hi i'm piggy lures and this is the feminist media review brought to you live at five twenty five the second monday of each month on channel seven cimi this is a live call in show and the phone number is eight six t three nine six six i'm going to talk today mostly about the whole hash tag me to all of the men in power who are sort of finally getting out of it as to what's been going on for years and years and years and not just in hollywood but everywhere and it's interesting to look at a whole lot of things but see for one so i  someone who grew up in the fifty's in the sixty's i graduated high school in one nine hundred sixty three when i was in high school there was a very very strong double standard there still is but we had some illusions  that that that was a way of bed but when i was in high school and the girls who were suspected of being sexual were pretty severely punished and looked at pretty poorly and i learned a lot because i used to hang out with a couple of boys and those boys would talk about the girls and they would talk about the girls they wanted and usually couldn't get and what i did notice very quickly was if they did get somewhere with these with the girls they desired they quickly turned into horrible tramps so this was a pretty good lesson to me what to do around men and what what they would be like i hang out with those guys because i would sneak out and go go go out in a car with them and then we would just hang out not too far from my my house but it was it was a  religion cation dying out with these two guys who were my age but were not you know were not guys that i was dating with guys that i knew and i got to hear a lot of what they thought about women and that was a good education  i was in enough but so then we supposedly had sort of a sexual revolution in the sixty's with the hippies and you know sex became less  more open somewhat for your but really putting much on on male terms it is still it was an improvement for women over the fifty's where you know you just weren't supposed to be sexual at all so at least it was like it was kind of ok for women to be sexual but then it was like women were supposed to be sexual for everyone and that whatever you know whenever men wanted it and that it became more of a like you must be sexual so you know it rarely has been on women's terms and then when the one movement that ever really tried to look at sexuality from the point of view of females was a lesbian separatist having a lesbian feminist and of course those are the most reviled people  in the political sphere these days because because that's not something patriarchy and a lot of men want to put up with but that was the only group that ever said you know what would a sexuality that was female centered instead of phallic lee centered be like and how would that be different and how might that be a better thing but we kind of lost that battle we lost that battle a lot because pornography really took over and that's a case of where the you know pornography was always there but the internet has really made it tremendously more intense and more available so that your average eleven year old boy is getting his sex education from the internet and from pornography on the internet and pornography i think a lot of people think it's like you know naked women and pictures of sex which is and is it's a lot worse than that most pornography now in the pornography most sought after is what's called gonzo pornography and it's very much about being views of to women and even the pornographers have gotten to the point where they don't know what to do next because they done all kinds of of really nasty stuff to women torture hanging them we even had snuff indios where women were killed on video and they're hard finding it hard to find out more to do  keep keep up this what is really an addiction i always like what susan griffin said she said you know erotic desire is something that can be satiated but pornography is more like addiction you need it always has to be more and weirder and more intense too you know and to keep the audience so so pornography is everywhere and i'm hoping that will get to show a little bit of gail dines if we can deal with the technical parts of it yes and what she has to say so what we've got now is really the gross is kind of pornography you know wanting to understand about sexuality is fairly normal thing but that is not what pornography is the pornography that is going on is really vile and woman hating and has been for a long time and as people like entered dorchen and catherine recanting have pointed out pornography isn't pornography hurts women not only because of of the message it puts out of being so you know abusive to women but because actual women involved in it have you know and have a very unpleasant jobs for the most part and they're not listen to and they are abused in that so that's that's one part of what's going on i think that's a part that has made or that has helped i mean a car entire culture less empathetic it is certainly done a real number on male sexuality with young women reporting that you know a to a therapist that you know that they're expected to do the kinds of things that their boyfriends see in porn and they're not that into it but the men expected there was one woman i think i may have told the story already of this one who she made a film about women's breasts because she knew a young couple who were engaged and the man confided her and said i really love her and everything but she had she just didn't have very great breast and this woman thought her breasts are fine they're just you know and she realized that so many men didn't even know what breasts look like except for pornography where they tend to be airbrushed or pumped up or silicon so she made a film just about just a breast too to you know sort of try to bring back the idea but it's porn it's really taken over and  resulted in things like women having label surgery to be