Northern Times. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-05-12 00:00:00

SPECIAL COUNCIL. A special meeting of the Town Council was held in the Town-hall, at eleven o'clock, yesterday, for the purpose of taking into consideration the report of the special committee upon town improvements. The Mayor, Wm. Preston, Esq., presided. Before the proceedings of the day were gone into, Mr. Steains asked permission to correct an error which had been made in the nomination of a churchwarden for St. Luke's church. Mr. Beets was desirous of retiring, In consequence of ill-health, and it was decided that the name of Mr. Samuel Abbott should be substituted. By an error, however, this had not been done, and the name of Mr. Beets was continued. He therefore moved that permission be given by the council to correct the error, and substitute the name of Mr. Abbott. The motion was agreed to The council then proceeded to consider the report of Ow special committee, which, having been printed and circa. lated, was taken as read. Mr. Earle said, as the committee were desirous of havirq the fullest aid and information from the council, he move( that the council go into committee fur the purpose 'of 'con. sidering the subject. Mr. Alderman Bennett seconded the motion, which was agreed to. The following letter on the snhjeet was read To the Mayor, Alderm en, and Members of the Town Council of t Borough of Liverpool. _ . in November last, pray!!l DU of the Pur with a view to the formation of a p (as the parties who were chiefly i. memorial) again to crave your att :1 for ordinary bail remainder should be kimilarlyilispo t will l hat could possibly happen to tlu working classes generally, and particularly to those resident at the south end of the town. With regard to the proposed boulevards, we do not presume to offer any opinion, further than to express our hope, that if either of the two plans are carried out, it may b( the one nearest to the town, which, if embracing a large opei space at each extremity, the Parliament Fields being the souther' terminus, and a similar public park and p!ay-ground at the norti 4Bne of the great and teithin far as West Deby offer to the resicieir wealthy inhabitants dvantages such an undertaking may outskirts of •ti.e.fown, and to the it would be altogether too far re- moved from the-dw the information aff far their use or benont, sided us whilst obtaining signatures to 1, that we ' —.resent the general the former memor,.., rairly feelings of the working men of. Liverpool, we venture mo: humbly and respectfully to submit this expression of our wam and wishes to the favourable consideration of your honourabl Council. Mr. Earle said he differed with the opinions expressed in that letter. A good part of the nearer boulevard was already encumbered with buildings, and would not have anything like the appearance which the outer boulevard would have. The Borough. Engineer had stated the ad vantages of the two, and he (Mr. Earle) thought those of the outer were greatly preponderating. On the 4th of April last, there was a very long article in the London Times which began by stating, " We want a new London." Now that, he thought, was the case with Liverpool. They would want a new Liverpool before many of them knew where they were, and he, therefore, thought it was high time that some steps should be taken for the improvement of the town. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Alderman Gardner was glad Mr. Earle approved of the plan he had mentioned. It was against Mr. Earle's own interests, but he believed it to be for the public advan- It would be a very important plan for drainag, Eight, or ten years ago adopt No. 2, but he the - should have been very happy - t it it quite impossible now. N one could erect a resident Al, with any hope of bein secured himself by buyina. large property all round. II much preferred the outer aulevard. Mr. Bennett said, in order that they might have some thing before them to discuss, he begged to move that the plans, as laid before them that morning, and more particularly that portion comprised in the outer boulevard, be referred back to the improvement committee, and to report further upon, on the score of practidabilty and expense, so that they might have it before them in a more complete form than it was at present. lie considered, with his friend Mr. Gardner, that it was an important feature of the whole scheme that, to go nearer to the town with the boulevard would be short-sighted policy. The advantages of the outer boulevard were many. In the. first place, it would be for many years rural, which one placed nearer by half a mile to the town would not. Again, it formed the natural area of drainage, and it was this important feature of drainage th a t first suggested it to the favourable con sideration of the borough engineer. As regarded the memorial which had just been read, he regretted that the parties writing it did not take a larger view of the subject. The streets along the outer boulevard would be wide and open streets, and would yield great pleasure to those walking along. it; and, no doubt,rthere would be many omnibuses starting along the margin of the boulevards, so that, for a trifling sum, they would be able to get into the most pleasant part of the country.. Mr. Gardner said he' had great pleasure in seconding the motion Mr. Hodson said he differed entirely from Mr. Bennett, aid asked if his motion would eschew entirely the boule vard No. 2 ? The Town-clerk said it would not bind the council to any thing Mr. Frodson said it struck him very forcibly, that if they were to have a boulevard round Liverpool, it was more for the classes in the centre of the town than those in the outskirts ; and a great object of the improvement committee was a sanitary one, and he thought that the nearer these boulevards were to the town, the more conducive would they be to the health of the people ; and he hoped as any expence gone to in this matter would have reference to that subject, that it would be secured. But as he was anxious to hear the opinions of other gentlemen who had given the subject a fuller consideration, he would refrain from making any further remarks till the discussion was further advanced Mr. Gladstone said he could see no objection whatever to the consideration of the report being referred back to the special improvement committee. There was no doubt that the report contained "some most valuable suggestions, and not only valuable, but absolutely necessary, because he quite agreed that the period had arrived when some very important changes were necessary in the construction of their streets. He would only now remark upon one suggestion contained in the report, and to which he had hitherto taken exception, and after some reflection he remained of the same opinion still with reference to it. It was in