pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all like lastly there was a request from the audience to bring up the village highway stock in town highway tax discussion i would have no problem doing that i would recommend that you let the interviewees and presenters go first as we typically do that with guests before getting into the business but i see no problem with moving item six i who after sixty the board amenable to that thank you  forward on items that are not on tonight's agenda is there anyone here tonight wishing to speak here in public to be heard margaret if you could just state your name for the record place with energy saving my street lights street lights street i sorry we should have reduced our bill instead of having it go up so i'm just curious to get a little more information  bill specifically there's not a meter on the house right there was a mansehra i forget the details how do you know if it was something about green mountain power has it's kind of a set fee regardless of how much energy i forget the details m and he's a subcontractor for my small company and having the conservation trust when he has nothing do with my my company but i just want to make sure the board's ok by stay have taken a lot of advantage of the recreation opportunities that are in the town as well the other towns i'm a big proponent of having those kind of opportunities for citizens and now that i'm retired and have some time not quite so crazy it occurred to me as a way to get involved in something that i care about deeply and also a way to contribute to the community so that's my interest and in the comm i think i'm pretty good analytical tasks i think i'm pretty good listener and so the chance to contribute listen to what people want to help make things happen for the town is something i'd really like to be involved in thank you all so i'll open up to the board for any questions  not a giver so far but yes and so you've been up a lot on all nearly a thirty year resident now yes you've seen the village in the town change over those years what do you see the role of the community and some of the places and the need the get just as a kind of point of interest i've actually lived their lives in the town for a number of years and then i've also lived in the village so i've actually lived in both communities i think one thing that i see that i would like to have some impact on is the use of the the trees caves the urban landscape that we have i think as we've seen the concentration of development particularly in the center which i think is a good thing i like to see things compact but also we have to make sure that the spaces are inviting it's not just concrete and i think that tends to happen unless you try to do something about it  i've watched indian brought kind of go from a i don't want to say no rules but a pretty free open do whatever you want to have to get some control over that space and i think that overall it's been a good thing i think it provides access for the people who are really interested in it and then they watch the saxon hill project kind of a little bit from afar and i know there's a lot of work to do there i think that's a great opportunity for the town to get some more recreation space anything else ok so we'll possibly do this in open session it's the board comfortable with open session ok so what's the board committee and dave i'd like to invite you up and if you could help me with your last name before but you're howard howard ok great also thank you for wanting to volunteer in our community so similar essex junction on pearl street for about two and a half years then we moved to south burlington and then we moved back to six junction right off of quarter right we've been there almost two and a half years again we have a lot of friends in the neighborhood and you know it was a awesome neighborhood to move into we were really excited to make the move to have a house and you know start our lives we have a sixteen month old son  actually just took his first steps last night so that was pretty awesome gradually if you have we're pretty excited and our neighbor abby who was a member of the committee she just left i think i don't think she's moved to michigan yet but they're getting really close to making a move ran into her a couple of months ago she was talking to me about the committee and asked if i was interested and she that was when she let me know that she was moving in and there was a potential opening on the so got to meet a lot of the committee members got to learn more about what the committee does and you know based on what the committee it works on and what they pride themselves on and that the efforts that they do to find efficiency and helping they commit are helping the essex and essex junction be more efficient and implementing more solar and things like that my wife and i have them embrace that lifestyle i guess i would call it we have solar panels i drive an electric hybrid car so i mean the values that the committee has i feel like i have the same values i think of the same things as just as important to my son's future as future of everybody else being part of the committee and participating in contributing felt like a pretty solid fit and i hope that i can contribute to the committee  make connections with residents in essex and x and essex junction for future you know to advertise and promote future events like the bottom up button up vermont initiative there are a lot of other events going on  d in the community to help promote solar we companies in the area so hoping to raise awareness with the residents to let them know what the committee is  doing seeing if there are opportunities to you know have them sign up for things like but not the money doing those free audits learning how to be