is very twenty ninth two thousand and sixteen i'm looking into may come on no more was lawful excuse me ok i'll do it all over again policy and the government affairs committee will come to water to the morning we'll check with our district offices this morning again as you well know our office is unavailable dish morning for testimony so i will excuse the hart office but let me check with our be limited to the items on the agenda if you wish to testify please sign up and the das located in the a floor lobby or at one of the district offices listed on the agenda pursuant to rule seventeen b rules of the council for today's meeting testifiers will be limited to three minutes at two and a half minutes the light will start flashing yellow and at three minutes the light will be blinking red if you are still talking after three minute time limit i will kindly ask you to summarize yourself and stop went as do i appreciate your name and whomever you may be representing we've established our contact with our district offices and to be fair i will rotate with anyone wishing to testify yes i do my first testifier is scotty schieffer thank you let me turn the limit time i will call the three minute mark shortage stuff and travis is just a key he's uniquely qualified in the area of civil defense he's was a served with distinction as an italian chief and as a firefighter and watched him put together the wild land task force used been retired for a couple years now he knowles he knows fire service but he also knows everything from the line of attack from a fire to being able to do administrative budgets to review personnel the value we train board as you know it's been a while since i've come out i ever i felt very compelled and inspired to come here today and to testify on behalf of a lot of money smith not only has she accomplished quite a bit in her lifetime both in your family and in the community her being a certified red cross leadership member also being a journeyman apprentice with the carpenters union aloha is very capable and competent not only as a leader in the community but also she brings to the community element and that component that binds most of us together and that is the haha the humility she's passionate she's sincere she's very very tenacious but one of the qualities that captured my attention and won me over is the fact that she always looks at what better for the community first she will always look at how she can approach any challenge and look for a remedy and not just you know come out and complain about this not going right or that not going right or or even if you know there's any kind of personality conflict is sincere she's genuine she's not disingenuous and s w not only that she would be an asset and a benefit to the east mali community but she's well respected by all the districts in the communities throughout the island of maui and saw with that said again i want to express my sincere in deep support for allowed me to the hon advisory committee thank you thank you michelle on any questions for th larger victory no n p i a committee members might more and for the key he community is association we are here this morning celebrating leap day as it gives all of us an extra day to live on maui something to celebrate and that celebrate to every mood we are asking for support of the appointment of antoinette lucy and the ne to the board of water supply undoubtedly everyone on the committee already knows lucy and has seen countless examples of her extensive knowledge on a wide variety of topics including water beyond that she has an outstanding manner of working collaboratively whether in agreement on a topic or not and gets along well with everyone at times volunteers a k c a are astounded about how much she knows about our area even though she lives on the other side of the island personally i used to be too but now i'm used to it it's lucy part of this is because she does extensive research on a matter before taking action and coupled with a sharp mind in marvelous memory or extraordinary concern for the natural environment this is about water she would be an outstanding member for the board of water supply please approve her appointment malo any questions for the text as to fire she and i thank you mr moore and for being here next to fire thank you chair the final person living on island we all know that water is one of our most important resources and i think nobody that i know on the manner in the county knows more about water being a public trust resource knows more about everything about water where it comes from how it's just tributed she's very willing to share of her time and her knowledge with people she we've seen her track record in the  about her didn't to you know really looking at all sides of the issue before taking a stand and i think she's one of the people that we'd rather have on the inside helping us come to our aid decisions than on the outside criticizing us making the wrong decision so i really feel it out it would be in all of our best interests if she gets put on the board of water supply chair we did have one other person signed up roger strong  we served on various console functions together and she's just always there with this thoughtful response i think she would be an excellent and hardworking member of the advisory committee and i'm very happy she's been nominated thank you for any questions for the testifier she not thank you next testifier please chair if we do have one more that would be number six would you like chair many members of the committee i'm here testifying as an individual i have known and known of lou stanton a for a long time i just wanted to say that even when i worked at the department of water supply she was known as a person who could provide us with historical context and knowledge synthesis of years and years of matters related to water so i just wanted you seem that would give one last chance to anyone in the gallery who has not testified and wishes to testify on any item on the agenda today their opportunity to come up and s proceeding on two items on the agenda to the item number one nominations to boards committees and commissions we have a number of applications that we need to work on that we were unable to was received by the administration and want thank mr buffet for taking that back to you and we still keep aware of that that from now on we'll be looking at that and we have made a commitment not to approve if they do not three nominees from well ok we'll be interviewing video conferencing also please note that the hon advisory committee nominee smith has been added to the agenda w discuss that further when we get to her nomination members let us begin and will start with our first nominee walking free to this and go right down the list from that point forward so ask her to speak directly into the microphone like this like they won't be able to hear the other half a says a proposed resolution entitled appointment of member to the fire and public safety commission for the county of maui along with the completed application form for the nominee the purpose of the proposed resolution is to approve or disapprove the mayor's nomination of jack fritas to the fire and public safety commission for a term beginning april first twenty members yes mr koch thank you mr chairman thank you mr freydis for being here and thank you i know you served on the planning commission and that was a two two times a month so i'm assuming that you're going to have plenty of time for unless you want to change it i prefer doing i want to time that we have there's a challenge it's easier to deal with yeah so at this point members the cheer went to dinner motion to approve and put on a schedule be  sixteen in expiring march thirty first two thousand and twenty one mr couch  public safety commission for the county of nowi along with a completed application form for the nominee the purpose of the proposed resolution is to approve or disapprove the mayor's nomination of traveston caio from molokai to the fire and public safety commission for a term beginning april first twenty sixteen and expiring march thirty first twenty twelve mr chair we do have mr tung caio on teleconference from had to deal with the family medical matter on the island of oahu so i just wanted to thank mr bach i would regard to mr he did provide a resume of his experience with the fire department the administration is would like to ask for your consideration of he could bring the expertise of someone who has been out in the field with dealing with all kinds of fire issues which would certainly help in what we believe the commission in making a well informed decisions as it relates to fire matters introduction and then we'll last open the floor up to questions go ahead service ok i did send a resume before you and it should be sitting in and tell you a little bit about my background with the fire department  other than that i've been married for twenty four seven years due to my wife my childhood sweetheart i have two children one just graduated from my norm and the other one's start applying for and serving for boards and commission and i sincerely appreciate that thank you so as you know this girl and i you know i have the highest regards and respect for you and all your of whether he was for the current fired ministry or not just in my own interview with mr tung cairo he seems to have the integrity to separate those issues and his primary focus has always been to do what's best for matters that may be contrary to what the fired ministration now feels is best see he has the ability or or foresight and integrity to do so so we have our belief and confidence in mr tung that he will separate any had to molokai residence on the commission the charter does not prohibit that it did all that does its just a