being just after seven o'clock i would like to open the school committee of fox bros regular meeting of feb twenty five twenty thirteen the agenda tonight is as follows visitors approval of minutes teaching and learning highlights seventh grade exchange city acceptance of donations revision of the twenty thirteen twenty fourteen school calendar update a strategic plan and superintendents and three three key strategies superintendent evaluation mid cycle review second reading of policies statement of interest from our all elementary school other matters then by roll call vote we will go into executive session for the purpose of discussing negotiating strategies with the union person now foxborough education association and professionals the committee will not return to open session after that do we have many visitors this evening teaching and learning highlights seventh grade exchange city mrs allison mello and dear friend school students i'll just give you a quick review as the school committee knows we've been running this the last several years exchange  as they do this is one of my favorite things to go in watch the suits participate in i have gone every year it is quite exciting and for the students who are here and i notice you have parents who are supporting you were just wonderful  we start every school committee meeting the last almost two years with the teaching to highlight something fabulous that students are experiencing or their engineers are you trying out is that innovation or something exciting that students who are teachers are doing with it they're doing together and that was an idea the committee had been disregarded was chair and i actually think this is one of the best things we do because this tends to be for your students or with a business kind of meeting but it really is a business meeting to make sure that we're running a school system is great for you kids so it from the kids perspective so just as a quick overview of the curriculum really involves the kids becoming familiar with citizenship buying into literacy and government through their experiences students create budgets and business plans they balance a checkbook and write checks use economic theories to run their businesses including producing marketing and selling goods they write many resumes and apply for and actually interview for jobs they effectively manage their time their tasks and most importantly each other because they have to work together in their business teams they run a government by themselves they as citizens pay taxes the actions and write their own laws by which they must buy and they also come up with the consequences when those laws are not respected and through the experience they explore careers and experience real life simulation so we're going to start at the beginning so after the students have had the instruction on the sort of the social studies curriculum pieces of it we get into getting ready for the actual jobs i'm not sure i now and there were probably in the city three different periods of the mayor term soon to speak the first parts i thought this was perhaps the most exciting part and what that is basically the election process now i was the only one who was excited but i felt that every other student was excited for this part of the candidates have to do is they had to write up  had to make a campaign poster in on that campaign poster you can design any way you like it but you have to have your slogan so on the slogan it could be  mine was you deserve the best most honest fair mayor so why not vote for dominic amigo so i put that on my poster unfortunately on my poster is did it really make it through that process but one of one of the most important parts of the election process that we saw the most important was you had to hire a campaign manager so what i learned from this is that you should always pick a campaign manager he's friendly knows a lot of people and is excited about what they do because believe me it helps future politicians and later that day after we give our speeches what we do is we vote we both for who you think should be mayor and who you think we should be judge obviously the day in exchange city that day well you had i realize that you had to have a strategy because if you're the head of one hundred kids it's going to be pretty stressful my strategy was this i basically agree and exchange city as if it were a company i thought of each business as if it was a different sector of the company in that the company put in the drive if one of the businesses didn't work as hard so i felt that that really how the city i made sure that i checked in on every single business owner and every business to make sure that our company was working as fast as they possibly could i had to give two speeches throughout the day i got to work collaborate with the judge and or the pass laws to set those fine amounts so i made sure that those fine amounts set so that people wouldn't go off and commit too many crimes  unfortunately we still guard roughly one hundred dollars in fines if not more city hall one other thing i noticed throughout city hall is that we represent the citizens best interests and that we in example because for example the city hall isn't isn't working the citizens are going to be workers if that if city hall is working for the success we i feel that the business is going to be working pretty successfully i felt this experience overall really did help me in the water for the first way is i've wanted to be in government for a couple years now and i realized through this experience that it could possibly be the right path for me living out of it and i want to exchange city i was lucky enough to get the job of managing editor at the newspaper to do this job correctly i need to be a lot of things i need to be hardworking creative and as with any job i needed to work well with other people hard working was an important trait because i had to produce and distribute the newspaper that's like a lot of work making sure everyone was working on a story and that we were covering all the important events and staying organized took hard work because there were so many people whose checks in order to keep track and i didn't have someone's check ready right away i was unable to help them maybe at least they were angry at something else i was hard work because keeping track of what everyone was doing i couldn't have someone i'm breaking their bones to if they weren't supposed to because then when have enough people working and someone didn't know what they were doing i had to stop whatever i was doing at the time and hope to be in then edging editor at the newspaper i also needed  interesting reading stories and articles to creativity because they needed to be intriguing lest i had to work well with other people in order to be managing editor at the newspaper at the beginning of the day we were in i order to get