Northern Times. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-11-26 00:00:00

INDIAN NEWS. GOVERNMENT DESPATCH. ' ALExaNnitli, Nov. 18th, 1857. nn. per Bentinck, which arrived at Suez ghi o • nra Calcutta;:— I n a is ix the residency of Lucknow with 1,500 1 ,,r more, with sick awl wounded, are at Alumbar, ri distant. Communication between the two se em Y are said to be in great force, and very strong m 0 of provisions for Cawnpore has arrived at . 18ss shortly after its relief, escorted by 250 men who, d got in unmolested, in consequence of the Sepoys b e 7 engaged•entrenching themselves. Reinforce -1)444 lent up with all speed from Calcutta. to r ents, amounting in all to 1,209 Europeans , !e left Cawnpore for Lucknow on the Mh 'Oct. terlson at the latter place could easily f o rce their ', oat General Havelock, does not wish to expose tx, 4 B l d children to further danger. to thin ithib is said to be near.Bithoor again. was known at Calcutta of his reported capture !t • "°ell Battallion. of the 32nd Bengal Native Infantry mutinied at . 4 , 1 1 d murdered two of their o ffi cers, and the 144 of Chitlins is reported to have been murdered or lcitn, People. Greathed's column, consisting of Her Majesty's le aa ar ld Oth. Lancers, two troops Horse Artillery , one - r field battery, five 12. inch mortars, two corn , hejanio Sappers, second and fourth Panjanb ~125 detatchments of Punjaub Cavalry,. and 200 Horse—about 3,000 in all, in pursuit of Delhi Nt; : sfell in with the enemy at Bolundshakar, and t ip 4 cturs , fighting, routed them with heavy loss of e„,° ll guns and ammunition.; our loss was fi fty killed ,114tEld, h was afterwards taken and blown up. of a t then enemyen my cut up, 2 guns taken. The column 4 4 .,..._ 4 gra on the 14th. The enemy made a sudden ;Meted attack on cantonments ; were repulsed , 48 Persed, and pursuit continued up to the ICharee. 'ambers killed (1000). all the guns (43), plunder, , 1 1,2 1 1 3 age, and five lacs of treasure captured with L lot i4 '., on our side. Mi kt "elhi fugitives in the neighbourhood of Bethoor S I , licked by C o l one l Nelson, with a small force from IlL t e, on the 18th, and driven out of the place which L th h „ . ' ll g• much wanted everywhere, and transport e, 1 / 4 4 1111 'ge ships in tow of steamers had been sent to Li u " for elephants . I N l ,L u nin under Brigadier Showers, 1„200 men and had marched through Bullulghar in pursuit of d • 01l of Delhi has a marks l effect in the Meerut and L kt;,,, 118 districts. Nti i :Lne has been brought in very rapidly, and loyalty order of the day. :e 000 in-Chief had ordered that a standing :k f 1 , 4 ,000 men be instantly organ;secl at Konugungo . , 1 / 44 eninsular and Oriental Steamer may be expected A t to Convey troops to Calcutta, on the 2 4 th inst. 9 6, entin e k met the Pottinger and hindoostan on the ti ld the Emu on the 14th inst , all well. Loan Drove, Consul Craig, Cagliari, Nov. 24, 1857. LUCKNOW REINFORCED ‘; 11 :er V ectig. lust arrived from Alexandria, brings no k . o 4 , l ews than was co -municated this morning by leett,' , except that Lucknow was reinforced by Htr 83 4 8 53rd a n d 93 r d regiments, about the 14th Oct. .uOO -4 30th, Greathed would raise Havelock's army to LORD LYONS, C Onsial Craig, Csgliari, Nov, 2lth, 1857. 4 p m. kr,T, - ---urERCE FROM CALCUTTA TO TEE 22ND OCTOBER, 1857. t l l ll l l art 4 nt papers have been found in the at , Nothi ng however, of data anterior Lo a the out entt Meer ut ' 1 1 4; 41 : 4 ission has been issued for the trial of the King, " uncertain whether any promise of his life had l)lo.l4 ci Lawrence superintends the administration of the t pq t errifc r y. i lge e tl e l Greathead's column arrived at Allay Porch ißi t t a defeated th e F ana t ic s there, and marched on m grs on the sth, which they deAroyed, and reached t o Zitho 10:h, where they were attacked suddenly by eeat e reets of Undore and Ghopar, whom they soon I l liPag e lt i,ol the loss of thirteen guns. and all their camp k t rr i lle i t :lving the en. vivors across Kharee. Bled dat e from this camp is 14 . th Oct , when he ?to f l ed the Jumna, and was nuking the best of his xin-mitltu,w 1 1 4 ; 11 1 ` write (?) on the 101 Oct , that the mutineers Theil b • Walio r C ont i ngent were marc hing towards Cawn- sha usi . ii ,et, : ai telligence from Lucknow is 131 Oct. ` I uutram had urgently applied for large supp lies, 'nfo reeruents are to be organised at Allumbamek, `ta Qt ir miles from the Residency, in preference to 90Z 4 . ktopktuaication between Allumbamek and Cawnpore eY,ia,ll, but not between Allurnbamek and the Resi hee the neighbourhood of which the whole rebel force t,4 eottrated 4 ,.: 4 1 of provisions reached Allumbamek on Oct. ~hoyPawnpore. l uree or four thousand fugitives from Delhi, with ,ilar i , llo , were expected to reach She lrajpore, near k 15 , 1 14; 3 °11 Oct. 19th, but on the same day a force of With guns, from Cawnpore, attacked the rebels 011 0 „,,IY disp erse d them. 11. 1 1 8 . 4 " Singh it is certain, has turned against us, and 3. Posed that mort of the Fargo Talookdars have 11 47 t°11 cosiTs from Raja, 16th October, stating that Liento ikil: °llle's house was threatened with about 2,000 I nv/ere deterred attacking him from the prepara vig4Q made. A wing of the 17th Madras Infantry , 7,4 guns, was ordered to march to his relief , and o)i . 'the Cuttra Pass, and his position was improved. i; li ti e i to r°Peans at Saugor are still in the fort, and relief Y required. iit/11013rotraction of the contest before Delhi had begun 1 / 4 , m 0t0 the popula' ion of the Paujaub. "Itt it 'b b g,froin Rijapootana, Central India, Bandelcund, 4 CL: or Nagp:re krl is FROM BOMBAY TO 13Ta Nov., 1837. N u k ttl el'e of the King' sons have b sentenced be tt ii / I llet. - t heir executions een to was to take place on the 13th t teo 1 1 ,11 th e els at Chaudress have dispersed, and tranquility b i !° ll gb.out Gouriarat '"usel 3 are still in rebellion at Nassick, on the IoZILFB RadkAnda,h. l et in Scinde, Bombay, Ma'ras, and Nizam's 11. V 130 ARD OF TRADE RETURNS. c i 'll til tl aY, tho Board of Trade Retur ns for the k t : Ile',, -11(1 the ten months ending the 31st of 1 .,., o i 1 857, were issued. We subjoin a statei 41 % .4 411,, the total declared value of the exports . o 1 / 4 -, tl e - „ Il d Irish produce and manufactures during sl t l tll - „" t h and ten months, including only the 'rated articles : 1 1 8:i_ 5 For the month. For ten months. ''h s g "• • . £ 7,992,420 I' l ' •• • . 9,892 872 Vl: 4 7 a • • .......... 10,025,367 I N ELt it) l4 the " unenumerated articles" the , e experts stand thus th.. For the month. For ten months. 1 L .34 q '•• • • . £8,860,594 '`)7 •• • ... 10 666,951 '•• • • • 10,985,789 1 11 i .4„4 84 , fi x .„ - emester there are 80 city missionaries at an A trellditure of Er) 690, towards which 26 individuals , 0 1 : ti 44110 N 0 RUSEINN GOVERNOR.—The Ford of k,t ha the faith A o f • kiittialt4ll t? tile: Prince Gagarine, Governor General at Lbilig tl "! been assassinated by Dadech Kiliane, a 11 4 ( 1 : 110 e of a part of Mingrelia. S 4 ):: t h 4 COAL PIT.