houses have gone in to the area that the traffic on the bottom and i mean it's there's a lot more houses more people and you know i've never had to sit at the underpass to make a walk to go to work  morning now i do you know it's just i see the increase in traffic in this is just because more traffic do you ever get last on the boy or at the top yes there again is that now it's there's no problem getting out or making are there yes and he was he was the in favor of it for that purpose but we've been in favor of for years when we attempted to get grants we just haven't been successful in obtaining funding from the government and if if this were to be implemented were you that it's all right to determine when the officer assigned orders and with this be satisfactory to you yes i have a question why why do you think it would be a benefit for a lot of reasons i think the it's good for those kids to become comfortable around an officer we've seen improvements in order thing with the dare program they respect the office they learn that he's like any other human being they get physical contact not physical contact i should say but contact in a school where they can talk to me we've seen me in the past with other schools that have done this people go to them with problems they don't have anybody else to talk with about and i'm a firm believer it's not a matter of if it's going to happen it's a matter when it's going to happen we just live in that kind of world today like i came away from that meeting no disappointed in the scenario as presented to us by the principal and the school board where there was nothing very frightening involved in what they were talking about it was kind of a feel good saying that they they felt  an officer of ours and put in a school district all year we have one knowledge there is a dear i've just been a long time telly on as i know we always do the same drop where no one knows it better than i do but the fact is their responsibility they were elected to run the schools and they should do sincere apprehension that the steps that we're taking your very nominal as an expense to avoid any sort of significant issues of my own old school i just look at the domestic issues in this community which are mature adults that can handle circumstances and say to myself where is where is the competence of your kid is or under reasons why they haven't been able to do that and i think what they're trying to do is be proactive and as i said last time i think it's a business decision between us and the school and if they want to pay for the officer i can certainly appreciate why they want an officer several items that i thought needed to be clarified before and again i'm not going to sit here and get through each of those but i think that it's a big enough agreement that things need to be very clearly outlined yesterday who's responsible how discipline is going to happen you know what happens at the gentleman place officer once out of the assignment things like that as well as extra duty time is paying for that all that stuff so from my perspective i agree with mr lewis that it's a proactive approach and i'm not necessarily opposed to trying to come to an agreement with  all just a few comments on the subject last week i was very opposed to this program because i felt that given the potential threat we could have a major disaster in our high school and that that police officer might be involved in in this action to a great degree not necessarily to the benefit of the students there however i took it upon myself to do a little research on this issue i talk to the captain of the police force in south bay at township because i knew of a problem that south bay at high school had with gang activity it's my understanding that the then cheap of police bucky law has some warrants sworn out for the arrest of these gang members and the gang members suddenly disappear they went to other states to escape which i can't rather interesting so there is an impact that police do have in schools the captain was good enough to give me the name came of the r n s and the west allegheny quit school system and i called him and i found him to be a very very delightful man he spent about forty five minutes with me on the phone and he told me what he was doing and what he did do and what is services were provided to the school he's been there for twenty two years he started out as their care officer and approximately eight years ago he took over as the  generally speaking it's sound system and i very honestly must admit that i was on the verge of changing my mind entirely about how i felt about this this police officer in the school and then we came to one thing that became a little disturbing to me and it has to deal with privacy one of the things and i don't want  one of the things that he routinely does and i can see the reason for it is he goes to the police department in the morning and he refused the police reports from the previous day and if he sees things like a domestic or child involved crime he seemingly puts the word out at school so that people can be vigilant now that in my mind had some real significant drawbacks to it because it constitutes information that information sharing it's more  online is confidential i mean frankly if i have an argument with my wife i don't want my son going to school and saying my mom and dad had a fight last night and then having the police announce it in school so last thing i need to have happen for any of this but that's a possibility and i noticed here in the time was good enough to get this for me there's a there's a line that reads however this sh be construed to prevent the s r o from sharing information with school administration stapp which may be in the determination of whether or not disciplinary offense occurred so we might be putting ourselves into a situation where we're talking about up family or student who's not yet been adjudicated or that the frankly also that the crime may have been very very innocent these things happen the other thing is i understand the chief and the money that used to be available in grants for the that sorrow and also for the their in multiple grade levels up to the sixth grade and it takes up then officers full time when school's a session to take care of the well when i'm trying to wrestle with this this particular police officer needs been at district twenty two years this police officers able to take care of the needs in five schools combining the s r o and the position i just thought that it would be possible to blend the two it would be a cost saving efficiency matter if you're talking different levels you're talking of the menger school middle school and we're talking about a high school right if he was approached by a criminal defendant and who had a firearm close quarters he realizes that he would probably be the first target and he accepts that so that answered my question about how dangerous that position might be and under the circumstances i would have to agree with him that if i were in the process of creating a lot of mayhem do about it the biggest single thing that i got from the conversation is that if there is a potential for crime in the student body quite often the feelings the sensation the conversations that this gentleman has with other students helped to avert that so there's an avoidance potential here so the other thing that i found amazing was west allegheny is going through a process of making some cuts and they were thinking about cutting the r f so believe it or not that didn't happen they kept him in lieu of having to retire some teachers and not replaced so they felt least the school board in the community felt that he was an important  addition and that he did serve a purpose so i haven't really concluded exactly now i feel on it i see the advantages but i also concern i'm concerned about the disadvantages in the costs so thank you for that's all i'm not board decided that they want to do it in a should go ahead and do it like they've been trying to do it for years and years and years just go ahead and do it if that's what you want to do i'm