why i'm going to tell you what i'm going to just give you an impression of what i'm looking at here you know having a lot of trial experience about what was going on and tell me why i am wrong you have an eight year old coming and that's got as mad that doesn't speak the language she also has a written declaration correct and that's considered by the court and the judge basically says the child starts to cry is getting very upset about having to testify in court is difficult for an adult consider the hardship as to where i have it all written down i'm not going to let you play but this eight year old to this kind of trauma in terms of and talking about the trauma testify not whether you know you're considering the testimony so if the court had all the information you know obviously her hardship all of those things can be established by other people but it's a real a motional to you know bring an eight year old in put them on the stand and you know put the judge under the pressure you know if you send these people off look at what you're doing and the child crying and all of that house that really a due process problem just because the judge says i'm going to consider the evidence and i know what all of the evidence is and you know an eight year old isn't going to be able to talk about how her asthma can't get treatment in that country other people can do all of that you know she can speak the language you can make all of those same francis but the judge simply says you know i'm not going to let you traumatize this child only  that that the trained professional and the mother don't have for the thing is if you look at me what was she going to say i will give second till the blind because i will get sick in the following way was how in the world would she know that when the professional doesn't know it because he's not he doesn't know enough about he's only a surrogate rescue he didn't know enough about medicine to say that she will and will not throw up in the philippines and her some kids are a little more blah day about having to move out of the country then than others and and it seems to me you've got a better argument to make that just big generator is the banker the immigration judge needed to see how this whole judge completely ignored and then when she when she was not she was prevented from testifying litter on goes back and starts questioning that the other people about it and this is what we don't know the answer to these things because she was we of course can see what the child looked like at the time how much pressure she was under whether she was starting the we we just don't know that on the call record except we do know she was weeping eventually  so the judge is there and the judge says this kid is just too distraught to go on and her attorney feel as well the child testified briefly but it was just too emotional for her to go forward and she just couldn't go for it was too emotional for her that's what her attorney perceived was the case with her that's what the judge  and i have someone that it's just absolutely collapsed can't go on and on the way or specific i can't go on are you telling me that the inherent power at the quite that i just have to subtract that eight year old can make them absolutely not because none of the testimony of a witness especially a child witness when that when this becomes distraught and i think the court's probably focused on what was the value of testimony you know basically if we're going to waive the rights removed right but we're focusing on how it's going to affect her that's right and she is so distraught that or at least i guess they want to make the presentation that this is going to be so so upsetting that she should that the mother should be deported and she in an effort to show how it's going to with actor the judge decides this is too much of a strain on the little girl  opening up as a large problem expressing yourself even one on one with us from a psychologist will granted and that's what the psychologist says but you know if it makes a stronger presentation if they're able to demonstrate that the judge and i think they did or are they brought her