that there has been a significant change in the markets for recyclables worldwide and has to do with what china accepts and does not accept essentially for recyclables due to that economic change the current contractor for the town's trash and waste recycling r t i belmont has approached a town seeking a contract amendment and threatening to discontinue service otherwise because they believe their contract is no longer feasible under under the economic conditions essentially what used to be free for most towns to recycle now costs a significant amount of money for collectors and processors of recycling not so much the collection part but how they get rid of the recycling we have tried to resolve the dispute and continue the recycling service as it stands now at a reasonable price for the town which a lot of towns are starting to negotiate with the centerpiece this contract lasts for another four and a half five months the town is already gone out to bid for its next contract and so this is is a split of what is now the processing fee for recyclables fifty fifty between the town and the and the contractor they had asked for one hundred percent cost to be paid by the town we pushed back  got that down to fifty object to a cap of forty five dollars per ton which is based on an amount that they have negotiated and the selectmen in walpole have approved as well and that means if it goes above that the town doesn't pay more than that forty five dollars if it stays below ninety which is twice forty five the town pays whatever half that is currently that's about fifty five dollars so we don't believe in the next five months will go up to forty five dollars but this is a pretty significant change as i said in the end that konami acts of trash and recycling so we wanted to make sure there was a cap in place we also didn't go she had to make sure that the contractor  provides a full accounting of their costs and that they're paying for processing so that the town can have assurance that they're not just being billed against whatever the contractor says it is but actually has what they're paying  if that is violated there is a reimbursement to the town so that is the proposed amendment we think it's a reasonable compromise of this dispute notwithstanding there may be arguments one way or another under the contract that the town  should not have to pay anything but we think this is a reasonable way to resolve this and avoid like i said disruptions in service and with a geisha thank you do you have anything not happy a second that in case it was the average amount trash so we get rid of a year we budget a little bit more on average because you never know for us for scene trash hikes or you know a disaster or whatever in town w looking forward to it you know me to everybody but that has something to do with i'm just going to take thirty seconds to discuss this too the idea of recycling so for example right now we accept glass but glass is not a recyclable in this market that we're talking about so we could ask people to stop putting glass in the recyclable because this contract is going to be based on ton the current contract is and most contracts for collection that's right so if the individual citizen wanted to help out reducing the tonnage for non recyclable items would would be helpful is  i will have to say though that the state of massachusetts recognizes glass as recycling there's just no value for it ok so in this context would be our decision there is a value but it's a negative value of x which  for with our next collection contract that we are currently in the goshi sions or now there is a comprehensive education outreach program there we're going to be launching as soon as we sign a contract i think the new barrels would be good if they said you know i'm saying i hope the board does not vote no but i'm saying i'm going to vote no percent split that i mentioned the requirement that they give you the invoices the have a note that the contract will continue to collect recyclables using the door stream method but will process them a single stream so and i think there we also made it clear that this was ultimately the board's decision because we were displeased with it so i think it sends some message and we can convey that message i think it's also not just for this contract or for anyone trying to is completely flipped and this causes a lot of changes in how recycling is processed and collected that being said on september twenty fifth the board voted to do as part of the r p a service for dual stream recycling we had bids come back from four reparable contractors and one of them we had to omit due to they were not qualified to do the service and the other three had a fee for single stream recycling only they had asked us in a pretty big meeting about if we would entertain single stream because we specifically asked for dual stream and we said that we would entertain it but we strongly voice that we would like to keep our dual stream  shortly after that i mean we started in the letters from r t i in the rest as i believe everyone here knows what happened the dual stream market is no longer a service it's no longer an option to process  recycling it is being all it's all being converted to single stream at the material second facilities the murders that being said they're investing in a single stream because over ninety percent of the communities in the boston area are single stream there's only a handful of dual stream and as far as i know there are with russell disposal and we have all converted to a single stream ok adam just so that people understand we're talking about when we had the big trash meeting back in september and we talked about the various things we the various options in the contract the one thing we were going that we said we would do is keep the dual stream where you separate your paper from your other recyclables just correct me if i'm wrong in the very simple summation of it is that in fact that doesn't that's that method of trash pickup doesn't exist anymore for economic reasons and now all the all the bids we received even though we put out for  single stream only meaning you dump everything all of your recyclables the paper and everything into one large bin and they take it as one whole thing so you don't separate it out any more facts and we didn't put it up to bid that way but that's just the only way the bids came back as the economy has we separate our cardboard and we have the green bends so what do we do now under single stream dual stream is going to continue for the next five months is that correct ok we're just going starting we're talking about july first correct what happens to our competition in my neighborhood these a v the cardboard in the recycle no one's going to put wang wine bottles in the recyclables anymore but  looking at a ninety six gallon container for recycling every other week and if we were going to do menu of all recycling collection it would be the way you're doing it now just everything in the containers mix together it doesn't matter or you can separate them they're just going to throw it into the the the truck as a single stream so i'd say i do what they're doing now i do i do want to caution though with that because haulers are there they were pretty adamant of the fact that we need to convert to single stream because of the added work i would say for the for the for the collector instead of grabbing two containers or three or four containers that they would prefer to just grab one and throw it in for efficiency reasons that being said and i know  i am an advocate for automation i know there will be another container but for thirty thousand dollars more the town can go automated single stream recycling and make our complete collection this is a five year so the question is would we think that market is hard to predict market conditions so that three years to stream is now an acceptable recycling method they are never going to go back scope of the request for proposal for solid waste collection contract to see the stream recycling i second for a second reluctant vote on trash if i could what i want to  seven c like cardboard street if the weather is severe the event will be rescheduled to february seventeenth you may recall we had to reschedule the last one several times during the weather please only oversize cardboard that was flattened no wet or soiled cardboard second nomination papers deadline nomination papers for the annual town election on april third twenty eighteen for town meeting members and town wide offices are available now the town clerk's office nomination papers are due back to the town clerk for certification by february thirteenth two thousand and eighteen at five pm fifty certified signatures of registered voters are required for town wide office twenty five certified signatures abominate registered voters dwelling in the appropriate precincts are required for town meeting is always wise to obtain and provide at least twenty percent more signatures than the requirement to meet the certification minimums third that license renewals are due but i want residents may renew their pet license for dogs and cats online and up to date rabies vaccination must be on file the town clerk's office in order to renew on line alternatively may renew your pet's license by printing the pet license form found on the clerk's web page and mailing the form along with payment and up to date rabies vaccination certificate to the town clerk's office fourth the pet license renewal fees for two thousand and eighteen neutered spayed twelve dollars per pet nine dollars if the pet owner is sixty years age of age or older and altered thirty seven dollars per pet thirty four dollars of the pet owner is sixty years of age and older and i wanted to add that the traffic advisory committee is meeting on