kind of narcotics police in colombia the other thing is i've heard from the gentleman from georgia in the general arizona that the vast majority of graduates from the school go on to to serve their countries honorably how do we know there was no follow up done by the school  defense the fact the only reason we know about the notorious case is because of the hard work that goes on by human rights organizations on the ground and people in our own state department so that's how we know what there's no follow up there's no basis to say that the majority go on to  to serve their country john with we don't know that at this point mr chairman i feel two men is the gentleman from massachusetts mr meehan general from massachusetts recognized for two minutes as chairman i rise today in strong support of the amendment offered by my friend from massachusetts mr mcgovern not long into my first term in congress back in one nine hundred ninety three an article was published in newsweek titled running a school to dictate it's about the school of the americas the school of america's was supposed to instill democratic values in foreign military offices and it was exposed to being a breeding ground for murderous these uncommon thugs i said at the time that at the school of the americans held in the long night association meeting it would bring together some of the most unsavory thugs in the western hemisphere thankfully the school of america was a closed in one nine hundred ninety nine but soon after when sex opened in the same building with much of the same faculty that has been pot of the school of america's when six record has been little better than the school of the americas many of its graduates have returned to their home countries to repress abuse and kill fellow citizens that can be no doubt that our own recent record on human rights leaves something could be desired we've operated secret prisons propped up corrupt regimes and overlooked human rights abuses and others the administration has done little to hide its contempt for international conventions on human rights notably the geneva convention and the protections that it contains for enemy combatants our own recent record has been bad enough but we certainly don't need to be exporting techniques overseas by teaching them that when second our credibility in the world is at its lowest point in memory the road back to respectability will be long in slow cutting funding for one sector is a small step in the right direction jim gentleman from arizona has four and one half minutes remaining little but the gentleman from massachusetts has one half minute remaining for what purposes generated from your cross i rise to strike the last word gen knowledge for five minutes i rise in support of this man i'm a co sponsor of the bill sponsored by the gentleman from massachusetts that would accomplish a similar goal and i appreciate the opportunity to discuss the issue of when second on the floor today what we are witnessing with regard to when sec is a classic case of history repeating itself for years many members of congress and activists including mary nell nuns based in my congressional district fought to shut down the notorious school of the americas the school very existence was undermining u s efforts to promote civilian control of the military and respect the human rights in latin america so the army to the way and we opened it a few weeks later with a new name to quote william william shakespeare a rose by any other name would still smell as sweet indeed when sec is just another name the school of the americas and neither of them passes the smell test the same all issues still plague the institution and the us military still refuses to take commonsense steps to fix the problem as my colleague from massachusetts has pointed out the vet process to students that when sec is still broken resulting in known human rights abusers attending the school d o d s still refuses to monitor the careers of wind sec read to it preferring to be kept in the dark about how u s military education is applied in latin american countries and pass questions about the school of the americas have still not been answered giving us on which to build a better more credible and more effective program that when second i understand that the majority of when sex funding does not come from this bill but i believe the amendment be forced to day provides an excellent opportunity to send the message that we still can't stomach the continued reckless use of our military training dollars i urge my colleagues to support this genuinely want to show an america that our priorities are not the military but development of democracy and let's establish a western hemisphere institute for judicial reform for civil engineering for local governance for rural development for human rights let's show latin america we get the gentleman has expired gentleman from arizona has four and one half minutes remaining but mr chairman i will not take four and a half let me just close i think we've had a thorough debate on this i said this is an issue that we have debated over and over again and i think time and again it's been shown that the this program of training military and police officers in latin america is one that's good good for democracy good for human rights good for us relationships with these countries in latin america central america this is a program that's good for the united states it's a program that's good for the countries that are involved in the program that if anything ought to be expanded we should be doing more of this more transfer of values from the united states to the people of these countries to the law enforcement and military of these countries is what we in venezuela are we to conclude from that that if only he had gone to the school then the school of the americas everything would have been well probably not but by the same token one can hardly conclude that because somebody has gone to the school of americas and still ends up doing something that is bad that overall it is bad for the united states or for their country or for the human rights of the citizens of that country because it's not it's a good program it's a program that spreads democracy in the western hemisphere it's the kind of program we should be supporting not the kind of program that we should be opposing and i hope that my colleagues will soundly defeat this amendment as they have done in the past and with six rule eighteen for the proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from massachusetts will be postponed what purposes jollity from florida russ this chairman to have an amendment at the desk clerk will designate the amendment amendment number three chairman i will rise to claim the time in opposition in general control the time an opposition generated from ford is recognized for five minutes thank you very much mr chairman for the opportunity to speak about this amendment on the foreign operations appropriations bill before us let me remind my colleagues that the mexican government publishes manuals giving advice to my migrants on how to illegally enter and live in the united states without being detected they're encouraging breaking our laws moreover recently if we recall the mexican government actually threatened to sue the united states if our government a dis strengthen and defend our southern border imagine how surprised i was when the committee added another million dollar increase that mexico will ostensibly use to strengthen its northern border this increase is over the budget request and in the international narcotics control and law enforcement section my amendment will actually leave the thirty nine million included in the budget request for narcotics control and law enforcement untouched instead eliminates that one million dollars that the committee recommended to be used to help mexico's northern border infrastructure let's face it they're not interested in defending and protecting their northern border which is our southern border in past years mexico actually spent the money appropriated for narcotics control and law enforcement in even a questionable manner however sending extra money to the mexican government to strengthen their borders is i believe as insane as it is in con gentleman from arizona directness for five minutes mr chairman i do rise in opposition to the amendment offered by the gentle lady she proposes that she said to reduce the funding up to mexico for the international narcotics control law enforcement account we call in calais from forty million to thirty nine million dollars it's only a one million dollar reduction but it's symbolic and i understand that but i think it runs as a symbol it runs counter to what we've been asking the mexican government to do and that is to help us seal the border with regard to drug trafficking coming across the border i have the privilege of sharing the u s mexico in a parliamentary group and we met this year in mexico legislators members of congress from both the united states and mexico meeting there we were struck i think every member of the u s delegation was struck by the degree of cooperation that we're seeing now from mexico particularly the mexican policy makers the congress in struggling against the drug trafficking and actually have been very good on that for several years but now the efforts they're making to help try and seal the border is certainly the most most cooperation that we have seen in the last twenty years and in fact the mexican congress has adopted unanimously a joint resolution expressing their commitment to helping resolve in expressing their their acknowledgement that they have a responsibility for helping to control the problems of migration the illegal migration coming into the united states the bill that we brought before you is a very modest increase of one million dollar increase over the previous year to mexico to help to try and control the border and the majority of this goes to sustain border and port security by improving the ports of entry and proving the inspections  more secure traffic laws mobile