Northern Times. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-11-29 00:00:00

NOV - EMBEIt 29, ISS a. bltt IlU ea to have the effect of swelling. the `ranks "ch"obscure followers," that 'the lioyal and Weil-affected must feel themselves bound to dis %Rtenance it. ANT) IMPROVED PRINCIPLE OF IRON. SHIP-JACILDING. ribdel of an iron-built ship, constructed on a new Primehas been exhibited within the last few days, z „ . ,7e office of Messrs. - 6, Brown & Co., Drury-lane ; It will, we understand, be displayed ta-day in the v: lla nge News-room.. It is .the invention of Mr. ' ll rY Jordan, of this town, a well-known ship-builder li g t eat experience and ingenuity. The points sought t IY to be attained in the invention of Mr. Jordan, 4e greater strength in the structure, and also a less w fi‘ e lAt of m e t a l. - The ship is constructed on what is Z l , l°t ninated the -Tore and aft frame—that is, it has a fe ather," or -eYtension of the keel, completely up to p r ,,, el3 Nver, or main deck, dividing:the hull into two corn "rents from stem to stern ; the extended keel acting. L ' a longitudinal • t i„ bulk-head, and adding immensely to e : s trength of the vessel. The frame of the ship is b PoSed •Of a series of ribs made of angle-iron, and t,'„ e lling in a horizontal direction from the stern 4 ; 411 bmv on both sides. These ribs'are placed on and p ttn ed to the over-laps of the outside plates; the rivets : 4 2 7 1,7 .- through the plates and the frame, thus adding t i ' Z'aerably to the strength of the whole' fabric,. each haying to pass through three thicknesses of hon. 'krierly . the vessel is divided into ten compartments transversebulkheads running. across the vessel, ZelY rivetted to the . two traneverso angle-irons, 1 - "' l 2ed to the inside of the frame, and also to the main 4 , lip to the lower or main:deck, thus giving a greatly e nn ,.u B ed power of resistance :to any. shock. the vessel Tj'encou n ter either vertically cr horizontally. Still 7 . 2 11 er to strengthen her, it.may be proper to state that._ e'Y butt in the outside plating is over-lapped by the 1 ,;,..` and aft frame, thus rendering it impossible, or any ',.) - ' ll -ess.or tearing to take place at the butts. , Another i'"antage incidental to this form of construction will be , ta tlli d in the fact, that ships built in , accordance with it , 14 be constructed in considerably less time than by. the litod usually employed. , o Csides its applicability to iron-built ships, Mr. principle is equally . suited to the construction w ood-built vessels. A medel.of a wood-built ship on tie fore a nd a ft f rame p r i nc ipl e -i s also exhibited along if the iron one, which, in even a more striking degree, to P° B sible, than - the iron one, illustrates; the advantages 4 derived from this , - new mode of framing—the bole of the ship being built of straight timber. The 14;11„eie 11Ple appears to he simple and ingenious and 'we wh k o doubt it - will receive that anaouut of B attntion the subject,merits. . HIE LATEST NEWS Orr BRITISH TISH AND IRISH MAGNETIC TELEGRAPH.] FRANCE. PARIS,, Nov. 28. Count Walewski. and Prince Richard Aletter -1411 had an interview to-day at two o'clock. FRENCH CHINESE EXPEDITION. T he Moniteur of: yesterday contains an :order °I the day by Geneml Monteuban, the French Nal/lam:leaa the expedition to China. -Re tells the troops under his.. orders that they are called to undertike,a glorious expedition. For the 4 nd ti me , he say s , y our fl ag w ill unite ith 1. te M , of England, andlhat union will be apledge of ' vi Qtory, ,as that of the two nations is n, pledge of Peac e to the whole -world. 'THE FRENCH FUNDS.. . PARIS., _Monday. 12.20 p• • m —Thc .Bourse continues. ;very,,Aull. 41. e 70f. 10c. 3 ' l6 .—Funds close buoyant. The last price , of r, I xtes is 701. 25c., being an advance of 1-.Ter 'tlt. since Saturday. THE CONGRESS. TURIN, Nov. 28. 11 The PiedmOntese Government has received no Il ltnuniention intimating the opposition of Anus in the Congress on, account of the nomination 12 1 . Buoncompagni to the regency of Central 4 71- The difficulties made by Tuscany to,the :Ration of the regency of M. Buoncompagni '4 .tiot yet been settled. 44 1 %..Desambroix will leave.fcr Paris in the _first 9 f December. PARIS, Nov. 28. It ' t he 1 2.assertecl that the letters, of convocation to Congress will not be seat out before to- ITALY. Oktiba s tui has issued a proclaLnation dated 110 a, 23rd and addressed to his 4 comrades in k), Italy.. tti L desires them not to allow his temporary the — iace to weaken their ardour in the,holy cause ar e engaged in; and bids them remain at 41 4 post, persevering in their duties, wtiCh can make a soldier. The truce, he says, will not last long. Old Iti tklacv seems but little disposed to see ithings eY are. They ignore the fact that ;they kre in you the making of a great nation if you Itv f ree and independent ; and the seeds of a 41 ,: i tition that -will shake the world if our rights not recognised, if we are not allowed to be : 444 . t ers in our own house. taus, do not lay down your arms. Citizens, ' , lore not be one who dOes not prepare a Iti l3oll to wrest by force to-morrow what we are striving to obtain by the hands of justice. I Ti - LE DANISH DISPUTE. FRANKFORT, O.M. (1 11(3 Danish Government has made to the Diet, through the medium of the repre r4 — ticres at Frankfort, the following proposal ti o ri ett ling the difficulties of the Holstein clues committee, one-half of the members of or V'. is to be appointed by the General Council Di "tote of D enmark, an d th e o th er ,Z2alf by the e f the D uc h y o f H o l s tein, to be assembled th e ° P e nhagen. This committee is to propose 1110cli fi.cations which are to be made iz the ) constitution of Holstein. The proposed modifica tions are to besubmitted to the examination of the Diet of Holstein before the Danish Government is to decide definitively on the subject, of the pro posals of the committee. The Diet of Holstein would, in that case, have a .consultation vote on the project of the proposed reforms of its consti tution. It is said that. Prussia is not quite satis fied with this proposal of Denmark, and claims the full acceptance of all the reclamations of Holstein, and also that the Diet of Holstein is not to have a consultative but a deliberative and definitive vote. As it is likely that the Court of of Copenhagen - will not agree to this demand of Prussia, it is said the 'whole question of the Ger man Duchies will be submitted to the' approach ing Congress. PRUSSIA. THE KING'S HEAI;TH. BERVIIq, Monday. Prussian agents have left for England in order to inspect those places on the -South Coast which might 'be suitable for his 'Majesty the King of Prussia to reside during the winter months, and in order to make such prepartitions as are requisite; tlipranrp, hpsirloc thp Isle if Wight, Tlnr , aptgldro is also to be inspected. • • CONTINENTAL MARKETS. 