Northern Times. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-08-06 00:00:00

TOWN COUNCIL. The monthly meeting of the Council was held at eleven o'clock yesterdly, in the New Concert-room, S. George's hall. The Mayor, FRANCIS SHAND. Ecq., prezided. The minutes of the last Council meeting having been lead, Mr WOIDRUFF said, as there probably would be an adjournment of the Council at a very early hour, he should, if it was not out of order, like to ask whether the Mayor, as the chairmen of the Parliamentary Committee, was prepared to make any report regarding the proceedings in London ? If it was out of order, he would not press the 'abject. The MAYOR : I believe it is quite out of order. There is a telegraphic message, just received from one of the "members of the Council, recommending very strongly that no debate upon the subject be entered into at the present moment. ThR telegraphic communication was then handed to Ifir Woodruff, who, having read it, said, " V.3ry well, sir, I shall not press the quostion." (Hear, hear.) VACANCY TN RODNRY-STREET WARD. The DEPUTY Towel-CLERK declared, according to the usual form, that a vacancy has taken place in Rodney street Ware, in consequence of the disqua ification of Mr. Thomas Fleming. The usual resolution was accordingly drawn up, declaring the seat void. Mr BRANCREEt said : Before that resolution is confirmed, I think, as one of the colleagues of Mr. Fleming, I should not be discharging the duty which I owe to the Council, the public, and that gentleman himself, if I were not to take this occasion cf expressing the regret which I feel at the nnfo:tunate circumstances which have occa sioned this vaea , cy. I hye not had many opportunities of jtriging of the mole in which Mr. Fleming discharged his duties in his capacity of a member of committee; but still I have every reason to suppose, from the information I have received, that be discharged them satisfactorily. 'There is, however, one subject upon which I am perfectly competent to speak, and to which I wish especially to refer. it shows qualities which adorn a man more than any punctual discharge of &Wes. The Council may perhaps recollect that some three years since, in consequence of a very severe winter, it became necessary to have a collection in the different wards for the relief of ihe poor. I wish to bear my testimony to the invaluable services of Mr. Fleming on that occasion in the Rodney-street ward. Mr. Fleming was the treasurer of the ward. He gave up his time con stantly to the duties. He kept the accounts, and he kept them in so excellent a manner that owing to his econo mical raanagemenr, that we not only relieved all who called for relief, but at the same time to hind over, in case such cirnrilS'aeces might again arise, a considerable sum of money. I wish to bear that testimony of res pect, and at the same time to testify my own personal regret for Mr Flemings loss (Hear, hear.) Mr. TOBIN : There 'is no one here who will not admit the valuable qualifications which Mr. Fleming possessed for being a member of this Council All who sat with him in this Council and on the ommittees, will bear wit ness that there was no member of this Council who dig charged the duties of his office with greater assiduity, and with a more fearless and independent spirit. I can also testify that no one was more open to the calls of charity, or more generously responded to them. lam quite sure that in the misfortune which has fallen upon him, he will have the sympathy, not only cf every member of this Council, but of the community of Liverpool at large. (Hear, hear.) Mr. PICTON said that he might be perm;tted to say a few words on the subject, having had as much to do with Mr. Fleming as any gentleman in the room. Mr: Fleming, was vice-chairman of the Library and Museum Committee, of which he (Mr. Piston) had the honour to be chairman, and he might say that it was to the attention, assiduity, and the deep interest which Mr. Fleming took in the wel fare of the institut;on, to vay large measure of its success was owing. His keowle:lge of all matters relative to the insti ution was very great, and ha (:fir. Picton) did not know, in fact, how they would b 3 able to supply his place. His courtesy of demeanour and gent' -manly feeling con stituted him an agreeable associate in the conduct of public business, and he (Mr. Picton) most deeply regretted the circumstances which led to Mr. Fleming's retirement. (Hear, bear.) The MaYOR observed that such an occurrence was at all times a matter of deep reg,et to the Council, bat, as was evidenced by the remarks of the several members who had spoken, it was particularly so in the case of Mr. Fleming. (Hear, heir.) FINANCE COMMITTE E. The proceedings of this committee contained the following recommendations :—" To appoint Mr. Robert D. Kay Inward Cashier at the Town Dues Office, at the salary of £2OO per annum, in the room of Mr. Daniel Brade, deceased, whose salary was £250 per annum." "To grant a salary of 400 per annum to John Lightburn, as Cppyiro. Clerk in the Magistrates' Clarks' (Mies " "To appoint Mr. George Jones as Outward Book-keeper at the Town Dues effi !A at the selary of 30s. per week, in -the place of Mc. R. D Kay, whose salary was £125 per annum." That the discretion given bv, and contained in the A.'t of ' 7 Wm. IV., and 1 Vic , c. 19,' should at the next Sessions be exercised by the Recorder. Mr. Huou Heuese moved the appointment of Mr. Kay. Mr. Alderman Hotein seconded the motion. Mr A. C. STEW tRT s.ai.l ha had heard, that four years ago Mr. Kay was inward computer, and was removed on account of incapacity. He bAieved it was a rule laid down that unless there was some good reason to the con trary, the cler:,s should be promoted according to seniority. He believed Mr. Burgess, the junior cashier, was a very competent man, but Mr. Kay was ,taken from the lower station and placed (a er his head. Ho Lelieval Mr. Kay was the oldest servant, but at the same time he had been found incapable for a subordinate situation four years azo. He was also told that since the death of Mr. Brarle, Mr. Kay had been performing the duties, and that already several mistakes bad been made. He therefore moved that the subject be referred back for further consieeraticn. [During the reedit g of the proceedirg4, his Worship, the Mayor, left the chair, for the purpose of wailing upon her Majesty the Queen of the Netherlands. The chair was taken in his ab:once by Mc. Alderman Parker.] The Comex:tie se a member of the Tcwn Dues' Com mittee, thought Mr Stewart ought to be a little mere cor rect as to his fat's, which ware all hearsay. The whale subject had been fully considered by, the coremit , ee with the Receiver of Town Dues. Mr. Stewart was quite wrong in many of his points. Mr. B. CKWI trt sec on d e d M r. S tewart ' s amen d ment. Mr. HORN BY said he knew nothing whatever of the indi vidual, and he believed thst no member of the committee had any interest in promo lug Mr. Kay more than any other man. It was obvious that in any department such as that of the Town Dues, it was exceedingly cesirable that the gentleman at its head should give his recommendation a. to the promotion of the clerks under him. He was most likely to know who was the beet su:ted, and his recom mend etion had been followed in the present instance. After some further conversation the