The Northern Daily Times. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1853-12-15 00:00:00

difficulties. He (Mr. Dixon) was rather surprised at that, Although in these days modern science was so extended there really were no engineering difficulties. After the Lancaster A public meeting of parties interested in this project was railway had been carried over the Shap Fells, there could yesterday held at the Angel Hotel, to receive explanations be no difficulties. (Hear, hear). B u t still their line would and information in ref erence t o th e . sc h eme , f rom a d e p u t e _ pass through a very fl a t country, and the heaviest cutting not be more than 10 feet. The railway would be tion who attended for the purpose, on behalf of the provin- ' woul d made for £5 000 a mile, and h e wou ld rem i nd gentlemen w h o cial committee. Th ere were a b ou t fift y gent l emen presen t ; were in the ' habit of reading railway papers, that Herapath and after some time, lately referred to the feet, and he said that a railway made The chair was taken by Mr. MOORE. . for £5,000 a mile, no matter where it ran to, mistake of was sure to The CHAIRMAN said that it was only a very pay ,—it could not m i ss t o pay. The great short time • • since he had been ma d e acqua i n t e d with the project, and u ;aionwat y behn, even u p on ra il ways w i th i n our own neighbour companies had b een f rom t h e enormous out l ay therefore he could not be exp e ct e d t o know much, or, indeed, anything at all of its merits. But being requested by his h oo d.I) There was th e C a l e d on i an R a i lway w hi c h actua ll y much esteemed friend Mr. Dixon, mayor of Carlisle, to at- cost £40,000 p er m il e , an d the Maryport Ra i lway cost tend at the meeting h e h a d d one s o , but he felt that he was £16,000 a mil e . H e was not qu i te certain what the Lan give them any i n f or m a tion on the matter. He should, an unfit person to fill the chair, because he was not able to caster line cost, b u t it cos t a l arge sum. H e on l y ment i one d this to show th e i r p ro j ecte d ra il way cou ld b e ma d e for £5,000 therefore, without further remark, beg leave to introd uce a mile, and th e y h a d a gent l eman rea d y t o ta k e the thin; Dixon to their notice , who would explain to them every thing connected with the undertaking. contract provisionally, t o f orm no t on ly th e ra il wa y b u t was ready to enter into a contract, the dock likewi se o - Mr. J. P. Discos, Mayor of Carlisle, th en sa id h e ap- on our getting the likewise,—who of parliament, to make the railway peered before them as one of a dep u t a ti on f rom t h e b o d y of directors of the Carlisle and Silloth Bay Railway and Dock for £5,000 a-mile. (Hear, hear.) Their estimates of traffic had been very carefully gone i n t o . Th a t was a su b- Company, which company had b een prov i s i ona ll y registered ject he would not enter into, a s hi s f r i en d Mr. Irving would for the purpose of seek ing an act o f parl i ament to ,forma Floating dock at Sill o th B ay, i n t h e S olway Frith, and to address them on that topic; . but th e y h a d gone care f u ll y i nto the traffic which they might fairlyand legitimately expect t o forma railway f r om th a t po i nt to j o i n the Port Carlisle come over their line ; and when in Newcastl e a f ew d ays railway; 'and thus form a commun i cation w i th the Newcastle and Carlisle railw a y, an d so o b ta i n a d i rect communication ago they found their calcul a ti ons cons id era b ly under the Mark. They mentioned it t o one gent l eman, who , from east to wes t across t h e narrowest part of the island. Of was specially interested and he said he would guarantee that course the estimated cost of forming this dock and making e . mount of traffic himself ; they had been anx i ous the whole this railway was not, as they would perceive, a very heavy t a upe not to overstate their facts, because they felt they had amount, £135,000, but still Carlisle though a very enter- fact t ir an d l egitimate scheme to bring before the public, in prising city, and had always made efforts to improve its po- as na tional question, and they were most anxious to eition in the commercial world, was not a wealthy coin- heyunderstate the dgone under the mark rather than above it. Taking the aid of the public in carrying out this scheme. In some iat low estimate of £2O per mile a-week, the traffic they measure it might be said to be of a local character. It certainly had to get was a t ra ffi c a great d eal of wh i ch never yet character (hear, hear was ; but we considered it was also strictly of a national and had always been very much to ad come their way, at l eas t th e great b u l k of i t. T he great be desired to form this communication between th e west ); b u lk of it had gon e roun d a th ousan d m i les b y sea to Ireland. They expected th e y s h ou ld b e able to bring coals from New coast and the east coast for many years back. Fo r a t l eas t 30 castle to Sinai:l - b a y an d s hi p t h em from thence to Ireland years we have been s(e.eing that communication. Whe n the at once. Leaving that out of the question altogether—a canal, the Carlisle canal, was formed from Carlisle to Port t raffic we never got--if we take the estimated tra ffi c which Carlisle, that was the object in view, inasmuch as as the *e have been ac cu st ome d t o get on the old canal it would canal was originally intended to be carried dire c t from show a very fair return for the money invested. They had. Carlisle to Newcastle, and a survey was made at the time. facilities at Si ll oth bay for working a floating dock, acces- To show the peculiar views entertained in those days be Bible at all times of tide, and not only so, but • they had a might mention that railways were projected at the time 'but water area in f ron t o f th e d oc k , su ffi c i ent to accommodate the impression was they could no t t rave l more th an four ;miles 200 vessels. He (M r . Di xon ) h a d th at on t h e aut h or i ty o f an hour, and therefore at th a t ti m e p rosecu ti ng the canal , I J I Mr. Geddes, who was connected with their district Trinity was thought the most advisable. But it was abandoned, hoard; and . that it was a clay bottom, and that a vessel and the canal was only formed from Carlisle to Port Carlisle. w as never known to have dragged her anchors there. The object was to form a communication between the east Even supposing the dock quite full, and a nc h or e and the west, and eventually the Newcastle and Carlisle not make the dock, the vessel could lie at a railway was formed. Since that time they had been con- in perfect safety. There was an intention to tending with natural difficulties at Port Carlisle. They make this railway from this point at the smallest possible cost, had a large body of water up to that point, .but it was only and that they connected with it a very legitimate prospect approachable at the top of the tide for vessels of a large large and i ncreased tra ffi c, and, therefore, they left it class. They had a shifting channel constantly changing r i erl th confidence in the hands . of gentlemen of a town like which made it di ffi cult for vessels of heavy burthen to ap- 1 verpool—gentlemen of enterprise, and who were so large-, preach. There was also another " very great drawback a y nd co o nnected with the . commercial interests of this country, owing to the danger of vessels taking the ground, which, likel f to whomit 'might be justly proud. They were not gentlemen, connected with shipping was a very great overlookdraw . the interests of Carlisle, because there was back to any port. They contended with this for some time, not e y town in the kingdom' would have more railways until the same project was endeavoured to be obtained at Ther they formed complete hands,net-work ;. and therefore he Maryport, to form a line with the same object in view, left it with confidence their feeling they would not In that prospectus they set forth the same thing. lt had allow a matter which shisomerespects of a local charac also been felt that Maryport was a dry harbour, and that ter—but it was also of w a a national t character—would f, not allow they had not the facilitiem there for forming a wet dock, the it to fall to the ground for wan o the most important re entrance being unfavourable, and obstructed by a considers- q 3 uisites, taking shares and giving their support to the under beyond 500 tons; except on a very high tide, so much so a few words : . that frequently after entering they were neaped, and unable . . Mr. 