agenda one has been withdrawn d p eighteen dash eleven ethan allen holdings l l c located at fifty three and fifty five morgan parkway two other items are going to start with eighteen dash twelve dennis white interior contractors inc mr white are you here come on up and have a seat at the bench just like road in the industrial zone in the district of west the property is currently developed with the family home as shown on the site are used in the industrial zoning district west where the town no longer allows the development of new residential uses but it does allow a broad variety of industrial uses including transportation and warehousing uses as listed in the staff report north america industry classification codes for nine the reason this allocation is in front of the de board as a pre application even though it's a relatively small project is a new site development with a new commercial building being placed on a property where there has not been a commercial building before so any new commercial building over one hundred twenty square feet that's a standalone triggers d r p review in this case it's it's really like a new site development so it does trigger the requirement for of the property the outgoing at this time is proposing to retain the single family home and leave it in a residential use until such time as there's a desire to further redevelop the property so the single family home the residential use we would see that plans when it is fresh air permit application is submitted landscaping planted at this point is minimal it's simply showing the existing landscaping the applicant did ask me a question before the hearing russia of landscaping i've noted that a landscape buffer or water should protection buffer may be supplemented by an eight foot type three or four buffer staff position on that is that if you do have to supplement of watership protection buffer with a landscape buffer that the landscape buffer can be inside of that fifty foot watershed protection buffer in other words it doesn't turn a fifty foot buffer into a fifty eight foot buffer but the top eight feet get pumped up with a little additional landscaping is necessary right away there there's no fear of life use of this building proposed right now it's it's just there for the outgoing to have some storage space for their business to enter on to the premises from time to time to put things away or take things out when not to work out of the building that said a three thousand square foot warehouse in the industrial zoning district west in an industrial use would generate demand for three parking spaces to the out of the show where those can be accommodated on site i did mention the weapons to the rear another potential requirement related to the weapons would be that that fifty foot buffer be demarcated with a fence or polders to prevent any moaning or intrusion into it as the site is maintained over the  years as i mentioned there's a relocated curb cut to shunpike road that's part of the plan for accessing the property in public works just commenting that an access permit from them would be necessary in order to do that pre allocation is the stage of the review where v can ask the applicant for a traffic study at discretionary permit staff is not recommending that the dealer be asked for a traffic study for this project i've already mentioned the parking there is no shared parking between uses proposed as there is only this one use proposed on the site that is nonresidential staff doesn't generally look at park parking sharing between residential and non residential use is currently no signage proposed  trash and recycling containers for now are still primarily related to the house use or proposed to be maintained within the garage of the house typical residential style there if the use of the property became more intense later on there could be an outdoor dumpster and that would require an enclosure not in our design review district so it's not subject to design review as i mentioned we did receive review by police fire and public works and fire a public works comments are attached to this report and referenced in the recommendations the staff prepared for the board which is a positive recommendation to move forward to discretionary permit taking note of those memos and a few highlights of the requirements of the bylaw stop there thank you much just a little bit about scuse me dennis waiting period contractors is located just down the pike road they plan on keeping their main operation there but have the need to store equipment maybe some occasional materials and want to have that done inside a building hence the application and it's close by their existing shop gives them the opportunity to store equipment when it's not being used  pretty convenient location the existing single family home will remain there are no employees there would be only storage so as matt said while we are showing space for parking spaces there wouldn't be a need because there's not they just took that stupid to the front of the house we can't keep two driveways we did we did talk we covered that with public works they want to keep it to one curb that's on you know the questions on the board a plane paving that all all the areas shown here as developed i guess you know tony where the parking spots the future parking spots will be given the location of the the overhead doors on the west side of the building that will either better have some kind of hard surface either paved or gravel ok go all the way back to where including most likely your parking spots it might be a little bit less than that depending on where the the overhead doors fall and see i mean i would just say that it would i would you this application when it came in if that was all paved that you were essentially were putting in those parking spots and we would we should just prove those you know i did that's you know this is a preamp so it's just a comment right i think that it's ok you don't mean just because it's missing stripes doesn't mean that there is not a parking spot there which you approve those i think we were just trying to show that there's there's the space for them if they were needed but since there's not to be any employees there would be really really be driven by the location the overhead doors and getting access and in and out of the building a question of or what do you envision the building materials being but right now i'm not sure exactly what the materials  so first of all as far as residential density is concerned the applicants proposing a subdivision which were will result in seven do well in units fifty three fifty one point three acres of land buffers and slopes in excess of twenty percent taken out of the density calculation and that lands with slopes between fifteen and twenty nine point nine percent be calculated at or at a reduced density of one dwelling unit per ten acres the applicants previous density calculations were incorrect because the acreage of wetlands was not subtracted the african submitted a revised constraints analysis and staff satisfied with that analysis so the revised analysis indicates that the parcel can support fifteen one units and the applicant is proposing seven units so as a