the sort of the traffic issues we discussed last time changes that could be made to the town in general that were like understand you have a presentation and i invite you to all introduce yourselves for the public we know you are certainly thank you my name's tom gibson i'm the chairman of the belmont retirement board and tonight we come in and provide some information regarding our two thousand and seventeen investment returns which we are pleased to report were very decent this year with the  wonderful i ran into robert today i was walking my dog he said it was great so for the public's information we're now at ninety concord avenue on the third floor plenty of public parking on the street it's very accessible to handicap accessible space has worked out fine we've had our first formal meeting there and this garden joined us which we were very impressed that she was came to us our first meeting and and thank you very much patrice of coming to that so anybody wants to come in and visit and have a tour it's it's modest of course it's much larger than we had in the basement or the first floor should say here it's the three working office is a live waiting area can't blame the traffic any more for being late for us ok so let's hear about the good news no the when we did the funding schedule in two thousand and sixteen we reduced   the actual plans performance and how it correlates to the actual return that you just mentioned we have a handout that was passed up and then on page three of the send out we have the chilling performance year number and you can see that the pension system is up nine percent over that fifteen year period the composite of the return of the composite is the return of the pension system policy and so the policy index is the structure of the pension system so the way that you create a pension system or benchmark for a pension system you have the policy index which is the asset allocation so just for simplistic terms sixty percent i put these forty percent bonds and if you just calculated that based returns with and then you take the difference of that with the composite to see where it's true value out of the managers in the portfolio ok page two is currently are ok so page two it's currently the systems as allocation this is actually as of twelve thirty one of two thousand and seventeen at the most recent retirement board member was actually approved change to the asset allocation and it was a restructuring within the equity portfolio to ask for much more i guess so we're we're both the fifty percent of what we hear over fifteen years fifteen years you're in the top percentile yes took a ready problem and it's right it's ok to brag a little bit yes well if you want to stage us we're going to do a press release but that's quite alright no no we don't want to let you but when we do do your press release doing a release a publisher two different things as you know we like to put out a little blurb that this is for our members and beneficiaries and for the public to know that that you know what our returns were we don't like to brag because next year we could be down two percent down three percent we don't live on every protect any particular year's returns it's a long term numbers but we are concerned but as you know what's important is if the return is above the seven point five percent then the liability doesn't go up but that's what's important to us because we're trying to manage the live bill as long as we get our contributions from our employees and from our employers and we get the investment return that we need and we will be would be interesting for you is that the way it's structured now the pension fund pays off and twenty twenty nine and then in twenty thirty the twelve million goes against so and because of the reduced liability then the open structure or strategy actually works and pays off by twenty forty one so the town is to be fully funded with that town but time frame which is which a great outcome now i understood we restructured the the funding schedule in two thousand and sixteen we did yes but that was with jim sloman who floyd replaced avenue third floor any time come place what is the timing on that well because of certain gas be issues that have come up with a cast past couple years that seems to be on an accelerated  past you know the fall had been the time when it was was ready up to after seal had done their analysis of the data because it sets the funding schedule going forward from fiscal year twenty right  so this year i need to talk to kathy about this they will be i think somewhat compacted schedule to get that fit that not get those numbers up so that that discussion won't take place before town meeting that look at the data determine whether we're going to further reduce the soon brave investment return issues right now are you could you always compare yourself to your peers and the best in returns are on a downward encourage boards to go to seven and a quarter right now but i'm not sure as an appetite for that but that's certainly discussion of them was going to have you know that that wouldn't break the bank and we were fortunate board and we're in the process now of of reviewing the contents to make sure they're accurate because as you know their time a lot constant changes that we want to put in and steal information up there that may miss mislead people we're also working on a newsletter this year for our members  beneficiaries and that's a great means of communication so we'll continue to do it we do collect contributions to manage the investments and in pay the retirement benefits you know in the monthly don't we do in and more so one of the proposals was approved in the other three were not do you expect to bring those back this year how are you thinking about well we've had discussions about the strategy  back again or is there can be a different strategy different approach that hopefully can meet with some success well that was one reason why i suggested that we have this meeting because i think it's necessary for us to meet with the retirement board more often than once a year i also think that people have to understand that just like well i'm not going to make the comparison to the situation that we're in with our contract negotiation but it's important for the public to understand that the retirement board is the decision maker on the funding policy and that in the past the town and the retirement board have work together cooperatively to do what is necessary as you know i personally think that you know we need to pay attention to the well being of our retirees and i think what happened last year was probably more of so i hope i know floyd is working with you i think he's the right person and we hope we can continue our good relations and we hope to see you all again congratulations on what was it fourteen point four percent yes to reflect yes net of fees that's you know you're doing a great job and it's not up to us to you know say anything about the management of assets because that's purely your space but i think we can say i think all three of us would agree that we definitely appreciate your ranking and you know we like winter so we like you guys thank you so unlike the commander in chief i can't take credit for the for the investment return on m and he also knows more about coyotes he got us and anybody in middlesex county this is true or more red line if you believe that's who they are and we've been sort of debating this over a number of meetings the thing is now that the home rule petition passed on the restrictions our regulations need to be updated to include that plus the lottery change that we made we also have to update them to include that and it was just sort of avoid some of the the hard feelings in the process regarding the loading dock licenses some of these other changes were made so that that kind of thing doesn't happen again or is less likely to happen again so i mean i don't know here was to bring back the alcoholic beverage advisory board i took the language that had been deleted years ago put it back in and tweaked it but that was a committee that existed that just for the public to vet the liquor license applications sort of outside of the political sphere to vet them and make recommendations to the board of selectmen who would make the final decision and this is sort of my mechanism i think was a good mechanism to avoid sort of a loading dock situation mary you want to talk about how that worked that's why i thought might be good for you to come as you were on it and actually it was passed a town meeting on april the seven thousand nine hundred ninety eight and i have it all written here but it was allowing eight licenses to be in effect in the board appointed six pm as of the back of the committee each selectman had to and the board was check the committee to review policies and procedures regarding the issuance of licenses to develop draft policies and procedures by october first nine hundred ninety eight to advise the board as to appropriate it staffing and organization of the licensing process and to continue to advise the board as to appropriate changes in policies and procedures from time to time committee members were each to serve for three years except when they first got it you know to make it even and then what we did was every time someone had an application they would come to us and we'd educate them as to what they had to do and we worked with the police department the fire department the disability committee was you know to make sure it was handicapped accessible in those days it was thirty seven seats and one hundred whatever it was a big deal but now it seems to be a lot looser we did have some strict requirements and one of them was as you drive for example through the town of the center of dhamma you don't see any neon signs