inconsistent these that do not go to the heart of these silent planes are insufficient to support an adverse credibility findings under the ninth circuit law in the present case the immigration judge made an adverse credibility  that mr frum fina was responsive to the questions asked of him and he was hampered only at times by the interpreters problems translating and if you look at the transcript the immigration judge never wants to know that any unusual courtly fee delays demonstrated that his problems were on account of his family politics and so what that seems to me that even if you have credibility you have to get over that hurdle think what we have in the case of you is the on account of factors are met by the fact that his parents as he testified his father was active in his testimony looting they were looking for sources to fight markets and that they were trying to gain money either by taking over the diamond business or some parts go business for the mining in industries and attacking people and ho to find ways to gather arms to pay for arms and weapons and there i can't recall exactly off the top of my head but i think there were at least two or three sessions in their records that talked about that time one was from i believe in i journal and there may have been something else from the part of the statement are you saying counsel in this record that the i j a could not legitimately make that final if he did then you may have an alternative finding an alternative reading of the which i think we should move to that question i think that we we answered that by saying said see here issue of the credibility finding goes to the credibility of his oath mr fein of being able to make that linkage in this testimony and what that he had told them that he didn't want to join them because they killed his father because he didn't agree with their objectives and i think that that is some of the linkage answer and that in in our position becomes somewhat convoluted with the issue of the credibility fine because that credibility finding is running through out the judge's analysis that's how i think we answer that question well there's a there's in that they beat him because of that was and is testimony i think in part it was a little bit mixed he stepped it that was one of the reasons he didn't agree with what their objectives were he didn't state they were moving right for the country  for sure but he did discuss that endeavor and he said that he gave them the reasons that had several elements to what he said that he didn't agree with their objectives he didn't agree with what they did to its family and he was very you know adamant about not joining them and it wasn't until they become market forces through that he was able to get out of the ecomog how do you how do you say that the government that is responsible for that when they  farsi for years and that was discussed also in the briefing and there i think extensively on we talk about different sources from both department of state independent news agencies are following up with and and they do they go on the units you know there seems to be no all feeding for political beliefs or opinions really feels under that scenario but then he testifies it seems to me i you in here which i stated he did not testify that he was let go were released by the rebel forces ecomog which is not part of directly the government the commodity apparently is an east african organization through guinea and then continued on to the united states the other thing i wanted to stay closer to it so far is the asylum application itself the night circuit has recognized that often these final applications are prepared by people that are illiterate don't speak english and have a lot of problems developing their case if you look at the original of the asylum application a copy of it it's in the record starting about page to forty nine it was found by someone who apparently was maybe perhaps illiterate or squashed by illiterate i should say and the specific actions where he supposedly says that were there arguing that there was no women that he had no one in his family was a member of any organization that