you for stars community announcements port fest is going to be tomorrow all over town stages and you can go on the website org i believe to see where the band will be playing the cushing square festival of september twenty second in cushing square as the name would imply there's a gallery opening at the belmont gallery of art here in the home or building for rhythm and hues art inspired by music the opening is september september seventh from ten am to seven pm there's a reception on death of sycamore next in the street at first i know a lot of people reached out to me individually and i've relayed this to them but i want to relate to everybody who have not heard that the we're having a traffic advisory committee meeting is a traffic advisory committee i should stay next week september thirteenth seven pm we do not have a specific location yet it will be very will be in the town hall auditorium but please welcome the town website for that and they're going to be adding to their agenda take addressing the situation at the intersection of sycamore lexington the recommendation and that recommendation will come back to the selection and then we will discuss and vote on that if you have comments regarding that intersection and ideas on how to change it please go to the tac meeting the traffic advisory committee on the seventh on the thirteenth of september at seven pm and then please come back and see us when it comes back to us from the traffic advisory committee because we would like to have your comments on that please rest assured we are definitely on top of this we have been actually dealing with them some of these troubling intersections over time for instance we recently did changes to mar street and winter street before there was an accident there because we realized and glenn's been very heavily working on this that it was a problematic intersection we also recently adopted the complete streets streets program from the state to get funding to improve our intersections and the idea is that we've been working on this plan for mamma to get get a list of these get the complete streets program going which we've done then to get a list of the problematic intersections then later in the fall to have a public forum to get comments on intersections and then to prioritize those intersections and get the funding for doing them and then to fix them in order of priority that's been our  plan and we are going to continue on with that plan so just rest assured this is not something they are not working on we actually are working on it have been working on it will be working on it and i urge you all to come to the form in the fall about the trouble intersection so that we can identify them  adequately prioritize them but it's one to let everybody know that's the schedule and that's what we're doing that we are taking action on this very serious issue but with that obviously all are welcome here this morning if anybody would like to  speak we do limit the speaking to two minutes a person so but if you'd like to come up to the microphone and give your name and address and speak your piece on any matter that we're not talking about about that and anything other than the committee appointments tonight whether it's traffic whether it's anything morning tammy kali's twenty nine walnut street thank you for responding to the situation that we are all very concerned about i have two questions you mentioned a number of times in your opening statement about the complete story program policy intersection and while intersections are very important the streets leading up to the intersections are also tremendously problematic as in this situation cars can get up to very high speeds before they get to an intersection and i want to know what belmont is doing to address the streets and not just intersections and the other question that i have is you mentioned that the traffic advisory committee will be making suggestions and i'm greatly concerned about the qualifications of the traffic advisory committee and what professional development is happening what skills and knowledge expertise degree is to the individuals on the track traffic advisory committee have in order to make recommendations that keep belmont str get much streets to be safer especially in the bottler neighborhood no thank you i did not mean when i said intersections to mean only intersections i'm simply calling that out because that seems to be mostly the comments we're getting from people obviously because of the tragedy that happened  has been working with them on other issues but when did you want to address with only to say that the traffic advisory committee when it's required and necessary work through my office to bring in consulting engineers to help us with issues  you're absolutely right the complete streets program is not limited to intersections the complete streets program is aimed at you know just as it says complete streets it's all uses of a roadway bicycles pedestrians motor vehicle the universe of projects that we would develop i expect going to have a cross section of different projects traffic calming intersection improvements sidewalk construction school walking route i mean i expect that the universe of projects where we quieted develop a list of at least obviously it's an issue of enforcement as well the police can't be everywhere so hopefully you know imposing as in some enforcement before that we do and there is a fair amount of it you know changes behaviors but unfortunately at times folks just speed and it's not and it's anywhere you just comment a qualification to me i sat on tax for i don't know how many number of years maybe it was nine i was chair for a number of years as well i work with time