interest of certain regulations around the commercial district and i think it's unfortunate that the project is likely to go forward decides what funding to go after right you know they got a couple planning to make suggestions but didn't the idea for the survey come out of our discussion about the commercial district i mean are we what we've been aware that the clock's been taken and we've got to start thinking about another plan another version of the town plan but i thought i think yesterday yeah but i thought the thing that precipitated this specific discussion about the survey had to do with you know let's feel what hotel to truly thinks about the community about the commercial district because some of us had a really strong sense about what the community what we thought the community wanted when it came to the commercial district and this was kind of a way to test the waters and john you want to i think the impetus of the survey was we were having a discussion about the commercial district and we had strong feelings on wanting to get more public in but my sense is that if you're going to take the time to send out a survey and get the public to groups that work from the town toward water and towards the commercial towards commercial or is it sort of general planning questions because it again if this if this notion came out of our discussion about the commercial district that's one thing but if we're going to now talk about sort of a pricey this one if it is ten then maybe we do want something a little bit broader and we have to be careful you put in too many questions people got out so we did that with the energy  or something like that you were kind of limited in what you could do but we did a longer one as well right we did a postcard and we did a longer story but i would say that if you do more than fifteen questions you're pushing except there are so many variables in the code that you can i'm not sure you can say that the nine hundred people who voted against it are rooting against open space some of them are voting against the fire department out of principle some of them are would we feel comfortable really putting the brakes on development that district or is there not but you know is there not a stomach for that in this community that they were not they can list and they have like you can't you have to there's actually a lottery in terms of just as far away in the other direction so who  what do you think it makes sense to go through the questions here and make sense for us all take maybe have jennifer send out her thoughts to the whole room to help people get and have people to come up with specific questions in those two categories commercial just well i like i like the idea of the more specific questions i mean these were one of my comments was annoyed with two or three surveys over the course of the year and then sort of a one a one shot an operative one time opportunity to get input on multiple issues i don't  true we do need to update the town plan and seems to me that this is a good opportunity to throw in a couple of other questions to gauge what people want but that no we don't have to do much with the town but if we choose to we can take that the town couple that seems to be some types of some flashpoints and you know run by a couple of those things that we are and i think as a group we probably could identify a couple of those that would be worth checking out a little bit further commercial retail you know whatever particular types of uses the only thing is you know at the end of the day we don't have we're not going to get a unanimous reading we're not going to get an eighty nine percent on exactly where it turns into jericho on top of that cliff is a huge area that i don't know if it's workable or whatever but it's sure is close to the interstate and i i think i might eliminate for the the same reason that people might be the same people who think it's balanced people may think it's balance for different reasons and i was going to say that it's the answers of nicely poorly i'm not sure i'm going to tell us carrier pigeon or drone y even though we're not in charge of spending i think it's an important thing to see where people want their money spent so consider that matrix for the village centers says you know do we need more of or do we have enough of the following there responding to the survey i mean it's interesting that it's not going to it's going to help it's interesting but it may not might actually make things worse for saying i was this for over the village district so what do they which is do you work in jericho but i figured as long as we're trying to figure out demographics that that's something interesting to find out how many people actually work and again it's not crucial then you know maybe that in impacts traffic patterns you know and you know upgrading roads and then also i am sorry regulations test rules and home occupations that could be made more jen why would you ok but you really make me work tonight ok so i want to know that that is one reason why i know that if somebody if the surveys are really skewed toward not wanting to invest in any capital projects whatsoever and we find that we've interviewed a lot of people who are older that might tell you that that you know that as the population continues to age we're going to have to be a lot more careful with what we spend time studying or i think it's more like so you're right we don't need that ok i think it does make sense just to make sure you are getting all you have eighty five percent people who are over fifty already have forty or something  about childcare and there were a lot of different ways to interpret that have the demographics  it hasn't come up for us that and there's a lot of other issues that raises questions much more right so i got i guess i got to that question by thinking about you know what i want to ask how old people are like i know intuitively that's the right question to ask but they're trying to break down ari why do i know that's the right question to ask i mean yes you know you sample obviously but then also because i think that there are certain questions that we need to ask certain segments of the populace to kind of see whether out and just see how they weigh in on it them we have a few gentle have been so we have the notes they have from our discussion earlier are what john is saying should be expanded to this area should there be retail or potentially have like a list of some of the like reference a table of uses or some of the uses that we're having trouble determining ask people about those uses and then this idea of the dip in the three different visions that jen laid out for the commercial district which one resonates with people unless you feel like creating those three visions is to manipulate him to get even back at one step and say ok what do you think about residential in the commercial district what do you think about big box retailer the commercial they start with you think about you know we could corporation came to jericho and there's only didn't allow that size store anywhere in this town would you feel comfortable in that you know because i was in talks about my line dollar top dollar general the future i really can't i don't see how we can do that unless we're restricting size and i don't know if we are brave enough to do that but we could be you know we have to be are we ready to send people away who want to do certain kinds of things they're doing it it's interesting  was dollar general even like he's totally crappy store and for your heart broken legs in the unlike the main street of our town it was really that to me the commercial district like when you talk about being close that's your vision ours is right along route fifty but if it were on the way the auto smith is where it's and us would start a curb cuts inside things were like off on the industry yes or no i don't even know that i would say yes or no easily i have to say where are you going to put it what's it going to look like am i going to see if i drive there are going to see it every day when i have nothing to do with that store so you're right to make the questions really specific and that so to just so i just for one thing only it's really hard to get the right answer when you design a circle not even the right answer to get the answer you think you're getting when you're designing the question because opposition to development in the commercial district is subject to what a million variables  and and that particular one is very retail work and so you have a commercial district off of the interstate where nobody's ever going to see it but it allows every day you convenient retail it's going to be a major thoroughfare it's not going to be what that other definition in the commercial district i know there is the new on some of the nuances you're getting at you can't get in that survey question you know you're right only get that in an open ended you go to our survey question but some of the we're facing some of the you know more straightforward bigger issues mind if there is a big boxes on this i can't see it or you know this and that we can you really have to have a hundred questions to get all the different variations of what specific people care about are going to care about and i to literally hundreds of people you get these different reactions and then you go where you need it and they think completely different thing concessions for people who have lots that can't be subdivided and that it's not our question about well you know if why are we going to allow big accessory dwellings you know they should just subdivide and do it fair and second oh