welcome to talking politics in western pennsylvania i'm bill merrill the host and today our guest is evan fiber evidence very very nice to have you on it's a pleasure to be and a pleasure to be back at peter's township high school in a media studio where i helped work behind the scenes and also got to be on camera here in high school as well so it's a pleasure to be here with you bill well as i mentioned earlier this is the first time i've ever had to peter signs of graduates here at the same time a distinct honor and well i'm not sure if i then will talk by that at the end of the program  grove city college here in northwestern pennsylvania where i spent the next three and a half years and i graduated from growth city college with a political science degree also a minor in business and after a after my time a growth city i then went and moved to washington d c work for the conservative heritage foundation for a couple of years where i was an education policy researcher and also handled issues on the family and welfare thanks using after a couple years of the heritage foundation i went on to work for senator tom coburn from oklahoma where i spent about three years as his health care legislative assistant where i was i was his health care policy expert in the office and after a few years i went to work for senator rand paul from kentucky where i spent about six months as a staff director for a subcommittee on the health education labor and pensions committee and after that i decided to out to move my family home back here to western pennsylvania and i we decided to get involved and run for congress ok well i mean that sort of have you just had a baby you know all right and she's what's seven eight months old at this sunday i'm sorry luke fidelis feinberg is our pride and joy he is eight months old and he's a phenomenal baby boy he's scurrying up the steps he's crawling all over the house he's getting everything trying to stick his fingers and outlets he's keeping us busy but my wife is a united states marine corps officer she's a captain in the marine corps she's a company commander of a rations company and she's an iraq war veteran and she's just the most impressive person that i've ever met for sure so i'm really blessed to be married to her and she's a great mother to our child and we have a great life well and you mentioned she's from the columbus ohio area she's not local she is she's from columbus and we met during my time in washington d c that she is really excited to have located here in western pennsylvania and these are her type of people this is her type of area and she's just thrilled to be able to raise our son here in washington a new ok well needless to say there's a lot of questions you're younger than most running for these offices les said whenever i put out the word that you're going to be on the program i was inundated by many questions and we're just going to go ahead start getting to them because out of it it's like anything else you've graduated from here but you want weigh so a lot of the people that you went to school with here in peters they're probably doing the same thing somewhere else there with their route to starting their lives or working and everything else so we're just going to go ahead start start to questions one of the things player for a for growth city college and while i was in college i would finish my practice as a growth city and out and meet the ball down seventy nine to the closest school that i could get to that had a good look across program so i was the head coach for their middle school across team and it was a pleasure to be able to give back to the community work with kids and i was a great opportunity for me ok well you said a lot of questions a lot of things here and we're just going to go into it here  let me just go down here to one that i think really actually makes sense here sure you work for two senators and the heritage foundation which is a politically based organization it's a it's an educational organization actually a public policy organization and they put out public policy research and they hold forums and meetings and things like that they're trying to educate members of congress capitol hill staffers and the american public with the impact of different public policy decisions so my particular role is to talk about the federal role in education and talk about we did a lot of research that show that federal micromanagement of local schools actually hurts student performance and that the best thing we can do is actually get the federal government out of the way to reduce and limit the role of the federal government in education and so we fought hard for that i also spent a lot of time talking about the the benefits of giving parents more choices in education and empowering parents so i you know i really enjoyed that time their heritage was you know i published a lot of papers a lot of commentary articles just talking about how how can we really improve education that every kid in america has the opportunity to learn and can get ahead well the question that we talked about earlier as far as  you coming back into the area recently you moved back into upper st clair ok and that move was done in december oh no no no it was done in well we moved back to the area in late september early october and then we bought a house in percent claire and we closed on it in november ok all right peter sonship just went through a very very large political question as far as marcellus shale and drilling and all that stuff when and one of the questions that was brought up to me was when did you change your voting record here to pennsylvania and i didn't register to vote until after those recent election that any time we talked about whenever i was in the service my home was this area and so any time no matter where i was stationed throughout the world my