Northern Times. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-06-12 00:00:00

)oci - Yownla FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. FRANCE. PARIS, WEDNESDAY EVENING. The Moniteur announces that M. Abbatucci, Minister of Justice, will replace M. Achille Fould, in his function of Minister of State, during the temporary absence of the latter. M. Fould has already left for England, where he is attracted by the Manchester Exhibition. _ _ _ The Ultramontane - party has, through the Uni vers, leelared itself in favour of an active inter ference in the elections. This decision is com municated to the public by that paper in an article which is amusingly cynical ; it states that principles have nothing to do with the electoral question, that Catholics voted under Louis Philippe and the Re public and that nothing prevents them from voting under the present rule. The party in question binds itself to no particular opinion or name; it will vote for the candidate who promises the most for the prosperity of the Church. The Republican Corn mittee is active in despatching circulars of an inof fensive nature to the provinces:; but, I beg once more to repeat, it has not fixed on any definitive list for Paris. The Orleanist party has held seve ral meetings at the residence of M. de Saoy, chief editor of the Debats, and several candidates, former deputies to the Chamber in the days of Gnizot and Thiers, will be brought forward in districts where they can command local influence. A. considerable body of workmen are out on strike at Puteaux and St. Denis, and a strong body of gendarmerie has been stationed at those localities. A reduction of wages is the cause of the strike. ®Accounts trom Soleure state that the govern ment of that Canton has appointed a commission to inquire into the cause of the terrible accident in the tunnel of Hanenstein. All the dead bodies of the unfortunate workmen have been, now recovered. An impression prevails in Switzerland that some of the victims had expired only two days before the removal of the ruins of the crumbled tunnel, and a horse that has been found killed and partly con sumed strengthens that belief. But it is scarcely probable that human beings could have so long re sisted the influence of the deadly gases which filled the tunnel, and the above statement must be received with discredit. Intelligence from Madrid acquaints us that the fact of . Queen Isabella being enceinte will be offi cially made known next week. Her delivery is expected in the middle of October. The religious journals are filled with glowing descriptions of the journey of the Pope through his dominions, but they are silent on an incident which occurred at Loretto. The faithful population flocked to meet the Holy Father in that town, and a grand religious ceremony - which took place proved most successful. After the ceremony pieces of paper were thrown amongst the crowd and increased the delight of the latter, . The good people were under the impression that the papers thrown about with so open a hand were orders for bread, or for small sums of money ; they consequently struggled and fought for the same with the enthusiasm of cru saders. But, to the infinite horror of the suc cessful individuals, the papers turned out to be nothing but indulgences. The enthusiasm trans formed itself into disrespect, and shouts, accom . panied with hisses, assailed the Pope, who speedily withdrew. THE FRENCH ELECTIONS. The following is the latest list of the Opposition candidates for Paris, and for which the electors will be asked to vote:—First electoral district—M. Laboulays, member of the academy, and one of the editors of the Journal des Debate. Second.—M. Bethmont, former minister under the republic. Third—General Cavaignac. Fourth.—M. Emile 011ivier, advocate. Fifth—M. Carnot, minister under the repnblic. Sixth.—M. Goudchaux, ditto. Seventh.—M. Darimon, editor of the Presse- Eighth.—M. Vavin, former representative of the people.' Ninth.—M. Fade Lasteyrie, ditto. Tenth. M. Regnault, former sub-prefect of Sceaux• The above list would in some measure confirm the rumours current for the last fow days of a tempo rary fusion between certain of the Orleanist and Republican leaders. • - TURKEY. CONSTANTINOPLE, Jur; 1. In connection with the firman for convoking the - divans ad hoe in the Danubian Principalities, the Porte has invited to a common deliberative council the representatives of the Powers that signed the Treaty of Paris. They have sat three times at the Porte on this matter, and there were present—for England, Lord Stratford de Redcliffe ; for France, M. Thouvenal ; for Russia, M. Bouteneiff ; MM. Prokesch Osten and Gundlach for Austria and Prussia respectively; and General Durando for Sardinia; Turkey being represented by the Grand Vizier himself, Redschid Pach, and Ali Ghalib Pacha, the Minister of Foreign Affairs. Nothing certain is known beyond the fact that the debates have been very animated. Some pre tend that the French Ambassador, M. Thouvenel, presented to the council the ultimatum of his government upon the question of the Principalities, which was expressly in favour of the union. Others say that Lord Stratford spoke very energetically against the scheme, and was supported by Prokesch Osten, the Austrian internuncio, and then finally by the Sultan's alter ego, Redschid Pacha. In fact, it is asserted in certain quarters that Turkey is so excited against the French scheme of the Union, that she would rather begin a new war than give it her consent. SPAIN The Madrid papers of the 6th have arrived in due course, A deputation of the Congress had pre sented to the Queen the address in answer to the speech from the throne, and her Majesty replied to it as follows : Gentlemen and deputies,—l have heard the message of the Chamber of Deputies with the greatest pleasure, as the elevated and patriotic sentiments which it expresses are in perfect harmony with those which fill my heart and animate my government. I render thanks with all my heart to Divine Providence for this complete accord be tween the crown and the Cortes, which I am most anxious to preserve. As long as a similar conformity of noble and generous thoughts shall exist between the legitimately constituted powers, we may expect the felicity, the glory, and the prosperity which I so ardently pray God to grant to the beloved people whom be has placed under my sceptre and my maternal solicitude. The prorogation of the Cortes would, it was said, take place between the 20th of this month and the beginning of July. On the prorogation Marshal O'Donnell intended to visit Catalonia, and after. wards to go abroad till the winter ' • General Dulee also intended goin g to the Basque provinces, and afterwards to Germany. NAVIL AND MILITARY. The Commissioners on Military Education have recommended a building to be constructed at Woolwich, for the purpose of carrying on the sand modelling system of instruction w hi c h was adopted at Addiscombe some fifteen years ago, and which has been practised ever since with complete success. We are informed that his Royal Highness the Commander-in-Chief has signified. his intention of visiting Addiscombe, that he may be able to form a correct judgment of the import ance of the suggestion by personally inspecting the models now ready for exhibition on the 12th instant, and which are said to convey A( faithful representation of the fortifications on br:Ah banks of the Rhine in the vicinity of CoUentz, includ ing the far-famed " Ehrenbrei_':-stein.' On Wednesday there n.-,.rived at Aldershott, from Gibraltar, via Port:smouth, the 96th Regiment, consisting of 19 officers and 724 men, under the command of Colonel Scovell, an d two squadrons ' of the .Ist (King's) Dragoon Guards from Exeter The remainder of the regiment is to follow irn tnediately._ - The half-yearly general inspection of the Royal Marine Corps is ordered to take place on Tuesday, the 16th instant, at Woolwich. Major General Sir W. Fenwick Williams, senior officer commanding w ill inspect the troops, and will after the garrison, wards be entertained at the mess dinner of the corps. -~r~ IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. By British and Irish Magnetic Telegraph. HOUSE OF LORDS.