Northern Times. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-03-10 00:00:00

io 61 ;0 L it ," opi roo ° ol o , e e l „ e r ff f e' l Y, io: 0 0, 4 pito k 1' to itl rY ;(1; I sb~tfor ,ble fore t ti ro t j otb e o ffet )t 5 old f Ole ie IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. , HOUSE OF COMMONS Nt ,'EDNESDAY. Mr. S Estcourt took the oaths and his seat, on his re election for North Wiltshire ; and Mr. Lygon, on his re election for Tewkesbury. Lord John Russell gave notice that, on the motion for the second reading of the Reform Bill, he should move an amendment, of which h e s h ou ld , on t h e f o ll ow i ng d ay, l ay the terms upon the table of the House. On the motion of Mr. J. D. Fitzgerald, the Juries (Ire land) Bill was read a second time, on the understanding that the further pr ogress o f the bill should be delayed till the introduction of the government bill upon the subject, so that both measures might be considered together. CHURCH-RATES DEFEAT OF THE MINISTRY. Walpole moved the second reading of the Govern ment Church Rates Bill. Sir John Trelawney gave credit to Mr. Walpole for the good intentions with which the bill was introduced, but de clared that there was no solution of the difficulty except by the total abolition of the rates. He discussed the details of the bill at some length, contending that its provisions were unsatisfactory, and concluded by moving, as an amendment, that the bill be read a second time that day six months. Mr. Ilardc4tle seconded the amendment. Mr. S. Estcourt said, that because a system contained cer tain faults and deficiencies, it was no reason for destroying it altogether. This, however, was the mode proposed by Sir J. Trelawney. He was sure that the House were dis- Posed to act fairly, and would not, to suit the convenience of the few, abolish what was admitted to provide admirably for the wants of the many. He trusted that the House would allow a plan to go into committee, which contained Provisions calculated to remove the objections to the exist ing system. and said that a bill was brought in by the Lancashire and Yorkshire Company last year, seeking an amalgamation of similar matters. - * --- Mr. 'Power, Q.C., who appeared for the Midland Rail way Company, said that the course suggested by Mr. Webster, of making the Lancashire and Yorkshire pail way Company a party to the present bill, could not be followed, inasmuch as the requisite parliamentary notices had not been given. Mr. Webster said, in that case, it could be provided for by the insertion of a clause. They sought for protection against agreements being made behind their becks, which might seriously affect the traffic' of the Lancashire and Yorkshire Company, and in the bill which was brought in last year the committee had adopted a clause to provide for the publicity of agreements. He (Mr. Webster) asked that the Company, for whom be appeared might be placed in as good a position as either of the other companies promoting the bill, and he hoped the committee would not allow the traffic of their line to be pre judiced by the arrangements which were sought for under the bill. Mr. Webster having addressed a few observations to the committee on behalf of the Grand Junction Canal Company, for whom he also appeared, called Mr. Phillips, who deposed to a clause having been intro duced in the bill of last year, providing for publicity of agreements. ° Mr. Denison having been heard in reply, Parties were ordered to withdraw, and when called in after a lapse of fifteen or twenty minutes, The Chairman said : The committee have come to the following resolutions :—"That the preamble of the bill is proved. _ The committee will ,require clauses to be brought up-providing for the following things :—That the companies promoting the bill shall give notice to all other railway com panies, whose lines touch any portion of their own lines ; that such working and traffie arrangements have been made, and also whenever it is intended to revise the same, the same notice .to be . given to all canal companies similarly situated; ie given w hen it is in- that a general public noti tended•tO revise the agreement; thatpublic.general notice shall be given in the local papers, or the London Gazette, of such arrangements having been made and certified ; cor rect copies to be deposited at the head offices of the compa nies making the same, with the Secretary of the Board of Trade Department, and secretary of the railway clearing house ; all parties to have power to inspect the same during rAasonable hours of business, and take copies of the same, Sir G. Grey felt himself compelled to oppose a measure which only provided for the abolition of church rates, whe n a voluntary fund equal to the average amount of the rate should have been raised. Was it probable that the landowners in populous places such as the metropolitan dis tricts, would th us come f or th, and of their own accord sad dle th e i r property with a permanent charge of this kind. Y eti s it was in th ese p l aces that contests occurred, with all 'lose attendant scandals. Even in the country districts, if a ny owner of land was ready to fix the charge upon his estate, he could not get rid of church rates, unless others e xhibited equ a l rea di ness. He approve d , a f ter some hesita lln, of the Pr i nc i p l es o f t h e d ec l ara ti on by w hi c h it was fa te th a t th ose who felt consc i ent i ous o bj ec ti ons t o th e f might be excused from paying, though he thought the orgiin whi c h i t - now stoo d on t h e ta bl e o p en t o objections. justir heard - P,akington complained that the speech they . had s d e e t tsloeenttlle anion; s a t ru Proved that party spirit was still dominant opposition, who would neither attempt the p is of the qliestion themselves, nor allow others to of th e 'Le two principles of the bill were the commutation had rate ,and the declaration which enabled those who Si r trlscientious scruples to be relieved from its payment. • urre‘? hadexpressed his approval of both those prin ciples lec on a al to yet declared his intention of voting against the 4 .... reading of the bill. There was at least one advan ;:s attending the introduction of the bill. It stripped the af ter ti " of false pretences, and it would be evident here that the opposition to the rate had nothing to do with conscientiouse scruples, but simply arose from hostility to LEstablished Church. It had been said that the Church s nd e was a violence to the conscience of a few, but he con e. eu that its abolition would be a violation to the con se,ll‘ees of the many. The bill was brought forward in a 47' of fairness and conciliation, and whatever might be 'ate, the ministry had made a fair offer, which had e P• yet been done by its predecessors. ' it. R. Bethel than its advocates imagined they were—the offspring of the aced spiritwhich existed fourteen centuries irk ed of • tolerance °6 ' when all men: were compelled to be of one faith, and to a d opt the one form o f wors hip. The bill was compromise which he could not support. It can the practice by which the collector called Keriodically for money on persons who had no right to be ‘7 ll B called upon. Even if he could approve of the principle ? the bill, he felt sure that its details would not work, and Would open the door to every kind of fraud. Mr fl, Drummond was grieved to compelled to oppose - n ue hill, but he would neither have chicrch rates abolished, rates tampered with, or