afternoon so i just again i think for the public i think that they would be proud the fact that we coordinate very greatly between our public works department school department our facilities apartment our emergency management when we put a parking ban on when we left the parking ban then we all can townhome you don't open town hall and it's really an amazing film but the coronation takes place and clearly we're very fortunate to have a great public works that we can make decisions quickly came shipley as opposed to waiting and so he's part of the collaboration takes place of call so i want to thank the superintendent for his help because we don't expend a lot of time needlessly by waiting for the schools he's part of the it's going to be fifty on sunday so clear the catch basins that would be helpful those catch basins have been blocked please clear them because that will create a flooding situation that we don't want but that would be great and fire hydrants if they haven't been shoveled out if you could shovel the against women and girls and the performance will involve a reading of a series of essays which bring awareness to victims of abuse and violence the funds will be used to support the new beginnings re entry services which is a nonprofit which is a nonprofit whose purpose is to empower women who have recently been released from prison specifically the beginnings provide support and services to these women as they work marshall will continue this collaboration and during the budget process i would say the thing that we worked on during this process is to take over two years of you and frankly maybe even a three year view about our budget office eighteen and nineteen to make sure that we were making decisions at eighteen in the morning what the impact would be in nineteen and so we will once we have eighty eight well now we have an eighteen budget think this is the third year that we've had stability in our process for sixteen seventeen eighteen and hopefully longer school budget is fifty three point one million dollars which is an increase of three million dollars six percent of the town budget is a thirty eight million point five increase of one point six million a four point two percent increase of fixed cost budgeted which of explain a little bit more in detail is seventeen point two an increase of six hundred thousand or three point six percent and that capital budget is budgeted at one point three million which is a decrease about half but there's a reason for that as you recall from gnashed year in the capital budget we budgeted one time revenues primarily from the fire station settlement and we had a large unused capital budget balances that we basically took advantage of to provide additional resources for capital and we've taken the in terms of the budget i think these are the revenues that eats up our budget and as you all know the largest component is property taxes and that's eighty percent of our budget  the next highest is state aid so between those two items it's almost nine percent of our budget clearly those are two very important things that need to be growing in order for us to continue to have balanced budget on the general stabilization as we noted early in the process was slated to be two two point dollars currently slated at one point three in terms of usage of the three million dollars balance hopefully we can get that down lower as we continue the process state aid it reflects an increase of five hundred seventy six thousand in total we already have estimated a one percent increase of ninety three thousand so the to our plan was about four hundred seventy six thousand dollars to build the permit fees continue to be one percent of the budget at age sixty one and reflects a increase for me to hundred forty thousand ambulance or seats represented get about one percent of our budget and it reflects an increase from eight hundred twenty two to eight hundred forty three thousand dollars other taxes are comprised of primarily our motor vehicle excise tax ok in terms of just numbers of property taxes are increasing by three point two million or three point seven percent as i said the other tax category well those four items and that's increasing by two hundred thousand or five point one percent state as i know it is increasing by five hundred seventy six thousand or six point one percent local receipts other than the other then the other tax categories increasing by two hundred thousand to five point one percent and other available funds decreasing by three hundred thousand primarily to reflect the one time revenues ever used in the capital budget funding we are using as i not one point three million from the general stabilization fund that use the chart to show you what with the years the town has utilized local receipts in fiscal fourteen we were using about six million were up to seven point six million million six over the last several years or twenty percent seven percent increase from fiscal fourteen so we are budgeting our local receipts aggressively horrible acronym or chapter seven between those two large revenue component to state a we were budgeting a receiving seven point eight million fiscal fourteen in the governor's budget were  estimating nine point eight million point nine million that's a two million seventy five thousand dollars increase from fiscal fourteen or about twenty seven percent and this is an important piece as i mentioned because it's nine percent of our total revenues hopefully during the legislative process the governor's recommendation will hold well they may even hopefully increase a little bit but that's what we use and that's part of the budget process services which represents our public works community development and facilities department that's thirteen point four million or twelve percent of the budget human services component is three point two million to three percent of the budget reflects the departments of the library health department and council on aging that in interest is required payments for bonded deaths of four percent of four hundred five million  