us pray eternal spirit help us to be honest with ourselves and with one another search our hearts no thoughts and purify our motives so that we will treat others with respect and guide our senators in their work help them to bear but process of change and challenge and to refuse to be intimidated by the difficulties give them the courage and humility to take their burdens to you and lead them and all their striving remind them that it is a greater blessing to give than to receive help them this day to know you more fully love you more deeply and serve you more faithfully we pray in your hollow name  illinois to perform the duties of the chair sen robert c byrd president pro tempor under the previous order leadership time is reserved under the previous order the senate will resume consideration of s thirteen forty eight which the clerk will report county number one forty four s thirteen forty eight a bill to provide for comprehensive immigration reform and other purposes under the previous order there will be one hour for debate prior to a vote on amendment number thirteen eleven as modified and the motion to invoke cloture on the substitute amendment number eleven fifty with the time equally divided and controlled between the two leaders or their design to me but i was just taking a couple of minutes out first i don't know that there's any of my colleagues on the floor but i'll assume that the object the objection that was perceived last night to my request to make pandang to dispense with the current business and make pending imam in that number thirteen twenty three will still be in effect but i want to renew it and if any changes been made in that i hope that they will but i would assume based on what i know that there is still objection to bringing up that amendment i have quite a number of amendments fifteen are more amendments that are about ten or more amendments that are been those amendments won't be on the list and can't be given a vote i'm not trying to run around and in move something through that that stands i'm jackson to but i want to make the point that a number of senators have a number of important amendments pain that are filed but can't be made into and they will fall and not get a vote if we move forward with this premature cloture so i strongly object to cloture i do believe it denies us the right i'm in this bill that seriously flawed i would just note that the minute i particularly want to bring up his name for charlie norwood a congressman from georgia who died recently a tremendous patriot shared my concern and we worked together in drafting his amendment that was introduced in the house which was designed to clarify the local law enforcement officers have an opportunity to participate  kind then they should check their records and if they are here illegally go detain them for federal officials actually in many instances that still doable today but in a couple areas it's and lawyers for departments and all  have objected to their police officers but to separating because they think they might be a problem i would just say that that's a critically important amendment that if it is not adopted indicates to me that they parsons pushing this legislation don't want to work because there are six hundred to eight hundred thousand state and local law enforcement officers only about twelve thousand four hundred ice agents and only i was small fraction of them not on the border are two thousand something of that nature of ice i just cannot cover this country they have to rely on the state and local law says who by the way  caught individuals before during a crime sprees or plans to attack so nine eleven they were apprehended in traffic stops and that can of thing john malvo was apprehended the terrorist ha been apprehended for speeding but let go because a local ops is why aren't participating effectively in the system now you want to say that one of the weaknesses of this bill is that the professionals who understand how this system will work were not invited and were not a part of the in the room that wrote this political veil a bunch of politicians wrote it and they didn't understand sufficiently the details that are critical to successful import the report and  nation close quote he said it's a slap in the face close quote to the millions of americans who come here legally he came as an immigrant legally a believe that he was former chief of border patrol and he said these strong things about this bill see my friend dr coburn and i know he has an amendment i'm glad that get milo comments and beforehand and once again to express concern that amendments not being accepted and we should not have cloture mr president senator from oklahoma and as agreed upon time that i will have twenty minutes to discuss amendment thirteen eleven i'd like to call it up as modified at the present time and of that twenty amendments twenty minutes i'd like to ask mr president let me make an inquiry i wanted to speak for a minute on the coburn and then and then for four minutes or so on cloture is the time allot oklahoma what is the allocation that he would wish to make was promised twenty minutes last night and i'll be happy to try to finish my remarks in less than that and give you the remaining time thank you mr president i appreciate that thank mr president the coburn de mint trigger amendment that's what this amendment is is about setting right what's been promised since one thousand nine hundred six it's about requiring that the existing border security and immigration laws that we have on the books today be enforced and the fact that they are being enforced be approved by congress before the amnesty in this bill can be granted the federal government has not been obligation to secure the u s borders and enforce u s laws the american people expect that their laws will be upheld if the u s borders are not secure an estimated twelve million of which for half are five million or