good evening we're glad you're here to spend the evening well hopefully not the entire evening with us in a regular council meeting and we're glad to have you we wondered if i could do a roll call for if you need a little speech about october and stuff for now thank you anna bird president to three years here and here white by one of our colleagues to see councilman brian lamb will be doing that from the fourth ward and then we'll have our pledge of allegiance so if you would are able would you please join us in standing for those two items tonight we ask for humility for patience for courage to listen and in place of speaking we ask for clarity of mind as we discuss complex issues give us the wisdom to act when action is needed give us the wisdom to wait when action is premature give us a spirit to lead well both for today and for the future for all this we're thankful i pledge allegiance to the plaque of the united states of america and to the republic thank you councilman len now we're going on to the consented genda which is a list of items that we plan on approving with one vote at the end of the list however you may have come here because you are really interested in talking to one of those items if that's the case when we come to the end of the consent agenda and as done reading those you may come to the podium i'll ask for people and give us your name address and tell us which item you would like taken off that consent agenda so am i could you please read that for us item four b to approve the minutes of the regular meeting held september twenty one and study session how to temper twenty two thousand and sixteen i foresee two accepting fire lexically don'ts of office from various points and commissions item twelve one point one two accepting approve the results of the city's road salt purchase through the states contract for the two thousand and sixteen two thousand and seventeen winter season in the amount of one hundred thirty two thousand nine hundred seventeen dollars with funds provided from major and local streets operating budget item twelve one point two two approved the assessment role for the eighth street in columbia improvement and to adopt a resolution schedule in the public hearing for wednesday october nineteenth at seven p m in the council chambers and to instruct the deputy clerk to publish a meal notices to the property owners listed on the assessment roll item twelve  point three two approve the assessment role for the ninth street snow moment groom and adopt a resolution scheduling a public hearing for wednesday october nineteenth in the council chambers in and again instruct the deputy clerk to publish and mail notices to the property owners listed on the mail notices to property owners item twelve point one to approve the change with three contracting inc to the original contract in the amount of two thousand four hundred forty four for additional expenses incurred incurred as a result of the city hall exterior painting job item twelve easy to point two to approve the community improvement contracts with ford neighborhood contractor connector sites heights of hope three sixty neighbors and washington school neighbors subject to approval last a form by the city attorney item twelve two point three to approve a contract with home court for removal of two driveway aprons and reinstallation of a curb subject to approval last a form by the city manner that is most advantageous to the city and twelve four point three two approved inner agency cash transfer agreement with michigan rehabilitation services and authorized the mayor and city clerk and finance director to signed the agreement with conditions as a stablished item twelve four point four two approve vehicle beds is bid as follows two two thousand and seventeen ford pickup trucks with a plow at sixty thousand nine hundred seventy one one two thousand and seventeen ford pickup truck from barber ford at twenty three thousand two hundred nineteen one two thousand and seventeen port fusion sedan from signature four in the amount of seventeen thousand three hundred thirty one dollars one two thousand and seventeen ford escape from barbara ford at him at the amount of twenty four thousand two hundred  forty three one two thousand and seventeen ford f five fifty truck from signature ford in the amount of thirty seven thousand five hundred fifty one two thousand and seventeen forestry  dollars and six cents four point five to accept the bit from having an electric for a lot proposed service work to be done throughout the entirety of all city of how i manage property including but not limited to park buildings and other facilities item twelve efore point six to approve the bid to print in deliver the annual city calendar to the here today herald in the amount of ninety sorry one thousand four hundred fifty dollars and forty one cents with a minimum of twen the mitigation prepared mis response and recovery from natural and human made disasters within the city by being part of the ottawa in allegan county emergency management program to provide for a means for chord meeting the research resources of the city with those of prospective counties and to provide a means through which the city council me exercise the authority and discharge the responsibilities vested in them by this reza by this resolution and act number three ninety of the public acts of my nine hundred seventy six item twelve e six point three six point four and six point five to adopt resolutions for the annual downtown parking operations and maintenance downtown principal shopping district in downtown snow melt operations assessment scheduling the public hearing for october nineteenth two thousand and sixteen at seven p m in the council chamber chambers to consider the final roles on all three twelve eas six point six two approves a listing agreement amendment with jim in burnie team for the albertine property to change to change the expiration date from september thirtieth two thousand and sixteen to march thirty two thousand seventeen subject to approval last a form by the city attorney item twelve east six point seven two adopted grant amendment between fear food network in the city of holland farmer's market in the amount of one thousand dollars for double up food bucks redemption subject to approval as to form by the city attorney and item twelve east seven point one two approve a budget amendment in the amount of three thousand seven hundred fifty one dollars and forty four cent for the purchase  unmanned aerial vehicle of an unmanned aerial vehicle