powerpoint presentation through video and testimony and i think there are some facts that i want to start out with with the argument i believe there and contest the argued i guess i don't understand the question are you saying that based on the nature of pornography based upon the nature of the pornography or the nature of the crimes committed by the perpetrator of these cases wasn't there a link between these two which the court know there was some evidence regarding forced sex and i think specifically that's what you're on task and you are saying now let me be more clear it seemed to me that the significant portion of the women victims that this got him off this is what he would like to see this is what he wanted them to do it's such a shame so what i'm saying is this it seems to me or  particular breed or type or form that was emphasized in the pornography and in fact we know from the victim is emphasize by the perpetrator why isn't that a relevant link that there's other things i want to address about that ok the first meet the evidence regarding the penetration with objects and usually that's one small part of the market and she trial there was pornography that stay shown everything from women masturbating to lesbian sex to for sex fan the images that i believe you're speaking about were a pretty small percentage well no the problem with that stupid one they tell you is that there's got to be a percentage involved for romance and be shown in the second problem is that's not my belief of what in fact is the case wasn't a small sum it was a significant percent i'm not going to give you a number as to what it was but a why was this bec subset of pornography for like a better way to put it so i'm not sure if your first response is well if you have thirty percent of it total number be this for leakage or i don't i don't understand that that's why i should have why should we accept that i'm not saying you have to have a certain percentage i'm saying that when you're looking at the broad picture of what was interviews in this case whether it is the digital penetration whether it is arguably there are a lot of men that like looking at women masterbating and women putting things inside themselves we know that in a way because some of the web sites how did themselves advise choice of the year the best west side of whatever explaining to the women why he wanted them this gets me off and so i took his this link with this because your emphasis on the same thing in the defendant's sure it i understand you say i respectfully disagree with with that position in that the state got in a lot and this was certainly a part of what they got him but they got it in without saying leading up somehow that this shows that he is the man that did this if you're speaking about like identity you mention identity the state side of people versus poco which is a case where a that probably shows that i have an unhealthy interest in the same facts please come to my house they walk in and i have one of the most extensive wall libraries known in the private collection not so much in that circumstance it shows that certainly but i have a much broader interest the state interviews pornography from essentially six months after the last sexual assault two year and a half after the last sexual assault and like you said these include things like i have photographs of  can't say that all of this was relevant and certainly that the jury when it looked at this material and thought oh my gosh he's a guy i think looking at some of this myself it's hard to look a the body of his wife in their home she's that police questioned they're satisfied with his responses but mostly they release him seven months later we see to him again because it has been alleged he has committed a non consensual sexual act with another man immoral person the other thing the court said was this was from seven months after his wife's and there's the link between the two is far too tenuous to say that it's relevant i think the exact same logic applies to this case only this case is if my wife audits that website or artifact computer it's to show that if i do that every day i'm going to have three hundred sixty five pictures of women he's on my computer because no matter that i can scroll down and look at the photographs of the sports illustrated swimsuit issue it's you know there was a lot of evidence in this case and it could be that the jury you know look at them to convict him of less germs after six years and that wasn't just from the moment they left the course of the time they were trying to hurt they deliberated for sixteen hours compelling i've certainly heard statements that are if you ever heard us accept it i'm not aware that i have i'm just saying it in all of the trial i believe it was around five at least in my opinion is far more prejudicial than it is probably of anything here to make the vast majority of which was really six months to your have after the sexual assaults you have absolutely no evidence that some of the abuses pornography goes on and the jury and i should note the jury were twelve women from everyday life hard working people here coming in there saw her there listening the sevens my time's up is it ok if i just continue why did the state's attorney argue for everything i mean that's i don't understand we're assuming that there's some stuff here it's clear they could be linked categories that just the student just mentioned what  no specific objection made to that particular par sufficiently likes this particular crime to be this and this case the objection and the focus the trial was all that first question trial i don't personally i don't know why bust your wrists over overturning this case five putting in more than what was absolutely necessary to so difficult you were trying to to cut and paste to present what is and what is not again there is never any request follow or to do e i'm drawing a blank sex with animals there was something about a balloon fetish there was information about spanking none of it has any relevance to this case and your journey looking at this and i disagree with mr mansion and justice i mean i rightfully pointed out she badges from the county the second batch didn't get slammed because i couldn't find the printer in springfield to do it based on the content of the exhibits so certainly i would ask that the court go back and review all the exhibits because as you go along they just get presentational it's really all on the subject matters that god and the extent to which they got the state i think a reference to earlier this interview's that between january and june two thousand and six he was looking at the use