right welcome to the october first two thousand and twelve months or a commissioner is meeting welcome public is there any public comments or things that are not on the agenda now ok we'll go right into it so at the last meeting we talked about the why rate structure and some some substantial changes that need to happen because of the debt load that's coming but also because of nfortunately i am facing or today was minute it was my first day in my new office in my ear so it's been a little chaotic the past couple of weeks and i have not done anything with the committee because of the because of the changes in my my professional job and commitments in my personal life so so i would like to get that now that we're getting settled and bruce i hear you agreed to be part of this this  months max and i envision us meeting maybe two three times and i'm going to support in getting some people from the business community which everybody talk to me about putting something in the rather newsletter which i have to do a blurb because i think it's important to get the business committed community community and but it's not this is not something that's going to drag out for a year or more because honestly the changes need to happen in advance of the fiscal year fifteen which we're a year and a half away from that so  water commission member so it's it's not it doesn't have to be sort of more and as a public meeting i mean if we have to do it three of them we have to do it that way but by you know i respect bruce's other interests harold you have the same interests for that and i mean i still i also would like to meet i met with any one on one about the rates and i think it was a really productive meeting she got to understand sort of where i was coming from and i still would like to do that one on one separate from the committee so you can understand cannot be part of the committee where where and what i'm talking about the sort of what the issues are bigger than kind of what i've alluded to in the meetings because i think it's i think it's important for you guys to understand because you guys also interact with the community so if people have questions you'll be able to answer them and understand what what the what the issues that we're facing but also the solutions that are proposing so so i guess harold will be the other committee member and harriet riggs and katherine  culture has agreed to be i'm on the committee and i spoke with harriet last week she's away for this first week of october but i knew i was moving my new offices so i knew i wouldn't be doing anything this week so probably into the middle of next week and community as to what's going on and understand the changes that are proposed and sort of how it relates to that and to the budget to future work that that needs to be done and to work that was approved by a bond you know three four years ago and how that impacts our budget how changes like septic revenue could impact our budget so it's really it's really getting buy in from the community  on the expenses happen in twenty fifteen fiscal year twenty fifteen and so that's when the revenues are going to need to meet those so it's a year and a half to kind of the rubber is going to meet the road but the preference would be to  land and buildings and case of highways it's highways in excess of five thousand dollars what you see before you is what was done last year with a couple of small modifications i've updated some of the had been scheduled to replace the pickup truck this year that they pushed off a year you want to push it off further you know to what your own five years ahead to fifteen years  typically smaller over a priority so it really is just a very rough starting point so i can go through some of what we've got here for the benefit of the public if  like sharks and i think for the fact that i'm sure we bring getting to waste water and water because there is to really two separate funding mechanisms for each even though it's a combined bill for replacement it's basically i think one hundred feet of sewer line that goes from roughly the top of the keys down to the corner and in front of green sea systems is the only section of sewer that needs to be corrected on east main street we did the rest of that sewer we lined it two years ago so we've already applied as part of the larger east main street project this qualifies for a revolving loan from from the state so we've applied for that this could actually be done outside of the rest of the project since it's relatively small in comparison and it could be done sort of out of phase because it's got its own funding and it's possible to replace that sewer line without having to get into the larger projects we could do that sooner we don't have to evelyn just to be clear revolving loan fund is really on the list but because this is not a high priority project meaning it doesn't rank high it's not a significant public health risk is the likelihood of it getting funded for many many years is slim to none so so the the law money is is wouldn't be nice but i would not rely on that as far as our funding goes  mini project that could be accomplished other items we have an annual appropriation for collection system upgrades for the sewer collection system which could be anything from short sections of lining to sections of replacements of the collapse and that sort of thing if we didn't spend it i think it possible be possible to fund a reserve if we needed to do that and do we spend that every though usually we did last year ok this section treatment facility maintenance fifteen thousand dollars we call that capital because it generally has to do with expensive repairs to the facility to do their pumps or motors run that sort of