pursuant to mastering the laws chapter one forty eight and amendments they too will conduct a public hearing on tuesday april first two thousand and fourteen at seven fifteen p m in the foxboro high school media center so street foxboro massachusetts on the application to meeting from the detective similary that the file for bill sheehan dating back in one nine hundred sixty four always found was located while they were moving approximately eighteen blocks of the old file boxes exactly what to call them from when they relocated to the moon station i do not know what's in that file i've not seen it i know they have it and i said i was going  thank you note no problem here on behalf of cumberland farms relative to this site at twenty mechanics street we are proposing to redevelop that site with another common forms building so essentially raise the entire site take the building down the gas pumps the gas tanks all the pavement and essentially start fresh with a new site but it will be another cumberland farms and as part of that project the existing underground storage tanks that are there will be removed and the new double wall fiberglass basically state of the art tanks will be installed so we're here before you tonight requesting an amendment to the existing license to allow for those new tanks to be installed is your gallon capacity going to increase with the gallon capacity is going to increase the exist license is for thirty thousand they actually gallants they actually have twenty four thousand in the ground right now so they don't actually have what that license is for they have less in it where applying for to twenty thousand gallon tanks so forty thousand total which is really industry standard now they're compartmentalize tanks so each tank has a twelve thousand gallon compartment and in an eight thousand gallon compartment the two twelve thousand gallon compartments one in each tank hold the regular gasoline then one of the eight thousand gallon compartments holds the premium and the other eight thousand holds diesel so it's forty thousand total gallons that we're requesting the project required site plan approval through the planning board which we've received a special permit and some variances through the c b a which we've received it's on septic we've received the health approval so we're here to to request the member to the license  and then we're ready to move forward and pull a building permit at that point and i notice he contacted a lot of a butters was there any any feedback from the voters know it and that reminds me of the green cards  the only feedback we got during any of those hearing processes was during the z b a hearing the a butter a media tour north is a multi family residence and the owners of that i believe they rented out of the owners of the house came and they were actually very supportive of the project the only concern they had was we had originally had located or proposed to locate the tanks on that side of the property the site closer to their their house they requested that we move them over to the other side which is closer just a railroad tracks there's no house on that side we gladly did that that wasn't a problem and and so the tank has proposed and it's approved by a and planning are on the rare outside site at the site road track side of the site which is actually where they're located now so the new tanks will censor essentially going the same location as as they are in today a good a good  the overseeing of the removal of the old ones we've worked with those people before so i don't anticipate any issues with them on brothers who is the company doing the construction the amount brothers or i don't think they've selected and i actually looked at the site plan and i was happy to see the monitoring wells going in seems like the neighbors are happy it's going to be an upgrade of the site and in time you take the old lady's tanks and put the double wall fiberglass you meeting all the c m i regulations i wish you  for that and so we're probably looking at you know mid to late spring being the gulf of boat in a week's time we turn around oh yeah i'd say ten to twelve weeks you know they they push it as fast as they can so they're minimizer down time ok great i'll grab a so the first president really wonderful gift from the senior but i really wanted to talk a little bit about the grant and i got from the executive office of elder affairs because it's such a really exciting opportunity there's a lot of through the george mason university and the national councils on aging in washington and we're one of fourteen senior centers in the country to have this grant to ward so the purpose of the study is to look at how small changes kin kin help with with healthy choices for seniors so there is a fear of course eight core programs that are going to be presented i've had tremendous support from the community from brigham and women's health center from the y m c a in foxborough from has elder services community visiting nurses walgreens so we have experts from all of those places coming in to do educational component for the first eight weeks of the the grant and that's exclusively for the people that are the participants studies we were allowed to have twenty five to thirty five people and we are at maximum capacity we have thirty five people in the program so the seniors are really excited about it and supportive about making healthy changes some of the topics are exercising nutrition and medication management  communicating with the doctor planning for the future falls prevention so it's a whole host of core programs that help people learn skills to be age is called  aging mastery program is the name of the project so i just like that it's more than just accepting a grand it's just something that's really a wonderful opportunity for the seniors and and a great opportunity for the  for the community partners to to kind of shine through the whole process so it's a sixteen week program the first eight weeks are just for the study participants weeks nine to sixteen are kind of where we can have fun and make it exciting we've had we have the things that we do complementary to the first corps programs so for example medication management is going to be done by a pharmacist the next segment and weeks nine hundred sixteen we're going to have the d a s office come in do talk about safe drug safe drug disposal and i've gotten a commitment from the new england patriots and patriot place merchants at the end we're going to do kind of a big wrap up where the seniors can have a little giveaways that they get from different stores or you know we're trying to work on what that will be and then the final the the grand finale is going to be at c b s scene so it's just a really exciting program and i just thought it was worth telling you that it's more than just a fifty five hundred dollars it's you know a really great opportunity for the senior center in one of fourteen in the nation and to the seniors to be able to participate in this and you know have they have a pretest that they do in posthaste and all of that work is studied so that the the research people can can try to figure out what worked and what didn't and you know so i just want to know about it so i just want to say well congratulations i think it's really terrific and i was fortunate to be there one afternoon with a group of people that when chris sure reduced the whole program everybody trying to recruit people she has great salesmanship skills and did a fantastic job presenting you know really yeah well he can people's interest so they know he has a grant when when we got the application it was such a quick turnaround you know we had to apply by the end of february and then start implementing the program in mid march and i had a line up all of these speakers so getting the word out to people we were nervous that we were wouldn't get the minimum of twenty five in here we maxed out at the thirty five's and so it's been you know really well received and it's very exciting so i just wanted you out you know  affairs in collaboration with national council aging and mass councils on aging to the council on aging in human services in the amount of five thousand five hundred dollars it's purpose is to recruit participants and implement the aging mastery program which is a support the foster a council on aging and human services just a little history even one passed away a couple years ago and her trust she left this chain council on aging and i she was a former client of mine and i was able to work with her and her brother to close up the estate and the monies became available just recently so right she was a really special lady future boy to actually do what we have intended it to be done and that be a working document and that's why the section we're talking about right now with the data is fresh but will need to be addressed and changed depending on some designated of the city that they were not residents and so we're really excited about where we are at this point is that excited you can be about planning stuff which is sometimes is a real sleeper but  consultants to prepare the master plan and kathy's role forte is local economic development one of our first jobs was running the main streets program in boston and she's very much on the ground small scale talk to the neighbors talk to the local businesses and she took very much the same approach here in foxboro a lot of the factors that she found that affect our town center affect many down town small town downtowns the internet has become people's shopping mall of choice if you will you know people will sometimes pay a little bit more money for something if they can get the post office the bay the c d s and one other