opinions and that doesn't happen too often but we're fortunate today a close friend of mine rose tennant rose welcome thank you all know rose here yeah to be here rose is going to actually be the guest host of healthy pets healthy owners and she's going to interview me today you have no idea what she's going to ask so it should be kind of a touch that for me anyway i don't know what i'm going to do the thing is with ed though i found that i mean you're you just have so much information and he's always been willing to  give it it's forthcoming all the time for his friends and you know we need to share that on a broader is fractured and people need to hear what you have to say but you've helped me so much and actually a lot of times what we experience out there is fear you know so many of us are afraid you know maybe someone in our family had cancer maybe maybe someone else had heart disease now we've got the a bullet scare i mean there is always something that just kind of rattles our nerves and and our cages and sometimes you just need to be able to express those fears or concerns and then the best way to ramey them i think is a natural approach and that's what you always give me and i think that that's appropriate for the audience as well so so let's talk about things such as cancer let's say you have a history of those kind of diseases in your family what should you be worried or should you be proactive and if so how should you be proactive i would say rose that proactive is the key and we seem to be a reactive society with health care and a lot of other things you know we tend to put premium gas in our cars because for premium gas we change the oil every three thousand miles that it's a proactive maintenance program right so that you have longevity with your car and you're not paying for expenses and hassles of breaking down cars but we don't do that with our with our bodies good point so you look at diseases like cancer diabetes arthritis so called auto immune diseases and you say well where do they come from well they come there has to be a reason right it's not like that you pull those out of the air and suddenly i have cancer isn't necessarily like a death sentence it's like your grandmother had cancer you're going to have cancer do we have to accept that no i wouldn't  genetically inherited they're less than one percent ok there are maybe twenty percent of diseases that you have a marker for that you inherit but i always you know i've had this conversation many times rose you have a  and you have a key and if you're not inserting that key and turning the lock those diseases don't wake up ok so i kind of look at genetics pretty much as irrelevant were we get our our shape bone structure our color of our eyes our hair all that stuff from our parents but we're not getting our diseases from our parents if our parents had diseases most likely they had a troubled lifestyle or environment environment too much stress right many toxins bad eating they bought into like for example a lot of kids have allergies but were these allergies come i want to know that well if you start to look at what we feed an time when it was wrong for you to breastfeed if you weren't right for doing the motherly duty the right thing if it were formula unbelievable and how can that how can that formula ever replace what mother nature gave you  to support the newborn right and so that philosophy so that goes back to that proactive so we look at what are we taking in what are we utilizing and what are we getting rid of and so if you're not taking in the proper components and you're unable to utilize them and they're just even becoming toxins within the body because they're not your body doesn't know what to do with them in the stores them then then you s that could be why i have cancer that could be why i have diabetes that could be why i have arthritis so preventative care is the issue for any disease i don't care if it's with your mouth or with your finger right preventative care or you go get your nails done right if you think you're getting the so that they look nice but if you neglect your nails you get infected hangnails and twisted know it all right all of that right so so that's a preventative measure for your nels but we don't we're not concerned about what we eat so we sit there and we eat food that sprayed with chemicals to kill the bugs and so forth and we're eating those things and we're ingesting expecting it not to do any harm to us  or we're invincible but if you look at the increase of cancer in the increase of diabetes and heart disease and star or it issue by roy and do you think that just every time you turn around someone has is telling me component that's not synergistically working ok and you get this deceiver we call disease ok so thyroid i believe for years has been under diagnosed misdiagnosed incorrectly diagnosed incorrectly treated and it's going on this very day exactly the same way let's talk about that just for a minute if you don't mind i know you've been talking about the thyroid disease and that's been a top issue for you but just for my peace of mind and for others that have been experiencing this you know and the first thing that people are told depending on a blood test and the but let test really is that pretty just to nerika test it doesn't seem the ones that we are given anymore doesn't seem to really go deep enough but it's a generic blood test test certain balances certain issues in the black and then right away people i mean right away they're put on medication is that the best course of action are we to immediately go on that medication or or or thyroid stimulating hormone ok it's produced by your by your pituitary and then it's a hormone that ignites the thyroid to say whether i need to iraq's in the be produced and sent to the bloodstream or not ok so that t s h they have a scale and