The Northern Daily Times. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1856-11-11 00:00:00

The act was worthy of the council, and the 'council would t°l3etifirfn it- (Hear, hear.) To go back . to 1837 and 1838, e °tdd remind them that, in those glorious times, there was - I;" re elY a conservative in the council. Every one who pro ; ssed ea nservative princiles was turned oat. Althoug reform party talked so highly of morality, Lhat was the course followed by them. What gave the council a majority ()j conse rvatives ? The burgesses at large. (Hear, hear.) the e people of Liverpool tried radical principles, and found_ 4 41 wanting ; they then tried the other men, of Them the council was now principally composed. -,,,T,,burgesses were dissatisfied with the radicals, 11 .4; 1 ' 1 ' 0 Y therefore sent in conservatives. (Hear, hear.) m or e hJnest f a i t hf u l discharge of the duties of the council i lleter ch aracterised that body than at present. (Hear, es e. ‘ co on „ bad been for fifteen years a member of the lir a i e , e ", •, and he recollected the time when Sir Joshua let,.: lB, ey used to have to say that, if members did not tle,'' r attend the committees, he would move for a return of t , e ,attendances, that the burgesses might know who, among . . 4 011 1 r re p r esentatives, were the cau s e of the work not being to (Hear, hear.) Now, he could maintain that Lever, experieace were the duties of the council better dis- • is 'ged than at present. No committee was ever neglected honiq deparment, and the work was never more faithfully, N e , s tlY, and regul irly done. (Hear, hear.) a t ;',!* Robertson Gladstone : Mr. Mayor, there is an old I 14'y that a self-praise is no commendation: , Ido not e o :v. whether Mr. Alderman Parker is very expert at t4; ll g texts, but I think this is se very happy ore, and eo -.a little leisure bestowed ulna it might lead to very ttil:sletrable good. Now, sir, in an age of progress such as tis4 t 'ir. Parker has thoeght proper to carry us back over *hid Y e ars - :- to reeer for arguments to matters s entinel e d curred. come twenty years ago. He has ,the 'lB :if what the Lib era l pa r ty did when 4 )ea no e n al i2 into power. With regard to Mr. John terbtrece'ea 'qr. Parker has not stated the facts quite Vinatei o l; air. John Deane Case had an opportunity of ' l e ia ld, if hl ° t n ti very liberal terms in that position which he 4 - hot °tight proper to do so ; but Mr. J. D. Case of an at, or his associates, and he availed himself teti ee „ o 1 )," in which was presented to him, either to r(t o to remai n in his situation as treasurer. There dtp;;" is Unfair to the reroroz partl - I.Q___Bax...that they ufb n . i., ll Y Man flOlll office in consequence of any difference 10 - 6,`Lical inions. Then, sir, what did we do in regard kno w late town clerk, Mr. Foster? (Hear, hear.) We "Ta r t Derfeetly well that he would not remain, for he had tib ;need his intention to that effect ; but look at, the 4 inn e "tY withwhich he was treated. The council offered tif: eit her very large sum of money, or else an annuity. le-saviled himself of the one, and he refused the other. ''.chit ash unfortunately soon after terminated the ki'qa/ Now. is it fair, that we are to be takea back to r lt , i r it 7urred 20 years ago ? Why, sir, acting upon that th. 3' ot h er , might expect tr . • find that lair. Parker, some 4t, el'. would be rooting at the bottom of Dale eaehe„ur .Tames' -street, to look for some of the old R et ,? which used to travel to Chester, and to London, /44ile,3,nsg. altogether that thaea were such things as th' ) NO th e world. (.:sear, hear, and loud cheer. li alt 4sta 'atever beca me o? this council—whoever (Flee to wh om us ',is dignities are entrusted—for God's e, hdivee none of those who would go backwards. e ri ) set us have men who w ill go onwards, and 1 1 0 ,7 th e , — 'All measures w hi c h s h a ll b e b ene fi c i al to their s' of whatever kind, and not men who will cling at a .r •ct'ettos .which are bad and rotten to the very root. ep', l ''!ar.) Now, sir, it is always a very unpleasant, el'elqY unpalatable task, especially I may say to Ott, t , feel it so, to have to differ with others upon a I},ch r o w e here, if harmony could be preserved, it would be ' Ste, re desirable, and I did not propose to touch upon i,,,Nit r ,lcet of Mr.' Shand's qualifications, unless his f erl al lons had been well stirred up by those who pro- "t 1 second.d him. I did not catch very distinctly tin 41 ark s . t)ft tik whkii fell from Mr. Turner, beyond this that Cl. ,illnderstObd him to say that Mr. Shand filled the 4 4 1 'erid e me Pa'• r.v=chairman of the dock committee, and that 9pakrars'eq mportint'services there. Now, I really have ftl'4l ill -feeling whatever towards Mr. Shand. Mr. i h `! , th eca a. good, and, perhaps, a better man than myself, r: t e fore, in speaking of him, I deal with matters tit °,te tie ate immediately to the proposal which is now 11 1A 0 Place him in the chair which you have filled, liCk t t , „ .4l stingulshed a manner. Now, sir, Mr. Tobin, who 4,'1414 , 4 e k h and very able supporter of any cause he takes ot", s Ya r4 "%s, I think, in his adventures in search of a lD•t. -t ulation, travelled a little too far. He has spoken le . oh 11 0 ,ee, , - , 341 (1's services as chairman of the pilots' corn. ratio, h ick. I contend, is not a committee of this cor• kk t ' l tli tl i:; and, moreover, by way of strengthening his t ki t et a r dation, he informed us that a more admirable ti \lcit C e jl , more experienc e d, an d fitt er f or th eir duties, tr, .IPtound than the pilots. There I take exception lil t la I do not think such is the case ; however, tetit,,cuatter of individual opinion, but as he alluded to r e :P . , eil l're to mention what occurs to me upon the subject. Dt E, 4 s i,.. t ,hg disclaimed all personal motives, permit council what is the recommendation which tOlie e Luate fur the high appointment of Mayor can iiit i t titnlZTat are, the qualifications he pos sesses i n or d er toi„ t kled' i s "int t the distinction ? I say that it was of parlia o nient—that it consists with the tone and to,llDeaf,"le Nl unicipal Reform Act—th a t th e i n di v id ual to ul, l e tipbeita'rF,te especialyl„(l as maor should have conferred upon the tl e l f " , y some very em i nent servi ces. Now, t kny one of ihe friends o Mr. Shand to rove Dcl,,yx. s nand has so distinguished himself. In the first Mayor, M r . Sh an d h as b een t w i ce re j ecte d b y th a t he co nstituencies. In the next place—in the yore ° f that expression of public opinion —be was by 51e ate Party to whom Mr. Earle has so forcibly alluded, e,teoloy,,,,lderman. Well, then, sir, although there are tleosit7iltees•—.if I am not incorrect —belonging to the ' i olu t tea ll °4 .l Mr. Shand was no sooner appointed an it' b e ,; 'nag he was put upon no one of them. It is t4tathe d e en e t upon the deck committee, but I contend committee is not a committee of this cur eo,„'•Now, sir, it was incumbent unon the majority 4 0 hi "'ell, who made Mr. Shand an alderman, to °trj 4l7° committees. There lam ;red t n some of the was, ,ts, l l, t o ° B aY, to all appearances, an intentional evasion .W.hieh I must consider, unless I am otherwise th,v hat W as t t,nat Mr. Shard was, more or less, a party. Pt' 48044.'5' Fonseceaence ? That the labour, the duties, i e, t th e o lui llties Which attach to Mr. Shand as a mem lkkleltiteey".rP".ation, were either not attended to at all, leke'fr,,_,l'ere performed by us. Nov, Mr. Shand was ,'l,itt oh gwer of the council. I consider it an honour to ~'llaCt ie r of the council ; but what consideration has ,Liven - „ for that honour ? I contend that, on the Shand, having had that distinction conferred LAt it: A a nd given nothing in return for it, he is already 6 victht to the corporation. And how is it proposed rt r lt it ellltl repay the corporation what he owes ? By mayor. —by increasing the debt. This is the i',l,ell,aaproerit which is given to parties to enter this