question is are you excited two part question are you excited about a series about gotham and following commissioner gordon and is there enough to the commissioner gordon story to make a full blown television character as a great villains and we're calling back to someone that no one really cares about at all in any way whatsoever i mean if you're gonna do something back around you've got a great set of villains there and we're going to trample on the set of movies anyway you know commissioner gordon is going to be a part of this but throw someone in there let's get some of the eight million great batman villains and bring them out there show me what's going on and they may have planned for that put it around one of those characters instead of around this i mean to clear rip off of agents of shield now that's got a great amount of backing behind it and there's a little buzz with that as well enough that's on your agenda for good i have it on their awesome task  i mean it's like ripping off a success of that show because i would think that most batman fans would be excited to see the show whether batman appears or doesn't appear is there enough commissioner gordon for a sustained multi season show probably not one of the better batman stories recently kind of revolves around commissioner gordon knew with batman the black mirror kind of ended right before the comic book relaunched and i was  about jim gordon and gordon son that was written by scott snyder kind of a big big story arc that was the last original batman story i think the villains would be key mr bastow said eight million great does a lot of villains there's a lot of villains that they could go with i don't think anyone's hammering clamoring to have a calendar man or calculator man come back to the screen but possibly i think it'll be a lot more about the department and not just gordon but gordon runs the department so it'll be about him mainly you know i think most people give it a chance especially with shield and everything else taking off you know it's going to end on how much really good writing is done by specific goal you're never going to hit it you're never going to have that great success you want to so i mean you've got to have that strong focus and it now is that you think the series would be hindered by that constant waiting for batman appearance i want to say that one of the series i think that a good job of deflating that immediately was star trek next generation which from episode one the first the pilot episode had dr mccoy show up so fans are best the most interesting ideas probably i don't know the answer to this is commissioner gordon how long was commissioner gordon in charge in the in the police department before batman became because from everything you see from comics to movies to shows in the past gordon's always a lot older than batman so if you're to think bruce wayne venues forty's commissioner gordon probably bears be it least ten years maybe twenty years old or so could this be about gotham before batman even existed then you're not really waiting for batman to appear because he hasn't been around yet so that could be an interesting take on it i mean getting to be commissioner gordon could just things out of the grayson family or help in those little things just those little easter egg kind of things or winks at risk that you know the crazy fans those are the best way to do it that way there will be batman battling in the background but i could also see very  bringing some of the stuff seemed possible in a way to t v thoughts and is this the t v which one of the better medium to an on run for the defense of the property i mean yeah it's got a major character something you know avengers x men put that in the theater to make billions of dollars that way but a smaller property shield for example is never really had a very successful run in comics has been launched seven or eight times i can think of in some pretty iconic covers and movie and he started getting a following and loved it now to make a whole show about him you really really depends on how it's done i think t v can be done great t v can be done very badly and there are some great minor television shows too light whole d c comics pantheon of animated stuff is better than a lot of the movies the green lantern movie especially just boring and the cartoons of the early ninety's were were really good was great stuff  really good and it goes back to like you said if you let a writer do what they want to do it can be great if you try to make everybody happy it can end up costing you everybody at the same time because nobody really likes it if that's the constant battle is what you want like arrow what a niche character from d c and he's got that rachel gets a lot of c w gets a lot of fans it's a very very popular movies where there is kind of al doing each other as far as facts are bad or whatever and the the thing that's beautiful about television of course is that this character arc can go much much slower you can go through an entire series and i was thinking about i was gonna bring back star wars but i was thinking about we're not offended  and felt very rushed and like it and it can just made this jump to the dark side i mean that there's ten things that there's a lot of stuff going on i thought how great would that have been to spread that out over hours i want to watch two hours of the manipulation of one character as opposed to that it felt like in the movie that anna can kind of made this decision decision to become dark because he wanted to save his wife but as opposed to kind of turning him against everybody and making him think everybody's against him which they allude to but it really wasn't discussed in as as well as it could have been and it was because of i think the nature of a two hour movie you couldn't tell it and you saw it more even in the lord of the and so i i just i don't know i personally i would think character and i mean it's as i'm getting older the explosions the fast action i like little pieces of that but i really become certain characters side of things and so then i watch a lot of that's the one you mentioned star trek earlier and one of the biggest downfalls of star trek is they try to tell an ant an episode most of it in forty five minutes they'll build up a great plot and