table discussion the round table typically is something that we we do when there's a topic that warrants a bigger discussion or arthurian legends or write their way and this particular as opposed to our weekly like roku and boxee which we can talk about over the air computer phone tablets readers newspapers magazines and then there's also aggregators of bring it all together let's start off with movies and i listed here eight different is my wife and i used to go to a lot of movies and what's the problem with going to the movie theater i think anymore people talk about the price i think the experience is ruined in a lot of experience in a lot of instances cell phones ruin a lot of it  good i think that the sound systems for a while in movie theaters were terrible they're getting better again as so i mean for me still occasionally go to the theater a lot of times watching still buy on blu rays and i don't i don't mind going out and buying something simply because of the fact that look along we're seeing previews an advertisement for movies coming out in theaters and the amp everything up so much to try to get you to go because of the limited release to make money and you have a limited schedule going make any kind of bang for and every time i on like i was going to be great and then when it doesn't hit those expectations and i'm in the theater i'm often times i'm like really wasn't that good and really care about whatever you know watch a second time either at home whatever i'm just popping it in to take a look at it and of like more  i'm now with the event film when i go to see a film minute used to be for the most cars absolutely the avengers i brought my family we all went together i put the kids together we saw spider man i mean those are things that i'm going to see a film for because it in my mind still does have a difference even though you know we've got those set ups or whatever but frankly the thing that's frustrating me the most are that advertisements before a film i don't want to sit and watch thirty five minutes of commercials for coca cola and you know making a donation i mean remember when i used to be just will rogers institute and the ushers would walk through the theaters from really as more four months i'm sorry but i mean that was one thing and they'd have previews for films and now we're counting them remember we predict we're going to have eight previews for movies and seven commercials and that frustrates me but i understand there has to be a prophet there understand that has to happen but that started to and i think the community aspect of going to movie i don't know if it's if this audience reactions were bigger or it's obviously different but i remember as a kid going to see star trek to enterprise comes up the whole movie theater erupting i remember going to see midnight showings of the star wars  see a movie now at eight o'clock or nine o'clock at a date and i don't i sorry now i got kids and like i'm like oh yeah i get to hit the sack tonight you know you go to sleep you know my kids are up at seven o'clock in the morning no matter what so i'm not going with puter i watch i watch often on my computer more or less as background and when i'm doing something else on the computer like that's when i pull up my netflix or amazon prime any kind of the streaming services when i'm actually physically on the computer that's primarily just watching backlog television shows oftentimes and finding and there's so many television shows on during the week that hits it's tiring i don't i don't want to feel obligated have to watch in a certain time slot so whenever it comes to  that it's easier for me to watch and one lump sum i like you would do for a movie i don't want to have to sorry this the show is going to be on h b o tonight at eight p m this movie is going to be out there i want to be able to have the luxury of i can watch whatever i want on the can and i don't i can't phone if i want to on any t v in the house but it's still not i mean you can do it you can make a media server some of that and still not simple it's still not easy to do and you know i'm a gate i love watching eight gig of memory on it and that i take up with eight or ten c d s now that fills it up you know done and that is going to keep expanding and we don't have a name for what is a terabyte drive correct name that name didn't exist three years ago or four ago when i was buying a movie with digital copy actually i made it will copy and now it's all ultraviolet so when i want to stream it i can instead of having that file there that exists because let's face it in ten years ultraviolence going to feel they're going to be replaced by some other thing and then i'll have to rebuy that garbage again so we're doing that actually a question for you talked about i mean you like you like watching your your telecast commentary and all that stuff yes we're talking about hell devices what about the movies that are offering the tabl getting what happened no it was even like playing a game what it was like predict what's going to happen next and you could watch a replay of a really crummy digital file of pretending to do the same thing like this is stupid i think i watched it for ten minutes and i'm going to watch a television show how is it as far as sink in the relative alignment with it was pretty much along with what happened but it was just boring it was boring what i think is that as those things get cooler red there was one in there where the director was watching along with the it was the premier of the show or something like that or a movie and you can interact with the directors and you know i should do mystery science theater should do that and then they can have them sitting there and on hulu plus if you sign up for that and it basically puts all that stuff together and then and when you go to the screens also if it shows you all the things that are that are on in graphic form and i think that as more of the i don't know why that's not taking off on something that's outdated or you know that was the same failure with the netflix streaming initially and then losing all those programs and why now flex i think stock is in in the toilet break down but i personally don't have hulu plus but every time i think about it i want to