chambers at the normal time having never been anything but we're back before we get going we do have some community announcements first off open meeting law training there's a training session on boards commissions and committees on july seventeenth which is this week twenty tomorrow night two thousand eight hundred seven o'clock at the general middle school auditorium members of dominance boards committees and commissions have been invited to attend a training session and this is to update everybody on changes to the open meeting that all of our committees boards and commissions operate properly here on any of those boards or current committees or commissions strongly urged to return tend to concord ave will be closed to traffic all traffic between pleasant and mill streets except local traffic or emerge vehicles on july eighteenth between the hours of nine am and three p monday july twenty third six till seven thirty pm is free at low general hospital the saints campus first floor conference room one hospital dr in lol with joy jonathan drake and d m s f a c e p and a whole bunch of other things i'm not going to read registration is required at eight seven seven g h well eight seven seven five four four nine three five five sponsored by circle health and wellness in the express police and lol general hospital and our community of physicians anybody else have any other announcements to make that you know next before we get going on the substantive items would be comments from town residents anybody has any comments delivery to all the dealings in town they ended july eleventh which was last wednesday eighteen thousand eight hundred forty two carts were delivered incredible needless to say there was the crews that were out there delivering the cards they were exposed to probably the most extreme weather that we've had in a while and what seven or eight days of ninety plus degrees and it was hot and then the week before that they had two days would turn chill down for so we did have some delays we we expected to weeks and they ended up finishing in two and a half which all being it was a tremendous suffering they did a great job and we are now in the process of working with the residents are the that filled out the application for a smaller container mary beth and i have received nine marybeth kalman recycling corner we received ninety two applications for the smaller barrel and we are scheduling visits and that's ongoing we've done about thirty eight to date hoping to get that done by the end of the month if i may what's the purpose of the visit to evaluate that is to assess exactly the need some of them are not just that they can't move the barrels and so they don't have a place for the barrel or they have you know they feel that they have a parking issue whatever yeah most of them are for physical condition but we have had one because of  space issues so is it both barrels is it because the recycling is ninety six is it both barrels that they can get because you so some people fill it out thinking that they have to swap for everything smaller  when they realize that they can have a smaller recycling but keep the trash that they get so you can get to small it's a small recycling in a small truck correct or you can have a small irregular sixty four gallon trash and g document everything is documented in there and they were trying to be fair and objective and treat everybody the same and as i told the board before this program even started the set of carts was delivered to the dwelling so ten years from now the sixty four gallon trash ninety six container if it was swapped out during the being as program and whoever ford ever reason moved out left town that will be then reset back to the sixty four ninety six that's the reason why we have the documentation of that point and that's going to be an ongoing process are we dealing with every every year  that being said we have these sixty four gallon container for trash which is now a capacity limit we have sold over two thousand overflow bags to date bags being sold at d reason for the sleeves of five is that it's a nice neat little roll and they get it but yet so far today two thousand or four bags so that sounds like a lot but i guess if i if two thousand has to be bought and sleeves of five it's really was underwhelming like how many people but as time goes on people realize more and more and as you know everything is just everything's a change right now so people are still trying to figure out we're still trying to figure out with how to streamline with waste management my daughter was a smoothing the move we will lie we will have a great service i don't know if anyone has seen the streets on our collection day it's orderly nice neat row of cards  we have a variety of pictures that we've taken and we're put them online shortly it definitely cleans up the town i've implemented this program before in town in do it that way three but i do caution that i've heard that it's has stayed in the container because it got stuck so they force then anyway overall the streamlining this and getting acclimated to the new system and making adjustments daily and at the end we're going to have a i'm positive i have a successful program i'll give you another update probably before the school year starts i put some questions to you that people have been putting to me absolutely of all the e mails i get trash is probably the number one subject matter i don't know why i don't know everybody one is the location of the cards and some of the most of these are just sort of informational because the reason we were told to where they leave the car is where you're supposed to put the card out and they've been putting them in people's driveways they've been putting them under tree bill ims and so people like i put it under the tree limb it doesn't seem right  most people common sense wise are not putting them into the tree limb but some people are because they were told to put it where it was left that is correct when we advertise us we said to pay attention to where the place some of the carcass i would be where you were be expected to put the trash every collection day that for some reason did not work out in the beginning and i do not know the reason why and i apologize to anyone that was confused or thought that they were supposed to put their barrel at the end of their lawn on the other side sidewalk it was that's just not it didn't work out the way it should of they did we did straighten it out with the  deliver delivery company and again it was just a bad situation right there some people complain about they have wires that right in front of the house that are fairly low and they said when they solve a truck pick it up that it got very close to almost taken the wire out when they lifted up the car and there really wasn't any where to put it because the wire ran the whole length of the front of there so everything and situations like that please call d p w we tried to be proactive in go around town  e week or so before the collection my sense or i found probably half a dozen or more that were serious concerns and that was a phone call to belmont light if anyone thinks that they have a low hanging wire they see the wires getting hit by the barrel please call the p glass what to do about the glass because people at the top of the recycle bin has all the things that go into the glass as conspicuously absent it's  recycling as a cost right now the state of massachusetts still has a ban i don't from a landfill and incineration the the former contractor we had casell a they asked to say for a waiver to throw weight class for court i believe this quarter or possibly six months i know they asked for a waiver to throw away trash i'm not sure if it was for three months or for six months class is a problem  and you know just right right now i don't i don't want to tell anyone to do anything that they're redoing if you want to recycle please recycle it it's there to be recycled it's not hard it's not a stretch of the imagination to do a google search and look for to sell a waste waiver for glass in the state massachusetts they the state massachusetts allowed a waiver for glass to be thrown away as trash there and i've said it to this board for years there has just been no market for glass and it's th we do do we do have those cardboard deliver drop offs if you can stockpile it some people just cannot do it give give us a call and we can we can talk to it depends on the situation i don't want to give someone an extra barrel because i means it's going to mark down