modified. The opposition to these attack had nothing to do with conscience; it was a direct ' a clt upon the Established Church, and he was therefore 'RI M M to oppose this, or any other measure of the k i nd. :r. pall supported the bill. ba yr. L owe observed that the rate had all the faults of a t ax ; it was uncer t a i n , unequal, and oppressive. He ob jected, si to th e measure as calculated to revive disputes in i o a c,es where th ey h a d b een l ong ex ti nc t. Th e cou ntry t:lid spurn such a compromise as that now proposed. Let an nl adopt either the voluntary or the compulsory principle, r not thus attempt t ) mix the two. d i , 11 '. Walpole reminded the. House, that they had now to T hose the principles of the bill, and not its machinery. t Cs principles were the voluntary commutation of o v e r at, and the exemption of those who conscientiously on J eted to it. He had beard from none of its opponents argument against either of those principles., He joined rekindle w ith Mr. Lowe in his assertion that the bill would ci-indle strife in parishes where it was now extinct, declar lele th at it only facilitated . voluntary arrangements. He defended the exemption clause of the y bill, contending that °the te one hand it did no injury to the church, while on the not a was a message of peace to the dissenters. It was v o i„ e ,nt of distrust that he did not entirely depend on the whiliary princile but there were parts . of the country c could not be reached by that means. M r ,„, of th • flanks Stanhope made some observations in favour rigidc bill inaudible amid the impatience of the House. h i e } louse then divided, when the amendment was car - The2s4 to 171. bi 1 was consequently lost. Rouse then adjourned at six o'clock. upon payment of reasonable costs" The committee were engaged in the discussion of clauses up to four o'clock, when they adjourned. THE WIRRAL WAThR WORKS BILL. FROM OUR OWN REPORTER, HOUSE OF COMMONS, Wednesday. The Select Committee on this Bill assembled this after noon at two o'clock ; Mr. Kerr Seirmer in the chair. Mr. Hawksley, cross-examined by Mr. Hope Scott, Q.C. : As a general principle, I prefer gas and water works being in the hands of private companies rather than under the _ _ management of public bodies. In 1857, I proposed two new wells for the Birkenhead water-works. They were rather more than A mile and a quarter from each other, but they had no reference to drawing water from each other. We had reasons to believe that we should be opposed by the Birkenhead Commissioners as to the site of one well, and I, therefore, thought it desirable to have two strings to one 'bow. Latterly, there has been a depression in the supply of water at the Liver pool wells. Since yesterday, I have made a measurement, and I find that over the area of the Liverpool wells, there is only a depth of six inches of water. .There has been a depression of 54 feet in the water-level in the yielding power in the area of the district, caused by the water drawn from the Green-lane well, the property of the Liverpool corporation. Re-examined by Mr. Webster: I stated yesteiday, that in the red sandstone formation, wells three miles apart will be affected by each other, and I repeat that statement. The Green-la j ne well affects wells three miles distant. On the Liverpool side of • the Mersey, in consequence of the exhaustion of the fresh water by pumping, the salt water has found its way into the wells, and has necessitated the abandonment of the wells, which have been im pregnated. At the • Green-lane well the water was originally of the same quality as the water on the Birken head side, namely, five or six degrees of hardness, but it has now become, in consequence of the pumping process, of twelve degrees of hardness. _ _ _ O By Mr. Hope Scott : In 1845 an act was applied for by the Liverpool Paving Commissioners, and in that act there was a clause inserted which provided that no wells should be sunk by the Commissioners within the parliamentary borough of Liverpool, or the township of Toxteth Park. or Within the distance of a mile and a quarter from _the Wind sor well, or one mile from,the Harrington well. By the Chairman : I do not attribute the depression of the water level on the Liverpool side of the Mersey to any deficiency in the rainfall, but wholly to the exhaustion of the fresh water by the pumping process. The original level of the water at the Green-lane well was about 30 feet from the surface, but the well is now about 180 feet deep. The Chairman : But the original level was occasioned by the accumulation of water, which you could never expect to find again after you had once exhausted it. Mr. Hawkesley : As we pumped the water out, of course the level gradually went lower and lower. Recent examinations have shown that the water level is now depressed 54 feet lower than it was when 1,000,000 gallons per day were obtained. Mr. Cunningham : Mr. Duncan says that is not so. Mr. Hawkaey : I believe Mr. Duncan is here, but I have had more experience than Mr. Duncan, and I say it is a fact. _ _ _ . This was the case for the Birkenhead CommissiOners. Mr. Robert Ellison Gorst, examined by Mr. Calvert : I am a surgeon, residing at Bebi)ington I attended a meeting in Tranmere, in February, for the introduction of the local government act. I also attended and presided at another meeting for the same purpose, on the 4th of March. Mr. Lloyd, solicitor, explained the circumstances under which the meeting was called. Mr. Gill then entered a protest against the legality of the meeting. The local government act was explained, and a motion moved for its adoption. An amendment was moved, but a resolution for the intro duction of the bill was carried by a majority of 3 to 1. Cross-examined by Mr. Hope Scott : The question of the local government act was not started until very recently. I did not ascertain until some time after Mr. Perrey's letter, that there was such an act in existence. There was a board of health in existence in Tranmere, about a year ago, but I believe it has died out. I know nothing of the origin or acts of the board ; all I know of it was, that it was of very little use. It was useless from the want of power. I have long ceased to take an interest in it Mr. Hope Scott : In point of fact it had plenty of will, but no power. Witness : Very probably I was requested by Mr. Liversidge and Mr. Webb to allow my name to be used as summoning officer under the local government act. Mr. Webb had a water scheme of his own some time ago. I did not apply to the Secretary of State for the appointment of summoning officer, nor do I know who did; but it was most likely done by the gentlemen who waited on me. Twenty ratepayers signed a requisition to me to call a meeting, and, when I received the appointment, I convened one accordingly. The meeting was a general one, and the protest was against the general character of the meeting, Mr. Gill contending that it was not such a meeting as was contemplated by the local government act. The meeting was a very stormy one. My son was present at the meeting, but I was not aware of the fact until the proceedings were over. I am not aware that he voted. Mr. Hope Scott : Then for what purpose was he there ? Witness : I suppose to escort me home. (A laugh) Mr. Hope Scott : A very dutiful son. (Laughter) Cross examination continued : A poll was demanded at the meeting, but the result is not likely to "be known for some time—not until the labours of this committee are over. Re-examined : For my own part I should have been glad if the sitting of the committee could have been post poned until the result of the poll was ascertained. The proceedings were going on when our parcel was despatched. THE LONDON &NORTH WESTERN RAILWAY, AND OTHER RAILWAY COMPANIES CWORSING AND TRAFFIC ARRANGEMENTS) BILL. I TANT RESOLUTIONS OF THE COMMITTEE [FROM OUR OWN REPORTER.] The HOUSE OF COMMONS, WEDNESDAY. 