place convenience has become very important in people's lives whether it's foxboro or any other community but she did find that there were some very unique features to our downtown and the historic character in the town center the common memorial hall the value that people in the community over ninety percent of the people in the survey felt that their favorite places in town where the town center the common morial all the library bethany church places in the town center people no matter how far they lived from the town center feel like it's their place they are the center of their unity so i felt like people were very invested in the town center they very much wanted to see it succeed they wanted to think creatively about what could be done kathy identified a number of opportunities which have to do with some town known project properties that ms brew is very familiar with we always joke about old firehouse a hole but in the fire house the funeral home is a home and one of the key things that kathy did when she analyzed the business community downtown is that she was able to quantify the benefit of debt after having the town hall in the town center the employees of town hall support all the lunch or places we buy coffee downtown where in and out of s constantly as as consumers spending money where we're at important part of the economic component of what is downtown and having a town hall downtown is part of that convenience you can go to the post office you can go to town hall drop off your tax bill or pick up your dog license or whatever it is the whole sense that you can do multiple stops in a short trip in the town center both for the benefits to the merchants because we spend money there and for the benefits of the citizens it makes their lives much more convenient that they can do multiple stops and convenience trips i have here the chance to at least look at the summary and if you have any questions and i don't know if kevin wants to add anything yeah i just want to say a couple quick things one is you know when when the c v s came in and spot and this was way prior to this planning process i was a place where we were very encouraged that that was a decision that allowed the town center to remain vibrant and at the time they were just starting to build out saying oh that's going to be the no two new town center and and while it is an act of place it's not the town center the town center still today is what it is another very interesting thing about some of the work that cathy did was she interviewed students here in this building high school students to see what they liked about the town what they thought about the town what how they'd like to see the town progress as they stay hearing and you know just start their own families and predominantly they also felt like the town center was an important part of their experience growing up in foxborough so it really cut across all age groups and the public versus business so that's really what it also we gave you d s rather than printed out is available at our website this particular portion because of the bulk of the file with the graphics and stuff it's going to load sections of it but if you go to the town website planning board section there is a section called master plan  folks at home can can download this and when you're looking at it we'll hope that you look at it just picked out an example as we said it's a snapshot of today and this is what all of the surveys and participate in from towns from what we've heard from folks if they don't support these changes when it comes time to vote on it and the town goes in a different direction for example the town hall were not to be built and we as a planning board are going to have to go back and revisit the section that talks about the post office and the down and town hall being downtown and have to look at the downtown again and then say well that's no longer here what is what is the next thing that folks are looking to do and it will be acceptable to go forward as a community the other but i forgot to mention the other boards have been very supportive of the process we've had very good buy in from all of the boards we have met extensively with water and sewer and they actually stretched there so it district because initially it didn't meet what we now currently know is that is the business district and we wanted to make sure that if there was flow available it would be within that district and and whatever change of use came in front of different boards it would be possible to do it because it was within the sewer district we would have to go sleigh six dragons and wind up in the center of town that you could go back to the master plan and sort of you know tack in and come up with a solution or another recommendation land recommendation there would be hopefully a suitable hall wasn't kept where it is that portion of the master plan is no longer valid because the reasons for keeping it there and in the fact that it's no longer there obviously need to be removed so what is the community's what would be to be looking to do and can be our hearing process surveys so that's also massive players in essence a guide but it's not a dictator variety of reasons not to be a document that just got back on the nice book and sat on the shelf we really wanted to be a living thing we wanted to be active and as things change in different sections of talent as the population changes in the business needs change you know you need to open it up and look at it and say ok this is how it is today fifteen years from now or whatever the time frame is and how our we living now how we adjust to make the way we live better just like you if you think decided in the town meeting that route one was going to be our economic engine so that change that that whole thought process so if that were now there would be look at a master pointed to adjust it to that one of the sections that we have is far more evolved than just say do we stretch the economic overlay district do we do we eliminate it as one thing we just tweak that so that was for us that was i over that we a lot of work to do just to address that area and you say i mean we probably don't say it enough but him you two in particular and you shine do a tremendous job at the at the planning board level and a lot of us some of us have gone to those economic engines two years ago the biggest buzz you think it was a casino but even before that it was the power outages in a lot of the businesses as we want to make sure we you know number one priority is having power yeah you know if you ask them today it's probably something else and next year it's going to be something else you have your hands in a lot of the stuff before it comes to us and the master plan you can kind of guide it and there's a lot of benefit you know downtown a lot of discussion what happens with the fire station what happens with the different businesses we can't really do anything until ssris addressed that's not our board it's not your board so it can't really move forward unless restaurants come in and then that's liquor licenses so that's our board and we can do a lot of the stuff and you know some of the articles are talking about drive through and stuff until we get through your board so maybe in the in the future probably near a future then further future if we could sit together doesn't have to be as flac wins meaning but share some of the ideas the liquor licenses new liquor licenses applications thought process came in that's not to be on this town meeting but you talk to some people in there you know we've had enough no more liquor licenses and you talk to other and if it's planned well and depending on who has control of it it could move fox field out of the bill i talked to a little bit about this fox bill down to the center well that's under development and so there's a lot of opportunity and i can tell you for a fact we can't do it by ourselves because you have the master plan effort and now i was amazed that the people that came public safety building town hall the pushpins the you know you don't want online there's a lot of information and between water sewer the billboards the selectmen in the playing board there's an opportunity we can share some of those ideas and it i think you guys have been in it long enough it's not going to be a book on the shelf bring you know the whole team and will be able to do it within the confines of the town so so we're at a certain point with this and the town meeting voted it was either thirty five or forty thousand to do a master  we at the end of that or we it was i think it was actually it was it was more than that we are we have the end of this one hundred twenty five thousand dollars and that funded two thirds of the work last town meeting we went back for fifty six thousand five hundred dollars to finish it which will go back out for public process this middle faces been doing a lot of homework doing a lot of study being very thoughtful about how transportation impacts the environment how sewer and water impacts economic development kind of not thinking of all the chapters as silos but as intersections and thinking a lot about opportunities so now we're at the point of saying this is what it is now what is the future we as a community would like to see and how do we get there what do we need to do to make that future happen and we want to go out for more public input and we anticipate that there will be many more workshops perhaps another survey we have plans to do video events that will people can watch at home or will get on you tube or whatever it is to kind of figure out the big picture issues of the master plan and talk about what the future is of the community we neither let change happen or