Northern Times. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-08-07 00:00:00

TOWN COUNCIL. The adjourned meeting of the Council was held at eleven o'clock yesterday, in the Concert-room, St. George's fall, the Mayor, FRANCIS SHAND, Esq., presided. Mr. CHARLES TURNB said : I believe, Mr. Mayor, that when the Council adjourned yesterday, the motion for adjournment was moved by myself, and it was moved upon a resolution which I had previously made, proposing that certain gentlemen, whose period of service llad expired, be re-elected membets of the Dock Comraittee by this Council. I will therefore now repeat the motion I made yesterday, without making any epee& upon it. I move that Messrs. Thomas Robinson, Charles Turner, Thomas Chilton, and Thomas Darnley Anderson be re-elected members of the Dock Committee. Mr. CHILY3N seconded the motion. Toe MATOR said a reply had been received to the 'tele graphic communication sent up yesterday. The reply was, that nothing was intended about the re-election of the dock members, but it was thought that discussion upon the subject might be trejudieial. Mr. J. R. JEFFERY : I beg to move, sir, that the Council do now adjourn to Saturday next. I came down yesterday night by the mail, from a conference with your deputation, held twice yesterday. up o n reading, sir, the proceedings of yesterday's meeting in this chamber this, morning, a 3 represented in the public prints, which I think will be admitted to be a tolerably correct report, I find that Mr. Turner has fallen into an error in supposing that the telegraphic communication, which was received here by some members of the Council from myself, was of a-political character. So far from that, sir, after the telegraphic communication to yourself had been 'for warded yesterday, I suggested the propriety, as the result of our deliberations, while in consultation among our selves, Mr. Alderman Turner in the chair, that there should be no Council, if possible, and that I said, without the slightest regard to the election or rejection of the gentlemen who it is proposed to-day shall be returned again to the Dock Committee. The circumat 'nee was not introduced—the subject was not mentioned. I read to nay colleagues the telegraphic communication. They highly approved of it. I addressed that communication to Mr. Picton, as' I had received a communication the day before, which I also read to my colleagues, that Mr Pieton was about to ask some questions in this chamber with refer ence to the present position of the Mersey Conserveuey Mill. I also scut the same telegraphic communication to Mr. A. C. Stewart. I sent the same communication to Mr. Ald. Holme ; and Mr. Ald. Turner sent a telegraph in his own language, but in the same spirit, to Mr. Tobin. Now, sir, I think the Council will be satisfied, after that, that nothing of a political character was intended to be conveyed by that telegraphic commun'cation. (Hear, hear.) I have by my side Mr. Tyrer, who wes present at the conference, and was a party to that telegraphic communi cation being sent forward. I think no member of the Council will say that Mr. Tyrer would be a party to a political complexion being given to a dommunication to the prejudice of his friend, Mr. Turner. No, sir. I repeat, not one syllable was mentioned in the discussion in referench to the election or rejection of the gentlemen who were to be nominated yesterday or tc-jay for seats in the I) 'clt Commi tee. Now, sir, I will assign the reason why that communication was sent. The communication was sent to yourself that the Dock Committee's proceedings only should be proceeded with, and that then the Council should be atlj learned. Even upon that not a word was said about the re-election of the members whose seats had become vacant in the Dock Committee. But the fear was this—that, as we were about to resolve, and as we did subsequently resolve, upon certain terms being submitted to our opponents, it was quite possible that counter-terms might be submitted to-day, which would call forth a rejoinder from ourselves, which again might call forth a rtiader to-morrow, and Saturday, we thought, would b 3 a very convenient day, in deed, if the confirmation of the Council should be needed, in order that time might net be unnecessarily dslayed in carrying out the object-for which you sent your deputation to London. And when I tell you, Mr. Mayor and the Council, that we are spending from £3OO to ..ElOO a day, I do call upon the Coundl, as representing the interests of the rate-payers at large, to pause before they do anything which might jeopardize the interests of the constituents who sent them here. I do beseech you, gentlemen, to enter upon no discussion whatever—to adjourn quietly until Saturday, and if this motion be accepted by the Coun cil now present, and that the Council adjourn well Satar• day, I have no desire to say another word, but, if you do not adopt it, I would ask you to do one of the two things— first, to pass the resolution for adjourning the Council until Saturday, or if you will not do that then at once recall your deputation from Lon ion, either one or the other. have no desire whatever, to say another word, but if the Council gn on then, it will be my duty to make such a statement for the guidance of the wadi as will be done very reluctantly indeed; because conceive, that anything more which may be said will be to the prejudice of those who have rent ns here, but the necessity which drives me to do my duty will also prompt me not to be withheld by any consideration from fully discharging that duty, and upon the majority then the responsibirity must rest. (Hear, hear,) Mr. Hopson seconded the amendment. Mr. CHARLES TURNBR : I have not heard, in the speech made by Mr. Jeffery, any reason whatever given why the election of the Gentleman whom I have proposed should not be proceeded with. I have heard many very sound reasons why we should have no discussion, in that I perfectly agree, but I would ask the Council to remember that unless there is some objection in the minds of some gentlemen belonging to the Council, as to the fitness of the gentlemen who are proposedforre-election, there-election of these gentlemen would no on, as a matter of course, with , out any discussion. ( Hear, hear.) Bat it' there is such a feeling in the minds of some members of the Council—and from the concleirg part of Mr. Jeff,ry's remarks, I must infer that there is—l think it quite right that that feeline should be expres:el at once. (Bear, hear.) It is well known to this Council that being sett as a member of the Dock Committee by this toady, I have had the great honour of being elected the.chairman of the Dock Committee by the members of that Board. I have been elected, not once, but three times, during the last six years—first, in August, 1851, and twice subseveatly. On all those occasionemy re-election gave rise to no discussion at all Therefore I must infer, from the observations which have been male, that there is something behind which, in the opinion of some gannlernen, renders my re-election objectionable. Far be it from me to quarrel with any gentleman for expressing honestly and openly his opinions. If any gentleman thinks my conduct during the last six years, while I occupied the chair at that Board, has been improper either as regards my duty to the town and the trade of the port, or as regards my duty to the Council and the rateprteayers of the town, both of which I have, so far as my bumble abili•ies would allow me, most conscientiously determined to bear in mini. If any gentleman thinks I have failed in the discharge of my duty, it is (Fite right and proper that he should oppose my re•election ; and I agree with