the plan for the evening is i'm going to walk you through the plan right now so kathy sorry nancy dignan my co chair of the feasibility committee is going to give us a brief framework of what we've done in the feasibility study and we've done a lot to us here enjoy that and she's going to review the community input we've gotten and we've gotten a lot of that we've talked to over five hundred people and we've been going through this for the last six to eight months so we've tried to meet with every single person but i'll let her explain all that to you and then finally kathy kahane are the chair of our library trustees and also on the feasibility committee is going to go through the project costs what we've done and what we've come up with and then we're going to leave it to stuart to review the floor plans and we know these are not elegant floor plans they're just boxes to show you how our programs and and what's possible so let me introduce kathy or sorry nancy all right i think dignan and i'm the past president of the friends of the belmont public library and the other co chair for the library feasibility committee so we started this whole thing in the spring of two thousand and fifteen when we hired peters to zero as our new library director we invited him to come join us here in belmont that fall the trustees appointed a long range planning committee made up of library staff key users and community members after a period of months the committee submitted a new five year plan focused on programs and other service goals for the library this plan finalized and approved by the board of library trustees and then by the mass board of library commissioners trustees and peter put the plan into practice about a year ago in january of two thousand and sixteen the board of trustees peter worked next on a building programme with the help of a consultant and this helped us to determine the needed areas in a reimagined library space driven by the five year long range plan once this building programme was complete we had the driver for the next phase so at a spring town meeting the trustees in the town agreed to share the cost of the feasibility study and in july architect stuart roberts was hired from an original pool for over a dozen interested firms he and peter then began collecting community input and holding informational meetings immediately now we're going to review that import that we received from the citizens and library staff members and belmont in july our library director began hosting a series of informational meetings with stewart and members of the feasibility committee together we hosted government official town department heads leaders of various community groups plus key library staff and users the feedback and the ideas were generated at each of these each of those meetings and the fat feedback helped to shape our plans going forward at this point peter's hosted about thirty to thirty five of these meetings most recently in january and this slide right here will show you as if you've been to any of our other meetings you've seen that it has grown so we have talked to the technology library and we've talked to the of women voters we've talked to the chair of the capital budget committee the department of public works the fire department the community development office the chair of the high school building committee and on and on we really have tried to reach out to every single group that we think might be able to inform our purpose so in addition to these meetings we've also gotten an incredible amount of feedback more than ever before this early in this kind of a process we ran a survey that had over two hundred responders and more feedback still from over one hundred attendees at our two previous informational forums we've also had two teen focus groups and a great children's program where we got some of our most creative ideas for the space you'll see some of the ideas hung up around the back of the room they clued a big ball pit a large on the premises and a water fall on the roof but all kidding aside the community responded wonderfully to the idea of driving this process and tonight's options were created with belmont input and for that we are very very grateful ok as always there was no shortage of opinions here in belmont and though we don't have the capacity this evening to share every single idea that was given to us and that we heard we did want to share some of the ideas that we heard a lot of that kept coming up so the first one we heard a lot of was the requests for more comfortable seating and more seating period we've also heard a request for more desks and workspace for patrons no i don't think it is can i turn it on is it hello i guess it is sure oh right we've also heard that there is a need for quiet study rooms better lighting bathrooms and a bigger elevator for wheelchairs and  strollers or technology which can be something as varied as computers or a self checkout machine for the library more flex space or more flexible space for programs meetings and community offerings people wanted increased hours they wanted a larger children's space they want to fix the front steps they'd like to build a maker space for steam and stem educational opportunities they'd like more parking we all would and they'd like more opportunities for light snacking here at a library and again these are just a few of the suggestions that we've received and that we heard multiple times at this point i'm going to turn it over to kathy to continue with the rest of the program great before we get into these details i want to go backwards before we go forwards i think one of the questions that i've gotten specifically from folks in the in the public domain is why are we doing a fuse ability study again haven't we done that in the past and there have been other studies done but we are committed to this site and the data that we had on this site was ten years old so it's very important for us to get current information about as as nancy and elaine were saying programs and services need to drive the building structure so needed to kind of kind of go back look at what we need for a library to meet the next fifty years and then how do we translate that into a building need and a facility and then how do we evaluate this facility and what we need so it was important for us to get current numbers you