communications from the audience for items that are not on the agenda you can come forward at this time unfinished business and table items development plan review for a twenty four room assisted living facility to be located at seven forty college avenue and a portion of eleven east thirty second street g m b a n e on behalf of arrests even if the applicant and i'm sure i'd be asked to remove from this item for  after following the meeting we had three follow up meetings with the neighbors that are adjacent to the property to to get their input in their buy in to the way that the anything that they could be changed on the site so few of the items that we looked at were obviously the buffer both fencing and landscaping along the north side of the property line between the proposed building and their existing homes i feel like we've come to somewhat of an agreement on the direction of that it's going to be a mix of fencing and landscaping  a few other things air conditioners and a sort of air handling units have been moved from where they were located previously further down the way so they're about forty feet now off the property line to provide a little bit of additional buffer between them so the storm water solution and we had some additional meetings with brian white and revise our solution to make sure that we are impacting the neighbors the solution will incorporate underground storage and then also allow for overflow into the street if committee and just kind of went through some options and worked our way through that first i was just reviewing a few various options that they could they could go after and then refining those options so we've actually met yesterday for a kind of preliminary final landscape plan reviews so public hearing has been closed that if there is new information that it's on the table it's really kind of at the discretion of the chair if you'd like to open it up for comments from the public and i will open that public hearing at this time in regards to the rest even development you have five minutes we have a timer up here there's a light underneath the shelf right here and it will change to thirtieth street behind this this project i can gladly report that rest haven in the neighbors near this project have entered into a community agreement that we are both satisfied with the agreement includes installing a temporary six foot continuous fence with covering to block the noise in site during the construction construction phase installing a high quality six foot tall cedar fence and a dark wood finishing decorative with caps on the posts ongoing communication about the construction including start any delays and what to expect over the different phases of construction planting a ten to twelve foot for trees between and behind the fencing to provide privacy and a natural sound and light bar for the planting of a mix of ten to twelve foot hardwood trees between the fencing and building to provide additional coverage a commitment for the life of the building by rest haven to maintain and vent maintain the fencing and landscaping such as replacing trees if they should die or become damaged moving the air conditioners from points that were closest to the property lines to the wings of the building and updated drainage plan that if constructed and maintained correctly should have no impact on our properties in one hundred year flood or below the neighbors of course will continue to monitor drainage on our properties and take action if appropriate if there is a problem i'm going communication between the neighbors and rest haven after the completion of the project to determine any ongoing problems and address them a commitment to addressing issues that the back neighbors may have with lighting or sound which there is an update on that they have removed all lighting from the back we would like to just take a chance to thank charlie vander brook  is the director of rest haven maple woods for working with us being a good neighbor and really helping us through the grieving process a very big thank you to joshua what watkins of watkins tree pro for helping us decide which trees could be saved in this project and what types of trees would work well in the landscaping and of course your staff member a city planner mark danner plouff are really kind of helping us through like how this process works you have a great staff  who is very caring while we while we are sad that the natural woods behind our woods will be destroyed and a large building will come within sixteen feet of our property lines we are happy that we could come to a suitable community agreement with rest haven we are happy that we could help bring twenty four units of affordable senior living to our community it's anyone else to speak to sign him no i will close the public hearing at this time discussion questions from commission members on plan review for an industrial building addition to be located at four thirty one west sixteenth street craft heinz food company is the  so sense a sense of we first actually submitted this project and everything it has been a whirlwind and craft times everything we are actually working in conjunction with one of our county plants in lehigh pennsylvania unfortunately that plant was tagged through the footprint park project for closing and we among other plans are actually the beneficiary of getting some of their products in there so the original permanent we were actually going to put in addition on the building a process kitchen building and that in the making of the great poupon project product and everything due to type time constraints and everything there is a very good chance that that building may change to a warehouse building in the future we are actually in a holding pattern right now and the process end of the project is actually going to be moving up to the existing third floor of our existing building fifteen processing building that that actually does the pickle processing right now so there's a lot of movement behind the scenes some of this come down because of the tight time