good morning it is tuesday right you know i don't confuse yes since i didn't grow up around here and i don't really i'm not sure if i got a good handle on gary situation i kind of thought it was a sign of the seven thousand people is when the mills took a crapper and that wasn't just gary i mean he chicago had sixty five thousand at its height and in one steel had twenty eight thousand employees at its height there down to about six five or six thousand and obviously people staff three or four or five kids and not only did you lose all those people but now people are having one or two so we've definitely had a population shift and a loss but that was number one and number two was just a horrendously run the city for about thirty years and it's evident when you look at the amount of money that the boats gave gary skogland hammon that if you had to put them in order hammond would be number one you can see where the money's gone with the new roads the new parks all the different things that they've done the money they've put in there already a what's going on it will flake what's going on on the lake front and then he chicago you can see improvement and then of course you have gary where you have an individual it's in jail or went to jail because it cost three times the amount to build a ballpark and then there's just been see very little improvement with millions of dollars from casino money so you have all that and now you're trying to dig out of it and then you throw that was number two mismanagement number three is when you went to the one two three property tax cap gary's businesses were paying eight percent so now they're paying three so that's five percent less on all valuation that's an enormous amount of money that they have that has been reduced from their daily coffers and that would be very difficult for anyone to bounce back from but also you know with the fact that they have a comments about those people that don't care over there and why would i want my money to go there and i mean i understand wanting your kids to go to the school district and the money to you know to be in the schools where your kids are going but at the same time it's gary you know if money goes to gary or the region you know it's like doesn't that benefit all of us i mean i just you know and and the comments of those most of those people don't care you know it's so those people again why would i want to help them you know that was suze point is that she wanted her money to stay in her community what's wrong with that jean well you know it's like like i said i understand it with the school systems definitely i mean i moved a monstrous on my kids that have good schools to go to and and i understand that point but at the same time you know like pulling resources and cutting down unnecessary cost can help us all you have you see i think you see if if we were to pull our streets apartments and take care of all the streets as one thing in lake county i mean you would just break down all of these street departments said have a bunch of leaders and i mean they're making good money and they have good jobs all right let me ask you question there seventeen different communities if you drove through seventeen different communities today and most of them had similar amounts of snow would you give them all the same grade on how they plowed no not at all i would give one stern a highland and i'm just saying where i live i am completely happy and the people from the town of months are coming and this comes from a guy who ran against the group that's in there the party just in there i give them an a and local services in monster and i continue to live there and stay there because i think they do a great job there are people are people that you know want to share i didn't say they want to share we we really do share many facets you pay your lake county tax that pays for the courts that pays for the jail no i want there to be more communication and working together i think it's happening it's being forced to happen jim haven't we seen that i don't i don't really think that we're we get hurt the most is on attracting business to our area what we fight amongst each other for spots well not only that i mean there's just no cohesive plan to make it palatable for large companies to bring all of that i mean all you got to do is drive west on the or eighty eight are even eighty just drive west of the city or north of the city company after company of glass structures but i think that i hope that's never happened i don't but that's starting to move that you know where we're coming what do you mean we have a huge lot over here at kennedy and and the borman and the only really the only thing they can get is a restaurant a hotel and  brewery i mean it should be a big glass nobody's wants to nobody wants to come here we don't have a cohesive structure around here to make economic development that's the biggest part that hurts us the housing stock that's built around the areas you're talking about are higher end housing stocks where when corporations come in they bring their corporate people you're typically talking about almost everybody in the building doing very well or making six figures they want to move to communities where they're going to live in homes that are three four five six seven hundred thousand dollar homes where we don't have that and there's a whole bunch of areas of the region now where mostly people from illinois of come down with big money and have built starter castles all over the southern rim of the central rim of this county well i don't i don't buy that one anymore you're going to be on with matt and that's what he does for a living so you can ask him why is that way because his company gets paid to bring people in and we do have a beautiful piece of property right there and it's been vacant since they knocked it down and i know that was during the recession and everyone was contract ing instead of expanding but now we're at the point where people are making some moves we had last more tap and they don't have the financing why is it that a very vital piece of property along with the probably the busiest yes ancillary to a seventeen communities and for some reason we're not able to or track stuff that just comes ten miles to our west it doesn't make any sense and part of it is and i think it's because of our structure but then again who wants to live here bunch of people in illinois i keep moving over here because it's so nice to live here less less or taxes less or taxes and you know your police chief you know your guy who's ahead of streets all of that in a community charm is what i seen that bus go up and down broadway all day long you know and i remember back in just you know late sixty's early seventy's when hammond had their buses and now they've got the north township trustee job to ride you know all the drop people off over there so what you're saying first of all gary public transit corporation buses could soon travel to produce callo hundred sixty fifth street all trying to highland maybe north ham and all over the place from gary saying you've got two different issues you've got what happened in hammond how come hammett couldn't afford a bus system i don't know what the answer to that now you've got a second issue of these new buses that are going to run from gary to all sorts of areas around the region and then back to gary so you basically are saying you don't want a bunch of people from gary being tracked all over the region that's pretty much what i'm saying you know i mean i've been to gary i worked in gary for the last drink with a guy that's telling you the truth than blown a much a smoke up yeah he lives in a certain area that he doesn't want people from gary to be able to take a bus so he's got a lot of people that don't want buses coming into their community from anywhere now i happen to be a person the ice is some jim when we we had problems and you probably remember that you know my father's health and being laid off i took the bus for home from bush many a times and used to have to go to downtown hammond and then it would take me all the way and drop me off right by my gum rewards and then i'd walk home from there and that was sometimes my right home and i truly appreciate that that was available and there is other people use to be on the bus there are for those people listening there are a lot of people who cannot afford a vehicle that need to still do their daily routine so we need to figure out a way to do that i know franks jumped in with dollar jim and they're still i think a large void out there i'm not saying that that's the answer maybe we give tokens for businesses come in but we need to figure out a way for people to get around