Northern Times. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-10-20 00:00:00

and Heap's sugar houses, Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Com pany. and Great Howard street, are, or can all be supplied direct from the fire mains, by arranging the valves. Wave-tree, Woolten, and West Derby, ca - i be snppliel from Winthor Sta ion, tiverton from Aniley stre.t or Deyon3liire place, Bootle and Vir.titt,n from B ,, cttle Station, Aigburth a3tl Higu PArk from Park Station or re:eryeir. Thera i, only tie 36in main from Grenn lane to Kennington reservoir for be-h P;ke and well water to ms 3 through. but th s might be got over by join ng the two largi, engnes to the 24in main wh eh runs from Green lane to Andley street reservoir, and allowed to pass through gin main from Auit!ey street to Present road by w Hill, aid also through Nifoaa street 7in main to London road, or by hying an ISin main from Audiey street to Pre.cot road. The ?lin main in Edge lino runs from Pre-cot roicl, Old Swan, to Windsor station. The er, s stree's down town are pr:ncipally commanded by five branehea from the dra maine, toy, and bott.m. The sewer branches are all prin?..pally from the fire main,. The bre xerys are principaly all supplied from the service mains, but in many ea es a cm.ili main or lead pipe would supply them. Ashton street and St. Andrew's street have also fire mains, and the Royal Infirmary and Pig Market are s ipplial by them. Pembroke place fire mains and two services. Clarence street main and services not a7tered. Part of Monnt Pleasant main and services not altered. Windsor tree'. 15in main, whi,.ll runs from Parlismert street to High Park re,eivoir. Clement street 11in m,in from Vauxhall road to Great Howard street, not finished. Mount street min and Eer v i :es. Great Oxford street main and service. Elizabeth street 121 n ma'n and service. Fa'k, er street ma'n end se vice. Parr street, Gradwell street fire main and services. The manufa tories are pri• cipL ly snnpli:d from tho service m tin, but in many striAts might be joined to ttie fire main. A few levlin - ; mains woo'd bt necessary to take the service mains from the (Ire mains, ,shich ars joined at certain points. If that document were correct, he thought there was no difficulty whatever in having the public supplied with the two kinds of water, so far, at lea t, as the pipes would permit of their being used for the purpose, and if that were so, he th ought the Water Committee had not carried out the spirit, although they might have carried out the letter, of the resolution passed by the Council. It was possible that by the present piping every tenement of the whole town could not be supplied with both the waters, but the memorandum from which he had quoted showed thas the majority of the streets—all the leading thoroughfares—had two lines of pipes at least. Even if every tenement we-e to be supplied, the cost, he contended, would not, be what had been stated in the Council, and which appeared to have alarmed everybody—something like a quarter of a million. He thought the Council ought to have a detaile 1 tea ement from the Water Committee of the streets wh ch had a duplica e line of pipes, and how far the duplicate line of pipes might be made available to the repuirements ot rhe tenantry of the houses, if they felt dis posed to avail of them. The Chairman of the Water Com mittee himself had admitted as much whEn he used the words that the public had a right to expect at the hands of the Water Committee a supply which would be satisfactory to them, either by a double row of ma ns or by a different arrangement of he present mains. What was to be un ders ood by a differeht arrangement of the present mains? If there were not two lines of pipes at p esent in some of the streete,at least there could be no different arrangement to give a supply of the two waters. It was only on the surmise that there were two lines of pipes in the streets that the public could be supplied with the two kinds of w „ter. In answer to the question why this was not done, the chairman of the Water Committee had replied that it was because they were compelled, by act of parliament, to keep up a constant supply lest, in case of a fire. there snou'd be any deficiency of water. When he was further asked the question, whether this requirement had been hitherto complied with, he replied that it was not to be expected the chairman of the Water Committee, or the members, should know what pipes were full or what were not. Now, he did not wish to say one word disparaging to the committee, bit he did think that answer was not such an answer as the Council had a right to expect. He thought if it was because of the act of parliament contain ing such an imperative requirement that the consumers of the water would not have their desires complied with, the Council had, su - ely a right to know whether the act of parliament had been complied with. He did not believe that it had been. He did not desire to advocate there that an act of parliament should be stmlously evaded ; bat when the Council were told that the requirements of the inhabitants could not be complied with, because of a stringent clause in the act of parliament, they had a right to know whether that clause had been con formed to or not, and they had a right to infer from the answer of the chairman of the committee, that it had not been complied with. There cou'd be no doubt, that if it had been, the chairman would have answered the question without any hesitation. Mr. Jeffery concluded by moving as an amendment h—" That Ihe r solutions of the com mittee be not confirmed, but that the Council be informed in dsta 1 through what streets duplicate or more lines of mains are now laid down, and the connection with other mains, and the sources of supply ; and chewing also those districts of the borough in which there is now only one of these mains, end the mileage of mains in each case " Mr. Srrre seconded the amendment, reserving what rem -rke he had to make to a further stage of the debate Mr. Alderman BENNETT suggrated that the samples of water taken from the diffieren; potions of the works, and which were in the adjoining room, should be brought into the Council Chamber. They consisted of eight r ten bottles of water, and sho wed the state of the water in the month of last August, and also early in October. The Council could then judge whether it was poe ible toimprove the water, an could argue more correctly from observatirn than from the mere statement of any gentleman. He begged to move that the samples be brought in. Mr. W. P. JEFFREYS seconded the motion. Mr. W EARL% hoped they would bring their " jelly" in too. (Laugh- er.) The MAYOR observed that it would be more convenient for gentlemen to go into the adjoining room and inspect the samples there, than have them brought into the Chamber. The TOWN CLERK decided that the motion cou'd not be put, another motion being already before the Counc:l. Mr. HoeNne asked if the eNct of Mr. Jeffrey's amend ment would be to suspend the operations that were now taking Hue for filtering the water ? The Tows( CLERK replied that it would have that effect Me Hoowns said, that he had no objection to the return asked for by Mr. Jeffery, but at the same time he should support the resolutions and proceadirgs of the We er Committee. Mr. Jeffery would lead them to suppose that he was the only party who was anxious to give the people of the town a supply of pare spring water. So far from that being the case, it was the anxious wish of the Water Committee for the last two months to supply the largest possible supply of spring water, and for that purpose they had met several times. He himself moved a resolution in the cornmitte some time ago, requesting that all the spring water drawn from the wells should be given entire to the inhabitants, and that at one of the reservoirs at Kensington, which was attached to the second reservoir by pipes, there should be placed a plug and stop-cock ; and thus, while one was used for the supply of spring water to the innati-ante, the other might be kept full of Rivington water in case of fire, and used for no other purpose. The committee were most anxious to adopt that course, but Mr. Duncan, who was present, told them that it was altogether impracticable. Upon hat information the ccmmittee based the resolutions now