set you need to have at least one a minimum of one resident on the commission so take out all that into consideration and we feel confident that mr tung will be put aside any personal issues if there were any and make his decisions based on the facts and again the m mr moon i think every member of think i would ask for your consideration future nominations is solved now is missing on this major commission this is one of our major commissions and i think we need to look at currently who are a key districts especially in the area of requirements and as well as revenues and expenses and so i would ask that in the future we be given some consideration for a very respectful and filled in integrity and he applies with sincere good intentions but i've served under fire commission we've had heavy situations so we had deal with chiefs or the chief or the department and the administration and it was a task that at times was not very favorable  evaluations and then also to i served on a commission it hired the present administration that we have that tool was not an easy task we've also had to perception because we didn't we don't have an we didn't have a time in the retired firefighters just the fact that this applicant and  if i remove his face or remove his name because our families go way back but i'm trying to be very objective to see how we avoid that perception went because i've received calls from firefighters al this thing firefighters how will this not be conflicting how will a far more tally achieve that comes from the rank of the existing administration how are the that individual will be handle the conflict and i cannot speak for the individual though i trust his judgment but again you have a whole pile of firefighters that are looking into this and then and then to add another layer of a commissioner from our little island of molokai appreciate how you guys can value what we bring to the table  but i question your faults i question how you folds go through and write the applications i and i don't expect you to answer me but i am in a very awkward position today as the council member from all ok i find it i have to ask myself what is the right thing to do so that the hundred of other firefighters are not feeling conflicted and trusting the purpose of the fire commission and why it was created to begin with saw i don't understand how you guys do it and you don't have down answer me i just don't i just want the people  to understand that i think this is the toughest decision i would have to consider at the time of impress but this is a very well qualified person and maybe not for the fire because he is extremely dedicated to the fire department the fire commission plays a big different role who has complete oversight and evaluation for the fire department and the administration and how it follows through there's nothing that says we cannot do this i hope to change that hopefully some day so that the applicant is not put in this position and you've also not put in that position were not put in that position quite unfair to allow this process to be dealt this way i don't know what you guys are thinking but you know this this gentleman is our top of the line but the conflict i feel this serving as a recent retired kalyan chief is we're putting this gentleman in an awkward position and the rest of the missioners as well as the existing administration so i've had this conversation with you miss i'm alina so thank you  the same as mr bill i and i feel we're on this one somebody so new off of retiring from the fire department and then having oversight over the fire department yeah that the experience is good and fresh but you know if there are issues with any of the folks and i don't have any doubt that mr to take i will  would be very fair but the perception on the other side looks iffy the other concern the bigger concern i have is if you have been pushing putting out a call for members of this commission and didn't get anything from key hey how come i wasn't you know usually you come and ask and say hey can you find somebody from your district just you know no word nothing so i'm a little disappointed at that as well you know public safety and police commissioner are both very important while they're all very important but they're similar commissions and i would like to see him serve on a commission maybe public police you know because they they work together already and know some of their ins and outs so i'm guessing and i know there's the same issue on the police commission and it's going to be coming up so you know i just would like to know if in the future if you don't have folks from south maui that you'll come to or in the district you come to the members of the district and say hey who do you know or who might be interested in you give us   based on his experience that he could be a valuable asset on the fire commission and knowing mr tung and his integrity if he is ever put into any situations where there are conflicts or multiple conflicts we will certainly approach him about it and if he certainly feels uncomfortable the possibility of should you confirm him but down the road if he has conflicts i'm sure he has the integrity to consider possibly written resigning because we certainly don't want to put anyone into a situation where they're involved in multiple conflicts i do know this issue of perception but of course we like to look at actual conflicts but nonetheless we certainly one don't want to make any of our nominees put them any on in any uncomfortable positions on our boards of commissions where they're making some very important decisions so that's what you know i can see on my behalf with regards to any conflicts some stitcher of course you have missed in tokyo for he'd also like to provide a comment or sometimes perception outweighs what reality can be what people perceive to be true issue mitchell do you feel now mr think that you could handle any situation and if necessary and you felt a personal feeling towards a certain individual certain situation that you could if you needed to remove yourself from of old or at least emphasize that there is a shore and all my supervisors in the past whether in the fire department or of it was sure that i have always done and tried to do the best be letting me make those right decisions with my peers but he was right for the community and that lies in my heart what is right for surely right for the community i have no trouble if the situation comes to remove myself but i understand everyone's concern about having previous ties but they were crucial and i pride myself on doing the right thing what is right for  arm do the right thing it comes easy to me hard hearted times about a lot of times things lay out itself and you feel what is right and you can see with the information the that you have to make the right decisions i also how long have you been retired from the fire department short of two years or thank you and you know the final last this final question and hearing what you said and knowing you as well as i do i really don't have a lot of and make sure that every district is representative as much as possible and that's not always possible and we've had those issues but you know qualified candidate like respecting cryo is not a problem lying again i understand the i'm sorry we put you in this position but again like you said when when it's time to make hard decisions you've always been willing to take on the opportunity and i appreciate that and whether you approve or not we'll see what happens but i want to thank you upfront for your generosity to come forward and put yourself through this because again it doesn't it takes a very special person to come out to volunteer and then get scrutinized on top by that and how it's not you know not everybody wants to do this you know and i want to the issues i find really difficult in our environment today we want people to volunteer yet we want to scrutinize everything they do and you know it is what it is  yes i believe you and i have had a very intense conversation about possible recommendation that would come within i i just want people to know that i they feel whether or not they have the perception my feeling that they are warranting a conflict they never know how they will take the matter and then there's the question why was the commission created to begin with for   half hour firefighters themselves in an aside from their bargaining unit so i want to thank you and what whatever the outcome will be i i know you come with much thank you very much mr tanko for volunteering to be on the commission this is a really hard situation here you know normally we pick close attention to the recommendations of a district representative because we couldn't a few like you know they know the person better than we do they know the situation in their community i find this one very difficult it is difficult because i've known this town go family from my early days at  and it's rough i understand perception i understand that no matter what situation we're talking about there is always the potential for people to feel that there's a conflict of interest and for every person who feels that there has one there's another person who feels that there is none and so it kind of leaves us here having to make a decision you know a perception and as mr victorian a very wisely said what is perceived is which is very difficult because to a person who believes that it's real no matter what you told him to believe i really feel that we have an exceptional candidate here and i think that this kind of a background is difficult to find and also somebody who is willing to give his personal time because these commissions do take a lot of time and they're not easy you make tough decisions but knowing this family and knowing its standards i feel