subdivision of parcel of land ten and a half acres or greater this project's required to set aside a minimum seventy five percent of the area of the parent parcels  the applicants proposed thirty eight point four four acres of open space meets the seventy five percent requirement the applicants previously previously submitted site plan showed that some of the steep slope excess of fifteen percent lot for is mostly comprised of slopes exceeding fifteen percent and in fact there appears to be no alternative on this lot but to build on a steep slope so for that reason staff has concerns about the creation of lot for as it it basically forces development on undesirable terrain  a budding property owner craig sampson raised concerns about the proposed access rosewood drive and whether the applicant has the legal means of access through voting properties the staff is recommending be require the applicant produce documentation proving that they have legal means of access to the subject parcel the rosewood drive and we're recommending that  i was ok if you're paying attention to come out of our short little recess you're back up and running you're back up and running fantastic melinda if you would kindly pick up where you left off let's start up again sure  crosses over the town line and into shelburne any changes to this access road or any other proposed developments and shelburne may require a permit from that jurisdiction staffs recommending this is pre application is the stage of the review where the deer be may ask for traffic traffic impact study if they so desired staff notes that in willesden seven additional single family the applicants revised site plans show a landscape buffer along the east side of lots one through four and south of the driveway and lot one steps recommending that a fifty foot buffer of existing forested vegetation beer retained around the perimeter of the divell development where possible and that in areas where forced to vegetation is currently lacking that the applicant provide a minimum nine foot three landscape buffer in other words informal planting statute to regulate existing or continued continuing nuisances that may not be development in other words to regulate or prohibit the storage or dumping of solid waste to compel the cleaning her hair of any promises which in the judgment of legislative body is dangerous to the health or safety of the public and to define what constitutes a public nuisance and to provide procedures and take action for it to bateman or move as  the public health safety or welfare may require the reason i mention that is that i'm december fourth planning staff received a letter from a budding landowner james beecher communicating his observations of potential past dumping of solid waste on on the subject property planning staff followed up by contacting the state waste management division and requesting their investigation of the subjects properties history and any potential records of any past or current investigations or violations of the waste management division staff responded saying that they found three past occurrences on neighboring properties but that all matters have been resolved the d or b may wish to consider requiring the applicant to conduct further investigation authorised the applicant will proceed with the residential growth management allocation request for six additional dwelling units staff is recommending that the air be authorized the applicant to proceed to growth management review in march twenty eight all also i forgot my notes on the printer so going from my memory but in general we wanted to resubmit what we had proposed which address the first three comments that were related to steep slope and revising our personal boundaries those were proposed the last time i met and we've made no changes to the plans of further we've also looked into the landscaping and putting that on there and corrected our density calculation so all of those things have been addressed additionally and our submission to you but we tried to take care of two concerns from the neighbors that we heard from that meeting and that was related to  boundaries so we submitted to you the plaque that's on file in the local land records and the other concern was neighboring well and the potential for contamination for the waste water systems for the remaining items i would like to hear from the d or b and any other questions are you guys may have relating to our submission or re that there really isn't any other choice on that l be maybe preemptive without knowing for sure what the slopes are and or if there are steep slopes fifteen percent although there build up all but maybe not preferred there was potential  be something that we do want to do when we got a discretionary permit really live that we could probably even get that information on our way across management mark for is currently between fifteen and thirty percent slopes there in that window which allows a reduced into the of development yeah when you're calculating the density you take your entire parcel and you subtract out everything that you can build on while and send steep slopes which are at the thirty percent user advise density calculation number for fifteen to twenty nine and then you come up with a number and from that number you can put the lots really where we would like outside of the thirty percent and outside of the wound as i do understand what the staff is saying that it's not preferred slopes actually are if they are something that are on desirable see if there's another location if not then maybe that's only one of those lots doesn't get constructed down there but i think you have do you have some place on this map that you would be putting it like say you put it in front of what five yeah  would read it and here is if you do know anything about it now reading that i was shocked i don't have what's happening not sure why you would but maybe you know know the history of not i don't know land i have started working on this project in the year two thousand and sixteen as walked the land and has walked on the land i didn't see anything to as an effect but then again if it's sub question to a board regarding mr beecher in his testimony you know i think that that should be i think there should be an investigation done at least if you can go up point out say this ravine isn't here any more than someone might want to or questions are coming toward oh if we were i would that is a big do a test there and there's a problem then i think you're talking about potential expansion of so it's one of those things that if there is a problem that we find here then the rest of the site should be potentially looked at but i think it should be focused where it was darkened to there is construction we suppose and we buried man because i'm not privy to how large or how many areas that mr beecher could identify on the plan for the potential way and it sounds doing so as we were discussing how we're going to figure out our initial investigation area it might be why it's because i also don't know the best way to do it either to discuss with somebody who has experience with this to maybe first look at where james features identifying these potential wastes second