you take us through the presiding judge has any objection to approach each provide simultaneous briefing within seven days on your view of how the impacts of a decision in this case of it relates to the carpenter issue absolutely  and it would be a productive use of the court's time this morning to address the issues other than the ip address information which is what i understand but it deals with we can we can certainly too bad there's a cartridge or issue in this case related to the uploading of images to a file hosting not do was to carve out a narrow exception for cell said location information it refused to exist stand in now almost fifty year old darkroom in the writing of its potential consequences in the digital age in this expectation of privacy and if there is doubts about whether google can do you read i would have sounded good to the defense counsel to pursue that so i think the record below ordinary person searching so google has access to my g mail correct but you can do a google search and get my email i who every cloud service provider that anyone knows of and uses including dissing a more aggressive language about what these companies can do with the content that you store to google to yahoo to to dropbox so the contrary to our terms of service or legal or inappropriate we can report you means you no longer having a reason like to share privacy i think that's going too far in the world we live in and i think that i'm in a moment you have a diminished expectation of privacy but it certainly wouldn't there is any age at which it would be fine not to have the image so long as the person represents the age because the age is just implausible that they would be that off i just return to my question do you have anything that will help me  case that i could analogize to where the nature of the representation is that it's not enough for me to just trust world no we don't require factual support for representations an affidavit you make the person he said was four i would assume he would say there's probable cause you can rely on that representation well this is a good question what would be a case that i could rely on if i wanted to say you were right and that would help theoretical possibility that everybody on earth could see it but since it's really only a theoretical possibility in a sense it's been disclosed to us from my body the thing that's disclosed for certainty to a small number of  you're going back to the standard problem as opposed to the question where there is any possible privacy interests  use office or is providing information from a source a person in the community and just enter share information into a computer no nothing else but down and if it is because it is a readily available how can we say that that is crying that in the fourth amendment context when that person has an objective expectation of privacy is it true of the password that's a hard question of the data but you l which is justice what does it mean to say publicly that you or anybody can type it and that's why that's why the internet searches to pick this up and type it into our computer an where you go to get that thing is public or private so you can hammer ignore all and still need in good faith effort as a law enforcement officer to determine whether it's in a private album for example whether it's behind a password protection whether it's on a site which does reflect some kind of the first amendment permits some degree of public is accessibility some degree of sharing some degree of exposure to the outside world as long as it's not only exposed to the public