The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1835-12-11 00:00:00

CREWE and COCKBAIN, PAINTERS and GLASS STAIN gas, No.- 60, Lime-atreet, Liverpool, return their sincere :banks to their Friends for the liberal support they have receive ed at their hinds, soliciting for the continuance of the thlle, They also beg leave to ininrm the Public general! o • ieir GLASS • STAINING DEPARTMENT, viz. I cepers Lamps, Hall. Lamps, Coats of Arms and Crests, at kinds of Gothic and Grecian Ornainental Borderiwr, of every description. executed accordimz. to order. Those who may honour them with their' s upport will find a decided advantage Plain and Cloured Glass of all descriptions. AGRICULTURAL SEEDS, &e. THOMAS GIBBS and Co. NuasEar AliN, SEEDSMEN C. to the Hon. Boards of Agriculture of England and • den, beg to call the attentiou of Landed Proprietors to t. r Selec tion of Natural GRASS SEEDS, for laying La to period hent Grass, and for improving old Meadows an. • astures, as also to their GENERAL ASSORTMEN AGRICUL TURAL, KITCHEN GARDEN, and F 1 VER. SEEDS. Dried Specimens of the Grasses, Samples o he Seed, together with Sample Routs of Mangel Wurtzel, Hungarian Turnip, Carrots, Parsnips, and a new Beet (used the same at Seakail) were exhibited by them at tne LiverpOol Agricultural Society's Show on the Ist October. T. G. and Co. have been honoured with the above Institutions' Silver Medals for their exertion in this lateral Branch of Agri• culture. T. G. and Co. beg to notify that they have no connection with another house of the'saine name, and therefore solicit those who may wish to favour them with their orders to be particular in the address viz., " Mocks Glees and Co., Corner of Hals, 1110 On-street, Piccadilly, London. • MANCHESTER. BOLTON, AND BURY RA VAY. CONTRACTS FOR WORKS. rrHE Comin'ttee of Management of the M chester, Bol ton, and Bury Railway Company, will o et at the Rail way Office, No.l • Harrington -street, Liv• mol, on Wednes day, the 16th December next, to receive 'l' DERS for CON TR ACTS for the - following WORKS, flat ely - The construction of. Bridges, Viaducts, Culverts. and various lithe*MAsonry, &c., needful iii completing the Line from Ir well-street, in Salford, to Bolton. Plans, Sections, and Specifications for the same, may be seen at the Raillay Office, Salford, from the 25th instant to 14th December next. The Putties whose Tenders are accepted will be required to enter into bond, with two sureties, for the due performance of their Contracts, iu a penalty of not less than 10 per Cent.. on the gross stun contracted for ; and the names of the proposed sureties are to be specified in the Tender. The Committee will not bind themselves to accept the lowest Tender. The Tenders must be delivered, sealed, and sent in on the lrith . December, marked, Tenders for Contracts." The parties tendering must attend in person, or some one duly authorized on their behalf, at the time of Meeting. Liverpool, I lth Nov., 1835. JAMES ItITSON, Secretary. CIVET CAT, ../. 61, Loap-stitliF.T, LIVERPOOL. ~." HZ Proprietors, KENDALL and SON, tesßocifully an ez n z Aince. that, in order to complete alteratio ;their Esta blishment as above will be CLOSED THIS AY, the Bth instant, and REOPENED on SATURDAY eat, from which ibty the etailTrade will be continued at 6 1k ORD-STREET, awl the. Wholesale renioved to No. 3, Cl-STREET. . _. By this arrangement Kendall and Son hope to extend the Novelty and Variety of the Retail Department, and thus render it more worthy of the distinguished and uui .ersal Patronage which they have so long enjoyed. To their 'Wholesale Friends, Kendall and Son offer their sin. cere acknowledgments, fur the great increase which they have experienced; and they trust, by carrviug ou that departaient.in distinct premises, to be enabled - to devote that attention which will ensure them a continuation of those favours which t y have received. December 4, 1835: • ITIHAMES HAVEN RAILWAY, front LON D 1 EASTERN COUNTIES RAILWAY to R and train thence by 1101INCHURCH, UPMIN ' KENDON, ORAETT, and HORNDON, HAVEN, about midway between TILBUR SOUTHEND, Essex, with a TIDE DOCK V EN. Capital £450,000, 9,0G0 Shares of £5O • per Share. PROVISIONAL COMMIT E. 11.: - .bert Child, Esq. Alfred I earson, Esq. Thomas Haviside, Esq. Geo. Pemberton, Esq. PALS Jas. Stiimirez Jephson, Esq. Samuel Pett, Donald M' Lean, Esq., za.p. I Edward Vuux, John Martin. Esq. Thus. Wood, Esq. Alderman. With power to add to their number. Bankers. London—Messrs. Glyn, Halifax, Mills, and Co. Roinforil—Messrs. Johnson and Co, Counsel for the Bill—Mr. Sergeant Merewether. Solicitors—Messrs. Vaux and Fennell. by the ;WORD, 7ER,- OC: .o SHELL FORT, and SHELL HA- —Deposit £2 105 Engineers.—Alfred Giles, Esq; Beaicke Blackburn, Esq. Secretary—Henry A msinek, Esq. A direct communication between the Metropolis and the en trance of the Thames, where a safe and commodious tide-dock accessible at all times of tide, may be constructed fur steam ves sels, whether bound to foreign ports, coastwise, or to the water ing places on the opposite shores of the coast of Kent, with a landing-piace for fish, at an hour's distance from the market of London, is a desideratum attainable only by means of a Rail way. From a careful survey it ham been ascertaiued that Shell Haven (proposed to be called Thames Haven) offers such a situation, with a depth of water sufficient for the largest ships. and presenting advantages for the coustruction of (leeks not to In? found -in any other part of the river. As the itic.inatious of the Railway will be peculiarly favourable, it has been calcu tted that coals way be brought into London at a considerable diminntiun of the present prices. It is proposed that the Company should .avail themselves of the Eastern Counties Railway as far as Rumford, from thence the Thames Haven Railway will proceed through a rich and highly-cultivated country within an easy distance-of Southend, and the fertile Hundred of Rochford to its terminus, but no charge of Conveyance will be requisite from-London to Shell Haven. Although the extent of the probable income cannot be stated witu accuracy, the basis of the calculation is sufficient to justify the conclusion that will be large and liberal, as will be seen by considering that the returns will be derived . 1. From the conveyance of passengers to and from all parts of the Line, exclusive of Steam-boat passengers. 2. From the conveyauec . of Goods and Parcels. 3. - From the conveyance of Agricultural Supplies, Meat, and generally the pro•lece of the country in all the varieties required by the greatt. Market of Loudon, and of the Supplies required iu return. 4. From the conveyance of Fish to the London Market. 5. From the conveyance of Passengers to and from Steam boats, a distance of twenty-six miles by land, in little more than one hour, at a moderate charge, the distance by water being thirty -tive miles; • Arid, eventually, from the carriage of Coals, particularly f.ir the consumption of ►he Metropolis. The annual nuinuer of Passengers to:and passing Gravesend by Steam-vessels is calculated at 1.700,000, of whom about one hAf proceed below Gravesend. This calculation is exclusive of the Scotch, Irish, and Foreign Boats; and it may be fairly .considered that the advantages which this Station will afford of perfect security under any weather and at period of the tide, us' well as the facilities of lauding the Passengers and Goods, will be speedily appreciated, and consequently may reasonably be contemplated as a source of great revenue to the undertaking. A Railway us projected from Herne Bay by Canterbury to. Dover•wuul+ complete the chain of communication by Steam power between London and those places by a direct route, and, when completed, cannot but add materially to the use of the Thames Haven Railway. It is intended to make application to Parliament for an Avt of Incorporation in the ensuing Session, the requisite Notices having been given, and the Plan, Section, and Book of Reference lodged with the proper authorities. The Provisional Committee will now proceed forwith iu the appropriation of Shares. All measures deemed necessary preparatory and previous to the passing of the Act will be conducted by the Provisional Committee, who are to have the control and disposition of the Fund constituted by the Deposits. - Applications for Shares to he made (if by letter, post paid) to Messrs. VAUX and FENNELL, Solicitors, 32, Bedford-row, or to the Secretary, at the Office, where plans and particulars may be obtained. Thames Haven Railway Office, 34, Alichurch-lane. ADVERTISEMENT. Mardian Society, !es rendered Ly !Opportunity pass r thanks for those ind and courteous eived our commit:lA- TO WILLIAM E\VART, ESQ., SIR,—We, the Committee of the Liverpool G feeling deeply sensible of the important ser you to our society, cannot let the presen without laying before you an expression of services, heightened as they are by the manner in which you at all times have 31 cations; by the prompt attention which and by the zealous and talented exerti all occasions displayed in futwardin natter. have paid to them , Kris which . )ou have un lie wishes of the earn. • We feel that to your zeal and 'Menton, we, in common with 'the inhabitants of liverpotd at large, are especially indebted fur the attainment •of that touch-desired and long-sought ob ject, the removal of the assizes to Liverpool. To the various petitions sent ; by the committee on this subject you ever paid the most zealpu , attention, and you did not relax in your efforts, tuna.. you •,ba4,4•tully- succeeded great beitetit for Liverpool, the good effects of which hive been already felt by its inhabitants; and we feel assuird that it will always be a sourye of proud gratification to you to know that you have been instrumental to ouuterriug so great a benefit upon sour native town. We cannot avoid noticing also your attentions and exertions in aiding our endeavours to obtain a repeal of the receipt stamp duty on mercantile and,trading transactions. by which we have been successful iu gaining ,at least a partial relief from that vexation.; and obnoxious tax. Your unwearied and valuable exertions in pressing on the House of Qom moms, and on the several committees, our views end wishei on the subject of tion-imprisOnwent for debt bill, demand our most grateful acknowledgments. We feel pleasure in stating that to your exertions we are indebted for obtaining, un our suggestions, several amendments iu the bill, more par ticularly for the amendment of one clause, which would other wise, had the bi.l passed, have especially affected Liverpool. The various reports and proceedings which you so kindly took the earliest opportunity of presenting to us from time to time, unsolicited, have been of valuable service to the society. Such kindness proves to us hole much you desire to aid us iu our exertions, and fur which we beg to return yuu our warmest thanks. Wishing that you play long continue in a situation to ad vance our objects, and so render us services so valuable to the society, We have the honour to remain, Sir, Your very obliged and obedient.Set4ants, (Signed on behalf of the committee) J. ORANGE, President. Liverpool, Deceinher 5, 1535. A foreigner is said to have remarked that "on entering a public place in England you observe such a t,ettled nielancho:y o n many faces about you, that if you were in any other collo tiy you would be tempted to go up w the persuua and ask thew what was the matter with thew." EXTHAOHllitiAlti FALL OF THE SSA AT MONTH VthEo.