'There has been ,a fall in the Corn Markets in Prance. At Naples also prices have fallen. - The accounts from Spain are adverse to the t prospect of admitting' grain duty free. The rigour with which the French" .. erpalition is fitting out has a good effect on tradciin France, by inspiring, confidence 'in the maintenance of good relations betwen France and. England. !cts for 'atioria.~ it such te par e abeli- e have usiness on had: lust be But >elation poWer s very mselveS cl be to" t of tho' e coun- ,hera to ping a o f the out the- Tseding r of the mselS . C 3 )th der sureV' a. result' ig thao Ig. UFO ° St 01n 'di' 1 gO t° -haw' lost lin' Sand► C give ° ) l e or itt s gicing' s uch an Of iis ICCS~ ~glC~'~' ga inin`j ;sible t° such '''' )ersuacle are the Ll l astratea ' courser nia iDll nt O 1 loo' idenCe`' o pertY rs of the the b est tivlli eh .4 FIRE . AT THE CU STOM-11,0,USE. Nov. 28. There was an . alarm of fire at the Custom-house. between eight and nine - o'clock ' - a is morning. The steam float and numerous :engines ,weTe: brought up. It O.ivears . that the ' heavy rain of last night had 'penetrated a parts ef ;the building!' , : where Some bags'of unslaked Erne-were deposited; and they ignited; but the fire ~w as soon ex - n-• gniShed. ELLCTION OF MAYOR. Conx, Nov. 28. Sir John Arnett has this clay been re-elected, unanimously-by the Liberal ipordion of the Town Council of :Cork, as Mayor for the ensuing year. The fgllowing appeared in a portion of cnr im pression of yerterday : INDIA AND 'CHINA. The Calcutta and China mails reached London yesterday. ' CHINA. The ad-Aces by the overland mail, which-4611 be delivered this morning, are ercrm Hong - Xong to October=l-3th. The London mail, of the .26th August, arrived there on the•fth. Our relations with the Chinese, at the various ports, continued as before, and there had been no fresh disturbancei at Shanghai, -but 'foreigners could no longer go into the country witlrsiAty as heretofore. • His Excellency the Hon. ;Frederick` Bruce re mained at Shanghai. Admiral Hope had recovered from his .wounds, and was on 'hoard the Chesa peake, at Horg Kong. The United -States Minister is at Japan, bat it is not at all likely that this breach Of faith will elicit 'n - Lything, beyond : :a vapid protest or remonstrance. The China,Corerland Trade Report says, it is certain that the Chinese so 'far repudiate T the United States ratified treaty as to refuse ploint blank to alltw it to 'come intc force until-the British treaty .is arranged. COMAIERGIAL. At. Kong Rang, Oct. 13th, import ,mark-A generally dull, but a good .demand had, • arisen for grey shirtings: The news from the different markets is not important. 'The Hong Kong markets are described as being,active. At Amoy., Oct. Bth, some moderate settlements in tea had taken place. At Foo-cLoo4oc, to October 6tl , a fair business had been doing -in tea. Arrivals large ; stocks ad accumulated, and dealers showed an inclina -tion to reduce terms. Demand lied run on the good common andracclium kinds, the lower descrip ti.ons being quite neglected. .Prieesshow a decline' of sit teals on Coggous, 2 teals on Souchongs, and 2 to 3 teals on Oolongs. kanghai advieetz.,•to October ab,.state that a brisk trade had been doing, and was likely to continue. Woollens continued in demand, and prices looking down. Silks had rather a down ward;tendeucsy, stock:being heavy. Exports of tea from China to Great Britain, , 21,800,000 lbs., against 6,700,000 lbs. ,last year. The exports to the United States show an increase of nearly .6,000,000 lbs. ;for the present season. The Jestie Beazley sailed from Hong Jong, for Liverpool, October 8. • INDIA. The Calcutta Overland Nail, which arrived yesterday, is to October 22. The reported death of. Nana. Sahib was not believed. . Acpording to the latest accounts he was levying recruits on our frontier., The cor respondent of the limes says he had about 6,000 ruffians with him, half-armed and more than half-starved; and the Nepaulese troops were at last advancing on his rear. A• Calcutta journal estimates• the total rebel force in Nepaul at 14,500. COMMERCIAL. At• Calcutta, October 22, there was a decided improvement in the import market. A. con siderable rise of prices far grey and white goods. Yarns had also improved. Freights slightly advanced. The Emily St. Pierre, from Liverpool, arrived at Calcutta October 20th. The Japanese sailed for Liverpool the same day. JAPAN. The accounts brought by the overland mail state that the Government continues to throw all sorts of obstacles in the way of a friendly settlement according to treaty. It was reported that the Governor-General of Silieria, while at Japan with twelve ships of war, obtained a portion of the island of Saghalion for the Russian Crown. MAIL NEWS. Intelligence has been received by telegraph of the arrival, at Aden, of the Salsette (s), With the mail which left Bombay on the 12th inst., and which is due in London on the sth of next month. It is, however, to be detained in Egypt, waiting for the Australian mail. NORTHERN DAILY TIMES FRANCE. It is reported that the French Government have received permission from Naples to lay a submarine cable from Gaeta, near that city, to