seven thirty we have a continued public hearing for wax o'connor's liquor violation at eight thirty we have a request for a public hearing request to transfer an alcohol license from within gillette stadium thank you good citizens input if anyone has something that they want to add just so just you know the drill if you could just say a name people at home first mitchell nine spruce street  read in the paper last week the stuff at the stadium the casino came back up my concern is over a year ago my wife came and mentioned that plane ridges putting in a recent replying to he's already started building a twenty million dollar parking garage she already has applied to sent nonrefundable four hundred thousand dollars check to the state have we started to look into the applicant is most likely going to do their thing one is going to play it up one's going to play it down but i was going to suggest to the board first before we start getting into that i requested this state gaming commission to come to our board meeting in february and give us an overview of what it means to be in the category of an abiding community and what steps that we can take so when things come together we're better prepared and then go in a direction of hiring a consultant so we're not just saying it's schools it's money it's traffic right there's a profession that looks at it so we'll have plain bills take on it we'll have the the applicant the proponents take on it and then we'll have our take on it and hopefully we were within step with the schedule so have a little citation we want to earning an olympic gold medal at the two thousand and twelve special olympics massachusetts summer games as a member of the weightlifting team known as the petit power lifters stephen and his teammates began their training in march at the fox a under the leadership of their coach to reset petty after months of training and much support from his family and friends steven was able to compete in three events in the heavyweight division the deadlift squats and bench press stephen also competed in the squats event with one hundred sixty five pounds and deadlifting two hundred twenty five pounds the board of selectmen and the residents of the town of foxborough greatly appreciate steven's efforts to train and prepare for participation in massachusetts special and big summer games and we would like to offer our sincerest congratulations on a job well done given this eighth day of january two thousand and thirteen foxboro board of selectmen gradua updated think this is the first meeting that we've had since since before the holidays i want to say happy new year to everybody hopefully two thousand and thirteen is going to be a good year two more or less stressful than the two thousand  twelve couple weeks ago we had asked through the media and through our meetings to think about a saturday meeting date rather than a regular during the week date for a special town meeting and i think what we decided at that time was we were going to let it run for a while see what input we get back you know at the end move forward to a town meeting ballot vote to see if we form a committee so i don't want to let the keep going on to put that on the agenda next week then next week with you know a meeting next tuesday and decide if if we want to move that forward to town meeting or not and check that off you the yes or no we've got the asset review committee coming in front of us on the twenty second that's the committee that is looking at what town assets we have if we want to keep them or sell  recognize them or what have you but we're going to get an update from that and i think lorraine is going to present that reminding everyone that we have a special time meeting for march now it's just after the one we just had to before may so it's going to be tight agendas are going to be probably a little more packed i don't often have to be meeting every week but just let's just try to be efficient if we can address something at a meeting rather than extended to the next meeting i think it's going to be a tough for us and he had calm over the next couple months  strong time manager act this is something that we've been kicking around for quite some time now now kevin and this nothing to do with kevin performance but he's got a date coming up that we have to look at his contract one year in advance so i think to do the town justice we just need to get this done we need to look at the strong town manager and address the strong tie managers act in address if it's working for us or if it's not and again not kevin working for us or not but the way that was set up department and they're going for an accreditation in accreditation that addresses the performance and paperwork in everything that the police department does and it's a big step foxborough obviously they don't have their accredited their certification i think fifteen percent of the towns in massachusetts fifty something out of three hundred fifty something have them so over the next few months are going to be working hard and that's something that i was proud to see their mission statement all the way to what they're hoping to get over this next couple months so  you see a police officer say congratulations and hopefully they make it because it's going to bring level of a fox more up to a higher level so good job to them dave did you want to add anything to that well it might have been a long time ago because when the police station was downstairs here we were pretty much told you can forget about ever netting you know just for that but   i actually have some things to to give all of you one thing is the friends of the foxboro seniors who are volunteers yet these calendars so i had some left over and i thought who volunteers more than all those lessons are you going to hear something complimentary as they are friends of fox for seniors ok i wanted to talk to you about a couple of grants that i've gotten this year in the time that i've worked at the senior center i've over the last almost twelve years i mean certainly have gotten grants but to kevin's credit he thought it would be good to tell you all about the grants that we have and what we're doing with the first grant i want to tell you about is a grant that's called the mass alpha grant mass alpha stands for a state's assisted living facility