relative to the so i just wanted to be on record as refusing myself thank you dani i like to take a moment actually introduce the commissioners for more than  myself max i am the chair we have commissioner when he tani we have our new vice chair sandra silver shall welcome you we have our commissioner steve castro with commissioner larry statement before we get started the applicant is my second cousin this is something that was not aware of until about three to four years ago we did not grow up together since i met her we have jointly attended one family event together i stand nothing to gain or lose should the application be denied or proved financially or otherwise i owe her nothing and she owes me nothing i was elected to this commission because i booked my opinion based upon the merits of the issue i am unbiased in my delivery and on occasion vote against my fellow commissioners in personal my background as an officer and as an assistant chief maybe make decisions that my friends did not appreciate nor like the fact that by family making these decisions and i meet them anyway i am unbiased thank you can do to you so and i will not recuse myself i will all right we're going to open the public for open for public testimony we have many several general terms on the items on the agenda and to the sheer number of people  this reason why we're having public testimony at this moment is allow people who cannot stay when they meet general them comes up to have an opportunity come up and speak so you can do one or the other you wait to have the jenna come up and speak or you can speak now or you can do both you have three minutes also to everyone in the audience because we have a lot of people here  refrain from speaking out in order the only time you should be allowed to speak is going on the podium this whole meeting is recorded and obviously televised so you want to make sure we keep that in in mind so thank participation i have a sign up list so please let me know if you want to either testify now wait for the agenda item to come up right so we've got a situation here we go a lot of people obviously sign up to testify and if everyone has three minutes to testify and we've got probably five pages of six pages thank you we're going to be testifying probably all morning so as suggested by our core counsel on our director we're considering moving the the one item which is the first item on the agenda to one o'clock at a different locations actually at the well most sent those community center with a y local community center at one o'clock so everyone can have a chance to  have placed in this and also what we want to do to is perhaps just so that the other items on the agenda can have a chance to not have to sift through the whole testimony we like to ma some administrators think that we're just seeing the gender or is there something that we vote on director or council as a required for this is more of a logistical permit that seeks to bring commercial activity in a commercial environment into our residential neighborhood when i considered the benefits that are supposed to outweigh the immense harm to our neighborhood and its residents from this commercial activity i read how would provide employment opportunities for foreign skaters and such but those jobs would not be added to maui the proposed activity is not a new housing development or a newt industry that would bring new jobs to maui and create new jobs who would only be moving jobs from existing commercial event facilities to this new competing commercial event facility that's trying to get your approval even without full coverage is commercial events clients will still hold their meetings and their events on maui perhaps it can to make a man perhaps at the mac or a hotel and all those workers would still have the same jobs the only one who benefits economically from this is mona ri i read the applicants say that mona ridge is unique private location for clients who need security and confidentiality that's a few clients per year perhaps that's not forty eight events the applicant is looking for help for grants and hold an annual fundraiser to raise the money to support her farm not turn the farm into a commercial property and hold forty eight commercial events per year in a residential neighborhood and i would ask that you get extra consideration to the department of agriculture's comment that it has quote significant reservations that the proposed special events will become the primary rather than the accessory or secondary use of the land instead of agricultural production south of the road the main residential road leading to lunar bridge it's a beautiful street i live on it and has runners fitness walkers kids on bicycles people like me and my wife who was their dogs in a park that's regularly used by children the proposed commercial activities would turn south road into a commercial road and a dangerous one at that imagine the trucks of catering and set up staff who are running late flying down the road distracted bus drivers barreling down and the most frightening of all cars with drunk drivers coming from a wedding party or another event where alcohol has been served the lives of the children the pets have to two something like various up then down highly risky and dangerous passage in your own residential community remember we are there on a very steep morning commissioner thank you for your time my name is patrick cornell as i mean native hawaiian also chinese and portuguese background and centuries of family members from history resident of seniors visiting friends and family and war as well as everyone in this room to come to her home it's an open house i come from the hospitality industry now in the local farming community and industry including agriculture the classroom where i teach students about agriculture the owner and her family has allowed me to get the opportunity to invite farmers and students public and private schools to draw a rich to hear and see her story to encourage allowing these permits mentioned the owner will provide many benefits for the community young and old for the disadvantaged you we will get a return of investment you we can be proud of what the owner and her family is trying to do for the community today and tomorrow permit application this past summer my brother and i senior night proper bouncing it alone overage not only did we acknowledge the cause of twenty sixteen but we also learned a lot about the history of molly things that can't simply be taught in class believe about giving back to the overwhelming success of this event leads me to believe such functions would also be just as successful hosting events at such a venue is a great way to reward a rigorous student and work ethic hi my name is diane d l i'm a nineteen year resident homeowner in my home located at six forty three i received a notice in the mail from the maui planning commission because my home is within five hundred feet of nonevents i just wanna let you know that i am a retired school the ridge first with the highest price of twenty five words the next place was at one sixty five the american society of travel agents or national association of career travel agents had toured maui and one of their stocks was on a ridge they also went to  states that soil quality with respect to as anomic suitability is for the trees will not mature for eighteen years and she needs to have these activities to cover expenses i agree with the department of agriculture that is the permits or the agricultural land will take a back seat all of the activities she is asking for will turn into her primary source of income please take an opportunity to twenty six or twenty this is wilson numerous activities that she is asking for including for tea parties alcohol will be served will increase traffic and noise for her neighbors and while this is high on the street it's a narrow street is here there's a car parked on one side and i suppose there's one or two sides it's very hard to get to and if you've whose company then one day about forty years ago developer decided he could build homes in the area above the plantation up to where it became feasible due to the steepness of the great there was more in the neighborhood of heights with the spectacular views cool climate central location it was very desirous the purchasers a lot of the lads were told that the upper slopes surrounding the neighborhood were conservation and would never be developed people or their blood sweat and tears into the effort to be able to afford to live in this neighborhood and one day about fourteen years ago to the surprise of everyone who lives there it was revealed that the surrounding land had been so the thousand dollars and was agriculture sale was closed the homeowners were not given a chance to bid on the property i looked also so the white compute valley same time to the same speculator for two hundred ten thousand dollars at the time sold that for eight hundred ten thousand dollars to the wilsons when the wilsons purchased the property the board of the homeowners association without the approval of the individual membership was kind enough to allow luke wilson so use a lot for a driveway to the property above so they could build a single family home little did they know what was the problem for two years neighbors endured thousands of truckloads of dirt being removed but the noise the rumbling the dust and the wear and tear on the streets wilsons even part of the way some of the k c property to secure their an obstructed view after that things would have been fine the wilsons had their eight thousand square foot mansion on the hill and the neighbors had their peace and quiet restored however that was not the big sis in mrs wilson has pursued a course of escalating commercialization of the property subjecting the neighbors to more and more traffic and even without permits her web site advertises tourist special events and short term rentals for hefty zen temple and i have known mrs wilson for over five years and found her to be very caring and committed person for the people of mali i would have been happy to testify however prior commitments prevented me from being there today when i found out that she was applying for a specially using conditional permit allowing her to conduct educational tours two major industries in hawaii also with the high cost of living and photography for local families i got excited about assisting her in her petition there aren't too many local families who would open their beautiful home for the public to see and enjoy being born and raised on molly she has a lot of a lot especially for the children seniors work veterans and community at the rules the second rule of law and i was living a very vividly as saying go from being a success to being significant and i made this also my model after i retired from the business i'm teaching now in china in germany and in thailand and i start teaching tomorrow in mali college and i'm looking very much forward to that thank you well is just just my my opinion and a lot of other people's opinions i understand thank you very much for your  you phyllis moen and then followed by ernie cronkite the chairman members of the planning committee thank you for allowing me the opportunity to voice opposition to long overdue special permit requests my name is dr phil unfortunately i have seen and cared for too many family particularly children impacted by the devastation an accident related to drinking under the influence which is why i strongly urge you to deny the special permit used by  open a commercial business and why the height of the safety of our residents should be the number one priority mono ridge wants to hold the event every weekend statistics clearly show that the increasing risk of drinking and accidents and the allies are more likely to occur over the weekend the results of accidents can never be taken back families are shattered for life it is specially heartbreaking to see children with traumatic brain injuries or paralyzed whose life potential have been severely compromised through to a drunk driver the centers for disease control and prevention june twenty eighth two thousand and sixteen report finds that hawaii many of the residents have already said the streets are very very steep and there are many curves so it does take exceptional concentration to be able to safely maneuver through the development not all streets have sidewalks you will see many families walking day and night through those streets it's a very quiet and very peaceful neighborhood a commercial business would destroy the safety and ambiance of  could not guarantee that there will be no drinking or over consumption of alcohol at these proposed events national precedence has been set and why he does have states and court cases that are a person drink and drive and has an accident then that commercial business and social hostesses would be just as responsible for that accident as a drunk driver if the maui planning commission decides application despite the majority of while a coup has residents opposition to it then the commission along with the lone ridge must be ethically and morally responsible for the eventual accidents that will occur not that they m ter but they will occur for their safety of our family it's critical that a commercial event business type on a ridge not be part of our community nor for any other housing development thank you ok lisa davis sue you want to make a note here we've got about eighty people signed up and we just call it and it's taken us almost an hour to go through tall people and we have three other agenda items right now and i'm going up to take a quick five minute recess for our court recorder to take a break for from our typing so we  just give a chance for the other items to be addressed first so thank you all meeting  santos community center worldwide community center we're going to recess at eleven thirty currently we're still required to take to the public testimony so we're going to go through  public testimony for all the genda items so anyone wish to testify cannot be at a community center later at one o'clock you may come now that makes sense so if you want to know item d one so you can testify and item do you want now but if you do that you will be able to testify again at one o'clock on the item so you can testify now or you could wait until one o'clock to testify on items the one hundred stand at the chair you're going to be taking the other items other than the one once testimony is done this morning you're going to take those up this morning correct ok thank you thank you  my relationship with the our now was since two thousand and ten when i met her at the university of forty my college fashion technology program i was a teacher and a lecturer there and she is a huge supporter of education here in hawaii and especially in the fashion program that i was a part of and she was more than just a mentor to me we grew very very close with one another to where i thought that she was more motherly towards me we definitely clicked back in two thousand and ten and we