thank you and good evening everybody welcome to foxborough bush like when september eighth public meeting was starting a little early at six thirty to go into executive session and will conclude that at seven o'clock  meeting so the executive session at six thirty we're going to be in attended by our town council e a pelican time management to conduct strategy sessions in preparation for negotiations with the union personnel or to conduct collective bargaining sessions or negotiations negotiations with union personnel and this dealing with steel workers negotiations of police contract in the library contract and then we have an august fourth executive board like meeting minutes to approve and eighth meeting we just finished up an executive session and i described that they will go into the agenda briefly so just to let you know what we're doing from six thirty to a little after seven we had an executive session council came in with town management and updated us on the steelworkers negotiations the police contract and a library contract and we say steelworkers it's the town hall employees that are in the process of negotiating the union contract and then we approve the board of selectmen selectman executive session minutes of august fourth and we will release those right away so at seven o'clock we have citizens input followed by selections update at seven ten we have a public hearing with the renaissance hotel a patriot's place and this discussion and a vote to alter alter the promises and change of offices and directors at seven twenty introduction of the new employees seven twenty five we have the review of the double a bond rating process that randy is going to walk us through we had seven thirty five scheduled for town manager recommendation for salary just move which we can discuss at seven forty five  attorney franks blaine is going to introduce and give a presentation on three sixty nine central street which is the fox vale fox field plaza redevelopment and the discussion relating to an update on liquor  liquor licenses at seven fifty five there is a country fest deep grief the briefing discussion and from the country fest the previous weekend and it's an eight o five time image update and then we have a dozen a so action items that will do at the end or in between so jean if you want to start us with the pledge of allegiance so start off with is there anyone here for citizens input staff the administration for a successful beginning of the school year for once in a month the last time we did it before labor day but it sounds like it when pretty well so we thank everybody that we entrust the kids for a couple quick announcements on september eighteenth it's going to begin the p o w m i a twenty four hour vigil so michael johns asked if i could remind everybody it starts four o'clock on friday and it's held twenty four hours straight into four o'clock four o'clock on saturday and then at four o'clock we're going to have a ceremony the number of veterans townspeople officials the american legion riders in the rolling thunder and basically it's our way of giving thanks in tribute to the ninety thousand men that were prisoners of war and those that are still missing so i know in the past it's been a very formal started by the scouts where someone stood stood very solemn and was kind of hands off a little bit this year michael john says it's going to be a little more interactive encouraging the families the kids to come ask questions and have a discussion at any time if you want to stand vigil anyone is welcome to contact michael johns or anyone at the american legion to sign up for that a quick shout out to the jaycees over the summer starting in the may beginning in june they had about eight or ten concerts on the common a free to all the residents so it's a quick thank you to the businesses certainly the jaycees for running that again this year and also for cable access that made it accessible for i want to see it at home so a lot of families and people came to enjoy that  c s are having the general membership meeting it's this wednesday at seven thirty for those of you don't know what the jaycees are kind of a group that's going doing across the state foxboro as probably one of the stronger groups and they have a membership drive on wednesday the topic is do acts of kindness and service to others do do do acts of kindness and service to others really make a difference in what motivates us to help others it's going to get speakers going to be cindy m you remember she's the founder and president of the mcguinty scholarship foundation and she's going to share her account of how foxborough stepped up and rallied around her and her husband michael when michael was lost at the world trade center on sept  part of this also is the mcginty scholarship fund which they've raised chris about ninety million dollars to date so it's a good day to come out it's going to be this year it's going to be in summer it's a saturday the twelfth new group that forms we've had it at a table a little bit the fox for friends of friends of the fox for a flagpole so we jack off let brought it to our attention that the hundred year flagpole is industry pair and fifty thousand for the flagpole the area around the flagpole on the patio has to be replaced just to put a dent in what we're going to be doing is reaching out to residents this is not a taxable project and there is solid reasons for it dating back to the beginning of the common and how that came about in the upkeep of it in the fencing so jack author let the group feel very strongly that it's going to be a public outreach today even though it just started we raise a little over six thousand dollars going towards that and we're very optimistic within weeks and months we can hopefully get the word out is going to be some pretty exciting things coming down to to get people involved in that so keep an eye out  fireman's ball september eleventh for those of us that are going should be a good kind of a blast from the past bringing an old tradition back so thank you to the fire department for doing that that's on september eleventh and it's over at the lakeview pavilion so you get a good chance to see the new the new building that we just had the ribbon cutting for last week a couple quick updates on i think on the next meeting the twenty second we're shooting you  we're shooting they have the beacon compassion center back in front of us for more of the discussion and the scene where we go with that application and another item that we would like to put on the agenda is the fox for housing trust fund  that was a fund that was approved at town meeting and is about three hundred twenty thousand dollars that was giving in lieu of affordable housing for the town to do something with and if we don't do something with that by july of two thousand and sixteen it disappears so there's a committee that was enacted put together in that reach out to bill greta to see from the planning board if you can come as we're going through the process of hiring a new town planner i think his in the planning boards help will be appreciated so if we get that on the next agenda and again it is anything else that you would like on the agenda let us know and then one last thing bill ran out to get it couple weeks ago we were presented by the craft group jonathan robert craft a nice autographed picture of malcolm butler and if if you recall if anyone watched that game the super bowl that was when malcolm butler in a step to the seahawks passed on the twenty yard line from the twenty  so it was a little rushed but we wanted to bring it from town hall just to show the public in the letter that came along with that was you know this is this this is a gift that represents teamwork comes that's going to go in that direction but in the meantime i guess at the pleasure of the board if we could take this gift in accept it because it's a gift that's obviously more than fifty dollars and in the meantime we're thinking putting public library on display that's ok with the board and something to do with it we do because i know there was