fairly comfortable in giving you a chance and i am going to do that based on the fact that i trust you that if you feel that you're uncomfortable and it's not working that under the code if you're one year you have to be more than one year removed in order to avoid the conflict or do business with the county is that correct if you are a former employee and then you retired or resigned you have to wait out one year before you can do business with the county is that correct the perceptions begin all repeat it one more time a person's perceptions or their reality and it puts the commission to put you in the puts of culture in a really about please i'm sorry it came  question of knowledge or the ability to do a good job i think it comes down to what you feel is important and i'm going to call by saying that all of us have to make a decision that's why we're here we make our decisions each and every day on other matters and still i would like to make my recommendation we if there's no further discussion yes miss thank you m particular is the most difficult animals uncomfortable position i am put in in regards and it's not like i say i remove the face i remove the badge i remove the individual i look at the commission first of all it's a fire commission and the fire commission receives and investigate complaints brought forth by the community as well as the to evaluate and the existing administration and then to appoint and hire new a new administration is travis capable is this individual capable yes he is but again it you don't remove twenty five years of your experience in the fire department and can actually say it  doesn't matter because i wear the commissioner's hat and i say it's uncomfortable the at this time i cannot accept the application as a retired but kalyan chief to serve on the commission is this an easy statement for me to make not at all very very difficult i live with these families i go to church it is families they campaigned for me they support me politically but i have to address this as objective as i can in meeting the finish area responsibility that i have as a council member representing all of my wee county and whether or not that is for over two hundred firefighters or one firefighter there are concerns and you know what i people would say wow this is a political suicide for not the politics it's shame on this process that they have put us in this position and have allowed mr tend to be in this position  to so that we have to and it's not a scrutiny i think it comes out with nothing but positive nothing but goodness but we cannot overlook the purpose of the fire commission thank you thank you any other comments if not i'd like to make my recommendation thank you i would like to move oh i would like to entertain a motion to approve and put on three no thank you very much and one excuse and thank you and again we should think i owe i apologize in you know he'd i do i do look upon the administration and putting us in this position is said and you know i hope in the future mr molina and you can send this message is a strong message from me and all of the council members is let's do our homework a little bit better and let's try to avoid these kinds of conflicts because you know it makes us all feel very comfortable we have a qualified candidate and put us in a position for which now you know some people are going to take offense to what we how we voted oh well that's the way life is you know i've learnt to live with that but that's not the point the it more palatable for the public then the applicant so you get more volunteers this makes people want not to volunteer and that's all i have to say about that and now i think we have to move on to the next nomination next commission yes thank you chair a proposed resolution entitled appointment of members to the hon advisory committee for the county of maui along with completed application forms for the nominees the purpose of the proposed resolution is to approve or disapprove the nomination of linda clark to the heart of advisory committee for a term beginning april first two thousand and sixteen and expiring march thirty first two thousand we had to do the whole resolution over again so please of my apologies you know just the way the procedures have been set forth so any discussion of questions and we guards to miss clark i know it was approved but i was told we had to recommendation then i will look to make an entity in a motion to approve the nomination of linda clarke to the hon advisory commission starting april first two thousand and sixteen and proposed resolution entitled appointment of members to the hot advisory committee for the county of mally along with completed application forms for the nominees the purpose of the proposed resolution is to approve or disapprove the mayor's nomination  be meeting of the policy and in the government affairs committee will reconvene i have been informed we do not have to do a reconsideration as far as g suite is concerned so i will then now turn to the administration first to give hamilton and rainy and also harper's union apprentice and then also working for the state with the deal in our forestry and wildlife so she's had a wide array of experiences that we believe can be an asset to the on advisory committee and  is told us that she certainly has the time to participate and i believe the monthly meetings or as called for depending on what the issues are and how to so with that being said and chairman we certainly appreciate the support of the committee thank you thank you very much  chair victory no and the county council members thank you for giving me this opportunity to come and introduce myself personally my better known as aloha lani that's my middle name but i wanted to share with you that sorry anyway i yeah i'm very interested in this on the advisory committee i was raised on my way from forty seven years and i was married for thirty one years to a small rancher out  couple i have three children seven grandchildren and i actually started my career in management and supervision at age sixteen believe it or not my career change though when i worked for the university of hawaii the national park as well as d l in our force tree and wild life what happened was that protecting the natural resources is there something that i really took to and working in the states fire rescue team i was a logistics coordinator so i really had the passion for protection whether it was resources versus people well i also was a license first respond r but what happened and changed my life drastically was my house fire in two thousand and five the earthquake came two thousand and six so i was dealing with a personal disaster as well as a community disaster we didn't have an association at the time so back then in two thousand and six we revamped the association and i served as the secretary there then back in two thousand and thirteen again  trailer and i also proposed to the land division of d l in our home i used to work with as well for the couple community the property there the old couple school i am an american red cross natural disaster leadership team member volunteer and i sit on the we counsel so i am constantly in the community meeting i mean it's very  exhausting a lot of commitment and nobody right now i'm working with the night he could community association and sharing my disaster plan with them so that we can have something solid for them and in april i will do a presentation feeling that your heart is in it i just would like to elaborate have you elaborate a little bit more on some of your ideology being on the on advisory committee you're going to be faced with issues concerning economic development for heart itself as well as planning and you also have to balance that with keeping honohan or so how do you what is your i guess your ideology in increasing economic development while still maintaining the heart of feel that's a hard one with the you've got to balance the economy with the issues that hanna has passion for and so by sitting there i  you know i feel that if i listen to the people and learn and understand the issues more in depth i kind of got a grasp on everything but you know to be there on the border and being aware of what's going on thing to tackle it's not something simple like a small little community association you know what else to say but i'll do my best thank you thank you any comments or disabilities for a term beginning april first twenty six trillion and expiring march thirty first twenty issue that surfaced the first time that he came before you it was with regards to his volunteer ship in california so he leaves the island for a time and i'm trying to recall it was for the police commission in their county or fire commission  know we are an aquatic sex for business redo aquariums ponds pools you know we're just very blessed to be a part of nobody my former background and somewhat still current seasonal police officer for california but this is a very minimal thing it's one or two weeks out of the year for up to training and patrol work it's more because i'm selfish i want to let it go than anything else i should lose money leaving the island to go do that so it's really no different than going on vacation for anyone anyone else for some it is the year or so doesn't take anything away from the commission position so i would like to vote to continue on this and accomplish things for the county thank you i will open the floor for questions for the nominee mr because one thank you so i assume that the reason why you keep your part time position in california is that you have family independent business owner or molly board construction incorporated and as you will notice not had any prior community service in any boards or commissions but my understanding is very active with his