meeting we had some discussion about housing and regulation and what the city council was talking about so i'm wanted to just give you a brief update on the last council meeting from this past monday and where things are going and how the planning commission is going to get one again or at least the direction that we feel that we're the council has kind of given us not a formal action but won't even be discussed so what we're going to be doing from a staff level anyway at this point is working with the housing commission to to to develop a kind of a replacement housing ordinance that has some inclusionary housing characteristics to it as well there will still be working with them in the next couple of meetings to develop that that will give the planning commission time to work through the rest of the draft plan so we can focus on that work that needs to be done here also we're going to be doing a series of  basically housing cities in the fall so that we can get some some experts in the room and bring the planning commission they want to housing commission and anybody in the community quite frankly can come together and hear about the different topics and we're going to be focusing in primarily on inclusionary zoning replacement ordinances housing trust funds those types of things so that it's we're not opening up a discussion of hey do we need affordable housing regulations or anything to do with formal housing it's more of this is the direction you want to go with a fordable housing and this is what it's going to mean to you as a community member as a citizen and as a as a plenty commission member housing commission how are the case might be so that'll be the opportunity for us to to get some of that education engagement with the other commissions of the other entities through this process and then i believe the schedule that we're looking at is having a draft of replacing ordinance inclusionary zoning how are we craft that to the planning commission i think october november timeframe after we're after we get the draft of the master plan done so that we're not overlapping network so that's pretty much where we're going with the housing will because i think we're keeping the master plan of a higher level we can just generally talk about the need for affordable housing without identifying specific programs or directions we need to go in and so that we should be covered in that regard  that they can review the schedule and after monday night we can definitely share because that's what we'll go for the new council for their recommendation of our schedule and that's the only update i want to provide i'm actually just going to turn to regina i think this is a continuation we dabbled in this with the last meeting so you know we regina's reorganized and added some language based on our discussion so we didn't take it away not in the sense of certain where they are today and he suggested that i look at a number of the videos they have on their own website and if there's anybody that's particularly interesting to get back to him and he'll let me know how to connect with them so we can get an actual quote for the plan so i have not had a chance to look at those videos yet but i certainly will and it sounds like that be pretty cool the other thing i talked to english learning side of things versus not english learners and that that's very far from their perspective but it makes sense that it's difficult to describe it that way the point that he made which i think might be helpful for us to include in the play is that it's much more about if they can the folks that actually stay in the school system like the number of years has been used it's also  why are they moving and if they could be about housing availability he could be about that section of the schools it could be a lot of things but it just seems like a pattern that i think also there's some way to hide away all the great stuff that they are dealing i'm personally don't know what those things are that someone came into my studio week or so ago and said something about all the great was like saying how the how the school district really has a lot of challenges you still does a lot of really innovative cool stuff so there's some way to highlight that in the play i mean you were saying you were going to put in little like stories of what people have done after to but i think going with that me the quotes from parents with current kids in this town because they at least for me not having kids at our school aged eight i don't it's like a big unknown but like what's always given me reassurance in talking to people who actually have kids in the school and they have really positive things to say about it and i think you know and like personal story approach may be more effective to you and maybe will communicate some of those innovative things and things that are going on i think most take quite a bit of effort to describe that to a normal person in terms of why it's interesting to have made it so hopefully so definitely take a look at this and shot it and see if it's  it's doing what you want but all that will do some more research and add out more for the next time you see that the one other piece of data that was still missing from your draft plan is the number of languages i did meet i know with some we had brought up last time expanding the point i don't remember what the resolution was honest but i wanted to make mention of the private educational institution the other thing while we're on the goals that i wanted to show folks and our printers just like really really running out of juice at the moment so this is a little bit difficult to see but  have here is that our tenant walking distances has specifically focused on landry park richards park and west allen street park which is a you know a small little car but you could even have a come out of memorial park and for the hear once you look at it is that we could shift to these circles to other parts that might be the more appropriate park to focus in on but i think no matter where we focus the circle the majority of the city  so i don't know given that information i don't i don't know if you folks when you'd like to do it that poll we can be mor you could help and then maybe it's just having those circles on there just