a similar signed autographs pitch you know one for the thousands of dollars so it's anything over fifty we need to formally accept so police and fire i think usually do jim michael johns vigils on the eighteenth it's on the it's not on the eighteenth on the friday night and then it goes on to the one thousand on the saturday and then also  for i guess if this is a good segue if we could get that information into the reporter having said that we set off goodbye to frank morning and i see vera you do now is here today so if you want to just be recognized quick for frank's replacement if there is such a thing is barack he just started last week there was a yet and i said authorial in the paper describe yourself so welcome to foxborough you'll be covering all the ok great so all of our e mails are on the website so feel free to reach out to anybody and everybody so we wish you a long successful journey here ok and the first item at seven ten i'm going to ask to take one item out of out of order i can find it the foxboro commission on disability is an appointment of lucy carter with the term expiring  i didn't want to wait till the end and if we did this in between i didn't want to miss him so susan do you want just come up and lucy that's an action item number two on the list so is mr develop i'm susan collins chairperson of the fax for a commission on disability and we did have a vacancy at this time and we're thrilled that lucy earhart has applied i've known lucy for and her husband thomas for thirty years they have a thirty thirty thirty three year old son with autism and a seizure disorder and she was very active in arc of  county where she worked with families of children and adults with intellectual and developmental different disabilities and she did that for many years and she just retired so we're going to take some of her time and we're thrilled that she'll ok so the next item is the at seven ten we're running a few minutes behind the renaissance hotel at patriots place scott williams and karen's tomorrow and attorneys for the public airing to discuss and vote on the alteration of premises in change of offices and directors if you could come to the table and we will read the public you notice the board selectman of the town of foxborough acting as a local licensing authority to or to mass general on chapter one thirty eight to conduct a public hearing on tuesday september eighth two thousand and williams who's the manager of record for the renaissance hotel and would suit you need your approval for a few items tonight the first is an alteration of premises the proposal is to me move what is the existing club lounge that's on the fifth floor of the hotel down to the first floor and replacing the spire in the first floor with the club lounge and then building two new guest rooms in the flights of the club lounge this is something that has been requested by marriott and they're doing it in all the hotels around the country and they requested us to get to secure approval to move this their goal is to make it more of as a ball more excessive ball to  people and i'm sure it's something that has been doing around the country and it's working so we're seeking your approval for that for the change the alteration of promises to replace the spad with the club lounge on the first four and then building two new guest rooms secondly and there were seeking approval call when management which is the license in the application would be purchasing the shares of  it did bring a couple of pages just make it clear on the application ok all changes are happening within the existing footprint within the existing footprint basically moving from the floor of the first forum and putting into rooms so the only only thing all changes ok motion to hear a motion on the alteration to the book to make a motion that we approve the alteration of premises for the renaissance hotel index of the new directors and accept the new doom more than once yet except the new directors university i should say in finance or regional planning as well as it's a figure of special studies in ministration in management from harvard university she will be enjoy enjoying a much shorter commute from now on which in that way she resides here where with her husband and two children in her spare time marina is also an active is active on the board of directors of of the north and soccer program so welcome and i think would like to like to say to the to the border thing kindness that brings her that brings her brings to the relationship a buildings and collaborating on multidisciplinary teams and that she brings to this office and she's in that which is essential for the excess of any field completely the board of health that and finally i want to just introduce kathy  experience and she has worked as a case manager for the adult foster care program at that arc of south south north fork she worked it has school and all the services for several years as the system at regional shine director has shot china's the serving health information needs of everyone of five paralegal cathy has many family and friends of foxborough husband paul has been a meals on wheels strieber foster for over ten years kathy has a winning personality and a great sense of humor which of course essential to her job as well and works i interview the finalists ok so mary beth malas coordinates the process from the beginning to end and then she works with it with a subgroup a lot of times to go over the subject matter experts to interview folks in their or their field down chair depending on how large of a search or how large a candidate pool and like bill said generally we do phone interviews to talk to the biggest group that we can narrow it down to a smaller group of finalists bring those in for a face to face interviews  and then when we have two or three finalists and again i'm not usually a voting person on the screening committee which i would we would recommend that bill me that you find lists or whatever to be able to see that where you know what's good is the fact that we're seen the talent level being drawn to our community at this point which is really exciting to see because i know that you're every organization goes through a transitional and i so i would say during the past few years foxboro is really seen some some really really significant changes has drawn some some great talent to the community so i'm very very pleased to be able to present folks of this caliber to of the double a plus bond rating process so we thought it was a good idea for you to come in and present what that means in layman's term for the board should also for the public because i think at the end the public is what this is all about and if they benefit from it  why it's there and how we got there and what that means create i preach a the opportunity to explain this to start off at the the most basic level you know what is a credit rating for a minuscule entity basically it it's what the people who are buying municipal bonds and we've got to borrow that's what they're looking at to peg what sort of interest rate they would bid on our bonds for the better the credit rating you know the lower the interest rate highest you can get higher than that and there's double a plus which is where we are is double a double a minus and then this trip will be in there or there are ratings below that but once you're getting getting down to triple b and below in context what just happened here in july and what happened was is standard and poor's who rates foxborough of credit they initiated a credit review we hadn't gone out to borrow  just over three years and so all the credits that they monitor they at least like to do a detailed credit review once every three years so we have three years of initiated the review and we went through the process supplied all information back and forth and discussed everything and and they ultimately what they do is they reaffirmed the rating that we had which is double a plus so there really wasn't anything to gain in this rating there was that there was everything to lose but some of the good news is