church and out this was an opportunity he felt that he'd like to give back in this capacity with the commission of persons with disabilities he did indicate to me he does have the time to make the monthly meetings and we certainly have emphasized that point to him as you know construction and may be somewhat busy but he will certainly make the time many if he does miss meetings he is aware that we will certainly ask him to consider resigning should you approve his nomination and would regards his application i believe the first application was sent without political affiliation i believe we've sent you an amended one but i'll state for the record he is a registered republican so all make that point the to you today and now with that being said mr chairman i yield the floor thank you i'm sorry to interrupt but i just got an e mail from the opposite she's having a very difficult trouble hearing the numbers so they could speak directly into the microphone ok members please if you would speak directly into the it is there in your stack ok have any other comments or questions thank you anything else from the committee if not i'll make my recommendation to the commission on persons of disability fourth term beginning april first two thousand and sixteen and expiring march thirty first two thousand and twenty one so when it was moved by m now go back to the resolution as amended naming to the persons of this persons on the commission on persons of disabilities with disabilities excuse me  seen on all those in favor signify by saying i  and one excuse member it is ten thirty and i will give you your regular morning break could we have everybody back and i know this is really asking for a lot back by ten forty so that we can finish up the rest of the nominees ok this meeting now stands in recess  two nominees who have to leave pretty quickly now for the commission on children and youth and i'd like to call on both of those nominees to both of them let me start first of all saying one of them are council nominees these are nominees that were came to me and are interested in the commission on children and youth so i'd like to call on the two of them and i'll start with lucy feinberg because she has to leave and kristen hamm ond has to leave so she would you come up and see a few words and if you have any questions you can address the questions thank you mr feinberg for being here thank you so much for moving us up on he i just appreciate the opportunity i'm honored to be considered for this position with the commission i've been i've been a resident on maui since one thousand eighty six and involved with children and youth for many all of those  s so i think it would be a great opportunity to give to the commission thank you mr feinberg and i know of your work and i've seen you around this community and thank you very much any questions for the ne with the april first two thousand and sixteen expiring march thirty first two thousand and twenty one the chair move to pass the adopt a resolution relating to the appointment of lucy feinberg to the commission and children and nominated to this particular committee or commission since i left council service as i started my own law practice and i specialize in family law and special education course you know i have three of my own children  first two thousand and twenty one mr chair i move to adopt the resolution relating to the point of cures than him and to the commission on children and you think it's been moved by  any more discussion xenon all those in favor signify by saying i oppose let the record shows seven i used to excuse ok thank you very much thank you davies now let's go back yes thank you chairs a proposed resolution entitled appointment of members to the molokai planning commission for the county of maui along with completed application poems for each nominee the purpose of the proposed resolution is to approve the mayor's nomination of michael drew to the molokai planning commission for a term beginning april first twenty sixteen and expiring march thirty first twenty twenty one hello is mr trew in the  fellow planning commission member should you approve of him i don't know about much more to say prefer to what you are the microphone to mr drew i'm sure you could do a much better job and its commitment and we're certainly very appreciative of him making sure he has the time application so administration did well in their reviewing of this applicant i support mr drew you know he was put in a position where he had to deal with the permitting process and everything else when the kitchen at the hotel molokai burnt down so hands on is what he had to deal with as well as having the support of others to help him through the maze of having the kitchen up and running today and it's it's a beautiful renovation or or brand new kitchen so i think that that first of all brings commission for term beginning april first two thousand and sixteen and expiring march thirty first two thousand and twenty one robert c vinson to the more like high planning commission for a term beginning april first twenty sixteen and expiring on march thirty first twenty twenty one mr chair i believe mr stevenson is here in the audience today  brief introduction about yourself and what you'd like to be able to do with this commission or what you'd like to see done go ahead mr stevenson yes thank you chair thank you a law and the stacy aloha committee members my name is robert c vinson and i am grateful for the opportunity to have been nominated for this position here the open position on the motorcade planning commission and i feel that i bring some level of expertise in the business community and also in the policy and planning a rina to this to this position and i'm happy to serve at the will of the mayor and at the will administration went ahead with your application and is no question that you are very qualified to serve on the molokai planning commission you know when i first saw your name i had to go and do some which they are not doing their deliberations on with the community as well as the planning department and the commission so i thinking they're projecting for it to hopefully it's to the community plan that's going on now they're not silent so what's your thought as far as being a c pack member and i guess you'll start april first and you probably just maybe have just one meeting if they don't finish up by march thirty first or then goes further to say that you're a seat back member until all  back liberations and how do you think they're going to react to your nomination on the planning commission i realise i know you have half in the business community bettors of support and i thank them for supporting now your art your nomination but is that the business community that should shows up we know that at our planning commission meetings what can you give me your thoughts and do you see any kind of possible as you as this sit back member and going on as planning commission member very well thank you for the question it's a great question and i appreciate the opportunity to answer it i defer to the county attorney on whether or not there is a real conflict of interest and i believe the county attorney made an opinion that there was not however they say that there was a perceived possible conflict of interest it's also my understanding that the  nity plan review by them ok planning commission will conclude before my terrible begin and it's also my understanding that even though my term may begin on april first the first molokai planning commission meeting may not take place until some time thereafter which could be well after which is scheduled currently to be well after them ok when a commission submits them all committee plan for review to the county council if there if my nomination is approved then if i happen to become a part of the mulcaire planning commission and the review of the committee plan comes before that then i would seek the advice of corporation counsel to whether or not i could a participate in the discussion or be and or myself from any voting on any type of decisions that were made and i would also take the recommendations of the penny department staff and look to you as well and to stacy for recommendations on that as well and i would have no problem thoughts and that and again how do you perceive ours see the response from those that have been read to attending the planning commission meetings on a regular basis with your approval well i can't speak to anyone's response how them how they may respond if i become approved but i would certainly again deal with any perceived conflicts or statutory conflicts as advise by the county council and seeking your your advice as well ok thank you mr costello thank you mr chair i'm going to just skip all of that because i do have yourself it's my understanding that it's a pretty contentious community plan so i you know when you have a four to four vote that means the whatever the motion is would fail so i have a little bit of concerns i'm going to ask mr khushi now since the community plan advisory committee does not go away until the molokai community plan is adopted by the council and mr stevenson would be on the molokai planning commission would he have to recuse himself if for instance they they asked for an extension and were granted an extension and then they have to deliberate on the most community plan extensively mr khushi would you like to comment on this or answer mr occultist question yeah as best as i can recall i was of course you can you speak into  timeline issues there right now it has passed the c pac and it is before the mall akai planning commission this gentleman would be on serving on both at the same time technically and then it comes to us corporation counsel i would i would take that advice and i would be happy to