could soon as who is a guy who has predecessor i don't know that we were who remember now it's been so long this is a critical issue and it's what we've been talking about but the recent incident certainly highlighted i actually spent thirty minutes this morning on that corner watching what was going on spend time talking to jimmy the crossing guard there and getting some context on it and it certainly is an area where you know the need need to be more attention paid and i think the right process is to involve tacking to go through the steps that we're going through and that is exactly what going in the group is recommended in i kind of work in other community is so i appreciate the fact that where have adopted a complete straight policy and that the there will be fifteen projects i guess i'm also wondering how those projects will be prioritized and i know that you're working with another consulting agency on a prioritization process and would like to know more about that process to make sure that the limited resources that the town does have are used most efficiently i just want to make a comment about the twenty five mile an hour speed and there's tons of research that suggests that twenty five miles an hour is still too fast for a elder or a young child as struck by twenty five miles an hour there's going to be some pretty critical if not fatal injuries and i just want to mention you know yes we're all responsible for our behaviors but if say no because cars weren't mandated to have seatbelts when we were younger and because of the law and the fact that cars are now mandated to have seatbelts people are now wearing seat belts and that's what i'm asking for our streets in belmont to make it so where people drive that don't drive fast they'd have to drive slow because the streets are not as wide cetera to come as they were let other people speed by believe the reason why we lower we were able to lower to twenty five was the states changed the law which allowed towns to lower the speed limit to twenty five i do not believe we can lower it below twenty five as a school zone you could you could create special speed zones there is a process  s municipalities to do that the special speed zones that were developed in beaumont several years ago one of the reasons why we have still have thirty mile an hour postings on some of our roadways the special speed zone recognizes a thirty mile an hour segment and twenty five or twenty after and fortunately with the new legislation that was adopted by the town it doesn't trump the special speed regulations that were in place before that so it's not simply a matter of being able to take the eighty mile an hour signs down and i've had this conversation with mast you'll see officials because it defies my common sense if you're allowed to go to a twenty five mile an hour speed limit why are we still required to keep thirty mile an hour signage on our roadways and the answer is because you adopted a special speed regulation on that road that recognizes thirty mile an hour if you want to take those signs down you need to go back and do the study that you did initially and demonstrate why thirty miles an hour is no longer necessary and then the other part as far as the question about how we're going to be prioritizing it well that's part of the process i described earlier where there's going to be a fall forum where we're going to be actually getting public comment and then you know glen and his people and track will be getting together to prioritize and bring it to us and we'll take it from me make one quick comment on that tell me i think you passed along the whale and traffic calming policies i thought that was an interesting model in and of you guys had a chance to take a look at that but they do outline a relatively comprehensive process for suggestion for areas that need attention and then the evaluation criteria for success for doing that and you know whether or not we adopt exactly that or some variant of that it seemed like that was something that this board will certainly consider as part of this broader and my understanding is that tac will be board has been a strong advocates of the community path we need to move forward with that we provide you know we've sponsored an application the community preservation committee for the strike that process kind of the you know the high school and we're good cars off the road and creating safer sidewalks in a crosswalk for folks to walk or bike so that's something i think where we need to continue to focus in preventing that you know more attention but the whole purpose of the public process is that i don't want to be the person prioritizing that list i want the community to be the ones apartheid's that list and so will we realign heavily on the community to attend those meetings and discuss these projects in you know we will have an evaluation tool for each project but ultimately as i said i want the residents to be the ones to see that this is where we want these resources directed you know past we had a fatality ten fifteen years ago there it led to the four way stop sign and as well as in time to the blinking light there we still have traffic issues there we have people that go through the intersection all the time both that and lexington street are cut through from watertown they're actually large tractor trailers that are coming down to shots that are coming from the mass pike and going through the e what happen when there are the traffic when the crossing guards are there for the school it calms sink down because they act as patrolmen and they slow the traffic down when that's not the case the traffic gets  worse people we still have accidents on the corner beechen white street