good evening it is september seven and here we are gathered to do business for the city of holland we're glad to have you with us whether in person or on line or watching on your computer or on t welcome we'd like to start with the roll call please an city of highland will have an opening prayer and then a pledge of allegiance if you would please join me and stand at this time pray with me please our heavenly father you are the wonderful counselor the mighty guide the everlasting father the prince of peace we thank you that you are here tonight we pray that you will help us in whatever we do to glorify you deserve the people around us we thank you for these positions to serve you in this capacity with the city we pray that you will give us wisdom to make decisions that will be best for today and the future that we others will look back and say that was the right thing to do at that time we thank you lord for your direction and your love in our lives for the ability to celebrate labor day to celebrate the jobs and opportunities that you have provided in this amazingly successful area we also pray for those who haven't found the right job or a job or settled on a career or education we pray father that the myriad of nonprofits in this area those of us was compassionate kind hearts will come around to help in their search in may this be an area where we are characterized by love for one another we thank you for this evening and we pray this in your name we will now have the consented to and which means and i will read a list of items that will be passed by one motion as a black eye for the council but perhaps there is one of these items that you came tonight to speak about if that's the case well often up the floor and you may come forward and give us your name address and the item you would like remove from the consent of janda and we will handle it and in it sequence in the agenda so and if you could please give us the consent agenda item for b to approve the minutes of the regular meeting held aug seventeenth and study session held august twenty fourth two thousand and sixteen for c to accept in viral executed lots of office from various boards and commissions attorney for consideration twelve d to schedule a public hearing for september twenty one two thousand and sixteen to receive comments regarding a potential house moving group cost located at three sixty nine east six st to two forty ferr avenue subject to approval of certificate of insurance and to instruct the deputy clerk to mail appropriate notices within three hundred feet of the final destination twelve one point one two approve the bid from montgomery us competing in the amount of one hundred thirty two thousand three hundred sixty six for the two thousand and sixteen storm sewer repair project authorized the mayor and deputy clerk to execute the construction agreement subject to approval as to form by the city attorney item twelve two point one to schedule a public hearing on the consolidated in your performance evaluation report to the september twenty one two thousand and sixteen meeting to receive any comments as required by the u s department of housing and urban development item twelve two point two two approve  easement to allow portion of the upper floors of forty four west eighth street to pry out project onto the a street right away and to authorize the mayor and deputy clerk to sign a record set easement twelve easy for point one to accept the july two thousand and sixteen monthly financial report or submitted twelve four point two to approve the bid and purchase of a john deere gater from hooks inc at the cost of twelve thousand five hundred ninety eight dollars with funds to be paid by the centralized vehicle equipment fund twelve b five point one to approve a transfer of ownership of the retired canine henry to his handler officer joe slink and authorized mayor in deputy to sign said agreement item twelve east six point two a true proven agreement to accept a donation of the new parkland at the former washington school and authorize a mayor in deputy clerk to execute the agreement before the transfer of the property for a public park subject to approval as to form by the city attorney items twelve six point three six point four and six point five to schedule a public hearings of necessity for the downtown parking operations downtown principal principal shopping district and the downtown sonoma operations special to the september twenty one two thousand and sixteen meeting and item twelve east six point six two a point marine you're from the hound board of public works as employee delegate and as alternate employee delegate and jennifer army as office delegate and john hoffman is alternate office delegate to the mers employees retirement system in your meaning to be held at the green travers resort on september twenty eighth and twenty ninth two thousand and sixteen thank you and so perhaps one of those items was something close to your heart and you want to talk about it not have it passed with consent if that's the case please come to the podium give us your name and address and the item number that we could take off to handle in the sequence it's listed seeing none and any when i'm counseled like to take something off yes mike impasses thank you and now we're going on down to public comment and this is a time where anyone can talk about anything that is not listed as an item to cover in this meeting saw if you came here to speak about something close to your heart you're welcome to come to the podium give us your name address and he may talk for up to five minutes the green light is go the yellow light means one minute and the red light means five minutes is good evening my name is dan martin and i live at one three seven three three cottage drive in grand haven charter township and i'm running for the twentieth judicial circuit court judge i'm running because i want to use my gifts my talents and experience to serve the people of out of a county tree place the honorable ed post as he retires at the end of his term this year so i just one of the take a little bit of time and or do so myself more thoroughly than i did the last time i was here before the city council and