interdiction teams a national crime databases these are all good things these are the kinds of things that we should want to support in criminal justice an institution building in mexico and including the o attorney general and i corruption programs so i think it's a it's a a good program and i think it's one that deserves to have its support let me be clear about one fact the funds in this account are used by mexico help stop narcotics from entering the united states cutting funding in this area doesn't really hurt mexico as it isn't anything that has to do with their own law enforcement per se it hurts our efforts to keep drugs off of our streets and out of our schools i think this amendment from this won't have a huge effect but as a symbol i think is the wrong kind of signal that we should be sending to mexico and i do oppose the amendment i reserve the balance of my time border are the ones on our side are the ones doing the intersection of the drugs this amount well it is a million dollars and the guest in washington everybody says it's only a million i you know a million here a million there starts to add up i would certainly encourage support for this amendment because if we're going to spend that extra million dollars i'd rather give it to the sheriffs in the border  offered by mr weiner of new york pursuant to the order the house of june two thousand and six the gentleman from new york mr winner and a member opposed each will control ten minutes on this amendment gentleman from arizona this bill from going to the saudi arabians you might be asking a couple of questions first you might be asking why we'd be offering any add it all to the wealthiest nation on earth why would be offering any aid at all to a nation that exports a hobby isn't exported terrorism has done nothing to help us in iraq has frankly not been constructive and on top of all of that why are we offering it when consistently every single year this house says we're not going to support it well we're back here again because we here in this house did not heed the admonition of of president bush after september eleventh when he said you know nowadays we have to not look at what nations say we have to start looking at what they actually do and the fact is despite the great rhetoric of the people of saudi arabia and their government they continue to be a force of hate in the world continue to be a force that exports terrorism the  give you an example just since we passed this bill last time this is a quotation from the south the saudi ambassador from an ad in the new republic on the back cover december twelfth two thousand and five it says modernizing our school curriculum better prepare our children for the challenges morrow saudi arabia has vowed to fight evil with justice and challenge extremism with moderation and tolerance that's the what they say i'm holding in my hand the government sponsored textbook of the people of saudi arabia mr chairman i'm holding a book that is in classrooms today let me tell you some of the things they're teaching in the eighth grade from their textbooks today quote the apes are jews the keepers of the sabbath while the swine are the christian infidels of the communion of jesus that's what this text book says the children in the eighth grade in saudi arabia are being taught today and if we're to pass this bill as it is we're going to pass in  funding for saudi arabia from the us taxpayer let me tell you what let me show you what they're teaching in the ninth grade this is the saudi ministry this is the textbook that's issued by the government of saudi arabia the hour of judgment will not come until the muslims fight the jews and kill them this is in a part of the world where we in this in this house we in this country are trying to seek moderation  trying to seek tolerance this is what they're teaching this year you know i could read some other quotes and among the quotes i can read are what you mr called me mr chairman it's a terrific job with this go by and large you have served this house with great distinction every single year we say well the reason we're putting money in this bill is the saudis are getting better short fifteen of the nineteen homicide bombers on my city were saudis shore seventy percent of the most wanted international terrorists are saudis shore according to the state department sixty percent of all the exports the funding exploited is coming from the saudis but still they're getting better they're getting better mr chairman this is what they're saying today and i reserve the balance of my time joe reserves about this time john from arizona german i do rise in strong opposition to this amendment in this bill and i yield myself such time as i may consume in this bill there is a total of four hundred twenty thousand dollars that for saudi arabia now let me just so we understand where these accounts are twenty thousand dollars we've heard from before last year that's what we're hearing about twenty thousand dollars in this entire bill when this amendment came up and why do we have that in there that's for providing a classroom space that's the international military education training program for i met students why do we have to provide one space because by buying giving them a grant for one space they are then eligible to buy seats in the classes that they pay for at the somewhat reduced rate so that's just simply a kind of a do that are required in order to to have them eligible for this program we've talked about i met before and again it's similar to what we were just talking about a moment ago with regard to the winds that program in latin america if we want to have american values of democracy and civil rights and justice transmitted to these countries to these people then we need to have that kind of program now the other four hundred thousand dollars is new this year not a whole heck of a lot of money but it's for nonproliferation anti terrorism and the mining programs this pays for american experts bomb detection experts criminal investigation experts to go and help train and i terrorism police in saudi arabia for heaven's sake is not something we want to do we do we not want to train the saudis to help the saudis become better at detecting and i terrorism or at detecting terrorist attacks do we not want to help them try to deter those kinds of attacks against os of against their own society this is about the war on terror and this is about saying this amendment is about saying no we don't want saudi arabia involved in the war on terror we don't believe they should be on our side in the war on terror because we want to cut out the money that allows us to help a little bit that we have that allows us to help train those people so i understand the sentiment that's behind this it's an easy kind of sentiment to scratch the surface and and get to this kind of an emotion but it's not the right thing to do it is clearly not the right thing to do if we desire that the people saudi arabia want to have them embrace a more western toler tolerance and a value system how do we expect them to learn to do that we want them to be a better partner in the war on terror how do we expect to do that if we are not willing to help train them this is the first of all the saudis don't need our money they're one of the biggest oil producers in the world and so why are we giving them for five hundred thousand dollars or million or whatever it happens to be i understand this is symbolic but the fact of the matter is we want to send a message today to the saudis and the message is that we don't want them supporting wahhabi islam which teaches hatred and teaches people to want to hate to the degree that they would kill christians and jews and anybody that does the gri with them and they're not only giving money to teach one hobby islam in saudi arabia they're doing it in countries around the world they're doing it in canada where just i think seventeen people were captured the other day from a mosque up there that was teaching a hobby as it were going to behead the prime minister of canada now they should be very careful about where they're spending their money and they should be very careful in the way to let them know that it's not give them any of our money which they don't need anyhow they're also giving money to terrorist organizations like hamas and they're giving money to people to the families of people who blow themselves up killing innocent women and children the saudis should be responsible in using their money and teaching brotherly love and human rights and dignity of man instead of teaching a hobby islam which teaches just the opposite hatred murder killing of people who don't agree with them trying to spit a prolific way the hatred of a hobby is i'm i understand the concern of my colleagues but this is a signal that we're sending today it's not good amount to very much money but it's a signal that needs to be said to the saudis that the world not just the united states but the world just don't want organizations teaching hatred of christians and jews and anybody that doesn't agree with them and that's being taught as my colleague mr winter just pointed out very vividly on the floor in their textbooks in their teaching they're teaching hatred and that's not the thing that we should be supporting in any way and although this is a much money it's a message that we've sent and i and i agree very strongly hope everybody supports a sum as they did last year  on the sherman and myself assigned as i consume to respond very briefly to what the gentleman just said and i think what he has said demonstrates what this issue is all about are we talking about something that scratches the surface of emotions w e want to talk about something that's real the money is not symbolic it's real the twenty thousand dollars allows them to buy a seat at the i'm at table that allows them to send their students to the united states to have me trained in american values in western values in the mockers the injustice the four hundred thousand dollars is the pay for americans experts to go over and train them in