forty p m public hearing alleged look license violation vauxhall contract club thirty three wallace street manager stephen champaign nine fifteen joint meeting with the board of selectmen school committee advisory committee review f public hearings if it becomes too late i'll put it on the agenda for the next meeting ok i'm trying to suffice everybody here i don't want any body speaking and an insulting manner to anybody audience board or anything but i'd appreciate that ok so seeing oh i'm sorry god bless me concerned residents i'm doing a quick count but for the folks at home there's over twenty five probably thirty five people in this room and it's a growing number many of you folks have in your hands a petition we have circulated the petition just in about the last twenty four hours and have probably over two hundred signatures in a very short period of time and it's by residents who are signing it as well as local business i read the statement that in ninety seconds or less we respectfully request that the board of selectmen reconsider its decision made at the hearing on november fifth two thousand and thirteen to deny the application of split for the transfer of a liquor license from the dana farber field house and prove the application in a timely manner we base this request on the following information splitsville has proposed a four point five million dollar entertainment establishment which is estimated to provide between seventy five thousand and one hundred thousand dollars in annual local tax revenue and one hundred twenty five local jobs splitsville is a well respected business a special meeting for the public to attend to reconsider the south the casing and overturn the previous decision to support this request we have begun a petition drive requesting registered voter given everyone my name is larry thomas live at six norton street this will be point counterpoint i guess all right actually i'm very pleased that the board of selectmen voted the way that they did but i think there's a lot of confusion in the community that there's a lot of people who think that what happened was you voted against kind of a boutique bowling alley when what really happened was you voted against a very large scale bar only slightly smaller in scale than it toby keith's and when i talk to people and i explain that people typically say now i understand and for me what was one of the most interesting things that i heard was when lorraine talked about the twenty four day report and for those who don't understand what that is it's a massachusetts law that says that in any or you why court case if someone pleads guilty or is found guilty the judge has to ask them where was the last place that they got a drink in thirty eight people last year said that they the last place they drank alcohol before they were arrested for drunken driving was the town of foxborough thirty eight people might not sound like a large number until you realize that the number of people who drink and drive and get caught is very very small mothers against drunk driving estimate that people typically drive eighty seven times before they get caught for drunk driving so it takes a lot takes a lot of people to catch one person drunk driving once you get caught in massachusetts you're actually quite fortunate that that's where you got arrested those of you who read the globe spotlight article just recently know that in massachusetts almost no one gets gets convicted for drunk driving so you have a situation where it's very difficult to catch the people once they're caught almost no one gets convicted and then finally we end up with thirty to thirty eight people saying that fox where was the last person last place that they drank alcohol so what should be a very very rare event actually seems to be happening very very often here in foxboro if you try to work your way back there's probably a lot of statistical ways to work your way back to try to estimate to get to that thirty eight how many people had just started out drinking drunk driving on our roads and i would imagine i would say that the number has to be very very large so that's that's one of the things that i that i'm concerned about one of the other thing i hear people say that somehow that we're anti business here in foxboro because we turned this down  and i can imagine if you look at our recent history that that there could possibly be more accommodating towns in the state of massachusetts we took a stadium that boston turned down hartford turned down providence turned down and we took it here in foxboro at a time where we had sixteen liquor licenses issued we got it we petitioned the legislature to give us another twelve licenses we've done we've got we beefed up our public safety capabilities tremendously here  foxboro so that we could we can we you know we can handle the things that happen up there granted we got a we got mitigation money but that money is about to run out the costs aren't going to go away so we're left we're left having to pay for all that but we've been wonderful exercise in coming up with the town's master plan and one of the things that they did was they talked to hundreds and hundreds of people about what was their highest priority here in the town of foxborough the highest priority of the people here in the town of foxborough is the development of the downtown business district i come to virtually every selectmen meeting in my role on a different committee i never hear people here talk about what is acknowledged to be the  important issue on people's minds here in foxboro what are we talking about if you go back and you go through i went back and i looked at the genders for the board of selectmen over the last year over thirty percent of the meetings have us have a substantial agend item on alcohol just look at the last two meetings where virtually the entire meeting was spent on an alcohol related issue and later on tonight most of this meeting is that it's going to be spent on alcohol related issues imagine if we can imagine if we could just spend all that time working on a new town hall working on you know working on downtown i think these are these are important issues that we lose and we just tend to get really namrud of the development part of route one one twenty cell a street fighter from massachusetts pursuant to its licensing authority in accordance with massachusetts general laws in unaided chapter one thirty eight section twenty three sixty four sixty seven in all amendments that to the purpose of the hearing will to be review and to the alleged violations so in that instance there's really no need for a contested hearing as you might otherwise have in in in these cases so in light of that what we were prepared to do is to provide to us a summary of the facts support each of the alleged violations to be provided by a representative from the foxboro police that is officer noonan who's here tonight following that summary provided by officer noonan each and every one of the applicants who will certainly be here license holders sorry be here to answer your questions and to provide any other information that they feel is relevant from there  will have for you a recommended a joint recommended joint a joint recommendation by way of disposition of these cases but of course the board would have the discretion to to act by consistent with the identified and i subsequently talked to that hawker he admitted that he did sell the bit to the two females originally he did not know how old they were but upon asking for their id in a reserve in their id he did identify that they were under age twenty one and at which time he did know in the cell the two females alcohol the director of concessions was contacted he responded the young man was subsequently fired and was later someone into court for of the week before every five minutes we have a sign on our home all around the stadium asking people to you know anonymously or whatever reach out and  if they are being harassed or they see something wrong turn around notify security or the police excuse me mr cohen could you put that over there i was told us we get the public cannot see any of your signs harassment if somebody is unruly or whatever and it's really helped us in our security in this particular instance we don't dispute the facts this was a rogue harker he said he knew the s so if anybody was watching him which we have multiple security people watching our harker's if anybody's watching him they would see that he looked for the id and was trying to follow procedure he admitted that he's been there three years he admitted he's been trained he admitted that he signed all our procedures it's something it's hard as we might try to be one hundred percent accurate which we do if there is a rogue hawk or that  in this particular case through these two girls and they then go to him to ask him for the beer he asked them if they wanted to be here so he was immediately dismissed and fortunately the police have taken you know first we were here a couple of weeks ago i did provide you with a summary of all of our policies and procedures and i didn't want to hand that out again just as a matter of record with respect to this y ou know the second thing and with respect to the confidentiality of some of the information on it i e the employees date of birth  want to show the board and show attorney deluca which is seen this individual was team trained and he was certified and his license expires on september twenty ninth two thousand and fourteen were in the last piece of paper for tonight which i've also shown to attorney deluca acting town manager cutler and