hear you guys the second thing that we want to talk about is this idea of putting together a program director position  bike path or recreation but i think we all realize that it would be hard to pull off quite the project but one of the things that became apparent to us that was it was hard to get a lot of movement talked a little bit more about it we thought we might be able to pull that off maybe i'll give you a few minutes i mean teacher and i want every hand out paper people certain readings to take a few minutes to read through it and then we can talk more about rustiness to to do that stuff during the day right at business hours if you will so part of the idea guy is to actually have somebody who you know if that's a guy you know even if it is part time wor that had any sort of summer programs going had at least a part time people person doing it and you know what you're trying to do with volunteers all couldn't tensions inside probably never happened so that's kind of the stumbling block and the programs as well you want to have this available sometime probably early spring march ish time you might be a nice time to talk about that or put more word out but anyway working back from that puts you somewhere idea of what different how the programs do you know what we can do with the money and budget we have i think the idea would be to start small and use some of the research that's the natural stuff you know the time pond for some lessons for example tennis lessons idea would be that if we could start small and build from there we could probably you get the feeling the success we might be able to build something that either self sustaining or maybe creates a lot of revenue for the way she does it she contacts recommend these that's why she was contacting us and she'd run a program for like fifty five dollars for a weeklong program three hours each morning the kid with end up getting in keeping the racket that you bring she didn't even need to tell us what she just needed a white hard surface somewhere because they didn't even use the net itself at that age and she said typically you know i charge fifty five dollars starting point but i think especially as social media feel like a murder i think if you put the word out people starts to get or either word of mouth or electronically or both my guess would be that there would be people step  well what we'll have to see what we were thinking money wise is what eric has here this december we could cover with our levees money fund and a little bit from that i mean we could probably covered what we'd be looking  good and discuss it go present them selves plenty commission also right yeah i mean you could i mean if this person was wanted to do something like i would just i would almost make it time and be it all the planning commission meetings maybe it's also someone who's just savvy enough to i don't know sitting through every plan commission meeting totally tyson this is you know well if you read the first read the first two it's now but you know you were very casual unsafe casual but they're very open so just to come to any meeting and sit down have a conversation with twenty commissionaire would be totally acceptable you know there are some nights they already yeah right so on we have to time party to another time well they do have a warning sign and speed limit sign on the same post that's as far as i could i think name and probably no better i'm not this tells you that it's going to be a minimum of twelve feet off the with the structure project on pager or i volunteered my time to draw and then to go out and survey the things we've got a plan and he offered to volunteer it's time to do that too so he sent us an e mail or said donna the e mail you copied myself about some different projects and the surrounding areas with kind of projects just like this one let's see did he can you break down this one remember when he was looking at this we're going to we're doing a gravel pit and we stopped in that culvert and he was looking at the markings that they wanted to heinsberg i think one of the way back then the barber farm i was a barber from that was her yeah so we have an exception for professional services in our personal policy or we can hire someone like this and i talk to them more about it and it would come out of the would actually come out of the capital expense for the capital money that we have set aside for that structure to just be part of it but he would want to get a plan together will count up plan will just because it's all part of the capital even though we're doing it for nothing we should add that into what the cost is and what he would help with the design for the r f p and then oversee particulars about this road don't really need to do that but it's a small road and to do a big box cover you need to you know he'd open it wide open cranes need to come in you're going to so much work has to go in just to get in there it's crazy the down fall of the bottom of the block and there's no they're actually have a bottomless body here so but anyway we'll get into that i guess what we want to decide or what we need to know is if how you guys feel are we all feel about possible i have a relationship from the gravel pit and i'm comfortable with his expertise yeah and i feel i just want to make sure that you know we're not just jerking someone here we would put it out  possibly certainly if it was a bigger engineering project that we've got to bid but these small little incidental things it's going to be really hard to find someone you know going to hire an engineering firm coming to do this going house to put in mine but if we did have a big yes he's been before two thousand and nine or up till two thousand and nine he works you know we do a lot for the town and certainly kerry has a application  he comes in they've hired him recently to do some views on independent reviews on projects so i think what we need to be careful of is that we make sure that everybody gets a fair share and i think with the familiarity we have with mike in the familiarity he has with the project in the town i think it makes sense to do without going out and finding looking for other alternatives so in this case i think it sense to we talked about that and maybe possibly some of these as we walked around were pretty sketchy to the old windows the old glass yes you know just all day i mean the farthest i would go was off if we have a place from those windows ok well this is your grand was a piece of the grant that went in for pedro and at the bottom it just shows the four major projects that we have in the capital for this year coming up and we have talked to mike about all these different projects going out with him such that we you know so i just put it in there just yeah and the other would be the sidewalk right now talking about that sidewalk that facing one portion which m you know it's so expensive and time consuming that they've just decided we're going to take on these projects ourselves and do them because they can do it so much it was cheaper so much more like about twenty