individual contracts including the superintendent and strategies regarding potential litigation the committee will not return to open session that being said we will start with visitors we have any visitors that we  i think every remember back as i was reading this today i think this was back when you and our patrick preside over the only two left in the room and we were going through our last couple of items so i'm using this as an excuse for more times publicly thank you reporter the patch for continued good coverage that the and there were several members that had to leave early from the meanest of steve motion to adjourn the meeting that second day and then there were three zero so at the very bottom it said the meeting was adjourned at nine twelve so steve made a motion to adjourn the meeting that second day and then it was three zero because  because those of us in education we can take some of the things that we do that wouldn't seem routine to outsiders but it seems routine to us because we're so used to it and this came up actually in a discussion i was having a student earlier close to our budget presentation back in december and we started talking about what adaptive physical education is and got into a really great discussion and i realized it's much more in much more goes on in the syria than the public would know so i thought what a great teacher and learning highlight this will help educate or welcome i'm really excited to have this opportunity to because i think this is a component of wellness education that's really a significant part of students who are differently abled their ability to  be part inclusive of wellness and how this allows them the opportunity to be successful in wellness and how it's done and how we modify different things for them to have the success so children get the same they get a double opportunity really in a way because they do attend regular wellness all students it's inclusive and then they get the opportunity if they receive adapted physical services to also receive that as a direct service and it's actually using as a pull out and it's in a smaller group setting and it focuses on in the lower grades it's very developmental like you normally do in wellness curriculum it's done in small increments smaller groups greater breakdown of the skills and it gives him an opportunity to practice coordinate with other wellness teachers what do you in it what is your curriculum in working on right now who can do a lot of preaching and we find this has been really beneficial for the students to all ready to be prepared for what they're going to be doing a regular wellness one component of adaptive that i really focus on for some students is it's called partial british the patient so some children are not ready for a full forty minute class a wellness so they get their allotment and adaptive physic and we watch how they could slowly and successfully integrate into wellness such as being able to sit and listen to directions that's a big component of being able to be part of a class and be successful in might be the first ten minutes for a while and then we have them leave when they're successful and then we build upon that amount of time in the class for them to build up in the success so it's really a subdiscipline of physical education and all the things that we work on in physics wellness are all the same aspects that we focus on and adaptive fiz that the referral process process is very multifaceted it's not just one set routine a one set way i would do it for on assessment quite often it can be a discussion someone might say well could you come and just watch so and so today in class because i'm not sure first grade in kindergarten all skills for most children it's all over the place so i usually put children like that on my radar unless we've had specific requests  or assess them i just want to give credit to lisa mcanally who's a physical therapist she and i work really close and this is how we migrate in from whence a child is able to exit p t she and i communicate very close with each other and decide whether they can be exited from p t and don't need to adapt if is that and then if they do we look it over we talk to the teachers we talk to the family and then we generate a referral for an assessment if need be and wait for approval from the family and signature and proceed from there so one of the process is that parent formation must definitely occur before we do an assessment screening can we now require a preliminary step to determine if a full of valuation is necessary and some of the assessment tools i use are discussions with the teacher discussion with the don't discussion with the p t speech all the other services that a child may have or a classroom teacher they may say you know they can't cross the midline they can't sit in their chair they don't seem to be able to focus and a lot of times those are very good cues on a child's ability to be able to do things physically so that's sometimes can be a precursor for where i precede observations in regular physical education classes are available and informal tests suggest checklists i have a virginia checklist i use which is really nice it covers all the domains cognitive emotional social  skills development tools skills and things like that my skill emphasis really is developmentally driven which is all our curriculum is so most children who might be differently able it may take them to eight weeks ten weeks twelve weeks to develop and learn a skill that a typical child may be able to learn in two weeks so the progress can occur is just quite often at a slower pace and you have to make more modifications either in the setting they're in the type of a quit me you use your approach do you do centers do you do one on one how do you present them with the skill so they can progress to the next level and this is accomplished too i think to my long term goal for my students and i'm really glad that adds here because this gives it a nice chance to segue in my long term goal for my students in a p s to develop good lifetime healthy activities skills that they can enjoy and participate in with their families in peers within the community and this is accomplished by exposing them to accessible community resources that they can utilize safely and in order to achieve this a fox where y has been a community resource for eleven years now and this is been a great opportunity and this is an offer the students an opportunity to access the community and this is a really into cool part of a child's transition once they get get to the age twenty two and they move on being able to access your community know your resources are being able to do it safely and with your peers and with your family is a big porton porton part of their transition when they move on from the school years so one of the things that we really was nice for me when i first started the death to visit was i was able to connect with the y came calling and dan brown it with the two people that were my resources and they have sat down with me and i have to say they just opened their arms and said what do you want to do and they totally embrace the idea of very very supportive and it's come a long way the why has just been a great opportunity for these students to as they progress through elementary school up to middle school elementary like it's very developmental skill driven and as they get older i try to shape them more for a healthy lifestyle learning to do more things that are going to keep them healthy and find out what they like to do and really focus the curriculum around that for deaf to visit as they move into high school that's the only access the wide two seats are swimming friday we do studio cardio spin bikes  track and the other nice thing that thanks to the y is having the fitness center here all the students have access to the use that they use it five days a week they are able to go in and use it on their head they have wrecked time for about thirty minutes every day besides have an access to the fitness center here so they really have a motto today of opportunities to be physically active which i think is really really important so what i also would like to say is all the assistants who work with me make what i do really work they're very supportive they're by my side they work with the kids they sweat with the kids they get in the pool with the kids they do put their bathing suits on a more of it in the morning and they jump in the water so i just want to make sure that they get credit where credit's due because they are sweating right alongside them too so they do a great job what i say i'd like to wrap this up with is to just show a quick video of last year's special olympics because i think from me this is what culminates everything we do an adaptive fit this is their day it's family it's community it's school a lot of the kids classrooms you know so for i love this program and we have many but the anything that you need like say role model visits or something that would inspire even more the  students and recognize their pride in their achievements as they go through this program i was trying to watch in the slideshow the age groups they have and they've they i'm sure they they fluctuate for you yeah yeah but you know if there's what's the concentration there and is there anything that you need from other than you know great organizations like the one that sort of thing i systems with i think their resources are really good we have the integration program is at the y which offers the students a lot of opportunities several of the students that i've had in the past from high school have moved on to participating in a variety of the programs that  nor would they have challengers and a lot of the student to go to and so i think it's far as foxborough i think we're a pretty good stone of integrating the students into a lot of variety