The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1846-01-20 00:00:00

46, .......... Jan. 20, 1846. Chapel ge-street, ;e, Duke- Canning ir-street ; ng which avertree ; Prince's nd ; One tto, West ne. Ditto, tle-road ; Prince's )00; with of 800,000 di 15,000 isingtOn ; Toxteth eld-road; 'osby and rliament- I South ; on; One ❑e Ditto, ale ; One House, , ne Ditto, , Fraser of Seel ce-street. Lnd near :0, Lord- arch. ne Ditto, ae Ditto, Custom- 3, in the ith about street. issorted ; to the ;, 81, ST. amount esold at James -3d inst. will be SA➢I UEL the 24th 6th Jamuary, 1846. s, entry srom bu- MANU lent Ma ; are ex shipping both in Lblished. emain in Years, ses, &c., deem it an four eNorth m on the and the ;R, Fox- 614 January, 1846, EZlailtrb. eight ,ly num through and en- [RE," ree hun- limbs of in pro flags of ms mer- atitude s runtered °Cts. e to the v docks, ewarded ete )NNET stricest y article ith his he first NOS. S of all SOCKS, several our ar d 1/ENT ks of GANY ['INS, ped and oLLAItS superior N E -, of ETs• require s 6th January, 1846, Z'he L; - t.l!le line from Grantham to 4.: °_ 1 :1 ; by the Boston, Netr -04 :!'ii , hegield ilicay, l"1st ie 4 !ice 31 miles. rp h 4vi est Gradient 1 in 165. ~, I kellin g 528 yards. 'lle t s from • Nottingham to en.4. o n, by the Boston, New -4114, and Bheffield Railway, Illiall4i miles over the 41113(1. Counties , Notting , J., , io Z. l (ll4ncoln Line, which rsta,constructed, is : i s l o avi - e ll ..... ...... 55 miles. o Tunneurinn(glient .. lin 165. thiNtri TO HATTERS. usin WAlinD, a PERSON who can REALLY shape and assist in the General Bess of a Retail Shop. APply at BICKERTON and SATCHELL'S, 48, Lord-street. CLERK WANTED. ANTED a YOUNG MAN, acquainted with fer „ces KKEEPIN and G. ability. He must possess satisfactory BforOOh re dress4a R.S., Box K 27, Postoffice. TO STOCK AND SHAREBROKERS. G ENTLEMAN accustomed to the routine of a ttizola.broker's Office and EMPLOYMENT a good connection, is jis of meet'ng with in the capacity of the `i' , N - ERAL MANAGEMENT or the o CORRESPONDING CLE . RK, or to take Amato Office A.B Box K 8 Postoffice, Liverpool. - - -WANTED, in a Private Family, residing at Ken- LA by s ington, and attending St. Jude's Church, a YOUNG Of p,, WI NURSERY GOVERNESS, besides the general charge re c „ 11 „ 1. Children, (the oldest seven years.) She would only be tioli;"ed to ground them in the common branches of Educa- Wod,t be Pod health, amiability, and willingness to oblige, of th e e the mai n qua lifi ca ti ons . R e f erence t o a Clergyman :ear Es tablished Church would be preferred. Salary, =Y, by letter, to A. J., Postoffice Box J No. 54, Live] *WANTED, an active SINGLE MAN, from 20 to self years of age , t o a tt en d t o a GARDEN an d ma ke him one Ind in the House. A good character required, and no Amp n aPpjy who has not occupied a similar situation. lore 10J r after 4dt a. I, o' clock. Priory-road, St. George's-hill, Everton, be o 11°IT INGIIAM, EREWASH VALLEY, AMBER TTie,ATE, AND MANCHESTER RAILWAY. "r , Directors, in conjunction with those of the ,tram o ther two Co m p an i es w ith w hi c h th e a b ove C ompany h as itddij arn ated, have determined to CALL immediately for the 00eonal per Cent. required to be paid by the Standing W 3 ...of the House of Lords. to SHAREHOLDERS in this Company, therefore, are requested 19CY to One of the undermentioned Bankers, on or before the pstant, ss. upon every Share held by them; . and they tie r, e .ceiVe an acknowledgment, headed in the following man- Amberg.ate, Nottiegham and Boston, and Eastern Th e '?l-Railway Company." les s th 'ilrectors also beg to inform the Shareholders, that un res?e above Call be paid within the time prescribed, they the pajo themselves the power, expressly granted to them by Po s i t LY2inentary forfeit of declaring the Shares and the De- Paid thereon to be d, and of re-allotting the same. By order, JNO. GOUGH, Secretary. BANKERS. .t iegSr • S amuel s • -aumel Smith and Co Nottingham. Mes s r s : Arkwright Wirksworth. kes Stnith, Payne, and Smith London. ke s s s r s• Samuel Smith and Co Derby. Atemrs. Jones Loyd and Co. Manchester. Me ss ". J. and J. C. Wright and Co Nottingham. ties Messrs. nd King Grantham, Lincolnshire. Liles:2' &lardy,Walkington, & Hardy. Grantham, Lincolnshire. ,alssi.:' Henry o, and Co Boston. ees sr '," ny & 'Thomas Gee & Co Boston. ht s• Moore and Robinson Nottingham. the Barnett, Hoare, and Co London. the 11,;, Glyn, Halifax, and Co. Lombard-street,London. Jri et ,V . Pool and Manchester Dis- 1 ale s , 14 ak ------2._!:leckett and C 0.. . ' Leeds. ° W/NGHAM, VALE OF BELVOIR, AND Ttr, O RANTHAM RAILWAY COMPANY. Directors, in -conjunction with those of the ar n ether No Companies with which the Above Company has aidditrtnated, have determined to CALL *mediate)" for the Ordernnl 5 per Cent. required to b e p ai d by th e Standing of the Ho use o f L or d s . to, ` I ! t EHOLDERS in this Company are, therefore, requested LDtl- Da, ") one of the undermentioned Bankers, on or before the Will natant, 58. upon every Share held by them ; and they J er i v rive an acknowledgment, headed in the followin_g man- J oneti o ` , Ambergate, Nottingham and Boston, and Eastern , Th e 0 Railway Company.:' 4ess th'lrectors also beg to inform the Shareholders, that un the reg ery e above Call be paid within the time prescribed, they pa themselves the power, expressly granted to them by Dosi t " r 9anientary Deeds, of declaring the Shares and the De- Paid thereon to be forfeited, and of re-allotting the same. By order, JNO. GOUGH, Secretary. AI N BANKERS. Ale u ls- Samuel Smith and Co . ... Nottingham. Messrs; Arkwright Smith, PaYne,'and . Smith . . .. London. Wirksvvorth. • 3 te ss ;s Samuel Smith and Co Derby. Me rits ' tonet Loyd and Co Manchester. • s le-.s• J. and J C. Wright and Co Nottingham. itteslr6. li ewney'and King Grantham, Lincolnshire. A tes g r ,, s ' Ilardy, Walking - ton, & Hardy. Grantham, Lincolnshire. Neu,"- G arfit, ' Clavpons, and Co Boston. 5 1e 8 , 48 . Henry & Thomas Gee & Co Boston. k's. 1 1Ioore arid 'Robinson Nottingham. Messrs. Barnett, Hoare, and Co London. abet - . Glyn, Halifax , and Co. Ori4; s erpool and Manchester Dis- 1 Manchester: ale ss 7; -0 .,,,ank -...,22- Beckett and Co. Leeds. N OTTINGHAM AND BOSTON RAILWAY COMPANY. T li t Directors, in conjunction with those of the kinm ° the!' two Companies with which the above Company has itddiPnated, have determined to CALL immediately for the Order s st° the House Cent. required to be paid by the Standing 8 , or the House of Lords. to AREHOLDEBS in this Company are, therefore, requested 19 t t'Y to one of the undermentioned Bankers, on or before the Wil l instant, ss. upon every Share held by them ; and they b er receive an acknowledgment headed in th e following man- Jun tiz. 4 R ‘ Amberga Companyte, Not " tingham and Boston, a n d E as t ern on ailway . le,lbe Directors also beg to inform the Shareholders, that un -448 the above Call be paid within the time prescribed, they Neyarhamentary Deed, th s _ e Lve .:otherriselves the power, expressly granted to them by of-declaring the Shares and the 'it aid Paid thereon to be forfeited, and of re-allotting the same. By order, JNO. GOUGH, Secretary. 14 essr 8 s Co KERS keg s ,. • amuel Smith and Nottingham. k e ,...5. Arkwright Wirksworth. Ale s ;',.. Smith, Payne, and Smith London. . ) ;le m ' r s • „.Sarnuel Smith and Co Derby. Mes sr s 'tones Loyd and Co. Manchester. i les sr :' Wright and Co Nottingham.. I les - k "' ",_,ewney and King Grantham, Lincolnshire, "Zes: r t ;* ~ „- n ardy Walkington, & Hardy. Grantham, Lincolnshire. Messrs,'-. "Arfit,'Claypo s, and Co' . Boston. nenr):, & Thom n as Gee & Co.. Boston. tea;,,4loore and Robinson Nottingham. les'," s • Barnett, Hoare, and- Co London. NP. Glyn, Halifax, and Co. Lombard-street,London w tri'errPool and Manchester Dis- ) 4 es 4 ,..'ank . t Manchester. ". Beckett and Co Leeds. 41c115 latlt , GATE. NOTTINGHAM AND BOSTON, N i :j.,,l.ri EASTERN JUNCTION RAILWAY. , L ., tiVCE.The SCRIP must be presented at the - '''ltt l ie,,Of payment to the Bankers, in order that the acknow ` 'nay -be stamped upon it. By order, JOHN GOUGH, Secretary. Al~ Ist' r) GATE. NOTTINGHAM AND BOSTON, Ttpb EASTERN JUNCTION RAILWAY. COMMITTEE OF MANAGEMENT, with i!tl4 o gi - ',. c olidesceraling to notice any of the anonymous and erq ;ILements which have from time to time appeared in se 'harethe public prints, have the satisfaction to assure the It),hve beeolers that the Plans, Sections, and Books of Reference Most minutely examined by the Engineer, and that ;ver y e are found to be most accurately prepar . ed, and that ( pet it 7 4 ,.asure has been adopted which' th Committee feel . cnn -1.44. 111 insure the passing of the Bill through Standing By order of the Board, ktti n • JOHN GOUGH, Secretary. 91 ' 4 #1, 9th January, 1846. 