— On Monday, an inquest was 14 1 ,? t o ° ,l 3 rown Cow, Coppull, before Mr. Myres,. ye:nlag the death of James Holden, collier, w. it a peP ared that the deceased, on Saturday, th oof;:, Mr John Darlington coal mine, at Nr o w, large stone, three yards square, displaced 1, ik °f the him and killed him on the spot. 4 44 14 ma stone was from three to four tons. t: no blame attached to any one, a verdict of ‘ ll 1 " 14 4" was returned. INDIAN MUTINIES. THE FALL OF DELHI. The following is from an Engineer officer engaged in the siege : DELHI, SEPT. 23. Yon will see by the date of my letter that the task in which we have been so long engaged is at last accom plished. Delhi was assaulted, and a portion of the city captured by us en the 14th of September. Our progress from this date was slow till the 20th, when the city was evacuated by the mutineers, and we found ourselves in possession of the whole. Thus had ended what I suppose future generations will consider one of the most extraor- . dinary sieges in history. You will by the time this , reaches you have learnt 'something more of the actual! difficulties that we have had to contend against than our 'last English letters show ; but you cannot have the same 'notion of the wonderful wayin which our small force has been protected by Providence as we who have been par ticipators in all that has passed. You will hear a great deal, I will acknowledge, but there are small details which strike us so forcibly at the time of the occurrence, and 'these are so innumerable, that the most careful narrator will fail to tell all. There are so many calamities have be fallen us sincethe lath of May that one felt tempted to look upon as irretrievable at, the time, and which so short a time has sufficed to point out as the only remedies against evils of far greater magnitude. So often has our 'position seemed perfectly hopeless, and so wonderful have been our deliverances, that I cannot conceive the most scepti cal man denying events to have been brought about by a power far above human. I will only attempt to point out to you some of the most convincing proofs of what I asserteFirstly, when the mutiny broke out, see bow General Hewitt was blamed for his inactivity. 'The out cry was natural, and no one can deny that he was the most. incompetent man that could have filled snob a post. But let us for an instant suppose that some more able man had commanded at Meerut. and even that the mutiny had at its first outbreak at Meerut been quelled. Sub sequent events and disclosures have only proved to us that the outbreak has been premature, and that had it been overcome at the time it would probably have come upon us at the appointed day with a force that none of us could have hoped to withstand. Seconply, let us take the fact that the mutineers on the 10th of May found the Watergate "(to the south of the palace) open, when all others had been shut against them. I have heard many deplore this fact.; hut let us suppose otherwise. Let us suppose that all the gates in the city had been closed, and that all ingress had been impracticable. The results. I think, must have been far more lamentable even than they were. The mutineers (I think without a doubt) would not have spent much time in fruitless endeavours to enter the city, but have rushed straight up to the cantonments, where they would have been 'joined by the Native Infantry regiments there quartered. The sur prise would have been mist complete, and under the cir cumstances few indeed, if any. of us could have escaped , from cantonments, and with the prospect of the immense I plunder in the city I do not think they would have wasted much time in effecting an entrance, which would then have been most easy, and how would it have fared with those in the city ? Thirdly, we have always lamented the delay in the assistance of the European force from Bengal ireaching us. The event has shown bow far more necessary these same Europeans were down country even than up here. Fourthly, we have three time (previously to Sept. i 4) been on the point of assaulting Delhi. This was very shortly after our first arrival here on June 8. On one occasion (June 12) we had even sent out the advance eelumn. I was the senior engineer with the column, and virtually had the command of it. My instruc tions were to advance through a portion of the suburbs of Delhi (Kishengunce, Paharipore. and those villages to the right of our position on the ridge) in close column, and when within 400 yards of the city walls to extend to the right and left in skirmishing order. The suburbs that allude to, I must tell you, are chiefly composed of limp ' holed enclosures and serail which you would think had been built expressly for defensive purposes. The streets are very narrow, and the distance that we had to traverse., to reach within 400 yards of the wall, something beyond a mile. Had this position been occupied only by the merest handful of the enemy (and there was nothing to prevent its being so without our knowledge) we could certainly never have forced our way through it, and had the merest handful of the enemy only let us pass through to the extreme end of the suburbs and 'then attacked us and cut off our retreat., I really think that hardly a man of its would have escaped to tell the tale As it turned out, just as I was on the point of throwing out the skirmishers, an aide-de-camp rode up to tell me we were unsup ported, and must make the best of our way back, and he .only hoped we might get back safely. Most providentially the enemy seemed to he in perfect ignoramee of our movements, for not a shot was fired at us till we had almost reached camp again, and were very nearly out of range of the round shot from the city walls. On reaching the camp we learned that the project had miscarried., owing to a misconception of orders of Briga dier Graves, in command of a second column. Loud were the abuses heaped on this unfortunate man, who seemed (and perhaps deservedly so) the butt of everybody's censure. Of course, everybody attributed to him the loss of such a seemingly good opportunity of taking the city. I think few -would venture to say so now. My own (and, I think, the general) conviction is that our force, so con temptibly small as it then was, would have been completely lost in such an immense city, an 1, unless the enemy had been most completely panic-stricken, would have had little chance of .holding any temporary adyantage that he might have g tined in the first rush. I could enumerate instances of the same kind without number, but it would try your patience. I think few can ponder on all that has happened and imagine that our work im India is done, and that Providence has altogether forsaken us. We opened our trenches on the 7th of September, and the way in which we accomplished this was one of the most wonderful parts of the siege. Oar attack was d'vided into two—the right and left. The right was directed against the Moree Bastion, and the left, to which I was attached, was directed against the portion of the walls near the Cashmere gate and church. If you can recollect the ground at all you will remember that opposite Ludlow Castle (where Mr. S. Frazer lived) towards the river it was occupied by gardens. The distance between this position and the city is very small, within ea , y range of grapes hot from No. 2 Bastion, against which the thick brushwood was of course no protection. Breaking ground se close to the wall was a boll mauceivre, which few circumstances would justfy, and one which we fully expected would cost us many valuable lives. Judge, then, of our surprise to find scarcely any notice whatever taken of our proceedings. It is 'he more remarkable, as there seemed to be no attempt at secrecy on our part, and we ourselves could hear the enemy's sentries on the ramparts. Our working' party was an excessively large one, an I had the enemy taken common precautions (for they could not have been ignorant of our presence) they must have in flicted very heavy losses, if, indeed, they had not entirely stopped our works. Vigilant. however, as we have always found them, this first night God seemed to have blinded their eyes to all sense of danger ; fir, with the exception of one'shower of grape and two or three round shot directed at us, which injured no one. they fired away at our batteries on the ridge as usual. In the morning they acted very differently, for they commenced, and through the day kept up a very hot fire ; too late, however, for we had managed to obtain pretty good shelter