thank you cable access good evening everybody welcome to fox bros board of selectmen today is january twenty sixth we have a two part of what it's like i mean the first part is going to end from six thirty to seven to go into executive session three purposes to approve the executive session meeting minutes from january twelfth to review the final edits on the police contract and then to discuss the fire station real property a discussion of real property regarding the sale of the auction of the fire station and then we're going to go reopen into open session and briefly i'll go over them once we come back but we're going to be talking about hillary appointing gary white house  the planning board what we did last time but it was a clerical error issue so we're going to redo that again we have visitors coming in to talk to about foxborough clean up we're going to be discussing the community aggregation group purchase of electricity for the town  if the executive session goes well please contract we will vote on that in open session we're going to have a discussion on the heroin opioid epidemic going to massachusetts and then we're going to wrap it up with a discussion on the town warrant that's coming up on february twenty third and review of the constable policy and appoint the actual constables and then wrap it up at a time in your updates so if we can have a vote to go into executive session all those in favor which in kerry's five zero john yes yes yes yes david yes jenny and i say yes so we'll see what seven o'clock thank you frank cable access good evening everybody welcome back to our january twenty sixth two thousand and sixteen order selectman meeting for those that you turned in that tune in at six thirty we went into executive session we just came out in the executive session was not completed so it will continue to the end of the meeting so the that also shows up in our open meeting later on after seven and we can vote on that to ratify that if you so choose in the third item is the fire station discussion on real property which we did not get into did other time in our executive session so after the regular session go back into executive session so the items on tonight's agenda we have citizens input as we always do followed by selections update we invited the planning board back for the let's call it the of the appointment of gary white house to the planning board and i described it as a clerical issue is actually a procedural issue that we had last time the board voted even though both boards were open but to do it right both boards have to vote  bernie lynch of the colonial power group to discuss the community aggregation group purchase of electricity and what that means is there's a benefit to buying electricity through the community in bulk so we're going to explore that option heroin epidemic going through massachusetts and beyond at eight ten we're going to review the town warrant articles we've been having that at every one of our meetings and tonight we're going to sign it so we can finalize it advisory committee is wrapping their efforts up as well so we will just we will post it on the on the website form is what we corrected yeah over it and just so you know if you want to go on the web site has been posted for a while but this one we post w know at age twenty it's a continuation of a previous item that we had to approve the constable's the past meeting we approved the policy and tonight we're going to actually prove the actual constable other republican or thinks of any other off you're also not not you're also going to be voting on your republic at the town committees the democratic town committee and the republican tell  just briefly i wanted to say two things one in linda washington always says that while the foxboro leaves blue and gold for a town sports but i think this weekend we all believed led the patriots colors so so phenomenal reason i didn't turn out the way that i think the just about everybody hoped for in foxboro but very proud of the season and it done good by us and appreciate the effort this year by the patriots on a related note i've wanted to express my gratitude to to bill and to to debbie and to marsha from our staff last week was a tough week dealing with a residence issue up of one of our residents issues that was a medical issue and also the board where i know i was called to my house and emailed and i'm sure you have that you guys handle yourself professionally from the town's perspective that special law considerations and shout out to the police and fire they took a hit an unfair hit by the sports media and the outside of town media not not the local media where they didn't get the answer that they wanted and it went in a direction and it was a shame because we hold our police and fire in high regard and our chief and all three of them took the high road and i would say the hardest thing being us like when is not saying stuff rather than saying stuff and we all kept them all shots in the mouth collectively shot and measure the age of a road and how to measure the thickness of pavement and one of the one of the greatest lines that the fellow who was speaking mentioned as he was from the beverly beverly was they calculate they have bought a billion dollars worth of assets in the roads and you think of a billion dollars then use about we really should take care of it in his program i guess the roads up there are pretty bad but his his program was to go through evaluate him actually make pictures of the roads and monitor their progress as they age and i measure the depth of it it's become a real science so from that perspective we're sitting there were rather dry topic it was almost on the edge a fascinating one of the topic that we would listen to and this is what the  meyer which is our insurance company they had a speaker the talked about the future of electric cars and it was a bit of a futuristic a bit of a fantastic discussion on something that we all saw it's kind of  coming eventual way and time horizons were about fifteen years and he said now you really start to need preparing within five years for the impact the driverless cars might have on municipalities from excise tax since from we're unsure on roads from can people drive these without a driver's license there's all these different questions that need to be answered before these you know come to our community so he went on for it was actually a good talks but only five minutes and it was something to think about the technology is going to begin to show up on our streets and right now we're probably all prepared to deal with  buildings the whole process from start to finish the ivy league come up with an idea are you when the people over you start the land but was fascinating is as they were talking i was thinking that's what yeah that's what our building committee said yeah that's right that's what they're talking about and it just goes to show you that we have a very good building committee in this town and i was really really thrilled to realize that really does things the right way we talk to with some selection from another community and they don't even they're just starting a building committee and they're just adding to deal with their buildings that i deteriorating they've had ad h buildings and now they have to do something so they're just beginning the process that we have been doing for the last twenty fifteen twenty s so it was really an interesting seminar and i think that i think that the panel afterwards and told them that but it was very it was very timely because it was something i'm working on right now that was able to