they're trying to see if they can get any additional work under warranty and they're going to reimburse us for the two bills you brought here first time when i went off on the second  right i see the planning commission those that didn't respond or haven't we did have a bit neutral on this have been disappointed so i think there are i think there's two things that we'd like to accomplish this through their sense that time i've done some research on the old man's versus the new math and in the minutes they clearly talk about scripts and season the range of that's a little bit of a state of flux and i'm privy to different information that i can't really share with you but there is still some information there this is just not clear so that's the main reason i  the only reason i voted against it was just not knowing the facts and i blame myself for not studying it more thoroughly reviewing it more thoroughly and then of course  controversy came up it just brought brought more to my attention so as i looked at it just said something just isn't right here and oh i'll tell you the difference in eighty six when those so when you're using older photography and in the process of drafting it was only meant that new to harper new photography comes out but shifts those two parcels so i'm not going to prove something that may or may not be correct i realize if we just would have gone through with the whole thing we would have to find it at that point but that still doesn't make it right you know so i just i just i'm still i'm still investigating further so that's my reason and i have to answer any questions with sofa zoning for the zone corresponds with the range boundary does it really matter where the range boundary is through this record of this map you're saying that this line bisects those two parcels the thought line was really intended to follow the range boundary to begin with  f that wasn't clear so you're showing something that's not correct i'm questioning whether that line is correct or not but yeah on the map that's the but the principle of the thing that the thing we were asking people to vote on  this makes our presentation inconsistent if we're not following the proper you know i understand that one area that we are everywhere else in town well not everywhere else and you have no no there's a logic where we didn't and ton to learn ok and i can make it to all of your meetings to understand what you guys are doing all the time so i hope i came into that meeting with only a certain amount of knowledge and i think that there's ways in which  we can make it so that i become more educated in what you're doing but with the amount of information i had of sitting in a meeting and i also didn't hear that there could be a conflict of interest there could be careful things like that so i've learned this at let's give it time it seven o'clock and seven ten i need to make a decision about it and i wish there would have been ability and maybe this is something i don't understand about our system of of me say who i just need a little more time to think here because i'm not saying what you guys are right or wrong i just needed time to to before i could say absolutely when i heard something like that as this is new testament to me i did not know these people ha felt this way and so when when i heard this i needed time to think so i said no because i wasn't sure i needed time to think i agree totally with what you guys are doing i agree with falling boundaries that's why i moved to mo move on the other three things i did it ok but but i didn't i did and so now if if i had had more time and someone could have assured me that there is no conflict of interest and you know and made me feel a make decisions that quickly and maybe the dishes and shouldn't be made that quickly i don't know and then we also meet this is this forever i mean can we go back and revisit this this boundary adjustment and keep working with this i mean why is it why does this seem ut some zoning on his property settlement here and then left and we had i think we spent maybe a whole session signing in going over conflict of interests some meetings before that so we were really prepped that in fact in our discussion of the conflict of interest we said should a commission member be penalized for appealing the board because he or she is volunteering his or her time to be on the commission because many people commission the board of us often and we thought that is unwarranted so he was going on and everything else so the sole evidence of conflict of interest was as you had a hard time finding one sentence or two sentences that actually explicitly said that there was no conflict of interest so that that was a bit of a blow to the to the committee in a sense  part of the conversation was conflict right to just learn more and find out the reality of your for me because i want to learn more here and now you're telling me about it but when i supposed to find out that meeting what it was it was an american made it made a whole policy about much i mean you know that's number one number two though fundamentally i think it is as someone who's being involved in the selling is it his dangerous president to do something it's only for or against with the explicit purpose of prohibiting one or two property owners from developing i mean you can develop you can say you know th work we want fifteen or ten acres everybody's involved in the reasons because it's scenic but here there's only one reason for that for the people complaining and that was this one per well maybe two because cat could do it too but so it wouldn't go to waste time rambling around and you sort of touched on some of it but i think it's worth saying anyone and under speaking for myself obviously it seems to me that a select