the money we needed and to take out a loan at the bank and get all the stuff we needed this meant it was crucial for me to work well with the president of the bank in the distribution center on of course i also had to collaborate well with the rest of the newspapers and we don't work well together nothing more nothing would get done because we would have spent the whole time arguing exchange that it was a great experience and very educational i think everyone should have a chance to go to the exchange city because it prepared us for the real  so as you can see everybody here had a leadership role at exchange city and i would like to thank mr williams and this is about for selecting you because you've all represented yourselves very well here this evening and now we're going to look at probably one of the most stressful job all which is the president of the bank and so many that is going to talk about his profile and how actually he was involved with everything person in the city just like oh yes so as we all know to have a business you obviously need money and if you don't have money it can't puncture and so at the beginning of the day all the owners of the companies had to come to me personally and ask for a loan so i had to approv al on put it in the computer and then their task for by the end of the day was to pay off their loan and then by paying off their loan they could create a profit so a lot of responsibilities i had was that it was a very stressful and high maintenance job because every five seconds i had papers on my desk keep overloading in piles and i actually got fined for having a messy desk a no really were ok and are also as not only did i have to make sure all the companies paid off their loans i had to keep watch over my employees and everyone else that worked at the bank so i had multiple jobs in one job so are all the tellers and now people are coming in to to to take their paychecks and deposit them in their bank accounts so they could have money to spend and buy products and throughout the day the accountants would come they would take all their money write it down and give it to me i'd put in the computer subtract the money and i would tell them how much money to pay off and almost every single business maybe wanted to businesses didn't pay off their loan but almost every business paid off their loan by the end of the day which means everyone was working hard everyone paid off their loan  really nice which made it a lot easier for everyone else to work because everyone else was working it made a lot easier for everyone else we're going to just wrap up with excuses once again with a video from the here this from that day he doesn't know that this is coming is a video of him and it's very brief and this telling people how to present themselves and what not to do in order to get employed and i have to tell you i'm so impressed with you and teachers that oversee this program you can see that you thoroughly enjoyed it but i think you got so much more out of it and i think what we all need to know is that we need to need students to be able ply what they're learning and put it out into the real world the more what they're going to face some day i can picture each and every one of you in this position somewhere along the line and i think it gives you something to strive for you might not want to do something like this but it's an eye opener i think for all of you on how to present yourself and i am so impressed great job i had a very good fortune to participate as an interviewer and also to go to the house be exchange city day and i can tell you that all of the campaign did a great or incredibly professional and worked very very hard and it was stressful i was in the newspaper the day that i went to exchange city and those kids just worked nonstop straight and i saw how high the air and the city attorney were to everybody that worked as a team they had to work collaboratively and i think we're really lucky if this is a future where a good check i think you're wise beyond your years and it shows the maturity the sense of who you are and your direction and it's really you your teacher is really right and so poised and confident and i just think that these real life experiences that we're giving to the students and their embracing and really taking such full advantage of it's it's just a great opportunity so i and i think the teacher is i know alice and you've been at that you know x i remember when you first came in organizing this in your enthusiasm and i do think it does get definitely traded on to to the students and they just embrace it too so just thank you so much for coming in and sharing your experience and it's obvious that you took the time to really present these really wonderful stories about what your experience was like so we really i really felt like i was there everybody gave such a great representation so thank you for doing that mention but for those watching this involves a bus ride down the providence to the johnson and wales campus which is set up just like a city there's a city hall there's a sports center there's a newspaper office there's a public garden which i don't brainstorming as i like to do but this is such a great opportunity for twenty first century schools for kids i know in eighth grade to do a career day is that our are logical continue on and follow on i'm just thinking you know if we ever have the opportunity  in the past we've we've unfortunately been limited because it is from three or four towns that we cannot we can't send entire class so my dream is to be able to have enough sponsorship to be able to have say annually the entire junior class or the entire software would have to decide that everybody gets to speak because they think we send money between think we have seventy seats and if some of the other just take them we can send a few more but it great timing because i was a rotary club dinner last wednesday and i actually you come back and tell us about it it's on that is in the next eye opener so this is business responsibility matter what profession you're in you realize what it really takes to run a business and hopefully make a profit and then this personal financial responsibility which kind of go so let's see we can do to make that happen for our kids because they only know one of the talents be able to have it strictly for their high school so that every single child every single student in a particular group gets to  certainly is on my list in my head my mental list that we should work towards that i too am one of the fortunate ones who have been invited and many could participate in different times as an interview which i generally enjoy have great video of them all waiting in line at the bank and the lines all the way out the door and it's their break time and they waste their whole break on the waiting in line just like we do and it's very stressful and they