'Cluti r. committee sat at one o'clock, Mr. Ridley in the I,l°llrth! committee assembling, asl i i re Webster proceeded to open the petition of the Lan cer tl l i„ i t!t, d Yorkshire Railway Company, against the passing !hir e / 1 1 311 . He submitted that the Lancashire and York .?e t ri ,,atiNvay Company should, to all intents and purposes, be eff ,;', Parties to the arrangements which were sought to any: e ; ' e d under the present bill, inasmuch as that corn bill, e „il common with the three companies promoting the astlihseirej°Yed stations upon the respective lines of railway of ° Mpanies. Beyond that, they may relieve the Lan and wod Yorkshire Company from the extreme difficulty i nl „Ze s nl, and a state of circumstances Under which it is ag 4 e ible that company could assent to the proposed Tway they unless the promoters of the bill met them in the s hi rec proposed, and make the Lancashire and York le° that°l ll in p a a sm ny ue p l a i r a t s ie b s y to the bill. The committee would t he Gre the existing legislation, assuming ltaili va at Northern, and the Manchester and Sheffield atra _ Y Companies have now the means of making ee,ruements in respect of the traffic which li ne :, on the Lancashire and Yorkshire Company's I .,,,._ n eFause they . possessed stations in common. If the o ' r l si t i bill passed in its present form, the Lancashire and i re Company beinc , no parties to it, the London and North-Western Company,who had another common NAPOLEON I. AND LORD WHITWORTH, IN ' intyerest at Live r p oo l, Preston, and many other places, would 1803, COMPARED WITH NAPOLEON 111., Willie:le means o f ma ki ng arrangements in respect of traffic IN 1859. cashir c ame to and from stati ons upon the line .of the Lan- to THE EDITOR OF THE NORTHERN TIMES. weuld e s and Yorkshire Railway Company. The committee Sir,—Savary,, who was an eye-witness at the ure, it e? that if arrangements of the nature contemplated I ll a U t dercelebrated interview, thus writes : " I was only at . s measure were to receive the sanction of the Legis was impossible that could be done, unless the Lan- 1 the distance of a few paces from the First Consul, cashir e and Yorkshire Company, who were as much interested when, stopping before the English Ambassador, he 1 ' arrant' " other Company could be in the proposed t ra ffi c put the following hurried questions to Lord Whit , lien 6. . l 'lents, were made parties to those arrange- worth, in a tone of anger : ,re the C ompan i es had The Lancashire and Yorkshire Company 1 ' What does your Cabinet mean ? What is the a much greate r i n t ere st in all these matters than 1 motive for raising these rumours of. armaments in en promoting the bill could possibly have, ! our harbours ? How is it possible in this manner act use a g l ance at the map would s h ow th a t, i n p o i n t of to impose on th e cre d u lity o f na tions, or t o be so , a larg e p ort i on of the traffic fl ow i ng. from London to ' ignorant of our real i n te n tions. . . . If the 'the north was l oca l traffic and it was in respect of this : actual state of thi ngs b e known, it mast be evident l ocal traffi c th at they were most virtually interested. They to all that there are on l y t wo transports fitting out were carri ers f rom the manufactur i ng di s t r i c t s , an for S& D o ming go. . . : Why th,en these com- Eue a f g o a r in w t a o r lr d ,f elaged with blood ? co nsequently were identical in the same interest plaints? ~,,_ reparatio ls ns lvith,the promoting Companies. Such being the case, he , destroyed, but never intimidated.' '' (Elie , earned counsel) asked why wero they not to be made i awe us. .c, making • o pretend to over- Parties to this bill ; He would say, that p . racticall; . and x ranee may be conquered, perhaps st,b stantially this w . as, so far as the Lancashire and ork s with the letter to Sir Francis Head, Compare this shire Company and the public were concerned, an amalga !nation bill. Hi s learned friend, Sergeant Wraugham, had and draw your own conclusions, gentle reader. r etorted upon th em , t h at i t was not an ama l gamat i on bill, Yours / &c., ANTI-HUMBUG. THE NORTHERN TIMES, THURSDAY MARCH 10 1859 THE ,90VERNMENT REFORM BILL. M R. BRIGHT Ai: _BIRMINGHAM BIRMINGHAM, WIONESDAY EVENING. A crowded meeting was held, to-nigh:l4 in the Town Hall, for the purpose of considering the Dvrby-Disraeli Reform Bill. The doors were besieg . ed long before the hour of opening, and the utmost anxiety was evinced to obtain admission to the. hall. The number present must have exceeded 6,000. Ernest Jones made his appearance shortly before the chair was taken, and he was received with a perfect storm of disapprobation. . Mr. George Edmunds, the veteran reformer of '32, entered shortly afterwards, and was greeted with loud and en thusiastic cheering. Mr. Bright came on the platform, amidst vociferous cheering and waving of hats, which lasted for several minutes. _ _ W. Lacy, Esq., was called to the chair. He explained that it was intended Mr. P. H. Muntz, in the absence of the M vnr through illy. but circumstances had prevented his attendance. **. Mr. Geo. Edmunds moved the first resolution, which was as follows :--- " That the Reform Bill introduced by Her Majesty's Government, while pretending, to effect a settlement of . the question, makes no adequate provision for the enfranchise ment of the working classes ; disfranchises an intelligent .and independent class, viz., county voters; does not provide the.proteeti on of the ballot, an d leaves small corrupt boroughs and dependent bnroughs in possession ofall amounts. of in fluence which counteract and swamp the real opinions of the country, and is an insult to the people, and demands the uncompromising opposition of all true refoi mers." (Loud cheering.) - Mr. Edmunds made an effective speech, and warned his audience against being led away by those who traded in the ignorance of certain classes of the people, but who wore in reality no friends to the popular cause. (Hear, hear.) Alderman Lloyd briefly seconded the resolution. Mr. Bright was then called on by the Chairman to support lasting for upwards of five minutes. He commenced y referring to the great meeting which he had addressed in that Hall in the month of October Last, and reminded them that he had then stated that the cause of parliamentary reform was in a triumphant and, at the same time, in a perilous position. It was triumphant inasmuch as not one dare openly profess himself against reform—(hear, hear)— d it was in a perilous position in so far as for the moment the conduct and coniideration of the question were in the hands of men who had been the consistent'opponents of all reform. (Hear, hear.) He had warned them that they ought to entertain a wholesome suspicion respecting the there that night to ask them whether the warning of " hear, hear," and " yes, yes.") He then told them that the cause of parliamentary reform, was at . once triumphant and perilous, Triumphant .because no man dare stand up against reform, and