association it was a competitive grant and mass alpha said that they would take ten thousand dollars other towns that had a combined council and aging in human services and now there are dozens of of towns that combine those services so with that in mind i wrote the grant proposal to provide workshops for frontline workers me human service workers need to keep informed in order to better serve their clients there is a misconception that massachusetts offers robust social service programs that are easily accessible and really what happens with the state and federal programs is when there are tight budgets the criteria for programs are changed eligibility requirements or they eliminate programs or they create waiting lists but those people still live in our communities and elders in the communities that we all live in and i thought education would be a perfect way to start so i got i had six educational programs two with them about current things that we're all seeing as issues that hadn't been issues before one of them was one set was by jim thrasher the former selectman he did two workshops that were legal workshops about bankruptcy and foreclosure because those areas we're seeing a lot more problem with we also had programs to help workers mind the internet for resources and information and for help with helping older people get back into the workforce a lot of people are who are tired of forced to go back to work because of the feeling economy and failed investments we i had a social worker that had a couple of programs one was is it dementia or depression because people living in the community that are seniors if they start having problems you really want to figure out is if what the underlying problem is and she also did a program that was called professional and personal boundaries for elder care workers the people who attended along with the foxboro staff were council on aging workers from nine surrounding towns has held a service workers adult day health workers visiting nurse staff and the the last one the professional and personal boundaries was so popular that it was requested to be repeated at the community resource meeting that we have quarterly with the social worker norene is the one who started these meetings and we meet quarterly with others with other town departments as well as other community resource people so the people who heard that one were food pantry people the police the boy health veterans agent crisis counselors from riverside and high school guidance people but the thing that i really i'm excited about along with that that was great but we also created a resource guide so i have copies for everybody when i have there was an article that had been in the paper about the grant so i just put that because it kind of tells a little bit but this is the resource guide that we created and we distribute it to we distributed it to about thirteen towns and because there's a some information in here that's time sensitive i also gave people in e mailed a copy of the resource guide to people so they could change things like you know what is three hundred percent of the poverty level you know those kinds of charts that change year to year so it's  so my goal with this is to buy better educating a handful of workers we can really help a multitude of clients in the community to get their needs met we don't provide the actual service that helps them we just direct people to where to get those services because everything is very it's not an easily accessible system you have to kind of know your way around and figure out the different resources to say you have questions about that because with what's the breakdown between the council of aging and human services fifty fifty thirty counsel at a human services is really for everyone of all ages about seventy three percent i think of our clients are over sixty the other twenty seven percent or less and are under sixty however if you think about people who are older they need more support they're not as internet savvy you know  we need to support people more that are older so even though it's seventy three percent of the people they take up about eighty seven percent of our time where the younger people they can come in we can help them they can leave they generally don't need i mean they need we always follow up with people but they don't need repeated interventions with the with the social worker the other grant that i that i got it's called a service incentive grant it's a so it's a grant from the executive office it's also a competitive grant so basically when this great opportunity came about i just looked at my after action report that kevin had us all do after tropical storm irene and i looked at the lessons learned in my to do list and from that that's how i built the plan so basically what i did is took two thousand dollars so it's not a lot of money hired a  actually created the name she said she's the only one in the state when she googled it but it's the emergency management outreach worker and she did a concentrated effort to try to reach people with critical needs in the community that really needed to be identified and prioritised is being the first people that we would try to reach out to in the event of a town wide emergency so she called and wrote letters and visited area hospices oxygen companies  agencies home health agencies adult day health programs she went to hesco well the services the department of develop developmental services and told the workers there about this program so that they could talk to their clients in their in the client's families about what foxborough was offering and to let them know if they wanted to participate in it that they could let us know because we considered those people to be you know the frailest people with the most critical needs and we also rip promoted the program and the fox for reporter because you know they are so good to us giving us the senior pages so once the calls came in th pat the outreach worker to did the intake she'd make home visits with people i actually have copies of the n t still it's the intake form that just explains why the person needs is that's a good point so then what are other job was is pat and our outreach worker worked with the public safety people so that we could dovetail  database systems so that we could make a spreadsheet our you