explained to you what i mean by using my gifts my talents and experience to serve you and all of the people and residents of ottawa county to me gifts are things that are given to us not things that are earned so when i say i want to use my gifts what i'm talking about are my inherent personality traits my temperament and my demeanor very even keeled i treat people with respect and kindness my character and integrity i'm very honorable very fair very impartial i represent lots of boards and typically have the ability to work with both sides even when there are factions which we're seeing right now and in part township just a little bit north of here and then also my kindness and sensitivity and compassion i have a heart for justice it's just something that i was kind of born with and that compassion people have told me that i really need to emphasize donating a kidney to my cousin and i say what does that have to do with being a judge has to me nothing and people say to me no dan it talks about the kind of person that you are that compassionate sensitive side and so you do need to share that then talents talents or natural abilities and skills that we have that we're again kind of given that we need to develop otherwise we end up wasting them and so when i talk about talents i'm talking about communication skills not only written skills and oral communication but also the importance of listening one of the things that a judge really needs to do is listen well to often people listen with the intent to reply but judges really need to listen and hear both sides before making decisions also conflict resolution skills i've taught conflict resolution skills to both at risk children and adults and so i would be able to use my conflict resolution skills serving you as your circuit court judge and then finally the creative and analytical thinking skills that i've developed over time which kind of show that i have a  balance between the left brain and the right brain i do a lot of creative things like drawing poetry as well as the analytical thing of being a lawyer as your city attorney knows and then the experience both legal experience and personal community services well i have over twenty years of legal experience representing local units of government and school districts mostly here in ottawa county i've represented park township for a long time i previously represented how a charter township do a lot of work with the black river schools the holl public schools the west iowa public schools the outer area school districts many school districts throughout the county doing that has given me a well balanced well rounded legal experience it's allowed me to do everything i say from a to z americans with disabilities act assessing animals to zoning and lots of things in between as well i've done a lot of constitutional law first amendment freedom of speech freedom of religion fourth amendment searches and seizures both in schools and dealing with our municipal clients as well as due process issues a lot of contract issues both drafting them and seeking to enforce them a lot of criminal law as well but only misdemeanor process for my municipalities i have not done any felonies i'll be open and honest with you regarding that i've done a lot of labor and employment law and a lot of things specifically pertaining to governmental units that could become before a circuit court judge including open meetings act issues freedom of information act issues and  redevelopments downtown development authorities basically the whole gamut of things that come before then finally i've got a lot of community service as well having done a lot of work with out of a county two one one tri cities ministries counseling the holland free health clinic love inc the green haven schools foundation and i also teach sunday school to high school and middle school students so if i could i would just like to approach in and hand out material that is much more professionally done than the last time i was here though it was from the primary election and i'm just trying to use resources wisely so every day after that and then just encourage you to get out and vote at the november eighth general election thank you thank you dan other people have something to say it's different stuff i can thank you ken freestone eight forty five east eighth street i have something to say later on and something else is on the agenda but i was thinking about one of the items that came to your attention back in august dr paul vance offered to purchase some property from you from the city there is some flooding issues on twenty ninth and posin and i rode out there and looked at the property and i was thinking about it as i've been working on some wetland restoration projects this may be a really interesting opportunity for someone to pay you for the property and maybe partner with the mac watershed or some of the restoration work that's going on put in a best practice for water management in that area instead of just digging a trench and getting the water to run off quickly it might be a really great opportunity to put in some of the best management practices that we have in the area using o watershed and a number of other organizations to put in something really interesting and make it a really great demonstration project at the same time so it was just a encouraging you to maybe think about that offer again and that property and think about it differently in the article and the scutcheon that you had the articles in the sand all talked about that he had put a trench in there and it's not working as well as it used to well maybe it's because it shouldn't just be a trench maybe it should be something bigger and better and more appropriate to handle water and to mediate mitigate the water problems that he's having his neighbors are having at the same time make something really beneficial for the neighborhood for the community for the environment and so i think that might be a and really interesting opportunity i hope to bring that back to council again have that discussion and talk to staff and some of the other people in the area that might bill to help you with that tha try to find the proper slate here it helps if i turn it  