have maintained an amazing relationship and she has done so much while i was teaching as a professor at the college with my students and supporting them and their creativity and then the hard so i recently just l my teaching job at the university of fourteen now in college and when asked to achieve my own dreams at the maui designer and she has helped me throughout that entire process i was able to collaborate with her and or young minds sees the achievements that we've done and shares its goals and influence my business and has allowed my creative process to person sitting you help me achieve these c l she has done so much with the program to at university college and i just think that she is such a strong woman and she has so much and to be able to work at such a beautiful venue such as on a red and twenty six years old when i met her i was twenty one and going from we're know was kind enough to share her home with us to use it as an avenue for a few of our creative projects i haven't that you know laura ridge is a unique place with unique backgrounds and it's of struggle for i think that you know it's such a such a beautiful place to photograph it would be a very nice venue for anybody to see and to have the celebration at i believe that we honor a jewel providing a positive impact on the community in many ways she has created a gathering place for young people like myself to find inspiration as well as a place for others to celebrate so i think that she should be granted a special use permit at large thank you thank you molly has not started a beautiful ten years but on average for the special place for me aside from the great view there are a lot of great things happening on this property and that's evident when you come up the driveway and see the recycled set of plans or walk through the lawn and see the vulnerable species of opportunity to do a few photo shoots on her property which enables us to showcase our work and in turn build our business the un is a great supporter of local talent and i feel very honored to be here and offer my support actress today thanks for your time and consideration somebody please notify  alert chairperson and commissioners my name is lola johnson and i am speaking in behalf of the loner ridge permit i was one of those those councillors  that took the upper bound students to learn a ridge and it was a great opportunity for them i got to witness what they felt as they shared and also what they saw and what they heard and that is what we don't understand unless you are there at the property witnessing and seeing what she does and the magic that she has with these children or these students it is just incredible her natural being as a person coming from the plantation and explaining to the children hope and understanding that they have a chance that they can make a life for themselves those things can only be heard and seen on this ridge and it was such a great opportunity to see our students to be able to see hope for themselves and the students that we work with and i've found is first generation going to college so that means not their parents have not gone to college and so on going there they heard her story and how she came from the plantation and that her parents were not able to to go to college but seen what she's done and coming from a rooted place meaning that she she's speaking from her gut or her now which means it's the real stuff she is rooted on this land meaning wherever she placed herself it doesn't matter here in ireland if you question where she goes is that she's she's not a to she belongs here and she has every right to do what she does and that is to reach out to the people and she has no prejudice it's to everyone to all ethnicity to all populations she she has no prejudice and that's what i admire about her and i i only knew her through my son which she just heard which is called johnson she gave him that opportunity i am a parent who is now trying to go to college but here she helped my son to make something of himself as well as his colleagues and to be able to have that chance and this is what i'm talking about i'm not talking about coming from a family that has a lot of money i'm talking about a family that is struggling and that wants the best for our families just like in the plantation just is how it is and she knows that and she understands that and that's what is so unique about her she gives people a chance and now my son has established himself he's he's known throughout all was all in one a little as well as here and now and that's only because she  gave him a chance to be able to take these photo shoots to be able to share and to get people to see what she does and what she does what her property has to offer and i appreciate her and i and i hope that you will have that chance is  good morning my name is laura to saki and i opposed a special permit for commercial use i live in my little heights and have lived there for seventeen years and i'm concerned about the increase in dollars and traffic and how this will affect the safety of the community especially my three young children who often was in neighborhood and play in the park if alcohol is consumed and even greater concern is drunk driving on the streets in the neighborhood my husband dr mitchell to saki is a trauma surgeon and sees firsthand the devastating results of accidents caused by drunk driving we don't want any increased chance that this will occur the special permit will jeopardize the safety of a whole community for the benefit of only one person because of this i ask that you not recommend a special permit thank you thank you roger mcarthur followed by george choice so sure that the change that we're looking at right now with the proposal by a lot of rage is a good thing i don't feel that having four meetings per month with sixty people up there per meeting is a good thing i don't think that the traffic that's associated with those people coming up to her premises is a good thing i don't think the key toure's i don't feel the musicians i don't feel that photographers are a good thing to be going up the hill and coming down the hill is a good thing i don't think the noise that emanates from her premises from entertainment is a good thing i do not think the issue of having cars coming down there with the possibility of alcohol on the drivers is a good thing so with that i would hope that the planning members give consideration to the people who live up there i've listened to a lot of testimony and a lot of these people that are favorable are rich do not live in well who hate they're there to attend her various good activities but they are not people who live in the community we are concerned about our community it's a great place and most people i believe my name is david serino my wife and i live at five thirty two leaving dr we've been there since two thousand and five i believe and i had the opportunity to review a video of one of your meetings back in february of this year and somebody expressed based on their knowledge of volumes plan the key he was for tourists and central mali was from local well i can assure you at least in my experience having been born and raised on a wall and moving here in one thousand nine hundred eight there's no weddings that are occurring with sixty people who are local i've not been to a baby luau for sixty people  local this whole industry is geared to tourism if you order griese to this type of behavior and this type of activity bring the tourists into our neighborhoods bring them layer when you crack the permit like this you have to have some trust and frankly the only wills and cannot be trusted she told us to mark faces we met at the garage before she really started the building process and she promised us she just wanted to live there peacefully with her husband she confirmed this incident in a meeting we had just a few months ago she said she changed her mind because she needed money she can't be trusted she she signed documents angel abide by the covenant and she doesn't she simply can't be trusted she tells people based on the letters that i've reviewed that these are only daytime events that's what the letters say apparently because she has told them that she simply can't be trusted she tells people this has to do with her farm tours this is not about her farm tours this is about weddings this is about photo shoots this is about movie filming this is about bringing another almost three thousand guests a year up to our neighborhood that doesn't include the gator haters or any of the other event people  trusting that somehow she will agree and force sixty people but based on her past behavior of not not allowing not going along with her words so maybe sixty in seventy maybe eight pm is a third she has to violations currently she has a second notice violation that's been filed on something parties and let me give you an example if you look at her website for the tea party sorry i'll be over just to set the tea parties say bring your own champagne we're talking about somebody w morning everyone my name is rick scott and i live it three a lonnie drive started and like to say i've heard a lot of advantages for people that live outside the neighborhood and i don't hear too many advantages for the people who live in the community we also live within five hundred feet away on a ridge and my main concern is the noise i'm very sympathetic for the people that live on the main road going up to the ridge and the traffic and the noise is i was and it is it's out of hand i've been a chef for over fifty years i worked all over the world there were twelve countries i worked for united states presidents prime minister business myself but in respect to the c c and r s and to my neighbors i never want to approach i'm worried that if permits are given for businesses what's going to stop other people from starting businesses and the community also so the issues that i'm concerned with is abiding by the c c and r s the traffic the people drinking the alcohol mostly the sound level and the noise pollution but gary one oppose the special use permit benefits no one hates fees one two or even the original subdivision as mentioned by the other speakers there's the cons of noise i can imagine possibly drones being used for filming special events possibly helicopters is proper azzi like a special winning and also increased traffic on my means concerns is the worst case scenario if there were a fire up there are there adequate fire hydrants could a fire truck there are there more than one exit is there only one road up there what would people do would you law allow any business commercial establishment to have only one entrance in or out that doesn't make sense it's very dangerous i could see even like commissioner danis house burning down in a fire that got out of control because fire trucks could not get up there a strong wind blowing embers raining on everybody's house could literally destroy the neighborhood there's no there's no fire safety things that could thank you commissioners i live in lucas heights i've been a resident there for about six years and i love the area heard a lot of emotional testimony and i think what the commissioners need to do is probably take a step back and really the attendees here to i don't think any of us are disagreeing with the on his motives to help the young to help people in need i applaud i mean hospitality i see that happen all of the time what we're opposed to or what i'm opposed to is the actual use of the property it is as everybody has said going to create fire life safety hazards i mean if you think about it if you lose one life what is that cost worth and all the other benefits that have been listed before some opposed to this the other thing that i would encourage the commissioners to do is look at the actual costs in other words the infrastructure costs if you think about all the cars and all the traffic and all the increased demands on the instructor of unwisely heights the streets right now if you've noticed in the area are starting to crumble and you imagine what more traffic will do to that that means it's more taxpayer dollars that you're going to have to prove because of the special permit some opposed to that i hope you take heed and thank you for your time appreciate the value of the homes up there and what all the opposition is representing i understand was coming from i just want to add a little bit to the letter that already submitted her and saying that  seems to me that what you're looking at on paper you're looking at the issue of commercialization of that area i think that you need to consider what has been established up there already from what i ha on of the culture so it's kind of like wayne and the benefit of the culture against the detriment of commercials and it seems to me that when you talk a merchant it's only commercial because it's places single day up and down and up and down and up and down what would be happening up there it's all negra culture they can do that kind of this is which to me is more so than what's being asked for the commercial special use permit which is limited in scope so my suggestion and my support is for allowing the special use permit under certain conditions and i know it's a  just going to ad lib and i will keep it under three minutes i'm really glad that i had a chance to hear not only the people against which i am very strongly against this but also the people for because some of the people talked about  the personal ashley buttes of this on or i don't know her i never met her but they had a lot of good kind things to say about her background and what she's done and her education and my background is hostility and she banquets can catering events large small conferences commercial i know it backwards and forwards i've been very blessed to be in the education  daily play for the last over ten years so i really applaud what she's doing in terms of students and someone came up to me and said you know what i live here i would gladly contribute to h education events we just don't want the commercial i know that commercial event aspect i was actually we were very lucky to be at a wedding and although and a month ago our god child got married and i got to see three weddings back to back the noise and i know this that's a neighborhood those people are greatly affected we're talking about the commercial aspects she may be a very fine person i don't know if i'll ever get to meet her and it's quite honestly based on what i've seen what she's doing to her neighbors i i don't know any family member or friend anybody i know who would do spot something like this in the face of so much resentment from neighbors i don't know if anyone in this room would do something a commercial venue that would affect people's lives and their homes and she may be a very good person but she's not a good neighbor so i do wish that you put that in consideration as you're making a very important decision to do that a lot someone wants to change the character neighborhood holding parties weddings and corporate events where alcoholic beverages and the