opposed to our doing and that's that's my point it's their job to do that and i went on to keep it that way to so they're now taking another step and they're trying to contract with someone and they're going to contract with the people they know the best which is the township police force so from my perspective i think the school district is attempting to solve their problems and it's that and i go back to what i said before it's a business decision if we in fact can help this be resolved and i'm in favor so i'd like to make a motion that we approve the agreement with peter's timeship school district for the school resource officer i would ask that the document be reviewed that page numbers be added and that you verify whether the engagement starts on august twenty seventh which is the first day of school or september first opposed to it but that did it but she felt that they did have to approve it and under their declaration a plain community requires sixty seven percent agreement to to so does so my  this a few weeks ago and was totally unaware of what was going on to i'm just trying to stand right now what changed me because i can look over there and i can see this area and you know who  our main concern initially was is this going to get overgrown with weeds and everything else like that and what else might be happening in that area so if somebody could just explain to me what's happening that would be nice so i could understand it  alleviate that encroachment warmblood which is being proposed is that they would give us land a day on their lot in the same amount and we're going to give them the park then encroach into this sort of a standard procedure that you used to do these kind of things is not a one off it's very very unusual one of the reasons i impression this was just remembered by us to not sell open space which we don't want to do under said and make a life for it like a transfer so that he doesn't have to tear up one major par you do things like that but it doesn't seem so we don't we don't have these situations very often or mine so i agree with you that it's not a common thing and it was my suggestion because i was the alternative is to simply make them tar why most responsible people to do it but you don't have i don't have any guarantee that that's going to happen or do i through this is the change longer than i was or the lever buys the parcel is going to be on notice that it's their responsibility to maintain has the ability just like we have the ability to have somebody who's encroaching remove the encroaching structure we would have the ability to would force that condition and force them to maintain that was my pro choice and i and i talked to the gentleman they said to present that to the learning board obviously i don't think anything happened with that there i'm suggesting that to you as well to consider selling that property to them that leaves me out of it everything stays as is and it doesn't affect my property as mr stewart said and you think as well from what you're taking you're taking two thirds of my rear property line and converting is open space you're taking sixty six feet from the back of the property no i know you're saying that you're going to put an amendment ended in the deed transfer the so this owner future owners must maintain it you know use you sit there and think ok a decent citizen is going to do this but what is the guarantee that they're going to do it's the township as the authorities do that well you have the authority to do something with the now and you're not you're you're finding another way to get out of it some other concession was cancelled well i think you should reconsider what result because the homeowner did the right thing and what i would not want to do is create a scenario where people thought they could get a permit tell the planning department they were going to put it one place and put something somewhere else and then come to the township and decide that they want to divide the property now i'm not sure how the mistake occurred but it's a mistake and you're absolutely right legitimately consecrate just say taken out ok but what s a piece of property saying it's two thirds of my rear border that goes to scuse me but if it goes to crap then i've got to look at it this owner is gone somebody else moves in i still have to deal with that and you would think like i said you would think a normal person would maintain that can you guarantee that it's not their property or it's outside their french line so really is it going to be maintained and who takes i mean from the conscious perspective who takes i mean who's responsibility or is liable for that piece of ground you've i've got there a lot nine years ago it's a residential lot in between two other residential lot now you're taking a piece of my border making it a common space which i mean there's kids playing  there they're going to run from this lot of that lot and they're going to be going through your land on and you're liable for that expectations or reliant for property owners on the open space that are being frustrated by what they're doing there but i agree with you that that may also require homeowners association approval also if it is the homeowners association association but just to there's been some vagueness about what the homeowner's involvement is in this and i can i can actually clear that up even though it's at the attorney to attorney level our bylaws our declaration states that any change to the declaration including plants and plans and it says that requires a sixty seven percent approval of the association so in essence changing the shape of a l e and a partial swap like this it would actually change our bylaws so after the planning commission approved this and it was going to go to council i call the homeowners association management company any attorney and said it looks like we're going to have to change our bylaws would you tell me how to do that because it looks like the township is going to look a this and that's when i spoke to the attorney the names lisa fact sixty seven percent of the people of the association signed off on it it will happen but we can't change it without that because it's the change to plan a plan which is included in our declaration and that's i don't know what the term runs with the land means you would know mr curry would know but that's the declaration that runs with the land so that we have to follow it or else i'm on the hot seat so i  you let me just try and understand the distinction between the protocols we're following here and what we're going to do in the case of other property owners have also we're doing two different schemes  d the difference between the two is that in one case my suit on my wife and i and our neighbor in our neighbors neighbor we've removed all the encroaching structures that are there  i may i ask a question thank you starting around there were a few payments for what looks to be final payments on projects to on the bridge and charging for the be bop bridge and sh developers came m r very vocal about how they were delayed can you give us any update on what kind of progress is going on and whether people have been able to move forward on terms of building a house occasion we did have a meeting with with jordan who is the city of his first collector because i realize the quarterly payments on the other holding on to him for the full sixty days but these are understanding that their power lovely were payments that quarterly that we probably should have had by now we did get the money from the south hills group which shortened it was a fairly large amount at one time the other thing that's an issue is because of the transfer names and i guess you will see in this one there was a fifty five thousand dollars worth of refunds and so that is also impacting our net at this time didn't you also share with the the trauma was missing them from your report was any offer or comment from want or trailers if it helped me remember but i thought that this all began to come more of an issue because of their improvements and the parking lot that they installed