so what we will do then at seven o'clock is we'll open this meeting of the german select board and as always we start with public to be heard and these are items that are not on the agenda is anybody have anything that they would talk about that that in addition on the y berry i was called this just see what i knew about the the village green in the center and the boundaries pertaining to the library of course as you know the library sits on the village gre which is property owned by the town so i'll just so where we are here you can soused little these dash lines of the roads so this right here this shaded area is something that mr johnson drew in as the median house we call that median house and it's the green and then this is the cemetery portion that's down by the intersection of the river farm so it just gives you a little background on kind of where it was so if we skip to  this is the original deed from louis shave been to the town durable and it was in eighteen zero four and this is the meets and bounds description of the green or common and if we go back to if we go back to this other map to the left over here but if we go back to this other busy this description starts at one of these lots at this corner and then it's so many so many feet or so many changes down to the start of the green and then the green is described so sorry i'm not doing very well here so also in that conveyance for the meeting house and green was the cemetery that you saw on the other picture so basically there was a meeting house and it's reputedly was built on the green back in the late eighteenth century probably seven hundred ninety eight so john johnson's not kind of support  that was a that was a place to for you know it's where town meetings happened it was a place for people to congregate it was a church the bridge church that sits now on the edge of the green was built in roughly eighteen thirty five in the town have an interest there as well because they had what was called the town room you know if you ever heard about the town room in roughly right after the church was built to have a and i've worked in this area before and i know other surveyors it worked in this area so by gathering research and then doing research myself i was able to give a rough idea of my opinion just organizer taxation and so forth and you know pretty confident the yellow line is an accurate well absolutely accurate let's get there let's let's let's talk about guys that are that's pretty that would be pretty scary for someone you know  overlaid on the photo so when you see a roof line that's not the roof you know the plane may have been off to the side so you're seeing the photo angles of the actual roof for the actual buildings where the cyan line is  d the same would be the same with these other buildings so don't be alarmed that they'll be alarmed that the you know it may look like it's going through the building and you can see how different the building is from where the rightly rightfully so based on his deed and based on the mortgage survey that he had when he bought the property ok so i really wanted to  expand upon my research and try to satisfy doug that you know i was i was kind of in the ballpark here so i started by  going to his his deed and then we go down the chain of title so the first congregational church of jericho actually did this parcel to callahan so that's one that so if we go back we know where the first congregational church so we keep going all the way back and it was all the same with all this land so what did the church get so here's a green the church got six and a half acres roughly seven acres so there's two pieces to six and a half acre piece and then there is this little little parcel off the north side of the green which would be east of the church now so we know  the dribble businesses have the parsonage law which sits within this six and a half acres but what happened to the rest of it so then so then expand upon my research and and i don't sorry i don't have a chain of title but the haywood's had purchased the remainder of the land so if we go we trace their chain of title back back in back to when they for the same so that is the parsonage law so basically when the church bought this land or sold this land to murdoch they accepted out that one piece of property so that all along the green was established in eighteen zero four so that trumps everything the green is the green is their senior and title and it's how you lay that on the ground so everyone every piece of property goes subdivided around the green came after the town had the property for the green so there they are junior and title so basically they cannot possess or they cannot you have this you have the the green that's dated and no one else is entitle to that part of the dream so that cannot be overlaps and title only by written description so so then we have the challenge of like how do i how do i take that eighteen zero four description and try to lay it on the ground which is a surveyor's jobs to the original description try to lay it on the ground so we look at it we look at some things this is something i happened to have in my file from some prior research and this is the old academy building and the in its fire prior home its second home actually this is in its second home right on the corner coming into town  where it used to say it was ninety degrees to that so actually face the road so if you're coming from barber farm you're coming into the towards the center and you see the green and right there in your laugh the academy  so they turned and i agree some time during that time but what's curious here is you'll see this see the common or the front that's the long line of the green ok and if we go back to my photo when we go down here this is where that academy building's course originally it was ninety degrees to the road over here than it was sanborn insurance and this was this is drawn and one nine hundred fifteen sanborn insurance company insured small hamlets and anywhere where there was