also found that the industry bone at the university of pittsburgh is computer science department so essentially them for the object to was the sort of integrate the curriculum with the jobs that are out that sort of three things happened you know as a result of this you know the universities got money you know to put some or got money from these companies because you know they didn't think force sponsorship to customize the curriculum the students got jobs and the compan and colleges many times are training you for the last decade not the next one and that's a problem that we have in being on the school board here and peter sonship the student came to us recently and pushed for a linear algebra and organic chemistry course it was really hard to turn them down because here you have students pushing for the hardest courses that we've ever offered we were lucky enough actually to do one of them a consortium with my l and we're actually able to skype into one of their programs and in fact they were kind enough to allow us to use some of their books so we didn't have a major expenditure which i think is going to be the way of the future and we want to make sure that we're involved in things like that but you know i've i've seen so many jobs they go unfilled because our education system has failed to keep up i've ever read an article not too long ago that some of the top paying jobs in the country weren't even around ten years yeah ok and i you know more about that than i do for sure especially in your field in my field everything changes and i tell you the technology that we're doing today  innovate forty percent of their products so you know mine is much higher technologies and that's the whole thing is that you know what i think one of the things that i'd like to make sure we do and we got a lot of energy related stuff right now we've got mad energy a lot of have problem mean i just graduated from duquesne university with an i t certificate to teach now what degree was that was that the actual technology but it's funny because when come into the student here many of these students are so far beyond what we were taught in college and university graduate programs you know it's hard to understand how that works how can we teach the kids about and instructional over  the the internet when the kids in them or the not the very very hard for universities in that to keep up it's definitely challenging and that's what i think integrating you know we have companies like google in the region we need to sort of integrate them find out what is it they're to look to hive most of these companies in a five year plan they know where they're going five years up i think what's critical is let's sit with them analyze where their five year plans are where they see their research adding that and sort of tailor ourselves to that that's what we need to do exactly right if you plan for today by the time they graduate it's already you know past so we've got to be looking at twenty five years out and sometimes that's hard to know exactly what's going to be  in place at that point but that's where we need to and the style of education is also changed like that as you know well you know we have probably the lowest number of cyber school attending kids in any school district in western pennsylvania which is a real compliment to our instructor because i said i've you know i'm a graduate from peter's i think i told you that and i said ninety nine percent of the courses that are here and i'll were not even thought of when i went to school here of course that's before the earth's crust cold but the bottom line is we have as you say we have to plan further than our noses to figure out what's going to happen i remember one movie i think we discussed this one time that one movie used this the idea of the last company who made buggy whips was probably the best value within the world but it was done that part of our process was it was done with the introduction of automobiles  so what we're doing now and my son works at cmu with a software engineering institute and it's funny because every time i look at a computer i ask for his him put and he tells me where you can get there's been two years as yeah so i mean it's like i'm in now the cloud moving in  three years ago no one heard about a cloud and now i understand about fifty percent of the storage capacity is there so why the way now i don't know where it's going we need direction and education as well as our politics because our government is so far behind in trying to keep up with what's going on in the internet and for crimes and everything else that's going to actually exactly what we're looking at here is an opportunity to in fact work  we're here because of the fact that everybody is seeing ads both sides of the ads going along and in fact discussing benefits and drawbacks from each side of the  i want to talk about some of the not if you want my absolutely ok i got you got your information in the other day and i'm truly amazed about some of this stuff because of the fact this is the first time that i've ever remembered in history that america looks down on people that are successful you know and we have an entire organization that in fact looks towards complaining that people in fact know what they're doing  and i'm sorry for me that's unheard of whatever and whenever you condemn people that are successful in providing jobs and then look up to the people and try to give people things and you know once again no one's trying to say if you need a year but it's you know good ideas hard work discipline those are the things you know integrity those are the things that you know that american spouses right you come here you know you have the opportunity that if you work or do you do things right what you know what one of the things that really fascinated me is that the opposition party has in fact gone with the idea that we should open up our borders to allow everybody is ok for years they're against voter i d and everything else mexico for example the second highest income producing concept in the country of mexico one of one is their state run oil company the second is the money they receive from the united states from the people that are here sending back to and i was a b c did a program not too long ago and it was it was quite i looked at it and thought well what is this because they did a small program on a village about how they had to make their own tacos now because before