i'll start with the meet the minutes from september the th are going to have a chance to do for those who are just distributed i think at the end of september the reason  was one amendment that bill of allah suggested on the nd page where it says the addition renovation of my high school it currently reads in order to meet a da compliance one hundred million dollars would be required for remediation together with the addition this would bring the total cost for the space to two hundred and three million dollars and he wanted to make clear that it really was in order to meet the mandatory building code upgrades which would include the  you very much and next in the housekeeping department we have the appointing the chair of the education subcommittee so let's see chris and jack and i are here yes i think based on this question that we had a few weeks ago it seemed as though people were ready to vote on these and now that we have the language formally in front of us but if there is anyone who wants to raise any reason to get a chance to read it very carefully they always say it's a two hundred and ninety five project but we've already spent two and we're going to get eight by approving to ninety five in addition to have previously authorized the money that has been spent to dave on the exclusion vote has been characterized in the community i think it's a good question you know we received some spreadsheets in the office and the requests from the building committee was to ninety five in terms of how they get whole you have to spend it state statutes that allowed the exemption to be lowered from a constant eight percent to any level that a good jurisdiction had back and i believe was two thousand and six the board of assessors brought it to town meeting at that point and asked that the rate be reduced time to be defeated at that point thinking that it wasn't warranted that the reasoning behind it was that they felt that the beneficiaries of the people would defer in the taxes would get the benefit or interest impact the beneficiaries of a tax deferral on the person when they sold the home with a lower interest rate because it is a simple interest but we felt that you know a lot of times the parent or someone is not going to an adult child and ask for money to pay for the taxes so they're going to suffer in silence in some cases and but they do come to the board of assessed and tell us how difficult it is bought them to pay their taxes so we're looking to be able to offer the deferral and doing this is  on their property and so the town is fully secured and doing it it would just lower the amount of interest at this point we see that it lost between about eight in ten years the people that do go to that are for a program will defer their taxes until the as under under this proposal currently we're collecting eight percent the reason that would like to see it low it is again when someone comes in asked to defer their taxes and we offer them a percentage doesn't sound like a very attractive thing to do so they may go and get a loan or something like that the benefit of this is we're not going to be moving if they don't pay the tax again we simply defer they can pay as much of the taxes they want if they can only pay a one thousand dollars it's also helpful if you do have a large increase in the taxes and someone was just paying pay ten thousand dollars and the tax bill comes in eleven thousand dollars they could simply defer the one thousand dollars if they wish it so it allows people who are on a fixed income to be able to again we think that prior deferral so the balance is kind of us almost negligible that you see on the change and do it again some people defer to you know after ten years they may have you know ninety thousand dollars in taxes and interest that are coming due so we do collect at that time nervous about that as we get further and further away from the great depression one hundred and twenty nine it's getting easier because when we would mention the lean by st going to the business that was it no no go because they remember the foreclosures and things like that but you know now people are spike again and again if someone doesn't pay their taxes they tax the interest is real and so this is a much better way if they can't pay their tax bill simply deferred and not have you know state tax lien against their property  people at ten thousand dollars and that's one hundred and fifty years of fifty is about what three it's about ninety million ninety thousand terms our total budget and so if it if you had twice as many people joined in that now it would still about fifty nine thousand dollars so that's a household so so you have to be under fifty nine thousand dollars and there is no asset limitation on it though so someone could have assets of what have you and that was the principle then because some people well one of the one of the things we would be in st position on any lien so that sometimes knock someone out because they may have a nd mortgage or a march so we would have to get a mortgage holder to acquiesce to us moving to st position  is fifty percent of the assessed value which in reality when you get to it the amount of taxes you probably could live long enough to get enough to for all money to exceed that in doing so there is a cap but that you know as long as values are going up it really don't have in front of the selectmen believe the number that floyd provided us when we discussed it was two hundred thousand dollars the total total deferred taxes at this point was two hundred thousand dollars now we should clarify perhaps just to make sure but that was the number that floyd presented i and they didn't pay the taxes then it would go they could no longer deferred at that point but most of the people that it usually cleared up by that point there you know they paid off it with their so they don't get it theoretically could go up to the higher rate i city boston actually get special legislation to lower their stage fifty five dollars but with a sixty five you know there is this little bit of flexibility on that but then you get into a box question of what you're saying that you know how long can you last be without a fifty five you may outlive you know we may have to stop it at some point so that we felt that for that felt sixty five was a reasonable time to do it and then also just wanted to ask about the that means threshold is that you know we came up with thought that you know something a little less than five is reasonable