of opportunities i think one of the things and the other thing i do i mean i run some other before and after school programs and it's it's inclusive we've had some students who participate in the box program this year we have it's who differently abled there are in our running club  so i think anytime we offer something like that it's open to everyone as long as we have the support we need and i think a reference to that question is sometimes for some students who might like to be involved in a four four school school program who might have special needs i think that is something maybe we want to visit and see how can we give you know what could we do to provide enough support for adequate support so those students could be more  part of before or after school programs i think of that list any question that maybe we could visit that would maybe be one just want to make the comment that not every wellness teacher can be an adaptive physical education teacher it does require specialized training so sue would not mention that herself so i want to mention that and i thank you for it because you are find that because i mean there's a lot of and a lot that goes into this whole assessment process so  very thoughtful and i'm just really impressed with the resources that they do provide for students and it's it is a great segue to the why which is why when you hear them out because there are like i said times where you things become so routine for us that you  say take it for granted but it become so routine that you don't stop and celebrate it so before we exit soon in interest why folks this past fall were a breakfast meeting at the y and we were in your meeting room with the box for a while and our students went by have something great going here which i know but it's those moments where you really appreciate that we couldn't have the quality but after without them so nice segue to our next gen i do i think i would agree with that mrs finale i'm at the y during the something that's really important to them and their families and i think it's really it's done some nice things for community and family and thank you thank you thank you the real lot of students in that video who were familiar i branch executive director a little bit new to me so we just met this year and we thought a b and i were talking we thought be a great idea because this is another hidden gem foxborough is all the partnerships that the why i think we hear about snippets of it but to really understand the whole picture of what goes on in our partnership can't think the most i'm just going to turn over to them because they have a presentation going to show you but our partnerships than where we continue to work on them so first phase and then we just celebrate our fifth anniversary of the expanded you know foxboro branch and the way we were walking to this community from day one with open arms and certainly the school committee and superintendents have all been very supportive of the work we're doing and we're just so excited it what we've been able to accomplish together and the partnership that we have with the foxboro public schools is one that we treasure we value and is that we're just talking said would be great to just spend a few minutes a really opportune for me just to say thank you i mean thanks for being so open to working together and the things we've been able to do i think the impact we've been able to have and kids and families in this community because of working together so we're going to walk through our and really take a quick look back and i will try to do this quickly i'm going to really try to get the tree tops here i gave a copy of power point some of the numbers and i get a little bit excited so i'm going to try to stay on that i have to stay on message here so i don't go off too much that's all going to take a look back in terms of things that have happened and then what we're doing working together today and then we'll take a quick look ahead at some of the opportunities that we believe that we have so just from all of the y m c a standpoint you know for us it's all about you know meeting emerging community needs and that's one of the things what some just talked about is one of the ways we've been able to do that together for us we talk about three areas that are our primary is the focus youth development healthy living and social responsibility in thread make that part of everything that we do at the y m c a and then as we look back you know that our healthy futures initiative was really the programming around it started you know back in two thousand and seven we first started in two thousand and five spirit was one of the first system communities that really embraced the safe routes to school and we started that in two thousand  there and you see the numbers up there over the past five years you know over twenty two hundred five students have been part of that program so the whole message behind a healthy future is to get kids making good choices around exercise nutrition early in life and hope hope that that becomes know lifelong skills that they'll continue the nutrition detectives program one that we're so excited about that it's all third graders and we've been doing it here in foxboro it since two thousand and ten this was where we piloted it and that was you know through our partnership with the schools we now are doing that in thirteen communities that we serve so it's you know getting kids to again really help their parents to make some of the good choices reading labels and now we've had you know more than seven hundred fifty kids from five to four have participated in this program the stop and shop many grant program is one that we're very proud of stop and shop has been a big proponent of our healthy futures initiative and it's given us funding for the start fifty year more things we do that's a little bit different as we take some of that funding and t and it's been a program that is really you know made a difference in a lot of communities you can see here over twelve thousand five hundred dollars has come to foxborough through ten different grants over the years including the innovative one that you know foxboro did with with  again continues to be replicated and we're having some some real positive impact through the program a couple of other quick ones you know here we are in five grow my school and it was soo reference that you're having the leadership and wellness center here and i'd like to obviously acknowledge  judy harrington who really helped to make that possible and this was a dream that you know working with the schools that we came up with two thousand and ten we started it staff you know five days a week you know here the whole idea is to try to connect and engage students again around that healthy lifestyle choice one of the other things that we've done since the first year and it's grown to thirteen students this year serving is in terms so they're getting some experience you know in the program in hopefully that's going to help them down the road as well but it's helping us thirty three hundred student visits a year is is what we're recording and that's only in the at the time that we're staffing the center so the center is obviously open for programming at other times for the school and you know including for the for the athletic teams and starting in two thousand and ten we did a leaders club program here at the high school and we've had done an average of twelve kids a year in this kind of values based program that focuses on community service and getting kids involved so another piece it's come out of proximity to the center example we also advice for high school right down the street and the middle school right next door so we've got a pretty well worn path from you know from our hearn to the y m c a and you'll see we average forty five kids a day that will come to the y m c a in and do things that the that the maryland rodman youth leadership center and then transition to other activities at the y m c a as well but it's become a very popular spot and very heavily used by by young people from the ahern middle school the darkness to light program we've been doing for several years now and i want to say publicly one of the first communities to step forward and really embrace this and partner with us was foxboro and you know for all that you've done in this very important area so it's about educating adults around child sexual abuse prevention and what we can do in all of the high school for all the fight for all of us all of the school staff have been trained in darkness to light and it's been the most exciting part is they've been trained by your own staff you had staff at the school trained they've been able provide training and then just recently all substitute teachers now are getting training which is the first we've ever heard of that happening anywhere so again foxboro was way ahead on this one and then one of the other things i just mentioned is the the fight for high school swim team one of things it was important for us we completed our expansion was to again as part of the partnership to make that amazing facility available to the schools as the home pool for the swim team and since two thousand and nine the warriors have been using the spear family aquatic center and it's been one of the wins for all of us so i don't know if we'd have a swim team i don't think so so so a couple of other quick things i'll just mention turnover patrick is our adventure to respect program which is a program it's evolved from our ropes course program this approach seventh graders from the herd school go through its are all team building problem solving and the other thing that we've added is you know respecting and understanding differences around the anti bullying focus that we're trying to provide for that family nights and we've been doing that since two thousand and