overstayed visas make up this of twelve million illegal immigrants in our country today the american people face a history since the one thousand nine hundred six amnesty bill of being over promise and under sold on immigration enforcement by their government the federal government has failed and has rightfully lost the trust of the people how can the people trust that this time things will be any different than one thousand nine hundred six this is not about having welcoming arms this is about the security of this country and the rule of law this amendment is the first help first step to help restore some of the trust congress has lost its this that before this bill can go forward the president must demonstrate to congress and congress must agree that current laws are being enforced laws that are on the books this amendment is common sense if the agencies can demonstrate that u s borders are secure and immigration laws are enforced then the american people have reason to believe that this time things will be different they will demonstrate the compassion once a given so often seen in the past what will this trigger do this triggers a legislative mechanism for ensuring that the federal government meets certain legal obligations before the process for legalizing immigrant illegal immigrants can begin its very simple it will add to the current trigger a minimum it takes several provisions the existing law laws that are on the books and requires that they be fully implement before we grant amnesty or legal status to illegal aliens what are they the department must achieve and maintain operational control of the international maritime borders of the u s as required by a law passed last year by eighty tonight king in this body the secure fence act all databases maintained by the department with information on aliens shall be fully integrated as required by section two zero zero two of the enhanced border security and visa entry reform act of two thousand and two not accomplished yet number three the exit portion of u s visit system to be fully implemented as required by section one t n of the illegal immigration reform an immigrant responsibility act of one nine hundred ninety six not being enforced that the provision of a law that prevents states and localities from adopting sanctuary policies are fully enforced as required by section six  of the illegal immigration reform and immigrant responsibility act of one nine hundred ninety six that they impart department employs fully operational equipment at each port of entry in accordance with section three hundred three of the enhanced border and security and visa in tree reform act of two thousand and two aliens with border crossing cards are prevented from entering unless biometric their biometric card is matched to them as required by section eleven zero one six of title eight of u s code trigger works it requires the agencies that are responsible for implementing these laws and the various portions of them to report to the president when they have been fully implemented and that this president reviews the certifications and he's a real approve or deny that if a president denies the agency has fulfilled the requirement for in law the president must instruct the agency on what to do and when to bring it up today congress shall then on an expedited basis once the president has certified review the report and pass really resolution affirming that the laws have been enforced they have been implemented we're not ever going to gain the trust back of the american people on immigration to we do what we've already passed it's not about not welcoming people it's about  of law and understanding that the only can they have a future if we maintain the rule of law why is this needed the great commandment did several good things but it didn't go far enough it lacked two key elements it did not require that existing laws be implemented and enforced you know why is it that we're debating that existing laws should be enforced were ignoring existing laws and it did not require congressional approval the recent  report found that two thirds of americans believe it does not make sense the debate new immigration law new immigration law in till we can be first in force and control our border and enforce existing laws the bill is flawed because it allows those here legally to adjust legal status before any of the new or old enforcement provisions are made it requires that those that are here illegally become legal before we have control of the border this is not about not wanting and admiring and accepting the work ethic of those that come here but it says that we must secure our border remember fort dix new jersey one out of three of those involved in fort dix new jersey terrorists came in through our southern border this amendment requires that before any illegal alien is allowed to just a legal status that congress certified the department  operational control of the border the second problem it creates a new temporary worker program without first have a mechanism in place to verify that temporary workers investors leave when their visas expire we're going to set up a whole new program we can't even tell you when they left now under the u s visit all it's never been implemented the visa exit system so we have a have a system that controls who comes into this country but we have no idea who goes out you can have a temporary workers program if you operational it's never been implemented the third problem addressed the american public does not trust that we will enforce the laws we have namely they do not trust that the enforcement provisions in this bill like the employer verification system will be implemented congress continues to pass laws that do not get in force and does nothing to ensure that they are enforced part of the purpose of the last amnesty was to enhance our enforcement so that americans could maintain sovereignty president reagan put it