like don't oh hello sorry about that folks up welcome to another edition of time out for sports talk here at the belmont media center where i was just distracted by instagram who knew  belmont's first only live all sports talk show that's never happened anybody has it actually probably has and we're going to talk about that a little bit later when we get to the of the red sox a k a the bad news bears and we'll also get into tom brady and is big hearing a coming up lots to get to on this full showed right we're here for the full sixty minutes taking your phone calls the number six one seven four eight four two four four three we're alive it is monday night june twenty second two thousand and fifteen mn this extraordinary for a boston baseball magazine and also writes for a patriots football weekly is the co author of the cracker jack collection which is baseball's prized players and he's also a frequent contributor to x that great to be here you go yeah well good to have you we like so we got a lot to get into tonight we're going to start off first of all want to mention this because it just happened yesterday hope all the dads out there at a happy seventeen twenty two so she was averaging about a five and a half minute mile and the top belmont finisher was madeline kitsch i hope i'm pronouncing that right thirteen years old from belmont and she finished in a final time of twenty it's yeah you got folks coming a long ways to participate in this event again fourteenth annual and you can actually catch a lot of the highlights the b m c channel i know that will be edited together and you'll be able to catch that at a future date and certainly not as we said we got a full plate tonight lots to talk about we're going to kick it off appropriately enough with some soccer discussion women's world cup of course game going on as we speak  women playing in the round of sixteen we're actually out of group play into the into the elimination of the knockout round as they call it right before we actually talk some women's world cup though we've got a special interview stephanie ro player soccer star was recently here passing through belmont and she did she actually had an opportunity to talk with our own b m c reporter shall see kept well thanks todd i'm with stephanie roach a striker for the irish national soccer team she's here working out with the boston breakers and took a few minutes to join us hi stephanie i'm glad to be here on time for sports like i know was so excited to be working with the boston breakers am i was obviously  before now and then came here so i'm just kind of here for a week to see what my options are and maybe get a chance to go to in and as well so i'm going to take my time with my next one exhibition film here for a week to see how it goes it seems like you have a lot of decisions ahead of you how do you like boston i know you're staying with the whole family of soccer fans is that right yeah it's been great since i got here it looked after me really well the family so i am it's good to be here and enjoy myself on the set up in training with the team so it's been going well so far and of course you played with the european soccer team enjoyed myself playing here so i'm happy we've enjoyed having you and of course over here in boston we're known as the city of champions do you think soccer could fit into that yeah definitely i think women's football in particular has grown and grown i think b c the women's national team have been doing so well and they haven't had a world cup in canada what a great chance of winning it so i think boston can be part of that well i mean to ask you about that amazing goal it's pretty easy to see on video how how do you feel about that i know you were nominated for the the word correct yeah it was all a bit crazy to be honest i scored t feat which is crazy your family must have been so proud and i know you have a boyfriend who also plays soccer is that right yeah it's actually funny because he scored he played professionally in r and then scored a goal in his last game of the season and he was saying he didn't understand h powerful the skilful the strong he's he scores goals i score goals so i definitely would like to look up to him and try maybe get my game to be as good as his well you certainly are on the right path and fever has been in the news a lot lately what are your views on comes in next there's a good job and choice to sort out the issues that are yes do you think you'll be able to help get a better name and some of the newer players i think so i think there's a lot of as i say women's football has grown so much over the last few years and i'm really happy to see it i just hope that people will continue to put money into it on to to support the women's game a bit better and hopefully the said whoever comes in will try and do better things has thank you so much for your time thank you and thank you very much to chelsea  a chance to watch quite a few of the games sadly i will confess i have not had a chance to see anything yet they are now playing of course in the knockout round so there will be some opportunities and i do actually intend on watching some of the games they  was ten to nothing and yet another one ten to one win even my wife said why are these teams in this tournament if they get beat that badly it's almost a little like it's still but not as much as before but the top teams are very very good but once you drop down there's a big it's almost like women's n c a a basketball where you have the yukon's