'oSTON, NEWARK. AND SHEFFIELD RAILWAY. th th C OMMITTEE of DIRECTION beg to inform e 11;;LSHAREHOL Clerks, Pr ERthat the Bill Office, &c equisite DEPOSITS with ti iva D te. HAVE BEEN MADE, whole of tlie NOTICES SERVED, in compliance with Th —lid ing Orders of Parliament. I lliti c , d e v alue and importance of the Line being universally a_d -I,taten,' t he Committee beg to submit the following . Tabular Luie ti;ept, from an examination of which the Public . will be co lodge how far the Engineering merits of this Line will tl - I ."'Parison with the other schemes intended to accommo e Li' Same District. sel ne from Boston to Shef throughSleaford, New tid 'Mansfield, by the , Aele oz l i i t yeirark, an d Mel- NtaLl-C (way, is : ... ..... tit tie ` uradient .. lin 120. inhg ........ 1024 yards By opposing Lines, which omit Newark : Distance 92 miles. Heaviest Gradient .... 1 in 84. Tunnelling 9450 yards. By opposing Lines : Distance 21i miles. Heaviest gradient .... 1 in 88. Tunnelling 1320 yards. 55i miles, 1 in 88. 2024 yards, By opposing Lines : Distance Heaviest Gradient Tunnelling ....." Chit e xamination of the preceding, it will be seen that &in `. Ol the Boston, Newark, and Sheffield Railway, as a oston4lllcation between Boston and Sheffield, while it connects 3 7,,ati th-,:,,,a11a Sleaford, with Newark, which the others do not, rs''. yam s over its opponents .of lla miles in diptance, , 1 in tunnelling, and of a gradient of lin 120, instead in On th , thus effecting an enormous saving in capital. 9 jadi e „e two other routes compared above, the advantages . to nai of t and tunnelling greatly preponderate on the same side, ,7rdir,"..e.BoBton, Newark, and Sheffield Railway; and these Pea Rail° a Principle lately most prominently announced by compensateee sktvay but the best Railway is not always but that which works best,"—much more than Bostohtsoe for its greater length of about three miles . . tiostnirs,.there are 144 miles of the route from Nottingham to n i , vut the Boston, Newark, and Sheffield Railway, al theret 1 1 the course of constniction by the Midlands Company, to nli . le s , cia r d e i n ti d „e_,g_n . e_ce , ssary for the opposing line to make 11 k ' l e 31 n V, n g 6 . l, Caltzfay . 7erth very heavy gradients, in order eit ark, ues in their distance, as compared with the Boston, 4A, 74d.Sheffield Line. lerlt;o7 Minute statement of the comparative engineering „etiih, thpse lines, which is now preparing, will, it is ymn le tuaticpated, set at rest all doubts as to the superiority of rich aston t etn es , Newark, and Sheffield Railway over it . s . rival tc'vertied_and .establish its parliamentary claims on an incon e/d, 15th January, 1 j 846°H . N 41,„__ e basis. DENNISTON, Secretary. MIL °l* th 111 A P th e -e put pos !nl'EcTiox SOCIETY.—A Society under this title Aic e g 1 1 0 3 f ou p t roviding substitutes for those balloted to t°44l,4l;e4aelllrunswict I lLe te s l tar i t i e a d no u v n e d n e s r tr v e e et ry: ftsvroeusrliiiobilliaili.e_s kv 41 gi ve join, as a sm'all contribution from' each mem -1),4! _ means oi providing substitutes for those who eipl4 , r tn• e lt will be conducted on the most equitable 'eSt it eext : l, _c! tb whole amount of surplus funds with the in- Will be annually divided. Contrart6. LIVERPOOL; DOCKS. LANDING STAGE. TO BOILER MAKERS, IRON BOAT BUILDERS, &c. THE COMMITTEE of the LIVERPOOL DOCKS do HEREBY GIVE NOTICE to such persons in the above lines as may wish to CONTRACT for making a number of PONTOONS or IRON BOATS, for the support of the LAND ING STAGE now in course of construction, to be moored off George's Pier, Liverpool, that the PLANS and SPECIFICA TION S of the work, together with all requisite information and conditions connected therewith, may be seen at the Dock-office, Revenue Buildings, Liverpool, on and after the 22d instant, inclusive. For the sth of February For general information it may be stated, that the Contract will comprise the making of about 300 Tons of the best kind of Boat or Boiler Work, in the simplest form, and in easily ma nageable weights. By order, DANIEL MASON, Secretary. Dock-office, Liverpool, Jan. 6th, 1846. LIVERPOOL NORTH BATTERY. ry TO CONTRACTORS MASONS 6-c THE COMMITTEE of the LIVERPOOL DOCKS are desirous of receiving TENDERS for the ERECTION of a portion of the RIVER WALL at the northern extremity of the Dock Estate, of about 360 feet in length by 40 feet in height, to be mainly faced with Granite Ashlar; together with other Work, on which a Gun Battery is intended to be constructed. The Plans and Specifications may be seen at the Office of the Dock Surveyor, on the south side of Coburg Dock, from the 14th instant to the th of February next. The Tenders must be sealed , addressed to "The Chairman of the Sub-committee of Dock 'Works," and be left at the Office of the SECRETARY, Dock-office, Liverpool, not later than FRIDAY, the 6th of February next. By order, DANIEL MASON, Secretary. Dock -office, Liverpool, 12th January, 1846. LIVERPOOL DOCKS. LOANS OF MONEY. rpHE COMMITTEE of the. LIVERPOOL DOCKS 1 DO HEREBY GIVE NOTICE, that they are willing to receive LOANS of MONEY, on the security of the Bonds of the Trustees of the Liverpool Docks, at the rate of FOUR POUNDS PER CENTUM per annum interest, for periods of either Five or Seven Years. All letters to be addressed to GEORGE WITHERS; Esq., Trea surer of the Liverpool Docks, Dock-office, Liverpool. By order, DANIEL MASON, Secretary. Dock-office, Liverpool, 20th November, 1845. DOCK EXTENSION-MEETING OF THE TOWN COUNCIL. A. special meeting ofAhe Council was held in the Town-hall yesterday, " t ke into consideration and de termine upon the proceedings, resolutions, and direc tions of the Dock Committee, of the 13th instant, on the following subjects, %iz. :-I.—A plan of proposed dock improvements at Wapping, with reports and estimates thereon. 2.—A plan for better accommodation on the land or site of Nova Scotia for coasting vessels, and for the carrying trade in connection with a proposed rail way depot there. 3.—Purchase of such land on the Last side of the new dock in course of construction on the land or site of the late Harrington Estate as may be required for widening the east quay of that dock. The plans had for some days been lying in the Council Room, and on this occasion they were placed on the table for the inspection of the members. The Mayor presided. The TOWN-CLERK read the proceedings of the special meeting of the Dock Committee on the 13th instant, which comprised the following : REPORT. This document stated that at a meeting of the Dock Commit tee, held on the 13th instant, to consider and decide upon 'plans and estimates of proposed dock improvement in Wap ping, Nova Scotia, &c., the committee had considered the im provements in Wapping as prepared by the surveyor, together with the reports and estimates, and resolved that the plan be , t e i l• e s bep oban i t o a r m edt o a into effect;they f also riproved d the better e accommodation it approved an of w or coasters, &c., on the site of Nova Scotia, and resolved that similar powers be obtained. Also that powers be obtained to purchase such land on the site of the late Harrington. Dock as might be degrable to widen the east quay of that dock; and, finally, that the whole plans be laid before the trustees for their approval, and that the Mayor be requested to call a special meeting of the Council, to consider the same. Mr. HARTLEY's communication to the Chairman of the Par liamentary Committee explains his views relative to the ap propriation of the land to be purchased. He states : " One of the greatest inconveniences connected with the Liverpool Docks has been the want of a connection between the North and South Docks •; vessels having , discharged their cargoes in any of the docks of the South division, glarequired to take in their outward cargoes in the Northern Ds, (which is a case constantly occurring,) have hitherto been obliged to take in ballast to enable them to go in the river, as well as to employ a steam-boat and pilot, or run the chance of being upset, an instance of which, I believe, oc curred only . the other day. The inconvenience arising from this cause is every day becoming greater, and will be still more strongly felt when the Albert dock and warehouse are brought into full operation ; and it has been partly with a view to remedy thiS evil, that I have designed the plan for a dock in Wapping, connecting the Queen's and Salthouse docks. Not only has there a great necessity been felt for a more convenient water communication, but a still greater necessity for a better laud access to the different docks in this particular locality. The East quays of the Queen's, the King's, the Salthouse, and the George's docks are all greatly too narrow for the work ing of those docks ; and if those parts thereof belonging to the Dock Estate were to be fenced off from the streets,, which it is desirable they should be, in order to give more uninterrupted accommodation to the working of the docks, then the streets (which, including footpath and carriage -way, are only 30 feet) would be so much contracted as to render it impossible to car ry on the ordinary traffic with that facility winch ought to be afforded ; for not only has the traffic arising between the docks themselves had to pass in this direction, but also from the cir cumstance of the railway del:oft and several of the carrier's wharfs being likewise in this vicinity, almost the whole com mercial traffic between this port and the interior has been con centrated here, in streets far too confined for the purpose. These inconveniences I have endeavoured to remedy in the design now laid before you. Little, if any, explanation of the plan it self can, I think, be needed, as the great improvement to be derived from it will at once be obvious to any one conversant with the present state of Wapping and the adjacent thorough fares. " It is proposed to construct a dock of 51 acres area, having a quay on its east side, 75 feet in width, and a public street on the outside. 