illegal drugs will be dispensed consequently we will have to be more  do is going to please all this watery sure that you want to wilson is not violating the premolars of the audience there will be over a hundred people we are told to these commercials and these  from outside of the community and they do not have a vested interest in maintaining our quality of life no doubt they will represent a cross section of the public that means that our community will have an influx of criminals  years old through thirteen the other two also come up to play with their nine cousins all the time they're always on the street biking skating not only on the sidewalk but across the street because they live across the she for me and i'm concerned for the safety of the children because my children my children my son and my daughter and their spouses not responsible parents but children run off and without the parents knowing and relive on the mountainside so there's a drive we all are drive rescore down to the road my daughter has five children and her little two year old went through the gate she was walking on the street and so those things happened so i'm just here to say not only children but there are a lot of dog owners in his i think everybody owns at least one dollar yet most people two dogs everybody walks their dogs and i've heard of  neighbor down the street she was having a garage sale and she didn't think you know would cross the street and the dog did and got run over again she's not  your responsible owner but the person who is driving was not looking directly straight ahead on the street otherwise they would have snapped so i think there's incidences where there's careless drivers as well as children careless parents but with the added traffic i just you know this is going to pass i would like to at least give us a challenger of events so that we can be extra aware that there is a wedding that's going to happen and that maybe we can take our kids and make sure they're not on the streets when these events are happening so if there is more communication with homeowners on what's happening mitchell saki one and two that commercial activities we shrunk the support keeping the subdivision is residential zone with the exception in  litter of opposition by another person the issue of noise was brought up this wilson's response was that not always travels however that is a common predictability we all make decisions based on the dictabelt of this is now hawaii whether it's low income high income it doesn't matter what it is if this is allowed to move predictability of moments in the interest rates and the risk that the risk associated with loans on every house in maui whether it be white layer or here you want to build a six million dollar house that you can get three million dollars within that come down to your complaining commission and try to get them a change in to commercial so you can get your six million dollars back more possible drinkin and i know from personal experiences those things happen all over the place with a playground directly be making millions of dollars she doesn't need it's not that she wants to promote something for herself and i think it is tremendous that she takes this opportunity to share what she has with i have had many long conversations with the years and she advocates helping children who are at  and welcome them to her place she advocates know to be a very responsible individual someone who cares and does not want to infringe on the community and does whatever she can to  some people say oh it's going to be a t v r and i think of some of the neighbors i have there was one of my neighbors had a bus in his frank yard it was a party a thirty foot long bus that was bright orange and i thought i'd rather have a vacation and a party in my in my neighborhood and there's all kinds we've got you've got dog she's got crazy man might go by my father has dementia and he yells and senate he's and listens to fox news very loud so we're not the favorite people or neighborhood but we try to be good neighbors and the important thing i think about anybody of playing for a cheap yars that they have a stake in the that they're part of the community when came here when he was about twenty years old he had long hair a guitar over his shoulders and and he was barefoot and he came here with nothing his family had nothing and he built a family people pay a business he became a part of the community employees a lot of people and he has a stake in this community and he is a good neighbor and he will continue to be a good neighbor even after he's not there i think one of the worst neighbors it have in the world is somebody with a drum set you know has a drum set but we're good enough neighbors not the player neighbors going forward with this t p r but free card to michael moore and jim moore i can't say enough good things about these two individuals they employ tons of people they're very very see commissioner we are on business good morning members of my planning commission the docket before you today as the docket for a state land use commission special permit in order to have a short term rental located in the eggs own as all  very familiar since you've seen these multiple times for a short term home rental there is a two step process but it's in the exit the first is to notify all the neighbors within five hundred feet that there is a notice of an application for a short term home rental which the applicant town that being the case applicant is requesting to doings with a total of four bedrooms for a short term rental homes this is a unique property which almost forty percent of the l is in the conservation zone there's multiple district boundaries owning there's multiple counties zoning is in fact including apartment zoning on the property a cultural zoning on the property so the property in of itself has inherently a number of very odd situations that we would talk to zion about that being the case in this specific application and due to the end usual nature of this parcel not being two acres some of the egg possibilities here are problematic which will be shown in the powerpoint presentation there was decided that no specific farm plan would be required on this particular project as they couldn't even meet the applications that they stated in the law having fifty percent of the parcel in a sense almost forty percent of the parcels in conservation already so you would only have sixty percent of the lot le everything possible but meet some challenging situations here as of not of making of their own there is a power point all the applicants are here they'll be happy to answer questions thank you that conservation law compared to district whole motivation is planning for retirement and wanting to have other options we would like to move behind or have some property there identified but we hundred sixty one so we were saying well then it got converted in part apartment to in fact the property next to this is still his own hotel so we were saying well can i see where the bisection line is on this property between and in reference to one of the other commissioners questions about the might subdivision those laws don't meet the a standard two acre and those are all in the side of the all about plantation home and then i got question what's going on with these three and four lots that you have riley you've got peter martin's wife you've got moore's of course and then i found out that this is a situation that's been shared heritage for years and years so they are meeting all of robinson explain to me what's going on in the wall as a whole and i know this is one unique property here and like you kind of center close to them there's some apartments some hotels are those other laws that we're looking after all of those are those that the reason that they can do weddings is because that zone is a hotel from the county perspective but they also got a county district conservation permit to actually have the special event so it's a highly unusual set on that that they did in order to be legal for their operation for their wedding operation that being said the area right in front of the pier still has hotel zoning on part of it the area under question that we're talking about in this application has split owning with a culture and an argument down down down to the next point the area that that is is on the left side of that map  zoning happens in bits and pieces of this line in particular and that's where it just gets complicated so you tell you what's going on and well at the moment you have the  one is just held in a guy i don't know that but mr martin has plans number one or for number i guess ten that would be so i don't know there is it's  so i guess what i have a question and like you said we've got a bunch of different types of zoning how was i to do certain things with mr martin's  so their taxes will go up from that standpoint if they have sixty five regardless if they rent and they also lose a homeowner's exemption if they have i don't know if they're taking in now but they will lose that and their again please  for approvals of the land use commission special permit subject to the six conditions that are presented in the green portion of the staff report this property does seem to follow  recent discussions that have been going on at the council level about short term home rentals and where they would like to see them and what they would like to see especially when there's a debate going forward about a possible code amendment with prices of homes  say i'm just not sure about when it gets to the conservation zone how much grading clearing not sure on the details of how that would need to be reviewed and who would need to be doing that we have to look into that laws regulating the length of stay for an individual applicant i'm not sure how that relates to land use decisions now working good afternoon members of the ny planning commission and members of the audience here are for two days next to him for mr hollingsworth mr hollingsworth and his family are to the right of me and today's item is for a state land use commission special permit to operate a short term rental home in the agricultural district located at ninety five i q st in the residential subdivision of long you coco due to  are being over here unfortunately we don't have a power point set up in the applicant had prepared all that so we'll be doing a bit more ad lib then perhaps but we'll try to use all the documents in the report in order to communicate effectively to the commissioners about any questions they may have they are indicating that they wish to operate a two bedroom short term rental home permit and this again has gone through the two part short term home real permit process i explain that to you this morning the applicant sent notices of the application for a short term home rental to all of the neighbors within five hundred feet there were no triggers the triggers for a public hearing would have been a couple of them one is that you would have had thirty percent of the neighbors object there was one letter of protest so no where near did thirty percent of the neighbors object this second would have been had there been two short term metals of than five hundred feet however the commission has now in their recent legislation they now allow two short terminals within five hundred feet to be approved without a public hearing before if there was one time the second one had to have a public hearing but in this case these people are the second but according to the new rules they don't need a public hearing because they would be the second so i just like to reiterate that if this were not in a these people would have had their short term  so they didn't meet any of the triggers for a hearing for the short term home will permit part of this process so we now move then to the state land use commission special permit process because this particular prop is located in the rural rural growth boundary that usually is noted as being a more dense little bit different than an agricultural subdivision so it's just something to consider that while this is own day the intention  is for a more dense subdivision that's just by way of background the applicant does have an approved farm plan two thousand and fifteen double zero double for it includes the farming area covering the lot it was field verified by myself on june thirteenth two thousand and sixteen and just to let you know they have a variety of sweet potatoes bananas poem citrus egg laying hens and ducks  the photographs of the farm plan are located in the staff report and the applicant would be happy to explain any of them to you but the exhibit six does indicate that the farm plan has a recorded unilateral agreement and declaration for the construction farm doing that being the case just by way of history in the immediate area there was another short term home rule permit this is almost an identical application the one that the planning commission approved for was for miss helen hunt she's actually nearby neighbor of this property actually adjoining so the commission did approve a very similar almost identical sort of set up in the hunt  property the applicant mr hollingsworth is here to answer any questions and we can go through detail in some of these exhibits but i do understand that you have lots of items today so if there's pacific questions that the homeowner could answer i'll be happy to do so and i'm happy to answer any other questions you may have thank you thank you kirk at this time we're going to open the floor up for public testimony regarding this action item twenty one we should testify please come forward is there any way that this particular applicant almost all of the problem traffic is tied to this at lot of book apart almost one hundred percent of the problems due to to pedestrian bridge or something because the bit estrie is crossing makes it challenging also i do know that they're making a new road used to be the firebreak road but another working on that now i realize it's difficult for one individual to address a situation that says that it is as it is right now but when i talk to people like this take the p d s a you know we cannot let the residents up on the hill wait longer than five minutes before they get a clue so one of the things that i think that is a solution is to adjust the timing of the sea from five minutes to seven minutes or ten minutes so that sixty thousand vehicles that below highly don't have to stop three hundred times a day at that particular i agree i just don't even know where to begin to get any of those actions moving condominiums ok so my next question is in looking at the pictures here and unfortunately you know we didn't get the projector version of it it looks as though there's also an accessory growing earth that a garage or what is that second studio in there very pictures of the inside in the name of that you know like i can get oh i had it i think i know where you're going i'm i didn't go in there is it confirmed that it was not another living unit ok so i saw the music studio the drums the office