good evening good evening i'd like to call the continuation of the two thousand and sixteen annual a town meeting for the town of belmont to order  let us begin the meeting by the pledge of allegiance please rise and then please keep your seat sorry please remain standing after i said please remain standing i would like to have us observe a moment of silence for the victims survivors families friends first responders for the  terrible massacre in orlando thank you announcements the memorial day ceremony was canceled because of the weather so this saturday june eighteenth at ten am at the belmont cemetery on gross street the ceremony has been rescheduled to that time and everyone is invited this saturday ten am at belmont cemetery at grocery and then i just gave it out for just reported here in the chief  announced the gun buyback program last week and he reported that there were three towns and there were eighteen guns turned in from a town about mon and sixty eight from the three towns so it was so now let's do what we normally do test our devices and then i'm going to we're going to have a brief i'll explain in a moment the brief survey that we want to get feedback from the town meeting but at this point just to press one or to make any problems with anybody ok thank you now what we want to do is mr mercer if you have a problem am going to the right in going to where it was last week when i was voting you know i don't see yeah this is just a check but your name i don't see your name correct pushed on the push on the one more time don ok are the what we have we're going to ask you for questions of war and get a quick feedback warrant committee report capital budget committee report public schools budget and then community preservation committee and what we want to do is get feedback not enough detail provided press number one just the right amount press number two too much three did not read for you so you probably don't want to press for however so but seriously what we're trying to do we work hard to try to i mean we will all of the town officials and so forth to get you information and so we're trying to get a little feedback obviously as well after the town meeting this is the final night of town meeting if you have any suggestions send down clerk or to me and about how to improve town meeting so let's begin with a warrant committee report  thank you and then the community preservation committee report the special town meeting until after we complete the annual town meeting so we'll stop for thirty sixty seconds at that point just to temporarily recess an meeting to the order of the special town meeting and then recess that this is the special town meeting on the incinerator of course so the effect of that will be to do mostly the capital budget first and then the special town meeting and those are major major items tonight i would encourage this is our final night i would encourage you to continue to do what you've done which is having focused comments and we've covered a lot of business really quite expeditiously so frank you one suggestion was made that some of the speakers at the podium microphone step away from it or thirty dollars they're not talking into it so i asked in the speakers to please talk into the microphone because people in the back are having trouble hearing some of you and finally i just want to give thanks to all the people who put warrant i ellen o'brien cushman town clerk do hereby certify that i gave notice of the adjourned session of the annual town meeting held wednesday june eighth two thousand and sixteen by posting it as tested copy of the notice of adjournment on the town clerk's official bulletin board in the town hall and at least five other places in town giving notice that the annual town meeting had not been completed and had adjourned to meet again today monday june thirteenth two thousand and sixteen at the  middle school at seven pm briefly stating the business to be acted upon all in accordance with the representative town meeting acts of one thousand twenty six as amended and section three zero dash one one zero c of the general bylaws of the town of belmont thank you on now will do the order of the articles thank you mr moderator and through you to the members of town meeting i'm dave rogers your state representative and by virtue of being state representative a town meeting member at large and it's great to be with you most of you know me already but for those of you who are newly elected congratulations and i'm going to give you a report many of you gave me a lot of encouragement i appreciate that and many of you told me to keep it brief so i'm going to do my best to do that as well  the first slide you can see as just about the house budget that we just did the house passes a budget the senate passes a budget then it goes to conference committee where it is right now the house budget is about a four percent increase three point eight percent it has no new taxes no new fees it adds two hundred ten million dollars to the rainy day fund that was drawn down during the recession in the year since it also puts in about two hundred twenty five million to pension obligations and maintains the state's double a plus bond rating that's the highest bond rating the state has ever had in its history next slide please  for belmont belmont did well in local aid is strong in this year's budget it's up five percent chapter seventy is a education it's up almost five percent general aid is called unrestricted general government aid that's up  four point three percent chapter nine b is actually down because there was a one time increase last year governor baker released an additional hundred million plus thirty extra for the terrible winter we had so this is just a return to the historic norm in terms of chapter ninety is eight for roads for local infrastructure special education circuit breaker is been fully funded thanks i think it's good because i think it's an early indicator that this is a local decision what to do with the community path for all of you and other leaders in town to decide but it's an early indication that there will be money i think at the state and possibly federal level to help fund this year i was able to get fifty thousand for energy conservation in town buildings and another fifty thousand for storm water testing so that's that's a good thing  thing i want to talk about is a lot of legislators are feeling a little stymied right now when we go to push for priorities for early education for the tea the way and i've been thinking about this lot in going through the numbers because what i'm trying to understand is how can a state budget that has recovered from the twenty zero eight twenty zero nine recession still be under such pressure and it's under real pressure and when i go in to meet with the chair ways and means and other leaders we are really under still a tight state budget and why i'm thinking about this a lot as you know the stock market has tripled from the lows of the great recession so what does that mean so capital gains taxes should be increased and coming in at a higher rate or dividend income interest rates are low unemployment is low economic growth is solid and yet the state budgets under terrible pressure and so that's kind of a special thing i want to talk to you about tonight the state budget has increased by roughly twelve point seven billion forty seven percent from its lows during the recession and this year as i said previously the state budgets up about four percent so so what's going on why are we still in a tight spot and so that brings you to the next slide which is entitled challenges and a big factor is decreased tax revenues this state used  almost six percent five point nine five percent it's down now to just over five percent that cost the state about two billion a year in revenue the personal exemption has been increased and dividends and interest tax rates have been so this means every year about three billion dollars less for state policy makers to work with the other challenges you see on the next slide is that health care costs are up dramatically if there's one thing we could do in state government and probably the federal government is if we could lower the rate of growth in health care costs it would free up so much money for so many other priorities right now health care spending is well over forty percent of the state budget almost fifty percent of the state budget there's a structural budget deficit of roughly seven hundred to nine hundred million and then there are pension is just a way of saying retiree health care costs as many of you may know and then there's the obligation that we have a balanced budget unlike the federal government we cannot issue debt and run a deficit so the decrease tax revenue the rising healthcare costs and these other pressures mean that we have a state budget still under significant constraints and really the final thing i want to talk to you about is legislation and we're always have items moving on beacon hill i have a number of bills still pending i'm not going to talk about those i really just want to talk about the bigger things we did we passed solar legislation that increases the cap on net metering will also provide for a new program program is generally acknowledged to be not working well so a new program probably a declining block incentive program is going to be put in place