Northern Times. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-07-22 00:00:00

TELEGRAPHIC NEWS. By British and Irish Magnetic Telegraph. THE NEXT NEWS FROM INDIA. The probability of the authorities in India having 'despatched a special steamer does not appear so great as it did a few days ago. The telegraphic despatches by the ordinarny mail may now be expected within the next five days; and if, on this occasion, the admiral at Malta should send on an extra steamer to the telegraph station in the Island of Sardinia, the government 'ay, by Friday next, be informed of the events Which have occurred at Delhi between the Bth and and 22nd of June. The last official despatches states that the army before Delhi was ready to commence the siege on the Bth of June. FRANCE. PARIS, TUESDAY NIGHT. The Three Per Cent Rentes have declined per cent, and closed at 67 40. The expulsion of sixty-eight Frenchmen, most of them defeated in trade, from Sebastopol, is attributed to misconstruction on the part of the local authorities, of the instructions of the Russian government, but explanations will be demanded of the cabinet of St. Petersburgh. A Government journal announces that the Em peror of Japan is about to send the Governor of Simoda on a mission to Europe. The Emperor is willing to enter into commercial treaties with European powers. THE EMPEROR OF AUSTRIA'S VISIT TO HUNGARY. The Emperor of -Austria will resume his visit to Hungary on the 14th of August, and will be accom panied by the Empress and their surviving child. On the 27th the Emperor will be present at the opening of the Railway from Trieste. The Emperor of Russia is expected to arrive at Berlin to-day. BANKRUPTS. By British ani Irish Magnetic Telegraph. Charles Philip Burnett, Lincoln, tailor. Alfred Hedgerow, Islington, hosier. Thomas Fleming, Liverpool, merchant. James Jordan (younger), Camden-hill, Kensington, builder. Loran De Wolf Cochrane, late of Threadneedle-s+reet, shipowner. Abraham Low, Lower Homerton, cattle salesman. Charles Baker, Southampton, timber merchant. Henry Tristram, Liverpool, broker. Richard Derbyshire, Liverpool, proviqion merchant. Richard Bowstick, Halme, Manchester, oil-cloth manufacturer. Edward Cole Everitt, East Rudhsm, plumber. Robert Forster, Norwich, tinman. Thomas Marshall, Hartlepool, shoemaker. N DTTINGHAM RACES.. Blitish and Irish Magnetic Telegraph. TRIAL STAKES. —Honeyetick, 1 ; Polly Johnston, 2; Ellerdale, (filly), 3-5 ran. SHERWOOD HANDICAP. Prince of Orange, 1 ; COUT tenay, 2-4 ran. CASTLE HANDICAP. —Oltenitza, 1 ; Miss Nightingale, 2 ; De Ghinkel, 3-7 ran. No NEWHAM HANDICAP. - Bt)rderer, 1 ; Hamlet, 2- 7 ran. OXFORD ELEC noN.—YESTERDiY By British and Irish Magnetic Telegraph. CLOSE OF THE POLL. Cardwell Thackeray . 1,102 . 1,023 Majority for Cardwell MALDON ELECTION COMMITTEE. Ty British and Irish Magnetic Telegraph The committee to-day declared Mr. Western duly elected ; and Mr. Braraley-Moore was also declared duly elected, the petition against him being frivolous and vexa tious. CC THE WAR WITH INDIA. The Horse Guards have decided that no women or children be allowed to embark with the detachments pro ceeding to India till the disturbances are settled. The Daily News invites the war office to set about the augmentation of the army at home without a day's delay. The Times remarks that, should the emergency require it, England could soon double her army and navy. An addition of £lO a-year to the pay of the soldier or sailor, or of equivalent advantages, would raise from the people any number we could possibly want, at an expense incon siderable compared with the usual expenditure of our wars. NEW PATENT FAMILY FIRE ESCIPE.—With the sanction of the Mayor.—A public trial will take place to-morrow, in Exchange•street West, at twelve o'clock, under the management of Mr. Superintendent Hewitt and part of his fire brigade, when the public may witness its efficiency in cases of fire, in the absence of any other assistance. Orders received by Messrs. Mawdsley & Son, Castle-street, or William Odell, Bold-street, sole agent for The Sardinian government has issued a royal ordonnance, permitting, from January let, 1858, the free importation of salt into the island of Sardinia ; it also permits, from August Ist, 1857, the inhabitants to collect, without any Payment, such salt as may be formed naturally in the island. All exportation of salt is interdicted. MIND YOUR GIOGRIPIIY.—The new editor of a weekly paper has favoured his readers with an article sneering at the ,Ding of Prussia, in which he refers to his Ma j est y at B erlin t doing or thinking so and so on the banks of the heWe had always thought that Berlin was on the tic", and we are glad that the wri ter did not know it, as D "ld not have failed to make a stup id p un on t he name. 4ulgPra " RIFLES FJ R TILE TaooP PROCEED I N G TO IND/ A " ---- Orders have been received a t Chatham garrison from t he Duke of Cambridge, Commander-in - ch ief, direct ing that th e whole of t h e reinforcements proceeding to India are t o b e equ i ppe d w ith th e Enfield rifle pre viousl y to their embarkation. During the past year upwards of 6,000 officers and men have gone through a regular course 1 14 instructio n a t Ch a tham in the use of the Enfie ld rifle, in the p ract i ce o f w hi c h the whole of the troops order ed for embarkation are perfectly familiar. The Duke of Cambridge has also decided that for the present no women or children will be permitted to embark with the rein forcements proceeding to India ; but t h a t a s soo n as the disturbances are over, the wives of soldiers will be sent out for the purpose of joining their husbands , the autho rities at the W ar -office allowing each woman sixpence per day, and forwarding them to their respective homes at the Public expense. THE NORTHERN TIMES.-- LIVERPOOL, WEDNES DAY, JULY 22, 1857. TESTIMONIAL TO CAPTAIN LEITCH. At a meeting of the cabin passengers of the screw steamer City of Baltimore, from New York to Liverpool, July 9th, 1857, held on board on Monday, the 20th instant, Captain Thomas T. Ferris in the chair, Dr. Robert Fletc ;her in the vice chair, the following resolutions were adopted :—Proposed by the Hon. E. T. Dickey, Pennsyl vania, seconded by James Tarance, Esq., Montreal, and carried unanimously : That we cannot separate without expressing our high sense of the ability and efficiency of the Captain, officers, and crew of this noble ship, in which we have made so speedy and agreeable a passage across the Atlantic ; and that we have uniformly ex perienced on the part of Captain Leitch and his officers not only courteous and gentlemanly treatment but a constant desire to deprive the voyage of all tedium, and make it in every way agreeable to the passengers. — Proposed by J. Hollins Rowley, Esq., Maryland, seconded by Alexander M. Sullivan, Esq., Dublin, and carried unanimously : That. a hearty vote of thanks be, and is hereby passed to Captain Leitch and his officers ; and that Captain Ferris, Dr. Fletcher, Robert Harlan, E-q., and John Tribble, Esq., be, and are hereby appointed a deputation to wait upon Captain Leitch and convey to him those resolutions.—Proposed by F. X. Leray, Mis sissippi, seconded by M. Henreich Funcke, Ham burgh, and carried unanimously : That the prompt and assiduous attention on the part of all the employees is the cabin department convinces us that the Liverpool and Philadelphia Steam-ship Company have left nothing incom plete in their organisation for the comfort and convenience of the passengers by their packets. Proposed by G. Lyons, Esq., seconded by E. Allen, E.q , New Orleans, and carried unanimously : That these resolutions be inserted in the Liverpool papers. Signed on behalf of the meeting, Thos. T. Ferris, chairman ; Robert Fletcher, vice-chairman ; John Tribble, secretary. ADMISSION OF THE JEWS INTO PARLIAMENT. DEPUTATION TO LORD PALMERSTON. Yesterday afternoon a very numerous deputation, com posed of members of the House of Commons favourable to the admission of Jews into parliament, waited upon Lord Palmerston at Cambridge House, Piccadilly, for the pur pose of formally making known to his lordship the result of the meeting held at the King's Arms on Thursday last. The deputation, which was headed by Mr. Horsman, the chairman of that meeting, numbered be tween fifty and sixty members. It will be remembered that the meeting decided in favour of supporting Lord John Russell's motion for leave to bring in a bill to amend the Ist and 2nd Vic , c. 108, so as to enable the oath of abjuration to be administered to members who wished it without the words " On the true faith of a Chris tian." The meeting also unanimously adopted a resolution declaring —" That the fact that in the late division in the House of Lords, all the members of the Cabinet did not support the Oaths Bill, is calculated to cause deep pain and disappointment to the liberal party." Reporters were in attendance at Lord Palmerston's from all the daily papers ; but t " by his lordship's express directions, the gentlemen of the press were excluded from the inter view." At the close of the interview, the members repaired to Palace-yard, and there deliberated upon the results of the visit to the premier. ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION OF TWO PERSONS. GUILDHALL, CITY OF LONDON.-YESTERDAY. George Cox, a man about forty-five years of age, de scribed as a commission agent, of No. 1, Harvey-street, Hoxton, was placed at the bar before Alderman Carter, charged with attempting to murder Caroline Cox, his wife, and a man named E3mund Forty, by stabbing them with a dagger, in a fit of jealousy. He was also charged with breaking a pane of plate glass, value £7 10s., in the shop of Alr.. Sillaerberg, of St. Martin's la-Grand. Edwin Evans said :—I live at Homerton. lam a traveller. The prisoner is a stranger to me. Athalf-past three o'clock yesterday afternoon, I was driving down by the Post-office in St. Martin's-le-Grand when I heard a cry of " Murder !" Two men ran across the middle of the road to my horse's head, and tumbled down, and the prisoner, who was one of them, stabbed the other in the shoulder with a knife. The prisoner then ran after a a woman, and knocked her dowa by running against her with great violence and, as she lay on the ground, he stabbed her with the same weapon. I saw his arm go up and down, but there was a crowd round them, so that I could not see if he stabbed her more than once. The prisoner was prevented from doing any further violence by the crowd ; and a policemen coming up soon after, he was taken into custody. Prisoner : Where was the woman when I struck her? Witness : On the ground, against a tobacconist's window, when you stabbed her. Alderman Carter : Where did you first see her ? Witness : She was running across the road with the man who was stabbed. They were running away from the prisoner. Th omas Bainbridge: About half-past three yesterday afternoon, I stepped out of our side door into St. Martin's-le- Grand, when I saw two men struggling, and immediately after I saw one of them run away and call " Murder." He ran towards me, and then I saw that he was stabbed on the left shoulder. I saw the same man that stabbed the other run after the woman. She ran away from him into the middle of the street. The prisoner caught a slight hold of her, but she got away and ran to the cigar shop, when the prisoner made two or three stabs at her with a white-handle dagger. He was immediately surrounded and the dagger produced was taken from him, and the policeman took him into custody. The prisoner seemed in a very frenzied state of mind, and hardly appeared to know what he was doing. Edward Evans recalled : I saw a dagger in the prisoner's haul similar to that produced- John Smith said : I am an extra porter at the Queen's hotel, in St. Martin's-le-Grand, and I was standing at the corner of Angel-street yesterday afternoon about half. past three, when I saw a man run from the cor ner into the middle of the road, and he began hallooing out. Immediately after the prisoner followed him. I though they were going to fight, and when I saw the pri soner raise his arm, I saw he had a knife or something of that sort in his hand. The man struggled a little, and directly after the prisoner ran after a woman who was in sight. She stopped at the corner of a court higher up, and, as she stopped, the prisoner made a blow at her with the dagger produced. She got away from him, and got as far as Bilberberg's, the tobacconist, by which time I followed him with several others, when I saw him strike the woman again with the same dagger. She was bleeding at the mouth, and called out, "He has killed me ! he has killed me !" The man who was stabbed in the arm was among The crowd, when the prisoner aimed a blow at him with the dagger, and struck him on the arm. He raised his arm again to strike, when some one in the crowd caught his arm, and took the dagqer from him. I went to the station with the prisoner. Prisoner: Whom did you see me strike first? Witness : You went to strike the man first in the middle of the road. Prisoner: Did you not say just now that I struck him first? Witness : You went into the road to try and strike him. Prisoner : Did you not say I struck, him with the dagger ? 'Witness : No ; I said you had your hand up with the dagger in it when the man parried the blow. John Andrews, 107, said, about half-past three o'clock, I gas coming through the entrance-hall of the G en eral Post Office, when 1 heard a cry of " Police !" I ran into Sr. Martin's-le-grand, where I saw several persons trying to secure the prisoner. I laid hold of his right arm and the collar of his coat, and a gentleman was holding up his left arm with the dagger still in his hand. The gentleman wrenched the dagger from his hand, and I took the prisoner to the station. The wounded persons were taken to the hospital. I searched the prisoner and found on him a knife and other articles. I received the dagger from the gentleman who took it from the prisoner, and I found the sheath upon him. Prisoner : Did you observe if the gentleman had any trouble in getting the dagger from me ? Witness : Not a very great deal of trouble. Alderman Carter : Have you seen the wounded parties this morning? Witness : Not this morning, sir ; but I have obtained a medical certificate of the surgeon. Alderman Carter :It appears these parties will not be in a condition to leave the hospital for several days, and I shall therefore remand the prisoner until Saturday. The prisoner, who appeared to be suffering severely, was then removed, IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (By British and Irish Magnetic Telegraph.) HOUSE OF LORDS.-TUESDAY. he House met at five o'clock. NEW sOITTH WALES. The Dnke of NEWCASTLE, in presenting a petition from New South Weles inquired of the Government whether it was intended to s parate a portion of the colonial territory from the colony; and if so, w,lat would bs the south boundary. Earl GRANEILLE was understood to reply that Mffetown Bay would be separated from the east of the colony, asd that the south boundary would be between the 28th and 29th decrees of latitude, MISCELLANEOUS BILLS. The British and Irish Grand Junction Railway Bill, and the Newry and Enniskillel Railway Bill, were read a second time. The Midland Great Western Eallway of Ireland (Sligo Extension), and Streumstown end Care Junctions Bills were read a thLd time and passed. The Crowded Dwellings Prevention Bill, the Turnpike Trusts Abo7it'e I Bil , , and the Constabulary Force (Ireland) Bill were read a taird t me and passed. The Prisoners' Removal Sill, sad the Enclosure Acts Amendment Bill went throuch committee. The Report of Amendments to the Registration of Long Leases ( 'cothind) Bi I was brought np aed received. Lord St. LEONARDS drew attentiou to the measures that have been Proposed for facili acing the transfer of land, a .d laid upon the table a bill for simplifying titles to land. Alter a brief discussion the bill was read a first. time. ADMISSION OF JEWS INTO PARLIAMENT. Lori CAMPBELL ro C to put a question to the Lord Chancellor respe,.ting the cause (in error) Salomons v. Miler, row pending in that lions; and drew att ntion to the present state of the que tion, whether Jews, accord ng to the existing state of the law, were entitled to sit in Parliament. The noble lord entered into a history of th - cass. and inquired of the Lori Chancellor when they might expect the decision of the court. He had hoped that public opinion would have decided toe q -testi° a of the acmission of J 'we to Parliament this session, bat the bill had been rejected, and it had now been proposed that . the object should be accomplished by a resolution of the House of Commo as. He deprecated that course being taken, which. would be ana!ogou 3 to the French coup &eta!, and stated his opinion that Jews cou'd only be admitted to sic hi Parliament by an act of Parlia , meet. Tile LORD CHANCELLOR