75. feet in width, running in a straight line from near the south-west corner of Canning-place, to the west end of Kitchen-street. A communication is also proposed to be made between this dock and the existing Duke's dock, by which means very great facility will be given to the carrying trade, and_consequently to the shipping trade generally. The contemplated means of forming a system of railway communication along the whole line .of the docks, is greatly dependent upon this plan being carried out; and in further ance of that measure, it is also proposed to purchase the Man chester basin, and the New River. Company's basin, and to form there an additional outlet into the river, opening from George's dock passage, (which it is intended shall be widened and otherwise improved) by which great relief will be given to the transit of ships to and from the Prince's and George's docks and George's basin, and the coasters and others relieved from the inconvenience attendant upon the use of the latter of those quays. Graving blocks may then be laid on each side of the basin. In connection also with this outlet, dopOts will be formed, with which the railways from the different docks will be connected, thus facilitating still further the operations of the carriers. Every facility which can be afforded to the rapid transit of merchandise to and from the shipping must act prac tically as a proportionate increase of dock accommodation, and I do not think I can recommend to. you .any plan more likely to attain this object, or be more beneficial to the general interests of the trade than the one I now have the honor of sub mitting for your consideration. Mr. HARTLEY concludes by saying that he has not had leisure to.make accurate estimates of the cost, but is decidedly of opinion that the position of the works forming the communi cation between the Queen's and Salthouse Docks may be con structed at a much less proportionate cost than any similar works in the port, added to which no river wall, and but little cleansing will be required. Messrs. John Stewart and John Wightman, in a letter (dated 3d January) addressed to Mr. Mason, the Secretary, state, that in looking over the Wapping esitmate, they think the com mittee must assume £500,000 as the entire cost, from which is to be deducted the value of the materials, and the contribution (if any) made by the Corporation. Estimate of the Proposed New Works in Wapping. The probable cost of works, .e 154,386 ; valuation of land, &c., £500,000, . • • • • • .:€654,386 Deduct—Corporation reversion, .4'63,000 ;—value of old materials, .t'58,000, . . . • • • ,61.23,000 £531,386 If the above work be not carried out, 2728 Eq. yds. of frontage will be required in Wapping to admit of rails being laid, which at £25 per sq. yd. would be . . £68,200 ~f 463,186 Assuming the above estimate, the work may be esti mated as follows : Wapping Dock (area of water) 5 acres 0235 yds. • Basin, 1 acre 1671 yds. ; Salthouse, 1 acre 3412 yds acres 0478 yds., at £57;192 per acre, . £463,186 Lineal yards of Quay. Wapping Dock, 650 i Basin, 308; SalthOuse Dk. 55,-1013 at £457, ss. per hn. yd. £463,186 Without the deduction for railway, the estimate will be as follows':—Wapping Dock, (area of water) 5 acres 0235 yds. ; Basin, 1 acre 1671 yds. ; Salthouse, 1 acre 3412 ;-8 acres 0478 at £65,613 ss. . . . £531,386 Lineal yards of Quay. Wapping Dock, 650 ; Basin, 308 ; Salthouse Dock, 55,-1013 at £525 Hs. 4d. per li neal yard, ..... . . . . £531,386 (Signed) JESSE HARTLEY, sth Jan., 1846. Estimate of the probable cost of the proposed new dock in Nova Scotia, comprising the Manchester. Dock and the New River Company's Dock, with a connection with George's pas tage, and having a large and small gut to the river, will con coin Of water space 3 acres 2864 yards, Quay space 3} ditto, Lineal quay space 658 yards. The probable cost of (the works, £69,345; valuation of the land and building £200,000, . . . . . .t 169,345 (Signed) JESSE HARTLEY, ' 7th Jan., 1846. Approximation to the Value of the property proposed to be purchased by the Trustees of the• Liverpool Docks. Property described on plan included between Canning place and Queen's Dock, say £600,000. The entire • quantity of land, including not only the pro perty destroyed, but the existing streets, and roads, is about 9000 square yards. Property on Nova Scotia, including the Manchester Old Quay Company's dock and premises, say .e 200,000. The entire quantity, including streets and roads, is about 36,500 square yards. Land east side of Sefton-street, say £7o,ooo—appears by the plan to be about 27,400 square yards. (Signed) JOHN STEWART. JOHN WEIGHTMAN. 'Liverpool, Dec. 31, 1845. Mr. BRAMLEY MooRE rose to move the confirma tion of the proceedings of the Dock Committee. He con. fessed, he said, that he approached those proceedings with considerable diffidence, lest there should be a failure on his part in making out a case of the necessity for the pro posed improvements, though if it should be so it would not be for want of materials, but from pure inability on his part to do justice to the subject. That the plans which had been laid upon the table and submitted to the approbation of the Council, were admirable, no one would dispute; and as to the advantages to be derived from them, if carried into execution, he also thought there would be no dispute. These plans occupied the broken link which had hitherto existed in our line of docks, and made them into one con tinuous chain, so that, if they were carried, vessels would be able to pass through the docks, from end to end, with out being obliged to go into the river. This was an ad vantage sufficient of itself to recommend , the plan to favourable consideration. Every shipo miler would agree with him, that if it could be obtained, the cost not proving too great, such a facility was most desirable, for it only very recently happened that a ship, in passing into the river, from one dock into another, capsized, and suffered considerable damage. Not only, therefore, was it with a view to the extension of the docks themselves, and to afford greater accommodation and facilities to the trade of the port, that these plans were proposed ; but also with the view of affording greater security to the shipping.—(Hear, bear.) He would just premise that now was the time when these improvements and extensions must be carried out—now or never—inasmuch as the land on the east side of King's Dock had been purchased by the Grand Junction Railway ; and if this opportunity were lost, and the time allowed to pass away till that company should have erected expensive buildings there. it would then be altogether impracticable to carry out the proposed improvements. (Cheers.) He should say very little about the plans themselves, because they carried conviction to every mind from their simplicity, their uti lity, and their general convenience to the port; therefore, he should first direct his attention to making out a case of the necessity of further dock accommodation, after taking into account the large amount of works now in progress. He hoped to be able to accomplish this task to the satisfac tion of the Council. The next proposition he proposed to show was, that they were warranted in undertaking new works by the position of the dock revenue, and b y the probable increase of the trade of the port ; and in doing so, he should endeavour to confine himself to the past, appealing to undeniable facts, and as regarded the future, to take such a moderate view of matters, that no one would, as he thought, presume to deny the probability of what might be expected. (Hear, hear.) It would be difficult, indeed, and he thought the Council would agree with him, after they had heard his statement, to say where the trade of this port would finish, and where and when they must stop in meeting the demands of the port for increased dock accommodation. (Hear.) Hitherto we had always been in arrear (hear, hear), and by the time the new works now in progress should be completed, we should still be in arrear ; and therefore he held it to be their duty to provide accommodation as rapidly as they could for the wants of the future. He knew it had been stated in that Council and elsewhere, that the Albert Dock was more than sufficient to meet all the wants of the port; but he should be able to prove most clearly that this allegation was not the case,—nay, more, that all the new docks to the north, and the additional dock to the