Northern Times. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-04-13 00:00:00

THE LATEST TELEGRAMS. certainly will not if they should decline to do so. " Within eighty and forty hours," said an extremely well-informed person to me yesterday evening, " Austria will see her way clearly, and you ' may expect soon to hear that some decisive step has been taken." It is probable that an ultimatum will be sent by this Government to Sardinia. Should such a document be forwarded to Turin, it will doubtless be a summons to Sardinia to disarm, accompanied by the remark that if she should refuse to do so Austria will declare war against her. People here are perfectly well aware of the extreme importance of such a step, but still they hope it will soon be taken, as they know that the outlay for the army amounts to more than half a million of florins a day. The corps d'armee which the Emperor reviewed yester day was composed of two battalions of chasseurs, six regiments of the line, two cavalry regiments, and the • usual allowance of artillery. The corps, which had its baggage and pontoon-trains on the field, consist of 50,000 mon, some of whom are already on their way to Italy. The arrangements made for the transport of the troops, horses, artil lery, &c., are so very judicious, that the whole corps will have reached its destination by the 14th inst. Another corps d'armee—the 9th---is already assem bling here, and it is understood that it is to consist of 60,000 men of all arms. A corps of 70,000 men, which is to be placed in Bohemia, Silesia, and Moravia, will serve as a second reserve to the Italian army, the above-mentioned 9th corps d'armee being the first. The reserves of the army in Italy and of the corps which is now leaving this city have been called in. A person, who yester day came from Linz to this city by rail, states, that the whole line was crowded with furlough men and recruits. No border troops have been quartered in this city since the year 1851, but four battalions from the Warasdin district are now on their way here. In my letter of yesterday, I stated that a corps of observation was to be placed in the Servian Voivodina. ; the concentration of the troops has already begun. The political ferment in Moldavia, Wallachia, Bulgaria, Servia, and Monte negro is increasing, and it cannot well be doubted that the inhabitants of Albania, Epirus, Thessaly, and Macedonia will take advantage of the first favourable opportunity that may present itself for getting rid of the Turkish - yoke. It is related that Klapka, the Hungarian refugee, is now at Belgrade, and it is by no means improbable that the report is correct. There are still persons in Hungary who profess to feel both sympathy and respect for Klapka, but no one has a good word for Kossuth. When at Bucharest Col. Couza tried to obtain money from the Divan, in order that he might be able to place the Wallachian army on a more respectable footing, but he did not succeed, and his failure is generally at tributed to the machinations of Messrs. Golesco and Bratiano, who are the leaders of the so-called National Party. Persons of my acquaintance, who know the peculiarities of the Wallachians and Moldavians, predict that if the two Principali ties are now united, the Powers will at no distant period be requested to undo the work of their own hands. The banking house of Christu, in Bucha rest, is unable to resume its payments, it • being absolutely impossible to raise money under present circumstances. The liabilities of the firm are 6,000,000 piastres, and its capital 15,000,000, but it failed because it was unable to pay 10,000 piastres. The Wallachian Divan has resolved on establishing a kind of discount bank, with a capital of 200,000 ducats, for the convenience of the commercial public, but it is to be foreseen that the thing will not answer. Such an establishment, if it is to be of real use, must be well conducted; but order and impartiality are almost unknown in Wallachia. AMERICA. SOUTHAMPTON, Tuesday Evening----The steamer ° ., r ussia has j us t arr i ve d h ere from New Y or k, 'hence she sailed on the Ist inst. FRANCE. TRIPATE, April 12.—The transactions on the southern Railway between this town and Vienna is to be discontinued from to-morrow, the 13th, until the 28th instant 1 , THE FRENCH FUNDS. ' °ls, Tuesday, April 11.-12.12: Rentes corn- Mence d 67 .35, and are now rather firm at 67.45. 1 2 - P.m.—Rentes opened at 67.65, being a rise of /acre than 1 since yesterday's closing, but fell imme diately to 67.45. 2 ' 38 P.m.—The Bo u rse closes firmer. Rentes are 6 for money, and 67.85 for account, being a rise of amor e tha n per cent. since yesterday. R a il way shares from 2 to 10 francs higher KING .OF NAPLES. 'LIRsEILLEs, April 12.—Advices have been received f 1 1 ;. ° . 111 Naples t o th e 9th i ns tant. The malady of the a j u lg is be com i ng more aggrava t e d. It i s believed t h a t he will not survive the present week. The disease has attacked the chest, accompanied by increasing. ni ` , ti,n g and stupor. The agitation of parties is The Queen is anxious to associate her ! 3°n with the future king as council, but her success ] duke under takino• is not probable. The Grand co u ce taking strongly supports reforms in the f nstitution. The hereditary prince and the royal roily g° to C aser t o d a ily. Advices have also n received from Rome to the 9th sis• instant. The P o p e will address the con tn.:l7 On Friday next. He will describe the Pnt situation of diplomatic affairs. It is asserted at he will reject the proposal of a Congress. vo a i s P°rts ar e given by the Roman authorities to th e l Teers for Piedmontese service from the state of b e , culir eh, but with the intimation that they will -e ' 9 " a rded as exiles REIGN IN'IELLIGETCE. FRANCE te p,s ~ FRANCE. a rr i l , i , Monday.—People who are apprehensive of ineid e 'e calamity, seize eagerly on the slightest m en nt that gives a chance of safety, and drowning Ar . Tcatch at a straw. At his reception last night, den t Pleng, who holds the twofold office of Presi .se,,_?f the Court of Cassation and President of the sav ",a,te, stated to several persons that he was glad to 4 jhat there was good news from Vienna. So strong a r e IT opposition to war, and so utterly unpopular s o r , llose beco me w ho advise, or even approve of it— ell earful of the consequences are the people of every 88 —that when the word " good news" is uttered t il a ° ,, l ether meaning is, or they think ought to be, at -ote 7ed to it but " peace.' M. Troplong, who is 11 11 , 1 as hostile to war—for more he could not well (, --- as the C a binet Ministers themselves, announced. R.,, ) th e story eoes) that it was in fact a pacific de- C e ll from Vienna he alluded to ; Vienna proposed di n ,' not one Power alone, but three, Austria, Sar- Th - ,: a ' and France, should disarm simultaneously. - ?'ejection of this proposition did not seem to be alitici y r , Pate& Some one asked what would the th4, l Government say to this ? The answer was arp ad r ,ance could not disarm, because she had never O f th I cannot say what opinion you will form t rian g nae i n irnpo tates yesterday's Moniteur about the Ger i but here no one attaches the slightest 1 ,9 44 11 .