also due to elevation deficiencies to provide a fair protection to majority of the existing service area we were then hired in late two thousand and ten after the first before it and that kind of raised out good fire protection all over the village area and that needs to be or should be augmented with proper storage and pressures are f would in fact have full i s o recommended fire close and everywhere but the highest locations including the school but the school would be increased to over two thousand gallons per minute for fire protection the lights over three thousand gallons per minute and there are other ways too to augment that with certain other sprinkler systems and so forth in the buildings too to bring that to as close as possible to call recommendation this stor recommended storage of in the proximity of seven hundred thirty thousand gallons right now there's two hundred fifty thousand gallons of storage right now let's say there's an eight thousand gallons per day flow to the system area can you tell us yes well the first and biggest is the most developed area in the middle of town the commercial area and also another is the future  other question as to where you know where certain things are but thirty five hundred for three hours is the maximum requirement is the requirement that causes the maximum amount of effect on the side of the take that's needed  is undersized but also we have this pressure issue in town which under current state and federal regulations there are a majority not a majority there are many connections that do not meet the minimum threshold so we need to look at alternatives and for not just for one person or ten people it's for number of people on the system under all flip actions don't meet the minimum pressure requirements as stated in state and federal regulations so but it's all great so obviously we already have a tape of the buggery that is too low so that's an example right there that for yeah the comparison of one point two two million or one point two million so the first one being about one point two two million the second would be one point tonight so they're close in price but there's a better numbers from green and engineering who can move forward so that then we can then present like we've discussed the split between possibly the town and in the water and sewer users so we can get really hard numbers and so we can start approaching landowners in that hatched area to see if there's any land available are willing to to use it i mean if if we come up empty then it's clear what we're going to have to do  but as far as cost and and i think the cost benefit analysis of an offsite source we get good storage we get good height we get good pressures this is we need to we need to make a decision in bridge street those are now oh right already and even though they've been designed and that they were part of the bigger issue is that this is clearly a top priority and that this needs to be a priority in the near term for the town not just for the water well i don't know if we should wait until it's very nice things tend to break down because between with the things that matter and sewer budget and what comes out and what the town said infrastructure there are some cases across from mine where there is bond payments put on the town for infrastructure improvement projects because the town sees that it benefits the entire town that's part of what we're asking green engineering to do is sort of break down the benefit to the town in fire suppression versus the benefit to the water system users what so then we really have two issues i mean if you if you kind of put aside the fire suppression which i'm i think still needs to be part of the discussion but there's there's the safety of the tank itself and there's also this this ongoing pressure issue for many users on the system that we need to address so even if we put in a smaller tank we would still have to put it at a higher elevation so we would still have site work that we're doing and correct me if i'm wrong but the extra volume could could this be something we add on later or or what's the benefit of you know i have to look at each option individually to see you know whether whether that makes sense or not be the issue of course is with with the pressure you're not going to get it without going higher know the two schools so we certainly could you could get i mean if you just cut in the middle you get thirty five hundred gallons a minute before we you know whatever that would come what they recommend for certain types of structures proximity you know and use of a structure and that's what our numbers are based on so would definitely be a judgment call that would be more right this minute we're talking about doing the preliminary design work scene at the same to get better numbers on how much it's going to cost and we need to do that regardless of how much the end and it's going to cost and we need to g the last next year we thought it was unusual because there are businesses going around interesting these tanks so you'd expect they would have come into it for fifty thousand dollars we can give you know five years and they were very clear that said will help you but ideas it depends on who you choose the issue you go with so there are two funding sources there's the well there's three actually there's the drinking water state revolving find which is the one that i work with there's us to real development and then there's bonding so our program based program is thirty to twenty years three percent real development can go as long as forty percent or the life of the ass and scuse me forty years or the life of the asset and in this situation it could go out to whatever the outcome is that we could we could put it all right and we're caught there and the nice thing is to the nice thing about going with the option of going with real development is that they don't have a priority list ranking is that it's an open application period you're ready to go with the ladies available we'll give you the money where it's but the t v s are at is that you have to get on a priority list and you have to we need to see if you're actually approved and see if the money comes available because there's limited funds every year and the bonding of course i mean either way you still have to float a bond we still have to pass a bond because the funding agencies need to know the full faith and credit of the town the community is behind the loan but there are certainly it's really important year one point two engineers pursues gives us