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Imperial Varliament. HOUSE OF LORDS.-MONDAY. Viscount DUNCANNON brought up the second report of the commissioners of public instruction in Ireland.-=Ordered to be printed. Tlae Irish tithe instalments suspension bill sus passed through committee. and the stamp and assessed taxes bill and the fines and recoveries bill were each read a third time and passed. Lord ELLltNeortocuu moved for a return of the number of bills brought up from the commons, amended by their lordships, and finally passed as amended.—Ordered. BILLS SENT UP FROM THE COMMONS. The Marquis of WESTMEATH _ calle , l the attention of the house to a motion made in the other house of parliament re specting the bills sent up from that house, and which, from the terms of the motion, it might be inferred their lordships had de feated, or unnecessarily or improperly retarded the business of parliament. This, however, was contrary to the fact. The re turn to which he alluded contained the titles of fifty bills. On looking into their lordships' .votes he found that with the excep tion of sixteen all these bills had made progress ; many of them had passed, some had received and others were waiting to re ceive the royal assent. The situation of' these bills could be sa tisfactorily accounted for. Some of them had been in the house since the commencement of the session, and as nobody thought proper to take them up they remained as they were. No noble lord could force a bill through the house without stating the rea son of its introduction and the grounds on which it proceeded. The noble marquis then proceeded to make some remarks on the suspended bills. Speaking of the constabulary bill (Ire land) he said, this bill took away from the magistracy the right of superintending and appointing .the constabulary force—this was done without bringing any charge against the magistrates. The Dublin police, with reference to the corporation of Dublin, would have had the Caine eff.rct. The Irish voters registration bill had for its object the breaking down the principle assented to by the legislature, and established by the reform bill. The measure went, in fact, to establish a pauper constituency in Ireland, and to render a pauper qualification sufficient for a seat in parliament. This was his answer to what had been said as to the conduct of that house; and he could not let the session pass over without noticing the subject, as a representative peer of Ireland. Ile would also observe, that many of these mea sures came up to their lordships at so late a period that it was quite impossible to pass them, provided they were to be consi dered maturely. He thou;_cht it.of importance that the public should know these facts when their; lordships were blamed for not doing their duty. • • • The Earl of ABERDPRN presented a petition from Liverpool against any alteration in the existing timber duties. MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS BILL—THE CONFERENCE. The Earl of DEVON ranyed . thatat message be sent to tho House of Com mons t o request. a conference on this bill.—Or dered. The m essage was sent,hy Master Roupell, and the de puty clerk of the parliaments, , who hwiing reported to the house that the request was agreed to, the lords appointed to manage the conference proceeded to the place appointed, where a depu tation was in waiting from the Ilouse of Commons to receive them. After a lapse of a short 'tithe the lords appointed to manage the conference returned to the house and reported that they had delivered to the commons their reasons for disagreeing, with some of the amendments last made by the commons to the corporation bill.—The house then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MoNnAr. Mr. DIVETT presented several petitions from licensed vic tuallers complaining that the relief afforded them in the reduc tion or spirit licences by the Chancellor of the Exchequer would be delusive an.l totally inoperative. Mr. SCHOLEFIELD presented a petition from certain members or the council of the Birmingham political union in favour of the municipal corporation bill as it original's- stoud. The peti tioners attributed nine-tenths of the amendments made by the lords to narrow, selfish, and aristocratic motives. POOR LAW BILL. Major Bicauctitax presented a petition from a place in Surrey against this bill, and especially complaining of the part of it relating to workhouses, and the separation of men from their wives. The hon. member asked Lord John Russell if lie was aware that orders had been issued by the commissioners to s:op all out door relief this season ? Such orders had been sent to a place in Sussex where he had been stopping. The opinion of the clergyman, magistrates, and guardians of the poor in that place, although friends to the poor law bill, was decidedly - against enforcing such orders at th►s season of the year. Their universal opinion was, alit the enforcement of such orders would spread misery , and want in the agricultural districts, and that the old, the s►ck, and the infirm, vrho had not anticipated such a thin, and who bad *laid l.y nothing to meet such an emergency, would be consigned to starvation. Mr. Constable, the clergyman of the place be alluded to, had been a great friend to the bill, but he had lately withdrawn his name from the list of guardians to the poor, being of opinion that an attempt was made to carry the bill too quickly into execution in all its parts. Lord JOHN RUSSELL agreed with the hon. gentleman that the bill should be carried into effect gradually. He had stated that as his opinion to the poor law commissioners, and be thought that their conduct proved that they were fully sensible of the necessity of acting in this manner. Their reports were for warded to him from time to time, and he should certainly parti cularly attend to what orders they made. Mr. RoatNsors was sorry he had not directly answered the question, whether the commissioners had issued orders to put an end to out-door relief. He (Mr. II.) had been friendly to the general principle of the hill i but one clause of the act he thought a horrid one—he alluded to the bastardy clause. It was a cliff graceful enactment. He would'caution the noble lord against taking a too favourable view of the operation of the act during the present cheapness of food. Mr. 'l'. ATTWOOD trusted that before government or parlia ment gave their sanction to orders of this kind, for doing away with out-door relief, they would have orders issued to the over seers to find work and good wages for the poor man who woind be thus deprived of support. THE CONFERENCE. At the close of the conference with the Hone of Lords, Lord John Russell having reported- to the house the result, moved that the amendments of the lords to the Municipal corporations bill be taken into consideration. This motion being agreed to the amendments were read at the table by the clerk. Lord JOHN It ussau. then addressed the house at great length. He could have wished that the lords had agreed to all the amendments made by that house, but he had to state that those alterations io the bill to which he bad an insuperable objection had been abandoned by the lords; His lordship then proceed ed to notice in succession .the amendments and alterations made in the bill by the other house; these, he said, would be best judgetiof after the bill had come into operation, and be would not hesitate to say that considering how much this bill had been amended by different hands, and how the original de sign had in some measure been departed from, it was impossible for parliament to'go on for any considerable time without tak ing this matter into consideration. (Loud cheers.) He came then to consider this bill as a whole, and whether the House of Commops would be justified to the country and to their consti tuents in assenting to this measure. (Hear, hear.) H e did not think it would be wise to attempt any fresh amendment, for the real queition was whether they could present this bill to the country as a foundation of great improvements in its municipal institutions. He had no hesitation in saYing that he so con sidered it. (Cheers) In the first place, all the various bodies who were self-elected, with their various and discordant privi leges. were put an end to. ( Hear, hear.) The system of ap pointing justices, which the House of Lords had declared to be bad, was also at an end, and they had a system raised at l as t upon a round basis, which it could not be denied was a great gain for the better, affd would assist in securing what remained to be acquired. Besides this, there was the introduction of a good system of justice in the boroughs. Their recorders would sit to dispense justice, men being well versed in the law, and not appointed : Merely as a compliment. In another respect a great improvement had been made, because, although they had admitted the preservation of the rights of property, as they were styled, to freemen, and.of their right to vote for members of par liament, yet trey did away with them as municipal electors altogether, (hear, hear,) and if they would enter into the muni cipalconstituen_cy, they mint enter under the uniform rule of paying rates. With respect to the boundaries, ninety-three of these harchglis,had their boundaries settled by the commission ers under the boundary act, and this would be a great improve ment. There were various other great improvements in the bill, and one in particular, which did not belong to any party, was that one which prqvicied that there should be in future a good police in those towns by means of a watch committee ap pointed by the popular council, and referring to them all ques tions relating to the quiet and safety of the town. (Hear, hear.) Containing these advantages, then, and containing the germ of many other improvements, he might say that this bill laid the foundation of good government for the municipal towns of the kingdom: Among other advantages which it held out, he looked particularly, and indeed to nothing Tore than, to the proper distribution of charitable funds; and as it' was provided that these funds shoold not be abused by indiyttluals, but should be distributed according to the intention of the donors; looking at these advantages eltegAther, although he wad not altogether satisfied With the bills be was content to take it as Raves, since it could not be Considered Ps be a final measure. It was useless for.him to'make aoyaleclnfation on this suhject, because those who had framed the amendments had taken special care that, it shoeld net be -50...c005ic1gred......