about who by force of law bring about an end to this war has to ensure that in doing so it will be asked the a's are one eighty nine the nays are two thirty one the amendment is not adopted the question is on engrossment and third reading of the bill those in favor say aye those opposed say no the ayes have it third reading the bill to provide for reconciliation pursuant to section six one of the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year two thousand  the house will come to order the house will come to order placed a call conversation off the house floor the house will come to order illinois moved to recommit to build h r twenty six sixty nine to the committee on education labor with instructions to report the same back to the house promptly with an amendment providing that a borrower who is a full time elected public official who receives compensation for such elected position or who is a registered lobbyist that is of the federal or state level who receives compensation from want to take their city she will be ineligible for any of the been order please to call conversations off the house floor the house will come to order gentleman from illinois thank you mr speaker i offer this motion to recommit with instructions and it's around the general topic of student loan forgiveness as we know student loan forgiveness programs to help students with the cost of college or encourage them to enter a particular occupation or field it was first put in place back in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight mr speaker and the national defense education act and it was reenacted and made part of the perkins loan program and it provides forgiveness largely for borrowers who are employed in a specific public service job including teachers but over the years they added others as well i'd like to read a short list of those who are currently eligible under various programs for some student loan forgiveness they include public school teachers headstart staff whether they're teachers or not special education teachers military members in combat areas volunteers in the peace corps law enforcement officers correction officers teachers in specific areas who are teaching in math science foreign language or bilingual education nurses medical technicians providers family service agency workers researchers that and i age health professionals in the national health service corps america corps volunteers national civilian court violent here's and this deval in tears with  gentleman or with the gentleman suspend the house will come to order gentlemen deserves to be heard on this motion to recommit the house will come to order please take all conversations off the house floor gentleman from illinois may continue thank you mr speaker these long forgiveness programs are so popular in fact that forty three states currently have them congressional research service not long ago surveyed a whole host of financial aid officials across the country and came to the conclusion that these are very effective programs in meeting students financial needs and particular worse workforce needs earlier this year the house took on the challenge to expand loan forgiveness for prosecutors and public defenders and clearly there's a good public purpose behind that but now under the bill mr speaker basically anyone who works for the government or a nonprofit organization would be eligible for a loan forgiveness i repeat that basically anyone who works for the government or a nonprofit organization would be eligible for a loan forgiveness so what does that mean does that mean that members of congress would be available or would be eligible for loan forgiveness i don't know about you mr speaker but nobody sent me here to expand loan forgiveness eligibility for members of congress and in fact members of congress are eligible under this bill are members of state legislatures eligible for loan forgiveness under this bill yes are registered lobbyists who work for nonprofit organizations are they eligible yet mr speaker i'd like a a look at some of the c e o s of nonprofit organizations and reflect on their compensation and how that would play into this eligibility question according to the charity please take all conversations off the house floor the gentleman service to be heard on this motion to recommit else will come to order gentlemen may proceed mr speaker john adams the president of the natural resources defense council makes almost three hundred thousand dollars a year according to the national journal as reported in the year two thousand for the medium the median compensation for think tanks was two hundred sixty four thousand dollars a year or about this two hundred twenty seven thousand dollars a year for education government and welfare organisations does anybody really believe that these individuals need this kind of support from the taxpayers my point is that this new blanket program for nonprofit organizations will give a number of well to do individuals a government handout that they don't need and our constituents should not have to fund so the real question is whether this is the highest and best use of taxpayer dollars mr speaker i would submit that it is not so this motion to me to recommit is very simple it would prohibit a borrower who is an elected full time public official and is paid for that position as well as a paid registered lobbyist at either the state or federal level from receiving any of the loan forgive given is available under this act period very soon all very clear i think we should speak clearly to the american taxpayers that we as elected officials are not trying to create some unfair advantage for ourselves that we're not trying to reward ourselves or our elected colleagues nor any registered lobbyist certainly by giving away their hard earned taxpayer dollars to pay off student debt mr speaker i urge my colleagues to support this amendment or to at least set some parameters of this big government program under this bill and with that i yield back the balance of my house will come to order for what purpose does the gentleman from california arise i rise in opposition to the motion gentleman's recognized for five minutes the house will come to order please take all conversations off the house floor gentleman from california is recognized