more efficient learning about opportunities with solar and all that so i hope to be able to i guess start helping with creating the bridge between the residents at work and what the community is doing what else do  buy an electric car fusion electric hybrid it was it was nice i liked it but one hundred clarity is it drives much better so the features on it are space age it feels like compared to what i was driving which is pretty item of business which is a presentation from will more and of the six rescue welcome we're just talking about you were earlier today about the  e and having attended which is great and we utilize that opportunity to bring our organization to your table and to let you know who about us so just very quickly as express you has served  twenty three hundred requests for service per year ninety percent of our staff is volunteers who contribute about twenty nine thousand volunteer hours per year that's about five hundred little more than five hundred a week through forty one positions that we staff over the course a week our service is staffed twenty four hours a day through two different operational periods and as i said ninety percent of the people doing that are volunteers six we have six paid employees our peak loading time which is begins to increase around six am and peaks around two o'clock in the afternoon and then it's a gradual decline now to about ten o'clock at night so we now staff a second  between nine o'clock in the morning and five o'clock in the evening monday through friday will sustain that for a period of time before we transition to staffing a second hand ones for probably a greater or probably our first step will be to go to twelve hours and then after that will probably be upwards of twenty four depending on how the increases in requests for service we receive continue to do so or annual budgets about eight hundred eighty thousand dollars of which your contribution is i believe eight point six percent the agreed upon municipal subsidy which is a per capita rate is three dollars and eighty seven cents which a survey that was conducted statewide of services that specifically looked at municipal subsidies of those who responded the serve the survey yours was third from the bottom as far as the rate so i can assure you that you are efficiencies in financial management in our efficiencies in cost recovery through billing of  federal state and private payers we do our very best to recover what funds we can that are available to us before we go toward useful partner still requests or miscible subsidies so three dollars ninety seven cents i can share you're getting a fantastic deal the highest responded in survey was sixty four dollars per person so i think you're getting at i think we are serving you very well from that standpoint so there's a lot i could say in that week i spent well over an hour talking with your members of the board this past fall but what questions of yours can can answer i could go in a lot of different directions and talk about wire service costs what it does but so much of what you're paying for is the cost of preparedness essex's very fortunate to have a paramedic license transport service that's based in your community our average response time is five minutes and twenty four seconds to anywhere in essex and you know so what questions can i answer of yours we're very fortunate to have your services are going to absolutely one of the courses it came up during the the the budget discussion was the that assessment three eighty seven capita and we know that as your needs arise for for servicing calls that you're going to need more another ambulance and it is your are your capital needs already in that three eighty seven or would we be looking at a step function you know increase to pay for capital as of right now yes three dollars three dollars and he said instance does account for our capital savings as well to purchase future  equipment you know we have a capital plan in place that identifies cardiac monitors things like that which are our big capital expenses as to when we will be purchasing those next as more likely i think the biggest impact on future adjustments to the per capita rate are going to be more to do with staffing we essex rescue is an anomaly statewide when it comes to our ability to assessment of there you missed him and one of the criticisms of that system is that it's over a line on volunteers so the impact that i see as the second director is and i've seen this with other services is that called as as call volume increases you begin to over it's over tax on a volunteer right so if i don't volunteer who works in night shift they go to work all day and they're right at our station by five forty five and then they're on for a twelve hour operational pure overnight so they come off duty at five forty five in the morning and then they have to go to work the next day and i will routinely come into work in the morning to find out that the crew has been up all night or they've you know got to bed about four thirty in the morning so at some point we will hit that critical mass where th just not a sustainable model for volunteers any longer but i will say and we work very hard to do this we we do everything we can to take advantage of those volunteers who are available to us  you from the colleagues that i speak to around the state no one has that problem that i do so so when you so yes the capital pieces accounted for currently i don't see big shifts in the volume of equipment that we currently have where i forecast the biggest change in our budget is going to be staffing absolutely but i also don't think want to steep trajectory i think it's more shallow i mean we do see development and most that develop prepared for so and you know we do our very best to recover