that we we  we reaffirm the rating i think it's probably more instructive to talk about first off how we got to that rating and then where we're headed what we're looking to do beyond this back in two thousand and six when we stability and all the other context that you look at for foxborough represented so the next time we went out and borrowed in august of zero nine for the high school building here i changed the rating agencies to standard and po s and those are the two primary moody's and s and p and at the end of that rating review process they bumped us up to pegs from a minus two to double a plus so it's in two thousand and nine when we actually initially achieved this rating for the first town for the for the town this time for the town next time we went out to borrow was in three years after that was in february two thousand and twelve actually we did a refinance and even we refinanced about five million dollars in debt and when you do that you still notify the bond buyers to determine how they're going to price what they going to bid for you bonds you still need a rating to go out to go to market so we went through the process again they reaffirmed double a plus and then four months later we actually went out to the market action for new money to bond the library project and the oak street water treatment plant top point one million and again four months later they reaffirmed the double a plus been stated to us in clyde in the rating here we believe we have an opportunity to do that the next time we go out to borrow so whenever that next major building project comes up which ever one it is it is our intention to do a full blown presentation you know live in person typically they're doing these these ratings reviews telephonically and you know sending a lot of documents electronically but we were going to do that this next one in person because we believe we've got a great story to tell and we've already been given an indication as to you know what is what is it that they're looking for that we need to do in order for them to even consider that and that is t formalize our financial policies meaning to actually commit them to writing have them accepted by this policy board here so that they are our financial policies we do have we already have some financial call sees we have investment policies in place obviously with the amount of funds that that that the treasurer manages on a daily basis we have investment policies that are very solid what we have on the the other end of things which would cover things like debt contingent liabilities like oh pab and pension reserves budgetary policies operating and capital revenue expense risk managed net and long term financial planning what we have the know is areas is very strong operating practices and that's why we're given a strong rated strong on the management scale is that we have in practice we're doing these things but what they want to see is they want to see that committed to writing and i want to see the policy board having accepted those so that they know that this is the guide by which we will measure ourself financially going forward so  we will of vetted a series of financial policies all those that i just mentioned we are then going to bring them to the audit committee reengage the audit committee and have them review refine and then ultimately have the audit committee make a recommendation back here to the board it would also be important to socialize them with the school committee and the advisory committee as especially the school committee because the policies that this board you know would ultimately adopt or modify or accept it will be policies that will be pluggable to the you know the entire town obviously including the finances associated with it with school funds so it's a collaborative effort that's why the minority of communities actually have them but it's the right thing to do in order to get to the next level last point i would make and take questions is how do they do a rating there are basically seven categories one is they look at the economy in the area ours is obviously very strong for a variety of reasons that we all know snyder  of the craft entity all of the new growth that we're seeing you know coming on board the hotels and the development the fact that we have a very strong commercial to business percentage mix of property we have a very desirable seventy five twenty five split seventy five percent residential twenty five percent business many communities would love to break below ninety percent on the residential and so we're fortunate there  then they look at your management and in this case here it's through there in the interaction with you and then also what are your written policies and you know what you actually do and what your performance been budgetary performance  you come in on budget you develop reasonable budgets do you do you stick to them budgetary flexibility when tough times come out you know you have to manage which we do that very well liquidity we don't do any short term borrowing  there's no need to be surprised i mean communities actually do that and just go out to market you know to do a simple notice you know to be fifty seventy five grand just to do that and you know pay paid back with the interest they look at your debt position how you managing your what they call contingent liabilities but it's the old have liability the retiree health benefits in the pension benefits they look at that which we are very strong in all of those categories and then they look at something called the institutional framework which is in essence the institutional framework that we have to operate within which is the state of massachusetts in the federal government and how supportive and consistent they are and we have no control over that but the good news is that that's obviously very strong foxborough so across all these categories you know where we're very strong in the in the one area that you know we can make an obvious improvement in this to formalize formalizes policies that's that's in a nutshell i could go on for another ten minutes but i we what you've done here is that you built everything except the ball and so that's the one remaining piece that i think that will that will so well to standard and poor's and certainly will push us over the top i think what's key is a fact that you have particularly is very structured in its rating process and that they the next very next step would be to go to aaa apolo that they feel comfortable that these in the public bus with a positive outlook was there for a while which has been right so i think we're well positioned to get to the next level and i think it's also important to know the because i think when we talk about these things a lot of people think well you know the town is flush with money so as a result you know we can just we can do anything we want to do when whenever that happens i think the most important thing for people to think when they come through this process or come out of this process that it's not that we're flush with money it's set up and that the money we have we measure very well and i think that's what the rating agencies say to us by looking at all the processes that we do is that whatever money we they have it's managed well it's protected well and it's invested well and it's and you position yourself well to protect yourself against any significant downturn in the economy or in your in your local global situation so that's what they look borrow but more such a contrast us with them but just to understand why did they get downgraded not out of ours recently downgraded and the reason was is that they have dipped into their stabilization fund four times over the last several years just to balance their operating budget i think you for those of you of listen to me talk about the stabilization fund in the past know that it is taboo once you touch your regular stabilization fund that is a red flag immediately reportable to the rating agencies and then you're being watched and is a short term or not and so obviously there you're unable to dig out of it at