the system but we can talk to have them give us a call we will work with them and what about some people had said that they didn't get the recycling wasn't the reason the trash wasn't picked up in the carts the first week maybe that was just a glitch for the first go around there's more of that than then  the because the carts were not delivered in the timely fashion that the plan that was in place people had their trash in their old container and then they got the new container and didn't want to make th transfer you know that is trash the transfer there it filled old trash barrel to put it into their new trash barrel because that was what the hollow was going to pick up because they did receive their new container we  we advertised that as soon as you get a new barrel use it immediately because you're trying you know trash will be collected automated when you do receive new containers some people had filled trash and they got their card deliver the day before so that changed the town's going to be a little things here and there that that's why i've been telling people that it's not unexpected in the nature of the huge change that there will be hiccups and they'll get resolved by graham you know which i think to expect perfection out this transition is probably asking why did you guys have any other things that you've heard other than what i've been at every couple things to maybe situations it's rare which residence can even pull out what's a small barrel thirty two gallon what's could what's the remedy with that i know of one and we worked with her yeah and you did so but it can you just put overflow bag is that a don't take this is a knock on the i think you guys have done a great job of a very very challenging transition that was kind of foisted upon the down by market forces so i think that it's gone as smoothly as something like this is going to go do this thank you for and you've been very fields to remove the barrels and to put up signage for carrying carry out park my staff in my santoro can vote for he can this has his own things to say about it we all feel that has been a success in the fact that there's less trash that is accumulating in the parks yes we have our strugglers we have they look disgusting and it's embarrassing so we have had some issues with the poor parties and i know that the health department tonight at their meeting had a discussion about it home we didn't either and it's i just did a loss of words as to it's the thought process that someone has in its just you know it's disrespectful to the rest of the community especially the kids that spring you soccer league is in session they would have two or three quarter parties for their saturday you know their practices or no we think every once games are over with no no they would leave in their unlocked is the whole studio season yes some they do get so they have flushed down service absolutely and that's on them they they run them they deal with them and so we part as part of their hermann now they need to lock the container when n revamping of when you get an off leash permit and your dog gets assessor your pet animal gets assessed then there's an education process and then we need to have a we need to revamp the whole process and streamline it and have people have more ownership of you know the proper this this development opportunity out of town people come in if you identify someone out of town they need to be keeping a sign post say please do not dispose of your dog i do think the pilot program is working though the carrying carrier for the unsightly barrels and dumping ground that the barrel brought absolutely that's that's gone we haven't had any of those it's a stunt but i'm still seeing strikers i'm still seeing trash from time to time being left right and sometimes it's dog waste bag sometimes it's the cops sometimes it's who knows a bunch of kids that just you know i'm glad you brought that up because a how do we inform how do we drive in force men because it's not getting through to everybody  so i've had conversations superintendent of school at the joyce park area and they have recess literally right alongside the jury's park and even though they're not supposed to have sex  recess some students do and the barrels or whatever the gets left behind goldfish gets smashed on the ground or whatever and recess ends and they go away and the like when blown litter basically there's no one forcing on a spec so it's holistic it's that we're trying to get everybody to have you know play a part in cleaning these parks up aside from having a police officer at every park twenty four hours a day i don't know what else we can do disney you know this trash really is thirty feet and they have someone picking up every piece of litter that falls on the ground instantly what do you do people are just you know rude and disrespectful and putting cameras in certain areas or other things that would somehow create deterrence i just it's it does seem like a shame because i know we're trying to do the right thing and i know it's human nature and that's the reality of it but it is also unfortunate they're missing the intrusive to me i mean it's something they probably are players that are not that are in residence at a literary there's this we just need to be patient and the two things that we would love to do is like the enforcement and more manpower but you know we were working with what we have and we're trying what we can we do something i don't want me to i mean you know the old the old sort of advertisement where the indian was it was pretty people through trash barrels out there we had something as item of that window think we all sort of learn that you know we're taught that these are something we do in bellamy or center the talk about you know the need to keep our parks clean you know that we all own this responsibility and i mean i'm just suggesting ways that we can sort of broaden the  message it's a it's another avenue that we can work answer i mean it's just like the youth groups working with them and having you know this is the soccer fields cleaner than when you showed up you know when you leave the soccer fields clear than when you showed up type thing so we went to bed and mostly for damage concrete and asphalt sidewalks from the tree damage that we've had in the last couple years and we had tallied up estimates based on prior year contracts what three hundred thousand dollars worth of work would look like  can get some more work out of that down the road if when it started and i find other things that we thought there were the tree damage and stuff so it's actually a really good thing to work with sacco before  bid price up seven percent in sixteen up twenty six percent one thousand up eight percent so what's the jump and i mean it's not related to us in particular eyes and it's a commodity you know that's it's i don't know what ingredient would've had that jump i know for hundred projected three hundred thousand dollars worth of side work repair what do we do with the one hundred seventy three or this has been this is an appropriate amount so we we can never do a change or up to twenty percent but what we have here is what was bid on so anything higher than that we would have to go out the bit free cash replenishment well the only thing i would say and that of course i understand that but but you know this endless list of need to know what repairs six hundred thousand dollars worth of work in effect i know lelie percent loss and we can go twenty percent above you know the point is i know we have got to begin the point to make is that if we're getting potentially three hundred thousand under the amount of what else and in one that was significantly higher right i think that's how this yes look here looking at this point is that since we had an appropriation we can't do anything with that other than that it just stay in the inflow into free cash at the end of the budget's year could we go to bid again within the current year and yes spin the amount of side work repair that we absolutely deploy on absolute great thanks to the motion of the counter move that we approve the contract with thank you mike as well is there a body here for the first church barbecue meet and greet license permit it seems like that should be a lot of fun so what we'll do is we're going to just skip real quick since the ch director irish jen pond she sent us a hundred dollar donation to go to the care of graham so at this point i would ask the board to accept that donation avi up of the department rim by name not by create a