and i that's part of our requirements from management don't ever assume anything is what it necessarily says go in and look so i went in and look thank you director  yeah because as we all know it was kind of infamous for things being like they're not so ok that's thank you a little bit bigger who are a family of five we built this house in two thousand and five ourselves and it's really special to us and we just wanted people forever so when you have a farm plan recommendation for the department meeting as its finding of fact conclusion of line decision in order for this item for a state land use commission special permit thank you kirk so moved  think there's nothing wrong i think that there's nothing wrong with the application i think the the applicant is is appropriate in doing that necessar support for it my only hesitancy with the situation is that the signal that learning a ballpark is going to be exacerbated by any hotel or transom type activities from the subdivision it was originally intended as an agricultural subdivision and it is i think it's inappropriate to call it an agricultural supposition at this point at some mean on the light i agree with you extremely frustrating my whole bit that you know that it's on a state road my hope is now with the metropolitan planning organization  get here you know good for you i just don't see us turning you know many hotels up in a way he says it's continuing laws of sort of been a size two sort of that have been but i don't think when they did this development so i'm agreeing with basically everything is being said here you know the application itself seems to be in order you know i as i i may not agree with all of the rules the m was i may not necessarily like the fact that this is agates been condominium allies so then become a short term rental but i can't really necessarily find a reason the same no if i just don't like the law i don't like the law question danny since we're going to pick it up with the metropolitan planning organization one other comment that i might offer on this particular situation is that  triggering that signal more so that the residents coming down the road probably who so my recommendation would be to remove the parlors market and the additional parking that it creates for the park at that location major kind of chilling so we're talking about the light because i'm one of those people that pushes the button when i'm the one blocking your traffic and as much as i do get it blocks traffic all the way up  that that parking lot you know it's a well used to beach park especially if there's going to be a bouncy castle and you know when you're old birthday party it's going to be even more jammed up so that the parking lot isn't just for the farmer's market but for all the uses of it too bedrooms the other has two at this point i would like to introduce the applicants project consultant debbie mitchell who present you with the scope and details of the proposed project the agriculture manager irked starlet is here to answer any questions that you might  house as mention in his letter to you all that was emailed to you that applicant dennis shoulders unable to make it to the hearing today he was diagnosed with stage four brain cancer and is undergoing treatment with his weight by his side his children are currently in college so know we had a great presentation for you but unfortunately will have to just kind of go over it descriptively this is a six bedroom application it is located on seven  homes there is a four bedroom main home and in two bedroom cottage and they incorporate a total of six bedrooms there i think from the handout that you had from you can see the location in just straight up from pool mama beach is where the actually the house is located although it does enter in down at the money of local light the again the parcels are large five acres or so and there is a working coconut farm going to palm farm at this plant at this location the owners purchased the place in two thousand and seven they are originally from washington state in came over to maui twenty nine years ago and fell in love with it and wanted to will find their place so they say they saved and finally bought their place in two thousand and seven and they actually moved over lived here for a couple of years got all the coconuts they have over four hundred coconut homes  currently on the property and were here for two years their kids went to maui prep they attended the chapel so very much involved in the whole life unfortunately the downturn in two thousand and nine forced them to go back to the mainland to deal with their house their business there they make decorative resin panels for construction it's a really neat process the mr schober himself developed it he invented it and developed it so they back and then they came back again in two thousand and eleven and again had to return home so their every intent is to come to maui full time but now their kids are in school they are they have three children and so they are going to stay on the mainland until those kids have finished all their schooling but is their intent to retire here and by doing this special use permit and a short term rental it will allow them to keep the house until they are able to come full time  again the house is considerably up the hill so there is adequate more than adequate parking there's at least to see sixty eight parking spaces so street parking is not an issue with this enormous traffic there are private roads so that it's not developed a relationship with a local landscape nursery company that are just beginning purchasing the coconuts from them and they intend that to continue the entire time when you know if they have gas or certainly the business of the farm will be continuing continually working farm they they have been approved farm plan in place it's been inspected and approved why is it and so that is continuing to go they are just asking that  you consider the day we did a mailing to everybody within five hundred feet announcing our intention to apply and then also did the notification of the public hearing we did not receive any protests and there are no others within five hundred feet of the  proposed rental so this is a single site it would be the first permitted within that five hundred feet so we're just asking you today for a special use permit on this egg land to allow them to make this application for the short term rental and with the assurance that it would be a continually working farm that is that of their home and there as they retire here that is what they can intend to continue to do they also plan to sell the palm trees themselves so they have kind of a diverse a plan that way and certainly this brings agriculture to brings economic opportunity to the county employment property managers landscapers different people it also brings revenues in german excise tax and transit accommodations tax is speaking to mr hood on these concerns i'm certain that they would be most willing to work do whatever work is necessary to work with anything that we've done with a light  representative would also be very happy to be a part of that as i know that's continue to i also live on the west side so i know that as well so anyway we do have again be they wrote a letter to the planning commission explaining the regret at not being here but mr schober is undergoing chemotherapy and radiation so not quite able to attend and his children are too young to come in his place so anyway they are hoping that i understand that in this heat is here of course as their representative so thank you very much for your offer my instances as soon as mr shoulder is is able to do so himself i know he would be willing to do that he's just right now it's not feasible for him given his physical condition but certainly i would absolutely with their direction be very happy to participate in that  and he's not going to be here in a sort of counting on representations of you that he'll be able to fulfill i think that's something that's hard to for somebody else to speak for somebody else i'm just i'm just putting that out there s i i actually think of a deferment you know for a period of time to hopefully see that he does get better and he's able to maybe share with us some other ideas and if we do have questions that's just i just michaeli on it but i'd never question  the pot map here and i'm noticing that on the north side of the driveway there's nothing there right what are we going to be doing with that portion of it it's the owner's intention to also develop that for agricultural product just mr shoulders illness has slowed their plans somewhat that is not to be built upon that is going to be either left undisturbed or developed as a cultural product but it's not in the i plan no it is not it's accepted certain situations that may made on happen down the road we're giving granting permits based on the current conditions and we can control what happens tomorrow they opted to mar all this stuff so i don't ohana out as a long term rental did he told that hasn't been a part of our discussions yet it has you know if we kind of wind itself it's perfectly situated and rentals are so badly if you give me a moment i can try and contact him yes they would consider that i'm not a big proponent on this as t r is enough make lots or any laws i should say for that matter but compromise to me is key in anything and i would support you know with getting a small rental and somebody on some someplace to live i think that's what we're all about and you know that's the kind of cooperation from online orders that i think oh we're looking for charlie yeah i too think that that's a wonderful suggestion and the irony is in line a two bedroom that probably rents for like six thousand dollars a month or something crazy like that so it might actually but there are conservative print dissipate if looking into synchronization of the lights i think is a step in the right direction and i think if the i think it's fair to saddle two people essentially that come before us with an application the entire cost of something like that but i think the community association pull with that entire meticulous subdivision should consider picking up the issue and jointly coming to some kind of a medication measure that they can implement whether it's you know removing the signal in putting in putting in storage lanes or refuge lanes or whatever or just synchronizing the lights so that when the commission special permit and the department is recommending approval of the permit the c i news commission special permit has seven standard conditions  disagree condition the department is recommending that the my planning commission about the planning department's report and recommendation prepared for the august twenty third two thousand and sixteen meeting as its findings of doubt conclusion of law and decision in order and to authorize a director of planning to transmit said written decision in order on behalf of the planning co or in favor of motion much we're going to go back to public because the only after a five minute really recess thank you represent representative debbie right thank you good afternoon commissioners mr spence and corporation counsel i am going to be very very brief and then mrs wilson will do her presentation what i wanted to speak to the commissioners about is simply about the agricultural use of the property and the importance of it as we all know in hawaii our state constitution and many of our laws are designed to try and help and foster agriculture and unfortunately over the years we've lost some of our large agriculture on maui the last pineapple predominately there's still a little and we've lost sugarcane now so to small farms are what we have left and this property is the county designat ag the state gives ignatius except for one little corner i think it's a quarter of an acre is an ag and if you read the application and everything i know you've gone up to the property you know that this is not one of those instances where it is a sort of pretend that you're doing some agriculture to meet some sort of requirement for your your residence this is truly your working tarm you have the you have the coa you have an a long list of other fruit trees and other types of agriculture up there and it's important to foster the agriculture so getting into per the reasons for a special use permit and conditional  is that because of changed circumstances for miss wilson after the time when this plan was in place to try and sponsor and support some endangered species and a lot of  natural agricultural products in her home why her husband died and once that happened she had to find other ways in creative ways to keep the farm going is really what it comes now and she has done agricultural tours and still does those which are part of her ag permits that's already in existence there are a lot of those things that she is allowed to do at this time they she does a lot of them for a very minimal amount of  money for the we've heard for these school children for senior for veterans and all of this kind of stuff and she would like to be able to keep doing that but there comes a point where there's only so much she can do with the minimal amount of money that is being produced because a lot of the agriculture and especially the trees which she has like three hundred of at this particular point are not going to produce for eighteen years from when their planet which i think was two thousand and eleven so she's got a long haul ahead of her until it becomes you know a crop that will produce but it's an important crop for hawaii it's an important cultural crop and so from both the cultural the agricultural aspects we think that the permits are needed and are in support of the agricultural uses on the property and like  said anyone who's seen a property or if you look at the photographs and the listings in both the the department of planning to report and in the application you can see that this is not something that is some minor you know by the site type of agricultural use it is a serious working farm and miss wilson has come up with creative ways with limitations on them that t but for going to the specifics of my application i would like to share a little family background first of all i have to apologize for my brother  to parents frank broacha and mary roche my mother came here from portugal when she was just three months oh and i tell the story to all the children that come to my home and all this in fact all the tourists and anyone that comes to our home we  them the importance of the immigrants and what their contribution was to the to the island we talk about the plantation days so just a little bit about  felt i had a little something to contribute and so she said why don't we find a way for you to get an education here my mom with the force with education my dad with a fourth grade education and today i stand before you educated  college education one generation and that also only happened because i joined the service i was i just joined after the korean war i graduated from high school