movement right so they basically if you look at the way these are laid out the what they do is they put the sheet piling in first and then they excavate between the sheet piling on the idea of settling yeah right that would prevent anything from moving at that commuters that are that are you know using this railway every day to get in and out of boston so any time you get moving like that you've got to you've got to stop when you've got to analyze it find out what's going on and make the corrections as of right now this is the second time that correct if there's a leveling issue they'll deal relevel of the railway they do that this thing that they do that within a couple of days you know they move pretty quick on it and then then before you get approval to move forward they have to assess the situation now the means and methods of installing the sheet pilings may change that maybe but you know there's definitely a work around on this just haven't they haven't given that to us yet as a solution so when when you say they started at the other end and now they're coming the other way and they stop within ten feet where does that mean that the area that's of concern is only ten feet wide no i would estimate it to be about twenty or so because they were intact of that  that's not like the the river coming from the west coast meeting the river coming east coast yes much simpler than that right it's a it's a much you know it's constant you know it's one small isolated area for a long day to be able to care  route as well that we have to perform so there's some complexity with what we're doing out there and the reason the reason i say that is just so that i guess it comes down to no surprises right nobody like a there's a couple of pictures here in the bottom of the of installed a couple of the electrical manholes along the way and they've also put in some of the typical trenching the as far as the trench list crossings go those have not been started yet and there was some can you know there was some engineering merit i told you before that we haven't trouble with the contractor giving us the detail design i mean you may not remember but i mentioned it last time we met that the getting the detail the i think we're down to two of the crossings that need to be finalized and you know and then that should that should move along right bright now we still we still believe that october  include the transmission lines you know includes the building so the so we brought this up into more of a program right so the substation is one component substation will be done in june the building up and the components in the building all the switchgear so the that the rail line is the complexity which is getting these infrastructure installed ok and that's where we're running into some challenges with with getting this thing done right now the expected the fall of two thousand and sixteen right we don't live in a perfect world say something crazy happens and it doesn't happen right the pointing the remembers the details of the joint development remit with ever source it's our responsibility right to to to seek the dish and funding to complete the project right before we get reimbursed for the transfer all right and we already have a kind of slow challenge as i said before you know we are right now we are on schedule to get this thing done and we don't have any cap we don't have a cash flow issues at this point what if this thing goes beyond what we were anticipating for reasons beyond our free if something happens and it goes beyond october i will be alerting you before october because it will require going to tom meeting to get funding really how much money are we talking about you don't know you're saying today that there won't be you know what i'm saying right now as you know i get a donation is what well i guess what i'm what i'm trying to say is that i don't want any surprises for the board so i just want you to like to stand yeah but in terms of discussion of additional funding needs we need to be aware that by man well if we have funding problems that won't be until late in the fall right so we're looking at she looking at what you would you maybe you know maybe they can front that's an installment in advance that'll help us get through this short term financial shortfall period you know with the idea that it will be credited when my point here is i'm not asking for funding what i'm trying to do is convey the message right in the message i'm trying to get across is that i don't want anybody to be blindsided the transmission short term borrowing was fifty three point seven was the funding limit for the for the project and so if we're talking about a delay you're not talking about  not you know i don't have a number right numbers funny to put a price tag on something that's an unknown right now i came in give you an estimate so what i guess what i i guess what i you know just out of prudence you're right we need to do some planning for can just in case right but i didn't want to avoid them when i got the ok to be surprised if something happened in october but in addition to what sammy saying is another way to do it would be to ask town meeting for a conditional approval of the would be nice if we had if we had some idea of the scope of of the you know of the matter yeah you know why wait till the contract with and it's a very good point i guess what i'll do is i'll go back to my team and look at some scenarios to see what you know what that number might look like jim let's understand that because when you say the total project cost of fifty three point seven million which you're implying is that any delay is just a cash flow issue but we have to go back to t additional funds that i mean we don't there is a town more funds it's all passed on to ever sorious long term arc you are correct yes and the reason just to replace the i guess remind everybody you know the cash flow challenge was because of the the bids that came in on that transmission mind writing jim a copy of that joint development agree because before he you joined the board yeah you have a copy as well i think i do but you know what just copy it yeah i think it be helpful to understand that and then by our may mean jim perhaps we can talk about this for no that's fine ok but that's pretty much tell you very much at all so just in terms of timing on a jim started to raise it to millions this bullet i put in here perhaps was the incorrect status be you know on december thirty first of january one thousand seven hundred timeframe from from a tax standpoint would be that would be the time frame the  the way the agreement is written at our meeting with floyd and during our meeting the other day on the we put it on you from the rating agency we had that indicated that is fourteen days because they want a copy of the of that section of the g a o which section ten that states states that during after the line is accepted all the sort of a cushion in there perhaps right there's definitely cushion because i don't know the exact sequence of events for the eternal ok you know what i mean that it says fourteen days fourteen days from when you know when six how long is except this test on the fifty three point is there a weather concern on the other on the other side of that i mean are they able to do the work right there in winter and yes they work the work was scheduled for last winter  the problem was it was a number of reasons why they didn't get the work done you know we don't have the allan for that until i think going forward you know if it if it gets kicked in to october november december they can continue to do yeah yeah i think that's what they're doing they're going you know a complicated again once again jim as it is it's the moratorium like we had for the summertime where we couldn't cut into the line you know and we we get pushed from from  it is and that anything in between this mean whenever we schedule the next one in may and we need to schedule we probably need to be decided on the right i thought you had said this happened when when i forget what that we