lease ten new police vehicles ok this is discussed in committee without objection on consent see nine number one more peer on the consent to gender number two item number two a resolution authorizing the approval of the budget for the upper union street bid introduced only with a resolution calling for a public hearing on wednesday december twenty sixth two thousand and twelve at seven p m council chambers room two zero zero nine schenectady city hall one zero five j street schenectady new york ok this is only for calling for the public hearing so without objection on consent number three item number three a resolution making appointments to the land realisation corporation of the capitol regions property disposition committee discussed in committee without objection i'm consent number three will appear on the consent agenda number four item number four a resolution authorizing the settlement of a claim by larry bratton for the amount of three thousand dollars discussed in claims committee without objection on consent number four will pier on the consent of judge number five item number five a resolution authorizing the settlement of a claim by allen teller for the amount of sixty thousand dollars again discussed in claims committee without objection on consent number six five will appear on the consent agenda number six number six resolution accepting title to fourteen myers alley from the schenectady urban renewal agency began discussed in committee without objection it will appear on the consent agenda number seven item number seven a resolution authorizing the transfer of title of fourteen meyer's alley consisting of parcels numbered s p l number three nine point six five d h one point one five and three nine point six five dash one dash sixteen t tag and also discussed in committee without objection on consent number eight item number eight a resolution recognizing the notre dame bishop givens cross country team and the item number nine a resolution authorizing the approval of the two thousand and thirteen d s a day assessment k in the wording on resolution number nine has been changed and for any of the public that are interested that change is available up by the rail on the table so without objection our consent number nine discussed in committee without objection number nine will appear on the consent janda anything else to appear or to come before the city council caucus scene i would ask for a motion to adjourn so moved by council member king seconded by council member ricky those in favor were please rise for the pledge of allegiance and if you want to take pictures to come right up so you can get yourself a good shot even if you want to come inside given's cross country team coached by coach for the past fourteen years won their first state championship in school history during the two thousand and twelve season and where as the paley brian for max percent sykora and whereas the team won championship at the herman invitational held in utica on september twenty ninth scoring twenty eight points and whereas the team won the championship at this section one coach's invitational championship on october twentieth scoring forty one points and whereas the team won the championship at the big ten championships that took place at october twenty fourth scoring twenty four points making this the team's third year as the big ten champions and whereas the team won the championship at the section  the extraordinary achievements of the notre dame bishop givens cross country team and the coach of fourteen years coach jonathan broderick and congratulates them for winning their first state title in the school's history during this two thousand and twelve co next i would ask for approval of the  right out of my mouth or i was sorry it's contagious very contagious communications presented to the city council for monday december tenth two thousand and twelve from the mayor a list of appointments dated december tenth two thousand and twelve a letter from the schenectady police benevolent association thanking for the county thanking the council for their support of updating the police department patrol fleet under general bell be a private preservation and will be sponsoring the thirteenth annual bellevue community wide christmas in bellevue on thursday december thirteenth beginning at six p m to like the tree and place a wreath at the veterans monument at westinghouse place under petitions there are none ok thank you mr clair me reports are there any committee reports from the council amount of the assessment the same as prior years so there is no increase no decrease it's keeping it flat which will allow the g s a seated to continue to do the great work they do for promoting businesses in downtown and so i do want to make sure you know people but one of that we had a conversation while back about the rose garden and the fees that were in the budget and i think that if somehow we can put that on the agenda to discuss how we're going to handle those those t planning committee has a key agenda item here making appointments to the landry utilization corporation of the capitol regions property despite his disposition committee and we have our appointing rene bradley linda keller her john would've aaron eleanor pepper christine sarah feeney and richard forus and i just want to thank these people and other very qualified people who had spec's pressed a willingness and an interest in serving and if we didn't appoint them to this there will be other committee appointments coming up and we will be considering them for that so thank you i thank you calls member king anyone else  present i just want to report on the housing standards review board that we've been discussing i did meet with the group of landlords is actually very impressive turnout i would say there was somewhere between thirty five and forty people there that night  and everyone got a chance to understand what we were looking at from the city as far as from the legal perspective what the board would take care of i also was able to hear some of their recommendations as well and we'll be continuing our conversations that only as a council but with our legal department and also our codes you know office so that we can get on the same page and move forward with this but i just paper stated this morning was that they're in such bad shape after a couple of years or something to that effect is do anyway that we could check with the communities around to see how they're keeping their vehicles up if