new perspective today we have the honor of being in the garden of carolyn johnson on center church road and this is carolyn johnson she does painting and has many many other interests in that so perhaps you could all probably my when i came here i got i have my education in art degree from the university of wisconsin and then i did do a little bit of teaching when i came to the township but then i felt that since  i started doing piano teaching in i would teach all day in the school system and come home and take care of my three children and then teach for piano students and so i decided i better stick to one of the other so i did do the piano teaching but then i continued as to do my watercolors on my own but then i started a little group of watercolor painters called the monday painters well we'll talk a little bit about your monday painters and oh i'm just did mind your beautiful flowers here they are they're out of this world the colors are great q thank you these these flowers came mostly from  five thousand in the in the country of the louis yes different kinds you can you can cheat you can you can hybridize and you can mix these flowers together make little seeds and grow new plants you can do that is called  so i probably got three hundred dollars of lilies in each one of these gardens and then he said just a wonderful man but you were asked about the money painter yes this group of people it started trinity methodist church and they were going to have a bazaar one day and you know liquor moment i said i will be chairman of the booth but then i thought no my going to get all these papers together so i decided i would have a class and i started a class and i told the people that if they'd presented a painting to be in the bazaar i didn't wouldn't charge them for the class well everybody gave me a lovely paintings and they were so excited and so the desire was over with and they said well now what now what should we do can't we keep going so we've been going for twenty seven years like goodness it's under the auspices trinity methodist church we meet in the scout building at night at ten o'clock every monday rain or shine if it rains we go to the scout building if it shines we go outside wonderful in you do your paintings at any point or with every interest anybody or we we went to we exhibited our paintings at christie's one time i mean when you actually do the painting yeah i mean do you go to different sites yes we go downtown pittsburgh we went to station square and sat on the little the little benches at the station and did the pictures of pittsburgh and then we go to little covered bridges and we go to we go on overnights to we've been down to west virginia do black waterfall and then we take our husbands along to the so it's a lively group it's it changes from year to year people leave in that other people come in it's a group of painters that share with each other and they're just a great g telling you where they are and there's something about we have three children judy jeff and janet in judy lives in new jersey she has a twenty one year old grandson jeffrey lives in arizona and he has two girls they're twins they're sixteen and they're going to come in a couple weeks so wonderful and then our daughter janet has she has two dogs which we call them our grand dogs each one is  their great big white dogs each one weighs one hundred ten pounds oh my goodness in people really watching as they walk down the street with these two huge gorgeous dogs and so there are kids there in three corn the united states had been teaching some works summer classes for the children and phil joyce the men who was helping me the teacher at the school said you know what this township needs he says you need an art league and i said all right let's do it so the was formed in our dining room and it's been going for almost thirty five years now oh cool in one of our full league i was president about four years ago and it's been growing by leaps and bounds and they have wonderful classes and they have wonderful programs and really proud of it very good like a really nice another very nice group so tell us a little something about how you actually paint a picture or should i say a paint all right what color is done in so many different ways this one it here was done with an underpaid and you what the whole paper with a great big brush and you went the whole paper and this is the fun part then you take and get some color and you add it in different places keep putting different colors wherever you want and then grad then you let it dry and then you start to put in with the smaller brush the things that you want something that you want to accept or something you see is i've been doing what they call negative painting a great deal i went to an artist a couple years when she was i'll get some more green here i'll show you how you go behind behind the picture and you go behind the picture we hear whatever you want dry when it's when you're outside everything dries so fast you have to be very careful so i don't know if you can see you feel any of this is coming through you can drop color in and it'll move around you can drop red in which makes something very deep see how that's getting very deep underneath there and that will be the background in the other side will be similar and when you when you do this it makes your your picture pop out it's what it's like it's outlined ginza right that's right that's right and that's what you call the fun part we're going to be go behind this and it makes it makes it come out it's called negative painting and if i want to smooth out all these things i take my brush and just go right at that that smooth out some say that water color is a very there are so scared of water color they say that you know once you put it on you can't do anything you can't take it off but you can now i could take this off i could scrub it or i could dab it dabbing takes it out and i could scrub it again so whatever would be appropriate whatever i would want i think i would want to leave it back in though because it feels good it feels better well it looks better but the flower will drop color in a different places and eventually i have to decide what i'm going to do with the leaves it's going to be a lot of intricate work but it's it's worth it to look up really x and to the petals on the flower do you look so plain completed to do that i won't i won't do it i won't outline the whole thing you have to entertain you have to go dark in the light and you keep on having different shapes and different  you let the let the picture breathe you let it move well now before you even start any picture or any painting you draw or something on there then yes so that you have something to follow by right if you don't ha your drawing i'll try to take them out i'll try to erase them when i'm finished but you know who you know i took pretty much of this out if you don't have a good basis of a good drawing underneath that's right go there it's all kinds of all kinds of ways of painting but watercolor i find is the most exciting medium now these little dots that are here that's done with water i just shake right around that i used to usually use to brushes and you shake shake water if i wanted to do that now it'll probably start to appear pretty soon you can use  