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THE subject of Public Banking has within the last few years has brought so prominently forward, and has been so thoroughly discussed, that in tionotniting the formation of a new Banking in Liverpool, it would be siipe nous to attempt any futher devoipement of its general prin iples, or to descant upon its, veculiar advantages, wnich are d übtless well understood and duly appeciated by the enterpr . isi ► Inhabitants of a town which, in a commercial point of vie , ranks second only in importance to the Metropolis of the E pire. It is true that we have ahead!, several put-Stock Banks in the town ; but of these the majority are erely Branches of Manchester Establishments. and their erations are ei,lier wholly or partially controlled by the Directors of their respective Head Offices in Manchester. The vast magnitude and growing importance of the Trade of Liverpool present a wide and rapidly extending field for another Local Joint-Stock Bank. established upon a sound and popular basis, and which, though essentially local and inde pendent in its character and therefore exempted froM the risk and uncertainty incident to, and indeed inseparable from the precarious working of a com pli cate d appara t us o f distant Branches, will nevertheless afford every requisite facility for the receipt and payment of money, by means of arrangements made with existing Banks, iu various parts the Kingdom. 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The business of the Bank will be conducted by a Board of Directors, not exceeding six in number, and a Manager elected by the Sh are h o ld ers from their own body, at a Public Meeting to be convened by advertisement, as soon as the Committee shall consider it advisable to proceed to the legal organization of the Company. The Accounts of the Company to be laid before the Proprie tors at a General Meeting to be 1141 on the first of May annually. The scale of voting to be as follows : viz., for ten Shates, one vote; fifty Shares, tw o votes; one hundred Shares, three votes; two hundred Shares, four votes; and for three hundred Shares, and upwards, five votes; but no individual Proprietor to be entitled, under any circumstances, to wore than five votes. No person to hold fewer than five Shares, or more than five hundred, and a Director not less than one hundred Shares. Applications for Shares will be received between the hours of twelve and two daily, at the Clarendon-rooms, by the Provi sional Committee, now fornied or by Messrs. LOWNDES and ROBINSON, Solicitors, Brunswick-street. A REAL BLESSING TO MOTHERS. MRS. JOHNSON'S AMERICAN SOOTHING SYRUP, FOR CHILDREN CUTTING THEIR 'TEETH. This infallible Remedy has preserved hundreds of Children, when thought past recovery, from Convul sions arising from painful dentition. As soon as the Syrup is tubbed on the Gnms, the Child will be relieved, the Gums cooled, and the inflammation reduced. It i s a Innocent as t fficacious, tending to produce the Teeth wit ease; and so pleasant that no Child will refnse to let its G ut be rubbed with rt. When Infants are at the age of four ntbs, the Syrup i should be rubbed on the Gurus; and Parc, should never be without (he Syrup in the Nursery where tl` re are young Chil dren, for, it' a Child wakes in the night with pains in the Gums, the Syrup immediately gives ease, thereby preventing Convul sinus, Fevers, Stc. .. . . .The great siiccess.pf this' Medicine during the last twenty-five .vears has induced unprincipled. persons to imitate it under the ilame of A' Ameiicab SoOthing Syinp," and copying •P4rts of .Mis.lohnson!s Bills, Ste. ' Parents.will, therefore, he very par tihrlar to ask for JOHNSON'S AMERIC4N SOOTIIING SYRUP, and to notire that - the parnes of " nARCLAY and SoN.s, %i.. Varringdop-sfreet, Lnntlon," (to whom Mri. Johnson has sold tire Recipe,l is on the Stalin) affixed to each Bottle. Imperial Varliament. HOUSE OF LORDS, WEDNIZSD4Y, FEB. 23. The Lord Chancellor entered the house at half-past iwch e, and took his seat on the woolsack. The Bishop of Bristol read prayerKlind after a short delay the peers proceeded to St. Jaines's,.to present the address agreed on last night in the House of Lords. The atteddance of peers was extremely thin. Those who went with the address were, the Lord Chancellor. and Lords Wharncliffe, Shaftesbury, and Gage. The proposer of the address, Lord Hardwicke, was to meet them at the palace. HOUSE OF COMMONS—WEDNESDAY. CONTINUATION OF THE ADJOURNED DEBATE ON THE ADVRESS. Mr. WARD followed Mr. Robinson, and denied that he was actuated by factious motives in voting for the amendment. Lord SzoitsioNT replied to the observations of Mr. Ward, and took that oppintunity of explaining an expression attri buted to him as having been spoken at a conservative dinner, upon which Mr. Ward had in h►s speech made some comments. His lordship said that he certainly used the words, "I hate the word Reform." It was so in all the papers, but they were not charitable enough to add what followed. He afterwards said, "But I take the word Reform as it is used by those who seek the destruction of the institutions of the country, and there is much in the name and word I dislike when I hear it so applied. If the word Reform means the amendment of our institutions i;nareforraei;inii