items or approximate times and i did was maybe reach earlier or later than post the times the listing of items is those reasonable interest paid by the chair which may be discussed at the meeting at least forty eight hours prior to the meeting not zero items listed may in fact be discussed and other items not listed may also be brought up for discussion to the extent permitted by law at all a bit off time at about quarter of seven we're going to enter into executive session with attorney leo power when to conduct strategy sessions in preparation for negotiations with union personnel to conduct a collective bargaining sessions or contract negotiate negotiations with the union personnel on this particular case it's the steel workers union at seven o'clock will have citizens input at seven o five selections updated at seven ten the board of selectmen will reorganize at seven fifteen we're going to discuss the ratification of comments at the current building committee meeting of april thirtieth two  fifteen at seven thirty mary beth barnard will discuss a new policy to handle the affordable care act at seven forty bill keegan will talk about the real reason the economic development committee and seven fifteen will personnel to conduct collective bargaining sessions or contract negotiations with union personnel to with the steelworkers union and we will adjourn the executive session to come back to regular session own favor is there any citizens and you my wife everybody that helped along the way i'm really looking forward to next three plus years thanks for all your support ok first item on our there's less people coming out to say anything when you're doing something that people disagree with everyone becomes an armchair critic so it's a tough position so it's probably easier not to be a chairman to be honest with you and you kind of lay back when you say it's a surprising i look at all that aside i think we're at a place where there's a there's a good opportunity a look at what's happening around us i look at the economy and i've looked at what's happened over the last year and in a way foxboro is kind of going backwards going backwards to the time where people in the community are stepping up if they're asked you saw it was sam byrnes you see it without any nickerson's family maybe it's a social media that's going around but if people are asked and people reach out and people get involved to some good things that can happen the economy's doing very well and i actually enjoy going out to the community i like out reaching you know i've got three kids i've got a full time plus job and it's difficult to spend the time but i do spend the time going to the things that i think are important to look at the you know the cleanup day we have for people under people plus coming you look at you know reaching out to the good daves you know with the with the baseball people build in the dugouts groups coming together for road races i think there's a good opportunity and i think the selectmen can capitalize on that opportunity over the next  year and i don't slight anyone on the board but i can say going forward when we get the opportunity to speak getting engaged i want to be there but at the same time i don't want to speak i want the board to you know the chairman sometimes they come and they just say the  the few things that a microphone and i like to back off this year and rely on the other four members to step forward with me to reach out to the community and i think that is something that we could do better on the clerical stuff at the table for the want to two or three hours every other week that will continue to go on and we you know we just talked about contracts and budgets and all that stuff but i think there's an opportunity to reach out and i want to work with the board to do that and i think i can do a good job and that's  uncomfortable you know similar to when we're going through your contract talking in public i'm saying how good you know you've got to sell yourself and you've got to say i'm a good manager and when you're a bad manager will say it and it's uncomfortable but when i just raise my hand i'm uncomfortable about doing that but at the same time i'm confident that i can do a good job i've done it before and it's an opportunity i don't want to pass up just a question that you say that i'm capable of doing i'm sure you i'm sure you're very capable i just have confidence that i can do it you're not i've got to figure out i've had probably three discussions in my life with you one of them at the the opiate session that we had where dave showed up and i had a good conversation with him we don't talk about stuff at the table i go out of my way not to talk about stuff at the table because of what happened at the table if you're insinuating as preplanned you know john you've put it out this way if i want it but i don't want that bad if you want to take over chairmanship i don't want to start off on a bad note with the cloud that i've been reaching out to either chris or david you know last time i was chairman lorraine came up to me afterward and said if you want to be in again i'll support you she said at the table i don't know what to to that john i well i came into this table just just to be fair i was really looking forward to being jim well i was that's nice you're looking forward to it down you know we go on i can speak for other half  opiate you know he seventy three i was watching a movie and it was a community thing you know i saw you last night at the elections i didn't bring it up at all i don't i don't enjoy this i'm comfortable about it i think i can do a good job if you can do a better job you know put yourself out there and we do the votes we've been doing it well you know this is my fifth going on my six year i take pride and i've actually gone against the table when when i believe things i talked outside of the table i've called people out on it publicly because i do this for a living i mean i present public projects to public boards sometimes five nights a week and when i get there and i find out that stuff's going on one of the facts my job and affects him there's just five members on this board everybody