Mr. Jeffery, that he would be failing in his dnty, if he did not oppose my being sent again as a deputy from the Council to the D ck Committee. But, sir, I was told eresterday that the post ponement of the election involved nothing, inasmuch as I could act as chairman in the meantime. Well, now, lam speaking to gentlemen of honour and of influence ; to g • entlemen who feel a regard f or th e i r own c h aracter as I feel a regard for mine; and I do feel, and I respectfully state, without any wish to fool t out any threat of any kind or description to the Council, that, although no question of merely personal feeling could prevent me from going through anything which I hit it was my duty to peform, with regard to the trade of the town' and the inhabi tants of this great borough —yet if I were to conde scend to act, having my re-election postponed in the manner in which it is .proposed to do, I feel that I should degrade my own character, and that, holding the position I do, I should degrade the office. (Rear, hear.) lam expressing my own feelings, and upon these, having come to a clear conclusion upon the matter, I must, with all due deference, act. If the only reason for postponing this re election must be, as I have already stated, some feeling of want of confidence in me, then, in what position am I placed? I had a telegrapbic message from the Dick Solicitor Past night, saying that be hoped, at all events, I would go up to London to-day. Suppose I go up to London to-day, and attend a meeting of my brethren :of the Dock Committee ; suppose I go down to the Deck Committee at one o'clock, and take the chair, bow can 1 perform my duty, in either capac i ty, with what IMISt feel to be a vote of want of confidence hanging over my head ? I must say I could not po]sibly do it. If any pert of my conduct should seem to favour the dock ratepayers, what would be said? It would be said—" You are acting with a feclirg of spite, or something of the kin], towards the Couceil and the town." If, on the other hand, I should think it my duty to go with and act in a way whi c h may be considered by some of the dock ratepcyersin favour of the extreme views of members of the Council, it will then he said, " we see that Mr. Turner is afraid of his re-election." Now, unl - ss I can go to the Dock Com mittee thoroughly independent, and unless the Council are of opinion that, being independent, I have inteliigerce and character enough to do nay duty to the ratepayers of this town—as I have most conscientiously endeavoured to do upon all occasiona—defending them in this place, in Lon den, and everywhere else—unless they hare confidence enough in me to replace me in that position which I hold nominally now, bat which yesterday I held by virtue of the election of 1851—unless they send me to London in such a manner that I think I can act properly during the nego eations which are taking place—l hope and trust that they will elect Valci one slag ire Eni stead. If you should adjourn , this Council, as proposed by Mr. Jeffery, I shall act, as said•before, upon my own sense of my duty, and shall merely be quiescent until the Council have either expressed, by a vote, their coafi knee in me, or else elected some one else in my place. I raw, thereore, persist in my mettou. The Council then divided upon the amendment, when there appeared— For the amendment: Aldermen Bennett, Dover ; Councillors Stitt, A. C Stewart, Sheil, Woodruff, Hay dock, McGuffie, Godfrey, Steains, Banner, Johnson, J. R. , Jeffery, Kitchen, Hodson. Mellor, and Beckwith-17. Against the amendment: Toe Mayor; Aldermen Chil ton, Parker, Robinson, Cooper, Hought ra, S. Hanle ; Councillors Anderson, Tyrer, Turner, Livingston, Wag staff, Lawrence, Shand, Brancker, Tobin, •Farnworth, Robertson, and Hall-19. The amendment was, therefore, declared lost. Mr. Honsoer said he regretted that be would now have to perf alai the duty which he bad performed the previous day. He had to express bis great surprise, that two gen tlemen, who were evidently parties to the telegraphic despatch which was seat down the previous day, should hive come to the Council that day and voted against the opinion which was expressed in the tele graphic communication of the previous day. That appeared to him a most extraordinary thing, and he confessed that it placed those gentlemen in a false and unfortunate position. (Hear, hear.) He would again ask them whether it was politic, after what Mr. Jeffery, who was one of their deputation, told them, and in as thin a Council as ever assembled, to carry out their object by a bare majority of trier? He was sure that Mr. Turner would take his word when he told him that he had no personal objection to him, but, as a member of the Council and representative of the rate payers, he should endeavour to do his dn'y. When they saw such a gentleman as Mr. Turner straining every point, and, with the greatest anxiety, begging of the Council to re-elect him, he (Nir. Hodson) would ask every member in the room whether they could disabuse their mind of the impression that there must be some latent . feeling in the breast of that gentleman ? What motive—what deep-laid scheme, was ahere, that they should be forced to an election that day.? Mr. Jeffery told him, before they entered the room that morning, sufficient to convince him that there was more than met the eye in this matter, and that if all the features of the case were laid bare, many gentlemen in the room, who voted with the majority, would vote with the minority. If the attempt at an election that day were persevered in, then he should say that in duty Mr. Jeffery was called upon to lay bare ail the facts of the case. (" Hear, hear," from Mr. Turner.) They saw how the majority was made no; they saw how gentlemen, who scircely ever attended except to vole for their "party," were "drummed up" in a manner that was anything but creditable to the Council. (Loud cries of Order, order," and "Hear, hear.") He (Mr. Hodson), at a ptcnniary sacrifice, devoted his time to the discharge of his duties as a member of the Council ; but gentlemen were brought into the room that day—he alluded particularly to the gentleman at the foot of the table (llr. G. H. Horafall)— who never appeared hut on the occatien of a vote for their party, and when that vote was " tight run." (Hear, hear, and cries of "Order, order," from Mr. A. Shand.) " Order, order" might be cried by Mr. A Shand, but what he (Mr. Hodson) stated was the no less true. He would ask again what motive was there that Mr. Turner should so beg and pray of the Council to re-elect him ? B:fore he (Mr. Hodson) would so palm -himself on gentlemen, and beg of them for their votes, he would spurn them. (Cheers and laughter.) If he said one word that was offensive Mr. C. TURVER : Yon have said a good many, sir. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) Mr. Alderman Toutatne here entered the room, and was received with laughter from Mr. Beckwith and the gentle men on his side of the room. Mr. Hormel continued : He was sorry if he had used any language that was offensive, but if they wanted any proof of the correctness of this statement, let them look at the arrivals. