until police could arrive there alert and core data response result in the average of two actors and recover recovery of number of pieces of equipment that have been project we purchased in ohio this incident brought in brought to a close  criminal the activities of these two individuals that covered pennsylvania ohio and west virginia involving more than forty retail establishment their actions greatly assisted the police department and are deserving of this distinguished community service award the southwest pennsylvania commission and the reason they were here was the michael know that he had been chosen for the job a james memorial on a moral excellence and local government achievement  international affairs and dr despite time he was an advocate for for intergovernmental cooperation and professionalism in local government didn't joe actually sat on michael's  about local government and the first was that joe believed more than anything else that local government more than any other level of government defines the quality of life for people the second thing is that joe always thought the presidents and taxpayers deserve that he should   one above is to new layout so basically what's happening is this lot in the spirit of from this configuration go all the way up here and compassed this building and the reason is that that building is s went back again this year to ask whether or not they would be willing to extend that one additional year in that you told us they will it's my recommendation that we approve this particularly in light of the fact we have so many other changes the gutters was one hundred eight thousand five hundred the budget for the for the product with one hundred seventy three one eighty four we expected it to come in the report to come in lower than then the estimate so we added on replacement  descriptions are the requirements needed to apply for the job we were you have an ongoing problem in the police department in terms of staffing them part time and always you know one of the one of the things that we argued for and early on had some success with is that we would hire part time employees ways with the idea that we'd be able to see their performance and then when full time positions opened up we would then have some experience with that those individuals and hire them on what's happened in the meantime is in the recent hire ins more often than not this part time employees are only with us for a very short period of time they're straight out of school we're giving them training we're giving them a credential on their resume and they're using now to to obtain full time employment elsewhere and so with this this change since the proposals is attempting to get to is create a position that is more permanent part time position and by requiring experience  officers either from other me just full departments or from the state police in doing so we would be hiring somebody who was walking for part time employment but at the same time was appalled by the individual to provide police differentiate between these two positions in terms of qualifications needed  possibility so this would be attractive compared to other options they might have yes when you look at this option if if we average two days a week for them the fact that we work twelve hour shifts and what we pay those part timers they're looking at supplementing their retirement income by anywhere from thirty to forty thousand dollars a year and the decision to waive the physical agility test is that what you feel will make  difference with them applying or not a fine i think that's part of it when you look at people who are fifty ish they've been there done that as far as competing with twenty year olds for  were a position inside the fire department i would not recommend that we do that but the fact with matter is with the police service physical agility tests are only given at the point of our like in the fire service w negotiate within our labor remit so these these police officers particularly the ones where we would be waiting in the physical agility death will have been in service within the last two years  therefore the we know different then then your police officers currently with the exception that they will of had to complete a medical examination which your police officers do not record i appreciate what you're saying i'm just trying to clarify the fact that in the job description there is a minimum requirement for physical ability and it was just my desire to understand that there would still be an expectation no absolute the officers would completely fulfill the job description with those minimum requirements absolute and as far as your comment about them only being out of service for two years which was that in reference to well the world we are weighed me the requirement for the physical write only for office hearers who have been in service within the last two year period anyone on a longer period has been how the police service for the last five years will need to demonstrate that they can be on that the mopac requirement is if you've been out of service in more than two years you have to go back to the state and take a research if you cation exam so that's why we chose the two year time frame ok you mentioned in one last two last questions you mentioned that the current legal counsel felt that would not be creating any issues with the union related to a separate job description i can address i've spoken directly to the union steward regarding this he is one hundred percent on board with his interest is in getting qualified people in these part time positions who will remain in those positions in they recognize i think every deputy chief i think that it's a nice way to approach and i think it could be of benefit i just i'm trying to get all the questions under the last thing from a from a worker's comp perspective there are no issues with weight and that and then scheduling you would watch so that you would have a mix of people they would never all be the same for time that you know the contract that's true cars we have two full time persons on each anyways ok and then the pay structure is it the same as the existing pay structure fit when i compared to the officers that are on the active duty that i think i could out