i pushed for an even bigger solar bill and i think we're going to have to revisit it because we're already bumping up against the cap that we just raised we just did a big energy bill that will mandate the procurement of offshore wind and hydro power either from coal back or elsewhere and that an amendment was offered on the floor that's important on gas leaks right now we have a significant problem with gas leaks in the commonwealth it adds up to about ten percent of our greenhouse gas emissions and the way the state prioritize is fixing them is on a grade level one through three and it's done based on proximity to buildings the danger to public safety if an explosion occurred but it's not prioritized at all based on the damage to the environment and what this amendment will do is say level three gas leaks which peer to for did not have to be fixed on any special timetable will now have to be fixed  within five years that's that's a good piece that the next slide in the final slide on legislation is we did do transgender public accommodations we had a prior to this protection in the state for those who are transgender and jobs in housing but it was left off public accommodation because frankly it is controversial i pushed hard for it we got it done and finally by a two thirds majority so even if the governor had vetoed it we would have had the two thirds to override and i have to really commend the speaker of the house who pushed hard on this pushes members including some in their districts it's a terribly difficult issue but and finally governor baker did come out and say he's going to sign it if it's the house version so this is a good thing it's a triumph for civil rights in the and provide an enforcement mechanism when municipalities don't comply and the house version had that attorney's fees were awarded in the discretion of the judge which i favored i think the senate version made the mandatory and i people tell me well it should be mandatory but people forget guess who pays the attorneys fees you write so if a municipality is late and they're a levy on the town for attorney's fees it comes out of the town budget so i thought it should be if it's agree just in the discretion of a judge which is the way it ended up being criminal justice reform we did our m v collateral sanctions which is just a way of saying during the height of the drug war people automatically lost their license and people woke up and realized this doesn't make sense we want people to reintegrate we want them to be able to get jobs drive and so no longer will licenses automatically be suspended for drug violations and then we did an opioid abuse pill we know there's a terrible public health crisis in the commonwealth it is affecting all societies affluent societies white black young old men women it's shocking and i see it the carnage is very sad and a good friend of mine lost his daughter just twenty and so we passed a bill that will limit opioid prescriptions and increase education what we really need is more money for treatment which we've got to start on but we need to do more so last slide is my contact information i'm easy to find i'm always around enjoy serving as your representative and thanks for listening held wednesday june eighth two thousand and sixteen by posting in a tested copy of the notice of adjournment on the town clerk's official bulletin board in the town hall and at least five other places in town giving notice that the special town meeting had not been completed and had been adjourned to meet again today monday june thirteenth two thousand and sixteen at the cherry middle school at seven thirty pm briefly stating the business to be acted upon all in accordance with the representative town meeting acts of hundred twenty six as amended and section three zero dash one one zero c of the general bylaws of the town of belmont thank you i'd now like to adjourn the special town meeting until the completion of the annual town meeting and so we'll resume the annual town meeting at this point and i'll call on and paulson for a report on the underwood pool building committee has p month long the lap lanes slide and new diving board attracted lots of fans as did the expanded line area as we look to this first full season the recreation department has plans for activities and games throughout the day for the children and they will be earning early morning lap swimming on tuesday wednesday and thursday from seven am to eight am adults and of course swimming lessons will continue to be the most important item as of today over four hundred fifty passes have been sold for the two thousand and sixteen season to further improve the pool services this year shade structures have been installed for temporary relief from the hot sun and also vending machines will be  operation i think if you've written down concord avenue you have seen the big shapes that i have been put into place and we're hoping to open them very soon to correct the misuse of the paper towels in the bath houses last year which led to serious and very unpleasant problem plumbing problems electric and dry as will be installed this week no more paper towels we are hopeful that these will be receive proper use and respect as with any new facility there are some contact kinks and corrections that continue to receive our attention at the end of the season last year some very minor hail lined surface cracks appeared in both pools we have had those repaired and the bottoms of the pools have been painted with new a poxy paint the shrinkage cracks in some of the deck panels have also been corrected but visible i could say they the look like little worms are maybe some abstract as you're walking along we expect to receive an extended warranty so that further corrections can be made to the deck panels at the end of the season areas that were reported to be slippery last year in the pool and bathrooms have also been repainted with paint we are now working with  disability commission to make some corrections to the handrails along the ramps at the end of the season this year the deep pool will be covered it will allow us to keep that pool filled with water and will prevent the accumulation of leaves and grit which have stained the gutters we will continue to work with the contractor to correct that problem also the shallow end does not have the same problems and so it and it is very easy to drain in the fall an area geishas system will be installed to water the lawn on the north side of the pool which bakes in the hot sun and also the garden outside the east bath house though these two items the cover and the area geisha will save on the maintenance time expended by the d p w the extended sidewalk and crosswalk on a crowded street will be completed this week as will be the replacement plants in the garden all of the components of this project have come in well within the budget stablished by the town two years ago doing great back to the very small number of change orders and we are grateful to the contract if i help in that raghad the underwood pool building committee will continue to monitor the project with the town departments throughout this season and throughout the shutdown process when we are satisfied that the project is complete the committee will dissolve and hopefully that will be in the early fall thanks to the generosity of citizens and bell and the belmont savings bank during the fund raising campaign last year they will be fine set aside for future major maintenance needs of the pool which will be a help to the town as it maintains this facility in the future i want to publicly thank the members of the pool committee project we were fortunate to have a competent acca tacked on as project manager and contractor all of whom saw this project as important and work to make it a success we also grateful to the close attention the d w and the recreation department have given to the project they are the frontline staff and will continue to have responsibility for the upkeep of the pool after all the volunteers have moved on to other activities we hope the citizens of belmont will enjoy the pool and all the expanded programs and will continue to recognize it as a valuable piece of our community which children learn to swim at all stay strong and friendships of no thanks to garrison keillor thank you plan a sale a bond issue for the underwood pool project which is subject of a proposition two and a half dead exclusion to pay costs of the project to pay costs of the project finance by such bonds and to reduce the amount of unanimously recommends favorable action and the capital budget committee and mary mahoney chair of the capital budget committee and town meeting member precinct one the capital budget committee unanimously recommends favorable action mr thousand nine hundred two thousand dollars in april to fifty as part of the winning bid cash received was two million seven hundred ninety thousand in debt financing and one hundred twelve thousand in premium dollars for a total of two million nine hundred two thousand cash received for the underwood pool project the town will pay back to may and seven hundred ninety thousand dollars over fifteen years for the debt which leaves one hundred twelve building project the net effect is zero the project budget will be two million nine hundred two thousand as originally approved by tom meeting may two thousand and fourteen and