actually get some good advice on while working on it back here at home the annual meeting is a good forum for everybody to see it in for select into it to kind of get to know other selected and to know that you're dealing with the same kind of issues across the commonwealth the chance to meet amazing colleagues from from around the state it's a good sharing of information good networking opportunity i know they're not it's not convenient for a body so i understand if you could make it i understand it but but i do encourage everybody that some point to go because i think it's really important you do and it's and send it some point you will bring back something that you've found valuable and i been doing this for a long time and presupposing that we didn't need to take to our double votes i want to apologise to gordon because some and i had a conversation the table about i want to apologize to you guys for taking your time a second time but we appreciate it very well and i did hear you say you we all ignored you so so the next item on the agenda is the discussion of the foxboro clean up day on april thirtieth of two thousand six hundred we've i'd invite it jack you for coming thank you set a date for the fourth and clean up foxboro day i can't believe it's been four but it's been a great event every year it keeps growing but the sooner we can get a date on the calendar the sooner we can send out e mails get  stuff in the newspaper and we just need to get your approval on a date so the date we had discussed between the two of us we looked at the school calendar the town calendar we talked to a j dooley and anthony  and april thirtieth saturday april thirtieth seems to be the most available de janeiro are going to have a perfect date in this community were such a vibrant community doing so many different things but i think that would be a good one the town cleaned up before memorial day remember when it was last year it was maybe the first weekend in may which actually actually coincided with the s a t s so we lost a good portion of our juniors and seniors we have a lot of really active high school students so i mean again they're all really busy but if if we could avoid s a t day which we're trying to it's may seventh this year so we try to push it up a week and then the week after that is the pops concert at the high school again just to remind people the reason that they're asking permission and this this program has evolved over time but because the time wanted to afford the group the protection the insurance because it's on time property it does not cost the town anything it's all volunteers and a lot of the businesses step up to provide the food in the in the equipment and in the vehicles dualie and do you want to take a moment yet you have that in order all of the volunteers will receive a safety t shirt board of health and set up under standards one thing i'd like to clear up last year we received a letter from the selectmen saying that we had to set up a fund at town hall for donations t we had somebody want to donate toward the cost of the trash bags for example they made some money and made paid money to the company that provides the trash bags somebody wanted to be a part of something else they send their donation to the company that already agreed to provide those items so they were able to do what they wanted to do it just reduced the commitment of the company that had volunteered to  prison gay members come and do the cooking and things like that and we get mulch donated and bone tears spread it to just beautiful isom areas so we we don't take in ten cents fancy most is the hundreds of people who can go home that night feeling very very good about how they spent their day and had volunteers who were as young as three and and then in their senior t you guys do a great job you and the a j there with somo but a j and his crew i mean they're unbelievable through yet provide the labor and to pick up all the filled bags and dispose of them but all of the writing of board we have a motion to accept that day for the you like to make a motion that we approve the fox appropriate update for april thirtieth two thousand and sixteen i'll second that emotion made second for the discussion of those in favor motion carries five zero thank you today the process started so for quite some time and it's pretty knowledgeable in assyria he's a former city official city manager him self so he's familiar with how governments work at the local level and understands the process as good as anyone so i thought that would be appropriate to have him come in and explain the have copies of this in their packets by way of introduction to go on from what bill mentioned there's two companies that are listed here colonial power group and mark kappa don't add to my left is the principal with colonial  power my business name i've given my business is community paradigm and i do quite a bit of different public consulting the space specifically geared towards minas palettes do some executive recruitment and some working with boards of selectmen and managers and mayors and so on in different projects but one area that i've become quite interested in myself is that this issue of aggregation actually aggregation goes back just to give you some background in how i sort of got myself into this whole thing aggregation goes back and we'll talk a little bit more about the specifics of it goes back about almost twenty years now where the deregulation of the utility companies occurred very similar to what i think we all remember with the you know maybe i'm the only one who remembers that ma bell ma bell exactly exactly so where you know there was one company that provided telephone service and of course they broke that up through the court orders and all the rest well here in massachusetts back in the one nine hundred ninety s in order to put more competition into the energy and electricity world the the legislature the governor at the time pass legislation that deregulated that basically took the national grid and star with a predecessor companies and said ok you can deliver electricity but for no longer can you actually produce electricity  electricity and transmitted through the lies and that's what we all most of us have in terms of basic service but what it did is it said you can now people can shop around to get different sources of electricity and so there's people going door to door trying to sell electricity to people there's all types of strings are attached to that and it's not necessarily always the deals that have put forward about this legislation also allowed for communities to work as aggregators to buy electricity or  provide for the ability of a can residents of a community to buy electricity from a source other the in the basic service so that you can get better rates or have different options with regards to your electricity not many communities jumped on the bandwagon back then the only one that really did was cape cod cape cod compact went off and they they aggregated in they they're way ahead of the rest of the state really in terms of what they're doing with aggregation but generally speaking no one really did much with aggregation until the past several years as electricity rates have started to go up so as i say i looked at it back when i was tommy on a tour of chelmsford back in the late one nine hundred ninety s decided not to do anything with it i then became city manager of lol back in the mid two thousand and we started to pursue this and look into it and we actually implemented the program in the city of lol and to give you some sense of how much you can