issue on today in our special senior edition of the big picture we'll be talking with three other p t students from the class of two thousand and three about what success means to them and where they see themselves in the future we'd like to welcome joining cooper success and do you have a different you might have different it doesn't someone else and how does that relate to your definition of success well then go my definition my definition of success circles around doing what i want to do and being good at that so i think that person to me i just think it's being content with where you are in your life and i mean i don't think it has anything necessarily to do with you know like a monetary kind of thing you know i just think it's being content with where you are in your life that's very much the same thing for me i think it's like everything i want has their own definition of success and i pretty much think that's being happy and doing what you want to do do you think that people around the world and different communities have different concepts of success based on you first think success you think you know like big house stuff like that and i don't like that so i think that that society's view of success but i don't think that's really it was probably not the case and also the idea you have your own  where do you see yourself ten years from now let's see what they had to say and going to college and they can all have the money and jobs as they're doing good in school and being happy succeeding in life whatever and like reaching any goals you wish to reach being happy with your accomplishments and being able to support your family and getting a job you're comfortable with and you're happy with the last person that success is something different for everyone but if you try your hardest and you really put a lot of effort into anything you do then no matter how it turns out you can really show that you're successful and that's what i think success ok so that was really interesting we saw how their kids define success but now back to my question was where do you see yourself in ten years because i know you all have sort of different goals and ideas on how you want you take a general idea of where i want to be in ten years and i think that i want to wherever i are i plan to go to college so i think i want to take whatever i study in college i want to turn that into something that i can enjoy something i can also make money off of because i know a lot of people start but happiness being the only thing that you need to worry about but being realistic you need to worry about being able to feed yourself and you know support anybody like your family or your wife so i think that our well being happy is important it's not if you have diabetes you know you have an increased risk of kidney disease blindness and amputations but did you know that two out of the three people with diabetes die from heart disease or stroke fortunately you can reduce your risk of heart disease and stroke by lowering your blood sugar like pressure and cholesterol if you have diabetes ask your doctor to tell you more about the link between diabetes  a there's a forest fire there's a certain where there's a i was saying before i like how our society kind of thinks that success is like yeah it's a stereotypical kind of thing but but as i mean as you can see from all of us talking each one of us individually has different definitions so you know i also think that success  different between generations so we got where our parents think is success may not be the same as what we think is success so i think sometimes that creates a problem i think that happens a lot of times when people select what they want to do after high school it becomes a sort of a conflict between them and their parents but for what their parents or them are doing what they want to do won't get into that later on in the shower because that's definitely something we wanted to talk about but what factors into success and your success personally i think what you  put into is what you get out so the more hard work and dedication you put towards what you want to do i think that you'll be more successful what you're trying to do because when you put the effort in so you're going to get the say a lot out and if i again i think success centers around focused on being focused on what you want in your goals and also taking in consideration what's good for the people around you to do that if you will be doing what you want to do you know and not hurting people around you but i think there's definitely a happy medium that you can you know your mind between what you want to do and what what other people need you to do not feel you mentioned earlier about you know hard work is important to achieving success and i agree with that but do you think that like natural talent also factors into certain things that yeah i you know you're good at you know i disagree with that somewhat because the people that have the natural talent in them and it's inherent in them to succeed i think they're kind of few and far be i think that if people didn't use hard work and they only focus on what the successful at certain kind of leads into have you guys ever tried something where you either knew or thought you were going to be unsuccessful and why why would you try that well myself this year i'm a senior as y said earlier but i signed up for the wrestling team this winter and that was something that i knew i wasn't going to be good at when i first tried it and i was interested in seeing what it was all about because i never even gone to see a wrestling match so i showed up on the first day of practice to sign up and i asked the coach you know should i try this you know i can be any good at it and he said well if you can't tell that now but you just come to practice you know and see how you like it if it's not your thing just don't do it and so i came the practices and i weight lifted with them and worked out and actually enjoyed wrestling even though i wasn't very good at it so i decided i'd stick with it and i've been a team this off winter so i mean i'm not successful at it in some people's terms but i think the skills i picked up in the character that built i think i am successful and wanted to prove to yourself that you could go on do this yeah i think if i would had a little more time if i would have realized that that's what i would've wanted to do if i were taking a chance earlier that i probably would have been even more successful in terms of the normally think about it and the same thing with school even when you try try classes that are too hard for me i mean if i don't get think the grade i'll get the day i've still got something out of it now still some learn something different and i think that's been more successful than getting a report card that says you know and it because it's all about what you've learned what you've experienced definitely i know i feel especially with your art i'm sure a lot of times you might work really hard on to make something  lacks not taking found a lot of failure i think is a very important part of life like if you never fail in anything i don't really ever think you're going to ever grow as a person you know i think you need to accept failure and take something positive out of it you know so you say you can take that failure and add something to your life and get something out of that i think it's important  like i i mean it's easier said than done to just take failure in stride and it's been like ok no big deal but i try to do that because bad things happen to everyone and you have to learn to deal with it you know just feeling like a failure make you one do you think in everyone's life there comes a time when they felt something they get sad about and they consider themselves a failure but i think that passes in that failure sort of turns into a motivator instead of long as you learn and say what i see i think as long as you learn from your failure you're