so as we did before since we have our seventh grade civics class here and they don't know anything about the case if you could transfer them in just to explain it very briefly just tell them what their what you t a storefront in a strip mall for a part time employee same job duties same set up by god a computer provided by the corporation and a telephone line and i answering cory's from an office would there be any doubt that it was an other office for purposes of venue under that fact pattern here alright i don't think so so what difference does it make that he performs the same functions out and he was a part time employee and he was hired specifically to deal with these three clients your customers who are one of them in cook county so the company could have said oh by the way where are you going to do this stuff and he could've said in my r v at my house i'm going to run a storefront the company didn't put any limit and where he was supposed to do it they didn't say you have to you have to do it a storefront only want to put a big sign up on it we want you to have a dedicated x they paid him to figure out where he was going to do it and they must have known where he was going to do it because they weren't as you pointed out paying for a storefront in a accoutrements of what we would consider a traditional business environment but he was clearly only working on their behalf from an office in his house and he was clearly dealing with their and only their clients from an office in their house and he was clearly talking to their corporate people from his office in his house so from there it seems to me we can expect that the corporation knew is where he's conducting business and they approved of it so if they approved of it and even if they like it they approved of it and then it seems to me does make it an extension of the corporate  satirist or he was he had lived there for a long time he had worked for the company for ever for fifty years they specifically recruited someone who lived in the area he had been a live in cook county but lived in but they were specifically looking for someone and they probably expected that he was going to figure out where he's going to do this work and if he'd come to them with the bill and said i want to run an office i don't even know this there's no way for us to it's a good plan let's do it that way instead they got sort of a deal because he was working from his house they didn't have to pay rent they didn't have to pay for a sign that if pay for the electricity but they were paying him a salary from which he presumably paid part of those expenses they approve that arrangement and to meet that that that approval they certainly they knew they were paying rent on a storefront so they must have known he was in this work someplace else and they approved that once they approved it and they said yes that's ok with us then it seems to me that that's an office that they're responsible for you know your most respectfully disagree with that you know having lived at the address say which is not to say that if you moved to do page let's you mary lee would not have an office and to page it kind of is a cart before the horse we're talking about the activities of the definition should we need to find a definition for office it's not an ambiguous word we need to find out how do we define the word but we look at the dictionary that's ok i think that's acceptable in that ok so what would you know  i happen to have a dictionary definition here a place where business is conducted or service is performed there's enough so here we have a place where business is conducted that's the and that's and that's where you disagree and that's  nature i continuing on he called himself i was the local problem solver i was available in chicago i know they hired me because they need someone in chicago well as we discussed eight purposeful selection of an office is not necessarily require the way that new year says that a traditional office in the traditional semblances of an office and a clerical activities are not necessarily required we have all that here having several months after a few brief edition returning to it that provides great clarity and as i returned in prepared my remarks here for you today i noticed that there seem to be a conflation within divan you statue between the concept of doing business for purpose of residency and another office and it seems that the definitions that were employed by defendant appellant seem to suggest one must be doing business or you can't have an office unless business is done or business is done but foreign office clearly the legislature didn't agree with that because there's a separate other office we're doing business of another office and the second portion i think is the most important what's a fixed place of business it's also a place that may be a strictly private corporation and may be but need need not be a traditional office  actually the only place he can check his g m l u mail so if he wants the email if you want to correspond with what is a new computer i think it eventually he did buy himself a computer but i would take that position even if you bought his own computer and supplied his own computer certainly a part time fifty than what we hear the words i mean there are differences if we're going to follow alert and look at the criteria that they use there to say well this is really an off the other off shore and what criteria should we be looking at here well i w assigning even without any outward manifestation and as long as somebody is in the venue doing the employer's business that's off i would say so did he get any this location and because it's in the deposition it's in the record i'd like to discuss it i will point out that defense counsel never asked mr polk a single question at his deposition instead waited after and testimony we can rely for the testimony we can rely on of the testimony says that he is face to face meetings with cook county and i do know they hired me because they needed somebody in chicago training to his office they supplied him with a computer at the time than the phone for convenience but he says he doesn't pretty good salary for being a part time employee correct it is in the record that they knew where he was working from yesterday as they gave him the at the beginning of the evening but now this is especially for young people back in two thousand and eleven when everybody didn't have a computer in their i still go back to the approval they they knew what he was doing and they never said hey don't do it that way for you and i was just there benefiting from it of course you don't need to you can lose money and still be in business but presumably we can from the record we can tell that there are there there's a benefit to him being  cook county at his office and they are making money yes right this wrong and so i think the last portion that i would like to address would just be the slippery slope argument contained some of this will be real reiterative so i'll keep it short but this is not the story a traveling salesman or the modern decline or the decline of the office for these modern times this is a purposely selected location this is a location where there is a traditional someone says an open office that will go beyond what's required problem i i do want to counsel mention first there was some play sion tween the two aspects of the venues dash of doing business in the home office and i think that all of those are two separate issues i think they are both last i do i do want to point out and here i was thinking about your question earlier and i've been thinking about for a few days now and it's the implications of affirming the circuit court's ruling on the home doing your employer's business will be deemed your office he was talking about a particular location where mr baldwin typically did whatever it was he did on behalf of his employer oh absolutely maybe that makes perfect sense because our society has changed office no longer means a single place opposite means doing work for something and if even though that the case everybody is relying on says fix they have to time things are fixed today as we know these are just things in the future it seems more and more as you say with your firm and the the words themselves do not bank thank you very much i thank you for your arguments this morning in your breed's we will take the case sundry price