whenever there were more immigrants in this country sending back more money they could buy them from someone else the knowledge village has to make them i will find a problem with that i mean there's a problem enough that the media and everything touts that kind of thing but then on the other hand your opponent looks at you and says you've taken pennsylvania jobs and taken them overseas so let me clarify and i think clarify that you know i found the company so first you know several years only in the u s and we do we do we just saw for eight offices here many years later you have a an office in india ninety four percent of my spent is in the emotional work that's what it is and that's the hits i'm taking i mean look at all the companies that are expanding globally every single company is operations made almost that coca cola has it it's just the fact that in takes they just try to pick on something that makes it on reasonable and this is one of those that i don't believe passes the reasonable man but on the flip side here's what i think you know when when my opponent hits me on this he's been in office for five and a half years he's raised spending by five billion dollars and how do you do that by increasing taxes by two point four billion and debt by two point seven billion just to put it in perspective two point four billion adds to more than a million dollars every day office or five and a half years fast a one million second day two million three five and a half years later two point four billion that's the kind of stuff that drives jobs away from you know when you have the highest taxes in the whole country pennsylvania person who has come to this country has always had a tie to their homeland a look at the italian americans look at the anguish the irish to everyone and they've always tried to do well once they got here but they also tried to share the wealth and then new york at general motors for example got billions from this administration and they now have moved their innovation technology plant to china and they've moved eleven other organizations and operations to china after this is ministration spend our tax dollars giving them but i don't hear anybody complaining about that as i don't hear anybody  there is there is car industry is i just looking at a o l the other day like mitsubishi they expect them to be leaving the united states market because they're not doing well those are a bunch of american jobs that the people who work in those those car dealerships and service those vehicles and why are they complaining about that why aren't they doing something about that we're throwing tons and tons of money and general motors and chrysler some of their biggest profits have been gained but no one's looking at the fact that their profits are coming because the government is buying their vehicles so we're guaranteeing we are not only gave them billions but the government is buying their vehicles to guarantee them that they love profitable so now all of us i mean why isn't i can understand why success is being diminished and and people that are barely making it are always going to be oh you know that these are the people who need our well if you destroy all the people that are making the money pretty soon those people won't have any opportunity whatsoever you know it in the way i look at it i don't know when i hired my company i want to have somebody who's done it before you hired a v p of sales you want to have somebody who is sold to the level of your company  or if you hire a project manager somebody who's managed the kind of projects you do when you when you want somebody in life to be a public official you want somebody who's been successful somebody in jobs and economy is the number one issue why not hire somebody who has the experience who can make other successful too that's the thing criteria i would use you can get what you can't predict the future all the time but the past is a good indicative somebody has been successful they created jobs that work hard done it with work with integrity that's a good indicator of what it's going to be down the future and that's what i would i'm not going to hire somebody off the street with noakes i don't want to you know a person doesn't have the experience to take the role that i want and the the what would you hire a teacher who was like you know you want somebody who's got the experience to make it forward and that's what we want to do well you know what i mean and it makes common sense that if you're going to invest your funds in that individual you want that individual to be able to do this job ok and i said this is the first time you know whenever you have ten percent of the population paying seventy one percent tax is going to somebody somebody better pay attention that is ninety percent paying twenty nine percent so i mean if those ten percent don't continue doing what they're doing the others are going to be lost and that's something that this country better wake up to and hopefully they will in this election well let's take a look at some of these other things ok because i said some of them are rather interesting  back and for most of my adult life and the bottom line is there is a playbook and you sit there and you take the fundamental ideas that people have social security benefits for the future things like that and then you tell them that the that that just one side or the other the politicians bring things up that in fact try to get a shock value and they try to make you feel uncomfortable bought that person so you'll vote for me i mean the idea is like the media you know one time at whatever the media used to be honest and used to tell the news not trying to make the news america was going along and everything was fine we were number one in almost every area and then over the past thirty or forty years that changed because now they want to be fluff and stuff and all of a sudden now education has dropped our mass kills of jobs significantly thank god for for there won't countries because we'd be lower than them but the bottom line is it's not money you know whatever i went to school here our teachers were getting five and six thousand dollars a year that's not the case now but the bottom line is that hasn't necessarily bought better educational skills no i agree an education for me it's one gave me the ability to be successful but i see that for all of us enough of my children what every generation going forward so in like you