so third paragraph down says is not something that the township would not require the developer to do i believe that second option will be there i would agree the document have been a resident of peter starship for fifty six years i peered before you are september twenty seventh twenty ten but the code violations that were and still are occurring on my next door neighbor's property that they are dykes at four o nine days road which includes illegal structures quotes of the torch abandoned cars boats and pounds of junk in the yard unfortunately i do not hear most of the statements that were made during my last appearance before council i did harper watch the meeting on t v and want to clear up some of the statements that were made my daughter marina maureen is here to help me with my hearing problems i can provide documentation violations i attempted to go through the proper channels to have the problems rectified after many unsuccessful attempts over the course of approximately twenty months to get close to suit even to inspect the politicians i mentioned to him that i was thinking of securing legal counsel he said he felt threatened i fell into my data i try to elicit mr sylvestris help in a letter of january fifth to nine and mentioned that mr zucker felt threatened regarding my choice to secure pictures which i'd given planning at the different dates as i took them and i said quote i do appreciate you bringing mr zucker to look at these violations you had him here unless a twenty four hours after receiving my letter and photographs during a part first visit with my attorney on june of two and i i provided him with two plot plants are lots number six and number five that show the correct boundary line between the washington and allegheny that was done by engineering survey company there was a court case of june thirteenth two zero six against the van dyke's by mr super peters based upon charges of junk abandoned car were made against them and they were required to remove over twenty abandoned cars from their property while these cars were being removed mr zucker do not address the junk in a court case or a civil engineer however my educational background includes mechanical and civil engineering courses and a business law course taken at the university of pittsburgh i noted that in my first letter to mr sylvester date dated june twenty six aerial photographs from the worst tax revenue department which is used for tax collection second a boundary line must always show the areas that separates and the names of the areas west be always clearly printed on each side of the boundary line because this is a part of the boundary line third the aerial dated two zero zero three and includes a car boat and trailer which were owned by our new neighbors that for thirteen these people didn't even live there until two hundred seven the neighbors who lived on a lot before them had it never had a red car or a bo car red car with a trailer or a boat onto his property he knew in peter's sonship he was not familiar with our new baby his coat and seeing his neighbors a van dyke show he thought it would be ok to put his red car eighbors who lived on what number what before them didn't have a red car above also quansah which was on the property what number four in two and three is absent from mr superior my brother and i built houses with the of band in cars it's obvious that mr errors are incorrect in a court case of august tenth just one month before my appearance before council i presented the above items  map presented with the incorrect boundary lines that there are six us at the planning department created that incorrect beaudry line because they wouldn't have they would have to deal with these objects in the structures if they were located up or say clear five months before the inspection as can be seeing the term significant improvements used by mr sylvester it is not good group with the actual conditions of the progress the developers of fairacres plan behind our propert obtaining copies of section ninety three point eight mister feud mr suppressed is responded in a letter dated ten twenty ten quote i have searched  hot causing an explosion and new stars caught on far it would be a potentially dangerous situation for which the planning department could possibly held liable because they knew of the this issue and yet choose not to address it changed next i want to discuss the following statement from my peers before council mr ball to mr paul at the council meeting mr ball question was there any reason why the old cars keep reappearing the property has been cleaned up and the cars reappear he said that is contempt the reason are  starship do know what it does not enforce the codes and also the cars are moved to other locations in peter's or upper st clair some of the van dyke's abandoned cars are parked in their daughter's driveway which is located regard to the abandoned cars and the junk on the property without regard to the fact that it's that that we believe that it's an opera st clair and in fact there were numerous vehicles that we do believe were  inappropriate and then in addition to that it is not the case that this is there's only been one one instance in which we've been in front of the magistrate this is occurred on a number of occasions and so you know i  believe that from the township standpoint with that we have been active in trying to resolve this one of the things that made it very difficult at this point is that mrs van dyke realizing what the situation is has pretty prohibited us from entering her property so it is as though we could go look at the quantity hot because we're not permitted on that property by the property owner and so this this gets to be more difficult  than it was regardless of whether the boat is in up or saying clay or peters it doesn't matter because in the case of peter's township we're creational vehicles are permitted to to be on a piece of to that that the boundary line that mr zucker is presenting is the boundary line that shows on our geographic information system and the thing we know from the geographic information system is that if in fact one of her sites locate where something  that it's not a substitute for having a survey done so if in fact someone wanted to locate the exact location of the upper saying