a question here are that it's not how that function runs until well maybe not but the function you describe can still be performed if the pilot symbols are put in between the data box right if the pilot symbols are placed between the litter box there can be cross pressure or but there would be a problem and the problem is the problem if you were to put the symbols between that in a box the only way to do that given the way the system originally is you have the data which is representative frequency space so if i ask this would be the data and the x axis would be to what's important and so the point being it is if you if you add things to things together in the frequency domain transform that the mathematical result of that is accomplished and so they get mixed together so where does it say that in the record so that is set in the record it's shown on comp seven explain because you'd be doing this incredibly long amount of course correction a huge amount of data being used to do the smaller affairs who said that reserve where's the evidence in the record that's true they're saying that you'd have to have multiple pilots symbols if you put them in between the data blocks and that would be in a bit where we're doesn't record tell us that the way that this is describes your honor in the record by the b s expert is can be found on appendix that is found your own it's ten eighty four ten eighty four yes you'll see the page one twenty of the sex for money line seventeen every number every value that occupies just one frequency spot changes the value of every single one of the time slots input and then describes the frequency how that all works of that they all get but that's not saying what you're  is that is that the best you have so that that's saying what that is saying how that the pilots and wills are mixed in with the data and why that needs to be the case through the f f t what i'm saying is the point of the invention show patent is that there is a problem which reduces system throughput and hence the system efficiency called three lines eleven through thirteen and what i'm saying to you is the description i've just  maybe at the beginning of a block or at the end of a block which would consequently be between blocks and so i think that the just records construction included not just inserting them within a given block but also at the beginning or end or if out i'm going to put people into hotel rooms but that means that i have a certain any number of people and any number of hotel rooms one from many different who told me that what i would not understand that to mean is that you put people into the corridor or between the hotel rooms that's that that's not what the language says and furthermore the language probably could have said other things we could have said talked about for example truck example would be claim twenty where it  the board look did not the sole reason the board came to the contrary position was simply based upon an assumption that inserted into you must mean you could put it anywhere in between the box or in the box or any other place but if you're going to do that blocks are inserted into parang or combined where the data blocks so is that equating asserted into and combined with did those mean the same but i don't believe so in the read and you can see that same language reflected in claim understood i think the board got it correct that it's understood to be within or between one and more data blocks and that's a common usage of council use the analogy of hotel rooms in that you get put into that other analog just as well if you think of kids at a playground you've got the ball pits full of balls the kids jump into those balls are they jumping inside of those balls you know they're jumping into a group big the same if you break up a pile of leaves and the kids jump into those leaves their job they're going into the group and that's the way this claim from is understood and so when you put the pilots in in the frequency domain into the grouping of the data blocks and then as it's transforming you're going to end up with pilot walks disappear and the time the and the only transmission is in the time domain so pilot blocks must exist in the time domain to be transmitted and that's exactly our position they exist in the time domain and you look to the background which we were talking about and there again we're talking about what's in the time domain which is what we're both talking about a pilot exists in the time domain that's what was disclosed and there's nothing in the specification that says no no we're totally changing that kind of part and we're going to only put in the pilot symbols and then when they get transformed they're going to disappear into data blocks are you saying that maybe the specification doesn't explain why you would want to have ink in the data structures as opposed to between language that pilot blocks themselves are typically transmitted with data blocks again the only time the transmissions occur are in the time to me so they must exist in the time to me there is a third area  whether the symbol is within an individual block or between blocks right we are it does in the terms of when they are placed between blocks in the frequency domain where the pilot samples are between blocks in the frequency domain when they get converted into the time of the other answer my question where does the provisional tell us anything about that it doesn't express we tell us about that that's the problem right but the driver understood by a person of skill in the art as dr haas testified it leads one to know that that's how they're creating their first generated in the frequency domain and then convert it into the time domain so that there's a no no if g m symbol if there was a data within that symbol that it would no longer be known so it has to be just piles that have come through into the in the past and in the claim they destructor is in the time domain it's not in the frequency domain so if you look at the claim when it talks about the output of the modulator they're talking about that data structure being in the time to me and so that so again some of this is you know a little bit confusing everything starts in the frequency domain but together rather than modulator and it comes out in the time to me and then under our construction the pilot symbols still exist in the time domain just like in the come to line seventeen their pilots symbols they have the same structure as training symbols and again even in figure six which is the environment description of the time domain itself describing the environment the background all of that supports that the pilot it sort of is to the groups of data blocks can be between those data blocks and ultimately result  posed to enter the data blocks which might have multiple which would include between data blocks that's the problem that i don't understand the problem of course having again another thing that i go back to  point being is that if you're going to take this the way you're going to add a pile of bottom data symbol together and then add them together for a transform that's the natural the thing that's the result is that they're all mixed together so so the point being is you're inserting it into an individual dataset if the question is whether the language is proud enough to also include inserting it between due to simple straight right and that's why it's going back to the national language point of people  totems whereas no person could be inside a leaf that doesn't make any sense therefore and similarly it is the point of the invention was to get this into efficiency that i've been discussing  frequency space and add them that way and the thing that's going to happen is to measure thank you thank you thank you