on blinking things or stuff like that and you don't realize there are a lot of bars i mean a lot of bars of people drink at the a but it had you also had to have a full meal when you drank that was in a rule that you had to have a me all he had to you had oughter a drink but you you couldn't just go sit in the bar and have drinks so it worked i mean it seems to work and i think some of the recommendations were good so i don't know how many ways and says you have now but then it was quite restrictive and each we met with as i said before with each restaurant owner and help them out as to what they could or couldn't do and transferring licenses really wasn't the thing it was you always had to have a say as to how that happened i don't know what else you want to know or at least think that's an issue that i mean we had to know the other thing was notify all  think it was political last time i think it was based on a mistake that was made in the motion in town meeting and i think it was based on a mistake that was made in the home rule petition and i remember marion being there being surprised that the license was transferable in our attorney advised us that the only consideration the board could have was whether starr markets was an acceptable body or not and you couldn't consider competition you couldn't consider the price you know your hands were tied in my opinion and so i voted on the principle and i think sammy put it that way as well so what i'd like to suggest as we have a lot of work to do tonight and i appreciate you coming marian but can we go through the things that that we all agree on and then we can have a vote on things that we don't agree on i mean you have my opinion so certainly like to hear the case now so i'm ok on page one this for the time just for a few minutes but i'm opposed to setting up a committee this is the liquor the alcohol beverage advisory board exactly discussed because i think we already have we've changed the licensing procedure  but i don't want to discuss that right now we'll come back to it with regard to the filing of application it says no license application should be considered complete and no such license application shall be approved by the board selectman until they're up to date on their taxes and why no i understand i don't have any problem with that but i do have i think the restriction on the board of selectmen is redundant because if the application is not complete then we can't approve an application it's in complete i think the important thing is to say that this is what acquirement to be complete i know it's such that no license applications will be considered complete right now and you know have you had it but you don't have to restrict the decision making of the board of select i don't think it is a restricting i think what it's doing is telling people that you can't your license is incomplete if you're in a rears on your taxes are going to get that lives not want him talking about that's what no such license shall be approved by the board just like ok good in then the application filing fee i mean a little confused as it seventy five don't know it was going i was proposing going up from five hundred to seven hundred fifty watts at the end it i don't know but the it seemed to me that from what might have got people clients paying in other places a lot more than that but i don't want to get into the situation where becomes a tax and not a fee because it's too high so i would defer to i was i was on fluids revenue opportunity fund i mean only for this is one of the points that i was trying to modernize the rules because this is an old number i don't think has been changed since the law a long time ago however one thousand nine hundred six however on the other hand it's not a subject was examined i my teenage it's not a subsystem amount of money be at least cover the cost that question i don't have a daddy and you know i understand so if we can we can we can agree to seven fifty and if not more we'll look at it again ok so what's next the next one i don't disagree i'm fine  with the comment there about the leaving the line right below there are about not apply not receipt someone not getting to more than two applications for a license in the same year for the same premises i guess i don't care enough to fight it i'm sorry were you that also a number right ok and i just to try to write down to make it clear to applicants what they need to do so you don't end up with a death by a thousand cuts situation that i'm trying to town council is recommending right now the town council is just saying it could be cumbersome to administer i don't know that that's clarify the sentence as i was reading it i thought some of the language was a little poor so while i was in there tinkering under the hood i tweaked a few other things what is this and this had to do with proving that the person who is applying has have to provide financial information usually three months of banks names to prove they have the money to run the business etc etc and this sort of pulls together stating exactly i believe the whole language was something along the lines of they had to provide financial information sufficient to the selectmen or something like that this actually says three months of bank statements in the good standing stiff you get from the deal warren something if you're corp you have to get good standing for the secretary of state that just sort of telling again i don't want it to avoid the death by thousand cuts and to be totally clear to applicants what they need to do i actually wrote what i thought when i usually end up having to do it in their communities to be honest when you don't consider it to be burdensome i don't i mean the only comment here is let's discuss it it's not no so i don't think so i'm not opposed to it because it's a list of things that need to be done i think why should it be subjective but i think giving someone a list of tasks and they can check them all off is the way to go are you ok with i'm fine with it is ok and then let's go to page fifteen to what is this plan stuff they when you do the review an application you have to provide a plan of the proposed space like the restaurant or the or the store so on leonard street they'd have to show a plan which has curb cuts i believe that's our that's our i believe that's our current language  comment right here by adding if necessary at the end as there comment was not every applicant has to go to this even if necessary right so if you have to go to the c p a fine if you don't then i'm not i wasn't intending to make that a requirement for us ok got it but if you have to go to that is that clear  has to do with taking unfinished wine bottles out when they're so you know how they are sealed under the law right now we don't have a provision for it but the law does allow it i don't have a problem with what patrice is suggesting that i don't either so you can put that in ok so we agree on everything except the committee have pretty much the bones of something here the only question outstanding is whether you want to have the advisory board or not we could pass this without the advisory board and continue to discuss it or we could do the advisory but like the idea and by your board may i just almost like the traffic advisor community they can't we when that was formed many many many years ago the the tac can do nothing more than just make a recommendation as an advisory board  advisory board was made all right in the reason was we had the town administrator doing a lot of the work and the assistant had administrator doing a lot of the work that you were saying and to have independent residents stepping in and clouding that issue was it was requested by the board of selectmen to all town committees to look at the accomplishments of their committees and determine if said committee should be dissolved or extended after careful analysis of the accomplishments committee and likely needs of the foreseeable future the chairman recommended to the board of selectmen that the committee be resolved and the selectmen agree but may i just say that that was intro the committee was never called never asked for their opinion and as you as as you just what i just heard you say just what it did for me now is that will appoint five members i think it could create more of a political situation i guess the question  this earlier yes yes when do we normally do this we normally do it normally sometime between december and well really this is not too far off ok but the reason that this is later is only because of the tax that when you're less busy if that time ever occurs i'm happy to sit down with you and give you any more background detail i see questions at any time you vailable and i would invite anybody else from the board with with  project was very very supportive and has been so since we started but two thousand and five we are a project of comcast really and the boards like men and like in two hundred towns across massachusetts we are nonprofit that nine after two years search we had some excellent including angela some excellent founding board members who really did a fantastic job of getting us started and taking care of both the finances and the organizational structure and all of that so and so we work with across all departments of the government all the parts of the schools residents in the business community to both provide training programming and production services on our local access t v channels and that's over comcast horizon the funding for the belmont media so s each year so that's where most of the funding comes from some of the funding comes from membership comes from donations and so forth last year two thousand and seventeen our total funding was six hundred thirty eight thousand i'm sorry six hundred and five hundred forty eight thousand was