thing that can be considered capital repairs and then of course the pickup truck which will now put on a two thousand  water system we have no current scheduled village ever structure upgrades the select word last year sort of said east means street was a priority kendall will argue that also want to try to buy a tractor with a backhoe which would be a new item they don't currently have a tractor and the structure would do what control we we talk some about that and that might change depending on what happens with the contact project if we can get their contacts project that's in the works for any contact on a new entryway in underground power and a standalone generator that would change the tractor which isn't a problem but it's one of those things i'm sure the water supply would prefer us to have them plus there's a few things that happen during the year small occasions that we can do the back of capital items on here and for this like part it just i think of other towns that i've worked with who kind of have maintenance you know they have to quit and then departments rent it so instead of renting it from wherever tractor supply or there is a water reservoir upgrade study that we would like to undertake going to know if we need to do that this year not with a rough estimate of forty five thousand dollars for engineering to do that i don't think it's come down parking lot there for that it's a relatively simple job based on the person we've got this past summer for brown's corps i think possible to do it for fifty five replacement items we usually put a twenty five thousand dollars capital allocation for water system repairs yeah and the well how scoring contact i'm very sorry i don't have a price for that but that's yeah those that are which i mean there are big ticket items there are things there are there water lines but i think after what you just told us is that that the tank needs to be a top priority for for planning purposes i did want to want to know maybe if so the pickup truck i know you're going to be able to have another five years of useful life out of that but what would be the value of putting you know putting that into our capital if we're to develop a spreadsheet with this is what we want to do and this is how much it's going to cost is how much we have to put away from here so that we didn't have a twenty five thousand dollars one time expenditure that we have some money today to pay for that maybe  current budgets and where we're looking over the next couple of years which would then inform our rates so so having this discussion now about what's important what's you know maybe we can where we can find savings now you know with some of these collection system expenditures you know maybe we can bank that and use it towards towards to put in a capital fund and then have that available to us when we need to but there's the types of conversations that sounds like this that this group  had you know what's where where you're going to feelings on on capital on capital savings and then knowing that our take could fail tomorrow and that's a million plus to replace that you know at first i was like ok i mean you know these are things we can handle the next couple years but knowing that we have to throw in a million plus for printing storage tank that's that changes that changes the picture so we have ten minutes left so i don't there was another piece it was a seceded with its capital budget program but that's kind of related to it the only the only comment i wanted to make just on the capital budget and program the spreadsheet is that you have to give the names of the loans flipped so w p l is a water system planning loan that's with the drinking mana program r f o r drinking water are if one's are clean water will for up to fifty thousand dollars in forgiveness from the department of new york for if outside money is used and because this this was funded is this system will most likely be eligible for up to fifty thousand dollars in the in the forgiveness so but that's good that's good to point out because we can think about it going forward in anything right once the project is complete night expected to be c usage was forty one thousand six hundred gallons because they got it fixed last week is made that we just we just don't give we just don't get credits and but there was there was only two or three of us the last meeting so i wanted to know what what people felt now that we know how much it is go with water from a stream or river then we get back to richmond we don't call that water wash our tanks and pumps with clean water from the hydrant we feel that this protects or investment in the  we've kind of get kind of propose that maybe we were eight years ago a good case in that case in point is that is that we get a bill is for the previous month the beginning of the next month we have our meetings at the beginning of the month and we don't pay them to the next month and they're they're already past due so we change our meeting dates to the sec to the third one and the third monday of the month so basically the second select board meeting of the month then we would have an opportunity to get all of the bills and so they could get paid on time and i wanted to know what everybody felt about that so to still just one meeting a month i'm not proposing that now we meet twice still only one meeting among but this time it would be the third wednesday or third monday why do i get stuck on  i don't this we don't want to skip we could have a special meeting next on the first of november to pay the warrants that have come in during october and it would just be to pags so we just need a quorum it would be really just to pay it and then we'd have our regular meeting on in the