( great ch eeri n ) Viewing it, then, in that light, he thnitgfit that he was justified in recom mending the House, ,of commens to put an end to the contro versy which had been carried on,' and to take care by assenting to Mesa amendments that the bill should' become an act of par liament. (beer, beer.) lie bad oo doubt himself that when the new.constitution ef. these boroughs Came into 'effect, and when the new elections should take place, they would-find that, there bad been great improvements in the gevernmetit of then; —that they would find many defects removed, many abuses cor rected, and that the working of the bill itself Wouldshow hoW, with the consent of the Muse . of Lords, the whole system might be improved in a future session.. '(Hear, hear.) He knew that with respect to any great measure of this kind it was not possible in a :mixed censti:trtion like ours to tarry into effect at once all those refiring which one tuightthink necessary. As,longas he had a 'rat in parliatnent, in all those measures of i reform n" Which he had borne a humbler part, it had always been• his maxim tie yield something to which he was opposed,•ln Order' to have some measures placed upon the statute book Thich should attest* the progress of our legislation, This w as ' the course he had pursued with respect to the repeal of the test a . nct corporation act s , f or , O bj ec ti ng as h e did to any.declaration, ne was glad to get the solemn declaration of parliament that the riacramental test was a profanation and an abominetion. A different line - of conduct was followed by those who mew/ years atgo, Upon the Doman catholic question, gave up the bill be cone seats in _patliament were p o t conceded. He had always thooßht - that if that bill had then been passed 'at once, the re ,xnaiteing clause ofose e t s i n par li ament would have b een muc h sooner conceded thew it wits. (Hear, hear.) ' Now with re spect to measures of this kind, if we lived under the sway of an arbitrary mobittch. or ander a tovernment totally democratic, we might . pass the* it once ,lust as they were originally pro posed. The . King,of, Pi - notes many years ago issued an edict, by vrbich all corporate officers were to be elected by house holden. Ha had tie difficulty in doing that. In the same way, in a government purely popular there would be no difficulty in carrying through measures as they were framed. But we lived under a tempered government, and he wished to see all the re forms which he thought necessary carried into effect consistent ly with the maintenance of our existing institutions and our tempered government. He would s a y, that if we were prepared to abandon that tempered form of government, we should suffer much greater evils than we might otherwise be called on to 'en counter. He was therefore prepared to propose that the house should agree to the amendments made by the lords, looking forward, as he did, to the future prospects of ,annther session. .(Great cheering.) A gond deal would be gained by this step towards the reform of the corporations in Irehtml (bear, hear,) which must necessarily be introduced in the coarse of the en suftg sessiim,T There were various other subject s which A:ailed loudly upon their 'Attention. There were reforms to he cerried Which related to the grievances of she dissenters, and a reform of the English church, which, by the consent 'and ailowirl of ell parties, required to be carried into effect. He should think it of great advantage if, in-aced of having to begin again with a reconsideration of a vshole bill upon this subject, and to go over all the discussions they had already had, they should have this bill carried into a law, and that they should only find it neces sary:A° examine into the defects remaining with respect to this measure, that they might carry on those other reforms of which the country stood in need. (Cheers.) He thought, too, that they should in that way carry into effect, as far as it lay in their power, the pledge which had been given by hisnoble friend Lord Spence; in the last session of parliament. At the close of that session, his noble friend declared he should be prepared at the commencement of the present session to introduce a mea sure of municipal reform. By the government which was formed at the commencement of this session, instead of such a measure having been introduced, they had only been told the rep rt of the commissioners would be laid before them, and that it would receive due consideration, but accompanied at the same time with sundry hints and rumours, that it had been declared by high authority that the commission appointed to inquire into those corporations was altogether illegal. ( Hear, hear.) From that time, however, they had made this step, that they hail in troduced a measure which had met with the general consent of the House of Commons (hear, hear) ; that measure had been altered; but altered as it was, maimed as it was in many of its parts, he thought it would stilt fulfil the wishes they (had ex pressed on the first day of the session, to see ,Mr municipal cor porations subject to popular control"). ( Hear, hear.) With these observations he would only further take the liberty of moving, that the house do agree to the amendments made by the House of Lords. (Cheers.) At the close of the debate the question was put and carried without a division. ORANGE LODGES Mr. FIUME brought up the report of the select committee ap pointed to inquire into the state of orange lodges in England, and, in moving that the report be printed, stated that it recom mended to the attention of the house the orders issued by the right hon. the Commander of the Forces on the 31st ultimo. declaring that any officer or soldier who shall attend any regi mental or other lodge should be brought to a court-martial, and be dismissed the service; and the committee recommended to the house the adoption of a similar principle with respect to per sons holding civil offices, that was to say, that any person hold ing office under the crown, and belonging to any society joined together under secret oaths, signs, or tokens, should be dis missed from his office. The committee, bearing in mind that there was scarcely a corps, either of militia or the regular ser vice in the army, which at one time or other had not its orange lodge, and when it also , remembered that those lodges now existed in regiments serving in New South Wales, Van Die men's Land, Corfu. the Canadas, and elsewhere, considered that nothing short of the orders issued by Lord Hill could put an end to the evils of a system which appeared to the committee to prevail to a considerable extent. He should feel it to be his duty to-morrow to lay upon the table the copy of an address to the crown on this subject, of which early next session he should move the adoption by this house. The address would he to the effect he had stated, namely, to pray his majesty to dismiss from his service all persons oho belonged to orange or other societies bound by, secret oaths, qgns. or tokens. (Hear.) Colonel PERCE V said that he concurred in the hope, that the orders lately issued by the Commander-in-Chief would put an end to, and prevent the continuance of, orange lodges in the army, as being prejudicial to the discipline of the service; but he could not go to the extent of the hon. member for Middlesex in thinking that all orangemen, as such, ought to be dismissed from the service of the crown. ( Hear.) The orangemen had now ,no secret signs, oaths, or tokens, for they had all been stated and laid -betnre the committee, and were now in the pos session of the whole country. (Hear.) He was satisfied that the more the orange societies were investigated, the more con stitutional they would be found. The orangemen were bound together solely for mutual protection, the maintenance of the constitution, and of the connexion between Great' Britain and Ireland; and he was yet to learn upon what grounds the hon. member fur Middlesex could justify such a recommendation to the crowu as that which he had just now hinted at. He con ceived the orders issued by the Commander of the Forces not to be confined to orange lodges alone, but to extend to every description of association, and it would, therefore, he well if the hon. member for Middlesex would extend that, research, for which he was proverbial, to an inquiry into the nature, state, and extent of other swieties which tie (Colonel Perceval) could prove to exist in the array, but which had not had the honesty and manliness to come forward as the orangemen had clone with their documents and other information. (Cries of "Name." He would name the society of ribandrnen, which existed in the) army to a very formidable extent—societies bound together by secrecy for the extirpation of all those who were attached to the constitutiou and the throne. There were other political socie ties to which the hon. member for Middlesex