enough enough real estate or enough value to ensure surveyors that would go out and actually map buildings and they did a really good job this is all very well mapped relative to itself and you can see right here this is the academy building i believe it was uses of paris first for some time until the new parsonage was built but so you know these buildings are still in existence i could i could take how the relativity of these buildings based on what this is and try to recreate that ok so going back to the green or foam that helps me set the southern boundary of the green figure that closes so we have this this north edge of the earth the south hedge of and that i'm pretty confident with so not only based on that but also based on record research of the parcels us around the green so just like we did on the jericho sidewalk project that i worked on when the state of vermont said no route fifty and it's not a four road right of way we researched propert on each side of the road we got to the original description we found evidence in the rear we brought those deeded descriptions and recreated the road from either side and basically that supported the sixty six foot right of way right before a really big zaki so it's no different here we do the same thing you kind of go about it backwards even though the green a senior title we have to look at the properties the surrounding properties and try to use the evidence the best we can to try and establish you know what we're trying to accomplish what we're trying to find because no corners out there you can't just go out and say oh here's a corner of the green here's another could certainly find so i just want to talk about briefly i'm going to just kind of wrap it all up here but i want to talk about this east line so there was a there was a survey done and of course bla williams many of you maybe you remember lived in this home right here and there was a recent survey there was golf all sorts of surveys around the green and many people haven't addressed the green itself they kind of they kind of look at the road and say ok that's a town road and we go so many feet off of the road and we'll put a pin in the ground here this surveyor actually did a pretty good job at  doing the research all the way back and when you research each of these properties they all reference the green ok so here you've got a nice stone wall in the rear you've got deeded dimensions accurately the dimensions from the you know from the early eighteen hundreds and when you utilize those dimensions you can as i said you can you can come in backwards and recreate the green line so you can see that  this is the east line of the green or where the surveyor believes it to be in a survey is just that it's an opinion it's based on the dated information it's based on your experience and do you perceive the description to be on the ground so these folks recently had a failed septic about three four years ago maybe maybe longer and longer so they're septic system how to be located you can see there's quite a bit of space between the two in the road and their property so they actually had to utilize some of the town's space with their septic but when that happens the town it's like board  quick claims of basically an easement it gives them the right to do that and i think that's kind of important because there's quite a bit of space as you can see between the road and the green expression on this east side so there's a there's a library building and as you can see there's plenty of room to come out to the south where the addition is being propose back at the photo i utilize that survey to help me with this east lie you know so basically by projecting this these lines incidentally one of these one of these  descriptions for a parcel that was within within the entire parcel of this farce was made up of three or four parcels but in one of those descriptions i had an accurate call to the east corner of the green so  and probably their existing system was in the green to begin with possibly but that's all of record with a n r but i think it's i certainly wouldn't  advise given any ease beyond the center of the island but certainly on these outskirts and that's the that's kind of the spirit of the green you know you just like anywhere else you walk out your front door and you're on the on the green you're out on your property  sale but you're on the green but i think people have respected their space and and people have possessed as they own to the road even though they don't you know so i think it was fair i think it was a good call and if i were sitting in your shoes i probably would have done the same thing because here you have a nice old historic house the best fix is to put the septic in the green it's not affecting anyone that's a good thing to do and visually exactly and you would never know that the soils are very good there so it's it's the system is flat and they just mow the lawn look normal this little garage building right here is the church's church uses this little sun single car garage and i believe that it may have been for the parsonage building at one time blooms used so this driveway is fairly steep and it was probably more of a convenient on my part just knowing how these things work i can just see them out there and they're there you know they think they're on their garage and they did this parcel or they they subdivide this parcel out you know that they think is the parsonage but you can't sell own land that you you don't own as i said we go right back to the beginning as it is you have to establish this green and then everything else comes after i find it very curious that the median house the new meeting house the brick median house is almost perfectly parallel with the north lawn of the building itself that's about one or two feet off the front of the  building this building used at this point as you see is probably in the roadway everything clears you know and you know it's not everything clear is it's pretty close here i don't have this building