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) They were not dealing fair with the interests of the people of Liverpool. (Hear, hear.) The interests of the tradespeople were at stake, and it was their duty, as the represensatives of the people, to protect them. He would move that the Council adjourn till Saturday. Mr. STITT seconded the motion. Mr. C. TURNER : Mr. Hodson says he is quite wilting to vote for my election, only it must not be to-day, and yet a speech more full of insinuation against my character, as a merchant and a gentleman, I never heard. (Hear.) I appeal to any one here whether the speech is not as full of insinuation against my character as it is possible for a speech to be—(hear, hear)—and if half of what Mr. Hodson has insinuated is true, I connot see how it would be consistent with his duty to vote for me either on to day or Saturday. (Hear, hear.) Ido not ask the Council to reeelect me, but I ask the Condi to decide this ques tion. I say, it the Council re-elect me I will serve them, but I will not act while this is hanging over me. I con sider the postponement a slur on my character. I have told Mr. Hodson so over and over again, and yet he reite rates the same charge, as if I had not answered it before. Mr. Hodson is an independent gentleman ; I am also in dependent, and, without depreciating Mr. Hodson's character, I think mine stands as high in this town as does Mr. Hodson's Mr. A. C. STEWART Ke p from personalities. (" Order order.") Mr. Q. TURNER : What was Mr. Hoisoa's speech ? Hear, hear.) A sieec'a more full of personalities I never tieaid. Ho insinuated that I begged and solicited my election. Was that not personal? He insinuated that I did that for some underhand motive. Mr. HODSON : I said there must be—l did not say there was. (Laughter.) Mr. C. TURNER : I take you at your word. He did not not say there was a motive, but that there must be a motive. (Laughter ) Was that no insinuation ? (Hear, beer.) It meant that I was afraid of something coming out between this and Saturday which would endanger my re-election. Ido not solicit my re-election, hut Ido ask that the question may be d.cidel this day. (Hear, hear ) Mr. Alderman S. HOLM'S said, that having moved the adjournmemt of the Council on Wednesday, it was neces sary that he should give some explanation of the reason which indaced him to do so. He begged to say that Mr. Turner laboured under a great misapprehension if he supposed for one moment that it was hostility to him which caused him to move the adjournment--(hear, hear) —and, although he had not time to read fully the pro ceedings after he (Mr. Holm() left the Council, yet he did regret to see that Mr. Turner bad made use of the term " political," beciuse, so far as he (Mr. Wilme) was concerned, Mr. Turner must hive been aware that he had been one of his strongest supporters. (Hear, hear.) Mr. TURNER : I withdraw the term. Mr. Alderm an IloLstu continued—fie took a higher view of the question. He had been in London four times on the matter. He was aware of the great difficulties which the deputation had to encounter. He knew that an immens.; sum of money was involved in the arrangement ; he knew that the negociation had arrived at A crisis, and he knew also, that it was most important that nothing should occur which might impede the labours of the gentlemen who were working night and day in their behalf iu London. It was on that account that he was desirous they should have no discussion, and it was, there fore, he moved the adjournment to Saturday. When he entered the room he suggested to Mr. Turner that they should have no council, and he'much regretted that that gentleman tcok a different view of the question. He regretted that Mr. Turner considered it a personal matter, but be sympathised with hiin is his desire to stand well with his fellow-townsmen. The deire for an adjournment originated in no personal motive but in a sense of public duty—(hear, hear) —but the discussion which they deprecated having taken peace, and the mischief having been done, he felt now that it was better to go on with the business. He should repeat again that he had no motive for the adjournment, and he desired it, in the first instance, simply on public grounds. Mr. TYRER said that when the deputation in London, of which he was one, telegqyhed that there should be no Council, it was n o t f or th e purpose o f avo i d i ng the election of the dock membere,—(hear, hear)—bat to avoid any discussion taking place on the Conservancy Bill. When, however, they heard in London that a discussion had taken place, they then considered it was better it should go on. He accordingly came down from London, and the other members would have come down also, were it not that the Town . Clerk . wish e d t h ey should stay in London, as certain propositions were made which would require their presence. Mr. J. 11.: JEFFERY said he was satisfied that if the gentlemen in London ware aware of all that took place in the Council en Wednesday, an d were not dependent for their information on a telegraphic message, they would at once say, " Cease your discussions as speedily as possible: (Hear, bear.) D./ not g) on, becalse damage must neces sarily ensue." (Hear, hear.) He would not yet b e tempted to go into details. He shrunk from the responsi bility, and nothin g w ou ld pr o voke him to it bat a per sistence in the course which had that day been com menced. (Hear, hear.) He bad no desire to be personal to Mr. Turne r . H e d es i re d to speak o f hi m in his public capacity, as a member of the Council, and as a dock chairman, and he begged o f M r . T urner to v i e w his remarks in that light. They saw the pertinacity with which Mr. Turner adhered to his opinion ; and the opponents of the Corporation knew perfectly well that Mr. Turner was opposed to any uegeeiation whatever. (Hear, hear.) Mr. C. TURNER : That is not true. (Hear, Bear.) Mr. Alderman DOVER thought Mr. Turner s h ould 1 use such language. Mr, JEFFERY continued : He knew Mr. Turner eieant THE NORTHERN TIMES. LIVERPOOL, FRIDAY, AUGUST 7, 1857. nothing offensive. (Hear, hear, from Mr. Turner.) He wish of the town of Liverpool, was, that this great question understood Mr. Turner to mean that the statement was not should be settled by negotiation this session, bat it was in accordance with his inten-ion ; -but he (Mr. Jeffery) stated by Mr. Jeffery, and admitted to be correct by Mr. heard Mr. Turner state, in conference in London, that their Turner, that Mr. Turner wes opposed to negotiation. opponents were not to he treated with in goof faith—that Mr. TURNER : I did not admit anything of the kind. they had better not treat with then at all. Re would ask Mr. STEWART : Mr. Jeffery appealed to you, and I uc- Mr. Turner, if he (Mr. Jeffery) were not putting the derstoocl you to admit that he was correct. statement cerrecdy. Ms. Turner further said, that he Mr. TURNER: Mr. Jeffery appealed to me and I said believed their case was so good and just that, if they fought nothing, because I was not allawed to make a second their opponents to an issue, they would obtain that speech. which they ought to receive, or succeed in throwing out Mr. STEWART: Then Ido not take Mr. Turner as the bill. having agreed to it ; bat I know from what I consider a Mr. LIVINGSTON: Every honest man will say the same good source of authority, that Mt. Turner was so thoroughly Mr. J. R. JEFFERY continued: He never said that " convinced of the strength and' oodness of the cause, that he was not an honest man, but he said their op- he won! 1 not nerociate with our opponents, but would ponents were conscious that Mr. Turner was resolved, so meet them in the House of Lords. far as he was able, to prevent ahy negotiation whatever Mr. TURNER: I must protest against having views at between the parties which could lead to an amicable tribnted to me, unless lam allowed to make another speech arrangement. Now, only yesterday one of the counsel for in explanation. (Hear, hear.) I object, most strongly, to their opponents said to him (Mr. Jeffery), " Let us have statements being made on my sentiments, I having spoken no victory —pray melee an arrangement. It is not my upon the question, and, therefore, not being at