said the appeal referred to, stood over to the presn'it ye r br cotse.nt of both parties. Lord BROUGHAM expressed his (Tilden that an attempt to admit the Jews to P..rliament by a iesolution, would be productive of great evils. After a few words from T ord Campbell, the sntject dropped. Tae HoJse a:ljonrned at eight o'clock. ROUSE OF COMMONS-TUESDAY. Thz; SPEAKER took tho chair at twelve o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Lo-ds' amendments to the following bills : —Keith and D off town Railway (No. 2, IL 1 and tha Winchester Corporation Bill, were considered and agreed to HUNTINGDON ELECTION PETITION. The members appointed to try the merits of the petition complain ing of the return for the county of Hundngclon wire called to the table to be sworn, but Mr. Locke, the member for Honiton, did not answer to his name. The Sra A HER then informed the house that be had received a letter from Mr Wagstaff, the solicitor for Mr. Locke, stating that Mr. °eke had gone to Aix-la-Chapelle in id-health, under the supposi tiorithat he would not be required to serve on any committee during the present sem' o r. n the m-tion of Mr. Bass, Mr. WAGSTAFF was cello 1 'o the bar, ard, having been sworn stated that the facts contained in the letter were true. Mr. WALPOLE regretted that the House should be put a second time to inconvenie ca on this rubject. He believed that there was sufficient reason why the House should not in ist on the attendance of Mr. Locke. At the some time he must say that it was to be regretted Mr. Locke had r ot written previous to his leaving London to the Chairman A the General Committee of Elections. Colonel W. PATTEN said he know that Mr. Locke left London under th , supposition thxt all the elution committe s were struck, and that his cervices wou'd not be required ; he therefore moved that, in the opinion of the House, there was sufficient reason to excuse Mr. Locke fro„ attendance oa the committee. The motion was agreed to. LEawICH-ON-TWEED ELECTION PETIT ON. The SPE A KEE informed the Hou.se that he had received information ram the parties to this petition, st oting that It was not their inten tion to proceed ith the petit'ons complaining of the returns of Mr. Stapleton and Mr. C. illejoribanks for the town of Berwi it-upon- T d RANKING RILL. Mr. veva moved that the House resolve itself into committee on th s subject. Mr. HE t,rLAM appealed to th right hon. gent:eatan not to proceed with so important a bill in a morning sitting, when it was evident from the state of the House, there being scarcely forty members pre sent, that it could not he properly discussed. Mr. HADFIELD hoped the bill would not be passed during the pre sent session. He had been strongly urged to make this appeal to the right hon. gentleman. Mr. Kinglake, Mr. H. B. Sheridan, and other members. joined in a similar appeal. Mr. Lows said he introduced the bill in ti ee to allow ample con sideration of its provisions. The bill was a very important one, and if he were to postpone it now it would be tantamount to its abandon ment ducting the prese t session. The joint stock banks and the Sco.ch brinks bad commueicated with him on the subject, and the amended bill carried out their suggestions, without, however, altering the prieciple 0' the measure. He believed the. bill was very much wanted. Its object was to alter the present system of winding-up banks which expe ience had shown to be in a very defective state. Ile would, therefore, not take upon himself the responsibility of poit poning the bill. Mr. GLYN adm tted that the right hon. gentleman introduced many improvements in the bill. Bat et 11 there remained the 14th clause, which permitted arty seven persons to establ sh a bank with a few hundred pounds. (Hear,. hoar.) He was bound to say, howeqer, that was the only objection remaining of the bill. He thought the private bankers were very hardly treated. If they .wished to strengthen their establishments they could not do so at present, because the number of partners could not exceed six. He thougilt tS at if they were allowed to Weed their partnerships to ten or twelve, it would be a great improvement. Ha hoped, therefore, his right hon. friend would sanction an altertvion of the 11th clause in that respect. Thu house then went into committee. HEADL/011 moved an amendment to provide for the establish ment of Joint Stock flanks upon the principle of Limited Ltabili'y Under this system, a company wand have t a depend upon Its own exertion, and the practice of working upon fictitious credit—as was the cane with the Royal British Bank—could not occur. Mr. BERNARD, an exten,iee shareholder in the London and County Joint Stock Bank, gave his support to the amendment, and observed that the failure of unlimited Rabin y had been illustrated in the case of the Royal British B ink. Mr. Archibald HASTIE depr. catecl the principle of limited libility, which allowed a Company to specula's to the extent of .€ 0,000 or £3 , 1,000 w.th a risk of but £lo,oo3—such a system would tend rather to increase th in diminish -peculation, end would prove m st dis astrous to the commerce of the country. Mr. GLYN did not th nk the proper time had been chosen for introducing the question to the consideration of the House, and recommended the hon. member for Newcastle to leave the mat. er in the hands of the Government, to be considered by them during the recess, witn a view to bring in a bid next session to amend the existing law. Mr. Slim eats suggested that the liability of hareholders should be limited to three times the amount of the holding. Mr. Basse6E opposed the am,ndinent, on the ground that in pro portion to the responsibility 'of shareholders, would be the prudence displayed in the management of banks. Mr. Bemuses and Mr. RIDLEY opposed the amendment. Sir JAMES GRAHAM, considering the state of the House and the • period of the session, recommended that the hon member for New castle should not, by dividing, pledge the Government and hon. members to a marticulated course upon thls subject. air. LowE also appealed to the lesn. member to withdraw his amendment. Mr. HEADLAM consented not to divide the House, and the amend ment was negatived. The several clauses were agreed to, and the bill was reported with out amendment. - • -- BILLS PASSED. The Loan Societies Bill, The Commons Enclosure Bill, The Boundsries of Land (Ireland) Bill, The Public Work, (Ireland) 8.11, The 1-and and Assessed Taxes, &c. (Scotland) Acts Anaendinen Biil, and The Public Health (Alderahott) Bill, were severally read a thid time and passed. The Bankruptcy and Insolvency (Ireland) Bill was considered as amended, and some new causes and amendments having been in serted, was ordered for a third reading. MLLDON ELECTION. Sir Jona TROLLOPE brought up the report of the committee upon the Malden election r etition, which stated that the sitting members were duly elected, and that the petition against J. B. Moore, Esq., was frivolous and vexa iota , . The sitting was then suspended. LISBURN ELECTIWY PETITION. The SPEAKER annonneed the abandonment of the petition com plaining of the return for the borough of Lisburn. THE MERSEY CONSERVANCY Mil lar. ToLtESIACHE asked Sir James Graham whether an expression made use of by him, en bringln , up the report oft he Mersey Cans servancy Pill, was to be understoid as implying at the passing of eecond reading' of the bill pledged the house to the principle Sir G. Glace objected to the question, and it was not replied to INTO . T OE VALIDITY OP CERTAIN OATHS.