bomb detection in a criminal investigations is a gentleman saying that we don't want them to be trained we don't want them to participate one of those have to do with lobby is not that this has to do with whether or not they are going to be a partner in the war on terror but yes you can reach beyond that to the motion and you can you can do the wrong thing which this amendment would do which is the cop the money that enables them to participate in a significant way in the war on terror would make sure that you would my colleagues with that i reserve the balance of my time and i'm sure he'll is all around the world are exploiting the kind of teaching that you and i don't agree with and we're giving them in this bill a two thousand percent increase from what they got last year when this house said we had enough to meet its legit mr ferguson from new jersey  or to minister the gentleman from new york for yelling this time and for his leadership on this issue i also want to thank and recognize the chairman of the subcommittee for his years of distinguished work in this house and  i am a supporter of the bill that's on the floor today but i am also deeply disappointed that it provides money for the kingdom of saudi arabia our own government continues to chronicle saudi arabia's continuing human rights abuses their lack of religious freedom or lack of rights for women in two thousand and five the department of state report on human rights practices called saudi arabia human rights records quote if you are poor overall with continuing serious problems reported human rights violations include beatings denial of fair trials political prisoners restrictions on civil liberties and discrimination against women religion and other minorities in december two thousand and five saudi arabia officially became a member of the world trade organization despite the significant objections of a number of us here in this body a key condition of their membership was that they would no longer participate in the air a boycott of israel which was one of our key allies in the middle east but there are still credible reports that this condition even today has not been met the fact that their continued reassurances of our own diplomats proved to be all talk and no action it's an affront to the united states and every other country in the world trade organization saudi arabia continues to be one of the biggest financial supporters of the hamas led palestinian government despite repeated appeals from the united states to cut funding to this terrorist organization how can the house of representatives continue to send american taxpayer dollars to a country which supports a government led by a terrorist organization last year this house overwhelmingly passed this amendment in the same appropriations bill things have not changed for the kingdom of saudi arabia since then we cannot continue to reward a country that has a poor human rights record terrorist connections and has continued to break promises made to the united states and the international community we need to continue to hold them accountable for their actions and i urge my colleagues to join me in supporting this amendment tom jones expired jones mirjana the chairman the gentleman from jersey if we were sending millions of dollars to support economic development in saudi arabia as the gentleman from indiana pointed out their rich country or as you pointed out there they're doing some bad things i would agree with them if we were sending millions of dollars for a various projects in saudi arabia i would agree with them but that we're talking about training a police officer to have the tools to detect  terrorist attacks we're talking about fighting terrorism this is so narrow and so so focused on counterterrorism and that surely is what we want the saudis do to have the skills to detect a terrorist attack in advance to head it all up to investigate terrorist attacks to be able to prosecute those people surely that is what we want to do the stuff we don't agree with the policies of saudi arabia i don't agree with them but i certainly want their police officer i want their detective in riyadh to have the kind of skills they need to go after terrorists and that's all this amendment is about this tiny amount of money that's in here is about that so we ought not to be taking this kind of step it's more than symbolic it does have to do with very specific kinds of training that combat terrorism and we ought not to be doing that i've reserved  here today even debating this because i was tempted quite frankly to simply submit once again my testimony from last year because quite frankly things have not changed in this year that has gone by i have not seen a discernible change in the attitudes of the saudis towards their education system they say their changes made between the washington post and other publications and as mr winners demonstrate before today in reality there has been well you can say you're our ally and at the same time still like sport that hatred to other countries and bangladesh and pakistan indonesia where unrest is from entering towards the united states you cannot be our ally and not show by deed i don't think the amount of money that we're striking from this will make a difference to the saudis in terms of their training of anti terrorism it's in their interest to fight the war on terror it's in their interest to take to combat terrorism in their own country but it's all so in their interest i believe that there was a relationship and a strong relationship with this country is to all up to what has been responsible for much of the terrorism that has been exported around this world it's coming from saudi arabia much of the money that's being exported around the world to madrassas that are teaching fundamentalism is coming from saudi arabia you can't have your cake and eat it too and that's the message we're sending it today that's why once again strengthen the standing time to the gentle lady from new york and i rise and supported the amendment night here back down to my time back gentleman from new york has two and one half minutes remaining well i'll use no for this because all use this time not going to provide aid to saudi arabia the fact that we still have it back this year makes you wonder why it is but he posits the wrong question he says what's so bad about having a two thousand percent increase in the amount of funds we're going to provide saudi arabia but my colleagues we should be asking a different question when we provide foreign aid the question should be why should we why should we provide aid to a country that is systematic to export its exported terrorism when bin lad osama bin ladin left saudi arabia to the caves of afghanistan he did so with what some people think was close to a billion dollars of cash in his pocket saudi blood money went to hobby islam is spread worldwide as villian form of  islamic teaching that is that is outside the anyone's realm of understanding about why you would teach young people only to hate like i showed you in this textbook from this year says saudi government is doing that when we look at the numbers of saudi citizens that are being exported around the world in committing acts of terror when we look at the fact that the saudis said again and again we're going to shut down these bank accounts that fund terrorism and again and again it proves that they haven't done it the question should be why are we providing any aid to them never mind a two thousand percent increase from last year why provide any and this legislation is very simple it says listen let's have a good foreign aid bill but not a two thousand percent increase to the saudis when they've lied to us they said we're going to close down account ninety eight to fund terrorism as of today it's open they said they were going to change their teaching to make them more tolerant as of today they haven't they said they were going to stop exporting a hobby isn't as of today the world association of muslim youth is still being funded by them and still exporting the worst type of terrorism my colleagues i urge you to support the winner burton crowley ferguson berkeley amendment let's make this a good foreign aid bill that doesn't include aid to people that have lied to us exported terrorism let's not provide a two thousand percent increase in aid to the saudis i already yes vote but john from arizona has four and one half minutes from his german i will just close very quickly by saying two thousand percent increase is just a bogus argument there's twenty thousand dollars last year there's four hundred twenty thousand dollars this year because we have four hundred thousand for terrorist training for specifically to pay for the salaries of american experts who go over there train their police so it's not the percentage  that we're talking about here it should we be doing this kind of work at all and the answer i think if you believe that we should be fighting the war on terror and that we should be fighting that wherever we can find out where we can find police forces that need to be trained we ought to and then the number five printed in the congressional record offered by mr king of iowa pursuant to the order of the house of june two thousand and six the gentleman from our mr king and a member opposed each will control five minutes for what purpose you're welcome arizona ross i rise  that removes funds that go to the economic support fund in mexico if they do not comply with an article ninety eight order which says that they would not not send an american citizen to the international criminal  court mexico's played to cash in big on foreign aid contained in h r fifty five twenty two the house report would allocate forty million in assistance to mexico while the president's fiscal year two thousand and seven budget request estimates they will receive sixty two point nine million in various forms of aid through this bill my mental would prohibit spending economic support funds to mexico and that's about nine million and despite spending over thirty one million in economic