player peters township border you would have to employ the services of a surveyor now i can tell palin even though the remainder of the property is in another or another county gets taxed in the in the location where the house of the house right what about his statement that we have houses resumes like this is all kind of treated can you actually see all the stuff from your property oh yes and have you had any conversation with mr pearl harbor anyone from st clair your lady to this what d zucker is trying to act in spite of upper st clair not being interested in cooperating i mean i understood that was your explanation that you had approached them and they decided they would keep hands off so you did you try to forge ahead and do something so great what was the last comment you made about the new plane and you're saying that there is someone else now who's claiming their property was really believe that what the recommendation is that you know that the township thinks that we done as much as we can and that if what we have and means to the satisfaction of the property owner that perhaps what ought to be pursued is a private action and that way the property owner can go to court and get a remedy in that fashion design not sure at this point between these two one question given their discussion about traffic impact piece last meeting because this isn't a direct route accessing towards the orchard hill in the rest of the development is there any potential for using impac fees related to this i don't think this project is in is eligible for impact b c it's not in the study i just wonder because of the group in charge of the road which is problematic because applied in the capital program program and will be part of the budget discussions we have a small boy here and we talked about the fact that the improvement would improve the traffic through that area because of the way the road itself jokes through th no more money the township receives money each year to help offset the cost of going to school pensions a receipt of only three hundred twenty five thousand dollars and this resolution provides for distribution of those funds in the area and the both of them will be at this contract when they bid specifically for peters whole bunch it is about it is the largest solid waste contract in the state of you're talking there's only two players and there's really only two players in the big that doesn't make much sense but just and you may get a third with the third firm that might be this is vogel from the north hills but they did not the last time and i would be surprised that they we save money going to go yes and what you do also is that i can see equally as important as everybody pays for their garbage service and maybe we should be concerned whether or not the company gets them but we have people who choose not to pay the bill the only recourse that the hauler has a lot of times is to discontinue service and for many residents that's what they would prefer anyhow stand yes the storm greater than the five hundred year storm that i've been presented and that it needs to stand a probable maximum floor with thirty inch storm thirty inches of rain and  over for a trail now that we're doing this dam reconstruction but inaccurate but in the perspective of peter's part i think it's an asset for next send maybe and more so the capital planning options might be but still think we need to hear some of our legislators involved in those and go back to them and ask if you know what they're smoking i mean it's just crazy but i think the first step is for mark to be a have a chance to sit down and understand what the implications are and what the cost or associated with it so that if we have that discussion we had that other piece of information here and the other aspect of this that is of great concern to us is that we already have a difficult time getting insurance quotes because of this classification as being a high hazard dam which has nothing to do with the state of the dam but rather simply classification when you add to it that it's a deficient high hazard am and we're going to have a heck of a time being able to ensure that i believe so we need to address this whether it's by getting b p to reconsider it or coming up with a solution implementing it but i guess and i think the letter is just recently come in and i really opportunity for savings by by refunding the two thousand and ten bond issue in those savings if it were to be done now work would  result in a savings of about four hundred fourteen thousand dollars there may be reason to wait to do that and that's a discussion we like to have of mr mccain down the road but the threshold question we want to ask counsel is  for permission to retain mr mckay as our financial advisor going forward for the purposes of examining the refinancing of this issue he has offered to do this at a rate is actually below the rate that was charged by our prior financial advisor and actually below the rate that he had just previously because it's a refinancing it it makes sense to have someone working on our behalf looking at the situation as interest rates may change so that we can act quickly to capture whatever savings may be there the the problem just understand the problem with p c view is that first of all you have a ministry of body acting as in a legislative and judicial capacity which is is itself a constitutional violation which is one of the things that we feel but what it does use it puts it which the p c in the position of saying ok you know we're reviewing ordinance we find it a fusion you have to go back and fix it and review it and by the way now you have to pay your fees and the fees of the attorneys and i mean it's an absolute no win situation for the townships and  you know it it further makes no sense whatsoever because it is exactly this type of activity that was it was stated by the court to begin with so was in the pits for yeah the problem the problem of the attendance is that it's a small court room and we are at the moment there's two forth on the docket and there are many many many people from well as anybody from council here at the same time what michael's proposing is that we set up individual times for people to meet with him so you know i'm i'm kind of that's the next three days this week right ye