get more and more geared towards it but i find it if i miss the shows during the week and i don't have a service like hulu plus often they're not letting you watch that even on demand until week after it's aired so i can watch the next me i don't find myself watching a lot of television anymore even even before all this i mean we have we have satellite in the house but i don't find myself sporting events cajun reruns here or there but we find ourselves watching a lot of a lot of the netfli it's something you want to do with subscription per episode and talked about now in future t v i would certainly hope that producers would think about that at least offer that kind of service because once these online stream going to start to like n b c with the olympics but they'd have to shell out a lot of money to do that i think one of the main things and hold them back is advertising because when they do that the advertiser liable if i'm paying the premium to watch that channel like h b o go would be i don't want to  that's all right but i guess it to me the the the big issue with with this is that they're trying to pattern a lot after the music industry the ninety nine cent model  because that's not failing that's still making more money but i guess i don't know it's going to i'm very curious to see what eventually wins out i think one of the reasons why i was interested in the show now is that this is probably the messiest time five years or three years when i look back and say oh we know everything's probably going to be organized but i don't i'm curious to see if it's going to be a subscription model which i think for a lot of people would be the way to go and i know like i said in our house netflix is pretty much on a good bit of time with us want to market which is a yankees fan is great for you as a pirates fan if i buy it a lot of games are blacked out i tell it i'm stuck having to watch it on sports and i'm not buying it and i'm not buying that nearing the d v d blu ray of course whereas i like having the physical copy it looks great on the bookshelf it looks great in the d v d case that kind of thing but i see the convenience of having the digital copy of it on a tablet or as if i just bring the tablet with like that but i believe you said in a previous show you can physical books near that price range of additional cost if i want to go to have price books i can still get it for cheaper than a copy and i have that physical book with an asset to sell right become something i hated his book  good i can sell it it's only fifty cents but still if it's relatively similar earn interest and worried about that the cost of the company is going to be greater now for my personal space i'm looking at my daughter's room and she's a hoarder she  has thousands of books in her room and that space is becoming more and more contracted for her i'm starting to think ok idea for you and i'm going to segue over here bonnie i am the comic book collector which is and that was one of the topics we're going to go but i'm not going to end up breaking the ice you go right ahead for me purchasing comic books again because it's an asset because it's a collector thing it's still something that exists in the medium as a physical form the value of a digital comic book is zero the cost of it is is higher as a paper format but the investment potential is greater mailings long people i'm finding a rarer cop a version on a misprint or whatever and that becomes something i can sell and i don't see that attraction there with comics now with that said i have five eight digital comics that i've gotten for free on my tablet and the little company that i'm a fan  actually producing books that were never available in a digital format from you know twenty years ago when the company folded they still have that completed work available and instead of going back to the reprint they're going to sell them digitally that's a great idea and it's not just a like an i tunes version that includes an extra track on there it's something else that was never available in a format to be mass produced the demand of it didn't exist to make it into a physical format but as a digital since it's cost less twelve bucks and i'm going to jump on so that i mean as far as self publishing goes i think it's brilliant there's no investment corporation behind that they just say here will advertise for you and we'll take twenty five percent your profits or twenty five percent of your cost and we never have to print a book it's sort of the next step of book printing on demand and it's great for i think all the books would be interesting just because of the collection  collectors value of them whereas with digital books i can see an incentive to perhaps oversee the costs of war get rid of the cost of the digital print the physical print why am i going to how industries like that that are collector's type of and regular basis how they can how they're going to adapt to these kind of models because if everything starts becoming digital and there is no collector's value to because everything on the outside of somebody's hoarding a digital file not making it available to somebody else then that is out and with other other markets to how that's going to all play out i guess the next there are a few models in this comic book industry now there's people who are selling digital available they're selling print copy and then d c actually sells a sealed print copy with a code inside of it but a collector value you don't open that because then it decreases the value it's not the mint condition in box but to open it to get the jewel copy out so it's this weird quandary or are they something interesting to me is they're still not releasing numbers on digital sales so let's say batman number one or at least last year there's no information ten copies or thousand copies or one hundred thousand copies that release information is very private but the physical copies are public the next month so i don't know how well or poorly anything's doing but from a standpoint where it's already cost is zero that's all the time we have today we can only have to pick this topic up again later because we didn't even hit on magazines music all sorts of other things such mouths so you have to watch out for another edition