outside far our staff we have our attorney or legislative attorney chair and brooks and also our our less committee secretary pauline martins before we begin i'd like to ask anyone who would like to testify please sign fernandez on military office is there anyone wishing to testify good morning go good afternoon chairman guzman and committee members i'm barbara long as most of you know i am past president of friends of old molly high from two thousand and three when campus cleanups first began until i became president emeritus five years ago some members of our board are here because this event is very important to us first would be our vice president  is well for all those years from two thousand and three friends volunteers were with saber alumni and community members to rehabilitate and preserve the century old campus and plan for its future and through those years we've been very grateful for the ongoing support of the county administration and the county council so we especially thank you today for giving this proud historic school a chance for a dynamic and meaningful future i was speaking today on behalf of the board of directors to ask for the committee support for the teach my l l c proposal and lease agreements for the reuse and repurposed saying of the old maui high school at home a cool poco you have received a letter from us today signed by every officer and director it explains the reasons we support the teach proposal after meeting with teacher representatives and much discussion we agreed that their proposal reflects an enhances friends goals and honors the legacy of the school and it's a lot we urge you to vote in favor of the teach maori l l c proposal and the leases so that old maori highs future can be as bright as its past if you have questions for us we'll be happy to answer them mahalo you miss long members do you have any questions for the testifier see none thank you very much for your testimony the final test of fire in the chamber know how mr cherry and council members thank you so much for allowing us to come to testify i am on the board for friends of ultimately high that today i'm testifying as an individual and i retired land  attorney and i'm quite familiar with teachers proposal far far away high and i believe it would be wonderful and i think it would fit in completely with the master plan that friends of ultimately high was able to put together with the help of the community the community came in on several occasions and told us what they would like to do with ultimately high and i believe that their proposal is consistent with this plan and i think it would be wonderful for the community our only item that we have on today's agenda we have the we're going to go ahead and receive a presentation and introduction of the project and be able to also ask questions of the project sponsors and then  possible we can either take action or to defer this matter for further discussion depending on the the will of the committee so turning to the item the description of the today's item we're going to be addressing number three which is the correspondence dated july twentieth two thousand and sixteen from the economic development director transmitting a revised proposed resolution a title authorizing the grant of a lease of the county a real teach development l l c pursuant to chapter three point three six and three point four zero the maui county code attached to those to that authorization of the lease is to attach propose prince or a five three to teach development alice see the purpose of the revised proposed resolution is to allow the mayor the director of finance or their authorized representatives to enter into two  leases to teach development of a c for the all now a high school count campus for one dollar per year and total for both parcels for a term of sixty years for use as a facility of innovative social economic charles w dickey opened on open the twenty four acre campus some committee members may remember those days before it closed although it is listed in the whole why a register of historical places the property has been sitting vacant since that time in two thousand and five community organization organizations including friends of the maui old maui high school held community meetings to discuss revitalization of the area and started working to clean up and restore the campus friends of old maui high is actively involved in the preservation of and the historical essence of the property senator daniel a noise help to a federal grant through the e p a of two hundred fifty thousand to clean up fire damage to the buildings to make it safer in two thousand and fourteen the mayor's office through the office of economic development issued an open request for proposal seeking groups interested in leasing the campus for twenty plus years to use and repurposed a campus consistent with the two thousand and ten executive order number forty three forty three by that order the state set aside the campus to county for social services education agriculture and related support services now before us we have a plan to repurpose the hold now a high school campus per our if p number fourteen fifteen dash p dash fifteen through the grant of two leases to teach development l l c for terms of sixty years for a total of one dollar per year the project seeks to revitalize the and restore and use the campus of old maori high school as an innovative campus and community center focusing on technology education and aquaculture to describe the proposed proposal and to answer our questions we have the economic development director tina rasmussen the director of finance there m and the proposed lessees teach development l a c as well as the representatives from the friends of old now high school as a part of our panelists like to introduce our panelists that we have before you members we have barbara along  guess your right hand side at the very end she is the president of the friends of old maui high and has been involved since the start of the organization in two thousand and five we have rich lucas who is also the program manager of the friends of old now c in two thousand and eight and serves as the president and chairman of the board of the advisors he has also spent five years in the automobile automobile automobile repair business is june one nine hundred eighty and has served on various assignments says thirty years of senior management experience in engineering and research fields he's also an author of two books one of them is the industrial energy conservation and residential and commercial building energy of experience teaching graduate level courses we also have jason hobson is the general contractor and chief developer of an officer of the teach development jason is an attorney who has been working with the california public utilities commission low income oversight board and advising the public private partnerships and extensively as a developer of portable housing the last but not least we have glenn mason he's the designer of teach development and glen has thirty nine years of our architectural experience in both preservation of history culture  structures and design of new projects he is also the founder of mason architects of before going to go ahead and miss tina rasmussen for any opening comments before we proceed with the presentation by mr get to this point approximately three years ago o e d received a visit from a small group of board members from the friends of old now a high school they explained that despite their valiant efforts to raise funds to rebuild the administration building and rehabilitate the campus which was