hi and welcome to healthy inspirations i'm your host lindsay smith as always the goal of this show is to encourage and inspire you to take charge of your life and your health today we have a special guests and healthy inspiration will run on well is the chief digital officer of crime on products crime offers a wide variety of all natural skincare products that are free from param and perfume and fillers so today we're going to be chatting all about natural skin care so welcome well thanks for being on the show today for having me yeah i'm just the number of chemicals you'll find in your everyday use so i think it's going to be really great i'm glad that we were able to stumble upon each other and i made it market and i look forward to chatting with you today so tell me a little bit about climb on and how you kind got started ok so climb on is actually a company that is owned by my aunt so it's a family business with family around i literally watched klein on growing up i mean i remember the days when climb on was out of my aunt's house so i was literally there watching her do it and now i get to see this wonderful warehouse that we have the thirty one countries that we're in i mean it's just amazing to be able to see where come from so little so a quick background is that climb on started just kind of as an accident it was it was creating a good thing of a bad my aunt used to live in california enter her house burned down and she had a cat named ivy and named a company after that i deserve all the lights and she focused on bath spawn body products and the accident that came about it she made a product called the climb on bar which is the product people are most familiar with now  for rock climbers hands and it became something that just kind of blew up so she went away from i these are little lights and moved on to climb on made the focus client the climb on bar and we've grown from there you know that's all the way back in from ninety five to two thousand and one so am i right was saying the climb on bar was first invented for rock climbers you're correct in saying that yes ok tell me a little bit about that so the climb on bar is a solid lotion bar at the time it wasn't like anything you've ever seen before and as we understand we haven't been able to find anyone else who actually made a solid lotion bar before us actually so we say we're the first to bring a small blue shamar the market and now it's it's not extremely common but it's something you still find and it's it's great for smaller areas on your hands but as it came along other folks are using it more recently folks with like cross fit but it's also great for aig some on psoriasis needs it on your lips you know cuticles you know all over your body your feet i mean anywhere you have skin you can use it so i have a climb on by myself and i was like i just when i when you told me the story of rock climbers i was like i am i going to use it but you can find many many ways so what why natural skincare why did your aunt decide focus on natural skincare why not just make something a little bit cheaper that you get out there well in the days of living in california and this is kind of the untold part of the story to me and it's just something that i recognize as being her her nephew is that she wasn't into the california lifestyle there's a lot of you know some dangerous slinging going on over there when it comes to money and all that stuff so it was an environment that she felt with healthy and she wanted and she always had a passion in products but aroma therapy and specific so she was a certified aroma therapy as she you know did some around aroma therapy studies and that's kind of where the california part came from sir house burned down in california she was already doing a room in therapy as a hobby and basically it was ok my house for announce is a sign i'm moving i'm starting over and i'm i want to make products that are amazing and i want to make really multi purpose products and you know like you said the climb on bar there's so many uses you don't even you know we it feels like every day we can find a new use for it we have a list on our website of one hundred uses which it's growing constantly because there's so much you know yeah so what how do people know if their skincare products are safe so this is something it's really tough when when it comes to the f d a they're not exactly the best when it comes to keeping safe products because they don't require safety testing on products and this includes baby and infant products so said no tests no testing there is no require testing so the companies which  yes yes there is a list of about ten or so and gradients that are banned but there's another like thirteen hundred ingredients that are banned in the european union that are not banned here so when it comes to the european union they're  very advanced in terms of their skin care so that's why when it comes to europe we're actually a really good in their market ok our largest distributor is in europe where you know we have some distributors all over the world but there are market really eats up the products because a lot of people they don't know what to look for when it comes to skincare products and just causing headaches in general i mean you can find all kinds of scary things and i would i never i never like i said i love clean eating and i never put two and two together that my skincare products could have this even harm more harmful chemicals in the food that i'm eating so what's the difference between a maybe a natural skincare products vers organic versus you know just something found that the dollar store so when it comes to the f d a again it's another really really blurred line so organic there are some standards they go to it and really when it comes down to  reason that we don't do that is it drives up the cost of the product we can get that organic certification we can easily just switch out and greedy energy and get that organic certification but it drives the cost through the roof so what came out recently is actually that just because it's organic doesn't mean it's safe just because it's all natural doesn't mean it's safe so you still have to look for the label so like one of the most common things that i always tell people what you see in and skincare products all the time is you'll see just fragrance so what on earth  fragrance mean so you say ok that's a good fragrance well what is in that fragrance you know so there's lots and lots of people who are allergic to those fragrances but you don't even know what it is but you have no idea what's in it they don't have to disclose what's inside this  so i know that we were just looking at a few products at home just that we had and they just say fragrance on the label and you have no idea what's in them and i have a good friend who has bad allergic reactions to things so how are you supposed to figure out what to avoid going to come to programs or even people that are gluten sensitive i know we've talked about that a couple times on the show some a lot of a lot of products actually contain gluten and so for people with celiac disease it's something you have to really be careful and look at what about so you said ok natural organic it's basically the same thing as the food industry similar now with something like fragrance of