said i think when i came here we were probably most close to the top of the world now i hear an education f sky's the limit on their salary and benefits if you have a c i used to have a teacher who taught economics and he was a tough teacher no one ever wanted this class but you had to take it if you're in a college for parrot and had three different groups but if you're in college where you had to take economics but after taking his course for two years all of my educational processes for master's degrees i've never had to buy another economics book and that's the kind of teacher that i want these kids to absolutely i want i want them to be able to go and save money based on what they've learned not having to spend money because they didn't learn  then levin days later he goes and buys the pension for the first year and now he's vested you need a five year vesting it's five years is what he's being that he goes and read eleven days after the first he goes and retroactive buys the entire pension and this is an article in capital wire yesterday i'm going to forward it to you when you can look at it to get a chance but that's a simple pledge that was made but he completely broke it and you can follow that up with the same thing w he made four payments back and since then he's kept this is it's just you know when you run us a reformer what people want is somebody who's going to stay true to their promises not only in the campaign but do what is right and bring prosperity voted against members of his own party and authorizing public private partnerships for transportation he voted against the two thousand and twelve two thousand and thirteen budget he voted against authorizing the repayment unemployment due to the federal government he voted against congressional redistricting he voted against not hiring undocumented workers yep  voted against public assistance program the amendments on that one and there to adjust that program and he voted against amending the healthcare facilities at the up i mean i'm sitting there amazed that at all those votes he won against most of his own party it's amazing try to figure that out was yeah and there's like you know whether whether there's bipartisan support he's voted against i'll give you a classic example that it was only about a handful of folks who voted against formation of an ethics committee independent ethics and he votes against it so i it's so it's a pattern and i and i tell you what bill when people elect you you know you're representing them in terms of votes so that's your record and that's what you need to be judged on some stupid people applying for the job here i think the voters need to look at their votes and their records i was a mount lebanon commissioner take a look at what happened that i was able to reduce taxes we've used and look at his record spending you know debt increases during the whole time taxes increase and then look at the ethics out of the equation senate we seem to have as i mentioned earlier we look at successful folks and we seem to as a society look down on them for providing many of the functions that our government has and then we as a and let's face it you know we've we've had people in very high offices violate the trust of the public you know and endurance just on both sides i don't want to just say it's on one side or the other it's on both sides but integrity seems to be a thing that we look back on fondly it doesn't seem to be something that many of the politicians have now because you know i've  of the amendments of the co actor or if he's trying to push it out but we're in western pennsylvania been a part of the commissioner for this county for so many years it's crazy we're going to take a break ok and in fact we'll be smiles thanks for coming back once again our guest today is roger that we're into the middle of the election and they this is a that's why you're here hopefully after the election you'll be able to come back forward that we have  the differences between yourself and your opponent ok once again you've done many things you've provided hundreds of jobs here in southwest pennsylvania as well as a few in your homeland and i said when the idea that we talked about earlier in the first part of the program that success is being looked down as something that's wrong and i just to me you know i'm sorry i just my father won every brought me up and i always thought my father was  guy in the world up until the time that i was smart enough to realize that he knew much more than i and he brought me up not to emulate those people that were unsuccessful but trying to look at those people that were successful and find out what they're doing in the last four years especially the whole view of the country has changed yeah to the point where you're searching for mediocrity because of the fact that someone will take care of you i can't i personally can't fathom that but that is what a lot of our political base is praying for that you'll sit up and sit down and shut up and not do anything up until the time that i need to have election time because once again who said it we don't need an id to demonstrate that you're a citizen but we need one for medical care and i said i did i can't even comprehend for people to sit there and take a shot at a person who has provided hundreds of families for not only their incomes but their future and everything else yeah and i tell you what and in the key issue right now is the economy almost  and i've been to ten thousand doors since the primary in you know with doors at your door knocking on doors and and that's the best way for me particularly bill because you know i'm a guy who came from india and i think that face to face contact has been great for me because sometimes people are not sure does he have the same believes as me you know how to see react this way when i go face to face i'm there to answer any questions you have any concerns and it's great and i love it so ten thousand doors economy still that is the number one issue businesses look in a competitive manner if you are the highest taxing state where are they going to go that are going to come here he needs to understand that when you're already the highest taxing states to add taxes like you did two point four billion you look  leaving the state those are things that we need to be doing make sure we have reform he opposes that so i don't think he understands the fundamentals of what it takes to create jobs is just