home of record and my voting was always handled here  when you're in other fields you don't get that right and whenever you move somewhere you have to in fact go and vote in that location yeah i would i would just point out this is not an attack on me from my opponent throughout the campaign that i that i lived outside of the peter sonship outside of the western pennsylvania area for four or five years i would just point out that i've got deep family roots here i live here i grew up here my entire childhood my entire high school years my entire college years i want to wait for four or five years to gain the skills necessary to bring those skills back here and be able to serve the people of my community you know people here are really excited that someone would get the skills and experience that i was able to get in washington d c and rather than continue to work in a good nice paying job in washington c a quiet and happy life that i would choose to forego that and then come home move back home and offer those skills to the people of western pennsylvania and so i'm excited to be home bill i consider this home this is definitely home i i was back every steelers home game the entire time i was in washington d c you know the skills that i receive the experience that i received you don't fortunately can't get here in western pennsylvania you know in so many young people are moving away i think it's actually an exciting thing that i was able to bring my family back home well we're going to take a break and what we'll do is come back and talk about that experience for and we'll talk about what that did to in fact give you the background that you you know that you've been look working on right so will will  back right after this announcement and look forward to having a back like you thank something's happening to the polar bear go to save the polar bear dot org today org thanks for coming back once again our guest today is evan feinberg we started on your background little bio by your family and everything before and now we want to talk your experience and what gives you the experience that that we need in the eighteenth congressional district in washington well you've talked about that you've worked on education issues and health care issues it has been stated that you are for raising the retirement age four for social security sure and i think that over time you know when social security began the sixty five age the life expectancy was about seven sixty seven to seventy years old right the life expectancy is now in the seventy seven to seventy eight range so i think it's reasonable to begin to index our retirement would right out sixty five i would move it probably about three months per year for the next twenty years so eventually you might get to an age of about seventy years old but that's over a long long time in it more attractive more closely tracks with aging trends and the truth is right now that our social security program for instance is bankrupt and any politician that tells you it's not bankrupt is line and so i would just suggest that the american people the people of here western pennsylvania need to hear the truth from their politicians and so that's a relatively simple and unobtrusive fix it doesn't impact seniors that are already on social security folks that are nearing retirement it's only three months per year there's plenty of time to plan for that sort of change it's not a disruptive thing at all but i think we need to be honest that social security and medicare are both bankrupt and if we don't fix them our entire country will soon be bankrupt as well do i understand from talking to your staff actually was one of the things that i picked up was  about changing the medicare prescription program well i i think the medicare prescription drug program is based on a on a good model in that position and choice but we never pay for it when we began the program and so is a new seventeen trillion dollars worth of unfunded liabilities program and that's on top of the medicare program that total now has thirty six trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities that means we've made promises of thirty six trillion dollars for medicare that we have no idea how to pay for there's no taxes to pay for that there's no money sitting in a trust fund to pay for it's completely unpaid for so we need to fix all of medicare and that means the prescription drug program and all of medicare need to be fixed so that we can provide better cheaper health care and at a lower cost to government and i'd suggest putting all seniors into the congressional health care plan it's the best health insurance in the country it's less expensive for taxpayers an individual senior will pay less out of pocket per year on their medicare benefits and they're going to do all that and we're going to save sixteen trillion dollars over the next seventy five years on it and that's why it's one point six trillion dollars over the next ten years you know i'm putting out a real plan to save medicare from bankruptcy my opponent all he does is vote against every opportunity to save a little bit of money in medicare and in fact he supported the medicare part d prescription drug benefit without any way of paying for that as well well you brought you brought up a good and then arresting issue i guess  my my wife was involved as a director of one of the local health systems for many years she was involved in that system for thirty two years you've also been quoted as saying that you are were in support of changing the veterans health care and to changing the veterans the health system as a war to allow veterans vultures well for four that's to receive medical care well i don't think i ever said that though but what i did say was that it's a shame that senior i'm sorry veterans often drive past some of the best health care systems