this point so the fact that we were able to  everything managed well we don't necessarily you know we're not necessarily flush but what we do have you know we we manage it as prudently as we possibly can as taxpayers and the board would expect really quick question if you want to walk up the ladder from where we've been to where we want to go if interest costs instead of borrowing at three percent to be borrowing at two and a half that's going from a minus to double a plus so so we achieved that back six years ago and so that saves us about a million a half in interest charges you know over the last six years  but going from a double a plus to triple a you're already a very good credit so the the variance in the interest rate is much smaller rule of thumb is about fifteen points that's what you know that's what we see you know we look at you know what communities that issue a aaa plus or minus and you can see the trends in our financial advisor tracks that for us and so it's easy pretty easy to see what the differences are a fifty basis points that means you know what point zero point one five percent of a of one so on a million dollars that's fifteen thousand a year on a twenty year bond you know that's you know it's one hundred fifty thousand twelve a couple of anyone else have questions you know with the new growth and new businesses come in come to town and expansion development you have any idea why because market value fell by three point one per understand when looking at assessed value i use is that you're looking at values that have been recorded eighteen months ago so when you're when you're looking at the value that's in you know associate with your property know that i eighteen months old that's just because it's based on based on data that was and that ended eighteen months prior to being valued so i would say two months ago we were we were still coming out of it and it's it's really there's no simple answer other than that's what the market in this town experienced you know what it was it was i believe it was more so on the on the commercial side than on the residential side this year but it that was that's what we experienced in their report as saying it if l o three point one percent over the past year not eighty miles right now i'm saying that the inflection point the point that they're measuring is eighteen  know one of the questions property taxes make up sixty percent of revenue how much of that is residential how much is commercial what's what's the breakdown it's it's approximately seventy five  not a one hit wonder thing this is as deluded to it's the long history of the town for a long history of the policy boards and and the voters and taxpayers there's no one right there's no from operating practices which put a lot of our running things now to formalizing into policy in time of a timeline in which steps are you going to plan on coming to us to there are policies there are several policies out there that you can look at obviously they have to be fox paralyzed and that's the work that lorraine is doing right now it has to reflect our experience how do we operate but to answer your  specific question about what is the what is the interaction with the policy board and this is this is open to to the board redesigning this right here and now or you know or later if you like but my thinking was is that the audit committee you know would do the nuts and bolts work i'm very happy with the group the tommy audit committee a good cross section very very very good group of people and that we would make our either with the retirees or how to begin to invest in for open planning those are recommendations that came from the audit committee so my thinking was is that we would replicate that given that that's that's an appointed committee that you know who is charged with looking at such things and make ultimately after their vetting make a recommendation to this board here and we can go back and forth as many times as is the board would you know would like you know this  radios those policies on trivial because the ratings bureaus again to audit you to the letter that you know how well that you are hearing those polls you know when you when you come back you know the next time around you know the policies that you put down that road map and they're not that difficult to validate but so so that's why it's not a small matter to formalize them because they have they should be things that you know that would be easy for any person any lay person to understand where we are on the key financial policies is a one page dashboard you know with you know here's the policy here's what we've achieved checkmark that can fit that on one page and it's easy to review and see as we're going through budget process sees you know how to affect things in the processes for the advisory committee two different things that there is dealing the budgets and all that stuff but do and larry thomas i'm very happy that to have larry on the audit committee and looking for to engage in there so you know my expectation is that a not only would i be looking to bring these back to the advisory committee to review them with them but the we have the planning board planning master plan we have water and sewer to developing their water master plan so the town is really getting everything together where approaching going twenty three so formalizing everything in really  you know working together and yes there really grace that process of working with the various committees actually very interesting some really good ideas get exchanged during that process things that we you know i recall going through the process just to get the formal part policies and then we went to issues of our capital development the issues that things that you know looking at over the longer term how we've got our best on monday in concert and put things on a schedule so that we knew what it was a quote replace a building  the most expensive assets of course so we wanted to make sure they were costly on that schedule so that so that the town's value in the in the in the value of their services that got the minish over time so it's actually very very interesting process it's  president and we work with peter frazier i think he handles at least half of the communities in the state of massachusetts he's quite good we've been with them for a while yes yeah believe since before i got here you can see sort of where we rank on on the the various metrics that they would be looking at it's an interesting comparison as well where i'll just say we're weak in some areas that we really don't have any control over  and that's why it was never fully expected that we would be having this conversation about you know going for aaa you know we were weak in opera capita income per capita  taxable and the income of the community is the income of the community and that's not to say that either of those is are bad shape but in comparison to other aaa rated communities you know we stacked you know towards that towards the bottom there but i think what what s and p is doing the reason one of the reasons why i made the shift is that they're giving more credit to the other things that are actually you may be swimming in a smaller pond in terms of you know how affluent your community is and and how much tax will property you have but you're managing within that as best as you possibly can in the risk to default is to minimize so i think  you more credit for that than the moody's does believe s and p's aaa list is thirty five communities so about ten percent of the state where is moody's is six it's interesting to why i got some correspondence from a couple board members with a lot of questions and all and i think going back personally i think this department were randi sets is probably the most important department you know separate from public safety in saving lives the health and safety of the finances is paramount in this town what we got back in this is not a slight of what you gave us but it was a one line that said this is my recommendation for randy i wanted some more you can go back again before your