amendment was lost by twenty-two to thirteen. The motion wee then confirmed. Mr HOP NEY moved that £9O salary be wanted to John Lightbourn, as set forth in the recommendation Mr. WOODRUFF inquired, how that additional appoint ment was rendered neces sar y. Mr. Stale explained that there was a treat deal of copying for the magistrates' office cone ont of doors, which had to be paid fr, and the magistrates conceive 1 that expense as well as time would be saved by the arrange ment now proposed. Afser some remarks from Mr. APerman Parker, Mr. Hodson, Mr. Kitchen, and Mc. Anderson, the rccom mendatien was confirmed. Mr. 11-ensey proposed that Mr. George Jones be appointed ou , ward book-keeper of the town dues office, at a salary of 30s. per week, in the room 4f Mr. Kay. Horate seconded the motion, which was confirmed v/ ORNBY moved the resolution empowering the Re - Mr. ti e old a second court cf quarter sessivns. He - corder to st, -essary that the Council should pass that said it was -r te ant horise the Recorder to have a resolution, in e . oense of the eecoed cou-t was about second court. The e_ _ • • 9 saving of time and expense also eighteen guiuerts ; bu-ts -9 te, t indeed Accordingly the to the podi e was ve r y e eb. . ;on that the Council would Finance Committee were do well i n g i v i ng that discretion o f op it,, 'he Recorder. mr. Alderman sceetion to 4._ -notion, which was it ma seconded the e adopted. • " the general Mr. HORNET' then moved fie - confirmation ek enything proceedings. Ha was not /tears that there' was e -f the which required particnler mates; but if .4 , 7 therm Jr ld Council wished for informaticn upon an;;: t ztject; it &et, be readily afforded. Mc. Alderman H0L313, in serondina trio motion, atid lie was sure t h e C ouncil must rej.:ic4 to - have Mr.' Here_ by again as e' airman of the Finance Cernmi4ea whose atten tion to the duties cf his offi lent., had befn always so saisfactoryce 't o an t h d o - 6 - c - un r s eiL L ' 4 'Ckes of "Hear, heir.") lair. WOODRUFF begged leave t o time since the Burial Board put a question. So. applied mittse to know whether the to the Finance C 3112. sell a portion of the N committee was prepared to what expense. As the s weham Hou.e Estate, and, if so, at their annual meeting in A B urial Board would have to hold "they should know as soonu as gu,a, it was vary important that have the land. po,.sible whether they cou/d Mr. Alderman Hor.sc said the Fina very anxious to have th e opinion of Mr.ace Committee were members who had been almost constantly Stewart and ot he/ . the Let sin weeks, upon in L ondon for pon the limey Consum e 7 Bill, There had been adjournments on two occasions in conse quence of that reason. Generally speaking, he would say that, in the abstract, there was no objection whatever to appropriating part of the estate to the purposes of a cemetery, if it should be considered advisable, and the position suitable ; but at the same time a question in volving the sale of so large an amount of land, and involving likewise the making of roads, getting access to the remainder of the land, and establishing drainage, ren dered it advisable to have Mr. Stewart and other gentle men present who could give very important information. As soon as the Mersey Conservancy Bill released some gentlemen who could give their attention to the subject, it would be one of the very first questions which would be taken into consideration by the Finance Committee. ~ Mr. HODsoir asked if the Burial Board thought the place mentioned was far enough out (. f town. MR. Area Rotate : —We can discuss that question here after. Mn. WOIDR.TFF paid the Burial Board were not pledged to that site, but it was ore amongst a number cf others which were under consideration. Me noezrersorr begged to ask whether the parliament ary committee were prepared to make any report regarding the Mersey Conservancy Bill. MR WOODRUFFR said i( Ma ROB!RTSON had been in the room at the time he would have heard that question put and answered before. MR. ROBF.P.TSN said he was not in the room at the time. They had all heard of ncg ,ciations going on in London, and they had also heard of amateur nepciators in Lon don who cemrnunicated with the newspapers, (hear, hear,) but ae regarded the majority cf the members of the Council they had 'had for the last three or four months the silent system imposed upon them. He, for one, felt extremely awkward at having his constituents constantly asking him what was bring dine, and he having continually to tell them that he knew no more about the matter than they did. (hear, hear ). Mr. Ptcros said, by the latest advices from London it appeared—and it wet the opinion of those to whose hands the Council had confided the coaduci . , of that very important business—that at present the Council would not be at all furthering the great object which they all had at heart by entering into any 'discussion upon the subject. Under these circumstances, he felt that it would be very advisable that the Council should adjourn after they had transacted whatever business was immediately necessary. He hoped, at the same time, that no basinese would be brought for ward which was likely to give rise to any difference of opinion in regard to the Conservancy Bill. (Hear.) Mr. Alderman Hoeme said a telegraphic message had been just received from London by him. It was a corfi dential one, but he hoped the. Council would have sufficient confidenee in him to ag •ee to what he was about to propose. (Hear, hear.) He would suggest that there should be no farther discEssion whatever, but if it was necessary for the Dock C !mmit:ee's proceedings to pass, let them pass, and let the C,uncil then adjourn. (Hear, hear.) The proceedings were then confirmed. DOCK COMMITTEE, On the c etclnsion of the Finance Committee's pro ceedings, and while the dock proceedings were Ming read, Mr. Alderman Holme, Mr. Charles Turner, and other lead ing members of the Council were observed in animated conversation. Mr. Alderman Holme suddenly left the circle, and in an audible tone said, " I see there's a storm brewing—l'll be no party to it." Mr. Alderman Borals then addressed the Deputy- Mayor, and said :—The reading of the Dock Committee's Proceedings will cause great incoevenience, and it is abso lutely necessary that we now adjourn. I, therefore, move that the Council now adjourn. Mr, lircawrra seconded the motion. Mr. Cu CROSS TURNER : I beg to oppose that proposition. The proceedings of the Dock Commit'ee to-day contain the nominati m and election of four members of the Council to be members of the Deck Committee, in the room of Mr. Thomas Robinson, Mr. Thomas Chil ton, Mr. Thomas Darnley Anderson, and myself, whose term of office has expired. If there is to be any opposition to the election of any of these gentlemen, it of course will prevent them from taking any part in further proceedings until the question is decided. If there is an opinion in this Council that none of these gentlemen are fit to be sent down as your representatives to the Dock Committee, the sooner that is settled the better. I think the motion that has been made by Mr. Alderman Holme is, under the circumstances, far more likely to produce an unpleasant discussion than to allay it. It is quire impossible that it can be otherwise. I myself am going our, and if there is any objection on the part of the majority