itti, r eeehis is the mode in which many of the members and übmit to dictation. It is probably reported ‘l7k e lofe t such an individual is walking about the Pop ' r erpool with an offer of the mayoralty in his Vtl h ,Pole t " e rne six, eight, or ten months before the day sN',, t ot we nt arrives. (Hear, hear.) Now, sir, an . k'at'lla o - qa been used, not here, but I have heard it I lINe;i1 • . Slr. Shand's friends, that ho has spent a tl 4lti t t ,'‘ d eal money in the town. No doubt he has spent °J money, and I dare say many members of kllVave received some of the money, .but_ v‘ . VIC (1; 4 to pay Mr. Shand thus hy making him yatlaiontear, hear.) That will not do; that is not a 1 1 4," t ;',,Ple• However, sir, whilst I have stated the tkNpptt /Zioh I entertain, arid which I think ought to ie , s 'iken into consideration, I shall act upon the 1 1441 1 4 e 3 ,'a•ve already stated. I was desirous of giving 41 4 1 ` ) " of what I felt, and I have done so ; but, so ole.coneerned, and many of those with whom I ',,'t } ,'llcii?,sure to act, it is not our wistfthat the time of t 0 4 r t „°; 10 111d be taken up further, but that those who • ' s hy—unfortunately I say—should adopt the kilt link best, without any further interruption 9 A (t ie r''ttil l t ar. hear.) it . Turner claimed the right of reply. He rlict.cl/444e said, in order to vindicate the gentleman \ .k,,,Whi, a k t i minated from the very unfair and unjust Vt . ` " .4 had been made on him by some of the t tl. 1e.1, 11 a ''arle •If n have the right of reply, I also a . y o u : If any person should be allowed 'the i'.4l l l .st b , tt Certainly should be Mr. Turner. Improper sji: w er , vations have been made , and he certainly ~ Rl Pik t 4 3 , o , the privilege of reply. lit can, as mover of the resolution, claim it rear, hear.) Z% k , 'ner their proveded to reply. He said he few words in vindication •of his friend, Mr. d,gci'3h a '%'" thought. had been very unfairly attacked hy t ri eeding speakers. Mr. Gladstone said that not been put upon any committee of the • 'at, therefore, he was not fairly entitled to the : I Cv 4 tilli,Nr: v 4 B now p ro p ose d t o b e c onferred upon him. 4 4 ' re ,s',ltlla,''ltner) should be glad to know from Mr. ‘' Re/list'e w as the object is sen di ng , or what was the 1 t ; 4 4 , . (: ; i e? Iftnan sent, down from the council to the doc k t heir members at the dock committee acted seemed to intimate—he hoped Mr. Glad tN.tit-; ts r - :" .. nn that principle hi mse lf—b u t if, when the y s ent down f rom th e counc il t o th e d o ck ' l,o * .ll nt w ere expected not to work at all—that ke4 13 0,c 0 \ were re O count for nothing—he should be glad nn e i t Purpose they were sent there at all, or frOt, to tivsretained the power of sending twelve repre `liVtaisa. dock olmmittee (Hear, hear.) It was I, t 4 lin' doctrine to lay down, and one which scat re heard of—the doctrine, that though lye e "wn twelve members to the dock, 'optsl. o oars or those gentlemen at the dock com . - ~Teall. , , , lee•d oe considered, when the question of their / I ' tttoind 4. 1 -4 4 `e% for the mayoralty came before the ; 401 1 1 1 , C `"e rl hOtl e a ro ' tey should only take into account the ti a, l el % "Pon committees which were strictly iNtlt 4 , le The t hought that if that were told to their Itt --'°"---who were anxious to throw dirt on NINO • fh did eY sent down gentlemen to the dock a n • nt,t expect those gentlemen to work at 3' e • tt 'h ;conside r edrn.,, the . ight render to that cora ''ll;l4';l r / Ti Ztit-- *" i t t tblie,..- by the council as of the 0, I to te cooe o i ve 't were made known to their opponents, i 4 1 ' ta,L eo nne . anything that would be more pre 41e ort a a ) , e h , , thu did : Will you allow me to say, in ?that ro _ . ° l ;l not state anything of the kind. I 4 to it R never Bent by the council to the dock 114 intended to work. I made a different tisane o al f r ch t:h ati.d. I cemplained that he did private committees of the council. THE NORTITERN Mr. C. Turner : You said that the labours of Mr. Shand on the' dock committee were not to be taken into account, when considering his merits as a candidate for the mayora!ty. Mr. Gladstone : I beg again to say I never stated any such thing. I said, in reference to the committees of this corporation, that Mr. Shand had never. been . placed on any of them. - .. Mr. C. Turner replied that he had not BO understool Mr. Gladstone. However, when a gentleman was sent by the council to the dock committee, he (Mr. Turner) considered that that gentleman, in labouring on the dock committee, was strictly fulfilling his duty as a member of the council-- (heir, hear) —and that any labours he performed oh the dock committee ought to be considered quite as much a merit on his part (if, indeed, there wcre.any merit in dis charging. a duty) as any services on any private committee of the council. (Hear, hear.) It was one of the most im portant committees probably that existed in this or any _other town—(hear, hear)—and he could consider nothing more important than the duties of that 'committee which had the care of the trade and commerce of the port— a trade arid commerce in which the commerce ale) of all England was largely in terested.:Any gentleman, then, stn., fre,in the council on the dock committee had uenierred on him a very important responsibility, and if he properly performed his duty on that post, he (Mr. Turner) consi sidered that he had great claims on the 'council and the toan at large ; and, therefore, he thought he was in order in relying on Mr. Shand's services as deputy-chairman of that committee, in addition td hiB other previous services to the trade of the port, which bad been urged by Mr. Tobin, as his best claims to the office of Mayor. (Hear.) There was another doctrine propounded by Mr. Earle. which was also a very extraordinary one. It was that, in chosing a mayor of the town, they were not to look beyond the walls of the Council Chamber, and that no Matter how great might be the services conferred on the trade of the port by any gentleman out of the council, they - were not to be con sidered. That was a very extraordinary doctrine, and one .which he was confident the council would . not sanction. (Hear, hear.) He did not wish to occupy the time of the council much longer, but there was ono part of Mr. Eirle's observations to which he should refer. To listen to Mr. Earle's speech. one would stippose there was but one party association in the town. (Hear, hear.) Now, he believed there was another party in the town called the Reform Aezociation. (hear, hear, and laughter.) He would ask if that party had not met twice or thrice in the past week? (Hear, hear.) He would ask if Mr. Robertson Gladstone, Mr. William Earle, and Mr. J. R. Jeffery had not attended those meetings? (Hear, hear.) He would undertake to say that some, if not all, of these gentlemen had attended those meetings, and were active members of that associa tion. That association had met also to see whether they could carry out any particular views of their own. He saw Mr. M'Guffie smile, and he had no doubt that he'also had been there. Mr. M‘Guffie : No, I was not there. Mr. C. Turner: You are aware that gentlemen of the council do attend that association. Mr. M‘Guffie : I never have been there. (Laughter ) Mr. W. Earle : Mr. Turner has stated what is not entirely correct. I beg to inform Mr. Turner that those meetings of the reformers to which he has referred were composed of members of this body. They decided ler themselves, and did not go, like the Constitutional Associa tion, to consult the " tag-rag and bob-tail" of their party. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Ald. S. Holmes: I attended that meeting, and I suppose 1 must consider myself one of the " tag-rag and i bob-tail." Mr. Earle is too much of a gentleman to apply such observations to members of the council, and I hope they will be withdrawn. Mr. W. Earle : I did not apply them to you. Mr. C. Turner continued : He was glad to have elicited that fact, though it was already known, that there was such a Reform Association in the town, and that the gentlemen connected with it had met for the purpose of considering whether or not they should propose anybody as Mayor. Well, if one association had a right to meet another had. Mr. Earle had used such words as " in famous." He (Mr. Turner) did not wish to carp at words used in the heat of debate, bet he did think that gentlemen ought to consider the import of words before they used them. (Hear, bear.) And as there happened to be two party associations in the town, one the Reform Association, the other the Conservative Association, and as Mr. Eerie belonged to the Reform Association, and did not be long to the Conservative Association, it was too bad fur him to get up and make his position in the council the opportunity of throwing dirt •on that association which differed from him in politics, and which simply adopted those means to secure their objects which the Reform Association took. In the contests for councillors during the last fortnight, he would ask whether the Reform Association had not taken an important part in returning two gentlemen then in the Council-chamber, and in rejecting others whom the council would like to see among their number. On b e h a lf o f th e Conserva tive Ass 'elation, he should say that it was qui.e as pure, to say the least of it, as the Reform Association to which Mr. E trle belonged. (Hear, bear.) Let them not throw dirt at each other, but let them support, if they thought proper, their own principles and their : own men. They (the Conservatives) supported their own men, because they thought that they would best carry out the principles and measures most for the advantage of the town. But let them do these things without taking the opportunity of throwing dirt on each other, each party having the same means of carrying out their objects which the other had. (Rear, hear.); Mr. W. Earle: You have thrown enough of dirt on me, which I shall take another opportunity of returning. (Laughter) Mr. C. turner : I am reminded by Mr. Bold, that nobody but members of the council were present at the meeting of the Conservative Association referred to. The motion for the election of Mr. Shand to the office of Mayor, was then put and carried without a poll, Mr. Shaud was then introduced by his proposer and seconder, and took the chair, after ' the 'Oa hs had been delivered to him, amid the applause of his supporters. The Mayor elect briefly returned thanks far the honour conferred on him. He said : Gentlemen; I beg you to believe me most sensible of the very high honour you have cincerred on me, in thus electing me to be chief magistrate of this large and important borough, and your president for the ensuing year. I thank you very sincerely for the favour which has thus been shown to me, but I must confess that, at the present moment, the responsibility of the of f ice is quite as prominent in my mind as its honour, and I would fain defer the full expression of my gratitude till that time when, like my worthy predeces sor to-day, I may be enabled to restore the trust which you have committed to me unsullied into your hands. (Applause) I enter now upon duties with which I am not very conver sant, in fact, I must say with which I am very little con versant; and though I should promise you all the application and diligence I possess, yet I feel and know how much depends upon the aid and a ss i s t ance w hich will be given me by the council. (Hear, hear). I ask, and I rely upon your support, both to maintain the dignity of this chair, and that high character which ought and will, I trust, ever mark this important council. The subjects which will be brought before us are of increasing magnitude every day, and will require the utmost and most deliberate attention on our part. I, for my part, can only say that I pray God to bless our united labours, and then, gentlemen, I have no doubt that the results will b 3 such as will not only be beneficial to the town, but highly advantageous to the welfare of our common country and to the interests of the kingdom at large. (near, hear.) Gentlemen, I will not detain you with any further observa tions. I beg you will receive from me this very imperfect acknowledgement of the honour which you have done in?, and will now, if you please, proceed to the business of the day. (Applause.) I bog, however, to say before closing, that I shall observe the lime-honoured custom of proceeding to the parish church next Sunday, and I hope that I will be honoured by the presence of the members of the council on the occasion. (Hear, hear.) ELECTION OF ALDERMEN. The Town Clerk then stated that the next business was the election of eight Aldermen in the room of Messrs. Edward Langsdale; William Bennett, William Preston, James Lawrence, Thomas Dever, Thomas Robinson, Jelin Haywood Turner, and Sir John Bent, whose term of office expired. In conclusion, the Town Clerk explained the manner in which the Municipal Act prescribed the elections should take place. Mr. J. B. Brancker asked if the Municipal Reform Act prescribed that the gentlemen should be first nominated before the poll was taken? The Town Clerk replied that it did not. Mr. Braneker : Is there any objection to such a course ? The Town Clerk : It is the practice for any gentleman to address the council on the subject, and bring forward the names of gentlemen fit for the office; but the council are not bound to. adopt any of such names. They may fill up the l r papers with the names of gentlemen fit for the office, and those gentlemen may be elected, even though they should not be put in nomination. Mr. Braucker thought it desirable and expedient, that the names of the gentlemen whom it was proposed to elect to the vacancies should be before the cou;:cd. Ic might be, that gentlemen came into the room with a list already prepased by themselves, or prepared by others for them, and so were saved from the difficulties of selection ; but he, with many other gentlemen in the council, was not in that Position. They were ready to hear the names of gentlemen eligible to the office of aldermen, and to consider their claims ; and, therefore, on his own behalf, and on behalf of others in the council, he should ask, as a matter of expedi ency, that the names of all the candidates should be given before the council proceeded to the vote. He was aware that he could not enforce it, but tie believed that it was the most expedient course. (Hear, hear, and applause.) himself, would take the liberty of proposing a gentle man. He considered that the office of alderman was one of honour and dignity, and he trusted that the council would so confer it as to cause it to be regarded as such, Ile, for his part, would like to elect gentlemen to the office who were within the council, and who, by their services, by diligent attention to their duties, both as mem bers of the committee and the council, merited the honour. (Hear, hear.) He had his eve on a gentleman who had all these requisites—who not only by length of service, but also TIMES.---LIVERPOOL, by a faithful attention to his public duties, was fairly en titled to the dignity. The gentleman to whom he allUded had also passed the civic chair and had but a few days since received the honour Of a Arai of thanks from the council. In a word, he bogged to propose as a candidate for the office of Alderman, Mr. John Stewart. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Hodson seconded the motion. He considered that any gentleman nominated-for the office of alderman ought to be one who had first been fairly chosen by the constitue eney of. a ward ; and, then, it such gentleman properly and faithfully discharged the duties of his office in the town council, he was fairly entitled to the alder manic dignity. (Rear, hear, and applause.) They knew, however, that gentlemen had procured from the town Clerk, late on Saturday night; voting papers for aldermen, and they also knew that gentlemen came to the council chaMber that day, with the names of parties already prepared, and their voting papers filled up. The names of these parties - had been stated, without any regard to their claims or services ; and he should say that such a course was derogatory to the council. The noise and confusion caused by the members handing in ffieir voting papers, here became very great, an i Mr. Hodson, finding that no one was listening to his just reason ing, wisely desisted. Mr. Shell observing Mr. Alderman Toulmin very busy in correcting some of the voting papers, rose to order. H e thought the Town Clerk might receive the papers without the assistance of the worthy alderman. The Town Clerk explained that several gentlemen had asked him to current errors of description in their papers. Mr. Alderman Toulmin withdrew, and the scrutiny proceeded. Mr. Earle I suppose that we are not all bound to write our own names on the minutes, Mr. Town Clerk ? Is it necessary that our signatures should be in our own hand writing ? Town Clerk • No, sir. Mr. Earle : I ask that question, because I observe that there are a good many names written in a good, bold, con sezvative hand. Mr. Turner : I think you will also find amongst the papers some good fine reform hands. Mr. Earle : No, sir ; we reform the members, not the writing. • The — voting for the choica of aldermen was then proceeddn with, each councillor and aldeLman handing in a voting paper, on which was entered the names of the respective gentlemen for whom each voted. The result of that voting, as declared by the Mayor, was as follows :—For Mr. W. Preston, 49 votes.; Mr. Bennett, 45 ; Mr. Dover, 44 ; Mr. Turner, 41; Mr. Robinson, 39 ; Mr. G. 11. Horsfail, 31; Mr. Chilten, 29 ; Mr. R. Houghton, 29. , The above were elected, and in the course of the proceed ings, made the usual declarations. The following votes were recorded for the undermentioned gentlemen :—Mr. Woodruff, 21 votes ; Mr. Beckwith, 20 ; Mr. Robertson Gladstone, 19; Mr. J. Stewart, 19; Mr J. A. Tobin, 4 ; Mr. Brancker, 2 ; Mr. Tinne, 2; Mr. J. Holme, 1; Air. J. Aikin, 1. The votes were recorded as follows : —Mr. J. R Jeffery vo`e 1 for Messrs. R. Gladstone, Beckwith, J. Woodruff, and W. Preston. Mr. R. Bickwiith for the same gentlemen. Mr. It. Gladstone for Messrs. Woodruff, Beckwith, Brancker, and Preston. Mr. R. Sheil, for Messrs. Woodruff, Beckwith, It. Gladstone, and W. Preston. Mr. Hodson, for Messrs. Gladstone, Beekwil, Woodruff, Preston, Dover, Braneker, and Ste/art. Mr. S. Holme, for Messrs. Houghton, Chilton, G. H. Horsfall, Robinson, Dover, Turner, and Stewart. Mr. M‘Gtifile, for Messrs. Dover, Bennett, Robinson, J. H. Turner, Preston, Beckwith, Woodruff, and R. Gladstone. Mr. Clint, for Messrs. Bennett, Preston, Dover, Robinson, Turner, S..ewart, Beckwith, and J. Holme. Mr. Holden, for Messrs. Dover, Bennett, Robinson, Turner, Preston, Beckwith, Woodruff, and Gladstone. Mr. J. Stewart, for Messrs. Bennett, Preston, Dover, Robinson, Turner, Horsfall, Houghton, and Chilton. H.Banncr, for Messrs. Dover, Bennett, Turner, Preston, Robinson, Tobin, Houghton, and J. Stewart. Mr. Tinne, for Messrs. Chilton, ' Robinson, Dover, Bennett, Turner, Holme, Horsfall, and Stewart,. Mr. Godfrey, for Messrs. Bennett, Preston, Dover, Woodruff, Beckwith, Robinson, and Turner. Mr. J. Holme, for Messrs. Houghton, Chilton, Horsfall, Robinson, Dover, Bennett, Turner and Preston. Mr. Bennett, for Messrs. Houghton, Chilton, Horsfall, Braneker, Dover, Bennett, Turner, and Stewart. Mr. Mellor, for Messrs. Woodruff, Beckwith, Preston, Gladstone, Turner, Bennett, and Dover. _ Mr. Livingstone, for Messrs. Houghton, Chilton, Hors fall, Robinson, Dover, Gannett; Turner, and Stewart. Mr. Toulmin, for Messrs. Houghton, Chilton, Horefa l l, Robinson Dover, Bennett, Turner, and -Preston. Mr. Flemming, for Messrs. Stewart, Chilton, liorsfall, Robinson, Dover, Bennett, Turner, and Preston. Mr. Anthony, for Messrs. Preston, Terrier, Bennett, Dover, Robinson, Horsfall, Gladstone, end Stewart. Mr. Bradley, for Messrs. Gladstone, Bennett, Dover, and Beckwith. Mr. Cooper, for Messrs. lloughton, Calton, Dover, Bennett, and Turner. Mr. A. C. Ctewart, for Messrs. Gladstone, Beckwith, Woodruff, and Preston Mr. Brancker, for Messrs. Bennett, Preston, Robinson, Turner, Stewart, G. bolt, aid Houghton. Mr. Stitt, for Messrs, Woodruff, Preston, Glalstone, and Beckwitb. _ . ' Mr. Mann; for Messrs. Houghton, Chilton, Horsfall, Dover, Bennett, Turner, and Preston. Mr. Anderson, for Messrs. Houghton, Chilton, Horsfall, Robinson. Dover, Bennett, Turner and Preston. Mr. W. Earle, for. Messrs. Preston, Gladstone, Thine, Bennett, Tobin, Turner, and Y. Aikin. Mr. C. Gardner, for Messrs. Dover, Preston, Bennett, Turner, Horsfall, Stewart, and Chilton. • Mr. Nicholson, for Messrs. Preston, Diver, Bennett, Turner, Robinson, Horsfall, Beckwith, and Woodruff. Mr. Wagstaff, for Messrs. Houghton, Chilton, Horsf all, Robinson, Bennett, Dover, Turner, and Preston. Mr. Haydock, for Messrs. Preston, Dover, Woodruff, Bennett, and Gladstone. Mr, Fernihough; for Messrs. Bennett, Preston, Dover, Robinson, and Turner. Mr. Tyrer voted for the same list. Mr. Littledale voted for the same list. Mr. Woodruff, for Messrs. Beckwith, Preston, Gladstone, and Bennett. Mr. Farnworth, for Messrs. Houghton, Chilton, Dover , Robinson, Bennett, Turner, Horsfall, and Ste Wart. Mr. Kitchen, fot Messrs. Woodruff, Preston, .Gladatone, Tobin, Dover, Turner, and Stewart. Mr. Picton, for Messrs. Woodruff, Gladstone, Beckwith, Preston, Bennett, and Stewart. Mr. Steains, for Messrs. Turner, Preston, Dover, Wood. ruff, Beckwith, Gladstone, and Stewart. M. J. Johnson. for Messrs. Preston, Turner, Robinson, Bennett, Dover, Woodruff, and Gladstone. Mr. J. Aikin, for Messrs. Gladstone, Beckwith, Preston, Woodruff, Stewart, and Turner. Mr. B. Hall, for Messrs. Houghton, Horsfall, Chilton, Robinson, Dover, and Preston. Mr. Tobin, for Messrs. Houghton, Chilton, Horsfall, Robinson, Dover, Bennett, Turner, and Preston. Mr. Lawson, for Messrs. Houghton, Chilton, Horsfall, Robinson, Dover, Bennett, Turner, a nd Preston. Mr. J. Robinson, the same gentlemen. Mr. B. Moore, for Messrs. Houghton, Chilton, Dover, Robinson, Bennett, Turner, Horsfall, and Stewart. ' Mr. Bold, for Messrs. Houghton, Chilton, Horsfall, Robinson, Dover, Bennett, Turner, and Prestor. • Mr. A. Shand voted for the sa me list; Mr. W. Jeffery, ditto; Mr. J. G'ailstone, ditto; Mr. Crosthw alto, ditto Afr: C. Turner, ditto ; Mr. Parker. ditto ; Mr. Shand (the mayor) also voted for the same gentlemen. The newly appointed aldermen, who were waiting outside the door, having qualified took their seats. Tne next business proceeded with was THE MAYOR'S ANNUAL ALLOWANCE. On the motion of Mr. S. Holme, the annual allowance of £2,000, Was voted to the mayor, under the usual circumstances. THE MINUTES. The minutes of the last special council meeting were then read, and confirmed. TIA LATE MR. ASEILIN The Mayor said : Before we proceed with any other business, I beg to direct your attention to a note that has been put into my hands by my predecessor in office, and relates to the death of the late Mr. Ashlin. It conveys to the council the death of that gentleman, and is from his brother. The letter alluded to, having been read, the Mayor said that, it is a well known fact, that the council had lost a good and efficient servant, by the death of Mr. Astilin. Mr. Alderman Dover : In the absence, of the late chair man of the health committee, he would take. upon himself to say that the council never had a more efficient servant, and there would, be a great difficulty to supply his place. He had, for the period of 26 years, most faithfully served that corporation. At,the death of their late treasurer, Mr. Ashlin bad expressed a wish to bs appointed as his successor; but'it having been shown to him, what a loss his services sr ea o th he o a se r would have been to the water committee and the liPa?th committee, he had forgone the honour of th at a pp ointment —(hear, Mr. m Dover then concluded byade a great