so maybe he just speak up a little bit be helpful thank you i would like to clarify two things i would like to start off by referring the court to each twenty four of the government's reply brief i halfway through the first paragraph in discussing it the same line where a city didn't know how to work it seems to me overall he knew exactly how it worked and even to the point of bargaining with the district judge about how he could posture of self district court never explained to him what consequences if any he faced by waving to or are deciding to trying to go back to just tell us that look let me ask you a question if i may put aside the notion of or not it was a necessary condition of probation or whether or not it's even a good one why is it unconstitutional because have frequently held restrictions on the people with whom to convict the defendant can associate and this is reasonably related have any part record right yes your honor so the only time he got into trouble so far as the record discloses is when he was with the rainbow group and had his kitchen operating the national stage park right well your honor there's nothing forget the only ok ok look here here's what i'm trying to get you folks i don't know what the abstract lawyers ok i'm just trying to get you to tell me your own words why he is that this condition was not reasonably related to what happened which was going on within three hundred miles of the stream and getting pretty excited about the who was handling that as a as a certified student prosecutor and judge selma in response to your question regarding the annual gathering it's actually in the national forest not the national park for whatever that while now about thirty years on national forests throughout the country and the government did cite in its free from sorry i didn't find the exact location where it did about a website where mr s is active and communicating with the rainbow family members on that website and so basically he has the communications with them although he was barred from attending any rainbow gathering event he was where mr stubbs was talking about how the rainbow family members make a big to do out of the law enforcement officers being in their church which is a reference to in the national forest wearing guns and there this conduct and it's periodically referred to throughout the transcript where violence occurs where that one law enforcement officer is present and tries to enforce some sort of law enforcement action like an arrest or something and the rainbow members gather in close and they have just huge numbers of surrounding the few law enforcement officers creating a dangerous situation in this incident on page eighty  mr stubbs is talking about how he makes a big to do every time law enforcement officers come near him he starts calling them nazis and and shouting for trauma semen which is too for the rainbow members to gather around and help  do about it i mean the district judge obviously recognized it and did the right thing by saying you know you're entitled to state your position and i'll be me and for you to do it and stubbs basically said i don't want to go back to that magistrate district judge tried to get him to do it he said no i don't want to go back to that magistrate that i don't understand that to be exactly the same as waiving his first lot of dialogue back and forth between the district judge and mr stubbs about whether he would accept the sentence as it was and and by doing that waive any things he would have raised an al that would not have been judicially economical in the sense that it was judge tell us and who was charged with managing this entire gathering and he was the one who was ultimately familiar with all of the details of this thi magistrate judge would have to review the entire trial transcript and and all the materials and then proceed to the sentencing and yes that could happen but there was no reason for judge england to consider that when he wasn't  that i've cited in this brief that says that it's only and in particular circumstances when it's appropriate to reassign it to a different judge than the than the trial judge and the government's position is the defendant has not made the showing that he would be entitled to that even if he had made the argument which he did not  do i also wanted to mention to the court that i think you get a greater flavor for this case by reading the entire trial transcript which is why i've included the entire thing as as the supplemental excerpt of record  mr stubbs testified himself about attending numerous rainbow gatherings where he operated kitchens for example on s c r page r s u r five at page one seventy nine and also doc wilson and charles fic testified regarding the defendant having kitchens and other gatherings so judge callison was well aware of contact that that the defendant had had at other gatherings and it was the defendant fact to put into evidence as exhibits of his numerous reports about contacts he had had with law enforcement agents that the government didn't try to put into evidence and wouldn't have been able to put into evidence s is further evidence that supports the magistrate judges determination that the appropriate penalty was to cause mr stubbs to step back and have some time off from the gathering to think about behaving more appropriately when he's there in the future and by listening to gatherings last year which he did not attend in this year which is you have to come up and i understand maybe in colorado then this gives him a break from it so that he can have time to think about it and then are gathering including but not limited to the end of summer gathering that's true and the my understanding is that the other gatherings consist of planning for the annual gathering that it's the annual gathering is the primary thing similarly to burning man that there are maybe planning meetings throughout the year about where to hold the gathering and that's sort of thing but they don't the main thing is the annual  gathering i don't know that i can point to anything in the record relating to that other than that there was there was i don't know i don't know i just don't know of anything in the records it's just i  then they negotiated about it gathering so he could likely return to a national forest land and engage in the same kind the restriction is overbroad as well because here like i said earlier mr stubbs can have ten rainbow gatherings that occur outside of