said take a look at the record and to take a look and say how did this situation come about and whether i'm going to focus on our three issues to bring to the court's attention you hardly state court decision to to this court essentially on the grounds that there is fraud committed in the state court proceedings what if you're reading from the twenty five of the transcript point his own inexact wrong view of the role of chapter thirteen chapter thirteen i don't need to lecture you about this chapter thirteen is the statutory opportunity for homeowners to state in their homes that is not a foreclosure action it is it it is the ability for the for the federal courts to intervene to in order to preserve but very frequently and any kind of bankruptcy case including chapter thirteen cases there's underlying litigation in the state courts which needs to take place to determine who has rights to those who has rights to that and that's whe time it was authenticated by an expert that the underlying those that determines the real party in interest the person the entity that should be paid under a chapter thirteen and the entity that would have the the ability to to foreclose in a state court action that that was a forgery we have an expert test testimony for that depending on how you want to take a look at that issue it is it is is not precluded this is a this is a doozy discovered piece of evidence that has not even been b by the trial court on the motion to reopen the the foreclosure i talked to trial court tonight the motion and it's on appeal it did deny the motion but not on the grounds that nag that it hit the by the trial court in revisiting the initially passed on the foreclosure and that went on to appeal it was it was it was affirmed this is a new episode in the entire case and that is the september two thousand and sixteen discovery of an egge of a of a very provable be provable forgery of the no frivolous under any standard the first being that judge martin's order was quite sound that the confirmation hearing the debtor was required under eleven u s c thirteen twenty five thirty three to prove that the plan had been filed and proposed in good faith however the confirmation hearing on the planet self proved quite the opposite the plan that the debtor filed indicated that the payments to my claim that instead of making payments to my client they would put those mortgage payments into their attorneys trust fund until the quote real creditor appeared objected to that and judge martin sided with us far from concluding that issue still managed to ring it up for the district court but moreover this entire dispute over custody of the note was a complete waste of time because one judge martin if you just ruling saying that the order they said about her credibility that the fact that she had made this sort of request several times including in other cases just meant that she didn't have any credibility on this issue and that the court would no longer give her the benefit of the doubt judge connelly also questioned her about practicing in other cases during the ninety day extension that he gave her attorney nora had to admit that she had in fact practiced in other cases during that time had or had not i'm sorry had or had  practice that she had practiced in other cases during the ninety days when the court granted the second order to extend time it came with an admonition that no further extensions would be granted absent extraordinary circumstances and that is for any reason to turn time was that they had filed a motion in state court today kate or foreclosure judgment finally but they never really needed time for that process to complete this was an absolutely senseless request because judge martin's order that was under judgment that we won back in twenty fourteen which should be a fairly non controversial well established point of law that federal courts of courts in a jurisdiction that only the united states supreme court can review state court judgments whenever throughout this this is a valid argument to make in federal court it's clear to me that she's not going to stop this one if she's practicing my way every bottle we heard earlier that there was a passage in the transcript that judge calmly apparently misunderstood what chapter thirteen is about i've read that passage quite differently i think that judge connally was reacting to the fact that the arguments that had been made to him up until that point had all concerned challenged him in bankruptcy court before judge finally now judge martin but judge connelly who saved an order is the one in question here what is being litigated there is the standing of the of the purported party in interest to even collect the money that might come out of the chapter thirteen bankruptcy and the the other reference here was a two thousand and seventeen miss nora had an act of it and had a head injury and mother two thousand and seventeen was consumed with her recovery from that then was not delay and i would note two things one of them is that for much of two thousand and seventeen h s b c was clear to foreclose and never and the and the an in the last moment is that now the trial judge in wisconsin although he denied on procedural grounds the the motion to reopen that's now on appeal that he thought enough of the claim of forgery that he has put a state on the writ of execution or the writ of assistance i think they call it it was godsend and they listened leases are still in