for the c a t v thank you and so perhaps one of those items was important to you and you wanted to talk about it this evening and it will otherwise be put in a consent agenda we will approve in a minute so if you heard something you wanted to talk about in its regular sequence in the agenda please come forward give us your name and address and which item you would evening we have the opportunity to say thank you to someone that not everybody notices and that's the way he likes it mo you really have asked him to come here  this evening so that we as a community can say thank you so greg holcomb would you mind coming to the front please thread holcomb served downtown highland in the riverview group for nearly three decades and in so doing also served the residents and visitors to the city of highland greg's hometown and where is greg's education at hope college and who have worked consistently throughout this period and every facet of downtown highland success and greg was instrumental in the implementation of holland's unique in tremendously successful snow melt system and whereas greg was also instrumental in the downtown strategic plans of one thousand nine hundred to two thousand and seven and two thousand and fifteen which assisted in quality development and redevelopment for the entire length of eight street seven street six street central avenue college avenue and the eighth street marketplace and greg's dedication extended beyond downtown to create and implement a vision for the mecca tower greenway the outdoor discovery center and eventually their merger and gregg's in numerable accomplishments included taking the initiative and fundraising which resulted in extending snow melt one mile south and central avenue to the commons of evergreen and greg's vision was key in creating a highland community energy plan that helped to produce an alternative power generation source to coal a home energy retrofit and bill financing program and a holland hope college sustainability institute and greg took pains to stay out of the limelight yet attended almost every city council budget session long range planning meeting and significant policy making the meetings inclusive of regional planning agencies like the service delivery committee of the macro tower area coordinating council the downtown development principal shopping district and the community energy plan steering committee and whereas greg's departure from the riverview group will be a huge loss to the city's policymaking process due to his knowledge resourcefulness cap attends conscientiousness and capri hence of insights as well as his tremendous patience and diligence now therefore be it resolved that the entire city council of the city of holland michigan on behalf of the residents of the city does here by express is at its most respect thanks and appreciation to greg hall come for his nearly four decades of leadership to the river view group and to the city of holland and be it further resolved that the city council also expresses its heartfelt thanks to his wife allison for her countless moments of patients and support that assisted many of greg's services to the riverview group and to the city lastly that this resolution of appreciation be spread upon the permanent records of the city of holland thank you appreciate it as you know i also need to say it's the team it's the team it's the public private team that riverview has been a part of for since nine hundred eighty seven started by gordon and along side you and that will continue with our new manager that a new director that i described for my or continue the team continues and we're extremely pleased to continue with you and other  valuable it is it would be a terrible reflection on us not to say thank you and that to challenge the rest of the community to stop and think the difference that one person can make when you really take time to be a part of what's going on and care and keep working toward a better future to help people get along and work together and sees a vision and keep looking at that vision  it is a it's amazing what can happen and so i hope that your presence in this community and taking time to say thank you and appreciating all that you have done will encourage others to step forward and be a part of public private partnerships and how in michigan so thank you for the example you have said reich so we are moving and it is so wonderful  now we have a public hearing for p a when ninety eight tax abatement for the edmar manufacturing company so right thank you madam mayor members of the city council this is a tax evasion at five twenty six showed me some of the products that it was just trying to show you and then of course there's a public hearing tonight and then action requested of the city council so what you see here are some parts the there are a wire manufacturer mainly associated with the construction industry although they also have so there's a construction form in the lower left and some wire related products in the middle and then but they also have diversified that it's actually a furnace had never seen in operation for that's on the right there's virtually no scrap with that type of process this is the building that the request is for it's twelve thousand five hundred square feet it will produce three jobs and the value of the building is four hundred thousand dollars in terms of the improvements and it's mainly to produce a new product line this is called gorilla grills available on the internet very popular and growing and there several styles shown on the right and also several different ways of purchasing your wood pellets because that's what they burn for smoking and cooking and all kinds of flavors so with that request before you tonight is a consideration of the attach resolution after her twelve year industrial facilities tax abatement fred marr manufacturing after the requisite public airing thank you ryan so we are open for public comment close the public comments counsel what would you like to say about this ever onwards thank you ok now we are opening for public comment so of anyone has come here to speak to whatever is on your heart this evening you're welcome to come to the  podium it's a good time nancy you know right ok hi everybody i'm mary white furred i'm your state representative for allegheny county and i just wanted to stop by and give you a quick legislative update and give you an update of what i have been busy doing  for one thing my committee assignments and i've been in office now for about seven months but military