that these things were actually on a rare cases now where that becomes a critical part of the case is the fact that in these sequential evaluation of the curious that were held up here in the ve testified that if you have the the restrictions of occasional on these non exertional factors then there is work in the national economy whereas if you adopt and things that are are rare meaning meaning he could rarely then squat incline type of thing then in fact there are no jobs in the national economy for mr president so that becomes what i think why that's so inconsistent with the medical evidence and the other evidence in the record that we should find that's not supported by substantial evidence well that's i can say judges that are relying on the experience of dr doctor for  itself you know he goes for long periods of time without seeing anybody he relies and over the counter medicines not prescription things he he doesn't seem consistently to show the picture of somebody who morning david leavitt on behalf of the commission and it please the court the l j here was tasked with weighing the multiple opinions of dr floor that was his role as well as swing the other medical opinion following the regulations the l j gave substantial way to dr florence opinions through april two thousand and ten but less waste of those opinions after that time now some sort of factors under the regulations for w medical opinions are supportability by the evidence in consistency with the of events here dr forum significantly changed his opinions after april two thousand and ten without much support and in the medical a sixteen month gap between the last time dr florence saw the plaintiff and the time that he filed his statement with the agency complete disability your i your honor i'm not sure if it's that long there was a long gap between his q i believe it was june or september two thousand and ten times that dr florence saw mr wright slop and then the some times that he saw him in april two thousand and twelve and during that time treatment for other things besides his back and physicians noted normal gates and but yes and then intrigue of treatment from other physicians from other physicians your honor yes but there is again in two thousand and i believe it's either at the end of two thousand say maybe he realized that he had been too optimistic before you know that the same set of underlying medical conditions which certainly could lead to the kinds of problems as to wrestle complaining about had in fact had a bigger impact than he realized well perhaps one could say that but right now we're looking at whether they'll chase finds a reasonable and if you look at that if you look at the medical evidence in terms of the imaging and the exam findings that wouldn't really supports much of a change in dr florence opinion i think that's what the  exactly your honor there's no excuse she never asks either seiji you know what caused the sea change well i think looking at the evidence of it would seem as though there was no there was no real reason other than maybe mr brown that's what the l g assume give course as you well know self reports of pain have to be taken seriously as well my l j case yes your i believe and i believe the l j did consider the self reports but and in the absence of of other evidence and subjective reports right although they do have to take the subject of reports into account because otherwise you know you would never grant relief to people with fibro my hours are you know other a whole variety of things that are actually hard to pin down in a physical sense yes your honor i think you're the l take it consider the objective reports immediately prior to looking at dr klein's opinion and this is in the case of fibromyalgia or some sort of where that where the cause of the pain is unclear this is a is a fairly fairly common case of a back injury mr ressler fell off a truck and hurt his back and the algae is acknowledging that he can only perform light work when he has postural limitations and that he is while he gets to his final opinion recognizing that scott in his opinion his very extreme limitations on these dogs are factors i think it important to recognize also that there was a gap in tree and i think it work or that's the ultimate conclusion but i think really what he's seen might even want to work it's physically having known the man knowing his history looking at everything that's there he just can't physically do things anymore and so i think that's become s