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go again it is march twenty second it does not feel like it the red sox open to fenway park in twelve days it certainly does not feel like that that's going to be a possibility either but always a glad to be joined here howie mccloud and how he does not feel like spring in the calendar says we it's spring but well you know i will i almost put a pair of shorts on the commission today because i knew it was you know spring the second day of spring and i walked outside and here my nose froze and i went back in to put my long pants on yeah and you know you just went two minutes without taking a breath yeah it's a gift unbelievable she got to go to it again there it is there it is and and look at this to check out so this is the sports illustrated cover that's going out to most of the country in the course of the red sox outfielders ob their own it this is among the many reasons i think when you look at this red sox team that they're considered one of the favorites to win the american league this year would you agree with that verse yeah definitely you know there's you know do you think about andrew  thinking about hitting him third in the lineup that's incredible you know for i mean he still has rookie status intact i mean so you know he didn't have enough of bats last year because of the injury that he did suffer so i mean you know you think about it and i don't know if that's an that's something they shouldn't do maybe they should hit him lower in the lineup again and i just did but there i mean they you know he's either going to head second or third from the beginning of the year so there's a lot of expectations on him and john farrelly you know down and down in spring training you know people question this you know i mean everybody just assumes he's going to have a good year when everybody just assumes he's going to be one of the best outfielders in baseball in your business sunday and he said yeah you just have to have that confidence about him you have to have big things from him in the middle of the order now they don't have david ortiz there so somebody has to step up there in the middle of the order and you know so it's he's going to be very important obviously to produce that you know duplicate that thirty home run type of production again and then jackie bradley he put on some muscle you know he's already big guy anyway but he put on some muscle ben attendee also put on some muscle both of them came in there with some big biceps this year so i  have it said yeah i mean bennett said he really you know it was like there was there was this video on twitter that you know of him doing you know bicep curls and stuff in you know instantaneously you looked at him you're like wow he really looks a lot bigger than last year and when you that and so we'll see with him but yeah in jackie bradley is we know he can be a streaky player but you know if he can hit twenty six home runs again that's a successful season so yeah this is one and then defensively they're one of the but not necessarily fielders that they could field in fenway but they couldn't field in the big parks and that was you know they were built just for fed way you know it's a like a jim rice for example you know but these guys they can cover the big fields and cover the big chris you've been down there now this is what you're set six or seven season covering the red sox what was it like being down there in florida this year without the presence of david ortiz how much different was that well leigh actually say something so i was sitting in the you see there on the radio or we were watching the game on the couch the other day i don't know we're driving a car listening on the radio or watching on the couch and somebody said something about david ortiz and when's he going to come to camp and i said to my wife christie i said can they beach but you know he's clearly retired and i you know i mean there were there was questions about it all offseason i can't come back and come back and i just never saw you know i'd still go see it he's not going to get bored he's you know so you ask about the different feeling different atmosphere i guess maybe you could sense a little bit in the players the first you know a few days there hamley really talked about and you know he came in with a david or t shirt on and you know he talked about how he was just on the phone with them and how much they're missing him and everything but do you really you know it didn't really it didn't really feel it is as it is you know you didn't really feel that he was gone like you know i mean it just felt like normal business as spring training went on and you didn't really question like where's david ortiz or you aren't thinking about him like as you know i can't believe he's not here i mean it was just normal business and you look at their off i mean i just don't see why i mean they're going to it's going to be some drop off a little bit but they should be fine all fans of yeah i'm going to going to say with bennett's n d playing a full season as opposed to you know a handful of games i mean that's also a number that we don't know what that's to become you know with this begin to going to become big numbers small numbers but you know again like you said i feel the same way i think they've got the lineup they've got the bats yeah like i said a little bit of a drop off but what they've lost in the drop off there i think they made up and getting sale pitching in i think the pitching staff will definitely make up for that also once it gets intact but we'll start to get a lot of questions now that when they