chief o'leary as we talked about in as i pointed out in this document we do have a gillette stadium food and beverage alcohol service policy that we require every server to sign every time they're going to serve alcohol and gillette stadium and what i have for evidence this evening is that this individual t bryant did indeed on august sixteenth two thousand and thirteen signed off on all of our policies and procedures and obviously one of the policies is no one under the age of twenty one  may purchase alcohol so he clearly violated that another thing written on there is failure to comply is grounds for immediate dismissal and possible legal action so he was indeed terminated on the spot relieved of his duties and let go and what i will also say is that we are pleased that he was arrested we are pleased that he was prosecuted in wrentham district court and he does remain subject to possible possible civil actions from d it's been blessed by both chief o'leary and the a b c c we put them into place and and re instructed our harker's that if they ever have any doubt with respect to whether an idea is valid or not to not make the sale and to go to one of our guest services booth where they have the idea checked the person doing the checking is not a food and beverage employee they're not a server they're a security person and they're the ones who validate using this machine whether that idea if valid the individuals issued a wristband that our servers know so that when that individual goes back to to purchase alcohol the wrist band in conjunction with the i week subsequent to that we asked the a b c to have their team do a review of our harker program so they actually conducted it at both of our country music festival events and i asked them to conduct the program both from an undercover perspective as they often do and are entitled to do and they often do to us without without warning and i ask them also to be up front and engage intervention perspective were excellent the attorney miller did talk about the text messaging and while we do it it's not only in the in the building but it's on the flyer that we hand out in the parking lots it's on our website it's on the fan guide that goes to our season ticket holders because we truly want people to say something you know chief a larry and sergeant noonan they talk about community policing we want our fans to go and seek out stadium officials to seek out police in this situation it worked and we're happy to see that it works because we don't want underage people drinking in our building and obviously we don't want someone serving alcohol to underage people so we are happy to report that one of the measures that we put in place that goes above and beyond what many establishment would do worked the most important thing we do or i do in david wheeler does in our food and beverage people do is the safe service of alcohol in the event the successful day for me is that not only do we attain proper service of alcohol every transaction every time but people come to gillette stadium safely they enjoy themselves and they get home safely and alcohol is the biggest piece of safety in our minds we also talked a little bit  designated driver program i am i am pleased to announce as of right now through seven games we get in lead the lead the n f l in that program and when i talk about gillette stadium history i've been the alcohol manager since two thousand and three since two thousand and three we have not had a litter violation stadium open in two thousand and two since two thousand and two we've not had a liquor license violation and in asking chief o'leary who's been you know servicing this town for a lot longer than i've been affiliated with the patriot organization and gillette stadium as long as cheap a lyric remember we've had no violations and to put it into context since gillette stadium opened we've had over fifteen million people come to ticket events fifteen million in addition to those ticket events we've had other events in our clubs that are not ticket events as this board knows and with over fifteen million different people coming to our building where there is service of alcohol we've never had a violation so i would put my our track record up you know against any other establishment in the town of foxborough and more so any other serving establishment in the commonwealth and i think as attorney deluca can advise the board it is in the board's discretion with respect to what they can do tonight and one of the things that is in the board's discretion is to have no finding you know so i humbly ask the board given our years of service without an issue with over fifteen million people through stadium alone and having this be the first violation of a liquor regulation that i find no finding this evening so that's what i have for the board turning to look for is i would discuss we discussed the facts of the case as you heard it we did some early review with the help of again there was no dispute on the facts that the recommendation that i suggested was a written reprimand a finding in a written reprimand and that consists i'm with your alcohol rules and regulations would remain on file and would be very relevant to obviously if there were a second violation but that is again reviewing your of your practices and procedures your right well within the again to review your own rules and regulations with respect to what you should do when the finding of a violation but in some towns there would be a warning provided a verbal warning reprimand with the understanding that changes have been implemented in the likelihood of recurrence hopefully not at all but as if if we did have a fine than if there was a second finding the the second finding would be far more severe it should again in accordance with your own rules and regulations for the finding of a second violation has you know certain suggested parameters for a penalty he's thinking working with teeth to leary and a number of other people we have revised the regulations in the sanctions for violations i just want to read these in carrying out its responsibility the board may consider the following guidelines first violation letter of reprimand and or suspension of up to three days or both optional closing hours and twenty three hundred eleven p m for ten days second violation suspension of license from three to ten days with liquor closing hours of twenty three hundred eleven p m for thirty days and it gets more severe  i think as we've worked on developing these guidelines for review i feel that we have to take into consideration obviously the very excellent track record that the stadium has i think also we have to look at the fact that we have really tightened up our sanctions from what they were previously so  i just think it's going to be important to the story very carefully for you know before we come to a final decision  letter of reprimand but no suspension that's correct so i can i could i could go along with that in light of the fact that we do spend a tremendous amount of time tremendous amount time at this table dealing with alcohol related issues and the fact we've got three more right after this in a row in light of the fact that we've spent a tremendous amount of time re doing our regulations because of this reason consideration of no policing but if it happened once it will happen again there's no doubt what are you going to do differently i'd like to hear if it's too hard as per person so this doesn't happen or you think this is such an isolated issue it's not going to happen again but to put a no finding and then we find out you know six months from now or a year from now and revisit it and then tell everyone else that comes we treat everyone equally for the regulations except this one issue because they had  a big event there and i want to keep everyone on the same level playing field on this stay within our regulations and i think take the advice of the counsel thank you for speaking out and open up to the public is anybody of of all of these hearings is really on what the what the applicant did or didn't do what the license holder did or didn't do and in this instance i think there are facts to support the understanding that they did everything that they could to to determining number violations but i also like to say the for the fact that you know you fight this this kid and the he did a really stupid thing that that's the only reason i would say letter of reprimand but no suspension you know of business i'd like to make that clear because we're going to have other violations here it's coming up and i just want to make that clear that's why i would not a patriot place or gillette stadium and he's found to be there he will be arrested for criminal trespass and have to appear back and read them court and as you read your documentation we allow magnetism for fans who get letters of disinvite to come back to the building  but you can be certain that that individual will not have his letter of disinvite rescinded you know so he can't go to the movie theater he can't go to another establishment or bass pro shop or trader joe's or revolution game for that  matter you know or his or his brother's wedding if you so choose to have in the club he's not welcome in our property and i think you also heard from us that we have a zero tolerance policy that's you  we have repeat offenders for violations so someone does stupid something something wants oftentimes they come back and do it again so they find themselves thank you well i think that the previous three first offenders did have a suspension attached with the letter so i just want to