liberty to interest to induce you to arrange terms of peace. It is speak again. (Hear, hear.) my interest, perhaps, in a pecuniary sense, that you should Mr. Srewertr said he understood from various sources, make war, but I believe, no matter what side conquers, a that Mr. Turner was opposed to negotiation, and he bitter feeling will remain which it will be very difficult to •htught still that there was a little difference of opinion allay. Therefore, I ask .yoe to come to terms and make between Mr. Turner and the Council. If those matters an arrangement." Now, that being the position of things. were settled, he would not have the slightest objection to would they that day re-elect the only gentleman who seeding Mr. Turner again to the Duck Committee. stood prominently before their opponents as a Mr. WOODRUFF contended that the four gentlemen stumbling-block, and who had been the stumbling-block whose names were proposed, appeared in a very indelicate throughout the negotiation-? If they elected Mr. Turner position, in voting for themselvea upon every division. that day, it would be to say to their opponents that they (" Hear, hear," and " No, no.") agreed with him, an .l that they would be a party to no ar- Mr. Cntrerow said as long as he had a seat in the Council rangement. (Hear, hear.) He besought of them not to he would give his vote fearlessly. (Hear, hear.) It was proceed further with the election, but if they were re- his belief that it was proper to send Mr. Turner to the solved to do so, then they had better withdraw their depu. Dock Committee, and nothing any man could say in that tation from Londe); for under such circumstances they room should prevent him from doing his duty. That was would be powerless, and would leave Mr. Turner and his duty, and he would stop there to the last moment to those who thought with him go and conduct the business vote, and he would not be dictated to by anybody. (Hear, ther a Suppose they did cot elect Mr. Turner that day, hear.) what would be the effect -? They had opened negocia- Mr. TURNER asked to be allowed to say a few words, Hone, and if the Council adjourned to Saturday, they • but the Mayor did not think it would be in order to hear hoped they would bo able to lty amicable terms before it, him. which woull probably receive their unanimous consent. Mr. Alderman PARKER charged Mr. A. C. Stewart with He now spoke of the terms which were submitted on having omitted, when he read the despatch from Mr. Wednesday, and he could assure them that the deputation Jeffery on the previous day, to read the conclusion, which were not prepared to accede to terms that would be said that " Turner must be turned out." detrimental to the dock estate, any more than to the Mr. STEWART indignantly denied that any such words Corpora I m of Liverpool. What damage could be sus. were contained in the despatch. trifled by a short adjournment Et On the other hand great Mr. JEFFERY read the whole of the despatch, which was dam ge would be sustained if they proceeded to the —" It is very important that there should be no Council election that day, and for the reasons which he had to-day. Let it be a count-out. Keep the members out of stated. Under other circumstances, he believed Mr. the room; then let a requisition be prese n t e d t o the M a y or Turner would be unanimously elected, but it could not for a meeting on Saturday. I hope something will be be so on that day. Mr. Turner should have settled to-day." been in London on Wednesday, and by his absene he Mr. PARKER withdrew the accusation. paralysed the proceedings of his legal adviser. He believed Mr. BERNARD HALL defended the conduct of the four their opponeats would close their case that morning. It gentlemen who voted for themselves, and stated that on was intended that the Dock Committee's proceedings should one occasion Mr. Woodruff voted for himself, as alderman, be then first entered on, and he believed he was right in (Laughter.) stating that it was intended Mr. Turner should be the first Mr. GRAVES expressed his regret that the longer the witness put into the chair. But be that as it might, every question was discussed, the more it narrowed into a member woald agree with him (Mr. Jeffery) that no' pro- personal matter. He denied, in an eloquent address, that ceediags, on behalf of the Dock Committee, should be the commercial interest of the town was opposed to the conducted in London without the presence of the chairman interests of the Corporation, and pointed to the fact that a of that committee. (Hear, hear.) Mr. North's proceedings petition, siened by about 3,000 merchants, bankers, and were therefore paralysed by Mr. Turner's absence. And others, had been presented hi support of the rights of the what might be the consequence of that ? Why, if the Corporation. Corporation were not ready, it might be supposed that, as Mr. Satero maintained that Mr. Turner did not possess in the Commons, they had withd rawn from th e con t es t, the confidence of the majority of the Council. It was not and the committee would be called on to come to a con- usual in deliberative assemblies for gentlemen to vote for elusion. What, then, would be their position if the bill passed themselves. It was true they had a right to do so, but it 'in its present form ? The (lock estate would take over the was a right not usually exercised. The divisions of that Birkenhead estate at cost price ; but in the bill there was a day and the previous were eighteen to nineteen generally. clause which gave a parliamentary title to the Great Western According to the common usage, striking out the votes Railway Company'a cl a im f or a l ease — a c l a i m w hi ch, if o f t h e f our gent l emen who voted or themselves, granted, would be the most damaging thing that could there would be found a majority of three occur to that portion of the dock estate called the Birken- against them. (Hear, hear.) Would any man pretend head Docks. (Hear, hear.) Then what was Mr. Turner's to say that that was a vote which ought to be satisfactory duty on that occasion ? (Hear, hear.) He would leave to the minds of gentlemen so circumstanced. He demanded the Council to answer the question. Mr. Jeffery then to know if the gentlemen who had come down from Lon pointed out that by the bill, if passed, they would only don did not come in consequence of a telegraphic despatch, receive the paltry compensation of £600,000 for a revenue telling them what had taken place, and that it was o f th e of £150,000 a year, and obs erve d t h at i t would b e a loss of utmost importance they should be in Liverpool that day to £700,000 as compared with the arrangement attempted to vote against the adjournment? • be come to. He eu'ogised the services of the Town Clerk, Mr. Alderman CooPER said, as one of those referred to, who, he said, during the last four months had not got he had not como down for that reason.. four hours rest each night, so employed was he with their Mr. SHEIL said he did not ask whether it was for that businers; and concluded by calling oa the Council to reason Mr. Cooper came down. Its asked whether such a adjourn, telegraphic despatch had not been seat up to them ? Mr. TOBIN said he was desirous to follow the course No answer was given to this question, so far as we could marked out by Mr. Jeffery, and to avoid entering upon any hear. part of the question which might be considered dangerous. Mr. Slam said, Mr. TURNER had taken so much pains Their proceedings were all sent forth to the world, but in telling of his own purity, and of the extraordinary nothing was heardof the proceedings of their opponeats. exertions he had made to defend, protect, and forward the But when misrepresentation were made—he did not say interests of the town, that one almost felt inclined to doubt wilfully—when mis-statements were made, be thought it it , (Laughter.) He wondered whether Mr. T urner h a d was obligatory on him to en d eavour to aut matters right, ever real Peregrine Pickle. There was a story in that book and with that feeling he felt called upon to make some of two ladies travelling together, one of whom was not statements, as well as to reply to one or two remarks made the most perfectly pure, but during the whole of by Mr. Jeffery. Mr. Jeffery had stated that the depute- the journey, sha never ceased for one moment to aninead tion in London, would be powerless if they were to re-elect vert in the strongest terms upoa the conduct of other Mr. Turner, and that the deputation might as well return People, and to declare how pure and immaculate she was to Liverpool. Now, so far from that being the fact, it herself. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) The impression appeared to him—and he was present in London during which come to the mind of the hearers, when a man most of the discussions—that the desire of the gentlemen made such protestations, often was that he .had great of the deputation was, that Mr. Turner should come up to difficulty in persuadieg himself of the truth of his state- London, with thelnembers of the Dock Committee, int- meats. (Laughter.) mediately. That did not appear as if the deputation would Mr. BANNER centen led, that nothing of what had be powerless if Mr. Turner was re-elected. (Hear, hear.) happened would have occurred if Mr. Turner had in the It appeared to him that many of the arguments used by Mr. first instance gracefully acceded to the proposal for Jeffery were entirely damaging to his own course of pre- adjounment. eeeding. (Heir, hear.) Mr. Jtifery stated that Mr. After some farther discussion the motion for adjourn. Turner ought to have been in London the previous day— went was put, when there appeared : that the opposition of the dock trustees to the Conservancy For the adjournment—Aldermen Benn:tt, Preston, Bill could not be carried on without the presence of their Dover, and Gardner; Councillors Crosthwaite, Stitt, chairman—that Mr. North, the solicitor, was paralysed by Stewart, Sheil, Woodruff, LE tydock, M•Gaffie, Gedfrey, his absence: Mr. Jeffery asked if the fate of the bill S'eains, Butner, Fernihough, Johnson, J. R. Jeffery, depended upon Mr. Turner's presence; what would be his Kitchen, Hodson, Mellor, and Beckwith-21. position supposing it became the law of the land in his Against the adjournment —The Mayor • Aldermen Chil. absence. All this, surely, p rove d most c l ear l y, i f anything ton, G. H. H ors f a ll, P ar k er , Robinson, Mayor; Houghton, could, that it was their bounden duty, as a council, to elect Toulmin, and Hohne; Councillors Tyrer, Turner, Living- Mr. Turner at rnce to the Dock Committee, in order that stone, G ayes, Wagstaff, Lawrence, Sh an d, B ranc k er , that body might have their r ecogn i se d h ea d , t h e i r c h a i r- Tobi n , F arnwor th, Robortson, and Hall-21. man, to represent their estate in parliament. The dock The Mayon gave his casting vote against the adjourn trustees were opponents of' the bill ; and if their solicitor, went. Mr. North, was to be paralysed by the absence of Mr. Mr. TURNER asked what the Council now wished him Turner; then he asked, was it the duty of the Council to to do ? In what situation did they wish to place bim ? continue him in that paralysed state, or to give him a They had heard what was quite true, from Mr. Jeffery, chairman to consult with on th e p rrcee di ngs ? I t ap- that he ought to b e i n L on d on t h a t d ay—that.he ought to peered to him that nothing could be clearer than that have been there the previous day. He felt, however, that Mr. Turner ought to be in London ; and after the pro- under the circumstances, he could. not ga up to London eeedings which had taken place, could Mr. Turner proceed as tho representative of the Dock Committee. to London as the chairman of the Dock Committee? It Mr. ROBIN3ON said that after the expression of opinion had been stated by Mr. Jeffery that probably the first wit- which had been given, he should consider it indelicate for ness called by the Dock Committee would be Mr. Turner him to vote at all in any other dividion upon the subject. himself. What would be his position upon being put into Mr. Toneer said it was quire clear that no result could be the box? He would be asked, "Ar e you the chairman of alaineh. If a certain number of gentlemen were deter the Dock Committee—do you represent that body ?" H e mined that they would proceed to move successive adjourn must say, "I am chairman of the Dock Committee, legally mente day after day, it was quite clear that although the speaking, perhaps; but the Corporation having misgivings other side might have repeated victories, yet no possible in reference to my being a suitable person to go down and result could be reached. Ile thought that an unfortunate take a seat there, they have refused to re-elect me." I, state of things, and one which cast somewhat of a slur upon what position would Mr. Turner then stand, when he ap- municipal institutions. (Hear, hear, and " No, .no.") peered before the House of Lords ? Any influence he However, as it was now stated that there was not the might otherwise possess, as chairman of the Dock Corn- slightest want of confi tepee intended to be conveyed to rnittee, in opposing that iniquitous bill,would be entirely Mr. Turner, he thought it better that the Canned should destroyed. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Jeffery had stated that if adjourn until Saturday. (Hear, hear.) What it was the bill passed the Corporation would receive but £600,000, which was to occur between that day and Saturday to and would suffer a loss of £700,000; and if there was any relieve all objection and difficulty, he did not know, but inference to be drawn from that, it was that me. Turner under the circumstances he hoped the Council would would be in favour of such a confiscation of the Corpora- agree to that course. (Hear, beer.) Ha therefore moved Lion property. But he (Mr. Tobin) could say distinctly— that the Coancil do adj , urn until Saturday. having been frequently in London during the proceedings Mr. TURNER hoped that gentlemen would clearly under -that no man had stood up more for the rights of the stand, that when they assembled on Saturday, they would Corporation, with reference to the Town Dues, than Mr. not again be met by any motions for adjournment. Turner. (Hear.) It had been alleged the previous day Mr. Baciewtme said he would give no pledge to that that the interests of the Dick Committee and the Corpo- effect. ration were antagonistic. But, as he had shown the Mr. TURNER said, although no pledge was given, he previous day, the Dock Committee unanimously approved hoped there would be a general understanding that when of the terms which had been agreed upon, as it were the Council met on Saturday it it ould be for the despatch under comp lsior, by the Corporation, as to the amount of of business. (Hear hear.) £1,500,000. Any man must see that if lee were asked Mr. JEFFERY hoped Mr. Turner would, in the mean whether it would be better for his own interests to pur- time, agree to go up to London, and act as chairman of chase property for £600,000 than for £1,500,000, there the committee. could be but one answer. But the Dock Committee, like Mr. TURNER said he could mot, with any sense of self. s'raightforward and h o no ura bl e men , s t ate d at once, t h at respect, consider it consist en t w i t h hi s d uty to himself, or although as an