middle of november so the third the third is that how does that sound so we started this lee immediately we have a quick five minute pay the warrant on the first november november fifth  before voting day and then we have our real one the third the third monday of november and then the third monday there are no do we have to do any kind of changes to our by laws or to  that that would be better for our b might not have a quorum so we will do a regular meeting and the first of november regular getting this geoff yes we'll do a quick quickie the first december and then i'm all do that the regular  ok and then when they were there any changes to the meeting minutes i didn't have any minutes welcome to the october first two thousand and twelve position and you've previously had a chance to take a look at his resume and wholeheartedly recommend for the position of trade or to fill out the remaining term which expires on march sixth two thousand before they changed over to people's a few years ago and i left them about a year and a half ago and since then i've been working for pleasure jacobs and south for a long ten managing mostly retirement plans that with john now and kim i think two or three times on the school checks that the county checks and the the bills and everything it seems to be at least right now again i don't i'm coming in from the i don't know anything that happened in the past so i did everything seems right now pretty organized where i'm just kind of almost a third set of august looking over everything making sure everything matches up and sending most of the  go smoothly and there is one change that's been proposed which is a change in the payment schedule of instead of two hundred i think it was up to three hundred all right so now we will enter into executive session in order to become a town council has joined us this evening we will keep to the schedule even though we're running a little bit late here my intention is definitely to wrap up and reopen at a quarter of a system that everybody who's who is interested in coming to the to the rest of the meeting knows when and when if you want to go out and get a bite teeters of the you know when you come advised that we that under the terms the application we must wait for pretty much everything and tell the time that the feds announced the award however the slick board wants to do much as we can to get ready for that point and so what we would like to do is direct the town council to provide some guidance on the preparation of the purchase and sale agreement so that we're ready at that point to develop p about things to me want to talk about when we get him ok so i think just to let you know your emotion needs to be my recommendation is i know the problem you don't want to start discussing different standing money and not spending money wisely there is only certain amount of money in the budget for the legal side of things for the time it reached and the bio reimbursement from the federal government and the state so you want to spend discussed this outside of it and not public forum but the town and the slight or is not pursuing this or preservation of the home and has not been pursuing  to make a couple of minor corrections and also to add saddler better road is a private road number seventy five we need a public hearing a motion to open the public amending schedule a the richmond road name and second properly we've been issuing a temporary certificate of occupancy to people if they request it without actually having his own provision for it you know we've been charging people twice one one  dollar bill for a c e o and one for a dollar amount for a temporary see this really just lowers the price of the real c e o down to ten dollars which is a recording from so if you need a certificate of occupancy from now it's only going to cost you ten dollars if you request a temporary certificate we make we charge you sixty dollars as an incentive to complete the project because we're socially allowing you move into the space before it's complete and there is a section in the new regulations or stamp which is what the t c oh so that's an important change and it's also i think changing the permit fees per square foot and then you also have a memo requesting the consideration of changing the pay by increasing the hiring salary by one dollar per hour to seventeen dollars per hour and also  justing existing employees up in an effort to try to improve retention of officers and it also we have a suggestion that since we're down to one officer now and it's more than likely it will be done on one officer at some point next year due to the natural moving moving up through other departments if the police chief was able to identify two candidates to go through the academy were actually there they're trained already one is and one will be good we temporarily go up to five patrol officers for a period talk to exceed six months or so so that's a lot small but sco through the regular budget first and chief budget if you could go through your line items to discuss ok sorry i basically just went with the at the standard three percent across the board for the sorry so that didn't change uniforms i did add about five hundred hours uniforms or more more expensive we saved a little bit last year i increased by one thousand dollars of that because you know the things that we need for the office just keep going up it could be anything from the gloves we have to order the barrier computer office i look the same right now we have gotten the three new computers last year these are the computers in the office so those should be good they're obsolete the day we got in but they should be good while we have achieved we have to pay every year so that's part