by that time, and our fi rst battery on the right was not o ly finished, but armed and hard at work breaching. Yon would think that after the ex'erience of our first night they would have allowed us little peace in breaking fresh ground nearer the walls ; however, even then there was not very much fire, and it was only on the third night that they seemed to awake to a sense of their danger ; and from that time they kept up a pretty steady fire of all sorts, including musketry and we certainly lost some men. You may fancy that the engineers had little time to themselves. I was not in bed for four nights, and, as you may imagine, pretty well done up. There was only one battery (only 150 or 230 yards from the walls) to he finished, and it was the exelternent only that kept us awake. I had a party of Her Mjest v's 61st and E3ii R-gi meats under ma, filling sand b , gs, The fire was very hot, and I was anxious to get m; men under cover in sane pits, where the earth was softer to dice. I was leading them to the pit, when, the night being dark, I fell into ono that I had not seen, and sprained my ankle and leg so severely that I was obliged to be taken to camp in a dhoolie. There I lay on my back till the day of the assault. I was in my tent, away from the mess, and therefore had no op portunity of hearing anything about it till the rattle of musketry told me that something was doing. OF course, stopping in bed was out of the question, and as my charger was hors de combat, I had no choice but to mount my little pony Donald. I had my doubts about my new charger, a very pretty little beast, and perfect in every re-pnt excep courage, being one of the most determined shyers that I have ever seen. However, I had no choice for it, so I mounted, and in due course of time I found myself at the Cashmere-gate. Our columns had entered, and one had even penetrated as far as the Bank, but being unable to ct ithstand the mureerous fire, was compelle I to retreat. It was with the greatest difficulty that I could keep my seat, for on reaching the branch roads outsi.le the Cash mere-gate the bullets a'ed shot of all descriptions were flying about like hail, and one which struck close to the hoofs of my pony frightened him so that he became quite unmanageable. However, I got him through the gate, and a fearful sight it was that met my eyes. A portion of our troops had escaled the bastion walls close to the gate; others h .d scrambled up two large breaches in the walls and bastion near the Treasury. The remainder had entered at the gate itself, which had been blown open by one of our offi2ers. The lat er was really the hazardous duty of the day, and was moat gallantly performed, though in broad daylight. The explosion party consisted of Lieutenants Home and Salkeld, of our corps, a few sappers and a bugler of Her Majesty's 62d. Oa their nearing the gale they found it slightly open, with a number of muskets protruding at the opening. They were received with a volley, which killed and wounded a number. Still, however, they advanced, and fixed their powder bags on to the gate. Sergeant Carmichael, of the Sappers, tried to light the port.fire attaohed to the bags, bat was shot dead in the attempt. After him Sergeant Burnes?, of the Sappers. tried but fell, pierced with three bullets. After Sergeant Berne's, Salkeld tried, bat fell into tha ditch, shot in the leg, which is broken, and in the arm, which has bean ampstated. Ser cant Smith, of the Sappers, tried next and he and Home between them happily succeeded without a wound. Seeing the port fire well a-I;ght the whole party jumped into the ditch, and the enemy, little dreaming of what had been done, continued firing till the explosion took place, so you may fancy what effect it took. Twenty of the mutineers strewed the road inside the gate, not one of whom would it have been possible to recognise, and this was the first sight that met my eyes at the gate. Little wonder that Donald refused to move ; however, finally be did, and got as far as the cen tre of the main guard, beyond which nothing would urge him. It was perfect agony keeping my seat, and I would have given worlds to dismount—but walking was out of the question; it was anything but an agreeable fix to be in. I felt how perfectly useless I was, and being the only mounted man there in the open space, fully accounted for the number of bullets whistling past my ears. There was no help for it, so I had to make my way back to the camp as I bast could, fully convinced of my own folly. You may imagine I had done neither leg nor ankle much good by the trip, and I had not many opportaniuies of seeing the remainder of the operations. We progressed slowly after this fee- two days, but having obtained possession of the magazine containing -about 130 pas there could n 3 longer be much doubt as to the result. The enemy, who had hitherto so stoutly resisted us, was loosing heart, though he had succeeded in beating us back with loss and kept us at bay at two or three points. Daily and nightly large numbees continued to leave the city till the 20th, when we found ourselves in perfect possession, and the entire city evacuated. Immediately on receiving news of the evacuation I started for the palace. You can have no conception of the scene of confusion—Riflemen, Goorkhas, Sikhs, and Punjaubees quarrelling over their plunder, and such plunder to quarrel about! Old counterpanes, dirty blankets, tin and copper pots and pans, Sepoys' red coats, baskets, papers, packets of tinsel, bottles of rose water and otto of roses lying here, there, and everywhere, and the whole place in a state of squalor and wretchedness passing all d-scription. Oa turning into the gardens in front of Douglas's stables I found myself alma. I cannot tell you what a soene of desolation in esmted its-if to my eyes The garden had been an encamping ground of the Sepoys, and everything bore witness to its having been deserted in hot haste. TllO tents were still standing, but it seemed as if everybody had taken his armful out of the boxes and, without caring for what might drop, had made the best of his way out of the pl ice. The stilness, to, after th noise and riot that I had just quitted, was realty appalling, wadi stood at the foot of the stairs stupifi3d as it with a heated atmosphere and unable to move. I was roused by hearing three cheers from the apartments above me. * * * We have captured the King, his two sons and grandson—the three last (among whom was Mitzi Mogul Bey) were most deserve :Ay shot before thty were brought into the city, I where their b_dies were exposed in the Chauduey 2 ed t°' s bee° out t 3 npoie ng or, and s vel we are neNu s 3soll e " A, he Br is.fo. Bad 3k 136- THE NORTHERN TIMES.