know forms that had all of the client information that we could they could be transferred over to the public safety database you know we don't have a generator so we can't have access to that information but they can have it so the other piece of the grant that i wrote that i had written for this was that we needed to also have better communication with the public i know it the hurricane irene storm that there were people who said oh i didn't know there was a shelter i didn't know i didn't know what was going on so we decided that it would be good to have some community conversations where we told people what they could do to help had three different programs and they were all the same program but three different times we had went to public safety we had one at the high school and we had one at the senior center foxborough cable access was good about it they filmed it for us and pauline was able to distribute her emergency management handbooks that i think she showed to all of you at those meetings so that all of that happened prior to the last storm we had so that was really good and foxboro cable also was excellent about running that program over and over and over before the storm happened so that people would know that there's a plan and how what would how things would on roll we had we have magnets that  have the tele the am radio station that people can listen to if they lose power to kind of know what's going on to sell that worked out great but the very last time we had there worth when we lost power i mean i don't we we did find that there was some glitches in it there were people who we had registered and because the people are so frail they were they were chained we were trying to track down people that weren't at their in their homes so that's where that little magnet comes from developed our own internal system paths we've exhausted those funds but i'm so pat is gone but our human service staff we've developed a system where we will contact people will send them the magnets we'll try to keep them as in keeping us as informed as they can and as we can so that we're not wasting time trying to track down people who were not there so i thought that was this grant is a really good way to show how well a little bit of money could go a long way to build a foundation for a program that's really critical to people in town seniors or people with other  disabilities or not that seniors have disabilities but you know i mean people anyone that's got any frailty in the community regardless of their age and so i just think that you know it's worked out well and i think we're getting better is storms happen you know we you through you know those meetings that we had remember that you get there early in the morning and you try to call people's houses and yeah looking for numbers and i think by the time that we got to the last storm it was not automated but a little more calm and though the process else just knowing there's a process and knowing what you're going to do when just doing the plan is just so much better yet and we thought we had it down but having really lived through it it just gives it's a different experience i'm very appreciat that we have the choice and we can briefly discuss waxes and open it or i wanted to take the electric common side out of order and bring it first so when we open the waxes and then if it goes into a long discussion will hold it and then bring the the side forward and then go back so it just about seven thirty when i read into the public record the hearing notice notice is here by given that the board of selectmen will conduct a public hearing on tuesday nov twentieth two thousand and twelve at seven p m in the town hall meeting room forty south street foxboro massachusetts pursuant to its licensing authority in accordance with massachusetts general laws annotated chapter one thirty eight sections twenty three sixty four and sixty seven and all amendments there to the purpose of the hearing will be to review and discuss information concerning alleged violations of chapter one thirty eight  chairman in a number of the board are normal special counsel for liquor matters is conflicted out on this because he represents another establishment on the location so we've been searching for  little licensing specialist and haven't found one yet there is also the possibility that there may be an opportunity to create some settlement they're going to be offering something and we'll take a look at that and if there's merit to it we'll pass it along to the board but in any event as far as tonight goes we don't have counsel so we should not proceed so it should be tabled to be able to continue to continue to maintain and so refresh my memory to continue or do we need consensus in writing a verbal or do we just do that ourselves no you can do that yourselves but it must be continued to date and time certain so we can we are meeting on the fifteenth i would not recommend you drive that night that agend in favor which in kerry's five zero s will see them on the twenty second organizations in town would hang signs around the fence and they would advertise where they are going to raise or what it what it ever it might be at that point were successful was far as having a lot of money in our budget so we decided that what we would like to do is we would like to put signs up on the common that are permanent if you will i know if people have seen these yeah there were others like that but anyways you know we put up the bricks that are on there in the cent part what letters to be changed and at the time we met with the slack men doesn't sit in was made that the fox reliance club would maintain it and we would handle a expenses to do with that as far as maintaining at that time and the selectmen would control what went on that bulletin board at that time and i think that still is the practice that's going on now well seventeen eighteen years later the signs are getting kind of tired because of the fact that the metal on them that isn't paint that's are starting to fade and chip and so on so forth so repaired to repair these signs and i had a few people come up and look at them with me you can't just strip them here because you've got to get him down to bare metal and then you've got to paint them right away you only really way to do it is by taking the signs off take