good evening my name is brittany carrier and we are reporting live on october fifteenth two thousand and thirteen from inside the belmont media center studio a we welcome you to tonight's coverage of election belmont where we will share today's primary election results as the votes come in and also discuss the merits of both the democratic and republican candidates for massachusetts fifth congressional seat ed mark oh state senator katherine clark state representative carl short teano lexington school committee member martin long and stone him resident paul john the three republicans in the race are boston attorney frank out of the low holliston resident michael stone and framing him veteran tom tierney whatever the results are there will be a new face in congress come january here to tell us more about the candidates is freelance reporter for the belmont citizen herald and ronald's good evening britney and thank you so much for having me big night here as the congressional elections taking place and it looks like we have a very crowded field no idea who is going to win but i think what we'll do is go through each candidate will talk about who should win who will win and if that person wins what will be the toughest question they would get in a debate first let's take a look at the republicans there's three this time longtime candidate tom tierney new to the new to the race is scientists mike stone and business man frank i think both evan delegates and stop it could pull this off here any running for too many things too many times i think people are tired of seems name because he never wins stopa has going for him the endorsement from former senator cut out for him as this particular district the fifth congressional voted for obama thirty percent over romney in the two thousand and twelve election so so the democrats so the democrats despite that they were both running both paul masi out on martin long didn't do a whole lot of campaigning so in the interest of time i think we'll leave them out i'm going to go with the least amount of votes will go for carl scior tino he's a state rep from the somerville medford area an office that he squeaked in to when he originally ran for that for that office despite a great ad between himself and his father i really think that he made a mistake of leaving out the rest of the district when he was doing his campaigning seem to focus a little bit more on maybe the people of medford but nowhere else next up the ladder for the least amount of votes i'm going to go with karen still a sixty year old state senator from ashland which is due south of the district now spoke up became a darling of the conservative talk radio here in the boston area for voting not once not twice not five but six times for that tech tax that was eventually repealed for some reason nobody counted brownsburg votes but karen's book was really made fun of too on a lot of different areas for that vote so i don't think she's going to do too well next we have the three front runners who i believe will be the sheriff peter could choose ian katherine clark and we'll brownsburg so of the three front runners are really not sure who's going to win but i will go through a little bit of some interactions that britney and i actually had with two of the candidates being out about doing a local show here for the belmont media we ran into both the brownsburg campaign and peter sheriff and how he felt about them and it turned into a campaign speech both britney and i are a little surprised that he wasn't supporting our police officer but that's ok i think he has a very strong canada sea especially in the town of wall fam and the town of watertown both big towns he's got a lot of support in the town of watertown you can't go anywhere over there without seeing signs for him but whether they'll all come out to vote we still don't know i guess we will find out soon catherine clark next who had the endorsement from the boston globe is certainly a front runner for sure she's loved from what we understand in her home district of melrose where it that that district is surrounded by wi towns that could go to the polls she's a strong candidate she's got a great background with a lot of public service and is ready in my opinion for the leap to washington probably more than either one of the other two front runners or the front runners as i see she is a should win and i think that she will win and my biggest question for her would be that she's not from massachusetts although as we know that really hasn't stopped too many other candidates around here my question for the share contusion is that a couple things first of all in his campaign it's literature yet a typo which is very surprising he also turns everything into kind of buzzwords gun control green energy blah blah blah i'm sure if we asked him to go a little deeper let's hear it have the right things to say so i might be tough for him last about these is our state senator will brownsburg now is the belmont resident i've seen will be not only  selectmen our state rep and then our state senator will is a really good guy and as a local reporter i've certainly followed him quite a bit i think he's the only one in the race that is saying the right things he's saying he's going to go to washington we're talking going to washington we're not talking about beacon hill where things are a lot different that's not you're not in kansas anymore well but he's saying the right things he's saying he wants to reach across the aisle he's saying a lot of people responsible for problems to get a broader view but as the globe benson will be the kind of guy who if he's new to the new high school kid he'd be the guy that would sit back and quietly take everything in before it make a move a position i think would be very strong especially for congressm he's