in the country a veteran will drive past you fancy to get to sometimes a second rate v facility and so while i would want to do nothing to limit the choices of veterans for health care i would say that arinze deserve the very best health care in this country my wife is a veteran i care about taking care of veterans what i would do is make sure th getting second rate health care services from a particular v a facility that's not meeting their individual needs i think they should have more choice well being of being a retired veteran i'm going to i guess i'm going to stick on this issue for a little bit because of the fact that i when you talk about second rate health care in this veteran's hospital because it works so closely with the you p m c system and the other hospitals is there a specific hospital that you know of that is considered second rate no i think  for the most part our western pennsylvania facilities are actually pretty good but someone asked an honest question about the v a facilities across the country and there are so many to laugh at data there are so many examples of rat infested v a hospitals and things like that the last thing that i want is any veteran wherever they live across the country to be forced into second rate health care so my only point i think you're talking about one town hall comment that i made months ago my point was why don't we want to give veterans the very best health care and if they're not getting it at a pursuing why did you move back into media that's a great question we looked at honestly it was that it was a decision about an individual home and the home we looked at the homes that were on the market and the home that we decided was best for our taxes are better here leave better here they're getting they're getting just as that it seems but but i appreciate i'd love to get back to the point you talked about me being twenty seven and that's become a key issue in this race in fact my opponent's supporters have been calling me the kid and all embrace that because i'll be honest as you mention i've been pretty successful i've accomplished more for conservative principles at this point in my life and some are free ever has or ever will because he's not a conservative but my time i've gained extensive experience u till now in the trenches of the conservative movement fighting for conservative principles accomplishing things that i think that i'm very proud of accomplished by the age of twenty seven but more importantly people are people know that washington d c is filled with career politicians that have been there for decades and decades and those groups all titians of earning nine percent approval rating from the american public because they can continue to vote for more and more government more and more spending in order to get themselves reelected and so there isn't a very strong anti and common mood very strong and sigh folks like tim murphy because they continue to take self interested votes in congress rather than put the next generation first while my generation of the generation that will pay for the excesses of the previous congresses and so people are excited of all ages in this district when i knock on doors knocked on thousands of doors bill when i knock on doors people are thrilled that someone of my age and experience as well and to throw their hat in the ring get into the arena and challenge the old guard and so i'm excited my age has been a huge asset on the campaign trail and i think it's going to be to to murphy's detriment if he continues to make a dish and it an issue when we eventually debate and i certainly hope that he's not scared to debate me when we debate he's going to  and expended tons of time and a lot of effort on this show even you know bringing people on here to discuss the pros and cons of what could have been what a what is your feeling about the fees that the governor apparently is going to sign off against these people it's not against it's a small tax as bert versus what they're looking you know whatever the the people on in other parts of the  county sure try to fight this the oil and gas people we're talking to there was some more like one point nine billion dollars worth of gas on to that small community so when we're talking about one hundred thousand dollars it's pocket change well i don't look at it like that though i look at it like this ronald reagan famously said if it moves tax it if it keeps moving regulated if it if it stops moving subsidize it and i think that that comes into play right hamel reagan said that our our ground that can power the entire world it's a phenomenal gift and it's going to set up our region to be one of the most economically prosperous in the entire world people are calling it the new steel it's it's way better than being just a new steel it can transform our economy here politicians need to get out of the way and taxing marcellus shale when when politicians see a new revenue source they cannot resist their like pavlovian dogs and i would i would say any new taxation fees whatever you want to call it that could hinder the growth of the marcellus shale industry here in western pennsylvania is a huge mistake and wild the revenues look phenomenal now when when prices are down marcellus shale growth will slow and so we want to do nothing to slow ground into people's homes and and vehicles and whatever else we want to use it for ok well let's talk about your experience all right you're writing health care bills but your resume doesn't talk about any time ever working in the health care industry sure you've written education material but you don't have an education background per se your background in political science and well what else can i have a business and religion well so i mean where do you pull your experience from to be able to deal with these issues i think well first i pull