board hearing on planning commission on proposal submitted for tom vote is basically designed to catch technical was poorly worded proposal source of missions displaying incompetence or violations of the town plan it seems to me an absence of that the select board should respect the planning commission's proposals and pass the proposals on for a vote by the time on the board proposals represent a good deal of careful work over the past year by the planning commission perry and a professional planner one of the underlying principles of all four proposals has to do with clarifying district orders by following mostly property borders or kasia only terrain features instead of the lines drawn by hand on my up some forty years ago following property lines rather than the one nine hundred seventy s hand drawn lines solves a serious problem what is that problem well because the district boundaries were just hand drawn the zoning administrator must arbitrarily decide where the district boundary is i consider this a serious problem because the arbitrary decision all was involved sizable monetary value clarifying district but underlines as a basic principle in all four proposals the fourth proposal the one you rejected saw as the particularly ridiculous district border situation in which a few properties are divided into districts with portions of these few properties standing in a fact in their own little district we strikes me as just plain ridiculous and unfair the hearsay statements about soil conditions they just amount to rumors anyway soil conditions vary in all districts and all properties are subject to one septic water or other regulations no matter what just and finally there seems to have been a brings me up or brings up a concern of mine is when i guess if you're going to make a change to a back to a map you're assuming that what you are through those two were there was the intent of the original zone is what i want to know what was the intent and when you read those minutes and i wish we had a copy of those minutes when you read those minutes they talk about these questions and then they talk about and i'm sure you've read have you read all these minutes from them when the original district was one leap ahead well there would be a fundamental place to start wouldn't it when you were trying to redistrict is it accurate oh no no i'm  reading the words in the minutes and the minutes describe the discrepancy is a valid reason and they said where these discrepancies were kind of trivial in nature or small in size that  the process is already going forward we cannot make a town meeting the only other option that we have at this point is to continue that the research that brad is doing hold a special election during here and go through this whole process again or wait until next that's not what i'm saying you are you know i'm not i mean i think the world is imperfect we're doing trying to do our best you guys are trying to do your best and if this is taking a little bit longer because the world is imperfect you know let's let that lie that's the way things are folks i guess well they just ease up a little bit to remember we've got a hard job here and we're doing the best we can and we want to do the best thing by everybody this is not done in any malicious manner and you guys are acting like we've been malicious in some way and i don't appreciate any of  a different issue from other property lines it's a it's a very it's not an easy line to define there's an acquisition that was done of the range believe it doesn't matter where the forget about where the lines again go back to your what you really want to do if we follow the boundary then the boundary is the boundary ok forget about where it is perfectly on the map right here following the boundary but what and i wish if you get a chance and it might not be right now i want you to know where we're going coming from here i stand by the second amendment but i do not want the government telling us what we can or can't buy ok one neighbor i was out on my property and i was writing to his door from my property where my bring in everything is probably fifty feet he's got on my property he has the right to shoot so my thing would be with him seeing me there you would see that there would be a consideration of respect something for your neighbor doing so and that's why and i can't look at him and we spoke i have spoken with them i mean i'm not on their terms him ok the one i have gotten when he first moved in and started shooting i said you know if you could just let me know idea where they're shooting i have no idea where the ball is going i know i have no idea if they know how to handle the gun or that you know if they've had safety training with a gun a gun is dangerous  be they have guidelines you know you have to be so many yards whatever from from made there they both have to get ready and i'm sure they picked a safe spot that's not the point he's not very far from my house and when he gram a hundred feet from your house and then you say also you can only do it between eight and five i mean that's all this is really even if you do the ordinance you guys would still be i think listening to this same thing if you're listening to the group inordinate really stop with what well livestock are going off their feet because of the noise one day i don't know what they're shooting was a large gun my horses didn't eat and they're expensive i've got a nice horse across a lot of money they have a lot of money there and i don't feel comfortable going on my arm i don't know where the where the boats are going to go so there's more there's a lot of issues that's not just one issue like the noise the noise how do i you me to feel safe and everything else to hire an engineer to come to some kind of machine