the claims are just incredibly broad a lot of your brief i construed as argument about your three examples and how they enable and i absolutely agree with you and i don't think this or court disagreed i don't think the district court suggested a complete and utter lack of i think that his his focus or her focus i'm not sure was on thank you on the rest of the claims because i mean you would agree right the name it has to exist for the breath of claiming these are the broadest claims i could possibly imagine which is what you just would not know you're getting your monthly rate right now you're just getting the concentration argument as opposed to the number of the fact that i mean i'm just trying to think that the to the whole different dimension upon which the claims could be construed broadly because there's no concentration  seven requires an understanding of what the word stable means in the claim because he clearly delineate between long term stability i e longer than three months and short term stability i guess is the way he sort of delineat interpret the testimony i mean there's no need for interpretation the testimony that unequivocally cleaner i mean the thought of doesn't involve a matter of interpretation three of seven work and value for seven didn't work if you're looking for three months or occur would that possibly support your argument that civility is could be instantaneous if that certainly what i would think the ordinary meaning of the word would be but  what this invention is addressed to the specification discussion of the disease and the need to get nutrition and stimulate at appetite into these seriously ill patients so you're talking about a large population of patients in the united states who need this assistance during their treatment and so you're talking about the in that has to be commercially viable and have widespread availability throughout the united states can stability in that context mean anything less than three months what measurement tand there be for a successful treatment which is what this invention purports to be for this problem if you have to believe that last for something less of the problem that you're attempting to address with this invention rather clearly this presentation talked in terms of three months and you have depending claims that focus in on the forty degree celsius seventy five percent these three months and so i could imagine from a claim differentiation standpoint you're going to suggest me therefore claim nineteen should not be limited that way right so if you're saying but then i just don't know how to read the words table i mean because it seems to somebody would look at they would know how to do it what exactly is the path from to experimentation them because if somebody would look at the patent claim and know how to do this then there is an undue experimentation but i thought why would that be enough because you have to take into account all the facts of this case exactly what the intrinsic record tells us about whether to do or not and i don't think you an expert can simply say oh well i despite or what their says you can absolutely do it by that i specifically mean concentration rating because even minor changes can have an effect on the properties of such a stable formulation this is particularly true for me you have to ask pay and that's the act here because predictability based on prior teaching for every possible variation i mean i agree it's really broadened their whole lot of possible combination but you know i'm not want to ordinary film you're one of ordinary filmy are can focus in on the combination that makes sense for example maybe that's exactly what's happened here they're trying to cover the better for our luck everybody else if you start this argument today these are incredibly broad claims they block competition they block other generics from coming out that they want to do obviously is being to market mix the i've used to get it to remain stable of course you're right that there's got to be some limitation on what stable means it can't be in two seconds that makes absolutely no sense now here i must tell you that what i think the different for church did and i think it was