save potentially last year when national grid d my successor and the staff that were there then moved forward to put in place a different deal after that six months ran out the reason we did the six month deal was the market didn't look like it was particularly good at that point time with it it could get better and i decided just to do that but i did that i started that in the city of law about three or four years ago i left the city of two years ago and then about eight or nine months ago i ran into  there's some other possibilities you can do with aggregation and we'll just touch upon towards the end so that's me in terms of community paradigm and how i got into this donor is colonial power they are the largest aggregator in the state right the most communities in the state with colonial power there's a couple of other smaller entities that are doing ag one relatively new from outside the state that's become quite active  company with the history of the company with experience in the company with the most communities is a colonial power group and on the second page you can see there is about thirty five communities listed there in fact just as of yesterday two more communities have now joined up with colonial power to do aggregation so out of the entire state more than fifty percent is held by a colonial power and i only say that because it shows the experience that they have so what is community  i basically already explained it it's an optional buying group organized by the municipality or group of units a ballot and that's something i'll perhaps touch upon a little bit later to benefit electric customers came out of the deregulation  go out you would have your consultant colonial power go out get you prices bring it back to you and say ok we're going to now enter into an agreement with x y z energy provider for six months twelve months eighteen months three six months whatever the case may be in that will be made available to the residents and businesses that are currently on the default basic service  in the green program or you can do optional green versus non green power the way the law works is that everybody would be enrolled it's an opt out program  so that's something that's very important to know everyone right now just automatically opt in to the national grid but without having any choice here it's an opt out but you have choice you can either stay in or get out and that's that's one of the benefits of the the aggregation program is it does allow people that choice which is very next slide the benefits of aggregation no longer stuck with the default rates you can get lower rates if it's available through this program generally those rates are lower right now the most recent community that the colonial went off and worked on was holliston holliston just into a new entered into an agreement eight point nine cents a kilowatt hour with green it all being green it all being renewable step by regulation which days it is one of the market is the market is with aggregation the broker and the town get to decide when to go out whether to go with a deal not go with the deal wait for a better deal and then different terms of contract so that you can pretty much guarantee that there are lower rates benefit of community aggregation is control you get to control your own goals the long term rates the higher mix of renewable energies you get to decide how that's or to work leverage obviously you're buying you know someone who's buying is an individual is going to have the same leverage that electric provider or you know muni without having to worry about polls wires cutting trees to branches to make sure they don't fall on the wires and so on and so on you get the benefit of the ra is no penalties for consumers i mentioned those independent people are knocking on doors trying to sign people up generally those deals have some type of penalty if you opt out the agreements the colonial enters into are no penalty well there is always no penalty to opt out in a community where as in those with those other providers is often  a you know this independence is often a fee here that people have to opt out if they want to get out of the program there's no fee attached to that but it isn't to that the deals that are arranged with colonial allow people to opt out at any time opt back in at any time opt out again if they like and there's never any penalties associated with that i know that some other companies are doing aggregation you can opt out at any time but you can never get when you say you can opt in and out we're looking at this as a time line municipal effort with residents being able to go in and out of the community as a whole going in and out the residents are all cars got so thank you as we sign up w the rates somehow drop everywhere else you know the national grid basic rate drops down you just tell you people opt out just ever once calls up colonial and says take me off and they're out in what's left that would that cannot get off the municipal buildings no no in fact we're not so good at zero customers at the end of day that's on it already and you probably won't even be using this program right away you might was we that it was but you might if these rates are lower when you go back into the market you can then opt in or at that point in time so the individual would have to deal with colonial power and i tend to ramble a little bit in my municipal days it's all again it's you've got professional expertise but it's local oversight there's all types of opportunities you can make in this in terms of funding energy management programs supporting renewable energy if you wanted to someone to put a solar facility here this could buy the power and make that possible so if you had a brownfield that you wanted to have develop solar so that some tax revenue could be generated payment of taxes this could help make that happen there's all sorts of public policy opportunities over here but the immediate is you can provide savings to the residents and stability to the residents the steps in the process as bill just mentioned is tom meeting except it's of the aggregation statute first step we can provide you with that language after that's done comes back to the boy they solicit prices and then come back to you again to say do you want to proceed and how do you want to proceed they handle all of the notifications they had a lot of the opt out if occasion is a key part of this as we go through the process  so that people understand the program and we will work with you on that and that's where i have some again some expertise or some experience with that regular issues of concern that we hear from municipalities and i had myself no tax dollars used there's no tax dollars involved with this no burden to the staff all done by colonial to opt out that's provided by law but again it's opt out opt in whatever building remains the same all the maintenance remains the same and the quality electricity believe it or not something that is a question that i think we get from time to time the quality electricity is the same it's electricity so all kidding aside though we've had good and bad and ugly experiences with national grid over the years there is sponsored will for their poles their tree clearing and all that stuff all of that stuff stays the same corrent touched on fettered through this whole process and correct so any most of the touch points that a consumer would have a problem with their bill prom with the meter power going on all of those still state national grid this program addresses the electron running through the wire only the supply piece i have a question