of the Council to my re-election, I at once accede to it. I have endeavoured to do my duty to the best of my ability—to protect the interests of the town on the one s'de, and of the trade of the port on the other; and if there is to be any discussion on my conduct, let ns have it at once. (Hear, hear.) Mr. HORNE"( : Mr. Turner is in error, if he supposes that if we do not re-elect these four gentlemen to-day, they will (leave to have any business to perform at the Dock Committee. They are for all purposes members of the Dock Committee until their succe'sors are appointed. There is no reason whatever why these geatlemen should not continue to act until the council meets again, which is is proposed they shall do at an early day, It is exceed ingly desirable that no remarks should be made widi reference to the affairs pending in London at present, and it is therefore most desirable, in every consideration, that the Council should now adjourn. (Hear, hear.) Mr. C. Meerut,: One word if you please. If lan. to understand there is an - objection to my re-election, because there can be no other reason for the adjournment, I beg to state that until the Council meets again, I shall take no part either in the Dock Committee's proceedings or in any other proceedings If it is the opinion of the Council that I, in my individual or official capacity, have deserved that my election should be postponed, I shall con sider it a mark of censure from the majority of this Council (cries of " Hear, hear," "No, no," and confusiou)—and I certainly, for one, shall take no steps whatever until the Council has deci :ed that question. I beg to say that is the position I must teke, and I beg that the question may at once be decided, aye or no. (Confusion ) Here the uproar became very great, nearly all the members of the Council standing up and• endeavouring to obtain a hearing. Mr. A. C. Stewart : It halt been moved and seconded that the Council adjourn —why is not that put? If Mr. Turner make a personal matter of it, are we to be driven from our propriety by such a threat? (Hear, hear, and uproar Mr. Piero: I confess that I have heard, with very great astonishment, after what has been stated by Mr. Turner, Mr. hereby, and other gentlemen, that it was most desirable, on the present occasion, to avoid anything that could lead to a difference of opinion, that difference of opinion on the suseicion of one brought for ward by Mr. Turner himself. (Elea!, hear, and "no, no.") Why has Mr. Turner any reason to suspect what he has stated ? Woy should there be au apprehension that he wid be turned out? Mr C. TURNER : I have no such apprehension. Mr Alderman S. HOWIE: I must make one remark in answer to Mr. Turner. When I came into this room— The DEPUTY MAYOR : It has been moved and seconded —(Cries of "order, order," and confusion). Mr. Alderman Koeste : I merely want to make an explanation. If the question were put for the re-election of the four gentlemen, I would vote for all of them. Mr. Tours said that he should have been very glad had the Council been in the first instance at once adjourned to Saturday, bat he ceneeived there was more to be appre hended now from an adjournment than from continuing the proceedings. (Hear, hear) They were to have a meeting at oee o'clock which would be a most important one, and in which it was absolutely necessary the Chairman and other members of the Dock Committee should take part, otherwise he feared the meeting would be perfectly fruit less. Mr.. Crunroe : There must be a chairman chosen to morrow by the Dock Committee, and if Mr. Turner is not a member of the Dock Committee he cannot be made chairman. Mr. Plum I understand that is not so. Mr. J. B. BaaNCXE : I feel convinced that nothing can be more injurious to the welfare of this Corporation and the success cf e proceedings which are taking place elsewhere, than the adjournment of this very question and the discus sion which has arisen. The lesser evil of the two now is to let the Dock Committees proceedings go on. (" No, no," and "Hear, hear.") Here, amid eon iderable confasif;n, the temper of the Council evidently growing warm with the debate, Mr. Alderman Moline and several other members lef,; the room, but some of them returned again. M r . HOENBY said that after what had fallen from Mr. Tobin, he should now vote against the adjournment. The Dseurr-114"aeost : And YOU moved the adjournment, I Tornby. (Uproar.) - - TODSON prote;ted against such interference o n th e -I ):Tuty-Mayor. (Uproar.) part ▪ of the _ Mr.o.bserved that he nover voted with more f w ee as lin e g y S ic il7 . ng in the back ground he should on this occasion. There evidently Here another rush of members from the room took place, and the confusion became greater. lu Mr. Teats : A. number of gentlr., leaving the men are 1, and if it is for the objeat of making no Counc il , , eting by a side-wind that which they are not able TOO7I. in a straightforward- way, it was very much to beo and m (Hear, hear.) to obts:,,, I have painfully waited and have green regre ted. le from the lips of gentlemen, wbv are ' , an myself, som e i n f orma ti on that will Mr, rf onso., anxious to gath, vote for the bene fi t of the town ; b etter aequaultacl t L enable me to give Di.) THE NORTHERN TIMES. LIVERPOOL, THURSDAY, AUGUST 6, 1857. but that information his not been furnished. (Hear, hear.) How then are we to act ? (Clamour, and cries of " vote.") The question of adjournment VOW then pat, and was lost by 10 to 21. Ulla voting was as follows : For the motion ; Aldermen Bennett and Dover; Coun cillors Stitt, Haydock, Steains, Picton, Kitchen, Hodson, Mellor, and Beckwith-10. Against the motion : Aldermen Chilton, Parker, Robin son, Gardner, and Houghton ; Councillors Anderson, Holden, Turner, Horuby, Livingston, Banner, Fernihough, Graves, Lawrence, A. Shane, Brancker, Tobin, Johnson, Farnworch, Robertson, and Hall-21. Mr. C. Tueeza : The adjournment having been nega tived, the proceedings of the Dock Committee will go on. (Hear, hear.) Mr. HODSON : Even dezpite our remonstrances The DEnTY-MAYOR Order, sir. lam put here to maintain order, and I call upon you to be silent. (Uproar ) Mr. flounce : There are a dozen gentlemen at the door, signalling with their friends hero. (Laughter and clamour.) The DEPUTY-MAYOR : I do not like that sign-making. I like what is open and fair, and I hops gentlemen will remain where they are. (Hear, hear.) Ihe proceediege of the Dock Committee were then read. Daring the reading, Mr. Kitchen attempted to leave the room, and was only allowed to do so on his promise to return. Tee noise waxel louder, and the Council was broken up into groups, the members of each group discussing some subject wieh much warmth. Mr. WAGSTAFF (with unusual animation) : There is a little legerdemain going on here, Mr. Ceairman. There is a canvassing goirg on to make no Council. Order was fir the moment restored, but the noise was renewed on Mr. Stitt leaving the room. Mr Alderman Gardner also attempted to leave the room, but was called balk. The proceedings having been read, they were, on the motion of Mr. C. TURNER, seconded by Mr. CHILTON, unanimously confirmed. Mr. C. TURNER : The teat business is the electicn of four members to serve on the Dock Committee in the room of Mr. C. Turner, Mr. Robinson, Mr. Chilton, at" Mr. Anderson. I move that those gentlemen be