you this is a recommendation to council by the plane commission on monday night may thirteenth at seven thirty pm council will be hearing public hearing scheduled for fiore's conditional  get up now the status of the application is he's the owner of the property purchased in twenty twelve property location is the corner of pleasant avenue and nineteen the property size is point nine two seven acres the existing building that's there the old former parkfield bank building is thirty two hundred square feet the proposal for the fiore's italian restaurant would be to keep that same footprint except a little addition here underneath the existing can it be for the drive through is for kitch property this building for a sit down in a restaurant and for revised site plan approval there's modifications to the site that need to occur in order to convert from a bank to a restaurant the propert see for transitional commercial in the sea for transitional commercial zoning district sit down low turnover restaurants are a conditional use  facilities that the authority will require that they install to convert from a bank to a restaurant in addition there's water along pleasant avenue but part of the improvements that will be required to convert this from a bank to a restaurant will be that they will have to install a fire suppression sprinkler system so part of the site improvements include creating a water vault here running a new line into the building to provide a fire suppression system within the building already said the countess could be reviewing this monday may thirteenth seven thirty pm in the c four district sit down low turn of restaurants or conditional use in the zoning ordinance this type of restaurant is defined as turnover rates typically more than one hour and a ration food is who are ordered table side for eating only generates less than twenty combined am in peak hour peak hour week trips  one thousand square feet of gross floor area and that a gross floor area not exceed five thousand square feet the proposed fiore's italian restaurant in peter's township meets those definitions requirements in the zoning ordinance food will be ordered table side no delivery the total combined week the total combined peak hour we tracked that trip generation per one square feet of gross floor area is ten per one thousand square feet of floor area section seven or nine of words only ordnance sits fourth conditions through fee which deal with hours of operation parking jumps to location screening mechanical equipment and signage according to the restaurant the hours of operation will be eleven a to eleven pm monday through friday and on weekends eleven am to one am on the weekends the parking required for a restaurant thirty seven hundred square foot grows floor area is thirty eight paces the parking lot will be reconfigured in restraint to provide for total of forty two spaces including two handicap spaces the site plan that they're presenting to you tonight also shows the dumpster right now for the bank was located here they're going to move it away from the residential property line and located here in and close the enclosure on the north side of the building they'll put the exhaust vent fan for the kitchen area and they will take down the pole sign that's here and redo a monument style side and located here in addition the applicants have agreed to install a six foot high privacy fence vinyl to match the building in color and in addition they will supplement and beef up the landscaping along this residential property line where needed restaurant of thirty year old want washington be approved subject to the six eight conditions listed in my report i'll go through those requests one the six foot high privacy fence be installed along the entire length of the residential property line to the the fence material and color complement the existing building color scheme the landscape buffer between the residential property be supplemented with additional plannings were ga exist the existing pole side be removed and replaced with the monuments side no larger than thirty square feet no higher than six feet side permits be obtained the exhaust to and be installed on the north facing building building elevation the building be equipped with a monitored spoken fire suppression system approved by the peters township fire department dumps to be positioned away from the residential property in screen control so first off  nonresidential that adjoins a residential lot is required to have a buffer area a buffer or a is defined as a minimum of twenty five feet wide if you go the distance from  i first met with ed it was to review the nissho plans and conditions there's really probably cannot exist if you if you increase that buffer zone to twenty five feet at least in the existing configuration you know pleasant avenue is a residential street and always been a residential street it leads to mad meadow street which  entrance from pleasant news inappropriate it's also actually located within a twenty five buffet buffer zone which is actually not permitted by the zoning requirements so we would suggest that that entrance we really covered the issue of landscaping however one of the one of the other issues by there is like a couple parking places that were proposed i think for this location it sounds like they're moving the dumpster there so that those parking places would it exist but if they in the original proposal there were there are existing parking load as indicated before the regulations for for low turnover restaurants are under section seven zero nine so the hours of operation proposed hours of operation as discussed before eleven eleven may and to eleven pm and eleven am to one am on weekends those are really that is clearly do not protect the joining neighborhood  from detrimental noise disturbance or interruption it's six you do expect that if the restaurant doesn't close to those hours that some patrons would not lead to that closing time and also the staff for the restaurant would actually leave after that closing time so when people leave their start in cars or start motorcycles they're talking if there are people been up partying they can be allowed there  be people throwing stuff out of the dumpster or making noise with the location of my residence and my my bedrooms are actually on that side of the property that would be adjoining clearly those do not those hours of operation are way too late to not disturb especially my residence or the neighborhood if people are leaving and especially if they're going on meadow street and i actually get up fairly early in the morning to go to work so i get up normally quarter five in normal weekends and then when my when my work is during an outage i actually have to get up earlier on even on weekends so i would suggest that a more appropriate closing time would be nine p so the parking requirements so if you remove the buffer zone increases to twenty five feet the nine spaces on the west side really can't exist in their current