well where we all like to think we've done a great job we actually made surprise surprise mistakes along the way and one of the one of the big ones we made initially we talked about is we're just going to do the downtown those our mistake was we didn't step back and say wait a minute we're going to do this part for x dollars and we combine to make it a bigger project we really should have that time said the money requested isn't going to the projects that much bigger yeah so rather than keep coming back to the welsh areas we're very good at bringing grants or stuff that allowed us to do other components of it without coming back to the board but we're now chapters by the middle of april i'm worried viewing the next set of those should be up by the end of the week the economic development strategy for the town as a whole the transportation section and then there's a few final chapters in all that will be up there and if people have questions please give us a call we'll be glad to share what we know pretty things out for you give you a diskette or whatever they can do to be part exception of a couple of items the mouse requested by the departments are also the amount recommended by myself i know there are a couple of spots the planning  one where it actually did request is the what we recommended but they initially were looking for a full time position twenty committee in the key made a compelling case advisory committee encouraged her increase the requests to nineteen which she did but the recommendation was for ten hours so that's the difference there and then the border recreation has a capital outlay request of eleven thousand dollars yes which is going to the tennis court which is located on the playground last year they did the fencing this year the looking to board recreations to act it's only used by them on a limited basis during the summer in the camp time but the rest of the year it's open to the public so those those are the highlights on the budget and if you have a particular questions one page for detail revenue forecast and then this the warrant article behind that as well as the updated capital article was a minor change there the changes that came in over the last couple of days where the following the southeastern regional school sas meant it was reduced by five thousand nine hundred ninety seven dollars based on the latest budget that is being proposed by the superintendent and  insurance program and we had assumed a seven percent premium increase for this year and he's telling me at this point that it's safe to go with a five point four percent increase as opposed to seven and so that resulted in a reduction of sixty one thousand two hundred seventy nine dollars to department one hundred fifteen just a footnote on that one if it weren't for the affordable health care act required funding items for a certain programs to be managed by the federal government our rate would have increased closer to something like two percent but so there's about three to four percent that's going to the federal government as a result of funding some of these for the health care operations  the other item was on snow and ice or snow and ice deficit based on the latest update just over the last couple of weeks i've had to increase our contingency number comes off the top of that five fifteen taxes by forty seven thousand three hundred that should be should be a pretty good number should be within about five thousand or so of the number and then the library confirmed that twenty thousand substance of all the changes that you see on the operating budget and it leaves us at this point time with a cushion of about one hundred thirty five thousand without any state or rainy and i  talked about forty five minutes on this today one item that jumped out was business sixteen point six percent increase in our retirement pensions retirement you know and it rained if you give me a great explanation but just so that everyone here is the same explanation about what's happening this year what's going to happen if you choose a sure no four county is taking a more aggressive approach to the funding of the unfunded pension liability foxboro is one of several communities that participates with not for county and in the in the past our assessment had been about seventeen point six percent of pensionable salaries and that's gone up by a full two percent for next year based on their  latest actuarial update of the unfunded liability and their pulling in of the date slightly of when they would like to be fully funded so rather than seventeen point six percent were funding now at about one thousand point six percent of salary that's expected to increase based on the the latest actuarial study released by their actuary probably is going to be over twenty percent next year go as high as twenty one percent before it starts to cycle down  the intent is that about ten twelve years out it will come down dramatically and funding primarily just the pay should go benefits for pensions as the liability just fully funded but that was unexpected it was about a quarter million dollar increase beyond what we had forecast as an increase in that account so the monies that go to that is that that tied into the meals tax from the opec since it's as it's like that if we're taking the money into our budget and keeping it separate from the unfunded liability opap is that is that the same money that could go there or is that coming from the general it's coming from the general fund the pension assessment  payments that we make every year it's actually a single payment comes out of the general fund receipts and it's always been to fund the operating budget in and all the other stuff but they're increases based on their overhead correct so wouldn't we be able to tap into our op ed payments to go there since it's apples to apples well the policy the board voted on the the meals tax funding is to support the health insurance unfunded liability and the roads program so the board could you know modify that if they wanted to not ask you to modify but i guess that's where the i'm confusing because the are the unfunded liability for health is different than what this two percent increase ok yet to two different unfunded liabilities that pension liability is actually been funded since i think it was one nine hundred eighty two or something like that they've been funding it for a while with a target date initially i think was twenty twenty six and then they've been moving that day in and out to be fully funded and they pushed it out and they just pulled it back in again a little bit but you're too different to different liabilities to fund so we're going to see these increases pretty steadily for the next decade  looks like a which should follow it should and in relative terms they will flatow maybe in the next two to three years before it starts to level off so we start to see you know reasonable you know single digit increases before to start feel all things being equal one more question if i just want to talk about the social services position and i was present for the discussion at the advisory committee and they made a really good case for the need for this and what i wanted to suggest the board consider would be having that position be a twenty hour position because i think in terms of recruitment for a critical position like this having it benefited would give the opportunity for more people out there to apply and give them probably a better pool selection pool so i just want to throw that out there i think it's very important not on their recommendation you know so can i can i just comment on that because we had told all of the departments to go with level services and that is not a level service and needs extra staffing and even she agreed to cut back to a part time position that did not require any benefits if you jump to the twenty hour position then you now create a benefit a position we didn't think that was appropriate and  she initially requested ten talked to us at the time about going from one thousand now position and really what she's trying to do is free up some grant funding that she has so the positions are already there it's being paid by a grant increase ten thousand five hundred approximately just for that for the salary if benefits were to be included in upon the plan could be anywhere from another you know ten to fifteen thousand certainly within the as i said we have a we have a cushion at this point in time to work but again i think i'm you know just based on the story that vicki told i think it's a really important service that they're providing and it certainly needs beefing up  so that that was one thing i wanted the board to consider another thing as part of that same discussion for the recreation capital outlay request for eleven thousand they have a revolving account with a significant balance in a that where the need for social services was identified to have this eleven thousand come out of their existing revolving account balance  was one way to offset the expenses associated with that increase to that i'm questing for consideration for twenty hours just a general question i'm glad planning board is here i'm just the request for a one thousand hours in the board the planning department does such great work and again i don't want to sound like i'm spending money like crazy here but it just seems like sharon is always working on a project that brings in more and more funds to the town to make other things happen so you know the work is being mr cutler and  one can be twenty five hours in one could be nineteen hours and we thought the worst came to worst that would address pressing needs so we're desperate for any help we feel that we can live with he proposed one thousand