ten for the i go to school bring families to the y free of charge and then as you know sue mentioned  really really proud of that program and with that and it turned over to patrick who joined us in the last year as our new executive director of our invincible branch and he'll tell you about some of things we're doing today great well thank you ed and thank you for having me as well tonight we are coming up on a year april i'm so as deb had mentioned i am a newer face but developing that relationship and i could not thank the community and everyone involved with that for making it a welcoming atmosphere we are doing a boatload of work current day and a lot does fall back on the history and continuation of it and you know one of the ones we're right here as well as ed mentioned in our harrington leadership and wellness center i was able to really take a look at it a couple weeks ago in action and in action is a great word for it because a soon as those bells hit the kids are heading right in there and i really have to give kudos to my team director dan de mars who has been a huge part of that this center and not only on the wellness sand but really the leadership piece of that and very proud to say how he works with his in turns throughout the year whether it's a project based around nutrition strength training overall programming within there but getting them to take pride in their center in their school in their community and it's just really a great you know ground floor opportunity for these kids to you know seat leadership in action or darkness to light also is that as ed has mentioned we're very proud that not only foxboro has really taken the lead with that but also that public school staff are trained in authorized trainers and most recently the substitute teachers have been trained within there and we look to continue to evolve that as well one of our newer programs is our school based enrichment program over at the school actually phillips our family director is having a lot of fun with this and i try to see who has more fun the kids or actually with this but we're actually offering two times a week healthy cooking classes for the kids and whether it's focusing on a certain vegetable one day or a specific recipe the kids are getting their hands messy but coming out with an end product that not only they're enjoying but the families at home and you know i i look at this program and you know really where something like this was around when i was going through school because it's not just about putting the recipes together making something in there but learning what goes into your food and again another offshoot of our nutrition detectives and other programs that we are running  we're very interested in expanding that to a couple of the other schools so you and i meeting in the next week or two so it's also a little later we look forward to that as well continuing with our integration initiative and you know for me for my first summer with fox for a while i was able to see include in programming through our summer camps now not only do we offer our traditional summer camp but we also offer a traditional in teen summer camp for those with special needs and as soon had mentioned before the partnership with the foxboro public schools and really being able to work with the extended school year program has been a benefit and a win win for all involved in there it's a bright spot of my day nick specially during the summer no matter how hard it is to get out there see the kids enjoying and really taken full advantage of our camp grounds of their safe routes to school we are continuing and probably continuing each year we do participate in international walk to school day this past year over four hundred  fifty students participated i was able to go on the taylor side this year and the neighborhoods i think are getting that much more competitive each year and see who can have the most parents out there school prep school pride and school spirit  costumes you know the whole nine yards when it comes to that are nutrition detectives program is continuing to continuing strong with one hundred eighty two third graders this year that are that will participate in there and this is our fourth year of the initiatives as we were mentioning before  and also you know our school gardens each elementary school this year was awarded a stop and shop many grant and they will be able to build their own school gardens so we're very happy with that excited and as the snow is melting we're really getting excited to get that going out there it's going to be really awesome ok we can wait and a little bit of a look ahead so with darkness to light as i mentioned we look forward into really continuing not only to be a partner but also really see the foxboro public schools as the innovator that they are i can mention where i've come from a few wise you know foxboro public schools as well as fox for a while with darkness to light it is recognized nationally and it's a great partnership to have a very powerful partnership to have in there a very unique look ahead and not too far around the corner thursday may eighth seven pm and i have to thank aphex pro public schools and the use of the auditorium for this but elizabeth smart will be coming for a very powerful presentations and you may see it's geared for individuals twelve years old and up based on content and tickets are on sale at all of our y m c a s as well and really just going through not only her story but the connection that she has with our aquatics to rector within foxboro it's just amazing not only how small of a world it is but just the relationships that you meet along the way so we're very happy to be able to bring this to the community of fo powerful economic standing i did put the the letter from you in there packet tonight so they have some more information about that and it's as well thank you kindly for that with the harrington leadership and wellness center we have put together a task force to recommend enhance the experience and deb and i we have met chan i thank you on that and we're getting together as a team with the y m c a first and then to get together with foxboro staff as well and really take it to the next level and you know i think it's a great relationship that we have right now but just in true why fashion we're always looking to improve the experience and make it the best for the students and the staff involved with workplace wellness we're always looking to explore opportunities for the staff and that includes our evidence base chronic disease programs we're very proud that we will be taking on and we've started our one y m c a diabetes prevention programming and as well as other chronic disease programming in there so we're very excited to continue working with the staff in regards to our offerings there with family focus programming as we mentioned before whether it be family nights or appreciation days that are getting the students over to our school both for the families the staff the students we're looking always continue exploring that as well as doing more we have a beautiful facility and once the grounds do thorough we have beautiful grounds as well so we want to continue working together with that partnership as well and then lastly continue to support school based wellness programs so throughout healthy futures initiatives and as we mentioned that's our nutrition detectives our school gardens but then there are safe at home safe this school day as well so we look forward to all of these i look forward to continuing with this and just offering you so just in closing in the have been answering questions you might have given the purpose of being here tonight is really say thank you you know for being such a you know proactive been innovative partner with the y m c a and it's a relationship that we value very much and a couple things that just want to say that just as new emerging needs come forward that you become aware of there's ways we can work together to help to address those that's what we're here for say literally right down the street we are literally right down the street and one of the other things that i would ask you you know all to do in your rules is you know you may be familiar with the y m c a and our doors are open to everyone regardless of whether they can pay or not reach all foods and families campaign is going to be kicking off later this month and  say to all of you if you become aware of an individual or family or families that could benefit from a y m c a experience it's confidential and i can assure you it will be there to support and to help them so you know please let us know how we can help individuals as well and then just you know continue to utilize as utilize also as a resource for anything that you know we may be able to work together on and then you know the doors always open come by visit and again you know many thanks for you know what we've been able to do together for so many years and i'm we are certainly appreciative of everything that you found out i'm so excited to see more of what's going to happen in the future so some great programs out there for families and i think this is a great opportunity for families that may not know know and that's what i actually said when you called several years ago about the darkness like i say i mean and i said no what's the idea but that truly is the way a relationship works and sometimes people around us will say oh no but but that's vets really d want to sign me up for anything may have so he signed me up for a class i never left for eighteen years in fact and within six months i was teaching classes there i was like part time you know very much and our children went to preschool there and when our son had have to kindergarten member that in those days and i trusted no one with my son because i was going back to work at the time and he was going to