— Advices float &bine Video state thatan extraordinary pheno menon had occurred there on the 15th and ltith Sept. The sea suddenly fell so as to leave the mole empty and the vessels so dry that the anchors wet e visible. Such all occurrence had net taken place within the tnemory of man, it being 12 feet lower than its ordinary. elevation. ft remained in this state 30 hours, when it gradually rose to its ordinary height. The crews of many of the vessels had deserted in such numbers that several of them were unable to depart from the want of mariners to ua vigate them. Even vessels of war were not exempt from this, eight or ten men having deserted from the .lirench corvette there. Tile commandant jointly with the consul had employed all the means iu their power to preveut this, but hitherto iu vain. MEETING FOR THE RELIEF OF THE IRISH CLERGY. On Tuesday morning, according to - previous a onouncement. a meeting was held at the Music Hall, Bold-street. 'The meet ing was convened fur the purpose of taking into consideration the distressed state ofthe Irish clergy, and to call upon the pub lic to afford the means of alleviating that distress. The meet ing was announced to take place at twelve o'clock, at a little before which time the room was tolerably well filled, a large pro portion of the audience consisting of ladies. Shortly after, the e4ev. Gentlemen conducting the meeting ascended the platforin, and the Rev. A. Campbell opened the proceedings with au ap propria,e prayer. The Rev. J. Bitooks then took the chair. lie said,—ln opening the present meeting, I would first state the great readi ness with which I have accepted the office of chairman, at the wish of the committee who have bad the management of this meeting. Ido it, however, with a full knowledge ofmy own in adequacy; yet Idu it with willingness. Ido it, but with mixed feelings both of regret and satisfaction. Of regret, and of very deep regret, at the existence of those,eircumstances which have now called us tog ether—the destitute and deplorable state of the protestant clrgy of Ireland. Ido it also with satisfaction, when I had the interest created on their behalf, and the re spectable and numerous meeting that has assembled together this day, in order testae their endeavours to relieve that distress. 1 do not feel called upon, on the present occasion, to enter into any justification of the Motives which have influenced those who have exerted themselves to call you together, because the ex istence of that most unparalleled extent of misery in which the body of the clergy of Ireland are iaVolved, is far too well and too widely known to require the necessity of such vindication. It will be in the recollection of you all, that this is not the first call that has been made on the behalf of that class of individu als whom we are now assembled to assist. A large sum of money has, on a former occasiou, been collected throughout the coup ' try ; and I regret to say, that the whole of it has been neces sarily expended to supply the wants of the clergy. We are now assembling on the present occasion—arid in doing so, are only following the example of the rest of the country—for from one part of the country to the other the same feeling seems to ex tend itself, and the metropolis itsell has given us a noble ex ample at the head—to do our part in following up that feeling. (Applause.) I shalluot attempt to lay before you the distresses of the Irish clergy, because I am not sufficiently acquainted with them to do justice to that part of the subject. There are gentlemen who will address you on that subject, who have the means, and more than sufficient, to convince you of their destitu thin. To them I shall leave that portion of the subject; and shall only state generally, and 1 do it as it comes within the sphere of my own knowjedge, that the distress is, .I may hay, unexampled. That great as was the distress on a former occa sion when we Met, it has Since that time been considerably in creased, and the distress has approached in many cases to starvation itself. That those who have been used to enjoy the comforts of life, have, in many instances, beeu deprived of the necessaries of life; and iu many instances the separation of families—of children from their parents-4as become necessary frorn the inadequacy of funds to maintain them in their own habitations. These are strong proofs of what must he the amount of that distress. Arid when we consider who that class Of persons are, who are now requiring our assistance—that they are men of character and education—of talent of great extent in the field iu which the duties of their profession lie ; that after haying been used to enjoy all the necessaries, and many of the comforts of life, they are left wit huut the means of common suste nance ; that they themselves who have been used to contribute largely from their own means, are now compelled to be suitors for their own necessities: sailors did I say? I ought to recall " the expression—they are no suitors; they 'have borne with un flinching fortitude those misfortunes, and those ills, with which they have been visited ; and in most instances, they have shown a delicacy, too fastidious, in hiding from the public the extent of their misery. (Cheers.) I shall not, therefore, longer detain you in opening the business of the meeting. leaving it to others better qualified to give you the details, but by expressing my hope and conviction, that thos e who may address you on this subject, will confine themselves strictly to the object fur which we are met. It has beetle the wish of the committee that we should confine ourselves to'ihat purpose which ought to be up permost in the minds of us all ; and I should indeed regret, if this room should be made (now sanctified by the object fur which we are met) the arena for the discussion of topics which have no connexion with the objects of the meeting. And Ido hope we shall not sully our Christian purity, by introducing auything like political feeling. (General applause.) i shall then conclude what I have to say to you, by calling on Mr. Campbell, who has kindly undertaken to propose the first reso lution. (Applause.) The Rev. Rector CAMPBELL then spoke nearly as follows lthough altogether unused and most reluctant to intrude mvself un meetings like the present, still I have felt myself railed upon by the position I hoist in the town, to yield to the request, which has in am:tuner been forced upon rise, by the im portunity of influential friends, that I would take a pert in the proceedings of this 'day, and propose the first of those resolu tions which will be submitted to the acceptance of the meeting. And I am willing or cuuless that my reluctance to undertake thiretask has been in some measure diminished by the nature of the resolutiau I shall have to propose, which I am sure will re co nmend itself with such au irresistible appeal to the sympa thies and feelings of those who hear me, that very little ability wilt he required on my part to insure its acceptance, and that the weakn. ss of the advocate will be tnote than compensated by the strength of the cause. The resolution is this :—" That the distress of the Irish clergy at fife present is such as to claim ge neral sympathy, and to call for tile help of public benevolence." And it will be perceived that this resolution will resolve itself into two propositions. First, that there is distress, and second, that that distress is such as to claim general sympathy, and calls for the help of public benevolence. (Hear.) And with respect to the first of those propositions, namely, that there is distress, I shall not think it necessary to go into very minute details. The distress is so generally and fully known, that few present will be disposed to deny or to doubt its existence. The only requisite will be to prove its afflicting extent and appalling magnitude, and that I shall leave to two gentlemen locally connected with Ireland, who will be far better qualified for the task than. I can possibly pretend to be. It will, however, be necessary for ins to say a few words as to this particular, iii order to establish the existence of distress generally—that I may proceed from thence to argue upon the duty of afford lug 'it 'relief; and e _ the first . evidence I shall adduce to this effect,is,ao extract from a report of. a committee of the House of Cumulous, to inquire into the ewe of the Irish tithes; —"The nature of the opposition is.stich, as to elude the ao plicatiouof physical force; and it appears that the clergy, un wink* to risk the effusion of blood, have latterly so .far ac quiesced in the total cessation of their income, as to abstain from taking active steps, and to await with patience the deci sion of parliament. In making, however, this temporary sub mission to the'dictates of an imperious necessity, it is evident that messy of them have been reduced to a state of the deepest pecuniary distress ; and that several clergymen, with large nominal incomes, are in actual want of the ordinary comforts of life." To this 1 will add the testimuoy of Mr. Little ton, then secretary for Ireland, and now a member of the, House of Peers :—" From the repreeetitations which have been made to me, I believe that many clergymen of the Established Church in Ireland, are at the present moment removed but in a short degree from the necessity of begging for their daily subsistence " From this I will proceed to an extract from a speech of Mr. Frederick Shaw, member for Dublin Univer sity, during the last session of parliament:— "It is quite true that the Irish clergy are suffering all the distress alluded to by Lord Morpeth. 