'ovule , said that as Mr. Dixon had detailed to them toleaVe when, required to do so. These difficulties, in con nection with difficulties they had to contend with at Port the great importance of the undertaking, it was simply for Carlisle, had latterly drawn the attention of persons inter- him to confine himself 'to the traffic department. The meet ested in the trade of Carlisle very much to the project which ing had been told of the great advantage that was likely to they had now, in view, which was to form if possible , and it arise to Carlisle an d C um b er l an d i n connecting the German was thought to be most desirable if it could be done, a ocean with the Irish sea, but the next step was that, when floating - dock, or more 'strictly speaking, a wet dock— the promoters of the present, undertaking asked for support, like one of the Liverpool docks ; and if they could they should be prepared to give full value-for any outlay in possibly have a floating dock, where vessels of large burthen investment. - He had inquired at great length with the sec could come, and be prevented taking the ground, they would retary into the traffic likely to come on the line. The be able to,carry out the views they had before them, that of foundation of their estimates was based on facts—there was forming a direct communication 'from the west to the' east. nothing theoretical or speculative about it—and therefore he For this project they, selected a locality in the Solway Frith, could say with confidence that every gentleman relying on which had all the facilities necessary for forming a floating his estimate of the traffic would find that the result bore out dock. The entrance to it was approachable at all times of what he stated. At N ewcas tl e th ere were severa l a lk a li manu the tide. He would mention, to show its superiority over factories, and for the purpose of carrying them on success- Maryport, there was more 'water in Silloth bay at low fully, salt and sulphur ore were much required. The one water in spring tides, than they had at Maryport, in an was brought from Cheshire, and the other from Wicklow ; ordinary 18 feet tide. From ;the plans it would be seen and from the closest inquiries they had m a d e th e y f oun d .the there was never less than 18 feet of water sometimes 24 ; charges put upon those good s conveye d f rom those points and over the bar, in the shall ow est places ;here were 13 feet to the Tyne, we re suc h as wou ld ena bl e them to bring the into Silloth fl oods along by sea t o Sill o th b ay, per screw steamer or sail bayat-low water ; and therefore a vessel entering could float at anchor at all times of the tide. ing vessel, and then along the railway to Newcastle, at a The Citarearasi : There is 18 feet at the lOw water of a cost sufficient to compensate them for the trouble. They could spring tide. - ' - - take the articles of salt and pyrites at something like 2d Mr. DIXON :At the low water of a spring tide over the per ton per mile, This figure might seem a little starling, Da , khsr were 13 feet of water - and at neap tides there for on most lines in the kingdom the cha r ge was cons id era bly s were 18 feet. -1. u,; .x.. 1.14 laid' d ' Own - on'the plans was the over id ; but the advantage which they- possessed ov,ir all depth at low water as taken at sprin g adv.. 1,4 show tie others was the low cost o f th e i r li ne. Th ey wou ld ta k e t h ose immense advantag e which .a dock, from the depth of t .i. e ' ....•-•-, .-- -. 7,..-t. ,- ..uric,.uric, il n t yr' , •u all LIM ebtolfiliti, . ... ...., , ..„ 6 ,... __A., i„...,..:... pinuial nay, over treat at Maryport, he WU, 00 tons, the receipt would be in those alo ne , £2,500 might mention a fact which was stated- publicly five y ears per annum. An o th er art i c l e o f traff i c was coal, which, ago in a letter which he (Mr. Dixon) h a d th e h onor to a d- calculated very l ow , was 15 0,000 tons annually 'There dress to one of the local papers on the, su bj ec t. T wo vessels , were at present t wo compan i es under contract for supplying Ireland with 100,000 t ons o f coal, independ, nt of that for leaving Liverpool at the same time, one b oun d f or M aryport and the other for any point in Silloth bay th a t t h e passen household purposes, and i n d epen d ent of that supplied from - gers hound to Silloth bay woeld be 100 miles inland b e f ore Lord Carlisle's South Tyne a nd Bl ea ki ns , pi pits. 'They even the vessel bound to Maryport could . go . i n t o took this at the low average of ? T A. per miie, and 9d. per ton berth. This was a feet stated, five years ago, and fair the whole line. These estimates as to salt, and coal, and sulphur, they had s h own t o gent l emen connected with it remained as it. was stated. Their steamers engaged in trading from ,Liverpool to Port C ar li s l e , : f or t h e these trades, and we re f u ll y b orne out b y t h em in those esti last thirty , years, had also to go into Silloth bay for mates. Mr. Cookson, connected with the Mickley colliery, nearly three hours,, generally for two hours and , a half, under contract for supplying a large quantity to Ireland, before , they could get up to Port Carlisle, and, therefor; thought they would send for more than the estimate. And the passengers by that steamer, might have been at Newcas- taking that at id. per ton per mile, they would have an tie before the steamer could even a rr i ve a t th e quay at P ort annual yi e ld o f £5 , 625 . Then they had a trade in alabaster Cirlisle. The detention, .therefore was very considerable ; slate, and timber to th e ex t en t o f 30 , 0 0 0 tons, w hi c h , w i th la but y making Silloth bay o ur t erm i nus , t h at detention th e trade between Liverpool and Port Carlisle, and Liver wonld,,be entirely done away with.. Of course in forming ' Pool land Ireland and Newc as tl e m i g ht be fair ly , estimated at 60,000 tons ann ua lly. Th e i r passengers, both by steamer the, floating dock at any given point, it i s most desirable that gentlemen should most fully understand the entrance to it and rail they took at 66,000, who would yield £3,ooo—so that was g?od, that it was not only so now, but it had been from the whole receipts their estimated traffic would give them time Immemorial. They could produce evidence to prove, £16,131. As to the dock, they took the amount of tonnage corn that the present depth of water in Silloth bay, had no t mate- ing into and going outiof th e h ar b our at 200,000 tons, which rially altered, they would say for the last 200 years. The .at 6d. per ton would produce £5,000 annually. He thought captain, of the Newcastle eteamer, who no doubt was well they were quite safe in this estimate, because in the dry known to many gentlemen present, navigated the S o l way harbours in Cumberland, where vessels only entered at high Frith fpr a considerable number of years between Liver- water the same rate was charged. They were thereforeperfectly pool and Port Carlisle,—and the father of the late captain safe in that charge ;so that their total estimated receipts of that vessel, Mr. Logan, who was now living, a man up - would be £21,000. Taking the working charge of the rail wards of 90 years of age, who had navigated no small coast . way at 50 per cent, which was quite ample, and the expen ' ing vessels between this port, Port Carhsle, and Annan, said sex of wo r ki ng t h e d ock at £750, their total expenditure to the best of his recollection, and he gave it is hi s own would be £8,815, which deducted from their gross receipts words, that the depth, of water in Silloth bay -had been 'would le ave a nit annual p rofit of £12,315 ; and their always as it is now ' • that he could always run there at dead capital being £135,000, th eir net pro fi t wou ld a ff or d th em IoW water, and in stormy weather he always knew it to be a dividend of 9 per cent., with a sma ll s u r plus. Now let *place to fall back upon. This man's grandfather, who them try the' profit by another test. He believed that died at the Agt say they could produce a man of the present eof 95, also bore evidence to the same fact, throughout the the entire ki ng d om t h ere were f ew li nes th at and,they mig ht paid under £25 per mile per wee k, w i t h th e except i on o f t h e East Anglian ; b u t t a ki ng the receipts on the railway at day, to give evidence, going back 200 years. They found by referring to the history pf their own county, to Hutchins' his- £lO per mile per week, and allowing the same working tory of Cumberland e ,he there states,:at the time of Edward charges, (50 per cent), their net prefits would still afford them a dividend