going to a congress that is run by the republicans democrats are the minority and make no mistake britney if this was a contested see that was going to make a difference and washington we'd be hearing a lot more about the selection but sense of the democratic it's going to go to a democrat today on boston herald radio joe battlefield came out and said he was going to predict that a liberal democrat would win tonight so that doesn't say a shocking shocking right so i think it will should bit soft on crime he seems to think that the three offense rule needs to be thrown out i'm not sure nationally if that would really play he also is against military spending now i consider that the united states is still in a war i don't think that that would work well nationally maybe that works well around here i don't think that plays of the national audience i also think and more than anything that he was for the bombing in syria before he was against the bombing in syria because i think he was trying to see where his party was going to go i was the mother of a nineteen year old son i was completely against syria of course will has three girls so he probably didn't really matter as much as the madam met some other moms around here another tough question for him i biggest question for will would be if i was in a debate with him was in the town of watertown which is in his district went through a tragic event last year during the lockdown after the boston marathon  bombing britney and i both know we met with a lot of people we did a show about them there was a lot of pain still going on there four months later there was a lot of people saying they wish more people would help them everyone that we spoke to in the show we said did anyone from the government reach out you and they all said no now will it was their state senator if i was their state senator i would have been over there the next day i would have been in the downtown i would have been in the dunkin donuts i would have been saying how are you doing how are you feeling is everything i think we can do can we help these kids can we help these people are really traumatic event that no one including all the way up to our senators paid any attention to what's really surprised me so the other thing the other problem i had w well again great news you can remember because we also saw their campaign quite a bit during the clinton aires was will seem to think that they have this wrapped up not only himself but his campaign people seem to think that they had the election and maybe they do i don't know we'll find out soon but sometimes that can be a little off putting for people who are watching from a distance i found out a little odd that they weren't completely sure they're going to when i've got a robo call from his campaign today that said please get out and vote because even though people are saying i have it i need you to go out and vote not sure that that plays well either but again will i think is a should when i don't know if you will win but i think again that that moderate i'm going to go down and see what this is all about and figure it out i did asked will as a reporter if you did win would you move and he said no i think it's important to represent your community by living in website peter contusion is in the lead with thirty nine percent of the votes and katherine clarkson such as well will is in fourth place these are karen so at least our predictions of who would get the least votes are correct so with that i think i will go right back to brittany thank you for your honesty and i appreciate it the next we're going to bring two more guests on trish lo march chairwoman of the months democratic town committee and elizabeth mahoney republican state committee woman from  can work across the aisle as they say and i think the i'm hoping with the gridlock people will be paying more attention i'm hoping the voter turnout will be better with this election i was actually wondering how the stalemate in d c would affect this election do you think it has any effect on it it depends upon who ultimately takes the seat away i know i'm not familiar with republicans but i know the democrats there have there are those who are adamant about quote unquote not compromising their principles they're not going to come you know they're not going to back down from a fight and there are others who are more let's see what we can do you get the gridlock done and do something about it thank you do you think the unusually high number of elections this year has had any effect on voter turnout i think it probably has i think there's some sense of voter fatigue out there we've had a lot of elections between the special senate election last were coming off of two thousand and twelve of course where we had a whole range of races up and down the ticket and then we had the special senate election now we have this there's also just sort of in the news the mayor's election in boston is going on there are some other special auctions going on across the state i think people are feeling a little bit of fatigue which i think is an unfortunate because every election as drew said is very important and it matters who we send you there to beacon hill or to capitol hill and i would hope that voters will still take a look at all the candidates and even if it's getting a bit many elections going on that they'll still take the time to learn a little bit about the candidates whoever they end up voting for and come out and vote because it does matter who our elected representatives are and you were talking before about the importance of primary elections can can you talk more about that well not so much the well obviously the porton but i think what you might be referring to and elizabeth seem to agree with this is that the primaries often bring out those people kind of on