honor i'm not exactly certain where the scar is on his head ok i know that he did make reference to it but i'm not exactly certain and i think that you are correct in asserting that he did not demonstrated in that manner besides being beaten over the head and he was also in this first incident forced to sign a statement stating that he would no longer i partake in political activities and was barred from taking the college entrance exams for three years after graduating from high school and that's the first incident the second time that mr song attempted to be heard he was again arrested jailed this time chained to a bench for is that mr song also comes from a family of political dissidents his father was condemned by the chinese government for speaking out against communism as well as his brother who was one of the founders of the chinese democratic party and he was imprisoned for were taken from him by the coworkers and when he right here in the united states he was questioned by the immigration and naturalization service on and there are only two interviews on record and pertain where the officers make their similar statements saying you are i need to remind you you're under oath you're telling me different story than last time and you need to tell me the true story now that was the statement that it appears that immigration officials based on this one statement even though the immigration officials later found that he met the low threshold of credibility so that he can go to that removal hearing ok now you know what is enough time for your co counsel i think we'd better let you sit down at this is the heart of mr sanders claim and what is the basis of his fear persecution mr sung is a strong believer in democracy and on two separate occasions he was arrested detained interrogated beaten committed by chinese government officials amounts to persecution and on account of his political opinion what do we do there to absorb one thousand nine hundred eighty nine crash when he's demonstrating in front of the town hall on along with a lot of other students and picked up and the second one is nine hundred ninety nine according to his testimony he and another person put up posters kind of on the anniversary of tiananmen square and they do it in the night and so far as is aware he's not observed he's  up by the police a couple days later and i find it hard to be sure that there's a connection between the two and he infers from the sequence that there is but even according to his own testimony they don't say we're picking you up because we saw you posters and he doesn't want to volunteer and in case they don't know so what am i supposed to do it that second nine hundred ninety nine episode  reasonable it's reasonable to believe that based on his actions i'm the first time that's engaging in a political activity since the last time he was detained and within have got before and before we have you sit down at least of a moment i've got one question i'm bothered me and i'm not quite sure what to do about it that was of course you know he appeared at his hearing without counsel he anymore what am i supposed to do with that mr song because we don't know exactly what occurred between attorney and mr song and it was correct in correct for him to do so on record and  but that's the first basis for the incredibility finding myself i just throw it aside and then the second one the second basis is well how did he know reasonable requesting corroboration you know i got a different reason that i'm worried about these airport interviews i don't mean the different in the sense of i don't agree with the other need an additional reason there is something really screwy about these two airport interviews read ok the question is your story has changed i need to know the truth you're giving a different story to the officer and on and on and i want to remind you you're under oath those questions vary a little bit in form but let me read to you the first couple of sets of the there i would think that the petitioner has not alleged that there was anything funny about the interviews with the transcription or anything like that i would think that if this were a case where they were putting down words that he didn't behind these two interviews that make reference to some earlier possible interview you did when you told the officer something different when both of them say you told the officer something different earlier there's no we don't know what that references do but both interviews referenced some we will be happy to have you it back for further proceedings to further develop the record for determination of credibility or you might be asking us to set aside the adverse credibility finding assume the story is