any public input on solid wast for us that's one of our highlights of our day right not just taking the rubbish but going shopping and so that we know that didn't meet e p a standards and there's a lot of work at the county did to fix but there's a lot of discussion that came up i believe i think even our only automobiles so that if i hopefully i dress that correctly for bigger i can't comment on exactly what they do on the big island but i believe that there's pacific standers that the county follows in managing our solid waste facility or  landfill and from what we kind of heard that there's there were issues with us doing not the question came up that that there are other other jurisdictions in the state that they do have those types of things so that's what that's why it came up as such ok so that ties the junkyard to action eight point four zero point one two a take it or leave it station right is that what is that what i'm saying but i don't see the thread continued through the policies how did you guys do that  ok so the take it or leave it station that is a system substance of what we're talking about and it ties back in to marshall's i think point where we look back on p g twelve policy number three and four conditions the talk about phasing in the additional cells in the solid waste facility landfill date for cell five is two thousand one thousand but cells six is two thousand and sixteen and it  or the way they're positioned they're numbered one is going to go in before the other it's not a typo this came directly from d m and basically the way it was described to me is it's based on the scope of work involved and when they were able to sequence the project thank you  page eight dash twelve item policy number eight explore the possibilities of developing a cradle to cradle recycling program can you define that back that's correct marshall is cradle to cradle is there are some companies that when they manufacture goods and they are distributed out to wherever they are the consumer buys them that there is a program to recycle them back to the source not necessarily cradle to grave so we're not necessarily taking a bunch of you know stuff and then disposing it into our landfill the plan is there's companies  could be a car manufacturer like b m well b m w for example and they recycle their vehicles or it can be an appliance manufacture that takes those appliances back and recycles them and there's plans for that so it was exploring those options for more possible to reduce the the impact on our landfill as regard to solid waste dumping any more input on solid wast the point five transportation any public input on transportation at that was to support the expansion of the air services to meet the needs of the island whether they be for the residents whether they be for tourists whether they be for whatever the needs of the island are moving forward i don't think the intent was to expand the airport into an international airport that could handle flights direct from the mainland it was we made it so broad that we didn't exclude something that somewhere down the line of residence and people may be able to utilize use plan and we removed that because we never saw it had an opportunity to understand it consider it so that was one of the reasons why we tried to make it simple in general to the continued air services that we currently have versus expanded on th bridges and sites at sites of flooding community and five highways so there's a lot of discussion regarding the current impacts of the state highway due to lack of culverts or other means to where it was necessary s of places that don't currently have bridges a flood out and prevent people from accessing say like a pool a dip or or other areas or pool stream would be an example and there's other other items on regards of the roads where there we identify that they are there actually falling into the fish pond and to build on top of fish ponds etc so you had improving in general that and then also on policy one i know i know you brought that back up this was a that's why says air services i think chair have brought up that there's it included all of the services of support the airport not necessarily flights services at the airport but again we'll just check with rob we specifically did not see them that master airport plan so it was we couldn't we didn't want to say we support the plan because we don't even know what it is so we decided to speak specifically to  the wording of that sentence where that would possibly be the case we would be open to you amending it because the intent was yes to the current highway i have one more question we discuss this in conjunction with the community the stem policy statement community concern as well as other stakeholders i'll give you for one example i discussed that with my with my fire chief right for safety reasons ultimately people want to so if there is a need for a round at least my input is that that that's something monies where that is currently i am not quite sure i do know that the community groups on the i have met i know that may be able to share some background on that  because there was testimony that was provided to the state on that so i think whatever we do needs to be something that the community wants not something that they don't when you look at the process there occurred last legislative session it was representative that actually attempted to move a measure there identified as a logical i actually would like to be called a motion to remove policy number eleven and just to make clear so that the commission the other commissioners so so the intent of taking this all the way i look at it is if we agree to support a feasibility study then we've agreed that it's necessary feasibility study and the best place to have them is kamel or the best place to have them is to call then all of a