ingredients that you should be avoiding so there's things like butane aluminum was a big a big thing the people you've heard use you find lots of aluminum in deodorant yeah i have actually a deodorant right here and it is aluminum free it's an all natural one because i know that was a big exactly but i think this brand still makes it with aluminum as well sure but there are you know there are so many products out there that you you can find and we include this fact sheet with every order because our roots are teaching people how to take better care of your skin we want you to know and make an informed decision so this she comes in every single order that we send out and it's front and back it includes a bunch of facts at the top and then it list place too in kind you know and some of these things are made of i mean i just i know for ensued the yellow number five is derived from coal tar i believe so coal tar from the street basically from the ground is being derived and put in our products and then we inhale it we ingest it it's crazy i mean there's even something like so mineral oil you know that's that's pretty harmless you'd think  go that's good it it suffocates your skin it commonly irritates your skin so you know when you get down to the base of things the analogy that i really like that i when i was talking to my aunt yesterday is so when it comes to fragrance you can have the blueberry you can take the fragrance of the blueberry and if you just put the whole blueberry i'm going back a little bit when it comes to gluten and skin products we had talked a little bit about that and i want to mention so folks with celiac disease it was a study by the mayo clinic that they can actually put products with gluten on their skin but there's another disease related to it that they can irritate their skin what they need to make sure they're not ingesting it so you don't want to put it on your lips get in your eyes your nose any of those places are going into your body it's safe to put it on your skin but then you might find out that you're also gluten intolerant in your skin as well oh interesting yeah that was that was something i didn't know either that's my answer to extreme wealth of information and i kind of just wish i could take all of her information and just set it on a piece of paper the thousands and thousands of pages and hear what she's been doing for years she has been doing it since before ninety five when it was her passion working full time and climb on since two thousand and three no stranger at all yeah and it's a lot i mean i even get overwhelmed just looking at this list that you have there's i mean there's hundreds and thousands of ingredients that we really need to look at so what what piece of advice what maybe a short piece of advice to someone looking at a skin care product that they know if it's safe  my the easiest thing is that my aunt always used if you can't eat it don't put it on your skin ok ok we want to tell you to eat your product and i can assure you our products don't taste good i've tried it it's a little bit of a star and the other thing is just just like food if you can't pronounce it you probably don't want it so a lot of these things on here i stray away from because i don't want to try and pronounce a lot of them because there's like forty or so ingredients on here that you know there's you can't exactly pronounce them very easily and so i brought some products some of the more toxic products that we can look at in a little bit but i i was the same thing i was like i'm not about to go on you know dictionary dot com to see the you if you can eat it if you can't eat it don't put it on if you can't eat it don't play or send a good piece of advice so thanks well we are going to take a quick commercial break and when we come back we're going to take a look at some products that i brought from my house that are more toxic and some of will's products and just kind of see the difference so sta something's happening to the polar bear if we don't do something about it the entire species extinct by the end of the century go to save the polar bear dot org welcome back and we'll let's take a look at some of these products here just to see what kind of the differences and take a look at some of the chemicals that are in these products all right ok and see how we see what we have going on so like i said i switched all of my skincare out to natural products just recently probably within the past year but i still have some stuff lingering around of course so this one i can't even pronounce any of these things except alcohol is water and fragrance and that's a good point that you actually point out is when it comes to to water and products i always tell people we don't use any fillers in our products and we're not using water unless it's necessary the ingredients we put on our products they need to be there there's a reason for them to be there so we don't have a fragrance of our products either it's just it's a good accident of how they come up smell obviously we put out products that smell good but things aren't put in there extra to make it smell wonderful so when it comes to water why would you want water in your skin care product do you would like to pay for water i don't like to pay for water but that's and you know what i actually i learned to recently was that not only in skincare products but in cleaning products one of the things that i learned that some of the name brands were doing is they were actually in the in the regular brands not the natural brands of laundry detergent they were filling it w fifty percent water so your laundry detergent was fifty percent water and so that's to me that's crazy because you want to wash it you want to smell good and when it's fifty percent water you might as well just not pay for that you know so that was really interesting so as i walk through this basically i just see a list of a bunch of paragons ok which i'm sure that's a term that you're familiar with it's one of the most common i would say explain that a little bit because when we see a pair of an it's not like we're just looking at that list to see that word exactly ok so there's the the word parent isn't in here there's four different types of pair of products and basically when it comes down to it they're just one of the most dangerous things inside a skincare products it's a wide variety of things of my favorite resource which i could read all day long and learn something new is the environmental working group and when i mention that name to people they really don't know what i'm talking about but then i say it's the people who do the sunscreen studies so every single year they come out with a sunscreen guide and they look at tons different sunscreens and they read them and in recent years they found four out of five sunscreens contain potentially hazardous ingredients well well i actually brought the sunscreen with me so we can take a look at that you know let's see what this one water again is the first thing greedy and there is fragrance of here which why would you need programs for sunscreen silic you know ladies like in guys to want to smell great but at the same time you don't need to add fragrance to products to make it smell great i mean you can see i can't even pronounce any of these and i'm not going to really try