pm greetings and welcome to another edition of time out for sports like the award winning time out for sports talk here at the belmont media center where for almost twenty five years we are still belmont's st and only live all sports eighteen in boston sports which probably will be the patriots but we're still going to talk about a anyway but it's a kind of start the softball football wise we need to turn back the clock a little bit to thanksgiving day when it was also cold outside extremely cold single the watertown raiders st win by belmont over watertown on thirty day in six years or seven years actually two thousand and eleven as other one hundred thousand apts roger snapped watertown six game winning streak the writers have won seven straight and then watertown and won the last six in a row because we had almost we had close to even in the series and then yeah yeah actually the belmont taking a one game lead in the series of them water time won the last six certainly up on a very cold day i'll show you how cold it is we have a photo morning well i don't know if they were doing this i think for a bunch of thanksgiving day games there was they were bringing out like the space heaters and we have if we can get to if we can bring the photo up we've got some of the spirit is this is one of the watertown players using the overhead heat lamps they also have those like torpedo space heaters and i think a big shout out goes to belmont public works they were able to get these on both sidelines and i think maybe even when they have the tools when they've had they could have just done it for the home side they would have to do it for both sides and  temperature was i think around twenty degrees but the wind chill had a feeling like zero that night for that patriots titans playoff game there wasn't any wind that night that was like the air temperature was zero it was and the one thing i will say is if you given a choice between wind chill feels like zero or air temperature zero i'll just take straight air temperature zero with no wind is longer layered up you don't feel that bad it's the wind that you know in the summer where we say it's not the heat it's the humidity in the winter it's not the temperature it's the wind chill coaching this was earlier in the game when the marauders actually were behind two minutes and thirteen seconds into the game the rogers trailed twenty to nothing because watertown successfully executed three consecutive on hold on a game  game it's like trying to kick a frozen rock so nobody wants to picked up ball up and it's probably hitch in the side the other thing is just being able to react and get down quickly enough to scoop it up the rd kick it was one where they actually they had to do it twice the st time ever want to watertown ran up and they actually the blue officials weren't ready the ball wasn't set so they made a rekick again and the rd time the kid pops up in the air and the one thing the belmont player didn't realize he could do and i brought i was talking about this with the coach in our season wrap up a cast that we did but he could've called for a fair catch on a kickoff but the kid didn't know that he was like a freshman or sophomore underclassman and the fact is you know so as a result the water temp player just drilled into him as the ball was he was about to catch it so they recovered that one and so finally on the th try belmont finally recover there's a little bit of a bronx cheer from from the fans who would arrive at the very very last minute of that game and so the bring that up because in fact the marauders did not attempt a single pass the holdout redact ran for about fifty yards as well he scored two touchdowns the two running backs combined for three touchdowns but there was not a single yeah there were no there were no running plays i  them st years of r c quarterback he's a pretty good runner i'm self and he he ran for a couple touchdowns they just decided you know coach the last time that happened in i don't know yeah it's quite the throwback but again you know i think when you factor in the weather it made football against them you know our line against their lunches controlled a lot of scrimmage and that's what happened when once the marauder successfully fielded a kick off you know i even joked about it during the game broadcast i said all they got to do is like field the kickoff successfully and they're on their way and yeah  happy to be on the mike again for the rd time in the history of the thanksgiving day game so that was that was a lot of st time to finally call it belmont win which was a lot of fun too but it's also going to be a busy winter sports season plenty of basketball and hockey games and in fact as of right now both boys and girls basketball belmont i think are a combined six and zero and shout out i don't know if you but the big write up in the boston globe earlier this week  article they did not make a reference to it here so i don't i don't see if it's you know you would think that that be the st thing that they would mention in the article but they did not say so apparently whoever wrote the article did not know either it's a quite a i be like larry bird and stuff car you know yeah sure you know that type of thing because brad bird hardly ever took him you know even though it was there where it's like he takes him all the time and later this year you will see  sports t v coverage of boys basketball and say they are i think therefore no girls basketball to win no also some hockey games coming up that masters in the control room working for us tonight and he's going to be the voice on a lot of those basketball drop the phone number for a little bit and show you the current what's going on here certainly this patriots season if nothing else is a different one from what we have seen in recent years for sure in fact the patriots for the  position and something that maybe patriots fans don't remember because we haven't been a rd seed in a long time to go back to two thousand and nine as a matter of fact pits of had a bye and have been a one or a two seed every year beginning with the two thousand and ten season and this year it's possible they may end up being a three or a four which means they don't get that playoff bye and they would have to play on wild card weekend see in that kansas city's plain old colin used to play jacksonville for the last games at home or they have a loss this year patriots win that when they've looked bad they've been looking bad on the world all season that's what's done them in houston ten in four you can see this coming sunday their acts the adelphi the eagles all of a sudden well they put in you know nick is back at quarterback we all remember how good he was right i think we have fortunately patriots fans know all too well to upset