sudden you've given the program guys one reason to see it all this money has been done already stay going jump on the on in our whoever we were and i think that was what is so wonderful two things what is so wonderful allowing the community to go through the process versus we all really love each other in this community and if we eliminate government sometimes from the initial just sit down talk story in the us hash this out we can actually come to the keyboard will a real well thought out plan for our future and i believe speaking life into our community i believe that we've been made out to look like we always complaining with each other but that's not the truth we all love where we live and i think if given the opportunity to just work it all on our self or we could we can come up with a plan that can be good the second thing is has this unique ability and i want to really spiritual person saw it limits last to the stuff that we can do and where we need but right now i just think for our community to be in one good way we need to eliminate any idea that this commission support it one way or the other and that we are allowing the community to make that decision shantelle i just have one question do you think we should decide this now or wait until we're in on the east stand and listen to the community because we're going to go back and through this i think it for me personally it would be good to have some community employ so software me i feel like taking the feasibility study off the table doesn't mean you taking the idea of the ball room off the table it just means that we're not in support of spinny any taxpayer dollars to figure out whether or not our feasibility study warrants us needing a harbor another another passage or another port and saw i don't think it's saying that the or at least i wouldn't be able to support encouraging one feasibility study at this point  we have a motion any more discussion one two you guys can discuss it because they all tie in together so you can address that maybe more efficient for you guys i think i would so i'm not too sure but i think i would amend my motion to include removing policy number eleven on one line and also action item eight point five point one t any more input on the commission fifty any more commissioners anything else and transportation eight point six energy any public input on energy three point six point zero five where you say encourage the use of electric vehicles you know if you computer it costs more to operate and electric vehicle than it does to put gas in a car i mean it's so i was wondering why you were doing that i can charge it from the pack i think i don't have much to add to what it says on that action there are people who have electric vehicles we know those charging stations exists throughout the county  electric vehicles but i know that's a kani possible policy that were we we take into account to reduce our fossil fuel use i have nothing to argue about that ok anybody else got comments on energy commissioners eight point seven telecommunications any public input on telecommunication yes we can close public testimony until the communications commissioners any input on telecommunications again the overreach of government we're looking at on page  twenty five my nine policy six require telecommunication providers to expand the coverage and provide more reliable service throughout the island and it's a little bit of  overreach come to find out the last time i had that dish installed we we represent a very small portion of a percentage of the market and they go where the money is and we don't have a lot of money before the commission and so there are really and a lot of times what we do is we put the requirements that we need in the special or conditional use or  conditions in their permits and stuff like that and i just think if you can come to my brain and you know charge the same amount for your monthly fees as you do everybody else then we should be given the opportunity to is to ensure that they don't have an adverse effect on our community that they don't do something wrong most of them they're not of disturbing archaeological sites et we don't put a level of performance as a business as part of want to work conditions of permitting granny we would like to have better service but that's going to mean more towers and so to increase their service area rather than requiring it as a permit process we don't put that same requirement on other businesses to single them out i think it gives overreaching as a body maintained are not reliable even though we get charged a fee from that particular company and so people oftentimes rely upon their cell service is a primary means of communication and so  know or discussion focused on that quality hey of course you can see this also ties into internet as well so we have and we have kind of at the two part problem so we're allowing the cell towers to be to be permitted  my opinion is if they want to do business on molokai they provide a reliable service to our community and that's just my opinion and so i would imagine that the required part i know that our chair and other members felt very strongly about this so i would assume that's how that word got in there if you want to take  out to encourage them and that's more appropriate and i can argue with you about that but i believe this is a actually a public safety and equity issue it ties into our economic growth that ties into our public safety it ties into so many different days i mean communications and how how remote our community is and how i mean i would want to say ninety nine percent of the rescue calls that i go on at work are via cell phone and you know you doing this you know  additional towers and such just trying to figure out how we can make that better someone to do something it may have been something that it was over but