—LDMISSION OF JEWS PARLIAMENT. Lord JOAN RUSSELL Ventmo er leave to.briagiu a bill to amend the act 1 and 2 Via. Cap. 105—itled an act for removing doubts as to the validity of certain oaths. The noble lord alluded to the various proceedings in ref n.ence to the admission of Jews into Parliament, and contended that though the Upper House had refused to, act in accordance with the opinion of a majority of 114 in that House, it was ni eesßary tor the maintenance of religious libmty, and for the defence of their privileges , that t he y shouldmot be baffled. (Cheers.) not wish to place that House in collision with the House of Lords, and he therefcre proposed to effect the object that he had in view rather by a bill than by resolution, lie proposed merely to explain an act of Parliament authorising its ealoosion, to the oaths taken by members of the house of Commons, and in that he was but asking Parliament to perform one of its legitimate functions. The words "On the true faith of a Christian " were introduced directly after the gunpowder plot, and the object Was, not to secure that the person swearing profested Christianity, but to secure in the mot binding farm allesionce to the sovereign. But Roman Catholics had ceased t i tke that oath ; Quakers NN em exempted from it; and he now asked for the. Jews, that they too mallet be allowed to sub scribe to an oath binding upon their consciences. This question mast be settled by bill, or by resolution, but he hoped that his bill would be adopted, that they might not be compelled to act separately from the House of Lords. Mr. WALPOIE objected to a subject being twice brought forward in the same session, and recommended the House not to take a step that would draw the House into collision with the House of Lords. lle also object -d to the bill on the ground that there were. important measures before the House to be settled, and that the. session was coming to a close • bat he would rather see f i ty Jews admitted to Parliament than 'the Constitution being broken through by the separate action of the House of Commons. air. Dietwiter thought the House had acted unwis.ely an refusing to administer oaths binding npou their conscience: to Boron Rothschild and Mr. Salaroons when they at first claimed their seats, but he now suggestd that they shoula repair their error without allowing the Lords ei interfere in a case relating axe' naively to their privileges. Mr. Pima emtanded that there was no popular a : , Ration to justify the re-introduction of this question at the end of a long session. Mr. GILPIN thought the time had come when the decision of a large rn , j ority of the Commons should cease to be disregarded by tha Lords; hut he recommended separate actions in regard to the ealtnlssion of Jews only as a last resource. Mr. ITLWDEGATE advocated, upon religious grounds, the exclusion of Jews from Parliament, and characterised the measure under consi deration, as a bill to relieve Baron Rothschild from the pledge given by him at his election, that he would reign his seat if a bill for the removal of Jewish disabilities was rejected I Mr. Cox contended that the Horse hart power to decide what oaths ' should be I aken by its members, an i urged hen, members not to abandon +hat privilege through fear of a collision with the Lords. Mr. LIDDELL concurred in the opinion that the House`tould settle tba question by a resolution, but believing the time inappropriate to , try the queationould not vote upon the motion before the Honse. Mr. Axiareei asserted that the wurds ' Oa the true faith of a Christian" were part of the oath, and that it would therefore be ille gal for Baron Rot lschild to take hi, seat by a reNolation of that House to omit the words; it was necessary that they should proceed by an act of Parliament, and he believed that had the Government been in earnest, the House of Lords would not have rejected the Prime Minister's bill. Mr. PACKE offered some remarks. Lord PALMER TON said hs and his col'eagues were•as anxious as his noble friend to effect the object which the bill under consideration had in view. Till he saw more clear y what the provisions of the bib were, he could only assent to it introducti , at. Bet in the present state of public business, he did not know that he con d consent to give it precedence over all other questions, till it should pass to the other House. Mr. GLADSTONE had voted for many years for the admission of Jews ts Parliament, but he did not think it would be advisable to a t in a manner contrary to the principles of the constitution to effect that object. He had suffinient confidence in the Peer. to believe that they wonld al way s give way to the oft-repeated and well-ascertair ed wishes of the Commons. The object of the Bill of his noble friend was to leave it to tie the discretion of Peril anent, to administer the oath to a Jew in a form binding upon his coascierce, and tie other bill having been to remote the existing religions tests, the constitutional obj cctinn to the intro duction of two measuiea on the same subject, in the same session, did not apply. Upon the whole, he thought the bill entitled to the favourable consideration of the House. Spin War rEstna objected to a question of such importance being IPft to be decided at differ nt times according to the humour of the hcuse. Mr. HILLYARD opeosed the bill, and Mr. BUSMAN supported it. Lord Jess RUSSELL replied. The house then divided. The numbers were : For the bi 11.... ........ Against it.. _154 jority... AGRICULTURAL STATISTICS. Mr. Cann> moved fo, leave t., bring in a bill to p•ovide fot the collection of apicultaral statistics in England and Wales. A brief conversation ensued, afte which Leave was given. Mr. J. A. SMITH obtained leave to bring in a bill for discharging claims of the New Zealand Company on the preceeds of sales o f waste lands in New Zealand. The +ssessments (Scotland) Bill went through Committee. The Valuation of Lands (Scotland) Act Amendment Bill also woot through Committee. On the motion f,r the third reading of the Indnsirial Schools Bill, Mr. COBS TT moved that it be read a third time that day three month.. 56 11,3 House then divided, the numbers 13 - Aug, For the motion ..... . •• •• • Against it ........ 21 Majority . . The bill was accordingly read a tlfrd time and passed. Tne Home aljourned shortly after one O'clock. ANNUAL MEETING OF THE BRITISH ARCH2EOLOGICAL SOCIETY. FROM OUR OWN REPORTER. The et nnuil Congress of the Archonlogin? Institute of Great Britain and Ireland commenced yesterday at Chester, the place which had been faxed upon by the Council as the place of meeting for the present year. The Town Hall, which had been placed ot the disposal of the Association, was the bui'dlng in which the Lusiness was opened. Amongst those present were the Lord Talbot de Malahide, President ; the Lord Bi hop of Oxford ; Sir Charles Anderson ; Edward Hawkins' Esq., F.R.S., of the Br tish Museum ; J. H. Barker, Esq,, F.S.A. ; J. H. Markland, Esq., D.C.L. ; C. Tucker, Esq., of Exeter; S. H . Parker, Esq. of Oxford; the Rev. il. H, Gunner, of Manchever ; and other members of the council and society; in addition there were also present several influential gentlemen from the locality, including the Loth Bishop of Chester; the Rev. Canon Slade; Mr. Councillor Picton ; the Mayor of Chester ; Sir Stephen elynne, Bart.: W. Waide,l, Esq. of Chester, Sec., Ste. There wore also present several ladies. The noble Pe ESIMNT having taken the chair, 'he Mayor of Chester, in his civic robes and gold chain of office, together with several mem bers of the coporation being present, The Tower CLERK advanced and read an address from. the Corpo ration, welcoming the members of the Association to Chester, and assuring them of the assistance of the Corporation in inspecting the various objects of interest in tee city. Lo d TALBOT, onhehalf of the institute, thanked the corporation for the kind manner in which they had come forward and welcomed them on their visit to that city. To them it was a source of great era' ificaeion when they found influential bodies, Bush as the Corpo ration of Chester rallying round their standard. Since the institute had been in existence it had been in many places of gre t interest, historically interesting, and interesting on many other grounds; but he venture to predict, from the acquaintance likely to go on with this city within the next few days, that no place at which it had ever yet met would afford the members of the institute gr ater gratifl ation than a visit to Chester and i's neighbourhood. They all knew what a prominent part Chester had played in the his torY of the country; they knew, indeo I, that it stood forward through out the whole of an history; they knew that it bad, for a great number of years, given a name to a royal prince ; and they also knew that at all times it had be n distinguished for its attachment and loyalty - to the throne, as welt as the liberty of the subject. (Cheers.) In con clusion, he begged to return the corporation the best thanks of the society for the honour they had done it. The Lord BISHOP of CHESTSH next came forwar 1 , and a id that having had his name coupled with the names of far more distinguished persons than himself, as patrons of the meeting at Chester, it had fallen to his lot, in their names, to bid his lordship and the members of the society welcome to this place. He begged to assure them that they participeted in all the