right good evening my name is maureen jones and i live it forty nine east mcmurry road my comment is in reading through last meeting now the police are going to monitor and have their initiative for more th safety my concern with it is the fact that they will not issue tickets unless they succeed eleven miles per hour having lived mcmurry now for sixteen years that's like indiana apples freeway off there means they have they're going forty six and they believe me they see forty six on honest mcmurry so that is my only concern and comment i would like you know i would hope that they would reach you know look into that again i agree with you townships in the areas that predate storm water management and it's been the township's position that to the extent that we can and that we would assist people with them  many solutions that i think this what you have in front of you tonight is a perfect example of where you have a problem on a private piece of property but it could not be solved if in fact there is no partnership with the and this picture is that you can begin to appreciate that these homes sit down in the natural course for the water to flow is towards the back of those homes so as a result of that you have this kind of discharge the water so what is intended is to create a way to capture the water and take it towards the street before it gets the people's back yards and to be able to accomplish that you've got to be able to get the water into the storm sewers and right now this this what you're looking at is right at one hundred two and down lower here are these catch basin so what we would propose to do is  try to establish a set of criteria for when we would consider getting involved and i think this particular problem needs a lot of this criteria in that it affects more than one property it's a chronic problem meaning  actually and i don't know that it's a lot more in terms of the membership i think someone got to the point where they said that you know we have this work here bill a ship we need to form who by the terms of  critical emergency response program so what you see in front of you isn't necessarily what what is a standard called a sack but we believe for the purposes of our ordinance that it constitutes one and the ordinance requires that the  justification for wanting to do this your alternative to get back to a road is too greedy in the areas that had better steeper than twenty five percent so all that dark area that you see there is actually twenty five percent or are greater in slope so it would not make sense to come down off of that hill with a roadway i think it would create a problem for the township just in terms of maintaining it in addition it would involve a lot more grading the other thing about this is this plane already has access from different locations and you know on that basis we feel comfortable with recommending the council to a departure and really what we do is we have two items on the agenda one is the modification the the next is really the the conservation residential plans for for him with a seven we have a power point that it might be helpful to go through the power point first in regard to really how we can explain the whole process and actually the modification and if it's at all possible we go through that modification and you know vote separately in regard to  world this is the high point of the site so the high point then comes down to this part of the property line we do have a drainage ways in a series of what winds in the existing sanitary sewer also flows down to we're seeing a trail and then also itself the orange color is the actual watts the the green color is open space within this plan we have a total seven point nine acres of of open space when you take out storm water detention were seven point associated with the plane when we look at the ready plan the site rises along all the way through here and then once again you can see that in the loop area in the long area will take place in this s there's a value to the community  subdivision of the property as you'll recall there was a traffic study done that indicated there was a necessity for the turn and counsel agreed can break that out but before we do that i do want to prove to your attention and i didn't that was discovered after the initial review by the planning commission that has to do township standards regarding parking spaces after if will prove whether the planning commission it was discovered that the parking spaces in the enclosed area that will be aware that when they lease they signed a lease for their property but the fact the matter is the only way to get relief from this requirement is to a very soon so whatever action council chooses to take the night it needs to be paul minor with water senior living thank you very much for having us this evening we have striped these stalls at name eighteen which is and which is consistent with the way we have straight our stalls and all of our other communities we've never run into a situation like this before this surface stalls have been straight for the benefit of the public at ten by twenty so we don't have any issue for gas parking outside of the building inside we're at nine by eighteen we have looked at trying to accommodate the code requirements of either ten by twenty or nine by eighteen with angled spaces up to a certain degree that would be permitted by code and in neither situation does it work for a variety of reasons there angled spacing creates a very awkward turning movement for somebody to drive it in then to try to back out going against the grain is problematic number one number two to accommodate the ten by twenty requirement would would have us expand the footprint of the building which we then end up crossing over the setback lines and we also then make the building even or make it bigger so we've never had an issue with the parking from a practical standpoint maybe eighteen and by eighteen is actually a very generous dimension many shopping centers are straight to eight or eight a half by eighteen so we've never had an issue with it in question the parkers in this building would be a combination of our residents living in the independent living side as well look for in terms of the below grade parking for independent living so we have named the road passionately ninety independent living units we have roughly eighty six stalls below grade straped as it is we try to keep that ratio at one to one so if we dip significantly below that we actually from our perspective create a bit more of a marketing challenge for us relative to what we try to pursue for independen this again thank you for taking the time to review our application for the project as we stated here at the outset our goal is to seek your approval for this project subject to variance that we will be required to pursue from our perspective your approval is important to us for us time is of