build anything or make any improvements to the facilities that we have in the jericho research forest because this is all over the space and we want to the university is interested in definitely continuing indefinitely space districts within jericho and we discussed the issues and we realized on one hand the university wants to build small things in order to continue to  on the other hand there are other parcels in the open space industry that are not interested in getting any development on zone because that would endanger the conservation status of these players so after discussing it we realized that what we really needed are two slightly different flavors of open space and we discussed what's in the other towns and how it's done and the result was that with absolutely no development so the idea was that the proposal that said came up with was an open space slash conservation district an open space you'll present that everything's great and then he said well you know what i'm leaving and you should continue the conversation with my person comes after me and i didn't hear from anybody in jericho for over a year and i and possibly up here take her home that's also necessary and also it enables i think group workers but only for a stay of up to fourteen days and a class like longer than that you know i you could posit with your review of the regulations of play a commission to refresh themselves for this because it sounds like a line he is saying that they would like more than what has been done  for you could continue as you are and maybe take out some of the changes to the open space district that were proposed and  forward the regulations as they are more or less and give the planning commission more time to come up with open space changes and do that as a separate process we simply excise that aspect of those things we think yeah you could only do those changes you could don't do the open space changers i'm so no changes are made to that part and kick the whole thing back to the planning commission you know this is sort of the first i've come back to you however if they would like to study this take some time to study it and not hold up the rest of the regulations or if they'd rather just pause through the other amendments study it and then got it all together because they were you know there were some technical things to write down and impact significant changes and we had some other discussions right how are we dealing with that the time lines i mean with this impact our having to do something with an a next meeting which is the eighteenth with concepts of the issues that were discussed and then the board hopefully would make decisions on those concepts so that then we could adjust the language come back a planning commission everybody liked the concept says it ok all the words did not get your proposal he shopped around proposal he sent it to everybody i said i checked with the people of the forest researcher they said great good cross section of town of all different people in the views and never fed them we went through this whole deal i wanted to reach out here and see  i could find out some of the concerns of some of the people that serve on my committee and so forth and see if we could truly you know get to the news of each other try to probably work through the process of when i d over to you know we're not trying to make any decisions for this like pork but you know we put a lot of research in all our rights not just this one to believe dr who for whatever that might be so you may want to check on our expertise or why we made certain decisions or something that the energy task force when we manage to destroy me and i started to ask questions because of what i try to do on my own is myself to reach out to the other side and so forth come to find out the energy task force never held a meeting i think that's a very very very serious for all the people that were involved in what took place  task force first was put into existence i was thinking of joining joining this task force but because of my commitments on the planning board and other things i chose not to i looked into the roster of who's forced to be on it i asked the question at the public meeting between slike boarded the plane information who wrote this letter and i was whom ever one person at the meeting tried to stop the other one from jumping mike davis this weekend where are we going here with this stuff what difference does it make another person says i didn't take part in the meeting and it's forgotten i came to the last like board meeting to just see if either any of my colleagues and if you say they did come from the committee because their man on their own you know maybe they didn't realize they weren't supposed to take goes much deeper than that and the people that are involved i don't know if it should be discussed here tonight it's not something that i want to be is a whistle blower you know or whatever you want to call it i feel i have my obligations to the people that i work for equal mossad's in the planner working under a few people however it doesn't matter where they came from the energy task force or my feelings are hear me nearer that is because of all my meetings with the regional planning commission i chaired the climate action plan committee for the regional planning commission and all of that has to do with price truth and air quality because the governor of the state has to meet he wants to meet and reduce our greenhouse gas emissions by fifty percent by two thousand and twenty eight chin you carry it all the power these have to do that the best way we can do that is to reduce our use of transportation and idling tempter which is why a lot of towns are moving away from drive through that is not my concern i don't know how this would ever get over look when you think about that what's going on the deception and so forth this is regard to one instance that i'm very good for and i need to have addressed or got back to me to how you plan to respond i will put it in writing to you but i think it's a fair share to say that i will anything here how you could i am saying i'm bringing this up on its own merits nothing to do with anything else it's happened in down any other letters or any other things you've taken place this is a very involved in this issue and so forth and get to the bottom of it and so on i mean i'm not telling you how to do things i say that might possibly be one way but it is all right thank you do you really decision on whether to go forward with that let's see if we get a speed study done that would lead to snow you know if you see a problem that people assume is there actually happening and if it is it would provide us with a baseline measurement to gauge effectiveness of any potential measures so what you have is a couple things the color thing is shows the results of the recent study and also it's attached is one nine hundred ninety nine speed study that was done for pretty much the same  of the green in and one kind of at the southern end and then another one in between the curve of the green and the intersection of brown streets and barber farm and they had speeds in the south on the northbound direction you have on the right hand side for the northbound and southbound in each location the fiftieth percentile eighty fifth percentile ninety fifth percentile eighty fifth percentile is generally the  main number looked at when setting a speed limit what that is saying is that eighty five percent of the cars are traveling at that speed are slower eighty five percent of cars are actually traveling ha n so what you can see is you're heading southbound and coming into the center that no the numbers all talk about are eighty fifth percentile the speed was thirty miles an hour as you approached the store twenty eight miles an hour and then as you're sort of going by