thousand and thirteen hope everyone's had a great summer we're going to be here live for the next sixty minutes talking about the you will summer pastime here in this area following those are red hot boston red sox will be doing that over the next sixty minutes taking your phone calls here on august the twenty second our phone number if you are watching us tonight give us a call six one seven four eight four two four four three get that number six one seven four eight four two four four three don't forget you can follow us on facebook and also you can see the hash tag was to their t o summer normally sitting in the co pilot's the cheer to my immediate left is how you mccloughan but like anybody who's been trying to beat the heat so he is off on vacation i'm sorry to say especially as hard as the red sox have been but we're very pleased to be joined in studio by about you know how you guys got involved with it i joined the bo sox club when i returned to new york returned to boston from new york and i was in new york for fifteen years came back to boston been a lifelong red sox fan i expect to ask the why are you  new york for what happened there to come on turn i think a sentence it was a sentence fifteen years but i grew out of it i got probation and came back to boston i actually did graduate work in new york city and worked in new york for a period of time so i came back to boston and as a lifelong red sox fan i found out about the both sox club and i joined right away and those days you had to be sponsored to join you had to find two members who would write letters of recommendation for you and it was sort of a semi exclusive thing in those days and it was just fabulous we used to have a monthly luncheons at pier four in boston and we always said great cooperation from the red sox would have red sox coaches managers executives and always players represented so that tradition  continued the club started back in one nine hundred sixty seven in the dark days of the red sox before the sixty seven season but he had their certainly very serendipitous timing there iowa yeah it was it's just incredible you couldn't be better sixty seven of course was been this great renaissance of red sox fandom you know the impossible and the possible dream of that year and we just celebrated the fiftieth anniversary of the club but any case i've been a member since then and then on the i joined the board about nine ten years ago was on the board for eight years i  my full term of eight years and then i stepped down chuck and i met each other on the board has been on the board for several years now we've developed a close relationship a close friendship because of our i love the boston red sox we go to a number of games together i said some to a good friend of mine and he says they do nothing about the most ice club and he said i don't know a thing myself he says but i think i work with a guy i'll see what i can find out he came back to me a couple days later and said jeff this guy is a fact he's a present the bow sox cup and he says he'll get you a membership card and paul is right you had to get sponsored in you know to get somebody to sponsor you into the club and he said to take care of that and so those about thirty three years ago for me so i do get recommended like is it just someone says you're a really good red sox fan and they have to  list all the the ways in which you you're you know a big fan of the team or in my day i was invited to attend a lunch at pier four and you're taken around and as a guest you're introduced to other members and they sort of give you the imprimatur and say you have is a good guy let's sponsor him and that's all it was all about yeah it's no longer requirement has been a requirement for many many years i think what it really stadol back in those days when they called for a stat it was really most business organization to help support the red sox and so they're looking for other business type of people that had a business background but that's kind of gone away that requirement so anybody is eligible to join because you mentioned like in sixty seven and of course you know the years leading up to the impossible dream season yo and the two of them really generated impetus for the stop establishment of the club and it went on from there and in the peak days we'd have eight hundred nine hundred people members and you'd have three fifty four hundred four hundred  fifty people for lunch at pier four and so it became very successful very quickly and it's continued its momentum to the present day how many members are there now proximately is about five hundred ok you know the biggest challenge we one of the biggest challenges we have it's we have a luncheon every month starting april through november is the fact that when sions are from eleven thirty to one thirty so it either requires somebody who has a very flexible schedule with the work o self employed or it's difficult for many people to get to the luncheons so so it kind of seems to have you know has a way of keeping the numbers down a little bit but we have between one hundred fifty to two hundred people that show a herbie luncheon we had chuck organized in may and we have our annual july luncheon at fenway park which is always sold out and always had like in the e m c club area or state street the bill yeah it would have to thirty to fifty and that you always get red sox participation heavy red sox participation at those luncheons you know the luncheon we had in the hotel kamel paul mentioned betts came and he took pictures of anybody that was there that that was most people were very very happy about that some people wanted out of gra and able to give autographs but