intended to be a patsy mink center they were conceding that due to the aging of the alumni and the forty years that had passed since the campus was vacated they now did not feel that they would ever be able to see the project through they informed o e d that the infrastructure requirements to bring the campus back were too great for them to afford there is no political water there's no fire protection there is no septic system on the property and all of this would be required they furthermore explained that they would not be capable of much longer being the caretakers of the property with the county grant the county of maui has been providing the friends of high a grant between sixty five thousand and one hundred thousand dollars per year to maintain the campus in the best m possible to their credit this dedicated group has kept the usable buildings intact and protected them from leaking they've protected the foundations the mant of the administration building and have kept the campus from being overgrown they've conducted numerous studies that detail the infrastructure problems as well as the study that shows the vision of what they believe the campus should be restored to from this initial conversation with the friends o e d convened a meeting with several directors in various departments as well as some staff in the county who had worked on this project in the past and some consultants who had been hired by the friends board we met we discussed this project we we talked about all kinds of angles and how the county might be able to step in and solve this and the  meeting it was suggested that we put in our out for a dollar long term lease to see what kind of interest there would be so on september first twenty fourteen zero we deep published the r p lease and we are now here today for council approval of that those leases should be noted that the lease for the twenty two point one five acre interim zoned parcel which is owned by the state of hawaii but given to the county through executive order has also been sent to the board of land and natural resources for approval we do however have preliminary approval from the chair of b l n r suzanne case that states the use under teach proposal is consistent with the executive order and you do have a copy of that letter in your pocket if you move today to approve this lease the motion should be stated that it is contingent upon subsequent deal in our approval as as of this date we do not know when it will be scheduled on the b l and our docket you have met our guests today i want to wrap up by saying i want to particularly fank department directors dave taylor david goodwill spence and our corp council attorneys ed cushy and jerry shepherd who have been extremely helpful in getting us to this point  also want to express our gratitude for the dedicated friends of all my high who have held the vision of this campus to be returned to a place of learning innovation and inspiration that decades of care that they have provided to this campus has been enormous and enormous tell ask that has gone relatively unnoticed by the larger community their service has been exemplary we feel it is now time for us to honor their tireless work and interest this property which has such a rich and historical past to a new generation of innovators educators and caretakers we have the teach group with us today and they have prepared a powerpoint presentation for you which i'd like to go through now and then we were all available for questions thank you very much the q members you have a copy  appreciate all the support that we've had from leo my eyes friends oh my i school we've met with a number of times and who've been very very supportive of what we're trying to do and we will continue to work with them to to make it such that the financing of the project glenn will talk about some of the you know what we're going to be doing to get the teach that are to be worried need to be from a construction point of view i'm just a tag along so i'm here all of you to make this excess mark thank you melanie mahalo to the council members and the chair for inviting us here today to share our vision with you this vision really  is one that comes from from the heart as everybody has acknowledged this is an island in transition the world is also in transition and in order to support the health of this planet and humankind we need to make some changes and to demonstrate what is possible to create an abundant thriving and sustainable world for maui and the world and future generations we believe that this property it's prior uses and what it represents can be a showcase exemplary innovation that will help build a local living economy and the regenerative economy and we will explain what that means in greater detail been sitting abandoned in pretty much of a can except for the efforts of the friends of all my high school for about forty years and cost in the county between istana said sixty five to one hundred thousand dollars a year  and we are here to make a long term commitment to change that will hopefully benefit mali in a very significant way as well as showcase new technologies education and green job training for the world so we are here to listen to learn from collaborate with and serve the community of mali south korea mali that is more socially vibrant economically thriving environmentally healthy we also intend to honor the legacy of all molly high by being a place of education but a place that educates people in meaningful work and green jobs that will actually help the environment of ma and will help to increase the economic development of maui while fostering greater community health moreover we look forward to creating an innovation center where we can facilitate entrepreneur in demonstrating new technologies specifically around agriculture water food security energy is security biomaterials and ways to demonstrate integrative planning and design to to showcase how we might be able to build in the future our communities one of the big themes that i've been hearing and one of the big needs here is affordable housing and part of making life affordable is affordable food affordable water affordable energy and we believe that my demonstrating how communities can collaborate and come together we can increase the quality of life while they're wearing the cost of living some of the economic benefits that we see from the teach center and that we intend to bring to maui in collaboration with the community is increased investment and economic growth in the region  virtue of the estimated fifty six million dollars that we will spend in developing teach we will create jobs once teach opens its doors we will create more jobs but moreover  the incubation of hundreds of companies has the potential of creating thousands of jobs for a valley and these jobs are again not focused on you know menial labor and and and low paying jobs but actually economy is looking at living systems natural capital in order to enhance the economy of maui recently the world bank put out a number fisheries our forests are and how the bees pollinate flowers you know i did a separate study showing that natural capital is being eroded by human activities at a rate of seven point three trillion dollars a year now when you do the math that means we have roughly ten years to really make a difference and really not even ten years so there's an urgency to showcas ing new ways of living new ways of relating to each other in nature and we believe that the teach center and this unique piece of property can be that showcase in addition to the economic benefits we see social benefits because of