people on vacations recover welcome back thank you good evening and welcome to the board it's like this meeting for tuesday november thirtieth the agenda we will have citizens input at seven o'clock i'm just going to give a brief in the introduction and turn it over to debbie on the recommendation because some nice things need to be said and they can say nice things about themselves on the say the nice things about them and they're going to say i sings about other people result and i don't want to steal the thunder again so obvious going to say the result of something wonderful that they're going to talk about but i just want to be sure that the borders to the commission debbie and her staff donna and the planning board done a really great piece of rosenker did a wonderful piece of work and produce a tremendous value for the town so having said that all and the nature of the emergency right yes we need is you know if we don't get this taken care of tonight and we wait two weeks for the next board meeting they may not be time to get a whole bunch of complicated paperwork done prior to december thirty first which is the deadline for all this to happen ok thank you yes thank you and thank you for understanding that we did need to get this done saving is an extenuating time sensitive issue us and under those circumstances is why we're here tonight and we know that this is typically not how we're supposed to appear before you what has happened is through the hard work of the planning board and attached we did agree that we would use that for the betterment of the casket of a great river recreation area or properties and in looking at area probably one of the things that we don't have is a playground that would not only benefit the children in the feelings that utilize that properties but would also benefit the neighborhood as a whole though it there's not a great deal of a neighborhood give our two pieces that are becoming a neighborhood so we as a board had decided that we would put in a playground sixteen thousand dollars does not buy a whole lot of playgrounds if you know what a playground by it's at the same time across the desk of parts will recreation was in time which is a very well thought out great cooperation of you know not only playground equipment but has a great reputation in town great reputation across the board was offering matching grants so we applied for that grant and were lucky enough to become a reception and have it so we now have thirty two thousand dollars at every disposal  so putting in for that grant in getting it we will now be getting a twenty five thousand dollar playground at no cost to the community and it's not a thirty two thousand dollars playground because the twenty five thousand dollars is the materials that the remainder comes with the installation and the shipping and the time sensitive issue that mr pinkos was speaking of was that the grant has its limits and we have to take paul association and actually spoke to someone that knows him a mr paul vocal ms could be trouble who said i think we have a new we have a new town manager was asking me to drop my eyes and cross my t's and he said that wouldn't good for you for making me do my homework so we don't even have to put it all to bed which is even you know more time saving i can't say enough about the the hard work and the collaborative effort that exists about the dedication of a creation to look outside the box and to find revenue streams and develop relationships and collaboration is not only with other boards but you know other entities like game time to find the money it's in the world in provides recreation at no additional cost to the town i couldn't be prouder of the board i couldn't be prouder of the department and the know we wouldn't it wouldn't necessarily be under this time crunch but i wasn't always aware of the sixteen thousand that was coming down our way because once it's had matching grants it was like we don't really have it but once i put the sixteen together with the matching granted all came together right in the mom's club has donated two thousand dollars towards a flippant i asked that i think if it went to both which is typically where they like to go they said they didn't so we have an opportunity to expand on this because this is the type of equipment that you second time around this is a second playground thanks guys have done i know you guys work hard i'm very familiar with game time i don't know if you've shopped the other playground manufacturers but they do have they been around for a while the detail is cool i didn't realise that until they told me to and the top of the line they do focus a lot on handicapped accessibility as well as they all do but they were the leaders in this and it's going to be making history it's going to last for a long time and you guys should be proud of that you know you know bringing a top top notch product into the common i've been contacted by several residents about traffic concerns in the downtown area and there's been a request for additional signage about speed unfortunately when we were doing the our version of the big dig several of the speed signs approaching the comet disappeared over time because the whole downtown area supposed to be a twenty mile per hour zone and it's been suggested and i work with  mr swanson to get additional signage put up to alert horace as well as trying to target the downtown area in terms of speeders and other motor vehicle violations over the next month but i not the last citizen that was not talking to me about it i did cite would bring it to the board's attention because he felt very concerned about it especially with the pedestrians i do think the different  it i'm going to be speaking to morrow i