configuration so as indicated in napa you've got thirty eight parking spaces needed just for square foot however the zoning requirements also require one parking space for every three outdoor seating as you can see there's a proposed patio as i as i counted up they would have there's twenty non existing spaces plus additional four so i believe it comes to thirty three regulation also permits other additional standards to be imposed by the planning in town council to protect public health and safety and welfare and dress the unique characteristics of a particular site one concern that we have especially with the propose hours of operation being so late in the evening is that the applicant may choose to acquire a liquor license we would prefer a liquor license especially so close to a residential neighborhood we think is entirely inappropriate you know with people alcohol you all tamale come with bad behavior and we would suggest that a legally binding requirement should be imposed to was change or sell the property or needs to be some kind of enforceable legally binding requirement to limit to the recommendations of this council and also of this commission and also the council and we would suggest that the entrance again from pleasant needs to be removed and really outs to protect the residential homes on pleasant and meadow from having  tree incidental traffic from people using that pathway to cut through to reach i also did a survey to find can if there were any comparable situations within peter's township so i looked at the entire route nineteen corridor through peter's township i also drove it down so use google satellite imagery to see if there were any restaurants that were located so close to our existing residential house or had restaurants located where the access would would basically provide residential streets as a cut through  path and i couldn't find no examples that were even close to this so in conclusion based on the above review i would suggest that strip malls that's perfectly fine with the objections that we have that i have are based on being so close and the detrimental effects upon the neighborhood are there any questions that i can address and is used as the shortcut to avoid the congestion at donaldson's crossroads if you are heading south but if you as  driver are heading south on nineteen and wanting to turn onto east mcmurry road in other words toward the high school and beyond that would be the preferred method of avoiding the traffic thus as a result of that currently in the morning when students who are permitted to drive and teachers who are a bit late are on their way to the high school we'll use that almost all the time my neighbor also tells me and i never paid attention to it but it certainly is true when you think about it if you're a lot boy and you're working on any of the auto dealerships along the road and you need to gas up some of your vehicles that's the road you will take to get some gas in those we have calls ok so i so i just submit to you that it is reasonable to see that probably fifty percent or more of the traffic on me more so than on pleasant which is mostly residential once you pass the the meadow street entrance and most of that traffic is simply avoidance of dogs and cross roads many times i have thought to come here and ask for a traffic calming system to put a couple bumps in the road you know to slow them down because most folks that want to use that are in fact in a hurry that's really secondary oh well it has something to do with the reason i am here that here i am here because of what i was a part will customer and i really enjoyed that bank being there quite disappointed when that service left us in effect ok however i realize that  the looking in the map in the intended use of the lot i see that secondary opening to the rear of the proposed restaurant and exit from the proposed restaurant really as a source of additional traffic coming to and going to that to the restaurant using meadow street and perhaps pleasant if you live in the neighborhood where the high school is you might just want to walk over the hill drop down and turn in here if this establishment is used as all all others are on route nineteen and that is that the entrance negress to the establishment is from route nineteen then that particular secondary outlet will be a disincentive to use the residential area as the path to and from the restaurant ok but also might add a couple extra spots for parking so primarily i am concerned that the traffic will get far greater than it is and become a lot less responsible than it is so my primary purpose here is to make you aware of not only that possible that likelihood and what i expected would be so i would ask that the entrance and exit be solely from route nineteen and a lot of the residents in that area will feel a lot better if there is if that is the case taking another call this and that was a statement of mine a question is i did hear briefly that it was not the intention of the new owners to operate take out service did i hear that that was a was absolutely not going to be offered or is that something that could be offered as it was  up and leaving which would add to the would significantly i would say add to the traffic patterns in and out of the store which is quite funny again if they are like other restaurants on one thousand where the entrance and exit  off of route nineteen ok also it would be nice to know that if they don't intend to you have apply for a liquor license that they promise never to and that part of the whatever is  forwarded to the consul includes the promise that a future liquor license is will not be permitted for that site so i know these are my statements and questions and i have thank you very much for your attention thank you and the other not to any great extent i just briefly went through it but i feel confident that if you're  if this site was being developed but you know from start today under existing zoning which changed in two thousand and five there would be a twenty five foot distance there a green area that distance now is eight hundred feet i think so it's an existing non conforming to do i seventy feet there will still be a significant amount of trees and it as well as a fence so you're the arduous road or guest coming off of it's an existing commercial property there are multiple existing commercial properties that join residential neighborhoods that have access to drive into that passivity it's a similar situation and i don't have an aerial here but there's a residence residential property directly behind the subway dairy queen and there's an entrance off  prefer not to have it but from a traffic engineering standpoint it's good to have multiple ways into now the traffic from the restaurant believe or not according to traffic engineers is less then a bank significantly less the access off of pleasant the pleasant avenue is is not a good idea from the mornings from serving up planing step when it's not a good idea just like we are talking about