because you have to split it in to eight like all movies now must be split it is you speaking of movies like that there was this big awards show over the over the weekend so we're in the movies well i think it's something like that so can i say yes they don't give a rip about the wins or losses you know the crying all the way to the billions of dollars in the bank but i really loved a few years ago when to halle berry showed up oh yeah she was set at it and so did sandra bullock both class acts i mean these are people who have a repertoire of awarded films if i remember correctly did worse than halle win the same year and sandra one either the year next or the year after year but she'd already received all this awesome press ahead of time what a great way to go ahead and say yeah i know it this was a really bad i think to just embrace it i think it's a pictures and that's that's a good what about the love start with who he loves in the big balloon adventure it was over two it did not take them away as if it was nominated for worst picture and worst screen ensemble well in the one minute of preview i saw either side so he's obviously not the worst the present the other movie i do want to talk about is before we move on to some other awards show that was this weekend today the day after the razzies that's my boy which had six nomination do you think and i just imagine this that comedians seem to have a shorter shelf life than dramatic action and we talk about the county awards but you know these guys that are around forever even actually stars even though they kind of come and go as far as extreme popularity but you know still and still making movies and that sort of thing but i think about that when you had jim carrey adam sandler these guys that were top of their game totally unstoppable and and now they're having william daley play robin williams and and a lot more paralleling out and sandler to eddie murphy i mean and i think i think a lot of people the younger people watching the show as we do have a lot of big fans younger fans and they think of eddie murphy as the donkey in shrek but they don't realize he was the biggest box office star on the planet for a period of time and then just completely fell off the face of the earth and now and and people are saying that you watch beverly hills cop three yeah i like  down your throat was successful you can see it happening with love that the actors that are on now and the comedies and i'm worried one of my thoughts on it is comedians are very good in ensemble casts and they should never have more than maybe two as a starring role movies like sort of the starring role because then then most of them are starting off as stand up comedians where they tell a joke a certain way or they have a certain kind of personality that they personify once you make that lea over to the big screen and then you start seeing it all the time previews she scenery runs on television all this kind of stuff it's the same thing over and over again and the people that grew up liking that or the crowd the target audience that time matures or their life change and then that comedian doesn't change same things goes i say with with adam sandler though is they start out successful and they're young and then they have kids and i think to a certain degree they like to clean up their act a little bit or they they at least make a couple movies about his age yeah i like to make a couple movies that they think that they can show their kids and then that's something that the general audience doesn't like either i absolutely agree exactly what i was go well back in the eighty's steven wright was one of my favorite comedians then they're a drop in and did not have a huge successful career but made some money and without getting out of that tiny little box there was no place else for him i saw that it was not good but it wasn't horrendous it wasn't horrific but the thing that impressed me most was this list of a list celebrities be celebrities c d e and all the way disease celebrities in the film i mean i'm trying to rack my brain everyone from al pacino who played a major role in the film and was pretty funny down to jared from subway who had a significant number of lines in the film played a regular role and a litany of past s n l characters big time people if you haven't looked up the al pacino dunkin donuts commercial that most of the plot revolves around you should take a look at that it is hysterical this little concept in there but again to have him from the top of his game and in one film literally go to the bottom of it but we've seen this before  the first one i can recollect in my brain is robin williams who again got strung out on drugs went crazy with his excess and then decided to clean himself up and maybe wasn't as eccentric or funny anymore and kind of a little annoying but perhaps made the jump to do some things that were a little more serious than thinking patch adams which had relative success but put him in a more serious role and then when he goes back into the society dead poets society but a lot of success in those kinds of films as a more serious actor but then trying to go back to do something a little more grown up r v you can see that when it was again mediocre at its strongest but trying to go back to that it seems like a goofy person trying to adopt these old shoes that he should have put away years ago and this is from mork and mindy was top of the game you know ninety two or goodness knows wherever but what was the other film he did the world according to garp which was a fantastic film and very serious but in the face of that comedy at that time from the eccentric strung out on cocaine comedian eagles quarterback and a brilliant film very very heart wrenching and phenomenal trying to go another tom hanks to the same kind of a thing very small time comedian but very eccentric i mean if you've seen bachelor party it's a  a call and it's a c list film i mean i know a lot of d or further behind the actors in that eccentric stupid comedy but then making a big leap a couple of years later to do some very serious stuff big a lot of acclaim not a lot of awards but still working to get that serious role and my wife says all the time whatever you know we're flipping around a bachelor party comes on she says we will never see tom hanks that funny again and harsh and i think i'm trying to figure out is the real the point now where the oscars are just because i think of their demographic being older than what work or in that type of work and a lot of people