well hell lower we won and we're so glad that you could join us here on another edition of the award winning time out for sports talk i remembered at this time here at the belmont media center where we continue to be belmont's first and only live all sports talk show i am todd lonely hours it is a wednesday may the sixteenth two thousand and eighteen we're going to be here live for the next sixty minutes if you've been watching us for years you know the drill by now we take your phone calls if you want to call we're live on may sixteenth you want you didn't expect exactly the case what we certainly we expected you here how and i'm glad it is you we also expected to day fluid your man in the third chair this month always good to see you good to be back belmont i'm back by popular get here in time for a for the live show yeah definitely lots of celtics they were to get into it first though a quick bit of housekeeping we didn't have a show in march because i made the mistake of prematurely canceling that show before you know because every time we got to be a snow storm in art like any other superintendent yeah massachusetts yeah well every ball every time a big snowstorm came in the month of march we you know it came to fruition they forecasted it correctly it was a big storm so with it looking bad for our march show the night we were going to do that show and said ok we'll cancel and then it turned out the storm never came right out as luck would have it murphy's law courts you go there you go and then last month we did not schedule a show because i do a little bit of side work and one of my little side jobs involves a college baseball public address announcing that both at tops and you've asked boston that finished up their seasons and they actually wrapped up with the little east conference that's you asked boston's conference they hosted their turn when they won the regular season title the host of the conference tournament and the one that and that they aren't with that an automatic birth to be and see a division three college world series the regional star down on the cape this week in harwich are you doing the games i am not doing those games now because i  knew the producer of the webcast so and so is able to acknowledge baseball gods were smiling down on you know but they were smiling on the mass boston beacon's congratulations number five ranked team in the country at one point in the year earlier in the season they were number one that's nationally amongst all division three schools very impressive their thirty three and eight no wonder two asians going up when it's going up there well the last three years they have up they've had a home ballpark finally and that's when i jumped on board you know because i was already doing hockey p a work there and i told them i did baseball as well so when they got the home park i said would you like me to pee in your baseball games and they brought me in and so yes so it's great and the conference tournament is great when they get to host it because it means more home boy lo and behold you know that the celtics eastern conference finals this is just an unbelievable story i mean this you know as i said they are the two thousand eight hundred celtics the two thousand and one patriots a team that you just did not see you know they came out of nowhere and in fact you know there could be some common bonds here i guess my first question would be who is the tom brady of the boston celtics and i think it's got to be i mean let's go to the picture here it's got to be this guy right terry he actually was part of the press conference and it's the only time in his career although it seems kind of fitting you bledsoe wearing a boston number twelve jersey yeah that must have been a little idea about the of eleven in dallas who played for them a walkie box as drew bledsoe and so they actually drew bledsoe kind of got a kick out of it i'm surprised he wanted to come all the way to boston and there you see if he was up at the podium briefly after the i think it was at the end of begin rosier has had some incredible the areas he's had some incredible loss games particularly the home playoff games at the garden where the celtics have been nine a no this postseason by the way longest winning streak for the celtics  home in the playoffs the last time they had a streak this one was two thousand and eight well we all know what happened that you know i mean you look at some of these other guys too i mean a guy that everyone thinks is doing really does nothing anything that horrific i mean the guy is just  two best teams are boston and sparse team play boston and golden state and you can see with houston in game one and cleveland these first two games those two they don't play team play at all it's you do your thing you do your thing i do my thing you do your thing and then if it works it works and if it doesn't then you know with them a superstar rules it right you know everyone else just sits around you know last night's boxcar was spectacular cleveland had sort of their fifteen minutes now obviously we only have an hour show so we're we're not going to give them the minutes but i do i'll tell tail on both your guys points and we'll will you know you know obviously horford you know you gotta love the way you know well first of all you know you're right i mean the ball movement is great i mean eight team was they didn't the ball around great and this team is doing the same thing horford i love the way this guy steps up in the postseason he did it last year i mean because of the way they got swept out by cleveland it was sort of forgotten but he had a huge postseason last year and he's doing it again this y stepping up his game to another level and as for marcus morris i will say this when they first made that trade i mean every bradley was kind of one