--LIVERPOOL, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 26, 1857. THE VOLUNTARY RATE OF 1853-4. MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE. A. meeting of the voluntary ratepayers appointed in 1853, was convened yesterday by Messrs. Hutchison and Came, the late churchwardens, for the purpose of decid ing upon some steps for the disposal of the balance of the voluntary rate still on hands, and hearing explanations in reference to it. The meeting was held at ten o'clock in the Parish Offices, Brownlow-hill. There were pre sent Messrs. Hutchison, Carne, S. B. Jackson, Denton, Luff. M`Bnight, Molyneux, and Shaw The Vestry clerk, Mr. Hart, was also in attendance. Some preliminary discussion took place in reference to the propriety of allowing reporters to be present. Mr. Carne objected to the presence of reporters, but Mr. Hutchison and Mr. Denton insisting on their being allowed to remain, and no other gentleman raising any objection. the wishes of those gentlemen prevailed. Mr. M‘Knight moved that Mr. Hutchison take the chair. Mr. Hutchison said he preferred not to do so. A meeting of the Voluntary Rate Committee was hell some months' ago, at which reporters were present. He was net there, but the proceedings of the meeting were reported, and went before the public. Ho was then evi dently from what took place considered the culprit. Mr. Came was present, and he (Mr. Hutchison) gained all the obloquy of being the obstacle in the way of a settlement of the question. Therefore, he wished to make some explanations, and did not desire to fill the chair. Mr.'Danton did not think that was a sufficient ob jection. Mr. Hutchison : I am quite willing to do what the meeting think right. Mr. Denton: I second the motion, that Mr. Hutchinson take the chair. Mr. Hutchison: Very well—then I am willing to do so. Mr. Hutchison then took the chair. The Chairman said the gentlemen present were all aware that the settlement of the balance of the voluntary rate collected in former years had been a vexed question for a long time. There were reasons which prevented a settlement, as he should explain to them presently up to this time. With a view to the settlement of the question, it had been thought desirable by Mr. Carne and himself upon consultation, that they should call a meeting of the voluntary rate ,committee, elected in 1853, and lay before them a full statement of the case. Mr. Carrie and him self entered into office as Churchwardens at the Easter of 1853. There was a voluntary rate laid at that vestry of one penny in the pound for the purposes which were then explained and laid before the meeting, and Mr. a Carno and himself were nominated members of the voluntary rate committee, in connection with several other gentlemen. Although the names of the other gentlemen were given in, and they were proposed, seconded, and elected by name, Mr. Carne and himself, with the over seers, were only placed upon the committee by virtue of their office. Iu corroboration of that statement, he begged to call attention to the report of the proceedings of that meeting, by which it would be seen that " Mr. Banner proposed that the following should constitute the, equit able rating committee for the next year :—The &lurch wardens and Overseers, and Messrs. Banner, Molyneux," &e., &c. In the list of the members of the commit tee, as recorded in the minute book of the voluntary rate com mittee, there appeared the names of all the other gentle men seriatim, and at the top the names of the churchwar dens and overseers, and at the side was bracketed, "as churchwardens and overseers." Mr. Hart : The question is—What is it in the Vestry book ? - The Chair Man . I presume it is the same as in this. Mr. Denton: It is a very important matter, because upon it hangs the constitution o the voluntary rate committee, Mr. Jackson: We were all elected together. Mr. McKnight : No, the names ware distinctly and separately proposed and seconded, with the exception of the Ch irchwardens and Overseers, so far as I can remember. The Chairman begged to call particular attention to that fact, and also to the dates as he went along, because they would have a most important bearing upon the colesti ,n in any further statement. Mr. Carne and he were merely elected to the committee, as the Church wardens of the day, and they took charge of the balance of the voluntary rate then in hand, £268, and the collection of the rate during their year of office, only as Churchwardens, and in virtue of a resolution which was passed at the first meeting of the committee, which entered upon office on the 19:h of April, 1853- It was at that meeting resolved unanimously, "that Mr Church warden Carrie be appointed Chairman, and Mr. Churoa warden!Hutchison Vice. Chairman of the Committee for the ensuing year, and that all cheques or orders for the payment of money on behalf of the Committee be signed by the Chairman or Vice Chairman, and also by the Vestry Clerk." The meeting would see by that resolution that Mr. Carne and he were recognised he their official?..capacity only, not as individuals. At the next meeting of the general vestry. in 1853, at which the Committee was appointed, Mr. Cafferate brought forward a resolution, which was agreed to unanimously, to this effect—" That this vestry, h tying learned that a further sum of money is due to some members of the Parliamentary Parish Water Committee, resolved, that the matter be referred to the Equitable Rating Com mittee, to pay them siich money as they naly eonsider just and proper." Thus, it would be seen. that a certain a meunt of discretion,was left to the committee, and that the resolution did not commit them to pay over the motley they had in hand, to the claimants in the water question. Soon afterwards, a long investigation upon the subject took place. Mr. Carne : Of which I was chairman. The Chairman said, after many weeks, or he might almost say months, spent in the investigation, the com mittee arrived at the conclusion at their meeting of the 2ad of January, 1854, that the sum of -t'2.56 be paid to the claimants pro rata. Mr. Jackson': That is to the members of the Parish Par iamentary Water Committee. Mr. Carrie: Read the condition attached to that reso lution. The Chairman said he would read it presently. 0,1 the 12th of April, 1854, a meeting of the Voluntary Rate Committee was held, at which the Vestry-clerk submitted a receipt for the amounts comprised in the several awards. The receipt was dated the 2nd M troll 1854, and ran thus :—" Received by the members of the Parish Parliamentary Committee from the Voluntary Rate Committee, per Mr. Charles Hart, the sum of £256, in the following proportions," &c., &c., and concluded thus : " which , -um we hereby declare we receive in full dis charge of our claims respectively upon the Voluntary Rate Committee, and that we will net again either directly or indirectly bring forward the said claims in any quarter." The receipt was signed by Dr. Collins, Mr. Hobbs, Mr. Atkins, and Mr. Kinder Liversedge. In April, 1854, the annual vestry was held. At that meeting the question was not brought forward, but the vestry was adjourned to the sth May, 1854 Mr. Hart read a statement of the committee there, after which the Chair man, the Rev. Rector Campbell, declared the business of the meeting to be at an end. It was requested, however, by Mr. Bingham, he believed, that the General Vestry might be considered as dissolved, and that the meeting should be resolved into a meeting of the parishioners. This was agreed to, and Mr. Campbell was requested to take the chair, not by virtue of his office as Chair man of the General Vestry, but simply in his private capacity. At that meeting Mr. Thomson proposed a resolution, that the balance of the £549 in the hands of the Voluntary Rate Committee be paid over in fair proportioss ,to Messrs. Collins, Atkins, Hobbs, and Liversedge. His resolution, after very long discussion, was carried. It was, however, a meeting nominally of the parishioners of Liverpool, who had no more to do with the disbursement of that fund than the ratepayers under the vestry. The real owners of the money were, as he was advised by the lawyers whom he had consulted, the contributors to the voluutary rate, and nobody else. This was a very important point, which the Committee would be good enough to bear in mind, because it had very great weight afterwards, as they would see when he had fully stated the position of the question. Naturally enough, as prudent men, the Churchwardens, seeing so many claimants for the money, and so much difficulty in settling the question, took a legal opinion, intending to be guided by it. Mr. Carrie and himself consulted Me. Lowndes, a gentleman who, as they all knew, stood very high in the community for his personal character and his long experience of parochial matters in Liverpool. Mr. Lewades' written opinion, dated 6th June, 1854, ran thus— TO THE cnuncriWARDENS OF TIIE PARISH OF LIVERPOOL. Gentlemen,—ln answer to your inquiry, I beg to state that I continue of opinion that no vestry, or meeting of the inhabitants of the parish, can control the custodians of the voluntary rate raised in the name of the equitable rate fund, in its application ; and particularly that no vote can oblige you to pay any part of the fund in hand in satisfaction of disputed claims, from which the various officers connected with the collection of the rates in ques tion were long ago discharged by the claimants themselves by a solemn deed of release.