and you know and historically is a pretty good number so not to get you're not averse to raising that if interest rates went up dramatically we would certainly do know this was sort of an idea that you know one of the things in the selection brought it to us and said you know what if you you know we will be happy to do it we brought it before we didn't bring it back simply because they tell me to get already rolled on it but we've you know feel is it we nice to have something in our quiver street has been kicking around for the playing board since i started working here back in one thousand nine hundred and six it has been there have been numerous consultants hired committees have been formed in order to think about the street it has always been concern from the planning board perspective from the staff perspective has always been sort of seen as the last frontier the one area in town that really could use some input some impetus to do something with and so because of various other projects that have come up the planning boards never really been able to advance this now that some of the projects seems to have quieted  down the planning board is able to put something forward at the same time that was happening with that conversation the housing trust was also finalizing and now has approved the housing production plan and in that establishes certain goals for a certain number of affordable housing units for elderly housing in the such and so those two sort of moments coming together both the fact that planning board now is ready to deal this up as a street and the fact that this housing production plan has been finalized in approved in accepted by the state the planning board came up with oppose a proposal in front of you and much of it is taken with the hindsight if you will of the cushion square overlay district and so with the overlay district basically what redone back in the seventy's and eighty's south south because the street was set aside as your auto mile that was the area that is the only area in town that allows automotive uses and the question becomes do you really want to zone out all of those automotive uses or not a lot of people like subaru a lot of people you know love to be able to walk to the subaru dealer and get their cars or still be done there into still in those properties to still be utilized for those existing uses but that this then as an overly district allows these additional uses and these additional rights development rights that wouldn't otherwise be allowed at the hotels so that it can become an apartment complex that was a concern that was raised and it just seemed you know let's keep it more simple let's go forward with these that we know are significant issues the concern about the extended stay couldn't be adequate the board at the time the board feel that they they responses back about extended stay was actually addressed every had there  been well attended public sessions on this is the planning board confident that there is enough public understanding and acceptance of this so that it's reasonable to bring it to the special town meeting rather than the annual town meeting i'm sort of because overlay districts as i know are quite controversial at this point there's a lot of language in it and it's going to take some digestion and i assume a lot of the work was done to get this ready over the summer when people would have been paying attention so i just wonder if the process feels appropriate at this point to the planning board well as you go your whole public meetings but and you pray and hope the people show up and then anybody anybody does there have been ten beatings just on this by a lot self  and so when this began certainly the board for all week up until we got plenty i mean they do still feel that there's been public opportunity whether or not the public has heard what this is really about i can't answer that question as you know and you've probably heard a lot about there's been something else very controversial the plane has been dealing with an unfortunate the media has only really commented on that one issue and not on this other issue which has been very very outspoken neighborhood and they are all informed about this and they all fully supported them so it's twenty eight feet but by special permit you can go up to forty feet provided that you put the internal the roof mechanical systems inside the building so that you wouldn't see anything you wouldn't be so subject to it and hear the noise or or or si of what is would you expect this to become one development for these multiple property owners like i guess i just want to do if i'm interested i know there is a project that is out there i don't know how much of this that covers and i guess i'm just trying to understand how does that sound but there it is two owners at the moment i don't know i know what those owners are thinking about in terms of consolidating working with one developer this does not prevent one developer  one would argue that by improving the developable rights of these lots makes that more difficult to do if that makes sense there has been the board has sort of side to side tension to this has been very encouraged to move forward with such a by law to do that just just do that to do that and to do that so that it does become not so easy to get whether or not i don't know what your perspective is unlike most of you guys i don't you know that there's a whole nother conversation in itself europe well it depends on what direction the path actually takes but this does the the far right left whatever there's white street extension which it does include it's right next to the star it's right next to the carwash in the star market that potentially could be used to provide either access you know going north or south depending on which direction you're on the path but that would be could be part of it then you could cross a pleasant street and so from so on so so i'm sorry just to follow up on that is there expectation that any developer there would be discussion with any developer in terms of the special permitting about accommodating the community now if necessary i mean if you took the bit of the depends on development coming forward but yes that's definitely very much expected that that at the moment would be left open and available for potential use in the future when it's a bike path or pedestrian path or some road network system something but there's definitely expectation  talk among siblings what that would be could be