brings something to the table you're a very smart guy and nobody's going to deny that it has nothing to do with personalities i think we have an opportunity to build a team here and i think you can do a better job of building a team working together that's the only reason why i nominated him if it's not really in a flippant reflection on you i have nothing but the utmost respect for you but i think  jim at the top can can build a team and get this board working together in a single direction you know i was always under the impression the boy did work well together and also  to be the leader and i at this point i think it's a huge jump at this point in time and that's why  we're kind of at a crossroads because i don't mind voting over our state i would expect you to abstain and if we can convince the three people that are not you are right to vote or maybe you know having seen this  debacle maybe someone else wants to step aside as chairman and they would have spain and that's probably the fair this fairest way to do it do it not sit with you so if you're not voting and i'm not voting in this three people voting the only way ok guys you know what i think this town means too much and if you want to be chairman i'll bow out i'll vote for you as chairman will go on our way but i don't want to start the year fighting because it's going to go downhill i've done it before i've been on the other side of it i don't mind sitting out in to be honest with i thought it was very effective this year with the things i got involved with without any title on me and i enjoyed it i really did look at the stuff that happened throughout town i showed up at title it's not that important to me i've got better time better things to do  fifteen and this was unintentional but the way it got started was bill you know contacted jim develops the us to inform us that there was going to be a meeting of the current building committe selectmen to see if the renderings were close to what we believe the town was looking for he asked our opinion on the way he had two versions and he said which one would you prefer and we did give our meeting was not posted as a board of selectmen meeting it was posted as a permanent building committee meeting so what i'd like to do is read the minutes of the permanent building committees meeting just to resist the proper procedures to cure entrance way it was different in there was no who below but my comment was there was actually a building with the other was the one straight up the sides and looked the more or worse like the buildings you'll see if in all that was my choice my comments were that i prefer that choice my comments were that i would like to see it and i was in favor of the very small front door that they had and i also agreed with one of the folks on the building committees idea that the brick ought to come all the way down to the ground and rather than have a granite apron on the building so that was my input there mike my comments were basically i like the fact that the brick went all the way up to room so i made comments on that i'm also make comments on the building materials how i wanted you know low maintenance building materials with the brick or the razor tram that was pretty much extent of my comment  my comment was on the building did not have cooler at on it and my comment was that west looked more like a eight hundred sixty s building rather than a colonial building more of a colonial design and i suggested that the townspeople were very concerned when this process began that town hall would remain looking building so my suggestion was the  last week of read everything that's been given to me you know open meeting stuff all that the ethics stuff when i saw the sun hit janda you know since two thousand and twelve has been six complaints against the board change i mean somebody in that meeting should have realized that hey i'm the third person in i've got leave or something i mean it's chris and at the meeting there were four of us there but nobody was saying anything it if you're interested then time it's going to be at a certain time we were not told that we were going to be asked our ira pinion of it and when mr you can or did ask opinion he asked the pinion of the group meaning the the people in his committee so it was inadvertent if anything if anything if you want to say there was a violation it would have been my mr you can spot because he what he should have done is called a she got the sense that we were we were probably you know you know in an area that we were over wanted so to record it she checked into it she contacted town council they said you were over the line so that's what we're doing tonight just to try to allow that after the fact baseless i think putting this on the agenda was the right step i see how it happens are all trying to work for the same thing but chris is right it was a violation you say sorry we there's this process in the  in the process to cure it this is what it is but to say it was bill you can't fault is just you know what i'm saying is if it's if opinions are going to be solicited then there should have been a joint meeting our at least we should have been notified that oh by the way we don't think it's going to ask you your opinion as far as i was concerned it was here's a picture of it see a later that or that's the impression i'm getting that we didn't know that so we if it doesn't end in an apology and i'm not going for the last year i got dragged down with this board blaming other people blaming misunderstandings there was a mistake made right absolutely we're saying we walked into it we decided ok jim let me let me just clarify i was the last person to arrive i saw the other three members my instinct was i should turn around and leave that was my first instinct i didn't follow my instinct because i was a member of the town hall working group i wanted to stay and participate in that what i should have done was got up and just kept walking and walked out i made a mistake and i apologize but i'm not saying that if i was in the room i probably would have done the same thing it was a situation but to able to accommodate cable t v s equipment requirements will