they're going down as fast as our plus the state troopers to see if there is something that they're doing that we're not doing to try and keep these vehicles going more thank you thank  city whenever it's absolutely necessary my concern is are these vehicles been abused i've seen city vehicles being abused them is city and there's no repercussions now a year ago we had all those accidents they've been reduced this year but what happened to these people that had a number of city accidents at fault accidents almost one hundred  all when we i thought for sure that we were talking about buying these vehicles and now i see here that is for leasing when you least these vehicles is the maintenance provided on them by the dealer or as a city providing maintenance i don't know which way we're going here because we get very little information on this piece of paper two years side of the great because up to date about the maintenance of the city vehicles in a two year con purchasing them and for years the major difference in the maintenance of these vehicles it's unbelievable i have had many vehicles in my life and i drive quite a few miles every year and some of this expense on the maintenance of these vehicles just blows my mind as to how expensive it is and that's my concern is that because some of the most of these residents don't live in the city that they don't care how they drive our vehicles  street what is the bid what's it for your head going to have a beating in the december regarding this bid for upper union street what's the bid for what are you going to do up on the upper union street what's that money for is it a yearly thing is it just a one time shot is a maintain the streets the sidewalks storefronts are city employees going to get a discount i don't know what your bid is for there's no good evening my name is mary maclean and i live in this at a my statement tonight ages based on the comments made by mayor by the mayor dawn on december third during the committee meeting regarding the purchase of city cars he said quote the city will buy new cars keep them for one year and then sell them the following year because quote there is no cost the maintenance for a new car during the first year of ownership and quote the savings on maintenance will be your rooms to pay for new  every year quote maintenance on equipment is a substantial cost to the city unquote in other words save on maintenance may no costs the city too much money the thinking of city officials in december now let's go back to the summer in july five council members voted to purchase a piece of equipment for one hundred  team thousand dollars the machine is to be used to clean the snow from the sidewalks around the city schools period that condo work can be outsource a private contractor with the proper equipment could have bed on the work instead council voted to buy the equipment for the city workers plow if your vote tonight is yes to buy ten vehicles in orders to spend order to save on maintenance costs and council needs to cancel the order for the snowplow that will be loose to clean the schools sidewalks it can't be both ways so far none of it makes any sense my boat would be no in both cases no junior right as a lot of you know i've had difficulty speaking here in the past i watched my performance here at the rail and couldn't help but to feel a sense of embarrassment as i transition from thought to thought not completely explaining or addressing what i had written down and meant to say neck on december twelfth two thousand and ten by schenectady police officers roughly improperly handling me during the commission of the on lawful arrest and detention of myself which i have furnished this counsel with a copy of the disposition for as proof alone in that single instance that some sort of foul play is going on you know in the fact that i asked you guys for help and nobody got back to me that just shows that you know you're guilty by collusion like i mean honestly even if you try to hide behind corporation counsel's order to not take anything from me anyway this arrest had alternately led to me being so badly injured that i had to be permanently perscribe been placed on heavy duty narcotic pain medication which i broadly take around six o'clock and on comes in the full effect around the time that i come up to the rail this medication has a range of side effects from excessive talking confusion to drowsiness and excitement with a host of other undesirable side effects that dramatically hinder my ability and performance to the sedation of this medication which is why i haven't taken this medication tonight and sacrifice my comfort from pain for the importance of delivering a concise focused fluid message and on i mean see me shaken and so much pain literally without my medication and i you could i could think those going to be on police for that but on you know so at this time also clarified to you mrs brucker why and serve her you know your smiles and you know your compliments on his rhetoric you know i'm not trying to find you it's just something that i've drawn as a conclusion and formulated my conclusion based on reasons being one you've either called my name from the sign up sheet way out of order or not at all to you didn't allow me to speak on city business when i was a little late to sign up where you would let many others do just that i think that's a little bit of bias in three you abruptly interrupted in intervened the continuation of my thoughts and concerns here at the rail when i had ten or second so left to speak not being allowed to summarize or proceed for i seen you smile when the man was on you know making a statement about comparing dealing with you guys to dealing with the lucchese crime family i just that's disturbing to me and the way i record everything so i could produce but on you know five you approached me in my private life to tell that i had great command of the english language but went on to encourage that i discontinue my efforts and presence at the city council meeting it further demonstrates it further demonstrates your position in all this by not helping me in ridiculing me when i do bring these things to attention to disregard and obstruct my desperate cries for help and relief from the abuses that i've endured and continue to adore and or you defile the most sacred virtues of america by depriving me of my most basic rights to liberty and justice that's a mechanism this issue with the minutes here that allows things to elude being