sentments that were so well expressed in the adrims which the Corperation had just presented. It was great compliment they had paid to C nester in meeting there this year, and he was satisfied that all h7s fellow townsmen would appreciate it as such. If anything could add, any accidental circumstance could add, to the honour that was done them, it was in the circumstance he was about to name. Yesterday afternoon he received a letter from Lord Talbot (who was oat of Englan i when he wrote the letter), expressing his great regret that be was afraid it weal not be possible for hi m to reach London before last night. He only did arrive in London last night, and it was by the earliest train that he left London, in order to be present at the opening of the proceedings. He thought it was a very graceful act on the part of Lord Talbot to do his best to be present. (Hear, and cheers.) He believed that all tile inhabitants or Cheater —although erhaps they , might not know the most effectual way of doing it--wou'd do their best to make the business and the visit of the society as agreeable Si possible. There was no place in the country surpassed the City of C ;ester in historical Interest. From the tma of the Romans, to the mediaeval and middle ages, and to the period eh--ii liberty began to dawn, and when one scarcely knew how to distinguish between chivalry and lioerty—throughout all these periods Chester stood con saicuously prominent in the history of the country, and therefore no place could have been more appropriately selected for its place of meteing than Chester. (Hear, and cheers.) In the name of the patrons, he bade the society welcome. 'fhe Rev. Canon Saar's, on the part of the Dean and Chapter, had much pleasure in inviting the society to inspect he venerable cathe dral After dwelling upon the many objects of interest which the cathedral contained, he concluded by assuring the society that eery facility for an inspection would be given. Mr. H oKLIN, as the official representative of the Chester Archie ales gical and Historic Society, said it was his duty to bid the ass 'elation welcome to the ancient city of Chester; knowing some little of archmological pursuits, he felt certain that the sojourn of the associa tion among them would be the means of promoting active inquiry, enable forgotten generations to live again, and give the society the opportunity of gathering instruction for future ages. The Chester Archmdogical Society would be glad to give them any information they might possess, and afford them every assistanc in investigating. the historical remains of the city. The speaker, In an eloquent speech, en'arged on the deeply interesting historical associations of Chester Its h story dated back to the period , when history itself might be said to fall info fable, and was ass ociated with the Dams, the Normans, and all the pomp of chivalry. Lord TALBOT, in a short but appropriate address, acknowledged the kindness of the preceding speakers. The Lord BISHOP of (Aeolus next came forward, and said that as an old member of the institute, and on behalf of his brother members, he begged to return their thanks to the Lord Bishop of the Dioce-e, and also to Use Dean and Chapter, for the warm and cordial welcome • which they had given to the society. He wa equite, sure that every . member of the institute would join with him in the acknowledgment of their kindness. Indeed, they would not only be bad members of ' the Institute, but bad men if they did not very sincerely acknowledge such a welcome, because the peculiar interest that marked this society, and which marked, indeed, their common country, was the circum stance that, instead of building the present upon the past, and hiding the past as a foundation—instead of doing this, the very special characteristic of the .ociety and of our country had been, that whilst it had conserved the old, it had, more than any other country, invent2d the new ; that by the singular tact of her people shelled kept the old in a stet • of preservation, and yet had got ahead of any other piton in embodying the new. The cateedral wis a kind of thermometer showing the character and mind of the' notion, and ha did believe that the chapter did. wed in adding its welcome to that of his right reverend brother the bishop of the diocese, because. there was something more than idle curiosity in diving into the duet of antiquity, as this society was in the habit of doing. The great - , Cromer of this world had so ortiained the affairs of man that things old eN. aye did return in a perpetual cycle—the past coming back with the pro sent, gradually, but truly, in the kernel of 'Things, the same as it was before; and, therefore, when people did set them-elves to study the past—not to get a mere superficial knowledge, but to see it its- it lived. and more, and had its being ; to see it in all the circumstances; of its inward life—these people di I get a sort of prescience of the future in the part. (Hear, hear.) All things proved this. We knew, from history and research, that in almost all ages liberty and authority was apt to run into tyranny, and the most blessed efforts ever made for man rendered fruitless, if not watched and checked; and, there fore, he said that the man who did thoroughly understand the past was best able to guide and-direct the future. Danger was prevented, as the poet said, by "the man in whom old experience does attain." Now thepower of understanding the danger, depended uponinvestigating the old mischiefs—the ability toseparate what was good in the old from what wasted. A discerning eye would see that, though. there were the mischiefs, the old truths must have had some thing good to grow upon, are therefore, if by historical research into antiqatty, we could get hold ef the old truths and cut off the old errors which were in them, then we should be providing in the future a blessing to our race. (lieer., hear.) He therefore begged to thank the Lord Bishop of the diocese for welcoming the institute to Cheater, and it was in this spirit that on behalf of the institute, he accepted the kind welcome offered. (Cheers.) Mr. Markland and, Sir C. Anderson h tying briefly addressed the meeting, a vote of thanks to the society for paying a visit to Chester was Carried with acclamation. Lord TeLeor in appropriately acknowledging the compliment, re ferred to the practical labours and °elects of the institute, and said there was one subject in which the iustitute took a deep interest. He alluded to the question of treasure trove. According to the present law in this country, any article of worth which was found in tb e earth became the property of the Crown, and the consequence was, that in a great many instances the most valuable articles were destroy-d. They foweel their way into the crucible, instead of into the Brush Museum. (Hear, hear.) This was a great evil. dr-Denmark they had so altered the law as to, meet this very grievance. They had given to the person who found thins s articles the value of what he found, at the. same time reserving to the state the power of claiming it on paying its value. He was sure t' at such a change might be made in this country without violating therights of property, which he should be sorry to do. Under the present system no good was effected, nor any one benefited; but under an altered_ system such as he bad referred to, no one could complain. Ho had for some time been endeavouring to have the matter brought under the notice of Parlia ment. Nothing, however, had yet been done, but if some one did not undertake it, it was his intention to move for a select committee to inquire into the subject. (Heir, hear.) Ile tru•ted that all the Archreological Institutions in the country would come forward and collect facts to show the evil of the present state of things. An inquiry of this kind should not be lett to declamation, but there should be a collection of facts to speak for themselves. (Hear, hear.) His lordship concluded by a reference to the business before the congress and the papers to be read, and expressed his hope that they would have a successful meeting. The preliminary proceedings were then brought to a close, and the members proceeded to visit objects of interest in Cheater. In the evening, the members and their friends again assembled, when an interesting p aper was read on the tour of King Henry 111, banquet, o'clock. The afternoon will be devoted to visits of objects of interest, o i n. day, Cheshirethe variousand rdj o s i e n e i t n ito g hn e es o tu t awntu ti lui e a : nl . est in the Town-hall, at ten anti this will be followed by MERSEY CONSERVANCY BILL. HOUSE OF LORDS.