the fringes not the fringes but in the case of the democrats tend to take people who are more liberal in the case of the republicans more to the right and then so that influences who the candidate will be but in the general election most people are looking for somebody kind of right in the middle so it's i think what we've got seven candidates although kind of a spectrum there and i don't know with the republicans it's the same thing a little bit yes i'd say there are two that are we have three candidates two or more to the right one actually who is fairly to the center which actually has been caused some interesting discussion amongst  republican primary voters because you know they do want somebody who espouses republican principles and values and so there has been one candidate tom tierney who doesn't seem quite to fall in line with what many republican primary voter see as republican principles so there's some very interesting discussions been going on on our side as we get ready for this primary so we'll see who ultimately is is triumphant today and can you tell us more about the principles of of these particular republican sure i think the messages that they've been talking about is in washington having fiscal responsibility having a balanced budget you know being good stewards of the taxpayers money  obviously everything that's going on in d c the gridlock has certainly colored the whole conversation i think on both sides in both primaries so talking about how you can be productive in d c while still holding true to your principles of trying to make sure that we are being responsible taxpayer money not spending more than we have but also keeping going those programs which all of us agree are very important such as social security medicare and and some sort of health care care program whatever form that ends up taking so it's sort of how do we how do we balance that and so that's a discussion that's been going on at least on our side amongst our our candidates and i imagine will then go into the general election will be a very much a topic of conversation thank you can you tell me about the principles of the democratic candidates democrats don't have any princip and no no i'm the more progressive so you know because we have a number of different candidates and right they do they are just like republicans do in where they stand on some issues some things they're all alike but on other issues they do vary so i don't know if there's a general principle that i would say unites all of them i mean we democrats do tend to be has been so low for this reason i think actually i think it's because the of the five major candidate other than peter katyusha and they are all local i mean will's well known here in arlington watertown but probably not well known in ashland for example where terrence bilk is from and so the geography is such that they each kind of have their own little area where they're well known and probably mostly candidates are concentrating on that area where they're well known to get out the vote as opposed to to try generate a lot of recognition in cities or towns that are really familiar with them right ok i think you know who do you think is the hardest candidate to be and why for on the democratic side both sides oh ok you know that's a great question i am not sure you know as we were saying i think i actually think we'll brownsburg would be a strong candidate in the general because as we were talking about earlier as and was talking about i think when you get to the general the idea of working across the aisle and expressing your willingness to work with the other party will play well i don't know how well it's been plain amongst the democratic primary voters but i think that is a message that would carry well in the  general on the republican side i think we have i think we have strong candidates they have different backgrounds and none of them are elected official so i think that will sort of be an interesting contrast with whoever the democratic nominee is because they are all elected officials of some sort of another so we will have a candidate on the republican side who comes from the private sector rather than the public sector so i think that will be an interesting contrast whichever the nominee is on either side so do you think people will stick with a democrat for the selection or do they want to see change i think we certainly have an uphill battle as republicans in this race those we tend to in most races in massachusetts i think voters might be willing as we said you know with everything else going on d c i think they might be willing to listen to the idea of sending a fresh perspective to washington the fact that we have entire democratic representation in our delegation to to d c when the house is controlled by republicans and it doesn't seem like that's going to change i think there's an argument to be made that we should have some more diversity of representation in our massachusetts delegation because if we're all from if all of the representatives are from one party they might not be able to be as effective as if we have at least one representative who is from the other party and can then help work across the aisle you know bring both parties together right and then in mass the one party rule is pretty big here do you have any concerns that it divides massachusetts or do you think it helps what do you mean divide just in terms of the one party rule is is it a does it help massachusetts in terms of getting things done or seeing results or is it a dividing factor certainly i would argue that it's maybe not always to our benefit of course you know when we had somebody like ted kennedy in washington always i was you know very much an argument that that people would make and it you know it had some merit that when you have somebody who has