five one seven five seven one and if so i guess  very relevant and to the issue of litigation privilege once i'm done with that i'm going to talk about the litigation privilege because there was a california case that where you didn't mention the the litigation privilege and tell your ability from any type of escrow there's been no notice before that now all the sudden they're still in mr solve and we need to know tomorrow what the amounts going to be there was i think fair to say at that point a great deal of stress on both parties mr the money needed to know the amount in order to be able to get the money necessary to pay the debt and also to clear is probably his property to allow for an additional oh mr karr has had a great deal of stress as well he was concerned  i file a full satisfaction of judgment i will lose my right to attorneys fees and the right to request attorney's fees for the appeal that was pending at that point both attorneys on both sides feeling the stress commenced writing letters back and forth trying to work through these issues and keep in mind again the short period of time available they worked on it and you'll see the letters in the record they worked on it for a day the next day it was new year's day and then on the second they commenced the letter writing process again at that point the letters reflected in the record the letters reflect that they had reached a consensus at least in principle that they would sign a stipulation that would allow for the attorneys fees issue to be preserved but things kind of died at that point i think most of the money would take the position they lost the financing for purposes of this appeal but we're going to go forward with that presumption things we didn't begin on january twenty eighth on that day there was  kerns attorney pointed out i still haven't been told why my numbers are correct that's number we stand by mr the money then did what he could have done all along he sent the pay off to cars in this case by wiring it to and songs on it whether or not you can there's actually provable harm nonetheless the violation produces some sort of table of you know fairly in fairly minimal amounts or we're talking about the california statute that imposes a minimal supreme court after the briefing closed and we sent a letter to the court i'm sure you've received it the regime versus colon case and in that case the california court addressed the issue of litigation privilege on a collection action that case was importance of allowing attorneys to be able to go forward through the litigation process without the concern that either they or their clients are going to face an ancillary action arising out of the proceedings in the case when it talked about the claims cause them harm we're communicating issues the first one was the communication back and forth between the party regarding the amount of the judgment this is the money you are giving me the wrong amount of the judgment and by doing that you are subject to damage already future litigation down the road because you didn't give me the correct amount but i think in the review of the record will show the attorneys you know in a way you're anticipating the issues in front of the district judge in here i think trying to get me to the point of saying well right or wrong on the merits which the judge didn't get to the only thing the judge got to understand i slap was number one the behavior in gauged by your client is protected behavior under the and i slap statute everybody seems to concede that and then the next question is is there a good enough chance of prevailing by masters the monitor that the suit should be allowed to go forward or should i strike and he says listen there's a little not chance that he might w that i'm not going to strike at this point and as the twenty six he says the state's a cause of action but we haven't gotten to proof so those are the two questions in front of us but the question of whether or not he's going to prevail that's the and he responded to that initial the second order and then in the opposing points in an opposing brief in that case this case before this court it has not been addressed his failure to address judge white's failure to address it alone was not cannot recover on the merits thank you i mean any further questions from the panel and at this point no thank you mr the money my cousin amon  settlement on some other my matter and and they contract also called for mediation mediation and arbitration