options on the different funding agencies but so do we have to we need a motion to authorize good and engineering to pursue on one topic one  i don't do we have to yes there needs to be a motion ok we have a motion to approve the washburn the washburn water allocation looks like it's parcel each to touch on the swallow and a lot of it is just things that we can't control the subject revenues are down and debt payments are coming due i didn't notice any substantial increases except for health insurance and in the budget although we did want to ask for salaries scandal and jeff so the rest of the town has been kept to a two percent increase and this was more than a two percent increase so i didn't know what it was because of factors position getting the done to tick to give it a little higher or or work what was going on this the end was then to reflect your actual capital budget ok that's what i'm and the capital budget of the twenty five thousand was for the contact time it was for the road right and the electricity we need to not kick the can down the road we need to deal with them i'll be one of people but i'm bill and i certainly would be would welcome anybody in the community who would like to participate in the water and sewer commission you know i would i would love to see see places where we need different i mean because you can't do anything about the desk we have to pay it and we can't do anything about the project itself is revenue coming down we know we know we've lost people so other than hand the number of we don't have to like it but we do have to do something about it and that something is passing i might we can might get people on systems let's talk about a struggling system right we should make that part of the conversation in our in our subsequent meetings but we need to cut something but she works with select board so i asked if she'd be kind enough to come and talk and we could ask questions so that's where we're very ok let me start with i didn't bring anything with  today because i assume that many like many select board members now you have laptops in front of you who can go and look online at the examples that i'll give you but my background is  communications public relations marketing web design so i've been doing web design like the mid ninety's and i started out working as a public servant for the department of agriculture so i've worked with government agencies and understand the needs of government agencies having to put information on line that would be accessible to anyone in your town including those that are blind and handicapped and also being able to put information online that can be interactive with your town citizens that would be something that they would understand this not full of acronyms and terminology that people would be able to interpret and so i've worked with of several towns over the past two years i've worked with twenty four towns in vermont through a funded project with the vermont council  development and so i work with minutes audi's to help them improve their online civic engagement and most of the towns i work with chose to do that through new websites either new websites or improvements to old websites several towns that i had been working with had something built for free or a friend did it for them and it just wasn't really providing the kind of service or was very unfriendly for the staff in town to work with to get content online and websites need to really be upgraded every few years anyway because there's always new technology and and especially now you have to siddur that twenty five percent of searches these days are done on mobile phones so that your websites do have to be mobile and device ready you really should have that even though your rural town you know that a lot of people have i phones and smartphones that they use so that's where i have been and so ashley got in touch with me because i worked with the sterling center for government doing this municipal work and so what i had done was with a developer we build a template in the wordpress framework which there are several reasons that i chose to go in that direction work process is a framework that is easy to learn to for anyone to really learn how to use but the framework itself is very familiar with a lot of web developers and so several of the towns that i was working with at the time wouldn't have they once they adopted the website they would be on their own with it they wouldn't have necessarily someone working with them with technical expertise but if they ever needed that it would be easy to for them to find someone that understands wordpress work press is very portable if you were hosting it on a server then that relationship went down the tubes for some reason or you found a better deal with another web host you could very easily take your website pick it up and move it so there's a lot of to for reasons i chose wordpress but there is a template this available and you can take a look at it on line and all read off the the u r l for its b vermont broadband dot org so tight that in first and you're going to come up with a site called the week of or mit help center and i put that something that a town could reference to look at best practices for putting municipal information online the ideas for basic ideas on how to structure content what kind of content you should have how to write for the web what are images how to maintain your website is handicapped accessible so someone that's blind could be able to understand your website just as well as someone that's cited and also links to resources that would be helpful and then one i also did was build a test website i call it it's the template using a template to build this fake town website called cloverfield and so it's even my broadband wark and then if you put a forward slash test underscore site you will get to that template and also i think there's a link to it on the  site so that is the test site is what the template looks like what i'm doing and that was the template that was originally built for the project i was working on but what i'm doing now is i'm creating and dated version of that template that it will be flexible for mobile devices it will be called responsive and so that's where it will be in within a couple weeks i have been putting together style sheet that will allow that site to shrink squish so that you can see it on a smaller screen and still be able to search and get around on the site so the particulars about it is it is follows the state of vermont and federal handicapped accessibility