and veterans affairs elegant county actually has over nine thousand veterans so it's really important to be able to be that intermediary between veterans and government my second is agriculture elegant county is number one in the state for agriculture production so i'm honored to have to be that seat at the table for our farmers and then my third committee is natural resources being that we're on lake michigan our dunes are isn't an elegant county but it's a very important part because we have so much water that leads into that river and then the kalamazoo river so i've been able to work with d n r d e q and try to bring some attention to our area to make some nice things for our district i did have one bill passed into law few months ago it was part of a veterans package and it redefined what a veteran what of veterans qualifications are there are a lot of discrepancies between the state definition and the federal so we pretty much aligned it with the federal definition just to make it clearer about trends and then i have a second bill that i introduced a few weeks ago in the middle of alien county is fifty thousand acres of state game area it is the biggest state game area in the state a few years ago there was a controlled burn and people weren't notified so the local elected were not or and the nine one one services so some fire departments came out turned back but they still build this little township that actually is service by three fire departments so this is been an ongoing thing and i've been in touch with the nine one one center in allegheny county and they haven't been notified of any controlled burns in at least a year even though it is policy for the d n r to do that so so i figured we'd just do a quick little one page bill just to say hey  notify your local elected when you're going to have one of these burns and the nine one one center and that's it just give us at least twenty four hours notice so so right now it's going to be headed into my natural resources committee i did get bipartisan support every member of my committee signed on as a co sponsor and we'll see what happens there are only three more weeks of session left so we are in district and it's really really great for me being you know somewhat new still so i'm getting around meeting with all kinds of people and groups schools businesses getting tours i've had a couple tours with mayor de boer and getting to understand our district and what we need so i am since if i'm blessed enough i will have three full terms ahead of me to serve i want to have my game plan together and i'm looking at this from a long term role long term goal with term limits so often everything's just kind of emergent and reactionary so i really want to make sure that we have a good plan going forward so i'm listening to all my different stakeholders and working on quite a few things just to try to be a good voice for our county i do have on update that i gave to everybody  the other thing that passed the house is a transparency bill so we have for you where our citizens can get information from their public government but there was always an exception with the governor's office the executive office the legislature so what this does is create an open information act with the legislature one part of the bill package has one exemption and what that is is we cannot give personal information of our constituents out so that's why it's really important a lot of the information comes through our office is very private and you don't want that information to get out to the public so besides that everything is transparent i personally am extremely transparent i will answer any question that you have and get any information that i can give you to help out we have had six years in a row of budgets passed on time ahead of time and balanced we are one of the top in the country to be doing that so that is of course you guys running a city it's very important to make sure that we have a budget and it's followed i do have office hours coming up in district it will be in holland on october fourteenth so friday october fourteen i've had these office hours all over the district dozens and dozens sell if anybody would like to come sit down and chat please feel free to meet over at south side in and then on the shoot there's a couple other spots it's on my website facebook page so the other district library but i will come out and meet anybody anytime i think that's about it do you guys have any questions any concerns that you would like to address tonight you know ok well thank you and thanks for this opportunity to speak and also to serve everybody in allegheny county and holland thank you for coming thank you are keeping us updated we appreciate your involvement in holland thank you very much mike and the other comments from the public close the public comment section and will go on to adoption of ordinances for the proposed rezoning of this west sixteenth street ryan who should talk about that from the community reserves as senior planner mark good evening mayor and city council members of the first ordinance of your adoption tonight and recommended by the planning commission is the proposed rezoning of we got the wrong one on the screen here neighborhood commercial district the proposed purchaser of the property is a gentleman by the name of christopher pearson and he simply wants to buy the property it's it's it's kind of a neat building it's over one hundred year old a commercial building lots of character two of them most recently was used as a coffee shop i believe and i think it's the building has been vacant for a couple or a few years but this perspective owner wants to  convert it to a home that he intends to live him as well as having kind of a woodworking shop that may someday turn into a kind of a retail sales so i understand this gentleman is really good at making canoes and kayaks and stuff like that so it should be kind of a needed dish in there the i one district does not permit residential uses by right so that's the main motivation for his asking that this to the sea one district which which does allow for a mixture of uses that allows for residential use as well as kind of a retail component so the planning commission held a required public hearing on this back on the thirteenth of september  there were no comments registered from the general public and the planning commission is recommending unanimously that city council approved this rezoning request thank you mar so anyone want to talk about that screen there's there's one full property