time the time manager is responsible for doing the review so i don't think anyone on this board wants to or is qualified to do a review of our financial director but i did want to hear some of the goals and objectives in the department of how they how they're working i want to see the contract i want to see is pas raises in skips of raises and things like that but i think we owe it to the board to least have that information and have a robust discussion rather than just taking your word for this is what you recommend then recommend i mean you put a number out there it's hard to say did you want more or you know get i agree i mean it was one lie that i'm with nothing in the packet to back it up so i mean nobody could make go so nothing against what either anybody's doing it's just so at that point i'll turn it over to you frank i'll turn this over to you i say that we've been watching it from the sidelines as you've been going through the different boards and seeing the updates and it's pretty exciting project we need to be rebuilt it had some additional elements to it which made it even more exciting which i think is what they're doing here as well and ultimately ended up with over the much more vibrant location that everybody in the community was very happy to see and see brought back to life so my experience working with jeff is that he's very responsive to what the community is looking for as well as the fact that he has a really good understanding of how these types of plazas work and what  two reasons actually why to give you a brief overview introduction to the proposal and also to talk with the board about the possibility of having a town born article for the fall went  redevelop for a number of reasons originally central street was the main entrance some street used to be route one forty and there was nothing really behind it at the very beginning and that's why everything on the site faces central street as the board knows or two buildings on there now what i call the eleven the l shaped building and the foxboro furniture building which is always they'll be we do on the inside and the outside to looks brand new also there's going to be a hotel developed there and three pads two of them for restaurants and one for an office of some kind right now we're leaving as a bank and we hope to get a bank in there probably some kind of offices as i know the board knows there's been a number of developers a big wide being the last one that's taken it all the way through the permit ing process but the end didn't develop there are many reasons for that mainly because it's a tough site it's in the highway business district but it's really surrounded by four districts one is residential which is across central street and also behind the l shaped building also there's still in the area as well as i would business which is zoned but also you have a mansfield residential district so because of all the different districts you have different setbacks different requirements  not only within the highway business but from the other zones so it's a very hard site developed but i think just done a great job with what they're trying to do and jeff and get into that little bit more but them what they're trying to do is make the main reason why they located the office and the restaurants in the front there so you know that is their main entrance and that's where the wired portion of the traffic is going to be coming off of route one forty and that's the reason why the opening  another board is aware that we've been in front of the board of appeals for special permits and one variance all of those were approved right now we're in front of the planning board and we'll be going front of conservation with them with regard to this project even before we went forward to boards we met with all the neighbors to go over it with my dish from them a lot of positive feedback from them but we also met with tom plante at the time the building commissioner the town manager to go over there show them what we're doing and get their ideas and their input with that  the focus is going to be coming off one forty so we can draw other people and we feel it's going to be a real need for the restaurants to really make this development very much sustainable so with all that  group this is the type of redevelopment repositioning that we have done for many years we seem to be attracted to very well located yet very tired somewhat white elephant properties and we try to take them and create a growth district we try to create an energy significant redevelopment improvements and it ultimately creates jobs and it generally expands beyond just the work that we do because the whole neighborhood seems to benefit from repositioning these properties the good news for us is that we're a user we have an affiliated entity that will build and develop and operate the hotel so we didn't need to pick up an asset to begin to work on and then go out and shop for for tenants so when we came to the site we knew that there was a demand for a hotel and the hotel that we're planning on putting here is a one hundred thirty nine room hampton inn and suites hotel which is a limited service hotel they just  serve that free breakfast in the morning there's no bars and there's no restaurants the the property as frank said when it was originally built it was focused on the traffic coming off a central street and of course central street is an old route one forty in and foxboro boulevard i believe became one forty and now the one forty is out here commercial street one of the biggest problems this site has had for quite some time is trying to get some income into the pocketbooks of the tenants because a lot of people don't even see it and they don't know that it even exists and so there are some wonderful people that i'm in there for years they're all ten and it will but several of them i think would be a good fit for our redevelopment plan we've talked to each and every one of them and even though there are ten wills they're really quite wonderful people but the volume is really tough you know i just was eating at the bangkok cafe five minutes ago before i came here and the food was like stunning but i was the only customer on a tuesday night there was a lot of takeout you know five six people running in after take out but you know all the people that are in the two million square foot cabot park across the way in foxboro park are people they're moving on ninety five or up and down route one forty they probably don't really realize the kind of restaurant that i ate in tonight so the one thing that we've done so far is we began to talk with the neighborhood we began to meet with the department heads we went before planning we're still in the planning process of the zoning board of appeals has been wonderful to work with and so are our thought is to open up the view corps door off of route one forty and we've met with your conservation commission there's a lot of wood wooded areas there and we've developed some plants that i think they're very comfortable with for us to maintain on a perpetual basis the sensitive areas that's in this area that's right now presently very wooded you know there's no pile on sign presently out here on commercial street so many people just look at it right now as a back of some old building because as you drive in from route for one forty that's really what you see you see the back of the building we expect to close on this property within days our money is sitting in escrow and the seller has to deliver a couple more documents but i think mr smith is finally going to be selling his property maybe as soon as two three four five more business days may take another week and a half or so but we expect it will close very quickly what we wanted to do is come into it today to give you sort of our feel i didn't bring any engineers with me but i have a pretty good understanding of the engineering so if you have any technical questions i'll try to try to answer him but our traffic impact studies results that we that we read in observed is about eighty seven percent of the people that