them somewhere have been repaired and then bring them back and it's a quite inexpensive and so i was working at roger on it and far as you know recommendations of what we could do to see what we could do one place or or whatever so at that point came up with the idea roger did the pop out if we went to the electronic size because even if you look at the center of the signs they're starting a bar call and if they're starting to get old to be honest with you the repair like i said earlier is quite expensive phonic to do it so at that point i say roger i'd be glad to research it out as far as electronic signs i went out and i got five different quotes which roger and i reviewed and then we had two of the companies come in we selected t companies recently selected these two companies are because of the fact that their signs are made a united states one hundred percent united states and they have modems inside so which means that from a remote site for example right here you can change the information that's on the sign where they're so far apart you normally speaking you have what they call a master of slaves a lot of messages the same on both sides of the sign well on these with the modems we could have two different messages on it because sometimes from what i understand they have more messages than the six that are available on the particular side because there's three on each one so that gave us an advantage there the other advantage to two companies that we worked with besides having a modem and sighed all the signs you know a lot of the signs you look at they're very bright and some of them to be honest we are too bright but these have their ability to be adjusted so if the intensity is too much on them we can if you will tone down to a certain degree so that was another advantage to to look at the science the other advantage to they're all in modular maybe a foot by foot on square so if somebody only d start bailing you can just replace a t a minimum cost to do that and again reliance club would help support that so anyways long story short when we get done looking at the cost to remove and do everything it makes more sense for us if we're going to go to that extent to just replace if you will the house and i call that the housing the shell whatever you want on the outside and then put the l e d s and side cut a couple of different cost structures on it because of the fact that first i try getting them where they would really just fit directly end there and what happens then you start getting into customizing a sign and when you start get into customizing it really drives your cost up significant way so we were able to work with this one particular company where we could get the signs to fit into that there and then we might have to do a couple of filler panels on the side but it's just like a five inch area on either side so it's when the person looked at him they're going to look exactly the way they look today on the si so many anyways we're at that point where we've come to a cost structure on it when you look at a cost structure on them the total cost of the science will be approximately twenty to twenty to twenty three thousand because there's a couple different variations in it what we're hoping is and we as a farce the lion's club will support changing the metal if you will law that's probably going to run somewhere between five to six thousand dollars range depending what we deal the electronic end of that is approximately sixteen to eighteen thousand again depending on what we're doing as far as the early days are now so what we're hoping maybe through to rogers area that somehow we can support that area and we're looking we're here to see if we can get support from you folks in regards to this and i forgot to say it to be and thank you for giving us this opportunity and i might say that when when when this was brought these people did a ton of work on it i mean they did all the work they went through the process of finding the vendors bring them in or get to this point i said well you know before we do anything else we've got a few things we have to do number one the boards got to see what what we're thinking of number two we then got to go to the historical commission you know have them look at it and get their blessing on it and you know finally if there are those are done then we've got to figure out how to fund it and that those are the three items that remain to be done there's no guarantee this is going to be done what we want to do is put it in front of the board and say this is this is the idea it does work well for us in terms of the b w personnel because we're the ones with changing the little letters up there and bob swanson told me today that the letters getting very difficult to replace that they're not easy to find anymore and the even though the panels that support the letters that are inside the box comments and see where i want to go from here good thank you and go around or you guys want to comment because i mean i remember when you guys put that sign up there and i thought it was wonderful because i remember you know i was a j c and you know we had signs saying you know anywhere from the haunted house to this or that but raji our department has done a great job with  picture of it and i mean it looks nice my first original thought is this is the carmen and i don't want to let tronics on the climb and besides the lights for the memorials and the christmas lights and things like that and  i just wish that there was a way that we could just repair it back to its original state that you folks had designed and came up with and that's what people used to i'm you know we we had voted before not to have you know electronic signage on rue when i say i don't i don't want it on the common you know that's just me it's my opinion what did the   is that i remember when you put it up there and what a great addition it fits and then nicely it looks beautiful and you know is maybe how much does it cost to repair it if you don't mind well and actually be honest with here when we come right down to the end to things by time we get done because we're going to have to have some type of a crane or something come in take them out you have call middle pot take the top in the bottom out and we're going to have to take a mop have them stripped and diced or remade ok