Northern Times. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-06-19 00:00:00

ROBERT NIULLINER, (Successor to GOZST Co.), (Late with Wm. Home, London), C111.1111q7 , 1 A ;01 g.laN•gss NItiNUFACTUR.Eri, 51) GAT CIA.:ILOTTE-3TREEr, LIVERPOOL, MANUFACTIMIIR OF EVRELY DESCRIPTION OF FASHIONABr.E CARRIAGES. Sole .I;e:zt for the Palest Diorapies, for which a Prize Medal was awarded 'Gre:it Exhibition, A Great Variety of New and Fashionable CA2RIAGES always on view, which are ready for immediate use. Estimates give for repairs CARRIAGES TAKEN IN EXCHANGE. Good Standing on moderate terms. Carriages sold by Com mission. Merchants supplie.l with Carriages for exportation on liberal *rms. eirrulmial higick—El)U am. At twelve o'clock, at the brokers' office, 353 tiere:s American Lard.— Bigland, Sons and J , ffreys. ♦t half-past one o'clock, at Golding and Nash's saleroom, Corn Exchange, Brunswick-street, about 107 barrels Flour.—J. and M. Harnett. At twelve o'clock, at the brokers' office, Victoria-buildings, neckties key, 6 158 pieces Boxwood.—T. W. and J. C. Harrop. At twelve o'clock, at the Co:ton Salesroom, Exchange-buildings, 1 7-horse power high-pressure Engine and Boiler. and about 200 packages Damaged Ilanufact ared Goods.—Percival, Campbell & Co. At twelve o'clock, about 10 tons Sapan Wood, and 30 bales Jute. — Cox Brothers. At twelve o'clock, at ihe brokers' offs', Apsley-buildings, 7 casks Cream Tartar, and 230 bales Persian Berries.—"ower and Slack. At twelve o'clock, at the broker,' office, 2, Rumford-street, 92 bales Bunn Hemp.—Whitaker, Whitehead and Co. At twelve o'clock, at the broker's office, 18, Hackin's-hey, 1,500 . - bundles Rattani —Balmain and Hill. At twelve o'clock, 376 gales Jnte.—Fi. lay, Lawrence, and Lance. At twelve o'clock. at the brokers' office, , Apsley-brdings, Oldhall- street, 18 casks I, , sbon Oka% and Spence. At twelve o'clock, at the public saleroom, Exchange-buildings, 117 bales Jute.—John Baron and Son. At twelve o'clock, at the brokers' office, Royal Bank-buildings, about NM tales and 4 begs Cotton.—Molynenx, Taylcr and Co. =media' ely after dinner, on the quay of the Brnnswick Dock, 269 logs Birch, and 19 logs Ash.—Edward Chaloner. Cg' For particulars sea advertisements. .MUSEIIENTS, PUBLIC 'IEEPING3, &c. THIS DAY. ROYAL '.MPFIIT IDATRE—Dramatis Performance-7 p.m. HENGLIR'S GRAND CIRQUE V-IRIETE, Dale-street-7 p.m. TEUTONIC HALL (Upper), Lime-street—Diorama of India-2 p.m. FaREMA3ON'i HALL—Gallery of Anatomy-11 a.m. to 10 p.m. ALLSOP'S CRYSTAL PALACE, Lime-street-10 a.m. to 10 p.m. EtoorAL CoLosssum—General Entertainment-6. s 0 p.m. ZOOLOGICAL GARDENS—Grand and Varied Entertainments. Ggir For particulars see advertisements. t[c " tvi - ( 41) viti t 1-A FRIDAY, JUNE 19, 1857 THE DAY'S NEWS. The business transacted in the House of Com mons last night was not of much importance. A new writ was ordered to be issued for Banff, in the room of the Earl of Fife, who, since his election, has accepted the office of Steward of Hempholme. Mr. Wilson, of the Treasury, entered into the ques tion of communication with Ireland ; but he could not announce any definite arrangement- The Chancellor of the Exchequer stated that if the Savings' Bank Bill passed this session, he should be prepared to assent to the appointment, next session, of a committee to consider the general state of the law relating to savings' banks, both as regarded their constitution and the financial question. The hon. gentleman intimated that it certainly was his intention to proceed with the question in the present session. In • the Committee of Supply, General Peel drew attention to portions of the evidence taken be fore the Sebastopol Committee and Chelsea Commission, with a view to show the no cessity of defining the responsibility and duties of the various departments of the government. Some discussion here ensued, in which Mr. Ellice, Sir W. Codrington and Lord Palmerston took part, and the subject dropped. The camp at the Curragh is only to be used during the summer. So says Sir John Ramsden. The House was occupied for a long time in a discussion whether the Survey of Scotland should be on a 25 inch scale, or one inch to the mile, and ultimately a division was made, and the govern ment was defeated by 172 to 162 votes. In the House of Lords, a discussion on the Ministers' Money Bill occurred, on Earl Gran ville moving the Second reading. The noble Lord alluded to the act of 1833, introduced by the present Earl of Derby for the abolition of the Church Cess Rates, which was carried Every reason that could be urged for the one applied equally to the removal of the other. He then, at some length, entered into the merits of the case, and urged their lordships to pass the measure into law. The Earl of Derby moved an amendment, that the bill be read a second time that day six months. He defended his measure, and contrasted it with that brought in by the existing government. The Earl of Harrowby supported the measure, and warned the house that its rejection might have the effect of disturbing the tranquility at present prevailing in Ireland. After much discussion their lordships divided, and there appeared for the motion 101, against it 96, showing only a vote of five in favour of govern 'lent. At the Bankruptcy Court, yesterday, Mr. Com missioner