you think it's implicit that the arbitrator took into account the lack of evidence o unusual case as far as the violation of state shoots and so forth to band conduct let's say that it was particularly directed it you know one particular person expos the possibility or probability that she and her children would be detrimental effected by it termination this court in all of the courts considering these kind of issues indicate that the to say ok i have somebody who has a gauge in the horrible horrible conduct issue in this case i should get his job because he says well now again that bad that back should be considered as a as a vehicle for letting somebody get into work is in our mind a concept of discord should reject what about the fact that right to privacy including protection against electronic communications that's certainly a strong policy there are several states huge prohibiting i want tronic surveillance eavesdropping in a way exactly the kind of things that you're gauged it in of course there's case law protecting the right to privacy and we look at possible there but there's plenty of cases dealing with invasions of privacy of this nature the separate torture that was a separate invasion of privacy that's what i'm referring to as serial multiple times so the that the additional public policy is that we must have our police officers lives so those are those are the public policies if i can if you put this issue above imply fine if the conduct is truly outrageous then it becomes a question of to determine the public interest and whether the public interest requires terminations regardless of any findings made by the arbitrator all right the as i mentioned the notion of  said that we can't tolerate the public policy against domestic violence is so strong that we cannot allow somebody like that to carry the badge and probably set society's police officers in domestic violence is horrible but when we think about what happened in this case i'm here in time to time what does it matter that there was a prior event in the decatur case means there was a domestic violence that was reprimanded free strike another human being arbitrator ignore his is i do see is a here we are his role in reviewing the facts in and entering his decision in the absence of the the collective bargaining agreement there was stuff there knowledge of this horrible stuff in the text message really that is on page two of our brief where as you will there's a court will recall when mr wagner realized that everything was hitting the fan he was he was watching all these text messages trying to avoid the consequences of his misconduct say eavesdropping committed i know i committed this offense i'm going to fight it so we've got undisputed facts of no weight with you keeping this person in the police department in light of all undisputed and business conduct violates public policy and if he is keeping the officer indicators violence public policy different than any other walk of life what ramifications would a terminations here have on domestic relations in i mean in terms of divorce proceedings for other police officers where you know i am the occasion to read a lot of transcripts of divorce cases where eavesdropping is used by on cell phones on answering machines on all kinds of somewhat invasions of privacy so what are we seeing to police officers who go through a divorce that we really don't hold anything anybody else to appreciate that question because the history is officer murphy you know where you have superior knowledge of eavesdropping so we're we would hold them to a different to criminal acts that were to be or had been committed by him that would also result in his government a ship was a situation that he case actually is going to turn the stuff back on after the divorce please recall that when divorce was pending he install stuff i have to protect myself  the house at times when they were talking about were going to be doing something or when she was going to have another friend come over but thing but the overarching point is they have the to respond to the divorce and argument the divorce was did there's a lot of strange things it is a lot of strings of things about this case but the ultimate the ultimate issue from our perspective given all the case of a traitor violating keeping