and then a portion of another property but the property located at four east sixteenth street as you can see here is the southeast corner of sixteenth and central avenue that's currently zoned c one neighborhood commercial district so this is a rezoning request and capsule it's all that property as well as kind of a sliver of the west twenty or twenty two feet i believe of the property to the east which is an address of twelve the sixteenth street and that portion of the property is zoned our t r n residential district so the the applicant which is a jubilee ministries is asking that the be rezoned them from the c one in the t r n district to our p r t planned residential development district and the expressed purpose of this is they get the the arrow go on here showing us six tiny homes so to say end of the square footage of these homes are about four hundred fifty to five hundred square feet in size  one bedroom units with one bathroom and a small kind of dining area in a kitchen and outside deck and a kind of a storage shed on the side of the of the home for a bike or a girl or or what not so jubilee ministries is done some marketing analysis of this believes that everything that they've heard that there is a good demand for this with the with the size of the home there is going to be a kind of a new private alley so to say that's going to be running on the south side of the property that's going to provide access there's five parking spaces that are going to be in this area here th sally is also going to provide alley access to the three homes to the east of this property which are not a part of this rezoning requests but these homes are being renovated or actually they may be completed by now i partnership with jubilee also so but these three homes just to take a minute these three homes are all being renovated in going to be owner occupied homes so they're actually going to be ripping up the driveways from sixteenth street so soul access to the properties will be via that alley we believe that this is going to have the kind of a nice urban appeal there's not going to be as many interruptions  the parkway the green parkway along sixteenth street so while we're just looking at this particular thing here there is kind of the larger package of improvements that are that are occurring at the corner here so  planning commission did approve the development plan for the these six homes and these are going to be kind of owned owned and managed on a condominium basis so they'll be all the proper agreements and taking care of snow plowing and shoveling the sidewalks and cutting the grass and all that good stuff so the but the planning commission did approve that and obviously that's conditioned on city council actually approving the rezoning so planning commission here again held the required public hearing on the thirteenth of september as noted in the staff report to city council we did not receive any public comment at that time but there were two  written e mails that came in expressing some concerns and having some comments in regards to that so that was included for your information i'd be happy to answer any questions pretty exciting stuff happened this but i just never come no no no questions are just comments i think it's an interesting idea there's a there's a very significant trend of tiny homes and really interesting hipster people or you know empty nesters who don't want very large spaces i think it's an interesting model i know it's not for everyone but it's for someone and one thing that i've really really believed in is that the city needs to provide a diversity of housing and by that square footage size scale urban versus suburban is a very exciting development to hear that of the trend of tiny homes and you know there's all kinds of conversation about it whether there is a thing of the future is it is bad is it what is it and no one knows what to do because in america we always get more so how can you talk about having less out but there is a very strong movement that more is not necessarily better and maybe going to less is a much healthier way to live or maybe you're starting out and all you have is less and that's a good way to start that and with that kind of responsibility so four hundred fifty square feet what is it like half the area here would be the entire house we still have a couple hurdles in terms of getting the plans the actual plans approved with the building department but our hope is that we start this fall we've got a couple properties that we need to sell in order to finance doing these kind of how it works for us so but our goal is there's we started this google doc list of people that are interested and it's growing and growing and growing and so we hope to start more sooner than later so the goal would be the sometime this fall is our hope that we get those going and you know they if we can start in november the expectation would be that they would be finished before spring so working through the i'll tell you julie's on the cutting edge well that's one reason we're trying six because you know being different you know a different project like this we thought that you know we had looked at a couple other parcels  and looking at going bigger but we just were concerned about trying something new and we thought six was a good number to start out with and then hopefully if this is something if it catches on like it appears to be then maybe somebody else can pick the ball in terms of a private developer and carry that forward so if people see this and they're kind of interested in checking into it what should they do contact our office  k development and restaurant would like to begin construction there with opening i believe about a year later and a liquor license is before you tonight the restaurant will be known as seventy six is owned by the  popular public restaurant in zealand and would like to invest in downtown holland and i think that this is a real development classy license  get to be you weird license is different from a regular class c license this license would not be able to leave the location you cannot be transferred out so it stays with the bil i thank you and i and the other comments or questions are right it's going to come of that it's exciting to have more development in holland and to have a restaurant of the type and we're now in that has come with public and in the show so we're really proud to have meant oh yeah that's great is this  particular piece of the fold them out of development do we know where it will be in the g d cable like