submitted to the Council, and in which they declared, on the authority of Mr. Duncan. that it was impossible to give a supply of spring water in that way. He agreed with Mr. Jeffery that it was desirable they should have the supply, and he believed that, with a little management and ingenuity, it could be done. (Pear, hear.) His anxiety was that it shosld be done, and it was also the anxiety of every member of the committee. (Hear, hear) It should nut go out of doors that the Water committee were indifferent to the interests of the inhabi• tents, and that there were only two gentlemen in the Council who had consideration for the health and comfort of the town. When Mr. Duncan declared that it was imp-act cable to give the spring water in the way the committee desired i , the question then arose, what other course were they to adopt? Upon inquiry and examination, they found that two courses presented themselves - either to discolourize the water by a process of re-eltration at Rivington or at home, or if their financial position allowed it to lay down a second line of pipes. Mr, Duncan reported that he was able, by filtration, to make the water bright ' and pure Mr. Ha wksley also attonded the committee, and satisfied their minds that by re-filtration, he could in a great measure make the water clear and pleasant. They had new the water before them, as fietered by Mr. Duncan, and if all the water could be produced of that quality, at a cheap expense, by charcoal filtration, they ware bland, as ressoneb'e men, to try that. course. (Hear, hear.) There could be no d oubt that Mr. Spencer's report was a very talented one, and that he was a gentlemen well verged on questions of water. He was employed by government r.• the purpose of examining waters of large towns as to their qualities of goodness or badness, and he, who was a man of authority on the question, toll them that the Riving - on could be dieceulorised. If that could be done, and he had not the slightest reason to doubt it, the Council were bound, before they went to the expense a double line of pipes, to adopt every means in their power to discolourise the water, because, as its healthiness could not be que,tioned, its colour alone could be ob• jetted to. Mr. Alderman PARKER observed that two months age, Mr. Hodson held very different opinions and expressed them in the Council. he works were commenced in 1848, and it was only two months ago that this new light, as to the objectionable character of the water, broke on the committee. He recollected when learned gentlemen, wit) had got thousands of p mends for the information, told them that 23,000,000 gallons of water per week was the most that could be obtained from the red sand-stone, and yet now they got 47,000,000 gallons per week from those very spring-s. (Hear, hear) He was glad that the com mittee were now changing their mind on the subject, and that they were anxious to give the inhabitants as much sprir,g water as prssible. (Hear, hear.) Mr. GRAVES said : Mr. Mayor, I had hoped, considering that the deliberations on this question commenced last April that to-day, when the question is matured and fit for decision, we should have had put before us one or other of the best remedies for meeting thin difficulty. The Wa'er Committee have come ferward with what in their opinion is best for meeting this question under all circumstances. I had hoped that the gentlemen who h too taken an opposite view would have come forward with something more direct —with some more pr :rapt and applicable a remedy to the disease, that that coetaired in the amendment which I have heard read. (Hear, hear.) That amendment seeks for a re urn which the engineer can give at any time that be is asked for. It is a return which we shall be glad to hive before us, but I cannot see why that should be brought forward to-day, in opposition to the recommendation of the Water Committee. The question is one which ought to be settled before the evening closes (Hear, hear.) Mr. Jeffery usually brings a straigh - forward candour to bear on those questions, when he takes them up, but on this occasion he has not met the question in the way in which it ought to he met before the Council. The question will resolve itself into this—whether we shall re-filter the Rivingten water, or lay down a second set of pipes? (Hear, bear) When it first became my duty to take part in the proceedings of the Water Committee, I found that a doubt w s beginning to creep into it, that the Rivington water was not likely to be as successful as was at first hoped. I accordingly first satisfied myself that the water, as being then distributed, was not of an unwh desome nature, and I satisfied myself on that point, by taking the sanitary statistics as my guide. I had also the opinion of very eminent medical men on the subject, and I th ught I was safe in taking the side of time, rather than coma to a hasty conclusion upon so important a question Time has justified me in that course, and enables me now to speak with some confidence in the matter. I think that the Riving'on scheme has answered the etpectations of its promoters in giving to the town an ample and abundant supply of water. (Hear, hear.) I have in my hand a return of the last three years ; and I find that in this year, estimating to the end of the year for what has occurred up to the present time, there have been only 1,516 complaints as to the quantity of water. In 1856, I find th t these complaints amounted to 3,732 ; and, in 1855, to 5,919. I think, then, that the inference is this—that our supply of water his been nearly ample for the wants of the teen—(hear, hear)—bat I regret to state that, in point of quality, I don't think that the Pike scheme has answered what the promoters of that scheme originally contemplated. (Haar, hoar.) Many schemes hate been brought forward to deal with this ; but there are four which deserve prominent and particular attention. Ode is the intermittent supply. That at first appea-ed simple, but when we looked into it we found it surrounded with difficulties. Our engineers has also reported on its impracticability, on the ground that if you discharge your pipes before you take in the other supply you allow to run to waste 4.000,000 gallons of water daily, and if, on the other hand, you all rw the water . ,to remain mixed in the pipes, you fail in the object in view. The second was the falling back upon the old system of the sandstone water for dietetic, and the Riv ng on water for other purposes ; bat, as Mr. Hodson has told us, there is the difficulty in connection with this schema of keeph3g the mains charged with a constant supply, and the failure of which would render the Council liable, in else of a fire, to an amount which you can scarcely estimate. Tile Water Committee, however, have treated this question on broader grounds. ri hey consider it their duty to deal out to the tows that which every community has a right to demand—the most plentiful supply of water that they can give. (Hear, hear) The sanitary con dition of the town, and the social welfare of the people depends upon that ample supply being given. Now, from the sandstone water, we have haa an avepags supply of 45,000,000 gallons per week, but we have been deliverarg to the town for the last nine months, an average of 70,000,000 gallons per week, and in August 86 000,000 gallens. Now, I ask you, except for a temporary purpose, or while you are trying another scheme, would you be justified in falling back upon such a supply as 45 000,000 gallons per week ? We then coma to the bolder course of a double set of pipes, which has this merit, that it meets the difficulty at the root. (Hear, hear.) So anxious were the Water Committee to endeavour to settle the question, this vexed question, to hush up con flicting opinions out of deers, that they reserved their most anxious consideration for that point ; and I do b lieve that if they could have seen their way clearly in th • point of finance, if they could have seen their way how t ) raise money for carrying on the work without oppress ing the town, or borrowing money which they had not the means of repaying, that there wculd have been many advocates for that scheme. (Hear, hear). I do hope, there fore, that in dealing with this question, gentlemen who may advocate a second line of pipes, will endeavour to satisfy the Council