from the united states constitution and limited government principles and so i start by taking a firm rutter of what public policy should look like because public policy for me is not based on trying to figure out from the federal government what works best it's about what policies are constitutional watch which ones are not which policies would be beneficial for the government to get involved in the first place and which ones are not but but i asked i worked under some phenomenal experts in my job at the heritage foundation as a researcher was under a senior education policy analyst and a director of domestic policy studies that both have extensive experience in education when i came there so i learned under them and then i grew under then and became an expert over time you know obviously i was reading and discussing and talking with the foremost experts in the education field from across the country during my time at heritage that was one of my jobs was to be sort of a hub for the  conservative education policy experts and so i thought i learned a great deal there and far as health care goes that i would consider myself a health care expert in the sense that i could perform surgery or run a hospital but i am a health care expert in terms of public policy i could tell you every last detail of the obamacare law i can tell you every last detail of the medicare program the medicaid program i could give you extensive answers for different ways that we could change the public policy to make those programs less expensive work better for poor people work better for seniors i can tell you  bankrupt our country two times over so that i would say you don't need to perform surgery to be a health care expert in the sense of being able to apply public policy principles to health care senator tom coburn who i work for was an o b g y n and family practitioner he taught me a lot about health care when i was working for him senator paul who i worked for as an ophthalmologist he taught me a lot about health care when i was working for him being a senate staffer means i was exposed to the top health care experts from within the industry and outside the industry for my entire time in the senate you know i would i would put my health care expertise right out there against against anyone certainly against to murphy's a claim to health care expertise because it's such a psychologist but knowing about the the human brain or about what makes people tick does not necessarily translate into what public policy will make health care cheaper and more higher quality services and so i would put my health care expertise up against anyone like that well ok now let's go into financing then sure ok you have according to the federal election commission you have about fifty thousand dollars in financing contributions of this time during those events on the first found interesting is i couldn't find who came from oh it's all on there well as i said this is this was pulled last night and i there was no details might be in the entire f e c reported every by federal law we need to make all contributions that are two hundred dollars and  not employed by anybody at this certain time that's right i had to quit my job in the senate is a conflict of interest to be both a senate staffer and run for congress and so i'm a i'm running full time you know my wife works and she's a very accomplished individual and she makes a very nice salary to help support our family and obviously before i made the decision to run for congress we certainly saved a lot of money you know my wife is an iraq war veteran she was compensated for her time in iraq she was been compensated for her skills as well you know and i had a couple pretty good job down there in washington d c i was able to save money you know i i i find that question to be it's an interesting question about my personal finances you know we decided that we were willing to make sacrifices to run for congress you know i'm not a wealthy man  we decided that it was worthwhile to quit my job to pinch some pennies to do what we thought was right my wife and i felt called to this raise we felt that it was extremely important the future of our country and we haven't even talked about why i'm running yet i'm running these were fifteen trillion dollars in debt we're set to double that over the next ten years and career politicians in washington d c continue to vote for more and more spending more and more government managing our decline one bridge to nowhere at a time because they continue to put the next election before the next generation so my son luke owes almost fifty thousand dollars on behalf of the federal government by no fault of his own so if i if i want luke to have a fiscal future in this country politicians like tim murphy need to be replaced and that's why i'm running and so even if it's at that personal  sacrifice if we have to eat into all of our savings to make this work i've decided this is worth doing ok well i'm lazy says in the the questions that are raised are because the people when you get my age people expect you to have some some background and experience and things they expect you to have some savings they expect you know to be prepared to have that i want to read i want twenty seven comes up they start wondering what's what's happening how how how can they do this you know my my all wife had a very short run for the county commissioner position and in less than a month it costs over five thousand and before she pulled out of the r speaking of that race you have a democratic right along with a it always amazes me these people run for one office in the soon as they get in that office they run for something else we have to commissioners in the county that have done exactly that they ran both in this last race and then immediately switch and start running for something else larry maggi