yes the lower floor of the sentinel former sentinel building how convenient for those sentinel employees they deserve a break today ok any other comments or questions is there a motion moved by peter's support supported by hoekstr ear yes motion passes yes one welcome seventy six glad you're in the neighborhood thank you ok we're moving into the michigan rehabilitation services for disability program ryan could you explain that to us and well we needed to vote and i think i know it's i should speak ahead go ahead write thank you this is i believe the third maybe fourth year that  this is been asked of the city council it's an opportunity for the city to enter into it interagency agreement which enables additional funding associated from the michigan rehabilitation services or disability program in a way that improves the services offered by lakeshore disability network it is no no cost to the city there's a requirement that there be this partnership in order for the funding to be received by the disability network and it of course will do w gifts that lovely section of the agenda the city manager's office is pleased to report the following gifts public safety from fire operation received purchase for the automatic automatic chest compression devices from robert dinoire chevrolet in the amount of one hundred dollars from barbour ford of howland for five hundred and the lake shore family chiropractors in the amount of three hundred this tiny tim dolman for five hundred dollars parks and recreation to grant nature center received to do nations one from miri in kent jack now for a fire mental education in the amount to two hundred and from various donors for exhibits in the amount of two hundred six dollars and twenty five seconds parks and recreation again received donations for the week view park improvement project from various don't donations in the amount of eight hundred fifty one dollars and sixty three cents parks and recreation prepare project received a donation from s t m manufacturing in the amount of ten thousand dollars parks and recreation for the s program received a donation for the recreation office from an anonymous donation of fifteen dollars in again parks and recreation when mai ling carousel received a donation from richard bash in the amount of two thousand five hundred dollars it is recommended that these donations be accepted was appreciated and an expression of gratitude be forwarded to sit down whi opposed same sign that is just amazing that companies step forward like that individual step forward to make this a better community it is really humbling to serve such an amazing city thank you community now we go to a downtown snow melt orientation assessment resolution that's about as long as we can put it right and i thank you i wonder if our  thank you i'm having a technical assistance here with mr manager by the council in our study session last two weeks ago excuse me last week asked for additional information regarding the snow melt assessment specifically in the area of what we're calling the heart of holland district which is an area from twelve street along central avenue south to twenty first street where the heart of holland group provided funds to help construct that area in a residential or primarily residential neighborhood and part of their donation to the city of holland was that the city would provide some sort of a reduction in what might be the normal assessment rates specifically the target was fifty percent of that assessment so the assessment rate in that district is going to be at a twenty one cents per foot for a total of fifty three twenty one twenty two in that area the question was raised in the study session of how much of that area might be drives in approaches and how much might be sidewalks in that data was provided through city staffs work and basically about twenty five percent of the area in those properties is in drives in approaches in about seventy five percent since sidewalks the the un on tonight's agenda there is a and a resolution that is requesting that council set a public hearing for next week to determine the assessment there was discussion if there are at least if there's going to be a change in rationale and how that area would be special assessed that we would understand that clearly now is that we could send our proper notices to the property owners and tonight's action would be to approve the resolution to set that public hearing for two weeks from tonight e we were discussing this song on the back of the reason that i have asked us to consider this our policy regarding this particular assessment role is because it represents a slightly different paradigm in terms of our rollout and use of snow in the community prior to this loss of the application has been adjacent properties of either commercial or institutional in nature into a primarily residential area  we this project actually got moved back several years as we're discussing the very idea of whether or not to extend that that skeleton out of the system but it's a little bit more difficult to divine what the benefits are in a residential area as we've discovery in our discussions of this as it is if you compare it to a commercial application so you know in my mind is it fair to assess a homeowner the same amount of money that would racial money that we would assess a commercial operator the benefits equal or the similar hou policy decision on what we do now with this role assessment process what role but what do we do if we get another to another idea of extending it to the east of the west to another portion of our residential area would be cool to have it everywhere but if we do do that how are we going to assess it as a set of stairs i don't think we've satisfactorily answer that policy question yet as i said upstairs ethic in through this looking at the suggestion that we have for us i was kind of hard pressed to come up with an alternative and i guess it was sort of the solved to go suggestion not that it's a bad suggestion but because i couldn't come up with anything else but when you know i have been then and now which is i would like to share with you all for your the newest assessment role that we're looking at here would be assessed for the driveway approaches which have been broken up for us at a rate of forty one cents per square foot which is not the reduced rate but it is the fall rate again at the forty two cents per square foot rate for three years there abouts which is what the amount that's allotted for that subsidy would roughly come out to pending