and that's what you know the voters need to look at the record for pension he takes it now he said he wouldn't they can't he takes it now said he wouldn't take the automatic berets he takes it now so there's a lot of stuff he's talked about that you know when he ran on the campaign it was one thing and shortly right after it was a coming different story and people need to take that into consideration and then look and we talked a little bit about integrity and as and i mentioned to you as a c people look to you not to just say that what integrity and look at your actions what do you going to do when things are tough and i met mention you build your character during that jesica of times that's what i look at to say what is a person dubai's actions not just the words and in this case you've got to look at the actions of one candidate well i know that you've spent a lot of time in our community here but  you have a lot of support that is as growing as is the support for the entire party as we're seeing in all every possible of the pew studies and everything that's going on right now the polls have a resurgence and tonight is one of the more interesting debates that i mean the vice president candidates this should be fascinating to watch i would have i would imagine everybody should pay attention to this one because this gives you an idea of the depth of both sides absolutely it's going to it's going to be interesting well let's discuss that's of let's go back from a year you mentioned your wife was a surgeon from here for the past twenty four years ok so i knew that there was a tradition of medical care in the family and your daughters go to my lebanon school system they go to winchester my older daughter stan and my technology than the old supercomputer and it's funny because the students don't realize that the super computer back then would take up about this room exactly when in fact now you're your laptop  the same thing so whatever we thought i meant when i started in real estate here in the township back in one thousand nine hundred seventy two i had a texas instruments computer that cost almost seven hundred dollars and that was the cutting edge and now that same stupid thing i go by the dollar companies what kind of jobs do your companies have that are hard to find people for i mean what specific kind of job i tell you what we find is that mentioned to you we do custom software we understand their their secret sauce automate it integrated with that existing software and done it over with them so they own it we don't own the own proprietary ip but that's what we do hey we help companies automate their secret sauce so that they have a competitive advantage so what we find hard is this stuff i can find really good people who are good clients scales one of the sales side and i can find good technologist work how do these basic processes work out of they interact with users so that's the integration that's going on right now it's the management technology integration that's happening in the i t field it's interesting you say that because  twenty years ago thirty years ago a liberal arts education was very much looked down upon because of the fact that you aren't a specialist in anything and then all of a sudden we seem to go into that specialised field where people lost the art of liberal arts they lost touch with geography and then the history of that area and everything else and then we seem to be swinging back a little bit towards getting more of the liberal arts in the specialty field exactly that's exactly what's going on now if you're a specialist i would say that makes your makes your job profile riskier because there's only a limited number of jobs you condemn but if you have expertise in four or five different areas one you of evolution it's not the same as it but what we go through these cycles  in the school district we are always looking for ways to keep on k whenever you head into the pennsylvania senate ok this is an organization which is one of the largest out of any state in the which i have better pay then most of it's private counterparts i think california and maybe want to maybe new york have more people representing like california thousand two hundred fifty in california represents about four three hundred eighty to four hundred thousand i think but because of the of the size and then the sheer numbers there legislature is very very top heavy what do you see as some of the problems facing you in that job you know when you talk about the size let me first tell you like texas one example they have part time legislators they don't get paid these full time benefits in fact they meet every other year so that's that because you know one of the biggest issues that we have is i want to start and say that pension costs are high for you and for the people elected in office if i can lead a change would be elected officials and say here to change that we can look for let's go do it doesn't have to go the entire way you know most companies have made the change to a defined contribution but one thing i'm clear on is those who have promised the pensions need for the tour so that's an obligation oh but right now we're not sending the money aside you know you look at it we are underfunded by forty billion dollars so that's one of the changes i want to make sure we start funding this that property at least because that's critical the pension that's old boy our seniors and republican kick this can down the road and in fact it's going to hit us greatly in the next couple of years all the school systems especially as you said i totally agree that the people that have been promised the pensions should in fact what's it like when you when you re do some things in life you can control and this booklet can help from keeping your family healthy to saving for retirement or your free copy now from the american diabetes association because we want everyone to be healthy and thanks for coming back once again the final leg of our program here with roger we were talking about pensions for public employees part of the break and i want to go back on that because of the fact of the devastating effect that it's going to have  peter sonship is luckily because of our business manager and other activities that we've had in the past we were luckily to be able to present ourselves in a manner that we were able  thousand so whatever you come down to trying to figure out how to cut costs it's almost impossible you