good evening welcome to the tuesday march third fox were awarded selections meaning where you're going to enter right into executive session now i move we enter into executive session to conduct strategy sessions in preparation for negotiations with the union personnel for the conduct collective bargaining sessions or contract negotiations with the union personnel foxborough highway and water employees union contract and also to approve the february third two thousand and fifteen yes ok thank you we are going to sign off now and we'll be back in about a half hour good evening for you welcome back to the slackness meaning tonight tuesday march third i'll read the agenda the chair reserves the right to call items on the agenda out of order the times that are listed for items or the are approximate times and items may be reached earlier or later than the hosta times the listing of items is those reasonably anticipated by the chair which may be discussed at the meeting at least forty eight hours prior to the meeting not all items listed may in fact be discussed and other items not listed may also be brought up for discussion to the extent permitted by law we just came out of our executive session at seven pm will have citizens input topics not reasonably anticipated by the chair forty eight hours in advance of the meeting seven o five will have a selections update seven ten bill key an and sharon reader will discuss the housing trust at seven twenty the board of selectmen and the water and sewer commission will have a joint meeting to discuss spring town meeting warrant articles at seven forty  town clerk will come before us with a proposal regarding tenure of office and at eight o'clock bill keegan will give us a town manager update junk evening what i would like to do is point out that justice afternoon we worked out some details and assuming that the snow will recede we are planning permission for a home white clean up day on saturday may two and the dually organization has you know committed  successful is number one and two are also asked you to name teen implanted two committee she has she was a very hard working volunteer all the way through this but she also had some other skills that we central part of some other year long the year round activities so was so right now if we could just go this next step and then we'll put the finishing touches on a very a bigger program to take take on their neighborhood or whatever and the amazing thing is it does so much for the town but you look at the hundreds of people who go home that night feeling very very good about not the other thing i wanted to mention many many years ago when a lot of the town markers that we have near the homes of men and women who lost their lives from world war one forward those town squares say they needed some attention as well some of the historic markers and john good tiny painting contractor who lives in town attention and just as an example the wonder veterans memorial parking lot behind stores that michael is going to be number one but then he'll go around with do all the town squares and all those things and  and when we make a commitment to these people and their families that we will never forget those who made that sacrifice it takes many different forms and maintaining memorials a and get the snow out of the way but we're so happy to have him on board well that's that's really terrific that he's doing that for all the families in the town it's wonderful he paints no banks as well  and i'll make another motion that we designate may second for a clean up day and the committee will be publicizing it throughout the spring second all those in favor and we than much thank you very much the other citizens input all right just real brief selections update board wants to again thank all the town employees d p w members public safety everyone has worked so hard during all the storms and continue to work in chip away i think everyone deserves a seat in the beach chair on the count on the commons there so been removed so it has  so again please extend our thanks roger to all for all of your staff and again this goes out to all town employees thank you the other item i have is that the attorney general's office has approved our sign by law which was voted in at our last town meeting so very excited to get that information they have given us some cautions related to it but it's good to have the word back that it's been approved and so our group will get back together again be signed by law committee will get back together and review that going forward so the next item is bill ke and sharon and bill greeter to discuss the housing trust good for we start talking about the housing trust i wanted to extend a personal invitation to each of you the final final final final masterplan workshop will be in this room on march the at seven p m and it's going to be looking at goals and objectives future land use future policies for the town really trying to bring the whole three and a half year process wrap it up and and let's get it finished but we're hoping that we get a lot of good citizen input we've had really good input on the questions of the week and we think the foxboro reporter for their assistance has been invaluable so we're here production plan that we create an affordable housing municipal affordable housing trust to actually accomplish some of the goals of the housing protection plan and it was made all the more necessary or by the fact that the developer of chestnut green has chosen to give the town cash in lieu of some of the affordable units he was going to build so he's paying it off  at the end there will be three hundred twenty thousand dollars that has been paid in lieu of constructing eight units of affordable housing and it would seem that the municipal affordable housing trust is the perfect group to figure out how to best use that money for the benefit of all the people in the town it was not one of the easier activities that we ever got through town  meeting we met we dealt with a number of town officials and town citizens john gray in particular when he was on had come asked a lot of really deep questions that required a lot of thought we found ourselves not only drafting the article but coming up with bylaws and explanations and all sorts of research into affordable housing trusts at the time we created ours there were about sixty