further policy review and decision on our part so it goes like this all of the homeowners pay for their driveway approaches and forty two cents per square foot which would be the perpetual rate assuming we never change it but it would be the on going rate that they would be charge looking at a five year window for those for that affected the subsidy my question is if we change that to three years is our collections schedule of that gift  is an assessment of fifty three hundred twenty one dollars for both sides and streets and drives that would allow for almost a five year period a three year period there could probably be a surplus of funds that would not an allocated to the properties ok i'm in no way shape or form of mathematicians all twenty nine hundred thousand square feet of site and what you're suggesting is that is what your question is nine constitute so let me recap if i may we would set the assessment rate at forty two cents per square foot for all property owners in this twenty five property or list for their driveway approaches so they're paid forty two cents per square foot for the driver approach square foot the sidewalk would be paid for through the heart of holl gift have forty two cents per square foot or approximately three years speaking that gives us three years to grapple with this question of what is our policy going to be going forward for future residential application so used to make sense phrasing that just for the residential not for rental property and businesses i mean what are you saying i refrain to get to all the twenty five properties of us whether you're a business or resident right so i guess i would move for central avenue what i'm proposing is that the driveway approach square footage be assessed to respect your property owners have forty two cents per square foot the remaining which would involve about three years i think since up so only the home owners are doing the their approach so the whole warners would be would be yes only paying for their driveway approaches had a rate that unless we change it further down the road would be the ongoing rate on the you have to subsidies here so they're going to come to know what their actual for the point of clarification maybe this is toward you ron do we need to put a timetable on this if we're going to have it open for discussion over the next three years if we're full intent just to go the three years which is going to give us i don't know fifty dollars if the calculations are correct over and above that should we amend the amendment or have them modify as amended to be time specific that this is good for the three years and then we will have the policy if we have the discussion have the policy amended after the three years each year you adapt assessment for that year and of course could change it and and have changed over the years that dollar amount for square foot so really the assessment roll we're talking about tonight is only an assessment roll or this coming year ok and so next year you would have to vote on the same thing  again and then presumably would follow what you decide to night could come up with a different formula next year so really time period is only a one year kind period but the concept is that it would run for three years right the three year thing i t's exactly something wasn't assumed right you know about and if i could make a clarification as well i'm kind of hoping well i just heard you say that the assessment for drivers would be at forty two cents  all right any other questions or discussions about the hoekstra amendment yes went well i think dave's got a great idea here for the next three years and the bigger question is what happens after three years and i realize were kicking the can down the road which may be different people here at that point but i talked last week about the value of the general value for the city that snow melt is we have city water city sewer city garbage we have lots of different things many of these we as a homeowner able to control you can turn your water lower temperature you can there sanitation things  garbage but when it comes to snow melt as a homeowner you don't really have a control over i want to turn on i want to try so it's a different kind of thing plus your neighbors are also using your sidewalk you don't own the sidewalk dogs their kids and there's themselves so i think it's for the greater good of the city it's not just the homeowner and i think it would be kicking the can down the road that at some point the city has to come to grips with if we're going to extend snowmelt to other areas other than central avenue and encourage that kind of thing we have this extra water it's going to be costly and i think if we distribute that cost right the community is going to be much more palatable if you live on to the plane you'll necessarily pay for just the two loops on your street everybody pays for it you don't just pay for the trees in front of your house everybody kicks in you know pay for the stop sign at the corner that happens to be a new house it's for everybody so i think we have to think beyond residential or a little fifty feet one hundred feet into the thing a much broader way but i think dave's got a good felt we have a motion that ended so now we need to if there's a discussion that could happen now but otherwise we need a roll call vote on the mended motion any more discussion yes david just one more quick note just the amount that now will be asse hand and the other thing too i think there's we were kind of talking about this before is it's really the with the driveway approach piece it's something they're benefiting from year round that was the improvement that was made there separate  piece and so in terms of what the homeowner is paying in this time frame when to your point about the bigger question here we've kind of got a gift that's helping subsidize it obviously but the benefit to the  being assessed to them so tad if i may i caught our finance director maybe objecting to some of the math the suggested math there and i want to make sure that we're on a course for what your intent was  and if indeed we're not we'll go back to making sausage i just want to make sure that you understand that it is not necessarily true that some will benefit by that plan i'm going to say that at some cases that's not true it so to clarify it but now they're being assessed for something that they're using your around and that is being improved my driveway standpoint to our cost more dollars but it's they're not paying in july out there