and we have maybe twenty percent of population that obese and i feel that our ways will be severe diabetes were also on the seas that we have to start preventing the preventable and natural mathematics and has i about options for doing that because that's what we emphasize prevention is one of our six principles and i think that we have the opportunity to be able to really to be able to really transform people's health wonderful  began running in sacramento california and you'll finish next month in bridgeport connecticut you know we actually started the run in francisco san francisco san francisco it's about ninety miles west that you know of course not obviously from the coast but i mean as we started on the from coast to years ago i say he was about ten or twelve years old he saw picture with the bill clinton and i when he was the governor of arkansas and this was back in that eighty's when i ran across country the first time and so he said to me his dad when i'm old enough and you're not too can we run across the country together and so that's kind of all got started and then about two years ago i had been practicing for four years and i felt like based upon where they were in school and that it when to do it when to do the run has to be now place in the marathon in sacramento and then we asked him if you like to run across country with us in the days of church you know he's just you know they've all been awesome and i think all of us are kind of amazed at the story because the most transformation taking place in germ break so we span out that thirty miles each day and we have recovery specialist who is with us who works on us every day and he helps out a lot of australia said man about that on your blog the muscle recovery yes well what is that months ago i was running and i was running film film great but also had my hamstring strength feeling like i was like a really tight rubber band is going to just bust and so i was kind of running downhill pretty quickly so then i stopped listening michael because i hadn't actually used  massage because that's the thing that people can most likely the cause the results that you would like to get a massage is what happens but he doesn't call it massage and so he calls it a recovery system that he's worked with world runners from for about the last seventeen years mean it's all right it's all relative you know i mean to what people are used to and just like everyone has different talents i mean when i look at when cyclists are swimmers or are more gymnastics or some of those things i'm simply amazed i can't even believe because people train their bodies so for me that you know wanting something that i do that i love and other people good so it's not so much that i think the point is is that not that we're great athletes i mean i'll speak for myself but the issue is that we're it's more  determining dedication i mean i was a was a was a high school athlete a germ i played a lot of sports to enjoin has played a sport but it was more it's more about can it mean the determination we're not trying to break into world records this is not about how great runners we are it's more about determine dedication commitment which is really what's going to happen if we're going to transform america's health it's kind of a metaphor for that just letting people know that this type of medicine is out there and especially and i'm so happy that you're running through this  t in an unlicensed state we've been practicing there for six years since i became i think just after i would just before i started practicing which is again one of the reasons i moved to california but i was a very limited licensure but it really portland so why stay in portland and i think that's what we really need to do is that we need to come back to pittsburgh and to philadelphia until harrisburg or wherever we're from so that we can where us naturally medicine won't spread or far but it's real natural to stay in a great city like portland we've met people i mean people oftentimes come in their twenty's and they find you know find a great person to marry or something and then decide stake that's where they met and then everyone ends up in portland or or seattle arizona for people that don't know how portland educations and then you spend four or five years your life to be able to say that you're not a doctor when you actually taking more classes than a medical doctor very disheartening very discouraging and i i've had my battles of the six years even  state in terms of being the recognition or the sense of being not so much recognition from the standpoint of all your you know your doctor but more since dan from the from the legal standpoint of all the vibes and all of those kind of things so make a huge difference in terms of being able to order  and lot of things i could do i probably could do it in a nice state so are you and your services covered by insurance california there are some doctors are able to work it out most of mine aren't what we do is we do a super bowl for patients where they can now and i think what really one of the things that we're really trying to do is to really have now it's about the doctors to being out there in the community and educating people about how we can help to make a healthy america because the reality is that no matter how many naturally doctors there are no matter how many progressive medical doctors there are so ice their past or whatever amount we're not going to stop this is not me that that i'm a disease coming and it's already here and coming unless that we get out and talk to people i think it's incumbent upon every person that cares about this nation about our health  n your teacher whether your high school student with your principal with your doctor either we have to talk to people and we have to have the kind of food only by people who are house for dinner have a christmas meal or whatever you know hanukkah whatever we're doing is that we need to begin i and his nephew eli they've been running across the country from california and they're they're here today they're really they're generating awareness about the importance of of natural path medicine but out right before the break you had mentioned that i think the viewers will be interested that this isn't your first experience running across the country sure you had done this back and in eighty four and he had not the clinton like well you know i met him in the spring of eighty five when i was going to cross the country in arkansas at that at the state house and he was one of the most amazing listeners that i've ever seen i mean it you could almost see his ears perk up you know when you're talking to him and i think that's one of the reasons why people love him in terms of like coming to even even people from the opposite party when he would walk in the room people would you know would be amazed and i would have to give him credit for being able to be he had such in the social abilities so when we met it was amazing because when when i was speaking about central america the issue that i shows the kind of the truth of that sort of being a vegan but about what a difference a make and felt so he took that quadruple bypass at the end to do or triple quadruple whatever that was and now become a vegan and i believe gluten free and i kind of thin and join us around with them so some of your experiences you've had on your journey like you know we've gone about twenty five hundred miles now and we've gone and seen some crazy  carcasses you know trained to train conductor how to stop this train see if we're ok because you never see anybody out there before and that it's been the you know so many other things along the way that you know that has made us tougher you know even though we don't want to go through that at the time you know looking back it up i'm a sufferer and just know in the future when we're all we're not running or whatever it may be that you know we can get through all these different types of obstacles first of all i mean these guys really didn't like them that much and they didn't really they didn't really use in that much it into the new i mean we do some but you know not that much and so but i think for the average person it really helps to get concentrated nutrition so you know know six six days a week and so i thought we trained and but it was really a balance between the trainer being trained but then also not meaning to talk about time to start it and we're a lot more used to it now this is the hundred day this was one hundred days that we've been in existence we've been living on the r v and we've been on the road since july seventeenth and of those one hundred days so you know sometimes you just you can't really think about it too much you gotta go and do it you know believe in yourself like my brother my dad died it was determination and you know being competent and you know a lot of people say that you know they can do it and you know we weren't sure if we could do it but we went out here we tried in an hour in pennsylvania