they all very well first of all a blood test nothing but a picture in a moment of time ok so you might have something going on today and then you repeat the blood test three days from now and it's different because it's what was going on with you at that moment in time the importance of about test is to look at it over a timeline so if if i have t s h this low low low disorders that is so that what they do is a look at t s h and then they look at t four generally total t four so what what the relationship is that you're looking at it t four is the thyroxin that your body stimulating hormone and the t for if you have a thyroid deficiency and that the tea for is low the relationship becomes at the t s h is high because the low messengers from the t fo or are telling the pituitary to send t s h to stimulate the production of t for ok so so when they see that low t s h and i mean high t s h and low t for your hypothyroid  to your own thyroid t four and t three what happens if your thyroid produces mostly t for that t v or has to be converted into the active form of t three and that's a that's a procedure that needs to be supported for that to happen the blood test only looks for t three so they do it sometimes a total t three and a free teeth t three as well but what they don't know because they don't have the arm with the informations a lot of people don't even know to ask for this i'm not talking about lay people medical people try another so that we should be looking for this but you're looking for the active form of t three and you look at that through finding the non active t three it is the  three so that's the t three that isn't doing anything in your body so there has to be it actually does something if you have too much too three it'll help shut it will help shut down some of the t three production but for the most part of it doesn't do anything for your overall wellness and you need to three ultimately to have energy in your mitochondria so that you can function on a daily basis so that is totally miss in an average blood test so you'll say to some physicians what about the r t three was that so what you do is you take the r t three and this t three or total t three and you make a conversion ratio and then it has to be at a certain point which is which if it's if it's total t three in needs to be at least a ten or higher if it's free p three needs to be a twenty or higher on the ratio and that's an indicator of whether or not your thyroid is functioning properly one of the best things you can do the rose and i rose and i've had this conversation right alongside do you think i know my season are there's something called that we operate under our body's function under it's called the basal metabolic rate and that is basically a temperature and that tells you your resting rate your resting temperature and that tells you what your body's doing when it's not under stress or lo so there are parameters that are set up and there was a physician by that it was a physician and p h d but a name a broad a barnes and they used to do this test where they put you in this tank and it was an eight hour long test and you went in and out of sleep and they measure and they and your breath and all this and then they came up with your metabolic rate but what he found was that if you took an old fashioned mercury thermometer which you can have and if you have it be careful with it because you don't want to break it but it's one of one of the best testing in humans for temp temperature and what you do is you take that to monitor keep it bedside if you wear glasses you keep that bedside you keep a tablet so you can drop this down or you need a record we have in your head and five minutes later that it was that and yeah especially if you're hyperthyroid and you keep a light source and what you do when you first wake up in the morning you kick your covers off you don't want to be under an air conditioner vent or heat ok or ceiling fan and you sit there for a few minutes three minutes with your covers off and then you shake that the monitor down laying in bed not sitting up ok for getting out of the bed to go to the bathroom and stick it on your arm and you get an actuary temperature so you hold it there nice and tight for ten minutes and you take that reading and that reading should be if your normal thyroid function it should be between ninety seven eight and ninety eight two if it's below ninety seven two then you have a thyroid issue because this is measuring your metabolism and for normal metabolism has to be within that range that i just mentioned so if it's like a ninety five t you're in serious trouble ok if it's a ninety four really not breathing ok all right so do you see the correlation either you know the right is pretty low yes and it's only one or two degrees difference but it's a big difference to our bodies so you take the temperature you jotted down if you're in menzies you want to do it on the second third and fourth day ok your third fourth and fifth day rather you keep a record because you want to make sure your technique is proper and you're getting consistent readings right so if you were to do one and it was ninety eight and then you did another one and it was ninety five you're doing something incorrectly your procedure is wrong and then you look at that and you get an average and you said oh my i'm ninety five five ninety six two right so when i did that test on me and i've always want to be cold which we will talk about symptoms right with thyroid problem but i always want to be called never sweat when i workout when i did my temperature was ninety five to zero a lightbulb goes off in my head that's why i'm always cold i blame pittsburgh but it could have been pittsburgh for that ok but but the blood test works well enough to be true could you could your tests indicate that you have a thyroid issue but