are you ready it doesn't matter are you ready my name is jim williams i'm a selectman i'm the chairman of the board this year and i'm convening the june 16th june 16th i almost said april june 16th two thousand and seventeen board of selectmen meeting i'm joined by mark paolillo selectman and vice chairman and adam dash selectman phyllis marshall and we are going to do the last thing first no we the schedule was the meeting was revised so the first item is going to be the application for a common victualler's license at the belmont bookstore oh it's not this agenda no it's okay no so tell us tell us what we need to do on this one so we have an application for a common victualler's license at the belmont books seventy nine leonard street all of the departments have signed off on the application and it's good to go pending your approval and i need to make this statement about the conflict if i may before we do it yeah i just wanted to state that i've filed with the clerk's office and with the chair my statement of conflict of interest in that i am friends with actually the owners of belmont books and my daughter has a summer job who's going to be working there so i'm not going to be voting or deliberating on this license at all just a point of order and i understand that this that when you reposted the agenda phyllis did you indicate that the start time was eight hundred and forty five am yes that was the purpose of okay great perfect yeah the revised agenda good job so i just want people to understand that our information says nine we're starting the meeting before then but you posted agenda eight hundred and forty five it was revised yeah mr chairman i move that we approve this common victualler's license i second all in favor aye one recusal is that an abstention or recu recusal i'm not voting at all all right now i'm leaving okay do you have to take over or something i do i'll just sit right here and take over you're going to take are you nervous or anything no i've done this before i've been the chair for four years out of seven phyllis you'll take care of this for me i will thank you great to see you all good to see you jim thank you well since the thank you have safe travels mr chairman since that we have waiting for myron kassaraba on the logan airport community advisory committee i will skip that for a moment i don't see any questions from town residents do we have any community announcements phyllis we do they're in the flap of your book they're not in the flap of my book oh here you go all right so oh we're back to cardboard recycling so yay yeah that's hard to do isn't it this is such a useful thing and the big one oh but we are going to do a proclamation on this right sure yeah so first and foremost this board wants to recognize the belmont girls rugby team they are the state champs yay great job they had a win over algonquin i don't know what the score was but we got more points than they did mr chair yeah i think that's right mr dash so i think that's just terrific congratulations to all of them and i know that we're planning in a future meeting to have them come in we're going to read a proclamation and congratulate this incredible performance franklin was here how long has the girls rugby team been in place do we know i know they've had a boys rugby team for a number of years i do not know how many years they've had the team yeah oh they've only been about two years it's not a it's pretty new it's not a sport town it is it is it is now it's for the first year this is the first year that girls rugby has been a recognized miaa sport what is it it is it it is now yeah the boys recognized as well as an miaa yes the rugby this is the first year rugby is in any state in the country massachusetts so there's no longer clubs for girls franklin no for girls and boys oh for girls and boys oh that's great so the first champion the first champion sorry to say i wasn't at the game but franklin was it was a great game you said right oh an amazing game yeah so congratulations congratulations to them absolutely to read a proclamation that's just a wonderful it's a wonderful sport my son played and broke his leg but it's a difficult sport to be a part of so anyway congratulations to all of the girls that participated in that terrific win okay and i think you're sharing this with each of us right phyllis yes one for you one for me one for thank you the chairman if he so desires okay cardboard recycling will be taking place on june 24th from nine hundred am to noon at town yard thirty seven c street saturday june 24th that's terrific we have we've sent out this is the committee matt have we sent out mailings on that committee volunteer interests yes the letters went to the chairs of the committees and boards okay people need to respond back by july 7th yes that's correct and i know one of the things we're looking at perhaps is revising mr dash has brought to this board which i think is helpful a revision of the procedures around committee appointments looking forward to discussing and i slightly tweaked it from the last time but the one thing i would what i would like to do is to take these draft comments cause these draft committee appointment rules because we have no committee appointment rules and to circulate them to all the town chairs of the various boards committees and commissions to get comment maybe ask them to respond by july 31st cause we clearly are not going to be able to implement these rules for the current round of committee appointments cause those are happening as we speak and this these rules would these new rules would require certain deadlines which would actually be good to hold our feet to the fire to make sure things happen in a timely fashion i agree with that and that would also give people an idea when they say how do we how do people get on committees you can point them to a procedure cause right now there just isn't one so to just circulate this maybe as a draft get comments from the chairs of the various boards and committees have them respond by the end of july then we can talk about it maybe see about implementing this as of september one or some version of this no i think that's fine i think that's right adam and i know you're looking at best practices as well and that's important right and this is sort of we looked at a number of towns i thank susan and phyllis for pulling that together that but it looked like weston's was the one that was sort of more like where we wanted to go but obviously it had to be belmontized if you will and so we went and we changed some parts of that and clarified it there's no just so you know there are no term limits being proposed in this version not for this current round but for future policy maybe i think we have to get chair comments it may be the comments from all the chairs is that they want them in which case then we'll have to talk about em i think the one thing and i know that this is a concern of yours as well or just i don't know if it rises to the level of concern but one comment when we tried to put in term limits the point that was made and i know you've made the same point is we have a lot of younger families that are moving to town a lot you got a lot of individuals younger individuals that want to get involved in town affairs committee participation is a great way and a great vehicle to get informed about the community in that you expand you know what you do in town many times there's no room on these committees right and it was amazing i went to the vision twenty one implementation committee recently one of their meetings and they have a couple of people who are relatively new to town who are younger and they bring an entirely different viewpoint as far as how to do outreach and pr and how things should look going forward and i was taken aback by that and you don't see that in a lot of the committees so i think it would be i've been telling anyone i can you know if you want to get involved and i say it to the people on tv if you want to get involved in committees this is the time to do it because the applications are open and go online on the town website you can fill out the form submit a resum there are committees and commissions on every topic under the sun i'm sure you are qualified or interested in one of them and this town's mostly run by volunteers to be honest and if you don't volunteer it's very tough to run the town we couldn't do the work that we do without all of the volunteerism on these committees i know i started in the traffic advisory committee i know you started on a committee as well and this sort of grew from there you know yup then i became a town meeting member and then eventually i was appointed to the warrant committee you know i followed you from committee to committee to here you know that i was at the cpa committee with you there and then the warrant committee and now here i was wondering you weren't on the shade tree committee though right i somehow missed that one yeah former colleague of mine on the board was on the shade tree committee but you weren't on the pool committee but nevertheless as well i was wondering if maybe i mean i know the chairman isn't here but i don't think this is terribly controversial if we could vote or just ask to submit this draft that we have here cause all i want to do is submit a draft and get comment and i don't want to waste a lot of time that's fine so i move that we so this is a draft of this year's procedures it's a draft of procedures it doesn't have a date on it my feeling is i would not implement until the fall because i think it's too late to start implementing it now this is the draft here you want to share with the chairs right now the chairs have all about term limits or number of that's right or number of committees you can serve on any of that that is correct it sets procedures for new appointees and for renewing renewals of committee members and how we do outreach and the timelines by which those things have to be done and then how the votes happen it just it codifies pretty much what we kind of do right now i don't know whether we need a vote we'll just have it i'm fine with you know i'm fine with sharing this draft form with committee chairs and getting feedback just getting comment and and more formal procedures and if we could tell them to respond by july 31st cause i don't want to drag it out adam i do think that you know the more controversial topics like term limits