put that out there right and i don't i i do understand that i don't want to bring up those prior cases but i mean as all everything's always a pill will but in any case but the other thing was there was something else i'm trying to remember what we did that was the letter a sale of alcohol to two under age person's actual let's stadium one patriot place fox the purpose of the hearing will be to review will discuss information concerning alleged violation of chapter one thirty eight that occurred at skipjack to twenty six patriot place foxboro massachusetts all interested parties are invited to attend anybody  happened with the assistance in and the details are provided by the police where there was a an operative a young man who was under the age of twenty one who w s escorted into friday of different drinking establishments here in foxboro i think the overall number was according to the chief's report somewhere around thirty six give you the details of this event are similar to the others and the the license holders here who will provide any information additional information for the board and we will have a recommendation fare he took possession of the beer made paper for the beer and received change and i believe it was at that point the officers moved in and confiscated the receipt as well as the and then we manage it actually witnessed by a tender look at the identification in the identification back to the operative and then proceed to put in the very so by all account have every one of our staff members serve say certified tips certified by copies of everyone's eye you know and we also cheaper larry recommend this that it gets done every two years not three years so everyone's within that t at the door and we do it again days in any event they we don't take out of sight it i d s most of the younger kids that have ones that were concerned with their regular patrons and they were only for a very two so refusing them the sale you know we prefer to not make that money just like i go we're more concerned with taking care of the people looking at the dinner we were we serve seventy five percent food only twenty five percent alcohol spoke and more concerned with providing a proper dining experience so you know you mask games with people that have stayed i d s we just want to know they get a little upset and go elsewhere  we would have had the minute we would terminate the manager as well had he not actually seen that you know we try to walk around and monitor gas checks and how much they've had to train can things of that nature we constantly quiz embarrassing because like you said it was well publicized you know for a clear so we've been talking about it for you know twice a day in pre meal swenson morning for you know once a night and evidently we still didn't get the job done yeah and just for public information the under twenty one licenses go this way it's an older people's licenses go this way so even if the bad tender didn't have the glasses surely she could have seen that it was an under age twenty one license so you know i just want the public to know that just in case they weren't aware that you know on the twenty first birthday you can use next door and i think my concern is i mean this was in the newspapers it was well publicized in the papers and it was it's pretty blatant that you can't recognize the license or the the young age of this person coming in and i think it's time to push for a scanner if if the answer that we're getting back is the person didn't have the glasses on and said something doesn't sit right with me on that  aside i can't imagine not thinking that's a good investment with the liability and the liability and the liability that we're all dealing with this so if it's a cost issue  if it was anything but a cost issue i guess i would understand it but i don't understand it being a cost issue for that parameters of of a first violation you know i think the board makes a very constructive suggestion there but i don't know that it would be proper as a condition disposition  their time that that whole license here in foxboro so in light of that and consistent with the regulations i'm recommending presume to the finding a letter of reprimand be issued to the license holder and then held on file here at the t an all fairness one i'm hearing is they borrow one they don't want to invest in it and a letter of reprimand i'm leaning towards a one day suspension is because i didn't hear the depth of the steps that they're taking they have taken and they will take other than it was a mistake because the glasses we had i just don't hear it i'm sorry and i believe you look sincere proud but looking sincere you know mr early has  the scanner is what i think is a little bit easier to understand that if they don't have the glasses on or if it's a friend or something you scan it and it tells you you know green lights yes red light no and it takes the human factor out of it which i think it was  failure on this with the human factor and i don't doubt the steps that you're taking but i just don't think it's i don't think it's a tremendous hardship for one day without liquor to get a better better message across liquor license and being asked for and more events are happening and we're trying to attract more people into our town i sense a weird we're doing it but businesses are trying to attack attract more people we spend a tremendous amount of time going through the regulations and try to make it the best that we can and i'm just not hearing that the message got across as one and i don't think the police could have done anything more up front then put it in the newspaper put it in facebook put it on all the media patch i've seen it everywhere and you've got to be pretty much asleep at the helm not to expect it that weekend and when the question was brought forward have you considered it in the answer was we have but we borrow it because we don't want to invest in it and i know they have the capabilities of reading the date specific to being twenty one i just don't want to be around for the second violation if there's an issue and we let this restaurant thinks through it that it will probably be a less onerous day for them a wednesday or tuesday and not a weekend you know and that's fine with me but i think a one day suspension would go a little bit more and they can pick t know discussion in the morning you know i i think that we have to take into consideration the track record that was established you know you have did you say twenty four years twenty eight years with the second violation in history has been in the history set up to four operations and i acted at one time and i think that this is obviously human error each one of these involves human error i don't i think all the correct steps were taken the person was terminated i know again i did reference earlier that with our previous actions for first time offenses involved a couple of hours of suspension so i'm not i'm not interested in a day of suspension to consider i'm actually i'm questioning i guess i have a question i don't know if it's ok for me to ask just we've just heard a similar human error or a deliberate i guess it wasn't an error but a deliberate deliberate action and we did not issue any suspension how why is this being viewed differently i'm trying to see correlate how we're acting on these things i think in my mind that was one person that deliberately intentionally did it he was fired you know short of having somebody right over his shoulder looking at the same license i'm not sure if management could have done anything more than that i think this one is not paying attention by that person  being very callous about it and not putting emphasis on what their job is and the importance of reading that license i think it was just she looked at it and put it back there's nothing in here that i've seen otherwise and if it if it was something that you could look at and squint and maybe get by but it was so blatant from the report that i saw it doesn't you know vertical verse horizontal and it was somebody not doing their job verse intentionally not doing it happen and i would think if you got knows it was going to happen you would be hypersensitive to you very young looking and this kid is young looking very young looking people even coming into year stablish men and then when they produce a three day suspension we were but you know jim's asking far one day suspension in a letter reprimand and lorraine's you ask i'm not asking formally asking but suggesting right hours versus a day and in line with our first offenders the last time for the previous things that were conducted so you say you see are you suggesting that ten days closing at eleven for ten you know now what we  you know where i'd like to say we're one hundred percent confident that there will not be a second offense you know again we're embarrassed about all this it's not part of what we do we don't we're not it typical trick establishment where we have a lot of this happen and we knew about this thing it wasn't as if it was just talked about the thirty days prior to even talk about this beginning of the year so we've been promoting you know talking about this prenup twice a day for nine ten months whether or not this individual suddenly got lax on that day i'm not sure but i know that we took immediate actions ok when this happened thank you  or are there are these numbers happening from people who are eating up a few places and leaving the virus you know the numbers there and i think the number is important so i think we need to know we're these people are having their last drink to investigate