standards and it also follows the federal state federal usability still websites and it gives examples of what kind of information like listing all the administrative staff in the town who they are how to contact them who is on the select board all your different boards information about town meeting a lot of people don't that are new to vermont they just move in the town of they've been here for a year maybe five years and they still don't really understand what town meeting is or what parliamentary procedures is or roger's rules of order and so by putting that information online to help people understand what town meeting is and also being able to warn put the warning for the meeting online even though it's not required by law to do that and you're not required by any laws in vermont to have anything online really it's not anything you don't have to post your warnings for any of your second readings on winning but you're offering this is a public service because more and more people are using the internet and it's unknown another way to get information out that's very convenient inaccessible for your town so that's basically what i did is i built that site sosa good example of kinds of information that you could put on a website and how to structure it how to organize it there's also i'm not sure you do you have front porch for enrichment so front porch form was one of the partners in this project that i was working on and so they built they have a a little calendar widget that what came out of this project is we had a front porch horn was given to the towns were working with but a lot of the towns wanted to have their citizens be able to add information to the counters by themselves by on their own and not just like one person in the town office have to be responsible for managing the town's community counter so they built an app that allows people to to if you're a member from porch form in richmond that you can add community events to it it's it costs extra money to do it now but it's a really i live in charlotte and we're saving up our pennies to be able to have that available because what's really nice about it is that community calendar can be put on any web site in town it can be put on a business website the town's website you know any website and you'll have the community calendar there in and few ever have and what's nice about front porch for now not only do they monitor your postings but they will monitor your calendar postings to so someone can put the the bar the local bars happy hours on the community counter you know that when you go but just about any event and if you want to get an idea of activity i think i have cambridge's counter on the website and that on the home page on the right hand side there's the little widget for it they are very active with their calendar and there's a ton of events on there all the time so you can see you can get it in that smaller widget form and you can also get i seven hundred pixel with that you can put on a page on the website you do you are you familiar with the cost to get that widget from porch for missing right now it's a seven hundred dollar one time purchase to be able to get that function i think it's well worth it especially if you're towns really invested in from so those are some of the then i've had a lot of interaction blackboards and town clerk sin town managers  what i do is not only help you with setting up the template and helping you to transfer content from if you have an old website to a new one and working on how you want your website to be structured by also help with training on how to use the content management system and there's a set of two torrijos on the eve of my broadband website that are particular to the template so those are online and they can be referenced anytime from for anyone that's using the website to be able to use the particular functions another thing that's nice about wordpress is that it's got a lot of flexibility there's a lot of these things called plugins which can add functionality so you don't have to go and hire a developer and spend two thousand dollars to be able to add a particular type of function is what i do if i'm going to choose a plugin and i do a lot of research to make sure that it's maintained secure you know it's worth your while but there's a lot of really great things out there that you can and you can download most of these things for free and install them very easily and be able to add functionality of your site like if you wanted to do an e mail list you know wordpress comes work press was built as a blogging software and but it is a website you can build a website with it too but if you wanted to have a blog you know use the blogging function say the town of fairfield really did a great job with adopting the template and they use it for a lot of they use it for their their town very well and they also use the blog function you can turn it on in a particular page if you have something in town they were talking about sidewalks and they want to get public comment as added to the website you know a way to get public comment so they just put the information on a page on their website and they're the comments section and people are able to submit their comments online so you can use it that way too so that's where i'm from and you can contact me if you want to you know move ahead with this and take a look at the template and go through all those pages and if there is information i built that template also so that if there's information that you want to have that's on that web site you can just copy and paste it and especially what would be helpful to have is a privacy policy a linking policy and web site policy and so there are examples of all three of those things on that template especially the website policy approved by the select board that lets the town know what the intent of your website is what's going to the content that's going to be on there and what's not going to be on there so people are saying well it's the town's website you know can i put this on there so that they understand that it's for official business for fishing town business mainly but there isn't it isn't to say that if your town doesn't have  you can't use the site for for business also it's just that with the it's not like written anywhere in any statute but that if you do run a government website that you should not have advertising on it because that's a conflict of interest so business directory you know you can list all the businesses in your town you can have a directory can be like