1 will not harrow the feelings of the house by the long and melancholy enumeration of their suf ferings. They and their families 'have been bereaved of the common comforts almost the necessaries of life. The education of their children is suspended; and their prospect of provision cut off by the forfeiture of life insurances on which they eau no longer pay the premiums. Mao) , are driven as ex iles from their homes, while the widows and orphans of others are left to deplore the loss of their only protectors, who have fallen victims to atrocious murder and cold blooded assassina tion. Their patience has been unexampled. Their meekness such as woulu not have been oisplaved by any other body iu the community." In addition to the foregoing testimonies I will read to you some extracts from a letter which has been put into uty hands by one of our clericalbrethren in this town, who is of too ietirmg a disposition to take part in the proceedings him self. The letter was received by him train a relative of his own, a dignitary in the Irish church, who is no less distinguished by his station in that church, than by the niauy excellent qualities which adorn his character; who knows the truth by . personal observation, and who, uu that knowledge, may be implicitly believed. The extra acts are as follows "It gives me great plea sure and hope, to lead that iu SO many quarters of England a spirit of sympathy with their Irish clerical brethren has at length arisen, mid is making steady progress. It is a pecu liarly gratifying feature, that the laity come forward to take up a prominent position, as indeed, they well may. Be aware, however, that neither you, nor even 1, will ever know the full amount of suffering from destitution. Scores of men will nut conies*, nor suffer tolioze out, the privations endured by them selves and families. I can give pretty shrewd guesses, (not in deed enough for a court of justice,) nu alsundauce of instances and those even unsung the higher grades of the profession. I know two deans, who have not wherewithal to keep their fami lies. I know the brother of au sail, ho is glad to receive any donation which the liberality of friends may atlut to his share another earl's brother, whose living is just now seenestered, for a debt of £100! 1 told you, (1 think,) betome, ot a clergyman who lately came into a market town, and offered for sale his silver watch, the only thing on which he could raise-money for his family's food. '1 he nominal amoi.ut of livings now goes for nothing: there is one dead level of general non-payment. Judge for y ourself what must be the situation of men without pri vate means or wealthy friends, men whose credit is now exhausted by protracted use; when I myself, one of the ueMinally r best preferred men in Ireland, do not receive, fruns.tscsolarge }iv iuge, haft my fainily; and I believe you - know that 1 have no particular extravagance, living for some years past far below my station rather than above it. My curates alone take I.;3ooyear ; and these I have never curtailed (nor will I) of one single ehilliug—(cheers)---whatever missy come the rector shall bear the brunt of it. Nor (be sure) if I, or any other re lative of the lected in England, would he give us a sixpence. You wonder that there still is money in baud: and visibly blame it. And now, to the reluctant delicacy which I have mentioned above, the facts, that the primate wishes every discretion to be used in distribution; that we neither know how much he may have at his command; nor how long our distress may last ; or how fear fully it may possibly be aggravated yet; and sou may find tea sun to be satisfied on this point. Every care is taken to secure assurances on lives as a prominent point; and here I hope we have generally succeeded. 1 aims this day sending down to the diocese of 'Waterford and Usti - lore £SW, the last of the funds within toy reach" I think I need not trouble you with any further extracts. I think of have said enough' to prove what is how my first object that distress exists generally. Ile details, as I said before, I will leave to those who are better able to give them than I can be. I now, therefore, proceed to the second position, to the statement that that distress is Such as to claim general sympathy. And in doing this I shall feel myself called ou to abide y the ditections which have been ju diciously given by the chairman, and abstain from making any allusion to party politics or religious controversies. We have enough of these timings elsewhere. Here, therefore, at least, we may consider ourselves ha the chidren of one great common Father; the disciples of one merciful Redeemer; the worship pers of one Almighty Gest, assenableci•to promote a cause upon which it is scarcely possible there should be any division—the sacred cause of christiau charity. (Loud applause.) Here we may at least consider ourselves as placed on neutral ground, and under the influence of a serene atmospheits, where we may exercise our christian sympathies in harmony and peace. But, in order to prove the proposition which is now befoie me, 1 can hardly express the emotion I feel when called on to prove that which, under other circumstances, would, I should have thought. have been admitted as a self-evident truth. We are here culled together to consider whether we should give food to time hungry, drink to the thirsty, or clothes to the naked; and cuts we doubt the course we shall ensue. We have before us a body of christian gentletimen, accustomed from early youth to sit the indulgences of civilized society, obliged to undergo the gm cutest privations, anti almost reduced to actual star vation; we bud their children*dCprived of educatiouril ad vantages;. we hear of them rOmliged to perform the menial offices of. time households to which th e y t ie i oirie; an d we fi n d where men have attempted to secure a provision for their wives and fellatio: by a life insurance—binding. an addition to the present miseries which oppress them—they are agonized with the distracting and heart-rending thought that, when they are called front this troubled scene, their wives and children will be left to destitution and poverty because they cannot pay the premiums of their life insurances. And, more than this, we see a body of christian' ministers who are appointed to preach the gospel, upon whom a solemn dispensation is laid to preach the gospel in a mantle! which we consider to be the christian truth, and who yet are subjected to persecutions which almost equal the worst persecutions of ancient times; so that they would be reduced almost to desperation and despair if they 'were not able to contemplate the prospect of brighter worlds beyond the grave—to look at - the bright star of redemption which beams on the forehead of Hint who suffered a crown of. thorns and bore the cross fur their sakes, and will cause those light afflictions, which are but for a moment, to work out for them, we trust, a far more exreediug weight of glory. We find men in this situation and yet we doubt whether their dis tress is to be relieved, and this doubt is expressed and felt, I Must confess, by benevolent, and honourable, and conscientious men. It is said by them,—and in what lam now going to say I must be clearly understood us not expressing any sentiments of my own, but merely expressing the sentiments of others as a reason why they do not think fit to relieve this distress,—it is said; by relieving this distress we are Duly playing the game of their enemies, mid enabliug the government to encourage the present rulers of that unhappy country to persist in the policy which they have hitherto pursued—a policy which leads to the merciless persecutiop, by their religious adversaries, of a body of christian ministers will are appointed by the law to preac[i the gospel to the pour--a line of policy which permits a body of proprietors to be robhed and spoiled of their property by a con spiracy, in direct violation of the law, and which yields to deeds of outrage and acts of violence, a body of peosceable and unuf fending subjects. This, sir, is said by them, but I maintain that this argument can hardly be considered conclusive in whatever way we view it: In the first place this argument leaves out of view the peculiar difficulties which surround this most perplex tug questi , )n—difficulties which we know have -perplexed the wisdom of the wisest statesmen, and baffled the kindness of the kindest friends. I should, therefore, maintain, it' it were ever so true, that the Irish clergy were left unprotected, still it can not be our duty to leave them to starve. (Applause.) • What ever may be the, faults of others—l do not mean to say there is any fault anywhere, because that is a question quite foreign to the subject we have in hand—whatever may be the faults of others, I do think in that christian point of view, we shall be iu fault if we permit the Irish clergy to suffer under the miseries that we know they endure. We have only to inquire whether they are in distress, and whether that distress deserves relief. That they are in distress I think can need but very little proof; and that that distress deserves relief i think is a clear fact. But here, 1 'arts sorry to say, another objection arises. It is said by many, that the sufferings of the Irish clergy are self sought, and, therefore, that their miseries are deserved ; an merciful heaven, what a plea is this ! Shall we, the worshippers of that God who makes the sun to rise on the evil and the good-- 1 -Shall we, the disciples of that Redeemer who reconciled himself to ns while we were yet enemies to him—shall we withhold charity until it is deserved—shall we talk of merit who can only sue for mercy ! Forbid it mercy,—forbid it, charity. But with regard to this accusation against the Irish clergy, I should wish uo longer to maintain reserve—l should wish no longer to speak with the language of timidity—l should wish to speak with my tongue boldly as I ought to speak, and to declare, standing, as I do, iu the presence of the God of truth, that I meet that accusation with a direct, and I will add indignant denial. (Cheers.) Ido firmly believe it to Le a cruel and un founded calumny. I believe, on the testimony of, men who would not deceive, that a more faithful, conscientious, exem plary body of christian ministers than the Irish clergy now are does not exist on the face of the earth. (Cheers.) I have nothing to do with former political abuses of the Irish church ; we have only to deal now with things as they are; and I do believe I have not said a single word more than the truth, and I think, when 1 have been able to lay before you the evidence on which 1 ground my own opinion, that you will entertain that opinion also. And the first testimony is from one with whom the whole na tion is acquainted, and who will be here well known from his local connexion with the town—l mean Lord Stanley. He says:—" If the same exertion that has been employed to heap calumnies ou the Irish clergy had beeh employed in publish ing the splendid instances of individual merit which have been found amongst its members, that ehurch would stand at the present moment far above the reach of calumny. The cases of abuse are exceptiuns. The establishment nut only ought to be, but is superior to any other equally numerous body in all the highest duties imposed upon mankind." So says Lord Stanley. It may, perhaps be said that he is a partial witness, and I hope I may be permitted to glory in his partiality. He is a partial witness; he has proved his partiality by the sacri fice of that which is the noblest prize of a public man—the sa crifice of power. But in proving his partiality he has proved his sincerity also; he knows that he is to be believed. The next testimony is that of the late amiable and pious Bishop Jebb, who, whilst in the full exercise ut his ministerial functions, suc ceeded in securing the affections of his Roman catholic neigh bouts. He is gone to his account, but being dead he yet speaks of his persecuted brethren in the following terms In that very province from whence I had adduced a - melancholy in stauce of absentee penury, it pleased providence' to raise up au instrument of good, and that instrument a churchman. If the London committee were asked who, at that period, stood fore most iu every act of beueliceuce and love, they *mad with one voice pronounce the Archbishop of Tuam; from morn to night, front extremity to extremity of his province at once the main spring, the regulator, the minute hand of the whole chatitable system. He proved 4iiinself worthy to rank with Marseilles' lrood bishop, and bend in hand with him to go down to the atest posterity. But such exertions were not confined to the highest orders of the church; from, experience of facts I can testify that the clergy in general were constant, in season and out of season, to meet every emergency. By their exertions the Irish peasantry of these deserted districts (under. providence) were rescued from famine and its attendant, pestilence. Nor did their labours cease with the emergency of 1822. 