smaller and tighter and and in everybody feeling that they have to be waxed and not have hair and it's you know it's really a pretty gross thing but that's one thing and that kind of sets up everybody to be more accepting of some of the worst stuff but what has been coming out is the way men in power use it to abuse women to rape women to abuse them to sexually assault them and it's you know harvey weinstein is that is the name that we've heard most often we've also heard of kevin spacey and it's interesting and one of the the interesting thing to me about the kevin spacey case is that when a young man said this about kevin spacey he was even mediately believed to take seems to take thirty or forty women to accuse a man before they are believed  t it's not just hollywood this goes on everywhere and has for a long time and it's not new in hollywood some people of posted on facebook and one of the things that has come out is maureen o'hara back in the forty's nine hundred forty five talked about her unwillingness to give in to the casting couch and the sexual requirements of some of the directors and producers in the movie said she wanted to be in and she lost the roles because of it but she wasn't having it and she spoke out about it but it didn't make any difference we certainly had a need a hill back in the eight s who unfortunately had to deal with an entire panel of all men when she discussed who clarence thomas was and what he had done to her and sexually harassing her and you know she wasn't really believed by that group of you know all these great colleagues from the senate they're so collegial they just love each other you know they're supposedly on opposite sides sometimes but really they're a boys club and they certainly acted like a boys club around the need a hill so clarence thomas has been on the court to the detriment of the court and to the detriment of our judiciary i would say and none of that is getting any better now we have a sexual a self confessed sexual assault or as the president and it kind of goes with him hanging out as he did this week with do tar in the philippines and he just loves to tart day who has been shooting his own people and that is how he's just dealt with the drug problem by having a death squad go around and shoot these people on the street we often in this country talk about you know we don't tolerate with p people who kill their own people but we've got down trump having a bromance with a singing songs to each other just loving each other up in their alpha male supposin alpha male  what i don't even know what to call it in their alpha male domination fantasy delusions so and it goes these all go together as does the whole instance of the other thing that's been in the news has been tremendous horrible shootings most fagan over fifty people kill over five hundred people injured and then a bunch of people twenty two people killed in a church during a church service and we always know when they say the shooter and they don't say muslim or black we always know it's a white male because they don't say when they don't say you know it's a white male because you know if it was a muslim you know if it was a black man you know it's just about never a woman so you know when they don't say that it's white man because we don't want to talk about how how messed up white men are and white men are really really messed up they are the ones that carry out all these massacres they are it is it is almost always  them and and in the cases of sexual assault well that that crosses the color lines bit more but there's a hell of a lot of white men out there doing this i mean there was bill cosby and it's interesting that the persona of these assaulters you know well in the persona and bill cause me was like mr dad you know mr the really good dad i always found bill cosby rather obnoxious because of his his watching him and t v was always pushing the idea that there was nothing wrong with capital punishment there's nothing wrong with physical punishment for children which i don't really think is a good idea but you know he was always seen as you know mr dad and how do we find out that he had been sexually assaulting using drugs at least forty women over the have a problem particularly with lesbian comedian said he wanted too except his power over him because that is what this is about with these men in power is it is it is it's it's about sex sort of but it's about  serting you know who they are i'm so powerful i can you know i can make you or break you or give you a role or not give you a role or i can be louie c k and talk about how groovy i am with  just thrill women you know i'm a lesbian so i'm not very interested in sex with men at all but a lot of women are it's not that they don't want to sex with men but i don't think there's very many women who ever thought that having a man they didn't even know with that is stick was a really thrilling or exciting and interesting come on i don't think that happens in fact i was in college and in the university of tampa and my very first date there i was just walking around the campus and the next thing i know i'm standing next to a guy with his dick out and my reaction to that was get the hell away from me and i never had anything to do with that i got away from him and i never had anything to do with that guy and i just couldn't believe it once when i worked in the  are you want to i had to take over for one of the men who was doing the work downstairs and some of the work that was done in or you were into was men would go on cruising sites so that the men who work there would go on cruising sites so that they could talk up safe sex and talk about condoms and talk up aids prevention which was a perfectly good thing to do but that meant they were going on all these men looking for men sites and i can't remember the name of them but well called there are there a dating site but there was a guy with his dick out and that was his advertisement