then they solve it in two minutes and you know that was rush the brady bunch it's how how quickly we have forty three great men everything is a lot and it's fixed in two minutes at the end where you know if you have a show like lost kind of dated for about four and a half years telling you  the one constant plot where there was lots of little plots but a constant plot being told throughout it when you get to one hundred hours of something on a t v show to run six seven years you can really do a lot with those characters and you can just two hours in a movie see my feeling back and forth as star wars and again we have differing opinions on the star wars films i think if that had been written better from beginning episode one two and three or really let's say two and three you could have really told that rise and fall arc of the same time and sort of gotten past that if that didn't include such happy times at the end of the second arc if you really were let's say beginning the first the second movie with them together that love story just dragged that film down i think that that could have been the descent into darkness and then the third one could have been that falling away completely and i think they missed that that going to better telling so need something like the godfather i think is epic and those each one has that huge rise and fall of the loner movies two and a half hours but still they're beautifully told they're manipulated through it even the third one you know i never was like oh it's terrible it's a great film it's just not as good as the other two i think it comes death comes back to that writing how much you try to do that but i do agree with you as far as the explosions go they're certainly films that i will go see just because they're out in the theater i want to see things blow up in the avengers and spider man and batman or whatever but as far as the small screen that is a place for a nice character and simulate a blade for example i think could have a pretty good following on that nice market of television different characters speaking different characters transmission transmission someone must've been watching our show last week i'm sorry i got to get you up to speed on we talked follows a month after the san francisco chronicle also brought down its paywall they're going to offer premium service so it's funny while the post that talked about we really got to do this because all these great newspapers are now start charging to read content online and some of your bigger papers are deciding it's not really working for us and they and they interviewed the one of the guys in dallas morning news and he talked about we basically were making there was no money to be made  is this is a numbers game the amount of money they were bringing in on charging revenue and the advertising dollars didn't match where they were bringing in before or traffic in ad revenue and that's where they get with that businesses can say whatever they want they're in the business of making money they don't make money they're not going to do it makes money they're both keep doing it that's all there is to it so you're saying the people who put up a wall weren't bringing in as much money versus the advertising dollars or  it's going to be especially with something if you you really care if you get your news from the pittsburgh post gazette which is cut charging you a premium service versus the trib if you can get the same information and one free and one is not right your revenue is going to go down with it and i doubt there's that many people in pittsburgh who want to pay to read the newspaper online like you said the people want to pay to read the newspaper and generally have a drop on their doorstep or they don't have a computer and really you're not going to get the revenue well the problem i think the newspapers is that they are no longer in the place people are too place people turn to for news yet they continue to want to be that as opposed to adapting and saying we're not going to be first with the news because you're go your news on twitter twenty four hour cable television station whatever but here's where you go to get more in depth into the story or something along those lines but it seems like they're still trying to live in a sold newspaper it is very different chapter seven is very different than chapter eleven you're saying are they going away totally are they trying to buy or sale of everything or trying to reinvent themselves and get out of a couple things that chapter eleven and they were selling off their their look well this is an older story but they were looking for twenty two million dollars and the auction bankruptcy auction bankruptcy auction mean by yes chapter seven you anything you want you were twenty two million dollars you really go bankrupt if you can sell it you know if you think you're worth twenty two million dollars how much what's a tard been doing for the past fifteen years to accumulate all this debt that seems to be more than twenty two million dollars couple games but you would think that there would be a lot of research or whatever release the call it's not like they released the atari three sixty or a console or anything they have a link so that's their last the x box would not exist if it was its own company because microsoft has been losing money hand over fist to make that continue to make it and same with sony playstation two giant companies that are making basically the last two atari when their consuls went into the plug this into the front of your t v as a joystick once that market fell through which i market is popular for a while but that market fell through atari really had nothing left there's nothing they're not going to make a console but i can make games for one point five one point seven two point one two point three point three that's dexter no that has wrapped up a pretty good satisfying we have  thirty four million dollars prisoners dropped the second with a respectable ten point eight million rush ten million this is its first weekend wide release any interest in i'm curious to see  baggage claim number for nine million and don john took an eight point six i got to ask is too big movies going up against each other this weekend which as opposed to previous weekends where they have been this very good