then again is is it a requirement can you require a company to to do that so with me putting in of courage i think would probably be an appropriate step as well and as far as your other question was there any thought into mitigating the effects of increasing the service i think that any effects would be mitigated by current county dead spots because they park in front of my house to use the phone quite in the disturbed by dogs that actually gives us more latitude to which they come in for a permit on the cell towers so k public sillett ease nine point one parks and recreation in any public input on parks and recreation ok i guess we can close public testimony of parks and recreation commissioners parks and recreation for the new g m i i think that we ought to encourage that to also add out of the flood zone possible because where it is right now i mean all new county facilities in my mind should be explored i know this is another controversial matter and i believe that going back to our former council chair as well as our current council representative state secret that there has been discussions with regards to me and that becoming a county park but there is possible issues between the landowner current land owner and what the county requirements would be for that site and i think that came up  testimony and i would want to make sure that's clarified correctly with our council member that they were that the park facilities would be like comfort stations and restrooms and stuff that was not in agreement i believe with the land the the land is not owned by the county currently where the price private property so i'm kind of i'm kind of going some territory that i'm not an expert on but i know it's currently a private property and that that the county does not own that i know there's also discussions with regards to the road it's current alignment erosion issues parking impacts with increased amount of people i mean there's a long list of concerns but i know that i think the thing that the sea pack agree with is that area that beach is something used by our community currently that's very important to our community so i know that the park facility wasn't specific to what but there are county requirements for parks so that that's kind of that's one of those convoluted issues ok there any more discussion on parks and recreation so it's on currently the access that takes place there is it's not public is traditionally kind of informal and formal so i think the concern here was if it would be possible to maintain the public access there through it being a part of the city improving it was also thought so of course that there was no suggestion of making a big park in and doing a lot of capital improvement but i think of the primary concern was the storm drive all the way all you know people can drive all yellow to go to the moorings right the pillars and they wanted to meet new pillars and stop over there and you know on a lot of people you know they're not too happy about that because different locations brought up about potential boat ramp locations so i should disclose to the planning commission that that was cobbled was one consideration that people brought up for a possible boat ramp so also you should ensure that we still won't be able to do that should the ranch decide that they don't want to permit any access except for for access to that place and the exploration of the state favor raise your hand anybody the any commissioner's got any input on the one point two the new police recruits and transfer person wealthy think that's why they send the rookies over here language marshall one thing that you can do to to answer the question that we're talking about that is one nine point two point zero three so we know that the police department has intentions to move their current police station out of the flood zone there was a police station in years ago no longer is a case the issue with the expanded police presence know be adequate to me to community under served areas so that's why it's there so we're not recommending necessary a substation as you can see in the policy but it's a police station in the communities needs any substations would be something that  it is is this plan is a long range planning document that's going to span ten fifteen maybe twenty years pretty you know perhaps the next committee process will have some delays like this one did so what this does is if you're more specific and say you want grea patrols well then when somebody comes in five ten years from now and there's an idea and an opportunity to create a substation then you can't point to something in the community plan that says well this is supporting the community plan but when you say increase the police presence and you leave that open to anything that may be possible in the future you don't you don't restrict yourself to only things that you've mentioned you opened it up to opportunities that may not exist now but may exist in the future thank you there's still no action item to support that policy we point out that there's a lack of police response capabilities on both east and west and  we may not have the population but we get the geography that maybe staffing levels is something that the county needs to revisit so that they can maintain safety of the east and west and so pointing to budgets and pointing to the existing staffing levels is not satisfied with that so maybe yes support expanding yes but let's make it an action item so that we now have a more teeth to it instead of just waiting for the county to say oh we got the money we just take policy number one  the policy as an action item so that it's something we put them on notice not just think about this do something about this is their second go to second discussion the reason there is no action is because that's not our responsibility of the county and we have