located so you're just looking at a roof line so you can assume that it's going through the building but everything just clears it's like is that it's it's just fit and everything slides into the layers and jessica songwriter no i don't think it's an accident at all i think you know we've lost track of our roots a little bit and people were more concerned about boundaries they they have and they know where they were if you asked any farmer he knew exactly what town law he lived in or she lived and they just knew more about where they came from the history of their land than we do today so so anyway just to wrap this up i think that you know i was asked of can you survey the green or can you can you establish the boundaries of the green well i've i'd love to but it's you know this is my this is my research file this is right here so far and it is your best guess it's well as of your day as of today but  i'm always open to new information there's a you could spend weeks and weeks researching all these properties and that's the proper way it should be done so my suggestion is to take each each case as it comes along  you know we had a problem landowner here that was concerned about how the longer shown to try to do my best to justify how that was done i think that's the the approach to take moving forward for you guys  just trying to give you a little advice and anything certainly any activity that happens in the green you should know you know what's happening what's being proposed but this is at least gives you an idea  approximately what you know what the town halls and i think it's important for you to know but i'm irate to certify and say yes this is exactly where the line is i would after after more extensive wor and i've worked i've worked in this area i've worked on several properties down this road ever get on this property this property the church property over here and continually trying to put information together so the numbers are getting  exactly it's getting tighter and i'm not saying this is off by you know thirty or forty feet i'm saying it's probably within a ten foot sort of range you know five to ten foot sort of range got new information got the ball time that's what you have to do is wave the information and like to look for the foundation this spring i think it was right there all the details point for it to be right there i don't think it had a very long life  so so so do you have any recommendation of what the town should do sure of certified serino with this information without a i think you should just uses information for the best available information we have the time i think i'd be happy to send this to judy bond so she could update the parcel now you know to better gas she's always you know a lot of the stuff is just this is based off of  of this land over steve but you know i think i've in that that that deep cannot be correct because you know the person it was one acre and it was and it was fronted by the green survey your best guess at what you have going on but i just think it should be mindful about you know the extent of the green and certainly if anybody's proposing to do anything close to the line  seventeen years i've had it for thirty five so for at least fifty two years the bloom is what was expected to be valid and if you think about it you know they're kind of matches some of the natural features there thinking that you know wonder what happened there you know during that time frame when the garage you know you can hear continuously trying to find information and you can stumble upon it like almost any time like i was doing a survey and underhill for the cemetery i was trying to find where this piece was out on i looked for weeks never found it one day i'm researching something else and i stumble on the deed you know so you can always there's always new information coming now you know so this is the best we have at the moment so i certainly feel very confident telling you that any addition to the south of the library is is is well within  meets and bounds to that and so yeah it's just continuously i'd love to keep working on it i mean i could i could run up quite a tab proved with this piece they created that law but it actually was not you can't sell what you don't know simply that they created a piece that overlapped on the greenway but as it turns o be yeah it should be an opportunity to get it right but often times these things are just your off you're better off to just buy it as you own you know sell it as you bought it you know and then just keep the chain continuous don't try to get cute and try to modify it in between the only deed that matters is the creation deed of the property so you buy a piece of property i give you a deed well i got it from someone else who got it from someone else who got it from someone else i may describe that property in my deed to you the only description that matters is the way to prove the deed that created that law so the creation of the law and again none of these back forty years and would you still don't you may not own the title company is probably confident enough that no troubles happened within forty years we'll take that gamble and you know what happened before  in the northeast kingdom and about twenty five years ago there was a substantial dispute between two landlord one when it went to one son took over a property and this sort of exercise was undertaken and the entire town was wrong and all you know because of the run along route two when this property broke so this one was ten feet up running through some rear that may be a different story about still think there's quite a bit of room but obviously the way the topography is it's the easiest to go to the south so thank you very much i think you're  really the town's interest and the fifteen feet that may be in front of this home or in the well you never know you know the road i mean walter the certified as a paramedic so he's the one that can do the presentation as he certainly knows the ins and outs of this part of the