you're taking your temperature every morning and it seems to be in that normal range for those five days can the opposite be true you said your blood point nine point nine percent of the time interesting thing so yeah i know that this made based on metabolic rate or basal metabolic temperature is is the indicator a tremendous indicator for example mine when after i treated my what what's interesting here and something i'm picking up and haven't even thought about before is that we need to take a break let's take a break then go ahead and i'll remember i think let's i've got i easy but a tool is only as useful as the hand that holds it when it comes to straightening crooked teeth and misaligned jaws orthodoxies have all the right tools in their tool box they're the most skilled professionals to oversee your  talking and that's this you know we talk about how sometimes we expect that because our parents had heart disease or they had cancer that meant that we would probably end up the same way but it occurred to me that the only thing that we can awful horrible diets the the lifestyle the terry lifestyle the versus active the you know they're fast so many the faster the right the the prepared prepackaged food because i'm busy and then and  no home cooked meal with homegrown vegetables and write those type of things and quality meats and so forth so so those are the your body needs nutrition when you when it's lacking in church and you have this ease or disease so so what are some of the things that especially if someone has a background in in health or heart disease or cancer or thyroid disorders what should they be doing instead of you look at symptoms do i blowed after i eat do i snore big one in my fatigue during sleepless nights do i have digestive disorders foggy thinking in my depressed the list this just goes on and on and all those things are ignored oh i have depression let's give you prozac right now let's not look to see why your depression right if you got some mental disorder and we can make you numb so that so that you don't have to think about grades but when you when you look at these things popping this heavy bags under your eyes and you don't understand i  slept pretty good last night but why do i why am i tired when i wake up the people who have sleep apnea and there are on the pat machine that's an indicator as an indicator thyroid issues something you see more women than men have thyroid disorders i would tell you more women are diagnosed with thyroid or dishing than why i'm the one because men don't go to the doctor don't go on and don't want to deal with any of that kind of stuff  they way to they have a heart attack and then and then and then they go and deal with a heart attack if they survived it or they waited they have prostate cancer and they pretty much go and deal with it if they survive that so guys get to the doctor at least once a year right and pay attention to what's going on starts that i tell you a lot over at that time and men don't don't gradually decay like that we kind of go and then we and we fall yeah so so that could be it but i i think it's more that women so anyway i wrote it's not he said she said i said ok so but ari let's look at this way that our roid is the master gland for your whole body if your thyroid isn't functioning your whole body is not functioning right so you don't just look at this picture in time blood test you look at how your daily life is so why can't the network for a physician who's looking for your thyroid well number one you get five minutes with your physician on average number two is that with all the paperwork yeah right and it's not his fault i'll that stuff yes exactly and  some kind of care some kind of care i don't know that you care that's out there right but but in any case the care less as i call it you get five minutes with your physician and then i have to some you up in five minutes right and so so you have to make yourself aware and there are some nice things on online that that are quite credible there's one stop the thyroid madness dot org beautiful site lot of in depth information and there  are other ones as well and so when you go to a physician and you think that you have compromised with your thyroid you go in there and you give yourself doc i have this symptom i this write it down i have this because you know you get a little educate my position as well so the thyroid isn't one big picture but here's the issue with the thyroid your electricity your voltage we measure voltage e k g for your heart maybe for your for your bright right we can we know that every cell in your body has a north pole and south pole we take an m r i we reverse those to take the picture the do a diagnostic test wow so we know we're electricity so we're basically a battery but why is that well we're sailing solution for one we're full of salt we're full of water we're seventy percent water we have body fat which stores electricity and then we know that we have our cells operating and when they're healthy at a normal voltage a minus twenty to minus twenty five kids and mostly around minus thirty five as there is they're growing up what happens when you're in the normal voltage environment and when you're when you're a star wars or when your thyroid is working right your oxygen is being held in the cells the disease state goes because we have this stuff with us all the time that this sees state is at rest asleep and you're  you're healthy so we have to have a happy healthy thyroid in order for a voltage to maintain to hold the oxygen to keep us well when we don't we go from an alkaline state right to an acidic state the i'll call them bugs just as a right of general thing they wake up and then suddenly we have heart issues we have arthritis we have diabetes and i'm not saying lifestyle is not the additive that they do want to continue to to to