of my favorite out six and when i first heard about the trade i really didn't know much about marcus morris we have another picture morris by the way but  typical games i think for him i only had i think seven or eight eleven points but in thirty minutes he also had nine assists five rebounds and four steals and i guess now the big thing in the n b a wasn't as big back i think in the day the plus minus rating out there was always a big hot thing now it's a big basketball thing and they measure guys by it plus twenty one for marcus smart night in last night and he stood up when hoffa gets shoved from behind he was the first one over that we have a i think this is the picture that let's go to that picture of the i think this was when this was going on the smart inroads we're getting involved j r smith who has been a self a killer in the past but he was over seven last night from and he'll have been a terrible night and we're going to go to the phones a week at a phone call all right here on time now for sports i don't know who this is so we're going to take this blindly hello welcome a time out for sports is to listen our unknown caller yeah i don't know actually i think i have a guess who this is based on the idea on the phone tradition of how you for all the years he did it and you were well you're you were the game last night so what were your thoughts on the celtics performance well i heard i heard your analogy of the two thousand and one patriots of the show but i have a different analogy which might rub people the wrong way but some think straight now they are the two thousand and eighteen philadelphia eagles that's what they're really reminding me of right now the team two perennial all stars go ahead rob it would be any and you never know what do any age is going to do in a season so but they're just they're one of the hardest playing teams i've ever seen i mean you know i thought the celtics team back in two thousand and eight they were you know they were gutsy team obviously they had a lot of star power but the self esteem probably is well one of the one of my favorite teams of all time in the city the way that the of sort of rally together in the face of adversity and they're they just they they don't back down they come out and play hard every night and it's been it's been a treat watching them over the last month and a half you know and when the playoffs started i was telling everyone i was like good assumption the playoffs whatever the bruins are going to get to the stanley cup and now to just the roles are completely reversed from where i thought it was going to go you know you know it's amazing what i've been thinkin telling people that what makes this team even scarier is that they lose scary they're going they're going to be very scary i think will be a team that could challenge better the golden state next year and i think they can maybe give them a little scare this year if they get if they get that far but it's going to be interesting to see that's going to be a valid as all these kids get used to playing a lot of minutes now and they're going to have to give up a lot of minutes next year too so you know it's going to be interesting to watch but i'm just back and enjoying the ride and as long as i can have something to keep me from watching the red sox and the kind i'm a happy man so that rant later in the hour but we're going to stay on the celtics right now because it's all happened time i got to let's throw that picture back up again i want to ask a question about the about the two guys missing here heyward kyrie course the guy on the right kyra you're going into the series i honestly thought if any of the two teams that were playing in the eastern conference finals this year i thought the celtics might miss kyrie irving more than the cavs but i think based on the first two games i would argue i think le bron might even make the argument not publicly but that i think it's the cavs that are probably missing tyree a lot more than the series the so far the celtics are well i think if you look at the ad you know that the cavs were expecting to have isaiah thomas is a person to play the carrier of a role and to be that other score and if you look at all the teams where the le bron james has been on that they've been successful he's always had at least one or two guys that have been able to pick up the slack the slack dwayne wade ray allen kyrie irving you know i mean one thing about about le bron is is he can have big games but you know he's he's can be inconsistent and he needs someone to sort of pick up the slack and be able to feed off of him there's really no one on this current cavs team that can pick up the four i mean kevin love to a point but he's been somewhat of a disappointment through his career with the cavs but they just don't really have that consistent  guy now that irving is gone even if you watch games last year the year before you know nights where le bron was having a bad night carrier and would step up and he'd be the one that would score forty points so there's really no one to offset that and if you watch a successful teams in the a to be able to win a championship you need to have two or three guys that can throw daggers and the caps have one guy that can throw daggers and a bunch of older washed up players that really aren't producing much anymore i mean how about the last night all he did was put up his fourth career triple double in the playoffs that involved a forty point game i mean scores forty two point when rebounds twelve assists i mean that ought to be enough most nights and despite his efforts despite those numbers if he still was like double digit i mean that's i mean that just goes to show you that you know yeah you need support i mean you can't do it alone i mean you know you go back thirty years how we were talking