yeah yeah eighty six ninety one community that has a really really impoverished parts to it and we actually set up shop in the logical school and the component of our service was at this school you can see here  vote the way i did still even then it was a difficult trip for watching that plane on the radio i just kind of go off into the other part of the world it's just very far away all of the good all of the reasons i fully accept understand or agree with it's just that the difficulty is that it's a personal difficulty division i express it is because i don't these fellows are either twenty three twenty four point five i think that's somewhat arbitrary i just can't tell you that there's a difference between twenty three or twenty four is that in just a clear operational you're probably twenty four twenty five so in the first grade starting class sizes and the belief that we have the foundation of learning you know how things are in those early grades and catch it early and at the time to recognize that was an economically feasible to put in class but there were two years later and we haven't identified get out and about you know rightfully so r t our principal advocated for a reading professional now because of the specific potential for better classrooms that you consider the need finished situation down and fully comprehend that you are constrained by a budget and there are competing hire him but then the absence of a school of the elementary school level right and room and going down what we've proposed is that you retain that f t v at the down the school to create that third class i say that because i believe that with three sections there's a better learning environment going on there's less classroom disruptions the classroom teacher can be engaged and broadly across all students finding those who need enrichment that is one of those kids who knew special intervention or just to the first is around just the current situation in which you will hear from a number of us that we believe that we're facing an overcrowded situation we would like to have that addressed the second thing is around the impact of university station ok so let's start with the first point which impact of university station what are the trigger points we would need to teachers who are two fundamental assumptions which may one was there would be declining enrollment in your current school base outside of university station the second thing was there was a number of before i get into the specifics of what the ask is that we have the context is the down the school district in particular myself included voted against the university station if you recall but after last spring because we thought it was a bad deal this town made a bad deal this is a really bad thing for us the biggest concern that we have is the impact on the school system and downey clearly is a loser because all of the new students are going to to the down school ok but if you think this is a dental school problem you're naive because all routes eventually lead to the middle school high school ok and then if you think well i don't have the students in the school well ok it doesn't really affect me well actually it does because of the quality of our education goes down the desirability the town goes down home values without some distant past everybody and i saw a study that was done three years ago it was an interesting study it was in the time when everyone was in which was let's sell this idea to the townspeople and show scenario that six hundred fifty potential units of housing coming into town would be somewhere between forty to ninety students being added to the school system in the business world we do budgeting and forecasting we make mistakes which is things when we look at something we have things that we call a base case an upside case and a downside case i would ask the school committee to go back and do this work again and look at what is the impact because look at forty students or sixty students one out of every ten units having one student to go to the school system that's a very rosy picture of what could potentially happen and what i would like to see what we all like to see is what is the p a school to a point there isn't that disaster scenario here where we could have two three hundred students at schools the bruce made my final point which is around budget so you so how are we going to fund we have to make tough choices what i would ask to the school committee also keep in mind people sitting right here we're all volunteers now education stars so there isn't a person sitting here working on that done a great education first so i don't want to put that right out there  and i'm not by any stretch getting my back up but i want i want that everyone to be perfectly clear on that point there was no one up here who was sitting here thinking what can we do to just make sure that our kids have an immediate very educational no one is here for them so far is answering your questions i'm also going to put this out there i know a lot of people want to speak we're not necessarily golf we're not required to nor do we there's a lot of hypotheticals in those presentations putting a woman you won't remember i do but we just basically took her in the roman at the time and just rolled it all right because i couldn't speculate on hypothetical of the time listen to the experience meghan has with the classroom size of twenty two and twenty three when you listen to where ella comes there's a difference there is a difference with this group kids when i when i was in kindergarten she would come home and justify how good for a day was by the number of kids that had to sit in the satellite space that's not fair that's not fair when she went to second grade it was mrs nelson who said she's doing great she's actually reading at the third grade level in her math this rate there and then mr levy comes back from maternity leave to tell her that no she's actually behind and we need to do more work for me to write a report so i know that the numbers it's hard to find with that tipping point and in the decisions are hard but watching those two girls who are fourteen months apart their experience and their feedback from school is different and i think it's important that is i guess the role of teachers and the texting phone calls anything in the classroom when your child is present is there a rule  but i think this is a pressing issue because if we only have three or four students coming out of the valley which will happen independent of university out of work faced with a real challenge and i don't like the idea of the problem solving itself by teach some of these kids come into the first grade they redid the fifth grade level they had some kind of the home to give all levels of the you have kids with other issues and it's not just one teacher taking care of twenty five kids it's a it's a  mix of a lot of people to go in and do it and stop it when i started to hear who those people were reading and math the special things it's i mean it gave me a lot more confidence that there's a plan for each program may be different for every single class and i thought it made me feel a little bit but i'm not comfortable with twenty five as big perfect and i love to see three of the course up to twenty seven but there's a lot going on as far as who's involved in that class now that to me struck me as a lot better than just to put a teacher in there with twenty five kids from a few all up but it's a mix of the different kids and the different needs that they have an attempt by suppression also produces a lot of kids over the years to go on to do very very well in the system when i interviewed principals like when i first given to the school committee and asked them what you need for this ticket this principal came from milton this from brookline they said the support of the teachers in this town is way beyond wherever else you go to move i mean this tremendous support to come in university extension programs what if that doesn't happen and we're still at twenty five or twenty five and we're all the way to august fifteenth and we study are we