abstract question, it might be for the to the office he held, and still had the honour legally to interests of the dock estate, they were not desirous, and hold, c msent to act as chairman of the Dock Committee, would not be parties to receiving any advantage at the Fx- while his election was still undecided. pence of the Corporation. (Hear, hear.) They declared that At this moment a telegraphic despatch was put into the they would be no parties to the confiscation of the property baud of his Worsh Mayor, who immediately rose of the. Corporation, and he believed a very much larger and read it to the cos Council. It was as follows : amount of compensation would have been cheerfully ac- TELEGRAPHIC DESPATCH. coded to by the dock estate if it had been so directed by Committee (of House of Lords) have just come to the the B tard of Trade. (Hear, hear.) following resolution : 'That the Committee will not take Mn STITT urged that the responsibility of any injury which might arise from the discussions which had taken up )n themselves to adjudicate upon the case of the Corpo. place, should rest noon those who had originally opposed ration of Liverpool in respect of the Town Dues, and the the adjournment. He contended that the statements made alleged rights to apply the income thereof either in whole by Mr. Jeffery jus ified the course which the supporters of tee adjournment were now taking. or in part to purposes other than the maintainance a n d Mr. Alderman COOPER stated that th ere was no o bj ection improvement of the port. The Committee, th ere f ore, whatever it the minds of the deputation in Landon to the will not sanction the transfer of such Town Dues to the re-election taking place the previous day. He remarked that ' trust proposed to be created by this bill, without some pro the object which was dreaded was such a discussion as that vision that shall secare to the Corporation such fair and which Lai taken place, and which made the Council the laughing-stock of the public, equitable compensation as may now be agreed upon by the Mr. A. C. STEWART thought it very strange, that while parties, or that siren leave the question of compensation to all the members of the deputation present appeared to be determined by th e decision o f a C our t of Lair, upon the I agree, that it w as d es i ra bl e t h ere s h ou ld h ave b een no primary settlement of such rights, and the liabilities Council whatever the previous day, the telegraphic, despatch which came d own f rom t h e T own Cl er k, s t ate d that attaching thereto." Keep the C ounc il t oget h er f or th e certain business was to be done and no more. It would present. I seem that the dep u t a ti on was not qu i te unan i mous. If Lend applause followed the reading of this document. the Council had been made a laughing-stock it was the , Mr. JEFFERY hoped the Council would now do justice to conduct of Mr. Cooper's party, who opposed the first the gentlemen who thought with himself, and who adjournment, which bad made it so. (Sear, hear.) The thought it prudent to send the telegraphic message yesterday. He thought there could be no doubt whatever that that resolution was arrived at in consequence of a communication made the previous day, among other com munications, to the B)ard of Trade. ff not a single word had been said the previous day, more gratification would be fe!t at the reception of that despatch than could be felt now after such a warm debate. Mr. TYaER desired t) say that the deputation consisted of three members of the Doc r Committee, Mr. JEFFERY : If you say one, word more, Mr. Tyrer, I shall state what occurred yesterday. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) I shall make a clean breast of it, if you say one word more. Mr. Alderman Trouts said, it was with a knowledge that these negociations were pending►, and a desire that nothing should occur in the Council which could show to their opponents the slightest difference of opinion, that he was anxious yesterday that the Council should adjourn without any discussion. That was his sole reason, and he trusted that when they met on Saturday there would be no more adjournments, bat that they would be all prepared, as he would be, to vote for the four gentlemen who had so honourably and manfully performed their duties at the Dock Committee. (Hear, hear.) He could only now echo the sentiment of Cobbett, and say, " Thank God we have a House of Lords." (Hear, hear, and applause.) It was then agreed that the election of D ock Committee members should be postponed to Saturday next at eleven o'clock. The Council proceeded with the ordinary business: The proceadins of the Watch, Courts of Law, Markets, Education, and Gaol and House of Correction Committees were read and confirmed, without any discussion of im portarce. During the reading (f these proceeding:l, a second telegraphic despatch from Londort was received by the Mayor, requesting that the Council woull re-assemble at eight o'clock at night. HEALTH C)MMITTEE. The proceedings of this committee were read. They comprised, "Recommendation that the borough engineer do prepare plans for proposed public offices and other im provements in Da'e-street." " Recommendation that the Council direct a prosecution to be instituted against the parties who have committed indictable offences in connec tion with the Necropolis." The first recommendation was confirmed. Mr. Slum moved that the second recommendation be confirmed. Mr. BECK WITH seconded the motion. Mr. Alderman BENNETT : Has it been properly consi dered ? Mr. BECKWITH : It has. Mr. Alderman BENNErT: where will it end,' both as regards cost and character? I do treat we shall hesitate before we take this step. Mr. WOODRUFF: The Health Committee maturely con sidered the q restion before they male this recommendation to the Coined. (Hear, hear.) There is not a gentleman present who is not aware of all the circumstances that led to the investigation by the Health Committee—not one present who is not aware of the gross indecency perpe trated at the Necropolis—(hear; hear) —not one present wbo will be bold enough to get up and say that the parties who have been guilty ought not to be punished, as an example to others. Are we the tribunal to allow such parties to escape punishment ? Is the Health Committee, or rather the Town Council of Liverpool, to be the first to get up and deliberately try to whitewash those men, be they who they may, who have permitted such a state of things to exist? We shall be the scoff and bye-word of the com munity if we attempt to do so, and will deserve the dis grace that should attach to such an act of infamy. (hear, hear.) We would be worse than the men guilty of such acts if we attempted to screen them. It has been proved that proceedings took place at the Necropolis which were prejudicial to the public health. It has been proved that they interrea bodies in single graves, and then, when the relatives had turned their backs, pulled the bodies up, and cast them into a common pit. It has been proved that they afterwards dug out those common graves where thirty or forty bodies had been buried, and re-sold the ground for new graves. Is that a state of things von can permit, or yeeticre the propriety of such a prosecution ? The Health. Committee have taken the greatest trouble in the matter. They have takon t-11 the evidence and laid it before counsel, and they have counsel's opinion that a prosecution will lie. I am not sure whether the parties were not named, but they were advised that a posecution will lie. I wish to remind the Council that a large meeting of the friends of those whose remains were so desecrated took place, and that if they had not received the strongest