the straightaway section and it just doesn't seem like that's a very valid place to do a great study for the entire oh yeah it just kind of made me wonder about that  so you're asking or so so this is a recommendation we usually don't wonder recommendation of them because usually they tell us what to do and therefore you can say hey look the expert told us what to do right here in most cases i've seen that i've been here is we've gone on their argument  no we do what they say and but i can't answer your question about four wheel so that i can look up here question the legality part we can look up you know whether or not that counted on this study or not i don't know it would have counted on the it would trigger yeah and then you start digging you're doing that if you don't have to do it and then get here and say look it's all done right away get right on and be like yeah you'll hear you're really ready access if you do these x y and z things and then you come back you know then you're there you're on the location of the road that's been issued so in that respect the test was actually better form that could have been because it doesn't show the traffic on the main road it shows what's going on in class for a second that's an issue week with the town of jericho brian was there we're here give you a quick overview as it stands what you've been projected is a two percent budget increase for next year and  we did fairly well on our budget for thirteen fourteen the actual we had extra income there one thousand dollars for the sale of our old firetruck we did get some reimbursements from fema rushed over time and then the rent from essex rescue and then we had donations to only twenty three hundred a little over twenty three hundred dollars we were way under on the way under we didn't overspend on the volunteer the one storm we were under if we go back in the budget previous years there's been years of me been way over that because of so we only have one last year we're going to global fund that because that's not a typical year we usually have two or three if they're not an incident like that sometimes if it's not in a very public place will put some caution tape up and leave it but being right on pleasant valley road that was too much of a hazard  have we don't have exactly what we're going to do with that position just yet we want to we had corey for a couple years and we want to go back and validate that that is the right thing for the department in the towns or is there something else that we should be doing a different model of we should be taking or something like that and we'll come back to you guys here in the near future we're trying to get through our budgets frizzy presentation what was curious position quarter was our second full time person he was the share guy with  serviceable snow removal grass and stuff like that on the quite a few projects forest did a lot of meeting and stayed on top of things at this station for years so we want to make sure that that's the right model you hope that when you bring an employee on that it creates less work for you rather than more and i don't want to say that cory actually created more work for us but we've got to go straight what's the right balance and we as an organization want to you know are firm with ourselves that we have the right things that we're doing the right thing for both the aid type things you know call and have six or something like that we don't do that with harry harry stays in town all the time unless he's actually transporting somebody from town so that's the model actually has come back to for a couple months to get this all long term plan where are we going what are we doing we as an organisation have to look at that when we brought corey on there were plans with ash rescue that has been modified change a little bit with their change of leadership so i was it all play the other the other increase in that line items because we're looking at moving to a professional counting service to do our county we have a we're very fortunate to have randy who does our actions or character and does all of our counting however  you're not going to be there forever i think he would like to eat but you know the real prelims ation isn't that he won't be there forever so at some point in time we've got to we've got to look at moving away having somebody within the department that brings those just you know i think you are worker's comp rate is more than your roof you know workable is just it's a hazard so you were trying to work it out trying to figure that out we pay or we pay our people the state and it's not so much a salaries that some of the sticking point with going to work and so we're working on it more to come of that but right now that's the number that's out there and rather than not put it in the budget not have enough i'd rather come back and say we had some extra pool you know work that out we'll saw we took down the line item for electricity and heat you can see we've been underspent there and we made the switch to natural gas that was a big improvement for us and our full time employees are very very energy conscious and they do a great job of keeping the lights off and not running things off people when they don't have to our electric bills are lower now than they had the name stations so i'm not sure how they're doing that but they're doing a good job so keep that w look at previous year's budgets and where we've actually been spending our equipment is our cars are getting older we're sending a life life expectancy of them so as that happens the maintenance is going up on them we have to keep a close eye on that that we don't tip the scale too far that ok taking down a little bit of station maintenance were increasing that little bit you can see that we did overspent station is getting older there are more things that we have to maintain roof leaks so the doors of the station shifted the door don't work but if you have you know through fifteen you do you don't know what's driving up a number