government want to join it and bob forrest a member of the missile light advisory committee and perhaps i don't know who made the changes to the contract but we had discussed this at a prior meeting those of you that may be watching at home and in the audience here we've been going back and forth with mr palmer in terms of a performance bonus related to the substation completion which i believe and there is some compensation there are there are some compensation but there are some financial components of that amendment but retroactively in prospectively in gyms in the both of you what you put in the mikes place palmer's predecessor gyms program is a very different type of a program and you cannot actually determine how much is going to cost by course because they are odds modules that it doesn't it doesn't seem to translate so that by going by the actual wording of the contract g m would be reimbursed approximately seventy five percent for this professional development in total for the entire  courses he step for the programs he's taken already that he's only receive seventy five percent and that for the remaining one course that he has the town will pay be bussing universe city for the program to pay him directly so basically it's just a matter of changing the language to make it a one hundred percent reimbursement as opposed to the seventy five ok i'm going to i'm going to read it when we can bob prep work as to the financial issues so it's to section six of the current contract  developed should be amended to read as follows the council provide rational development for the general manager for the full cost your point of course is complete in a field of study related to the general manager's duties of useful like apartment the balance of payments made by the general manager that have not been fully reimbursed for the found under the previous professional development vision will be reconciled in payment adjusted by general thirteen two thousand seven hundred to satisfy the intent of this agreement so it has a retrospective aspect to it for the final program semester in two thousand correct this is a change in that the supreme in the university directly for the final mester of module work in capsule capstone trip to the general manager must complete to obtain a graduate degree prior to the town's making a direct claim for the final program semester the general manager must submit a copy of the transcript he receives with the grades for the prior semester the grade average for any module during a progress made less than three point zero the forward semesters directly and it will be reduced by the amount paid for the prime l greater if we pay the university directly does that mean that if he does not obtain a three point zero i'm sure he will we have any recourse and on recouping those funds from this time are yes because this contract says that should he not get a three point  thanks i prepared a summary of the financial effect of this proposed change based on some figures the gym it provided to me and i'll just go through those briefly the summary  the reimbursement under the current clause includes approximately forty thousand dollars that has been paid to date and thirty five thousand that would need to be paid in addition to that to make up the seventy five percent that was in the prior agreement the reimbursement under the proposed revision is fifty two thousand and change from twenty five percent w no i'm sorry the twenty five percent i politics is twelve right there's twelve yes there's twelve grand hundred s and one hundred fifty two we currently have paid thirty nine and change so it is a net of twelve for rent for the courses already taken today five to be paid for the final semester is that thirty five thousand here in the second column the i'm out that is to be paid right now is down at the bottom and that is twenty three seven fifty jim has already paid jim would be twenty five thousand or twenty seven thirty three but retroactively introspectively yes is that correct and that's yes that's for the as usual the divisional amount that would be due if the original contract continued there would still be thirty five thousand dollars to pay because that the that the twenty three seven first so under the old agreement thirty five thousand dollars would be due to come under the new agreement it's sixty thousand dollars so the difference is th receive those grades i can then put in my reimbursement for the twenty three seven fifty you know a portion of the twenty seven fifty it already paid got it which is around seven hundred five or so got our numbers under stephen and then next payment i would have to make so what's the net effect like we would be paying under this contract amendment an additional about twenty five thousand dollars right to me because now the reimbursement is capped at thirty five hundred of course and we removing that cap and make a final payment and the net effect is about twenty five thousand more that's what life would be that's correct twenty five zero two seven thirty three i guess and so that would be an amount that's currently due to him  and the i guess the payment that's due next week would be full reimbursement and then the other every payment courses were twenty three seven fifty right and we would have paid you seventeen thousand five hundred paid that i'll be looking to get reimbursed for next week which right now into my current agreement is only valued at seven hundred five and that's i paid twenty three seven fifty so that's seventy five percent of the  but i mean you know in general it's it's pretty much been out there for quite some time ok but i think that you know i think what it came down to was that what was discovered when i started the master's program was that the original intent language that's in my contract was one hundred percent recovery reimbursement back if i when the my contract was signed back in two thousand and ten your original contract that