you know being seen you know and there's a lot of things that are interwoven into the fabric of policies and procedures here that we literally house and facilitate mary brand still resonates connected to my subject tonight is the recycling program this past summer we heard for months about recycling it was really really in my opinion overdone but if recycling is making us money then it's well worth it but we never find out how much money will make it on recycling we never know how much profit there is when you weigh the vehicles that employees salaries and everything in together and what we make of the recycling what is there and where does it go those are a couple of questions i'd like to have answered some time some hollow also the separation of the recycling material on many occasions i've seen them all go in the same truck is a cheaper if we put everything together we make up better that way and run one truck and put it together or is it still necessary to separate it and also the way the material is put into the trucks i've witnessed last week several places in the city different streets where the driver would jump out the vehicle still moving the handbrake is slammed on the truck is coming to  halt and he jumps out grabs the container bags it against the side of the truck most of it went in what a lot of it did not gets back in the truck drives off the materials on the ground in front of the residen is this the way we do business in the city don't they care aren't they instructed i don't know but there has to be some other better way of doing things in a much neater and professional manner they're getting paid by the city they're getting a pension from the city and benefits so there must be some way that we construct these people and there's a lot of other departments i'm concerned about how they're handling their business and how we're treating employees and telling them what to do the employees shouldn't be telling us how to run things it's up to our city council to see that our supervisors at our commissioners whoever's in charge do a good job not in follow up on these employees i see a city truck driving around phone the garbage trucks picking up things that got missed and doing several things which is excellent no complaints on that but it doesn't happen all the time and the other thing is all these impunity employees taking a break on city time i don't mind twenty minutes twenty five minutes for a break even if the contract says fifteen but when it comes to forty five minutes in an hour i think that's terrible i've seen city vehicles parked at different stores in a city eleven fifteen a quarter to twelve they take off to go someplace else for their lunch hour by an sandwiches and different stores around the city for a lunch hour eleven thirty they're going to lunch all are there at the bank at the words between nine thirty and two thirty in the morning  and things like this that's your responsibility that's why you're reluctant to office and i think you ought to enforce  to my grandchildren of eight people come up to me say where in god's name did this money come from we could go to even have a go walking down the mall same thing i grew up the bowling alleys where my granddaughter balls for the high school same thing i wish this stuff would get out before the budget i mean you know it's there let us know about it i mean people are people are jumping all over me and i'm not sitting there now i do a lot of complaining but the saturday before thanksgiving people cross tree from as they were running the house they moved and they put garbage i say from here to the wall on the inside or fence right near the sidewalk and i have to be talking to vince one day on the phone and i told him about it so he rode by such easy so that's bad you contact the carlos and they take you to the house well we didn't get a garbage collector for week and a half after was on a tuesday after i'm sitting in the paul or watching t v and i see the garbage truck across the street because they put all the stuff by the curb in half it was out on the road these poor garbage men went through the dickens getting the stuff on the truck they had to sweep up the street two or three times because stuff flying all over the place so i did those guys an awful lot of credit and i opened a door and i thank so i usually don't complain but i am thanking them thank you thank you laurie robinson volunteer monies given by various not for profit organizations but now it just sounds like everybody's being incest so we're just going to have to wait for that is getting the rest of it so if i pay for the and i am awarded four hundred dollars a year and hit the payments that means two in the courses year i get one hundred dollars and national grid gets four hundred three hundred so i'm sure national grid  exceedingly grateful that i do make that request and i think this is just ridiculous and then i made a suggestion one time to having these save some money for me had the company make more money and everything would be but all of a sudden i say that to several people and they at at the county legislature that all of those pieces around here are being destroyed and  to summarize because some big individual has forbidden them to do that somebody around there has a bigger better idea my name's over birch i live in new york in order to park drive and for off and on for a number of years i've done a program on access television called green talk in which i try to have people who have public positions or public policies come in and explain them or talk about them most recently i've done two programs with vince rickey and mr cutler in which we're talking about the agreement recently signed by the city for sales tax sharing between the county and the city then he not to go into any details the two programs incidentally half hour each are obviously available on channel sixteen but with the on demand and if you talk you find what i'd like to do is to really invite any member of the council or the mare to participate in the program and i know that  the mayor has in the past i think his broker has as well in the past and obviously mr draghi most recently but to talk about this agreement and explain it to the public based on the information provided there which is on one side it's not you know there may be other positions to this it seemed like the city is getting a very short stick that about twenty years ago the city was getting in the range of eleven million dollars a year from the year so