specifically on november sixth when president reagan's signed this the immigration reform and control act of one thousand nine hundred six into law he stated this legislation would help meet the challenge to our sovereignty caused by illegal immigration he lighted highlighted three provisions of the eighty six bill including employer sanctions nonexistent measurements to increase information and enforcement of our immigration laws and legalization of those here illegally more than four years yet the amnesty happens significant portions in employment sections and the increased enforcement measures have been delayed or in some instances never implemented the americans have a right to question whether things will be different this time what this amendment will do is ensure that employer verification system required by the current trigger is actually implemented and working properly before we grant legal status to those that are here illegally it's not enough to allow presidential certification that will lot likely be reviewed we have that problem now congress must review discuss have hearings and then public the vote to certify that the provisions required in this bill and by prior laws are functioning that's when we regain the trust of the american people it will provide transparency and accountability the public that americans want not not only that if the public views of enforcement is inadequate and then not in compliance with their laws they will be able to hold elected officials accountable at the voting booth the may thirtieth two thousand and seven rasmussen report reveals that the public does not support or trust this immigration bill seventy five seventy four percent do not believe that illegal immigration will decline if the senate passes this bill forty one percent believe that illegal immigration will increase as you heard the group of retired border control agents state if those polled had a chance to improve the legit lation seventy five percent would make changes to increase border security measures and reduce illegal immigration sixty five percent of americans are willing to accept a compromise on illegal status if you can assure them that the rest of the laws are going to be enforced this bill does not require them and what they're going to get is the same thing they got in one nine hundred eighty six what this what this amendment will do will help improve importunate of the borders it will reduce illegal immigration it will give the public confidence and give elected office officials the opportunity to vote on the status of where we are in terms of enforcing the law how do we get here we got here through well intentioned mistakes we got here because we gave amnesty in one thousand nine hundred six we said we were going to have employer verification and we told the american people that the borders would be secure what this amendment does a sense told me the first time shame on you fool me the second time shame on me what this amendment does is assure the american people that this time as we grant amnesty to those who came here illegally that the american people are assured that it's not going to happen again there is no assurance this bill that this is not a repeat of one thousand nine hundred six and it's not about not being compassionate to those who are here and are contributing is not about saying no matter of fact sixty five percent of people want to say yes if you can prove to them that things are going to be different this time however under this bill there is nothing that will say things will be different  i praise the people who worked on this bill to put together this compromise but i think history points us in a direction that says we have to have proof this time we have to know that if we do this again with at least twelve million people if we grant amnesty and i know the president says it's not amnesty but if you come here illegally and eventually are illegal mistake and if we're willing to do that this time the american people ought to have the assurance that we're not going to do that again that we're going to have an immigration enforcement policy a employer verification system a entrance and exit system and a border security that's going to make sure we don't repeat the mistakes of the past i believe this bill needs a lot more work believe it has a lot of complications that are on for singing and not that we are not aware of at this time i would like to take a moment to thank the majority leader for allowing me this time and senator kennedy for working with me to allow me this time to talk about this amendment i believe we have a critical problem in our country caught in the president's ratings are low but our ratings are even lower the trust of the american people in this institution is less than a third of the people in this country how do we build it up we build it up by passing this  we build it up by showing them that we understand their concerns we understand that they are willing to accept and allow people who came here illegally to live here as citizens and get on that pa to citizenship provided we do the necessary things that go back to this again this bill is severely lacking in the demonstrating that prove to the american people we have to build the confidence we have to regain the trust of the american people that we will in fact this time do what is necessary to secure our borders and control our borders we are at risk as the fort dix belated plan was discovered in terms of our own national security so it's not all about immigration it's about national security and there's nothing in this bill that forces the president of  any party who is in charge or forces the congress to do anything different than what we've done in the past i believe it's highly important that this trigger magen this mechanism in india surance the american people that we have a secure border that we have a visa inference exit system that works that we have employer