south, would be inadequate to meet the demands of the port at no very distant day. (Hear, hear.) It had also been repeatedly stated in that Council, that the trade of the port was rather more likely to be a declining trade than an increasing trade, more especially as regarded one branch which he should have occasion to bring under the notice of the Council in his subsequent remarks, and that was the timber trade. (Hear, hear.) Having thus in these preliminary remarks drawn attention to the advantages to be derived from the continuous com munication of the docks from one end to the other, he wculd now at once shew that some increase of dock ac commodation wouldibe necessary. In order to do this he must crave their indulgence, as he should have to trespass upon their time rather low,er than usual, but, as this was a matter of very great importance to the town of Liverpool, he should be excused, he was sure. He wish ed to shew that in undertaking, as the Dock Committee had, to recommend this scheme to the Council, they had not done so upon:light grounds, nor without very grave and mature consideration ; and therefore, in order that the Council might estimate properly the increase in the trade of the port, he would give some statements in the first instance as to the increase of trade in other places. (Hear.) He would first take the port of Hull, because attention had been particularly directed to that port, and because it had been stated not only in this town but in other towns, that the port of Hull was taking away a great part of our commerce, particularly the salt trade. (Hear, hear:) He looked upon these statements as altogether visionary, more especially when the railway which was shortly expected to run through the district called the Wyches, would enable parties to bring salt down to Li verpool, and at once put it on board the exporting ship, without the delay now caused by taking it out of the flat which brought it, and then on board the ship. (Cheers.) A MEMBER asked, what railway was here meant ? Mr. BRAMLEY MOORE replied, it was a projected line, running through the salt districts in Cheshire, which, by communication with other lines, would enable the wag gons to come right upon the dock quays. He would now state the tonnage of Hull : Year. Tons. I Year. Tons. 1838. 503,000 I 1842 1839. -- 1840...... , I 1841 .... 660,000 1845 ....710,000 It would be perceived fro this statement that the in crease in the last two years in the port of Hull had been only about 80,000 tons, a circumstance to which be par ticularly called attention ; because there were at Hull new works in the course of construction upon rather an expensive scale, and of some magnitude, in anticipation of an increase of trade, and the want of dock accommo dation. He, therefore, begged the Council particularly to notice that the increase there had been 85,000 tons only. (Hear, hear.) He regretted exceedingly having been disappointed in obtaining returns from the port of Bristol ; but he could state so far that, if he had them, they would be very much to the same purpose. Having done this, he would now take the Council to the port of London. The following was the tonnage which had passed through the several docks in the year ending 31st De cember, 1845 : Tons. East and West India D0ck5............ 333,503 St. Katherine's Dock. . . 157,191 London Docks . 273,795 . 764,4E9 .This statement, compared with that for the year 1843, two years ago, showed an increase of 154,378 tons, which was the amount of the total increase of the East and West India Docks, the London Docks, and the St. Ka therine's. This was the increase for two years, let it be remembered. lie had to request the members of the Council to bear this statement in mind, because, in order to show them the improvement of the trade here, and its rapid increase, he proposed in the next place to give the port of Liverpool ; and he had to state, and he did so with feelings of peculiar pleasure and pride, that as far as re garded increase, the port of Liverpool eclipsed the whole of them. (Applause.) H e should state a fact altogether unprecedented in the annals of the country as connected with the increase of towns. Surprise had been expressed by members of the Council when they talked of an in crease of 100,000 tons ; but he did not now compute its increase by one hundred thousand but by hundreds of thousands. In the annual statement of the Dock Com mittee ending June 24, 1845, the financial year, the in crease was there reported to be 383,819 tons over the preceding year. (Hear.) But the six months from June up to the 31st December last exceeded that, or that of any former period, inasmuch as it showed an increase of no less than 600 vessels and of 209,409 tons. (Great ap plause.) If this were taken and added to the previous in crease it.would be perceived that in about two years the increase of the port of Liverpool. in point of tonnage, ex ceeded that of the entire of the London Docks. (Hear, hear.) It exceeded the entire trade that passed through the East and West India, the St. Katherine, and the London Docks, although those docks had all the advan tages of 'flaying warehouses round them. (Hear.) Con nected with this subject he begged at the same time to mention that the increase in money during the last six months over the corresponding six months of the previous year, amounted to £X6,076 17s. 9d—from June to De cember; a startling fact when he reminded the Council that the rates had been decreased. Mr. RATUBONE here asked for the exact figures, and they were mentioned again. Mr. BRAMLEY MOORE, in continuation, said, in order that this increase might be properly appreciated he must remind the Council that it embraced a period when the dock dues had been lowered upon all distant voyages, such as China, the East Indies, and South America, from 2s. 3d per ton to ls. Gd. This fact should be born in mind, because 9J. per ton was a very large reduction. (Hear.) These figures he thought bad shown that Liver pool was progressing in a ratio beyond that of any other port in the kingdom, and that what he bad stated would alone be sufficient to induce the Council to sanction the plans he had the honour to submit on behalf of the Dock Committee. (Hear.) What was there indeed to put limits on the progress of the port of Liverpool ? When we considered that the China trade was but in its infancy —that we had there but just opened a new commercial world where there were 300 millions of inhabitants, that the East India trade was very much upon the increase, and that the western trade belonged peculiarly to Liver pool—and when, he added, these two last trades in par ticular had increased more than ever—these circumstances alone were a sufficient answer to the allegation of no fur ther dock accommodation being required. (Hear.) There bad been in every department of trade from different parts of the world an increase in the tonnage, with the exception of the Brazils, the West Indies, and the Gulf of Mexico, the decrease in which was of so very trifling a _nature as not to be worth mentioning, But he would more especially cal attention to the East India and China trade and the trade with the Western World, which he must say belonged exclusively to the port of Liverpool —and which could never be taken from us unless our channels were filled up. The increase in the East India tonnage had been twenty per cent ; on the United States and Western trade it was about 30 per cent ; and the fact of these two particular branches having increased more than any other, was deserving of particular notice. He might add to this, and say, that as we give increased accommodation so we should draw trade to the port. (Hear, hear.) Suppose at no distant period, which he dared say would be the case, we should have a modified tariff of duties upon Coffee, Sugar, and other foreign pro ductions at present excluded by the very high tariff upon them ; when these euties were reduced, it was not in the power of man to divine what dock accommodation would be required in a port like Liverpool. He was aware it was said that so large a portion of our trade came from the western world, in ease of a war we should lose a great portion of it; but war in his opinion would be the means of increasing it, because Liverpool would then become the port of England. It would be the only safe and approch. able port in the event of war; for, in consequence of the introduction of steam in warfare, vessels would be able to come under protection all the way to Liverpool, when they would never think at all of venturing down the chan nel. So far then as the advantages of increased accommo dation went, he thought he bad stated sufficient on that head. There was one branch of trade to which he would now call particular attention, having already referred to it, and that was the timber trade. It bad been stated in that Council, that the timber trade 'was a declining trade in the town of Liverpool. It had also been stated by a member of that Council before the House of Lords, that this trade was supposed to have seen its maximum in Liverpool, and that it could not be an