—THErRaDAY. The House met at five o'clock. CAMPBII4//8 DrVORCIL Campbell's Divorce Bill was read a third time and passed. SMOKE NIIISA?iCIC IN SCOTLAND. Lord limnlao moved the second reading of the Smoke Nuisance Abatement (Scotland) Bill. Lord CAMPBELL in support of the measure, referred to the beauty of Edinburgh, and at the same time to the pre valance of the smoke nuisance in that city, which had obtained for it the respective name of tha Modern Athens, and "Auld Reekie.' After a short conversation the bill was read a second time. _ _ The Cinque Ports Act Amendment Bill went through committee. BREACHES OF TRUST. Lord ST. LEONARD'S drew attention to the state of the law in equity, charging trustees with Breaches of Trust, and proposed an amendment for the relief of trustees acting bona fide and without any benefit to themselves— under the present law, in the case of a loss by a trust being employed, the loss fell upon the trustees, while any gain by transaction went to the im provement of the trust. It was this injustice with which he proposed to deal, and he laid on their lordship's table a bill upon the subject. Lord CAMPBELL and Lord BROUGHAM approved of the principle of the measure. The bill was read a first time, and, at the suggestion of the Lord Chancellor, the second reading was postponed till the Attorney-General's report, relating to the breaches of trust, came up from the House of Commons. The house adjourned at half past seven. HOUSE OF COMMONS-THURSDAY. - The SPRAILIBB took the chair at four p.m. . VACCINATION BILL. The Vaccination was brought in by Mr. T. Dancombe and read a first time. , INDIAN REGIMXNTS. In reply to Mr. Rich, Mr. V. SMITH explained that the additions to the regiments of India since 1853 were one captain and ot e lieutenant to the Sepoy regiments, and two captains and two lieutenants to European regiments. With reg , rd to the check to be put upon officers leaving the army for civil employment, the Court of Directors had now under consideration a despatch to be submitted to the Board of Control, by which officers would derive similar advantages by remaining with their regiment as were offered by the Civil Service. By a recent regulation Queen's officers were capable of being appointed to the company's staff appointments. He was not aware that any complaint had been made of the condition of native officers regarding the opening of promotion to the rank of native officers at a shorter period nothing had been done. The service was a seniority service, and no change had been made since the Act of 1853. In the Bombay Presidency more were made from merit than in other Presidencies, an i it might be a question for consideration whether that system should be extended. If the questions of the hon. member alluded to the disaffection of the troops in India, he would not add that there was no reason to believe that that disaffection was owing to the absence officers, and he hoped the public would be under no alarm upon the subject, for the promp titude and decision displayed on the recent occasion by the Governor-General, and the eloquent speech of General Piercy in disbanding the 19th Regiment, had been of effect in restoring tranquillity, and he was certain the same spirit would operate in any emergency for the future. In reply to a further question from Mr. Rich, Mr. V. SMITH sta ed that the increase of officers was irrespestive of the increase in the number of men. THE NEW INSURANCE BILL• In answer to 3lr. Sheridan, Mr. WILSON said he expected to be able to introduce his bill on the subject of Insurance Institutions, in the course of next week. He took the opportunity of announ cing his intention upon the first vote of the Civil Service Estimates to-morrow, of making a general statement as to the nature and causes of the increase of charges under these estimates since 1852. FAIRS AND MARKETS (IRELAND) BILL. In answer to Mr. Sullivan, The ArroRNBY GENZELL for Ireland said that the Secre tary for Ireland would probably be in his place on Monday, and would then state whether the Fairs and Markets Bill relating to Ireland would be introduced. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. The report of the Committee of Supply, in consequence of the absence of Lord Palmerston, was postponed till to-morrow. THE DUCHY OF LANCASTER, Mr. Wise drew attention to the accounts of the Duchy of Lancaster, presented to Parliament, in pursu ince of the Act 1 and 2 Vic., Cap., 101, and moved an address for a return of all manors and estates now belonging to the crown, in right of the Duchy of Lancaster, of all sales, grants, and enfranchise ments which had taken place since 1838 ; of the pur chases and exchanges of land which had been made since the same period ; and the date and term cf all existing leases of the lands, mines. and rents of the said Duchy. The hon. member stated that the revenues of the Duchy were eaten up by burdens, and only existed on paper. During the last nineteen years, the total revenues were £722,960 of which only £251,000 went to the privy purse, and the out-goings were 1 171,960. Last year the receipts were £41,048, of which £20,000 went t - ) the privy purse. There were sixty officers receiving £8,527, of which the Chancellor took £2,000 a year ; the Vice-Chancellor, £6OO ; the Receiver-General, £B7B ; and the remainder included to two attornies, fifteen receivers, and twenty-two stewards.He condemned the mismanagement of the pro perty, and appealed to she Government to provide a remedy. Mr. M. T. BAINES observed that much had been done in the improvement of the property, but it had not shown any great result, owing to charges upon the estates and long leases, which had not yet expired. The government had already diminished the expenditure by reducing the number cf officers; and, acting upon powers given under a bill introduced some time ago into parliament, had pro ceeded to the consolidation of the property of the Duchy, by selling dis.ant estates and buying contiguous ones. After a brief discussion the motion was agreed to. THE ADMINISTRATION OP JUSTICE IN INDIA. Mr. KINNAIRD moved resolutions to the effect, that from representations to the house, there was reason to believe that the present administration of the lower provinces of Bengal does not secure to the population the advantages of good government, but that the magi of the. people suffer grievous oppression from the police, and the want of proper administration of justice. That it is desirable that the government shoud take im mediate steps to inquire into the social condition of the people, and to ascertain what measures of amelioration have been taken, and also that such report be laid on the table of the house. He remarked that in India there were 150,000,000 of natives. to 100,000 Europeans, including native soldiers, and that the governmeut should consider that their power was only m a i n t a i ne d by p res ti ge , and Toe Soverteroet Feeneres.—The marriaee of Prince that there was a limit to all endurance, and that, therefore, Oscar of Sweden, born in 1829, second son of the reigning it was necessary to monarch, with the Duke of Nassau's sister, bona iu 1836, give their immediate and anxious attention to this subject. took place at the palace of Bibrich on th e sth, at seven in the evening:—Our private letters, says the Pays, state At the close of the hon. member's address, a count out was moved, but was unsuccessful. that the journey of the King of Saxony into Italy is con nected with a projected maniacs of the Princess Sidonia Mr. DUNLOP seconded the motion, and corroborated the statement advanced by the mover. - of Saxony with the King of Sardinia. The King of Saxony has not, therefore, made a journey merely to pay Mr. V. SmtTll admitted the fact stated, and urged that a visit to the Duchess of Genoa, as was stated. consequently there was no ground for instituting the inves- THE Juucie , AND THE DEvIL.