parties to the poor each one of the dollar amounts of the incomes of the respective parties taken from their financial statements that are to follow or and then from there what i have done is written is deducted from the added that the fact that the father had numerous expenses that mother did not have when you had that in there it's clear that each party should be paying their own attorney fees and costs and the wife did not demonstrate calculating child support as determining that income as you would for purposes of attorney fees is a different standard and based on those two cases being done a lot of the the child support that was there would be paid from the husbands of the wife should for those for that purpose next with respect to the issue of venue a couple of things about venue the first is that this is not an ordinary assignment in the ordinary order the fact that the mother was extremely untruthful the fact that she had turned on an offer chinese language abilities to suit her own needs the things that he had found as well as the guardian ad litum in his with regard to the mothers manipulating the children and involving them in the issues between the mother in the father and also with respect to putting the child's life less than that in in hazard one point i'm with regard to the incident where the child was standing on the running board and she started driving away but those and i submit that those things as well as the previous finding by judge vatican guardian ad litum matter justified in order clinton county so there was no detail and with respect to the psychological evaluations that involved after the first order had been her missing the next with respect to what constitutes last custo and then finally admitting that she did know they were some kind of jobs all of that evidence that i put my statement back those were the primary pieces of evidence that we included in our in our all of which occurred after that date in two thousand and eight correct first section deals with a prior custody judge and the second section that statute i went through this little bit of detail in my argument talks about her custody judgment but then referred later on her judgments with respect to in two thousand and eight and sorry two thousand and nine and the time in i'll be specific in september two thousand and nine and the time of judgment fees for changing that reverting back in january two thousand there no matter what how realistic is your position when you look at resources and when you look at attorney's fees you look at the resources of the parties  you've got a child who needs to be ordered and will be working and you don't have any question by any of the trial judges look at this case that that would happen you look at the resources  both parties have to be how realistic is your position when you say well we're going to have to shift of income for the purpose of trials or there we're going to work with parties resources have had to make those discretionary calls the point i think that the justice and i were going to you know you have to have an accurate and appropriate factual basis over with regard and i've already spoken about the issue with respect to whether there had been a substantial lead with respect to the issue of the motion for psychological examination the problem here is we're looking at the same types of issues the same character traits that had permeated twice the mother's testimony you can actually do two thousand and eight titian that now show up again in the two thousand ni case in point review that says you don't have to wait until these problems manifest themselves in the children before you use that as a basis for modification just based on that principle it's credibility have a psychological evaluation of her actions second petition if you will the modified and the first time it had been stood on its own so to speak so i don't think it's for asking the big fish under the circumstances that the husband bio two separate  to ask for a permit to enter or for attorney fees based on that i think is is an abuse of discretion on the part of judgment means all things considered with regard to the petition to modify