allow for an environment that your sales there are always within that the oxygen level that you need to hold the oxygen you have to be balance yes now how do we balance our bodies aside from of course i drink that ph water all the time i think you even had some here but but i drink that all the time but that can't be everything that we need to be doing absolute what else should be be doing to just maintain that ph balance well and this goes back and addresses the preventative measure die from from a lot of water what defines a lot of water you drink a gallon of water and hour you're dead well remember the woman i always think about this there was a woman that was it was a radio station that was running a contest i forget what state it was in and you had to drink so much water why they did that i don't know without going to the restroom was part of the deal the prize was a big screen television set can you imagine doing this so you could get a t v set seriously well w what they didn't understand is that if you're not relieving yourself when you're drinking that much water at one time she died she died she died of a lecture lights out and then it made her from a two to a city because i'm sure that even that alone just going to too much water will make you acidic but she's drink diet which is even worse but here's what happens right after world war two they started to the minister pelosi started to introduce fluoride into our drinking form made from the scrapings of the towers leaves of the fumes and smoke towers from the manufacture of aluminum it was toxic waste and it was illegal to dump butt into any concentration into the waterways like iodine but they're higher on the period periodic table and what happens is they have a higher if any of these those receptor sites so the i had dine comes off the receptor sites and now we have instead of iodine we have flooring chlorine and bromine why that's a problem is that's what contributes to the making of that r t three that we spoke about earlier in the show so we have this non active form of thyroid hormone that our body says or dine in our in our pastries and breads and so forth and put in bromide and then and then we then we say it's all mine it's the same from the ground i think it depends on what form it's in alright what name we give it and then we all lot of us have hot tubs i mean i sat in one for ten years before i was educated the light bulb went off and you're absorbing that into your pores right our water is chlorinated and so you have these higher and then you know as a dentist rose i was that for years again until the light bulb went on and as a dentist it's it would be malpractise for me to say don't do fluoride so i always speak as a dentist when i talk about fluoride i never talk as a dentist i talk is under my license from a medical association which gives me to under their license the right to do that to talk about things that are talking to us to buy license prohibits me from talking about wow so do i touch fluoride toothpaste no do i touch fluoride mouthwash is no so there is a is a good marker for why we have thyroid problems because our iodine isn't where it's supposed to be and we have thyroid problems we have illness throughout our body another issue is it's almost impossible to get iodine anymore you have to search for it it's only in certain forms that they're permitted and they cut the dose down and our bodies are a dime does not have a requirement for fluoride well i think there's nothing that says you must have so much as iodine in it and you have to be careful when you start to reintroduce kill down into your into your regiment because i had to and will displace once it's in a high enough what dose those talks things that are in our sights that shouldn't be and then you can get cyber effect and actually make yourself sick because your body is now overwhelmed with these toxins so you need to introduce our dine very slowly and then you need to build up over time to the proper dose which is about twenty five milligrams of iodine  palpitations and so forth they tell you moto patients that perhaps they should stay away from kelp and so other things like that because the high end but that's not true but right it can be done but there's a balance you have to start out very mine minute doses over long periods of time and then you gradually increase both the same thing applies for natural thyroid replacement as opposed to synthetic hashimoto's patients don't do better with synthetic because it's not as effective but when you take something like armor thyroid or nature thyroid which are natural desiccated thyroid medications which are prescriptions you can react if you have hashimoto's because suddenly you have those antibodies against this thing that you're taking to make yourself  so if you're taking ok so for example you've got you're told that you have hashimoto's let's say and you should be under a doctor who understands what's going on and there are things that you can do because natural medication the actual medication that they've been putting people on prescribing for people for years does that not take over the function of the thyroid and in essence your thyroid has essentially stopped working and the is actually doing the work of you and that's that is true and that's the case is that the case also for the natural that's the case for that as well they're both taking over the senate so if you have a disease and you've had a long time nonfunctioning or low or poorly functioning thyroid  the chances are of you regenerating that by taking tyrosine supplement you can buy it sunny bridge for example you have to exactly know what you're doing and it may take a long time but you may be suffering the side effects of this disease stay there just aren't and then start having heart issues and diabetes and all these diseases that have taken hold