a little chamber kind of thing but you just really i would highly recommend that you not do any advertising on the town's website so it has flexibility to become more of a you know a chamber site and way to so we  some point to take our ip address and give it to the state because they maintain the u r l of the domains then so that it could just point to whatever r p addresses in and you never have to update you never have to pay them you know that's for eternity bring a service that the state government offers everybody you know and i forgot to ask them and maybe you might know this but it would be also nice if we could get our our e mail addresses like town manager at richmond dobby did i got an i don't know if there was if it also helped that privilege as well i have to find out through gary go if you can do that yeah i have to find out i'm not quite  your domain it's your domain name now so i don't see why you couldn't use it as for your e mail address too but that's a good question that i can find out for you sure there's one more thing that i didn't want to tell you about also and even though this may give my business away to someone else the organization that ran the granta that i worked on for my own counsel role development is doing a follow up project to the original grant funded to help towns get online kind of thing and so i think they're calling it from on stage at all economy and they just received word that they were given a federal grant to do an eighteen month project that would work with they were going to be doing of working with towns that had been impacted by tropical storm irene which i know you guys did because i was over here putting it out houses accepted then you will get this website for free because they are going to be giving towns attempt but that is that has the all the functionality that you probably want on it and but you could still use these  websites on line for content or disagree samples of of you know putting discipline from ation on line so i would recommend that you contact paul castellano at the vermont council rule development find out how you can apply for the project and see if you can get in there because not only would you be able to there i think they're offering a temple but there's a lot of other services every month small business development center will be have working with small businesses in the town which they did in the last project to help them beef up their marketing and online presence so there is a think community college of vermont would be offering some courses for people to learn how to use the internet so there'd be a lot of services that you would be able to get and it would be for free so i'd highly recommend that you check that out to yes sure but for the presentation and the question which i don't know whether you have an estimate for that but you know my mind this is to be a wonderful benefit to bring to the temp i have concerned about what kind of costs tell and then incurred to maintain a site like this one is obviously that's not something we're doing implement the template for you which would need to set it up to work with a domain name manager to getting on your server or to set up the site to help you train with training and transfer content would be a thousand dollars and then after that it would be what i have done with towns that i've worked with i'm still in touch with towns that you know i don't provide consistent health but i am available if there is questions occasionally  but that you would have to be able to what's nice about the site is that it doesn't really have any problems you know that are tech too technical that usually if there is a tech go problem with it it has to do with the server hosting but they're like i said if you do want to have someone trained on your staff what with managing a website or any kind of organizational website there are what i what i would call like policies that you should develop for governance of the site which means who's going to decide what goes on the site and who's going to approve it and so all that of stuff should be figured out also so that there's a train of ok we need to get these and minutes on the website they're going to get handed after this person and then they're going to post it and then that whoever is assigned and i've helped other towns be able to make those decisions also in some towns did decide that it was important enough for them to dedicate some funds to to for someone part time to work to manage their website so that down the road i know you just sat through a little be end of your sewer and water budget but you know it's a matter of you prioritizing and what how you feel how important you feel it is for people in your town to have an access to twenty four seven really for me access to information and how you can manage that with your staff you know i can certainly guide you through that process too i mean it's not that we i mean jeff we do spend money on maintaining our website great i mean there was a warrant in there for our current web site host for hundred bucks or something great so it's not like we don't put money and we can't even control our content is that everything any time we need to change we have to pay our our current server our host to do that and so you know the cost on an annual basis i don't have to incur certainly hosting fees which there are posters out there that we just say this is our domain this is your post and we're us so it's not it's not like we already don't have something built into the budget i'm assuming it's part of the administration or it right the administration contract well with this  with this setup you would have to have you would have to be dependent on an external vendor you would be and that and the reason why i talked about governance is because that will you know if you're going to bring  in house and have me on staff you can't just dump it on somebody and say well you're doing this now and that's extra work because people we've all say well i don't want to learn that you know there's there's a lot of issues that can be personal issues so by building in  governance unended and understanding you know if someone's going to be taking this on and how are you going to do that and how will they be compensated or you know what the time commitment is going to be because your time commitment could be once all of the contents in there most of it's going to be static if you know your ordinances and you know a lot of that kind of information and maybe a couple sections of the website are going to have to change