has been a county commissioner for years and nala he is also running in this race in your race the eighteenth congressional district against you folks you know and he's the only democrat as far as i can see that is as applied or is in fact going to be running you know well when we come back on this next commercial we'll talk about that as well as the other issues dealing with the obamacare you know we're going to point your knowledge about that short and discuss some of those things that in fact are going to as you say bankrupt this country and a short period of time great so thank you very much and we look forward to having a come something's happening to the polar bear and if we don't do something about it the entire species extinct by the end of the century go to save the polar bear dot org well thanks for coming back once again this is talking politics in western pennsylvania and our guest today is evan feinberg haven't we talked about finances we've talked about education we talked about background we talked about your family all right let's talk about one of those areas  that you have done research in and that's the obamacare floor right one of the things that many people don't understand is that those on social security in two thousand fourteen i believe that the social security cost over a bot two hundred fifty dollars a month for recipients ok so i'm so i'm i'm i'm i'm just you know lay said most people don't understand that that cost is ultimately to most of the security medicare and i'm talking about well medicare ok ok that's ok but now i understand we've got to get yes medicare has a lot of cost to the individuals so for instance the average premium for a medicare supplemental plan which about ninety percent of seniors have is anywhere from fifteen hundred to two thousand a month in premiums on top of their premium for medicare which is anywhere from you know medicare part a and part b have different costs associated with the medicare part b premiums about one hundred forty seven dollars a month for the average senior when you add up all those premiums the average seniors paying out of pocket for their health care every year up to three thousand dollars that's a actually it can be up to thirty five hundred dollars in a lot of people's cases that's a large amount of money to spend out of pocket now a lot of seniors don't realize they're paying that because they either have a supplemental policy from their retirees benefits through their employer or they have benefits through the government through medicaid or they have some other way of paying for that supplemental plan but that's real money that's that's paying for wrap around average because medicare is such a terrible i'm sure medicare doesn't cover a lot of things or doesn't give you a lot of choices and providers medicare needs to be fixed but it can ease the fix not just because it's bankrupting us but because seniors aren't getting the best health care we can promise right now members of congress and the federal employees health benefits plan yet wonderful health care and it's cheaper than medicare if you put seniors in that same plan it would be cheaper than medicare so not only will it be cheaper for the senior out of their pocket but it'll be cheaper for the government it's a win win it's a way to save medicare as fiscal problems save medicare from fiscal calamity but also give seniors better care why would anyone be opposed to that you know i was a claims over senator social security for a number of years way back when and one of the things that i found was in the process of these politicians making political hay all right social security was based on a system where it would be a help for seniors not necessarily the only thing that they had it should have been just sort of the fallback position if everything else went to hell in a handbasket back during the sixty's we started giving it to for example and here's here's one of the examples that always got got me crazy if a young professional would come out and say oh for example a dentist and they were making a lot of money in the first couple years of their lives and then something happened to them and through no fault of their own they passed away and they had say two or three children now this is a person maybe it's twenty seven twenty eight thirty years old who had three children who would then automatically start receiving that the wife and their children would receive social security benefits that's not what it was meant to be right and that was not  at that case back in and one of the cases that i'm remembering back in the in the seventy's when i worked for social security was a case where there were three children and at that case the wife got money for having children in her care and each child got money attributed to them so at that point back in the seventy's whenever salaries for full time employees were twelve and thirteen and fifteen thousand dollars per year those people would be getting more than the average salary as average wage earner on the government dole but they would be getting the children be getting it for eighteen years and then the wife would be getting for as long as she had children in her care and then we would then be tapping that the hundreds of thousands of dollars and that time they didn't pay any one hundred thousand dollars so that was totally taken from someone else's money what i would say bill is that the federal government is rife with waste and inefficiencies in the social security program the medicare program no program is exempt from that every one of them when you when you have a government program it's going to be inherently wasteful and so there's lots of problems like that in social security but the more important discussion with social security is how do we say that we've made promises to  seniors we've been investing in social