re-elected. I will put them separately. I move that Mr. Charles Tuner be re-elected. (Laughter.) Mr. Cisuir )s seconded the motion. Mr. Hoesoe : Supposing the election does not take place, would these gentlemen be retained in their offices, Mr. Turner as chairman, and the others as members of the Dock Committee, until new members are appointed ? The DEPUTY TOWN CLERK (Ar. Hughes) said that the election shou'd be made at the first meeting in August, or at some special meetit:g to be called fir the purpose. As, however, they had preceeded so far, he thought it would be prudent to fetish it. Mr. Hoesoe : So long as there is such a difference of ( pinion. The DEPUTY-MAYOR : Well, I really matt press ve order. ( Up -oar ) M. HODSON : I am entitled to speak on this question. I have aright to ask f infozneeiien which shall glide my vote. The RAPUTY-MAYOR : The question you asked was answered by the Tows-Clank. _ _ _ Mr. HOD'SON : I think it did not suit the cage. I think if we adjourn until Saturday, the election on that day will hold as good as ir it was done to-day. (" Hear, hear," and "No, no.") It does appear to tne something extraordinkry that Mr. Turner shQuid be CO anxious to press this matter to-day. (Hear, hear.) Mr. BRANCICER : The question bef:re the Council is the appcintment of a g .ntleman in the place of Mr. Turner. Does Mr. Hodson move an amendment ? (Hear, hear.) Mr. HODS )N : I have an amendment to move. I move that the Counciladj)urn for the election of these gentlemen to Saturday next, and I will give you my reason. I shall not treat the subject with reference to what is going on in London, but I submit that, when we have heard Mr. Helms, Hornby, and other gentlemen, who know all that is taking place, I do think it is extra ordinary that Mr. Tamer shJuld so press us to-day when it is not nece3sary for us to ,co►ne to a decision on the subject. The Council have been long subject to the system of silence; but if silence was pudent before, how much more SO a-e we told it is now ; and yet, despite of that, and in regard of the feelings of the gentlemen who have left the room, Mr. Turner wants to press this matter. (Hear, hear.) The DEPUIT-MAYOR : Allow me to put you right. This is not the work of Mr. Turner, it has been carried by a majority of the Council. Address yourself more to the Council, and not to Mr. Turner individually, and you will be in order. (Oh ! ott ! and clamour.) Mr. HOD ox hoped they would discuss the natter with calraness. He woutd appeal to Mr. Turner himself w' ether he would consider his election in a Council of twenty-two the fair expression of the Council's opinion. The DEPUTY-MAYOR : I am rather surprised at your modest requ;:st. (Laughter.) Whatever has been done has been done by the Council, and not by Mr. Turner. Mr. Hopsox : Well I move we adjourn to Saturday. The DEPUTY-MAYOR : Will any body second it ? Mr. JOIINSON : I second it. Mr. WAGSTAFF : Look at the doer, Mr. Mayor. (Laughter ) Tno door was partly open, and several members could be seen cautiou'ly peering in, acd waiting to see what turn affairs w,:uld take. Mn. Hodson hastened out to summon them to his support. The Th.:PUTT MAYOR : It is most uncourtous and ungen tlemanly for a gentleman to move an adjournment and then take his hat and walk off; (uproar.) Mr. WACWTAFF : We want a door-keeper. M:. Hor.nxs : There are a number of them again at the door. (Confu-ion.) The DEPUTY-MAYOR : I am not door-keTer. Mr. HALHEAD here came in—his first appearance. Mr. HoosoN returned, and was soon followed by Mr. Alderman linnet, Mr. Alderman Dover, Mr. Picton, Mr. A. C. Stewart, and other members. The DEPUTY Mayoit: This ie not honourable on their part—it is most improper. (Clamour.) Mr. BRANCKYR : Are those gentlemen who have just come in entitled to vote ? Mr. Picrort: Has the notion for adjou•nm3nt been put from the chair ? The DEPUTY-MAYOR : No, Sir. Mr. Plcrox : Then we are entitle ]to vote. The DErurY-MAyoF.: The glntleman who morel the adjournment took his hat and walked off. Mr. PICTON: Fro had a right tp do ED. I call upon you to put the motion. The DEPUTY-MAYOR : I am in the hands of the Council. (Clamour.) Mr. PICTON : You are bound to put it. (Uproar ) The DEPUTY-MAYOR :I am not (Renewed uproar.) Mr. Prorox : Yes you are. (Uproar ) The DEPUTY- 7rTAYOR : Will you hear me ? (Clamour (Mr. BECKWITH : Not in your individual capacity. (Uproar.) The Depery-Mayon ( warmly) : Will you sit down, air? (Laughter, and cries of " vote.") There are four gentlemen speaking at a time, and I must exert some little authority. I do not care whether you are pleased or not, but I must say the most unhandsome conduct has been used by gentle men of the C.,uncil this few/. I saw -.7l:hia my fifteen years experience of it. (Uproar.) Mr. STEAINS (jumping up with vehemence): I cannot sit still and hear such terms as " unhandsome" and " un gentlemanly" applied to me among others. I call upon you, sir, fir an explanation. (Great uproar.) The DEPUTY-Mivon: lam prepared to give it, Six or seven gentlemen go out and post themselves at the door, and when I send a messenger to request them to come in they refuse, and say they lave a right to remain there as long as they please, and would not allow the door to be closed. Mr HORNBY: The amendment having been moved, it is the duty of the chair to put it. (Hear, hear.) The DEPUTY-MAYOR : I bow to your judgment. Mr. SIIEIL : The representative c f the Mayor has made use of language which I must say was very much out of order. (Hear, hear.) He is placed there to preserve order and keep us within the propriety of language, but I appeal to every gentlemam if the anima aversions which he addressed to others should not be applied to himself. (Hear, hear.) He should have shown up a better example,. and whatever his individual opinions may have been, his conduct as a Mayor should have restrained him at least within those bounds which gentlemen usually lay down for themselves when they are presiding over others. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Sheil then referred to the question of adjournment, recommended by the deputation in London, and urged that they ought not to be deterred from doing what was recomme'.ided as prudent, by any threat of Mr. Turner. The Dapirrv-YIAvoR : Mr. Shell has thought proper to give way to his; temper, but it is hardly fair to so attack me in the situation I am now placed. Let him move a vote of censure on me and I shall be very proud to receive it from h;,m. Mr. Sheil is fond of these attacks, but I throw 'them back on him with the contempt they merit. (Oh, *oh !" and great uproar.) : Oh, most temperate chairman ! (H a a r , and laughter.) Mr. C. TuavEs. urged that the proceedings of some geneemen in this matter showed that there was a personal animosity to himself. (Cries of " No, no.") He was not alluding to Mr. Sheil.