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underway for your belmont marauders and we'll have plenty of sports coverage one of their first games of the year big win against a middlesex league rival wilmington which i still have a hard time to say because when i was when i was doing belmont basketball games wilmington was not in the middle six leagues so i barely know where i barely know where it is so there you go shots and angles and everything of course jeremy's usually hard at work directing the whole affair and look at that wonderful score bar at the bottom of the screen i mean my goodness we've got logos we've got colors we've got a clock running i mean we've got a shot clock march so that's good news well probably some hockey coverage in there as well i don't know if they have the same preseason hype but there will be some hockey coverage on the beach a sports t v as well i know it's a little a little different trying to you know get coverage on the b m c channels throughout the winter sports season and go marauders hopefully i'll be a lot of state tournaments coming up in a few months so from that let's move along here a lot jump right into of course the  patriots and in fact why don't we start really quick here we've got the n f l playoff picture specifically the a f c patriots certainly got themselves in the driver's seat and we're going to get to everything that happened in that win over the steelers on sunday but you know the fact is what will again we've got the playoff picture graphic we'll bring that up in just a moment and tell you about where the other patriots current stand with the wind they've vaulted themselves from what could have been a potential made into the driver's seat in the a and right now are tied with the steelers at eleven in three i think that graphics out there somewhere i keep call we can if we can bring up that full screen shot there it is ok they want to drop our father we go looks good yes i took a little time to create this graphic on the wall showing up on your screens but patriots are tied at the steelers eleven in three a thanks to that big win down at heinz field last week and they stay a game ahead of jacksonville at the patriots lost that game that would've been tied with jacksonville a tenant for in jacksonville actually holds the advantage over the patriots in terms of conference record so if patriots and jacksonville finish tied at the end of the year and pittsburgh was the one seed jacksonville would finish as lead but right now all the pictures have do is without you see their final two games whatever you can agreed to and then he's more looks easier to trade because if i'm like san francisco francisco's leverage other than franchise i don't know yet so so he gets francisco for next quarterback with back to back three hundred yard passing game since jeff garcia in two thousand and now we will go to there there it is sunday that was the last play of the game duran harmon getting the interception the eleventh of his career and many of those seem to come at the end of games to sort of a clincher put away wins for the patriots he's sort of the unofficial nickname the closer monks does teammates because he does seem to get he's always seems to be in the right place at the right time at the end of games to get that interception to help seal the when you know there is that and in fact all three players and i just keep that shot up for up you know it always happens i was about to say from left to right now compiler to ron harmon eric row all involved in the final sequence of plays that were instrumental and even though the patriots defense as a whole is paper thin their secondary thankfully has remained in relative good health all year and they're going to need of the photo we just saw of the end of the game or do we want to talk about the the play a couple plays before that the jesse james touchdown not a touchdown of course you know he isn't that he's a famous bad guy so maybe he didn't deserve to get a touchdown you know the  ticking down super bowl forty nine in arizona you know clocks running bell a check member he let the clock run let pete carroll make the decision patriots when called timeout just let the clock run and they kept running and running and then you know obviously we know how this play ended it ended with this iconic shot malcolm butler who is now set to make a huge contract next year largely in large part because it happened like but not him right but that's another story for another show we'll talk about that during football hot stove but right now it's also third down here now another thing to keep in mind actually here's another big difference super bowl forty nine seattle was down by four points they had to score a touchdown you know the pittsburgh steelers were down three point slam play and then takes off for sixty nine yards down to the ten yard line so right there i mean you and i as we're watching that game how we were going well i mean at the very you know you want to go with saying no but right i'm prayin that pittsburgh just settles for the field goal we got over time and that's like the best case scenario right that's nothing's going to you know because otherwise you know rosberg going to throw touchdown the going to win the game there and in fact it looked like they you know back to jesse james the man we're going to jump around here but that it is it's really amazing try to break down these final seconds so ok let's go to the jesse james play get here it is let's talk about this like you said how we he got jobbed right i mean it's dives over the goal line it looks like a touchdown he hits the ground the ball moves and of course by the n f l rules that is officially not a touchdown right you know but why why is that the other rule is that the ground can't cause a fumble but remember in this case and that's your point though how you know i guess a good job didn't get job the rules the rules no i'm no use i think you were kind of i think you just basically you kind of explained your dismay over the rule which you know i probably would agree with i think you know we're both watching that live and that right but is of course the officials in new york said the ball did or the ball did not survive the ground which is going to be the new catch phrase i think for twenty eight seen apparently the survive the ground and in fact if you go to the n f l rule book article three item  one it says here if a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass with or without contact by an opponent he must maintain control the ball until after his initial contact with the ground whether in the field of play or the end zone so he must maintain control of the ball once he made contact  there was a little bit of boggling there and of course probably one of the more famous instances where this play came so for wishing and let's go back a few years n f l playoff game between the cowboys in the green bay packers dez bryant goes to the ground he looks like he has a touchdown but the ball pops looped the touchdown away but once again that was a play where we all thought it scored a touchdown but this this rule this kind of you know i mean this is this is the hard part about this rule belichick throws the flag out there that's not a catch and then they go to the booth in new york or wherever they do it and the guy loses not it's not a catch i don't think it's a cap but there would have been