verification that works that those key things are in tact before we grant legal status to those that are here illegally senator from texas president and the times remaining six minutes and fifteen seconds thank you mr president let me say first i thank the senator from oklahoma for allowing me to have the rest of his time and i don't disagree with one thing he said i agree with his purpose however i have to oppose the amendment for this reason last year the house put in the secure fence act specificity about exactly where the fence would go and it also said that we would there was no requirement that the local people private property owners of cities that are right on the rio grande river would have any input whatsoever i do not think that congress can say that the priority fencing is fifteen miles on either side of the port of entry of laredo it might be ten miles we might be spending billions of dollars that are unnecessary putting fifteen miles it might not even be possible to put it in certain places because of the geography and the tough agression so we have an amendment in the underlying bill that does require local input so that there is not congress mandating but instead the border patrol chiefs who have been designated by the department of homeland security that will make these it would it would relieve that problem as you saw in the secure fence act of last year of two thousand and six would your underlying language would leave that problem in the two thousand and six a cure  offense it does relieve the specificity of exactly where it goes so that would supersede whatever we had in the secure fence act in my memory and so therefore your argument i believe is moot because if you have that in the underlying bill then the the problem is solved and you should be able to support this m m well unfortunately i'm afraid the amendment overrule that minor revision act which frankly mr president i have to say to the senator from oklahoma we had agreement from the leadership on both sides of the aisle in both houses that we would take out that particular part but the leadership changed and we were not able to vote again and hold up the bill because it was the defense supplemental bill to which that border fence was attached  to have held up the bill would have been the hold up our defense supplemental which of course overrode everything that's why we waited to try to fix just a minor part in this bill which we've done and which would be undercut by the coburn amendment so i find myself having to oppose the senator from oklahoma is a man but even in many ways i understand his purpose and agree with his purpose nevertheless i must protect the rights of my constituents who are cities and and private property owners that have to have  input from those local people and the border patrol should be the ones deciding exactly where those fences are needed not the united states congress most of whom have not ever visited laredo texas so mr president i do hope that we can defeat the coburn amendment and go forward with the bill as it will not go forward with the bill as it stands today but certainly with this part of the bill now mr president i'd like to use the rest of my time to talk about cloture because i am most certainly strongly against cloture on the underlying bill that is before us not that there isn't some good in this bill but this bill is not ready to be closed out mr president the good parts of the bill are the border security the border security has specific benchmarks that must be met before the trigger is pulled for the guest worker program to go forward that is a good part of this bill i added an amendment at midnight last night that shores up the social security protection in this bill there was a loophole in the underlying bill that would have allowed people to gain social security credit for hours worked illegally for days and months and years worked illegally that would have hurt ourselves the security system we fixed that last night that's a good part of this bill there are good parts that need to be worked on to make this a better bill however closing this bill out now would be worse than the present law today or the present lack of law today we have in this country with the estimated twelve maybe even twenty million illegal people here we know that there are security lapses we have to fix that i respect very much the bipartisan work that has been done on this bill but it is not yet ready the five year sunset of the guest worker program is a killer we could not possibly say that we are going to fix the chaos that happened after the nine hundred eighty six act because there were unanimous consent for one more minute thank you mr president i want to also make sure that i have the opportunity to introduce an amendment that would take the amnesty out of this bill i could never vote for cloture until we have the opportunity to address the amnesty issue my amendment would require every person who is seeking the one of the people who are going to try to work in our country illegally to return home to apply from there mr president i think that would make a huge difference in this bill it would take out the amnesty because it would say if you're going to work in our country today or tomorrow or two years from now or twenty five years from now you will apply from outside the country to come in legally so we have control of our system thank you mr president i hope we can avoid the cloture so that we can work on a very complicated bill as it should be because we have a complicated problem immigration we have come a long way since we started the debate on this matter and it's fresh in my mind what went on last year when we had the debate on immigration that passed the senate last year and we worked long and hard we had twenty three roll call votes prior to cloture seven amendments in addition to that were done by voice vote last year post cloture we had three that went by