security if you're a worker and you turn sixty five your wages have been taxed for your entire career to pay for your social security is the question is not are we going to provide social security benefits of course we are we can do things to fix the program to make sure that it continues to be there right now i did someone was trying to sell me life insurance the other day and they were trying to show me my career earnings and what they would be and they specifically when they hit retirement they said social security wouldn't be there for me because their actual worry a lot projections say that social security is not fiscally solvent to be there when i retire you know that's their right it's true social security is bankrupt so what do we do to fix it i think there are some broad reforms we could pursue but i'd be ok with her for pursuing  some immediate strategies to save money so the media strategies to save money would be as we said slowly raise the retirement age over the course of twenty years from the very slow very easy to predict the won't put any seniors in a bind doesn't impact current seniors we can also means test benefits as you said it was not meant to be everyone's income for their retirement if you're an upper income senior you should receive less than benefits that supposed to be a safety net for those that are that are destitute when they're when they're out or when they become early and i think that the benefits should be there we've made the promises there are things that we can do to make sure wealthy seniors don't get as much benefits we slowly raise the retirement age over time and when you do that the social security program can be solvent that begs the the question the medicare program a far bigger problem and are far requires much more sweeping reform because it's in far worse fiscal shape even social security well what did what do you consider from your research in things what do you consider the major problems with obamacare right now obamacare twofold one if it's the government squarely between a doctor and their patient and when you do that you're going to get lower quality care people are going to like their care less we're going to get they're going to worse services and there's going to be huge problems you've got problems with the government rationing health care you've got all kinds of problem with the actual provision of health care but perhaps more importantly equally important i should say is that obamacare is going to cost two point five trillion dollars over to first full ten years of implementation to it actually in dollars that we don't have right and we raise some taxes only cuts in medicare benefits and obamacare to pay for a fraction of that but not even close to the full two enough trillion but that number doesn't even include projections are on the congressional budget office what if more employers decide to kick their employees into government run health care rather than offer them insurance they decide i'll pay the fee small tax that i have to pay from the employer mandate provision and i'm going to put my employees into government run health care well if as many is there some estimates as many as three times the employers are going to do that is what c v s said that means this plan will cost seven and a half trillion dollars over ten years that will bankrupt the country by itself obamacare is a disaster it's a disaster for patients it's a disaster for doctors and it's a disaster for taxpayers it must be repealed immediately well you know we've been we've done programs before talking about and the problems that it presented we talked just from here about the cost of social security medicare to those re cyprian's that are going to be receiving is going to jump up from the low oh a hundred dollars now into two years about two hundred fifty percent of that or if it stays in place all right we're talking about i mean but there's other things in that eight hundred page document which i'm sorry to say i actually sat down and read with you which is it's preposterous it's talking about a a quasar a military force to support whatever they want to do and i mean they're so money on many other expenditures but we have the post office failing we have the department of energy which in fact was supposed to stop our dependence upon foreign oil which hasn't worked we have i mean you keep going down is the part of education's questionable they've got their own agenda and they're pushing you know these stupid things through where does it stop that's that's an excellent question and that's that's really why i'm running again i mentioned this before but we're fifteen trillion in debt and were set to double it and politicians in washington d c like tim murphy are patting themselves on the back when they cut two point four trillion dollars off of the growth in government which means they're locking us in to add at least seventy trillion more as much as fifteen trillion more over the next ten years that's bankruptcy and so where does it stop is a great question politicians in d c just keep adding new programs new pork barrel projects new wasteful spending you know i keep saying to murphy and his colleagues in washington d c are managing our decline one bridge to nowhere one north shore connector at a time and unfortunately we can't afford it anymore my son can't afford that cost being delivered on to his back from this generation if my son and his children are going to have a future here in america we need to get our fiscal house in order unfortunately right now the current crop of politicians in washington d c are part of the problem and not the solution particularly tim murphy has been one of the top ten most liberal big government spending republicans his entire time in the house every taxpayer group every free market group national taxpayers union club for growth put