appreciation for aesthetic qualities but she's not here so i imagine you don't live in belmont you cut through our beautiful town on your commute coming down the hill and con avenue at the light you admire the deep red brick buildings more than a century old of our municipal complex or your unpleasant street from either direction passing the start district picture postcard small town new england commuters never see the shabby bel just outside they just see the outside of our nice buildings right across the street as a handsome structure that says police it's where it should be the center of town since nine hundred thirty one the building also says safety respect professionalism it does not say deputy dog or one bullet barney yet that's how we treat their profession there and put their lives in the last time at the start of every shift like the opening scene of hill street blues last year assistant chief mike icici took town meeting members on tours i couldn't believe the conditions the stairway to hell those so called women shower stuff piled in every corner i was with donal mercy aid and other members for d p w tour led by michael centuri as mike took us around pointing out in his matter of fact way the many how should i say this the on usual features yes that's how a realtor would put it behind a quiet well kept neighborhood with nice homes out of sight out of mind i've been a generator for the national park service and a list of man but never in such spaces are whatever didn't move not even in an old destroyer escort in the atlantic or dozens or park service restrooms have never seen such conditions as these two hard working groups have to  e folks of whom we all depend i would work there easy to say i've never had the strength guts stamina or aptitude to do their jobs eighteen hour days forget about it i would not ask my dear wife darling daughter a sister any female relation friend or colleague to do it so why do i expect it of a stranger a woman officer like the sergeant here tonight who wears a badge and carries a weapon and protects me my family and my property it's not right to treat the men those way either should be held up as a valued employees about where i'm proud to live please vote for this project i'll clean your bathroom mahoney they eat numbers for breakfast it's what they do you can make book on it it's pennies of expense for every dollar of value and no debt exclusion no tax increase if we can't pass this how we handle much larger capital projects justice for our workers demands it we can't make up for decades of neglect and abuse but tonight we can start correcting it resolve you have to add something to the adage don't follow kid x or dog x but apparently you're not supposed to follow mr chessen that was quite brilliant thank  i have three daughters i would not want them to work in either of those two buildings i don't think any of you would work in those buildings you wouldn't want your son your daughter your niece your nephew your husband your wife to work in those buildings the conditions there are inhumane they are deeply orrible and they are an embarrassment to our town supposed to be ten years but as i observed the other day like dog years so go belmont years ten belmont years is turned into thirty seven years and he's almost conflicts i moved here when i was four i'm sixty two now and other than the nice four year that we can walk into nothing's been done the place is a mess we need to stand up here tonight hopefully in unanimous support and show love and appreciation to our town employees we need to show appreciation respect and love and support to our men and women of the police department that after spending a patrol risking literally life and limb to protect and serve us the members of the community so they can return back to a place and not be faced with additional risk but rather be given a safe haven free from risk secure and safe not so much for them also members of the public us to go in there and have a modern facility a permanent fix the men and women of the d p w should not have to work these are the people that go out and plow the snow in the freezing cold in howling winds will dig a hole in the frozen pipe with a blistering heat or in a raging blizzard to keep our water running our sewer is good things sanitary they do adult is they do us cemeteries they do our fields they do the pool they keep our equipment in good shape yet when they come home to do that or come back to the office they get to rest behind a glorified shower curtain sitting on chairs they literally picked out of the trash using lockers  obsolete fire stations standing on concrete that has water draining from the trucks on the other side of the shower curtain running between their feet breathing those films and of course the cold because the doors are open it's deplorable and heaven forbid you're a woman that needs to use the facility you have to suffer the indignity of going into a male foreman's office through the office to use a small room that would make a small jetliners facility restroom look spacious so i ask you the same question if not today if not this plan what's your plan b it's been kicked down the road time after time after time study after study after study now is the time with the added bonus of as a tax payer you get all this a ten year hopefully not bellemont ten year fix for the plan for the a d p w and a permanent indefinite solution that fits the program all codes and safety of the offices for the police department just about done mary i think i will say that say that so do the right thing let's see if we can have a unanimous town meeting so what our employees and give us the facilities we want it to echo m precinct one first tangential comment i was very taken with anne marie's anecdote about mike santoro