support funds since two thousand and four the mexican government has not shown any progress towards real reform mexico is rife with corruption our politicians can steal reiber commit fraud and avoid jail time since crimes are not always treated seriously especially these crimes of fraud regardless of the amount of money stolen a case in point would be ninety million dollars it was diverted and that's us dollars diverted from pemex which is mexico's national oil company to illegally finance that the two thousand presidential campaign from the by the p r i and yet even though they have been fined they can pay their payments in installments or but no jail time this is indicative of what we're faced with down there and with all the money that has gone in under this fund i can't measure that there's been any kind of significant results now they are prohibited from from advancing these funds even though they be appropriated unless mexico agrees on iran under article ninety eight agreement that even though they've joined now the international criminal court that they would not send a united states citizen to that court mexico refuses to do so and in fact this statement from their from their people would state that be it would be in february ruben aguilar was a spokesman for president fox said with of that the united states is within its rights in suspending military aid but this would not persuade mexico to change its stance on as he said full that he is into the i c c at whatever cost mr chairman this is one of those costs and if they are determined to send american citizens maybe american military maybe maybe maybe f b i maybe american soldiers and or american marines to the international criminal court as our southern border they've missed the these issues we're going to miss you you have shared with distinction the as you noted earlier the parliamentary with mexico you have been a spokesman for rationality in dealing with mexican issues we're going to miss that voice as you can see can see the irrationality seems to be taking hold so i am sorry you're going to go and we're going to miss your leadership on this so thank you again mr and mr speaker these amendments which aim at taking money from mexico are going to do the exact opposite as what the makers of the motion have in mind we have the we we have a long border with mexico it's a friendly nation we have a real problem with immigration how do we solve that problem by punishing them i don't know if that helps any these monies that are the subject of this amendment the economic support for on or to promote economic and political stability to strengthen judicial systems increase transparency in government help create jobs how is reform going to take place unless we are engaging with them unless we're seen as an ally in as we say we're friendly with them and i will tell mr king my friend who i often mix up with mr tancredo in more ways than one that the immigration issue will be compound that by these efforts to to stop assistance to mexico we know that people come here for jobs if there were jobs in mexico they would not come here they don't wan leave their country they're just trying to find a way for their families to have a future we need to do everything we can to help mexico create jobs and that is the quickest most cost effective cheapest way to deal with the illegal immigration problem this is not going to help create jobs this will hurt and hurt your efforts to stop illegal immigration let's vote down this amendment mr king some are i would yield a minute to the gentleman from texas the government still has not been front of the united states in the republican majority in this house is representing the people of america who are flat fed up with mexican government's refusal to control the flow of criminals and illegal aliens united states let's talk about facts mr filner is ignoring the fact  that the dead democrats are ignoring the fact that the mexican government is permitting armed training camps for narco terrorists in northern mexico this is a photograph of a guatemalan militia member training and  they there there's a camp run by the cabela's by the zetas and just outside of matter morris mexico across the river from texas the weapons these individuals are using and we'll talk more about this in the leadership hour at the end of the day here's just a sample of some of the weapons he's narco terrorists are using on the border forty millimeter grenade launchers there's open warfare and the no evil radio area these are some photographs of some of the results of some of the gun fights that are taking place there there are even armed mexican militia spotters on hilltops in arizona on u s soil who are protecting the smuggling routes mexico has not been acting like a friend they've encouraged illegal immigration of this country they've encouraged and turned a blind eye to the corruption and the criminals pouring across our border and it's time the house cut off money to mexico to send a message we are sick and tired of them not protecting our border and discouraging illegal immigration i thank the gentleman reclaim provided here by the gentleman from texas is a chilling thing to see and if this chamber had the ability to look at these pictures and understand that to poverty and know what's going on on the north side of our border and that's with the full knowledge of the government of mexico and runner stand also that the corruption is replete on the other side of the border and in an even more significant way these people have an unlimited amount of funds there are sixty billion dollars worth of illegal drugs that come into the united states across our southern border every year eleven million illegal people every day coming across that border and this fund this is a nine million dollar fund that's supposed to be pretty ching freedom and democracy and proper forms of government in mexico we don't have an ounce of evidence that demonstrates that they've moved anything in that direction in fact i suspect that it's gone the other way the american people know this people who live on the border know this members of congress who represent these pictures that you've seen here ought to know this and they ought to support my amendment  this amendment simply supports the another cut amendment which has been renewed each year since have been been before before this congress but there's no reason for us to appropriate nine million dollars when the mexican government has said that they are not going to comply or  agree with an article ninety eight agreement which again is the agreement that would state that they would not stand an american to the international criminal court in fact the representative of it president the president been sent a fax has said the exact opposite that they're going to comply with their wrong headed amendment wrong thing for us to do this is not symbolic this cuts all the stuff funds that we provide to the country of mexico which is relative to most of our programs around the world very very small because mexico is a country of that is beyond the least developed it's now rapidly developing but the money that we provide here is important money it's money that helps promote democracy it's money that helps promote such things as property rights it's money helps for all such things as micro finance it's the kinds of things that we do that help provide economic livelihood for the people in mexico this job about job creation it's about allowing people to live and work in mexico and not have to come to the united states if you want less migration from mexico to the united states you've got to we've got to give them a hand a hand  prevent them from having to come to the united states because they have no way of taking care of their families so this would be the wrong thing for us to do in terms of cutting the economic support funds for mexico it's also the wrong thing to do to a neighbor with whom we have a very good relationship do we have problems of course we have problems other times when we disagree of course we disagree would you like to have more help on some of the migration problems in the drug interdiction problems yes we want more help but i remember i've been here in this congress for twenty two years and i remember going to the in american the us mexico parliamentary meetings twenty two years ago when we had no where we were told by our state department and law enforcement officials there was no cooperation with mexico today that's very much changed there is cooperation we have significant cooperation this is the wrong thing to do to a country like mexico that is doing its best to try and and cooperate with the united states both on migration and on drug interdiction these are small programs but they're programs that make a difference in terms of economic livelihood in the order of the house of june eighth two thousand and six and gentleman from ohio mr percentage and a member opposed each will control five minutes chair recognizes the gentleman from ohio i think the gentleman my management will prohibit the millennium challenge corporation funds from being used to construct a highway in el salvador to help a gold mining to help gold mining companies the construction of this highway which constitutes a majority of el salvador's mc funding will mostly benefit to gold mining companies meanwhile productive development priorities which are desperately needed by all salvatore's poor will be short changed in fall of two thousand and five the two largest canadian mining companies received permits from the government of el salvador to conduct initial surveying of the northern region where gold had been discovered these companies made it known to the government they intended to min for gold later el salvador's president announce that he intended to use m c c funding for construction of a large highway that guess what would go right through that same gold mine region only weeks ago the salvadoran government committed a majority of its m c c funding for construction of this guy oldman highway you can clearly see the connection between