come through this parking lot use of s a as a cut through from central street to route one forty and only thirteen percent of the people actually are doing some business in the shopping center so what we want to do is not to discourage people from using this this retrieves an old fashioned lantern type lamp post with sidewalks on both sides with walkways from the hotel into what's going to be a remaining forty six thousand five hundred square feet of retail space and we wanted to move to line up the new pads that we're building along what we wanted to make it feel like a main street and by doing that we feel that will significantly slow down the traffic and in front of the hotel at this point right here what we did is we created a race table with a different material such as papers so that as people come through that main street it won't be all at one level people won't just continue to speed through there will sort of slow them down with that raised but that race table we think it's a statically very pleasing but it was designed that way to just slow the traffic down there stop signs and here now you really observe and they just keep you know just keep scooting right through it was a gift are being you know yes again just a suggest forward in forbes boulevard intersection it needs some significant improvement and so we've been looking at a lot of different options here but the ultimate decision is in the hands of d o t because they own all these roads and we are just about finished with the traffic impact research that we have in our engine yours to prevention area working with d o t to try to figure out what to do in here i mean one another option is four way stop signs with flashing red at all times another option we're looking at is the possibility of of a a roundabout and so there's a lot of economics that go to a part of most of that decision if not virtually all of it is a d o t control decision we have been all over this site engineering wise  e pretty far along in our detailed engine nearing for the site the d o t wanted us to totally remove the drainage from the connections that are out presently out on central street and there's a crown in the site just about where my finger is is flowing and so what we've done is we've taken all the drainage from here over in these cases and and cleanse the water and then we're bringing it back over to this side of the site and then we're also controlling this portion of the runoff in these pieces here and ultimately all of that water hooks up now that line mansfield with the connection that we're disconnecting from but we didn't want to we didn't want to  take clean water and throw it into dirty water so what we did is we just clean the water which is quite costly in a site like this but it's working out very nicely and i'm not an expert on and the engineering that to preach is done but it's pretty extensive then the water's underground after we clean it here in these faces and right now the parking is almost right out of the cur so what we've done is we've pulled apart again there's a lot of planting areas we've worked also with your fire department to be sure that they can get trucks the size that they need for a hotel  around all sides of the of the hotel the forty six thousand five hundred square feet that bill thing is is old and tired and we thought we'd put a new england style facade on the building with dormers all new reuss all new each v a c equipment course it'll all be sprinklered sprinklered now that everything will be brought up to code the hotel the biggest challenge that we we feel that we're going to have here is here is trying to make sure that the site can be seen but at the same time be sensitive to the conservation commission's needs and i think that we've accomplished that and we're working with right now on the formal plans but on a plane or a basis i think  they were glad to work with us if you have any specific questions i'd be delighted to answer because when they catch basins and you want a collection system there it looks like it's above ground and everything is below ground but this is  yes but we are we are not putting anything out in central street so everything from this side of the site is going into the face and that is connected underground coming out and then everything from this side is coming into the base of right it's all going to can see in this area and a lot of what was done under here was constructed by man i think there's a lot of piping and everything that goes underneath underneath forbes for people of ard how close is the hotel to it that's in it was in foxboro good though toes of the foot feed off of the side yard which is what's required on his own so that you know i have to go through any approvals and nancy you know we're not whatsoever and we all know how to land  be intersection i know the last time that was a huge thing do you anticipate it go right through with the o t is that going to slow things down without a section i think you're speaking of is down by you know haven't seen the final traffic study yet but so said what we've been told is the numbers are much less than the big y's numbers so long hoping that it's not going to trip anything  right to that intersection that you speak of that has not a become and we've been on this now what frank about five months you know and it has not become an issue at all for us even though it has been an issue in the past under big why development this this issue here is an issue that we're very concerned about because during certain key hours you know it is it's it's a bit of a mess there and so there's enough paved area here for us to consider around about there's hasa bull problem getting a signal because you have to have a warrant that the d o t decides will work and that it won't be a broken system but the reason you see a signal there is that that's what we thought would be a really good solution when we first started work on it but something has to happen there to improve it i mean it's not a great life but you know it's it's pretty the planning board process i would think our next meeting with the planning board is of temper the twenty fourth i believe they cancel didn't think it was going to going to be for the template think and they moved it to the twenty fourth a question on cafe right what we'll do is if they elect to stay and by the way they would like to stay is the message that that i can deliver to you because i think they've been there twenty three years of catering there's a big empty here there's about twenty six thousand square feet right here harvey's been using it as a warehouse for his furniture first furniture that's a bit of a challenge that's one of the reasons that we come before you we've had a conversation with a significant package store and that we think could be a good use for that box that we've been talking to the fresh markets of the world and you know the small little little markets like the sudbury farms has one but we don't have a user we don't have a user for that that's a big challenge because it's deep and it also goes back behind this district but i'm sure i'm sure we'll look at to a solution the the type of restaurants that we envision we have no restaurant report to you but i mean it could be an applebee's you know today applebee's have have a need for a liquor license it could be a better restaurant a better a better quality restaurant  park and with what metta texas doing here now and ged and and the fact that it's only a quarter of a mile off and ninety five i could even vision you know a much better restaurant like to try to tour your romano's could do very well well there's a lot of hotel rooms that you guys know when you're still a demand so and there's a lot of the sports bar type restaurants already in place jake in jos and ninety nine so i can i can see us attracting a higher quality restaurant but in order to do that we're going to we're going to need to provide for them a opportunity to be able to have a look a license to meet their needs mean this is interesting for us but we don't i perv you is really liquor licenses and anything