precedent here about having off cycle community preservation act requests however it's taken twenty five years to get to this point you know it seems to be on a bit of a fast track and i don't want to jeopardize the community path over a timing  issue and it's rare to have a project that encompasses the entire town like this and has such a large effect and could levy a traffic and promote health and as alleviate safety concerns of kids crossing the railroad tracks by the high school and so there's a lot a lot going on here but i think things are going very well with the you know the town submitted their the forms that they need to get mass start to sort of bless this as a project and put it on mascots a list of projects that is on its way to becoming a project on the transportation improvement program which is the funded list of projects that are moving and so that they they have the project review review committee meeting i believe on the twentieth of june which i understand what well and the project review committee meeting you need to hear i think things went well there and the real meeting is the this thursday so if that's the meeting with they will vote hopefully to does it make this is a project that they're going to collaborate with us on to move forward i would i would i think it's great to take this next step and i'm really excited that you guys are doing it i think it's exactly we need to do it well as soon as it is we get through this next hurdle i think we should be convening another meeting with the with the path committee and and everybody else involved to it and mascot to sort of start feeling our way forward is just how to present this next to the four for the process i mean i think it may turn out that they feel that the best way to get this funded is to have one a and one b moving forward together so it might be that you are going back to the to the well for the rest of the design process but i think it's very legitimate to get this one they started and you know see how it's going to fit together with the high school development and then you can resolve you know the one day thing talk over the past ought to have a nice impact to see really impact on the hook you appreciate your being here already thank you for having to see absolutely i mean i want to get to the vote just to be clear before we get into it is the vote tonight is to submit an application to the community preservation committee for design funds for the alexander avenue underpass period phase one yes voted or anything on any of that just lying here tonight just to make sure that whatever is done is done with the understanding that we need to leave vote on what happens school property it's a little for the for support of morsi we fast track this because well first of all it's important to move forward with the pat secondarily it's also a traffic mitigation issue to have then and as you know we believe we understand that to be the case although it's a component of the path that you suggest we move forward this project the foreman it's great to hear that you know it's it's you know the state perspective it's being looked at in a favorable way so we need to allocate design cost to it well the issue of having is that is that this came up very quickly through the efforts of our state delegation here that suddenly like oh we have a funding you have to spell this thing by june whatever and then it's july whatever and we were not expecting it we bang bang bang bang bang like that so we thought we could go to the c p c on a regular normal with the school committee is on this show me where they hold off in their posts so since the census is thing going and it's been going in a rapid pace i have been reaching out to different areas stakeholders so like the belmont to disinform i reached out to them right they're going to be providing a letter of support to the c b c because they only end along the trail right similarly school committee sending lead to the school community both has been tenant today that the reason for sending that letter was to get similar support letters just for the please accept an off which is getting to this project review stage but from then it could take you know could take a couple years so it does me and during that time there's all the time in the world for people to say yes no over here or six inches to the side all of that conversation will happen so that nobody should feel like you know something the deal is done here this is just this is just getting on the radar for consideration and in a formal way at the state level that's a good thing and then the town can complete there's a number of issues that are still open for example that is the path itself the bike path itself on the south side or the north side there you know there are stakeholder questions on both sides and so there's plenty of issues that need to be resolved and those need to be resolved in a full conversation with the school well i just would echo what senator brown burger said i mean it's encouraging that developments in the state level to get on the tip transportation so it's encouraging and you know it's tough to get design money as we've talked about in previous meetings from the state that's more on don't come up with design money and i think we may be able to get a little bit to design money through through different means  helpful to have you know the scoop i think it's a port as school committee look at this and even though the c p c they've been moving in this plenty of opportunity have input i think are sort of leaving one of the stakeholders out of this as well i mean so i don't know whether susan not requesting i'm just suggesting that perhaps it seems to me that the school committee likely would be in favor of it i don't know that to be the case and maybe some objections there but they are an important stakeholder it is school and right now we're standing superintendent support of it the school thirtieth right for the column some to report as your post in the meeting we're going to be the work committee is going to be there we could talk about it if you guys are certain actually in new york you know and you get a poster for tomorrow night  yet a lot of the plans have actually included this as a component of the design knowing full well it wasn't funded by him magine i can't speak for the could be building committee but generally i think there is enthusiasm for this as a concept ok and you could probably get their support as your next meeting and also it was very very aggressively you know thankfully but aggressively scheduled because of the state of deadline even that it's a two year and then even then they're designing it obviously going to be intimately involved in the design how wide and where does it go and is it would void the school committee having to call another a second summer meetings are already coming on the thirtieth if you're going to have a quorum i don't know if we're going to have that's true i mean maybe you want to talk if not then you know i'll leave it to your members yeah that would because that would so we you'd think about whether we want to which i would support because this and this benefits the entire town i believe i would be supportive of the board submitting navigation to see p c for some design money was the plan right i mean the night when i was on the c b c last year i made it very clear to them the probably we would be coming to them for something planned well we spent eight hundred grand this year which i supported on you know the intergenerational path around the mr committee but we've never done a special application process before so this would be our first one the normal cycle is to limp plenary applications or do end of september final around december first and then we kind of vote  in mid january or so for tell i think it's for the regular town meeting and but the one question i had is what town meaning would there be this would be the november town meeting that you were looking you know the vendor twelfth is to show that in the town of supporting resigning to move forward you know that the costs are aligning with what the state is looking at right on the tip me and we're standing behind we're going to allocate and design funds that this project is moving forward with this town supports and i think that's our plan right that's the point right but we are i mean i don't want to make a precedent like i said the beginning out of this because i understand this is this is just a highly unusual time sensitive massively important project that we have really trying for