the rams last sunday night in l a and now they're going to be home in a game they have to win the office fighting for their playoff lives  miller they lost the last two games a season and they get nailed it tara was from miami yeah and the that was ok so you're considering the losing to pittsburgh this week pittsburgh's a bozo team that the i glorious superstars the last two games and look for all they played consistently poor football all year they've made stupid mistakes along the wins they were lucky to have they get a kick a that's missin field goals miss an extra points when he's walking around like this and i know it's but but if that's when they've looked their worst this year is they just have not been a good for whatever reason they're playing on discipline and poor football on the road they actually surely at home have not looked at bad fluttering all year yes and been all that good in the bills if you spent a horrible house in your yap and it was even got to throw to and again the pictures went to buffalo and although the bills were in that game for three quarters of a because of their defense you don't buffalo's defense is going to travel it's not going to never gets leaked out at all until these guys like leave the team and then they talk about it but it is long as they're patriots as long as they're playing for bill you never hear about that stuff that he says in the locker room i mean you just hear about it at troy brown you know once he became a projects build his beans about everything but troy brown when he was a player never talked at all about bill bell object as a coach and that's the big difference it's done work to forget on no bid on the patriots or worse but who says we're worse than the jets or buffalo all in that they just like to win just to stick it to the pats corner that's how it is so that's the way we're not seen to play because they've got nothing to play flaw other than the fact that they can play spoiler that's a possibility if the patriots want to play the way they played the last two weeks close those games absolutely but they haven't really done that is home this year as bad as the patriots played they sliced the game by one point and then lost the game by once so if the patriots just played five percent better which isn't that big of a deal they would have won both games so you'd be happy you know because i haven't liked what i've seen oh yeah so if they were if they were but it's eleven in three you wouldn't be happy you wouldn't be happy you can see him out running the patriots offenders on his way after he was the rd person catching up the ladder but again without that crazy play happened in the pages one hundred dollars and won that game and in the st half brady looked very sharp against the dolphins they scored twenty halftime of the dolphins game i mean we're only talking the last game in a half where the office is literally putrid and again those were games on the road playing you know in a hostile environment they've always had problems in miami we know that brady has a losing record there for his career but if they had seven houston does ok i'm talking about what the patriots are doing that is so one characteristic that i don't see them turning that around now after going fourteen games playing like this or i agree with you yeah but what is kansas city go the way this team is playing on the road they're not they're not capable of doing that not to mention the fact that bill belichick teams that have losing records on the road don't win super bowls and you know usually make early playoff exits times like all of a sudden you start to think like i shocked if the patriots didn't make a deeper and i don't think i'd be shocked because some of these other teams also have even have been playing up and down this year is dave mentions you know they've struggled against some bad teams you don't know i just i don't know to be honest what i put what i put  large amount of money the page is going to super bowl this year no in fact i don't even think i put a large amount of money they get back to the super bowl because history is against them their super bowl losers don't don't get back to the game but i'm just saying let's let the season play itself out they're going to win two more the going to be eleven and five and you know if used and does stumble here then the patriots end up as a two seed and it would be a big shock to see houston stumble in philadelphia where the eagles are planned right now it's all that's all i'm saying and what's houston done under bill o'brien is used to this one so if we get them at home again they should lose to us using your strategy you said that they've done with they're supposed to do and i said i agree with you which is pretty bad teams and the paper and they have a lot of bad teams so why did they lose to us when they beat though you say the patriots lose to bad teams these teams aren't so bad until after they've beaten the patriots then something happens to them this is been a weird year when like let's take jacksonville back in week to where they thought the patriots in their own and there was a lot of reasons for that they had lost the a f c championship game last year so there was the whole built in revenge this was jacksonville super bowl but the problem is someone forgot to tell that entire jackson jaguars team which i believe was still a pretty good team at the time having appeared in the a f c championship game last year gillette stadium that after week two used a couple of games to play well they beat the patriots and then just totally went into the tank it like being the patriots just wore them out to a point where all of a sudden they became easy fodder for the rest  played after they left are good strategy let them put all your energy plans let them beat you let them be you and then they'll go on to be a lousy team no distance it's not a strategy i just think jacksonville put it you know they tried so hard to beat the patriots i shocked i didn't expect jackson to be this bad this year how about detroit they stayed bad true with a new coach who was trying to implement his own system also a coach though unfortunately given the fact up until last year he was over on this side of the anything to do with it no that made it possible for the fluke the play to win the game is what it wasn't so much just the flukey play it with the patriots play before that that allowed a flukey play to beat them because they didn't capitalize in the in the red zone they didn't capitalize on their field goal and extra point and that was was that the game that brady didn't throw the ball away for the the nd here want a yacht that way again another uncharacteristic stupid mistake about how the brady at the end of the half they forewent the three points because brady supposedly