what the numbers really mean not just of the numbers are there and also on is talking about numbers i don't know if this is the case but i have a very different was a police officer and store where i grew up and we were just chit chat  there but it seems like the cost just went up in general in town and one of things he was telling me is are there any policies that would change the police department now that storm he just happened say one point on the at eight ten p m in the fox for high school media center one twenty so street fax from massachusetts pursuant to its licensing authority in accordance with massachusetts general laws imitated chapter one thirty eight sections twenty three sixty four and sixty seven that to the purpose of the hearing will be to review and discuss information concerning alleged violation of chapter one thirty eight that occurred at tastings wine bar in distro two zero one p p place foxboro massachusetts all interested first the party will be from seven to ten pm and i'm here to obtain that one day license will have a vent to temps pouring our beer and wine from peak organic and ninety plus sellers so their license po yeah just i guess a little bit more happy you know and before it got too late for some of the seniors there's a program that we're trying to get going starting this year and it's geared towards the veterans instead veterans of in the veterans of mansfield we have a football game coming up it's the it's going to be hosted the thanksgiving games going to host in foxboro this year so what we're offering we're going to talk very briefly about is what the program is why we're doing it and then who's doing it so what the program is we are inviting all of the vets in the town of fox for in mansfield to attend the foxboro mansfield's football game free of charge and we're going to pick up the tab for that it's not only the veterans but it's the veterans families so if it's grandchildren wives husbands they get to get we're going to give them a admission ticket that they were on their neck and the families can come in and it's a sideline pass and it basically says two thousand and thirteen thanksgiving day game to our men and women in uniform past and present in past present future god bless and thank you it's a sideline pass in addition to that any veteran in the town of foxborough or mansfield that would like a thanksgiving turkey we're going to get them a coupon for thanksgiving turkey free of charge and i want to make it very clear it's not a charity it's a thank you i made this announcement at the veterans day celebration that we had in at the fox for high school  reason that we're doing it is really very simple and it can't get any simpler than this is just to say thank you to the vets and their families for serving and it's also a way to have the kids today participate and reconnect with a veteran so you don't have to explain what veteran's day is or explain memorial day it's a way that you know someone a world war two vet or a vet can stand on the sidelines with with their son daughter niece nephew we're going to get a group picture between mansfield the the the players with this group put our differences and our rivals re aside for five minutes we're going to make an announcement in the vets and then we play football who's doing it i was approached to get a cousin plaza who was working with the equivalent of our foxboro football touched they called the touchdown club they call it the gridiron club over in mansfield and they've been successful in fund raising so we're not sure how many people are going to take advantage of it but again it's not a charity i would say if you're a vet please take advantage of it it's a way of saying thank you and we'll figure out the fund raising between now and then and i think  mansfield put it nicely my cousin richie had said you know if the problem is too many people sign up that's a nice problem to have so again it's thanksgiving football game and it's going to be in mansfield if you can reach out to get flyers and it's go inquire of this license holder any questions you may have and then following that there is a agreed upon recommendation absolutely obscene on september twenty sixth two thousand and thirteen by the direction of  place never last in my opinion that some of the made it worse because the person stuck out like a sore thumb the girl that was bartending at the time when she realized what had happened was absolutely mortified she accepted full responsibility knew that t appeared under age and i think she simply looked at the wrong date on the license which was not acceptable explanation to us she was suspended for three days became highly emotional she is one of our best employees so we did show some degree of lenience towards her she's a she's in the service now as a national guard member  was acceptable view so since starting the very next day after that violation we kind of pulled out all of our guns terms of process changes we required all the serving staff and managers to be re kip certified even if they were certified they had to get a fresh certification we spent a lot of money to bring in a  so called tips master trainer to come in and do a large group training with a lot of interaction and role playing for the majority of the staff there were a couple individuals that could not attend that session they were required to complete a an online tip certification course that was approved to say to massachusetts they have all done so so we have everyone on the staff has been recertified there have been multiple meetings at pretty matings you know discussing this issue and making it clear that if it happens again the you know we will likely go beyond a three three day suspension for the next individual so the letter that i've set out here  dressed to the selectmen kind of lists the nine actions that we've taken i've talked about the first two third we have instituted and this is not really anything new but it's become heightened diligence on this matter and every pretty shift there's some degree of discussion around safe alcohol service we have required that every serving regulations at the tip certification course that we conducted we have updated i d checking guides behind the bar we have calendars behind the bar with the  minimum drinking age on it we've instituted a process that for any suspicious activity whether it's proven to be a violation or not of you know someone trying to present a fake or an underage person but that gets documented documented you know the day it happens and kept in a log that is just kept in the in the office and we decided to go beyond just our serving staff such that the private events were now requiring the host of the private event to actually sign a document where we set out what our liquor serving policies are so there's no confusion around what our rules are when it comes to a large private event that might take place in the restaurant and lastly we've modified our employ manual so that the current set of rules and regulations you know are actually attached as part of the manual and when every one employee is hired you got to read the manual acknowledge that they've read it like knowledge that they understand it so you know that the intent of the letter here is to really show not only our extreme disappointment and and our having happened but really to highlight the number of actions we've taken to to make sure it doesn't happen again i would point out that you know we have had training for the staff we do require tip certification the manager on duty recognize an individual as someone that was under age and made sure that the bartender carded the individual and we just said human  error that the bartender was trained she should have known what she was looking at and for whatever reason on that particular day she didn't and she felt she paid a price automatic reset if occasion for everyone involved and it's you know something we'll probably look at doing every maybe not every year but certainly every two years and anyone that comes in to be hired will have to be tipped certified before they before they start on the job thank you and you said that when she read the license she just made misread the date it's like i said it's a vertical valid in other words there it's a valid id for the dates you know like where there would be somebody for instance who's away at college who is over twenty one but they still have article license so in this particular case she claims that that's exactly what she thought she misread the date so yes i mean also in the other any time that i'm aware of that we've had little violations that the server was actually fired a person a longer works at the establishment where the incident happened and you know you suspended her for three three ships three days issues yeah well she was suspended so the idea of using a scanner really isn't really because your crowd is definitely you know usually older you're trying to sneak a fifty five year old through and from what i've what i've been told from various sources is that the scanners are not one hundred percent foolproof in a way that even you know some of the scanners that are out there i mean whatever the cost but that there's there's so many really quality good fake i are owners and operators one of the i think the only local family restaurant that sets up a patriot place and i know you you put this wedding you guys are there all the time unfortunately i always say the reasons that i vote the way i do but out of consistency it was a pretty easy thing to say to recognize is that license whether it was a mistake or just one consciousness  the same