a long time so i i i i feel bad asking for special treatment of it but it's kind of a big pay pre shared actually ira one of the very first projects was this proposal was for this and the very first year so if for some reason the school creates if the july thirtieth doesn't work great if you want to have if you have another meeting at some point you want me or us to be there you just let me or us know and we'll want someone to show up and we can talk because th program two months contract extension m p building services facilities mr dorran sixteen dollars that we have committed to spend to extend the cleaning services contract for two months since the end of their regular contract period contract period was three years and ended june thirtieth so we had to get us through the next couple of months until a new contract is executed in fact coincidental to this meeting the bids have been opened for the most recent contracts so i'd like to do two things with you one is answer any questions you might have about one hundred three to sixteen but also see if we could develop a little frame of reference for the new contract because it represents a fairly significant increase in spending so concerning the one hundred three the same situation occurred in two thousand and fifteen but we had to extend for two months it was around forty eight thousand a month to do that forty eight and have come in from a low of four hundred seventeen thousand per annum to one point two million so quite a big spread for seventeen was dropped for technical reasons so it looks like the new contract is going to represent almost a gross beltre of two hundred ninety five thousand dollars over what we've previously spent in there are some reasons for that which i'd like to talk to you about i think we can get that net delta down to about two hundred because of cost savings on the h r side we right now have five part time staff cleaning town buildings that we'll eliminate so all of the cleaning services will provide provided by a vendor all of the school buildings and all of the town buildings as well and you know my frame of reference is limited but i believe that's the first we can adequately supervise honestly the people that are here at night one and two we've got very high turnover in that population so if we vented all the management supervision becomes the responsibility of the vendor we've required them to have at least two supervisors on at night one to focus on the high school in particular which is the biggest demand the other schools in the town buildings part of what's driven up the cost and i'd like to share please this with each of you is you know the requirements have changed so as you know i'm the new person on the block so to speak and i didn't want you to think that the standards that we've set moving forward in the new contract arbitrary there are five national organizations involved in education on the bottom of the first page that really have established standards for cleaning schools and what they should look like on page two you'll see that the level of cleaning ranges from level one to level five so in the hospital world that i came from for example if one fly was found on the operator on the suite a fifteen thousand square feet we would completely shut it down cancel procedures for the day and make sure that the fly in all of its relatives were killed so that's level one claiming it's kind of hospital grade if you will cleaning in a level five is really in a unhealthy level of cleaning it suggest that trash cans for example are empty as frequently as once a week i would call that infrequently so what we're trying to do is get the level of cleaning services and get the schools to kind of the midpoint which is the net level three the nationally accepted standard to that end it means that we had to define the frequency of tasks differently than we've been doing them in some cases we haven't strict laws in five years so every floor this summer is paying script stripped system the level of routine maintenance will increase pretty dramatically under the new contract so that accounts for part of the increase the other pot or the increases the scope of work in terms of number of buildings changes and number of person hours per week that have to be added to the schedule so i wanted to present you with the cleaning levels so that you wouldn't think any judgment was being made about the standard this is the three right so whatever it takes to get the free well the other thing is before steve came on because we were absent so many people until it is we just love funded the budget we didn't really take a hard look as to what you know it's you know i have  for kids so you know and i think i explained to the warren committee you know at the end of every eighteen at their last meeting that there's going because we level funded facilities is probably going to be little things like this coming up throughout the year we can find that we haven't been at level three and level three is the norm it was who i was in the warmth of in the facility i'm serving and we have to start there yes and say what does it take to get there and how do we do that the most effective cost of food you know cost see it before becomes a crisis now is only a question i would have is how much of it is a result also of us adding additional square footage to the schools right you know since we did the original contract i imagine we probably had ten modular classrooms at this may be incremental square footage to clean i don't believe that's necessarily true because i think that was included in the last contract route so when we modified the terms of conditions of this agreement and defined scope it was at the task level rather than that the square foot level the only additional square feet we had in this contract had to do with town buildings so i hesitate english give you that who were in it there are any apparent because we already know how big those are and in fact they were all delivered on site last thursday they're all here so there's some contribution approval of the application i approve the use of the turn green by the first church for a barbecue meet and greet on wednesday august twenty ninth two forty pm second i was in favor i sounds like a fun time all right possible committee appointments so you have a binder of committee vacancies and applicants where we've got two two openings two applicants and there's a whole lot to talk about and then there's some where the only applicants are people reapplying i don't think there's a whole i need to talk about there somewhere there are vacancies that might be causing a problem that we might wan front load but for the most part you know i think that there are some there are some that have no openings at all so going through the list so obviously that we have a lot of committees but not all of from have someone to appoint the present time so and so points appear to be done by other bodies as well correct right so right and then i also notice for instance like cable television advisory committee no one applied so we have to redouble our efforts to find folks to actually put their hats in the ring one thing to keep in mind this is the first year will be using the new board of selectmen committee appointment rules that we passed last year around this time but it was in the middle of the appointment cycle so we didn't take effect on january first of twenty hundred this is the first year we're using these new rules to professionalize the appointment cycle and make sure that things are everyone understands who applies what the rules are and how the process is going to go in the rules it gives us the ability to interview candidates if we think we need to we did for the zoning board repealed or recently we interviewed the candidates and we made choices we've done it for some committees we've not done it for others it's sort of what your pleasure is at the time i think what it would like to so there i went through them and obviously some of them i have some questions about i think we need to find out because i know this is a new the new online system that you had so the print out is not the format that i'm used to seeing so forgive me if i am asking questions that because i can't try to reconcile the way the print out the showing with which to clarify something on that so often in the past when we receive these we've got an attached resume and so answers to applicants and some we had none so understood i questioned i guess the community path implementation committee which would be the new name