„ 4 , 1 ce, nor, I regret to say, the slightest credit, Its a ;l s '" 1 -ng of the kind that appears in the Moniteur. ai well ances are received by the universal public, 81114 as by the Ministers themselves, with a by su at the supposition that they can be deceived wri t " e u things. The article is admitted to be well to 4ett e i n enough ; sentences neat and artificially put M lCa A e r , meaning absolutely nothing ; but where a I) ete r ' O ne is asumed we lose patience, and , like Sir Joseph e q azie, driven to rage by his smooth friend i) I s o i T ° ll rface, are tempted to cry out, " Oh, d— setiments ! " It is recorded that the Emperor `Poleo r only „ 4 . 4 1 . had a similar article in the Moniteur P r us j fe w days before he declared war against tl Be n i - and, to give piquancy to his duplicity, sent' k rio for a bust of the Great Frederick. Is Arosul going to be taken in again by the creamy e of the Moniteur ? bier A Jerson_ who has recently arrived from Algiers Din l 9 ll s, that since the departure of the Renauld fro m sl ?n the arm of Africa has been reinforced by "iv a , - ; 16 ,000 to 18,000 men. General MacMahon tam Co nsulted as to what force was required to main ilien.trou quillitv in the country : he thought 30,000 Would suffice. We may presume , then , that 30,000 ser` ,e • would be at the disposal of the government for pi et l ?e els ew h ere . T wo n ew divisions were corn ord e 'Y formed, and prepared to leave whene ver Pi r e t re d• At Algiers it was said they would fo rm 12, 0 , e f the army of Italy, Of these two divisions of Nicu° men ea c h, one was called the active, and the er Consisted of two flying brigades (Brigades (ro ot lies ) , composed of Zouaves, Chasseurs d'Afrique N s and mounted), and the first foreign legion tfd; l ‘ , 4ll Y" stationed at Constantine) of four bat -2,l'6'A", each of 1,000 men ; in all about 1-1, 1 " 0 . The foreign legion is made up of Italians, k ri . i n : 4 ,_arians, and Spaniards chiefly. All these are co r ls ii, ed with all material and equipments for war, v er e r tsing ambulances. For some weeks past there A l P four or five officers of the Sardinian army at s u rrst said to be there for instruction, but pre oi_ ed to witness the embarkation, when the order ip ull id arrive, in French and Sardinian transports. G eneral br ea k s out, i t was th oug ht a t Algiers that to 4er al MacMahon would probably be appointed th e the command of the " army of Italy." Such was i n general talk a t Algiers, where war was not called iquestion. to a ' j l l.B said that orders have been given for ra tions of th r oe amount daily for the horses of the " arm y We - ., e Alps,” still called the army of Lyons ;, a nd t wr ," -e ar that the Moniteur may contain in a day or iv announc e ment to the effect that orders a re to the for the advance of "an army of observation" r frontier, with, however, some qualifying "lark s . i. It is reported that the Council of the Admiralty o'r-a_b°,llt to be consulted on the question of the . ilosru.truzation of a squadron of reserve. This ira -1854141 question was already discussed in the year 0.,,y T i n ,„ he rally on the Paris Bourse on Monday was i a gre e d to a larm ort that the Austrian Cabinet had i TAXA.TION.IN CITIES AND• BOROUGHS. to di ~arm and take part in the Congress, on Yesterday morning was issued a return of all cities and 4 "`" , Vaat the disarmament shall be general. boroughs in England and Wales . paying an annual amount ) of direct taxation (property, income, &c., and assessed less than £4,500, arranged in the order of the amount paid AUSTRIA. \rip . by each, and setting forth such amount; also distinguish tli -- IsNAI April 9. - Hardly any one here believes ino• by italics those cities and boroughs which are included i m a t Peace can be maintained, but I think that the in Schedule Gof the Representation of the People Bill. v,.,„P en d-ing evil might be averted if the British Go- The list is as follows.:—Ashburton, 1,286/. ; Dartmouth, i t ; "pent had sufficient moral courage to express 1 1 ,6 8 4 7 7 9 1 / ;; Honiton 1,648/. • Northallerion, 1,863/. ; Arundel, p o l d saPproval of the policy of the Emperor Na- St.Bl/Lyme Regis, 1,8921 ; Harwich, 1,973/..;lves, p ow e° n• This Governmenthas done everything in its 1 1,986/ . .; Ilelston, 2,02/. ; Totness, 2,065/. ; 8 ..5 0 1 d . min„ .•; Thetford; ' Knaresborough, 2,483/. ; Liskeard, 2,50 but-,e,r to obviate the necessity of an appeal to arms, 2,583/. ; 3faldon, 2,747/. ; Wareham, t 2,7991 . r , ; Launceston, bring the Emperor of the French evidently wishes to 2,812/. ; Westbury, 2,940/. ; 2,44/ ; Thirsk, ob lng about a and he will doubtless attain his 2,948/. ; Ludlow, 3,031/.; Caln l e, " 3 ln o l 3 n B B l 6 .; Evesham, 3,073/. ; heart, unless war,oc Majesty's Government takes Lymington, 3,1331; Tewkesbury, 3,1681; , Ripon (cit) 3,2411; l ate — 1 " , and plairay states that France cannot calcu- Cockermouth, 3,3681; M h d ur t, 3 3 , , 4_5 3 1 0 / 1 . ; . Tamworth, 3,453/; Great Marlow, eencil il i p ,• ib t co-operation unless she displays a more done 3,4761.; Bri port, 5 Woodstock, Horsham, 3,554/. ; tiu ,thing ever. -,,ory . spirit. Until now Austria has ' Andover, 3,603/. ; Brecon, 3,621/. ; ' oodstock, 3,677/. ; ' Radnor, 3,700/. ; Petersfield, 3,718/. ; Abingdon, 3,7591. ; 'which the mediating Powers have re- Chipping Wycombe, 3,921/. ; Beanmaris, 3,9861, ; New shsted her to do, but there is reason to believe that castle-under-Lyne, 4,0571. ; sewdley, 4,0601. ; Hav•trfore..- _, e is about to turn the tables on them, and to ask west, 4,097/. ; Penrn an Falmouth, 4,173/,`; Murton, i o lle a t ia tt e a r ek they are willin to give a guarantee that 4,2361.; Richmond, 4,2701. , .111arlborough, 4,,290L ; • Wells (City), 4,3091. ; Lichfield (City), 4,3401. i , f , o, 4,369/. ; shall be made on her by Sardinia „0_ mediating the Prance while the Congress is sitting. Should -Devizes, 4,3851.; Cardigan, 4,4761. e Di • . • Powers—who, in the name of the - ' oo 7 o,l p li ero r of the French. had promised that Sardinia Every girl who intends to qualify ror marriagashould go T Etut , a disarm —consent to give the required gua - through a course of cookery. - Ur:ortunately, few wives are .e, the Congress may perhaps Picot, but it able to dress anything but thetisehos, SECOND EDITION. NORTHERN TIMES OFFICE, WEDNESDAY, 9 A.M. COMMERCIAL. Consols shewed much firmness throughout the. day, and I closed about 1-1 6 per cent. above the advanced quotations established yesterday. Great support is still derived from the extensive purchases effected yesterday by influential operators, which are conntenanced by the receipt of more reassuring statements from several points of the Continent, as well as by a rally of no less than three per cent. which took place this afternoon in the Austrian Funds at Amsterdam. In the Discount Market the demand continues active, but the rate for good bills does not exceed 21 per cent. There were no bullion operations at the Bank today. The £106,000 in Australian gold by the Roxburgh Castle was purchased to-day for the Continent, as well as the bulk of the £59,000 by the Asia, from. New York. Government have already engaged nearly £400,000 in silver for the next 'Calcutta steamer.