The Northern Daily Times. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1856-12-04 00:00:00

NORTHERN TIMES.-LIVERPOOL, THURSDAY. and for f ar si x 50 0 on the materials in the contracter's yard, Arebe_nionths. In reference to the memorial from the A t tu co..ecleral Society, as to the employment of officers of Arseeerporation on private business ee , it appeared from the refep r ,,Pgs of the committ that the case specially t ju scan:. e l3 „,..the memorial Was the em . ployme . nt of Mr. for b at and Air. Rishton on an arbitration case in Bolton, so' a e c e t aY'd that they had the sanction of their committees eh t eeOrn . ,„.. 4 _ lCl errilan S. Holme moved the confirmation . of the the trlelarations. He said--Although the proceedings of t It sPert at a le coMmittee are voluminous and somewhat eas es • vvitli the exception of two or three special call s cwolch were referred to us, there is nothing which s 'iar e °r any comment from me. ' With regard to the i‘ k esSit e s s . 1 1 , 1 "Que"ht egainst the ocers of the . baths by arr and Fowler, the special committee, as you Nth "hard," investigated all the circumstances connected th• e ase, and found that all the charges van' n hed Niat„..'n air, e (Hear hear ) There was no foundation v e r ior them, and the . officers of the corporation elsis exonerated, by the report of that committee, from I t he received by penny in the way of bribes. (H ifc'earras,t,reecurnmendation in treasurer'sthepaper has referenc e a to - standlat - Merits in the office, consequent on ° Promoti ons ; but that recommen d a t io n must 11 , - :,er, in eccord ee with the standing orders, to 'sea counCil. Th7next recommendation is that ofa a Wei "bthe e nbe passed forbidding all officers or servantss els at e ZP, °ration from engaging in any private . business to 1 ,• That recommendation was passed in con h. :et, ,-i%a Memorial which was sent in from the Arc 1- ' 3 °Pietv and specially referred to the finance itP The'have specially referred to the finance th They have taken the subject into considera- Obli e e h ' they of opinion that it would be . tor the at ° 1. 4 01 - ii ne nt , and more consistent with . justic h e Ouse e officers should engage in any private h fi s r in m e a s . s 4) ,,s of e t r e ; and I have therefore, to move the con ele Al recommendation which I now do. . the - " Q ' cl errnan J. H. Turner ' seconded the motion. on b . • ter e lfree • Is there not a standing order already ii ro,,, sse s I to i that effect ?' et t lerei tt , ere No; but there has be?n .. an understanding •' , ,,,i' r evailing for a longA period of time to that certain There is no resolution on the books except as to jperes in my office. 1 , 4 t8 ef e ,.? l "vith: Does that resolution refer Halle ser hlr' Tone corporation engaged in the Town? i'? w ,r l Clerk : Yes. . h„gl --° K with • That is paltry in the extreme, and it ,l s gracelul to the: council if it be entered on the 4 '', o 4 B 3 l a ;ti , a . t a servant . in the Town Hall . cannot, ".X Ms own disposal, earn a few shillings by w i a n iting -- , (11 1) of the corporation's table. 8s gin 'llde e r r an Dover concurred with Mr. Beckwith. e th m e servants of the Town Hall the p h g 'ap eei ur th em by Mr. Beckwith, would be to make t ?in Ort he - e' hl e , and to cause them to continue in the service O Uoeil. 4 teel i ,an asked if the resolution prevented the wives , ,trien from engaging in any small business? litYor : We have nothing to do with their wives. e",.e ter.) tor t •• nee r e sele ree son also concurred with Mr. Beckwith. He Oeiv• it would be well to prevent . those officers " s litiN large salaries from engaging in any private 'l f 040 8 . but it was cruel to prevent men in . the receipt . f Y • ai p i a week, from earning a few shillings more if oes . Y could. c'r ' l tee 2h, n Stewart thought ;that the resolution was extreme view. The object of it was . i tl "; P e e l l e d t-h- 7l ri a r a g e v r e " at Cheat, to officers, but he did not_ understand that it men earning a pound or so. He thought a ta ted go r ge offic s of the corporation should be pre the4.(lgazer rivate business, and that was t 4 s P o e i a t ti t o h e e %nir i n n iftee l h P ad in view when they proposed !jhreje'litA,...lelernoa. an . Cooper asked if the resolution would 'Titl e , 7.1% Newlands from holding the office of consulting gr Mr;‘ ° .„„sonse of the townships ? Ttishaiti.ise'alt.kaorloe4ebserved that Mr. Newlands, from his might often he of the greatest ,°e ti...servie • .ge,. city and they should .I.' er ef e acting in such a cape , t ' t a a o • °re, cautious that they did not prohibit a man Ole ;r i ng that which would be beneficial to themselves.. the rural I t• Jeffer said that as a commissioner of er,e, district of Toiteth Park, he could assure shat iaocil that it was of the greatest importance 4°,llXtet,FT: Newlands should be permitted to continue as , Ib fa r _,engilaeer to that board. The time might s t 2 l 4 uistant when the boundaries of the borough ic u ,race -av ,e tO be extended, and when it might bpt, and or part of the rural district of Toxteth 4/ I ', l Ness e - s "...i p t .Was therefore of pecuniary interest to the e h e th e ei tne borough that the sewerage should be one ste. ° . is di s s t a me throughout the entire drainage .. area of the selaee r l ct. Mr. Newlands, from his ability as borough ei r 4 , l t l ;l i n. the only person to whom the out townshis sh4-llieets;.e confidenc refer for guidance under the 1101 res, prevented it ould be therefore wise that he coe he from acting in the capacity of te as tlitlasulting engineer. (Hear, hear.) It was qu r ite . li s t he received no fixed salary, but he (Mr. Jeff h e t y e ) h, l) ,reils; S orry it' the council were to go away wit h ti \ i " , )4 a ;on that Mr. Newlands would'receive no remuned h:t if ;3 1 all for his services. But it should be remembered Ole e a bounds of the borough were extended it io wou ro d . a f tY of the council to augment his salary p t - "es ` 1 ,,,.° his increased services consequent on increased ° e a ° . ( r e hoped that - Mr. Holme would have no objection . te e r e ee to Mr. Beckwith's . suggestion, and refer the t kack to the committee. a ld ertnan Holme replied that he had no objection the se r eeo ullrse. e t t ' r utee tt l t Tnendation was accordingly referred back to 1 4 5 0 ''ilie k p l o c i r ,rOan, S. Holme : The next subject is lee„. - o itance, and one . which was referred sometime It is with reference to . the tea ?as pullance committee. *' 3 t °, Salt to Mr. Mansfield, our stipendiary le'jleelitpatee; salary this question it become urgent for . m d e sf e I t• he attention of the council . for s a short peri . o se, t be J i ve the reasons which have induced a m o a o jor th it t y s lit,e'4%lollllelittee to recommend this , increase. Ap' lll4 e big e ry much regret the absence of Mr. Hornby, p t s ° o lvit :rat weight and influence would have great Ivo! s ed t l 4l ea council, l and because I know that this t e li n c e r n se of sa ary to Mr. Mansfield would meet i l l l 'Yr n e Prence. r. A te - C • No, no. (Hear, hear.) triati riatiS. Holme: I had it from himsel f. ( Hear, 4 4 t tle will state to the council, before I procee d fu r ther, in eroesoluyon was not unanimously agre ed to the tI po s . In roittee—(hear, hear)—and althoug h it is lble—and I anticipate that there w f ill be—seme e T the council on this subject, yet . satisfied co l 'l l4l and dispassionate consideration of all the_ th`sxts orectea with the case will carry conviction to the s elae' e t °„any, and will, I hope, tempt them to increase „- Ree t 'd °I Mr. Mansfield, as not only an act o . justice to ts a ci• l.ZPatt hims lf but as an act of justice to this ali t 7tire" „741:_c) r ecommended e him for the . appointment to the ile' l epab.;'. I hold it to be an inviolable principle, that f°r,stesi; no offices should be filled by men of high talent tPduties'agegrity—that they should be fully competent eept, they are called on to perform, and that t i e e r i . sl„ee -es Quid be in pro ortion to the duties to be p k er ,lae well as to the P previous education and training f bfh,e,,t 'd-eetviduals t r ot' skill is particularly when a high degree . o I have no intention 15114 ar la ' see. r cl- tuations turned into refuges 111 e °ale. seeing public the lowest estimate 1 4 iE tt etents nor would I accept d si n n ally, we are frequently iu the habit of mistak g' and I utterly repudiate, as untenable and un or ie ° ,l t .ee e s e : tnr oen saying, which we so often hear, " oh, if elvi i re vacant to-morrow you could find a number ea l ci e: al , s who would take it for less money." 