the fact that it can become a beautiful gathering place that really showcases these new technologies and health and wellness for the community we see greater community engagement helping the community to learn about food and exercise and mindfulness and improve relationships well we hope that through our community efforts and community engagement that we can actually bring people together in the community to collaborate to create a maui that is more abundant thriving sustainable and healthy aside from that the ecological benefits of the teach center are that we're very fortunate to have on our team people like merrill who has done mission critical integrated energy over thirty years here in the renovation and looking at how buildings can best serve the community so the ecological benefits we intend is to show how this built environment water that is often leading to the destruction of those systems that support our life it is our hope through community involvement through involvement with business and government and government here that we can actually demonstrate the ecological benefits and economic benefits of doing the right thing i am now going to turn this over to jason hobson who is going to tell you about the nuts and bolts of our development in finance and talk about the facilities create thank you mark but council members thank you very much for your time today in your consideration and what i would like to do is talk about how this vision which is a grand vision and it's a vision of the future how that's going to translate into the facilities and the projects and the various components of our project at oldham our high school and we envision using integrated design sustainable practices and regenerative systems to repurpose approximately two thousand square feet of built environment and this includes the preservation of the old now a high school historical campus and specifically the the dickey building and what we're creating here is an inspiring community gathering place for innovation for education for agriculture for community and for health and to showcase the integration of all these components and this educational center will also provide opportunities for training in clean tech green jobs innovation in farming innovation and healing is well as opportunities for our kids and our children to come at a youth camp and really better relate to food in agriculture most kids nowadays they don't know where food comes from they discover the grocery store this will actually be an opportunity for kids to come to a youth camp understand food farm in truly what it is to be farm to table we're also creating a co working space that really will foster innovation in agriculture and aqua tack and in food some of the facilities where we're contemplating using is repurpose seen the old commercial kitchen all of our high school turning that into a commercial kitchen for local food entrepreneurs there's such a huge food scene on this island especially upcountry and the north shore giving people an opportunity to come in use those facilities learn how to run a business create an ecosystem around that commercial kitchen so it is a food hub and also a place for incubating new technologies in agriculture we've been approached by several solar remediation companies that are very interested in looking at the soil here and doing some tests farming to figure out what works what doesn't work what's a best practice and so we have a lot of uses that are planned and when you combine all these uses the common three the common theme is one of wellness and so when there are integrated collectively we're creating an ecosystem of wellness of innovation and a showcase for innovation in agriculture and health and so i'm going to turn to the next page and i'm not going to go through all these intended land use yes and facilities that were planning to hold my high school but i will i think that maybe highlight one or two the first is the center for agriculture perma culture and living technologies this would actually be  farm demonstration sites small scale demonstration sites to figure out what crops may work what innovation technology initiatives would work best in farming and doing it on an on a test basis to figure out what works and then being able to scale it on there another farms or elsewhere in the islands conference facilities creating conference facilities for thought leaders on issues around water energy homelessness affordable housing creating venue's where thought leaders can calm and we can talk about these issues from not just our head but our hearts and mark uses a frame a phrase called  whole tank so it's not just a think tank it's actually using your heart and the rest of what's available to us to look at solutions in a different way another area is the economic social environmental innovation entrepreneurial and maker center and this is an area where we are going to be working with startups creating an ecosystem of that success for them giving them an opportunity if they're if their energy interested in soil remediation or new technolog in agriculture creating an environment and the capital for them to bring their ideal solution and to market and that just not only benefits maui but the rest of the islands in the rest of the world at different phases and so what i've laid out are three distinct phases that we have in our development plan and we just all go through i'm going through detail but i kind of highlight a few things in our summary of development the first phase is we're going to really focus on site investigation and planning we're going to spend about six months looking at what is on the site looking at the soils looking at the water situation looking at infrastructure making sure that the integrity of the existing buildings that we'd like to rehab is actually there and spending six months looking in investigating to make sure we understand the land so we can better serve the land and also engage the community during this process because this is silly to spend there for a very long time there's a lot of knowledge out there but also engage the community to better understand what the community what they would like to see here and how that can influence our program and so phase one is first site investigation and then the second part of phase one is planning a lot of predevelopment planning engineering engaging the architects in a project like this where we are incorporating generative systems this could be very heavy on engineering because buildings the whole purpose of creating a regenerative campus is that the campus works together as one whole system and so we're not just serving one building in the system s building but creating systems within the entire campus community and so will be heavy early on in phase one we're also going to be able given the our new standing in the integrity of the buildings at the existing is to do you have some early uses and such is going head in having some demonstration farms and bringing in some sort of remediation companies that are interested in the soil remediation challenge we also think we can actually currently host workshops festivals and events on site and we also believe that early in the process convening think tanks and and getting input from the communities can be very beneficial  so that is phase one phase two is actually once we have all the knowledge and we've done the preliminary planning base to skin to focus first on the preservation of the existing historic campus  here we're going to incorporate the patsy team in reception center space for all the archives of the friends of old mary high school also