that much clout in washington that's good for our state of course have some a lot of fresh new representatives down in d c from our state you know i would argue that whichever party it is it's not healthy for our democracy to have one party completely in control because i think it's important to have both voices to have two parties that there's some give and take there's some debate about the issues because i think we all sort of lose when it's just one party there's no sort of other argument being nader or check and balance so you know i probably i would i would like to say i would say the same thing if it was all republicans that i would say be important for democratic representatives again they come from a whole spectrum of attitudes backgrounds one example i found out last year is pro choice ok that's generally assumed to be the democratic position on  reproductive rights is pro choice however in our legislature at least last year the the pro choice majority was very very narrow so to me that was representative just how even among suggest the clouds they could vary a lot ideologically and i think that speaks to how you know how many democrats there are in the state how broad the democratic party is that you yeah i think nationally you will see a lot of diversity it's probably not like it is in some other states where there's sort of very rigid idea of what democrats are i think you do see a broad range that's good so we w c v just reported that peter and katherine clark are tied with twenty five percent of the votes in for the republican frank took forty eight percent what percentage of the it have you read the emerson college poll survey released this past friday that puts katherine clark in the lead do you think she'll come out on top of her front runner as and put her before she's definitely a front runner yeah definitely a front runner for many different reasons ok doris meant as an mentioned from the globe helped a lot i'm always list came out supporting her early and they've got so a lot of money a lot of clout there are a number of people who would like to see a woman as a representative and so she's definitely definitely from gray thank you  it was interesting because peter could last on this emerson's poll survey do you think it has anything to do with his his n r a rating or matching up with  massachusetts view on gun control you know i don't know actually i think it's surprising to see him coming in last because i think he has as we were talking about you know probably is the best known of the candidate just because he has a larger district as an elected official so i think that's kind of surprising you know i don't really know what might be influencing that i think as we were talking about there's a sort of a broad range of the democratic side as far as their positions on issues and actually other than the debate the televised debate the other week i think that's the only time i've heard any reference to the n r a and peter so what has been at least from what i've seen yeah you have seen i saw it in the debate as well ok but i haven't seen anybody take advantage of that fact in terms of a melena or an e mail highlighted now so i don't know i don't know just how will gather information has been disseminated right thank you  we have numbers for the republican belmont just waiting to hear back from my director here live breaking news but it's not breaking  and here is for democrats william brownsburg three thousand five hundred eighty six votes katherine clark five hundred sixty five and peter got nine hundred and this is also just for about a month surprised to see that time tierney had so many votes here he's from framingham and sort of his when he's run in the past this hit reference to his run a number of times sort of his his core votes tend to be around where he is in framingham so i'm sort of surprised to see here in belmont him getting quite that many votes it good to be the name recognition thing it could be yeah just that he's he's been on the ballot a number of times so people check that off although you you would think that people who are coming out on a special action primary would be coming for a particular candidate and not deciding when they get in there but who knows right so what are the next steps for the candidate that winds probably get a good night's sleep had  you know you jump right right into the general election it's just two months away and you know there's it's i know a lot of people have said well whoever the democrats elect in the primary is going to win the election i think personally we learned our lesson with martha coakley and so i don't think anybody any of the candidates are going to take it for granted and i think you're going to see them out there campaigning starting f and i think that's i think that's right and i think it's good i think it is obviously the republican will be at a bit of a disadvantage but i hope both candidates will be out there working hard until the general election and hopefully we'll get more people to turn out for the general election and come out and vote and actually pay attention to the race you know hopefully they'll be some more news coverage of the race at least one debate you know televised you know it should be good because it's so hard i think especially with these special elections for people to for news about these elections to filter through all of the other things going on and so the more that the the race can permeate and people can can see information about it i think is better because then hopefully they'll come out and vote and learn about the candidates which will be good i do think it has been i don't know who mentioned earlier i do think it has been somewhat overshadowed by the mayor always said boston you know you go to the metro section of the globe and you see walsh and