think that we can actually be specific on the top value for sugar or the sugar amount is eight hundred thirty eight dollars and the top amount for the national is two hundred  yeah kind of sped read through but it seemed that was the kind of status in each of the areas that were investigating so that when we got a report out with our chart of amount of time that was the motion giving staff or maybe even the chair of the authority to make technical or not substantive or grammatical changes in other words you're agreeing to the substance but if anyone has done you know if you know the results without a information other at this point oh we really a couple of things are we need to start accomplished we're still waiting for the questionnaire to be turned in from public works we are waiting to see i to review our findings to see if they are congruity with what she believes are actually happening make sure there is no big surprises there that we might be missing and some lives are really the three bullet points that we have to do that we hope to accomplish before the next meeting and good night and ultimately identified really s i keep calling it the low hanging fruit because you know where some areas that it's just you know some basic academic changes in their behavior for equipment to are so on and so forth changing culture on ways to support effective if you're going to have a really robust safety program and build a safety culture having of the behavior of a safety as part of that it is considered a best practice and then the second one is really to build that cohesiveness between management and the online team members on you know what were the safety what the safety expectations are for the department what the grounds are  hulu we're looking to evaluate applying our the behavior based safety programs going around bus safety culture and then what what's the the dad out there want to say if you do these things what are you what what benefit do you get and then how would that benefit potentially translate to the worker loss claims that the counties recording on an annual basis have room for improvement there so not only the human side first but then the the monetary side of the loss so unsetting programs that are perpetuating how does mally county  there for a couple more years but when we were doing our our math we took that out i mean we we recognized in that clip it was an extraordinary circumstance young but a lot of it i mean takes they have several different groups of clients that they work with and some have very very high loss to begin with and of course they know they have like three cases they had those that had if you could have incredibly frequent amount of thousand dollar claims could it or you could have very few claim in the million dollar plus range that are the factor the closer that are what's your exposure so if you're if you're in an office environment your exposure to being run over by a mack truck on the job is probably pretty low because mack truck still run through the office and that's sort of an extreme example but you know the exposure so the maid said that focused on the you know those departments that have the most claim to have the most exposure and they're the ones that we contacted so environmental summary point they talk about health better safety behaviors produce better overall behaviors and then also the if you've got an organization that has a lot of those small incidents you know if that is a leading indicator that your exposure chances of something really bad happening are increased because everybody's just not not concerned with how they do things and t is the antithesis of your analogy of a mack truck that's not going to less likely to be severe but it could be more free happening with greater frequency and the idea here is from the behavior based gets to change the behavior of the organization so it's not that the fortunately the all systems like that can be abused used to place to shift blame from management to the lineup and that's not what best practices behavior they say he's about it's about the shared responsibility and changing you to be the behavior or the root causes or the design element so all those are components of best practices private industry score better report between average municipality public or private water companies and their loss rates average versus the worst performers versus the best you know so that's so there are there are there are gaps on part of got something of a piece of pie that has to be divvied out amongst you know all of these areas and if you've got a lot of claims that's less than the city will to get out into the community so it's it is a little apples and oranges they catch so that's that's that's on everybody's radar screen but then they also manage these so they can close them out as quickly as possible but again that's after the accidents happen well so that's a look at so what can you do  happens a lot so you know the water was not you know for sure but an asteroid fall from the sky yeah absolutely and you're on the clock and you know that could happen quite to that that's not and also the service records and the whoever's in charge of the shop or the equipment that they sure that the inspections are done regulars or the service maintenance records on that particular  and pause as well versus i don't care to get it done and that's where you get that there's always in all organizations there is tension between banishment office supervisors  and that's again takes and then back to the ramp up in the big thing in touching on closing our report will be just building a culture and it's not a you know it's not a do a once in you're done it's a continuous process and it takes commitment from from above you know driving constantly you know it's not something that just happens you can't a lot of companies make a mistake and they hire the consultant they get all the shiny safety manuals and that goes on the i think that no matter what it's going to be helpful to all the county employees to have somebody to go look at because i don't think there's anybody working for the county who wants to get hurt here so actually everybody  hope for them to follow up on to get a call yesterday back from one of his assistants rooms office and so we're in process of putting up together until until we can find out you know what direction they're really moving that can't be controlled benchley probably will go up again but one of the things that the county of this not have is to have a benchmark to measure work were all this is and what areas that being geothermal you know we males and they said oh we're looking at is what is good the cost that can help generate twenty percent cost savings right now on what's being spent on what's being used in energy wise within the county  energy pat on that and he has you know some initiatives that are in there to see you know what are they working on so that you can see what is being done and how much is can be saved and this is not just look at large grids analysis ok here's our peak time here's where we run into trouble and if we can bridge that for four hours already said they're committed because i mean you know i mean if you're going to put down you know twenty percent costs i mean updating and values because they see them go down as well as i know and so it works not necessarily or increased revenue options for them you know my thinking is  would be good to have it be accurate but it's not really something that they say it's a great you know seriously important thing to do something that might be more helpful would be to be able to be very found asking them you know would it be like for example to get ever cultural water you must provide your schedule af and your ged forty five in order to verify that you are actually you know don't have the same system or law in place for that and the cultural from pretty tax they are in the middle of a starting to roll out a project to validate the all the dedicated propert there's five or six hundred dedicated companies so they are sent out a hundred or so far to their sales people you know what are you really doing and they will get to everybody else but it may be that there's an opportunity there to change the law so that if you're if you want to add property tax or that you're actually in the show that you're doing concurrently the law says that agriculture for your home use is not does not qualify for a better dancer so that's where they have a lot of difficulty because some people are you know it's hard for them to show this is commercial or not commercial  that whereas from a farmer perspective it is a had you know whether you're eating it or you're selling it to somebody else it's ad but the way the county has structured the law  if you used that acre of that for your home use that acre should not be getting that property tax free so there's a you know that's the vision there so and then if you are selling an app and you're actually a commercial as part of that agriculture working group we met with some of these consultants and here they're looking at the entire law and they are going to have a report oh yes i'm told and i think it may i mean i think what we to say but the values are different area and how they you know there's two sides of them one is the value this espaliered here other is the tax rate that the county coun water real property tax and sheol that you have named you should really look to right now i mean i found out that they don't the real property doesn't have access to whether or not you are getting water rates or even if you have water on paula's on vacation still he will be back i think this weekend i communicated with her email so we really i don't have anything to report and was waiting for paula to get back from vacation see if we can determine you know what might the reasons be that these positions are vacant and so because that seems to be one of the big reasons that there is so much overtime compensation is because  stand but until paul gets back we really haven't been able to move forward with setting up having shows set up appointment with the h r department so that's really  who is and is there a dialogue if there is a difference in and also how they create the jobs because you know this is something like kind of overheard that know there are qualif as you get into the position there are steps that you know you get to get ready but if someone is like wait qualified they still have to come in the increase of a position you know i think that's kind of breaking the drive you want to serious some comments that were mere that will last me about topics all what i do is kind of remember that some of those topics had been discussed so i went through some of the old reports and submitted to candidate and it could be oh oh whatever it's for twine to think outside the box to create a new position being goes you know the elderly twenty years ago this was the position