regard to the Moll level bridge. It was not now the time t o go i n t o that par ticular branch of the subject. On some future oc casion it might be necessary for him to do so. When that idea was first mooted, it wa confinec and regarded as a 'matter of local interest, imme diately affecting those who had property in the immediat vicinity of this proposed bridge. But if the suggestion wa to be entertained by the council, and the work to he carrie out, then it became a matter of general interest, because i would have to 'be paid for out of the rates. And could not satisfy his mind that Toxteth-park distriei for instance, would be satisfied to be called upon to contribut some £lOO,OOO for the purpose of carrying out this object but be that as it might, it was his own individual opinion and he might . be mistaken, they should be very glad to have the whole matter quietly discussed, for the purpose o ultimately seeing what plan was the best to be carried out. He presumed the course would be for the committee to go veryclosely into the recommendations of the report, and when they had finished their operations, make a special resolution to that council, pointing out any alterations and improve ments which they thought were specially required But to advise that council to take up a scheme involving a million and a half of money, without giving the council and the people time- to consider it irf all its details, would be perfectly futile. The recommendations should he placed before the public, that .they might fully consider them. Then, when the council would take up the whole subject again, they would be in a position to have before them the opinion of the community as to what was really desirable. It would again be one particular point in this subject, while they were all indebted to Mr. Earle for the trouble he had taken on this subject (hear, hear), he did hope that whatever. was done with any land, the principle of payment,. where property was taken, they should be able in some shape to make the pro prietors of such property bear a portion of the expense. (Hear, hear.) Because really, if the people were alone to be looked to to bear this expense, he thought th os e h av i ng property, which might be rendered two-fold valuable by the carrying out of the plan, ought to pay some proportion of the rate. Ihe hoped some such basis of calculation as would secure this would be adopted. (Rear, hear.) Mr. James Holm° said he could not quite agree with the resolution proposed by Mr. Bennett He thought a middle course might be adopted, which would give more satisfac tion to the public at large. He sugge s t e d t h at a b ou l evar d running by,- what might be looked upon as the future boun dary of Liverpool. The two points were —one, the great , e a n n;i m kt boundary road being made by Lord D erby, and Mlet-lane, on the 'North end and Ullet - l ane at th e Southiel d would not do to bring this matter b efore the public, them at once for the money. If they could accompli s h one of these boulevards, they would accomplish a great object for the town. Mr. Anthony said, if the outer boundary plan was earrici 'out, he thought that 'West Derby, and the rural district of West Derby, would most likely join in some part of the drainage. A health committee was about to be formed for the districts of West Derby, Stanley, and Tuebrook. If that committee should be formed, the council might consult then on the subject. _ _ _ Mr. Acison said, there was no one going from Liver pool into Toxteth lark but would be struck with one fact, the great mistake of former councils not having purchased that — valuable land on the west side of the Park-road, and thereby securing one of the most beautiful parks that any town could possess. He believed the corporation might have purchased it, some years ago, at a trifling. sum, from Lord Sefton. But many people now living would say that, they would then have have thought it madness to parchase land • for a park so far out of Liverpool. He was inclined to think with Mr. James Holme that, an intermdiate course might he adopted. Boulevard No. 2, would be, in a few years, to all intents and purposes, a portion o f th e town, and if they went a little further it would retain its rural character for many years to come. It would be unwise in the council to seek to carry out such schemes as were laid down in the report without giving the town of Liverpool some opportunity of speaking on the question. Ire thought it was of the greatest importance that there should be a con siderable delay, to allow the scheme to be well discussed by the people. Mr. Mozley thought the object of 'die_ committee had probably been mainly attained by the ventilation of the plans. lie believed they were met :en their hands 'hey on by giving a sanction ) their Proceeding.:te obtain some inc4e Matured and defi nite plans •;e improvements were ie time had arrived wk undoubtedly grapple with the subject in it bold and comprehensive scheme. (Hear, hear.) At the present moment, any opinions they were enabled to 'form, 137 ere necessarily of too crude a nature to permit the council to embark in any specific scheme. He therefore trusted that Mr. Bennett would shape his motion so as to refer back the whole subject to the committee, to hring-sorne matured it the followin Resolved, that 6 ornmittee, comprising the report of the borough engineer, be referred to the committee, with instructions to reconsider the whole subject, and to report to the council, as early as possible, what improvement they would recom- and defir ings of tl mend for adoption." Mr. Gladstone presumed it was distinctly understood that in dealing with the matter in this manner the council would not be bound to any specitie plans. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Aikin supposed it would be distinctly understood that, while the committee would have the consideration of the whole subject referred back to them, they would not be confined to the consideration of the present proposals, but that it would be in their province to entertain the question of other improvements, although not mentioned in the plans. (Hear, hear.) There was a great deal of informa tion to be laid before the council and the committee before they could venture to propose any plan of a definite character. He thought it was hardly respectful to the many thousands of memorialifts, who addressed the council some time ago respecting Parliament-fields. (Hear, hear.) To that subject he trusted some consideration would be given. (Hear, hear.) Re hoped it would not be ignored, but that the whole subject would be gone into; and, when the committee had fully informed themselves, that then they would come before the c ounc il aga i n , no t t o .