he was very accommodating must've been hard for him to get out of there because i'm sure everybody wanted to get a photo taken with about the day with everybody till he was very cooperative and said a few words to everybody and he was very he was in a very good disposition and he felt happy to be there i think you know well you get he's been a special guys have been a great year for the red sox and you know one of the you know one of the things in there there's a picture of muki right there are certainly having a great year we'll get to the currency minute but i just want to talk a little bit more about the bo sox club itself and you know just the name itself chucky kind of reference you know both sox both sox you know this is the this is actually my it's kind of an anniversary for me this year because forty years ago this summer i sort of became a red sox fan after that i was only bloomer i was when i was when i first started really following the red sox avidly and of course the one year the year i started following was the suburbs seventy eight not one of the most memorable ones or well was memorable for all the wrong reasons but and you have to admit i mean even you know you know after the playoff game and they lost and i cried and i confess to that and i think part of it was i i think there is a part of me the thought you know that i'm going to come back and playing right now you know it's like i didn't realize that there was another season and they did have another chance to to rebound but the whole thing about the both sox and i was talking to talking to our director julie land before the show because i remember this in seventy eight hearing the word bostock's or hearing chai sachs was very common that it was a very but i just don't hear it used that much as a nickname anymore and it's kind of i don't know you think it's just the generations just didn't really catch on with some of the younger folks or some i don't know maybe we live in a more formal era i don't know but i hear both sox around but i think what happens is that and the reason that i joined and continue is that you know we live in an alienated times in many ways were a very divided society and when you can go into a community such as what the bostock's club provides and you have people who have common interests it sort of alleviates the pressures and the tensions of everyday life and the red sox are a great distraction absolutely and they're great entertainment particularly when they're winning it puts everybody in an upbeat mood and at the luncheon yesterday i was sitting at a table with a nun with two retired people a retired policeman a retired fireman with a retired school teacher somebody who had worked for the  massachusetts and everybody had the interest of the red sox so it brought about great conversation it was very stimulating and we all felt great about being there and now to this none to happy to know that not in chicago white sox you got to throw out the first pitch before had tommy john surgery that put him out for two years and he went to japan and played in japan for at least a year and he didn't do very well over there and he came back to this country and and his agent said of calling around baseball teams  over this past winter trying to get him to try out and only only six teams out of the thirty where you know willing to take a look at them and it turned out that he signed with the red sox why i think the red sox are the only ones who like call them back from what i what they called them back it was throwing ninety eight and they said we can we have a position for you if you can throw ninety eight and then they worked its way through the system and he's been he's been pitching with greater greater leverage as the seasons been going on he's coming in on the eighth inning now yeah well i mean that's been one of the you know if there aren't a lot of issues with a team that's you know fifty games over five hundred has that the best record in major league baseball but if there are some i guess it would be with the bullpen bullpen and trying to figure out maybe you know that the bridge as they call it now to you know those middle of those set up men to get too close are great kimbrel and you know braziers certainly kind of working his way into the mix someone who was probably not even considered when the season started but now as we get closer to october i mean he may end up becoming an instrumental part you know of the late inning bullpen i wouldn't surprise me if he comes in with a move the end of august because you have to have a relief pitcher any player on the on the forty man roster by august thirty first in order to qualify for the playoffs and i think he felt that the price was too high earlier in august and we'll see how things go forward it wouldn't surprise me if he comes in and strengthens the bullpen as we go forward you know but you know one of the one of the factors afford to browse ski i mean you know once you get past july thirty first all these players have to clear waivers and the red sox with the best record in baseball is going to kind of difficult for them to you know be able to you know try to make a deal with anyone because you know obviously everyone gets thrown out in this trade where you don't think pleased how it went and we don't do that often but we do that now with them and you should get a chance to work the lobster rolls into the luncheon one thing i did want to back up on a little bit just to give a different perspective on the club also as you noted earlier the with a background bush in the ticket sales but as sixty seven got into the seventy seven and eighty seven the red sox ticket sales are pretty strong the club