but subject to your political benchmarks so work they're subject to the clause that relate to litigation in arbitration and also subject to other exceptions to take within so the interim award is what set out the actual remedy the final war is what now adopted this limited public policy exception due to the federal government coming in and conducting the parent practice investigation by basically excluding the local records commission from the process that i do not because i don't i don't believe that was as excluding the local records commissioned by the profit from the process i read that clause as putting you know the benchmark in place and identifying categories of records or elephant for discussion or whether they hit the certain benchmarks subject to all those is that there's nothing in the clause that i've read that says the city have you know do what it needs to do to comply with the as the reason ok that's a reason to give it similarly with the litigation he said for fear of this and his entire war which is why we think it's consistent even if you do find that there is some sort of public policy here city from destroying any record without following the procedures of the act including st attaining written approval for the local local records commission it also prohibits the destruction of records of historical legal research or physical about the local the state records act similarly regulates the destruction of state records and in that act the general assembly explicitly stated that pursuant to fundamental principles of american constitutional government public records of the property of the people and they should be maintained their benefit well in terms of defining the public policy and maybe i'm got this wrong under the local records they'll only look at local records act section eight does contemplate the destruction of records within four years unless certain research value or if they have that value should be maintained all you can do that is up to the local record commission to determine after the city is st made a determination that those records lack that value and submitted them to the local records commission for that reason and that's records mission that these records lack historical legal or this law if i understand the difficulties argument is that the arbitration award the way it was written allowing for automatic destruction of these records let me ask let me ask you this other file if you went through this process including submitting information to the local public records or terms of the federal courts could you not then go to the use you so there's a strong public policy and you're going to specifically related to this local records act but basically what you're saying is you don't want to go back to the local records commission because the city has made a unilateral decision that these records should not be destroyed that these records must be preserved and all cross in violation are of the arbitrators award and section eight point four i mean we do have a strong public policy in favor of the finality of arbitrators awards  decisions are based on the assumption of what the local record mission would or wouldn't do and the assumption that both the circuit board and the appellate court has just presume is that they would not destroy any of the record and here we're hearing from the argument we don't know what the local records commission would do or would not do i have each of these files as they come or because the city stops sending them to over i should never urged further destruction events because that's what they preach it was actually a point or so depending on how the commission ruled or the commission did a ruling indicated that half of the city you know conceded that these records should not be syllabi you know those we're dealing with transition this is dealing with how police officers disciplined promotional opportunities in terms of conditions are go