voice and we had eleven that were voted on this year we've had twenty eight roll call votes on amendments we have had fourteen amendments by voice a total of forty two amendments so we're way ahead of where we were last year mr president now i understand that people were concerned yesterday about not having enough amendments i think everyone had an opportunity to offer amendments but it's interesting we had  people who are saying this amendment that passed is a deal breaker and on the other side we had an amendment to pass is a deal breaker so i guess whether a bill is improved or not is in the eye of the holder because certainly there were certain there were certainly some disagreement as to what improved or didn't improve the bill i also think it's interesting that people agitated for amendments and then when the amendment didn't go their way they were upset so mr president this is a bill that we have pushed it down the road a long ways and i hope we can finish it you know i spoke last night so i don't know what time it was four thirty m european time i called to see if mr bolton the president's chief of staff was with the president he was and i didn't want to disturb him that time of the day but i did had and i have a good long conversation with the secretary of homeland security judge chertoff and that was ten thirty eleven o'clock last night and i explained to him how this legislative process works and he asked me to go over it with him again because he he's worked long and hard he's had cabinet officers working with democrats and republicans to come up with a bill the so called compromise and some called a grand compromise but as least a compromise and i told him that the vast majority  democrats want this legislation to move forward and i think someone should get word to the president that if this bill goes down with the vast majority the democrats voting for this action to move forward on this and republicans vote against it he and i discussed what the headline is going to be the headline is going to be democrats vote to continue the bill republicans vote against it the president fails again i don't think that's good i think that we need to show that we have the ability to work with the white house now mr president i know that there are some people would like us to stay on immigration for the rest of this work  three weeks left and it would make some people just happy as larks to be able to spend the rest of this work period on immigration why because some people don't want to go to the next two matters or we're going to have to deal with number one is energy when we went home during the memorial day break there were two things people want to talk to me about one of them was an immigration iraq war and gas prices that's what people wanted to talk about wherever i went i spent a lot of time in nevada but i traveled other places the country it was the same iraq and this war and do something about these gas prices and we're going to take up energy that will be the thing that we do after we do the immigration bill so i know some people don't want to still there and after we finish that we have an obligation to do for our military in our country the defense authorization bill again there will be a debate on iraq i'm sure someone will want to talk about timelines i'm sure that some want to talk about readiness and i'm sure there will be people wanting to talk about transitioning the mission and may be seen there be some efforts made to do away with their written their regional authorization of the war i don't know for sure but that's an issue that some people would use and we stayed away from so i know that people would like us to stay on this forever but the question mr president is when is enough enough and now i am i i am going to ask reserve action reserving the right to and there is a good action on this side of the aisle moving the cloture vote to later today let me just repeat publicly what i've said earlier both publicly and privately to my good friend the majority leader republican senators are going to need more amendments we've had twelve roll call votes on our side of the aisle on this bill today i think at a very minimum we need to have the same number of republican roll call votes on this bill that we had last year i think we can get there we're not going to get there by shutting off dition all important and worthwhile amendments on the side of the aisle but it's certainly not my goal to not get this want to make it clear that i would urge no vote on cloture shortly but again having said that i think we have a chance to get enough amendments process to possibly finish this bill in the near future therefore best present object mr president the objection is heard now mr president i'm disappointed because i and akkad last year we had fourteen votes post cloture but i learned a little bit about this place that sometimes you have to do indirectly what you can't do directly now it just makes so much sense that if people want more amendments it would be wise to agree to our suggestion that we put over the cloture vote to later this evening we could process amendments during that time and have  understand that there's going to be an objection but i'm going to do indirectly but i can't address it and that is everyone should know if cloture is not invoked this morning and if the republican would hope that there could be some more work done on what other amendments post closure that is germane amendments i know of a couple that are germane and i've told people they can have votes on those i repeat what i've said on this floor several times but i've told the managers the bill i've told individual senators we are not going to block as we can do procedurally votes on the german amendments or post cloture we're going to go ahead and process as many of those as we can reasonably do and we have spent thirty hours doing it we will otherwise well we'll get a list of the amendments