tonight we have two items on the agenda and i one of them is the first item is regarding the process for calling meetings the second part of it is open so just to start off with part one let me just give a little background as to it's on the agenda tonight and why we're meeting having a special meeting tonight now open it up to the rest of the the group here i want to i just want to put on the record that the the opec item is on for tonight is on for a special meeting so at the time since opec didn't seem to me to be an emergency matter we've discussed it a multiple times we had come to agreement on the issue it didn't seem really necessary appropriate to call a special meeting of the light board to discuss an ongoing issue we had already discussed so i declined to set up a special meeting of the light board at that point on line that actually a light board meeting had been posted for this evening but not by me i contacted craig and not by craig and as it turned out the mr williams and schedule had posted an agenda for mr windsor contacted the town of that and the light department which had posted an agenda for the light board meeting for tonight at seven o'clock to discuss since we had not the chair had not called a meeting and we had not discussed having a meeting tonight i cancelled that meeting for tonight but as you can see we're actually having the meeting tonight because it occurred to me after having discussing it and thinking about it i did not want to create a precedent whereby people other than the chair or at least a majority of the board could call a meeting of a committee so i wanted to make sure that we that i called the committee meeting for this evening to discuss the open to keep it in the proper procedure i would say i'm not sure what we're going to do with the item but we'll get to it and certainly the floor over to mr williams when that time comes i would i would state in my opinion that it's inappropriate to have a member of the committee call a meeting i think not just this board but any border committee in the town of the it would cripple the government if any disgruntled member of a committee were to call a meeting at any time i would say that i don't know can i call a board a slight meeting or a high school building committee meeting if i sit in those committees can i cancel meetings without the chairs knowledge it just doesn't seem like that would be appropriate or a good precedent to set in the town i would i would say just as for the way i feel personally because i can't talk to everybody outside of the meeting so unfortunately i have to do it while everybody is here which i would prefer not to do but that's the way the rules go that that i feel it's a bit of a lack of respect honestly to to call a meeting when the chair is already been asked and said no i'd say it's disrespectful to craig i say to the awkward to be doing this in the middle of our general manager search of the light department and i think it's disrespectful for the governance of the town i just don't think that's an appropriate way to do it i think we need to follow proper process that said i'm certainly not against discussing the issue and honestly had it been brought up in time for a regular meeting of the light board i would have happily put it on the agenda even though in fact we've discussed it several times and i believe mr plume myself this have stated in the past that we don't agree with mr williams on opap with the with the light department but nevertheless i'm certainly happy to discuss it again and also the last part of it would be that the calling center is doing a review of finances town wide that the trees govern our town in straighter got the community compact grant to fund the c center out of you mass boston to do and before we do any restructuring or structural ideas or long term financial changes to what we do i'd like to see the result of the constant or again not a not a question on the merits of the or the lack thereof of the hope of suggestion really i just want to see how this all plays out and i think that opec is not an emergency matter that needs a special meeting i believe special emergent special meetings or just for emergency matters that can't wait till the next regular meeting on the board is like a meeting coming at seven thirty i have an item on there where i've drafted actually a rule as to how meetings can be called unfortunately i would didn't think we actually had to draft such a rule but apparently we do so i've drafted disrespectful and i understand your passion about this but it's just derogative the post meetings we talk about agenda topics up to each of these meetings and so that's how it's always been and i would suggest that i could just go off and post a board selected me next friday insulting adam and i and other members of this board by suggesting that we don't feel that same way but please please i mean you've said already number of times excuse me i mean i kind of you know we work together for three years we and so what's happened is we're in the middle of the budget cycle i realised in the last that if we continue to manage did ask the town clerk was i permitted to do was there a by law or regulation or state regulation that said i couldn't in the answer was no so then i happening and then instead of disrespect that i mean we've been working on this for you know i i i i like what you've been doing during the first year but i don't just respect you what  i was trying to do was to give us as a team the opportunity to consider what could be the second major big breakthrough in the management of the open up line in you said that that you and mark oppose having the light board pay for its fair share on when it as you go basis but i don't know how you know that i mean and i i'm very sure that you didn't talk to mark about the comments we made the comments we made in these but i'm still talking here mark mark said the last time that we talked about this that you were willing to hear the information that kind of in this meeting propose threats which you said i'm not trying to disrespect you i have i have a scar i have something that i think we should consider because we're talking about sixty six million dollars in all we have to do is decide tonight that the enterprise funds can pay their fair share of oh that's all we have to do because what we're doing now is is using free cash to do and for me that's has nothing to do with the cost the calculation has nothing to do with the cost and the the fees in the enterprise funds can cover this expense easily and if we do this we can reduce the payments in the out well you know what jim has is a responsible person and i'd