twenty five percent because i heard jericho talking about the ones in jericho center they did shelter yeah i just wanted to kind of run this by you guys to see if we want to invite them and i forget how long ago now myself brad and  us they're looking to set up red cross shelter centers around the state and what it would require would be for us to be willing to  store twenty five dollars fifty blankets ten serious water signs best it's a whole kit that's about six feet by six feet by four to five feet that's one requirement to store that and have a shelter area that s available then they would need anywhere from ten to twenty volunteers to train those volunteers would have to commit to drill want to hear so they were sending this out to see if we're interested and having either town hall or the underhill central school as a location for a temporary shelter in and committing at that so i thought i'd just bring that up and see what your feelings for and then if we have any interest at all i can invite them in to review you know what it all entails and go over the shelter agreement for do we have any s like you know there's six different locations rather keep her here town and town of the essence has had and that's what they were looking that's why they're coming to us for just those two locations even though we have other locations listed on little not really clear on who has the final say on what happens i think we do like when they want to do the redistricting and we would have to sign over all of that property to luciano who's the person that helps with all the emergency ordination and helping towns get all their plans together and so i'm i'm gave a copy of this training guy to you nouns and we can report that when they do surveys about if we've enhanced our knowledge on the subject we can call that enhanced because you're reviewing it and understanding what's out there in my life so by reviewing  we're meeting that required if you look at the pyramid you can see at the bottom there's an i a s one hundred seven hundred which is just basic those are available online at no charge i think actually taken them both and if you go to the pages attached you'll see i have seen one hundred and then the next page you'll see i have seven hundred and it gives eighty we did the one hundred now we did a to get to that but though the training website under the ios seven hundred is there's a link right there and if you go there and if you change that i have seven hundred to i have one hundred both of those training  and then the other overview for asic executives is the i c s for a two course and that's the course that fred steven myself took over and well as dinner was offered one saturday and it's a very flies the end of february and i put it on the back burner because it has to be done by december all of the road crew is required to take a hazard communication course  by december of this year it's tickets you can take it online through b l c t i have the password assigned and password here so they don't have to come in sit down and take it it's an online nuts set up a schedule for them to or should i just call them and see when they're free and they can come down to you know she's not here it's required that every single person that handles any kind of hazardous materials which includes oil and everything else and putting up a sign you know caution blind intersection has a warning before you get there or put up a mayor or something of that nature i spoke with me and he said there is a new sign it's a yellow  if we have all these meetings here we get the new server i'm wondering if we should put a camera on stream all the meetings right on to our beautiful  history all right so we'll take that up least we know what it is we'll take a look at it ok we'll take it up on the o well as far as just data we have parcel data that we maintain and some other prior torrie information that we maintain that but i don't believe is of public record because it's directly connected with a listers private information regarding people's homes and the rest of the information is all available for monson or for geographic information website all the imagery all the theory or it's all the stream data all that well and data floodplain and that's where we get all that information right now we're doing a gravel pit i use a in our site and yeah the thing i wanted exactly and you can download s files from there from the ross hundred fifty g i all she files are there and that's where we get them through the r p c but really i mean we have it over the parcel data every every time you get data like that it comes with a disclaimer any website you go along you have to clear through a disclaimer before you can access the data and it was totally appropriate to us for a disclaimer and that's that's in our standards and guidelines for parcel data management disclaimer is mandatory and we ran this by our attorney yeah i guess kerry   so the disclaimer is we're that's that's for any one disclaimer is requirement and knowledge when it's required and i don't know if we have that exactly in writing somewhere but it's just it's part of the state i was involved in the the writing of the guidelines and standards for parcel data information statewide and that's included every every map every piece of information you you know made a jump through hoops by signing this claimers not sure that's a standard procedure it's sad procedure but no one asked us for the data but if you were to go on any site that offered that data you would have to go through a disclaimer  why does he feel he is not god yes well first of all the question is all the requests for towns g i s data at the time isn't actually he could probably correct me on this we don't own the g i s data the state does well no no no that's not true through public funds is public information it's all public information we have parcel data that you know several people maintain and  that's also available on the c g i maybe not that absolute up to date parcel data but there that is everything is almost one hundred percent available for free for  is files coverage is whatever you want you know sure why i think why he's going to the town for this den not going to those free said that you're telling me that well i'm not sure if he's aware that those sites i think what i understand there are a lot of confusion in what he was asking for and kerry had a really hard time and there was a lot of  go and get this information that's all available through the state website that takes kerry's time and that's where the feet come that you know something he could download just as easy as she could but she has to compile  he does have that information in her computer but let me tell you about how data stored ok each data is we use g a s software and data is kept in this form in layers and doesn't get all layers we hear if we're going to charge a fee because it's a lot of work to give him that he should get what he's due either he works to not pay if he can go get it all for free or he fee for the ground we charge for land records if you want to