given that the commercial kitchen is actually part of the old historic campus as well will roll out the commercial kitchen there is a maker's lab that's a part of the campus where historically has been a part of the campus and so we will repurpose that so we have the local entrepreneurs have access to tools and manufacturing  manufacturing type tools will also incorporate a co working space early on for all these for local into entrepreneurs that are interested and ag tech and various other technologies and then once we're done housing and what have you so that is generally the plan and the third phase is we'll have once we have the the environmental build out we'll need funds and we'll need will really focus on operations programming getting input from the community as to what programming they would like to see so those are the three distinct phases of development  a little bit about teach development i'm naca you're already heard the bio's but our core management team we have significant experience in regenerative planning and design finance construction management agriculture real estate and community development and given the intended uses and kind of the complex use project we've brought people with these different expertise and the economic resources to make this project happen and i think with that i will turn it over to glen mason thanks thanks jason i was just thinking that it was ten years ago this month that i got a call from barbara asking me to take a look at the old the old dicky school building to see if it could be saved and we put together a team that included a structural engineer walter and maybe not to your surprise but a little bit to my surprise we found out that it was very salvageable and the visit you and i took to the site with ricky was quite an eye opener for me we i've done a lot of preservation work over the years and the magic of this site and it's not just the buildings it's the trees it's the open space it's everything else is pretty evident to anyone who's ever been there  i come from this from a little bit of a different direction in that i really get the importance of saving that site from a cultural point of view and from the point of view of the history of maori and it also became very obvious as we worked on a little bit more we did the report we actually did when so far as to do construction documents to stabilize and s if by putting a roof on it and some floors and whatnot in that original dicky school building and what became very obvious is some of the things have been commented on before it takes a lot to do to work this you don't you can't just fix a roof and the thing that's that is very important about the teach proposal is that it thinks big enough if you think small you can't do anything with this site and that's really really important it's going to take you know a million dollars plus to get utilities in before you can do anything that has to be part of a much larger project and that's the good thing about and one of the main things about the teas teach proposal is it's not it's not trying to do a little it's trying to do a lot that's very important a specific comment about the site in general it's not just the dickie building we need to understand that we have a school there there's at least ten significant buildings there and at least eight of those i believe are reusable and can be preserved we need to study them a lot more to verify that ok but there are available one of the one of the funding sources for this is preservation tax credits we believe that the central part of the campus is a historic district and should be placed on the register as a historic district which will open up funding sources through preservation tax credits this is one example of thinking about things more holistically so there are some facilities on the site that will need to be demolished they are pretty bad and there's a couple that are marginal that we were really will need to study but there's a lot there that can be used and can be used fairly quickly so go to the next slide and i am not going to be cheated death with all of those words but there are two parts of this that i think we should probably talk about one is this regenerative development process it isn't only about nuts and bolts and technology it's about how do we capture the important cultural and historical aspects not only of the site but of mali that's part of this planning process it's a multi stakeholder engagement that's really critical and the other thing that i kind of want pick up on in this list of things is the nature to inform the structuring and integration of etc etc etc what that really means here on this is that nature will demand a creative approach to this we don't have water how are we going to get it we can drill a well but there we've got other problems associated with that we're going to have to think creatively about the way we get water use water process water in everything else and so what i'm really saying here is that the site will demand the kinds of things that we're proposing as part of the teach proposal and anybody who works up there is going to have to do something like what we're proposing so we're thinking big we have to think big or nothing will ever happen to  chunky who is the president of our board of directors and also keoki raman a member of our board of directors both of whom are here in support of this proposal as well you've been provided with a copy of a letter that is signed by all of the directors of friends of old molly high school in support of the proposal of teach development and while the letter i think very well outlines are our unmitigated support of this proposal i think you also need to know about the enthusiasm that the board of directors has for this proposal we had the opportunity not only to review the proposal that was submitted to the office of economic development but we also spent an entire afternoon with part of the management team of teach development and sat down with them across the table ask them questions and listen to their vision for this proposal and the board of directors was thrilled with what they had to say with their answers to the questions in what the vision that they have for the future of the old molly high school campus in twenty zero seven may or are a coward during his first term came to us and said i like what you're doing here but we need a plan and we need to know what the end game is for this campus if we're going to proceed with the preservation in the redevelopment of the campus and so the mayor made available with the approval of county coun grant which allowed us to perform from a study into a master plan for the old molly high school campus and with the guidance of chris hart and partners a series of meetings were held the community to look at this campus and ask the community members what do you see for the future and what kind of a facility at this campus would best serve the people of this community and what came out of it was a master plan the teach development plan not only incorporates all of the important aspects of that original master plan but it enhanced as them and actually makes this a vision something that's economically viable and environmentally friendly and because of that i feel confident that we can say that this proposal not only has the support of the board of directors of friends of high school certainly supportive the alumni of the school but also the support of the community who originally came up with this vision and shared it with us in workshops and community meetings and we have seen that vision now take  form with the participation and guidance