on the opt in opt out of the town agrees to do this the town is now opting in for all of its citizens right and you said citizens can then opt in or opt out at any time what if the town a year later decides to totally opt out does everybody opt out or are they know it so if at the end of a contract so what you say the contract ended and at that time the market was actually above what basic service had had it happen in other communities but the town says at that time not interested in it and everyone would automatically be switch kilowatt fee our fee is point zero zero one one mil or a tenth of a penny so just so that everyone is clear if the price of energy was eight cents with our fuel would be eight point one cents a kilowatt  but you're getting a very small percentage of the go to kill what our cost that's exactly correct ok and so how it actually works works is that a person's bill would commit eight point one cents would get sent to national grid all that money gets into national grid takes which there's a distribution side and sends along to the supplier what's theirs and they would send the book our fee on along to us ok not familiar this a few companies out there constellation comes to mind and they usually go over get the best price that you can get whether it's three four five six six batteries and that's where you're going to present to the town right that's exactly correct and it's important to note that we're only buying the commodity we're still subject to the utility for the other fees such as transmission and distribution of your business whatever the load factors policy factors qur'an charges you still beholden to the utility on that it's just the commodity correct that's correct it works right now there's a lot of people that aren't even aware even to this day that there is a supply charge on your bill and that supply charge oftentimes falls to the default rate because a lot of people realize it's there but you can notice that if you if you become aware of that and you actually go to a different or third party supplier you'll see a significant lowering of your bill when you when that when when you switch with a company because those rates as as as bernie correctly pointed out one time those rates were last what six months this will be you're talking twelve months eighteen months thirty six months depending upon where the market is at the time and what they feel is would be a good a good top twenty for us to lock in but  we have the right that we are the good news that we have the right to to have a say in that and to help that process along and we have when anyone who doesn't like it they say well you know i get a break but a record somewhere else they can just opt out and go somewhere else and is no penalty unlike the  contract we opt into the municipal agreement here what happens to that individual contract with the resident so anyone that had a third party supplier would be from the initial mailing so before the program starts everyone on basic service will will receive the mail know you would get a three year deal there's up after one year for the final two years they could enjoy those that town rate ok so from a procedural and a stand has to go through town meeting so the end of that contract we have to go back to town meeting again to process here is there's no there's no thirty b regulation for me to talk to these guys or anyone else for that matter so there's no limitation in terms of who this who the company has to be i've talked to a couple companies about this i know these guys i've  because i've worked with them for a number of years so i know i understand their work i understand that you know they've got a good background so that's that's the only reason why i'm working with them right now but there are a lot of people out there there are like three others i think they do it right now  the opt out opt in opt out provision it's going to opt out you're out of the consultants also require you to go you know i want you to go is a big group and that doesn't necessarily you better rate but it does tie your hands in terms of local control i was talking to another manager from another community today was in that deal and they said we didn't we didn't get to choose how long to go would you choose you know what the how green to be we didn't none of that was in there so from local control i advocate i simply went to a presentation on that with a with a bigger group to see if there was an advantage of doing that and i've learned since then that it's not as nearly as  because you have the numbers but it's really really market driven it really was if you if you think about it no one could be a national great aggregation they have over one hundred some communities it's really a market driven product electricity is a upwards of two million dollars a year just in auto which is the cost and by doing this program it's not exactly the same but it's it's similar to what we're saving anywhere between twenty and twenty five percent a year now i won't go into into a long term contract because interestingly enough electric prices in northeast ohio in the country and it's all related to gas natural gas free up once once they complete the remainder get remaining gas lines that they need so i just be cautious do not look at a three five seven yo yo yo yo get killed at the futures c know it's going to have more to do with capacity and then energy as it as he really get into it and i'm happy to educate you on all the finer details so i'm not asking for the board to do anything with us tonight i want to think bill to look into it but also look at the other providers as well so you know there's a comparison here from the other side made town meeting it's going to happen pretty quick because it's already by january so we're talking figure this all out in contract for the year on july first two thousand and fifteen to june thirtieth two thousand and eighteen in executive session we had really strong winds of a financial director in chief larry sitting with us we asked questions we went over the details from the details before we understand it that the police union has gone through the same process they signed it and what we've been given us is the final final not to say can't make more changes but i think we got to the point where he's an executive session has been worked out and we wanted to bring it into full session to finalize it and if the board so willingly wants to vote make a motion to approve it we can vote on it just pay for the to the towel just pay its half of that in the end will not pay anything more for that benefit but it is a fair benefit in the sense that it actually makes us competitive with other such towns around us now the communities around us who are are paying somewhat types of benefits communities we've added a provision that that recognizes the work of our offices who do feel training by providing them with some minimal cough cough a sation of an hour of overtime for the shifts that they would do work that the particular responsibility  we provide invited some recognition of temporary service and higher grade for offices who work out of their grade temporarily while when there was no further an officer on the shift we provided we believe consist of aggravation on both sides he goes back seven months to july of two thousand and fifteen you know looks ahead to june thirtieth of two thousand and eighteen which i think is important to we have a long standing police of the goals that we've had been discussing it's fair and i also wanted to recognize chief will area as he heads towards your retirement suit probably the last contract