about this before the show michael jordan that that incredible sixty three point game yes the you know the original big three the celtics you know and you know that got a double overtime but they still need to win the game and ultimately got swept out of the series so many times we said let's let le bron score a sporting to stop everybody else you know if you looked at it while the game was going on i was watching the box score and like we talked earlier i said earlier about like two assists or less they all had two  know love and le bron james had rebounds interest and thompson had some rebounds but they had the rest of the seventy guys where no assists or one assist wanted to rebounds non not even taking shots forget that they didn't score because they didn't score they didn't even take shots what's his name the point guard kim member's name he scored for no what i did he scored three points he took four shots he's a starting championship games for a few years now those going to be it's going to start to catch up you know those along seasons you know and eventually you know it'll catch up to you and i think the fact that they may i think the old be i think that the long seasons see i think that they made all these moves before the trade deadline which looked good then but i think it's shown it's two colors now because those guys they got and now in situations like that never been in before you know whereas if they still wade rose you know guys that have been the area you know right now maybe they'd be better off with those guys but i just think it's one of the building just fast break fast break just pyro and this series is done lost like you know well and you know to your earlier point how you're talking about well you know you have a lot of those cavalier players who hadn't you know haven't been in the situation before well you know with the exception of last year that a lot of these younger celtics haven't been situation either but the x factor in the difference is the guy on the bench who's coaching these kids and putting them in the right you know we use the same lines they know about bill belichick putting them in the right position to win about the end of game three in philly their only road win by the way th which was a was a big one and it'll take something it may take another great call or you know gain you know axing you knowing from stevens to come up with a plan to win a game in cleveland we're talking about a lot of first round draft choices oh yeah that made the talent level a lot higher than a lot of these guys in cleveland got in return for you know the trades that they made the guys they picked up a rosier sixteenth overall pick smart sixth overall pick jim brown third jason tatum third and the like the last four years and a lot of those guys are playing and then that's a smart kid too he needs he took like he went to all his classes and now we have a picture jaylen brown here we have a few actually but you know what he's been able to do in the fall i mean twenty three points in each of the first two games against the cavaliers and what he's done the  was supposed to take a couple of weeks to recover and you know he bounced right back i guess that's you know you can thank you youth for that right that is but you know yeah but these it is just you're right it's just and it's just been so fun watching you know  the kids develop and you know and you know you've got a coach like stevens there to really kind of bring out the best in them too but i mean obviously they've got to have the skills to be able to do it but the as you said howie they're all high draft they're all first round picks by the way i mean danny ainge last years you year though the one that they could have been the lakers of the lakers last night of a lot of you'd fall into either two or three or i moved up to two or three instead they were ten so phillies going to maintain that pick so now right as it stands now the next year the celtics will get the better of sacramento or phillies first round pick next year plus their own right plus there on the philly took will probably be low because obviously the phillies did issue and they're only going to probably get better next year due to still sacramento does have the third or no they have a second pick coming up this year so depending who they pick up with that player that might help them get better it may not necessarily be a lottery pick next year but it's the sacramento kings so i'm still holding out hope that they can you know go botho and for the record the pick that the celtics traded to cleveland the former  last of the brooklyn picks that they trade to cleveland in the kyrie deal is going to end up being the eighth overall pick this year for the cavaliers which may not be enough to get them a player that le bron's going to stick around to you know extend its career with so they yeah but it was ok if used and gets in my expectations are going to be i don't think i mean i was only one but here's the thing golden state is playing the more the team concept and you know houston all the sun it's become the james harden show and they're not going to win that way they're not going to be golden state playing like that so frankly i'd be shocked you know especially now that hurries back i know he had been injured you know towards the second half you know most of the second half the season didn't play much but they've got everyone back healthy now i mean gold state healthy goals eighteen i don't see how they don't get past him and i know i know houston has a better record in the regular season with that which is because of those on the rockers are going to get past the eighty six lakers either no no no no no that was a good houston team who had the lakers that they can you know compete oh absolutely yeah you know i mean this it's amazing that the