would do well to turn his attention. The Anti-TOry Association by its very name . proclaimed itself a political society ; so also the 'Franchise Association; but neither of these had come forward to afford any information. (Hear.) The whole outcry was raised against the orange societies, because it was known that they were based on loyalty and wound up io the constitution of the country. He had on a former occasion stated that he depre cated the existence of regimental lodges, and he begged to add, that in 1812 he had himself eradicated a lodge - from the regi ment he had then the honour to command. But he denied that they now existed to any thing like such an extent as was sug gested in the report. lie could state that the lodge in the 35th Regiment was put an end to while that regiment was stationed in Lancashire, and therefore could not now he in existence, as stated, in Teruplemore. He felt himself called upon to offer these few remaks on the present occasion. Mr. AG 110 N BIT said, that until the report was printed, it was scarcely fitting to enter into a discussion upon its contents. Thus much, however, he must say for himself and every mem ber of the committee, that they were ready to sanction every word which it contained. The house and the country were deeply indebted to the hon. member for Middlesex for the inde fatigable industry and the perfect fairness with which, as chair man, he had conducted the inquiry. (Hear.) • The report was then ordered to tie printed. SITTING OF THE HOVSE. Mr. S. Ring moved that the house at its rising adjourn to Wednesday next.—Agreed to. 'LETTERS PATENT RILL Mr. TOOKE moved the order of th,e d a y for taking into con sideration the lords' reasons for disagreeing In one of the amend ments made by the commons in this bill. The amendment re lated to the reference to the judicial committee of the privy council the claims for an extension of the duration of patents to the inventors. He moved the house do agree to the lords' rea son!. Air. WARBURTON opposed the motion; and After a desultory conversation, in which Sir G. Strickland, Mr. Serjeant Wilde; Dr. Bowring, Mr. D. Callaghan, the At torney-General, Mr. Ewart, and Mr. Wakley, took part, the house divided, when the numbers appeared— For the motion Against it 23 • Majority On the motion of Mr. 1 7 . Baring the lords' amendments on the stamps and assessed taxes bill were agreed to. Mr. HcME• gave notice, that next session he should move a resolution to relieve menibers of that house from ,the payment of fees for the delivery of papers, and from all fees now payable by them to the messengers and porters of this house. Mr. HUME moved that a conference be requested with the other house of parliament on the subject of the resolutions with respect to printing, &c., adopted by this house three days ago. Mr. V. SMITH thought it was too late in the session Co effect any practical result by the communication of these resolutions to the other house, which could do nothing without the report upon which those resolutions were founded. The motion was withdrawn. On the motion of the Attorney-General, the lords' amend ments on the fines and recoveries' bill were agreed to. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the house adjourned at eleven o'clock. • HOUSE OF- LORDS.—ToEstisv. Mr. Bernal and others from the House of Commons brought up a message requesting their lordships to furnish the commons with a copy of the fifth report of the select committee of their lordships on prison discipline. On the motion of viscount DUNCANNON the request was ac ceded to, and the messengers were called in and informed there of by Lord DENMAN. Mr. Bernal and others from the commons brought up the mu nicipal corporations bill, the commons announcing that they did not insist on their disagreement to the recent amendments of the lords on the commons' amendments. They also brought up the duties on glass bill, the letters patent bill, and the mar riage bill, haring agreed to their lordships' amendments in those bills. TITHES' INSTALHENT (IRELAND) BILL. Lord WHARNCLIPPE, after adverting to the circumstances which rendered the introduction of this bill necessary, proceed ed to obseree',that it. was quite impossible to expect that the clergy of Ireland could repay the sum of £650,000, which had been advanced to them. Their situation precluded them from paying it, and the sooner the public mind was made up to the loss of that money the better. The Irish clergy possessed' a tight, a legal right, to claim tithes, and an equally legal right to collect them. .They had never applied for relief; they had only called for that to which they were fairly entitled. 'They had asked for the means of obtaining their - legal rights. They were perfectly justified itv doing this; and he would say that the government were bound In vindicate the law with respect to the rights of the clergy, which they had not done. He felt that it would be an extreme hardship on the Irish clergy if, situate as' they were, the repayment of this money was demanded from them. He could not avoid, before he sat down, expressing the strong feeling which he entertained with respect to the r e sa l e . tionlhat had been agreed to by the other house of parliament, on the subject of the church revenues of Ireland. They had, by their vote on that subject, recognised the extreme prinaiple, that no settlement of the tithe question could ever take place unless the measure introduced for that purpose was connected with an appropriation clause, respecting a supposed surplus of church property. That there was no surplus, that there could be no surplus, if justice were done to the protestant establish ment of Ireland, was perfectly clear. Why, then, should they have so strenuously asserted a mere abstract principle? It was argued, he well knew, that in sonic parishes in Ireland there were no protestants, and that in others there were very fete; but, even admitting this to be the fact, still he would contend that the state of the protestant establishment in Ireland did not justify such a measure as ministers had proposed. Viscount 111.1ti.auctiNs. said he should pass over the obsetva lions made by his noble friend with respect to the bill originally introduced by ministers. He should be very unwilling to advert to it, as the subject had been already discussed in that house. He would merely say, that in bringing it forward the object of ministers vas to carry into effect, as far as they possibly could, their anxious wish to settle the tithe question in Ireland. 'fo the proposition made by his nob!e friend to remit at once the debt due by the Irish elm gy to the public he could not consent. It was stated at the time that the bid Warti introduced for grant ' ing this loan, that it was to be considered as a charge for the maintenance and sustentation of the protestant clergy in Ire land; but it was also distioctly stated that the money so granted should after a certain time he recovered. On that clear and distiuct understanding it was that ministers bad broughtfurward that bill, and on that principle, and no other, parliament had been induced to concur in it. His noble friend . had said, that the sooner the matter was settled, the sooner the acconnt was closed, the sooner the debt was remitted, as there Was no chance of recovering it, why, the better. Now he was quite ready to have done that, if their lordships had agreed to the other bills, and thus made the general settlement of the whole question, which would have been likely to lay the foundation of lasting religious peace in Ireland. This, however, their lordships had not done; and he would risk whether, under these etrcum stances, ministers would be justified now, without considering the peculiar circumstances of different clergymen, in at once remitting this loan? He would ask was it not right to inquite whether clergymen had obtained the means of paying that which had been advanced or not? Could they, in the honest discharge of their duty as ministers—could they, acting in a proper eco nomic spirit, at once, and without any consideration or arrange ment whatever, give up all this money to the clergy of Ireland without any one reason to justify them in taking such a course? His noble friend 'said that the clergy never could pay this mo ney: He did not mean to say that, as to many cases, that might not be the fact; hut he believed that it did not by any means apply to all. It would assuredly be prosper for the government to enforce the claims where it was necessary, but certainly not whe re the justice of the case,-or a sympathetic feeling for the situation of the clergyman, called for forbearance, anil rendered the recovery of such claims ditliculf. His noble friend had gone a little into the general question, and bad consura . the conduct of ministers in office and out of cilice. He 'had can, sured their proceedings in the House of Commons and in that house. He certainly . could nut in any respect agree with his noble friend in the view which he had taken of those proceed jugs. In his opinion the measure which lie had introduced with respect to the Irish church was wise and prudent; and he thought that, if their lordships had agreed to the reasonable reformation of the church establishment in . Ireland which had b,•eu proposed, there would have been, not merely a hope, but a certainty of setilirl: this much-agitated question on a safe and reasonable foundation. Their lordships had, however, viewed the matter in a different lizht; and deeply did he deplore, in common with his noble friend, that the sv.tletrient of this ques tion was left in so uncertain a state. Lord Et.t.HairrortouGn observed, that the course pursued by akinisters had materially impeded the operation of Lord Stan ley's- excellent act.