every dollar of experience for the payers that we have available to us but as you know you know medicare medicaid to their best to pay as little as possible of the insurance the impact of new development that we're building in the village and the town for seniors multifamily housing bread how that impacts your services absolutely so anytime we see housing developments we are going to see an increase in calls for him so we know that private residences are the number one type of location classification who relies upon our service when we see high density housing like a senior living facility we know that is going to have an impact that we will know i would hope that as as the local governing boards consider planning that they also recognize that is going to have a direct impact on a such as essential services such as you  this you know again when i talk about the impact that has on the volunteer and their ability to you know conduct the normal business we know that as we see more develop within the community that has a direct relationship to the number of requests for service we receive  and at some point that requests for service will i think the wave will overcome the ability of the volunteer to meet the need and will have to  said from say senior housing right is there another type of housing that tends to generate more calls any type of high density housing you know which i don't you know is senior housing i can tell you so we have looked at our call volume of her entire service area and we've taken the data and we've produced with these call the  facilities so we know that you know if it's one hundred unit ceiling facility is going to come in we know that's going to be an epicenter for us other types it's not so much the private single family homes you know again it's going to be ninety nine year lease one hundred year flood plane do so we have been since last july looking at our facility defining what our current needs are what we think our future needs are going to be in the next forty years and then making and then trying to decide if there is the right solution for us we do have some concerns about our current location as we're in a flood plain and that can have a direct impact on our ability to respond in cases like the hurricane irene which  different effect on the state we have never had our facility flooded but it's come up into the parking lot so starting this past july we start a building committee we've done a market assessment of real estate that's available we would like to stay within the essex community as far as our or central hub looking commercial real estate that's available in the areas that we would like to be positioned and a lot of that has to do with access to to move from where we would be to other parts of the community those are all options on the table but we're also looking at a major renovation of our current facility so we have partnered with an architect and a civil engineer  are just last week they surveyed the property and they're putting together an initial set of conceptual drawings if we were to do a big station renovation because what we do know for sure is that we can't continue to operate in the space that we're in we have outgrown that building in many many different ways one of the impacts is that we can't store all of our emergency response equipment indoors there and this time of year i can't leave the stock to ambulance outside has to come inside so one of our first response units that you couldn't was stripped off the vehicle was moved outside so i could have a third and go in stockton rage respond if needed so we are moving in a direction it'll either be to relocate within essex with a new facility or or a major renovation of our current facility but until we have some of the answers in the civil engineer you know we we aren't ready to make that decision yet but we certainly appreciate the opportunity we have to be on  on the high schools campus and there are some advantages for us that you know we did identify such as the hundred year lease at a dollar a year you know those are the types of damages that are going to be difficult to reproduce somewhere else so there are a lot of benefits to that so yeah forecast you know out five years or sound what you expect the annual per resident cost would be for each town i would not be prepared tonight to answer that question i certainly could follow up with you on that one of the we finished certain campaign this run this time last year was the road in this time last year but many of the people we've brought on have made it through all of their training so to in that in that year's time in which we had a driver and significant for drivers within last year a lot of that need has been has been answered and you know but that comes in ebbs and flows you know what we can't predict as one you know we could have seven or eight streamline our training processes and we've also taken steps that when we get providers into our organization that have previous experience they are fast tracked through our driver training process and we recognize their prior experience to be able to get them through their training more quickly and efficiently to get them into the front seat of the ambulance so they can operate and we take advantage of what they can offer us more quickly so yes so we are always looking for volunteers we're always accepting applications we don't always have openings but we do maintain an inventory of applications and as the knee as as wholly whole holes and openings come up we reach out to people who've applied and we get them you know we have really defined application process interview process and we get people into the pipeline and moving so like i'm curious this doesn't have anything to do with the budget but sure but what were you doing before