police chief lee every discussion with route one satellite parking lot seven thirty p m executive session to cannot strategics to conduct tragedy session in preparation for negotiations with nonunion personnel o'leary ridge road foxborough i just want to announce to the board i've been working with linda walsh that's the chairman this share from the j c s about the national night out against crime it's going to be held on tuesday august sixth from six o'clock to nine o'clock on the common we have a variety of other groups joining us will have a display of the district attorney's office and when this arranged for some entertainment and as well as a moon walk for little kids and we'll finish by a parade around the common for the families that stay for the of that and i just want to appraise the board of that so prior to your meeting on the sixth if you want to come enjoy us feel free to do so this is this is actually the thirtieth year for the national night out against crime and fox been involved with the program since the late eighty's and it's through the support of groups like the foxboro j c s that give us the opportunity to have a night like that for passport books attack surely not only do we give parents something that they could take their children's fingerprints with but they're also going to be receiving a small d n a kit that they could keep take a sample themselves and keep it all know i brought in a kayak to make a point that was floating this morning downstairs you know believe me you can see the waterline on it was floating downstairs in our town hall basement that's how bad it is is a billing commissioner i have a responsibility not only to discriminately but the employees of this vote i can issue an order to vacate those people within thirty days following my own sort you fire me but it's getting to that point i'm disgusted nothing gets done it's no longer a joke he gets put up i've been working on a committee for fifteen years and every time last year unit unanimously approved a new town had come oh what happens nothing what happens is we get floods and they get worse and worse and worse they're elected cords downstairs heating the ventilation systems they're not getting better from this rain you people have to understand that there's a serious situation downstairs and it's affecting the employees the morale of this town hall it's a waste of time were i bob whoever has to stop what we're doing to militant day and went back and start squeezing all that water out of there so the employees can go back downstairs it's time to step up to the plate and suck  stop cutting bait we've got to move on what's the house stairs and this building and improve on it do something it's just been going on way too long and every time we look like we're we're getting somewhere so many deep sixes you just can't do it anymore just making a point and i don't mean the emotional about it but i tell you this morning i just discussed it with what's going on thank you thank you bill ok just so i was actually to speak if we could look into renting the facility that the library just vacated was stopped and it is time to make a move even if we have to relocate he's going to get together with see what he can get done look at some real estate not to purchase to rent for now until we can acquire you know acquire the funding to rebuild what we do a new town hall this boarded five all x year and you know a good shot diag nothing we can do about that but we all want it employs it's come to a point where we do need to move on with that so that was my james update today bill still my god stuff so other than that being seventy five seven ten close to move forward with it but not to put the didn't want to make it sound like right now you're right absolutely you know so it's a funding issue and it's putting it in a process where we can afford it with a plan that makes sense and when everybody here wants to move on with it we go we're getting close to an agenda situation here where we're discussing this before i mean five think the point i'll just say that that this project still could have gone forward regardless if the board wanted it the board showed the leadership and said this is a priority it can happen it definitely happen we've shown six different finance plans you know over the last two and a half years and believe me it least one of them would have worked and i know jim and i have spoken about one of the last capital plan meeting i know it can i know it can work if the board just makes  and he's right if this board wants to move it forward we put our arms around and said it's important and there's always going to be the naysayers and people are going to complain about their taxes but if it's a priority and we've spoken about it before you know the police had their advocates in the fire had advocates in the school had their advocates in the turf turfs up had their advocates in library had had their advocates the town hall is a small group that doesn't have a lot of advocates so they turn to the board and they say we need to push this forward so it starts here and it has to end here with the help of the ad hom and also i like i just i just i just wanted to reiterate what bill said what he told you today was no exaggeration there were at least six of us down there for two hours this morning cleaning up the mess and you know it's a lack of proper product to fiddy it's affecting the morale of the town hall employees and you know we're all trying to go in a new direction here and it would be very helpful to you know bring you know boost the spirits of town hall employees if we can have some direction on that well let's put some direction on right now put on the agenda for four i met with the parking lot owners myself and slick woman pola we got feedback concerning the draft that i had sent out so that they all had an opportunity again to put additional information in i believe you got the correct copy in your folders that stated a week ago tuesday when i put it out again to the lot owners and i think i have not heard from any of them for additional comments so if the board would be able to if we could postpone it for an acceptance vote until the two week mark and if it could be moved later in the evening just because of the event on the common so i could make sure that i'm here in a timely fashion eight thirty nine clogged whatever fits the board schedule on the way to eight o'clock if we could  i had a nother discussion with slick woman poll today again about it and we both conferred and agreed that i think it would be in the best interests to again give the lot owners an opportunity if they did want to bring any other items up to be able to amend the regulations before they come to the board and it gives the board additional time to review those so if you have questions during the week individually if you need answers please feel free to call me thank you thank you sir one august sixth august sixth is for round and eight o'clock for this discussion get them out of bed at three thirty in the morning and are an endless stream all day long and they want us to take a look at doing a truck exclusion study it's a tricky study to do it's been tried twice on on oak street and both times