one of them across the state we looked at all the surrounding communities to add them talk to most of those committees got feedback about what worked and what didn't work and as i noted in my memo there are places in the proposed regulations where we are put some cabby outs on the powers that the act would allow the housing trust to to do the statute says that the housing trustees may sell or lease or convey any property make any contracts we've said that they can't make disbursements without a vote of the board of trustees of the approval o but we further said they can't to turn into any long term contract without the consent of the town meeting we felt it was really important to have checks and balances to make sure that what was being done on behalf of the town of the town was in fact aware of what was going on so as you noted we drafted regulations they are very close to what you've seen before with two exceptions the original regulations set a member of the ad com would be on the committee i have since read the general bylaws and said that it had come members can only be on ad and secondly we had initially said that the board of selectmen would appoint the trust i also read the town manager act and found that that something that the town manager could be responsible for given the fact that the trust is scheduled to sunset on july first tw sixteen which is literally around the corner i'm suggesting that you all adopt these regulations charge mr keegan with appointing a board of trustees for the housing trust and let's get moving i'd love to do something good with the three hundred twenty thousand dollars good representation from residence as well so that was the reason for such as residents wouldn't be on any other boards or maybe pretty much may not be but now we were hoping is you can see we're looking for people having experience or expertise in housing finance municipal governance or law so we were hopeful that we would get people that had some skills would be very useful to the to the  and then the slackman may appoint or i guess we should say the town manager may appoint any other town officials or staff and i would expect that i would be charged with serving his staff for the trust as an ex officio member whatever and again ex officio members don't vote so that the will of the people is what's driving that bus for lack of better words and then just just a quick follow up question if you look at i mean it's three or four pages of process on this given it again it's probably mirrors a lot of the state a municipal finance sections how to transfer the act right but the goals and objectives of the purpose of it simply says the preservation of affordable housing in town for the benefit of low and moderate income persons so you know if you  look at what's happening in the fisher street forty b so that would be close to the ten percent if not past it plus the other two that are going on so the town as a whole is getting past the ten percent where is the expectations or limits or goals of what we're trying to do as a town it's probably it's a probably a broader question and this but you know the of these rental houses are these own that owned by the town and leased out what happens when you sell it the eighty percent numbers in the thirty percent of salary goes towards housing how is that all the fight i have no idea that's why we want the trust to work on this one of the ideas is that the housing authority  is looking into buying property near wall street surplus state property they received a grant from the state and they're doing due diligence with that grant money some of the money may go to assist the housing authority in that project there are communities which use the money for either moderate we have for low income people so they can fix their homes up or to help lower income town employees with down payments on homes so there's a whole variety of things that can be done with the money i don't know what the best use of the money is i'm hopeful that the housing trust folks will so can this group of seven people come up with those parameters right and then how does that so someone donates a couple hundred thousand or a house or property or what have you by the time it comes in here those goals  set and then i would be automat would be one of the first things the housing trust would need to do the board of trustees is to think about you know where how broad a role they want to take do they want to be a bank or do they want to be developer or do they want to function as a quasi i mean a spa board and be more of a policy board and i think they're going to have to figure that out and then when the assets come in potential they could sit on it for five or ten or twenty years or spend it yearly as it comes in to the all those primaries are in process of writing right out of a right the state law doesn't require that the money speak spent with any space within any specific time but i would think that just that green developer of his money has been sitting there for a couple of years would would want to would use i would think he'd come back to the town and say use it or lose it and then just sort of think about it one of the question if somebody has an asset that they want to donate to the this group so that it becomes off of the tax base ok but that's not a so for the town to accept that is that a town meeting process or is that a selectman process it says that the truss can accept and receive a number one their powers except real property by gift including money ok so when i can say because i've seen in other towns where they take assets or they want to comes off the tax rolls into there may be issues with that property that the town  one that would be concerned about the checks and balances working into the somehow into that process of well i would assume that the town gift policy where you guys are the ultimate except hers except i think this may i don't know that's why i'm out i don't know of this overrides that we send it to town council with some really focused questions bill i think so and that would be one of them and john had a lot of questions two years ago i have to go back t john you know sharon originally the one of the original reasons for developing this housing trust was to be the sort of the depository the three hundred twenty thousand dollars join the other place to put it if mitigation money