you go advise my way out of data lines and cable requirements would be done in concert with the towns i t director who would be developing in here when requirements for the building from an i t perspective and the cable t v would be asked to be involved once the plans are passed schematic design decay decker question the square footage including the mechanical basement ellaby discuss the square footage excluding the makeup of exterior walls depression the different approach to calculation from previous then reviewed the site plan for some of the consideration l b noted that the building is cited to maximize parking and to incorporate the two of the site buildings into a coherent grouping in addition parking was added to live the place landscaping which takes into account when to lighting that is directed to the site area only and fencing and landscaping to protect the border with neighbors to the back of the building it was noted that the civil engineer believes the grade will be such that no retaining wall or a very short one will be needed at the south street also need to take into consideration that the building is located at the highest point and we need to be sure not to create a grade two of the building it will be then reviewed a number of conceptual exterior designs to get input from the group on which direction the town wanted the design to bill there was discussion on different end walls design and associated with floods window designs exterior wall treatments and roof options for over the b o b o s meeting room additionally the front entrance designs with an off center main entrance was reviewed built with a pitch behind the parapet walls on the roof line behind the building was discussed as that would also be if i pitched roof again to reduce the building mass windows with colonial mullions who preferred to retain you were clear window design for the b o s meeting room and entrances still need work to take the input and review the designs to adjust to the vision of the group i discussed and bring back additional options for consideration most was made by gary white house and seconded by bill passed to approve invoice number zero zero three one nine six over the british companies the amounts of four hundred twenty dollars for services rendered through february twenty eighth the vote was six zero zero motion was made  by gary white house to approve and was number zero three three two one nine for the vertex companies the amount of five hundred sixty dollars for services were in the march thirty first the vote was six zero zero zero she was made by gary white house in second seconded by bill cas prove invoice zero two one four four eight l be architects in the amount of fifty three thousand three hundred twenty dollars and thirty cents for services rendered through march thirty first two thousand and fifteen the vote was six zero zero in the meeting adjourned at nine person and walk out o well well i think it's going to all of you will but now you've got to understand i mean that was an invite but conservation commission the advisory committee the planning board the zoning board for the forty movies there is sixty committees in this town it did the simplest thing this five of us the majority is three period that doesn't need to go through you and back to us and then back to the council for him to tell us it was a violation and then for us to argue about it things happen this is a good project people are working hard on it they're probably go to three more meetings in the next month but if we don't get an invite we happen to want to go to the planning board meeting it's the simplest that's the biggest words the biggest part of the open meeting or is quorum correct you know three is a quorum period and it's just it and i'm sorry i lost my temper but when we argue that it was somebody else's fault take the class again if you can't figure it out it's we wasted so much time over the last year on the violations it's maddening and might makes me want to just walk out the door with where  and i completely understand the situation was that was this was that originally my thought was just to actually have dave show up as the only member because he was on the original working group committee what i think what you know i think i can certainly do that i think that i think the point about what you're suggesting though is that we want to be we want to be logistically correct in how we through this too because realistically the situation we post every single meeting and then we have postings all over the place we want to be realistic in the sense that interest in it is a simple rule is if all five you all four or three of you attend the meeting you can't speak on the issue you just say look i can't upon the board the other boards and commissions to post suggest a joint meeting they knew they were going to be soliciting our opinion we didn't know they were going to be soliciting or like i said i thought we the legislation that i'm asking you to look at tonight is the employer mandate it was effective in twenty fifteen all of the people with at least one hundred full time employees or full time equivalents have to offer their full time employees and that is defined as those who averaged thirty hours of service per week that we have offered and we offer them health insurance coverage that meets a shared responsibility standard a plan that has to cover at least sixty percent of their health care expenses for a typical population and that's affordable so this policy defines that they tell us we need to adopt a standard measurement period which is a look at that period we've defined that in here over six months  but the indeed the committee itself is in the purpose of the committee is to evaluate all options for creating out of development strategy for the town and that means that we're looking at the various areas not just route one and not just  complement and add to the town's already strong in diverse business mix implementing master plan and economic development strategy and updated as needed and to enhance the business climate in town in partnership with the local chamber of commerce in state and regional agencies the committee