sacrifice in order to some hear)—and ditliteaed thus proposing a resolution to the effect, that the council deeply regret the death of one who had, for upwards of twenty five years, fulfilled the onerous duties he had done, with such zeal and ability, and that a memorial be sent to his family, expressing the heartfelt sympathy of the . council for, their losq. Mr. Alderman Cooper begged to second the motion, and, in so doing, expressed the great loss the water committeo had sustained by the death of that gentleman. Mr. Brancker begged to support the resolution, which was unanimously adopted, THE LATE MEETING. The Town Clerk : We last week held a meeting of this cOnucil, for the purpose of drawing up an address to Lord Palmerston. Legally speaking, that was not a special meeting of this corporation, but a meeting of the abicrmen and councillors comprising it. I wish to know whether TUESDAY. you wish to have the proceedings of that meeting entered on the minutes ? Mr. Turner : What course is usually adopted on such occasions ? The--Town Clerks I move that the proceedings be recorded. On the motion of Mr. Woodruff, seconded by Mr. Turner, the proceedings of that meeting were confirmed and adopted. THE DO( H 0011M(TTEE. 3fr. Turner then moved the appcintment of six Members of the council to be members of the committee for the affairs of the estate of the trustees of the Liverpool docks, upon vacancies occasioned by the retirement from the tolncil, under the provisions of the municipal act, of Mr. Charles Turner, Mr. Edward Langsdale, Mr. Oliver Hol den, Mr. Thomas Robinson, Mr. Matthew Gregson, and Mr. James Huhu. Four of these gentlemen were eligible for re-election, but, in the place of Mr. M. Gregson and Mr. Langsdale, two other gentlemen must b 3 chosen. As their successors, he proposed Mr. F. A. Clint and Mr, H. Hal head. Mr. Cooper seconded the proposition. The Town Clerk, at the suggestion of Mr: Turner, read the formal resolution, which was unanithously adopted ; and the two gentlemen named elected. THE QUARTERLY MEETINGS, &C. _ _ The usual quarterly meetings of the council were fixed for the first Wednesday in February, May and August. The several annual takers were appointed, and the usual standing orders of the council were confirmed. THE APPOINTMENT' OF THE CoMMITIEES Mr. Tinne wished to be allowed to make a few observa tions at the present time on the subject of the appointment of the committees. The council would recollect that, in the year 1854, he made a proposition that the formation of the c rminittees should be taken into consideration by a special committee. At that time he had done so because he then thought that the dudes devolving on the several committees of the council were in some cases great and should be diminished, and from what he had since seen his impression bad not been altered. At that time his impressions had been misconstrued, and there were some in the council who thought that; by a little experience, he would have been led to change his former...opinions. He would say that he had had some experience, and he was confirmed in the views he forMerly entertained, and there`ore it was be thought that it would be most desirable to make some alterat'on in the formation and construcion of same of the committees. He thought that it would be seen that, i looking over the committees, they could not find the right man in the right place. (Hear, hear.) On some committees there was a small, and on another a large, number of members of the council chosen—in some cases one man was on five committees, and on others on two or three. He thought that objectionable. He would also draw the attention of the council to the great number of their committees, which number be thought might be reduced. Therefore, when the proper time arrived, he should move the number of persons that he thought should be on that committee, and he thought that certain duties that were now performed by one com mittee, might be disposed of by another. Ile thought that the most respectful coursa for him to pursue, would be to take each committee as it came before the council. TUB FINANCE COMMITTER. After a few observations from several councillors, as to the proper course to be adopted in appointing this com mittee, _ Mr. S. Hohne proceeded to name sixteen gentlembn as members of the committee. Mr. Tinne then moved, as an amendment, that the com mittee should only consist of twelve members, and sug gested that the business of the marine stores should be referred from the finance to the watch committee, and that of the improvement committee and the observatory committee to the finance committee. With regaid to the observatory committee, their business, he said, was purely of a formal character: Mr. R. Gladstone seconded the amendment. Mr. Holme was about to address the council, but was informed he was oat of order. Mr, Fernihough said he was not. prepared for the amendment that had been moved by Mr. Tinne. He opposed the amendment, believing that if any alteration was made that it would not work well for the council, or ba of any benefit to the town. Mr. Bennett spoke in defence of the present arrange ment of the committee. Mr. J. Stewart said he thought that Mr. Tinne was quite mistaken in his views of the question when he sug gested a redu'etion of the number of the committees. He had been a member of committees for some long time, and he did not think it would be desirable to lessing the number, but he did think it would be a good alteration to have the marine store department .referred to the watch committee. (Cries of vote vote). Mr. Alderman S. Holme observed that the finance com mittee was broken up into a number of sub-committees, each of whic - i, had a great deal of important business to attend to. There was the parliamentary sub-committee, which was likely to have a great deal of employment iu the next Session of Parliament. Thole was the weights and measures in.commi6tee, the accounts of which h a d t o b e examine]. 'and passed every week. There were the auditors' sub-cammittee, the town dues sub-committee, and - the machine testing sub-committeg ; each and every one of earn, with large and important business to attend to. It should also be remembered that, in the summer time, many members of the council were absent; and, if the committees were reduced to twelve, he feared that the sub-committees could not always count on a quorum. He should, therefore, Persevere in his motion. Mr. Tiune then withdrew his amend e ment, as to the number of the committee, but - observed that hi should persevere in moving that the duty, of granting marine store licenses be transrerred to the watch committee. Mr. Alderman S. Holme : And to that, I have not the slightest objection. Mr. Holme then proposed the name of each individual member of the committee, and Mr. Hornby, Mr. Bramley-Moore, Mr. Pi cton , Mr:Parker, Mr. J. H. Turner, Mr. Cooper, Mr. Tyrer, Mr. W. Preston, Mr. Fernihough, Mr. Dover, Mr. Tebbe, Mr. J. Stewart, Mr. Earle, Mr. Brancker, Mr. John Aikin, and, himself (Ur. Holme,) were unanimously elected. When Mr. Alderman Toulinin's name was proposed, Mr. Robertson Gladstone rose to move an amendment. He said that, it was no personal disrespect to Mr. Toulmin that prenipted him to do so, but that it was the opinion of a great many members of the council, that, as regarded Mr. Toulmin, it was desirable that another name should be substituted for his on the committee. He should, there fore, move as an amendment, that Mr. Sheil be elected as a member of the committee, particularly . so as the votes on the question would test whether they were sincere in their detire to elect the best men, no matter who they might be.. Mr. A. C. Stewart seconded the amendment. Mr. Alderman Dover demanded, that some reason should be given for the rejection of Mr. Teulmin, besides a simple objection to his name. He did think, and he thought still, that solicitors bad better not be on the finarce committee. (Hear, hear.) That qui stion was, however, solemnly argued in