perhaps or numbers of committees number of committees you can serve on is an important consideration for us there are two things one is to have rules at all because you know if someone ever complains that they were not appointed to a committee or something like that and they say that they were then treated or discriminated against or mistreated right we can point back to some rules that we followed that are clear and public so i think that helps insulate us in that regard and second and also the people who are going to be on these committees know what the rules are before the game begins so to speak great so putting in the controversial stuff is really not the point right now the point is get some rules on the books and if we decide from getting committee chair feedback that we want to tweak it i'm perfectly open to that okay right great thank you adam so you were there a couple other announcements you wanted to yeah there are i'm going to go through them right now so you are going to share this with committee chairs and we'll get feedback mmhmm yes asking them to respond with their comments yup by july 31st thank you adam and making it clear to them it's just a draft this isn't the final final yeah thank you adam for thank you for doing we app we appreciate it okay there's the meet belmont event this year is being held on tuesday august 29th two thousand and seventeen from six to eight hundred pm at the chenery middle school this is run and sponsored by the vision implementation committee it's a wonderful event for those of you that are new to the town and then phyllis pavement management projects i think i've been experiencing it every morning so is this a broader point of view here tell the listening audience and those in attendance that have patience we're repaving the roads we're at the start of the construction so you're going to run into traffic in the early morning it's that time of year that time of year as opposed to what other time of year is that that you're running into traffic you know oh no the construction gets can we get sort of specific routes about that are being paved so i can avoid those in the morning is that possible we can give you the routes i don't know that you can avoid can i have a little siren on the top of my car to get through talk to the state about that yeah i'll talk to the state there's also a housing trust meeting i don't know if you went oh was that in here that was last night okay it was last night the housing trust met last night so oh and also we want to we also do want to i'll bet you'll recognize what's aram's last name i forget it postaljian aram's coffee shop or diner it's a diner all members of the board were there yesterday in celebration of his three decades within town i think all of you know who aram is in cushing square you know aram's and there's quite a feast for lunch so that was a terrific celebration so on camera let's congratulate aram for the wonderful service he provides to this community and it's iconic and he's an institution now and i love going there for breakfast and he told us last night yesterday which i'd never heard i didn't hear this before and asked my daughter about it apparently the high school kids after the all night party they all sort of go down to aram's for breakfast did you know that lisa did you i did not know that he said like fifty sixty seventy kids go down there for breakfast it's sorta like a tradition like at five hundred and thirty in the morning five hundred and thirty in the morning he's the only one there and they're very patient they're very cool a little tired but they sit there and they get breakfast and he cooks it up for them and i just love going there it's just it's sort of like the place in belmont to attend absolutely and get going in the morning for breakfast so we wrote it right a nice proclamation and we congratulated him so again aram congratulations on your success okay we're right at nine o'clock so i know myron is here we can move right into unless there's any other community announcements do you have anything further are we doing any of oh brendan's home run phyllis it's not in here brendan grant home run father's day run is this sunday it's always on father's day i've run it a number of times unfortunately i'm not signed up this year i have a conflict but i forget what time it is it's online you can go to brendan's home run what time is it usually it's nine hundred and thirty it could be ten o'clock nine hundred and thirty ten and there's hundreds of runners correct franklin there's a ton of runners and there's some there's a possibility that we might have a 5k record oh really well i know that's not going to be me who's that going to be some very feminine very fast young lady i have run the 5k you know i'm not you know not in record pace but no that's just wonderful this is just and i think casey and leonard probably came in front of us for approval at some point phyllis i don't remember when but this is just a wonderful event he's taken an unfortunate experience in his life and his family's life and turned it into this wonderful organization that raises a lot of money within our community and gives back you know especially to the athletic programs and the fields and things of that nature and so those of you that are available i think you can walk on and run or you can go down and participate there's all kinds of activity and it's on father's day and it's kind of a cool thing anything further andy do you have any no for community announcements no okay i think myron's here any questions from town residents some that showed up here now does this little boy have a question you'll have to use the microphone back there julie julie you'll have to come back here yeah do you wanna go first identify yourself okay sure my name's kate bowen i live on bartlett avenue hello we came a couple of us have come to represent folks in the neighborhood who live on bartlett avenue or abut bartlett avenue because we're concerned about the way it is being finished so the road was on the reconstruction list for last year but nothing's happening to the sidewalk some neighbors have opted to pay in for curbs including myself but nothing else is being done so i came i have to go to another meeting but i came just to ask and to share about safe routes to school this route is part of our safe routes to school route and it only has one existing sidewalk that particular road serves a major bus station at the end of the street there on trapelo harriet and bartlett and trapelo kind of all merge together right there by the dry cleaners and that's a bus stop of the seventy three and as you know the seventy three is one of the yup top ten top seven maybe abut palfrey square yes yes yeah the sign's no longer there just the people down at the yes right right so a number of roads were looked at in our safe routes to school walk assessment which was done in two thousand and fifteen i'd be happy to provide that report to you if you don't have a copy of it several of our department heads participated in that walk i won't go on to the other streets but it does seem like there's some information that needs to be shared about what safe routes to schools is it's both a state organization and a national organization and in belmont different schools are active at different levels but the program itself works to help schools identify safe routes increase participation by walking and biking there's you know largely programming and then there's also as you know some infrastructure financial support through grants belmont's already received one that grant is still in process that was back in two thousand and fourteen that it was awarded for wellington again that was an area where the sidewalk wasn't fully reconstructed from a major intersection to the school just the school frontage so we're concerned about bartlett cause nothing is happening with that sidewalk a second layer of concern is a lot of areas you know there's a lot of inequality basically we're looking at driveway skirts that are being treated with asphalt we're looking at repairs that are being slathered with asphalt so it really looks like a widening of the road and not a distinction between sidewalk and i think we i think we got an email on this is this a road that's being repaved under our pavement management program correct community development is working on this issue with the okay we have the various people we have sidewalk funds as well right so if this is safe routes to school we can have glenn speak to them let's look at whether we can prioritize that sidewalk replacement as part of the pavement it is part of it is being addressed looked at by community development they are they have received comments from folks and they are still it's a work in progress yeah my understanding from having mr vice chair from having dealt with this issue of with some of the residents recently and with mr clancy is that there's a twopart process they went and did a part of the work then they went to do another street and then they're going to come back and finish up and then the contractor i guess controls the timing of which street they do when within the whole contract so they are coming back so what you see is not complete however that the final plan i don't think goes as far as from what i understand the residents want that's correct the final plan would include sidewalks adam is that it curbs i mean there are not even curbs on some of these i take my daughter to play soccer down at pq and we park on bartlett sometimes and there's you can pull right up onto the sidewalk i mean it's not the street's in horrible horrible condition i know that's being addressed with the pavement management so it will be better but it won't be great can we look at this a way especially if it's a safe routes to school we're looking at it we are looking at it it's obviously a part of the plan and it is being addressed as described it's not as fully addressed as people would like but well can glenn look at that and then feed you know in coordinating with him get back to us on this matter yeah that this should be in the summer months and we can take care of this during the summer months before school begins in the fall i had emailed glenn about that but i believe he's away this week and next or something like that so yeah there has been there is a response i understand it is not to the extent that folks would like it to be but we you know we're