accept his denials they confronted him with fabricated evidence including that is no mother was not supporting his alibi about twenty one pages in his first statement whenever said he wanted his mother brought it to the interview room to prorated story they told him his breaks when he's sitting there and given a chance to collect to start this person who is the only person who is allowed to be with him he's not allowed the presence of his parents which raises assumption that as to his will was overboard and this is the person who's supposed to be helping him and he says things to him like police just asking for you to be straight up he's not saying you pull the trigger but he's stating you have some involvement and that's he's not saying you were at the house but you're more just put this on a detective show it's not going to tell you she talked to me twenty to three guests but if i can just ask when you're on the point of this mother isn't it a fact that she would have been an alibi witness and didn't give the police reason enough not to and none of this exists here and if you're saying that a juvenile things parents can possibly corroborate where he is can be not allowed in to see the sister child an interrogation basically what we're saying is  wherever it gets the parents to make sure this will balance assuming any parent could potentially be asked was johnny home the night of the incident to be excluded from the interrogation room or even basically excluding all parents who are actively involved in their children's lives and we would be leaving all the children at the mercy of a juvenile advocate who may do nothing to affirm the person affirmatively protect their rights or in this case could even help assist the case the police in obtaining the confession contradicted your story and left you here with us it's not simply that he was denied the presence of his mother they were able to use the absence of his mother his mother who wanted to be there with him to tell him that she had abandoned him and would not support his story how can men not over bear his and every time the other officer in the room his juvenile advocate continues to work on him you need to change your story we don't think what you make of the question of david go to my client at all i care i has a very strong concerns about david and since i can't reach it i actually have a standing the only thing i can do is raise it is an issue of reasonable doubt but if you read through david statement that you are sorry if you re friend now whom would be lonely with who would he be working with on this what do you do you think they'd be driving they continually feed him the details and i do think that the most critical detail when you watch and you read and he was pronounced dead by three thirty so even if you look at david statement which is basically just reiterating about much facts are fed to him he manages to get one very critical fact dead wrong because rene soldano would have been already pronounced dead by the time edgar left that basement so i don't give david statement any credence they worked on him the same way they worked on it because you can help your friend you are the only you we need you to help your friend you being silent is not helping your friend you need to help edgar and they continue to work on him and again i can only reach that is reasonable doubt and i hope that you look at that carefully and that you look at the way we spread information when he gave the statement the statement they took from david as the leader of the time that they took  o'clock at the bowling alley and brought in they questioned him until two forty five to fifteen hours before he died and then eggers question again so he was there earlier in the night they were questioning david at the time they went out to the sanchez home and arrest the what you're talking about is the frustration of that sort of contact but in the context of what the concerned adult factors are really concerned about is the defendant the accused are inserted the su anything abusive to the suspects physically or any any sort of like coercion like that so essentially he was doing his job as a profile of me throughout th the parents or for example requesting to see him in the police or turning them away for if that's what happened and the defendant isn't aware that how was that coercing to defend it who the only thing from his perspective was he understands well it depends on what the she says understanding of the facts are at the time and if there is a mistake in the facts essentially is the question then becomes the police had it in probability nation they're attempting it is the question to be does do that is nothing constitutional requirement in order for a voluntary confession to be admitted that's the issue here is this confession coerced visit voluntary under the constitution or in one of the factors to determine s that's why i confessed it's not because of any of the other arguments being raised by the defendant so you forget about everything that's happened prior to that to before he's put in the cell that you believe had no effect on you it's not him and frightened him because that detail should made him believe that other people were talking against him headman doesn't been picked up yet i'm not sure about that your honor there's very little about him in the in the record except for the fact that eventually dropped all charges against him and he was never charged  jesus but there's three paragraphs right at the end that are very relevant and sure and this effect lee says were to the point never the clock is ticking they need to make a decision on what you're going to do with the rest of your life put the truth on the table you've investigation around show the people your family your little brother's show them show them when you step on it tell the truth good things happen yes he really should and they started out saying course of tactics and they kept