on a weekly basis you don't want th website to have like it's never been changed you know you would want to update the web the front page and and stuff like that but it may only be a matter of a clairvoyantly couple hours a week or something like that so once you get it in house and you figure out who's going to do what and who's going to create content who's going to prove it is going to post it it may just be a couple of hours a week of staff today so it's not like a whole big job that we're going to have to you know find funding for but there's some coordination and bot that needs to go into it before that happens washable we're paying and the time being wasted and what we put out there in order to get everyone trained to do what they need to update when they need to update well what's nice about having a content management system is that you can have you can have more than one person access right website and they would only if you could give them permission to just access one page of one section so the administrator would be to one or two at the most they would have access to the actual innards back who cause real problems if somebody got in there and didn't know what they were doing and then you could have different levels of commission an editor would be able to access the entire website and author would just get permission for a particular set of pages so that makes it really convenient to in terms of being that you know not being nervous about someone x being it and having access to the site and then document management because the state doesn't mandate that you archive anything on line now you really only need to keep a year or two minutes on the website at the most and after that you i what i recommend this two years at the most because you have server space you have to pay for it once you get a certain amount of gigabytes you're only you're paying for space for documents that you know are really just don't need to be there and so you can do a better job of managing your document or kind of to you know you'd have to have your town planet and a lot of other documents on there for a long time but there are some kind of documents you can make decisions about that are like well we're only going to keep a year's worth of minutes and then if somebody wants to see them they can't they can into the office where they have to be kept you know by statute anyway so that's how you could manage to document this and save money on your hosting space but i'm interested to know if if we can this is for a future figure we do spend on web site maintenance between our current service provider and our hosting fees and lists by the same people and domain domain purchase so i'd be interested to know how much we spent because then we could well i think for timeliness especially if you're thinking about you know other kinds of natural disasters or if you're thinking about communication systems know during i read i was i was focused on twitter and my twitter feed the whole time it is amazing how much twitter was used during the storm by people that were in the storm so there may be  ways that you would want to use the website or come up with the communicate online communication method for emergencies too and you would need to have more timely access to the website for them so yeah please check out the and to understand where she's coming from this is already the design is done to die development is done done so one thousand dollars when you look at a website exists and it would change you know  basic you know with some functionality websites now can be between ten and twenty thousand dollars so when she said pounds of well that's really nothing because mostly because they got the grant that she worked under craig developed the template she will now be any thoughts or comments before we move forward i appreciate the candor of your letter here and i think for the benefit of the people who are going to watch this meeting we got to read the letter but if you'll talk a little bit about why you're interested in this and what you bring conflicted that i never did have some civic responsibility to step forward and and try to bring some of those voices into the mix as we move forward so that was my principal perspectives and i think that hopefully to be able to move the community forward on this front in terms of revising that's on the document that i had some responsibilities so that was a major major as you know it last years tell me the voters approved of the charter amendment which was then introduced legislation passed by the legislature signed by the governor that are delinquent tax collectors year of the delinquents flick would tax report as of june thirtieth two thousand and eleven there was a total outstanding principal balance of one hundred eighty three thousand eight hundred  collector had collected ninety nine thousand five hundred thirty five dollars in principal and a year later she had collected two hundred fifty six thousand nine hundred thirty dollars which is a substantial amount of active so the brawl that level of outstanding taxes is for me fairly similar but collections have gone up  delinquent there are some questions i i really can't answer because i'm not intimately familiar with how she's done things so that the only good tax collector has a couple of options for collecting delinquent taxes one is she two years actually maybe three years wasn't the last one maybe two thousand and ten so it may be three years that we haven't had one  or right i think the last one was two thousand and ten so it's been three years i couldn't ask you why dory doesn't feel or answer your why worry doesn't feel that one is necessary this time but i'm sure she would be happy to talk amounts don't start to get of any consequence until two thousand and nine two thousand and ten which was thirteen thousand and fifteen dollars two thousand and ten two thousand and eleven thirty nine thousand four hundred twenty seven dollars in two thousand and eleven two thousand and twelve the the money that is earned by delinquencies is far greater than anything anybody can offer you for best and citibank nor your pricewaterhouse so perhaps having the delinquencies is not that it's a good thing but you're earning money taxes those taxes have to be paid to the town in full including all interest that is no to the town so not having a sale still provides money to the coffers even now it's delayed you still get that money when so what would be the next step shift for laura to come in and for us to interview her that would be a