and i just want to thank him for completely selfless view about what's in the town thanks i'm glad we don't have to take him up on that offer i am enthusiastically in favor of this and i think their comments that have been made and comments that will be made will echo my thoughts i had one question for mr go on a regarding the police station if i just kind of been rough numbers it looks like about a third is new space a third is going to be renovation but a third of the existing space is going to remain in its existing configuration and i'm curious visually are we renovating or updating that space or is it going to look like one thousand nine hundred thirty one space glued to doing is gently connecting to buildings the new renovation will look like new renovation the existing building will look like existing building and we'll try and blend them together in between in the transition space in between them the renovations to the existing building the proportions that you talk about are about right but to keep the project lean we're not spending a lot of money on the existing building to keep the project lean we're not trying to mimic the interior of a historic building because that's always very expensive and so we're balancing the funds and the designed to make it work properly fair enough a quick follow up if i may when we talk about this being a permanent solution th it realistic to think that that space that is not being the existing one nine hundred thirty one space that is not being touched truly does have a life of another thirty plus years or yes it does ok thank you the elevator on that site was impossible and now we have a plan that includes an elevator at that site which is fantastic so my question to you is sort of a little bit about how that came about but more relevantly if if every time ok so so so i don't understand what happened last november quite frankly i think there was an idea of putting an elevator on the outside of the building sort of in the  red and in the floor plan i showed with a little red boxing there were and i and i think it was considered as an obstruction to the fire department coming between the two buildings we've put dozens of elevators inside of buildings and we called it an interior slash exteriors elevator because on the first in the basement on the first floor it was interior and then it kind of popped out of the roof to become an x tier attachment to the second floor if there was no other floor added so so it's very it's easier to put an elevator on the exterior of a building but it doesn't work in this building and so we put it on the interior of the building and it works just fine so i don't know how i can speak to what happened last year it's not a brilliant idea it's just sort of smart planning and my second question was about the play station if you could speak to how the police station will be used during the renovations plan that we're working on to figure out where people are going to be when certain areas are under renovation but keep in mind we're building big blocks of space and those big block blocks of space can be used as temporary facilities while other parts of the building so they can be moving requires a two thirds  vote right motion to terminate debate yes if you want to terminate no if not glenn do you want to show the results debaters terminated one nine hundred three to twenty six so now we vote on the motion under article twenty what is it twenty three twenty three like as i said it requires two thirds because of the borrowing michael santoro and any other d p w workers who are here tonight to the front along with the police officers who are present and have the world's greatest building committee stand up to be recognized and thanked yes by all means for the record the final vote was two nineteen in favor and two opposed that's a ninety nine percent yes one percent no now turn to article twenty two miss malini and mary mahoney time meeting member of precinct one chairman of the capital budget committee before i start this thank you very sincere thank you to all of you know we are very excited and will start work on this probably tomorrow article twenty two that one million four hundred four thousand one hundred eighty one dollars we raised in appropriated and six hundred thousand dollars be transferred from free cash reserves for the purchase of public safety equipment site improvements public works equipment equipment for town facilities and consulting services in connection there with to construct public ways and for building and facility and public works construction and for major maintenance and alterations including design work as follows said some to be following suit and committee unite unanimously recommends favorable action this morning thank you the capital budget is like that old baseball hats that you keep at the back door you grab it when you need it but otherwise you don't think that much about it that old hat protect you from the rain the wind the sun and it hides your hair when it's looking weird without it you just don't function very well aspects of a capital budget are contained this evening in articles twenty two twenty one sixteen seventeen and fourteen for those of you haven't had a chance to read this my report will highlight expenditures in all areas included in those five articles once again i call him mr churchill to remind us that we all write these very long reports and we just really hope you read them but we understand that you don't so i'm going to run through it members of the capitol budget committee represent the school committee the warrant committee the planning board and three boards like men and then three of us appointed by the moderator all of us are experienced in many areas of town government and bring that experience and knowledge