know the transportation the buildings and everything costs so much the one thing that we've had here is an outstanding staff and you have the opportunity to meet a few of them here as the morning but this is this is the tip of the iceberg this is how our staff is and which makes our school successful being one of the top ten in the state but the key here is the pension program is going to weigh heavily on what the schools are able to do you know in the past whenever schools had financial problems of course the first thing that goes the sports programs are the music programs of the band or whatever we've sort out a pledge or not to do that we try to work with our and i use it and as i mentioned earlier our linear algebra and organic chemistry we're adding courses where other schools are cutting back we have the opportunity that we were able to said based on our financial responsibility in the past and i wish i could claim that because i've been i was just really just on the school board now for about a year but we were able to save enough money were able to reconstruct our debt to the fact that we save about four mils taxes every year and and what people look at it as a mill and if you're talking about a mill in the scott tantrum area that brings about two million dollars to the charter's valley school system but when you're talking about a mill here that only brings about three hundred sixteen thousand dollars so we're not talking about apples and apples we're talking about apples and grapes so why worst the world we're talking about pinching pennies or or making sure the things are working right we're talking about having limited budgets but what we've done with our limited budget is provided good education what we want to do is continue not only good but excellent education is of the future and you know i said with companies like yours providing new and interesting jobs taking us into the future this is the kind of education we need but the problem that we have is this retirement and the problem pennsylvania has of course is that the judges are on the same program that the teachers are on so they cut that retirement they don't get a part by that apple either well first of all i like you said we talked before to me teachers are good teachers absolutely critical for the future so you know when it when it when you have a good teacher you was made sure we need to honor the commitment but we have to look forward and say what can we do going forward and that starts with new employees coming in and which is sort of why i have my foot down because that's a way i can go into the leadership and elected d they made these changes about fourteen fifteen years ago and only now the makes sense is again for new employees the mix of defined benefit to defined contribution changing that so it takes fifteen years into the well you know when we talk about the different things that are coming to a judge in western pennsylvania energy is certainly one of them and just as some disturbing news and believe me i'm sort of split between this is like a double edged sword the energy the gas drilling and everything else came in here late gangbusters they were throwing up things and they were going to plan on doing this and they were buying up rights and property rights and things like this that's all sort of calmed down though because i heard the other day that they were planning sixteen or eighteen wells next year and now they're down to about three or four because the government x was at ninety three or so whatever it whatever it was i forget exactly the number now that in fact that the state was trying to force everybody to live under the same rules so there would be a level playing field for the gas companies safe water we protect all those for the future of our children but also as being a local commissioner i believe in local control so i think there is some balance that we can we can strike there that allows the local control you know and i think if you know if you're going to put a well in a residential area right next to a school and the local zoning has got that you've got to allow the local officials to know best with a community to be able to influence that and when you're talking about maybe fees at the macro level maybe that's something that the state can say this is how the fee structure would work across the board so these companies know if they can plan their financials in a more systematic manner across the state but there has to be local control well one of the problems that we have of course i just got upset with there's a lot of there's not only that but also you got to look at a lot some of the revenue goes to philadelphia we don't have drilling in fact and yet this is a year well i'm going to give you an opportunity to in when the company's doing well he was able to address all the issues so if you have an economy that is very successful we're going to have money for education very very critical we fund education because it's a future infrastructure issues are half or economy and jobs education and infrastructure so that is sort of my my focus as i do this and as you evaluate the two candidates who run for this you know we are both applying for a position a state senator and you've got to look at a record as we do this i was on mount lebanon commissioner i was able to lower taxes twice i was i was able to reduce the debt during might my opponent matt smith has voted to raise spending by five billion raised taxes and debt look at the integrity ensures he made all these campaign promises not to take the pension not to take the health insurance or not to take automatic pay rates broken all of those and even vote against an ethics committee so those are some of the factors you've got to look at i've been the senate well there's only a few things left and one of those things certainly is the idea that we have the elections coming up in a few weeks to tonight is a vice presidential debate which shall once again should be very interesting but we have some other issues too we have this is fire prevention month so we have to remind everybody to fix your your smoke detectors new batteries it breast cancer awareness month is another big issue and i said it's amazing whenever you have the opportunity to look around how many of your friends or relatives are affected by that terrible disease and we want everybody to pay attention to that and other than that i think that we're go politics in western pennsylvania