you came to essex r so i spent the last of my career versus services started twenty three years ago with the city south burlington with junior far from the program i spent the last fifteen years working as a survivor paramedic for the city of south two thousand two hundred eighty requests for service and over if you compare that to the calendar year seventeen it was a four percent increase and that was one thousand two thousand one hundred ninety four so it was approximately four percent in for us ok and if you transport somebody go to the site and you have to transport somebody then insurance i think pays you right but if you don't have to transport but you go and you administer whatever you have to do and you don't transport what happens who pays for that work we do so that's two up until three weeks ago that was an expense that we that we rode off you know in some cases we arrive at someone and i'll give an example in some cases when you called for someone having a diabetic emergency you know their glucose is very low we arrive on scene and we provide treatment at the advanced life support level we correct the underlying medical problem payers who will pay for an assessment that does not and up resulting in a transport deficiencies one of the steps that i took recently to prove financial efficiency was we switch to an out of state so we are now for those patients who have insurance that will pay for an assessment that is now open to result in a transport we are billing those insurance carriers if we do have a community member who doesn't have that benefit  part of their insurance package we will not build them for that expense so i can say that what you bring up is a problem that every miss organization nationwide complains about is that you know more of so often we go out and provide essential services but then there's no ability for us to recover the costs that is changing and and know was one of the first insurance carriers in the south that started doing that i think of that wave is that trend is going to continue to increase it's it's not very early it's not very available when we look at the spectrum of payers that are available to them out residents there's not a lot of them that offer that benefit i believe we will see that change so but that's something that you know even my myself my colleagues around the state as leaders within the industry we're the ones who have to push the insurance industry to build those types of benefits and apply ok great because we you know because essentially what you're doing is the town of essex is subsidizing the insurance industry by providing subsidies you know i mean we can you know we be in this industry nationwide it's an by the declining rates of which medicare reimburses that you know are physician is that they don't pay their fair share so we have to go look elsewhere to help us make up that cost so i can tell you that we're doing everything we can to increase medicare reimbursement spots you absolutely mike in italy so now i have a question on the flip side of that that program that you solicit isn't the right word but the mailing that i get every year that i respond to th membership drive absolutely up to the donation and that's the case and we won't write we will bill for the ambulance piece how how's that working out for you as that is that of a push is that like a it's really it's a double edge sword to both edges are benefits it benefits organization because for you the resident to pay fifty dollars it's fifty dollars that we can put into our budget right that's our benefit the benefit for you or the team member is you will never pay in that calendar year the you sign up for you will not pay a dollar more if you could transported by ambulance beyond what your insurance benefit is so if you churns pay or pay sixty percent of the bill we were right off the remaining forty percent you know it's it works from our standpoint because far more you know we gets more subscribers in the into the membership program than we do as far as users right so it's it is a net gain for us but there's also you know for those who choose to spend the fifty dollars it's a significant it's it's not insurance policy but it's kind of like an insurance policy you know and it's one that will insulate you from having to pay anything beyond what your dollars per response but that's an oversimplistic number but it does give you some gauge at what the cost of readiness is and then when you talk about the calls that don't result in ok so paul boney paul and mark ok then we're going to hear about the green mountain transit and we were just talking about you in our budget earlier as well so do you have a presentation or are you just going to be telling hand out of libya i have we'd be focusing on obviously the financial part of the presentation that we had done previously so if we can just kind of get into that into the presentation was probably i can highlight on page two which gives you the urban revenue types based on a four seventeen we're going to update this obviously but this just gives you a hard chart that tells you where our funds actually come from what's happening across i would say between the federal government and the state government funds are becoming level funded expressly from the state and so veterans it's kind of level funding every year but as you all know costs go up we have union contracts etc and so what we have found ourselves going it's f y nineteen is fine except for twenty that is the reason for the assessment increase so that just kind of gives you an overview the rest of it is mostly just information for you to have very similar to what i had shown to you last year so you know so this year it's typical for g partners and passengers as you noticed in december eighteenth was the vote