i would like to take up the advisory piece because they're actually implementing with that they're not a vising they're actually implementing so my question for that was are there any openings because i'm looking here and it doesn't look like anyone's up you know well i mean the only thing i would say is do we want to have photos because they've been term for quite a long  express an interest in this new form committee or a new reconstituted committee i believe the charge will change so what the charge you have in here is just the new charge of the old joke because it looks like it's not that far off on the one that was  most recently i guess when you guys change the name i mean this change the name of this looks like what we're asking them to do develop strategies for construction identify funding sources feasibility establish cost estimates this is the new drug charges right now because it's almost like if the money is appropriate you're people maybe talk to the chair and see what russ thinks and then i certainly want them all to continue what i want them to think by doing this we're actually asking them to leave a mess i'd like them to stay but we would like them to they don't you need to go up to  seven members i think that nixon had a very nice to many but seven members yeah because yeah and this is going to start moving so that would be a good thing ok so clearly preservation committee i want to be clear here are they meeting precinct three i go to pretty much all the community path meetings i agree with you not everybody shows up but i just thought i'd add that this week since nobody else is here to say it they commented i guess last week since monday that they'd really like a representative from each of the areas that the path goes through so if you're adding more people one of the people on the committee not the chair mentioned it would be nice to have somebody from the west end of town because it's controversial and it be nice to have somebody representing that part of the east and that there are two people from the east end and there's nobody in the west ok thank you thank you all right so the conservation commission seemed i think fairly straightforward just the one i believe and two no two people are up and we have a number of names so that seems to be a good place for the constable is just a point in constables we do have for years not really a committee if we were just giving people the ability to of process and do k p s arrests and such counsel on aging cultural counsel i think those were fairly straightforward the disability access commission i don't see any openings is that correct well it's going to run through this and you guys and if there's one vacancy one person applied the one question i had for matt today was there's no number listed in the charts i don't know if it's a statute that you have to have some right wolf we have an even number of people it's six right now and we have one person to apply and of going to another number seven commission consists of seven regular and two alternate members appointed by or so i where i know we've always been and the majority of the members the commission members are those people with disabilities or an immediate family member with discipline thank you that's that's good to know the education scholarship committee i have to see looks is obviously i'd imagine i went to frenzy is your term obvious it should move out of town right so that's not so i believe so that's an opening and then that's no i think it's great i just want to make sure the people who are using this new system this year i don't want people to get thrown off committees and didn't realize they had to actually do something because that's i'm not trying to clear that committee and i certainly don't want to do that but we want to make sure that we do follow the process so i guess i think it's good if you double check maybe just that we can be able to make sure that know that this is the lack of responses and energy committee this seems to be extremely popular which is a good thing  so i have i see one opening and then we have a recommendation from the chair roger coleman for filling that opening and we had one two three four five six seven eight people residents appoint by the selectmen two representatives from the public school system were designated by the public school superintendent and or school committee one representative belmont life who may or may not be a light employee as does ignited by the light board one representative of town institutions such as private schools hospitals house of worship one representative town business supported by the selectmen up to seven one representative a bellman environmental group appointed by the selectmen and the town administrator may designate appropriate municipal employees also just make one more comment sounds like you're using an x l rather than the report function that came out of the new system and so it shouldn't be this heart since i'm the one who helped create this system i know it shouldn't be this hard because i see the easy he's asking to be a point he is not he's not on it he's not on it that's right ok fair enough right so we have to look to me like there were four openings in three applicants so my correct ecclesial end up with people on the committee you don't really do much and we don't know if they don't tell us because we can't go to every meeting of every kind of recreation commission and i was thinking this might be one to do the interviews on as well because i think this is i think this is an important one and there are i did question that there were three opening there three people who were up and i didn't know if they were really a point seeking reappointment because they're one two three four or five applicants seeking appointment for three spots but none of them are the people who are right so does that mean one chair is a very bradley lynn finlay and david cain are all up and none of them so submitted for reappointment not good and we have five people who have submitted for those reappointing he's listed on here is not being up but i thought he was moving away or had moved away we check yeah i believe that's another opening so i think we have three openings which would be jennifer page why i believe was knots i think she said to me she wasn't also on the other committee so division twenty one i think which i just ran down we have a robust response and we just need to find out whether these people vote on infallible just to verify i believe that's an open  water advisory board we have no applicants so we have no applicants we have no applicants for water advisory that we have two people two out of the three resident it's a it's  six people six i five five five business people about us doing this they were very excited and but you know they don't submit a resume it's kind of pointless if so i don't know if there was anybody had any particular desire to appoint anything tonight or you want to just get hoard i understand full well that the amount of effort here i think what we've done before that we had one or two hour meeting on this you know really well sometimes we don't agree and then you get into a and not to do in a working session but we could have an off cycle just say we're just into commitments you can be on camera which is fine you know i think we should be on camera but yeah yeah of course and some if i think we did that when we have interviewed people when we brought it up i mean we couldn't plan means interview to add just  appointments to a regular agenda is just going to it's yeah it takes a long time it does i think it's an important process for seems like there's three types though right there's one for which it's going to be just a obvious vote there's no question right one individual player one slot committees and yet it takes that time i think we did two two for the ones we could agree on and then or and we're not interviewing right and then for the ones we interviewed particularly last year because of all the turmoil at the planning board and all the sort of surprise resignations we actually i believe we review so our process goes this was from the the meeting the public meeting that we had where we got all of the ideas to create this close universe of ideas of possible way to objectively analyze them so we could knock some of them off and focus we cannot do a deep dive and seven thousand things the idea was to create some way to objectively analyze them some would fall to the bottom some would rise to the top and then the group that rose to the top we would then