the total amount of funding that we received our current assets right now are six hundred thirty eight thousand significant contribution to the to the belmont athletic field for the for the press box and so forth so we spend about one hundred thousand dollars a year of capital it's it's a  very very good financial conditions have just signed the contract with the rights of a ten year contract with grayson and we are on the knife year i guess we have one year so we have nine years left on the  happen but you know we have increased our outreach to the schools dramatically we hired a fantastic training and production coordinator she's done a marvelous job we're working with a butler school high school belmont sport and recreation department so we're basically providing direct services to all those organizations and creating classes and that's been a great thing we're also became part of the steering committee for the community education so we're shaping that and helping to provide resources and expertise in that area as well and then technologically we've we're upgrading most of the venues where we need to be for recording and telecasting we did all the audio here we're next be put in high definition cameras in here and upgrading that system we're doing that at the beach street center where i know some of you go to the meetings there the p a systems on the ground on the floor we're putting that up on the wall to both laminate feedback and give it better reach we're also looking at the video system there as well and then as i mentioned we're looking at a completely renovating what's in chancery to make it into a more modern remote television production venue so that more meetings could take place there and be televised with a little more sophisticated look into it so that's really our plan there and then we're on the sports because what we did at the press box where we were able to extend the fiber network to that location we're looking at how we can do remote production from the press box through the fiber net so it's a little more complicated but we're we're looking at that as well even though it's very small we can put in remote cameras and control those cameras from only so that is down we started a example of cooking travel show which we did but that person decided to take take the production somewhere else we're distributing that program we're not necessarily producing out there but  we are increasing that little by little the biggest growth is in podcasting both video and audio podcasting and we have one student from boma high school who is on his own creating five different podcast with five different groups  high school students and he's amazing so i miss you he's kind of opened a door for us to have access to all these students who want to get involved and they can see through him they've seen oh you have the all this equipment here we can use it wow ok so he's got those folks and there is data center and the belmont journal we write a long long health goal is to do weekly news program and some of you maybe have seen it now but it's a weekly news program called belmont journal we have there's a belmont resident who's a former journalist from france but she lives here now and she had the most experience and she's the producer of that show now and it works with both the belmont tony and i had on the put my belt on but for his memorial hat as you remember we worked on a program to interview veterans and you know if you about sixty veterans and we turned it over to the government media center they were very helpful in doing the filming of the students did the interview was media center did the did the did the filming jeremy at the media center do the editing and it was it was a phenomenal piece of work and anybody that hasn't seen it go to the belmont media website download it it really has it's very very well and with that that help us raise a bunch of money so that will be part of the website that we hope to have as part of that war but i'll be back to talk about that later going to say two other quick things i want to just do a shout out to julie back here who's here you all know her very well she says it's really  and to let you know a couple of things in the offing we're working on a virtual reality lab be our video lab which is a trend now across the country for both for educational use therapeutic use and documentary production designers are looking to do a v r rendering so you could walk through the new high school and see what it would look like and that might be some good way to outreach with you so i could answer we we can answer questions and then we want to show the video at the end also i just want to when reading it i am curious about this forty five thousand and for revenue but is that that we had a capital payment from comcast every year forty five thousand and that's just sometimes they mail it in he's won several awards he has own drone photography company involved he did this video about the staff it's kind of funny but it's for the covers last year one of our staff members some of you may know him so jay johnson passed away in october he'd been with the media center of the entire time and he was a great asset what i tell you this very quick story this student i mentioned to you gilchrist from obama high school he's from kenya his family from kenya he revealed to me that e j has trained trained in the last five or six years and he said that that's what really inspired him to do what he's doing now to get the community involved was he jay's involvement so  doctor ok angelo i like to have teleprompter though you know but especially with frank credit you want to read it for a move to accept a gift of the man seven hundred fifty dollars from the bay state federal savings charitable foundation for the belmont recreation department sport program second and at their books in bloom opening reception to be held at the belmont public library on march second two thousand and eighteen from seven pm till nine pm in accordance with state regulations no one under the age of eighteen may serve alcohol and no one under the age of twenty one may my home on the list of significant buildings and ask you to remove the property from the list first they would like to say that they appreciate the hard work on behalf of the town that the members of the historic district commission do on a volunteer is to decide whether you know whether or not the historic district commission may have possibly made a mistake including my house on the recent list agreeing with me and saying including my house and the list is a mistake is not unreasonable or should not reflect poorly on the work of the commission further doing so in no way undermines the intent by law for the actions of town meeting the commission itself has basically said that we did not do the work ourselves that resulted in the list we used to consult and to have a big job of not only researching and making the list but in winnowing down and initially created list of six hundred properties to a select few the consultant basically in the end picked my family's house because she liked how it looked when she drove or stopped by and that's when she thought and her personal opinion informed as it may have been my professional training that the house should make the final cut making a mistake or several or even many mistakes in the small to face process would be expected we all make mistakes the drafters of the bylaws themselves intice to intice a paid mistakes by including the appeal process and through the appeal process provided you with an opportunity to correct the mistakes in addition the consultants opinion is not uniformly shared a neighbor who has lived in belmont for several years and his surprise at the inclusion of the house in essence said really that house the commission has also basically acknowledged that it did not give individual homeowners a meaningful opportunity to respond to having their properties included on the list it offered a fairly last minute meeting on april thirteenth twenty seventeen before time meaning convened to impact an owner's the notice of that meeting dated march thirty first twenty seventeen was the first time individual owners were given personal invitations or indications that their properties were put on the list and resulted in a packed room at the beach street center for the commissions meeting representations were made at that meeting for owners and then to town meeting that although no opportunities were available to discuss inclusion of a property on the list before town meeting this need not be of great concern to the owners or to town meeting members because the bylaws provided the opportunity to owners of listed properties to appeal after it was passed the appeals before you including this one are that opportunity in this context again i ask that forty three village hill road be removed from the list it is not a historically significant building it is a relatively new building haven't been built in or around one thousand nine hundred six and a small neighborhood in the shadow of route two from the street it looks like a reproduction of an english cottage not a new england the house was considered for the list because it was or is believed to be the work of architect royal fairy wills his name is on the building permit wills was a privilege builder and designer of homes there are no indication that indications that he has any ties to bomb and other than building several homes here some might argue that he may be significant to the field of architecture because through various means and a field where advertising was not allowed he brought architecture to the public through his own books and articles and through entering contests he made his own name he made his own celebrity and in doing so he raised his profession further even if one would accept