• ay a sc , upon the table for the council's guidance. , Mr. Graves was quite sure there could be no difference of opinion as to the propriety of adopting, if not all, at least many of the suggestions embodied in the report of the came before the council again, it would come on as a question of expen3e mainly, and that that would be the most difficult point they would have to deal with. (Hear, hear.) The most important items in the report were the boulevards ; and it struck him that, if ever they were to be carried into effect, it must be by a combined action on the part of the council and of the landlords through whose property they would run. (Hear, ' hear.) In referring it back to the committee, he hoped the council would give them power to confer with the landlords to whom he had referred. The Town-clerk said that power was already in the hands of the co:nmittee. Mr. Bennett did not see how they could possibly get at the expenses in any other way. He was speaking lately to a very large landowner, Mr. John Shaw Legh, who told him that if the boulevards touched any portion of his land, more or less, he would freely give it. (Cries of " hear," and cheers.) Mr. Ald. Cooper said, before the council became com mitted to any particular scheme, he should wish to see how the money was to be raised for the purpose. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Gardner had said that the first scheme might be made available for a large system of sewerage. He (Mr. Cooper) had had some experience in sewerage for the out skirts, and he was aware that they could sewer—and make a very grand sewer for the the Newsham House estate— without going to any expense of boulevards. He quite agreed with Mr. Gladstone, that if they improved the pro perty of the landlords the landlords ought, for their own interest, to deal liberally with them. If one of the boulevards went through an estate of his, he thought he should be • inclined— although not often very liberal —to be a little liberal in such matters. (Laughter.) He thought his own interest would induce him to do so, but nothing else would. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) Mr. Jeffery said, he simply rose to set the council right lest they should be under a wrong impression. Mr. Cooper had said that he knew something about the mode of draining the Newsham-house estate. It would he gratifying if Mr. Cooper had gone a little further, and told them what it was, for he (Mr. Jeffery) had directed his attention to that subject yesterday, with the borough engineer, and the latter distinctly told him that there were no means whatever of draining the News%am Hodse estate at :a less cost than £12,000, unless some such project as one of the proposed boulevards could be carried out. (Hear, hear.) Now, if Mr. Cooper knew of any other plan, unknown to the borough engineer, it would be very satisfactory that he should inform the council of it. (Hear, hear.) It was of the utmost importance that the committee should proceed with the greatest possible despatch. It would be observed that there was a suggestion that North John street should be continued through Atherton-buildings. Now, he understood that Atherton-buildings had changed hands, and unless steps were taken immediately, it would be too late, for some expensive buildings would be placed upon that site. (Hear, hear.) Unless the committee determined what they would propose to do, and how they would do it, and that speedily, every year would increase their difficulty, and would raise some new obstruction in the way of their carrying out the improvements, thus producing, perhaps, irreparable injury to Liverpool. (near, hear.) Mr. Cooper said, he had had some conversation with Mr. Newlands in reference to the matter, and he was still of the opinion that he had expressed, that the whole matter could be done withoht g oing to all the expense of bouleva r d s or anything else. Still, he would not say that it could be done without cost. Mr. Job said, the approache3 to the river of such a great seaport town like Liverpool, formed part of the natural promenades for boulevards. The motion now before thecouncil the opinions now expressed upon it, I take as a recognition of that principle. The details have been an open question, and I think that we should not be committed to either the first or the second of these boulevards. lam glad to see that the council has recognised these plans. I think the filling up of the George's Dock Basin would be o f grea t b ene fit t o the town. As it stands at present I think it a disgrace to the town. Its present state is most unhealthy, and most unsightly. If the committee could effect that improvement it would confer a great benefit on the town. The—Town-clerk said, one point that the committee were to consider was the means of improving the approaches to the pier-head and landing stages. - -- Mr. R yley thought if the matter was to be postponed from time to time it would not be effected. If they expelled a number of the poor population out of their present houses, they would have to go somewhere, and if proper habitations were provided for them it would be found that they would require a very large area to accommodate them, and then ground now unoccupied would be taken up. He hoped, if the matter was referred back to the eommittee, that they . would act as promptly as possible, as there was not one moment to lose. They would have to pay a rate, no doubt ; and he had no doubt but that the public out of doors would see the necessity for such an improvement. Mr. Steaius said be had no intention of saying a word on the subject when he entered the council room, as he would rather listen to the opinions of others than to offer any opinion of his own. At the present time, however, any one could see that buildings were springing up weekly, almost daily, and what could be at present done for £12,000 would soon cost £50,000 or £OO,OOO. Mr. Dover said he could not allow the subject to pass without making an observation on it. lie would like to ask Mr. Earle- Mr. Earle : Speak up. (Laughter.) Mr. Dover said he was only asking. Mr. Earle to give him the same credit in the matter he had given him, and not to take any of his remarks as applied personally. He knew he I Was going to take rather an unpopular side of the question, i THE NORTHERN TIMES THURSDAN., .MAY 12, 1859 —(hear, hear),—but he did net say he was oppose 4 to it; still he must look it straight in the face. A rate of 2s in the pound was proposed for thirty y ears; bat take the out-townships, Toxteth-park, for instance,—and they would find a rate there of Os in the pound, and if 2s were' put to ss, there 'gas n third of the whole. He would not detract from the gentlemen connected with the matter that degree of popularity which they had obtained for their public spirit in the movement which had been made. He rose not to say a word against the suggestions. He thought them good, but he thought the question was so difficult in