know yourself you would never use ten year old data to make a change on your house or your car so that was an important thing for us to do so we're going to go through to a famous and these are i think important talk about the different programs space that we need and it's color coded so you'll be able to see and look across this was something that was very helpful to us from a few usability committee to look at compare and contrast as you can see the program space which is the first column it is really what what is it that we desire when we think about the programs and services that we need in the library of the future that this column speaks to to the areas what it is that we need from from a square footage in the next column speaks to what do we have today and the existing facility next and that is renovation only and  would we achieve from a renovation only next is renovation plus addition and last would be in a new facility so when you think about what nancy was sharing and i know these are being handed out  what nancy shared was what do we hear from from the public and you can see that reflected in the designs and the square footage allocations here most importantly was a children's room so if i'm if i'm down on the bottom and you can look across from a children's room so what the program what we're looking for and what would be desired would be sixty six hundred square what we have today twenty eight hundred peter and i have had a couple of debate because we have had programs where we are at capacity and cannot service all the people that want to participate and we've been forced to think about do we need to close it off do we need to say to people i'm sorry you can't participate in the program we just don't have enough space from the children's room so i think that can as you go across you can see what we get with each of the options and terms of the space and allocated based on the different programs that we have so the key changes here are really what do we have what do we what do we need and what would we like what did we hear from the public and you see it reflected in  framework here there are some areas where we're actually going to go down on space if you look at the top from a circulation and staff area you know we're looking to go down you know a modest amount there are areas we're going up other areas where allocating specific space but i think really what key is having more space for periodicals and popular materials strong feedback from the public you know and improve space for young adults so that some of the programs you see that some of the fliers out here homework and trying to really drive the participation for that age group which is really under served day and then also investing in the children right you want to move on to the next oh next we're going to we're going to here's the cost and so what we want to do is to kind of share this with you first so you can see it and then as we're going through the designs you have this as a framework it's all about trade offs and what is it that we're looking for so one other thing that we didn't mention is as part of the feasibility we had a structural engineer u come in and do an assessment of the building one of the things that we learned is that the existing roof is an adequate and that we have a real situation with looking at the existing roof and looking to replace th right now so renovation with a dish with addition comes in at about fifty eight point renovation restoration no addition i apologies fifty fifty fifteen million point eight million renovation in addition twenty four point six million new construction a little bit less store will get into some of the details about why the square footage is bigger in around evasion and he'll do a much better job than i will from a practical standpoint a renovation addition keeps all of the the walls in the structure so when you think about what's important in a library is a line of sight and being able to look across and  have open space for the program so i think that store all walk through that but in order to get what we need and the renovation addition causes us to need more square footage to accomplish the building program needs the other thing that we tried to consider as well as it's not just the cost to build but it's also the cost to maintain from a from a staffing standpoint as well as from a heating utility is an ongoing perspective so we've tried to give you a sense for what that would be because i think all three are important you know i think it's you know one thing with the renovation or the renovation addition is that we actually trip given the scale of the renovation while trick the trip the seismic requirements and have to make it additional investment to come up to code on  that i think this speaks for itself we're going to get into a little bit you know a lot more detail and stuart goes through each of the options and you can see you know back to the color coded slide which is my favorite one because it's really about how do we look at the needs of the future and terms of program services what do we get and what are the trade offs across the options and you'll see that even staying in this space we have tonight we're going to get to a q and a and get input from folks and that will then inform a recommendation that the feasibility committee will make and present that to the board of trustees board of trustees would then take it forward so i know we have a couple one on one second please we've got a couple folks here we have been working with the capital budget and the financial task force and sharing information about our progress and where we are and so i think there's a good partnership engagement with those two groups ok so i'm going to walk you through the plans and some images of what the buildings might look like and talk about the things that are included and touch on the pros and cons of each of each of the different schemes when we started out let's say you want to go to this is really where we're starting from this is kind of the existing site plan you can see the existing building in yellow this is the existing building now let me just talk about the existing building promote because we as you heard we had our structural engineer come through and do an analysis of the existing structure and overall i would i would say this is probably not a building that