what we have here is the bank robbery happened in on the side of las vegas and there was conflicting reports coming out now just prior to the council when i was thinking about this i was thinking suppose there was an eviden what we'd hear is that there are all sorts of conflicting reports and he had kind of a week had but on the other hand you have this vehicle leaving the scene of a bank complicit in stores they didn't know was conflicting stories but more importantly they had almost no information whatsoever they had and many have one thing even if you take the conflicts we know that we had some black individuals african american indivi involved in the robbery correct script we know that there's many going on right zack hall over the meaning and we don't know and we know when the robbery happened that's that's for certain that there that there was a robbery and we know the location and the relative it's relatively short after now i mean what you are agreeing to what i'm just saying we know all those things then the things that are conflicts in you know the colors of the shirts the colors of the vans you know all of those things that you know having those two components close to the robbery at a time shortly after the robbery why can't the police just  and you know identified the people but and that's what they were you know that's what happened and then later right when they identify and there's other people in the car and so it turns into it they're lying down in the van right so it turns into something else could be relevant if the description say if the description wore asian people or their scripture more cock asian people and it's an african american driving a van well then that puts it in a different category but the description of the robbers were that they were african  was never defined as white black or any other color so now we're already automatically stopping every black person even though there's been no description of the actual driver of the vehicle is black could they have had a road block like they do for muscular dystrophy you know where the fireman blocked the road and pulled out the boot you have to put a dollar in you know you're out because they have them out and no i don't i'm with all the traffic that's going away from the bank i don't believe scream courts colas that wants you are looking for a crime you can't put up a roadblock like that the other problem i have with the vehicle description is this there is no make perhaps i think of the many bands of perhaps one of the most ubiquitous cars we have in our society i can name off the top of my head at least twelve different makers of minivans now so are we saying that every minivan on the road we don't have a year we don't have a mate they can stop because there's several colors here your honor and so what we're saying it was a dark color unspecified model mini van driving down eastern and so we have a black person and that describes an awful lot of the rules and i don't believe that that is particular enough nor individual i see enough to support reasonable suspicion to stop every vehicle that that matches that description and i think that's the problem here and you know part of that i think it's difficult  to review this because there wasn't any evidence you're hearing because there are all of these other facts that might have been brought up and i think one hundred problems is that perhaps the magistrate took some judicial notice of some of the things because he lives  which the district court judge probably couldn't because he doesn't he's from leno so that's one of the problems we have here we have all of these other factual components that go into this that were never presented but i still think that without a maid or a model they don't had bank robberies and you have that kind of budget it's not like just a general roadblock where they're looking for any kind of crime which is unconstitutional and it's pretty specific and based officer stopped and i don't know where they end up getting this name says ok this is going to be a dark blue minivan but we're still going to check so based on he's just been told as a female driver into a different color and he reasonable suspicion you first look at the specific facts known at that time and then having looked at the specific factual look at the reasonable inference that can be drawn from them and then fatality in the circumstances was a reasonable stop what the and the court has already noted the time it was stopped within minutes the proximity is within three miles of the bank robbery now only the direction was known northbound but also the street very street eastern the fact that you know what questions from the court time it's not it's not your husband's fall for calling your fault for not turning off yourself you are correct and i should have play my husband i apologize and i feel cause it's the court i thought i'd done so