map of your property you know we charge for that you know from the g i s so when you're talking about this level you know you're getting all the information or as are these big files so not necessarily big but that takes time so so in this response i think you do stand behind the idea of the fee and the  feed makes sense to charge i think the only missing element that then we can offer is he if he has not received some of the data that he needs he needs to clearly state what debt is missing and that data should be provided to him with no additional fee i totally agree with that i totally agree with that but i want specific what would you like and we could perhaps we could provide a list of what we have you know by just saying all of it but i think we could list the shape  polyethylene pipe various sizes and we want to switch to metal culverts back to metal culvert so we decided to sell part of our talk thousand dollars worth of pipe but then we reduced it by seventy five percent to sell it because in essence and around that we got an offer from the town of shalott to buy the whole lot for eight thousand potential new owner of this property right in this person has the ability to make it right before that and get the property back that's right yeah this person does one complete year  rubber blaise he has the right to yet to reimburse you know what was what it was bought for with interest and regain its property my concern down it's still standing we have the right to go in and remove it and then try to get reimbursed for our costs personally i'm not interested in doing anything like that but that's just my opinion you've got like i said it went for tax sale you got a new person coming in possibly in november they will be you know this runs with the land so for the person who bought it textiles quite a responsible individual so if they did purchase the land i would think that they would tear the structure down to stand compliance but you know when to go up there tear this thing down get rid of it it's going to cost us a lot of money are we ever going to see that money never so and i've read the agreement there was no timeline for us we could do this a year from now sure but it's  saying may first he had told me first so we could table this you know not make a decision until the future to see what the outcome of the toxic price kind of how i feel about it but it's leave our options open case something comes up we can still act on this if we want to or i think this point don't feel the need to act on this and i would certainly encourage him to remove it you know i don't know how we shouldn't maybe we shouldn't take any formal action here until we know a little more about like what you said time right ok that's the right but you know i don't know was this violation of the violation was i wonder if that was that was public knowledge where we it doesn't we also you know otherwise you've gone through all this we've gone through all the options we've gone through all the motions but and i know it's it's these folks that are affected but how would the other tax payers feel about what we're doing here you know and with that four months different owner made the whole place gets all cleaned up so you know i don't know over not paying for the conference but paying for her time while she was at the conference and there's one clarification that needs to be made on whether or not her time is paid for two days of travel or if those two days of travel she has to take out vacations and that has come a sense she was thinking going to the conference getting there and getting back it was all part of her time and she was going to get paid her time she was gone three day conference three full days and a half day and a half day and then she travelled from she was constant personal business and from back after wisconsin so she took two personal vacation days at the from my experience that would be part of that so i make a motion to pay for the trap pay here you know for her travel dates you know you're saying about two travel days but it's just my opinion that she could because of the two have days of wisconsin that she should have one trouble of a half day she was at the conference and then there flown back to the internet for the yes ok yes we're just talking about the travel trout so you're right i agree with you could have flown back that afternoon you're absolutely right and then that should have been paid for that day future of the listers in this town and it was there was no real formal action taken it was more of an informational where are we going what's the future of our list up in two thousand and fourteen to find someone to train pretty difficult so to do they feel that once the state or the town wide reappraisal is finished they'll be more time you know that eats up a lot of time currently is only hired as a sub contractor to do the repairs over to help us with a reprisal if we needed to have extra support we can hire  on a per hour basis but it may not be necessary he would need to be it's our understanding at this meeting that we've got this right he would need to be called in for some of these newer homes anyway  feel they have the expertise to properly appraisal home with all the new all the new things and new technology technology new things and this is very standard in all of the towns as they have you know either in house consultants or private consultants help so you know when they're going to do reappraisal or appraisal on a new home being constructed they would they would hire him hourly basis or half day basis i guess it would be probably getting up a bunch of work and off work for half a day go do that and pam seem to think in this long along  with jay and peter brooks that they would all stay if they had support if they had some support so we kind of talked about that we made no we took no official action but that's what was  green and it was a three year contract ends at that time and i have not looked at that i need to look more at the contract but the contract has if we want to change a contract they you know it's something that maybe we should look at putting out to bed or seeing wells as interested or something like that of course june thirtieth deadline would be tough right now but possibly not even offering  wall in that we contracted for it july fifteenth whatever that which is out there just leading a little bit but they did the right thing so we have a new firewall that matches what's going to be going to be there so i we just know i i was behind anyways because i think it on tuesday because i had that to our free training i went to so i didn't get the magic together so wednesday morning i plan to get out to you guys but the system went could we could access the current server right but we could not access well when you scan that it's through e mail so that you can you can scan the firewall it looks like to see comcast where it comes in right you get comcast box and then you would have your firewall fox and then you would have your server right and everything comes off of that but if you have no internet you