feelings that i had with the previous violation i have with this that i think it's warning of a one day a reprimand and a one day suspension and i'm sorry that has to be thought tastings but  jimmy's point about terminated me employ some of the biggest mistakes people make in life i learned by a bad mistake and i'll never make it again so i am not one to say you know yeah you should terminate that employee a matter water background service and on services any employee any person that works  guarantee you that girl will never make them steak again sometimes you learn your lessons the hard way so i'm not always want to say ok that person was fired immediately to agree with it sounds like he handled it pretty well i know it's upsetting to be here so i want to go with the same as the prior and see if we can move forward and hopefully we don't have this come forward from you can was that your recommendation tourney yes consistent with your regulations again this is a another instance where there is no prior record that we're aware of since their license or here in foxbor in light of that my recommendation was for the board to exercise its discretion for a lot of a reprimand to be entered into the record so that if there is any subsequent events that have that wine bar and be stroke for the violation that occurred on september twenty sixth two thousand and thirteen second discussion all in favor i was against three to know and just just thought you know the reason i voted against the letter of reprimand and the reason the previous one is because i thought that each woman should have had a one day suspension and i was waiting for says that we voted we already what it says on action items in the minutes of september seventeenth in october first were reviewed motion to approve the minutes of september seventeenth was approved in october first was approved so we've already pr just for trying to keep up with the all right greg on a number three john and i'll move that we accept the donation from the corrigan's with gratitude second discussion just a quick discussion and i appreciate the corrigan's with a twenty dollars gift and it is generous why we as accepting a twenty dollars i thought it was a fifty dollars or more or any amount in any any gift needs to be accepted by the board that's ok so that's a clarification for it for any department and these get funds whether it's a library conservation thousand dollars going to the police department for the prevention of underage drinking second discussion was in favor mark may i ask since we have  thank him for his efforts on behalf of the town thank you thank you very much for i thought he left behind ok numbers five overnight we can issues and has become an issue for the lost control committee and we had an incident last winter where during a snowstorm there was a vehicle had been left in the parking lot and the plows accidently  made contact with that vehicle causing damage and costing the car owner in the town some monies so it's been suggested through meetings that lost control that if he signs placed in the parking lot no over it or no overnight parking violators to be towed at vehicle owners expense please take notice a copy of that is in your packet it's a recommendation of the last control committee and they're requesting that you approve that action on your behalf where you you are responsible for issuing permission for sign placement within the town so that so bob this is only for  believe that they would like to also do it at the library and other town ok but i know that in the main i'm a focus right now as i understand of this one for the library but no parking over night is for town thought i would say all town buildings but i think the main focus right now is the town hall where that is news to frequently on weekends especially and and it's a big problem in the winter months with the plow obviously anyone that is a constant user of the law would have to have a discussion with someone from town hall but when we shelf this to the next meeting this is one one thing just in case forbid you know they don't have to arm them i mean place a pocket and there might be one of those things they've been having for forever i mean i understand a snowstorm absolutely no parking in this cali pocket wise but if you want to say just in the snowstorms i'm go there right now but if you want to have that it needs to be discussed because i know they will reach out they have inquired jack to me that i just know it well and they know when we had i mean they put up with a lot of excess of people that you know twelve one o'clock bad can't read them but this is no stopping all standing during stadium events because it has been instances where people are lined up on north street with their with the motors running and what they do in the stands and  the legal notice notice is here by given that the board of selectmen will conduct a public hearing on tuesday nov twelfth two thousand and thirteen at eight forty p m in the foxboro high school media center one twenty south st foxboro massachusetts  its licensing authority in accordance with massachusetts general laws annotated chapter one thirty eight sections twenty three the sixty four and sixty seven and all amendments there to the purpose of the hearing will be to review and discuss information concerning alleged violation of he paid for the beer and also took possession of it thank asked for the license and proceeded to serve him she did not have a good explanation other than she thought it was how to validate and that was that she was tricked course that's the nature of matter of fact to the day before this compliance checked everyone was reminded that there was one going on gillette stadium had had a compliance check so there's no good explanation as to why this individual did not understand that license  i just don't understand how we're not giving a one day suspension for the ones that come up in front of us and say i don't know what happened it was a mistake it wasn't a mistake it was somebody not doing their job you know all it takes is to look at the packet and look at this kid looks thirteen years old he's got a license that i've never seen before because i'm older it's in the opposite direction and was saying i don't know how this happened after seeing it in the paper so i mean if we had ten more i'm going to say the same thing there's going to be an issue where there's going to be an accident and they going to say why didn't you guys do more we were spending the money we're spending the time we're rate vamping the regulations and when it comes in front of us we're sending a letter you know i can be as repetitive if there's five more i'm going to say the same thing the kids are drinking the kids are going to these establishment and we're saying well we'll get you the next time and here's a letter you know and i'm sorry i'm coming down to you but you happen to be the fourth one in here it's somebody that at six in the afternoon from an older clientele that come in there this thing should have stuck out like a flag you wouldn't believe is flying in the wind and it hasn't and it's a country club and it's foxboro and they've been in business and we just gave him a license a few sessions ago ex to expand it so they can serve it on the golf course i mean with c'mon guys you know we can do better than  we can ask him but if he comes back and says why do more stings when they don't seem to be working people what are we going to say then well then we'll pick up the regulations and really read and i'm not being sarcastic but he can do one hundred staying and one hundred people come in front of us and we say here's another letter and we'll get to the second time you know the reason why i stay with this approach change or try to be very level with the way i read all of the license violations across the board to show that you know the first time you get to it's always been with me in the past even to the day we get these new regulations were arraigned sheeple they're in fuel if you work very hard on i've always tried to be one ti and it's the second time and i understand your point i've always tried to be fear across the board and i've always wanted to stay that way so somebody say oh you you treat this person differently than that person but in this case you want from a fifteen million dollars fifteen million person venue today then you went to a smaller venue tastings that i'm sorry i mean i've been golfing a long time guys any time you dress and a proper attire i don't to govern the van on of course once where you're allowed to dress without you know khakis and a call it's got that i mean that really stands out in this position in a range of something say i just want to check the chief o'leary chief did we do a sting at the stadium know actually the stings right now i'm just trying to you know i don't want to compare that because that's a different situation this is a sting operation and so again i think in terms of  model champagne a question and i know it's a country club and i have a lot of friends that are there has been in business for fifty years how long have you been a manager for i've been to the almost two years how many almost two years two years so i  would say to the board being a manager for two years and having one by elation is not a good track record regardless of the establishment forty eight years prior to and i'm not trying to come down on you personally i don't know you but  you know if this happened during a big function or you know maybe out on it at six o'clock in the afternoon when the kids can is in jeans a columbia sweatshirt i just don't ok