was built for the ages and that kind of came through in the structural report that we got back we had known from some previous studies that had been done that when the floor when they designed the building this was precise building codes so for instance the floors we knew were designed so that they're not to the standard that you would need to carry books stacked loadings so currently even though there are stacks on them they're really not designed to carry the kind of book loading that you would have in a modern library so we knew that going into it one of the things that has recently changed is the codes have been changed since some of the previous feasibility studies were done  that now well there are requirements for seismic upgrades because we are in an earthquake zone in massachusetts and this building was built with unreinforced masonry so in an earthquake it would just shake to pieces so we are required if we're doing the kinds of renovations that we're talking about to go back and reinforce the walls to make the building more rigid so that's new since some of the previous studies that were done so the walls weren't designed to take earthquake loading then i think probably big surprise that we found from the structural review is looking at the original documents the the roof was built at about half the capacity that you'd like to have for snow loading in massachusetts so it's really grossly undersized i know there's been some problems over there hasn't collapsed and it's probably not in danger of collapsing but it has sagged and it's caused numerous problems that are evident if you were to go up on the roof so kind of in summary we have floors that don't carry books we have walls that aren't rigid to support seismic loads and we have a roof that's undersized for snow loading on top of that you look at the systems in the building and they're all original to the building and so they've really reached the end of their useful life the libraries there's been maintenance that been ongoing but the systems are old and they're not as efficient as current systems would be we have an elevator that's undersized by current access requirements there were some rid of ations that were done to it recently but for a while they were run out of parts they couldn't get parts for the elevator so the building overall it's got a lots of things inside in terms of building systems that need to be replaced and there are structural issues so that's kind of that's kind of the baseline of where we are you can see the color coded plan appeared of these colors would tie back to your chart so all but every time you see yellow that's the children's department that's yellow on your chart you kind of want to do tied together but you can see there are the three levels of the building there's the lower level that we're in and we're in that blue room over on the end of the meeting rooms or in blue up on the main level you can see the green areas which are the adult services the claflin room in blue the brown areas which are the administrative areas in the teen room up here is kind of orange and then up on the very top floor we have but it's really book collections and there are some attic space in storage up there that most people wouldn't know it's up there but that's that's really how the building is laid out just kind of some of the existing structural floor plans the building is framed it's a very lightweight system that frames the floors the roof is actually wood framed over the top of the roof and we have bearing walls around all through the building which also  limit our ability to replant existing building ok so building program building program really identifies all the things that we'd like to have in  a modern library for belmont and this is all color coded again would tie back to your chart but just to tell kind of explain what's in the building program you know the library is really the one public institution that has got something for everybody in the community and it from preschool kids up to seniors there should be something for everybody in the library whether you're coming to read whether you want to come to socialize it's really should serve everybody and this building program has been designed to try to answer all of those kinds of community needs so the children's departments may be a little hard to see but that's the yellow area over here and that has different areas for different ages of kids so there's activity areas for young kids there's picture book areas there are study areas for older kids there is a children's activity room so that when they have programs which we know are very popular i've seen them pictures the ones that were in this room they can have them in the children's department and not have it affect the rest of the functions of the children's department so children's i think it's i think it's kind of been identified as one of the things i think we've heard back really strongly that the community would like to see the children's department improved meeting spaces we have a multipurpose room that's a little bit bigger than this room because this room is that capacity many many times we have another conference room that would be about the same size as the flat room so the brown areas these are circulation and office areas i won't go into these into much detail as we go up there is a young adults area we're looking to about double the size of the young adults area to about fourteen hundred square feet the or injuries over here are kind of popular materials paperbacks audio visual  materials and a new books and we want to have a good browsing space for those that's what's up in the kind of corridor upstairs now and we'd like to have a space where we could spread out a little bit more and do something that has more of a kind of bookstore feeling to it reference room the reference collection has shrunk so now you know we don't have lots of reference books but instead we have more and more computers and study spaces that we're providing and even lounge chairs because people sit in lounge chairs and use laptops now so we want to provide that kind of soft seating in a reference department claflin local history room would store would remain basically in that same size perhaps that same location some of them innovations says we have the belmont room which is really that's really your local history