perilous because opposed by many who held high offices in the State. (Hear, hear.) The bill of Lord Derby adhered to the ancient principles and practice of his party--(hear ; hear)—and was opposed to the requirements of the people. Who had asked for a measure of reform ? Did a majority of the House of Commons ? • Did the gentry and clergy of the country demand it ? But some persons must have asked for it, and who were they? (Hear.) They must remember that the Government had put in the mouth of the Queen a recom mendation for a change in the representation of the country —(loud cries of " Hear, hear") —because there was a clear conviction in the minds of influential people, that the House ,• - - of Commons did not represent the opinion of ene out of five who had a vote for the return of members to that House. (Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Bright), and the party with whom he acted, had asked for an extension of the elective franchise; but not as against any class. (Hear, hear.) They did not want to draw a line of distinc- tion—ktd gloves on• one side, and the working men on the other; nor did he look to the timidity or boldness of parliament on the question ; but the working classes, fairly, as he thought, asked for a fair measure of representation, and not for the impudent delusive sham, in which voting papers Were substituted for the ballot. (Loud cheers.) They, asked that two or three hundred electors should cease to return members in their little circles, and that those members should be distributed among the great oonstituencies of the country. (Continued cheering.) How the leader of the House of Commons could have occupied the house for between two and three hours with such a bill as the government produced, he confessed puzzled his comprehension. (Cheers.) • Mr. Scholefield, the other member for Birmingham, here ascended the platform, and was warmly and loudly cheered. Mr. Bright continued : Men stood aghast at, and refused his bill of the e.overnment. He (the speaker) wished to lescribe two or three of its main points, It had yielded to he proper demand for a reduction , in counties of qualifica :ions from £5O. to £lO This concession was not made through any previous votes of the House of Commons, but through a belief by government that there was a necessity in its favour. Mr. Bright here referred to the statistics of Mr. Newmarch, and observed that, according to them, the concession was only a colourable one, and that by this bill one hundred thousand voters in England and Wales would be disqualified for voting in the county elections, and turned over to the boroughs, for which many of them already pos sessed a right of voting. This would have the effect of really disfranchising about 60,000 of the most independent among the constituency of the United Kingdom. (Hear.) The speaker alluded to the rejection of Mr. Disraeli's Budget of 1852, and contended that he was influenced by the territorial interests in the House of Commons. There was a monoply in the legislation of the country which should not be per petrated by the territorial interests— (cheers) but partici pated in by the industrial classes. (Loud cheering.) By the movernment bill many persons who had property in Birmingham, but resided in Cornwall or other parts of Eng land, would have a vote for that borough, and how easily could half a dozen gentlemen, by purchasing property under such circumstances, convert it into one of those rotten boroughs, disfranchised by the Reform Bill of 1832. The government pretended to improve the country constituency, but managed so that the small boroughs would lose the little independence they now possessed. (Cheers.) In referring to the clause in the government bill, giving the franchise to the depositor in a savings' bank to the amount of £6O, Mr. Bright said that amongst a voluminous correspondence, with which he was favoured, was a letter from a working man in Birmingham, who stated his case thus : —He had £lOO in the Bank of Messrs. Spooner and Attwood, and he wished to be informed whether, under the enactment of the Government Bill, he would not be required to with draw £6O of that - amount and place it in a savings-bank (laughter;, for the purpose of qualifying for the franchise. He had had another letter from a working man resident in Londonovho said he had deposited in the first instance, £5 in a savings' bank. He had a family of five or six children to bring up and educate. His deposit, from sickness and other causes, diminished to £4 ; and again, by fluctuation of prosperity, and the reverse in his circum stances, reached the amount of £5O. This man asked him whether such a condition of affairs would bring him within the pale of the franchise. Mr. Bright dwelt particularly on this case, and argued that through a great many eirenmstances —the education of his children, sickness, or a desire to assist a friend in need—thebalance at the savings bank would be fluctuating, and consequently, virtually, according to the terms of the measure, disqualifies a man who, in every point of view, was entitled to electoral priviliges. The government bill was inquisitorial in principle (loud cheers), insulting and absurd in its provisions, and should be rejected by the unanimous voice of the country. (Continued cheering.) Sir Benjamin Hall had dissected the returns of the Savings Bank of Newport, Monmouthshire. There were sixty de positors, nearly one half of whom were women (a laugh), but it was much to their credit. (Cheers.) Well, according to this return, the number of parties qualified under the government bill would be just one. (Laughter.) This would show that the Government, with a show of reality of the franchise, meant the perpetualexclu sion of the working classes. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Bright then glanced at the opposition offered by the late Duke of Wellington to the Reform Bill of 1832, and observed that the Duke himself had never ventered to hint at the disfran chisement of 50,000 legally . qualified electors. Freedom could not be put down. During the last seven-and-twenty years, the progress in knowledge of the working classes had been manifest to all, and the intent of the bill introduced by government tended to show that they (the government) not only distrusted the working classes, but despised them. The speaker counselled strong and resolute conduct on the part of the people. The remainder of the hon. gentleman's speech comprehended those arguments which are by this time so familiar to the British public. He resumed his seat amidst a perfect storm of cheering. It is necessary to state, that previously to the commencement of the proceeding;, Mr. Ernest Jones accompanied by a small knot of local chartists made his appearance on the platform. His appearance was the signal for an outburst of feeling, that would have probably deterred any man of less firmly con stituted nerves from persevering in an audience who - were almost unanimously opposed to his peculiar opinion. After a severe_ - tassel at the back of the platform, in which Mr. jot/es seemed likely to realise the fluctuation of popular oninion. he was rescued by some of the gentlemen who sat around Mr. Bright, and occupied a seat immediately behind that gentleman. The Chairman, for the second or third time, requested the immense assembly to preserve order, and Mr. W. Scholefield then rose to address the audiente. He was received with much approbation ; and with refer