was meeting with the one of the citizens late this afternoon i'll be talking with them to see if we could get some of those signs replaced on the downtown area is it mostly the people coming along one forty coming to the condo or is it the other actually a mechanic street also is problematic i think they perceive the stop sign at that intersection is situational  optional and stead of coming to a complete stop because of the ongoing traffic but i think some additional signs approaching the common further out with the reduced speed might help slow them down at least to make better judgement a stand up here because the light show the map i just want to update the board and the town on there are open space plans we've got a map that's being passed around and it is available it's using an which expired in the early ninety's i believe and the commission has been trying to get it done and from what i can gather since around two thousand and four anyway but it's picked up speed rapidly and i did have a two thousand dollars grant that i received for dedicated time to work on it so i've done a lot of research about the parcels and the whole different data layers and and and that kind of thing and i know we have managed i have managed to score a and in turn from america and she has a recent degree in planning and she's helping with this as a matter of fact we're going to have a meeting our next meeting is going to be this friday  three and it's up to line up to nine in the real world so that's been a little bit of a challenge but we're we're going along pretty rapidly and i'm hoping to get it all buttoned up  by the end of december so that we can put the graphs out for all to you and other citizens and departments and committees to review give your comments and then we will go on from there also  kevin's new internal tim is looking over our word document with the information that a lot of people have put together a lot of what i have done is simply pull everything together although i have done a lot of other things and he actually  basis for these plans is is so that the town can acquire grants it's a working document but it's the town can acquire it can get grants for open space and refutation but also it goes into other grant applications as well you get poop on what we need to show our and this is where we are that so far pretty much judy johnson on the commission and i have she did a lot an awful lot of work on the  using the town's information and then i was pecking away at as to myself and she actually took some of the information out to her little laptop that she has with a with a higher level of arc view and has so far gotten put this together i think that maybe the next iteration or maybe the same one i can't remember so as you can see there are a couple that still have question marks on this plan i believe we resolved those and i think the one that i gave  parcels i should know yes this was this done for us and today as a matter of fact i managed to get inspired enough to to squeeze some time to update our our website we have a link on our website to the open space immigration plan and i just gave a little brief blurb about it and then i put up about six of our maps which which are pretty good maps for information if nothing else they're not the final version it's still a work in progress but my plan is once we have finished sections i will put them on the website so that people can review them and like i said when i get this all together i'll be sending out letters to different departments and such just a one page thing piece of paper for them to look on line and then give their input hopefully in writing because then that will go with the plan when we actually do give it to the state so we're getting there we're getting close that's good news if you have i think it's anybody who is interested because this is a working document it is based on what town residents want for their town and we've done a survey back in two thousand and nine they held a hell of a meeting with a presentation back into the us and that as well and now we're just doing a last minute stuff with what i'm calling the open space committee but it really is open to anybody who's interested we welcome anybody who'd like to come to be there and it's going to be this friday at twelve thirty right there you said a couple i actually went to the conservation commission last night when they were presenting this and it's the open space plan has been kind of inching along over the last probably two years and you know what you guys have accomplished recently with you know the interne coming on free of charge if she's doing it with no charge to the town in really putting this together you know the software you use and it's out of date and it's it's kind of band aids to get to get it to this point but if you understand it you know it the big deal at the end you get something called an open space plan but it's much more than that i tried to get it grant about a year and a half ago we did a great package in the first question was does a town have an open space plan approved and we said no and we basically threw it out that this is going to open the door to a lot of opportunities for the with the terms of use in g i s if i can just explain it so i wanted to bring this up later because we were talking about goals and objectives later g i s is it's stands for geographic information system so from a conservation perspective you're going to see open space woods wetlands slopes soils all that stuff but from a town's perspective with the same software and the same tools you're going to see residen going to be able to come in and see his property is going to see an aerial he's going to see taxes set back zoning overlay districts the police