motion on the findings a move that there's a finding of service to an under age operatives that occurred at the foxboro country club thirty three walnut street on september twenty sixth two thousand and thirteen think needs to be made very carefully where it goes to and mr de loca if you get on with this that there is a letter of reprimand put on file is to fall with the other motions but it the motion goes to too that it goes back to a discussion is that legal as well the to a letter of reprimand and one day suspension to be served in january i'm sorry february budgets it's about the time of year that we talk about this so we can start to plan our budgets around revenue expectations at that high level we're looking at about a one point three percent or one point eight seven million dollars increase in funds available for the f i a fifteen general fund budgets that's municipal and school and that's after allowance for there and then on the fixed cost side on the revenue side looks like an increase of about two point five two million and it's broken down into four areas about one point seven seven estimate at this point in time for new growth taxes is about eight hundred and two thousand start we're starting on an upward trend at this point with the development of town driven by a combination of both commercial and residential both of them are coming in strong you know that's a nest that will be refined as we march forward because we can capture growth through june thirty but but that's we feel good about this number of developed by the chief assessor the building commissioner and myself the other areas just a minor adjustment to taxation increase of fifty seven thousand due to bringing our snow and ice reserve back to the four five year trend so we pick up about seventy seven thousand and you know we we budget for a snow and ice deficit beyond what our budget is so we pick up about seventy seven thousand there and then that nets down due to rounding there's rounding that we have to do because you can only tax out to the penny twenty thousand so we pick up about fifty seven thousand there in our planning so one point seven seven million net in increasing taxation which is about seventy percent of the growth here state at this point obviously it's very early we won't see the governor's budget until late in january but you know in discussions following our discussions that we've had you know often i've had you know with jay and obviously taking stock of the economy and how tax receipts are coming in i think would be surprised at this point if there was you know  downward pressure on state aid but you know where typically where we tend to be conservative on the stated this early juncture and then once we get the governor's number that's when we can put a stake in the ground so at this point looking at the trends in the numbers that we  receive projecting a half percent increase at this point in time in state or about forty one thousand and change local receipts is a good news story for the town of foxborough projecting at this point time a about a six hundred eighty seven thousand dollars or ten percent increase in local receipts and again that comprises about twenty seven percent of our increase that's local receipts is comprised of over very positive increasing revenue trends in hotel motel sorry hotel meals in motor vehicle excise taxes pilot payments payment with taxes you know from stadium events as well as building permits you know which coincides with the you know the growth that we're expecting in new growth taxes so those are the the primary drivers those are the big numbers that are driving the increase in local receipts were also the recommendation here is to commit an increasing level to our retiree health insurance benefits of one hundred thousand this year we've committed five hundred thousand if you recall our plan is to continue to increase our funding to this nation to six hundred thousand for f y fifteen and that is to come out of the recommended amount of meals tax you know as is the policy of the board and the if you recall local receipts is where we generate the primary free cash recharge for the town you know most communities do not budget every single penny that they they collect they they budget to spend less than their revenues in order to create the free cash if you don't do that then you won't create the free cash that we do which gives us sort of a cushion in the flexibility and so that's it's a targeted free cash reserve and from local receipts we typically target somewhere between one point five one point six million so this year my recommendation is we target you know about one point six million you know given the increase that the solid increases that we're seeing here in local receipts and to explain how that factors in here just a breakdown of that to the the basic components at this point i'm estimating all local receipts all those fifty items to come in about one point five four million for next year and then when you back off the estimated meals tax which is about estimate to be about eight point four nine million i'm sorry it is my readers now but eight hundred sixty nine thousand for f y fifteen leaves us with a net eight point four nine million in net local receipts that are available for general fund budgets and then from there if you subtract the one point six million that we would keep you know we would target for free cash recharge for reserve that leaves you with six point eight nine million to go towards the general fund budgets which again is a six hundred eighty seven thousand dollar  increase from the current year and then when you add on the six hundred thousand for for open it we're actually committing just under seven and a half million from local receipts towards next year's budgets that sets out that numbers generated and other available funds it's relative relatively flat you know within that you know we've got free cash ambulance receipts overlay service overlay surplus and enterprise overhead so on the free cash it's complicated story but if i can make it simple we are currently on of the declining commitment trend of free cash towards the operating budget and typically when we're doing that we're increasing our funding towards the capital budget and i think our capital budgets have reflected that and we're typically doing that in what i like to call the good times and you know right now are the you know the good times that the reason we're coming out of the you know the down economy so what we have done our history in this space here of commitment of free cash t operating budget is in the good times to come down on a reliance on free cash and for operating increases on capital so this past year in the year that we're in right now we had initially targeted to commit one point five million from free cash but with the ability to balance the budget this year without using all of the resource is that we had available to us we'll be at you know is about four hundred seventy five thousand where we actually pulled that back was in free cash because we  still you know levy to the limit and we kept the free cash back so so in essence we're now now my recommendation is to target one point three million in free cash bring bring it down you know is what we try  is much as we can until the economy turns again and then to build up a sufficient reserve where we haven't been relying on free cash so we can maintain operating service operating service levels and then we talk a back on capital that's the model that we've been following so my recommendation is to bring it back again to the one point three three million for this year and so that has that actually had because the way we talk of back that actually has a positive increase on the free increasing level an extra twenty three thousand next year from that the reduction from overlay surplus we only reason we tapped overly surplus for operating this year was to fund the triennial revaluation in a one time one time event we've done that hundred twenty thousand over two years from the same account from the same department that that does the work so we will not ask for overlay surplus money to do the retail work next ship it won't need it and then there's a projecting at this point a ninety four thousand dollar reduction from enterprise the enterprise overhead allocation as you know we charge the enterprise accounts for overhead insurances that cetera from the general fund and so the primary reason for the reduction though is that we we  no longer will have a solid waste enterprise account working where we used to pay for all of our you know the trash hauling you know it's cetera and so we're not in that business anymore the normal revenue coming in any more  there so therefore there's no no overhead cost to allocate to the to the solid waste enterprise in essence after this year the enterprise account will you know balance will be balanced out about zero and then there's one assumed credit in here that also reduces the overhead allocation and i think this will probably evolve as the budget cycle of walls and that has to do would be funding plan that we had for the for the  administrative offices which we all know you know that was not brought forward in the november town meeting but my understanding is that that's going to come back again you know at the expectation is that the pricing that we were you know initially targeting and the general fund has a responsibility given that we have highway department employees who would occupy space on the general fund has to you know you know fund their share in the way we concocted the funding was as a  credit