that we would have worked through him and with him and it's a great experience and chief i know he's sitting out there and he said it in negative session but thank you for the the time and effort on your career but on this contract as well for any any more discussions before we vote on a contract as a motion was made to approve of the it's the discussion of the opiate heroin epidemic him and if it's ok with the board i just want to kind of give you my thoughts thank you did a letter in the packet which i'll get to in a minute and i know looking out there we have some people that that may want to speak so i'm going to give you some thought so you can go to the board and it will give some time to residences if people want to talk on this issue so this site has been in front of this board several times back in december of two thousand and fourteen we had a is it's a narcotic that's given in an emergency situation to suppress or stop the effects of opiates on the body opiates the next question as well as opiates and i think that was another question heartbeat in people can die in overdose so big picture what's happening across a lot of areas is you start with the painkillers you get at the doctor's or the dentist you get addicted very quickly the addiction stays the prescription and and then you look for means of continuing so a lot of people end up on heroin because it's a lot cheaper it's becoming readily available and they start their lifelong addiction and it starts with the addiction and ends up with tearing families apart and in overdosing and deaths and a lot of situations the reason it's come back in we've brought it back a few times because foxboro it's i think still in the stages it's coming out of it but it's still a topic that people don't want to talk about people don't want to realize it's in the town but it is in foxborough it's in surrounding communities it's in foxborough less than some other places but for sure it's here a lot of people they they may think that they are not affected by it and if you're not  you're very lucky there's some people out there that say you might not know but you are affected because it's still a stigma disease you could have somebody in your family or a close friend and it's hidden very well till till it explodes  but if you're not affected personally or by the drug itself you're certainly going to be affected financially it's going to affect all of our wallets because the state has taken some drastic steps over the last six months seven  months the budget is tremendous right now that they're trying to you know since july august september october november december six months the state has kind of done a one eighty on this and they've put almost thirty million dollars into intervention treatment  recovery and whether it's you know there's a whole slew of it and we passed out of the action plan that the governor came up based on opiate working group and going on for a while so you know we kind of had a group discussion and it is a couple of people from the community there and we're kind of at a crossroads do we play the pointing finger game it's a police issue and they should you know they should step up and do their job or is it a school issue or is it a parent issue and i think i've come to the conclusion over the last year that it's a community issue but it's a community issue that we can't solve and collectively we need to work together to figure out how to do it to try to get in front of this surrounding some surrounding towns away had of us working together already they've got hotlines and they've got activist groups that are meeting monthly foxborough doesn't have that yet in any kind of hit me when you know i had a discussion with the  police officer in the morning and he said basically if you want you want it you go down to the bradleys i'll be honest we did bradley's parking lot we're ninety five it's a crossroads between fall river new bedford and boston and and it's there and routinely getting calls to go there later in the afternoon i talked to somebody else and they said absolutely not have a problem with it it's coming but it's not here yet so i think we're kidding ourselves if it's not here and i think this board is doing a disservice if we don't at least try to bring it forward for discussion again so the letter i put it in the packet basically it's a letter addressed by the board of selectmen and i put my name on it but  i'd like to do is collectively put all of our names on it and i'll read a pretty fleet we know coming from says deer so in so each town and county in massachusetts is addressing the fast moving drug public health crisis differently massachusetts representatives are advancing new legislation to combat the growing public health crisis foxborough is not immune and have various levels of action and understanding of this the foxborough board of selectmen would like to have a broad discussion with department heads our department heads such as the public safety educational social services health and recreation in order to share information and discuss the situation our goal is to gather and then provide useful information to our residents regarding awareness in a direction should they be affected the community with knowledge about this crisis is better equipped to address it over the next few weeks we will be reaching out to our departments as well as our state representatives and area activists that may have useful information to follow this at the prisons at the halfway houses at the sober houses with people that are addicts and if you're out there and you're an addict or you know about it you know exactly what we're talking about if it's new to  you it's going to be a learning curve but i think reaching out to our department heads and having the school departments at the same table that the police department is that the board of health is and everybody here are different perspectives i think will get a lot further sullivan brought it up and i was aware of it but not so it's a but the one thing i did fall through pretty much last year was the model that the city of boston has used and the one thing the first thing they did and i think the best thing i did was they collectively eliminated the state and they said if you come to us we'll help you out and the traffic coming to the police department in the city of kloster has increased traffic and they are helping people out so i think if we take a look at that and maybe models of other communities to say first of all you know what's what's a welcoming hand a welcoming community to this but secondly we need the resources to actually provide the help so there are things that we can do on a local right i think it's all about education and awareness i think there's you know you can say there's a problem is there a problem we don't know if there's a problem but it starts in everybody's home and to get that information out there to the parents to to explain to them that these are the warning signs you do the things you need to work for i think that's the part that's missing you have to start somewhere has to be with education and awareness and then you can start taking the other steps but until you start with education awareness you know people going to bury their heads in the sand and i think we need to start at that one one point one starting point i think that's where the round table discussion would be a benefit and get everybody involved everybody or something the offer i mean this is people in this town that have seen it firsthand and there's people in this in this town that don't have a clue what we're talking about and i think bringing