of this group and i think it's important that the community's voice in all of this be acknowledged as well because we are certainly excited and thrilled about what is to come on this campus through the  great assistance of teach development thank you know we'd like to be able to do is work with you make this project a success work with a friend of all my eyes go to anybody else within the community to make this a success thank you council on a we start down the line so that we can have a more fashionable organized method hard copy and i so i went on the online version and it and this is don't appear there as well so i wonder if we can get copies of the missing pages stuff  other infrastructure challenges chillies there roadways etc what are you expecting from the county with respect to any of the solutions to any of these issues kind of hope we might get a little bit of roadway help to that last piece that's kind of a mess but other than that anything on the site we see as being our responsibility we intend to drill a well we do not know what that well we're going to part of the investigation phase is to find out what the water is like there there's been you know all sorts of concerns that the we might need a stripping well or something like that in order to clean the water but no one can tell you tell us what that water is really like so part of that initial investigation phase is to learn more about what's there to do a test well for example to find out what we need to do no matter what we do we're going to be as part of our work maximizing capturing water on this or using water on the say recycling as much as possible because i mean that's the essence of what we're trying to retain here is to try to create a say that has you know that doesn't need to pump very much water out of the ground but we will we will need to do that so there are facility there  utility challenges the good thing is electrically we've got more than enough power in the city of amazingly enough although the electrical engineer who has been in that room in the city wouldn't walk in there again without making some changes to it the power actually to the site is is ample so we have water and of course sewer utility issues that we're going to need to deal with but that's on site and we're not asking the county for any help on that and again we're not looking at site of a system such as water being a standalone system different from agriculture and agricultural waste not to be used as energy so you know anything that would be considered a waste for looking at how to recycle up cycle turn into energy or looking at how to conserve and purify water through grey water and black water recycling systems and catchments we're looking at how the built environment can be low cost storage so that things that are intermittent like sold are in a way and can now be used to charge batteries so they will have power at night and and energy security so those are some of the things that we're looking at also putting in place from their county potentially seeking some collaboration with the county around putting a base finance system in place so that we can which is not just for us but for the entire county to adopt pa finance this property utilizing pace as part of our financing strategy in me does add to that because there is in the state enabling legislation that permits space financing honolulu's could be rolling it out in the near term and we feel like this is a perfect opportunity to collaborate with the county to come up with some innovative financing not just for our project but for all commercial projects and pace financing specifically finances energy efficiency improvements in water efficiency  that's ideal for where we are right now in what i think it's also i mean a lot i work on pace transactions all of the country the state of connecticut their green bank uses this as a revenue generator their issuing bonds revenue bonds not general obligation bonds but revenue bonds and it's a profit center for them because they're collecting issuer fees on revenue bonds so it is an opportunity i know other joint powers authorities in khushi and corporation shepherd is that we have a six month look that we're actually not even taking possession for the first six months we want to make sure because we have a fiduciary obligation to our financing partners not to take possession of something we don't know about so we're using that first six months to really get investigate the soil's the water that utilities and what have you after that six months we have an opportunity if there are issues that we don't know about their old reports they give us indications of the condition of the soil in the water so we have them but they need to be updated they haven't they have been updated for ten years and so based upon these investigations we have an opportunity if we feel like there are significant challenges to come back and potentially we look at that schedule but we do feel the condition of the buildings in the plant spoke about this the integrity of this store campus we can actually reuse a lot of those buildings right away and so that it we can do some adaptive reuse right away with really more cosmetic type nonstructural modifications to the building and so a lot of the uses and we've agreed there's some performance milestones for frankly that the county and negotiated for your protection to make sure that we're performing but we all agree we don't know what we don't know until we get in there and investigate we haven't operated come back and say listen this water situation is a lot more serious than that report indicates from ten years ago we need to dig eight hundred  who knows what can happen but we feel like a lot of the use we can incorporate right away thank you but it is you know it's aggressive but we also feel like we can roll it out in phases in each project there are lot of different uses and each the campus i did during my era so it's a special place i would support that and i like the vision of where you would like to go for me it's about the  and what is the expectations of the county if we move the agreement forward so gentlemen that represent the teach component my understanding is what the county is agreeing with you is we're going away about two hundred thirty one pows in the us where of annual rent in exchange for one dollar a year lease to the documents part from the financial point of my understanding from your hand though that you shared and it's interesting i got to the one page that my colleagues don't have but yes i don't know what and this is you're speaking of but there is in the lease a general cabinet too and it's it's really i think it's we will reason we cooperate with the facilitat that's that's really the extent of any covenant of the county and the actual lease itself i don't have the exact language but we can pull it but that would be the scope of we asked you know time time kills projects and so we did not want that to be the situation here so we did ask the county said we are collaborating with you you are a partner to help build all this necessary infrastructure and the different components of the project what we don't want we're definitely going to have to go through that process we're going to have to we are integral to do says getting a planning firm on board that is going to be leading us through the discretionary permit process week there is no way around it we're not you know we the only thing that we're really asking for is actually the continued support of the county in moving forward were not asking for any exemptions from any planning and zoning requirements we know we're going to have to go through all of the typical processes that we would have to go through for a permit is so different all read that as being like hey we want an exemption from the other thing we're not asking for that you know if you are and gentlemen when he says that we have by approving we agree to the following i want to know what we are but we're still going to you we are green too because at this point in time i don't know what we've agreed to so i'm asking you what is your understanding of these things regarding expedited so we have spent time with our departments to find out you know about the zoning this is interim zone and property everything that they have suggested that they're going to do is is ok on that so and and they do not need to go to state landi is they do need this approval friend b l n r for the lee because that's a standard procedure and that is already with b l and as far as the other things that there's no all it was was just say a spirit of collaboration with the departments to get permits and the only thing they asked for specifically was for as to when the project was complete  completion when it's going to be used to pave the road and it specifically in the lease says as funds are budgeted for so you as as the person to approve the budget would have to approve the funds to pay for that road so we have not obligated the county specifically for any any thing particular that would have to be done out there ok and no i just we just want a lot of this project so the interesting thing is i know this is well the majority is state length correct there's a portion of colony lab where you have a cake component regarding provide a little bit of relief if this was again in the spirit of collaboration if the county were buying any relief now that quite frankly it's not a lot it's not a huge sum but the county was willing to provide that relieve of advil or in taxes for the first i think it was like three years or five hundred seventy five for a limited period of time then we built it into the lease and so that is something that we did ask if you and i appreciate it but you already were going away hundred thirty thousand dollars of rent you this standard language but are you aware of any potential issues under force mature conditions that i am not  into the lease that we would like for the county to pave that second part from the campus so there's a component from the campus to baldwin that is currently just a dirt road but it is subject to appropriation under the budget so  at the same understand enough interrupt so that if they propose something on the entitlement it would make sense to cover their areas of concern thank you and that's the type of collaboration we're interested in phase one there is a six month to your site investigation doing all the studies and then there is twelve to eighteen months for the predevelopment architecture the master plan in the engineering which is going to be very intensive on this project but during that time given the condition of the existing buildings we will do some immediate adapter for use because some of the buildings aren't open to their great shape friends of all maori high school they use them as the early on it's going to be self funding and private equity later when we are working on the preservation of the stork building we will bring in historic preservation tax credit investor to be an investor in that project and so we'll be looking at different components of the project separately because in the financing markets there is it you can't just walk to make america safe on my entire project because you have so many different uses and buildings will be  financing this entire project kind of project by component by component and looking at ok this is historic president this historic preservation of the building of the of the  you and the process is just individuals need to go through for their actual land use and what they hope to do becomes quite a cumbersome it's the navigation know definitely that's another opportunity for collaboration and unfortunately we have to architects on our team including glen who is a state store preservation specialist another architect who works on regenerative communities and understands these issues as they come up and so  we also have are and will be working with a number of local consultants who understand the process as well but i do think it is an opportunity given the unique uses to collaborate with the county and the various departments and they've been very accommodating today so well the uses that we're seeking most of them have already been put into the master plan done by friends of all valley high school and there's already some president for preexisting uses on the campus so for example you know there's a cafeteria there well we can then use that as president for a restaurant and there was a precision machine shop there so he is that is president for makers the lab there was already you know a convening hall which we can use as a presenter for our conference facilities there are those already festivals and events and workshops that happen there so again there is a lot of precedent for the uses that where you want to do and is well on our to have a collaboration in our partnership with a county let me mark let me jump in here we did spend some time talking to planning to planning firms locally and their interpretation of the interim zoning question was similar to what tina was articulating know that said we need to get the whole idea behind this six month period preliminary idea was that the that this would work well if it turns out that it will then we will know that at the end of the six months that we will know the way forward in some great detail you know with subject a part of that sublease as far as you know paying a little bit forward if you we get a percentage of the outer world but that was not our original discussion or negotiation and the sub leasing will be necessary in order for this to make to make this an economically viable project and while the county is giving as a lease for a dollar a year at an estimated fifty six million dollar investment in to this property and you know as a draft it's not the easiest property because of the lack of utilities the environmental contamination on the property  the location but it does have some really unique benefits because of the uses that have have proceeded you are coming into this project so you know that was not our intent potential partners but this is this project given its different uses our whole our are whole essence in our approach is one of collaboration and working with local groups such as the makers group working with commercial kitchen incubate or is working with other community stakeholders and bringing them into the fold to make this truly a community impact project and  this statement also even though we are a primarily for profit from the standpoint of developing the facilities we also will be collaborating with many non profits for a community benefit as well as creating our own nonprofit so that we can provide jobs for the disadvantaged so that we can provide education to the disadvantaged so that we can help in ways that are not profit area where they can work on mental health and substance abuse is sure it's almost if i can take that one i've actually developed a permanent supportive housing for formerly homeless folks who are frequent users of the county's health system and it's actually it's an entire wellness community as well recreated because the issue of homelessness is very complex it's multi faceted and you need a support of an entire ecosystem and so the project that