they've gone from twenty to eighty nine but the city's portion is still in the range of eleven and if i understood correctly it'll be eleven seven with the agreement signed them a thirtieth and will it go up by two percent a year so it seems the information that i got at least that one has been side on to is a very bad deal for the city there are very severe implications for the county if the city were to got it collected its own sales tax as i understood it based on what i heard from mr kopper and mr rigby but and it would be very difficult for the county but you know the primary concern for the city council is not narrow minded but it has to be the city of the city residents that sees me and i don't know if that's what happened and as i say that i only heard one side and i would be very pleased to have anybody from the council who has a different position to be able to talk to me about it and it seems they only have four seconds left my hero and eventually i'm sorry the other thing i'd point out is that there are six members of the county legislature from the city and only one spoke up here and spoke up in favor of the eleven million dollar deal that was finally passed which in itself seemed as part of their presentation that who's said that over one hundred million dollars has been given to the city through metroplex i can't find any information that substantiates that is our whole residency and i'm sorry could you please summarize that ok that is the summary i can't find any substantiation and i think that the city council as well as the residents of the city should be requesting that thank you and again  to hear from anybody who has a half hour to spare thank you laurie robinson here help these teenagers get into the mainstream and more programs need to be for the teenagers here more recreation programs oh no if there's any way we could work you know one on one while you know help bridge that gap because we're losing our teenagers and we need to reach out to thank you thank you ma'am ok i have no one else signed up for privilege of the floors i will consider that close yeah and miscellaneous this is from the council to give a little update on operation quality of life i have some numbers from lieutenant ben dog and i am very pleased for the month of november there was fifty four citations written by a directed patrol and i think that's very good and it's a good start and i don't have the breakdown of how these numbers the breakdown of what the citations were for exactly how many were for littering and for loud music or what not but i think that's really an important first step that we're taking as a city and i think it's going to really pay off so i think the police department i think lieutenant been doing for helping put this together and he says the men on patrol the they're very happy and they they can see some good coming out of this so i think there's a really a very good positive for the city is connected about the police cars i believe were leasing to buy unless i'm confused about this so if that's and if that is the case again i don't see any real advantage to getting rid of them after a year or two years  these cars have a factory warranty to start with so any high ticket items i'm going to guess we should at least use up the factory warranty before we think anything about changing a car that's drive train and that's the big ticket items on cars you know and john transmission differential naturally the normal maintenance that everybody has to do on their car should do anyhow but i believe these chargers have a five year hundred thousand mile warranty on them so certainly we should be able to come somewheres if they get any kind of maintenance which we are getting from the county with our agreement that we should be able to keep these in operation these cars and get our money's worth out of them that's what i would like to see a one or two year trade or if we want to sell them on the open market i don't see how that can be a good idea so with that in mind i don't think there was any agreement as far as i know less i miss something i fell asleep at a committee meeting that we're going to sell these in one year or two years or anything i believe that's going to be open for discussion so i just want to get that out there the way feel about the cars obviously the department needs these cars to operate and they're going to brand new cars and they will have a brand new factory warranty and that gives everybody the you have the confidence when you buy a new car that you have a warranty with it so you don't have to have any big out of dollar expense so i think we should use that to its fullest extent is the last meeting before christmas for us we're not going to be till the twenty sixth i want to wish everybody a merry christmas happy hanukkah and happy holidays and the best for everything that's coming up  know thank you just to add to the mystery you was talking about with the police vehicles i don't know if you fell asleep or not but they are some of the things we talked about in terms of the lease versus the buy it's  sentially buying them but it's a it's done in the least from the way it was explained to us that it's a four year lease it's just four years of payments and then you buy it for a dollar through the lease it's just another way of financing them  from what i understand we're not replacing the vehicles after four years the lot of the vehicles were going to replacing with these new ones that are coming in are vehicles that are much older than four so we're just financing them over four years but we might keep them quite a few years longer than that  depending on how you know they're running and in biology and usage and stuff so i just wanted to add to that that you know these vehicles get a lot of hours they're running twenty four hours a day and in some cases a lot of idle time  so you know we've got to keep the fleet updated and i think a lot of the discussion that we had the debate you know a lot of this was you know there are some questions in terms of people understanding is not enough information here the committee meetings that we have you know last week or the week before each council meeting is where all the discussion between all of us in the city you know the partment heads are conducted so you know people are curious a lot of times you could watch this committee meetings on the opposite monday and get a lot of this information but  there's you know running a fleet of vehicles is expensive and we're trying to