five minutes chairman and members of the committee this this motion to recommit is said that this will not allow a public office holder or a lobbyist get loan forgiveness this is never been raised and if you don't want them to get it right  letter will take care of it but what this does is this says that you must report this back promptly so this kills this bill this kills this bill the greatest contribution to helping families pay for education since the g i bill they want to kill it cutting interest rates in half for middle income families they want to kill it you could have written the motion another way you deliberately wrote it this way so you could kill this bill what is it you don't like about this bill you don't like the fact that while you were in power after years of flat lining the pell grant we've finally given in the beginning and crieff in decades the poorest kids in this country you don't like that so you want to kill the bill you don't like the fact that we're going to take five million middle class kids and extended them and a loan that's interest rate is cut in half while their families are struggling to get them through college they're making continue this of the members supposedly is about loan forgiveness but in the process they kill the loan forgiveness to firefighters and policemen intern or says and teachers a special education to people who hold our society together and make it work they killed that what is it they don't like about having a society that can help its children what is it they don't like about partnering up with families who want to help pay their kids education that borrow money that are told every day they have to save more for this education and here we're giving them a loan forgiveness were a loan forgiveness because they've chosen to go into a career that doesn't pay very well we're giving them an interest rate cut that will save them four thousand dollars that loan forgiveness will save them five thousand dollars we're raising them on the money that they're they can borrow no great gift to their parents money that they can borrow but they don't have to go to the private market and pay fifteen percent they can pay three point eight percent that's with this legislation is about what is it you don't understand about the americas people vision mr smith just make it what is it they don't understand about the american people vision for this country what is it you don't understand that america wants to go in a new direction what is it you don't understand about this vision of the future where the fake what we have faith and in our children where they have the confidence of their parents they have the vision that their kids can succeed that they can be the next generation of discoverers of innovators of those who create economic opportunities and hire other people or get hired that's vision america wants and it needs help to pay for that education and that's what this legislation does that's what this legislation does yes we help those minority serving institutions i guess you don't like that either you know and yes we thought we would partner up with some of the richest people in the world who said that if you know that if your partner if we think we can raise hundreds of millions of dollars report children so we said you raise a dollar will match it with fifty cent they're now telling us they think they can raise hundreds of millions of dollars of private money sounds kind of republican to me but what the hell i don't know the fact of the matter is we have a bill here we have a bill here gentlemen has been here house will come to order all members are reminded to address their comments to the chair the house will come to order gentleman from california is recognized and we even get a multiplier in this bill we tell high achieving college students are studying math science and engineering if you will commit to going in and teaching in the most difficult schools in this nation you'll bring your talents to those kids will give you four thousand dollars to assure relief while you're in school not later and we know that that's a multiplier because we know that kids are exposed to highly qualified and effective teachers can learn things that we can't believe of and that the give back to the society at the end of the day maybe speaker pelosi said it best the dollars we invest in this legislation the dollars we invest in these young people that we invest in their families in their futures in their competencies comes back to us the year from the from the same group of people as they graduate they return the gifts they return this gift to the nation we're trying to do for this next generation what my grandparents did for me what my parents did for me and when those investments that they made in the college systems of this country and the g i bill in this country what did they do they took america to the premier position in the world and economic leadership in national security in foreign affairs took us to the first place in the world and been there for fifty years based upon that investment america knows now that they need a new investment and that's what this legislation is about it's about a new investment for the next generation the next generation of talent and johnson and his and steel and beautiful young people to feel young people who want their future to be is rewarding as all of our  mr speaker parliamentary inquiry if if this motion to recommit is passed it does not kill the legislation does it not simply send it back to committee the chair will not interpret the motion not proceed your of this house as far as the speaker's in control of this body would he not be learned enough to know that if this motion passed  gentleman's out of order emotion is not agree with mr speaker mr speaker for what purpose does the gentleman from illinois ron asked for a recorded vote recorded vote is requested those favoring a recorded vote will rise sufficient number having risen a recorded vote is ordered members will record their vote by electronic device pursuant to calls eight hundred twelve none of rule twenty this fifteen minute vote on the motion to recommit will be followed by a five minute vote on passage of h r twenty six sixty nine afford and suspending the rules in passing h r five fifty six this will be a fifteen