will promote the town as a prime location for new and expanding businesses it will also foster a business friendly environment in town strengthen existing business relationships work to ensure balance of interest with the  neighborhoods and promote an understanding of economic development the committee's goal is to enhance the quality of life and prosperity in town meeting needs of the future and help the town realize its desired economic future it i think this topic came up about five years ago there was a meeting that we had jay barrows came to it and try to follow kind of the tri chamber and we talked about it and i think that at that time i think we realize that there was a committee it was just rather and i actually responded to bill this is more like a business plan versus a mission statement and then i took a stab at you know kind of you know making this a little bit more  put together by no means you know please comment you know this is this is a perfect fox rose economic development committee's objective is to enhance the quality of life and prosperity for its citizens and to meet the future needs of the community both socially and financially through the implementation of the master plan and successful development of the core business districts it's just basic get that's that's that's the mission committee and then what you would do is you would you would complete the task in the mission statement of business plan and in greater detail but you know sometimes mission statements get long winded and you get too big i think if you keep it keep it short keep it simple and and to the point because that's basically what we want to do we want to promote the social and financial prosperity of the town and there has to be a vehicle to implement the master plan  talk about a master plan and all of the strategies and all these things that they want to do but they're not vehicle to implement it will never happen right and that was what was talked about at the planning board and those are the exact words that that i use implement the former by house i mean there's a lot that can be done to promote to promote the different business areas in town and that's what the business that like you talked about the economic development committee that's could you could argue that yes she did the economic development it's going to going to get involved in all different factions factions of not only the master plan but the infrastructure in town if you use the caramel to create a track retain and expand you can use those things to not only promote the town you want existing businesses to grow and flourish in the community you want it you want to save jobs i mean what's more important creating one hundred new jobs or retaining a hundred jobs so i think it's more important to retain one hundred jobs and have that those businesses grow within the community it's a lot easier to do that than to bring outside companies we have to identify what our infrastructure ne what what's the financial impact of the infrastructure we have we have a great master plan we don't have the infrastructure in place right now to to accommodate what what the mass of plans call for there has to be a plan for that so i think these are things that the economic development committee can can help kind of guide the town in that direction and get out and get the information and make the proposals and let the town decide which direction they want to go right now it's kind of in a vacuum it's on paper but nobody really knows how to implement it well i think the problem was there was you know we should do this we should do that and everybody was pointing fingers well that's you know that's your job that your job so if we have this one committee with all the with all the  entities that are responsible for different things working together and so then when it's time to when it's time to do so ok good to get input from you and you know selling you know promoting the town the at the last masterplan meeting they did have a card that you could filling and check off if you were interested in math and i know quite a few i know i did i checked draft quite a few people did so so they  meld those together the president's over the next week i think is a great opportunity to get some new people involved and i see it as you know the economic development committee maybe a branch of it take sections of the master plan i think you can get a lot of people involved and get some new ideas going because obviously the people that were on that you know didn't go anywhere so i think it's a great time to get was there ever years what kind of development is most attractive for us and i think that's what it was not before the time but i think that's exactly what the planning boy did we spend a lot of money with consultants to work groups so we have done that and that and that's called a master plan so it's a saying it's that's not i don't know what i'm saying is if you've identified the areas where you want certain types of the vellum to occur in the master plan but in terms of what what type of economic development do you think you saw as you saw i just really i think it did go past that i think we talked about you know what type of development do we want traffic generating development do you want restaurants and bars do we want you know the white what i think this is almost two facets one is you know outreach and market and then the second one is if somebody eleonora comes in they have a project when they bring it to the town the dialogue between the selectmen the planning board the zoning board the conservation commission is it a quagmire or we effectively running so somebody comes here and we've got a thirty day permit or so one hundred twenty days issue sometimes do it very  well sometimes don't do it well so where do we fall into that and that was our dialogue between all our boys well one of the things that we've we've talked about and we've already actually been established as is that internal review next and who are they going to do it whether one of the concerns going to come out of those discussions staff members will know right off the top if there is a certain level of concern that needs to