needs to be bad both in the residual functional capacity and in the hypothetical to a vocational expert that you think would comply with moderate limitations and concentration a history tutor in college no one cares what you argue or mean it's how well you do it you can have you can have the most absurd comment in history or any social science as long impairments in the hypothetical question sullivan from the supreme court indicates that the hypothetical question is to be individualized per claimant and they're not in fact job but you might not stick with it anyway you might you know want for a twenty minute break because you are bored or or you can't stick with it somehow you've got some mental you have to count for that somehow so it's an easy job maybe you know you account for it i really would love to get some clarity on this because it happened so much but if you lose your concentration maybe you need a certain type of supervision or exactly you know if a person has lost his of concentration what impact would that have on dropped when does concentration or loss of concentration become problematic and even then it's important to and you can add it i can tell you right now for fact if you're limited to sedentary work and you're precluded from having more than a casual contact with the public and coworkers there are almost no jobs you can perform very moderate limitation on human contact because most jobs are sudden terry require some element of customer service sault that's what we're talking about as far as how exactly  you have to address it and that may be the best way of doing it again though the ultimate conclusion is that the l g a have to actually explain how they came up with it there's a reason why this court is used the language build a bridge between the findings and the evidence and that's what we're talking about there's just nothing here to explain how they go through point  paragraph it also said and limitations inability to maintain concentration persistence and pace if somehow that was indicated that the a time or benefits were terminated had her condition prove it doesn't appear to be in fact there was a period of time two thousand and nine ten eleven where she was getting on behalf of the acting commissioner of social security appellate talked a bit about our case and questions asked in other cases about things that happened in other cases but every disability africa is decided on and if you look at the residual functional capacity i see nothing that picks up those kinds of limitations and you can't ask her vocation expert to come up with jobs when you haven't fully informed the vocational expert of the types of limitations as you rightly say that individual have and your honor in this case the gate did inform the vocational concentration persistence and pace but seems to think after we get past the stripping and crouching and all of that stuff that everybody always puts in seems to think simple routine repetitive tasks in a low stress job occasional interaction with the public and coworkers no peace worker simply line off task ten percent seems to think that captures it and i don't see it i don't see where concentration for example is is reflected in this it can be as routine as can be but if you drink you are tried working with a two year old i mean that they have no concentration abilities either and i have very simple tasks but wander off and do something else exactly and i'm glad you brought up that point so concentration persistence and pace does it we can all agree it depends on what you're doing and what environment you're doing you know i don't know that we all agree with that or not if you have limitations in your ability to concentrate then those limitations are logically a different impairment and whether it's a complex job where the you regard it as  loses their concentration they can't keep going you posted another way in another case where you said what about a person who's tasked with taking a nail and putting it back and their difficulties with concentration caused such problems that they can't do it for more than five minutes they get distracted to get up task as you said during appellant's argument you know after twenty minutes or they need to take a twenty minute break they have to stop what we need to understand is such an individual has marked limitations and concentration persistence or pace not moderate and we know that because of the regulations so if an individual cannot complete simple tasks without undue interruptions  distractions they have marked limitations if an individual cannot complete simple tasks without extra supervision extra supervision or assistance they have marked limitations but they put moderate limitations are limitations certainly certainly but to suggest they're very thin mild and so i don't see where even a moderate level of problem with concentrating is reflected in  be it state agency psychologist and let me speak again with before i get to that answer the word concentration does not appear we agree it's not in there but the no i don't work nor is a synonym for a set of restrictions that would address i mean i'm not going to worry about whether it's concentration persistence or pace although it does seem that that might be the easiest way to get around this repetitive problem we have in these cases right but in telling a vocational expert factually certainly but it's also important to understand that these limitations are moderate and not marked in the regulation i was talking about but i'm worried that you're not giving any room for the moderate limitation if you're putting them all of the nonexistent or mild level and certainly that's not what the agency is intending to do the agency is asking experts to look at the record and say this person has moderate limitations what can they still concept in the residual functional capacity that's what we're talking about and then of course there's the question a hypothetical question just repeats the r f c basically ok i'm the person with the following aren't because it would be in any work in the national economy certainly it would be inappropriate to have limitations in addition to well the l j found in the residual functional capacity but what i'm trying to communicate perhaps in artfully is that the agency  expert explain what functional limitations a person has with moderate limitations and concentration persistence or pace in this case with these records and that individual dr rosenfeld  be even if she had only begun to see dr dennis during phase two so to speak there's more than a year of of treatment i i don't quite understand how she regards everything or i absolutely do not know how in this community that selective use of the record can be where the other treatment providers were silent about how she presented rather they as the l she noted were contrary she was bright and cheerful she was wonderful she was pleasant she had a normal a