to the process i'm going to quickly walk through this process i do this every year this is for those of you who are new town meeting members the rest of you can check your graduation party  first thing we do is receive requests from the various departments we set up a schedule to interview those department head so that we can have a discussion about their requests we analyze debate and prioritize those requests we then in many cases follow up with the departments for more information when we're all done we conduct a straw poll with a lot of debate and a lot of discussion among ourselves we eventually vote on our final recommendations and a couple of us write the capitol budget report to town meeting members which was sent out to all of you let's look at an overview of the money for this year one point four million is allocated to the capital budget committee in total discretionary funds and we are recommending to you how to spend that one point four million this evening i almost never highlight what we don't fund but i am going to do that this evening so let me note that one point nine million in requests remains unfunded so discretionary requests from various departments remains unfunded our total for roads and sidewalks is two point four million total capital expenditures from sewer enterprise funds are two point one million and total capital expenditures from water enterprise funds are one point six million let's look at the highlights of what is being funded first of all you've probably heard a lot of discussion about the continuing repairs on the two fire stations i stood before you two or three years ago and explained how there was leakage at the two fire stations which pretty much started right after the construction was completed it was due to all the construction there was an insurance settlement ultimately which provided a sum of money around nine hundred thousand dollars to fix that capital budget committee that year put another four hundred plus thousand dollars towards that fix that was the good news the bad news is that once they started the fix they discovered that the problem problem was considerably greater than had been anticipated so this year we come back to you and capital budget is asking for six hundred thousand dollars from our discretionary funds to be spent on those repairs and the remaining six hundred thousand dollars will be coming from free cash so we're carrying all of the information six from os six from free cash a million to continuing repairs one of the other big ticket items is ten new voting machines for the town clerk's office the machines that we have now about twenty years old probably time to replace them total cost of seventy five thousand dollars replacing the window fire alarm for one hundred seventy two almost one hundred seventy three thousand dollars pedestrian safety or around the wind brooke you'll remember that last year we had a request for pedestrian safety improvements on school st around the burbank which have worked out beautifully the year before that we did some work around the butler which also worked out lovely so this year it's the wind broke on both the sherman street and the cross street side we have a bundle of requests for the chantrey auditorium to upgrade them i highlight this because we really make an effort to stay current with the requests and the repairs on our buildings generally middle school is now twenty one years old it's in great shape but we've got to keep it in great shape so we try to fund as much as we can as we go along d p w door and window repair for a total of seventy thousand dollars now is the time to do it we're going to do the building thank you let's fix the rest of the stuff that needs to be done at the same time knowing makes sense now the unfunded piece first is the request for the two thousand and three fire department pump or that it be replaced at a cost of six hundred fifty six thousand dollars i have to tell you that in the report you have a five year plan for all  departments so looking forward five years you see what all the requests are going to be fire department and d p w really has for themselves a ten year plan they know when they're going to ask for those big expensive trucks a pumper truck a ladder truck in the d p w those massive snow fighters the big street sweepers because they're so expensive we have to space those out over a period of time so we never find ourselves in one year asking for two giant trucks because we just can't find them and so if i can borrow chief rozelle zx description of how this happens you've got a ten year plan when we don't approve this money this year it isn't as if that ten years just shifts it doesn't that ten years squishes down to nine years and now that pumper starts to bump up against something else we were very reluctant about not funding this but given the money that had to go to the repairs we really didn't have a choice other big ticket item replacing the d p w fuel tanks at three hundred  fifty thousand dollars this also would have been a great time to do this this is not an emergency situation these are two underground tanks one for gasoline one for diesel all the town vehicles fuel up down there it's a good idea to replace them at this juncture the new code requires that they be above ground so when we do replace them you'll see above ground tanks but we have alerted ted to the placement and the size so they will be part of the planning as we do the construction at the d p w i highlight the next three things town school security system wide building envelope and system wide unit ventilator replacement because every year i come before you with these three items and we try to do to allocate the dollar amount that you see there sometimes it's a little less sometimes it's a little more these