and you have the tendencies in those teams then there's a big drop in both soccer in girls basketball wins basketball in college they get the are getting a little smaller i think those teams are catching up but you're right some and you know what it's like that in men's soccer to you get some of those clunkers in world play but i think the very evenly matched kind of i taught i haven't watched in a lot of the games that have kind of been following it the reports  the highlights and i just i'm always amazed at the i don't want to sound sexist here but at the toughness the toughness of these players they play hard you know they're tough off the pitch to there's a lot of trash talking going on with the u s in colombia for the game tonight so i mean obviously they take it very seriously this is the pinnacle of the sport and you're going to see how it plays out and yeah you know i guess it was a i guess the last time these two teams played that one of the women and the colombian team punched one back in the yeah exactly you know you like you said one one strange bounce one lucky hit and all of a sudden it's one nil in that and you lose by that score so that's soccer and for people who love the game that's the beauty of the game for people who don't like the game that's why they don't like the  because it could be nothing not you know nothing throughout the whole match and then boom one goal decides you know we'll see it as someone who's always like i've always like low score in football games you know los you want to be as well you know i mean those are the games that i like so that's maybe why i like watching these it's also kind of a kin to what you see the difference between like in the n h l regular season games versus playoff midis world cup games it's on a higher level like you know you know regular ordinary m l s game doesn't asli hold a lot of interest even i know the boston breakers are back now is though you know those types of games don't have the same you know kind of competitive level that you would see from you know the world cup games i mean this is taking it would of about us and these are games i can get into watching i just right now schedule hello wow this is you know and i will get you know it's not that i've been intentionally avoiding the games i just had different for you know different scheduling conflicts one reason or other i haven't had chance to watch but i do want to you know hopefully the women will win tonight if they do they're going to play friday against china  asking the questions people always do about soccer and can it come to the u s and i you know i've gotten so far beyond that it's like if you're m l s now or whatever appeal to soccer fans don't try to get football american football fans of baseball fans to become soccer fans just give the best product you can to the soccer fans and that's all you'll be successful os i think that's what that's a major league soccer has done i think they've stopped us all trying to convert people and they just want to have good soccer for soccer fans that's what they should do i've got to some revolution games the people who are there love it they love it they take it in their it's like and i've been to soccer games in ireland and in england as well and it's not maybe that type of atmosphere but it's pretty close and some of the other cities hoovers and places like that that rabbit appeal to the people who love the sport and i think trying to convert you know you're not going to convert me to become a soccer maven i respect the sport and i like the sport i admire the sport appeal to the people who it and that's when you'll have success you know i mean a lot of those teams have tried to build their own stadiums too so that's right i mean it's it's kind of it's kind of sad when you do go to a reds game that trying to play in a sixty thousand seat stadium right in the in these twelve thousand people that you know and you kind of lose that whole atmosphere because this you should know there's so many empty seats even though the television makes it look like it's not yet when you're there it is where is where they're trying to build the soccer only stadium right and all the reds are trying to do that too you know when you only have twelve fourteen thousand seats there you know full house every night not their philosophy very loud right rightly going to be very noisy in the going to have the the drums go in in the chants go in and it's going to sound a lot better than in a hall of sixteen when i was a little you know i mean it's like playing even a championship celtics game at gillette stadium it's not going to be the same except when you have fifteen sixteen thousand people in there in a place like you said that fits seventy or eighty thousand it looks like you're in an empty stadiums you know and that helps those teams those teams that have those soccer only stadiums obviously one thing leads to you're successful you can build that type of stadium but i think the still stadiums also lead to the success for those french as well yeah like seattle i mean i know they're very popular venue and like you were saying how we robert kraft been trying for years to get a stadium in downtown boston because he also realizes that's where his key demographic is the people that are going to the game that's right most of them are within the city limits or at least inside one twenty eight belt and that's where he wants to put a stadium you know preferably downtown if he can or at least pretty close to it and you know