how they can they can they can talk more about that another business but i thought i'd just siliguri exactly not no i don't have any concerns i'm concerned that there isn't a legal ownership to the process if you only use settlement at the last the town doesn't have to own the  process that we're in that may have happened way back and that's why people are doing research now because it could have happened way back in the one nine hundred girl in one thousand nine hundred because the town has been taking care of it just the last one we looked at was in the thirty's but it could be even further back that they actually the records say that the town was you know it and they then nobody took care of it or they said you take care of it and so it's a matter of finding that but in the meantime i tell the lawyer castle cemetery and the cemetery so i mean we don't know whether they just quit electing because nobody wanted to and then it defaulted to this like it was one year it was the last of the elected commissioners and then the next year and since then it's been like for that there was you would share that information with us at those some point come public no i think you're trying to operate in good faith on the part of it that you would have any objection and that might answer this concern obligation in the law for you to pay for private senator yesterday where it says if three wks is come forward and say the station claim that it is a band that we are required to take the town doesn't need to go through the process of advertising for three months to see if anyone is willing to come forward and take care of that process to see if the owner will come forward it's a process to see the some one step  history yes it for me i'm not trying to prolong this conversation here but i have tried to come to the town regarding the issue that i have with a town about property corners and so forth i suggested to the town and it had never moved forward they tried to give me a contract or sometimes something to sign but i said in my attorney's more than one and i'm very up to date on the issues on line in that i own a fair amount of land and one what size it is or anything or between the town and the church their homes on one side after the survey was completed by brad holden didn't matter who before or anything else if we said here are going to be the corners of the cemetery and we all recognize these four corners just talking about it like that that we all say what they are and then at the same time you would give us one that you know have any interest in our land which i don't see you trying to claim any land but it would settle the boundaries of that piece of property as far as all the in this situation at this time farce these protests that's correct now if the brown family or somebody and i heard your version to get out there that they could stay alone or anything they'd never come forward you're not trying to say you owned the which is a surface or subsurface area from or through which contaminants are reasonably likely to reach the public courses so whether it's one whatever whatever that that particular area protection with the fight to is given to the state it's in the state records we can presume that that was adequately peer reviewed at the time or ho way to go as opposed to say well maybe it's only a two percent campus or five percent chance or we're going to let those people suffer without probability of getting sick or whatever problems  up sufficient funds so the water systems within the state can go there and borrow money to zero interest and having been through this process i know there's a laundry list of  projects but i have a number of wants and interested if they would do they would pay for a study like what i'm suggesting could be done here they also would pay for assisting in writing the gran that we have a significant political here or private property like the study i think it could be done i don't know what the answers would be but it's conceivable yes i mean these are very significant periods to the downside is raising i didn't get that far in it but by proposing this i don't know what the answers would be but i think there's a lot of potential for the town to leave the everywhere where there is a protect area for whatever kind of wish to occur there could be some financial advantages a new people who are no painful water paint to operate systems as an example of our water system over here  they have the distribution system have to distribution systems in the foothills in jericho east the logical next step would be to investigate the feasibility of the jerk to village water district expanding its distribution tender to do it sooner we had a definite in his family so wasn't able to get is who did they went up to yesterday to do that and found that there was some description discrepancy as i understood between the base of the boundaries of the anyway so this morning brad met with david trudeau on the site and the short of it is to discuss the descr concerned you had thirty days to fix the problem i was going to take care now do you recall i had to be fairly accurate three what's taken place not sure  down with this problem for three years it got down to what i just described and what i told you was that if you didn't get it fix your bill because you're the people that lost those corners of the fences and you could say debate that question or anything else but i'm just saying that's my position ok i didn't get fixed in three years or whatever and the last time i met here i said if you didn't get those four corners abreast and show that the town was acting in good faith to try to get this thing done i told him that his office he don't recall that i had reached so forth but that was passed  finish please so then i have not received any messages and communications or anything that's gone on between brad holden and the town or anything else to make want to say that i'm getting cooperation here and maybe it's beyond their control not to get this done which is bunch of hogwash in my mind but even if you were attempting to try to make me believe this and whatever over a three year plans piece of that they said there are a lot of big picture questions about storm water and septic the other night and those are important pertinent questions they were in their words they were and they weren't because the master plan that was presented the other night was an illustrative illustrated master example of how it could look but at some point there's going to have to be a master plan there's a development master plan for that property that really is based on a national service yet that is really based on national service that really does take into account septic storm water all those kinds of things so that needs to be created at some point is that how does that happen in a couple different ways but let me tell you things that need to happen first and we can talk about how it can happen he definitely does only needs to be in place we're going to take care of that that's already within the scope of the existing project we have to discover the existing project we have is creating an actual development plan for the property and of engineers architects landscape architects things like that to put that together right this could be a technical plan and also there's the marketing aspect of the project so maybe there's a marketing package that