i'm here on behalf of the administration we are proposing this summer to build a new public works storage facility up in peter's wood park purpose is basically for t store excess equipment and materials that public works is running out of room for down of the main complex that the building will be located if you guys decorations community day started by like to get under a roof and were purchasing in the street sweeper i believe that will be stored up in the building as well along with some mowing equipment asphalt  side walls will serve as retaining walls some of the site work will have to relocate a drainage whale on the stand the asphalt parking lot of it to actually get into the building  so we're piping you know all the all the runoff into that facility in terms of landscaping like i said most of the buildings bury and it's kind of outside in that area of the park so we didn't have any specific way and scraping proponents for the  mr brian stelter i know they you know down at the park entrance they're about maxed out in terms of what they can do storage wise down you know at this point any type of master plan from the public works i'm not sure that that's that's really in the thought process right now i think they're just trying to get you know we have a space available up next and so on and i think they want to utilize that in terms of where they go from here and really can't have that that it's a site really it's a site plan approval planning staff recommends that we prove the point in the township of bides by the rules as if we were a private developer we get building permits we required traffic impact phoebe ok based on pm peak hour traffic in use and this is converting from a residence to a retail facility is subject to a traffic individual driveway access to it all proposed lots need or want to dash one single family conventional zoning requirements half acre minimum fifty foot setbacks  d e p is required in they're working on getting all that information into the township so we could submit it to d p there is an open space obligation of point to one  six thousand seven hundred twenty dollars fee in lieu of open space dedication the developer owners here have chosen to dedicate a point to one acres near the township has two public open space parcels right adjoining the back of lot foreigners they are called the plan is satisfying our obligation by dedicating point to one acres to be adjacent to the existing open space that we have these laws are subject to a traffic impact features for your mission each law would pay one thousand three hundred eighty six dollars at the time of building permit approval each law stream you need a person from the peace the need to obtain that and provide that to the township prior to the issuance of a building permit for life and that's noted as a condition on the actual plan that would condition so conditions out lie in staff february fourth memo this is a recommendation and it seems like everyone is are in they have a hardship anymore when it comes to these signs and they already have one sign and we're only talking one hundred feet away from this one and i mean that's i want to get us in a position where we're setting precedent where on the other issue you have to if you're going to this isn't going to help anyone coming towards highs worse from mcmurry road because you're go there the structure is single storey and approximately two thousand and sixty two square feet there is an existing situation in which the accents trying to get to the structure right way to get up to the old don't see that as a big problem in t v team brought up but enough to get a gorgeous truck up there in what we would a car would need to make sure to turn and what is that there's a house up in the hole behind it right that's where the dry wood continues to correct and which also has and he's been will be some are trying to come down on it just seems like we're creating a very intricate traffic movement and we're going to predicate that on the use is making sure we're not a clip saying this thirty the land use so i don't think we have a big concern there and also let me set aside as ministers of good said about the r b s and the an issue in my mind excuse me as far as the property behind it is a significant tract but in our meetings with ministers uk he pointed out to realize a change in zoning to have anything other than residential construction or development so i don't think that's a big problem and you have to keep in mind the noble cause of mr bertie here and he's just trying to you know develop you know renovate an existing property that still appetite ated he's faced with this pinch point there a piece a shop and we're addressing it like you would if you picture in your mind when you go to any temporary bridge construction and how you stack vehicles we're doing it the most logical trying to keep free flow they're reading the t p d said the first responders were concerned about getting their vehicles up there they said they felt that people would not you know provide access or stop or move off to the side allow them access in this thing has historically been there for fifty years and it hadn't been to my understanding hadn't been a problem in the past i don't know if it had any there'd been any situations where first responders did you know have to respond to the area but we're dealing with we're trying to do the best with the with the cards were handed and we think we're making the best attempt it trying to improve this somewhat blighted property or are building there mr bertie's already taken down the trees that you see between arby's in motel there he will he is not know have a cool biog moment and get together and work together on this and try to make this work for him he's just dealing with these conditions that he's faced and we think we have the understand your concerns now we do and it was a motel that twelve rooms i mean you had twelve cars right for many years there was no peak well from what i understand there was a peak around lunch time understand but may i offer again that i think planning is made a good suggestion and condition by governing that the vehicle volume and that will dictate what the land use this pretty lengthy list of what can and what cannot be developed there and i think we would abide by that i did want to add in our discussion on the way up here well when i mention that we thought even some of the restrictions could be lessened as far as a high level restaurant or something not a fast food or anything but we could dictate their peak vehicle volume based on  foot high retaining wall there and the problem with wendy's is they would lose three or more parking spaces where would that spiral to them you could come in right behind the existing if you were out there way it is a strike to mark now there would be there's a it doesn't show the three foot elevation relief there are also so you have to provide for that slo even in a three foot high you could do maybe a one to one slope because when you're short slopes you can go a little steeper in a two to one net and kind of work it a little bit but they would still lose some parking spaces and they were not comfortable with that you're talking two hundred times or more a day give or take with that this maneuver of going to happen of cars possibly passing each other in the pm peak we're limiting it to every two minutes we're going to have this well and even rb has an access on the nineteen a lot of people coming in and out of arby's use that as well so not only are you going to have people coming in and out of this property you have people coming out from our views as well in i may seems like mr bertie is is being chastised almost for being surrounded by fast food restaurants too because they have high vehicle pete use where is he has these high volume parcels on either side and we're just trying to look for something we're willing to accept conditions provided we just want to improve that property  what a great play on words thank you i think we can all agree that anything being done at that broccoli will be better than what's there now there's no question of that i think that thank probably is needed at this point may very well be the worst eyesore profile thing with i think without question without question is the worst i township thank you but i just don't see how we can recommend approval without knowing what the use is going to be and i mean no matter what we do there's not we it's twelve feet wide i mean no matter what we do it's he secure a tenant when he's not even sure that he's going to get approval first how can he define that property use beforehand when someone knew would put an option on the property goes to do diligence and realizes then that they don't they can be assured of getting the variance it is kind of good you want to do i'm sorry  people and they'd like to have two people two representatives from the plane a commission serve on a committee to study the mineral extraction in this drilling compression some others released this and coming back to the committee will come back to planning commission and council with some recommendations on how we should handle zoning fluor that they sit down in figure out our plan of attack what we need to be thinking about and what we need to be doing in terms of studies so i sent an e mail out  liked that idea all second  here i checked with that to see if there's a schedule of you know what is our time frame for this try to understand what that we can mimic is if i make it i want to be able to fulfill it sure it seems as though we're going to have a few night meetings it's probably only will remain to do a few month process not a year or something like that i mean that's what we think at this point i understand it's ever evolving i gladly volunteer for the service so i took this into consideration wo