what type of development are you proposing in these areas third what types of development could potentially cause just urban's to these areas should there be things there and get an expert's opinion on how to proceed forward so we'll discuss that deliber that as far as were lots would be laid out it could sew andrea did a delineation just has not been confirmed by the state yet so she can give you zero information and water's running off that cliff and there's a small the pressure at the bottom of where water is pulling and i did also notice there are some disturbed areas on the site there was an area that had some stockpiling of rocks which then had some white lines next to it which you often see from disturbance from digging in the ground and then we have a depression where so as far as the concerns with class t these will be confirmed by the state as they always have to be whenever we find that we do an assessment and there's some form of wildland on the property that will be done and the spring time when the state opens back up their co nfirmation season and so i was at the discretionary perma level will definitely have our answer we definitely want biograph management because it will still be winter time but korean see proof that the access that the right to the applicant has the right to access the property legally there was a there was a letter there was a letter sent to the board on december it in earlier you know sooner than sooner than later we can do that for sure ok question because he brings up a question about the private road appearing to be greater than the ten percent grade a good man could you if you could stand up and state your name and your address pl you impact you impact well and with your wastewater design you proposed to the state after they deny it and the ones apartment also has to approve or deny your amp to those wetlands this is general information we're putting all of our sceptics together in one through to the first on the northernmost system so the northernmost system is being used by the new cabin that is the system that the trailer used to use in that trailer was up there so what we planned what they did the cabin you see six and seven will attach to the forest main up there and since they're stopped off now because the cabin took over they'll just want to trench down from there over to the other system well this is this is the pre application and this is a kind of a conversation amongst the applicant the board and the public and staff and they're not being to build anything however they are being they may be authorized to go out and spend a bunch of money and do a bunch of work to see if this is a provable in the future and that would be the discretionary permit process at which time at which time it's open to the public hearing the hearings will be warned and as a butters you will be notified and we'll go through this process again  is what we want to do we're not sure if we can do it we think we can do it now we've got to go out and get you know get the experts and hip which which i know mr dubois you know who would who is concerned that making that that they the applicant make sure that everything is accurate and then we meet back we meet can we come back depending on the length of time it takes for the applicant to get all of the data pulled together and there is a lot of it and it gets submitted to staff staff staff goes through it carefully and and then it gets a hearing gets set and the board starts looking and people get well you know don't understand the process sometimes can you know worry that it's all being done right now it's not this is this it is it's a discussion other questions ma earlier that's that that would fall into the purview of department of environmental conservation i'm going to guess maybe that they have well logs and well placement and they're going to understand where the right away the wells fall within the right away that does come but that will be yes you don't need to raise your hand were you know the board the board in the back and the towel i would hope that that information all comes out as we work toward discretionary permit assuming it does have not direction other comments or questions benoit now one of the things that is supposedly supposed to be resolved between what's behind your property there's supposed to be some kind of lock barrier so that maybe what you may be most interested in is how that is go yeah and so you you trees or whatever it is to create a more right in conformance with the by a law and a lot of time is what will do and probably do with this as these houses in this location will probably be the last ones but the buffer can be the first thing to a bell so you start by planting your trees a senator approved plants and trees autumn grow and then when it comes time to actually do the building you have a  start off with a tree that's talks table the not like i just i don't know more how do i describe like a varying species and very heights type of buffer but the stuff that we will be able to discuss with you you know through want to be good neighbors like that ok i think five seven seven three those are the two people that are re authorized by w t v six dot six three i already moved at the wilton development review board having reviewed the application submitted and all accompanying materials including the recommendations of the town staff and the advisory boards required to comment on this application by the wealth and development by law and having heard and duly considered the testimony presented at the public hearing of december twelfth two thousand and seventeen and the recommendations proposed by staff with a review of d p eighteen dash twelve and authorizes application to move forward to discretionary income and review great thank you to other second i'll second that all seconds any further discussion no further discussion all in favor  six eyes no days motion carries or the motion to approved d p eighteen dash i'm sorry i'm going to check one thing please and i call yes i did i yes as authorized by w d v six point six point three i john hammel garn move that the wilson development review board having reviewed the application submitted in all accompanying materials including the recommendations of the town staff and the advisory boards required to comment on this application by the wills and development by law and having heard and duly considered the testimony presented at the public hearings of november twenty eighth two thousand seventeen and december twelfth two thousand and seventeen except the recommendations proposed by staff the review of d p eighteen days zero nine and authorize napkin to proceed to residential growth management allocation you're going to add a couple of additional recommendations recommendation number six the board advised of a potential landfill on the subject parcel and will be seeking a legal opinion and may require additional information from the applicant at discretionary perm any further discussion for the discussion all in favor i  have a motion to approve the minutes of november twenty eighth two thousand and seventeen i'll make a motion to approve the minutes of november twenty eighth two thousand and seventeen as written