its nature that they should not pledge themselves to anything. He would like to have seen the chairman and the depute-chairman of the finance committee, an to hear from them what prospect 'there would be of obtaining the cost of this improvement from the surplus revenue. Re was afraid they would tell them there was nu such surplus. The members of the health committee had suffered great inconvenience by the time of their officers being taken up in making these calculations. He hoped, as these plans were not being carried cut, that they would he very -chary in acting. He that "boulevard'" meant 44 bithi r ark " -he would call the attention of the , onuncil to an instance of a similar project being. carried into effect in his own native city, Dublin. The Circular-read round Dublin was similar in character to the proposed Iloulevard ; and 'at most hours, and almost every day, .a park of artille r y mi g ht b e discharged there without dosg harm to any one. (Laughter). A man might graze his horse upon that road. (Laughter.) Mr. Eagle did not think the instance was at all a parallel one. He was sorry that Dublin was a town rather declining than otherwise, while Liverpool was growing every day. 'r. Riley said, as Mr. Shell had told them what one penny #n the pound would produce, now he should like to ask that gentleman what it produced seven years ago. The increase up to the present time would be a guide to enable the council to conjecture what the progress for the next seven years might be calculated to be. Mr. Shell said he was not prepared to answer that ques tion off hand. He suggested that Mr. Ryley should move for a return. would suggest the-first step to he taken was to ask till public out'of doors their opinion on the matter. He retninded the counal of the great unpopularity of the Rivington scheme, and bre had heard it said if the public .had been consulted in that matter such things would not have occurred. He hoped the public would have an opportunity of expressing their Ipirions at a public meeting to he called ; because, after all, nave to pay. He didnot think that a halfpenny less than 2s in the pound world be sufficient, but he did not rise to throw cold water on the plans submitted. Mr. Steains reminded Mr.Doverofhishavinmsaidthat each member of the council was responsible for his own state ments; and he had never heard stranger statoments, except those of Mr. Dover on the education question at the last council. He talked about a . rate of 2s. in the pound, and a million and a half of money at 4 per cent. Now, 10d. in ?the pound gav'o, £65,000. His experience on the library and museum committee taught him that Id. in the pound produced a rate of £6,530. This proved that a 10d. rate would realise £65.000. which was more then the einmrnt Mr. Jeffery said the present amount might be taken in round numbers •at £6,000. H e b e li eve d h e should be tolerably correct in saying that it was about £4,000 seven - - years ago. After some further conversation the motion, as altered by Mr. Bennett, was put to the vote, and carried unanimously. The council then separated. 0 MONETARY AND -COMMERCIAL, LIVERPOOL, Wednesday Evening. The tone of the Liverpool Cotton Market has been rather quieter to-day, but still a moderate amount of business has been done, the sales reaching 7,000 bales, the whole of which have been taken by the trade. Prices remain the same as yesterday. The Liverpool Share Market has been quiet to day, and prices though nominally the same as yesterday, were barely so firm, as in instances where sales were made a slight reduction from the nominal quotations had to be submitted to. The transactions were :—Blackburn, 111; Eastern Counties, 101 ; Great Western, 51 ; Lancashire and Yorkshire, 85k, 851, 851, 857„ 851, 851 ; London and North Western, 861, 862-, 861 ; ditto one-eighth shares, 1 15-16 d ; Manchester, Sheffield and Lincoln, 331 7 Midland, 931; South Eastern, 181, 18 5-16, 181, 18 5-16; Dutch Rhenish, 7 d; Grand Trunk of Canada seven per cent., 1872, 61; Only two transactions were reported after official hours, and comprised—Lancashire and Yorkshires at 851, and London and North-Western quarters at 1-31, 32 d. The final closing quotations were : AIL 1. Uc lluLy atialt nu tloa:pit, LUC question, or money was to be abstained from being entered upon at all, or he would have gone more fully into the matter when speaking a few moments ago. Mr. Dover had talked about a million and a half of money, but, he asked., what was to be done with it. Had Mr. Dover studied the plan on the table ? He had not done so, or he' would not have made this statement. 'ln the north end of the town, improvements were being made by Lord Derby, which were included in the plan before them, and they had reason to believe that a great many of the improvements marked by the red lines, would not cost them a penny piece. 20. in the pound would provide a sinking fund, which, in 30 years, would amount to £30,000, a 14-1 rate would produce £15,000, and at present they were paying 2d. in the pound for watering the streets. It was known that Mr. Dover had scarcely the organ of hope in his head, but the organ of despair was'very largely developed. He did hope that the council and the public would not anticipate what the improvement committee would do. The object of the meeting was to elicit from every member their opinion, and he hoped the work would not be done by piece-meal. Three councils since there was an application made that certain improvements should be carried out in Wakefield lane, Everton. One hundred pounds was sanctioned by the council to be expended in that improvement; that improve ment had not been carried out. He took the trouble to inform himself with reference to the proposed improvement, and he saw that that was the moment to make such an improVement. Land was to be bought at lOs a yard, and one man was giving up front land at that price, which it had cost himself. He asked the chairman of the finance committee if the money he was asking would be sufficient, and he said £lOO would do it. It had come to his know ledge only the day before yesterday that it had not been completed, and huge buildings were now being erected on the ground, and would the Blackburn, 11i, 11 ; Chester and Birkenhead, 60, 61; Caledonian, ! 