—Daily News City Article, Tuesday Evening. The repitition, in the Paris Pays, of the worn-out devise of quieting the public by a semi-official -assurance that the way has at length been smoothed to a removal of every difficulty, prodnced but a faint effect this morning on the English funds. The public at large do not believe that the Emperor Napoleon intends to promote a pacific adjustment on a basis that shall clearly recognise the treaty rights of Austria, and consequently prove such as can be accepted by that power, while it will utterly disappoint Sardinia. It is likewise seen that, if an arrangement were patched up to morrow, with the existing feelings of France, Austria, Sar dinia, and Russia still left in play, the pruspects of the repose of Europe would not be in the slightest degree better than at this moment. In the foreign exchanges, this afternoon, there was a further unfavourable movement in the Austrian rates. Other places were without alteration of importance.—Times City Article, Tuesday Evening. COMMERCIAL FAILURE. — The Times announces the sus pension, at Marseilles, of the firm of Aquarone,ls Porro, and Co. Their liabilities are understood to be large. INDIA AND CHINA MAlLS.—These mails reached Dover at 5.15 this (Wednesday) morning, and will be delivered in London during the morning. Mr. Stewart Wortley has been chosen by the Conserva tives in the Wrst Riding to stand against Mr. Frank Crossley. Mr. Wortley is likely to be supported by the Whigs. The Morning Post publishes a Paris despatch, which states that the government of England proposes that the question of a general disarmament shall be submitted to the plenipotentiaries as soon as possible after the assembling of the congress. The Times says the question put to Sir John Pakington and the Lords of the Admiralty may be decided by asking whether the Admiralty is a machine for producing an effective navy, or a machine for helping "a minister out of a parliamentary difficulty in the House of Commons. T HANICSGIVING DAY FOIL THE SUCCESS IN INDIA.—At the Privy Council held at Buckingham Palace, on Tuesday, the Archbishop of Canterbury was directed to prepare a Form of Prayer and Thanksgiving for the recent success in India, to be used in all Churches on Sunday the Ist of May. A sup plement of the Gazette has appeared, containing the usual ~„ form of notification. Tan BALLOT.—The Daily News thinks Lord John Russell's speech on the Ballot, last night (Tuesday), is calculated to facilitate the union of reformers. The Star is of a different opinion, though it admits Lord John Russell's speech will give a certain satisfaction to the friends of the Ballot. The Daily News says Lord John Russell himself still votes for publicity. It is with him little more than a matter of personal taste. THE NORTHERN TIMES, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 13 1859 IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS. TUESDAY, Their Lordships met at five o'clock, and were engaged for two hours in discussing on the propriety of re-committing a private bill, the preamble of which had been declared to be passed without hearing the counsel for the petitioners. The several bills on the table were advanced a stage, and the following were , read a third time and passed : The Savings' Bank (Ireland) Act Bill, the Indemnity Bill, and the Notting,ham Charities Bill. Their Lordships adjourned at half-past seven o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TUESDAY. The Speaker took the chair at four o'clock. On the motion for the second reading of the Appropria tion Bill, . Sir B. Hall asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he would have any objections to state to the House the reasons which had led to the dismissal of Captain Carnegie from the office of one of the Lords of the Admiralty, and whether Admiral Sir. Richard Dundas had also tendered his resignation, and had since been induced to remain. Also,. to ask for the name or names of the officers appointed to fill the vacancy or vacancies. He had, he stated, been informed that Sir Richard Dundas had been requested, at the approaching election, to stand for the borough of Dover. Sir Richard declined, and, on being . further pressed, had . tendered , his resignation. Captain Carnegie was then urged to go down to Dover, but was informed, by a confidential agent, that he would have no chance of success ; he therefore declined to contest the borough. After further pressure he resigned. He (Sir B. Hall) . had that day received a telegpahic message - from Captain Carnegie stating that he had not been dismissed, but that he had resigned in consequence of a difference of opinion as to what place he should represent. Sir W. Hoyte and Captain Mandey were asked to go to Dover, but both refused. Sir J. Herbert was then asked, but he was sent to Dartmouth. Sir H. Leeke was then sent for, bnt he was sent to Devonport, where he had a relative who was a government contractor. He found, however, that the dockyard men would not support him ; subsequently he stated to the electors that he had been made a Lord of the Admiralty, and that he would take care that the electors should have a share , in the perquisites now monopolised by Portsmouth. The manoeuvre was unsuc cessful, and he had now been sent to Dover. Two other naval lords were similarly treated in the same manner. Admiral Martin had expressed a desire to retire, and Sir R. Divides had accordingly retired, but subsequently been induced to remain. Admiral Bruce was sent for, but with out result. If these statements were true, the - effect of ;.11 .Tie proceedings would be to throw our service of the navy into utter confusion. Sir J. Pakington reprobated such questions in that house. Communications took place on the formation of every government, which ought not ;to be made a subject of public discussion. lie was, however, on the present occasion quite ready to answer the question. He had long expressed an opinion that the Admiralty should be represented in Parliament by some of the senior lords. This proved the case with respect to previous boards ; in no way more efficient than the present board. Havino. 'to fill up the office left vacant by Mr. Druminoncf, he asked Captain Carnegie to accept it ; at the same time he stated that he felt it a considerable disadvantage that of the members of the board were in Parliament, and ked Captain Carnegie if he would be willing to enter .ament if required. Captain Carnegie requir6d two days to consider, after which he accepted the office with those conditions. Matters rested thus until the dissolution was determined upon, and he then reminded Captain Carnegie of .his promise. .