them in the bottom ten club for growth has been as well as their fifth least free market republican in the entire house of representatives on the republican side of the aisle and you national taxpayers union we have a society that i just watched a commercial not a commercial but i watched a program on a b c news here the other day occupy wall street and they had a kid with a sign  saying pay for my tuitions so you have you have an entire society who is coming up now thinking the government owes them that the one percent or the five percent or whatever percentage days who has a lot of the wealth should in fact be paying for their whatever it is it's like a big government handout program this this administration has now only about forty five percent of the people in the country paying taxes were fifty five percent are in fact receiving benefit more more welfare more food stamps ever before every program that he's done for housing is in fact a failure every every special program that they're doing is in fact a failure when we come back off of off a break here we'll all we'll get into that as those questions grates but anyhow we'll see you back here s started at for your marriage done or a message from the catholic church they try to compare the occupy wall street with the tea party and i don't see a connection and any way shape or form they were just thrown out of mellon square in pittsburgh finally after living there for since october or september of last year i can't figure out how these people have all this time to do that but as i mentioned a b c ran a thing what are we going to half ago or so where they walked up and they were asking a person what what they wanted you know what was this all about and they came up with you know they well we should get our tuitions paid for we should get our our payment on our homes paid for we should have better social security we should have a better social net our retirement should be something similar to what we're earning whenever we retire how can how can we have an entire generation and i'm not saying that this person is amplifying but you know i was an entire generation but how can we have people even thinking that i think that's an excellent question bill and it's been a key part of my campaign my generation in my opinion has been the entitle generation and occupy wall street is just a manifestation of that we have an expectation that everything will be handed to us that the government will hand it to us or someone landed to us and that we're going to get ahead because we just deserve it and that's not the american dream that's not the american spirit it hasn't been the way that america's function throughout its history and so i think we absolutely need to deal with the entitlement generation by recommitting to the american dream i wrote recently that there are three  choices that we have right now we can embrace the entitlement generation mentality we can turn this country into a socialist country as occupy wall street and others want to do and we can watch our country go bankrupt like that quickly it will fall just like the soviet union second as we can manage our decline more slowly we can one spending bill one new program one new agency one new entitlement at a time as i said as i would argue my opponent has been doing his entire time in d c we can watch our decline happen maybe a little bit more slowly but soon it'll be precipitous when our debt problems get to the point where our currency would collapse if we keep down this path or we can avoid bankruptcy both both a little bit more slowly and more quickly like by wall street and we can recommit our founding principles recommit to the american dream recommit american prosperity through unleashing the ingenuity of the american people to take their skills and their labor and use them in productive ways that will grow our entire country as they produce more people have things and if they have things they produce more and it's just this great cycle of prosperity that we have here in america it's the most prosperous nation in the world not because we're sitting on some cache of of natural resources the most prosperous nation in the we're all because we free the american people to produce and so we've become the wealthiest nation this world has ever known we for the first time developed an antidote to poverty so i hope that we would teach the folks from occupy wall street what is it that makes america great because i think if they realize that it's actually freedom and liberty and limited government that create prosperity and produce the jobs and enable them to pay for their tuition by our help them to be able to afford good quality health care i think they would change their ways but i think we're at a crossroads right now if government politicians are making more and more promises to people they're going to people like occupy wall street are going to continue to ask more and more of government because there will never be enough given to them and the whole reason why solution cost so much healthcare cost so much is because the government's involved in the first place when the government gets involved it makes it more inefficient it inflates the price by subsidizing it it makes it more and more expensive and harder and harder for those folks to access those services so i'm i stand firmly on the side of limited government and with economics that means getting the government out of individuals businesses the g a o report that came down in july discussed how much money this administration has given away and besides that the handouts to the car companies in the banks and everything else in this country over the last two years this is ministration gave three trillion dollars one fifth of our debt to foreign banks ok and most of those were failing foreign banks they're not they're not you know substantial organizations