had a schedule we do that rebecca would you mind polling jamie and jim and myself and we'll give you some dates should have regular and it might be i think it works if we have a board meeting that night as well so we can meet like five thirty six  you know as you as you may remember we had applied for energy efficiency grant program last year and we received a two hundred fifty thousand dollars grant from the state and we launched the program in october and it was closed out early this month the overall program went really well we had over three hundred participants and the weather is ation grants  because of the carbon reduction from those we had thirty seven homes that were awarded up to fifteen hundred dollars which is which was pretty impressive and on the municipal projects we install some miles and actually make sure we are on our website rebecca yeah and we have a tie this is great stuff to advertise it's good stuff yeah ok yeah and you know and i guess in addition to that just before you know for gets too far i mean just for the past year i've been working on with the team obviously i work on we've been working on we been working on the energy electric vehicles i know a lot of there's a lot of talk about it in town but we've been doing a lot of about it we were in la reine actually yeah i think we've got our finger on the pulse of you know the folks in town and where they want to go in where we're getting ready to implement lots of new model test on whether any of us would purchasing that under twenty five grantor it's only thirty five like you got that you impose upon you because i haven't had a chance so i'm supposed to report out on the energy committee liaison as my i'm the liaison to and i didn't have a chance to catch up with the chair any update on the solar arrays by my campaign terms installations you have any information you know what i asked interconnected to date two thousand sixteen solar challenge hundred twenty three applications received so we don't have them all i don't think and then twenty two or interconnect that's one hundred fifty additional be on the  accounting department was told not not to put it in the rate base but somehow it went into the rate base of these things happen i guess the question is we have three million dollars well it is telling me we could put it into the open up trust in the segregated account for like department employees and then at least that would be where where we want and we can see it and it can be invested inside the trust on the other hand jim said yes if it's not a visually approved the best place to put it is the rate stabilization fund in floyd agrees with that you know  the new rape case well you know and i don't know that the two decisions know nothing but i'm waiting for the working group to come back to us on that and i wonder whether we should well i'm sorry going to well my question is if it was never authorized by the light board then isn't it an illegal built into the race i mean is it our money to allocate or is it really the rate payers money people refunded legally and i say i don't know the answer to that but i what i think that's the case i also think that over the opec contribution you know three hundred thousand of them that we do know yeah know the money's there we know how it was collected and it is being aggregate i think we should decide to do it in fairness suggests that you go into the ridge reservation and actually agree with that i mean we have to do that now i mean if you want because i don't know whether  enough i just wanted to mention the casa service study which i think jim has indicated be doing next year doesn't really in itself change anything it just tells you where how rich how the cost should be allocated among great classes so that in itself won't change rates or or it'll give you an idea of how you might want to rearrange the cost also not to be picayune about it but i think i'd say the contribution is in rates not in rate base because rate based typically suggests tangible assets it's when the rates within the rates are within the right we do it on three million dollars based on the rates that we're charging are you know right so that there is all i want to say ok thank you steve i'm and i'm not a pining on the legality of this that would be town council but going forward those funds are still going to be that that cost is still going to be embedded in rates so are the light board so that wasn't a conscious decision to increase the rates to account for contributing a three million dollars contribution for opeth reserve right yeah and i wasn't it but to the extent you approve the rates that are presented to you by the like department i think there could be an argument that even though not every element is identified but you think you have approved it but of it let's just say for example that those funds weren't segregated whomever segregated them ok i want to want to get into the accounting of it wasn't like boy that authorize it perhaps wasn't the general manager but someone  fines if that what hadn't been done then to the extent that the rates exceed you know allow for revenues to exceed expenses were money typically go into our rate stabilization fund or cash reserves correct so i would suggest that it was just an excess of excess funds that were bled apart that sec separately segregated not by someone in appropriately that wasn't a conscious decision to increase rates for that purpose ok so to the extent that that was going until we can i think i think we're the point is that what i guess the point i'm trying to make is that there was never a conscious discussion in decision to include a certain amount within the rate for opap right it was simply a situation whereby any suggesting to you is that what took place was that there was excess funds that were pushed aside there was never a determination to clued in the rates i don't think it's part of the rate analysis and opeth component ok but that's an add on to the rate no it was just words the rates assumed that were going to occur certain expenses and then when there's excess revenues when there's excess right those amounts  segregated into separate cash accounts and you know step one and again this is where legal counsel comes in and i don't want to late you know belabor this but my understanding is there is a statue that authorizes the light board  to tack on to the right component to cover all pat for like department employees this was enacted under that statute without like porno i don't think that's the case so they didn't establish a fund no it wasn't they never my understanding is they never established a fund or an add on to the raid right so they that we would have done like would have had to approve the rates and since we can't find any authority that they had an add on then that what simply took place was that a county where was it the time took just money swept it aside yeah all i was going to suggest is from all this is why not that same component that's been blowing into the segregated account just keep it going into rate stabilization to the next time we set schedule got a little messed up last year you know we were very late but i'm just asking when is it normally do normally well normally it would be february that i want to do this and perhaps we can do your review there and we have a month right so whatever information is necessary for that you want to try and schedule the review that he be ok so we do jim palmer's review we're going to get of course the substation and transmission project update that's a standing to term in the municipal light board advisory committees role you know they've met in elected offices is that correct mystical as and next monday a week from monday for probably not those two meetings it might be the third monday if we have a mean i think we have a meeting on the twenty third of may i think we have our first non both of you six pm on this we think we need more time pending what you sent us perhaps we should say five thirty i think that's right it's two five thirty because we have to do jim's review and