1 can lay my finger on districts in Muuster where the judicious exertions of the parochial clergy are absolutely creating manufactories and giving new spring and alacrity to the people.. Missionaries of civilization, they are in this way preparing' for the social, moral. and ultimately the religious improvement of a must im provable population." Sir, I Could read a large portion of this book (holding out a'large voitone of parliamentat y evidence) if 1 were not afraid of trespassing too long on the time of my bearers. What I have read is sufficient. I should only wish to read from this book the testimony of Major Woodward, inspec tor of prisons in irela tot I must, as a public-officer whose du ties call site into contact with the lush clergy,declare in com mon justice that were it not tor the residence of the parochial clergy every trace of refinement & civilization would disappear." To this testimony, sir, I would wish to add that of Sir William Parker Carrul, a military man and a Boman catholic, and there fere not likely to have any particular bias in favourof the clergy. He says, in his evidence before the House of Commons, which, though not on oath, was given with the solemnity canal to an oath !—" The character of the Irish clergy is most benevolent and amiable, must eminently so; they are, many of them, mild unassuming men, never meddling with politics, and never throw ing a reproach on WA; religious." Dr. Doyle says that " many of them are extremely 'kind as to acts of benevolence, and their wives and children not leas well disposed, but their means are small." I really don't know, sir, whether it will be necessary for me to go at greater length into this part of mv subject; but at the sante time I should wish to advert to one thing which may per haps be said on the present occasion. It may be asked if the clemgy are as I have described them, what becomes of the nu merous cases of delinquency which are reported in the public prints? To this I am constrained to answer, that I believe a great many of those cases are utterly untrue, and that others are gross exaggerations and misstatements of the . truth; and I ground that belief on some facts which came out iu evidence: before the House of Commons. The same individual whom I have last quoted adduced a great many instances when before the House of Contusions against the clergy, and particularly of cruelty and oppression in the collection of tithes. One of those instances was alleged to have been committed by the Rev. T. Vigors, in the parish of Old Lcighlin. One was that Edward Kavanagh was made to pay ss. tithe for five acres of a barren marshy mountain. On inquiry it was proved that no such man lived iu the parish at all. The next was the case of one Kin • seta, who was obliged to carry a sack of potatoes on his back four utiles to sell them in order to pay the amount of tithes and distrainer's fees, and who had been reduced to misery eversince.. Mr. Vigors denied the fact altogether, and his tithe agent swore that there had only been tour sales to enforce payment of tithes during eleven years, and that he had orders from the rector never in one single instance to enforce it under circumstances of hardship or severity. Again, Mr. Vigors was accused of having ruined one Michael Neill by a distress for tithes.. It turned out on sworn testimony that Neill had ruined himself by his own indolence and extravagance; that his landlord and civil bill clauses were coining on him; that he was about to emigrate to America, and that he had been six years in debt to the par son, who took no proceedings till other creditors had - begun. There were two other important misrepresentations which I must allude to in order to refute the so oft repeated charge of general delinquency, and then conclude. The first is one made by Mr. Sergeant Perrin, (then, I believe, Irish Attorney-Gene ral,) iu his place in the House of Commons. He mentioned a parish, in the county of Monaghan, Magheracloomy, where the Income of the rector was £556 a-year, the said rector residing in Bath, and never visiting his parishioners. This statemeut, from such high authority, was received with thundering cheers. But what were the facts ? The resident curate, W. Ilea - sou, wrote a letter commencing as follows :—" I believe I never read a more untrue statement, and it is surprising that men of rank and education should give utterance to such ungracious statements without due inquiry. I have known the incumbent above twenty years; he has been vicar eighteen, residing constantly for the I first ten. He built and endowed a school, annexing an Irish acre of glebe to it, and spending £5O out of his own pocket. He got a church built, and coutributed £6O. ...klaviustsimpaireaL -his health, he - was ordered to do no duty for two years, and I became his curate. His wife and one daughter died of con sumption, and other daughters being delicate he is forced to visit a warm climate fur their benefit. But still lie always resides six - months every year, - and has nut been in Bath for six or seven years. He pays me my full salary, and gives me a house hand somely furnished, with garden, orchard. &e. I believe I ant the best otiof the two. His tithes are reduced to £332 a year, and he has not, I believe, got above £3OO fram his parish for the last three years." So much for this tissue of untruths, exagge rations, and misstatements. The next is as follows :—Mr. O'Cunuor, adverting to the non-residence of the Irish clergy, said, he had never seen the rector of his own parish ; that the cnt ate lived out of it ; the clerk fiats teen miles if; and that the sexton sold spirits without a license it) the churchyard. Mr. Hall, the curate,!answers as follows :—" I have beeu constantly resi dent iu the parish fur serer years, with the exception of four months. The clerk has beeneonstandy resident six years. The sexton never at any period of his life sold spirits, either with or without a license. Anti this is the way in which the Irish clergy are treated—this is the was in which, in addition to the miseries they suffer, they are calumniated. I feel that it will be unadvisahle for me to trespass longer tom your time; I think I may have said enengh ; 1 will therefore bring my ob servations to a close, entreating you to ponder well what I have said. I eau on ly b eseec h you, by the love of Christ, to have pity on those your distressed brethren, accoiding to your abili ty, and in the name of him who has said fur as much as you have dune it unto one of the least of these my brethren you have done it uuto applause.) The Rey. JOHN LYONS, of All Saints' Church, came forward to second the resolution. He said—Being an !tisk clergyman, and having for several sears discharged toy ministerial oilice that country, the duty devolves on use this day of laying before this respectable meeting evidence as to the nature and extent of the distress mow actually existing amongst ray brethren there. In speaking on this question, We should bear in mind that the distress which afflicts the protestant clergy of Ireland does not end with themselves or their families, it extends not oulyahrough their families and amongst their protestant, but also amongst their Roman Catholic parishioners. It twist be well known to all persons acquainted with the social condition of Iceland, that the hinse of the clergyman has ever been the source front a hence relief has been administered to the sick, to the infirm, to the aged. and to the poor; that there ail his parishioners,..without regard to religious denomination, have uniformly come to seek for the relief of their temporal wants. Therefore whatever dis• tress falls on the clergyman of the parish it must necessarily tell on the Roman Cattodics as well as on the protestants of the dis trict. In relieving then the distresses of our Irish protestant brethren, we are not only relieving them, but we are also ena bling them still to extend the hand of charitable kindnesi to those who are living atutaud them. In former years the pa-_r THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. rishioners and the clergy of Ireland lived on the must amicable terms. Their evidence of this has been shown by Mr. Camp bell. In addition to what has been already stated, 'I may, per haps, be permitted to speak of myself without incurring the charge of egotism. In the.years 1b29 and 183.1 I was curate of a parish in the west of the county of Cork; the parish was large, and many of its protestant inhabitants were unable to attend the church as regularly as they might have desired. lu order to meet this state of things, it became necessary on appointed evenings of the week, both winter and summer, after the labours of the day were over to lecture in different parts of the parish, either in a cabin or iu a school-house. The hour when our meetings began was necessarily late, and the evening and time being previously appointed it was well known in the country when we must have been on the road. During the time that 1 was in that parish I never received the slightest insult from any person, nor'ever heard that any clergyman was insulted or bin dated iu the administration of his duties either by day or night. • But what is now the state of things ? Iu the year 1832 or 1633 a curate was appointed to that parish, (as I taid been called to another,) and he had scarcely been settled in the place when he received notice that if he did not remain at house by night, his life should pay the forfeit for his zeal. The clergy formerly went forth to their duties, returned unmolested to their homes, where smiling faces, and a cheerful fireside, greeted them, and all the sweet charities of domestic bliss were around them. The times are now altered; a dark shadow has fallen on the land. Men who formerly were the liberal dispensers of alms are now