the highway and the future mines in this map all the red and yellow blocks are sites of potential mines and the green lines or the highways to be built as you can see every potenza show mine will be length up to a road with construction of this highway this highway will link up to other roads in neighboring countries so the wealth of this poor region can be extracted and easily shipped out the mining companies are accustomed to building their own roads to facilitate mining operations but they're not going to have to build any road to know salvador this is a huge financial incentive for these mining companies in a subsidy to their operation here we are americans going broke and we're building highways in el salvador for canadian gold mine corporations you know we give these gold mine companies about two hundred million dollars for a road where the price of gold could go up to eight hundred dollars an ounce they could just use two truckloads of gold and use that to pay for the highway reserve the balance of my time gentleman from arizona sic control tom in opposition the chairman i do take the time to recognize this for five minutes jim and i do rise in opposition to this amendment and i appreciate that what the gentleman from ohio is is trying to do to look out for the interests of the people of el salvador but i think he's got some misinformation not there is one thing we is right and we can certainly agree on and that is that the millennium challenge corporation proposed compact for all salva does have a major roads component but it's we're not talking about a super highway is blowing through the fields of some poor farmers and in el salvador it's not about a road that's going to allow building profits for the multinational mining firms that somehow earning it on the backs of the peasants and the proposals certainly wasn't developed by the central government of the expense of the fate of the opinions of those at the local level this proposal was developed over seven years as part of a consultative process a process which is developing as part of a regional development plan with the other countries in the region which have identified the lack of transportation infrastructure as a significant impediment for development if anyone wants proof and reads spanish you can go to the web site for the government of el salvador where reports about the consultations are been put online where they're actually online about all the kinds of town meetings and the other consults consultations of taking taking part this is and why is that because for one thing that's one of the core acquirements of the millennium challenge corporation that this kind of transparency absolutely must be included in the in the development of the m c c proposals for the partner countries was recently in nicaragua and honduras and there too we have roads is a major component of what we're trying to do with the millennium challenge corporation and why is that important because that's how in a was heavily reliant on agriculture that's how you get products to market you can't get the products from the farms up in the hills and in the valleys if you don't have roads secondary roads and main roads to bring those things to markets and that's why it's an important part of this this is not about taking things away from peasants and this is certainly not about multinational mining companies it's not about building a superhighway this is not a four lane or six lane it's a two lane road to land paved road it'll be good for caring for trucks to carry things on for products to go to market and importantly those one hundred fifty miles of tertiary farm to road markets and spread out from the stuff from the central highway that are the bring the products in from the little villages on the farms to this  and then bring it to the markets where can either be sold in the cities without salvador or it can be shipped into international commerce not just to the united states but regionally we're going to travel on the highways in the region and help to develop the economy of this region this is the kind of thing that we ought to be trying to encourage i reserve the balance of my time from ohio today asked how much times general has three minutes remaining gentleman from arizona has two minutes from me i thank the gentleman with all due respect my good friend this road is about helping a poor gold mining company more than it's about helping the people we know what the stated purpose is to connect small farmers to a larger market gold mining a process that releases cyanide into the environment is going to result in serious economic environmental damage and it's going to displace the farming communities that depend on clean water and land so you help the gold mining operations move forward and you effectively eradicate farming in an area which is exactly the opposite of what we're being told and if the purpose of the highways to help the poor in the northern region then why are those same poor and those who work with the poor opposed to the construction of the highway i have here a photo from a newspaper in the area that shows a huge protest against construction of the catholic relief organization works with the poor and oppressed they're marching in protest to this road that is supposed to be being built for them there's so many other groups who are opposed to this you know i have a i have a list that i'll submit for the record  furthermore it's it's not not only is the northern region of el salvage your home to half of el salvador's poorest areas but it also contains the main source of water and bio diversity in this l m for river basin so you've got the degrading environmental impact of gold mining and it's going to have a negative consequence for the whole area and el salvador is going to end up having to borrow other money to complete the highway there and of getting loans from the world bank and in american development bank finance the rest of the projects get into worse debt create that had that debt paid off by the poor this is a nightmare i reserve the balance of my time i'm prepared to close when the gentleman finishes gentleman has one minute remaining for the benefit of two gold mining companies while gold is about eight hundred dollars an ounce and these companies could build their own road with a couple truckloads of gold why in the world will we have bridges falling apart in america when we have chuck holes all over our highways when we can't even repair our own infrastructure are we ready to fork over a couple hundred million dollars principally to help goldmine companies from canada this is insane so friends republicans and budget hawks lend me your ears reject this plan to fund a road for gold miners and support the cause sen amendment i'm jealous expired gentleman from arizona mr chairman all calls very quickly let me just say the gentleman may be right that there are some groups that oppose this but every single mayor every single elect there in those villages and those towns shown on the map that he just had there available el salvador has voted in favor of this during the consultative process every single elected mayor has come out in favor of this the economic analysis of this has shown that it has about a twenty percent return on the rate of investment this is the kind of thing is going to help farmers and businessmen and others who've been too long isolated in this region in addition to markets the projects because that's people with better education better health care and better futures for themselves and for their children so i struggle to see how this amendment is against the people of el salvador it's not for mining companies it's for the farmers it's for the for people's about not only their livelihood but it's about their education it's about their health care and i hope that this amendment would be defeated on i yield back the balance of my time to me is that questions on the minute offered by the gentleman from ohio those in favor say aye those opposed say no in the chair the nos have it  by general request a recorded vote for so to clause six relate teams further proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from ohio will be postponed what services delays in colorado ross i have an amendment to the court will designate the lady from colorado ms musgrave in a member opposed each will control five minutes chair recognizes the gentle lady from colorado mr speaker this amendment is designed to highlight the seriousness of the japanese be bargo in my amendment which states that none of the funds available in this act could be used to provide assistance to any country identified by the department of agriculture as the country that prohibits the importation of united states beef from  less than thirty months of age we have a wonderful product that comes from this nation when we look at the fire walls that we have for  encephalopathy our beef is truly the safest in the world and this ongoing trade ban against the united states has caused billions of dollars in loss of trade for our american ranchers packers and shippers in colorado alone at least one thousand jobs can be job losses can be directly related to this beef embark go some countries such as japan are using the guise of health and safety protocols for an excuse for protectionist policies i believe that this needs to stop immediately since the u s d a testing procedures were put into place in two thousand and four only two cows have been tested positive for bovine spongiform encephalopathy and neither of those cattle made it into the food chain the united states has the highest quality safest beef in the world i believe that our our science is very sound and we've met all of the requirements of the japanese government i hope that this highlights the concern that we have with the beef in bargo with japan and i don't believe that our tax fore floor and as former cattlemen myself i'm very proud and pleased to be able to support it i've been working here in this house with her and members of the house beef caucus to reopen some of our markets to american beef throughout