„Captain Carnegie showed a hesi— tation which he did not expect, and after three days declined to fulfil the conditions on which he had undertaken office. Captain Carnegie then tendered his resignation which he (Sir J. Pakington) at once accepted. He felt that the resignation was no compensation for the breach of engage ment, which he could not reconcile with the high sense of honour belonging to Captain Carnegie. As to Sir R. Dundas, he had a conversation with that officer; and then pointed out to him the advantages, which he had referred to, of having, as a lord of the admiralty, a seat in Parliament, and proposed three eligible places for which he could stand. Sir R. Dundas, after reflection, said that he could not stand for either of the places . mentioned, but that he recognised the advantages of a naval member of the board being in Parliament, and he, in consequence, offered to resign in favour of any person who could fulfil that condition. He (Sir J. Pakington) felt inclined at first to accept the offer thus handsomely given, but circumstances, unconnected with politics or electioneering, occurred after wards, which caused him to retain the services of Sir R. Dundas. He then, therefore, proposed to that officer to retain his seat, a proposal which was at once accepted. He bore testimony to the high character of Sir R Dundas throughout the whole of these transactions,, and appealed to the allegations of Sir B. Hall, as regarded the movements of Sir H. Leeke, who had replaced Captain Carnegie at the Admiralty. Sir H. Leeke had gone, it appeared, from Devonport to Dover, but the move on his part was not authorised by, or even known to, the Admiralty, till some time after it took place. It had been said that the process of threatening the expulsion of members of the Board of Admiralty if they did not accept seats in Par liament was carried still further—this was not true. Admi ral Martin had certainly offered to resign, but that offer was made altogether upon personal grounds. Admiral Duncombe.said, that an offer of a seat at the Board had been made him when the ministry came into office, but in such a manner that it was impossible for him to undertake it. He was required to take a position which was unbecoming his naval rank. Mr. B. Osborne said, that the first lord had shown more zeal than *".„prudence, in thus mixing himself up with electioneering matters at the present moment As to Captain Carnegie, he (Mr. Osborne) knew enough of that officer, to feel sure that he would perform anything that he • had undertaken What were the eligible seats offered to Captain Carnegie ? Had the government any right, for instance, to consider Dover a government seat. A. more serious question arose as to the political jobbing of the Board of Admiralty. After the revelations which had been made, no future parliament would allow the Board of Admiralty to remain as it was He would support any proposal for inquiry into the consti tution of that board, an inquiry which he had hitherto none he as] , Parli opposed. The Chancellor of the Exchequer urged the great incon venience of not having a naval member of the Board of Admiralty in Parliament—an inconvenience which had not occurred under previous administrations. It was the inte rest of the House of Commons that every department of the administration should be adequately represented in that house. They had suffered from the inconvenience for twelve months, and it was not surprising if her Majesty's government endeavoured to remedy it. The subject had been under consideration long before any dissolution was thought of. He confirmed, from a private conversation with Captain Carnegie, the statement of Sir J. Pakington, with regard to that officer. Sir G. Grey declared, from personal knowledge of Captain Carnegie, that that officer was incapable of violating an engagement into which he had entered. Sir C. Napier protested against the Lords of the Admiralty being thus sent about from one body to another. After some observations from Lord C. Hamilton, Sir E. Perry protested against the manner in which the naval boroughs were treated by the Government of Lord Derby. After some farther discussion the subject dropped, and the bill was read a second time. The Exchequer Bills, £13,277,400 bill was read a second words a limited meaning which they were never intended to have in general usage. As to the ballot, he felt more than ever disposed against it; as it now appeared, it was to be not optional, but imperative ; they would make a general election like a Quaker's meeting—performed in solemn silence. The ballot, instead of promoting the purity of election, would be the source of constant fraud, falsehood, and corruption. The same coercion now used to extort votes would, under the ballot, be used to extort promises. The same argument used in favour of secret voting in elec tions, would be applied to votes given in that house. • Mr. A. Mills opposed the motion, which was supported by Mr. Coning,ham. Mr. H. Berkeley replied, characterising the speech of Lord Palmerston as the most flagrant and injudicious rub bish he had ever uttered in his most jaunty days. The house divided, when the motion was negatived by 102 to 99; majority 3. The result was received with loud cheers by the opposi- tion. Mr. Monsell put a question to the Secretary to the Treasury, with reference to a sum of money which the County of Limerick has illetrally been compelled to pay on account of its extra police force. He further asked if it was intended to make any alteration in the present system. Sir S. Northcote replied that the el tire police force was established in strict accordance with the act of 1848, re lating to disturbed districts in Ireland . It was p erfectl y legal, and there was no intention of taking any steps to alter it. The other business was then disposed of, and the House adjourned at ten minutes to ten. --.-...............