to keep in mind that the action table needs to be tied to a county function so a policy does carry weight but i have a question then so currently the dog catcher doesn't have a holding facility so he can't even come pick up or at all because there's knowledge that when the ferry doesn't run he doesn't have anybody who can pick up the animals from the plane or if it's what you cannot take him to the county are so used to be able to hold a dog at the humane society but because the land he can't hold in there anywhere so i just went through this like a couple weeks ago there's no place for him to hold a dog so so typically you gotta hold on to the dog t he can make the arrangements with the humane society on the other side to pick up the dog which is only usually shit on the ferry so so my question is if if this is not a colony we can't do anything then what's the sense of having a dog catcher on my thoughts exactly either he stops collecting doesn't always mean for one person now that actually doesn't have the facilities or the things resources he needs  position which we know we need it does anyone from c packer call it an answer to this because i remember this with a large discussion from public testimony during the pac this is where this came from  the information is brought up with regards to the holding at the humane society did come up the fact that we know that that's not supposed to be happening at the public space yard and it does it is an issue but as tony department brought up this wasn't something within our jurisdiction the manimal control part is within the mind police department but the actual facilities where the animals are held is something different so for us to require that action of a private entity with wasn't something we can do so the issue would be that in the policy in the issue and the policy hopefully would encourage the humane society and if they do wan relocate and they and they want to get that capability and we do know they receive county funds to run so i know the lot of the discussion came up and you know davis would be someone to talk to about that  you mostly just picks up roadkill humane society so they hand them off to the main society yeah i think i think the part here that tried to make it which is important is it is a very good example on the planet if of where there is no lead county agency for an action item to require than a private company to do that for a private entity organization even to any geo nonprofit to do that if we know it's connected to the police department so there is that there in lies our issue in our policy and that's i believe the discussion we had we were we got stuck on this ourselves this is how i know the issues we caucus with dogs are biting and chasing the kids down the road so we call and he comes to get on but he doesn't have a place to hold them so you saw the recommendation is to pull them out yourself so now we get people shooting each other to dogs in the community because there's nobody to call in and he's richard is super good at what he does but he's he's limited to what he can do because there's nowhere to put the dogs down over here so when the ferries not running on that that particular day there's no way for him to put it on the on the ferry to get it to the humane society so is this can maybe we should just table this until we can get more information on it because i'm thinking that it would be as easy as including it as an action item that says support the implementation of holding facility for animal control or something like that on the island and that impede the would be the lead agency and county of maui would be the partner since it is under animal control so my question would be how is that different from the policy policy only talking about holding facilities and where did you add no also you're seeing that we cannot address the holding facility problem because our policy on action because we cannot regulate a private entity to do a understand how what the action is going to do that the policy doesn't already do policies just saying something you really like to do and that's how you get to designates people who are going to do it so we need to stay within the realm of reality do it with the raging dog somewhere that they can pick up he doesn't have to keep it in the best he struck the whole time till tuesday when the ferry comes and then send it on the bill to humane society i honestly don't have any more clarification for you here as gre said this was quite a bit of a discussion with at sea pack and it was recognized as an issue both with how it's currently dealt with in the county there isn't an entity that holds the animals as we stated on maui the humane society does so we'd be happy to if you want to make a recommendation will go ahead and you know do that and we can research it more we were just informing you  discussions that did happen regarding this issue because i think what we could do is on the partners you could list the humane society as a partner and at the very least it would encourage somebody to do something and if they couldn't do it paula is that because where they are on department of homeland which is feasible for them because they can't afford the rain in and you know being over there that's kind of where you could put in there having a hardship to be able to do hold the dogs and put them out and you know all that kind of stuff so maybe this will help the humane society in collaboration to acquire land or get somewhere else where they would be would offer it and be able to serve the communities any more discussion on it all in favor you know the unanimous it's best on page nine or so years encourage state hunting safety courses in development of the shooting range yes but when you come over to the action items it looks like know this is a good idea but it's under the police and it is something