1 know 'sr be lttear, hear.) I know that plenty of men 41°11.talieuild who would accept the office of surveyor teN i sle a year, and would be dear at the ivt ia ‘'eeate hear.) I know there are also plenty k for p n l l e e n r tyof (it y e iv a atild Undertake the duties of the town 46, 1 % h, r . and they would be stilhldea, is to engage menrer at the price. it liel r •) True economy, I submit, thnlehb l 'eat ability, and to make . _their_ salaries em fully 0 1 7 1 1. "'trate with the duties which permit tec, lo Rl C , ll ear, hear.) Perhaps the council willyou demand nd from appoint ttletef 'lice for a few minutes, at the original t l eet t 'Prt s tPendiary magistrate. Many will remember 4 1s' all .....° l ls to the passing of the Municipal Reform kl At the Magisterial duties of the town were done by ttle,:tee ni r arid the magistrates of .r . that day, who were lle e 'llee t ,;vho had passed the chat , but, at that time the 1 8%' . it.'t duties were not one-fifth of what they are 4"allitij r • Hall was appointed the first stipendiary Ga s in Liverpool, with a salary of 4'1,000 a was found that the dock busi :l 4, 4 14 11 rie afterwards it year. nestevecome so increased, that . it would be better that . 1 4 111 be" be transacted along with tho ordinary maps lielpsroS4iness of the day, and the result was, that it was elle 4 felF t ed with the other magisterial busiwnehseso, Mr.and 0 year. i gte l , Is e ," salary raised to £. 1,3 111 1 - ` l ten made chief magistrate of Bow-street, Mr. 41 1ello ah w i as appointed at a salary of £1,300 pr annum, h• 4 4 h.- , which had been previously paid to Mr. Hall, l eh ' 4 kti 6 .. ,eeease, a special committee was appointed, of / N. ° LIS the honour to be chairman, to consider the L t s Z a i ßee l s e l :iects connected with the administration and '" f ant of the details of our Police Courts, and also it let 4 suitable person to recommend to Government 1, 441 , es tl 'at e ! °3 l 3 ortant situation of s i . pen o d s i s a to r o y m a a a gi t s o tra t t h e e . o f ' 4ll3 e there was a long disco. to their contem -11,410 Ba larY which should be g aufhagietrate. Some thought thative £lOOO a year was !VIA that to begirt with. Others, on the other hand, y reasonable 171: 1 Q 11 srai at '1,200 a year would be ''' l e . 'ler - e.."" for the increased duties which Ch'ed, and one gentleman, if 1 recollect rightly, origi had then to baby bee -a t the sum of £1,300 a year, which had _ 1 4 t 111 4 4 a bse ll g taid to Mr. Ruston, whose salary, by the hY "t'. t to e e ntly been raised to should be the s tate d Paid to the contemplated stipenoiary.. But l P 4 4 Me in the committee, at the time, of which I:fellatt,Ppo-islittdel,istvvinct recollection,. that, as the gentleman t k a thetia t n as an untried man, it would be wiser to le,:efa, t % it hes' ine council to give him £l,OOO, on the R io lea Performed the duties of the office to the masts, to " 1 the public, it would be easy, at a future 4 ; 5 44 1 .11 0 . 1 1d r a a t t i o se n it to . the (Hear, hear.) That recommended to the prevailed, and 1 Q 4 41 1 11.3 s v e `i e at the first app intment, £l,OOO a year, t 0 g was of opinion that it would have been tittles t 'e *1,200 a year, looking at the nature of torsi 4 1 °141:, be performed, and looking also at the Brent ilneeary in a Stipendiary magistra.te sewn like ss this. Let me now contrast the THE salary and duties of the stipendiary magistrate of Liver pool with those of the same officers of two or threeother places. By a recent act of Parliament, the salaries of the Metropolitan magistrates were raised from in £minl,ood 0 to £1,200 a year; but we must bear that each police office in the metropolis has two magistrates, and that those gentlemen sit alternately; and, although it may be said that they sit from an early hour in the morning to a late hour in the evening, it does happen that during the middle of the day, those gentlemen are for a long period unemployed, and that, by a convenient arrangement between the two stipendiaries of each office, instead of sitting on alternate days, when it suits their convenience, they sit alternate week's or fort night's. and occasionally a magistrate is absent six weeks at a time, the other magistrate doing all the business. I will now quote from the return obtained by Lord Goderich of the average number of cases disposed of by each stipendiary magistrate within the year. In London each magistrate disposes of 3,800 cases annually. I next t ake the City of Manchester. There the stipendiary has £l,OOO a year, but the number of cases upon which he adjudicated during the last year amounted to 18,095. Salford, which is, in fact, a component part of Manchester, pays its stipendiary £B4O a year, and the number of cases which he disposed of in the same time was 6A,307. Wolverhampton, with 4,587 cases, pays its stipendiary £l,OOO a year. Hell, with 7,420 case=, pays 't4oo Staff ird, with 7,228 pays its stipendiary £BOO a year. Brighton, with 730 cases, pays £BOO a year; and Worcester, whose moral character seems to stand high, with 457 cases, pays £3OO. From this it will be seen that the cases disposed of by Mr. Mansfield is only about 1,500 less than the total number of Manchester and Salford, though the joint salaries of their two magistrates amount to £lB4O per annum. (Hear, hear.) I next contrast this with other legal appointments. I will take the County Court Judges. Their salaries generally speaking are £1,500 a year. The Bankruptcy Commissioners again have £l,BOO a year, and though the aovernrnent are not generally considered very liberal in granting high salaries, yet these Government servants have, after a certain number of years, the right to a retiring pension which it is incom petent for this council to grant to its stipendiary. Now we have four or five years' experience of Mr. Mansfield, and we can testify to the clearness of his views and to the soundness of his judgment. (Hear, hear.) Who hears of any appeals from his decisions? Who expresses dissatis faction at his judgments? This, I think, is a convincing proof of the accuracy of his views, and of the ability with which he discharges the duties of his position. (Hear, hear.) There are questions of great intricacy which are constantly arising under acts of Parliament which are unknown in other localities. There is the emigration and passenger act ; there are the mercantile marine acts. We have also a number of local acts which impose an amount of business on the stipendiary magistrate of this town, and upon the other magis trates, which is absolutely unknown in any other town in England. There are informations laid under the various sections of those acts which require the very nicest discrimination, and involve questions of great commercial importance. In these cases, great research is required. Judgment frequently cannot