constraints of lehi factory having to close sooner than they anticipated so we're having to pick up and move the process as an equipment a lot sooner than we anticipated which put us in a big time crunch to try and get a building actually constructed in time to actually bring great pond up and manufactured again in the facility so it's not what i wanted to say here is far is putting a new building on site and everything we are still moving forward as i say with bring in the product on site it will be still located in existing production buildings and an existing production area in what is now warehouse space and in the future we are teamed up with dan vos construction company as a general contractor and working with a at eight a m b engineering for some of the processing and what we do in the future for our hopefully building seven is likely going to be warehouse and we should know more about whether we're going to be able to do that here in the next month or so give us forty six weeks on that and you will likely see a new permit for that building vos will be submitting new permits as needed for additions and changes to the third floor of our existing structure right now homeowner just a moment do you want this plan approved for this building that you may know you i'm i'm just trying to update you right now with the application that we actually did submit and everything the initial intent of that application was based on our best knowledge at the time with the engineering firm we're working on to actually put a process building in there and do two people higher than us i'll say and a titan timeline that is changing so i think if we do move forward with the permit at that time you'll see new actual drawings and everything submitted under van voss and hines are you with ron i'm trying to figure out what is the proper step i guess at this at this point the question is do you want and i don't want to end it i don't think because we're kind of limbo right now with especially what we're going to have footprint wise for a warehouse if we table it they can submit a new application correct for it is that i'm totally new item  we are still pushing forward as hard as we can as a staff at hines pushing for the warehouse building and that because we are we are taking up a lot of footprint in our existing warehouse to put in these processes now that have to move inside so we are still needed are living in a space right now yes all right so it sounds like you're changes are happening faster than government can move so it might be best for us to approve this and then change it as your changes come in yes and i assure you again that we anyway there is a if you're good we will still hold a public hearing ok you can have a seat and i will open a public hearing time on this item but he would like to come and speak to this no ok i will close the public hearing discussion or questions from commission members or motions microphone i'm still talking support i was in favor all right opposed all right so we approved it amendments can be made in the future correct yeah right thank you very much we're excited that heinz is expanding at the other guys had to close and that you hang in there thank you letter b under new business amendment to the south shore kind of money in development plan located at five forty five crescent drive crescent shores l l c is the applicant the applicant is here and can come forward  see changes yes good afternoon my name is kevin one felt i am the builder a developer working on behalf of the owners first maybe i'll just give you like a quick update on where the project is as you know this is been in front of you for a number of years right now we have one carriage house built we have our eight unit a loft built that's the one that backs up behind into the to the walkway there we have a four unit townhouse that's built and we also have a foundation in for our next building our next town hall so doctor coming out they've been coming over the last few weeks and we expect to have new docs in by memorial day in the pool if we're waiting on a state permit we should have that soon and we'll have a pool in early summer and we're making good progress and yeah having a fair amount of sales so we're excited to be in here and doing this and really what we're doing is adjusting a little bit to the market if you look at our original approved plan you know we had a four unit townhouse this would be on the on the more easterly side that faces the water so we had a four unit and then we had a six unit building and four single family lots what we're finding is the market is there's more demand for the townhouses and so what we're proposing is kind of unique we're asking to come to you and say we know we want to do more town houses we probably are not going to need for lots so we've come asking you for kind of approval to these three different three different options and just to kind of step through these option number one would be  remember the one on the right is already in place so we're we're going to do a another four unit another four unit in a two unit so that would be option one so it's really all townhouses and i think it's important remember these townhouses their height and massing is really not that dissimilar from a house in fact i think arguably from a neighbor you're going to be a little smaller you just don't know when you're doing a single family house how tall and how big it can be so similar or smaller with the townhouses so option one is all townhouses option two shows doing in that space for ten houses and then  bit here will right now we sold three out of four in our first easterly building we have one building one unit reserved in the second townhouse package and you know at some point in the next i would imagine six to twelve months will come to staff and say we'd like to do two three unit buildings or to do you know two so in the family lives and go to the town else it's just really as is market market demand for this but i think the overall tone of the project is going to be pretty much the same there