what they're doing at this stage like i honestly thought cleveland i know cleveland going in had some weaknesses but i wasn't expecting two dominant performances of a two nothing lead at this point i thought you know especially you this experience i mean it's almost a blessing in disguise with those guys being hurt because it has given you know browning tatum a chance to just really step up and kind of grab hold of the team and rozier me and you know to some level smart do and yes there minutes are all going to get press down a little bit but it's a fun problem to have looking ahead to next year's team you wanna hear something crazy i heard this on the radio this morning i guess like gorman was on the celtics a play by play guy for the sports boston great one of the one of the best that we have i mean we know we are so blessed in this area with great play by play guy he's right up there with the best of them he had heard something from someone who suggested this trade as an attempt to get into the davis hayward kyrie the sacramento pick next year for davis would you do would you do it you know i don't and you know i mean obviously you know whoever suggested that it's based on the fact that this team right now is playing so well and are doing it without these two all star caliber players i mean heck i hope they can sit back and next year well you know the hayward will be interesting because heyward and tatum play the same position so really the guy who's going to be impacted the most next year is going to be jason tatum because you know jane when brown was playing court so i don't know if his minutes are going to get affected why this much it's going to take them going to take the biggest hit in terms of minutes next year and i don't know how they're going to make that work they want to play a smaller lineup try heyward before i mean we'll be talking about all the stuff when we do our preview for next season for sure but you know like i say it's a fun problem you know definitely a fun problem to have you know with these guys yeah and i'm not so sure i would do that either because you know what i mean you know the thing we have to remember is jason tatum is still twenty years old chance that they may take a step back in their development i mean just because they're playing at the saloon level right now i mean you know you can't i mean there aren't that many twenty twenty one year olds in the n b a that are playing at this kind of level right but what makes brad stevens awesome is that he sets a foundation for everything to get done you watch players come up on all of the teams except for maybe san antonio and they put the players out there and they say go play go play go play he set foundation he's got an off ounce and it's always a throw to the open guy and if you're open shoot it it's not you know star player holds the ball holds of all seasons he can do second best player gets the ball the second most amount of times see what he can do post up a big run of pick and roll with the same guys everything they run to everybody for everything at different times and so it's difficult to guard so he if we notice that with all these young guys that we've seen specifically jaylen brown tatum rozier and smart they've all gotten better at everything that they've ever done as they've gone along none of them have ever taken a step back and they all play defense and they were right when you play defense and rebound or i mean they're ok rebounding team but they work hard at rebounding is what i mean and that was weakness from last year exactly they were horrible now they're just like average which is he's another like him and morris they've got a couple big bodies in there that don't mind going into the you know the trenches to fight for those rebounds which you know that that's an area they were lacking in last year and if they don't now they're respectable i mean they're not going to you know you know it's not like dave got the next coming of dennis rodman on their team but hey they did they rebound enough to stay close to to their opponents in that area and you know just how about last night i had a number of office of rebound blasters he wouldn't have done that they would've gotten zero yeah they did got zero and they traded down so i'd like to compare him and he'll because they came to the celtics under similar circumstances and they do one of the things tatum does is the way he kind of slices wade the basket with those long arms you know he year is any indication i mean that's a no brainer i was a paul pierce guy like i wanted him to get drafted and then they did i was the happiest person in the world of public thirty five me at the time i mean when or when pierce slipped down the ten yeah i was like the happiest guy in the anthony davis before and that crazy trade suggestion how about this i know you know throughout the year it's been well it's going to probably take either jaylen brown or jason tatum or both to get anthony davis and if you davis is an immense talent don't get me wrong but let me just ask you this and we do have a picture of anthony davis if i can keep it up here no that's not it hang on we'll get there and right hoops there it is ok so there's davis to my question is this haven't seen ta eable as well but that would be that would be the guy i'd go to because you know brown he's an you know there's a lot of there's a lot of injury problems that come if you bring davis into town on i mean you take joelle and be from the seventy six ers and then add someone that can shoot the ball and that's what you're that's what you're getting with a guy like davis he can run the floor you can shoot the deep ball and he's unstoppable inside so  that's what it would take i would do something like that and then roll the dice there but with the team they have right now you have a chance