state charges again the award given to the lord taketh so basically we get a good piece of change in the state in terms of revenues but we also get state charges which total one point eight million  listen for you where the components of our fixed costs state charges are increasing by two point six percent rose are increasing by the two and a half percent decrease in the debt services with the interest payments being reduced as principals paid off their retirement assessment is increasing by three eighty seven the good news is we are estimating seven percent and when we received a detailed funding schedule  and school as well as for belmont light and came a child killer public and in the different mall belmont housing authority we realized that our cesspit to the town was a little bit less than we had to subpoena to because of the distribution of the actuarial costs to the various other agencies that comprise the total allocation to fund the pension requirement minuteman assessment is up one hundred fourteen thousand dollars to fourteen point four percent i think jim  indicated more than likely that's not going to change a whole bunch as we go through the process every year we have to establish an amount for the overlay we use eight hundred thousand dollars typically to cover the cost of potential abatements from property tax payers during the rate setting process that became eight hundred twenty we've reduced it to on normal eight hundred thousand dollars as i mentioned we move the sidewalk repair allocation  from the two thousand and fifteen over right from the capital budget as part of these fixed cost so it continues to get the indexing like the pavement management program just to note that expenditures from fixed cost are sixteen percent of the entire budget so just not a small amount of money in schools a superintendent will speak more in detail about the school budget it is increasing by six percent but does it does include present level costing creases including our health insurance increase it does include the five teaching positions which was part of the override campaign to provide twenty teachers over a three year period between sixteen seventeen and eighteen this is the last year of  the twenty two so we did ten five and five adequate funding for special education services which was part of the budget plan and one additional bus has been added in fiscal eighteen to deal with the child budget is increasing by four point two percent or one point six million dollars again to cover all present level cost increases to make sure that we budget enough to pay our bills including health insurance increases it supports  funding to support the recreation strategic plan implementation public safety equipment technology replacement in h p a c technician position in the facilities apartment we feel by that hiring a technician we can save significantly on the contract a cost that we're currently spending to hire an outside firm to do our h b a c repairs and maintenance and we're also doing a small amount of money addition we've included one million six forty two for our payment management program which does include the additional money that was included in the override of three hundred thousand dollars as well as a sidewalk money which was a  new item that was added as part of the overall campaign in addition to that we and i'm receiving five hundred thirty five thousand dollars to supplement our paper ma program from chapter ninety funds from the state i would just point out i know that belmont has a bad rap for streets and sidewalks but i would say on the streets component where spending almost two point four million dollars a year so that's not an insignificant amount of money we have a plan and it's coordinated with our utilities and water and the gas company but we are spending a significant amount of money on our roads every year in addition to the major work that's been done to pelosi road and in belmont a toll expenditures again just shows you where we spend our money salary and benefits sixty nine percent total non salary which is you know the things that that the board of the sessions will provide additional new growth estimates with regard to the substation that can be included in the eighteen budget there may be some possible adjustment to our  get even lower down two million three in the use of the general stabilization which began a two point two is begin the process our goal is to get that down even lower if possible with either new growth revenues or or reduction in our expenditure estimates again we have approximately three million dollars if we can get it down lower to that million that means if you have to use the same amount year for the same period next year and so if you have a player we have three million we use a third of it we may be able to use the general stabilization for two additional years if not longer depending upon what name you knock it out it we will be now updating our financial model for the out years from one thousand and twenty based upon this three and a half percent to zero will factor that into law going forward i think we had some plumeri conversations back in december and january i think we recognize that we may need to just for good planning purposes add some additional f t e as for the school budget based on a moment which may include a bus and some f t's i think we probably want to add deaf in one thousand just to see what that means and whether or not we still have a shortfall nineteen but again i will say that the reality is is that we have three million dollars for the general stabilization fund if we're able to use a million that means just two million available whether that can be used to stretch out of the funds thousand and twenty four it all needs to be used in nineteen to balance the budget that will be the process but i think we're in a mode now after three years of the old life of the year to year analysis of one thousand and twenty to see what the i would say the good news is we are going to make an adjustment to our budget to reflect a reduction in our expenditure estimates