be in half daycare and half preschool and my neighbor and i signed our two kids up we're going to preschool for two years of the y for the daycare center and i think they were the only two from foxborough in every single day would have taken to garden they got a minibus and why to print a colored paper in that particular week's edition of the fives for porter and here were several there were teachers there were students and there were parents walking with i'm brawlers and chris you opened with that you quote treasure you're in value the partnership and i think that's aspirational for us too to think that we can have a partner is important as the why the treasures and values our partnership i think that's a great objective for us to start with all our partners so thank you for leading the way and i think we look at the impact that you know collectively together we're able to have you know that's really what it's all about for us and we realize a long time ago we're going to be much more effective if we're working together with others to make things happen for a few folks that we work as effectively with those foxborough public schools so it's been a been a lot of fun yeah i preach it you know again the walking nature of this community is withdrawing say from day one and we have some spin offs i mentioned to you that that was an amazing opportunity to stop and shop many grand slams he had been going to start that nutrition education project but now we have a second project going with her that is funded by them but it's a kick in kitchen the middle school nutrition project sixteen so just to be sure we have all of our t s crossed and it probably needs to be revoted that would be right recommendation and it's also opportunity to ask me more questions about how things are coming along certainly open to  question as there's been any updates or changes that we've been working on it a lot i had a really great conversation with a parent community member today that really don't want to research she's absolutely spot on with all of her information about that we get from the department of ed at the same information i got which is that has to be it has to be instructional in nature she had a really good point about agrees that in junior senior year the less time in wellness i'm going to put a spin on personal fitness which is great and our biggest remaining we have a few hurdles but there are smaller hurdles and the big leap hurdles i call it but we agree on the information and how things are coming along and going forward once we get past this first time we'll have all of the glitches worked out what i would say is the incoming freshman for example who know it's going to be a requirement or plan accordingly i'd say the biggest glitch that we've had and i've been discussing both during vacation weekend and this morning and i spoke to the parent and solidified it for me so it was really helpful conversation is that the students who may have gone with a slightly different course selection in one thousand tenth grade because they wanted to participate in jazz they were making those course elections bas information we're given at the time not knowing what was coming for when they were juniors so we have a long conversation today really regionally we're going to meet wednesday which was mid week to see because all of the students are meeting with guides this week course selection so they provided me with a lot of information and data mr gardner you know also going up to the high school had an opportunity to remove that so in general eighty percent of the kids in any given year are going to be able to schedule it without real interest and standard way and it it really won't be any it would just be easy to schedule but twenty percent of the kids require what we call hand scheduling but they would anyway because they're making different choices they're choosing courses a little bit more aggressively in terms of the academic future sometimes they're choosing to double up or music or even triple up a music  or other types of things so we have the high school divide us with information all the possible scenarios of the types of students and the choices they're making and how they fit the sin so like anything else it's a choice that students make so you have an example sometimes a student who wants to double up in the sciences and senior because they know they're going to major in something the sciences will choose to drop banned for example or they may choose to drop a language or so kids are always making choices so this isn't going to be any different from that is that they will get obviously input from their parents input from the guidance department and they will make their choices the one thing that we agree needed to be addressed and we did address that today is are those students who made different choices maybe they took a half half of what they were supposed to either in ninety tenth grade because they were going to make up the other half in junior or senior when they didn't have the requirement and those students now are in a little bit of a pickle because they now have to take the junior requirement and a little bit of make up so what we decided to day is that for those few students that are affected by that and there are really only a few that we they did take wellness in freshman year or software year and since the state doesn't really require a certain amount of hours for physical education has to be enough you know it can't just be one or two meetings but we're going to waive the other part of the make up requiring as long as they took physical education so if they for example if they took no physical education in ninety three deferring it for later then they would have to make up half of that which is a quibble to the it is doing if they took physics in one through tenth grade half of maybe the requirement which is what some kids did then they think that would be way for them because they they would still be considered having taken four years of physical education so i think that was the biggest honest concern that parents had as their students are trying to figure out how to schedule this i agree with that as my spackle agree with it so we decided to just talk today and make that decision and then at the end of the week they will be able to know exactly how many students are going to not fit in quite neatly and what else they're going to do so for example let's say there's a student who isn't a music student but who wants to really challenge ourselves a lot of a p courses and they really want there's study in the middle of the day to be able to take a break and work on some of their assignments than they could any student that student or any student with any kind of a profile could choose a piece alternative is what we're calling it which is a morning class or an afternoon class twice a week for half a year and they and they might prefer that there are students i mean he gave us a good example of her own son in a high school who is an athlete and he has to do strength and conditioning for his sport so rather than stay after first activities and then say after you do that he could take the bow of the p e requirement during the day and work on his strength and conditioning it which would save on the during the homework time so there are a lot of kids who are going to make choices that fit their desires and their goals best and we think that everybody can can fit in and have it manage i did bring with me i didn't i just printed it out today in case the committee is interested there was an article just two weeks ago through january thirty first two weeks ago in education week which is the education newspaper across the country about a study that links exercise with academic success and so this is where the department is coming from saying students need to move they need wellness and so i brought that for you but that's that's part of the reason why this isn't a frivolous requirement it really is based on you know actual enqueue studies so we don't disagree with that we're just trying to figure out how do we make this that seems to me a combination that can make good conscience mean always that he that's the right thing because we also have that flexibility as well right ok so the state is pretty firm in in that it has to be instructional in nature right it was and so that's the reason why you know some of our questions about we just participating in a sport count and we had thought because it felt counted as as an exception if you're in penalty and you don't even offer that the what you want to do individually to make yourself better at that support won't be able to count so the flexibility that we will have with the additional position to do a little before school after school and make lots of opportunities available to students that is going to meet their need even as an athlete so that that is pretty firm instructional in nature and simply participating in a sport whether it's in school outside of school will not be enough to count by itself because then you as you can imagine it would be a slippery slope because then what if we have a student says well i i skate in rhode island you know we don't know that so it's all you can't you can't count everything so i think we we're close to striking a good balance for most students and i think we will work out the smaller kinks that we're encountering and by the end of this week the gods about will know exactly who still needs you know some he and dot scheduling or maybe kids will take a little bit more time to decide what they want to do when the other thing to instruction wellness so again we're hiring and and whenever an educator who is trained in this so which is different than let's say you know maybe you are participating in something in a club team or you're right or even a certified teacher right they specifically say to me right i say it's important