hours and we're grateful for the support that we're getting so thank you you have i think there should be full time position and i'm saying it that's all well and good and you know there are a lot of departments that could justify a full time position and i didn't think you know under the circumstances where we were in transition that it would be make sense to address any at this time until the new town manager was in and had the ability to review every department and to single one department over another i think is unfair to those other departments so i'm asking you to go with the recommended amount and i would not address a budgetary item  an expense item like eleven thousand to pay off a salary amount i just would not have i would not do that and the reason why we did that budget item eleven thousand dollars is because there's been an attempt to make the border recreation self sufficient and they're getting very close but when you take more monies away from them make making it more difficult to make them self sufficient so that's why we thought it would be a good know the the charges level service into the whole one department out and not hearing all the other departments then i think that's a presence i don't know if we want to start tonight but taking capital expense for you know living for a tennis court and putting it into a recurring expense for a salary that may feel good this year but we're going to be dealing with the next year when we get that money from because that eleven thousand might not be there next year so i think it needs attention more on a permanent solution rather than just taken from the record in putting it into a salary and i don't think tonight is that this has been discussed at the at common law and i believe so to put it at this table in a quick discussion doesn't make a lot of sense to me randy what's the balance on that revolving account there are multiple special revenue funds that the recreation department has and any given point in time the uncommitted amounts range anywhere from about two hundred fifty thousand to three hundred thousand dollars so you know i think again it's it just makes sense to me that that's the purpose of it that it should come out of a revolving account similar to how the schools use their revolving accounts for capital items could it does seem to be in nowhere land situation the tennis courts i don't know that the way i go to school claims it or any other school or recreation department i think what he's explained is that it's not a revenue generating asset you know for the they they address this the fencing issues for safety purposes they made a compelling case that even though we're trying to move them away from being dependent upon the general fund which they've made as bob said they made great progress and they did make a good case that since they they paid a proxy this amount to address the fencing and other hours i'd like to make a motion to approve the budget with the social services position at nineteen hours and the  from i'd like to move that the funding for the pavement of the tennis courts come out of the recreation revolving account and reduce the expense lin they're going to be discussing it i believe tomorrow night randy and i will be in front of them and we'll address that with the board there's even the advisory committee listens you have material in front of you you have department heads explaining so they work in a vacuum because one board member wants to take it from a department and then i think it just opens up to have all the departments of the community and explain why their department should or should not be made very minor but the in the summer the kids use it in the summer games just maybe that is unless the recreation department has a program on that asset they're not responsible for is that the way the recreation department charter reads that i don't think it's that clear cut and i remember when the discussion came up a couple years ago on at the capital c ip on the tennis courts it was a fencing because it was a hazard to fencing that kids would get under it was electricity and i think they fixed it because it was a necessity and it was a quick fix but i don't think they take ownership to maintain it and run it as their asset they get they don't and they agreed to do the financing last year so i think a little seven thousand that's that's impacts are the revenues that are available to fund the f five fifteen budget so it doesn't affect any particular line item here the snow and ice budget stays intact it's just how will fund this year's deficit the amount that we have to plan for is of memorial hall initially in the first draft of this appendix a we had we showed fifty percent of the funding coming from free cash and fifty percent of the funding coming from grants that grant you know is design known and so rather than have fifty percent of each one of these line items associated with town funds and grant funds met with gen and then bill you have to review what made the most sense in terms of what should be funded first presuming that the town funds would be available if if approved first in the grant funds may not be available so so you you see the the funds are now lined up with either free cash or grant funds except for one that's i sent out a memo to the board on this but i don't want to read the whole memo because it's quite lengthy but ok in researching this article i looked up the original boat that was taken to create the scenic roads in foxborough that article is pretty clear what it says is basically after a road has been designated as a scenic road any repair maintenance reconstruction or paving work done with respect to it that involves the cutting of trees or the moving of walls or that the alteration of walls that are within the right of way requires it's the approval of the planning board and a public hearing and notification of a bar is within one hundred feet of the area affects the town i have affects national grid or who are responsible for the power lines that go overhead that aren't defeated with by trees that may be on the public right  so i looked at all the streets that were listed in the article and i live wrote a little blurb on each of them and what i ended up coming up with is a request the table action on these because they're all on the two thousand fifteen or two thousand and sixteen list to have repairs done on the and i'd prefer not to have to go through the herrings and the planning board to be able to do the repairs that are necessary to take care of those roads i would urge the board of selectmen to look at those times also and make your own determination i gave details on each of them and the other thing i'm concerned about is the amendments and i'd like the board to pay careful attention to the amendments and how they affect the work that the town does other than that i have no problem with making scenic roads part of this article as long as they you know fall in the four corners of a scenic road that's article twenty seven the way i see it and i'll wait to hear from everybody else on if you want i can go to twenty eight or we'll stop with twenty seven and i'll take any questions you might have if you so yeah and i think you wanted to come in front of the board when this came in front of us but i did it did you hear didn't work out then why go so you've got a  right away which is a certain distance of the town owns from border to border and most on on older roads in town mostly undefined it's difficult to pin down right away so on the outside of the right away one is private this does not apply does not apply most on their hearing until next wednesday night which you know i next thursday i mean and i'm unable to attend that so i sent them the memo but they know they know exactly what you know so the more existing scenic roads in town that have had work done on them and this proposes to add more scenic road and roger believes that a number of the roads proposed are not scenic and the planning board went through a process going back through the record trying to figure out why the existing scenic roads allan's way water street like  w post road baker street rock hill union street were were designated as scenic roads we couldn't find any record we had volunteered jen thomas who's a student from town and goes to brown who did it g i s project she took the existing road she figured out what the attributes were she applied it to all the other pre one nine hundred fifty roads in town and came up with a list of potential scenic roads from that list the planning board selected the eleven that are on the warrant in the fall when we were contemplating a fall town meeting we had proposed cross street as a scenic road and what the board did was send that explanatory letter and a postcard to everyone who lived on cross street asking them if they were in favor against or didn't know have no opinion about the scenic road twenty two of the twenty five people who lived on cross street supported the designation as a scenic road we followed that process and sent out nearly four hundred letters to all the people that lived on the nominated streets the planning board's position is they will not propose a road for seni pro designation unless the residents support that so we haven't heard back from everybody as to whether or not they want to be a scenic road  ability to work on his on the road lacrosse trait i don't object to and i'm only asking for tabling action on these roads until we get the work done on the project you intend to widen the street you intend to cut nobody's done but others could you live with the spirit of this by law well just just for going the public hearing process but let's take an existing scenic road that so designated