—(cries of " name, same.") —but he had no doubt of that animosity on the part of some gentle.. men, and that the repea t e d mot i ons o f a dj ournmen t were not dictated by any feeling of public utility or principle, but by personal feeling. (Cries of " No, no.") He was glad that there was such a disclaimer, and he retracted the words. (Hear, hear.) Mr. HODSON : I shall vote for Mr. Turner on Saturday. Mr. C. TURNER urged that, the discussion having now arisen, the adjournment could be of no practical use, but would he looked upon by the town and the country at large as a slur on the character of the gentlemen who were put in nomination. (Cries of "No, no," and hear, hear.) Mr. Hoaxer disclaimed any animosity in the matter He had always entertained for Mr. Turner the greatest friendship, and held that no man was better fitted to be a member of the Dock Committee. • Mr. STRAINS also disclaimed any personal hostility to Mr. Turner. He supported the motion of adjournment because he was informed by Mr. Alderman Holme that it was essential to the interests of the ratepayers that the Council should adjourn. Mr. Twills : This is the telegraph from London : " The deputation think it of the utmost importance that there should be no debate in the Council on the proceed- ings in London, and after the Dock Committee's proceedings adjourn the Council till Saturday next." A subsequent telegraph was received, stating that they were of opinion there should be no Council; but I believe myself, after what has taken place. gre4ter evil will arise from adjourn ment than from proceeding. Mr. Alderman DOVER. said that a discussion bad now arisen, in which every person interested in fixed property in the town should take part. They were advised from head-quarters, and that advice should be taken. (Hear.) Mr. Tobin had cleverly given a turn to the communication, from London. It said nothing, certainly, about the elec tion of members, but it advised that they should not go beyond the proceedings of the Dock C ommittee— (hear, hear)—and that advice, which was doubtless based on prudence, should be adopted. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Alderman GARDNER urged the same view. It was the duty cf the Dock Committee, no doubt, to stand up for their own, but it was no less the duty of the Council to protect themselves ( Hear, hear.) He hoped they would do that, and adopt the advice of their deputation in London (Hear, hear.) Mr. A C. STEWART said Mr. Alderman Holme came down to the Conned that day for the express purpose of preventing the meeting from ping on. He now held in his hand a telegraphic message, of the meaning of which there could be no doubt. It said, "It is very important that there should be no Conned to-dly." Mr. TURNER: From whom is that message ? Mr. SrEWART : From a member of the deputation. Mr. TURNER : That message is from Mr. Jeffery, gentle men. FTEWART : Mr. Turner is old enough to know how to behave him.ielf. Mr. Stewart went on to say it w.s a well-known fact that the membfra of the Council and the Dock Committee had not been drawinz together, and that if these gentlemen were now re-elected, it might not answer the purposes of the Council. The DEPUTY-MAYOR aske I from whom the message came to which Mc S:ea art alluded. Mr. Honsore: That is not the question. I not think that h s anything to do with tn.e question. Teere is a great deal of needless pertonality here. Mr. STEWART : I have stated the facts of the case. The name of the writer can be had by any gentleman in the room. _ Mr. TURNER : Oh, the name of the writer is Mr. Jeffery. Mr. STEWART objected to their sending Mr Turner back, as elected, t) the Dock Cimnaittee, until they were qii:te sure that the members of that committee and of the Council wens working harmoniously tcgether in London. They ought not to stultify themselves, and vote away the property of their constituent., by sending gentlemen to that committee who might give votes dead against them. Mr. AldOrM7M BENNETT supported the adjournment. Mr. STITT, while disclaiming all personal feeling, urged that in the present position of affairs, with the impression SO strongly prevailing out of doors that there was an antagonism between the Dock Commit , ee and the Council, and after the advice they had received from men in whom they placed so much confidence, the election should be postponed. Finally, the Council divided upon the amendment, when there appeared— For the motion : Aldermen Bennett, Preston, Dover, and Gardner; Councillors, Stitt, Stewart, Shoji, Haydock, Steains, Banner, Fernihougb, Jo'inson, Picton, Kitchen, Hodson, Mellor, Beckwith, and Anthony-18. Against the motion : Aldermen Chilton, Parker, Robin son, and Houghton ; Councillors Anderson, Holden, Turner, Hornby, Livingston. Graves, Wagstaff, Lawrence, Shand, Brancker, Tobin, Farnworth, Robertson, Hall, and Halhead-19. The amsndment was consequently lost. Mr. Plea' )N said ho had another amendment to - propose. He considered that about as important a Council mewing as had ever been held in Liverpool. Whether his conduct was called unhandsome, whether personalities or epithets wore used or not, ho should not be prevented from doing what he conceived to be his duty. They were called upon at present to express an opinion, which he thought they ought not to be forced to express. Tnere was a question of vast importance, involving hundreds of thousands of pounds, connected with the town of Liverpool, pending now for settlement before Parliament. Negociations had been entered into by the promoters of the bill, and those who were opposing it, with a v 7 ew to some compromise or arrangement. Matters had arrived at a certain point in the course of the negotiations, and it was considered by those whom the Cannel had appointed as their managers, that thay should be left at the present time free and unfettered to adopt those measures which they might think best for the welfare of the town of Liverpool. It was their 01)7/lion that it would be better, upon the present occasion, to avoid any discussion whatever upon any matter involving difference of opinion in regard to the bills before parliament, because they knew perfectly well, that whatever decision might be arrived at by the Council, would be eagerly seized upon by their opponents out of doors, and would, if possible, be wrested to their disadvantage. Caution, therefore, and prudence, were absolutely necessary; and having confilence, as he had— perfect confidence —in the gentlemen who had been ap pointed to transact their business, he was quite willing to leave the matter entirely in their hands, to do the best they could for the welfare of the community. Reference had been made to the telegraphic messages which had been sent down, and one message,which was nameless, had been alluded to. as giving a sanction for the proceedings which were attetnrni to be forces upon the Council that day. Another message, which sanctioned opposite views, was treated with contempt, b.cause it was supposed to emana'e from a gentleman certainly not inferior in talent and respectability to any member of the Council be he who he might, if that gentleman had sufficient of their confidence to be sent up as one of the de putation, to manage such an affair of importance, surely he was entitled to have his opinion listened to with respect at all events. (Hear, hear ) The DEPUTY-MAYOR : Are you speaking now upon the question of melection Mr. PICTON : I am about to move an amendment and I have a right to move it in my own way. With all deference to the chair, I intend to do so. Mr. LIVINGSTON : I apprehend that every speaker has a perfect right to choose his own way of moving an amend men ; but, I think, in deference to the Council, and in deference to the representative who is in the chair, this language ought to be addressed in a little more courteous style. Mr. Prcrost : If Mr. Livierton will