this is the time in the place for the me to the border of the city of holland we're here to respond applications for construction zoning variances and there are special exceptions housing in dangerous structures the board must try to interpret each application as it relates to city ordinances this part is not empowered to rezone or to take any action that could be considered rezoning variances must meet in order to be granted those of you who are here for a variance have already answered questions about the tests on your application we will begin asking you about those answers again tonight this is the procedure we file we ask that you come to the microphone to speak and state your case and address and we'll hear the applicant first and anyone supporting then a nyone in opposition to it typically will hold a public hearing on an application and then deliberate decide on the application before moving to the next application you're welcome to stay for the deliberations but there is no opportunity for further public comment if you like not to stay for deliberation and decision you can call the city clerk's office after eight thirty tomorrow morning to learn the results we hear that cations in the following order construction zoning housing dangerous structures that s please read the first up cation marken and simon owners of seven zero six wildwood drive are requesting permission to operate a daycare in their home a group daycare in their home the board is authorized to grant permission for a group daycare business when certain conditions are found to exist thank you is there an app here to speak on behalf of cation anyone have any questions from the board about the proposed daycare how many children a planning and i know it says between six and twelve but are you have a particular number in mind you're planning on going all the way up to twelve if you you do have a license right now i do not yet you do that cindy has it has there been a measurement that's been done of this property out of the square foot square footage thank you just i was there and did an inspection but if you would like her to go back and review by those measurements of the art she can do that ok but it's but as far as that the previous inspection that was done there was at least five thousand square feet of gross area and the site contained not less than one hundred feet of her child of usable out of door play area correct  do you think operating this truth care home would be would it change the character of the neighborhood you know it's a residential neighborhood do you think that you know would it would impact the neighborhood at all i really  don't i think that our neighborhood is primarily families and that they are that that letter and a few of them came and spoke to me about it and the only thing that would be impeding on them would be the majority of the traffic parents dropping and picking kids up but other than know what kind of traffic doing to spain and what times my hours my intended are to be six to six so depending on when parents bring their children probably normal time would be between sixteen and morning just for general drop offs and then normal pick ups are between five and five thirty thankfully and my goal would be to get three families two kids each really and then so really there's only three x your cars are time i was out earlier today to look at your property as you know i had a question about the size of the of the lot in the backyard where the children would be playing it seemed pretty small we're planning on using the pool the kids ages who you will be taking care of there are different a lot of different range of i'm it's going to be it's dependent on licensing i will have two of my own under three so i can add one more infant and then they'll be three and older  any of the questions from the board of ed like anyone ok thank you very much very much thank you is there anybody here to speak in support of the application is there anyone here to speak in opposition to that location if not them a close the public hearing for now and open up for deliberation amongst the board i'm prepared to make a motion i move we approve a motion by box support support by davis  findings of fact yes i find that the applicant did seek permission and filed the application and paid the fee as has been told to us by staff they've also provided  the sketch site plan sufficient in scale and detail to indicate all of the items that are listed the overall shape and size of the parcel floor plan of floors location of drives and parking areas location of all outside play areas location and heights of any walls fences or landscapers except for we also find that going to make it a condition that that they get the appropriate licensing through the state of michigan in order  order to continue and according to staff they have met the requirement of at least five thousand square feet of gross lot area and not less than one hundred feet per child of usable out of door play area according to the applicant and it is what appears from the plans that they provided as they do not have a joint or shared driveway also the it's currently my understanding this has it has currently been inspected in the past the inspection by the city i also find that it does not change the essential character of the surrounding residential area and it will not create a nuisance and factor in law relating to vehicular parking noise additional congestion or density in excess of residential uses of the property in the zoning district and i also find that it does not impair the health safety welfare or reasonable enjoyment of adjacent or nearby residential properties and i think the only condition is that they get the state licensing approval thank you well looking at the survey that was submitted it does me three firemen ok great i understand you do have a shared driveway and you did get approval from the consent from the neighboring property owners ok  and my understanding is it's not been inspected yet for for housing property maintenance code for the city but that's not been done yeah ok ok but you do plan on having that done as well yes  know the questions from the board thank you very much is there anybody else here to speak in support of that occasion is there anyone here to speak in opposition to the application and if not i'm going to close the public area and open it up for deliberation amongst the board i'm ready to make a motion motion by box i move we approve or support  t based on the application of that in the statements of the applicants and the information that we have received from staff applicant has filed the application and paid the fee they have provided us with materials regarding the sketch of the plan with the shape size of the parcel floor plan of floors location of drives location of outside play areas location heights of walls fences or landscape barriers including the location of gates and construction material  y would like to make two conditions on this one is really to the fact that they do comply with that one sixty six of the public acts of one thousand nine hundred three in regard to state licensing also that they that they are inspected and get approval from the city for compliance with the housing property maintenance code of the city i also find that there is at least five thousand square feet of gross lot area and not less than one hundred feet per child of usable out of  access drive to the property is a shared driveway but that appears we have received consent from the adjoining property owner form of the letter in the signature from the adjoining property owner and i find that the that the request not change the essential character of the surrounding