i'm reluctant to spend too much time on it because we're still receiving rite aid and i just thought that it would it was better to have because there were so many things that we were trying to that we were waiting because of the survey i thought it would be an  and i think i mean this is two hundred thirty eight responses which is really fantastic and we're town of five thousand people totally outing kids and you know so i think the response rate is great and percent of respondents thought either of those should be in the commercial district which i thought was very telling and is really useful information for me terms of getting the kind of input from you know people want to service professionals be there forty three percent so it's just you know it's it's because yeah i mean there is there's different ways to interpret different things but i talk about the second for a while is that people don't aren't really in favor of you know the general gist i get when i look at the results is the majority of people are in favor of development  what they like you know a lot of development but they the reason that they live here is because of the bits of rural character which usually means not development it's not particularly surprising but again it's nice to see you know to have that kind of input from this many people and that's definitely a trend through all of the questions that people are looking for like oh we really need to make some development happen here for the must be that there are some people who feel that way the for the most part that's not the sense maintains small town feel and if we could have that then this is what i heard we could have our cake and eat it too we could keep our girl lifestyle but we could have a right but we don't have to just let the whole thing get pulled down so all the right so i felt like it was pretty good it was i thought it was kind of support of the constraints and make it make sense as like an integrated thing not so much like willy nilly to recover references to like i don't care what was going on inside the building about but i care what i want the got the most responses understandably but it's you know after people post you know we get between fifteen and twenty new responses consist so even that should did that i'm around i think that twenty fourteen we we should check to make sure that the final version up there but have you made some changes right last fall and it was not updated for i think the village center does  yeah in our office where i feel like just sort of getting to figure out what's what and michelle started updating her website and hadn't gotten to that part apparently since just as i make sure that the right so i don't know how you guys want to do this whether we want to just go line by line which is sort of how we  problem is i always look at this with an eye to what can be cut through like you know the law i took out the first sentence then because honestly why does the town plan have to say that education is one of the most important community services to that end a similar question and this is just my lack of understanding why are we talking about education at all i tell you plan has to have certain elements in it per state statute education and child care both are elements so it has to be in the town plan in going back to the survey to more than half the people when they had to pick three things that they have to the schools that they like most about jericho the quality of the school system which i would say his quality of education showed up as one of the top three top at three that's all except for childcare which i get i thought that's different than public education but like public education is completely outside of our jurisdiction purview and i get that if it's required to be in by state statute i sure why were you know it's it's good it's a lot there's a lot of information in here that i think could serve us as we're planning to understand you know to understand the status of knowledge that being said still taking out the first sentence i think  mean we're in a stable situation because our town is not growing but if we were in a different situation where to locate the school and other things that would be colocated in similar areas might matter and having it as a focal point of the community might say you'd rather have it in a hub location rather than out there in location to deliver it doesn't matter for us because we're not building new schools and we're not looking for new land for schools as you do but i confess that i didn't come up with any language other than exploring ideas should be taken out because they're not there and then you'd school district is exploring ideas for sharing services reducing costs and increasing educational opportunities for students but is not considering reconfiguring or closing schools i know it was it was this year this year in twenty fifteen voters approved for the modified mill mansfield union school district which includes language there deeply involving most students just what we were i was there where you could just say the schools function as a social focal point for the community period yeah to the rest of their and instead of too short paragraphs and are among the largest employers in jericho  and i like that the safe routes to school has been that sounded all new and you did you had that and there was a little bit but there was a lot more information especially from th and then working with the town for some specific things with their some infrastructure across walks and bus stop that was  is it too specific under that section to have the big cross walk near mills riverside park in that jolly intersection i that was specific of an idea because i do i my want to keep it in and it would be if you're looking at where should we allow child care and if we had a real problem like you know tons of people and not enough child care and then but that's under the child care section so so essentially what what has happened is with the early education act there is you know i quire meant for the pre k to be provided after ten hours or at least up to ten hours per week and  literally be on the same page there was a lot of activity had front porch forum in august and september where there were not enough slots but were looking for after school care i don't know if there is i wouldn't do it based on the front porch forum but i don't i would maybe there's a way to contact them and say is there a long waiting list you know churches just because i think it's important you know there was a lot of people pretty concerned that there has to they didn't have anything to do with their kids after school because  that the third paragraph that says there are no full day for your child care programs i think should say no center based a full day full year because i think