a discussion thirteen and mary mahoney town meeting member precinct one chairman of the capital budget committee article thirteen moved that the town be authorized to construct reconstruct resurface or repay air all or portions of various town ways and to authorize the expenditure of five hundred thirty five dollars i'm sorry me start again five hundred thirty five thousand eighty nine dollars as may be received from the commonwealth of massachusetts through the massachusetts department of transportation for the fiscal year commencing july one two thousand and sixteen and expended under the provisions of and the warrant committee the work committee unanimously recommends favorable action this morning i think right now i'd rather include this is part of my report i think if there's questions i'll answer them but it's very straightforward this is the money that we receive is as representative rogers noted from the state it goes directly to our roads and we think any discussion saying not all those in favor  then she will make a presentation this morning and mary mahoney tommy member precinct one the chairman of the capitol budget committee article fourteen moved that two million six hundred thirty one thousand three hundred forty three dollars be appropriated for the purchase of public safety equipment site improvements public works equipment equipment for town facilities and consulting services in connection there with to construct public ways and for building and facility and publics works construction and for major maintenance and alterations including design work as follows said some to be raised to excuse me by general tax and expended under the direction of the board of selectmen and your vote of the capital budget committee capital budget committee unanimously recommends favorable action and the board town meeting members tonight i present to you the f y two thousand and seventeen capital budget despite the fact that i have no multi colored pie charts and i have only two photographs to show you i will try to make this entertaining you will find that my remarks overlap with some of the information that has already been reported by the warren committee and the school committee but this really only points out the importance of capital in all aspects of the town despite only being two point nine percent of the total budget i'd like to thank the members of the capitol budget committee and becky voice and becky both join me as the three members appointed by the moderator susan recommend sorry represents the school committee jenny fallon represents the warrant committee rafi mangi kian represents the planning board and mark polow represents the board of selectmen each member of the capital budget committee has his or her hands full already with their own committee work and other town commitments but nonetheless devote substantial time and expertise to the capital budget process each year that we address you we describe both the annual discretionary budget and the bigger picture of outstanding major capital projects this year is no different while having belmont high school chosen by the m s p a for funding is a ray of sunshine it only points a brighter spotlight on the need for addressing the other capital projects the capital budget committee has the opportunity to pose three questions to the town where are we now how did we get here and where are we going in other words the present divines defines the future and the future builds on the foundation of the past how did we get here we have actually accomplished quite a lot as a town and we should be justifiably proud of the foundation that we have laid for our capital projects i begin somewhat arbitrarily with nine hundred ninety seven with the opening of the chattering middle school because it was the first new construction in many years and because those bonds were just recently paid off since the opening of the  have renovated the town hall complex which includes town hall the home we're building and the school administration building we have built a senior center and two new fire stations we have built twice the harris field track and football field we have built a new wellington elementary school and most recently as we just heard from mrs paulson the new underwood pool and bathhouses we continue on our decades long capital projects of roads sidewalks water and pipe repair and replacement where does that leave us now what projects are currently under construction many of them you have already heard about other nights to multi year projects a nearing completion the to pal or old and belmont center reconstructions thank you god price we find they will be able to drive around the town the new electric light substation on flanders road is progressing well on  trajectory road and sidewalk work continue with increased funding this year water and sewer pipe repair replacement also continues on its plan the new challenge this year is the growing and romance at all levels of the school system which we also have already heard about we begin to address the need for additional classroom space not right now with bricks and mortar but with trailers and newly outfitted classrooms this is only the beginning of what will likely be a long ongoing process where are we going i am the neg who can continually stands up here and reminds you not only to rejoice in our successes but also to gather our energy and lots and lots of money for the leap into the future to solve the problems of today there is still work to be planned financed and accomplished two major projects are moving forward to desperately need to be addressed but unfortunately they have no natural constituency the belmont high school project began with a letter from the state in january and our approval of a building committee in february the library as you have already heard is working on their feasibility study to decide to determine the size and scope of their future what about the d p w facility and the police station both in desperate need of replacement one with the site one without and neither with any money private donors have stepped forward to fund a new skating rink and field house and they need to step back a little bit and coordinate with the high school project we will vote shortly on capping the incinerator site and this is a potential site for one of our building projects we continue our work on road sidewalks water and sewer pipes the feasibility study for the community path has just been awarded the big wildcard again is additional classroom space this will join road sidewalks and pipes as an ongoing need for years to come but we have to determine what form is that going to take where is it going to be placed and how big a project is this going to be stay tuned whoever thought in our lifetimes we would hear the words new elementary school escape the lips of the superintendent let's not forget the eventual need to update yet again the bottler when brooke and burbank schools which now approach having been renovated forty and thirty years ago time flies when you're having fun all right that's the big picture let's move on to the discretionary funds for f y seventeen what are our requests this year as always we have almost three times more requests than we have available money to spend total requests for this year our proximately six point two million dollars this includes the usual capital requests of roads and sidewalks but it also includes some new items it's time for us to replace our ambulance we need to add modular classrooms to the middle school for the growing and romans and we finally after fifteen years have the go ahead from the state to construct the press box that was always planned with the first harris field renovation we need to do significant repairs to the fire stations and the d p w facility and i'll talk more about that in just a minute what are our available funds to meet those needs how much money do we have to spend on six million dollars worth of requests we have about two point six million where does that money come from certainly not bake sales our initial allocation is one million four hundred thirty two thousand dollars the settlement over the leaking envelope on both new fire stations which totaled nine hundred eighty five thousand dollars artificially raises our allocation for this year as mi vinson explained in his war committee report this nine hundred eighty five thousand dollars will be applied to the repair of the fire stations along with four hundred sixty three thousand dollars from the capit budget in addition a cumulative amount of two hundred twenty seven thousand eight hundred fifty seven dollars which includes various smaller insurance settlements and turned back on used money from prior capital requests is also added to what we have to spend the combined two point six million gives us a good start on our request list we also have some additional funds one point six million for pavement management this comes from the two thousand and one in the two thousand and fifteen overrides as we just voted we now have five hundred thirty five thousand dollars in chapter nine the roads money and finally water and sewer enterprise funds were voted one of our prior nights and that totals about two million dollars we have one hundred twenty five thousand dollars of leftover money from the two thousand and fourteen harris field renovation project more on that to come hold that