collection and you have it upstairs in the mizzen in the upstairs there's a computer and digital media lab so people can come in and work on projects or there could be training sessions you could come in and learn how to do a website or a blog or learn about a piece of software so study rooms is one of the things that we heard that the community wanted so we have a number of small group study rooms that can be used for tutoring or collaborative projects a whole host of  ways that those rooms can be used periodicals and wife eye area so with periodic collections and plenty of lounge seating in their friends collection friends book sale which is important to the library and then we have our fiction and nonfiction books stacks and a seeming areas this this really represents book stacks that are just a little bit more than what you currently have in the building so we're not really looking at a huge increase in the book collection  really most of the increase that we're looking at in terms of space it's people spaces it's people places to sit places for kids places for teens not so much an expansion of the book collection so that's kind of that's the building program overall kind of represented in those colors you'll see those colors again in the floor plans you're going to look at in just a moment ok so option number one right we've got three options just to remind you one option one is what happens if we just renovate this building not going to add on to it just renovate option two would be what happens if we renovate the building and do an addition and option three is what if we take it down so this first option we're going to look at is the renovation only and sort of the obvious thing i would point out right off the bat is  have a building program that calls for thirty eight thousand square feet and we have an existing building that's about twenty nine thousand square feet so how do you fit thirty eight thousand square feet in twenty nine thousand square feet and the answer is of course you can't so there are certain things that we just keeping all the parking as it goes around the building one of the site constraints of this point you probably almost but we have the wellington broke which runs back behind the property you so we're really limited in where we can develop on the property really can't go beyond the areas that have already been developed on the property ok so we could go to go to the first floor plan ok so first this is the first floor plan and you can see the first thing you'll notice of this is there are things that are outside the building that ha through them and those are all the spaces that we just can't fit in now as you went through another pass through of the design you might decide to put some other things in and take some things out but the point being we just can't fit thirty eight thousand square feet into twenty nine thousand square  feet one of the big desires though was to expand the children's department that's because that's such a crying need for your community so this children's department is larger than the current than the children's department you currently have but it doesn't have everything in it that the other two options would have so there's no children's story program room and some of the collections we just don't have room for but the idea with this plan is that we would renovate the lower level we're going to we're still going to keep the two entrances coming into the building but we're going to add a new stair over here so that when you came into the building you wouldn't have to go up what does this kind of enclosed little stairway like a better connection between the two floors so we've added a stereo and there's a brand new elevator that we put in a better location which is kind of in the center of the plan we keep we've actually moved the meeting rooms over to the other side of the plan and we have new toilet rooms that are near them and so all of that can work in an after hours zone so that we can kind of close that off and you can have access to those times when the library might be closed and then the other side of the plan we have so much technical services and some administrative offices down on the lower level as well as we go up to the main floor again you can see the kinds of things that we just don't have room for we just don't have room for all of the book collections if we want to get seating and so this would require cutting down on the book collections a little and we've also spread the books out a little bit because the floor loading really won't take the kind of book stacks that you do in a new building so then you have to spread them out or make them lower reference department gets moved over to one side we're providing more computers plenty of study spaces a young adult space that's located down on the front of the building so you move back through the claflin room would become a periodicals and wife finally found circulation desk is really going to stay right where it is because we're keeping that  entrance that would come in from the street circulation work room and kind of take over where the administrative offices are now we get the book collections back over on the other side so there's there's what we can fit in of the fiction and nonfiction collections in this plan and then we have popular materials kind of back behind the stairs in the elevators back over here so the stair that would go on up this is disturb would basically be in the in that atrium opening that when you get up to the upper floor so that would take you up to the upper level and we have a few more library functions on the upper limb but you can see the things we don't have we don't have a maker space we don't have all the reference we don't have a digital media lab we don't have one of the study rooms we had to cut models and this is a computer model this is basically the building which have just have trees and almost things on it but it but this is the base kind of this is the this is the existing building is it sits on the side well one of the things i'd point out this is showing the front steps although in the in the when we did the cost estimates we actually priced take getting rid of the front steps because we understand with the front steps already been fixed once and it didn't work because of some of the geotechnical issues so  the plan with this