for the school budget which means site based upon what i heard last week from bird which would translate into or adoption in the general stabilisation revenue needed to balance the budget so whether we have done by having the budgets been submitted in february has allowed us in the last several years to be able to only have a handful of changes going forward based upon changes in state aid or maybe a change in new growth but basically we've been able to have a pretty f without a lot of amendments going ferrite except for some amendments related to those areas and then we're in good shape in terms of having the numbers ticked and tied in out it's an amendment process but we know that the available revenues are only going to come from new growth and they're only going to come from states so if in fact a policy decision is made generically that we're going to try to reduce the amount   in the general stabilization fund for eighteen so it can be used in the out years then it's really just a handful of straightforward calculations of transactions  right i mean frankly if you're right so so to answer your question if the general consensus is our goal is to reduce to use of the general stabilisation by using additional revenues to do that for changes in the the budget we presented to you is a general fund budget there is a separate budget for the enterprise funds for water and sewer he will be asked to vote the water and sewer rates in march which are based upon the budgets that have been and with regard to the capital budget we're going to have a capital budget schedule for the other capital projects that we're looking at an addition  presentation to tell mean it may or june or sort of initial thoughts about you know path forward ok thank you and then for john if i may you know one of the things i was concerned about was having stabilization funds at the department level but you i would change your mind about doing that with regard to special ed so i think you know i think that's a moot point at this at this juncture but i'm told us in a meeting i'm not sure when maybe the last time we met that we're going to have to have the modulars in place by september of two thousand and eighteen and if those were known then the discussion would be had about whether we bond it in if we bond two million dollars over five years because there are requirements about how long you can on particular assets if we did a five year bond issue that would be approximately five hundred thousand dollars in principal and interest payments that would be  and bonded it would be a part of there's a there's need in in that in connection with the two thousand budget for these additional modular not necessarily because i think one alternative would be is to wait until you today at least i believe it's be premature until a space taskforce completes their work certainly the permanent but the believe me for the high school in terms of what the figure a show of the high campus is going to be why are we going to go out and buy a watchlist now now that might necessitate and likely require us to have a special town meeting sometime in the fall and which will have an appropriation a tap point within eighteen to purchase these modules either through debt either through bonding or direct payment and i think it's important that we know that the need is out there perhaps we'll figure it out later the final question i have for you john is that i'm concerned about you know the enrollment increase like everybody else and i noticed that you did a budget approach which i cheer i think that's the best way to do it for every organization is there kind of a rule of thumb that we need to consider when we're thinking about the school budget that would say if if the roman's going up by one hundred students you know you wouldn't multiply i don't think by the average expenditure per student i don't think you would do that but is there a rule of thumb that we can use and begin to plan ahead for this in roman bubble that's coming john taylor for working collaboratively together and for your excellent clear and relatively concise presentations you'll get valentine's day cards from me ok number two i do want to thank the superintendent and the school committee for reducing proposing to reduce their increase in bad funding down to zero which will free up another hundred sixty eight thousand dollars that we can keep in the  stabilization part i think that is a very good gesture my only question is for the support candidates for john are we with the current resources and projected budget  but is there a prediction now or forecast what free cash is likely to be in july of two thousand and seventeen i would say that in the budget where using a million three twenty to balance the budget and we haven't gotten a number from the treasury about what the opec policy allocation will be from the general fund i suspect there will be around three hundred thousand three hundred fifty thousand so we're into using a million six million seven in free cash i would think that we should be somewhat able to cover that as a replenishment of what we use in the spring so that we should be back where we started in the new fiscal year but again that's assuming for example we have not come to you for reserve fund transfer b n a couple storms like this will be back to reserve fund transfer so the ease at which i say it looks ok is sort of a little bit of how much of the four thousand we don't use if we don't use any of it then replenishing free cash is pretty easy because it's four hundred thousand right out of the gate so i think we need to wait and see  i would also say too that the revenues through the first half of the year are on target to be made but i wouldn't say they're off the charts as i mentioned to you the other day our commitment for motor vehicle excise for the bills that will go out this spring are within twenty thousand more than what we build out the same time last year so we've been accustomed to having increases in our commitment of one hundred thousand plus now we may be ok in terms of actual collections