for us as a district to make sure that we're meeting that requirement ok well i'm really i'm glad you brought this forward because i know there had been you know when anything new is going to agree as a lot of questions anything new and i mean i think this is a great process that we're that we're going through in terms of people feeling like they can come forward and the taken discussion about it in trying to kind of put the needs of the valar students i feel more comfortable as we go along and start answering many of these questions and some of them are individual and some of them are more philosophical ok so can i stuff yeah sure make comment so i want to distill down debbie a little bit of what you just said as your public because i think you just said a lot of things a lot and i want to make sure that the public understands and the and my understanding is still going to be roughly two hours a week on average a couple days a week and up all hours so we're not talking about for example six thirty am monday through friday you know and that's a choice that we all are making and you all are leading  complies with the state man for four years of p e but doesn't require to be every day or all year or even a semester of maybe a couple hours a week so i think that's the first thing that when i've gone back to parents after a meeting they say oh ok well that's a little different than i understood it and then the second thing you said that i think has had a good reaction from the community that i've spoken with is this isn't group dodgeball this is this is and it's not p c it's it's life time fitness or personal to personal fitness that will sustain you vet has the academic component of we're going to teach you a life skill whether it's weight lifting or speed walking or yoga or whatever it is stretching should reach right that they can be valued so when people have heard that they've also reacted real well so i think if we can continue to go back with  that kind of a curriculum i think that will mean a lot the one thing that i have not heard back just for you and for amy is that communication yet isn't getting out to the parents at least the ones i'm talking to and maybe you know that carrots i spoke to have gotten she did send send something out during vacation week and i think that the i think the challenge is this high school students and i know from my own experience it's it's the ninety percent of the course selection is is the student and that's which should be because they're transitioning to a college environment so until we get to the end of this week when students had an opportunity to sit in guidance and go over what their schedule is like for example you know that they said to you the few students who had taken the initiative to come in for those weapons before vacation and did up saying oh ok i get it i can fit it in there because they had impressions that it was going to interfere with an elective choice they really felt passionate about or an a p course they felt passion about it when they found out it wasn't going to then they were settled on the wrong thing so i think sending more information out at this point other than the one that she did i think the questions will be answered when students have that personal appointment and i know that that will be the case so that that's when all the scheduling glitches get even if this had never happened that's when all the questions about what do you take the next year and how it's going to fit get really answered and to this satisfaction so i would hesitate to send anything more out to parents because this is the students they have to understand where how this is all going to fit in so they can go home and say oh it didn't it wasn't what i thought they were i am able to fit it in or i could fit in during the day but i choose not to and what i'm not i'm not know what the right answers i'm just giving you a status update from the sample and it was can i have a question about this are these parents that have high school students right now so they've been through the process before of course  something you know what then sometimes it's called the guidance and that's the way it works for anything so i would personally i would hesitate to make this process any different from all the choices they always have to make every year for the scheduling because as you know it can get tricky to schedule never mind it is that it never happens it can get tricky to try to fit your puzzle pieces together right and that's true of every high school so i would hesitate to make this something different than what it is routinely it's just another challenge within the puzzle and i've mentioned that the parents look this is one more choice they have to make and the students have to make about more than one take but as katie said this is something new and these you know we do something new in the curriculum a thanks a little time staff are still working out precisely what will be offered and what time of day but maybe once they have those offerings you know that the parent there can be a communication to the parents of you know these will be the options for personal fitness choices that i don't know say the wellness center will be open in staff for weight training during you know periods x y and z and it doesn't hurt him to go into it they will have made a choice i read i want to remind the i want to remind people if they're watching at home i am confused the freshman and sophomore requirement have not changed they are going to take what they've always taken right the students were talking about are going to be juniors and seniors right when we really do count on them to be responsible and make their choices and and i i don't want to suddenly give any impression that the juniors and seniors are not capable of making this isn't on their own but this is the one part of their whole complicated schedule they need parental more pressure because i trust the students more than that and i think what's gone on before this certainly there's been some confusion and there's been some mixed messages and i would even say misinformation but i think it's because it is new there were rumors going around and there's a percent there were some perceptions and different ways it was explained did cost a future i totally agree with that but i do trust our students once they get the information have their appointment to understand all the picking what they think initially and then making a back and change it if they want with further thought it's no different than any in you will course selection process it just feels very different because this one aspect is new when it actually is that different and some of them did that rightly so because we offered that option and now that they know when they're going to junior and senior they going to have to take a wallace piece whichever one they  they'd they probably would have made different choices a year ago or two years ago had they known and had we known that things were going to change so for those students we don't want to change the rules and be unfair and say well let's just wait so if they took wellness even if it was a half of what everybody else took we're going to waive that for those students who are operating on a different rules as freshman sophomores over the last two years so it's not a property right it's oh well say it wasn't the full thing in yes we told you we have to make that up in junior but now they're going to be taking a junior class requirement we're going to call it close enough so up until today that's what they were told is that they have to do the junior requirement and make up whatever look at our meetings the one that the first meeting that diana and jenelle came and we really wasn't clear from that meeting in which class if we didn't talk about the class number right we really did she she there really was no we talked about the good right will come out of it but it was not clear and then in the second meeting we kept reading from her mama he said and as you know there was you know people pay attention this is a lesson i think till all of us to be very careful that that those students that were told that they didn't need to do something now have been given you know the green light that they don't need to worry about making something up because that is obviously you know very concerning so let's say you need a revote are there any more questions responsible and i'm not proposing recruiting we change a process but i think parents ultimately the fact that they're engaged is good so maybe it's not a letter and i was never getting a letter i was just making the point that there are still communication that is unclear and i know you're working through this and to tina's point maybe it's not a letter as tina said maybe it's just a posting on our website that we could point parents to but say this is the curriculum and we don't have to take an action that i wasn't in production i was giving you kind of just updated feedback sure on what i'm hearing and i'm hearing a subset and i just think that it still is unclear as to why so maybe we do a checkpoint after we've had all the guidance meetings after all the students of  see just see where we are where we have a meeting week from tonight and just realize that you're so by the end of this week we'll really know better where our students stand and what questions we still have and what some of these smaller decisions are whatever  we making and i would you know be happy and other matters next week to tell you where we are and if we still think communications us or you can figure that out as i say the parents like the things that as i've explained them based on the feedback in the discussions that that's no reason why a parent can't pick up the phone and call but i don't suppose they are either speak directly to them and i think if they're not feeling like they're getting