- It had excited the apprehensions of the landlords, who would not advance money to the clergyman, which they feared they never could recover. When he looked to the resolution which was placed on the journals of the other house, he that there was no hope, not the slightest, that thetr lordships could ever agree ts; it. He would :my that that resolution had created a new, an unnecessary, a most unfortu nate obstacle, to that union of public men which the noble marquis ( Lansdowne) and the noble viscount (Melbourne) Must acknowledge to be essential to the public good, because it was essential to the proper government of the country. While that resolution stood, there could not be formed a government equally beneficial to all parties, and firmly determined to do their duty towards all their classes. There was no hope• of it. In saying this, he spoke not of views which he might himself en tertain as a public man, with respect to the operation of that so. much-talked-of appropriation clause. He spoke from feelings of a more general and extended nature. He spoke with refer ence to the feelings—the religions feelings—of a great number of people in this couutry—feelings which rendered it perfectly impossible for them ever to agree to any such principle. (Hear, hear.) How was it possible, he would ask, that the other house of parliament could ever cordially unite with their lordships in legislating upon great national questions, when such a resolu tion as that to which he had adverted stood upon their journals —a resolution which effectually prevented public men„ whose sentiments on many other points might coincide, front uniting together l'he Marquis of WESTMEITII greatly regretted the state of e ntanglement in which th e con d uc t o f ministers had left this important . question. lie attributed to the conduct of ministers, in proclaiming the extinction of tithes, the great cause of the depreciation of property in some parts of Ireland: l'he Marquis of La NsnowNii (who spoke in a voice scarcely audible) said. that with respect to the remission of the loan to the Irish clergy, it was impossible to lay down so general a rule. Some of the clergy might have received the insane of repaying what had been advanced to them, while others could not ' • anti it was certainly necessary that a distinction should be made in those cases. lie, however, could not consent that a very large sum of money should be taken from the pockets of the people of England to support the clergy of the church of Ireland, especi ally as their lordships had rejected a measure which would have gone far to tile.settlement of the tithe question. The noble lord (Eilenhorough) had stated, that while the resolution of the House .uf Cernmons remained, on the journals of that house it was impossible that there - could be a union of public men, for the government of the country. He regretted that any difficulty should be interposed to prevent the union of public men at the present moment ; but he felt himself bound to defend the reso lution of the Souse of Commons, as being perfectly constitu tional. - . . The Earl of RODEN said the clergy of Ireland had not come forward to seek for anything except that which was their own Undoubted right. (Hear, hear.) They were placed in the me lancholy, deplorable, and wretched situation in which they now stood by means of the government itself, which had not asserted the rights and dues of the clergy, and vindicated the insulted law, as they ought to have done. There was not an individual in Ireland who did not know, that at one period the question of tithes might have been easily settled, but this was prevented by the declaration of ministers in the other house,that tithes should be forthwith extinguished. At that time the south of Ireland would have been ready, in a foltnight or three weeks, to pay the tithes that were due; but the declaration of ministers put an end to that state of things. All that was then wanted was, that the government would prove that they were really in earnest —that they were determined to enforce the law. If they had done so, the legislature would not have been placed in their present unnatural situation ; but the noble viscount informed them that government were ready to give up this loan if their lordships would have acceded to the Irish church bill. But neither the clergy of Ireland, nor himself, nor those who took the same view of the subject that he did, would ever consent to receive such a bribe as an inducement which should lead them to desert their duty. They would never, in consequence of any such remittance, allow the alienation of that property which was intended for the support of the protestant faith to the propaga tion of another and a very different faith. He nevcr %mild consent to the alienation of one farthing of that money which be longed to the established church for the purpose of inculcating religious doctrines against which he protested. He had sworn at that table that he believed those doctrines to be erroneous, and, as a consistent man, he never would lend himself to any measure which would assist in their propagation. (Hear.) The bill was then read a third time. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented a petition from the corporation of Yarmouth, thanking their lordships for the al terations which they bad made in the municipal corporations bill. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said he rose to state, on behalf of a noble earl, (Radnor,) that, in what that noble earl had said with respect to Shrewsbury school, when the examination on the subject of the corporation of Shrewsbury was proceeding before their lordships, he had not the least intention of reflects ing on the cheracter or conduct of Mr. Baker.—Adjourned. HOUSE OF LORDS-WED2iESDAY. ROYAL ASSENT. Lord Denman,. the Earl of Shaftesbury, arid Lord Rosslyn attended as his Majesty's commissioners, to give the royal as. sent to the following bills, viz.—the glass dutieS bill, the stamp and assessed taxes bill, the militia staff reduction bill, the Muni cipal corporation bill, the tonnage admeasurement bill, the slave trade (Sardinia) bill, the slave trade (Denmark) bill, the weights and measures bill, the charities commissioners' bill, the poor law act amendment bill, the cruelty #r) animals bill, the lectures' publication bill, the recovery of tithes bill, the tithe of turnips hill, the oaths abolition bill, the land revenue (Scotland) bill, the reform of parliament (Scotland) bill, the savings' hanks (Scotland) bill, the forgeries (Scotland) bill, the imprisonment for debt (Scotland) bill, the • excise incorporation (Scotland) bill, the tithes instalment (Ireland) bill, the sheriffs (Ireland) bill, the Shannon navigation bill, the North American colonial association (Ireland) bill, the Islington market bill, and the Cave-hill and Belfast railway bill. • MnSSAGE FliOM THE COMMONS. Mr. Bernal, and other members, brought up the letters patent bill, and reported that the Commons did not insist upon the amendments; also the fines and recovery bill, the grand juries (Ireland) bill, and the capital punishments bill. The house then• adjourned at ten minutes to four o'clock till to-morrow. HOUSE OF COMMONS—WVDNESDA Y. The house met at three o'clock, but no business of the slightest importance was brought forward. The house was counfell out shortly after the meeting. DREADFUL FIRE IN SACKVILLE-STREET, DUBLIN. About two o'clock on Sunday morning the watchman sta tioned near Carlisle Bridge observed fire issuing from the house of Mr, Fergusson, the perfumer, and he immediately alarmed the inmates, who were buried in sleep, unconscious of their danger. By the time that he succeeded in arousing Mr. Fergusson, the flames had spread with frightful rapidity, and the entire building, and the human beings that it contained, ap peared doomed to destruction. On attempting to make, down stairs at the first alarm, Mr. Fergusson was driven back by the terrific obstacles that opposed his progress. All communication with the lower part of the house was cut off by the fire which had nearly consumed the stairs and rafters that supported the floor of the second story. Plunged into despair by this circum stance, Mr. Fergusson repaired to his bedroom, where his wife and children were assembled, in a state of the greatest distrac tion. They bad _given tip all hope of escape. when Mr. Fer gusson recollected that they could get out on (fie roof of one of the neighbouring houses, by means of a small window which looked out on the parapet. Having placed his wife and children in safety, be returned to his bedroom for his pocket-book, which contained money and bills of exchange to a considerable amount. The flames 'had already reached the room, but he succeeded in securing the pocket-book, and he returned to the window through which his wife and children had escaped. On laying hold of the wood-work of the window, in order to climb. through it, it gave way, and he would have been precipitated through the floor of the room, which, by this time, was nearly consumed, had not. his wire caught him by the collar of his • dressing gown, and in this way sustained him until he had re-. gained his hold. Ho lost his pocket-book while endeavouring to save himself.. The entire family were most providentially saved, but the house and every article of furniture and property which it contained were consumed. EXTRAORDINARY INSTANCE OF YOUTHFUL ENTERPRISE. We have been informed on the best authority of the follow ing instance of youthful enterprise and perseverance. Mr, Charfes HowardAshworth, the fourth sprviving son Of the' late Mr. Ashworth, the barrister, of Manchester, somewhat more than three years ago was *suddenly missed by his fa mily, who heard no tidings of him