i mean that by that is that in and i would ask you to please address this if you if you were to use a human to face on a dog what are some degree in the human toothpaste to cause a problem well i actually wouldn't even use human to space some of them that are out there commercially available on humans that long my dog bowl in there that is bad titanium dioxide that's harmful to both humans and pets s l s is another thing that's  products and to promote them and and hand them out as free samples in the office and i wouldn't i wouldn't touch them these days and ice and i say that even though i am a license dentist and  these products are so toxic for humans and i and of course i'm speaking from my license from the pastoral medical association but the the toxic to us level on the to our animal so something we should never ever use on our on our dogs are absolutely so when you started to research paris what works tell us about that process and how you how you pick certain and radiance and eliminate others well when  sister being a dentist and i research it as a medical doctor i was for products that did not only did no harm but also had effectiveness and being cancer specialists i inside my product that works in a natural way so when we initially did the research we wanted to make sure that there was nothing poisonous for pet there and then we did further research and found out that adding coke at oil to a product would not only benefit the oral health and gum health of the pets but also is an anti virus so it will get rid of some of the bacteria because digital disease which was another reason we chose to do a pet right is because your pet store really die from cavities or have issues with cavities they have gum disease and you start out two or three years a sac clear exactly and that leads to other complications such as heart disease which shorten a pet's life her it's a problem for the owners as well because when your pet is having a medical problem you're having that same you're experiencing your same as it's russian emotion and and my natural financial burden is huge and veterinarian sciences so advanced but they've they've mimicked our model and us to me it's you would think you could come up with a and that's going to go into the bloodstream but when you ingest that there are other things that can be an issue you know those are all good things there's great things you know i often tell people to take coconut over but on the dog's gums you know for infection and it's it's anti bacterial talking specifically about breast cancer we're going to kind of skirt that today and focus on on the effort that you made in producing a good product that i can't wait to try and utilize but  so you made that association of breast cancer and talks and talks to city from chemicals that were ingesting it's not only chemicals over ingestion use also chemicals are exposed to an every day life such as you know your shampoo has  said screen has titanium dioxide it all of these add up and viral mental stresses lack of sleep your melatonin getting pretty much disrupted all of that adds to your cancer risk and so not just one thing so the dogs have that same same response they develop breast tumors in so horses just as from what they're ingesting absolutely a lot of the food out there and products that are out there for pets are just as toxic and just as chemical bases of products that are available to humans i mean from a personal experience had a doberman that unfortunately passed away from widespread cancer that we didn't even know what to know how have dogs that have rescued and they won't let you get near their mouth no matter what i do i mean even if a permit is always a good good anti bacterial anti viral and this one in particular he sees he sees the bottle perform and he started he starts to can also shut down your system system and it creates seizures in death and it's to me i'd rather deal with the little flare ups that happen and try a systemic treatment all the time sort of  prophylactics and never risk putting my dog to sleep i have to stay clean that's absolutely true you know and so we have i have those issues and you know and sometimes it bothers me because i know so much about it and i know the effects of this bacteria grove and so forth but it's the lesser of bradley which we'll talk about a little bit later this was literally illegal or love we knew that there was a need out there with both my pets and my husband's doberman d the room was filled yes because the demand is there for the knowledge and the approach to support the body not treat it with chemicals and talks and yeah and so right i think you're at the beginning of a in most toothbrushes because a lot of i don't know if you seen this petty pressure some of them have literally wire whistles like this ones that you clean your pots and pans so this is soft silicone brushed it gets into n come actually the first company that created this direct application of the i mean seated a gum line with this and this brush tip allows you to kind of massage gently into the gum line so if you feel it it's pretty soft he's not a good guy did i can't get to him with a if i put a q tip in his mouth he goes no yes you know but let's see what he does say he doesn't like anything like that so he had he's a guy that needs it he's got an issue and have been treating it now but see that's that's what i get in sometimes it's violent i mean i've i've actually had him in the office with my high genista home you holding him the high jenna's trying and then it was so much trauma to him and so much trauma  massage just one click on the upper one click on the bottom it's enough gel for a little one of i mean b j and we're going to talk in other show about the human side of it did you do the same type approach with you know we do have  absolutely one of the concepts and even the ingredients here keeps the bacteria off the bristles so a lot of times you use a tooth brush and you keep it on your counter for six or six months and it picks up the bacteria bypassing the digestive mechanism that helps keep down bacteria and viruses and fungus and people don't think about that but here you have an ingredient that's in here that's preventing that very same thing from happening incredible and sort of thought of it if you spray it on into their mouth and it by them moving their tongue and looking around their mouth it kind of cleanses them out it's the same so the same ingredients  us yeah i think you could actually put this in a heart attack candy for me it would sell like crazy because it is actually pretty interesting that said that i have interviewed next time lollipops that i was you know it might be a whole way of doing it because you could have a a a like you had more of it would most likely be good for diabetics as well but it has anti bacterial this medicinal purposes yeah it's something that you could chew on or now or have teeth or i have this belief and i know the audience knows this if i can't use it my animals are not going to use it and if it's not effective on me it's not to be effective on them i mean are there anything it's going to be harmful to the i'm the biggest experiment person out there i'm experimenting on myself all the time so i do this see thing you know i firmly some of these products myself actually just based on what i know for me and my better cold background food at a water makes little gravy and and you have to put on legally put on the bottle that said for animal use only yet it was the only animal products made in a  human among all the other supplements that are being made in this factory but you had to say it but what i could legally get up and do is go it's for animal use only but i use it daily you know and a lot of people were pet stuff is generally like the worst the worst of that you know and you sit there and go like no wonder we're sick no wonder we have breast cancer no wonder we have brain tumors no wonder we're no wonder we have all these inflammatory life threatening that issues hormone issues and i know when you and i talk to us that i can that is because your philosophy your coming from medical backgrounds and medical training and we get in we learn a lot and we get indoctrinated into certain way and then we become what i don't know if i were in our conversations mention that you are always lecture and say i was trying to frankenstein medicine and everybody goes you know what are you talking about you know oh i was trained to cut it  and you don't lose that that works for you and then you take this natural approach and coming up with products such as this it's like blending nature's medicine with western medicine yeah and i think it can and will work in harmony together shouldn't be always right shouldn't be becomes about money and it does it does in a certain extent i mean i am still really like you said  e western medical part of me and being a surgeon there is a different philosophy that has been ingrained in me over to past fourteen fifteen years that  giving us our own body healing itself so i would i i i do believe in that philosophy so so it would be interesting you know when we talk about breast cancer or anything else to get your perspective on it because with the new changes and way that people are seeing how cancer should be treated it's great i think it's an interesting conversation so if we go to petra dot com  and that's how we like it because we get our message out we have a personalized connection but it's about an acacia and you have to educate the stores people in order for them to educate the customer the colors because they come in and they look at a shelf and have a close on what to do and what to get what they use and what works and it's really hard i mean it i give me a toothbrush because you always think about the do emphasize that oral health is very important pets