thought in your brain for a couple all right what is our process for new town meeting members let me outline the process that the capital budget committee uses to arrive at the budget that we present to you tonight apologies to those of you who have heard this multiple times you can now take a minute to check your facebook page first we receive a list of requests from the various department heads sometime in february department heads present request in a priority order they give us an explanation of their requests they also give us a look forward at what other requests will be coming to us in the next couple of years this helps us tremendously in our planning funding in any given year is not done in a vacuum it's done in the context of a multi year plan we interview the department heads to further understand their requests and to hear any additional information they might have for us between the time they wrote out their material and we actually sit down and meet with them we clarify outstanding questions with them either at the meeting or later through e mail and after we have gathered all of this relevant information and satisfied ourselves that we understand the requests we conduct a straw poll a simple yes no or maybe person by person on every single request we have found that a pretty clear consensus on most items develops quickly those items with mixed responses or additional questions prompt further discussion which for us is really a good thing after we've determined a list that is acceptable to all and fits within the spending parameters we take a formal vote on the budget that we will present to you sometimes additional money becomes available and we apply that to our budget either voting to choose the next item on the list or adding money to an item such as the ongoing building amble up study that we tried to do it and then our secretary and two of us old timers spend several weekends writing the report that you have and i'm so glad that i think one hundred twenty four if you really like it for those twenty of you who didn't read this i'm going to ask you to go home in a next few days read it because it's very interesting tonight we stand here with our budget i'd like to make a couple of comments on what i've labelled adjustments we often hear in many venues why can't we be more creative why can't we partner with adjacent towns why can't we think outside the box i assure you we are a pretty outside the box kind of group here's some examples of cooperation among among town committees outside the box thinking and creative solutions for the modulars together with the board of selectmen we decided it made the most sense to fund the modular classrooms out of free cash and you've already agreed with us otherwise one point four five million is our whole budget of discretionary money and while that had a certain appeal in that we would only have to meet once in our report would be one page it still wouldn't allow us to meet the many requests from the various departments belmont high school in the burbank classrooms outfitting these extra classrooms with furniture and technology originally a request for us is now being accomplished within the facilities operating budget and for that we think  sidewalks vacuum sweeper this is one of those pieces of equipment that d p w comes to us and says hey we really like to buy this we want to keep the sidewalks in belmont center and pushing square that we've just put down looking really good but it's kind of expensive and first we explored purchasing a sweeper with an adjacent community and sharing it with them we didn't think it was like a snowplow we're all going to have to use the same equipment at the same time regardless it didn't work out but that's ok because in the process of talking to them and really examining what our needs were we figured out that we did not need an eighty thousand dollars sidewalk sweeper we probably could do just as well with a twenty six thousand dollars sweeper and that's what we're going to ask you for  a pressbox was part of the original plan for the harris field renovation in two thousand and one however we ran into some accessibility issues and found that we did not have the appropriate space or the funds to make an accessible press box that would be required work we appealed and we appealed and we appealed to no avail with the dog and st loughlin and bill webster we finally achieved pressbox design and state excessive bill of the board approval so that now fifteen years later we can finally build a fully accessible press box that's the good news the bad news how much does that cost two hundred forty thousand dollars the request to us was for two hundred thousand dollars neither of which we had so what was our solution the reason we were only asked for two hundred thousand is that there remains in the two thousand and one building committee account or what we now have come to call harris field one forty thousand dollars there is one hundred twenty five thousand dollars remaining in harris field to the two thousand and fourteen capital account those two figures plus discussions that lead to a pledge of seventy five thousand dollars in donations from the boosters and other private donors adds up to the two hundred forty thousand dollars that we need so in this capital budget we are actually not asking you for a penny we are merely asking you to re allo case an existing one hundred twenty five thousand dollars so that that could be put with the forty and the seventy five to total two hundred forty thousand dollars and get this press so we're very excited and once again we really  and finally i pulled this out fairly arbitrarily out of the budget but because it also represents how much time and analysis that we do to lead to the best solution possible and that is the library the request for the librar spline ceiling the original request here was for forty two thousand dollars to add a ceiling to the top floor of the library in order to conserve heat and therefore energy wonderful idea we were all for it after some discussion and further investigation a different and less costly solution has been developed by the facilities department and will be done within their operating budget so once again we thank them for that created ok with all of that background let's review what the capital budget committee recommends to you  i have broken it down into categories or first category is public safety and security i'm going to go through all of this when i'm done there will be plenty of opportunity for questions on any of these items are any of my comments starting with the police department busy trying station a learning software conversion for sixty one thousand seven hundred fifty dollars this is the last piece of a town wide public safety radio system for the fire department turn out here totaling twenty five thousand dollars the last turn out that was purchased was purchased with grant money capital budget committee does not ordinarily purchase turnout here because like police cars it's really a basic part of the function of the department and therefore should be in their operating budget however at this juncture fire safety organizations strongly recommend that fire departments have two sets of turnout gear for each firefighter so that one is always ready to use and one is potentially being decontaminated this twenty five thousand dollar request will purchase ten sets of turnout gear the additional sets that will be necessary and future sets will be funded out of the fire department operating budget is just bridges the gap for them the ambulance this is the year we need to purchase a new ambulance we are requesting  hundred sixty six thousand dollars the total cost is three hundred and sixteen thousand dollars however over the past several years we have been putting aside fifty thousand dollars a year from our ambulance receipts for a total of one hundred fifty thousand dollars in set asides ready to use at this moment to purchase the new ambulance so the requested balance is one hundred sixty six thousand cardiac monitor is on a similar program seven thousand dollars each year we set aside seven out of the ambulance receipts the new cardiac monitor will be purchased this time next year for the health department request for an animal control van it forty three thousand dollars this replaces an eleven year old vehicle and will allow the animal control officer to safely transport animals that are wild or domestic dead or alive finally facilities town and school security upgrades sixty seven thousand four hundred forty nine dollars this will provide for security cameras in both town and school buildings this is phase three of a six year project the original request was for  hundred thousand dollars it has been pared down somewhat we are assured that this money can be well spent this year all right moving on facilities and equipment fire station building repairs i've talked about the requests from us is four hundred sixty three thousand five hundred dollars this together with the insurance settlement of nine hundred eighty five thousand dollars will assure that that envelope work can be done and those buildings will be in great shape d p w garage ventilation requests are two hundred fifty thousand dollars an awful lot of money for buildings that really need to be replaced however this is the one nine hundred twenty s ventilation system it has failed