of that fee ok still iffy things like that that we we have to pay that's all under the computer if we don't pay it we we don't have access to and that would that would be used for coke phone i like that six thousand dollars it's pretty consistent we were right about six thousand dollars last year they told us when we upgraded system for the computers that price should actually go down a little bit but we're only talking a couple dollars a month when we want to new computers police supplies i get rates that because you can see that we were we spent almost fifty two hundred hours last year that could be anything from the paper we get some of these things may overlap if he's always been one budget for instance like the like the barrier dollars we went through four pairs today three thirty today we dealt with two incidents back to back very drunk intoxicated now blood all over it next to the chief starter house at the same time back up on robin's mountain road again to take him into custody so that kind of stuff is that is i try to keep that some of this stuff you know right about where the spending according to what we got from the budgetary rounds last year much and the gas mileage on these cars a mind average and if you can believe the thing in that little estimate thing it's about just under twenty miles a gallon which is pretty good for a police  so you may have to understand something and hopefully that doesn't go up too much we shouldn't have a lot of repair work on the rest of the cars the two thousand town will be out of warranty next year but the two thousand and two compounds we got they have a three year warranty on them so we should be good with that anything we just had to recalls those are free other than gas and oil you know i buy have a lot of use for the oil or diesels police cruiser equipment that could be anything from a race that a little bit we had spend that much that year but i some things for the cruisers that we don't have we're short one stinger spike sat for one of the cars it's the things you threw out of the boat you had to play somebody somewhere there there are about five to six hundred dollars apiece for sure one set right now we're also sure one shotgun for a cruiser i don't think they ever had before while most of the guys are carrying their own they are fifteen or the forty in the cars right now they do qualify wi they purchase something that that they feel comfortable with but their standard police type issue for shotguns or use more for an estate for putting down animals know police cruiser tires i think this one because it's never going to twenty three or twenty three hundred last year but i think it's the cycle because you've got summer tires and where tires and you've got to buy em and it depends on when they come in when the billing cycle is and i think we missed one doing cycle last year killing when i first got here or tires so it could be as little as the twenty three hundred or we get stuck with two billing cycles because the two seasons it could be up to forty five dollars or five thousand just that some of that depends on when they get them and when the billing is done for the fiscal year that police cruiser purchased a cap that will have september also you've got to continue with the lease payment for the one we leased with a three year lease that will buy another cruiser probably another pallet and still have the money in there for the  the capital reserve i've never spent it since i've been here so i just mostly that goes to replacement like bars on cruisers is what we've been using for you know  that's why i didn't change it do we know how much money is in the reserve fund fornicate for police i don't have that number off the top of my head it's less than five thousand dollars so we have not been actively so we've been eating into that for other expenses right largely because we've been allocating twenty six thousand dollars for one cruiser every year and that essentially covers the cost of purchasing if that cruise ones we have in the new ones that are looking at also have a camera on the back seat so whatever they're doing in the back is recorded and and it as one of the  lights around the sirens on mine doesn't have all those features it has when the mikes on or secondary like the one in the car and the one on the on the office or i don't have all the stuff in this room but i can get away with it i think for the most part  i did put any questions on this guy i did what and for and the other capital one budget or the wish list whatever you want to call it fifteen thousand dollars for new cruiser cameras the cameras in these cars are ten years old they're pretty much all dime i got us an extra year last year by spending fifty dollars by going to get some junk from state police take it three of them make one work that one that we did that was now down so we have one spare left that will dare try to take and hopefully have enough good parts of it to make that one work and keep us going for least another i'm not sure i'm going to go to the state police just got a big grant and they bought two hundred something new they're called watch guard video cameras i said there are six thousand hours of peace w can probably work is out you know get a couple a year over two or three years but i'm not sure i want to spend six thousand i think i found this cup they just bought this one from out of california as a very similar stuff the bill is almost four grand for two guards that we supply the radios all that good stuff in the way starts you've got a grant to replace radios i haven't got yeah i applied for a grant they replace all the police radios through homeland security they initially denied degree because when i applied for the grant i