ence to the attempt of Mr. Jones' friends, said that the pre sent meeting was essentially a meeting of the inhabitants of Birmingham, though he was quite assured that any per son who had a right to be heard, would be heard. He still held that, in accordance with the terms of the notice con vening the meeting, the Chairman was the proper party to decide whether Mr. Jones should be heard, and if that was not satisfactory, he (the Chairman) would take the sense of the meeting on the subject. Mr. Scholefield endorsed the opinions of his colleague, and sat down amid much applause. Mr. Lacy rose, and asked for a hearing for Mr. Ernest Jones, who hr ‘ d come all the way from London to address them. The people of Birmingham were distinguished for their impartiality, and he hoped they would prove their right to be so distinguished try granting him a hearing. The men of Birmingham were quite capable of deciding on the reform question, and he would take care that they had the opportunity of doing so ; but he wished they would give Mr. Jones a hearing, and he asked them if they would do so. (Loud cries of "No.") It would reflect discredit on the town if they did not • do so. He then put it to the meeting, and the show of hands was entirely against Mr. Jones being heard. - This gentleman then retired amidst the utmost confusion, and the loudest possible groans, which, on his reaching the door, were succeeded' by several rounds of applause. The first resolution was then put to the meeting, and carried unanimously. _ Alderman Baldwin then rose to move the next reso lution, and observed that unanimity was necessary to secure a bill as good as that which had been proposed - by Mr. Bright, and with one less than that, he trusted, they would not be satisfied. He regretted the difference that had occurred, for they could not afford to differ. They must agree to sink their little differences till they had obtained the victory. Me:t did not fight amongst themselves whilst in the midst of the battle. (Loud applause) He concluded by moving the following resolution : " That this meeting is of opinion that it is the duty of all liberals in arid out of parliament, in this condition of the reform question, to sink all sectional and personal differ ences, and combine in opposition to a bill which• unsettles everything, and settles nothing, and which if passed into law, will produce political discontent and renewed agitation,. and that it re-affirms its opinion that no Reform Bill can be satisfactOry which does not include a large extension of borough and county franchise, vote by ballot, and re-distri bution of members more equally of property and popula tion." * Alderman Minton briefly seconded the , resolution, and said unanimity was essential to get what they wanted. " The reselutien was put to the meeting and Tarried. Mr. J. S. Wright proposed the following resolution : " That a petition 'founded on the foregoing resolutions, by the Birmingham Reform Association be forwarded to the members for the borough, for presentation to Parliament." 'lt was seconded by Mr. J. Taylor, and carried unani mously. Mr. Lacy having left the chair, a vote of thanks was proposed by Mr. Bright, and unanimously seconded by the entire audience, and after several 'hearty rounds of applause the meeting terminated. THE PMENIX PRISONERS. TRALEE, MARCH 8 True bills were returners against Daniel Sullivan, Florence Sullivan, John Sullivan, John Connor, and Patrick Hennessy The piisoners pleaded " Not Guilty.° Four jurors were put aside for the crown, and sixteen for the prisoners. Mr. O'liagan, for the prisoners, would not consent that they should join their challenges. The Court then proceeded to try Daniel Sullivan, for treasonable felony. _ The witnesses on both sides were ordered to leave the court. _ _ vv The Attorney - General, Mr. Whiteside, then pro ceeded to state :the case for the prosecution, which he said was essential to the best interests of the country. The prosecution was' founded on an Act of Parliament passed in 1848. It was passed in revolutionary times, when the Legislature felt it necessary to interpose between the Crown and the subject. The third section of the Act quoted, that if any, person after the passing of the statute should " compass,.imagine, invent, devise, or intend to deprive her'lla.jesty of her royal name, or to levy war against her in any, part of the United Kingdom, or encourage any foreigners, &c., to invade the United King dom, should be transported for life, or not less than seven - years, or be imprisoned for not less than two years. He charged the prisoner with conspiring with other persons to subvert the Constitution of the country, and establish in Ireland a free democratic republic. About a year ago, a person who was known by the name of Shuke, but whose real name was Stephens, passed through this country, appearing at different places, and enrolled persons in a secret society. This man had escaped justice. .He was understood as the person through whom aid was to come from America, and to get money from America. Some others of the conspirators were to get money from France, and one of their objects was to get back the confiscated estates. The conspiracy began early in 1858. The oath taken was as follows : " I solemnly declare, in the presence of God, that I renounce the allegiance to the British Throne, and that I will yield implicit obedience to the commands of my superiors in a secret society ; and, above all, to take up arms at a moment's warning, and to make Ireland, at every risk, an independent democratic republic." It would be proved that the prisoners had solicited another man to take an oath to join in pulling down the grants of this country, and to obey the leaders of the secret society, and was told by the prisoners that the French were pre pared to land in the country, to assist in subverting the Constitution, and produced a book to swear him by. The case for the prosecution not yet finished. lowing THE NEAPOLITAN EXILES.—The Times congratulates the Neapolitan exiles on their arrival, and says there is an instinct stronger than all political calculation which calls on us to do honour to these men. The Daily News says that the acceptance of Prince Napoleon's retirement has been dictated by temporary con siderations, and will not be followed by any material changes in the ultimate aims of the external policy of the French Govornment. Mr. S. Estcourt, the new Home Secretary, was re-elected on Tuesday. In addressing the electors he said—The new county qualification, from an occupation of between £lO and £2O, would create 342,000 additional electors. and there fore the Government Bill could not be considered a small measure. NAVAL APPOINTMENTS, MARCH B.—Paymaster (addi tional)—James Lewis, to the Impregnable. Surgeons— W. T. Rogers, to the James Watt; A. U. R. Preston (additional), to the James Watt; Thomas H. Keown, to the Hero; J. W. Bradshaw (additional), to the Hero. Acting-assistant Surgeon—Patrick Keelan, to the Hero. Assistant-surgeon —John L. Palmer, to the James Watt. Master's-assistant -John J. Covey, to the Rhadamanthas. Clerks—Cuthbert R. Radham, to the St. Jean d'Acre ; Alfred P. Cox, to the Exmouth. EXCISE DUTIES, STAMPS, AND CUSTOMS.