run the concert you say we will take into account offered a job in peter's found it is as a condition of employment required to pass a visible and what that what we do is by the physician a copy of that job description in the past associated with performing and the doctor's asked the doctor is especially occupational medicine isn't asked to make an assessment is whether or not that person's health is is in line with what the requirements of the job said then that covers the question of whether or not someone might not be physically able to beautiful that's the intent of that of that exam and again you know the thing that i would like one other question they came to mind you talked about eight years of experience as a full time police officer in lieu of a college degree with full time military service equate to that if someone was a military training and certification so there than required to go to an academy in obtain the remaining credentials courses to tame the credentialed certification so would that have to happen before they were hired the way it's written is that they're required to be in service as a certified police officer in pennsylvania for that period of time they can get certified but coming from outside they are not immediately certified there's a requirement on mopac fortune to research and determine whether or not they were full time service in the other state whether or not they attended an approved academy in that state and then there's a couple of others that i mind right now but i would think i'm ok would honor of that experience yes would too as a r his his badge number from mopac mo picks municipal police i'm sorry municipal police officers education and training commissioner so they oversee all serve occasions for all to three thousand police officers in pennsylvania currently kids who have not served as a police officer in the last two years i think what you're trying to say is that they would have had to then for the last two years employed as a police officer not that they work one day in the last two years as a police officer and i think that language could be interpreted that way well inter breeding that it that way meets unfortunately the current regulations in pennsylvania if they work one day in a two year period they retain their serve occasion could we change that for to suit our needs yes but by state laws that are state regulation i'm sorry they meet that requirement position well because you can't you're not to be able to promote from who you invision these people are going to be you know only in it you know it's going to be very difficult unless you pay more money to get somebody come from a copper bowl community here because  that they may be halfway to their vest it all likelihood i don't see that you'll be hiring these part time employees to be full time one of the arguments that i've heard from  q crimes is that there's a belief that the pool of applicants that we get to see is a lot smaller because when we come we go out and there were ties we are ties for part time positions and anyone who has recently graduated from school would much prefer to have full time employment and so it may be and i don't know this for a fact in wall e see this the next time we go out to our full time officer is that the pool of candidates and therefore the potential for getting a better may actually groups but i can't tell you that or you know we have we have very low turnover in our police department so it could be that people don't apply because they don't see the potential of a position being opened up and if these people were proposing to hire don't care about that maybe that center case situation because our turnover in the police department is not that i mean i can't remember the last time someone zero five year agreement the amount for next year would be forty six thousand four hundred two dollars and twenty nine cents slightly over a one percent increase from the prior year and we often get subsidies at the end of it based on the winter properties more than road right of ways in the congo or know that if you're within the room right away then that amount of the month the amount of land in the road right of way can be counted towards your ten acres which is what's brought this up here so i guess my question  the remaining work if we have some unforeseen that they think will be close to the budget number this year and and we've got if you recall we got pretty good pricing so we're fairly far under that the budgeted number of one point five five million dollars for the road maintenance program this year i am proposing to add sienna trail which was the last one that was poured off the west that's definitely does need done but i think we need to rethink our approach on this job we tried to salvage as much of the call rich as we can and for other reasons that i'll go into next meeting with permanent through the people we tried to approach this project in a some appraisal information and we are asking to have an executive session the purpose of which would be to give authorisation to  there's a number of faces growing here and i'm proposing that we take our two of our portable speed humps and put them there at least through this construction season we need to address sea floor and i think i also agree with mr lewis but then we have to look in peter's lake park too there's significant amount of dash down around the parking lots and i saw a couple weeks ago so and i know we have budgeted money for for the second year in a row for removal of trees both along street right away as well as in the parks what i can do is check with  mr over cash or mr hurst and see what all their plans are i know we have removed a number of trees already this year some we do in house some we have to contract out depending on the size and location but i asked them to give us a report on what the status is and they did the plan for the year and then we hired a consultant last year to identify a lot of the trees that need to be removed and unfortunately several of them were going to be on private property th under ordinance we do have a provision that if a tree is dead and it's within so much distributing the structure or the street that we can direct the property owner to remove it and we don't but if it's if it's