that's you guys have been there it's a melting pot down they have so many people from so many different ethnic backgrounds most of whom really like soccer i mean there's soccer shops in the north an area in that area so i mean that's where soccer fans are too in the city people that were brought up with and then maybe came over here for school work i mean in a downtown soccer only stadium would be pretty neat for the city i mean think many in a city boston is the world cup so i have a big huge population venue's yeah places full had you know that wouldn't be high on the stand if there was you know a patriots game in a soccer game in a bruins game is it a you know it's not going to be right up there at the top you know but you know if they do it to the people that want to watch it you know that you know in united states i mean we have this kind of almost isolation his view the first time i went over to to englewood some a buddy of my work for virgin atlantic airlines we fly over at that time we would fly over there for like fifty bucks round trip but he passes what i was in my twenty's and again it's this whole sort of feeling of woods america this is where we are this is the hub of sports you know you would go over there and it's a big soccer match arsenal against coventry west ham whatever you know we go to the pub it would be just like being at the local pub on a sunday afternoon for the hundred ninety to visit my friends that i'd made while i was there i went back to one thousand nine hundred world cup so it was summer of one thousand nine hundred we were there we were actually watching we were not in a pub watching the england versus scotland it was an early round match and of course you know all my friends from scotland it was just you know no contest with who whose side they run but you know you're right it's that same atmosphere and i couldn't help but get into it just you know i mean if i want to play i don't know the players or anything because you know as a sports fan you can get caught up in it he take a side championship because we're on the same side of the bracket they'd be only in the semifinals yet so be one of those kind of like one nine hundred eighty olympic hockey where you know you know you kind of have yet you get the big game in the seventies and then you know you're playing for the gold medal and you have to like you know think about it person or you know glass half empty person i would say starting tonight all the days get shorter you know yesterday was thinking about that drive again you know i started thinking about like december twenty first as you know from meds and sort of the beginning of winter  right well actually that's going to work next topic now and u s open yesterday go but before we actually talk about yesterday's and the weekend's action how we got to attend his very first golf tournament in person we  we both had a chance to attend the two thousand and fifteen constellation events on the champions tour of the p g a and we got to see a lot of good golfers we actually have a few pictures here too of some of this action this is tom lehmann and off on the ninth  looked really they did a great job howie what were your and by the way here is the defending champion bernhard langer who repeated that's why as we that's why this photo i have here actually put up in front last year and this year's winner and it's pretty good that they printed these up every day because this had the final in when they were team and off what their schools were the first three rounds so you know so they put these up every day yeah so now what were your thoughts we had beautiful weather i mean couldn't ask for a better day don't walk around the course of the course was a great job so what did you think it was good it was fun i was just a little no no we've talked about this several times disappointed at the turn out that there was much advertising far and i mean i six four i mean big boys like look i'm going wow i got a new respect for the the size of these guys because i never really saw that you know i mean even in these guys a lot is guys they can still play oh yeah i mean they probably can't they probably couldn't match up because we can have size i mean the regular p g a tour it's just so different now in terms of the athleticism of these golfers and tiger woods probably started it you know with the weight lifting workout and then like that but boy they can still feet of him you could never get that close to tiger woods not walking from hole to one that was not of the nice that approachability i mean you were right next to mark calcavecchia when he was filming checked for my scorecard and after one hole or something i mean it was great i mean it was disappointing this is the thing i mean this was a one year deal like if they go back to philadelphia next year to this event because this this particular tournament you know it plays it's like you know what the p g a in the u s open they play different courses every year sometimes they come back i don't know what you know though i mean this is the first time they play a tournament in belmont since one nine hundred thirty seven i mean byron nelson was the last really the last winner of a a tournament in belmont before up you're going to hear any feedback from the players but how they like i've never played well i'm not a golf langar why have you around i'm not really a real golfer did they like the course i think you do you know yeah i was reading positive comments from langer by the way langer was