fifteen if you have overturned truck and something happening these meters will give us some sense of that there's a hazard there it won't get anywhere near what the and the cost to repair versus purchasing a new one that was much more capable john here's a pretty that piece of equipment over the years so we decided not to repair the well we had to get up early and it's a much more capable good for us now it's service much better than in the past and that's the majority of the cost of the upgrade we did get along on our plan is with last year's funding  audit should tell us that we have some money left over that we did not spend the entire budget will go back to reserve and immediately take them out of reserve pay off year with that that was our plan along we just took along to make sure because if we did have several storms or something like that we did want to have come back to you guys rather make a payment this year this year but it but those appear so if you keep the tracks yes yes the trash on yes we move the is a line item that we are actually budgeted we've always budgeted money it just went into the truck payment line and we've broken that out so the seventy seven zero eighty seven is the actual loan payments that we have the ninety six eighteen that's what we want to put into regular basis we do competitively bid everything about is a question for you do you can being being an international truck dealer seems like a lot of your trucks come from there but do you still you know do you still go out and get four that has been so those are the three big capital items that we have the building the trucks in are actually radios so that that's what we have been and that falls in line with a capital plan at this point here on reserves we do expect to aware fema has changed the rules and typically the fema brings the premium fema reimbursements that we have been getting we will no longer get because we don't we don't clip the criteria the county doesn't clip the code area correct  is if you remember last year we talked about the thermal imaging cameras that we were going to buy for the previous year's budget we bought those last in in the thirteen fourteen here we went through an exhaustive process there with nine different media factors we invited every firefighting thermal imaging cameras in factor in the country they all came out and we evaluated the cameras that they have to offer and we feel that we made a very very good choice with the camera we did buy  bank that is actually the funds that when we first got the rivers land it was a little partial land that we sold that's the money from that sale and that money has been used to drive years for repairs in the house or anything like that  all the truck is more expensive because it has a ladder he does not attend an actual one hundred thirty foot bucket truck you know with two thousand g p m pump and water all that you know all it will have all ladders that we think we are the fire department we need to do an education process we need to educate the select words educate towns you know why is this needed why it's needed and what the driving factors are it is not only building high people will be spending four five six times what they are spending in taxes in homeowner's insurance having a well qualified fire department if you if you if you were to call your own insurance company and say  another area that the fire department has a whole lot of work to do in educating the public as to what is the real cost of the fire yes you know we're not we're not free because people pay taxes but the calculate insurance premiums and if you didn't have a fire department that you have that little room and contents fire that we get to the extent where she and the house are saved and it's you know fifty thousand dollars worth of damage rather than a three hundred thousand dollars home that that's the pipe for free we had to pay for all the interior equipment and the generators which are over we did that and along the whole you know now we're saving energy you know we've got program thermostats we're changing from t twelve lights to t eight lights t you know so those are the things that harry does all the time for us he's the guy that's on the phone get that stuff done shut went off keep the doors closed turn the heat down so you know that's that's a success story as far as i'm concerned of having a full time employee new line item for professional and technical service and yet you are the highway they don't have a mind like that and i think a lot of times they are getting to a point where they may be hiring engineering services that are going to be part of the project  it's already highly capitol hill so i mean it would just be moving the wind it would probably really is a capital because that part of the study was never used right is right you know i talked about it too a little bit if i were not i'm sure maybe some of that they they still let you know that you really need this type of accounting highly you know or so the original study written you know look at the whole building right and they come up with a plan that was fourteen or sixty grand to do the roof or do the air and all that we said that number comes in i may look for two more or maybe not but it didn't he didn't think it was going to be into the category of policy but i haven't heard from him in the middle of thursdays i spent on those than certain four working days and i haven't heard back from him that's where we are with the garage be strictly administrative yes jumping ahead of the weather demolition guy comes in process all that houses down he gives us a bill ordered me to do give me my thirty again for some reason you know i mean these monies we have received any of these money and say hey contractor you can go now and we have this money and then he finished the job we entered and i think we're doing the right thing like doing demonstrated work all the work that you've done and then we're doing the right consider is do we have the forty five thousand to