to provide testimony from our district offices individuals who wish to offer testimony from honolulu i should now sign up with the district office staff individuals who wish to offer testimony in the chamber please sign up at the desk located on the eighth floor lobby just outside the chamber door testimony at all locations is limited to the items listed on today's agenda and pursuant to the rules of the counsel each testifier is allowed to testify for up to three minutes with one minute to conclude if requested when testifying please state your name in the name of any organization you represent hon office please identify yourself and introduce your first identify yourself and introduce your first testifier good and there is no one here waiting to testify but thank you mr chair we have seven individuals who have signed up to provide testimony in to the first individual to provide testimony is tried net for tidal testifying on committee report fifteen dash twenty four to be followed by john fitzpatrick recent hearing on this issue is unbecoming of a commission member whose position is to alarm or the ensuring our cultural resources are protected and managed effectively at the county level i saw council member cavelos comments that she ad passion and believes that miss kotch you are goostman quote brings a flavor of our host culture and local culture to the commission oh where health and i am appalled at that remark as if to infer that the whole sculpture of probably is one of exclusion of petty rude behavior a flavor of local culture which is that combative and dismissive that is not may i have her testimony at your last meeting was littered with examples of bigotry clearly attempting to separate people one not just white people cars had vote your vote yes stickers on it and two i'd like to know what kind of people are quote people like her who voted you into office remember it's people like me to mothers farmers fishermen sales people many people participated in the process that gives you your seats today also i'd be interested to know how she got the names of those four to five hundred people who supposedly aren't residents or pay taxes this information is some that your average resident has no access to was there collusion with someone in another county department to obtain that information i seriously hope not because that should be something that would be investigated passion is one thing but excusing and supporting behavior unbecoming a commission member is another this position requires sensitivity and porno action people need to feel that they can have conversations with you and come to a positive outcome her kind of divisive racist bigoted attitude is unacceptable john fitzpatrick and i to ask that you oppose the appointment or the reappointment of christie guzmn to my county cultural resource commission as was said before i feel like someone that is in a leadership role should be able to show leadership through an election whether they agree with you or not and from the actions that i saw during the election i don't think she has the leadership abilities to hold this position so i say you oppose t put in the record when she seemed to state she had four or five hundred you names from license plates on cars with vote yes stickers which she discussed with her attorney i really don't know how she might have access to such comprehensive information as they did from license plates so i followed by brad my job very seriously i have the highest integrity i would never introduced politics into my classroom and told my students which way to vote one way or another and the fact is i haven't worked at yale for three years so how she got my name is really confusing she u i was deeply disturbed by this embarrassed by this luckily the principal told her i don't work there and i haven't worked there for years and i was really confused as to where she would have even got my name for this for this slander basically she's never apologized  she's never even contact me i would think that they would contact me first before they made some slander statement i also think somebody in this position should so aloha in the highest integrity the aloha that's been seen as conditional based on your race if you own a home and what your political beliefs are aloha is not conditional just like love i hope we can find a candidate can they can truly bring honor and pride to this position somebody that will represent and make testifier is brad edwards testifying one committee report fifteen twenty four to be followed by alan local council members my name is brett edwards i'm a social worker here on maui i'm here to testify against the reappointment of miscues and into the cultural resources commission and i set about here on march twentieth i provided you with screenshots of things that miscues and has posted online i was under the impression this was new information that you didn't have and convinced you'd be shocked as i was and vote against  appointment however after reviewing information from previous council meetings i determine that you knew of the history of aggressive volatile and discriminatory behavior and five members still voted for her re appointment this is not a he said she said kind of situation my opposition is based soley on was guzman's own words and actions and i'm shocked at the way members of this council of sought to minimize her aggressive and volatile behavior council member victory in a set about ms guzman quote she has a passion she has a fire she's a little spark plug and i can really appreciate that i can't speak for council member victoria but i can speak for myself when i say that is guzman's words and actions can be called many things but passionate is not one of them they were not cute or enduring as council member victory no would lead you to believe council member buys a set about  know people say she gets angry well which one of those put in a situation like that doesn't get angry i think we all have tempers in this room as well yes i agree everyone does get angry but as adults and professionals behavior that is an exhibit it is intolerable and is in no way acceptable for a public official and it certainly shouldn't be condoned by five members of this council who are essentially lowering the bar for everyone in this community mr couch said about misusing his reappointment boy you know we talk about temper and as miss buys a said i don't think anyone on here hasn't lost their temper on this board so i think temper something that i'm surprised that people are going on i actually don't know how to respond to this except to say that council member couches words are almost as concerning as ms guzman's and i'm wondering that after hearing them read out loud he would