i'm here tonight to talk about the future obviously there are some changes about to be made in washington governing taxation and that influence that change may have some significant impact on the incomes of individuals within this community so that tax increases are going to become a more contentious issue than they have and had and the past at least that's my feeling i would like to recommend the establishment of a committee or a group to study methods by which the township could incorporate new ideas to not only improve service but also cut costs i give for give an example of the use of the drums drones are becoming a predominant item in the military service for a variety of reasons and i think it's high time that we look at new technology as a means of not only again improving service but also reducing costs patrol drones i look at the police department and every few hours i see a police cruiser traveler traveling through my street through my community and i wonder why we haven't thought of using a drone to do that same job not only would it be more cost a factor of because the drone could keep its eye on what's going on rather than just keeping its eye on the road as the police officer does but it could give us a better means of doing for example when we survey alarms when you get an alarm you have to dispatch a cruiser the cruiser goes out to see if the alarm is being ambushed or something of that nature we also have some adult centers and childcare centers in the township i'm thinking of situations in which both individuals with all a also young children wander off a drone is a much more efficient way of searching for them again drones can be equipped not only with cameras but also with enter ready quitman for examples i mentioned searching homes to see if there's anyone in break ends and for a drone to do a great job we could do road construction surveys road condition survey smushed more easier in dispatching a car someone mentioned doing a survey of stop science or something of that nature at one of our budget meetings that could be done with the drone much more easy but these are just this is just one set of circumstances i think we ought to look at other areas too for example are there better means of using our parks and recreation what other services could we get from our community center the list goes on i would like to see again the establishment of a committee to research and develop ideas that could not only improve service to the community but also reduce the potential for tax increases thank you is fully funded and so therefore i think you need to set the property tax knowledge first so and what's being proposed is an increase in the property tax millage from one to two bills to one point six to two mills that one tenth of a mill increase is is in the sense that dated by the by virtue of the fact that the increase debt service that is associated with the acquisition of the lane for hills park in addition to that council expressed a desire to have sufficient funds available to to maintain dollars increase now would you have to keep in mind when you look at that is that what we normally expect her because of additional building in town is that there's normally a sixty thousand dollar  than was needed to offset the additional debts or wrist payment that was taken on in two thousand and seventy two roughly for every hundred thousand dollars of assessed value your taxes are going up ten bucks right something like that  with regard to the budget for township like most disability the primary source of revenue is that from taxes the earned income tax the property tax as well as the transfer don't know whether we should have bitten that chunk of property up and taken it or not i have some real concerns about it whether we can afford it ne and what i'd like to suggest is that our township manager take a real strong look at reducing overall costs we didn't say anything to him this year prior to the budget development oh you'd be wrong about that and lecture me about well i don't say that maliciously i don't say that maliciously i understand where we are but as echoed by the other council members urged council members i am afraid that things could get out of control and the last thing i need to see particularly when congress is saying we're not going to let you deduct your property taxes your local property taxes your local state taxes we're not going to let you do that anymore and a bunch of other additional loopholes reduction three houses away from the nursing home i really came up here just to challenge you don't increase next year i challenge you right now to write a law that said we're not going to increase in taxes next year just  i can't imagine the meadows wanting to do that given our proximity to their their current government and i can't imagine the reverse wanting to do that as well and we're not quite sure when ryan slipped into this and maybe he's in a better position dis think we would want to direct the planing department to look at it look at a district where this would be appropriate because right now it is in use not provided for which means the only place that could be in peter's township is a is  of the industrial district and i don't think that's the location anybody wants to see a casino so if in fact the council chooses not to act on this i think what you ought to be doing is directing the township staff to begin the process of determining where it might be appropriate to the only thought ensuring back to my comment is that because you have the ability to change in attitude i would assume that if an outfit was interested the reproach the board about to three years from now all of the recently adopted act with regard to gambling in the state of pennsylvania and the revisions that that that accompanied these type of procedures did not exist before and i think it was a real concern on the day on the state legislators part that they didn't want to see them necessarily going into areas where they were one so we are today if we do it before december thirty first so i just don't see the upside to banning them i mean look how well north prevent those by adding one so they were just talking about you know having a close a hole in the budget i mean what's not that's not necessarily you know looking at advocating for swaptions and eventually of the forty third games yes see this is what i think eventually you're going to see this is going to be the state's resolution for all the clothes sears and j c penney slot machines and well  remember like thirty years ago or whenever the trail started and they said can we have on the trail and what would you not obvious answer is no the trails put in there to be healthy why would you want council this this is the same plan the intent with the property that you see along just spot road was to permit the proposed the location of the axis words currently proposed so we are doing a land swap in that location so that we can line up the to the public hearing in front of council dated november twentieth two thousand and seventeen it is staff position that the conditions as proposed by the planning commission  appropriate we would suggest a modification to condition number four based upon the discussion that occurred at the public  and if they want relief for their come back through the entire conditional use process including additional of the hearings that we transfer the authority to make that determination to counsel and that counts and based upon the results of the traffic study will at a future day make a wry determination as to whether turning lanes are warranted and if so whether they want those three lanes to be constructed like i say under the if you want to create a situation where council retains the authority to make that decision but big city based upon what the outcome so the traffic study or both in terms of what the need is right down for  shown in the drawings that have been submitted the way that it is being done or the way that conforms with our words but as a result of it having this that is of additional use council has the received either from the planning commission