—At the Geeei,wich tigation suggested by the motion. The government being County Court, on Weinesday, in a case Gilbert a. Busford, very anxious to improve the c nditien of the the plaintiff, a factor, residing at Deptford, claimed for a people, had instituted inquiries '`with that view, load of straw. He did not know the defendant, hut from and measures had been taken in reference to each his honest-looking countenance, and saying he was work of the subjects touched upon in the restulations before the ing for Alderman Wire, he gave him credit till the fol. House. There were no secrets in the operations of the lowing Saturday. As defendant did not keep his appoint- Government in the case, and there were no inquiries inae- ment, he (the plaintiff) on meeting him some months after much - as papers already before the Hence would show all in the str ee ts asked him for the amount, when he said, that had been done. He could not disguise from himself A WHOLE FAMILY POISONED. " Oh, l'il pay you seine day." Upon this plaintiff said, that late occurrences were attributable to impressions that ---. " I'll take you before the judge." He replied, "You may corantdsory measures were to be taken against the native On Wedeeelay morning ; the n e i g hbo ur hood of Cleator take me before the devil, if you like." (Laughter.) So I religion, and he mentioned this bee'oise it originated with Moor, near Wl - ntehaven, was thrown into grea t excite- have brought him here. [lncreased laughtete]—His missionary operations, and the petitions upon which the recut by the disocvery that ari en! ire family were in' an Honour : Then you brought him before the judge ? motion was founded came f e ,r t i t beee who, while rePre- appareHtly :tying state, and, in e li p ro b a bility, f ro m the i Plaintiff: Yes, your honour.—Mr. Bishop (chief.clerk) : "ming they were the mouth-pieces of the Wyete telked-of etteeta of POiSOD• About nitro o'eneen a . m ., it was o b s erved , Then your taking him before the devil was the reason you degeneration of the native worship. - thet the h6use of a trainer, nar.ed SnsePh Armstrong, ; brought him here? Plaintiff : It was. (Rears of laugh- Bi S E. PIM" contended that in regard to the social remalee:t ':11) . ':-`,1, though its intn o.es should h a ve been up I ter, in which his Honour joined.)—Judgment for the condition of the natives, there were no bette titt i lr - arid sheaf their work for hours. This aneaeting the rities than the Bengal Missionary BRUTAL MURDER IN DUNDEE.--At a late hour on last plaintiff for full claim. And their petition. al.tent'lon of some n ighbaars, ihey anreachA the house, 1 authortteenrtu ed by t h e evidence of indigo and. beeline; wire stn .- ge. nois„;s, looked through ;he Saturday night, James Coyle, a weaver, entered a house in pT.lhanatters, etas w hi:::Y was equal to that of the mis- window, and saw two child: en lyieg apparently dead. They Shepherd ' s Close, Dundee, having no previous acquaint. stonaries• He proceeded to refer to the system of appoint- at on-e broke -pen the door, and found two lads one of ante with its inmates, who were two females, a mother ing boy judges of appeal, and argue d th a t t h e evils nineteen, and the otter of ten ye:11.5., dead. _ Their father, and daughter, the daughter being a married woman, complained of in the administration of justice might be his wife, and three daughters, wereeleing convulsed and named Burnett or Quinn, egel between sixty and seventy. rejected by the Government of Judges of legal training I inset;sible, M.dscal !assistance was at once sought ; but He was drunk at the time, and he accosted the daughter and educated, and magistrates of c om p e t en t age an d ex- I Armstrong's wife, N , tic, 4,1 s six no.;r l ths advanced i n preg. : In a rude Innoner, and the mother abused him for his con perience. He concluded by moving an amendment to the ne ncy, after linger:rig rill one o'clock, pen, expired. The ' duet, and succeeded, along with the daughter, in forcing resolution, the seconder embodying his views on the husband and one o f the d aughters were ctnsidered i n a him out of the hens', and locking .the door to prevent his sub j ect._ very prec arious state ; th eir r ecovery was very doubtfu l, enterin g again. The house being only one storey high, Lord JOHN ItussE" concurred with the Presi lent of Of the oeher two daughter s there was som e hope that, with .he went round to th e windo w , through which he again g o t the Boird of Control that inquiry would but delay the great care, they might ree , .rver. Ac to the cause of this into.the house. He was about to renew his assault .upon proceeding, and that the time had now come for acti n. fatality. uothing certain is known. The re a re rumours in the young woman, when she affected her escape, and, ran He held it to be clearly proved that the police force wag in th- locality of disagreements hetweee the husband and ' for a policeman. During her absence Coyle appears to l an insufficient state, and that the ccmplaints respecting wife, but whetherthesedifferenees- laare provoked either to have immediately com m e nc ed in a most bruta manner t(I ress.. °'?dY .iI; the administration of justice were well founded , , but he the commisaion of a dreadful ( )rime, or whether the cit . . I attack the defenceless old woman, knocking her down wee objected to the motion, urging upon the un vernment to eumstances whia hate imperilled the lives of seven indi, kicking her about the head and othey pßrts Of hoe devote their attention to the subject. - viduals, and certainly de s troyed the lives 'of three of the s h u a c s h b a ee m n a s n e n n e t r fo th r a t t she ria.pEpdeia::::orgi t ha D v e at. 7 l ;xp immeatatety; Mr. Malloutts believed that the action of the raissionariei fiteity, have hoc of eu Accidents), nature, islet Involved He was taken into cnetedy after D. stout resistance, and in seeking PelitiP4l irgiaistance would letyl to distrust of ' in tpystety, 1857. MERSEY CONSERVANCY AND DOCKS BILL. FROM OUR OWN REPORTER.) HOUSE OF COMMONS, THURSDAY. The. Committee on the Mersey Conservancy and Docks Bill met to-day, at half-past twelve, Sir James Graham its the chair. Mr. Minx/swims, on behalf of the Dock Committee, In concluding his address to the committee, observed, with reference to the evidence of one of the witnesses that the Lending-stage, opposite the icorge's Pierhead, although of local value only, was supported out of the rates levied on the commerce of the port generally, that such a complaint was disgraceful, fer that stage was actually forced on the trisek Com mittee by the Cheshire people, with ,the consent of Parliament, with whom, therefore, must rest the blame if the money paid in support of the stage by the Dock Trust were an improper expenditure-. The truth of the assnmption that that p tyment was wrong in principle will be, however, very mush doubted. The learned counsel nest replied to the objection raised by the promoters of the bill to the widening of Wapping. Now, the streets in the neighboorhood or the Wapping Docks had fer some time been in a most o ijectionable state, and with the increasing commerce of the town it was found absolutely necessary to make this improvement. Hai ing said this math on that head, he had no doubt bat that the committee would see the ground lessness of the complaint of Mr. Heron and his friends. Then, great stress had been laid on the fact that whilst the Dock Committee proposed t borrow £4,000,000 far carrying out the north dock scheme, they declared that they could not get .4'1,200,000 to pay for the Birkenhead Docks. The simple answer to this was that that increased dock accommodation was mucn required at Live. pool, and there was no doubt that had the north dock scheme been carried out it would have bean profitable—not so, however, with the Birkenhead Docks; they were an experiment. They had been a losing concern, and must be for some time yet. Again, the Dock Committee were bound to consider the purpose for which they were .ippointed, they ought o have considered, and they did censsier, their ditties to the parties who had nominated them to that important trust, and to the creditors of the Dock Estate, whose money they had borrowed acid spent. Therefore, when they found that Birkenhead mast be an unremumerative specu lation, they acted very properly i-s not committing taemselves to that scheme. If they had so committed themselves, what would have been the opinion of those parties in different quarters of the globe to whom the Dock Trust owed 4 , r3,000,000 sterling? He had to complain of the ignorance of detail shown by the witnesses for the promoters of the bill, and instanced the case of the Brazilleira and Sarah Sands. Those gentlemen wished the public to believe that the Dock Trust had behaved in an arbitrary and unwarrantable manner by levying dues upon" a few parcels of patterns" put on board the Brazille ra in the stream of the river, whereas, in truth, no patterns were put on board, but 'upwardeof 60 bales of silks, 50 firkins of butter, 68 sheets of copper, and many other packages of valuable goods. Such ignorauce was unpardonab:e, but the promoters of the bill were too fond of what they termed general principles—details they seemed to ignore alto gether. The committee must, therefore, see that the Dock Trust had simply done its duty In levying these dues. It was only fair that they shou'd do so, for, if they encouraged the use of the river as a pace of loading and discharging, who was to pay the bondho dare tie money that had been borrowed and expended in docks? 