compelled to be the receivers of public benevolence to supply their own wants. The door that forineriy was opened at any hour to the applicant must now, in many eases, be doubly barred after the shades of evening have closed around, and the bullet-proof shutter must sometimes exclude the cheerful light of day. And what is the state vvithin these once happy mansions? They are dismantled of furniture, sold to purchase the common necessa ries of life—the table is scantily supplied with the coarsest fare —the voice of gladness is no more heard—the half-clothed fa , mily, like Jacob's sons during the grievous famine, "look one upon another," tearful of hearing the expression of each.other's inward sorrow—while the parents look upon their families with suppressed emotions of anguish, sadly foreboding • yet heavier calamities to fall upon their offspring. And what is the cause of these things? Wbv ate men of uominaily sufficient income, of unblemished character, ef holy zeil s of charitable actions, so stricken, depressed, and lowly ? What has extinguished the fire on the hearth, and driven plenty from the table? What has withered the smile from the lips, and changed the bloom.of health into the ashen paleness of inward disease ? Why are tears ou the cheeks durin g the darkness sf the niaht, and sleep driven from the pillow ? Why canuot the clergy still exercise their liberty, and traverse the length and breadth of their pa rishes to teach and preach Jesus Christ? Why are these things so? A spirit has been brooding over that laud .for many years past, which at length threw its energies into the form of physi cal power,--concentrating itself in one spot; success; then crowned its wicked efforts—impunity. nerved, it with courage, and arising with a giant. strength it dispensed its law of misery, starvation, exile, and death, to all yea° would not crounh be neath its tyranny. That spirit is the spirit of popery, which has seized upon the physical strength . .of Ireland,. and embodies itself in an organised system of opposition to the payment of tithe. I will out calumniate the church of Rowe; I will not bear false witness against her; God forbid it! But I will.speak. the truth. I shall beg, then, with your permission, to read to you the remarks of a celebrated matt on this subject, whose judgment must be decisive of the question : " I'o the statement I have made I may be permitted to add this reflection, with which I wish to conclude this part of the examination to which lam subjected. It is this, that though I have adduced these documents, and gone into the history of the opposition to tithes, I did not do so for the purpose of exculpat ing myself from a charge which has been preferred against me, of having acted in opposition to the law, and by doing so acted in a manner unbecoming my office, and my duty as a - subject. I wish to justify my conduct. In that opposation I have joined, and far from saying I did not, I take to quit& great credit for having done so, and if it should in ther4nd be successful, as I am sure it will, because it is the cause of justice, I shall consi: der myseltas having aided and assisted - in a work of reforma tion, the next best that has been done in Ireland for 300 years. " Did it not so happen that within your diocese this opposition to tithe first commenced, awl to which it. has been nearly as vet confined? I think this last opposition to the tithe system has originated within my diocese. I mentioned on Saturday, however, that instead of endeavouring to exculpate myself upon this matter, as if from blame, I take nu small credit' to myself for having comineticed that opposition, though I regret exceed ingly that it is attended with disasters or breaches of the peace. lu that work did you not express yourself to this effect that you hoped the opposition of the people to tithes would be as lasting as their love of justice? A very happy form of expression which occurred to me, and which I like exceedingly." This is the evi dence of the late Dr. Doyle before the committee of the House of Commons in the year 1832. He acknowledges that lie com menced the opposition, and therefore we cannot be accused of calumniating the church of Rome by bringing such a charge against her. I would beg now also to read to you a letter I bare received within the last few days from a dignitary of the Irish church, of rank and influence in that country, and who is well known to many individuals in this room. He writes thus:— " A respectable fanner, a Roman catholic, with whom I had formed au acquuintauce, and whose mind was so far enlighten ed us to see the errors of popery, but who had not the courage to stand the persecution that always follows the public retrac tion of them, determined at last to dispose of his property iu this country, and retire to America, where he could profess what system of religion be liked without suffering for it. • Oh the day before lie left the country, he came to me, and, after regretting the uecessity of our separation, said, `Now. 1 am going to tell you one thing, which, if it was known I had informed you of, I should not bring my life with ire to the ship.' I begged of him not to tell me; but he said, ' Your kindness has been so utiithrinly shown tome, that 1 could not leave the country for ever without giving you inforniatiou that intimately concerns yi' and the parsons, as they call the clergy iu the south.' He conitnenced iu nearly the following, words, and added ' You may make what use of it you like after I am gone. If the emancipa tion hill had nut passed the lords, (this occurred in the autumn of 1829, and we had apt the slightest idea that the lords would have been so foolish as . to pass the bill,) there was to have been a general stoppage of the paymeut of both tithe.and rent through every part of Ireland. The whole plan was organized, and at a given signal the stand was to be made. The emancipation bill having passed the two houses contrary to their expectation,' the plan has been deferred for two years,and in two years (1831) . the war-cry, will be raised, first, against tithes, and, it' they suc ceed in that, the same warfare is to be curried on against the payment of rent.' I expressed my doubt of the twill of what he said. In answer he said, 'I have now told you the truth, and time will tell whether I atn speaking truth or not.' •I need not tell you the cry was raised against tithes in 1831 by a popish bishop, now no more; and, if success attend that measure, rent will follow of course. 'The Romans,' :said my informant, 'will never rest till they gain the possession of the land-enti drive out the Saxons.' Ihese were nearly his words, and you may make what use of them you like, and my name also.' This conversation took place in the the year 1829. In De cember, 1830, the first opposition to the payment of tithes began in the parish of Graigue, on the borders of the counties of Kil kenny and Carlow, and from thence spread throughout the south' and west of Ireland before the end of 1832. We have here, then, the evidence of Dr. Doyle, shoWing to what source we are to trace the miseries of our protestant brethren. I shall now pass on to lay before you evidence of the nature and extent of those sufferings. It may be, perhaps, needful for the to tell you by what means I have become pcssessed of the present informa tion. We held a pritate meeting in the Blue Coat . Hospital for the purpose of making arraugemeuts for a public meeting. Being then appointed by t e committee as one of the speakers for the preseut .occasion: k forwarded a list of questions to Li merick, Kerry, Cork, Wa erford, Tipperary, and Lougford, in answer to which I have received much painful evidence respect ing existing suffering. It may appear tedious, but it is neces sary that vou should know the full amount of clerical distress contained . in these letters. 'I will first read an extract from a letter from a clergyman in Limerick descriptive of the noble spirit that animates the clergy of Ireland. " Forty-three young men were ordained here, some of them gave up situations and tuitions of £3OO and £4OO, and even in one case of £7OO a year for a curacy. (Hear, hear.) I had upwards of twenty of these young ,men at my house for a prayer meeting a day or, two previous to the ordination. The great majority of the forty-three were devoted and pious men, having a single eve to the glory of God in the work to which they had been called. Any of our English friends visiting Ire land at this moment would never suppose that the clergy were in difficulty or distress, to judge by their spirit and conversation ; all are rejoicing at what the Lord is doing through the. instru mentality of our beloved church. At our clerical meetings nut a word of complaint or murmur, not a word about temporal things, no politics, except they all with one voice raised their protest against the late iniquitous measure, which, while it pro mised and would have given relief from all our embarrassments, would have struck at the root of our very existence as an estab lishment; would have compramised the principle of a national church, and would have handed °vet, bound hand and foot, to the priests, tens of thousands of souls, in 860 parishes !! ! We should prefer to beg or starve rather than listen to such a pro position." I shall now read read you a letter front Kerry : " It happens remarkably enough that I was called on a few weeks since to answer en inquiry similar to yours, made by the primate, through the bishop of our diocese. I am, therefore, furnished with all the information 1 can give, SO as to be able to answer your letter even at this distance from hutur. 