as my horse that idea yeah right just see where we are achieving this and it's an important aspect to the community that's what makes  i was actually i do i want to go back the other day from one of these residents in neighborhoods and there's like a really logical space to access there but it was like can completely treacherous i mean i did i did it with my two year old and i was partially like there is a you can at least easily see if that's right not not right next to a road or roads that are disconnected by sight other physical thing but that's likely the most that we will be able to write well or francis to be careful because it's specific yeah so we try to keep i try to kind of bring them up and put in some general goals that i think cover most of what they're what they're trying to do then they give us another document that's really it's called the story and it's written very story like almost like a letter to the editor and i don't know that the kuwait's that it's in it is not that it's inappropriate in any way but it's just there and in the interest of time what i can do now that we're a service tiny bit closer version of the draft i can look back to the story and see if there's anything else to kind of pull  out and if i don't see the thing i'm probably just going to leave it but if folks take a look and see if you want to do something else  i just didn't include number seven from this because it's not necessarily like a plan that you would need to include but the others are there then you know while we're on the goals we might as well start there so what i've been doing a whole section is making sure that the asks that you receive from the other commissions are kind of incorporated i specify possible so you'll see eight i think this last year maybe it's one in this last year the rental registry survey went out with additional questions that asked much more terms of what are your actual rents and all that kind from asian and so that's been well documented in all of that work so some of this i'm just unclear on whether we're going to the numbers based on that survey or coming from the actual reds are out there is that it doesn't make any sense like you can really we can just look at people income in the city and extrapolate what they might be able to afford based on thirty percent of spending thirty percent of their income on housing and the other way we can look at it is what the actual rates are in the city and how many  homeowner disparity in income and the one thing about that point that i just i'm curious about is i feel like we're becoming a more i'm not sure our income is exactly calculated back i think we're becoming a more to get to a complicated thing too like if you take do you do you take your postdocs like do you take out the residence you get they give you the a lot of like the training positions that are very low paid and that there's a huge and you know increase impactors a number of years right at what point do you i don't know but we definitely have like the location to get a lot of people in those kinds of situation are just attractive destination to young professionals and people right out of school there might be an entry level position and earning low wages but i mean i think they can look at the i think  homo more that and so that it's clear what's going on what we're saying and describe it much more fully than just the blanket statement which doesn't have a whole lot of information like that all so i mean there is behind it so low right now that you know i can save the realtor people come to me and feel like i'm interested in living in when you ski and they can't buy a new city because there's just so you option there were entirely this summer where they're with us single family home a single just a question and maybe because i'm just a detail oriented person and when i guess when i read some of these goals sometimes they're just so high arching that underside it's not really telling you much you know what i mean and it's kind of just like i want  specific neighborhoods so i'm not sure you really want to show what neighborhood has highest poverty or anything like that but i guess like it you're sure to show it here but i guess do we want to start talking about what neighborhoods are and where somebody so see it's so like what mike was just talking about that's what you define as your neighborhood but your neighbor money to fight is a much broader area where you're going to be have or a much more narrow area so i think it's it's such a subjective thing that flippantly like kind of top down here's where we're going to be and kind of thing not that i'm suggesting that you that's what is going on here but they're probably for different reasons like if either city council just tricks or something or like there's sing with people where they want to be and what they want when we live lump all of when you ski to get there in terms of our brand and other people you know some it's just it's more it's trickier so i'm a big advocate i don't know why should i think of  chicago which i'm sure has a history of the related to later the political divisions in the city or something but the city has put up like last in every single neighborhood you're like if you're confused about where you are you just look up and it's like you're in water you're meeting which will be september thirteenth and then we will begin the review demographics and background information so we're starting to get through i believe that's the housing is the last main section before we we definitely after the next version when it starts to be that when the introduction which is the last the piece of it that we can definitely start to share because right now just with each of the pieces it seems like where all over the place event is tentatively scheduled for the thirtieth of october what we're talking about and what we have talked about the least internally is trying tygart and with the with the when you see how we mean on the twenty seventh of october to have goals so we have a sense of under this section these are the goals that we're talking about and under this section these are the goals we're talking about to give so it's not just kind of a big u s type of thing here and it might be interesting to take a few images of like