-JULY 20. The order of the day for the Enond reading of this bill having 1. een ret, _ _ - • Z be Duke of NEWCASTLE presented petitions in its favour from the corp orations of Salford, Leeds, Huddersfield, Bradford, Clitheroe, and sera - al other public bodies. e Marquis of WEstimrstErt also presented petitions in reference to it ;from the city of Chester. The Earl of DERBY presented a petition against it signed by 13,00) of the inhabitants of Liverpool, comprising among their number 900 of the ,nrincipal merchants of that city. The petiticners alleged that wher I the management of the Liverpool Dock estates was at present vested it 1 a body consisting of 21 parsons, 12 of whom were the repro sentativt is LI the corporation, which was elected by the ratepayers generally and the other 12 by the dock ratepayers, the bill under the notice of the House proposed to alter the constitutional body and to f rm a nee v tract from -which the corporation was to be altogether excluded. The petit criers then proceeded to u-ge their objec ions to that propost3l, complaining that it would introduce into toe manage meat of the ,clock esta'e the principle of Government influence, and that it would in that and other respects operate as a great injustice, notwithstandlng that the bill contained no allegation of mtl-adminis tration or breach of trust upon the pa -t of the existing management. They also complained of the appropriation of the town dues without the aligh'est cotapensatioe for such appropriation being made. They then went on to state th-it a measure upon such a subject ought to 100 a public and not a private bill. For the present he would content himself with stating to their Lordships the allegations contained in the petition, reserving to himself the right of making such further observations as he:might think tit upon tl,e motion, which he under stood a noble friend was about to make, to postpone the second reading of the bill. The Duke of NEWCASTLE thought that after the decision which their lordships had arrived at with raged to the Thames Conservancy MI it would not be necessary for him to trouble them at any length in asking them to agree to the second reading of the present Bill, but he would proceed at once to' give some account of the origin of the measure. It would be unneeessary for him to go back to all the vari ous transactions connected with rod ,ing deco upon shipping in Liver pool, or into the histo7 of Vie legislaticn which had taken place upon the subject at successive peso Is. Their lordships, however, world recollect that in 1814, in consequence of a supposed inability on the part of Liverpool to supply th, greatly increasing wants felt in differ ent quarters, the Birkenhead. Dock project was originated, and appli cations co fleeted with that project had been made to the Legislature in every sueceeling ye at. In the year lees no less than four such 13.11 s had been introduced, which had been classed in one group and referred to a select committee. After a. careful consideration that committee rejected those measures, and proposed certain measuree s a compromise, and those were agreed to by the conflicting parties , and last year a Bill had been irstredneel by the Corporation of Liver - pool to carry that compromise into elect. That Bill, howevet: nsglected some of the most important provisions laid down by t b- e committee, and open its being referred to a committee it was nega tived as being a breach of the conditions agreed upon during the previous year. A similar ieessare la el again been introduced during the present year, but fortunately for the interests of the public the Bill which he then asked their lordships to read a second time had been also introduced, and was promoted by the general commercial and railwao interests affects iby this question. He had been to d that an attempt would be male to show that this Bill would enact with regard to Liverpool that which had been proposed by Mr. Lowe in the other House of Parliament with regard to passing tolls upon shipping. That, however, was not the case, for the Bill introduced by the right hon. gentleman proposed to abolish passing tolls altogether, while the present Bill placed the collection of them in the hands of those whose iaterest it was to preserve them. With regard to the allegation that the subject was one which ought to be dealt with by a public and not a. private Bill, ha could only say that, In his opinion, it was fairer to all the parties interested to deal with the question by a private measure. The very objection which had been urged against the Bill of Mr. Lowe wa s that it was a public Bill, and the noble lord at the head of the Govern ment, in withdrawing it, had. admitted that objection. He believed aso that those who opposed the Bill would a ivance the suggestion that it w is an act of spoliation, but he was prepared to show that Parliament had legislated upon cognate subjects in a manner muck more stringent. Their lordships would recollect the Municipab Corporations Act, and he would appeal to noble and learned lords. whether, at the time that Act WAS passed, it was not the opinion cE the most emirs nt lawyers of the day that that measure dealt with• private pro s erty in the most absolute-sense of the word. Three years ago a measure was pissed welch dealt with the Trinity Board ins manner still more strongly. It not only diminished their rights and , interfered with their revenue, but it introduced that principle cf central control which tad been.so much objected to, and that to a much greater extent than was effected , by this Bill ; fcr, while only thre e oat of that ,enty-one members of this board wore to be nominated by the Government, the Trinity Board was in most material reopects placed under the control of the Board of Trade. ,There was no foundation for. the assertion that this was a measure of spoliation,. because this was net private property in the sense in which it hedebeen asserted to be. so. Fora long time the Liverpool Corperatioa regarded themselves as no more thee trustees of the fund for shipping purposes. and coasidered only the surplus, if even that, as applicable to the wants of the town. The time had come when it was alosoliesely necessary to carry out the rents:imam lations of the committee ever which Mr. Labouchere had presided, and to constitute a trust elected by those interested in the docks. There was a great accrsmalation of authority in favour of the Bill, a great number of petitions had. been - presented, praying that it might-pa . as into law. and ha4coult not believe that there would be any serious attempt made new to oeetraet its further progress. He hoped.„therefore, that their lordships would consent to send the Bill to EI select committee. The noble drakes concluded by moving the second reading of the Bill. Lord RAVENSWORTH rose to oppose the bill, as beine a violent rand arbitrary measure, at Variance with the existing law of the; land, and with the great principles of justice which ought to regalete all pro ceedings of this kind, and subversive of the righta of property. It was true that the bill had passed the House of Ccmreons without any serious opposition, but its progress had been ettendee with very peculiar circumstances. When interests of thiaanagnetude were to be considered he did net' know that there was a worse tribunal than the House of Commons upon the second readieg, of a private bill, Hon. metnbers were anxious to get to the public business ; it was supposed that the subject would be thoroughly considered by the committee upstairs;: a buzz of impatience generally went through the House. and the greatest desire was expressed: to dispose of the. measure. Mr. Milner Gibson, when the see and reading of this bill was proposed, said, the House would not affirm the principle of the• measure by assenting to the second reading. Yet what took place in the cotounitese i There the chairman stated that the committee would probably have entertained a peculiar difficulty with regard to the principle, if it were not that that principle had. already been adopted and :sanctioned by the House. As regarded the mope 'Lion of the se committees, members supposed to be particularly interested, in the subject were not admitted to serve upon them, bat this emelu isiore his opinion, was a piece of one-sided j