731, 74 ; Eastern Counties, 10Z, 101 ; East Lancashire, 83, 85 ; Great North ern, 94, 96 ; Ditto A., 79, 81 ; Great Western ' 501, 51 ; L ancas hi re an d Y orkshire Stock, 851., 857, ; London a n d N or th-W estern Stock, 86.4, 86:4; Dtto one-eighth shares, 1 15-16, 14 d ; Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincoln, 331, 331; Midland Stock, 93, 931 ; North British, 51, 511 ; North Staffordshire, 4Z-, 4 d; North Eastern, --Berwick, 831-, 841 ; York and North Midland, 671, 68 ; Leeds Capital Stock, 42, 43; South Eastern and Dover, 18 5-16, 18 ; Dutch Rhenish, 7, 6-,2, d; Great Western of Canada, 13!, 13; ; Do. New Shares. d ; Great Luxemb- 4 prevent possibility of carrying out the improvement at such a trifling cost. He thought the committee should not have allowed the time to pass by in silence for a small paltry sum of £5O, which was all that was required, in addition to the £lOO, for such an improvement. This might be taken as an illustra tion of what delay might cause. He did pray, therefore, that Mr. Dover would be good enough to keep his doubts and his fears to himself, and not come there having the mul tiplication table without understanding su bt rac ti on . - IVlr..Earle was not at all surprised at the remarks of Mr. Dover. If Mr. Dover were induced to approve of a bou levards 'at all, his views would probably only extend to a boulevard about the width of School-lane. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) Mr Dover had said that the first thing to be considered was the cost. Now there was another thing to be considered frequently before the cost, and that Was the necessity. (Hear, hear.) If they delayed doing what was absolutely necessary to be done, they would have a great deal more to pay for it in the end. He regretted extremely that Mr. Stewart was not present upon that occasion. Per- Juig, g, 5; Grand Trunk of Canada, 7 71 ; Lombardo-Venetian, 21, d; Do. New Shares, 3, 21 d. The Liverpool May Wool sales commence to morrow (the 12th). The total quantity to be offered is 21,500 bales, of which the following are the particulars : At 4 o'clock. E.lndia May 12.1 T. &H. Littledale & C 0.1200( Sundries. 450IChili,Russian, Egyp- At 2 o'clock. John.L Bowes & Brother 1000 May 13. At 4 o'clock. W. Greame and Co. Malcolm Greame May 14. Hughes and Ronald .• • May 10. T..& H. Littledale &Co Malcolm Greame .tiara, 800 English Skin&Fleece 200 Ditto. May 17.1 W. Greame and Co I 7001 Unwashed Oporto, fjinla,EgYpt. ( Perkins and Robinson ( Washed Oporto, B. 1050 Ayres, Peruvian, Turkey, &c. haps he had taken alarm at the extent of the improvements which were suggested. (Laughter.) He hoped he had not taken to his bed. 3rowne,& E. Buckley not Unwashed Chili, Oporto, &c. 40 Turkey. Maw 191 Diowne, Hunter, & Co. 11800 Mr. Tobin : I do not think that, in the absence of Mr. Stewart, any views ought to be put into his mouth. Ido not think it is right either to anticipate what his opinions may be, or to presume as to the cause of his, no doubt, unavoidable absence. (Hear, hear.) May 20. T. &H..Littledale & May 201 Hughes and Ronald .... 700 Chili, Russian, 1500 Oporto, B. Ayres, Odessa Seoteh,&e. The London Wool Sales continued to-day, Messrs. Balme have sold about an average quantity. Good and fine samples were in somewhat improved request, at full quotations, but inferior kinds went at fully the decline already noticed. Mr. Alderman J. H. Turner : He is engaged in hearing appeals. Mr. Earle had no doubt whatever, that Mr. Stew art's absence was unavoidable, arid - only regretted that he was not present that day. (Hear, hear.) He had no doubt whatever, in seriousness, that Mr. Stewart would lend a willing ear to the consideration of these improvements, and he hoped - that the proposals might secure his approval, as his position with regard to Lord Sefton, and his great influence with Lord Derby, added to hiS own personal talents and influence, would render his co operation of the utmost value. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Dover said the gentlemen who recently spoke either misunderstood or affected to misunderstand him. He bad not protested against the plans. All he asked was. for caution and delay. He asked that the council might not be put .to too great expense, and that delay might be allowed in order to enable the public out of (hors to understand the subject, and to have an opportunity of judging for themselves whether any of the great schemes proposed could be carried out. Mr. Bennett said, if there were any gentlemen in Liver pool who ought to be in favour of town improvements it was the chairmen of the health committee. (Hear, hear.) The vast sanitary improvement which would be gained by carrying wide and open streets through now - densely crowded portions of the town would be immense. (Hear, hear.) Another thing which the chairman of the health committee would like to see, would be a penny rate producing, not merely as now £6,500, but double that amount—Xl3,ooo.- (Hear, hear.) If the proposed expenditure of one and a-half millions were carried out, he had no - hesitation in saying, that a penny rate would yield nearly. 7Z-. 'l;',., double the amount it did at present, for they would have The Traffic Returns made up to-day for the London splendid property erected upon sites at present yielding and North Western Railway shows the receipts to almost nothing. (Hear, hear.) He was almostas sanguine have been 66,5251., being an inc re a se o f 3,0231 . as Mr. Gardner, in believing that it would be pecu- Lancashire and Yorkshire, 24,021 ; increase, 56/. ; niarily the policy of, the council to carry out Manchester and Sheffield, 10 738/. ' • increase, 1,088. the proposal. He believed th e y wou ld b e ra i s i ng ' up an amount of property so grea t, th a t, i ns t ea d o f h av i ng The Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada higher rates, they would have lower rates, because the return for the week ending 16th April, and corre amount raised by certain rates would b e near l y d ou bl e sponding, week, 1858, s h ows th e rece i pts to have what it was at present. (Hear, hear.) One and a half been 9,6501 Os 6d, against 10,1411 14s 51d last year ; millions had been already spent by the health committee showing a decrease of 4911 13s 111. under ground in sewering during the last few years, and We have another arrival to-day at this port from nearly the same amount above ground, making three millions Australia. The Morning Star has arrived, with in all. Now, if the enormous improvements shown upon 32,732/. in gold from Melbou rne . H er d a t es h ave the present plans were undertaken, h e h a d no h es it a ti on been anticipated by the Great Britain. in benefit in g the to w g that for would one and ten-fo a half mthat illion which the result in • The quarterly sal es o f I n di go commence d- yester d a y tn be ld had been produced by the expenditure of the su ms h e h a d afternoon, and the quantity to b e o ff ere d f or pu bli c mentioned. Mr. Dover was wrong in hi s figures—j ust ' competition (tinounts to about 11,664 chests. Th e wrong in his deductions, and very short sighted in his g e nera l expectat i on that, ow i ng to the unfavourable policy. (Rear, hear.) state of foreig n p o liti ca l a ff a i rs , pr i ces would show a . Mr. Sheil said, it was right that the public should not be downward tendency, has been fully realised. A large led astray upon the figures. He