Stephenson delivered a long judgment in the case of M‘liean, M'Larty, and Co. He reviewed the circumstances of bankruptcy at great length, and stated that taking everything into con sideration, he could only grant a second-class certificate to Messrs. M'Kean, M`Larty, and Lamont. We report at length the proceedings of the Hun dred of Wirral Court Leet yesterday. The three men charged with causing the death of a seaman, on the voyage from Demerara to this port, were again brought up before the magistrates yesterday. Further evidence was adduced, and a remand to to-day was ordered A letter carrier, named Parris, was yesterday sent for trial by Mr. Mansfield, for purloining a letter containing a sovereign. Several rascals were also sent for trial, on charges of breaking into merchants' offices. Shattock, the attorney, was yesterday committed for trial on a fresh charge of forgery. The annual distribution of prizes at the Catholic Institution came off yesterday, a full report of which will be found in to-day's paper, At the weekly meeting of the Health Committee, yesterday, it was announced that the deaths during the week were 206, being 29 less than the corrected average. Complaints were made of the insufficient watering of Fairfield, and also of the northern ap proaches of the town—and what do our readers think is the reason ? Why, from the fact that water could not be obtained in the districts men tioned until the evening. We were under the impression that the Pike was a panacea for all evils of this description, but the cry is still—" Our arrangements are not complete" Messrs. Bibby and Co., by their Southampton expedition, have brought the Liverpool Dock Com mittee to terms. At the weekly meeting of the committee yesterday, after some opposition and discussion, Messrs. Bibby were granted three per manent berths in the Sandon Dock. A statement was made by Mr. Mondell, which we think was not warranted by the occasion — he said "he thought if the government had not subsidised Messrs. M`lver, they would have had the Atlantic crossed in eight days by the force of competi tion." That the Atlantic will be crossed in eight days to the American seaboard we have not the least possible doubt; but for Mr. Mondell to make the statement he did yesterday, we can hardly account. The Great Eastern may make the run to New York in, or even under eight days, but as soon as she does so, we are inclined to the belief that her proprietors will look for a subsidy from Government. There is no doubt that even at present the Atlantic has been crossed in eight days, without a Government premium, but that was only to Newfoundland. On the whole, we are THE NORTHERN TIMES. LIVERPOOL, FRIDAY, JUNE 19. 1857 of opinion that Mr. Mondell's remarks were any thing but practical, or to the purpose. Yesterday, eighteen gentlemen were proposed guardians of the parish of Toxteth-park, on the occasion of the separation from the West Derby Union. A list of the names will be found in another column. We had two arrivals here yesterday, the Colum bia, from New York, and the Anglo-Saxon, from Quebec. Both left their respective ports on the 6th inst. The news is not of an important character. The United States advices are to the effect that 2,500 troops had been ordered to Kansas. The governor of that territory, Walker, had issued his inaugural address to the people. It is very conciliatory, and an abstract of it will be found in another column. It was stated that the English Minister, Lord Napier, had denied that the New Grenadian Government had ceded au island to Great Britain. There is no question about the American executive being " raw" upon the matter, for, without doubt, such territory has been handed over to the tender mer cies of England. The inquiry into the murder of Dr. Burdell continued. We are sorry to say that the screw steamer Canadian remained ashore on the 6th inst. It was expected, however, that she would be got off, as a large de tachment of carpenters and others had been sent to her. The Canadian Government would be pro rouged about the middle of the present month, immediately after which the Governor-General would make a visit to England. Our advices from France this morning inform us that the state of the elections remain the same ; the only difference being that a larger number of non -official candidates have come forward, some of whom have only their personal ambition in view, whilst others are actuated by the desire of reforming the existing institutions of the Em pire. The Emperor will leave for Plombieres on the 28th. He will, on his return, visit the Qtven at Osborne. Feran Khan, the bearer of the Per sian treaty, has returned to Paris. The aide-de camp of Prince Jerome presented himself for election. The Emperor ordered him to desist, in consequ3nce of his peculiar position. He has obeyed the order, but resigned his place. The Moniteur of yesterday announces that the Siecle had received a third warning for an article on the elections. It is added that, on account of the elec tions. the government will not use the power it possesses to suspend the publication. Athens advices to the 9th inst. are to hand. The Queen Amelia was to visit Germany. This is decided. Respecting the Neufchatel difficulty, we have Berne advices of the 16th inst., which inform us that a