asked for a narrow band called digital radio this county's pretty much going to digital which means i can even run my great current radio scanner because there's so much static with everybody's on digital that just drives out of the car so they  y because i've been covering the day shift two or three days a week instead of having some fellows and if we go to the five officer scenario that would also tend to decrease so you're never going to get rid of all the overtime because you have your call out one vacancy i guess today or saturday had jobs were going to cover the drug take back drug and that if there's four or five hours there every time they get called out or at least once in a twenty four hour period it's a minimum projection of what it will actually be given the staffing proposal that you know where over time seem to fluctuate a lot depends of what kind of calls you handle that particular fiscal year and you know the easier spread out a little bit a little bit now so that maybe there can be enough money in in there to pay to five groups or so we don't have to do is a line i just just uncertainty about putting more money away the capital to avoid clocker that we had stuck in the water to fourth of july when we had all the storms took out the engine that could have been for five grand right there it was such a piece of junk we just got rid of it for so you know had lived its life it had almost one hundred forty may be going under here shortly waterbury at sixty sixty three basically what i want to do is and money's not always the final objective but i need to stop this every two years jack is already told me in six months he's applying somewhere else so you can count on the next eight to twelve months will be gone and we'll have to live with there's no incentive for them to stay or so one has to get the pay up a little bit and then at the slight board agree with hopefully with me that you know i know this is going to take time and it's a three to five year project but you know a dollar an hour now on the starting back and maybe fifty cents an hour for the next three to five to school years just to get budget then you know contain and you know this is a standard three percent based on you know expenditure from last year so this is not included this is something for this like what we consider the other thing i want to change is also because you know they want to stay here casing taillights for thirty years but there's no promotional opportunity to take a corker corporals right we had go from three to five years or the bible three years which has an automatic pay raise for that created service ranks so there's some upward mobility sergeants rank would be at five years they'd have to have five years total service at least three of those with  ok my last request was to if i get both of these candidates viable candidates to hire two said jake is already told me in the next six months he's going to buy to go someplace else probably the state police february r scheduled to go to vote on the cattle which means that we could be down to two patrolmen and myself if we don't hire somebody right now i have one candidate these things and then at another decisions on that basis but i think this is all the context of the budget and development and so i've been looking for a recommendation from the from the administrator on that how to handle these in context to was to think about what other people and in our state government in our town government right right i don't know if it's still true but at one point the state police ok many years ago starting pay was lower than the state librar and i think that's a problem so i don't know if that's still the case but it's something to pay attention to not just what other towns are facing all right so we talked first  good to communicate that and not try to you know do it the bad way and talk certainly you know but it's like we're past to realize what it is that you do that you don't charge for maintenance not station maintenance doubled up to three thousand dollars for a couple of reasons one this station does need painting what part of the station most of the road but the way part of the station does the burning and we've got one quarter of this why don't you go ask them for the bill part of it is good i think on their on their end they've been undergoing a radio upgrade and they've been telling the towns that subscribe to their dispatch service that it's going to go on and they've been giving us cost us things but there's been some sort of the late and end of implementing their price structure so i think that has a lot to do with it if they've been telling us that because they're going to they have to invest in new equipment for their to go digital that their bodies prices are going to go so we've been budgeting accordingly from the schedules schedules  i do think that that's something that we might want to look at because i think that again they are they're putting their lives on the line and and and they're doing it for very little money and i think that we need to sh appreciate what they're doing and their bottom line increase is less than one percent so i think we could even afford to do something to think about i haven't talked to the firefighters when we did talk to them wash here about it when we brought up but i do think that the mileage think should be calculated even if they want to donate that mileage because if it's if we were to get people coming in who said i'm not going to do that we need to know exactly what that would cost us and budget for like that could come out of capitol capitol lives i mean i'm assuming we don't earmark for any genuine american but it can actually as long as capital reserve is not dedicated for a specific