to the water enterprise account on their overhead allocation on a five year declining basis i still factored that credit in here you know if it doesn't happen obviously you know they'll be no credit in that to be about another sixty thousand dollars you  know vailable the overhead allocation they want to take that out yet we'll wait and see what what happens with that project and often we'll be in a policy decision of the board to support that and so those are the revenue highlights that get us to a two point just over two and a half million dollar increase in revenue and then yes assuming i just ask you to add a little color to that accounting so you are so to two questions first the four point three percent increase your comments on your perspective on that  the town in general and and you know i've been doing this for a few years i can remember how that compares to past years or just a comment on that and also any any specific especially noteworthy numbers here you want to talk about or is this you know pretty in line with past no this is actually  this is actually a good news at this point in time i even last year and the year before i do not recall at this juncture with the  know one point nine million we typically we've been talking about you know a wish you know we're looking to make up three quarters a million dollars or a million dollars or a half million dollars that iraq's right i think we are we all do so this is actually a very good news at this point and it's the continued dividends from you know all of the so many different initiatives that went into this across town school that are these are the continuing dividends that are paying off here so this  is it's a relatively new phenomenon from the you know the the last this will now be the third budget cycle you know that we're starting to see this but the numbers are actually starting to get you know a little larger because were at the you know we're at the beginning stages of the of the budget process so i would imagine with the estimates that i haven't fixed costs i'm hoping for some pot you know for some upsides you know i try not to come up with these forecast where we get some terrible negative surprises because it puts us in the top position to react to when we get further down in the process they try to set us up we can have positive surprises so we can you know balance the budget meet whatever the policy objectives are of the school school you know certainly took the right made the right moves by increasing the hotel excise tax you know the meals excise taxes is paying for some you know some long some big big some of the indication of that more the indication of this to get be very confident is the the new tax growth and we've certainly seen new tech new tax growth higher than eight hundred thousand before but there are some you know there are some significant new entrants commercial entrance of it into the town that are looking that they're going to contribute to this you know according to the building commission so i thank you for that about what we are that's very helpful i think having your commentary on the tr here last year we're worse right now we're still in new growth or growth certification mode right now we're expecting any day to hear from the department of revenue on on the values that have been certified so we can get the but the tax bills you know out with the actual values in january we were targeting just over half a million dollars you know for this year last year i think was also just over half million dollars so as i said there's  to possibly not levy to the limit by four hundred two years ago to four hundred seventy five thousand in the current year and the all of those involved in the in the process here the go towards needed one time costs you know boost into the capital program or to increase our stabilisation reserves to meet requirements or meet standards that the rating agencies would see as a positive strength that can you know to maintain our our credit rating so we could borrow it at reduced rates so we used those monies for one time items because it's you know when it really focuses on the operating budget which is what we're talking about here and we talk about revenues in good shape it's not the only area of government that needs funds you know that our capital program needs funds are long term liabilities need needs funds is always a need certainly in any minutes a pallet before for these funds and you know one way to to you know find the funds if you can balance your budget in essence under the levy limit and then you can use your one time funds like the free cash to put towards it and we dedicate them to these other needy areas you know it's good practice  a policy matter that i want to now that we've achieved the five percent for the current budget in the next budget it's a policy matter that i'd like to revisit with the board about you know i like to firm up the policy  on our stabilization funds and it's something that you know we'll be coming back to the board on and just briefly you know the reason is is that when we put money into stables capital into the general stabilization fund now it's sort of different rules have evolved over the last few years any time you go to take monies out of that fun now it's a reporting it's a reporting incident to the financial community you know whether it's for good reason or you know or not you know you're where you're borrowing against it and you've got to put it back which you know going back many years ago the town had had done that you know don't put the interest in and use that for for  needy item or she's will borrow a couple hundred thousand we'll put it if you if you make any draw against the general stabilization account now it's a reporting item it's a flag you know good or bad and you get all the attention so i wanted to review maybe if we continue to find ourselves in a position to to put funds into stabilization maybe we think about you know capital stabilization which is not a reporting item so to think about that and we can combine those two funds to report you know here's our stabilization balances if we put it into capital stabilization it will come out so it's something to be to be mindful of i want to come back at a later point to discuss that before we make any other for the of that fund can make a suggestion sure just stepping back look at the bigger picture a little bit this started back in october when there was a directive to go level service first level funding and then between now put if all goes well november december will be in that so hopefully january you get a new town manager because we put a line item in there that the town manager sits with yourself robert cut bob collar the chairman of the select men school committee advisory committee and maybe you spinelli to kind of give them an overview of all of this absolutely so i mean when kevin came any kind of got thrown into the mix going to advisory committee saying stuff without the full picture sure and i think that would be a world of difference for the remaining fourteen steps i would look forward to that in just thank you for putting this together i think if you've been doing most of the people in this room here have been looking at the budgets for at least three four five years  the items that come and go in the middle of this do we tweak the residential first commercial tax rate all that stuff five year projection that all falls into here comes and goes but i think the general trend that we've been all working towards is is showing here you know the work that we've done for the insurance and departments and it's we went through the low now we're going through the highs so i don't see anything from my experience that jumps out that's out of whack correct and you guys have been working on this well boards in committees pleased do take a look at them i think i've distributed them to two to most maybe not all just so we can get agreement on all of these steps are there additional steps and then as well for the advisory committee  put the the traditional you know proposed schedule of advisory committee meeting so if i could hear back at some point if that's a good schedule i can let the department head that's now but you know open to i think in working with the with the superintendent and  use you report here that you would like to increase the according to schedule but he didn't mention anything about the money from the meals tax to be used for roads but that's a that's a capital item so that the out and with the current projection that probably for next year that be another two hundred eighty two hundred ninety thousand that could potentially go to the roads beyond that i believe in roger will correct me  tomorrow if not i believe that the funding that we provided this year along with the the chapter ninety commitment from the state you know was was a sufficient number for them to work with you know to keep them up pretty busy this year i don't know if they can it's a reimbursement program so we have to spend the funds before we receive them and so he can start you know right away you know once the season starts there's nothing stopping them from going forward other than you know making sure we have goes on he's got something substantial to be reimbursed for because it would be nice to tap into that that extra money that we have you know to do the roads because you know people expected it to be used for road work and  although there is a program to do the roads if we can tap into that money maybe accelerate the program talking to the six hundred most us and that's that's a decision i'll leave leave that leave