so big surprise music purchases down as far as cd sales physical cd sales shocking are you meaning to tell me that the vinyl is already at music available everywhere on the internet impacted the selling apparently a lot streaming is up over the course of a lot of stories about artist not making lots of money off of streaming so that's a big change from when the record companies were just forty over piles of money needle and it's it's a lot of it's crazy it's crazy love is crazy the hobby is you know i don't want to listen to my hobbies they're crazy they're crazy good eccentric silly but even beyond the physical stuff i mean are people going to actually be had i mean here to start to wonder if things are digital is there going to be any purpose to actually owning i think we've talked about this kind of briefly in other episodes but  going to twenty fifty here but you know or are things like netflix like or even just renting things and going there's there's too much on certain i think with all the right fighting and all the other stuff i mean you know you want you can be watching a show on netflix and have to end up as less than on january fourteenth it goes away sorry you know i mean i know the battle i had to start preparing my daughter that her episode of jacob the neverland pirate going off on d i go downstairs it seems like a simpler fix for me to buy a new d v d player for blu ray player or blu ray four k if you like a simpler fix to buy a new player then worry about the rights of media from some other  but i like the physical copy i like knowing i have it and i'm like a collector for example so we all kind of meet two levels of problems well and my own thing too with this the story of course i mean it's not unexpected that that the music sales are down but i'm surprised by that i'm surprised by the negativity on the internet well  but what i find it then you should be the only artist out there making any money taylor swift that should be the news out of touring which just about everybody does to make a nickel now and a couple of very old companies who've purchased or bought back their rights something like beatles and kiss and a few other things pretty much they're at the mercy of a record company to continue promoting them so they don't have that rabid fandom unless they've created it like  swift i mean she was brilliant talk about a person who took the industry by the horns major success and made her contract afterward but outside of her is there anyone even close to that level of control over their own music probably not currently one is interesting nielsen had certified to see these two albums platinum this year for the entire movie used to be you'd have dozens and dozens of them but it was taylor swift and course the frozen soundtrack are the only for it's gotten to be but i i i'm always concerned about people that are excited about me and same with the movie industry that you know eventually we're going to get to the point where people are going to do this independent stuff that's so much better and crowdfunding and stuff but my whole thing is when you eliminate that dream land kind of thing you know new york l a nashville kind of thing or hollywood it's going to cause fewer and fewer people to go after it and to do something and what ends up happening is i think you know the big mainstream stuff is what pays for all the independent stuff and so if you get rid of the giant mainstream stuff and you think you're only going to get this great diversity of independence what's going to happen is when people start see i can't make quite as much money whether it's music or for movies that that then that really fringe stuff starts to go away because people are going to make a little bit of money i got to do something it's guaranteed  and people seem to think that if you get rid of that stuff then suddenly we have this great brosh of the smaller things and i actually think the opposite would would occur in that instance i think you're not to understand your logic but i don't think that's going to happen i don't think you're going to people stopping pursuing their dreams i mean how many idiots go on american idol every day thinking they're the next great thing and they're talentless hack sort of garbage mean but that but i believe that's the result of american idol of creating this environment where you can be a great what i mean by yes you could have a you tube sensation you can have these giant star but i think when you have some kind of almost mythic type world you know area where people are striving to get to you i think is that causes more people to get into it which creates greater diversity i mean i think of it i  pursue other things and not pursue football now is that important that's you know up to that question i don't know but the overall quality talent is going because you have when you have a greater mass to choose from going to have to understand but i don't think you're talking about elimi the buccaneers chiefs the cardinals and the jets they're going on the quality of football going to go down or less people going to pursue it but i don't think so i mean look at something like professional basketball as a whole that has this status associated with it might understand it's a different kind of sport altogether but in the entirety of the draft in basketball you have thirty country guaranteed contracts that year and you have just in a final four competition sixty eight teams of five guys each plus five more people on the bench that are trying to make that dream come true plus every player everywhere in the world in addition so that market is shrunk and shrunk and shrunk and shrunk and you still have a an uncountable number of people who are pursuing that dream knowing it but to playing for pitt is never going to be a professional basketball star never but he