or other mitigation monies would remain with the planning board and i would think the planning board would be charged with figuring out what to do with the money but the planning board has a very full plate with development and just remind me why do we put a sunset provision on this i'm not recalling that with clarity why we did that i think that was done the cuz they didn't want like in a perpetual housing tress i think people had some concerns about that on the advisory committee i remember going to meetings and i mean it was maybe one of the yeah and this was the compromise that there would be a sense of ok i would review it at that time i thought at that time and i spoke with mr cutler before i came over and we felt that let's not wait for the may annual next year we're going to extend it let's do it in the fall so it has continuity but yes i think you're right jenny that people really thought the there were a lot of questions why do we need to trust why can't they just thing boards or the housing authority where the planning board or some of the existing boards do these projects you know because it wasn't i think some of them has a taisha was on how aggressive the housing trust might be and i think i looked at the list of communities  first sixty one and a good two thirds of them are also community preservation act downs so that the community preservation act requires that you spend a minimum of ten percent for housing a minimum of ten percent for conservation and a minimum of ten percent for recreation and then the final seventy percent you can divvy up however you're based on your town needs and a lot of those communities it seems like they set up yunus for housing trusts to kind of help with the c p a issues and we didn't have c p a so that was another reason we knew we had this one block of money that we need that we would need to find a way to best's band and that there would be an ongoing stream coming in so share and then once we you know send questions and then go through the stockman more we can come back and talk about potential uses of the existing money or lease yeah we would i would think the next step once we get the regulations the way you want them to adopt the regulations in charge bill with appointing a committee requires a member of the board just like when to be on that committee and then start thinking about what we're going to the forty b regulations for the comprehensive permits seventy percent of the units can be for foxboro residence so i would think that that would be the maximum that we could do would be to mirror the forty  language because i think that was also one of the concerns of the advisory committee was that the state would come in and say all right you're going to house these people whether you like it or not this is and i think that was a local housing trust and addressing local needs with local money and the only way the state would get involved is if as as david suggested we get david suggested we go to the state or the federal government for funds right because long as we're spending our own money on our own town ok all right thank you and the other questions so i think if anyone on the board is interested in volunteering for this please let bill know directly and said no i don't like you want to force acting and that we had him drafted the change i've submitted so that's basically the housekeeping items that we wanted so so fire away so my could you just give us some more information about you know exactly the area that you know just for the public to hear from the area that this is focused on the plane in terms of you know the relationship between the two boards and authority that's what this is about if you can give some more detail yes basically ok here's the deal you know you put it in plain english we want to d p w so at the time the water and sewer years is your opinion of our council that the original draft was too bad and he wanted to tighten it up so if i can read it it's pretty simple section three except for those executive powers granted to the town manager and except for those exams and it is a change the residence is on the line and except for those executive powers granted to the town's one of water and s commission is by chapter forty six of the acts of one thousand nine hundred six provided however that all personnel and collective bargaining power was of the water and sewer commission is shall be vested in the power manager that's the deal i or maybe i can i can offer a little more clarification so from so for everybody's benefit here that there were there were a number of things that actually occurred over the over the over many years ninety six was to the first enabling legislation that allowed th off there is a quote in there on the two thousand and four special actives like one time major form of government and in that it says to the extent that this act modifies repealed existing general laws by special and with respect to how that how that affects things is that right now the the water and sewer commission actually has authority over the handling of the water or water sewer matters including the selling of  that's the purpose of the request is to is to put the record back in the hands of the sole water commission however if you take a look at that if you read the actual act that was done in two thousand and thirteen  shall be governed by this act to the extent that this act is now in conflict with with any general or special law are including but not limited to chapter forty six of the acts of  was done and there was a reason that was put in there and so what this means because of this this means that the water and sewer can't you know where it unilaterally contract the sale of flow outside the town borders it needs the proveable of the board of selectmen and this is the same and this is the same checks and balances to that to govern with this would this is the same checks and balances that would govern the sale of flow outside the border because your m f in allows the town to sell flow to a neighboring town which we have allows that right currently doing but right now but this this would allow there of be a checks and balance of what is sold outside of town the same way as a checks and balance in what is when people want to join the district inside the town they have to go to town meeting which is your town warrant so i think this was purposely