are ongoing projects which keep our buildings in good repair in good shape and in the case of the security it's a multi year project to design and install security systems in all of our town and school buildings why are we not funding these this year because with the leave taking of the former facilities director and the lag time and hiring a new facilities director all of the money that we allocated in these three areas was not spent i should actually say none of the money was spent last year so that money is still sitting there so for us to add more to it doesn't make any sense because he's got to spend the this money first so he will spend last year's money going forward someone will be back here from capital budget next year asking for these amounts for these three topics going forward hopefully we get caught up in the next little stretch of time ok that's good and we do all right let me speak to article twenty two which is ok that's casual but i'm starting to get tired of the story which is the whole capital budget but i've broken it out by topic public safety and this is a very loose grouping of just kind of pulled out some stuff  fire but there's also items in other areas that represent safety so for the police it's a domain server for the fire department it's the money that we point aside into a fund every year and at the end of five years we replace the cardiac monitor and the ambulance last year we replace the cardiac monitor so we're starting our new fund the year before that we replace the ambulance so this is year two of the new fund library has requested automatic door locks this only makes sense it's a safety issue for them this allows them to lock down all of their doors at one time when it's closing time for the library and nobody is able to sneak back into whatever it's purely a safety concern and as i noted earlier this falls under community development but the requests for safety improvements around the wind brooke area if i highlight what's going into the schools or emergency generator replacing the wind alarm system those three things i talked about at the chattering the auditorium stage floor will be refinished stage equipment will be assessed as to what needs to be replaced or upgraded and the auditorium lighting controls will be worked on  a combination of wind brooke bottler and burbank network wiring for a total of seventy seven thousand dollars we're on the road i'm not doing the clicker because i'm not that smart dump truck with fifteen thousand dollars well you can't be original request was for eighty three thousand dollars but upon further study jay marcotte said you know what if i just replace the engine of this truck i can get maybe five or six more years out of the truck so we're giving him fifteen thousand for the engine rather than spending eighty three on the whole truck as i mentioned earlier garage doors and windows replacement will be done in conjunction with our building project clarks voting machines i t two items fiber network design and additional data storage network anybody who has any questions on that dave peddle will very happily answer when we get to roads and sidewalks  rows program is funded by the proceeds from two overwrites two thousand and one two thousand and fifteen provided a combined one point six eight million dollars every year that amount grows by two and a half percent so this year it's the million six eight chapter nine highway funds which come from the stace five hundred forty two thousand four hundred forty three dollars that is seven thousand dollars more than last year that's a separate article you'll vote that separately under article twenty one finally the two thousand and fifteen override also allowed for specific spending on sidewalks and that amount also grows by two and a half percent every year so this year it's two hundred fifteen thousand two hundred fifty dollars dedicated completely to sidewalks and you can see the total there that's a lot of money and i will say that and i think glenn and jay will back me up on this which is when you look at two point four million dollars that's all they can handle in one good weather season even if we gave them more money there just aren't enough good days to do any more construction than that and i think in your town meeting packet you got a list of the roads that were going to be done if you have any questions on that one will answer them all right under article sixteen you have enterprise funds out of the total water water enterprise funds one point six million is capital requests and out of the total sewer and storm water enterprise funds two point one million will be spent on capital requests go to my and those three points i'd like to make building projects that we've talked about already such as belmont high school the library the d p w and the police by having those building projects that has limited the number of requests coming to the capital budget because all of the issues that might be funded by capital are now going to be solved by these building projects i should note that the community preservation act the community preservation committee the funds that this year we have allocated to grow street playground walking path town fields replacement of playground equipment the mclean barn clay pitt memorial project and even the design work for the pace and park concert shed or because evo all of those could conceivably be capital requests but they have been able to be funded by c p a money and finally any potential public private partnerships any projects that are being funded by other group friends of or any private organizations greatly reduce the draw on the capital requests and so we are forever grateful to that i would like to thank our department heads because this was a really tough year we got a very late