for several months. Re• taus Oen onlyseventeenlears of azel..and it being known' that he had but si7feyorrunds in his pocket, and the. choleraming : Violently at 'the tune in Liverpool,, where he was la s t' seen, Many fears were entertained that ho bad been hurried off' by that fatal thiorder among strangers, who, for some reason or other, might conceal it from his friends. He was, in the habit, whenever be received fresh pocket money, of travelli ng on foot to every rerriarkable pl ace w ithi n his reac ts, and on Such occa sions need to seek out the cheapest lodgings consistent with cleanliness, in order to make his funds carry him as far as pos sible—this habit would naturally strengthen the possibility of the fate suspected. They still, however, entertained the hope, from a knowledge of his early passion for travel, and of his constant companions, Bruce, Paike, Captain Heed, Lander, and some other worthies, that he might be gone on some long excursion. This at length proved true. A letter was received from the banks of the Missouri, in North America, stating that he had p roceeded so far on his Projected j ourney; but since leaving civilized parts had been utterly without money. He_ has, since,• without the means being afforded his family of sending him any Suppliei, from the utter uncertainty of Ins position at any . given tune, travelled chiefly on f oo t, u p as fat as fort St. Louis, Upper Mississippi,—visited Lake Michigan—joitied tt company of fur traders--passed over the continent of North America—gone down the coast, iu company with a Captain Stewart, for two hundred miles—and embarked front the Mouth of the Columbia, whence he reached Onolulu, one of theSand wieh Islands, in tbe Pacific, and was heard from through the brig Eagle , lately arrived from that quarter. O p one occasion he travelled through an utterly wild and uncultivated country, with only a few poor Indians of the Sioux tribe, on fnut, fur five hundred *miles, dependent on their own resources, even for a meal, and suffered the greatest possible hardships. He says, in the last letter, received by his elder brother, the Rev. T. A. Ashworth, that what are called the savage and blood-thirTty chil dren of the desert, have ever been the most kind to him, and in their wigwams he bas chiefly slept, at their simple board most commonly eaten, and been welcome without itiottey and withciut price; hut that frequently also he has had the wilder ness for his couch, and the desert air for.his supper.—Mcrneltester Herald. CAUTION TO PURCHASERS OF SECOND-HAND CARRIAGES.---. TWO cases of great hardship were decided by the Commissioners of Assessed Taxes at Dolgelley on Tuesday last. Hugh. Jones of Hengwrt Ucha' had purchased a car f r o m Mr. Richards of Caerynwch, upon which a crest was painted, belonging to the la&r, and which had not been obliterated by Mr. Jones, and he was now charged with the duty for using the said crest. The sureeyor Produced 'a case late ly decided by the J u d ges prec i sely in point, and the charge aga inst Mr. Jones wan allaaed. lie very warmly remonstrated against the decision, and. threatened to bring the case before the judges. Lewis Pugh, Esq. of Tyny celin, was also charged for armorial bearings, and it appeared that he had purchassed a second-hand four-wheeled carriage, on wll 7 -11 there was a different crest. The commissioner s dt.cided, on the strength of the case produced by the surveyor, that he also was liable to the duty. We would therefore recommend all persona Who happen be in a similar predicament, to lose no time in erasing the offending crests or coats of arms from their car riage, to save themselves from the tender mercies of the survey ors of taxes.-.-Carnarvan Herald. THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. INQUEST ON THE SON OF MR. STANYNOUGHT, We briefly noticed this melancholy murder in the last Sr Nll.l D. Au inquest was held on the body of the boy on MotidaN. Mr. John Finch, a schoolmaster, and one of the witnesses examined, said that he was sent for by Mr. Stanyuought's shopman. He ran up stairs into the back-room ou the second floor. lie found tha door a little open. He knocked, and Mr. Stanynought, in a very agitated tone, of voice, said, " Don't come ill—pray don't come in. I shall shock you! " These words he repeated several times; upon which he said, "Pray let me come in—are von ill, what is the matter?" He then went in the room, and found him in bed, with his son beside him apparently asleep. He took hint by the hand, and begged hint to tell him what was the matter. He said,'" I can't tell you, I dare not tell :you, I shail shock you so." He entreated him to tell him, than he might relieve him, and asked him if he should fetch a medical man. He said it was of no use, that he had killed his poor boy, that he had wounded himself, and that he was dying. Witness said, " Whom shall I get? " He then pointed to a knife and three letters w,hich lay on a chair, and said that was the knife with w hi c h h e h a d d one t h e deed. He begged witness to take the letters, and give the one to Mr. Barker, the surgeon, and the other to his wife. The moment he saw the knife he snatched it up, and also a razor, and put them both into his pocket. He immediately ran for Mr. Backer, and gave him the letter. The witness produced one of the letters addressed to Mrs. Stanynought, who was from home, which was read by the coroner's clerk. Its contents were as follows : "My dearest Locv,—l pause in my last moments to beg of you not to give way . to despondency. This is the happiest mo ment which I have ever known. My poor little boy is doomed to suffer all the misery of his father, his grandfather, his great grandfather, and•his great-great-grandfather, before him. This has been the chief cause of my misery. I never knew what it was to be happy, but have always suffered from desponding misery. It is my own nervousness, beyond what I ever saw, that has destroyed me beyond redemption; and you never knew the hundredth part of my sufferings. • "Adieu, adieu, my dear, dear wife, - • " H. STANYNOUGHT." The witness ccuitinUed, that Mr. Stanynought was a man of a most extraordinary nervous temperament. The unfortunate man sometimes justified, and then the next moment would la ment what he had done, and exclaim, " How could I do it; how could I kill my poor boy ? " He said he had,,never recovered the death of his poor girl. Witness had hirkself observed a great change in him since that event. His daughter died about four months ago. _ • The jury re — turned a verdict of " Wilful murder," but added that they, entertained a strong belief that at the time of com mitting the. act Mr. Stanynought was labouring under mental delusion. • The death of the boy Stanynought has been followed by the awfully sudden death of a Mr. Bales, an auctioneer, who li ve d next dootto Mr. Stanynought, and had been for many years on very intimate terms with the family of this unfortunate man. lie had gone down to Dartford to bring up a brother.of Mr. Stanynought, and had been so affected and excited by the mur der of the child of his friend, as well as the attempt on his own life, that death was tha consequence. He expired about ten on Sunday morning. An inquest was held on his body on Tuesday. POPERY UNCHANGEABLE. On Sunday last, some male convicts in the gaol of this city who were under orders to be transmitted to the hulk at Kings town, were visited by the officiating presbyterian chaplain, who told them that if they wished to have bibles he would pro cure one for each of them. They gladly accepted his offer, but they were visited next morning by the assistant Roman catholic chaplain, who, being told of the offer made to them com manded them not to take the bibles, and when the presbyterian chaplain brought them on the same day, the Roman catholic prisoners, with but one exception, declined to receive them, alleging, as the reason, that their clergy desired them not to do so. Several of the prisoners, on the morning of their departure for Dublin, were presented with beads and crucifixes instead of God's word. What consolation these unhappy individuals can derive from bits of wood and stone is more than we can deter mine. They may, to be sure, assist the metnery in the repeti tion of a round of prayers, but this we conceive to be the only advantage that can be drawn from th em , wh ere a s , the bible, we are told by inspiration, is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction. for instruction in righteousness. Great and im portant benefits these, more especially when contrasted with the'value of those "dumb idols" that 'have been put into their hands. Mr. Croly cannot persuade us that agnns deis, beads, &e., are considerid by the well-informed of the Romish persua siou as "mere trumpery," when in this instance it is made a substitute for the revealed will of God. Even as a moral pre ceptor, the bible excels any code that has ever been written: it might have reclaimed them from those vices in which they bad previously indulged, and made them the ornaments instead, of the pests of society. The firmness of the prisoner who re fused to part with his bible is much to be admired. He had, probably, learned that at the great day of account he must answer for himself—that his priest will not be his spokesman, and that hie mandate will tint then be put in comparison with the injunction of his omniscient judge, who has said "search the scriptures."