else is just a liquor license is that your yes ok so let's do the math what would we have there now we have bangkok we have antonius and that's it have they probably could market more these up a little rock of of some wine bottles there but apparently i think the sun operated a small beer and wine package store there of me to you know expand their operation to give more to go food people coming in grabbing ready to go dinners for meals and things like that and having the beer and move the they want to be able to expand what they could so that's a good thing about them as that is you can eat there very often because they give you a lot of food you know it's a heck of a nice product and the other thing that if it wasn't for their takeout business they probably would have already been closed because at night they can't stay open past six o'clock because nobody even knows you know it's there physically but i've had many conversations with the family and i think we'll be one of the tenants  that you know will will want to stay and they'll certainly you know that redevelopment opportunity for us and i think you know i think they can afford to stay you even though it's going to be a you know place it's a lot of old and tired you can't believe how many people are license site specific similar to just not green so that's too new in one new dimension maintain the existing ones that are there well the ones that are there will remain  record yeah exactly yeah frank as you know there's no all alcohol licenses available so in order to do this you believe the process is go through a special legislation process for it and it is as part of the master plan you know how would the nodes was set up how we debated the last year actually to find out how many we might need to roll out the master plan and to take care of these individual nodes so it might be a big question   your departments and all the boards we might be able to demo to foxborough furniture building yet this fall and do some foundation work and get the hotel open by the spring of two thousand and seventeen be the retail space we expect to begin to break a spring we'll work on wholly in the background working all the design work and begin to break talking to us you know that we we wouldn't mislead them that we know that we would be able to accommodate them based on their program meeting a beer and wine license or looking license excuse me which  soon as soon as feasible you know because we're starting to have dialogue with people you know right now and of course we can't offer that because there's not available in the town where we'd like to be on the february special time you want that information together the legislation itself the wording in everything wouldn't wouldn't be difficult if you base it on what they did in mansfield they just did some legislation for site  so they have but one exam is they've already worked out the language it's more or less like in but what we have to do is know what we want to play again and that and i thought we were going to tackle that to this fall town meeting but here is a is a definitive plan with a number on it and people are either going to say this is a nice plan we can support it or they don't write i work is a lot easier to write your word was which was not existed before because we were doing it you would have to come up and and and her concern was when we want she wanted to have a wire not built that was really good that was very easily acceptable to town meeting and that was why i moved in to the research we got relationship with the hotel being able to just walk in every restaurant the reason for having a liquor store is just because that's the square foot is of can fit in there the need for a liquor store in town is something that i don't think was anticipated in the snowed restaurants where for the all i think you know but not elect restore so that there's some thought process and discussion along that line but as far as a site plan of vetting it through the process i haven't heard a lot of negative other than the past projects fail because of traffic or what have you but he's certainly spent a lot of time in the detail the thought process which i appreciate on this i plant and he may have met with the neighbors and yes we met i think with somewhere between eighteen and twenty one families and we met with them for hours some of them were there with us to three hours and we were very very pleased to hear their their thoughts and they they had some real great concerns of course like behind the old retail building there's an old fence part of it was it was it was in good condition part was accommodate over their concerns you know by putting limitations in the lease when garbage people can pick up the dumpsters you know when delivery people can you know can deliver put signs up so that or somebody shows up with a delivery he doesn't park in the back of the building and sleep there until the stores open in the morning and then many of them they have been been wonderful i think a two or three of them showed up at the at there's only board of appeals and spoke on behalf of the project without us you know asking them to do that so it's been really a good relationship with the neighborhood naming of the streets before or after the break of the plane could change and bill said that if the plane does change with the planes not approve that those names will go back into the pool and be resurrected for consideration elsewhere come up with some kind of strange mean streets you know and so the thought was well maybe we should go historical and get kind of the family names from you know the names of historical families in the to us paid by bay colony i dated august fifth that said on behalf of briarwood construction at the request the board of selectmen to name two roadways in the proposed london estate subdivision one for jack got the letter in one peterson and then they go on to explain the reasoning to name the street after those two families they also said that they stork and he told the members and it sounds like they had no opposition to this so i guess it it goes down to yes we do we do have the final yes or no but there is a process and part of it is historic  part of it is out of respect for all the other people that are on the list we short cutting it or creating something or sidestepping or to your point why i think something before they maybe you know i just said you know this is it unusual  project in ma bell and it had to be named after a war veteran question whether you knew the person or not so they had a list and then if you do a roadway you go to the next one and you don't feel short cut it so i just don't know what our policy is on that so if it's ok with the board i think we it's sounds like people are happy with the recommendation but take no action tonight and find out what the policy is and if there's a list out there and how this fits into it will be good for them because we microphone in it we need your name and address for the record comes up is that the developer has a cul de sac of almost thirteen hundred feet long which is four hundred you feed longer than what is allowed in the regulations of eight hundred feet so  technically he's breaking it up into two roads when it's really just one one year old it's in there but the issue really is should he be given the extension from eight hundred feet to go twelve hundred ninety feet that he's looking for in order just to sort of maximizes the number of houses there which then creates a whole lot of issues in terms of septic and water and roadway ok planting catch basin so he's saying if you if you add roadway a take a sho turn go on a roadway be add those together it's more than what these two hundred ninety one hundred ninety feet plus the two houses at the end of the cul de sac don't even have had they have zero front on the cul de sac they're off a little drain it's well if you can pass it for another hundred y been in then that so that would be possible a bring it back onto main street but there's no plan for the roadway to go on to main street that's just a drainage