'la your queries—Tithe has never been paid in kind in our diocese, ex cept on occasions of wishing to give vexatious opposition, For the last few years the whole of our diocese has been under com position, and, in most cases, the Coinposition has •been deemed a valuable boon by the occupier. I should say the first opposition took place about three years since, not before it became yatteral and violent elsewhere, so that our peasantry. were &thee ytieded, amid forced than-voluntary opponents. • i'llo nut 'eiractly reitietn-' 'her the date, but can assert this as fact, that the, farmers were. universally about to pay the clergy, .iii various instances had done so, when Lord Althorp made a memorable declaration - in parliament of the determivatiou of government not to - assist in enforcing tithe revenue; of course they stopped. paying; and I know one instance in which a clergyman who had received a large portion of iris tithe being tnenaced if he did not refund, and Lord Althorp's speech referred to as a proof that he had no right to denitiud it. The priests have almost universally led the way to resistance, if not openly, by such advice as this,'" Far mers, you may do as you like, but I do not mean to pay tithes, le.c." I never heard of resistance being carried so far as to re fuse to tilt land for the clergy on payment for it. In some iu stances civil process has been successful, in a few equity suits ; sometimes criminal prosecutious, for rescue of tithe distress, ' upon the clergy interfering to obtain mitigation of seutence, has induced a payment. Upon the whole I think heretofore the people would never of themselves have resisted, if they were let alone; but it is impossible to say what effect successful re sistance and impunity may have produced on their spirits; in deed I fear a fatal one, and that the present triumph over tithe will be felt in other departments of the social system, now little thought of. For the state of the clergy generally, it happens it one diocese that, whilst most of then are paupers as ecclesias tics, very few have net some private property of more or, less amount, which prevents the deficiency of tithe income from being yet apparent. The credit of the clergy too continues still, and I am sure that great numbers are involved in debts which were contracted in the prospect of same settlement of the question, and which now leave the debtors en, tirely at the mercy of any creditor who chooses 'to press. I know _- one clergymatt , who has an execution against him for plain clothing for his family; this state of things cannot last; but as I think exaggeration never serves, and souner.ur later impairs the credit of a statement, I am bound to say that matters have not yet, in any instance, arrived at the great extremity reported in other places. Several of the clergy have availed themselves of the 'milky:sr; 'of cour,e,itsdoes .still impend over those who have done so, others who were in circumstances favourable to the collection of tithe were, 1 believe, unwilling to submit to the diminution of income consequent on the million loan. 1 think it right to mention that when the English fund was being ap plied to the use of the clergy I was wiitten to to. state " what clergy in my . neighbourhood might be suffering from want of professional income, and were without other resources." I then looked over the list of our clergy and found few without some other resources, one or two, to whom I mentioned that there was such a _fund, declined to avail themselves of it front motives so becoming to themselves as, I should thiuk, the most prejudiced should admire. Such is the state or things at pre sent in that part of Kerry which lays about Tralee. I shall now call your attention to the.county of Cork, and. previous to read ing this letter, I bare uuly to add, that the state of the writer's health was so bad that he was obliged to employ an ainanueus is. [From this letter it appeared that out .uf a nominal income of .f.:SOJ, due for 1831, the writer had only actually been in the receipt of £BO. It also stated, that after Lord Althorp's state ment in the House of Commons the priests had maple violent speeches in opposition to tithes, and that after that period nu tithes had ever been paid. It also appeared that the writer was in the greatest distress and penury, and that overworking, iu consequence of not being able to maintain a curate and great mental anxiety, had produced a severe illness.] I fear, con tinued Mr. Lyon, I shall be tedious in reading these various do cuments to you; but they are calculated to give you an idea of the state of the clergy in Ireland, and, therefore, I pray you that you will bear with me still with patience whilst I read to you not general details of general suffering, but individual instances written by the anee themselves of their own sufferings and of the sufferings of their families around them. I shall now call your at tention now to the county of Cork, the - state of which is de scribed by a rector of that county. I extract a passage : " I must call your attention to the million fund, which most, if not all, the clergy in this neighbourhood availed themselves of, and which enabled them to live fur a while under the circum stances of the deprivation of their properties. But it is to be observed, that in various instances the money thus received was, I may say, already eaten and drank, and much, the largest portion, of it went, not to. support their families for the future, but to discharge debts coistratted : for their support for the past. It was, therefore, very soon exhausted, and when that was the case they had nu alternative, (such at least of them as had no private properties) if they had not friends able and willing to assist them, but to starve. Friends, God was pleased to provide for them. Several of them I have heard say that they could not have lived were it nut for such assistance. They have, of course, incurred debts, and as the cause still continues those debts must still hang over them.. Aq on this point let rue say a word of my self exclusively. You are acquainted with my family. I have nine children, several of theta grown up, but, as not being; iu cir cumstances to add to the family 'peens, only drawing for that rea son more largely on those means, I have not been able to save but iu order to secure something fir my children after my death, I insured my life, and, being pretty far advauced in years wheu did so, the premiums of two policies of insurance amount to upwards of £lOO a-year. Now, is it not possible for a clergy man to be iu great distress, though not absolutely. starving ? It is too much the custom to consider that the want is but little if they are not brought to an actual state of starvation. Bat rota toes and milk will prevent that extremity. Potatoes and milk will not pay the premium on an insurance amounting to nor relieve the clergyman from the anxious and melancholy fo - rebodhigs of the helplessness and destitution in which he will leave his children when Guil pleased to call him. From those forebodings, I thank God, I have 'hitherto been saved. But how ? By incurring a debt about a year ago of upwards of £2OO, for the purpose of paying may insurance, then due, and discharging other pressing demands (which debt, of ,course, is still hanging over me) and for the coming insurauce, to be due in about three weeks, by the receipt a few, days since of 1.;50 from my bishop, and by, some other aids, *hence supplied cauuut really say, but surely from the good'providence of God —a providence that assisted me before, about a month. since, when I bad to send my two eldest boys up to college and was considerably short of the means of d o ing so , by sending me re lief then also from some unknown so u rc e. Truly I have reason to say `,.hitherto bath the Lord helped me.' In another part of the same letter be says, " I am sure I am beyond the mark when 1 say that hour the year 1818 to 1831, when the opposition commenced, my expenses in legal preceeuiugs for the recovery of my tithes did not exceed £3, not so much owing to any forbear ance on my part as to the regular and satisfactory dealings of the people, which made it quite unnecessary to resort to any ex treme measures to euforce payment of my claims." But 1 fear I ant drawing too long on the attention of the meeting by read mit this documentary evidence. (Hear.) I shall only read you a very short extract fi um another letter. A clergyman thus writes : " I am indeed acquainted with one family, chiefly young ladies, who, from competenoe, have been so far reduced as to become anxious for the situatien of governesses, and Who afterwards, when situations becamo vacant, were for some thne obliged to decline them from the actual want of decent clothing." A beautiful spirit of cbristian love pervades all these letters. There is contained in them the manly avowal of wrongs received, and the open acknowledgment of sufferings endured, yet there is no railing accusation against the authors of these wrongs, nor of unholy murmuring against the God who permitted these af fliCtions. Patience and resignation, and thankfulness—" re joicing with trembling"—shine brightly through these letters. They are evidences to the world that the truth preserved in the united Church of England and Ireland has the Lord, the Spirit within it. And still we draw back from expressing the value that we place upon this truth. Shall we hear of our brethren struggling amid difficulties, and ready . to faint beneath their burden, and lend them no assistance in their hour of utmost need. It cannot, it must not be so. The spirit that animater the martyred suns of England's church has not yet wholly de parted—the footsteps of the Saviour, "who went about doing good," are not yet erased fr om th e vidw of faithful men—the sympathies of the great High Priest of our profession has not ceased to vibrate nu our ears and hearts—the kindly feelings of our nature are not yet blunted and seared by the blighting in fluence of that church which would hold back the rightful pro perty from its owner, and crush the temporal and spiritual li berties of the victims of its delusion—that church which plun ders the people of the bible, and virtually robs them of their Sa viour. (Applause.) Let us then arise in the cause of God and his truth ;—let us stand by our protestant brethren and show, as far as our influence reaches and our mesas will allow, that we are determined, according to our ability, to stay the enemy that would endeavour to starve protestantisin out of Ireland, and thus undermine our church in this land. Let us then, by libe ral contribution, prove that it is the desire of our hearts to re lieve a brother's woe, and alleviate a parent's anguish. The rev. gentleman sat down amidst loud and general applause. The CHAIRMAN put the resolution, which was carried by ac clamation. The Rev. Huerri M'NetnE said, the immediate object, sir, of the resolution entrusted to my charge is a request that pecu niary assistance may now be afforded fur the relief of the distress which has already been proved to exist. Before' you can be ' fairly asked to enter into a liberal subscription, you have a right to demand that we should show you sufficient cause; because, ' although there not only is, as has been already stated, a very ' general report of the existence of distress, but the public prints • contain a variety of details also well calculated toexcite our sym pathies and command our liberality, 'yet the inhabitants of etch town as they are successively requested to join in the sub,erip- Got% may very fairly require a renewed statement of the facts of the case; and if - regressive impiiry shall have called forth ' fresh facts, then those also, and I may say chiefly, should be publicly made known. Connected as lam with Ireland, though ' not with those districts where distress at present prevails—in ' vited by a numerous cominit•ee both of clergy and laity, to take part iu the 'proceedings of this day—cordially desirous to co . operate with all my brethren in every lawful effort having for its object the support of our common christienity, and therein es pecially of our established church—and supplied with facts such as those which have been. largely communiciated, and which I shall not much further enter into—l now stand in this responsible situation, wherein, with pure intentions, I have full confidence