y coming up behind someone there charged with the knowledge they had the taking of prudent steps to research that they could have found out and that's what we're concerned we don't even have to get that far of could they have found out through believe currently has nine hundred thousand dollars somewhere around there however everyone that lives in chicago would find it odd that a little segment of unincorporated here and seventy nine years i don't believe so but it is this individual live or was she restored then monetary restitution that's what the petition for really gets for but before we get to that issue we need to dress the issue of whether or not service was proper i and that's what this could be how how does that rob anybody of jurisdiction it's a form or it's a form their form affidavit that she filed it doesn't allow  i can't speak to why no us will gobble why wasn't it offered your honor the issue becomes we when we have substitute service in this case by a non appointed individual we have to have strict  apparent to one not a lawyer who doesn't do this for defense and plaintiffs understand that there was a problem with the service that's the question everyone is tasked with knowing a lot whether it's a pro but i'm telling you there's a part of chicago that is into ph county much to the chagrin of many many many people in bentonville so i just set up a so how do you know and that was all over the news it was front page coverage for months so how can we say that anyone is chargeable with no one looking just at an address that's not  where where is it apparent that there's a basis for a need to inquire in my opinion your honor it is because the affidavit says they were pointed and there can be orders and read certainly not segments zip codes and websites well it's i have a problem with the idea that we have to take the we can because it's not a document we know that it's should have been a document but it's not so taking judicial notice of something that is supposed to be on the face of something means that well does it have any do we have any of the problems that this is like the rd party removed from the original proceedings because we have another producer in the middle with the don't we to this property and then we have  between at that point the bank and the borrower is moot neither of these parties have an interest that we can do anything about and the other thing i want to talk about in this case is the t y years the interest in the property is now completely vested in mr is that there is no longer a relationship between the bank and that property so if this judgment were to be opened up there's nothing we award from the petitioner that the parties are not any different are you trying to say that the status quo ante is no longer a reality or a possibility then where are you were when possibly cause an action for restitution taking property without due process of trying to figure out what the differences between washing use of service to correct or a reserve a and then putting in one of your counts a statement or allegations that the service was improperly affected and personal jurisdiction was never retained and therefore you want the foreclosure and sale judgment vacated i don't wonder i don't get this argument about why you want the service squashed where let's say for her hypothetical purposes  but one of the really interesting things you're asking for is that we rush through this and then your very last one is we will put this case on hold which means mr robinson he'd be served until such time as restitution is made you are don't have title they don't have an interest you're attempting to suggest that this thing is going to play monopoly we're going to go back to go everybody's going to get the bankroll and when you come around once you get two hundred dollars  the reality of the situation doesn't exist like there anymore and as you said there's no no well all that means is they can't sell the property of a sure sale doesn't mean they can't get a judgment to get your client unless they don't have