company so you have a guaranteed cash value component and you have a dividend component and it's based on the on the strength of the company your life has never missed a day of them in payment in their hundred sixty seven years in the last two paperwork there's no explaining that needs to be done and will will put as much help as it's needed to do it efficiently there's a timeframe of when it needs to be in roll if it was approved this while on the planning commission and i get all the e mails here only e mail i've received it was odd that there was an agenda which is perfectly legal from the state of vermont and that was also attachment germans he's also chairman the planning commission is referring to the planning commission we don't know among the conservation committee and we are not working on the natural resource they send it around for discussion the discussion doesn't take place by email lesa only open meetings law there should not be discussion but you can certainly till june to go draft something incented around that in used to be clear we as a board and all the other boards we have we want them and requests that they adhere to open meeting laws so they cannot be discussing me i can't do that these guys can't do that none of those groups can do that so if that discussions going on that's not right i'm not aware of anything like that but again drafts and that sort of thing being sent around are ok to answer your question  a friendly member of yes really not thrilled by the doglegs at the brick house and moving the sidewalk up against moving traffic the traffic moves fast and it's big the sidewalk creepy wider so you don't duck houses how what if if you follow the line of the prison concrete sidewalk there how wide would the green space between the sidewalk and the kurds be three or four feet nobody likes it's inconvenient to forces anything bigger than a car into opposing traffic in the same is true of the forced hard turn that was built in front  is a traffic issue or we should look at it as a traffic issue to make sure that it does cause an issue because if it doesn't cause an issue it could be a great traffic calming measure so maybe we can amend it in a way that these few changes that we're talking about as in  further study further study more data i think i fight understand points but they're like all of our points of relatively uninformed versus an engineer or someone who's done studies on traffic or this size of the turns radius so how do we amend it in a way in which it's you know those things are taken into consideration he had they're not definitely changed at this time well the kind point that maybe a pinch point we need to see if that's a pension plan not i'm not willing to say that that so it will not known we sidney are scratching their heads next time it comes up about what he said so we hear here and will continue to make sure that their concerns are you don't listen to all the way through the process i think you guys just came in at four twenty eight to the left and three nineteen to the to the right forty mile an hour road deficient by the standards for twenty one three nineteen and in my may this is before the shirk been up there today is that you've got seventy seven rock under hill station uphill we've got a driveway and they've been less like a distance there was uphill and you have seventy one roger hill station right next door going be for the great and i've got a number of questions on that but let's just talk about bridge the bridge is level it hits the far bank leading up to the field well below the existing roadway up there other which used to get around by every switch back to go down there crown is your take on and you were there unfortunate looks like some of the other ones where you can imagine that it can be done right but we don't have a flows down toward the bridge or two huge rocks there that look as though they've been there since the glacier left and that provides a constriction acceleration increases depth of water the kinds of ways we've been hit but then it also looks if i'm reading the orange paint on the ground and so on it looks as though these big massive rocks are going to go in an area that the screen has sculler yes which will constrict the stream limits and that kind of thing and you are asking for an accessory growing i don't have my ruler with me but it's some distance from the proposed primary goal i suppose i'm reading here from our zoning regulation permit application that part if we're speaking driveways here you mean because of the shape of the driveway going in there because it's really to drive you know if this is six hundred year you're talking good with that we could make it an amendment to just go to one drilling but then we get down to the say distance the three nineteen vs the four hundred range and then that we would with that be some sort of weaver or something like that and i don't know i haven't and so we get down to long we get down to say something and jumps to my head for say distances in the board approving a waiver on something that's a safety related issue so counsel to make sure that giving a waiver to something like that doesn't put us in a liable situation when you come out of your driveway and have an accident and then say the guys that approved three hundred twenty foot our intentions you always get these things done you guys buy land you have going to want to build homes you want do these things is not our job to sit here and deny things of course but we've got to follow the rules of the town and that's what we're doing here tonight and i know that's hard but strange but you want to work in a stream and dates and all those things so i don't have anything new weather that i give you an update that mike was out myself and they drove the pedros got some good information from mike we are trying to schedule a half day to the worst of the gravel roads  thoughts on the i going to bid on an air exchange system and town garage as we've all remember we were thinking about working on the roof making a cold roof and doing  change the entire bit came in at two hundred sixty thousand dollars and he had about one hundred sixty thousand dollars set aside for that so the project became an affordable we then as a group decided to maybe go after the air exchange area pretty straightforward they they made a plan and they made a good process for us  here the engineer looked at the site and found you know there are some exposed bedrock there on the turn that we're all familiar with that's you know causing some flooding into the residential neighborhood affecting i would say twelve to fifteen homes it looks like of the use of rip rap material as that is the major expense of it but after his study he found that  it would cost about seventeen thousand dollars in order to rip rap and are you know kind of armor armor that bank on the opposite side of poker h twelve to fifteen homeowners here in this area affected area and as we've mentioned to them