the council some years sluice, and he and those who agreed with him were in a minority on the occasion, and the coun cil having so asserted the principle, that solicitors were qualified to sit on the finance committee, he should now, unless good reason were shown to the contrary, vote for Mr Toulmin- Mr. A. C. Stewart replied that it was easy to give such reasons. First of all, Mr. Toulmin was a solicitor, and, though the council at one time held that solicitors might be on the committee, still their laws were not lite those of the Medes and Persians, never to be altered. Again, Mr. Teti:llmin did not regularly attend his duties in the council, and it was therefore right to infer, that he equally neglected them in committee. (hear, bear.) Mr. Alderman S. Holme remarked that Mr. Toulmin was a regular attendant at the committee meetings—(hear, hear)—and that, if there were an objection to solicitors being on the committee, they should also object to archi-. tects and surveyors being there. (Hear, hear.) _ Mr. Alderman Toulmin : I have to state that I attended the committee oftener than any other member on it. I challenge any member to say that he attendel oftener than I did. The amendment was then put and lost by 20 to 36. The voting,was as follows : For the amendment :—Cceincillors : Messrs. Stitt, Stewart, Woodruff, Ilaydoek. Nicholson, McGuffie, Holden, Steains. Tinne, R. Gladstone, Earle, Johnson, Jeffery, Kitchen, Hodson, Mellor, Beckwith, Aikin, Clint, and Anthony-20. Against the amendment :—Councillors : Messsrs. Crosth waite, Bradley, Godfrey, Littledale, Tyrer, Turner Livingston, Banner, Fernihough, J. Gladstone, jun., Wagstaff, Lawrence, Shand, Fleming, Brancker, Tobin. Piston, Farnworth, ,Robertson, Hall, and Halhead, Aldermen : Messrs. Chilton, Bennett, Preston, Horsfall , Dover, Robinson, Turner, Houghton, Bold, Parker, Cooper, Gardner, Toulmin, Halme, and the Ilayor-36. It will be observed that Mr. Toulmin voted for himself, but that Mr. Sheil did not. Mr. Robertson Gladstone then moved that Mr. J. R. Jeffery be elected in the room of Mr. Toulmin. Mr. Alderman . Toulmin : Can the votes be taken for that ? I understand not. The Mayor decided that they could. Mr. A. C. Stewart s , conded the amendment. Mr. Aikin and Mr. Tinne declared that they should vote for Mr. Toulrnin, on the ground that the sense had been fairly expressed in the matter, and that any further motions would be factions. The arnendm, nt was lost by nine to forty-fire, Mr. Gladstone, Mr. Haydock, Mr. Woodruff, Mr. Sheil, Mr. A. C. Stewart, Mr. Hodson, Mr. Kitchen, Mr. Beckwith, and Mr. Stitt, alone voting for it. Mr. Alderman Toulmin was, accordingly, declared elected on the committee: . Mr. Tinpc's motion, that the granting of marine store dealers licenses be transferred to the watch committee, was lost on a show of hands. WATCH, LIGHTING, AND FIRE POLICE COMMITTEE. Mr. Johnson proposed that the following gentlemen con• stitute the committee—Messrs.' Anderson, Godfrey, Hal head, Brancktr, Holden, W. Nicholson, John Gladstone, W. P.'Jeffreys, Bold, Clint, Robertson, Mann, Livingston, Fern worth, Atkin, Steains, Stitt, and Johnson. Mr. Charles Turner suggested that the name of Mr. It. Houghton be added to the committee, as that gentleman had been once a very active and useful member of it. Mr. Tinne considered the number of the committee already too large, and moved that it be reduced to sixteen. Mr. Beckwith stconded the motion. Mr. Hodson fully agreed with the motion. He had felt it necessary himself, upon many occasions, to make remarks upon the proceedings of the watch committee; and he had always found that they had a large majority in the council, even in cases where they had been obliged to admit that there was a great deal of force and truth in the remarks he had made. If that committee were to be increased to tinetUn, nearly one-third of the council, he should like to know what chance there would be of carrying an amend ment upon their proceedings, even supposing that the amendment was just and required ? Now, he had been a member of that council for eight years, and it was well known that he had a desire to be a member of the watch committee. He could have no personal motive in desiring to become a member of that committee—his only motive was, that he believed he could be serviceable in that capacity. His avocations in life were such as frequently brought him in contact with many of the officers of the watch committee, and he felt that he could be of essential service to it, He was already on three important com mittees, and had no personal desire to increase his work, but his object was to do the best he could for the town of which he was one of the repreientatives. But although it was a well known fact that he had had that desire for some years back to g 3 upon the committee, systematically he had been objected to. In this instance there were new names (he did not object to Mr. Steains or Mr. Stitt, both were men who would do honour to the committee), the names of men who .had barely entered the portals of that room, selected for the committee, while he, au old member, because he did his duty by exposing the committee in important matters, is he should always think it his duty to do, was always •careftilly and systematically kept t.,ff it. 'lt had COnle . tQ his ears that it was said he must not be allowed into the conlmittee. Why was that ? Was there something in the back ground which required to be clouded ? Ile contended that the council had a right to put gentlemen upon committees on which they them3elves felt that their services would be beneficial. Finally, he supported Mr.- 'Clone's proposition to reduce the numbers. Mr. Johnson declined, after the remarks made by Mr. Hodson, to sane ion any alteration in the numbers, even in the instance of Mr. Houghton, as suggested by Mr. Turner. The council divided, when Mr, Tiant's motion was .rejected. Mr. Tinne moved that the committee consist of nine teen members, and that Mr. Houghton's name be added. Mr. Alderman Cooper seconded the motion. 3Slr. Alderman Dover suggested that the committee should consist of twenty members, and that Mr. Hociz,:r.'s name should be added to it, as he would give less trouble in it than out of it. (Laughter.) He remarked that Mr. Hodson always opposed the proceedings of the smoke com mittee, until he was put on that committee, and then, instead of being a grumbler, he became a very active supporter. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) Mr. Tobin agreed with a great that of what hal been said, as to the disadvantage of having the committee too numerous, and he disapproved of the increase to nineteen. He did not think, however, there was any difficulty in the present instance. He did not think either Mr. Stitt or Mr. Steains could feel that there was any personal objection to them, it those who had known Mr. Houghton as a most attentive and valuable member of the committee in former years, felt bound to vote for him now against one or other of those gentlemen. That cuurse he declared that he should adopt. _ _ Mr. Godfrey said, he could meet the difficulty corn ple,ely. He begged to withdraw his name from the committee. lie had not attended its meetings for some months, in consequence of a remark made by Lord illaring ton in the. House of Commons, about a brewer being a member of the committee. He was told by the Town clerk this did not apply to him, but he felt it. He, there-' fore, begged to withdraw his name, remarking that this was the second time he had asked leave to do so. (Hear, hear.) The Mayor : The council may accept the resignation, without at all adopting Lord Ebrington's remarks. The name of Mr. Houghton was accordingly substituted for that of Mr. Godfrey. Mr. Samuel Holme suggested that the name of Mr. Mann, who was a member of the dock committee, , and was moreover not in good health, should be withdrawn, and that of Mr. Hodson added. Mr. Alderman Dover supp3rted the suggestion. Mr. Johnson opposed it, on the ground that Mr. Mann vas now