increasing trade. He need Only state one fact connected with the timber trade to tibew its importance generally to the country— namely, that there were more artificers of eighteen years of age employed in the timber trade than in any single THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. trade or occupation in the kingdom. This fact alone was sufficient to stamp the importance of this trade ; and so far from its being a declining trade in this town, he had every reason to believe that as increased facilities were given for taking timber into the country, so would the trade be pushed beyond its present limits. Hitherto there had been no accommodation for it at the north end at all—at least comparatively none, because while there were only 100,000 tons at the north end, there were 1,300,000 tons at the south. But when increased facilities were given at the north by the railways making there for carrying the timber away, not only would it go there, which it could without expense, but from the north it would go to all the districts where the Liverpool, Bolton, and Bury railway, (hear, bear, from Mr. James Brancker,) and the intended Liverpool, Ormskirk, and Preston railway, would run, and would find a mart in every place connected with those lines. At present it might be said the timber trade met at Birmingham because it came there just in collision with the port of Gloucester : but Liverpool being a much greater and more important port, it would in all probability push the trade beyond Birmingham. At all events, the trade was a very increasing one, and it would continue to increase so long as the Grand Junction railway followed the wise policy which they had latterly done, of reducing their rates of carriage. He had before him a very elaborate document, which it would take too much time to read entire, and therefore he would read only the heads of it, for which he was indebted to a gentleman whose accuracy he was sure every one would appreciate when he stated it had been drawn up by Mr. Rankin. From this document the Council would see the number of vessels, and their tonnage, employed exclusively in the timber trade in the port of Liverpool, from 1838 to the present year; and he ought to mention that all vessels bringing other cargoes, besides timber, had been entirely excluded : Year No. of Vessels Tons 1838 305 • . 160,030 1839 .. 339 • . 170,000 1840 .. 230 .. 174,000 1841 318 • • 174,000 1842 • • 165 91 1843 316 107 ,000 ,000 1844 367 .. 188,000 1845 440 .. 234,000 It was in 1844 that the timber trade was said to be on the decline : yet it would be seen, that in 1845 there had been an enormous increase both in ships and tonnage. This table alone would be sufficient to show the council the importance of the timber trade, and how inadequate had been the accommodation afforded to it in this port. There had been an extraordinary increase in several par ticular descriptions of timber. One of these was ma hogany, to which the Dock Committee particularly directed their attention some four or five years ago, with the view of affording more accommodation. He would give, for the last three or four years, the increase in pieces and feet, commencing with 1838, because he had commenced the return of the ships and tonnage with that year : Year. Feet and Pieces. Year. Feet and Pieces. 1838 15 millions 184 2 9 millions 1839 - 16 ~ 1843 1 7 1840 11 ~ I 1844 21 „ 1841 16 ~ I 1845 30 „ Comment upon this was unnecessary, and it would be unnecessary for him to say another word to make out a case to show the necessity for increased accommodation. It had been stated in that Council more than once or !twice, that the dearness of the port of Liverpool was against its interest, and that it was dearer in port charges than other places. Now in order to afford gentlemen an opportunity of ascertaining the dearness of the port of Li verpool, he bad brought with him a parliamentary return of last year, containing the charges at every other port in the kingdom, and it would be proved, on comparing all their charges, that Liverpool was a very moderate an oleheap port. He need not go further with this subject, but he would lay the book on the table for the inspection of any gentleman who chose to examine it. It would be proved that for what was charged in Hull Is. 3c1., we charged ls. ; what was charged 10d., we charged 9d. ; and that what was charged ls. 9d. per ton, we only charged Is. 6d. In fact, Is. 6d. was our maximum rate. It would be preposterous to make a comparison of the charges in the port of Liverpool with those of the port of Bristol, because they were so great there as not to require further allusion. London was dearer than Liverpool. There was. one point immediately connected with the necessity of affording increased dock accommodation which be had nearly omitted, and that was the coal trade. The coal trade was a trade wholly and entirely unaccommodated in the port of Lis e-pool. (Hear). He anticipated a vet y large revenue to arise to the dock estate from this branch of business, for which there was at present no accommodation, when the Council took into account the immense and rich zoal-field through which the Liverpool, Bolton and Bury railway passed. (Loud cries of "Hear, hear" from Mr. JAS. BRANCKER.) Without any great stretch of imagination, he thought this same coal trade alone would soon require a dock exclu sively for its accommodation, and for its special and sole use. (Hear, hear.) Liverpool had hitherto exported nothing in the way of coal, because it was only taken out as a matter of convenience in the shape of ballast. About one million tons came into Liverpool annually, yet out of that there had not been in 1842 more than 117,000 tons exported. He had no hesitation in saying from his own experience, that when such facilities were afforded that coal could be brought down and at once put cn board the vessel from the railway trucks, without the expense of cartage, it would become a very important trade in this port. In his own experience, he had frequently been un able to execute orders for coal, and had been obliged to send them to Newcastle and other places, owing to the want of accommodation; but when the railways he bad mentioned were opened, passing as they did through such fields, he anticipated the time, and he should be borne out in saying he was not assuming too much—when we should be able to compete with Newcastle and other places as an exporting place for coal. (Hear.) This, in deed would be very easy when we took into account the immense commerce which Liverpool had with all parts of the world. Here when vessels had nothing to do, the owners preferred laying them up rather than undertake a voyage with a cargo of.coal at the present cost of embarking it at this port ; but when the facilities were given which he had pointed out such vessels would not be allowed to be idle. They would be sent with coal to many different parts of the world, and thus it would be a very easy matter for the tonnage of the port to be increased simply by coal be ing brought into the town so much cheaper. 400,000 or 500,000 tons would be comparatively nothing to export; but the coal trade must of necessity increase, because the demand for it all over the world for steamers was daily increasing. He might therefore venture to say that Li verpool would become a considerable port for the export of coal, and that this trade alone would, at no distant day, require the accommodation of a dock exclusively. (Cheers.) The increase of tonnage which he had shown in the last two years, was equal to the entire tonnage turned out and the business done in George's Dock, King's Dock, Queen's Dock, and Salthouse Dock, in the aggregate. (Cheers.) This fact would give the Council an opportunity of estimating whether the increase which he had brought under their no ice would not give ample oc cupation to every dock now in course of construction ; but to make it more familiar he would confine it to Victoria, Waterloo, Prince's, and George's Docks, which were the four first docks of the port. This increase of tonnage in two years would require as much accommoda tion as those four: docks had afforded during the last year, and they had been unprecedently and inconveniently crowded in the business that had been transacted there. He might reasonably assume that at least 25 per cent. more accommodation would be required than they afford.. ed ; and therefore he said there was ample trade at the present moment to occupy every dock now in course of construction, without at all looking into futurity. But they must look into futurity. Liverpool must take care of her trade; and that Council as trustees of the docks, and he might say trustees of the town, were called upon to see that ample and plentiful provision was made, not only for the existing wants of the port, but for its probable wants. And in doing that they were not to: be influ enced in any way whatever by anything to which he had reason to believe' attention would be called, doing in an. other quarter. (hear, hear.) What they had to do was to provide accommodation for the port of Liverpool, ir respective