have their checkbooks their personal checkbook that they can go and use to help support the other businesses so there is time for them to also make wise choices with their money and get experience bouncing a check book and all that we didn't really talk about that but i just would like to say that you all are so fortunate to be in talks because not many other towns are one of the moms was telling me across this weekend that she'd been bragging about change city and none of her friends or family in other times i've ever even heard of it and we're so fortunate that we do get the support of the saver and the school district to continue to what you do in life you have to attack it with a strategy you just go in and think you know what you're doing you just have to have a strategy that thing that i probably  thank you so  a day of those activities are the parts just don't store folks percent of the skills very with a check in the mountain thousand dollars if you were to accept it would be used for a fox for his school career exploration activities and you know that that program secondary conferences the monday and tuesday of thanksgiving we can see that it's now list of the twenty fifth and twenty sixth with the elementary conferences the thursday and friday mediately preceding thanksgiving and when you saw the strafford last month they were each mov week earlier and they should be where you see them now elementary conferences on november twenty one twenty two and middle and high school conferences on november twenty five twenty six and see only change would be just a thanksgiving of the girl if we could if you wan that tuesday date but we were all speak myself i was pretty sad to go into the next week for the last day of school i don't think that's really an ideal day to be in school really doesn't seem to care about se actually called for by the governor the first day of the harking back in the fall and the first day of this blizzard would have been calling it the blizzard two thousand and thirteen that the governor issued a  so there are some of the districts who are in the same position as we are with that one monday so being optimistic and assuming we don't we won't have any more but that's a big assumption because it's a very it really is a shame because i know it's matters and just see what if if the committee would like me to explore other options or not in our good friend here joey gary was recently see in the audience has written me a letter with an idea that another district near us is actually going with which is not a popular one going to is if the student is to consider using good friday now we did that for one school last year it was not that popular but it is with the i go community because they have a few member of aghas i think it's a good idea to bring up tonight and to maybe explore options and then that would give maybe you know parents at home time to respond and contact you or contact members of the committee  we could surveyed you know whether they would want it for us to look into any of those options are and that's that's fairly easy to do and i'm up a little bit worried only on the clergy side how that reaction would be if one of those although we are in so as of right now the last day of school is monday the twenty nine twenty four yes and the question is is a productive to come back for a monday yes but then the other question is if there were to be some other weather situations right were not even speak of them but if it required that we did need additional days then it would almost be a decision that said if by a certain date there were no we definitely days versus what we did right that's what i would have  anything so i think we have to make other plans for a not but do it properly to be are there any cost issues or anything else associated with coming back just for a monday or is it just strictly inconvenience no because it's part of the it's part of the contractual agreement so it's strictly the convenience and you know convenience based on that my own personal feeling is to maintain monday the twenty fourth fact that we've gone into next week because technically he's planning to get to the next week through the twenty fifth if we need it it's just too bad it's only the one day because you know that just make a difference everybody hates to go into that next month i think the reason i ask you to in the event of closing that is a legal requirement and this is a legal requirement and as it currently stands we go into monday june twenty fourth the staff is expecting that and that's the way to make sure you are right this is not the authority to point out it's strictly a matter of convenience right now or inconvenience having one day of the week that's but as far as i'm concerned unfortunately it is what it is like i do take your point about the clergy of other people's perspectives i think that's very valid so the real problem i increase by two percent at the end of this timeline for this strategic plan it was based on a rolling average from two thousand and eight to two thousand and ten so what you have on your spread sheet of rolling average and then looking at the next to the last three years two thousand and ten eleven and twelve and a rolling average for all of those assessments to see where we are at this point in time if you look at all seventeen of the tests ten of them and looking at the rolling average we have already met our goal and the all tests combined if you look at those as an average we have sixty eight point seven one percent of students from our rolling average from two thousand and eight to ten and at this point in time we have increased that by a little over three and a half percent with the goal being two percent the next data point was our advanced placement and the sources for advanced placement schoolers are in a couple of different locations one is the college board and the other is the department of elementary and secondary education the source that you have here in front of you is the college board we feel as though that this is coming directly from the college board and so that information is going to be a little bit now are up to date and when you look at the two thousand and eight to two thousand and ten rolling average it was seventy eight point seven seven  percent meaning students that score three or higher on the a p exam so the actual game there was a little over half a percent and one of the questions that we had being i wasn't here myself when the strategic plan was created and looking back at all of the data points and looking at the college board and looking at the department of that one of the numbers for example in the strategic plan it states that our baseline is seventy nine point six that number is not on the card support source or in the department of education so where that number came from in conversations with debbie and myself but ours we have spent seventy