apparently staying with your dentist howie really i think he was i heard this yeah yeah apparently that that's where he has family were staying they didn't stay at a hotel or anything y me a couple times and don zimmer was very nasty to me when he was a coach for the rockies that's a badge of honor in the media when you've been told or sworn at told to shut up by a pro athlete that's a good thing i mean if you're doing your job w that john i'm going to pick your media brain like you know i like to do since you're here what did you think of fox's foray into into the golf game and you know joe but there is again i can tell you i wasn't i wasn't too keen on michigan state i she was great and i got some thinks very highly i mean she was great on the golf channel i think she has a lot but you know i'm going to give him a break because i think part of his because it was just weird seeing fox do golf i mean it was just kind of strange especially you know a major tournament like that from that broadcast that said i thought it was pretty you know you know he's got some media chops though he's b but no question but a lot of people say you know if you've never won a major well how can you critique guys who have a lot of people think that you know when you start talking about golfers turn broadcasters but he's very glib he's very good on air and he's like i said he's kind of honed his craft here locally doing a lot of radio and media work on golf and he was good he was good you know i do agree with is the same thing as it's the first time so i'm going to cop it was strange it was just strange you know as it was and i think it was because we weren't seeing the usual announces that we see you that you know i mean used to it right and don't you like golf is one of those sports too because you very rarely you don't really see the broadcaster in golf a lot and even in other games sometimes you get that shot the two shot of the three shot in the booth but the voices of golf just so it's like pat summerall is still in my head do in golf you know that's another guy that went from being a football player of all things to be in a golf announcer and he was great but golf announcing is so understated that i'm not going to say it's play by play he's a great studio host in a great interviewer but he was not good at that rate so i would say joe buck was bad doing it i just was oh gosh he's finally he's found his niche in golf no you know no no but i mean the main job to also is you know a right that would not be the gentle bit when i mean there's a nice way to do a jump up at a found that way like point is it would happen and they'd have to say you know maybe that's why it didn't happen maybe they didn't want to go to greg norman and say hey greg what's it like to choke you obviously wou say this though he you know the way he was playing on the back nine dustin johnson i just i had a feeling when when that came up on me and i said you know what it's not going to shock me three putts here it really isn't because he's been doing that the entire back not yeah and so hasan twenty nine on the back if he had woken up the before the tenth hole going to want to go and it will come up friday speed i mean you know i kind of when he won the massive i'm like well ok this is the start of the the speed era i don't think you get an error on one major but now i mean two majors in a row now that the kids build a resume i mean now this is stuff that woods did you know when he was first coming but he didn't win these first two at twenty one either i don't think he won the the masters of the u s open want you know he didn't do that's but it's pretty amazing you know but but there are also these these this group of young players the johnsons the speeds and then the makeover as they're also coming up at what is apparently the end of the tiger woods there you know they don't have to deal with him right now it's like all those n b a champions after jordan left you know it's oh it's oh that was a jordan by the way michael but yeah you know i mean it's a little different you know it's a little different now it's kind of wide open mickelson is still a factor but he's he's got of continue this this run he looks pretty comfortable playing on only and i were talking about that i mean on television it looked i mean it was picturesque in some ways but it looked bad like the greens looked real rough looked unkempt they looked i mean the it's like full of fascinated by us whenever you're watching golf coverage but how he made a good point he said you know what let's make it kind of tough on these guys these guys are so good and they have such technology now would make it a little tough on the right when they went by twenty twenty under i mean that's right not enjoy  like nicklaus said in the six right when he was forty six years old might he have that at some point but i think that whole scandal i think everything that happened with him when you had that good at something and i'm not making a case for  you know being infidelity here ok but there was a there was a magical aspect to tiger woods there was a superhuman aspect tiger woods and part of that was maybe the fact that he had this kind of hidden life where he could do pretty much what he was doing whatever he wanted to do and when that whole thing came out and that was gone maybe some of that maybe that little kryptonite there you know and he hasn't really been that i know he would have won some tournament but he hasn't been the same since then you know why you're screwing