we're trying to manage it within the plan because we're trying to be sensitive to where the funds have to go and what it costs and you know i'd be willing if the neighbors would like when glenn is back to have a neighbor if you want to and all of us or just one of us have a neighborhood meeting maybe down at the school or something like that if you don't mind then if you wanna since you've already sort of reached out to glenn to sort of take this on sure yeah i'd be happy to do it if there's an opportunity to do more here then let's think about it i think that should be me i know for instance i was involved with the burbank parents when they were when the crossing guard got hit and they brought in people from the state safe routes to school and all and they told us they had no more money to give belmont and even if they did they wouldn't give it to us cause we just got the grant in two thousand and fourteen for wellington right however we and that's why it ended up going on our budget our capital budget instead of on the state money so i would assume they'll probably say the same thing again but we had a really good meeting glenn came chief macisaac came and it was a really ni really good turnout of parents maybe you know if you guys could arrange a date at the butler school once glenn returns we could have a bigger discussion outside of sort of the formality of this and maybe get to see if there's anything more we can do okay i just can i offer one more suggestion as you think about those trees and siting trees are sort of the last measure to make site lines that prevent people from parking up and they're parking onto the pedestrian right of way they are and we know that the enforcement is limited we have limited ability to enforce so really infrastructure and key infrastructure changes are what's going to enable people to access the road we'll look at it okay i'm just going to work on this directly with you if you give me thank you pick some dates in july we'll sort something out okay that sounds good we want to do something and it would be great to meet on site i know butler's i'm fine i'm happy to meet at your house or anywhere else you're welcome in my home have been on it but i gotta go down and check it out again if we go in july we can just be outside then you'll experience the true nature of bartlett yeah thanks for coming thank you very much thank you any other questions from town residents i think julie has hi julie crockett at two hundred and thirty two trapelo road i'm here for a similar reason that kate is and mark you've already gone to the crux of this which is where is our sidewalk money being spent and so i just wanted to share what what i've observed so for the two thousand and sixteen pavement management money several roads including sharpe which we are aware of needed help sherman middlecot and bartlett were all on the list for the pavement management that year and then somewhere in between when town meeting gets that list and when construction started they decide which sidewalks they're going to do and once they've started work you can go on the website and click on the various streets and you'll see whether they're doing you know water and sewer and you also see whether they're doing sidewalks and for sharpe middlecot sherman sidewalks say the date they're doing it or complete at this point they're all complete and for bartlett the sidewalk said nonapplicable so i'd really like some more transparency in terms of how we're deciding out of that list which sidewalks are done and also looking at the two thousand and sixteen two thousand and seventeen and two thousand and eighteen street lists as a whole and seeing which of those are safe routes to school because when i look at two thousand and seventeen two thousand and eighteen nothing pops out at me more than bartlett which was on the two thousand and sixteen list i mean i didn't know that when i wrote to glenn about this similar issue that he said that the safe routes to school streets are ones adjacent to the school like sharpe to burbank not ones that are near the school more like bartlett however i can't say whether that's true or not that was just an email and then i wanted to get more information and he was on vacation so the discussion is sort of open right now yeah so we we'll get more information and certainly if we have that meeting we can get we get glenn there we can do that budget funding last year is there's a report that i don't know if it's quite completed yet but didn't we an assessment of the sidewalk conditions to parallel with the road construction so when is that report coming can we complete it i think it is this later this summer it also goes in conjunction with julie one of the things that we part of the capital budget committee one of the things i pushed for as a member of that committee last year because look there's a endless list of sidewalk repairs i mean you can't walk in down any street in belmont and not say gee that's unsafe let's just be safe let's just be real about it right that's because of trees and tree roots and things of that nature and i think we have invested in sidewalk repair but we're investing more because of the override one thing that we thought was important is how do we decide which sidewalks to do right which are the worst in the district so we engaged a consultant report as you've heard it's being completed it'll inform the capital budget committee which informs which is part of the looks at the pavement management program and sidewalk repair in terms of how we spend i forget what we have each year now a couple of hundred grand yeah a couple of hundred how we spend our money on sidewalks now that being said at least this board and i'm sure the capital budget committee feel strongly that safe route to school sidewalks are probably a priority as well okay so bartlett i believe is on the blue route and we'll share with you the report yeah we're gonna tell you you just heard that yeah i just brought a few pictures for you to see great thank you so this is the general condition of the bartlett sidewalk yeah and this is thank you where it shows that they're not only taking out concrete sidewalks this is bartlett as well that's bartlett they're not only taking out concrete sidewalks but they are replacing them with asphalt so we're actually getting downgraded and then these are pictures of these are pictures of sherman there's a driveway apron that's cement and these are pictures that are looking north and south on sherman and you can see you're suggesting the sherman gets concrete and you guys get asphalt that's what i'm suggesting and also that sherman and bartlett well every neighborhood needs to be treated equally yes no matter what we do i mean i think that's only fair i don't know why we decide to do asphalt rather than sod i don't know that that's the final decision that's why could be temporary the asphalt could be temporary i don't know you can't take it out and not put something in so we need to we will it is a work in process i think the sidewalk needs be concrete not asphalt yeah it may be that that's just the temporary solution until they put the concrete in i don't know yeah so glenn's latest response was simply that the sidewalk money had already been spent two thousand and sixteen sidewalk money had already been spent and so that's just a general condition of two roads that were both on the two thousand and sixteen pavement management list okay thank you very much we appreciate it your son's a doll thanks julie how old is he eighteen months wow seems like only yesterday okay any other questions hi good morning i'm tammy calise i'm at twenty nine and twenty seven walnut street morning i just wanted to bring to your attention i had the police department do a speed study on walnut street last year between august 15th and september 30th and there were thirty eight thousand five hundred and one cars reported coming up and down walnut street during that time i'm not sure if you've spent much time on walnut street but cars drive extremely fast forty miles an hour was the maximum speed posted and while you know the 85th percentile was eighteen miles per hour i've noticed that cars significantly slowed down when during the day there are cars parked on the street and they have to slow down because the road narrows and the fact that i see a lot of people on their cell phones looking down texting on calls it makes me extremely worried with my fouryearold and sixyearold there're also fifteen other kids that live within either side of us on walnut street and i know that the police i appreciate the fact that there's limited budget for maintaining streets but i do work with cities and towns across the country doing this kind of work and painting striping the streets just to even give it a more narrow look has been shown to reduce speed and i just want walnut street to be considered and the sergeant told me last year that you know the treelined streets you know were settled and therefore it wasn't necessarily a problem i don't have a tree on my in front of my house and there's a number of other houses so i wouldn't necessarily say that walnut street's treelined but the fact that folks can travel the same speed on trapelo road as they can in front of my house on walnut street is a significant concern especially when there're fifteen young kids that live just within a small vicinity and that's just me knowing some of the neighbors i don't know kind of to the outside of the ends of walnut street how many kids live there appreciate it that's a lot of cars so two things one is we i don't know whether it's one of the we are moving towards what's the twenty five miles we are moving you understand this we the board sponsored an article for the last annual town meetings warrant we're moving to a twenty five mile per hour townwide which the town meeting has look i think part of the issue is enforcement you know we're kind of thin in the police department we'll certainly convey your concerns if you haven't already to the police chief and they're very attentive to neighbor concerns about speeding especially on streets where there are a lot of kids and they can move around those portable signs saying your speed is i mean there are things that they do yeah yeah i mean absolutely and i you know i appreciate the is it a cutthrough street for tra in the morning yeah we can go from where to where again cutting through trapelo where's