i worked on and my work in on homeless issues is we created a home we've created an apartment community for seventy units we brought in a medical clinic we brought in a teaching instructional kitchen a community garden service providers warehousing formally homeless persons that we need to create an entire ecosystem and so when i did hear about this proposal early on that this is a site that would be potentially earmarked for a homeless services cent and my initial reaction based on my experience in working with a lot of homeless organizations is it's a lot and i applaud the intention it's a little too remote for that but to address the issues around this you need to bring a lot of different subject matter experts you need to bring in the local nonprofits and people who have boots on the ground i mean that is you know the in the homeless count understanding who the homeless population is is it understanding bringing the experts together and what what i envision because i did this in a different form is i brought some people from the federal government the state government and the county to listen to what people on the ground are experienc because you know if you think about our form of government you have people in these in these positions that are creating policy that have no clue what's going on on on our streets on our beaches and our parks and so what we did is we visit i know the he's the director of the u s inner agency on homelessness and his whole taze the homeless are for the country his whole task is to work with the various agencies addressing homelessness and come up with an allocation of resources that is smart in official he has a tough job because i don't see it as far as efficient yet but what i do see is an opportunity for engagement policymakers working directly with decision makers can be informed as well of what's going on ok along those lines are there going to be any new affordable or transitional housing provided on the property at all so we will have worker housing and we do component of affordable housing ok and lastly at least on my list of questions that i had after looking at this you know you've got a lot of acreage there you looking at doing some things like that or kitchens fresh off the farm food is going to take you know five hundred acres to do right and to scale right what the teach center is looking to do is to be you know that place where people can come get training who potentially are disadvantaged who do want to work and then can get jobs it's a place where entrepreneurs inventors and makers can come together and create and prototype their inventions ok and i'm a little stuck on the two things the road in the exhibit eight it basically says less or commits to upgrading improving manner that allows as for recommended traffic flows to and from the premises for the purposes uses and volumes anticipated pursuer into traffic survey to be conducted by let's see so it looks like three or four roads that you're looking out for us to maintain admitted at least some of those we already do so i'm not sure and then i noticed in the least provision it did say subject to appropriate funding last lastly this is more to miss rasmussen did you get that the whole thing about the fifteen acres from the planning department because it's my understanding and especially working on it in planning committee that the parcel size has to be fifteen acres or less not the use case that that i am actually just talked to mr spence yesterday and that's that's what he the hundred fifty seven pages along with our p and what have you it has a section in here that states otherwise i mean at least for my initial looking over and it was hinting to else i think the first or maybe maybe maybe it was for all my high school but the first at twenty years with the guarantee of additional two twenty's which equals to sixty so i better to just make it sixty years it's much cleaner and also we did discuss it with the department of land and natural resources they will allow up to a sixty five year lease so they were ok with that as well ok i just wanted clarification on that chair and also i saw in the county communications sixteen dash one zero two i thought something with asking co county for five million for the first year to start and then from there are now it's like your seed started out money from us no is that not correct ok i thought i had read that somewhere i'll make it official of models or something of that sort of what you folks are proposing here so it doesn't follow up with an answer to that and i you know i mean i love all the stuff you're saying and it really hits on every single topic and subject people want to see here but it doesn't really go and this look at this this is where we do it this is where it's been proven this is where it's been built so actually if you look at potentially certain university campuses self improvement centers the places that are doing co working you'll find examples of this in various places council number but unfortunately nobody that i know of has actually built this yet which makes this so impactful and so important and doing it here on maui which is an island at that but you know islands have ecosystems that tend to be more fragile and ecological destruction you know is accelerated it's it is a place where we can actually showcase the impact on twenty three acres and make a real difference here but to my knowledge and to the people on our team this is really a premier and unique community and really show the relationship between all the uses all the engineering and all the systems work with in the building and within the uses so it creates an ecosystem where it is a little bit more it's a lot more sustainable  but the individual uses yeah i mean for example i use my i've developed over a thousand units of housing in all of fordable creating communities and you know i am i am a self professed health nut and so what i want to create is wellness opportunity for wellness because i'm not you know wellness everyone is wellness sometimes people can't afford it some people don't have access to it and so we're trying to create a campus project here that gives folks an opportunity for wellness and well i use that term broadly because wellness means a lot of different things it's not only personal health it's community health and health of the land so there are the different components of the project that we can point to but this is this mixture of the uses and how we're integrating that is unique ok very good and it was interesting you know when your last pages in the r h p that you smiley because of the l o eight s lifestyles of health and sustainability demographic and culture of the people when i represent that area you know the so i just thought that was interesting that in your bad but the aloha if you want to maybe expand upon that i mean it's it's it's folks who are interested in health healthy lifestyles and for those that don't know what the acronym aloha submarines it means lifestyles council in cochrane i told her a story about how the tide pools where i grew up were destroyed from being the most amazing of living system to completely dead in a period of do something we've got to do something to make molly i thriving and beautiful environmental example right can be done right and that's really at the core of all of our purpose and mission here so it is about creating a lifestyle health and sustainability but it's ma ma you know it's serving the land and if we serve the land we actually get to thrive if we don't serve the land of we destroy the ecosystems we will perish and thank you for your comments and this is i