to the board the policy makers to the debate is ation and i have to state a catholic chapel stabilization fund yes ok to give to you yeah where is that money now and do we still have because i'm sure something in the spring is going to come up town meeting to do something the town hall something has to be the still there hasn't moved can't move it has to be appropriate in ok so the and that would still be a two thirds vote are because it's in capital state because in a stabilization count all votes in and out of stabilisation are two thirds votes because it's you know they're typically larger sums of money and that's the threshold that the state said i'd like to see in that money come from another record could come from that the required two thirds could come from free cash fifty fifty and who would determine that when the when the wire non police i would say it's a policy decision you know it has to do it would probably discuss how does that affect the financial you know picture or is it you know is it just doesn't  town is already received the benefit of the you know the the premium reductions as a result of that we had a meeting a couple weeks ago with my it just to try to get a bead on you know where  you know what i was told that and you can't hold them to this until they do their you know their there's their actuarial work on our health trend but it shouldn't exceed this so i'm hopeful that it would be e it would be less than seven percent obviously we've been looking at double digit increases prior to prior to going to to my every one point you know reduction seven percent six percent is about a sixty thousand stadium rules regulations will conduct a public hearing on tuesday november twelfth two thousand and thirteen beginning at nine thirty in the fox for high school media center one twenty cells street to review the application submitted by m p s it will see the two thousand and thirteen  mentioned the seven percent copper jacket increase on health insurance which is about four in twenty nine thousand at this point trend on pension assessment which we don't really see until about january february but five point two percent hundred thirty five thousand forty four thousand for other workers comp general insurance increases southeastern regional i think is that their assessment as it had a little low due to involvement so superintendent there told me to expect it to go out as they expect we'll probably see roma go up by twenty three thousand and budgets two point five three million dollars revenue increased six hundred fifty thousand dollars increase in fixed cost netting to one point eight seven million remaining increase for general fund budgets i just wanted to make two points obviously this doesn't include any assumptions on on the town hall building project and i'm not asking to get into that at this point i just want to the board school committee advisory committee to be aware that the amount within these increased revenues that that my plan was looking to sort of preserve in order to handle the debt service going forward was about three hundred eighty two thousand dollars  of of of this number and so if if and this is the policy that matter discussion you know for another day so if that if that were to be something that we were you know going to try to you know consider a hold hold some room available to do something on an included basis versus an executed basis then that would net down to about one and a half million dollars is in crease available or three point four five percent increase  and the next update on this will be after all the budget requests have been received december eighteenth is our distribution date to all members here and i think it's probably appropriate for the town manager to just touch prominence will be that of the a level services budget based on the fact that we're in transition with the town manager and i i didn't think it appropriate to you know hand him a higher budget level so that's the  best made and that's going to be the director of department heads at a department head meeting on thursday and we've mentioned it to the board here before and so we just want to bring that up again publicly so everybody is aware of that and that's where we're going to head but the new town manager and in respect of the budget came to my attention that the superintendent may not be a member of the town manager certify that many are talking about there right now which is going nothing to do with this i can't be going off to a different championship games for this year this year's championship there are event will include six state wide championships and a new format for t m i ok we're certainly very excited to conduct the event again will have somewhere in the neighborhood of eighteen thousand people throughout the day roughly three thousand people per game based on history there is no tailgating for the event the parking lots would open at eight am  first game scheduled for nine am last game schedule to kick at eight p m with the conclusion roughly at nine thirty at night it is a flow event where the people basically come and go throughout the day to support their respective teams and we've we've adjusted some of the operations this year as reflected in the stadium advisory committees report to you we've  discussion about the surcharge that may be on the table today but i wasn't sure if that was an agenda item so i was here to to respond to that and speak to that that was for discussion for today i'm mike ashley from advice to your person of the stadium else or each year determines where it goes so in other words for the next year you know where it's going to go i don't know i don't think it's a definite next year each year we haven't we've had a discussion and the craft organization in the stadium have been very responsive to us to bring this do to the stadium as a showcase in the end of our football season in particular this year it's even more profound because it's a new football tournament tournaments that involves roughly one hundred fifty schools as opposed to seventy four and it will culminate in the first time ever of sixty championships even back as late as early one nine hundred seventy two there is still eastern and central or eastern or western so this will be the first time in the history of the state football tournament that they'll be sixty championships crow it people reviewing it police and fire saw no problems and i think in the past we haven't and i want to say a special recognition to the advisory group that looks at it you did a very in depth report i know you're a being sold by game that one opponent will be on one end and the other point will be on the other and there will there that when they do buy a ticket they're entitled to attend all six games but  on the school side and the on the m i a side we have an extensive procedure to involve fans to involve chaperones and hold all the supports necessary to control the school environment we have a meeting prior to the game where all the chaperones that are in the athletic website hopefully there are applications pouring in and the next step is really for us to approve the charge of the time and your screening committee and actually this says appointment in ch mass boston along the lines described in the scope of services that we received the screening committee shall recommend approximately three to five candidates to the board of selectmen as finalists for the position of town manager recommendation sha unranked in finals should be felt fully vetted before the screening committee makes its recommendation in carrying out its work the screening committee will utilize the profile of proof by the board of selectmen to guide its work as well as the professional advice of the concentra staff to the extent permitted by law the screening committee shell maintain the names and any information about candidates in strict confidence until its votes it votes its recommendations and lastly is the intention of the board of selectmen for the screening committee to function as a governmental body as that term is defined in the massachusetts open meeting last citizens designated to be members of the committee should make arrangements to be officially unrolled at town clerk's office so if this charge is agreeable we need to take a vote on this this committee is going to meet and that subject open meeting will how do they meet or they always meet in executive session well actually i was hoping to schedule their first meeting just for introductory purposes with the calls institute next wednesday the twentieth i have constance to tentatively on standby there so i was hoping that we could approve this tonight have that introductory meeting which would be in public because there's no discussion of any applicants that time and it's really to introduce the charge to the committee introduce them to the consultants and then also have them work out a schedule that you know meets their their needs based on those time it's timing committee appointment and charge as written second discussion in favor of john to your point anything that would involve vetting the candidates would require an executive session so appointment and application shaktar for the town manager service committee for the next meeting housing next meeting with him was a really like bass did a lot of just get into a lot of stuff lately meeting we will have the outside me because i don't think it's appropriate we have that much more of a lot left news is the time but i think we're going to dive into that next time we have a meeting well more time to discuss it instead of five minutes i've wanted to have