start we had a lot of snow we kept canceling our meetings it was tough to keep up but they were great i'd like to thank patrice garvan for jumping right in to the capitol with both feet as soon as she got here a special thanks to phyllis marshall who as acting town administrator worked with us all along but also has acted this year as the facilities director until someone was hired thanks to floyd carmen for his very future looking financing which is very helpful to us i'd like to think glen castro for all of his numbers accuracy and for always running my slides and a very special thank you to matt haskell because without him i am s i can't do any posting i can't organize any meetings i don't know where we're meeting he takes care of all of this he's the man one more point from my words to live by everything that we do on capital budget is for the future of the town i will tell you that the capital budget committee was constantly about funding large equipment purchases about funding technology about funding the growth in the schools and about just keeping up with what needs to happen in the town meeting the day to day needs of every department is what we worry about constantly i invite you to worry with us and to turn that worrying into it vance thinking and advance planning thank you speed coming on cross street is very much needed we've got a lot of cars going very fast on cross street and as you know it's very busy both on the sherman street and the cross street side really want to thank the traffic advisory committee for and glen for working with the cross street residents on that and so that money is part of this and i'm speaking very strongly in favor of very much in support of it i i am i have two comments the first one is just about the firestick station situation which i know we have to spend that money and i'm just make a comment that i'm hoping since we're about to do another big project thankfully the police and public works which are great projects i know there are a lot of bidding rules but i'm hoping that we i don't know i'm not a lawyer so i don't know what the lessons learned are but i'm hoping there are lessons learned about  writing better contracts about asking harder questions i don't know what they are but i'm hoping there are lessons learned from this process for the projects we're about to undertake so that's my first comments last question  present you saw that in our budget you've seen it in the high school proposals and you've seen that the libraries is preparing to hire somebody also so that's huge the other thing that someone whispered in my ear right before town meetings started which is look at the works that you fire stations war two buildings geographically separate there was only one cloak of the works it makes sense to have one for each building and so that i think as we go forward with our various projects we will do the same thing that seems like money well spent and then my second thing i just want to raise and i know that the committee is supportive of this but i am just going to say and i know you're trying to allocate money are amongst all high priority projects and that is the town and school security design and plan and i just i am just going to say that since the beginning of this year people know this but it's hard that there's been on average one school shooting a week during this year so north carolina texas kentucky pennsylvania california maryland tennessee florida georgia mississippi virginia michigan mississippi alabama alabama california maryland new york missouri sorry to do this to you but florida california texas and indiana and i think but i think that we really o one we do and we have funded it as a top priority at the top dollar value that was requested each year but right now there's money sitting there that has to be spent first before we can spend any more you know there's only so much you can do and it's it's a phased project because it's a design piece that needs to happen in a certain way and so we talked a lot about this at the committee level we talked to the people involved who were requesting it we tried to understand as much as we could about it and in the end we felt comfortable that we didn't need to fund it this year because the money was there and needed to be spent and then next year we'll be back on track and i totally agree with you the school shootings are horrible and we don't want to have something like that happened here in belmont and we are really doing everything that we can to prevent that yes ma'am  douglas road between watson and gale this is a drop point for children walking to the burbank school they're walking around automobiles driving up there actually parking manhole story so i think this is needs to be addressed one of the houses across from me was the sidewalk for the hallway due to break into the microfilm one of the sidewalks in front of a house directly across from me was fix i thought this street is going to be fair but you know the street after it the street before it my sidewalk it's better if everything is broken so this is dangerous and i also have to say that this is an elderly man  who walks around douglas road up from another street i believe you guys have a picture he first walked within the aid then neighbors relatives he now walks with cane he is improving but he walks in the middle of the street because he can't walk on the side so you see him weaving in and out on safe parts of the so please help thank you thank you yes ma'am ellen sugarman town meeting member precinct date i'm very supportive of this i just have a question or comment relating also to sidewalks  our sidewalk was done within the last i'd say five years i live on cross street and yet this past winter i took pictures it's already starting to come apart i'm not in