possibility since this is going to be a what forty point position so we should there's going to be questions about how that arrangement would work out in the future if i were you can bring forward perhaps present her own job description that would questionably outline how she has been doing things and of course if she got the position it would be in step with what the position had been but that lays out the form for you all to take a look and say i'd like this expanded or this doesn't look like it's working but it also puts the template out there for the next person and the next person and was money ever discussed about it and is not in the current market for funding of the payment of that person i have only been in the budget according to what we did holder in the budget but that's one of the few areas where it fluctuates so i would say that even if you decide to decrease the salary by a couple of percentage  points it still doesn't matter much in terms of how it's listed on the budget because it's still going to there's numbers are going to change according to the amount of elections the only exception would be if you paid a flat salary percentage beliefs you could tell yourself not just the interest ok so there's there's only the eight percent penalty that goes to the delinquent tax collector your town gets all of the interest brokers and we know what i read your review of the minutes from the january seventh two thousand and thirteen meaning of the richmond's look for somebody with i just had one and it might not even be necessary but page two line forty and if you read it in context you understand that john mchugh resigned from the planning commission but i just thought it might be prudent to to friday as friday and there's a breakfast meeting with western slopes business association plan for the morning of february twenty eighth that will  e western slopes members and richmond business owners and so western slopes will talk about what they're doing and it's kind of did discussion of our last meeting to the end of the meeting at big water rates kind of rose to the surface and how do we know how much you know the value of how much the town invested in the water system and as we try to bring businesses to town to move on to the water system we're located downtown what kind of conditions are water systems financially and what are the you know for of how you know if that can help grow the tax base then that's a benefit to the town as a whole so you know it's not like it's a tough discussion right yeah yeah because definitely you know use conversations so it's and it's it's not easy but we are making the investments in the town that we need to do in the in the water and the sewer infrastructure that we need so right but and so i guess the main concern is as part of that discussion with the with the diva streetlife that a lot of downtown businesses are definitely behind and a lot of people i think that there's a parking problem and this is really help  more businesses locate downtown but having the water line that runs right under the parking lot that adds an expense to the already strained water budget this is a challenge uses a lot of water and you know certainly something like car washes and laundromats and restaurants food processors brewpubs distilleries things like that and use it to use a significant amount of water and  waste water and so anybody wants to open  reports just take a look at the financial reports your budget status report and the back you have the budget to actual which i think historically that's a pretty good number and there are some votes there for some of the other items that consultants on the road it was budget two hundred and fifteen hundred was spent so that seven hundred fifty three percent over projected but no explanation no no i think we just paid a warrant  something that i would say that isn't the best rule because fifty percent o what would you consider snit well that is i don't think there's a standard i think if they give you a look if you're over your budgeting two hundred and you spent fifteen hundred so your seven hundred percent over then that's something that is worth a no but if it was you know fifteen hundred and you spent three thousand you know here you're one hundred percent for here at two hundred percent for doing the work on that but i think that's going to be one of the major pushes that that will happen is to update or policies and correct them for select board town manager form of government and if they would like to kind of be on the committee or be able to work with us outside of select board meetings on that forward policy review i think that would help speed things up so that we don't have to with any number of things delinquent tax collector issues they can meet that policy still stand outstanding as well as a number of just various internal policies and based on our first discussion we had perhaps some website policies are earn order with it maybe in lockstep with with reorganizing the website  a community we have a few people identified already but we certainly need more if you're interested please contact my office or the templates office and let her know that you'd be interested in serving in these training public to ask questions talk to people it's not a select board meeting but members as one were invited to attend so a him it's open to the public anybody that wants to know more about the new charter  amendments to get a chance to talk with myself and other town officials please come on violence ten o'clock to noon this saturday the twenty sixth richmond free library those are all the reports i it's up to you when you would like to time i think that we probably could discuss it at the february twenty first meeting not favorite place first of february eighteenth and that there would be my preference i mean i think know i move that we move our february eighteenth two thousand and thirteen meeting to february nineteenth which is a tuesday to accommodate presidents day second all right any prior to town meeting correct when are we going to do that i was thinking the last monday ok so that would be  village center designation off rising the renewal application and there's been a request for the use of roads for the in this bike green mountain getaway race which is yeah i'm kettles told me that but it's just telling side handle this building i think because the way it was designed that they were able to do certain things  on cape cod in september i need to raise fifteen hundred dollars so i'm going to be soliciting donations s