most people together will raise the awareness and we'll be able to you know god forbid if it does become an epidemic having that education awareness will prevent it from proliferating into an epidemic so i think is a great a towns are doing it maybe our town can contact those other towns to see what they're doing you know where it went we get for it once we simply beginning the process once we get a little further in then we can reach out and to see what other times of doing it i actually went to one of those forums in plymouth with a resident here and it was a conglomerate of police and fire and school and public officials get a group discussion with it and i'm saying department heads would necessarily might not be the department head of that is the best person to speak on that topic in that department so i think i want to sit with you and figure out the department plus somebody that's on the ground that understands this they can share their information is that the school board as a starting point you know with the sexual abuse community wants to other groups churches voice killed so are you thinking of including globalization as well that one it's a little different because that we knew what the issue is it's black and white it's the child sexual abuse whether it's foxborough somewhere else we reached out to the churches in the school in the people that are affected some addicks speak i would like to have the people that are family members of addicts saturn joined with this effort to educate us and then after that effort then we'll know the next erection to go i do as dave said i don't i think the so if you haven't been here before we are these are on camera i'm sorry this is i think it is a televised if you could just introduce yourself for the record  towns i was in weymouth last night where they proceeded to tell us that they had something like one hundred in one thousand overdoses with twenty three fatal deaths i showed you the papers i spoke seventeen fatal overdose deaths last year the groups aren't big but people are talking and the more people that talk about it they're going to pass that information and they're going to start talking about it and if the information is available to people they'll pick it up and they can choose whether they want to talk about it or not education is absolutely the starting point if you talk to any adic that's in recovery they will tell you the only way that we're going to stop this epidemic is by educating and you have to educate not only the kids and the teachers but you have to educate the community so you have to get some type of program that's going to go into the schools and address each  elementary middle school and high school your teachers as well as your community and you have to start that somewhere and you know we've been going back and forth for a lot of years from when we tried to start that coalition raft rat no not even raft before that when we started that drug thing years ago and nothing's happening and you know it is going to start costing us a lot more money because it has the change if you have never experience you can go to seven forty four mass out of outside the pass office and it is and dated with active attics and you go inside the path office and you sit in the past office and and you wait and there are kids that are in past office and they're overdosing right there in the past office path's office and they're not and in the bringing them back and sending them to b m c or wherever it's know when i said someone came to the table chris was the first person that came and put herself out there that says we've got a problem and you're good kids and you've and to see that there's been no reaction since last time we had this conversation by the board is upsetting to me and the town i know jim reached out to many departments to come to this meeting tonight i don't see anybody here put the police chief obviously if the schools don't think it's their problem i couldn't disagree with even more i'm shocked that they don't think is this no school committee members addict that's to form a different form of addiction and actually alcoholism is one of the hardest addictions to kick because it's readily available and it's legal so although heroin is not by choice he doesn't do heroin you know they don't wake up and say tail i'm going to you know snuff aaron i'm going to shoot heroin they do it because they're chasing that next big guy and somebody else introduces a to it and it's that next big first time you caught deal with it in many other countries especially in the middle east you lower europe and asia but back to the fact that it's really bad it's not even this bad it's really it's so bad right now i'm nervous all the time for my kids they're going to school i talked to a gentleman i work with dollar falmouth every day his kids in high school too they have been told parties they're going to your cabinets you don't even know about the tak g all your pills are thrown in like a trick or treat candy dish and they're all americans ok and you have frightening what i mean the price how five hundred kids in the gymnasium right now playing basketball from two but this was always my goal to bring this to the board and that's what happened so now it's your turn your community leaders you know what used to board member you don't see it here it's not a trophy we're going to sit here and say ok we're handle the daily business you're the  people whose community elected you to reach out and protect the community that you job so you need to take action right away you need to if you go to your town meeting coming up this spring you need to appropriate money like i talked about six months ago get sixty thousand dollars going to get another member on the board of health which is deals with this all the towns have done it is a go to person that's your first  drug related and now the scrap metal prices gone to the bottom they're going to go up because that's what they always do they all and they scrap the metal off the streets they bring it to local scrap yard if you don't steal that is what the trucks are scrap you and then they go wild and there's no metals gone down from on a thirty five dollars a ton of twenty five so there's no you can you afford the gas to do it anymore and it's like crystal tell exactly twenty up from yeah you know what i have in that chair and then by the time your final is too late it's costing individual families so much money just to try and cope with it never mind their own about having a heroin addict or drug addict in your family i'm not embarrassed by it so why can't this tell rally why the new department heads here where are the schools it's in your schools don't tell me it's not in your schools i government to start looking into if you can solve these major diseases then you can solve this just got to be a pharmaceutical way of going around this is not just rehabilitation is going to be a way today in this world to create a drug they will race the dollars per person the depending on the condition of the patient so if you don't want to take the money now and stop it it's going to bankrupt a whole industry that's next mark i appreciate that  and at some respects it's embarrassing when we don't have a call number we don't have somebody dealing with that when so many communities around so i know a thing you know i'd be more than happy to sit with whoever wants to sit with and discuss what i know about what other towns are doing because that's what i'm doing i'm going around it and other towns so i know it's working in other towns and so so gut we're going to set something up we're