and measure and the only way i can approach this is a noise issue forget the safety there you know that leaders one of them sad his answer to the shooting was don't worry i never  and then i attach this cute little yellow sign of my own that says caution german short pointers apply something like that underneath because my dogs roam around on the front lawn sometimes they're there are usually good about staying on the lawn but actually when reifler was a road foreman he came up at one point when my and asked me about the yellow sign he asked me if it was mine and i said yes and he said we can't have a town post right and i said that's not a town post it belongs to the range they're the ones that  only refused to return my sign but accused me of stealing a thirty five hour sign along with a bunch of other signs of being on a rope and he was yelling at me when he hit when he did this event told me that i had no right to put my sign of the post because it belonged to the town and if i wanted it back i needed town signs or do some detective find work and find out and find him before i could have my son's back i finally wason called him a jackass as i walked away from the other room there was another road crew member with him who just stood by and witness on treating him treating hostile folks out life if he's going to be in charge of a bunch of employees and i've heard from somebody else that he's lost his temper before and when he was working with rod for rob was able to calm him you know pulling back yeah you know but he's got an irish temper on him i mean he was physically abusive to me you can't do that no no no no i think he was i think his you know maybe at some budget time or the first of every year whatever it may be right after the new flood or get selected you know this year the you know we're going to continue buying for these people and that will and then you won't have to keep doing it for them but there fairfield is one of them so again if it's repetitive that wouldn't be necessary but if we need to x y z for their greed for two thousand dollars he needed proof from all three of us it meeting it depends on it it's fans that love as an emergency you know if it's in his budget probably no because incidental recurring purchases well i guess that wouldn't be one  yeah so yeah right so but just the types of things that you're purchasing to continue your operation that you have the budget lines for ready like the road materials and the equipment repair whatever those should be like on an dollars to use in next year's budget deal we call two years for that so so that means you have three hundred seventeen thousand dollars available till the end of this year they should be getting another about twenty five thousand dollars in state  for the highway so we have from now to june thirtieth i ask you made about three hundred forty three thousand dollars to spend and about two hundred thirty one thousand of that will be for payroll benefits insurance an infrastructure over the course we got a grant to pay for some of that that we had to pay twenty thousand dollars so if you don't have that two hundred thousand dollars left over you know your budget next year so it's i mean so i guess i would say unless it's really an emergency which it sounds like most of his things are good i would definitely try to put off as much as possible but you keep your machines right so you know so that was very very tight the the general accounting the general fund has four hundred forty eight thousand dollars right now but that includes thirty five thousand that we put in for the roof we're going to get some would say you know take that back out so we have we would have spent about unreserved about four hundred fifty six and the budget just getting the budget from now to the end of the but i just i guess i just want to i just want to say with regard to the hiring of school clothes but you know normally i just always works out well but i'm a very conservative for because they both kind of gave us what they thought we wanted and without us really telling them what we wanted them to get back it's kind of hard to do apples and apples in that type of stuff so what actually happened with the tech group came back with the best roses so he did two proposals when he came out and spoke to the slots board on he gave them a proposal for a foundation server and he came on the second proposal for a server almost identical to tech groups for three thousand nine hundred ninety nine dollars and he did that because not knowing what we were planning on using a server for if we needed something that strong a small business server or if we wanted to go with  again it's a best practices highest thing i did go online and you know found the basic h p probably and this particular model added in all the upgrades of their saying to put in there the two drives or whatever and you know i got it she like about four thousand a twelve dollars taking those facts they're saying forty three five think it's pretty close if rose is not his he said he's just he's building it i'm not sure what calories using but you know he's putting it together don't see that we would have the manufacturer you know direct to the manufacturer so for us when our business what do you have you don't have h p the operating system for the tech group is a two thousand and eleven and now for the check has recommended that we go to a then upgrade an h p switch it's a little bit more commercial re it is one gigabyte i asked david why he thought we should stay with the d link he didn't really want answer have a wireless access point that david doesn't want to use it so he's recommended to netgear home use wireless routers so that's the hardware and that's pretty much why one's only one is forty four and one is eighty