done so there would  checks and balance down the road when the sewer you think came came to fruition and i think this was file i don't think was an accident i think it was it was done on purpose a housekeeping issue you're address well now women like what you're doing is you're it's kind of a protection for the town just like it's a protection for the town when you go when  someone inside the town wants to join the the water and so district it goes for town meeting approval what this does if you change it the way you want to change it that means unilaterally make make make contracts with out the town entities as we always have we want to walk back thirty years of how we've been doing  languages in here would you have said no so i disagree that this was done intentionally i mean well when you don't mean that when you don't know when you when you have an amendment to when you mention things don't get in there by accident things a put in the done on a whim that was done for a reason did you do because i don't know i didn't do it i don't know i don't know who wrote that but you know what in my mind it's a checks it's a check and balance just like for the outside the borders sales just like the town meeting approval is for the insight and you have to remember this thing was so this your sewer business was was approved by the town i mean knowing that the town meeting wanted to know that they had to say and that was why the provision was put in there the town meeting had to approve joining  says you know no it could be construed the way jennie's construing exactly so he said no this is the deal this is the content and this was the language so i'll give this to you put it in and go back to the men so that's  contract that that's what he said so you are what you want to do that's why he presented the why not a film that's his cure for for your so called problems so over the years the the water and has always handled the flow issues the contracting issues all those things and it is at any time what in the since two thousand and thirteen has what is what what role has the board played in any of  another community comes up the way the current language reads is that you could theoretically you could divorce luck would have to make that decision you have to make as well that was lucky because it's as in say that doesn't say that i make i make th change this language that decision would rest would revert back to sort of water sewer so i guess that you think there's a fundamental question there is that too much authority for one boy to have to kno take that authority off i mean that's that's a question i would have about that and now having said that based on the normal operations i'm not sure why you'd want to change it the way it's working there was a vote that the water sewer commission has in the notes that there was something about selling flo to sharon commons and you know they're still around so that came up yes you do you have a problem with with with running that by the board selectman or even taking out a town meeting is that is issue let me ask it another way where you do have an issue with getting input from the community on decisions like that that could impact our ability to develop a better commercial base you know you don't have you don't have a problem getting in no i don't because i think when the community finds out that we've got to pay for the supper they do probably ok we'll give you not show in order for us to get a seat at the table we probably had to commit to more gallonage so we could reasonably expect to sell so we were nervous about going in and buying what we had to anyhow the same time that opened up what we just referred to as some sequestered gallonage so when our opinion given the fact that we cannot levy betterments we cannot force m down we have got to sell flow to any willing party and if we don't i mean is the real bottom line john if we don't meet our financial how out of we all know that you've got a pretty big knot coming up in a few years and so i mean that's still those are the stakes so i would naturally we want maximum flexibility to do whatever we can do to protect the thousand existing customers we have because the whole deal here was if we buy the expansion hopefully we can dollar cost average in soften the impact costs of the rehabilitation of the existing plant on the existing two thousand people that's a huge question because once it's sold it's sold right when it's finally so the thing is to you know that that's why we're so i'm saying personally that involvement by the board of selectmen involvement by the community even if you have to go to town meeting it involves the town because this suit just was to bring some some say long overdue new life into the downtown section and into the route one forty section and if that begins to get sold away pretty soon it's you know you don't really have enough to make a substantial impact for a number of years so that's why i was saying what why don't you want to know why do you want to change it and again i want maximum flexibility you know why what you want well you i think the concern is i hear you i've heard a number of different levels is the fact that if we act too quickly and so on so that capacity now and we miss an opportunity later on to need it where we need that capacity i think that's that's a that because you miss the opportunity well be the result could be worse and it's understandable but i think the the the issue it's a little bit of a gamble i understand there but the same token you know that what i think  a good point that this capacity was sold at a time for being fox bros capacity and then taking it to another community at this juncture creates a bit of a concern it's about it's a timing issue why can i and i  know i'm happy to have the conversation i think we should really i think we've had it internally now but you know if we go through you know what you what you're faced with down the road like we know that but also the financing structure what you think you might have you but that's unlikely the how to pay for it yeah we need to review that as well probability as to you know we all know that found here and you know thinking that some of these will subdivisions are ever going to get together and run a pipe down there is it's not going to happen you could some critical needs here is around the center of town which we