renovation really being we just get rid of the front steps and we'll do some new sidewalks little people so that's about the only change on the outside of the building that you notice ok so the summary chart right so you can see  kind of the difference from the program the existing basically the building is twenty nine thousand six hundred fifty square feet and you can see the kinds of things that we have you can kind of compare between the existing and where the renovations are it gives you a little sense for  the areas within the building one of the things you'll notice is b b if you total all of all these are net square footage so these are all the things that are in the building then we have a little factor down here for that covers the area that's taken by the walls and by the toilet rooms in the mechanical rooms and those things in the building it actually increases a little bit in the renovation because one of the things we have to do to reinforce the walls the exterior walls would be we basically the plan would be we'd take these walls kind of down to the brick that's on the back side we put a reinforcing mash everyplace around the outside of the building they come back and shot treat on about four inches of concrete to tie that all together so that we can make that wall rigid then we build a new wall inside that we can get some insulation in because you don't have any insulation in these walls now and that means we would  be bringing the walls in about eight inches all the way around to accomplish that that means that you lose about eight hundred square feet in the building just accomplishing just that little piece so that's one of the reasons that those numbers change  so so this is kind of the pros and cons and you can see the the cost of this one that is about fifteen million eight hundred and that's a project cost so that when you see these numbers as if that's a number that includes construction it includes furnishings so new furniture for the building a little bit of a v equipment we've got all the architecture fees the fees for a project manager project expenses that we need like surveys and materials testing and hazardous materials removal and then on top of everything we've also allowed for escalation because the longer the we go  out the more the project is going to cost so we're have targeted all of these with the idea that we would be starting in the design work kind of final design work in around march of two thousand and eighteen and starting construction in twenty nineteen so that's kind of that's kind of the base that's where the fifteen million eight comes from that's really that's the whole project not just the construction cost sometimes that's a little confusing ok option two so option two this is the renovation and addition scheme so this one does meet the program it's a little bit larger than what the program calls for and that's because as we got into the planning when you try to take  certain size spaces and fit them into a building that already has certain size spacing that sometimes they fit and sometimes they don't so sometimes we have something in a space that's bigger than it would be that it calls for in the program there are some inefficiencies that are just inherent in the way that the building lays out and so that we came up with a building here that's just a little bit a little bit larger than what we have and what the building program calls for so the addition for this one you can back here so that's the existing building right here so what we're doing is we're doing in addition across the front so we're bringing it out to about twenty five feet off the property line in the front that's what the zoning set would call for and we're doing in addition on this side of the building for the children's department coming over to the you can see this is the kind of the edge of where the existing parking is kind of sense for how far out in that direction we're going  because of these structural and seismic requirements we can't really take these walls down so we have a children's department that takes up this space and space that's out there but we can't really open them up we can take these windows and cut them down and make them floors but we can't knock the whole wall out because of the rigidity issue with the with the seismic restrictions so what we do here because we've added on to the building on this side we're  parking on the side so we do parking the scheme we would maintain the parking in the back and there's a possibility that we might get one or two more spaces out kind of down here but the idea with this one is we're also going to get rid of the steps in the front and do a new entrance that would come in at grade from the sidewalk so from the sidewalk you could come straight in but you'd be coming into this level not the level upstairs and that means we've moved the circulation desk so it would be down at that lower level if you come in here or you could come in from the parking is your is i did tonight come into the building and you really go by the circulation desk before you go on into quiet this is set up again with the toilet rooms and the meeting room so that you can have an after hours own come in there's the circulation oh here we go circulation desk right we have the popular materials which are across from the circulation desk administrative spaces and the children's department this is set up with the children's story craft room this is picture books for younger kids and that's the older kids area  floor upper floor is really it's really the adult services so you'd come up a new set of stairs or an elevator you derive on this floor we have we've got all the books stacks of the program calls for in here now one of the advantages of putting books stacks over here this is all new construction so i can structure this so that i can get books in here we still need to make these books probably probably a little bit shorter in here but we're able to get the whole collection in so that this is the  non fiction collection we've got fiction stack spec here it's a little bit of fiction seeding there's a computer and digital media lab young adults we have a maker space there's periodicals which we put in the front right so this is part of the new edition the memorial kind of remains here where it is in the lobby the claflin room stays right where it is but it