that some of will's work should be saved or does designated historically significant i would suggest it should be a few cape cod style homes for which  other appeals a member or members of the board of selectmen have asked appealing homeowners why they are appealing or have suggested that there is no real cost to homeowners to the application of the by law to their homes i heard your questions your opinions first again factually i think my house should be removed and addition i am concerned because i believe that while i have no intention of demolishing the house that should we choose to sell it another possible future owner may be hesitant to buy our house with this restriction or incumbrance even if that person also has no intention of demolishing it our neighborhood is not an easy walking distance to our schools or shops or the commuter line our house does not have particularly high ceilings and it is not even very old no one famous ever lived there the restriction or incumbrance is not a political to all houses in either our neighborhood or in the town the restriction just applies to some houses here and there as a buyer why i picked this house when there are so many houses without the restriction of course for other houses the pros for a house me outweigh this con but for our particular house i believe the restriction will further limit the potential of buyers and possibly depress the price i am fairly certain that i would not have purchased the house if th had existed at the time i suppose for this reason having districts in town were all houses are treated the same or having a by law that requires that all demolitions in town be reviewed  preferably preserved may be preferable to this one every owner at least initially would be treated the same and review would not impact the sale it would appear fair or further although this does not apply to me as that as at this time i do not seek to demolish our house for those who would like to demolish a home or year of mortgage payments and taxes and fees are not signif significant these are real costs and concerns for the owner possibly in the future particularly given the anticipated upcoming significant increases in property taxes the real and potential costs of all or amended by laws or regulations on tax on town taxpayers like this one should be fully considered prior to the prince of the by laws or regulations i think that they all should be considered in the context of the whole picture and addition i am concerned that individual owners were not afforded a meaningful opportunity to participate in the process before the by law and list were presented to town meeting and that individuals have suggested that one of the reasons the by law passed besides concerned that the initial bylaw was going to expire as up only five percent of town meeting members are directly impacted by the by law as a result to me as an impacted owner the process did not appear fear appear quite fair i believe that residents should be fairly treated on many of the points raised in my statement we may disagree forty three village hill road from the list because it is not significant or significant enough to be included thank you all again for your time and your efforts on behalf of the town  identified five or royal barry wills houses in belmont looking carefully at those and in consultation with the historic district commission selected four of the five to inventory resulting inventory forms as i think it's in your packet for the village hill property then in the process of trying to call the list down  from a large number of properties to a number that would be acceptable to town meeting two of the fore inventoried royal berry will houses were placed on the list it is the opinion of the historic district commission that royal berry will meet the criteria for a well known and documented architectural firm  the intent of the survey was to fill in some gaps and to read inventory some of the properties where the information was out of date and some of and for example these royal barry wills houses were another example of a gap in the previous inventory i will say that the town of holmes book does discuss royal barry wills in a couple of places it also discusses th so was a hard call to come up with this with an acceptable list that you know multiple committees and boards could get behind and we had to keep it to less than two hundred and that is why only two properties and two of the two of the four royal very wealth i brought along you could pass this around this is a copy of one of the working documents that the h e c in the consultant used we had a list of over six hundred properties that she was originally looking at to try to cult the two hundred new in new york revised inventory forms she did and this form does list twenty four ross road and thirty five ross road both of which are attributed to royal barry wills and which were inventoried but ultimately in the significance ranking they were ranked medium high as opposed to high and the ranking of high which the village hill property got had to do with architectural character and integrity meaning you know had it been significantly modified on the exterior only  y we just like to say to spencer did a little calling of the makris list from massachusetts looking at royal berry wells as a whole and while it is fair to say that the colonial of los angles story winged colonial revival cape houses are what royal berry wills is most known for he did do a number of other revival styles like this english cottage revival style and those are less common so in fact this is a sort of rare example both you know in a collection of royal barry wills houses that are decide i want to thank you for the respectful thoughtful application and presentation i just can't get there in this place i'm sure if you watched our prior hearings you're probably not surprised i mean i set a very high bar to get off of the list that's been created by historical expert approved by historic district commission and the list that's approved by town meeting so it's been through multiple vetting and that we use e p a money to hire the expert to create this list and call it down to of properties that we felt as a community were important i do think will's is a master i can probably only rattle off five to ten architects off the top of my head but i can rattle off world very well as i have heard of that  one i don't know why this is why this is the second world barry wills that demo delay removal case we've received i guess he's not beloved in the town of belmont but nevertheless it doesn't make him any less of a master architect as you said looking at the paperwork it's clearly a rare example of his work which i think if we lost it would be a loss to the community textural community not just belmont and then the of course keeping in mind the minimal impact of the demolition delay in general you can still demolish does have to wait  this is an impact of any sort on anything and i think we've we've gone through this argument before and it's a great house you have it's really what i think is very cool looking and i think you'd be proud of that i'm glad that you don't want to tear it down i don't think anyone else  it down after what we saw happen with the church and coach in waverley square and what we saw with the of the clarke house i would like the whole point of this demo delay was to stop that sort of thing well thank you adam and thank you miss watson for the respect presentation i don't see i agree with adam i don't see any compelling reason to remove this from the list it's just it's a way it's nothing it's not a i don't know you understand it to be a permanent restriction but it's just a delay in demolition that's all this really cancerous i don't support th first is if if a property owner or a developer files a demolition permit for a property that is on the list the historic district commission is notified and the historic district commission then holds a public hearing a butter's are notified and at that public hearing we solicit feedback from the community about the importance or the desirability of preserving the list the historic district commission discusses it and the just historic just district commission first votes to determine whether or not the building is preferably preserve the second piece is then whether or not to impose a delay period and the historic district commission has significant discretion in how that delay period is imposed we generally would impose the probably you know impose a delay period but in that twelve months the property owner or developer can come  the commission and work with the commission on alternatives that could save all or part of the historic building and so if the historic district commission feels that the property its his or her representative has done their due diligence explored all alternatives then we have the ability to shorten the delay period and in fact one hearing that we had for the in the previous round we waived the july period because there was a health and safety issue so the property owner came in with a stack of studies related to have radon and so forth and we felt that we affirmed that the the building was historically significant but we waived the delay period and i've also you know procedurally as i handle these cases now other communities i've had cases where the structure of the building was so rotted out that the building could not be preserved it was going to fall on its own if it wasn't demolished in that case and store group in that town allowed the wave the rest of the demo delayed period or you know there are cases where they allowed people to save the molding and door knobs and other special not yeah so at the end of the day if this were my house and i wanted to sell it could i come to you and say i want to sell it yet