seven zero we need to point to a township engineer i believe last year we retained their gateway as consulting have motion second for discussion i'd like to table the appointment pending a recommendation from the school board i think that it would be helpful if we had some more diversity on the park and rec board it's pretty heavily favor boards we used to have a policy for the parks and recreation board that couldn't serve more than two terms council did a number of years ago we knew that  guy we have a motion in a second and then mrs merrill made a motion to table this which i will sack and and so i would think that we should vote on the the next item is status the dates and times for river council meetings for two thousand and thirteen and i assume it can right now it's the second and fourth mondays  if we kept that the only thing we would need to change would be memorial day to the may twenty eighth and in december we would meet on the third monday which summer sixteenth instead of the twenty third and move that we establish the council meeting schedule as proposed for the second and fourth tuesday second and fourth monday of every month with two changes in one in specifically something that we had talked about and we had done in the past which is an addendum to the severance agreement yes we have it into a seven six severance agreement two thousand and five and as i employment agreement it's a severance agreement related to terminations of employment correct so because we don't actually have an employment contract we do not have one contra i think with this just to clarify it's my i'm not sure given it's an open meeting that we and this is a person now issue that would be appropriate to talk about it right now i would like the way that we tabled in either go into executive session about this or person pony tail we can just two things this evening first of all congratulations to you and everyone who was elected to our posts on council second thing is i'd just like to say that i thought during the last snow storm that our public works department did an outstanding job in maintaining the roads as a matter of fact i thought they were absolutely flawless from my standpoint  i'd like to tell the gentleman over there and i am the lady thank you very much for your service thank you thank you any further audience comments say we're going to go do what we have now want to finish business or we'll go to new business first item is a resolution authorizing the transfer of a liquor license to ninety four center church road which is the center pla cafe catering it's my understanding that we previously approved the license transfer to doctors rushed her aunt but i guess that was never finalized our house district you know dividing the township not dividing the township and remaining in the district that we had been in we were successful in bringing that about and when this is over the years percentage of problems because we are the only part of you know of washington in green county and it is not in the district we have a very hard time getting attention from  washington in green counties particularly organizations like penn and the innocent people like that and it would make a lot more sense if we were part of the district that you know i as us is part of that we really have very little influence in allegheny county and the people that represent allegheny county if we were in washington in green county we would have a significant voice in there's no guarantee or even reasonable thought at this point in time that that would actually happen there is a window of opportunity judge care steel the chief justice of the supreme court needs to finalize the map it's my understanding that there are some changes to be contemplated and i would like to see and on the record that we would like to be relocated to the forty six county it was only a small part it's us in our version clearer than that you know when we have a significant voice in that when you look at did you know our influence to allegheny county is zero and our influence in wor you look at these were little a little swatch in beaver county they can very easily make whatever adjustments you nurses here and there you go there is twenty seven thousand people well it doesn't have to be necessarily books in five years from book say fifty five mr balls dead right and i'm going to tell you why straight candid language matt smith could give a damn about peter's township where republicans he doesn't like republicans he'll never do anything force guaranteed on the other hand solavei also a democrat doesn't like the ins i'm sorry in with the allegheny county it's a it's a contradiction to me i do agree that neither of the two representation says people currently in in position represent what will represent us well but i i do have a tendency to believe that we would perhaps fare better if we were a contiguous part of washington county so that we at least had a senator who was looking for looking at the washington county benefits right now we're challenged even being involved which a call because they are very much about allegheny county and there are many things that don't apply to peter's township and so on there you know i think that if it's something worth considering i think the the would approve the resolution it would still have to be supported by the school district and i correct it doesn't have to but you know it's really the bridge where you know it could be all it does all this resolution  mr bones point says that if we don't ask now we're not going to be able to ask again for ten pleas for ten years and i don't i don't really have an opinion of mr smith that's whether we would get attention from him or not i mean a gre and i i i would have to contend that i think a lot of respects we do have a lot more in common with the street thirty seven and we do with the bottom with regard if we're not getting the attention we need it's on the murray road and i'm sure they're looking at it from the standpoint be able to put more messages and not have to go out there and physically do it so snyder over there is a stand with a you know better you why i think the control that we did with the signage that they're a black background that either red or white i think that it's night and offensive i think it's just what's the current technology and everybody wants to use the hundred police officers could have dropped conscience which means they would be clear that they're going to retire in three years after they have to be already eligible to receive a pension and if that's the case then that money is put into a trust account and they're you know they're there they're no longer accumulating so they basically freeze the level of what their pension would be and they're not getting the their pay and the money is being put in and then at the end of the three years when they be required to retire then they would collect that money we do this under the act we have to put that money into some some type of account much as six percent interest and so they would you know you get situations as a pal these are losing money but then they're having to pay this money with interest so that's why we're not leaving the money into the fund but we're putting for permission be able to increase rangers based on performance up to two hundred percent in the current situation with the ranges if they did know any crease do you have the potential that there would be people who have their performance warranted would get an increase that would be limited because they would be at maximum now nobody in the department and now at this and any other township at this time  there would be some it would be close but nobody would be told what in fact what in effect their increase to the end of the range does is to allow people who are employed to to continue getting creases so if you give no but if the range is not increased people would be close but nobody would be over to range was increased you'd have fewer people near start people near the minimum salary and the personnel where you or if they're performing well is to get them to standard salary by two years so that  moves yes the trouble that i have with this and i am not i think that the township knowing in township employees do a good job my concern is that when we negotiate with the union staff and we keep increasing their ranges i don't know that that gives us any leverage and i don't know that it's fair to not increase the ranges on the backs of annoying people but probably between the two and two and a half there were there there there would be to actually be somebody that would be below that this last year probably range between one and a alt these ranges by sevens percentage i mean you know there's a big enough spread between the radar the middle salary the maximum salary i think two to two to justify you know hiring decisions and i don't know why we need to do this every year well it's not that you need to do it every year but if you don't do that on a periodic basis then you will wind up where people to bid but you know we had to go out there and really hard we have we we have to be able to offer some kind of it's just a number that gives us the ability to do so doesn't make us any more or less  gave me the decision on whether contracted to provide service people are expected to pay on a monthly basis and i think that you should explore whether or not we can in some way identify who is affected