any way saying that our sidewalk should go first anything like that but is there quality control on the sidewalk because this was after a february storm so if we're going to spend the money let's make sure it's staying in good shape warranty so we'll investigate that we have people are our side that can advocate for that and more likely we would be ripping up those flags this amount and replacing  w director i'd also like to add it it also would also add that it would whatever you would put down on your sidewalk we would also like to say if you're putting straight salt on the sidewalk that affects the integrity of the sidewalk also so our recommendation would not would not to put down street salt on your sidewalk if you're putting straight salt on your sidewalk that is going to ruin the integrity of the sidewalk so we would recommend that you put a sand sand on the sidewalk with no salt in it a product that the you can go to the to the home depots they have stuff in there that they recommend it doesn't have a salt out of into it and that has a lot to do with it also so that could be i don't know what you're putting down your side i meant is depreciated we don't salt how ever there probably is a spot where water collects so if that water has anything in it even though we don't salt that could ti we come across a lot as we see a lot of people come into our yard they'll go right to the salt shed no take buckets of salt and then they go home and they put it on the sidewalk and then they're calling us a year later and saying oh the sidewalks no good well that's that's a lot of the what anne marie gave as a comment about thinking about the future in advance planning and every year we get up and we vote ma'am please every year we get up and we vote on a quick meant for the w and i commend your frugality and willingness to take an engine over a new vehicle and i hope that moving forward within the next ten years we will give them a building that's worthy of the equipment that we are buying and worthy of the people that work in that department and i hope that all the people that got up and spoke passionately about these temporary comment on maple avenue in maple terrace by butler we got a new sidewalk funded by the capital budget committee it is absolutely crumbling that is town property so whatever it was treated with and inquiries we've been told that it's been over a year and so that's out of warranty so it can't be replaced but it really needs to be replaced and that street was supposed to be done as well so you have a drop off from the you know the edge of any driveway to the street because the street was never resurfaced on so comment when you comment cross street please look that and take a look at and see what's going on there right again that could be could be from what i'd have to check with the custodial staff at the school and see what they're using there the town the d p w doesn't maintain that but i can check on that and look into it for you it's blue salt whatever it is it's bright yeah and that's you that is not treated with a salt mixture that's supposed to be a good use because that's what we use on our public sidewalks and we've looked into it and it's not supposed to homicide walk so we can definitely look into that ok let's rock it on that have a second ok second comment i know each of us looks at this list of streets and you know jumps up and down when our shows up and so i'm really glad to see that elma and harriet are here and that the policy has been changed so we are going to get some sidewalks and some curbing on specific streets harriet has three trees on it and those three trees are the one little spot where there is grass around it has fifteen trees so i was less heavily traveled so my question is about when you do the sidewalk and the curb there on harr t where does the money for the trees come from and how does that process integrated in with the street being redone well one can speak for when they do over the roadway usually if there's going to be new trees the tree warden goes out every year and evaluate you know we get so many trees a year and the tree wouldn't will evaluate to see if the tree will fit on the street sometimes there's certain streets or won't take trees but every year he goes out and evaluates the areas to see what trees can be accepted so what he does he'll go out usually during the month of february march to decide on the locations for trees we try to plant about one hundred fifty two hundred seventy five trees a year so i can check with tree wouldn't tom  wife and all his kin's and i'm sure that those streets initially had nice tree lined and sidewalks and we'd like to see those replaced so you have all up inc you were lucky we get a bear rooted tree and then again if anybody wants to donate trees will gladly accept donations like emery said you just have to get the donations cleared by a tree one because a specific trees that will accept great thank you great thank you yes  plus told meaning member precincts we i appreciate the capital budget items you for your work one sings that i'm missing in this and also missing from the prior presentation on very aggressive community goal of eighty percent greenhouse gas reductions and we should we would do more as a town to work on these projects to bring that forward however we can achieve that maybe a high an energy manager for the town or something along those lines so i really would like to see that and i'm also wondering i was cut off before by someone calling the question on the d p w station is there any money involved in there for energy efficiency upgrades or solar system or whatever that can contribute to our long term goal because this is now not a short term fix this is a long police station sure discussed and will be resolved in the next