exercise my right to resign from them or take me to plan advisory committee and if i was able to do it i would do it on the record at this moment and i most of our minds you said what you would do if that recommendation was brought forward you know yes you put in writing it's it's on record actually because it's been televised and we have the minutes of the meeting so it is there so thank you you know in all so i wanted t like to see if you could do that in writing because i think it's required in writing but i'm not sure what i think that will be up on his you know the corporation counsel so let corporate you counsel take it from there i believe we all know what the intent was and i think we know what the thank you very much chair and thank you very much mr stevenson for being here i know this is very difficult difficult for you and difficult for us however i do know you quite well and i know what you're doing the community and i know the support that you bring so i know it's hard for you to make that distinction and that you might have to resign from the seat back but on the plane if you when you get to the planning commission i guess you already know that seabeck took an awful lot of your time be ready for the pending commission and those meetings they're not short either yes thank you for the question yes is anyone who's attended a more k plan a commission meeting or watch them on our course who knows that they can they can extend quite lengthy but fortunately i'm self employed i have a company that we provide consulting services to numerous businesses on all kinds throughout the state and my work schedule is rather flexible so i'm able to create blackout dates and times well ahead in advance so if any client requirements come up i can let them know that i have blackout dates and times so i would be able to continue that  can thank you again very much and you know i don't know you long as i know the family that you married into and i know that you are a community people and i think it's wonderful thank you thank you thank you for your kind words more towards that cautionary suggestion for him to resign prior to getting this commission disappointed commissions so that's the puzzled look i have on my  my resignation to the mall community plan advisory committee and i'd like that noted in the record thank you and then you can do it in a formal way in writing and all that i would think that was my question mr mr grossman are you comfortable with that aspect  make my recommendation oh yes and i hear there's you can see there's difficulty in some of our nominees this morning and you know for in this particular case what i'm feeling is that you know there's a lack of i guess diversity and different perspectives and new eyes on the product basically he came from one level of it it's moved into it's going to go into the planning same said same person sense not disregarding it at all whatsoever but the point is there's a whole other body that should be overspill relooking this document and it's the same person you know i mean what i'm trying to say so i would have preferred to see and it's nothing against that we can't whatsoever but  like i said a different set of eyes a different perspective on the document itself so that's kind of my i guess uncomfortable ness of this and and it always seems that when you come you present all this stuff and whenever we have questions or comments or would like things done a little differently or more thoroughly what have you always see i'll take it back to administration but is this not your  this and so what rule do you play in the selection and in the video now in the decision making process that brings these nominees to us and you know how it is here having been here way longer than i have  i would think that your voice in your input would you know a lot of weight to this process being that you have been here where we're sitting so what i guess what role do you play in the selection disagreement among stuff like in my case i may offer my thoughts and sometimes an agreed with and sometimes i'm not but it's unfortunate part of the process and i certainly understand and i apologize and sort of empathize with you what all of you are going through with this morning because if i mean a word and i apologize for it it's a lot like damned if you do and damned if you don't then even sometimes you get all the facts you see that there are times when even all the facts are not enough you just have to make a judgment call on your own personal feeling and basis but my job is again to try and vet out the nominee as much as possible look at potential conflicts and sometimes there are times when we may not see things that you see and which is why we have this process so council members have you know like with anything else if you have a different set of eyes looking at the same subject you may get some things that can be uncovered so certainly you know your job is not easy and you know we read i stated before i i take back your comments and i'm sure the administration views and hears what you have to say but maybe the best person to ask as to why the final decisions are made with nominations is to ask the mare or the rest of the administration what was the rationale for submitting this person as a nominee i thank you very think you for those comments  miller yeah i understand you do the best that you can when you have to deal and and so do you folks i mean this is this is your job you you have to vet out every nominee and there are times when you're not going to make some tough calls i can recall when i was on a council years ago voted against my neighbor who wanted to be on a border collie that was tough and so cosmic rebel i certainly know what what you're going through as well so it's not easy it's a tough job and it's a special job that not everybody can do but you have to again sometimes use your own personal judgment the best you can and go from there but we'll continue to work on you know trying to address as many concerns as you have and make it as painless a process as possible but again this whole process is certainly not yes he's submitting his resignation to see back and i guess today is discomfort day for me and it's you know it's what i have to deal with as the council member from from my but i you know looking at this overall you know and i think rob very dedicated i think showed up at every seat that meeting and he also brought up balance contrary sometimes to a lot of the vocals that were there at the meeting perhaps but very  consistent in trying to provide you know a fair opinion of his but when i go up and then the easy way out is to have him resign when you have  concurrent or consecutive service on the back and then the more planning commission sometimes i think it may raise policy concerns but the laws we  require for additional layer of review by the planning commission after this back suggests that each and to me that's where independence comes comes aboard you know again it has nothing to do it perception it's a matter of if you're independent of what the body that you participated in that submitted to the planning commission for its review and you know there's no law contrary to all that but something i wonder what it what the spirit of the law of the policy what is not legally or ethically prohibited no no none of that because we're mr sometimes good to contact you are people from the districts so that we can have the dialogue to say how are we going to conclude to this because of this or how do you recommend this and  you know we're able to go out there and check the pushes to find other members to sarah but you know i am going to wait for the chairs recommendation on this but heat on our concerns and prevent this from happening but as it is it doesn't happen and i hope that the administration in i will forward a letter with again a number of these concerns that have been brought up today i don't know how lawful that is i mean i guess you really can't tell the administration what to do but you can at least make your concerns known so that that is my plan want this is all completed so if there's no further discussion i'd like to make my recommendation recommendation that you would like to entertain a motion to approve the nomination and put on see schedule b there of roberge stevenson two d molokai planning commission fourth term beginning april first two thousand and sixteen and expiring march thirty first two thousand and twenty one so it be moved by community plan and we got his word that he is not going to he's going to resign i still you know it still has to go to counseling i don't see written resignation before count so i may have to change my guzman thank you i so i also concur with my colleague from here as well i have reservations this matter but i'll move it forward ok thank you very much any more completing what we've got to do because where we're anticipating another resignation and then all of that planning commission great thank you mr prevail again see no further discussion of course for the question all those in favor say the five by saying i  oppose let the record show seven i know nose and two excused ok thank you very very much now i'd like to go back to the resolution and move i like to entertain a motion entitled appointment of members to the police commission for the county of mally read along with completed application form for the nominee the purpose of the proposed resolution is to approve or disapprove the mayor's nomination of may fujiwara to the police commission for a term beginning april first twenty sixteen and expiring march thirty first twenty twenty one ok mr morley now you're  bring a very good perspective from that of our senior community with the needs as it relates to the police department which is why we felt with her experience it could