of still being dominant for another ten years at least maybe even more so you know it's a very  fine line in my mind but that's what i that's what i would consider for the tree ok we want to you consider trading either one of them i know what you're looking at it will possible i'm going to i'm going to say no because these guys fit into the team concept we i would definitely protected them and i think i wouldn't trade brown i don't i think we're having said this it's not a good question because in the n b a if the mets salary is so the only way i printed th sheet out the only way we could get davis would be to trade horford or haywood or a combination of kyrie and either tatum or morris and do the pelicans want to do that yeah i mean yeah the way the right the right running but that was a pretty tragic injury i mean i still have a whole year he's going to it's going to be about a year almost before he steps back on the floor competitively and i think you know they said that the injury wasn't complex i mean they know yeah you know i'm trying to do the math here yeah we're not it's i mean it's a question we can talk about no i don't mean it's the but and this is you can do it doesn't you do it we're having an intelligent discussion about this it amazes me that those spin them out to something else so yeah that's the only so they get like six or eight number ones for davis which they may want to do i don't know but realistically that is the only trade that the south is still too much want to see in the club backflow davis i think it's after the season's over he's got two more years or guaranteed and then there's a player option which he get out eyes or not well depending where they see switzerland right yeah well they won't did well they got they got cousins still don't they are cousins a free agent i don't know what it was twenty years ago or sit at a bar or look at it what i wouldn't do what about we know whatever but the way the structure of the n b a is it's it would have to be kyrie and one of the the brown or tatum and probably the sacramento number one pick  only have three max contracts on a team no we es but if you're if you're there already on your team you can do whatever the hell you want to do you just pay a luxury tax on no no but i think with tim brown there on a rookie deal i don't know you can just bump them up to max money the if you need like i thought you needed like a dates that i didn't know of no it's honestly if you get i mean if you gave me five or six minutes i could explain to it which you don't know what it's like oh my god what if you sit there and go oh it's only these four things i get it it's really it's not it's not hard and you just have to be exposed to it and somebody showed explain it to me it's like once they're under your kit like i was impressed going to say i was impressed with the whole twenty percent thing and figured out why the great brown for davis straight up and you know so coldness is say is deciding you know they're coming up because clay thompson has one more year so now he's going to be a max guy but so if they sign you know if they keep their  rotation over there so anyway yeah i mean this is just so used to say i mean this i mean i can't believe we're talking possibly a finals match up with the with golden state this is still kind of like their flaws but oh one of the guys i was going to ask you about marcus smart back to him for a minute i know there's a lot of talk you know with their with their contract situations we mentioned rosier a little bit and then marcus smart is a restricted free agent i guess this coming year so other teams can make him offers but the celtics can match yes you know and  i keep hearing a lot of discussion well down the road you're probably going to be able to keep either smart or was you're probably not keeping them both who you think the better fit for this team i don't you might be smart just because you know he's a stronger i know he's not as strong an office of players rozier is but why would he expect to get office of money i mean if he does and then shame on him because that's i mean that's just silly to think so well it's going to be it's how she can be simplistic he's going to go out and get an offer an angel on twenty years if you want but there's nobody anyways there's not a lot of teams that can offer him money there's there's the first thing that could offer money who has the most cap space is the lakers they have sixty million dollars that they can offer however they want to sign two max guys yeah and would he really i mean you also think about not only teams that can afford him but who also would be interested in bringing would be a team that's already like kind of almost if they are right that s o level and he would be like that last piece is a defensive specialist kind of guy there's no team like that that can do it well like they like all in the last two years everybody spent their money so nobody can do that however there could be there's like a shake chicago and well the lakers can do up the lakers won't chicago can do it and either atlanta or orlando can do it and even if they do it it's still like you know what are they going to offer him you're not going on from thirty you're not going to from twenty five and who's going to so the big money so it's going to be some team that might offer him he get offered somewhere between ten and thirteen for four years ten to thirteen a year yeah four years yeah ok and right now he's you know this year he's making four and a half will make six next year or if you're the celtics is it worth giving him ten to thirteen is not reasonable what you're paying  sell the team like that's not you know i don't like you you if you own an n b a franchise team and you don't pay a luxury tax in your town the fan base i don't care about winning you're