in my God that he will enable me to be of use, and wherein, permit me to add, I have confidence in this assembly, that if, on the one hand, I am able to impart any information, to urge any appeal, to advance auy argument calculated to aid and enforce the sacred cause we have in hand, full weight will be allowed to such statements, without any detraction on account of the want of station, rank, or personal influence in their advocate: (Hear.) And that, on the. other hand, should I unhappily, be betrayed into anything which yen, sir, or others, may deern_a mistake, you will not ascribe it to any sinister or unworthy motive. (Applause.) I would not further advert to the letters we have received from Ireland, but that one in my possession contains intelligence of a semewhat different character to what has gone before. I have many of that kind by me, which I have removed out of the way, seeing information of the character they contain has been largely submitted to your no tice; but this letter is of a different character, it . is from a gentle man who tells me I may make his name as public as I - please. The gentleman is Mr, Dwyer, secretary of the Clerical Society of Ireland. He says, "To authenticate facts I have only to say, that I have for upwards of a year acted as secretary to the Clerical Society of Ireland, and therefore have become inti mately conversant with, the melancholy details of the sufferings which the clergy are patiently enduring. I have by me a book in which are recorded the answers to the following query ' Has the income of your benefice been always paid, and is it likely to continue so r To this we have 1077 auswers-321 in cumbents say that they are paid-756 say that their incomes had ceased altogether to be paid, and were likely to remain unpaid, owing to the direct interference of Lord Althorp's speech, and the combination produced by agitation of the priests, as appa rently countenanced by the whig government. The sufferers, then, amount to 756"--observe, this is , the number of iucuni bents, independently of the curates necessarily involved in the sufferings of the rectors and vicals-" some of whom, having • private means, I would not be justified in. saying that all are suffering want. I may fairly, however, from . the details given, estimate those who are in indigence at upwards of 200 indivi duals, and of those reduced to galling and degrading dependence upon the bounty of their friends and other casual and voluntary support to about dangle that number. I shall now give you some naked facts, and the only comment I shall make on theca is, that give the names on the faith. that you will feel. the delicacy that accompanies their disclosure. Gentlemen of education shrink front an exhibition of their distress to excite sympathy ; and I have known their suffering endured in silence, which only required exposure to have ensured relief. The Rev. late a scholar of Trinity College, Dublin, with an income of £9O per annum, and a congregation. of 60 pi . utestants, has had his income withheld for two years. He has a glebe of ten acres, tinder a rent of £4O per dllllUll4 which is more than double the • value of the laud. He tics been compenedio part with the Pro duce of the land to satisfy:the landlord,: who will net pay the tithe, and has been thereby reduced tosuch an extremity of want as to have deprived him of his reason." here is a fresh • feature in the case, fur the sake of which 1 nave adverted to this letter. From what we have heard it is perfectly clear that the - distress endured by the Irish clergy at . this time is of the most painful character—that they have been obliged to part with their furniture, their books, and even 'their beds, selling or pledging these articles fur the purpose of procuring the necessa ries of lite ; their life insurances, for a long time sustained, though with difficulty—fur it has always been a matter of diffi culty to pay the annual . premium—are now left to the casual I support of christian synipathy, and in some instances actually forfeited. The education of their childreu has been suspended ; some of their sous brought from school to be employed in the plainest operations of agriculture, in order to assist the father to procure a supply of potatoes fur the mother and sisters. Nay, even in a few instances, this last resource has failed, and actual hunger.has been endured.. Oh, it is easy to talk of such things: it is easy to speak of hunger at a distance ; but if these facts now so largely laid before you were not only hearkened to, but en , tered into with anything approaching the liveliness of christian sympathy—if we were enabled to present before you the hus band and father in the silence of manly sorrow, strengthening himself, while he feels. his situation as a man, to bear it is a christian—if we could present before you the wife and mother, in the tender fortitude which belongs to the sufferings of the softer sex, endeavouring to conceal her anguish lest she should add to that of her husban4 7 ,striving, perhaps, to smooth his brow by assuming a tone of cheerfulness foreign to the feelings of her heart, the amiable design of which defeats its own object by adding tentold bitterness to his cup, in the consciousness that he has no means of comforting such a partner—if, turning away our eyes from the parents, and looking across the scantily furnished apartment, we could direct them to their children— the elder ones, uuder some mental centred', eieleavouriug to catch and imitate the meekness of their mother, the younger, not yet able to feel anything beyond animal instincts, yielding to their sorrows in piercing and agonising cries —oh, instead of wondering that our Irish communications record one instance of derangeineut, our wonder would be that there was only one. For assuredly such a tempest of feeling, without any human prospect of returning calm, would be sufficient to account for the most appalling aberrations of human reason. (Hear, hear.) Thanks be to God for his unspeakable grace, our brethren have been preserved fur the most part in calmness and peace—pre served in patient submission to his will. •Everything has tended to render their eudurance difficult. There is nut, sir, a stronger feeling in human nature than indignation against injustice. We know how the man who will liberally unit-cheerfully spend and give away pounds and ill inns will rise in vehement resist ance against being imposed upon even to the value of a few pence. Assuredly not because of, the amount, but because of the injustice. 1 say that our Irish clerical brethren have been treated. with the roust shameful injustice. (Load cheers.) Ac- Dec,L, , ,ILEIt 11. 15:35. cording to the laws of the land in which they live, landlords ate. entitled to their rents, and clergymen to their tithes. Some of our brethren in the ministry rent the houses they live in ; some of them rent also the adjoining fields. The landlords in many instances held farms in their parishes. Now, if impartial justice were done, the clergyman should pay his rent and the landlord . his tithe. If impartial injustice were done—if I may be allowed, the expression—wh e re th e one p a y men t b e withhold, Ise should be the other. But what •is the fact ? The fact is, that the clergyman is refused his lawful dues year after year, mud refused by the very man who puts him into the hands of the sheriff. because he does not—he cannot pay his rent. (Loud ap plause.) This is aggravating injury by insult. - This is a re- ~ finement of cruelty, differin g , from the cruelty of a savage tribe • in the same w a y as th e rac k , an d t h e wheel,• and all the other wire-drawn ingenuities of torture in the Inquisition, differ front the dagger of the assassin, or the brickbat and the bludgeon or an infuriated rabble. (Applause.) It is more than human na ture can endure, unless restraiuedaudgegulated by divinegrace• Yet all this has b ee n en d ure d pa ti ent l y — wit h a mee k ness truly marvellous—with a silence—with a shrinking from observation. which has been justly described by one who has preceded me as verging towards fastidiousness. (Hear.) It does, indeed, appear strange and hard to be accounted for. It can only be. resolved into one of those mortal phenomena, which, while they ' elude the investigations of philosophy, do from time to time force themselves upon the observation. I mean an anomaly in. the Irish character. If' it be t rue , as un h app il y must be con fessed, that the Irish character in the gross presents features re volting to a civilised community, it is equally undeniable, that when refined at all, it receives a pre-emiueut polish, and mani fests a pre-eminent purity. (Hear.) An educated Irish gen tleman, with all the fire, and all the fervour, and all the bold en thusiasm which belong to hint in every case where public prin ciple. is concerned, or the atone and character of his friend a re called in question, is nevertheless, in all that belongs to personal, private, and domestic matters, peculiarly modest and retiring (Cheers.) It is a fact, though it may not strike on your judg ment at first hearing—but it is a fact well known to accurate observers of Irish character, that such a man cannot speak as s others often speak; of th e i r d omes ti c a ff a i rs, an d espec iall y o r their wives and children. I will not attempt to pursue the cease of this further than simply to remark, that it may in sortie do- gree be accounted by the nature o f th e i r domestic associations,. , I have alluded to their wives. And I will not be deterred by , any dread of the charge of vanity or of undue love of country, from affinities: concerning them, that--1 will not say amongst' the habitations of men, or amongst the courts of kings, in all their glory—but I will say that amongst all the works of God its this fallen creation of ours, not excepting the soft folds of the lily or the. tints of the vernal rose there is nothing more exqui sitely refined—more copstrainingiy refining, than the heart and :hind, and tnanners of au educated Irish lady. (Loud cheers.) But the subject wears a far more serious aspect than individual , suffering, however acute, can at any otte period p esent. wears a continuous and ati increasing aspect, —continuous stud ' increasing in itten a degree, and with,eueh characteristic fea tures, that the very eSt taice church is endangered. (Hear, hear.) I Say not the church Ireland, but the protestant estahlielaedichurch. It is but out church; and - it' the Irish branch tie sweet away, the power that_ has gained such an advantage will attack with redoubled force and with redoubled effect the English branch also. (Much ape plause.) I desire to speak within due bounds of truth, not indeed within what some men are pleased to call prudence. I desire to speak with temper, but 1 desire to speak with firmness. Sir, if the assailants of all we hold most dear iu the institutions of our coun try, be encouraged in their utmost violence—if it be deemed meri torious in them to persevere in their