prefer mr clinton's attorney has responded back to to that in his brief but i wanted to just focus today on one of those facts because i think one of those factors because i think the commission is determined the law some life and has considered evidence with regard to that factor that it should have considered option to consider it in the manner that it did and once i think those facts are taken away i think the evidence is clear that mr clinton was not an employee and that's the control factor is that trucking companies that license owner operators have to do all sorts of things they have to put very low there and then i see number on the truck they have to make sure that th fleets basically turn dollars i think truckers leaders got rid of all of their trucks and just sort of said we're responsible for the safety of trucks that we don't own and there were accidents involved in which you know trucks small drivers to operate under someone else's i c c number trucking companies handle that differently i mean in some cases they say you can only use my i c c number when you're working on my jobs and in some cases they say you can use my i c c ever all the time so i'm sure  your honor the problem is that independent truck drivers frequently only have a high school education you're asking them to from if you're looking at sort of a policy perspective what you're asking they have other talking and for trucking any kind of contractors who they call in as they need them for loads so he what have the option to go out and get a job as a top driver if you can find one there are people who hire free products so it is available the areas of agreement impose significant restrictions that is not and the claimants ability to control is in place for example besan the agreement by allowing the the owner to hire these there is not a case in illinois where and owner operator is not an employee for the purpose whatever started you know but it's not a question of life turns out of course in effect to be totally and with you i think maybe hopefully all of us don't agree there's evidence in the record then was ok independent contractor there is no case that you could find that a data contractor i respectfully disagree with that as i just told pointed out you could require that all of the people that are working for you have and i was simply trying to show an example of how you could have an individual that was truly independent and not at all if you work for a variety of employers let's say th in this particular case the significant piece of the equipment was provided by bt trucking the roads and clerk quoting larsen said that control may be go all over the country i really another factor that the robeson quote looked to in terms of whether someone was an employee or an independent contractor with the right to destroy if you look at the employee handbook is not what controls the relationship between these parties that is the document that p t trucking gave to roger clinton but that's not the controlling document controlling died in this case is the written contract part signed there is the independent contractor agreement for owner operators that both parties signed it's attached as part of my exhibits and just to touch on a couple of issues that have come up with regard to discharge or terminations the five term in addition is the tradition of the contract that's terminate a contract is by either party is very short notice but that is very different from an apple an employment arrangement where you walk into your job at parties and they say get out get your stuff and get out and they fire you on the spot well there's been a lot said about what's in the policy about means of performance contract as opposed to just sort of document that they just give them so that the contractor which is roger clinton in charge control the math that means and manner of performing this agreement and  federal or state regulatory agency so they give him the safety manual that sort of advice about what they want him to do but that's not what the contract says what the contract says is that he controls