-^..." REFORM CONFERENCE IN MANCHESTER. , Yesterday afternoon, a large conference of the members of the Lancashire Reform Union, was held in the Free Trade Hall Assembly Rooms, at which Mr. John Bright, M.P., was present. Mr. George Wilson, chairman of the Union, presided, and after the minutes of the previous meeting had been read and confirmed, he said he totally denied that the appeal now being made by Lord Derby was not one; to the country, but simply ` , one to the 1,200,000 of electors. It was not an appeal even to the householders, but the £lO electors in boroughs, and the tenants as well in counties. To the land agents, and land stewards, to the electors of Thelford, and fifty-five other small boroughs Brig.ht's bill would disfranchise. (Cheers.) To such which Mr -0 appeals tiie object of the Lancashire Reformers Union would put a stop. (Hear.) He knew that if the prayer of every petition presented to the House of Commons for reform was known, it would be for such a bill as that brought forward by Mr. Bright. Mr. Geo. Thompson read an add (Applause.) - ress from the Lancashire Reformers Union to the country, stating that the issue upon which Lord Derby was going to the country was on reform de novo Sir E. Armitage moved that the address be printed and blished. _ Mr. II Ashworth s leconded the resolution, and it was carried unanimously. Mr. T. B. Potter moved the best thanks of the meeting to Mr. Bright, for having given to the country his plan o' reform; and that that meeting pledged itself to ende to get it passed into law. /Mr. T Barnes secolided the resolution, and it was carried Unanimously .eceived vd. Mr. Bright then rose s and Aval long continued cheering. , He sai abled at a time of intense That meeting wa upon what - might be done, touching a . quc ti on w Inc shortly might be settled for years, and perhaps for genera tions to come. lie should like to know' what people under stood by parliamentary reform, and how much of it they expected to obtain. He had proceeded in the discussion of this question of reform, in the belief that there was through out the whole 'of the middle and working classes of this country, the positive belief that parliament, "as it now existed, was not careful of the people's money— (hear, hear, and cheers)—and that it does not, on the legislation of home affairs, and in foreign politics in many cases, repre sent truly the public mind. Since he was last in that hall, hey had seen what might be called a good deal of the inner ife of parliament. They had had, from what boasted itself he largest party, a cabinet proposition for parliamentary 'eform. (Laughter.) lle. would not stay for a minute. to lescribe it. (Laughter.) Its character was tad, and its 'eatures so ugly, that those who ought to have been its identls, were anxious that it should be put under ground as icon as possible. This bill was not to give you a more popular representation, but, as Lord Derby once expressed himself, to stein the tide of democracy which threat ens to submerge the country. (Laughter.) And this, .uora Derby, the present premier, by parliamentary accidents, a PT 1 few days ago,.stood up in the liouse of torus, ana mace speech, in which he treated the people of this country with absolute contempt. lie treated them in no favour, and as though they were enemies to the throne and the constitution. Why, there was no monopoly of loyalty in Lord Derby's order. (Cheers.) The time might come when his (Lord Derby's) order and his (Mr. Bright's) might come in closer conflict. If Lord Derby's order were left alone in this Island, where would be the British nation ? (Loud cheers.) lie (Mr. B.) did not want to promote and discuss questions like this, but if Lord Derby chose to cast his taunts upon their (Mr. B.'s) order, the people of the United Kingdom, let him (Mr. B.) tell him (Lord Derby), from that platform, that there was a power in the state vastly greater man ins (Tremendous applause.) , They had now the ad . of knowing what the present government thought ofreform, and they had also heard it said that reform was a question which was now no longer one of those in the government wallet (Laughter.) Now, he (Mr. B.) did not want anything of the kind whatever from that manufactory again. Ho should just as soon think of going for his confectionary to that unhappy individual who sold the celebrated Bradford lozenges--(laughter and cheers) — as to Lord Derby for a Reform Bill. The question before the country was• not one that could be settled by Lord vantag ie sam able to allow other parties to coin for the h at cIE ELECTION NEWS. Mr. Alderman Copeland retiras- from Stoke-on-Trent. Mr. Overend, is the Conservative candidate for Pontefract. General Thompson has issued an iAdress on retiiing from Bradford. The Liberals have brought out a second cralVate for Bedfordshire. Sir Richard Bethell's address, offerin,himself at Wol verhampton, was issued on Monday. SELECT VESTRY The fortnightly meeting of the Select Vestry was held at ten o'clock yesterday, the Rev. Rector Campbell in the chair. The other members present were—Messrs. BT. - ford. Scott,. Smith, Williams, Denton, Hughes, Pecll,. Jackson, Ctitchley, Whitty, Chesney, Owen, Cafferata„ Cropper, Turner, Broome, William Jones, Whitby, and fauff. WORKHOUSE COMMITTEE, The proceedings of this committee were read. Mr. Cropper moved that the proceedings be conffrmed. Mr. Cafferata asked that the letter of the Rev. Dr. GOss, Roman Catholic Bishop, addressed to the. Workhouse Com mittee, should be read. - The letter was accordingly read. It has already been published, and was an application to the board to allow of the attendance of the Rev. J. Nugent, and Rev. Mr. Laverty, to assist the Rev. Mr. Fleetwood, during the Easter season, in consequence of the advanced years of that gentleman, and the additional duties which would devolve upon him during that period. Mr. Cafferata was rather surprised that the workhouse committee should have refused such a very reasonable request. It would be seen by the letter that it was con sidered by the Roman Catholic church of the utmost impor tance that every one should approach the sacraments at Easter. The Bishop very properly remarked that the inmates of the workhouse were generally an ignorant class, who would require much instruction for the purpose. The gentleman who performed the duty here was a very old man, and the Bishop did not consider him capable of ful filling the duties which might be required at such a season. He (Mr. Cafferata) therefore considered that it would be only graceful on the part of the board'to accede to such a request, and to enable the inmates to get the required instruction. He, therefore, moved as an amend ment that the request of the Bishop be granted. Mr. Peck seconded the amendment. He observed that he was the only member of the committee present who voted in favour of the request, as he considered it so reason able in itself, and so just, that there ought not to have been did not know what extraordinary y y second consideration about Mrs JE eras a well-known tions given in both churel re som certa appeared to him so reasonabl should, It is so sonable, if it be con rations tor Y. Mr. Caffern , Mi .th : Then I 11 certainly support le express opinton that the It )od performedl nd he (Mr. Cropper) never heard the nec, lity of additional that if w of hi; (Mr. Bright's) party. It could only be settled by the constituencies themselves. He (Mr. Bright) had never, as they knew, had any kind of faith in the politics of Lord Palmerston. (Hear, hear.) At the same time, he thought that on this question he (Lord Palmerston) might be said to be consistent. He had as fair a right to act upon his views as he (Mr. Bright) had, and therefore he did not blame the noble lord. He thought, however, that the people would not look up to him (Lord Palmerston) after what he had jnst said about the connty and