we were turned on by mass d o t from the history that i read on it the problem is that the as i said in the memo the trucks originate in mansfield and in order for them to get the ninety five they have two choices they can go south on oakland street and then they have to make that funny little converted loop in that one way section by the railroad station make a very difficult almost one hundred twenty degree turn and truck to have to go it is a little bit it's a little longer in miles than the trip that they're taking now which is to go the other way up summer street on to polk cassatt and then down to oak and then up boat to mechanic and then on to ninety five at the mechanics or interchange but the timing of the route is longer so you know they all choose to come this way and the origination point is right just about at the intersection of maple and and oakland on mansfield we all have seen this there's a number of big trucks that are housed there and they get out very early in the morning and then they continue pretty strong all day so chief and i met with the residents recently and they have a number of wishes and i kind of spell them out in the memo that i gave you the only one that i didn't want to act on unilaterally it was spending them i have to use meals tax money to do this because i can't use chapter and any money to do a study like that and i wanted the board to either authorize it or not the rising i myself think will fail again because it's very difficult to get an exclusion anyway you have to provide a suitable equivalent alternative route if it goes to another town you have to have the acquiescence of the other town and that's very difficult to get but and the study ranges anywhere from ten to maybe twenty twenty five thousand dollars at the most and it would require three quotes that we would not put out to bid but it would require three quotes so i just want the board to give me direction on if they wish to go ahead the residents are adamant about it they really really would like to have that study done more flats and i think eighty six somewhere around there twenty something years ago narrow street called just not street with a very difficult turn off called gas a street and then the next one after that is pleasant street or maple and neither one of those are really suitable for for heavy trailer trucks so they probably right up through the square and turn right on to mechanic street that would be my guess alternative i'm not sure about that would be guesswork on my part the figure that you're looking just so the public understands you looking for a certain time period be looking for completely when i do when i have the study done if the study can reveal something that i'm not aware of there's a possibility we might be able to find some kind of success but  i have looked at every possible route to get the trucks out of there and i just don't know how to do it i just if we if we tell him to keep going up the street and ends up being a sharon issue so are running through sharon and it's no closer that way we would be we would we would try to do a an exclusion that would work best and have the most chance of success and it would be a partial exclusion that would have the most chance of success it would be a  exclusion because you have to have certain amount of truck traffic the first thing the study looks at is the percentage of trucks on the road and if the percentage is over eight percent then that's a trigger for a really looking hard for an alternative route because that that that is that definitely i think we settled the area there's no doubt about it it's thirty mile an hour and the trucks go faster than that i guarantee you they do they move through the guess the change that happened in mansfield so when they made that scene the one way for a portion of their street that was did fox were have any type of approval in that no you have no say in that so if you know that's a that's a local matter for them and they they decided to make that little switch over in the one way that comes all the way down past the tracks doubt that where the station is and it was done a long time ago i mean that that's got to be i don't know if that everybody year ago i don't remember that but more streets the bridge is a bridge over the pond it's got away limitations on it so they can't go that way yeah and your turn and it would be very difficult even for them to to get on to more street they'd have to come down through you have to do the same look yeah i'm going to need yeah yeah you know one thing i know people are avoiding is mansfield has  their own police department has their own deal you know problem of transportation my correct other officers retired didn't his son take that position ok so they don't have that anymore they don't have  check the trucks or receive mail compliance and yet you have a drive to that area i want to sexual see a truck pulled over every day when i mean i was on the job and every hour or so they're also trying to get away from that so i'm sure the replace the opposition surely james in yeah yeah i know everybody wants trucks off the streets that's it's a it's a very difficult you know the heavy commercial vehicle exclusion study is very difficult to get approved would be interesting if you could get the one that was done in the eighty's and see why they disapprove that if it was a percentage or alternately still around that remember still not be jack but it means you take twenty twenty five twenty seven thousand dollars to do that study again i don't have a lot of confidence that they're going to approve it because you know look at payment with the going to look at integrity of the road everything's i mean the road is too good that's why they use it thirty six feet of pa you know and that's what i'm really reluctant to do we can he made a transference we're going to push the problem to some other street you know what your recommendations in here is to narrow it out or add up and make it a truck to sort of go there yeah but it's just at a better pace yeah but if we could get a partial exclusion over a certain period of time to keep them off that i think they they looked at this on the north street when the patriots place was going through and they looked at if they excluded the large vehicles a north street they would go up one forty iran they had a problem with the one forty route one turn and i think they sure do have a partial exclusion on there at nights for the large trucks on north street so maybe there's you know in here is you know  the loud noises at night if they keep people awake and still require the study that we would see her sons what you are saying eight percent would would not trigger an approval but it would trigger them at least saying yeah this is a  money yeah that's a good idea just just a quick and dirty count for twenty four hours yeah and see what the percentage is and then come back in and talk about it again  eighties and the county did the work obviously there was there was a very narrow road before that and it was wind to the full thirty six feet with granite curbs on both sides that also had some flooding issues i rode back in the day  st if we prohibit a large vehicles in oak street it's going