and it's pond street and and i'm sure any anybody who has driven down part street knows the pavement sixteen and a half feet wide there to seventeen feet and there are areas where there are walls very close to the right of way and there are times when those walls when up on street on streets and existing respectfully ask you not to vote on this this evening we haven't had our public hearings as always is the case we would take mr hill's input it would be part of the record we would be looking at it it may or may not change our vote but it would be part of it and then it would be appropriate to come back to this board to tell them what recommendations i agree doing the same thing with that calm and until we hear from the citizens it's all  and we're still required to be public hearings before shade trees are cut down we don't do any of that and one of the dialogues we'll be having is we plan to work feels the town just like a developer should be held accountable to the existing rules and regulations it's hard for us as a board to tell a developer they have to follow the letter of the law when when we don't see that happening across the board so we'll be having that discussion and then coming back to this board to give a recommendation great twenty twenty eight has to adopt a complete streets i have real problems with it because it requires us to do plans before we do any work sounds like you two by the expressions on sharon's face should go back into more dialogue and be held on may thirty first two thousand and fourteen from eight a late as after five o'clock today in consideration of the board's interested in having a good sense of what we've done if it pleases chair i'll go through the document and highlight  page one we've just added the phrase the town has determined that the addition of the us splitsville promises will increase the number of details required by the housed at the substation the chief will be completing that exhibit is for exhibits referenced in the agreement one of those is just the equipment and the substation that that documents the substation going to work is to get in the tunnel just do the normal maintenance you know that will put your feet up on the desk you throw away the chewing gum but other than that the other changes that will provide janitorial services and will do all of the maintenance and replacement other than all of the equipment and under the agreement the chief worked out the it just strikes me that you know that's part of the whole operation of the substation and so for the to be responsible for the main of that that's an additional cost that we never had historically so i wanted to need times and i just want to get an idea of what the ongoing costs for this type you know this version of the proposal would be so say you have equipment of some sort that's going to have to abouts as well as equipment that's all by the police department that we transition there if the equipment breaks and can be repaired we repair it as part of our operation because it's a policing we haven't gone back to the craft group and said oh it's not working you have to pay for they have to pay for radio upgrades and we've had problems because it impacts not just the police department but fire service and emergency medical service as well  there's never been a dispute about that taking care of any equipment that is seen as critical to the operation from the point of the statement i do not perceive that this issue would create a grave concern or a significant cost for a community so the maintenance the maintenance for your typical design up there is not a significant cost  as one of the reasons base is far you know keeping the substation open again to the substation stays open as long as the chief thinks there's a need for it but one of the criteria for that  the payment for this is addressing both the policing pitt plan and they police officer because that's the substantial change that you saw today is the manner in which payments for originally it said that policing plan shall be independently enforceable by time and that's eliminated you know if you went with that what did that mean before and you can if you look at the bottom of page three that language that you the police officer will be paid for and i'll give you the context in which this arose we had as cindy and i were trying to find ways to secure the payments to the time you notice and his his side weren't comfortable with that and so we searched for other ways to do it and the clock resolution came up with as of early this morning was that p will now pay on an annual basis far the the estimated cost for the police officer and for the police plan for the community policing plan will prepay that in the month before the year begins that payment because it will occur on december first will be made prior to board may not renu those licenses because of the failure of there being in place a community policing plan that is the method and we think a strong one of  four for the anticipated annual payments there is a provision in the agreement that says i where if if n p p wants to go to an alternate payment schedule that will be monthly quarterly if acceptable to the finance director they can they can do that at that time you would not have the authority to revoke a suspend existing licenses ok and so that he hammer if you will would be lost but what we've provided for is that if they do go to an alternative payment plan acceptable to the also give us a standby vocal letter of credit for those of you that i'm not familiar with that type of the document and what it is it's a it's a promise issued by a highly our bank that says that if there is a default as determined by the board in payment due to it under this either policing plan a police payment in the event they switch to one alternate payment but why would you do that on an annual basis just as you our quarterly business what's the difference with any of the differences first or you have greater of the other authority that i told you about th when you were new licenses in december and since the anticipation is that they will be paying anyway if there's a default you'll have that ability otherwise they'll be required to get a letter of credit for the under default they would bring it back in front of you and i think the thinking was john is that the security of the board's ability to not issue licenses to any of the tenants at patriot place was adequate incentive for them to pay the bill you say that again you know the the ability of your board to not renew any license that patriot place because of the fact that payment hasn't been made we thought was inadequate incentive on one n p p to pay the bill how does that work though because we're not issuing the licenses to know if you look at the agreement on the default clause you have the right to not renew any license comment on this plane please please during the time period when the payments a due to the town if we miscalculate if we've under calculated the amount of money that's to examine there's a true up if you will anticipation is that it because some of the events a seasonal we try to do this on a quarterly basis but because many of the that's a seasonal quarterly can and can just live i guess i have concern that the town is being put in the position of participating in the business arrangement between major place and their tenants by the sentence so i don't see that as the town's role and i'm just trying to understand why this is necessary to be in here because i feel like you know we talked about this earlier that i didn't want language inserting a town in that relationship and i feel that this reference still keeps the town in some way involved in that relationship what actually happens you'll see that we're not really involved in the business we're just helping them allocate their costs the time that's but that's accurate there are two types of i mean today the details are just  lead to the to the venues and they pay the town directly but but given this new model of a given the policing plan model which is a different model it's it's it's not necessarily you know officers allocated directly to venues per se so therefore there will be an that that the craft organization makes on of the other two thousand and seven agreement which we provide supporting documentation that allows them to you know show that it is a true cost of of their business that they can allocate back so we're really not doing anything directly with any of their tenets we're just providing a just providing supporting documentation that they may need from time to time so that we get their cost examples of that would be supporting documentation do you mean like where the detail officers are signed to is that they would need the specifics of that is that i don't know as we haven't we haven't crossed that bridge out about what would be required here one  example would be today like the hundred forty thousand dollars annually there's a you know that that stipulation that's build out to our tenants through a process with the town so added to that would be the cost of the new police officer to you know the all the costs associated with that which are you know we would agree on but it really is the team so the town would assist us in just sort of ensuring to our tenants that that's you know that's where these costs come from we're not just coming up with those costs in the same thing would be for how the chief allocates the community policing program because to randy's point it is not going to be tenant specific it's going to be the center specific so again just to  allow us to you know we have to to segregate billing to the tenants there is a back to back up to that they saw as a disclosure of cost we're not