go to go in that direction personally as i've been my mind's gone through this over the year i thought it would be a lot easier but if you reach out to larn foresman and agree with what they're saying is they can't arrest themselves or ourselves out of this if you go to the school it's not a school issue entirely because it's a community if you go to the board of health you know everyone has an excuse in a rightful excuse because it's so wide it affects so many different aspects so that's one thing that as a selectman at least we can start by putting those different pieces together in a board in a row and i think we're kidding ourselves because if you don't if you're not dealing with addiction you know this much if you dealing with it you know this much i mean we need the people that know this much to educate us so we can kind of figure this out so that's what we're going to do it and i hate to ask you but i know you came here this big on something you feel comfortable year and a half ago when i worked for this company called aegis science and were toxicology last so what i've learned over the past year as i go across massachusetts i work with suboxone doctor is paying clinics methadone and we provide the service that does the drug testing so when i get a new account i go in there for a month and i'll test in actually one of my ellen back the alan breck works for me and she does a lot of collecting where we're talking to these drug addicts they're just like you and i  educated some of them lawyers neighbors i mean shocking i always thought it was the indigent person that didn't have a job or didn't have family support and it's just not the case so it's very sad and i would love to see the education piece and in our school in these kids i talk to my kids out there thirteen fourteen twelve and eight and we talk about this all the time because i'm coming home and i say there's a twenty year old kid who died like this is real it's so sad so that's really what i would like to i'd like to be a part of that program i think would love to have you know i think you know aaron reached out to me today and i think just because you start on the agenda community and kind of tell us what's going on so we can kind of you know if it's if it's money and resources and manpower you know nobody wants to throw those without knowing where it's going so i write again this is why we always we all have to sit together and i think you know there are in my neighborhood alone there's two kids in their twenty's that are how one acts the other day they were at the end of my driveway having an exchange like this is happening you know a lot of humans are talking about it but it's it's all it's around us  foxborough and it starts really the parents who are the grandparents have extra pills and they're taking them in like you said the pony and they bring in the parties and the kids are popping them in like the parents need there could be no drugs in the house there can be no pills th people aren't throwing them away they're leaving them thinking my kid will never touch and they're not going to go near those and that's the beginning of the addiction is it's all it's prescription drugs that were prescribed to somebody you know in their leftover and so i think that i don't think parents realize you know they're not throwing them out and so there's so much basic information that we can teach them that's not even that in depth you know it's it's really just the general things like make sure you check your cabinets throwing things away and you in the schools like it these kids are so naive they think they they can take a pill and i don't think they realize what that means i mean did did you see the cape cod opioid h b o like i would love for these kids to see that they need to see that these are kids that don't want to be addicted that they're they know their life is over you know to me and they had family support they weren't they parents were at soccer games just like we do like you never think it's going to be your kid but it's that kid that had it all and lost everything you know is out so i would love to be a part of it as it progresses in also photo disclosure i've had parents husband coach my kids on basketball and regulations require formal paperwork if they were a constable in the town of massachusetts attacks would do in we asked all of the applicants to provide proof that if they provided services in foxborough for the last calendar year last  application is actually pretty clear that it says that the basically it's folks who live in the same town with the op that resides there will test that they're good moral character and they're sufficiently residents all they had to do was show that they had people that would attach to their capabilities are living vibrant it will citizens of the city or town where that applicant resides so if they they need five people from city of taunton is a vote for right that didn't happen in a few cases probably clients that have used them in the past and we  might feel awake fail because he hadn't done any work for the community and came in to apply for one of the potential understood but i think the questions it raises if the application requires further the app yet the application requires letters of recommendation from the town you live in and they don't provide that how is that a complete education is that what i hear yeah that's not the question i mean i do understand that we would give first preference to applicants that live in the town of foxborough and secondarily to applicants that lived in close proximity to us all right but this particular fellow was from and he listed references from whitman mansfield plymouth bridgewater and brought them so use that i call in the phone do you mind if i still use use the reference i'm reapplying every three years we have to do in the town of foxborough and they and i think i may have called the town clerk and at one point i asked them i says this is you know and i do the same he office we can approve a contingent that those come in and we hold you hold your application in the bands until that time so if you can bring something tomorrow it will get done tomorrow that makes sense i will do my best to try and i would stuff i work monday through that there is no allowable fee or there's they get a fee but it's not part of what the town would be able to collect on summonses and civil complaints if those are served those would be the type that the town would have access to the fees for those ok so it's not all the work they do it's a limited category and and some of  the applicants provided proof of their bonding and some of them didn't you know didn't do didn't and i thought on the spreadsheet we were going to list at what what tier they are in the in not all the application applicants had that in the and i'm also in fifteen towns and to be totally honest with you i feel neglectful because every application that i fill out and every time it requires residents of that town to support the fact that you're a good moral character including an attorney i'm from holbrook everyone on my list is from fox for why because they're letting you people know that i'm of good moral character and have been and that's the way i've always known it and i feel neglectful on my end for not even looking beyond that because it's which always been done and continues to be done in every single time some little confused so i think so i think that the issue is is whether we're reading here correctly if that's the case because if you're if you made up occasion to this community right it should be reflective of people in this community you