and then we have paid to have them put back on so that's that's going to be probably two or three thousand dollars by the time we're done is for just the installation as far remember and put them back and that's not including making the sign the sign to make them is going to run us and i'm working on a couple different things so that i'm not trying to be vague on yet what is probably in the range of around three thirty five hundred to five thousand dollars ok to make them because we're going to change it one hundred percent if we do it now you can we can we go back and do it sure but it's an awful lot of expense that would have to take a look at the real big problem as this time around sure maybe we can do it but next time they start barking and in the center i'm talking about you might not be able to do it and get more letters because it's getting were basically in every sign company you talk talk to and they really don't want to deal if you will with the present size that we have up there because they're all gearing towards electronic and that's why we thought perhaps this is the right time to start looking at doing something like this and that's that's why i want to go to features of these signs if you know i  agree with you if you look a lot at a lot of them are here awful i guess yeah i got these you can in just the intensity on it all right and we can adjust the amount of time that a message is up there so i think sometimes when you leave them up a little longer and you run a little slower they look a lot better than if you're if you're running through a fat yeah i wouldn't want that no i would i don't want that how can that that's that's why we kind of went to this way trying to figure you know what would look nice for our or can we answer if anybody's questions that that are pertaining to distil anyone else my my only concern would be the cost you know it from what i understand we have a limited amount of information that was in  to reach out to the community and mouse soul it really you know comes to you folks because you are the people's representatives you can talk to folks and see what the feeling is and is this something the community would like to have if the board com back and says yeah it sounds like lots of people enthusiastic about this then we'll go to the next step which is to figure out how to fund it and i don't have an answer for it for you tonight but i will tell you that those kinds of numbers it certainly isn't cost prohibitive in any way maybe i'll help change people's opinion i'm only joking  it's something i consider i mean not trying to cause any heavy waves here but i think it would be it's an acid community and i do see the guys up there all the time i think the cost would be saved in a year with labor and you know it's just where they would be able to do other things like work on the roads and you know if you get in you've got the appropriation of the mills tax money for roads  and but i think also looking at funding towards the end of the year to figure out what we can do that makes sense to support this appreciate you doing the work on this thank  thank you i want to echo the sentiment i know how hard you guys work for the fund raising and you know whether it's one thousand dollars a seven or fifteen and it becomes hard and appreciate the the work and the generosity i think i was and i think it was a mistake i was told that he was ok and their story commission was ok so i'm glad i'm hearing now that it's it's this is the first step if you're asking my personal opinion as a selectman i'm not i'm not crazy about the but coming down either north or south on one forty coming into the common we're coming in and you're looking right at a sign that may or may not be changing it's going to catch your attention you've got crosswalks right there you've got rotaries you've got there's a lot of stuff happening there i think i would love this if it was someplace other than the common good fortune the common is where everyone focuses and you get the most attention but at the potential detriment of safety in that area i would i would take a strong look at what this would do if yeah i think i think there's a couple things that you can have the same message up to for two weeks and your eye kind of catches and you go by there's a potential of where it's so easy you can do it from a laptop you could be doing it every you know every hour you could be c cola symbols up there i don't know where it's going to three different messages short of one fade out you know and you know things like that there's a lot of different yeah things but is there enough information that we need to share with everyone the thousand people that come by that use meaning that you know and you know organizations in town are trying to do a fundraiser or any type of a project it's a way for them to communicate to the town that there's something going on oh sure no i understand that now i'm wondering if too much is not a good thing if it even makes it too easy that it's a constant in everyone wants to do it so i mean there's a lot to to think of it something that's going to change you know that for a long long time coming you could definitely you know we would go to the waves but now it's always been fundraisers it's always been something that's charitable or town from nation you don't have to start latin i mean obviously you're not going to bill it out for advertisement to a certain company in town you know  put you on the spot but i don't know if you came for this or if you want to speak it's an opportunity if not the lions club is to be commended for what they're putting into this and that's going to be one of the most labor intensive signs you're going to measure right now however just some concerns if you will laser one thing come the lights or something else repeated changes of messages no right now something goes up there for a week so you drive by you've read it once you don't have to read it every day you  by if it's changes every day or several times a day that's that's another whole consideration i just do i would be remiss if i don't mention the the sacredness of the common and i think over many many steps of the restoration and finally getting the land is back again all the memorials illuminated at night now i  mean that that was to me the pinnacle that to the best of our ability