government argues that it does and i'm not saying it's insignificant if you look at the application he indicates very clearly i was involved in the student group and then he goes on to describe what is activist activities were and the board's opinion even notes that those activities are time of the hearing well the basis for that i think is that you know if the court has that issue in kuwait or jordan which find that he was testifying before an american tribunal that he believes that those governments are  well you know he said i was in a student organization that did these activist things and it's not that important to you we have to come to the conclusion that the evidence compel explanation for why he had named names we're still talking about simply the name of the group when the activities described that he engaged his number the group were consistently testified to throughout from beginning to end and so i you know i was because she understood that he was going to be permitted to return to kuwait and so keep in his mind that not understanding what the standards for asylum are you know in the way you govern wouldn't take him back and viewed it necessary to establish a silence is denied voluntary departure in the support of the country he can return here for ten years he the board based its finding that he was ineligible for voluntary departure on the fact that he had supposedly the on what what he offered to to prove that because there was no presumption raised he had to prove that he had a subjective really genuine fear and that it was objective leave reasonable and when you  don't there's three four or five thousand pages of evidence here but when you just still this all down here is the evidence that he claims supports his well founded fear of future persecution it's basically three things one that in  only considering his persecution it kind of persecution in jordan is entirely claim rests on his association with this group and the fact is that he wants to have it both ways he its application something i don't know the exact words you probably have it handy for something like that because my friends were tortured they say that that i that i urged them to i'm not arguing that he wasn't that he wasn't involved in activities for palestinian rights what the board said was that they found that that his last minute naming of this organization made no sense and that it w would he not have said in his application and i was responsible for what this court has to find is that it was so compelling that you would have to have believed him and i'd also like to point out that at the time that he claims that the jordanian government was activities all took place in kuwait prior off and almost all prior to one nine hundred eighty two when he was a high school student they pretty much amount to having quotes together are one student newspaper well it was very interesting even though he claims a well founded fear of persecution in kuwait he went back in one thousand nine hundred five to get married he went back in one thousand nine hundred seven and stayed until nine hundred eighty nine he came back to the united states for two months and he went back to kuwait for hundred ninety after the first gulf war of returning to collate the united states not sending him to kuwait and the reason that this is that this is important for his jordanian applications because none of these activities took place in in jordan they all took place in kuwait and yet even after that he traveled back and forth in and out of kuwait and he spent one periods of time in kuwait without that he had some problems where he was detained he w required to report to the police station but that that does not appear to be any different then it's a repressive society we agree to that and they have very different rules in the united states but the fact is that he felt safe  eighty five to go back and get married in one thousand nine hundred seventy go back twenty years and to build a business with his brother and to come back cheaper ways i'm talking about kuwait writing about being sent to jordan right exactly but his entire trip to jordan none of this that's with somebody who is afraid after nine hundred eighty seven because of his participation in the psionic university uprising in one of the streets with somebody having a well founded fear so i think that what you need to do is look it's not just a question of him having omitted it you know that and i have to admit when i picked up the petitions brief before looking at the record i thought wow how could that be a significant mission just the name of something and i had the same reaction but when i read the record and i and i put the pieces together it's not just a question of the emission of this name is a question about how all of these things line together and how this petitioner in country conditions but of the fact that jordan supports and supported at the time an independent palestinian state this gentleman said the people on an organization that is committed to furthering an independent palestinian state by  nonviolent means and there is just a huge amount of others that is all cited in the government's brief to the board talking about jordan's position on that they even support people who support hamas which is a violent organization i would suggest that that's pretty clear that they are questioning the credibility of this claim we question a response tory about this party's interest in his family so they are clearly questioning that and so that is another they don't say discretion i suggested that that that is a discretionary basis and as far as the good moral character are there are cases that say that that is a determination that is in the attorney general's discretion and so therefore if it's a