or attempt  thing in fair bit and you know so are the amounts of chemicals in cosmetics too small too small to matter i mean i get that a lot it's like well you know i'm only putting i'm only spraying two sprays of this can't be that bad for that list how many of those we can't pronounce and how many of them are not naturally underwriting this on me at least have twenty chemical exactly so one twenty six is just a ballpark number it usually refers more to ladies because the ladies are mouthwash deodorant and the perfume so that's already a products right there so that is a lot and that's a really good point that you wrote it triggered something in my mind my aunt was talking to me about this yesterday  lot of conversations with there are she was talking about how every day she can literally read and learn something new and something she learned recently that she wanted to pass on is so in the terms of transfer newborn babies they they came to show that they had two hundred toxins and a new word maybe so were those toxins coming from that's that's that's the simple question i ask so you know you're you're using these products every day and then you might be transferring them on you're inhaling them you know none of that is good you're getting into your skin you're passing it on to others like even my friend who's really allergic to things even if she's in the room with someone who has a really strong perfume on belief yeah that's crazy it's very  very interesting i know since switching over to natural products when i someone got this pray for me for christmas which was very nice of them and i was like oh i'm going to use it the one day and i sprayed it on me and i'm mediately i got an instant headache because i think my body has been so program not to use those things that when i had it it was like well you made a really good point when we came in here and you're looking at that that it was hard to find the ingredients on the nothing and we have just a funny looking bottle then it's hidden on the bottom is what we found on a really small print and when you go to a manufacturer's website and you can't find their ingredients what does that say to you or even if it's tough to find a grievance and there's a lot of guys in this by the way blue one what does that lead to blue on their let's check we're going to start actually this list of common things you'll find all the time on the back here we were looking at the commercial break about what these things lead to so there's twenty five different things here and i'll just touch on a few because you might cry if you hear all twenty five so there is cancer hazard and see for using cosmetics and i heard that for women with breast cancer they were finding in their states really doesn't do those long term studies the f d a obviously so that's kind of thing you know there's unsafe in infant products like we said before there there are no safety testing requirements including b b and infant products so new mothers really aware of what they're using i saw sorry not to interrupt but i didn't see a thing the other day maybe a couple months ago that johnson and johnson and johnson and johnson company was trying to have their products one hundred percent safe and natural by two thousand and fifteen right something something like that it was a big push from other parents to push them into being a little bit more safe about their choices with their products and then and i think that's one of the most important things  is being aware and knowing that every every choice that you make really counts for the overall so when you choose to buy organic at the grocery store every time that scans in the grocery store you're you're putting a vote towards what you believe in and the same with natural skincare products of johnson and johnson sees themselves losing business you know they want to cater to that you're exactly right it's in the end it's all about the money to those kind of big corporation so you hit the nail on the head there so so tell us a little bit about some of your products here so here we brought a line of my favorite sets of our products so which ones your favorite i know you tr couple of i saw them i have to say i like the cream ok so i'll go with the cream here first the cream is one of my favorites a second product that was derived from the climb on barnes it's an easily spreadab and i'll talk a little bit here on the back of our cream label we actually say here a little bit goes a long way and it's it was so there you know i'm sure that you found that as a little bit goes along well here's the bar which i really i really love i didn't expect that when i opened it i was like i was like oh so very most solid that's a solid lotion so the other really cool thing is every single bar that we send out and trying to get out this little piece of paper the items that they do inside their products is they want to preserve them so this part of actually guaranteed for two years wow so you know we were able to find safe ways to make your product to last a long time all of our products have at least a year shelf life so i'll take a look at more of them here which yeah it's amazing to me that spray over there the spray this is one of my favorite i mean these are all my favorite i mean we have way more products on this but this is our face and body tonic so i actually used this in the car right before i got here and it's a refreshing energizing spray yes ok seal two so i would seal these yeah you can i can open absolutely these are all minus ok i just  new ones yes show off rather than the ones that were sitting in my bathroom you know yeah and it's a really nice refreshing pick me oh yeah that is i mean how can you put this you can put this on your site just spray it is it like a you can do  for your face ok actually but i use it all over my body because you know you saw my event set up it i mean it market you know that that stuff is not easy to set up you know so refreshing as the summer comes up here i know yesterday we had a really nice warm day so everyone started thinking summer this is our sunscreen and it was actually rated as one of the best sunscreens by the environmental working group in two thousand and eleven in two thousand  hang out that's my job with calling on so i get to enjoy it every day with people so awesome cool so people can find more information about you on climb on products dot com correct and what's your twitter handler so if anyone has quite a long products  so you're very active in that i know because we had all the time personally and business so ok most of our communication is actually through twitter so ok well great so if people have questions they can definitely reach out to us all right great well thanks well for being on the show today this was very very informative and i look forward to always learning more from you as i'll always do every time we talk i feel like i learned something new about skincare so it's going to thank you very much for having me and appreciate it thank you so thank you for tuning into healthy inspirations as always the goal of this show is to encourage and inspire individuals to take action in their life and their health if you know any local inspirations that you think would be a good fit for the show please e mail me at lindsay at the real you nutrition dot com or