—From a re tubu just issued of the sums derived from the Excise Daties, Stamps, and Customs, during each year since 1 816 , we obtain some valuable information. As the . total sum obtained in each year is given alone, without any detailed information, the return is not of so much use as it would otherwise have been, and affords no data from which to determine what duties are the most productive to the revenue. The revenue derived from Customs duties has increased with tolerable regularity since the earlier years to which the statistics refer. In the years between 1816 and 1825, the sums paid into the Exchequer from this source varied between nine and twelve millions. From the latter date, to 1834, they varied between sixteen and seventeen millions. In the year 1835 the amount had reached 18 millions, and in 1836, 20 millions. From that time till 1855 the variations are between twenty and twenty-one millions, never falling short of the first sum, and only during one year (1845) reaching twenty-two millions.. For the last three years on the list they are twenty-three millions. The cost of collection has not varied very greatly, and always about £1,500,000 a year, 1858 excepted, the cost of collec tion in that year having apparently been no more than £843,000. The net aggregate sum available to the Ex chequer from " Excise, Stamps, and Taxes," taken together, does not exhibit so great a degree of regularity. The first year on the list, 1816, was the most productive of Za nya, the the net available sum being £57,377,537. Until decline is very marked, the total amount for that year being only £24,345,246, From then till recent years a tendency to increase is shown; but the revenue appears to fluctuate a good deal. The decrease seems to have been principally in the Excise department, since the total revenue from this source was 29 millions in 1816, and is only 17 millions in 1858. In 1843 it had fallen so low as 124 millions ; and in many succeeding years, though none of the preceding, did the revenue amount to 13 millions. In the. Stamp Department a slight inw.:case is perceptible since the earlier years on e list, an 'an increasedlBl9, revenue. In 1816, however, the revenue from this source was considerably larger ; and this will partly account for the huge sum wlnch.is given: ix). the return as the revenue for that year_ TOWN COUNCIL The Council met at eleven o'clock yesttilty, specially to dispose of the business which remained over since the sud den breaking up of the meeting of last Wednesday. The William Preston, Esq , presided. THE RECENT ADDRESS TO HER MAJESTY. The Mayor said : Gentlemen, the council will be aware that at the last meeting an address to her Majesty was unanimously agrefid upon by the members. It was left to rare a filo r rawn -clerk to ascertain in what manner it wotilfl be most gratifying to her Majesty's feelings to receive the address. I wrote to Mr. Ewart, M.P., to make application in the usual way, and he did so, and I received a letter from the then Secretary of State, Mr. Walpole, informing me that it would be received by deputation. Accordingly, a deputation, consisting of Mr. Stewart, the mover, Mr. Chas. Turner, the seconder, and myself, presented the address at the levee . of the 23rd of last month, and I can assure the council that it was' received in her Majesty's usual gracious manner. (Hear, hear.) I should, perhap3, add that the Recorder of Liverpool accompanied the deputa tion to the levee. FINANCE COMMITTEE. The proceedings of this committee contained the fol- Resolution of magistrates recommenaing that the salaries of Mr. T. M. Andertou and Mr. Richard Ellis, clerks in the magistrates clerks' office, be increased from £l'so to £ l / 4 200 per annum each, tbe. consideration cf which was post poned at the last monthly council, pursnard to the standing nt Mr Thomas Hunter as committee with greater pleasure. This was a very itepor tant thoroughfare, and he thought if they had paid more attention to the approaches to the town hitherto, they would have been better off at the preseLt day. A more appro priate appropriation of the surplus funds could nOt be made. Mr. Earle said he had no doubt this would be a most proper improvement. It came out of the corpotate funds, and not out of their pockets directly, and it Was perhaps all the better for tl:at. He hoped it was only tfit'forerunnee of other improvements in the outskirts, and he hoped Mr. Stitt.wonld support other improvements in that Way, not out of the corination funds, as they could not do nineh that way_ he was sorry to state. The recommendation was adopted unanimously. Mr. Stewart moved the adoption of the fourth reeonunen lation, to accept the tender of Mr. J. IT. Mullen to erect a new bridewell, c&e.,'for the sum of £5,733. The motion w carried. Mr. Stewart said he would leave the report of the building illumination of the clock of the ition of the council. He then gs, an d observed seconded by Mr. Hahne, and unanimously )r, in reference to tilt fall, for the consi moved ti teral pro, \Tr SZI,:. aridfiiinself, had au- ,tart of State, in reference to h nothing was concluded, they It would he seen, 14 300 to pay the cost ling, WAS SCCOllth by Mr, e next ated at t to the lered it even with the Recommendation to _ during the pleasure of the iry of £ll9 12s, being the amount paid ant building surveyor Iteco w mmendation to appropriate, out of the surplus income of this year, a sum not exceeding £2,000, to be expended in eat Derby-road, the same being for the 'e inhabitants, and improvement of the improvlng the public benefit 0f t borough.. Recommendation to accept th Mullen to erect new bridewell and pr tender of Mr. J H specification, for the sum of £5,733 4s 11d. Report of the surveyor as to the practicability of Illumi nating the clock of the Town Hall. In reference to the latter subject, the surveyor reported that, by the substitution of iron cylinders for the present wooden framing,. the lighting of the clock would be prac ticable; that the cost of the necessary alterations for the four dials would amount to about £2lO, and that the cost of efficiently lighting it would be about £lB each dial, or about £72 for the whole Mr. Stewa of Mr. Andes ab3ve. in th 1 Mr. first instance that the salaries Ellis be increased as specified Mr. Mime seconded the motion Mr. Kitchen : Before the confirtnation of that motion. I wish to ask whether the clerks to the magistrates and their clerks are permitted to carry on any private business of their own ? I ask the question because it so happens that since our last debate upon the increase of Mr. Garnett's salary, I have seen that he advertises himself as the agent of a Life Insurance Compa: 'Fleet, hear.) I think that if gentlemen are nermitte ' - husiness, it to carry on private is not right that - the council should be called upon to appropriate an additional amount of salary to their clerks in assisting them to discharge the business for which the council' pays them. (Hear, bear.) I think we should understand beforehand whether they are permitted to carry on private business or otherwise. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Stewart : I am not aware of any regulation in that. respect, but I have seen the announcement Mr. Kitchen alludes to. I - apprehend it is a matter of a very trifling nature, a life insurance agency, but I am not aware of any rule upOn the subject. At the same time, Ido not thing: the question effects the motion as to the salaries of Mr. Ellis and Mr. Anderton. Mr. Kitchen : I think it does sir, if we increase the salaries of Mr. Garnett's clerks I think it does. Mr. Stewart: This I do know, that Mr. Garnett's attendance to the duties of his office is most indefatigable indeed he is there very early in the morning and late in the evening —much longer hours than any other clerk of the magistrates. Mr. JAL Jeffery : I am reminded of a piece of informs tion given to me, yesterday, of the same character as that mentioned by 111 r: Kitchen —that Mr. Garnett is also Secretary of the Demerara Railway Company Now, the chairman of the finance committee has stated that he does not see what such a fact has to do with the advance of the - -;es of the two clerks which we are now asked - to ad . It may be quite true that Mr. Garnett does not participate in any advance of salary made to his subordi nates; but, inasmuch as the question is before the council, I take it that this is the proper time to ask any question appertaining-to the duties of the magistrates' clerks, and the mode in which those duties are discharged. If Mr. Garnett receives £7OO a year for services rendered to the Magistrates, and his salary has been augmented to that amount from £5OO, in consequence of the laborious duties which devolved upon him, it would seem that if those duties were so very laborious as to call for such an increase, Mr. Garnett could hardly undertake two other offices of a private character, and fur which be necessarily receives emoluments. (Hear, bear.) Further, I understand—and lead the information been mentioned to me in time, I should have called attention to the fact at the meeting of magistrates on Monday—that the magistrates clerks are precluded from doing any other business, and are expected to devote the whole of their attention and time to the duties of their ; and certainly any man receiving £7OO or even £5OO a -year, may with goo right be expected to devote the whole of his thoughts as well as of his time to the ditties. (Hear, hear.) I do say, therefore, if Mr. Garnett is dis charging duties otherwise than those appertaining to the office of magistrates' clerk, he is violating the arrange ment entered into with the magistrates when he accepted the office ; and I hope, therefore, the chairman of the finance committee will be prepared to give us an answer to the question, or will say that the finance committee will make the necessary enquiries. Mr. Alderman Holme was surprised that Mr. Jeffery did not ask the question at the meeting -of magistrates. Mr. Jeffery : I stated that I had no information then. Mr. Holme said, if the question had been asked then it could not have been answered at once when Mr. Garnett was on the spot. He was not aware that there was any order either permitting or forbidding the practice referred to. If Mr. Garnett was agent of . an insurance company, anything he could do in the evenings at his own house, be did not think it was in the power of the council to prohibit him from doing. (Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Holme) did not, however, know anything upon the subject. Mr. Earle, who was a much older magistrate, might perhaps be able to give some information upon the subject. Mr. Earle : No. Ido not know anything about it. Mr. Holme said they could easily get the information. Mr. Shell said, the principle of permitting an officer in the employment of the corporation to engage his time in any other avocations was essentially bad. (Hear, hear.) He was very much surprised to hear the vice-chairman of the finance committee saying that the council had nothing to do with what any officer did at night. Every man must know that if he worked at night, he could not work in the day. Whatever the council paid their officers ought to be sufficient for them, and they ought not to be allowed to enter into any other engagements. (Hear, hear.) During the time he had been in the corporation he had seen many evil consequences arise from allowing such arrangements. It was an injustice to the men themselves—it led them into scrapes and difficulties which often brought them into very serious injury at last. (Hear, hear.) If they were kept steadily to their duties, and not allowed to enter into other engagements, the duties would be better done, and the officers themselves would be more contented and more efficient. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Alderman Cooper was not aware of any charge against the two gentlemen whose salaries were now pro posed to be raised; and he did not see, therefore, what the present discussion had to do with the question. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Anderson believed a similar question came before the council upon a previous occasion; and he thought it was then understood that if the clerks could undertake anything which did not interfere with the duties of their office, they should be allowed to do so. lie thought it was rather invidious that the names of two gentlemen- should now be brought forward, when, if he were not misinformed, there were other gentlemen who did other duties not connected with their office. (Hear, hear.) principle he had laid do wn with regard to t ieethq Mr Stewart quite agre ed with Mr. Sheil in t i l e i h el. there was any such resolution with regard p to him, he was quite at a loss to_ to h answerte i s e t i g o e n ne put t m .a w k a g e i e s t a r r a e t , e i s l s o w e I e e v r k e r s as that referred to or not. He would resided in that countr th a t enqt , „iry should be m ade. As to the Demerara railway, he believed Mr. Garnett's father and Mr. Garnett mi g ht possibly perform some little b , usiy ness or agency in Liverpool for that company. Mr. Stewart concluded by moving that the increase of salary as recom mended to Mr. Anderton and Mr. Ellis be confirmed. The motion then passed without a division. Mr. Stewart moved that the second recommendation, for the appointment of Mr. Hunter, as assistant building ahmiguheelstllcleaismse, and su rveyor, be adopted. lie remarked that the finance comm ittee were unaatimous in the rec ommen d at i on of Mr. Hunter, reer,aosthh,rs, testimonials was nded e by re of mr. the. s were carried. big, Stewart then moved the Phi_ rd resolution, re com w- tr.nding the appropriatio n , ou t of the surplus income of this year, the sum of £2,000 in the improvement of the West Derby-road. He said, the matt er had been several times before the council A ireviously upon the motion orthe deputation health committee. u e t e a m tio m n it o t f e e th a e n h d ea tb lt ey hc a o gr mm ee i d tte to e had waited on th e finan e c recommend the app ropr i a ti on o f thi s 'sum for the object state& Mr. Samuel Holum seconded the motion. Mr. Mitt said he never supported a motion of the finance that the Mayor, the Town.elerk, interview With the new S rntested subjec 1. of th had forwarded the measu antes that they had N of the maintenance of prisoners The confirmation of the proo nuer Holme Nit. lt7ley g; meetly three c th9.t the clock of the lc( f the sides. Mr. Samuel Hol motion when it was brought forward, fls he consi would b, daii„ er alteration' SUff, The prnceed lighting, fire licensing, and gs vrepara and reports of the watch, ;ointment of Pro fire- police rate for the alf-penny in the pound. ti►e yzar 1 .-60 the liOitinfr rat )Iu same year, not CN Proeeedin watch rate for the nnmenda- _„5 preparatory to laying a same year. The proceedings also containerla tion-to appoint superintendent Quick to the detective office department, in- the place of the late John Sullivan, de ceased ; and' al - so- a letter from Messrs. Firings Brothers 'relative to the burning of the Isaac Wright, and'enelosincr.