rezone part of the property that they own it to fourteen east twenty fourth street and this is located at the very southwest corner of twenty fourth street in lincoln avenue as shown on your screen there is a current lay there is an office building that actually houses big dutch fleet credit union that was recently purchased by a credit union and interestingly enough half of that building is own c five district already the north half of the building is own are two district we don't know how that happened but it did happen  part of the the rezoning request the motive for that is to clear up this zoning situation as well as having a property line go down the middle of a building which is not from a building code is not a particularly good thing to have so planning commission so i just wanted to make that clear because this happens to be just a piece of equipment be quick meant does not trigger the site plan review standards it has to be a building in order to a trigger that  while this does not require any kind of a subsequent site plan review there will be other city people reviewing it brian white will be reviewing the driveway cut on a twenty four street in taking into consideration potential stacking issues and so forth so probably pushing the driveway as far to the west there as possible and we will have the opportunity to look at some landscaping in screening along the west side of the property there too because there is a host just to the west or so but sufis that to say the the request is to rezone again that part of the property counterpoint to at this part of the property here that is own are to district to the c five professional office service district and the planning commission is recommending approval thank you mark any questions or concerns easement the air easement over the eighth street right of way for west eighth street marker you back on for that or is that right ok street and the picture here shows the front of that building as it faces eighth street the easement would allow the developer to construct balconies bay windows in the corners at the top of the building that extend out into easement comes about at the request of the developer who indicates that it's needed to satisfy lender requirements for having a permanent arrangement for these balconies and why i wasn't involved in those discussions i've also heard that this the  location of the building is critical to the development but i really couldn't comment myself on that i don't know mark has any information on that in the premium we discussed issues of inspection as long as the residential units above the first floor that would have the balconies our rental units the residential rental inspection requirements and our ordinance code would apply the housing maintenance called reply whether they're divided into condos and have separate ownership or rental but the inspection process is currently only for rental properties and so it would be possible if you desired to add a provision required requiring inspections at the same frequency as for rental properties just off the never gets divided into condos and sold office as separate units that those inspections would continue on that one but as it reads now doesn't have that be and so it would need to do if you want to include that would be the motion to approve it as subject to formal to be approved by the city attorney with the amendment that inspections are required great thank you have any other comments about this when you took it out i took far as to giving them parking that they asked to switch some things with the city we've given them a brownfield redevelopment thing you know so in easy so this is not that something that we have been fighting at all and i really appreciate the earth protection idea of putting some balconies out here trying something different i think is admirable my concern is that protecting the sidewalk for the pedestrians are the pits city of homeowners that in case there are falling objects or ice or parts that fall plants that for for possible you know barbecue failures pets people who drop things accidentally sometimes on purpose that our citizens are protected against the safety of this this would be something very new for the city of holland the marr t does have a setback we're really talking about four feet really city or public property here the addition of this we could have noise or banners or people throwing things up separate so i think we'd be very careful about what we're willing to do this in this is going to be if we do it will allow this one there are probably others that are going to want to do the same thing and becomes a me too kind of thing so i think we have to be very very careful on this particular thing i believe that they could be able to do setbacks into the building that hasn't been built making three three season porches or balconies on the end that would not extend into the city property so i would prefer that they would redesign this and still be able to get what they want and do what they want for their clients put protect the city so i would like us to city be very very careful  if we do allow this and i would like us to consider having a look for another approach thank you playing any me pretty council meeting i just brought up the some language that we we might want to add into this agreement such as the inspection portion of it to make sure that unfortunately we've all heard of some sad scenarios in other cities where things weren't maintained you have balconies falling so on and so forth especially over a sidewalk like this we want to make sure that everything is up to par and we have some meat behind our rules and regulations so i had suggested that we incorporate with the rental inspection which is every three years that we make sure that there's a structural inspection of these  city attorney is going to be drafting some language and looking for things to along that line to be able to put in the agreement interference with the public use of the right away or any personal injury death or property damage including terry's fees based in whole or in part upon the constructing two pairing place you maintain removing the presence or use of the balconies of the windows