around with your swing getting a new coach every single year i'm not going to sit here and try to you know analyze tiger woods as a golfer i could never do that but it's done i mean the day of dominance is done and now it just seems like he's just all screwed up because you keep changing coaches you keep changing swings you keep changing your short game that doesn't work no matter who you are he's obviously trying to get better and i give him credit for that but yeah the day is done might do i think he's got maybe a surprise ma let one of those i want to is right where all the said he becomes the crowd favorite and we're rooting for the old veteran that might happen some day for days together like it like never before but you're right this whole lifestyle rabble yeah yeah he can't put it back i mean they like that the covering is often like he's been stripped down to he's a he's just a guy he's a regular guy and i think that obviously affected his game in the injuries didn't help i mean the injuries didn't help along the way either but it's too bad because he was great and he's still a good golfer he'll still w better he opened it up to a whole new section of the population he made it more popular these guys the mcelroy is the speed they all owe a debt of gratitude to tiger woods because in essence he kind of save the gay i'm a little bit he saved the game a little bit he brought him back to the masses he brought interest back to the game and he deserves a lot of credit when he was talking like he's done he's not done but he's done the dominance of these was that he's thirty nine lives that would talk about like like you know sixty and you know when you think about how he's been going at it a long time oh yeah and when you way through the show we still type is an unbelievable six one seven forty four two four four three here on monday june twenty second i got to give this a shot it's been a busy sports month all of us can remember the last time there was a wins it going away what a what a great race that was i mean you really you know i honestly i have to admit every year i get kind of it when they win the first two legs i think this is going to be the one this is going to happen and this year i didn't even think this year i gave up on it earlier said he's not go what i watched it anyway out of curiosity and then would you know he pulls away down the stretch yeah i mean great story here i mean you know for all that you know look at all the ones who came so close that you know california chrome i'll have another of course what a perfect name there have name legs and came up short and american feral finally does it so someone now so now this generation animal does not bring this is going to bring horse racing back at all it felt like it was you know a big deal that day and then like it didn't really seem to last very long i don't think so i mean that's as much as i still enjoy it because i grew up with it i don't think it's you know you it should be you know it's because this world of everything is instant and fast yeah and we want it now in horse races like t it's time to get support from the should be just generation yeah yeah you know with event i mean i think it's kind of like the soccer i think that you know horse racing fans are going to love horse racing no matter what i mean i will say this when when that happens when you get to that third race and a horse has won the first two then you get the casual horse racing the casual sports fan they want to tune into that that two minutes they want to see it i mean it's going to change a sport i don't think so it's kind of almost like maybe just maybe just some like grumpy old men here but it's kind of like you know heavyweight boxing you know and when you don't have that marquee champion you know a personality people identify with it's just different i mean the heavyweight division really has been the same since tyson went off the deep end you know that make that perfect segue i don't believe that but it's terrible he has to go you know it really is i did want to get to the patriots syria you know i know how you were a little disappointed we were doing the show tonight when the news came out that the brady here is going to be tomorrow but i'll tell you the truth tomorrow it's not going to get solved and even if it carries into thursday you know goodell is not going to make this decision on thursday this is going to drag all the way into training camp and so we would have added to the show in july which were actually taken the the month off to every charge jury and executioner here he's he's getting he ever want to talk n f l all year long even during the debt is time of the year in june when there's nothing going on we're all talking about it we've got the hearing tomorrow the latest study that poking holes in  the wells report i guess you know now we've got it while showing up at the hearing tomorrow i mean this is just you know what's going to happen here i mean realistically i don't i i don't think he's going to budge i mean he's going to look like a fool if he does he makes the original ruling and now he's going to just say oh no i should've made that rule and after everything else that's gone wrong with all the other decisions with peeta sin and rice and yeah and everything else i mean but if he doesn't then don't i can't you think so i wonder about that i could i agree with you in theory but i wonder is that well so i don't know if it's going to here's what i wonder ok first of all i'm of the opinion that