assurance that the guilty parties would be brought to jastice, he would not answer for the consequences. Public decency has been outraged, and I trust the Council will not set a bad example by screening the Offenders. (Hear, hear.) Mr. J. R. JEFFERY thought this was a most important question, and that they wanted information to enable them to come to a right conclusion. It was a question with him whether they were the tribunal to judge of what had been done or what had not been done. It was a question with hi m . whether they were the parties to prosecute. The property was private property. Individuate were interested, and it was a question whether such individuals should not prosecute their interest in a court of law. If a pro•ecution would lie, it appeared to him that the government were the parties who should take it up. It was they issued the order in council, and if that order was dis obeyel, and the government did not think fit to prosecute, was it theirs (the Council's) duty to become the public prosecutors in the ca , e, and place themserves in a most inviduous position ? He should like to know the law of the case. Mr. Borax./ assured the Council that the subject had bean mast fully considered by the committee, and that they had taken counsel's opinion on the matter. Mr. C. TURVEIt asked if there was any precedent for such a prosecution? It behoved them to consider how they began a prosecution of the kind. The DEPUTY Tower-Ceaux (Nle. Hughes) replied that he did not know of any prevalent bearing on the case. The act of Parliament for regulating burials within the borough of Liverpool was referred to the care of the Health Committee. They took proceedings to put down all nuisances, and punish the parties guilty of offences against the sanitary acts; and htpresumed this case stood in the some position. Mr. PtcroN should like to see the case put to counsel. That there had been offences committed against public decency there could be no doubt, but it was a serious question what stand the Council should take in the matter. He would suggest that it be deferred for a month. Mr. JOHNSON said the Committee were guided by their Lew-Clerk in the matter. Mr. BANNER concurred with Mr. Picton, that the matter should be deferred. Mr. HALL said that undoubtedly gross outrag , s had been committed, and it would be a great misfortune if in such a glaring case an step was taken by the counsel. He for one would vote for the prosecution, beleving that they would alike a great mistake if they were lenient in the matter. Mr. FERNIHOUGFI said they would lay themselves open to censure, if they shrinked in the matter. He was not inclined to flinch, because, if there was one thing to be abhorred more than another, it was the violation of the remains of their friends, and the throwing of their bones about like those of dogs. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Alderman PARKER thought they ought to b 3 a little merciful, and that nothing would be gained by going to the extreme penalty of the law. Mr. ANDERSON agreed with those who recommended caution. Mr. Alderman Iforma said :they should first ask, had an outrage been committed ? Had public decency been vio lated ? There could be no question about that. An offence had been committed, and if it was indictable the parties ought to be prosecuted. If it was not the duty of the Council to prosecute, whose duty was it? It- would be a bad case for those individuals whose friends had been disinterred and cast into a charnel house, if the expense of the prosecution were thrown on them. He looked at the matter with impartial eyes ; and, as he be lieved it was the duty of the committee to move in it, he should most reluctantly give them his support. Mr. Sum, said that nothing but an imperative duty could have induced the Health Committee to recommend the prosecution. The recommendation was then pet and carried nein con. The general proceedings were then confirmed, as were also those of the gardens' committee. CHURCH EXPENDITURE COMMITTEE. The proceedings of this committee were read. They comprised—" Recommendation to appoint Mr. W. G. Bodily, assistant pew opener in the gallery of St. Michael's Church, al the wages of 2s 6d per week." " Recommen dation to authorise repairs to St. Michael's-.estimated cost £250." The first recommendation was rejected on a division. The other proceedings were confirmed. The Council adjourned to 8 o'clock. THE EVENING surrlNG. The council re-assembled at eight o'clock, in the concert room. In addition to the members present in tile day, and others, Mr. James Heinle, who had just arrived from Lcn ion, entered the room. The Mayor took the chair. Mr. BRANCKER said, as the business they had to transact that night was of a very peculiar character, he thought it very desirable for th e i n t eres t s , no t on l y Of the council, but of the whole community wham they repres?nted, that the council should now resolve itself into a committee. He therefore moved a resolution to that effect. Mr. ANTHONY seconded the motion. Mr. BECKWITH: I presume you mean by that, that the reporters ba requested to withdraw ? Mr. BRANCKER The motion carries that along with it. (Rear, hear.) ,The motion was then carried unanimously, and at the request of the Mayor, the reporters withdrew. The council having resolved themselves into a com- 1 1 mitten, they proceeded to consid er th e p r oPosainl l i l : tl had been made by the deputation i n L o ndon, r , O- tise settlement of matters in dispute on th e Mersey vane) , Bill, and unanimously agreed to stIPIV,".4 deputation. On the motion of Mr. Pi c t on , seco nded Pl t Beckwith, Messrs. Chas. T urner , T. D. A n d erso n, et , a and Robinson were then:unanimou s ly re - e l ec t e d mem of the dock committee. t. to TOXTETH-PARK BOARD OF GUARDIANS' The usual weekly meeting of this board vg as ; l3 ti; yesterday evening. William H enr y H ors f a ll, ' s al ohair. The other Guardia ns p resen t were „ Ewing, Robinson, ,Briscoe, Mercer, Alpass, Pickulh Batton. The board, after disposing of th e app li ca ti on s for o ut door relief and other preliminary business, went int ° general business. 1,140 Mr. Gough, the mast er of the:West Derby Wor-- - 4 10l read-an abstract of the o ld and infirm persons bel°o , to the union, now in the workhouse, requiring relief , oi the usual orders were made. A letter was read fr °ra el , Poor Law Board, approvi ng o f th e meet i ngs bein,,, led weekly on Thursdays, at th ree o ' c l oc k ; an d ano ther 10 enclosing the rules, as already laid down in regal vaccination, which was issued by th e b oar d i n 18' ' that subject. oid A letter was read f rom th e P oor Law - v stating that the appointment of. Mr. Cleaver' dl clerk, could not be sa nc ti one d, i nasmuc h as he a,"'siio held the office of clerk at the West Darby Union , Atli other appointments, and th a t suc h m i g ht_Li n t er fere," the performance of his duties. ffe er i A question arose as to th e sa l ar y of the-relieving P 5 0 and Mr. Batten moved as an amen d ment, on a InIV Mr. Alpass, that the s a l ary b e £ 159 instead IN a year. f r o io o It was stated that th e sa l ar y i n t h e West Derby„g4 for the officers was £l3O, and th a t th e P oor L a w 0 " refused to sanction any advance on that sum. fi as A. short discussion took,place, and the amendmentwithdrawn. •te l Mr. Alpass then moved th a t;M r. B arnett be - apP °l ; as relieving officer, and th a t a second officer be adve rts for in the Liverpool papers. The first was a notice of motion,:and the seal positive motion. The motions were adopted. nt CA In regard to the l e tt er re f err i ng to the appointrne Mr. ,Cleaver, as clerk, a letter was read, a c o py of I'?ri o