—Derry Sentinel. • ARCHERY AND BALL AT HAWKSTONE HALL. (Abridged from the Salopian Aurnal.) The demesne of the splendid mansion at Hawkstone, the scat of our worthy representative, Sir Rowland 11111, Bart. was, on Friday last, the scene of unrivalled gaiety and festivity. On that day, the Society of Royal British Bowmen held their last meeting for the season, their tents being pitched in the Elysian valley between Hawkstone Hall and the Citadel, among the matehless scenery appurtenant to the Red Castle of former times, whose remains overh ang an d ornamen t th e adjacent rucks and cliffs of these magnificent grounds : "This castle stands, on top of rock most hye • A mightie cragge v as hard as flint or steele; A massif, mount, *hose stones so deep cloth lye, That no device may well the bottom feele.". • # • "And as this scate and castle strongly stands, Past winning sure with engine, sword, or hands; So looks it ore the countrey farre or neere,. And shines like torch and lanterne of the sheere." Seven marquees were placed adjacent to the shooting ground, for refreshments, &c., and the society's large tent, with the superb tent of the Royal Horse Guards Blue, were appropriated to the dinner given On this occasion; the whole of the valley being fenced out for the accommodation of the society,. and of the numerous guests invited by Sir Rowland and Lady Hill to participate in the day's entertainment; the shooting butts, tents, &C. were, however, so arranged that the spectators outside the fence could have an uninterrupted view of all the proceedings, A great* concourse of visitors and spectators were in attend ance from every part of the counties of Salop, Stafford, Chester, Flint, Denbigti, and Montgomery. The dinner was served up in the tent of the Royal Horse Guards. A grand ball was given in the evening, rit Hawkstone Hail, by Sir Rowland and Lady Will. THE ARMY.-GENERAL ORDER. His Majesty has been pleased to command that, with a view of doing the fullest justice to regiments, as welt as to indivi duals, who have distinguished themselves by their bravery in action with the enemy, an account of the services of every regiment in the British army shall be published under th e superintendence and direction of the adjutant-general; and that this account shall contain the following particulars, viz.— The period and circumstances of the original formation of the regiment; the stations at which it has been from time to time employed; the battles, sieges, and other military opera tions in which it has been engaged, particularly specifying any achievement it may have performed, and the colours, trophies, &c., it may have captured from the enemy. The names of the officers and the number of non-commis sioned officers and privates killed or wounded by the enemy, specifying the place and date of the action. The names of those officers who, in consideration of their gallant services and meritorious conduct in engagements with the enemy, hare been distinguished with titles, medals, or other marks of his Majesty's gracious favour. The names of all such non-commissioned officers and pri vates as may *have specially signalised themselves in action; and The badges and devices which the regiment may have been permitted to bear, and the causes on account of which such badges or. devices, or any other marks of distinction, have been granted. _ _ By command of the Right Hon General Lord Hill, Commanding-in-Chief, JOHN MACD6NALD, Adjutant-General. Hone Guards, 1835. NARRIAGES IN HIGH LIFE. • Married, by special license, on Tuesday, the Ist instant, it Chevening. the Lord Bishop of Rochester, the Right Hon. Lord Suffield, to the Hon. Charlotte . Susanna Gardner ; only daughter of the late, and sister to the present Lord Gardner. The Hon. T. N. Barnewall, only son of Lord Trimlestown, ia-sai,l to he on the point of being united to Miss Roche, sister Of the present Lady Louth, and daughter 'of the late- Philip Roche, Esq., by th e H on . A nne Plunkett,. sister of the present Lord Dunsany. The Hon. Mrs. Roe.ho has since ' married Captain Ryder Burton, son of the late BishOp of Killala. On Saturday mornin g the a lli ance b etween the . noble families of Griniston and Craven took place, at the magnificent seat of the Earl of Verulam, Gorhatnbury, near Hertford. The Earl Craven led to the hymeneal: altar the Lady Emily Grimston. The ceremony was performed by the Very ReV. tike pean' of Carlisle, after which, in a splendid new travelling carriage, the happy couple proceeded to the bridegroom's seat in Berkshire. A sumptuous dejeune was given, and in the evening a grand dinner, to which were invited the Duke of Wellington,-N.lar quis and Marchioness of Salisbury, Countess of Bridgewater, &c. &c. Saturday morning the Hon. Charlotte Stuart. daughter of Lord Stuart de Rothesay, was led to the . hymeneal altar by the Hon. Charles John Canning, youngest son of the late Right Hon. George .Canning. The ceremony was performed in the church of St. Mattin's-in-the-Fields, by the Very Rev. the Dean of Windsor. Amongst the company present, were Lord and Lady Stuart De Itothesay, the Duke of Portland, and Lady Arabella Bentinck, the Marquis and Marchioness of Clan ricarde, the Marquis of Douglas, Earl Cadogan, Br.c. Sot:Tit WA awiciantaE.—The destructives have been at their dirty work again! Not content with. having placed' on the register a number of fictitious votes (which we are happy to say have all been objected to by the conservatives, and will be expunged on the revision 'of the lists) they have most vexati ously objected to a host of good conservative votes, in the vain hope that many of the parties will not put themselves to the trouble and expense of appearing before the barristers to sub stantiate their claims. But we can tell the Whig radicals that they will to a man appear, and we can further inform them that some of the parties objected to, (namely, those in a hum ble station in lif e, ) although conservatives at heart, would at the next election have given one vote to the destructive candi date, for the sake of keeping Friendly with both parties, whereas, now they will vote for two conservative candidates; and, be-. sides this abominable and unprincipled course of proceeding will have the effect of driving from the ranks of the destructives many st raightforward and good-meaning men, who have hitherto supported that cruse rime plinciple; so that the before well ascertained majority in favour of two conservatives at the next election will now he.very considerably increased. Verily, whigi and radicals, we thank ye for fighting our hattle.—Nurtliamptuti Herald. It is related of the c , dehrated Lord chesterfield, that he once said to a friend that. whenever he went to the opera, he left his reason along with his hat, to the care of the door-keeper, and gave himself up. entirely to his sense of hearing. DEATH OF PAGANINI.—A letter was yesterday received in London coni , eying the mournful intelligence of the death of this celebrated violinist at Genoa. He died of the chokra, which is raging with unusual virulence at that place. The at tack was eery sudden, and poor Paganini expired after a few hours of extreme suffering.—Sunday parr. DONCASTER ST. LEGER. Doncaster, Wednesday Morning, Two o'clock The ititerest connected with the decision of this great race continues to increase on all bands; and it will prove a greater sporting race than has been lately witnessed. The following have already arrived, and may be seen ou the ground every morning :—The Queen of Trumps, Preserve, Amurath, Cres cent, Do Roos, and Equator. The Queen took her sweat on Monday, an went four miles at a rattling rate, and with appa rent ease. She is as tine a three-year-old filly as was ever seen, and is a remarkably good-tempered creature. The utmost care is taken of her. In her slow paces her action approaches to the appearance of a slight lameness; but when she is put out it is perfect; A report was prevalent here on Sunday morning that she had been sold. This is false. Blinkhorn, the trainer re ceived a letter . frout Mr. Mostyn desiring him to wh o lly disre gard all idle rumours which might prevail on that score, and to test _perfectly satisfied that she should not be sold J r any money until after the lace, and that no deception shoul d - be shown to wards the public. Preserve also looks well : she is also a fine filly, and has done her work we... It is very probable that the Queen will be sit the'top of the betting befole.the time of start ing; although the friends of Mundig are very sanguine that he will, after all, prove the victor. He is certainly a fine stoat horse, and so far ati traiping goes, nothing will be spared; be sides, he will have the advantage of freshness in every respect, as he is close at hand, (though not in town,) and will not be ex potted to the disadvantage of travelling. The whole of the atten tion appears to turn upon the four first favourites, the Queen, Mundig, Ascot, and Pratterye, and it seems extremely improba.: ble that we shall he Touchstoned this year. The outsiders will have little or no chance, barring accident, against the first and second for the Derby, and the same for the Oaks. The arrival of other horses was'prevented yesterday by •tlie falling of heavy rain, which, by the` way, is all the better for the Queen, as the the course will be in a state • more favourable for her. Every accommodation is making in the town and upon the ground and the approaches to it, for the comfort and accoinmodation.of the visitors, and an extremely splendid week ruay be expected. The Princess Victoria and her numerous suite will be present on the St. Leger day. They will arrive here from Wentworth, whither they will proceed after the York festival. The Duke of Nemours will also be present, in addition to a host of the nobility. This morning the weather is beautifully fine and fresh after the rain: In short, every thing bids fair for a week of extraordinary at traction, interest, and splendour,—particularly to the lover of the old English custom of horse-racing,—a finer specimen of which was never seen than that which will be witnessed this year in every pointof view The firstentry is for the Free Handicap of 15 sous each, 5 ft, with 25 added; the second horse'to' receive 25 soya. One mile. . _ . 