great number of Royalists are profiting of the permission accordel to them by the Grand Council to return to their homes. A Madrid letter of the 16th, states that the official announcement of the Queen being enciente ould be made that evening. Letters from Dresden state that the Sardinian matrimonial alliance will endeavour to effect a reconciliation between the courts of Vienna and Turin. The Diet which assembed to-day at Frankfort, would discuss the difficulties which have just arisen between Prussia and Austria. THE large majority of the 140 in the division on Monday evening leaves little doubt of the fate of the Bill for admitting the Jews into Parliament. And thus will be removed from the laws of England one of the last remnants of bigotry—a paltry and pitiable mark of degrada tion, accidentally left on a portion of her Majesty's subjects ; being the fag end of an oath that was never intended to apply to them. The oft quoted words of the oath, " On the true faith of a Christian," were to exclude the Roman Catholic, not the Jew. They were a supposed security of the true Protestant believer as against the untrue faith of the Romanist. Bigotry, exclusiveness, and a zeal which is not according to knowledge, were thus accidentally enabled to turn them against the professors of the Jewish faith. Now, we trust all this is about to cease. It is little to our credit that this should have endured so long. On the Continent, the Pro testant kingdoms of Holland and Prussia have admitted the Jew to equal privileges. Roman Catholic France and Belgium have done the same. Protestant, constitutional, Free-trade England held out the longest, and Mr. WHITE SIDE, if he had his way, would still continue to flutter this sorry rag of persecution in the face of Baron ROTHSCHILD. Seldom have we read a speech in Parliament more fraught with narrow bigotry and unchristian feeling than this elaborate deliverance of Mr. WHITESIDE. It was meant to be the great telling speech from that side of the house, and the amount of it is, that the Jew is not a Christian ; that he does not believe in the miracles which attested Christianity ; that he is an obstinate disbeliever, and, if admitted into Parliament, he would unchristianise the Legislature. All these stale fallacies we have heard over and over again, long ago. The nation is tired of hearing them repeated every year. Besides, Parliament ought not to be made an arena of theological debate ; or, if honourable members, like Mr. WHITESIDE and Mr, WARREN, will lug in theology, let them first know something about it. Their theology is on a par with their politics—both somewhat out of date. The theory of the British Constitution is, that all citizens should be equal in the eye of law, whatever political or theological opinions they may privately hold. Parliament is not a court of inquisition into men's religious beliefs, but a high senate of impartial wisdom to enact the same equal and just laws for all. How can the admission of a few Jews into the House of Commons unchristianise the Parliament or the people ? Two or three swallows don't make a summer, and a few Hebrews in the House won't Judaize the nation. How feeble would be our Christianity if we had any reason to apprehend such a result. On the contrary, doing this act of justice to the Jew more establishes Christianity among us, for it is doing as we would be done by. But if the argument of these gentlemen were good for anything, it would carry them much further. Thousands of Jews reside in this country, hold property, exercise the franchise, worship in their synagogues, and are Sheriffs and Lord Mayors—and does not all this tend to unchristianise the country ? To be consistent, we cannot stop at mere exclusion from Parliament. The same argument, or rather sophistry, has been used to exclude Dissenters and Roman Catholics from political equality ; the poor Jews are bigotry's last scape goat ; and they will soon be free. The members of the Jewish communion are as quiet, and useful, and industrious, as any of her Majesty's subjects ; they are taxed and tithed, and bear the responsibilities of citizens ; and the justice and good sense of the English people says, clearly and unmistakeably, let them have the priviliges as well as the responsibilities, the rights as well as the duties of citizens. Let all stand on the same impartial level, as regards law, whatever may be their political or religious opinions. But the insincerity of the argument for excluding the Jews, is more insulting than its sophistry. Just as if all could swear conscientiously on " the true faith of a Christian." People who have no faith in Christianity at all, can glibly utter the formal words; but the Jew is excluded for his truthfulness, while others are tempted to hypocrisy, because a theological creed is made a condition of entering the British Parliament. The nation is sick of all this ; happily it will cease soon. The speech of Sir JOHN PAKINGTON is highly honourable to this enlightened Liberal-Conservative. His is evidently an honest and progressive mind. He candidly avowed his conversion to the side of justice to the Hebrew, and his renunciation of his former opinions and arguments. " Would that all the Lord's people were prophets," and that all Conservatives were like Sir JOHN ; how much more