cite say a we looked at the lineup and pitches a that's not that worried me more than the ending of the drop off well it's you know when you say pomerantz i i wrote about a right after the season i said you know i just don't like any situation where there's an elbow and they described it in two different ways but then he had the stem cell shot now we're all happy that you know david price is doesn't have his and wasn't forced to have a shot or anything well what does that say about palmer's to that he did have the shock and i just look at this situation and i wrote about this from day one of the off season or close to a day one of the season you look at it and you look at the cars and situation last year where they said he's fine in came back and he tried to fish and then all of a sudden he's not fine and he's in for tommy john surgery one day later i just don't have a good feeling with palmer and in this in this david price that you're asian i haven't had a good feeling with either now when you do go to you know to you know obviously well you know tremendous doctors you know dr james injures you know you do think that if they don't see anything and they don't say that you need a shot then ok it looks good i just don't like the situation now and he still hasn't gotten on a throwing program yet it just doesn't look good to me i don't i don't like either one of them so it's about depth and i don't know if they have enough depth in the baggage some and of course then there was the controversy involved with the pod dres you know that they didn't disclose all of his medical records and yet there was a moment there when to browse he was actually given the chance to what ricin the trade or take back at least  eight or so that's been those of the highly touted prospect who i've already seen a lot of prospect lists looking to possibly be a breakout candidate is early as the season in the major leagues why do all of this is true and all the things you're saying chris is true and you're the feelings you had why didn't he offered you why didn't he take back yes but it was when he had the kids why did you say i'll let the trade go through as is despite the checkered medical history for pomeranz yeah you look at it from back in that situation back in they made the trade in mid july and they could have rescinded the trade in early august right after the trade deadline which the trade in last year is august first instead of july thirty first at that time they didn't have pitching i mean they had to make the trade for him because they didn't have a starting pitcher i mean clay buchholz was horrendous they moved him to the bullpen i mean obviously he picked up steam in the last month or a month and a half but they didn't know that at that point they also had i mean right after that incident have a pomerantz where they could've rescinded the trade stephen wright went out for the whole year i mean he that those medicals to like why exactly what was the what was the what exactly were the potteries hiding or what did they not fully disclose from the onset maybe it wasn't as serious and dabrowski looked last year has continued to be i mean as brian johnson who was in in dombroski talked highly about him before the season but obviously he just wasn't even in the state of mind at that point even after he returned from the get back in still interested i've been i was and still get some other trade going that's what they should have been able to do try to rework the tree but they were given that option of rework it they were given the option of rescinded or not and then they just weren't left with enough s that time so i don't know like i said it's a monday how much they were granted now you know yeah it's like sweating twenty but you know it's just if they were brett i know it was for luxury tax reasons but do they regret dealing bucholtz two so early on before you know before that you know the spring training even started i personally did i thought they got rid of him too early because anything can happen in spring training right and the sad part is how you were recently dumped a matter of these was it was a money dump that's the only reason i mean because otherwise you'd love to have where if you're over it so much you can have vengefully affect your draft picks for so many years in a row to exactly have to do with console your whole view over so so if you're if you i mean so it goes up to like a fifty percent tax if you're zero or three consecutive years so that's fine and dandy if you're going to get charged money which they have been fine to charge that money in the past but also now with this new collective bargaining agreement certain things like you know draft pick compensation plus you've got to look  all going to be making some serious salaries so this year they want to be under it because they know they're going to be over in the next couple years so i mean that's the situation they're at now yes now there now they're banking on who has a pitch since two thousand and fifteen as their major death star right now which me personally i still look at brian johnson and i i've always been a brian johnson guy i think he's got a good feel for pitching and i think he's got a good mindset a good feel and he's he's got a good repertoire he's got good stuff how do you look when you were down there so the thing was he just wasn't i didn't see him pitch macho because you know i mean it's funny when you're in spring training the clubhouse opens in like the yeah but you have to be down there because you got to get this interview whatever so you know basically i think it's just a command thing with him in