1 -4on'sßirdlitne. 4 yrs, Bst 31b • Duke of dleveltiud's6lith, 4 y rs, st 121 b • Mr. Marson's Crbline, 3 yrs, sst7lb kIEATON PARK RACES. FIRST DAY. t, The Heaton Park Stakes of 2,5 . sous. each,ls R. One mile and a half. Lord Chesterfield's Glaucus, 5 yrs, 9st 9lb Mr Heseltine's Physician, 6 yrs, 9st 51b, Mr Arnold names Independence, aged, Bst 71b Count Matuschewitz names Prince, 6 yrs, Bst 21b Lord R. Grosvenor names Lady Le Gros,4 yrs, 7st 91b Mr 's Patrick, 4 yrs, 7st 91b Mr Lacey's Frantic, 4 yrs, 7st 4th Mr Hobson's Whitefoot, 4 yrs, 7st 31b Mr J. H. Peel's Peregrine Pickle, 6 yrs, 7st Mr R.. Turner's Fearnhurst, 4 yrs, 7st Lord Chesterfield's Griselda, 3 yrs, Est 51b Mr Barrow's b c by Langar, 3 yrs, 6st 31b Mr Osbaldeston's t' by Humphrey Clinker, 2 yrs, a feather EPSOM OCTOBER MEETING, 1835. FIRST DAT. Sweepstakes of 20 sovs each, 10 ft, with 10 added, for two-year olds. New 'f.Y.C. Sir J. Heathcote's Willesden Lord Egremont's br c by Chateau Margaux Mr Latour's Queen of Navarre, SECOND DAY. The Surrey Stakes of 20 sovs each, 10 ft, and only 5 if declared on or before the Ist inst. ' with 25 added. Derby Course. Mr Goring' s Bentley, 4 vrs, Bst 91b Mr Gopp's Kate,.6 yrs, Bst 31b Mr Dockeray's ['bolus, 4 yrs, 7st 101 b Mr Wickhain's Nat herideu, 3 yrs, 6st 91b GRAND SHOW . OF DAHLIAS AT 'THE ZOOLO, GICAL GARDENS. " Tell them that brave it most, , "•Tikey beg for more by spending : Who in their greatest cost, " Seek nothing but commending. • • ' " And if they make reply,. . • " Then give them all the lie. TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STAYD/IRD - - Sta,—The foregoing lines from that quaint, but singularly beautiful poem. entitled "The Soul's Errand," written in 1593, involuntarily occurred to my recollection after perusing the' following paragraph in a Liverpool paper of this day : " It will be seen by the advertisement, that a grand show of dahlias will take place at the Zoological Gardens on Monday and Tuesday, the 21st and 22d instant, the prizes being given by the spirited proprietor." Now, sir, I am a plain man, and have been accustomed frOm my childhood to call things by their right names. "I call a nettle but a nettle, and the faults of fools but folly." By the same tole, Lconsider a thing given to be a gift. It may be a donation bestowed from humane or philanthropic. .motives, or it may be intended as a bribe, to obtain some ulterior advan tage; but in either case, it is a thing presented altogether free of cost or expense to the receiver. In the present instance, it is to be presumed, from the terintspiritsd being applied to the donor, that the gifts or prizes advertised to be given are in tended as rewards, or stimuli, to spirit, (i. e., animate, excite,) a frugal and industrious class of men, viz., the working gar- deners, or, if the phrase be More agreeable to your readers, the practical horticulturists. But, sir, we live in an age of cant; turn where we may it meets us on all sides—cant mord,, cant political, cant philan thropical. And I shall have little difficulty in .dentonitrating, to •the entire satisfaction of yourself, and all who take in inte rest in such matters, that this affair of the' dahlia show is a fair specimen of What may be called the cant horticultural; or. in other words, a palpable job, calculated only to advance the interests of the advertiser.. Referring, then, to the advertised scheme, the grand prize, a silver cup, value six guineas, is to be awarded to the exhibitor of the best pan of dahlias containing 94 blooms; 'for the second best pan of 24 blooms, a prize of . one guinea; for the third, a prize of ten shillings and sixpence. These constitute the first class. Then follows, for the best pan of 12 bloonis,-one guinea; fur the 2d, fifteen shillings; for the 3d, ten and sixpence; for the best pan of 6 blooms, fifteen shillings; for theld, ten and sixpence; for the 3d, five shillings, &c., &c. All - this sounds well, and appears fair, with the exception, perhaps, of the sud den depreciation iu the value of the first class prizes, viz., from six guineas to one; but, undoubtedly, the donor has a right to exercise his own discretion on the subject. It seems, however. that in liberal horticultural, as in political schemes, "the tail" occupies an important place, and exerts an extensive and mor bific influence. In a sort of postscript appended to the adver tisement, the donor, I beg his pardon, the spirited donor, adds, the subscription, (the money necessary to be paid to enable a hard-working gardener to exhibit the•truits . of his WHO " the subscription is to be regulated according to the number of blooms shown in each pan: Ist class of 24 blooms ; -twenty-four shillings; (! !! ) 2d class of 12 blooms, twelve shillings; and so on, at the rate of one shilling for each bloom." So that after the loss of time, and consequentiv of money, attendant on journeying to and from the place of exhibition, (where, by the 'way, all flowers exhibited must remain for two days to gratify the pub lic, attracted to the spot by this additional incitement,) the gardener must still, before he can stage his flowers, and place himself in- a position to contend for the first class of prizes, submit to pay.the monstrously disproportionate sum of one pound four shillings! and a sum equally disproportionate, if he wish to obtain any of the inferior prizes; in some instances. equivalent to the value of the prize itself! not to speak of the proprietor himself being an extensive cultivator of fbr his own with every advantage in his farour. Nor is this all. Supposing but five persons enter for the first class of prizes, their united subscriptions will equal the value, and consequently corer the expense if the silrencup given by the spirited proprietor! With respect to the other prizes, a moment's attentive consideration of the scheme will enable the most obtuse individual to detect its real character. Verily, "the liberal doth indeed devise liberal things!" Call it a lottery, a little-go, or any name deelaratory or sig nificant of the spirit in which it was conceived;or the object, or purpose which it was intended to realize; but for the love of truth, of justice, of common honesty, let us beafiao more of it under the specious designation of prizes given by the spirited :proprietor of the Zoological Garden, for the encouragement and reward of persevering industry.-1 am, &c:.• A FRIEND TO HORTICULTURIS.TS, BUT AN ENEMY TO CANT. AND lIIMBUG. Aigbarth, September 5, 18.3"). (We insert the above in conformity with our rulenf hearing all parties within the limits of moderation; but we •do not con- - cur with our correspondent in 'his censures upon Mr. Atkins, to whoinvf a think the inhabitants of Liverpool, are indebted for one of the most pleasant and inserestiog_risorts .i in or abont'the to wn.—Eii.j • TIII; EDITOR OF TIIR LIVERPOOL ST.,IND4RI), Stn,—As an elderly female was passing down Maryhone on Friday evening last; between seven and eight o'clock, a lad about IS years of age came up to her, and shook her in such a manner that she has been confined to her bed since. She had in her hand a small reticule, which ho wanted to get hold of. She called out for assistance to two gentlemen, (if they can be called gentlemen,) but they passed on without taking the least notice. But she has nut been the only one, for a few days be fore a Similar case happened to another lady, no. police or watch man being anywhere to be seen. If this should meet the eye of unrmagistrate, I hope and trust he will exert his authority to maintain the public peace. By inserting the above in your valuable paper, yen will con fer arfavour on yours, truly, A FRIEND TO THE PUBLIC. Liverpool, 9th September, 1835: PENSIONS AND PEER A G ES.-- Mr. Hampden, grandson of John Hampden, contributed much 'to the seating of William 111, on the throrte of these realms, and was offered, through Archbishop Tillotson, either a peerage or a pension. To the first he answered, that, he would die as be was—a country gen tleman of an ancient family, which was honour enough for him." To the second he said, he would not take the king's money and the king's servants want bread. He always spoke against giv ing pensions to others, and at such a time as this it was oppres sion. While he had a roll and a can of beer he would not take the king's money." ANECDOTE OF Loan Exstorru.