begged leave t o t e ll them,, quantity h as b een w i t hd rawn, an d the few lots sold as a matter of fact, - obtained from his experience in the went at a reduction of 6d to is per lb., according to health committee, what a penny in the po un d wou ld p ro d uce qua li ty, compared with the rates current at thelast upon the borough and the out-townships. It would 1 sales. During the progress of the sale 2,526 chests I were withdrawn, and 434 sold, chiefly Kiiipalis and just produce £5,720. That was what it produced under the sanitary act, and .he supposed it Madras qualities, could not be made to produce much more under A special meeting of the Geelong and Melbourne any other act. He thought the public ought to be Railway Compa n y was h e ld to -d ay, at w hi c h M r. based upon th e estimate, l a id bef ore th em . Th ey h a d h a d very cauti ous , an d th e ' counc il a l so , -in coming to a conclusion Potter presid e d, an d state d t h at they were called strong inst ances t o s h ow h ow d e l us i ve suc h i ns t ances were. together t o cons id er the terms of purchase made by He was a member of the first committee for the erection the government of Victoria, for taking over to them of St. G eorge ' s H a ll , an d t h e or i g i na l est i mate se l ves t h e Geelong and Melbourne Railway. The laid before them was . £85,000. The building had cost conditions were read, and were to the effect that the £320,000, and it was not yet completed. He did not mean government be authorised to offer in exchange for the to say thatthecstimatesnow beforetbem were equallyfallaeious entire property of the company, Railway Debentures forming part of the sum of £8,000,000, already railways. authorised by Parliament, for the construction Of but he contended that that fact showed the necessity for prudence and caution. He complained that great incon venience arose to the health committee from the empl?yment unanimously, • There was some discussion as to the neglect of the government in not paying the arrears of the corporat , 3officials in occupations not trictly their own h , of interest, but the terms of sale were agreed to and he expressel a doubt whether the recent discoveries which had been made of improprieties going on in corporate departments c - .uld have had any cause officials had been strictlyadllutitehse. In the Disco - ant Market the feeling of vague alarm as it 1 is subsiding, and the leading establishments are (Hear, hear.) With regard to the to oul t e h v e a i r r d oi i f t w se n lf, was somewhat inappropiately celled, for they all knew i encouraged by the enormous amount of dep :sit 3 In the absence of any exciting news from the Continent, the London Stock Market has been steady but quiet, and the variations in the prices of Securities have been quite unimportant. The final closing prices were :—Consols for Money, 913, 91a • AccoUnt, 911 ; Three per Cents, 90a, 90 7 7 , ; Bank Stock, 216; 220 ; Exchequer Bills, Large and Small, 20, 26 pm. The London Share Market has shown no feature of importance. At the opening prices were steady, and so continued all the morning ; but towards the close there was rather more heaviness,, and closed weak at the following prices :—Ambergate, 51, 5 y ; Caledo nian; 73, 74 ; Preference, 98, 100 ; Eastern Counties, 521, 531 ; East Lancashire, 84, 85 ; Edinburgh and Glasgow, 68, 70 ; Great Northern, 94, 95 ; ditt o A, 75, 80 ; ditto B, 124, 128 ; Great Western, 501, 511 ; Lancashire and Yorkshire, 841, 851 ; Brighton, 105, 107 ; North-Western, 851, 861 ; South-Western, • 85, 86 ; Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincoln, 33, 34 ; Midland, 921, 931 ; North British, 50, 52 ; ditto Preference, 103, 106 ; North-Eastern—Berwick, 834, 843 ; ditto Leeds, 42, 43 ; ditto York, 681, 691 ; North Stafford, 54, 51 ; ; South Eastern, 61, 611 ; Great Western of Canada, 131, 13a ; new, 71, 7 dis. ; Grand Trunk of Canada, poured in upon them to take at the Bank minimum bills having so long :B;=3 two months to run. The .demand at the Bank was good, but not urgent. The supply cif Gal by the Mermaid, as well as the £128,000 by the Great Britain, reached London yesterday, and•about two-thirds were taken for the Continent The £106,400 by the Europa, from New York, also came to hand, and a portion was purchased for exportation. The foreign buyers were not quite so eager as of late. The Ellen Stuart sailed from Melbourne for Liverpool on the 28th Feb., with £28,400 in gold. Upwards of £400,000 in Australian gold is now known to be at sea, of which fully one-half is due. The steamer Ceylon will take to-morrow 197,350/. in Silver for Bombay, besides 50,0001. in Gold for Malta. The whole of the Gold and 150,0001. of the Silver is transmitted by government. ai Increased buoyancy prevailed in the Stock Exchange this morning in consequence of the continued and remarkable absorbtion of stock by the public. Consols at one period were quoted at a fresh advance of fully 4 per cent., making a total recovery of about 34 per cent. from the lowest point of the late depression. The important advance has induced a number of realisations, and the closing quotations were only 4- to I per cent. above those of yesterday. The other markets are daily assuming a more satisfactory position. In the Discount Market, the feeling of vague alarm is subsiding, and the leading establishments are encouraged by the enormous deposits poured in upon them, to, take, at the Bank minimum, bills having so long as two months to run. The demand at the Bank was good, but not urgent. There were no bullion operations at. the Bank to-day. On 'Change, .this afternoon, bills on Ham burgh and Frankfort were more inquired for, and the rates were a trifle less . favourable. The St. Petersburgh and Naples Exchanges, on the other hand, were quoted rather better for this country ; at St. Petersburg the Exchange on London is quoted 33d.