utilized for future reference for future use in that we need to figure out a way to preserve it enhance it maybe even a dead end half way between waverly and belmont center you also made reference to the automotive related uses the garages or whatever and yet the zoning here is a maximum of a five foot setback off of the end of the lot line seems to me that this is going to be kind of a little hodgepodge checkerboard unless we have a sense that there's this real pent up demand for people to redevelop this stretch it seems like it's going to be at least initially maybe in perpetuity in this kind of funny mix of uses and styles of all new development has to have a maximum of five percent a five foot a setback and then you have next door automotive uses that just curious as to how that kind of all played out what the thinking was well part of it that's part of the reason why it's under special permit  plan review is to look at those different aspects of it  it would be wonderful in a perfect world to make this more pedestrian friendly but the reality but there is some reality to that perhaps that may not occur because it's not it's it's a linear and it's only one sided it's not on both sides of the street which makes it much more difficult to be pedestrian friendly as a result clearly waived the square because it's got commercial ends that's clearly a pedestrian should be more and strive to friendly environment that's also why the five foot setback is put in there is because by having the building at the edge of the probably or closer to the sidewalk it forces the parking to being back in makes it much more pedestrian friendly to walk there and so forth and so on the process further down it's an interesting question and this certainly the board has gone around and around with  d they struggled what to do with the rest of it and whether not included all in the overly district or not it's a fine balance between you know trying to preserve some of the underlying but allowing additional development rights and this is what they feel comfortable with coming forward i know he didn't really answer a question but what do they think there's a pent up demand to redevelop that stretch yes yes valley crestor i don't know it's called or actually maybe in the empty offices in mclean offices something that the building there when they bought the a budding one thousand pleasant street they made it well known that with the next five years they want to be developed a property now they have not necessarily presented anything for that or any sort of development scheme they did have initial conversations with stuart harker who did propose doing and says a living facility there but nothing formal has been presented it's only been a concept at  well it's also taking to consideration the amount of property that is in play here it's not just to property owners that have a very small lots it's it's a much larger property than so when you it's always being evaluated so from so on so i suspect that you know depending on how this works out that it will definitely be a consideration for the rest of the ok area as well development scenario for an area like this is you either have a developer they have played in that wants to do something and they're ready to go and they need to be entitled to it it's been a long process we  have we have a project that has been presented to us but there are no business germs in place yet and i don't think it will be until the entitlements which basically mean listening is put in place for the other major part of and that's  presentation is closer but when that takes place i don't and this is one other question linking to the other big issue in the planning board where is the marijuana district little under thirteen million dollars it generates about one hundred and fifty five dollars in taxes this flight which is you know a six and a quarter acre site in don't want with a market that's been ro for about six years or so if you look at just the assessed values on this the lynn value represents about sixty two percent of the total value of the area and it's forty percent for the improvements we've got you know six thought acres and we've only got we've got less than sixty thousand square feet of fruits here so this is a clear indication that the highest and best use of the site with the zoning in place doesn't work it doesn't do anything for the town with the in title months that we'll be putting in place you should see the new buildings that will be put in place the value of the buildings will be considerably higher than the by a lot they'll be a lot more buildings built the values will be higher the taxpayer will be higher we hope that's a discussion you talk about when we see the actual things but the taxes cambridge is being very liberal where there is in the body where they're pepperidge farm out that used to be there that now will be allowed to have a retail marijuana store there and there's nothing we can do about that i just want people to sta town getting to put on the loading dock area back here and that's a technical issue isn't so in the past this doesn't this is actually a question for the moderator in the past the moderator has said you can't expand a by law so in essence this would be expanding the by law by putting in more area by putting in another area you could however had if you had southwest we di marijuana adult use and this quickly becomes developed with picking up three senior housing projects and now there is no more left over land that's all we can do is make sure that we've provided the tools to make it happen what happens in the private market between developers and purchasers and self and so on is nothing that we can influence at all i mean nothing that we can you understand i thought they were just pasted one on top of each other same seventeen if you had a medical marijuana license right two thousand and seventeen in the town goes in and does retail marijuana in a different area you that medical marijuana would still be entitled to flip to retail even though the town has said no we don't want to that district they would have that right to do that so we but in this town there isn't any medical marijuana license issued prior to twenty seven thousand so it's not a nation that wiggle the issue that state law is under the power of public health they don't use marijuana is under the cannabis control commission and supposedly during two thousand and nineteen those two entities are supposed to join together and form one so that