they're being assessed for the driveway improvement piece tat just so for clarification but since that's what the exercise was for if i understand correctly we're going to send out a letter detailing what the assessment is going to be and i think tim to your point earlier rather than confuse the matter we're going to state to these folks on this list they were going to assess them for a driveway at forty two cents per square foot period thank you very much and of letter for the most part and so if that's the case then this site work square footage becomes irrelevant as we know it because to your point we basically have  escrow and we'll be paying for those you know the operational side out of that escrow account fair enough so really as we look at this spreadsheet you provided us the site what portion of it becomes a road so really that you know th to come up with a new assessment roll with this new formula that will be the proposed assessment of the property and you'll actually be acting on whether to adopt that role next week or not next week but two weeks from now on the nineteenth takes a team ok any other comments or questions discussion that looks like people are settling in our k and i could you call they're all for this passes unanimously thank you we'll have the same place for a year well we have to do another vote on it but you know thank you right creative plan so we have communications from the city manager brian todd thank you madam there is a lot going on and i know there are some announcements of some of you have at the end of this meeting tom i have six that i think are important for you and the community to know the first is that we're having a change of command for our police reserve officers at their annual thank you reception last night i know them on a first name basis jerry after thirty seven years is going to be spending more time doing other things and his leadership is greatly going to be assumed by ross who's been on the force for i think twenty years so they are going to be able to lead and so grateful there's roughly forty reserve officers and i see them all the time i know you do too and that's just indicative of how we rely on them and very grateful second item the principal shopping district meets here in this room tomorrow morning they'll consider a lot seven c and that possible develop proposal that you heard about your last meeting in relation to whether there should be a recommendation to you  for your october nineteenth meeting about an exclusive agreement to consider a development there that will be followed up by the planning commission at four o'clock next tuesday in this room as well doing the same d d a did pine maple and russian boulevard will need to look both ways to ensure that they can safely cross given that the flow has changed this of course has been the subject of many council discussions and it's part of the overall plan so number four the airport is braiding their business center new and that will be on thursday oct thirteenth at four o'clock at the airport and overnight received from the neighborhood environmental partners of the department of burma a two thousand and six team top project award winner for the living sustainably along the lake shore series that is part of an outgrowth of many people in the community in the library and especially the hollow hope college sustainability institute so that's here if you'd like to look at it and that completes my report thank you  ryan we also have some may our appointments and re appointments to the city boards and commissions me hall but it will be on the human relations commission for her first term it will expire in june twenty nineteen sirrah sanchez will be added to the international relations commission for her first term and that term will expire in two thousand and nineteen we have re appointments of doing parker or baker rather i'm sorry duane baker for the team court advisory board for his tenth term and that term will expire in january of two thousand and eighteen and then brant can brant convers he will be on the team court advisory board as well for his third term and that term expires in january twenty eight teen you also this is the national disability employment month and we have a proclamation to that and that reads as follows whereas the city of holland proclaims october as national disability employment awareness where in this month and where as the city will raise the awareness about disability employment issues and celebrate the many contributions of people disability whereas the city urges workplaces throughout the community to recognize the talents of all people including people with disabilities activities during this month will reinforce the value and talent people with disabilities add to our workplaces in communities and affirm the cities of holland's commitment to an inclusive community now therefore i nancy de boer mayor of the city of holland and the half of the city council do hereby proclaim the month of october as national disability employment on the city of holland and i urge citizens to honor and celebrate the achievements of a people who have that have contributed so much to our american culture in doing so i call upon employers schools and other community organizations  in michigan to observe this month with appropriate programs and activities and to advance it's important message that people with disabilities are equal to the task throughout the year that is definitely something we should all think about and work to do figure out how people are gifted everybody doesn't and no one has all the abilities actually we can define any one of us as having disabilities and some of us have temporary disabilities some have permanent but appreciating each person and figuring out how they can best contribute to our culture and our businesses who really make this whole place better so this morning we had the opportunity to welcome the michigan municipal electric association to highland for its annual conference the last time we were able to do that was back in one nine hundred ninety nine and so this was a great  event they're meeting out at the doubletree they usually have about one hundred fifty people that come to that conference and this was a historic attendance at two hundred fifteen so it's really exciting to see all those people there and there  they went on a tour today i believe of the new power plant so it is is just great to be able to host a such a conference like that and talk about all the issues about power production all the specifics about it all  