aetiee and partial im partiality; no precaution was taken -against having as members, or even as chairman, gentlemen who had come to foregone conclusions on the subject of consideration, and it was thus possible that the grossest partiality and injustice might be perpetrated. He contende I that ties was a measure of spoliation. The principle of eter.pensai ion was altogether ignored by the bill, although It had bee a acted upon. over and over again in similar cases by the Legislature. He believed that the object in proposing the bill was to achieve a ecnettest over the corporation of Liverpoal, which could not have been achieved if Liverpool had been joined with the other ports of the kingdom in a, general bill; and when that conquest over Liverpool was effected the other ports would be dealt with its succession in a similar manner.. The noble duke had said that the corporation of Liverpool had neg lected the interests of that port ; but if that were so, how did it happen. tnat the shipping of Liverpool had increased so enormously, and that her new docks eetended several miles? The noble duke had given no good reason way their lord hips should assent to the second roasting of a privates bill which interfered with importaet objes' s and menaced the security of the property of every corporation. In the. bingdom. He ,begged, therefore, to move thel the bill be :cad a second time that day Vane months. Lord WENSUYpAIE (who was vary Indistinctly heard in the gallery)said that he felt it his duty to oppose the second - reedit, g of this Bill. The measure was one which their lordships' well-kieown regard for the right of property should Induce them to rejeeta The right to these tolls was _origin illy granted' by the Crown, and the mere fact that the revenue. raised from them had enormously in creased in no wsy affected the validity of the title of their owners. This Bill involved principlei which ought not to be ietrodnced into a private measure. The right of the corporation of Liverpool to levy these tells, had been established beyood all doubt. The total amount which they produced in the year 1a72, was only £`22. In 18.47 they had increased to £leo.ooo, and they now amounted to £lsa,co 5. If the corporation of Liverpool were to be robbed of this amount with out compensation they would be obliged teirepose a borough rate. the value of property within the borough would be diminished, and private interests would be seriously affected, The Liverpool docks were commenced in 1710, when they occupied only five acres. They now covered an area of 2ee acres and were 16 miles in length,. Pre vious to 1825 they were under the ohs management of the corpora tion, but in that year the merceants obtained a share in the, manage ment and were associated with the corporation is the dock trust. No complaint had been made that the dock trustees had failed to provide en su t i a t r a y b , le o d r oc p k ub a li . rt o n r modation , valuable a property from 'he corporation of Liverpool without com pensation. (Hear, hear.) He thought ha had stated to their lord ships reasons sufficiently strong why they should mot read the Bill a reasonable a n is ci r ground d eo f ourld, to c , ct i z e a l w va ay n s o o second time. To do so woo d be, in his opinioa, to act in Lionviolan of that great pr rciple of our law by which it was provided that n e the noble and learned son should be deprived of lets property without due compensation being made. (Hoer.) The Marquis of Ceerrateeeee contended thr,t neither the noble lord wholord hwandomlloavdejaustthseatrediolf,nhaodf t f h ti e rn ß ie l : l- e ' l ll alay grounds which would justify their lordships in departing fe em ;la at course which in relation to private bills they uniformly adopted. e those noble lords had indeed, maintaMed that the measure 'adore the House would effect the rights of private property ; but was not that, he would ask, 'he case with every measure of a priTP.te character which had came under their jordships' consideration? (Hear, hear.) He shoul d also beg their lordships to bear In mind t hat the committee of the ot her House of Parliament towhich this bill had been referred ha d deemed it to be. 'their duty to sit for 25 days he order thoroughly to investigate 'details ; that Mr. Hope Scott ad the learned gentleman who hal been pposed to him hal each occupied two days In commenting upon its provisions and in summing up the evidence, wit Is their lordships sought to dispose of the whale question in a desultory debate of two or three hours. (Hearhear.) Now, he was well aware that the noble lord who had moved the rejection of the bill was capable of eakhag for two days if he ch nose (laughter); bat then, he hal con tined his observations within a very much narroyrerlimit ; and he (the Marquis of Clanricarde) could not help think ng that a measure with raipect to which the committee had taken so long a time to deliberate could not be satisfactorily dealt with in a few short speeches of that description. He must also mai e tain that the principleof compensation which it was said was involved in the bill was one which their lord ' t hips were night after night in the hebit of referring to the considers.. ton of a select committee. The bill, however, involved something mere than the princireeof compensation ; it embraced the question of the cosserrancy of the river Mersey—a question of ties utmost importance, one in which the commerce, not only of this country but of the whole world, was concerned. Would ther lordships then deem themselves j ratified in the summery rejection of a measure of that nature repo r the ground that it interfered with private property, witleena at all eve eta, taking the necessary steps to ascertain to what extent that property would be effected 1 The fort was that the membe.c of the corporation of Liver celeseemed to have got the notion into their heads that the trade of the Kersey should lise carried on for the special benefit of that to 4n, bat he trustee their lordehips would, by assenting to the second reading of the bill, and its subeeqnent reference to a select committee, show teat they were prepared to take a somewh t dtretent view of the subject. (Hear, heir.) The Earl of DERBY said, that if the Bill hed been one of an. ordinary character he should concur wits the noble m rinses who had just spoken in the opinion that it was desirable it should be referred to a select committee. He was prepared, however, to urge a departure from that course, because hernaintaned that their lordships, and not a twice:l - committee, ware the p.oper judges of the iplu involved in a =satire, and because, notwithstandlrg anything which the noble marquis might urge to the contrary, the prineiple which was con tained in the ifill unirm their lordships' notice was one which he (Lord .Darby): Led never known to be embraced in any private, and hardly in any public r nactment —he moaet the principle of taking away erivate plates ty without affording compensation. (Hear.) There was one point connected with the subject to which he could not heap referring, and that was that the Government, deviating from the ordinary caurso with regard to private Bills, Lad exercised their rnaueme more or less to turn it into a party camstien. He felt bound to deprecate such a courea, and to assure their losdships that it had not at least been adopted by noble lords on the side of the House on which he had the honour of eating. The noble marquis had referred to the magnitude of the intereet, involved in the Bill, but he would beg their lordships to remember that those interests had acquired that magnitude under the management of that yaw bely whom it was now sought to oust from their pesitioa. Why, the increase in the port of L verpool Lad teem perfect y marvellous. In 1710 the docks extended over five acres, in 1811 that hal increase I to 30 acres, and in,lehe to 203 acres, wut a the number of ships had in the last ico years Inc' eased from 1,731 to 22,032: Then, pith regard to the purchase of the Birkenhead interest, did not the noble marquis know that at the time that hiterest s was purchased the whole concern at .Birkenhead was in• a state of irretrievable bankruptcy, caused by entering inn competition with Liverpool, and that the sole object of the purchase was to save an enormous quantity of property which would otherwise have been absciutely thrown away t' So much. for the grasping views of L'verpcol with regard to Birken head. (Hear.) The.noble and learned