still stand by them today one's temper means that a person is not in control of their emotions contrary to mr caster's counsel or couches opinion is concerning there is no place for behavior like this in our community to minimize the situation by acting like we all do things like that has done is a disservice i took legal guardianship of a teenager a couple years back whose family couldn't take care of him anymore and i occasionally get a call from the school when he gets into trouble and the last thing i do is to make excuses for him i make him take full responsibility and they can face the consulate's consequences of his actions because that's how he learns that's how i teach him and voting for him is goossens reappointment and rewarding you're rewarding the very type of behavior that we hold our young people accountable for every day behavior sets a poor example for all our youth and sets a bad precedent for what we will and will not stand for as a community to my knowledge has given it has yet to even apologize for her words or actions but isn't if instead deflected her responsibility by professing all the harm that others have done to her while it might not be well might be uncomfortable to hold her accountable as some of you may personally know her i expect nothing less than all nine members of this board to vote no on reappointing or i'm confident after reassessing all that's been brought forward and stays here and you'll realize that voting i'm sorry commission i have known christie for many many years and to know her as a good and wonderful parent and i think everybody here would agree with me if our children were stre thin we would do the same thing there is a lot of animal instinct in our as a human being and as a mother bear if her cubs are threatened she would not walk away from the situation and i feel christie is passionate in her actions she she's a very very hard worker and people who know her for many years would agree with me that she starts something she never gives up so i urge you to appoint her reappoint her to the cultural resources commission thank you thank you mister there is a need for clarification aloha chair white and members of the council first of all to miss annie cochran my deepest apologies for the comment made in our last meeting i wish your forgiveness for that comment i know we've all made mistakes  i believe you've all received letters of written testimony from first of all my business partner misleading of russia wilson and second of all one of my mentors mr richard he gosh should have been distributed i'm here today to tell you a little bit more about myself and why i want to serve on the cultural resources commission and some of the things that i i currently do and have done in this community growing up in  child we used to be practically forced to sit on the street corners holding signs for candidates such as governor waving at people passing by volunteering to pick up for our british and sit through long and boring meetings with the council the mayor and at the union hall with my grandparents who were highly involved in the community i was just make sure numerous events for our local elected officials made to serve drinks and food to the senior citizens helping them carry their plates and move their chairs when i was in the eighth grade i was selected to go to washington d c as a student ambassador for a program called washington workshops i was selected to dance for the passing of our quite sen spark months when i go i was one of the first student visitors in senator daniel his office i have seen and been through the closure of four sugar plantations on the island of koichi i have seen our family local families struggle lose their jobs being forced to move to other places and losing themselves in the struggle to survive in our tough economy and that was a long time ago but growing up the way that the way that i did i saw and i learned many things one was the importance of sticking together and working together my grandparents lived on family property which was passed down through generations three houses house mama's house and grandma's house when one house somebody was down and out we all came to help even if it meant working a part time job after high school to help pay the bills sleep overs with cousins and living with grandma and grandpa was a way of life things in hawaii have truly began to change began to change we are fortunate here in maui conti to still have some of that fast forward to today i was reason such a way to know that family and culture is very important my family is here today and my husband and my children we have chosen to do quite the same with our children most of you here today know them we've helped you with numerous events and done various activities are school and church groups ask us to do the follow up big lalo teach them how to cook squid do all botero and pong point all of which is done right on our own family property here in a way hey valley in conclusion the difference between me and anyone else that you could get in the council in the community today is that i will live here my family is rooted here and i will not one community association since two thousand and ten and we've appeared before you folks before the council before especially during the time when the island plan was going through so it's items like that and also as i stated in the first meeting you know putting the building into the historical registry and supporting things like that in the community that i feel are very important because it definitely shows our way of life and our past and i am a water user as well for our top patches that we have in our yard so those kinds of issues i feel are important and we also volunteer with the again i have no doubt in my mind about your qualifications your background and your your love for our community my issue still is number one were you able to check with the the sorry the prosecutor's office were there that the police report number fourteen gosh zero four six five zero eight was what we would call no the processor no process did check several times i checked actually again last week and i was told that there was nothing in the system that's all i was told ok so thank you anything for their members so you know and thank you for being here today mr clinton mr chair there are no further individuals signed up to testify in the council chamber if there's any additional individuals in the council chamber or in the district offices who would like to offer testimony office are there any additional testif committee committee report fifteen twenty four recommending that the resolution relating to the appointment of members to boards committees and commissions for the canio be adopted one