specific answers then you know we can we can go down different paths but i think that  sort of hints to one of my hesitations which is that part of the confusion has been when this program studies night the different guidance counselors what they were saying to parents what what we were saying at this table what was then said individually or were kids were saying to each other i think there's been too many people trying to communicate a very complicated message so my preference would be just to let the guidance counselor's do what they do best which is personal this is a very personal decision yes so let them answer that for the kids and let's see where we are at the end of the week because that's the place to get answers and so my hesitancy to you is is to many of us who aren't really involved in them process myself included to try to be correcting misperceptions or educating people because the education or the satisfaction will come when they actually know what their own personal schedule looks like and that's the way it is the beginning of time saying i don't want to mess up works well i'm not sure what that could be said at this point as you know in a general way because like you said it does come down you you know each each parent wants to make sure that their child is taking the classes that they need to take and they're meeting the requirements and if there's some kind of certain special stipulations they want to make sure that those are being attended to in the context of this new requirement so i mean again i think we give it some time but certainly tell them if they want to be so i just think we i think i think we should continue to take the pulse that's awesome yeah i agree ok so we need to then to take a review from the previous vote and what do we want to say that w correction of the effective ok so second i'll second any further discussion all those people five zero and now another motion to increase the requirement from to two four years of peace and high school to mean an increase in this play and at the end of the three years our first objective which was to continue to offer a curriculum is rigorous and dynamic and promote a high level of achievement for our students we have a number of goals there and we've talked a lot about this as far as the baseline and benchmark but with three year goals we wanted to see where we were with the goals we set three years ago and when we look at those in relation to impasse or a p or s a t we've exceeded those goals good news it is good news they  really is and in the middle of that we've had things thrown in the change where we have the impasse and now transitioning where we're field testing the park and there's been a lot of changes but at the same time it's really good news when we look at warning to expand participation for student achievement in extracurricular activities we've had a lot of teaching and learning highlights where we've unable to highlight the programs the really strong extracurricular programs even just here in the last week the scholastic art awards reached the highest number yet with twenty five scholastic and are working at an upcoming meeting less she was twenty two which was the highest number and  so it's a little preview of exciting so when we look at that whether it's the academic whether it's the arts all of those programs were really pleased to see that you know we set goals that were rigorous three years ago we've been able to meet those goals and then exceed those in many of the areas as far as the strategies to go about meeting those goals just some things to highlight here the data system which was our own data warehouse if you will for looking at students estimates we have as you know tons of assessment because it really does take a lot to look at student achievement and that we've been able to implement that this year expires looking at student progress over time and that that huge initiative and we continue its part as response to intervention and looking at our students where they were before us and where they go afterwards so that's been a big process this year we will continue we have our curriculum cycle  continued wellness a lot about wellness and social studies those are two of the curriculum reviews that are going on right now they're going really well a lot being done in those areas and professional development to really maintain strong professional development programs with our professional develop committee meeting this afternoon and we were deep briefing base it on the january p d day and looking at all of our feedback that came from all of the sessions and really the message that came back through all of those sessions was the strong collaboration and collegiality and the focus on student work and assessment and where we're going with students and that really came out strong and that we have strong offerings in choice we have for on site graduate courses that are taking place this year with possibly a fifth based on that the number of people enrolled in the math course that's taking place at the elementary level so i was so excited by that i number of our teachers we have twenty nine people in rolled in that course and we have teaching a k to two math course with third grade teachers because some of them saying can i still take the course i know it's catered to and we've allowed them to take the course but yet she's looking to see if she can offer the three to five course this summer and then we have a writing course in a reader's writers workshop course that will be offered onsite this summer so we're really strong professional development opportunities for teachers and that doesn't even count all of the courses they're taking whether they're in their own masters programs doctoral programs even with teachers and that they're i'm taking outside of the district and that's one of the things foxborough has historically done and we do  really focused on the priorities of the district so it's not just about offering courses that are convenient but are focused on so we do want to be have for teachers to offer local local you know low cost them opportunities but for us to be able to school culture ensuring that students staff and other stakeholders feel valued say and have a voice looking at our goals under that particular object of a lot of that really focused on collecting baseline data and working with k twelve insight for those culture and climate surveys and taking that information and making a difference within the schools and we've had that data for a number of years now we will launch that survey for parents staff and students in march actually around march seventeenth that survey will launch again to continue seeking that feedback which is really been important for us as a system the educator evaluation which we've talked a lot about as well which know a really big change for educators across the state a lot of work and time has gone into that we have our team eighteen teachers it's twelve teachers and six administrators on that group that have been together for three years we just had the results of our survey come back with three surveys last year really trying to kind of dipstick if you will what's the current level of implementation where teachers are feeling with that because it really is a huge change for them and what we found with the results of the survey that just came back that teachers really feel comfortable with the evaluators with really knowing the rubric there's thirty three elements on this rubric that they have to provide evidence for but with all that we've put upon them and with principals and evaluators we were really happy to see that that we had a great participation rate for the survey which was really important and that the majority of them truly understand the rubric and they're really valuing the feedback they're getting from these multiple multiple observations from their evaluator coming into their classrooms so that was t question there's are you getting feedback and do you are you finding feedback helpful so we're asking a lot of perceptions you feel comfortable having open and honest dialogue your value and to what extent so that's most important to us is that not just says our third objective to prepare students for the skills for the twenty first century we've talked a lot about this in districts where we're really wanting to get away from that that's worth twenty first century learners where it is two thousand and fourteen and  as as it really is educators because we talk about those four c's the collaboration the critical thinking the communication of the creativity and how we're using technology to maximize those areas and i think that if parents are able to come wednesday night to the parent technology to have a little plug at the same time that really is the focus is to show how technologies are being used to promote collaboration to promote creativity and critical thinking and communication it's not about the tool it's what we're doing with the tool and that's what we're doing within every one of our curriculum areas and so reschedule from a snowstorm wednesday six thirty foxwell high school and if you didn't pre register that's fine you can write what you want your show all right and there babysitting babysitting will be provided by the national honor society but a lot of the strategies here really stim to the technology plan which we again talked a lot and done a lot so far this year the mask  the last objective to maintain strong support for public education within the town of fox so i think they're teaching and learning highlight the following matter with the partnership really is a great example of how we do have strong support for public education from the community and that we continue to do what we can to also communicate to the public like the district report card that went out for the second year here so a lot of work is being done within