come to the office take a look at the table such as this and have an explanatory documents wording it there or if they have a project they can go to a set of maps to find out where their project falls within these still global three tiers of ecological significance and then decide the best way to proceed with their project so what we're still waiting for  artificial wildlife was create a jericho specific set of data and maps that although it's useful to know how our town fits into a you know the geographical location and some of the other corresponding features in the joint tells the maps that we want you folks to understand why we're proposing the changes t and then over in the western side of town and also in the firing range there's a few areas up with natural communities that's why it's two and three and let me know if you need me to explain that we do that rare now for communities that are that are still significant that really have a high quality integrity you know good examples of those natural communities so some of them as i say are on the range but over off on top there's a couple of large areas of low l are personal pools and then there are other pools who don't quite meet a classification over vernal pool if you know what i mean yeah yeah and these just represent one level of identification when one could make the argument wetland inventory and there were three levels of engagement that we could have contracted with them and we stopped at phase two which because the conservation commission over the course of the got the years went and checked a few with the operational landowners there were a number of land owners who didn't want anybody on their property so those are  some of these uses deserve this special letter as opposed to perhaps what's already in the older version to relax and part of it has to do with whether or not a site visit early in the planning stage of whatever project comes before so that you know before a lot of money is spent and everybody gets their hopes up there's at least an opportunity for  c considered amending some language in the regs to establish some of these to establish natural resource overlay districts that it would warrant the conservation commission going back   and any subsequent submissions by project manager that there be some allowance for making sure that what's alleged to be there is actually want to build an area that's got some stuff you're interested in on it then i go to say hey i want to build a house or do whatever and they say oh we've got our own bodies by the conservation we do have already said that they're s this is something that i'm really interested in you want to make sure is well understood and that we understand ourselves and that you understand everyone understands that some of these features are very high quality data like we do know it's there that some of those things haven't been seen in a few years so it's nice for you to feel verification so that would be one where we're not saying we know it's there we would say we knew it was there fifteen years ago we knew approximately where it was but we need to do a little more research on the research to find out if it really is still there and what the impacts might be because you can't just take one of these round dots and say stay away because i didn't make sense that dog is an approximation of where that thing was some years ago you know so so so i put some of those quite accurate and then as you go to the right in the table  to build something or a parcel that doesn't involve any subdivision because if i understood you correctly if you want to build something on your land you go to the zoning office and you apply for a building permit zoning minister looks at the existing regs and checks your proposal for setbacks well shield the all the things that make a good project and at that point you you get issued a permit and then the public has thirty day comment period so if if there's a mechanism that allows subdivision proper then that's going to the d or b anyway you know what i was saying was your first area was so there's i go up stairs i say i want to build or whatever and my property is the house and property actually you happen to have a purple dot right on your property right so you should go talk to them or are they need to get involved and well that's not the way the regs are written right now but that's one possible that's one scenario that's  you know it's so there's so much subject in the forest area yes but i mean i think what exists now that within a hundred feet of everything over there was me i think that's as reasonable a rule so just a little bit of additional follow up to your question peter in terms of how it actually functions so right now if somebody for instance was proposing to do to build a house  so you have to go out and get it get a consultant to get that letter and the town actually has a process where they can be they can have an applicant so i'm not sure the plan if the conservation commission would get the call from the zoning administrator the conservation commission would then go out and do it but there there is a process already for other things where that's that's probably what would happen and that's how i would have seems to be clear where you want to do it so either have somebody go out there and find out where that is if it's there where it is and have it mapped out and once it's found if it's found here's the rules around it you have to have this much of a buffer around it and you care so that's that's how that sort of would would lay out i'm not sure at the top of my head if there's a difference in their view between someone just getting a building permit and someone going through will tell you exactly what that suggests is there's a question there's the data that came out of this whole project that incorporated into the states data you know the words data came from the state and that includes many of those everything that's on the range came through from the state to the range itself did has done a lot of ecological and yet i think one of the officers spoke to this entirely within a red arrow if it's not a reason to stop the project but i think it would trigger an error if you will or at least a p g type of a just on the street still just move the deer crossing so i'm going to yes i did you hope to find potentially other species are big enough so some significant wildlife looking at the map of that specific topic r it's not just open but that it and it's maintaining the habitat part yeah i think of you cycling review means that that and that's for subdivisions essentially right that the land that's you know that's natural land and the idea is that this is natural land and let's think let's be thoughtful about how it gets developed let's do thoughtful up because rows vidual welling's you can get a permit for individual dwelling work for places but if you're going to do a subdivision you know we think that if you're going to do a subdivision in one of these fo it's the format is typically the engineer presents for the landowner describes the thought process of what the solution would have looked like under a conventional yeah you know they describe well here's how it would look if we did it this way but we're proposing that you know i think the only real stipulation is that you have to be able to get that kind of density in a conventional  we need to revise the town plan by next year there's a chapter on natural resources we could use your help so if you are in need of another project you guys have  f well i think that it makes sense for us to nail down what that section and to just sort of do it a little bit the other way is to nail down that section of the town plan and then and redo the regulations so we can say based on our updated town plan you know i'm not nuts and i think you do need to february but for us to understand the some changes are making to the town plan understanding the new information that know i'm there the energy chapter makes sense of the time play and we want to say something a little bit differently so to keep if you if you if you are making changes to the regulations just to keep us to do your recommended changes and regulations yeah i work on chapter four to keep us apprised that  question one more thing what about development in the villages in the sort of the classic thing that we struggle with to screen people in spaces green outside the villages and for the villages you know and i appreciate that you said this is a group decision of there was directly so there's a balance there you know and that's where i think it's a you know that's what i did hear a little bit more from the group probably but again i go back to i love the green space i love the you know historic nature you know you have to targets email says they approved everything but the drive thru restriction maybe they agreed well too to not have that restriction in keep it the way that it was i did just the existing report deal because the only change is the so i guess the question is which of these other than the commercial district right which is what's changed what changed after october fifteenth my guess is it's the drive through is just if i had to guess based on more clearly what that was there said to start off saying that we want to have the smallest clearest simplest way of clarifying things about the commercial district so that what we what we know we don't want to see there will happen and she's like what is it what is up but it works and and they you know there's you're asking me and i said look you know we've been working on this what we found out very quickly is there's no simple little thing but we've been working towards defining that and and so that they found out in the conversation i said that was it seemed to be they went through with it like gee you know this this isn't really as simple as we  bit like but i just it just i don't know what that helps it's very murky and incomplete anyway but maybe as you said if it's already warned we can say we've reviewed it in let it go on its way i don't know i don't think he needs to be approving the survey  which you know we can keep working on it i mean this incident take me putting transfer in the survey monkey in a way that is you saw in the questions work and here is it take a little bit of time that's the other thing i mean i got about  guess is going to be marks of the survey of the membership but anyway so we were going to look at the introduction a little bit we were going to attention people were to have taken a look at the last one and see if there are any additional questions just save us the town i mean it sounds like it's not the money it's his concern this concern is more about us doing our own survey versus the money right that needs to be dealt with  project i'm not quite sure how long the release starts i mean the town planner will do a lot of the data work census work that sort of thing for us it's really the i would also like to have a little time to talk about the presentation from the conservation question my guess as a group so that i have something documented so we don't lose it completely and have a plan of what we want to do next meeting yes review when you section both start a recap of meeting the conservation commission actually the first thing will be interview with susan  i'm wondering if she might see it but it wouldn't be for me it would be for she doesn't start of