smoothly would the course of legis lation flow ! We would then see a House conservative of what is good, and reformative of what is evil. Sir JOHN does not fear unchris . - tianising the House—he seems to think that is done already; for, says he, " already there are Unitarians in the House." The implication that Unitarians are not Christians, is Parliamentary theology on which we shall not permit ourselves to remark. Our Prime Minister seems master of the situation. He will carry this Bill without making it a Cabinet question. His Lordship, we believe, was right in declining to make any change in the Bill, at the request of the Roman Catholic deputation, headed by the Duke of NORFOLK. It might have perilled the Bill in the Upper House. The relief of the Roman Catholics from an invidious form of oath will follow another time—at present it is relief for the Jew. Let them ;help to get justice for the Jew, and they will be so much nearer justice for themselves. Fair play will go all round the ring. The House of Lords, we believe, will have the grace to pass a Bill which is evidently in harmony with the wishes of the nation, and is backed by so large a number of our representatives. And if, as we believe, our present powerful Premier is destined success fully to carry his measure, it is not to be forgotten that other men have laboured, and he has entered into their labours; and the nation has grown by discussion and enlightenment up to that state in which it is safe and possible to carry this Bill. Lord JOHN RUSSELL and others prepared the ground and sowed the seed ; and now Lord PAL4ERSTON, backed by his powerful majority, comes in to reap the harvest and gather the fruit, OUR readers will have perceived that the , Select Committee of the House of Commons, over which Sir JAMES GRAHAM presides, are still con- 'Pr' ducting their inquiry, and endeavouring to answer the question which the House has put to them, viz.—" Is it for the benefit of the country at large that we should grant the prayer of the men of Manchester, and say that their lengthened preamble to the Mersey Conservancy Bill is true and legitimate r' We never had the least objection to have the title of the Liverpool Corporation sifted, with the view of testing whether it was legal—aye, and just, too—to levy the Town Dues. But certainly we had, and still have, a strong impression that the appointment of a chairman, whose entire political career has been like that of the poor schoolmaster, who once wrote a book on the question of Education upon the principle of expediency. Sir JAMES GRAHAM, like the present Premier, has resembled the Apostle PAUL—been everything to every man, in order that he may gain something. We know, from his past history, the vanity and the mountebank propensities of the Netherby baronet. On the Mersey Conservancy Bill he has out-Heroded himself ; and the plausibility with which he defended his truly iniquitous practice of opening letters, when Postmaster-General, has been cast into the shade, when he, as a judge, undertook to decide between the usurping ideas of the men of Manchester and the legitimate claims of the people of Liverpool, as regards the Town Dues. On looking at his bias, and the close identity of opinion between himself and the Right Hon. Mr. Lows, we cannot help thinking that there is a sort of conspiracy between the two to rob Liverpool of her just and equitable claims —the Town Dues. The cloven foot of the Right Hon. Chairman, to which we have previously alluded, showed itself at the earliest period of the inquiry. From first to last he has, like the Right Hon. ROBERT LOWE, as Chairman of a Committee last session, been more the advocate of Manchester than anything else. Law and equity have been disregarded, in order that he could advance a political theorem, which is as absurd as it is unjust. If anything that has transpired in this Com mittee more than another could prove our posi- tion, it is the offensive and undignified attitude assumed by Sir JAMES GRAHAM on uesday, when the subject of warehouses was under consideration. He sought to extort from the witnesses examined, that the owners of ware house'property influenced our Municipal electioii!, and, as a matter of course, could control the proper regulation and conservancy of the Mersey. Now, this is nothing more nor less than a gross libel on the Town and Corporation of Liverpool. It would be easy to refer to the statistics of the borough. to show that the owners of warehouse property are an insignificant minority of our Town Council ; and, moreover, that they never attempt to dictate what shall be done in regard to the regulation and working of the Docks. But we might go a step further, and show that the drift of Sir JAMES GRAHAM'S cross and re-cross examination of Mr. RALPH BROCKLEBANK, on Tuesday, was quite fallacious, by noticing the attempt of the warehouse owners to saddle the owners of cottage property with certain Munici pal and other rates and dues. When that struggle took place, the warehouse owners were the challengers. The cottage owners took up the gauntlet, and defeated their opponents in a manner which will not be forgotten ; and if Sir JAMES GRAHAM had not read his Manchester brief, he would have been perfectly conversant with all the facts appertaining thereto, and less