the world what frustrates me most about the remaining bans on u s beef is that they are blatantly political these bans are not based on scientific evidence evidence which overwhelmingly shows that u s b among the safest in the world we have worked hard to demonstrate the safety of u s beef and we waited patiently for our trading partners to resume imports now it's time for us to do more i support this amendment because it sends a strong clear signal to our trading partners that we're tired of waiting and waiting needlessly now it's time to end the ban on u s beef and i yield back and thank the gentleman from colorado excuse me almost seven hundred twenty six thousand cattle and has found again only two confirmed cases evidence to show that our safeguards are working testing two hundred sixty eight thousand five hundred animals can detect b s e at a rate of one in ten million adult cattle at a ninety nine percent confidence level i would ask the respective chairman if he would work with me in the members of the agriculture committee to resolve this problem generally would yield i certainly would have done to try to work to to resolve this problem within the degree to which the foreign operations appropriation can can do that with all foreign countries but certainly coming from a ranching background and being a rancher myself i certainly would agree that this is a problem that that is important and i also wonder if i might on the you're yielding to me i understand that you're prepared to purposes the gentleman from all over us the clerk will designate the amendment when offered by mr brown of ohio were sent to the order the house of june eighth two thousand and six the gentleman from ohio is a member opposed each will not for five minutes on his amendment and i will be significantly less than five minutes on thank you and thank chairman colby and ranking member lowey they deserve tremendous credit for recognizing long ago for many years the domestic and global benefits of control they have been leaders in this body i thank them for that there are three compelling reasons to do this amendment additional dollars will save lives additional dollars will serve the purpose of fighting not just tb but contribute contributing to a public health infrastructure and preparedness for a potential bird flu pandemic and additional tb control dollars now will result in a net reduction of outlays later because of better preparations past march the c d c report a thirteen percent increase in multi drug resistant tb in our country the largest single increase since the early ninety's when ms levy's state of new york there was a serious outbreak when world wide travels and every day affair we can't of nor afford to ignore this airborne infectious killer that can be spread by a cough or a sneeze research published in last september's new england journal of medicine show that u s investment in tb control abroad saves u s tax dollars and protects interests protects health here at home for example thirty five million dollars invested in t v efforts abroad could save the u s over one hundred million dollars and prevent nearly twenty six hundred cases of tb here and over three hundred related tb deaths even one outbreak of m drug resistant tb to result in a very costly and very deadly resurgence i will thank i again i this interest what this does is help us with an infrastructure that will will help us stop bird flu or any other epidemic it's essential that we for ranking member for her support on this issue mr kohli mr chairman i had an amendment that would focus on not having any funds be made available in this act to be used to assist any foreign government in enforcing any religious law that has the effect of punishing a victim of sexual assault or rape this is an area and an issue that has a heavy burden and many of our muslim populations including indonesia bangladesh pakistan middle east and north africa and as well incidences that incurred in nigeria libya afghanistan saudi arabia sudan in turkey of course many of these are our strong ally however i think it is be fitting and important for this congress to make a very strong statement  example in south africa woman is raped every twenty six seconds in south africa woman is killed every six days bangle this shows vigilante and vigilant it to them against women for perceived moral transgression in pakistan woman by the name of dr should zia a thirty two year old pakistani physician is no longer in that country after being raped because of some problems with the judicial system although the government has expressed support for her and i hope that she will be able to come back to testify against the particular culprits because of the religious if you will and the colds that surround these incidences women are not protected my m m it was simply go on record with the chairman to say that we are paying attention to this issue we are concerned about it and of course we want to be able to address it i would hope that in the manages the statement manages as we move toward the senate we will be able to express our concern in particular about this unique issue and mr chairman if i might add as you well know i've just recently returned from afghanistan and had many many women surround me many of them elected officials the newly elected parliament which we're excited about has a high percentage of women these women said to me directly in general chambers we are afraid to go back to our provinces i want to make sure that the security funds in afghanistan are being sent for afghanistan have a particular leader in this field she has and i appreciate the fact that she has brought this issue to the attention of this committee and to this body there is no question that the treatment of women as it relates to reproductive rights and their their treatment  in their relationships with their husbands and with others is horrific in many countries and certainly violates all the standards that we would consider minimal in this country in there clearly there needs to be in our in our appropriations and in the money that we spend on foreign assistance programs and it needs to be an understanding of this issue there needs to be a sensitivity to it and i appreciate the fact that the generally has brought this attention i think having this dialogue here today we emphasized to usa id and to all of our mission direct around the world that this is something that we believe they should be very much focused on to be sure that the treatment of women in their respective countries balancing balancing the secular rights of those with the religious laws that exist in some of these countries balancing that that we protect the rights of women the basic human rights of women in these countries and i certainly believe that the subcommittee should work to that floor today and the supportiveness lowing if we can work towards a form of language i would greatly appreciate it as we move toward conference i thank you generally and again i thank her for her her commitment and to this issue here operations bill in the appropriations a process i would offer also to say in good humor and with a sense of caring i really wish the point of order could be waived but i hope this issue again gains the attention of the chairman of the ranking member that we could in fact have report language on this i worked on this issue for a number of years i am a co chair of the congressional children's caucus i had to do with child soldiers in two thousand and two the u s senate gave unanimous consent to the u s ratification of the child soldiers protocol which was the optional protocol to the convention on the rights of the children on the involvement of children in armed conflict i believe we have a moral in part parroted in the united states to make the you've known but to speak forcefully if you will to countries that insist on using children as soldiers uganda for example abduction rates reached a record level in late two thousand and two two thousand three hundred eight thousand boys and girls of course by the lord's resistance army to become child soldiers we see this in the democratic republic of the congo we see this in berber excuse me burma burundi the d r see liberia sudan and uganda we see that burma's national army alone includes an estimated seventy thousand child soldiers  it is of course a burden on the children and there is no hope as i speak about the child soldiers the most glaring example was heard from the eloquent presentation of the present liberia that talked about almost every child in liberia was used as a child soldier during the vicious war headed by charles taylor i am hoping that we can continue to make our moral point our sordid or assert our moral point as the appropriations process moves forward and that this too would  is to mention my recent trip to check that and to indicate in addition to i'm sure the impact of the issue of child soldiers the impact of refugees from sudan even though the chat receives international military education training dollars which i wanted to limit my real focus is to have those dollars go toward humanitarian aid to take the burden off of the government of chad as it works to be a welcome refuge for our refugees coming out of sudan and to protect them providing security for them i hope that all of these issues will receive the attention of the committee and with that i'll be happy to reserve my my  if the gentle lady would yield i appreciate that given the good work that she has done in this area and and certainly our subcommittee she's asked for some consideration in the conference for a language and certainly we will be a we will want to consider them i do appreciate that that's a generally he's prepared to withdraw the amount but i would not have to insist on my point of order i thank the distinguished gentleman i am prepared withdraw it as i said in my earlier thoughts are that wouldn't it be great to have had the point of order ways because i think children are dying as we speak and the refugees in chad need our help but i want to thank you mr chairman i want to thank mr