good evening it is february seventeenth two thousand and fifteen it is five thirty pm time for the town of richmond water and sewer commissioners meeting on the agenda this evening we have a welcome and public comment followed by an executive session discussion of potential contract with riverview com its mobile home park and then a series of items with under other business an update on the west main expense in a caution here request that came from this you very much so there is a nomination from the floor for br evening so i'd like to invite public comment we may have time later after we've gotten into substantive issues as well are there any comments from the public here this evening  we again are february seventeenth two thousand and fifteen the kind of richmond water and sewer commission are meeting let me repeat an offer i made before before we get into other business are there public comments i can also reserve time at the end where might be more useful after we have some of these conversations so there's cost and quality but no i appreciate the point that is one of the challenges we've had is is those significant rate increases and ultimately relatively high rates i would observe i don't t these are so we are concerned that's probably a good segue into the west main extension update the car share request i don't think it's lost kind of anyone here perhaps anyone in the audience the point of the west main extension are  several points to this one is a reality of an increased number of users to share fixed infrastructure costs are opportunities to expand their current water sewer systems are really limited by geography and zoning in development so the extension is one of the options to bring on new users generate new revenue negotiations continue with riverview commons so there's not much i can say about that that is one of the few things that we can think of as a way of generating additional revenue to help reduce rates for current users over time anything else we want to add about the west mean extension update website i think an article of becoming some fashion in time saying when i look at the west main extension a comment in discussions with commissioners it looks to me like the only economically viable approach to the expansion depends on two things one is substantial grant funds and we are eligible for substantial brand funds we actually cannot know that until after a week at a bon vote fails we will never know if the project is economically viable due to grant so grant funds are the first key element the other is based on volume it appears that the  it relies on the grant but also substantial number of new users the most obvious of which is riverview commons mobile home park so those two things seem to be the way to make this project  those are the conversations about the bond vote and the way this works is we have to get a bond vote for the full value of the project even if we don't intend to borrow that much money and that is just the way it is in terms of the town vote bonding and construction  but you know what else we could say or say it more clearly i think i really appreciate and i think i think unfortunately we've found ourselves in a situation where we've been saying if the intention was to have had the deal really well to the voters and time is getting quite sure you know that negotiations are continuing but even if we do there's going to be a whole question of communication and the next best thing is to have  new users get charged you know and i would like to see that myself but i would you know i certainly believe that that is the intent of the commission but items in play there is the pun the grant application and the negotiations with the mobile home park and as i perceive it all three have to be successful for the expansion to revenue goes into our setting the infrastructure cost so that ten thousand dollars is not ten thousand dollars you would have had to pay because these folks are so it's an offset of revenues geographically the extension has increasingly been viewed as a viable alternative it's more complex because if zoning and other issues but that is the one sort of half way to a significant increase in users hand really the car share request was our next item so this is an item we came up some time ago about some engineering work done for the gateway including the road and i don't know if we to cover the analysis of the four years that was the only cost you and my recollection of from two live folks feel free to jump in is that there was a request from the change in july as my recollection serves whatever it was as well that we didn't really act on it at this collect board so now we're faced with a decision is the commission that we could resurrect the seven thousand changes we improve it even though the primary fees are and units flow does generate some revenue so any other comments on this allocation them so it looks to me like the other items we have ten minutes we should approve minutes we have to approve the warrants implications of doing the budget conversation we have twenty five minutes of candor we've got about seven or even ok i'll be quick we had an interesting meeting all with the state financial folks as you know i've been mentioning east meynell regular basis is definitely over we are in the place for funding this year if you get a bond approval so i know what you're asking for the west main extension on town meeting day whether that project goes up or goes down i would like to request the commissioners  tonight and like i said you're a part of the old one way down there you think i was pretty much if you could get an approval for it we could start the project yeah there was some conversation about the relative priority of these me and west mean at westmead in sort of bummed east me in terms of a lot of the conversations here at the commission but the issue is not going away so can you describe the state of the system overall in terms of both while and in infrastructure and  west meet updates probably schedule at least a short executive session for any conversations we might need to have with us and david you be chairing this is the night before