disposed to attempt to elicit from one of Liver pool's most popular merchants an idea or inference which would indirectly stigmatise the conduct of the Liverpool Dock Trustees. The case for the Corporation and Dock Trus tees is about to be concluded. Sir JAs. GRAHAM is evidently getting wearied of their strong and determined defence, for day after day has he made onsets, peculiar to himself, to cut short the telling facts which Mr, SHUTTLEWORTH, and the other witnesses for the defence, have placed on record ; and nothing could more incontrover tibly prove that such is his feeling than the manner in which he treated Mr. HOPE SCOTT on Wednesday, when that learned gentleman referred to the "scene" which took place in the committee-room on Tuesday. Waiting until the whole case—that of the promoters and opponents—is closed, we shall defer further comment. At the same time, we cannot refrain from stating that a more partial Chairman never ozcupied a chair in a committee-room of the House of Commons ; and be the decision what it may, never was the preamble of a bill less worthy of credit, or of being sanctioned by Parliament. PRESENTATION.—The Rev. W. H. Denny, of St. Peter's Church, has been presented, by the mate members of his confirmation class, with a handsome inkstand, as a token of their gratitude for the instruction and advice he has given them during their preparation. An appropriate address was read upon the occasion. THE GREAT INDIAN DIORAMA.—There are two days left vet for such as have not had the satisfaction of wit nessing this wonderful and interesting exhibition. Having on more than one occasion expressed our opinion of this work of art, and the pleasurable instruction derivable from a visit to it, we have now only to say that such as allow it to depart without seeing it will lose an intellectual treat. CAUTION TO AMATEUR ANGLErsB AT THE LAKES OF THE BIRKENHEAD PARK.—On Wednesday morning last, one of the jolly gods of Bacchus, who, having recently received a legacy, ventured upon purchasing a season ticket to enjoy the morning air, but unfortunately the rotundity of his person, with the aid of his rod and line, overbalanced him, and he was precipitated into the lake, and would, in all probability, have met with a watery grave, had it not been for the pre sence of an eminent Schneader and Hatter, whose peram bulations and tight fits are well known. It is presumed that this will be a caution to the inexperienced, especially the unfortunate whom we allude to. Tan AMPHITHEATRE.—Mr. Robert Roxby, stage manager of Drury Lane, and well known as a comedian to metro politan and provincial audiences, has been performing at the Amphitheatre during the week. It is many years since Mr. Roxby appeared in Liverpool, but his talents as a light comedian are too well appreciated to require any critical notice from us. Although not to be classed in the firs , rank of the comedians of the day, Mr. Roxby is an actor of very high comic powers, and in his present engagement has well sustained his London reputation. The Spanish minstrels, who have won a well-deserved success, have also performed some of their favourite melodies every evening. HENGLER'S CIRQUE', DALE-STREET.—Ag we anticipated, the novelties introduced at the Cirque this week have delighted overflowing and fashionable audiences. The exciting piece of the " Great Liverpool Steeple Chase" is ably managed, and most attractive. This is the last week of the inimitable Wallet, and those who have not seen him miss a treat indeed. We find also that Saturday will be the last of the grand day performances, and such as wish to enjoy a real treat—and fine equestrianism is a treat to every one—should not miss the present opportunity. !fir. Hengler and his efficient manager, Mr. Francis, are indefatigable in catering for public taste in their attractive line, and they have succeeded. THZ CANADIAN LAZE STEAMERS. —Mr. D. P. Michel, or Waterloo-road, Liverpool, has recently received the most satisfactory testimonials from passengers with regard to the ccmfort, economy, and speed of the royal mail line of through steamers on the Canadian lakes, and which vindi cate most completely the company who have the management of this traffic from the aspersions cast upon them by the Grand Trunk Railway authorities. It appears that the whole of the p assengers in the Ocean Bride, although not booked and the majority of those in the ships Arran and Florence, preferred the steamers to the Grand Trunk Railway—the changes being fewer, the accommodation better and cheaper, the luggage of passengers being carried free, and there being only a few hours difference in point of time between the boats and the railway. Tbc foundation stone of a new Roman Chatholic chapel has been laid at Garstang, by Dr. Goss, the Bishop of Liverpool. It is to hold 600 persons. Mr. Paley of Lan caster, is the architect. • SUPPLY OF GUANO.