is going to lose its windows because we're going to do an addition to the front and we put the belmont room with historical collections in front and three study rooms across the front to show what it might look like so what we've done here is we really kind of try to do a building that kind of takes its its design basis from the original building so we've kind of continued the gables out this is a new entrance that would come in at grade right everything that you're looking at here is new because right the existing building is behind the new construction so the existing building is coming over here and there you can see that's the part that is the that new addition of go over on the side a couple more views from the street of what that might look like ok so again this is here's the the space center you can kind of compare the program back to the to the existing building and what we have for the renovation addition by the time are all told we're about forty five thousand seven hundred square feet or so for this one it just gets to be a little bit bigger we again have the seismic issues we have to redo the roof follow the things that we had in the renovation issue are still issues for the renovation in addition ok so it's a little bit bigger some of the advantages of this one one of the things that it does is i think it improves the building security because you have there's a little bit of an issue now you don't use is in this day and age you want to be careful about who comes into the building who leaves the building and making sure that you know who's coming and going so i think we've improved the security in this one by bringing everybody and passed a central point instead of as you have now people can walk in in this entrance or walk in that entrance and you may or may not know that somebody said the building and so somebody could leave by want of those entrance they could leave with the child or they could leave with materials so i think the renovation plan tried to address that security issue this is this one is probably the of in terms of energy efficiency is probably one of the least inner g efficient ones it's bigger so our addition we could be we can do a better tighter skin one of the constraints that we have in the existing building is the mechanical systems in a new building we we would plan it with more room floor to floor that gives us room above the ceiling that we can do air distribution when we do air distribution we can do heat exchange so that when you expel air from the building you can pull the heat out of it and put it back in to the fresh air that's coming into the building in this building we can't do that because we don't have room for ductwork so we would be doing some kind of a fan quote kind of system like like you currently have in the building so energy really like is one nice big room for the children's bar but we really can't do that because we have to leave walls in place you can still walk through and see but it's not as good as having it be one big room we're going to need to put a fire suppression system in a sprinkler system that's going to need to run below the structure and the ceiling is pretty much tight to the structure so probably the ceilings are going to need to come down probably four six inches so we still have the floor loading issues  unresolved or that we can't correct and this one is really this is you know this is the most expensive one and it's really because we have to do so much renovation work to the existing building plus the kind of loss of efficiency means that it's  it's a little bit bigger which contributes makes the operating costs a little higher makes construction cost a little ok oh and should the i guess this last point here just just makes the point that  all of these estimates are tied to a calendar so if we didn't start to design by two thousand and eighteen and you did it in two thousand and nineteen the cost of this projects going up about a million dollars every year ok option three is new construction so for this one we have taken the building and it really goes off to kind of to the swimming pool side of the site and then we're able to get a larger parking  lot over in here this is we're bringing people in about where you come in from the existing building i think we might be over just a little bit but we're able to develop a lot that's a little bit more efficient a little bit better laid out than what you currently have this is kind of that's we're still staying within the bounds of the existing develop site and then we have a brand new two story building which is built over on the side we were able in this one on the site plan we're able to develop some outdoor garden areas so there's a potential to have a children's story garden which might be over here and perhaps an adult reading garden might be located on the side two stories this is kind of organized a little bit like the last one you still come in at grade right from the sidewalk you can come in right from the parking lot at grade and get in this is our after our zone again so we have the toilets the meeting rooms there'd be a nighttime closure that would close that off so that secure times when the library might be closed you come on in here's a circulation desk right in the middle of the plan popular materials are located across from the circulation desk children's department you'd come straight through and here we have kind of one big room for the children with the children's picture books on one side the older kids in the middle computers kind of activity area for younger kids we have the children's work room and the store and crafts room which is located and then up stairs this is all the adult services so this is set up with nonfiction stacks on one side fiction stacks on the other and seating going all down the middle so this is seen in for fiction nonfiction large print collections there's a reference area computers there's a reference desk to get up to the floor i've been pointed out before but stare in elevators to you to rival here right at the reference desk if you needed help we have the belmont room there's the reference work room computer digital media lab the class one local history room upstairs maker space library administrations and storage and technical services up on the upper floor now this c take many forms but this is one way that it might look