in one thousand nine hundred eighty five and then went to the military and i got training as a dental technician and produced two of the first females to graduate from that special school in portland houston texas and one was a girl from and myself from how we had to that only men went to the school they were two other women that also graduated but the rest just didn't make it so that so what happened was because i didn't know about what i wanted to study it was only until after i got through with the military that i started to look to see what is it that i really really wanted to do with my life and what i really wanted to do i had no clue because college was an option because i had the g i bill but i didn't know what i wanted to study until i got pregnant i was married i got pregnant after eight years i had my son and i started when i got pregnant i started to show my own clothes i went to take a class at the y and it was at that point that i took to the fashion aspect of it i look at what i could study and i went to the fashionista to technology a state university and i realized i was working during the day i had a baby and i needed to go to school so i went to school at night it took me eight years at night to get my degree while i went to school i designed and actually received a u s pack or a ruler as a matter of fact i saw a woman here  still in seoul today and i don't know who you are but thank you for bringing she when i when i designed it it was i was still in school and i got the u s pat and as i did that it changes revolutionized the way patterns were being altered so i started my company fashion attics i went into i worked very very hard day and night and many many weekends in order to accomplish what i think my parents wanted me to do and i worked and finally i was fortunate enough to sell the company ethics and then somebody in washington d c saw me doing some television work i received a call and said would you mind representing us and the project was the we've lost most of this industry to other other countries but that was a project that i was very very proud of and then i got to be a spokesperson for a number of people and for those of you that i had mentors i had a lot of mentors a lot of people who helped me to get to the next stage in the next stage of my life finally i was asked by both butterick to be their spokesperson again coming from each vocal to end up in new york it can only happen in america so i then met my husband bill wilson and actually i went to work for his company only because there was someone that i knew very well that had left the company and said we need a spokesperson had told butterick what do we actually own a brochure and it was at that point that i did go to go and i became their spokesperson and it was there that i met my husband bill wilson who is the owner and he had only had a high school education but he worked so hard he worked until he finally bought the company so he own so what happens when we got married we both love molly so we bought a house in while i am a gulf a state and we kept coming back coming back coming back and my husband who was a little bit older than i said you know they want to i love being on maui i look playing golf heads didn't have six point so i let that go the first time because i thought it was an error the second time a call the realtor and the realty took me up there she took me up there with the farmer and it was interesting because the path it was really just  mountain with trees everywhere there was just have to walk up halfway up we walked the gentleman that came with that was also looking at the property who was an agricultural person he said forget it i'm not this doesn't this won't fly for ag and he left i continued to the top and i walked up to the top through the trees to the very point and it was them and i saw my way like i've never seen maui before and for those of you who have seen it on the no that is perhaps one of the most beautiful sights of maui and so my husband then it was his dream actually and mine was to move closer to family because that was why we came back we came back to be with my family and so we started to build the house up a while ago heights but before we even did that we put we even started we had this i could have said we could have subdivided that property it's five point seven five acres we chose not to do it we chose instead to ask for any to give us to do some research so we could you realize the land he came back to us and said coeval is probably the only thing that would work here the slope as you saw is quite prominent we want to get i mean i i could pull weeds there all the time and we started planting and i have to say the entire property which is five point seven five acres has irrigation we did not say let nature take its course we put those plants in because we had tremendous respect for it and we expected it to provide one i think root for the for the community to have these  wo further endemic in indigenous trees and so since then we've been adding oh gosh i have over three hundred and debbie mentioned three hundred we've lost track because you know when one dies we put another away it was just in the beginning of the place being developed and and knowing how much you love molly and wanted to complete the project after his death there was a stress and finances in order to continue the farm it was the farm requires not only water but we have to pump the water up to the to the water tank where you have to then gravity feed brings it down japan germany can we have gas from everywhere can we come up and see here and so at that point we thought we got the permit or i don't think it's a permit i think it's it's not it's a it's a approval yes we got the approval to do two hours as well as for lunch at lunches which we we do periodically i have to tell you we had one two or that if it didn't make me really really proud we had one terrific the people who came from canada that visited our farm we did the tour of the plants of the of the farm and we did honey tasting which is something else that we do because we raised so at that point this group came from from canada and they knew that i was on the chances advisory have a college at the end of the tour they handed me a check for five thousand dollars to give to the university of hawaii and it was it was most satisfying to have those additional funds to give to a college for scholarships let's see what else we need here  house you know we talk about the farm in the farm is really important which is the thing that brings people up there the trees are medicinal purposes how the hawaiians the canoe plants how do they bring them how do they do that so the children the seniors the adults and  mit from hawaii and his work he probably recognize it seabury hall and so what so the house has tremendous significance architectural significance in addition to that opportunity to bring many many people just i host them it is just my pleasure as you heard some of the children today the two young adults today they got so much from the trip up there to see the plants the house and to listen to my story anyway just as another point the fact that we can do tours we could open up loaner ridge which we did originally brought here here which i have put away because this pressure was intended to open the lonely ridge three days a week we were going to have tours ten in the morning and one in the afternoon but when i sat with my so is it mars i said mars this is not going to war i really don't want to have three days a week people coming up to through the community and coming to the house i live there this is my home i don't want people that are not by a guest list in appointed to be there or through a guest list so we  instead of doing it three days a week was wednesday friday and sunday to two hours a day not unlike what is happening up at arms so if you'll turn it in for was to look to see how else we could generate income and that was why we came to where we are today and that what i'm asking for now  is to help me out to continue the farm so i can continue to grow the cultural plans to bring the children up and i keep talking to children i know you know i heard somebody say where they can go someplace else to go look at plants like this if you listen to some of the other kids they said not like loner it so what i'm asking for my request is this i would like to have or  we will have a guest list so we know who will be coming on the property it will be no street parking but i'm asking for approximately one hundred people and if you see our house you know we can certainly accommodate that with all the land and the house that we have and and we have on the property thirty six parking spots on property that will be no parking on the street now  down at a college and shuttle people to our home which he has agreed and i offered him as i said be happy to pay for the space he said no no no i said what i tell you what w you two hundred dollars every time we have with you is your parking spot so i work the shuttle in aspect of it additional parking at from a college very important because no it has been talked about and talked about they will be no amplified music there will be two of us on our property in any event at all times so we can control what is happening besides the wedding planner or the corporate representative or whoever will also be there ceremonies and how they talk about noise the ceremonies will generally end at ends up at the very point of our house and have their celebration actually i would really really like to have them most of us to have the most people to have their ceremony and enjoy the talk and the graduations for another hour or so and then go to the nearest restaurant and enjoy the celebration there but you know i would like to have that but it nonetheless we have the facilities for a permits mean a lot to me means a lot to the community and i intend to serve the community in any way i can but that being said and i know you've heard a lot of things about me today and as my brother said it almost didn't recognize me and for those that don't know me well they know that i have was brought up by marian frank russia have enormous respect for people too that was that statement i go to load a ridge every monday and have for the last year and a half lower ridge has great potential in serving the needs of the students of now as there are numerous native hawaiian plants on the property that leona tries to preserve there are many artifacts on the property that she also has that could be educational not only to the students but to people in general i'll give you an example of something that the she has done for students financing of the farm who runs he can in turn get some of that money that she's earning to bring more students up about her ridge and teach them some more things about the whole why and heritage a minister procedures act was one of the fundamental laws were adopted immediately have to stay to it it's a very important law i think those of us who are still alive having lived through the years since that time now realize how very important that was and equity all that would been developed in england the difference between equity law and a common law was that in equity law you could tailor a decision you couldn't do that under common law as a matter of fact you can't do it under law today equity you can tailor a decision and that's our professors pointed out was one of the advantages of the administrative procedures that are now the permits th being requested today are two different statutes one hundred one statute and the others the county ordinance and both the ordinance and the land use statute with provides for his special use permit that you're being asked to grant are somewhat unique because they provide for the tailoring of your decision like conditions i know the planners them probably don't like me to say this but cation in the when you swap between discretionary permits mandatory permits clearly the permits that have been asked for her discretion are i want to go back to this idea being able to tailor a decision i said through the morning part of your hearing i listen vehemently protest i don't necessarily agree with them i understand re roy's objection to some of th various parties in this proceeding i live in however i'm very familiar with the property we go up to the property we're good friends of the owners of obviously i know her i know the property i don't know the anybody i've never been into any of the neighbor's homes but if you look at the lot and you look at the ordinance it's clear that the requirements of the ordinance and the statute are satisfied by the application the question of course is going to be what conditions you want to impose it you can please but thank you very much good afternoon my name is lisa davis i live on cool even drive within five hundred feet of the world and property i don't have time to tell my full life story at this time but be assured that each one of us has our own unique past experience that we bring here and that found our way to why those who hates my husband and i bought our home here and moved in in two thousand and seven we looked at many homes in other parts of the island but show this one because the neighborhood seemed ideal besides the beautiful views and central location we were attracted to it low traffic quiet streets and consistently well kept home we chose this location over others in large part because it had rules and regulations established and maintained by an active homeowners association we agreed to abide by these rules when we made the decision to buy here and we have done our best within a few months the owner proposed polo field with horses in a park for example horse like many others were had been told our property backed up to conservation land but as it turned out it was actually the agricultural mrs wilson vehemently opposed the development at the meeting and she and her husband saying she and her husband would never do anything like that they just planned to spend a quiet retirement in their new home which is the wilson agreed to the same rules and regulations that the rest of us it at the time of purchase even poked out against another property owner's special use but then did a complete turnaround to serve her own to suit her own financial gains now she is asking you to ignore the rate of over three hundred families and the protective covenant that it leased to homeowners associations in order to run her commercial business she then can you to ignore the intent of the original developers of oil eco hype sections one and two and to have and maintain a purely residential community without the disruption from any commercial enterprise we as a community should not be forced to endure the impact the special use permit or request will bring in the form of traffic  and not only from the customers but also of the set up and the breakdown from the crews for each event she already have her form her farm permit allowing her the educational tours for the the elderly or elderly and the tourist i'd also like you to understand we