upon this most important point. I do not refer to the scheme of skeleton pipes, which has been suggested by Mr. Bennett, consisting of 27 miles, at a cost of some £40,000, because it is impracticable, inasmuch as we are told we would be compelled to supply the out. townships, and the tows of Prescot, with a similar quality to that which we use ourselves. You must therefore boldly repels with the large and comprehensive scheme of a double set of pipes, numbering 170 miles, and costing £165,000; and, gentlemen, when I tell you that than ex penditure will be asked for simply to supply one per cant, of the total consumption of the town Liverpool the esti mated quantity for table pirpos 's being 100 000 gallons daily—you will ace how important is the subject. Waite these plans were being discussed in the Water Committee, we had, as you are all aware, gentlemen of high chemical repute engaged in making expetiments upon the possib lity of producing the water free of the colour which is the great objection to the Riving'on water ; and although they have failed to pro 'uce, within the time allotted by the Council, a result upon which the Water Committee felt justified in acting, yet they have produced a report wldch has fully confirmed the views of the Water Committee, that the Rivington water is capable, by filtration, of having the objection cf colour entirely removed. That report is before you to-day, and I think I am not far wring in saying that, in the minds of impartial men, it will be received with confidence. (Hear, hear ) In the meantime, our own engineer has, by a most simple process, produced a result so satisfactory, so convincing, that the Water Committee have felt justified in passing, upon that result, the recommendations which have been placed befo a you this day. I have seen the water in the next room which has undergone this simple process, and I can see no difference, judging impartially between the colour of it and the sandstone water. If, then, gentlemen, for a cost of £1,200 a-year, we can bring these magnifi rent works into play—if we are able to dispense with a coat of £6,000, or even £3,000 a-year for pumping the red sandstone water, and we shall be able to deliver the Rivington water in a purer slate after some chemical filtration—l ask you is it not worth while to pause and consider whether this would not be the better course to follow ? (fle r, hear ) I shall not occupy your time much longer, gentlemen. I would simply now wish to allude to the Water Committee itself. I have frequently heard, in the discussions on this subject in the Council, gentlemen remarking with great good feeling that they would support the Water Committee—that they bad confidence in the Water Committee, or that they were not willing to place the Water Committee in an embarrassing situation ; and that rule, perhaps, is ordinarily a good one when you are called upon to decide upon the reports of committees and have not all the eate before you. But in this case every report which has been produced before the Water Committee, eve y fact which was known to them, has been transmitted to the Council. I say, th, n, that it is the fault of members of the Council themselves if they are not to-day prepared to deal with this question on its own merits, and irrespective of the Water Committee. (Hear, hear) I speak only for myself, gentlemen, in now stating that I do protest against any considerati on for the Water Committee influencing any gentleman to-day in the decision he comes to here. (Hear, hear.) Let the decision you arrive at go forth to the public as the decision of the Corpora'ion of Liverpool, and not simply as that of the Water Ctmmittee. I do hope that you will not delay your decision longer than to-day. If your resolution shall etnlirm the recommendation of the Water Committee, I am sure that your wishes shall be most energetically and promptly carried out, and if on the other hand, you should see fit to annul that recommendation, I am sure that the members of the committee will be as willing to bow to the wishes of the Council, and to carry out that system, whatever it may be, which the majority of the Council prefer (Hear, hear.) Mr. STITT : Mr. Mayor, I . am sure that such is the sublime complication in which this question has become involved, with reports and c tinter-reports, in such numbers as to become perfectly bewildering, it is not an easy matter for any individual member, who desires to take a calm and impartial view of so vital a question, to arrive at any satis factory result. Any gentleman who would take up the tangled threads of the various arguments we have heard. and would bring them into something like a focal, would entitle himself to the best thanks of the gentlemen I tee around me. I fear it is not within my power to do so. But through all the mists and all the difficulties which have surrounded the question, and continue to surround it at this moment, there are two or three facts beginning to make themselves very palpable to my reflection. I presume I am right in saying that it is a fact that the original advocates of the Pike scheme were led on by promises that this scheme when completed would place us in possession of water which should supersede and supply all the purposes of the well water which was then in use. I presume that another fact is that the Rivington water, hazing come to the torn, does not comply with these promises. I presume it disappoints, as was properly said, the expectations of many of the inhabitants. No sooner hid it made its appearance in the town than a large and influentially signed MentOri il was presented to the Council, representing it to be extremely unsatisfactory, and calling for specific action on the part cf the Council to place them in possession again of the original well supply by a sepera e line cf pipes. When that memorial came before the Council I advocated its reference to the Water Committee, because I believed that instantly to comply with its request would have been ext emely undesirable, seeing that the works were entirely new, that the p'pes had been lying a long time, and were corroded ; and it was, therefore, only natural that when the water did come, in the first instance, from Riv ington, it should present the discolouration which it did then, and which, I am sorry to say, it does now. I expressed at the time my determination that, if upon a fair trial of the water it still continued to be nnsatis factory to the inhabitants, I would be prepared to go • along with the g ntlemen who advocated, in the terms of the memorial, a double line cf pipes to supply the two waters to the town If gentlemen want any proof that the water remains unsatisfactory, they will find it in the conversations to which they are compelled to listen to every day of their lives. (Hear, hear) For my own part, I may say that, day after day, I am besieged upon 'Change, in the streets, in my office, by parties who have loud complaints to make of the water. (Hear, hear) They come down with bottle etter bottle to my office to represent the condition of the water, as just drawn from the pipes and cisterns. If you want further proof, you have it in the able, and, I must say, candid and truthful report of Mr. Duncan, cm the question, a report of which, I am somewhat at a loss to unders and, why it has not been eircelated among the members of the Council. (LT ar, hear.) Mr. Duncan, in his report, says distinctly that he entertained a similar expetation to what the committee did in the first instance —:hat he locked forward to the time when Ihe water would become pure and satisfactory, but that he is compelled to confess that, after the water has been in the Anglezark reservoir, I believe for some years, he finds the colour as objectionable, if nut wore a now than it was at the first. (Hear, hear.) New, if that be the fact, the next question which comes before us is, how do the Water Committee, in the present state of feeling in the town of Liverpool in regard to this supply of water, meet the question ? I am very happy to-day to find what I eannot help saying is a very different spirit on the part of the Water Committee trona what I have ever yet witnessed in the C 'until (Hear, hear ) I think I see new in the Water Committee a dispo sition fairly .nd honestly to meet the case. (Hear, hear.) They will find their opponents on this question