Corsica. It is said to be in contemplation, says the .31 - ortiteur du Calooda,s, to es. ablish a direct service of steamers between Ireland and France. kn Irish company would, report says, undertake the line. Some indecision is as yet felt between making Havre or Cherbourg the starting point ; but, as the latter is nearer to Ireland, it is thought to have a better chance of being selected. THE CONGRESS. The Times says the objections to an attitude of. absolute isolation on the part of. England slightly preponderate over• those in favour of England joining the Congress. NORTH AMERICAN POSTAL ARIZANGE- •• MENTS. ,The steamer to leave Liverpool on the 30th instant, Will call at Queenstown on the following dty, and henceforth every Canadian steamer will make Queenstown a port of call, both on the out ward and homeward voyages. The Daily Nezps contains an account of the. negociations which have led to this arrangement. Last night 'here was a !narked change for the better in the behaviour of the congregation at the evening service in the elvoreh of St'. George's in-the-East. LOCAL INTELLIGENCE A good Playing Card for ls. 6d. Sold by .Mawdsley and Son, 4, Castle-street d 22 . The qudson's Bay Seal Skin Cleaks and Jackets, One Gninea each, at the New Shawl and MantleVare ' house, 40, Bold-street.—Shellard and Hodgson, Pro prietors. FAn'AL Amnia - sr.—John Gillon, of 17, Heaton street, was seriously injured in Love4ane, on Thursday la:t, and died yesterday. - INSPECTOR OP TtLE Rivrn.—Edward Morgan, Esq., of Liverpool, has been appointed inspector of 'the river Eit , this port. He has previously served here for many years, and was then much respected.—J-Rll-)1.1' v. - .e)%iser• A MAN LEANGIING lIIMSELF.--•-011 Saturday morn ng, Hewitt, publican, of 34, Collingwood 'street, was fonid by his wife suspendedhy the neck `from the bedpost. No reason has as yet been assigned `for the commission of such a oked ; an inquest, how ever :will be held to-day. FATAL ACCERENT.—On Saturday night, as Williarri Woolcroft, of 33, Iliad-street, was proceeding from I Jubilee-street -to his oWn house, he fill into a deep ; quarry on theeast side of St. Domingo-lane, in Evertor, and was so severely injured that 'he expired a few moments after reaching the ( bottom. The son of, the , poor man was with him at the time of the accident, and it appears he had walked across .the ilelds in order to obtain a nearer way home than that hy the road, when he fell inte:the quarry in -question and was killed: BODY WASHED ASHORE,—The hody, of a female, supposed to be that of Mrs. Foster, has been washed ashore at Portaferry, county Down, Ireland, much muti lated. There is very little clothing on the body, except a pair of -stays' and part of a stoeking, both of which appear tehave been of a highly respettable order. .Upon the stocking the name, "- - S. A. Foster," written 'with marking:ink, is quite visible. The 'body has been taken charge , ef.by William Greer, Esq.,: justice of the peace, Portaferry, until the arrival of some a the friends of the deceased. LIVERPOOL ROYAL rivinamAny:—Lßeturn for week ending 26th November, 1859 :—Admitted: In-patients, 34 ; outpatients, 20 ; 'surgical casualties, 24. Dis-, charged :, Cured, 17 . ; relieved, and at ewn request, 11,; made , ont-patients, 4; irregular, 1 ; (lead, 3; remain in the hea. -, se, 164. Visitors for the :.ensuing week::-' Clap t.a.LA Timm..., Du [Attic, tivlin. 01 virpes, Eaq. Fllyaiuittti. Dr. human. Surgeon : Mr. Long. House Surgeon: Mr. T.'S. Walker. Junior House - Surgeon: Mr. J. Allen. Chaplain : Rev. Edward Pool. Robert Hut chison, Treasurer. Ls noel DlsrENsinrzs.--Nuraber of patients during the past week :—New cases received advice and medicine 4, - A the institution: Northern, 260 ; Southern, 153 : total, 413. New cases visited attheir own houses and supplied with medicine Northern, 88; Southern, 69 : totd, 157. Total for .the week, 570. Rev. Rector Campbell, A.M., president. Captain Bourne, vice-presi- - dent of-North Dispensary. Mr. Charles Booth, vice: presiclentkof South Dispensary. Mr.-Fmncis ,Mill, trea surer. Mr. F. H. Langley, secretary. Office:.Leith2 offices, Moorfields. Pna.Yuns AND HYMNS ,POR THE t€E OF SUNDAY' Senoors.—We haie been shown a specimen copy of a little ;collection of this kind, - prepared (by the. Rev. T. Major Lester, the Incumbent of St. Miry's; Kirkdole, " with .a view of supplying a. want felt an some Sunday, schools, of a simple ,form .of service, and of hymns, Specially adapted for children." The price is to be extremely low, provided the sale of a large number can be secured. The lellowint , patents ,(amwagst othear) passed the great seal ‘during the week ending INTO' ember 25th, 1859 N. Leach and T. W. Willett=improvc ments in the' manufacture of: tinplates, arid tame or leaded plates,' and in the apparatus -connected there with ; G. Davies—atmospheriegapparatus for the sub matine transport- of blocks of -stone, --and for raising sunken vessels; G. F. Chantrell—improvements in the construction Of -eharcoal kilns, aid in the manufacture of coolers for Aiarcoal kilns; C-. Hadfield—improve ments in the mode of, and apparatus for, forming casks or barrels; A. Peurice--improvenamts in the construc tion of ships and vessels ; R. A. GLass—improvements in the submarine electric telegraph cables ; H. N. Peurice—improvements in machinery for , propelling vessels; D. Stewart—improvements in .presses ised for pressing goods. ;Communicated from the Patent Offices, 4, Clayton-square, =Liverpool • THE APPROACHING SOIREE TO :MESSRS. COBDEN ..AND BRlGHT.