investigate further and the ones in the bottom we would just drop off the list we weren't seeking a particular answer is the so the idea was to come up with a matrix to analyze them by putting together what are we looking at what were the criteria that would be important i'm not saying all of these factors are this are of equal value and some people might say meeting the climate action plan is a bigger goal than generating revenue and some people might say that bothering the neighbors to the site is the most important thing of anything so they're not really this isn't being done in a way to weight them in particular that it's sort of interesting i think to look at them in all of the top categories and i can just read them as the public doesn't see what we're seeing here is necessarily that should be on the website but it may not be the criteria that we were looking at were whether the these were all being done in a true false so that true was like a positive and false was a negative so they're worded in that way one was is it year round i'm does the use allow for another use with it does the use generate revenue does the use have no maintenance cost again there's no maintenance cost so we can have a true false  for comparison one is is it a municipal use because we are restricted to municipal use for the site one is there no traffic impact one is our there are no new neighbor concerns doesn't meet the climate action plan doesn't allow for d p w use of the site which is going to happen does it have no miscellaneous added cost to the town and then sort of a more subjective one which is is there a broad appeal i guess is not subjective it's sort of does it affect does it impact everybody in the town or if you had a particular like one particular like a tennis court if you don't play tennis you're not going to use it kind of thing as opposed to if it's a solar farm and you get the electricity everybody uses so the idea was to sort of go of this we're not voting on these tonight just the idea was to come up with that the matrix get your comments on the matrix because this after the open meeting law rulings i can't talk or circulate this outside of a meeting you know we're circulating it to you in a meeting to get comment on these items you can see the scoring on the right on the page there and again just because something's a ten doesn't mean that those ten or something's a five doesn't mean that those are more or less important criteria all of us may have different ideas as to which criteria are more important than others and just for the public as well the uses that are on the other part of the chart are anaerobic digester solar hockey rink food relief composting transfer station park and ride playing field w uses bike and skate park dog park pet sematary driving range and open space those were the categories that came out of our public meeting so i'll second page four it's i page without the scoring it's i thought it was easy when i first got this why did i cover it up before i even saw them i covered up what the users were and i just went through the jar and made a whole bunch of notes i took off my hand went back and looked at him to see what sort of i was not shocked to be honest it fell to the bottom and rose to the top in my mind agreed so so i like the criteria i did have one question so no maintenance cost this would confuse me as i was reviewing it because the true and fault seemed to be reversed because i thought the was worth it might be noting that we're making certain assumptions about these being drug problem we're making certain assumptions i'm proud appeal i mean how do you do that differentiated we have to this is just a way to sort of an i actually i love it i think it's great just trying to make sure that it rings true so can i ask just i mean to the broad appeal that was a decision that generally thought went through him and then what's the final score out of thirteen out of the thirteen categories so if you if you just if you worked out so and it's added as you mentioned we didn't wait anything registry you know just kind of a first blush what does this look like also from top to bottom i see so i just for the public let me just read through i guess what the i think the order came out as for the perm are our matrix just taking it for how i've explained it that the for the scores from the top this is number one down to number seventeen i guess number one are using these criteria came out was not that they were going to do these in this order just a way to look at them and digest are one soul or two hockey rink three food leaf composting for transfer station five park and ride six playing field seven and that hits the cutoff and then you get to p w uses eight by can skate park nine dog park ten pet sematary eleven driving range twelve open space thirteen he said it kind of to be less than fifty percent positive yes i mean but but there if i know you it's if it isn't a weight issue it is a good way to sort of continue that this that's what we're just trying to do because all it was a lot of information and we had the public hearing we've got and i want to objectively deal with this not in who proposed what in favoritism like pets might be in the spot for a lot of people cremate them yes yet the other one is a couple of these seem to be more important than others so a you know playa waiting did you think were again is this just a cursory which know this was not intended to be waited and i think it's good it's it could be tough because like i said some people the climate action plan is number one above anything else and some people bothering the neighbors as number one above everything else it's hard to disagree is to make a decision is something right but i think this creates some objectivity tom but it's going to be more of a subjective process at the board that's going to go through here and also my intent would be once we do a cutdown we do an analysis to have another big public forum present the results get comment on those results and then we're going to have to vote  i guess my question is i think it's a great process that we're doing it are we happy with where it stands different space efficiency deficiencies and we will move on or do we want to refine this that's why we're talking if i did we want to refine it then there are some steps we could tell like that but i want to get your input so yes please tell me what you think and i guess for example i look at revenue we have true for the aerobic digester and we have true for the bike in skate park the order of magnitude of revenue generation for the town there i believe significantly different between those two opportunities to get it right so you know those are both being weighed the same way if i were to look at it and have revenue was a big consideration i would not hold those two to be equivalent on that dimension and i would suggest that what you could do is take revenue and you could put it on a ten point scale or a five point scale and you could reflect the big differences between wonders whether so i think it's a refinement i think it's going to find i don't know if you want to do that level of work or whether or not the point here was to put things a bottle of wine and that was the we're trying to broad brush get a cut off of the top half of the body that was that was all the details i think then for the top half ones will have to be delved into but we're going to have to make a decision as to the cutoff i think on our own ok because i don't think having another public for of going through thirteen things is just too and we really and so i like the process and i'd be interested to see some people who may have picked something that's fallen off what their second choice would have been i'd like to hear that and then we can you know go together we can get information on these and some of the ones that have that are in the top half may drop off due to lack of feasibility sure and then we may have a much smaller universe to work out of get public comment on just those remaining items and then we'll make a decision i guess my other question was for glen and i'm glad i asked him to put the timeline for the capping of the site in your package here glenn by this process that we're talking about that scene would seem to keep us in line with this because it doesn't look like we have to start preferred close close use applications or may have have you know year a year to pick less a little less than a year to pick this out i think we can wrap this up this year and here that's the goal agree there's some point