of whatever might be done on other parts of the Mersey. (loud cheers.) With these views he con fidently and strongly recommended to the protection of the Council the plans now before them. (hear, bear.] He had said enough he thought upon these different heads ; his next proposition therefore would take them to the estimates of the cost, to show that the Dock Committee were not going to pay more than the state of their finances warranted, nor more than the wants of the port demanded. The first point to which he would call atten tion was the valuation. The .valuation of the property had been made by two eminent valuators, of whom it would be sufficient to say he believed they had: rather the credit of over than undervaluing, in order to make sure of their ground. The property had been valued by Mr. Stewart and Mr. Wightmao, consequently no doubt could be raised as regarded the value. He would now take the Council to the estimates. They had already been read, therefore he should be very brief upon them. The total amount, it would be perceived, was £531,0001 from which must be deducted £68,000, to which item he must call particular attention. The reason of this being deducted was, that under the circumstances of the intended rail way, they would have to pull down sundry stacks of buildings, which were marked upon the plan, which would cost about that sum. Whether the proposed plans were carried or not, this expenditure would be necessary in order to carry out the intended railway, the object of which, as the Council were aa are, was to facilitate and cheapen this port, because, he ventured to say, the utility of the Albert Dock warehouses, without a railway communi cating with them, on which the trucks could be brought,_ and the merchandize be conveyed direct to Manchester, or any other place, wi'thout incurring one farthing's ex pHe e n s l e o i o n k e c d a r t u a p g o e n , w t o h t e o 1 d r a b i be w v a e y r , t n h much f o d e i e n: i e n s i s o h e nmat t d e e r e do f . absolute necessity for that purpose, whether this plan of eehoppeodin to t extension should be carried or not ; and it was not aasuming too much to deduct the amount :from the o estimate accommodation of the cost which of making Dock the Cmi o docks. m Another tt obtain, and about which they thought there would be no difficulty with the proper authorities, would be an addi the tional street for the accommodation of the public to the eastward of the proposed works. The Dock Committee; of course, were not called upon to provide for the im provement of the town ; and they apprehended there would be no difficulty on this subject, because the im provement was so apparent, but the advantages of it so great. No difficulty on this point could therefore arise. The next thing to which he would call attention was the estimated cost of the new works. The cost of the dock, and the limproverrients at Wapping, would be £463,186, which would include an area of 5 acres 235 square yards. Then 'the railway would cost £63,400 making a total of £531,586, and a total area of 8 acres 478 yards, including 1 acre 1671 yards of water. , Mr. W. EARLE. — What kind of acres ? Mr. BRAMLEY-MOORS—Statute acres. Mr. EARLE—It is as well to know, for sometimes it is convenient to call them Cheshire acres. Mr. BRAMLEY-MOORE said, they were not in the habit of doing so. This would make a total of 8 acres 478 yards, at a cost of £457 per lineal yard. Now, in order that the subject might be properly understood, he must call the attention of the Council to the cost of other works which had been erected in the town, because that would form a very good criterion to many who were not so well acquainted with dock works as the members of the Dock Committee. The cost of the present works, then, would be £457 per lineal yard. The Prince's Dock cost £670,000, or £564 per lineal yard, therefore, they would perceive that the Prince's Dock cost 25 per cent. more than the proposed improvements. The North Docks, which were now in course of erection, would c , st about £221 per lineal yard—the Albert Dock would cost £353 per lineal yard, or about 25 per cent. less than the proposed scheme ; but, on the other hand, the Prince's . Clock cost 25 per cent. more, which must be taken into account, and the Brunswick dock cost £325 per li?ieal yard. Therefore, when they took and made an average of those works, they would find the proposed works more moderate than could be anticipated —more especially when they took into account the densely populated state of the neighbourhood. It had been thought by some persons that the population was so dense that it was totally impossible to carry out the new plans. He (Mr. Moore) would therefore state, that the number of houses to be pulled down amounted to 146, and if they took into account the cellars which were occupied as separate dwel lings, there would be 285 ; but excluding these, the num ber was as he had stated, 246. With respect to the ware houses, he should leave that subject to be treated by his friend Mr. Nicol, who was better acquainted with its details than he (Mr. Moore) could be. When, however, they took into account the cost of the new works, and the number of families who would have to be displaced, they would find the subject was not as difficult as many were led to believe, nor would they find the works so difficult, on comparing them with what had been done in London. The London docks, excluding from con sideration the St. Katherine's and East and West India docks, cost £4,000,000 of money ; 1 300 houses were pulled down, and 2,000 families,aad to be removed. Now, when the Council took to account the enormous amount of property taken, and the great number of of families removed, they would not be startled at the number taken here, and the state of the property, houses which would be much better removed than as they now are. As to the effect of such removal on the health of the town he should say nothing, but would leave his friend, Mr. Tinne, to deal with that, merely adding that he thought their removal would be of very great advan tage. (Hear, hear.) The next step would be to call the attention of the Council to the state of the Finances of the dock estate, for he trusted he had satisfactorily shown that further accommodation was necessary, and he (Mr. Moore) would undertake to show, with equal satisfaction, that they were in a position, from the state of their finan ces, to undertake some great work. It had been stated on a former occasion, that the Dock Committ ee h a d no surplus revenue, hut he (Mr. Moore) was happy to state, that they had a very large one, not only for the current expenses of repairs, but also quite opal to pay interest on the whole of their projected improvements without in creasing their dock rates at all. The surplus revenue of the dock estate for the past year was £99,023 3s. sd. A MEMBER.—For the pear ending 31st December? Mr. BRAMLEY MOORS.—That was for the financial year ending 24th June last. Now in that was included £43,000 for repairs, which bad been unusually heavy during the past year. The average of the repairs, &c., were generally something under £30,000, therefore, in ar riving at the surplus of £99,000, they should deduct the sum of £43,000. To that must be added. and be felt as sured he should have the sanction of one gentleman pre sent for doing so, the profit on the Albert dock, which was at present entirely unproductive. The profit of that dock had been estimated before a Committee of the House of Lords and Commons. at £38,000. He (Mr. Bramley Moore,) was, however, willing to take it at £30,000, which reckoning the present surplus, as it imight be, in round numbers, at £lOO,OOO, would make a cle a r s u r pl us income of £130 , 000, and he felt quite sure by the time that dock was in operation it would exceed that. Under these circumstances he thought the bond-holders would have no cause for alarm, but would be perfectly satisfied with the state of their affairs. The present bonded debt was £2,500,000, and they could bear as much as would make it £4,000,000, at which it might be taken in round numbers. Therefore, with their present surplus, they might very safely undertake not only the works now in progress, but they were at liberty to do a great deal more, if the trade of the port should hereafter require it. He considered they were called upon to de this, because so long as they afforded the necessary accommodation in the town of Liverpool for the trade of the port, so long would they keep the trade of the potft at Liverpool, and on this side of the Mersey. He, therefore, thought after the statement be had made to them connected with the state of dock affairs, that they were in & position not only to undertake the works now proposed, but that no alarm need be entertained that they were either going into diffi culties, or into schemes of too gigantic a scale. His own opinion was, that they could not do that for the trade of the port had increased, and he had no hesitation in saying it would increase, therefore, he looked upon those who would get up the cry of alarm to the bondholders as . _ pursuing a scheme purely chimerical and visionary. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) There was another matter to which he wished to draw the attention of the Council, and that was, that during the progress of the works the Salthouse Dock would only have in be closed for about three months. The next subject to which he would call their attention was the Manchester Basin. He had said enough with regard to the wan: and necessity for further dock accommodation, and with regard to the finances of the Dock Committee ; and, therefore, he would only briefly allude to the proposed plan at the Manchester Basin, the object of which was to provide such accom modation as would enable them to take away produce either by land or water conveyance. It was not the inten tion of the Dock Committee to take the whole of that to themselves, but to afford sheds and other facilities for carriers. This would also, from its proximity, afford increased accommodation for the working of the Albert warehouses. There was only one other point to which he wished to draw the attention of the Council, and that was the subject of taking power to widen the new dock at the south end, and to make a straight line, so as to have larger quay space, from Sefton-street. They would then have a dock equal to the Brunswick Dock, which was the very best timber dock they could have. This was a small matter, but it was absolutely necessary for the im provement of that land. Having gone through the whole which he thought necessary connected with the want of dock accommodation, and with respect to the estimates, he woold 'just remind the Council of what be had said with repect to the bonded debt and the surplus revenue. The enormous increase in the amount of the tonnage of the timber trade showed the great in crease of it—in fact, it was impossible to carry it on without further accommodation, and therefore it was absolutely necessary to do every thing they could to ac commodate it. Lastly, he wined again to call their aWn tion to another trade—tbecnal trade. They would be im peratively called upon to provide another dock at the north end of the town, for the exclusive use of that trade. This would be of great advantage to that trade, especially after the railway was laid down, as that would afford facilities to carry the coals along the docks to any part of the town, and to put them on board vessels in any of the docks. He was, however, quite convinced that with all this ac commodation they would, before four years had passed, fall far short of affording the accommodation which the port would require. Under these circumstances, it de volved upon him to recommend the proposed plans to the Council for their sanction, and he did so with the convic tion that they were well worthy of such sanction, and that now alone was the time to carry them out, or they would never again have the opportunity. The speaker con cluded by moving that the proceedings of the Dock Com mittee be confirmed, and that they be empowered to take the necessary steps, and prepare a bill, to carry out the plans connected with them. . Mr. ROBINSON seconded the motion. He considered' the proposed plans would afford very great accommoda tion to the trade of the port. The scheme was a most comprehensive one, and one which the town very much needed. It would bring the docks into complete con nection with each other, so that a vessel could get from one dock to another without the danger of going into the river in stormy - weather. As respected the proposed ac commodation for the coal trade, he thought that was the weakest point of the case, as it was not a trade ever likely to require a dock for its accommodation. He should, however, wish to see George's Dock widened, for on the west side of that there was much land lying waste, which, if turned into water space, would be much more useful, and also the Albert warehouses completed at once, if that were possible. Mr. EVANS had heard, with very great surprise, that they were to have anther open dock, in ad dition to the one hundred ,and eight acres of docks al ready in existence, and eighty acres which were in course of construction, and which had not yet been brought into play. The latter had not been at all taken into calcula tion, and he maintained they would provide accommoda tion for what would arise according to even the most san guine anticipation. He did not deny that the plan was a very good one for the ground, and would have answered very well numbers of years ago ; but the ancient policy of -Liverpool had been not to run the risk of overdoing the docks, because an empty dock re-acted upon the others in the form of a charge. Now, the proposed dock would cost 100 per cent. higher than the rates they now had. He had arrived at a calculation, and he understood from his friend on his right that he was right, that the average in come of the docks was about £2,000 an acre. Now, the object of the Dock Committee ought to he, to keep down the port charges ; but, if they went on consuming the surplus in the manner they were, they would find them selves one day in such a position that they could not re duce the dock rates, and it would be impracticable to augment them. When they were owing £4,000,000 of money, as was admitted, and which he looked upon as the minimum, the interest on that, the annual average cost of repa;rs which he had beard Mr. Hartley declare, could not be reckoned at less than £3s,ooo—when to that they added the cost of the repairs upon the new docks, which would arise in time, and the expense of keeping up the whole with dock masters and all sorts of things, be thought they would not be far off an outlay of £250,000. Now, he had heard it stated in a very surprising sort of way that war would increase our commerce. That could only be asserted by those who knew nothing, from their own observation, about it (hear, hear). He recollected being told by a person who was in Liverpool during the last American war, that whole ranges of ware houses were empty, sad the docks were so scarce of ship ping that boats were to be seen in full sail in them. But what sort of war would they have next? It would be with one' nation ; and he was of opinion it would reduce the commerce of the port not less than two-thirds. However, the surveyor of , the docks—a man of very great genius —however he might suggest improvements, and be (Mr. Evans) had no doubt he could do that adinfinilum, because be bad a penchant for building docks, it behoved the Council to weigh well the point to which dock affairs were coming —it behoved the Council, as guardians of the dock estate, to weigh well those circumstances, which, in all probability, the sur veyor had not taken into his consideration. He (Mr. Evans) did think it would be utterly indefensible to go into any measure that would augment the dock rates. They had heard a great deal respecting the finances of the dock estate for the past year, but that ought to be looked upon as an exception. There was no question but they had, during the past year, had an undue excitement in the country; and he had heard it stated, that hundreds of houses had been built in 1845, which it was very duubtfol whether they would ever be tenanted. Now those who were acquainted with Liverpool knew, that for one year of excitement they had five of 'astride. It was exceedingly probable that docks, in the position proposed, would, from their central situation, have the preference over others, but if they did they would render others empty, which would increase the charge upon others Another point he called attention to was the fact that every small port in the kingdom would become a rival to Liverpool, owing to the general establishment of railways. A great deal had been said about affording additional ac commodation to the timber trade. Now he thought they continued to do this at a less. He believed that trade to be very greatly favoured in that respect, and there was nothing which would feel more injuriously the effects of any approach to increased port charges than that trade. The speaker then condemned the alteration proposed on the Harrington estate, by which they would have to drag the timber up hill instead of its being on level ground. Now, with regard to this trade, he thought Birkenhead would supply any deficiency there might be in accom modation, and he had heard it stated, that much of their proceedings, particularly in agitating new docks, and hurrying every thing to parliament in this gigantic way—he had heard it said that it was to pull down and master Birkenhead or to compel the parties to call upon the Liverpool authorities to resume the purchase. lie trusted that would not be the case, for he should be very sorry to see the commerce of England revert to those wporn it was very probable would endeavour to burk the advantages of the localities. Now the great advantage of Birkenhead would be that they, if they managed their matters pro perly, would give the timber trade wharfs so that he con sidered 'so far from wishing to put down the docks on "the other side of the Alersey, that they would be the means of protecting