residential area it shall not create a nuisance in fact or law relating to be here vehicular parking noise additional congestion or density in excess of residential uses of the property in the zoning district john savannah and rachel a new tie are requesting permission to expand the business at seven thirty five and seven thirty nine drive on a non conforming piece of property the property does not have direct from each on a public street the ordinance does not permit any new construction unless the lot on which the structure is to be erected fronts on a public street or has access there to by means of a deed access not less than twenty feet wide this existing business on the  that you like to make about the questions just basically that we are a minority on business in holland and have continued to be in the same location for over ten years and serve at least three hundred families on a weekly basis and  i know that it's simcoe energy that's going to be selling you the property right correct and that's currently the person who is providing you with the easement that you have right now because this is where it's going to sound really picky have you talked to some co energy about the fact that the easement covers this new piece of property that you're purchasing from simcoe energy we've been in conversation yes ok because one of the things that if we were to approve this would be a condition that that  revised to include this parcel as well and you'd be able to would you be able to get that from some co that's correct ok because one of that's that's one thing like i said and it's for a lot of people it sounds strange to say well there are selling the property to you why wouldn't they do that i have a letter of support from s support and they support the expanding their existing facility thank you or are you going to be expanding the facility to provide services to more students at a time to do more classes what's that the purpose we want to have better facilities within our existing structure so we want to have a bigger office space to be able to meet with families but then also offer an added training space to allow for within what we're doing currently just to allow more space in between the students currently our space is three thousand square feet and half of that is the training space that we would add just a little bit more training space to allow for the growth  ok so so we're talking about space for bigger students and more space between students but not necessarily more students or more students as well more students ok as well as a place to be able to have meetings with those students and and we have been financially responsible for our and thank you very much is there anybody here to speak in support of the application hi my name is brian vos we live it three six here and i'll drive and how my family and i have been a chance for about four years i have two kids and my wife and i both attend one of the great things about the potential expansion that they're thinking about is that you know our kids and that my kids and we're all in the black belt group and one of the things that would be great is to have an expansion of we can be in the same class because they're making the same techniques but the kids can go in one area and the go on another so there's a there's a nice part of the the piece of this the family aspect that that this brings in could bring so that can bring the extension of one individual who might be a different level at the same time as you might have another individual from that family or so from a total expansion of how many people are in the parking lot things like that i think you're see a bit of a growth first within who in the family could attend because now you know if you go to two or three different times because there might be options for that plus we also think that you know as we as we look at some of the people in the in the kids that are my kids now and they've been interacting with for many years it'll be nice to have smaller spaces for them to do different things and kind of break apart and do almost like a individualized component while you're having a larger class so what you're saying sorry if i haven't been great thanks or other what you're saying is it's possible that you and your your children could attend a class together in the future where you're not able to do that now so that could potentially reduce the the number of cars that are going to get out of that that's one of the things that we felt you know that would be a great opportunity especially with t o train centers components in one he said only and it would provide the provide chance the ability to provide classes that they were not able to provide before with that space correct because you could do basically double the number of class you could do the same time ok great is there anybody else to speak classes get really compact so the kids are really close together so it's almost impeding on their training they can't do their full kit to their full form without that additional space thank you y i just like to give a vote of confidence to produce yourself please i'm sorry your name and your name and address for the record super thirty west twenty second street  rachel is my daughter and john is my son in law and i would just like to give a vote of confidence for chan's martial arts and the good it does for the community and what it has established as a family very family friendly operation and what they do it's not just a form of martial arts it's giving confidence and focus to a lot of kids that didn't have that before speaking with their teachers and with their family they is there anybody here to speak in opposition to the application and if not i'm going to close the public hearing open up deliberation i'm once again ready to make a motion move we approve we have a motion for approval us support we have support by davis findings of fact please yes i do find that the requested variance is due to the unique circumstances or conditions of the property it does have a unique shape it's got  the surrounding it with reveals makes it difficult to expand in any other direction and i don't do not believe that it is due to their personal or economic difficulty i also do not believe the need for the variance is self created it's my understanding th property in these buildings have been in existence even prior to the time that this property was annexed into the city so i don't believe it was a result of the actions of the applicant or previous property owner i also do believe that strict compliance with regulations governing the area set back frontage height bulk density or other dimensional requirements would unreasonably prevent them from using their property for a permitted purpose or strict compliance or a big for many of those regulations unnecessarily burdensome  the statements of the applicant as well as those in support of the application so that the the property is unreasonably small even for the use that they are providing right now they're having trouble even kicking the full amount that they need to for these types of classes i think th they definitely need a larger space for what it is that they're doing at the moment i also believe that the the request is the minimum relief necessary to do substantial justice to both the applicant and to proper the owners in the district it's a relatively small expansion i don't believe that they could they could accomplish what they can accomplish with anything smaller than what they're asking for and i do not believe that will cause an adverse impact on the surrounding property property values with the use of a joining of the property in the neighborhood or the zoning district