from the board on the urban system isn't the only place facing financial struggles all areas affected the staff is working to look at options on the road systems as well so how we're how we're the urban area which is changing county we have the assessment ability per the charter in the rural area we do not have that ability it was never put in the charter the charter was originally just about c c th and county but since we double edged sword as i heard earlier is when gas prices go up rightish it goes up problems when gas prices go up sort of our cost to operate the vehicle so right now is up about three point eight one percent system wide so you saw the prices go up in our fuel and the right should always kind of dictate as it goes with it and that's countrywide that's that's that's the that's every public transit agency pretty much in the country everybody was down there on six to ten percent when the gas prices were really low and that was again nationwide so it's very our industry is very weak and you can actually kind of gauge what's going to happen all the next coming weeks staff will present service options for the board with hope to creating efficiency improvements in the system to benefit overall health of the organization one thing we're presenting to our board is that we're giving them probably ten options to meet the budget deficit effect to essex it will be some other some other possible decisions that the board will have to make and recommendations and we have actually finance committee meeting tomorrow morning which will present that to the board as well which would give some options for the board to make a decision which way they want to go and how to get to a certain location or a certain spot in the budget as of late this afternoon actually we've been working as a staff just kind of trying to find all the options that we can of the way so we don't want to impact the service too much and so that's kind of the goal for us to present to the board so they have a full picture when the decision is made the overall goal is to maintain the services for our passengers and again like i it should being up three point one percent we're trying to continue that because as ridership gets better for us it means more funds for us it means across the board there are stick figures constant figures if i ride a ship continues to grow than we could have effectively continued to receive the six figures which is about two hundred thousand for each one so almost a million dollars we did lose one to two years behind so we did lose one which we're pretty close to losing anyways so we're maintaining the four that we have and we think is right it should continue to grow we will probably just continue to maintain hopefully get that if so that's a lot of commission a lot of words but basically i just want to kind of come in here let you know where we are for just give to give to your board a little sense of where we've been the last couple years of what our situation always turned into this is something didn't happen overnight we've seen this coming for the last two or three years we've had some significant fund balances in the role system that says that down to a point now we're we will exhaust that during this fiscal year so they'll be no fun balance nothing to go back on the cast position the urban area  has been decreasing annually so there were certainly going to be in a position now for the first time since i've been around of asking the board for an anticipation open in to space in of grant funds just in case our cash flow gets to the point where we have told paying bills when we look at it you saw other percentage of federal and state funds and even most of the federal funds come through the state a lot of those  do that that has not even been level level funded to try to balance out our role system of the state has moved two hundred thousand out of the urban system into the real system to help prop that up but that's really left us two hundred thousand dollars short of where we didn't needed to be so that was a major factor the other thing that we've had to do to kind of keep things afloat is is there are certain federal funds came in that we have we can use for freighting  had of a little bit of a backlog of those funds available and so we've been having to infuse those into the operating going forward so we're reducing those of those amount of funds that are available so i just try to paint a picture to you that  of last couple years they've done a really great job you know that can fluctuate all you need is a couple people moving and that require as a stage services if they're not picked up by yours well your senior director to get them on is in your van before the village trustees i asked in terms of analyzing ridership and like that the richmond park and ride and people who move on from richmond down to montpelier have you ever considered putting a line from the essex bus stop to the village bus stop to the richmond park and ride to enable everybody here and there are a lot of people here who work in my player so they can take the bus from here instead of having a transfer in burlington they can come to the park they can pick it up here and ride through the park and ride down to my killer is that ever going to be a route that might be considered being added i don't know if that specific group but i will tell you we just went through the next gen study which is eighteen month study to kind of make our system take a look at a whole system see how it works and into a lining is one of those comments that has made from going from point a to point b without nothing in you know not anything in the middle of the d t c or anything like that so i don't know if that specific one was mentioned but i can  roads come up that would be helpful because