there are times when it's not appropriate to salute and one of those times would be is when your hands are full and let's take for example you're coming into the cademy in the morning you've got all your books call you've done all your homework over the weekend and but anyway your hands are full you mate the young private on the way out of the academy go into their car and they salute and say good morning sir real loud because they say hi what's this see what happens ok what do you do just return the verbal greeting don't get excited and drop all your equipment on just return the verbal greeting now if it's the other way around if it's the other way around then lifted person's hands are full they should still initiate a greeting to you good morning sir good morning ma'am and you should answer their verbal greeting there is not a requirement to actually to salute no salute was initiated  junior person but i would encourage you to go ahead and give that person a salute because those other way around they would be saluting it makes them feel just a little better if you do that by regulation you're not required to then listed folks will work for you somewhere no matter where you work and they make a lot of money and if they feel good toward you and respect you as a person and as an officer they do better work for you than if there's a bad feelings between you so anything you can go to to let them know hey i respect you as a person i'm platen courteous to you you be polite and courteous to me i think it makes a little money for us on down the road who pays off in the in the probably own vehicles we refer to them as peal these at one time you had to salute if you recognize the the person in the car to be of senior ranks if you were right in your car and someone recognized you they would salute you thank goodness we don't do that anymore it was hazardous to people's health you know you're trying to drive your car and salute you so we were we're not saluting with the privately owned vehicles at one time they had the little blue stickers for officers and the red stickers for enlisted people a green sticker for the civilians on the bumpers and you had to sort out the blue stickers if you were enlisted and when you saw blue sticker you saluted in the ladies on the way to the commissary and somebody's mother in law and she doesn't really understand what's going on she says so the kid's got a nervous twitch or something you know so when i salute the privately owned cars but there's something that you need to really be aware of those cars that someone painted that ugly green oday color and we call a military civilians on the front of some of them you will notice a placard and it's either red or maroon color and you have one or more silver stars displayed on the front of it whatever you do salute those stars ok salute those stars it's very important a few months ago we  had a general here academy that the only way to work one morning he said good morning in the military way to some folks and those folks stop in the down the snack bar the next day and said make you more you didn't do your us yesterday morning and said good morning to us what's wrong with that as well you don't understand we were late for class and we were running and we didn't see the sedan and paying attention to the stars displayed on the front of it and he  over and said good morning gentlemen and we says all high and that probably run the proper reply and but they were concentrating on getting the class no one really thinking about other things well anyway they met for about three mornings in a row very early so that they could be on time for class in the future and they had a look class on how to salute and the captain stood on the steps and salute each other a few times each morning real or early as kind of a  remedial training him out say so when you see the hand with the stars on the front of it salute you don't try to sort out who's in the car who's not in the car and there's kind of an old joke about that that the officer looked in  no one in the back seat of the car and and the stars were displayed on the front so he says ha i'm not going to salute me walk them back and i guess the general just bent over to pick up his newspaper and when he raised up he's our bob all of this young officer walking by not saluting and he probably talked to him about the plaque on the front of the so day and if it's red with stars so over stars on it that means it's an army general if the background is  mutual agreement between the army in the navy in the air force and what have you in the marines that's about all we agree on that we do agree on that a time that you must salute and civilian clothes are you might receive a salute in civilian clothes if you enter a closed post and by that i mean there's a gate guard and you pull up in your car and x you've been in the army for a while your privately owned vehicle will probably have a blue sticker on the bumper because we read servier goes on post and and they give off her blue sticker so you pull up to the gate and this poor little gate guard has been thoroughly indoctrinated about general orders in fact they wrote him on a plank and gave him to him and laminate him with plastic so he didn't forget them and a sub a little later on underneath all that so you salute all officers when he sees a car pull up it's got a blue sticker on the bumper that registers with him because about ten more down underneath that is is this is blue stickers belong to officer so he's figured it all out and and you see he stops you and ask for your dedication because you're in civilian clothes and you get in that id card with that good looking handsome dignified picture on the front of it that they always put on the cards and he looks and says dignified looking at this person as i'm sure they're an officer and they give you the card back and he can really sort this all out but he says salute officers he's a it won't offend him at all ok and that's that's one occasion where you may be saluted in a p o v in civilian clothes which normally does not happen ok are there any questions so far about what we've talked about around and cover those stars up so we'll canvas cover on that and when the general comes back in and gets into the car the driver should go in uncovered again that does not always happen but i wouldn't gamble on it i just go ahead and salute anyway something else is if you're hot if you're riding with a very senior person in a military sedan you get into the sedan first the right rear door is one the driver will open you get in first the general will get in the last because he should ride in the rock rear corner of the sedan when you arrive at your destination and there's someone there to greet your what have you in the driver opens the door the ok when i went to the colors or played your own post and and do use a load i'll answer your question like this yes in civilian clothes you do and i'll talk some more about that just a little later on we'll talk about that just a little if you're in a formation and while you're here you'll be in several formations what do you do when a singer officer approaches your formation and you happen to be the class later and everybody standing in the class what do you do you call a class to attention if you're the person in charge and then you salute for the whole class by reporting to this person that's approaching your formation as you see here everyone does not salute if you're standing around in a group just just outside the building and someone approaches then all of a  and getting back to the colors are played in the morning we have revelation and the cannon goes boom the music plays and in the afternoon we have a treat and they take the flag down the cannon goes boom and music's plight what do we do ok when we're in civilian clothes we render the civilian salute by placing our left hand over our iraq hand over a left shoulder in this man ok if you have head your own in civilian clothes you take the headgear off and hold it over your left shoulder in this manner in military clothes you stop what you're doing stand at attention and render a military s if you're in the area and you can hear the music in the can and you know it's revelry or a tree morning or even in the in the case you just stop what you're doing no matter what it is driving your car or jogging run your bicycle or just walking along and you salute when the music stops playing that's your cue to drop your salute and go on about your business this being an open post and civilians early in the morning are trying to get the sa to post to go to work and there's a live on this side all  on the other side i guess because a lot of traffic going cross post in the early hours in the late evening hours so if you stop the car real quick and very briefly jump out to salute retreat or evilly be careful and look around and be sure you get your car off the street and exercise some caution because some of these folks didn't get the word about saluting when this takes place and they just keep grabbing on that good it could kind of ruin your whole day while you're here i'm sure they'll be at least one parade and if you can attend that parade while you're here just as a spectator if you've never been to one it's kind of interesting to watch and at the parade the colors will pass in front of where the spectators are standing and when you're a spectator in the colors or are carried in this manner and pass in front of you you should stand in the colors fifteen to twenty paces off to your left and they usually come from your left across to your right you should stand salute follow the colors across with your head master until they're well past you and then drop your salute and said i i went to the battle of roses parade last year in california  when the national anthems played on the national anthems played out of doors we stand up and salute when it's played indoors we just stand up military closer civilian clothes  the generous marches played the parades in the general the moving and going by probably where you're standing and when this takes place you stand up and you salute as a general passes some people think you're saluting the music but really  a few years ago the artillery had a song and it was called when the case arms go rolling along well army stole their music let them keep their words but stole the music and says we're gonna call less the army so and there are some new words to it and for those of you heard when the case ons go rolling along when it's played now except with an artillery gathering they still use it it's probably the army song and we should stand up and salute you just rising to stand there and to learn the song finished playing it inside outside military clothes or civilian clothes let's take a break just for a few minutes