point out any one expression I have used disrespectful, improper, or dis courteous, I will withdraw it. Mr. LIVINGSTON : You stated that you were abaut to move an amendment, and that you would move it your own way. _ Mr. Picrox : I did say so, and I say so again. lam not aware that there is anythirg disrespectful er din3ur teous in that. I understood that the chairman was com menting on the mode in which I introduced my amend ment. The DEPUTY MAYOE. : I merely askod if you wore speak ing to the motion. Mr. Pic rox : I am quite sure, sir, that whatever Mr. Livingston may think, you will know that I am the lest person to say anything disrespectful. I have too high an opinion of your talent to do anything of the kind. Mr. Piston then proceeded to say that all discussion hid been deprecated by the deputation now in London ; and he had expected, from the tone the meeting took in the early part of the day, that they would have acted in perfect good humour, and with mutual good understanding—that nothing would have been brought forward which was at : - 11 likely to give occasion to differences of opinion —that the-discussion of all matters relating to the Mersey Con servancy Bill would have been studiously avoided, as had been recommended by those in whom they all had perfect confider,ce. The very telegraphic message whi.'h had been read by Mr. Tobin, was precisely to the effict that, after the Dock Committee's proceedings had been read, the the Council should then adjourn. The Dock Committee's proceedings had been read and had been confirmed. His Worship the MAYOR here entered the room, and resumed his seat. Mr. PICTON went on to say, that gentlemen must have known, upon the slightest consideration, that the election of the four members must have the effect of causing dis cussion. Those gentlemen had taken up a certain position, and advocated certain views. He was not going into that question then ; but they had advocated certain views as regarded the position of the Dock Committee and the dock trust, in reference to the Council and the ratepayers of the town. Knowing the part which they had taken, knowing the terms which they wished to enforce upon the ratepayers of Liverpool, with regard to compensation for the Town Dues, and with regsrd to the Birkenhead estate, and other matters into which he would not then enter, were the members of the Council, in the present state of affairs, to return these gentlemen at once again as their representatives from the Town Council, and, in so far, pronounce an opinion upon the merits of the question ? Were they prepared to go such a length ? Were they prepared to discard all that their representatives in Lon lon had been doing for them, with so much care, attention, and desire to serve their interests, and pin themselves upon the sleeve of Mr. Turner and his coad jutors? That was just the issue —that was the question which they were called upon to dse'cle. Would it not be more prudent under the circumstances that they should gat a little more time to consider before pronouncing upon the merits of such a question as this discussion involved ? They ought not to be called upon to prejudice themselves by taking any step which might be turned to their dissdvan tege. He could not help feeling—nay, he was certain in his own mind, that one great object in pushing this question to day, was to torce the Council to give an opinion, to take advantage of that opinion, to g ) armed with that opinion to the House of Commons, and declare that they had got the latest opinion of the Council, and that they, and not the deputation, spoke the sentiments of the Council, (Hear, hear, "No, no.") Now, he asked the Council , as re presentatives of the ratepayers of Liverpool, were they prepared to take that step, which might, and very probably would, end in entailing an amount of taxation upon them which was unknown ? Were they prepared, for the sake of consulting the feelings of gentlemen—however desirabie it might be at the proper time to consu'•t their feelings—to stultify themselves, and take a step of which they might hereafter repent, and merely fit the sake of avoiding a delay of three or four days at the utmost. He would like to know what possible evil could result from the course which he advocated? Mr. Turner might sty that it would be thought he ha 1 not given satisfaction in the position he had occupied, as one of the representatives of the Ceuncil in the Dock Committee. Be it so Sup pose even that it were so, he was prepared to express an opinion of that sort, sooner than he would jeopard;ze the the property of the town for the sake of giving a gentle man's feelings three days' respite. (Hear, hear.) Sow, after the discussion which had taken place in that room, what bad been the result? The motion for adjournment had been njected by a majority of one. He asked, was it proper, was it decent, to force upon the Council, wi h a single majority of one, the discussion and determinaiion of a question of that kind, which might be fraught with ruin to their interests ? He implored the Council to pause before they proceeded to a decision. An oppor tunity was again afforded by the motion he was about to make to tide the matter over fora day or two. A minority in the House of Commons had, and properly had, ; he power, in order that they should not be forced by the majority into any precipitate step, to postpone the question by a series of mAions for adjournment, until time had been obtained for its consideration. That was repeatedly done iu the House of Commons, and he called upon the minority then in the Council Chamber to follow the example. He concluded by moving as an amen iment that the Council do adjourn at once until the following Tuesday, at eleven o'clock. Mr. BECKWITH felt much pleasure in secondirg the amendment. Mr. TURNER said that was the first time he ever re c3llected in that Council. room, that after a motion f,r adjournment had been rejected, it was repea'ed. There was a motion for the adjournment of the Council made, and, after a long di , cussion, that motion was negatived. 1 he usual course taken in all these proceedings. under such circumstances, was to vote upon the general question. It had been said by Mr. Picton that this was not a personal question. If anything could prove that he (Mr. Turner) was right when he said it was a personal question, it would be the second motion for adjournment, because it was impossible for any man, with a head upon his shoulders—and Mr. Picton had a very good head on his shoulders —could suppose that that that motion could be attended with any benefit to the town or the ratepayers What had been the allegation which he had been bearing in London from time to time ? It was, that the Corporation of Liverpool cared for nothing except their own pecuniary interest., and that they were regardless of the trade and commerce of the town. (Oh, oh.) He had heard that accusation, and had frequently rebutted it. No person had acted for the interests of the ratepayers of Liverpool more than he had himself, and was he to be told that, after six ear's service in the chair of the Dock Commi ttee, during the whole of which he never had any difference of opinion with the Council on auy one paint— was he to be told that his re-election must be delayed for days, for the interest of the to sn. (Cheers) Be was told so by Mr. Picton, and he said