court made is that it completely disregards the level of skill in the art as well as the ordinary creativity and knowledge that comes with a level of skill in the art in failing to properly consider the level of point about whether it was error to insist on starting with aquino and looking to see whether you would combine it with something else and a separate argument about where the board contrary to the proper analysis which consumer did united instead of rigidly trying to combine structures and possibly incorporating one structure into another structure it should have considered par for everything that she just reviewed the prior art get an understanding for what it teaches and then reach a conclusion about what is obvious if you look at his teachings the  situation the person the film the art is not going to be limited to the express structure disclosed and what what would be interesting is if somebody were looking at a casino and saying i can move the panels get them out of the way on the site why would it occur to somebody and say there's something less than satisfactory about that it would be better to store them up above and they can imagine why but i think being being curious the record actually s slightly different things here one is there are two well known options for where to store as long as both are well known that it's obvious to choose one or two or the other the other is slightly more tied to the particular quote from k s are you relying on which talks about a market demand or market need and then a very limited number of options and i'm trying to figure out if that quote in particular is a market demand a market need the appliance here that would seem to me to have something to do with looking at a casino at the site storage and saying i'm at least for some uses out there that's less than ideal and maybe it's because space on the side is more valuable than space up the roof but i looked at least to see if somebody said space on the side is more valuable than space on the roof and so there are reasons to try to use the less valuable space so well known why wasn't there a lot of public use and on sale prior art no record well that this company doesn't and that company does business already been done all these references you why isn't there plenty of evidence of it on sale in the public documents of printed records of old heads storage units on the ceiling th further along with a reexamination we found one example from the patent owner of a offer for sale we submitted that the patent office of the patent office or that it was too late in the game for rejection so there was some evidence of them but to seems to be significant that the closing declaration doesn't say the opposite i'm saying that someone skilled in the art was not known how to make this modification so i think the question is known as compared to how did you do it in hindsight  and have a solution why do you modify it to come up with a little different from the that's a different question as to the motivation i'm saying that there the evidence seems to me a hundred sputum that some of the skill in new york would have known how to do this that the mechanical is the only comparison here the motivation to do i think the question is what is the rationale we know from cases are that we don't explicit motivation and you know fredricka the answer my question is are we dealing here soley with the question of motivation  referring to the last sentence of the something in the pattern where you say this is actually going to minimize for and have a clear and that is it is a way  the question seems to be would that person have been motivated to do and again i agree with that statement if there's there's nothing in the record so why don't we do the decorations we're looking to randall's the third party request or after f g images claims they put it on paper and they mentioned some of this art in the examiner looked at that part of the examiner made the bets rejection that she thought he spun that  say is that the priority shows that the predominant release the common method of storage was over his story and why is that in an of itself probably the motivation to do over his s if we disagree with you as to the result in this case what is the proper thing for this court to do this