-A petition from Berwickshire repre sents that diminished supplies of guano must be followed by 'a diminshed production of the food of the people, therefore in a national as well as in an agricultural point of view, it is the duty and interest of the government to endeavour to discover deports of guano, nitrates, or other fertilising substances which can contribute to the further ance of agriculture, and consequently to the national pros perity. That every encouragement should be given to private parties for discoveries of fertilising substances in any part of the world, but they should not be recompensed by the grant of a monopoly for a term of years, or per mitted to levy so large a royalty as that of £1 per ton with out some obligation on their part that the guano shall be shipped in a genuine state. CONVICT DIETARY IN THE MILLBANK PENITENTIARY.— On Tuesday afternoon, an inquest was held in the Mill, bank Penitentiary before Mr. Bedford, on the body of James Knott, aged 20, a convict. It appeared from_ the evidence of the prison authorities that the deceased, was of respectable connections, but although so young h.e had been twice transported. The last time he was received into the prison was in February, 1856, when ho 'a;as in a very low state, suffering from cough, spitting of exhibit ing all the symptoms of pulmonary 'consumption, He was , not allowed to do any work, h tAood, and was soon after admitted into the infirmary, having the daily attendance of th 3 resident surgeon, and most nourishing diet. His disease being cosfirtta, be never rallied, and died on Saturday last. Dt deceased had bp . Baly, physician to the prison, said the :en under his care, and received every atten tion and nr,nrishment his case required. The coroner remarked, that the Infirmary diet of the prison was s.,ullni - Jr to anything that persons at liberty, even in com- PPAable circumstances, could obtain. Dr. Baly said they had fowls, rabbits, pigeons, dishes of all kinds, and the best of soups, wine, spirits, beef tea, arrowroot, eggs. fish, and, indeed, every luxury that could be afforded in high life. The jury expressed their surprise and satisfaction, and returned a verdict of " Natural death by Pulmonary Consumption." TELEGRAPHIC NEWS. [By British and Irish Magnetic Telegraph.] FRANCE. The Plenipotentiaries are 1`,2 meet at the Minister of Foreign Affairs' to-day (Fricitzy), to sign the convention relating to the limit of the Turco- Russian frontiers The Paris Three per Cents closed yesterday Thursday) at 68F. 75c. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (By British awl Irish Jlagnetie Telegraph) HOUSE OF LOBai.---Tnuasnav The House met at five o'clock. MINISTEEtS' MONEY (IRELAND) BILL. Earl Gaciv.teeu moved the second reading of the Minis ters' Money (Ireland) Bill, and stated the reasons that had induced the government to take the measure into their hands. Having adverted to the origin of the tax, he alluded to the act of 1833, introduced by the Earl of Derby when chief secretary for Ireland, by which the Church Cess, pro ducing annually £70,000, was abolished. The Church Cess was more ancient, and produced less than the ministers' money, and every reason that could be urged for the one applied equally to the removal of the other. The collection of the latter was found a matter of great difficulty, and it might be imagined that it was not a very agreeable task the government had to perform of compelling the corpora - tions to enforce payment from their own townsmen. No doubt it would be objected to the measure that the funds of the ecclesiastical commissioners were net suffi!ient to meet the demand which would be placed upon them, but he was of opinion that by proper economy they would be found large enough to replace the sum, and more than met the increased claims by an increase of revenue. If they re jected the bill in opposition to the opinion expressed by the other House, their course would be pregnant with evil, and be urged their Lordships to pass it into law. The Earl of DERBY moved an amendment, of which he had given notice, that the bill be read a second time that day six months. He held that however expedient the measure was, he maintained that it was opposed diametri cally to principle, and that it violated the most sacred rights of property, and that the grounds upon which it was based were unworthy of the Government that had undertaken it. With regard to the County Cess which he had abolished, he stated that at that time there was a powerful crusade against the Established Church, and by the course which he took he had been instrumental in adding security to the establishment. But there was a great difference between the two cases. The County Cess was a voluntary assessment, which was uncertain in amount ; depending upon the will of the vestry, and was levied exclusively by Protestants upon Roman Catholics ; whereas the Ministers' Money Tax was 200 years old, of a definite amount, fixed upon property, and was just as much attached to individual houses as a chief rant on any other permanent charge. The government had so far sanctioned the tax as to take measures to compel pay ment ; but now they asked their lordship to take away property which, in 1850, they declared to be inviolate. This bill was an admission on the part of the government that they could not maintain the law, and would lead Irish members to think that they bad only to resent any law to get rid of it. Tho Earl of HARROWBY warned the house that the ra- j ection of the measure might have the effect of disturbing the tranquility at present prevailing in Ireland, and observed that the effect of adopting it would be to place the Protestant church in that country in a position of