borough franchise, for any real measure of reform. If they did trust to him, Mr. Bright thought they would trust to a I With regard to Lord John Russell he (Mr glad to see that he was in favour of a much larger measure of Reform than Many others of his order, and he had reason to believe that with - regard to the £lO county vote, his lord ship would make it a provision in his bill, that half that amount should be in a dwelling-house, so that pretended votes could not be created at will. He proposed also to give a vote to each occupier in. a borough who paid a rent of £6. This offer of his lordship it would be unfair to depreciate, and to say it was not . very much in advance of that of any other statesman.. If such a bill was introduced, it would be open for every member to make proposals upon it for further extensions. Tho propositions of Lord John were better than half a hun dred fancy franchises. A oonsiderable section of the House was disposed to follow Lord John with regard to this ques tion of reform. Numbers differed from him on the question of the ballot, yet he (Mr: B.) could not bat believe from his address that if the noble lord saw the constituencies of this kingdom add fifty or sixty votes this ele , . hose-already in t' house. he could: not but belier Lord tlohn) time. The Lien for Freight Bill passed through committee., Mr. H. Berkeley moved for leave to introduce a ztion to bill to cause the votes of the Parl iamentar y electors of Great Britain and Ireland to be ta ken by wa y of ae h last stand out of the way, and ouso, ie that no obstacle to the at he ballot. He adduced many practical instances of the would at be corrupt and violent influences brought to bear upon ballot in any bill which might receive the sanction of par electors, and replied at length to the usual argument urged liament. (Cheers) Then there was, another liberal section against the ballot. If these privileges were denied to the in the house; men who were not tied up by their aristo nation, it would demand, as aright, ° what it now humbly cratic associations, and prejudiced .; men, who. knowing the supplicated. people, having lived amongst them all their lives, were not Sir J. V. Shelly seconded the motion. afraid of them. . He hoped more of such men would be Mr. S. Escourt said that he felt it his duty to rise at once returned to parliament this next election, and that the to meet this motion by a direct negative. The ballot liberals would be more united in. the obiects the y had in would entail two out of the greatest evils that could view. The coming election was one of vast importance, and what the constituencies should do, was to return real befall a nation—losS of confidence and of the in fl u ence of men torepresent them ; not men who knew so little of these experience. Sir R. Bethell adduced the many statutes which ha d been questions, and dare not say anythi n g , and who would be made from time to time for the protection of the voter. contented with doing nothing. ,Le t them have a contest in The right of the voter was to give his vote freely, his every.constituency where ther the e waswanted a doubt, wand not com obligation was to give that vote i n de p endentl y . The promise. .) What yththe actual legislation was insufficient to enable them to do this, Rouse of Commons should be more distinct, and they and it became their duty to carry out the constitutional would then find that members would say some princile of the erect freedom of election. He denied in thing, either for the question or against it, and the strongest terms that secret voting . was contrary to the so parties would be in array against each other. (Cheers.) spirit of the constitution. It was said that the ballot was j They were now told that part; was broken up into small cowardly and degrading ; but was it so more cowardly and parties. It had been said that since rake we have had no degrading for a man to be coerced into a vote contrary to i real Government whatever. We had after Sir Robert his opinion, and to go about with a mask upon his face. Peel's Government several others, and now we were on the He believed that the ballot was consistent with the law and eve of having he believed another. The House of Com spirit of the constitution of the country. mons, as it was now divided, did not represent the people Lord John Russell admitted, that freedom of election was fairly, for we kuew that the Liberal electors were in accordance with the law, but not secrecy .of election. four to one of the other. After referring to Mr. Egerton's IPublicity was the principle of all political,Audicial, and candidature for South Lancashire, and the kind offer administrative proceeding's of the country. . He, neverthe- made by the late Earl of F...llesmere to him (Mr. Bright), less, had so far modified his former opinion, that be did not `when he was ill, the hon., gentleman concluded by thank believe it would have the injurious effect on. the character ing them for the resolution they had passed, and said ha of tne nation, which he once supposed , although, therefore, ' believed the bill he had submitted to on, the and country was li.a he felt bound still to o pp ose the motio n , as he thou g ht the ' moderate, jest, P;nd reasonable provisi h , balaace of evil PrePondered over that of good. Ho yet did asked no peron to pin his faith up . on his sleeve, he asKed as reformers, to fairly examine it, and to fix upon not think that any serious conse q uene- 3 would result from them, this or any othor mechanical contrivanee. somet l , - ,ing like it for the agitatilii on waioh we were new Lord Palmerston characterised the speech of Sir R. er..Cering. (Loud applause.) Bothell 43 A rainowent of fallacies ? and 41 g ivin g to legal The conference then adjourned, to convince the we was the first -ye r. Critchl n his b pinion seem house committee tion had been made into the workhouse. Mr. Jones said, in itself the application did app reasonable and ;unobjectionable, that if it were a season of the year when increased clerical duties had to be performed, there should be additional hands to perform them. At the same time, he thought it would be very well if the workhouse committee were informed what the whole of the require ments would be, in order that they might deal with them as a whole, and not have them brought forward piecemeal. Mr. Whitty stated that Mr. Fleetwood had to attend the Roman Catholics in the infirmary, and the Roman Catholic - 1? -n Orphans ; and, as the vestry were aware, ab comae Catholics in the workhouse frequently approached 1,000 in number. Tho Chni: and he was reason.why, an said, when the letter w ;t had been gist confess that the rea shewn to him, . _ satisfactory to bun. _ had a great deal to do, and big duties were increased at that particular season of the year very much. He therefore con sidered that when they remembered there might be perhaps Mr. Fleetwood was an old noman uaLuollUS ul 41.10.0 an vestry were bound by law to give every