diagnosed never falls on the names of those who served and fought and died for our country so it just in the mix of all of this i  think somehow we have to be very sensitive to that and hopefully that whatever transpires something would evolve that would perhaps not involve the repeat i just you know four or five changes in a day or something like that it just makes it all different if we could control the length of time meaning extend it so it's up there maybe three or four days and i'm not sure if we can or cannot ok or or for a week with as the chairman pointed out on both ends of the common you bring together three distinct flows of traffic and one glass of the word it could be a real safety factor but but i feel i honestly i feel sorry for the highway workers out there every monday morning the letter by letter by letter and and it is limiting you can only have a certain number but i think i think it's great that you would be able to get ot have some exposure to the community the broader community and give some feedback from people so why don't we do this you want to take this were kind of undecided right now and i think a lot of our decision is going to base be based on the historic commission you want to meet with them kind of work out is it a go or no go and again i think you're right i'm not certain that the commission would would just bring the information back to your i mean yeah they don't  is that policy was established i mean sometimes somebody walks in they throw something on the table gee it sounds like a great idea let's go to it well when it involves the common it's a little more sensitive just so on things involving the common give the commission an opportunity to vet it out for you to just give you as complete a list of pros and cons as possible and then i think that's why i think we're seeing the supporters in a good position to make an informed decision electronic signs how often they can change before they become of the safety destruction because they're just issued their regulations for electronic billboards so that information is in the public domain it's available i think we can get it and it's probably going light and white light or something else more storch we pleasing that in the movie i mean spending how much to replace existing infrastructure the way it is five a plexiglas doesn't really give you a tight seal there so what happens you get more page in there because humanity gets in there so that's what's created part of the buckling problem till so if we didn't go forward with doing electronics then we would have to go back and evaluate is it worth just trying to fix what's there without taking them out not really all stores so i mean and i don't know the answer to that question either right at this point so you'd be able to research if they can have say three messages for three or four days and then the time duration yes i'm more than happy to you yeah we are a little bit ahead of schedule we've got the next public hearing starting at eight thirty so we've got a bunch of action items and information right in the action  pointed to canoe river aquifer advisory committee to replace roger hill for a term expiring july first two thousand and thirteen and that's bob worthily the water and sewer superintendent motion to appoint  license you know a certain specific number and no more other towns are just sort of license whoever applies as long as they meet the criteria in the statute i think town council will probably the limited frankly because every time you know we don't get anything from this all you're doing is permitting these folks to sort of civil process but since they carry that constable license you know every time we appoint one there's liability so since we create liability but we get nothing for it is a good argument that we shouldn't just license anybody who wants or we should limit it to ten or five or whatever how many doing us any li end for libelous process serving as well and it was always the possibility of collateral liability for us as the appointing the forty so you know it's something you want to be careful  of there's a lot of constables out there point of my cities and towns they the the criteria to get this is very perverted little so you know there's no education required percent say there's no training required per se so subway subway forty five thousand three hundred forty seven dollars and twenty two cents to the charles james fox monument fund from the monument committee and if you recall john was in front of us a few months ago and he and i think we  christine is does this affect in any way those legal it doesn't interact in any way as this board's actions know that it may well affect those things that are not we're not party to town is not a party to we've been watching very carefully to ensure that your conditions were being honored and you saw some recent correspondence that was not consistent with your vote we made a call that money was remitted to that party sold otherwise we told them there would be a show cause hearing here in front of you but that was taken care of him and that's been the only litigation that you know we've seen lately that involved the original vote of this board a lot of them out this business is in good standing so far  those people at home and think it's finity is raising their rates a little bit i think they're required to tell us that this is uva for for me that's in there and a special permits for some cross foxborough acting as the local licensing authority pursuant to mass general laws chapter one thirty eight to conduct a public hearing on tuesday january eighth two thousand and thirteen at eight thirty p m in the andrew a gala junior meeting room forty south street foxboro massachusetts on applications for issuance of a transfer of an all alcohol of an annual all alcoholic beverages restaurant license from n p s l l c to honky incorporated to ninety five patriot place in foxboro massachusetts change of license type from club license to restaurant license and change of locations all interested persons are invited to attend the hearing  massachusetts thank you welcome if we have representation from the applicant and this is the floor where the restaurant the main entrance is here the alleyway between here or the alleyway between the building and the renaissance runs right here so