certainly be helpful to the commission's decision making so that being said the you know members of the council i thank you for considering me to be appointed to the police commission i currently serve on the salary commission but my term expires next month so  be able to attend any police commission meeting and i would like to continue to serve our community in whatever way i can and as president of the planning and couldn't a big council consisting of over all representatives of over fifty senior organizations in the county of maui and sensible meena said i could bring the perspective of our senior population to the commission and i am aware ok thank you chair and again we're short of somebody from south maui and west maui on this one and yet we have one and call who is because the call who remembers going off but we have know the police commissioner there are a lot of people or applicants that do apply i guess when we looked at central mali we tended to look at why the as one but maybe for the future we should look at it more you please our office is very open to submit any names if you'd like us to consider them and please have the applications and we'll make sure we do a better job at making sure all applications are signed and that political affiliation with its causes least slips us ok to cheer would like to entertain a motion to approve the nomination and put on schedule be that of me for you are for the nomination to the police commission starting april first two thousand and sixteen and ending and or expiring on march thirty first two thousand and twenty one it was moved by mr culture and i'm going to give m as chair opposed resolution and title appointment of members to the police commission for the county of maui along with completed application forms for the nominees the purpose of the proposed  to approve or disapprove the mayor's nomination of eugene santiago to the police commission for a term beginning april first twenty sixteen and expire in march thirty first twenty twenty one and i would note for the record mr santiago the police commission requires a member to be on the police commission and he would be replacing poncho on his term expires i believe that mr very involved in the community with youth organizations and faith based groups as well and he's indicated to us he does have the time and certainly would be honored to serve on the commission again we like the fire commissioner how many we felt m different members in the commission but having had a successful career with the model police department understand the needs in the goals of the police department as well as the needs of the community it is my hope that i will have an opportunity to work with the commission in maintaining a healthy balance between the police department and the commission and the community where the justice and this is something i've always been big on during my time with the police department is maintaining justice and equality when know it's again this is discomfort day and it's not based on your application it's based on the appointment to the department that you've retired from and it's no bearing on your integrity or how much people have respect for you as well as myself and all of your good intentions  but you know i think the application with the fire department coming up open the doors and not saying that i am in agreement with the process as far as serving on commission i've also seen in the past where retired police officers from oh we have applied for the police commission and they kind of been routed to gold go under fire commission instead of seen on their police commission and that has happened we have retired police officer i think from the mainland but not necessarily from the county that being set for you as a  mission statement of fairness integrity compassion and service so i trust that our in our leaders even from the top you know follow that particular mission and  i trust that everyone within the police department to understand the responsibilities that they hold in serving the community and so having been very familiar with that process my intentions is really to be able to provide that kind of balance with the citizens of county i've seen where maybe because of lack of experience most of them lack of leadership you  have a question you you know although i know you very well and i thank you for the house standing really you did mention that you were approached in your comment you were approached for the position who approached you or you know playing for the commission and i had no idea at the time i had no intentions because i didn't really know you know how the what the scheduling for business with the county council was at the time but when he did make mention i thought it would be a great opportunity to look at the possibility of this opportunity and so i you know problem application for that purpose ok thank you thank you other questions of comments on to the no scene i would like to make my recommendation thank you the chair would like to entertain a motion to approve or put on schedule be the nomination of  santiago to the police commission for a term beginning april first two thousand and sixteen and expiring march thirty first two thousand and twenty one  russia now that i present it with our applicant for the fire commission again eugene santiago is a ex outstanding member of our community and with our youth i just have a problem again going to remove the face remove the name and just say i have a retired police officer who will be my family so you know again probably political suicide but i feel i need to voice that as a basis on the so it's it's we never let it happen before and so i guess the next step would be to make it for some sort of charter amendment going forward with this but thank you gene and i know we've had our  if they think the nominees should be considered for these special commissions specially those retired police and fire those said and maybe others you know i am not sure maybe it's time to let the  charter amendment be brought forth and let them decide that way the people will speak and then we can go from there and maybe this will be resolved by that manner or will still be uncomfortable and i've not very good today but again like i said earlier and i'll continue to repeat knowing these these are these people and their integrity i have no question that i trust their decisions will always be for the betterment of the community county and what they have done in the past brings a lot of knowledge to us to help us in the future so any other discussion is seen on all those in favor signify by saying i as amendment i and it in a motion to approve the resolution as amended putting the names of me for you are and eugene santiago to the appointment on the police commission application form for the nominee the purpose of the proposed resolution is to approve or disapprove the mayor's nomination of scott ins to the real property tax review board for a term beginning april first twenty sixteen and expiring  march thirty first twenty twenty one for the record chair i know there is only one nominee for this board so you could include the resolution in your motion ok thank you very much and i shall do that including the resolution ok mr and he's expressed an interest in serving he's certainly a man that used to dealing with numbers and is aware that the review board is a very busy commission and he has indicated to us that he does have the time to serve and with that being i've been a resident maoists two thousand and two so fourteen years ago when i first came here i was a director of sales and marketing for blue wind helicopters for three and a half years the same time i i got my real estate license in two thousand and three and i was practicing real estate on the side i've been practicing real estate full time since two thousand and six with island subsidies or national realty i previously served on the boards of the realtors association as  a technology committee member and most recently the for two thousand and fifteen i was a technology committee chair and i have a desire to now that i'm finished with that commitment i'd like to give back to the community and do something for the community and participate in something that goes with my experience and real estate and valuations so thank you thank you very much i will open the floor to questions to the nominee and i did get there right this time and i like to make my recommendation that you would like to entertain a motion or actually that you would like to entertain a motion to approve the resolution yes just no that's all right it's a good test for me it's monday morning it's a test ok so we're going to redo this all over again i'd like to make i like to entertain a motion to approve the resolution and moving the name of mr scott in those two schedule b for approval of the what i was just now see now you got me so confused i forgot what i was real property tax review board for beginning april first two thousand and sixteen and  expiring march thirty first two thousand and twenty one thank you mr chair i move to adopt the resolution in title appointment of a member of the shoe the real property tax review board for the county of maui by moving  take up item two and three together so that you could move back and forth between the board of water supply nominees yeah that's right go ahead ok i don't number two correspondents stated february twenty third two thousand and sixteen from the chair of the committee transmitting a proposed resolution untitled relating to the appointment of shape chair hodges to the board of water supply the purpose of the proposed resolution is to approve or disapprove the a plan in the shade chan hodges to the board of water supply for a term beginning april first twenty sixteen and expire in march