the assonance we are hoping to get ourselves in the ground yet this wall and to be able to go into a zone in hearing board meeting with your approval would allow us to continue on with that path so we would we would appreciate that consideration  i have grant sharing from p v engineers to help us walk through presentation of how we are in compliance with the code and we are here to answer questions as we arise as result answers that i'm going to turn it lane approximately three point seven acres in size right now in the believe it was earlier this year we were before council for conditional use which we were coming for group living facility b and then also the four story we received that approval but i wanted to just reiterate that with the site plan that was submitted we still comply with those requirements specifically eighteen in addition to that setback the four story has to be set back twenty feet from the third story for sawed one along a right of way so both on for our lane and valid road that setback applies that goes down to a access to the underground garage at the underground garage location there will be a dumpster how this function right now is that any trash within the disposed of within the building is collected in that underground parking garage and then during trash days that is wheeled out to this path so those dumpsters will only be out there during trash collection we have also extended the driveway in this location to a com the garbage trucks as well as the fire truck we received the dimensional image from the far company and actually ran auto turn to make sure that the radius is work there for the truck to turn around so the fire company does have access to the building on four sides they have reviewed it i have not seen fishel letter but i do not believe that there are any issues with access to the building that they would have with landscaping sticking to this area here because of the access to the garage and the dumpster that would be located here we do have landscaping that would scream that from valley road there is also landscaping throughout the parking area there is new trees that will be located along for our lane and past meetings it was what's a long road is an eight foot sidewalk everything else would be five feet there is a connection to the adjacent property along as well as a connection to friar lane township staff has been very helpful in making that connection  through more than for that we're also providing a connection to the adjacent property here there will be stairs and that will potentially connect into a future sidewalk if that ever does occur that courtyard space which is one of our big amenities within the development site wise is located along valley brook and what we're going to do is provide a interesting place that essentially pleasing for you are the people can  relax enjoy the outside right now which program the interior of the building is a lobby space in the center so that would be identified with decorative paving and that comes down to a staircase there would also be a ramp connection for a v h s ability on the left and we would have outdoor seating that would relate to a dining area in this portion of the building so that people can eat outdoors on the right side it is more of just the sitting relaxing area because there is a so on and wellness center located on th know you should know we are there for this is storm water there are three storm water management facilities the first is located in the parking area the second is located next to the entrance to the garage and the third is located along route of brook road all of that will discharge soon existing on valley that as far as the static of the building this is it you from about river road so what we're trying to accomplish here is releasing the building multiple types of materials multiple types of colors t so what we're doing is this this level here is under the largely underground parking and what we're doing is activating this front portion of that garage the garage building is measured from the park primary entrance the primary entrance is located here we were actually done at this point so we can open up for questions this is just an overall bird's eye perspective of what the building would look like in the context of the site everything that's along here what's behind this is the front portion would be restaurant lounge wellness area so lawn behind that behind that  was that the underground garage was not going to be activated we were going to bury a portion of it we did not think that that was something that would benefit us or the township what we're trying to do is activate that streetscape when we look at the definition of a story anything that's buried more than fifty percent is not considered a story so rather than just leaving a garage space we figure we try and add something that would create if there was additional space within that garage you know because we still have the support columns in those locations we have we have the architect right now is working when we came through this first the architects put together conceptual plans as they begin to develop they found that they needed this particular column spacing structurally to make the building work so that's how the parking spaces came in to be that s that this is a sloped site from front to back there's a high point and it goes to a low point so unless we were to fill a long valley of rock and bury that it would be disconnected from the street what we're trying to do is make sure we cut away that grade which exposes that garage basement whatever you want to call it first level it exposes that so what namely just tax income you know the it would take sixty houses i calculated to make up for the income that this is going to provide to the township as well as are using private money to improve public you know they're to add that turn lane on fire lane my biggest problem is frankly when i vote for something it's based on fact not my pinion the so if you probably more landscaping next to me but the but anyways i support it and i think it would be great for the tax revenue as well as doing improvements for the public with private money  the initial consideration of four thousand seven hundred fifty dollars per acre plus eighteen percent royalties so the if in fact we were to go to the lease i would result in a lump sum and issue along from pavement of three hundred thirteen thousand five you that your audit is it is clean and there are new findings in a similar fashion you have a letter from the department of labor and industry who audits or building department today sure that we are properly implementing the last year where we got rid of the white guys were cutting grass because they always cut late when it was really high they caught it and then just leave the glass grass clippings laying on the ground and it looks terrible and that's exactly what they did