not like we used to have we don't have been plowing into houses any more which we've had before that's a better thing in terms of the lexington street one that is a major cut through because it cuts directly through to triple zero road and you can go to a traffic light at repeller road and you can turn the difficulty they put an intersection on the corner beechen trip they put a four way stop there the police have been enforcing that pretty well which is great that people still go through that all the time which creates a problem when you when you go to the intersection of sycamore where this incident happened the grade is it is a slo and everybody speeds up as they go down there some people speed up as they go through the bumps and some people don't the bumps aren't well marked they need to be marked better so people can see them i would suggest i know it become a traffic issue but i would suggest that we put a four way stop sign there because people are coming across if you go in the mornings from seven o'clock on and i'm out walking my dog at that point we can barely get across the street there we have to walk up to the dunkin donuts and we have to cross there it's it's a chaotic says situation something needs to be done there when the school traffic people are there when when the traffic as you committee was you don't have to stick their head when the traffic advisory committee was looking at lexington street and the intersection of lexington sycamore two i think was about three years ago now you know the concern that was brought to the traffic advisory committee was the speeding on licensing street and that speeding was causing a lot of crashes at the intersection of lexington and sycamore so one of the things that was suggested was a four way stop in that location so i went up there  on an afternoon probably a two zero wednesday afternoon around four thirty and what i what i observed was that the traffic light that is at the intersection of lexington and church street that during that afternoon peak that light release is based on the timing of that light that late release is somewhere between ten and twelve vehicles on its cycle so if you can imagine ten to twelve vehicles being released to church street coming up lexington street and th stopping at that stop sign at sycamore street there's not enough time for those ten to twelve vehicles to clear that stop sign before church street releases the next wave of vehicles and so the reason this four way stop was not ultimately a recommendation was traffic stacks up past that intersection up the hill and when it opens up and opens up fast and when people are turning from sycamore from the watertown it turning against the the traffic are issues all the time because they have to cut into the traffic because there's no brake right and i and i understand from the traffic control point of view i don't know if they're smart lights or anything but from the point of view of a resident a precinct for walking there or even driving there and trying to get across that it's difficult and it's dangerous and something needs to be changed understood just as if i could just finish my thought and so the reason the four way stop was it was not recommended was because of the concern that the queueing would end up backing up wanted to pella roll in the afternoon and so in the interest of trying to address the speeding and the crashes in that location the raised intersection was the proposal right now that it raise intersections been in place for a couple of years i think when you look at the accident history before the table vs after i think the crashes have been reduced considerably and so the table is serving that purpose  but obviously now as mark pointed out we have an increase in traffic volume we've had this terrible incident with the with the pedestrian and that intersection it's time to look at the next step here four way stop to me is we know it can't be done but  be enough in my mind anyway i think the next logical step is that intersection for phone traffic signals those signals would be coordinated with what happens at church street to control the flow now it's part of what the traffic advisory committee will be hearing from the o car crashes yes you need to put traffic rules and laws that are going to prevent car crashes but what about pedestrians there's a lot of walking traffic in belmont and specially in the sycamore beach street wide street lexington neighborhood people walk and butler is a walking community i have met with an accident same intersection while i was driving and i get to the intersection in a second but if i may add an overall team so when we get to evaluating all this it is critical that we must wear the lens so what it means to be a pedestrian if you put a four way stop sign as you're very rightly said before a stop sign is going to maybe slow down this being but it's not going to take it over the visibility issue which might have been the case in this particular accident that there was limited visibility and if you put the walking sine what does that mean like a stop sign for a pedestrian so just underscoring the must wear the lens of what it means to be a pedestrian and what any that whole neighborhood is also a school area it doesn't really help and while the traffic is bad during drop off and pick up i can assure you the traffic does not slow down at eight o'clock on tuesday evening when i was at the memorial and senator brown's brother was there as well it o'clock full traffic didn't matter people were just zooming right in front of my eye mom with two kids standing on the side of lexington wanting to cross to come more and she's holding her guard she's waiting for the car she stop and that