put towards that project and the grandiose project you mean paul was ninety thousand dollars estimate of just twenty trouble gauging public interest in tennis right now and that's my biggest concern to do that to know about fifty g s basically what we're going to do and i know it's going in there and all those things but i don't think people know much about the c a p n never really seen it you know as a budget it fits in there but i just thought of it fits in that big of a picture but if we're looking for centuries to shrink our budget all the time and in exciting expenses what i'm concerned about is do we have a cultural budget and i don't know i mean it's a bigger it but put up by people with good intentions that never really took part of it and that case in point susan was never on that original list and has been here because they wanted to for one reason or another i don't think it went through appropriate channels to make sure you know it to pete you want to run through it just a little bit or do you want us to just talked about it or what was your i guess my reason for just getting on the agenda was to just follow up and see if there's anything in there that you need a clarification on i really don't have a  to have a realistic conversation without being too often testing so just a backdrop for the public who are listening are some day watches this you guys are you i set out to investigate instead of the future of district five school house ok it's in the center at guys do get into a bit you know i want to just jump in here about money and then take away kind of was how i feel from your report was you know maybe maybe you know probably not the best idea to sell it to a private entity because you don't know what happens to it it is a town asset and no matter what the future is a building that falling apart needs to be fixed whether you historical society get it whether we keep it as an asset or whatever happens you get to fix it before you can do that is that you guys is that  yes i mean i think in a perfect world there to be five more people on the task force and we would go out for two or three more years to really really really dig into maybe some of the other esoteric opportunities grants and you know other groups maybe taking ownership of it given the i think we've got a lot of work done but given the momentum in the bodies in the mines never required to really go forward with it any further i think that would be a dedicated group of people that are just trying to figure out how to save it and if it's going to damage it and who's going to maintain it and how that's going to happen knowing that that's going to take some time which is why we suggested really getting a focus from together on just that that in the meantime till that's realistically it will be done in the meantime you got to have assets deteriorating so well that's revving up question the but i guess what we need to be done i would imagine you have to get some public input as to what people's feelings are as to you know if that we do know this town i would feel a lot of that i think there's a lot of cultural sentimental value to it to get back to th core conversation we don't have a cultural budget but i think it is to me it's kind of a gray area to be honest with you it's it still comes back to the back of the town and the town hasn't done anything to it i think that historical society has  support of generating interest in dues yes i'm in that building got it where it is from as you can see where it was from some of those photographs that scare it without a plan for sustainability there is no what are we going to do on monday it was just a big hangover and here we are thirty some odd years later not as bad off as it was certainly well improved but i think that that would be something that a group really really devoted to exploring courageous in the preservation possibilities in the funding streams and things like that would be necessary i just don't think that that's going to happen overnight and i think in the meantime something isn't done we need to stabilize this basically yeah it's it's certain it's certain t spent seventy grand but it should be willing to gamble seeing what the ending but and i would love to find out you know from some of the folks who were involved back then some of the people that i did speak to that were part of that process back then thirty some years  you know you guys in this task force in your turnout to do ever since like we live in a community where a temperature gauge out front raising seventy grand you think that would work in this case from what you guys noticed you know when that happened again that you know thirty years later in the town we live out there and start trying to do it i know there's some demand for the building even the way it is without any plumbing and people you know like to use it people would use it a lot more if it had plumbing water in septic i think it could be a great community space town committee said used it when this building was for with meetings on particular night people had to go over there and have a meeting the historical society it's been a great place for them to you know put all their documents an artifact since they had to come out of this building they they have no home so it would be a great space for them there are a lot of possibility as you know for the historical society maybe to be on one floor have a communit space maybe on the bottom floor i think you know the building would would be used but i don't know we had someone from preservation trust kunda talk to us and she said oftentimes a project like this needs a sparkplug person and carol wagner was that person the last go round  sir but there are no restrictions on what somebody could do to somebody could completely change it it's the last of fifty one room schoolhouses in  center all the rest are either disappeared or you know private hands falling down i really think it would be a shame i  mean if it were transferred to a nonprofit like possibly the historical