of 5 p er cent. This did not take into ac- VI. this very locality was made available by Edward VI. when he went over ,to Scotland. He had several ships at count the amount receive d f rom dues at the dock ; so that that tiine. He did not mention their tonnage, but he did I taking all things into consideration, the project might be the-'number of men they carried, clearly showing they must i considered a very saf e i nves t ment. Another important have been vessels of a considerable size, and drawing a con- matter bearing on the undertaking which Mr. Dixon had siderable depth of water. Of, course they had no means of not alluded to, he would men ti on. H e, b el i eved it was in knoWing it was,l the. same, but at any rate it was deep water tended by a number of g en tl emen a t H aw i c k and Galashiels— at that time. They had proof to show the water in Solway extensive agricultural districts and woollen manufactures— to run a line of railw a y f rom the North British at Ha w i c k Frith had not decreased from, that time; for in December 1 to Carlisle. Now he b e li eve d t h at t h e gentlemen in those last they had two very heavy storms, and the water rose to a 1 localities were very muc h c o nnecte d w i th the Credo of Liver away,ooniUtcrablp hei g ht, andl.4...pa on th e s h ore were washed , Which had been known, t o b e s t an di ng f or ti me i mme pool. They requi re d a grea t many o f the articles that were - mortal', showing there had been no decrease ; but some per- imported into this port, and on the other' hand they required sons in some localities we re t r yi ng t o s h ow th ere was a I an outlet not only to th e Li verpoo l , b ut to the various other Lancashire markets f or th e i r manu fa cturers; and so impor graelual decrease of water in th e. S o l wa y Frith. He men- ! tionid, this to show the r e was no d ecrease in the body of tent was this matte r regar d e d b y t h e Duke of Buccleuch water flowing up the Solway ,Frith. Referring to what he that they were enabled to make arrangements with him for wished to show, and to i m p ress on th e gen tl emen present - the purchase of his l an d a t a very small cost. The line they had had from time immemorial always sufficient depth to which he had alluded would run for 25 miles through of water in Silloth bay as they now had. As they projected that nobleman's land, and also through Sir James Graham's the making of a floating dock they took the opinion of Mr. property, and it would have the support of both those gentle- Hartley, of Liverpool, and he (Mr. Dixon) was present with men. that line would be connected with the present line, him when he inspected the site, and ho projects, in laying and would consequently render it the more important. down the dock, no( to interfere with the water in any way.. There was again an extensive district of country running in The fault committed in the Solway Frith, and at Whitehaven the northern direction from Silloth Bay to Annandale, con and Port Carlisle, had been putting the works into the tide taing some of the best cultivated lands in Scotland ;' and it way, ,which bad caused banks ,to form. In their projected cted was essential to give those pe o pl e every f ac ili ty for the dock, Mr. 'Hartley's plan was, to make the dock inland. transfer of their produce - which they could not of They did not intend -to putAown anything to. interfere with themselves consume. That could be best provided by sea the natural course of the water ; and, therefore, he might in connection with their port, because they int en d e d runn ing faiely, argue, that as it .had for time immemorial been a steam-tugs from that point to the other ports within their place suitable for vessels, and they could show from the year reach. This was a very important matter to those localities, 1774 the depth of water, and if they did not interfere by not and the gentlemen connected with them could not but regard putting the works in the tide-way, they might fairly argue it in the light in which he had just put it. Their obj ect in it would continue to remain a s it n ow was. They consi- coming to Liverpool was, th a t they regarded the question dered this was, a very, strong point. If they could oncelornie as one highly important to the interests of this town. The the 'floating dock at this point, they should attract the ship- most of their trade lay with Live r p oo l, an d t h ey therefore ping interest th ere , an d should open a channel for a great naturally expected that its men o f business with , that spirit traffic in oth er coal, and v ar i ous commodities, which were. . and enterprise for which they were remarkable , would ,grvit calling for it at the present moment. (Hear, ' hear.) I t them the aid which they sought in ''' prosecuting this under opened, a way to, the coast of Ireland, and various other„ taking. - '(Hear, hear.) places. A jetty would have to be made for the dock out Mr. W into . inr.rasrsoe - asked, inasmuch as nearly all the traffic the deep water. It would be an open p ier, and would not of which they had given an I interfere with the natural course 'of thewater. There was 1 necessarily pass Over two other lines , the Newcastle and one point .connected with making this pier. They should,• Carlisle, and the Carlisle and Port Carlisle railways, would in the first instance e form therrailwav to the poi nt they tell the meeting to what extent those companies were on the plan, and to make it available for ships imme diate ) inclined to co-operate ? before, they had the sleek made they should be able t I; , accommodate vessels to a considerable extent MR. DIXON' We can give a most satisfactory ans wer t o in shipping that. coal end other commodities,.ao that even before the dock was • MR. IRVING said the p romoters of this line bad an in opened, gentlemen,would find this a good investment. Before interview with' the directo rs of Newcastle andt e the Carlisle forming thie dock, so important was it considered by the i railway, and they also saw the directors of the Port Carlisle shipping, interest, and so likely were those who knew wh a t line, and i he might state the interview he had with both the traffie was between Ireland and the east coast, imme- the directors , the greatest facilities were promised to be given diately,that there was ' an _opening made at Silloth, a jetty to them. in fact our: interests and thei-s were identical. or anything, they would immediately avail themselves of it, , Coals , or any other ar ticles should be brought 60 miles over its superiority over. he harbour was so great. With respect the Newcastle and Carlisl e Railway, and it was important to the railway from Silloth down to Drumburgh, it was for them to get a good outlet for it by a sea communication ; almost unnecessary for him to mention it atter the report of and it was as much for their interest that the rate should be Mr. Blyth, the engineer ; but he might remark, the railway low, and that they passed through a country which presented no engineering The Port Carlisle directors, at their last meeting, passed a ARLISLE AND SILLOTH BAY RAILWAY AND 'DOCK COMPANY. ,TTIE - NORTHERN DAILY TIMES. resolution expressing their great interest in the object they had in view, and wishing it ev er y success. (Hear, hear,) Because they looked on it in this light —running over their, line for 84 miles, if they could only bring double the traffic it would be as 17 to 11; and therefore it was clearly their interest. They had also an interview with them about ar ranging claims, &c., and they were met in a spirit of fairness which was highly encouraging. It had been found that a small line like this could be worked by a larger company than themselves, and it was their intention to take advan tage of that experience, and to make arrangements with the Newcastle and Carlisle company for work ing the line ; and this was likewise intended on the part of the Port Carlisle directors. Minerals, &c., coming on that line being in the wagons of the Newcastle and the Carlisle company, and drawn by their own engines, they could bring them on to the line at a less cost than they could provide the rolling stock. Mr. DIXON remarke that the provisional committee of the Carlisle and Silloth coinpany included the names of several directors and shareholders of the other companies. They made it a point to get those directors, who were taking a lively interest in the project, and acted in both capacities, as a guarantee to• the public, they were working hand in hand together. His (Mr. Dixon's) father, who was deeply interested in the old canal company, was on the provisional