inside because the life ration of the cell phone actually gets amplified by the tabletop in the microphone so you just have to keep your phone off the table but with that i would like to introduce we actually i previously served with two of the new members here on the committee to study the number of select from i'm an attorney i my partner and actually a partner in charge at wilmer hale in boston where i've  everybody and i would now like to turn to the new process for nominating and voting officers as you know we have dispensed with the nominating committee this year as an experiment and i any member is free to nominate any other member you've not made yourself you so desire and in the event that there is more than one candidate for office i mean paper there's only a single candidate put by acclamation i guess so i also gather from reading the rules that an officer takes office immediately upon  all right thank you very much i will venture the judgment that this process has worked so we can do it again next year perhaps  movie onto the  of anything other than a historical record and someone's recollection of someone else's recollection that's not the liberating meticulous that was asked and there was no good answer to it was the to move on to the next topic because you remember last year right guy for the forty one he made a comment in the subcommittee assignments about the annual report and getting this committee more involved read it then we have to read under the door and i don't know the best way to proceed i can tell you that i mean i have to have a general discussion on this question and the the thought was we can take a bunch of know which has most of the information in it and then we spend an enormous amount of time repackaging that information in the introduction for the general citizen kind of thing where it would contain relevant tables or charts figures or something that might be of general interest to town meeting members but not get involved with recasting so much of the notebook in a separate document so the the the so going through concept or this past summer and the model what we what we were told or recommended to do is look at capital more global point of view is operating budget and then there's the capital budget so i've already sent out e mails to the departments i asked them to submit some general capital in regards to everything that they need not just the stuff that's discretionary through the capital budget committee but everything and from that point we're setting up meetings which i want i'll be sending out a calendar to warn committee members if they would like to attend those meetings you're more than welcome to come and sit in we're going to take a look at all the capital we're going to put it into the capital plan over a five year period of time and then make suggestions on how to possibly fund and so it's really a bigger look at that capital what the column center found was that's capital here you know in the capital discretionary  the operating budget for the overwrite when you had money designated to rose and then there's money for capital in the department budget so what i'm going to try and do is try and take all that capital and try to make some sense out of it and then present it and say ok the concept or showed us was the capital is not just the one point four discretionary it's everything that would be defined as a capital i and then what we would do you would put placeholders upon a fund for example quickly maybe if you get in i don't right and you can extend the life of that vehicle longer and so then that year that you're looking at opens up a little bit more money that you can use potentially for something  into that because it's not that much money and things like that i mean that it's been such a small slice of the pie for so long that things like the cruisers i was actually on the shuttle but then when those who want into the operating budget own so there's been a lot of jostling over the years about whether we should have bungled things whether we should have things that are occurring whether we should have you know this or that and it's because there hasn't been enough money from basically there's no capital budget committee budget we have a mini which i just learned the other day which is probably the best if you knew the capital and down the fund many capital budget so if you're going to it would be great to make a comprehensive list and then comprehensively look at all the forecasting model that we saw last july i think views its work as complete this forecasting model which is a large spreadsheet which i believe must send everybody  i think it's important this is intended to be a reliable tool that will make budget forecasts and to do well there needs to be people who understands all the assumptions there and in order to have forecasts are valuable it would be very good to have a team that actually understood what assumptions being made and how much work that is i don't actually know i only have a little bit of time over the summer to review the spreadsheet but you know for example when we met in july there was a concern that among them the mo and the dollar value has fluctuated between around two hundred fifty thousand dollars to four hundred dollars per year i thought but i'm not absolutely sure that the model reduces what's the outlook for the next three years and in order to study the question in the most objective and reliable way there needs to be  people who are  we do have a free cash guideline which is free and should not be less than three percent of the budget but we have all sorts of people will look better really means good just a starting point needs to be refined or gone to the actual situation and what questions it's actually used to address i think that could be a pretty wide december january  seems to me that we're living in an era where consistent operating overrides consistent capital budget exclusions are a way of life and this is a real conundrum i mean the biggest objection that you  hear to people who agree to waive increasing their property taxes is people who live on fixed income or whatever so i think this could be dish huge project to be beneficial to the town not first interest estimate but to try to think about ways where it has aging come requirements but then if somebody takes advantage of it i think of it for all of the tax becomes very expensive as of even relatively small number of people take they would merge them into just degree but the capital budget committee and i know the woods committee and subcommittee has been we've all been frustrated for years about how do we get a handle on this and i think somebody needs to look at that i don't know if it's the mark i think what we are looking at here is but not so much how could we use it but you know what are we investing in and how does that and when i would like to look at is you know how are we investing in i have huge and respectful he does but be extremely aware of the fact that there is no look like the deep dive i'm taking this stuff isn't happening elsewhere now that the routes that are looking at those permits are looking at that there's a whole set of things they're looking at so anyway and it involves personal choices as well so the it's not just you know investments in the actual hardware and software and infrastructure but personal as well and twenty one of the ideas was to kind of take it all out of those departments and put it into one budget line it makes it a little bit more transparent you can see the increases year to year on i haven't really had those discussions with the school a week after we will meet to discuss the request of the community that i understand there's going to be a four hundred thousand dollars request for design  zoning that passed yesterday yes both and then the other one it is self pleasant street a district that is playing board to develop that site there is the school access so a lot of the work being done by department heads and my office has been put in manually it doesn't build off the previous year it's a little money so we end situated a new budget module using b to fund the first phase one of the path to get out to the to the to program is the transportation improvement plan where we would get the construction funding so phase one it is the underpass when one is the underpass before voting on