51oleever, if a flat from St. Htlens had been allowed to discharge a few tons of goods in the river, and had nrt been charged dues for so doing, what would have been the cry of the owners of the Brazilleira when charged with dials for a similar practice ? Under all these circumstances; he thought the committee wou'd find no case made out against the Dock Trust, and that they would declare the preamble of the bill not proved; v r 7 r{.rl 0 - 171! .;THE - NORTHERN TIMES.---LIVERPOOL, rtiQ f TIT them by the natives, and consequently lessen their influence. He, at some length, replied to the arguments of the sue portors of the motion, and stated his grounds of opposi tion to it. After some remarks from Lord BURY and Mr. Mum,. Mr. AYRTOliopiosedthe resolutions, and moved the previous question. Mr. KuntAan replied, stating that it was not his inten tion to divide the house upon the question. Mr. HADFIELD regretted that the mover was about to withdraw his motion, and stated th►t it was his intention to divide the House, because the ministerial defence was only a plea of guilty. Mr. Liddell, Sir John Trelawney, Mr. Potter, and Mr. Evans, having added some observa tions, the House divided upon the question, whether the original motion should be put. The numbers tit ere : _ _ Ayes Nos . 198 . 119 Majority lOO Accodingly, the motion was lost. Leave was given to Mr. MASSEY to bring in a bill relating to Turnpike Trusts, the Joint Companies amend ment Bill went through committee The Sound Dues Bill was read a second time. The C3unty Coss (Ireland) Bill, and the Court of Exchequer (Ireland) Bill went through committee. The House adjourned at half-past twelve p.m. MR. W. RUSSELL'S PERSONAL NARRATIVE. Mr. Russell delivered the third and concluding portion of his Personal Narrative in the Philharmonic Hall last night. There was, perhaps, even a more crow led and brilliant audience than that of the previous night, and the lecturer was greeted, as on each previous occasion, with an enthusiastic burst of applause. Mr. Russell proceeded to sketch in vigorous outlines, the results of the battle of Balaklava in its more immediate effects—the distrust which the glorious audacity of its success inspired in each of the Russian generals, and the surprise which so desperately won a victory struck awe into Lord Raglan himself. As an instance of the latter effect, he mentioned that Lord Raglan was actually yielding to a suggestion to abandon Balaklava alto gether, until emphatically urged to maintain his position by Admiral Lord Lyons, who dedared his resolution, if driven to it, to hold Balaklava with the guns of the fleet. The sortie of the Russians on the day after Balaklava, re pulsed so splendidly by the small body of men under Sir De Lacy Evans, was the next • event of any importance. Why the position held by Sir De Lacy Evans was not strengthened more quickly, the lecturer expressed himself unable to explain. When the Russians converted the hill, known as Gordon's Hill, once perfectly bare, into the sub sequently famous Mamelon, the key of Sebastop .1, regret was felt in our army that, even with their diminished forces, and at any risk, an effort had not been made to secure so formidable a position. Within the space of one fortnight, the genius of Todtleben had surrounded one side of Sebastopol with a continuous line of fort, trench, and battery. Inside that line of trenches the city could be seen a fair show of dazzling white streets, spires, domes, barracks and fortifications. All this time the army of Liprandi was still teen upon the plains of Balaklava. The Lecturer gave an effective and in some parts humerous description of the manner in which the besieging army gradually became accustomed to the continual sound of cannon and the whistling of red hot balls past them from the beleaguered city. Then the wea ther began to grow cold around the besiegers on the plains, aed the approach of winter came gradually to be felt. It was the night before the memorable and remarkable battle of Inkermann that the break in the weather her• aided the approach of that enemy against which even British valour could not contend—the Crimean win ter. On that night the rain began to fall in torrents, and was accompanied by intense cold. The morning broke wet, cold, and fogey—so dense that the sentries could not see ten paces in advance. It was such a morning as a desperate enemy would avail of to make a desperate sortie. The Russians were prepared for the opportunity; and though in our camp there was a presentiment of their intention, and though Lord Raglan knew two or three days before that they had received large reinforcements, still no attempt was made to strengthen our position towards Inkermann, the dangers of which were frequently pressed on his lordship by Sir de Lacy Evans. Like all his battle pieces, Mr. Russell's description of the desperate day of Inkermann was spirit stirring in the extreme. He described, in graphic terms, the alarm of the camp when, at grey dawn, the thunders of the Russian cannon an nounced that they had established a poisition on the plateau on which we lay ; the confusion among our troops at first ; the ready and desperate valour th -y then dis• played ; and the final struggle, when, after seven hours of the most unparalleled fighting, 7,500 wearied, over- worked British soldiers ignominiously beat a force of 40,000 desperate Russians. For though late in the day 4,000 French troops, with the " light of battle in their faces," came up to our assistance, the fight was almost over, and the enemy had received a lesson in tha loss of 20,000 of his best men, which paralysed his efforts during the rest of the year, and male him fear to the last mo• ment to encounter British soldiers even with the largest odds on his side. Mr. Russell well described the fight, when summing up his glowing narrative of the event he called it "Our Thermopolis." On that fearful day, in a battle fought without order, and won by the most desperate hand to hand fighting recorded even of British soldiers, we lost seven generals, 143 officerz, and 2,685 men, but 20,000 Russians lay dead on the field; an appalling evi dence how desperate the contest had been, how fearful had been our danger, and how great has been our glory. The dreary details of the siege formed a painful feature in the narrative, and as Mr. Russell told of the sufferings of our troops,of the fearful storm which burst over their unprotected heads, and sunk in the harbour of Balaklava seven of our finest transports, an I gave to a watery gr .ve 1,000 souls— his listeners were se ougly moved, the more so because it was so clearly shown that most of those evils, which form the dark side of the war, could have been avoided by forethought and management. Mr. Russell drew a painfully vivid picture of the failure of our assault upon the Redan, and commented in em phatic terms upon the management which for the first time rendered the 18th of June a day not glorious to British a^ms. Having described the taking of the Itlalakhoff by the French, he passed on to the closing scenes of the great campaign—the opening of the me-. morable bombardment, characterised as the feu cl' enfer, which would before long have rendered eebastopol untenable even without the final assault, and the deliberate retreat of the Russians, firing their magazines behind them, across the bridge to the north side of Sebastopol. Perhaps one of the most remarkable descrip. tions throughout the lecture, was that in which Mr. Russell illustrated that retreat, and the position in which the armies of the allies stood, gazing upon it as spectators with scarcely an effort to break its order or to harass its de parting lines. In a few words, he dwelt upon the horrors which met the eyes of the conquering armies entering the city, and the scenes surpassing even that of the field after the battle of Balaklava, which Ruestan oft:leers had de scribed to him as having characterised Sebastopol during the last days of its defence when the dead bodies buried iu heaps in the streets were frequently blown into the air by the falling shells, and overwhelmed the living. For ten enenthi after he remained upon that soil, until the last of the allied forces had quitted it, and he found by a final visit to the scene of the