a lot better off i think you've seen concept is there's this the greeks had an idea called retain and what it basically meant was that you try to be the best possible you that you can be compared to no one else and you feel like that is a reflection of how you view success or you just try to be the best person you can be best artist or best wrestler or whatever that you can be and you can take that a certain point but i think that you need to use other people as a reference point to success because sometimes you don't have anybody it's a picture of success what you consider success you don't have anyone that you think the success that you're not going to have a goal to strive towards so i think it's important have other people as a reference for stuff they can never think of the other day you know you kind of have to you know if you're going to be i mean to yourself if you're in an environment that doesn't support that's really not going to be that beneficial beneficial to you so you kind of have to compromise being you know all of yourself in order to  going after after high school do you feel like your views and your concept of success is going to change definitely i mean i don't know how it could because after with your experience you kind of get a wider spectrum of stuff to take from take stuff from and you kind of g or a better understanding of what you know what success is and how you define it as you get older your values start to change and you realize different things become more important to you as you get older you know i think i agree well i think  be impossible for them not to change for us not just limited in terms of eighteen months or years but i think that even by minutes yours your definition of success changes you know because everything that happens to you every person you meet every interaction you have can have an effect on your opinion and i think that it's forever changing it's going on a maturity to like i think about what i thought of success as when i was a freshman and that's completely different than from how i view success now i definitely think that my goals will change as i get older each day i'm discovering more things my life and finding more ways i can improve my life yes i think that my views of success will change that girl because as you grow older you grow wiser i don't think my views of the successful change might get old because success is a state of mind yes because the more you do the more successful you are i think that as you get older your views of success will change because as you get older  you experience new things and new views on life and you think of new goals to accomplish yes because when i go to college i get more mature in my goals will change yes because success will change depending on like what kind of environment i know because i already have long term goals my ideals on how to measure some success will change in the future because as i get because he was diagnosed with cancer as a baby because she was told she would not move to be gnawing because she should have a chance to grow up each year thousands of children learn they have cancer or another deadly disease jude children's research hospital needs your help to research cures and treat these children regardless of their parents ability to because they deserve to dream call them to learn more about st jude's lifesaving work communities words can't describe the feeling of winning your first tournament is being involved really me making grilled cheese sandwiches for a sleep over staying for the curtain call of the talent show or learning the names of their favorite bands believe it or not right now there are parents just like you out there talking about things like this from school to home from friends to futures and we'd like welcome back to the big picture before we touch on the topic of pressures to succeed we'd like to ask you this question in the news in the movie a beautiful mind on the main character feels that when he was told that he hasn't accomplished anything  he says that the other piece colleagues haven't really accomplished a more than he's accomplished it's just that they were recognized for their accomplishments so how much do you think that recognition plays into one's feelings of success i think it's important because you always need motivation to try to succeed i think but at the same time i know when i do something no matter how minor it is all that really matters is that you know i know that i succeeded and that feels good to me down into categories so i say there's an internal pressures exceed which comes from myself and my my motivations i mean there's also an extra pressure to succeed and i think comes from not letting like your parents down your siblings or teachers or spent time to to give you this knowledge to work with i think that when you have to realize that the person sitting next to succeed can just come from yourself and it can come from other people to ask you a combination of both and i definitely agree with you and i think in succeed so let's hear what they had to say pressure i received to succeed is from myself because i can't live with failure my parents pressure me to somebody in my life who pressure me to succeed i probably have to say that my parents are the biggest influence on how or what i should do to go about succeeding in life my teachers my mom and dad usually pressure me to succeed but i guess it's like myself i really want to do well in school and go on to college and be a very successful person my parents my  of people feel the their parents pressure them to succeed now i know a lot of people think that motivational speakers are hearing tapes or videos or books or whatever can help them be successful do you just feel that this is true or do you think that that success comes from books it kind of it's kind of an oxymoron because if you need a book to help you out then you're not really helping yourself i think that it comes from within you and your own motivation your own pressure to succeed and that if it's not  who else can it be i think a lot of people about it i think it really depends on your personality because a lot of people need that like you know we saw from the video that a lot of people you know get their pressures to succeed from their parents or you know are motivated by their parents not their people well if you don't have anyone else like that in your life maybe you know someone on tape or something like that could really do good so i think it really depends on the situation  even even then i mean the person is so far moved from their environment that when they're speaking there are really speaking to the person of the individual so i think that they can only go so far maybe even just serve as a wake up call you know the kind  comes more easily to to people that are in different socioeconomic come from different socioeconomic backgrounds or different races or do you feel like that's something that influences success i don't think so and on and i think it's like that i think you can take the socioeconomic status thing so far and it can provide some sort of limitations to will that have maybe a lower socioeconomic status because they have to worry about things than people that don't have to worry feel about and i'm sure you've heard about the university of michigan's being sued for the affirmative action do you guys think that that's that's a possible answer to the injustices that we are a society you think that's i think that's kind of doing more harm than good personally just because i don't i don't know to me i mean it's hard coming from peter's township but i think that everyone should have the same chance at everything and i think that already have an equal opportunity if they've already graduate from callers so if you want to create that equal opportunity i think needs to happen and they all mature in secondary education william well we'd like to thank you guys for coming on the show when again our guests are joining two