going to be receiving checks for many times you know it's similar to the dog camp charges common area be allocated so it's just just the wording is a little misleading when you read it this way as i read it looks like it's actually getting involved in that actually talking to the tenants about this so i mean one thought would be to say that that the you know the effort that everything use the word to allocate the costs if you look at some seven lines up on page five we grow operate with them in their effort to allocate to pleasing addressed to splitsville line n p p we change that out and simply provided that they would use commercial reasonable efforts to get their tenants to comply the memory in them of agreement and there was some question on this this does not endorse whether or not a has been at parents a compliance default with the existing two thousand and seven member memorandum of agreement to simply says that this agreement  as is unaffected by the terms of that agreement and just separate agreements and i put that in there originally to make sure that the one forty continued that was the genesis of that excuse me he additional police officer i think i've walked through all the this agreement we have certain rights in order to enforce those i've talked to you about your right and this is contained in paragraph six to the volcano suspend any licenses that patriot place you have the right to not act it's the renewable pot refuse to accept applications on any pending applications and because of the timing of the structure of this agreement that will be in december that's when you do act on all renewal applications for those licenses you have the right for injunctive relief if they do go to other than an annual payment w have the letter of credit i've described to you and you also have the right after hearing to revoke a suspend a license held by as we have talked about the fact that everything else in this plant in this agreement stands independently of the policing plan so if there's no policing plan what would they be paying for this is the  back to where we are today in terms of a policing plan which is in existence today which is different from what's being potentially proposed in here so what i'm saying is that  version would be a policing plan of what might be different policing plan but it would still be a policing plan only a vision but that's i guess that's my point though is that these are just these are distinctive things the policing plan at patriot place is section a this is section v this should not be tied into section and because of section and he changes or something happens i do not want section it was to place this within the control of the chief and said that whoever the chief is at the time but place it within the control and so the idea would be that if the chief decided that the policing plan were no longer in effect and only the chief could make that decision then this would be tied into that head and so this is really a placeholder for saying the equivalent of this stays in place until the chief decides otherwise so if you'd like to change this language to say that more directly i'm stay as long as we have patriot place in the town foxboro this put his mission seems to be funded this was part of the negotiation for the license transfer yes so this is independent of the substation independent of the policing plan so the sentence which is new i'm not accepting us if i could make a suggestion here i happen to agree with you probably for two thirds of the way i agree that this is a separate obligation from the policing plan but you're saying that it should stay in place and so long as patriot place is an existence what i'm suggesting is slightly different that it should stay in place until such time as the chief decides otherwise which could very well be you know for so long as patriot place is in existence and the reason i ask for that flexibility is at some point down the road here this is a document that's going to have a long life to it at some point down the road the chief may just decide that we need some chief determines our names necessary no you wouldn't mess why because this is payment but if it appoint the future your chief determines that we don't need this position your language would you know i think to a certain group we're arguing about just pure hypothetical situations what i'm suggesting here is we trust the chiefs judgment and if the chief decides that this particular position is no longer necessary then that's great if the chief decides that some other position is no this payment is meant to be part again of the mitigation and stands independent of that so the i also respect the chief's decision decisions that he makes what i'm saying is that this payment should continue independent of any changes that are made in the page replace police plan we agree that we are that all i'm suggesting here is that i believe you're asking us to change the language so it says this payment stays in place so long as patriot place exists yes and i'm sorry actually the sentence was never in here before well i did a scene lawyer get together no and  sorry for being too legal if but it's difficult to have an obligation that goes on in perpetuity well that would be a good thing a page or place goes on in perpetuity we have no issue here but my issue is that the policing plan could change so i don't want this time to a change in it and on that point we're in complete agreement with this is simply doesn't say that well you're absolutely right on that point it doesn't say what i'm proposing is something slightly different what i'm suggesting is we recognize that you have a policing plan that's separate distinct and then you have an annual officer cos that want to get a separate and distinct beef in one of the earlier drafts the obligation to pay for the officer was an obligation that extended into perpetuity yes and that's generally not something that's good legal drafting and so that's how the sentence came about is ok is there or is there a point in time when the obligation to fund this officer could end and so what i'm proposing is yes there should be and that should be at the point in time when the chief decides that there's no need for this particular funding obligation i think you're with me as far as having an end date but you'd prefer to say it stays in place so long as there is a patriot place plan for pay triple if pater place where we'll go ahead and say if you don't mind we'll we'll take your language so it says yes so i don't know if i have i'm not an attorney so i don't want to make a point here that you do mind i'm trying to make a point i could ask are you do you want to be assured that there will be an additional police officer paid for by n p p process along as the venue that we know as patriot place is in existence the time as the venue which is commonly known i presently known as patriot place is operating with any license to any of that license by the time i think that would be helpful yeah that's what i'm going to think of that just kind of  holographically initially changes if the board approves and so we don't have to come up with another draft and we will wait for it to the obligation to pay the annual office cost as continuing for such time as showing those changes as how it's gone for facts so briefly i'll summarize in the entertainment license the area where the live entertainment will be provided for you is basically space separation the entire premises and she'll be as shown as the previously submitted plans which you had before you and that provision is not changed at all three similarly has not changed the maximum legal occupancy of the premises by code is nine persons splitsville has agreed to restrict the occupancy of the premises to not exceed eight hundred persons unless said capacity as limited by the building code for whatever reason turns out to be less so that has not changed  well number four we talk about the maximum legal occupancy in the live entertainment area and similarly that is by law according to the code five hundred fourteen persons splitsville has agreed and this is not changed to restrict the maximum legal occupancy capacity in this area such that when how what the moon entertainment is performing it shall not exceed four hundred persons unless for some strange reason like in the previous example the code somehow is less in which case it would be drugs no drink menus no menus drink specials or other food and beverage promotions shall refer to how with the moon none of these conditions have changed at all seven is a long one please don't make me read it it has been in several locations basically it says a howl at the moon is permitted on thursday friday and saturday only from eight till closing except private events stadium event days and holiday periods we had quite a bit of discussion over the last clarify if they needed a separate one day license for a private event we did and i put it in writing because i mis spoke i had it correctly in my memorandum and i had a gravelly do anything under not covered by paragraph seven then it wouldn't be under this license so of how it wants to operate in something other than what we've said they can't operate then they need to get  entertainment area under the license without a special permit and yet still limited by the size needs is eyes is limited to non how activities in the entertainment area by the building code unless even one of a matter is open to the public if you have a private event by definition a license is not required so if there were a private event the invitation only event it's not necessary to operate now the reason i asked there was conflicting opinions on this the last time we got together i also think it's worth