it go to white street to white street yeah to belmont street it's a major bartlett street major problem and i appreciate that the speed limits being reduced but as you said as you said in order for that to work there has to be enforcement and i've never seen one cop sitting on my street ok we'll forward your concerns to the police chief have you taken it to the traffic advisory committee as well we've started that process that would probably be a good step to take as well we've noted this we'll let the police chief know i think speed and look traffic is a big deal in belmont we are a cutthrough community we've done any number of things i've been on the traffic advisory committee on this board we tried to narrow streets the reconstruction of pleasant street we believe has helped hopefully to change behavior i think the reconstruction of belmont center it's narrowed that even though we get complaints from a lot of residents that traffic is backed up we're hoping it just changes behavior not as many cars cut through but it's just a convenient community access points to cambridge into other parts you know watertown lexington it's a cutthrough town and that being said we need to do more around enforcement right and i think julie may have mentioned but butler is ninety five walktoschool whereas kind of the national average is twelve so so perhaps we can you know inform the chief about this concern and maybe they can ramp up for a couple you know people don't understand that there's tickets that are given out or there's postings or the police are there you know maybe it starts to change some behaviors it's probably one of the densest neighborhoods in town thank you yeah and just one final comment i you know giving notice to the police i think is important but again there are cheaper options to making those cars slow down like striping speed bumps or raised beds planters trees but that's why i'm suggesting the traffic advisory committee because they're more into the technical stuff than we are okay thank you thank you thanks for coming thanks all right any other questions yes i'll just chime in and for everything identify yourself please oh i'm sorry i'm azra nelson i'm a town meeting member for precinct five and i'm a neighbor on vincent avenue for many many years i walk to playground to school for over probably twelve years now daily on bartlett up and down and for everything that neighbor tammy can say about walnut it's pretty much the same vincent harriet alma everything every street especially with the traffic calming measures on trapelo which which is amazing i feel and it's wonderful to actually see how nicer and i'm always very amazed and thankful for that big project that we accomplished for all of those traffic calming measures that we have along trapelo and belmont corridor right now we have this huge issue of people essentially moving toward our little cutthrough street and bartlett is extremely afflicted it wears so many hats and i think that nobody mentioned that it's not just walktoschool street but it's also walktoplayground and huge field street we have a humongous amount of traffic just because of that and we lacking any signage there's not even a sign that there's a playground there people take straight shot from harriet all the way to maple terrace or further we don't have a lot of trees we don't have a really sense that it's a residential neighborhood i think its current condition invites speeding invites disrespect and i would urge you to consider more trees a little bit more curb appeal with having pedestrian buffers that was a big bone of contention with all the neighbors that we're essentially asphalting all the potential pedestrian buffers and asphalting essentially its previous condition we do not really doing any improvements and there's a zero pedestrian safety at this point even with this new reconstruction that happened yeah if we can put when we put that meeting together with mr clancy and all you'll be very very this is a good topic for that conversation thank you very much i appreciate that thanks for coming okay i think that's it right so thank you very much for your comments and input myron want to join us mike i know you're here for the search we're behind so i apologize for that morning lisa phyllis good morning adam myron nice to see you i'm doing well thank you identify yourself myron kassaraba i guess town meeting member precinct five and the town's representative to the logan community advisory committee and the massport community advisory committee so i think you got it in your packets we did an update so i'll try to be efficient since you've got a lot of things on your agenda not something not an anniversary to celebrate but this marks the fourth year since the flight path changes so it was in june you've been serving on this committee for four years now almost four years wow but the flight path changes actually happened in june of two thousand and thirteen so that's when we were rnav'd so to speak by the faa and so it's been an interesting time and i think that there's some good news but again these things take a long time when you've got the federal government involved so go through a couple of highlights just on the current events i think that senator brownsberger mentioned this at town meeting but if people have experienced a greater frequency of noise and overflights for the past four weeks and probably for the next two weeks it's because one of the major runways at logan's been closed it's been in the news there was a notice that went out too a press release that went out this week yeah i saw it i think everybody's got a copy of it but in case people weren't aware this runway handles about a third of the arrivals and so basically what's had to happen is that that traffic's been spread out to other runways the runway that affects belmont arlington cambridge medford somerville is typically used more in the winter months because of northwest winds and so we in june in may usually didn't get this level of a frequency so i think that that is i think they're gonna wrap that up by the 23rd hopefully and it should go back to sort of a more normal pattern so more traffic has been pushed to 33l because of right 33l and all other runways yeah but we've gotten more and it's just been at a time when people are outside windows are open you know we getting a lot of emails on this i mean i've noticed the planes more often in the morning oh yeah there's a lot more definitely coming over the town yeah but that should subside and you know the other thing is that june is a really busy vacation travel month the economy's doing well and boston's a very desirable destination and so i think you know we are going to see increased utilization of all runways i think you know it's become a i think we've got direct flights to sixty international destinations and they're just expanding that further and some of those flights the cathay pacific hong kong flight takes is scheduled to take off at one hundred and forty five in the morning ugh so so when do you have to get to the airport for that one no traffic right i've taken the nine o'clock flight to italy it's kind of cool that's an early morning flight yeah yeah that's the kind you don't sleep at all runway 4r has been closed you don't sleep you have to sleep on the plane there's no way you go to bed and then get up and try to that'd be crazy the time difference it'd be awful yeah so the second issue is to give the positive update on what's been going on with trying to reevaluate these concentrated flight paths that were implemented four years ago and i think as you know the efforts of myself some of the local cac reps the boston west fair skies group our legislators our congressional delegation finally after a couple of years got this issue up on people's radar so to speak and and it has resulted in this study called the rnav study which is being done by massport funded by mit and we saw the results first results of that back in february and they're encouraging from the perspective that there's a couple things that could be done to the procedure both a modification of the speed that airplanes are departing the mit guys figured out that at the current speed of two hundred or two hundred and twenty miles an hour you actually get airframe noise from the airplane in addition to noise from the engines and that if you slow down the speed to one hundred and eighty miles an hour that airframe noise goes away so that could be a way of again just by making a slight procedural change could decrease the but myron read that and he said that's interesting but is that are they still taking off over bel meaning that yeah that's still in takeoff mode flight path are they still take they're coming over belmont but are they still in takeoff mode even eight miles out i guess they would be right yeah it's not very far yeah yeah and then the second thing the more impactful one would be that they're looking at how they can mimic or go back to some sort of distribution or dispersion of the flights back to the way they used to be when we never had any problems so as think as you know you've seen the flight paths they go over medford and then they split onto these four rails three of which go over belmont the thought right now and they did this in charlotte is that they could go back to having the airplanes reach a certain altitude and at that point in time have air traffic control vector them more randomly which is essentially what we had isn't that zerosum other communities now start complaining that their airplanes are over there well i think the argument is going to be to some people like in east somerville or east cambridge that what you used they used to get these airplanes and now they're just coming back they're not getting them we're getting more of them now they're coming back and yeah but it will be a you know an issue especially to people who moved into those neighborhoods in the last four years that didn't have airplanes but i know in your office in davis square you've gotten a lot more impact in somerville that area of somerville versus the rest of somerville oh definitely well when i used to live in somerville years ago you could tell it was one thousand one hundred and forty five cause the fedex plane went over yeah you could go it was clockwork so i've actually posted this update up onto the belmont town town website one thousand one hundred and forty five pm at night