that it was made a per sonal question by Mr. Picton. (Cries of " No, no.") Yes, it, was mads a personal question, and a political ques tion. (Cries of " No, no.") He said it was so. That was what he believed, and he twist express his belief. He heard Mr. Picton say "no," but it orig.nated there. Mr. BANNER thought Mr. Turner had no right to say that that was made a political question. (Hear, hear.) He voted for and supported[r. Turner politically with all his heart, elthough he was one of those who voted for the adjournment. Mr. TURNER : I am not speaking of the first motion for adjournment, I am speaking of the repeated motion for adjournment. Mr. TOBIN thought the remark scarcely proper upon the part of lir. Turner. The parties who moved the adjourn ment thought, no doubt, that they were promoting the interests of the town and of the community. (.11ean) Mitt TURNER said he was quite sure 'M-. Tobin believed it. He, however, felt bound to say he did not believe that the parties who moved the second ajourntnent be lieved they were promoting the interests of the rate payers. He would not say what he did not believe, and he did not believe that. It was impossible for any gentlemen to believe that such would be the effect Was he to go to London to negociate matters of the kind, with a sort of threat hanging over his head, that if he exercised his judgement to the best of his ability, acting fairly, as he always did and always intended to do, to the Coun cil one side, and the trade- of the pert on the other, he was liable to have no re-election on Saturday? He begged to say it would be impossible far him to act under such circumstances. If it was the pleasure of the Council to suspend the election that day, he had respectfully to state that he would stay at home until the question was settled. He could not attend the D ck Committee, nor take part in the proceedings pending before parliament while his election was postponed for. four or five or six days a very unueual course, unexampled in his recollection, and which he believe" had never been adop'el. He had been planed in what m'ght, perhaps, be called an unfortunate position in this metier. He ceuld assure the Council— and he could express it even in the presence of the re I porters, to go forth to the t even—that he lied combatted in the Dock Committee moat strongly for what he believed to be the true interests of the Corporation ; and in that committee he had combatted' also for the trade of the port. There were gentlemen of extreme views on b>th sides. There were geudemen in the D3ck,Committee who, during the proceedings, said to him. " You are a member of the Council, and you are not taking the interests of the dock rate-payers into account." On the other hand he would be told, he °resumed by the gentlemen who were moving the adjournment, that while in the Council he was thinking of nothing but the lock rate-payere. Now, he thought, it was the business of every man to do what he thought right and fair to both parties in the question. The dock estate and the Corporation had each a very large interest in the town. On the well-being of both those immense estates the prosperity of the town hung. It was a great source of satisfaction to him that, during the six years while he filled the chair of the Dock Committee, there never had been a quarrel between the Dock Committee and the Council. Some gentlemen said that he did not sufficiently advocate the interest of the Council. He had opposed the Mersey Conservancy Bill from first to last with the utmost of his ability in the interests of the Council. He considered it a matter of spoiliation, a most unjust attack upon the Council, and when it passed through the House of Com mons, the first thing he observed to the Dock Committee wag, that he thought they ought to oppose the bill with their utmost vigour, and not to submit to such an at'empt, which would, take away £l4O 000 a year from the Council, for the paltry sum of £600,000. He always exerted himself to obtain a much larger amt unt for the Council or Corporation, and he thought two millions would have been much nearer to the mark, and would still have been an inadequate compensation. On the other hand, as a member of the Dock Committee, he was bound to say that, during the negotiations, the trade of the port was not impoperly trammelled. Ha endeavoured to do his duty between the two ieteres' R. He was opposed to as alteration of the trust. The Council represented half of the constituency of the Dock Committee, and he considered that when a gentleman attended that committee he represented the Town Council as well as the dock rate payers. He had always endeavoured to act upon this principle, and he therefore considered it unjust that a sort of stigma should be cast upon him, as if he did not do his duty, in the"place where the Council had done him the honour of electing him. He could truly say that he felt it a high honour to be the chairman of the Dock Committee, and he felt it an honour to be a member of the Council He had done his duty in each capacity without fear, favour, or affection, and to the best of his ability. He had supported the interests of the Council and the dock ratepayers, and it was a libel upon him for any gentleman to say that he had not, to the utmost of his power, upon every occaficn, sustained the rights and privileges of the public of Liverpool. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Alden:23a PARKER vehemently opposed the adjourn ment. Mr. Hominy regretted that the discussion which had taken place was not one calculated to promote the interests of the Council. It was very true that at the commencement of the proceedings of the day he had said, it would be desirable that the Cotincl should not proceed to the re-election of the members of the Dock Committee that day. lie did so, for the very same reason Mr. Turner himself had given, fearing that a discussion might take place, which would be very injurious to their interests. But after what had taken place, he thought they would best promote the important interests which were committeed to their care, by at once, without further delay, re-electing the four gentlemen. (" No, no," and hear, hear.) He was quite sure that every gentleman who, at the opening of the pro ceedings, was of opinion that an early adjournment was desirable, entertained that opinion without having the slightest personal hostility to any one of the four gentle men. (Hear, hear.) On the contrary, he believed that they were all very excellent members, and that they could not appoint four gentlemen who would better represent the interests of the Council in the Dock Com mittee. (Hear, hear.) He therefore strongly recommended Mr. Picton, and the gentlemen who were anxious for an adjournment, that after the discussion which had taken place they should withdraw the amendment. (No, no.) At all events, if the present amendment should be pressed, let them proceed at once to a vote without any further dis cussion, or remarks from gentlemen, of which they did not know what the consequence or the result might be. (Hear, hear.) Let them at once have the sense of the Council taken upon the adjournment, and then, if the amendment were lost, proceed at once with the election. (Hear, hear, and "no, no.") Mr. Alderman BENNETT disclaimed all personal motive in the matter, and urged that in prudence