have been fighting this battle to keep our neighborhood commercial for over three years and it has brought much stress to our lives we have endured many threats and public degradation over this issue most recently our realtor received a call from a man identifying himself as richard richard he got shamed threatening a lawsuit against us why would he call a realtor and not but to threaten the sale of our home for any and all commercial activities and k such as social events corporate activist workshops and other commercial activities at least a man's have no relationship to agriculture use of the property without opening a commercial business intentioned with our right to live in peace and quiet major concerns are increase in traffic and noise fire and evacuation personal safety impaired drivers parking ha traffic flow noise and safety when i mentioned them are operated without regard to our privacy welfare or quality of life oh protect the covenants conditions and restrictions must be respected to protect our destroy the character of our residential neighborhood so the property values and tranquillity of one homes for the benefit of commercial use by one persons activities i urge good afternoon thank you for the opportunity to speak my name is lillian man and like mrs wilson i also grew up in the plantation village of camp one in spreckels hill as a resident a while ago heights and living within five hundred feet of the owner ridge i want to voice my opposition to loan the original application for permits to conduct quote special events photo shoots filming art shows retreats and workshops and quote the key words here are special events which could and probably does include wedding receptions birthday parties anniversary parties graduation parties retirement parties even your years parties et c most of these parties will include alcohol and it's obvious to many problems associated with that my concern is frankly drunk driving and probable horrific accidents down easy drive as you know from the site inspection of august night coulibaly is a very steep curved road i can easily imagine intoxicated drivers missing the top curve hitting damaging and perhaps destroying public and private property and causing bodily harm to increase the party goers caterers servers and other trends and workers not only will increase traffic but they also increase criminal activity in our neighborhood i am especially concerned about burglaries car break ins and vandalism lower ridges request would be a major intrusion into our quiet safe neighborhood because the party noise and increased traffic along our residential ro commercial events held there will not be harmonious to our peaceful residential neighborhood i and all other why little high school mourners will be negatively impacted first and stated earlier increase in traffic and criminal activity second home values will decrease as a result of commercial events held in our desirable residential neighborhood sir r c z n r may become void if mon original request is approved because clearly prohibits commercial activity what happened to respecting and abiding our neighborhoods regulations a very bad precedent will be set a major concern is liability shouldn't talk to cater for disabled g fall into the pool and drown or fall down the very steep and deep edges and sustain major injuries or die as you know from the site visit there is no protective fencing around the perimeter perimeter of the front lawn tremendous increase in our association dues it's not a matter of if an accident will occur in the winter ridge or on a road it's a matter of when so i urge you to deny lunar richard permit application thank you again for your time and attention and consideration to this very important matter and we had a commercial that was that we went joe all the way down to behind them on a daily basis because it is commercial and we didn't want to offend our neighbors so during that time we thought where could we live that would be a little bit closer you know a lot quieter and we can come home from the busy traffic the loud noises with the commercial areas now so we moved there with built and moved there in one thousand nine hundred two and we've never had any kind of trauma as we have today the drama of being dad turning this into a commercial area is nothing a lot of us on one hand and when we signed a c c and we decided that everybody else was going to do the same this was fine until just recently and this is been going on for a while we have written we've had meeting some not very respectfully and we also had a lot of letters that we had to and it was gone on for so many hours and so much  our time and nothing has been done so i'm just wondering once she gets approved for the special conditions we'll do is keep on going on does the segue into wondering how many more times this will happen during the week and also what how many times and who would be monitoring how many times this would happen during the week so i'm just saying i oppose that thank you for your time began work at what was then called the maui agricultural company when he was fourteen years old when the owner's mother mary left madeira as a three month old baby and she began work in the low a cane fields when she was only twelve and nineteen twenty five mary and frank remarried and began their lives together in the home of coco cam they worked hard to create a better life for their children a court parenting concept i imagine most in this group room grew up with as well thank him mary instilled in leona the truly american value of pulling yourself up in the world with work in education they taught leona that hard work and a good education molly's own architect charles dickey start work here on our island leona plants indigenous and non invasive plants in her garden she generously shares her home with our large family and with various children doctrine and events could be a fashion photo shoot an art gathering wedding ceremonies or a space for business or religious retreats we own his home would be particularly compelling to small groups rimbaud hawaii and elsewhere who are looking for an environment that inspires reflection and peace and a small events will have defined hours and carefully choreographed transportation services anticipated income generated by just four events per month at luna ridge would allow and also to also continue to generously share her home and time with our seniors who lived plantation life like her parents and enjoy sharing their stories and also close is to be on his heart children's groups i watch leona closely talking with various children's groups that she invite mona ridge i see her sharing the same powerful example she has been for me my whole life i watched that familiar dynamic occur over and over again with these are that in children i'm almost done and i get chicken skin knowing just how life changing her good example can be she models a life not of ease and leisure but one of opportunities in advancement it is wonderful that she wants to share that part of her as part of her future plans for a loan or a bridge we own is always sensitive and respectful of her neighbors and our fragile social and physical environment here on maui she lives alone a ri it's not a piece of real estate for rent it's her home on behalf of our family i support leona's permit application thank you very much for this  morning and this afternoon to the pros and cons from both sides the pros tend to generally discuss the high quality years of ms wilson's activities and hold good works that she has  the contrary positions are of the neighbors who find that providing this exception would make their lives less tolerable in our community they also feel that this may impact negatively on the al you of their community if these kinds of exceptions are allowed beyond this particular one we're talking about the slippery slope idea unfortunately i think there's a knot there issue involved for the homeowners when any advance purchase to property and why will people heights and that area we had a real belief that this was truly a residential area that there was no possibility of commercial activities that's the reason i purchased that it's difficult to get up the hill it's very steep and people who don't know how to drive there sometimes get in trouble and i think the big issue here is batter of trust that trusts in the government and it institutions to adhere to the rules that they have set up in the loaning in stating that this is strictly a residential area and then starting to pick away and saying well not really we can do this we can do that and it's too bad if you bought it with the idea that it was strictly residential i think this does stress in government how it and how it operates has been shown in the presidential campaigns from both sides people are very unhappy with the way that things are done that you cannot believe and you cannot believe what the government says is so residential area and now you're going to decide it is no longer so so i think it's unfortunate and if you decide in paper of this i'm afraid other community is that aspect really residential will have problems also which may continue for the future thank you a christmas was first to him when she also mentioned that she wanted our children grandchildren to be able to celebrate their weddings by having an affordable option we were all excited for them especially since more than likely will be helping them financially with their wedding expenses her heart is in the right place at the local penn station girls and we appreciate her hospitality and generosity includ good afternoon and thank you for your time and spend a long day for you and i my name is helen macarthur i live at seven o five louisiana way which is directly in the five hundred square foot area but in the meantime windsurfing became very very popular and so all of a sudden this neat neighborhood kids you know playing in whatever became of windsurfing some houses were rented we didn't know the neighbors police officers were or at our door on many occasions because the house next door got ripped all of you know all of the research and problems that come with events and people nonresidents and i'm not saying anything against the illegal t v or is that where they are in those states so that that didn't happen but right next door to us was a home that was used as an event illegally probably and believe me i cannot tell you how invasive that became they had events we had the helicopters out in the in the ocean boats coming in because so i'm so was going to be there at a special event and and the word gets out you think you can try to control it but with when you have all these people who are in that business somebody tell somebody about somebody is going to be there and whatever it's it becomes a public event it's not a little private business wonderful anyway that come to those to change our plans to our local sites where we have purchased a lot previously and we're going to build a house where we didn't build a house but we settled and well here already which is there any quiet residential now the same thing is going to happen in our neighborhood association she agreed to abide by the rules and regs in the c c and r s of our subdivision no problems and she built and i there's no question it's a beautiful piece of property and she's done a marvelous job this is not about what has taken place up there and how many down trees are there this was initially about allowing that to be the opera the kids ok so now the children can come up there they can enjoy  this great now we're going into events and believe me that word events is like it's our red flag and i have witnessed a personally i'm on the board of the man if you've ever wanted to see what takes place when an event is going to happen could down there in the afternoon of an event is planned that night small medium or large it's major anyway i just think that when we when we agreed to all of these things that the the initial the initial permits which you allowed have been are in place that schoolchildren can go up there we strongly urge that you take a no position on the the current application before you of to carry on the culture and tradition of our beloved what he and my homeland i came to be introduced to mrs wilson a couple of years ago by a colleague who said that she wanted to talk to someone who could talk to her about plants well one of the big plays that i play is lullaby medicinal plants and so i went up there and i met her and started walking the property and  at the time but in addition to that i noticed some other plants and seemed to just pop up and she didn't know about her property really is a living example of cool d v d it's really interesting that that the road that leads up to the property up there is a cooler event which means native plants and as i drive up there the only native land that i see is at the end of the road i see a subdivision very nice very high cost you know no problem there you know backroom game of some sort so i'm highly confident that whatever happens up there is going to be the benefit far beyond the whole commercial aspect that people are talking about because our investment five hundred feet of the wilson property events and commercial filming which have already been held at the location with no permit have had a negative impact to the joyful and peaceful enjoyment of my home the sound from the commercial trucks bands buses cars to these events have been a major disturbance could even drive is an extremely steep roadway which intensifies the sound of these vehicles laboring to reach the top of the hill a large percentage of these vehicles then drive at excess high speeds down the street i see it because the property is agricultural land and is supposed to be a farm dwelling prime dwelling is for the former to occupy so the farmer can work the land this property is zoned agricultural land and that's this property is already receiving the benefits of lower property taxes and special water rates by granting this permanent it would be completely opposite to the intent of the state agricultural the major use of the property will be for special events rather than  fact as recently as within the last month mrs wilson has an online website where she offers use of her home at five thousand dollars a night the granting of the special permit will alter your central character of the neighborhood the events do not conform to the neighborhood and will negatively impact him affect property values the change proposes a threat to the health and safety of the neighborhood due to the increase in traffic and serving alcohol and those people driving in our neighborhood the only access in and out of the neighborhood is to completely residential neighborhoods the negative impact can change the neighborhood does not justify the special permit as it is and is also opposed by the majority of the neighbors he interviewed these events will interfere with the peaceful enjoyment of my home and it is insane there seems to be a very big misconception with mrs wilson supporters who believe the