facility—he thought such a request coming before them, a request cot an nicretLbC st of assistance for three weeks, ought undoubtedly to be h , granted. (Hear, hear.) a 1 A division was finally taken, when Mr. Cafferata's amendment was carried by 13 to 6. n _ The remainder of the general proceedings were then con- c firmed. WE The proceedings of the industrial schools' committee s h were also confirmed. in, FINANCE COMMITTEE, The proceedings of this committee contained a recom- I,s lation to dismiss M- Downes, and I c Robinson their accounts ; to make a Roberts, cottage-rate collector, previous to ins ceedings ; and accept the resignation of Mr. Ire superintendent-collector. Mr. Jones moved that the proceedings be confirmed Mr. Cafferata urged that they were dealing wit rig pro- the I t cottage collectors in rather a summary manner. It Ins opinion were correct, all they were accused of were venial offences. In the exercise of justice, the vestry should endeavour to temper it with mercy;. and he was, therefore, I indisposed to dismiss those men so summarily, and deprive I. or any them of all means of livelihood. There appeared to be no . . little irregularity in not giving in their money every night, but that had not impaired the efficiency of their services as collectors, the amount of rates collected being very much He was- informed that they were increased of late year made their collections, to be aga.,.. ..aternoon. Considering that it would take them an 3 of half an hour to reach the extreme part of their :s. he thought the time allowed for the collection of 1, after havi m there ,at two in the averag tes was but very little impossible that under lie thought it quite zulation the offickers could referred to the dismissa that they be reprimand the chairman, ana committee be appoin I to Consider the rules tions of the office were req and - , to report iat alterations, :fficient regulation c Mr. Denton seconded the amendment. Mr. Jackson said, with the information apresent before him, he felt very much disposed to support. Mr. Caffarata's amendment. He thought if there were to be any. dis missals the finance , committee ought to be included. (Hoar, hear, and laughter.) He thought what:the officers- chiefly required was au, effwient head over thin, and a practical system. Mr. Cropper. said the officers did not, in fact, all attend at nine o'clock in the morning. They sometimes were not there for the whole day. It was not an unfrequent occurrence that they sometimes looked in for a few minutes and then went awaN. He did not think any ing cle at two o'cloc ks of his own NI gentleman. very v he whole sum of money which he had received and: not Duff said there was some little excuse for Mt When the rules were first made they were under the special directions of a committee, called.the cottage rating 'inrnittee, which, once a weak, looked over the books and led to the general business of the collection. A year or two after the committee fell into disuse, was not appointed again, and then the whole of the duty rested upon Mr. Ireland. Mr. Owen denied that there was the slightest reason why the officers should not hand in their money every day. As to Mr. Ireland, there was no imputation whatever upon his moral character, but he appeared to be wantinc , in energy, in resolution, and in. promptitude. He knew that these men were doing wrong, but had not the co urage to report it and bring it before the committee. The board could not have confi in the capacity of such a man to guide those beneath hiu., they ought to be controlled. It was only when Xi Roberts was likely to be prosecuted that he gaye in a l am each other. sum of money, which ought to have been paid in before. b Mr. Jones suppported the views of Mr. Qwen as to tht irregularities of the officers, and added that some of t h e amoneynd that a w t l t i h i ee h o h ffi a c d em bee h n ad pa b i e d co il h e a b d o b n e d e s n ra ra en ise fo d r b e y Ireland's resi gna ti on s h ould b e Finally, a division was taken, when , the amendment , as be stated u p on th e m i nutes that lost by 12 to G. lie c l e t p t N e v d a , s b a u g t re th ecl at that ho l l t u r a . no imputation rested. upon his moral character. The remainder of the proceedings were confirmed. is and Staintonto notice, the rescinding of a resolution, by which the ing Mr. Denton moved, accord' board had accepted the tender of Messrs. Day \ acceptance, instead of that, On a division, howeve for wines and spirits, and the r th t, of Messrs. Batey and Sewrizlit, This -cone Wed the i ..0 motion was lost, ... business. Ireland BOARD THE DEATH ON THE AKBAR. The adjourned inquest on the body of Joseph Marsden the boy who died on board the Akbar, was held yesterday at Mr. Crafters, Derby Arms Hotel, Rock Ferry,,hy Henry Churton, Esq., at half-past three o'clock. As already re marked, the case caused much excitement in the locality, and there were a large number of gentlemen present, amongst whom were several members of the Liverpool- Reformatory Co mm itt ee, connected with the ship. The gentleman wh o i nspects the Government re ships was also p resent, and took copious notes f r o e r v m e r a e t n o d ry of the proceedings. At half-past three o'clock the Coroner and jury assembled, when the cam was proceeded with. The following is the evidence given on the occasion.- Mr. Bluck was present to watch the case. Surgeon Roper, of the Akbar, was the first witness. I practice in Tranmere, and ant the medical officer of the I saw the boy on Monday evening week for the , professionally, but I had seen him before. on board in bed. He was apparently but of what the convulsion is completely at a loss to know. The body was cold ! he waspulseip first time He was convulsion, surface of the' scious w he slightest whole either could I dote r. Ho was con state of collates of collapse. we,ment of the heart'i to, , but. in a cones .cal powers - were...in a state ue lcokd at you, and his eyes were bright. was apparently in a complete state of collapse, but being spoken to showed consciousness. - Th e I am conversant with. was deep, convulsions were r He was frothing rnd snot' spoken to, L mouth, Appl it would not rouse him ; but when you it ceased. I have' since consulted Coglan (of the colnplaina . nt and he told - nie he could r anything he knew ' or not, we should t pplied all over the. hod, int you will, ►oke to the boy with . Doctor tature of his milate it to rouaht it on he was t him as if he,•were not. and hot fo t ations poultices to •ed. These reme- Id I ordered their hat was , done. I several parts, to restore circulation to the s nally gruel and port wine were administ dies were applied before I saw the bol continuance, as I quite cone ordered him into a hot b• Ted in el Inter- with 1: applied to various porti !mined with him about an hour, and Coglan, with instrnetiOns for the trE of water . I re- .e of Dr. everything I could suggest I ordered to be dc .ning I went to the ship, and the The