six point nine then the goal wouldn't necessarily be eighty one right so nevertheless we can read what the actual data pieces because that's easy but knowing that going back to finding our original data and what if you remember to you know the sixty's playing work when it came down to specifically writing goals of the objectives we divided into groups so not being at this group that wrote that took the data pieces out there i can't honestly say if that's indeed what happened because i was on the jack of three the objective three of the technology group so that's the best we can come up with so you can still have a goal to see if we're making progress toward it but we're we think that was the transposition and then other than because nothing you can see we have data points from years back and there's no average of anything nor a single data point that equals what we have in there so you know everything else we can track back that seems very logical the trends not the specifics and i think from that perspective this is a very beneficial document and i'm sorry to say that so i suspect this was a fair amount of work but i mean when you look at the moment when we can sit here and all this other stuff we talk about snow ice but when we can talk about our goal of great to greater and we can look at and i wish the public again could see this but when we look at you know the results are goal is to increase by two percent and in the majority of our categories we have done that i think that's a very good you look at that third goal with the s a t and looking at reading in the critical writing in the map our goal at that time was to increase and reading by three points and at this point in time we've already increased by five point six seven right now when you look at  that from two thousand and eight thousand and ten we have baseline but looking to date now we have two years of an average versus three and if you remember back to the fall we implemented the d r a two which was a more thorough assessment and included other pieces within that assessment so we had do come up with a new baseline at that point in time so although you see over seven percent seven point gains there  have the indicators there for the district to try to start writing assessments that has the three year rolling average and we have half of those were there and the other two of our work were not yet so again it's it's the midpoint that's here and the math assessments that we talked about back in the fall we have all new baseline it's pretty much because of the common core state standards with the new standards we had to respond to th standards with our assessments so those are baseline so that's why you can not see that updating them at this point if you're going to claim was approved by you in may of two thousand and eleven so it's a three year plan and so we actually have another year and a half see the reason we use that rolling average instead of the year to year you could see spikes up and down because it is different students than it is a different set that by having that rolling average you really are able to look for more credits to kind of  out where areas that you want to focus on and where other ones that may not be as important so i think that that exercise was really helpful in taking each of those in really looking at it over time in the course of reporting  items we've accomplished that we haven't personally i think my preference would be to do an annual plan update i mean that doesn't have to be decided now because we're going to win the in the year anyway because that's and that's what i supposed to be but i think in july when we get back together we need to talk about that again interjected one we're talking about richmond challenge what else would you like to add we did just craft the first draft of the interest of a few students in grades three through twelve what else would you like to see us offer but by the time the end of the year you've got the draft of the packet for provide better guidance to you guys in terms of what we'd like to see on a mid year basis and not the whole things i agree some of the strategic well you know it's not but i do think there is value to demonstrating rigor around measuring academic progress ways to do things better for students are on a day to day basis of interacting with the principals and and their department heads and whatever to get a grasp on what do we need to make this better for students on a daily basis this i agree with what you're saying martha you know i think in the spirit of you know how much time is the only thing i would say is that the strategic plan as stated is a live document and so collecting the data is a way to continue to for us to be reflecting on the strategic plan to say are we moving in the right direction so i think the point is let's make sure that we're not seeing some significant depp's mid year maybe which might i think was part of our rationale for  and so i actually like i think this does keep our focus and i would say you know in terms of what we do is ministries of a lot of our job is that bird's eye view which this represents which where we try to go what can we see it and what's what's the plan as much as that is the day you get inside in july i mean as i read right now i like maybe what we can do is instead of asking you guys to update every element of this strategic plan this may be focus that seems to be the academic rigors the one that has a lot of value the data is the same but maybe amy what we should do in these media or reviews is so here's where we are addressing some of these areas here's you know the initiatives we have in place and here's where we are midstream or something that something  progressing us most of that so i'm going for a year thinking about as we were doing this one i actually think the one that is most current to be updated subjective too because when this claim was created a year and a half ago this this objective was a one year objective because we didn't have any baseline data on culture and climate and help parents tell to post f l so when you look at objective two that's where we've actually made the most you know i will call it crime progress in terms of getting a system in place so we have even though you got them back in the fall but you actually you actually do now have goals that are building based district wide believed to cultural climate so this is actually the one that if we were going to be that pick and choose i would say it's objective to we should have heard about right now because there are actual things that happen that didn't exist before so why don't we make a proposal for the committee why don't we agree to have continue have a mid year review but let our leaders tell us which areas drill down  talked about this a lot but we do want to be in a better place in terms of having a tech cleon that can be clearly articulated that is