if, orTthe contrary, it means the destruc tion of those institutions, I am an anti-reformer." Those were the words he made use of, and to that statement he now ad hered. But the hon. member asked why he had not before con: tratlicted them ? Why, he had seen himself night and morning abused in the papers, but he treated such abuse with perfect contempt, and should continue to do so. He left his defence in the hands of parliament, as he considered that it was the right place to justify his conduct when it was assailed. (Hear.) Capt. BERKELEY would vote for the amendment of Lord Morirtli. He had been brought up an old constitutional whig, and uid not consider that the amenoment had auy tendency to infringe upon the privileges of the crown. . Lord STANLEY could not support the amendment. He was, however, opposed to the assumption of the whole executive power by the Duke of Wellington, and thought that proceeding should not be allowed to pass without some comment on the part of the House of Commons. He regretted that his majesty's ministers had not been More explicit on the subject of the in tended corporate reforms. He concurred in opinion with his noble friend (Lord Sandon) that the broad principle on which they ought to act was nut to coadeniu measures before they had an oppottunity of judging of them. In giving his assent to the address, it did nut necessarily embrace a negative on the one hand, nor on the other pledge bim to the details of the measures which might be brought forward. Ile should wait anxiously, but with patience and forbearance, to see bow the promises of his majesty's ministers would be fulfilled, holding that this line of conduct was in strict conformity with the declaration he had made to his constituents. He could not but look upon the present proceeding but as having been introduced for the mere purpose of achieving the overthrow of the government, in order to effect a party triumph, which it was not intended to follow up, and which could not indeed be followed up without causinggreat . embarrassment at the present moment. (Hear, hear, hear.) After alluding to the circumstances under .which Mr. Pitt carried on the government with a minority in the house, he asked, with reference to thellissolution of the late parliament, were they acquainted with all the circumstances which had led to the dissolution of the late cabinet? Did they know the com munications which had passed between his majesty and Lord Melbourne, or were they in possession of the conversation that occurred at the time of his removal? He would not express any opinion as to whether that dissolution was wise or prudent, but he did object to the present amendment to the address, be cause it manifested a willingness to prejudge the question as to whether the dissolution was necessary or not. He also objected to the declaration contained in it that the spirit or the principles of the reform bill were endangered by that dissolution, because if such were the case the reform bill itself would be of no possi ble avail. If an appeal on the part of the government to the constituency of the country would have the effect of endangering reform, all fie could say was that he begun to doubt how far that great measure was salutary; but such was his respect for the reform bill, and so high was the opinion which he entertained of the good sense of the constituency, that for his part lie was troubled with no misgivings or apprehenwns on the suhj ect. ( Hear.) He was satisfied that no government could exist in the.country which would have the power of impeding or endan gering the course of rational, temperate, and salutary reform; rid he did think therefore that no circumstances whatever could k se which could prevent the extension of its spirit for all use f a d necessary purposes. (Hear, hear.) After combating the uments of Mr. Ward,' the noble lord continued,—the ~ir speec .itself plornised that measures should be submitted to their considdration, and without they saw them how could they be able to decide whether they were substantial or illusory, or whether or not they would be sufficient to remove the abuses existing in the churches of England and Ireland ? (Cheers.) But:what did the amendment propose ? Why, that they should declare their readiness to correct those abuses in the . church which disturbed the peace of Ireland. The right honourable gentleman last night pointid out this ambiguity, and also what the abuses that disturbed the peace of Ireland were. Did the hon. gentleman mean to refer to the systeM by which the pro testant clergy were paid, or did he refer to their distribution in that country . ? No doubt the hon.. gentleman referred to the latter question, and not to the tithe question ; but it was well known that it was the tithe question which alone disturbed the peace of Ireland, although the . other might in some degree minister to the excitement prevalent in that country. Until the tithe question was settled, and a remedy applied to that evil, it would be hopeless to expect peace in Ireland. But with respect to the existence of a protestant church in that country it was a separate question, and he for his part would never consent to any Measure which he thought was calculated to endanger the stability of that establishment. (Loud cheers.) It was on the grounds