when we have no and that starts the one year no it we know the historic to destroy commission only gets involved if a demolition permit is filed it has no bearing on whether you sell it whether you want to renovate your kitchen whether you want to put aluminum siding on whether you want to swap out your windows whether you want to put in new big addition and change the character  we have no involvement in anything other than the demolition permit ok when i was in banking our proposals could be longer than seven pages my proposal is seven pages i'm thinking about this and if i'm worried about this demolition restriction and i want to sell my house i could file for a demolition permit and start the one year process that that is true in fact iterate not that that is true this is them but i mean i could do that you could do that that if there's nothing in this bylaw that prevents that as a c all i have to do is file the demolition yes and then your expires i can put it on the market yes although i think there is i have to check with the building department but i think that  and the demolition and the demolition permit expires it stays on the list yeah right and then the second question if i may is at the meeting at the beach street center was there a reason world i wish we had had more time the challenge was the survey project was not complete until the and of twenty sixteen we did  hold and couple there were certainly public meetings that the historic district commission held where the survey project was presented we had a presentation in this room of the survey project very publicly announced very few people came in that happened in two thousand and sixteen it took a couple of months with the planning for it and the bylaw review committee and all the people who had their hands in the bylaw to get to a final bylaw and a list and we were unfortunately in a fast track to town meeting so it was it was a it was all the inventory forms were done we had two hundred seventy six properties with inventory forms and i won't go through all the arithmetic there but that's the that's the short answer  we started in two thousand and thirteen with six over six hundred called that two hundred new forms and then with the old forms and the new forms we had two hundred seventy six and then that there are two hundred that's right once the once the by law was approved by the attorney general the property owners had sixty days to file an appeal and so the time period has run that time period is a right others other than the ones that are in front of us some extent i would imagine that that's not you know normal process even if you had the time because with that we do in effect is leave the decisions to the individual homeowners which is not the purpose of the restriction know yeah in most towns the authority for you know designating historic properties is the historical commission or a start district commission in belmont historic district commission is both the historical commission and the historic district commission you know it's an interesting challenge with regard to the question of fairness because as as adam and mark will remember earlier it because it was every property built before a certain date and just because it was a certain age didn't mean it was significant in any way to not really want to agree with you and i and i my my point was look go find the houses you want to save or the buildings you want to save that are important rather than just randomly picking a date and that's what the commission did and that's why the list kept getting whittled down and i think if the fact that that this house and the other one that's coming tonight have gone through this willing process and the expert in the store district in town meeting approve the list i don't think it's really my place to say it's not on the list i understand that legally my place but i don't i'm not going to substitute my judgment for all the i think i think you know another way of looking at it is that sense there wasn't time for the individual homeowners to discuss the list and the dancer but you could say that anyone who took the time to make the appeal that that we should  them relief but then i think that flies in the face of the of the intent of it to begin with do you see what i mean i hear what you're saying i disagree with what it kind of the historic district commission represented to the town and t town meeting that this would be a meaningful appeal process and i've had the opportunity through development media center to watch the appeals and if as a citizen i'm not sure whether what the process was to be as represented is what it is what you're doing is it within your purview in your right but i think in the future should town committees represent to the public or to the town meeting that there is a meaningful process and we did allow one property to come off the list and say we've said no to everybody but the i think we've i've spent a lot of time reading through this there's a lot of paperwork here and i did reflect on it i mean it's the second row barry wells house we've had so i already had the background on that but i mean i i don't if you had a legitimate reason or you know as to why one of these criteria are met in my mind i would have gone with you but it's not i'm not movable but i don't agree in this particular instance that's appeal i have no objection even if you chose to keep my house on the list for you to take mr staples house off the list we don't know if we live with them about five houses of each other and i don't know if you hearing on it for the hearing i mean he presented his case i'm not sure what more we need to do i'm not changing my mind i think we've heard his i have read it i mean i'm happy to have him come here i don't i don't you know i don't think we should decide without him here him you know he's very articulate and we respect him of course we've now continued it now we'll continue it a second time this this next continuance whatever meeting we have third time which third time in which in which you will present the final appeal application yes vote if that's not that's what you guys want to do i just give up or trees you can continue it contingent on that's the last continue that's what i was saying i'm going to do that or i'm willing to vote and i just feel bad voting is not here but we have a hard time i appreciate jim your point of view because i feel the same way i'm willing the only reason i'm doing this to a continuance is that we have another scheduled me with more because it is an imposition on your time as a volunteer yeah better have to come and so since we're going to be here anyway for a demolition delay appeal  patrice how do you how do you describe the what happened at the meeting around the parking places so we had we had a meeting at the farmer's market and  mr foley and i had an additional meeting on friday with the important officer of the parking a couple of members of the because the belmont commercial district people were there to know this was just a staff to try and figure out how to that what was the issue i hate that kevin had in the in the belmont center if they did we so what we determined at that meeting was separate from the farmer's market there seems to be an issue with mr foley and the town and how the town provides parking for the business association businesses in the center so what we went down to yes we drilled down to there was an issue mr foley's concern is the farmer's market along  employees putting pressure on how he described it the core parking in that lot and they were looking for somewhere previous for the employees of the businesses so it would take the pressure off the core of the parking for the for the patrons and what we represent the people who own the parking lot we all you're asking for the same number of parking places that you had last year one thousand space and then kevin came in and said he had some issues with that thursdays but it's not all of the business so they get really i thank you for having the meeting with them i have to say i'm a little disappointed that they were using your good offices to leverage the decision that we were term of market i understand where i am too small amendment that we made on the first paragraph last sentence the date it should read wednesday may thirtieth two thousand and eighteen where where it says i think it says june fourth right now where where  i want to i wanted to comment before we vote because what will force is that the publication and distribution of the warrant is determined by the belmont general was in massachusetts general laws and except for procedural matters all subject to be acted upon by town meeting should be placed on the warrants issued by the board of selectmen so it's up to us to determine the war yes were however all requests to play suydam shall be in writing in each request shall be submitted as a separate petition because citizen petitions can be made to the board citizen petition warrant article signed by at least ten registered voters of the town of belmont must be certified by the town clerk prior to insertion in the n l town meeting warrant it is recommended that citizen petitions contain at least fifteen signatures to ensure that the required ten can be certified for inclusion in the article on the annual town meeting warrant so we don't need one hundred signatures for a citizen petition warrant will be open from tuesday feb sixth to monday march fifth which is almost a month and that citizen petitions can be submitted with the required signatures i think we're good to go motions on the table all in favor and you have to put your john hancock on to attend this meeting tonight we're very pleased to have the opportunity to present information on the housing production plan to you the board of selectmen we worked on this plan