thirty first twenty twenty one ladies and gentlemen we do not have the administration because this was a council driven appointee so i will call me charges up to the podium and have her have her opening comments and we can then open the floor  position as many of you probably know i've lived on maui for twenty four years and i've been active in the community throughout that time i have served on the committee on the status of women that was quite a while ago and been active in boards and commissions but in the democratic party and also in my community because i have been raising my two sons one is a senior high school and one is a freshman in pennsylvania at franklin and marshall college  lot of my community activity has been focused on children and youth and to be honest i did consider submitting my name for that committee but i also noticed that on the board of water supply there was only one woman and i do have a lot  of concerns about broad representation diversity especially gender diversity in our population does have to be fifty percent women so i am glad to see three women who are applying for this position  sorry i lost my train of thought oh but my work is in grant writing for the most part so i am very aware of different kinds of social issues in our community i write grants for a low house my family recovery my youth and family services  u united way i do that as a volunteer and my expertise i believe has a lot to do with looking at big picture issues and looking at  sort of look at the big picture as far as what everybody's needs are and clearly with water we need to be focused on making sure that we have a delivery of clean water and affordable price for our families but we also have to be looking down the road and as i have to basically young adult children as i'm looking down the road as to what's going to be available for my children and my grandchildren and how do we meet the needs of everybody and look at all of that i know that we have the water and development plan coming up that is extremely important i absolutely do not have the expertise of somebody like lucy and in a and i would definitely love it if if i were to be chosen that lucien was also on the commission because obviously that's extremely important to have that kind of effort expertise i feel that what i bring to it is more of a sort of commonsense big picture like i said perspective and as someone whose kids are now  out of the nest almost very close i look forward to the opportunity to contribute to the community in a different way than i happen for the last few years as far is in areas like water and planning  kind of number we're going to finish it with rules us all over ok questions for the nominee ok now with your permission i want to let all tree nominee speak before i start asking member ellie cochran transmitting a proposed resolution titled relating to the appointment of antoinette the c m to ne to the board of water supply the purpose of the proposed resolution is to approve or disapprove the appointment of antoinette lucy to the port of water supply for a term beginning april first two thousand and sixteen and expiring march thirty first twenty twenty one thank you very much for the day are you know you're standing there with reckless abandon to come up come on  be considered for the board of water supply i have attended many many meetings of the board of water supply over the last twenty years i've known quite a few folks who have served on the board of water supply including mr come by whose term i believe this one of the expired ones and it is an area i'm deeply interested in water you all know that i've devoted a lot of time to trying to figure out stuff about our water  situation water resources water systems i visited i think every one of our county wells i've visited our three water treatment plants are for water treatment plant including the the one that's being expanded i've always just been interested in this this topic so this is a wonderful opportunity for me to serve i have served on one county commission which was the general plan advisory commission i am humbly proud to say that of the three years i served i missed only one meeting so i have a very good track record for attendance there i am currently  n a broad citizens advisory it's not really a group it's sort of assemblage of folks that is being asked for input on the water use and development plan i've attended the two meetings on  that but other than that i am not currently serving on any county advisory groups or commissions i know that's kind of a topic here today i have in the past though i've served on way back at the time of mayor upon i've served on the open space advisory group to come up with the open space zoning ordinance i've served on the infrastructure rates advisory plan for three years to come up with some impact fees for improve infrastructure purposes and i've served on the line a bypass community advisory task force that was chaired by that time by mr white when he was not a council member i served on that for two years so i'm footloose and fancy free right now and i would appreciate your support if you find mr turn thank you mr ney for being here just have a couple questions are you on the board of my hour tomorrow i am i am actually the chair tomorrow as of january seventeenth and how about the sierra club i am on the board of the sierra club i am not an officer i'm a conservation chair which is a committee chair ok thank you other questions for the  here in light of what is shared with the motherboard involvement yes i it was called to my attention that there is a suit pending against the motor planning commission and understanding was this had something to do with the sierra club and there is a suit against the planning commission and it mean that she's on the board is that a concern that's a question i was asked and i don't know what the answer is well we nominees for the board of water supply i understand but you know i don't know if that was about any legal concern or not of confidence and that's where i need help because i'm not a lawyer is that i do want to say though in you know in light of asking this question i do know i do you know missed in a very well and i do know of her knowledge of water and how passionate she has been about helping but i don't want this to become a problem afterwards  they are advisers to the department and to this party and to the mayor they also review departmental budgets proposal water rates and fees and other duties as prescribed hammer if you want to have that the applicant being a member of an active organ of organizations in active litigation with the department would pose a problem or a conflict disqualifier for being a member of the board but this is in this case you have several occasions where she cannot be involved i'm just i'm just sick you know but again it's not a blanket  openly i do want to point out that the reason that maui tomorrow as an organization has been involved in east maui is because there is a process for asking forced morter to be restored to streams which is a county policy it's in our county wide policy planets in our maui island plan that there be a minimum stream flow standards be revised and set and that in itself it's a petition  what happened was there was an appeal of the decision on that petition the petition started back in two thousand and one and a petition is not a lawsuit against the county a petition is the only way that you can actually move forward to change anything is to file this petition the contested case was not filed by mail it tomorrow it was filed by the native hawaiian legal corporation dr who was appointed the hearings officer this is east maui asked mally tomorrow to come back in as a plaintiff because they had been involved in the original petition which was not a law suit it was a just a procedure in front of the commission so i don't know if that makes any difference to anybody but you know tech technically maui tomorrow was in could you did in this contested case we did not see ourselves as being against the county we felt that there was enough water for everybody but you needed to everybody needed to get the facts on the table so of course if anything it's my understanding that the board of water supply does not have any purview over any of these matters because they're dealing with things that are more like water rates appeals on people's water meters and  know general long term policy comment on general long term policy i don't think they're asked to sign off on legal settlements but i may be wrong mr coo she would know far better than i if that were the case and if i were fortunate enough to be appointed of course i would reveal that you know i was an officer or a board member of an organization that was involved in the settlement and recuse myself from any you know voting on it as as the rules provide but in my experience in observing the board of water supply over the years is that various folks have served who had you know very specific interests that sometimes conflicted with the county's water policy and you know they just revealed what those were further questions for the nominee question actually no question but this is the nominee that i presented forward and i'm glad that all of these questions are surfacing and for me i really put a lot of weight behind the c n c knowledge in our water waterworld here in our county and them and she's as you can see very open and honest too about answering questions and just being straightforward an addressing things head on and have every ounce of faith and trust in her for that time i wasn't asking for anything of that nature at this point but you know we just we just wanted questions and that's fine thank you any other questions for the nominee of a common no comment i'm not going to as no