versus sir miller things that the registration displayed on the vehicle was illegal it could also mean that was a newly registered vehicle and the registration simply hadn't kicked into the computer system if that's a basis to issues were resolved in other words before mr survey or even provided those documents the questioning immediately went to are you a convicted felon or do you have firearms so in order for that question to be proper in not to exceed the scope of what the first was reported as a traffic traffic stop there had to be reasonable suspicion to question mr zale deserve or on those issues and that's what gun shop had reported that mr serial are had in a strange way purchased ammunition and it was ammunition that could be used in this recently reported stolen gun one thing that's not clear in the record but is the fact and you can check in on the map is that i believe the ammunition that was purchased in wisdom montana the stop occurred in jackson montana those two towns are the middle of the big coal valley which is a huge valley in southwestern montana the gun was stolen from an area called grasshopper i don't think it's an incorporated or even an unincorporated town and although it's in the big coal valley it's actually if i remember i went backpacking there a few years ago it's almost in the mountains so it's some miles away from jackson wisdom and i make that point because there's no evidence that mr observer miller was ever in the grasshopper area there's certainly no evidence that he was seen near the vehicle in which the gun was stolen from all the evidence is that he was in town the night the gun was stolen and then later he purchased this in the mission under the theory that that creates reasonable suspicion any person who who purchased any mission for the gun that was reported stolen in that entire area that they call valley could be stopped and we believe that's just not illegal it's not a state law it's up to local authorities jackson is in unincorporated town therefore they don't have such rules beaverhead county which is largely a rural county doesn't have such a rule you can do that rather than a mistake of why it was a mistake of fact in other words that the deputy and he did that in a footnote that the deputy wasn't aware that mr zimmerman or despite his felony convictions mets sitting at a bar and recognized him as a person he dealt with back in two thousand the person he learned in two thousand was in fact a convicted felon when he noticed miller in town he ran a check and found out that there miller's montana driver's license had been suspended and then he began looking around for a vehicle that's where miller might be driving on the twelfth he wasn't sure but he did find this chevy pickup very nebraska plates sitting at a local motel ran the place they came back not on file and i took her fifteenth mr jared wise reported his rifle had been stolen from a location and be a credit county or when deputy flynn got home that night there was a message on his answering machine from ms moore who owns the mercantile unwisdom the conoco slash mercantile and she said you know sir miller was in my store today and he was buying ammunition and he ammunition for a rug or m seventy seven to twenty swift he also told me i'm taking this gun out to see how it shoots indicating that he had purchased ammunition for this particular rifle here and there so another reason that he testified he stopped him was that miller was drinking beer that morning and then driving this vehicle we have the place not on file during the course of service surveillance on the sixteenth  that well we don't want to parse these out that's what the defendants want us to do but that's not what officer flynn is required to do he's allowed to use all these objective facts in determining reasonable suspicion and at the time his suspicion was growing throughout the morning and he had these five reasons to make the stop the practical reason that he could not stop the guy sobs or miller as he drove down the highway was because he was conducting th surveillance in some sort of unmarked vehicle that might have been his personal vehicle and he testified that he needed the assistance of the livestock inspector to actually turn on the flashing lights and make the stop and he came in the jackson that morning   serve livestock officer brown either pass them on the highway or we saw him in the vicinity and he requested brown the systems to make this traffic stop now the reports reflect that he made a traffic stop but it wasn't necessarily freight traffic violation that's the term that this officer used to describe the fact that the defendant was driving down the road and they made a traffic stop but he had these five reasons that he stops or miller's vehicle issue the defendant brings up is that once the stop was made that the questioning exceeded the scope of the stop but actually the first question is could you show me your driver's license registration proof of insurance before the defendant produce his driver's license he's already produced two firearms the sequence of events was the defendant couldn't find his driver's license in the front part of the cab while he was looking at a deputy plant says do you have any felonies the defendant answers yes have you been drinking because we've seen him drinking in the morning that the defendant says one beer the officer says you have any firearms he's still looking for his driver's license and the defendant says i have a rifle the defendant actually recent poll of this two seventy rifle out from behind the seat and hands it to the officer the officer asked do you have any more weapons and he said no he still hasn't found his driver's license in there miller says i think my driver's license is in this tool box in the forty four and the driver's license but by this time miller's already been caught with two firearms so all this reasonable suspicion continues to build throughout the encounter and zell miller ends up turning over the officer finding several other firearms and it all really turns on what actually is really good police work by a deputy sheriff out in the middle of nowhere montana and we're urging this court to  able to give the full title of the gun which would show that it wasn't something that just he obtained and never heard of this before never knew really what it was and that's why he mispronounce routers rather you hear the rest of the title tell you that undermines the officers what the government's claiming created a reasonable suspicion for the officer the government just noted at the end of its argument that the reasonable suspicion built a flynn wasn't was in his personal vehicle the reason deputy flynn was in his personal view is in his own mind deputy fled in a belief he had reasonable suspicion to make this stop otherwise he would have got in official vehicle and he could have made th montana you're way off base if the guess is why no there's a felony conviction out here we have this report credible report of any mission being purchased therefore there is reasonable suspicion that somebody is a felon in possession of an exemption and that's entirely not true in montana it's probably true in a lot of other states but it's not true in montana our position is reasonable suspicion do not support this stop therefore the stop and all the resulting through it's a poisonous tree should be understanding your honor and i'm fairly confident of this it's a question of whether you were convicted that where you live so for instance you could be convicted of a felony in montana moved to washington and your rights are restored by the state only have any reason to didn't detail what a t f told him he ran his records i presume he was aware of his record he just because in fact he was he mentioned he was aware of it was a north dakota conviction and it turns out north dakota is one of the other few states that restores right