lord opposite had entered so folly into the legal claims which existed with regard to the town dues that he would not await upon that Bala eat farther than to say that those clams were perfectly =disputed ; they had been made the subject of family settlements and of mortgages, which Parliament had .sanctioned, and the - 7. had been jadicia ly,reeognised irr the courts o I law; and yet the present bill proposed to take away those rights, and that without compensation It had been said that the corporation of Liverpool hal dealt in an ungenerous way as regarded the matter of ' land in order to increase their own c eperatointerest ; but was that really the case? Why, the committee which had inquired into the whole question hat reported that they had, incurred expense for docks, for the parehaseare land, for the erecti M of the new Custom House, to an enormous amount, and had defrayed those expenses from their revenue. It was proposed by the ;present bill to toi:e away an undisputed rightfrona that corporation of .eloo,ooO or .e 150,000 a-year, without giving them the slightest compensation ; the bill was, in point of fact the thin end of the wedge which it was proposed to introduce to carry out the principle of the general measure which the Government had Weed to carry. (Hear,. hear.) A bill had. been introduced last year by the right honourable the Vice-President of the Board of Trade the effect of which would have been to confiscate the property of the• various corporations of towns throught England without giving them any compensation; and perhaps their lordships h sd not dareotten the extraordinary doctrines which had been laid down upon that occasion by the right hon. gen tlernan—ectrines of such a character that. even the pelLical friends of the right hen. gentleman shrank from d,fenling them, and which approached almeet lo the old Socialistic motto, "La propriete, c'eat 1e vol." (Hear, hear.) That Bill had been referred to a select com mittee, which Lad proceelea to inquire into the case of Li ierpoo alone. In the meantime a private bill was introduced by persons unconnected wish Liverpool affirming principles similar to those of the measure which was withdrawn in the House of Commons. To this Bill the Government lent their support in order to carry out the principle in a private Bill with regard to one city, and thus to put at their mercy all other corporations. This was nut a matter which. ought tc be referred to a select committee of fire members. It was a principle on which the rime ought to decide, and the proper stage at which to take its ne ,. ..lsion was cn the second reading of the Bill, The prinoPple involved was the taking away of property from in dividaaLs, or corporations by legislative enactment without giving them conr,iensation. That was a principle upon which we hal not acted either in regard to the Danish Sound deep, or in regard to pensions held by persons who had no right to them except that of prescription. The noble marquis hal asked upon what ground those who opposed this Bill had ou the present occasion departed from the usual practice of the House. He would not ente7.lt.to the details of the Bill, but if he did eo he could show the gram injustice and rami e fast im policy of reemy of its provisions. There was no allegation ci mismanagement, no charge of abase, no proof of injury done On this contrary,, the greatest advantage had been derived ft oun the existing; state of things; yet without any ostensible plaintiff they were a) rout to take away the proper y of a corporation for purposes which he certainly did not believe were of an exclusive l y public nature a. This. was a departure from the Le variable practice of that , /least r, and to the affirmation of tits principle involved in the Bill he Coale, not with a sale conscience give his ascent. Si net Secures of ALOE:MET, in vindicating the conduct of the Go vernment in regard to this measure, denied that it was true, as had Wen stated by the noble Earl, that tha measure introduced last ses sion for regulating passing tolls and abolishing local dues upon ship yeing was, rejected upon principle on theaecond reading. The Earl of DERBY had not said that the measure was rejected What he sail was that there ware such objections to it that the Government were compelled to withdraw it Lord STACSLEY of ALDERLEY—The noble Earl had sail that the .. principle was condemned. That WAS not so. The ground upon which it was referred to a select committee was that there were spe cial. circumstances connected with each harbour in re; ird t 3 which it was necessary thiit evidence should be heard. Such evidence was heard in regard to the port of Liverpool, and in the present session. this measure was introduicd., It had two objects—one to transfe • the town dues of Liverpool from the corporation to the dock trustees, and the tether to vest the conservancy of the river and the management of the byu d n oc t k i, s os o a n w lp h o o th its contri4 shor t e e s d in t a , s o t i h n e el m e body,w anc hi e ch o s f h t o h u e ld d b e e ck e s l , ec a t n el d which should not betentrolled and dominated over by the corporation of Liverpool. That the corporatioa of that plat had de ideated over the docks, and had on mere than one occasion postponed the interests of the harbour to those of tie town, it was not difficult to prove. How long was it before warehoases were erected within the limits of the does s, to which cargoes could be immediately trans:erred from the vessels, h.:cease the inhabitants and corporation of Liver pooldridrive e hadall thewarge o o a u s s ews hich o came t i h t : t h o c e k p s r i n t to ? I w a h i l c s h they s s t there er wish e w e a d s to a project for making to ship calal to connect Wielasey pool with the month of the Dee. The corporation of Liverpool were alarmed at this scheme. and in cider to defeat it they paid the promoters of it '18,!,000 for land which he believed had not cost them £lO,OOO. There was some objection to this on the part of some shortsighted inhabitants of Liverpool, and - Mr. Forster, the town cle-k, said that the town canoe 1 of Liverpool, as the pretecters of the rights of the burgesses, could not expend their funds bettor than ie preveutng the establishment of a commercial rival' on the other side of the water. This. showed what sort cf a parent Liverpool was likely to be to Birken head. This purchase put an end to the scheme until Mr. 'tendon drew up his plan for making docks in Wallasey Pool. Liverpool applied to Parliament for powers to purchase the docks, and the select commi tea to which their bill was re - erre i imposed upon the dock committee the obligation of refraining from spending money on the construction of the docks which they contemplated along the north shore until they saw *what Birkenheal could do to accommodate the increasing' trade. e' Next year Liverpool brought forward a bat for effecting this object, but of so inadequate a character, thet the select committee threw it out after half-an-honr's examinat;on. of Mr. needed'. This year independent parties, seeing that there was no tics , ce of Liver pool caffeine oat the scheme, came forward and applied for powers for the purpose. The arguments by which this bill was opposed were exactly those which were brought forwa d when tho Municipal Core porations Act was under discussion. Then it Was said that Parliamen had no right to deal with corporate property without compensetion, bat Parliament did so des; with the property of corporations on that occasion, with these town due. among the rest, and Parliament has an equal right so to deal with them now. Nothing more was done tics bill than to transfer these (hies to the purposes for winch the: were originally intended—the malntenance and improvement of till harbour. It had undergone very careful and lobo ions consideradoi before a select committee of the other House, lasting over 25 days and he hoped their lordships would not consent to the motion f..r il rejection. Lori Repeseees woe afraid that, if in a private Bill they deal with pr operty in the manner ereposed, without giving any compansa tion, they would be establishing a precedent which might hereafte most injuriowsly affect private property. After a few obscrvatio .s from the Dake of NEWCASTLE 11 reply. Their 1 , rdship3 divided upon the qu stion that Lois Bill be no read a second time. The Lumbers were— Contents .......... . Non-contents Majority. ••• The Bill was then read e second time.