our first case up this morning requires from holding orders requires a withholding orders unless there's a written agreement reached at the time that that order was entered on august nineteenth i personally asked the attorney for the petitioner if i should make things direct eight hundred dollars that i gave her in the month of august shows compliance with the month of august so for two reasons why this the trial court never had jurisdiction over the issue of marriages because the way to enforce the various is by filing a rule no right open house car i filled out an open house card the final order of dissolution provides that the minor daughter will go to other elementary school unless she otherwise qualifies for ailes we knew at the time that she was going to fire on the night that i had the physical custody of my daughter we were in the washington park and another parent and i were talking about schools and i said she was going to bother oh guess what they are having an open house night tonight so i took her to the open house night now what about the due diligence of the attorney for the petition or the lack of the due diligence of the attorney for the petitioner to say to his client what evidence you have of registration so why am i in court as an attorney representing myself because number one why should i go out hire an attorney and incur fees on the spur of the let's rule now let me speak to the legal merits of attorney fees i'm sure everybody is well aware of the supreme court case form i'm asserting today that the petition or the attorney for the petitioner should have filed his request for attorney fees within thirty days there's not one petition  process when the founding fathers wrote the constitution united states and they wrote in there that no citizen shouted private life liberty or property without due process of law they meant it and they did not mean that it would be ok nary proceeding for the enforcement of an order ok why the order was necessary to be enforced the final order of dissolution pat somehow magically provided that the not so your parent has to get permission for things that they do their kids on their time they just are duly goes on in order to say well we held you in contempt for violating the order of our fight if a patient really let me tell you a story about friday visitation i'm sorry but what i'm referring to is daughter on friday morning take her to work well where is it in the record that there's an order that says that tonight so your parent capek up the child and take her to work moreover in that same order the judge how we have contempt for that he goes on to say oh by the way you can have friday visitation harassment but i didn't file a petition for a rule i'm the one that's being harassed here you think when a client comes to me and says i want to have my former spouse held in contempt of court because they school in this district registers kids in january but to the extent they want to give the client one of the of the doubt they might say well what evidence do you have can you go to the school and get a copy of the registration forms now because they don't exist but that doesn't stop mr titian and harassing me and calling me into court so with respect to the attorney fees now now positioner so are responsible for the fees and she should be solely serve you well if you look at the record judge you'll see a picture of how my daughter looks right pick her up and she asked me on that day that she wanted to do something with her hair and look like a princess so i took her over there to the beauty parlor and they style for the doctor's things like that if you order if you have it complained about it you have to work it out with the primer silly and well i gave her private music lessons good but it sounds to me like when you say the things you are doing you are trying to interfere with the actions of the president still they know there has to be somebody who makes the decisions here and it's not you it's specifically on education education is the public education that means going to school and means going down to public elementary school or middle school or springfield high school or private college that does not include there's not there's no legal authority to suggest that a looks at these things yes to decide are you really trying to act in the best interest of your child or are you trying to cause trouble in this case i would be caught in trouble might be all right and i'm i'm amazed  cumulatively we have about i think well in excess of forty years experience trial judges we've been this kind of case with the to just folks and you can represent yourself and she has a higher charge but if you hire an attorney to file a frivolous rule you want talk about the tejas great scott how many cases have you had you for your experience were correct because it's right here question about the absolutes for pushing that far and what he did is he presented evidence he admits that there was an order entered on august nineteenth that requires him to pay august twenty third and every two weeks thereafter he admits he didn't pay the august twenty third pay first i mean it's not and they view us look at the worker and says august twenty three you pay six ninety nine sixteen never paid him if you don't pay the next two weeks later s on their order to form a full issue and it's been written by the judge on there if you look at the section on the payment of child support and there's always a time like this business of five zero seven making this order void i think i've never heard that argument or personally i don't think it has any legal credibility in the sites on authority but what happens in a lot of cases is that courts will because clerks don't know how to process the child before the court orders them which chose not to leave probably said that doesn't make any difference because that was before and if you look at this court order of august it says everything on temporary support before the time i rule is reserved for final disposition of the trial while trying then he says i had a withholding on september eighteenth not in the record by the way no evidence of that other than his he never paid the first two payments as i pointed out to the court not only did he waived the issue by going to court presenting evidence testifying cross examine my client and without limitation which he did and then he comes back and says oh no no no the judge should not yet have jurisdiction over the river quite frankly it was a benefit for him to be able to come into court and it but clearly he was in arrears and found support and it's thirteen hundred ninety nine dollars and thirty eight cents for thirty days that he's arguing my find has sole custody it's not a joint custody arrangement initially the court order says the child will go to the school that my client is the public's will based on her residence it doesn't say the child will go to butler i can you could look at the judge as a specific and we've litigator that with mr strat that the court said no it is wherever she lives and when he did this with butler my client in living but i'm not going to get into the factual issues of whether using an attempt or not we've got to look at the issue of whether he says there was a petition for fees and what about when two abuse discretion which is your standard of review so there's no even mention of that but if there is no abuse of discretion and if the court would look out at the start of m brief refer supporters to the beginning of the proceedings with regard to fees and he even attaches it as a addendum to the to the documents in the pennies and the court was a prised mister mr spratt was surprised though we had petitions for fees on file since january two thousand and ten the never let rule on by the court these fees were so shared with and i've laid them out in the three pages of my brief ever since we filed the petition we came to court we agree on everything we presented a judgment this trap refused to allow his attorney to enter the judge so we go to court on that during that process body of a year and a half and he says hey there's a landmine thousand you have to pay fox look at his comments eleven thousand oh my client got six of mr shier had to pay five of it and the work was there for all this and one whole year of petitions and and all these rules and then find him in contempt and specifically when he came back to the court on a motion for reconsideration in that order of the judge says hey mr strat we're not under fire wa dishes as well as for contempt and he did fine to make them in february of two thousand and eleven which was never feel what was after that was for a time when he would take the child and take the child before there was this lunch thing they got into a lot of litigation between the parties but he would remove the child from school and then he would take the child supposedly for lunch and the court told him if you do that if you didn't go to i believe that under the statute that those kind of decisions are made by the custodial but the whole body of the case was in front of judge in our view and we had motions to  enforce mediation to vacate a mediation statement by the mediator that there was no green reached and we had endless hearings that the court had petitioned for f historically people ask for fees throughout the litigation and then a court will rule on it when everything is done and that's what happened here we had petitions for fees for a year that were pending with entered march seventeenth two thousand and nine was there any ruling to few waive the fees by not pursuing it now until two thousand and eleven you don't have any he just made the representation to this court that he has several titian's for fees on file there's no  file secondarily let me explain to you the friday visitation which mr scott has said that i violated the court order because the contempt stems from this lunch and he also stated that there was file refuse to have the final order of dissolution entered i refused because the final order of dissolution that mr scott had prepared was not consistent with the trial transcript at which the settlement negotiations took place and i raised all these errors and petition refused to abide by any of them because all but a couple of them benefited her so i said to my then attorney diana cherry well they want to play that game the friday pick up time it is in the there's a mistake with the friday pickup is that so i would pick up my daughter at nine o'clock on a friday morning on a friday morning i picked up at nine o'clock now on one occasion i took my daughter over to my office because my office mate had printed out all the pictures from disney our disney trip and posted them on my door so i took my daughter over to work to show her that petitioner followed me into pictures of my car then she filed a rule and it was regarding lunches because she didn't want me to have lunch and more because i just wasn't working out for her and so the contempt is not rooted in any rule it's just something