you're trying to figure out what the answer is to a particular vote question think about what is the right answer what should the law be and that generally is what the law what the law commands what the law says it is there's something ballot a party that has no rights to property affecting or depriving a party that does have rights to property with a partner that has rights has property in the case of the mortgage or has no say can't even raise the issue about whether it's proper are they really saying did or is it infected one of the overarching themes in this choice of law provision in the p s a itself correct not only because of that but also because it's a new york trust and therefore new york law government your own trustee issues are whether it is whether there is a valid assignment under the that any action of a trustee that is in contravention of the terms creating the trust such as accepting a mortgage that wasn't permissible under the truck stop command under the a little bit pregnant you either have the authority to do something or you don't and the trust the the trustee here didn't have the authority on two different bases in order to accept the mortgages into the property  that the trustee has to go through in order to provide graphic ation according to the p s a itself and i can provide them things excitation but it isn't our papers what do we have enough information in this record to indicate that those hoops were it's it's void and even if it's right to file it would make a difference in this case the court would still have to reverse now maybe later ron they can go back and ratified with they want to not just follow suit to try to work it out and to try a modification and etc now can't there be an attempt to work it out as it were after litigations filed not because the p s a specifically and that wasn't followed and that's why they have certain rights under the p s a and because they weren't given those particular rights your position is that the men have the right to sha and represent the plaintiff happily in this case as indicated in our release we believe the illinois law applies to  in weeks that we accepted that they then changed their position indicated that new york law applied i don't believe that there is a significant difference between illinois and new york so it's sketchy new york it's on the otherwise stated there in the provisions of this chapter and this chapter seventeen which includes the provision and issue this chatter i'm certain the prison to this chapter applied to the of states and t is a mortgage loan purchase agreement which was between teller financial capital funding inc which if you're in for a call that is the entity that was supposed to be selling specific intent there i mean it says two year x amount of payments you know would not do anything but will attempt to negotiate litigation is last resort what wha sure during the course of this trouble and then even was it before that before the litigation was actually filed no is that the conveyance of the mortgages into the trust was accomplished by the moment the loan purchase agreement which is indicated is paid we haven't been paid the bar then through discovery picks through a three hundred page cooling service the review to which it is not even a part of and says well you didn't comply with this gave directly to the self a it's trustee so the two parties that are named in the p s a the seller being held a financial capital funding in never held title and clients to accomplish it third party beneficiary status because there were these as you understood in negotiations after three months of of you know no payments and therefore off getting property in the trust the trust his very important tax implications if there were if things are entered into the trust that do not comply with the p s a it can throw off the tax consequences for all the beneficiaries it's important that it's follow to the letter and it's not a mere unit and so either the mortgages are in the trust or they're not and are not in the trough now maybe  fair minimum we have an opportunity to make the argument and have some standing authority that has its rights affected and deprived through a a an entity that that may not have any rights at all i think