connally appear and then down below the fold there is some comment about the congressional district so that's and that battle will continue at least through the middle of november when november fifteenth you know first week of november or so and then i guess this race will get a month all to itself well we have an update we have brownsburg are at his headquarters doing a speech so let's take a look at that the democratic town committee and the republican committee as well whether or not we basically spot people in terms of giving them money for their campaign and the answer is no  it's more with the smaller elections it's more about contact with people and as opposed to long science and certainly you don't do t v ads and such so it doesn't take a lot of money to run it takes a lot of time a lot of effort but at least said that in the smaller races to the money i don't know about the yeah i think that's probably right i think the further up the ticket you go the more important i either you know whether you have your own money or whether you have the capability to really raise a lot of money because it takes a lot more money and i do think there's some incumbent in vantage there for people who are in office it's you know they have more of an opportunity to raise funds you know between election cycles but ethyl the lower down the ticket you go state rep offices like that it's so much more about getting in front of voters and shaking hands and knocking on doors and talking just to just as many people as possible because i think at the local level that carries a lot of weight for people if they've actually met a candidate they've taken the to the candidate has taken the time to listen to them to hear what they have to say to answer their questions i think they're probably going to be more likely to then go out and vote for them so yeah at the lower levels it's  a lot about just putting in that time and that effort and really working really hard at it do you think that candidates here that the least the democratic or even the republican candidates today make that  for from what i've seen it seems like all these candidates are really sort of the top tier candidates that have run in this race have been out there working hard you know you definitely get the sense that they're going to town committee meetings they're going to parades they're going to all sorts of public events i think both the broncos and the democrats have been have been doing that have really been about have been out there working hard so well might not have been always making it into the news i think they've been behind the scenes for the most i would i would think if i was running i would go to the area that would be the most different than i am because when you look at belmont versus burn versus the verses on our western versus revere we're talking about a very wide dynamic of people i mean is that a smart move i would if it was me i would go to the area where i would be least likely to be known or have something in common with somebody and go up there and say hey  how we do it what's happened here but you think in a primary that's not because you need people to come out you need people to come out and again a primary of this size there was we were talking about earlier other than peter to choose and there's really none of the candidates who are now well or have a means by which we know well throughout the district primary we don't have numbers yet as far as what the churn out is we do have an update katherine clarke is in and i mentioned this to britney before i again we had a number of times we actually met him and his staff why they were on the campaign trail but somebody said something about how he looked the part which i think i bizarre i too would love to see a woman in there too although i believe the congress was a lot more diverse than it was like when i was a child which is great you know women definitely come with what i think is a great perspective they're also better at negotiating and handling a number of different things i'm sure you know all of us know i do a million things at once i'm like an octopus so i think that but you know he again the other thing that i have to ask you do you see th thing i noticed about him was different too was when you looked at the signs there's no website i remember at one point when we saw them you know i mentioned that to them they said oh no it's right here it's right here but when you see all the signs around and there were a lot of these numbers are from right and you know jab spill suddenly jump or maybe that's all the ashleigh and all that so it's interesting to hear the numbers but unless we know where they're coming from it's kind of to me there working really hard getting getting meeting with people meeting town committees meeting activists meeting everybody getting out there and then out of nowhere tom tierney won the primary so i think and he had not been campaigning at all so i think we're all feeling like one who knows what's going to happen then because this is what happens you know nobody really knows where the time to new base of support is so yeah i think everybody was very cautious about saying one way or the other you know and  open frank out of an all of sort of split the the majority of the republican party vote and then this sort of tyranny vote would you know would that he would win again so nobody really knows what happened on our side  republican numbers there they called it and it's frank he did ok forty seven percent wow good for frank he was so bad on the campaign trail and and his wife yes nice  and i think you know i think that's that's great obviously you know congratulations the other candidates as well but no i think frank will be a great candidate a sees a set a lot out on the trail one of the only candidates in the whole race