that maybe we should be you know encourages it is a private enterprise rather than the police taking on my experience previous misfile you worked for bill to a shooting range the police took it over basically there was like they schedule their shooting hours they scheduled their neighboring friends shooting hours and you could possibly get in an hour every other month so you page ninety seven number eleven encouraged eight hundred safety courses which are good in development of a shooting range but that as coming under the police purview it kind something that we added as an action for that reason the spars the shooting range again it's a it's not a it was it wasn't it's not a public facility where the police run it for the government runs it so all we can do is create an issue and a policy have the same question for the shooting range because i think someone i recently bring up lowrie and that is correct on one of the concerns is that the officers go up to the keep to area slash choli near the golf course and they shoot over that is no there's no range for them it's just a traditional place to go shoot so the idea was to hopefully have a range of stock of so that can be done as well as other people because we know people citing guns are the kind places we know the spots so why do we make it an action item and police are one of the partners so that they can make use of the facility but we like parks and recreation or somebody else like that maybe bring in some county funds to see that it actually happens because you can we can lease land we can get the experience of because it belonged several of the the best run by a club but you've got to have some land and you've got to have maintenance money the issue with policies and action items there doesn't necessarily need to be an action item attached to each policy the reason for that is a policy is something that we can support of an agency whether it be a state agency a federal agency a private landowner a private entity an ngo plus a private public partnership type of thing though what that does is let's say if in a community plan if the if a private landowner wants to go in and develop the same ok ranch want to go in and develop a shooting range and they would do it on their private land well then they could go in there permitting process and plant to the community point to the community plan where it says support  shooting range and so although in the policies the policies would allow us to help support things that are necessarily a function of the county and action item has to be constrained to a function of the county so there won't necessarily always be an action item for policy but the policy gives us again that broad ability to be able to support something that the community has decided they want to this community plan but it may not necessarily be a function of the county thank i want to comment on mr coote it goes testimony because he made a perfect point his bringing up the possibility of for example there being a subdivision proposals that might let's say possibly threaten or take away the existing range this is an example where if you have a policy not an action item because the county can't control this but if you have a policy in the community plan and of course this is all hypothetical then when it comes time to fighting and making sure that range stays there you can show and say the community plan supports this range so that that's an example of where you can you know this is the values graig and robert were saying these are the values what the community finds is important so you don't necessarily every single time have to have an issue a policy of action because again this is a county document and it's what can the county do in the county can control yes there are some state actions dealing with health dealing with education and some porton for the county to encourage and support but in this particular case just because it's a policy that doesn't mean it's not important doesn't carry weight it becomes very very important so thank you for your comments so with that being said marshall maybe it needs to be put into economic development as a recreation you know i mean there might be a creative way to get in it is public safety there is but one of the things i brought up there is generations of guns passed down that are not registered if it's on of the police of the police if there were i just you go police section but it's in there and i agree it's in there it's stated it can be pointed to and say the county supports the the construction and continued operation i'm ok ok i just want to make one comment and really not going to change anything but i want to i want to thank you for being here and i would encourage you as the commissioners as you go to other places to make sure that people realize that they're here because they believe in their community and because they want to help the process and they in no way shape or form have to be here and i think that's something that not everybody that comes to these meetings realizes and and that's of value to you all because they can address some of the things that you will have to say so as part of o e d and as a citizen i just want to say that that i appreciate them being here and being able to have this dialogue with you all but i think as you go to the next communities it's very important to let people know that they're not here because they have to be but because they are vested in this process thank you and and you know what we totally appreciate them too but i think that what it shows even mourning that is that greg and rob stand behind what they've done so yes they don't have to be here but i would so when nine one one dispatches emergency services to a location it's according to the team plenty times it's not listed as lot numbers it's not listed and so there's a confusion the beautiful