so we've set this up this meets your current zoning so we have some height restrictions in terms of the current zoning it might be that we could get some zoning relief but we won't really be able to do that till we move into the next phase of design but that's how it how it might look kind of gives you an idea the intent here is not so much say you know that's going to be this color a brick it's to tell you that it's going to be about this big and this is kind of a roughly what it might look like from the street ok so this compares the existing of the program with the new this one because it's new construction we can fit things inefficiently so that overall we're about thirty eight thousand nine hundred fifty square feet the circulation is laid out officially so that our our the non assigned number came down a little bit we don't have to lose the space for the seismic reinforcing all of those things we've we've been able to meet the program in all of the areas be compared back to the program or pretty close to what the program calls for ok so considerations here we obviously need a building program this is new construction so one of the advantages of new construction is that we can be probably a little bit more energy efficient we can do a better building skin tighter skin than what you currently got and we can lay it out in a way that's nice and efficient obviously because it's new construction it's going to be all the code so we're going to meet the seismic codes we're going to be able to meet the book loading requirements all the energy requirements that we have to have for the building so this is probably this is probably the most energy efficient because in this plan we're able to get that space that i talked about so that we can get air distribution of ductwork so that we can do more efficient mechanical system i think this one also improves building security for the same reason that the renovation additions skiing dad were coming in to a controlled point where the circulation desk is and so people at the desk can really see everybody who's coming and going from the building the parking lot we have about the same number of spaces as you currently have on site so we haven't added any we haven't lost any it's just about the same number that you currently have and again this is a cost projection on this would go up by about nine hundred thirty thousand dollars where we made it to be a little bit different and that's because it was pulling forward and we just and differently and that whole the whole wall that we can't really get out so all you're saying all of this we really tried to make it look pretty much like it does now except for this right this is the piece that's a little different than it was really because we have this little piece that popped out in front of where the the roof line is again this is not really to say this is exactly what it's going to look like right there's plenty of design that would be coming in the next phase so this is more to give you an idea connell in general terms what it looks like from the street there  we we usually do team rooms let's go once you go to the new building we so the idea i think the best way to do teen rooms is to do them so that the teens feel like they're on their own but somebody can keep an eye on them we we've done it in a way so it's in its head they have their own space right and it's a nice space on the corner of the building but this is a glass wall so from the reference desk or from out in here you can see hannah know what's going on right you can't you couldn't still we're doing the kind of renovations obviously that where you couldn't stay in the building even if you just renovated this building so the plan would be that there would be a temporary library someplace and we don't know where that would be yet but someplace in town probably the library would it would it wouldn't might not be the full collections and all the services but it would be at another site and that's probably on the order of a year to a year to year and a half depending on which scheme that it would take to do the construction work itself so that i get all your questions read a second part they're probably all about the same yeah yeah probably all of them would be similar kind of timeframe someplace between a year and an eighteen months i would well have to say we would look to a lot of schemes and we had some that had more parking than one who than what we currently have by a by a few spaces there was always a back and forth on the committee between having green space and yeah yeah it was just you know it's an underground part is just completely expensive probably you know i would guess today an underground parking garage is probably going to cost sixty thousand dollars parking space or something like that so it's just it's so i think we may be calling it informal reading because cafe one of the point i'm trying to make is cafe is really a little misleading because people see a cafe and they think they're going to be able to go in and get out of beale tea or something at the cafe and that's not really what it is but  we are interested in providing places in the library where people can come and socialize and have a cup of coffee so we have what we're calling the the pyrrhic periodicals and wife right so the idea here is it's come like a starbucks that's was  really kind of the inspiration for it and that's located right yeah right down here so we put it right down here kind of at the end of the building so there's lots of glass here nice views out nice place to set you can  socialize and then we just really have a coffee bars so it'd be like a keurig machine like in the back of the room and you can make a cup of coffee and chat to friends and hang out read the periodicals or go online or whatever doing is we have a thirty foot height limit currently in the zoning now we might be able to go and get some relief you know later on when we when the plans are more definitive so that thirty feet means that we're planning on to the lower level with about a ten foot ceiling right and then about a four foot space till we get to the upper floor then the next the upper floor has about a twelve foot ceiling and another four foot space which gets us up to the thirty feet and then that little  on the roof is because the zoning says we can go another four feet up to that to