for more talk to some people it's just minor things with him right now just get the command down certain things that they just want to refine and pathak it but i mean ultimately if they don't want to put it on the forty man roster right at the beginning of the season he could start a game right at the beginning the season i don't think there trust henry owens to start a game and i remarkable how it was so highly touted and it seems like for the last here what if you said he cut it the ocean with a beach ball yeah yeah the lowest it's ridiculous but you know you look at it in a lot of it had probably has to do with repeating his delivery is because he's so he's so tall and he's obviously very skinny and actually eight so he ate like a lot of meat and he drank a lot of milk to put on size to help him with that but it did this offseason so he did put on some weight it hasn't time i mean he might come around when he's twenty six or twenty seven which you know that doesn't help them now but you know i mean you can't give up on him i guess but he's not going to help him this year that's that's what i think you know i thought i remember reading something that david price made a comment that if he was younger he would have had an operation what does that mean does that mean that he really does need something done about where you one of the i think you know i you know it's funny when you say that how we because i operation and i'm like well what does that mean do you need one if you do what good pitching all year if you're like borderline needing something even if it to be tightened something up but just that scared me when i go and you look at how many innings he's thrown in his career and he's want i think it is so i mean so he's been hoodwinked for a while now and he's been thrown two hundred innings every year he obviously through a lot you know is growing up too so i just don't like the i don't know i when i don't know what you want to get in with the with the physical stuff i mean he's obviously it sounds like david price and you know we have a picture of it we can throw up as part of our areas there's a price there's that look to we'll get to that but aside from that i mean that's obviously after one of his more lackluster performances last year although you know his final numbers weren't that bad last season in his first season in boston but first let's talk about the physical stuff i mean part of it is and how to play it off what you were saying how you maybe you know part of the reason he said he was younger he would have had the operation and now he's not is it that you know i think david price is still trying to get used to this pain that he's all of a sudden feeling that he never felt before and that's if that was part of the reason why you to go see dr injuries in the and the second doctor i mean it's just he was experiencing obviously a new kind of pain for himself and they're telling him what you don't need surgery but you got to have to manage the pain or like learn to pitch through it or something that you know what do you do i just think that will from what i've read and you know i have been down there for a week both from whatever i had from some stay back instead of take going fast coming back early and then you know going on the d l after that again so i guess is right now we're we're looking at like may for him at the beginning  e i mean he hasn't even thrown a bullpen he hasn't thrown off a mound since february february twenty eighth so the situation doesn't look good but as i said with even with pomerantz you know when you have certain issues you know i do like the fact that he went to dr injuries because usually when i mean doctor injures doesn't fool around if you know so right right it is the only way that he was associated with the picture it's usually bad it's usually bad news you know people they go to doctor injuries and then need surgery is really high so for him to come back and say ok we're fine and we don't need any you know shot or we just need medicine in rest that looks good however he couldn't really describe you there that would have been my first question out here is why you calling my elbow unique but from what he says like he heard like you can continue to pitch after your arrest for ten and seven to ten days like his brain shut off because he was so happy he didn't want to hear anything else but i just don't have a good feeling with this and you know with the amount of the things he's thrown in how situations have gone in the past where you know guys have come back to you know everything's look good from a team perspective he's going to go bad he's going to do is over rehab stint he's going to come back and then he comes back and then ultimately they find out he needs the surgery so there is no they didn't find it here what was what it really is is the strain of the muscle in the elbow not the tendon i guess necessarily so we'll see i just i don't know what to expect with him i mean i'm not a doctor so i can't really me i can't really you it i mean i can live with that my knee again just with limitations but i'm not you know counted on to pitch you know thirty five games in four hundred some i'm not made i'm not going to be running the marathon you know for any money but i just everything from growing up i mean a been a sports freak you know since i was sixty seven sox but that's what got me hooked and any time any time i've read the things that he's doing right now what's going on like said it always ends up bad eventually it goes bad there's two situations that i can point to the people did go they avoided actually three situations that i can