the renaissance will be back here ok and this is the the toby keith on this side  were proposing to do is to build out a basically a family style restaurant that's abaci cooking i'm not sure if you're familiar with the concept but it's many many tables  surface cooking and fresh meat vegetables chicken fish everything prepared right there at the table it's not really alcohol served but that's not the primary purpose there i'll call the ancillary to the food service food service is the primary objective at the restaurant locations approximately seventy eight a hundred square feet it's got occupancy for two hundred seventy five persons two hundred twenty two seats  proposed ninety five seats will be at the hibachi table so we can look at that a little bit more closely seventy seven seats in the dining room eighteen seats are at the lounge bar and there are thirty idea proposed hours on the license are monday through saturday eleven a m to one a m and twelve noon on sunday two one am we're familiar with the rules and regulations very detailed and specific will no live entertainment they'll be no karaoke it will be some background music and three or four televisions just around the lounge bar area in addition i think it would be probably appropriate to mention this point there was a incident that had occurred i think a chefs at the table hitting the spatulas a little bit at the grill but that's the extent of the the entertainment table side mr lynn has excellent experience he has several restaurants in the pennsylvania area manager one currently does all the training he knows all the there all the time as far as training her alcohol training for the staff weren't to supporting tips training for everybody including the cooks everybody is going to be there especially the table s cooks in addition to that we're going to be working with brian urlacher at the patriot place with the team training concept as well so they will have tips training and training in terms of them operating together as a team at the restaurant  anything will be over prepared to handle that interesting about the end so the entertainment there will be no live entertainment that is correct the background music in television there is a component in the application for live entertainment that's for the t v or televisions because the law actually requires says the televisions are live so there are three licenses up at the stadium can you that is that is correct playing where they are absolutely it would be helpful if i showed you a map of the three locations i thought i just have a question for kevin i thought i had read that the transfer for the club license was to the pro shop area and  was a lot of confounders on a week or two of massive confusion got not in any way created by mr nolan in trying to understand where the three licenses are in the history yet i don't know if that is pertinent to this hearing tonight but i do think probably at some point we should sit down with with counsel and we should probably go through that so that what may have happened is the licenses are a legacy from before the new stadium and over time they may have changed in nature and use and they may not be consistent with the current filings that we've got on on file and that's what i think we need to sit down and be sure so that everything is buttoned up clearly because i will tell you that examining our records in terms of those three licenses  i'm not sure that what's on the license that we have is what in fact is is happening so we want to be sure that even if there's any technical deficiencies like it's being used in an area where it wasn't on that license initially think there's any you know ill intent on anybody's part but we want to get that buttoned up and have the obligation come in for a change of premises or whatever's necessary in order to be sure that everybody is covered licensing authority knows exactly where they are and what they're doing jim and his folks know exactly where they are and what they're doing so that that's clear separate from tonight i think what we want to talk to jim about and get back with a memo or something to the board is an indication of exactly where the premises that were licensed by this transfer you know what's going to where those activities are going so that that's clear i think for everybody's mutual benefit so they don't there's no confusion because right now it's pretty confusing but i think we we thought as late it does this afternoon we advised labor a special counsel that this transfer was the so called club trying to match these licenses up to the promises so we want to come back and do that make sure that what we've got on file matches what's going on here is your question the reason i believe in free licenses was a waste each license has to be to a contiguous premises so once you go outside of the four walls of would have a license you know the license you can't have a license to separate from the sense so if there's two or three separate premises you need opposed to free the you know i was given up a license can't have any more functions they have to be in the other two boys ok but to be clear that they're not giving up the me an e mail with the dick element kevin pecos and this was forwarded so this is part of the record of what this document that they provide did to the board it talks about the rights and privileges that a commercial club license has and that the ability to included in the stadium weiss is just going to check description and make sure that's part of it if you should amend the description to include think that would be a change of premises application of would come aboard that's exactly what we want to sit down and get clear in our room jim ok so that's that was some of the the back bookkeeping no the largest six in the stadium but getting back to the restaurant any questions on the restaurant i'm excited to see it come i think it's great i don't see a big function holly area type thing but they're all it's all restaurants i mean seating is bar separate just go to the bar without dinners or areas for that there is it's relatively small chairman i always recommend of the board that you make if it's a pleasure the board to grant the license that you make the floor plan a condition and part of the license so that the owner understands that if there's any deviation