a ridge so i'm that's everything in there is a right to the maximum want your current zoning laws so it is higher than this yes it would it's so it would be a little bit higher than the again it's one of those things where we have certain size spaces to fit things into and they were bigger actually than what the program called for so you know ends up being a little bit bigger in there but we were shooting with the new building really shoots for what the goals were and were in the building program to have a meeting you'd feel like you were sealing this person down and you yeah but but the difference in when you get in a building like this is you have rooms that are so much bigger right that the proportion of the room and a house is nice right but you get in a room in a building that has a they don't actually there's nothing in the code that requires it because a code is really just looking at kind of safety issues and they determine the seven six is the is the minimum in the in the building code but we'd like to have higher we'd like to get the higher singles and the better spaces they are going to have to probably tend to have maybe  but if you could contrast the new with the renovation addition we done we have more wings right so that the building is sort of narrower it's made out of narrower sections that make a kind of you were in shape kind of thing when we go to the renovation addition because we're kind of limited with the site we really have to go in this direction in that direction which and kind of fill it out to get the area we need so it's more of a kind of square plan right so yes this dimension across is much greater in the renovation and addition scheme that it is in the new building seems go natural lighting would not be as good in the scheme as it would be in there is wouldn't be as good as you currently have or it wouldn't be as good as what you get in the in the new building s popular with the community because it meant on veterans day they did the parade right by and they could stop right there so one of the suggestions we have a dozen would have picked it up on the if you look at the exterior of the new building there was a suggestion for moving the memorial door basically doing a new memorial but putting it kind of right here on the front of the building so that that would be accessible outside  also tried to take the work spaces and squeeze as much space out of those as we could so really i mean it's if you think about what we have in the library if we expand that the children's it's got to come from someplace and so we tried to take it from a little bit from the adult services a little bit from the from the office spaces and it's really it's really it's a call as i said before you could go through this again and decide you want to put more of something else in and take something else out but we're just constrained by that by that footprint over the adult collections  something one of one is will want to speak to it's a trade off between your your children's support right now is grossly under saw as so there's a real we've heard back from the community that's one of the real goals they want is a better children's department so we're really trying to respond to that goal but we have to have a tradeoff and maybe we've got a right maybe we didn't  so you know because we're in ca more of a kind of conceptual phase in the next design phase we'd be able to go in and do some energy modeling and take a look and predict what the operating cost would be but we're just a little too early for it in this space so that's really kind of a judgment call and it's really based on the fact that a new building i know we can have the most a more efficient on below a more efficient mechanical  system in a renovation we're going to have it's probably going to be renovations and renovations additions or maybe a little bit better than you've got now but it's not going to be as good as the new construction and because the renovation addition is the biggest scheme of all it's space it's in the corridors it's in the thickness of the walls it's in all of those places just given the kind of kind of layout that we have so there are a couple spaces are a little bit bigger in the renovation addition but overall you're not getting you know forty five thousand square feet of usable space versus thirty eight the difference would you know it's it's it's going to be much closer in terms of usable space between those two schemes it's the non usable space that really goes up in the renovation  so so so actually the existing paving comes right here right here so we haven't gone any further in this direction we did propose going a little closer to the street here and that's the only difference really so all of the garden that's over here we haven't a this is really conceptual design this is not final design so i would be amazed if if if if this move for eva looked exactly like this there is definitely going to be development as it moves here so i have to say part of this is also you know is driven by the brook because the conservation commission wants us to stay back from the brook so if there's a kind of setback line that comic cuts right through there so that's that's part of the reason that we have the opportunity for that green space back there doing and we're further down the road so yeah yeah in fact it's part of the program and it's it's i think we really thinking about that as something that was here it definitely was we included that space in the building program is a little bit of asbestos but not a lot and i think there was a survey that was done at some point but to me i look at these based on my experience you very careful when you start randomly public buildings because contractors are all working with something called the prevailing wage and down not too far below the floor because you know you have the brook that runs across you can see it coming out over here in the spring sometimes next door so there are some challenges with building on the site everything that we're doing with new construction is we're not and basements are anything everything is up out of the ground because we're trying to minimize any of those issues of going down and have a basement spaces but yes it is it does if you take the warning on the side of the site is where we have  so i mean is there a way we can contact people and th