easily communicated to the both a couple in the school community and then our objective for the big thing an  for was to create that this report which we did so that's our update on the attacks so that i won't talk about it you know in detail but to go along with that is the is my last thing they really sort of lay out in a little bit more detail a link to objective one which is leadership growth and development linked another link to objective one which is the advance learning for students and the third is a link to objective three  if you don't have questions that's where i am that's where we are just nothing you know earth shattering on the  hard part for me all these topics and it's these are things i think you should be looking at throughout the year and i know you guys are but as a committee we don't necessarily unless we put this kind of mid year you know for even just for you to say that you know isn't what we want you're doing so so the secret is how do we then i'm going to boil it down to the salient points but keep it a mid year review in my opinion i agree i think we could do it in a fairly easy way which is is to say if we have a witch please we have an immediate review of this change a plan just for us to say to ourselves what's new right because i would have pointed out the same things the first one objective one with the  the lame duck over there is really enjoying being around are we ready to move on from that yes so let me try to condense this for you another requirement on the new massachusetts valuation system is that all teachers will be on a two year cycle eventually one after the first year when we get everybody staggered but it didn't look like this will always be on a one year cycle couldn't miss it myself and we are all obligated tell them it's likely revealed so to make this little bit easier without going through everything the purpose is you know i explained in the in a cover memo it requires a mid cycle review and so to prepare for that i put in some suggested guidelines but understanding this is your  good review so if you want to change anything that we want to discuss or see next year in the midst of you that's up to you this is just guidelines that come from the massachusetts educator evaluation system and the whole the whole goal  review is really just to foster a dialogue among the committee and with me and really you just want to ask yourself a couple of basic questions basic which is how me doing am i on the right track what do you want me to focus on for the rest of the year between now at the end here so it was really it's a simple as that so it's my job to put together seeable pieces of evidence and put everything in and i am not giving you the big binder at the end of the year although some superintendents doing that but if we the standards entailed but the purpose of the mid cycles for me just to give you a few pieces of sample evidence not everything so under community partnerships i don't mention the turf field of things you know but i tried to mention a few things you might not know about so that you should be saying to yourself when do you want to say to me at mit cycle about homecoming along with my personal goals professional practice student learning and district improvement goals and other all of which are topics we've discussed at this table under various other topic items and when you look at the standards in that big rubric which i copied again and put in there in case you lost your copy from the big binder example pieces of evidence a best position for a good bit of evaluation and if there were particular standards that you would like to see more documentation between now and the end of my cycle year which will be this summer and will be reported beginning of september like you did last year if there are standards that you think i should focus more on that in my ear proven are telling also that i can do a better job providing evidence for you or work hard to limit myself and also if there are things that you think i might be above professional and if you think you'd like me to collect more evidence that you'd like to see in order to render a more accurate judgment in the summer that's fine too but i'm not going to do the big binder but i am going to continue collect evidence of the areas that you would like to see and it could be last year which will be and have individual meetings with me and then provide them to the chair who produce their work who puts together the composite so that the process will be identical to last year minus the minutiae in the binder because the whole purpose is once you know me as a superintendent which you hopefully do and you see some of the things i do and i provide you with some simple evidence of the cycle point that you do you should be able to be able to say to me these things i don't think i need  or i'm good but these few pieces and you can decide after tonight so no pressure i would like to see a little more on for your summative and then for the summit if i'm going to address the areas you asked for more evidence or think that's not what i want a superintendent like maybe the other people disagree i don't i don't know i look back over fifteen years and i want that connection between you and our people and our students and if you have to spend helpful discussion because obviously the system is required by the department of education but we can especially as we progress we can customize it to suit and i think this discussion is a great example of even though the mid very surprised by it but actually it was in sync with how i felt which is you yes i have to tell you how i think i'm doing and get feedback from you but i did worry a little bit last week when i finished this packet that for the first time i felt that w would speak for the i'll speak for me as well because we were the report people but i felt like we spending so much time writing reports and documenting and collecting data that i for the first time went home for the weekend worried about time to spend on what i really think the job is which is i think what you all think the job is over it should be so anything that we can do just streamline the requirements to still have a productive dialogue but be able to carry on the business in the way we know we would like to see trickles down to the principals trickles down to the teacher so we we are working hard this year with her educator evaluation working group with the principals to as we go through this year and learn to also try to streamline it to still stay i mean you say put a little diagram of the cycle we're still following the information that you put together so that we know what sort of documentation to ask for if we feel there's a need i feel but i do think it was helpful at least a newcomer to the school committee to see the kind of evidence well looks like a monster i really do believe it helps define the job in a way that