be given at the moment in them, after hearing the evidence, and all testify to the invariable correctness, and to the dignity and skill with which Mr. Mansfield performs the various duties of his high position. (Hear, hear.) He is an elegant scholar and an accomplished lawyer, and I do not think £1,200 a year is at all too high a salary for these qualifications. (Hear, hear.) I will take the cases that Mr. Mansfield has to adjudicate upon in the year. I take last year's cases, and contrast them with the number of cases disposed of by the stipendiary magistrates in other towns. In Liverpool, last year, Mr. Mansfield disposed of 24,907 cases, and received a salary of £l,OOO. I could show, also, the great increase of business that has taken place in the police courts, by showing the increase in fees and fines that have been pail. In 1838, under Mr. gall, who had .4'1,300 a year, the fees were £1,712 7s 3d, and the fines imposed were 4'2,064 7s 41, making a total of £3,776 14s 7d. Last year, the fees in our police courts were .e 5137 6s 8d ; the total fines levied amounted to £4.622 is 81, making a total of £9,759 in 1855, against £3.776 in 1838, when the stipendiary magis. trate received £3OO more thau the present gentleman. In all the Metropolitan courts, including the court of the Lord Mayor, the total fees and fines in the last year amounted to £11,315, very little more than was levied in the port of Liverpool; and looking, therefore, at the enormous duties performed by Mr. Mansfield, the majority of the finance committee looking at the remuneration he receives, as compared with other places. ask this council to do an act of strict justice by adding £2OO to the salary of Mr. Mansfield. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Holme then moved a resolution to that effect. Mr. Alderman J. H. Turner seconded the motion. Mr. Alderman Parker, as a member of the finance com mittee, opposed it, and moved as an amendment that that portion of the proceedings having reference to the increase of Mr. Mansfield's salary be not confirmed. He contended that three-fourths of the cases which came before the Liverpool Police Court, required no legal knowledge to dispose of, and that £l,OOO a year was sufficient remuneration for the stipendiary magistrate, seeing the duties he had to perform. If, however, he was overworked, the evil would be remedied by tile appointment of active lay magistrates, who would dis charge their share of the work. (Hear, hear.) no less thon 40 magistrates in the commission of the peat for the borough, but not one half of them attended to the duties of the office. There lay the evil, and that could not be remedied by increasing the salary of Mr. Mansfield. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Hodson seconded the amendment. lie was aware that the administration of justice was one of the most important matters that could come before a deliberative assembly, but he should say that Mr Holme had delivered on it one of those, delusive speeches, which were simply calculated to c itch the ears of his hearers. Mr. W. Earle: Speak up, sir; your observations are important, and we want to hear them. (Laughter.) Mr. Hodson continued : Mr. Holme had told them that the work Mr. Mansfi had to perform, was much greater than any other stipendiary magistrate in England, but, in looking over the ;number of cases that came before Mr. Mansfield, there was a remarkable feature, and that was, that of the whole number (13,000), were 5s cases. Now, he did not think that these cases required the great ability dwelt on by Mr. Holme--(hear, hear,)—and if Mr. Mansfield were over-worked, the giving him £2OO or £3OO more would not lessen his duties. (Hear, hear.) The question which the council should consider was, whether it would not be better to have two courts and two stipendiary magistrates. (Hear, hear.) His opinion was that that was what was required, and what would remedy all the evils now complained of. As for the honorary magistrates they knew that gentlemen accepted the honour of a seat on the bench but neglected its duties—(hear, hear)—and though their number should be ever so largely increased, there would still be the want of a second court with a paid magistrate. Great stress had been laid by Mr. Holme on the amount of work which Mr. Mansfield had to do. He (Mr. Hodson) was not going to say a word against Mr. Mansfield. because he believed him to be a learned and accomplished gentleman—(hear, hear)—but an accomplished gentleman was not exactly the qualification necessary for a stipen diary magistrate. He was told, too, that Mr. Mansfield was to be daily seen walking down from the Athenm am, at eleven o'clock in the morning, and if that were so, his duties could not be so very onerous, the more espe cially as he rose at two o'clock. He should like, however, that a special committee were appointed to consider the whole subject, and report to the council whether it would not be more prudent to appoint a second stipendiary magistrate than to increase the salary of Mr. Mans6e'd. ([sear, hear.) Besides, in the committee the division was only eight to five, and six of the majority were magistrates, and even Mr. Earle, who formed ore of them, merely walked in when the division was about to be taken, voted. and walked out again. (Laughter.) On these groands he (Mr. Hodson) opposed the motion, and supported Mr. Alderman Parker's amendment. Mr. Clint supported the amendment, and relied on much the same objections to the resolution. Mr. William Earle supported the re ()intim, and explained that, had he not been at the time engaged in the Police Court, he would have earlier attended the finance committee, on the day of the division. He was well aware, however, of the nature and extent of Mr. Mansfield's duties, and had long believed that he was underpaid. Mr. J. A. Tobin also supported the motion. Mr. Alderman Dover thought that it had been agreed that economy was to be the order of the day, and that, in fact, they were " to put their house in order ;"—(laughter) —but, ha would ask, were they putting it in order by in creasing salaries from day to day ? They wete doing nothing of the kind. (Hear, hear.) He did not go the length of Mr. Robertson Gladstone, when he told them that part of their estate was now in periculo. He (fir. Dover) believed no such thing. He believed no such injustice would be done to them ; but, he would ask them as indivi duals, whether, if the title to two-thirds of their pro perty was disputed in a court of law, they would increase the salaries of their servants. (Hear, and cheers.) As they would do in their private capacity, so should they do in their public capacity. (Hear, bear.) They had beard much of Mr. Mantfi ld's ability, which he did not deny, but he was t )1d that £lOOO a year was not the only income he derived from his position of stipendiary. If that were so, let them at once know it. (Hear, heir.) Was it not a fact that he derived, as the stipendiary magistrate A l d e r o mf anHolme Liverpool, : I will a re w ven i u lo Mr. e e b l eyybony.atid dthe.b£y.l 000 ? Mr. Dover would take it then that " silence gave con sent." (Hear, hear, and laughter.) They had hard m uch of Mr. Mansfield's ability and legal knowledge, h , t , it should not be forgotten that they had also two magis trates' clerks, of long standing and considerable legal knowledge, who were quite competent to guide the unpaid magistrates (he did rot know why they were cslled " lay" magistrates; it was a m st improper term)—(laughter)— in the most difficult points of legal technicalities- He should like, if it were permitted him, to give the natural history of the Mansfield affair in the committee. Mr. Aid. Holme : I trust Mr. Dover will conceal