but there's no no problem here because we will we have the briefs and we will read the briefs and listen to are you miserable both parties will mr rogers may proceed but remember that in future you must comply with all the rules which you need it which requires you to notify the vehicle would be completed unless the sun well there's cases with ten minutes fifteen minutes that have been held to be reasonable but yes it depends on the facts and circumstances of the particular case your contention here is that seven and a half minutes to complete the mission of the traffic stop in them as he didn't want to watch the guy go through his wall as he wanted him out of the deal in wilson he didn't want that passenger in the back of the car while the driver was going t found the trial court found that there was not enough evidence to warrant the extension and frankly i think that the state conceded that in its brief the state's brief seems to be entirely focused on the issues we've talked about so far this morning  individuals who are on the way to the hospital following the shooting and he's alone at this one so it will actually drop walked up on the passenger side not and then he waits for backup and then  commands the driver to get out of the car and in the case of this cold officer get the passengers out and there there's the gun so you're saying he should have been writing a traffic ticket instead of doing those things well you have to have you have to remember for the other portion of that correct no i know i think you look at whether the mission is complete and because they had already performed those other checks it's that moment where he asked him to get out between x time and the discovery of the garment which i knowledge is only a minute forty when she was in and at the moment he gets it out of the car if it's not for emission related purposes then any extension even i'm not going use the word ministers rodriguez rejected that if he is not doing certainly he has to get it out of the car if that is not an issue related then i think we have an improper structure so i don't think there's a time for i think rather just teaches us there's not a time frame it's it's the mission and once he says i'm not what's he says i'm not writing a ticket i'm not doing anything related to never been done right in the ticket at the time we discovered that correct i don't know he may have made a decision to not write any warning or take it all in we weren't able we weren't able to cross it on apple because questions to get somebody on the vehicles long as it's not going to prolong the duration stop it's profit to ask for the driver and passenger to exit the vehicle what about the resistance one will try to open the door view window he would have gone straight back to his vehicle and began to write his ticket and then we take those eighty seconds and put it at the end then i think at that point we might have a question about whether or not the traffic citation was for the traffic stop was going to extend it was your  intention of writing the ticket he only wanted to get into the car put down these individuals can quote you so this is not a situation where officer of the field and the sort of issues as far as officer safety know that's not the standard is  the question of the state there was a motion for sanctions based on the fact that officer our officer told her that officer field all failed to put on their cameras they also testif faces could have been captured some of this nervousness some of the some of the things that they test by two could have been captured on those body cameras i believe that just becoming actors that after making specific determinations as far as credibility is concerned pointed conversations on the body camera you can hear out of talking to other officers in specifically pointing out what he was intending to do and once again just this it would be that his objective because i have nothing further