thank you frank good evening welcome to the boris lichens meaning for tuesday december sixteenth we have a new format to our agenda i'm going to read a statement and then bill if you can go into a little explanation about that so we have a new statement now with the agenda the chair reserves the right to call items on the agenda out of order if any times are listed below for items they are considered approximate times and i may be reached earlier or later than the post a times the listing of items are those reasonably anticipated by the chair which may be discussed at the meeting at least forty eight hours prior to the prior to the meeting not all items listed may in fact be discussed and other items not listed may also be brought up for discussion to the extent permitted by law so this statement is really in response to just looking at the time ye been we've had a couple discussions about this really in recent meetings by the board relative to time sensitive issues and i know that the it was correctly pointed out that we have we have listed times and each other times we've we've actually look to go go take items earlier then then then then posted and so i actually asked counsel for advice on this because i did you know the real you want to have some level folks ability to deal with these items so what has been done and recommended is a slang which to be posted publicly on the agenda prior to the meeting so that everybody is aware that the times are given are proximate times and that in this particular case we've taken the times off for the big it for all the items except for the beginning of the meeting which is of course seven o'clock there may be times however where there are hearings that are going to be coming up where those are considered to be approximate times in the end so that gives you the ability to take items a little bit earlier or later with depending upon how the how the item goes sometimes there's nothing worse than going to meeting and sitting there for three hours not knowing right you know we know the agenda and you know when we put the agenda together we know if it's a ten minute item or if it's high if it's if it's an hour and i think you can still achieve the same thing by putting that statement on there but actually put the time and say they're subject to change depending on the night so if i pull up on the website and i see estimated you know nine thirty i don't show up at seven o'clock and sit around two and a half hours because it gets expensive for input topics not reasonably anticipated by the chair forty eight hours in advance of the meeting selections update laxey o'connor's disposition of liquor license violations the bourse like the discussion on the town council r season here i just want to remind the community that toys for tots there is a donation box still at the public safety building so if you have the opportunity and he donations are greatly appreciated there  the discretionary fund is going to be making deliveries this thursday so any adults who are available to help with deliveries please contact the discretionary fund and lastly just wanted to take the opportunity to wish everyone a merry christmas happy hanukkah and happy kwanzaa happy general holidays across the board and wish everyone a happy new year also ok so our first item is waxy o'connor's disposition of liquor license violation frank f rank has provided us with some updated materials here at the two meeting had to file any reports at that time and any other days or evenings where they expect large crowds patriots games and games holidays and such at all times the i for a new employees handbook which editorial policies procedures all of their policies and procedures was included of all service this is the training that occurred on june twenty six including refresher course on responsible of all service and was also an alcohol service agreement which was signed by all the staff required for their employment because of the responsible of all service policy and also it was agreement was included in your package and again everyone was confronted we took certified finally a training was conducted on october twenty first by the new manager which meant last week would have been a lot of this would have been nice to have at the last year when we were asking did you do this and did you do that some of these are dated yesterday and today for the some of the stuff that's in here it seems to be someplace else off apparently  waxes early on it was a very busy night but since that time thursday nights are nearly as busy as the night of the staying indicated there was very few customers in the bar that night so they determined that somebody at the door was not necessary on thursday nights any longer and that skinner was put behind the bar but if a thursday night i dissipated to be a busy night you know for a holiday or something or patriots night game for thursday night they will have somebody at the door with the manager it was brought up with the manager on the petition to be a point at that time with regard to the strikes and it was discussed out at the time it was talked curse it will not be a first violation but it will be on top of the one within the last three years also that you're within your meeting minutes back in march thirteenth with regard to how the rules regulations work and how the three years works and in particular with regard to access last february i know last february jim did of age will be checked have their id checked so my question is with that policy in place and that you know the fact is that someone who w under forty was not checked have you given any further consideration to carding everybody who comes in to the restaurant where we talked about it at the last  the other comments questions were frank mckenna right so at this point now we need to start talking about the sanctions  we this is viewed as a second violation within the three year period so in our guidelines it talks about us having discretion of imposing sanctions from three to ten days there are also early closing potential there and i just wanted to come right out of the gate by suggesting that i think everybody knows i thought that five days was adequate for this type of violation but compromised to seven days in the other similar situation so i just wanted to suggest that we  discuss the seven day sanctions at this time