noting that on those instances where there is a no on how all of that so you don't have the same numbers control as you would us for thinking that was we were limiting what the the amount of dates that were going to be filled by how with the moon are limited to thursday friday saturday and occasionally a private event what this does is they can they can theoretically have entertainment seven days a week they just won't be how with the moon entertainment it can be other entertainment offerings trust just so the board gets that oh i'm totally clear ok because that way that wasn't clear in my mind until dick pointed out last the last time we got to go for a shit but that doesn't mean it's not know it's not without control exactly right the right deal the the real only issue is the four hundred v know how many years ago and what three or four years ago but it's all changed and all that was told me that i don't have our license liquor license regulations in front of me so we have a specific statement that addresses that i don't can ask is it an issue well i don't know for a fact i have to check with this place before it's i mean i talk tables per se are dining tables when there is no entertainment being used in this venue we talk about sitting at the bar that's one thing that is but if there's entertainment you're saying that you're going to have people under twenty one sitting at those kind you know what my understanding from the sports world folks is that they intend to have entertainment such as comedians that would be relatively benign and they'd like to have truly an all ages show type of thing that they would do appropriate crowd in that area or the appropriate people out of that area to resit but it will be done with the recommendation of the police chief the initial manager the wife  is they now both track  a splitsville employee who's hired to work in splitsville your place that was the understanding which i'm assuming i'm sure that would be the case with in the board would have full right to review the qualifications of that manager out just us that every year you will be reviewing an entertainment license and a liquor license with this board well and your feelings you know ten years from now there may be reasons we can sit here all night and try to figure out every possible thing that could happen from here to infinity and beyond and this slice is not only going to kill the end of december and then january one you have a brand new license we're only talking about which by the time th managers on approving that manager for the either a license to be added to that license and and there's i don't see any any way that it's not going to be an splitsville employee of splitsville pitch a place i dissented then w with putting that no language the difficulty jenny is that they would like the flexibility to hire someone from another filleted company so if they if they come across someone who is not currently a splitsville employee and also not  how employee but working for some other venue and dan leaves for whatever reason they would like to hire that person and the language that you're proposing would prevent them from doing so and so they say if they're going to hire someone then it becomes a splitsville employee splitsville is doing the hiring we're trying to not only apply it not only comply with the letter of the law but also comply with the spirit of law so we would if the understanding is we're allowed to hire people from off the street and make them splitsville employees that come to you and say can can this person replace dad as a manager then i think you know if that's the understanding we're probably in great shape and we were trying to be just very forthright with you and  that there would be those times when you know it was stressful doesn't have operations of massachusetts besides this so if dan were to leave you know there's a very good possibility that they would try to hire someone from another venue already existing in massachusetts splitsville would hire that way deemphasizing splitsville well we want to make sure that we keep splitsville as the central operation if the if the point is i don't even know what the point is or to be honest but if you're saying that so long probably delete this paragraph from the entertainment license and just focus on it in the liquor license and then in the liquor license i think you have to name he did manager so day labor center be that person and that i think the point we're hearing is that before we splitsville entertainment license you can have a different manager for a liquor license you can put in that i mean however it's really you know it's really true that in terms of an entertainment license you usually don't license and you don't designate a manage the way it's written that gave us our more authority to make sure it was a blissful employee that's all we did was just took out more authority give it back to them if they want to come in with a howl at the moon manager for the entertainment license so let's leave it the way it is and then we can address it on the liberalized middle must tell you that in my experience with other towns there's not nearly i merely there's a comprehensive and has as complete rules and regulations of others as i've seen here you ought to be complimented for the fine work that you did and putting those together so there's there's a great deal of security in those regulations alone even absent any of the specific conditions here further from the the the the the conditions that were standard among other license holders i took from the hearing process that we had some of the concerns that you had as individuals or as a group for this particular premises and tried to incorporate some of those  in this document and beginning with number five that licensed premises should include dining areas seating areas the bowling lane area lounge and live entertainment or a patio area for consumption of alcohol but not include any storage area stairways entryways or kitchen areas again that's generally standard stuff i think but in this case i think it's helpful to define exactly where it is that you expect to find out where you would not expect to find out all number six is the one we've just talked about at length ironically in the early stages i did have it to the initial manager of the license facility shelby didn't get albertson or other approved splitsville employee i took it out frankly because i wanted to be consistent with the the entertainment license i didn't see that it was material since any manager paused by any license holder is going to be before your board and you're going to be able to examine that person regardless of who they work for so that in fact if there's a qualified candidate you wouldn't want to exclude a qualified candidate just because they're not a splitsville employee but if you make that choice we're now lessening our work or it's thinning the pool of candidates to just splitsville employees so i understand that that's the criteria that you've set and i believe that we've already heard from the applicant that it's ok for those words to go back in there ginny and i talked about this it's at some like their earlier so i expect it will read the initial have again pretty standard stuff the license holder certified compliance with chapter one thirty eight with their provision for liability insurance you're familiar with that there must be a policy covering up any accidents  of the alcohol rules regulations a number ten was the subject of some discussion with individual members and there was again taken from some of the hearing process that we had in the concern venue as i've indicated in number ten that there would not be service of alcohol and contains greater than twenty ounces or in any other alternate form such as jell o shots alcohol creams or food based alcohol products whatever they may be some places may offer a certain you know alcohol laden cake or our other novelty item in order to attract interest that won't be the case here it's the alcohol rules and regulations again that are very specific about the manner in service of our goal here in the town of foxborough and that there will remain conformity with in all respects which up to one thirty eight and with those alcohol rules and regulations and with that but the community policing you guys have to put in place so that is the specific conditions of the of the the license for this premises and it is the four corners of the premises that your license for alcohol purposes not just board since you have had a good deal of experience with other venues of of this sort so with that i think we've all come to some consensus on on those alcohol license provisions question that i have is we don't have a police plan that's being referred to here you know for this settlement agreement and there was some outline put together by the chief there's not been any review or you know work with a concert with a consultant yet and looking at that it looked like the end product was that he would be no police click or establishment the purpose is to have a force of regular policeman that can respond to incidents as they were occurring it hasn't been really talked about but mr earl myself have spent a lot of time taking a look at the dynamics and one of the things sat within to engaged in doing this raising the performance level of employees at the different liquor establishment so that you have people that instead of being bouncers that merely throw people out that sometimes can defuse situations deescalate the tension and the risk of aggression and violence in a very crowded environment so that the police are an adjunct to their efforts and not taking on the primary role as they often are in some of the establishment