the corners injured person might bring suit against both the property owner and the city and the indemnification obligation would require the property owner to indemnify and defend the city also in section seven there's a requirement for insurance for do i beli purposes and so that the property owner's insurance company would step in have to step up and and defend the city under their insurance policy and indemnify the city under their insurance policy now you know we've been through experiences in the past and have some things pending where insurance companies deny claims and sometimes it does feel like insurance policy is just a right to sue the insurance company to recover that's an exaggeration but so you can never predict what the insurance company's positions but then again you know there's always the potential of big hit by something far blue ice or space junk or who knows what so the potential always suggests i guess my point is that they're dreaming does give the city protection in terms of of litigation which sounded to me like was one of the major concerns that we talked about it's just a point to consider thank you david t tonight but as we move forward if this is the type of agreement that best serves us instead of the rubble or rather the bowl license arrangements that were accustomed to then i would suggest that we are going to do some study on that and figure out if that indeed is the best tool for us to move forward with this especially in light of kind of our preference relative to setbacks and how buildings are  built and balconies and things of that natures but as it stands tonight i can support this particular notion with the carry out that we do a little bit further there is another opportunity here michael jackson take that well if you're asking for a man meant for the inspection that i will bring the amendment for inspection as discussed earlier and that's the city around no no i was going to ask the same question and it's been answered all right ok yes i have prompts a question to me what would exempt it if i missed it upstairs i'm sorry but what would exempt this from our normal rental inspection practices and it turned into condoms perhaps i think greg mentioned right as as rental units they would be subject to the rental inspection process under curtain ordinance if they were converted to condos and no longer be rentals and they would be subject to the regular inspection process i guess i'm would we then still continue with the stipulation of these would be inspected for will just be for the balcony on curious here for creating our whole new category for happy mike if i might and and run can help out here definitely but my intent would be exactly that as was stated earlier we have an obligation to make sure that we're protecting what is going over the the public right of way  i don't care if it's privately owned if it if it's a kind of mini i'm kind of many miles days you said or an apartment we still have the responsibility and i think we owe it at least to follow the inspection schedule to make sure that these things are secure at all times no matter what the ownership or what the the residents and i you got me talking we're resident chippies is that appropriate yes it is have to go back and change our ordinance code if we want to do this on a regular basis would be a good idea to adopt an ordinance that would apply to it but as far as this agreement goes it would be a contractual obligation for the developer to tool over our tried and true tool rather license we will now have situations where a privately held property property overhangs public right away downtown whether it be fourteen feet high or low or whatever there's plenty of structure downtown probably below that fourteen foot mark that are equally dangerous because they're way should they come one engine from whatever property it is and injure someone but we're going to inspect this one and mandated that where we're going to have these two different standards for basically similar if not identical situation and that's where i don't want to fight because what will end up doing is being back here twelve months from now having to clean  so i understand the need for a tool but at the same time we're not careful we're just creating a lot of work on one side and we're just going to ignore the fact that we've got these other arrangements in place that have we're already behind on certain types of inspections can't keep up with others and just voice more of that third floor and certainly quite a bit not discount what you're saying i'm just saying we're going to go that mike pulled off which is the transfer of ownership of the retired police canine the last eight years he's ten years old he is in the point of time where he can no longer continue to serve and we are returning training every placement officer just like has spent his handler and trainer and police officer on the canine subject is a little bit close to my heard a lot of close to my heart my son in law happens to be a canine officer down austin texas he has two dogs one is retired and he's got a fresh dog now looks a little bit rough probably rather bite your arm off that like you but just as sweet as ever and tell he hears are good car keys and he's ready to go to work even though he's been retired if my colleagues will indulge joe wrote a letter a couple of months back that i think would be very appropriate at this point isn't tighter titled canine henry retirement in the summer of two thousand and eight i was selected by my peers to be the next canine handler for our department professionally that was the best day of my life shortly after being selected i was able to meet with my future canine partner to see if we would be a good fit together i recall this like it was yesterday instantly i knew that this dog picked me for this dog to pick for me was a perfect match we had our fair share of trials over the next eight years maybe not always finding the dope hidden in the in the search warrant or the suspect fled from a crime but with that said he made me feel better officer over the years and we flourished as a teen i learned a lot of life lessons handling this dog is talking patience like no other human like no