see this population of information that represents this project to make sure by the time we submit it to the border you have to be up you know at the goal line that it's actually right meaning that it's good contains the right  and it's it's in the path going because it would be a very big effort to go back and start to do this process all over it so this the board meeting is what happens next year we have tonight is engage in a healthy discussion of this project because our design team thinks that don't last a quiet town and we don't have a lot of opinions and i actually disagree that we have a lot of opinions and we need to give those to the designers so they know what we want and that's something that this group is the we used to do it so my my hope is that tomorrow morning after this meeting i don't get a bunch of e mails or phone calls and talking about what happened let's talk about it today and so the idea of the format today is really to engage in a discussion and i'm sorry that there are thirty three seats quite a few people are here today but there's about thirty of us if we were all here that's just the way for a joint meeting happens doesn't this shouldn't hold us back from discussion  you know it seems like a long agenda but it really isn't that bad let's just talk and not worry about the time if we have to continue this we will we have multiple meetings we'll talk about that anyways and no comment is a dumb comment i know we  questions i have there are a bunch of handouts in front of you just to make sure you have we have the minutes we'll go over those we have a list of future public meetings we're going over that we have  meeting is december twelfth on the books for a school committee and drug you want to explain what those your is and i'll ask will committee meeting or you know city water to make sure that we are providing the public access to the conversations all the following meeting with something that was on the books for the twelve but that conflicted so it is our next community engagement as there is a committee reaching out to go on public can engage in there and this is what we're terming our design workshop in and i think diane you do it sort of started that discussion last time that and said you know we really should be rolling up our sleeves sitting at tables with of representatives from the architectural design group and started to look you know converse and mark down and talk about how things developed so for those folks that are comfortable well with that this will be a exciting time and for those that don't really know about it means it will be very exciting as well because you'll see how things evolve it's similar to the vision in the way we set up and design teams are still working on that but i do believe it will be probably two or three designs sort of work working outwards where we come together we talk we go often in some groups table groups where we work and then those groups sort of project what they were thinking about and then we do that few times with different aspects and the idea is that all these all the products of this all the paper and the comments in the pictures that we take will be sent back to the architectural team and they will start to incorporate that into the next round of the development so we have some ideas here but these are just ideas so we're trying to take that to the next step further a this is the day that we do have to make it in order to have the board so little the l s p a board of review boards a little in their hands by february so that is an important meeting in a joint meeting and that right now is have been doing this looks like we're confirmed with the meeting dates we're almost confirmed with all the locations and by the time monday rolls around we should have all the information because even the people the agenda certainly it's an ongoing process and when we submitted it when we submitted i think we said last time that the investigative staff this is for staff review actually reviews it and says they're coming back so it's an evolving process and  architect under contract could only really dialogue with the o p m and the chair of the building committee by their contract and that sort of person there's a very good reason for that because if you have thirty people talking to solve it it gets very difficult there's only six sections of the serial that were set and i will just briefly go through the last people have any other comments i'll say that the introduction packages are very brief package that sort of describes w could sort of follow what's going on so that i was that was a nice request so that's all i'm going to be on the introduction is it is very broadly the second section of the educational program and that's a pretty involved up right there  the board meeting for their for approval course keep in mind that that's more formality because they've had two months to review it and again engage in discussion with the district so at that point when we go to the meetings we're pretty much open   and that's a lot of work that's going on right now to document the reasons why there's five hundred or more square feet and this area it's you know thousand square feet more than that area and so it's that documents that we did all right  a decision that you don't there are things that we should just take off the list or what ever i received some some of these back and i can tell you that the options that are dropping off pretty quickly will be on your new configurations from the evaluation it will be the three point two or what's called the new construction and adding on to it and the one that seems to be still holding its head above water is two point one which is something we're going to talk about tonight there are a couple that are very similar but will be the options two point one for duck talk about two point three which is the major addition to the west of the point for which is the major addition to the south and then the all new to the west and those seem to be consistently showing us for after now and starting to teach them all a little more cultivatable and see how they can come up to a good design for we really have these four options and nothing else so these four options could evolve into or morph into in the next month month and a half into something that you just described in other words today we're going to sort of tease these out and start to you know turn out to be the better option because playing the record for something or just doesn't really work because for so if it turns out the new construction is the way the turns out to be and i don't know if it is the let's say or the then we're really talking about really one option here which you're going to let us behind and we're going to go through each one of them each of the four and we're going to have the architect just to talk about some of the attributes and then you see in front of you are pros and cons or if those are all major there are things you can't it's a parking another opportunity that the architects did look at another words we said pretty early to them i don't know if all of you were here that it would be not a great solution to try to relocate the high school temporarily while we build on th and these actually work perfectly because you can actually do exactly we're talking about you can build a building move the kids like for right now we're going to leave the high school kids us high school kids they go into the school we knock down the other part it just it works this way for me and i think that most people in the town actually like to feel tired i mean it's a great facility and swimming pool it's a win when you get brand new academic areas and to me it's  four you know everything is spread out nicely i like the way the buildings are down i like the lineal i think it really works two point three years and horrible and we get into the newer stuff the way it's placed on the on the on the site will be here for me that doesn't work four even two point three two point four to me knowing how this whole thing i'm a developer so i get the way the language works that is that i think that's a very good starting point i just want to remind everybody office this way why ok so if you look at the way those buildings the layout the way it out with the widest piece of atlanta with them the landscape can look at the way those other ones there perpendicular to the land or less right i've got two kids in high school or my my kids play sports i talk to a lot of kids they actually law school a lot of the big go to that school walk to school they like the way it's spread out i get would superintend a failing saying look like all these close spaces you know promote great learning but the kids in belmont are actually doing pretty well at that school so i've got my kid secular you guys crazy where you're going to high school building committee type of schools great i'm like you know what it could be better so to me that accomplishes one of things i think it's it's nice it's different direction but i want to take things one i also agree with joe i'm getting two point four is really a strong option in the arms of the same thing that they don't like about two point four it that way look at the interior i feel like two point three of them are  you take the most extreme only and when you have a very long very contractors on the site you're building parking around here and people around i mean these will have these these projects will have that right you're going to constantly constantly so i think i'm not sure to tell you to what extent a major assets to the town and so that should be retained as it is because anything new brand new yorkers start all over that is it is this gentleman next to mark because it went through a special permit public process and it was given a high i'll say variance but of hype waiver because  than private construction costs and there are a lot of reasons for that there's a lot more safeguards that are put into public construction projects because in the past there's been a lot of bad dealings that have taken place  and because of those lack of those lack of safeguards here monies were pocketed and instruction that quality was not what it should have fared so there has be public structural problem projects versus private construction and again for a lot of good reasons those provisions are in place they do you have the school factor to the public construction factor in constructing schools because they're one of the most complex buildings that you can build on a public process just adds to that cost as well so you have those two factors that make public construction of school buildings far more expensive than a private construction project you know i people come to watts all the time and say but i can build you know or x y z complying with the open media laws and making sure that we have to gauge the public through discussions of public discussions public discussion and so are there any questions on this just to be clear  this is a long process it would be a good idea to say that this is right through school committee the board selected so that if different pieces come on that later on there's not some some challenger or what have you because th