what is it about fed ex you think it is wrong that they were alive it's second case did not address any of that our case address and for an aerial opportunity question that's that's the only extent to which our fed ex was overturning into fed exports one fortunately the first one which we overturned and then the second one which we overcome i think that if the problem with that case that we found was not only highly complex negotiations what i guess is as a practical matter at stake here and i'm thinking i really really of just adjacent areas of  is regarded as a state agency that it could be sued under ninety three for most of the things that people sue still agencies and state officials under nineteen something treated as a case what about the problem race by opposing counsel that they're only paid for two weeks and only four it's an hour at a time right  is not in the same business sense to me it's kind of going to the same question and that factor here i take it that mr gaston says you know plays in the business of standard setting the officials are in the business of officiating take that proposition they were ultimately held to be independent contractors cracked or they couldn't wear u p s labels on their clothes or on their cars they couldn't drive a car that didn't  have a fed ex label on the car they had to take the label on and if they wanted to be up to something else they would then take it off they i assume i can't remember the case exactly although i did participate in that pretty heavily i believe they had to wear something that indicated they were fat x that was for the in a way for the security of the customers even though they were from independent contractors so the clothing alone can't be the answer  just to go on the next page thirty one do you know of any that have jobs or careers beyond officiating or across yes absolutely you know for fifteen minutes before i begin if you hire me to do i well as you know write it do special things that make me i want popular coach to be hired and they can't substitute someone else to be employed that's required by the by the constitution that's right which requires you so ceasing to adopt certain things perspective the board sure that the membership of its board of directors include the following which is one member representing school boards of directors who is an elected member of a think every member is between twenty and twenty four but those are the one where they're directly paid right those are ones where the schools are paying how many are where they have directly paid well i think those are just seems unusual and i'm just really asking whether it is unusual that and for the vast bulk of the season the payment comes from the schools for i understand the point but i'm just asking as a fact question there are others where for either of these others that you're talking about baseball football it's at or are they paid by the school or are they paid by the association itself or any other example that you wanted to yeah i believe in itself because of the way it begin if you wouldn't mind by addressing that those pages or one of the other pages you have from the going to panix on the question of whether they can whether they actually do work outside of the cross came yes we they could officiat