paragraph above the motion under the sugar camp range l s a resolution just to clarify the statement i was asking whether the impact fees could be used for the sugar camp for h so if you could insert is there any potential for use of impact fees related to this that will clarify it to someone who's reading get there's a term there it says return and i'm that didn't make a bit of sense to me and i wasn't sure if i took it out of context i believe it was mr johnson statement if the quarterly review points in your docket to read and i'll just highlight some of the issues because we have other things to address tonight and june the parks and recreation board decided on a new numbering system for the athletic fields and peters with par drastically that will include fields that were not previously numbered and additionally the new field in the park expansion the tat the intent was to make the numbering more consistent and to be able to  more appropriately in two thousand and thirteen we will install directional signs at the entrances of each drive through the park the field five improvements have been completed during installation of the turf the wrong type of  gravel material was installed and was subsequently removed and stockpiled near field and if you go through the park you'll notice that they are the extra material was not an extra expense for the township and will be removed from that location i guess the soon as they get to it during the planning of the heart true tennis court renovation projects the tennis association indicated that if the township chose to install the underground irrigation system they would contribute fifty thousand dollars to the cost of the project their project went out to be aid for both above ground and underground irrigation and in the end the project with the underground irrigation system was awarded to horizon and the tennis association will contribute the fifty thousand dollars milicic men parks and rec chairperson community service rep has made several attempts at contacting school district representatives to try and work together on creating a community service group for projects in the township no success with the meeting at this time the parking reg the location of the fitness trail suggested by me as a park improvement it was decided along the trail connector beginning outside of the recreation center would be the best location the equipment has been selected and ordered installation will take place through the winter and spring months and the issue regarding the use of metal spikes on the turf field was discussed and will be discussed again once a recommendation is presented by the the background check system was discussed at length by the park and rec board a new system has been implemented the system is more comprehensive is easier because it is a one step online with a credit card the results are faster and go directly to the park and rec director the system is currently up and running and so far is successful the basketball association is working with the school district on an outdoor basketball court renovation project documentation required for the he at from the wrestling association and the board members had changed and we were trying to find out who the new board members were and make contact with them and ask them to attend our meeting they did attend october meeting well the first thing was the conversion of fields three and four since we started the planning of the park expansion the purpose and the use of fields three and four had been discussed the intention by the committee that made these plans was to convert it to a multipurpose field since that time we have had some changes in the township including the use of some of the school district facility fields for our baseball association and used to call proof right now correct so there used to be two fields at this location were actually two for playing fields in a practice and field but we didn't number the practice and field so the intention like i said was to convert the baseball season came to us with some concerns and wanted to ask if we would keep one of those diamonds in the field and so after a discussion with the parks and recreation board the board made a recommendation that we do the conversion of the field but in in doing so leave this feel this time and there so that in between the football and the lacrosse seasons the baseball association could use it for their tournament would be removed during the football and lacrosse season that would have to be but we've talked about this as far as the administration is concerned the parks and recreation board made that recommendation that we move forward with this some major issues with the erosion and the hillside so that that field really needs to be taken out it is not it is not a good situation there it would be very costly to repair and make that i guess my question is have people been coming to you and not being able to get time is that why you're going to propose putting another field development redevelopment in the budget for next year no actually this is been playing since the park expansion project this field itself because we've had issues with the softball fields we just redirected the way that we were going to convert it because of the fact that when the school district did their project up at v we lost our baseball association we lost the use of one of those baseball fields at that location so now baseball is scrambling to try and find space and this was one of the things that we could find to help them find their use space as opposed to the people feel and i realized that it was in one of the comprehensive plan some trying to ask you what the urgency is is it something that is necessary for next year or are you going to be talking about that when you come in from the budgeting process what kind of problems are created because that doesn't exist right now well i think that the only problem that exists is the fact that right now it has primarily a baseball use and it was intended to be once we did the conversion for football on the cross and they do want to use the space and all the associations they come to our parks and recreation board meeting and all of those associations were willing to work together so right now it's because of the way it's structured there are some constraints i mean honestly minor constraints if we if we do as the initial drawing was just primarily leaving it the way it was there might be some minor grading and things but the cost of the regime is going to be drastically lower if we do that conversion but it's going to accommodate a lot more people so we were just trying to figure out what would benefit as many people as possible reveal who's going to be using the well it's the number three field is actually in the recreation center field we just actually assigned a number to it finally but the softball association has been using was the flagpole policy we've had issues with flag poles being used in the park but the regulations for use of flag poles haven't been followed so the parks and recreation board made a recommendation that did you have them with it for you i mean it's very basic it's just limiting the use of the flags but this would have the parks and recreation department installing two flag poles in the park actually taking over the one that's at the baseball fields and then installing one of the upper part of the park so that all the fields had a central location to aim at for their their flag use and then the park parks and recreation department would then be responsible for maintaining and following code therefore we would make sure that everything was being done correctly as opposed to expecting the sports association to do it  be they will be eliminated they will be our weather you know will follow you know if there's something that we have to raise and lower them for we will show that to me six science accepted why was one of them one to raise this issue because they weren't being the right legal by protocol once and being observed but the summary in the handout didn't say that so do i understand that you're going to then have a flag on every flagpole because there was a statement that said it's up to the association to determine whether or not they were going to fly a flag for them recently that was actually just part of the conversation held by the parks and recreation board if they had their own flag poles that would be their responsibility the final determination was the policy draft that we had sent out to you that does have us maintaining the flag poles and the flags michael thank you two for two which would ordinance revisions in the ordinance we don't have anything to mandate people to follow the new turf field rules so the parks and recreation board recommended that we add language to our park ordinance rules or the park rules ordinance that states all posted rules must be followed as opposed to trying to implement all of the rules into the ordinance and then also they recommend that we remove  the firearms preventing firearms because we're not permitted to do that so we would remove that and then subsequently remove them from the s parks and recreation board felt that there was justification for a different feel to be charged for the use of that field along with the fact that there were some some groups on the fees that weren't included in that were being charged  that we felt it should be assessed a fee for the parks and recreation board took a look at our current fee schedule and made a proposal for a new fee schedule for the use of the athletic fields in the parks and in the tables in front of th equally increased that one group wasn't being penalize more than another and this was just broken down by resident nonresident the top half our resident rates the bottom half would be non resident rates and  towards for baseball like our youth baseball association won't pay for the use of the fields they don't fall under these categories they still use the fields at no fee along with the school district  teams and organizations and that's things that weren't addressed in our in our previous fee schedule and this would go to name with a grove or handle that if someone wanted to rent a field with a grow like a birthday party or reunions we get a lot of those and anybody with less than sixty percent residence would be considered not residen you know why they share that because what they have to do is they have to show each one of them have to show the same opus rate and had to conclude that inder bill so that the the the the rates will pretty much be the same they use the same average the real the real difference is the fixed margin  draft resolution that would go out to all these communities go away to see what's out there probably have to come back but that will come back to council at a future meeting can ask a question about the correspondence you talked about the carol union touchup comprehensive plan right and then it went to plan where there be any benefit to make that available for residents to live along the border they wanted to review it the more detail if i could make one comment in the fire report they didn't talk about preparing for the open house but i would just like to compliment the chief and all the firemen in the open house this past saturday was absolutely fabulous very well attended a lot of activities for the kids i thought i was really really nice so i just wanted to say that for the people who participated seemed like it was a very well