at night i'm sorry adam i apologize no fedex was always the last plane out at night yeah and there's some links to the updates if residents want to take a look so are you getting a lot more so myron first of all thank you for your wonderful service and i know this has been a contentious issue and we do have congresswoman clarkson i've been involved here correct absolutely senator brownsberger and representative dave rogers have really helped out on this i mean it seems to be moving in some positive direction what where's the end here i mean what what we just it's just an ongoing continued dialogue and we certainly need to continue to have our voice here you mentioned in the memo that perhaps we need to think about whether we continue participating in what you're currently participating in in the cacs i mean is that well it's a complex it's a that's a where do we go from here complicated i know you hadn't decided that but what more can we do and where do we go well i think that anything that this study comes up with is going to have to be agreed to by the faa and so i think one step is keeping a close eye and i'll keep you informed on what happens with the study and if they come back and they say yeah we can do this dispersion but it's going to need to get approval we may need to weigh in to encourage them to obtain that approval but that's you know probably still a 12month 12to18month process that has to happen i think maybe the confusion between the cacs is is there's actually two of them and sort of the logan cac had been around for you know fifteen years working on this boston logan noise airport study which was a legislated group and it's been i wouldn't say replaced but the legislature formed something called the massport cac which is now really being looked upon as the goingforward agency and i'm the treasurer of the massport cac and it's been a struggle we basically have kind of built a state agency from scratch and are now getting to the point where you know we've made some proposals to massport we've got john nucci who is representing the massport cac on the massport board and so things are moving ahead and i think that massport in general is taking an attitude that using the massport cac you know i was in dc probably a month ago for a noiserelated i happened to be in dc for business and i attended a noise meeting with the faa and the industry the industry sees noise as the single biggest obstacle to aviation's growth so it's gone from sort of oh this is just a few people complaining and eventually they'll stop complaining to now on a national basis the industry realizes that dealing with this is something that is gonna prevent them from growing the industry so if they don't deal with it if they don't deal with it more people are flying i mean that's what people are doing it's more common to fly i think neighborhoods are getting fed up right yeah right and longterm i think that you know is it the equipment that's causing it as well changes to the equipment no the planes have gotten a lot quieter they have yeah i think it's to some extent awareness social media you know i think that before you were willing to live with the noise now you're saying you know what i really don't appreciate that i think taxes go up to a point where you start to expect things but if you start if you talk about and i said this to myron i was sitting outside of my yard and my mom was there and i said you know and i focused on the one issue and i said and all of a sudden i noticed all the planes going over so once i maybe became aware that this was an issue i said oh my god they're coming over like every fifteen seconds you know so i think people are just aware of it and complaining more and it is noise noise pollution right and it's important for your group it's important for the cac to keep pushing i mean i think it's a it's going to be a long slog is there but you know there and i think some of the things you just suggested here is positive developments and change but ultimately what really can be done i mean cause i mean we haven't we and other you know laguardia and other places where urban airports that have close proximity laguardia is adding new terminals i mean the airline industry is nothing but expanding yeah and you know in denver what they did was moved the airport you know twenty miles yeah they did outside of the city so we don't really have that option yeah we're not gonna be able to do that i mean we could look at you know i think worcester just jetblue just started flying to a couple more florida destinations out of worcester you know there's been sort of this regional is that a massport decision though myron or is that just the airline industry decision well massport can provide incentives but they can't dictate it's just like the cathay pacific flight at one hundred and forty five the faa rules are that if an airline shows up and they want a landing or a takeoff slot it can't be denied so it really comes down to the industry now we could all call up cathay pacific and say could you reschedule your one thousand one hundred and forty five am departure but they're doing it because of landing slots in hong kong or you know or whatever so i think that longer term i think there's you know there's some work being done on the health issues certainly for communities like east boston and winthrop and south boston where you know you're closer and there's greater impact but particulates and fumes and stuff so what more can we do myron i mean thank you for your efforts and hopefully they'll continue you're not getting worn out by it i think there's been some positive change since we've added our voice with you to the cac and so thank you for that is there more that this board can do to support the effort no i think that you know the key to what we've been able to accomplish i think has been to do it on a regional basis and so getting arlington cambridge watertown not just dave rogers but representative hecht and sean garballey over in arlington and other people i think has helped tremendously in as well as the citizens group the boston west fair skies that expanded from quiet belmont to being more encompassing so in general i think we've approached this in as responsible and you know the best way possible but there are no easy answers i mean it's a zerosum game as you said i've always kind of felt that way now we at one point i think wasn't it bobby riddon that that was helpful here now he's no longer he's now a police officer right in another town do you have any other folks that are supporting you within the town no i think that you know i guess i'll open it open up for there is no alternate on the massport cac phyllis has been serving as the town liaison okay with the logan cac and i think that again the logan cac may be disbanding so that may go away as a committee to be on i'm looking at probably one more year of trying to get the massport cac established but then would be happy for other residents that might be interested in serving i wonder adam whether the we so with that mind myron does it make sense to consider during this appointment process adding i don't know do we have is there a formal committee for this within belmont no there's a designee which is myron and then there's a staff person i wonder whether we need to which is me so yeah there's no alternate but the point i'm making is that if you're looking to transition in a year it'd be nice to have someone associated with this process be informed and it'd be an easier transition well you could just have people contact me ok all right and they can get involved the last thing that i'll mention is that we did try a little bit of an experiment i think david when he was here supported and phyllis helped out in spending five hundred to get a portable noise meter you know one of the things that you'd like to be able to do when somebody complains is to say well we're going to go measure what the exposure is what we learned is there's a reason why consultants make lots of money doing all of these noise measurements it's not as easy as just buying a meter and we got a good meter you can leave it outside and say oh there you go it has to do with matching the noise because it's not just airplanes but it's leaf blowers and traffic and other things and so there's a lot of sort of analysis work that needs to be done in order to make sense of that noise i'm still working with david waite who's a local belmont resident at seeing if there's a way that we can do more of a sample but it's harder than it we thought it was going to be difficult but it's even harder than we thought so i think that if the best thing is that if we want additional noise measurement it's probably to request that from massport and they can they can do that but thank you and thank you and i'll keep you thank you myron keep you informed appreciate your service you're doing a great job and even though it may seem frustrating keep at it we'll get there we'll get some improvement we're getting improvements all along even in four years adam i think we've seen through myron's efforts and others we've seen increased involvement from congress our congresswoman our state reps and they're listening you know to the communities yep just have to keep at it yes chair i would just like to mention that myron is rather humble about this but he really is one of the most knowledgeable and articulate spokespersons for this issue and that he's very wellrespected by the rest of the committee and his shoes will be hard to fill i agree i mean i've known myron for i've known you for a long time and i'm not surprised by those comments so thank you myron well thank you all right take care thank you myron okay now when we go home this weekend we're gonna notice all the planes coming overhead you got to stop flying places more oh my god i mean you know i don't know if you travel how much you travel but the airports are just packed every flight is packed there's more and more flights i think it's just expanding more people are flying today clearly anyway jessica could you please join us update on the town administrator search we are behind about thirty minutes almost so i apologize thank you for hanging in there you've been with us since early this morning all right so the rfp evaluation committee has completed its process the committee consisted of myself jessica porter the hr director glenn clancy community development director jay marcotte dpw