attack! with the most un abated vigour, under the plausible pretence of improving what they are in fact undermining unto destruction ; while from false delicacy, or mistaken prudence, the friends of those institutions who attempt to repel the attack, are frowned upon as injudicious: If while the besiegers are busied day and night in sinking their , trenches, and perfecting their parallels, and preparing their vole lies ; the besieged are to continue too gentlemanlike and too peaceable to attempt any sallies for defence, what must the end be, what ought' it to.bes but confusion, and ruin, and degrade - , tion, and shame to such a dastard garrison? I allege, then, that it would be a great and grievisus mistake to suppose that the present opposition to the payment of tithes owes Its origin to any recent occurrence. It is not to be traced to the proceed ings of the present government, or the late government, or any British government. It is not to be traced to the alleged abuse, hi the patronage of the Irish church, or to the conduct in days that are, gone of the Irish clergy. No; to attribute it to any, such causes is to deceive the inquirer, by fixing his attention on merely superficial symptoms and not going to the root of the in veterate disease. And here, sir, I would say that an attempt to reach the source of this disease, is strictly within the limits of the subject before the meeting. It is held - to be perfectly within the live of propriety, in every investigation, whether philoso phical, medical, political, or religious, on proof of the actual existence of an evil, to endeavour to trace so tar as fair data can, s be referred4O, the causes of that evil. I affirm that the present opposition to tithe is - but a modern aspect of an ancient and or-. ganised conspiracy. (Hear.) Doubtless that conspiracy has been affected in its operations by the proceedings of govern ment and parliameut at various periods, sometimes restrained, sometimes encouraged. Doubtless, its hopes of success were considerably diminished by the improved system of church pa tronage introduced by the Earl of Liverpool. Doubtless, its inveteracy has been increased by the improved spirituality and zeal of the clergy; while at the same time its power for present • mischief and ultimate triumph has been incalculably augmented by the parliamentary proceedings of the last six years. But. , although all these things have affected the proceedings of the , conspirators the conspiracy it s elf i s a nt ece d en t t o , an d i n dee pendent of t hem' all. I - do nut ground this assertion upon any - assumption or reasoning of my own . but upon evidence given before committees of both Houses of Parliament. Major War:. burton described-the organization of a conspiracy, whose ob jects he declared to.be the establishment of the Roinish religion in Ireland, the extrrpat inn of protestentism, and the separation of the two countries. H e described its continuous operations in whicle he pointed out one short intermission. Fur this intettnissien he accounted by saying that "the conspirators imagined that the English rsidicais would withdraw from them a support on which they had previously relied, and leave them without the power of accomplishing their designs."—(Lords, 26th May, 1821,--= Mr. EN her declared himself centittent that these plans were not contrived by the peasantry themselves, but that there were some prime movers, who had not been discovered.—[Lords, June 1, 1834.J —Mr. O'Connell declared that the oath a of obe dience .and secrecy , which are faithfully obser ve d i u bath rib bonism (1: e. the conspiracy) and in the disturbances in the • '- south of Ireland, are so vigorously enforced, that prosecutors must be provided for by government, as they dare not return to live among their friends.—[Commons, March I.lB2sl—Such, continued Mr. M'Neile, wa s th e s t ate o f t hi ngs in 1825. It re quires little sagacity to compreheud the effect that meet have • been produced - on such a state of things by the events th t have since taken place in England. One thing on which it is here stated the Irish conspirators depended, was theassistance of the English radicals,—so much so, that on one occasion. appre hending that that assistance would Le withheld, they p.OO Ira to abandon the plan of the conspiracy. Such assistance has been largely given—given, not only by the revoletit n sts, who desired to foment the mischief, but by high-minded, eloquent, liberal men, who designed nothing but gond: Such men ap peared before the British public as the apost'es of liberality, while they were complacently beheld by the Irish conspirators, as the infatuated pidneeis of their grand object. (Loud cheers.) Those conspirators saw that it was snit , by the door of fashi"n able liberality that the citadel of the British constitution, ieelu sive of the protestant church, could he effectually assailed. They therefore publicly encouraged, and flattered, and fawned upon, while they secretly laughed at, these men, who were the elo quent advocates of equal rights, while they were weak en i ng the principle which alone could successfully resist the progress of the Irish conspiracy, namely, the principle of genuine new tels tament chi istianity supported by a christian state. (Much cheer ing.) This mode of procedure went on with fatal success. Aided by the defection of Protestants from the more advised principles of their forefathers,—aided by the defection, for in stance, of suck nieu is Charles Brownlow, Esq., the hon. mein bee for Armagh, and accelerated to the pace of a steam-carriage by the-burning eloquence-of your late incomparable represen tative George Canning,—on, the wings of the wind thus raised Mr. O'Connell got himself returned to parliament in defiance of the late of the land, and before the pressure of the storm, thus condensed and overwhelming, the Duke of Wellington and Mt. Peel committed the national crime of 1829. I borrow the term "national crime" from Mr. Prebendary 'lownsheriti, who used it at a meeting similar to the present, convened at Durham", and I was struck with the appropriateness of the designation. It is true that security was taken for the preservation of our national church, confirmed by the ultimatuut of security, the • sanction of an oath. - How that oath has been treated is matter of history. But it if worthy of observation that there was my flagrant v.olatiou of that oath till the further progress of parli aineutury mestsures returned such, a House of Commons as gave a fair prospect of advantage to the objecti of the conspiracy arising out of such violation. The final success of the couspte racy is the grand point. For this oaths are kept: for this oohs are broken, us the expediency of the case may from time to time require. All must yield to this. Here we have the true answer to the plausible argument so often urged in defence of Roman catholic veracity, from the fact that Human catholica were lot years excluded from parliament by their reverence for au oath. It is manif es t th a t a vio l at i on of that oath could out have tor warded the interests of the conspiracy. Seats in parliament; as the law then existed, could not have been made available for the attainment of ultimate objects. Many collateral points were indispeusable to the efficient working of Homan catliolic.mein tiers, and all those points would have been incalculably re tarded, if not wholly defeated, by such a premature and undieg guised dehauce of all faith with heretics. Present faith was kept, not for truth's sake, but for the Wain end of' the conspiracy: This is agrave.cbsiege, Instal slo not edywricesit.withisut pea-- proof out of the mouth of the most influential'reader . of the dee ceittul system. It is true that Popery in theoryis not answer able for all the sayings of Dr. Doyle; but it is equally true that Irish popery in practice was powerfully influenced by tit , se sayings. I will now call your attentiou briefly to a:few ;Answers of Dr. Doyle, in 1824, and beg you to coMpare them with wt tit you have already heard of the evidence pi Dr. Doyle, in 1832. I. am convinced," he says, "iu my soul, and I never ipoko inure from the feelings-of my heart than Ido at this moment, that if we were freed from the disabilities tinier which we la bour, we should have no mind, and no thought, and lie will, but that which would lead - us to incorporate ourselves fully and essentially with this great kingdom. * * * I thiiik, if emancipation were carried, the whole catholic population would consider their grievances as it were at an end, and those ob stacles which exist to the improvement of their a/edition, and the general interest of their own country, as removed. • 1 , I have never discovered in any class, ur in any individual of the cathode religion, any disposition hostile to the protestant established religion. * * * They, (the Irish clergy) hay! certainly a legal, just, and good right to the property they hold. You have heard the language quoted by Mr. Lyons, in whicie Dr. Duvle justifies his opposition to the law on which this "legal, "just, and good" right is founded, and trusts that the opposition of the catholics to tithes would be as enduripg their love of justice. And this is how the same man ! NV hat is the solution ? It is simply this, that allegiance to the law was laid down in 1824, when emancipation was the object of the conspirators, and resistance to the law was preached in 1832, after emaucipation had taken place. (Great applause.) Befegr! 1829 the language was, "Gain emancipation by all means, tamsehood intru ded. (A laugh.) "But suppose we should be called upon to swear we do not aim at anything b e yond ?". "Never mind; swear anything, but get emancipation." (Loud cheers.) "By getting that," they argued, "wee plant our foot on new ground; we cuter upon a campaign of parliamentary intrigue, and iu the present state of England—lukewarm, di' vided, half-protestant England, we shall have a lever whereby to wrench protestantism out of Ireland." (Cheers.) This was the object of the conspiracy, and so far fearfully has it suc ceeded. From this object popery can never voluntarily recede. She can, and does, and will deny it, so lung a s a ny additional means towards the attainment of it can be secured by the de nial; so lung as she can find influential En g lishmen, i g norant enough of her character, to take her at her word. 13ut finally give it up she cannot. lu proof of this, I refer to one of those documents which the Irish conspirators are taught to look upon as sacred. It is a bull of Pope Urban VIII., heeded "A s a fu twain liei memoriam," dated at Houle in the Vatican, or Gtr Peter's Palace, the 25th day of May, 1643. • •• • A full and plenary indulgence and absolute remission of all their &c., to all who gallantly do what lieth in them, to extirpfito - O d totally root out those workers of iniquity who, in the.kingl loo3 of Ireland, bud infected and are always striving to infest, fee mussof catholic purity with the pestiferods leuveu it gait Leas_