richmond is right now it's overflowing that too was hard to find parking there you very else and i recall in the past seeing a lot more numbers from you know that maybe this comes later i don't know remember seeing the line items that have all the different communities what they're what they're paying so we can get some sense whether  so it's probably going to tell you talk about expanding routes but there's business is in this section hill industrial park who i've heard from that would love to be able to have some bus service up that way it's getting to be more populated than developed so that a lot of workers going in and out of that every day that i think could benefit from some type of bus service that we receive some  interested in that and that bus service i think they're working with revision and blodget and someone else up in that area we seem to have a lot of not only of our own residents but when you ski and just north and east of here seem to be a lot of their employees truck through i think route fifteen i think it's the number and also try utilized tax rate the class tax rates between the town in the village a little bit more basically just to recap the the idea was to take the village rolling stock budget put had to authorize that increase of more than six percent the second piece was to allow would have been to allow the transfer of village capital funds into the town operating budget at this point feedback that stuff is heard from both boards maybe not the right time we still think it's a good idea to get really good idea in terms of limiting the highway tax and offsetting some of those budget or tax discrepancies between the town in the village but from what we're hearing it's probably not the right time to do it this year so recommendation is that it be held off postponed this year the psych ward not accept the village full of stock transfer still keep the highway tax in place of the town outside the village  and keep this idea somewhere on the back burner on a shelf somewhere to be pulled off and dusted off and reconsidered as other merger consolidation discussions take place buses are comments about leavin the rolling start with the village and the highway tax as it is think the village trustees are going to have to make some other adjustments in the meeting tomorrow  one of the yeah so one of the options for us would be to perhaps take the building supervisor completely but that's something we could talk about i think the would if this were the case and the rolling stock did not transfer and the highly taxed remained in place and there would be other areas that the trustees need to explore reducing in order to maintain a favorable tax rate and so they would they would not want to be able to sort that twenty twenty percent or thirty percent of that building as manager position that was initially put on the books so silly we will have to have a discussion about but in general the idea would be is that they're looking for trustees looking for their story today about the rolling stock and the proposal right now is for us to just leave it with the trustees and leave the highway taxes as is for now knowing we're talking about merger and if we do go forward at some time in the future that that would maybe that's the right time to do it but i think any of the concerns about about that plan  do we should we have the discussion about whether to eliminate the town outside the village highway tax whether or not the rolling stock moves  been we've been when i brought this up when we set the tax rate last year i asked two of the major than didn't fly i don't know if consideration is different now and whether it should be discussed again thoughts are to leave it unchanged this year for this budget and it could be if we go forward with the merger in the public wants it that's that's it that's the time when that would disappear that would also help with the budget impact to those outside the village at that time and i think that would be the more appropriate time at which to to get  rid of that tax so we're not overly talking less than another two years or so something like that but i'm not in favor of getting rid of it in this budget i'd like to for the reasons i just did mike i'm not mistaken that rate is point zero one one and there's a couple more there but for all intents and purposes it's one and one tenth penny and i'm not mistaken based on the assessment or the two eighty that we always use i can't remember but he said a hundred and twenty or one hundred thirty thousand  fifty sorry to sixty one point these lessons thank you so if we eliminate that there's another one sixty five that we've got to find or cut someplace right we were to do that now on not accepting the rolling stock and leaving the highway tax in place here and on all those in favor of the motion see if i was saying i i i i post yeah emotion passes for to move on to our next item of business which is approval of process to send letters of appreciation to volunteers  appreciation for abby i think it started with the resolution was an idea and typically on two resolutions that was really good good member of the energy committee but she'd only been there for about a year before life circumstances took her away to michigan to think but so started kicking around the idea morning figured that it can absolutely try to do something to to recognize volunteers who do step down after they've done some service for the town  idea was to do to a general letter of appreciation from the select board to be signed by the select board chair nothing to to elaborate but just to thank you for your service staff and the chairperson  committee you can try to come up with some tasks and ideas and thoughts that show what the person has done and he tasks they've worked on their efforts