that people are set that the parliamentarian will and will set up of a predefined a vote on those and move on so i would hope that everyone understands that if closure is not a vote we're going to go ahead and i will get on the right side of the issue as we have to do here procedurally and have the ability to bring this up early early or early evening time and during that period time i hope that the people who feel they have not had enough amendments are us away and we can go ahead and have a cloture vote and move forward on this this bill i had i had one member of our caucus explain it this way mr president she said it's like running a marathon and i told her afterwards i was envious that she had thought of this and i hadn't because i've run a few marathons and she describes so well as the senator cantwell from washington she said you know about the twenty second mile mark you're really tired and you think maybe i should have quit earlier but i've got i can see the end up here now i mean when i finish this race and that's how i feel about this there are times during this debate that i feel we'd all be better off just having walked away from th now as senator cantwell said i think we may even be about twenty four mile mark and as with a marathon mr president there are times when you're running a marathon you feel euphoric you feel so strong here i am out here alone and i'm able to travel these miles and then just like that it can change well i'm the euphoria is gone the determination is here and i think we need to complete this marathon and so time disappointed we're not going to have closure today but everyone should know have closure i can later on in the day and i would finally ask and sent mr president that the cloture vote on a bill be delayed to occur only  massachusetts ok the broken immigration system and we've had scores of hearings with the immigration committee and at the judiciary committee what was offered on a number of a different occasions that said we can solve our problem just by  in the southwest border or just by having a strong security in the southwest border to eight hundred miles down there we can fence off different areas and then use other kinds of technology and that is going to solve our challenges down along the southwest border you put a forty foot fence and it's going to be forty one feet lad is that it going to come over that what you need to do as governor to politan o and others testified including the secretary of homeland security said you we need to have a comprehensive we have to have a compromise major if we're going to secure the borders we need to have a comprehensive measure which means we have to do all that we possibly can to secure the borders by the latest in technology and i'll mention that just in a moment but then we also if we're going to secure those borders we're going to have to recognize that there's going to be pressure even on those borders so that we have to organize and structure some kind of way for people to come in the front door otherwise they're going to go over the back door which means that they're going to scale the various fence and we say no what we want to protect american workers so we work out an elaborate program to make sure that we're going to make sure that anyone that's going to come on into the united states through the front door is not going to displace an american worker and we worked out a process in the system to make sure that there is no american workers that want to take that job there are only those that want to come in to be able to work in those a areas and we've gone through that in the course of the debate but you need not only that but if you want to make sure that you're not going to still have some leakage in there you're going to have to have interior enforcement you're going to have to have it in the in the employer situation you have to have that or otherwise we're going to go back to what is been roundly criticized here and legitimately so one hundred eighty six so you have to have important interior enforcement in the workplace so we had to include those those provisions in in this legislation as well and then if you're really going to have some kind of opportunity to make sure that you're going to look out after the national security interests of the united states you're going to have to know who is here not that you're just going to have billions of people living in the shadows we don't know their names we don't know their addresses we don't know where they're living we have to bring them out and bring them out we're not confound just to that bring them out  automatically because they have broken the law so we worked out a system where these individuals pay have you find and effectively they go to the back of the line so anybody that's been trying to get in here legally will be able to do so before they will have any kind of opportunity to move ahead towards a sexually normalizing their lives and moving on to the opportunity for a green green card so it became very apparent that all of these elements work and work together and if we except the coburn amendment we are interrupting this whole kind of a process and what we have heard time and time and time again is that if you interrupt this process then you have a breakdown in the whole kind of condition and you're going to be inundated with the undocumented aliens we want to stop the border patrol highly trained highly committed highly dedicated individuals from chasing after landscapers across the border we want them to be looking after terrorists in the criminal element right right and therefore you have to make sure you're going to have the other aspects of the security measures put in place and what does that mean that means internal continuation of a broken and a failed system i just say finally mr president this proposal in terms of our security interests may not be perfect but it does provide the twenty thousand additional