it's never been done before and that defines it the same for every superintendent has come along and that was never done before so i have no problem with the standards or the level of accountability the broad aspects of the job that it defines as well for the mistress i think that the problem that the challenges and it's a problem the challenges we're experiencing at the teacher level the principal level and now you see sitting here is the  there so just for clarity say so we will follow for process for the full year yes but for bid year i think some of the comments we've made in direction hopefully be valuable and so if you are a more fragile superintend know that was grave enough maybe i'll use in your words not fragile and so we we have a wonderful educator evaluation working group which is twelve teachers and six and we started meeting a year and a half ago in order to plan for the implementation of this new system and they are the ones that helped us with the collective bargaining language and we did all that work together truly collaboratively so it wasn't a ministry to function that this is what's to happen to you truly was an effort amy and i co chair that group and we asked the people who volunteered to be on that committee to stay for two years make a two year from it and so work with us all of last year we need twice a month all of last year  for the implementation and that is really why we're successful in being able to bring it to you by early june and say the associations ready to go as well as we have because they were really instrumental in the process and they have stuck with us this year to help us work through the challenges of implementation terms of logistics so that last fall that working group together craft this survey that we asked teachers basically how's it going and in most of the discussion i know you we're prepared to hear whatever it is they have to say because if we don't know how they honestly feel and how the experience has been to them we won't know what to work harder on to make it better so we asked things like just give us some examples of how hard was it to write your professional practice goal and it was easy it was easy fairly easy fairly difficult difficult and how hard was it to write your student learning goal because every educator had to have a profession prep school industry learning all seeing things and you can see on slide fo we got the feedback of how they felt because we knew that if one was really a lot harder to write the other one we provide specific professional development on the one they found harder or whatever it is they want so we say we got better than we  half our people saying they found it difficult a very difficult but all in the fifty fifty something percentile so we did have an overwhelming people saying it was ridiculously hard we could even do it and we got some really good we did have some taking risks setting your goals and this to me was one of the most important questions because we didn't want people to just write goals they knew they could maybe safely achieve was the first year or so producing or intimidated they were how come to me taking risks and you can see that the vast majority of our people said they were fairly comfortable or very comfortable taking risks and you really want to see that in a staff because that's the whole idea take a risk set a goal you know sure about if it's going to be good for kids don't just go with what safe we asked them well at this point what's your level of confidence writing smart goals which was fairly strong and we were happy with that even more important we asked did you receive feedback from your evaluator about your goals so this means an sitting down talking did you receive no not everybody want to ask for feedback about their goals so we weren't necessarily expecting a hundred percent but we actually had ninety six percent of our staff said yes i received feedback on my goals my evaluator and then we said if you did receive feedback how helpful was it ninety eight percent said it was really helpful and beings and so those numbers were incredible so what this tells us is even though this is logistically very difficult for us to implement we've got administrators here who are really investing a lot of time with their staff to try to do it right is well as we can the first time out knowing we're it's a learning experience for all of us when we ask questions about overall how well do you understand the work that pertains to you that's very important and we know that's going to grow as they actually remember this this was this this survey was in the fall so we asked questions about what happened to them just in the first two or three months of the implementation of this system and that's all we limited the questions to just what they had just finished experiencing from september to november and then we asked about how confident are you with self evaluation with developing an educator plan and then we asked this is one of the key questions how comfortable do you feel right now in terms of having open an honest dialogue with your evaluator and we had overall ninety four percent of our staff saying they were a veteran say yes competent no that should be comfortable so ninety four percent of our staff said they were fairly comfortable or very comfortable having open honest dialogue with their evaluator that to me was i mean that slide was a wonderful gift because that's what you hope for and so anyway we have now a second survey rated while in the next ten days or so to our all of our staff members again so that we can collect  st and we're going to keep doing it and see if it gets better for them in the fall is it easier next fall to write some articles will get it so i'm going to say that is what i'm most proud of long story short short story long little more accurately what  her teachers them to tell you i hear over and over from some of your former teachers and i own from time to time and how much they miss you and then where you were and how accessible you were and i think the one thing that really sticks in my heart is when they say to me no matter when we saw who no matter when we talked to her you could always get an honest answer whatever she gave us for information we could take back and we could apply it in the classroom and you you have that special quality and i think that's in my heart i want you mongst everybody that works in the system because you're such a positive powerful driving force within the system and that was one of the things that i always loved about you before during and after and i think that's something that we should be very proud of in that no matter who approaches you no matter who asks you a question they feel very comfortable with you they know you're answers are honest and sincere they can take it back to them you know you're very approachable and i think that's why i want to make sure