two it's just you the amount of time they would take to install the time that they're talking about here on the check group is is pretty good and you know you just moved to groundless from pan's computer to my computer so that we now have all of your mark on one computer and the difficulty and where the time comes in is that you know you have to have that mean work technician and the definition that you have working here together and if  and some network assistance biannual review quarterly reviews but then again that's just remote support and but it also is that part of what you are talking about the previous books you know so it would make sure all the characters are up to i have we have three different we have three quarters they all came in they presented which you didn't attack and we've never understand but the reason the last quote from rose is this is because of the feedback from the office was they did not want to put me on read on a server they did not want email and so i said well you know how it stands right now we've been approved first server and we have proof for maintenance they're not interested in changing the email at this time so what would that look like for us and that's this latest form of the original quote was what he anything and i think it's perfectly alright for anyone in the office to call anybody who's trying to sell us something and ask them questions and also based on what the select board tasked us w you guys do it right you want and do it it's of course i'm like you want to get some information like you said with your man things borders so so we got some information we did talk to the professionals you know the people at tech group  i don't really know enough about all of this stuff all i know is that we need a server that i think there needs to be on the server i think docs probably needs a computer based on and that was around the regional proposal but i got i got a lot of feedback that i shouldn't be talked and we went through this whole thing in everything the more i realize that she went down we could be down for a day and a half or two days away like ok makes sense to put it there so i was just talking it out basically so this is great so we do see that everybody in the ok i'm just trying to just say you know appreciate the work that i do she she did get three people they all came here to give us a lot of pamela's here so i appreciate you doing i'm glad we're all now on the same page so let's try to i wouldn't even know what to ask what to do any of that stuff i email here from todd over there jeremy you know we had to use the tech group however we are not very pleased with the installation of our servers so we do not use them very much since was for the tech group is because the tech group has municipal experience where rose doesn't and that's the sort of if you if you compare apples to apples so you got three people coming and you compare apples apples roses quote is six thousand nine hundred forty three come first them small business server seventy to eighty four following managed that's way below tech groups and he has  quotes also when he said you know you're probably getting your money's worth for each one that you're getting because one is the high end best practices and one is not the high end that's practices but they're both adequate and they both serve your needs and it's all a matter of how much you want to spend and what do you want to do i frankly found david rhodes to be a liar because he called back and left a message on my machine with a you know i would say he liked my face but he was doing it for machine so that immediately  put him off my list i found him to be uncooperative in answering my questions when i wanted to know why my keep being leaked you know didn't want to go there didn't want to answer it when i asked him about oh you know  start and sometimes they come out they may say which we would if we took this program well they don't pay for you would have to pay if they came out you have to really if it's good guidelines on there because sometimes they do it remote but if they're already in the field and close by th we're required to have a record keeping purposes i would have to be a record keeper for this like poor that slide forward should not have personal e mail and if they do have personal e mail you to have a designated because throwing in a public records which means that every single email that any one of you sense to anybody you have to see see me and i have to manually keep that somewhere chris which is crazy pay me twenty dollars an hour to manage your emails and so on but they recommend suggested first it says that you have to have a designated custodian public records for board related emails on now is the time to establish more on this because starting should receive a close copy of the work emails additionally the town should probably establish a town based email system whereby they're recommending that you should have a town my email account should be on your server it should be managed right now the way that we do email it's stored on each of our individual p c s it's not backed up those are public records you so if you decide that you're not going to have hosted mail just to stay with comcast then you're going to have to tell me here on the record that because the staff wants to keep current e mail you are willing and knowingly making a what they're selling so i get that i truly see that there's a bit i would consider more of a staff issue of coming to but not everything comes to an even vote you know know everything and that and you know we need and to decide who to work with because we know they say that but i think the money thing comes back to us correct right right and if you and if you if we say that we want to work with taxes and you say