—A.pricate meeting of the committee of -the Liverpool Financial Reform Association was held yesterday, at the .Common-hall, Hadthi's-hey. The meeting was called for the purpose of making arrange ments for the approaching Liberal demonstration, .but as,it was a private one, we cannot, of course, give A full report of the proceedings. One. circumstance,, however, whieh transpired may ,be interesting, to our readers to know—namely, that as is not improbable that Mr. Cobden, by reason of his recent illness will be prevented from attending' the demonstration on Thursday next, it is understood that Mr. Bright is. preparing one of the most doquent and impressive .speeches he has yet de livered, in order, it is said, in some degree to compensate for Mr. C.obden'S absence. ALLEeD DANGEROUS STATE OF ST. GEORGE'S CHURCH. —For some time' past, the public must haVe observed certain preparations going on about this build ing,: indicative of something more than ordinary, in regard to the structure., It was stated in fact that the sacred edifice was in very great danger, and on more than one occasion a rumour prevailed that it was actually falling, and crow& collected in the locality to look at it. The shopkeepers and others in the neighbourhood were put into a state of anxiety, and one or two left their shops, and have gone to carry on business in some other places. Although there was no real ground for appre hending immediate danger, the rumours were not with out some foundation. In order, however, to set all apprehension at rest, the following facts may' be relied on. The building, which is considered a very handsome ecclesiastical edifice, was erected by the Corporation on the site of the Old Castle of Liverpool, and it appears the body was erected on piles, and lately the spire was observed out of the perpendienlar. For' some days past, workmen have been busily engaged erecting scaffolding up the outside of the steeple. This has been an operation of great difficulty and labour, and is pro ceeded with very cautiously by Mr. Wells. At present there seems little doubt that the- greater part of the spire, if not all, will have to be taken down. This will prove a work also of difficulty, as it is of solid masonry. The scaffolding is now complete to the top of the spire, and this day, or to-morrow, perhaps, ; operations of some sort in connexion with the scaffolding will commence. The spire of the church is about 230 feet high, springing from, a handsome tower ; and there seems no reason to doubt that the late heavy storms may have had consider able influence on the steeple, consequent on the in different, if iot bad, foundation of that portion ,of the building. ' THE ENGLAND OF FIELDING'S NOVELS. Mr. M'Carthy's second lecture was delivered, last night, on the above subject; in the hall of the Royal Institution. The attendance was much more numerous than on the occasion of his first lecture; and, we feel sure, that Mr. M'Carthy only requires to be more generally known to the public of Liverpool in order to draw crowded- audi ences. The lecture last night was one which fully sus tained the high estimation in which the lecturer has been held by the literary circles of this town. Mr. M'Carthy commenced his discourse by contrasting some of Fielding's heroes withthose of Dickens and Thackeray. He then proceeded with an analysis of the former, and thus exhibited an instructive, though somewhat unpleas ing and very uncomplimentary picture of the state of society in those days. The lecturer gave a 'highly inte resting sketch of the progress which society has since made in education, morality, and Christianity. The religious bigotry, which Was so characteristic of the period, was pointed out in the most eloquent and forcible manlier ; and the other fashionable vices of the age;. for which Fielding wrote, received a similarly able analysis from the cultured and sedulously-industrious, as well as intelligent, lecturer. Mr. M'Carthy will deliver - one more lecture; it is to be on the character and genius of Goethe, to-morrow (Wednesday). EVERTON COMPANIES OF TUE LIVERPOOL VOLUN TEER ARTILLERY AND RIFLE BRIGADE.—The meet= ing of those who support the volunteer movement in Everton is to take place to-morrow (Wednesday), to be held under the presidency of his Worship the Mayor, Thomas Darnley Anderson, Esq. This meeting prormses to be one of unusual interest. Numerous applications for the admission of ladies have been met by the com mittee in the most gallant and liberal spirit. This is as it ought to be, for wo all sympathise with the poet in his exclamation— Without the smile ,from partial beauty won What were this life—a world - without a sun 4 Prom the preparations which have been made, and the promises which have been given, the scene on the occasion will. unquestionably be an interesting and delightful one, To render the whole more im pressive, it is hoped that a guard of honour of the enrolled rifles ' headed by their spirit-stirring band, will give additional attraction, if any should be needed, to the- inauguration of these district companies, who now rank high in the brigade, and who, we doubt not, will .do honour to the ward in which they reside. We may add, that an excellent drilling-place has been appointed for them in one of 'the large School4obrus connected with the Collegiate Institution," in which they will conn mence drill on Wednesday week; Sand to-morrow even ing the enrolled men will assemble at the saine place for the put'pose of appointing the officers for the first company. LITEIIAICT AND PHILOSOPHICAL SociwrH.—The usual fortnightly meeting of the society was'held last night at the Royal Institution,. Colquitt-street ; the Rev. H. H. HigginS, 'president; . occupied- the chair. The minutes of the previous meeting having been read, Messrs. J. H. Mitchentr and Thomas DObson, ,B.A, applied for mem bership, and Mr. James Aiikin was elected a member of the snciety. Professor Archer, of queen's College, then read the paper of the evening, -4 ' On. the economic products of the Quadrumana." The paper showed a great amount of research, and a thorough knowledge of the , subject.. As he went along, the learned gentleman described the more prominent Characteristic of the varinus species of monkeys, and the use made of them by the natives of the countries in which they abounded—in neatly all they are used as an .article of food, and in many considered a great delicacy, The skins of some species are very valuable for the fur, and the little `black muffs now in fashion are - composed of monkey's hair. At the conclusion' of the-paper, a short.discussion 'ensued, and the thanks of the meeting were awarded to 'the author. • LIVERPOOL AND NEW ZEALAND.