committee; and up to a late period he was one of the direc tors of -the Port Carlisle railway. There were others who were shareholders. Mr. PINION asked what provision was intended to be made for a communication between this town and Silloth bay. Nothing had been said at present as to ensuring cer taM permanent communication between Liverpool and Silloth bay. As the support of the merchants of Liverpool was sought, it would be necessary to show them they had a direct and certain convenience between here and the new dock at the other side. Mr. Invirio replied that until very lately they had tw o steam-boat companies runnin g their boats twice a week; but when the Lancaster line was completed, the competition became so great that one of the companies gave up the station, and the entire line was then left to the Carlisle and Liverpool steam navigation company. They had in conse quence experienced very great inconvenience. As an instance, he would mention that on one occasion goods which were dispatched from Liverpool on Monday did not reach him until Friday ; but if they were shipped in the steam-boat to Silloth bay on the same date, he would have had them in Carlisle on the Tuesday morning. There need be, then, no apprehension on the point referred to by Mr. Piston ; be cause on the opening out of any new channel of communi cation its incidental wants must necessarily force themselves upon the attention of the merchants of the whole place. He might also state that the Newcastle steam-boat which had plied between this port and Carlisle for many years, was undergoing repairs in order to be placed on the station ; and he had no doubt but that with other increased facilities which it would give, it would be the interest of the steam boat company to provide adequate accommodation. If they did not, then the promoters of the present scheme would have to provide steam-boats for themselves. Mr. SMITH HARRISON asked what amount of support the indertaking had received from those locally interested'? Mr. IRVING replied that in the neighbourhood of Carlisl they had got something like £30,000. The deputation hao been also in London last week, and after the explanations they gave at a very largo meeting which' was . held in the London Tavern, somewhere about £5,000 was subscribed before they separated. The matter was now in the hands of some active friends there, and he had no doubt, if Liverpool came out as it ought to do, of their being able to go before parliament next session. £30,000 for Carlisle, he might observe, was a very large sum. It was not a speculative place ; but viewing the matter as a sound investment, and one in which they were deeply interested, they. had thus stretched forth a helping hand. Mr. 11.6..unisoN observed that he had heard statements which showed that this undertaking would be of very great advantage to Carlisle locally ; b u t h e did not correctly under stood what special advantage it was that should make it worth the while of the Liverpool people to co-operate in the matter. did not see how it would accommodate the through traffic. They have already a line of communication between Newcastle and Carlisle by railway. Was it then by the difference of cost between the goods taken by Silloth bay and those by way of Carlisle and Maryport that would entitle them to claim the through traffic ? Mr. IRVING replied that it had been already stated that Maryport was not at all times accessible, and that conse quently much delay took place there. The delay in fact was so great that it had been the subject of complaint with the people of Carlisle for some time. As an instance of this, and of the interest attached to the present undertaking 'in the • south of Ireland, he would merely read the following com munication which the secretary had received from Mr. Hartley : _ . _ "Mi dear Sir—l have been down in the south of Ireland to advise about the construction of a dock at Cork by the Great Southern and Western, and in my interview with the directors and officials, reference has several times been made to the proposed, dock at Silloth, and much satisfaction ez presscd at the prospect of floating dock accommodation being afforded in that locality. It appears that this railway com pany, as well as others, get all their coat for the - manufacture nuk e from Nwcastle via Murynnrt, plain greatly ot, the detention they are subjected to from vessels getting neaped, They tell me that the trade in coal with Silloth, should facilities be afforded for their ship ment, would be something very large indeed, as the New castle coals alone will suit their purpose,; and I think it well to inform you of this, in order that your attention may be directed to this source of traffic, and I have no doubt that by a little inquiry you will find strong evidence to the effect I have stated. If you wish to be informed more fully as re gards the shipments of the Great Southern, Mr. J. M. Miller, their engineer, will, I am sure, be glad to furnish you with information. His office is in Dublin. " J. B. HARTLEY." Mr. HAnnlsOrr: It is quite clear that you expect the through traffic, not because you carry the goods cheaper, but because of your greater facilities. Mr. IRVING replied that the difference between the cost of construction of weir line, all other railways would always give them the advantage. Mr. HARRISON : 'But suppose they increase their traffic at a less cost ? Mr. Inv.i.wo replied that they could not accommodate that which they even now had ; and a large amount of traffic went upon a route which they could not get at all, but which would be attainable by the present line. Mr, Da. - ox said that he knew a gentleman largely con nected with the collieries, who went to Maryport a short time ago to seek for additional accommodation for the ship of coals to Ireland, but he could not obtain it. Mr. IRVING stated that the manage; of the Belfast gas works, sought for the like accommodation a n d cou ld not ob tain it , and simply because it was not to be had. Mr. Irving in concligion stated that since they cam e t o Li ver p oo l, £2,000 had been subscribed to the undertaking. After some further desultory discussion. Mr. WILLIAlisox moved, and Mr. R. 'HODSON seconded, that the thanks of this meeting be given to the deputation, for the very lucid and clear statement which they had. made. The motion was unanimously adopted ; and the compli ment was acknowledged by Mr. Dixon. Mr. NicuoLsorr moved, and Mr. ROBINSON seconded, that the project appeared to be sound and feasible, and well worthy the attention of capitalists. The motion was unanimously adopted. The thanks of the meeting having been given to the chairman, the meeting separated. The shock of an earthquake was felt near Geneva on the 4th instant. The walls of several houses were eracked. CHRISTIIAS HOLIDAY.—Tho shopkeepers of Wolverhamp ton have consented to close their places of business on the Monday after Christmas day, in order to afford their assist ants an opportunity of visiting their relatives.—Wolver hanipton Herald. ACCIDENTS.--A woman named Merry Egan, residing in Addison-street, whilst gathering ,nttnn , in - nartoy,...tr.ot, was crushed between a cart and a wall, and sustained a severe contusion of the thigh.—Susanna M'Cluskey, living in Eccles-street, - whilst engaged in th e same employment, her foot slipped and she fractured her thigh. The above cases were received at the Northern Hospital. EXTRAORDINARY SLAUGHTER OF RATS.—About 1,400 of these pests of the farmers were recently killed in some very old-standing wheat ricks on an estate in the neighbourhood of, Upton-on-Severn. The quantity of grain consumed by the vermin'must have been very great, as they had long held undisputed possession of their comfortable quarters. - What a speculation for a Chinese purveyor ! How much he would regret the loss of so much dainty food ! —Gloucester Chro nicle. DEATH FROM EXCESSIVE DRINKING.—An inquest was held yesterday on the body of Martha Robinson, aged 60 , years. The deceased, who kept a tobacconist shop, nearly opposite the, Rorough gaol, was found dead under very sus pieious circumstances on Monday morning. , •It appeared the deceased lived in this shop, but had formerly resided with her daughter in Virgil-street, who was in the 'habit of occasionally leaving her mother, and remaining out all night. On Sunday night, a young woman; named Elizabeth Quirk, called to see the deceased, the daughter being out, the deceased asked her to wait until her daughter returned. She remained until ten o'clock, and it being then too late to go home, she went to bed in the back part of the shop, which is divided by a temporary screen, and when Quirk get up the next morning, she found the deceased lying dead on the floor. The daughter appeared at the inquest, and said she had gone with a friend to Cheshire on Saturday, leasing her mother in the shop, and was surprised on going to the shop on Tuesday to find the place in charge of the police. She stated that her mother had a great many fr'e ds, gentlemen connected with shipping, who called on 11 r occ , sionally, and then she took more -irink than was c n 12th it with sobriety. In reply to the coroner, she said Nhe had frequently .seen her mother intoxicated. The hus band of the deceased was a cabinetmaker in New York, and he was chiefly employed in. 