and around the community to really support the year year and a half and do actually put together the plan and then the plan was three years out in as were coming to the end of the plan and i am so impressed with how much works been done and that we have really achieved  surpassed some of the goals that we set and it's really impressive i as far as the technology some of the things we're doing that the kids are doing with the technology and classes we didn't even know system and you know how proud we are naming bill for your leadership and what you've done but to me this document is just a great reflection of the so we couldn't do it without the community support and we are very lucky to have year just a few months before i took over superintendent and so the new superintendent with a new play in it is a lot of work in that and i think you know not that i ever wasn't comfortable you see so much work you say oh my goodness can this all happen in three years two when we went over the updating i thought this really is coming to fruition like we really most of these things are really going to come to a nice end of the road by the end of the school year when we do our live very last update on it and we really are ready to form a new play and i think because it represented so much work you know part of me was wondering are we going to this three year plan and we're going to roll you know a third of it over into but it it really was just right i give you know the huge committee so much credit because we i love to highlight the dates and whether it is him progress whether it is completed or completed and ongoing and it's the reporting of it is excellent so that at every step three year plan the question is what are we going to do now so as i wrote in the memo i'm here really tonight to hear what your thoughts are my very broad thoughts were that we don't need to go through a year and a half process because we had a process that worked the components of it that worked really really well although it took a lot of time because we didn't have anything was gathering data and we had to go search for that data last time distilling the data down to what the priorities  in terms of its weight of importance and then the swat that we called the swat process which was what our strengths were weaknesses where our opportunities and were threats to getting to where we want to be and i think those we are familiar with and they really worked well so i would like to keep the months we had but i don't feel we have to start from scratch again i think we have so much data now that we didn't have before we have the data warehouse of all of our academic data we have assessments across the district multiple layers that we didn't have before at all we have data from our cultural climate survey says we have thirty years we can look at lunch trends for what parents are saying was students are saying and what our staff is saying we have the mass tell survey that  educators take this is a statewide survey on their experiences educators we've entered bullying data we have drug alcohol data we are new tech play in this mass to evaluate is one of the best things we've done we're going to have a lot of data after tomorrow we're going to actually spend the next two months collecting data about our tech initiative so that we can evaluate them so by the time we get to that point to that fourth i mean the third goal which is around technology or the use of it toward academic you know advancement that we are already going to have that data collected as part of our tech play and evaluation so we'll be able to bring that right into the street planning group and that's about a fourth of everything we need and that will already have been collected and analyze evaluate a team which is ten people and we should wrap that up sometime in may we're just trying to pick dates today and the educator evaluation survey so we're at the point where we feel we have a lot of data already at the ready and it's just a matter of distilling it and and seeing what priorities emerge through our processes so i was thinking as i mentioned that we could do this ourselves and do it within a few months period maybe ambitiously thinking we could wrap up by july or certainly by august maybe september sometimes but i do think that we could have another iteration of the plea and in place using the same types of processes and doing it ourselves so i don't how you feel when you see doing it ourselves so what we're doing when we have an outside get an outside facility time that we learn a lot from i think it's safe to say and i think i think that we can replicate that process through our own leadership team and with the help of the committee and that's why when i sent don't feel the need to second in all disagree poor car that just got mail to postal customers in foxboro that i said we're about to do this so if you as a community member or parent have interests please let me know so i think if we could recreate the same process of a few community members a few parents a few teachers if you administrator and and put together kind of a balanced team that we could lead ourselves through it because i do think we have the strength of the talent to do that i believe that again or perhaps you in a didn't that's a job i enjoy it but i wouldn't want to deny anybody the opportunity to participate if they were interested in fresh eyes are always good to have and if you are if you have an if you're if you are participating on e if you're participating on a team or a committee that is designed to inform me that it's not a subcommittee and it's not a meeting so to be fine i think the more you that that's going to go down the road sitting on its own we've got some pretty good experience to have the consulting firm give us a roadmap well it wasn't a consulting firm was actually a parent in the community that used to do that process for nonprofits and she now works full time in boston so she's not actually doing that anymore at the time she had time to do it as a volunteer so we didn't actually use a firm we use a local expert who was wonderful but i think there were many of us who were on that and i have all the records of what we did and how we did it and we have so much data now that i don't feel if you remember it took us almost a year to figure out what information we needed and how to get it right and  was that was the trickiest part of it all go through and we have people that were on this before that understand the process yet so i think that that's if we need additional sources i'm sure we can see those but i have confidence  with what would be your thought on how the rest of the committee would input into the plan through that process well what happened last time which seemed to work pretty well is that we came up with a draft as cheaply and it came to the committee for review and before the committee  if there are any areas you wanted more information or were you know what were the underlying root causes of why we set that as a priority then we came back but i think there were two meetings there was a first draft there was discussion if you want more information the committee that took that under advisement and then we came back for a final approval a good point because i think that was i remember as well wanting to have input even though i wasn't on the committee so maybe we could get s and i remember one of the very final meetings we had over at the recreation sell it was it was during the school year that we had that meeting and we had whatever wherever we were at that point that would be it that would be you know it would be a bad idea be a good idea so you can really become more familiar with all the greedy and and feel comfortable about it make sure though that we do have some input early on as well so like in the yes maybe you can give us some ideas and we can see if it's enough for us to feel like we have enough meetings to to respond to it sounds good ok great you want to hear from us right yes so if you remember last year i provided you with a lot of documents about how i was coming along and i thought i got great advice and i'm assuming that you wanted specific evidence still for progress toward my individual goals which i am invited for you tonight where i think i am in my goals as well as some data to back up some of those things and then in terms of last year i provide you with s evidence for all of the standards and indicators in the superintendent's rubric and very wisely the committee said maybe we don't need all of this cycle and maybe you could just come in yes or three questions and i wrote them down for beta which is what i'm really proud of what am i working hard on and what challenges do i face and that maybe would provide a really good focus for discussion at the media point as to where i think i am so i wrote you the memo as a result of that and you know i don't mind time really if you know having a really like how you did this i liked reading your memo here which you know here just your personal feelings and responses to those three questions and then i also i did also really like this to look at  do what your role is is just trying to find that balance that how do we make forward progress juggle all the initiatives meet all the the constraints in the mandates and still feel like we're doing quality work with students on a personal level and i think that's that's the rub you can be very focused on meeting requirements but what do we do for kids every single day which is what i teach is really focused on that sort of personal approach to education that i know we value here  foxboro so minging that change process to a robot can be really difficult as the as the leader of the team and i know it are all of our team leaders feel that way that managing that change process can be difficult in any environment but in a complex educational environment and in