because the treasurer's working hard to collect outstanding excise bills i would tell you that we've been the beneficiary the treasurer being aggressive in being able to collect the furred taxes and tax title which is yielded somewhere between three and seven hundred thousand dollars right now i think the numbers about three hundred thousand so i guess we always want to try to replenish free cash more on the  budget plan we develop assumes that we need the money that we budget which we do we also try to manage it so if we can manage it and be under what we plan for that's good news but we always assume we need the entire allocation so the answer question is hopefully by the end of six thirty we will have been able to replenish what we're using a tommy at the moment which is the million three to balance the budget in three hundred thousand three hundred fifty thousand for the o p m policy after that i'm not quite sure again as we noted i think what we might want to do is have the sale of the parking lot for cushing square fall to free cash so that you can have the flexibility to either pay for the modules in the fall or appropriated to the that capital stabilization fund that was established a few years back or do some combination of both that gives you the maximum flexibility or frankly look at where your free cash is and see if you want to do an allocation to the general stabilization fund so i think i think that's why i think the fall seems to make a lot of sense in terms of having all the information available to make an informed decision about what it will cost things i think we should be as well but going to stand i think we discussed this last time we met that if it turns out that there is a favorable free cash situation perhaps later in the year if not if not right now but perhaps in the fall there could be an allocation the stabilization fund to increment that number there well you may be fiscal year but i would say to you that if you're going to have a special town meeting in the fall you will know what your certified free cash is because you can appropriate any money from modules without having the free cash number certified so therefore you may be again i think we have been in a very good position with our revenues exceeding estimates for a variety of good reasons but i think we need to be cognizant as we go towards funding a brain in high school that we be very prudent about our free cash position just because the rating agencies will be looking at our ability to manage our finances and i think the town is done a great job doing that but i think we should not always assume that free cash is going to be replenished on the revenue side like it has been because i've just given you a couple examples where while we're in good shape we're not as in good shape as we've been in the past and i was always be conservative because you can't be wrong when you do this you cannot be wrong i mean certainly the recchi additional resources of the general staff and i support that roi and we get to look at where we are in the fall as well so i think you know i've said this publicly i'll say it again i think we have to do everything we can to try to get through nineteen and perhaps twenty as we're facing a solution voters a relation the high school and is from my point of view this is just one person talking i really don't think anything should get in the way of that especially if we go to our residence and ask for a pretty significant debt exclusion so i'm hoping  in a claims basis and at the end of last fiscal year we had a very unusual claim experience frankly outside our norm and that basically required us to have a higher level monthly payment which gets reconciled now fortunately the claims have mitigated in this fiscal year but based upon what we experience at the end of last fiscal year i'm nine percent increase is still warranted because we have to budget a correct amount to cover what we will need to estimate our monthly charge to be in the gets reconciled on a quarterly basis so again i think the three year average is still less than three percent or four year i'm just a lesson three percent but this sort of is a make up in terms of actual claims experience that we need to budget adequately in order to make sure we don't draw down heavily over over reliance on the health cl national education tuitions was that you had one time circuit breaker funds to cover them is that correct has its own process it has its own projects in some cases they were maybe projects that were otherwise be request of the capital budget committee that can get funded through another source but typically the left pocket right pocket but the i think the projects are a little bit different because also the c p a projects are citizen generated and so they've already gone through their process and they've come up with their recommendations for the upcoming town meeting  to deal with and not necessarily would be things that we would want to fund within the limited resources of the kaffir budget that basically every are a number of projects that come before the c p a and may or may not be funded by the c p a which would also qualify as capital projects for example replacing tennis courts when brooke gross trees they are however the type of projects that if they came before the capital budget in this environment of limited funds they would fall to the bottom of the priority list and may not be funded right now the projects in the c playground requires that playground and grow street walking paths so all of those would be capital projects if they came before us but the p q project alone is at six fifty so that's i mean that's half the capital budget right there so that would never be funded for us so the c p a actually the answer is sort of backwards from what you're saying the c p a is able to pick up projects that while they are capital would not be funded by the capital budget because we don't have enough money i don't see them though alleviating any of the crush of what you're talking about here because they just don't qualify because of worst thing we