work with the planning board and that's see you know if there was something of a don't think you know we could at least take a look at it and see if town meeting or even input from the selectmen could help out the process but i'm never one for you know unilateral if i can say it right before and i think you know that the more the community talks to itself the better the outcome and i think you know and i think michel there's an expectation of  presenting projects to to the town you know in regard to like i said in town they have the time meeting has to approve people walking up to the sewage district inside the town i think there's an expectation by the the town's people that they will know what is being sold where it's being sold to and you know i mean they they just ignore that i'm happy to give feel have a have a comfort zone a comfort level in regard to what the water and services doing with the flow that that they have i mean the expectation of the town's people is that this was a town this was for the town the expectation was not it's also it's for the neighboring town to help them develop their economic economic areas to better their to give them an economic  is considerably you know not that bad but at least it'll be presented in people know that you know they're just looking for a little openness you know things i think when i think that there's a way to address this and i'm sorry aside for the economic development viability of this community and so much can be potentially if there is still some left over after the there must be so in order to make the payments on make to make the the obligations i think that some of the with that could be talked about at that point but at this point if they become that open discussion as to what's the best way to deal with this because i think putting it all on you is it is a difficult thing to do anyways personally i think this is an important issue for the entire town to wrestle with  you know because it took a lot of time to get to where you got today with that with the offender great agreement and i think it's a really great chiva but as community i think the last thing i want to do is turn around and say ok we're going to act quickly to to then use in and say look i need i need one hundred fifty thousand gallons a day with a flow you've got to wait six months to go to town meeting we're going to go to plan b we're going to go someplace else so it is a lost opportunity but i think we have to be very careful that we don't we don't sell our expected usage so i think we can get there and we work together on that in if we if we set aside communities it does allow that so yes so yes you can do that however the lead to that as as it's written you can't do it you cannot water so we can't do unilateral contract you have to come to a different issue and i think that's something that we really need to visit so it's possible to amend that way and can achieve the goal that they want to get to provided that there is language addressing the cell of outside cells of passage outside  he had to pick up some things and straight out his practice so doing that whether we would you know would flying blind with him for a month really in a perfect world we would have taken this meeting without him being here but  that they're physically not connected they're not in that district they're not in the district because when we created the district map we've only selected two different people who are already in the district that already have sober and  people who are already on so there's a great demand with residents right now there isn't we don't have any commercial demand right now other than that place on the tree but i want to disobey have a town meeting bus but you can object ok verse the legal rights if say the town says no so if you've got a voter a piece of property that wants to tie and goes to town meeting town meeting says no what's the legal right it a mile from it there's a legal process and there's this process and i'm wondering how the two matches that's all that because there could be issues on the other side for sure nineteen b which allows someone in the position who's been there at least five years to petition you have to get five percent of the registered voters to sign the petition and then it gets placed on the ballot the petition has to be filed at least sixty days before the annual town election which meant i had to file them by tomorrow they've been filed as of monday and i've got five percent so i've been talking with mary beth about this you know the sooner she got here because the west with town clerk went through the process last year and she received tenure and i've been debating back and forth whether i want to go that route  an appointed group and after discussions with bill and mary beth i thought the best way to approach it was this route so it would be on the ballot as opposed to town meeting warrant because that's the way the statute is set up and it's a yes or no vote and if it gets voted favorably then i as the incumbent would have tenure during my time in office and then when i retire then it would go back to being an elected position it still remains elected but they would have the new person would have to run for election means that you don't have to run every time correctly the right time you or your term is is consecutive until you decide to retire correct and steve that the mandatory time age seventy seventy if you if you want to do it beyond seventy you'd have to run for election again but you know i don't plan to be working twenty seven he still goes above the process is not done you have the requisite number of signatures well we're in the process of certifying now they started that  today they're certified by the board or registrar as i've not been involved in the certification of these signatures one of the registrars sat with my staff today and they started they will be done that this week because would like to live in a world of no surprises i was surprised i had no knowledge of this ok and the really i'll tell you exactly why when i was going through the process i thought i would have until november sixteenth to get nominees the all of the pitch additions signed just as the nominations are for town election and i realized it you have to have it sixty days before the election and when i figured that out i had two weeks to get it done so i didn't