i do have a variety of different prepared statements that i was thinking about giving but i did want to inquire first of your honor's whether there were any specific issues or questions in your mind that i may not have addressed in  an injury to property for purposes of recall a hand on account of which there is a financial a concrete financial loss from a very very valuable commercial use and the reason why it was taken was because of a financial value to the positions that stole in the first place and that is very well brought out i believe in the complaint i mean i think this is mean are are you suggesting to us is the problem is that you didn't get a lead to a man to spell out these other quote let's say concrete actual loss of my because there are those that you're talking recognize that issue and i think this that the allegation in all instances the money was part of the the injury to the property of an individual and any other clear important to me you know what you're telling me when you talk about one's property and you said that's a question for the jury that's correct ones property is referring now to the isn't over anyway because these guys defrauded us of money that we had to pay them to do x and they didn't do x is that correct that's correct r have the considered a sufficient property interest i was somewhat concerned and mentioned in my my opening verdicts that there wasn't any order by judge parker there was not any discussion whatsoever regarding the allegation involved or taken in this circumstance because i don't have the evidence that i don't know what actually happened with this procedure at this point i mean that's the purpose of being able to do it we just go through a modicum of discovery  the money in order to get the money the material that was generated by the procedures we agree on that well they have to spend more money to try and get more embryos or for fact that you agree they didn't spend that money in order to get money absolutely not i thought and the money in order to be able to assure themselves a chance of getting pregnant that's correct ok so when it turned out that  get pregnant and they have been interfered with in some way why is the loss not in the nature of the loss not in the nature of emotional distress because  regular ordinary personal injury and very understandable so i'm not questioning that i'm sure that they were horrified and for that there is a remedy an district judge rules on your last motion to dismiss the first time it's ruling on property as such on that part of the complaint because apparently it hadn't really ruled previously on the something of that nature but i don't think that's very important that's what the district judge said and if i hear and they're saying to us now look we should have at least had a lead from a man and to say if you didn't think if you said i'm going to sell you i'm going to sell you a widget and it cost you ten thousand dollars and instead of that and how marketers do it all the time if you send me ten thousand dollars you're going to get a money was recognized as property under state law not otherwise inconsistent with the rico statute then are not hypothetical there may have been my claim is going to bring i just want my ten thousand dollars that because  alleging today that they have lost some portion of their personal money for the for undergoing these procedures number one there was no allegation that from the very beginning these procedures were unnecessary the pla things were just left over but there's another scenario another scenario is they didn't need to do it quite as often as they did they did it more often because the doctors the friends saw it was a cash cow let's get these patients to keep doing it let's live with them about whether they how many of these embryos they need and were charged for doing the procedure and that will give us more embryos left over you know many more than need you know that we will advise them to get if they were just concerned about their their situation and we're going to pay for more because we want to have the additional ones that we can implicate more than one interest but i but i want why all these things and then again well it is a painful question of possible amended complaint but you know we have to worry about other people and other complaints in other cases and that's why you know we did this procedure because we don't like to and so they can have the pleasure the benefit of having our children if you're thinking about that ever for me with you next year minus arnold schwarzenegger yeah well the close this case i would come up with for that would be the case which seemed to indicate that you know as a way of recognizing that i don't know possessory interest in this material it will be x ray machine and they were carelessly left there while without a leg to cover it feel like killing all potential for human reproduction that would be different because allowed to limit the use of certain kinds of property because they have control life just as limit the sale of alcohol or the sale of guns and there are all sorts of limitations on the use of property we now have a situation where we have tangible items that reflect the potential for human life and the question is what do we do about it and the answer that has been developed is what what and why isn't the answer   the language the reason why it was take in the first place was to make the kind of money or be part of the kind of research projects that were going through a wound or participation in extremely high financial rewards from