£lo £5 of which, Mr. Superinten bey: eipressed a wish, should he 4... cant Hewitt, for his most valhable services ,:asion of the late disastrous fire, and:the remainder .„; distribUted amongst the men under his charge, according to their &sees. Mr. Clint, as chairman, of the committee, rose to move the confirmation of the proeeelings, butt, befOre doing so, he begged soeciallv to move the_ appointment, of Mr. J. Whitby and Mr. JThentou as auditors. marded tO on the Mr. Clint next moved the adoption of the- proceedings, preparatory to layihg a fire rate, not to 'exceed one half- penny in the pound This was !also co 1 as was also a the levying a v Mr. 41a-dstone r step for thiS year,. the rates will be paid out of the p( instead of by the fundsof this uirporation Mr. Clint : It was the same last v( to know that, ople's pockets, hear, h md I now beg leave to move the confirmation of the whole of the proceedings of the committee. Mr. Houghton seconded the motion. Mr. Steains said,'it might appear strange that he, as a member of the watch committee, should rise and ask the chairman of that committee a question. But he must Weal as an excuse absence from town., He said he was sorry, in omamon with every ratepayer of the town, and had read with u'ifeigned regret,. the pro ceeding::: that took place the other day before the magis trates, as reported in the public papers- (Hear, hear.) The remarks of Mr. Mansfield, in reference to the police, he did. not hesitate to say, were unjust, unfounded, and perfectly unjustifiable. (Hear, hear.) He had reason to believe, from what he had heard from several magistrates who were present, that the report of Mr. Mansfield's speeches, as given in the newspapers, _were substantially correct The Mayor : T. hardly think you are in order in referring to what has taken place in another place. Mr. Steains : Tlien I will ask the chairman of the com mittee, whether or not any notice have been taken of the remarks of Mr. Mansfle 7 d, as they appeared in the papers, as to his charges against the police force. Mr. Gladstone : At the same time, let : me ask the town clerk whether there . is any misconception as to the power of ennsi not on /h I know the records of the proceedings, as are they passed. by the committee, are the business before the council; but in bvp:one times, anything which occurred of public interest within the period of ten months, were considered as matters for debate of the following council meeting. An important matter had taken place, and I wish to know whether it, not being upon the proceedings, could be heard and discussed at this meeting ? The Town-clerk replied, that beyond what was on the proceedings of the committee, no other matter for discus sion could be introduced, although it was perfectly in order for any .. gentleman to ask questions --- The Mayor : I conceive that Mr. Steans was. out of order. Mr. John Aikin said he claimed the right to ask a ques— tion. There had been certain parties taken before the grand jury who had not been summoned before the magistrates. This he apprehended was not right—thus to take persons by surprise, without giving them notice, and take, them before a jury, when an indictment had been preferred against them. (Order, order.) He would say it was a great act of injustice (order), and had received ra great check by the •• • • r the supp. bill of Lord CaMpbell 1,,, r •cssion of vexatious indictments, which had been supported by the Attorney- General. The Mayor : You are making a speech, not asking a question. (Laughter.) Mr. J. Aikin said, then he would ask the question, as it was a most important motion—for he had made enquiries of the watch committee, of the town-clerk, and others, but could get no information—by whom were the two policemen who were set forward as the prosecutors in the Lime -street cases employed, and by whose authority were - they acting? (Hear, hear.) Were they acting on the authorityof the watch committee? If not, on whose authority? Was it on the authority of the chief constable. (Order, order.) What I want to know, therefore, if the two men are, not acting on the authority of the watch committee, are they bound to appear. If they are not acting on that authority, by whom are the prosecutions made, is it by the. police themselves, or is it from mere external influence acting upon them. I beg to ask by whose authority are those prosecutions made. The Town-clerk said, in reference to the prosecutions, it was his duty to conduct all the prosecutions, where the magistrates committed. There are, however, some cases which are referred to the finance committee ; but with reference to the late indictments in Lime-street, I do not. know, but as Mr. Walters is present, I will inquire of him, as the prosecuting attorney. Mr. Stitt had no hesitation in sa y ing that, if private parties found that the decisions of benches of magistrates were at variance, and did not give them satisfaction, they had a right, if they pleased , to take their complaints before a grand jury, for by an indictment was the only way they could proceed. That course had been taken, and he would say they had a right to do so if they pleased. - The Town-clerk : These cases were Mr. Aikin : The.two policemen were put forward as the prosecutors. The Town-clerk : I think not. • lkCellilnatnslaindo, htice o a f d t b h e e en re as4-e r d ksan dwhetherreports that ha& pe the committee had ap 1‘ taken in the newspapers relative to _ the recent meeting. Forthessuaatl weeklyisfactio meeting of the committee, h e ld on then of the council,he begged to say that, at the usual previous day, the question was discussed. They were all aware that every member of the committee was most. anxious as to the efficiency of the police force ; which had been complimented by . the Government Inspector; and that everything. may be fairly brought before them; the farther consideration of the subject was adjourned until the meeting next week, when it would be fully inquired into. The Town-clerk said that he ha * d made the inquiry as to the late .prosccutions, and he found that the indictments had not been laid by him at all, but by some private parties who had served subpcena.s on the p o licemen, therefore they were compelled t o attend before the grand jury, and several other parties, including Mr. Radley and others. Mr. Aikiu But the police were put forward as the prosecutors. Mr. C. Turner wished to know who would have to pay the expenses of these prosecutions. The Town-clerk The parties who preferred the: indictments. Mr. Hodson wished to know by whose authority the informations were laid before the magistrates The Town-clerk : They have instructions. Mr. Hodson : Should not Major Greig ,y the infor mations ? Mr Clint : The police have their boks with instructiontr given . to them, and they act on those instructions. They act on the hve-laws. The subject then dropped, and the proceedings of the committee were duly confrrmed. nimaran commiTTEE. The proceedings, resolutions, and reports of the health committee were read. and dwing passed by the council, reccnome- Mr. Dover said , before moving the recommendation, he would wish to he ar the bye-lair read relative to the sanitary hinelisoeoidveinleiewnti.sheTdhties mores being done the following " That Mr. John Jones be appointed ..-:- Lt suveyor in Itt; {or s 1101 of the , ~opted Of the t sfr c leilc,J„' 40 0 " 2 TV tie" / or ce ll ire &I Li • tic :•1 5 1 11 40 , t _w,„101 0a a l of ft fins iblj ,t b e tO n „,5 DO ° al A A .