—SAILING OP THE BLUE JACKET. — The trade between Liverpool and New 'Zealand, under the auspices of Messrs. H. T. Wilson .'and' Chambers, crwners of the •celebrated " White •Star" `fleet of Australian clippers, -is now, we are glad tc, "learn, assuming-something like the importance which it deserves. The •extensive resources of this hrm render it an easy matter for them duly and fully to undertake and to develop such a trade ; and for the sake of the " good old town" and its trade we are glafi to learn that the traffic betweenliverpool and New Zealand is both prosperous and promising. On Saturday last, the gentle men nameddespat :died their magnificent and. commodious White Star clipper Blue Jacket, Captain Clarke, for Auckland. This very fine—indeed, 'favourite--ship took out 250 pazoongoro. 'The saloon, or first cabin, was completely filled ; and the class of passengers gene rally were of a superior order to those to be found in emigrant ships, except on extTaorclinary occasions. Nearly all of them were men of capital, going out to settle on the fertile lands to be met with so profusely in the province of Auckland,.and not a few wore old colonists, who having been in this country on a n isit, were returning for final settlement in -the land of their adoption. Their selection. of the. Blue Jacket as their means of conveyance, is of itself one of - 4the: highest cqmpliments which could be paid. to a shiP, ' their - experience in respect to such long voyages- must have furnished them with ample opportunities.tforjudging of the comforts to be expected on board of such a- ship. It shows, conclusively, that the established renown of :the " White Star" clippers is as fully recognised in 41.1 - Australasian Colonies, as the charaeter of the firm is known and appreCiated in Europe. CHURCH DEFENCE ASSOCIATION. . , Last night, 11 meeting was held in the-school-room of Holy Trinity Church, Walton-Breck, for the purpose of c , ommunicatint information on the sukicet of Church -rates, " and on the present- attempt to deprive the poor of the rights which they have posseksecl for centuries." The Rev. H. Lomas, IncuMbent, presided;;' and amongst those present , Were—The Rev. Dr. .Hume, the. Rev. Thomas Moore, the Rev. John Stewart, and Messrs. Fred. Harris, ,Esq., churchwarden; W. Tristram, Esq., Samuel Leech, .Esq., J; W. ? Barrett, Esq., A. Jones, &c., Scc. The CIiAIRMAN said,--Mrfriends, -all of you are possibly aware that I have a peculiar aversion, as a general rule, tothose, subjects which entail controversy. That may be one reason why the attendance to-night is not So large as we could desire; ;but there.are, times in which, notwithstamding our natural predilections, it perhaps becomes our duty to raise-our voice -even if it be in 60W-defence. We are assemblerl together to-night to cousider;the question of Church-rates, which has been of late yearsdiscussed taa great extent in the country. Those who oppose Church,retes have been very loud in the ex pression of their opposition, and consequently an impres sion seeinsto have gone forth that they constitute a majo rity of the _people of this country; and many . .of the argu ments which they have brought forward in opposition to the Church-rates have such an appearance of plau sibility about them that doubtless the minds of those who are not very well infcrmed upon the subject have become to some extent prejudiced. _Accordingly we have almost suffered -judgment to go against us by default. We ,have allowed our opponents to have their say while we ourselves have beep silent. The time has, however, arrived, and probably it would have been far better for us if we had anticipated the necessity, when we must either speak out on the matter or lose that which has been the inheritance of the Church from time immemorial. I am not one of those who would persist in levyisig a rate oppressive to the consciences—l would almost say to the tastes and feelings—of men, if in justice it could be avoided without such an imposition ; and therefore, for myieif, I would -say that I would greatly prefer some compro mise, by which a fair compensation might be secured .to the Church, than the me of the resent system, which it appe ars to must necessitate frequent colli sions "between Church people and Dissenters, which in My opinion are for better avoided. But I think, from the remarks which will be addressed to you this evening by gentlemen who win succeed me, that you will be'conyinced we have a right to compensation, that we: are willing tq surrender that plan, of collecting Church-rates which has existed for so.many centuries— that we ought to be met in a spirit of conciliation on the other side—and that, at all events, a frank and willing assent should be giver by Dissenters to some substitute for Church-rates, either collected from time to time or in th e s h ape o f o ne large sum to be given as compensation at once. I thought it was necessary to express my own views this evening, that you might be in possessio n o f th em . I believe our duty will be to induce you and o ther members of the congregation who are absent to agree to the drawing up and signing of a Petition to the House of Commons against abolition of ChUrch-rates without some fair and suitable equiva lent being provided; and I believe Dr. Hume, who will address you, is ready to give you some account of a Church Defence Association which has recently origi nated in the town, and which I do hope will be the means, at all events on this question, and possibly, on future occasions, affecting the interests of our Church, of defending us from those attacks which are made upon i t be l tivnededro , u st p ot u d t us hat g I r v a e t l a i r t o o u h s e l r y e fro min Let. attitude. a not at all assume' the aggressive attitude in this move= meat ; on the contrary, we merely defend ourselves from attacks from without. Arid I trust that, by God's bles sing, this source of property, which has