restered to health, and was a most useful member. Mr. Alderman Bold thought it would be hurtful to ➢ir. Mann's feelings. Mr. Hodson said, whatever he might feel upon the ques tion he had spoken of, he was certainly not there to go against a gentleman of such respectability and attention as Mr. Mann, who had only absented himself on account of ill health. He would not, therefore, allow his name to be proposed in opposition to Mr. Mann. He could readily undprstand the determined hostility of the resolution not to have him on the committee, but he should, nevertheless, persevere in the course which he thought his duty, whether he should be a member of the committee or not. The sumgestion was then withdrawn, and the committee constituted as proposed, with the single alteration men tioned. Mr. Woodruff then moved that the duties of the hackney carriages and dicensing committee be placed under the arrangement of the watch committee. The former committee had had the charge for six years. At first there was a great deal of trouble to put the thing in a proper shape ; but now it was so well organised that it could fairly be referred to the watt committee. The latter commi tee had the control of 800 or 1,000 men, and every one of these men could become a hackney coach inspector, and thus the work would be done much more efficiently than at present. When it was taken into consideration that there were sometbing like 4,000 carts and carteis in Liverpool, and nearly 1,000 drivers in Liverpool, he asked how it was possible that a committee, which had only two men under its control, could manage the duties ? if they wanted their hackney carriage arrangements carried out with efficiency and advantage to the town, and in a manner becoming of the corporation, let them place these arrangements under that committee which had charge of the whole police force. Mr. Earle had great pleasure in seconding the proposition. He thought the business so obviously one connected entirely with police arrangements that it ougut to be under the charge of the watch committee. • There would be also a great advantage in giving the police something to do, instead of • walking about the streets, show ing what a handsome set of fellows they were —as indeed they were, and very well drilled, and with as much pipeclay as they need to have. (Laughter.) Let them pay some attention to the hackney carriages. There were also those monkeys of porters, who went riding about the town as if they were Queen's messengers. (Laughter.) He saw a fellow yesterday on a mule, which he must needs flog to make it kick for the amusement of the lookers-on ; and his friend, William Rathbone, bad nearly had his broad-brim kicked off. (Laughter.) The police would be well employed in attending to these irregular fellows. Mr. - Clint urged that the watch committee had already enough to do. Mr. Tinne and Mr. Hodson supported the proposal ; Mr. Bennett and Mr. Fernihough opposed it. The proposal was lost by 39 to 15. IMPItOVEMENT COMMITTEE. Mr. Alderman Bannett moved that the following gentle men constitute this c)mmittee:—Messrs. Gardner, Robin son, Johnson, Picton, W. P. Jeffrey, Earle, Robertson, Kitchen, Livingstone, J. R. Jeffery, Stitt, Steains, Mellor, Anthony, and Bennett. Mr. 'Finns Moved, as an ame❑dment, that the committee do merge into the finance committee, on the ground that the act of parliament had expired which required the services of the committee. Mr. Turner, Mr. Uolme, and other gentlemen opposed the amendment, which - was put to the vote and lost. The committee was elected as proposed. COURTS OP LAW AND ST. GEORGE'S HALL. Mr. Alderman J. H. Turner moved the following, list of names.:--Messrs. John Stewart, Bramley-Moore, Picton, Parker, Tobin, Braneker, S. Holme, William Earle, and J. Turner. Mr. Tinne moved that the duties of the town hall establishment committee, and those of that committe be merged into one. The amendment, however, was not sec ended, and the committee was elected as proposed. MARKETS COMMITTEE. Mr. Alderman Cooper moved the following: Messrs. Johnson, Farnworth, Banner, Woodruff, W. P. Jefferys, M'Guifie. Chilton, Robertson Gladstone, Holden, Shoji, and Bradley. As Mr. M'Gaffie wished to retire, the name of Mr. Beckwith was substituted for his, and the list was adopted with this alteration. • EDUCATION COMMITTER, The following gentlemen were appointed, on the motion of Mr.' Banner :—Messrs. Anderson, G trdner, Wagstaffe. Beckwith, Fleming, J. Gladstone, W. P. Jcfferys, Alexander Sband, W. Nicholson, Robertson, Hill, Crosthwaite, Bradley, Livingstone, Steains, and Banner. Mr. Tinne moved that the number be redncei to twelve ; and Mr. Bradley seconded the 'notion, which was, however, lost upon a division. GAOL AND HOUSE OF CMRECTION a , MMITTEE. The following were appointed :—The Mayor, Messrs. j. Stewart, Hornhy, C. Turner, Gladstone, S. Hnlme Ander son, J. H. Turner, Tobin, Holden, G o df rey, P ar ke r, Ban ner, Horsfull, and 'Houghton. TOWN HALL ESTABLISHMENT COMMITTEE— The following gentleme n were appointed :—Messrs. J. H. Turner, the Mayor, Brarnley-Moore, Preston, Horxiby , Littledale, Samuel Holate, Tobin, Gladstone, Gardner, Horsfall, and Stewart. HEALTH COMMITTEE. The following g entl emen were appo i n ted :—Messrs. Dover, Beckwith, Sheil, Fleming, Robertson Gladstone, Godfrey, James Hohne, Hodson, Johnson, M‘Gurfie, Crosthwaite, Tinne, A. C. Stewart, Haydock, Stitt, Holden, and Anthony. Mr. Time moved that the number..be reduced to 16, 5 and the duties of the baths' committee transferred to this committee. The motion however received no seconder. . • GARDENS' COMMITTEE. On the motion of Mr. Preston, Messrs. Gardner, Ben nett, Beckwith, Woodruff, Steains, Fleming, A. Shand. Clint, Crosthwaite, and Preston, were appointed members of this committee. CLIURCH EXPENDITURE COMMITTEE. Mr. Banner moved that the following gentlemen be the committee, which was agreed to :.—Messrs. Wagstaff, W. P. Jefferm A. C. Stewart. A. Shand, Mann, Lawrence, Kitchen, Bradley, and Banner. OMR UNTATORY COMMITTEE. Mr. Tyrer moved the following list :—Messrs. M‘Guffie, J. Gladstone, Hall, Wagstaff, Aikin, Tinne, Bennett, Bold, Bramley•Moore, and Tyrer. The list was adopted. WATER COMMITTEE. Mr. Cooper moved the following nwnes :__Messrs. Braneker, Hornbv, Holme, 'Woodruff, Hodson, Waroaff, Thine, John Gladstone, Livingstone, Farnworth, Earle, Chilton. Horsfall, and Cooper. Mr. Clint su i l - gested that Mr. Bennett be appointed on the committee. Mr. Ablerinan Holme said be would support the sugges tion, on the ground assigned by Mr. Dover in a former instance. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) • Mr. Turner moved that Mr. Bennett be substituted for Mr. Horsfall. who desirel to retire. • The motion was agreed to, and with this alteration the list was carried. LIBRARY AND MUSEUM CIMMITTER. . Mr. Picton moved the following gentlemen:--111.2ssr:t. Fleming, Bennett, Beckwith, Woodruff, Earle, A. C. Stewart, Hodson, Kitchen, Aikin, Laurence, Steains, Stitt, and Picton. The list was agreed to. Mr. Pieton stated, that the act of Parliament allowed the committee, at the discretion of the council, to add to their numbers from outside the council. Hitherto they had not thou tht this desirable ; but, on this occasion, he ventured to propose the name of a gentleman, not now a member of the council, but who had been an acifFe. useful, and energetic member of the council. and of that c.