and fire use it the water and sewer can use it for the roads and infrastructure those school system certainly can use it to to do their bus routes and most towns have it foxboro is very far behind in that respect with that respect if you go to most of the towns if you go on to there sasser you can relatively quickly pull up that information here you pull out the books you pull out the ruler and you know it takes probably you know one to two minutes using g i s for one to two hours you know with bill because bear is timing mark resnick time so  you know if we're talking on goals and objectives later to pull things together i know you're looking at a grant you know for four hundred dollars you get three or four thousand dollars worth of training and services so you know your department is looking at it but i think if we look broader for the other departments i think it's going to push us into the next you know if we're looking at selling property or purchasing property and accepting it how it all fits together this is a fantastic tool and you guys are going to open up a big door for us great in grangeville a drive at your last meeting you had discussions about the possibility of trying to get fines based on the super bowl games played at gillette stadium the cropped shit has in effect donated to the state's athletics to use of their facilities and i think it would be a disgrace if we as a town try to make money and somebody is charitable contribution so i sincerely hope that you won't try to negotiate anything with the krauts i think they're doing a fine thing don't get me wrong there are plenty of places that i've always disagreed with  the crafts and push for medication but this is a case i think we should just forget it and be a good  manager and i apologize in advance is it wrong but ok one day this all interested persons are invited to attend the hearing board of selectmen foxborough mass james develops clerk and this was published one time on november twelfth two thousand so we want to step it up a little bit down there hasn't let me read again ok ok i just want to ask one question kevin do you know how many alcohol licenses we have left for the town and yes we you so do you want to talk about yes good evening and thank you for the opportunity to come before you my name is  and thank you for your consideration and i am happy to i say your question assurances and i think the tenants in the plaza would appreciate the opportunity to have some assurances from the new organization coming in that the current longtime tenants will be taken care of because i don't think we've heard that yet and that's that's a concern and i and i and i would suggest that you folks might starts coming to the planning board meetings that you attend and you know state you i don't but the other ten is but then it's a ten and it will there and so he could be pushed right on to one forty if there's not yet and that's that was a bring this up to challenge you i just want to because i think i would actually i don't want to invest in something and then a approve the application for rico alcoholic beverage license as presented second if i could suggest that you add to that subject to the submitted flo and with table service only you have the polling that's my motion and just so the applicant understands that because this is a common misunderstanding of the license holders if the floor plan changes that requires ok and next we have the special town meeting where we find ourselves unfortunately the same place are in last week which is the primary reason for the pressure town  so if you didn't get a chance to read it i certainly don't blame you because that deal's not done yet and that's the primary reason for calling a special you know i can't advise you whether you should even bother to take the time to go through the ward because if you know you might say article one article right shouldn't be on the special but should be on the annual and you might end up not even having a special anything that's really controversial is going to draw a lot of people that is going to change my jackley you know the only thing i'm concerned about is there's eighteen of them not knowing what's going to be on the regular town here is eighteen you could take a take care of but without anything in here that's biting for people to come i don't know if we're going to get a quorum and i've got two more articles that are on there because this is the days go by other things come up  and i didn't give you those two yet one is for to fund a downtown study because that's come up repeatedly and looks like if we're going to do it as something we ought to get to sooner rather than later so if we have a special time maybe we ought to get get to it get it fun get it done and you know for the life of me i can't think what the heck the other one was but it was something else came up but again none of this bears necessarily the boys consideration until you know that in fact there's going to be a special town meeting and if we don't if we don't consummate that deal i would say sometime in next five or six weeks because you've got a six or seven week lead time you're into the end of february but the time you get into march it's really a question whether we we if there's a possibility that we have a court that you know yeah and look at that you know for this stuff now it's hard to look people the flip side of this to consider though is most of those articles probably you probably would be inclined to approve to put on a warrant yes and if we don't do a special you're going to have a juggling this annual so it doesn't happen like you and i know the advisory committee who is concerned about that and their friends are probably the first ones to say that yeah we