item so if capital reserve was established to replace engine number one then correct you couldn't take the money out of capital to fix the generator but if capital reserves established for general maintenance and replacement of assets then you can use it for it's so but it would be interesting to know what what in past years capital reserve was doubtless for now budgets are allowed to have a fifteen percent surcharge added to just their budget that would go into  general equipment replacement and reserve without having a specifically a specific annual appropriation for a certain amount of money so there is there is leeway in the budget for that for just for just here the modern library is interesting if you go and you want to become a librarian and libraries are now run out of the computer departments they are and librar services all the reference books are online all of the processes are online i mean there is literally at least fifty percent of the services that are offered by modern my peers are online and our library really needs to  up the pace as far as making those services really accessible to the patrons and so we're back i would like to be able to get someone on board who is specifically technically  savvy you know and rebecca does that a lot and you know when the staff have been trained for that but it's really it's a different library then it was you know the libraries were twenty years ago they are computer based  much of the information and and you know when people need to fill out their taxes or they need to apply for a job or anything that they need to do it's all online and so the library really wants to be able to support  them and we did just finish earth a teacher plan which the trustees will be on this coming week and definitely people felt you know we know that there are those resources there but it would be really great if there could be more support in the building for people who aren't coming into the building knowing how to access the services and rebecca did say that she had probably under that is that the budget for two thousand and fourteen that one of the reasons there was a jump in salary is that she probably slightly under figured for two thousand and thirteen that she had increased hours for two of the staff slightly and that she had not calculated that in and she will you know she will manage that in the budget this year but that's why the salary line itself is taking as big a jump as it  and i think the other thing there are a couple of other small jumps that are mostly practical i would like to say that the electricity is going down i was very excited this week we get those curtains and we got an do you folks have any other questions that i can try to answer on the mean bu savings but there would also be the cost of converting and the savings would certainly be realised this coming you know i mean the overall cost of making that work with not going to result in a savings this year and because we weren't sure when that was actually going to come through and when we were going to be able to get connected she just felt like it was a difficult thing to do in this year's budget but in our conversation ve got a lovely building but she's an old one and in the library is responsible for the repairs in its budget so it's being painted right now they're also going to be doing some minor repairs we were thrilled to learn that we were not going to have to replace the slate roof let me tell you in the basement has been again basement ceiling i think that's probably obvious that sort of a perennial issue  and so we work on it and feel like we really need to get it sealed the steps again it's obvious it's a safety issue  the water fountain that is it's so bizarre i mean like we would just like to get a water fountain that had water by the way you know like just place and he went you know but but the way the codes work is have you know the carpet we you know we replace downstairs we'd like to replace up stairs soon and and then problem of the one new item in there we had originally you know if you looked at last year's capital budget there would have been some money for computer replacement and we were able to get a donation from the state of computers so put that we you know so that we no longer needed that five thousand dollars however one of the things that continually came up during the city to planning process is that people would like us to look at how the space of the library is laid out that you know when the library was renovated the second floor was renovated there were funding reasons there were building code reasons that it ended up being configured the way it was and there has and there are a lot of folks who commented that that is not as functional as the library could be and we'd love there'd be a small meeting space in there  and you know and just just look at how we could reshipped and use the space there because people really in that space gets used by big groups by small groups and people really again it came out again and again they saw the library it's a place of information but also as a place for building community and that is really one of the only spaces the only space in town that you could sort of freely go to and have a social community interaction with someone without buying something or whatever so they really wanted the space to reflect that if they could so five thousand towards that it's a goal and again the trustees are going to be working on that coming out of the  planning process and then in the long term there will be some more computers as will be the case for ever played so you does that all make sense actually i believe that that that period was between when that proposal was poor in july to when it was put on the ballot