-mnalittee, who was universally respected, and whoso assista;:fte would he most valuable—Mr. George !Jolt. (Rear, hear.) That gentleman was willing to continue his services in the committee if the council thought proper. The motion was carried. Mr. Alderman J. 11. Turner thought as they had estab lished the principle, there was a gentleman pre-eminently "entitled 'by his character and his princoly liberality-to such an honour—Mr. William Brown. (Hear, hear.) He proposed that Mr. Brown's name be added to the com mit t ee. _ _ _ Mr. Alderman Holm seconded the motion, which was unanimously adopted. Mr. Picton said the committee felt the ;desirability of acting upon Mr. Brown's suggestion for commencing the e,::y building as soon as possible. He had to propose, theretert;, in order that no time should be lost, that it be an ingtructi6D to the committee to proceed with the plans for the new building, and tm procure tenders for the erection, subject to the approval of the council. Accord ing to the estia;ate of the sur-::f•yor, the expense of the plan recommended by fir. Brown would he from £30,000 to .t 32,000. Taking the la;;? - t' at!rn, and adding the expense of the land, as estimated by to surveyor, the amount required for carrying out the object be £47,000. To meet that their finances stood as foltj:vsre,,,, d l — , e T n e e Y r had £lO,OOO already in hand. Mr. Brown p them with 812,000. making £22.000. The value the old building was estimated by the surveyor at .£4,009, making .e 26.000. Thy y ilad power to borrow, ender their act of Parliament. £20,000. That would make 4846,000 against the required £47,000, and if they took a mean of 831,000 as the cost of the new building, it would be exactly the sum at their disposal. As they did not attempt to make any inroad on the corporate purse, the presumed there would be no objection to adopt the reso lution he proposed. Mr. Kitchen seconded the motion. Mr. Earle thought there was no need of such extraordi- - nary haste in procuring tenders. They had already made fools enough of themselves in advertising for a building for £20,000 which could not be erected for £.10,000. He urged a postponment until another council. Mr. Tyrer : There is a great difference also about the situation. I understand the gentleman who has been so very liberal objects to the situation. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Turner also urged Mr. Pieton to postpone the motion for the present, until the whole subject could be more deliberately considered. Mr. Pictort finally consented to withdraw the motion until the next council. HACKNEY CARRIAGES' COMMITTEE. The following committee were appointed on Mr. Wood ruff's motion :—Messrs. Bennett, W. P. Jeffery s, Holden, Wagstaff, M'Cruffie, Kitchen, Beckwith, Godfrey, and Woodruff. BATIIS AND WASIIOUSES' COMMITTEE. On the motion of Mr. Wagstaff. the following commit tee was appointed :_Messrs. Fernihough. Parker, Al , Guffie, J. Gladstone, Fleming, W. P. Jefferys, Branoker, Lawrence. and Wagstaff. WATER BAILIFF'S COMMITTEE. On . the motion of Mr. Bold, Messrs. Mann. Tfornby. C. Turner, Littledale, Clint, A. C. Stewart, and Bold, werd appointed the committee. OAS COMMITTEE. Mr. Kitchen moved the following committee, who werd elected:—Messrs. Crosthwaite. A. C. Stewart, Bradley, J. R. Jeffrey, Woodruff, Mellor, Dover, R. Gladstone, Sheil, Haydock, and Kitchen. BIRKENHEAD DOCK COMMITTEE: Mr. Alderman S. Holme moved the following committee : —Messrs. Hornby, J. Stewart. Mann, Earle, Robertson Gladstone, Bold, Aikin, Bramley.Moore. Tobin, J. R. Jeffrey (in the room of Mr. Picton, retiring), Clint, Charles Turner, and S. Holme. THE , APPROACHES TO THE BITER. Mr. W. Earle said that he should be the last person la the world to wish to injure the commerce of the port, for it was by that we all lived—.(hear, hear,)—but he thought that the inhabitants of Liverpool and Cheshire, for both were equally interested, ought to have better approaches to the river than they now had. (Hear, hear.) Millions of people annually crossed the river. but they did so at danger to life and limb, in consegnence of the crowded state of the approaches—an evil wh►ch would be rendered still worse when the new landing stage was erected. (Hear, hear.) It was necessary that they should take the subject into consideration, and he should, therefore, move that it be referred to a select committee, with instructions to report as to the best means of improving the approaches ; the committee to consist of Mr. Bennett, Mr. Bold. Mr. C. Turner, Mr. James Holme, Mr. Tobin. Mr. R. Gladstone, Mr. J: It. Jeffrey, Mr. ' John Aikin, Mr. J. Stewart, and himself. Mr. Alderman Bold seconded the motion. Mr. Hodson: Is all the expense to fall on the people of Liverpool ? Mr. Alderman Parker: To be sure it is. ' ' I ,lMr. Hodson:: Then I object to it. I have no objection to a joint committee, the expense to be borne by the dock committee, the corporation, and all who participate lathe 1 benefit of the improvement, but Ido protest against the , town of Liverpool being saddled with all the expense. (Hear, hear). Mr. Alderman Parker : It will all end in a borough rate—they are driving at it. Mr. Alderman Cooper thought the evil might be remedied by having other approaches to the river. Mr. W. Earle: The south end ? Mr. Alderman Cooper : I wish you would attend to your own business, Mr. Earle. IMr. W. Earle : You are attending to yours. (Groat laughter). .. Mr. Alderman Cooper contended that the best thing would be to have approaches to the river at some other quarter of the town. After some conversation the motion was adopted. RESIGNATION OF MR. AVVIIRRGEI. A letter was read from Mr. John Wybergh, resigning the office of treasurer of the borough. Mr. Alderman S. Holme said : It became his duty to move that the resignation be accepted, and he did so with mixed feelings of pleasure and pain—with pain, that the eorporatiOn were about to lose the services of a most valuable officer—one who had filled the office of treasurer for a period of over twenty years with efficiency, courtesy. and fidelity—(hear, hear)—but with pleasure that, having now approached a late period of life, he was about to re.. tire into privacy with abundant means at his disposal. It would b.! invidious if he were to eulogise the name of one officer, overlooking those of others ; but he did think he might venture to say, without detracting at all from the respect which was due to the other officers, that none of them had fulfilled their trust better than Mr. Wybergh had done. (Hear, hear). And, while they rejoiced that e cy y e bo w efr o ag u nh l . d !I o ff ic er a c v o e nwe t ih h ua e . circumstances enabled him to retire from the toils and labours which he endured for many years, he (Mr. Holme) greatest difficulty ipwnrionstitomrstepehsidey:liuntatghisoetnmno:arP. for one, had no hesitation in saying, t iw h a had been so valuable resignation That this having council..be a • considerings accepted,in 1r tilhe° t l h fu e lelo faithful services of the treasurer, Mr. Wybergh, Wybergh, during a period exceeding twenty years, desire to record their approbation of the- zeal and ability with whioh he discharged the duty of his responsible office. the unvaried courtesy* and the, fidelity which he has manifested in the trust subject to him ' • and the record of tiistheeouwniesihLtihnart he ece may ivin enjoy every his resignation, i s ac companied by happ iness in his retirement." (Hear, hear.) Mr. Robertson Gladstone seconded the motion, which was unanimously adopted. The vacancy must, by law, be tilled up twenty-one days after the acceptance of the" resignation. A special council will, therefore, have to be summoned f or th e purpose. Applications from Mr. A. Tweedie, Mr.A. Neilson, Mr. C. W. Rippon, Mr , Peter Chaloner, &c., for the office, were reterredo the finance Committee. A memorial from the inhabitants of Birkenhead, is reference to the approaches to the river, was referred to the special committee on that subject. ttrA letter from Mr. John Laird, asking that the notices for the improvement might be given this session, was referred to the same committee. A memorial from the Architectural Society, against the emplOyment of the corporate officers in private business, was referred to the Town Clerk. A memorial from the Choral Festival Society, for a revision of the charges made for St. George's Hall for concerts and rehearsals, was referred to the St. George's Hall committee. A memorial, as to the anchoring of vessels in the track of the ferry steamers, was referred to the committee 04 harbour matters. The council then broke up.: