where does the money come from taxes ok so that's taxes from people who have worked and when they get older they get sick they need help come up with some soft spot for that individuals when they get older don't need help what two and ninety four five eleven hundred baker let's come back to this is there's an issue here on health care we have and it's that i say that no i didn't say that so you know it's interesting to the point where you know a discussion about something is important is taking care of poor people's taking care of sick people taking care of roads all of those things are important it's go how do you do that with only one dollar and five hundred dollars worth of expens the issue of the state i mean deanna opting out of medicaid is at this level an emotional issue sure it is because there are people who are not getting care that they could get in illinois if they lived in illinois or they could go woman could go get a mammogram because medicaid has bendix expanded in illinois and it hasn't been in indiana and that is an emotional issue in the times does this big expos on sunday debt according to one study that four hundred ninety nine people will die in indiana because medicaid has not been expanded that's real soft so so do you know anything about that study other than for the fact that it was put on the front page of the paper and somebody said hey you know what here's a study by these guys and they're say these people want to people are going to die ok what a great idea because this is actually a  study done by the harvard medical school medical school who has a pretty good reputation and so of making doctors of making doctors and evidently doing studies also but the the idea that medicaid expansion has medicaid expansion opponents say the declining federal share leave states on the hook eventually for an increased portion of the bill and that is that is a good argument by republican governors for not joining at but in the end there are people like barnett and cora who could be left without certain types of care because medicaid was not expanded that's the reality of it it's a great i mean this isn't a color thing this is republican democrat thing this is taking care of the community you know what needs to happen is is it can't be something that at the end you have to help you know is it something you should help i mean all the way through the process because personally my opinion is i'm against poor people being poor they should have the opportunity to not be poor so it's more for trying to do that now some people just because circumstances that i can speak of in everybody's got a story they can have those opportunities in the end or certain you know extenuating circumstances i understand that but you know you can't be global on one side of an argument and be specific on the other i mean you have to be consistent and that's kind of what i see  decipher exactly what they're getting at here knopper different things i've read different books about this and the big sticking point here with the states the last i heard was that the problem with the pro government was they were they were supplementing the ate there was no language in the bill after your twenty twenty i mean it would be so well managed at all by the federal government it says here it's ninety percent by twenty twenty what does that mean does that mean that after twenty twenty two continue to fund it ninety so really what you're getting into what you're getting to is that in the future there's no certainty to who's going to pay for all of us and i understand that part of it there are certainly there is certainly a  good reason to not be in medicaid expansion for many governors and i understand that but the reality of the situation is right now is what we're dealing with here leigh and reality of the situation is indiana has a two billion dollars surplus we did not expand medicaid and somewhere in there there are poor people who will not get the same kind of care that you and i probably will not yet ok i'm not a not a thing is happens are we going to raise the tax rates that like european level to eighty ninety percent to pay for all these things i mean that this article in the times is like it's old it's old actually it's made a surprise again that because all they're doing is they're  and all of it's bad planning and it's taking away some of the free my it in and i understand all of the problems it has had it could have the net effect of getting preventive care and wellness campaigns to poor people where they should be needed most that is being blocked at the state level and i can and i get there right now because of medicaid is an expanded there is a social cost for that harvard's trying to do to quantify that and they're saying i don't know what the time the time frame is but they're saying four hundred ninety nine people will die in indiana because we did not expand medicaid that's their direct causal effect according to that study according to that study and we've made it real with core and baronet here ok it's a these are personal stories of people who get old or need care and so forth i don't know i think it's some point the only thing you can say is that that's kind of the cost of doing business you're not going to get your mammogram you may get breast cancer and i'm really sorry but we can't pay we just don't have enough money that there's no other answer the answer really i mean what i mean you government isn't the catch all the solve everybody's problems which is not so i mean as long as we keep looking at government to solve all of the problems in society we're big trouble in my opinion because they do a lot of things none of them real well but they do a lot of things at some point what part of society is going to be able to come together to help these individuals like barnett in an  cor and they're just maniac and you know can you blame him last phone call then you got to go i got to go and so you're going to get to talk is that how this no go ahead finish your thought so i mean it goes back to a lot of the things having to do with what here in society  talking about the churches and i'm talking about the charities and i'm not talking just about the ones you to see there's no court needed effort to handle some of these major problems that we have in our society and you know what it just another aspect of the organizational component dead by the time they were sixty two but we still have the same system in place as far as how we take care of our medical expenses how does it make any sense to a ninety four five eleven i last phone call hello this is peggy on line three hi or not poor people right but you know you're talking about charitable organizations coming together and kind of gab but if you went to the catholic church and said hey how about you do that they're going to have that's not my responsibility and you know what they're not there for the whole not in the mind they're not there to take and what not and i'm not saying that the government is our last resort last hope i certainly agree with you on that that it shouldn't be but we're in way the president wants to play it whether these people still do good question good thing i think we've gone through that enough do you want to retort to that or doing or you know this will keep going on and on and on i mean it's to the point where you know i understand it it relates to you know the faith based organizations but i'm also of the opinion if your faith based and you go to the organization and say need some help they're not going to turn you away they're going to help you get on the right programs do they need to be sending everybody to a government funded program listen we've already spent fifty two trillion dollars on poverty and we haven't even dented it that's the government spending these guys don't have any clue what they're doing with the government money let's let's go let's look at three things really quick affordable health care act two trillion down the tubes has announced a single person we've got to gary airport what we've got almost almost a billion dollars there has got plane flying out of there now to do a study on the south shore about starting in the south shore for like fiftieth time how about we get the government out of his many things as possible because the government just wasted money and they could didn't say he hates poor people he hates poor the state of being poor and the flock if they called in earlier about you keep taking money from the poor both by definition they're poor what is there to take to govern the state of indiana is not going to do with obamacare because  acare is a racket to redirect money have a go in a circle and at the end there's no money left produces no result because this thing is a disaster in the cvo c b l just came out with that people are now going to be losing hours losing jobs and the president of our united states says we'll probably have a stay at home and spend more time with their kids as now if they didn't have enough money to do what they need to do they're going to have less but they'll be home with less so if their children look at them and go hey dad you got one more potato laying around no because i can't go to work because my a c a makes me stay home now this is a disaster you guys think you could take maybe twenty of these ask for one fifty she got trade them meant so i can maybe get a mammogram get rid of the fifty people you've got work going over there doing nothing that's what you do but they don't want to do that they don't want to call their democratically involved criminal politicians to the man they simply want to say well if you can email bible phone i'll vote for you again that's how this goes man this is a big corruption and thank god the state of indiana says we're not going to get involved with obamacare because all will pay for three years but then after that the state even has got to pay four hundred percent of it to get the money in by the what i got to go bake ryan yeah so i didn't get the invite on that one again for the tenth year in a row i'm not going down there when so many people and it's hey everybody have a good week to be  all the way down there and you know i do like sitting on the floor and taking the pictures and so forth but it's just i don't know i was at the i was in madison yesterday you know i don't care about me listen i was in madison and the michigan state guys were in the hotel they were staying at the same place and they were going to play wisconsin and we could and i could have got tickets and looks like you want to go on i want to go through the whole game and i don't even care who wins anyway