through multiple meetings you want multiple it has a liquor license it's going to have a detrimental impact is it is a big assumption restaurant we have it is basically almost in the residential neighborhood been used to be canned color now that is where it is hundred here i was thinking are they actually wrote down it's bank would be this would be the more than this restaurant is completely incorrect so you know when whenever anybody goes for a new application they are subject to the news only requirements to say that the conditional use if it was a if it was a bank that was going in there they would not even have to get approval if it was probably another profession office it would it would fall within the the existing approvals so but this in fact is requiring separate approval so the fact that you're to  say that the existing historical buffer zone that existed in time is somewhat not relevant if it be like saying well if we have new requirements for parking or signage in fact we do have a new new requirement for signage and that's one of the things they're your enforcing so if you're going to use that argument they shouldn't have to change your sign because the signage at that for that existing location should work so that's why i say the buffer zone and my issue with the buffer is the parking along that that west side is especially close to my house so that is probably the parking that that staff would be using because it's further away from the entrance to the building so it's also going to be the the the the parking that's probably going to be people costarring their cars or motorcycles at the latest part of the night so again it's it's easy for if you don't have a restaurant next your house to to to make excuses or rat rash rationalize away why it's no big deal but i would ask you all to consider would you want to live next to a restaurant or would you want to rush to move in next to your property i would suspect the answer is  gathered a petition of folks within their surrounding neighborhood who also agree that they do not they oppose this current application and i will present that probably existing use that was there prior to the zoning requirements so somebody tried to do that today i'm sure that would be totally non conforming to put a red cross drawn in a residential neighborhood so again that business and housing is what i believe is from my memory is that there was an arc that the existing residential close to that wasn't nearly wasn't nearly as close to my house and then good it appeared that there was a significant there was some kind of buffer area between and i assume that if the accounts are planning approve that that you would enforce the  on the other examples of the rush hour so he gave you gave examples or rush grants on route nineteen that clearly do not have any residential structures nearby so again if it and we can work with them we're not here to change their lives and the change is difficult and sometimes it's not always welcomed but it's something with the out something you want to work together you know we're we're open to change because we are we really  robinson owns the building or lucchino leases it tom robinson also owns this property here that is commercial so therefore you as you know permission from the property owner to put the premise directional sun so th beyond nineteen directing people to make this turn here to get to the restaurant we agree that there's a directional sign needed just thirty three square feet over our  corder i could see if you if we prove this thirty nine square foot sign that they're going to be coming in here next week for for their scientists it was plus we have other business is located off three nineteen corridor with that we would love to have a it that's what they were in discussions with you i don't think would you ever shaw eating form for signage such as this for the table restaurant it tables located in north to bayreuth in they're not allowed to have any signs for business outside the community along route nineteen in peter's for busi but we're trying to convey the information which is in a normal sign which is thirty square feet which is six by five and in the actual nine square feet falls with the information as far as making the right turn on the if you're coming north on to camp lying i don't know from reading this correctly too but it also says here i understand what you're saying about the twenty foot pole it is my understanding that the twenty feet would be actually if you guys are worried about the statics i mean of course we would want to be to scale with the topography and the landscape and everything so i'm more than willing to work with ed you know as far as you know really getting down as far as the way that would is that it would look you know so that the customers can there are a lot of issues with especially with the fact that we do only have the six square foot sign now on the corner of can plan in nineteen on the first sentence you can plan and one thing is it is very difficult you kind of russian that light type thing you're more concerned about getting through the intersection you're looking at the right for the restaurant at the same exact time  that's why i mean tom came up with the solution that being that he doesn't own the property on the other side that you see the sign the right five hundred feet or three hundred fifty feet or whatever it is will measure offs of you actually or through the intersection or  intersection depending if you're coming from north or south and you do have enough time to make a judgment call as far as you know to tar you know i agree with you as far as the you know on a twenty foot if the if the thirty nine is too much but you know in that area there i know that the classic bad you can kind of see down in the upper left corner there that appears maybe about a thirty square foot camp lane in nineteen is actually it's more of a hinderance that it's more of a bad thing than a good than than a good thing i mean it's a bad thing is far from the safety aspect of it you know and the fact that it's only six square feet you can barely read it and you know i'm very happy to say the we have a good bit of traffic that comes through the restaurant we were doing pretty well and we were very happy for that so there's a lot of people that on the weekends you know that are that are trying to funnel down through there and lot of it we possibly can first time customers even up at our familiar up on the go we've been we just celebrated our eighth year anniversary and constantly still getting new people you know so it's it's nice that they'll be able to see recognise understand where they need to go and have more than enough time to respond and to engage the term to get to the restaurant and with the fact that the building owner also owns the property cross  sure might be too small to get you know the information in the rush right the logo plus you know the fact that we have you have to have it the you know you get you have to turn right in five hundred