quite pre pared to listen to their arguments, and to go along with them in any projects they have for obtaining a better supply. I can discover now what I think was wanting then —a disposition fairly to meet the epiestion. The issue j before us is u_t this —are we content, are we willing to meet the difficulty by renewing ,he filtration of the Riv ington water, and then supplying it to the town ; or, are we prepared to go to the expense of a new line of pipes? To the expense of a new line of pipes. be the expense what it may, I honestly and fairly believe you will ulti mately be driven. (Hear, hear.) But I think we are not yet driven to that issue in the precise terms in which Mr. Graves has put the n. If Mr. G ayes means that we are driven to the ahernative, either of coetinuit g the present Rivington water, or supplying a ne w line of pipes ; it he reeaes by a new line of pipes, an entirely new set of pipes, ail through the town, on the basis of Mr. Duncan's recommendation, which would cost i 135,000, Veen I say that a difficulty does appear in our way, in a financial point of view, and one which is vary great, and perhaps at the present m ment insuperable. (Hear, hear) But the amendment before you, moved by Mr. Jeffery, seeks for a piece of information of very gre it importance to guide us upon this question. We are told by Mr Jeffery that certain streets, very numerous in this town, have already more than one set of pipes at this moneetr, which he thinks can bo appro priated for the purpose; and it is easy to be seen that if this be the feet, if in the report we now call for it be found that there is a large number of streets already possessing double pipes which can be brought into use f u. the purpose of supplying the well water, the expense could be greatly reduced, even at the worst, by those facts being ascertained. It is because I believe that a number of these pipes do exist in the streets, and will be aeuud applicable to the purpose, that I shall support Mr. Jeffery's amendment.. Mr. Hornby said if the meaning of Mr. Jeffery's amend ment was merely as an instruction to the Water Committee to procure the reauras he proposed, but not to suspend the filtra ion experiments, he should cordially support it. But dies intention were to suspend the attempts which were being made to ascertain whether the Ilivington water could ba rendered satisfactory by filtration, then be must oppose it. He conceived, however, that what ho had first men tioned must be the object of the resolution. Mr. WOODRIIFY thrught that no member of the Water Committee would object to that part of the amendment which referred to the returns in regard to the pipeage. Mr. JEFFERY said, Mr. Hornby had put the right con struction upon his amendment. Mr. Saler could not consent thlt, concurrently with the carrying out rf the amendment, the committee should carry on the experiments. Tne Tows Ceaarc sugges'ed that the Connell should postpone giving an opinion upon the first of the Waver Committee's recommendations, declaring the double supp'y with th• present pipes impracticable ; that the two other recommendations be confirmed, enabling them to go on with the experiments, Mr. Jeffery's amendment being added as an instruction. Mr MOZLEY concurred in the remarks of Mr. Hornby. Ha thought it very desirable that the system of experi ments should be carried on to ascertain whether the supply of Riving'on water could be made palatable to the inhabitants, and that the Water Committee should, in th 3 meantime, supply the la-gist pc:osible quantity of w3ll water. At the same time, he thought Mr. Jeffery's amend ment Should be carried out to the ex , ent of ascertaining whether, by the present piping the double supply could be made available. Mr. COOPER said he would have no objection to under take that a return shquld be leil upon the C tureen table at the next meeting. The Water Committee were desirous of giving all possible information. If their own engineer could not g'va the information he should be glad to get it f.orn any other sou .ce. Mr. JAM CA Hone's said, if a small Committee were ap pointed of the gentlemen who opposed the Water Commit.ee to go into the details with Mr. Duncan, the engineer, they would see how impracticable were the views they sup• ported. Af e r several suggestions had been made for the modifi tation of the amendment, with • a view to obtain a unanimous concurrence, Mr. JEFFERY offered to accede to the alteration sugg,sted by the To, n Clerk. This, how ever, did not appear to meet the views of several Members, and, final'', there ware stvaral calls to settle the question by a division. The Council accordingly divided upon the amendment, when there appeared— For the amendment—Ccuncillors Stitt, Sheil, H3ydock, MeGaffie, Banner, W. P. Jeffreys, M 'zley, Johnson, Picton, J. R. Jeffery, li , tchen, and Aikin ; Aldermen — Bennet, Parker, and Gardner-15. Against the amendment The Mayor ; C)uneillor3 Woodruff. Littledale, Hornby, Livingston, Steains, Holme, Graves, Wagstaff, Shand, Brancker, Earle liodscn, Me!lor, Farnworth, an 1 RThertson ; Aldermen —1331 d, Cuoper, J. Brarnley-Mocre, M P., and S. Holme— 31. The amendment was therefore lost. Mr Alderman BENNETT regretted that they had not taken up the subject more boldly that morning, and taken the sense of the Council upon the question of a separate supply ; for so long as the smallest portion of the Riving ton water was allowed to ilo v into the present pipes, mixed with the spring water, so long would there be that enormous demand to which Mr. Graves had alluded, and which, in the middle of the summer, they were told hal reached 86,000,000 gallons per week. Who could suppose that anything like two-thirdi of that quantity had been used ? It was not—it was wasted. It was let out at the end of the plugs, or was drawn from the cisterns ; for members of the Water Committee themselves told him that at that time they emptied their cisterns every morning, and, he repsated, that so long as they allowed the Riving'on water to be mixed with the spring water, so long would that enormous waste exist. (Hear, hear) The chairman of the Baths' Commit . ea also told him, two days ago, that they wee now using mu , _h more spring wa'er at the Cornwallis-street Baths than when they got the spring water entire. Hotel, October 17th. Mr. Bennett then read the roDow ing letter from Mr. Spencer : Mr. WAGSTAFF : Put it that we are now using much more water than when we had only the spring water. Mr. BENNETT continued : He maintained that they now used, in the baths, more spring water than when they had it entire; for they had th 3 water half and half, and they filled the baths twice as much and more often than before. Too observations which applied in this matter of the baths applied also to all the consumers of water in Liverpool more or less. In his own house he wanted more water to keep the cistern clean than he should do hail ho the spring water alone. He would have to refer to the printed reports of different gentlemen on this subject, and he not only begged the attention of the Council to what he would read, but that the Town Clerk would keep him within the law in his observations. He would, with their permission, read a oomcaunication addressed to him, aad dated the Adelehl Adelphi. Hotel, Oct. 17, 1957. Sir,—From reliable information that has been conveyod to rric, I am assured that yon bav3 taken occasion to speak of ma in terms of the most injurious description. I %%rite this to give you nt tice the, should I hear of an; farther public, or even private, attacks on me that ara beyond fair and allowed professiot - al criticism, I shall have recourse to those means repress'ng them that are open to me. To prevent any misapprehension, on your part, I .mean by " fair and allowable criticism," that when I am found in professional error, you, or any, hwe a right to prove the fact in an way they think fit. This much al who tak3 a par, in pubalc a Tairs are liab'e to, and perhaps have a right to look for. Beyond these bounds there is ample prutection hr all, and to which I trust you will not cause me to have recou so. —I am, sir, your's, &c., TIIOMAC SPISCEIt. Wm. Bennet, Esq. And continued: He hoped that the Town Clerk, in consequence of th tt communication, would keep him within the law in the observations whis_h he was about to make. The Town Clerk : I