—The water was a natural element to him, and he often amused himself in a manner which, to one less expert, would have been attended with the utmost danger. He would sometimes go out in a boat, and ()vet set her by carrying a press of sail. These, and similar acts of daring, mast find their excuse in the spirit of a tearless youth. But he often found the advantage of that power and self-possession in the water which he derived front his early habits, in saving men who had fallen overboard, and especially in the happiest of all his services, his conduct at the Dutton.. More than once, how ever, he nearly perished. In Portsmouth harbour, where he had upset himself in a boat, he was saved with difficulty, after remaining for a considerable time in the water. On another oc casion, be was going by himself-from Falmouth to Plymouth in a small punt, fourteen feet long, when his hat was h!own over hoarkand he immediately threw off his clothes and swum after it, having first secured the tiller u-lee. As he was returning with his hat, tiv? boat got way on her, and sailed some distance before she came up in the wind. lie had almost reached her when site tilled again, and he was thus baffled three or four times At length, by -a desperate effort, he caught the rudder, but he was so much exhausted,.that it was a considerable time before he had strength to get into the . boat::—Prom, Oster's We of Lord Ea-mouth. SEPTBNIBEIt 11, 183;1.1). MONTREAL PAPERS. Captain Dunlop, R.N. , has been e l ec t e d me mb er o f th e Up per Canada Parli a m e nt fo r the county of Huron. He was op piled by Mr. Von Eg4iond, who is represented as professing liberal principled, and who, moreover, recommended himself to the, electors as possessing a medal of the legion of honour, which be lad obtained from Napoleon. After two days polling, at the close of which Captain Dunlop bad obtained fifty-nine votes, and Mr. Egmond only two, the latter gentleman deemed it pru dent to decline a farther contest. It is, perhaps, worthy of remark, that the hottest day expe rienced in Montreal, last summer, was the 25th July, the mer cury having indicated a temperature of 99 at four o'clock in the evening in the shade. On the same day this year, and at the same hour, it stood at 75, having been 24 lower. Last Friday, the 24th, was the hottest day we had this summer, the mercury having stood at 91, at three o'clock in the afternoon in thy shade. TO CORRESPONDENTS, 0* friend at Doncaster is thanked. ' Sunday's post will suit better than Monday's. " Jos " is generous, and his motives are charitable, but he must have patience. We have received about a score of letters about the pictures in the Liverpool Exhibition, all of which we have consigned to the flames. Our second notice will appear soon enough. The anxious people who write as on this subject must be immense spoons. "A Poolt TAYLOR," on the price of bread, will not he forsotten. The greatest cheats in that article are the radical balers, al we shall prove on an early day. Our commissioners are at work. We have already on our list upwards of fifty flour sleeved patriots who daily and hourly rob the poor! LIVERPOOL ANNUAL EXHIBITION, POST-OFFICE-PLACE, CH C H-S MEET TIFIHE Eleventh ANNUAL EXH ITION.arAbe WORKS . I_ of MODERN ARTISTS is ow OPEN, and will con tinue each day, from Nine in the rning until Dusk. ' • SAM L. EGLINGTON, ecretary to the Academy - . Admission, One Shilling; Ca ogee, One Shilling. Season Tickets, Five Shillings. Exhibition-rooms, disgust 24, 1835. • Zbe tibtrpool ,%tanbarb. FRIDAY MORNING, SEPTEMBER 1 , 1835. We have been favoured with Caracas papers to the middle of July, and a private fetter from Pudrto Cabello, dated the Ist August. The republic of Veneiuela is restored, and the laws and constitution which had been superseded by a band of military usurpers are now placed on their former footing. This has been accomplished by the bravery and judicious counsels.of'General PAEZ, and; we are happy to say, without bloodshed. The following extract from the private letter above alluded to describes the events very graphically in a few words:— " PUERTO CABELLO, 19L August, 1835. "As was anticipated, General Paez took up the cause of the 'constitution and President Vargas with great alacrity. " lie immediately got together 800 cavalry on the plains, marched on Valencia, which gave in at once, as well as all the towns to Caracas, before which he arrived on the evening of the 27th, and instantly summoned , the refractory to • surrender "at discretion ; they gathered their straggling force together and left the city that night, taking a by-road towards the east; next morning Paez entered at six o'clock, and was hailed with great joy, and went into every street, cheering and calling out ' Viva la Constitution ! Viva President Vargas !' He stopped only an hour, and then went after the fugitives. " This I call the revolution of twenty days, and has ended without bloodshed so far. Whether the ringleaders will be pu nished or not remains to be seen. This I think will be the last attempt of the military to gain the ascendancy ; and I am of opinion that the country will ho more firmly consolidated than ever it was before. Paez has gained great renown by the deter mined manner in which he has acted, and will always be looked up to as the preserver of the country. " It is said thatcongress will be called together immediately." The following is the address of General PAEz : " JOSE ANTONTn PAEZp Cimmander-in-Chief, &c. &c. • • 41 VgINF.ZITELTANS, "The - 20th day of January of the present year I resignaci to the nation the power vested in me in the year ISSI. " Having completed my' term of service as president of th. republic and the wishes of my heart, I remained happy, because you endeavoured to persuade me int., the belief that I, during my administration, strived for the happiness and preservation of the republic and the prosperity of its inhabitants. " Once freed from the cares and responsibility of the first magistracy of the state, I retired, seeking rest from former fa tigues, when during a state of the greatest tranquillity I received the heart-rending news of the publication Made in Caracas on the Bth instant by some military chiefs, and of the overthrow of the' government. " At the same time I received an authorization from 11. E.,. the president of the republic, in concurrence with the advice of the council, to raise an army of ten tliou9and men, to place asy self at their head, and re-establish the constitutional order. " Large bodies of the people have since called upon me for the same object, and the government and a considerable number of my old coMpanioni in arms have flown to my side, and made offers which iecominentied these brave men to the gratitude of the nation. " In so critical a situation, Venezuelians, I have not for one. moment hesitated in the couitse that I should pursue. "As head of the state in IMO I directed the constitution to be. fulfilled and obeyed ; and as constitutional president in 1811, I renewed the oaths of fulfilling and executing it ; it is therefore my duty to sustain this code, and to do this I will spare no sacri fice, even to that of my existence. " If a reform of the constitution he the wish of the people, the means of obtaining it are pointedout. " It is not possible to tolerate that the voice of two hundred armed men should snatch that which ought to be sought for and obtained by pacific means, and Its becoming a civilized people who are governed by laws and a constitution. "Unhappy Venezuela if she for a moumzt shan't(' recognise the fatal principle evinced by the revolt of the Bth instant.. I have resumed my sword with the hopes of not raising it against my fellow-countrymen. "'Those who have committed themselves ought to he open In the voice of reason, and not overvihelm with affliction a cenntry that wished only for order, tranggillity, and peace. " I rely on the necessary resources to sustain the army, r►rr the valour of my companions in arms, and on the patrieliern of the people. •' God forbid that I should be obliged to draw my sword ; but should it 'be necessary I will do my duty, and those who are deaf to the voice of the country, have persisted in carrying on designs that can never be realised, will be responsible for the blood that may be shed. . " Veneznelians ! I am in the midst of you to defend your rights and rescue ;he republic from the perik that threaten it. Head-quarters, San Pablo, 15kh July, 18.15. " (Signed) " JOSE ANTONIO PASZ." In addition to the information contained in the extract of the letter from Puerto C / abello, we learn by advice received from La Guayrathat His Excellency General VON SCHOLTEN, Governor-General of the vanish West India Islands, had, upon thefirstintelligence of the revo lution, seut a Danish brig of war to - La Guayra, with instructions to _the captain to •place himself under the controul of our respected Wit.r,ro7 Aesslt". Esq., whom he at the same time honoured with the al ,- pointment,of Danish Reptesentative in Venezuela. Thi4 vessel remained at La Guay . ra until the 30th Jody, when the revolution being Conslflered as entirely suppressed, of the most influential of the inhabitants of Caracis,ivere deputed by General Paux and the inhabitants generally , to proceed to Saint Thomas to bring back the President VaauAs and Vice-President NARVARTE, wbo had been forcibly. sent off by the insurgents, took their passage 0 0 board of the Danish brig of war, which immediately got under weigh. The federal union of the United State* of Amerie 3 may now be considered on the point of dissolution. Save of the ablest men who joined in the first revolni ionarY struggle were opposed to the continuance of slavery, 01 predicted that it would,•in the course of even t s , be the means of destroying the - republic. These, events are a t present in active and fearful operation. Th e more men l has begun—a cry has been raised against slavery--th at terrible engine, the press, is in full play, and nothing can save the southern states from insurrectioaand ruin bu t their immediate separation from the northern states. We have upon our table books, papers, and pamphlet`' of all sorts and sizes, which have all been started in re ; T e rence to this great que s ti on , an d t h e exc i temen t 0 1, fear they have created ar e o f a na t ure w hi c h mus t leg either to the titter extinction 'of the very name of liberty in one large section of America, or to a sanguinary ci vil war. The anti-slavery society of New York are pout-jog their popular publications upon the devoted slave o wner s ' and ,these, in their defence, are resorting to arbitr3ry measures, which evince as much madness as their 01 9 1 1° ; nents are said to do of fanati c ism. F or i ns t a nce, Anti-slavery Record is a pamphlet of sixteen 7 pages' I „ lustrated by wooden cuts, in which the " man stealers', and "stave dealers," as they a're called, are exhibited ' p the the most revolting pOint . of view. This is *sold at 'll 1