well i disagree with you on that on the last one i thought for the second violation last time it should be ten days and i agree with this i thought i still think it should be ten days that's how i jim i think we're going to be odd man out again on this one and we did look in it frank i guess you've done a great job and i and and i agree with you that the look back is three years according to what we have in front of us but i also keep going back and we've discussed this before there is an item right before the the sanctions that says the board of selectmen has the ability to work outside of this if they feel it's a public safety issue so these are guidelines and i've said it before and i'll repeat it these are guidelines based on two steps on this on this process the first step that we had was finding of the facts and i think we didn't talk about anything other than what happened on this last go around this last violation but i think we need to talk about the other violations during this section and i'll tell you why you know this is the fourth attorney out of boston and i asked a specific question was you know is there any other violations that are pending i don't know how i worded it and we were told no there weren't and in fact the state had already sanction violations against waxes for twelve days four of them to be served and i think they i don't know if they have served i think they paid a fine as that is serving it but eight days would be held in abeyance and they would disappear after one year to know that there are no other violations so one of the first violations that they had in front of us was within that one year period so when we have town when we ask counsel and the owners are there any other violations and they say no and then to compound that on the next violation when they were in front i remember the excuse was what we couldn't say naething because it was not any b c c issue so i have very little faith that the owners are being up front when i'm lied to at one meeting and then the ends justify the means excuse at the next meeting so had i known then  that there were other violations pending and had a b c she known that we would deal with it but the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing in those eight days that were never served as far as i know and i and i can ask the question and i don't know what the answer is going to be but i'm pretty confident that's what the story was at that time so then we proceed from the a b c to over serving the situation and then we went down  several negotiated it and two minor serving so it when it waxes asked the question you know now can you do the scanner and they say it's not feasible i don't think it's feasible to have a business open if they can't figure out how to scan somebody when a kid comes in and ask for a beer or a drink or or two or three you know we the police go in you know they don't even take that where they just get served and then they walk out in you know they're in front of us but when the kid sits near an ass gets two or three and four i don't take that lightly so i put that in the category of it's a public safety issue and and lesson only can tell us how they're going to do it and not tell us that scanning everybody that comes in there is either an inconvenience or it's not practical my suggestion is to rescind the license altogether let him figure it out and let him reapply for it when they get their act together and it goes back to when you're when you're sitting at this table and i remember the attorney says right you know right raise your right hand to god's way to tell the truth an attorney says no and then the on his back i'm up the credibility is gone in my eyes so i'm going to say we send it in and i'm sure they're going to appeal it and we can deal with it at that time but i don't have any more patience for waxes and frank i do agree i did say that they've come a long way i do go in there and i believe my kids in  there but i just can't do it anymore you know that with the situationally it is and it's unfortunate because i you know was it was a nice situation it was a local pub it was a local eating establishment but i'm done with it so over everything and come to the conclusion that you should rescind a license it's because there's no i don't think it goes to that level it's the fourth issue that i'm dealing with with one company after they said they were going to card on thursdays day in david i remember that last meeting everybody said you know and i think the quote linda walsh you know take it as serious as a heart attack and everyone says great with a never going to come back and if they come back that's it you know please you know we had people come in from home to say they're the great people but i agree if they do it again that said so that was that at the same time these violations you know first selectman to say one more time that said i don't think anyone was saying one more time a day after three years when the other one falls off and that's it that's it in my book is that said and and i wish they were upfront with the a b c see it was painful to sit here knowing that there was a violation going on knowing that there were eight days they needed to serve and we necessary to assure public safety right and two times they're not carting i don't want to wait for the third time the other ones are over serving in having been a bartender so i can't tell who's drunk there or who comes in drunk and you know but i know for a fact if somebody comes in and they look the age that this kid look you ask for the id theory and if you can't get your act together to do that then you set the robot up to do it but they don't want to do that because it's practical so i know i'm not sure what strong comparing where we were last week where we gave our skip jacks seven days how was the situation any different from skip jacks as far as a threat to public safety i think skipjack response to us was a little more forward thinking on what they're going to do without the background that i have i don't have the background was good jacks of these repeated issues but he did say they've come a long way so was this something positive other there is something positive and i was hoping it would end up today that there would be a scanner because there was a realisation that how many more times it's going to happen and whether