which he had now stated, and he believed that other gentlemen would act on similar grounds, that he felt himself compelled to withhold his assent from the.amendment proposed by his noble friend, because nyacceding tothat-arnend meut he would, in the first place, appear to concur in that from which he dissented, namely, the introduction of a question of which it was not fair to judge; and in the next, that be believed the carrying ofsuch a motion would produce, under the present circumstances of parties, nothing but disaster to the country and the wise of reform—(cheers) —he meant the sudden over throw of the present administration, whose measures he thouriit it was impoftant that they should see. (Loud cheering.) He felt that he was bound in . honour and in justice to do all in his power to enable his Majesty's government to bring their pro jected measures forward, although he had found itimpossible to join their administration, notwithstanding he had .been re quested to take a part in it. His doing so, however, would have been inconsistent with his principles and feelings; but, though standing in that position, and having no wish but to discharge his duty as a representative, au independent man, and a zealous reformer, but earnest to prevent destruction—(cheers)--he felt, for the reasons he had mentioned, compelled to assent to au address to the King, though it shadowed out less than he could have desired, and he opposed the . amendment, which contained much of which he approved, and a great deal to which he ob jected. The noble lord resumed his seat amidst loud cheers, and a great number of the members immediately after left the house. Dr. LUSIIINGTON had listened with great attention to the speech of Sir Robert Peel, and heard whir feelings of great sa tisfaction the right hon. baronet's announcement that he was ready to take upon himself the responsibility consequent upon the dismissal of the late administration. That principle ad mitted, the next consideration was, whether the reasons given were such as ought to satisfy the house. ( Hear, hear, hear.) The learned doctor then proceeded to comment on the causes of the dismissal of the Melbourne cabinet—the Duke of Wel lington and his holding office previously to the return of Sir Robert Peel from Italy. The doctor concluded by saying that the present government attempted to stren g th en th e i r wea k ness by a vain adulation of the noble lord. Like one of the weird sisters they hailed the scion of the house of Stanley with " Mi nister that shall be ;" they besought him "Hear us in our ex tremity; save us in our misery—(laughter)—as you are power ful be merciful. Oh hard-hearted lord—(Laughter) —flinty statesman—(Laugliter)—Voll have risen and professed your want of confidence in us!' He (Dr. lishington) was happy to find that the noble lord was not, like the person tempted by the a, eird sisters, won to his destruction ? and he would say to the noble lord, " Let no blandishments induce you to stniport those against whom you have striven with a power that delight ed your country.—(Laughter on the ministerial benches.) Yon have nothing in common with them, whilst with those whom they have superseded you differed on the tithe question alone. (Oh, oh, from the ministerial benches.) The hon. and learned `gentleman then proceeded to rebut a charge made against him by the boo. member for Lincoln. He denied that he had ever spoken diarepectfully of Royalty, and adduced the testimony or Lord Eldon as to the propriety of the mantler in which he had conducted himself whilst defending the late Queen Caroline. Mr. PRAED said that the hon. and learned gentleman had attempted to justify an address which he had delivered out of doors by a reference to the propriety of the course which be had pursued some years ago in the capacity of an advocate in the House of Loras. An advocate in the discharge of his duty ought to receive every possible indulgence; but that was not the case with a member of parliament. The latter could not be justified in addressing grossly intemperate expressions, such as the hon. and learned gentleman was said to have used, to a readily inflammable constituency. (Hear, bear.) The learned gentleman referred, in the course of his speech, to the language used by the members of the late parliament, in reprobation of the acts of that bogy, and particularly to that of Colonel E va n s , the member for Westminster, who asked whether, (in con sequence of those acts,) if sent back to their constituents, they could expect agaiu to be returned to that house ? (Hear.) He (Mr. Praed) could not see how the advocates for short parliaments could complain of the dissolution of the late par liament, which bed sat the average time that their favourite measure, triennial parliaments, would admit of; or how it mili tated against their popular aphorism, as applied to parliaments, that "short reckonings made long friends." Ile (Mr. Praed) possessed confide nce in the present government, and he would advice memb ers , if th ey cou ld no t place confidence, at least to repose hope in it. Th e l earne d gentleman in conclusion said, as a minister the right hon. - baronet, would not, he was con. vinced, be found to yield to popular clamour, or disregard pub lic opiuion. The right hon. baronet had never lowered the