for us to go to a town manager format so to date set goals and conduct these were modified what we have at the last meeting to correct the errors and discrepancies builders on the budget status that the taxes are still involved but there are some explanation which with right yeah because as you read and again when it says in the budget column that's the full year budget correct correct so the reason the percentages are good is if it's twenty five percent on the revenue side it's twenty five percent more we're in good shape even though it says i'm favorable if it's in parentheses because it's big the actual beginning being compared to the full year but you're right not but she's carrying bill as actual revenue right she's actually it would appear as though it's received but it's not necessarily receive if what we were being seen shown on the budget line was budgeted monthly as well so we were if we were getting if we were budgeting monthly then what we were looking at the budget and the actual that's information that would normally be reflected on the balance sheet because it's it's accounts receivable but by putting it on here when we're looking we think we're looking at a profit and loss and in reality we're not looking at a profit and loss we're looking at a thousand but if you were looking at all the numbers in that car right there would be over three million right so i think that actual numbers should come out and replaced with or already put two lines in there something i think this would be the best thing to put on line but i think it does have to reflect to avoid you know there's a fifty million person why  and so i have one more recommendation if this is the ship that could be put in words as favorable unfavorable at the top because you're not comparing your actual to budget today you're comparing invited for the year it should say budget after y thirteen and then i would put a variance and instead of being favorable unfavorable put in these percentages because if you put that percentage in there then you're reflecting the budget based on the actual base and budget for fiscal year and that will be a little bit easier to understand or everybody will look at this to go how this is really unfavorable it looks really nice because it's not it doesn't tell the full story five she did the math under the tax your status report and i don't understand where that eight hundred dollars comes from allow for the use your production of financial statements and that was a lot more money than we anticipated for writing your reasons we originally brought her on for some thousand one hundred  the whether or not the the cost is you know going to work out in the end with the budget is no question you know there's no doubt that we spent a lot of money on  s i think the c p a was a worthwhile investment as far as keeping things in tact and i think that we will continue to see a benefit if we pursue that in the future  is in the sixty's almost thirteen thousand dollars plus a ten thousand dollars extra for the already the result going to be that we have this athlete that can perform at the end and that's that's a lot that's five people doing one person's trying to get to a version that we we feel comfortable about putting up in public and i don't think we feel of the results of the square area and not only that it's ok until we get there but we really said we were going to be looking at mo reports the second meeting of the month so now that we have a sense of what we want us to look like hopefully at the next meeting those will be reflected in the first quarter so the through the end of september and that that will post and i think if we do that monthly then we're in good shape if we're able to do that at the second meeting other i mean i mean that's not  time frame right so we have we have bid said and we have information from one of the bears if they can't comply with the requirements of the our pay so we could award it to one to as far as we know can correct us correct and then we still haven't gotten a bid on the boiler for the firehouse we're not really sure what's going on there but hopefully we'll get some more information on that all right so we really rule move on to  update you on the brownfields request of david raphael who represents craig caswell the owner of the creamery parcel came in and formally requested for the board assistance working with obtaining the brown wrote a letter to the board requesting that help and there is a brownfield workshop in moscow here on october eleventh and if the select board is interested in exploring these grants with years ago the state's going to take over installing signage this project making its agreement allows them intrude into our right of way to do the project and also so those that are ongoing basis we're going to maintain the signs four a company called stone environmental to bury a car cast a television cable on christmas one hundred thirty one point eight six tons of rock salt for winter road maintenance at the district five state bid prices sixty one dollars fifty accent a total of four total price of fifty seven thousand nine hundred ninety nine dollars and seventy four cents we budgeted fifty eight thousand so this is allowed just to purchase up to them now that's on top of them here that we had a large amount of left over her services so for that really concludes our contract ok and this is a purchase order number is three zero eight fo a pound c p a for a total of three thousand three hundred ninety six dollars and twenty five cents ministration budget and i'm working on just you know splitting the planing department into its own costs and grace so that we'll have a better understanding of primarily what they're advertising legal