ri, had been sent to the Poor Law Board by Mr. John W li p , of Mill-street, objecting to the appointment _of er gl Cleaver, :on the ground that he already, holds , • . offices. to in re s The Chairman asked what:the board would do , rt ll to the non -sanction of the ' Poor Law Board appointment of Mr. Cleaver ? ,„ 4 39 Mr. Batton re gre tt e d the differenee that had arisen with the Poor Law Board, and contended tha,'," t ilo Cleaver should be- retain e d, an d th at _ th e b oar d sa r , a ii respectfully decline to be governed b y th e Poor ' tg Board in London, add that there were misstateme n dol Mr. Wilson's letter. He would move that the 1 - I ` ) ,/ 01 0 board be reminded that the b oar d h a d . cons id ere d 31 of' points, and that the appointment of Mr. Cleaver wa s se' culated to render the board much information in quence of his great experience. Mr. Alpass seconded the motion. nt Mr. Briscoe said h e wou ld not o bj ect to t h e aPr , ci sf: ment of Mr. Cleaver, provided he gave up his °thecae/ pointments, and after some observations he suhni l t pl' that the affair o ug ht t o b e resc i n d ed, and it Was 01l t mately agreed to refer th e ma tt er f or di scuss ion t rill future day, and then, if necessary , t o ta k e a resee'oo stand in regard to the London board to sustain appointment. f t b6 It was then agreed to a c k now l e d ge th e rece ipt °, letter, and let the matter stand over to next board o % e r Mr. Alpass moved that th e c l er k b e di recte d t o _ au tise for contracts for coffins—carried. Some other routine business was then transacted , the board adjourned at nearly 7 o'clocE. DOCK COMMITTEE. 14 81° The usual weekly meeting : o f this enrnmitteri was ale' at one o'clock yesterday, i n the D.)ck Offices, Mr. Br, ° ", si f bank in the chair. Oth er mem b ers present--Medelt Palmer, Rounthwaite, Barber, W. Rathb one , jun., )- Itubback, Smith, and L oc k e t. 00 11 The minutes of the last meeting were rea d and firmed. The marine sub - committee recommended that tl/ additional bedrooms be made to the residence of A keeper of the telegraph at Great Orme's Heal, at a Co of £lOO. The reconamendation was cnnifirmed. 4 ,05, A letter was read from the Collector of Cus' hil d stating that it would b e a grea t conven i ence if gag Prate were laid in the Nelson Dock depot.—Referred to works committee. This concluded the general business Mr. Barber hoped it would no t go ou t to the Pua bli r C . the committee had selected their ch a i r man. 4". Brocklebank was simply the chairman pro tens. f Some conversation took place as to the power 0 committee to select a chairman before the election members by the council was made. Tho Solicitor explaine I that Mr. Glades Turner, t o the other out-going gentleman conti nue d mem bers or dock corn- 'V it ,otnte committtee until their successors were apPL., t he They, therefore, might proceed t o th e e l ec ti on , but gentleman chosen was not re-elected by the council, tb should, on a subsequent day, elect another chairman' ,tr, Mr. Smith : Then . it is competent for us to elec t '- Turner. Solicitor : Yes. Mr. Rathbone : Whoever we now elect] will, of c° o r as a gentleman, feel bound t o res i gn on t h e fi rs t oPP tunity, in order that the election may then be 5 ,1018 full committee. An election by seven mem b ers ca nnot taken as the vote of the full committee. alf' The committee then suspended the business until - t o past three o'clock to see if the Council would, in w ill mean time, proceed to the election of members. As re be seen by our report of th e T own c ounc il r „ ceedings, the election was postponed ; an d the ev ri e l, i mittee, on reassembling at half past th ree o c lock, 0 elected Mr. Charles Turner as chairman, and Mr. rank as vice-chairman. MR, BRIGHT FOR BIRMINGHAM. The immense majority in favour of Mr. Bright, at of town's meeting, on Tuesday, has produced a great an l n B of interest and labour in his behalf, and correspona:A., hopelessness on the part of Mr. Webster's friends. Yee ,7 0 1 day afternoon, advantage was t a k en o f t h e disgrac'o, attempt to split the liberals, and a to r y i s now i n the field, in the person of Mr. M'Gea c hy, o f Il er t s , a ge ntlera:, totally unknown to, and unconnected with the t 073 On Wednesday numerous di s t r i c t meetings, convert by the aldermen of the various wards, were held, at' at each of them resolutions sapporting Mr. Bciga tbo nomination were unanimou,ly carried. D ur i n g . i . O day, a deputation of electors waited. upon Mr. Webst er and advised that gentleman of the suicidal policy he 71 pursuing, and begged that he wo u ld un it e t h e w h o l e liber: 4 party by withdrawing his name . Th e d epu t at i on W lO courteously received ; but Mr. W e bste r d ec lined to g, 1 4 an immediate answer. Th ere i s littl e d ou b t b u t that Ph . : name will be withheld on the day of nomination, as up the present hour he stands not the slightest chance of suh cessfully opposing the anti-Palmerstonian feeling whj e e will eventually place Mr. Bight's name at the head of poll, if there should be one. The canvassing has be', going on with vigour, and the promises for Mr. Bright It r o most prolific; and in the most aristocratic quarter bi odds are forty to two in favour of the great lib:ral Chem , pion. Mr. Bright's committee have issued the folloW address : TO THE ELECTORS OF THE BOROUGH OF BIRMINCIAI 4 . Gentleman,—The committee for securing the return of f t ' . , John Bright, have brought hi m f orwar d as a can did a te l er a your votes, because they believe him to be the best quali 6 „ e . person to promote the interests o f t h e lib era l cause in parr-d, meat. At a time when a new reform bill has been prornise h ; and when the liberal party require a m an t o l ea d t h em in t 'a struggle which will be necessary to make that bill a real 3n . efficient erre, the people of Birmin g h am w ill b e per f or ming; national duty in securing his return. The committee W e ' t deeply impressed with this feeling, but they determined n e o (even for the sake of a candidate so worthy) to incur the char s of an attempt at di c tation. They th ere f ore appea l e d to tPi town itself. That appeal, was made to a m ee ti ng cons i s ting of at least 8,000 persons, the whole of whom, w ith th e exception h about 100, declared for Mr. Right. This was a response wil' c will insure success for him who is now the people's candida te ' The political opinions of Mr. Bri g ht aro t oo well known t : .11 his countrymen to need any f o r ma l s t a t emen t ; hi s o pini° and his acts aro already a pa r t o f th e h'story of the wor ld .; His advocacy of every branch of parliamentary reform ; devotion to the cause of religious liberty ; his desire to see tt the spread of national education ; his intimate acquaiutanl with Indian afftirs ; his ivell-known efforts in the cause commercial and legal impr ovemen t ; hi s unceasing attempts fn obtain a revision of the mo.hed and a reduction of the a moun of taxation; hi s opposition to all government jobs, and „ government attempts at interference with the comolare ta freedom of the people; and his unconque ra bl e independence of . action, have mule him wor.hv of th a t ex p ress i on o f the coa ti donee of the people which was so heartily given at the meet iPg on Tuesday. Let all liberals accept the vote of that meeti n g' and that no division among us give the conservative party 3 0 opportunity of obtaining a temporary victory, which will be disgrace to the town.—By order of Mr. Brigh.'s committee. Alderman LLOYD, Chairman. Alderman MANTON, Vice-Chairman . ROBERT WRIGHT, lion. Sec. Central Committee ROMP, Newsroom, Bennett's.bill, Aug. thb, 1857.