like to know why but you know this is exceptional like george's george told me afterward or no george told me you know the next day that it never been done in five years and i know but that doesn't mean it can't be done i mean you have to think the way i think which is that if we have an opportunity the three of us to save the town sixty six million dollars in in what is going to be whether whether it's eventually becomes true or not it's scheduled it's on our balance if we have the opportunity the three of us to save sixty six million dollars for the taxpayers i decided to take that in so by doing that we now have the opportunity tonight to vote because you c white board i envisioned that it would be convened at the same time because the light board should not make this decision without hearing from the rough rough was not involved jeff was not involved i i did this on my own question what i'm passionate about is doing what should be done because that's what you were elected for that's i'm elected and that's what you're not if you simply went to craig no that was you know i had an agenda topic i thought really strongly about and felt as though if there was a gap between me and i would have said patrice or david you know i'm not the chair i'm not going to call a meeting with this is a topic that we should discuss he of the other board members feel it's an appropriate thing to do that's all you need to do i think the fact that you  the meeting because i can't talk to you know i know that you could have gone to craig and said let's hear a communication to say here's an agenda topic i'd like to discuss the fight and i didn't want to i didn't want to put craig in that situation because he's acting it would have been it would have been no jim it would've been a simple thing to do you know you could have i'm just suggesting that's an approach you should have taken or with patrice and say if i had to join the topic i would say i'm just going to post an agenda for what can we post to mean for wednesday morning patrice i wouldn't do that i'd say here's a topic that i think it's important for jim and i'm to discuss in time prior to jim leaving the board that's personal and she would have called you and then adam and said it's just you have or you it's a topic you want to discuss and this is this   s as a board than you guys do if you think i'm fighting with you on this i am not i am giving you the opportunity to make the decision tonight on information that we've had in front of us for a number of months now and it it's it's clear to me that we need to make a decision and it's clear to me that unless there's a light board meeting we can't make it in and what's going to happen next is that we're going to have to vote on the budget in what we should do in my opinion which is what i'm putting forth to both of you tonight for your consideration because we now have a meeting is is devoted up there down a light board this continues after the next election jim so could have taken up this business at some point when the concept or agreement completes its analysis we understand the issues we've been talking about for quite some time we don't have to agree on it but we have talked about it a number of times i don't know that agenda i sincerely hope there's not you're not making a veiled open meeting or you know accusation because i'm basing it off oh you're sitting here you know you're listening to everybody just driving stuff to me i didn't do that you but you're sitting right there i didn't say that so don't don't say that i said that because i did ok so limit your remarks to what you know i didn't i didn't say marc and i've been doing this for longer than you have i have never talked to mark about anything and he man you're basing it off of things i've heard at this table you're making it up because you're saying that you think it's the implication but it's not my implication i'm glad i'm here i'm good it does it's your world not mine it's your imagination didn't like the word action let me finish this i'm not about interest fine but i brought a focus to an issue that had not been brought a focus to in a while i worked on the on this of the war committee with greg menaces report and i'm glad that you brought it up but this is really about process this isn't about the substance of the open at least that's why i'm bringing this up tonight ok it's got to do with the process of calling meetings i think did you hear my explanation i heard i just don't agree with it i don't think that that's just because there's no rule against it doesn't mean you're allowed to do it i tell you should do it i took a chance because because what's going to happen which you're going to see tonight is that if we approve all three and you're going to hear from kathy she's going to say if floyd county makes the same calculation they always does and consider that to  we will be able to reduce the emmerdale zation payment from twenty thirty to twenty forty one half sixty six million dollars for me that's worth it to take a chance and that's where i was coming from interest and i would have said well for a meeting anyway let's discuss it and i didn't write it when i had a post of meeting i took a chance because i thought ok well and it was you know it's not disrespectful if you have confidence in yourself and in your team and i have yeah rather than her going through it now and then going through it again it's an agenda topic at whatever time it is and i think we can remain as a as a as a as two bodies convened in the make decisions in both we lose krag and aging but you know minutes that we can well maria has to be part of the conversation i think with the if we're discussing it for the like well then them then perhaps what we do then is that what's on the list you want to move it to the front of the selections agenda yeah because you know it's going to be disjointed if we discuss it now and then go into that list they can be let's let's do the boy scouts and then go right into that matter is kathy here prefer craig's walk around and aid has to take minutes for the light board part of the meeting so i don't really know how we can get out of keeping them here to be honest with you but if you do it on the early side of the selectmen portion of the meeting i mean that would suit me i couldn't make you know i know how i feel because it's a much more significant amount to get to your contribution i think you need to hear from cathy and well obviously kathy's a key player and both the discussions right so we can't take up the slightness mean for another two so we're going to stand in recess for about two minutes thank you mark that was my original plan