it's the bartender's fault or the manager's fault with the owners fault we've heard all of it so far you know we got rid of that they got rid of an owner to get rid of the manager another get rid of the bartender there's nothing left to get rid of the robot but they don't want to put the robot up there you know the scanner so you know i think the effort is being made it's it's definitely a serious situation but i think the effort is being made to correct the problems i think the new manager  looks to be very experienced individual who i hope will be able to reinforce even though there's been so much training here again i think it's  just something that can't be reinforced enough and having the oversight of whether it's the manager on the floor or the other bartenders to be constantly alert if the decision is made not to card everyone coming in the door then you do run the risk of being here in front of us again and you know again i'm i really think that we have an obligation to work together and to try and do what's going to prevent this from happening we need to create some type of resource that will help you know there are the bars or the restaurants out there that are successful every single time and that you know skills perhaps can be learned from them too and i go back to when we did reduce the liquor license for regulations it had talked about having a group put together that was comprised of business owners and you know members from the community and the police to come up with an approach that would be more collaborative and supportive of trying to keep these types of things from happening so you know i i believe the new manager clearly understands his marching orders from this board and from the owners and again i go to the fact that this is a second violation of this type and i'd like i'd like to your motion  i'd like to your motion made for sanctions at this point unless someone else has anything else they want to say and we have to come back and look at this and in six months anyway because we we put a condition on  think i think i think ten days is is adequate with a review in six months i think we should we should do so some testing within that six month period to a little disappointed that mr can back is not here he's the new manager and i would expect a manager to be here at a violation hearing because we want to speak directly to the manager who will be running the establishment on a day to day basis so i just really i'm really disappointed mr convex and here i'm looking at this as a second violation i mean  that's the rules that the violations roll off so because of the rules it's technically the second violation you've had a very troubled past but that's  ast but i do believe that i think a ten day suspension is warranted but i would like to also maybe suggest that in addition to the ten day suspension that from now one the right now is the way to go i think a ten day suspension is fine because because of the role was boy i'll tell you we reviewed the review the tape we probably all reviewed the tape from two thousand from the last hearing it was groundhog's day i'm tanya what you said the last week with exactly what you people said a couple years ago which is very disturbing so i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt i think ten day suspension and the use of the help of a gym wants to use the the scanner and next time mr khan back should if he's manager he should be here at at the me i want to talk to the manager nice talking to the owner and i want to talk to the person who's under who's running the place day to day so the idea is to use the scanner you do use the scanner to check every license that you ask for basically is what you're saying on fridays and saturdays it's someone stationed at the front door but on thursdays it's someone in another location walks to the scanner or where is the scanner located what happens is the scanner is behind the bar the bartender supposed to ask when i id it was massachusetts id persons thirty five years old it's fine if they get out of state license or license that they question then take it to the scanner behind the bar and i can be a military id license for my use states those types of things that can go through and the scanner is for all of the states that works for military d when it's at the front door again from nine to one thirty or one o'clock with no one under age ten can come in so even food i use on thursday nights probably won't be until nine o'clock and then i wouldn't allow anyone under the age to come in even though they may be you know if i want to come in for late night dinner so that's one of the concerns also  at so it's you know it comes down to dollars and cents but they didn't have somebody at the at the door at that time but frank if they had someone at the door in their kid walk in and they took his license they would have seen the reason to rage and not let him in and you would have passed the test that was the whole the whole reason you you flunked the test was speaking she did not ask for id but if you came in an hour earlier with a scanner going the scanner when somebody at the front of the scanner nobody under age is going to be allowed in and they feel that on thursday night what we would that somebody may come in and raise it just wants to come in for food to watch a game when you know the place empty and we don't want to lose customers you know what we're asking you to use a scanner wants to rescind your license i think would be very wise either go along with the program that's like  message to give to mr carlin and you know i did i do you this is and i said this at the last minute the minute we start telling you how to run your business is i think the reason we step into something we shouldn't be all we want to make sure work fine but i don't think it's our say to put it you know if the buyer put it at eight o'clock or seven o'clock in the scanner that's why i i don't know how to deal with it so i'm saying rescind it in i would say i don't you know there's a lot of the person who actually served dream would be a big incentive not to do it you know a lot of times that it's a punish this crime for them same extent that the ownership is penalized so that the current bar tender is penalize other than being fired he's probably employed somewhere else making the same if not more money than the