because your thyroid isn't keeping the oxygen level in your body so there are times that for certain that you're going to need to start a medication so thyroid medication doesn't have a detriment to it unless you're not taking it properly or you're taking it one day and  taking it if you take a natural thyroid medication for example you missed a day no big deal don't don't do that with your blood pressure you miss the mix missed a day you got trouble right so it's not that precise your thyroid produces about a teaspoon of thyroxin for the whole year wow that's all wow so it doesn't take a lot for your body to operate kind of honest iraq's in my opinion the more natural you are the more you try to function the way your body is designed to because you're not synthetic yet then then that's  going to be absolutely that's the best way to support your body support your future a healthy future and you brought up solenn the moment that conversion factor between the four to the active form of two three you know you're talking about these things that that are that concerned women especially women of a certain age and a lot of women i know that you say this mostly because they are the ones that are more in tune to what's going on in their bodies but i think that a lot of the  what's happening hormonally is affecting the thyroid as well and i think that women and just aren't paying attention to that part of their body or that part of their life and they're not maybe taking some of the steps that can help them know what's happening exactly what's happening in their body for example i remember you told me get us alive a test find out exactly where the hormone levels are and once and that works really hand in hand doesn't it with everything else you're talking about absolutely because you really need to know where you are with all of this and they all interact with each other if you're low vitamin d and you're low cholesterol and everybody's trying to make your cholesterol for some on god maybe it's unbelievable why you'd want to do that there on a certain specific times when you need to do that it's not a general operation of life lawyer cholesterol the older you get the more cholesterol you need there's no association between cholesterol and heart attacks to begin with anyway but that's what we're told so you need vitamin d and we're told stay out of the sun and pittsburgh we have no sun and anybody on this parallel pretty much has no sun then we're clothed all the time worried about six skin cancer  but if you had the model right correct amount of vitamin d you don't have to worry about skin right cancer absolutely so if you're so vitamin d is not a vitamin it's a hormone and it's the basis alone with cholesterol that every hormone in your body most people do not know that ad when you told me that  drive in the park when we park in our driveways and you know what's right you know so it's a kind of the same thing is a hormone not a vitamin our skin makes it but we don't have sun you need to be living in the tropics and a lot of people in the tropics don't even have it that they slather on the water when i do i'm back from florida i spent a half hour without putting any scent and listen on it all early in the day early early and i don't get burnt or anything but then again i'm lucky that way but but i want that sun without anything blocking it even if it's ten fifteen minutes if you can do that but here in pittsburgh we there's no way out of that so you have to you can get it from the diet and the mancini right you need to get up in the environment that's right and on average you need about five thousand i use a day at least some people need more i think more so as a habit i know that i'm supposed to take more so just the site myself as an example in the sun all the time hiking convertible sunroof car shorts and t top i mean the tank tops i have my vitamin d test and i take five thousand and use that low is that i'm a because i'm missing half of my absorptive intestine i have other issues but it should have been a lot higher oxidant the whole body you know we hear of vitamin e as an antioxidant we hear vitamin a as anti oxidant vitamin c which is absolutely critical and hope we can have time to talk about that vitamin those are all critical antioxidants without glue to th on none of those work so good as our body naturally produced it naturally produces if you supported again so how do we do that well if you're drinking quality way protein you're you're think a lot of us are told don't eat red meat don't eat a exe don't do this though do that all the things that we need to do to have a good body so great what there's a few ways that maybe the thigh on you can't go to the store and buy a bottle of it just doesn't break does not absorb ok if you buy it in a life of soma for which is a fact spiritual ball a cluster and the glue with ions in there and it's a process a certain way you observe that it's just it's called like your stuff well that ok so we're going to come back with more i know i hope you're finding this as interesting as i am and will be back with more healthy pa back to how they pets how the owner is and with dr edmunds so koski my name is rose we've been talking a lot about thyroid issues and i mean really overall the bottom line is we're talking about any disease anything that's been in your family history things that you're concerned about because there are so many things to be concerned about and just maintaining a healthy lifestyle so that you don't have to worry about those things and i just want to get back to squiggly to what we were discussing in terms of the thyroid issue i we percent you are what you absorb peanut butter and you are if you are if you are what what what you eliminate or what you don't eliminate so if you start off we need protein protein breaks down into amino acids and then your