point to that they voided tommy john surgery again rehab did and one was a partially torn owner collateral ligament and that was here to knock off from the yankees a couple of years ago everybody was saying he's going to tommy john surgery he avoided it he did the rehab and he pitched really good last year i mean he was in the top six or seven i think it is top seven for for last year along with the out of commission so he that was is i think it is his second year and it was just like a half season like you know like he had the you know the he rested for that half a season and then he came back and was fine the next year so that's worn instance so what about later that season i thought he came it and other person that avoided tommy john surgery that we have another possible injury concern with with the red sox but avoided tommy john surgery a couple years ago there was a good possibility is going to have it to do as part of the training program you have something it was a new training program yes it was not the way you train in the offseason so in the water bill i guess yeah it's a very complex shoulder program that they have and he's like the he got the accent this amount of you know things to do is like wow you know and so you know he so i guess i don't like everybody is kind of confused as i mean i guess from what farah was saying they do need to see if he's healthy but does  needs to work on his mechanics to and then but we also need to see if he's healthy so so but those are the three pitchers right there so i mean i don't know with with price i mean it's anybody's guess maybe he'll come back and have one of his best seasons and then pitch great in the playoffs this is good if it is an injury and he does need i mean i don't you know you want to see tommy john surgery or whatever whatever he needs if this is it for a significant amount of time this year if it really is an injury he's off for significant amount of time this it's like if you were i thought he could be a feature closer i will try i have been on the joe kelly bandwagon in terms of him being a reliever now since he was converted and i think this is a good thing but if you go back and you look at it a with price you know i pulled out some of the excerpts of this just because i you know you know i'm listening to this and it feels like prices all over the place here he talks about you know they ask him what would you feel is less pressured this coming year because they picked you know you picked up chris sale and you got priscilla coming out of sight and he goes why do you feel any pressure last year i wanted to pitch really well because i was coming to a new team but it wasn't because of the contract i don't know how much money i made last year i don't worry about that stuff it's gross all comes back why are people like you kids you won seventy games for most anyone on earth that's a good season and then listen to this juxtaposition of said it's from david price now i don't feel like i had a very good season i definitely did a lot of things well ok she didn't have a very good season but you did a lot of things well he literally in two sentences contradict subsets you know but he goes i made thirty five start there were done that had my career lead the entire baseball lead the league innings pitched which we just talked about and maybe that's leading to some of the injury issues he is now there's a lot of people that would do a lot to have that season but for me in this city that ain't nowhere near good enough i definitely understand that and i'll do everything i can to be better you know then later ron i mean then he's talking about you know he wanted to plug his charity you know you he kind of told gross felt like you know how come you know i had this charity i do project one for and you know how come no one's ever asked me about that and people just want to talk about you know you know my on field stuff and you know i'm you know i guess trying to basically say you know he's like a good price as it doesn't matter to these people in boston i've got to go out there nerd respect my pitching well period that's the only thing that's going to turn the page for me in boston i've got to go up there and dominate people don't care what i do off the field then he goes on he talks about you know you don't think if they care if you're good person or not he goes well they don't care if they care i would've went to all the crap that i went through last year if they cared period you know so one of the things i took out of this this interview is that david price you know what  probably is a wonderful person off the field i don't doubt that seriously any of that you know whatever you can you only know about these players what they are willing to tell you but i think the one tape here and you know what happened i think maybe to a lesser degree with carl crawford you know seen how this this market can kind of eat up some players and i think the guys who don't have thick skin let a lot of little things get bloom are you are don't handle that as well and i think one of the maybe the biggest problem for for price is i think he spends half the day on twitter when he's especially when he's not pitching and you know let's face it twitter is just you know it's the devils a place by the way our twitter handle is actually a western if you have some please check us out it's a wonderful place and you can use our  same outside of that the place i mean it is just an evil play area where all you do she face criticism i don't know i mean i think he takes too many things seriously here you know people comment about price and he you know it's just