other this from happening again that's just my suggestion stiff penalties by a town i went to the holder of the license than the person i serve the drink would probably stop this from happening going forward what's the what's the one thing you could have done that could have prevented this id as that that happens we're not here so you guys need to figure out how you get your bartenders and your servers to say can i see your id it's that simple you don't skinner to do that just ask a simple question and whether it's forty year old thirty year old twenty year old it's immaterial that's up to you but you got to ask the question a m my staff asked the question that's up to you guys  and at the time i voted against that because they said it's too early because they just had a violation let's give it some time in the board before that i would like that sign removed there's been a lot of complaints about it and i think to put that side to grab more traffic off a ninety five with a new manager and all of this stuff going on and i have to be at board feels if it's overstepping that's all we're here to talk about tonight but i think that's in the consideration as well you mean taking down the same permanently are just taking down temporarily because that i mean they've paid in any establishment that applies to the state for the for those signs they pay for their pointed ends and it's very expensive i used to be ten times no i don't know what it is now but years ago it was and i mean it's pretty have to have to and the reason we ok that was because we tried to be supportive of the business we try to work with you to be supportive and we did we did get some concerned about it so yes suggestion to have it taken down permanently by taken down just temporarily to see how things go until they start carving people properly i don't know what it's going to take six months from now when the manager comes in and it's a success story or you know five months when there's another violation and we say we're glad we did i don't know at this point i don't know i think we have to continue to be supportive of the business there you know again they're pleading their case in front of us that they are working to make things correct we have to give them the opportunity to do that i think we should give them the opportunity to do that we don't have to obviously but i think we we should support the business and  you know i don't personally i'm not i don't have the appetite for doing anything to remove that sign because i just don't i just don't see it connected to what we're trying to deal with here which is i think you know a huge education process basically obviously resulting in a potentially bad public safety situation for us so again i think we need to move forward put some faith into the new manager's approaches and if it works they won't be in front of us again i just had a question  know you were involved in the process of getting the sign up there is there any regulations in regard by the state in regard to keeping the sign up i mean can you keep the sign until like you have violations something to know if there's sure so i'm saying like does the state say you can have the sign as long as the town the road commission's approve it you can have the sign however if there's a violation of the sign we you i'm not sure that i have a clear answer on that but i'm going to go on instinct a little bit that the sign was was was permitted by you board or commissioners of the control side based on a criteria that may range from safety to appearance so they had a hearing and yes you you approved it on that basis if there's a connection between the sign the location of the sign the use of the sign the purpose of the sign and your your active discipline or just position well that you know that there is a nexus there otherwise my recommendation would be to if action of this against the side makes sense to hold a hearing relative to the sign of whether or not the psych you mean effective tool in the discipline a disposition of the case so unfortunately i think to do it right would be to hold a hearing in your capacity as you know the is second violation we should because of because of the history we should do the math within our guidelines you know would be ten days we're going to be back here within six months  then the motion because i think ten days is his warranted not seven day people to just to be clear for the record that the weekend's meeting friday or saturday night so they can be turned sporadic days down and one year within the next sixty three one and sixty days from what's given that we're asking for an additional weekend day in three additional days that we can give them till the end of february i'll give him or you just for consistency and we had not violations and it's been sixty days just like everybody else i think it's closer to seventy days right those fourteen left in december so it's seventy seven four days now i think we should stay away from everybody else within sixty days within sixty days i know but i think everybody else we also did seven days for the same violations and learned that this was it but this is a second  said you name days before we actually come out right we'll be meeting for another two weeks but i guess my point was if you want to name the days now then we could vote on it now and then just say the aggravation of an extra meeting the paperwork you want to come back  are friday or saturday within sixty days we'll you know we don't really have to approve the actual day to week we just have to approve ten days three days being friday friday or i'm very helpful only to close the loop and that my understanding is that there's been a request to modify the dates that that were imposed and that was the one case if you recall where there was a notice  appeal and there was no suggestion from renaissance on the dates so we picked the dates that were consistent with one of the other her license holders subsequently with heard from renaissance that  under the guise of asking her opinion about some she has worked with at least three of the town councils that we're considering but really the reason i wanted to her to come here is because as we said we don't want your opinion  i just wanted to acknowledge that tonight is the last elections meaning that sandra will be working for the town of foxborough and we know