it has failed totally there's no ventilation no he fifty plus year old boiler with one that will be ninety three percent efficient the cost of this has been augmented by esko energy similarly library boiler eighty thousand also replaces a fifty year old boiler which also will be ninety three percent efficient this boiler we understand failed a minimum of nine days during this past winter which meant the library had to be closed schools hugely schools is a long list for us this year we just have two items town wide network switching equipment sixty thousand dollars this replaces six year old equipment at the high school but it serves the whole town and it's year three of a three year project yes i did say six years and that seems very short but think about it the computer you buy today is obsolete tomorrow so what do you do all right mabel terrace sidewalks thirty eight thousand dollars this ice item could also have been listed under public safety over the past few years we have funded sidewalk rebuilds around the wynn brook the burbank and the white and sycamore street sides of butler wellington sidewalk sidewalks were done with the new building this should be the last of our safe walking work around our elementary schools the maple terrace work includes new sidewalk and granite curb roads and sidewalks this information is a little anticlimactic pavement management at one point six million combines the to override funds chapter nine he was just voted on sidewalk maintenance this is money from the two thousand and fifteen override two hundred thousand dollars plus our two percent two and a half percent increase of five thousand five hundred dollars so five thousand yes two hundred five thousand i can do this anyway more sidewalks we're happy now here's the trick here one sidewalk management program we talked about this a very long time fifty thousand dollars request for a survey of sidewalks that would produce a master priority list of sidewalks for repair and rebuilt fifty thousand dollars is a lot of money for a list however having this list having some outside entity do it and really study the condition of all of the already told you about the sidewalk vacuum sweep ok enterprise funds this is easy cuz we already voted on them but enterprise funds go to continue the repair and replacement of our pipes it also qualifies us for no interest m w are a loans and it purchases needed equipment to do those repairs and replace finally have talked about the harris field press box this is a good partnership between the town departments and the citizens and private donors similar to the skating rink and field house proposal so both of these are really wonderful opportunities for the town and we are very grateful for these donors for stepping high return to planning the capital budget committee forms follows a plan to put money aside for new ambulance we space out the purchases of our fire engines and our snowplows we fund ongoing work on building envelopes and roofs and ventilation and we fund today's requests while planning for future needs we return to the big four capital building projects we start now on belmont high school which will total more than one hundred million dollars the library will come in somewhere in the twenty's of millions of dollars the d p w has a location and needs twenty eight million dollars police station could be built on the incinerator site regardless it needs a site and word to be built on the incinerator site we have a a study that suggests it will cost nine hundred million dollars and of course the additional classroom space all of these projects have to be part of our master capital plan at this juncture i would like to thank everyone that we work with who patiently answers our questions who finds the creative solutions for us who makes do with less who keeps the needs of the town in the best interests of its citizens foremost and who gets us from the past to the present and into the future with a smile we say to you art fill thank you dr seuss would tell us only you control your future mahatma gandhi would suggest the future depends on maintenance to the new sidewalks we have i am on a street where it hasn't been done and it feels like a mini roller coaster every time i walk on it because of all the roots of of the big trees i notice that when the new sidewalks are being placed or when for example when the big trees fell down and they repaired the sidewalk they put another tree right at the same location is there now thought as to the size of the tree is a tree going to do the same thing to the sidewalk in a few years because you are replacing all the sidewalks but the tree is going to then lift up the sidewalk if you don't think about the size and the location of the trees that are putting on jay marcotte will come down and answer that for you it is a question that we receive often and it does tend to be a balancing act between the tree that would have gone in wouldn't it be to improve tree wire tree warden and typically those are slow growing or slower growing tree typically probably fifteen to twenty foot high with like a slower growing root system some of the trees in town we have are massive and have pretty involved root structure root systems that cause a lot of damage and through the years they've learned to have a lot more ornamental trees if that answers the question they will replace it but the trees being replaced is one is just hopefully going to cause less damage and be not as intrusive and not as high blown away so that's all over the sidewalk so it's not something that has been considered maybe adding more trash cans better trash cans doubling up some way to be douce number of trash i thought your voice sounded familiar mercer yes we're going to we will give him quite a listen i got a few a few questions i got more than one question but i got two or three questions here i want to go through all the different departments i would hope that you would allow me to could answer that better than i could  second party question yes our intention put it back in the same place because a central located in the mechanical room moving into the location required relocating so much piping it really would be worth it so it's planned to go back in the same spot we're done with the middle of a room that room is rather big buildings for fifty sixty years agreed and marie mahoney chair of the camel budget committee tell me member precinct one this was work that was not done correctly when the buildings were constructed thus it's an insurance settlement we had to sue to get it done correctly we have a sum of money to do it correctly it's not quite enough capital budget is is throwing in the rest but this is to correct what was not done correctly and initially we're going to have a clerk of the works for that billing so the mixture of that more or cement is done properly that's what the problem is rly two thousand to two thousand and three mr mitchell may give you a few figures about the fire stations we built to fire stations in round numbers for twelve million nine hundred thousand dollars that soft carson's construction we acquired a piece of land for a million five so our total cost for the two new vice stations one of which the picture behind us which replaced the fire station it was built two years before crazy hoss laid custer at big on that that's th truth in any event the land acquisition was a million five therefore fourteen four was for the two stations we sold three stations for four million two hundred fifteen thousand dollars so we ended up at the stations for ten million one hundred thirty three thousand dollars now there is a thing known as the files a big law and what that means is the lowest sub contract of the lowest bid the general contractor must take it and there's a lot of problems with the law first of all the sub contractor realizes gee whiz he's the slowest maybe he's got to get some money back because he's made a mistake he has no loyalty to the general contractor because the general contour is going to hire him again only if he complies with being the lowest bidder again as a result of which and we had a we had a clerk at the works there are things that you miss in public building it turned out that flashing wasn't turned up it turned out that the  fire the waterproof barrier when they were hanging the bricks and so forth they punctured it they never sealed it when they put the metal panels on the again punctured the fireproof seal and they ended up allowing water to drop down in back and from the day the buildings opened they leaked and believe me it bothered us and for six years we chased leaks and then finally got to be near the time the statute of limitations likes by and i filed suit on behalf of ok the contractor brought in seven subs and thus began the finger pointing everyone claiming it was everybody else's fault they came up with an estimate that they had quoted station could be fixed one hundred eleven thousand dollars that's about two thirds of the problem the highest they ever got was about two or three hundred thousand dollars we prosecuted this suit ended up they want to take my deposition and i decided i needed a lawyer so i turned to george hall and million dollars i estimate from simpson gambon hagar was one million three hundred fifteen thousand dollars of that fifteen percent was a contingency which is almost june of that was our best shot in