current i think so i think you're up cation probably is correct but on the left i'm also sure that if you visit his element what's the likelihood you're going to know listening you know in the back hearing you say that and i realize that you've been in other towns you understand and it's always been the residents of the town those are the people that you have to satisfy including the boy and i believe that to be the case and i've never seen it any differently and when you brought it up and you just brought up about o'keefe he's from holbrooke and it's all foxborough i'm totally confused we we want the support of the foxboro residents to say we're ok to be here yeah and i tru don't care way get your references wrong she had good references but on the regulations that we've just reviewed it says the town where the applicant resides now if we want to change that to just have a blanket are you comfortable with this list i'm not very comfortable the process with the list i did have a conversation with mr kane and i feel the ones that have submitted the documentation myself the assistant town manager reviewed and have some of them have come forward and made payments to the tower for work done the prior year that the town would be on safe ground to make the appointments so when you say the people that have done this that the other thing i did those are the nine people eight excluding yourself ok from behind his side from the paperwork we've got the recommendation of the chief before mr cain leaves and gets all agitated all in one thing i've paid out here the other things for the motion is to prove the nine people on the list in a second did any further discussion my mont i let my bond go sometimes they overlap sometimes maybe i got hired or appointed the first time in june so it started in june and i just kept it going so the bonding company automatically sends me a newborn unless i say hold so what happened here is i actually ran into the timeframe of december and i said hold until i just send you an e mail so i will have my new bond that's how it works it's usually by one of three a basis and usually it's five thousand dollars and it's fifty dollars for the three years that's a foundation to by which we have constables that we who that we know and that have taken the process seriously so no no fats we are when you say you're all perfectly fine people it's just that we're trying to get the process is our first time out of the gate that we're trying to get it right and if we get things that honestly came in without much effort and we did ask for specific things in the package and i think it was and we wanted to actually g so if you ask for specific things in a package of applications and you don't get them but you wouldn't have them show up because of the way the bonding works the point after you get a planetary it's a gift might be if i was real currently the war we're going to put more information out for folks as well on the other articles but because it's the biggest item on the on the war we want to make sure that nobody understands the factual information that we have we've gone through we put this together i sent it out to the board if the board we're going to do it can i do to it's something we're going to start doing on a regular basis for every every war so that the folks there understand what's what's being acted on a lot of times misinformation gets distributed so i want to make sure that the right information gets in a hands and forth every single month they made to to go over all the various safety concerns of the town and all the agencies last reports making sure that we make adjustments along the way we clearly set the high concepts we met with some representatives from the state to see how we might make that happen and to see how we can further and further encourage the kind of well that would like to see a long we want to look at the infrastructure needs and then develop all that and  again we'll be talking later on tonight about the the a fire station situation and see what we can do to try for that process along as well and i think that's all i had for tonight i just wanted to foxborough in fact they are the one company is going to be developing the solar field down in elm street and at the old man felt that that construction is expected to start on february twenty ninth for the so for the elm street postle and later this year for  the for the landfill site they are with it would waive their project work as if the town has credits for fifty percent of the of the solar energy that's being that's being developed there the other fifty percent is is that they're actually offering that to residents within the  it's legitimate i want people to know that we we know this company they have been working with us has been some questions in the media as to who's people but they are they are people that we work with just want to clarify that again finally  circulated a lot about our insurance program but in the case of where our health insurance rates are going over the next year indication where insurance rates in general are going over the next year general insurance are going to go up about three point one percent overall that which includes workers comp workers comp is actually going up pyar but journal property casualty is going down his going down so therefore there's an offset there and yet you know myers actually will be offering a three percent credit if we pay on pay in the that we're hoping that will be on the lower end of that and since hopefully we get we don't have we wanted to the for the cost in that area and it was good to hear that the governor governor baker and his administration indicated  they'll be out with house one tomorrow house one of those two i'm not really sure which one it is going to be this year but that's is for us proposal for the book post budget he indicated at the meeting that he was simple posing a four point three percent increase in local aid which will be a very big plus for us of that works and then the the big the big question in our mind is then what's going to be the the charge the charge on the other side of that equation and how that impacts on that and so what's a net increase to us in terms of overall  state so i keep a close eye on that the process is in this very early stages we're finishing up budget hearings right now we're before the ad hom in terms of getting that process going we should be done budget hearings probably within the second week of fed at this point and just remind everyone that we are going to be open because in the tommy emmanuel tommy warren february twelfth so if you have issues that you want to get before us we need to get get those things finalized and put none of those in favor carries five zero with two board why very or make a motion really except the gift donation in the amount of eight hundred ten dollars to purchase reno passes to roger williams park zoo and museum of science from friends of the bo february seventeenth two thousand and sixteen from three thirty p m to five thirty p m for top client event in their gate house with rain dative two twenty four sixteen we should meet in second the  consul situation there were there any other conditional approvals besides the bonding or did you end up sticking that people need to get the taunton registered laundy just the body ok that's what i figured but i just want to double check that that was the only thing because in there was a number so i'm going to recuse myself from the fire station discussions only because a i ran from the owner and have a contract with them so i think we'll go into executive session but we will do a