bomb is very confusing it's so confusing that when people start to slow down you think oh maybe they are slowing down for me but they're not slowing down for you they are just waiting for the b speed up this bomb it was literally a tragedy in in action she stepped out and his car comes looming by and she pulls her kids back two kids and a mom tuesday evening so we definitely do not want another tragedy we obviously know  that that intersection is particularly very very problematic as the gentleman here himself sat because when you want to come in from sycamore you're holding your stop sign the lexington street people are not going to let you go it's almost like a leap of faith ok i see them slowing down let me just get you feel like a mouse scaring literally i'm not trying to be funny you run across so that you can make it and not whole wish that they would not and god forbid if there is a p crossing at that time and there are many intersections in that whole neighborhood that needs to be addressed one thing i think it's important i know somebody said that the residents should be involved they should be involved however i think having a very objective methodology is very imperative because it could be the case of squeaky wheels will get the most grease and you know ok let's put a stop for a stop sign well maybe that takes care of the car traffic people will slow down it may not take care of the pedestrian traffic so having some kind of an objective methodology is very important i just sum up by saying we do not need another tragedy she has two boys eight and four they were there with me last evening nothing we can do will look into play is that but the least we can do is just make this just be we don't need out of the tragedy to overhaul what the situation in belmont it's a walking town people walk more and more people are coming into belmont because of the school system we're already proud of the school system but this is only go worse so thank you for your time and hopefully we'll all be able to help you in whatever help we can get thank you frank you for those comments we are so sorry for your loss as you can see we are we are moving on this and moving on this pretty quickly  everybody to go and state what you just said to traffic advisory committee on the thirteenth and then again when the traffic advisory makes recommendations back to us when we discuss and vote on it because we do intend to take some action on this  is using a transparent evaluation process for any complaints that they receive certainly there's methodology in place for the you know speed studies that they often do but it seems not it's not transparent it's not obvious how the decisions get made you can ensure that there is some kind of rubric methodology in place maybe it's the one that whalen has now this doesn't involve creating a new policy there are practices you can put in place immediately and there are also short term traffic calming solutions that can be put in place without a lot of money invested to make sure that some of these things that we want to test out and see can get going right away i was here a year ago making sure we have at least one sidewalk on it on any given streets in the whole neighborhood so it's it's been going on a long time and we dropped as you know the sidewalk passive we dropped it earlier this year to try to make sure that more sidewalks are done in the community path work the morgue was mentioning to get make it so there's a safe way to get through town without crossing intersections and all of these things that you know owens there's no magic you know there's no magic bullet for this sort of things that i know the methodology we're very much in favor of object of criteria but that said we do also want to get a public comment you've seen that with the incinerator site post closure use process we've undergone where we've had public and then we created an actual matrix so we could objectively analyze the suggestions we got from the public so i would sort of think of taking on that same sort of process but glenn did you do you think you're the expert on those i think that like you know i have spoken about this i think she's right i think the you know the tell why traffic study that has been underway for several months one of the goals of that study is to not only identify you know where we want to limit this traffic in terms of routes that it can take through because we have to recognize that there is a volume trying to get through town but the study is also going to identify places where we don't want the traffic to be and then they'll be a set of tools that are developed to allow us to keep the traffic where we want it to minimize the impacts of it in residents as well there's too many cars on the road and i think we've done enough we're trying to do it as at a mentioned you know for to encourage folks to walk into used bikes to create more pedestrian friendly streets if you will and i appreciate the comment  women made about trying to cut across a more lexington you know taking your life if you're here it is dangerous i tell you right now i see it all the time i think we have residency to do a better job i also think that perhaps we need to have ongoing discussions with our police chief about enforcement appreciate the comment that there was good force but there you have a limited number of resources but maybe we need to do more about that because the way to change behavior is you can post as many signs as you want people to still be the speed force the people still going to run stop signs but when you haven't for some and some of these locations some of these hotspots if you will i think it has a tendency to change behavior so i think we need to look