Alma, that the Russians still respected our dead. In a brilliagt peroration he exhorted Englishmen ever to cherish their memory, and then declared that his story was at an end. An enthusiastic burst of applause, again and again renewed, followed Mr. Russell as he quitted the plat form. r FRI DAY', --JUNE PRESENTATION OF AN ADDRESS TO MR. RUSSELL. A deputation from the members of the Liverpool Press Association, waited upon Mr. Russell last night, for the purpose of presenting him with an address expressive of their admiration of his talents and public services ; and their appreciation of the honor he has reflected upon the profession to which he and they belong. The deputation was received by Mr. Russell, in the green-room of the Philharmonic Hall, immediately after :he conclusion of his lecture : Mr. B. J. Meany, the president, addressing Mr. Russell, said :—I have been deputed by the members of the Liver pool Press Association, to present to you an address, which but faintly indeed expresses the warmth of their feeling in your regard. As Journalists, we cannot bat feel pride in the world-wide fame, which you as a journalist have carved out for yourself ; and while I am honoured by the com mand of my associates in Liverpool to speak to you on their behalf, I feel, in fulfilling it, the additional gratifica tion, that I address an old and dear friend. I will not detain you by farther prefatory remarks. The address is an impulsive testimony to your worth, borne by those who have watched your career with interest; and in the pre sentation of it, I feel that we best consult your wishes and inclinations by abstaining from all formality, Mr. Meany then presented the following : ADDRESS OP THE LIVERPOOL PRESS ASSOCIATION TO W. H. RUSSELL, ESQ., LL.D., "THE TIMES" CRIMEAN CORRESPONDENT. Dear Sir,—We, the members of the Liverpool Press Association, cannot permit the opportunity of your presence amongst us to pass without expressing to you our appreciation of the rare merits which, is your person, dignify the order to which we belong. In trying times, selected by the proprietors of a great public journal, for the discharge of a most onerous trust, it was a something, whilst justifying the confidence of your employers, to have won the gratitude of a nation. ' Your vivid pictures of the war, and its attendant circumstances, brought the eventful scenes which you yours'Af witnessed to the hearth-sides of every British home; and it is "no small pride to your " brethren in arms" that the " pen proved mightier than the sword" in the remedy of abuse and the pro tection of a brave army. To your honesty of purpose, zeal and fidelity in execution, and high professional qualities England is much indebted ; and in thus recognising and feeling proud of the success which, in your person, has proved the attendant on professional merit, and the accompaniment of individual worth, we feel that a distributive portion of the credit attaching to you is reflected, however unworthily, won us. Accept, then, dear sir, our earnest hopes for your continued 'success—your future prosperity; may you long live to win for yourself new distinctions in the field of journalism, and to shed new lustre on the profession to which it is our privilege to belong.—(Signed, on behalf of the Liverpool Press Association) STEPHEN S. MEANY, President, THOMAS LEE, Vice-president, THOMAS WHITEHEAD, Pro-Secretary. Juno I 1 th, 1857. Mr. Russell replied as follows :—I assure you, Mr. Meany and gentlemen, who have been so kind as to pre sent me with such a mark of your good opinion—quite unexpected and almost embarrassing to me—that you find me without words, indeed, to return you my acknow ledgements for such a mark of favour. The only thing that would at all embolden me, and justify me in accepting such a testimonial of your regard, is that which I hope animates every man who is obliged to fight the arduous battle of life with that very inefficient weapon, the pen, in his hand, the consciousness of integrity of purpose, and the desire to tell truth. Whether the enemy of truth will be ashamed by the process or not, I am not quite confident. As for myself, the praise you have bestowed upon me I feel to be very—altogether undeserved, ex cept so far as it may be justified by the honesty of purpose with which I have endeavoured to tell the troth; but to receive from gentlemen of your intelli gence, who represent that great estate, called the press— which is the unfettered expression of public opinion—of such a town as Liverpool, is one of the greatest rewards which I could receive for any privations I may have under gone in a field of labour which is new to most of us. I can only say that this, to me, as novel as it is valuable, shall be always preserved by me with an honest pride, and that among whatever little heir-looms I may hand down to my children, most of which will be, lam afraid, only the kind expressions of my friends ; this shall be very much valued. I thank you all most heartily. I cannot find words to return von my thanks in a manner properly representing 'the feelings which I entertain of the kind compliment you have paid me. The deputation shortly afterwards withdrew. _Mr. Russell leaves town, we believe, this day. BODY FOUND. —Yesterday afternoon the bogy of a man, who is at present unknown, was found in the river Mersey. It was immediately conveyed to the dead house at the docks, and an inquest will be held this day. It is supposed to be the body of a pilot who was accidentally drowned some short time since. A DODG ER CAUGHT,—Yesterday morning, detective officer Laycock, wrested a young man, named John Wil- Hants, in Mr. Murray's public-house, in Elliott -street, en a charge of having committed a series of robberies in several public-houses. It appears that this dodger was in the habit of engaging beds in public and other houses where there were lodgers, and it seems he used to get up in the night and steal, from the other lodger's rooms, money and everything portable that came in his way. He was stopping in his last lodgings for two or three nights, and every morning complaints were made by the other inmates of the loss of money, and other things. The police' were communicated with, and Laycock advised some of them to mark money, which they did, but as usual it was gone in the morning. When the prisoner was arrested, some of the money so marked, was found on him. He will be brought before the magistrates this day. IMPORTANT TO THE PUBLIC.—An application was made yesterday morning to Mr. Mansfield, at the police court, on behalf of two young ladies from Belfast, who are about sailing for Australia, in one of Messrs. B ships. The ladies were present, and were accompanied by Inspec tor Murphy and detective Scott. It appeared that the ladies have a brother in Melbourne, and that in February last he sent them a watch, value £lO, and gold value £l4, and this was sent through a house in Melbourne called G. Ford, forwarding agent, who charged 6s 6cl for freight and insurance. The sender got a bill or note of the air sir, directed to ---- and Company, Swe -ting-strect, Liver pool, as the agents of Mr. Ford, of Melbourne. When the ladies applied at this office, they could not ascertain anything about the articles, and subsequently the police were informed of the matter, snd Scott and Inspector Murphy called at the office, but, as they stated, thoy were informed that the parties could not give any information about the matter. In this shap e th e case ca m e b e f ore hi s worship, who said perhaps the publication of the affair would prove usefu , . Inspector Ii ehoe said this was not the first complaint r f the sort tb!rt had been made to the police on a similar subject. Inspector Murphy, and Scott were directed to go to the office with the ladies, but had not returned when the court rose. THE CASE FOR THE CORPORATION Mr. BURKE—The case of the Dock Committee is close-1, and the corporation will now pursue theirs: The evidence will be given first, and Mr. Hope Scott will address the committee afterwards. The CHAIRMAN—That is the most inconvanicnt course, and is going to sea without a chart, and when you have completed the voyage you give us the chart. • Mr. SHUTTLEWORT a , Town-clerk of Liverpool, said—l have held office since Nov. 1844, and had been in the employ of the corporation , inge 1833. I filled the office or deputy town-clerk some years, and can give evidence relating to the affairs of the corporation as such, and also as dock trustees. The witness