forgot how many timeouts there were again you know maybe maybe that's the all time to start to kick in well you know he doesn't want to get hit you know to  would have to say this you know he's finally looking like he's a forty one year old quarterback as most quarterbacks that are forty one that are still playing in the n f l they look like this i mean which is a word i used to seeing it because it's tom brady is warren moon said it's your reaction your reaction time is gone shorter point well i think it's by the way for you know i was looking at brady stats last year compared to this year and if he kind of has a couple of you know games where he throws for three hundred yards here in the last two games which may or may not happen but in adelman where they had four chances down there to tie the game and he threw high four times again that's another uncharacteristic play there's no question again very in a characteristic here's the play i'm talking to brady with the throw this is the one i was trying to throw the bottom bounds down as as it's been there see in these games at the end you know what that sounds like that's kind of like would be into cat said we were in st place more with more days than the yankees were but you know again you want to you know what that's what actually sounded like it sounds like what pete they've all said it parity the whole idea of create dave created a league with a salary cap and parity so every season every team has a chance to win the super bowl effect with the patriots have done since bill bell a check and tom brady joined forces since two thousand and one is nothing short of incredible you know tom curran wrote an article about a month ago in b c sports boston talking about patriots dynasty two dollars that this dynasty is gone so long that it actually broke into parts like the there was the one hundred and eight era or whatever and then in in two thousand and nine and of course two thousand and nine they they beat daly were a wild card team and they won the division but they had a play wild card weekend if you remember they were home to baltimore ray rice starts the game with an eighty yard run they lose and that was the last last season where they didn't win twelve games either you know because after that but from that point forward i mean this they took off and now this franchise is the point of currents articles yet you talk about the fact pages have a lot of contracts coming up next year and it's going to be very tough for them to keep this current team together any way off seen brady pissed let me tell you see brady yellin and receiver yelling at mcdaniels you know we're is it well let me ask you this which is the emotion you remember that special they did on bill belichick a few years ago a football life it was kind of a work the n f l films kind of looked behind the scenes of that two thousand and nine team as a matter of fact and if you remember there was that one moment during that special where they show brady and belichick i think it was during the game in new orleans was like a monday night game where they were getting would totally waxed and bell a check says i don't know if i can reach them i'm starting to wonder if maybe there are certain players on this patriots that he's not reaching  they might want to look like it's all fun and games and singing kumbaya but it's not something is off with this team there's no question about that in fact to your point the one thing i will say that's a little surprise you said how come the ones yelling how come no one's upset in fact bella check this year has behaved let's to bring up a picture really quick here i don't know what he was thinking at this moment after the game when he's going up the you know he's certainly not congratulating mike tomlin what's he doing well thought when i don't know what half i think so i'm not sure but you know the one thing is and i guess even like i guess every friday bill does a press conference with the local media and on friday a bill was kind of smiling and upbeat i guess the pictures had a really good week of practice and and in fact you know bill this year has cracked a few since he came here that's true bell a check always got what belichick want to because that was the deal when he came in if i'm going to have to let me buy the groceries i'm going to have to go shopping it's money that you bring parcels up here because i'm wondering if this was playing out with finish a career in a patriots uniform i also though it i wasn't i was not saying that they should just move on from garage below i wanted to make it work somehow we kept them both and either brady was going to get knocked out by an injury or he was going to decide to retire on his own good but there are that you might be right but i still don't want to i you know brady to me is the exception and i understand where the crafts are coming from because everything the crafts have you know everything the patriots have done as an organization the brady you just you can't just put him he finds out in the newspaper or the e s p n or n f l network yeah it's like you talk to him say dude this is what we're doing like you know and you have that conversation dad having to the son saying ok this what want to do but but i thought you had but you would you have a corrupt low in three number ones or tom brady for a year or two with a chance you know again i was hoping they were going to maybe take one more run maybe have another chance i don't know where he would have gone to san francisco or maybe i want to but regardless i just for me i just loved it and for my head i think i would have done it because you got to get to number ones easily for him they could have gotten more the nd or and quarterback all the way through but at the same time look at all great and wonderful and years from now in the history books now look beautiful but you know what it doesn't change the fact that they've got all day to do anything about it and they're playing stupid uncharacteristic completions you know get in the red zone and try to get a touch and if not kick a field goal great and that that's how almost every center was for ten series a game for sixteen games a year for eighteen years that's really how it was he's you know he's just dismissed he's over thrown on guys i mean again those last four throws in the steelers game certainly even before they took the sack and at the end of the half in miami you know there was a there was a death row we had hogan wide open in the back of the end zone overthrew him so yeah i mean know on t v in radio there you go well you know don't you know in the internet but you know the all i'm saying is to me there's a lot of reasons why the patriots could easily yes they have really struggled on the road this year and you know the specially the last two