has converted over to a certain extent more as a charity we raise money for the jimmy fund red sox foundation we've raised over the past thirty years as when we converted we raised over five hundred thousand dollars we do contributions we send kids to summer camps for baseball softball we've given scholarships to  colleges for athletes and we just presented a check a last week for thirty five thousand dollars for red sox foundation and fenway park so we raise this money through different auctions we raise and raffle so we hold make any kind of donation to part of that we have in the past i'm not sure what the plans are for this year but the telethon is going to raise about fifteen million dollars the share it's extraordinary i don't marry tradition you know we have the only town are the only town that does this that's what's amazing about it in the store there are two full days every year usually around this time of year and it's just a mate like every year i don't think they can top themselves in terms of how much they can raise and yet you know people are just well i mean you know obviously cancer affects all of us one way or another and we all know somebody who's probably had to deal with it just so yeah i mean it's just you know in the course the jimmy fund itself you know again another wonderful organization that has been going for you know well little bit longer than the both sox club but the red sox have this great concept of working with the both sox club and providing players and so forth and one of the things you do as a member and one of things with the opportunities we have as a member we get preserved we get reserve seats at the spring training games and the tickets that we have available come before the public gets them so if anybody is interested in going to spring training in march to see a red sox game you get preferred seating if you're a member of the we also have ok so i just saw you just to kind of clarify a membership doesn't automatically give no no no no get first you get first chandra as at seeding and and you get sort of discounted tickets as well and then we also have a family day in july and which members have the opportunity to bring two two kids to the games with them on a complimentary basis no charge for the tickets at all and they get the kids get free hotdogs and other and other pleasures of attending a red sox game so we give that to each member of a member of the both sox web as well then the kids get to run like the bases and they do a lot of things so it's great it's a wonderful organization and as i said they have this connection that distresses us and that gives us a pleasant conversation once a month is a great pleasure and i highly recommend it for those of you who have not been to a bostock squad luncheon i highly recommend it and you can contact the both sox organization  have to sneak out for ya our take an extra long lunch they won't miss me that's right so we're just on most of our lunch and to hell right down here in dedham ok at the hilton so it's not too far away you know well there are a lot of nice new hotels going up right around fenway i mean like you mentioned you mention the hotel commonwealth which i know that that's not a new one but but yeah i mean if you guys had them in other places some of these other nord outlawing other venues and the hotel commonwealth was a new adventure on our part and it went well and we'll see if we do it again next year well the challenge we have at the same time is when you get closer to the city or in the city you have problems with parking for people in the expenses of parking fees  years ago was fifty dollars so after thirty something years we've only gone up to it from up another forty nine dollars and so it's a well it's for people like baseball particular the red sox i think it's well worth checking  obvious one shocked like most memorable guest or just who you were most impressed with at one of the bow sox club luncheons meet you know it may have been someone you anticipated with that you were looking forward to meeting or maybe someone that after you heard them speak or whatever you got a chance to talk to him at a lunch and wasn't easy to get the boston and so i didn't get the family park very often until my wife and i moved to the boston area back in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven so now we have been living and reading for fifty something years in previously that we lived in framingham and bill records so you know it sounds like me living growing up in western mass id go to my first red sox game at fenway till i was like e t soon yeah it was tough what about you paul like you're like most men yes i would i would say we've had several good very good guess rico petrocelli as one of them but most recently we had a luncheon program last year jerry remy and remy had not been to a bo sox club function over twenty years and of course we're all familiar with his struggles with with cancer and what he's going through and he was just terrific he was upbeat he was remarkably candid on the red sox he speaks as a fan growing up in somerset the older ballplayers that we have come back bob stanley has been very good in the past some of the we had about twenty twenty one years ago and he was terrific and we had recently had  guy yeah but you know i'm thinking of well yeah and some of these guys you know we just at the thirtieth anniversary of the eighty six team that won the pennant back then you know every historic red sox team it was an anniversary of a of an american league pennant winning team and you know certainly it wasn't until two thousand and four that we got through to finally say you know world championship team