that can't stand him and think family guy so inferior to simpsons south park you know that even in that community of cartoon adult cartoon fanboys you know there's this love hate so it just seems like be it would be phenomenal for that group of people that but everybody else we kind of like i don't i don't get i don't i don't understand nama i'm definitely i think stanley's the cool man i mean the man but  that audience would be smaller i mean did you guys would you think of his performance so surprisingly the i saw the ratings are definitely up for the academy awards this year i don't know what you're there in the survey comparing it to though you know they can trying to appeal to the younger generation with this but you're taking somebody that's known for their vulgar comedy and then you're putting him in a place where they cannot be vulgar right and then that's where you got his halfway there half way there are jokes where he's he's being that edgy he's been there personal you shouldn't said that but he's not swearing he's not you know doing the stuff they normally does so it doesn't push it over the edge for the younger crowd and it's too far for the older crowd so you for everyone's upset right something that's hard to do especially when you the person is going to host the academy awards is not going to be the huge name he's a big name as far as the cartoon world but like he said that's a well and does he even really attract a younger audience i guess yes ted was a massive success massive humongous i mean the time to get him to host is right now so i think the choice was the appropriate time but i don't think he was the name software for them but they probably did london know what he looked like it just seems strange to me i guess that they can be awards i would think of all of the types of awards shows that that has maybe next to the tonys the least appeal to a younger separation of comedy you can have the academy has refused to do that for a long time animated film is the you know biggest sidestep they've had in thirty years and even this opening up to ten films now up to ten films films that are entered or accept it i mean their efforts to try and broaden this are balanced against their recognition of put it mildly films no one's going to go see in the theater i mean how much money did argo make i mean if thirty forty million and that's even with all of the current push with the academy awards we're not talking about anything even par what jack and jill made for crying out loud i mean worth throwing this criticism on this film that made a pile of money and it's not a great film which it's not reputable but we're of a crowd now that is very down and it seems to be i mean it obviously was it really well late october when it came out and then it kind of leveled off what with the leveling off point how much of that make them well jump from one thousand and forty three million and then it was versus something that's a big boon of film and this is with the assistance of the academy award nomination and win for best film and i think the only one seventy four million dollars people who work brought in for one reason or another and some about one or two lines some of the were just an appearance of scenes but holy smokes that movie was wretched it was it was not good at all again my belief the academy is bringing movies to a level to be seen by people who never see them silver linings playbook that's another film in that what's the helen hunt film for get the more now it's the one with the person in iron lung who hires her sessions sessions you know but most most people are not going to go see these films as great as they may be they're not going to pull you you built it up because you were expecting some real commercials to be this fantastic now you know expect them to be this is something new now they're the same level that they've been for the past fifteen years it's just that we think that they're supposed to be on the what they really are well and i think with everything else you next thing this wife isn't know that but i really don't care about of best foreign films coming up and giving a speech even for a minute we put that before him he said eight awards the show we're done get out of here and i hate to say this the golden globes has gotten it right it has gotten the recognition it has because it is a looser and for your kind of environment people run up on stage and say whatever they want in one of the most interesting things in the academy awards was a winner fallen on her face i mean that's we're talking about the next day when she fell down i mean we're not saying how this speech was so heartfelt or barbra streisand actually sang live we're saying jennifer lawrence fell down shot now that it's an academy award winning movie but i mean they didn't seem like there's a real clear winner i mean obviously argo brought home best picture but life of pi brought home for academy awards a mythology directing original score visual  easily done what twelve fourteen films at his life but everything he does but you know skyfall ends up with the same number of getting rewards as it has lincoln although there was a tie in sound editing category which  talk real quickly about animated feature you know disney pixar obviously the partnership that was and then went away star to go away and then came back again and it's been very successful of course brave which you know how many a member to the toy story bugs life in toy story two were before them before they actually had the category and all i think all of those are deserving bugs life maybe the least but it's still a brilliant film and for the time especially yes  this is a shorter one this year the county where there's names animated future well i mean short i think they have a lot of chances to win they just have to do the right kind of a story get out of that comfort zone of the fairy tale and stop being so politically correct princess and the frog was very very good but i think it was still working very hard at getting the new orleans feel and the genre african american fairytale in he was it was beautiful his hoss that was the best part of the film and i think if it had been almost along that line that i could have won i mean i'm i'm getting that warm fuzzy feeling just thinking about how beautiful that part of the story have you seen  time right it's in that dark ages the original disease was brilliant but they didn't get much box office success complete failure on both speaking of dark times identity thief leaves back up in the one spot as