other human have ever could he taught me to pay attention to small things and rewards will follow he gave me confidence in myself that i didn't know i had walking into a room or a community event with hundreds of people and i can relate to this with hundreds of people waiting to hear what you have to say and a chance to meet of police canine that in particular was one of canine henry's greatest attributes to have kids adults the elder in the elder to come and meet paul paul all over him is something i will never forget he was something special in that aspect in those moments where i was nervous having to talk in front of large groups or being called the assistant calls i would look into his calm demeanor in those times and it would put me instantly at ease this was the truest bond i could have ever experienced he was truly a great service dog for all the work he gave us over the past eight years we are forever grateful the stories and experiences we share our memories that will always carry with me the amount of dope he found on the street or the search warrants for we met will always be our high on our highly reels the high narcotic alert henry gave me during one of the felony sweeps in a closet of one of the residences home will always be one i remember when junior after telling the detectives agents that we were searching the closet door in that henry's interest was up  high was one of the best the closet was emptied in every inch searched and nothing was found gero who jr who always trusted us came back a second time to check it as we talked about the high interest in jr began to dig even more locating cocaine hidden inside a shower curtain at the closet ceiling that was used to drape a blanket from a closet door of the another store the suspect who fled from offices crna and patrol agents on a feed on a fugitive pick up on seventeen the  river was one of our best tracks and catches it happened in the middle of the day which is a very difficult tracking environment we were able to track in west between sixteenth and seventeenth streets over the fence over fence after fence and we're going to back here near pine sergeant weiss was assisting us in while trying to figure out where the suspect had gone we realized we were in the backyard of a vacant home looking around the home with canines still pulling me all over th s all over we spotted the suspect watching us from inside he took off running for the front door as henry rounded the corner on the porch greeting him instantly gave up last but not least we were able we were fortunate to be able to take a number of handguns off the street a few were found with drugs and car searches and search warrants and other hidden in the snow by a dumpster that being that being one of the most memorable after a homicide that occurred in harbor village with a suspect was seen near the dumpster shortly after the shooting the dumpster had been searched by detectives and evidence techs where when we were asked to look around the surrounding area  searching around the dumpster and within moments henry k nine henry ends up lying down to eight inches of snow near the back of the dumpster with his head buried in the snow showing me an alert he continued to put his head in the snow as i'm trying to clear the snow away together finding that the hidden pistol with the suspect that i just used to kill someone with writing this letter my mind is like a video playing back all the times that we shared together with all of you it's been very difficult to see my partner's physical physically fall apart and his desire to want to work but his body can no longer do the job he was meant to at a little over ten years old we have officially called it an awesome meet your career i hope to be able to have him enjoy his retirement home even though his health is beginning to fail him he deserves the best i can give him and for now he will relax with my family and deal his days are done thank you from the bottom on my heart respectfully submitted officer j mike the tributes this is just a very brief description and i think if you were to talk to any one of our canine officers you would hear the same stories  they've got great human partners but they've also got great four legged partners and the dogs have been a great a great addition i'm glad we're up to three we're hopefully we can convince a city manager we're going to have a fourth one so we haven't one on every shift pretty quickly here the support from the community for these dogs has just been phenomenal  money to pay for the dogs is basically done all through charities a great golf outing every year that's been going on for eight or nine years now basically pays for these dogs and they're not inexpensive but i tell you what they save a heck of a lot of time when searching a building or searching for suspects and things like that so joel is out training with his new partner right now otherwise he would be here tonight and henry good luck work and i would just add to what mike read in terms of officer slangs letter i will i just want to tell the community that is literally just scratching the surface no pun intended  a lot of times the details of the final result of what a canine officer does whether it be a firearm or an amount of cash or narcotics that the the final details are withheld for you know investigative reasons but quite frankly if those details could be let loose on the public i think everyone would be amazed at the letter only shares snippets and i for one cannot wait for the night when this council finishes this deal for this community and gets to full force i think it's an immense value especially in this day and age when you know police community relations are so important for obvious reasons pick any given even a headline on national news and in one of their communities struggle with and what we all deal with i've seen these dogs work in our schools be out in the the other comments thank you and we definitely appreciate that those officers and who have taken on a canine and have gone through out the training and they go back to they had the largest raffle sell of sales ever with a part of pollution they raise over thirty one hundred dollars for the canine for the home