public hearing would be the goal that a public hearing would be the formal public presentation of the draft who presumably i thought appoint any changes recommendations that we had kind of the back and forth from brian and the goal would be to have right here ideally or at least on the phone to to do the presentation to the public rather than us to the presentation can start getting a little bit more engaged that's not to say that what we're doing here is important that is i'm not trying to rush anybody i'm just trying to balance that with keeping this process moving here ok with that let's take a look through here do we want to know how you guys want to do this you want to is going to poke through for the first changes go through or do you have some specific things responses if that's the case of recommend maybe going through it on the screen with it every time i am click on a comment it'll go to their yeah in there and there's even comments or things that he made reading green so there's one thing where ok so the next comment refers to the same thing for the tea for and that's why that is permitted in the tea floor because in that milledge center you might have someone who wants to be pulled up to the front area of the primary struct and is therefore not constrained by whatever architectural limitations are for the main twelve well that's a different question yeah that's a different question that was just the size of my ho definition of the public thoroughfare space the front yard is intended to be visually continuous with the yards of adjacent buildings in the back yard can be secured for privacy by fences in the well placed back building or out building provides private space for the occupants so he's just kind of explaining some confusion over the over these types the yard types and maybe another explanation would be good community garden bed and breakfast retail specialty store less than or equal to three thousand square feet so there have been a common why are so why the city buildings have to go in front of the d or b and and you know rather than responding to that directly i reminded brian that is like ok great so add those two and as opposed to like oh here's here's the thinking behind the trees that are allowed not allowed it's but it's sort of like oh you want those great whatever and not to have a thoughtful response around but what makes sense and why well i feel very strongly that we spend a lot of time saying that that doesn't belong in your sentence i think that's a really good thing for that for any commission's comments to decipher and i may go there i may be the only one but i want to know what actually are we looking at the words history thirteen point four point thirteen point two point one you know about that right here so what you want so i've i see a distinction here in the maybe i'm parsing here is but it doesn't say fuel cells assist fuel pumps now to me that means there could be somebody that has their own fuel pumps but we were down this road before he seemed to be you know and just recently you know when you bring up a good question but yeah you know and again just to take a step back from the the details we're doing here keeping in mind what our role here is to provide input on this to the select board it's not necessarily to change it and if there's stuff we have got to we put our reporter there stuff you know and hopefully they will give some w you talk much about it except to say that you know i just kind of let him know that some people were uncomfortable with a more like aspirational language if you will of the composition section and the technical language and  and he just expressed confidence that that an architect would be able to use this section and find a section useful in terms of just sort of an intro overall concept of he's looking for there were any changes made to this at this time but how do you look at the type of material you have but i just i for the life of me i don't understand why you can't i mean just because people have said this is pretty bad isn't pretty doesn't that's yet but it's just less random what what from my perspective that you are saying my perspective is is this is that he took the examples that he was given from our community of what they saw as good or texture and in seeing what and seeing what was already here and these regulations are drawn up to guide any future new i've been trying to think in my head ok what's an example of that that i can have as a visual because i need of the i think i hear the concern if you go down packard road there's some really nice construction they're slightly different variations of grey but it does not fit in my my view with the surroundings so the patterns in the houses there you go through jericho east and there's a whole range of different house type shapes colors and stuff like that i'm not sure if when jericho east was built if they had if they had architectural design  box buildings like jerry build those which was free zone because the because the martin's had the foresight to say hey we want to have something that has a distinct character and it will fit in with this town we want them to be something to be proud of it has its own brand its own feel that it's here and it's not just anywhere else and i think that's an example in this town of what these regulations are are trying to go the regulations are trying to me thrilled about taking it out but it wouldn't end the world if you if everybody thought that it should go sacrifice if you want to take it out y but if you want to take out the fact that the design wouldn't be repeated you can take that out and they're not a good idea but i see a lot of them hanging off necessarily an advocate of this cold like in general however i think that like either have the cold or you don't they were kind of like trying to run in between drinks most of the  then also just make sure that the surrounding area isn't any new construction that happens there if somebody happens deceptive as one of their lots into another building lot and build a new house it comports with what's already there and that was the main thrust of the comments from the point of losing is that they want to whatever was new here to fit in with what it was already there as opposed to introducing a lot of new modern modern architecture and so you know it's a crank saying if you like the vision and up tight with the streets so you could walk or ride your bike so it's a compact it's a new compact village center in a rural settings so that's why it's hard to get used to some of these ideas like things being pulled up to the street trust you to go and create coding like a computer programmer would create coding that puts this insulting language for us because we're not going to write a form based code but you do it all the time so give us coding language that translates that vision into a code and so there's an element of trust here which is difficult to trust him to have done his job as a consultant correctly or you don't kind of i'm not trying to be blunt about it is kind of all they're saying now we  people live now is all this lavender area along route fifteen here like this and these homes down here at the end of a park street and this is this is what new construction could look like in the t three districts i was just  happen more often if there was a little thriving commercial village center here you know people would think about it to be more demand so i think it would help property values in the end in that regard i'm sure people would have a better property value living next to  around what we're trying to do here we came into this with the idea that ok we didn't feel like we we had enough questions we were quite ready to move forward to make a decision said in our concerns to the consultant he's replied we've reviewed them now and it seems like we've sort of have erms around what his replies were how we feel about that  ok let's take a pause from this you know let's open it up for some public comment people have questions statement you want to make anything like that if you would just raise your hand up call in proposed here is quite quite a change from our historical rules of zoning you can build commercial here and you build houses here and so on i think the general idea is a very good one would probably go way too far and specificity in over the years will slowly come back and drop some of those specifications but i think the idea behind these these concepts and always reading is to have i were in the way i would not want to have any of these things host of others and what a bill where i work you bill if i live in the village i would like it to be a