farm tours for seniors and children will be not permitted without this permit the children in the receive do not require a special permit and are currently permitted under the form plan there has been no connection and need not be considered in this matter thank you you did that because i think by doing that you can truly understand how windy poorly this road is and get a better  created by consolidating a lot one forty four that is located in what we call heights too with the surrounding property to create this five point seven five acre property and in conduct in connection with the original o c will observe and perform all the terms covenants conditions and restrictions set forth in the c c and r s so these provisions speak for themselves and you know in the department report their statement that the applicant states that the stars do not apply and you know i read through all the material and i read through it again the intent was but maybe i just missed it you know we're all getting a call it is all for us other people and so it seems that you know the consolidation really does not from the c c an art exhibit six to that testimony and also for your convenience we've attached the copy of the deed that was originally attached to the applicant's original permit application that show the proof of ownership so people can drink people can have parties and then maybe leave the party and not have to live in everything to drive home to another community in certain ways some are concerned and have you have you guys ever had a protest about people having too many parties inside where you can hide the people drinking and driving and when you quite ok let me give you a caviar or i'm in the uk i've been on the board since february i've been the president since march and so i can give you what tell you what i know about we have during those months i have not had to complain about too many parties and you know there's been any traffic accidents due to drivers on the influence in your neighborhood not that i'm aware of what happened look at the police an hour from now i got sixteen more people on the list so i'm trying to go through this as fast as we can going back to public testimony knows we have  it's one house in from cool if you drive the main entrance to and from london rich we walk our sixteen year old dog three times every day in the early morning in the evening and again streets oh a monitor and report these violations already homeowners are fearful of reprisals from the new ridges owner due to numerous threats of costly lawsuit against both the homeowners association and individual owners couple this with the frequent failure to police enforcement prosecute countless other violations of current count county laws i'm not a very quiet place except for the place six in the morning till night in the morning when people are all going down the hill to work or school and it becomes a little bit busy from like three th everybody comes home to sleep but they they go off to work or school and the result is in the middle of the day from like nine in the morning till three in the afternoon it's in terms of the local folks being around it's dead they're all going somewhere on the lawn guys are there in the construction people and they're still around but it's a very very quiet time and we enjoy that because you can watch the red lights as they go by but you can't even hear the siren lucas heights i wouldn't want to change that was any measure and that's why it's so concerning to me that one woman can have very different ideas about what's important and those of us who have lived here i estimate it's a twelve or thirteen hundred people well many of them  my vehicle by professional driver so we don't you know impact the community to negatively so that's what we have to say succinctly thank you very much unique questions thank you master's degree and he be here now he's on the golf course ok i didn't realize that when i invested in this ruler years ago that would kind of be contributing to the klein of my neighborhood in new york and i'm from new york state  about is the soil erosion if you look up there it's coming down all right where the trees where the roots are going to hold the soil in place also i don't think europe could coolly we've got a great program teaching the kids about agriculture where they get their hands dirty so it's the idea of let them get their hands dirty just don't show them the plants all right so basically that said so in other words i am definitely kind of against this i love our neighborhood i love the choir and i love the people and i'm against it thank you residential area that is free from commercial activity whe public but rather for this proposal is selling tickets for the privilege well not commercial cities and business opportunities on maui will not need to expand the commercial enterprises into times voices it would seem that there are really two agendas here one being the school student activities that benefit the children and teams of our island this is not the issue one is is mrs wilson's request a special special commercial permit in a residential community for corporate meetings weddings day retreats honey tasting and sales and so on for one hundred people four times a month and all for profit does the one hundred also include the event power panel planners caterers and everything else connected to these functions mrs wilson has stated that there will be no sound application even so the noise could be her frien her parent is granted it will leave the door open for other commercial parents and will more than likely have a negative effect on all our property values i situation and when i see quiet on any given night you can hear if there's a concert going on and in the ampitheater at the mac you can hear it and finals is eighteen hundred eighty eight hundred feet away if you look at the radius around surrounding what i call ground zero the two thousand square on consoles are put radios encompasses most of talking about a route that is eight point five times shorter than them from the map so you're going to get around that impact with any kind of concert awaiting that's there  my auntie kay and my father they're both seized but if they were able to be able to realize we were having  community and and so i see there's a park so was that designed to keep everybody out of what should have been a gated community or oh no it was the idea it was never meant to be a gated community because full build out we have something like three hundred units or units one into a park was put there from what i understand because that was the only requirement imposed by the county of maui at the time and in this neighborhood or you guys or is was it me to be like i think it is that mowing everybody's part of the same island and everybody sort of shared the most there's no special rolled that only us can go on while there was a reason for putting quickly drive in other words early but it would have to good afternoon how davis i'm a past president three years why the who hates to maybe i can answer a couple of the questions that were answered asked before if you allow me to question with ask has anybody ever complained about parties in the neighborhood from one neighbor to the other yes they have if you like the documentation i have every letter and every response from the board at that time i will give you the lot numbers  i took a lot of effort to get the pulse of the neighborhood about this endeavor mrs wilson want to do i went personally that every home with the exception of one then asked them what they thought of special events and having weddings are myths and so on up at the top of the hill and one hundred thirty one incidents we have eleven vacant lots i sent letters to them with a self addressed stamped for the return comment the other people that i went to see approximately one hundred fifteen of those neighbors said they do not want commercial enterprises in our neighborhood they're not allowed to do it they don't want someone else to do it it's kind of like the cam with the news under the tent once they camel gets as news and attempts he's coming in the inspection of mrs wilson's property as me most of you did and as i was in the property i looked around because this is a resident show property that's going to be used now for commercial events this is a commercially better establishment if you look around there's an exit sign that's supposed to be lit at each exit in this room not at mrs wilson's house also handicapped access zero at mrs wilson's house also got in touch with the national fire prevention and the driveway to her home to meet code would have to be twenty he wide and have a turnaround on it because if you have an emergency and you have a quote unquote thirty six parking spaces which when i was there there were twenty two cars and i was double parked in so i don't know where you're going to get the other people to park but what if you have six cars coming down a fire truck  an ambulance coming up how do they pass we have a problem and most importantly it was designed as a residence in a residential neighborhood you ask about from agriculture that says it's very poor doesn't grow anything why would you use it that was her choice don't put the burden on our community to subsidize her income to make her lifestyle what it is thank you also before i leave mrs wilson and her attorney at twenty four minutes we got thr prepared for over the past couple years couple of a couple weeks but i think i'm just going to shoot from the heart as someone you may know i'm also a developer for affordable housing and we have a project up in kula that went through the affordable of the affordable housing fast track to a one for one each process about eight years ago and during that process  encountered a real strong knot in my back yard maybe a hood on anti sentiment not afraid of my workforce housing units but afraid of the misrepresentations and have truths made by the opponents that were vehemently opposed to the project no matter what and so some of the these misrepresentations and misrepresentation s got into the neighborhood and tainted the positions of some of the neighbors and it was hard to to recover from on some of that but for the most part we were successful in  making the community understand that the benefit of weight the challenges and i think that's what i'm here speak to you about today is there's the benefits of this special use permit  which challenges and i think when you really sit down and think about it if you look at the character of the applicant i think that's where it's going to provide you with the answer the applicants character can speak for herself and i think if commission members are willing to put conditions that are reasonable to mitigate the concerns of the neighborhood i think there could be a peaceful resolution to within the neighborhood and both could peacefully coexist and so that's that's my i'm also been one of the longest members up there and twenty six years up on food cooling e v drive and so i know all of the background and history behind and part of it all of this all started from the misunderstanding that most of the neighbors thought that it was a conservation zone property which is not it's an agricultural zone property so just from there this whole thing just started getting pretty ugly but anyway i think if you were to read through the paperwork it's probably some misrepresentations that need to be clarified and once you get past all of that i think if you look at the character of the applicant and i think you'll be able to me can decisions  i'm here for my family to represent us in opposing the the special and conditional use permit for loner ridge i don't want to you know i sell a lot of the same sentiment as most of these people so i'll  just cut to new things that i think that you might or understand i did a little bit of research about the the special news permits to my knowledge no special use permit has been granted  we are setting up precedence here you know we're saying you know what zoning and in my opinion i'm not a i'm not a i'm an engineer with the county i am not a planner but in my opinion zoning is like you don't put a barn restaurant inside of a residential community because of the deleterious effects that's from the now coming coat and any case so i think we're setting precedence here i think we should be very careful and take very special deliberation on the other thing as i heard people say that nobody walks in the neighborhood i have a picture here this is from from my cold a sack of kids a razor across the street i gets i think i also included in my letter and that's pretty to keep my family and i we also i have three children and we typically walk about five days a week within the neighborhood and that's morning and evening whenever we have a chance the other exhibit i want to show you folks is that the actual steepness of that road you know it's come up several times how steep that road is it's actually four percent steeper and then the county standard the county standard now is fourt percent those drawings help show profile showing eighteen percent coming down on her from her cul de sac so that also i want to address people talking about parties and we haven't had any drunk driving incidents it's because we don't have a bar and restaurant in our neighborhood or you know i think statistically speaking how many what percent of people you know if we start to have events such as these weightings for example i'm not i'm not against the kids coming up i'm not against but you know as soon as we open up to when weddings and i've been guilty of having one too many are waiting myself so i mean i completely understand you know i'm not telling people they can't drink it whiting's but sometimes people have bad decisions they make bad decisions after a minute's up so it has nothing to do with you know oh what how many accidents have been in your neighborhood it it's going to it's going to go up the the the statistical probability of it happening are going to be much higher if you have parties for profit in a sense what we're talking about  out is that i have the privilege of meeting this beautiful woman about a year and a half and she inspired me through many different ways coming up to lunch at her house on mondays sharing quality time with her family and being loved and supported by her family as i was her own child and i think having this on especially event permit will allow her to offer more jobs in our community t difference of the standard of law on marriage is that this is a community center and yes this is a center where you have events and parties but at luna ridge where somebody will spend five thousand dollars for an event versus somebody or spend three hundred dollars for all of this so make to put it on another scale do you fly first class or do you fly coach so that level or that standard that  permit we purchased our home in this tranquil residential area and fear that our homes will be negatively affected by their stench with we want to keep business out of our residential area we don't