did let me say how helpful all of your testimony has been you have reinforced a lot of what the postal service itself has said and i want to say to you mister rolando i have walked with my letter carrier he is an indispensable party to the american people far beyond delivering the mail there are people who have nobody but a letter carrier to speak to every day particularly the elderly they greet him at the door even if they have a walker own thinking certainly i am well aware of what collective bargaining does for those in  trouble there is nothing more valuable than to have the cooperation of level headed unions when you have got to manage a downsizing of any dealing so i congratulate you i know the sacrifices you have made and you don't see the postal workers out here screaming and hollering because they believe fairness has been accorded because it has been bargained so i agree with your testimony don't tamper with collective bargaining if you really want to mess up this situation just mess with collective bargaining now saturday delivery i read your testimony on saturday delivery i want to know is it subject to savings the thing that has made me interested in saturday delivery is this overwhelming number of americans seventy five eighty percent say okay if that is what you have to do that is what you can do but you make a pretty compelling case not simply about inconvenience to people i understand that people of course in hard times have to take that but loss of business that bothers me what do you mean about the loss of business who will get that business if saturday delivery in those locations and let's assume we had in my hypothetical no saturday delivery in just some locations but some you did have it in any case where would the business go to and what would that mean for future business for the postal service mister rolando first if i could i would like to just comment on the seventy five to enterprise so go ahead so that takes care of the question now what about the loss of business who would get the business mister rolando well there is always going to be a need for delivery on saturday we talked about prescription drugs and  business it would affect the growing part of the business which is people shopping online and parcel delivery when people are home on saturday it is just not a good idea where there are a lot of innovative things ms norton let me ask you one more question then  compensation which we certainly are willing to look at the important thing is that we don't punish our employees who are injured on the job and that we treat them fairly ms norton and there was some concern that these workers had no intention of coming back to work now  i know the retirement age is fifty five but somebody fifty five these days better come back to work if you possibly can mister rolando sure ms norton i wonder if the union will take a close look at that because it will not sound good to the american people if norton in light of no other members here to inquire and us about ready to go in for another vote here we are going to adjourn i want to thank the gentlemen of our second panel and appreciate you all being here taking time out of your schedule we have just scratched the surface and look forward to working with you all on this issue thank you all very much and have a good day