that they were a part of and just be able to fill that formatter out a little bit and then be able to put it on the consent agenda and bring it to the boards and have the chairman sign i think i don't really want to automatic letter generated just because someone resigns from our committee but if they've shown up at meanings they've done something to warrant a letter then i say by all means i said it with that letter need to be approved you know or or or we're going to make one motion to say that this look we're chair can always sign all letters of appreciation from here forward  process that i didn't mean for it to be agreed to the content so much as provide some examples or input though the seventies and he's asking i think he wants to know if the motion needs to include the process of having staff contact the chair of the comm if the chair that whether or not the individual is appropriate for write a letter of appreciation you know it was that was part of the discussion that we just had to be willing to make a friendly and then to the to of giving appreciation to people who deserve it floor and more so absolutely deserve some recognition and a resolution of a resolution of appreciation board seeing a resolution tonight the trustees tomorrow night but for it was a long  employee of the village in the town checking the date the copy that elaine has has the actual date of when she was promoted to the finance director in the village but lauren was instrumental in the village finances tell her we will miss her and that we greatly appreciate the many years of are dedicated  junction on june seventh one thousand nine hundred three and where as lauren was promoted to village finance director slash and i asked director in two thousand and six and where as lauren was co hired as co interim village manager for the village of essex junction in september two thousand and twelve serving in that role for more than ten months and where as lauren was hired as finance director for the town of essex and the village of essex junction in january two thousand and fifteen becoming the first unified finance director for the town essex and the village of essex junction and where as lauren retired on december thirty first two thousand and eighteen concluding more than twenty five years of dedicated service and leadership to the entire essex community and where as lauren played a crucial role in consolidating the village in town finance departments and aligning village and town budgets and whereas lauren's budgeting skills creativity and the school oversight ensured that the village in town had strong financial basis and where as lauren served as a mentor to numerous municipal employees demonstrating leadership through honesty and expertise now therefore be it resolved that the board of trustees and the select board on behalf of the staff and citizens of the town of essex including the village approval of resolution in appreciation of randy vs great yes randy v n c the assessor another long time employee for the town who is going to be missed quite a bit mostly retired on the respected in the town he also did a lot of work in the state he was a long time member of the vermont association brought assessors and lyster association he was testifying down in front of the state legislature doing research in terms of assessment c use appraisals those types of things so another person who believe is very much deserving of a resolution of appreciation and hope the board concurs thank you great comments questions about the resolution ought to fix the date and that would do well a lot of people don't usually come into the town to talk to the finance director directly i could tell you they come in to see the tax and in my first ten months i have never been anywhere where people didn't complain about their tax assessment and how they were treated randi and his department do a fantastic job and did of explaining how your taxes got to be what they are based upon value in the process karin has some very large shoes to fill in that respect as well and where as randy retired on december thirty first two thousand and eighteen concluding more than twenty four years of dedicated service and leadership to the entire essex community and where as randy oversaw the two thousand and seven reappraisal and whereas randy always treated residents business owners customers and coworkers with respect and honesty and where as randy was a long time member of the vermont assessors and listers association spending time on the board of directors and as chair of the legislative committee and whereas randy was a member of many legislative summer study committees and often testified in front of the vermont legislature on matters such as assessment current use legislation and the state's equalization study and where as randy was appointed by governor where as randy received a sherry vermillion award for recognition of outstanding service from the northeast regional association of assessing officers inc in two thousand and seventeen now therefore resolved to select board on behalf of the staff  work because we'll be busy here so i appreciate that read thank you and across those out but the ones that are in yellow are the the available ones and as we did in years past if everybody can sign up to do at least two events and it's nice to have two people and event but it's not necessary so i was hoping you had a chance to look at your calendar and if you wanted to offer up some slots to fill i would fill in the table and then make that available to evan to distribute to everybody and we want to talk also about what other q and a's or handouts we want to want to do and i think greg had some ideas you know one i think would be on governance kind of where we are with governance be wh to think about doing