that pass the test and they're there solve them how do you stop that you st bribe the public with their own money right it's very very pertinent that today because right now politicians in washington d c are bailing out industries paying our special interests sending pork projects back their districts for one reason and one reason alone to bribe their their constituents in order to get reelected my phone has been one of the worst offenders at that you look at the auto bailout he supported the auto bailout tens of billions of dollars that have gone into intervening in private industry you look at the entity that caused this housing crisis among other entities and he's he was for bailing them out with taxpayer dollars you continue to look at all of the big spending bills that he supported and he's been bankrupt in this one program at a time when folks try to limit medicaid wasteful expenditures he stood with john dingell a single payer health care advocate on the democratic side from michigan in order to prevent us from saving just fifteen billion from medicaid over the next ten years a small amount of money compared to our future problems you know the reason why i'm running is because we need to stop the debt that you just discussed there fifteen trillion dollars in debt is too much for us to carry we can't afford that soon our currency will collapse if we continue to add more and more debt to that number we need to stop it folks need to get into washington d c and their sole laser like focus needs to be how do we make sure that we do not add more and more debt bankrupting my generation my kids and generation and his children's generation you know over and i'm not as young as you are i know it's a surprise to say but over the years i have heard every politician talk about the evils of washington harrisburg vince for washington stanchions everybody in there is always corrupt everybody in there is always doing the wrong thing generations come and go and the same things happen and the same things happen worse you know  said whenever this president came into office we have problems we have problems with everything you know the banks too big to fail well you know if you had your money in the banks you're sort of thankful that somebody in the kept it there so you could have it  if they failed and went bankrupt then that when the vin an issue that when that when the been an opportunity people are talking about potential if this calamity continues the way that it is where exactly do we have an ending point where word is the taxpayer finally say that's enough and i'm not paying anymore you know we see we're talking the jokingly about i was watching a survivalist program the other day where people  was on the national geographic's and they were they were talking about the saving one one family save fifty thousand pounds of food for whatever it hits the fan and so we do have the society is breaking apart in chunks and you have those who as we thought think that they're entitled to everything you have those that are working to try to make their lives better but and so then paying taxes to making other people's lives better you know we have people that in this country that have and i'm going to use the term but it is the welfare mentality we get on welfare and then we have a bunch of kids and they get welfare and now we're making enough money the whole family can live in our house you know i'd suggest that all of your viewers look at the heritage foundation's report from yesterday they put out their annual index of dependency on government and it said now we're at the point where seventy percent of government spending is on programs for direct federal assistance to individuals we now sixty seven point three million americans that are dependent on government for their daily living work to that tipping point where to the point where only forty nine percent of i want to give you a couple of minutes here to tell the people why you aren't actually on one minute and why you should be the people in the person they vote for great well i'm the only conservative in this race to murphy for the last ten years as a career politician in washington d c has voted for more and more government he's earned his rating as one of the top ten most liberal republicans in washington d c he's consistently supported every big spending bill he's always self identified himself as a liberal republican and all the sudden now we've got a primary challenge when it's best for his reelection he considers himself as a conservative i'm a limited government program of policy who believes in honest governance i want to work for the people watching pennsylvania to get the government out of their way the only way that we can get our economy moving again and get this country back on track is debt getting our fiscal house in order and getting the government out of the way here in western pennsylvania so those are the principles that i stand for i bring youth enthusiasm a fresh perspective the washington c rather than a congress that has a nine percent approval rating i bring a fresh perspective to d c that can get this country back on track by restoring our founding principles by recommitting to the american dream recommitting to american exceptionalism and force i don't think my opponent shares those values and that's why you're seeing national endorsements for my race you're seeing local job creators endorse my my candidacy my my right my this race is about the future of our country and folks are going to support me if they want to stand on the side of freedom all right well i haven't thank you very much for coming  the opportunity talking thank you so much for having me all right well thank you very much for good for tuning in and we'll look forward to in fact having you back on the next time when we have the opportunity to in fact talk politics