the public sector it can be even more challenging because everything we do is very transparent and visible so we're not the company that can say we're going to take awhile and probably figure this out i mean everything is you know what you see is what's happening so i do sometimes feel that some of these initiatives that are coming down from where they're supposed to the governor's office of the federal government that sometimes they don't even have relationships to one another so they can feel very isolated and  that process of prioritizing for us is and having clear action steps really requires a lot of careful attention we spend a lot of time as the minister of team really planning out how to do something well not just how to get it done but how do we do it well in a way that has meaning and is important and that you know in the end will find that we've got something out of it i think that that's really you know that that's really and so we feel that these things happen in isolation we feel it teachers feel even more so so as we're planning carefully we also have to try on on our level to show some connection for us deaf so that is less isolating for them that they can see that there's going to be a relationship in the future  relationship now you just might not be able to see if i can be really challenging and then because i worry about the soul part of education i do worry about how are educators going to maintain their level of enthusiasm their love for teaching while trying to juggle this incredible workload and in the demands that just keep piling on in this environment so we worry about the softer things about how do we get this done so people still you know don't lose their their enthusiasm and don't lose their driv their passion for what they do because they didn't go into teaching to be mandates they went into it because they love the children in front of them every day so you know how we going to balance what we need to do and encourage them to continue to find that passion and not have to like go out is is really challenging and i think we think it's so funny because i feel like you know from an outside perspective in being on the committee but obviously not saying that day to day when you talk about professional development and you talk about these you know our professional i think that if you keep that in the focus like you and sure you and your team do that that will be at the forefront of all the decisions that you make because you know in order to keep your professional educators involved and feel like they're stakeholder that then that's going to then you know translate into them you know doing the things that they're doing which is being better at what they do right and learning more so we constantly talk about what can we take away and there really is very really a a good start but i'm glad this is an area that you worry about and that we continually strive toward because let's face it as a community we can do things programatic way but at the end of the day it's that interaction between the teacher and the student so yeah and the more dynamic and engaging we can make that our outcomes will grow so i think that's i'm glad you call that out to the point that i forgot to say which reminded me of is the one thing i don't worry about is providing the resources for the change process because i think we're lucky here  supporting the town support that it's not like it's not that we're rolling in it right but we find a way and you find a way and we find a way work in the town to really provide at least the basic things we need to have that change process forward because that would be even harder for we said we you know we have to do this and we don't have any resources to get behind it so that's the one thing i don't worry about and i said no to the imprint so thanks for that in your evaluation from areas with some progress made to areas where we've exceeded progress i think there is a broad and accurate representation i i love the fact that you have a specific stance and business growth plan because all the literature says you know says that the science and technology areas are going to continue to be very is a future job growth an opportunity so i think that you the fact that you have especially called out document and plan about that is important know some data on what kinds of things are the kids doing it so that will be that will be great really interesting and the other i just wanted to have to talk about for a second on the second page school to be investigate the potential for development of computer program yesterday after school called curricular activity opportunity rather i mean we had some students in here the hour for the about the hour of code a few weeks ago and they were you know so that my goal for september was the engineering course which is happening and you see it's very in the additional information and we were successful in getting that you teach engineering grant while our teacher goes something said about that in the goal was you conversation with the folks at schneider electric got to practice that in terms of if they you know if they if they have any resource that could help us it is a challenge as you can imagine somebody teaching a programming course when things change in that field you know frequently but it's not not doable so it's going to just take us a longer time to figure that out but then you know some of the traditional tours that he gets or then we go to the english department of good science department and i just decided nontraditional tore might be in order so we went down to see the thousand paper cranes and we saw the cafeteria and we talked a lot about the new s b a rules for the sizes of the cafeteria and the media center and so we had discussion about that about how we're we're so grateful that we were there we went with a renovation project we still have a two story media center we're building new that would not happen so we talked a lot about those things you know when with him it was a good topic of conversation when we went to visit some of our other classes like joe's class pay for him and we went down to visit he would he was very fascinated when i told him we still had a so we went to visit the apple to the equipment and he just he couldn't believe it he turned around and said don't ever let this go i said oh do not worry when i put the kind of learning is so important for some students and it's very popular and then we went to the cad lab so we looked at graphic design and the equipment that we had in the area was so impressed and then we went to like down the down the outweighing the gym and we went to the wellness center so we could see what the y m c a had done and he was pulled away by that so i call it the nontraditional tour but we get in some really good conversations about the variety of students that we serve and what's required to serve them out you know that's not always the traditional classes and my favorite part of the tour was how many times he noted how clean well maintained the high school was so kudos to our meetings and yeah because he couldn't believe how pristine the building was and how we're spectral environment was from students so that was my favorite part of the to ourselves for thanks are like to bring up something for us to maybe ruminate over for a while there was one way it is there was already scheduled a professional day professional workshop day but that week we were not in school and and then we were in school the next day and then we were not in school and then we were in school next day and then the professional but two of those days were snow days so the question is when we're looking at  schedule next year which is always a sensitive how do we balance that some of the teachers have expressed a concern to me who are we because we are adding each year we add more a p classes when you start missing school a p classes there's no make up time and those exams come in anyway so do one would we ever want to consider starting the school year before labor day so this is just for us i mean that that's a concern the teachers are now well we we have to actually by contract we have to offer the law like nobody's problem or debit but we had five last year and we're three now so i would say if you can order up no snow i'd be grateful but i don't you know if we didn't have that we have you ok but i don't know if we can professional we have to one hundred eighty five day calendar we do three professional development days the week before labor day if we were to have students get say if we do only two of those days and then students come for two days then we still have the third p t a we normally do before kids come interrupt so that that's why that would then provide more and during the year when people don't want it right we're only gaining one day and we're gaining in interruption so when we've had conversations with you know o our teachers you know a group of them that doesn't that in most people's minds does not make it worthwhile because i think sometimes we think wolf we could get three kids days in before labor day but that wouldn't happen for us because we have five p d days so we would end up instead of three p d days and the kids wait to come back we would have monday and tuesday p d s and kids back when say thursday and then the school year is going to be interrupted again and teachers dislike that more on another friday or monday and just have teachers come like we do those two days so what we've the feedback we've gotten my teachers that they like to have the year not like in and many parents actually idea not to have it interrupted more than twice and we need to do by roll call yes yes so we are going to go into executive session for the purpose of discussing strategies with nonunion personnel individual contracts including the superintendent and strategies are very retention litigation the