village and it's highly unlikely it seems to have a vision of what we want to have then i think the developers have something that they have to follow and i would hope that that fourteen acres or whatever it is is just you know up in a thoughtful but relative however many thousands of acres in the town here to this very small piece of property that there still are other parts of the town to the other way is so overall i really like the direction and that over time the specificity will probably wind itself that we see less practical but it's much easier to unwind the specificity than it is to take structures greater than three thousand square feet in many categories is made and not conditional unless i was reading and probably almost every category i saw greater than three thousand square feet which is kind of like fuel cells i don't think it's consistent with the current regulations and i think since scale and density is one of the risks of the plan is that it's too much scale and it's too much density to have the pendulum swung that far over to me and not have that conditional review is something that i'm worried about and it's kind of similar family plan developments where there's open space to build space that is there any consideration of how much space remains and not opening the fields but just so that it's not so way the great scale because feeling and you know have a lot of density and wanting to look like what we have the density ratio to me is really important the comments about before i came to the ice i thought there should be no duplication of structures at all that if somebody wanted to develop three or four buildings then every every single one of them should be defined in some regard country and the academic economic data is you know statistics you can always manipulate statistics but it is pretty clear that property values have gone up businesses have been attracted to the people who have become more apt to health status indicators have improved i'm sure there is detractors and not every story is a grades excess but there's a reason why it's pretty tough because that shows that it's good for the community so thank you it's not just about hysterics and i think it's really hard when you are really courageous and there are you know everyone is not going to instantly think it's a great idea to be told what to do with their property but that's not what you're that's not what you're doing what you're trying to do is what gen community is yearning for a walkable community center where we can have our every day you do that here and not have to drive fifty miles to go everywhere then if i were developer i would love to develop in this kind of space and hopefully it would be smaller develop those that are willing to take the risk because there's a future and not one big nasty project and i think that if you look at the regulations there's tons of flexibility for an architect to a vision of a building that's different than the building right next  to really benefit the town as the end the town that everybody loves to come into and lit up this little section is somewhat historical it characters i mean you know who who can afford to build a house with all this fancy stuff a lot of people with money is that what you want to attract but you're ca up think about it you're going to lose people because they can't afford living in this town i mean i washed my house i've been here thirty years i have some big grand scheme about what happened quite from our what happened why is it not quite and why do we need something so pan thank you thank you so you know the public  him he's made changes like of another crash in response to our questions or concerns which we've reviewed tonight and we seem to be generally pleased with the changes that you ma role to adopt these regulations with or without my understanding from them telling me was that they were looking for us to propose recommendations to these draft regulations that we felt would be a good in between so brian so here's the code and then we're going to test the code the code we look at the code and then the code then goes a slight board untouched by us and we are going to sign a document that says with changes only to correct technical deficiencies to the legislative bodies in the minas appellee mean they can't make any changes or recommending changes together with the recommendation of opinion it considers a program so they're going to give this like board a recommendation of opinion into that they're going to attach this sort of dummy document that has proposed language changes but because the original cocaine from the slap or the stuff where it still has the original co our process it goes to the slick or they will have at least one public hearing they'll be taking public comment and they will make a decision on whether to approve it in whatever form they end up approving it or get to but before we wrap this up we also have to take this step back in the picture we were asking if you hear people are interested people who are concerned people are supportive they want to get it out there so at this point having gone through where we're at  and additionally i believe there was a mailing that went out to the property owners affected for this meeting and we will continue to do that so hopefully that was helpful to you to make sure you're aware of this process whether you're happy about or not that's a different story i appreciate that but it's important obviously that you know what's going on but you keep track of it and your voice is heard and so that's that work look at it and came up with we needed to talk about what that meant for property owners in the commercial district because that correct me if i'm wrong that was a while before that the word said that it wouldn't be allowed anywhere this issue and i said all right a very good a good definition of the for an electronic changeable changeable copy message board that would be very specific to what you wanted for school and he was like he was like yeah that's really hard to specify the technology they're going to feed what i was saying last time like a specific you want to get on changing technology and it's a very said what about just saying an electronic sign and then he was could have a big plastic sign that's got light bulbs inside it announcing it's story hours but i don't know if that was what you were going for or if you were going more for the message board in front of a school and then we looked at some melody message boards that have plastic casing above and and you know like on the plastic casing above the message read out i guess you'd have to be ok with that if you went with internally let me just write that again a variable message and you're just under generally allowed science you could just say one of the one changeable copy electronic message board shall be allowed per school for the first school ok so you're looking for a motion two men previously voted item regarding internet scientists to amend it to say that changeable electronic message boards will be allowed for all public schools subject to the following conditions and we're making an additional amendment to the details that were approved on item number one change from one sign permissible building to one signed for school change that to changeable electronic message boards to be allowed for all public school buildings subject to the following conditions and item number one of the conditions change to one message board per school building a public school public school decided that that only the message board isn't internally let signs now conversely the internally let science that have always been allowed in the commercial district are now expanded to include the message boards right we don't want restrictions are correct without the restrictions that you just added for the schools only my understanding was that you like that all internally what sites were banned in town disliked work to come out understanding incorrect so they haven't done anything officially until they're done with all their public hearings also i can't say i this recommendation that deals with schools right we don't necessarily want them to put this scene if they don't do anything about internally let signs down because then to your point we just thr that right we've set a new precedent now in the town for what we call internally listen before i who has a certain recipe because of course the appeal before it was it was planning staffs opinion that deer be overturned staff decision and said yes the message boards are internally listenings which which so meant that the site was banned at the school but it wasn't because there were any