want to do is fund something and then have a cut the next year it doesn't do anybody good because of the time and effort to either train an individual or to take the time and effort to implement the program i think that we've been very is a reasonable thing to have a budget plan so that when you open the doors in september you're not asking principals to freeze their budgets because you have to cover deficits elsewhere same thing applies to the town which is it doesn't help our budget plan to basically come to the war can because we have a budget in enough money to pay our bills so we pay our bills we try to make incremental improvements that we can sustain again i think during the task force the department heads came up with a whole laundry things that they would like to do to provide better services but i think it it was an affordable so jenny if i could just comment we have a budget hearings but from my point you i think there are things that you know we haven't done our adding some additional resources  strained and so we've asked david to add some additional resources the i still don't think it's enough perhaps you know as development comes online a question to which we likely need additional public safety professionals or department public works pressures and so i think we're running pretty lean in you know because you serve a couple budget committee you know the endless list there as well so they still tied even with a four and a half million dollar operate over and again to point out if we're asking can we achieve a balanced budget for nineteen that will be a challenge if you say can we do that for twenty that's a real real challenge it's not maybe not achievable but then frankly with that in your mind you really can't do much more other than cover your bills because you are if you're in a deficit at the beginning the process why go through that process of adding when in fact you may have to cut to balance the budget thanks with with that with the both the superintendent school school and committee chair here i just wanted to ask on the third third point whether whether you've got a specific time time a table in mind about about about the further about the further in conversations you have on the budget what would to school time i would suggest it makes more sense to make the adjustment in the numbers and get that to you this week so that you're starting from a good place as opposed to have version one two three gets to my opinion it becomes twice now so ok so you don't introduce yourself yes hi everybody i'm soo shalom from cook and company insurance services and we are the health insurance consultants to the town of belmont we've been working for belmont with belmont for a very long time and have been involved ever since you've been self insured under the harvard pilgrim plan so tonight i'm here to talk to you about a new plan that's being proposed for your retirees right now retirees and spouses who are over age sixty five and who are eligible for medicare parts a and b they currently get a supplemental plan either through harvard pilgrim or toughs the bulk of them are in harvard pilgrim so that's what i'm going to focus on tonight right now what we're talking about under this exit plan is actually the prescription drug portion of the supplemental plan right now for your retirees they have co pays if they go to a pharmacy they can get a thirty day prescription for ten dollars for a generic or tear one drug twenty five for brand name and fifty for preferred non preferred brand if they go through the mail order program that can get a ninety  prescription and the co pays there are twenty fifty and one ten right now because of the way that the plan is being offered with the prescription drugs coming directly from the enhanced plan the town actually does receive a subsidy from the federal government called the r d s subsidy program back in two thousand and six when medicare first introduced medicare part d i think the federal government realized that there were a lot of a lot of employer groups similar to the town of belmont that currently offer prescription drugs to their retirees and there was the feeling that if you could now get it through medicare that potentially employer groups might say we're not going to offer the prescription drugs to our retirees anymore so they came up with this subsidy program which basically gives a subsidy back to the town that equates to about twenty eight percent of the eligible drugs and again it's an incentive to continue to offer the program on an annual basis this has given belmont approximately one hundred ninety five thousand dollars per year which does have to go into the general fund ok as i just said in twenty two thousand and six they introduced medicare part d which would be for prescription drugs if you get medicare part d through a non group plan so not through an employer people are used to hearing retirees talk about the donut hole which makes people very nervous because in a non group plan that's an area where there actually is no coverage that does not pertain to the plan that's being proposed for the town of belmont everything would be covered that donut hole is transparent it's it's sort of behind the scenes the plan that's being proposed would actually provide the exact same benefit that the retirees currently get so the co payments would be the same and there would not be a donut hole when a prescription drug plan is offered through a group it's called an employer group waiver plan or affectionately known as an egg as i just said equip can be structured to match the current level of co payments currently provided for you retirees if you're interested in knowing about whether this is something that belmont would the only community doing there actually are a lot of municipalities that have been offering this as state employee plan through the group insurance commission on january of two thousand and sixteen they took their most popular medicare supplement plan and converted the prescription drugs to an exit plan and as you can see up here you have some surrounding communities