phase in design development and construction documents yes we've talked about energy yes we've talked about solar panels so we are aware of that and it is something that we will look into as we go forward someone stop me at the break and asked about the heating system at the police station all of that will be resolved going forward so good question in terms of the capital budget we respond to what the departments ask of us so all the department heads here tonight and they've heard your question so certainly something for them to be discussing within their departments and you know maybe next year we see more energy i will say that when we replace bo buildings we do look certainly for energy efficiency we have switched a number of our heating systems in our schools in particular from oil to gas so we do look at those kinds of things sink you and one you we are finally seeing w and community development we are finally getting some bike lanes painted on some of the roads we're still far behind our neighboring communities i'm in full support of it and i and i appreciate the hard work done i do have a question though on the streets and well i don't have any question with a list of the streets and i quite went remember if it was on the this year's budget or not now does not have a happy ending he almost escaped mr moderator glenn clancy director of community development mr market and i just had a moment because he knows that really he's the one who should be answering this question but i know him the consummate team player and so here i am so yeah my goal my goal for the rest of time meaning is to be mentioned more times than michael  a good amount of gas main replacement work some bad gas service replacement work common streets a road that is very challenging to excavate because there's an m w r a water main that runs down essentially the middle of that road makes it very difficult to do to work around that m w r e water main the special permanent that's required just to be able to excavate the road national grid has run into a lot of challenges doing their work as a result they've been there a lot longer than they expected to be  and the the residual effect of that is that community development cannot command yet behind them and reconstruct the road and so what we found out recently public works myself the police department and we had to sit down with national grid and they are unfortunately on a pace right now that's probably going to bring them into september which means that given the window that would remain between some point in september and the end of the construction season it's really going to be our national gri button that road up as best they can and make sure it can get through another winter because it's likely that we can't fix that road less you it's likely that we can't fix that road before the spring it's absolutely not the way we wanted it's a play out the common street work is actually it's already been captured in the pavement and contract the balance of that money is sitting there waiting for the contracted to be able to go into the road anyway to national grid up or is it just i don't know sometimes this permits that have time sense of deadlines or bonds or anything there that i think i think we took our best shot in that regard the last time we met with them which was about a week or so ago the reality is that where they are in that project right now it really is just a matter of them showing up every day and getting the work done there's no short cuts at this point there's a lot of work to be done up there in terms of services that need to be tied into the new main and given the logistics of how they go about that work it's really just grunt work at this point show up every day and get as much time you can every day but when you do the calculation you realise that you're probably looking at september before they'll be finished in a final just so  reasonably confident and i understand but what bothers me in it when i sat on the board too is when you do a street all over and then somebody comes in and cuts the street after it's been done  not going to hold you to it but you have a reasonable degree of reasonable confidence that once national grid gets out of the way and you finally get to do the street the street will be done and not just dug up again shortly the see what i can see barring emergency of cure you know what i can say steve to that is that once that road is paved what we will know is the water main work will have been done gas work will have been done any obvious  storm drain repairs will have been done and so if anything helps and happened subsequent to that road repair it would be an emergency situation it would be nothing that we were expecting and avoided it would be just something that comes up we have to deal with it you probably shouldn't be putting salt on some of that stuff until about a year or so afterwards one of things i don't think has been done and maybe you can tell me differently that every truck that comes in does this one is one of my jobs when i was working poor in corner every truck that comes in should be checked for slump tests and a piece taken for compression checks i think it's the quality of the concrete that's giving the problem is i do not think that you have taken compression  have been taken as in my right mr clancy langley it's the director of creative development on the projects that i've been involved with you know i'll call them the local projects and i can't speak for public works and how the contractor deals with the much larger sidewalk work that is done but in the stuff that i'm involved with all of the testing and all of the monitoring is done at the concrete plant there is nothing being done in the field that i'm aware of on the larger projects like that to polaroid