we just have to make a decision and clearly you've got thirteen uses twelve propo can comment on their bunny friedman tell me to member precinct three i think that i would just push you to consider that i can skate park as above the line is compared to below i think there's more interest in it than you're giving credit to and they've done a lot of work thinking about ways that they could combine it with something other things on your list and combined i thought had a lot of interest at the meeting it does  the positive for the allows for other uses and literally since i can't see the list i'm just hearing that you had it below the list of consider as though it does just i mean for dog and for buy can skate park it does have a negative on that it's not a year round use about there are people working as i'm not going to debate it i'm just saying that there are a number of them a number of other issues that come across here that put it on the negative side and there's some the put on the positive it i mean those are the criteria we're just sort of and like i said i put i covered up the uses and just ran through the stuff and then made a bunch of notes as to how i would order them from what came out from the matrix and lifted my hand and took a look and it came out on the low end and are a lot of choices yup and the lack of having making the decision lack of disappointing people is unfortunately it's like this kind of drift along time and we've got to move away to something great while we have planned here next item traffic advisory committee it within that document lives the criteria that an engineer uses to evaluate whether or not it is appropriate to create in this case and always stop i use that criteria i did the evaluation and i have to determine that both of these locations   i would just touch on very quickly the the bejeweled in uniform traffic control devices has certain warrants that you have to evaluate and you know there are certainly different degrees of you eventually reach a point where there is sort of a baseline criteria that you can use to evaluate in the case of sherman street these two which sections of the criteria one of the criteria is  a multi way stop is appropriate at intersection of two residential neighborhood collector streets of similar design and operating characteristics where we multiple ways stop control would improve traffic operational characteristics of the intersection it's my professional belief as your town engineer that both of these intersections would benefit under that criteria as a street you know if you're on sherman street as a motorist in your approach if you're coming off of brighton street your approach you want a house road you're at you're on you're running you're running the risk is becoming more likely that there will be motorists that i familiar with some of these locations and i think sherman waterhouse is one of those intersections where a motorist approaches it and for that split second you sort of feel like  with less volume because the dominant road is the one that gets the right of way at this location the dominant road is the one that has been stopped waterhouse road so that even adds to the level of confusion of threats from motorists i add to that the proximity of the pedestrian activity as i said i believe that that this criteria is satisfied and my recommendation is for the board to approve a four way stop in that location it is a similar situation at sherman indian street however there is one additional criteria that is also met read that one quickly locations where road user after stopping cannot see conflicting traffic and is not able to negotiate the intersection unless conflicting cross traffic is also required to stop if you can imagine yourself on sherman street coming from the wynn brook school approaching the dean street intersection you have a stop sign control so you stop on sherman street you cannot see up to the street ok so now you as a motorist you have stopped the traffic on dean street has the through right of way unimpeded and because of the angle of approach from dean on to sherman street it's an unsafe situation now there's no x in the history there and we were very clear about that but once again in terms of the comfort level of a motorist it's awkward to be in that location because once you stop on sherman street you really have to creep creep creep out into that intersection to make sure no one is coming down the street so the visibility aspect of that intersection the fact that once again dean street and sherman street have similar characteristics i believe that both of that criteria ultimately wants a recommendation for a four way stop then and the fact that the obvious as you said here sherman a water house or school walking we install the advance warning signs as well stop sign ahead to to tip off to motorists that there's something different at the intersection ahead i work with then mail hot such a mail in the belmont traffic division and if he feels that we should even go the further locus of the topic of conversation from that point i will make a determination on who should be notified i usually go a couple of streets in either direction and it's a postcard mailing direct to the properties notifying them of the traffic advisory committee is going to be considering in this case it would have been a four way stop at this location the postcards pretty specific in terms of what the traffic advisory committee is considering you know it's an invitation to attend the hearing of this great this in this particular neighborhood because we also did ultimately didn't improve improvements on cross street did some other things going to raise the race cross walk in front of on cross street at the wynn brook race  tables down near the alexander avenue which is session there were there was a lot of stuff going on in that neighborhood so these hearings actually occurred over a series of i think it was three months we've been doing a lot in this neighborhood yeah it's all good stuff i mean obviously all also action ery to the fact so as i said in my memo the consulting group b h p has been commissioned by the town of belmont through the traffic advisory committee to study the intersection of winter street and concord ave and mill street in concord avenue so there were a series of meetings that have been held there has been a conceptual plan developed out of those discussions nothing that's been that's been shared publicly yet because frankly we've been sidetracked with a lot of other traffic issues in the town silva will get there eventually it's good neighborhood looking at traffic issues i asked them to do the evaluation that i would ordinarily do which i did on the sherman streets ok i thought it was appropriate to have each be do this analysis because as i said that when you talk about the degree of  intersection that you're evaluating that this is really a big one and if the report is quite hefty i did not include a copy of it because it really is quite have to but ultimately their recommendation comes down to two discoveries two points of evaluation that they made if i could just read to read to you brad just this paragraph here very quickly there are several warrants that are analyzed to determine if a multi way stop approach is justified the crash history at this location is enough to justify a multi way stop so the crash history alone satisfies the criteria for a four way stop the five year period between two thousand and twelve and two thousand sick scene was was evaluated in this report there were fourteen crashes in that period seven occurring just in two thousand and sixteen the criteria of the warrant that is that is called out in the manual in uniform traffic control devices is crash history of five or more a year so we exceeded that in that ye you thousand and sixteen what the data we didn't have at the time was and we've come to find out here as i've added to my memo there were another eight crashes in two thousand and seventeen so not only do we exceed that fat but that baseline of five we actually added to one the number of crashes in that location so i think it's indicative of the increase in traffic volume and obviously that particular intersection is troublesome so the crash history in and of itself is enough to justify further at the intersection sight distance was also evaluated this is another criteria and was found to be inadequate for a left turn movements out of my street from both the east pond in the west bank so if you can imagine yourself as a motorist you've got the stop