one i guess right and that's right i was there and it was a wonderful event it was a it was a it was a lot of fun it was well attended and it was great to see you at your concerts i mean i've been to many of the been they've they've all been very very very read that and to play with these musicians they were incredible musicians really cause i didn't make a living out of because most of them were bob burns whatever the were also instrumentals but plays very well and i learned a lot by being in that environment and i kept mine through z as i'm growing so i kept doing it you know and one thing leads and so that's what my life was i kept going from one orchestra to the other and playing different kinds of music i joined a group we played a lot of just polka music you know so that was macho to time it's one two one two so you're lying that you look at your music and one blends in with the other and that's all you do guys says yeah it so happens one of all trumpet players is being drafted and there's an opening so i auditioned for that and i got it and i joined the band and still is all for it the arabs theater and from very lucky that every move i made and change i made was a good progressive change and i joined the bob just orchestra i worked with sense for a few years then i left him i not a you know well how that happens is like i mentioned we do four shows a day so you've only got maybe an hour between shows on now not half so you can't go much anywhere because you've got to be back in the theater but larry was the moment spent more time with playing poker they were funny they're just great guys working for a living that was their job and in my opinion watching them in person you don't get the the thrill watching them like you do when they're in a movie because in person you can't get the sound effects that you do when you do a new movie because while you're doing t they need a certain sounds for he had to be ready coordinated with the conductor and the film so that was good experience that's not a kick but the three stooges great guys and now we've got a couple of pictures here singers there were members of the union the coming into a different jurisdiction and then when they would come to boston there would have to mail us a contract so i go through the contracts all of the songs hey wait a minute let me read this secretary which are god i wrote a letter to her i would like to invite him and tristan on the honorary membership to the boss of musicians local and lo and behold he accepted which was unbelievable because he you know didn't do much of that he was such a busy guy you know and so the little card i presented to him and kind of with an apology because i was so they're the ones that put the building in my hand you know and the nuns and the priests were very encouraging as i was there to stay with music and so science to them that helped me to keep  measure that i thought was a steady job it was seven nights away and during the day i didn't get to meet anyone you know the young guys socially so i was busy with then i started my own it and became a huge success an individual style along and he turned out to be to be a beautiful guy i met him a few times than he is very  lot of clubs i wait sons of italy and stuff like that so i did a lot of that word and you have to be very adaptable to them you know what style not what nationality they are on newbury street and somewhat of a he bought a hotel and converted it into a college then he bought another hotel for the dormitory and he just for one haven't seen it yet because i haven't been able conservatory now yes they are blending with one another another good thing is there's something not going on between berkeley and hans a college i don't really know i just read it recently in the outstanding worldwide known actually teaches at berkeley charter berkeley and i think he's on the retelling right now but he still does you know enough to keep busy and outstanding great teacher what you know you've got a number of questions here that we're talking about but what's been the biggest influence in your life do you think well you know and this is really kind of difficult but  road you know but that's a luxury you know you got to take things of as a come but my attitude was always been very i try to keep a jury positive and you got the real estate business through all of this is sang to my mother thanks to said what is it what are you talking about you know she said well the only way you're going to get this is you got to buy a new apartment buildings because when you make money you make it while you sleep and i says yeah but she didn't tell me that the experience for me to talk with people one on one you know resident just once that he thing so that they gave me another great experience and i got into real estate i really enjoyed it really die i learned how to work with financially from great teaches by that i mean a friend of mine had an awesome phone newbury street this was before condominiums became friendly and they would guide me a little bit about you know how to handle things and the big secret that he taught me was how to handle with the no finances you know how to work with the banks and with the owners of the property and so forth there was a great experience so i put it to work and so i became a workaholic during the day i had my real estate which i worked out and during well it's been a great talk with you i really appreciate it's been a lot of fun i joined her and you know it's great to hear these stories and i'm sure our viewing audience will appreciate hearing that was our own song thank you thank you very much and that's