and then there was a second point just before midnight when the c section should have been called out of crayon or urgent basis before this last event that in that short window of time that still could have provided the outcome so this was an ongoing process a continued past nine pay attention to what you're seeing we're not saying that's how fast the happen and see this over and over and over again you cannot undo there from the consciousness of jurors who are sitting there watching the trial counsel isn't really the focus here for time but for on what happened you know i'm going to actually go on most of them most of the time maybe i'll just concede that i don't remember for sure that was every time but i'm certainly not saying they didn't do it on a number of it very carefully and you follow from the beginning of the end what you see is a generic representation which is fine at the beginning of how the law circulates in the baby we didn't have a problem with that part of the video then we get to the part of the talked about already where you didn't pick up on this scene of the four at the very end and look at the configuration of the picture the shape of the foam on her on the picture that she has and then look what they did on the video they sued the two to five minutes or so plain but it was always less than ten minutes whatever was made with the disclaimer but they're completely didn't account for the other theory in the case did the judge ever hear is sort of i think going into the beginning if i  thought well i would with all respect i don't look at this thing but my point about that photo was they plugged into what was supposed to be something to help the jury understands generally what happens with this and it became zoe everybody every expert in this case greed that's what happened in this case we weren't allowed to use the exhibit during the testimony of their experts but impeached thirty three of our pre fight blank all their testimony by their through the in the record but that's if looking just at that animation before everything is superimposed on it they saw that then why why did is always monitor go up there  if we're going to have a slide show so it will be again i don't remember that being the objection that was made in front of the judge of the job the objection moved the judge was this is not the right approach but again i don't condone prejudice because everybody agreed that this was the general process that occurred there was no dispute and everybody agreed the end result was the human toll of the showing in the video and is described in the larson the court let you dress a couple of points the raised in the discussions that we just had first of all with respect to the videos i want to make a very important clarification the video monitor strips were shown on the video that showed the court compression th get into the car to get into the car but the baby just wanted to get out is there anything in that record that would indicate did it should not have been done earlier that it could not be the delivery could not or should not have been done earlier than twelve o eight little piece of paper that you can see we have a difference of opinion as to the interpretation of the strips but it jury can't see the doctors couldn't see what's going on inside there so we want to give the jury a visual representation of what the human toll of looks like  this designed to create conditions on some of the jurors to know that this is exactly what happened to zoe there and supposed to be general information about what a variable d something else was going on that something else was more compression that's not controversial it's not controversial what was happening the controversy the difference of opinion was how should we react to it do we react properly interpret what was going on or did we n question of how many times the the preamble was given was given every time counsel objected are you brief that well there were times in the preamble it wasn't given exactly the way we thought it should be given yet there were no objections to that there was a concern about how the team was being given but was given every time and in fact counsel extensively cross examined every one of the defense experts about the issue of time you made a point over and over and over again including in closing argument it's and this is in the report of proceedings a twenty four eighty six the twenty forty nine that in his opinion there was evidence of the human toll that was contributing what was seen on the miner strips to three hours before the liberty which fits with the pathology evidence in this case we've talked about this not that they should have known it was the human home at that time but i causation basis which was planes theory is this human toll would not have been out of the blue all the sudden the in the story