that case for those leaks in our own expert which was as conservative as aggressive i guess it could be there were it was like one point one million dollars with no contingency if they could get two million dollars we were going to disney world in clear victory they got the nine hundred eighty five thousand dollars we took it point three million dollars figure and to answer your second question to make sure that it's done and done right he's got a supervision factor and then design factor so the extra one hundred thirty thousand dollars is to make sure it's done and done right on when i asked you what was the one point four million the cost to do the work is now being offset by when you would you say has settled the case for nine hundred thousand nine hundred eighty five thousand one point three was was the was the amount of disprove here about the pinion about the health effects or potential cost of building on that site and if maybe there will be concerns in the future like ten years down line or five years as mr mercer b b was mentioning about about long term concerns about the site potentially opf asked for an upgrade of estimates for new buildings for the d p w the police station and at that time also the high school in the library would be going for with another feasibility study at that time the proposal was put forth what if we built a police station on the incinerator site because the library site at that point was foreclosed we have a figure we have not gotten into any of those issues that you have raised that's something that would have to be done down the road was simply looking at figures at this point i just want to say thank you very much for your input i just want to make sure that that would be something considered that's all thank you oh absolutely wind brooke boiler has been reduced by some esko funds which is energy grant money on the sidewalk maintenance program i know we do you said we do a similar program we did we did a similar analysis for the anywhere that will be able to have that information public and reviewable by people so we can get a sense of when your site is it's like waiting for the ice cream man to come by everybody wants to know when their road or sidewalk is going to get fixed yes as soon as that report is done it given to where we might cite a new elementary school which seems like it's in our future and is the d p w site being considered as one of those anne marie mahoney chairman the kava budget committee time any member precinct one i also served on the space task force where we just blue sky everything that was out there what do we need to know about space for additional students for additional classrooms and it was at that point that the superintendent said gee we might need a new elementary school and the rest of us around the table said i don't think so because there's no place to put it it's one of those things you have to put everything out there is it likely that there's a site in town that would meet the m s b a requirements for an elementary school today i don't think so the d p w site the incinerator i don't think any of those are properly sized no but that's just me based on some very i'm looking at the superintendent behind you based on some very preliminary discussions we're fully built out town the last time we talked about an elementary school i think i'm going to date myself now is nine hundred sixty seven when we were going to put a new elementary school on belmont hill on the would fall road site even to even now today that site weren't available would be much too i have been in that facility i am surprised it has not risen to the top of our priority list year after year after year none of us in this room would work under those conditions and i'm surprised we haven't  been some legal issues so can you please talk about where d p w is in the list of priorities we've got a lot of money going into fixing something that if i were to have to spend or make those decisions on my own home i would not be making that choice correct and remove horn chairman of the capital budget committee i'm going to answer for wearing several different hats the capital budget committee several years ago tr create a formula or a graph or a tool for prioritizing the outstanding capital projects we did we thought we did a really good job we worked with the selectmen with this the d p w kind of rises to the top however belmont high school was at that point always out there as maybe next year maybe next year maybe next year we're going to get the money from the state to go forward now fast forward to the financial taskforce we once again reviewed the capital projects we zeroed in on what i'm calling the big four the high school the library the d p w in the police department and all things being equal absent state reimbursement the d p w is absolutely the most needy followed closely by the police department the d p w has a site has a plan has an estimate then we got the magic letter from the state for the high school and all of the focus more was to the high school similarly on a parallel track is the library doing a feasibility study for what they're going to do in place if i were in charge of the world and i say this only as an individual or i guess i'll limit it if i were charging the town bellman's good film with a good yes i would start the d p w project tomorrow is me by said that it has a site has a site has the money day at its present location we have looked at various locations for the d p w as part of these various committees it stays where it is that's the best location for it it's it's properly sized it works in terms of getting to various parts of the town and i have to say the neighborhood loves them i think judas sarno would be very unhappy if we moved  so we're listening to sure of that we're listening to her neighbors and that is an appropriate site and so my second question is with all of the planning that has gone on over all of the years with all of the same parts that continually feel like they're moving around a minuscule sound somewhat self serving but in it and it is not i personally would benefit from seeing some type of a  map to see where these projects are and where we are where projects are going on where work is going on in and what's happening i know that i worked together with other town meeting members to develop that map a map that would hopefully be helpful and it hasn't really gotten any traction and i'd really like to know what you think about that moving that forward and maybe even having something like that available to town meeting members to see how these projects are progressing where they are in town you know so that you can see the visually the size of i mean even when i showed you that map and you saw the incinerator site and you saw the d p w you said oh my goodness that's what peter's been telling me all this time it's not go there so even you know even those of us who talk about square footage in space are can really benefit from it is that something that you could benefit from having moved forward in the council budget committee yes i think it would be of benefit to all citizens and particularly the town meeting members to see that map as a resource and to understand the feasibility studies that have been done in the fairly recent past on those four buildings and now in particular police and d p w i think in the end regardless of how we prioritize things or how much we say you know is this more important than that it all comes down to money it's always money in the end and how as a town do we finance these projects without driving the taxpayer out of town because they become too costly for the individual  homeowner that's the balance and i think in the last few months i know mark and i have talked about getting certain components of the financial task force back together again to start to have these discussions and start to look at this because we will be asking the taxpayer at some time in seventeen or eighteen for a debt exclusion for the high school is there some way to dovetail these other projects and i simply asked that is a question if the map would be of yes ma'am catherine bone president for i wanted to build on paul roberts question about the sidewalk management program you had said it was going to be similar to the pavement management program is that going to include pedestrian counts the way we do traffic counts for roads i'm going to mr market jay market director of public works they do look at traffic and traffic flow or foot traffic but the initial reason or the the need for this study is to look at worst overall we have no idea overall what our sidewalks are if i asked everyone here they probably would say or that being said they were to take or look at holistically how much money we get only and how we could either blend or piecemeal or take a little bit of the worst a little bit of like the i guess ok and then total rehab there you know it would be a blend to try to get the most out of it that we possibly can with the funding that we have this or also identify how much total town wide we're looking at for it if we were to have unlimited funds what would look like if we need to replace our sidewalks that need to be replaced we have no idea really what that looks like so from what you're describing it sounds like no matter what the pedestrian generators that might be around that will have a factor into it like the schools