society or another group that took an interest in applying for grants and in restoring  ownership now and then we pursued the fund raising in the grants and we put the sign out front trying to raise x number of dollars another five to ten years thirty forty thousand and that's just basically to get running water in and setting there and those of those have been things that have at least in my estimation a talking with some people that have retarded people from w invest an awful lot in what my concern is that it doesn't to deteriorate beyond where it is now to a greater degree sure it's even hard to deal with in five or ten years in the meantime parallel to that to figure out a way of the level of interest in this war in terms of the task force that we have to get to know one person left two weeks before we were done without contributing anything so it's been rather susan and i and you know rogers a busy guy you can make it tonight so you know there's a lot of work and then secondly shall we spend twenty five thousand a year for three years restoring the exterior building over anything really we didn't do that we wanted to do place was to do a survey of the town and ask people what they would like to see happen there that that would have been a good thing to do is i don't know whether or not putting a resolution like that on the town so just done what you're saying to one of the all saying what you just said that what we also can do on town meeting day is just like we did with make believe there's no should should we visit should we discussion of this schoolhouse should be you know it's a question it's not a financial question is not p does i just next to get it going somewhere out of the task forces and into a broader venue i think you know if there's a way to effectively get people involved in town meeting i'm all for it of then hopefully having it not which which could happen here but to do at the same time if we put it in the budget the budget is something that's rolling from the floor week great moment i mean it's range twenty five grand and people can stand up and say i want that twenty five grand right so that's whatever and maybe leave them ten and you take that still our decision and then after that yeah so you can be stuck in that ok so there is some in what you mean you know we're not trying to make a decision this is not our body we're just making up the budget and people are voting on the right it's their budget their budget i guess just good maybe just to summarize from my own perspective i look at it as i know it i know that it's not a tennis court i know that it's not a plow trucks but it is a town that said yes we are yeah we don't and we've been off the to get them briefly into my component of the the right up a building like that is very very simple if that were your house and you were looking at a painting of yours or just like my father down in new jersey still gets up on the ladder he doesn't spend all summer pay the house and just d here just take away the window sills in the front porch next time you turn the corner you know so you could be saved maybe you don't spend seventy five thousand dollars over three years if you do the bare minimum ten thousand dollars let's just do what we can on this side of a person who's not you know maybe there's a way to even shrink that further but just start paying attention some way maybe it's not a full seventy five all or nothing maybe it's not a promoter dream wish list you know maybe it's a more modest amount that is at least getting hands on the thing and people seed improvement if you had a w what would you like to do next year to the building i would like to least know that the town would provide the town or whoever would at least provide sort of what's out there so that it is not something that is like a specialty robust like there are a couple of varying opinions on how to go best affectively you know repairing the windows and things but you know maybe that side because it is the most extreme side because of the number of windows would not be the first sign maybe the first or the side to do is the front it only has a couple of windows and door and it's the picture asked front facade and that generates interest in some of those who has been also gives us some assessment as to what we might find in other areas of building you know that might be a more modest  all go on the record as saying it like to be all that i i can be the one of the people ringing the bell to get people to come to the meetings you know i've already done that for a year and a half and i would like to kind of you know for the sound to really need that charge and figure out a way to get it as  but here is my takeaway i completely i sadly disagree from my three years of experience here and there's no way that there is i don't think that the manpower energy or time for that to take off through the town and what that needs is it's more spark plug person than motivated and i've seen this happen in other towns some motivated person unusual people who the person has wealthy friends to be perfectly honest with and they can gather together this group of five to turns into twenty and they turn these things around to have a low end and look very suppose social and the right to check is the yeah that it's i haven't seen that in this town since i've been here that that spark plug type of thing with any other project that i don't know if there has to be a separate committee i see the most motivated group here and i know your interest you guys have an interest in historical things not in refurbishing buildings and saving buildings but it is an old building is histor you have all your stuff in there and i'll just keep it in mind that you guys go in for your meetings but i know as a select board if you guys were ever at all interested in keep on running with this thing that little bit what these guys been doing i have i see no need to create another committee if you guys could ever take that not knowing the makeup of our society i would