that if we told you that you wouldn't you would never give up right so  but you would have been screaming the whole way and we didn't want to hear that you know probably crying so probably just want to take a minute to acknowledge sandra service to the town almost thirty years she started off with a tooth brush in the bathroom that's just want to say how much we appreciate everything that you've done for the town and here thank you again and you'll be missed thank you i'm going to miss you all you know the good the bad and the ugly  for eighteen years and then in the selectmen zone and every time i went through the list i was adding another person so i'm like oh that not a good idea i'll probably forget somebody you know it's been challenging at times it's been fun it times i've made great associations through the years wonderful friends between the businesses and the citizens that's been my true passion and true love i learned thirty years ago from a very wise man in the board of health when we had no health agent it was just me you know he always said to me we're here to educate not to regulate you know when that doesn't happen you're not doing your job san so you know that was my start that that's how i got my feet wet and you know through the years i think i've grown i've had the privilege of working with many attorneys  gave me the answer he quoted the law reads like you're writing it down so that you know when the issue comes up you're going to no it's the law is so you know i've been educated a lot through the years it's been a joy it's just been a total joy i love my job it's time i'm you know proud of i'm proud of deb i'm proud of deb i can't tell you how i feel about working with her and i know this town it's still my town i raised my children here i'm raising a grandchild here it means more to meet my friends are here you know joining the garden club and i'm excited about that and you know i'm kind of thinking about working with our restaurants and all of our liquor license holders to bring back their organization i think it's a place i could be useful and helpful so i'm not going away but it's time it's really time and i thank you all i thank you all i think of all the board members i've worked with through the years i mean birthday lanie calling me on the phone and saying you know give me the history and tony la chapelle you know with you know where everybody's buried and everything's barrie you know tell me the background so you know it's been it's been an honor a true honor and i thank you all because you know you come here every every tuesday night or it used to be every tuesday now it's every other tuesday and i know that there's a lot that goes on in between i see that i know that i get the phone calls i hear the questions i hear the comments and i applaud you i applaud you for you know even if your opinions are totally the opposite i applaud you for giving you time to do this for a town that i love and will continue to lie don't call my home i have no plans on leaving so i thank you all i thank you for the flowers  staff at the hot town hall are the best and they're the best i hope they're value through the years i hope you see in them what i see in them you know not just the interaction that i watch every day at least his office with the taxpayers that come in and there are a lot you know it's not easy it's not easy it's hard not to take it personally and i understand they're not upset with us and i watch how they they just give their all and give their best and i hope that you see and what i say and you know i think police for my little dancing every day in the past couple weeks and yeah you know  dev's been like here and there and everywhere and off the walls and i love you from the bottom of my heart you're the best thing that's ever happened to us we know you were you work harder than anybody i know i've never met anybody work with a work ethic like that pads and i hope you'll take advantage of that but not too much to give her a little bit a break right now she's going to be alone it's going to be hard so i think you all  so i had one question for bill before we get going to bill when i put this together and correct me if i'm wrong but on the law firm of a couple mine page that i actually went through and there was a source of self reporting is or is that what they reported no i just know that through experience of personal experience that they're probably one of the most they probably have represent the most of the greatest number of communities in the commonwealth i think they have got the greatest number of  so i just wanted to give the public some information about what we're actually considering in the r f p that went out and this is some of the information that we asked to be provided with and have received you know identifying the name of who will be the town council for foxborough who will be their backup counsel they've attached resumes for all of their attorneys who we could work  with they have provided information on minimum bar admission requirements all the municipalities that they've represented their experience with the law in general how accessible they are what they would do for back up giving details on their billing proposals and how they will deliver cost effective client services talked about you know fees and expenses in detail given us examples of their invoicing approaches resumes landmark cases that they've litigated and just a general copy of the billing statement so we can see how that works john has actually provided us with a grid that we had the opportunity to use just to organize the information for review and the last time we  we talked about coming back with what each of us thought would be our top three that we would be interested in interviewing as a next step so i would just add that you know in the interim so anyone would like to start went back through the couple minutes page and and checked and i am right that is you know there's a lot of ones and twos in the prime return if they were go more of attorneys that have the ability to counsel that have the ability to counsel rather than take a select men's direction and just run with it i was at a hearing representing  client last night where it's going to come down to one board suing the other board in the same time and it was so avoidable if the attorney had the ability to put the two