in terms of the uniform for many of the violations depending you know from different staff members if there's because if there's some guy like that the person who might be affected by this would have though that if what i've been told that sometimes there's no taking the board because they can't legally time and grass or they can't have you know the ability to just walk into any structure at any time meaning really mr velshi will be writing this so that the several committee meetings so just to give a little bit of history on our parking as it stands now that has extensive provision for cars that are in operable snow know making flu broken windshield all that which is good comprehensive only it works within the police department for their imports and removal of cars and all dat is great have a car you know that you know some of these kind of walked away from but the registration is ok and sadly concludes and there's nothing wrong with it but it's just sitting in front of your house or maybe you know making the ingress and egress to your driveway difficulty whatever  that allows people to protect themselves but i think as it stands now for citizens that are able to park on the street forty eight hours this is a bit of a short time so really it back to this question of whether of case or some unique set of circumstances if they call the police department they'll issue it over so that the police departments are aware of what the background is and they would act accordingly to into a little bit about vulnerable position somebody just doesn't want their car parked there you know so you know i think forty eight hours is a reasonable approach legally parked car  truck was move that wasn't the owner who was there obviously knew he saw attack so he moved into the driveway so it becomes a problem for us especially in this weather it's a problem for people you know moving around the streets streets are hard to supreme so that becomes the obstacle it's my thoughts thinking yes you know i think we're really just looking just for a little bit of leeway you know what we do have a set number and even though it's not truly being in force they think that if we work with that i think that's that's the main point here that we could have something set in stone even though it is going to take four days you know before something happens at least you know we have a just a little bit more time here versus someone who  it doesn't really else happens it's just kind of school around the car in the dark or actually get more snow bound because they're pushing a little snow on top of it as they pass it so so what i'm hearing is that two from something like that so there's a lot of issues with this it doesn't all cut and dried as it seems so i think i'm all i can go is what i just have a problem with today was exactly th we take away the fact that it suddenly becomes illegal act accordingly hours and say carhart legally causing hardship to surrounding krabby owners or however you would phrases that can be removed if report protecting the average person out there you know i mean a person who doesn't know how to navigate the system is not going to know they can call for an overlap because they're going on vacation in their cars legally are going to the street because they may not even know the lives is the first place don't know the people that are in support for o'grady a change would like to hear from them as to what you would like to see changed or maybe once we've discussed it you don't want to see changes so that we can move forward any of the changing it or not but i think we should take in consideration what everyone has saying in terms of you know what makes sense for the mill intime what doesn't and see if we can come to an if it makes sense i mean how we can work in such a way that you have concerns about the someone not knowing about the overlook i never knew about this lost the home having a driveway didn't really it didn't really apply to me so i think we have to try to figure out a way that it bit works for everybody  time frame that that just makes  police chief be given the discretion where you know there are certain circumstances where they attempt to notify you or do a reasonable hour each to locate the owner and have vehicle situations and even people who go on vacation will call the park and tell the department that they're going to vacation in the park and will put the house out for attention so that they'll know that somebody isn't going to be there the because really i mean well what we're talking about is you know the balance between making sure people don't take advantage of and we don't obviously we can't because there are so many factors they're having a hard time with that you know i don't want to play i feel really want to stand up are really important people were fully prepared for something they did a great job of giving us the information but we can certainly i you know asked the chief information released did not the call can come directly to me someone else told me that they had a neighbor who someone else parked in their driveway without their permission and when they called words were told that the police could not com told off private property even though it was the owner of the private property that was calling so if that is in fact correct can we make some change in t v so that this ninety six hour seems a long time i will give somebody a part of my driveway and for be able to park there for ninety six hours i may not be able to do anything i mean i my understanding is they were told that they could have a tow truck come and have it towed at their expense and then when the person came to pick up their car they would have maybe that can do that i want to maybe i'll tell people to park in somebody else's driveway so i think we should also discuss that when we have the chief come so we can maybe take a look at that