greater security. The Bishop of KLLMORE considered that the alienation of a portion of the property of the church would give rise to apprehension of the alienation of the rent-charge itself, and he could only view the bill therefore as an injury to the Established Church. If it passed, it would be looked upon by some as a triumph, and by others as a grievous wrong, so that the result would be to sow dissentions among the people of Ireland. The Earl of CORK, in supporting the measure, refer red to the difficulty of the collection of the tax. Lord DUNGANNON looked on that bill as part and parcel of that injustice, which had been practised by the govern_ ment, towards the Established Church in Ireland. The Earl of WICKLOW objected to the bill, and declared that the opposition on the collection of the tax, was only offered by a small proportion of those who were liable. The Earl of DONOUGIIMORE contended that the funds at the disposal of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, were not adequate to carry out the object of the bill. Lord TALBOT DE 111ALAninn supported the bill, and read a letter from the Bishop of Derry, when Dean of Limerick, respecting the difficulty of collecting the tax. With regard to the funds in the hands of the eommissioners, he bore wit ness to the fact that money set apart for building churches was wasted. The Earl of ELLENBOROUGII thought thetax should be got rid of, as he did not think that the collection would ad vance religious peace in Ireland. To render the funds of the commissioners sufficient to meet the new charges, he proposd to reduce the expenses of the commissioners, by transferring the management of the church temporali ties from the separate and independent body by which they were at present managed to the Board of Works in Ireland. The Duke of NEWCASTLE also supported the bill. Earl GueNvlLLz then replied. The numbers were Contents present Proxies Total Non contents present Proxies .. ...... . 101 71 . 25 Total ... , Majority The bill was accorditgly read a second time. The Police Bill was read a second time. Their lordships adjourned at A, few minutes before eleven, HOUSE OF COMMONS.—THURSDAY. The SPEAKER torik the chair at four o'clock. NEW WRIT. On the 'notion of HtyTER, a new writ was ordered to issue for Banff', in the room of the Earl of Fife, who, since his e ) _ection, has acoepted the office of Steward of Hemp- tolme. PUBLIC CHARITIES. Mr. HARDCASTLE gave notice that, on Monday noxt., he should move for leave to bring in a bill for the Incorpora. tion of Public Charities. COMMUNICATION WITH IRELAND. In answer to Mr. RzmoN, Mr. WILSON said the decision of the united compauies upon the government proposal, respecting the improvement of the communication between London and Dublin had not yet been received, INCOME OF IRISH SEAPORTS. On the motion of Mr. J. Ewart, returns were ordered respecting the finances of the port of Dublin; and on the motion of Mr. M'Cartney returns relating to Portpatrick and Donaghadee harbour were ordered. SCOTCH LUNACY BILL• In reply to Sir John Ogilby, The Loup ADVOCATE said he did not know that it would be necessary to insert in his Lunacy Bill any provision for proper management and training of weak or imbecile children. SAVINGS BANKS. In reyly to Lord Goderich, The CHANC7LLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER said, that in the event of the Savings' Banks Bill becoming law in the pre exit session, he should be prepared to assent to the appointment next session of a committee to consider the general state of the laws relating to Savings' Banks, both as regards their constitution, and the financial questions raised by gentlemen opposite, with a view to the re-con sideration and consolidation of the statuary enactments. In answer to a question from Mr. Hadfield, The right hon. gentleman said it certainly was his intention to proceed with the bill in the present session, and he proposed to fix the next stage for Thursday next. SUPPLY. On the report of supply being brought up, GENERAL PEEL drew attention to pardons of the evidence taken before the Sebastopol Committee and Chelsea Commission, with a view to show the necessity of defining the responsibilities and dudes of the various departments The hon. and gallant gentleman quoted from the two reports, showing the difficulties under the existing system of supplying the army with all neces9ftrie;, and inquired what steps had been taken by the government in conse quence of those reports. Mr. E. ELLICE concurred in the remarks of G-aneral Peel, and added a condemnation of the expenditure for the camps at Aldershot and the Curragh, on the ground that excessive expenditure on such objects led to a reduction in military establishments. Sir J. PAKINCTON, as a member of the Sebastopol Committee, also concurred in the remarks made, and recommended the subject to the consideration of the government. Sir W. CODRINGTON suggested that the War Secretary should be resoonsible for the finance departments only of the army. After some remarks from Mr, HENLEY and Si: J. TERLAWNEY, Lord PALMERSTON referred to changes that took place at the commencement of the war, and remarked that the difficul ties arising from the want of harmonious working of different departments, could not in the present constitution of those