premise: and later on well eight to nine o'clock some other ones would show up and that puts people there at the five o'clock time frame and it really worked out well and then then of course they came long and sanctioned it and and actually made it a little worse in that they said they didn't want any of us starting before six thirty so uh it wasn't too much of a blow but uh the people that we were interfacing with didn't like that too well
hypothesis: the people we were interfacing with were not fans of our methods.