nothing _if he does, I will state it. (He ar, hear.) Mr. Alderman Dover continued : He would make a clean breast of it, then. (Laughter.) The natural history of the Mansfield affair in the committee was a most amusing one, and it would show them by what various motives, at various times, different men were actuated. Before the month of November it was scarcely beard of, bat they were told that it would be brought up at the next meeting, and so on. He (Mr. Dover) resolved that he would have it tested, and gave notice, through the Town Clerk, that he wou d move in the matter at the nest meeting of the committee. What was the result ? Scarcely anybody came at all—(laughter) —and of course a thin committee could not then take un a matter of such importance. Now, it happened that in the finance committee the great majority were aldermen, and they therefore had no constituencies to be responsible to. ( Hear, hear, and laughter.) But as gentlemen, and men of honour, very often paid gamb'ing debts when they would not pay legal debts, they (the finance committee), having no coestitutents, should be compelled, nevertheless, by a sense of honour, to vote on the side of economy. (Laughter ) The comparison between Mr. Rushton and Mr. Mansfield he thought very unfortunate. Mr. Rushton 11,.d 1 ,ng been actively engaged in public matters, acid he else discharged much of the duties of the unpaid magistrates. He was told that now there was a ..Treat dearth of unpaid magistrates, and that the messengers of he police courts had daily to run from post to pillar to find cue. That was a scandal, but to remedy it he would recommend that a placard be kept ready printed, and every m•wiring placed on the exchange flags, with the announce ment, " A Magistrate wanted." (Laughter.) It might have a good effect, and would save the legs of the messen_ pis. In conclusion, Mr. Dover argued that as Mr. Mans field was an unmarried man, he had not the same responsi bilities as other gentlemen, and should not, therefore, receive sollarge a salary as a " father family." (Great Laughter ) Mr. Fernihough also opposed the recommendation. Mr. Alderman S Holme replied : He said he wished he could say he had to reply to any sound and cogent argu— ments, but he had listened in vain for anything of such a character, as there was nothing said which it was not in his power at once to contradict. Mr. Hodson had charged Mr. Mansfield win being frequently absent. In this Mr. Hodson was incorrect. Mr. Mansfield had been occasionally absent, but not longer or more frequently than the usual period allowed to public servants for that recreation which every man revired—and there was no man Wm was a greater adv, , c.ite for such relaxation than his friend Mr. Hodson. Mr. Hodson had spoken of the necessity cf having another stipendiary:magistrate appointed, but be had quite forgotten that it was absolutely necessary for the adminis tration of justice in that town, that certain cases should be beard by parties having a local knowledge—and he would ask whether Ity magistrates of the towo, such men as Mr. Earle, Mr. Stewart, and many others, were not better qualified to decide such cases by their knowledge of loci lities, than any barrister whom they could appoint ? (Hear, hear.) Mr. Dover spoke of the division in the finance committee, and of six magistrates being present. In this instance, Mr. Dover, who was usually great in figures, as well as figures of speech, was somewhat incorrect. There were four or five magistrates present, alai who were so competent to judge of the ability of Mr. Mans_ field, and the amount of services he rendered, rs the magis. trates who sat with him, and were witnesses of, and some_ times sharers in his decisions? (Hear, hear.) Mr. Clint in referring to the services performed by County Court judg, s, stated that, these gentlemen had to take papers home to consider their judgements—so did Mr. Mansfield. There were numbers of questions coming before him involv— ing very nice legal questions connected with Acts of Parlia meet, which in many instances, only applied to that com mercial port, and di i nit prevail in other places; and, in these cases, Mr. Mansfield was frequently compelled to take papers home, and to prepare judgments of great public importance. M .raover, when Mr. Clint compared the services of County Court' judges, it must be rep . ied that if County Court judges had more work, they were better paid —as they received .£1,500 a year, while Mr. Mansfield had only £l,OOO. Mr. Clint: Many of them have only £1,200. Mr. Hulme said, Mr. Bennett was the next who came. Be (Hr. B.olme) really did not i item to cmpy the time of the council by saying more of Mr. Bennett ; because, a`ter all the eloqient prophecies they had had from him upon the water question, he should have expected something more logical, and therefore he should pass Mr, Bennett over. Mr. Dover, while he talked of economy, also talked of appointing a second stipendiary magistrate. It would be a very singular sort of economy to have two stipendiary magistrates, and pay £2,000 a year, while they could have the business done by one magistrate for £1,200. Mr. Dover : I did not say one word about the amount. Mr. Hulme sail Mr. Dever also demanded to know whether £l,OOO was the only remuneration Mr. Mansfield had. In answer to that, he should say that the Government did occasionally institute enquires, in casts of the loss of Captain ictiomberg, their agent, r of life, and direct ith Mr. Mansfiki ment, however, dealt in such a very illiberal scale with the stipendiary magistrate, that the amount he received for these services was not nearly so much as Mr. Mansfield himself dropped into the poor-boxes of the town. (Hear, hear.) There was a tacit understanding on the part of .he committee, at the timo of Mr. Mansfield's appoint ment. and he challenged denial to this, that £1,200 a year was the amount which ought to be given to the stipendiary magistrate, but that it was fixed at £l,OOO a year, on the ground that it could be increased when the council had tested the services of the gentleman. Therefore, he (Mr. HoluP) cantended that what he advocated was but an act of justice, which he felt bound by a sense of honour to support. Allusion had been made to the amount of business performed by the late Mr, Rushton. It is true that Mr. Rushton, ont of his good nature, took upon himself a large amount of tha magis erial business. N) man could pay a higher tribute than he could to the services ird the ability of Mr. Rushton ; but that gentle man did so much business that he absolutely found it recessary to keep suitors waiting a very long time, becatve re had or ly ore head and one voice, and, therefore, there were great complaints of suitors being kept there, the result of which was a recommendation from the magistrates that there should be two courts. One of the arguments in Mr. Dover's very amusing speech amoun'e Ito this—if it were worth anything—that if Mr. Mansfield should happen to msrry, and to have a d zen cliildrei, the council shculd give him an inc ease of family. (Oh, oh, and laughter.) he meant an increase of salary every time Mts. Mansfield happens d to be in an interesting situation. (Laughter.) tying replied to several other argumen's, 'sir. Holme con3lnded by proposing that the recommendation be adopted. The council then divided upon the amendment, when there appeared : For the amendment.—Councillors : Messrs. Daniel Crosthwaite, John Johnson Stitt, Archibald C. Stewart. Roger Haydock, Thomas Godfrey, James Tyrer, Joseph G. Livingston, Harmond Banner, John C. Fernihough, John Gladstone, jun., Walter P. Jeffreys, Thomas Wagstaff, John Lawrence, Alexander Shand, Thomas Fleming, John Abraham Tinne, James Johnsor, James It. Jeffery, T. Llexelyn Hodson, James Mellor, Richard M. Beckwith, Francis A. Clint, Bernard Hall, Hilton H ahead, William EL Anthony. Aldermen : Messrs. William Bennett, William Preston, Thomas Bald, George H. Harsfall, Thomas Dover, James Parker, J iseph Caoper, Richard C Gardner, Thomas Toulmin —34. Against the amendment.