for sale and i just laughed because it wasn't you know it wasn't you know i didn't get the dick pick in the in the mail which in my e mail which i wouldn't have liked but you know it just made me laugh because i just thought that it was just so funny because i could not imagine in in a million years that a woman would ever advertise on a dating site by taking a picture of her vagina this would never happen  a little bit further away when we can i guess we'll have a chance to come back and i want to go to gail dines and have her talk a little bit about for a fee and have the state that it is at this point in time our young girls to be ready for pornography whether they ever end up on a porn site or not and the reason for that is they are being taught to hyper sexualized import of find themselves and really when you think of all the thousands of call the fuck me lock i want you to think what it means to be mayo and grow up in a culture where before you can even speak females are offering themselves to you come get me come get me now of adolescence is the need to be visible what do you want from her when her friends are walking around with low slung jeans a tramp stamp with those midriff showing what do you want her to do because it is impossible to ask her to go for invisibility so this is not a choice this is being forced into a type of sexuality that she didn't invent that she didn't decide because there are so few choices really tell me what it was it was actually incarcerated child rapist i like to call take now there was in prison for raping his twelve year old stepdaughter and he was explaining to me how we groomed her and then he looked me straight in the eye and he said the culture did a lot of the grooming for me but culture is mass perpetrating against our girls per culture part two for the boys talking to a boyfriend and he said he had a deal breaker that she had to let him come on a face and she said no i'm not letting you do that so get rid of the notion of playboy or penthouse or even hustler those were the good old  pornography what changed everything was the internet the internet made pornography affordable it made it accessible and it made it anonymous do you know that porn sites get more visitors each month the netflix amazon and twitter combined just get your head around that and that we know that from started is that nearly ninety percent of the chop watched rented see have at least physical or verbal abuse against the woman i'm going to follow the breadcrumbs of a twelve year old with no credit card poor into google and i'm going to tell you what he's going to say the first thing he's going to see the major act on virtually all websites gagging this is where the man puts the penis so far down her throat that she gagged almost to the point of bomb it they put a lot of my scar on her face so that she's actually tearing and you can see the major form of sex or that thing was going to happen to the next generation of boys most of whom of water up on hardcore mainstream internet porn now the average twelve year old when he goes on to paul when he postponing to google what do you think he thinks he's going to say press people having sex do you think he's thinking of jacking of course is not that telling him you want to be a male this is your entree best friends because we believe more in men than the pornographers do and you know how i know that the pornographers don't tell the truth about men i know that as a feminist i know that as a scholar and above all i know that as a mother is mainstream porn this is what the twelve year old boy gets to within fifteen seconds we know from forty years of research that the younger the boys get to poor on the more it limits their capacity for intimacy the more it decreases th empathy for a pick things the more it increases depression anxiety and the more likely they are to engage in risky sexual behavior now we have a whole generation of boys desensitized because really what you want at ten is different  what you want of fifteen twenty thirty so where's this going in two thousand and two the free speech coalition which is the lobbying arm of the porn industry lobby the ashcroft court to take away the argument that you couldn't use girls who looked under eighteen and this is what we got overnight teen porn first time with daddy daddy's hall is ok she's my step daughter what are we going to do how are we going to tie this poor monster down step by step we're going to use the goal of a strategy education by education by education we're going to use a public health approach just like we stop drinking and driving you bring to the table all those who have a vested interest in the well being of the next generation and my group culture reframed we are taking the public health model and we are going to build parents programs we're going to build programs for professionals we're going to build programs for students because we are going to tie this porn monster down piece by piece and you know why because our children are worth more our culture is worth more  she got into some of the details of what porn is like these days so this is part of rape culture porn is a big part of rape culture porn is like the the propaganda for the min  power who consistently abuse women i guess it was mark halperin who the and he's a political commentator and the charge against you know one of the women who worked for him just had a job there and the next thing she knows she's sitting at her desk and he's behind her rubbing his erection against her women should i have to put up with this garbage these guys have been getting away with it forever i hope this is a turning point it seems like it might be because so many people are coming out and it's getting very hard to deny and people like louis c k have had to at least admit it although i don't find his supposed that apology very satisfying in fact he doesn't really apologize but he does he does at least admit it unlike people like rory