am the adviser of the Coueell, and not of Mr. Bennett (laughter); and as he puts the case he proposes to commit the off±nce, and then ask me if he is right. (Laughter.) Mr. W. Elrle : I hope you will let him go on, sir. (Laughter.) Mr. Bennett continued : Mr. llawksley also had made to him a remark conveying a similar intimation, and also that he was no longer the servant of the Council. Since he (Mr. Bennott) came into the Council chamber that morning he had been sent a bottle of the water as now supplied to the town. One gentleman said that it came from some fi thy fellows cistern which was ❑ot kept clean, and another that it was taken from; the bottom of some brewer's vat. Mr.W. Earle: Or from some water closet. (Laughter.) Mr• Bennett : It came from the cistern of their much respected townsman, Mr. William Brown, M.V. Mr. Bennett hero held up the bottle of water, which was of a most filth► and disgnst irk; character, and read the follow ing letter from Mr. Brown:— Richmond Hill, 191 October, 1857. My dea• Sir —I send you a bottle of Pike water, taken out of my cistern, which holds about I Ode gsllods. It was washed out about a fortnight ago, and again on Saturday last. Raymond, my butler, whvattended to it, informs me that there were several buckets fall eqnal'y impure at the bottom of it. I wild you would bring it before the Council. I am far from blaming those gentlemen who were advgcates for its introduction. Had I been in the Cou - tell, it is more than probable I would have acted with them, thinking that a large supply cf good w der was necessary. Manchester succee ied in getting good water from the Derbylh:re hi 15. Nei her they or any one e'se could pos sibly conte nplate that mein foul and living objects could come from tee Pike, which cannot be u el, except by necessity, either for culinary purposes cr to drink. . If it is meant to be continued for any length of time, pray let me know, for I can re-open a well of excellent water which I have shoot 12) feet deep, and a-ain use a smell steam-engine to pump which I gave up when the Green date and Bootle water was delivered here. I at upon a Southwark Water Cammiltee some years ago, whon wale:. of very mile% the same appe irance was ex;tibited to us as drawn from the Thames opposite London. Powerlwai given to take a supply many miles up the Thames, where the water is goad ; ;and I think they have made the change from filthy to pare water.— Years ever respeetfury, Wm. BROWN. Wm. Bennett, E-q. And continued : No v, what became of the sneers and calumny that had been endeavoured to be cast upon every one who had ventured and had the courage to show samples of the water ? (Hear, hear.) Instead of having had all kinds of severe and untruthful remarks made upon them, they should have been treated as he hoped Mr. Brown would be treated on this occasion, with the respect which their complaints deserved. In some cis terns the water was full of aliimalculae, and in others full of vegetable We. Samples, too, hail been sent to his office, showing such a state of things that they would be courageous, indeed, if they dared to continue the supply of the mixed water in the proportion it had been for a long period past ; and he should solemnly declare his belief that there was more water now wasted than was actually used—(hear, he ir)—and that if the spring water were alone turned into the pipes, it *would be found an ample supply ; because the people, once they got the spring water, would cease to be so excessively wasteful of it as they were now. He would read, with their per mission, a few notes which he had made of M. Hawksley's observations at a meeting of the committee, on the Ist October, and also at a subsequent meeting. An attempt was here made to " count out,' but failed. Mr. Bennett continued : At the meeting on the Ist of Oct., Mr. Hawksley said that he always knew that the water at Rivin g ton would be coloured as much as it was at present, and that to prevent the discolouration, the mountains on which the water fell shoul 1 be drained ; ha did not mean drained is the agricultural, but in the engineering sense of the term. In other words, that all the stagnant pools an I ditches should be uut out anti drained, so that after severe showers the district would be left hare, and not full of water to stagnate and rot. He also said that the moibtains would then be a great deal better for pasture, and that he would be glad it there were thousands more of sheep pasturing in the district— (laughter)—that filtering beds if made at Liverpool should be chemical in their action ; that, as regarded the colour, time would never remove the colour imparted by iron pipes to soft water; and that the pipes at Whitehaven had three quarters of an inch of oxide from soft water. Now he (Mr. Bennett) could inform the council that the Liverpool pipes wore fast decaying, and that there was already a large quantity of oxide upon them, in cense quence of the action of the water. They would then see in how short a space of time their line of pipes would be de stroyed, and not as the chairman had told them, at no expense to the corporation, but at a very great expense. because every pound of metal destroyed had to be replayed at their cost. (Hear, hear.) In the following week Mr. Hawksley again met the committee and told them that he hail made up his mind to accept no new engagement as regarded the Pike, and that he should decline to make any further report on the subject ; that he did not intend to be any longer professionally engaged ;in the scheme, and in the next place that it was impossible for him to agree with Mr. Duncan's report, bunt that he thought Mr. Duncan had adopted the best course „for peace and quietness.• The committee, he further said, could not expect hire, after spending ten of the past ye.rs of his life in it, to further engage himself with the duties of the water supply, that he considered the Prescot reservoir the proper place for further 61 ration, and with regard to the question of a double line of pipes, he did not consider them necessary. and that they would involve the opera tions of the cemtnittee in endless trouble and confusion. In fact, he said they could not carry on their business with two lines of pipes, and he showed some water which he said he had brought from Manchester, and with wh•ch they were there satisfied, though more discoloured than the water from ltivin'eon (Laughter.) lie (Mr. Bennett) was delighted with the statements of Mr. Hawksley at these meeting:3, because there was candour and boldness in them. Mr. Ilawksley, however , told them that by two lines of pipes they would get into confusion, and yet Me. Damian informed them that a supply of well water, through a new line of pipes, was the most desirable course of dealing with this vexed ques- tion, and the only way of meeting the (la - cuby of the case. One said that it was impossible— the other that it was not only practicable, but desirable. He (Mr. Bennett) would also say that there was no difficulty in it, and, furthermore, that they should return the spring water into the mains without one day's delay. Ile had come to that conclusion by carefully looking over -the reports of Mr. Simpson and Mr. Newlands, and by obtaining all the information which it was possible for him to obtain on this important subject since they last met. He found the yield of the wells, under their control and in their possession, amounted to 45,000,000 gallons per week, and that they were obtaining from private wells an amount equal, in his estimation, to 4,000,000 gallons per week, certainly not less than 3,000,u0i. In their report, Mr. Simpson arid Mr. Newlands mentioned the ovvi.ers of those wells, and they also went on to say that there were, besides, upwards of 700 in stables, milk houses, and private dwelling hon=es. He took the private wells altogether as capable of yielding 21,000,000 gallons per week, which, added to 45,000,000 gallons that were obtained from the public wells, gave them the enormous quantity of 66,000;000 gallons per week for the supply of a town which, taking the present population at 400,000, gave every man, woman, and - child in the community an allowance of upwards of 23 gallons per diem. In all towns supplied by water works the supply was net expected to be more than 20 gallons per head per day, but here in Liverpool they had at this