—Coaccilliars: M,ssrs Richard Sheil, John Woodruff, John It. Nl`Oliffie, Oliver Holden, Thomas Littledale, Charles Turner, James Steains, John B. Braneker, James A. Tobin, Wm. Earle, John Aikin, John Stewart, John Farnworth. Aldermen : Messrs. Thomas Chilton, Thomas Robinson, J. Hayward Turner, J. Bramley-Moore, M.P., Raymond W. Houghton, Samuel Holme, and the Mayor.-20. The remainder of the finance committee's proceedings were confirmed. WATCH COMMITTEE Mr. Brancker moved the confirmation of the procee3ings of the watch committee, which was carried without any discussion. DOCK COMMITTEE The proceedings of this committee were read. Mr. Aldeman llolme called attention to the fact that the council was so thinning down, that if one more member went away there would not be the requisite number. Mr. Earle : It is owing to your good sherry and madeira in the next room. Mr. Mayor—(laughter)—l hope the press will take notice of it, to show how eager members are to run after the bottle and neglect their business. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) The general proceeding having been oonfirmed, The Mayor apprised the council that he resigned his seat on the dock committee in consequence of his elevation to the high post which be then occupied. Mr. Charles Turner : I am sure, sir, I express the unanimous opinion of the dock committee when I state how very much we regret the loss of your valuable services. (Hear, hear.) But, inasmuch as your acceptance of a much higher post has made you deem it necessary to resign your seat in the dock committee, it has become my duty to propose a gentleman to succeed you in the office, and I beg therefore to propose that Mr. Thomas Chilton be appointed your successor. M r . J o hn Gladstone seconded the motion, which was unanimously adopted. IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE. Mr. Alderman Bennett moved that the proceedings of this committee, which did not contain anything of public im• portance, be confirmed. Mr. Earle seconded the motion, which was carried with. out discussion. COURTS OF LAW Alin ST• GEOEPE ' S HALL COMMITTEE M r. Alderman J. IL Turner moved that the proceedings be confirm e d. H e sa id, as reports had appeared in the papers to the effect that the organ performances were falling eff in attendance, it would be satisfactory for the Council to know that from the Ist of October up to the present time, 14,420 persons had attended them. With respect to the charge for the hall, he had observed that Mr. Parker gave notice of a motion. The committee had no objection whatever—in fact the y were very desirous—that the charge f r the use of the hall should be reconsid red and remodelled. He, therefore, suggested that the motion of Mr. Parker should he withdrawn, and that the council should give the committee power to take the whole question into their co - ,sideration, and report to the council what alterations they c rnsidered advisable. The only object of the committee vtaa to have the hall opened for the benefit of the inhabitants of the town, on as moderate a scale as possible. There was one consideration, however, which they ought to keep in tie V. They ought not to reduce the charge so much as to interfere with private property, such as the Music Halls in Bold street and Clay ton Square, and other places, whose nroprietors might, very reasonably, turn round and say it was very hard that the council should charge so low an amount at to render it impossible for them to let their halls. (Het,r, hear ) Mr. A. C. Stewart urged upon the council the conside ration of a memorial which was read from the committee of ti,e Hismoo tpathic Thsper.sary, praying for the gratuitous use of the hall, in order to give a concert in aid of the fa nrls of that institution, and to which the committee had declined to accede. lie contended that the inestimable benefits conferred by the dispensary on the peer of the town, entitled it to be dealt with on a focting different from a were money speculation. Mr. Turner said the committee had no power to grant the use of the hall gratuitously to ani body, and, if they did so, it would open the door to similar requests from all other institutions of the town. The committee, however, would be ready to consider the question, if the council gave them power. _ . . _ Mr. Alderman Pirker askel leave to bring forward, at that stage of the proceeding 4, his motion, which was as follows : —That it be an instruction to St. G.orge's Hall Committee, to reduce the charge for the great hall from twenty-five guineas to twenty pounds per night ; and for the concert room, from thirty guineas to twenty five pounds per night, including gls, giving the committee a discretionary power to make such arrangements for a series of concert•, exceeding two, at such a reduced, price as they shall think proper. The Council having agreed to take the motion at that stage, _ - Mr. Parker procePed to propese it. He said Mr. Turner had in a great measure anticipated his motion, but he thou Oat it would lyitre Euit the committee to have a maximum absolutely fix id. The am-unt which he sug gested as a maximum for the large hall was quite as much as it would possibly pay. The small concert room was at present li•erally, if he might use the expression, a sealed book. It was like a babyhouse, kept for show and exhibited week by week to Vie public; and, although completed unwards of twelve mo: the, there had been but one con cert given in it. Such a room oug ht not to b e sea l e l up by such a price. The committee had had frequent anpli cati..us from London and other places, but the sxorhitant price prevented any one from having a c ncert there. Tne gre 1t hall, he contended, should be opene I to the public on the lowest terms possible, for concerts and for meetings. He had watched the hall very closely for twelve months, and had attended mere there, perhaps, than any other member, and he was s itisfiei that the extravagant price of the hall excluded many persons who would be glad to give concerts there. As a building belonging to the buroesses of Liverpool, he contended that the hell should not be dealt with as a private speculation. Mr. bison had much pleasure in seconding the resole. tion. M. John S ewart did notsee why the committee should he limited, as the motion prop ssed to do. It would bs quite time to limit them if they fixed the max:- mum too high. He quite agreed that for certain purposes the charge for the hell should be re doted. It was very well known that a gentleman lately took up, in a very spirited manner, project of ghing cheap concerts every Saturday evening, and he believed it wa s found by that gentleman, that he could not, with a fair return to himself, ply the price the council had fixed. (gear, tear.) lie therefore thought it was a fair subject for the committee to consider, whether, when a person took up an object which the c mull desired to encourage, they should have the power of making sme modification in the price of the hall, as would enable parties fairiy to carry out the object they had in view with a seasonable profit, provided it w !ts conducted in a manner the council approved of. lie regretted indeed that the Saturday evening con certs which Mr. Remolds took up were not continued, and that that gentleman was linable, owing to the large charges for the ball, to carry them on. lie suggest d that Mr. Parker's object would be attained by referring the subject to the commit , e , , admitting the necessity for vision of the charges, without fixing any limit. (gear, Mr, Ferrao . igh stivesied, that where an object was purely ch r:tahle, the committee might be f afisfiPd by baring the expenses covered, brit on the other hand, the c'immittee should take care not to come into injurious competition with parties who had invested their money in other places. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Shell urged that the principal object the committee should keep in view was the benefit of the public, whose trustees they were, not merely as regarded the money to be gained from the hall, but es regarded the still greater advantages to be derived by placin z the hall open •fur public enjo meet, on such terms as would enable all classes to enj )y it. _ _ Tinnily, Mr. Parker consented to withdraw his motion, on the understanding that the committeee would consider the alterations necessary, and report to the council. The memo!ial of the Homce )pathic Dispensary was also referred to the committee. The proceedings were then confirmed. The proceedings of the markets and education committee were also confirmed. a 101, AND HOUSE OF CORRECTIJN COMMITTEE The proceedings comprised the following : Recommendation to authorise the payment of an annual sum not exceeding .£2O towards the expense of a choir for the chapel at the new gaol. Recommendation to accept the following tenders for articles required for the gaol for the ensuing year: Messrs. Etches, Wilson and Hall, butchers' meat at 46s 7d per cwt; ditto, officers' meat at 6d Tyr lb. Mr. Herbert Salt, brown bread at IZ-d per lb ; ditto, white bread at 21 per lb ; ditto, oatmeal at 333 p^r 240 lbs. Mr. J Johnson, milk at is 2d per gallon. Mr. Milner, grey cloth at 3s 10d per yard ; ditto, blankets at lls 6i per pair ; ditto, rugs at 63 each. Mr. John Davies, officers' uniform c'othing at 553 61 per suit; ditto, officers' grgat coats at 48s each ; ditto, offi-ers' c ips at. 24 3d each. Mr. Hohne moved that the recommendation, with regard to the the choir of the chapel, be confirmed. Mr. Hodson asked: What was the necessity of a choir? He nought the prisoners might, themselvvs,'form a choir. Mr. Banner said, the musical performances had a great ff :ct upon the inmates. The prisoners change Iso fre quently, that they could rot themselves form a choir. Mr. J. R. Jeffery objected to the recommendation. He Oceight it would be giving comforts within the gaol walls to pa• ties, which they were not sent th ere t o en j oy. (H ear, hear.) Many chapels with their min music. It was monstrous to use the money of the ratepayers for any such purpose. (Hear, bear.) Mr. J. H. Turner said : ben the parish clocks were allowed to stand motionless a wh o l e sear , it was rat h er hard to spend the public money for the gratification of prism ere. (Hear, hear.) He th oug ht t h ey s h ou ld b e steisfied wi h having the services of ;be Church, reverently and decent' y performed, as he was sure they were. (Hear, hear.) • Mr. Eirle asked, if Mr. Banner would instance any case in which prisoners had been much benefitted by this music? Mr. Banner : I qtio 4 e the chaplain's report. Mr. Earle: Igoby no chaplain. I want a little corn mon sense in the matter. ()Near, hear.) I cannot see what moral good this has dons. lam blind to it. Mr. Alderman Dover supported th e motion. Mr Earle : Economy. (Laughter ) Mr. Dover said he would give £2O for such a purpose, but he would not throw away £2OO, and be contended that that was economy. He urged that there was a softening effect in music which prepared the prisoners to receive religious instruction. hir. Alderman Parker also supported the motion • • Mr. A. C. Stewart opposed the motion, and urged that prisoners were being made so comfortable that they might be said to offer a premium upon crime. Mr. Aikin supported the motion, and contended that the treatment of criminals should not be such as to deprive them of the full enjoyment of those sacred rites of divine worship, which might tend to purify and reclaim them. Mr. Steains supported the motion, on the ground that the main object of punishing crime was that the criminal might be reformed, w hi ch could be effected by no way CO sure as by leading him to a place of worship. Mr. Stitt denied that the great end of punishment was the reform of the criminal. That might be one end of punishment; but it appeared to him that the main end was the vindication of a broken law. (Hear, hear.) He agreed with those gentlemen who held that a great danger in the present day, and one which oughct to be watched with jealousy by the legislature and by all public holies was the danger of making prisons places of comfort, where the sevuity of punishme' t might be obliterated. (Hear, hear.) As regarded the £2O for the gaol elvir, he did not wish to throw any obstacles whatever in the way of the comfort of those who engaged in the religious services, but he drew a wide distinction between music and religion. (Hear, and cheers.) It had not been proved to his satisfaction that the religious improvement of those who assembled within the gaol could be in any way pro= moted by that grant, and he Eh iuld therefore oppose it. Mr. Tinne els) opposed the grant. Mr. Alderman Bennett supported it. He raid he did not care what the punishment of the criminals was—let them be made to cat the coarsest bread, or even to drink Rivington water—(laughter)—but let religion be made as palatable to them as possible. Mr. Sheil opposed the grant. He objected to being indulgent to criminals, and severe to the poor. There was no such gratification offered at the public eapen>e within the walls of a workhouse, and he objected to their giving to crime what they denied to p iverty, (Hear, h, Mr. Tyrer suppott-d the grant. Finally, M-. Jeffery proposed as an amendment, that the grant be not confirmed. Mr. H )ltne having replied. the council divided upon the amendment, when there appeared— For the motion—Councillors Crosthwaite. Tyrer, Living ston, S e ins, Banner, J. G udstone, jun , W. P. J-ffreys, Welts aff, Lawrence, Fleming. Brancksr. Tubin_ Aikin .1. S ecvarc, Farnwofth, Halhcar; Aldermen Chilton, B-nnett, Bold. Dover, Raker, Cover, Gardner, Hough'on, Ii ]me, and the May( r —26 Agaiast the motion—Councillors Stitt, A C. Stew trt, Shell, Ilaydock, Nicholson, Fernihough, Tinn , , Earle, Johns .n, J. R. !effery, Hodson, 11.11lor, Beckwith, Clint, Hall, Anth )ny ; Alderman Turner-17. The grant was, therefore, ca-risd. The remaining proceedings were confirmed. Tho to mit hall establishment committee's pr,,e?edings were confirmed. HEALTH COMMITTER T le proceedings cont&ned a report from the sub-cora mittea on the letter of Mr. Beaufort, surveyor to the Gene ral Post Office, as to erecting a post office in Dale street. Tne letter enquired whethfr the chamber of commerce represented the general feeling upon that subject ; whe her the council endorsed that view; and whether the corpora— tion would provide a proper site, with a fron'age in Dale street.. The report replied in the affirm itive to the first two queries, and replied to the third that the corporation would provide a site upon arrangemen's to be hereafter made. Mr. Dover proposed the confirmation of the p •oceedirgs, : including the report. Mr. Beckwith seconied th e moti on . Mr. Fernihough proposed, as an amendment, that the subject be deferred for the present. APerman S. }rolmedeclarei himself wholly unpre pared to vote upon so important a subject at present, and strongly urged its withdrawal. Mr. John Stewart also urged tint it should be post poned. He said from a conversation he had had with the Pest-effice authorities, he conclud d they expected to get the site free, and also that the corporation would build the office, they paving the rent for it. The council divided on the amendment, when the-e appeared : For the motion.