—l am, Gentlemen, your most obedient Servant, M. D. LowreDxs. Brunswick-street, 6th June, 1854. After having received that opinion, Mr. Carne and he took no further steps at the time. The question remained over until the Annual Vestry Meeting of April, 1856. It so happened that at that time he was confined by illness to the house, and could not attend the meeting, but he wrote a letter to the Rev. Mr. Campbell, with a request that it might be read to the meeting. The letter was as follows; Liverpcol, 24th March. 1856. My de tr Sir,—ln the Mercury of Friday last, I notice the report of a meeting of the Voluntary Rate Committee, on Wednesday, at which my name was freely used. Much misapprehension appears to prevail; and as I shall be unable to attend the vestry to-morrow, may I request the favour of your explaining to the meeting. if necessary, what I conceive my position to be with regard to the fund in question. On quitting office, last Easter,'l found myself, con jointly with my colleague, the unwilling custodian of £577 5s 10d, which remained to the credit of the equitable rating account. When the Voluntary Rate Committee was last appointed, Mr. Carne and myself were :elected to it, not THE. CAPTURE AND EXECUTION OF THE DELHI PRINCES. We (kirshire Express) have been favoured With the following extracts Loin the letter of a young officer to his friends in England. It is dated Dugshaie, a place about forty miles from Delhi, 29th September last : " A few days ago Captain Hodgson, of ours, went out and eapural the King, and brought him in a prismer. He is at present .eunfined in his own palace. A few days later he went out again, and came up with the King's sons and granthon. He had only 100 native horsemen of his own regiment with kite, and the enemy about 10,000, 3,000 of whom were fuly armed Sapoys. Hodgson saw it was of no use attacking them; so he sect an emissary to tell the prince; that tire game Ne as up with them, and that they had better surrender, which they did after some time, and came up to Hodgson, who immediately surrounded the carriage with his men. He sent for their arms, and, after besitatint some time, these also were given up, with seven el'phants and lots of stores. On re the gaol, Hodg os ordered the princes out of the vehicle; they, -.itna,gining all was not rig':t for themselves, began (native like) to talk, and say they hoped there mir,t lo:u an inquiry into th-ir conduc'. Hodgson sail c'ieeprolts ' (be quint), and ordered theca to take eff all their fine clothes. When this was done, he said, now get-in again,' and ordered the driver to proceed. He then beckoned to one of his men and asked for a c irbine, and, with his own hand, shot each and all of the three princos. He then took the bodies into toe city and laid them out for inspection in front of the Ketasd ie, where these wretches had laid out their victims &ring the ma suer - . Viers are lass upon lacs of treasure and prizr property in the city, and if the city i self was put up for rannom it would fetch 'upwards of fill lace. lam suffering again from my wound ; directly one abeose hex's another comes. Dr. probed the woonri the other t",y, and he says fiva or Fix nieces of bane have s - i:1 to come away. I have talon out five pieces already, an I had three abccess ; the fourth is now forming." • PLUNDER OFDELIII. A. private letter from 11 - 31 hi, dated September 27, says:— " For a d scfiption of the riclis of Delhi my pen is inad rquate. Cashmere sha.vs, inlaid with g .id, bodies covered with gold lace, skirts of dresses, watches, bars of gold, beds of silk and down, such as no nobleman's minsicn in Enaland could produce—you would see Sikhs corrying out of D lhi the first day as it they were almost nothing. A shawl which in Eoglar.d would tech £lOO they were sell ing for four rupees, and you may depend our fellows were unt behind them. It is suppised the Rlfl , 2s will go to Eogiat:d with np,vards of £l,OOO etch, though General Wilson issued an order that the prizes shall be all pat tog-ether rind d.vided. Mat of our men are worth upwards of 100 rupees. CORONER'S COURT.---Yesterday, the adjourned inquest on the body of James Wiley, was resumed. The me deal evidence went to show that death was the result of con jest'on of the brain, brought on by an over dose of laudanaum. The jury found accordingly, and that deceased had taken the dose whilst in a state of temporary insanity. S ,HTII LANCASHIRE B !OK-HAWKING ASSOCIATION.- -The Earl of Derby and the Earl of Sefton have accepted the office of patrons of this Association, and the former noble man, in addition to a letter expressing his approval of the obj€cts of the Association, has forwarded a donation of £2O to the Treasurer. In spite of the gloomy state of business affairs, the energetic promoter and secretary of the Asso ciation. Mr Hunter, has received a considerable number of donations an I subscriptions during the last few weeks, and promise of support and co-opetation from all pans of the district. PASSENGERS PER BALTIC, FOR New YORK.—Messrs. J. Waldon, Wm. Nott, T. Skiff, F. H. Taylor, J B. Marie, Stephenson, Smith, Lafomcado, W. Gibson and lady, R. E. Jenks and lady, C. S. Starr and lady, F. Chigizirla, G. Jones, Gibson, jun , F. H. Jenks, Miss Starr, Mrs. W. May, Mr. Henning and lady, three eh ldren, and gcver ness, Dr. Parker and lady, Mr. J. IL Black, Mr. C. Peirson and lady, Miss Devlin, Mrs. Horner Mrs. Tantilin, Mrs, Sweeney, Messrs. Me.) er, Shorivell and lady, W. Cerenne. J. B. Windle, F. Martin, Dr. C. Everstkld, Messrs. D. Stewart, Maury, H Rice, Richards, C. M'Cune, Versepup, Friesman, Scott, S. Stewart, jun., Bernard, Dorey, and G. Jones. PASFFNGFRS per the Montreal Ocean Stem Ship Corn navy's screw-steamer Indian, Captain Thomas Jone', gR bee to Liverpool.—Mr. A. E. Jones, Mr. A. M. Della tare, Mrs. Bailey, M'. W. B. Morris, Mr. Henry May. Mr. Weir, Captain Williams, Mr. D. R , Jbertsou, Mr. Baliner, M-. Farq char, Mr. Tate, Major Currie, Lieutenant Tryon, Mr. Grubb, Mr. Goodier, Mr. Bailey, Rev. Mr. Palmer and lady, Miss Palmer, M'sses Fanny, Margaret, and Hester Paltu , --r, Masters Arthur and Power Palmer, nurse and infant, Miss; Crawford, Mi-s Cleghorn, Miss Fisher, Rev. Mr. Rontier, Rev. Mr. Paton, Mr. H. Howison, Mr. `'math, Mrs. Smith and servant, Miss Ballingall, Mr. and Mrs. Ingram, Mr. Thomas Casson, Colonel ILlthworih, Mr. C. Neville, Mr. Arthur, Mr. Bartwts le, Mr. Wade, Miss M'Arthur and servant, Mr. D Hutton, Mr. E. M'Donald, Mr. Harvey, Mr. A. F. B Vidal and two sans, Captain Fisher, Messrs. Stephenson and Connally, Messrs. Bellarirs, Harvey and Bure, Miss Christie, Mr. and Mrs. Burrows and four children, Dr. R. Miller, Messrs. Sheffi-ld and Aitken, Messrs. Alexander and Meldrurn, Captain Ror, Mr. Carlton, Messrs. Parker and Ritchie, Mr. Joseph Perrault, Mr. William Bark r, Mr Alexander Kelly, Mr. A. Murray, and Mr. J. A. Cleg.r.