be more of an interest to the story in that building then there is restoring our archiving our clippings in photos in every ha ha ha well that's the way to group started and they yes they had disappeared along the way that's because they went to the task force now they disappeared from his school too but  said hey we have a renewed interest in it as it is the society and we want to work on pursuing our relationship or a relationship or something with this deal that i think that it's a good fit so if it ever comes up or whatever  we needed to pursue the project at this point we've been waiting for the task we wanted to see where they came in with numbers i said i think again will we get to build the budget and do that my gut is these numbers go towards it in you know we'll see what happens with the budget and then go towards it but as we know these numbers are no so long term solutions so i'm looking towards the historical society as that group who may come up with that long term solution because if everybody's waiting around for this town to do it and that's a fact you know that we can repair the outside of the building that we're here that's had a problem waiting around for it to become a community center grow to become you got to have this private interest involved you're just not going to happen yeah we can we can i could happen repairs in keeping up with our up with our infrastructure surely we can do that we're ok at that we keep up with our roads we just did this building yes that's what this town does but without a big you know as you know we have a town planner that's always changing being worked on there's not much input on that we don't have town management at this point because the size that we are so we're a small town and a small town like this ne private groups like yourself stepping up and i think i would think would be ridiculous for this town to impede you in any way a group still stood up with a good idea to me personally i could see us the top read a bit in that something needs to be done either needs to be torn down or needs to be fixed i mean as i mean those streams and i'm sure on the big side but obviously i mean i look at that wall and there's so much water getting in that wall it's unbelievable where all the big windows are would i be would it be appropriate for me to then ask the selector to leave consider it maybe a question of gauging down support of trying to be like a larry i'll feel you know so we all did so i think i think it's still at that how you all feel and think temperature private that sort of thing and again i think that's for historical society to have more social things front porch forum says speaks about the building i mean i say get the building sealed up the not leaking but not very i just i don't see the town you know working in the stairs and doing all that it would have to get outside the towns  history this building and i feel like pound should be two words that there is a tree we've lost so many historic buildings in underhill center them mansfield house and i mean house that was in the church parking lot and i mean you could go on and on the historic infrastructure that underhill has lost over the years and i  so i mean and i know it's not a huge budget light and you're talking mail but i again hope for the thermometer in the private sector to take that on more than than just to wait on government and tax dollars to do that but i hear it is it  what months and then i took their hourly rate and spread it out there so that i could spread it between fifteen sixteen and seventeen out of line if they're going to slip schedule or not that that's what the schedule your contract says so that took was a sham which trucked it over there yeah yeah right because it's not reconstruction right and they probably most of this paved in the future should go to but i just were worried about this one and then also the sidewalk it split and i i took out anything to do with this building actually that fifty thousand for the building is probably you know i just put it on the wind of it or what it is it's probably exterior that it was in this year i took it out  and i'm missing a couple of numbers from different places but i put an estimate in our ready and and what it ends up being then is that the amount of money needed for property taxes preliminarily what you'll probably see next tuesday morning is it's up one hundred fifty thousand dollars and i think that's pretty easy that you either get rid of the gravel get rid of the truck really read the paper or some portion of each of them and you so if you left everything in there and it was about a point it doesn't dollars you know your rate would be going from four year eight to fifty three which i which is five cents and i think it was ninety percent if you can or so or are we in this building process leveling process of coming to a point that you know we need to take if we get a budget yeah  be done that a factory dumps forty five thousand dollars worth of rock one year it was whole because of that right yeah and that's a serious problem so didn't just happen our mind we should level farm isn't it's just not being honest well and for the next year on last year's budget so sometimes you have to like really decide you don't have to so that year sometime we should probably decide what is the real number we need to run concerns very tired town in the more liable position of not following the safety concerns but i would contend that if there is a safety concern in a professional organization tells us to do something we need to do that unlike what we did down here we said we didn't like science and even strictly nation and never read i'm just saying as a side board member i wish that we would listen to the professionals and do what needs to be done and say what we think town should look where there was all we had a few different studies here in the last year or two and there's one done in this center where we didn't like the amount of science offered to the board member said no to that so