i'd like she's me three things i'd like to draw attention to their i wonder if item nine miscellaneous the place review board comments you admitted a comment that i made that i believe the documents need to be updated and dates mr mills who is currently chair planning is a representative for reed smith on the bond financing and then last performance review page ten when we talked about the handbook would you please add that i stated  turned over to the attorneys from the four municipalities and this is what they came up with it was rejected originally by peter's creek again and they amended it and now it's in peters creek hand the act on the rates would be based on the flow meters per thousand gallons and if there would be a credit you would get a credit on your next bill i think the quarterly bil maybe it's seven o'clock but this would have been a follow up meetings talking about bringing the various communities together before the meeting on thursday missis so i think thanks for your over just to amplify what mr mclaughlin said he was kind enough to invite me over the weekend together the meeting i wasn't sure who else was going to participate but i figured i'd like to go and hear some information so i didn't so much do anything much more than ask questions and listen to what was told as you can imagine clinton from their perspective gave the timeline and gave the sequence of events of what they thought had happened and how things had become unraveled and as mr mclaughlin said somewhere between the two we need to figure out what the issue is but one thing that they did emphasize is that they do have a capacity issue  they do believe that the e p a is going to force the issue and they did reinforce that they sent an agreement out recently to everyone to sign i believe that it was sent to peter's creek i was able to look at it not read the whole thing because i think it was like thirty pages but so were we probably need to touch base with peter straight about what that new document looks like so there is still room for work but helpfully when we went in the right direction the right hand lane as you head toward route nineteen just in front of the n s a s insurance building which pools water now by pooling i'm not talking about a small pothole on talking about the water that covers at least half of the on the right hand driving lane and is between four and five inches deep in my estimate and approximately thirty five to forty feet long that's a large body of water  and what i'm concerned about is cars traveling on valley road valley broke running into that pool of water and hydroplaning or having their steering somehow disrupted and ending up crossing over the median and perhaps as if that might sound a terrible head on collision occurred this is something i noticed saturday not fortunately we've been having good warm weather however tonight will be freezing if we had had rain saturday along with the freezing temperatures that would have been a pull of ice so what i'd like to see is something done if we can immediately fix the problem at least we should put up some warning signs can spend five thousand dollars moving a telegraph pole i think we can spend a few dollars fixing that that water and pulling the other thing is i notice that we've cut down the trees in front of the  hill side there is a number of trees still there some of them are lying across the electrical telegraph wires some of the rim or are very much in a position to begin sliding down the hill we have a  really presented a danger to the public as they transfers that wrote thank you apart part pretty badly and without being able to go down santa's trail and just about because of the bridge being closer is more traffic on there than usual and it's there's the g and we're all out there a couple weeks ago route two quite familiar with the condition it's kind of close as it is passing each other car i mean i know i've lived here for eighteen years that's an ongoing problem because there's not good for any a sewers or anything for that to run off to but i just want to bring it to your tension when we talk about five c well the public have the opportunity to say how much c i'm out the act thirteen  money legal money etc and it is actually going nowhere so i don't know what this board do on the representatives to bring them in a discussion on how they're handling their cars and how they continue to we're going to be spending a lot of money and time and wasting our money we don't get it resolved so we appreciate whatever help you can do  count as i recall responsible for action i had this applied to probably excess of one text this is as you talked about opportunity to explore comments were there any that came in from the public no around the last when the complaints came up a few months back it wasn't one of the biggest complaints dealing with the nine or the trees correct and in this this revised ordinance than it did strike without my observation most people really don't know where they are or have are just don't really look at songs i kinda like to see that stay in there i think that's gerrard's that's why we have the forestry looking at  nick mr lewis it's good to be in front of you again so i can go through this pretty quickly i think you talked about this at a prior meeting basically what we're doing is refinancing the two thousand and six bond issue to a lower interest so the barge issue the old bond issue goes out to two thousand and seventeen the new bond issue will go out to two thousand and seventeen two we're not extending the term in any way after the cost of issuance or paid the township will be saving approximately two hundred  twenty five thousand dollars as compared to the old debt service and to put that in context you were only refinancing about twelve years two million two hundred ten thousand dollars in total so one hundred twenty five thousand out of two point two million equates to about a little over five percent which is a very worthwhile amount of savings for the amount of principal you refin and finally the feel the bonds are sold based on a credit rating of the township of double a plus which is which is of that that was reaffirmed for this bond issue and that is a fabulous credit rating in a  reflection of why you know what goes on here in this particular in this township so i commend commend council for that so with that there are any questions i'd be happy that answer them i mean brought the work into six projects we have four of them done and we're starting on the fifth hopefully this fall and when all is said and done we will have invested a little a little over four million dollars in recreation for show uses in future township we're about halfway there right now and it's not quite as quick as we'd like to get we like to joke about in the trail world is we've done in three more years so three months i provide a good deal of information for your background which i'm not going to go through in detail what i'd like to do is just give you twenty five july early july to have seen more than the in georgetown bridges open which will make for a much longer continuous part of the trail six days ago we opened the airport connector which is a six mile connection from the successful rant requests from d c in our four ninety five thousand dollars for the design funding for valid bridge number one and we were also successful in getting a quarter million dollars for construction funding for that bridge from trouble we are requesting design funding for d c or for this round for that bridge as in the