well we could open the meeting of the july eighth select board twelve o four and we always start with public to be heard but there is no public to be heard so we will move in i would take a motion to go into executive session the second all those in favor represent we do filmmakers photographers heroes musicians also portraits just all sort of anything that people sometimes come to us and say hey look i do this kind of work would you be interested in having us be part of your flight say yeah so you on line or yeah we have a web site black like like the dot com where you can see work from artists as well as contact us if you're something like a business who wants to you know collective you can learn more about it steer roast so you can purchase your tickets there which are twenty dollars and you can find out more about parking  basically going to put out the r f p and i have two ways of thinking about it want i want to bid on the entire project and i was also thinking that i might possibly do the condos in the open land myself it's really going to be a review of someone coming in and also doing into interior inspections if you look at the sales reports that i carry with me all over the place it is all over the place and i just highlighted color upstairs percent now and again the state looks at three years worth of sales so the number that we're working with now in terms of where our values are according to the state are ninety nine point nine hundred seven percent so why would we do right on the part of what you're looking at is the reason why we do not yet to when people sell generally speaking that's when they fix their house up or they put in the new bathroom or they do yeah you know get their house up to snuff to get a higher value that isn't always the case but if you look at some of these and above the ratio i have is in relation to the assessed value in other words it's assessed for hundred percent of the first one the second one eighty two percent so that one's short right and then you know so going down i'd like to look at them that way that percentage that way so the question is has this person or that person made major changes finished off their basement which they have no need to get a building permit for added a garage that we don't know because they're on the end of a dirt road so basically it's important that this much time has gone by that we just i couldn't i couldn't recognize it they did out a two car garage they had no permit for in several of things big front porch so i then tell john john then goes out john then makes them get a permit there's no particular fine it's just the point and this is what you're looking at that's telling us that that there is nothing static about property value it can decrease in value it can increase in value and so on so forth so the state says we're almost virtually one hundred percent i look at a tighter group like these are just from april first and we're more quote we're more closely around ninety four percent say ninety three ninety four percent so we are having so you're only going to values in other words have come back around and so you're only going to look at properties and so no no no no no we're looking to look at all properties because that was the next point i was going to make it's illegal for me to say oh well this property although i do however if there's a huge discrepancy i go when i drive by and physically look at the exterior property and i have count and i have such a scene where there are where i again i can't identify it from the picture that i have because the changes were so great i make adjustments i send out a notice on a change but it's illegal for me to go down just because of these numbers the statistics the percentages and say well you sold and you're not one hundred percent you sold and it's illegal to do it it's called still chasing because someone so sold their house but someone so over there didn't they both done the same thing they just happened to be selling so i'm bringing them up but i'm not bringing them up so the whole you see what i'm saying oh yes people are getting caught just because you sold the house but people who didn't sell are not quote i don't want to say getting caught but aren't being recognized so that's why everyone has to be seen because this is a reflection of changes in the whole i mean you know this just  anywhere isn't that they're not home or you know because you're trying to do an interview well we attempt to follow up and call and pursue and if they don't let us and we do have to do our best and of civil authority love them right right so are the first love or the burden of proof is always on them right right so during the reappraisal they can choose not to let you in but then if they're not happy with the value that is placed on their property and they appeal it in the house you've seen them all because that isn't true i've i've been a million times surprised but for the most part i mean for example and there are certain developments or certain areas you can go in and you know you have a pretty good idea that if this is a one story ranch in a neighborhood branch and i didn't get in this house and i have we have you know very good historical records also that we go by that you do your math we  not as dramatic in terms of saying oh you know we're eighty percent of value which would trigger the state would then say oh you have to do one it's just time march is on there just a lot of changes that should be well you don't really want to go down that bit is better than oh my god all right the other thing we're going to do is implement the tax my values which and number of instances are different then the values that we have and then words are parts of maps that we  use for example of the planning and zoning department or doing something big they come up with that they have they use values that are oftentimes presented with maps and we keep our maps updated every year but so that we're all working on this with the same numbers and same values on the same property we're going to implement and the grassroots g i s who who are the folks have been doing are mappings once we institute those values will hold appeals so in other words if someone is if it says someone's property says they have eighty acres but the parcel maps say they have eighty eight and we've got eighty eight will notify them if they have an issue they'll come in and so that way again our maps and our resources get better folks may have surveys that we don't have one file so that we're going to probably implement first and do that this year and also possibly i might actually even just do the condos this year too and bring them because they are as a group significantly lower than residential properties and if a group a class of properties is less than twenty five percent of the whole in the town we can have this data online so folks can access it online wow we have the ability now i'm just not happy with the way i'm not it's a work in progress and hopefully it'll be where i want to be by the time we're done this so be online and and there are deadlines and people there so i mean then sometimes for years because headaches for us and there's a penalty that this board adopted years ago for  g the declaration and that's been in place for years there's a little confusion over who hears the appeal of that penalty and it's because it's a money issue it's not really appropriate for the a listers and that's not really kind of a very having to be s and don't and then and all committees and commissions now have to have it posted on the web cam the second five days your draft anybody has any relationship to the town based on the new open meeting and kim can't make it which is so i don't know finding commission meetings are routinely televised but we should because this is you know so many people attended all those forums and if you  experience i mean so many people participated in the planning palooza and because it was the most public attended event we've ever done for and so the presentation of the farm based code for that  yeah it's good that we did this because with stuff starting to be rumors we we need to clear just for you do you have any other