will be one less unit one less carriage house which are on the south side of the project if you look at option three in the other options there are there's one carriage house were originally we had two carriage houses with the four single family lines so that's the quick fly over any questions from your commission members question for stan in my in my recollection i don't think we've ever approved a menu of options on a site plan do we need to pick one i think that probably would be appropriate yeah i mean the applicant is is noted there they would like to get approval for option one that correct devon yes yeah and we never come asking for a menu before either so ok that would be your preferred option but i guess one was that the two single family that's the three to three places ok you know option one is a four unit like we have and then a two unit on the western i mean the one that's up on screen now any other questions from the applicant at this point you know ok i will open a public hearing on this item if you would like to come forward and speak to this you can do that now  what we're doing for drainage is she drain in the side to the edges and then use in the ditch or ditches to take the storm water to the northeast corner of the site so you can see we don't have any sewer structures except those that were built with the dock development so if you look at the front where she did everything to the west and then into the ditch between the roadway and the eastern or western portion of the sidewalk of the really better to drain your strums over and all the pollutants going to get caught in the in the grass before it gets into the stumps or so eventually you get a better product getting to your detention basin than if it goes between the building and the lateral and i don't have an issue with that and the owner doesn't every and issue it out as well and your question the right thank you this requires a public hearing which i will open at this time unless i don't come forward i will close a public hearing discussion clarify would include conditions from the west michigan airport pro story ok we had support all those in favor post right looks good thank you very much for all right letter e advisory public hearing regarding short term residential rentals before we open public hearing on this one i just want to say that we will be doing a we will be forming a study committee and this will take a few months to come up with a conclusion and you can submit letters to the study staff if you have any other things to say about this any other recommendations  help us with that at this time i will open public hearing no one is here to speak on this item i will close of hearing oh ok mark there's all your advice we will definitely do we know the historic district commission has done so yes they are all right requests to rezone one fifty six west eleventh street and two fifty four maple avenue from the artier in traditional residential neighborhood district to the p r t planned ok development plan review to renovate the old washington school and properties located at one fifty six west eleven street into fifty four maple avenue for eighteen residential condominiums associated gerad structured structures seven residential lots and associated green spaces twenty fifteen l c is the applicant for that one as well letter age that kind of money in plan review for seven proposed residential lots located on a portion of two fifty four maple avenue twenty fift candid all with people are up at the historic district commission right now can we can we just hold on with the public hearing open minutes till we clarify how long we're it might be appropriate to just back up and get a reason to be read at the correct yes i need to read all three of them you know just just summarize what we're at right ok letters after g and under new business i have read after your age sorry i have read all of the items we are going to do a combined public hearing on this if the applicant would like to come forward and talk to each of these it would be rezoned in the review and the plan review former washington elementary includes tearing down a gymnasium edition that was put on in the late eighty's and then replace scene that portion of the building with a new garage and parking for the residents plan has changed dramatically from the thirty six units i think we originally proposed we're down to eighteen units with the intent to make those condominium  units we have one thousand garage stalls which with one of them being intended as a enclosed trash room so there will not be a dumpster enclosure per se the remaining portion of the land we intend to do as residential lots some of them will be part of a site condo because of the splits available some of them will be actual traditional lot splits and we're currently as you know  historic trying to get the cia the intent for the building itself is to remove the existing windows there in the they were replaced in the early eighties go back to the original masonry openings putting in a historical window to enhance the appearance of the building so i'm not sure what else you want to hear i did receive the comments from the city i guess the only i think all of them are items we can address a couple that quick ones that i want to address as narrative per the read requirements of section thirty nine i did supply that i'm not sure why that wasn't given but i do have it if you want that yeah yeah i think i saw a narrative  that was there a lot of the rezoning requests but ok so ok well maybe i have to add that i can i can provide that other items reference seen the fence along the back drive alley y there's a request for a decorative wood fence to be imposed tauld or some sort of landscaping plan in conjunction with a chain link we've removed all the chain link on the site with the exception of that back  alley the reason we did not take it out at this point some residents had given us feedback that removal would be very destructive to some of the plant life that's there some people have done a very good job decorating