one where we are on the shooting ordinance and some that people may want to to hear about and open for other other suggestions if you have any one and then go to page two read construction of the sentence in the middle of line one fifty two was a little awkward i thought i love to change couple of words and have fractions of the minutes but i don't know how many of these are detailed enough that they need to be spelled out i think the most important one is three thirty where we take out the last five words had members of both words so don't add members of both words right context to us and then a line three thirty eight we need to add like board members were campaigning might choose to sit out and then i would insert the line the group determined that all if they don't campaign right provided they're not casting time here or are we editing the minutes that these bulleted items at it do you understand what i'm saying and it's very matter of those words that i had added because i had crossed out some words that were there in the previous minutes that right in the previous minutes the secretary in in the draft that i don't have for me for example she doesn't say to take out the words that i asked her to take out and add this phrase so to just keep it simple i'm taking out the phrase that i added because it's easier than saying remove these other words that i said to remove blah blah blah blah well ok so my question is understanding what you just said i mean these particular minutes that these changes belong to are not the minutes we're changing so we have to do is there's no i we have to change this line in order to make amends make sense he's quick just to process this up and a couple times so we have a new process that you might have noticed that we don't give you the minutes that you're signing tonight because sometimes if there's corrections to the corrections if you go back couple times of w so we're correcting corrections that's ok but they haven't they were signed or are waiting a little bit longer to sign them because we had some times where we have signed corrected minute trying to prove minutes things are correct so there's a matter when their son or when they're pretty well that's my question and i don't mean to part part hairs here but if the board is going to be approving changing already approved minutes we need to open up those minutes ago that's my only point and since for a very particular about process on this board i felt i should play i'm fine with going back to the change i asked for in those minutes rather than correcting the change as it was made but that still requires a change here that's why i'm there that's fine i just want to make sure we're correcting the right things and not getting in trouble you clear because i'm not who can explain that i think sense when you look at the minute subject number fifteenth which i did this ill have to be updated according to what i handed you on the december fifteen minutes which was to take out a certain phrase at about and joint board members resolution because i thought she was just the village co manager was she also town manager an assistant manager she was definitely assistant manager  co manager yes ok so i'm taking out the words town manager and assistant and inserting village co hyphen at the end of forty three because i work for people she was the village assistant manager and assistant you should keep the end assistant manager just add the word cross out the word town and add village and coach and manager got it thank you page to read a line you get the and it's really wordy instead of saying of the location of where each line came from could we just say the so instead of location origin it said a whole long phrase location of where each line came from it's just really redone in a i think we could just say the origin of each line is they pretty ok with that yeah also one sixty four we have the word recreation and we have the word recreation in the next line so maybe we don't need to be too generous there with saying it twice  such as one of forty and one forty three and one forty seven and one fifty six and one sixty i see the word rolling stock but i thought it was a rolling stock but you're adding to the t and especially we see the phrases like we do in here like we're going to move rolling stock somewhere considering rolling stock moves i think really nice to say fun every time we say rolling stock in the section ok so what is the also for yes sorry i won sixty seven members consider using the highway tax not for the building manager but to offset funding for the  funding in between highly tax and for the building manager we're ok with that because it's not a direct funding of the building manager position with the highway tax obviously it's  with the yellow vest  well i'll be there with you letter of the meeting schedule i'd like to draw your attention to the annual meeting time which has changed it has never been seventy four to my knowledge so i'd really like to make it seven thirty so that we're consistent with what everyone public hearing on the proposed budget on january twenty third chairs put together like a board member but i don't i think the main thing is to get tell make sure that the staff knows how many copies we need to get and then you  the third or fourth or vent that we've been to a basketball game they're like i already g five so andy i move that this like board make the specific finding the premature general public knowledge of the time just in concerning the proposal even relations agreements with employees would take place would i move that the select ward entered into executive session to discuss labor relations agreements with employees pursuant to one vs a section three thirteen a one b to include the unified manager deputy town manager and