who's actually created job so i think that will be something he'll be talking about a lot whoever the democratic nominee is of his experience in the private sector yeah i think you know i do a lot of things i think he could do to really challenge a democrat i think i agree with you that he's been in the drought a private sector and he knows how to create jobs he's actually a very educated got you've got a number of degrees and not only he's a likable nice guy all those good things but do you think there's a i love what you said about how we need some diversity especially in massachusetts i mean every one of our representatives in washington are democrats which is fine and that's people vote for but but as you if you were a manager of a company and you want and you had a problem and you wanted a solution now obviously the best managers and the people that picked the most diverse people to come up with their solutions and if you have everybody the same oh yeah you know everybody says the same thing everybody man or woman and you're not going to get the best answer what you want to people that will challenge you will challenge your answer will challenge what you need and then you maybe come up with a better solution i agree with you that i think there needs to be some more that so you know we'll see happens now brittany did ask you who would be the toughest candidate to beat in the election you said well brownsburg which i agree with you i think you would be tough because we're would bring out those under old voters that we talked about earlier that maybe not didn't go to the primaries but he does have that middle of the road thing that i thought was great i know that on some of the radio stations around town they said this is going to work against him i hate to think that's true well it's interesting because i've heard that too but you know in the primary for the democratic primary for senator there was marquis allege and lynch is definitely more conservative than markey it's not assist it was a runaway win for markey i mean what was it like fifty three to forty seven or something like that so there are and that was a primary there or more conservative democratic voters out there and i do think that i think there is that i think will did a good job very good job of getting his message out about how to be thoughtful yes and i know for me i don't want somebody who goes in and says i'm not going to budge this is the way i feel and democratic principles me to have been there you know what it's it's built on compromise i mean the whole government was designed that way i think will did a good job with that and one message that will hurt i wish had risen to more is about money in politics as far as we'll is the only candidate who did not take money from pads from you know it's funny because the democrats talk on the democratic side so i think i think will is absolutely right influence of money and you know action is where you too much and i think the fact that he didn't take the money and all those questionnaires you fill out for endorsements they're supposed to everybody keeps my secret well was posting them on his website what the questioner said and what is answers were and the point being you don't know what these candidates are promising or say no to do in order to get an endorsement and so you know of nothing else comes out of this campaign if will doesn't get the nomination big good to bad for massachusetts but i'm hoping that maybe it will start a to go either way yeah definitely in some parts of the district of a small amount as i mentioned he might come across as a good candidate i think a lot of i think sometimes people tend to forget there's other people in their district i've actually had t discuss with well that the amount of water time in his senate district don't match the rest of his senate it's a district it's almost if you said you know what doesn't match here you don't have to pull belmont because it doesn't really make sense to be with down way you know downtown and if you're going to heighten you're going to have really different people and you know will the belmont guy which is great but the whole world's not velma as i mentioned earlier but what's funny about woodburn which i was there today really surprised me i didn't see him anywhere and you know i'm always in the middle six district i go to all these towns all the time so and i course political junkie so i am watching what signs you write signs don't don't votes but they certainly give you an idea running not to mention you know on top of that you have some of these cities that are having municipal elections in november so you can drive through some of these places and you would see twelve different names as you're highly doubt i'm worried yeah exactly and so i think for voters it's fairly well who's running for what who evice that i gave him so that's good i'm happy for him i think i think i'll be a tough competitor yeah i also would add my congratulations to frank and to our other two republican candidates and i'm looking forward to to the general election i think we'll have a very good discussion about who we want to send down to d c what we want to what we want to accomplish down there and hopefully we'll get more people informed about the candidates and invested in this race and hopefully come out to vote in the general election in december sure will be right here well i will also congratulate fight and just say soon as we establish who the democratic candidate is going to be like the b will my name is brittany character and i would like to thank you for watching tonight's election belmont coverage here at the belmont media center i'd also like to that my guests and ronald's trish lamar and elizabeth mahoney for being on the show tonight congratulations to the winning candidates enjoy your night