that there was going to you general downsizing a consolidation because of last work today i think also it's important to the southwest division remains the interior design expertise center for this to independent contractors and this was this way of showing was no work or proving there was no work but there's absolutely nothing in the record to suggest there was anything new about giving big projects or certain projects to contractors outside of our system apparently the long standing up process that continues today so i think especially today where all this outsourcing has become the thing around the country another on the two people who said that because the plaintiff would accuse those two people now the last of those people were under oath and were good sources of information regarding whether or not the workload had declined and again this private fact i've been discussing  last week i think most importantly certainly the district court noted and i think this is the most telling thing you know this is sort of where's the beef in this kind of case where we have a raft the district court noted that no one w really the big this is really the evidence of whether it was pretax here or real consolidation and downsizing causing first step offer and eventually the rest with between mr fall of anyone else when he made this decision and i don't think it's an accurate reflection of the record and i don't know this record as well as plaintiffs counsel perhaps since i was assigned this case later but i do not believe it's accurate to beautiful and rare gift from japan at his retirement that there was a constant big picture throughout the years in the office with mr farrer taking an active part and enjoying this as much as the you that's not true and that's what this court should i hopefully recognize the district court was careful to separate out there can be contractual language there can be circumstances where calling someone a harley in the context of the  conversation could be deemed derogatory but it's not automatically derogatory just like plaintive claims they call the ems the same meaning apparently wise man was he claims he took offense to that or that was an offensive comment on his age but most people wouldn't automatically assume addressing another person whatever age as a stage would be considered derogatory we have to look into actual conversations and so on but the real point here your honor is not whether or not th occurred i think it's in the fabric of the state of why the people of hawaii when they get together and work places i don't think it's really i don't think it's uncommon it happens every workplace i've ever been in and that's not really the point here i think workers to be says that in the workplace this is an appropriate action to take given these circumstances so the management met its requirement under title seven if he was suing just for that and certainly there's no indication that anyone turned  ear or a or actually participated as plain as possible claims and attacking him on the basis of race whatsoever we have testimony that several times the opposite happened when the counselor the supervisor rather counsel the other workers to be more sensitive and they did have periodic training i believe that same record shows but the more important issue is when we're talking about race discrimination here and whether that has any contact any connection with the rest we still have to look for that connection and that's what the district courts that she assumes that those promises were made and she's willing to assume he found the most sensitive then she looked to see whether or not there entire project and tell me anything and i tried to go through those and i don't see anything it's interior design is important great is being done here apparently not and you know on one level i have a hard time believing that  and when you look at the words you have to take that in context with the rest of the discriminatory statements like you're an old dinosaur you're an old fart to those you know just if you take out the word sage by itself for that's fine but if you add it to the other comm