to approve the appointment o following members to the board committees and commissions for the county for terms beginning on april first two thousand and fifteen and expiring on march thirty first twenty twenty eight to the fire and public safety commission one molly county cultural resources commission one christie reappointment and two disapprove the appointment of the following members to the boards committees and commissions for the county of  into government affairs committee recommend the mare's nomination of certain members to various boards commissions and committees your committee also recommended to disapprove of two nominations your committee was satisfied that the nominees recommended for approval were qualified in full field there and would reform field or duties and responsibilities related to the board and in and in which they are being appointed i've i the council's consideration on this motion thank you michel thank you members discussion miss cochran thank you chair and chair i moved up the main motion be divided so that the were into the molly county cultural resources commission can be considered separately from the approval and disapproval of the five other nominations reference in committee report fifteen dash twenty four second we have a motion by miss cochran and a second by mr guzman to divide the committee report to you consider separately the nomination of christie council member robert carroll council member and six knows motion feels ok thank you mr clerk we're back to the main motion any further discussion members chair sorry cochran so a ll on the main motion so my reason for it was because of i guess the undue delay for the other people on the list so you know my motion was never to point towards any of the others it was just to single out the one to you know single lead vote on it and so i stand by my vote and i think everyone knows how i feel and the way i've been voting in the past i stick to that so i will and it has no bearing on my negative vote will have no bearing on the other candidates nominees it's just that because of the way it's being done right now it will so initially each of the of the nominees were voted separately in the committee and several of them had questions to that to their nomination so they were deferred so i again another separation from the entirety so if you look at it there were separations from the very beginning of talking about each and every one of the nominations but yet when it comes to the council floor on a full council it's one resolution it's either you vote for all of it or you vote for none of it i mean one or all i mean basically i feel that we need to correct the situation so to allow the members who voted no on a couple of the nominees to reflect their vote from the committee and in particularly kristie koosman i i know that there were four votes in opposition and five in support so those four council members who voted in opposition are not allowed to reflect their same vote as they did in the p r i a committee and there are forced to vote yes turn their turn their original vote around so that the rest of the nominees can clear that's why i voted no in this situation not necessarily because of chrissy but to allow also our members to fulfill the continuity of how they voted in the committee the standing committee i also had issues as to whether the police reports were or were dismissed or not i know that our last investigation i received reports from the prosecutor's office indicating at least over nine hundred cases pending in backlog so for for them to say that only a few months ago they cleared it is surprisingly is surprising to me so in that russia now i don't think those cases were handled either they were in fact handled there would have been an official and pino law process attached to it or a letter to the victims or the complaining witness is void of that i am still unsure whether these cases will come up again in the future and that's why i voted no in the committee my my rationale stands on the structure and procedures of how these resolutions are put forth and i and this vote of no is not against any of the nominees but how it was presented they were presented in again i reiterate they were presented separately voted on separately and committee but yet now they're all in one resolution denying the ability of council members to vote consistent consistently with their no opposition to several of the  nominees so that being said i'll yield the floor at this time thank you than any further discussion members mr okama chairman council can do whatever it wants already to the child we took a vote on a motion to choose how we wanted to move forward this specific report was there a motion an issue i don't believe there was a motion initially on the council because i chaired that council and i believe mr okama was called on that day i think i was referring to the motion earlier this day in this meeting mr victory no thank you and if you recall correctly at the end when we took the vote we took the vote on the entire group we had approved and then we took on the rules and disapproval when we choose we made the vote and if it was done properly and i have no qualms in how i ran the meeting and how we got it done thank you ms tippett the chair would just like to point out that when we vote on things at the council level it's after a lot of committee work and a lot of things that we discuss in committee don't make it past because we don't have enough support so this is just one more item  very similar nature it's not unlike many of the things that we pass and there's a part of me that would like to ensure as we hear from member carol every time i do committee work in committee so i think there is some emotion involved in this but i think it's time for us to move forward so i'm recommending that the resolution approving yeah appointment of david syria to the urban design review board for a term beginning on april first two thousand and fifteen and expiring on march thirty first twenty twenty be adopted committee report fifteen dash twenty six recommending the following one that the resolution approving the appointment of james lee or e to the cool agricultural park committee for term expiring on march thirty first tw moved up the recommendations in committee report fifteen twenty five and fifteen dashed twenty six seconds and move by mr the current seconded by mr couch to pass the recommendations and committee reports fifteen twenty five and fifteen twenty six for any further discussion members record resolutions fifteen thirty one thirty two fifteen dash thirty three fifteen dash thirty four respectively and mystic chair there is no further business before the coun mr clerk with that members