right now we're obviously i guess my tribe definitely is going to be part of it but it's going to be a holistic plan that's going to identify what needs to be addressed with the funding we have where you make it clear to people how the decisions are being made that it's not you know i understand things may be more cost beneficial if you're doing exactly the road but there may be other factors that could tip the scales for instance if a sidewalk is in an area where it's really not frequently used it really doesn't make sense to quick follow up i said i just want to ask you if you might be willing to look at the complete streets program as a way to find further funding for sidewalks and roads where we're aware of the program and it's fairly new and director clancy and i john o'connor precinct five i've read says question before but it don't say much improvement some going to bring it up again it's about the quality of work we guess when we do repairs on our sidewalks i run a small masonry company and it's plain to see some of the sidewalk repairs we do they fail very very quickly and i know we're spending fifty thousand dollars on the study for somebody to go around and look at the sidewalks and tell us what's good and bad but it's have a policy one year and we have our internal individual that does check up on him and we do go after the vendor that has a failed sidewalk so it is a process we are working on that we i'm talking about concrete a lot lately the sidewalk if you know after a week or two or three if there's a visible crack we will tell the vendor to get right out and put in oil we have no issues about that and we are constantly looking at or inspecting i should say progress so agreed the material works maybe a library different things that we need definitely more oversight when the work is being done with the not good enough stuff fails really quickly let's get it right from now on sure followed up with what the original question was yes it would be a one man or one person operation to run this particular piece of equipment we are still exploring what tools are out there for us to look at we're actually looking at one tomorrow there's a lot of varieties a lot of different gadgets that they offer and we're just trying to identify the best one that suits the news for the town very quick  on the you know more control than how many miles and van have on enry mahoney chairman the capital budget committee the issue on that van is not miles it's what it's capable of doing that van right now is not outfitted to carry animals and so we're trying to provide a safe van for the animal control officer it's old i don't know how many miles it has on it the issue for us is safety was distributed to town meeting members on may twenty one of the things i've tried to encourage people to do in that time which is about three and a half weeks is to reach out to the capital budget committee or whoever is the appropriate official and ask questions in advance i have and that's by and so you've had actually four or five questions here and i've been doing because of my indulgence so i've gone to a lot of these meetings well i'm fine thank you one one where you can report needs and incidences in and there's a transparency the takes place where that report goes up on line i mean you're using crowdsourcing so that you the illegally parked car this a pothole those a broken branch so that not only does it use citizens eyes and ears to report things but then that is put up and is transparent to people and everyone knows when committee to specifically answer your question no we haven't done that however does it sound like a good idea yes is it something that we certainly would be willing to explore yes and i'm sure mr market would as well thank you for bringing it to our attention ok no further discussion and let's follow all those in favor of the motion under article fourteen of first motion please say i was opposed now to adopted is so thank you miss moni for and the capital budget committee for all your  to massachusetts for recreation public works or other municipal purposes chapter eleven of the acts of two thousand and fourteen move that the town vote to accept a conveyance from the comm with the massachusetts for recreation and public works or other municipal purposes the parcel  plan number eight two of nine hundred fifty six in recorded with the deed from the commonwealth to the town of beaumont recorded in book eighty seven thirty six page five ninety nine and the vote of the board where select me you never see recommends favorable action closure use is not required at this time we do intend to have a very robust discussion and input from all of you and from the community in terms of post closure use because in order to determine what we do five some of you may remember this it was an incinerator site it was for incinerator use from seventy five to ninety five it was a transfer station and then from seventy five to present it was limited public work uses as stated  the state to convey back to us from the division of capital asset management maintenance and that is nine point four eight is which is a use for yard waste and recycling that's what we currently own and next lie will show that right so the fifteen point six three is what we're looking for i think there's about eight acres that is wetlands that can't be used of the total twenty five so the town owns nine point four and we're looking to have conveyed back to us fifteen point six three acres just real brief we've been meeting with the de camp and we do think our legislature is for the special act in two thousand and fourteen to allow for this conveyance we have been meeting with them for several years to in order to try to get this land back that have reverted back to the state once it no longer was used as a incinerator side or a transfer station so in one thousand fifty five the incinerator use  lynn was that it reverted back to their ownership and we certainly had several meetings with the cam and other state officials to discuss that matter fortunately we reached an agreement to get reconvenes back to  a month through the legislation that was filed in two thousand and fourteen to korea convey the parcel to be used for municipal purposes only that was a special provision that they required to be used for recreation public municipal purposes so we can never commercialize the land that would be conveyed back to us with seems to make sense frankly so in terms of the right literally actions and i'm happy to answer questions because this may be complicated this is what we've done to date we had initial site assessment we've done a comprehensive site assessment we've had correction act corrective action alternative than alice's evaluation of post closure options and there is a report done by c d c smith i think is online pretty certain it's online or if not we can provide it to tommy members it's a fairly comprehensive report we've had some discussions about postal is used again we're not getting into this evening the fairly robust conference report and post closure uses and the board has met on that a couple of times we've had cut contract documents for demolition of the incinerated building and problem or corrective action  design so far to date we've spent five hundred two thousand five hundred forty one of the future activities we do need to demolish incinerator building and kept the ashley until we have approximately four million dollars in that stabilization fund and then we need to determine environmental remediation post closure monitoring again to determine how you cap it we need to determine post closure use so that needs to come first before we determine what type of cap if it's open space it's less of a cap if it's for a police station or some other recreational purposes probably more comprehensive cap so site evaluation is ongoing in final d p had the go ahead for capped as nine is expected in early two the there was an appraisal that needed to be performed be performed in terms of conveyance and the determination of the appraised value by the inspector general was of value as of october twenty first two thousand and fifteen of the fifteen point six three acres of one million three hundred seventy five thousand dollars and it's the full and fair market value of the premises but the good news in all this is that we get a credit offset for whatever we spent whatever we determine to zero because as i've mentioned we spend about a half a million dollars and if it's expectation on the capping will be millions so that's what we were hoping for and we did get that letter there was a very fortunate very fortunate current for the community so just briefly on post closure uses next slide please these are some of the alternatives we discussed and again that report is terrific we've talked about leaving it as open space certainly a possibility passive recreational use active recreational fields i think we need some of those correct i like the idea of potential solar farm something to consider or other municipal uses alternatives include a portion of the site to be set aside for public work operations so more to come on that and the trims of the process just to give you some sense of timeline we need to complete the site analysis by july of twenty seventeen this is the d p e p process we need to determine post closure used by september twenty seventh hundred so we