appellants and the latter were both citizens of the united states residence of the state of new york and sworn to support and defend the constitution for the united states and the state of new york this case arose because the elected officials who run westchester county and the town of harris and he voted to increase their financial compensation and to have that increase take effect without an intervening general election this violates both the constitutional law and principles set forth in both our federal and state constitutions for plaintiffs the overriding question is the meaning we agree upon learning of this violation missed a few cheer and i respectfully thermally professionally petitioned the officials in both the county and the town for a redress of the violations they did not respond for us the overriding question in this case is the meaning of the st amendment right to petition the government for redress of grievances especially violations of the constitution whether the right to petition the government for redress of grievances is in fact an individual an alien or will civil liberty a promise given full faith and credit when the nation was founded one of our most significant checks and balances thus not to be infringed abridged or abolished by government official them either the legislature of the right to petition the our region and line of growth the purpose and the scope of that right we relied on that and that history that a stark all record makes clear that when we the people the executive and legislative officials they are obligated to respond and they did not and so we were forced to come to rather to peacefully a petition the the record shows we relied on a thorough written starke will review of the petition clause the defendants and the district court relied on the minnesota versus night case it's an case it deals with public employees petitioning their public employers involving grievance procedures that case was decided by the defendants were obligated to respond we relied on the right and the decision in the borough of jury a case let me quote briefly it's in the record but let me say  the supreme court has made clear in borough of terri a in any manner involving the right to petition interpretation of the petition must be guided by the objectives and that petitions were directed to the executive your point your honor were directed to the x that's as judge thomas i think added this there is abundant historical evidence that petitions were directed to the executive and legislative branches of the government that's how it proceeded until the gag rule sort of put a sort of bent the rules but the gangrel in and it is a court date shown of the west as a county attorney's office on behalf of the westchester county ordered legislators this court's decision in the related case of c of the new york last night it's directly on point i'll just briefly address two arguments honor is that the board of legislators is specifically empowered by the westchester county code which was in turn ratified by westchester voters said the compensation of its members of titian salaries a quintessential political issue not a judicial not it or petition against it which as your honor is noted they in fact which brings us to their st amendment clause spring court made abundantly clear in minnesota state board which is still good law a quote nothing in the st amendment suggests that the right to petition  there just noting that the supreme court's petition calls jurisprudence doesn't really address historical issues and i think a judge rogers and people refer to this as an interesting question and it may very well be but you also join that the majority in that court in holding on to quickly that quote plaintiffs contend they have a right under the st amendment to receive a government response to or official consideration of a petition for redress of grievances we disagree and i would just note that this this court  local budget a town budget they do not reside in the town if they have not demonstrated an injury it fact arising from the time budgets adoption and they raise no issues here with