police department canine unit so let you know that there's there are a lot of people in the community that really really do support that and that was one of the best performances out there too was watching the officers and officer slink was out there as well as a number of other officers the performance was great and it was a performance but it was a demonstration of the great work that they do but it was the probably the best attended of all the presentations are out there and all the events that were out there with all of the dogs doing great things that was one that everyone just loved and the officers really really did a great job of of interacting with the people in the dogs were wonderful so they serve a great purpose and the  community does really support that so thank you thank you can you have the like mike said they are it's not just the purchase price of an animal it does take a lot of other costs then and so whatever can be raised from the community really would you like to tell us about gifts please the city manager's office is pleased to report the following gifts for good recreation for them for the south press color ship received anonymous donations and the amount of thirty five dollars donations collected from a softball tournament fundraiser that was held on august twenty seventh two thousand and sixteen with revenues of one thousand four hundred nineteen dollars and seventy one cents parks and recreation for the digraph nature center brick and land improvements received a fifty dollar donation from jeremy mesmer and the city managers hallam hughes connection program celebration event that was held on august eighth team received two in kind donations valued one valued at sixty nine ninety three in the from joel die for the cake from peach wave for some good certificates valued at one hundred sixty dollars public safety police services canine golf fundraiser event held on june twenty fourth had donations in the amount of eight thousand and ninety nine dollars in mind the ones it's it is recommended that these donations be accepted was appreciation and an expression of gratitude be forwarded city manager we have communications from our city manager thank you i really only have one tonight and that is to look forward to the next study session which is next wednesday upstairs we were just speaking of canines and dogs and there will at least three items on that agenda for further conversation by the city council one is a plan discussion for their dog owner education next wednesday thank you right now we have the appointments and resignations to city boards and commission we have the appointment of dr vickie lynn holmes to the human relations commission for her first term and that term will expire in june twenty ninth teen we also have joseph i saw see from the for the international relations commission for his first term and that turmoil and in june of twenty nineteen and we also regretfully have to accept the resignation of marc by sacchi from the board of appeals he has served on that board of appeal since twenty thirteen so i are also in the list of the thank you's did not have one amazingly other big donation that we will be handling in a more formal matter late manner later but i didn't want to just brush over it is it was in the consent agenda but we are so grateful to christa priya and his associates in response to this long conversation with the community since last fall about the washington square green the washington school green mother and they have now donated that property to the city will be working on the exact wording of that and and all of that will come out later but that is an amazing rea kind and generous gesture on the part of the developer of the condos in in washington school building so the public will continue to have access to that washington school green which will be a beautiful presentation in front of that one hundred year old building in the historic district i think it will be wonderful and we also have i also got a publication from a cushman group i don't know if people remember them but they have these little scooters and they love these cushman vehicles and they take they go all over the country with national conferences and they chose how in michigan this past year and they one gentleman wrote a letter in the publication and he said i'm a lifelong resident of michigan and i've never been to holland before that thirty fourth the national meet what a wonderful place it is the rides were well planned and the scenery was spectacular we will go back to holland and we want to ride with those nice people other nice people that we met there who is really excited about it and there is just an awesome picture of all the business that and six street which isn't that amazing really cool area that is being rebirth between downtown and the water and that if you haven't stopped by there please do i it is a very run and they had this big huge building that had been added on to two or three times over the years it has brick and cement block and wooden steel and they are gradually redoing it and there is a little store right at the beginning read that entrance and they have followers out there to show you your welcome and a little box with free firewood which is a great social experiment so you would really enjoy seeing it and their business started out with twenty five percent custom work and seventy five percent set of items that they sold and it's now whacked around so it's seventy five percent custom but the amount of standard  orders hasn't changed so the business is doing very well and it really answers i think great a great feeling of all of the entrepreneurial spirit in this area the number of people that have worked with wood and in manufacturing it's a great place to just go and enjoy being there and they also employ some students from the  disabled group of kids that meet downtown and they come over and sweep and take care of some of the regular duties in the factory and they just love it and they also get to pick the music of the day if they if they want to do that and they just have the greatest time so it's worth your few moments to step in there the other thing that has come up with industry recently is  