all right the first item on the agenda would be approval of the minutes for the regular council meeting of may twenty seventh two thousand and fourteen to move they be approved i thought i said my question was whether or not the township would be concerned with be insured as an additional insured on the contractor's policy says can you make that small correction thank you with the forty most of that was uni hour period which resulted in probably they're estimating around a fifty years store we've had pick up we're up to about eighty properties now that we've received calls ramifications and we're going to be following up on a lot of them some of them we feel that there are projects that are warranted by the township that may take some engineering as well as and s probably be contractual projects of that size that we would not do in house for example a couple that came to mind the moccasin drive all washington area we've had a number of adequate system with that flooding on both sides it will washington we feel that that's something that will require a project we have a situation on marble where we had done work back and shortly after the this house got flooded two years in a row now in the basement so that's one we're taking strong look at and then and one it's in here and i think the residents are here we talked about on on find you on the private rationale was back in when we did that but that that's a situation where you may result in the township may need to be a participant in this and the replacement of that part of the pipe needs to be replaced i know that we may need to look at increasing the amount of what we want to do this year at least plan for next year and and i know we talked about this in budget time but you know one of things we may want to look can be used to go in on chronic areas where there's drain it's significant significant upstream areas the correct bottlenecks are inadequate pipes that are downstream driveway had to also lost a lot of plants so silly it's over ten thousand dollars for some of the stuff can get into a lot of money well a lot of the areas that we have in the  township there are a lot of you know probably over half of the areas developed in the township were developed before we had storm water management and storm water management isn't a cure all for everything but it does help mitigate a lot engineering that's where i mean i think mike touched on a few of the areas but you know we looked at some of these areas after the latest event and you know as you said mr berquist a lot of them seem to be coming up to expedite some of that you know we might want to have gateway help us out and get some projects engineered this year and even if we don't construct them this year at least they're ready to go for next year so we're this doesn't happen search or they should leave they should be things that to your point mr curie i guess i'm wondering whether or not there's something that could be done in the initial planning with new developments because some of the properties that existed and were developed years ago never had a problem until perhaps another development occurred either adjacent or about or below or who knows where is there something perhaps esther's up we could be doing to take a wider view when a development is being made so that there aren't any impacts  because it's been revised numerous times and now we're we're following with a new county a statewide policy but we did we did an extensive review of all the streams and just the impact of that and identif same as a piece development before and after that were developed areas where we knew there were problems we were in anywhere from fifty to one hundred percent so there was that the plan had that and it did hold back but then that kind of all got development because we knew a problem down straight what i think gary believe that we knowledge we have a problem we have some issues so we're looking for you guys to come back with some crew doesn't do a good job of cleaning up there's drains if they were clear that's going to be less water i know it's not a permanent solution but it is something that can be done on a regular basis to help avoid water going into people's houses because those go out and do those things here not that they would do but they should they could call public works and make sure it's real it is civil because a lot of times you don't know drains clogged until you have a situation to go on with your move crew necessarily an adequate parts of there are some situations where that occurred but it's just people that live near streams they tend to have a habit of dumping stuff their leaves the other  ended up at the bottom of this and anyone else would like to speak on the subject sure please my name is don steph where i live on me and the club you won't find me and just to give you a quick stone in at home and basically it's i think a two twenty inch steel pipe that the storm sewer with the manhole want top is tied into upstream so the manimal has thirty two inches going into it plus an eighteen inch warm line plus another six inch storm line so you've got all that one into basically where you need a pipe that's probably maybe can handle a third from when it was originally put in and then he can't  which is audience comments and this is a period of time or a member of the audience can talk about an item that is not on the agenda and therefore would be an on agenda item so is there anyone who would like to speak stay a separate line to the principal you plan to commission recommended council prove it there may be subject to twelve conditions all of us have been completed except for condition ninety did not put an address on the plans  still in the process of getting that h o p permit from panda district well or should be they meet the minimum i'm going to say there's fifteen plus parking spaces on the site it from my perspective and you all know i live in that area right now is the summer when there is much less traffic than during the school year some of the issues are related analyze the physical features out there traffic counts and come up with recommended options opposition is growing to this to this proposal and you stated earlier here that as long as this development meets the criteria i think you have to revise your criteria based on the fact that these homes are proposed over an existing cemetery and that brings a whole other can of worms and it does and we're totally aware that they  have as i said a very tough road to get to to climb here so i mean if you want to definite answer i can't give you that because i don't know what they may propose tomorrow or the next day now my name is joyce simpson i live at one twenty spring street and lived there for fifty four years and have enjoyed it very much it's a wonderful neighborhood my main concern about this new development and i believe is about the traffic that it will bring to our street right now we have a lot of traffic around school bus time down at our intersection at stop sign sometimes it's very difficult to get through there when the buses do so i'm wondering if adding another thirty houses to that will really cause a lot more problems than we anticipated  and this street is a fairly quiet street now but even if you try to control the speed and the traffic you and i both know that that's almost impossible to say you have to go twenty five miles an hour i can not going to uppermost that's not going to happen we both know that i just wanted to say that put in my two cents worth that i'm really against this development and i certainly hope that it doesn't go through and just as a private note to mr quest and a friend of your mother's  entrance instead of route nineteen and we stopped them how can you open it again when you have the nerve to open it again after we closed it and went to court daily to fight them again we can't we can't say which right now the developer came to us and we were adamant that we were not in favor of what he's presenting so at this juncture that's were that's were i wish you would take into consideration all the children that are up there now and they are small children to that level you are a long road here and you all have plenty of opportunity not only when a commercial level but also what it does if if it ever gets through that process comes a council ok thank you notified about this change from what i understand from your zoning department today the entire stem of terry is our one a which is residential i would like to know how they were able to put that end there as a as a business because  cemetery is a business and i have real problems with the fact that the streets above there especially spring street if i had to talk to my dear friend i would have known it was even going through because my sister and i have been notified i haven't i can't get any straight answers out of the cemetery would be if whether we were in favor of it maybe not be in favor and i think it was pretty clear clear that we were not in favor of one thing for there's exact same reasons and voelker i live on high street run ten high street here right this cemetery used to be owned by the regina family it was sold i don't remember the name of the company that bought it but obviously there they were to make a profit and they're not making a profit selling cemetery plots so they're going to sell offs the play and so i think the residents here peter's township need to get to this that metairie and that's who their beef is with the cemetery and everybody that has somebody bear we there needs to go to the think calls and i lived in florida for forty years and i know how bad that can occur at any moment when you have a dry season and all the sudden you have a wet season you know cause a lot sinkholes and that's a real concern for all those people who are living up near spring street is to think about it because i'm not much of an ass thank you very much i point that i'd like to bring up to is that i think one point that i didn't understand we are requiring that they give notice to people within one hundred twenty five feet that they will do a pretty imposed inspection of the house but in point of fact if your home is beyond fifty feet from that they're not going to necessarily consider any damage that you perceive or think may have occurred to be their fault cell it's kind of a hollow gesture to some degree in my opinion so i think that people need to be aware of that too that was a point that i will do inspection if you within one hundred twenty five people you're saying is is that if if you know the fifty they're not or they're stripped bare probably by by vandals i would assume but were were in working with mr smith's office where we're working towards trying to get court approval to have it demolished