would help i don't microphone it's a big room and that microphone records from where the new input thank you next is requires consideration of the motive of the persecutors and that's something that typically hernandez and her husband mr moran were national police officers in el salvador they testified regarding the deaths of four colleagues on one occasion for example two officers responded to a communication regarding the kidnapping were illegal confinement that they were gang members that were kicking at the wall i'm certainly a frightening incident but she didn't see anybody no gang paraphernalia was left behind no gang signs what's the evidence encountered gang members outside their home they heard these gang members chamber around and same question these are the men who were in the bushes and it's the same issue they were and i think they're obscured by a tree or explained that police act differently than ordinary civilians and this is hard to articulate and i think she explained that new police officers are honest that's how they behave that's how they act in public always difficult to articulate i do understand where she's coming on and i think she's right law enforcement professionals act with a high degree of professionalism and integrity both on the job and off the job and i think this is something you can you can discern and enjoy when you all this considered in the larger context of gangs targeting police officers in el salvador demonstrates a nexus that is persecution on account of a protect these incidents that occurred and also rise to the level of past persecution now i understand typically threats are not sufficient but this court has stated that an example of persecution that does not involve actual physical contact is a credible threat conflict grave physical as in pointing a gun at a person's head and going to trigger unbeknownst to the business the incidents here i think get us to this level in particular what we need to consider these cumulatively the incident where the gun was cocked gets us close i know the trigger wasn't told here i don't i know we don't know where the gun was pointed but i don't think we need to draw a line in the sand at the trigger being polled and  nando's will be recognised as a police officer again this is a small could actually recognised by her appearance photos have been taken she recognised by reputation and now she explained your reputation as a police officer isn't something that just disappears overnight to any evidence of photos were taken of her by gang members not in the record but just her testimony as are on able or unwilling to return to work bell themselves of the protection of well salvador as mr moran explained the government might be trying to stop the gangs but it's on able to protect the rate of violence is too high there are unable to me please the card counting prayer for the attorney general in this case the agency reasonably ruled that mr hernandez diaz had failed to show past persecution on account of a protected ground and a well founded fear of persecutors who the salvadoran government was unable or unwilling to control st with regards to past persecution and the agency reasonably found that the three vague incidents ms hernandez diaz experienced were not sufficient to rise to the extreme level of past persecution this court has been clear that it is a rare circumstance in which threats alone can rise to the level of past persecution and there is nothing about these threats that would rise to that level mr hernandez diaz didn't hear any of the threats directly she didn't read any of them directly the closest thing that came to hearing a threat was a neighbors relayed a rumor going she experienced someone kicking the wall of her home and then the person went away she seems that the person was trying to get into her house but it doesn't seem that they tried very hard if all they tried to do was kick the wall for a while and then  leave the rd incident in which she heard a gun being cocked and bushes near her home is certainly concerning but as petitioner just conceded we don't know where the gun was pointed we don't know who had it we're not sure that the incident was even aimed at ms hernandez diaz and her family and so while the incidents were undoubtedly frightening they do not rise to the extreme level of past person moreover with respect to nexus for the past persecution petitioners do not clearly challenge the determination in this regard before this court they recite facts and mentioned i just decision but they don't ever raise a clear argument about why the record compels the contrary conclusion and so they have waived that argument here even if they had not done so and assuming that the social groups are able ms hernandez diaz and her husband both credibly testified that the unknown individuals who were threatening them believed that they had reported gang activity to the police given the location of their house in the neighborhood and that that is why they were targeting them for harm mr hernandez diaz and mr moran spahn his home is apparently at the entrance to their neighborhood and so they were aware of people coming and going from the neighborhood and based on the location of their house the gang believed that they were informing the police about their activities not because they were also police officers but because of where their house was located and the location of their house is obviously not a protected ground and that i j was entitled to rely on their credible testimony about why these things were happening finally with respect to well founded fear the immigration judge ruled that mr hernandez diaz had not shown that the salvadoran police would be unable or unwilling to protect her petitioners did not raise that issue before the board on their appeal and so they have failed to exhausted a statutory the nd incident of the shot in the air even though mr and his d s didn't call to report it and she did not report the rd incident of the man in the bushes so every time she requested assistance the police came and one time when she didn't even request assistance the police d has also reported that she as a police officer responded to gang incidents so we know that at least the national police force in that local area was actively responding to gang activity and doing the best they could no police force in the world is perfect but the police were responding to the gangs there's also evidence in the record referenced by the i j a referring to aggressive policing tactics and charges filed against corrupt officers officers accused of wrongdoing and so we know that the situation in el salvador is far from perfect but the salvadoran government is doing is taking active concrete steps to come back again activity but only branscum st as to nexus these threats need to be considered cumulatively and in their context the larger context here is that the gangs are targeting police officers and that needs to be considered when thinking of and while the salvadoran government may be trying their hardest to fight these gangs they're not succeeding police officers contain killed others continue to be killed by these gangs they need help but it but they're not successful right now in