the estuary and preserve a good deal of the trade of the port which would otherwise be lost to it. He, however, objected to the new scheme because there was no provision for warehouses on the quays. He had had some experience as a member of the Improvement Committee, in the pur chase of land, and he would say don't give £lO or £l2 per square yard, but go and build warehouses upon your old docks where the land will cost you nothing. He therefore said it was the duty of the Council to refrain from constructing any open dock until they could ac company it with the desired warehouses. Now he would ' have warehouses on every side of the docks and not on one side only; but the present site was not suffic'ent for warehouses .as there would only be about 35 feet left for them, and it would require at least 100 feet. If the Council resolved on accepting the plans he should cer tainly move that no docks be made without the accom panyment of warehouses. He should here be told that these bad been a compact entered into with the ware house owners. That he took the liberty of denying, and, in addition to his own testimony, read a letter from Mr. Robertson Gladstone, as chairman of the sub-committee, to show that the clause in the Albert Dock Act related to docks already in existence. He expressed his opinion that if the Council agreed to the proposal to construct a dock without warehouses it would not be permitted out of doors, and after observing that the Council were but im perfectly i❑formed, as to the details of the proposed plan, he concluded with moving, as an amendment, that the subject be deferred until the next Council. After some conversation the amendment was altered, sO as to fix the day for that day fortnight Mr. RATHBONE seconded the amendment. He urged upon the Council the necessity of delay before they ex pended so large a sum as that proposed, to see the effectof the dock accommodation on the other side of the water, where, in a few years, there would be 100 acres of dock space, and also, if possible, to try the effect of lower dock rates. Mr. ALDERMAN NICOL said, with regard to the want of infortiatiou which had been complained of, the very same means had been adoptad on the present as on all former occasions, to afford information, and as to the value of the property, at the period of the adjournment, the Council could not be in a better position than at pre sent. The Dock Committee had laid before them the es timated value of the property, as ascertained by Mr. Stewart, and Mr. Wightman, and no better valuation could be obtained. With regard to the complaint of Mr. Evans, that they had departed from the ancient custom of waiting until the trade of the port overtook them, he thought if the Dock Committee deserved any credit at all, it was for their departure from that ancient policy and going on to provide for the future wants of the trade. Now, what was the conduct of Mr. Evans, the declared champion of the warehouse principle? Why he came forward, after he had bound the Dock Committee hand and foot, so that they could not move with respect to warehouses on the dock quays, and objected to their pro ceeding because it did not embrace a plan f,r building warehouses ! He (Mr. Nicol) however thought there was some distinction between the proposed dock and those already in existence, and the Council were aware that the Dock Committee would not proceed with the Albert warehouses until after a given time. Now was a convenient time, and he thought the opportunity a favour able one for warehouse owners to come forward when the bill was before Parliament, and permit claims to be inserted, not only to allow the Albert warehouses to be finished at once, but also to allow power to be obtained for the erection of a line of warehouses on the east side of the new dock. As to the increase of dock rates, there was no fear of that, and his friend, the Chairman of the Dock Committee, had shown that at present they were not much in excess of any other port; and he (Mr. Nicol) doubted very much whether they were higher than any place in the kingdom. He, however, thought what the Dock Committee had to do was to gi7e additional facili ties and accommodation to the port, and he thought no thing could be better than the plan of laying down rails along the docks. A great deal, too, had been said about the want of depots for the timber trade ; but that argu ment was exceedingly well met by the fact of there being a railway along the sides .of the docks, which would enable the merchants to take it away at once from the ships to any part of the town or the kingdom. Mr. Evans had, however, laid great stress upon the increase of the trade of the port during the past year, which he argued to be an unnatural state of things, owing to th e excitement which prevailed from railway speculation. Now, what was the fact? Since that excitement bad subsided the trade of the port had improved ; but the trade had not increased in the same proportion during the a t s o it 11 7 8, 6100 d d during ri n in g t l b B e 44 former to x9y7.eaoroso whilst ; for, n itlB in 43 t , he year was, therefore, evident that the excitement of the railways had distracted the attention of those engaged in com apmasot just euyntea ended (1845) it only increased to £2,000. It year, com merce. Mr. Evans had stated that if war took place trade would fall off; but there was another matter to be considered, and that was, that if trade did fall oft ships would require dock room ; for it was a fact that during the depression of shipping the docks were more crowded than at present, and during war, if they required.less sea room, they would need more dock space. With respect to there not being space enough for warehouses on the east side of the proposed dock, he was of opinion that those at the Albert Dock were inconveniently wide, and much narrower would be more useful. He did not anti cipate any rivalry from the other side of the water, except such as he hoped would be friendly for both sides, but it would be a great fallacy for s tradesman to give himself no trouble to accommodate his customers . on the ground that another shop was about to be opened in the adjoining street. After alluding to the probable increase in the corn trade, as anticipated by some parties, Mr. Nicol concluded by deprecating delay. Mr. PARKER said he would have supported the amend ment if he had thought it had been honest or straight forward, but its object was solely to defeat so good a scheme. 'Mr. EA RLE replied to Mr• Parker, but approved of the scheme if warehouses could be built around the docks. Mr. STEWART approved of the scheme, but thought the quay space hardly sufficient for warehouses. The es timated value :of the property which be and Mr. Wight man had made, was, however, only an approximation. Mr. J. H. TURNER and Sir THOMAS BR tNCKER approved of the scheme, but spoke in favour c f ware houses. . Mr. BRAMLEY MOORS replied, and after some further conversation the Council divided, when there appeared for the amendment, Four • against it, 36. For the amendment, Messrs. Rathbone, J. Holmes, end Evans. Against it, Messrs W. Atherton, J. Shaw, J. Brancker, Chalmer, Middleton, Littledale, Tinne, Hende son, Stewart, Toulmin, Robinson, G. G. Hornby, Boyden, Pemberton, J. N. Wood , Kaye, Kilshaw, J. B. Lloyd, J. Hornby, Parker, Earle, Booker, Plump ton, Glazebrook, Mann, T. Lloyd, R. Houghton, James Lawrence, Sir Thomas Brancker, J. H. Turner, Nicol, J. Bramley Moore, Alolyreux, J. S. Leigh, Chilton, and the Mayor. Mr.- EVANS then moved, that the Town-clerk should give his opinion, and, if necessary, take counsel's opinion , upon the construction of the clause in the Albert Dock Act relating to the warehouses. This was not, however, put as a motion, it being understood, however, that the Town-clerk should not do so. Mr. EVANS then moved another amendment, to the effect that the Council should not approve of the scheme without warehouses on the quay, and that the measure be referred back for that purpose. Mr. J. HoLmns seconded the - amendment. Mr. EARLE wished Mr. Evans to withdraw the amendment, it being understood that the question was under the consideration of the Dock Committee, who wcre anxious for the introduction of powers to erect warehouses. Mr. EVANS, however, declined, and, after some con versation on the subject, the second amendment was put and lost, the numbers being three for it, viz., Mr. Chalmer, Mr. Evans, and Ml.. Procter. and thirty-four against, including the seconder, Mr. J. Holmes. The original motion was then put and carried, and the Council adjourned at a quarter past three. A paragraph in the Chester Courant and other papers, which we dopy in another c o l umn , s t a t es th a t the Che s t er and Birkenhead Railway has been leased to the London and Birmingham Grand Junction, or Chester and. Holy- head. We have inquired into the report since the para graph was in type and find tbe fact to be that the Chair man of the Chester and Birkenhead railway• without, as we understand, the sanction-of the beard, offered.tbe line to all these patties, but that it bas been declined by each.