still pursuing that dreams and hopes that well maybe i'll end up you know in lithuania our maybe lined up in the european league or a spanish team or something like that making not necessarily millions of dollars thousands of dollars but it's a comfortable living certainly something i want to do more than you know being a grunt somewhere i don't understand your logic but i don't see it getting all the way there so the pendulum will swing not not our way over the way and then come back that enough to box office or something like that but if you get away from making two hundred million dollars movies the dream of all make twenty million dollars because you know what happens to some degree i mean it's tough to say i just think you're going to fewer people go to film school i think if if you're only a means of making money let's say if we eliminate the studios the enters whatever you tube is the only channel with which you could make money or whatever i mean whatever that or just selling you're selling downloads on your website or something like that of of the movie i just think that these more interesting quirky kind of movies would go away because you're trying some form of of a success and you have to work ten times harder i get it like in you example with passable football so there's that i mean the margin of making it is so minuscule but i believe that the fact that that exists remains exists makes a lot more people pursue it than if if the top were would as many people go into it or would somebody who's good at basketball and football say you know i'm going to focus on basketball i don't know that million still exist and this is only twenty five thousand i don't know i mean if i really had a pursuit or dream of it i might mean there are plenty of actors around here and tell a lot of professional football used car salesman around there as well so we always go to those extremes of football talk about the guys that millions of dollars a contractor peyton mannings there are a boatload of more guys who live three to four years in the with a lot of people that are making eighty million dollars no but if you've got some as long as you have someone in the industry is making money to someone like taylor swift or whatever else you're going to have people who are pursuing that dream figure that's me and until you can eliminate that and i don't think that will happen even if it comes down to let's say the fact all the recording industry's go away i don't see that perceive that happening you still have a person like that who can market herself and sell herself and move herself wherever she wants be i can remember hearing stories about and this is you know way back when mc hammer refusing to sign with a major late label because he was making more money selling c d s out of the back of his car just because it was one of those things he had to write his own deal go his own way and what it turned out to be a very short slash nothin but i mean that's a person who was in control of his own destiny for a long period of time and that's you know twenty five years ago totally different animal but someone will still exist when taylor swift finally reaches the top of that mountain there'll be another boy band set of groups or whatever else coming up for people flock to  very little money on it but and i think that not to belabor the point but i think with music taylor swift success kind of proves the point in my eyes that pop music is always kind of the most generalized most bland of music it's always going to have a popularity but my thing is if you if record companies were to go away then all these little fringe on rows of music would would probably start to fade still coming speaking of physical media i know you guys are very very excited  couple interesting stories first of all amazon of course got two golden globes netflix got one the major four major networks no make no golden globes whatsoever in what sense but no actors one done money there's no way andy samberg is the best comedic actor he is not he is not the best part of that show but didn't he win the award she oh i thought he and the show i don't think he won but i mean i don't think he won but i d i think it is over and i can't wait to watch it can warring vomit a lot i mean i don't think this is quite another one of those years where there's nothing in the oscars i want to watch a lot of stuff it's always interesting because the globes as comedy musical i think you've got a wider category now you can do more you know charged stuff networks are still having having to play conservatively in modern family is as out of the box as we can get and even that is a little i mean that which flush the show it's funny funny show modern family has to be a better overall show than brooklyn my night would be funnier but modern family has to be a better show i think it just was tired i think well that's ok just to be a better show i mean i don't know but i watch it i'm going to try michael keaton gives out a shout out to pittsburgh and just lights up the world by bergman's with us i read a critique of his speech it was saying how he was vying for that found it locally let me know i would go see that i mean i think it's perfect i think it's i think it is his vehicle to win i don't know if we're ready to give him that award i'm glad he got the golden globe  hollywood and the industry not just me but everything as a whole plus that will experiment with the sort of one take attempt so you've got a lot of things working in its favor plus it's getting a lot of good but boy who does another one of those things totally different remember when he did a lot of movies back in the late eighty's early ninety's that were real attempts to earn that sort of credibility that he didn't want to being so clean and sober his and he did the one dying of cancer where he did