particular set time as there is under the rules of fact no federal rules of some procedure in order to serve a complaint in pennsylvania you i would have summons or complaint is issued and ice service exception to that rule your honor they increased the court adopted a line of cases that stay in time there was something called the equivalent period doctrine in pennsylvania law where one reinstatement would give you an extra two or four years depending on whether you had it under a contract i am under the statute of limitations that doctor on which contained the rid of some surveillance was in the hands of the post office in augusta georgia on the sixth it is marked as being ready for pickup on the eighth which would still be within the ninety days  give you ninety days in order to attempt to serve it and it was mailed perhaps late in the period but there is no indication of that in of itself would be bad faith  hospital at the time and that is why rid of summons was chosen as to why the amount of time was that was what was taken before it was sent out i'm not certain amounts not part of the record if we were to recognize some type of exception exception to the actual let's just say it was in good faith still doesn't get you home does it well if you're referring to the address issue i mean in terms of the actual knows they got actually those ninety two days and within  put no twenty we know that there may be situations where actual notice may not be absolutely necessary so long as prejudice did not result that we need that delineate that exception here because the issue is not for us so there may be something but what you're writing this now you're suggesting a rule what are you suggesting to us as the rule that we should adopt in our perception of how we think  courts would rule and your honor i think you would look to rule one twenty four of the pennsylvania rules of civil procedure which state that the courts are supposed to take a liberal interpretation of the rules of procedure so as to how to a justice and in this absolutely necessary there may be circumstances why wouldn't this be one of those situations you're right i don't believe this is one of those situations where that's more than ted because the actual notice was it was late and i get it it was but it was sent to the right zip code turns out had the wrong city maybe there are adjacent i'm not sure but notice was given two days after the deadline and it's pretty darn clear there's no prejudice to your quiet on this so in addition to the wrong city it was also the he gets a judgment it's prejudicial look at all the time we could be paid anyone can do that right but i so if you go back in time with me you'll agree that there was no prejudice  how how can this come out any other way but that they've you committed to go forward i'm sorry well i mean how does how does how does this come out any other way but the state be permitted to to go forward so much so under the crease we don't get to the prejudice argument unless you make an exception that the actual notice does not have to occur before the red expires so the court is saying that they ma we have a rather broad standard from in mccreesh maybe they would maybe the court would like to expand on give us a more guidance just to supplement that especially when the purpose of the role was that oftentimes played up so players council would be stalling putting things up there was no stalling here there's no attempt to stall the judicial machinery it was just waiting evaluate this issue exactly chiefly no matter how you look at this actually see this issue was in the district court incorrect to conclude there was no good faith attempt at service no i don't believe so what's the backup for that the  on the sixth turns out they got the wrong information from bloomberg is i right and they they had the wrong that right zip code wrong city and you're saying the wrong street address but on him and it with my client but easily found on the internet their headquarters is located in charlotte it's been located there since two thousand and eleven a simple google search would have discovered that a correct address for mike i'm not just one many they have a registered agent in pennsylvania sounds like the court was exasperated and made it a finding that i don't make sense certainly that supported by that does make sense based on what you just said to us you know the question so let's go back to the certification question and i'm trying to figure out whether whether this needs to be done creases stands for any proposition it stands for some leeway right now if you receive notice on the eighth you need no leeway because that would be within the time period yes yes your honor ok i agree so so i think you would concede that if mccreesh means anything it would certainly extend the notice to the knife and likely the to whether or not there's prejudiced so thinking about it that way it's unlikely that we need the courts intervention necessarily  we're just talking now sir for for two days you know more than that reasonable people could disagree but if you're going to say we're going to have some leeway two days would seem to fall within that  in the lower court had are the chief legal officer of electrolux being correct and that she had not received notice until june i don't think we'd be up here i think that the lower court would have been absolutely correct if there had been no notice more than a month but in this case what we are we have it on the gask of the of the chief legal officer by no later than may twelfth and for that reason i think we have not met i think we have sufficient