agents it does provide two hundred features we have followed what has been recommended by the department of homeland security to get the best security we could but the idea that we're going to suspend some those elements that have been intertwined it as secretary chertoff said very eloquent you need them all and i appreciate the fact that the good senator from oklahoma says well let's hold certain parts back until we get everything in place our answer is you better start getting everything in place if you really want to have a secure supply a secure border amendments this morning i'm not here to speak on them but just to give the numbers and to bring them up as was a agreed last night i was senator if i could request from senator kennedy that i newsgroup amendments with the republican leadership and we intend to do that at the as soon as we get to the beginning of the vote and rather than make that judgment at this particular time i would ask that the senate would defer very well work goes out to obviously we're going to work now with republican leaders because we've been expected to cooperate and work and do as much as we possibly can during the day so the and i know our leader has given those interest and he'll be a part of this question let me just talk about where we are you know when you have a legislative process in full bloom in the senate it sometimes is monkey court last night we once again the absolute rule that if the senate is in voting you know it's midnight one o'clock we're going mess up it's ever happened every time and yet leaders continue to do it i used to do it and it's one of the dumbest things we do around here but if you look this is a part of the process this is a worthwhile effort if anybody in america likes where we are illegal  this is one of the biggest issues facing this country and the question is do we have the courage to nasty and the ability to get anything done any more if we can do this without a vote to dissolve the congress and go all white the next election can we do anything anymore i don't like a lot of these members on a like a lots in the bill i was in and out the meetings but i was not one of the people that worked in the so called grand bargain some people are acting operation i don't believe so everybody knew there was an effort underway republicans were involved democrats were involved administrations involved conservatives liberals agricola everybody now we're going to pick it to death i just don't think there's a responsible mom i'm getting calls but i would say to my constituents do you have no faith in me after thirty five years that i'm that i'm just go are we going to belie that description are we going to step up to this challenge and try to get it done right we should vote down cloture now culture should have been filed u k ram the senate  ram the minority around here in this work all it does is make people get madder and it takes longer but we're going to have a vote on cloture and we're going to think cloture because more men which are legitimately pending but i'm amendments that have been thrown up there for the purpose of cannon that to me is not an appropriate way to proceed i think our leaders you know they work through difficult times are being pulled and pushed by by members on both sides no let's let's let's legislate let's vote i think the majority leader has a right to expect at some point we indeed try to cover as many objections in a minute minutes from as we can but it's some point we've got to get this done now unfortunately the idea that all well then we're going to go to a debate on a non binding irrelevant amendment by senator schumer if we defeat this legislation then we fall off into that kind legislate that find a way to take up things we do we need to take up energy yeah we need an energy policy and we need it now but can't we do it i want to be a part of a in dealing with the nation's a challenge is how much time mr president two minutes and thirty seconds and then for thirty seconds well mr president there are going to be few issues that come before the united states senate that are more important than the immigration reform issue our immigration system is broken this is a national security issue it's a national security issue it's an internal kind of security issue it's basically also a fairness and your main issue about how we're going to treat each other to abolish all of these factors we're going to have a cloture petition that's going to be filed and now there's no sense an expectation that will be the defining moment the as because we have heard now that it will be not be achieved but we have every intention of continuing today democrats and republicans alike working all day law and working into the early evening responding to some of the questions that have been raised and issues that have to be raised we will do our very best as we did till midnight last night all through yesterday to give opportunities for members to be able to  and to get an expression by the united states senate because the country expects us to take action and i am convinced that mr president that with the goodwill that i think has been expressed here this morning that we have a real opportunity to see the beginning of a light at the end of the tunnel hopefully by the late afternoon we'll have a clear kind of action about where we're going so mr president i thank  announce since we can certainly assume that it will not be enacted we will and announce a series of votes on these issues and will continue to move forward on the legislation over the course of the day  president you're back the balance of my time and is the vote on the coburn amendment first it is under the previous question under previous or the question occurs in the coburn amendment number read of rhode island senators voting in the affirmative baucus demand a lot and better senators voting in the negative brown cantwell graham gregg martinez obama mr grig i