because you know you know taught you regardless of their names and some of the names the younger names like we talked about ryan brazier it's just great to hear them speak about their own personal life story and what motivated them to get into baseball and the challenges that they faced and surmounted and they come across as clean cut all american kids and it's wonderful to hear their story and get to know them as people behind the uniform and i think that's one of the great things of the bo sox club does the the access that you have to the players and their personal stories whether it is in spring training what we have a barbecue with the players we have picnics with the players you have access to the both sox well but you wouldn't if you were just sitting in section fifteen which i like to do is in the grandstand getting a second shot as far as meeting people i just thought of it last year in august we had it was a fiftieth anniversary it was probably thirty you know it's close to that twenty five thirty three story other thing i want to mention quickly before i forget is that we're talking about the sixty seven the fiftieth anniversary at a board meeting yesterday before a luncheon we were talking about  next year is going to be the fifteenth anniversary of the two thousand and fourteen so we're talking about putting some programs on four members on the two thousand and fourteen when obviously there's many many of those members who are in good enough health and yet can attend and many of them who live in the boston area so we're working at trying to have at least one member from every from the two thousand and four attending every one of our luncheons next year yeah i mean i would be great i mean certainly i would be well attended to you know that that captured the imagination of of you know all current and past many generations of you know red sox fans going back you know it's great you know you touched on the mean i guess you know growing up in you know seeing that team you know what you talk about just the contrast from like the the years that led up to the seasons that led up to sixty seven then all of a sudden that team you know they were so it was such an unexpected run i mean they bring in whatever key manager dick williams and there's a lot of there's some good young players but you know and then you also have like yasmin's prime but you know i mean just talk about like her you know how it just captured the imagination of like all of new england really i mean this i think after for enjoy george scott and the last month six weeks of the season that the jelled and they started winning and they started feeling good about themselves they still club i think finished next to last and so going into sixty seven  expectations were not very high and the club took off and dick williams his famous quote during spring training i think will win more than we lose which have been a tremendous breakthrough because the sox have had six or seven major losing seasons yeah i mean just saying that was a bold statement was bold statement right you know they hadn't done that in a while all right well the thing about the sox is they always said twenty five players twenty five cabs they were in a unified club and sixty seven the club came together and dick was like a  dick williams was like a drill sergeant i think he kep the reigns on everybody it was a young club the average age was like twenty to twenty three years old and i think what really provided impetus for the season was the west coast trip which they won ten games on the road and they came back in first place this was in july and they were met by thousands and thousands of fans at airport and they couldn't believe it and that just provided the catalyst for going forward at that point it was just an extraordinary season and it was a comeback season two they would come back and behind every game no matter how far behind they were they would come back and win the game in the late innings and i think justice captured the heart and soul of new england yeah and i mean i guess you know with dad i mean you want to compare him to like the the two it played out it was just you know and again you know each of these teams or whether it's the sixty seven team or you know maybe to different extents the seventy eight and eighty six teams and then up to the zero four team you know each of those teams just kind of captures a generation and  know it's really you know like you said you know the comebacks and everything and were on where we are on a historic run now to an extraordinary season and i think they're being tested by the cleveland indians now and i think will be tested by the yankees before it's over but that just builds the fiber and character of a team and if you're going to go far into the playoffs you've got to be tested during the season i think the sox are going to be tested with cleveland they've lost three in a row the first time they've lost three in a row since april and i only just time the year that that's how it is exactly but i think it's a testing period of time and they don't want to fluff schedule and i'm looking forward to the balance of the season i think it's going to be very challenging and i think they'll be prepped for the playoffs you know well how about that too i mean this year's red sox are fifty games over five hundred they've you know you keep hearing the with each passing when they want to eighty games to this point as we're on the air here on august twenty second i mean back in i think it was back in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight the red sox won eighty eight games all season and won the division i mean you know and i've already won here eighty