for over two years and that's not probably counting an additional two year effort that we scrapped a one of the most important decisions we made when we started out the second time was to make an extensive effort to outreach to the community together with the belmont league of women voters we sponsored four very well attended community forums to get resident input into our local housing needs goals and strategies we also did a lot of data gathering about both delma in our local region and we think that the housing production plan represents a solid plan for belmont's housing future so what is a housing production plan proactive strategy for planning and developing housing that meets community needs in also many but it also meets the ten percent affordable housing target set for each community across the commonwealth through chapter forty be are three elements to each housing production plan the first is an assessment of the town's housing needs we need to understand current housing conditions and then look at both the housing needs of the current population and their projected needs based on changes in growth and composition to that population we then need to set goals to assist with meeting the needs and stablish strategies towards towards achieving those goals some nearby communities that have already approved housing productions plus housing production plans include watertown concord lexington western arlington and brookline what's in dominance housing production plan first of all there's lots of data these workshops addressed issues that are of concern to our residents and we heard from our residents about the need for for example a housing options for seniors who want to stay in belmont  r we need to address the need to create housing for those who are frail who have mental and physical disabilities we need to address housing for young families who want an opportunity to live and raise your kids in belmont and we  want to then we need housing for people who work in our community but can't afford to live here like home health aides staff and local shops and some town employees why should belmont approve the housing production plan and foremost gives us control we set a proactive strategy determine the type and pace of housing growth by adopting the plan the community will be providing guidance and direction on the kinds of development we think are most responsive to our local conditions an approved housing production plan potentially put spellman in line for new state money i think we probably have already heard about the how the governor's housing choice initiative which will ward ten million dollars a year in grants to cities and towns that meet certain housing production thresholds and enact housing friendly zoning changes belmont actually meets the housing the production criteria because of the royal belmont and with some effort it's likely that we could meet some of the other requirements which would put us in line to be eligible for some of the state funds third by adopting the housing production plan we can contribute to economic growth in our region and state which is currently dramatically limited by the commonwealth housing shortage so how is the housing production playing get approved first of all we need to get approval from the town's planning board and then by  plan to the massachusetts department of housing community development for approval at the planning board meeting on january fifteenth chuck hart volunteered to be the point person from the planning board to work with the truss and addressing any questions or  concerns raised by members of the planning board so once we move through that process and receive planning board approval we will ask you the board of selectmen to approve the plan and although the board is likely to change this we don't know first of all i think they're viewing tomorrow or tomorrow night i believe the housing correction plan is on their agenda and we're hoping at that time they'll begin discussion deliberations about the plan and again we'll take that feedback and work with chuck about addressing those as the process is moving forward that's good to hear that's right now i'd like to turn over the remainder of the presentation to rachel heller so as gloria mentioned one of the reasons for doing a housing production plan is so that all my can really be the masters of our own destiny with development and it should be noted that we've actually made tremendous progress in recent years so we are just now three hundred thirty seven homes away from achieving the ten percent a standard that the state space and so that is where a lot of this plan gets to but we first like to give a little bit of regional context because everybody knows in massachusetts we have very high housing costs and dahmer is not alone in this our home prices in massachusetts were on average with the rest of the country in one nine hundred eighty but are now among the highest in any state and it's really because we slow down production greatly and increase the amount of space that's required her home and so this large like zoning had and lack of multi family development multifamily zoning has really was to a housing shortage that is driving up our housing costs so we now matter what ranking you look at we are in the highest when it comes to home prices or rents and this is impacting people across income levels it's impacting our economy and the governor has just set a goal of producing one hundred thirty five thousand homes by twenty twenty five and that number that we came up with comes from the metropolitan area planning councils work where they determine how many homes  needed just to sustain our current job base so this isn't even growing our economy this is just to keep what we've got we have people retiring from the workforce they are staying put that is wonderful we need new homes for people who are taking those jobs so that is a little bit of regional context and you can see if you look at the next five houses really impacting the massachusetts economy we have have migration happening when you look at economies that are similar to ours that are more innovation focused  we are losing a lot more people than we are gaining and when you look at the housing stock of these other places like portland oregon or denver colorado you see that they have much more affordability they have  to get an idea of what's happening with homeowners and renters here involvement and we have twenty eight percent of homeowners are considered cost burden here forty four percent of renters so this means that people are paying more than thirty percent of their income to housing and then if you go to the next five you'll see just how many people actually qualify for affordable housing and we have almost a quarter of our population that is actually eligible yet we only have six point seven per cent of our housing stock that's considered affordable and that's really after all of the development that's occurring is complete and people are moving in so right now it is less than that so in the next slide you can see just who's disproportionately cost burden like i said everybody people are impacted across income levels but when you look at seniors and families these are two populations in particular we have a lot of growth expected you know by two thousand and thirty six hundred more senior households will be here there's also a lot of families that continue to want to live here and move here and there are very few options for people whether you're trying to downsize are trying to get into a starter home so the next slide so the plan that we look at different strategies to making sure that we can hit those targets and really go beyond that and the way to do that in a place that feels like it's built out is to look at what we that there are i think it's important to look at the commonalities because we do have a lot of different types of people that are looking for similar things homes in more  near services and so you know we get into in the report a bit a real mix of homes that could be great for seniors but really a mix of ones twos three bedrooms that can allow a lot of housing options also river revitalizing preserving our existing community housing through great public housing stock we want to make sure that those homes are around for a long time and are meeting the needs of the people that are living there and the needs of the future and conducting education and outreach is really important that we involve people in the future of what terms of next steps we are hoping to get approval from the planning board we are very interested in their recommendations and then also here to get the parsley and to approve it as well but i do think that this is just really important for belmont for a whole variety of reasons gloria highlighted a few of them that you know puts a signature and control of our destiny it's really important for the health of our local economy for the massachusetts economy it's really important for diversity purposes  and it's just you know it's we don't want is uniquely placed between multiple job centers and this is a place where people want to live and we should really figure out how to help more people be able to live here with the high school coming it be kind of nice to share the cost with even more neighborhoods so you can help pay for it so that's a little bit of extra from the you know be on the housing from stripper this is great i mean i think we need to implement this to you know to create a path to avoid being subject or to be having things like the forced upon us rather than us as you say charging our debts as unusual right exactly and also so we always seem to be behind in getting state money you know whether it's that we're always we're late to the c p a and later the community compact we still haven't adopted complete streets