all marijuana will be under one body and they'll be coming out with a new set of regulations which will eventually means that we'll be back to the front of town meeting the plane would be back in from the town meeting with another marijuana  and open space so we got a couple hours of input it was a good discussion we're continuing to refine the ideas gather some more input and some data and there will likely be a community input the goal is to make a decision on the post closure use by the end of the year or in the next couple of months because we have to corning to our agreement with the environmental state agencies designate a plan for the capping and it is prudent for us to understand how we use it as a part of the capital plan because there may be some synergies there so we're trying to move this forward over the next couple of months tom are you guys just thinking about what will be permissible and have how real are potential users for each of those as a hockey rink and hope someone built one you know or escape or you know the goal is to try to determine not only the end has a paid use but the feasibility of getting that implemented including what does the funding l challenge even for things as straightforward as being just a park is they have not only kind of onetime costs for their creation but then there's ongoing operating costs associated with those as well so we're trying to evaluate each of those relatively modest we will have to kind of get some final numbers there but the current thinking is you could get about one megawatt of generation there that plays into revenue streams in sort of three different sort of ways you know one that can be a lease potentially to a developer who would pay for sort of access to to create a p v farm and battery storage farms secondly there could be some sort of pilot like payment that they they might be making an ongoing discounted you know energy generation potential so you have variety different ways to get revenue depending on how that could be structured reality though is that probably fifty thousand dollars ish maybe more but not a lot more that's an order reporting to get a little bit more indication of what that could be we've pushed the consultant on that relatively aggressively unfortunately a lot of that is driven by market dynamics you know can you you can make money from the tipping fees and can also make money from the energy generation but getting that whole relatively complex ecosystem of players so for come together is a little bit unclear so there is a proposal that cap and the benefit of both of those is that there's an opportunity with potentially a developer a partner we might work with to get a portion of the cap paid for as well as part of sort of the deal that would be  beast and then you know the hockey rink it's one particular option there is also another option to have the hockey rink into a public private partnership occur on the high school site so that's certainly in consideration as well but we're exploring this there are some complexities to putting a hockey rink in an environment such as this as well as some challenges with the timing but we're keeping it on the table that's one again depending on how it's structured might be revenue generating might own and a conversation about maybe putting a field out there and i also saw fielders i feel i'm not sure exactly what it was but the fact the idea that there wasn't enough on the high school site is that still a conversation it sounds like that's not one of your five so it's not one of the five actively unfortunately the creation of a field particularly given the grade would actually not be cheap there certainly is one thing that's been discussing the see if the selection of open space is the choice that will  there are a lot of demands on a relatively high his budget there so it is one of the concerns is that how would how would you fund the construction i mean there's some concerns about ongoing maintenance to right you know maintenance and policing in fire and else it would ultimately come yes if we talked about i think one of the principles has been discussed as we certainly don't want to create downside risk you know that said it's all in the go she ation of the agreement with the partner right and the more that we protect ourselves against the downside probably the less lucrative the arrangement is to us right the rd party bears the risk you know we're going to see less in the guaranteed payment so we have not gotten anywhere near negotiating anything or even really talking with partners about it but that is something that's actually come up and something that the formed to take a look at traffic issues associated with high school as well as the areas around the high school that would very likely be impacted by the high school project from the pedestrian safety bicyclists a fifty and traffic perspective and that group is working on trying to put together a memorandum of understanding that will sort of guide the next few months and potentially beyond of work past the november th vote and it has making any firm commitments to anything but reassure the community that we continue continue to be committed to trying to to the degree possible mitigate the challenges that bob says there is no solution but to try to mitigate  have i'm certainly happy to help you know i think reports simply that we've been through preliminary allocations and i believe moved all of them forward waiting for final applications with one question outstanding on the clock tower for the entire universalist church i think is what roughly sixty thousand dollars is being sought to restore the clog which interestingly was initially funded by the town and for a while was maintained by the town and then a member of the congregation kind of our view is if this can't be funded then no project in the church can be funded because the clock is pretty secular especially given the time originally funded it but we don't want to walk into a lawsuit so we're waiting for ninety percent of building management is water so i'm actually really happy with it i forgot the name of the maintenance person but he's being actually my steve used to be quite proactive about looking at projects that count as historic because of one project or something where it's so i don't know who to talk about but it was certainly a surprise to everybody like me when when that appeared and it wasn't a happy surprise and i'd also say that it was very lonely on a list of priorities in terms of you