'fitting up the cabins of packet ships. They (the deceased and , her husband) had been parted many years. Mr. Kemp, surgeon; made a/ost-mor. tent examination on the body of the decease I, and found the cause of death to have been apoplexy, and, from the state of the organs, he had no doubt but that it was brought on by excessive drinking. Tho jury returned a verdict of died from excessive drinking. THE POOR LAW BOARD AND THEIR POWERS. PROPOSED ABOLITION OF THE BOARD, MEETING IN MANCHESTER. In the month of January last a Committee of Guardians was appointed, for the purpose of taking what steps they deemed most advisable, with the view of restricting the powers of the Poor-Law Board. The committee was appointed at a 'public meeting of deputations from Boards of Guardians, Sze. On the 14th of November last the committee met, and having taken into consideration the circumstance that the Poor-Law Board will have to seek a renewal of their powers from parlia ment during the next session, came to a resolution to the effect, that the several unions which had heretofore acted toge ther on this subject, and such guardians, ratepayers, and others , as are disposed to co-operate, be requested to send deputations to a meeting to be held at the Albion Hotel, for the purpose of determin i ing what steps, if any, should be taken during the next session, either to liniit the powers of the Poor-Law Board, or to attempt a more extensive interference therewith. Accordingly a meeting of deputations from Poor-Law Guar dians and others was held yesterday afternoon in the Albion Hotel, Piccadilly, Manchester, for the purpose of supporting and maintaining a resolution passed at a similar meeting, held at the Albion Hotel, in the month of last January, to the effect " That parliament should withdraw from the Poor-Law Board the unconstitutional power now exercised by it of making laws, which only belongs to parliament itself, and this power parliament has no right to delegate." The meeting was not very numerously attended. Amongst the gentlemen present were, John Holt, Eaq., (Stubbylee, near Bacup,) George Had field, Esq., M.P., J. M. Cobbett, Esq., M.P.. Jo-hua Fielden, Esq., Stansfield Hall, Todmorden, and the Rev. Mr. Herford, Todmorden. On the motion of Mr. Rankin, seconded by Joshua Fielden, Esq., John Holt, Esq., was unanimously called to the chair. The CHAIRMAN said, in opening the meeting the best thing he could do would he, in the first instance, to explain why and wherefore they were assembled that day. It would be in the recollection of many gentlemen present, that in January last a meeting was held which appointed a committee, and that committee appointed a deputation to go to London on seve ral subjects connected with the Poor. Law Board, and especially with regard to the withdrawal of the last obnoxious general order. After an interview with Mr. Baines, which followed an inter view with his predecessor, the deputation conferred with two members of parliament, who did them the favour to give them their advice at that juncture in the management of poor law matters. He meant the honourable member for Notting ham (Mr. Walter), and his honourable and learned friend near him, (Mr. J. M. Cobbett) to both of whom they were much indebted for the pains they had taken in this matter, and for the excellent advice they had given. (Hear, hear ) They advised the deputation, that inasmuch as the poor law board would have to seek for an extension of its powers seat session, that that would be the proper time to ask parliament to limit its powers, or to abrogate its existence altogether. (Hear.) And 'herefore, they recommended the deputation to be on their 'are, and keep their powder dry till the end of the year, when t .ry should meet again with deputations from Boards of ;uardians to consult as to what course should be adopted. Accordingly, in April, the committee requested him to call a public meeting some time previous to the assembling of parliament for the next session, leaving sufficient time for the agitation of the question, and the object of petitions, should it be requisite to do so. Accordingly on the 14th of last month, a meeting of the committee was held to appoint the day for such meeting, and they fixed the present day, when they had assembled; and it was for them to say what, under the circumstances must be done. They would probably remember that p•rliarneut must do something next session, as to the' powers of the poor law board, or they would cease altogether. He would leave the discussion of the subject to those who were to follow him, but he might say that in his judgment, it was *not competent for those gentlemen who were sent to parliament to delegate their legislatorial functions on other and i respansible parties. (Hear, hear.) And that was point which affected the rights of the constituency. (Hear, hear.) It had been said to him (the chairman) that morning, by one o f the members for North Lancashire, who had been there, but because be could not support the views of the committee, had gone away—that inasmuch that as Mr. Baines might be safely trusted—that inasmuch as he had proceeded in the discharge of his duties with commendable moderation, and inasmuch as • the government did not propose to seek for increased powers, that no opposition was called for at the present juncture. He did not think that that opinion, however high and respectable the authority, was entitled to much weight. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Baines was not immortal ; and Lord Aberdeen was not destined to be First Lord of the l'reasury for ever; (hear,) and who could tell what measures might he applied for respecting the administration of the poor laws under some other government. (Hear, hear.) He objected to centralisation, and contended that the administration of local matters ought to be left to local authorities, and on toc.rl responsibility. (dear, hear ) And if they were to attain that desirable end, they must deserve it by perseverance, energy, and determination. Unless they made a long pull, a strong pull, and a pull altogether, they could not hope or expect to be successful. (Hear, hear.) He had received numerous letters, apologising for noci• attendance at the meeting ; among others Mr. Wickham, Lord Goderich, M.P., and Mr. Walters, M.P. The chairman, in conclusion, referred to the recent order, respecting so much relief in kind, .and so much in ru.niey, and said that he came from a district (Bacup) where 10,000 or 12,000 persons were out of work, and had been for the last six weeks, and where it was consequently perfectly impossible to obey the fifth article of the objectionable order. (Hear.) He had a number of letters from boards of guardians, and, with the exception of West Derby and Chorley unions, they all agreed in the object of the meeting. Mr. GEORGE HADFIELD M.P. read a letter from his constituents at Sheffield, stating that they were prepared to co-operate in any moment to crush the greatest curse this couiltry ever had to contend with centralisation in regard to the administration of th . e poor law. Had he (Mr. Hadfield) had anything to do with the drawing up of the letter, he should here recommend a moderation of the language, because he thought the "water in mode as well as the fortiter in re was desirable. The Rev. Mr. BUTLER, of Nottingham, moved the first resolution, which was as follows :—" That as the poor law board will, during the ensuing session, have to apply to par liament for a renewal of the act under which they are appointed, this meeting considers it a favorable opportunity for boards of guardians and ratepayers to apply to parliament for a limitation of their powers." The centralisation system was clearly unpopular throughout the country. The fact stated in the resolution, was one that spoke for itself. He must say that he had never met with anything discourteous from the poor law board ; but he had