like to eat  know after his tough style dodger stadium i wrote something but i mean look at don't read it you know don't read your twitter notifications that's the thing you look at it this offseason win a playoff game and then come here and talk or something they're all over him but you know you can turn on my you can have a thing where you don't see your notifications but i think that's really the main thing with him every time like he gets offended somebody wrote on he posted something around halloween in somebody replied to him i'm going to dress as playoff star for halloween because in he actually quoted that tweet specifically of that person coming out and saying boston finn you know hatred from a boston fan that that's not that's not you know it's not on typical  is like he had a good offseason he got married he went on and tommy moon he has you know he's going to have a baby that has a son coming on the way they found that out and so he had a good all season you know personally in his personal life but he went on his honeymoon he's in a will be natural by the way you looked after at successful surgery he had to have a further braver place when you're making thirty million dollars a year you can get your dogs vertebrate at the one in the jetsons beautiful view from of this place in hawaii you can't lose a playoff team here that just shows you it's in his head and i and i wrote in him trouble that's asking for trouble because you know what if he doesn't want to hear from people like me see too much i know and he got one thing from evan draw like in the herald the same day that i wrote something that there was a like you know stop talking and stop performing but those are just articles you know just i mean those columns i don't see where it comes well you're thinking about it too much and that just get you that she get red sox fans scared that like if you're thinking about it that much then when you're i hope we do you want to be actually thinking about it when the stock comes next october you know because anything right thirty five thousand people in the state you know that's a you know you know thirty five stars this year even with his injury i mean he's obviously not going to but he can win twenty games and it all comes down to what he does in october for him that's all that matters and last year he you know i mean ultimately i would call it an unsuccessful season because you know he didn't step up in october and for whatever reason that is maybe it's because of the robber effort actually that's something interesting on that his column today like some ale manager heating quote be said that maybe it's the innings thing that totals up and that's why he hasn't pitched in the playoffs and i don't know i've heard different reasoning some people say it's it's more complex mechanics and stuff like you know i don't know but with him he's just it's just too much in his head and he just to thoughtful of a guy in a way like he thinks about things too much where is you look at josh beck and some of the really successful pitchers that have come through boston and like josh beckett was like i don't care at all what you guys think about me i don't care what fans think about me i don't care what the media things about me just going to go out with my game and if i'm if i don't win the game that i'm going to blast by self after the game i'm going to say that i stunk you know and that's just not price prices just to thoughtfully things about things too much he wants people like up that's the problem so people  somebody who knows price a little bit and i said to him after he sent out that tweet about his honeymoon i said your boy prices added again what why does he do this and he said to  it's i'm going to catch crap for that one hundred percent i could quote job three sixteen right now and i would get nothing but negativity period you can't please everybody last march giving internet bullies you have munition ammunition oh i don't worry about it i know i'm going to be great october at some point i work hard i want it bad i want it too bad it hasn't happened yet but i know what's going to happen again kind of all over the place they're sort of like this what don't they don't care i'm david price the pitcher not a person yeah i mean i don't believe in this i mean let's face it happened being successful in athletics is you know it's the mental aspect it's what you have up here not just the physical talent you know that's what's made tom brady so great i mean i know we're talking different sport but it's made him what he is for the last start yeah you don't care about the playoff record but you're they care about that stuff i mean you know he got a thirty billion dollars a year contract for seven years you know brought him here to be the number one starter because they didn't pour cela was going to be able to cut it so they brought in price yeah you look at it and you're like you got to perform that's the first and foremost thing i mean nobody's going to like a person they don't know that comes in a major thirty one million dollars and doesn't perform up to the standards i don't think i mean i mean you could show your personality along the way i mean we got to know david ortiz personally i mean made videos and posted them on twitter and he showed his personality along the way but didn't all tamil only area buddy come to respect david ortiz and like david or z in the beginning because you know he beat the yankees in the playoffs and he was a really good player i mean that's neutrally how things are originate and then you kind of get to know their personalities from there i mean we got to know  