engineering about it but also all of the soft things about electricity production that is kind of new to this generation and the political considerations the regulations of government and i think it's a great great thing that we could host them all here and i think it is inspiring to come and experience the how and the board of public works its leadership and its direction it gives it will give a lot of these organizations hope for the future so it's an honor that we could host that conference today also coming up is the america in bloom competition again it will take place this weekend in a row grandy florida where glendale california and they will be we will be participating as part of the circle of champions the american blue organization keeps changing things so the competition is tougher every year and this year we will be again in the circle of champions against three other cities in three other states including the host cities so it's not easy to win this and we have every time so we will also be competing in for all display overall impression landscaping and environmental efforts so we hope that all of that goes really well this weekend also this is and we lost chris turney who is here because of the emergency plan but at this meeting this evening but he mentioned to us that this is the beginning of fire prevention awareness week and as part of that we have the fire truck parade this weekend on friday so please come on down and enjoy celebrating the exquisite fire services that we have here in the city of highland we also have an act over seven dead highland d p w customer appreciation day so how many power companies appreciate their in traffic and ninth street the living sustainable group is sponsoring on the eleventh tuesday is sustainability and the ballot in november that we're having that discussion and november fifteen is i didn't know i could recycle that so these are real audience focused activities ways that we can learn about how to do power better and save our use of power as a as an organization as a city and because we are still in that georgetown university energy prize i believe dave said today to the power people we are number ten of fifty across the nation and we hope to keep edging up in these last few months so when in doubt turn it off in your use of power so we can have some statistics so if there's anything else that you would want to know about the city please contact us we each have e mail address and phone numbers i think we have a sly for that too so come on down or give us a call or send us an e mail and we'd love to hear from you we really appreciate the amount of commitment that this community has for everybody so are there any motions in resolutions by council members about yes let's do communications from councilman if you have it to be because you have a communication makes i'm sorry yes yes you don't get to have all the fun with the advertisement yet you got it commercial we preparation for all those beautiful flowers to come up the queen of the fest so for all those civic minded council members that voted for and encouraged plantings to be done and window on the waterfront and for any of the citizens of the city hall and that would like to get involved in that way in that shape way or form i took over fifteen is a great time to come out in support your community put your foot in the ground get your hands dirty little bit of dirt under the fingernails never hurt anybody when you on the waterfront act over fifteen two ships first shift from eight a m to ten a m second shift from ten to noon sign up on the tool time website come on out get your hands dirty have a little bit of fun plan to listen in the spring come back and see what you did we try to get i believe there are and if i say this wrong shell is going to get really upset but i think there are like fifty thousand tulips that we put in the ground in that area plus you and we need to help get them in the advocates for modeling elegant counties to have eleven nominees this year for our award and one winner will go home with a nice piece of crystal is this year's ability award winner it's a free community event there's no charge to attend have food drinks get a nice keynote address from a local restaurant tour and would love to invite you in the room but also you at home watching on television pretty simple to r s v p you can do it in a variety of ways you can email info at d and lakeshore dot org or you can call three nine six five three t resolution that you made earlier to greg make it definitely part of the permanent record so i would like to make a motion that we adopt the resolution that you presented earlier thank you mike supported by white men so all those in favor say aye right opposed same sign yes please put that in the permanent record at city of island wonderful thank you mike and the other motions and resolutions by council members sure you know well i'm i do one more thing here you know there was there was one little sighting this week that was pretty interesting for holland michigan that's never happened i don't think anywhere we had a flying item could you please run the little video here first ever macros in yogurt drone today they did a trial run they delivered it to the students at home college it took about fifteen minutes to travel a little under a mile the drone people at thirty mile per hour carry up to thirty pounds of road than yogurt chicago who owns orange leaf so he drove up to see this and he was pretty excited about highland orange leaves idea and jeremy was the one who figured this out  his he's also part of another company michigan i think you say it and the principal for that company is and he's the one that ran the drone and so they're using they are kind of developing their own drone industry and they're also working with police and fire services in the state and how they can use drones in law enforcement and fire attention so that jeff jeff goodman was pretty excited about holland he said he'd never been here before and he really liked it so that was an exciting thing we're very excited for that first coming to the city of highland so weird that here's our little advertisement for the event you talked about  just to be thorough it would be for property acquisition and discuss a legal opinion that relates to the property it was i would like to make a motion to go into closed session or view property acquisition in the legal opinion that's involved with property acquisition says thank you all right thank you for coming this evening and we will go into closed session