games with like that they wanted least one hundred games and right now if they play five hundred the rest of the year and they've been playing over seven hundred ball through the first two thirds of the season that way five hundred dollars or less like thirty five games they're guaranteed of winning one hundred six which would be a new franchise record i mean that's just that's what's so mind boggling and you know coming into the season i mean i think people thought the set the potential would be you know a good team and ninety win maybe get close to one hundred wins but i mean this is just been only a wildcard contender and we've gone way beyond that in the forty six club was that it's it's amazing i mean you know when you get you look at this team it's a good team as we you know kind of move up and start talk about the two thousand and eighteen red sox here you don't probably one of the biggest differences are you know because they won a lot of changes made from last year's team which won ninety three games but then  the first round of the you know the division round of the playoffs i mean i guess you have to kind of look at the manager i mean they changed managers they bring in alex cora who course we have a picture there and you know cora really seems i mean he seems to been a large part of the difference this year the team seems to be playing looser happier i mean you know if you keep hearing about the presence of mean have you guys had it she and i mean i don't know through the posts that she gets to meet alex or maybe alex came up when he was a member or when he was playing back in the zero seven world championship team and what  how alex has been at the both sox club he's been at luncheons in the past not as a manager but as a player and he always comes across as knowledgeable and articulate and i think what he's been able to do i mean i like to actually john f and i thought he was a sharp baseball man but he was a pitcher and i'm not sure if he understood the every day player and he also was a different generation i think it was more of a disciplinary and in some ways and i think with cora they're playing relaxed baseball and when you're relaxed you do your best on the field and i think the performance speaks for itself and he seems to develop an individual report with the players that perhaps the previous manager did not have you know i mean obviously he has a very good report with the players as paul said i think that's a big part of it i think they feel like they're all in it together and i think he seems to know that it's a good idea to give the players some rest in between certain winks of games and he does that even if they they don't want to get out he knows you need to get him out get some get some time off i think i think also the benefit to the red sox the fact that there are a number of teams in both leagues but particularly the american league that  teams that are in rebuilding mode i guess is the play this way of saying it teams like minnesota kansas city chicago detroit all these teams records baltimore and the red sox have have beaten most of these teams pretty strong competitive teams and you have to beat up on the on the weaker team and then go to head to head against a list of the teams and we've been doing that better than the yankees eating up right second run teams you know well that's the thing i mean it does seem to be a relatively new phenomenon just kind of alluding to your point chuck that you know other teams in the american league i mean i've heard the term tanking or or whatever i guess i mean i've i think i've had this question with other friends of mine and other people and basically everyone keeps saying well right nope repercussions for having a bad year like totally bottoming out and just like you know selling off all your high priced talent bringing up the kids even if they're not that good just let him you know kind of endure i mean you know you look at baltimore here baltimore here we are august twenty second it was actually about a week or ten days ago the baltimore orioles were eliminated from the american league east from winning the division right now here on august twenty second i'm looking at the ale the standings baltimore is in last place fifty and a half games out i remember as a kid one year i think like toronto blue jays their second or third year in the major leagues they were forty games out i said oh my that's crazy how can a team be forty games out i mean the orioles are on pace to probably finish about sixty five games out before i mean the season's over and then you know teams like kansas three right now five other teams in the american league with the seventy wins and then in the national league you know the cubs the cardinals and brewers are all and diamondbacks and braves they've all just hit the seventy when mark red sox are closing in on ninety wins i mean it's just you know but but that's kind of the way baseball's been this year just i don't it doesn't make a promise sense but yeah whatever it is not in past years you know there's been some many teams that had some really really poor records going all the way back to the st louis browns before they became the baltimore orioles sixty two met in the mets yeah there's been a number of those hands and there are some repercussions not so much and from a fan basis baltimore's attendances is down again to manage their aspect of they had their down years and they brought along a bunch of young players and now they're reaping the rewards i think other teams are trying the same way that houston did it to try to going through draft choices you know the lower your lower you fall in the standings the higher is your draft true