director as well as brian higgins our hr generalist of the four proposals we received we are recommending the selectmen interview two of the firms municipal resources inc and grouxwhite consulting both of these what's the second one called grouxwhite and you're going to provide us copies of all four it's these two and then the other two we're giving you the two that we're recommending who were the four that presented proposals the other two firms were govhr and community paradigm it was determined in our review that those two firms did not meet the minimum criteria which was what the minimum criteria had to do with let's see here the rfp two years experience conducting searches in massachusetts and completion of five comprehensive town administrator manager searches in massachusetts and the signed statement of noncollusion so the other two firms fell short on seven hundred and twenty two which is the completion of five comprehensive manager searches within massachusetts so then we proceeded to fully rate the two that i've given to you for review mmhmm and again they came across as highly advantageous on all points of the comparative evaluation criteria so again we're recommending that the selectmen review the two proposals i did also give a copy to selectman williams before he departed earlier okay we can get copies of the other two as well i mean we can provide you copies of the other two but they're not being considered i know they're not but i wouldn't mind seeing the other two i know you circulated that article from the municipal association magazine where they talked about the process and i don't want to run afoul of the rules mr chairman so that's sort of the preliminary yeah here the preliminary search committee which is not supposed to be us which i guess was you right we've completed our process so i mean technically you can look at them although there's really no way we can consider them given that they didn't i'm not saying that we should i just would like to be informed and i read the article as well i hear you and i want to answer that i just don't want there to be an appearance of any impropriety yeah i saw the article i didn't understand and i appreciate you sharing it but i was trying to understand the point of getting it i don't think there's anything that we've done or will do and had done in the past that in any way violates any of the sort of things that were outlined well we clearly have not no it was just it was timely is essentially where that came from and i just thought it was worth sharing i appreciate it thank you so again we would like to like i said we're recommending these two firms for interview by the board of selectmen i know there was a date circulated to try to get that set up and i've accepted the date are these proposals fee blind at this point we have opened the price proposals but they're not part of this proposal here no you don't have the pricing information we don't know the cost when we interview these candidates these firms will we know the cost um i mean phyllis i'll defer to you in terms of disclosing the price at this point i'm kind of of the mindset i'd rather have the selectmen kind of go through everything do the interview price wouldn't be a consideration it will be once you complete everything yeah but we choose one over the other and find out that one is double the price of the other one if it's a close call how do we the two prices take that into consideration are comparable on the two proposals why wouldn't we want to know price in advance well the request for proposal process is that you evaluate them you interview them and then that's the last part that you look at so if you look at it but if we choose one and we don't know the price and understand that their price is substantially higher than we're not going to choose them until we know the price we just have to right interview them first and then get the price and rank them and then you would begin negotiations okay that's my point so we'll get we'll know the price before you oh yes before you make the decision yes you would rank them i'll disclose the pricing one and two and then you would begin negotiating the price with the first one if you didn't reach an agreement that you thought was acceptable oh no no no hang on for a minute no i think price has to be part of the evaluation it will be at the but you just said to me i rank em one and two then negotiate price but i'd like to understand price as well as part of the evaluation okay but you only rank that is that not appropriate it's the last factor you'll just be ranking them based on the interview only adam i mean if i'm gonna make a decision on no no i'm not talking about making that decision if they're equal in sort of experience and skill and i might like one more than the other barely you know slightly i want to know what the price issue what the price is what the scope of the service is in terms of that price as well so you would rank them then you would look at the pricing and then you could determine if you why would i rank them before i had the pricing because the that doesn't make any sense to me the whole purpose of a request for proposal is to get the proposal and to rank them not based on cost and then if you that is the statutory really procurement for the request for proposal as opposed to an invitation to bid if one is double the cost of the second one they go one and two then what do i do i'd like to yeah go ahead please okay so the process is that you would open the you would rank them and then you would then you can look at the pricing if in fact you and it is a factor in terms of making your final decision because if you if one price is exponentially higher than the other and it's for the same service then you would have and you then you have the option of going with the second firm because the pricing is a factor but it's the last factor it's not the first factor we're hearing the prices are comparable right yeah they're so it's irrelevant not so wildly apart on these two well but here's the other point though and then you would be required to defend if you chose i'm not completely the price that's higher i'm not trying to be difficult i'm not completely understanding why the board can't know price at all until the end so i'm a little concerned about that i don't know why we wouldn't be why that would not be shared with us i think i would always take that into consideration that is especially if the firms are comparable you know in one and then with the comparable prices but what's the cost yup right i would offer to you that is the same process that you is that chapter 30b yes that is the same process that you followed with regard to selection of the firm that you chose for the community path as well it's just the process it's not the final de we didn't know the price on pare versus until the end until you ranked them you picked your first ranking if those the rules are the rules i don't necessarily have to like it if those are the rules those are the rules you interviewed it's very similar to this it's almost identical if you hadn't interviewed is the procurement rules that when we put send out an rfp the board is completely blind to price then we get to select the path right you know the price we don't we're not informed at all we're the ones right because that make the decision the evaluation committee then we decide has completed its process based on the interviews who we grade then after that we get the pricing and then we vote so you can take the price no we've we voted but you haven't picked one it's just the process you've just ranked them based on an interview you haven't voted on who you're going to hire right you vote that based upon knowing the price too the whole package so it's a multistep thing it's what it sounds like to me i don't i'm not an expert at these things but i know you are so i just think it's better for the board to kind of look at these you know objectively without having the price in mind as you do your review go into the interviews then that will be all part of it and that's part of procurement law yes yeah i mean again the evaluation committee has done the full evaluation which is why we're able so just as you did for the community path you rank them one and two and three and then one and two and then we opened the price proposals we looked at them we were able to negotiate a price that was great for the number one firm based on the process to that point and then if we can't and then we move forward then what do we do at that point and that point then you would go to the second person or throw them both out yeah the so so the so that and then you know we've talked before and you informed us that you know we also have they did not submit a proposal the collins group right yes they decided not to propose they didn't propose but they did send us an information and i don't know what you call it they sent us the scope of services right yes they sent the tour email so i've read it we have it it's a public document they've done work within the state they didn't submit here in order for us we could decide to then go through this process then through your process look at these firms understand price and decide we're not gonna move forward either one and then switch over to the collins center well as you recall when we before you issued the second rfp the one that you got these responses to that was one of the options that was presented to you was that you could go directly to the collins group without doing a request for proposal and the board elected to do another request for proposal that's right so we it was also sent to the collins group and they declined to submit a proposal to you so they're not in that process okay so again my question is we could decide not to move forward either one of these final two candidate firms and they if you have a reason to do that absolutely what does that mean well it means that when you issue a request for proposal if you find that no proposals meet your criteria then you can elect not to you can throw them out again okay but the issue is that you've got a process that's in place that's designed to give everyone a fair opportunity to under the same rules to submit a proposal okay and so you've got four firms that elected to participate in that process and one firm who elected not to and so you would need to go through the process and determine whether one of those firms meet your criteria