all right we should start the public hearing of the proposed amendments to the land use regulations and jen is going to give us a little little synopsis of  changes and the process that we are using  everywhere except for a restaurant driver in the definition for restaurant drivers were specifically specifically restricted from the restaurant definition so restaurant drivers were restricted in the all version of the regula are allowed as a conditional use with those four conditions so the less people get the impression that i drive to zero allowed and it's going to go by per street across from the to the last thing i have to add that this actually is that in the definition of drive through it was explicitly it's explicitly stated that it's subject to a conditional use and in a table of usages that describes all the different uses for all the and that will do that is to make sure that everybody gets a chance is before you have a second shot ask you question and then make sure everybody has their first time but this is the time when we will now sit and take questions or some of the new documents his language in a little less for discoveries of new wet ones to enter into the decision making process when it comes s or even just conventional subdivisions ok all right the hat's off now ok private tom burble there's half a dozen typographical or references in the document to other  good ones myself and those would classify if it's just typos or things like that we classify as non significant so that would not change requiring a hearing only other discussion meter changes will require hearing objection there is that there's about a dozen significant natural communities very special areas in town a lot of them are on private legal land i would object to seeing that twenty percent exemption allow for and croce move in to one of these natural communit i've got no problem with you know channeling the development in such a way that you know allows people to reach their objectives but i don't think there should be an exemption that allows intrusion into a the next one on page forty two the purpose of section five point ten point i want them a lot sizes i'm not sure if i understand why we as i understand it if there is potential that they somebody let's put a little house on something like that you still have to work within the parameters i mean obviously would be to be something and leave or something but it would have to be seen it's not going to be is rather to a major or minor subdivision should require at least an advance warning to the public that these things are going to be with her groups well i think eight point two does  address that because this is an eight point two oh yeah ten point thirteen point eight point two that's the one you're talking about ok desi that would apply to a minor subdivision which comes to final but everyone who is doing is a division doesn't get to plan revealed and this is talking about it schedule plan where people would come in there's no people would talk about what they're interested in and the d m v would talk about well  condition i just like to see the apple gets rationale exactly because let me use the lonely applies to major subdivision so i think you write a nice little sentence clarifying that minor subdivisions should yeah i'm sorry ten nine three point two point b responsibility but this is a paragraph where the town can do something once or for all for everybody you have to live downstream from somebody else it's a place where you can insert language that to the effect says the amount of water that after is your neighbor's property before you develop it should dot be greater than the i  don't want to be dumping extra water on your downstream neighbor because the development and i've been to a couple of d r p hearings over the last two years where the exact thing is happening and i don't know if it's a loophole in the rules or nobody realize that that's you know given the slopes of some of these lands are kind of nebulous and i didn't realize that the water's going to flow that way but you put a little did cheryl next thing you know somebody is flooded so i think that is a good spot to spell out the we're not going to have subdivisions pollute or otherwise devore somebody else's pro think was our vision for coming to an agreement on that matter and then just as a little oversight if this a white board does many of the recommendations to the plane commission we would like know even specific to this matter perhaps on other matters we'd have to supply the opportunity to have a conversation with the select forward about what our thinking was in coming to some gotos conclusions if we decide that hey everything's cool and i've been doing thing then we wouldn't have a second hearing but based on comments tonight it is unlikely that we would just approve the regulations the way they stand which means that kick things back to the we either have a second hearing or we kick things back to the planning commission which changes it and then brings it  identified and this kind of a throwback to the weapon study that we've just concluded that there may be other sites where people were procuring their drinking water and as we start to fill protection areas out there that we haven't identified so i'd like to make sure there's a way that it goes things do come to the fore the yard there's a provision that they receive the same for flow rates in various neighborhoods you know water's a hit or miss thing people right next door to each other go from a gallon a minute to thirty gallons a minute that admitted to the planning commission hearing from the energy task force that's one i know of and then valerie needed one to the board but essentially just because she was here tonight she read what was in the letter what i'm saying if it was any more or any i just wanted to make sure s well i think at this point because we have a presentation and some other pressing issues when it comes to light yes or i'm sorry one public hearing which takes comes before a regular morning stand so that is coming absolutely was and the timing is not you know the agenda shifts because of timing but we don't close a public hearing until everyone has had a chance to speak but since everybody has i am going to close this public hearing on the proposed amendments the land use and we'll go on and start this like we're hearing all right if there's no comment from the public that is not on the agenda we're going to move on to face presentation and we thank you for your patience to legislation that enable pays on became active january first and so we're just we're still in program development so although you're not on the very front pages page if you're going to vote in pace in march you would be for the second wave of happens when you take out a case assessment is that money is paid out at the end of your project directly to the contractors that do the work for you and to you if you incurred expenses and in the course of getting the pieces done and then you pay it back over a period of years as a regular payment on the same schedule as you pay your taxes so it's not ok to do it on your power bill but it follows the same schedule because it's excessive water to a wastewater assessment for instance if you're familiar with that fun that minimums and maximums for ages are thirty five hundred and thirty thousand respectively dollars and that is somewhat based on the value of your home and say you can only take out up to fifty percent of your could no more than thirty more than thirty and you have to have thirty in equity or you have to have just going to get to that it's ok i think that's a good question so if you take the outstanding mortgage on your home and your pace assessment to that total