met with a determination on their part, to act on their own positive plan without taking any advice whatever from local persons who, perhaps, could give the best that could be rendered. He had resigned the chairmanship of the Not tingham guardians, because he did not want to be in hot water all his life, and there was continual unpleasantness with the poor law hoard. He thought they would all agree in this, that this was a proper time to interfere with the unlimited powers with which the poor law board were invested, with a vicw to obtain a limitation of the same. Mr. JOSHUA FIELDEIST, of Stansfield Hall, Todmorden, had great pleasure in seconding the resolution, but he must state, lest he should be misunderstood, that it did not by any means go the length he wished it did. (Hear, hear.) He had merely bowed to the opinion of the majority of the committee in second ing the motion as proposed, otherwise ho should have been in favour of going to parliament for the total abolition of the Poor- Law Board. (Hear, hear.) He had come to that conclusion after a careful watching of the operation of the law, and con- sidering . how it passed originally, and the unconstitutional powers that had been. vested in the board in London, leading .to the d.wial of that relief in cases in which it had been ad mitted by all who were acquainted with the constitution of this country relief should be granted. (Hear, hear.) And thus poverty was made a crime, and that led to the pun'shment of hat was liable to come upon them all, and especially the working classes. He was sure that those who wished to see the warkinipeople honest, independent, upright, and hard-working people, as they had: always wished to be, must be aware that . _ the present was a cruel and most unjust law. (Hear, hear.) It' was said that the new poor law, under the centralised admi nistration in London would lead to a diminution of expense. What was the fact? That the expense of th a t administration formed a large item in the expenses of the country. He con tended that the law had completely failed ; for since the passing or it about forty acts had been passed to amend it. That clearly showed that those who pretended to understand the 'principle ou which the poor should be relieved were totally mistaken in their ideas. Then, again, the clause about bastardy had been repealed completely,, and the old clause had been substituted for it. (Hear.) Those who formed the law were themselves not only at fault in their principles, but mistaken in their views altogether. They had by their rules mistaken the people Of England, upon whom they would look as dissolute, idle, lazy Vagabonds, and that of itself would always make him most violently opposed to the law. (Hear, hear.) Then, in carrying out the law, the machinery employed was opposed to the constitution of the country, and it struck a fatal blow to self-government. Therefore some peculiar machinery was wanted to carry it out. A central heard was wanted to enforce the cruelty of the law, and to lay down rules which even though death should he the result of carrying them out, were to be carried out. (Hear, hear.) Under these circumstances, he for one would have gone for the total abolition of the hoard. (Applause.) He never should be. satisfied until . that board as swept away—(hear, hear) because it was opposed to all those principles under which we ti d risen up and grown to be a great and powerful nation. Until we returned to the old institutions which gave the ratepayers the whole controul over the expenditure of the money and the treatment of the poor— uritil we get that we should never get a thorough and beneficial administration of the Poor-law. (Applause.) In answer to a question from Mr. SMITH, of Bradford; the 'CIIAIRWAN said that the last return to parliament showed that the expense of the establishment at Gwydyr House amounted to X 260,000. Mr. SMITH said, he could not at all understand why the boards of guardians should be looked at as they were by the poor law board. He thought it an extraordinary circumstance that guardians could do nothing without writing to the cleric of the Poor-Law Board in London, which in his opinion was of very little service, if any, to the country. (Hear, hear.) They did a deal of mischief, and a deal of valuable time was taken up in writing to them, which ought to be spent to better purposes. (Hear.) The most trivial matter could not be attended to by the guardians, without the sanction of the board in London. That, he thought, was an indignity cast upon the'guardians. He wished to move an amendment to the following effect : That after the word parliament (in the proposed resolution) the following be substituted for what appears in the resolution :—" For the discontinuance of the Poor-Law Commissioners, now called the Poor-Law Board." Boards of Guardians could manage their business without the assistance of the Poor-Law Board. Mr. WOLSTENHOLME, of Oldham, seconded the amendment. Mr. NEWTON, of Leeds, supported the amendment. If the present law was to be continued, the best thing the government could do, would be to appoint stipendiary guardians in order that they might manage their business in their own way, and • please them-elves. (Hear, hear.) If they did not alter the recent general order, the Poor-Law Board would have to come to Leeds themselves, to transact the business of the board there. (Hear.) The question was then put, when the amendment was carried by a majority of fifteen to eight. Both the mover (Mr. Butler) and seconder (Mr. Fielden) of the original resolution, expressed themselves as extremely glad with the decision of the meeting, as the amendment was more agreeable to them than the original motion. The Rev. Mr. FROST, of Bradford, moved the second reso lution :—" That this meeting is of opinion that the powers possessed by the Poor-Law Board of making orders which have the force of law, are most unconstitutional in principle and mischievous in practice, and such as parliament has no right to delegate; and, therefore, this meeting determines to make every effort during next session to prevent the renewal of such powers to. anybody." He said that for parliament to delegate to three persons, the powers which they themselves possessed, must be unconstitutional in principle and mischievous in practice. The clerks of boards of guar dians and their assistants were wearied out by carrying on correspondence with the Poor-Law Board in London, and what good did the board do? (Hear, hear.) He must say that upon no difficult question whatever, either in law or practice, had the board of guardians with which he was con nected ever applied to the Poor Law Board in London, and received even a scintilla of light on the subject. (Applause.) They had always a clearer idea of the business before they applied to the board, for after applying to them, and receiving from them four long sheets of paper written and signed by authority, they could not understand the business at all. Mr. Alderman LITTLE, of Oldham, seconded the resolution. He said, the centralisation of power in France was not worse than that which had been palmed upon us under the present poor-law system. (Hear.) He was willing to aid in waging war against this system, from one end of the country to the other. (Hear, hear.) Mr. &Ant, of Manchester, asked whether it was understood that ratepayers, not being guardians, should vote. The CHAIRMAN answered in the affirmative. The resolution was put and carried uuanimously. Mr. DARK, of Leeds, moved the third resolution : " That the boards of guardians, through their delegates and other persons here present, pledge themselves to bring this sub ject before the public in their several localities, in order that petitions may be sent, praying the legislature not to renew the Poor-Law Board." The Rev. B. HERPORD, of Todmorden, seconded the reso lution. He thought the Poor-Law Board should be abolished altogether. (Hear.) The Poor-Law Board has been a com plete nuisance. Ho contended that the present struggle•was one for the retention of our last local powers, which one by one had been taken from us and given to the paid officials of central commissioners. He hoped that at the next election this would be made a hustings' question. Mr. SHACKLETON, of Penistone, supported the resolution. The resolution was carried unanimously. Mr. SAMUEL FIELDEN, of Oldham, moved the next resole• Lion " That in order to meet the expenses which must be in curred, the several parties here present pledge themselves to raise the necessary funds among themselves and friends." Mr. FOSTER, of Blackburn, seconded the