more comment so i got to move on because i go on untitled relating to the appointment of amber no savage to the board of water supply the purpose of the proposed resolution is to approve or disapprove the appointment of amber no savage to the board of water supply for a term beginning april first twenty sixteen and expiring march thirty first twenty twenty one amber go ahead good afternoon karen elson member i'm sorry i'm nervous like first time  some of you know i'm a mom of a four year old and i'm a member of soar optimists an active member of grow some of which puts and school gardens in the community and i've been active in the community in various non profits  and service projects so this was a report that i was interested in because i i am a full time realtor so water is a side issue that we have to all be aware of and there have been issues that have been coming up there's one in particular that i'm actually excited about it's the the i don't know if this is appropriate to talk about but unlike miss lucy and i don't have the experience in the background she has and unlike mission share i am not as i don't have the history in the community that she does but what i do bring to the board is or to the table is fresh energy and perspective and i'm not particularly bias or prejudice the issue that got me excited about the water supply issue is the e m i issue that we've been hearing about i actually think it's a great opportunity because we no longer do sure again and the amount of water that's required to sustain that can be u sed for other resources and i think it's a great opportunity for us to open communication and see how we can we reuse our resources and like be able to have our i guess the water help our farms and our local businesses work with the hawaiian community that wants to bring it back to the streams and i believe there is did you pursue this or were you approached or what is the how did you come about being a nominee i've always been interested in  part of the community and to be able to participate and many of my friends and colleagues are aware of that and when they heard that there were seats available on the board they said hey is this something you might be interested in because you know it's an issue i said yeah and who is  there a friend in particular is david writes he said hey this is available ok thank you ok thank you for the questions or for the no let me see how i want to handle this because you get three for two i like that three for two you know like that and we chose was two for three then i would have a problem so what i'll do is this i work my way from the very top starting sixteen an extract expiring march thirty first two thousand and twenty one so moved it was moved by we took out sick in it i missed by so it's afternoon i'm tired i got it ok any more discussion yes mr coach thank you mr chair and you know we raked mr molina over the coals for this one and so now it's our turn to is a person from key here there yes so our choice is either to people from haiku or to people from ky hey so the same thing that we gave mr molinaro who to give this one ok all right so that's where these came from this was a special requests by this council in this chair for these names so that's where they came from ms myself just a brief comment you know i've been paying attention to party affiliation and i think she fits well thank you thank you any other comments seen on all those in favor of the appointment of  folks that came out and wanted to put themselves up for discussion two of which are new to the the process which is very good we have new folks in there and one of which that has very good qualifications the only concern i have is there are questions on you know litigation people come into court again and again and speak against the county so we have two people who don't have that concern there and one that does so i  this point i can't support this one unless of course the same thing that we did for mr stevenson is if there's any resignations and that's fine but because of the affiliations with the n all the information all over involvement not is a member but just as a member of the public again she knows our history she knows we're well oh there's no learning curve for her as a matter of you cannot find a person that has a history that she has right now she is one of a few like myself that has been there thank you and any other comments for teacher yeah i also agree with mr carroll in terms of the stand in his integrity i believe that if there is an issue that arises she will disclose  any type of conflict of interest she may have i think she cheap brings to the table a history of knowledge in a way that others do not have or would like to acquire i know that she work with the ag working group and finding out some he's working on some solutions on our water issues so i wholeheartedly support her nomination at this point thank you and your other questions  dedication i've sinned and knowledge i do acknowledge the conflict it seems like today's the day of conflict really it's just been unusual i mean i've never seen so much discussion about  however you know we have them everywhere and we just gotta live with them and assumed the individuals that are involved will have the integrity to announce them and or avoid them when they come up i don't think there's any discussion about those in a need to discuss her ability to to present and bring something to the board of water supply i do think that it will be up to the tear of the board what is supplied to make sure that these conflicts are handled and that everybody conduct and conducts themself appropriately i i have seen everywhere that i can think of where i go and you know i'm very concerned with water is the water resources chair and i know that she will bring a certain amount of knowledge in certainly let's get a handle business to the to the board of what is a play i do want to remind everyone that they are  advisory you know in many many cases they are advisory and that the council water resources committee and other people have the final scene a lot of things but they will they can vet out a lot of things for us and so i'm going to hope for the best far ahead because i've made it a point to not only know what she knows but know more about it and i don't i also make it a point to know the state you know because whatever happens here is affected by our entire state why only decisions and all of that is a part of what we do here in mal county anything else if not a call for the question all those in favor of seeing the fight by saying i oppose let the record show one one two five six years is one opposed and two excused we're already have two when we get three now i'm going to see because he was our nominee all of my nominees i will turn to her and ask her if she would wait for another chance down the road as far as the nomination is concerned ok so let me handle that my way ok peace and use amber would you be of men to waiting to the next time that maybe another commission opens up or even the water because i think there may be another opening in the near future so would your be amendable for us to for me i'd like to confer with corporation counsel if withdrawing the nomination is enough or if it needs to be filed the resolution i mean who she should i file the nomination present other is one of those unusual today is very uncomfortable go right ahead submit a formal withdrawal ok all right then i would make a recommendation for a former withdraw for the nomination of amber is chair i would like to move to file that one resolution the resolution relating to the point of amber no savage to the board of water supply no this is that would be sufficient for which all you fall that resolution corporation guide for once you receive the written withdrawal from the applicant then you can follow communication ok no objections ok go ahead and thank you very much committee members at the february tenth meeting there was an issue brought up with regards to the training of board and commission members dropped off some documents as to what the mayor's office gives to our all of our new members and also the departments that oversee our various boards and commissions the planning department oversees eight they have the most they provide additional rules for the committee members as it relates to their duties and then second the forthcoming from the department with their reasons why they would like you to consider possible abolishment of that commission and this finally the subject a council member and some of you have also hit on the gender balance issue  certainly it was made clear to us that our planning commission has only one female on there we will address that come the next round of vacancies for the record on your mast vacancy list that you received late january there are thirty seven names on there and three females so it is a slow work in progress but we will certainly agree with you that there needs to be a little bit more balance on all of our ports and commissions so we will continue to work at it and and thank you again members to you and myself and the administration we sheets your comments and it was certainly a very very tough day for you and you all certainly earned your money and you know admiration from the public for your hard work thank you and i want to make sure that you all are in receipt as of january twenty second two thousand and sixteen a list of all the boards and commissions any vacancies other than what we are approved today and their location and their gender their party affiliation and all the things you want to me i mean sure everyone got  so and if you want further updates and there it is online so you can go online and get that so without any further objections the meeting of the policy and interim government affairs