moment, without receiving a drop from Rivington, a supply of 66,001.000, which was upwards of 23 gallons per head per day for every inhabitant in the district. He could then fearlessly and without any dread of the consequences press the committee to return to the old supply of spring water. He had no objection to see the Rivington water made as pure as it was possible to make it, not that it might be used for drinking purpases, but that it might be more fit for the uses for which it was specially applicable. (Hear, hear.) He might para phrase the words of the poet, and apply them to it:— Yon may clJetor. u mly Alter, this water so you will, But the tint of the bog-wash wiil remain on it still." (Laughter.) It could never be made palatable to the ople of Liverpool; and he would, therefore, more as an amendment that the resslutions of the committee be not confirmed, but that all the spring water that could be raised from the public wells be returned to the street pipes for the town supply, and that the water from Rivingfon be as soon as po-sible brought, into use for those purposes for which it was peculiarly adapted. (Hear, hear.) In conclusion, Mr. Bennet referred to Mr. Spencer's report, and contended that the discolouration of the water arose not from " turbidity," as alleged in the report, but from its own intrinsic character. Mr. Haydcck seconthd the amendment. " Mr. Banner at great length, and amid much impatience on the part of many members, addressed the Council in support of Mr. Bennett's amendment. He denied that there were any complaints of insufficient supplies of water made while the Council were supplying the well water to THE NORTITERN TIMES. LIVERPOOL, TUESDAY, OCTOBER 20, 1857. the town, with the addition of the Green-lane works. (Oa, oh.) He contended that the Council were not at present complying with the terms of the act of parliament, which directed them to supply pure and wholesome water. He remembered that Mr. James Holme once said that if the Council were dissatisfied with the Rivington scheme they CO 'ld at any time procure for the works £2 for every £1 they had laid out. He co u ld on l y say t h a t h e wou ld b e very glad if they could get 203. in the pound. Mr. COOPFR —So you may. Mr _BANNER was very glai to hear it, and did not think there was any member of the Council who would not vote with the greatest gladnesa to get rid of the works on those terms. He contended that the Committee were unable to pay the interest upon the banded money they had nised, and were now raising other bonded money to pay it off. Mr. Cooeaa denied that such was the fact. Mr. BANNER —I take it upon your own showing. Mr. COOPFR—I don't care what you show. (Laughter). Mr. BANNER contended that the accounts would prove what he had asserted. _ _ Mr EARLE said many gentlemen in -the room had impor tant business to attend to, and he appealed to those around him if there were not certain individuals there whose speeches were insufferably tiresome. (Laughter). Tliy went winding, and winding on, telling the same thing over and over again, which the Council had heard many times. A sensible speech like that of Mr. Graves they were all glad to listen to, but it was the insufferable twad dle, twaddle he objected to—twaddle, twaddle, twaddle, and nothing else. (Laughter). Mr. Banner was pre eminent in that way. (Laughter). He recommended to Mr. Parker a few lessons in elocution before he attempted a speech. (Laughter). He was sorry his friend Mr. Brown had written the le ter which had been read. and he could not consider it a wise step. He pointed to a specimen which had been taken out of the same place, within the last hour. as a contrast to that produced. It was no wonder Mr. Banner recollected all about the Harrington works, considering the lumping sum which was git for them. (Laughter.) That was a great blot upon the escutcheon. He was not sure that Mr. Banner had not bought up some shares then. Mr. BANNER : Mc. Mayor, I object to this. Mr. EARLE : Oh, you did not then, sir ? Mr. BANNER : Mr. Mayor, this is personal. The MAYOR : I must call Mr. Earle to order. Mr. EARLE : Very well. I have often heard it said, but I suppose it is not true. He said this fearlessly, that the Harrington works were not able to supply the people of Liverpool with suffi.tient water of good quality, and he regretted exceedingly that the promoters of the Pike scheme did not go for a private company, and supply the Rivirgton water for half the price of the other. Mr. BANNER : You attempted it, but the House of Commoni would rot listen to it. Mr. EARLE: I beg Mr. Banner's pardon, I did not aptly individu Me. BANNER : Not individually, but you supported it. Mr. EARLE then referred to Mr. Bennett's speech, and remarks I that that gentleman talked and smiled with that self compla ency which belongs l to a man so self-conceited who be.ieved himself superior to every other man there. (Oh, oh.) Mr. BtNNETr : Oh, that is personal. Mr. EARLE : You fully deserve it. Mr. BENNETT : I call apon Mr. Earle to withdraw that remark. Mr. E.kRLE : Well, then, you are not complacent, and you do not think well of yourself. (Laughter) You never gave any opinion which shews that you think well of yours If. (Laughter.) Mr. Earle, in conclusion, said, he was not surprised that gentlemen had to be solicited to enter that Council, where there was such a great amount of public business to be done, which was continually impeded by such a quantity of ta'k. Mr. ANDERSON' ur.ed that, as prudent men, they should try further experiments befire pro eeding to lay down a second line of pipes, iu estimating the expanse of whirl, he believed &r. Duncan was very mach under the mark. Tie believed that there was nothing injurious in the water despite its cclonr Mr. J. IfoLmit said he would co -fees he was much dis appointed with the colour of the water, but as to the quantity and the quality of the wollo, there could not be a difference of opinion. Ile was also willing to admit that he, for one, had been completely deceived as to the cost, but Mr. Banner was wrong in stating that they had cost £1,500,000. The cst of the, works up to the present time, including stoppage of leaks, &c., was, cash paid, £744,000. Mr J. B. JEFFERY : I will meet you on that point, and ack for a committee to inquire into the accuracy of the statement. Mr. J.Elomtz replied that he had got the figures from Yr. White, and that that gentleman would not nave furnished them unless c( nvinced of their correctness. The question, however, for consideration now, was As to th,l manner in which the water could be ramie more useful, and he would ask them whether it would be wise or prudent to reject Mr. Duncan's plan of filtration without a trial, and plunge at once into the expense of laying a second line of pipes? All the committee asked, was that they miglit be permitted to make those experiments,and thsn,if the water did not turn ou to be what they could approve of, he would be an advo for a second line of pipes. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Duncan informed him that, at the present time, there were only t.n miles of pipes which could be converted to the use of a second supply, and Mr. Banner forgot that since the Harrington works were purchased the water supply was extended to the out-townships, and now reached as far as Waterloo and Woolten. (Hear, hear.) The old supply would not be sufficient to be distributed over such an area, and it was therefore absurd to propose to return to it, and to it alone. (Hear, hear.) Mr. ROBERTS us GLADS TONE said, there appeared to him to be one decided objection to Mr. Bennett's proposal, that, inasmuch as in all human probality the supply from the red sandstone would be inadequate, there wou'd then be nothing left but the Rivington water. He believed that water to be at present, without any process of filtration, unfit for drinking and house purposes. He urged, never-' theless, that some further experiment should be made to see if that supply could not be made satisfactory. At the same time, he thought the public h .d a right to complain, that when the Committee were allowed from May until August to produce a report upon that very subject, no conclusive report had yet been produced by them. Mr. WOODRUFF supported the recommendation of the Committee. Mr. Meeeon also supported the Committee. Mr. &Ina, regretted