who are in the g i c so they would also be covered  that we're talking about this plan is the monthly costs that you would pay for this plan are actually lower than what you're currently paying because for all intents and purposes and just to simplify it the federal subsidy is actually built into the medicare plan so it reduces the premiums one of the reasons is that if they just said there's a subsidy built in but also drug manufacturers under these medicare plans are required to provide a discount on some of the drugs at a certain portion for a certain portion of the costs because you split the premium with this enhanced plan on a fifty fifty basis between the town and your retirees you're retired would actually see some of the savings so it's advantageous to them probably one of the first things that you think of when you're not just thinking about the finances is what type of effect does this have on your retirees there would be minimal disruption we actually attach obtained a list of the prescription drugs that are being used by your retirees and we did it disruption analysis and  and would actually be very very minimal i think if it wasn't minimal we would not be as enthusiastic about pursuing this but it seems like it's a win win for both the town and the retirees so the members can continue to go to the pharmacy or they can go through a mail order program so they also would not have a disruption on where they're getting their prescriptions covered from the town side what this does is it does have an effect on your ability the initial estimate from the actuaries is that it would reduce the ability by approximately thirteen million dollars so right now the law does not allow you to take the subsidy that you're getting in this r d s subsidy program to reduce your opiate liability but when you're offering the benefits through medicare plan it does allow you to do that  and then finally this is just a list of some of the communities through harvard pilgrim who are offering the plans through neck whip in addition for those communities who are covered by blue cross and blue shield i would say at i guess is a benefit for the town and reduction of open benefit which is a benefit for the town but wasn't clear to me is whether the town has an increased geisha and in some other way by switching to a plan like this i would say the short answer is no i can't think of a downside to the town and again if you look at the retiree side because the premium is split fifty fifty the retiree also sees a savings the loss subsidy money is it's very close to what your actual savings would be in the premium even just the town's fifty percent and then in addition the liability goes down so really the answer to your question would be no then we're going to run back up to this question of you home rule petition on our call license and make a decision in terms of the type of language we want for the special town meeting that will be conducted in may first first meeting in may and then jim you've likely going to leave and then we have some ministerial things to discuss state ethics disclosure form a point of a major capital project working group on a ministry report and actually do it ok so we just met to discuss an executive session transition plan for a new town administrator and just to outline here it's in our materials that we have a timeline that's been put together by  thing if the consultant suggest additional members to be a point we can consider at that time but it would likely going to go with the what we've gone with in the past and then of course put together job descriptions advertisement that received applications and resumes sometime late may last time i can't recall how many we receive a thousands and so the search committees role will be to go through all of these resumes interview a number of candidates and at some point in time committee and maybe others as well that's just some additional thoughts about that i said plenty more than boys well so that's just some thoughts i'm not suggesting that's what it should be my colleagues i'm just saying what we went through once before so with that  he just held a brief real brief on the ready to go out we have approximately six firms that we'll send it to plus it will be published for anybody in theory to find the r f d and send us a proposal but we do have several firms that other communities have  group absolutely they did great work for us back in twenty one and so i think we're clearly going to send to them and others as well she will know absolutely one of the big components we're looking to you know find information to as the assessment center component i'm not sure to what extent call and subject provides assessment centers k but you know as we've discussed previously with the board that's you know definitely a key component in this process because that really kind of drill down the various skill sets of the candidates break and put them on some of you know mock situations as well as which includes you know maybe in the deal the staff that we currently have to assume additional responsibilities with some discussion of additional payments they are stipend and perhaps even hiring a consultant do worry that you need support and so we certainly want on the fourth day of the third how we're going to do that because you're going to be needed yeah that's what i understood that she spent most of her time in the last in terms of timing and it was there are some folks in town that want to have a special town meeting the what we've been told by david is considering where the legislature is the fact that appointment committees have not been appointed leaders of committees haven't been appointed here it is february by the time that takes place we would have already released there would be any delay there would be in securing day of any of us moving through a special time meaning and having this go to the legislature they likely wouldn't other location or to any other person partnership corporation l l c organization or any other entity which results in the license for the return to the town or