procmded to give evidence on tee insti tution of the Dcck Tru it from the year of Queen Anne. The CHAIRMAN said all this had been given over and over again, and it would therefore be better to impuene any of the statements made oa the part of the promoters of the bill. The committee were perfectly conversant with the whole of the changes that hal t•tken place in the constitution of the Dock trust. Mr. Bu Ritz only wished the contrelttee to be in fall possession of all the facts relating to these changes. The CRAIRMAN—The committee are thoroughly acquainted with them. Mr. Bugg e—Now, it has been insinuate!, and a charge has in fact been made, that the transfer of land from the corporation to the dock trust was open to suspicion. Hive the corporation records been kept, and are they accessible from the date of Queen Anne? Toe rows-CLellE—Yes ; I have examined them and they contain a reference to the different transactions between the Dock Com mittee and Corporation as regards the sale of land They also contain a reference to the land transactions of the corporation, before a cam mitte to manage the docks was applied, under the Act of 51 Gee. 111., 1811. I have made myself acquainted, as regards the transfer of lane. to the Dock Committee, from the corporation, for dock purposes. In some cases the corgeration gave laud, aid in others they purchased land in anticipation of dock requirements, and then they transferred land to the dock trust at the cost price to themselves. The Act of Parliament required that they should transfer it without any benefit to themselves. In each case the sales were made to tie Dock Com mittee, with the consent and authority of Parliament, and ever since the passing of the Municipal Reform Act, no land has been sod or leased without the authority of the Lords of the Treasury, and a public notice having been given that such an application would be made, one month before it was so made. As regards the land on the Cheshire side of the Mersey, misrepresentations have been made to the committee. . _ . Mr. BURKS—It has been insinuated that the reason why the Liver pool Corporation purchased land at Wallasey, was in order that they might prevent tee construction of the docks there. Tne Tows-C,Eato—That is not so, 1 believe. I find the same charge was made at that time when the commissioners, to inqli - e into Municipal Corporations, visited Liverpool. The then Town c'erk, however, stated that immediately atter the purchases was made, the corporation had plans prepared for the conversion of Wallasey Pool into docks, and notice was given that an appli cation ;would be made to Parliament for powers to make such docks. I find that on the 15th of October, 1828, the minutes of a special meeting of the committee set forth that the pur chase of land should be made from Mr. Price for purposes connected with the trade of Liverpool. The Corporation, through their Finance C3mmittee, solicited an interview with the Dock Com mittee to learn their opinion upon the mode in which the property . of the Wallasey Poo! shored be dispeesed o At 'that time there was no means of confining the waters of the pool, and no suggestion on that question came from Mr. Reudall ; in fact, the Corporation were convinced of the feasibility of constructing docks in the pool long before Mr, Rendal suggested docks there. The Dock Comm'. tee at that time passed a resolution that the dock accommodation would be sufficient for some years to come, and therefore they did not concur in tne proposed application to Parliament by the Corporation for the construction of docks Et Birkenhead. The members who proposed and seconded that resolution were gentlemen elected by the dock ratepayers, not members sent down by the Corporation. It Wes carried by 9 to 5, and the minority consisted exclusively of members frem the Town Council. I was examined before Mr. Lewe's com mittee, last yew . , in reference to the sale of land to Mr. Potter and Mr. Laird. I repeat now the exp anation that I then gave of those transactions. The Corporation did not object to the construction of docks, but only to such docks as were then proposed to be made ; but if a petition against the bill was presented it was a matter of pure accident. The Birkenhead Dock Bill was read a first time in the House of Commons on the 16th of February. 1844. In December, 1841, Mr. Lawrence declared in the Council, and hi, speech went forth t 3 the public through the new,pap3re ' that the Corporation would oppose any bill int ouuced which affec:ed prej cially their interests or property at Birkenhead. The bill in question contained a clause repealing our Town Dues. Mr. .tacksen, Mr. Laird, Mr. Potter and others purchased limit to a great extent at Birkenhead, and I believe their bargains were good ones, (or they bought at 165., and sold at £4 a yard. Toe Corporation were ad vised by a profes,ional gsntlemao, that Sir. Beeders original plan for docks at Birkenhead would be injurious to the navigation of the Mersey. Clause No. 141, in the Birkenhead Dock Bill, 1844, took from us our right to levy our Town Dues at Birkenhead, and did not seek powers to make docks on the shores of the pool, with the excep tion of ore small three acre dock, as proposed by Mr. Bendel. The bill passed the House, the Town Dues repeal clan , te being ex p taiga I, Mr. CALVERT—It never came before the committee. Mr. BeexarThey were more modest in those days. The TowN CLERE--The clause was struck out by con-ent in corn mitten. In 1845, the Birkenhead Dock Company's Bill war first introduced, to construct docks on the banks of the Wa lasey Pool. The land was only leased for 75 years to the gentlemen I have spoken of, and they sought to make us sell our reversion by compresion. we petitioned against that bill, but the committee ordered us to s the the matter by arbitration or by a jury. 'S e w,eit to arbitration, and the result was that £113,000 was awarded to us. We have never received a halfpenny of that sum. Having obtained their act, the Birkenhead Dock Trustees could not finish the docks—the Liverpool Dock Trus tees were not in a position to take and complete the constructon of the docks—and, in 1855, the Liverpool Corporation came for Ward and became the purchasers of the d.'elfe, with a view to carry them into effect. The Birkenhead Dock Trustees and Birkenhead Dock Company refused to take the security of the Liverpool Dock trustees, and had it not been for the Liverpool Corporation, the works would have re mained unfinished. There facts came out in an int,rview that we had with the President and the Vice-President of the itoard of Trait, on the question. There is not the slighest wish oaths part of the Cor poration to retain the docks in th.er hands, when the Fork Committee are prepared to accept them. Their interest is to g,,t rii of the docks, for they are at present a heavy charge on the corporate revenue. We were to give the trustees of the BirkenheadDo ks bonds to the amount of *391,463, which are elassee, and are halt of the first•el.iss bonds to the extent of £45.000, will become p' yeele neat year. We have to give binds to the Birkenhead Dock Commis .ioners in the aggregate amounting to £751,537. Mr. PHILLIPS —ls the Liverpoel Borough Feud pledged to pay off these bonds ? The TOWN CLERK —Yes. Our revenue to mast this heavy expen diture is not sufficient, and we have a till now before the committee with a view to obtsin powers to borrow money to inset tee bonds. The recsipts last year from the B &ennead Docks , did not pay the working expenses, irrespective of interest. It must be some time before those ("oaks can be brought int , a paying state, is the opinion of men conversant with such subjects. The Liverpool Dock Trust depends for its income upon the dues levied on skips frequenting the port, and if they were charged with a heavy interest on a large and unproductive property, that charge must come out of the rates autho rised to be levie:l on ships using the Liverpool Docks, and if insuildrient, then the Liverpool Dock rate, would have to be increased to pay for docks at Birkenhead. Under these eircumetaners, the Liverpool Coe:oration thought it right, and mueli better fir all parties, teat they Should find the money in the first instance, rather than to allow the Dock Estate to do so, and to bear the loss rather. than to throw it on the commerce of the port, with the intention and the willingness to transfer hereafter the property to the Liverpool Dock Trust when such a transfer should be be consider , . d desirable. Last year we brought in a bill to complete the works, which, although it had been supported by the great shipping and mercantile interests of the port, was rejected. Since then the Corp era ion had consulted eminent engineers, and they were advised that Mr. Renders plans were not desirable, from the danger that attehded the construction of such a great low water basin. It is consideredthet each a bas n would fail, and, falling, would necessitate the re-oonstteetion of the where, of the dock works. The Corporation are waling to try a low water basin, and Mr. Hartley provides one on h;s plans, which, if it failed, would not be attendant with the dangers &astounding these by Mr, Bendel. Mr. Hartley's plans haze ben approved by the, Dock Com mittee, and the grew. trading and mercantile interests, in Liverpool. We have held out a conciliatory hand, to the rail way comeane s, but they have all along been unwilling to sacrifice that Ittege property simply to railway purposes. Mr. itendel proposes in his plan that we should build a hotel on the aeuth reserve for the G7eitt Western Railway Company. To the Chairman—lt is quite true, that the Birkenhead Dna:. e' mittee of the Council refused to delegate to their servant to determine the plops, because they were reeneteeie` ataarge. The works we propose plops,ure en ore %tee.' e o e e p o o tl e e r i ".‘'ue graving ar .ve than Mr. Itendees but we believe that they are more, beceuee e`,Y 9 in e rp o d r o e c e k a s lc a i n i l la t.sed on ship p ee ' . meet the requirements of the port. ale eo oration havelit ad lease on the 'Birkenhead side of th: J l lersey for shipbuilding purposes, and have expended , ZeQ,O O O constructing 1:m114111g yards, which are 'admired and considered as perfeet as any thing of th 4 sort could 'be. The Town-clerk was next examined on the power of the corpora tion to veto acts of the Dock Committee, and gave the details of three cases In whi*.the bate had been exercised. - he first was a ems in 91 '_71 the Deck Committee had sought to take land from the corpora. Lion without paying' for it ; the second was a case in which a floating bath was sought to be moored off the George's baths, and in spite of the veto, the bath' did remain there many .years ; the third had reference to an attempt to take land for. a dock-yard, which the corpo ration had otherwise disposed of. He also mentioned that theta had been voto,s on the admission of reporters to report the preceeeings of the Dock Committee, which was subsequently rescinded and denying the right of the committee - to represent them in a petition against a bill bihore Parliament; etso upon a vote of the committee giving Hr. Worthington, the sol:citor to the trust, a retiring p .nrion of .£2OO a year. Sinle 1851, when the-Dock Com ..itteo was change.' is consti tution, the cerporstion have only exercised the veto once, but subse quently, withdrew it, . Mr. 301ILICE ,The Boardof Trade in their report, say " the veto requ res a majority of two•thirds-of the Town ! °need, tut in the most important cases of all, vir e those which relate t, new bills, the eOrporation And that this power is not ne essary. The Dock Trustees, who it will be rene-mbeieo are the eovtrnine bogy of the Town Corpo ration, take such matters into their own bonds entirely, and do not allow the Dock Commiltee to exerciei any influence whatever Is it so'l• The Tows-Ceuta—The Dock Committee p 53; a resolution, in which they staie tout it is nei..eissary to epply to Parliament for a specific purpose. Tnat resolution is probably passed by the council, who are the Dock Trustee!, and the Dock Co nmitteu then prepare the r notices through their own solicitor, and the till, when printed, and prior to its e , ming be:ore a l'arliamentary ( °ea:mitt - ea, is sub mitted to the Dock frastecs, when any alterations or amendments in the bill me mra he; an I ft is teen subraltted to the DIAS COmmittee, who have the , car. iage of it througn Parliament through their own SJitc,tor and officers totally independent of the Town Council. Where a new bit is sought for, it is considered new matter awl a bare ,nsj ority is all that is considered necessary to aocept, reject, or amend it. Mr. Brats -z—Then the Board of Trade is wrong in ssyiev. that the Dick Committee are allowed no influence in passiugatew The TORN-CLES.R—DIIit is decide ,ly a mistake. Wit+. reference to the Board of Trade's report that if Livero, , ol had the management of the to ks she ould have an undue influence at Birkenhead,. the Town-Cler said it wa, sole y in consequence of the remarks from tr. Lab racr.rre that the Birkenhead Dock ought to be v sted• in a public board in Liverpool, and its consequence of the refusal of tbo , iirkenti-..ad Dock Tr istees to take the security of rite Li oirpon! r,ock Trustees that the Corporation came fo-turd and toner the Birkenhead Docks, With a view to complete them. by the bill if 1856, , he Cor poration proposed tiat the paxment of rates by any pe , sou at - the Birkenhead Docks should entitle him to vote for member., of the took Committee. There was a similar provision in the Birkenhead D cis mansgdment Sill. _ Tue Cita tiimAti—Raaliy this is not re!evazt. It refers to a bill which. is not bsf•rre us. air. BURKE—The Tearable of the bll now before the committee says that no provision is to ale in our manav,einent b 11 for the - . rra-con:titu'ion of ihe Liverpool Dock Commttee, so as to ena':ile the ratepayers of the Birkenhead Docks to be represra,eil at the Liv.!r pool Lock Committee. The CH AIRM sN—Thia makestlie matter material ; 1 was not aware of this before. Mr. Bosse—And the Board of Trade state the very ,arrte thing. They ,ay that Birkenhead will not be rep: esentei. at the Liverpool' Dock o,,nemictee, whore•ts in our bll we make provision tor it. Our Town Dues, aecordng to the Municipal Reform Act, are carred to the account o the borong:t fund, and the seettrity for the purc!ios, of the Birkenhead D:cks is the torongh fund. I should sate that a gentle- men made a mistake here the other day. We are not pasEelsert of as estate worth .t'7,000,000. The committee, at four o'c'4: k, adjourned until to-day THE WEAVER NAVIGATION BILL (FROM OUR OWNT REPORTER HOUSE OF COMMONS, Tertinea AT. The committee entrusted with the inquiry into this bill re-assembled this moraine, at twelve o'clock. The mcmeers of the committee pre sent were Lori Naas (chairman), the Marquis of Biandford, Booker Blakemora, Mr. Wickham. and Mr. Handley. Mr. Geoccox Jac esoe. manufacturer of sat, at Winsford, stated that he had made salt last year at a loss. He exported salt by way of the Eastern Coact, and considered teat the dues premed evert more heavily upon the merchants who sent salt to the East Ceast, than upon the , e who conveyed it to Liverpool. In cross-examin ttion by Mr. Drake; Parliamentary agent, witness stated that a memorial had been pc as nted to the trestees ;,3- the salt manufacturers, for a reduction of the dues. Witness accompanied a deputation to wait neon the trustees. In the course of Vie interview it was stated that, if the trustees would rednee the charge upon coal, mehing more wont 1 be said in reeard to the salt (hies; but witness did net aeree with that proposition. A sum of Is. was charged upon every ton of salt exported by meg of the Weaver, but when it got upon the canals it travelled upwards of 120 miles for 2s. ity Mr. Haley—So long as tee bill was before +Arnie - sent, the. trustees refused to do anything in the matter, and they dee Led to give any undertaking to reduce the tolls. If the deputation refused to support the bill. Me SAMUEL BRACEOIRDLE, examined by Mr. Haley, said he was a salt m , ainfacturer at Northwich and Winafo:d. The persons engaged in the salt trade had had repeated meeteags respecting t :e dues, whin pressed very heavily upon toe trade. In the first place they asked for a redaction of the charge upon coals, because, being upon the river, they were unable to obtain coals as cheap as other manu facturers who were served by the railway and cartel companies. The mannfacturersetrigi, ally confined their request to coals, b •cause they thou.tht that if they asked too much, tie trustees would give tilt ra. nothing. For that reason they did not endeavour to obl. in a reduce Hon of the salt dues at that time. The fl at interview with the trus tees took place in January last, but it was at a reeeting on the 2nd Fe ruary that the refusal to grant a reduction was male. Witaess extorted 1°,090 tons of salt