phenomenal wrestler like all grown up back he wrestled in high school back in the seventy's i guess it was started out middle school worked his way up you know thing thing senior year he was a senior in high school and he won  national championship beating pending collegiate and as he did rest on the finals then he went on he went to the international level as a senior high school he was the only american representative the placed second or he they came to conclusion there was no real reason behind it or they couldn't determine the his reason for doing it he was pleading insanity he killed a shot and killed the guy and this was like six months before the olympics and so you have this olympic team that doesn't have a trainer so you are a coach or anything like that and you have this this icon that was killed and so essentially their family came along and financially back to they got everything going on and that was what i think is interesting about it from just what i hear about this gives the future is that you make the purchase you know you buy something for for derek and then just as a derek you're getting this gift and  goes and he sells in his address and the size you are you know the size of the shirt he wears or whatever his favorite coffee is it's not something coffee thing i obviously facebook is continuing to drive to find ways to monetize and make money off their site i'm not sure if this is going to be a big success and if you guys that about really this is the first i'm hearing of it i mean brought this up before the show was this is a lost cause anyway facebook's a dead medium worked on i mean it's getting rapidly replaced by twitter moving on to something else but when you talked about it and you're talking about real gift my impression off the bat was they need to make some sensible gifts here not necessarily a shirt but if i'm talking about something like air time if i'm talking about something like messaging features from talk about something that has no real cost to any consumer for example the cost of cheeseburgers fifty cents no matter what but the cost of air time or text messaging that's identical whether people send thousands of text messages or one hundred text back so if the cost to a corporation is virtually nothing then it's a brilliant idea i mean even something like a shirt manufactured in you know some third world country has a cost of a quarter or or whatever towards the bottom line that's going to cost facebook money to even get all the advertising revenue to cover that but if it's the cost of just advertising use i think it's a brilliant idea to give something away that has value but is of no cost to a consumer suddenly i think facebook has a way to start earning back some of that stock value mean as far as the gifts are concerned i imagine you know this is this is no cost to facebook they're sensually they are doing what they have done all along as far as facebook ads that is making it more of a front page thing whereas our if you buy it on this they're going to don't imagine that this whole thing is not going to be a secretive gift giving out they're going to be a way that you can publish it to somebody wall saying i write hey i bought you this movie now you can but it's another thing sort of like putting a feather in my cap if that's the you know is facebook becoming and it's obvious it's it's tough to talk about this gargantuan company as all these users and thinking about failure so quickly but when you when you look at the site and you look at  it has become so much and somebody you know blog one times that i thought very well it's facebook has become about who is there as opposed to what it is and it's the you know the it's it's only because there are so many people there that it's successful as opposed to this is the this is a great interactive tool this is a you know something that's that's people are dying to get into and i'm sorry no is that what twitter is twitter is now started do ads on the sides of things and it's also kind getting uglier and uglier and it just seems like that's that's the time that's always right for somebody to have to swoop in and kind of take over you know take over that user base and come up with something news and citing that draws the  base to somebody else now but my question is i guess facebook's have always had this problem with trying to figure out how in the world you know we've got five hundred million users how do we get money from them  know something that is a facebook portal that optimizes facebook in such a way and is something that in essence they give a way to get you to use facebook more i mean it's something that but they could go through gifts and and games and all this thing where they do make their oh i think that that window is closed for them i think right now facebook what they need to do is minimize their losses realize that the end of this is coming and get as much money as they can on the closure and i think that's what they're doing i mean the amount of users has been saturated all of that exponential growth we've heard for years and years is not coming anymore i mean most of the people i think who have or want a facebook page have it and they're using it as a background tool i mean i don't find myself going there more than once a day anymore and i'm certainly not perusing like i used to do very drop in the bucket nothingness is a way to stay in project with people no ever talks about the walled garden you come in and you never leave and because it's never gotten people to just go in and stay in and use it for search and use and that's what this is obviously about is about well you don't have to go to amazon or whatever not that they're going to have anything close to a hassle to g wasn't there so late to be so late to the market at this point for a tablet and maybe going up against a juggernaut i think people that are the technology world versus just a simple website in order for them to be successful again they would have to do something that facebook is moving away from which is be very good at one thing facebook is this huge buyer web effect right now we're trying to everything but they're not being good at one thing like the kindle still has its market share because it is good at being a reader that's what i here it's a moving on from one giant company another i get this has to and i think i know my feelings about apple i don't hide them but the fact that apple has issued a public apology now about maps to people is just to me that's a groundbreaking i mean it's amazing and i've heard the bloggers to say that apple's been sending out customer satisfaction surveys to people and asking what kind of service do you like