—Councillors : Stitt, Nicholson, Turner, Steains, Banner, Fernihough, J. Gladstone, jun., P. Jeffreys, WaEr.staff, Lawrence, Tobin, Earle, R. Jeffery, Clint, Stewart, Farnworth, Halhead.—Aldfirmen : Bennett, Bold, Parker, C. oper, Turner, Houghton, Ifolme, and the Mayor —26. Tyrer, Against Vie motion.—Councillors: Cro3thwait-, Stewart, Shell, Livingston, Fleming, Tinne, Johnson, Ho Ison, Mellor, Beckwith, Anthony.—Al lermen : Horsfall, Dover, Gardner-14. The amendment was thereforre carried. It was sass_ quently however. agreed, that the health co nm ttee be requested to confer with the finance commilce on the subject. The remaining proceedings were then confirmed. Thu council at this point adjourned to next Wednesday. The f 'flowing business remains fir disposal ol that day : The proceedings, resolutions, and reports of the garden,' committee, clmprising-1. Recommendat on that the gar den in Wolstenholme square be abandoned, and that the same be paled and a suitable lamp be erected in the centre.-2 Recommendation to autho ise the cunmittee to procure gravel for the gardens in Abtrcromby and Falkner squares. The proceedings, resolutions, and reports of the church expenditure committee, comprising—Rec mmendation to reduce the rents charged fir pews at St. ➢iichael's Church. The proceedings, resolutions, and reports of the Observatory committee. The proceedings, resolutions, and reports of the water committees. The proceedings, resolutions, and reports of the library and museum committee, comprising-1. Recommendation that Mr. Allom be instructed to prepare a design for a new facade for the building as designed by him, on the plan signed Con Amore," FO that the entire cost of the build ing shall not exceed £26,000 (on the understanding that there he no engagement that Mr. Allom shall be subse_ quently employed) ; and that Mr. Cockerell, or some other the building as altered, for the purp ises of the library acid museum. The proceedings, resolutions, and reports of the hackney carriage and licensing committee. The proceedings, resolutions, and reports of the baths' committee. The proceedings, resolutions, and reports of the special committee on the duties of water bailiff, comprising 1. Bye-law to prohibit the mooring of any vessel in that part of the river Mersey defined on the plan, with the object of keeping a free course for ferry steamers between the landing stage and the Cheshire shore. The proceedings, resolutions, and reports of the committee on the supply of gas. The proceedings, resolutions, and reports of the Birken he•!d docks committee. The coroner's account, amounting to £49 ;V. The mayor's communications. Amongst the communications received, and which will be taken up nest council, was the following from Mr. Reynolds, in reference to the Saturday Evening Concerts, at St. George's Hall, of which he was the originator and manager TO HIS WORSHIPFUL THE MAYOR, ALDERMEN, AND COUNCILLORS OF THE BOROUGH OF LIVERPOOL. GENTLEMEN.—Most of you are aware that, recently, I made an effort to give to the working classes of this town a series of cheap and popular Concerts, on Saturday evenings, in St. George's Hall. The man lier in which my undertaking was appreciated and supported by the class for whose advantage it was espe cially designed, sufficiently shows that the working men of Liverpo , d had previously felt the want of such a course of amusement, and eagerly accepted it when offered to them. Notwithstanding, however, their continued sup port, and audiences for the greater part crowding the Hall, the undertaking has, after six nights' trial, proved so completely a failure in point of reasonable remuneration for outlay and trouble, that I have been most unwillingly compelled to abandon it. In the belief that the principal obstacle to the success of the scheme was the amount of rent charged for the Hall and the Organ, I ventared to lay my case before the St. George's Hall Committee, and apply for a reduction. This application the committee did not feel warranted in granting. Under these circumstances lam induced, respectfully, to solicit your attention to the following statement, and hope that if I can demon strate that, while the charges for the Hall and Organ continue at their present scale, no cheap popular concerts can possibly be made to pay their own expenses, even with the most crowded audiences, you will see the necessity for a revision of the existing scale of rent and other charges. I beg to lay before you a statement of the expenses and receipts of each of the Concerts I conducted. I may be allowed to mention these two facts—that at the first, second, and one or two other concerts, the hall was crowded to excess, and that the prices of admission were as high as could reasonably be charged with any hope of adapting the entertainment to the means of that great class whose enjoyment I desired to promote. The following items show the expensn of a single Con. cert, and that not the most expensive of the series, another having involved an outlay of £Bl I3s 3d : Rent of Hall Use of Stage in Hall Organ i Six Police Officers 426 6 0 1 1 0 Artistes Advertis Printing Money and Check Takers Attendants in Hall Sundries 5 5 0 0 18 0 16 16 0 3 15 0 13 Q 0 1 la 0 0 12 6 1 10 0 Looking at the foregoing calculation it is evident that the only items which could be reduced, consistently with the object of making the Concerts of a character at all worthy of the Hall and the People, and the necessity of giving full publicity to the undertaking, were the charges for the Hall and the Organ. I now subjoin a statement of the receipts and expendi ture of each Concert. The Council will observe that my effort -has entailed on me a loss of upwards of £lOO, and that no concert, however well attended, paid its own expenses:-- RECEIPTS First Second Third . eio 14 0 First .. 75 0 0 Second fie 10 0 Tlin,l Total Lacotne.... £345 4 8 Total Expenditure Receipts EXPENDITURE. 77 16 0 81 13 3 Add for Sundries 4'446 5 9 . 10 0 0 £456 5 97 . 345 4 R 4 Amount of nett loss It will, no doubt, be urged that, so long as the Counei can obtain the present amount of rent from parties giving concerts of a higher class as regards prices, they are nit justified i n ma ki n g any reduction. .But, in reply, I b W e J 1 e l d a I t; e w n i a t r h k o th n a p t re th ci i s s e g ly re t a h t e p s u a b m li e c g b r u o l u ld nd ing as sh a ou p l r tnot speculation. The Council can, indeed, obtain the preen rent, but only from parties who give concerts at a scale of prices which shuts the doors of the Hall against any of the wo •king, or even the small tradesmen class. To act, lyh t o h al nss e gt r p e car f lis o av r tsa e hst , i w n ee p hhr t ooa h pr i hg s eaer i vts n ye s c_ t a a unt n nh c bda e eot t a oli s isb:tt a eat doi m :ke a de n e_mp m owru i oe g pu h it t athh f eo a an i n r dl l ye y am do in amnee w , r effec t be to deprive, of all sha re i n the enjoyment of the Hall, a indirect share in its ownership. The Organ Performances at present given under manage ment of the council, realise .