belonged to the Church during so many generations, will be pre,served to it. (Applause.) The Rev. J. STEWART, the rector of West Derby, next addressed the meeting. He said he felt the clergy men of the Church of England were called npon to de-. fend their Church against what they conceived to be an aggressive and very unjust movement on the part of some of those who differed from them. He felt this to be an occasion which involved very important interests. He would ground his objeCtion to giving up this method of supporting the fabrics . and the necessary services of the Church of England Upon the fact that if it were not so, great difficulty would be found in either maintaining the fabries'of the churches in a due state of repair, or in providing that which. is necessary to the decent conduct of the ordinary services. In rural and poor districts it would be very difficult. He considered that the great plea, setting aside the claims which they had as a matter of property—the great greund upon which they ought to object to the removal of this right of rate, . was the fact that by. means . of it the whole of .England Was por tioned out into . parochial districts, having their Church, which was intended to be the church Of the whole of the parishioners, and:that where the duties which belonged to the lay officers of the chairch were adequately fulfilled, in that place every parishioner had the right and the opportunity .of attending Divine service, and receiving those instruc tions which they hoped would be useful for eternity to them. It appeared to him very plain that there was not any injustice in 'the levying of these assessments; for thi4 reason : -that these rates had existed from the very earliest period---from dates prior to any dates we had of any rates whatever. However old any one's tido to property, it would be found that that property had resting upon it the necessity to provide for the mainten ance of the Church. (Hear, hear.) • The Rev. Dr. HUME, who was received with consi derable applause, said that the meeting had been called in connection with the Liverpool Church Defence Asso-.. dation. Sorry he was that there should be the sity for . such an association, but it was called into existence under the following circumstances :—Qn the sth of Septeinbea he read a paper beforethe Clerical Society; and a 'resolution ins moved, and carried 'unanimously, .then and there, that a society be formed in-Liverpool, for the purpose 'of defending the Church; pritnarily on the subject of Church-rates. They had had several meetings since; the had taken a formal position; and .were about to address the whole o f this district on the sub ject, and to draw out an expression' of their 'opinion. The rev. doctor then detailed, the cireumstances under Which le . had prepared his . coloured map, dividing the town into ecclesiastical ancl,aural districts ; and stated that when he published his pamphlet on the cOnditipn of Liverpool,. be was induced by Mr. W. Gregton to ' add a "chapter 'pointing Out the peculiar ' posi tion held by the National Church. He 'shelved that the Church occupied a two-fold position. She. was ministerial to all those who attended _ her ordinances and worshipped within her temples; and she was missionary to those who were cared for by nobody else. She carried the Gospel by her ministers to the cottages of the poor; and the law of the laud enacted that every man who had the care of souls must, within a 'certain district, carry the consolations of religion to everybody who den - landed them. The minister of a dissenting or Roman Catholic chapel might, or might not, perform those duties. The National Church must do so ; and therein consisted one of the important pro wisions of an established church. (Hear, hear.) Pernait him now to go further back, and to tell them two or three little facts that formed the key to' some of their peculiar system. In very alol times, there were,in this country of course dioceses, each diocese correspondirg in some degree to the old principality of the country. To what did these belong ? They would be amazed when he told them that the very spot he was now standing on belonged to the diocese of Lichfield, which com prehended the counties of Derby, Stafford, and a con siderable section of Shropshire. It comprehended then Lancashire, and Cheshire as well._ ,At a, certain time off Lancashire and Cheshire were cut o and formed into the diocese 'of Chester. Still more lately they had cut off the diocese of Manchester. By and by another Change would be necessary, and they would have' to create a diocese of Liverpool, perhaps joining with it the Isle of Man. That, however, was in the future: However, having diocesan churches and cathedrals was a small provision ; and the landlords of the country, who where universally the -great men of the country—what did they do ? Each landlord said--- , " I cut off the tenth of my income for the support of the Church, on my estate ; and I will build a church here for the use of my tenantry." The estate therefore became a pariih. 'The landlord was 'himself the builder of the church: and the one-tenth of his income cut off, called by the name of tithes, conatitutedthe income of the clergyman. As a matter of course,.-there ware large parishes and :small parishea;- and , thus they had the formation of parishes, and thus they . had a certain amount of union between th e Ch urc h and thc.,‘ State. The Church blessed the State, and the poor and the rich, the . peer and the peasant, mingled together in her services, almost as common as their dust mingle s . together, in the narrew house appointed for all Then, again, the landlord•said—" Since I have built this church, and since I actually pay the salary Of the' clergy man, I and my sons 'and my children after me will select the minister from among good and proper men." Hence arose Church patronage. Then how dicl the , inbjeCt Of Church-rates arise? Thus :.