tesolution. • The resolution was carried nem. eon. Mr. GERMON, of Bradford, moved the next resolution : " That a committee be appointed to carry out the resolutions e of this meeti ng , w ith f u ll power to send a deputation to London, and to take a ll suc h ot h er measures as may appear to them im apnordtatnktatansudehneccoemssaturyittteoe a d e o co co m n p s l i i s s t h o t f h t e h e objectfol lfollowing w o in g gentlemen, ft he tu eng with power to add to their number :—[Here follow the names of committee]—and that they be requested to meet at the close of the present proceedings to appoint a secretary, and commence proceedings." Mr. HARTLEY, of Burnley, seconded the resolution. Carried unanimously. Mr. Alderman LITTLE, of Oldham, moved the sixth reso lution:-- " That the thanks of the meeting be given to the members of parliament who have honoured the meeting with their atten• dance," • Mr. SYKES, of Huddersfield, seconded the resolution, which was carried by acclamation. Mr. J. CHERTHAM, M.P., returned thanks. He thought the committee, who prepared the original resolutions, were more prudent than the meeting, which adopted the amendment to the first resolution. They could not, he thought, abrogate the Poor-Law Board; but, in his opinion, they might do much in the way of limiting the powers which that board possessed; and he thought that they could do so on several grounds of expiTience. And in the accomplishment of the latter object lie should be glad to do all he could to assist them. (Hear, hear. ) Mr. J. W. COBBETT, M.P., likewise returned thanks. He said he took a very great interest in this question, and had very long done so. (Hear.) He thought that in point of fact, they would find it rather a difficulty in practice, to limit and define the powers of the Poor. Law Board, or to lay down a set of rule under which the board should act. However, he was not at all indisposed to the attempt to get a limitation of that power, if it should be contrary to the feeling of parlia ment, to abrogate the Poor-Law Board altogether. But he agreed in this, that the Poor-Law Board had been a very great nuisance to the boards of guardians, and that if it cannot be got rid of altogether, it was very necessary there should be some attempt at all events, to bring about some limitation of its powers, to make it more agreeable to the boards of guardians. (Hear, hear.) And, therefore, he thoroughly approved of the vote the meeting came to upon the first resolution. (Hear, hear.) and he did not think that that would be any obstacle in the way, in the event of their afterwards determining to go only for a limitation of the powers of the Poor-Law Board. (Hear.) He would be glad to do all he could to further the objects the meeting had in view. (Applause.) After it vote of thanks to the chairman, the meeting separated a little after four o'clock. Twenty-one tradesmen, of 'different pursuits, were fined in Manchester on Friday. The Rev. W. Luxmoor has been elected Fellow of Eton College. He was one of the assistant masters. The Rev. Richard Harrington, Principal of Brazenose College, Oxford, died on Tuesday morning. A STRIKE AT AN END.—The bottle makers of Newcastle on-Tyne have returned to their work. Some at an advance of wages, some not. A young man who had to pass over a portion of the Car marthen mountains last week during the fog, was found dead from exhaustion in the morning. THE Anaric SEARCH.—No letters or dispatches have yet been received by the admiralty from her majesty's ship Am phitrite, on her return from Behring's Strait, and there is consequently no foundation for the statement that there has been news from the Enterprise and Investigator. The latest intelligence from the latter ship has already reached us by Captain Inglefield, and nothing more can be known of her until the autumn of nAxt year. Of the Enterprise no intelligence has been received. It is also untrue that the ' name M Sir John Franklin will be struck off the books of the admiralty, in order to make room for that of Captain Chads. It is not to be supposed that the admiralty would contemplate such a step while the issue, even of their own expeditions in search of Sir John Franklin, is unknown. CHINA.—The Rev. Hugh Stowell Brown has been lee tiring in Manchester on the Chineiie Empire. Upon 'the subject of Chinese education he says :—The educational institutions of China had been much talked about, and it was said that we ought to learn a lesson from the Chinese, where the only way to public office, honour, and emolument was by a liberal education. If, however, education was the wily door to these, the door could only be opened by a Olden key. Then the learning of a Chinaman was of a stereotyped character. He had to learn the sacred classics, blit he must not express a single idea that differed, in the slightest degree, from the writings of the great philosopher Confucius. He must have a tolerably correct notion about the geography of China, and an incorrect notion about other places. They wished their youth to be educated up to a certain point, and not beyond it. It was the best illustration he knew of Pope's words : " A little learning is a dangerous thing." The real object•of government education in China was, to restrain progress beyond a certain point, and God forbid that we should take a lesson out of that book. COLOSSAL ORGAN FOR THE NEW CHRYSTAL PALACK.— The magnitude of this organ is necessarily very great. The rough drawings which have been prepared for the guid ance of the committee show that it will occupy an area of about 5,400 feet, so that, supposing it to be placed at the end of the transept, and to extend from one gallery to the other in width, its depth will be about 50 feet, and its altitude may be about 140 feet from the ground. The in ternal structure of such an instrument is divided into stories, like a house, for the convenient support of the sound-boards and pipes. In the present case the feeders of the bellows must be moved by a small steam-engine, and this, together with the feeders, should be disposed in an underground ap pa;rtment beneath the organ. The space beneath the first floor of the organ may thus be entirely disengaged, being only occupied by the pillars required for the support of the organ, and by the wind-trunks. This portion of the struc ture should be constructed substantially of stone, iron, or brick, and open on all sides with arches, and will thus form a part of the area of the transept. An organ of this ex tent will cost £25,000. _ - THE WINE DUTIES. A correspondent says A great and favourable iterj' ee i e ' as far as French i n t eres t s are concerned, has been pod° by Mr. Oliveira's v i s it t o Bordeaux. The honorable Inel,e, ber for Pontefract, who is collecting from the best in all the wine countries the various data, to gi ve t it effect to his statement in the approaching session, reeenet, visited the city of Bordeaux, and the enlightened comm a cial magnates of that i m p or t ant p l ace not only placed to disposal all the information with respect to the roe price, and capability of supply which were necessary f {or i . the purpose, but they m an if es t e d so much sympathy ° A d' sc. question in which M r . Oli ve i ra i s engaged, as to pr— some very complimentary results. ton . A special meetin g o f th e Ch am b er of Commerce vio-g y r , vened in the 'splendid hall of the Bourse to receiv e p r i Oliveira, and the vice-president, Mr. B er ti n , en tered I t - fully into,all the ques t ions , commerc i al, moral, and ir !'i national, expressing an ea rnes t h ope t h at Mr. Olivei ra efforts might be successful a s we ll f or t h e i nteres t s of deaux, those of the wine districts of France gen e l ;(l , and the still hi g h er c l a i ms o f international friendsh ip alliance, to all of which Mr.:Oliveira ..ave a cordialregPh°io referring especially to th e advantages he expected to 0 ", for British interest s i n th e s h ape of increased revenue , ;$ .proved morality, greater employment for British shilt or i, 'and an augumented intercourse with the French n a bli, Subsequently th e Ch am b er of Commerce invited Yr• thit veira to an o ffi cial dinner, a compli men t rare l y pa id by ,j body, and upon th a t occas i on the principal merchant' 9 1, municipal body w ere a ll present, as also the British 011-tbe The president, in a very animated speech, referring t? t o, great advantages of comm erc i a l re l at i ons w i th Great Bile ' gave Mr. Oliveira's health in connexion with the, duties, to which M r . Oli ve i ra replied; kiving some stati!