dominant player but we saw his personality out on the field and even saw me a little soft appreciating when the yankees well you know we got to win their first and you know he kind of brushed it off you know the yankees are by daddy and all that and you know i mean so it kind of fun with anything with anybody i mean even you know tom brady you i mean you know like you look at tom brady and you know i mean it's you know off the field a little bit you know everybody knows about his weird diet and everything but you know ultimately people like a because it's the best quarterback of all time and so i think that you know you've got to understand that as an athlete too you know does it really matter what the fans think about you at the end of the day i think you know it's important for your family your friends think about you and then if you want to make the fans like you than just go out and perform well and at the end of the day too if you're performing well they're going to kind of get to know you personally and they're going to like the subject here because i also want to tie it into something else but go chris you look at you want to say something so i want you to say you know i just think that you know really what he just ultimately needs to do even if he's not playing this year is just to kind of embrace boston and have fun with it  in understand maybe you know the if i was a player you know i grew up in boston and you know i went to fenway park my whole entire life so i can understand i if i was a player i would be like wow this is really cool and negative i usually just either retreat or all try to throw in something kind of i'm using your own or i'll liken it to i work in customer service and i always use and i use another word but people have phone guts you know by the way i think when it comes to most of the boston sports media they should have all notifications turned off i don't think any of these people should you know because of the rip jobs they get but anyway i want to talk about this really you have quickly this is the segue with the price i want to move on from him or off that  this guy chris sale he is everything that david price is not as far as personality goes for number one doesn't care what people think i mean if he has a twitter account where is art for sale picture let's get that up there and i want to i want to s playoff game so just like david price we don't know how he's going to perform in the postseason but everything this guy is said and done in the you know the bulldog attitude he has just give me the ball i want to go out there i'm already confident he's going to excel here i you know maybe he won't maybe something will go wrong but i just you know i don't see it whereas we have all these questions with with where prices head is that i have no question where sales head is at and i think it was a great pick up even for all the talent they had to trade away i mean what what what you're thinking christy you think part of his rationale there had been some talks in the week prior to and so you know you look at the rotation that he built in detroit he's always the light you know the stars that's that's what that's what  e stacked rotation and he's always been that kind of guy that there will to he would he values you know stars over star prospects in the and so ultimately i think he looked at it this way i don't think he  foresaw like well we need to take some pressure off price or we need to you know a price might have you know i don't think they first are an injury coming i don't i am the first sign anything of price physically so you know i just think ultimately it was just a way to make the rotation better and i think that they went into the offseason with this in mind but not exactly sure they could do  it they knew that they were going to have competition washington gave them competition for sale they had a good package going in and he almost went to washington right before i mean as dombroski said any time you can get a curse sale you do it  it's like nine days not even on twitter yeah and i mean he's but even even so i mean he's just like you know he just i mean you just talk to him and he's just like the type that you know he just really doesn't you know he  really cares about what he's doing in the competitiveness of what's going on on the field with him and he's really not focused on anything he was a call from a store in training about you know why do you care why you do not care about what's written about you off people will ask these questions about like ok it is impossible or wide of why a certain pitcher is not succeed in their first year in boston and i know that's a valid question because persaud in and then price has it but if you look at some of the you know the best pitchers of the red sox boston wasn't because he let it get to him or anything just because he was stubborn thought that you know he brought his nationally style restore and fast balls up in the zone and you know you got hammered for a bunch of home runs that year so  that there was a quote after the pitch that you can see again if you see at the strikeouts and you know is this they're like well you know a lot of times they don't want to you know throw the pitcher because they don't want to let them see what he's got these like what difference does it make a little see him it twenty thirty t mean it's really a positive thing if a sale can pitch well against the yankees you know because you know like they're the main competition in the air lease but you're going to face them a lot you know i mean you could face some five times in the in a season you know would still the