result of the scheme being that those who were delinquent in their taxes paid artificially inflated penalties interest revealed their properties as a taxpayer by the financial and other benefits to mr b up in the form of political the people that it's the latest in this case the people of the state of illinois that he's ultimately the longstanding and supreme court precedent of this state supports that individual such as the leaders in this case either themselves but it does not specifically name publishes like our plaintiffs in this case the case can be brought on the relation or to the use of the party injured by the breech of the binder anyone interested in it's an inforce that even with this express a provision is omitted from the individuals still bringing the case x road for the benefit of the people of the state of illinois i mean ultimately in god just as in here it's the you know it's there and there's an individual in that case it was a corporation was it was injured as a result of the plaintiff is a is the governor this is a elected official and it may just be based questions in my mind whether or not they've brought up your interpretation should be somewhat limited by this so the conditions of the bonds are the same their liability necessarily the same and they're all held liable to for the same nonfeasance of du any person who's injured by an official act as protected by such officers as a mission in the case of power versus united states which was a bond of the clerk of the united states or said were of the  have this court believe that somehow this is a judgment on that there's something about it that requires the plaintiffs to go in to go get a judgment first against madison county in order to prevail that doesn't make much sense here to us because first of all it's r who's the name principal it's not madison county so the bond was intended to secure that it will perform and so fred back on not that it will performance of madison county furthermore there's nothing in the statutes there's nothing in the bond form itself that describe any duty upon one plaintiff here bringing the claim the injured party to do something going to get a judgment first before being able to secure it before being able to make a bond we contend that the city of  and how was getting a judgment first pins madison county going to help anybody and we contend that it's it's not mean they've actually probably more than anything being been obstruction area in this case you know defending arguing dance class certification is of trying to hands which is in a sense maybe even rewarding the wrong doers when perhaps the state's attorney and others turned a blind eye to it after i was actually doing all that being said madison county has yet to make such and it said it will be observed that the above statute does not express the provide the bond of the for the benefit of third persons but went on to say that the weight of authority and the better reasoning is to the contrary one of the conditions of the  that the principal just as in the case of app on that he people faithfully perform the duties and joint him it's difficult to understand his benefit condition was made for if not birth those that he and mike walkley har public interest but redress wrong to individuals the better reasoning in the cairo case the first of those cases where the wrongdoing of the officials is not directly or negatively impact the government obviously financially the government madison county madison county has not been harmed financially and so has no incentive to go and do anything that's why the people here who have been harmed are trying to take action on th members of this class the very purpose there for a public official bonds is more than just protect name biology in this case man's accordingly to the extent that a public officials acts are in breach also important that the people who have had a relationship here with bad you know it's the plaintiffs in this case who have suffered a loss financial losses result of their properties their taxes being sold these tax batons color of office and this is port said in doubt one virtually engages with the people when he assumes is duties hypothetical because it wasn't dealing with the public officials bond at all it was dealing with something else it was dealing with a three d policy of dishonesty disappearance and destruction policy and that's part of what we contend why the court made perhaps the wrong clear that the policy this insurance policy was actually just an idea governor thompson to ensure losses resulting from the you know the dishonesty of certain state employees it's an insurance policy it speaks of insurance exclusions policy lets her further questions like it or not it's our ally is back on surety and the plaintiffs in this case and the class members they represent have been damaged by fred back linctus may not individual more injured person if you look at the collector statute it also which is one of the section which is about here the collector statute in section twenty dash one five five it provides was arguing here so the legislature knows how to lose language and this is true of other states as well and they have to your question just ties i think it is a or as to how these because they found the injury would be to individualize and they also found that it many cases will be no injury because the penalty rate would be eighteen percent the highest in most of these propert and when they said the purpose of this was to protect a bomb the other thing that's important about that case if the court should be aware of it is madison county was dismissed as a defendant because the to deal with that so you know in the event that we get down the road and there needs to be ten thousand many trials and in this case even though we have class or vacation for the purposes of liability batman is still liable here and so his his surety again as i said opening comments is so extensively liable as well they bowed down themselves to the people of the state of illinois not just baton but both of them and so in the event that we have