`l 'details upon th e consumpt i on, revenue, and internsOrg 0 questions, concludi ng by giv i ng t h e health of the EmPe, of the Fr e nch. Th e pres id ent gave the Queen of le i and the general results of Mr. Oliveira's inquiries in Ate it part of Franc e are suc h as to give him the gr e y encouragement. EDUCATION IN LERDS.—It is stated in the Leech ifere,s ir d i that there are 7,000 sou l s i n that town without church or school. ' Capt. Lord F. Kerr has taken command of the Wl:a ria ; 120 guns. The Cressy, screw, 80 guns, is ordered t t °, o commmissioned. The M a j es ti c , screw, 80 guns, h a s "' put under the masting shears. A WIDOW PEN SIONED .—Th e Q ueen has bestowe d 0 P eir mion of £5O per annum:onthe widow of Hogg, the " Shepherd." We regret to state that the Lord Justice K n ight - fir e ll :t has severely bruised th e b ones o f hi s knee by a fall, sncl, there is no probability o f hi s resum i ng h i s judicial uut for some days. )" THE WAR LN T HE EAST.—PUBLIC M EETING AT V TLE-UPON-TYNE.—On M on d ay even i ng a public mee„'de,' was held in the Lectu re - room , Nelson-street, Noc,c-ilo " To consider th e p ro p r i e t y o f petitioring her Majes‘l r ce Queen to co-operate v igorous l y w i t h France in the aeb of the Ottoman empire." The meeting was conven ed , o° the mayor, Mr. R. Wo o d s , i n pursuance of a reiFT`obv signed by 120 inhabita n t s . Th e mayor presided. Dn',A.r3, Fife, Mr. - Catchside, and M r . C raw shay mere the ape" - The resolutions were carried enthusiastically. 60 1 THE COAL AND IR ON T RADE .—A vast quantil rot is raised in these di s t r i c t s , ow i ng to t h e working 0t,.„• gro• number of new pits, whi c h are now i n operation. 10e1,150 duce of a number of old pits which are now opened? : 1 , 1 , e 0 thrown into the mark e t, an d ena bl es the proprietorsco "" on account of the high price of coal, to work them tg,, ut ti vantage. The impetus g i ven t o t h e coal tra d e of '" Staffordshire is attributable, in a great measure, to the art , troduction of railroad s i n t o th ese districts, which in i P oo e great vigour to the trad e . The price of good irol ls , o ,le is still advancing, on acc oun t o f i ts scarc i ty. The iron lo t is unprecedentedly brisk, and prices are firm at tilt jag quotations. Hot blast pigs, 'made from mine, are m e s .i3 quoted at £4 155.; and cold bl as t, £5 s s. O r d ers are , t - be to be a little check e d, on account o f the dec l ara tion .0 late rise of 20s. per ton ; b u t this will only last for a : 3 0 f o r time, on account of the grea t and various requireraerN o ut iron of every descriptio n , f or so many purposes. The ' s o f A market is still in great request, ,with every prospect continuance.-Bta.fordshire Herald. LIVERPOOL MARKETS. —YESTERDAY. ' (Written expressly for the Northern Daily Tilo s ' ) of SUGAR has been t a k en t o a f a i r extent to-day, chielv et , grocery purposes; th e sa l es reac hi ng 1 20 hh Bar bci odi at 32s to 38s 6d ; 900 b ags B enares, at 3 7 s 9d to 385 to 1,800 bags Bengal, at 27s 6d for very low brown, n it. 38s 3d for grainy ; and 100 bags Madras, at 32s 6d ? c z No sales have transpired in MOLASSES Rum, or C°„ F r,„l, Of RICE we have to report the sale of 3,450 baga # ' — go od at 14s 6d for good broken, to 15s 3d c if' 0 " ":" - middling. 600 Packages' TEA.—By public sa l e t o -d ay, about knes, b u t sow chiefly all faults, were disposed of at fair Pri— bactaolmSessmon Congou went at rather easier r ates. ~,,bragb t At auction to-day 60 tons St. Domingo -r ~,wov., 61 , £6 2s 6d. to £6 5s for short cut, an £s 5s Ect 06 ,, , -is x ; £ 6 7s d,,1„ large wood; also 140 pieces gm" bales Bengal SAFFLowzR, all faults, at £2 to IP, 3 1 3s ca t s o k 3 o 5 f s FLAG ;afe vI A x i) :T e a k : g o es , :57', Palermo r5ri......, at ie. 3d V cwt ,- 800 b 34 'RO I' .- ags 1 ,is i G 9d am to bi l e O r s bags SALTPETRE went at 30s for 2i per cent. re til fra t c o tl l o ;l7 , g Iv Ax, at XS for d :J t a t c o t a t i t c ; a, and £7 10s for East India ; 80 ,533 0 $ 3 l ifP lb; and 400 bags Bombay LINSEED, all faults, a t SPfr to 53s 6d IR •qr for first-class damaged ; 60 bag FLOUR are reported at 23s ? ^mt. lO COTTON.---A good market and general demaa'b l det crowned by a firm closing. The sales were 7,0 00 lOU exportation, including 2,000 on s p ecu l a ti on an d for tation, c Surats. PRICES OP PROVISIONS E WEDNESDAY, 1 a. d s. d. Beef ....from o 5 to o 7i per lb. Mutton o 6 to 0 7 1 Veal Lamb o 0 to 0 0 .. Fresh I' ,rk 06to 0 7 ! Lobsters Haddock Bret Turbot oloto 1 6 7 . .. Soles 0 3 to 0 Cod Fish Fres', Butter, 2 to . Salt Ditto o 9 to r o Eggs 8 o to o o per 120. Pots oes r 0 to 1 .0 pe- peck Filberts 2 6 to 0 0 per lb. Grapes ' foreign r a to r 6 .. „ English s 6 to o 0 .. Fowls Ducks Chickens Geese s 10 to 5 6 N ST. JOHN'S mAnator. --- 4th DEC., 1853. S. (I. .• e < <h , t . Turkeys 3 o to 8 () 4 Rabb Strawberries, 0 0 to 0 ° per Asparagus Cuc .mbers 4 otO o ° 40 21 „ 4 4 Gooseberries o 0 t o 0 ° Peas Currants ~ Red, 0 0 to 0 0 or' Cherries Grouse .. 4 6 to 0 0 e sdy,it. Hares Apricots o o to 0 " .es, Foreign o o to 0 oper lb je, „ English o 0 to 0 Pigeons 4 4 to 0 ° bsoC t ' Partridge •• Pheasants Black Game 6 0 to 0 0 • Woodcocks 36t0 0 0 o;' Larks o 8 to 0 0 ' • snipes LONDON CORN EXCHANGE.—YESTERDAYi There is very little English W HEAT f res h up , b: supplies of foreign are large. Trade opened very steel for for English at Monday's prices. There is some dews: foreign, on French. account at the recent advance. -bst is unchanged. BARLEY, BEANS, and PEAS are stesk , there is not much doing. Fine white boifing FBAs '""bot request. Dealers are not free purchasers of 0.1 ,1 * prices are well maintained. SEEDS are unaltered. ARRIVALS THIS WEEK. Fl ° Wheat. Barley. Malt. Oats. Beans. Peas. 1 64 English 1260 ... 4790...4560 . . 2880 . . • • Irish .. ... 400 ... ... 1510... • Foreign 29980 . . 3400 . . ...18240 LONDON PRODUCE MARKET.—Yrsimuu o : s s B ; SUGAR.—West India is in good demand at 30s 0 ,49 refined sells more freely, grocery lumps, 44s to 475. VW; is wanted at pre v i ous t erms . C OFFEE i s i n act i ve deu, r o, native Ceylon, 47s to 478 6d ; plantation, 55s to 75 5 .:, -" —There is little doing, but no ac t ua l decline. ,g-oi‘l,rssf There is a good demand; white Ben ga l, 14 s t o 15s ; 13s to 13s 9d. Wool, —The. market is firmer for 5u17,400, the demand is increasin g . C orrow .—S a l es sma ll, but r are not lower. TALLOW is firm at 56s on the spot , 56s 6d to 56s 9d spring delivery. SALFORD CATTLE MARKET.—YEsTvgio:Ic ad In the early part of the morning there was a good de 4 6 for better descriptions of C ATTLE , b ut upon the ay ,,, l eo the market was generally inactive, and many articles left unsold. . Cows, 1,862 ; SHEEP, 6,240. w 61 3 " BEEF, 4 1 -4 to 6- 1 - , d• MUTTON , 6d to 7d; VEAL, 5- 97 - 2 4 .. GLASGOW CORN qr up. FLOU R is 49 - O A MARKET.—YzsTRup°" I herr& WHEAT brisk, and 3s if/ sack dearer. BARLEY more tone, but not d ea rer.. a 4( taken on speculation at rather mo re mone y. Bnelio i dearer. PF.As as last reported. EDINBURGH MARKETS.—YrsrEADAY . w ith Coml.—Small supply of grain to-day ; sales dull, s o; the exCeption_ of WHEAT. Top prices of Virgßi' l. ' BARLEY, 43s ; OATS, 83s ; BEANS, 545. week' CATTLE.—SuppIy of SHEEP larger than last d aliq Prices is 19 head lower, and best MurroN, ; I ni ff te°' and inferior, 6d to qd lb ;at close clearance not e j e , c od Supply . of CATTLE less than last week, demand g ) °"„ r icl sales brisk ; price advanced 3d IR Dutch stone. . 1 o p t Dutch d 9s 9d; stone. seco Goodar ndaryandcleiafaenrice effected. orAs from 8s to t 3 DUBLIN CORN EXCHANGE.—TUESDAY, DSO. 13 13 0r; There was a small supply of all descriptions ef grown grain at market to-day. WHEAT meta brisk de of $ll at an advance of 6d t 9 brl, and OATS and B ARLEIr qualities were more easily sold, but we do not quote g ll l,,set provement in prices of those articles, though in some fel. 00 ditto, 36s to 40s; barley, grinding, 12s to 17s; a shade higher was realised. White wheat, 38s 6d to Vl' , 18s to 20s; bere, 15s to 16s; oats, white, 12s to 1 6 _ 8 h o s! tawny, 11s to 14s ; rapeseed, 27s 6d to 29s 6 d; o„, 1., 14s 6d to 16s ; bakers' flour, 22s to ; Indian CO 480 ibs, 40s to 46s 6d. ditto Wadi ot . Printed rand Published by CHARLES WILL3I9-4-14cticaleff Oxford-street, at hi s G enera l Printing an d '— Establishment, 19, South John-street, Liverpool. WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 14, 1865. ~ To ._ r~, -„,,.........._.: 4 4 01 3 Iv; ~ y 7~1 ~~ L tai l t o , n 11111: I A lin, 44nti A 147 ' _ie ~tiY 1 1 1, Vg,-k , Aci j bl t il h ' tbiltitr °b aAPI ! 1 4 0 1 . t ! t tsti, Fr ter