be addressed one of the top and we can often offer that a father and i let people know how it should be addressed before  t gets presented yes and i think that's my i mean this is good in and i read that the second part is what we had said it like for instance if you go to mansfield if i come in with an application he goes to the front desk and then within a week i had the those various back i think our relationships and our friends and what have you it's limited yeah you know we might think we're the best in whatever but i think it's going to i think the people have to come to us just as much as we have one for you appointing people you can reach this far but we need to reach this far side i'd rather have it out and let them come to us and play time in you know people like to be asked to serve i mean even if they're just putting it out there in what i thought i had which is to go through a listing of all of the various professions that are out there and start supposed to go so usually that's the way it is because it's the biggest night of the and if that's the specials are just to support of course but i just want to say thanks to everyone who making the call was with us at the end you can speak last night i did i did i very very briefly and  actually the less i speak the better in their memoirs to be honest with you there is i just wanted to say that that the time report came out really well great picture on the front and i actually took the opportunity this week i did see the burns family at the meeting last night i said you know just want to say you know that it was very special for all of us to have that that document that you dedicate this to say of course i took it upon myself to celebrate collective accomplishments as a town and that and this was a kind of a unique year in a lot of ways i was and certainly we've got we've had we've had the tragedies as well as we've had triumphs and i think that is the time we need to continue to move on in a direction that just leads us in a new direction altogether and and and what's that said let's make this a great year and a lot of ways i just think that that that report sort of was a combination of a lot of good things that happened and really or does it better than some of the surrounding towns but god if you're watching this and you can come to either the special time meeting or the town meeting or asia hand some of this is off or not sometimes but the good thing came out is this is the book that the town put together if you look at inside it it's got a lot of good information the department heads a lot of time describing what they do their budget in this special this year because sam is graduating would have graduated i'm sorry this year with the senior class of dad in the both of you guys through the town purchased one of these books each graduating senior is going over to deadspin ellen she's going to get into that at some point between now and graduation and it's a good exercise for the seniors to open it up as a tribute to sam and this is their town so you know maybe i'll get on a book case maybe the read it but you know when i was a senior i didn't have any clue to the civic part of where i lived and it's a good opportunity and you spent a lot of time coordinating this thank you to the great she did a great job for the goes thank you kid in the next one who the food is an application to conduct a boot drive to collect funds for father's day fireworks all the public safety issues were  addressed a move that the board of selectmen approve the application by the founders day committee to conduct a fundraising boot drive on saturday may twenty third so in a m to noon the common rotary area as field events paperwork is available online for those participants who want to be a part of it go ahead and get it into us as soon as possible and we look forward to it hoping for great weather i saw cindy had that over at the at the at the booth when they were doing the voting she said you're struggling a little bit with volunteers setting up in we are we lost a few key people this year so we need all the help we can get we've made a big push we  elections and we're reaching out to friends and family and getting them to getting them out to help us out with the field set up the day before we're out on the fields almost all day setting setting of equipment getting ready for the next day and then the parade of course we need line marshals and people to help organize the lines as they get ready to go out so not a lot of heavy lifting but just a lot of people to do a lot of different things and friday's a lot of heavy lifting saturday i make a motion that the board is like me to prove the application by the founders day committee for the parade in day long activities on saturday june thirteenth second any discussion  twenty fifth at nine a m and urge everyone to attend and support this fox pro traditional honoring our fallen defenders of liberty second discussion o could get that out there so the parade is on monday may twenty fifth starting at nine o'clock at fifty four central street which is the t d bank parking lot from there it will take a right on to central street towards the common and then we'll go clockwise around the common to the to the normal staging point  was the reason that was mostly so that some of our older veterans can continue to participate in the in the parade we do have some world war two veterans and a couple in wheelchairs and so there was a request by the committee to do that and i thought that was reasonable it didn't add anything or or make any complications to the parade route in the fire and police were fine with that so you know it was ok i discussion there was one date it was november third that's also election day i just wondering if we might want to choose another date rather than november third i know that this election as far as state  september tenth and twenty seventh october twenty fifth and twenty nine november eighth and twenty third and december sixth and twenty  approve the application for sunday early openings for the blue fin lounge from the dates of patriots home games september twenty seventh october twenty fifth nov eighth december sixth and