the end of the green it's twenty nine and then as you're getting closer you know halfway between the green and more some of the more radical things we've been thinking about are necessary since i personally generally been in favor of the more radical things i'm not sure but i also like to think that i pay attention to evidence  thing in the middle sort of brick slightly raised sort of a median in the middle but if you ran over it it wouldn't hurt your car but it's enough so most people still away from it makes the roof the lane go like that and then in the case it was last night though not a friend is one of our one of these things like we have this and having seen this and now paying a little look at it and maybe that you know the focus is necessary that people go too fast to so people down we need to make it provide more pedestrian amenities exactly as i did of itself will slow people down and so i think ways you want to have to see clearly you don't have to slow people down by which i mean knocking you know here we have right through the center eighty fifth percentile of twenty nine  and you probably would say be nice if it were at the actual twenty five but that's not a big difference i mean half of the people are going to get twenty five or miles an hour which is pretty amazing if we did recently install had kenny install signs on either say it either end of the center saying you know speed limits strictly enforced table yeah exactly that's i think that goes out the door with this saying that money better long term planning for making it a more you know but that's true friendly vibrant choose the v trance staff member who is our project manager at their level we reviewed the proposal and came up with recommending that the contract be a one dollars only twenty percent of which we have to pay and under we had budgeted in the grant forty eight thousand dollars for design so it's lower than what we had expected the fire department land and then the last one is the school so we haven't you know that at this point because it's also more i thought about the more i found out rageous it was yeah did you know the last discussion which was august of two thousand and eleven was with the homeowners there to bring something to the town better course was to continue the maintenance and go through the final step that appeared was supposed to take place back in early two thousand but never did so the town attorney actually drafted the the homeowners association paid for the town attorney to do that and they are organized getting the signatures of all the landowners because of the way their deeds were piers what the roadblock the road block was that the attorney for the developer wasn't paid so the attorney just didn't get the paperwork withheld the it discussion on draft f y fourteen capital budget be sure so we have the past few meetings we've been through all the sections and so what i've done is plugged in the projects that you discussed and wanted to find in fiscal year fourteen and then identified the funding sources so the first page has the projects to be funded  fourteen and into dollar amount the bottom half shows in total the funding sources of this second page then close for each project to be funded in fiscal year fourteen how that project is going to be funded so we can review the projects one thing that's been hanging out there for a while bigger part yep can review that last buildings or property reserve fund that you did with that you created with the transfers at the end of last fiscal year ok player the board wanted to include some money for park and ride planning and i did meet with meredith burkett from c c t a and she is on the agenda for the meeting of october eighteenth to talk about what they would like to  do we have the asphalt highway improvement the four hundred twenty five thousand dollars is a place mark at this point for a school in colorado you can see twenty five thousand dollars coming from reserves two hundred twenty five from operating that's what we have been putting into the general fund bunch of the past three years for me for paving one hundred seventy five thousand dollars and into subpoenaed class to grant talking about it and then they bring their final thing to the what we have here right right they said the last discussion on the free configuration is oh no i think it is ok it's just and now it's just as the specific traffic calming piece of it is lost some of its urgency thousand dollars so that's forty five thousand dollars and twenty thousand dollars should get a thank you something yeah yeah i think it's a good it's a good number because we can either fund it on her own or we can ask our p for technical assistance grant where we have to pay twenty percent or so ok and if need be can we could you know face it over two years if the cost comes in high we could start it halfway through the fiscal rainstorm but they need to wash out few more times before the feds would consider giving us money to fix so we could probably raise that to the fire department down there with the truck waiting for one more easement to be signed and it's possible if you run into difficulty that we could tweak the plan that we don't need the temporary construction easement so you never want to say never but i don't really so that's right but i mean we didn't think about it hard enough and the folks that presented it to us didn't care and up and say yup we did so the way that this goes out unless something else comes up this is kind of this will be in a holding pattern and then we get into the budget you'll have an opportunity to look at the funding sources and decide to see because they're going to put i mean this fellow is one of the premier artists but from a distance it's too well it's beautiful but we wanted something we could see for me and there and my opinion for the sake of talent and myself and margins and you know traffic flows and everything should come out of route fifty and perpendicular to route pretty good down toward the river and it will be as you're looking at the river off a route fifteen you make a left hand turn and go behind cherry hill and solve for connecting to the traffic circle mark i did discuss that with them once and i guess since i just there is some concerns and that town i've been here sixty five years not ten up to our sixty five and i have a big concern in this town one of those and i want to build a town center and so forth here that we probably example i can do just what you said i can build that take my moneys they don't make money on whatever i do sell lots to do whatever nothing to do for the pale but i can tell you that it doesn't it is something has happened because you have to dress like two fifty year traffic or something but we have never had need of each what we can bring to the table to make a better area for the town and work together you know we're just assuming that all the studies are to do about sidewalks and everything you need waterlog room fifteen on my side of the road it goes all the way to the park and you're saying you need one along demonstrate i mean common sense dictates it i'm just assuming that that would be an real meeting though i'm just saying that as a matter of principle i don't have any problem with it i just can't i can't commit to another meeting you know in the interim but that's ok we were going to we were stuck with a procedural question in time to  now that's a question where you know now the other question that the energy task force we're not going to meet on the twenty fifth of this month but people are wondering whether we can go back short commercial perspective we're going to make that property available for commercial purpose first of all some people might still dislike it but doesn't have the same the same meaning you know if it's a store right it doesn't have the same wherever the town