organization there's an r f p that will be going out so as far as the specifics of who's going to be doing it i'm not sure yet but we're going to identify every i'm licensed dog in the  city using a calculator that's on the website of the american veterinary in association the estimate is that we have fifteen thousand dogs in the city of currently we license a little under fourteen hundred or one hundred fifteen hundred dogs rather so we're losing a little bit of money there every city or town that has done a dog numbers from the capital district i've got numbers from interviews that i've done with various towns of town of town are there for example population seventy thousand so they're within five or six thousand people of us their licenses jump to twenty five hundred the basically the way the program would work as i see it we would when we identify somebody that has been licensed or if we get a letter that ten dollars would then go to pay for the for the census so basically the twenty five thousand actually twenty two thousand dollars would be a wash with the revenue from under ten thousand people they license between six and six thousand dogs here with a couple of part time people that go around in the summer and do their census so it's not a real effective census but even with that they're getting maybe program and tell them that you know we're going to be knocking on doors effective such and such a day during that sixty days i would expect a spike in in people licensing their dogs anybody that is going to be conducting the census for us would have to go through a couple of hours of training with the police the bar non confrontational training which i would think basically is if somebody turns you double our licenses in one year maybe triple in the long run over maybe a three or four year period i would think without any problem we would be up to a census here i've got some old loose deliberately but still there's going to be a small percentage of those dogs that would be loved household pets that just early on able to be identified and he got twenty five thousand dollars ideally what i would like to do is contact rescue agencies and have them use it as a source of funding and every household is not going to be contracted one sure and that's the idea the idea is to get out of just a couple questions to and chuck you may not know the answer to this but there is there any responsibility for the you know control officers that we play right now to do any of this when they see somebody and we get calls asking if there was a license at one two three eighty six st if license one two three four is still current so they're out there doing that anyway and then vehicle and when they're not chasing stranger worked out they're knocking on doors chasing goes away since it's their job which helps for retention but it doesn't really do a lot or  if it been thought about because it might be a little onerous on some people who are working all day long to stand and i know you and i talked about this little bit chalk on the clerk's hours of office of the clerk at some point to new saturdays he set up such that we paid her new license to speak so that way if the company goes out and gets three likes and they only have thirty bucks for the food and you know more they go out and get a million licenses or decision this made that the recently revenue for a lot of the licenses would more right than war continuation that's another choice that might be made later down the road but i guess for me the bottom line is generally we support chuck moving ahead with this because i think if you know if we don't it's no skin point in his wasting time a percentage basis or should you know should the city look after me on a percentage basis on if we can find another way to finance this because again i mean that money was taken on the budget so someone just please tell me where it's going to come from reason council so that the twenty five thousand dollars was for the dog or numeration when only twenty two was the usual three thousand dollars was taken out of  department as well as the financing mechanism for that what the plan between then and now is that the firm m l c who has handled this potential financing heard with a particular bank that was the low bidder and the city that went through the process of going through credit checks and it and it came to a conclusion that  move forward to go through the credit check process to see if indeed this will come to fruition a credit check process probably takes about seven to ten days a proposal is for an interest rate of two point nine nine for four years terms are exactly the same as what you approved back in december with the exception of the interest rate we would basically when you prove it you had approved life of the loan and this lease purchase was approved in part of the two thousand and thirteen budget and funds exist to support either of those payment schedules so  heart month february that right on favre i think the second item deals with the creation of the energy advisory board a while back we had legislation and ready to improve it i'm going to make this a formal board and i think some people had consigns like we had questions about the mission and things like that and it sort of got lost in the sh so trying to bring this back and not see if we can we can move forward with this i have been in contact with dana you've got copies of e mails from people who are currently serving on the  all right and then the last item again was something that we had discussed some time ago and then it sort of got lost in our ways the abandonment of oregon avenue  day or we'll chase it down we only get a ticket or two years old and older they'll chase with it we want to charge for what they collect a report was every day in terms of what they've collected from us the city can cancel the contract at any time with