issue of whether or not the judge was justified in reaching an adverse credibility finding the courts filling out applications for people generally going to rubber stamp standard applications what facts would be applicable to any topic or thoughts coming from egypt at that point in time mr syllabus has limited english ability at that point has been in the united states a relatively short period of time you ask you about language did you  language i specifically don't know your let's assume that he did for the purpose of the next part of the question which is on the record did he say now th three four months ago that involved in the individual who had said i'm i'm i'm having great difficulty with english language be now that i'm very good translator has translated to me what my answers were on that application form they're entirely inaccurate and seen the document preparer has a history of being sanctioned by courts for as a notorious dark inaccurate document prepare now as far as i can tell none of those three things are present here is that right i believe that is correct his knowledge of english language changed at the time he went through his asylum interview for the questions claim and after years having passed the ability of understanding and learning uncomprehending the english language at that point he was able to not only so that is his testimony but action if you are a christian and you have to be subject to persecution by the muslim majority there at the hearing when he was asked he described in detail several incidents where he personally had been persecuted by muslims and how that semitic grabbing documentation why what was wrong with the i j a saying i can't reconcile those two things and they go right to the heart of the coin because the immigration judge in this particular matter assumed something the conclusion that if a preparation service does that for a living then they must invest or inquir specifically of mr sewell as to whether or not these events occurred the client was too full of those positions then i say that occurred there when he was specifically ask the questions once he could comprehend those before the immigration judge and i my dad had his asylum interview prior to the notice to appear at that time he answered the questions hon credibly and supported his allegations and his claims with supporting documentation at the time the finding of the immigration judge was to that he had the opportunity to present the evidence for him in regard to his own personal life experience was the asylum interview prior to his appearance before the immigration judge ok thank you very much hope this is more pleasant than the last time absolutely good morning dan and he's very representing the government in this matter and just answer the bore or the question with regards to notes about the asylum interview i i don't believe that those are in the record anywhere the immigration judge felos did not understand the nature of the questions that were being asked of him or that the actual questions on the asylum application at the time that he completed the application it still does not seventy two yes but he was also asked at the same time so as to the asylum application are there any changes additions or corrections the attorney for the petitioner at that time because he was represented by counsel who presumably would have explained the assam application to him your honor i believe his address is changed but that's all so the immigration judge then was rightly justified in determining that it was significant that these two contradictory statements with regard to his testimony and his lack of any mention of the four incidents in his asylum application went to the heart of his asylum  as response was that he went to an office where they prepared the sort of application right but what about that gives you any confidence for say going to go in there was a story well because that's the application but he and then at the very bottom of the page at page twenty four twenty five he says the application does not consist of any of those incidents the application consisted of just answering questions about when i come here and the reason why i came here and those were like general information not specific mines well it's pretty uncertain if it is consistent but he also mentions the fact that they asked him why did i come why did you come here well you might lose if you come here then and all of those questions then i mean they if you it appears if you were applying for asylum and you were an immigrant that you would at least know that the basis didn't know but even if we even if even assuming that the immigration judge did cut him off again i get back to the point that before the immigration judge he was represented by an attorney the attorney did take time to correct certain things on the application but didn't correct the fact that he failed to mention for incidents which are which lead to his asylum claim i don't know if you ever get involved in in the next case on the calendar of the united states against roosevelt tylwyth council come forward let us know about that official da