that can not exceed ninety percent of the value of your home so you need definitely more than ten percent equity in your home to be able to finance even a dollar and i don't have numbers in front of me  that's why i'm here explaining it we have a mandated role in the legislation to provide a prior view and a cash flow analysis to you so you would send in your information to us we would take a look at the project make sure it meets those criteria of being one of those measures that  allowed to buy through place and then we would provide you with based on the projected energy savings on the cost of sort of the payback or cash flow analysis of your subjects in year one we're not just meeting energy future so we don't say in go forward with your project the credit facility financing the assessments would disperse that money and then you would begin painting and the idea of hope is that people are realizing energy savings that legislation says and what i found to do when the case was first introduced in vermont and there are some questions as far as how towns could possibly implement a program like this and the towns said they had a couple of problems we  legislation again this year and decided to make a couple of changes they first of all mean did that if she were among the states children would provide that project or to a cash flow analysis but also would be available to administer a program for the payments and a certain amount of period goes by a certain time goes by just as if you were to leave it on your taxes the town will send you a liar you are delinquent you must pay fees start penalties and things like that the town is responsibility of the towns and it's in the event that someone has gone delinquent on their faces it's not going to happen every day i'm gary she did well i'm sure it will happen at some point out of the thirty four towns we have i'm sure it will happen we haven't gone through it yet so i can't answer every question you might have about how it's going to work who sends what latter certainly want to work through the process for the town each town in vermont has sort of their own way of collecting delinquent taxes but  the percentage a second to percent fee or three percent for thirty days then it becomes a percent whatever the late fee is on tax payments the same schedule or by two assessments those late fees will be available to the town to sort of  leveraging twenty million dollars and so that's the first little monster account that gets depleted the state treasurer has set aside a million dollars to sort of back up that little monster so there's one point four million program so just because you hold a vote doesn't mean that you can immediately start access into these assessments and the reason is there are a number of the program has a very large description and there's quite a process associated with it and efficiency vermont can act as your piece administrators so there are three minutes of programs that need to be set up so many of the talent that voted in march for instance had a deadline of yesterday to get their paperwork in to be ready for the first case period so like take a few out tomorrow that some measure of the spending proved breaks up for five years or people decide to take it when they move back to greed but so that we're making sure that we're not creating projects with things like that and just say you know we do provide a project review the fixture however now now all of the pictures that were scheduled for the trial of the two were actually removed and i don't know that they were turned off either do you think so i'm still really  meeting so another letter was sent out to individuals record tech the first pleasure and of this meeting the board would be deciding what to do with the streetlights to give them the opportunity to talk to you face to face make their case social problems burglaries and things like that the more light the better job there have been there have been problems down there i don't know where ther specific to individuals it needs to be as you said the broader picture so that's why we're working our way through this process and the the other idea is that if we choose to go ahead with the process turning down the light because it really only thanks an individual rather than a quarter or something like that then that able to do this will be called a streetscape there you're right if we get something on your bridge it would be historic and pretty because it's a term that based on what you're saying you're not going to do  trying to can we afford this we do it and pieces and we get off and we get assistance from state to decide what grants come from grants state everything like that it's still coming out of my pocket well no the hours this report it's been really in lightning see and hear now you know what it feels like yes oh yeah you can get killed ok well actually having this down in here somewhere if you went to college this was the front section head because you had maps with all the comment that's a struggle because all the lights are on the other side of the road and when this light was put in and there wasn't another one on the other side and so they've recently i mean over the years they put one it would learn and then because that would make it would certainly make a lot of sense i looked at the distances on all those lights and i went through technically it's not that far away from that one  but given it is all senior citizens it would be nice to have it on the same side of the road i think it would be more effective for the road as opposed to just a security issue we if we  know which word was crossed out here or some numbers that they didn't do properly you know just the same kind of thinking that come talk to them but i think to me there is a disconnect zones that the drive through is our conditional and the zones that one might put a drive through on are different because there's only two zones that are either permitted or conditional where you would put a drive through but they put grassroots conditional in all districts have to open space and i think that that to me the disconnect unless they're trying to think wait in the future but right now i want to keep it a little closer to making sense and i you know i'm really not in favor of good ideas anyway but i think the argument can be made for pharmacy we had lots of notes and clearly i think the fourth would be the fourth of september that gives the planning commission time as well so let's get to a workshop with the planning commission for the fourth and that that addresses wayne's concerns that we would because he wanted us to hear what we had to say and they were going to argue their way yes it's a tuesday oh good one day before and one hour before good because there's a lot of discussion going on here that we need to deal with kate now we're going to the snow blowing  correct ok it's not listed has alluded to something to that effect when it came to talking about there was no caviar so he is willing previously so we're in a situation where you know a lot of snow that's going down that so windy trance comes thrower and wrecks up the sidewalk work we're having trouble getting the guy to come back and do the sidewalks again but but if if if there's potential for it being a lot more because we have to add on for that second pass and this and this includes that i think  goodish there were one person right talk in the end a lot of time was a nice guy but driveways and things were done first and then we were second by having a person in this in this it was chaotic and we were always not tonight but it was really exciting actually to have this many people here tonight and so many people i was like so impressed that so many people spend so much time