it's yes every look or status that has entertainment you know needs monitoring and that's why we have will have a team of officers doing that on a consistent basis but i don't perceive if we go to this model we increase the training levels of the personnel at the different a stablish but it's that will have a model that is going to be  effectively with any problems that arise moving target work in progress there's no real wall again as you saw it was staging that initially to see what the reaction is going to be while we're of officers there because we don't know the audience that they'll drop you know having families people going to dinner there and into we get a handle there but eventually if the model is consistent with what other facilities across the country you don't have the model that i've outlined should be sufficient and where i always realize that no matter what mo may some things will work in some things well it's almost like every stadium of that resides a different challenge and we've had to adapt to the situations that you find and i'm sure working with the management patriot place as things change we have out on new businesses entering the mix then we might have to adapt what is proposed in front of you that's policing  with the by law the way it's structured you know you have details in the larger venues right now which was has made a big difference you know for example in talkie it's but they're also anchored because it was i mean a candidate a right to critical way incident but they perceive and rightfully so and that establishment perceives hey i'm paying for your work what do you leave in my place for i am the problem but we want to get away now model so that it's going to be coverage for the entire facility and it's not just on the basis of the bylaws because there are some situations that i deem it's essential to have officers at particular vets now we're going to have officers to cover the facility from the hotel down to the theaters so eventually all of those positions would be incorporated into this model because in the draft that i saw i don't see anything reference to the hotel detail that's in existence right now in iraq we're going to have to visit with the hotel and also showcase life right and i have talked about that because it's not so much an issue of alcohol management but on other security concerns that those facilities have and where a process of working through that in effect it has a ring once it has its plan the rules and regulations my office is the final determine have the authority so and it should stay that way for my successors as well ok about every six months and they're pretty well attended residents come in get to ask questions about their family and they also help them with filing documents and things like that  language to fourteen calendar day after the manager's decision that was the change it was that time frame i think was a little longer it was thirty days it was change of fourteen library was not being closed in conjunction with severe weather so we put language in to allow for it to close when the governor declared a state of emergency in the compensatory time off it starts off by saying that you know members will be compensated at time and a half or the regular hourly rate but then it's as in the outs in the alternative they can receive and use compensatory time o implementing the plan is still to be done between the chief myself randy on the financial side but the framework chief correct me if i'm wrong it's been agreed to between he and myself on the roll o developed without the input from the consultant i mean i understand that you can come up with a proposal but i thought the whole point of having the consultant was to you know work with the chief to come up with what the actual plan will be  the i think the consultant again not speak for the chief but i think it will help to define some of the the detail within the plan but that the framework which is what we were asked at the two weeks ago to complete is not the police plan but what i but i have to be honest and i have a concern just from the standpoint when i read you know i was reading this as a proposal and i thought gee that would be interesting to get to then use that have no police officers present but it's really hard for me to swallow the thought that a venue with thirteen hundred people in our town would not have a police officer inside that venue just projecting the president's get to that point i mean is that really how like them you know yes that is what they did in several of the cities and looking out right that they didn't have the fact they don't put their police officers inside the facilities at all announcers where you want to call them they are regulated in some way and i believe through the licensing process in new york city they have to have civic level of training the same thing  town of providence what i want to be able to do is to provide that type of training i haven't gotten to the point that i'm ready to come back to the board and revise our letter regulations  along with the responsible beverage service you also have if you are going to use any type of security they have to have x y z training it is something if it works on patriot place that i might use a broader approach to hit places that we have whether it's the green valley steakhouse america's best value in a larger facilities like chaiken joe that draw a similar crowd to some of the establishments the patriot place obviously you want me to address more of those things and to get that component done and some other specific times so that the board has a better understanding so with this framework then you know there were there are certain dates attached to it that those examples of levels of staffing would be in those different locations right would you anticipate that the training in order to bring that level of confidence that that expertise the expertise so these as we transition but taking some of the people and putting them on a more general patrol status to respond to more than just individual bar needs i if i had i was going to jump for war into this i could have said ok do away with anybody in any establishments but we're not ready to go there because we want to bring up the training of or the training capacity of the people who are current all police officers out of every venue all by that time in july hopefully we will have done and heard from a consultant although i don't much like to wait till july are you until we can see the impact of splitsville because i don't know i don't perceive that it will be overly burdensome to you know the safety certainly of the overall site but it would be good to have that person seen that operation as opposed to seeing the construction workers say we have splits will be here so there's no issue with this agreement for this timetable to be delayed for example in dates according to the circumstances i don't perceive that you know the partners have any problem with that you know she doesn't understand the framework you know is that going to be the most final document in the rest is going to evolve well some of it's going to involve jod as we move through a transition from using one location centric assignment of details to a general team approach to cover all the establishment but it all these documents we reference the policing plan right and where we are i guess we're struggling to say we have a framework for a policing plan and we have a going to have a document that is in fact the policing plan know i here's what expectations are here are some suggestions on how to patrol the different areas so if you're saying that that's a plan yes because we'll have to change the dynamic that even the officers are used to into something that's going to be much more specific as to what they'd be accomplishing that's not to ignore toby keith keith it closing time for barlow we currently you know we put the wagon in a location we put another officer in a location because we know that closing times are more challenging but it will be it will be the plan will be you working off the frame and yes is everything running the you can see i have to submit something so i can flush out what the key points what's going to happen and it was specific sets make sure we have the ultimate flexibility for you to be able to develop this plan so is it on or about you know if so make sure the language allows you the flexibility i perceive i have to flexibility i don't i when i read that because i see like date assigned to certain levels of staffing and you know what if they can say you know what if the timing for your consultant coming in going to lie maybe you decide geez i need another month for him to really have to adapt but i'd like to start getting my personnel right used to the changes and that's why i have specific timetable set i'm trying to work these things through also knowing that the reference to two way which is where you're concerned about to say the current framework language primitives changes to the framework can't say something like th attached to a common victuals license in that the board approves the settlement agreement in the form attached to it to provide it however exhibit one be in to see reference there in shall be subject to this board's approval midnight pony rides carnival games food drive on five twenty four fourteen and again this is submitted by mark a fizzer and thanks marco for taken charge of this again to really appreciate it second thanks my gosh and that's  study for being in a bus service and patriot place to mansfield commuter rail stop via downtown foxworth this is requested by the planning board and basically what they're trying to do is it was asking us to do is just simply accept the grant