and landscaping around the fence that's been there forever we're willing to do either or historic has asked us also to meet with the neighbors to talk more about that so we're open to either option you know enhancing what's there with landscaping or replacing it with a wood fence item eight there was some talk about the sidewalks being ten foot wide in the green space there too we're not opposed to  that but there's also some discussion with neighbors about some community green space and so we hope we could address that in that portion of the new plan item eleven  talk of the height of the garage is exceeding what's required by the district we had shown a higher pitch to blend in with historic district which we feel is more  common and we've suggested also historic that we're willing to lower that to a five twelve or six twelve whatever is necessary to get that under there was also some talk about hip rough there too were willing to do a hip roof or a gable end but we can meet the requirement of the height i think that was the major items that i thing else seems to be more regular stuff that we can address with staff i believe so any questions from commission members for the applicant just so i'm clear stews the staff recommending a ten foot sidewalk at this point yes we are now that you could potentially change they would have to come back to an amendment process  whole planning for the central green gets further clarified you know there could be the possibility that something different could be done with that but that would require an amendment that would be a staff planning for that would need to come back here same thing on the dream when versus what versus plants that that word right now is is basically saying it's an either  so i mean if you agree with that it's you know they get to do either or the solid fence or they've got to come back with a kind of the a plan that they vetted with a neighborhood that could include  keeping parts of the existing fencing i guess and i guess my concern is is that kind of a pain if they just keep trickling back in here for a few the chain link fence and for as they decide all this stuff there's all amendments where do you guys draw the want to yeah ok so the way we have it we're basically thinking right now for the fencing that would be a staff i don't so i mean you're basically giving approval a developer who can do one or the other staff you've got to do you know you've got to deal with that if you would like i mean certainly the the i don't dealing with the sidewalks i mean that you could say that staff could could make a change with that too if you so desired but i think i think i'd want you to to have that include somewhere in the motion that you're you know that you're giving staff the latitude to to make adjustments and actually that was the one  so if we we were that ten feet then they do something different than there's another public hearing for an amendment of this like one correct yes that sounds to me like a good thing to do in that instance not necessarily over a fence i'm correct  and like you said if anything happens with that part in the p r gate you would have to come for say you anyway so you could delete it change it make it bigger yeah correct how old is a chain link fence i do not know the age but it is generally in good shape i mean it's not rusting that i saw but i really don't know the age g m was from the one nine hundred eighty s yeah it could be  we're talking the north sidewalk there so it was our own for just for clarity's sake that i did something i didn't catch on the sidewalk on the north side is going to be part of the site condominium part of the southern parcel you're talking and i believe that the say that the sidewalk the way it's looking right now is not going to be a part of the site condominium ok that because that's it looks like that would have been in the old eleventh street right of way if it was extended through so i'm going to say that that's that's not a road you have a better i guess yeah i mean we're we're planning to have the green space done one way or the other before we're doing occupancy question is the sidewalk on the property owned by the psychic and him to the north or is the sidewalk owned by the site gunman him to the south to the south or the park to the side of the park yeah ok so you have a conditional houses on development on that side is not going to work timing right but if it's we're talking for far right right now it's drawn a six foot yes you know your margins wondering about the timing of when when is a sidewalk go when  foot is basically for emergency services right you have a regard list of if we make it a condition of the condominiums that are going into the school building and that's not in with the school buildings completed they will get a certificate of occupancy the well we can maybe can we just say that the sheet is going to say we could have some kind of trigger like an aside all the sidewalks have to be in there by the time the first occupancy permit is granted for one of the homes there or even for the first look at the homes that are on don't care to the sidewalk because like you normally do it right ok my point that that sidewalk born was to the school condominium project you can't very well hold that project hostage because somebody hasn't built on those lots of another person to take multiple areas of time to do they can go back with men but do not put the sidewalk in and we can make it conditional on whatever happens to the gre perfect creative nancy's got all that well that's good we're going to be reviewing those tomorrow ok are we going to redo the public a public hearing at this time for all three items letter f g and h if you have anything to say on these items you can come forward at this time we have five minutes and the lights are right underneath the countertop here and old light shines when you have one minute left no one to speak on these items ok i will close the public hearing we will need separate motions on each of these yes i want to move we approve the rezoning w