as a perk i met with them a couple weeks affects your music and i got we sent them the warrant because they just as a cautionary that we said look this is about what it is now we're not saying this is the final word by any means but this is what we've got so far so that they want their liaison's to begin you know prepping talking to department heads that are proposed i can do that at least get a little bit of a head start so that's where we are we have a couple of weeks still to see what else comes along and then we can make it there's no clothes you haven't voted a closing date for the warrant yet the way the law or operates warrants are always open so anytime anybody submit something it automatically goes on the next warrant if it's a petition hundred signatures for a special ten for an annual yes so this so if somebody says mr citizen petition to take one hundred signatures you must put that on everything else is submitted which right now there's no citizen petition on everything else is your business you're the only you you only want so you cannot go any article if you don't want to on for any reason whatsoever that you decide to take it  i'd be too cheap i'd rather have a long night in may i like to have the money now yeah that's how i yeah but there's nothing to say you can't bring it to the i calm again and just say they want to start getting work or they can go out and solicit from the different articles on there is probably told you some of those are pretty controversial and so it's going to be and the chief and i have talked about him you may decide you're not going to put one or two of those on because the chances are pretty good that they could result in some litigation if town meeting approved and we kind of got to the side do we want to be the ones to test this new ground or not that's that's a that's a definitional policy call that you folks make when you're ready not you're ready to do it the chief will give you the pros and cons and then you can decide what to do so but other than those i don't see anything on that warrant that's not going to reappear when you go to see it ok so we will go on to action i here on sunday night finish work on a monday morning i can open it set myself a spreadsheet that i did it on i couldn't open it so but we're getting on top of that file and i think that we could fix this is a time to hold through all the submissions from me get them into some water what i have to do with this now and i just gotta find some time to do it is take your list that you've posted and match this up to it  out so it's good information on but then somehow we get to take this list and call it down to what reasonably can be done you'll see down the bottom i added a whole bunch of stuff and i'm not done adding you know sort of some more things in the office to and i'm so bearing in mind at the time we finish this we only have six months left in the am so i've just got to get on with that i think the board what would be helpful to me is if the board would take the list that you've already done and just have a little discussion about that would he do it and i don't couple weeks want to do it to kind of flesh out a little bit about what you want to see done on some of those things that you've listed because some of them are pretty obvious others are a little i don't quite get it what it is you want done and it would be helpful with the border to do that you've already done all that work so if you didn't do anything more than give me that import on the list you already did we have a pretty good work plan for the year and then if we selectively cull through this an added five or six or seven or eight or nine or ten more that would be pretty extensive bit of work for six months for that that's a ball we've got left and of course the biggest thing going on right now is the budget that's that's going to start consuming  basically full time for about two months will be doing anything but that so that's kind of where we are i know the range of guns some great work organizing the board hate to do this oh he smile mean you had mentioned to me some time ago that you do occasional workshops yet this is just such a brutal time of year to try to even think about that and i'm not saying necessarily that's what we need to do but i think maybe we need some time devoted to just the goals and objectives and whether that's a workshop or what do we just take a couple i was at your next meeting and say we're not going to do anything for right now which there isn't anything scheduled for next week ok because well we don't have anything next week we don't have a meeting next week and i'm so i thought i was that last week in this week uses every other week yeah next we have a request for the ninety nine to open at eleven o'clock for the remaining i don't think we can do eleven yeah can we get it can beginning and for some reason that that was a problem don't know if that was really true or a red herring if you could we do you know get my whether or not we could do to do that allowed the eleven o'clock from the beginning just i had an issue with one just because of management issues not because of policy right well you know i would too if there was a specific problem but just his general role if they're a good citizen i'm ok with the eleven o'clock and then she wasn't about that in and yeah i was at the ninety nine here two months ago asking for this really operation i think what they did is they came in for two thousand and ten and now they're asking for two thousand and ten and eleven i tell you what i think you're probably right but i'd be willing to make the vote again for twenty ten just in case you're wrong because only you know a few sundays left and it's going to do no harm if we approve