£l5 profit. This, however, is computed without deducting the rent of the Hall. As I should have been willing to continue my C mcerts, paying to the council £2O per night for the rent of the Hall and Organ, the corporation fund, instead of gaining Xl5 each Saturday night, loses, in point of fact, .E.b at the least. It mly not De out 01 mace It I eau your attention to a few well.timed and judicious remarks in yesterday's Liverpool Albion. showing that the Organ Performances do not, ant cannot pay. The new Free Trade Hall in Manchester, which is capable of accommodating a considerably larger audience than St. George's Hall, may be had for £2O each night, including every ch Irge. I beg leave to call the attention of the council to the following extract from a Glasgow paper, in reference to the manner in which the new Town Hall of that city is let for such undertaking as my recent effort: " The Town Council of Glasgow have just printed a code of rules to be observed by parties engaging the New Town Hall for public entertainments, balls, sermons, &c., together with a scale of charges for the same, which slides up from a minimum with the prices to be charged for admission. These terms are remarkable for liberality, and show how anxious the council are to give the general public the benefit of this great acquisition to the town." Having shewn, therefore, that under the present system popular concerts worthy of the name cannot be carried on in the hall, and that the council are not gainers but losers by the present performances conducted under their owu auspices, I trust I have established some ground on which to appeal to the members of the Corporation for a revi sion of the existing scale. With apology for thus occupying your attention, but feeling confident you will give the questions I have sub mitted your disinterested consideration, I have the honour to be, Gentlemen, Your obedient servant, CHARLES REYNOLDS, 16, Greek-street, London-road, December 2, 1856. COUNTY COURT-TUESDAY. BONIN V. Die FARJON.—The plaintiff and defendant were both Frenchmen, The plaintiff was named Theodore Bonin, and the defendant Charles Dc Farjon. The action was brought to recover for the services of the plaintiff as sub editor to a journal of which defendant was stated to be a proprietor, and which never was actually issued, although the prospectus appeared. The publication war to be an Anglo. French journal, published simultaneously in Liverpool and Slanches•er, and entitled" Le Phare Commercial," or Co:l=er— eal Indicator of Liverpool and Manchester—a political, commer cial, maritime, and literary journal. The prospectus was printed in English and French, and was not addressed especially to Frenchmenisin Liverpool. It set forth the object of the under. taking with genuine fuircton magniloquence. Among other things it was announced that the services of the plaintiff had been retained, who was, in addition fo writing articles, to publish his manuscripts containing travels through Europe, America, and the Sandwich Isles, and also an account of his visit to Lamartine, by whom his books were stated to have been commended. The plaintiff was to be paid for his services ss. a day, and for two weeks' services he claimed to be paid. Mr. lime appeared for the defence, which rested upon the ground that the journal had never been published, and that theich referred jaaraa to l a s d U not services, ow the only services the plaintiff had rendered was the writing of that ry p held eet u that, wi appeared, the plaintiff had no claim. A verdict was accor di ng l y given for the defence. s ci portion Hien of t the Honour p prospectus WEST DERBY GUARDIANS The annual weekly meeting of this Board of Guardians, MU held yesterday, at the Board-room, Mill-lane, Everton, Mr. J. Harrison was in the chair. The other guardians present were :—Messrs. Edwards, Siddeley, Lunt, Leyland, Baynes, Wensley, Pitts, Abrahams, Wilson, Sagar, Shaw, and Ora' Cheques to the amount of X 237 were voted for the maintenaneo of the out-door poor. The only other business of any public. e report of the, _ .cport was received, but on the apptiL... —.at it was referred back, for the purpose of the committee hearing some additional evidence he bad to adduce. Meer, L ion of Li THE CURRENCY QUESTION Sir,—Current and lc should have a reserve of silver onld have a reserve of TO THE EDITOR OF THE NORTHERN TIMES _ . _ tender notes, payable in silv er , :—;is,r, noes, payable in Id, in 0. same way that water companies have their reservoirs for the supply of water, and other companies their docks for the floating of ships. By extending the legal tender of silver from forty to sixty shillings, a very useful note might be issued, and float, for fifty shillings, as the equivalent half of a Five Pound Note, which would enable many an employer of labour to pay his workmen snugly in silver, instead of by two's and three's in gold, for want of the requisite quantity of silver change; and these two separate and independent reserves could be well and fully kept up by the Government sale and issue to the public of the following notes, circulating at equal and par values the gold notes with the pound sterling, and the silvet notes with the silver shil"-- ng, thus Liverpool Bank of Issue. PURCHASE NOTE. SILVER On demancl, I promise to pay the Public Exchequer th e , ANDREW MRtRY. sum of Fitty Shillings. GOLD PURCHASE NOTE, On demand, I promise to pay the Public Exchequer the sum of Five Pounds. JAMES BAINES. In the same way these two reserves would be available for the public expenditure, by the issue and delivery to the public , servant and creditor of the following notes, thus:— . - Liverpool Rink of Issue. SILVER DELIVERY NOTE. On demand, I promise to pay the Bearer the sum of Fifty Shillings. Jour; PEay. GOLD DELIVERY NOTE. On demand, I promise to pay the Bearer the sum M . rive Pounds. T. F. TO THE EDITOR OF THE NORTHERN TIMES. Sir,--Before proceeding with the regular course of my argu— ments on this subject, I think it desirable to mike a few remarks with respect to the general plan I have laid down for my government; and, which, I consider the proper order to be observed in pursuing the investigation in which we are engaged, —this will at once explain why I have not, as yet, hurried iuto the consideration of any remedial measures. • If I were delivering a course of lectures, I should arrange them, so as to take in succession, the different stages of the subject ; each, respectively opening the way for the next— naturally in order—and they would run thus :- 1 st.—A statement of the evil, as evident to all. 2nd.—An exposition of the said evil, 3rd.--The source, or cause of th 4th.—The kind of remedies cakulated to remove it; and, sth.—The application ar.;s selection of the most approved of those remedi.s, By a little ention to this plan, it will easily be seen that I corsider this order necessary, if u results in a systemat way; for, a moment' a thought will, at )at it would be folly to once, convince any one, nation of an unseen, unacknowledged evil—much less to, a remedy for it —or, to decide on the kind of cure, should be understood, in a great measure,. Now, I think it is until the cause of f not fully settled in every respec Cilia tin 'tat (here is an et character,—tr. throughout trade, of t be not as yet define ug of many ; and, Z also think, it I clearly deco rated in these and evil, as also the cause of i 'elves to have gone throu at the four.h stag , e; bnt there very important fe yetem ; and vigorous, and larged req As Chr perhaps postpone, for a short period, following up lid on the turn of the new year, what I and my it ti l e r t o l a y before the public, will be receiv e d with a note hearty welcome. May it prove the introductio n , to a h appy now year , and he as a word, fitly spo k en in due •,, be subject fiiendsliav ne turning id be more . - their attention to the meeting of of Parliamen t , hand. /9 likely to call upon their representatives to. take this matter ill right good earnest,—Yours, &C. 3 CORNELIUS. f some kind per- 'stand- Other le retore, v insider our- ) have arrived s I should Iy succeeding story to the two last acting part we have ent, superannuated, old • - new one, more youthful, more ed to supply . the immensely en. merce 01