last year to New Orleans. LORD Ness don't think the committee reqiclee any farther evi . dance with regard to the condition of the salt t ade, between iris country and the United States. It is perfectly plait that a reduction of the toll, from is to 4d, would bscf,benetit to tile exporter. ' Mr. HALEY said the point which he was anxious tu impreis upon the committee was, that the redaction of theedues eharg •p ion the Weaver was of immense importance to the trade of the river,.intrimet k as it would lead to a great increase• iL the quantity of salt axeerted to America, in which case the af.gregate amount of the dues paid would be brought up to neatly their pre eat mark. Examination continued—On t• A 10,00 1 tons which I exported last year, I had no profit at all. A portion of it was cold at New Orleans for 80 cents a sack, which was an absolute loss, but another portion was sold at a higher rate, so that the accounts of profit and loss exactly balanced. The Margate of BLANDFoLD— 11)W long have pee been i a the trade ? WITNEss —About six years. The Marquis of BLANDFoRD—Have yen explrted the same quantity every year during that period? WrratEss —No ; I exported very little until last year. The Marquis of BLANDFOR.D—Was , a-it year an eneeptional - cese*? WITNESS —There has been little or no profit for the last free or six years, except up,re one occas , on. By Mr. Haley—lf I had paid a less due by 81, I should hays sold my silt at the same ericfeat New urle +tie, and should consequently have realised a profit whien,could hare induced me to continue the American trade. If I could get a profi , . of 31 .per ton I should be perfect) , satisfied. if the salt had been exporte 1 by a Liverpool merchant, instead of- by the menuractarer, the:e . wield have been a considerable loss upon it. We c,neot export salt at 'all when the freight is more than 10; a ton. If we ever get 2; a . r on more for our sat, it is le consequence of a reduction in the freight, and nut from any rise in the price of salt. Cross-examined by Mr. S Tgeant Wrangham—Lord Stanley of Alderlev, Lord hiciamere, and Mr. F wire, of Bostic!, Hell., are the principal owners of the lane upon the riser, but I cannot say whether any of the landowners ,re salt manufacturers as wall. At the present moment I am making salt at tne rate o' 40,000 tons perannma. There are about 3d manufacturers, some of whom. make 5,0 o tons, an same not more thin 1,000 tons a year. The works I oeenpy Meng to Lord Mansfield and Lord Delamere If the duty was reduced from Is to 4d, I do nob believe that the reduction would Make much difference to the coasumer in America. In the spring the frele hta.are very high, and we cannot commence shipping until .t ley ctrae down to 10t. If the duty was reduced we could ship when the, freights wore l ie, and could thus commence exporting tso menteseirlier. I never shipped salt to America as ballast. If the dues were red , ..ced. the manufac turers world be better enabled to compete wi,h the Mel Iterraneen trade, and also with the a ,lt produced by the Americansthemselves. At the present moment the freight charged for the exeorte tion of salt to the United states. is ita. high as 12s per ton. From 700,0e0 to 300,000 tons are produce} in Cheshire attire persr-nt moment. I belive the supply could easily be increttaed to 1,000,00 e tone a Tear. I have said that the .brinein.some of the shef,s has decreased, bat the cattle was the sinking in of the earth. Mr. Serjeant Wrangham here read a paragnph from a Liverpool newspaper, giving a acconnt cf a statement made by Mr. Itracegirdie to the editor respecting a decrease in, the yield, of salt. Mr. Brice girdle stated that in the works at orthivich there had been a gradual doere ise in the quantity of brine, and that the yield had decreased in cons , :quence ful y5O per cent. The higher mines at Winsford had completely failed, and those, of Anderten and Northwich had fatten off, within a fortnight, 50 per cent., the brine having decreased to the ext at of Ii jr.,rd , . The leirned counsel wished to know, from Mr. Bracegirdle, if that statement was correct ? Witness said it was, belt,, the cause of the decrease had been the sinking o , the lied, which turned the current of the urine inland, instead of towards the sea, bat it had now returned to its original c ;arse. Mr. Sergeant WR A Nonkm—ln point of fact fie silt has comeback since this ell was intro aced. _ _ _ _ By the Marquis of Blaudford—l beliesiyo there are ices in America in which the price of saiii is higher I tiaii at New 0 cle/ns, but the Ilew ,trleans market is important, in co 9 equeneo of the cot, on trade. By Mr. Calvert--The works npaa, thc; Weaver advantage as compared with those whiz 7 -1 hare. factilitlei for com muuie with the railway, the pime of coils by railway being imich les.,s than by the ricer Weaver. The brine at the works near the railw4 and canal, is nearly . al good Ai th:lt in the immediate" v,rinitv of the Weaver. Mr. Blakemore—The rumnfaetnre of - salt is not very exp7;_nive, but the cost of the works is heavy. Mr. WM Evasts, examined by Mr. Mtmesty,. said—l am a partner in the tirm.uf Mulligan Evans, and Lsmpriere, merchants of Liv, r pool, who are agents to the National Compan ,, ,,a comp.,ny more largely engaged In the Cheshire salt trade than any oiler. If the company were to pot ail their working pans In order. they conl4l make 80 , 010 to 10,000 tens a-year. The e,,mpany have a tifty years lease of the works at Wittsford. _ . . kr. ROM Scorrvlejected to the tenure of the company being proved byeteeentleman who. wits only the Liverpool agent to the. company for toe sale of salt., • - The committee sustained the. objection. Examination resumed—The corePaPy make atel se., d to me for sa'e every description of salt, and, 1, frequently have ; a large supply c.i hind. I sent stored salt to. Calcatta, New York, and New (Weans: 'the s tlt trade has been of great assistance to the cetton trade in providing a.couemodity whielethe ships from Ainerica could take out on the tete= voyage. • ' L. -rd • N aati here interrupted, - and said,the corn inittee we ee erfectly satisfied with respect to.the coed don of the export trade between Liverpool and America. 1. , . was not necessary to hoer any further evidence on that particular point; - By Mr. Manesty—The. salt 'exported comes into competition with salt produced is other quaxtdra, and the competition is se strong that w it is a matter of the most carious Importance to have alt the charges upon it cut done to theloweet possible limit. At present the supply of salt down the Weaver to Liverpool is in excess of the de.nand, and latte!ly we have had ennsiderable difficulty in effecting "ales The manfacturers r,,eet with great compAdtion from the saltdstricts in the . Mediterranroan, and on the coast of Portugal. Cross-examined by Mr. Hope Scott—Ara there no places in England which compete With you? • • W ess —I believe no , . Mr. Hoes Scotere—Dtd you never hoer of Droitwich ? WITNEL , S —Yes • 'bet not is in the same district (Laughter.) • Mr. Here Seer:r —Wheie is Dreitwicia Wires:se—ln Cheshire. (Laughter.) Well. than, it's some other wieb," Mr. MANE TY—Mr. Evans means Nautwicle. M.S. noes Scam* sugge .ted that he Might . have been thinking of tt l°-j eianCitshire"witches , " etreTnosiees T4'001141 Was ilext examine I, and shred that. he was engaged in the manufacture of salt at Frodsharn, NorOwith, and Winsford, until March last. The VK i, sford distr;ct had greatly in creased since the establishment of raillay communication, but the works, which could only send salt to iverpool by way of the Weaver, ' hird greatly fallen off. Half of the National Company's Works on the Weaver, tor instaece, were now standing idle. Ile did nofebelieve that, unless the salt proprietors _were ale, owners of date:, `hl),dlit could be obtained from the manufacture of salt The coal comes erincipally from Wigan and St Helens. By the Committee—some of the coal p'oprietora have b come salt manufacturers in order to provide a means of consuniinz their slack," a devription of coal which would other, ise not be turned to a useful account. By Mr. Manisty—The primary object of the manufacturers has been to obtain a reduction of the dues upon coal, because they paythat due, bat they consider tnat the merchants of Liverpool pay,the due upon silt. The evidence of this witness cies d the case on behalf of the pre , motors. and the committee then adjOurned, at La (-past tig§'d 9'04+01. r thl this day (Friley).