-77 cabin passengers and 153 steerage passengers. THE LATE GENERAL NEILL —At a meeting of the Com missioners of Supply of the county of Ayr, the chairman, Colonel J. Ferrier Hamilton, called attention to the lamented death of one of their number, General Neill, Sir James Fergusson, of Kilkerran, proposed, and Mr. James Campbell, of Craigie, seconded the following resolu tion, which was unanimously agreed to :—" That the Corn. missioners of Supply desire to record the regret and sorrow which they have felt in hearing of the death of the late General Neill, and their deep sense of the loss the country at large has sustained in the untimely end of that gallant general's career, who, during the short period of his service in Bengal, had contributed so largely, by his energy, courage, and military skill, to the check which has been given to the revolt of the native army, and to the brilliant achievements of the British forces and the loyal portion of the native army. That the chairman shall convey to the bereaved widow and mother of General Neill a copy of the foregoing resolution, in the hope that this expression of sympathy, combined with the recollection of his glorious death, and the universal admiration of his great qualities and services, may afford to them some consolation under their deplorable calamity." by name, but as the churchwardens, and rthus became invested with a certain control over this fund in that capacity. My right, however, to exercise any official functions, ceased the moment I resigned office into the hands of my successor, and, with this ant, my privilege of interfering, directly or indirectly, in parish affairs, or in any matter in which I had become vested with authority, by virtue of being a parochial officer. ;Further, this fund belongs not to the parishioners of Liverpool, as a body, but to those ratepayers only who' have contributed to it. Whether the Voluntary Rate Committee, as at present constituted, or the church wardens, or both jointly, are the parties entitled to claim the fund on behalf of such ratepayers, is a point upon which opinions differ. One thing is certain, that my late colleague and myself hold this money in trust for others. The right of ownership must exist somewhere ; and when the rightful owners are for,hconaing, then we will hand over the whale sum entire. But, as far as lam concerned, I will hot consent to make any partial payments, after the notice given by some pretended clainitants, that, whenever such are made, they will at once commonce actions at law against myself and Mr. Came. There are yet other considerations affecting my position on this question, not to be lost sight of—to understand which, I must briefiy call your attention to the following circumstances At the close of the year 1854 the Select Vestry, upon the recommendation of the medical relief committee, voted certain gratuities, amounting to £469 lie. 61, to the various officers who had so praiseworthily , and laborionsly exerted .themselves during the time the cholera was• prevalent here, and I was ordered, as chairman of the finance committee, to sign cheques for the amounts. ,In accordance with my instructions I did so, and the money was paid. The government auditor, at his audit in July last, decided that these payments were illegal, " the said Select Vestry not having first obtained the sanction and authority of the Poor Law Board aforesaid," and sur charged me with the amount. I had the right of appeal to the Poor Law Board, of which, of course, I availed myself, and this stayed proceedings for the time. neanwhile I commenced a long correspondence with the board in London, and after being kept fire months in suspence, lat last received a formal notice " that the said disallowance and surcharge were lawfully made," but that the "subject matter thereof was incurred under such circumstances as make it fair and equitable that the same should be remitted." Surely, the experience before me of the danger I incurred even when acting under the orders of the Select Vestry, and, as .I and they conceived, in accordance with the law, it is not unreasonable to ask for an indemnity from the party to whom I ma) elect to pay this money, when so many are squabbling about the ownership.—l am, my dear sir, very faithfully yours, Rev. Aug. Campbell. ROBT. HUTCHI3ON. With regard to one part of that letter which referred to a question of law, he should explain, that he had received the previous week, as had Mr. Cares and Mr. Hart also, a formal notice from Mr. Morecroft, that in case they expended one penny of that money, there would instantly come a law snit against them. Mr. Jack Son : At whose suit ? The Chairman : Mr. Kinder Liversidge's. The folloWing is the letter I received :- 6, Clayton-square, Liverpool, March 24, 1856. SIR,—We beg leave, on behalf of Mr. Kinder Liver sidge, to call your attention to the following resolution, passed at the general Vesty held in M ty, 1854 : " That the balance, .e 549, in the hands of the volnntary rate committee, be paid, in fair proportions, to Messrs. Collies, Atkins, Hobbs, and Livers idge." We need not remind you that this resolution was passed after the " rceipt in full" had been signed by our client. The complexion of the affair was completely altered by this resolution, and we cannot conceive upon what equita ble ground you refuse to carry out the resolution of the ptrishioners, and to pay our client his proportion 3f the sum of £549. We think it a fitting opportunity, on the eve of the Easter Vestry, to bri ig the matter under your notice, and, more particularly so, as we are instructed if Mr. Liversidge's pro'portion of the above sum, amounting to , e 1.42 8s 44, be nit paid in our hands within twenty-one days from this date to institute oath legal proceedings as the justice of the case may require. Wo write this letter in duplicate, and send the other copy to your co-treasurer, Mr. Carrie. We also write, with a copy of this letter, to Mr. Hart, the Vestry-clerk.— We are, sir, your obedient servants, Rout. Hutchison, Esq., JNO. & Menacaoer. That vestry, it would be recollected, was a very stormy one. It continued until a very late hour in the day, after four o'clock, and broke up in great confusion. Tne subject of the voluntary rate never came forward at that vestry. Nothing was doneduring the following few mpnths, until the Annual Vestry Meeting of the 14th of April, 1857, the present year. He attended that meeting in person, in tending to make a full explanation of the whole matter to the parishioners at large. That meeting alsolasted until after four o'clock in the afttrnoon. It was of course quite fresh in the recollection of all present that that meeting broke up, like the former, in ceefusion, and he had no opportunity of bringing forward the subject. The opportunity which he desired he had not had until the present day, from various causes which it was not neces sary to explain. Therefore, it was that after consulting with Mr. Carne he determined to summon together the Voluntary Rate Committee appointed in 1353. to meet there, and to take.the subject into consideration, in order thet they mig'et; decide upon the best cOursap beadopted f(>:' the settlement of that long-vexed question. Now, he thought it would not be out of place to state, if Mr. Carne was willing, the differences of opiuion which pre vailed between that gentleman and himself, in reference to the settlement of the question, in • the conversations they had had upon the subject. There were a few salient points with regard to the settlement of the question, which he thought it right to bring before the committee, because they would enable the members tar better to understand, what was ,his own as well as Mr. Carne's position with respect to it, and the difficulties which opposed their path at every stage. an 3, perhaps, make them better able to devise 81r03 moans whereby the question might filially be settled. Now, the first proposition of Mr. Carne was, that they should make certain payments out of the fund, and defy Mr. Liversidge and his friends—torte them, in fact. into an action, and let the question be tried in a court of law. To that course he (elr. Hutchison) had always offered the most uncompromising opposition, because when they had placed themselves in the heeds of a lawyer in 1854, and got the opinion which he hid jest read, it seemed to him that they ought to abide by thet opinion —and espe cially so, because it happened to be exactly his own view of the case. His opinion was, that Mr.. Carrie and he ceased to have any right to exercise authority in the management of the fund, or in parochial affairs, and it therefore became the bounden duty of them to hand the money over entirely to some persons, whosoever ;they might be, whom they should find to be the owners of it. From the proposal, therefore, of Mr Carne, he dissented, and had ever held the same opinion regarding it. The second proposal which they considered was, that they should call a meeting of the voluntary rate subscribers, whom he always held, and still did believe, to be the only parties capable of dealing with the funds, or deciding as to its application, and whatever the majority would decide on let him and Mr. Carne be absolutely bound by. This was his (Mr. Hutchison's) proposal, but to this Mr. Carrie objected, and no doubt he had very good and substantial reasons in his own mind, fur declining to agree to it. Perhaps, it might not be inopportune there. to mention that he perfectly agreed with Mr. Carrie in regard to the settlement of the claims which had been set up by Mr. Liversidge and his friends. Up to the time of the Easter vestry 0te1855, he certainly would not have consented, any more than Mr. Gime, to give those gentlemen one sixpence more out of the fund, but when they ceased to hold office as churchwardens, then he thought the question was altered altogether, because, if they handed over the fund to whomsoever had the right of ownership, then they were not responsible for the acts of those who received it, in dealing with the money afterwards. The third proposal was, that altheiugh 'there had been differences among themselves, and also among the lawyers, as to the constitution of the Voluntary Rate Committee, and whether the committee of 1853 expired at the vestry meeting of 1854, by flexion of time, and by no: having been then re-elected, yet, for the purpose of settling the question, all difference of opinion should be laid aside—and he was quite wenn,/ to forego his private opinion in regard to that point—and that they should assume the committee of 1853 to ha still in existence. Then, assuna'n' , a meet ing of the Committee to be called, he proposed to Mr. Carne that they should abide by the decision of the majority, and hand over the money to whomsoever should be there nominated.' (Hear, hear.) Mr. Carne objected to that. Mr. Carne would give his reasons, no doubt, presently, which might be fully as good as he (Mr. Hutchison) Zcould advance for his decision. Another course would be for Mr. Cane and himself to resign their offices as chairman, vice-chairman, and treasurer into the hands of the Committee, and then leave the Committee to deal with the fund, or the Committee might rescind the resolution appointing them chairman, vice-chairman, and treasurers, and require them to deliver back the balance. Another course occurred to him. If he was right in his construction of the resolution of the General Vestry, and Mr. Carne and himself were only elected to the Committee as Churchwardens officially, let them hand over the money to the Churchwardens who succeeded them. This question would have blcome more complicated if the same Churchwardens had not been re elected this present year, but fortunately the same gentlemen were still in office who succeeded Mr. Carne and himself immediately on their resigning their office. Mr. Hart : The resolution passed by the General Vestry was, " that the following gentlemen be appointed a Committee to be styled the Voluntary Rate Committee —namely, the Churchwardens and Overseers." &.!. That does not say the Churchwardens and Overseers for the time being. Mr. Carne: That raises a question of law. The Chairman: The rresolution quite bears out what I hold, for the names of Mr. Came and myself do not appear in it at all. Mr. Hart : 'You are described by your titles. The Chairman said the question was at least a moot point on which lawyers were divided, and that was therefore one of the difficulties which stood in the way of a settleMent of the question. Assuming then that the Churchwardens on', took charge of the fund in their official capacity. his fifth proposition was that they should hand over the money to the Churchwardek is who sucigteded them, and not care at all ho , v the I resent ClAurchwardens disposed of it. Mr. Carne also of Ajected to. that proposition. Mr. Came : Nay:nay. The Chairman So I under: tood you. Mr. Came: Say then only that you understooi 1 so, I 4eny it. The chairman was perfectly willing to qualify i tin that way. He understood, in a conversation he had v :Rh Mr. Carne upon the subject, that he objected to that course. If Mr. Came agreed to it, he could tell the corns aittee so presently. It would be now for the meeting. ha ving con sidered all these different modes and proposals for a settlement, to decide what should be the course selected. When the meeting recollected that the churchwardens had received notices that as soon as they paid a way 61 of the money, actions would be commenced agai nst them, they would see that Mr. Carne and himself wee e justified beingin cautious as to the course they shat uld adopt. They mi ght have their private opinions as to tt) 3 probable issue of such actions, but they would have. at least to defend them up to a certain stage, and, al thouch the result might be against Mr. Liversidge and I its friends, and might saddle them with the taxed costs, still every one was aware that in any case a considerable amount of legal expense must fall upon parties defendin an action. It was not right that Mr. Carrie and himse tf, who had already given much time and trouble, and undt rgone much persoaal inconvenience, ,hould be placed in Eat .h a position as to have to pay the coats out of their own poe 'sets. tinder these circumstances, he hoped - the comer &tee would think him justified in taking some steps to elieve them selves of the responsibility. Mr. Carne remarked that there was one pole t upon which the Chairman did not appear to have la id sufficient stress. It was this, that when the Chairmax and he came into office a fresh resolution was passed as regarded the mode in which the voluntary rate should be disbursed for the future. They came into office with a balance, but after that balance had been appropriated tt the pullpose for which it was intended, a certain ri solution was Passed, proposed, he believed, by Mr. Will mer, as to the mode in which the fund should be thereafter conducted. It would be found that in that resolution not one word' was said about any payment to the Parlian tentary Water Committee. Mr. Hart: The resolution you speak of 'a as passed the year before you came into office, and it vo; is proposed by Mr. John Smith. Mr. Hart read the res olution, which was as follows : "It was moved by Mr. John Smith. a ?oondeci by Mr. M'Knight, and resolved :—That the fol lowing be the primary object of attention on the p; ,rt of the equitable rating committee now appointed : Fir st, to secure justice to all classes of the parishioners, t )y enforcing by any lawful means the due valuation and t rating of all property that ought to contribute to the parochial burthens.' Secondly, to watch all local and general applications to parliament that may affect the into Tests of the parish; to promote such enactmen's as a re calculated to be beneficial, and to oppose any that ma iy appear prejudicial. Thirdly, to'afford assistance to such, public objects and such persons as the parish is inter !sled in