manner since this is a procedural matter and we have sufficient evidence to raise a cold war plain as to what is in this matter charles best interest and since it is this court's duty  or studio in the state of illinois to look out for minor children's day first the foster parents knew for consolidation of the action and their motion noted that i requested consolidation based on two pending and competing adoption petitions and the docket entry order of the circuit court said december first two thousand and nine orders striking the head sends response to the baker's petition and severing the cases those are internal tory not appealable orders at this time either disposed of or terminated the litigation or some part of it there was no final judgment has been actually in the baker's adoption proceeding that proceeding has been stated there's not been a determination on the merits of the adoption proceeding as to the best interest of the minor should this court determine it point five like to address with regard to your first would be their adoption petition and second may go to their expecting to answer the bakers adoption petition the first would be this child had to be available for adoption the juvenile court h parties to the baker's adoption proceedings they had no right to answer the baker's adoption just an adoption proceedings that entity or person having cutscene guardianship legal the legal wise is a party to in general just in this case due to the juvenile court's order and i'll remind the court the head since moved to intervene in that juvenile court proceeding after their rights were terminated they were not statutory parties and they were denied their right terms and they gave their concern for the foster parents so there's not that doesn't and things if that's what you asked asking it's my understanding that things move forward to a best interest hearing on the bakers adoption petition and those entities that are parties to that petition  with the court have the power to deny the adoption thereby leaving open the opportunity for someone else to petition for the adoption judge but i think at would generally be thought to be missing boy the best interest i would think so i would think so i don't know i don't know that the circuit court would be bound by the consent i think that gets it's my that's how it's worked here and they were given the authority to consult and they've consented to one set of people but this occurs when we're in a circumstance where the child has to be available for adoption and circumstance i apologize i don't know quite how to answer the question thank court his is careful to listen to the most careful to consider the case but that is not the case here we are reached vested interest in this particular case best interest has never been on the table evidence was proper to the circuit court in it  refused to consider the evidence and fused to consider the issue of best interest in this case so it has not been before the court and so in that sense that the court's decisions thus far are not best interests decisions and i  proceeding as an analogy in terminations parental rights proceedings the courts have decided that proust the unfitness must be addressed separately and second the best interests must be addressed so that would be an educated guess there's two petitions relating to the same minor child let's not first of all in fish and have to organise next door of each other working on the same issues and second let's not have the agency that has the authority to consent to the adoption and any birth parents whose rights have not been termed so the higgins were never a party in the baker proceeding and never could be a party in that they could proceeding competing petitioners are not proper party respondents and birth grandparents are not proper parties the ill my adoption act makes some threshold requirements the bench use the word threshold and i think that is the appropriate word standing is not merely a matter of able bodied persons of reputable character of a certain age that is not the case in adoption it would have the observed result where you  neighbors say thinking the little girl down the street was cute they would petition without her because they were of reasonable age and a good moral character and that is not the way the adoption act has several very important foundation under the statute and after parental rights were terminated or at the same time a guardian was appointed for the child so she has a guardian that is the department of children and family services she's not in need of a guardian she ha adoption becomes the preferred interest i think that there's lots of law in the state of illinois that says adoption is preferable to other less permanent and less stable have used the c f s adoption and when the department is present then they can there is that so the department could take it can say yes the department i think has to take but take it with the understanding that it could only i'm not an expert on probation inheritance but possibly for the short window of time she possibly could but the whole purpose of the adoption asked and the goals of meeting a child's permanency needs are to move towards adoption and often birth family grandparents aunts sisters brothers do step into the breach but to answer your question very forthrightly i think he said best just came the power and the authority to consent to the adoption and its own regulations consider appropriate birth family placements but it does gain the power to make that that judgment for it is a lot of power but children are you know given that it's given a lot of power for the best interests of our children we've asked you some questions if you'd like to some not human i would just say that i think that here we did have a consolidated proceeding if you want to make some couples minors point is as you in this charleston asserted to be it would then be possible for a parent to be a strange from his or her own parent to have a child have parental rights terminated and have that child placed for adoption without grandparents on either side of the child's life even being aware of the juvenile court proceedings because they're not necessary parties things going on and one is like i said mentioned earlier d c s does have its own rules and those do foster that they look within the data so that is not something that they're unaware of help are you saying at the end of the day that they