they clearly have met the minimum criteria and so and they met if you're unable to negotiate pricing and finalize we would have to decide as a board not to move forward with either one right and again the evaluation committee rated both of these proposals highly advantageous on all of the comparable criteria so i mean it would be somewhat challenging i would think for the board of selectmen to reject both of them well one of the things that you see with the collins center they have extensive experience they've been involved in dozens and dozens of searches i know they chose not to not to submit a proposal it's too bad they've made it clear that they're not subject to chapter 30b yeah i was disappointed they didn't submit it but that being said i don't think it for me at least excludes them for consideration at some point if in fact we decide or i decide that neither one of these firms matches the same experience level as the collins center i think we review them and we see what we have i mean we may like one of these firms thank you jessica so thank you for the process it was not can you i don't remember now which one which firm which is one of the last two finalists either one of them were involved in the cambridge search no hr gov was the firm that did the cambridge search they didn't reapply they did but they didn't meet the minimum criteria they didn't have five searches so hr gov was the cambridge and so they weren't right selected okay okay in terms of experience we have we'll have that in the prop we can look through that it's all in here i think you'll find that both of these firms if they've met the references and all of that yeah and resums yeah we've checked okay references we may like one of these two quite well in which case i'm not saying we wouldn't so it doesn't it was keep an open mind we'll see what we have i'm keeping an open mind i'm not saying you're not okay so what's the format for the interview i mean i've accepted it is it just sort of you're going to provide guidance on questions we ask we can definitely give some guidance on questions to ask that might be helpful cause we're going to go all over the map here right so i think what we'll do is give some guidelines in terms of questions that would be asked of both firms and then some questions of course might be a little off the map because there'll be specific to the but i know one of the things individual proposals that we did on pare i think on the cpiac you could help me understand this is that we were very careful to ensure that we asked the same questions right of the same right so again we'll be and warrant could do that it'll be the same questions as a guideline for both but again there might be specific questions that you have for each firm based on things within their respective proposals you'd have representatives so those things would have to be of the team that would be working yes mmhmm i think what's important is we want to meet the team members absolutely that'd be working on this yes they would they would be here for the interviews that's anything else adam yep no i mean ok so what's the schedule we're gonna be doing the interviews soon two weeks we were looking at i think the 26th i accepted it yeah or 27th of june i accepted it too okay i don't know what the date was you don't mind sharing the other two i know it was the last week of june to give them to us i think it just informs me i'd like to read all four of them sure i know that you know we're going with these two june 27th i've read the collins center and so we'll think about it you know it was june 27th what's the timeframe to award a contract yeah i mean i think so we can rank em then we have to meet again to decide on what we're gonna do right we're not going to meet decide that day i mean in theory you could unless you wanted more time to digest that but in theory you could have the interviews and then have a discussion afterwards i don't think i'm gonna get the price information be in a position to decide immediately that day you know you wouldn't deliberate your decision in front of them you would after the conclusion of the interviews just as the pare yeah we wouldn't have to the decision with regard to the community path we had a subsequent meeting didn't we i think we did okay i think we'd have to right right and pa so we can ask susan to send out a meeting notice that week if you want i won't be here but we'll interview the two and we'll rank them and we'll have to meet to discuss and vote jessica can convene your meeting i thought you we're we were trying to be careful about making certain that she led this effort which is she is leading this effort that was my point i'm not here so we'll have susan and jessica said that i mean i'm not here i wouldn't be if i was here you're not physically in belmont anyway all right mike did you have any comments mike widmer town moderator by way of context i have done a lot of recruiting in my career i ran hr for a major fortune three hundred company for several years yup and then obviously i've been involved for the last quarter century in municipal affairs state and municipal affairs and so forth and so i just want to put in a word for the collins center they have done vastly more searches than any company that in massachusetts for this kind of position they were the they worked with the town of belmont the last two times i was on the search committee that the most recent time that brought david kale here and so i worked closely with them and they were superb and i know the collins center from my work at mass taxpayers foundation and other capacities so they're a thoroughly professional operation they served belmont very well in the last two searches they're more experienced than any other firm and they're probably the cheapest so when you put all of that they in the proposal they have a dollar amount in their proposal including a reduction for belmont so when you put all of that together i don't know why we would not pick collins center and i frankly think it would be a serious mistake if we did not okay thank you mike appreciate your input thank you anything further jessica no that was all i had okay great thanks for your efforts appreciate it please thank glenn jay and brian for their involvement as well absolutely thank you thank you thanks for helping thanks for hanging in there you've been here since eight it's all good it's my job i appreciate it have a great weekend you too thank you thank you for a second okay phyllis discussion related to lottery and keno monitors that item has been moved to the agenda for the 26th after the trash discussion oh it has okay the informational presentation on the trash is at six until seven thirty okay we're moving this item george hall will be there to inform us about what's taking place i read his memo that's helpful yes his memo was that no i understand the litigation is the appeal that's taking place right before the lottery so we're going to expand on that the chair we don't have any information on that other than what you have there has been no discussion by the so the is the discussion on the 26th just about this or is there a broader discussion the discussion on the 26th is also with regard to your consideration that you look at the our current policy as it relates to yeah the policy regarding liquor licensing from the board regarding the lottery sales by license holders who are authorized to sell alcohol and then i wanted to and i wanted to revisit the liquor licensing regulations anyway as you noted about requiring that people be paid applicants be paid up with the town and the light department and that the notice for provision i know this is your area so but this is the lottery sales for places that have liquor it's just one of several things i know i think we really need to look at it i know that we've gotten what's the gentlemen from the michael sweeney yes you had expressed a lot of concern about our decisionmaking on that so right and when he appeared before you in april your commitment was that you would respond to him with regard to your policy discussions by the end of june and i don't think the monitors are tied to liquor licensing after town meeting it's separate issues perhaps they are in our minds yes yeah yeah exactly okay so based on your commitment to give a response to them with regard to the lottery sales in by those establishments that have liquor licenses you had committed that you would get back to him by the end of june after town meeting and so we're trying to get this on the 26th before you so that you can okay all right at least have more information to them would it be possible i don't know if you mind if it would be possible to get a to draft or have george hall or whoever would draft the revised regulations for the liquor to add the lottery language so at least we have something in front of us um sure or strike the prohibition or whatever the lan whatever the language would be i don't think we have specific pro i don't think it's in the regulations i think it was yeah it wasn't a consideration by the board of selectmen it was just a board consideration i thought it was in the rules i thought it was in the liquor rules that you couldn't all right well therein lies another issue but all right you know and i think you're right adam i think you know part of i mean to me the frustration i've had with our licensing process is that it's a lot of distraction and perhaps that's fine but we seem to just have you know we came up with this position and appointed you just as part of a meeting and then it became somewhat you know that's the condition we're going to apply even though it's not part of any regulation right right it's like we've been applying that you have to be paid up with the town but it's not written in the rules in any way and i think it has to be yeah and i think you had suggested and i support this that we need to do a rewrite on that to provide more guidance to the licensing board that serves the board of selectmen serving as the licensing board in terms of how we award liquor licenses yeah it's like the committee appointment rules too find it in other communities and somerville in particular they have specific rules oh yeah they've got a book on the rules i'm not suggesting we go to that extreme but but we need something more formal yeah yeah yeah absolutely great you have a comment no i just shivered i got cold all of a sudden like eighty out