find think the most cost effective way and that's somewhat of a challenge sometimes because there's no definitive answer of what's the exact best day to trade in a vehicle depends a lot of factors that are always changing but in this case prior years we have not so last year we did not replace any vehicles you can only go so long and not replace your vehicle so having a few a year i think is probably the first of all i just want to talk a little bit about the d s a d budget assessment excuse me that we passed this evening during the time we were discussing this in talking to different people about it i had the opportunity to talk to business owners as well as owners as well and so i encourage people who don't feel like they're getting the benefit from d s i say to really get more engaged with them to it participate in the events and in talking to mr so and go i found there were a lot of things that they do that maybe people don't know about and maybe a little bit more marketing i actually you know suggest him market a little bit better because sometimes people have the feeling that they're spending money in a certain way and a lot of things that they're doing they're getting in kind i also encouraged him to reach out to some of the small business owners who are saying you know we're not being included in the at the end of the day we all want the same thing we want to thriving downtown we want to be included whether we're a small business whether it's a large business we all want to be included and so i encourage over the next year that the  work with the small business owners and vice versa because this is going to come up again so when we get there we want to make sure that everybody is getting the best benefit that they can and if it calls for an increase then that's something we could do the people need to feel that they're getting a value  and also as i said i know does a good job with a lot of other areas with reaching out to business owners in promoting what they do a little bit more i think would also help as well and i also want to announce that on the eighteenth next what decides to stay united neighborhoods has invited the city council members the mayor and city department heads to a holiday meet and greet at seven p m at proc five and five p m don't be don't get their seventh of the flu to be gone and everybody else well as well at five p m approaches so this is an opportunity for you know us to get together and talk to folks who represent different neighborhoods at a  very friendly kind of atmosphere so i just wanted to announce that and lastly i'd like to say merry christmas happy holidays or happy kwanzaa whatever people celebrate and we'll look forward to seeing you again on the twenty sixth at the council meeting district i'm sure the listing will come up and you can learn all you've ever wanted to know about that bid in addition as far as the single stream recycling it's something that i inquired about too and something has been discussed prior to my joining the council and having the equipment to do single stream was cost prohibitive to the city but i do appreciate mr brand for bringing up the recycling issue because it is one that's very important to me and to just remind everyone that you can comingle glass and tin you know metal and also plastic but your cardboard and your paper do have to be separate and that can include cereal boxes and all sorts of good things so once again i offer drop off stickers to who ever wants to start restart cycling i'll get my car and bring you stickers in this great handbook to your home just go to the city website and the newly named veterans westinghouse park and that's at the point of children in broadway followed by seven pm lit a party with refreshments game prizes at st paul the episcopal and they do sponsor a service person who is on active duty in the war area so they do ask for donations of packaged items such as tea had chocolate powder drink mixes snacks toiletries playing cards batteries things like that also mount pleasant on the same night december thirteenth is having their holiday party they're having an italian buff a ferrari's and if you're interested in going to that three nine three two one one six that's sharon at three nine three two one one six if you want to join in their festivities and she's also reported that in addition to painting fire hydrants they made certain for businesses to hang during the holiday season so a wonderful wonderful  association and then lastly it's time for my quarterly reminder about nine one one a i think you know we forget that it's in place and it's a really important initiative it's free which is the best part and you can pre register and offer additional information such as your medical condition room locations to where an elderly parent might be emergency can tax just need to do is go to w w w nine one one i dot com and you can put that information in addition you can offer an emergency phone number where you can get notification if your elderly parent calls nine one one you can get alerted to the fact that they've done so so it really is a wonderful free service as provided by the city that i will continue to remind people to utilize thank you notes i'll just add my good wishes to everyone here for to have a wonderful holiday season brother all these people are calling me about nine one one they're on my notification less so it's a system that does work and that again it's free and city of schenectady and people should have veil themselves to it well i thank everyone for coming down tonight well i wish the celts old families one here in america christmas kwanzaa hanukkah and really the best in the new year a lot of great things happening in the city would encourage people to shop and take advantage of our stores restaurants proctor's and all the good things that are happening here and look forward to continued progress in two thousand and thirteen thank you thank you mr mayor same here happy holidays to everyone thank everyone for coming down this evening taking time out of your busy shopping schedule as the mayor said if you have an opportunity to get downtown it's looks beautifully decorated and i also want to thank those residents in the city is schenectady that took a lot of time to decorate their home so take a drive around because there's a lot of homes it seems especially this year for some reason that are decorated and i think it directly speaks to pride of homeownership and that's really what we're about here in the city is