you can scrape it you can scrape but it has to be at the right consistency that didn't work out but that is a possibility you scrape it and you shifted around you before i didn't notice you know and then this is color that i use i put color in my picture and then i get that and it makes those little dots you've seen that in paintings you wonder how they did it well it is really a fascinating medium and people that come into the class we have a good time learning to to see you know what i mean we learned to see it in different ways i  me and we'll go back about the right house i remember when the family lived here and went to school when i went to school well i went to school over here where was the middle school you know in the good old middle school in the bay we're going going to be a two are called the wesley the wesley foundation over at upper st clair is going to have a house tour in october and they asked me if i would do a house if i would pay to house so i was asked if i would do joe and s hardy's house joe hardy you know yes the of eighty four lumber and so i went over to his house yesterday and took photographs and and it's going to be interesting oh and you'll do the painting from the photograph  and i'll let you know when it is so we can go before i can run can you tell us a little more about your artwork well i went a couple months ago to a very good artist his name bill and i really was so pleased with what he helped me do he helped me focus in on what i really wanted to say and pictures and bring it out because i was a little bit you know very faint and very gentle in my painting and he brought me out a lot and one nice thing we're going to have him come to the monday papers in october he's going to come and give classes so if anybody wants to come that would be very nice call me but i really like to paint flowers that that's the thing that i really enjoy i'll do all kinds of other things that that is the nicest one yes or i agree with you because i think that there's so well here we are in my studio this is where i do a lot of my work these are some paintings that i've done over the years this painting down here was done in one one of the classes this is out in colorado this one over here is of all things it's the big old barn behind miller's hardware store with this lady i asked the lady if we could go up in her property and she said yes so we all stood up that we all got our materials and we all went up there and sat and then there's another painting over here when we went to what they call west end overlook and it was a beautiful morning and we sat there and we had a wonderful time doing a painting i guess were about ten people in the class at that time this is one of the very first paintings i did in my art class if you if i don't know whether you know about this is eight sided barn down on route nineteen but it's a very it's a landmark but they remodeled it about ten years ago but this is done before they're remodelling in it was just beautiful and old with the hay coming out of the barn and it was a gorgeous thing of course we got chased out of the out of the field by an a cow but we managed so are to still have to go through problems there is another painting over here on this wall that i'm very pleased with it's a scene from colorado in it it turned out nicely this is one painting i won't sell this painting of pittsburgh i entered in a show and i want to prowse was it was the mcmurry art league so it was very pleased with this this is called the bridge the eight figure eight bridge and we sat on the benches at station square with the trains going by in front of us and it was a delightful day in but always i had such a difficult time with the with the eight in the bridge  figure eight and to get everything in the proper perspective but it was interesting to do now there's a painting over here on the other wall that was done when i was up in the state of maine i studied with them and this is pemaquid point i sat there right right at that beach and i painted those rocks it was interesting the name of the artist w plummer and marlene humphreys from the township and i went up to take his class for a whole week this is a picture of sedona arizona i went out to a class with rile in we set out there on the hillside in this is a picture of course it doesn't look like a teapot because you have to look at it from another side to see the tape but it was a big very lovely picture in i enjoyed my time out there with him this is another one of pemaquid point up in maine i sat on those hard rocks painting this picture but it was interesting  karen's garden now and she has some very interesting stories about her lily so perhaps you might like to hear the different comments she has to make also marilyn about you take it from here well these lilies are the old fashioned day lilies actually they're not old fashioned the old fashioned one was the one that was in the in the field this is a double one but the ones in the field is a single one now from every one of these the old ones came these new variety and the way they came was that that hybridise there's worked with these lilies and they would take the little thing with the pollen and they would go to day can you believe this these glorious big balloons will be closed up by eleven o'clock tonight and they're a good example for our lives too because they only last one day so each day that we have we should live it to the fullest any and joy each day thank you carolyn for having us in your beautiful garden and showing us all these interesting points on water coloring about his daily which should be very interesting so then it's your turn now well it's about your day really yes a little bit it was anything you want to know might be able to tell you i got into this is a hobby in fact i had my first day early back in twenty five i was going to college over california state teachers college that time and my roommate lived on a farm in somerset county and his mother nolde old days only one of the early ones there and he gave that to me along with some pennies and it was a small yellow bloom very very early i no longer have it but i kept that for a long time and little left the farm and i had to keep the figures in the soil so i garden a lot and i started by day lilies and here we are at one time i had over twelve hundred name varieties here oh my i don't have that many now but my hobby is hybridizing and so i have quite a large patch of own seedlings of the high star and see and it's very interesting keeps me going is eighty eight keeps me going it is a beautiful hobby well thank you this is really you can write is on paper but this is nature well and nobody can compete with that on but like that we have working for that if anybody gets that they have hit the jackpot but other colors we have from creams golds purples lavenders paints and of course picture my specialty and these all came from the old really yes there were three as i understand really three plants go out from china way back in fact they try to say that marco polo back in the twelve hundreds brought some plants back from china when he was on the epistle and the male part carries the pollen now if i wanted to make across on two different ones we hardly ever cross on the same thing that's called the inbreeding you know what happens