• whenever: a present was made, especially to a large community, they were ex-' eected to maintain it in order and condition; The arl of Derby gave to the town of Liverpool a beautiful selection of' natural history; which was known as the Derby Museum, and in, the act of Parliament which was passed there was one , important condition; that in all time the , museum-rate levied in Liverpool should support that museum in perfect order and condition. Nothing was more just and equitable. They got a free donation of admirable property, and they were asked simply to keep it order for their own sakes. Take another instance: Their friend and neighbour Mr. William Brown, after' years full of honour among us," offered to devote a portion of his property to give a casket that would Roil tain the jewel of Lord Derby, and other jewels besides. He said :—" I will build a house, that shall be your free library and museum in all time, and you, the com munity of Liverpool, undertake that, for the benefit of the people, you shall keep the museum in perfect order, for their sakes to all time." "We agree to it," said the Corporation, " and render you a thousand thanks be4ides; and you shall have your statue sculptured in the'best marble." All this was 'right, and the smallest return they could make for that donation. Well, then, ' the landlords said at the time they gave the Chutch to their tenantry—" Now, good .people, will you agree to a tax being . laid upon your land here by whaah thi s shall be kept rn perfect repair for yourselves ; that' 'you and your children's children may all have the right to claim' sepulchre in the churchyarde--to claim every cede- , siastical ordinance within the body of the . church ;:that you may claim baptism for your children, marriage for others, and that your sick may be visited." "We are willing to do all this," said the people, and it became, therefore, the law of England. Why, the House of Commons itself *as betas yesterday in comparison with Church-rates. • So lost in the mists of antiquity was the -subject of the first levying of Church-rates that no man could tell the date of its birth. (Hear ' hear.) But 'here was a distinction that 'ought to be drawn. u d t ut t y h . ere T w h e o r y e etial it Many a thing was legal, and equitable at the same tithe; diffi many a thing was equitable that was not legal. Many a thing was right in theory that could be shifted 'in practice.. Now, nothing wax more true than . wha t Mr. Stewart had told them — that it wa s a ri g ht, an d it was a privilege, but it was also a duty ,of every pari s h tsi m a i ntain the fabric of its parish church in Order,' a n d t o religions ayof o en rd fo in ro a i ne ng es knew there were certain people who tried to e va d e;equ i ta bl e in responsibilities by technicalities of l aw . Th ose ' w h o . maintain a i its th e w differed froni' the Chureli on this question were anxious to take adYantage of the deficiencies of the la* to evade a responsibility. It had' ustly been said, that laws were not made for men of honour; but we must, nevertheless, take the world as we found it, Dr. Hume went on to trace the, division of Liverpool from the . parish of Walton and its erecti on into a Separate, parish in the year a 1699. Li 1721, Liverpool had two parish diurchee, which, although then sufficient for the population, were now utterly inkffieient to the requirements of a parish population of 260,000. As to the question of rates, he would tell them that a rate of a penny in the pound raised in the.parish of Liverpool £4,000, whilst in the borough it Would raise £6,ooo'a-year. And it Was this sum of money that their opponents would cut off from them. He might say, with the beasts in the " This' nisy be sport :to you, but it is 'death tons.", (Laughter.) It might be .urged that they should , depend on a voluntary rate, Now, a voluntary rate of 5 ~ a penny in the pound in the parish of Liverpool raised only £BOO a-year, 'or nearly one-fifth of what it should do. But was that £BOO a year permanent? He believed that it was not, and that before this time three years the voluntary rate would nearly disappear, for year by year one man refused to pay, and then another refused, and so 'the rate would fall on the shoulders of the few, so that - a twopenny rate would be asked, and would be refused by nearly all men ; whilst if others paid their. share, nearly the whole would pay_ As it was the voluntary rate would ' " vanish like the baseless fabric of a vision," and leave not a farthing behind it. The fact was the people who talked so much in favour of the abolition of Church-rates, and the sub- . stitution of a voluntary rate, were like Macbeth and the witches—they kept the promise to the ear, and broke it to the hope. (Applause.) But they were asked by 'their opponents if they were aware that all large_ towns had refused Church-rates. Now that was true,„ but it .was at the same time an audacious falsehood. , Had Liverpool ever declared that it refused to p a y Church-rates ? Never. It had refused a Church-rate,, but it had never spoken on the • principle. He would prove it. There were 46,000 assessments on the poor-. , rates in the parish of Liverpool,. but allowing for cottage property the rates upon which were paid by the owßers, 50 per cent., the voters who should come forward to. vote on the Church-rate question was 23,000. But a man with a large amount of property had three and perhaps four votes, and thus the 23,000 voters would have . 35,000 votes. Now in 1854, when a Church-rate was refused in Liverpool, only 1,574 persons voted against it, and 1,037 in • favour ; so that more than 20,000 people never voted at all, and nearly 30,000 votes were not called into operation at all. The common sense of the matter was that the Church-rate law .should be amended, and then the whole thing would bonnie equitable as well as legal. A calculation had been made by Mr. Horace Mann, the statistician who had compiled the ecclesiastical census, and it appeared from this that 42 per cent. of the whole of England and Wales worshipped in the churches of the .Established Church. There r'wershipped in Protestant Dissenting chapels 29 per cent. of all the people in England and Wales, and 31 per cent. worshipped ira. Roman Catholic churches. These figures gave 33 per cent., or one-third of the, people who were Protestant -.Dissenters and' Roman Catholics. Of the wholb of the :people in England and . Wales, 25 per cent., ,or one fourth, worshipped nowhere. The Established Church • of . the country took charge of •these; and was Tespon-- • . sible for them. It thus appeared that 42 attended our churches, and 25 niore had the Gospel carried to their own . homes, • making 67 per cent., or two-thirds of the people under the care of the Estab.