past we would ask the township for a letter of support if necessary for to the crossing and d e p for the crossing of a stream done quickly enough that we can go out advertise in say september are you try are you are you the gap over route fifty i actually am good news on that but i i don't know if it's public or not we've been led to believe that that project is going it's it's in design right now and  is going to have to come up with maybe one and a half million dollars to build the two spans across route fifty nine eighty for the redesigned intersection but it appears that that's the trail bridge is going to be part of the overall project and won't cost us a dime wow so we were very happy to hear that but we haven't heard that officially other than that the that the meeting on site we were told that the press picked up on that and makes a big splash about it we may jeopardize it so i children i agree with the idea that the people are maintaining the property and they have asked for a limited period but i think we do need to be consistent on we have this proliferation of signs on time and if we're going to make pro bono as well now now and the term thousand dollars that you guys have that was just four witnesses had ten days that will have some extra weight fees we don't know what those costs will be them the moment is the complete agreement with you concerning this what this act thirteen has done not only to our town champ but to the two thousand five hundred sixty two minutes of how these around this state i think is  criminal i really do i just will i just found out something i was telling mr obama this great britain meeting and i just wanted to bring this to your attention it is my understanding we have a person that does pennsylvania for the past year they're being permitted as not marcellus wells are being permitted as conservation wells which falls under the oil and gas conservation act and i read that act and there's a word in there call into gratian and i just i'm bringing this up first because i want to forget it integration is nothing else but to force pulling now the reason why conservation wells from my understanding and i've been communicating with people at the d e p t including attorneys and i just have an e mail i told mr paulson until this conservation law was put into a fact because the gas industry in the coal industry struggles over main underground and so conservation wells go through the whole pillars although there's a famous photograph there of north apart six hundred sixty feet and this integration is forced pulling and i asked the d e p t and they contacted their attorneys and what they have done it in two based on what you put in the narrative that indicated that we wouldn't get that amount so should we we say up to the amount of one hundred thousand does it matter if we say that for now no we obliged to use that it doesn't nothing and then i just have one other question as i don't remember proving grant this sort of thing before is this standard or is this is this only because it's for the some of them but it's just that we've talked about other grants and i didn't know whether that was what was holding up applying for more thank you so the discussion motion would be to on so i am requesting that at least at this time the decision be tabled still we can do some things that i most appreciated was the fact that we did have some new faces in the traffic engineering interviews i think that he played a make man and tr good i think one of the thoughts that i had related to make man was the fact that as the primary engineer being a resident of the township he has a sore as they call it skin in the game i do know the gentleman is in the neighborhood so i think that based on his experience and his skills there's a good potential that he could also do a good job because he's obviously from the air from our resident perspective and with experience and so i would i would like to say that i think that  we have a hard choice here and that mcmahon would also be a good choice as an alternate so i'd like to make a motion for mcmahon as an alternate choice anticipate any meetings and you need to attend but we should under the administration i just was wondering you indicated that you send in a so mission to the center for performance management but it be possible for you to make a copy of that available to counsel is that not i don't know wh which says that there were eleven cats trapped on that report if i read that correctly where those are part of the line i don't think so i would have assumed that i would have to check into that and wondered what congratulations on getting a grant again from local government academy and then you talked about the sidewalks project this year so minus do we have any idea when you talk about that potentially to be land do you think that will be left before after be do way that catch are still in the park no question about they'll be there or bullets are cheap i keep saying that but now i want to listen to me report to the engineering department to think i think one of the current plan is to be in a position to talk about turf for the hill five the next council meeting  current plan is i don't know i myself will not be in western pennsylvania at that time i guess offer to go with what position that's going to put me in regard to i think the matter probably  that evening we did have some significant rain i'm sure period of time this created a number of problems in various locations throughout the township where there were hands that had water in their basements issue that it was a third time that he had been there doing the same exact thing and it's our contention all along that i don't feel that i should be responsible for surrounding properties water jettisoning down through the common area destroying my own  i just thirty days ago replaced all the carpeting in eight hundred square foot a finished basement because of a hot water tank that burst i'm doing that yet again plus all the dry walls ripped out by the disaster restoration folks insurance doesn't cover that job and ladies i had a couple of contractors who came out i asked them how do i fix this i don't want to ever deal with this again to be perfectly frank with you i could fix this problem for proximately four thousand dollars i don't think i should have to i don't think i should have to go into my own pocket to fix a problem doesn't originate on my property that i'm not causing it's not my fault that the individuals above me jettison their water they don't capture it it comes right out when it rains you could see their water spikes coming right down  an absolute unacceptable situation for me to have to put up with over the years so we're gone most of the division down that was prior to my buying it that's something that you know we will settle with attorneys because that was never disclosed to me that this property had flooded or township firemen stated that he was there three times i would think that the individual soldier now should disclose that that wasn't disclosed to me that's neither here nor there but i need to get this problem rectified and again i don't think that i should have to go into five gallons per minute on e mail that's a lot more so that so we need an occupancy permit to get on the highway even though the waters it's  he's referring to a drainage perm and then there's a meeting of the teachers creek communities this week remember communities in the authority at union township to the secretary or said it is at this point either two o'clock on the twenty