application process to the state is for the squads involved that want to make an application to go to the towns that they reside and that they serve us in which case we service you know the southern part of jericho so we're here tonight to explain our position and explain what we're you know what we need from from you folks are all we're asking for you folks but when i read  so this is us maybe a ten minute less than ten minute presentation and then i obviously of questions so we can kind of handle those questions at the end so obviously richmond covers a small portion of jericho primarily it's essex rescue which is a paramedic with service a quick a quick explanation regarding her medicine which you probably already understand just from having the history w most e m s squads in the state of vermont are not at the paramedic level so i only the minority are an inch and county we've only had paramedics for about three years of all of that shit in county rescue squads only difficult to reach a lot of time this gives me a lot of times regard with things such as finances or call volume or the willingness of the full time staff to take that on  so an e m t has about one hundred twenty hours of training it doesn't seem like a lot because it's not a lot it's really the basics of emergency mergence the medical care and they are an advanced e m t has an additional hundred fifty hours roughly and a paramedic has upwards of two thousand hours plus a significant amount of clinical rotations that are better done in the hospital so my point in explaining this is that you know when you have a paramedic there are more career oriented folks so for a volunteer the e m t level the advanced e m t level is it is achievable the paramedic level when you already have a full time job in the community is not really reasonable cost wise and time wise so we're we're looking at at paramedic one of the benefits of paramedics and as drawing in more individuals who are more career oriented for our staff and also for our volunteers as well and that kind of brings us to some of the advantages so in kind of moving on more to the recruitment and retention  you know folks my position just for for for an example as a training officer has seen roughly five or six individuals in the past seventy years and mostly because these are you know professional college age individuals who are using the position as a stepping stone to move on to medical school to move on the p a school because again that advanced level is not seen as a career it's more of a stepping stone and that's different with paramedics and paramedics and it is it's a career based on that education component and the amount of of  financial investment in the education so we're going to get folks that are going to stick around for a longer which is better for our bottom line and that's that staff that's also volunteers so what you were mentioning earlier is that we have several individuals who we have one one individual who's a volunteer who was just hired to essex rescue she's been a volunteer at richmond since she was sixteen and she's going to continue volunteering in richmond because she is close to the community right so she works full time somewhere else outside of the community but she's going to continue to volunteer their time at richmond at the paramedic level hopefully she is a paraplegic she's a paramedic she works on e same intention they're going to be entering paramedics will shortly and they have not ruled out returning to the area working somewhere but also volunteering in their community which what what what is their home home community  and so that's a benefit for us because we're getting these individuals who still have that volunteer spirit who have the desire to help out their community but they have the paramedic level licensure and and we can use that to our advantage and for their advantage other advantages of paramedics and we have a higher level of assessment obviously with that and with the increase in education there is quite a higher level of assessment different cardiac rhythm is can be interpreted and it interventions can be given based on those which is not something that is able to be done at the advanced e m t level and there's a plethora of additional medications the most significant of which is pain and nausea control for traumatic injury and of course you know that six is able to provide that currently and so there's also some minor surgical procedures that are that can be done in an emergency settings as well what surgical surgical airways if  of cardiac rhythms out because they don't in themselves look terribly different but one is life threatening and one is not so and this is you know something that an advanced e m c an e m t isn't isn't able to t t this is or even diagnose this is something that only a paramedic can diagnose so a couple of examples of why a paramedic would be beneficial obviously we have all in valley scary in our in our area in these were two injuries that happened last winter a bull in valley the bottom is a spinal fracture so there's this young man and you can you can see i mean it's going to hard to kinds of traumatic injuries such as this femur fracture that are extremely painful and i don't know if you've ever if you've driven down route two recently but it's not the most pleasant road at least going  you know the ability to to give pain meds in this instance is not going to save a life it's certainly going to make this this instance a lot less traumatic for the individual player we have a number of traumatic accidents on the interstate geographically along similar to essex we've got some pretty long transport times a few months ago we had a critical patient out on the edge of huntington that was about fifty five minutes to the hospital with their lights and sirens obviously in that in that instance you can see the benefit for having that higher level of education and intervention when it's when you're in burlington in your five minutes from the hospital it doesn't become as important although