that's the let's be realistic baseball is a lot different than say basketball or football where a good you know you get a top draft pick and you know the very next year you can make an immediate turnaround you think of larry bird you think  look james today you know players of that ilk you know in the n b a you know even in football i mean sometimes you know if you if you got the number one pick each draft that franchise quarterback you know maybe you know there were two they take up in baseball you know typically because of the minor leagues players tend to have to develop although you know in some cases players are developing a lot faster now than that i kind of you know the rebuilding process could be four or five years and not like one year thing you got to be patient but even the astros like you mentioned chuck that they were you know took a three years i mean remember that infamous sports illustrated cover from two thousand and fourteen when they were in last place and they said three years are now world series champs right oh yeah i thought and then yeah then you know that it actually happened i mean probably one of the greatest predictions sports illustrated ever made three years at advance well i think it's i think that's certainly an issue with the players association as well it was these clubs are reaping tremendous rewards through television contracts local and national multibillion dollar contracts and they are pocketing the money the right anybody says a profit sharing to anybody  right there pocketing the money so i think this is going to be an issue with the players association if you're giving the money you have to spend a certain amount players and i'm not sure it's being done right now in some of these yeah i mean i think i've talked about this with friends too that you know maybe they need to have like some kind of like i know there's this you know obviously there's tax thresholds of you spend a certain amount i think the most there's currently no m l b salary floor like a minimum that you need to spend and maybe if they had that you'd see these owners kind of you know they'd be forced to have to go out there know let's you know it's a it's been an incredible year i mean you know i don't know where to start exactly although we might as well law you know start with you know i think pitching has been a big part of it and it has been you know and i guess your first you want to start with a guy  he's currently on the disabled list in the red sox are trying to treated with kid gloves but that would be chris sale you know what what a season he's had in his last seven starts i believe of like point two well i mean in this era where you know home runs are just flying out of the ballpark and you know he's just you know when you look at him too i mean he makes you makes pedro martinez look fat i mean when paper was playing his prime he was like a little string bean and you know this and you know that tall pencil right i was going to say yes sales like six six and one hundred  eighty something i mean that's like he was interviewed this morning on part of the jimmy fund telethon and he said listen to the boston fans he said don't worry word he says i'm going to come back stronger than ever i'm not that concerned about it the doctors know what they're doing the trainers know what they're doing and i'm going to be ready so if he says that i have confidence in his judgment i think the big change is in the batting line up and i think designated hitter as been unbelievable yeah i thought they'd be able to approach the pitcher launch angles etc and he's probably the most scientific hitter that has been with the red sox since ted williams and i think the influences is all the way down the line up with him yeah of course that would be one j d martinez you know got a nine point lead in the batting average department but you're but you're right paul i mean you know what she has done first of all yeah i mean you know the way he studies batting i mean you could you know you talk about a ted williams you know a little more moderate about me ramirez kind of a hitting savant just live to do that and then the fact that you know j d martinez studies the game you know the science of hitting so much and then is willing to pass that knowledge along to his teammates and make them better i think that's certainly reaping the benefits know right down the list of guys who have benefited from you know martinez is to religion and it's just yeah he's you know so its presence in the lineup and what he's doing to everybody around the lineup i know there's been kind of a hot debate this year who's the m v p of even the red sox or even just who's going to the american league m v p this year i would give it to martinez because of that impact other folks would say well you know he doesn't play the field as much as mookie betts whose gold glove caliber outfielder and what i think of a five tool god but the best is probably the best player because he's got the all round game you know he can steal a basic and he can save or run from the outfield and so forth great arm but as far as influence on the lineup on the club day night difference from last year it's martinez well yeah  genie back up so yeah i mean i think you're right i mean he's like originally when i kept hearing him say i want to play in the outfield i'm thinking well you've got you've got betts ben intended bradley i love the way they play the outfield the way they cover the outfield and that's something that the red sox couldn't do when david ortiz was there because he was caught walked into that spot you could rotate people around i mean if you look since ortiz retired most team use the d h and