the limelight company which is a division a launch of twist bank which is a sixteen year old company downtown highland and their work is just you know vacation they are consultants for innovation all over the place and all over the world and so this but this idea they decided to hang on to themselves and i can understand it because it makes the lighting smart and they we have now installed these little boxes and each light pole in seven different parks in holland is so that the lights will go off at a certain point but when someone comes comes to the park the lights all go on and all the lights talk to each other so it's a great way to save like seventy percent of energy costs and i think it's safer because even if the lights are turned off they will come on if there's a person there so there was a great idea and they're also programmable so if you don't want any lights if you're doing a night movie by park you can program the program that way and also for as far as maintenance goes as soon as one pole goes out the maintenance guy finds out so he doesn't have to wait for somebody to not be able to see and complain and all of those different levels so it is a great idea a great invention and we're really glad to showcase our own inventing people right here in holland michigan so that side of them monday was labor day and even though that seems like a long time ago a lot of great things were happening here in holland and so i think we have some pictures about that the fun of everybody walking along the boardwalk starting over by heinz factory going all the way to windmill island gardens that three point nine mile walk and it ends with a delicious pink pancake breakfast at the island with our hardworking americans there in the sweat shop in the  back we had councilman peters and lynn flip and sausages and everything else that goes on back there and people loved it so it was wonderful of day we had about three hundred twenty five people that showed up for that walk all different families and everybody and then after that we also had the labor day truck parade which had over seventy trucks right now seventy two trucks  longest military parade of trucks in the country right yeah so that was a great experience and all kinds of people came to that famil industry a huge celebration of hardworking americans and mr to think we served and that committee throughout the year as he has for how many years or many many ok ok a long time yes that's great so it's been a wonderful wonderful weekend and a lot to celebrate and here we go into into the fall please stay tuned to what's going on downtown we will be having the regular kind of things oh i'm supposed to also recommend her mention the how and use connections program which is in its fourth year and we have a little video about their work this summer it should be short and sweet mc could you run that please that was really we are here to work based on that work you're going to be learning different skills are going to help you navigate through your life for the rest of your life that such a great message of investing in lives the people and how can i see a better world and see themselves as a part of the world whether wherever your treasure is there was or your heart's going to be also and when these students give of their time and effort to make the community better to make a business succeed their hearts go with it and they feel as like an important part so that's awesome and also for our twenty sixteen you to video contest with american bloom that is fresh off the press replay of the head please matt after six years of participation in the american bloom competition for local holland in bloom initiative has become part of our community identity a way of communicating quality of life issues and a facilitator for change now it is known for its beautiful downtown picturesque parks and famous to a festival but this year something it's great we'll see what the judges think about that on the national level and submit it so they live manikin night there's a little poster for september sixteenth and we talked about the canines and the police department but there's also a citizen police academy and to the person who take the people that take this course i'm just come away learning so much about how our police department functions how law enforcement happens and there's always a much deeper story than you can put on the front page or that people can publicize but it's something that you can really experience if you take this and i do think a part of it is a ride along with police officers as todd mentioned what a great experience it was for him to see what that is really like as well so thank you for listening to that whole long list of great things going on in holland a great investment of people in all different directions much to be thankful for and much to build on and nothing to take for granted everything to appreciate and respect so thank you any other time and motions  more than a year ago we had to this question about an extension of the snow melt down central avenue from downtown all the way down to twenty eighth street or so toward a ring commons and connecting there  and at that time we sort of head at the beginning of a discussion about how the assessments of where were figured the forward to the downtown area and arguments in terms of usage and in terms of who benefits primarily from the snow melt we're talking about the difference between a primarily commercial area and a residential area so all of that to say that assessment policy remains the same for residential primarily residential applications or if there is enough of a difference there that we need need to make some sort of amendment to that policy certainly if i had snow from my house in my driveway approach was something that i didn't have to shovel that's a direct benefit to me believe me and i would be willing to pay for that when we're talking about the sidewalk in front of a residence we start getting into the area of common use and the philosophy behind why we put sidewalks in the whole discussion so i think it's something that bears discussion on our part before we get solid a policy of how are going to make those assessments so if we could use