control currently when you stop four way stop putting that in place would create a safer intersection absolutely absolutely and that we will get a light and that what we do is the approach the recommendation for approach to these evaluations is incremental and so you wouldn't go from an uncontrolled four way on right or suicidal arizona with the street towards concord avenue you people have to stop people are going to stop the way people are going to stop only just read in either direction and the beat the beacon that exists would be changed go down i think we've got one of them up tonight in winter and we've got a good concept to address both of those intersections the the one sort of point of challenge right now is we're going to need to take some strip of land from rock metal once again talking about the degrees of these intersections when you're talking about a sherman street waterhouse and dean neighborhood intersections you know really you have to you have to really drill down to find criteria that you can hang your hat on i believe and i feel strongly that the intersection of martian winter is such a safety hazard that other then as i indicated here notifying the neighborhood upon your approval i didn't feel it was necessary to have a public discussion ahead of time because frankly there was nothing that was going to be said in that meeting that was going to change my mind that this is the section it's unsafe in needs to be addressed it would be good to know if the neighbors have a massive problem with all that they're going to think the traffic is going to q their house because of this clearly but what problem could they possibly suggest that would trump the correction of a safety issue seventy jesse jackson one of this is not just a matter of getting the information i have no idea what the neighbors think that's the issue so it doesn't make it a bad public i just want to i want to stress that this this action is not being taken to mitigate speed on which street that's not an appropriate use of stop signs this action is being taken because the intersection is unsafe because of the turning the engine is at but it will have an impact on speed two items last but you know yeah so you're in this contract here allows myself to hire company to command and line seal line sewer service is that have been found to be leeching into the storm drain system this is directly related to the e p a order of the water and consent but it's out of belmont is under at the moment one of the requirements in that order on consent is that once we make a discovery like this we have sixty days to correct it  so what this does is it gives us the means to be able to have essentially a contractor on call an interesting leave the evaluation in the investigations that we've been doing the last year or so most of the hits that we've been coming across are these leaky service  connections so what this contract does is allow us to have an on call contractor when we have a sewer service that needs to be lined the contract requires them to come in within thirty days and do a line of work ok this is a reputable been working on such great thank you so much for the time we see state recognition in may for its outstanding work to meet the state and federal drinking water in my opinion midpoint is another term for salary cap those long term employees have far happen to fall above this arbitrary line do not receive any type of merit increase i have been told no we've used have been done a nonunion employees in their past who are above midpoint those employees under the midpoint have been reviewed views will be done and all nonunion employees and once completed a merit increase apply mid point are not have attached the forms that will be used and based on the calculated outcome a percentage merit increase could apply to above midpoint nine and union employees beginning july first two thousand and eighteen percent increase could be determined as follows meet expectations would  receive an additional one percent merit increase exceeds expectations an additional two percent merit increase and then excellent highly commendable an additional three percent increase for employees under the midpoint that money has already been appropriated for a for employees above the midpoint there is money available that has been income for a story of what was the reason for doing this what i was finding was long term employees were just getting a standard two percent time thing to them think about rather than having to debase copy of a two percent you know color any way they get any veteran union contract and you just have a bonus pool and you evaluate based on that and so if you're if you're you know whatever the pool might be depending on the if you continue that salary then you always have that cliff that year in terms of hey now we have to support this all the special mirror now piece based on performance and you have a bonus pool you can go one year well this is what we think we can paul second on favor i've seen this in executive session one from march twelfth two thousand and eighteen i did make one or two small revisions to it related to some things that were i think were just kind of extraneous comments and that they need to move with changes noted by the chair second abstain executive session april thirtieth tom you're on the right two thousand everybody for doing that before we move on to the next items just want to make the just make them to statement that as you know i've been accusing myself from matters regarding bump on my high school project when an issue was raised about my participation due to me living on about town councils opinion was that i did not have to recuse myself the state has now come down and decided that i do have to recuse myself the state decision lacked a lot of details and i'm requesting that some questions be submitted as are that the some of the details as to how it plays out were not stated in there we want to find out some more detail and we will get that when we get that but you know it takes time so why don't we tell you about your take a two minute recess to let me to gracefully time to mount is not included here man is not included but surely the residents of this community prior to this vote will surely understand the amount and impact to them yes that this will be part of of of the material that will not be the building committee doing this the debt exclusion is right is yours like what it's like now i understand that but it's really and we will be a committee that has formed ok committee has more to do with it exclusion we are not part of the don't understand right or right development director and we have created an eleven member committee for the high school traffic working group appointed by you the board of selectmen for one year term we've actually put time and date because a lot of the membership is representation from boards and committees and we figured and so they're doing that you know whining around trying to figure who can be on when and where they can meet the committee members can be appointed based on their we view all current and proposed ways to alleviate traffic concerns as it relates to the as belmont high school project identify parking and traffic issues related to the proposed new high school during and post construction areas of study to include the project site and burning wood ways additional sidewalks during construction and the adjacent neighborhoods determine responsible for evaluating identified issues need areas of responsibility so that all concerns are being evaluated and responded is to present results detailing issues raised evaluation made and final recommendation criteria for membership is a member of the boards like when a member from the planning board member from school committee member from the traffic advisory committee member from the b t high school building committee member of the police department department of public works three residents and then the community development office director and then me as an advisory member so  and is there no ability in between that period of time between now let's say over amber for this working group to present you know sort of initial thoughts about some of the recommendations because it's your committee so great and i i think we can get to these committees oh you know it's summer months i realize that and get them to have their recommendations the residents may be a little bit more there so ok i don't think there's any further business or next meeting scheduled for as i mentioned july thirty two thousand