starting this class with two classrooms and then you know we open in june for our  because i have numbers from two thousand and eleven two thousand and twelve of classes of forty seven or fifty where there are three classes so there was a determination made whether it was numbers or it was made up or whatever to go to three classes and  for all talking about it westwood station the spot or so i'm having trouble i'm having trouble understanding why the hesitancy given the fact that we've had this number that's been steady we have the first in first grade they went to two and a half classes you know this it's late it's not like this is the first time that i've been on this particular grade you know why we wouldn't start taking steps now to secure the monies to get an additional classroom it seems to be supreme court it seems you know there's historical preceden historical present well i looked at numbers that show the two thousand and eleven there were class sizes of forty seven students that had three teachers who were there was a class size or fifty this is a done that have three teachers i believe there is a you know on and i think that the staff of downey i deal with them every day i've got two kids at the downy their schedules change all the time the execution of saddam school is fantastic but i think we're getting to a point where the infrastructure you know if you especially with quotes coming with the total population that's coming in you model it to assume a certain percentage of that is a student that's going to be of a certain age and you plan accordingly so you know i think when you're doing this analysis and you have my trust by the way i'm just the sudden she wasn't doing is falling for words and i don't i don't i'm not blaming the teacher of what went on in the classroom but she wasn't doing the work that the other classes were doing and i know that from talking to the parents so then she goes on to second resources so should there be some sort of parameters to say if a cohort of students has been in a large class size you can do what largess for x number of years maybe they go to the top of the priority list if a set of cohorts have because the number is going out there whether you guys know that or not it's twenty six it's twenty six and so there's no policy anywhere that those twenty five but it helps to understand what the parameters are set and so that's why we were advocating today say look at the unique situation that downey's and we do have a higher i don't want to be in a position that we're in remediation with our kids and even the you know middle of the ground because we have a set of soap stars in every class started pulling hair out in clumps i asked for some psychological help i didn't feel like i i went elsewhere for some psychological help it was pinpointed yeah there is a lot of an energetic especially the kids in this class causing her extreme anxiety i mean i can show you the documents and i only just didn't plan to speak but i only stand up and say this because i know that there's a lot of parents sitting here saying that you kid is has a ton of anxiety you know it's prevalent across our grades in middle school and high school but there are kindergarten pulling out hunks of her hair in the size of pinky the size of my pinky was really disturbing and as we've moved on  can understand what julie said about my daughter comes home and says the good day was that kids didn't poke her four kids weren't going yesterday on the computer and distracting her when she was trying to read or kids were screaming out she didn't know it was going to happen with her behavior and it caused her a lot of anxiety and this year again to show that she's have a very bright kid god knows went into school reading she's one of those kids it's a self starter you have a kid that can concentrate read the entire diary of a wimpy kid series in a weekend and she can't concentrate in her school now and it breaks my heart so that's just a personal it's just a comment i don't expect you to respond but it's been on the side of caution because those kids will come in during the year i like most people who buy houses you know will keep their kids in the school system they read until the end of the year i'm not so sure that that's necessarily going to happen with the university station so i just ask you to consider that this class it is true that there might be a smaller number and i was involved in sort of a and a group that tried to get an extra teacher a few years ago we had the same number twenty five to classrooms at the downy and there were a lot more children in that classroom on i e piece there were also then more aids in the classroom which could help the other children and sort of cheap it under wraps a little bit more i mean it was challenging for my twins at the time in that classroom but this is a whole it's a whole nother can of worms and it is very challenging and it it's an interesting mix and i think that was an interesting mix but this is actually i think more challenging because there is not as much  extra help in the classroom in terms of aids for children that can help manage it's just  i know for many of you this is your first time for me to be on the other board members have made a point and i agree with them and i thank you for coming out and it's important that we hear from you we want to know what's going on from your perspective so you need to know this so that it's almost every day see you this is your first time here in the school committee meeting almost every day we have talked about class size on the phone we're talking about this constantly they're working on this constantly so you may think in some ways you're bringing an issue to us for the first time rest assured we know what's going on we are from the skateboard the school committee perspective we rely on these folks obviously heavily because we're not experts we we understand how you're feeling we understand the worries as we're all parents of kids who are insecure their kids who are in the system now or have been through and we will do what needs to be done and unfortunately the timing may not be the exact timing that you want but i have complete confidence as we were as to in the in the system  these folks and there are conversations johnny into she has to hear my calls every day so there is communication going on this is not the first communication got me out this class or any of the other classes alone we did way to say we hear you we thank you for being here and we're going to take  advocate for us and in particular that i wouldn't want to close you feeling we didn't feel that way questions so we need to start really with the foundation the foundation being what are we doing today we're all requirements of thing course offerings and things like that will hackle i think it's his interest in tackling them later later but until we get it without foundation o so just want to talk a little bit here here but right now here so you can understand how the courses break out so for typical freshmen everyone takes freshman literature composition and civics for a class and then there could be enough option is that we don't have enough time to take that we really need to extend high school for two more years we should talk about not to take away the arts but there are i think what i hear comes from parents having a child in high school so i hear more there is that oh my it's unfortunate my child has no interest in art they have great art from kate they have real we have a robust system i'm for art but now they're in high school and they don't necessarily want to take an or art class my senior year definitely in the budget in the warrant article that we approve of town meeting this year because of the way money is coming in with western station university station and free cash the plan as you'll probably be voting on that's the only thing that i would say to someone who has three kids who will be on on this trip probably have a lot of respect and admiration for our coaches they're i'm ok any further discussion right now now ok let's take this point where we are all in favor of the