at some point incorporate that into a study session with me at least from my perspective greatly appreciate it thank you david any other communications from council members of them were there any motions and resolutions and council members met mary if you don't mind yes you are very passionate about this but since you can't make motions or resolutions i will do it for you thank we would as a collective body like to bring up a resolution to our state legislators in regards to the fireworks this past weekend if you didn't know was one of the thirty day period and we were blessed but not a good word so joining to make this night short and sweet joining a number of other cities and communities around the state i don't know that i need to read the whole resolution in essence the resolution is self of restricted sizes and types of pyrotechnics if that is not to their liking at least giving communities back control in their own community to be able to be restrictive we are as restrictive as the state law allows us at this point with our population size the hours the types which we really never had any any control over basically all we had control over was the hours and the state said you shall not be any more strict than this or you shall be sued so we abided but we've gone through this now for roughly four years anough is enough common sense doesn't prevail in a whole lot of situations unfortunately we have had some pretty near misses especially in our downtown central area that it's just not enough real estate out there for the type of pirate tactics that we're going off out there and when you have to clean up your yard from three houses down from a neighbor  that shooting things off it enough is enough so we hope that this resolution and that of some adjoining cities will catch some attention and that i hate to say it but the almighty buck which is primarily what this was trying to help do common sense work of rail so basically again this resolution is going to have legislators on a vote of this council if they s deem to rescind the act back to prior to two thousand and twelve or at the very least allowing local communities local municipalities to have control over the hours and potentially size and twelve you know a lot of different background and perspective on this council and different discussions we've had no secret i like to blow some stuff up that's just the hoosier and me coming out every once in a while won't drop any names jay peters rather to recall them but at the same time to with with experience in what we see here i'm willing to say yes to this i'm not so much of a repeal guy is much as i like the idea that the state legislature might consider putting the authority back in the hands of municipal leaders who know their neighborhoods know their residents in their constituents and i think we've done a pretty good job of keeping a pulse on this not just as council members but from a ministrative perspective as well and i know ryan and his team of try to do everything within their power to not just regulate but educate as well mike you're dead on in terms of common  sense my hope is that this get some attention and that the action actually gets taken up assess fine you guys deal with it locally because that's not unheard of in lansing for them to do things and say you guys at the local level deal with it there's plenty of things that they don't want to monkey around with that they just throw at us and i hope they throw this one back to us and so for that reason and that reason alone i'm willing to say yes thank you to had any other comments state level is probably like a trickle it would be with fireworks and it's our police department that is getting the calls and they get there and they can't find whatever when i know it's hard to enforce that kind of thing it's our dogs that are quivering under the bed unable to function it's our veterans who are going through p t s d it's our our homes that are feel as though they could go on fire or get exploded any time just at the whim of home ever from where ever because you never know the trajectory trajectory of some of these pyrotechnics as we've been calling them and there's usually not a lot of education when someone buys a bag of those and so yeah we've had a lot of complaints a lot of very articulate large treatises mailed to us about why this is a bad idea and how come you're not putting limits on it why does it go till such hours of the night and why are they so massive and how come i feel so threatened in my own home and i'm planning on leaving my house my community because you allow this and we've heard that repeatedly and we feel as though we need we have a responsibility to put a collective voice together at the state level to communicate what the local people are telling us because we want to retain the quality of life in this community and don't want to give it up for thirty days a year at least and we want the safety of this community insured already well because we already going off and i thought here it is an actual school night i mean i felt really really bad i could close the door put the headphones on and you know kind of walk away from it so i came here and they say i support what you're doing and i really appreciate you all the things you said  rationale and mike i really appreciate those comments so that's why i came here tonight was actually say thank you very much for sending that letter in for that repeal and complete favor of doing that so thank you very thank you so much can i tend to hear that everywhere i have never heard anyone say could you make it more open could we have more fireworks please that it's always been the opposite do something about this please will you so we want bought to say what the hours are and what you're supposed to do with fireworks in holland but yeah and some people are following them but still when they follow them it still goes to one am it's just ridiculous so yes everybody has a comment who wants one right and i could you call the vote please you will now are going in to go into a closed session to review the legal opinions correct that would be correct you need a motion and then a two thirds roll call to go in passes thank you and good evening