good evening i want to welcome you all to the march meeting of the richmond development review board for those in the audience if you haven't signed in would you please sign in and if anybody in the audience is here for a warrant hearing on the fish and game club there's going to be continuance on that so we won't hear the continuance till after the  first matter on our agenda but i wanted to warn you in case you don't want to sit through anything else also for those in the audience if you have interest in an application i would urg to speak on it if you have want to add your comments down the road under from our law if you want to be a participant in any appeal you need to have spoken at the hearing so just one ask tell you that and for those who might be watching the tape version of this i would again urge anybody who has interest we're still a person short manager and submit your name if you have any interest at all and zoning or what we do in with our applications or if you don't like what we do and join the board and you can have a say in what so the first matter on our agenda is candice and richard campbell application thirteen dash zero one four for plymouth airy subdivision review for two lot subdivision for a ten point one acre parcel located at seventeen twenty four canyon road in the agricultural residential zoning district the applicants are requesting a waiver to combine the plumeri and final plan approval so kinnison richard or whoever is going to speak for them it wasn't any reason not to we don't have a stake in the matter as far as where house should be placed we just wanted to make sure that it was met guidelines met by law and it was approved subdivision slope upward uphill from the house but that's i mean that's up to somebody else but if they want to build their s steep steep and when there's a big snowstorm you want to get out early in the morning you don't you know necessarily time to plow and we're pyrrhus we don't salt or sand the driveway so we just want  it's a tax  we now give an opportunity to anybody in the audience who has any questions permanent unless there were some special reasons that there was long as they stayed within the building of law that set up or they want to move that was to another part of the lay and then they would have to come back at least to your office  it's not our only job thank you thank you john next on the agenda we have the children county fishing game club application twelve dish two five they are from there what we've been able to determine tried very hard working with a mediator to settle their differences which this board likes to be a great idea as they've been forced before and would like to see them  we also have a letter from paul and emily dawson whose application we heard previously and approved it and they had sixty days to come back for their final hearing and they've asked for an extension of the sixty days due to the winter and a desire to think a little more about their application and for the final hearing so no one has oh here oh hi paul how much time would you like on the way through the summer  an application or a motion to give an extension to paul and emily dawson for six months replication one two one three or so move so done you'd like to have an informal discussion with us  this is done more if you don't know him and he would like to discuss an idea that he has with  foster what i'm proposing to do with him i have a condition purchase of the property and the condition is this and it i guess is public record be significant in a way almost in line here's my current property and the house right now at least it's right up close to the road and i would go and actually have it so so if you're in your conceptual planning aside from the tree you would use your existing right of way which is over martha's property to get to full structures and you know i really wanted to do that but i can understand why martha she didn't want to drop all that traffic go through the drive so when i'm thinking i'm going to have a separate driveway to service those four units and at the present i'm thinking of keeping whatever we have servicing mine units existing people just the way it is and there's a possibility and depending where you guys think and what the other neighbors think that i would close the right away to marketers and have all people access it through the new so it's not like enough for two cars to me and this is color photo of both sides of the house but basically the houses on the market for a long  time the offers were not even competitive he just could sell it for what it was getting if this offer doesn't go through piece in he's indicated that he's just go owns like point one three acres and she's in favor because she's sick of looking at that building so for her that's that's that's i've talked to the neighbor that's off pleasant street and pauline knapp has passed away and the the sun's basically live there and that they don't have an issue with  and martha you want to talk about what i'm here ok but i think martha's concern roast she didn't want me to originally i was thinking of why create in the driveway make that green space with the flowers and i can understand why martha doesn't want it and the other four zero four tenants going through there through the curve right away i mean yes y lot yes and the reason i'm approaching you folks is i do want to spend architectural services and engineering services to to go down the three five acres in this point four seven so even though i'm before i'm looking at two bedroom apartment probably so i personally think it's a great idea and in every way it meets with the town plans this and the only problem is and you're aware of it is that we have what we bumped into before this rule that says you need about a third of an acre with per unit now to me and that clause has stopped us with at least one other project that's been brought before us also in the village that to us to this board seem to make a lot of sense also so our problem is just wrestling with that particular it's up to the planning commission i have no problem personally with your project i think it's a great idea sure all the neighbors would like to see a lot improved  think richmond really has to think about you know the i know the increasing the density in the plane commission from a third maker to quality you look at the whole town nothing is going to happen with that and until the income that you get from an old building doesn't a lot and the selling price you can get based on slums or buying it just doesn't work to knock it down it is so much money and you look at the property the brick building that's got six you know four five units next to the ski express i've been told that that property you go in there and it and the way to i think is stark and if we want it and if at the town meeting jeff said that we're going to lose fifty thousand a year for the sewer plant because of the septic hauler moving out we need more water users we need the tax base you know nothing's going to happen to the apartments on main street until we i've got another property in that i'm considering buying into wills to so and again if i don't purchase this property chances are he's going to be there that if you look on one side steven wright yes if you look at one side to the side of the basin the fire station yeah there's staging and the sightings off and every dollar he puts in that know there's definitely a need and there's definitely a desire to have houses in the village where people especially senior citizens like to walk to the ocean office and to the bank and i was really a little bit frustrated when i got out of that meeting that night and it stopped like this that really makes me upset because the planning commi and the zoning regulations do not fulfill the needs of the town and they don't really can address wills to for example they have a criteria that they wanted twenty affordable not low income housing and seven years they built one so it's like the zoning the town plan says i want this we need people that work in garages and sales and whatever we need a place for them to live but then they put out impact i got a developer who's got seven units and been tied in zoning for six years he's got the talent almost to the point where now they're going to just the impact fees he's gotten to cut of half he's trying to get hundred percent of the impact fees removed so he can build affordable housing eight percent of the median income richmond w can't go upstairs so i was going to build two flats downstairs and make it a little bit above the average house so so the question is will we do a three point three point mendment to the ordinance i don't believe this is in their right but it certainly could be and i'm you know that the comment that we get a lot  months three meetings this is the second project where the town plan is not up held by the ordinance it because of was then your project will go forward as well as the other one  because i think as as a group this board probably doesn't have a problem with what you are proposing that we didn't have a problem with the other project except for that a year i can write i can tell you right now that your problem will not get some a month even playing commission says yes david what you're proposing makes a lot of sets will jump are because i don't think it will go that quickly but i would say that they're probably going to bring that out with him by summer and the three the three specific changes will probably  be within the six weeks but those three changes as david said are not related to what's being discussed here right so it would be a it would be a new element that they would understand  titian petition they're hoping that the way they're going to present it will be palatable enough that it will go through we've done this a number of times and  deal with the flood plain with one new section in the sign regulations and parking in the bridge street central business block plant mission isn't likely to take up the creamery parcel question right now so those are very close are pretty small specific things that shouldn't cause too many problems let me actually the board this would give if you were going to talk to the planning commission were you thinking of just how changing the wording so instead a shout out to a little more i would like the different yeah i would just talk about the section but i wouldn't do it i mean and instead of talking about something in the abstract which is what we end up all these doing various into real situations where this section is affected ok we have seven minutes we're moving right along here  we could either go into deliberative session and discuss the drafts that kathleen has presented us from last meeting or we could discuss the draft while we're still on the record no we would not have to come out of the live in session to act on them i think at least two of them are pretty straightforward to me want to deliver it on the night well i'm saying that at least two of these are pretty straightforward and we may want to go and live recession