or the public hearing or elsewhere that mr smith is prepared to clarify exactly counsel's role in this process if you choose and i for four restrictions or conditions that are above that it is that which is under the underlying or ordinance received the new proposed language for condition to be and we understand we have to conduct this study and we have done the traffic counts we're still pushing our traffic engineering in song to perform the analysis to determine whether it's warranted but through that process in looking at the language it's raise some cern's primarily the first one being if it's an existing issue the second is if we have to get  came up and like i said the first one is what if it's warranted now so is that condition is written it's kind of broad based that council can essentially we'd be writing a blank check at this point in time to fix potentially an existing issue so the first change that we're proposing for that is if it's determined that it's warranted now we're saying due solely to the additional traffic generated by our proposed development but we understand that we would potentially would have to do construction drawings for that and we would have to potentially contribute to the cost of a track going if we were to trip it to be wanted if it's not there and it's an existing potential issue that we do not feel that we would be responsible for offsite improvement if it's an existing issue we do not believe that burden can be placed on the developer that the second is that this requires if if it is warranted and we go before and they say no then are we are we stop we want to provide a little bit more leniency in that that we want to acknowledge within the condition that this is subject to approval so that we don't property that we don't control we're not sure that we are the ones best suited to do that if it's a public improvement the township might be best suited to do that so what we're adding in here is that we would not be responsible for obtaining eastman's for whatever we require for the terminally important it's right now there's there's a lot of utilities that are close to the road it's tight there's topography to truly understand the magnitude of this this potential improvement and what would be required to make it we would have to go through for construction drawings and approvals and term and what potential cost would be to do that so all we're all we're trying to do with the provisions that we proposed is just provide that leniency where this just isn't an absolute that we are essentially writing a blank check before we know exactly what would be required there and what the design what that would look like i not with the levels of trips that would be proposed by that to the moment so low traffic generators so we're assuming we're assuming that if it is warranted now we're not adding to that ne conclusory but there's nothing in hearing the words that we take and use and so i'm just telling you right up front i'm not favor of this i'm not voting in favor of it and you know you can sit there and talk all you want but it's not going to happen as far as  preparing a report that is a detail that we discuss further in cycling approval in the recommendations will be made for the site going permits were making such as the underground parking additional items will be provided at that time so those details one is the height and in this district the nature of this use also requires that the pruning mark additional use of fruit so it's an opportunity to set conditions for senate set of regulations that are in addition to what would normally be experienced and the idea is to make them comprehensive enough so that in fact the you know  about the changes that i have suggested are a change in process the changes that are being suggested by mr sharry are change in substance and i don't think that they they are in line with what the plane commission has recommended the planning commission did not say that the only reason that turning lanes would be voted in was if they were warranted by virtue of the activity that is being undertaken by did the bellaver it also did never suggested that the responsibility for constructing things in any way shape or form be that of the municipality but rather that of the developer and that's what we would expect to see normally in developments the water senior living appreciate the commentary in the dialogue here the conditional use permit that we're seeking this evening is based on what we believe is our demonstration of compliance with the specifications outlined in the code to the extent we wish to build a portion of our building as a four story building  and to the extent that we wish to have the use involved at this location and we believe we have satisfied those requirements as part of our application what we're attempting to do here and i didn't quite understand the current regarding the process for us is the substance not all that fluent in the in the conditional use process what we are attempting to do is to demonstrate that we are in compliance with the specifications and our only comment as it relates is in is granted is outlined in the code is to the extent that there is an existing condition with the traffic and if the traffic is such that it warrants a turn lane regardless of our views certain involvement or not our only request there is that it not be made an absolute requirement on us to fix a problem that is already there were willing to contribute to that we were willing to continue to make the contribution towards the traffic impact fee that we would normally happen to project anyway so we were simply as granted said looking for some leniency on that we believe that we are introducing a community in a project here that comply is consistent with the goals of the comprehensive plan to use plan and  are currently warranted and if this is a loan determined to be a low traffic generator is we believe it is if that is the case then council can make a determination as to whether or not that's fair or not to do but right it should just be cut in half and as far as the turning lane you haven't been there for a while make sure pan dot tx between four thirty and five thirty i don't want to check in the middle of the night between four thirty and five thirty check in the morning when people are going to work you just have a hard time already that enters yes wherever it's being backed up we've got a problem on our street getting in and out the other thing is the twenty foot back from valley brook just check out the other nursing like the one down and make merry if out at the further in than twenty feet walking along the sidewalk there you feel like you're going to get killed in front of the dairy bar area anyway that was that was it four stories is knots and i thought the rule was you couldn't have four stories and i know it's only four stories in part but that's not what you've done everything we've asked we've created this new usage where we're trying to unlock it with me i'm sorry i do think it's too late but i can't that is not part of the real criteria so planning commission they all evidence to the intent to to remain there is currently a vacancy is for an alternate on the point of commission there may be some discussion of mice council about whether or not you're going to the problem is that state created this bay and almost like tronics in the landfills and for a period of time there were a number of stores willing to take these electronics that's not the case anymore it's the sheer volume of what's being trucked out of there is actually kind of amazing and it's creating a bird inside the public works department because giant t v s are being brought over in the people coming in aren't capable of  removing them from their car and putting them in the air where they need to be so you've got public works employees are over there  where we have the right to say we have the right to say no because it's a it's a voluntary program we're doing we don't have a requirement to offer this program for the most it's you know somebody brain there that you know like you come over there after