you have the time to spend with th because i think they can ask you these questions and what does this mean and you know they can ask of the ministers we think it's very important for them to be able to ask it of our superintendent and that's why i feel so strongly about you being in the schools and spending some time for dinner so that's nice just going along with that mark i think too that's probably obvious what needs to be stated is that you are so knowledgeable zal that when you are out amongst other the of the year but you know what i keep saying isn't on t v so it'll be all right i think that's what but i just keep saying it'll be all right it doesn't have to be perfect it'll be ok playwriting career sure because we and dialogue is that we don't get to the summit and you're you're unwilling or unable to meet john i just didn't know what you give us any that you talked about it so that's the whole point so that we're set up to have as much information as you need and that  i've done my job providing you with with that evidence and i don't think that's going to happen t your vote on this in the book so i can smoke plus the full package of what we intend to do and why we intend to do it what the all the issues are with that all go together as one package in front of them you know last year when they opened it up they had a couple hundred people ali and i toured the pearl week ago friday just to make sure we had everything in it and we were knowledgeable about everything that really needs to be done and there are a couple things i know that i'm still wants to mention i think we should mention tonight the scene here that it's you know the things you're expecting the roof and he system and stuff like that are the things that maybe we'd like to talk about some of the things you might not be been expecting to see and i think bill can speak to that and then follow up the structure of the building is just so bad that you need to take it down put the new one ok in life safety you know prevention of loss of accreditation because you're not capable of doing your programs things like that so through the two that we really fall under on the girls school five you know that's probably more the plate that we would do and have done it in all the buildings when we finally get them so again just like you saw here the new world the new windows you know updating the electrical systems the plumbing systems all of that you know you all i believe it would expect that we're going to have to go through the barrel it's a forty six year old building plants you know when you spend a fair amount of money doing the paving this year but other than that the roof about seven years ago was patched but that was  obsolete building in order to provide for full range of programs consistent with state and approved local requirements those two phases to that obviously the program phase and what we're trying to accomplish within the building and then the local ordinance state local of the programs are one of the things we realized once we would shift to the pre k over to the girls school was first of all there weren't classes that were class rooms that were sized appropriately for a pre k class we are in undersized classes trying to you know perform a program service that that's supposed to be so in looking at the building there's really no way to fix mean that without expanding the building in some way actually built if you look at it kind of from up above it one side of the where the the pre k is now actually is about three classrooms shorter than the other side so obviously there was a thought it one point time but probably not a neat so that was never really expanded the the thing that we noticed with working in the build is is that in order to accomplish having the pre k there it took other program space away from that building which is not consistent with what's in the taylor and  incredible she was running back and forth so if you will you want to use the computer for an art project you can put on it once so it is the only school that we only have what we call a mini lab but it's actually a half of them for six years ago in did we talk about that even though this high school technically was built for a much larger population to get didn't have the type of room requirements of we have today and we could never fit that population that it was technically built for know state for the full day kindergarten grant you have to eventually become accredited for kindergartens like the high school process but it was designed for early childhood programs so the the group had just come in two weeks ago two of the ladies from michigan were there to look the national badlands for accreditation early each other programs and of the states we have undersized rooms for temple can we do something similar to what we do we did the high school project and in that we should take a video crew down there like we did get them from the high school sure and go through that building and document you know like we did here what where we were our short falls and what we need to do in a way to make this the type of school that it needs to be and i think that's you know something we can put on cable we can show people because visuals mean a lot to people i mean people don't think about the fact that you're going to upgrade the lighting and you know what it's going to save you and and i think we just need to be able to present this to the public that this is a great will school but we need to bring in a  round of the grants and get beat up by other school districts for whatever reason maybe they're more urgent needs but we are very close to that time in which people just spend money period whether we get this or not from the roofing point of view because once i lose that when i lose the integrity of the building oh absolutely and i have a lot more problems going to get entrenchment of you know when they started in with the renovations versus britain we had to renovate inexpedient otherwise you could get money and and then there were punishing schools like us who maintain their school because we saw the value in it so it hopefully they say hopefully they'll look more favorable favorably appoint somebody like us who's trying to maintain what we have and continue the growth that we need the development in the area and i i i just kind of would irritate my soul to think that there were no but with a project like ours where we have a good track record what we've done here and i think that should help us i would like to think it does go back to i think i think two to disappoint the the other thing with the computer lab being able to get back to full size and maybe even a little bit larger than a full size computer lab is that a lot of the testing that the state is is pushing towards will be  on line testing and again having a building that really doesn't satisfy that need and will never be able to it's