okay so so under the ten yes submit it so you can look at that we will have a copy thank you phyllis of the regulations in the book i think that the follow up was with regard to updating the lottery with i know they're very concerned on our process on the considerations about that particular matter with regard to them and there is still work needed to be done with regard to the regulations i know that that's an issue for all of you if you want to send it to me i could mark it up so it's the current regulation there's an expansion of awarding license component that you're going to look at perhaps adam but is there a more immediate decision on the moratorium we've placed on retail sales of alcohol and not selling tobacco and lottery i don't think the tobacco plays into it do we need the regulations in place and vote on that before we can reconsider that position or can we reconsider that position and then put the regulations in place we could do it we could do it piecemeal if there's a time consideration on the lottery piece which it sounds like there is from the state level we could certainly if we decided to undo the prohibition on liquor establishments also selling lottery tickets the tobacco we're going to leave that prohibition in place i would assume and then we could go back and revisit some of the other stuff i've been talking about i'm less concerned about the tobacco prohibition than i am about the lottery or we could go back and do it all together yeah okay so i think that the intent was that you would get back to them and then there would still be a need to make adjustments prior to making a change allowing those establishments to resume or elect to have the with lottery how can we do that i think what george had suggested to you when this came up before was that it would be something that you would make the decision on and then the implementation could take place in december when the renewals came before you and that that's when that would allow establishments to know how they would want to consider this for their business as we renew the licenses i think that makes sense then the state would also know that we'd taken some action even though the implementation might have to wait a little bit right all right and i think you could tell the state if they asked that we're committing to take this issue up i mean i've been trying to get it on the agenda for a while so right yeah i mean it's just the town meeting sort of has taken a lot of our time yes it's an evolved process so excuse me phyllis did you say that these agenda items will be for june twenty six yes at seven hundred and thirty got it on the agenda that's been posted got it okay a report in so i just wanted to mention also on monday there we're going to be looking at asking you to look at the there's a loading zone there are loading zones on leonard street and they are currently posted for dual usage i saw that it's not working which is yeah what's the plan we thought that was a good plan and thirty tickets given out in a month that's a lot we talked about this in our last one of the meetings we're having some glitches what do we do the loading zone that was a wonderful idea because we can't have trucks doubleparking on leonard street we're not going back to that so we're gonna discuss that on the 19th i won't be here you know that i know but we discussed that at one of the meetings we had at the high school about just making it but we didn't do about that we didn't vote on it but make it just a loading just make it a loading zone no parking period so there's no confusion that was the suggestion yeah double parking trucks on leonard street is not the solution i would just throw my two cents in because i won't be here on monday so the so that item is coming for you to consider having that just be a loading zone so adam you think that and i agree that i know it reduces two spots right is it two spots something like that having a loading zone having it painted that no parking at all so it's clear it's clearly load because the problem is we're trying to make it every give please everybody and it's pleasing nobody what i'd suggest as well phyllis is if it's the loading zone then it's the loading zone which means that it's the only place you unload i think that is the concern and that's why there are people who are frustrated because they parked there and they you have to have enforcement by the police of trucks that double park anywhere on leonard street during the day it has to be zero tolerance that's an excellent point please pass that along i know what they're doing their best and you know i'm not suggesting they're not doing this but it can't be any sort of consideration oh i'm just dropping something off if a truck double parks they get a ticket i mean if yeah if if you're i think the point being if we're going to give up permanently two parking spaces for loading then that's where they doublepark they get they have to load a ticket i don't care if it's five minutes they get a ticket i think it's confusing to people and so we thought it was a good idea it's confusing to people that park there but not to the trucks the merchants should be telling their vendors that there is a loading zone and you have to unload then i don't know why they have to come in the middle of the day or you know when there's a lot of traffic come early in the morning or late at night and unload in the loading zone that's it yeah i've seen trucks there double parking when i'm out there it has to stop okay so phyllis i'm fine with what you're recommending but i won't be here on monday well it's going to come yeah yeah well if the recommendation is to move towards just a straight loading zone straight loading zone we're asking you to consider that i would support that but after we paint it and all that other you know right yeah oh yeah whatever regulations require absolutely anything else okay no we talked about the committees i think that's it that it thank you we have minutes i don't think any boarder selectman i can't vote on them because they're prior to my time then let's wait on the liaison report i don't have anything i was hoping to have something today i don't know where we are on the cpiac and the community path and whether there are public meetings that are coming up i know they they said they were gonna come back to the selectmen with their options in the summer and i guess here we are i'll follow up with them and have a report out in the next meeting i will be at in terms of cpiac in terms of you know where we stand yeah i think they're sort of turning coming at the middle of all of our activity around town meeting got in the middle of sort of trying to continue to move that forward so we that is one of the things we carry on your agenda and we'll we to keep it in front of us yup and so we will try and schedule a time when it's valuable to have an update by them okay cool to let you know did you want to speak about oh i've done two the belmont high school building committee we met yesterday and we've been talking about updating getting the website live there's going to be a new website for the high school building committee to inform the public so they can see where we are and to be a place to post news and updates and plans as we get them and that will be coming up live shortly probably in the next few weeks we talked about outreach and pr and having public meetings to gather information we're also i'm working with the opm we got our rankings they interviewed them there was a subcommittee that's interviewing the architects and they came in and ranked the architects and they knocked out some of them and they have it down to four and then the interviews are going to take place and then an architect will be chosen i think they're looking in the next couple of weeks to wrap that up yeah the msba convened their board their meeting earlier this week tuesday and that's how the we have three designees who are on that group of with twelve representatives from the msba so pretty much the msba what is their does hiring their architect makes sense when are final winner configuration decisions finally made well that's going to be part of the whole feasibility study which once we get the architect on board then the feasibility study gets done what is the timeframe you're away there are all these modules from the state i don't remember from the msba they're all dictated deadlines okay the feasibility study will have to require all three grade configurations that were in the pot the enrollment report that you had signed when you were chair and then there were will also be three configurations within each of those to look at renovation renovation and and then there'd be a final recommendation by the the building committee to msba in terms of configuration at some point postfeasibilitystudy the feasibility study is due within a timeframe prescribed by the msba so there're gonna be nine configurations basically that we're gonna have based on three grade configurations and then three configurations as to whether it's a renovation renovation and addition or total rebuild of a new building so and those all three of those are for each of the grade configurations so they're gonna be nine evaluations to do and then evaluate so there's work to be done and then also the community preservation committee we met also this week and we talked about setting up the public hearings public meetings rather that we're going to be having to get ideas and to find out what people want and to get comment and we also i was trying to advocate more for what we're trying and i think the committees likes to do this to outreach more to get a wider range of applications in for community preservation funding so that we have a larger pool to choose from in each of the categories or whether we decide there's an ability to rather just pool save some of the money each year rather than spend it all and there seems to be some desire to do that i know we talked about that in the warrant committee as well that just because we have the cpa money we don't have to spend all of it every year we can save it and then we'll have a big pool when something big comes along that we want to do yeah i agree with that so i think but those are all things under discussion okay that was like a lot of work adam thank you well it's what we ran for right yeah anyway anything further all right motion to adjourn second all in favor aye thank you phyllis