some of these home based one  out to i think there are there actually might be five licens in home daycare providers and town one of them is closing at the end of this year so i think therefore so i individual providers that were licensed in that part and i reached out to them directly so i guess it's possible that that website isn't up to date so it might be were going to be worth a phone call i'm sure yours also tell you about seeking referrals to talk to us and at that time the point person was a journalist but i'm not seeing a name for something i just i wanted to point out the difference between the old plan and the current plan is also just that the numbers of children that are under six that have their parents in the workforce and previously to been seventy seven percent and now it's sixty three percent and we're there is just getting going yeah and now we're one of the before we said can we take this out it happened and you didn't really want to take it out because you were like it that's an accomplishment something but is there any way to have a paragraph that said you know good celeste holm plan these strategies have been implemented it makes sense to like them and then they might still be strategies that there's more work to be done but if they're not that they can come out you know i don't know how easy it is to track i don't know what's been done or what hasn't been done  militants i mean one way to do it is simply changing the language continue to you know which is right here doesn't give us much no it's not as much opportunity  they would know already did a yes no or an oh you know we're not writing back in that section where on it we talk about transportation could say you know since the last last town plan there have been these at the end of each section that kind of itemizes these things goals strategies like that to do list you know so that's a good practice to have a set of then there's also that implementation chapter at the end that has them all there go through that section i don't know when you know that appearance but implemented figure out should it be added should there be a narrative piece added to that section saying it has been implemented basically what the net that you know that has happened the next step would  of fell out of that after the last one because we had turnover transition and what have you but go through and say ok which are sort of the short term that are our responsibility and have we done them and if we haven't what can we all there then use the word continue to do the things that you know i mean a lot of these really are things that are you can't say john for sure that school district facilities are adequately plan rather than that i really have no changes to the strategies there's stuff that we're doing  on to chapter ten is saying though is just to be careful because if we bring water there then that removes a barrier to development which would be a good thing potentially you just want to make sure that the development happens the way you want it to happen and that you don't just open it up willy nilly to use it by making is that much easier this is just saying just unintended concept be careful about unintended shouldn't be the thing research and development like planning and zoning and those are the things that control how it develops not a lack of water rights and that actually makes sense of starting  from do you think that's ok yeah i think it is an embedded and i see your point and i know so in other towns like recently in shelburne they were talking about blow up about encouraging development so that it even though there should be other tools to to prevent development it really is often used as a tool to encourage or discourage so we know that  just say that i mean this just is a little bit saying you know when you don't get water because we're afraid of what you'll do with it you know when i'm a little uncomfortable with trying to help clients in other areas of the state apply for building permits and where this might be a restriction generally speaking the town has various locations ever my reaching out saying we will fix the water problem to make sure you can put your business here i mean so i think that's the general trend right you know i don't know you know in the right the right now if there's a freeze on new development in the commercial right now that's not what they did is they added like a couple sentences or sentence to the they're not on updated online yet so i don't think right so great have they been cut off yet that was the same like if we take that out it should come out could do whatever it wanted with the sort of smart thing to do would be to provide public water given where that's not really you think from the user standpoint people generally speaking business is a particular so suppression side is there talk about maintenance or talk about operationally speaking they have or what they feel to be a faithful guaranteed water source and not the question mark which is a well seems to carry water is nice right and then you know some of it's depth of pocket to when you're putting something in you know if you want to you know if it's ten thousand dollars your water number some people would rather that big and have a wind run rather than drill and t to me i guess it's a little bit of the cart before the horse until we go back maybe to discuss history because for one of the reasons why i like retail as i understand it would be an attractive kind of business is to have is that is the testimony that i heard from water experts is like retail business use less water and need less water  use anymore so heavy industry or light industry or retirees so i don't know if the answer me forget the language it's like do we want water there or don't we want water the and the answer to that question seems to be related to how do we want that area to be developed and that question sort of what i saw a little until we figure out a little bit more about th can't quite answer your question because i'm not quite sure what we really want to happen happening i think you can just look at it from the public safety i think here they think it's the right answer but i think this sort of goes back to what i was saying you know if if somebody if some business person showed up in town and wanted to put a business in that met all of our criteria for a desirable business being a taxpayer you know attractive exterior elements you know low traffic or whatever the elements might be boring was the one issue we probably would try to bend over backwards to make sure water was not an issue correct i mean so i mean and so the being the common thread whether it's a house and or a business water is always in the main and it's never ok i don't think we want to make a statement here that we're going to be you know making that