at that as well i agree with you and i was just going to add as a last comment that i would love to see ther if we're doing at the high school subcommittee right at the planning board is involved i've certainly seen some of the regulations that are on the books not enforced that have to do with safety of pedestrians when people put up fences and bushes so you can't see backing your driveway if the kids coming along i mean if all those things can start to come together more actively between commuter development police department planning board what is the town plan with respect to you know we have developments going up plans for waverly square possibly in the works but what's the infrastructure plan to ensure that those folks are going to be able to get from a to b without another tragedy so and cut through baltimore we're not corrupt trying to create we're not everybody has to get is an environment where cars can speed through to belmont easily get to cambridge or boston quicker that's not our goals never been my goal when i s kate i mean the public comment i will close that portion of today's meeting next item is interview planning board applicants big possible re appointments of expiring members and make possible appointments of new applicants just to remainder of the term of mr sanderson who was the alternate to resign and so somewhere be a making an appointment to fill that rest of that term so what combination of how we appoint the applicants to which of those spots will have to do i should note that board extremely important board and we take membership in it very seriously which is why it's one of the few boards we actually interview applicants for we got a lot of applicants a lot of really good applicants we've narrowed it down today as far as we've narrowed down to four stars it can crawl haglund obviously are the two people being reappointed fueling chorale and normally maserati who are here this morning obviously think we know stars that can crawl hagel and we've talked with them before we don't feel the need to interview them but we do comments we also asked mr clarke to comment on mr starr's it to mr haglund and and what his thoughts were about reappointed because he has been working with them and then we can decide of the appointments but clearly we'll have four people for three slots so we're going to make a hard decision so right now i guess sobering the earlier discussion so hoping that we have a solution and i realize it's a different topic but i guess i would offer that i have concerns that the won't improve and as we make improvements to certain intersections it displaces the problem elsewhere so i would encourage us to think openly about it but anyway thank you for your and have always had an interest in serving my community so i've served in the past at st josephs church at the burbank school at belmont community education  meeting member and i stopped working december one after my mother passed away to spend more time with family and i am interested in serving in our community business skills planning skills and operate with a high degree of integrity discipline work ethic and full transparency and i think that those skills while not directly  know and so a lot of focus of the years of controversy associated with as well in terms of appointments and having qualifications to be appointed you have general thoughts about the planning board and some of the things that it needs to focus preconceptions i was interested in serving on committees to be able to apply myself and contribute in a greater manner than town me than say a town meeting member relative to the planning board i understand the efforts that are under way with projects for pleasant street waverly square and i'm seeing cushing square come to fruition and honestly i like what we've done with belmont center i like what we've done with cushing square a long long time coming and possibly a little too big so i guess i don't come with preconceptions i'm open minded and i'm strongly interested in preserving the quality of our town which i think and architecture are components of the character of our town so  hopefully have answered your question there is a critical role to sort of balance different tradeoffs i would say one of them on one hand is are property rights of the owner to sort of do what they want with their property the other is to balance the desires of the community to create that community and have certain standards and there's also an element of sort of a fish and sea going to how you move quickly quickly through the approval process you come at this with sort of any perspectives on that sort of ways you think you might want to push the where the money board a new direction or perspective and kind of how you trade off some of those those considerations i don't i have listen to planning board meetings online i was unable to attend last night so other than the handful of meetings that i've sin two i don't have enough experience to give an opinion or have a strong opinion on the way to push the board so again i don't come in with any beginning last year i started working from home that really you know my family gets really happy you know it brought lots of you know flexibility to our daily schedules and the kids mom for other one seven years old so up sites is that i have more time to spend with them but the downside is i might my social life so we thought that the best thin a different take on it you know is do you have strong opinions kind of one way or another on how you balance you know as you say the individual interest for the public image of property rights or is the desire of the community to have its standards and had you lean one way or another if you were to push