we were hoping that they would absorb the cost of this repair and we would help them with this engineering portion but if that time we why do we feel that this isn't private property inside a good use of tax dollars to help safeguard the town residence the same argument using cloverdale you know what's the or private property to solve a private issue that caused by us there's also the question of if we build this port for sevent as a slim person of white or and who i'm supposed to look out fly and say really i am the most conflicted person you've ever seen because i know people there i've been there during the floods i've seen the basements i've seen the dry and  what i'm supposed to look at when it comes to the whole town not to the twelve to fifteen homes and i tend to focus in on the twelve to fifteen homes because that's because i feel bad for those people i want to help them and i think seventeen thousand dollars for the town budget yeah we but what what cliff points out and it is wise to point out is it is private property it is it is not a town caused problem it's a problem but our town caused problems so it's not our viability and for us to do this i agree with him he brought up a few already that then we have to go do it here and here and here and here because there's all these kind of situations like this around town small i think mostly the smaller than this one but nonetheless they are in those situations so it's i completely feel what you guys are coming from and i and i and seventeen thousand dollars to the twelve to fifteen homeowners down there it's a lot of  we will landfill closure it looks like it is being suggested based on this information is recommended the landfill tried getting a monitor wells continue to be sampled on a water and the town garage mining wells no longer be sampled so we do have a few are monitoring wells on the property and we will continue to test the town garage drinking water but sounds like we should carry on  parts i didn't know put that in some numbers for the ministry of trying to who are allowed to retain a professional to help with the ministry my commission's opinion on the slick court's opinion they would weigh more heavily on each soul of those opinions as to what we should acquire here's my concern my various concerns on this one it puts nation difficult position to this is a question of what regulations apply and i think that's probably beyond the road for me to be an expert witness as to what's required in the third book the planning commission and trying to be sure they're doing the culvert right and everything from their lead up to the house is someone else's responsibility but the question of what standard it was it's a question of law we're getting two different things going on  being put in so we have somewhat of an issue there with me but then we also have the issue of video to be basically as you're pointing out not listening to the ruling body which is  permission if you are comfortable since you found this information is good information if you could write a letter to those two separate parties with those concerns and then bring them to the next meeting and much review those on the side of the group does it make any sense  stick to to stick to the road right of way and let's be clear in your letter to the r v that we are the ruling body here when it comes to something like that so that would be great things tools for us to follow on with all of our signatures from all to be kept short are we going to put in recommendations as a group or separately or not at all probably do it separately i mean it's a lot but a different political bent so just go ahead and proceed on one's own that sounds good sure ok of the dry season we came up with a number four but i'm going to humbly request for this fiscal year two hundred fifty dollars for town health officer suppliers and next we go into our budget cycle over this program that was on its way out of business that they do good things with with fire ponson greitens well another program was going to volunteer to take that on until september thirtieth and then after that it will start the process of tax and legal property we have six properties that when all the tax sale i arrange contracts on three properties and one property is only twenty dollars so contract i have a copy personally i don't have a concrete part of this contract of course was to say through all the peels and all that other stuff not pan has said that in the future they want to keep him on and have him do like on new construction appraising and all that but i think that the board should get a new contract for to cover that type of item each time you what i mean i would say you know just like this but instead of saying you're going to do this you know this reappraisal of them are over there is a number of years reset your did this is what you will do for us and this will be your daily or hourly rate whatever and raid and this is the maximum it's going to be and if it gets closer that come back you know and instead of necessary i suppose it could be a term wanted for a year but still if they hit it in rate i wanted to also mention that i would i think it would be a good idea to have a contract like that for mike wise or because he's a couple of reasons it's far more active than he was a year or two ago he's doing he's like at his fingers in everything and then also  with the highway work he's doing on the c h p he's doing that as a volunteer and we have insurance coverage that covers volunteers if they get her medical and yeah but he's got a hold harmless as an independent contractor we're not going to cover maybe gets hurt so if i did talk to the l c t because i haven't had anybody that's going to put like that the real challenge here the tractor and the underwriter said you know really if you just get something written up with the trucks and i did talk to the purchasing agent steve smith at this day and he said they're not sure if they're going to they're not going to have a new purpose a contract with cars they're not sure and they may try to extend the one that you can still know at the town meeting that you can buy a truck that he could buy a truck so again it's part of like maybe what you were saying before you used to know the specific we put that on the agenda to revisit wildlife jennifer because i'll look into my my my understanding is that we don't have anything to do with wildlife but i'll make sure that it will live up to revisit and care that members and if that would also work out well with the bid process thing yes ok wednesday ten one we could do in eight am meeting that made sense to anybody  so it's nice we could just sleep over actually i'm sorry yes i don't know that one day's going to help the bid to close to one of they were curious if you wanted to have someone come to a meeting to talk about their neighbors rights program their volunteer drivers or to try to pair up with people who need to drive and what would we do for that