part is we have plenty more people this but it's awesome but what happens in urgent situations are disaster situations is nine one one dispatches removed from the scenario and a lot it's just hasn't been a success for easy easy effort so i was just wondering greg if there was a way or where that would and the only reason why asking for fire is because traditionally and i know only on camera but fire has always been the community oriented easily accessible people to sit at the table and address concerns like this and they do take center comment during these asters and emergencies and stuff like that so i just want to well so i can go do the homework and remember where we put that then i thought we brought it up having premises identification it one of the things about it is premises again if it is is the law enter those addresses we have issues of computer programs where the maps don't line up in the addresses or in the middle of the street i mean it's a lot of issues and i'm sure that everybody here including you guys on the planning commission would agree that when i when one is called that we know exactly where we're going and it's not just knowing where we're going from the station it's being able to find that location when we get there and so i agree one hundred percent i just i thought we had something in here and if we don't then yes maybe so i do little ok so i don't know what would be cool about this is that if we can implement it in here i do know the n p bonnie and the police department have been trying for a long time to do this so it may be as simple as just supporting them so meanwhile we can go top story with her between between us and in just find out what's being done so that we can support for it  ok on your sheet of recommendations from the planning department there are two items pertaining to this section fire and her to not duplicate and be concise in the nine point three point zero three and policy two is a duplicate of action one point three point zero two and how they're written here is policies they really read more like actions as i said in the spirit of being concise and to the point we would recommend the actions remain in those two policies are deleted second sentence in the action evaluate the results of the standards of coverage report and address recommendation recommended fire service needs thats an action the policy essentially says the same things so the action carries the weight and then same with policy too it's covered in action nine point three point zero two so would be our recommendation to delete it to policies since the actions are there if there's something i'm missing graig let me know that's on your machine heights up on the height so or what we don't understand you know he didn't come over to check if there is any combustion material they're going to cause fire and then just by so planning commission while this is a fire prevent program kind of question that does tie into policy number three we're encouraging programs or projects that dress the fire risk affected in the communities so the fire prevention program fire department that the chief has oversight over in that program there is our fire code and there are in our county code which is includes a fire code there are standards with regards example thirty feet one hundred feet are would have been determined by the fire prevention officer from of of what what was needed for the property and the consideration has to do with you have to do a set back from a building it could have to do with the windward versus leeward side of the property in regards to risk is usually how those numbers work but it is a program there are in the authority from the county side comes from the  fire department primarily because they can issue citations typically if there's a issue that we have operationally where it's not a normal inspection we will contact police and also refer to the fire prevention bureau for follow up citations that the fire department issues go through a normal typical judicial proceeding with what's what's filed so that that question could be answered by contacting mo sensitivity and i rather work with you on that then you know and in the spirit of fire wriston seeing that we have jurisdiction and why homes that's a matter for our county government officials are above my pay grade and  what they're not supposed to do i'm doing what they're not supposed to do that would be enforcement and public education both of which were a capacity of our prevention officer that was assigned that however i think that if i can try to address it the spirit of your comment is what's more important we have to understand that fire risk is a real problem we have to understand that what we do on our properties or in a large body of land impacts our residences for example puts us at risk and if we don't take care of our properties we are we can contribute to the spread of fire that impacts others and becomes a civil liability matter i mean we have fire insurance and things of that nature but you know one of the one of the most common problems along those lines would be a while and fire we have a community that has not taken proper brush there not voluntarily compliant enforcement was not an option and as a officer i have to choose if i'm going to safely be able to protect at home or not versus write it off and i think a lot of people in our community doner stand that they don't understand that i have to pick a winner i can't pick losers and i can't answer to my fire chief or the community if i try to protect a loser and lose a winner right there i mean it's kind of a simple concept right and those are tough decisions that one day we hope to have to make but is a reality so that's why code enforcement and public education is so important and so if you felt it was necessary to encourage that in this plan then i would i would