they were bound to fol ow the adv:c3 of the telegraphic messege. Mr. HODSON called attention to the fact that the motion for adjournment would have been carried had not the four gentlemen personally interested voted. (Laughter.) It was well known, he said, that the matter in London would have been settled long ago if it was not for the Dock Committee. Mr. C. TURNER, : That is not the fact. Mr. HonsON : It is the fact. Mr. C. TURNER : It is not the fact. Mr. HonsoN: I was there myself. You know as well al Ido that until a responsibility as sought to be put upon the new trust, the Do k Committee did not interfere in the contest. (Hear, hear.) Mr. KITCHEN urged the Council to follow the advice of the deputation. Mr. HALL recommended them to choose the lesser evil and to proceed with the election, Mr. GRAVES said that he saw six of the members of the deputation in I ondon on Tue?day night, and that from his conversation with them they seemed to consider that the election cf the mcmbera on the Dock Committee that day wAild be a matter of course. He deprecated any distinc tion being drawn between the merchants and tradesmen of the town in this matter, and urged that it was by the union of both that Liverpool was proTparous. He believed there was no ditferonce as to money between the Council deputation and the Dock Committee, but one as to Mr. C. TURNER: Yes, it is not a quistion of money at all. Mr Sum : Has there not been considerable difference of opinion between the deputations in London? Mr. TOBIN : No, the course of both bodies has been in harmony ; and to show that there has been no d;fference as to money, I will road the egreement that was drawn up. It is as follows : —" The Corporation to be paid by the dock trust the sum of £1 500,000, The Corporation to complete, at their own cost, the landing-stage now in curse of con struction in front of the Prince's-pier. The landing-stage, when completed, and the observatory to be transferred to the dock trust, who are to maintain the same at their own cost and cheer, and to pay all coats and charges incident to the conservancy of the Mersey and Wallasey and Lea- Bowe embankment, and to exercise and fulfil all the powers and duties, and obligations of the Corporation. The undertaking of the Birkenhead docks, as vested' iiz the Corporation under the act of 1855, and the North Reserve to be transferred to the Dock trust, who shall pay or adequately secure to the Corporation the repayment of all sums expended by them in the purchaie of the said undertaking, and of the Nor!le. Reserve, or towards the completion of the works, or in relation thereto, or for the payment of which the Corpora tion have become liable ; and shall also pay t o, o r relieve the Corporation from all liability, or expense, or loss incurred, or to be incurred, by the Corporation for the purpose of the said undertaking, and the North Reserve, or incident, or in relation thereto, or consequent on the purchase, or possession thereof, by the Corporation, with interest thereon. Tne Corporation to construct works, under existing contracts, as to works, at Bir kenhead, until the election of the new trust, and such trust then to assume such contracts, and to recoup the Corporation all that was paid on account thereof, with the interest." There was not the slightest difference between the Corporation and the Dock Com mittee on those points, an 3 the only difference which wose bad reference to a minor point—to certain restric tions attempted to be imposed on the to be-constituted trust, which it was thought would be exceedingly injurious. Yesterday, the matter took another phase, and the gentlemen in London thou ,ht the difference could be adjusted Trey sent a mescege doe, but the Dock Committee telegraphed back, stating that they saw no reason to alter the opinion they had previously expressed. The Town Clerk asked mo to come down and explain the point I clime down, and we were to have met to day at one o'clock to d'scuss it. That was the only difference between them. Mr Srn'v expressed his gratification that the mists and darkness which hung over that great question wore begin log to be dispeVe !, and that the public would have no longer to depend upon newspaper reports which were bei,g forwarded one day and contradicted the next. (Hear, hear) They had now a different statement put forward by Mr. Tobin. Mr. Tobin based his opinion, that the amendment ought to be withdrawn, upon the ground that the matter had at length arrived at a certain definite point, nac,ely, that the Corporation and the Dock Com mittee were agreed upon the sum of £1,500,000, and the transfer of the Birkenhead estate, and also partially agreed upon the question of the Great Western piece of land. HA was very happy to hear that they had agreed, but Mr. Tobin had not told them through how much opposition, upon the part of the Dock Committee, that de-irabie result had been arrived at. Mr. TOBIN : I do not wish you to go away with a wrong impression. I can assure you, there has been no opposition whatever. There has not b3en am speaking of the proceedings in London—any opposition or difficulty on the part of the Thek Committee, with reference to those i oints, 'whatever. (Hear, hear.) by l‘ m le r .:F l T o rrr bin w , a a s n v d e c r o y u h ld a " Zi t ; information from members of thedeputation, who had given s h a e y a r t t h h a e t ehre p'a h n a a a tio r n ec g a i v v e e d n as much importance to the fact that, an agreement had a very different version. Therefore, he could not attach now at length been, arrived at, as Mr. Tobin did. It had been said that the interests of the community would be greatly prejudiced by the discussion which had taken place that day. Very possibly, and gentlemen who made the remark ought to remember, and he hoped the town would have it very clearly made known, that the discussion had not arisen out of any intention upon the part of those who desired the adjournment, but had arisen from the deter mination put forth and persisted in to force the Council into the re election. (Hear, hear.) The motion for adjournment was then put, and lost by 17 to 20. The voting was as follows : For the motion : Aldermen Bennett, Preston, Dover, and Gardner ; Councillors Stitt, Stewart, Sheil, Haydeck, Sreains, 133nner, Fernihough, Johnson, Piston, Kitchen, Hodson, Mellor, and Beckwith-11. Against : The Mayor ; Aldermen Chilton, Parker, Robinson, and Houghton ; Councillors Anderson, Holden, Turner, Livingston, Graves, Wagstaff', Lawrence, Shand, Brancker, Tobin, Farnworth, Robertson, Hall, Haihead, and Anthony--20. The gentlemen in favour of adjournment expresed their determination to remain until midnight sooner than give way. They moved another adjournment. Mr. ToBIN said he had telegraphed to the Town-clerk to know the precise meaning of his message, and beag-d of the Council to adjourn for an hour, by which time he expected the answer would arrive. The opposition declined, and pzristed in the motion of adjournment, which was lost by 18 to 19. Another motion for adjournment sine die was lost by the same numbers. The voting was the same in both cases. At length, both parties wearied out, (the debate, if it can be so called, havinT lasted to near a quarter to five o'clock,) agreed to an adjournment to this day (Thursday), when they will re-assemble in the same plate, at eleven o'clock, a.m.