assisting on clearly public grounds, but for wb ictt purposes the law has not provided funds; any grant ce: money, however, not being authorised until a majority o f two-thirds of the committee present, when duly conven ed, has recorded a vote in favour of entering upon the subject connected with it." Mr. Carne said, after such a re •solution as that he considered that the committee were bound to see that the money afterwards collected was applied only to the purposes specified there. Whilst he was chairman, a resolution was passed that the thing should be re-opened, and the claimants heard again upen the subject. He did not think any committee which ever sat paid more attention to a sul.;ject and were more careful in endeavour ins., to do justice. They found an immense number of claims, and allowed many or them tehich perhaps ought not to have been allowed. They alltewed a sum of 4100 for interest. In payments they ma de to the claimants, out of the balance previou , ly in hand, amounted to within £32 of the original demand, s.nd it was then agreed that there should be an end of the claim, because the claimants had been quarrelling erelong themselves, and called for interest at 20 per cent. ;Aid 30 per cent.; and it was therefore resolved that no payment should be made unless a receipt were given in full of all claims, with a declaration that they would not agitate the question either directly or indirectly for the future. Now, he would ask the meeting how any Committee could have taken greater safeguards than they did is that respect ? It might have been wrong of them to pay anything at all. In that they wore more to blame perhaps than in anything else, but they did it on the ground that there was a balance collected before the passing of Mr. Smith's resolution out of which to pay it. But he maintained that after that resolution had placed the thing upon a new footing, with a new Committee and a new collection altogether, they were now bound -to abide by that resolution altoother. With regard to the Committee, he had always been of opinion it was still existing, although he had much doubt whether, from the wording of the resolution, Mr. Hutchi son and himself were clearly entitled to hold office. It was a doubtful point even to the lawyers themselves, because the resolution did not meption whether they were to hold their seats upon the commit tee, by virtue of their office. He had been always of opinion that the committee were the parties to dispose of the money. He considered himself as a trustee for the money, and that the committee were trustees ; and he could on no consideration be induced to consent to pay money over again, for which they had already got a receipt in full. No resolution of any committee, however constitutcd, authorising him to sign such a cheque, could make him do it. Nothing but an action in a court ofjust ice, decided against him on that point, could induce him to consent to such a course. lie would ask thorn who, in a court of justice, having a receipt in full o' all claims, would be compelled to pay them over again ? Mr. MlClight : I believe I threatened you with an action if you paid any of the money away, and expressed a vory strong opinion upon it ? Mr. Came : You did, and hall-a.dozen others, Mr. M`Kni4ht. Referring to the resolution proposed by Mr. Higham at the meeting of parishioners, Mr. Carne reminder) the committee that Rector Campbell declared he could not receive a resolution directing a further pay ment out of the funds, but could only receive a recotn m mdation to the voluntary rate committee to that effect. With regard to the differences of opinion between himself and his friend, he was sorry to see the fund so long lying useless, but the churchwardens at present in office, acting under the advice of their lawyers, refused to take charge of it. Mr. Hutchison and himself therefore continued as trustees for the proper management of it. He was always willing to sign a cheque for anything the committee decided upon, recognising that they had the power to appropriate the money, excepting it was an order to pay over the money to the parliamentary water committee, which he considered illegal. So long as the c-immittee acted up to the resolution passed by the General Vestry as to the manner of appropriating the money, ho considered himself bound to sign the cheques, and was willing to do so !He set Mr. Liversidge and all hii friends at defiance. A man must, at some time or other, run some risks. Although he could not at all afford to pay Money out of his own pocket, yet, he was willing to run some risk in (vier to have some good done with the money. As a trustee, he had a right to consider whether he wa; acting legally- or not. If the committee considered that the present churchwardens were entitled to receive the money. and, if the latter would take tho charge of it, he thought they would be quite exonerated in law, because the churchwardens were naturally the custodians of it after Mr. Hutchison and himself. He had always refused to give Mr. Liversidge any ground for hoping to get any more, and ho really thought that, having received within £32 of the original claim, there could be hardly any grouud for a claim now of £520. Mr. Denton said he believed the present churchwardens had no objection to receive the money if they got an in demnity. ' The Chairman said he had forgotten to mention that a ew months ago a meeting of the Voluntary sate Com .. mittee was held in that room, at which his name was very freely introduced ; at which Mr. Carne was present and he was not. It resulted in Mr M`Knight's movin*that the Rev. Rector Campbell, the Vestry Clerk, and Mr. Came accompany him (Mr. Hutchison) to Mr. Lowndes' office, and lav oefore that gentleman a fell statement of the business for his professional opinion, and that they bo instructed to act upon that opinion. The opinion of Mr. Lowncle3 he had thtere in writing, although the interview then proposed did not take place, for Campbell, Mr. Carne, and Mr. Hart did not c - me to him. Mr. Lowndes' opinion with regard to the payment was this—" J hive received your note, and I think you take a very correct view of your position as to the voluntary rate fund ; and that it would be impolitic of you to disr_lse of it in piecemeal, as proposed by your late colleague, Mr. Carne." Mr. Hart : You went for his legal opinion; .yon did not go for his opinion as a m itter of policy. The Chairman : But if it be impolitic, I shall not do an impolitic act if I know it. Mr. Jackson, in order to bring the question to a conclu sion, proposed the following resolution:— " That a public meeting be convened of the contributors to the voluntary rate for the year 1853-4 only, by repeated advertisements in all the local papers, for the purpose of electing a Committee to dispossl of tip funds in hand, is in accordance with the specifi.d purposes for which the rate was contributed." Mr. Denton seconded the motion ; and asked the Chair man what couriw he was prepared to take in the event of it being carried. The Chairman said he would be ready to hand the money over, so far as he was concerned, to who-nsoever the meeting of contributors should appoint, absolutely, and without enquiring how they disp )sed or it. Mr. Carne said he should not oppose having the money paid over, but he desired to give this caution—that, in the event of any portion of it being subsequently di s bursed to any gentleman who had a lready given a receipt in full of all claims, he and his friends might deem it necessary to take legal proceedings. The question was then put, when there appeared— • For the resolution : The Chairman, Mr. Jackson, and Mr. McKnight. Against : Messrs. Luff and Molynenx. Mr. Carus declined to vote. The motion was therefore declared carried"' This concluded the proc,eedings., .