that so much time had bean spent in R discussion which had only become more confused and unintelligible after every epeech. (Laughter.) He was quite willing to give the committee all reasonable time to determine ho the R:vington water cou'd be improved, but they had already had since last May, and yet had done nsthing. '(Hear, hear.) He thought that they should now fix some time whin they would be prepared finally to report on the matter. Mr. Alderman HOLME maintained, in opposition to Mr. Bennett and other speakers, that 46,000,000 gallons per week was the ext-etno amount that cou'd be got from the public wells, and that the Quantity could only be procured by exhausting the surrounding district. (Hear, hear.) He declared that he would be no party for laying an ad :itional tax, however small, in reward to water, on the inhabitants until all that science and experience could suggest had been tried and failed in rendering the Rivington water as pure in colour as it was excellent in quality. He denied that a d able set of pipes could be laid down at the cost estim ted by Mr. Jeffery and Mr Bennett ; and maintained that if they sent a paper round, they wou'd not get 7,000 people ia.all Liverpool to enter into an agreement to pay 15s. a-year extra LT, the double supply, and that they would get still fewer to carry the double service pipe at their own cost into their houses, even if the spring water were brought to their very doors. In conclusion, Mr. Holme briefly recapitulated the arguments which he has so often urged on this question, and maintained that the old supply was insufficient for the present, putting outside altogether the future wants of ,he town. The amendment was then pit to the vote and lost by 10 to 25. The voting was as follows : For the amendment—Aldermen Bennett, Parker, and Gardner ; Councillors Stitt, Sheil, Haydock, Nicholson, Banner, J. R. Jeffery, and Beckwith-10. Against—The Mayor ; Aldermen Bold, Cooper, Hough ton, and S. Holme ; Councillors Anderson, Woodruff, Li tledale, Turner, Hornby, Livingston, Steains, J Holme, Graves, Sh , nil, Gladstone, Earle, Johnson, Hodson, Mellor, Aikin, Clint, Farnworth, Robertson, and Anthony-25. Mr. AIKIN then moved, as an amendment, that the last part of the resolution cf the Water Committee, in regard to granting the largest possible supply of spring water, be confirmed, and that the remainder stand over for another special Council, to be held on an early day in November, to receive from the committee a report on the various modes of filtration proposed by Mr. Duncan, Mr. Hawks ley, and others, with samples of the water so filtered, the estimated cost and annual expense of each plan, and the time required for carrying it into effect. He complained that the discussion had criginated in the vagueness with which the resolutions of the committee were worded, and that ti was only by extreme pressure that any information in regard to tie water could be extracted from them. • Mr. CLtcT seconded the amendment. Mr HORNET denied that it required pressure to extract from the committee any information. Whatever informa tion they became possessed of was always communicated to the Council. He could bee no difference between the amendment and the resolutions which had already recom mended that that course be pursued which the amendment itself called for. _ A very irregular discussion then ensued, the irregularity being increased by Mr. Ald erras.nßennett alleging that th e committee, on many occasions, wilfully omitted from their ......--.....-...."'"*"" gli, minutes, matters which would be of itaP" tance ill d the Council on this subject. liro °Ps. • -Nr. g g bit oft, Mr. HORNET, Mr. HODSON, .....r. G R A D i berg . 1 ,, Mr Alder Man COOPER, and the other 0 6°1 0 1 ,"" Committee indignantl d • d h . lensed Mr Bennett to Y the n'e tf is i 0 01 len proo • Mr. J. Room alio indignantly denied the t. l t e a, and said, that if the garbled statements of li te js,! in the committee—which were at present better to too papers—were continued, it would be bet te .„ r i t tee° The corac reporters present at their meetings• inputatioD:orti ri nothing secret from the Council. (11ear , he ar f;,.;,, , O t°3 The amendment was then put, and I°st ' ter, The voting was as follows : l'sr For the Amen 'ment—Aldermen Ben lsow' ~ steo si c h d Ciittt Gardner; Councillors Stitt, Hai doc k, anner, Gladstone, Jeffery, Beckwith, ltiki' 611 B grit 13. ,er, ''', l Against—The Mayor • Aldermen 3301 d, C°°,Audeti" ley-Moore, M.P., and Houghton • Coy i e v i i i n i3 g rs s tq: ot P li G Woodruff, Littledale, Turner, Honby Graves, Shand, Earle, Johnson, fgdso'n, 31°11°1.1lb ,r):lsfli.: and Anthony-:20. The proceedings of the Corn mitt.e were their:; A memorial was read from the inhabitants °llO place, praying that the square set pavement " 4 re fs removed and the street Macadamised. It 4, j beel the Health Committee, by whom the prayer m re fused. The Council then broke up. POLICE INTELLIGENCE.--Is9,t-ID at , W . hich workers have, duri ii . tilt' , 4 crisis,town fr i. m been d i smissed. These also dese rv° gl o3 , va s c. o it 'i t s b ym .it pa t t b h e y a m nd ess c r , e o!a m mi e s e , .• ct e o ra n t a i l o d n. ar l e Are in we ro te ei , 0 11 ;: e e e04 4 .' when, time, of being able to resume their o ° ll , l 'o , i t ' I di - • _b ,of course, the hands that have b ee ",,, i lo 2r e' c' til p s lo a y n m i ent will bo again taken on ; but, 01 ' - 1 13 0 FP ti s .4 1 benevolent, i imperative demand for ass'stance ou t t t er tee s l,f g''' and we do not kti w anY 1)413 ' A 0) 0 d elv A s which such contributions could °b dispOse-,s111144:1; appointment of a committee of ladies to 0 , 0;4 t ee 'p a r7 allocation of the fund. The a n be -c)I l le 13- Messrs. Macdonald, and c c °: 113 .,,es ° f P t other firms ,_ se rviv ,ilit p f or t/ luctantly compelled to dispense with tile fa' workers, would be happy to afford ec el o f t ill pointing' out those who are doerviog - , i' Glzegow Mail. fo' , I .lootl Exclaiyely for CLOTHNG B ,y 3 from Si , .. i i LEWIi 8/ CONIP.anBI4°4I" d►°oer• v: - I , dos er o f po f, WasrE NOT, WANI. NOT.—Ni hen all t tali 011 , 1 I t '; '' been served cut, I perceived a large eol ) P e i. r ffe 1311' 1 13 1 'i t i ° broth, e with about three inchesg f ri eu ~,i'e\li";ll ~n suired what they ( lid with thii ? ° t Thr e o - 4 sir ; , 1 0 0 ;i6 Throw it away !" we all el 3 aimed. " .1-e":11)° l a ie„'s w t at-r in which the beef has bee❑ cooke d • dos •r I ' l4 htt water ? I call it strong bro b. NOY -„"iiir.,o3,"f 13.9" of it ?" "We orderli , s dcnt liko s. °llr i i3_Nfol:„°% y ) , ,1-0 s ir, e bsg•-orria yon really do throw it awa ' othing." I took a ladl:and removed a 131 : g for c ,io ol/ ,1 beautiful fat, which, when cold Was bette6o'll3t ° I I , purposesatf than the rank butter prucurcd fri )l3l ,Th ol tj p ° : f tii , s. i our' ten to fifteen pi,e,res per p ound. , ; ,; o tti 9- ,, V I w h b o o w t ed tb t e la y e b m od en b h ef o o w re to make s mos t de ''' . ° III'. '1 , d to 11 , 1 " t i ol ic me hod they were henceforward very "i'' jail less than seventy ounds of beef had '1 ' e ,, ,e13 ,41) 41.811. this manner, and withoutsosalfut.lll:lol.:thawri :6:01 64 0ers I ' o l At Lr ---------- wiS & COtipar,V, R% / ta r Bois are CLorium fro,* thce Agas J , • - -;bt • Th e , II BS 4ew and rE oti qt Lir tt,whic ° us; „ d !' hk" th. gal Brute ure hase to t, 6 eet, r & c r )I‘ 5. ,Jll, CUN tt 69, FEN 4 1.1 p, ( ;• r ye c sf 1161 Br umt 11 41 u,t4, 1‘ 9: 1 10 T • T I PP Bi `lh Ip ) k NDO I ; k g I L O n ►411? t T 8 ON' ' , k oq 't 4 t , t I 'Ok. 4i3 LIVERPOOL. , 1 '7 , , BEFORE MR. MANSFIELD' ...,10, i ; r FROM THE SUBLIME TO TUE RIDICO'°°,S. Me t SO L I shell, aged 34, a " piano performer, Wa s : c r iei th , a e ill ~.........._, Mr. Hughes, the outdoor parish officer, r char oncer rev , o i d,serted'his wife and three children. The t ile° reel' t; li'n Saturday night, at a quarter to 11, he wen t to r efl 0 1 ..A ~-11 s , Saloon (a singing and dancing house) , in I ,, tur Pl ae°' srg, . '4 ‘.l h 1114 t!:" where the prisoner was engaged playing t,"ewile e b oii , L 'lu'.4 ~,1 • 511 ,- 1) arrested him on a charge of having left 1119 ,,,. F lacon ,ll ico tp i *, ,ti ll . - o L f a i a li able to the parish to the am he o r Unt F of ro L tn l2 t "he P T be j k l r A l kl o , 4 4 '<:;f 4 ip Cll:t 4 h l s been advanced to support prisoner was removed to the cell . of bridewel„hio o'er:, of f1 , f ! t N k ,, 4 ,t.. 4 .4 . 