actually even in ortiz's later years most american league teams reason the d h to kind of you know just give a guy kind of a half night off and rest players on the red sox couldn't do that that wasn't a bad thing when you had a hall of fame type of of hitter like david ortiz who hopefully is going to get to cooperstown i hope he's going to get there eventually i mean i guess really this is totally going off subject a little bit here but i mean do you think that you know because we talk about cooperstown before and everything do you think what are the odds that the david ortiz it is going to is he's probably is a no brainer he's getting  shortstop at arizona state for his first year and everybody thought he'd be an all american and they brought in put roya and he lost the position that they went on to missouri state to play baseball but both of them of course drafted pajoy it was m v p he was also actually had they've had a non speaking relationship with put it that way they're not very friendly towards each other yeah i think kinzler toys but rory more than the other way around the kids are hits with great power he plays a similar game to  an upbeat player a lot of spirit and i think was a great move to bring him in i think it was to we have a picture of a draw on screen now and of course that expression probably sums up the sort of year it's been for pajoy and the reason that dave dombrowski went out and acquired ian kinsler who i think is going to you know because unfortunately pajoy probably is not going to be back playing this year he got into three games you know coming off the micro fracture knee surgery before he had to go back on the d l and he's been rehabbing and it's just you know unfortunately it's been a last year for  so i guess the whole pajoy kinsler dynamic in the clubhouse hasn't happened because pajoy is out in arizona rehabbing while kinzler is here you know playing at second base but you know compared to some of the other options the red sox had at second base i mean i like brock whole i like noon yes but i kind of like  but again these guys are best used in like doses you don't want to see him out there every day i mean when brock what was an american league all star he was playing every day but those red sox teams were coming in last place you know again i think you know holton noon yes you have those guys on needs you know that first game of the recent four game series with the yankees i mean hit in that big home run that kind of got the that's four game sweep started kind of at the top of the tone here and under the radar player and he's played for most of the american league good defense at first base as well and you know some of the throws coming from shortstop and third they need that first baseman with the glove and we had you know we have a picture of moral in here i mean one of the things with moreland to we you know if you compare his production to most of the first baseman in the american le his record up over the years that's where he usually ends up pretty close to those numbers yeah exactly of course as we make our way around the infield i mean you know one of my favorite red sox players and again you know you talked about you guys what about you know it feels like he's been around forever because he you know they called him up in two thousand and thirteen twenty years old yeah i saw the world series i know amazing yeah and you know again he's been he's been a little in that magic i think some things of looked at him and said you know there's a lot of on tap potentially should be better i mean i still remember that rookie year i yeah i think it was it was either that year of the very following year he had a home run he took it was at the old yankees while very good at the current at the stadium he took like i just kind of a nonchalant swing in the ball went like four hundred forty feet like think i think i think the report that he's been able to develop with cora and vice versa has really paid a dividend i think you need to be nurtured a little bit i think he's playing with greater passion he's driving the ball more he's hitting in the clutch i think he's  right behind mickey betts as far as hitting with the bases loaded with men on base and he's having a terrific year but i think again that's a core influence on him as well yeah he's not a bad shortstop either i think the other plus with bogarts is you know like you mentioned you know maybe a chorus but able to get the best out of him and you know bring us back to core again i think one of the things that i find as a strength with cora is one he's closer to the age of these players so i think there's that relating her factor and i think being bilingual is a players how about you know another kid who's just twenty one years old and he's been up and down this year but rafael devers curly on the d l hopefully comes back soon dealing with some hamstring issues but there's another guy like bogart's i mean last year i will we got to remember what did he do like a week or two after he got called up any stadium sunday night baseball is facing a role just chapman throwing one hundred three miles an hour both somehow yes devore solar turns on it and hits it out of the ballpark and the yankee stadium crowd stunned and i love every minute of it but you know and all red sox fans should but yeah i mean again it's just that you you know you see these like pieces i mean not everybody can do these kind of things not everyone can hit a home run you know again those are two great moments bogart's endeavors both happening at yankee stadium hitting the ball long way again you know in situations that you know you wouldn't expect to right i mean that's a cora was asked