speculation as as to what happens among games with the communication would be between game members who are in prison or in lock up and who were out on the street the fear gang members gay members m have a turning up to write or seeing member into the police and the fact that it's fairly credible that gaming the system speech to the police which is one of the reasons that these two witnesses says that said that they would not come forward so  the credibility findings against memphis with the evidence and second secondly she did not take them into account just in the light of the evidence that messages to trial this is were not very credible we had anthony we are williams convicted they assume they he wouldn't be because everyone knew he wasn't out there and then they got arrested and caught up in the justice system with the the do you have the authority to do that so much of what you're saying is that it's not that the trial judge listened to specific things said by these witnesses and check out their demeanor in their court of voice  yes that's what i'm saying that she seemed if you look at her in order she seemed to just just in her head these are your ideas of how this should happen that they should have come forward right away that they were you know it's pretty clear  weather circa quote took the time to discuss the credibility of bill for things witnesses that testified at the adventure hearing and then she ran and took that new evidence and scrutinized it together with the trial record and went through gang will fare going on between these two factions at this thing for these two men were insane gangland defendant and claim they revered today in the shooting but they somehow didn't know he was arrested for the shooting and she and she said very plainly that her order that defies common logic that defies human experience but they wouldn't have known what was happening in their own game community when they read it and work together with this this defendant day in and day out until ten years later when they see him in jail but she went beyond that she beyond's find that their reason for not coming florida was incredible she also found that their testimony replaying the shooting was not credible so it wasn't just about their reason for coming fairly even if you say they had a great reason for coming forward or they had a plan reason for waiting to come forward with their very own description of the shooting defied logic was improbable in her opinion after watching them testify and i might add watching petition testify to he testified that this thing was about peacefulness that the listener violence in this thing the undertaker vice lords his attention was completely ridiculous and she and she was watching and listening and an brandeis initial grand jury testimony and written statements were entered a substance of evidence that they were medical window which can take his his testimony his grand jury testimony at trial only to say i wasn't there i don't understand it i don't know anything about want to thank you guys for well written briefs and good arguments and i want you to know a bit to justice mcbride did could not be here today but she will be with this panel when we deliberate on this case and she will hear the arguments that were made today and will take this case under advice thank you very m