see that that would be something that you would determine was important  page nine dash ten lines thirty two to thirty four delete policy t yeah ok looks like that would car i think we need to go over each recommendation not just sort of so that was the whole point was that you got to take this home i don't think we have time in a public meeting to go over each individual section but ok so i just  have i don't disagree with anything and the only the only concern i have and is what like we had one neighbor for a while who was hawaiian and he used to cut our bananas and pick our flowers and he said that those were his rights because he was a native hawaiian and so i have no problem passing this but i mean sure private property rights be respected and and that gives need to for it's a bad rap i would say this an unusual in one a response that didn't need to be responded by you were not crossing over what is private property rights goal he planted the tree and he's actually watering yet why i would hope that the officer why and affairs were due some outreach and clarification in that department because i think there's some confusion what i love the document it and i read on several times is that it doesn't have any emotional or it's not a document that present and we be very specific to what they want within the confines and we don't have a legal counsel here next week but the truth of the matter is this is the first real legal information that we've gotten since we started first i'm just a little confused why we're not finishing chapter nine chair we've jumped ahead to guide them on the agenda chapters on previous meeting yes it does but it also there is an action that refers to chapter six which we have not covered so we wouldn't you wouldn't be able to vote on that recommendation so we have not finished chapter nine i would recommend that you focus your time on that if you want to continue the meeting tonight and also i mean there is quite a lot in here i would really want to understand if the members have all read this and all agree and want to blanket lee i accept it and we do have we have we've reviewed it thoroughly and we have some comments and recommendations on specific recommendations the planning commission assuming that it actually went to the planning he partly but i can't verify it so now we are rapidly moving to the second phase of the overall picture of the community plan so i felt that we were kind are running out of time knowing that by march we're looking at this so whatever additions can come out of the planning commission from c pac as an outcome so i felt that we were running out of time and i had it and all the staff hadn't heard from the planning the parliament so i was a witness certain areas that people have fried food discussion that you have and you've been able to utilize to to see pack people that have been readily available to interest some of their decision making that took place during represent native hawaiians and that this only reflects their comments as that of florida and being provided with with their review of the minutes and look at the document itself because the detail of what they were looking entity versus personal interests between one personality versus the other personality fester because in reality the outcome not going to have these things that would give jurisdiction to speak on acknowledgment in the report itself it's going to be very difficult for the community to have a sense of comfort and i just didn't want to get into the heart of it to who said what l everybody contributed and i like that process because you folks are going to be held accountable at the end as part of the end product so that's why i try to go this morning and i'm and that's all i was trying to track because we have a very good process before it can become an official testimony of there was some talk about including the different meetings with input to be testimony i checked with the staff and with that cannot happen because they're not going to revisit this and try to go through the input so this testimony will stand as a representative testimony of come back next round and see what you can live with what you cannot there but not to address it since november is is alarming my internal i get nervous i think you cre comments and i want to assure you that when we receive this in november the whole panel john wasn't at that meeting but it was passed out of the november meeting we did go through it in detail we did review it in detail and we spoke to our director about it at this point in time it is seven thirty six we have not finished chapter nine because it does raise a lot of issues throughout the entire plan and some of those we haven't got to and we can't discuss by next week or the next meeting we will have all of this we will have our director i will be general be back and core counsel will be here so my suggestion as when is that when we have the time and a director and core counsel because we have that are making the recommendation is it's ok if we there is to answer back to her within she will need time to go back to her and get and get back to them where does that leave us you know so so if you guys can see it you will you want to have your comment for all by me and we will be able to hear on and we'll be able to get over with this stuff before the last mean and that's cool because for me this all looks really good i just want to dress one thing and that is you're absolutely right in november it was submitted as written testimony as a rule the planning department does not respond to individual written testimony so we weren't avoiding it we weren't trying to but we took the time and we went through it in detail i have my copy also marked up little stickies so we can provide comment but you believe we had a motion do you want to draw that motion for the ok so let's try and