—Dally News City Article, Tuesday The letters from Germany to-day mention a rumour of mercantile failures in Vienna, Frankfort, Leipsic, Munich, &c. The expectations of a further movement of the Bank of England to 5 per cent., seems for the momen t t o h ave subsided. There is still a good demand for discount at the Bank - and although the other bank s an d di scoun t h ouses have larger balances than they can employ, it is only in the instance of bills having not more than about twenty days to run that the terms in • the open market are below 41 per cent. No gold was taken from the Bank to day, the continental demand being supplied for the present from the recent American and Australian arrivals. The English Funds opened this morning at a further improve ment of 4- 1 -, and subsequently experienced a more considerable advance, which, however, was not maintained. The fact of the gold arrivals yesterday and to-day from Australia and New York having amounted to nearly £400,000, tended to strengthen the market. Times City Article Tuesday Evening. --__._",•,__- LIVERPOOL PRODUCE MARKET, -MAY 11 Colonial, &c. : The holders of Sugar having shown more disposition to realise, rather more business has taken place, the sales comprising 200 hhds. Trinidad at 37s from the quay, 1,000 bags good yellow Date at 425, 800 bags Benares at 42s 6d, 7,200 nrits old unclaved Manilla at 325, and 4,000 bags Brazil, in bond, including old Paraiba, at 22s per cwt., being rather easier rates. There are no further transactions to notice in Molasses or Rum. The Rice market remains steady ; 2,750 bags Bengal have changed hands at 12s 3d to 12s 6d, 5,400 bags Necransie (price not reported), and 4,700 bags Moulmein at 9s per cwt. .In Dyewoods the business is limited to 4 tons Manilla Sapan wood, all faults, at £7; 5 tons Limawood, at £l4, and 15 tons Africa Black Ebony, at £ll per ton. Of Ashes, 80 barrels pots, at 31s 6d for old. 20 tons Nitrate of Soda sold at 15s 6d to 16s 6d ; and 1,000 bags Saltpetre, at 45s 6d per cwt. for 5 per cent. Nothing has transpired in Brimstone ; 150 bags White Perugia Argols, reported at 92s 6d ; 4 casks Cream of Tartar, at 128 s, and 7 casks Pinky Brown do., at 105 s ; 450 bags Sumac, at 9s 6d to 13s ; 750 bales Gambier, slightly heated, at 17s to 17s 6d, but chiefly at 17s 3d,. (500 bales to arrive on private terms, with 1,400 bales at 17s, all sound) ; 51 chests Native Orange Shell Lac at 90s, including some of fine quality at 100 s ; half a ton of Mogadore Bees' Wax, at £8 15s per cwt. Oils, &c.: Palm at £45 10s to £46 per tun ; nothing to report in Olive ; 1 ton Cod Liver sold at 6s 9d per gal. ; Linseed quiet, at 30s to 30s 6d per cwt. Tallow : P.Y.C., at 58s. Retail sales of Lard, at 61s for American. Of Rosin, 4,600 barrels common have been taken at 4s to 4s 3d. Spirits of Turpentine : 200 brls., at 43s 6d per cwt. LIVERPOOL COTTON MARKET.---MAY 11 We have to report a quieter market for cotton to-day, without change in prices. The sales—including 150 Per nambuco, 74d to 81d ; 60 Maranham, 7id ,to 9id ; 170 Bahia, 7id to 74d; 500 Egyptian, 72d to 9d ; and 300 Surat, 44d to Sad--are reported 7,000 bales to the trade. • SALFORD CATTLE MARKET, -MAY 11 Beasts, 1,313; sheep, 6,651; calves, 432. Best beef, 61d to 7id ; middling, 51c1 to 61d ; cows, 4d to 511 Best wedders ip wool, 8d to 9d; ditto clipped, 61d to 71d; ewes, 5d to 6d; calves, 5d to 6 1 d. 4 LONDON PRODUCE MARKET—M.4Y 11. Sugar flat, and grainy Bengal nearly 6d cheaper. Coffee : Market flat. Tea quiet. Common congou 14d nominal. Rice : Market dull. " Indigo : Sales have gone flatly again, at about yester day's currency. Saltpetre : Market flat. Jute : 10,000 bales now selling, so far, they have gone steadily. LONDON TALLOW MARKET.-MAY 11 Market steady, but without activity. Spot, 56s ; June alone, 55s 9d ; July to September, 56s 6d ; October and December, 56s 6d buyers. LONDON' CORN MARKET, -MAY 11 Weather cloudy and chilly; wind, N.E. The foreign supplies of wheat were liberal ; small of barley, oats, and flour. We have scarcely any tenders of wheat-buyers to-day, and prices must be reckoned nominally as on Monday. Oats fair sale, at Monday's rates. Nothing doing in barley, and high prices asked. Norfolk flour has a slow sale. BOROUGH HOP MARKET, MAY 11 We have no change to notice in the value of any kind of hops. Good samples in fair request, but other qualities LONDON MINING MARKET.---MAY 11 Only a moderate business has been done this morning in British mining stocks, and prices in some instances are rather lower. East Wheal Russell shares are quoted 101 to 11, and are officially marked in the Stock Exchange 11. East Basset have been dealt in at 210, and Wheal Mary Ann at 46. There have also been transactions in shares in Wheal Margaret, Wheal Trelawney, West Caradon, and Vale of Towey mines. Cobre Copper Mining shares are rather more offered, and are marked 381. Port Philip have been dealt in at 10s. A reduction of id per lb took place yesterday in the price of manufactured copper. Present quotations are reported as follows : Manufactured, 12d per lb ; tough cake and tile, £lO7 lOs per ton ; yellow metal sheathing and bolts, 10d per lb. LONDON MONEY MARKET, MAY 11 Consols quiet and steady at the closing prices of yester day-911 to 911- for June account, and 911 to 911 for money. Nothing doing, except for money. Shares dull and inactive, and prices in some instances declined a little, but no material change. Canadian steady ; French unchanged ; Lombards, 51. CORK CORN MARKET White wheat, 27s ; red, 24s to 25s )ats, 14s 3d to 15s 6d. —May 11; ; barley, 14s to 15s GLASGOW CORN MARKET. —MAY 11. Market firmer for wheat, and a faire business done at a decline of 4s per quarter on wheat, is to 2s on barley, and Is on all other grain. Flour 2s to 3s per sack lower. GLASGOW IRON MARKET.-MAY 11 Market drooping. No. 1,48 s 495 to 4bs 3d; makers' iron, 48s 61 to 495; No. 3,48 s 6d to 495, TUES DAY'S GAZETTE PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED, George Haworth and Joshua Hoyle, Newchurch, Lanca shire, cotton spinners. William Gilyard, Thomas Wood, and Thomas Clarkson, Bowling, Yorkshire, top makers, so far as regards Thomas Wood. Peter Tood, William Todd, and George Ashworth, Wheelton, Lancashire, cotton manufacturers. John Robertson and David Robertson, Huddersfield, Yorkshire, drapers. John Henry Atherton and Thomas Hatchett Ism, Nottingham, drapers. John' Webster and Robert Suddards, Bradford, Yorkshire, wool staplers. Edward Mason, Richard Stuttard, and Samuel Hill, Heywood, Lancashire, fustian manufacturers. John Pickard and Thomas Whitham, Bradford Yorkshire, extractors. Joseph Burges s an d Ch arles Booth', Manchester,' commission agents. SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. HIGH WATER. Even. Height 8 11 .... 13 6 THIS DAY WIND At LrVERPOOL,—S.E.—Fresh breeze " HOLYHEAD,—E.S.E.—Fresh breeze A It R I V ED, War Cloud Calcutta I Zephyr . Black Swan ....Maranham Mail .... Nantes Nantes. Colonist Savannah Northampton.. New Orleans Wm Patten Savannah Morning Star ...Melbourne Agnes Savannah Queen ... ..... . ... Mobile . Turia (ss) Valentia Utopia . ..... ~....Mogadore Queen of the Chase ..Nantes SAILED North American (ss)Montreal Emma Bordeaux City of Baltimore (ss) Wm Penn Cronstadt New York Salve St Jago de Cuba Catherine Anne ....Odessa Cossack Stettin De Maas Dantzic Thornhill Africa- Jose Maria Matanzas Atlantic ...........Boston Veloz Adventure Bonny Rosalie Ostend MARITIME EXTRACTS LIVERPOOL, May 11 A British brigantine, name unknown, from Sierra Leone to Liverpool, was spoken on the 22nd April, in lat 46 N, lon 21 W, with loss of maintopmast and mainmast head sprung. The Echo, from Calcutta to London, was spoken on the• sth March, in lat 35 S, lon 26 E, with loss of foremast, and was supplied with a spar to rig a jury one, by the War Cloud, arrived here. NEW YORK. April 27.