more because the one you know this happens left and right but there does seem to be a lot more hypocrisy on the right because roy moore is a guy who was  disbarred because he insisted on though he was told that was not allowed when he was on the supreme court alabama insists on having the ten commandments there he insists that god's law outdoes man's law that it's not how our system works we have a separation of church and state we have probably one of the most religious countries in the world because we don't have a state religion but we have a lot of christian particularly that mean eunice to would like us to mary mary was young and and joseph was much older so that makes it ok i mean in the very very fact that evangelicals elected donald trump despite his you know self admitted being a sexual abuser in fact many some of them in alabama are saying the fact that this story has come out against roy moore the new venture some forty percent of evangelicals say that makes them want to vote for him even more and that was probably a selling point for certain people particularly men but there are some really bizarre women out there these days who there is a women who are into raunch culture  who you know thought that made more of a man i put up a thing this morning on my own facebook saying how we figured out yet that alpha men are not the solution but the problem  i don't even know all that i don't even give a damn about all the little names and carbines and numbers that go with the guns but all of the but what i do care about is almost all of these guys previously had been had some kind of record of domestic domestic violence of wife battering of beating women of abusing women and that would be a perfectly good key to noticing who who is likely to do this in fact in canada in canada to get a gun your your wife has to sign off your ex girlfriend has to sign off or you know the last woman you dave it's a woman has to t really you're someone who would be safe with a gun which is a pretty good idea and they don't have near the mass killings that we do the school shootings the theater shootings the mall shootings the now you know ever more spectacular ever more record breaking and we just say fine that's ok because in america guns are so much important their lives including kids lives when there's a shooting like at sandy hook so our problem is men in power feminists have been saying this for years and years no one likes to listen to feminists they're so annoying they want to overturn the order men don't want to hear it they're window you know that we've got a whole kind e not very very feminist sort of feminist movement that it's just so worried about pleasing men and not upsetting them by being anti porn or anti prostitution and by taking away the ability for women to even have shelters just for women so we really need to get back to a feminist movement we need to i think that that what's coming out is going to help strengthen that because it becomes very very very difficult to deny it anymore so many men yeah not all men but always men and there isn't much happening from man to do something about it we couldn't when we and i was in the burlington women's council we've proposed education going into the schools that would start at the earliest grades and be upgraded every four years ago to teach children how to get along with each other how not to sexually assault or how to report it how to do good touch bad touch and and on and on because but they wouldn't allow that there was already  the government had commanded and there was drug education in school but they would not allow an education around violence and and conflict resolution and some of the things that could be early interventions to the kind of violence that  comes up in marriages with wife beaters and abusers and as i said to pornography from the internet has really taken over there's been you know the idea that this is free speech but this is been abuse of women and it abuses women in the making of it the other issue that feeds into this is prostitution the idea that you can buy a woman young young men will say you know they they deserve sex because they bought dinner so that idea has to go the nordic model is is the one good thing they are that's happening where where demand for prostitution is criminalized not not the people who are victimized by it but the people who the demand side is criminalized and that is working where that has been intimately meant and it's lessening prostitution and that needs to happen and we need a women's that gets back to the principles of respecting women and we need people like gail dines doing what she's doing and looking at looking at pornography as a public health issue because it really is it really is twisting the sexuality of people of men and boys young boys who you know there's there's very little capacity for intimacy and someone who has been brought up with that it is an addiction it is it's a perversion of a of of  decent sexuality and key and really profound intimacy in decent relationships between people so it only exacerbates the tensions between the sexes and it has been so horrific for women and has kept them has stopped them from you know going further in their careers it  you know and the women are not believe that's that's consistent to the bible and the koran and all say that it takes at least two women to equal the word of a man in testimony when we when feminist you know when women did studies of the courts and how they worked out it worked out about that way and you can see from this how many it takes a ton of women for for anybody believes that these guys do what they do consistently regularly i hope that this is a moment when that begins again and i hope that it's also a moment when women realize we really need a women's movement we cannot count on our society to do that for us the only times that we have changed things for the better for women are when we've had a good strong women's movement