want another wailea in our backyard in our busy and complicated lives we need a place for recess and to decompress after a hard day and our homes provide this so proving th special use permits to loaner bridge will destroy the peaceful setting in our neighborhood blood over the blood bank which isn't about me but i also bowl and cheer as a gardener master gardener of university of hawaii so i believe in the community one neighbor helping neighbors i don't know how many times that you see here you hear on the media today from someone who is running for office and says i can help our neighbors persist neighbors can help out neighbors helping neighbors we'll talk about that you either walk the walk or you just sit back and say well i guess she can go ahead and do what she wants to do was absurd to think that somebody has got a business that there is running a negative that says i'm not i'm going to go out and have my neighbors i'm going to stand on their shoulders so that they can pay through their having to accept all of the inconveniences that this process would allow that's absurd to think that somebody would not plan for those particular can incidences that require additional money and i was a businessman i'm seventy years old now and i still run and i still do all of the things i could ever do before i ran a business i was thirty five years personal i agree with the children they go up there they get a chance to see something that happens to be good with all right that's good we all want their seniors to go up there i haven't been there but i probably could but to go up there and be able to see something that's really nice is good for those residents for those people who purchased land in y duhoux heights and said ok i agree to these particular principals and not principals these were this was the as it was given to everybody all of us that that bought it and we say well there is no this is not make scene residential and commercial there's a difference between the two ladies and gentlemen you understand there and that's why i  this particular process and i would like very much for everybody else to concern themselves with what are we doing to try to help one another i doubt that this young lady is going to be down or saying i can help an additional person to clean their yard the part of their tree what are we asking what are we expecting to gain by doing this saving her money on the backs of the people who live there orton's comments concerns location the residential feel the safety and the quiet we enjoy relaxing on our deck or in our home at the end of the day and on weekends listening to the birds the wind in the trees and other sounds of nature my two boys grew up playing street hockey skateboarding running their bikes on a relatively flat street the kind neighbors would slow down and patiently wait while the boys moved the calling nets or skateboard ramp to the side my four kids and i walked off and walked the neighborhood either to go to the park or to visit their friends at the other end of our local heights i now enjoy these activities of my grandkids i also walk the neighborhood several times a week up and down the main streets and also on the road in the various letters streets and i see many many residents also doing this and utilizing the streets as you know way to exercise and alleviate stress as my family grew up moved away and returned to live on  here they were appalled to see the top of the mountain cut down and the residents occupying the space but we realized that it was leona wilson's right as property owner i'm a third generation descendant of okinawa immigrants s students for the young and shipping ears open and kiki and i'm not here to attack the character in any way however having the events on her property will negatively affect all of us who live in my local heights i'm extremely concerned with the added outside traffic safety issues and noise that passed in this request moving john neighborhood even without amplified music my family and i have been financially and emotionally invested in our neighborhood for twenty nine years we love living there because we love the residential feel the safety and the quiet and to support mrs wilson's request goes against the very reasons why we chose to live in one of the co heights so i asked for your support in opposing this thank thank you for letting us speak and sorry i'm at the end but i wasn't sure i get pulled away from work my name is rebecca armado i mean administrate of the pacific cancer institute and up until a few weeks ago the vice president of the board why lucas heights to homeowners association more importantly i live at five eight nine cool evie drive i am the immediate next door neighbor alone a ridge her driveway goes up along the side of my house and around behind my house i'm here in support of  visiting for thirty five years a new for my first visit i would retire here eighteen months ago i bought my house and moved here with my parents from the mainland i spent the first year in home twenty four hours a day seven days a week as caregiver per my parents as my mom has all timers and my father was only and i haven't heard him the noise from luna ridge i don't have an air conditioner and my windows are always wide open and every day we're outside playing scrabble and listening to everything going on i've heard neighbors playing basketball until midnight card he's a hall next door until two am a child practicing what i think is a clarinet dogs barking a feral cat fights neighbors getting home from work at three am motorcycles revving their engines and cars driving around the circle in front of my house at all or stand night just to take in the view for my call to sack i'm also awakened by roosters competing to be first the songs of dogs the birds too many to count old screeching tears bu yes there are deer in that valley and get those keeping me up at night but those are all sounds wild who had to live with life animals and people i wouldn't complain about any one of them all have a right to be here what i don't hear is what everybody else seems to be hearing of the cars when they're going right behind my house i believe we have an obligation to wake up each day and get without expectation of receiving inspire and encourage the dreams of others young and old  world better than we found it and treat everyone with warmth and compassion that's the aloha spirit i fell in love with them when i started coming thirty five years ago that's the aloha spirit i've experienced a lot on ridge and i'm blessed to have them as neighbors all my to say what a neighbor can or can't do  property even if to make money especially when the money is used to respect and care for the land and give back to the community sharing molly's rich history and beauty with residents and visitors the way i personally experienced ilona ridge i saw my eighty nine year old father world war that and physician brought to tears by the inspiring view of my from luna ridge and also by the warmth he felt except and excitement of the children he was seeing there he wanted to be here today to speak and support but he died a few weeks ago he said tell them spending time alone ridge made an old man feel young again there's been complaints that you weren't hearing from the other homeowners i wanted to hear to speak in support of her and i want to say i was voted by the majority of the homeowners knowing that i was a print of hers because they wanted an even keel poised and the people that have spoken opposition have been threatened and bullied as i have and that's why i resigned from the board because if you aren't part of being vocal minority it's appears that you can't have an opinion at all so i support the owner or just keeping up a patient and hope it is granted so residents and visitors will be reminded why they love inspire them to pay forward remind them about being stewards of the land and being kind to your neighbors and leave a little piece of heaven on earth better than we found it thank you for i walked on even as early as two days ago to my mailbox and i received a handwritten anonymous not handwritten typewritten anonymous note in my mailbox saying if i couldn't stand against my own as a c p application i shouldn't be standing at all and they would see to that now if it was just me hey i'm tough i'm a sicilian i don't care but i have to care for my mother who has also hammers and i have to be sure that i'm safe and we're safe and thank god i have a gate but it's sad to think that's where the reports and you call the police report i did not i spoke to the police about it and the reason is because it is anonymous they would have to go around and question the neighbors does that create a spirit we want i mean i mean a public in my resignation letter why it was resigning i don't want people question and everybody looking over their shoulder and who did this because i'd like to think that it is someone that is misguided and just has lost faith in the process i don't until we're keeping the wording separate the keeping the wording out of public so that if this person ever uses this particular wording that i did not repeat that will be able to identify but i volunteered and work with two police departments in my past newport beach and cancel springs there's nothing they can do unless i let them go and question everybody and i don't want to create that kind of thing in our neighborhood i mean that's not positive to me far i kind of feel like i'm in a unique position to weigh in on the realities of running a business in a neighborhood which is what i do i was recently here as well before  commission for those of you who don't know that and leading up to that particular meeting my meeting and son of the maori county commission i wanted to mention that for our business we received about three hundred positive written comments from the community of maui about one hundred of those in his rough numbers but about a hundred of those were personally written letters about a hundred were signed form letters of support and about  hundred were positive comments from our past brides all of them all those three hundred positive comments happened in about a one week time period so it shows in my mind a lot of support from the community for this sort of thing we didn't get one letter against us and i'm still getting letters today just kind of informal ones to me and i have been tossing them on but to me this means that the community in general support this kind of business and they appreciate the benefits it brings to the community and one of the benefits of my business is that on a good year we bring about two million dollars directly to the people who work in the wedding business that's the top refers and caterers and so on and so forth hundreds of employees of all these different businesses benefit from our weddings there definitely is a benefit to this t molly and to hawaii this isn't to mention the hundred thousand dollars in state taxes that we pay and all the other taxes that a business like are tough to pay a that's a lot of benefit to bring our community the port that we were privileged to enjoy proves that people really understand the benefits to everyone i'd like to mention to them with the exception of one neighbor all of my neighbors brought personal letters of leona can offer all that but what i understand about you know ms weddings and i could be wrong but what i keep hearing is that she's three minutes either way things won't be as noisy as mine  she's saying no application and mine are loud and even so i just would like to sort of put forward the idea that it may not all be and also there's been and i want to tell you a story today that i learned this morning through my son's eyes as you know the school to take children and chips and excursions in as we were preparing our morning my son asked me what i was going to do today and i told him that i was going to go and listen to the same people we look at pictures and talk to tour guides who not even from here they don't know what they come in about everything is rehearsed he told me and to me one is real all the aunties and uncle different this uncle roy and to love my anna and the entire rocher ohana a true plantation family that we have here today not too often do we get to experience these people and hear about their lives directly from the person we vision on special events which he personally told me was i see local couples having their ceremony here and taking their weddings to the neighborhood that can accommodate that many people have their photo shoot here and take their  to the community centers in the neighborhood that sort of vision our special events sort of odd right off the bat she said because if we do that too is the key to mars that's disrespectful to my neighborhood so i want to be respect women neighborhood let's requirement that you want to have me do to these groups is that you have to carpool or hire transportation when you go over thirty we have been doing that for the last eighteen months it has been successful so we have special events we're talking about it's not th them come in because you want to wants me to make sure that they bury understand what she's expecting of them we bring them to the house floor so they can see everything that's there before they come with it people kids party whatever it is so i just want to share that with testifiers and unfortunately we only have this room till five o'clock so that's fifteen minutes from now normally will be jumping to the communications i know the regarding the petition to intervene but we obviously not going to have time to listen to that and at this point i really have no other choice but to defer the next agenda item which is a communication intervene arguments against and you know arguments following that out and allow time for the commission to discuss it or decide on the petition or decide on those on th permits but that's going to take more time than what we have here so we will schedule it for a future meeting and we'll go from there the ok we will we will work with the applicant and the parties to see when we can get this back on the agenda we want everybody to be fairly represented on on this going forward so and on all this is the first time that we had two different in one item and as much as we all want to see this decision being made we just we can't do it obviously so  we're going to go on to i guess we're going to finish with these so we're going to go to the rest of the items which is going to wrap up in couple of minutes two will i be consulted and make it into my schedule not that anyone else is convenience and that's what we reported that we want to make it fair to all the parties and so everybody has a chance to make all of their arguments thank you because i i received my agenda this morning by are certified mail at seven a m for this meeting so i'd like to have a little bit more advance notice than that you will get more than three minutes  the next planning commission agenda on september thirteenth there are three public hearing items two of them are council resolutions regarding