lowy for her support and i do want to acknowledge rebecca singer calling in my office who worked at diligently on these amendments and with that i will look forward to working with you for language as we move toward the senate and mr chairman i ask unanimous consent to be able to withdraw this amendment is your objection without objection the amendment offered by the gentle lady from texas is withdrawn you texas thank you appreciate the work that the committee has done on this foreign operations appropriations bill my minute resets the spending of this bill however to the two hundred six foreign ops appropriation bill considering the ballooning size of the government this would seem to be a modest gesture some say that five hundred ninety seven dollars million dollars is just a small drop in the bucket that may seem true to some people who write checks for a living but i  disagree you can tell that to the people down in sabine pass texas which was leveled during hurricane rita that five hundred ninety seven million dollars isn't a lot of money these good folks are wondering why we're spending money all over the world when forty thousand of them still have blue tarps on the roofs which seem to me that charity certainly begins at home before we raise spending too many third world countries not asking for really a massive cut in foreign programs i'm asking that congress consider aid that we spend all over the world i receive letters and phone calls every day from people asking us to take care of their money it's an important issue to these individuals especially people who have recently been hurt by wilma rita and katrina we can't keep asking americans to trust us with their money as we send it all over the world but some day after we've gone well too far the american people will tell us that they probably had enough we cannot continue to be the guns bread and butter of the whole world we must hold the line on all money we give away to other nations and take care of our people first so this amendment reduces overall spending but because it would be up to the bureaucrats decide where those actual cuts would be and that aid that is in the interest of the united states like aid to israel they'd probably ought to be increased and they would maybe remove that aid and continue wasteful aid that we spent for example the four million dollars we give to tibet so that they can keep their culture and maybe even aid to egypt and that gives them too much discretion i think it's in the best interests that withdraw this amendment is your objection without objection the memo offered by the gentleman from texas is recognizes jim from texas millions of americans have joined congress in the illegal immigration debate over the past several months important questions on guest worker programs detention space and the so called catch and release programs have been discussed numerous times however one overlooked aspect of illegal immigration is the delay or the refusal of foreign countries that we give aid to to accept the order deportation of citizens from the united states many of these ordered deported have been convicted felonies gone to prison in the us penitentiaries and illegally entered the united states initially report issued by april two thousand and six by the department of homeland security inspector general states that ice is office of detention and remov is being forced to devote a significant percentage of its funded detention beds fourteen percent to illegals whose countries are either slow or unwilling to take those people back after they've been ordered deported the report also states th thousands of these individuals end up then being released in america as our government continues to get stuck in walled the so called friends but turn out to be uncooperative foreign nations the cost incurred in physical year two thousand and three by the united states due to the delay or refusal of the top eight nations including india was eighty three million dollars to american taxpayers in june of two thousand and four america had one hundred and thirty six thousand two hundred  forty one illegals from those top eight nations with orders to be deported but those governments refused to take those individuals so what happened of that one hundred thirty six thousand two hundred forty one illegals ninety eight percent of those were released and are walking free on american streets because we cannot detain these costs are sure to increase along with the illegal immigration from offending countries what do illegal immigrants have to lose if they know their own country won't take them back after they have been deported they make their way to america they come here illegally they break our laws and they know their country will refuse to take them back to the united states should not have to foot the bill for illegal immigrants because their home nations are constructing roadblocks it's time we offer a proper incentive to these uncooperative nations our so called france this amendment would require recipients of foreign aid to accept and repatriate nationals who have been deported from this country those nations that do not accept the transfer of their nationals would not be eligible to receive american aid these nations cannot have it both ways this isn't about punishing any particular nation it's about asking these countries who work with to work with us and accept our  also to respect our sovereignty and sanctity of our borders and take back their lawfully deported citizens and iraq retain the balance of my time general services tom jones from arizona wished to make a point of order continued reserve i would make the point of order unless you would like to have to say anything further before i make my point of order i understand there's a point of order and with that i will withdraw my amendment with that objection the amendment offered by the gentleman from texas is therefore withdrawn partisan amendment has wide support across the political spectrum and has been co sponsored by ron paul of texas mr hinchey of new york was the cause finish of ohio and has been endorsed by a number of leading national organizations including the u s business and industry council the taxpayers for common sense the green says as coalition public citizen friends of the earth and the u s public interest research group this amendment is great forward at a time when this nation has an eight point two trillion dollars national debt this amendment would simply prohibit the export import bank from providing corporate welfare to logs or oil companies for the development of oil and gas projects overseas is the cham in in america today they are all proposals coming from the white house and the leadership of this institution to cut back on health care to cut back on medicare to cut back on medicaid to cut back on financial aid for college middle class students and yet if we don't have enough money to take care of the middle laughs and that there needs working families lower income families i wonder why we have billions of dollars available to provide corporate welfare for the law just oil companies in the united states of america companies that are receiving today billions and billions of dollars in profits it is beyond comprehension that anybody in this institution could come forward with a straight face and say that the taxpayers of america should providing loan guarantees and subsidies to corporations like exxon mobil which last year earned thirty six billion dollars in profits more profits that any corporation in the history of the world company like exxon mobil which had enough money to pay out three hundred and ninety eight million dollars for retirement package for their former c e o that's the taxpayers of this country that middle class that working families should be subsidizing the lot just oil companies in the world who are receiving record breaking profits who are paying their c e o s huge compensation packages is literally insane we have real needs in this country we have needs for our veterans these for education by health care if oil companies in america can't make a buck today without coming for corporate welfare to the taxpayers of this country they are never going to make a buck since the one nine hundred ninety six the export import bank has given more than seven billion dollars in loans and loan guarantees for oil and gas projects all over the world including one point three billion to exxon mobil and nearly two billion to our old friends and how the burton another company that is obviously in desperate need of taxpayer funds  chamakh to add insult to injury the cop recipient that i hope you'll hear this of this corporate welfare it's not even an american company it is not even a privately owned company i didn't know that my republican friends was so supportive of state although nationalize industries i learned something new every day but the top recipient of this corporate welfare is pat next a wholly owned oil company of mexico well isn't that great that the taxpayers of america subsidize a wholly owned oil company of mexico well how about paying attention to some small businesses in america yield a two minutes to miss the history of new york joan from new york to recognize for two minutes thank you very much mr chairman i want to thank my friend and colleague the gentleman from vermont for offering this amendment which i think is very appropriate and very much to the point these days but before i begin with that i also want to express my deep appreciation to my friend and colleague on the other side of the aisle mr colby the gentleman from vermont who is the chairman of the committee which is overseeing this bill and i want to just thank him for the good sound saw a lot of work that he has done and i want to also tell him that i have very much appreciated having the opportunity to be associated with him in his work i think he has done an extraordinary job in chairing this subcommittee on appropriations and i think he's set an excellent example for his successor whoever that may be course we hope that successor will be from this side