want to make a big deal of it in case i did not come up with the signatures you know i didn't want to you know basically put myself in a position of being embarrassed because i couldn't get the signatures i needed so that's why i statute yeah it says shell the city or town of foxborough go to accept the provisions of the section one thousand b of charter forty one of the general bylaws and therefore provide permanent ten of others i'm not sure exactly but i do know that you know half of the towns are appointed so you know it cuts down your numbers and then you have to be in at least for five years before you can even attempt it and there's been a lot of turnover lately i think we've was not an appointed official know it so some towns choose to appoint by doing this you not being appointed well you know that it's funny because the statute says that you can be elected or appointed and get tenure so i could be an appointed because it is a debatable topic and i think the debate is is a town clerk is a better friend to be appointed or elected because who's your boss if you're responsible for the voters or the selectmen sometimes you your job there's a steps in the sea and there's a procedure to follow it if you know if i was not in good behavior then there'd be a process so that's all the debate i've seen is elected various so there is a conflict by going this route from an elected still elected by tenure i seem to me the office of the town clerk has to be apolitical so by staying elected you don't put yourself in the cross concern yes and that's not the issue that's not the issue now ok and that's ultimately why i decided to stay in go this route rather than appointed because the office needs to be neutral  sometimes it's just human behavior when you report to someone else and they have certain expection expectations of how you should behave or how you should act and the state statute tells you you have to act a different way then i put you in a bad spot and you know that but that would be you talking about if it were an appointed position correct but if it's an elected position and those changes were a result of a town government committee study and the committee came back and they they went to town meeting and they said we suggest that we make these changes for such and such such reasons so what would be first of all there was no government study committee done so what's the what's y justification our rationale for doing this change other then you don't have to run for election every three of them whatever the point of it is tenure and you know other positions in town get tenure teachers get tenure you know firefighters police basically by their jobs have tenure after a certain number of years so it's i'm just looking for the same treatment as those positions basically bob if you're doing of a superior job you wouldn't just get reelected anyway i mean you would you would hope so but you'd be surprised at the number of races that have ended recently there's been a lot in the town clerk world  you get a situation where you get a bunch of young moms out there campaigning around and you know maybe the sitting town clerk isn't as popular as another person that runs against them it becomes a popularity contest as opposed to you know who's qualified to do the job so i'm just looking for a little security for a position that really needs security you can't have constant turnover every two or three years you know it it takes you a couple years just to get up the steam to know exactly what you're supposed to do and if you're going to continue to go through that you don't have problems you can have problems and in the legislative area or in other areas things are going to not even happen it's a process that's worked well for the t since its inception and just wondering what's on the what's on the horizon that spring storm clouds that that you're worried about just that you know she has a chance that you know some person that's popular in town decides you know i need a job i'm going to run and you know they they may not be qualified to do the position but they're popular in town they get more votes and they're the new clerk so what this is is just security is any other question is i thought long and hard about this because the tone of this is you know why you special if if someone wants to run and get elected that's the choice of the people but i think the one position in town if i had a vote for a town clerk i would vote for a duration of ten to fifteen years because i think that's how important that position is not three years in agree with if someone comes up with you know if it's a popularity contest so be it they get elected but the bigger picture is the town suffers because the integrity of the job and he's not a board is one person that works by itself and has you know training in such so i think there's a danger of turning it over even three years is easy for me to say i have a lot of respect for bob and i mean i think people ask you to be town manager no offense but if you wanted to throw he had and i mean you were up at that level i was on the fence on this until you said if you get your tenure in five years you decide to do something else then it reverts back to elections and nobody comes in and fills you to last whatever right it's not it's not for the position it's just for the individual once they've gotten to a certain point  got a certain level of experience then then they can apply for it so that the town clerk is it's a little bit of a unique position you know and i think if you look at a play morris like every three years it's good to have new ideas but the longevity in that and institutional the fact that he's an attorney is even a plus and they have a person of their qualification in that role is certainly helpful to somebody like made it to our staff so i mean organizationally to provide it does provide stability i think that's get thrown out every three years the key word you sent and i was a political and it is a great political resolution and i got to think about that but that's that's a good point as to how you how you keep it stable and how you probably you know you r signatures a certified as some you have enough signatures then it gets placed on the ballot so i had talked to bill and mary beth about this and john it raised it with bill i called bill the other day because i  had no clue that this was