together and explain it from a legal sense but from a practical sense and then sprinkle it with the legal in that situation where so much conflict and different things going on those personal skills in the ability to look past the select been to what the issue was and then back to the selectmen as big a lot of these firms had applied last time as well so we had it was interesting if you look at the billing rates this year to what they did a couple of years ago they've all gone up think there were there were ones that i eliminated the first time around a couple years ago and i did the same thing for the same reasons mr loosens the loose and firm i felt that way i just don't like the idea of like a firm like that dealing with dealing with us for trainee is i was impressed by them but most of them a couple men and page former  employees my number one choice was murphy has said to me and they were my number two choice the last time around but was interesting when i was reading the the information this time i'm looking it with eyes of an experienced selectman for two and a half years and i really had an idea of what i was looking for and i just found that murphy has said to me and think it just felt that they were exactly what we need in regard to like depth experience they they listed the things that they had been working on it at the town's development at malls what legislation signed by law was insurance coverage in policies to fix public lands for the uses i mean it's just everything that we seem to be dealing with with dealt with the past we're dealing with we probably will be dealing with in the future that was my so that's the one i really like i mean if i had to do i have to do i have to include two more because surprised george williams i felt that they represented the town very well in the past paul duran's as has been a super lawyer for at least eleven years that's nominated by their his peers as one of the best in this area of law in the state so he brings a wealth of experience they were very successful in litigation for the town and i thought really gave a lot to the town at a time that we were going through difficult situations they were very so very helpful during the casino process and so they were my number one choice a close second is murphy has he to me and lane and i think their experience they represent towns that are have extensive development norwood and i have been very impressed by david lucas work for the town so very close second on murphy has he to me in my hand for me and my last choice was losing castello two further investigation on their on their work and then move to set up the hearings interviews if you will in january that we would we made a special day for the twenty seven twenty seventh to sort of those dates functions but right now the days december twenty fourth twenty fifth and twenty sixth which is wednesday thursday friday january fifth and sixth which is monday tuesday generally twelfth and thirteenth which is a monday tuesday january nineteenth which is a monday and february sixth and seventh which is a friday saturday ok so we have a list of warrant articles that have been added to can remember if they were like two or three but one of them was going to be pretty at least three of them one would be the sign the sign bill the signs on here yeah they had a couple of others so i guess for starters are there any additional topics anyone wants to put out there bill have you been contacted by waters in they were talking about that i think you should go the meetings they were talking about that one meeting and i suggested that they notify you if they were thinking of doing a war a night it will just to get on the list  that so as we talk well we don't know what number one is but as we talk about these can you talk about who on the board can work attention to finding out more information about these for example the additional liquor licenses jenny i know that you have done some initial legwork on that with the planning board could you pursue that we write yeah i know good start you know the next one the personal wage by law classification review is that something that you think will be ready i do we are meeting when's right after your meeting we're meeting january seventh and because the steelworkers have organized we now have so few people under the bylaws so the the time we're going to have fewer titles we're going to come up with a compensation plan for that and then we have some really low hanging fruit like some general changes that can be made pretty easily and as far as bylaws go  and then the more media things we've sort of talked about every member on the wage committee taking an item for example one of those would be the tuition policy that needs some tweaking or a lot of things that were just title changes town manager versus person a wage board versus each our director those so we have some really we can definitely have some substantial changes for that and then the bigger things i think the committee members are going to dig deeper and to take on a piece of that and knowing that at con will want an opportunity to really look at this closely because it's the first time it's been changed in a long time i think will be important to coordinate with them to make sure that they have adequate notice and we have tom freeman on our on great wage board so he's actually going to take an active role so he'll be sort of the conduit between the two groups but would love to have a member of the bo all right so planning board articles will need to hear more from gary do you remember with the playing board articles that you were paying his budge attention as we were  meeting anyone in particular interested in planning board articles and i don't mind doing that but if it's there if it's there if they're sponsoring it and we need to tack on a time it's like you know we don't usually want you to know you're right updates and work with sharon on that it was the first step is i want to make sure that that last group of revisions have made it to the attorney for review so that we can make sure that we do any additional tweaking that needs to happen separate from the discussion around digital but billboards because that will be the focus of the next that's what we can   home number of things that as they looked at it needed work on so i'm not sure if who the chief would work