---The Jura, at Boston, on the 15th instant, lat. 47.44, lon. 34, boarded the barque Alida, of St. John (N. 8.), Amos D. Healey, 21 days from Glasgow for Boston. She reported that, on the 7th April, had a terrific gale, and shipped a heavy sea, which broke stanchions, rails, and bulwarks, and stove the after house, taking over board the chronometer, nautical instruments,, and charts, with provisions, cabin furniture, and clothing ; also, split the covering board, causing the ship to make much water, lost small boat, &c, The Jura supplied her with the neces sary provisions. The Polynesia ship, of and from Boston, at San Francisco, March 25, encountered a terrible hurricane in the North Atlantic Ocean, when a few days out, and lost an entire suit of sails from the yards, a part of her spars, and had her mainmast badly injured. The IL D. Brook man barque, from Mobile for Cronstadt, remained on shore in Mobile Bay p.m. of the 15th instant. The biig Enter prise, of Windsor (N.S.), from Parsboro (N.S.) for New York, went on shore at Bridghampton Beach, April 24, has bilged, is full of water, but is near the shore, and will probably be saved with her cargo ; crew landed. The Corra Linn (barque), from Boston for St. John (N. 8.), dragged on shore on Eastern Point (Gloucester ) , during a gale April 23, and remains. A steamer f rom Boston has proceeded to her assistance. A large quantity of cotton was seen floating in the gulf, and 12 bales (a portion of which was partially burnt) were picked up near the Tortugas, by the schooner D Goodwin, arrived at New Orleans from Charleston The above are supposed to be part of the cargo"' of the ship Monticello, Maine, from New Orleans for Liver pool, abandoned off the bar of New Orleans March 27, 011 fire. The Diamond (s), arrived at Baltimore, reports that upwards of fourteen vessels are on shore along the Bay and Potomac rivers. They went on shore during a very high tide, and it is expected that considerable difficulty will be experienced in getting them off. NARVA, May 3.—The river and the bay are now quite free of ice, and yesterday the first vessel arrived at this port LISBON, May s.—The Dutch ship Wilhelmina, Koster, from Rotterdam, has arrived here with mast broken. HAVANA, April 15. The wreck of the Harriet Ann, from Navy Bay for Baltimore, has been sold for $250 ; and the hull and cargo of the Chilian ship Ramon Rojas, Uriarte from Marseilles, on shore on the Friar's Reef, for $357. OUTPOSTS GRAVESPID, May 11.—Arrived : The Amelia, from Berbice ; Crystal Palace, New York ; Crocodile, .St. Vin cent; Eliza, Gothenborg ; Hanover, Calcutta; Arabia, Colombo.; Wyvern, Lisbon ; John Temperley, Bombay ; Frolic, Valencia ; Roman Emperor, Trinidad; York Town, New York ; Trevener, Aarhaus ; Minden, Mauritius ; Jessica, Bombay ; Armada, Stockholm ; Bellweather, Guernsey ; Admiral Kanairs (s), Odessa ; Helena, Horsens; Benares, St. John, N.B. ; Electra, Grenada ; Thor, Christiana ; Wilhelmina Georgiana Gothenberg ; Bard of Avon, Calcutta ; Charlotte, Gothenberg ; Lady Agnes Duff, Manilla ; Quarry, Manmalms ; Unity, Helangdorf ; Agnia i St. Übes ; Persigni, Matanzas ; Caroni, Trinidad. Sailed : The Oscar (ss), for Gibraltar; Leicester, Bermuda , Stanislaw, Antwerp; Valisneria, Canterbury; Eclipse, Port Phillip ; Minna, Cronstadt ; Sea Paik, Madras. - DEAL, May 11.—Arrived and Passed: H.M.S. Hero, from Sheerness to Portsmouth ; Bard of Avon, Calcutta to London ; Prince Albert, Jamaica to London ; Admiral Kanaris, south south-west to London • Caroni, Tinidad to London ; Empress Eugenie, south south-west 7 to London ' ; Celestial, London to Bermuda • Oscar (ss), London t o Gibraltar; Truro, Bombay for orders; Indifferente, Shields to Naples • H.M.S. Avon, Shields to west ; Roman Emperor, Trinidad to London ; Albert, St. Croix to Copen hagen; Frederick Gustav, Brest to London ; Jamaica to London; Alhambra, St. John's to London; Persagno, Matanzas to London, in tow ; Pennsylvania , Philadelphia to London ; Chatham, Kurrachee to London ; Dauntless (brig), of Colchester, west to north ; Seostres, London to Quebec ; Caravan, north to New York ; Marco Bozaris, London to Syra ; Valesneria, London to Canter bury ; Unanimity, London to Cardiff; William Coley- London to Bombay ; Agnes, Jamaica to London ' • Peninsu lar, Cadiz to London; H.M.S. Bee, W oo l w i c h to west ; Capernicus, Batavia to Rotterdam; Amphitrite, Belboa to Shields ; Marithon, Shields to Bombay , Anna, Ne w Orleans to Bremen ; Adelina, Gallipoli to Cronstadt ; Harburg, Hondululu to Bremen; Helen R. Cooper, Se w York to London. FALMOUTH, May 11.—Arrived : Genoa, from Liverpool- GREENOCK, May 11.—Arrived : Silicia, from New York; Gratitude, Trinidad ; Maces, Mauritius ; Nantes Eugenie, Nantes ; Braham Castle, Nantes VESSEL'S REPORTS Report by the China, Main, from New Orleans at Liver pool; spoke May 3. —ln lat 49.10 N, lon 12.51 W, the Harmony, c " and from Jersey for Newfoundland. Report by the Mazeppa, Boyd, from Savannah at Liver pool ; spoke May B.—Tuskar bearing NNW ; Yorkshire, from Liver pool for New York. Report by the Malakoff, Hattrick, from Savannah at Liverpool; spoke April 26. Traro, from Bombay for London, in lat 49.54 IV , lon 12.41 N A .pril I.—Traveller (of Liverpool), from New Orleans t 0 Pernambuco, in lat 31.57 N, 72.20 ; wished to be reported. April 29.—1 n lat 50.03 N, ion 12.03 W, passed an d touched a small vessel of about 120 tons, bottom JP' it beinc , dark at the time could make nothing of it. Report 13 - y- the Colonist, Graham, from S'avannah, a' Liverpool ; spoke April 24. - Queen, from Dublin to Miramachi, in I s t 45.30 N, lon 44.40 W ; all well April 26 —Olive Branch, from Liverpool to Quebec, ill lat 46.29 N, lon 43.09 W ; all well. April 23.—Passed two large icebergs, in lat 45.36 lon 40 W. FOREIGN PORTS Princess Royal, Mellor, hence at Trieste. Bon Pasteur, and Rosina, Allair, hence at Marseilles: Muer (ss), M'Neil, hence at Bordeaux. Sylph, Evans, hence at St. Nazaire. Genet (es), Bond, hence at Dunkirk. Pelican (ss), hence at Helvoet. Zwaan, hence at Flushen for Middleburg. Beaver (ss), hence at Bordeaux, May 7 Nemesis (ss) sail e , from Bordeaux for Liverpool, May 7 Matbilde, hence at NitCeseilles May 5 Gratitude, hence at Helvolq, May 7 liambitrg for ciudad 13°- Emma Arvigne, sailed f rom _ livar via Liverpool, May 4 Tilo, hence at Gibraltar, April 22 Triumphant, hence at Gibraltar, April 30 Friehandel, hence at Harburg May 7 Odin (ss), hence at Swinemunde May 5 Legge, hence at Copenhagen May 6 Leo Sinnige, hence at Copenh agen M a y 5, f o r St peters' burgh • gierendorff Wardow, sailed from Warnemunde for Liver pool May 2 LEWIS AND COMPANY'S NEW ESTABLISHMENT VI BOYS' CLOTHING.—Number of boys clothed .for the Reek ending Saturday, May 7th, 865: corresponding week last year, 823.—Increas?„ 42 boys.