from the plant it must come back to licensing authority for change the hours of operation is that go hand in hand with the other establishment is there so it's just staying up later saying open the later is this going to be a more of a drain on the services that we have as you might not know that but the hours of know i mean it's a concern that i had really in terms of you know the whole discussion we've been having about dealing with public safety in that area so  i think it's something we need to discuss and the hours of operation without any changes to our current public safety situation there i think it can be set on the difference between the current license and what it functions as and again i want to reserve the right to get to understand a little more clearly versus this this is an intensification there's going to be a lot more i was of liquor being served  restaurant than is currently the case with the licenses being transferred from that point of view i think yes it's undeniable that there's a greater impact on public safety due to this license than there is  currently at the time i'll also add in this conversation the chief and i had just tonight this kind of venue is a very welcome venue because this is clearly a restaurant not a bar and so the anticipation from the chief and myself and others is that this is going to be a good addition to the business community up there is going to be a good addition to patriot place it's going to bring lots of good folks that are coming here for a good meal and entertaining them with the knives are and it's going to be a real asset to the community and of course this is a source of mil's tax revenue  at so let's take it any more discussion questions to an alcohol restaurant license for  record sheet a one dated eleven three two thousand and twelve all that prevents is you know it in the i'm not suggesting you do this but i have seen in other places where you know small bars or bars that start off as you know fifteen seed bar suddenly morphs into of forty seat bar and the licensing authority is kind of wondering when did that happen and i was simply as it was working always misunderstood always has it's always part of the other packages that we have though the sage and batu steakhouse a two ninety five page of place emotion made second second by mark discussions question i'd like to ask that we have a discussion about having the hours to eleven o'clock until we can perhaps get feedback from what are the public safety issues that you know what are what is going on in terms of a report statistics the impact on our third shift right now and really what needs to in order to ensure that we can catch up to where we need to catch up to for public safety  concerned that you know restaurants are typically open till o'clock i think one o'clock does make it slightly different even though people will still be eating i think it's just maybe a different you'll have a different clientele that late at night and i just want to make sure that we are geared up for public safety to deal with that what are the conditions on most who go the restaurants right now twelve o'clock i think keith i think if it helps if the concern is i know the board some of you spoken to me individually was looking for some sort of the of a report a memo or something about what's been happening in terms of liquor impact drain on resources those sorts of things and we're working on that i can't you know for sure this budget season right now the month of january for me to get my budget turned in by february one to add comment to you for the manager act so there's only so much time i can devote right now to other issues it's really very compressed my schedule but in february but there we are working on those numbers the chief his staff my inturn and sometime in february we'll have a report for you i don't know because of the nature of this restaurant i doubt very much that the nature of this restaurant is going to have any sort of a significant impact on the town's police resources i mean frankly whether it closes at eleven or it closes at midnight or closes at one a m it's just not the nature of this kind of business that is going to impact us so the only question i would ask for the trip there is if it's an eleven o'clock is when you're going to close any wise you know no harm will fall but if your plan your business plan is to you know the open later i hate to see the board put an impediment on waiting for something from us which we can't get you right now physically but we will have for you and with everybody i think with an opening day in july we should have the know i think from a public safety standpoint we have to take a look at this because this is you know frankly what we're going to be talking about the future additional liquor licenses up there this is the fourteenth license that right now we had a certain plan in place for up to twelve licenses the thirteenth license added a huge number of patrons in that area so i need to you i think you need to consider in the chief and i are very very aware you know of the public safety impact by the concentration of licenses and that's kind of what we're analyzing for you and we'll have that report and thanks for reminding me that the build out this doesn't even open til june correct july probably july so we'll have that information bacteria so understanding that's the case i would definitely not put that early closer in i mean we'll have that information back you are completely at liberty specifically because if there's a fine dining restaurant we did that certainly would be one and there is is it a m to one a m on weekdays twelve new twenty m on sunday end of the night at i think that would be married to say you know that might tip the scale here to penalize the last guy that's coming in and think it's going to impact all the other restaurants as and i just don't i don't see i don't see it ability i see more like eleven thirty twelve o'clock that's fridays and saturdays during the week probably the same as the other restaurants you know you know i still think we have a public safety issue that we have to deal and i mean that there is still an ar officers public safety personnel so i think it's definitely a discussion for another time i think we can just basically stereotype want business from another but i don't i think