when you in separate you would break that often start to turn brown the seed pod and if you want to keep them separate you might get from five to twenty seeds in a pod and if they grow you would call those siblings or sister seedlings now interesting enough they you might grow plants you might cross rather to red six or two yellows a bit because of the background like our backgrounds enough some of us are redheads in the same family as the dark haired ones so you might get mostly whatever you cross with but you still get some outcrops of colors rather yellow or red or a mixture and that's what we're looking for now there are so many good ones on the market we're looking for something is very unique different difficult to do well the predominant color would be the outside and this is the pink these are the petals in the blend into well so they've been working it wasn't me come before i started that we now have those nice green throats or a yellow throat or green blending out into the yellow with your predominant color whatever you and i have anything from i think there's a tiny one here yeah here it is here this tiny lump yeah i have some even smaller than net but an inch and a half across that's probably two rather expensive you can pay as much as three hundred dollars for a plant but since i have from a nice colors in the self and it's my home be i'm using my own kid so called kids here in that a friend of mine named for me and we have another in a similar that called the police prince name for a friend of mine who is polish but can you see the ruffles and some of these more green than others and they don't have the name know that's a span boom here's one that's fairly close to white but not when there's a white or when down there see the solid color that's a day like yesterday late so i i cut that portion off with the root on it and trying to propagate it to see if whether it'll happen now the reason there's two small fans or it was all one fan increased last year but i found another piece of the grain coming back in and make it prominently that color i have to keep cutting out the green portion of it so i'm hoping it will stabilize itself   and then this is the part of the plant that was green bloom for me and it was a rose very ruffled quite a nice bloom oh well you're going to have something that will be your own you know well you can say th yeah that's so called spite or type where the pedals are long and narrow it has a little bit of a ruffle on it but it's not a real spider spider has to be five to the pedal five times the length inches long if it was an inch and a half close to ten inches so it's just fun thank you very much dan for showing me your beautiful flowers it has been a pleasure well it's been our pleasure to him so glad you could enjoy some of them with me thank you this is i'm grego from seeing your perspective hi this is our mcgregor from seeing your perspective we are now at the home of robert chamberlain our next guest so i'd like for you to meet robert chamberlain good afternoon bob perhaps you could tell us something about your artwork or your education or where you would like to start well i'll start right after high school and i always liked art work in school and i went went to art institute of pittsburgh for about four years evening classes but i didn't study well paintings or landscapes anything like that i studied advertising sign advertising which course included so it's cream work and gold leaf lettering and display work and which of course was always my work in my life and i didn't get interested in oil paintings until or that type of work until well about thirty years ago i was in my mid forty's and i decided that i would try that so i started st clair had a class for my liking the junior community college and i went there a while and along with going to some of the workshops once in a while that some of the well known artists had why and it just always in the upper brackets as far as my score but it seemed as though the older i got the lower the score went i decided that i would spend my time otherwise doing something else and that's why i started with with the going to the adult classes i really i just never had the feel for doing paintings and oil paintings and so forth because the sign businesses is straight colors most of it it's hard line painting an altogether different fact i think probably some of my first painting i always thought they looked like those paint by numbers that you buy and in the store you know but gradually gradually improve well i've seen some of yours and they are really wonderful and i do you do you paint by  photos that i take when i'm traveling around if i see a good subject and sometimes i'll play cold newsprint just the black and white of old scenes and so forth years ago sometimes i'll take those yeah i like to do that i lot of my paintings have been historical landmarks and old buildings old barns and  i suppose i probably painted a few covered bridges my wife still waiting for one oh you better get a ride in the couple that i bought i did paint way i sold of she would still like to first time i painted it i put i was kind of disappointed that i didn't like to see that landmark go really you know because i've been there for so many years and i put  i put a sign in on the property saying that coming soon shopping center and so forth and it was going to satire i guess you might say but the next time i painted i i photographed it from on the other side of route nineteen barn and impact in the shade and i when i went up on a second floor there were still about four sheep skins hanging up there that sam had left drying you know this is the it according to what i thought and then i put put some of the kids in they're going to school but that tree he went to see what's left of the tree there is still there the left it's hard it's hard to recognize it's as a school building because it's a different appearance altogether since they made a residence out of it oh yeah but but that was there till but that was it i think i had more time on that painting then than anyone that i've done so far you know horse people people take time to train to but  you know it was pretty well preserved and i had no time photograph of that and i painted it and some people out there that lived there saw it and therefore either had worked on the beginner on that line so you know you know who has that pain school and painted it and then i put the children in there but all those little one mommy schools are in perfect condition and i mean they're not fancy but they're they're in good condition it well and so since then i have a different shows with different locations and i they have different likings but lot of times i don't care what you say it depends on if the judge is usually he has been an artist and if he does abstracts i'm not going to w don't i don't do any painting in the summertime because i'm usually outside new yard or up in the garden but in the wintertime i can get completely carried away and lost specially on a subject that i don't like you know you know behind there's a newspaper old newspaper print i haven't any idea where it is and of course naturally it was a black and white and i decided to make a winter scene out of it although you put the winter scene in yourself that wasn't on the