it still is but you know you have that a probably what it's like we're most concerned about and the town we're not asking for any increase in funding from the towns for many of the times we've why don't you go why not where you can if you want i mean if you're feeling generous  sad financial shape but over the last few years we've been able to troll our expenses get things under control change or accounting you know we're we pinch every pangle screams and so and plus when we switched to the new protocols  that what we have we don't have will taxes because we look commercial base which makes it even more important to pinch the dollars and keep the expenditures down but time and time again the citizenry has said public safety is what we're willing to pay for public safety well i mean they're tough we've got to prove that we're getting there was spending money for nothing right which is why we but we were tough on them but your budgets right now because there wasn't much never and those those rates are set by medicare medicaid they're not something that we can pass to go and change the right they have i mean there's levels there's there's deal last for basic life support there's a lot less one  two and just because i'm a paramedic and i provide care to a patient doesn't mean we get a bill at the highest level it has to be significant interventions there's a there's a bunch of crate in order to to build up that high level so even the fact that we have paramedics doesn't mean we're going to be billing at that level it's only what we provide well it makes it possible and it's causes a joint command breaking off and it's a difference of maybe like two hundred s it's a minority of them and you understand you have a sympathetic audience here we have to make your case so we're we're accomplishing this within our existing staff and volunteer framework you mentioned as the proposal point so we initially plan to cover roughly thirty three percent of our call i will be covered at the paramedic level for reference say michael's rescue which is the last service to become  paramedic level their initial ratio percentage was like twenty seven percent i think so thirty three percent is you know well within acceptable limits for the coverage and we're only going to go up from there we ha plans to transition our one of our other full time staff members when he retires in the next couple years to another two apparent position so that we will bump us up to roughly fifty percent of our calling so it's a good number of  percentage and as as rich mentioned we were able to do a special fundraiser on the switchbacks so we don't switch to my screens there for our one time equipment upgrades and with the  recent us protocol change a lot of the paramedic level interventions were moved to the advanced e m t level well a lot of the higher cost items such as some airway stuff and other things so we already have those so we don't need to buy them down to the start of the program and we've built in the increase for paramedics and it's in the next couple of years into the fiscal plan so as rich mentioned will there be increases or requests for increases in the future potentially probably but it's not going to be from perry madison it's going to be from recruitment and retention issues that we may or may not have from medicare reimbursements to health care climate so if you if you could go through there i mean it always it's always a gamble and so our plan we'd love to go live january of two thousand and sixteen we've been working on this for about a year now the whole our whole implementation plan we need to get permission from permission but support questions and learn more about what her medicine involves giving to us will be increased to the level of service richmond rescue currently provides store community and that you are not in need of additional financial assistance to cover the start up costs of the program we would like to offer dual time line when the oh yeah yeah we're i mean this is of the last step and submitting our proposals you want that letter if you want to sign it now if you have no objection that's fine if you want to think about it and vote on it later on that's fine as well i mean obviously the finances are in place we have the list of cooking ready to ready to click send once we have approval from for money amounts you know we're hoping to submit our our application to chip in county been you know just you know some controversy over sure how that should be cut up and a non trivial part of it was that essex could provide this sure and you could which meant that whichever part  you wasn't getting served right and if you're giving it that from our perspective erases an apparent disparity in the service our people are good and you know there was a recently that we had at the high school and you know essex had all three of their trucks yeah out and we you know we were able to respond to that i think there's a majority of the town is so if we were going to beat if you're going to race essex i'm you know we would beat them to the scene in a lot of locations and i think really what it comes down to is what is what's best for we need to do what's best for the the between you and essex sure you know right then you know i think in back in the years when the with the fiscal responsibility was not as to the level of his as it is today there was also a lot more contention i think between essex and richmond rescues yes and i think that that doesn't exist as much today i mean we're we have shared employee share employees but we have volunteers working the local races are working on an essex and back and forth so you know there's a and we've we've kind of developed an alliance with our c p r education so we're you know we're actively referring folks over to essex and essex is actively referring folks over to richmond and i out information so i'll continue to work on that as time goes by a bit it's really important that we get this adopted in by may first to really help you get in trouble right so