don't have a heck of a lot of time to determine this we need to demolish the incinerator building by october twenty seventh complete the ca kill time in a straighter tell me has already approved appropriation of a half a million dollars to move this process along in prior town meetings which will be primarily focused on the demolition of the instead of the incinerator of building ok so then just i want to understand really quickly that the three point seven are we expected you're talking about a credit there's an expectation that that money that we're incurring or that costs are incurring in getting this conveyance we will get some of that state ok do we have any idea of how much or we're not getting any money back basically the money that were acquired to spend regardless of whether we accept conveyance or not we are required to cap the site so those costs are basically will be spent by the town fortunately the appraisal came in less than those costs of the credit will be applied towards the eucharist value from what we plan on spending i thank you great thank you yes mcnair precinct seven time e member i really i think this is very important all sort of reports i was wondering if there was an environmental report maybe the state did on the site i know that we have yet to cited what we're going to do with it and we have decided what type of capital  appropriate cap will be for the appropriate use and the cap will cap the ash that's there and then any and all we're working with our consult with the e p a to basically make sure that we do all the requirements and it's a prescribed process that we need to follow i the word need a lot of time are the steps in that schedule kind of internally planned process or has the state mandated that we hit certain milestones by five i'd like an explanation because i have sort of a vague idea of how this works but i'm not clear if there are environmental concerns to be remedied my understanding is that that belmont is in sort of had received approval from the state particularly it started with cushing cushing square area and it extends actually all through cambridge so we would probably get some that's the only site worth discussing that's you know i understand but i just was saying that i believe that we're sort of in a general area where where we will get some remediation  or i was wonder if you could educate me just in brief i just have a vague idea of the incinerator site the term ash is it in a confined space is it literally ash or seventy five i believe you said so it's been sitting there for about forty years so is are all of a sudden the sense of like what was the thing that made them come to you and come to us and say it has to be done at this point  concern that this is been a david kill time or this is been an ongoing process for several years and so clearly when you have ash based upon you burning any and all materials there is contamination that needs to be kept mr roberts roberts town meeting member precinct eight marc just if you could kind of walk us through the process going forward conserve bunch of different possible uses i think everybody here probably has their favorite up right there so what will be the process by which the community can weigh in and are you guy is there going to be a point at which we can say for example ok we want to use it for recreational fields you know the additional cost of that cap for the community would be more the taxpayer will be you know x hundred thousand or million dollars and and so we can actually look and say ok this is what makes the most sense given the costs involved a more political voice that when tommy member at large paul that's a great question i don't know that we completely mapped it out but i mean from my point of view we need to have several precinct manager tommy members considering perhaps even a survey to the entire town as well because i think this decision whatever we make here is going to be permanent for a number of years and also as you say in the drives or the situation around what we cap it for i don't think we have fully vetted the solar farm idea which i think we should seriously look at to consider is that a benefit to the community in itself when in this report so there's a lot of work we need to do to get input from the community terms what we determine to be post closure use i would imagine that will confer with a number of committees as well tommy members residence you're right i want you never different point of view if you read the c t m smith report and keep in mind it has to be for municipal purposes so we understand that correct if you read the report it really outlines and we may have to update that as well the costs associated with post closure use obviously a permanent structure is more costly do we have the funds that we can afford to do something like that can we really put a building near can a building be put there you know this recent articles about the police station being cited there is that a possibility is that what the folks want i don't know the i was going over different point of view on that so there's a lot of were did the board needs to do to get input from this community to determine the best course of action for this town ok so assuming there will be hearings and some of the various there has to be slog i mean i can't make it in a vacuum you know i may have a point of view about what to do you know recreational feel maybe a solar farm but maybe folks want something else i don't know there was some want to just keep it as open space open space is the least costly and is going to cost us less the kaput but process started we were all sort of shocked about the fact with and have to spend three or four million bucks to cap this thing and then we found out that we didn't own it and we're going to revert back to the state and we've now gotten over that shock stated value which i guess has now been determined to be one million three hundred eighty five thousand dollars it's i guess my question is in the absence of special act in two thousand and fourteen could we have not paid the state the million my question is in the absence of the special acts of two thousand and fourteen which put certain restrictions on the future you it's a site could not of this town paid a million three sixty five and own the land  no cost mr hall let's have mr hall answer the question george hall town council it's the policy of of the commonwealth when conveying real estate to towns now has to require payment of fair market value and to sell it for an identified purpose with a revert or clause so that if the town no longer uses it for that purpose it comes back to the commonwealth so even if you paid the one point three million dollars they would still insist that the purpose of the transfer be identified and there be a revert or clause a guess i'll take the the question one step further we cap it and give it back to the state without the acts of two thousand fourteen what's the state going to do with it well mr hope bear in mind there's george hotz have counsel there's sort of two two parts of the house here from the environmental standpoint we're dealing with the requirements of chapter twenty one eon the  contingency plan the town is responsible for the site whether it owns it or not so that is just going to have to be done i understand that i'm willing to spend the four million bucks to cap the thing right now i'm saying give it back to the state i'm just not following that logic why would we want to give it back to the state of think it's fifteen point six three acres most of which we can do something with maybe we just keep it as open space but there are many just will use as we can seriously consider that we need within this community and in effect if you think about what i just described in terms of the costs the cost to get it reverted back to us is zero the only thing that we're under from a restriction perspective is to be used for municipal purposes only which the state was very adamant about this as  hall indicated in discussions with them he said we're not going to give it back to the town for you to commercialize it we're just not going to do that in the discussions with them so fact today is and frankly the legislation would never have passed a bill to allow opportunity other than to have the land reverted back to this community to be used for municipal purposes only yes ma'am i kristen's precinct one town meeting member of a comment and a question my comment is i do find it a little bit disconcerting that we're taking on this responsibility without having a full understanding of the environmental impact and the potentially onerous remediation of those the second is a question to what remediation plan and the town's responsible for carrying out that remediation plan regardless of whether it owns the property or  to be determined was post closure used to terminations first before you determine what the cap cost is so we have to cap the sight less of a cap for open space and passive recreation more of a cap for other uses that's why it's has to be determined we haven't yet determined post closure use once we do that we'll understand more completely what type of a cap we need to put on that actually in full that's why it was to be determined so it was confusing thank you say no further discussion all those in favor of this motion please say i was opposed no the motion is adopted mr polow