what happened to the parents and that was so disturbing the family has refused to speak  book i think once we did the research in who they were as people and you find that they believe did i it was important for me what what was real what was dramatic license what was it didn't matter they believe that it's so subjective to you know and you can't i mean you don't want to judge your character anyway but certainly do with real people that really believed in the things that they saw i mean that's the only way to go so there was never really any doubt the only i've been fortunate enough to not ever experience anything diabolical to this degree you know i have my experience little weird things but not this i've known people close to me whom i respect and who've had a really powerful and noxious experience and i believe them i had no choice but to believe lorraine i treated as a biopic in time playing her name coming from perspective was it invaluable having her around us yeah there's so much throughout the decades there's so much footage of her on line and it's just wonderful to see how she's still retain that kind of that very childlike editing and storytelling especially of this kind of genre it's all in the timing and it's you said something great about the false starts i mean if old scares you know yeah he's very you know i can and this is no disrespect to things so he first what he believes that actors he believes in character he he loves to linger on moments that other you know other people would want to cut to a scary part or have a crazy fast at it he's not afraid of stillness he's not afraid of yes meter yeah and he's something that he just knows how to to let the actors to let this scene play and he knows that people actually strangely enough are interested in character and humanity and he knows that that will serve him in the long run so he can structure these scares i came up with this great beat we're going to do this this this and the clapping or whatever it is you know he's but he knows how to structure that but he knows where that fits in and i think to me that's  y he doesn't believe in any false scares if something comes out something scares you it's going to be something that can harm you it's not going to be let off by going ha it's just to catch or whatever you know that's it's always something that could put you in danger so he's constantly pushing you and pulling you and i think that's why you know to me this is you know and we've winded insidious two after this and that had a whole different beast but he in the world that he lives in you know he can he can   the rains house you know that's about as real as it gets you know if i you know the real house or rhode island where you know which which which looks different than you know the house that we constructed for that they constructed i had nothing to do with the building of a highly skilled professionals doing it but yeah i mean it's not you know you're always in every performance or sort of sifting through what's important like what's important for the story it's like you don't get overloaded in all this information so you concentrate on a few things and scared by this character i think like i'm coming from a person i this is a mom with a neurologically dysfunctional she herself is like tormented by like a really anxious pass so how do you give that neurologically dysfunctional child the a life that's enhanced it doesn't get and i think it's being starting me taken seriously because people because of the adrenaline rush it is to his you know you watch these kind of films and think oh my my scenario isn't that bad you know compared it was pretty amazing that it was like a working two story house when we created it we could have lived there it was usually sets are like like the first floor would be here and the second floor would be there but it was it was cool that we could actually and like stairs got to know where it was cool that we could actually like work and it is like a character after i read it and like once i was here and i started waking up in the middle of the night like around three o'clock and it's happened with a few of like the other people working on this that like i'll wake up around you know three three fifteen and i wouldn't be able to fall asleep until after four like pretty regularly and like it enough it like i would wake up and i would look at the clock and i'd be like oh of course it's it was it gets in your head congratulations to you two really like when you found out about this story or got the script what was your initial reaction are you believe worse well first off like i had seen insidious and i loved insidious and i thought the script was great and i love scary movies so i was just completely down for the whole thing yeah i mean if you're an actor you have to be a believer in every in every script whether it's you know true or not because that's that's your job you got to go tell the story to the audience and let them have that experience there is an added element when because some of them it's like there's an acceptance of like all this is fiction and we all know this is fiction and then you go this one all the major players involved feel that this is a thing that really happened you know this is their experience and so i think we're trying to honor that yeah and present it that way the audience alternately the audience is going to different people are going to come in but i guarantee you the hardest you know most scientific minded skeptic in the world after seeing this movie is going to be a little nervous getting out of his car in a dark driveway you know well for me i mean it was the exorcist that scared me i mean what was it the hero is a person down do you remember i think i think exorcist for me it's my it's yeah i mean this is coming this is oh maybe going to rise above it i remember the shining the shining was the one who got me earliest yeah there scary stuff having somebody like lorraine warren i guess your fingertips to have around did you guys take advantage of like sitting down and talking to her to get her real life experience or was it important maybe not to talk to her so much louder for me i think yeah i felt like it was patrick and fear i had to you know that was their thing in it just didn't feel right to go it was from a distance a nice you know respect but your first job in a scary movie for the first thirty pages is to