he should have been not suspended and by the way i had no issue with the wells report because they came out and said the truth more probable than not might have could have that but from that i had a real issue with the punishment because from that report i don't think he should have been any punished maybe a small fine for public opinion and the press he's very very affected by that and you would think a guy who's so arrogant would not be but he is and he's really dug himself a home because like you said either he's going to look weak or there's go an outrage reaction if it's for games for doing this because by the way i don't think tom brady did it the wrong way that he told the guy get it down to the lowest legal limit absolutely the same way other guys do whatever they do to the football but this was a this was a dumb move on the part of goodell i think a reaction maybe not to the public on this one but a reaction to the colts in the ravens who maybe everyone thinks the patriots get away with things everybody thought he was by the way with kraft this was his way of roughing up the pats but he's game suspension let me ask you this what if they said it was one game but it's not the first game what if they let him play the first game because it's the marquee game thursday night and they're going on the fraser banner and then you miss the next game and you can't do that you can't do that conspiracy in deal theories here it's really going to be kind of neat ted wells by the way is the highest paid idiot in the history of the world i mean are you kidding me seriously wait a minute no have you seen goodell salary you know he might not he's not and i'm not sure that there was an change all these controversies but you're so right and you put the swing by public opinion which is very swayed by also gets us quickly now i guess to a five minute rant on the red sox here's another you know here's an ownership group that seems to be swayed by public opinion they always act they've been acting a day or two rodriquez pichon yeah you know you can spin point at this because it's easy to say well they went with this kind of make shift starting staff they let lester go they let lackey go they dumped lackey traded lackey but it hasn't been just the pitching i'm very disappointed in going to start me him get a little tired of his little antics at the plate and i've said this time and time again i think he's if i'm a writer and i have a vote he's a first ballot hall of famer he's also a first ballot perma donna and when things get tough for this team david ortiz does not lead he sat quiet you can say the same thing about pajoy they sat quietly and watched terry francona get home go to dry and they're doing the same thing now they have not stepped up i don't know what they do in the locker room but i'd like to hear them publicly come out and say this team is hoarse you know what guys st love right exactly i don't get it i mean is that like you know you give them the benefit of the doubt or you pay too much respect to him you know in the public eye and by as a result of that the players of the walking all over you i mean the question is what do they do they take and the thing i mean if a month from now that ten games out that done so we might see who knows they could trade they got ten straight games against american we i mean they're ten and twenty want to get yeah so we'll be in the know soon enough if they're within five games in a couple three weeks you've got to you that the red sox ownership group has to face you know how much they love ortiz ortiz you know he homered yesterday he passed mutual past starch will still twenty four home runs from five hundred yeah apparently that's kind of the big carrot right now for big papi that's what he's playing for he's not going  to twenty four months rather playing for the team he's well i don't know maybe not maybe you know maybe not his plays not going to hit what i know for a fact he will not have twenty four home runs the rest of this year he has a clause that if he gets four hundred twenty five plate appearances this year  gets an automatic option that kicks in for next year you look at hamley ramirez on the fact that this guy cannot play the outfield as much as he tries or wants to or whatever and he just looks like a d h in the making you know what's this team going to look like next year i mean do you want it's their g m it's their manager they went inside this isn't inherited stuff here i mean there's another sign of these guys but this team to guess is their team they're going to lose about thirty five to forty million off payroll because of victory napoli and masterson but then the next big question would be also would you consider trade bucholtz because you know he's got a kind of a relatively what's the right on track the other teams get i don't but here's the other thing i will say this i'm sick of these these media people around here who already have proclaim curtis road it's well you know why now but at the end of that look that went to great they were two good ball players but they just weren't they didn't get them but who was good on that team those celtics of those two years between have a check and byrd i mean those benteke to be brought in every veteran c is our twitter handle we will announce when our next show is coming up it'll be late august early september just before the start of the patriots season that's when we will do it and talk about you know the summer that was a little silly like a soap opera as a baseball