this is a way to start to leverage the state money that we've been for going for whatever reason for a while i think this can really benefit them seniors as well in town to stay i think their last seen in this community that want to downsize the currently living in house and want to stay involved but there's no nothing available for them to do that and we were going to move to so i think that's great as well i'm the horrible housing inventory the interesting thing about though is that you know in terms of that neither rachel mentioned which is twenty four percent of the households one of my you know place to mention is that yes two hundred units count towards the subsidized housing inventor listed one thousand one hundred home floyd keeps talking about eighty five hundred taxpaying homes that's a difference of sixteen hundred ten thousand housing stock we know that maybe two families that going to mention that it was my understanding that the royal you know even though all of the units count that they're not really affordable and the same is true of the bradford no rhetoric only twelve units of the hundred  related the the town's assessment is at seven point three billion and that's three billion more than it was when i bought my house in two thousand and twelve which is a seventy percent increase in the value of the homes so i'm wondering you know i think we have to be to be successful we're go have to be very specific about where this housing can be developed if you look at the neighborhood i live in and i hate to personalize this stuff but i live over by the farm on my own road and you  know the property itself is not i couldn't you know it's not a huge property it is a corner but it's not a huge property so i in if i think about all my neighbors you know that you couldn't put two houses on their property is now so i'm not sure there's a lot of extra space in in all the different precincts or all the different zones you know where you could parachute another house in to you know the same property that's probably not the solution you're probably looking at different kinds of solutions that i think fund you've got to be and it's got to be very specific right in then in terms of qualifying for affordable housing i know people who qualify from an income standpoint but then if you're if your house is worth a million dollars and you have no mortgage you know by by wealth management and statistics you are you know you're wealthy yes so it is is the  based only on income or is it based on assets to you do look at assets but it's a very low threshold well at this point a very low threshold for how you calculate assets so for example it's based on the current interest rate and i i worked in public housing for a long time and at the time as a five years ago it was almost as zero percent interest rate that hud was using so if you looked at one hundred thousand dollars let's just say that you had in your savings account for a million dollar home you look at maybe one percent social security income actually you still might very well qualify for four wasn't ok so those were the points i wanted to make i understand there is a proposal underway for waverly square i so that you have to examine why it didn't happen when it was known for it before and usually it is nearly two hundred two times that there was an attempt to develop that and both times failed so i think would be great if we could actually look at that again or planning or look at that again and what i think we with a lot of the current administration's goals and you know it's not just the housing choice initiative but there's the open for business initiative that brings together and bta sites of mass development there's a lot of effort right now to do development around transit and we should really take advantage of that is where that we should have development and we can also get help from the state house has it has some assistance there i find in the last question for me is that the target is ten percent if you achieve the and here's why i would say that i work for affordable housing advocacy organization and the last been around for fifty years now and the statute itself has remained unchanged and really because a lot of changes have  their guidelines and to help communities figure out how to meet the benchmark there's no there's always efforts of our people who want to we with p right now overwhelmingly voters approved to hold onto it so the legislature very wary of opening up the statute because it really has accomplished more than any kind of tool for development in the states produced over sixty seventy thousand units so anyway the statute itself i don't expect that to change now it does change is the census every ten years and so a lot of communities actually try to be at twelve percent and because that helps to make sure that even as change is happening and more people are coming in that they're really appeal perth so that's kind of this and no matt you my first time ministers report these reports will be written for you we know you're meeting packets a company with backup documentation has allows you to read my report ahead of time and ask any questions you may have we guarding selected topic as i am sailing into the role of time ministry to these reports can vary in length and substance look forward to providing you with many ten mistreated reports in the future community compact as a board knows lieutenant governor was in belmont on january thirtieth signing the community compa  to do a point of a new system for the financial software so it gives various whatever the committee feel ok and then i also i attached some information on the concentra as well as their draft scope i have a monthly department had meetings which will be scheduled on the first wednesday beach month at nine thirty am the purpose of these meetings are varied from informational gathering sessions moral boosting and updates the staff on reg on a regular basis also any policy changes from the board slacken will be discussed at these meetings forward to the first apartment a meeting scheduled for this wednesday february seventh gr municipal association conference held at the heinz convention center in boston on january nineteenth there the governor released his budget for unrestricted government aid and chapter seventy funds attached to find the most updated cherry sheet along with chapter seventy summaries cherry she gets updated as good to see that yes it's definitely it's not down we have concluded department budget meetings and we're continuing to follow up with departments a was set to be released on february twelfth i will say that the superintendent reached out to me he wants to present a draft but to to his school committee tomorrow night and then a formal adoption on the thirteenth so that plays with the schedule a little  bit the want committee i will tell you spoke to the chairman they are not meeting on wednesday they are meeting february fourteenth to discuss the second quarter and also the c p c applications which is the same with the c b c is being discussed right so i don't think they can reasonably schedule their meetings on top of hours and then expect us to attend however i'm not going to be in the office at this time so and you have your pick of which one you want to get he doesn't care so i do care because i don't i mean the selectmen we can't talk to each other we only have our monday meetings that we can talk to each other and i don't like the idea that people schedule meetings on top of the hour here where we can't change our meeting  and so i don't want to you know rock any boat but that was a temporary scaled back ok and if it's a choice between returning back to the normal cost there was a resident who lives on cross street and i don't have her name in front of me or in my memory but i invited her to send a letter to the board of selectmen because that's how i like to do it because not all three of us get it at the same time and you know the town administrator gets it she did not do that but what she reported out is that once we change the parking regulations on leonard street all the sudden people are parking all day in front of center group but you know we have to know where where where all of these cars and up if we if we say ok you know you can do this and you know because they end up someplace else in front of other people's houses  board moved to revise the lottery conditions and it hasn't in brackets mark read detail the motion should the details motion be in the minutes where we twenty page four of october sixteenth because th yeah ok and then october thirtieth two thousand and seventeen page three it says the board acknowledged the work of planning board members who recently rained i assume that means resigned see the page to the next to last the paragraph that begins at the bottom of the board then discuss this article i believe what i said because otherwise it would make a lot of sense that is he spoke to other concerns talk about me there might be pressure from neighbors to rule a certain way and be very challenging to get good people to run an election only planners might run for the planning board i think i said only nine planners might run for the planning board because i don't think all the planners running would necessarily have been the issue i was trying to raise limited to future owners and it's like a period then a comma then a lowercase what i'm assuming that the comma and the what just make the sentence read it's all just a typo other than that the substance of everything was fine ok so i moved to approve executive session minutes of october sixteenth two thousand and seventeen they took the regular session october sixteenth two thousand and seventeen their job or third two thousand and seventeen the october thirtieth two thousand and seventeen november second