the group in one direction from my engineering background if i learnt solving problems we've got interacting with public much we've got listening actually so so that you know by listening to others in non technical aspects of the problem so i think you know it will be another learning support for me appointed for the one year remaining in the term for the full membership last year so he's been on for one year and now he's seeking report for a full term and then of course we have to replace the remainder of the term of mr sanderson as the alternate so i guess you've heard these candidates serious but you certainly worked with ed and carl from just sort of give us your take on the situation well let me just tell you what's what's happening in terms of the playing board so i can put the appointments in context great we're in the middle now as you know we have one project one major project which is the bradford which is in the middle of construction at this point we knew all the technical expertise we can to help us evaluate what they're coming to us on and as i recall we appointed when we had the turnover last fall we appoint people with technical expertise last night we had the people from toll brothers came and actually brought us the physical materials that are going to be the facings on the buildings we saw the bricks and we saw the tiles we brought everybody from the neighborhood who was there to look at them to touch them and to feel them and one of the things that that was important on that is that we had there done there who deals with that all the time for mit we had edstaston there who deals with those things for mass development on a regular kind of basis in terms of the development of projects that get put in the ground and we had carl hegel in there who looks at things from he's a landscape architect but he works for the recreation  c are the does major construction projects all the time and they are well beyond my expertise in this they made valuable contributions we discussed that those those items actually that will be on the bradford will be in community development with the mock ups of what they're going to you know the pictures and as well as the materials so people from the community are going to be able to come and take a look at those materials in about two weeks we're going to actually be able to go to the site and they're going to be mock ups on big boards like the sides of the buildings and the expertise that people bring to those things those things that are on the planning board that help us make a material difference that's only one project the other project that's happening is we have a proposal we're in the middle of changing the zoning for south pleasant street we're going to put an overlay of an l b one on top of that we're going to allow assisted living which is being proposed to come in we also are probably beginning to talk about allowing age restricted housing there as well that's going to be a complex yeah that's going to be when those two things happen and i believe they'll happen within the next year and we're bringing this to town means talk about that those are going to be complex engineering problems one  is going to be the slope of the sites plus all the public improvements that are coming in place the community path is going to impact that the waverley square train station is going to impact that and so  coral are very helpful in terms of that have been a major projects a car with the planning board with mast development they've done a great job carlie's our landscape architect as well we don't have is giving other folks in this community a chance to serve i don't raise the point that karl has served since ninety nine with with not wanting to supply support him based on your feedback i do but we have to keep that in mind conolly that you know going on so if you want his i support karl but i just wanted to raise that point for us to sort of continue to keep that top of mind and it's a difficult thing to remove people that have served one time and served well and served well but there are other folks that do that and you see that in the people that we've that have been great cindy was terrific i was sorry to see him go and one of the reasons he moved the primary reason he moved is he couldn't afford to buy a house in belmont i mean you know that's something that we have alternate technically what the alternate does is the alternate can't dissipate in any special permit processes they can petition page in the discussion of that and when there is a planning board member absent the the alternate can vote in terms of that so that gives us so if we're doing a special permit check gives us five people to vote as opposed to four in the special permit process if you only have four people you have to have a union seven members so the we were trying to work together and avoid the controversy that erupted if you will and we appointed sandy now he's leaving i had looked at it said is a possible for us to go to a larger plan a board and i forget what town council so much work that the point you just mentioned that the police board is involved with and i know that the former chair was trying to get working groups involved in the some concern about whether you can do that because there's so much work that in so many qualified people have applied i don't know whether that's something we look at because i think if we had more members and this is true truck to be had seven members or one alternate you might be able to sort of create you know working groups or folks to look at specific position for me as a matter of fact i think i was the first one because i remember sam he did let me talk for a year or so used to not be an alternate that's