also telling the n h stop drafting such exactly almost every shot he takes is wide open because brad brad stevens has a great off fans and everyone and he just preaches throw to the open guy and you know it's going to come back to you in some point in europe and if you're up and shoot it and and that's what smart does if he goes to play for the knicks or minnesota or wherever he's not going to get open shots because the n b a plays jimmy butler gets you know he takes his little what it was right and so or you do or you do one pick and rolls with a big guy so what mark and i do sit there do nothing this sounds familiar i feel like you know we just you know we're playing sports mad libs and we took the one we were using all during the of the football season for the patriots we just plugged in the word celtics  it goes back to what i said the first time it's brad stevens has a foundation of what he does he teaches the players how to be better players he runs the system he runs the is a foundation they have like fifteen players not fifteen players but i'm you guys have seen the movie a semi pro with will ferrell at the when when when when they did that they ran for like three hours with no ball remember they go we're doing a thing and they they ran the plate with the ball you can do that with brad stevens like you can do that because it's just your open you cut over here when you can over here you come back over there and then you throw in which ever is open you throw it to no other offices like that it's the only office like that in the a and that's why when you watch the next game watch how many times cleveland takes contested shots and how many times the celtics do like le bron james all his shots in the first quarter which he was awesome on a great a great player and now he's going to go one on one because they're the way they run their office it's also got oriented off and he's like the fourth guard it's like why would you pay a guy eighteen million dollars to be a forty guard to all stars at  guard and they signed to another guy for eighteen million dollars why would you do that you know why they did it because they had the money and they said we want him and he looked good playing in boston in the future was a b of course months he was there he sucked and he sucked ever since the fans  he and like he's just a pretty good why you know i'm just doing my thing and he can't do it because he's not i don't know i can't blame him because when they want to and i want to get him right well another example you could say i mean hip injury aside i think a thomas i mean maybe maybe the hip injury kind of weighs a little bit more on that one but still you know his hip was supposedly better when he got the lakers and you know and i was the he was kind of better you know when i guess he didn't mesh with le bron or whatever little every think about it every time you cannot double team any celtic because the way the offices run you can't do it because if you do it then at worst it's going to be a wide open three by smart that's the worst that you can hope for because morse you know anyway he's our worst shooting and if he's open he'll shoot it and who hit it you know twenty percent twenty percent time whatever like that's the worst that's a worst case scenario if so you so if you and if something gets for manic or if you double team somebody taking a wide open shot it doesn't matter who you know and you can't say that about most of the teams in the n b a and most of the teams don't have anyone that wants to you know thirty seconds grants here i want to get off to the red sox carson smith total waste product here i'm sorry this guy i mean he gets mad because he gives up a home run last that he's already had gone through a bunch of injuries since the red sox  him the other night he gives up a home run gets mad in the dugout throws is glove down and separates a shoulder and then you know does it blames everybody but himself for being on the disabled list and nobody knows when he's coming back what a total waste and yeah i mean as far as i'm concerned you know he could just i don't care if he ever comes back the red sox bullpen outside of craig kimbrel is like huge mass and i don't think he's going to help him at any point again unreliable that that's just not pathetic stuff how does how does how that's the game he's playing you know it's a case you know this is actually i don't look up this graphic like i had no idea what four you know then i mean that that's the fortnight game and those are apparently the heroes so there you go that's price there with the sword yeah i'm not going to yeah see he's got allergies got out there just can you believe that i've got allergies my whole life i'm sorry i mean yeah i know i'm not a major league pitcher but geez it's like take some claritin suck it up i mean please i mean you're going to use that as an excuse my hands are cold  pillow he said it only gets cold against the yankees or if he's in the playoffs like oh you know but other than that i mean the red sox are actually playing well if we had more time we talk about the good things but you know hey forget it cares what we did we talk about the good things the subject yeah we talked about the good things in the sense exactly right guys this is always been fun and i know we can keep going on the celtics but unfortunately we're out of time and you are back again as we mentioned earlier we're back on june the thirteenth which i believe might be the day after i think if the finals go seven games it might be the day after game seven i think i really i don't have the final schedule but i have some reason think when the last one game one is may thirty first i think june twelfth could be a potential like if they i think they go thursday sunday tuesday i think i don't know that they'd see the change every