if someone were to sell their business they have to come to the just licensing bo to be an application for a new  more more of an amendment right because you you're allowing for transfer after three years at the current location you can only transfer the current location so that someone can come in after a transfer the current location after three years out also include current licensees so if this goes into effect does that mean when the currently has a license has a three year mor that's restaurant that's retail in restaurants same language so retail licenses no transfer of up to three years which can be transferred to the current location right for retail for the same for restaurant that's being proposed was the intent of the marion scally committee and i don't see why we would mess with that if i mean if that's what was intended even though you know it wasn't only the town meeting vote because the motion didn't say that they weren't transferrable it wasn't the you know because the no then the home rule petition didn't say they were transferable not transferrable and then i got his license originally the liquor authority didn't put the non transfer ability condition on so there were there were series of events and then you'll remember that we also transferred that license on leonard street but we didn't really know whether part of the value that was paid for that business included compensation for the license we i think we understood that the license was coming back to us they were paying eighty thousand for the business which might have been for inventory and then we granted the license again because we like the applicant so you know there's been a lot of different things happening in it seems to me if the intent of that committee what was the name know if that was the intent of the committee we should we should just do that but then there's another question and that question is is that what we want but i don't think that's going to be up to us i think it i think it needs to you know tony needs to deliver you know exactly that's what i think present the article and people want to remember that you know the other thing that concerns me about this even though i think that's the way to do it is that and we couldn't consider this in our in our hearing but if the spirit of gore may wants to sell their license now and town meeting votes this way then they're going to be left in a situation where they they can't get compensation so i don't know if that's fair i don't know if it's unfair i just wanted to mention the point that you know i agree with what i've heard i think the proper approach is we  ever i gave it to something for me to sign sure back again this is a little bit of a housekeeping item as you recall going back to around two thousand and twelve the capital budget committee created a document sort of a tool for prioritizing the remaining capital projects at that time we didn't know what was going to happen with the high school of course we had police d p w the library incinerator site at that point the pool also had not been done and we were contemplating doing the track again so we had some outstanding capital projects that were looking for a way to prioritize them to start to form a long range plan for doing those projects and financing them we did the entire capital budget committee came before the board of selectmen i want to say in june of two thousand and twelve the board liked what we did and said all right go back and see if you can actually use this and and form a plan we start working on it but you know other things take precedence fast forward into two thousand and fourteen two thousand and fifteen financial task force that included a subcommittee on capital  projects we took the tool but we also at that point paul was taken care of harris field was taken care of so now the list is starting to narrow and become pretty manageable  had more current numbers we also took a look at the strip over here what can we do with that when we're looking at the decommissioning of the electric light substation what were we going to do with the incinerator site so we met with a number of people and tossed around a lot of ideas i won't get into that tonight but we felt like we were making some progress on these capital projects then the high school project gets the green light from the state good they're starting down the road meanwhile the library also wants to start again and they've decided they won't wait for a grant round they'd rather do with his ability study for what can happen on site so they start moving forward and as you mentioned casual conversations between you me and pap rouge all of that time members of capital budget committee saying all right but we still have police we still have d p w and we do have to make a decision on the incinerator size so we had some conversations throughout the fall come to january and we accessed david and fill us we had floyd command and run some numbers for us so at this point we're kind of on the brink of our if we're going to get serious about this then we need to be an official subcommittee conversations with the town clerk just to keep it neat even though capital budget had been empowered to pursue this better to have a formal process of appointing people so what we've identified is yourself mark from the board select one myself from capital and currently on the library feasibility study has some background with the high school project talent in a stranger and floyd as needed know my thoughts i think it's a very important task i think it's something that has to be done and it's something i know that selectman williams has also talked  about formalizing the process i think it is very him porton to appoint a formal working group if for no other reason it creates transparency because you'd be subject to the open meeting law and  very aware of everything that's going on in the town there's a lot going on but i think despite everything that's going on we just cannot lose sight not that in particular of the police station the d p w and you know perhaps we can't do them all either but