he required you to do this this law school class by january of this year did you have you done that or we did i don't see anything on the docket sheet i have not done that judge and that's where they have the other part of the problem but he hasn't i don't see where he did anything for your non compliance is not as far as i know i don't know it's not doable i mean how do you get twelve hour ethics requirements from a law school i can see let's see how many programs are not i don't understand that i can't judge that's part of the problem the orders actually impossible there are three law schools and in the metroplex area live in the fort worth area there's texas a and m university school of law there's text north texas which is an accredited and s m u which is in dallas which is north texas and s came electronically we have to paper file every document in his court and we have to sack to drive my office in cleburne texas which is about forty minutes from downtown fort worth at the drive from my office to down now fort worth and physically file all after the fifth circuit had already actually ruled on the on the appeal problem the appeal my client went and i've corrected the sense and even though it still doesn't apply when you get those electronic notices  in good standing with every bar never been sanctioned for pride myself on being can mean having cancer of the court and with my clients for that matter the problem is that i didn't see the orders because i didn't expect to get a order from the district court and i think that's one of the things he was most upset about was that i did not comply with his orders further though but he didn't have in my opinion in the court's opinion the fifth circuit and then he did have jurisdiction issue orders and a long as the fifth circuit did not remand my case back to the district court level doesn't accord always have jurisdiction to consider discipline of a lawyer practices in the quality let's say a case is complete in the district or person pleads a sentence cases done judgments entered and a year later it comes to the district co attention that the lawyer lied on their request for c j finds one i mean even if the case has been over a year can't the court convene a disciplinary matter which which judge which is what happened here he can be open to separate matter i would agree with that and there's actually some case law on that matter and that not of the fifth circuit but that was for actions that took place during the trial what the actions that judgment bride complained about that i had done happened after well after the trial had ended and i well after the appeal have been perfected so i would agree with the court to deal with and forming your client about appeal rights it had to do with had to be after the trial or it doesn't mean he doesn't have jurisdiction judge but the issue again the issue i did make a mistake i did not inform my client that he had a right turn here and i fully accept that responsibility that i should have done that and i did not and that i did not inform i informed him that i was going to with ask the but the sanction that was issued to me was one overly harsh based on on that and and the other part of the sanction was that he found that i lied to him about the about the orders that were issued by him which i did not do and it and in fact once i saw that he had orders i tried to comply with the orders one of the things he complained about in my client complained about was that i did not send him a copy of his file i tried to send him a copy of his file several times eventually i had to get a counselor from the jail where he was being held to and mail it to him because every time i mailed my client this package it kept getting sent back to me for reasons that no one could ever explain to me so the sanction itself is also impossible to actually soon as the is the same as he the discipline was was handed down i immediately appealed so i did not i and i wanted to find out what the court was going to do prior to trying to appease and comply with the sex the other thing to do he removed me from that is correct judge and why would you be allowed to be on the ceiling pam i mean they are the court help you don't tell them their rights again judge and all honesty at this point in my career  rights and i did not but that again the courts have said a sanction under the law should fit a fit what happened and you should it should be in a clear and convincing evidence a bad faith a willful abuse of usual process one of the other issues i think the judge may brought had was that i stated to him that even if i would have informed my client that he had a right to rehearing and he would have told me that he wanted that i would not have filed a motion for rehearing and that still stands true i didn't feel like there was any other issue that the court needed to do for a rehearing on that case but again it goes back to whether or not this or that sanction was adequate and whether or not it was within  it's only for the fourth division i'm only on the dallas to vision in the fourth division i'm not on the other panels so i'm asking the court to vacate the order in this case and