with now with sandra there would be kids so then there's the question about amending the legislation of the sewer district and yeah i mean i don't i don't know i know they talked about it but you know that would be s feeling is it's a big task between now and april to do wrap it up to get on to may town meeting you know is it one is it ten is it meetings last time you talked about meeting with the planning board and getting their input on the business communities the things like that i just don't underestimate the time yeah that's why it's not it's not set in stone that we would have anything i mean we have a mechanism you know that stuff it's just a matter of  checking with the planning board and and we talk about asking you know talked about providing like a license for a certain note is they is they call it you know specific like ten mins fielded they had they just actually could just got their licenses by the legislation and it's for specific areas and so that's the things that we were going to talk but the mechanism is easy it's just you know it's just what you want to do what you know this the right time to do it you know and i think also that you know why are we doing it in the right reza taishan to get by in affright that's when i mean when one of the things we've always talked about was development of the downtown area with the idea as you and the playing board has been thinking about it right so that because things were going to they raise that it was more important to have the sewer available to that property than it was to have a liquor license right so desirable you know i just i think it's good planning to have think i think maybe more it might help if we had a joint meeting with the planning board or least a couple of the heads get together here because they've i mean they're there again reaching out for the master plan and you know the different thoughts of you know that they did they talk about this on things that we've been working on our the executive assistant narrowing down the applications we received over three hundred three hundred three to be exact and we got that down to about a list of thirty that we both called into and began phone interviews and we're now in the face to face interview stage we do hope you know sandra leaves on january second we do hope to have someone in place maybe by early february we're looking to keep that it's been you know it's tough it's tough to leave somebody with all of that institutional knowledge walk away and you know try to fill it and we know that debt is going to be a great resource over the next month while we are sort of shot short staffed we're also working on working with randy on a financial analyst project manager position that he posted on he's been so busy with budget that i haven't really had the resume review but will be doing that soon and  i'm just working on assessing where we're at with things cleaning up some policies and creating some procedures were hoping for twenty fifteen every month to roll out a different training with employees worked really hard to poll the workers comp and reporting and risk management piece together and come up with a guide that school and town people have all agreed to you know i'm going to roll out some training and then after the week at the month after that in february i think we're going to be working on some f m l a training with department heads at december's department head meeting besides the ugly sweater contest we had a representative from our e p come out and do sort of a an overview with employees and we actually me in the housing authority i know you were there that position was vision actually it's not it's not me that can do that i took it as well had they have that they have a my understanding is that they were working or they had a candidate in mind  is the first two are what we spoke about earlier in regard to the change in suspension dates i move that the bus life been approved the change of a suspension date from january second two thousand and fifteen to productions they had been issued a license far as september twenty eighth two thousand and fourteen show which wound up being canceled and they're asking if it's possible to transfer the fifty dollars fee from that cancelled a vent to the new one that they applied far that we had already proved on december thirty first so i move that the bush like and approved the request by bay colony productions to transfer a license fee of fifty bill what exactly are these fees for me is this is for administrative work that took place a town hall to prepare for this event and so that the work may have been put in but because it was canceled that doesn't eliminate the work the town hall did prepare for  was wondering if they've already you know fifty dollars is a lot of just wanting if they burn through the purpose of the cancer that i don't really know what was because when you apply for this and this is back in september i'm sure tom hall had to do something to prepare for or did it sit on a desk knowing it was cancelled and nothing was done you the next is a letter of resignation i dislike men unfortunately i must resign from the conservation commission in the or recreation board as of december eighth two thousand and fourteen because i will be living in florida for the next five months of the next is a reappointment i move that the boy selectman approved the reappointment of frederick grossmith to the agricultural commission for term expiring december fourteenth two thousand and seventeen  and the next is a resignation letter which i can't read because it's a really bad copy but anyway it's the gist of it is called to my is required retiring from the favor the next is the final list of license reno also i will read the categories automatic amusements one automatic amusement three common victual licenses non alcohol restaurants two common victual licenses all alcohol licensed restaurants one in holder one restaurant seven day all alcohol license five a three on zero five fo ur seven day entertainment licenses one sunday entertainment three classic class two ata licenses and one limousine your little was lucky pages of licensing that with these with the final ones that the paperwork was in the ok so i was five of them in front of us but in total is forty three yeah ok and everyone on these lists are all up to date with all fees and yet