body reconfigures as amino acids into the things that you need so you and i could eat the same piece of steak take the same chunk cut it up and take a bite and take a bite you're going to get something totally different out of it than i even though it's the same piece of protein so it's important to have protein people that are vegans and especially i mean especially vegans and the even people that are vegetarians don't quite have what they need to hold that voltage because our body needs something called a rocket donagh acid and it's in a it's in red meat a little bit in chicken and then in fish and we need small amounts of some parts of our body like our brains have about eighteen percent of the parts have eleven to fourteen percent too much in a good that's an inflammatory response response in your body but you need a certain amount of iraq adamic acid free body to function normally or you have memory and and and cell regeneration and cell your wall regeneration and regeneration all of these things so what happens over here is really eat its steak for example and we don't know where the steak came from and we sit there and we say oh it tastes good but that steak is probably being fed g m o corn g m o soy and if i just look at soybean comment on soy sauce or you shuts down the the absorption of magnesium and zinc in your body well we know we need zinc in our in our thyroid and we mean i'm easy i'm everywhere including your thyroid so it shuts down the absorption zinc as fighting gas and fighting to acid is a big problem for us high in estrogen so why were you know a lot of soy it's like soy milk soy this or that and then the males are maturing earlier males are maturing earlier kids are having higher cost levels of cancer rates of cancer why is that well we've got to start thinking if we're not eating sort directly we're eating sori fed products animals and so what i try to do the the most is he grass fed organic free range and eat meat that the cow or chicken is being way they should have been eating as they were designed naturally and they are so so that story is a big deal you should avoid it it's just on your immune system it's just on your digestive track it shuts down your thyroid well let's talk about just for one moment because i was surprised to find out just how many products contained even my veggie broke burgers that i would eat high had a watch like when i buy supplements and some things are only can only be produced by from soaring corn some things small it was small a number of those things but i look for corn free yeast free soil free all of these things that i want to yalit say what are you doing exactly the coffee shop i go to that happens all the time of the people behind the counter of course heard me talk and i'm like when i'm in line and somebody does it i get the o's yes what the heck is that well what the heck is that likely is that so g m o stands for genetically modified organism so this is where they're taking a piece of d n a from the fish and putting it in a tomatoes to make the mater more red that's good this is where they're combining things they shouldn't make they were experimenting even taking the d n a of dogs and putting in the d n a of cats for what so this food changes and when you eat these g m o derived foods and then there are not a lot of g m o derived foods that we eat directly but there are a lot of g m o foods that the with any you wouldn't think it you would think but the studies show that it does people with skin conditions immune system you know the medical profession anything they don't understand the cause of it i don't know if you can say well that's the craziest thing i've ever heard how does your body attack itself there's no way it can attack itself it attacks a foreign body the damage that happens this kind of collateral damage i'm not saying there isn't damage right on the in design disease but it's not in your body directly attacking itself it's trying to get rid of something that shouldn't be there and then you have collateral damage from the process of inflammation and so forth so why do we have this tack of stuff this while we're breathing in our air  we're we're we're eating it in our food we're drinking it in our water and we're supposed to be healthy it's like everything is working against us and we are working in fear of ourselves that time as well you know that i visit my microphone is like wow you look at the marketing on t v and radio look at the the lack of education that our healthcare professionals have to look at the people in nutrition who are clueless and i designed a pyramid and then they redesigned it and make it even worse it's upside down it should be a top not a pyramid yeah that's right and then when you think they need to revise that we're feeding kids in school improperly it's just a whole cascade of events and then i say ok well now i have m s now i have cancer now i have diabetes or you didn't pull those there and you didn't get it from your mother wow so it's what we're being done to and what we're doing to ourselves all right so if we talk about how much time do we have still on this program because i want to talk about some of the things that are out there i mean now we're going into flu season cold season ebola season i mean a lot there's a lot of fear out there you're going through airports you can't stop traveling many of us have to travel for work or for family psychokinetic right but here's what i do i make a cup of coffee i put a tablespoon or two of coconut oil in the coffee gives it and i feel like gunfights a little like a chocolate in just a teeny little bit of chocolate and it's like a  the time well i do have to do that i'm going to say something here as you brought up you you would you would talk to me and say well i'm bloated today i'm having some again i would say road that you eat out last night yes i did