knock out chapter nine you know more  school is located in holy who so to correct that to all the poor a second one bean lie on the same page line thirty two to thirty four sorry no same page line twenty eight to update in roman figures to two thousand and sixteen when there are available so two very minor recommendations one twelve line twenty eight i believe the a moment figures noted here are from twenty four team and to update them when they're available for twenty six favored to make a motion to the changes just that there are three public elementary school monomoy sorry there are four for sorry for and one and one well this is a private charter what this is wrong the fact that they have here is wrong i know but your motion is to cause quality we're trying to work it out right now so the motion is to change to there are three public elementary schools which i believe this came up with regards to the technical definition of the critical access facility does that ring a bell rung in regards to operating that it is a private facility and not a county facility so upgrading it i have to have to go through the all the items but i do believe we talk about having a health care system that meets a community's needs are supporting that but it didn't specifically have an action o think if you look at page nine hundred eighteen the goal will have a comprehensive integrated healthcare and social services system that provides for the community health and well being and we discussed that being  we have a recommendation on cemetaries this section actually was not included originally in the draft update this section was developed from concern from the c pac as far as cemeteries and which kind of came up this came together in the last couple of meetings so that's why when you received it this section was quite small and had some in it so our recommendation on your handout at the very bottom is to complete that first paragraph on page nine dash twenty lines forty eight to to fill in the letter in there so where there was a blank on the number we're not trying to quantify the number cemeteries but we're recommending just same as numerous cemeteries and then at the end of the sentence the community and several private cemeteries maintained by families or churches and i pulled this information together by asking several c pack members who are knowledgeable on this to provide me information as well as  than from d h h l and working with county public works division as far as county maintained cemetery so trying to get the current status for the existing conditions so that would be our recommendation to fill out that first paragraph  anything else old cemetery is budgeted because of the council that does the budget the department of public works to ask for money and the council has not given it to them so i think it is a correct the county department of public works is not budget so governance again is another section that's required by two point zero b and again i'm glad we've got greg and robert here but for the purposes of the community plan and a lot of the concern senator around making sure ensuring that residents were being represented and that they had an opportunity throughout the entire county process governmental process everything from serving on boards and commissions to having access to meetings to i think we've brought up something about televising this section of governance there was a few items that came up i know one of them had to do with them for some reason had to do with the governance of commission the most recent charter commission took that issue with regards to district to district representation and they chose to maintain the current system was not put on the on the ballot there was no testimony that we received that i remember that talked about any type of change to our current system where we have a representative and if we for example don't like what the representative in another part of our county use doing we came choose to vote against that person  that that that's our current system so however is a concern we know in our community that we in their numbers may elect our council member that that's a reality  so that discussion is still their course and who truly does represent us and how that works but our current system gives our community to the greatest voice currently and that's what we we didn't hear anything different than that but we do know that there's other things on here to ensure like you see nine point seven zero four in the back of the county charter it does discuss the minimum requirements for people to serve on boards and commissions  representative of all districts so this was a in the attempt that we know in the past that hasn't always been done and so that was something for example important to make sure that i was the more i did have those you're going make a motion to clarify might be time to adjourn this meeting ok so your next meeting is scheduled for february twenty fifth we i passed out a new schedule the next two meetings will be only hall the next meeting covers chapter land use and housing in chapter seven community design so again we expected to be a full and long meeting one question you do not have a regular planning commission meeting that same day do you have the desire to start this meeting earlier at two o'clock up to you just posing the question ok we just wanted to put that out there to accommodate ok we've been able to secure our that's what i'm saying is you do not have a regular meeting so i was just put it out there if you wanted to schedule this meeting a little bit earlier we've been able to secure a facility on  policy statements will hand this out to you and they've asked that it relates to chapter six so it will be on the next agenda and they are asking that's all pass it out to you and that's all i have  all in favor i would say that would carry