headquarters of the ninth circuit court of appeals and mr chester is appearing by video conference from the predator or correctional facility in victor bill and the u you somebody affirm that the statements you are about to make in this case now before this court will be there to the whole truth and nothing but the truth and this you do hear the pains and penalties of perjury all right medication well are you able to hear me and to respond freely yes good in response to your request to represent yourself in this appeal the court has authorized me to conduct this hearing to make sure that you understand the dangers and disadvantages of succor precipitation on the appeal and to make sure that your request to represent yourself this knowing intelligent and unequivocal you understand that you have the right to cancel in this appeal if you cannot afford to retain cancel you are entitled to have counsel represent you at government expense the court also has discretion to allow you to represent yourself if your request is knowing intelligent and unequivocal and not intended to delay the proceedings in determining whether the corps well exercise its discretion to allow you to represent yourself the court will first inform you of the dangerous and this events or suffer a presentation on appeal second inquiry whether the issues of appeal are so complex not however allow the appointment or of advisory or standby councils are not going to allow you to represent yourself and simultaneously have counsel appointed to assist you you understand that an opportunity to look at your brief in this case and i have considered the posture of the case including the nature of the issue is the  amount of sets that are remaining before you are released today so my inclination at this stage is to grant a request to represent himself and that this case go forward or at least to recommend to a panel of judges that they grant your request to represent yourself so i just want to let you know that that's my that's my sense but before i can do that i need to go through with you my description of the dangers and disadvantages of suffer a percentage to make absolutely certain that you are waving your right to counsel with full knowledge of what that needs in this context so i'm going to go through all of colloquy now my description of the dangers and disadvantages and i want you to listen to that and i invite sure i don't mean to insult your intelligence either i know much of this you probably already know i just want to make a record that you've received this information to follow so to begin is different from a trial the proceedings occur mainly through written submissions the briefs those briefs have to comply with specific court rules and if you represent yourself  be expected to comply with those rules and your appeal could be dismissed if you do not comply you understand that yes and just as an aside and look at your brief i don't see any problem with  complying with any of those court rules i just mentioned so i don't think that this will be a particular problem ok next an appeal you have to obtain and review the transcript of from proceedings that identify the potential legal errors so identifying the appropriate issues requires legal knowledge and sophisticated analytic ability if you fail to identify a legal issue you may be barred from raising that issue again you understand th you will also be required to support any assertion of error with legal authority that means you have to be able to research and understand the provisions of the constitution federal statutes in it and rules and the cases from the relevant courses discuss the area of the law this requires no area without research techniques you understand that yes there are also determinations that come into play and in the appeal for example you might be identified a large number of issues but a good strategy would be really  how you portray the facts how you apply the legal analysis to that all of that involves sort of  it's difficult sometimes to completely and fully understand the nature of the legal issues why the analysis and legal wishes but even if you come up with a new understanding in your own  communicating there the standing persuasively writing to judges who have a limited at that time to read and study the briefs is very challenging to the lawyers who have been selected  trying to accomplish the same but without all that training experience you understand that risk then you are yes all right there also are additional difficulties you will no doubt encounter representing yourself your access to legal materials mean obviously extensive and free as a lawyer would have you may or may not have assistance in the facility and if you happen to be working with another inmate there's no guarantee that you will continue to have an assistance and it will also be more difficult for you to communicate with the court by telephone or i would rather manners than it would be for a warrior so that's kind of a handicap when you  yet in addition to the written submissions the court allows oral arguments typically are ten to twenty minutes per side in some cases the oral argument is an opportunity for the parties to ensure that the judges understand the arguments it's also and the opportunity for the judges to ask specific directed questions about the growth of this position of the appeal where a criminal offense is represented by granted lead to represent yourself if you have any questions about anything that i've said all right do you understand in your mind the dangers and disadvantages of some representation