following morning I made a Karnination.of the.body. Dr. Wood, the sen next mor death. be continued ; ne. At eight a heard of his aeon of ['here was nothing.particular on the external appearance of the body more than; :any other fb mortent the Hastings, :ssisted• me The neck and of the body wer would be ON there was miiic el to p na the aepentiant parts but that wt perfectly I blisters There was nothing to exci frotil the mustard The ma to the gravitation c he blood of vielen - ce on the bod. a single a the back I opened the itfon ; that Um removing s of the 'fusion ; Ight disor examined. back part of the head, there was position the boy wa kull I examined the membrai the top of ti ; • brain about the centre of the upper surface of there were• appearances of slight thickening o pia mater t e brain anc the basenf the skull, and everythir sected the brain, and found it perfectly hbalthy. I hi the chest, and examined the lungs ; there were adhesions to•a very great extent on the ltz - ngsi7 these are frequently the results of cold, of previous idiamations. The . lungs were quite healthy. I opened thq bag con taining the heart, but there was nothing wrong there ; the heart was .perfectly healthy. I opened the abdomen and examined the stomach very carefully. Its contained. about a pint of thick dark fluid, which Y I have no doubt ltel and port wine that had been given - , m)tying it, I examined the coats of the mach, to see if there was any corrosion' caused by aeral poi Son, and there was not ; they were in a perfectly filthy state. I examined the intestines and all were •fectly healthy. The liver, gall, and kidneys were rfectly so. What is your opinion as to the cause of ath ? It is rather difficult to form an opinion; lam not &position to form an opinion as to the cause of death. ) the Jury. I was not aware he was flogged'a day or two fore. I did not see any marks on him prior to death. Charles Hull, the-schoolmaster of the Akbar, was examined, d said the deceased attended the school from the 19th bruary, and he was a stupid sort of boy, but not very bborr , --L - a k r - as the g n. Aft( he pretended not to .now as much as he did; progressed slightly, and was obedient, but not very :tentive, lle feigned illness, or was ill all the time he as there, at one time he would be lame, and at another ot. I noticed that while moving about,.or in the school. ne Sunday, on shore, he complained that he could not ilk, as there were holes in his legs. I suspected lie was lamming, but I did not examine his legs: On the morn s; he died he seemed paralysed. I saw him punished, 3 might be punished once or twice a week, and was con antly brought before the captain, and cautioned for hia 'mind. Cane was used on the hand - or breech as the The trousers were. n®t taken down ; 'w. in his ►sense, his mate ; the cuts were more or les, according the offence ; the bay was dirty in his habits, but said could not help it, and principally.. from dirty habits he ceived punishment from the boatswain ; he was last anished on. Monday morning, the 4th April, by the boat rain; I think it was six cuts he got across the breech, rithout his trousers being taken dewn ; he seemed well nough in general health, and took:lAS. food well ; he was 'birched"' and deprived of his usual rations, and put ort read an& water, but not frequently ; after the flogging he d to be making fun of it, and made faces at the boys ; and hislead felt cold. I thought [lamming. ands rather cold. Captain Fenvaiek (the master of the tip) was with him then. He , was put in a warm bath after tat, anti I was with him till about ten o'clock. He cor )borated the evidence of Dr. Roper as to the treatment the oy. had - 1 after ti receives. .turdoetor was caned to see him. The atxmt eleven. There aro about 150 boys on board qnd the principal part are from the gaols of Liverpool. severely.treated as some boys! He said, a one oecasion, when he , was "birched," that he did not are for punishment. The health of the boys is very good on 'he-boy was not sc s of boys bei thout the ,sistance of the doctor. These boys wanted to get away cint the ship, and weraturecl without the assistance of the The Coroner said : It seemed to him that the captain paid every attention to the deceased. The witness said'.. there were no marks of violence on his body when. put into,the hot bath by th e ca p tain and myself. Surgeon Roper said, after h earin g Mr. Hall's evidence, he did not think the flogging had anything whatever to da with the death. Captain Fenwiek produced the cane that- the boy was flogged with, and it N ras an ordinary cane that one coukt buy for a halfpenny. Mr. Edward Parker, surgeon of the Liverpool industrial Schools, said the ckceased was formerly an inmate of that establishment, and under my care in the Infirmary from June to December; 185 J. He came to the Infirmary, as it was said he could not take his food, but I could not detect any reasort his loss of appetite, and he refused to take food until himself to starvation, and I was. seriously appre— ,...... _ ___ would have died from starvation. I ga ve li m ree or four raw eggs a day, mixed with. cinnamon water, ins sin tru all ;e 4 prevent such a result. He took it in the belief it as medicine. He was also sustained by beef tea. lthough he refused all food that was. given to him, we her boys at night; and anxious to get him to take food " It laynwd way ye to wasp prevent e t n h t e s h t a a b r i v t a o t i f getting on, I ipply other children with an extra.. I l e, ft‘, : 13 :h li e es m fr as ora ter thili t; ci n 1„ to supply hies . his own way. After some time he began to take his od, and in course of time ree _ overeclhis strength, and being mleavehissidered able to , id he then affected to be lame,- but I could find no cause it the lameness, and believed it to be feigned. After >me time he v i - . . Was disehar ed from the infirmary, mount • the other boys. g . The witness told some strange d b ot nee es about the deceased, but being from hearsay the. ury could not receive them as evidence. the Jury thought there was evidence enough for them.ta ;ome to a conclusion on the whole case. . 5 The Coroner then summed up, going through evidence in a clear and comprehensive manner, and left the question entirely to them. He did not think the corporal punishment inflicted on the boy had anything whatever to do with his death. He stated that the conduct of Captain Fenwick was excellent and exemptary all through, and that he was much to be admired for his kindness and humanity to the boy. . The y were oi the same opinion. from Dr. Paris's talons eases actually Dr. Roper quoted some c book on "Assumed Diseases," where able to feign death and faint. t a ti T o h n e o j f ul a ;' the Coronrr and the jury, pains and attention for the they had taken in the case. exi T yr li c e sse ß d e h v is tShisdnr Turner,to the Government Inspector, d a . t u once found a vordiet—" Of died by the via.— were then at sem:o'clock. • The jury the body