mean your project and it is visionary and is a tall order and is taking is going to take a lot of money so just one and i the questions have been asked in regards to i guess the whole sustainability of just that of how you can keep yourselves going sixty years you know how and keep  thriving and you know sufficient without having to come here for any funding to keep yourselves going and now and of course infrastructure on the chair of that committee here and so we've discussed roads but in this  they lease it also mentions utilities and so county roads and utilities in what regards though the utilities that we already give service to it but i read it's been forty five years since it's been upgraded so you definitely with this technology and things you guys are shooting for you're not going to make it happen on existing infrastructure in utilities so are you saying that you're looking towards to us to do this upgrades because it's on your no word are the only thing that we're looking for is collaboration and helping us expedite permitting and you know to skip over anything declines point and you know  for the paving and maintenance of the road subject to appropriations i think what we're really asking for is that the road that's already there be maintained and there is a frankly there's about a two hundred yard or three hundred yard lengths that it starts just before the school that's a rock but other than that i mean we're just asking for the road to be maintained and that's that's all we're asking for  i don't think that that's unreasonable because not on our property ok but if we can so you could still get to the property right now and that doesn't change no matter what so i think the whole thing about the road is to just recognize that fact and if language needs to be clarified then we should clarify that language but utilities once again utilities are our responsibility ok they're not the counties responsibility ok very good and next question atmosphere water does that mean rain but as far as far as i understand it i haven't been there but are more neither using atmospheric water which means that it actually pulls moisture out of and looks like some hurdles and challenges you will be facing with regards to water i guess the old reports do show from the old reports of contamination from surrounding ag fields and lead paint of in there might be interesting concept atmosphere water use that was a fancy way of seeing rain catch but thank you very much for that explanation and gentlemen thank you for your you know just really grand ideas and visions thank you for being here thank you so much for your scarf mr cox that you wish to chair still stuck on the road i heard at some point in either the presentation or in a discussion with one of the other members is that you're to looking at  the dirt road from the school up to mark a while that you're looking to have that pavement as as well just as i don't have the lease in front of me but i do if i do recall it saying it paving maint to appropriations and so that was in the lease that's pretty much building a road too so yeah ok thank you thank you we see on page twenty five of your document award least to teach june first two thousand and fifty obviously past that the so when you answered mr white question are you still going to stick to your polls proposed training people is presented or is everything going to be adjusted accordingly to fifteen months later everything will be adjusted based upon the date of the executed lease was and i guess just a council member count just a dress we actually the road access from highway is sufficient but because of potential traffic issues we thought it best to at least include it in the lease but the project works with the road from highway but it wasn't asked in my senses to that based upon our success based upon the adoption and use  facilities it will either be or third or not for the county to make the appropriation or not and it really is in your court to do so and you know i just want to also say you know as to jason's point you know time is money time potential is a deal killer and we're going to try to get this done as soon as possible and you know we too by this point have to get on the land and put you know boots on the land and do our research do our studies and then we will have a much better idea of time tables cost and expense this is about as good as we could do right now on what we know and we appreciate that and  other issues you know i'm not sure exactly how the situation here maybe jason those but you know you know the construction projects are going to go much higher in terms of cost it has been in the so we're using correct we're using the six months to actually investigate the site which will be self funded or private equity and then we move to phase two which is the kind of predevelopment planning engineering and so having funds to to pay for destroy just one clarifying comment my understanding is that the teach is a for profit entity not a nonprofit that is correct thank you just w here i have a question in regards to if you're going to use a six month period you know it's under the lease agreement for the look for us to examine the property to see if it's feasible  if you're going to be starting it at the time of the six month period is going to start at that time of the execution of the lease how are you i guess put into consideration the landed deal in our approval because are you going to wait until they get all our approval of the lease because that takes some time they can add to have a board meeting and although they if they've said that you know they've sent a letter saying that ok where we are considering it you know it's poem an early approve it but they still need to go through a board meeting and whenever that is it could be two three months down the line after we housing in their retreat house is that going to be a hotel or is this are these students or retreat housing is that going to be a rental it is not a hotel and in fact our intention is not really retreat but for it to be used for housing for education for certification for workshops for people coming to visit to learn about regenerative systems and designs take classes and promote culture so that that is our intention in the work or housing are for people that are actually working on site ok not like executive retreat passing this out but we have other questions that need to be answered that that formally or or set forth on the floor i'd like to have those those letters sent out and responded to so probably if you if the department and corporation council kids respond to these different questions before the next i guess the first reading checking with staff etc i found out that yes we do i would like to withdraw my fifteen acre question because i think that's a standard practice that we're doing so i'm going to thank you so we still have our corporation entry there was one more with regards to the roads is that right perhaps the shepherd shepherd yes i believe the other question had to do with  and that was mr couch oh mr collins question ok why don't we different i'm going to go ahead and defer this matter just for the next meeting i'll put it all could it back up for the next meeting and that should be plenty of opportunity that i think two weeks from now to get those answers and then we will mr chairman if and i support your recommendation i'm i'm supportive but i would like some quality and clearly what each party will bring to the people doing i see positive things what are the parties expectations and obligations very very clearly written out so that there is no misunderstand