even in action and i had a policy i wasn't meant to be circulated it was meant to be i get to make sure i get my signature is before i say anything about it because i really didn't just want to put myself in a position of being barest because i couldn't get the signatures but it was it was also brought to my attention somebody asked me about it and i went i had no idea what you're talking about didn't didn't make me look good but anyway we're asking the questions that i'm sure the people at home were also asking so i mean not when we're asking questions we're not being accusatory and we just ask and i did everybody else's believe me i i've gone door to door on this and i get all the same questions now and that's why on the petition it states right in there what exactly what it's going to do what the what the ballot is going to read because i wanted to be completely up front about this  you know i'm not trying to hide anything i'm not trying to you know sneak anything in i mean i needed five hundred eighty nine signatures i think i get seven hundred sixty so you know i i really put the effort in to get the signatures because i wanted to be there would be no doubt that you know i'm doing it for the right reasons had i known i would have given you my papers so i suppose we really don't have a role to play here other than if you just want it or don't do it for me if ok when happy to discuss it with anybody so you know right totally understand why you're doing this but then i think you know i agree with him hearing the part about it going reverting back to elected that's good to know also but i can totally understand why you do that so thank you you thank you know the questions were if i may just make a comment because i've lived through two towns of ten your town clerks in and west with the first one was there like fifty years and then the second one was when she was there five person running the election for the entire town and you are on the ballot running there was always that really tentative feel and i understand bob's reason for wanting to meet with a calling not have to be in the election after this ballot question not to have to campaign but to run the elections use all your energy to do that you know the ethics has provided some wiggle room for you if you're running the election but it's still not a com position and you don't you know the day of election you don't want to be anywhere near there even though yes but that's your job you're supposed to be there making sure the elections are working so that you know that part of it puts in a really bad you know a comfortable spot and so that would be a great benefit of this but i really do want any of you know me you know i try to be as neutral in this position as i can be and it's hard sometimes because i know all of you you're all running for things i'd love to sign your papers i love the bill put signs and i want i can't do that i be you know and i and i strictly instruct my staff they are not to get involved in any of that either you know first time one of the there were six of us that ran and one of the people that was running against me her mission statement was well you'll never see him a town hall he's a practicing attorney he'll just be mailing i collecting a paycheck if anybody knows me you know that that's not me you know on the air to do the job so on saturdays yeah whatever it takes the night before elections you know sometimes economic plan so we can use that as a tool to decide how many we may decide that we don't need extra licenses when they decide that we need well number one you have to decide what the number is so i think it's  sooner rather than later that would be a great thing to get going on on the plane i know sharon definitely wants in the plane board is very receptive to go so it's well morning i'll be having my first operations meeting since i started here we we understand that there are some challenges with always trying to propose next year but we'll see what it comes out with and he's a pretty smart guy he's got the us a lot of good ideas which he's trying to pursue at this point the fema is is actually i mean what has been working with us on the local level to try come up with it with a proposal to the federal government that will actually get assistance for all the major storms about the season so d p w has been putting together that information will try to pull all of those pieces together along with the with the fire department to to actually make sure that we have what we can put out a proposal and see if it gets funded we probably wouldn't if we did get funded it's not like we would see it in this employees starting on march ninth cutting down will be taking on the board of health administrative secretary position and kathy vinyl has been hired as a human services coordinator placing their retirement there i'll go through these quickly this is in regard to the child safety committee i move that the board of selectmen reappoint the following members of the child safety committee for term expiring on december thirty first two thousand small thing but it's a big thing to them we had formally change the name from child safety committee to child sexual abuse awareness committee it sounds like a technical thing but it's kind of the crux of what they're both uniformly signs are sleeker yeah we just change that is accepting donations and gifts to used as raffle items for the father and daughter dance that was i guess held this week i move that the board is like when approved the acceptance by the recreation department of the following gifts fifty dollars gift to united states of america sixteen game tickets from the new england revolution valued at the you get three hundred ninety six dollars sterling silver necklace from cindy's jewelers valued at ninety dollars and hand  certain favor and the next is the approval of the minimum meeting minutes i move that the boy selectman approved the meeting minutes of february seventeenth two for a flat fee of rather than fifty to eighty it should be five thousand two hundred fifty dollars per month or sixty three thousand oh yeah it would get project letter on the forty response and probably worth mention the neponset reservoir disposal report that's on file i know they can look at that for years and yourself just to let people know that that's published and i think it's downloadable it's on line