what would you like to see and this is of this is kind of the first time that the apple you know since the remerge of steve jobs and the and the rebuilding of apple we've seen a little bit of a crack or a little bit of just bringing commonality to to the service and i just amaze me and also to know are you guys really upset that paying also shut down yesterday which you know yeah which and it's funny that a lot of a lot of the tech bloggers have talked about that apple is phenomenal at hardware they're phenomenal at software but they just cannot be on i tunes cannot do this internet service stuff well and paying being on another failure along with a couple other small ones that have happened but for those don't know paying was a music streaming service basically that apple was promoting say about that story but i think it's i think it's a huge mistake on the part of apple because they are known to be this juggernaut that is infallible and they are coming out and saying that we made a mistake versus i mean everybody knows that it's not what it was claimed to be but they're coming out and officially saying that we understand that it's not as well as they weren't losing customers because of their maps service is this is this is something if i was if i was a competitor of those google or if i was samsung or something like that i would run with this i would have my next ad campaign based on this just because i don't think the average user or person even knows they've issued this apology for their  matches whereas the people that know about are the people that are you know have to tell them that they missed apple's tremendous missteps now with steve jobs and there i think the last launch of this i phone was a ho hum and we talked about that on the last show i think the google maps apology it's really dictating to who is at the wheel or more importantly who is not there so much pressure now to keep up that pace and frankly they shouldn't but when they get into a decision like that they should not announce that misstep that that is admitting that failure whereas if they'd done one of two things either gone around it and said well we're now making google maps available but better or something else i mean this is i'm paralleling this to that whole new google search engine that iran just set up to block all of google and then two days later coming back and say oh snap all of our just you too dang it i mean it's a catastrophic failure when you admit something like that and that's a big step well i think the problem for for apple right now it's hard to talk about you know done you could have kept apple maps going and left google maps and just kind of let and people understand it you know we're going to make apple maps better and better better as we go as opposed to just completely you know when they sever the ton of that that there are that's goes along with apology they're coming out and saying this is better that's why this is on the device not this is better because we made it when you talk about off camera friesian it has today changed the web site that they want from calling apple gets the most is something like the most powerful map service and i was just saying take a different turn in a different direction but we were all right so that's i guess i guess it's something as simple as that or first off coating it is the most powerful when i don't know who i really believe that was it was kind of an arrogant thing going along the battles marketing but they backed themselves into a corner with that the amazon paper white come came out yesterday began shipping yesterday they reviews that i've seen have been absolutely phenomenal on this thing i mean it's under one thousand bucks with the if you do ads with ads and just the  five basically that the big the big thing is touting that it's late and you can actually read in the dark i'm guessing a lot of people i'm guessing eye doctors are real happy about that but also this is a huge demand for people that couldn't read their kind idea it doesn't seem like a jumping through hoops kind of thing that sort of seems like the next new day try this out amazon seems to be good right now at least the catering to a few a few different markets sure for them and you know they could just come out with one ki say ok we've got this got a budget version we've got this one that's really good at doing just the reading that one that's more like a tablet kind of environment and fire h d let's talk keep moving along  entreprise school it was in slightly less limited release this past weekend was now and one hundred two theaters i believe fresh thirteenth for the weekend with a one point one million dollars which e hundred theater release behind pitch perfect which is getting a nominal reviews which i guess it's kind of attracting the glee quickly it's the and then of course the number one movie of the past weekend which also had want to highest per theater was hotel transylvania forty million dollars the other top five were looper was number two end of watch trouble the curve and house at the end of the street and still those three end of watch trouble with the curve in ho boy is also in there which is a huge cast in it and v h s which was one there and i watched it it's another one of the found footage but the probably the big release beyond taken two is frank using the medium like like a movie came where it was very you can actually see this week and we have special effects we can do all this kind of stuff and then it just sort of brings those kind of her stories and i like that a lot like the emmys want to i love it would i just i think it's  think it's more of an actor role versus versus a film like you can see performances versus a movie out of it in that movie where should i go here with this nightmare before christmas i think ht i made in my mind was the original batman sixty series that advancements they made to that of the same as the ones made between the eighty nine one and the new retread mean it is not age i think this may be a misstep in him but i think you go a very wrong way going up against a couple of films even if it's something that's better i think this he may have this in this show i've got to be on something else and listen lee has ownership of that so you do have to have multiples right now yeah there's room because everyone's being too close with their cards they're going to get to a point where the margins become smaller and smaller and you have   m serious kind of mash up and you love one thing all together but no one will care by that point because it's sort of obscured itself away again i mean it's there's too much too there's profit there but they're splitting into many ways