- lished Church. Mr. Bright, in his speech at'Birminghani, in October, 1858, , said not one-third of the people - belonged to the Church of England. He (the speaker) would not characterise the statement ; for if he did he would ,apply to it a Saxon word that was short and expressive, and grated on the ear of a gentleman. There was only one word that would apply to such a statement. Mr. Hadfield, repeated' the statement in the House of CoMmons; and although made there, he must say that it wasuntrue . in the thought; untrue in the utterance„, Untrue in the reception, untrue in Tint or orally, when ever it came. • ; Now our English population was , becoming very, rapidly a town population, and our' town population was very rapidly beComing a hea.- then population. Of 17,000,,00,0- of people, in England 9,000,000 belonged to towns or 10,000 people and up wards, and 8,000,000 belonged to smaller towns and' rural districts.. , Probably, before the end of the century three-fourths of our population would live iri great towns.. Now, what was the condition of our great towns ? It was positively appalling. In Southwark 68 per cent. • attended no place of worship .whatever. In other towns , 611, 63, and so. on appeared. If .they took the whole of the beautiful county of Surrey there were sixty-three people in every hundred that never darkened' the door of the House of God. In Liverpool about forty .in every hundred .of the people did not attend • any place of worship ; in Manchester .513, and Oldham about 60 in every hundred. This was an appalling state of things; and if Church-rates for the maintenance • of the fabric and of the. ordinances of religion and keep ing open the Church for the poor, were requited in rural districts, how much more were they necessary in our large towns ? He would say a hundred-fold more so.. The Rev. Doctor then handed down for inspection a map showing the analyses of the population in all the great towns in England and Wales. He concluded by saying that Church-rates were a great necessity with uS, I and though it was very right to consider. the con /scientious objections of everybody, and thoughwe should not insist too much upon law when the cumin-. stances of the time had altered, it was only right that, if £300,000 a-year were taken away from the Church,. they should have a fair and equitable compensation given; them. The proposal was in itself so fair and moderate, that no reasonable, man would object to it. (Loud ap plause.) The Rev. Thos. MooRE, in, addressing the meet ing, :said that, in defending Church-rates, they only defended endowments for • all religious purposes ; so. - that, in, fact, this e was a question of spoliation-. with which 'the) were concerned at that moment.. As an instance of the interest which the Church of. England. took inther welfare of the nation., he might mention that it educated 80 per cent. of the whole gf the people who were educated-. in the 'country, leaving only 20 per 'cent. for the whole of the other aenomina tions.• And. then, as an -example 'of what voluntaryism would do, there was the fact, that £9,000 a year was all. that this kingdom could produce on the voluntary princi ple for the education of, the people. They would se e from that what would' be the state of our masses if education were left to mere voluntary effort The voluntary system always failed where it was most needed ; and, although in the district in which they now , stood it might be, successful, it would fail in the yoor district in which Dr. Hume had to labour. As: they valued. all 'the privileges - which Englishmen possessed, they should keep in existence this, system,, which was necessary for the poor man if not for the. rich'; which robbed no man, but 'rather was a friend to whole community ; and which the landed proprietors,. did not wish to part with. He kad no doubt a very slight amount of agitation on the part of the Church of. England would turn this subject, for the majority was getting less as the matter was more thoroughly under stood. The rev, gentleman gentlemen t m tlhe o e i r i ne ng bNiei t ilng h o e , adoption of a petition, praying that in any measure for the abolition of Church-rates compensation might be whichgiven . The to thewas s A pu tu E tm s t4 t o a N b t l Established havinge meeting Church.thankedan Mr. HARRIS, churchwarden, seconded the motion,. only one dissentient. • • had addressed the meeting, said that-they ought to raise their voice to prove to the country that there were two opinions upon this matter, and that their own for the legality of the claim was quite as strong as that of others for its inexpediency. The audience then proceeded to sign the petition;. and the benediction having been pronounced, the meet ing separated. _ - To MOTIIIIRS AND NURSEi.—To supersede the tardy use of t ßre eo h ce e lretl i t. l e ,y i n. tooth alnBts e e do6n: interdicted tee advertisert d u e u d r s nursery, fora wife, :o nwa e b s r thee ount ii nn 'h s a ce i or r nt and isneg: L sk o i t n io , n pr ( e pe ee r i f ti m ne ed a j rie sd na . l , e 6 e d lie ., , a o n b d tku is mt ., C; a r t ee th e e sl A 'a n tc ti n .N t .e A rmin nti-N o 'e ffi rM e l e n: 49, Browidow-hill. ALIVERTISINO FOR ItirvEs.- The police authorities of advertisements for wives, on the ground that such things were a profanation of the sanctity of marriage. A man euence of the prohibition - ne- newspaper would accept the advertisement. 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