was left over from my predecessor to merging with one hundred  it was right no it was originally it was he was originally one hundred percent reimbursement is my point that turns out that you know six years later eight years later inflation now are at it's only worth seventy five percent but the original intent of the language was one hundred percent that's what i tried to just to explain to you guys a year ago and and at that point i had to start the program so i says not worth you know wasting your time trying to discuss this any further i'll just go with what we have and try to make it work one of the point the point is that the reason it's seventy five percent is not seventy five percent language in the contract no but talks about thirty five hundred off per course yes and in effect with that resulted in a seventy five percent cap that's the point yes in today's dollars yes i mean i mean could you talk about it some more models versus course that's where the program set up so we kept the thirty five and i can remember the negotiation did not favor just giving jim an outright bonus when it wasn't in his contract and he was doing the job that we hired him to and you know my concern is we have a lot of good directors and managers in town and it just wouldn't look right without a town wide policy you know to give one general manager a bonus and not give all the other hard working managers and directors on the town side so this is certainly a novel approach that at addressing at addressing this concern let me let me just raise the big picture ok from five thousand feet up looking down  ok this will cost the ratepayers an additional twenty five thousand dollars i think the purpose of the professional development was to improve the general manager's duties at belmont light which which i understand and and i perfectly get right now your purse coursework which we would be prepaying as i look at this amendment would extend through june of two thousand and seventeen and my question to you my colleagues is why would we want to prepay for education costs and incur another twenty five thousand dollars in education costs if the general manager is contract expires april thirtieth two thousand seventeen and we may not have the benefit of that education that light because right now as i reviewed this contract this weekend it says this agreement shall terminate on april thirtieth two thousand and seventeen the general manager was supposed to have given us noticed several months ago of his intention to extend this contract which he didn't do so as i sit here today i need to justify to the rate payers why we would give an additional twenty five thousand and prepay for courses that the general manager will be taking after his contract expires when we may not even have the benefit of that professional development that's the big  to the lightning general manager i'm not aware of any other task to quibble that was given to any other department and you know i always say that people bring their bones in many different ways by reading a great set of it particularly in the last last or with regard to the asset purchase agreement is there no in patio ask you this question let's say that without well if you were to approve this proposed revision nothing would happen but the education would be paid for him would be reimbursed for the monies that he's you know been kind of short fall you know with the something into the agreement that says that should you you know should you not come to an agreement for continued employment then you would pay the you'd pay that final course at a different percentage maybe seventy five first started talking about a bonus there was never any thought of well maybe we're going to trim this bonus because you know we have a contract negotiation looming you know it was for work that's already been completed and work's been done so for that reason anything that you do this is for the favor if if we're going to increase jem's professional development we might as well take advantage of that education why don't we negotiate this in his upcoming contract his next three year contract why are we amending a contract that's expiring and if you're months and may not be renewed i'd rather focus on the future contract and that way at least we know if we're going to pay additional education costs that we're going to get the benefit of those for the next three years i would say except that this was only a solution to another issue which was the discussion of a bonus and and so that is certainly for as we've said you know activities that are totally completed and as yet unrecognized so similar the respect i understand your points but from my point of view i'm the one of the first part of the completion think realize that you do your job but i think we had significant within the substation i want to recognize him for that and for me this is a mechanism which we can do that it's education that we've gotten the benefit of as one final semester the difference between what we're all the get him the current concept of a completion bush because a fifty five million dollar bill which is a significant bill for this community which half of it now more than half it is going to be reimbursed by every source because of the work that jim did along with help and emily b and others is substantial for us it saves us additional costs we also get to tax if we get to the numbers involved thanks to your you know insight on that contract where that helped us to revise the current language within the contract we have significant additional revenues from tax seen on the personal property within that substation i think that those are some kind of recognition and i think this is one way to recognize  of the general manager's contracts section in the restated dr motion to approve an amendment to section six of the professional development agreement development professional development section 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