not know you're in a scary movie that's part of the fun is that the audience has you know they've seen the poster and they see the credit sequence so they have an inkling of what's going to happen but the characters really have no idea what they're in for so you know it makes it a little tricky but you want to sort of prepared and know as little as possible about what's going on so it can all take you about surprise you takes a beating in this movie like i've never seen before what kind of prep did you have to do even get psychologically prepared for this role sure well vocally i had to figure out a way to screen without killing my voice so i had to do a whole vocal thing so it's a vocal exercises i knew i needed to be in shape and and i knew i needed to do warm ups and eat right sleep right really like a physical thing like a marathon really like a training you know that's what it was and i felt totally up to it i was totally fine you know  was like watching her go through some of the same i tell you is a big part of the reason that i was excited to sign on to do this movie one because i saw insidious and two because i knew that literally when i signed on lily was already on board to play this role it's a pivotal role in the thing you know what i mean that's not it's not easy work to do and if it's not good the movie doesn't work you know what i mean like you can do whatever you can do is c g i a mask but ultimately it comes down about james what in that brain like he is just so good at this has his whole team and i think there is something that he really caught on to is is when you find when you find a good thing you stick with that he has worked with the designers on this phenomenal is editors and the target for he's a collaborator he really is and i think that's part of what it what makes him create is he knows how to listen to others but he he knows the psyche really well i think i think he knows humans you know and i think he also has going for himself he says if he doesn't get scared and well you're working on the script he keeps really doing it until he's scared working on the script so he's putting himself empathy he's got  i fell down a thoughtful ladder and down a flight of stairs and i halfway down the stairs i was like i'm probably not going to able to go to my feet when i land because i don't know what's going to and i was fine so i think after that i felt like all right you know somebody is looking out for me and i think i go off easy on this one and i have had that feel i think a lot of those stories you hear a lot of times when the director is not well you know couple apocalypse now freed connections says james this is really stable reason and see that ability to just move on they're playing games they're full of joy they're singing you know they helped the crew we didn't have to help them you know they brought kind of a life and energy to and they took care of each other to i was really proud that you know especially the two older girls who you know there are like adult women in me and working twelve hour day and at the end of the day they would take the little girls you know back to their room to play games with them or go go out to dinner with the stuff and experience and fulfilling but arizona dream with america's teresa took a year and that so i have each one is special to me like a child you know however you want they all do a little bit you know i know that's kind of a cop out answer but they all if you're doing it right there's no reason to do any there's no reason to play a part unless it's going to change your life something i you know there was one call the call the holly that i think was the kind of it was a dramatic drastic shift but but this one was you know i wouldn't have expected that this would change my life in the way it did but it really did and you very quickly did you ever want to go back and visit the real house no no i don't play with that stuff it's not a joke to me no relive this experience you mean from the beginning well basically you know when james came to you and said he was going to make this film and then the whole experience of talking to iran hijackers just and then watching it w was children coming in asking questions at that time i've realized how i could speak to you you know you weren't somebody way way way you were down to earth person that could that i could explain things to because my psychic ability i that is nothing that i had control over i had no control over it at all i was educated in private catholic girls school was and there's no such thing as anything like this happening and i would have kept going to to happen they answer i'm never gonna he says yes you have to you'll be all who learn to live with it and control it i and you live with it but it you don't control  james for you to take on this you know this story and tell it and have the rain there you know wow how amazing is that for you it was amazing i've been in big fan of lawrence for a while growing up you know i've seen you know read stories and seen you know certain movies that were based on pieces that lorraine and had investigated and and when the time came on the part when this project came along i had just finished insidious and out and i want to  get back into studio filmmaking and and this was like the perfect project for me to get back into it with you know the chance to take what i've honed over the years as a filmmaker and you know and bring it to this particular movie and you know and to do you know justice to the story of of the warrants and also the parents as well of that of the other set of families that are involved in this film was there ever a time where you decided you wanted to go back to that house the very very negative home yeah really drained everything out if you to go in that house yeah it was less scary to just sit on the house  or were cast oh you obviously had to spend some time and you know how did you you know fill them in on what happened and get them to really know how you felt and what you went through you had been a huge help to them well i don't know  how that really prochoice that you know i really don't i don't have the answer for you and now you have to help people to understand things you have to do it in pieces you know like like you were a poor child like you were trying to explain something to a child because the normal person i mentioned going through this just imagine going