gets put together that includes a master plan that  and that's your money and i do feel like they're uniquely qualified to perform those services because for things like market studies and traffic study got a lot of people who could perform that but i feel like they have a specialist understanding of village centers and mix centers and how those operate that maybe a typical engineering firm does and then secondly in terms of creating the development plan they already have so much on paper they can offer it to us at cut rate and they also have such a great understanding of the personalities of the which is great yeah yeah i think for the first time people thought you know we've been through this is been going on for a long while before you and people go through it a lot and there's a tendency you know every time how we did it last year and if you recall by the time we got to the end it was right that's right you know in general this is going to be interesting budget year because we have two things going on one is last year the borders decided to i n essence budget deficit because they chose to budget the money received from the state police as revenue towards this year's budget which means going into next year we're essentially starting even if our expenditures remain level we need to really raise eighty thousand dollars more in tax revenue just to cover the amount of spending in the current year his taxes so that equates to about almost three and a half percent like to do we think it's necessary to do it keep the funding for the road up the gravel road upgrade it a hundred thousand and then but i was able to figure out a lot of dollars can't remember the last time since is in general if we were to increase funding for gravel road by another hope by another hundred thousand one hundred two hundred that hundred thousand dollars would allow us on average to add three inches of gravel to four miles of gravel roads every year and the idea is that we could do a six to seven year rotation rotation it would the amount in the length and the time would depend on the  road a road like natural road is going to need more than a road like fields lane but the general idea is to be routinely adding gravel back to roads that would maintain a better vigil dish maintain a better  that gravel than it did prior to adding it so that's a general idea of those two so those to account for it significant increase in the in the spending that staff is proposing a little crown it was a little it was fairly narrow two cars could fit but it was pretty narrow and there were deep ditches on either side like it and then after a time like if you're flooding and it looked like it had like holes in it which was in there and then they fixed it and they came in and they fixed it and then in then it looks now it's really why it has little depression but  no ditch and i think there's two feet of gravel in these depression and you know garrett i know that the gravel is living down there and when they rebuilt with all it used to be this i think this is all the gr right but that's also why we have to be as you recall in the capital budget we're we've included the addition of purchasing a small medium sized excavator so that instead of spending the th yeah i mean it doesn't look that way because overall it's less than the budget last year but if you compare it to the year before it's one hundred thousand dollars we're willing to spend over the economic downturn i mean in principle would have been even more susceptible i mean our road looks like that once you know that big sections that gigantic long straight down the hill that was obliterated the first section  build up along side of the road from the snowplow and from grading and what happens is the water doesn't isn't able to get into the ditch and it stays on the road and because road surface is soft now you lose all the crowning on the road and i think in addition to putting this you know resurfacing the gravel roads we do need to do the maintenance to periodic like pull those berms back in so that the ditches do what they're supposed to do  smaller than that on state highways you know in the midwest where i grew up floods happen in slow motion they don't happen in slow motion around here and so you got to kind of be prepared for it for the upcoming character here so i'm usually budgeting increase for the first six months of the fiscal year voting for and then he resign top of that for the second month because i don't know what the premiums individual their maximum exposure is two hundred fifty dollars for a single plan a two person and family plan it's five hundred dollars and that's because we're under that's because we're under a high deductible plan and when the town contribution may not have any out of pocket expense in the in the given year for that for the health connect to the richest plane you could offer only covers  i think it's ninety percent of possible out of pocket costs whereas the town was essentially covering their you know ninety seven ninety eight ninety nine percent depending on you know depending on the plan so the employee and the town are paying more premium wise for a plan that doesn't cover as as much of the possible out of pocket maximum right now the way  it was decided for the new plans for a single one person plan there's a maximum out of pocket the expense of two thousand five hundred employees is there for a family it's the total pocket maximum is is five thousand and they will be responsible for twenty five hundred of the town will be providing on the other hand this one covers a lot of preventative stuff that the other plans haven't and nobody knows exactly what's going to be right gotta watch out because you're prevention is really covered  what it was like a few years ago when they had a more traditional plan and you had co pays and co insurance and you're not you're only paying ten dollars for a specialist visit get up paying the four hundred whatever they might charge y their work with part time hours equivalent to one full time position with the addition of one full time position reducing the part time hours to the equivalent of the in the summer to haul gravel and in the winter time to be on call for plan also reducing the number of hours budgeted for the big question really is for january what i'm proposing this is what we did last year is we'd have our regular first and third thursday meetings for finishing up about the budget so that would be the only thing that would be on that evening of january thirtieth so i'm that would be programs that's been submitted to the state that's close fifty thousand dollars of that came up with for governor pac growth that we spent there greg and let me know that he's going to be retiring within two i imagine they'll come from of the board that even though that you're retiring with two years i don't think we're going to be in any rush to replace you quickly before that because of the institutional knowledge that he has  work in that she left a little tired tonight yeah i know that the we hired the final second new highway guy he's everything's working great we have now five full time having a town meeting because there were elected cemetery commissioners at one point so we don't know how that starts to not stop when it even stop started whether they had a so if there is any problem with anybody else meeting it we can change the date