it again there isn't i mean yeah if you duplicate what you already did no big deal so i'll  we approve the request but only for the year twenty three and for the remainder of the year two thousand and ten and again subject to food service any other conditions i should add now because all the other conditions are already in place with respect to the  i told you exactly the opposite like shit it's a logic ok and sandra very nicely gave me the dope slap the morning after so i got it straight now what they do every years they come in as soon as it looks sort of kind to like the patriots will make the playoffs yet they they ask you at that point for approval for the playoff dates for the one day license or we can put the dates in until we find out what the schedule is going to you don't really i mean we can make them go through a change of hours requests and that's just that's just causing businesses extra money narcan you know they're coming in for their annual renewal in two weeks that's the one with a command right this time of year ask you for the playoff dates and one day beer and wine with the exact dates to be filled in once we get the n f l schedule and of course we know how deep the patriots go playoffs things on the licensing is just a list of your license fees which isn't a policy so what i would say what i'm going to do is i'm going to go through this and some of these by the way are indies policies which i suspect that not all that many actual policies of the board that need to come back to you to be reviewed what to do so i'm just going to go through i'm going to take a couple hours it's really not a huge on a wrist thing probably one bruins thing and you just go through me all night and in create a folder and that's what you'll need to look at me me so i don't think it's going to be quite as bad as we thought you know one thing you did ask me to pull out was your town council policy that turns out you got one but it's it is not really a board policy all it is is a statement that andy sent out which sad to the departments if you want to tell the council services you've got to submit it in writing to the two you are selecting for approval and that's that's you know what you were looking for was a policy  yeah yeah so i will draft something for you there's three policies you vouch for and i'll go through my files of policies i've got so let me policy  applications because right now we have a little bit of an embarrassing thing i had we brought one to the board only to find out it couldn't be acted on by the board because it was in a zone that required a site plan and a special permit so we need to have a review process i just don't know the time i had so i should be able to get those three policies back to you in some sort of drug form what i'll do is get all these get the drought forms give mall to it and then depending upon the volume you guys can decide whether you want to try to you know you'll have a what's the say you'll have a policy on how to process a class two license application and it'll say send it to the fire department for the fire department can inspect the premises and make sure all the fire suppression apparatus is in place to send it to the building inspector to be sure that it's appropriately zone to allow class to which is the problem we get into last week right send it to the police because there's a lot of so that's the kind of stuff that you need a policy once that's done and you approve of that is the bible we get somebody comes in here with an application it will not get on your agenda until it is complied with mr great and so this was now that i've got the laptop is the inconvenience is up until now the only place i could write those is at home or here and once i started it at home i couldn't work on it here so i saw it and it takes hours to do and typically i do it on sunday because i just did never get done in here it's just that takes too much time and concentration and we know what your preference with this i mean you can hand it out but if we don't read it at the meeting it goes in the back of the people at home don't get the benefit of it you want to summarize it you know every week you want to summarize it and go through it quickly really have to you guys whatever you'd like me to do i don't want it to be a burden to you and take up a ton of time on your agenda i do give it to know i got his email address today so he gets it and that's good it goes at the current time it goes to board of selectmen advisory committee all department heads frank  but i can put this out there and people want to i think people would really like yeah i think that's going to come i'll do that sure and if there's anybody else jim gave me a suggestion for somebody to add and i did does anybody else an of the a manual meeting in january and luncheon on saturday june twenty second this is when they elect the officers for my own there's a lunch meeting you cannot get in unless i send your name in now you go on always go yeah yeah i read in your report this is the best meal of the entire we can ever get it doesn't cost the town a dime for free i think blue cross blue shield case which is all the more reason to go is it a buffet by any chance it's a great meal i know my way around those actually i think i'd like to go if you want to put me ok anyone else it's not because the right  think we're going to wrap this up and i want to thank everybody for listening might have to steal kaiser steve delaney was going to be here with me tonight but he got a call to throw shoes because his team didn't have enough players and they needed him and that's what happened so i want to thank you this is the foxboro for the year two thousand and ten were across all the town garage that you as