1 ,, a .it: i r ,' a se ndchiidren reside in Sawney Pope-street, - ,iter ' t ,ra! il i i' 4 ';)!,! . .' 4 ‘ tl ' ,.. 3 "ePth: The ', f , 5 s r a os v , N'',NZ t t; 4 PPI , sa r i r e ed as in a destitute condition. n told Mr. Hughes that the p-'-oner yi' v - isol)Del ~, .„0 , to e performer, but was too fond of drink L l- T t l i r a 'll r e h :1 $13 ,1 - ' b S(ce he was out of employment recently, but the t oo° f i l l ' I .,'"i\ `0 engaged in Dublin and Belfast during t he 8 1t f ies 'eAf t* • Ith k sent his wife money regularly . every v7eek'„ go elPt il' o' ,,, " ; t te t l i ! $1 9 , , , 114A ,.,`' by Mr. White, the relieving officer, who t t ' d ea °to, fps 'Tn . Hughes, that the prisoner was cominitte 0 ,0 0 f or., 4,,. ~..I.N charge before. He was sentgaol fort lll ,. r &we e lhtfr. , L 'tk il C i j , '" - . '4 ' ASSAULT.—Thomas Cain to' native 01,',0110; tPI t ki, " 11 tliq' t tl ' '' E n p e street, was charged with having'a' -leo ° ,L, 1 •11 '", In i ll, tklti l ° l l4 -' 596. The prisoner was drunk as cl ls- 3 ' 4" 1 :' 1 , 17'1 :, 1 , street, when the officer advised hip. as Band 11 15° 0 ne ' kk. tO ° leer, qij t 'r t" instead of doing se, he " up" with his 'P e 00 ''.. I ‘ l ' 4l f4 ( him " down," and then kicked him sever elY. thr ee was fined .e 5, or, In default of par:tient o,bob re o l l ij ; I.\ ? „,., --, imprisonment. in A FlCHT.— Patrick Floodand John Mater,,ith rot EV 6 \ 411 Al Ashton-street, Park, get' " 5' i ' 'l%l 2'. t' - SON eral policeay,n were Mr . that S assaulted . a p p ri p s e o a n r e e r ( s i char oso 1 /4 1 1 f i li , ebilt". o d, treli kr&DNei't 1e there I T e e r r ea was l W i a t n • we re exalvbt' . n tbe i s f ir he • w0 , ,, ,,, i 41i t4 4 itl o uell i t ',o o ,,to: Kf4 l !i il t ; i l and when the police interfe n r s ed ' to q apaulted. Mr. Chilton produced some witr i ng,' D f",,r 0 iN 4 0 N .,1e 5. 0 ,.% 11 ' -! ',' failed, and Fiood was fined "ecsoae3idcrabl e"elg`'' I tbel l bt , , - 4,7o,i,teD•'Aetl l , view of showing that the prisoners ~ did iant"7s, '' ~ kbg t , e 'l - ', ° ~,' . eand the otio r 1 ,, 1 1 tf o . rli , t,,.. lifi ° 0' 'Ct K .° . a 1 : assaults committed by the ' t . o ie , i o rk li, i )a'y WIFE BEATINa —Thom m as . Cassidy , 0 , 13°e- in r g ' 1' pi 0.4 *41.'11 1 di t , • Carlton-street, was charged with D al !JO , 0 1 '() sate t O t ero 4, it assaulted his wire. It appeared that, on bes t , o rt t i i'Cip the prisoner, without any sufficient reason. the ;' s ece s i)t, L I O 'GA.,' in a cruel manner, and Surgeon Davis, of A' 50 116 1? O t 5ki, , ,,,, 'i t4 '''t 4 . Hospital, prove d that the woman had receive'llis Arta ttt s ly:lfrqlittis contused wounds. The prisoner alleged 11,3t„ff2,115,,a1t,e, k ki k l l ki q to .' drunk and that the wounds were the resul t ',, ( 0 t ' o e,el 60, 1 1, 1 ' 4 4 - in that state, but this was disproved, and h e tt O t r ' oit (1 1 " L '. l4 ki ' l t tt" ;',ll g be ao for . six months, and, at the expiration 0 ae ,,l . 4 ' , 1 ; , -, tit'il n , a impr,soned for an additional six month s ' 1 I ' lol e t kre ,r' 4,5, 4 ; te i r ; 4 'r is ; iiirling bail to keep the peace. Illys borl i o N'll l ',t'•'"a lel ` Tim £3.on ROBBERY - - Rumford-place, Watson, the apprentice at Messrs. $ v i 'i l oP , N,0„ 0 , '‘',' who was remanded ott ve ore . . .4 i-'eit,, l of having stolen £3OO, was brought 1 1 1 ). ~ or tbi • 1 ... i F OR ;---- dayh case appeared in our paper ty r ,`; g10 1 ;0; I ,W, to,V , ago. In addition to the evidence a lreaci i i o rsV i t if., iT,t,.. 44 1 t1i,! cash-keeper at the countine-house of Messrs,' B oa ,Or A ttivi.,, h:rti l ; said he went to the Bank of England, Lond° ll 'wri li ;tri k 1 k, 44 44 11, h t 1 ),N't 1 4 , gold saw two of the £lOO notes. The prison third 0 0 „or ' 1 00140 1 ; 1 ' on the back of each. Mr. Clough said the thi be cf l o ol terrei k ks;i t was left at Mr. Samuels, Castle -street, hY_ t ni, i , NiNVIC r Pi . D g or, 1,,,, Il e, The r ete 1 - ' l ' • A Nlt t. : l. and upon which he got £3O was pad to a cal' a ite i had paid it to some one in ' lreland. gor sbn 'I' D 0 ., a t.,, t had been paid by Mr. Samuel to Mes srs ' eune s ' 0 "r 1 Mansfield said the evidence was q uito o r Ik. \ -' 4 ).. 1 i t41,1 ordered the prisoner to be sent for trial. . _ u p .0 0 4 Qli 1 0 ps t, D..,.....,. G..s..vx, —Amu, Ontter wag c nargeu n ",..,rtiv o to zi.. k 4,1 ,, ,, ,, , ii •t ; stolen ell 14s from a Frenchman named Fre. _Nito 1 1 ,A .); ~bt Mr. Bluelt defended. The money consisted ot , ;_ori er N,Srj ell ' a t gold and silver, and the only evidence against irate ils .N ' HarrlT'll_ was that she had been observed with a ~ C l 6l hand. She was acquitted. Pr), 4 ,I't: S. ____-_---•--- 71 i s fte ' t 's °. CORONER'S COURT. ,/, kr Yvott , s2 . I-t ter eel 'Or ee44:41 The Coroner held the following inquests Yrs - 4 0%, OP 1 1' t : h 4d 4 `_e , On the body of a chill named James "flit ~ 4 ' iirjyl,:ri months, that was found dead in bed with i tel "flit re r 4 " 41 Sunday morning, in a house in Cr 1 11- c °rit i o r/6 h .l . ttt street. The child was suffocated, and the P il l ; t est, A ss ' i;,. & '•N: , i ,-. & diet accordingly. i flto soe 1 / 4. t r kitti: )l On the body of James Cook, aged 60 Ye a Ore t 3 ti'l øs fS 0 1 :' , ' re Okst , 'lt NI en at Southport. The deceased was on his re it t he 0 , ) ‘ ',, i 4o' l , 4 A port on Saturday evening, and while Tithebarn-street he fell down and died 5 " 00 )1 '4 1 )kA i ttN " ' +nrs l i t° l It appeared that death was the result of na- -- ,bilv , , e , k i t, kZAte at hOr til , 4 el ' off`rt'tl;'f(l i An inquest was opened on the b . :,dy of a 'cicle rl `4 3 , ol' t qe‘ tl / 4 P' Frederick Fendle, aged four weeks. S l9re ,t a tee T13 5 11 ; 6 Ai r° 1: 't. gone into, when the inquest was ad'ourne'vg 0 g i ,l t v L , r) but as the character of a medical Pjersoe, - , l3 vllb''' 1 ` \-4'll S /4 * , ores child some medicine, is involved we de il° k i s t 0,, 1 , evidence until the'case is complete. ,h, , e,N . .ht, ' , ll ;,,.ki litil 1 , OSIC Cr' ......_—...--.. (-41,0 6 , THE WAREHOUSE GIRLS IS ' lf 0 ° tl , I. l ' ' ,'lt .-------• A a s -: ef te e i .•,, .t - It will be noticed that suggestions are the re —aid I t ' ` 'l ' ,_ 41 t t ' e t h th ment for the purpose of aff)rding some l itt „ s pet L I -'le s 'vt,,,4',e, '''l numerous warehouse girls in GlasgoW, at P r " st ' to",,„1 ''''`' ih .° l' ...,,,. T oo 0 3 , 1,4, e l destitute by commercial disasters. v`",. ° ~a De l i siil, ii .1 '.,‘ VI sympathise with the suggestions which J' l , s l,bor B [ . , 9,r t (Ji i and have no doubt that the generous a u 's.; lad be toS T at s S citizens of Glasgow, and more particularly t' yasY 4 0 0 once avail themselves of such opportunitY ° ti les e ts o,o ';.,,i, St k !, sented of contributing to the relief of the fet il i f vie,d 0. j ~,‘ ' 11cb14,,,. ! i lv; we hope but for a brief season, been ea st : n - 1 C5 11 ;,, - is °o 4 ei , 4 a; 11. ` 11 )1 .1111 call it, on the world. We took the liber t l " t he " si,o w oi , 7V i ti' . ':` the Messrs Macdonald lately .with ..„, o f O f th e °, ,!Nh tll t z t4tN,t3 satisfying ourselves as to what the erou-4-e-ter °. 0 4 0 '' `A 4 ' l ' l 1 1 . 11 1D t `tl , required might be, as well as the ch ar "C o ' ° 0 co o t, 1 1 , 1 4 who might legitimately be supposed t3 i o te,a° 14 1 'D I the scope of the philanthropic object l'," n . v",,tz,,ig- O h were informed that this week no fe r tjA- ll ' a ie " l" ''ki' we bIY ill bo ti 4 ' t ts have been discharged from this e ste lici 4 es 11 0 1 )4 41, these are principally from the country', ~$ es" b elt 4 4 ings, and would scarcely be able to do u l° "The' li . 6 of n of ?,,,'! in employment than to support thecoselv e t, c 0n,. 13. 0 0,,"tti 4 .4.,N i '' , 11 women may be said for the present to 4 -';', 01 _.,,- pr A id 4 4 Y '5, :.1 . ,, destitute ; but there are many hunclee"' r , tP-Itiv.,, ..tit;!% ''si tO fe ll i rl a3v ' 1 1 1; l1 . 1 workers who, there is too much reasOn v be , g e-,,, e fe \oq q t much in the same position, only it, ri ai' s u h t . '" 0 ' \ ' c li.i 3 additional hardship, that they have lit - re e d. t " l3 ' o' i eg esH ° I ' 4l L' kb - 4 , upon them. It must also be rellell tu 'aiso ci° Pr ~eii th, 11 _ ?aria tV,, Vil ' (t 4 ar e a other establishments besides Diesel's. *- 110 ph, ''. " •