to bring that problem to the surrounding areas well you know it's not one problem you create another yeah you know in where oak street is wide and yet you know the only thing i'm interested in is a eight percent or more make some thought thinking at the d o t so we say ok listen we're going to do this watch as a two percent but three percent he said was a we can invest that kind of money into something to get these kind numbers and it's high or maybe we do i mean it just second discussion second discussion a question what did what did this come from and what's the what's the problem that we're trying to fix what's happening is making inundated with these applications in our office for people that don't even live or operate in this town basically to get a license here and they're working in the town because of the towns have on the two or it's a cheaper fee to come here i think elaborate a little bit more on it i had discussion with sandra bought it yet my understanding that especially in the taxi service is that they use foxboro as the operational but they're going to other train stations like mansfield westwood canton but all those other places have limitations as well and that's why they're coming here and they're really not servicing local taxi service you know they're they're really do want to get business from the side of town from once again we're going the so there's this five right now this five five license taxi companies in the town they want one of those actually a limousine service company but they might do some local transportation as well and then you just go around town how many taxis you actually see what you know working in the town area there's really not is this some limited service for in town maybe to the train station or maybe into the airport but for the most part my understanding and conversations with sandra she's talked with other towns that they're trying to get service at other train stations and that but they need a location of work out of them so this motion the vote to restrict the acceptance of new applicants is this for one year for the foreseeable future i think you can make it for the time period whatever you want to what you feel comfortable doing when you  complaints of people calling up and trying to get taxis and either they can't get it or the prices would no competition are out of this world and seen any of that  secondarily a move to restrict the acceptance of new applicants for constable in the town of foxborough again to be reviewed annually second and more discussion this doesn't affect their renewal of the serve civil process like a complaint in a lawsuit or a like a divorce action they need a constable to serve that upon the other party and so they would hire the cost to do that and there are some other items and it's actually a constable and does a lot of the seasons of the postings for us you know those kind of things that need need civil process serving so and a lot of firms have their own say trying get that person licensed in every town is out how they don't have their own there are are these a lot of the kompany is that that's all they do is civil service process and so they work in foxborough they work you know in a geographic region lot happening here i did speak to no force of the chairman and because eric as you state in his letter you're very busy and want to step down kim who has been an acting not an acting a social it's associate would move up and then kevin panders who has been on the board is going to slide over to going to flip positions because there he's more involved in the library and that makes room for the third person which is chris payne who wants to wanted to ask if we could just submit the same letter that we did the last time when the craft organization brought this up there so we had submitted a letter  and what we talked about was not for or against it but and there's seems like there was three applications on the horizon one was in and one was potentially coming from water and sewer and one was you know another business owner just said you know let's look at it from the master plan what second letter would be submitted all before we go any further how do we acquire you know make this part of the agenda tonight without one that was an action i know it's not it's not actually know this was at the high school yes yes a bit of a second with some correction ok on page three third paragraph down where it says mr paragraph down i believe that's martha slattery not dorset road school requests that they could get a larger share of the registry of deeds fees and be self sufficient and not have to charge everybody you know that this assessment and i guess it hasn't passed dealing with their own issues retirement funding i mean that's that's a part of it the other part is the fact that the sheriff's department has been absorbed by the state which is you know it was part of north for county and they had that they were a significant revenue contributor to the county so there's been a reduction in revenues so the pis a little bit smaller to share and then out now they're coming to terms with their retiree health care or all peb liability as well so that's why  previously you saw some letters about increasing assessments for non o for county residents but so we went down for the other reasons that you said but we were looking for it to be eliminated completely thank you and there's one letter in here from  reference it but i think it probably warrants a little discussion because it affects the kind of the whole town that's that letter that they wrote to mass housing but to the state when they did the just not green of the state hospital project they were required to put twenty percent of that housing stock as affordable in twenty five percent of the apartments as affordable and if you remember there was a tri party group of developers a couple there was some bankruptcy and some foreclosures and rebuy backs so they weren't able to come up with that percentage of affordable for the chestnut green so the planning board is doing is investigating can the developers pay money to the town and have the town put it some play else rather than just not green and that kind of goes hand in hand with the housing affordable trust by law that the town passed last year so they have a letter into this state basically saying can we put it off site and if we do what's an appropriate number to ask a developer to pay so we can put it off site so this is going to be an interesting process when the state returns back to the planning board and tells them what to do so that's going to affect future development on chestnut green and or housing development some place in town that is going to be funded by the housing trust that we just floated in the developer there is trying to change the business plan because of the economy in the way it affected the development in that area and he's looking obviously to give the last towards affordable housing but that obviously affects our numbers the ten percent we're trying to get to meet the state requirements so if sharon has pushed this forward to mass housing to get some  that we're very close and in a couple weeks but was but bob cutler is the acting town manager for the time being