easement yes ok so two to two separate items i mean that this i don't know where this is on the planning board and zoning board in the process will either uprooted disapprove it on their own their own merit and i guess our question is if it's approved by those two names appropriate and what that process is where is this in the process of zoning board and planning board planning board they've been through i think four meetings right now and there's been no review or no comments by the planning board members so we're still waiting to hear from them as to all of the issues that that have been raised they've been through to conservation commission meetings and they still haven't got any proof other than just what linda delineation from that so i would imagine it's a few more meetings with i welcome back continuation of our second theme we took a quick break so a couple items left on the agenda we just finished off the foxboro plaza redevelopment discussion so country fast thousand and thirteen medical treatments in transports before that average in comparison to previous such events most of the treatments related to dehydration excessive alcohol consumption there were no reports of any serious injuries or fatalities some of the medical treatments there were three hundred ten on friday and two hundred ninety ninety on saturday medical transports two medical facilities fifteen out of friday and fifty two on saturday formosa's performs a started at four thirty pm on friday and fo twenty pm on saturday performances ended at eleven twenty two pm on friday eleven forty pm on saturday the licensed end times of both class were eleven fifteen pm accordingly the performance ran seven minutes late on friday and twenty five minutes late on saturday it's important to note that there were no curfew violation penalties applied for either of these and these nights as you prove these causes occurred in november of two thousand and fourteen and prior to the implementation of this new license requirement that began in january two thousand and fifteen traffic on friday night was more of a challenge at the beginning of the constable was not considered out of the ordinary for any of the weekend stadium events traffic cleared within seventy five minutes following the conclusion of the concert on friday evening and sally's event had scheduled parking lot openings  one pm but due to favor weather conditions the fans came early and which resulted in earlier packing hoping of time i love twelve thirty p m pianist notable condition traffic moved one only before and after the event on saturday some noise complaints were registered on saturday in the early morning i was due to a support group by that occurred friday following friday night's performance following the foxboro police did respond to these complaints and disperse the party is also know that the two complaints were registered on saturday night during the performance  loud music the building commission respond to both complaints and took just measurements but did not fight at the music level exceed the noise violation standard of ten decibels other observations from those assembled related to concerts the concerns of a bus packing in some of the impacts that this crowd can have over of all those fans who will commute to the event bus passengers will often consume more alcohol than those who drive their vehicles it was observed that long lines and for bathroom use particularly with female bathrooms led to some really behavior it was suggested that some additional what will device may be needed to relieve this congestion finally excessive drinking continues to be a concern that the staff would like to address we welcome the opportunity to work more closely with n p r staff to try and come up with some creative think you guys usually do this after him yes well i have been here i have been in place for the previous while last year believe it was just one it was look riot last year so it wasn't really a country fest for say there were a couple of the performance i believe but not the same level that this event typically is and so this is the first time that we've that we did it and i actually discussed this with the members of the stadium advisory committee they thought it was a good idea so that we can actually understand you know if there's ways we can improve upon this  experience because we were pleased to see that it was actually better than previous years and so we will see if we can continue that trend in the right direction that obviously then i think that's positive for everyone and now it's a good idea i mean we have after actual reason and i was introduced as a selectman he turned to me and he said you people don't need you you should be having more public safety people and you know they have a public safety in the store and out in the the man who was with him the other police officer just kind of like like that and walk out so i never knew whether i mean that's what i experienced but i don't know whether that was officially if that was evident freshly taken into consideration i don't know that it was  the public's police but but the internal safety safety team that works there had close to a thousand members registered for this event to work this event and whether they actually had that number is a different think i think where you believe the culture is trying to change a little and which are which in the right direction i think and i also think that the actions taken collectively by the m p s staff as well as the you know public safety staff of the town and state police of have really helped out a lot as well so we want to continue that trend we want to keep it going in that direction so that this that it's to this event becomes a all kind of gone up to see what see what's going on and get that lately and stuff like that i mean is it possible to go up when you see somebody from like out of town that he's going to match them to say hey how's it going how do you feel comfortable but this you know any problems and then  which is made up of the selectmen the the water was sort commission of the planning board so that group really focused on the extension of saws and how that's going to play into the development process and that also plays well into the discussion of to try town chamber meeting she spent a few minutes after the meeting to talk with us most of our specific issues and we had a very good discussion with her and a follow up meeting will be held with secretary the secretary coming up the next week because well so we're we're tied to the belt those relationships and trying to get more support for some of the local things that we're working on as well as in the tri town region  public awareness discussion on september sixteenth at the at the library in the community room so anybody this has further questions or issues about that they may actually reach out and just provide the opportunity for the board members to answer not likely become effective until next october soledad we'll be hearing more about that in the news but just want to make you aware that this week the page is home open and on thursday night tonight we had soccer the stadium with  which the revolution played on the real grass on sunday night in and out the game is being played tonight on the real grass natural turf after the game is over they'll actually bulldoze that out and get the field the actually the actual turf field ready for the home opener on thursday night against pittsburgh and then following the game they'll get the stage ready for a concert on saturday night so i would want to be one of those group i was up there this week there to literally working twenty four hours cuts an aging in human services to make a motion that we accept hundred dollar gift in memory of mary scuse me in memory of mr and mrs bode jack from elizabeth rose august fourth august twelfth of august fifteenth april twenty eighth march seventeenth march third when you are twenty  forth zero one and then lastly at the back there's a whole bunch of information i skimmed through it and some movement on the parts of the damn updates and some of