a rule to church why would he have said that you know that but the folks in new york go by the rules the rule the law here the written  point why you you think it's a good thing that the rules they're going to reset the fight would match the rule takes it out of the referees in new york decision it makes the tight end the receiver catch the ball he could  thousand and i just think it makes it black and white this is why i think that's why this rule is there and why a lot of fans might be up in arms about especially you know obviously it's sunday night and the pittsburgh fans were up in arms cowboy fans were up in arms a few years ago a score and yes so i mean they've done this before and obviously it's something to get this goes back to how the pages have won their last two super bowls they won this game the same way paying attention to the wills everyone likes to make fun you know around the country who are patriots and like to make fun of the patriots for for doing that or you know whatever it's like all why do we bother coaching this but you know there's a couple things going on there with the steelers on that last snap i mean there's the chaos where half the players don't know what's going on and back to your point flew you mention you know those pittsburgh players didn't run up at i guess is where i was going to stop you and say if they all were in that play go back to that just one more time i want to show the snap one more time if those players at the bottom of the screen if they run up there when wrong to flex the pass i ok let's get back to where i brought this up before it's its third down on that spike play and the steelers are down by three points there they got in field goal range because of the sun so they only need three points they did love to get seven rosberg thinking to himself you know what i really want to get that touchdown because they just that touchdown away we should've gotten that jessie j so maybe he's think because of the fake spike i want to do that but you know but then of course he also claims that his coaching staff told him to he really wanted to spike the ball and he kind of threw his coaches under the bus a little bit right up because he said well the bench told me that they wanted to do the fake spike play he didn't want to run that play itself he wanted to clock it and then they would kick the field goal you know taken their chances and over time yeah but that's what he wanted to do but he didn't but then there's another part of this ben roethlisberger ok you only need a field goal eric rose blanketing your only receiver who is involved in this play right in  big difference and i agree with you and that wasn't much of the talk i didn't hear any of that kind of talk on sports radio this week but they're coming up with their own so that would be a good topic and that's why i'm glad we're talking because it is i i'm with you i think that steelers are going to be a force if they have to come to gillette stadium and i know all the struggles and you know brady's now what eleven three lifetime against the steelers and you know and i don't think the steelers have ever want to be here with ross berger and so yeah there's a whole bunch of issues the other issue that could come into play i mean the a chips like six weeks away tony brown who got hurt in the game and of course he was involved in the in the other fourth quarter here is the injury i guess he has a torrent calf muscle he's going to miss the rest of the regular season they hope to have him back to the playoffs but it's a i guess it's a partially torn you don't know for sure what sort of health he's going to be and i mean he'll certainly enough if he manages to be able to rest up to the a f c championship game similar is will get there then yeah maybe but that's i don't get not a given there and he's a big part of their two to one it ended up being closer than it was like thirty five to twenty four or twenty five but it wasn't it was a lot of that it was but it wasn't and a lot of that came in the first quarter actually was what byrd seemed to have a lot of control but it was weird after the patriots touchdown away what are the and you know the past like you said they throw past here we're day and he's not able to get out of bounds that's probably not the right play to run there because what if it's make the tackle they keep in balance which they did they should have probably tried to run a pla that would have taken the receiver to the sideline out of bounds clock stops i mean again just you know they didn't they had time to script out that or play calling there in you know that final sequence like you said they have the patriots did exactly defensively what they wanted to do so yeah so it worked perfect you don't let's back up to prior to that last drive by pittsburgh you know the patriots not only did everything right that they wanted to do defensively how about the prior drive you know dave you mentioned before plays i was like you were going to say the four plays the patriots ran off their  but every time he did a big play and yes there were times he was facing suppression or from the steelers seals got to a few times but you know once again brady came through and grunt came through the crowd was held pretty much in check in the first tap and second half brady kept going to him in the steelers had to know here or buffalo who has made the playoffs since one nine hundred ninety nine and is right now kind of on the cusp of maybe getting in as a wild card with a dare take the chance to try to take out brought when there are more important things that and for that team other everyone's mind that looks like it's a pet but do they ever call it they don't call this they don't call the running and you do this now they'll call like push and then catch what if but they won't call this you know if they just that but if you're in an open area and you do this and then catch the ball yeah that's that should have been a penalty i don't i'm not i'm not if they called it i wouldn't disagree with it which a lot of specially pittsburgh fans don't like they thought jesse scored a touchdown there and maybe eventually this rule might fade away because if we turn the clock back fifteen years there was a another rule that allowed the patriots to win a big game a much bigger bigger filled here and what do we think these last couple of games are they going to i mean at this point now because of that when the way they were able to win that game and everything i mean i know people are talking about buffalo this week and i've just come tried overnight in the course of the the  good that you kind of have him stored away use been like in bubble wrap your these last eight weeks but how about this stat the last two games miami and pittsburgh patriots on third down three so i hope for eleven against the dolphins they were only three for nine on third down and of was the yankees or it was the broncos or the dolphins or the or the montral canadiens or the los angeles lakers what did you hate about all those teams as you know rooting for boston they could never put those teams away those teams always found a way to come back to pittsburgh in this game on sunday i mean you know they never got up to scores on the patriots as well as they had been playing and kind of dominating large stretches of that game they could never search you know they could never take a and happy new year we'll see again next year