departments take place. Having then spoken in defence of the camps at Aldershot and at the Cnrragh, the noble lord alluded to a suggestion that medical officers should be at liberty to line transports, which he objectrd to, on the ground that it would in some cases lead to increased expense by the medical profession bidding against the government. some further discussion having taken place, the subject dropped. THE CAMP AT TEE CURRAGIT. In reply to a series of Tlestions, Sir JOIIN RAMSDEN stated that the camp at the Curragh was only to be used as a summer camp, and, therefore, there was no necessity for a prison in the neighbourhood with regard to the sanitary state cf Netley Hospital, the reports circulated were incorrect, and the site was perfectly salubrious. SURVEY OF SCOTLAND. Sir D. NORREYS referred to the twenty-five inch scale survey of Scotland, which he condemned as useless and extravagant, and advocated the six-inch scale, upon which the survey of Ireland, the north of England, and a portion of Scotland, had been made, from which a map for ordinary purposes, upon a scale of one inch to the mile, could be more readily reduced. The hon. member concluded by moving to reduce the vote for the ordnance survey by £36,ooo—the item for the twenty-five-inch survey. Lord DUNCAN defended the twenty-five-inch scale, con tending that it would be useful, especially f)r the registra tion of property. Sir W. SOLIFFE complained that, after an expenditure of £2,000,000 had been incurred in the survey, they had no maps for useful purposes. He advocated the large scale. The Earl of GlrFono ridiculed the twenty-five inch scale. Mr. HENLEY thought the twenty-five inch scale a need less extravagance Lord ELcuo vindicated the course taken by the com mittee in the adoption of the twenty-five inch scale. Mr. JOSEPH Loon considered that the one-inch scale was sufficient for general purposes, and thought that the government should not be called upon to pay tor a survey for the benefit of landowners alone. The ORD ADVOCATE deprecated repeated changes in the system adopted, and opposed the motion because it in volved no definite pledge. enly the cultivated districts of Scotland are to be surveyed upon the twenty-five inch scale, and the cost altogether would be about £300,000 less than the Irish survey. He urged that the expense of adopting a large scale at once would be less than con tinued increases, as they were found to be necessary. Colonel BOLDER° thought a scale of six inches to the mile would answer every purpose. Mr. VANCE condemned, and Lord PALMERSTON defended the twenty-five inch scale. The House then divided. Upon the reduction of the vote moved by Sir D. Norreys, the numbers were For the amerdment Against ....... . 172 . 162 Majority for reduction lO The amendment was accordingly carried against the government, and the announcement was received with cheers. A division immediately followed upon the question whether the vote as amended should be agreed to. The numbers were— Ayes 290 Noes Majority The remaining votes of the ccinzaittee of supply were then agreed to. The other business was disposed of, and the house aJjourned at ten minutes to two. THE MERSEY CONSERVANCY AND DOCKS BILL. (PROM OUR OWN REPORTER.) HOUSE OF COMMONS, THURSDAY, JUNK 18. The Committee did not sit to-day in consequence of Sir James Graham having to attend a levee, and the other members declining to prosecute the inquiry in his absence. After our parcel was despatched yesterday, Mr. Shuttle worth stated to the committee that the corporation had incurred an expenditure of £l,OOO in promoting a concer vancy bill in the year 1812. In 1839 the corporation bound themselves to contribute annually £1,600 towards the maintenance of the Wallasey and Leasowe embankments, and up to this time they had expended upon that x. ark £30,000. In 1830 they contributed £2,280 towards dredging the Victoria Channel. In 1855 they promoted the Liverpool Improvement Bill for widening and extending Wapping• Under that bill they proposed to harrow £35,000 but when Parliament transferred to them the Birkenhead Docks the measure was abandoned. Mr. SIIUTTLEWORTH was then examined in reference to the Town Dues. He produced the scotch Burge Act of 1833, relating to the improvement of harbours, and also the Reciprocity Treaties Acts of 1819, and 1852, with a view to show that the government recognised the right of levying the Town Dues, and the propriety of giving cony pensation if those dues were repealed. The Co r poration of Liverpool had lev ied dues in respect of anchorage. and those dues were levied under the same title as the Towo Dues. To the CHAIRMAN : With the ex!eption of the contribw tions to the Leasowe embankment, and the Conservancy of the litersty ; these disbursements were voluntary on the part of the Corporation for the benefit of the trade of the port. lea tT NIAGARA. —Large messes of ice, from forty t ° sixty feet in thickness, still remain under the America n side of the Falls, which it is thought will not entirely disappear before the beginning t f July, EMIGRATION.—Daring the month of May, 71 emigran t vessels arrived at New York, bringing over 27,848 pas• sengers—or nearly 900 for every day in the month, is the largest number of arrivals during :any one mont h for the 4!st three years•