going to be problematic for us as we go forward as well you know the n e a in the old school i have to be honest with you it is probably one of the biggest issues we face within the gang labs and some of this building the doors are so small that if we have a child with a wheelchair they cannot get into those bathrooms now we do have some obviously adult bathrooms that we can use alternatives that are he kept accessible but it's not what it's supposed to be so we actually face a bigger issue with the plumbing and things we kind of plymouth really figured out ways to make where we could expand those rooms and i think between devon tony and i we kind of looked at all out and we were at least have options which i feel good i don't take the whole building down to do it but you know i do have a way of getting there but the there that's an issue is too much more significant in that building than even what we had tasted here but you know and again the public needs to know what we're up against because resource you know the it's the only well it's of all the buildings we have there are only two that don't have true jim jim floors which is a hard very hard surface we get rid of every time by the insurance company as to what the  it's a time floor and some of it can't get much harder so you know obviously what we'd like to do is remove that again it's a center located jim it's a it's not a huge him but it's a good size for the size building it is but if we were to recondition and put in a hardwood floor which has you know some spring to it again i think it up great for the children as well as the safety of the children there too so we're really looking at this building and there is there are you know we've learned some lessons in the last process as far as how we're going to document going forward on this but we really are going to outline every issue you know just on the notes that we took through that day i ended up with two pages worth of detail issues that go throughout the building it goes down to a simple as the fact that they have no storage space within the building so we're using regular space if you walk into their auditorium there's just stuff piled in the back and not probably me you know our own requirements but you know so there's no storage at all could then be a room that could be ever converted into a home abbie area and if we're going to if we're going to wind up in the town on a couple rooms would we be better off and in a gym area because you put the kids in there and you have an activity and you want the parents to come and there's no place for anybody would stay and so that being the two story high kind of thing where we're actually ok with the gym i mean it's not ideal but neither is the taylorsville maybe if you want to bring the if the parents want to come in and business building you know that was really because at the time we were in science program a number of other things and you know he didn't say it but i think cafeterias in general are a lot obviously now with all the changes we've had to go through in the way we are actually trying to prepare it actually cook more food having the right equipment to do that and the right layout is very important you know not all of our clinics forty six years old most of it is but you know obviously have created a few things w here over time just to make it much more accessible in and around so so basically while these are everything that's on the final plan these are the things that you know i need to highlight some things for you to get your understanding what you're approving to go for in this particular case it is a full renovation of that building virtually you know classroom storage space needs to get the upgraded and replaced you know there's a lot of just small cabinets and people bought over time and put in place that itself the heating system totally needs to be replaced the electoral system obviously needs to be done lighting up ceilings flooring you know this is really a wall to wall you know florida  ceiling gut and we're going to have to do it the same way we did the high school to be a phased approach we're going to do this the biggest parts of the projects turn somewhere they want to do you know second shift getting through it i mean it's it's never the best way to go but we have no space to relocate the entire school it's not cost effective and i would argue with this state you know until blue to by temporary you know it roams to try to do it off of one of the other buildings type of thing so i think if we can do it the same way we did the high school we survived it it's not the best but i think the parents understand that the goal is in the end to have what i think about a workable bill yeah you know i'm sure there were days were everybody was kind of scratching their head but my other concern is to look or five years from now so if you're talking a project that's going to be a few years down the road before we get into it i want to make sure that we know what we've got from buildable space in this town and i we really thinking that nothing had that is to pre k rooms are should be putting and use it for something functional that you look back and say we really have now the room where we kind of like and i think i would say that we could you know you could always sit there and justify your mind if you love the building and put up the perfect buildings how much better that could be i think what the town has done has been the kind of frugal with the way we approach things but they still end up with a good product and using that and you know  someone said if i rip down this high school for a brand new one what i've done things differently absolutely but the reality is we had a very good structure to deal with and i think the town you know got the the biggest bang for the buck out of doing we're doing i think it was same thing with the  i think i think our overall approach has been you know as dep said the with the size classes that we have you know you could absorb some that you're going through within the existing structures that we have we know the erm was built with a for those open space concepts and if you remember all of those are designed just literally dropped a wall and they're going above the ceilings and comes down you know that's got plenty of space too to be able to basically add almost another eight classrooms there and then the high school again i think you know based on our class sizes and stuff we still have room so i think overall there and this part of the questions that they're asking is you know have you really thought this well planned out and are you capable of living with ups and downs within your district and i think building these other has all that if you can do that so we could phase it in doing some things like that but the reality is anytime you do one of these programs if you can do it all one shot year you never have to kind of come