right that's right the his i couldn't talk for a year i just had to sit there i could was both a civil engineer and an r and and i think that we're going to need some additional technical expertise on this the other thing for these projects that we have the other thing i would say given the issues that we have with the open meeting law and with some of the working groups and communications and all this i you could you could add somebody else to to the plane but i don't think that's what the thing is when we have talked with town council and our opinion i mean my intimation is that it looks like with this is more the work gets put pushed on the professionals staff and we probably need somebody else to share in community development in terms of things because you can have the planning board you know having a couple people meeting and doing things that is not a transparent process it just isn't the kind of work that my mind is actually this discussion last year during the twelve months that we emphasize qualifications in terms of things and we emphasize technical expertise and that's why we hired sed city planner architect development person that we appoint them to the board i think that's our president on this i mean you know my my position has been last year is the same as now i want qualified people who know they can add skills and do the work simply because community development is somewhat thin and so we're getting basically free consulting work and putting that i've noticed the residents as you see in this morning are particularly shy about that moment in the process no so i and i notice that the planning board so i don't think the resident position is not being resources and i concur so i don't know that i mean my my feeling from going through this and i happen to agree with chuck and i'm just on my same soapbox from the year ago it was i want i want to get people who are qualified and understand th e qualifications but i want you know if it's important as a mentioned top here folks that want to get involved we need to get them involved yeah and i think we've done that and i think we've done a pretty good job and we've had a lot like for instance we had one two three four ask the workmen to deceive someone to do it in elizabeth dion has stepped up from the committee reflect she is she told me she's not able to make it if she is out of town at the moment but she was very much interested she's an attorney she is serving on the she's been very very impossible appointment we had a big you can see on the housing trust that we had to still fill we were asking for additional applicants if we did get additional we'd already represent a point of joe's r o but we needed one more germy roman all had a point i had now has now  to find him a different landing space coordinator for the mass department of public health mass in motion which actually is you know somewhat involved in peers from all this is a recent college graduate so bring some youthful enthusiasm to it and like i said he seems he's worked for health departments and of our he's the only other can at the moment yes ok and i think you you certainly qualify and he has been he applied actually believe last year to the planning board and again this year and he also is applying for the one i appreciate based upon his resume meeting well we're going to talk you know the seventeenth review application for disability access commission a possible appointment this is another one where we were still seeking another applicant because the majority of believe it was a majority have to be either disabled folks or people with a disabled family member we had reese just appointed judy walberg we now have received an application from patricia groves who is a social security disability attorney my only child my only question with this was if we appoint her do we stay within compliance as to having the correct number of people doesn't mention anything about having a disabled family member being disabled but you certainly qualify this a disability attorney in the end not everybody has to correct but i just make sure we have the proper mix  understood is that mix required only in the full membership as well this is the only alternate position i give you that that point is well taken i think this is just for the alton i just i would assume to a pointer to be honest we want to make the appointment if it turns out that we have to clean up a mistake we can we can do that but i think as a three year term for the alternate but this is an alternate positions like the alternate position we've already filled the focus and i move that we appoint patricia gross to the disability access commission as an alternate member second i was in favor of i  schedule by meeting this morning and then we'll be back on monday night on the seventeenth at seven pm is it worth noting yeah actually we should note also that we are looking to have a short meeting six fifty sheen on the thirteenth of september actually that night that yes at five thirty that night the c p c is having a meeting then at six thirty they're having a public meeting on our off cycle application for the underpass so we're going to a very brief meeting from six fifteen to six thirty on which september thirtieth imitating a sonic men's room to discuss a time sensitive environmental application to the state and then at seven o'clock that night is the tax meeting on the at which will include the lexington sycamore discussion that had earlier was tentatively looking to be in the auditorium here at town hall but that will be posted finally supply to check the town website that posting is forty eight hours in advance so you can check on the eleventh and they will see where that meeting will be