of the aisle but we'll we'll wait and see what happens and any case whoever it is the example that m is one that's important for all of us and i thank him very much last year the other worlds five biggest oil companies recorded a staggering one hundred and eleven billion dollars in profits and for the first quarter of this year these same companies have racked up about twenty eight billion dollars in profits which puts them right on track for even exceeding the record profits that they a stablished last year the contrast between big oil's prosperity and the economic conditions of the vast majority of americans is very very obvious and deeply divided people all across this country are finding it more and more difficult to heat their homes and they are finding it true that each week a bigger chunk out of their paycheck is going to pay for the gasoline that they need just to get back and forth to work so americans are getting gouged twice they're getting gouged at the pump and they're getting gouged at their and their tax bill they're getting gouged twice once at the pump and again in the context of their tax bills so what this amendment does is begin to focus attention on this situation where we are subsidizing american oil companies who are making record profits to go off and spend the taxpayers dollar to develop energy sources in some other part of the world it just doesn't make any sense they have more cash on hand right now than they know what to do with and now we're providing them with additional subsidies so i thank the gentleman from the lot for giving us the opportunity to vote on this amendment to establish some clarity here with regard to how we use these funds the kind of corporate welfare that is exemplified here in this particular example of taxpayers dollars going to the richest companies in the world making the biggest profits in the world is just another example of how we have misallocating the taxpayers dollars in this country let me take the remaining time i gather many of my friends here strong proponents of the free enterprise system they like the idea of risk venture taking and i wonder why it is that when the export import bank is supposed to be the place of last resort when la oil companies like exxon mobil are supposed to go to the banks i wonder why the exxon mobil is not going to citibank or all the logs banks to get any assistance they might need it is beyond comprehension to me that exxon mobil and how the burton cannot get a loan from the private sector beyond belief furthermore i find  unbelievable will to be honest with you as to why the taxpayer is of this country are subsidizing a state owned industry in mexico pemex that their state owned oil company when certainly my friends over there would never think in a million years of subsidizing a state owned oil company in the united states of america so here's the bottom line my friends historically x am the export import bank has been a major provider of corporate welfare to the largest corporations of america they are all corporations who have received huge amounts of help from export import and then they say well thank you very much taxpayers of america by the way we're shutting down plants of this country and we're moving to china and now what we're looking at is one segment of the loans and loan guarantees to the oil industry thank you tax payers of america for subsidizing us and now we're going to charge you three dollars for a gallon of gas while we earn record breaking profits mr chairman this amendment should in fact be passed unanimously it is beyond belief would be beyond belief to the people of this country that there's anyone here who thinks the taxpayer money should go to the oil industry which is enjoying record breaking profits while they rip off the american people about hope we have widespread support for this amendment and i would yield back the remainder of my time telling us that jones marriage well mr chairman in fact i think this amendment would be defeated unanimously people really understood what it really was about it's not about big oil companies it's not about supporting big oil companies about exporting supporting some usually small suppliers small u s manufacturers that work in the large huge energy industry around the world so i rise and very strong opposition to this amendment we're looking at one of the largest projects in fact it is the largest infrastructure project in the world today at sokolov island the reserves there are larger than the north slope they're larger than the gulf of mexico these are huge possible reserves now if we're concerned about energy in this country if we're concerned about oil and gas in this country and having enough gasoline to our cars we ought to be concerned about developing this and if we concerned about making sure that we have environmental protections for a project like this we want to have some participation in this project and that's exactly what the funding from from zero pick and ex him bank allows us to do to have that kin of participation i only have a very familiar amount of time and we want to finish the thing so let's just let me just finish my comments here that gentleman made some comment about even though it's not the socket on project about but there again pemex in mexico that's the state on the auto industry in mexico there's nothing in here about supporting pemex it's about supporting american business contractors american manufacturers that export absolutely not the right way to go and again if we want to be we want to have some participation in this if we want to make sure that that we this project is done the right way we want to be sure that export import bank is involved with with supporting those small suppliers that he's talking about that he wasn't talking about this morning those contractors those business people because that helps us to participate in this it's really not so much about about the big company exxon mobil and the kellogg it's about companies like solar turbans incorporate about dollar products center about s and p steel products products these this is why we have the ex im bank to support these kinds of exports to other countries to support jobs here in the united states that's exactly what a lot that's what export import bank is about is jobs here in the united states so mr chairman this is amendment is not the right way to proceed and i hope that my colleagues will soundly defeat this amendment if you're concerned about energy if you're concerned about gas prices and you want to develop in a reasonable way reserves of energy overseas and if you want to support american  clerk will designate the amendment amount equals two hundred thirteen million dollars it's only one penny off of every dollar spent and i have several pages here brilliant explanation of why and i'm not going to go through all of that because i don't think i'm going to change any minds and yes i know they're small balance the budget it's symbolic but at least it shows that that we're thinking about it then when that we're serious about it then if in my budget at home  your budget at home are in any department budget if they can't find one penny out of a dollar then i think something's very very wrong so mr chairman i would move the amendment and reserve the balance of my time about me he's a very distinguished service here in this body and he's a person that is known for his integrity and his commitment to principles and one of those commitments is the holding down spending and it's something that all of us could heed from time to time however  having said that i would oppose this amendment for the obvious reasons that i think we have a carefully crafted bill and a two hundred thirteen million dollars across the board cut from every account would have some devastating impacts in certain areas and for that reason as much as i to to remind the members that this is perhaps one of the most difficult bills of all of us that we take through the appropriations process not because it's the largest bill not because there aren't problem solved in the bill but because generally speaking across the country americans tend to say if we're going to spend money we have to spend money at home first and forget about spending money well where else except perhaps for national defense oft times my constituents say why are we spending so much money on foreign aid not recognizing that we're spending such a very very fractional piece of our total total dollar available in this arena and yet it is through this vehicle that our voices affectively heard around the world on behalf of freedom of opportunity and indeed on behalf of american interest there's little doubt that this bill has done so well over the years because we've had the kind of leadership in th that surely recognize recognizes the importance of this we've all talked about the fact that it is law and our chairman jim colby it works so well together but this is jim colby's last bill on the floor where he's formally presenting thoughts and his leadership relative to that role in the world he's done a fabulous job for us we're going to miss him in the house i must if i have a regret regarding these remarks at all it is to say that i only wish that jim called would be back next further proceedings were postponed in the following order then the number seven by mr mcgovern of massachusetts a member number eight by mr mcgovern of massachusetts a member by mr weiner of new york and then at number five by mr king of iowa and then the by mr coe senate of o and then the mr sanders of vermont amendment number fifteen by mr hefley of colorado and then the number one by mr bowman our of oregon the chair reduced to two minutes the time for any electronic vote after the first vote in this series finished business as a request for recorded vote on the amendment number seven offered by the gentleman from massachusetts mr mcgovern on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the nose prevailed the voice vote the clerk will read designate the amendment and then the number seven printed in the congressional record offered