about and he feels that referee has great upside potential but he doesn't want to overwhelm the kid with too much information th and hit the ball the way he feels he should hit the ball and then they're going to address i think some issue and spring training with them but i think that's the you know the other thing is i do you know obviously english is not devers first language and i think the fact that you know corps is so fluent in  spanish they can you know they can read the report or is there yeah and i think that helps that's something you can have from from ferrol unfortunately you have a lot of players on this red sox team that you know have maybe a dominican or you know  the first and third base coach are fluent in spanish yeah i almost think it should be a requirement now for every major their manager regardless of their nationality or or ethnicity to probably have a crash course you better know you better know some spanish pretty well i mean probably few other languages you  but i think definitely you know you look at the number of latin american ballplayers it's just i think it's twenty three twenty four percent now is it you know that that high while you know well as we continue to kind of you know about surround here about you know differ red sox players mean you you know i suppose if you know there aren't many teams that could probably sign all these players the red sox certainly of the payroll capability to do it if they wanted but you know i think ultimately they're probably not going to you know that i can build a sign of these guys this is going to blow looks like we're going to pick up the price price is going to be with us for at least another three years i don't think we couldn't get a pick up is not an opt out of his contract well let's talk let's get back to the pitching a little bit here and talk about one david price who you know here's somebody who has not been the ultimate  fan favorite here's the infamous shot of mr price the other that some people might look at him but there is that action but you know price you know people are going to look at him right now because with sale you know on the l what kind of get back to sale in a minute too but you know price put up some good numbers this year you know particularly of late i mean overall what he's thirteen and sixty are a about three and a half you know the last i think his last seven starts seas got in  array of around two and he's really you know if they're looking at him more with the sale on the on the d l you know you need kind of price to assume that number one starter role these he's done a pretty nice job even bounced back after getting shut lacked at yankee stadium in early league east and by the time the yankees left fenway park about five weeks later they were nine and a half i mean the red sox this lead that they have over the yankees it's happened it's all happened since july first i mean these teams were deadlocked the first one of the probably tighten up to some level but i'm going to tell you this the the the the red sox you know one i heard people calling on the radio today most like a lot of older people were calling in to some of the talk shows and were basically kept you know the red sox it was three in a row and of course some fans don't know how to handle this and you know older fans are remembering one thousand nine hundred seventy eight again but i think this is a totally different scenario because for one as you mentioned earlier chuck you've got these teams that you know kind of are in that tank both just aren't that good and there's still quite a few of them left on the red sox schedule and i just don't think the yankees even you know the kids are dealing with a lot of injuries to i mean what happened in seventy eight at the red sox i think we're playing around five hundred and the yankees got like white hot and made a fortune in the half games actually moved ahead of the red sox in the sox and the comeback over the last week of the year to force that one game playoff it's that way it just seems unlikely that's going to happen this time because one you know this red sox team compared to forty years ago is much better pitching to you've got a lot of bad teams in the american league three i just think with all the games these injuries they're not capable of going on an eight hundred clip tear here over the the final five weeks so i mean i think it will tighten up to some degree and i know these two teams red sox and yankees play six times over the last  year forty four any teen going into tonight i mean certainly again cleveland is you know kind of exposing you know so you know again i guess looking to october to get some of the concerns that fans have even with a red sox team that's on the  streak you know it can it comes back to that bullpen and who you're going to trust and obviously a lot of you know that the sox fans trust you know you might trust greg craig kimbrel you know certainly is a closer although he's been a little kind of up and down lately night i don't know wow the sox are going to do tonight against the indians but let's say they lose as is price going to be the stopper and all eyes will be on him tomorrow night yeah because that you know it was you know because the last time they had a four game series and price pitched the fourth game when it was that series with the yankees but the sox won the first three so there wasn't a whole lot of pressure on price and he pitched really well but this will be a different you know if they were to lose tonight and now they've lost four straight the price face of the indians you know that's going to be different talk about you know we talk about some of the different options the