decision down the road as to whether we want to supply that how if we have or where they want to live i think that the issue is about limiting development through water rights i think really that doesn't make sense go for it i'm not in i'm not in development or in commercial development but i can try man it was a big do a big dust up in richmond about pouring water and and that signaling like  seem we're going to put water in and then business i mean in my head what i'm thinking is that the you know we can have the language disappearance of the interest in having the water but you're not going to go buy a water line without knowing it's going to be you so you sort of time that would business come in in the in the past we've talked about in that area that we've talked about the idea before of bringing in water because people like glenn and other people that area can't develop without was there saying we can't do anything much brain matter and so it's not like someone saying hey if you bring in what i want to do this please rain water it's been a saying in this in the last  months talk about a quarter of element talking about the idea of bringing in water so that other things can happen in that area so it's not only it is a great what some would say hey i'll do this if you're bringing water it's more there's property owners there and we're saying if we want something to happen we need to bring in water to make that feasible for them that's my recollection the two of us and says on ten point one point two point two in the last seven sometime point one point two point three because that's kind of the given anyway that appropriate planning tools should be in place that's what this whole document is about is developing there there are you guys know the area better but there are certain pressures for development in this area that are being evaluated in the future of the areas being evaluated  has nothing to do with water but water right well would play into a certain path maybe for the area so that maybe goes back to the  looking at the results of the survey too for that just to the backward arrow i didn't have anything sewage disposal i don't know the reason just this it makes sense weird but that that title includes a term waste water like waste water so sewage i mean tough a lot about once upon a time there are two separate things right kelly well i mean the state there are two different categories there's the solid waste division and then there's what was the wings water management division and now has an entirely different following paragraph you can just take out the as noted above to liat and then have it start but it's done with i don't know if it's a low in development of rural or as the previous thought under bill the bill but we don't say anything about here should we wait exactly so i mean any time there's expansion there's the weighing the pros and cons so  i'm feeling better about what we took out that's right and nothing happened no we're not a whole lot since i took out i left a high speed internet connection is currently available in parts of jericho i kind of one more here i think a lack of access to high speed internet is a by reform room but they haven't connected them up one seventeen and then the answer was that they were getting their crews for failures in the southern half of the state several months ago and they were replaced their priority was to factual information about which part of his job it is or lower it is i don't have access like fairpoint says that they provide high speed internet but they don't actually have their infrastructure can't support it what they tell you is our routers  in the past for businesses i've had success involving my congressman to help with internet problems because it is regulated by the f c c yeah and there is there are you know standards that are supposed to be met and if so according to the story of the six reporter that is also very well written that one of the things about the flag that is a phenomenal asset is that little brick building on park street it's like a other parts of time have i'm liable or inadequate high speed internet yes sure yeah y not completely up to date and control but i just you know if we could add a sentence i don't have a problem with like it's great that we have a plan i think i guess but just to make it clear in this plan that that terminating for telecommunications is  say you know here these are our scenic vistas and there shouldn't be any development including television station towers here the day they would they wouldn't necessarily agree with the town but they would have to  stand i would have no idea what stand to take other than my own personal opinion and so when i was wondering is since they just did this big sort of study the conservation commission yeah i don't know how much they took into account scenic resources but really just into a natural resources wildlife habitat we had we did a scenic road study but it was really subjective and there was some question about i mean i was part of that it was an interesting thing but i'm not sure it's it's really possible it's also you know one person's beautiful views right and one of the things is if there was no no build structure it got a zero on a scale of zero to three zero writes silly i mean some don't structures are nice some aren't but to say that since there isn't any it's a zero i think that's what it was it  was a while ago was kind of cool went down scholar road and everywhere many feet snap pictures in all directions and that no other have ever many feet and the idea was to pick which segments are the most attractive can't do that right right so right we can do it so what peter had language for what we should say in their stead identified only by specific areas which would be adversely affected by location of were  what i did with the school this august so since we still have the old time police did we want to put in anything about scandal or or not what the scandal services and this second time just to chiropractors operate offices and jericho you know so in that it goes on to name i don't we definitely don't want the names of the business brain re paragraph two of i think two of them are and two of them are  course the new name for fletcher al but i think that there's a time in which we're going to want to go through that survey and and you know if one person said it we don't want to add it but if ten people said it out of the blue then we might add a sentence you know there might be places within this town plan that says a two thousand and fourteen survey of community residents that are for a desire for additional medical e economic development new housing is somewhat influenced by the survey transportation less so transportation is probably a shorter transportation and then if we have t language for