belmont street project  t they are doing the infield testing and evaluation of the materials on the on the local projects we're not doing it on site but it's being done at the plant and i have a long walk to has the responsibility based on the specifications to make sure that the that what he's picking up at the plant meets that specification i'm sorry it probably isn't on the corner of belmont and grocery part of that sidewalk and there is flaking and failing also the only place to test that is one that truck dumps and if th one of things they can do from the plant they may or may not do it correctly going even if they do do it quickly and that truck comes on the site and they send ending wanted to it that makes a concrete fail also so it ought to be done on the site and these people should be notified is coming down wh or not oh elise there's a chance it's being done but i don't know if these people have been threatened to tell them that they're going to be that their stuff is going to be checked that's why all the sidewalks in my opinion failing and that's from my own experience and pouring thousands of  yes ma'am catherine precinct for autonomy member my question is when you speak into the microphone or thank question has to do with traffic calming as something you're looking at when you do pave roads given one of our expenses is to do some traffic coming over in the wynberg neighborhood we saw that in burbank the road that stands out to me this year is harriet since it connects between belmont street and to palo we know that feeds to a major bus stop area and travel by schoolchildren pedestrians so i'm wondering if that's part of the process now if it will become part of the process and if it's just more expensive to go back and have to mitigate after the fact since we see a lot of speeds increasing when the roads are repaved i think lancy director of community development that's ok the list that was generated for actually this is for f y nineteen so that work would be done next year calendar year nineteen i think that there's probably an opportunity to evaluate those roads to begin incorporating those types of things i can  date we haven't really looked at it that way as you as you know i mean we've gone back we've retroactively done work on school street we're going to do some work on cross street resurrect retroactively i think now that we've got to the complete streets policy  think one of the tasks that we have ahead of us is to you know sort of stablish this this criteria that we would use and then we would apply that criteria to certain roadways i'm not sure where it would come out based on that criteria because the criteria hasn't been developed yet but i think with complete streets i think with the effort right now that one of the town why traffic study that's occurring i think we are we're getting to the point where identifying where the problems are where the roads are that are getting an inordinate amount of traffic light traffic speeding and we're open to mitigating you know in ways such as high speed tables and things of that nature thank you and thank you for doing the complete s all right the polls open all those voting yes if you support the budget no if not moved that one million eight hundred ninety eight thousand three hundred dollars the appropriated for road paving projects said to be raised and expanded under the direction of the board of selectmen capital budget committee vote  all or portions of various town ways and to authorize the expenditure of five hundred forty two thousand four hundred forty three dollars as may be received from the commonwealth of massachusetts through the massachusetts department of transportation for the fiscal year commencing july one two thousand and eighteen and expanded under the provisions of chapter ninety of the massachusetts general laws and the vote of capital budget committee capital budget committee recommends unanimously action and the discussion saying no on all those in favor please say i was opposed no adopted unanimously articles sixteen as water enterprise fund pursuant to chapter forty four section fifty three f and a half of the general laws for water service said some to be expended under the direction of the board of selectmen and set appropriation to be funded by transfer of eight hundred twelve thousand committee unanimously recommends favorable action the capital budget committee mary mahoney chairman of the capital budget committee capital budget unanimously recommends favorable action and a discussion saying not all  eighty dollars be appropriated from the account classified as sewer and storm water enterprise fund pursuant to chapter forty four section fifty three and a half of the general laws for soarin stormwater services said some to be expended under the direction of the board selectmen and set appropriation to be funded by transfer of seven hundred sixty seven thousand three hundred thirty five dollars from super retained earnings and eight million five hundred fifty nine thousand five hundred forty five dollars from sewer and storm water fifty two thousand to pay the cost of water mean replacement program and the phase three including the payment of all costs incidental and related it to and that to meet the appropriation the treasurer with the approval of the selectmen i authorized to borrow set amount posole it to mass general law chapter forty four section eight subsection five or pursuant to any other enabling authority and to issue bonds the notes of the tone i'm sorry to issue bonds a received upon the sale of any bonds and notes issuance of such bonds or no its may be applied to the payment of cost approved by this boat in accordance with mass general launch up to forty four section twenty all we should be able to complete action next monday