royal dignity by placing the Crown iu personal collision with one individual, however dangerous he might be; nor would he endanger his administration by going to that individual either to deprecate his hostility, or to flatter.him for his support. (Cheers.) Mr. SHEir. did not think it fair in the learned gentleman who had just sat down to quote particular expressions used in argu ment in favour o f an enactment to a b r id ge th e d ura ti on o f par liaments in justification of what he considered as a stretch of prerogative. The hun. and learned gentleman concluded by declaring his intention to vote for the amendment. Mr. Ls:citrus:as. CH ARLTON, who supported the address, in the course of his speech alluded to the Kurd "reform." If (said Colonel C.) reform meant a general correction of abuses. (hear, hear,) be was a thorough reformer; but if at one time it meant triennial parliaments, at another time vote by ballot, at another time anything else that popular caprice might call fur, be was not a reformer. Mr. H. GRATTAN made a furious attack upon the orangemen of Iceland. CoLoNEL PERCEVAT, defended the Orange Societies of Ire land; he denied that they were a secret association; he world assert that there was no man in that house who knew the prin ciples of the Orangemen but who must be aware that their fun damental principles were not to injure, not to prejudice, not to insult any of their fellow subjects on the subject of religion, but, on the contrary, to cons►der it their bounden duty to stretch forth the liana of good feeling and brotherly love to all mankind. Lord JOHN RUSSELL then entered into a detail of some of the circumstances in which Earl Grey's administration was placed, which have, been repeatedly stated and reported. When Lord Althorpwas removed to the upper house by the death of Earl Spencer, Lord Melbourne declared that he could carry on the government on the same principles on which his govern ment had been formed, if he had his Majesty's permission to fill up the vacancies that were produced, Why that permission was not given and the government was dissolved, was what he thought the Duke of Wellingtoia and Sires Peet were responsi. THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. ble for. He denied that he had ever contemplated the removal of the protestant ministers from the churches of Ireland, or that he had ever had any differences with his late colleagues on that subject. He had always cordially agee t ed with Lord Lans downe and 'Mr. Spring Rice oueueeaertes of general policy. Tele. letter of Lord Kenyon to the King, which had been largely distributed, he would read extracts .from, were it not " such . utter arid disgusting nonsense.", (A loud laugh.) He (Lord John) Worild 'ask, admitting the prerogative of the King to dismiss his ministers alit dissolve parliament, whether there ever was an example of the exercise of that prerogative for Which so little reason lied been shown as that which had lately presenied itself?- Was the internal state of the country disturbed? Or had any other extraordinary circumstance oc curred to render it necessary to resort to sucri measures? Why, the King's speece falsifies the whole of such pretences—oue half of it being filled with testimonies to the excellence and success of the uneasuree of the late government (hear,lear,) the' prosperity of manufactures, the general good order and tranquillity of society when they left oflice; and the other half containing recommendations of measures which were parcel of those which that very ministry were prepared , to nigh more extensively, to carry into effect. (Hear, hear, hear.) It was said that it was quite usual for a new . minister to dissolve parliament; but ne (Lord John) beiieved there had scarcely ever been an instance in which it had been done before a due trial of the existing house had been made. He did not mean to say . that the right hon. ge,ntlemitn was not in a very difficult situation ; he was ready to admit. that the noble duke having taken the first and most unconsltutional step of vesting in his own person all the great offices of the state, the right hou. bart. having had no concern in that matter, must .have tound himse.f personally in a most unpdeasant predicament, and he (Lord John Russell) could well imagine the obloquy that would have been attached to him if he had declined the office marked out for him. In fact, it was a • case in v. hich the noble duke seemed to have proceeded by way of impressment. (a laugh,) and he would recommend the hon. member who proposed doing away with that evil to take into his most' serious consideration the propriety of making some special provision, that no person should use the King's warrant as authority fu send a press-gang into the pope's dominions in order to impress a prime minister into office, and that travellers be allowed to pursue their journey wherever they pleased. (Laughter.) Without that protection the right hon. gentleman could scarcely avoid, in taking office, incurring a very heavy responsibility; but why not have ceded the late parliament together, and stated to them its measures and intentions? If that parliament, approving his projects• supported him, good and well; if they opposed him factiously, against the opinion of the country, he mighehave safely dis solved it ; but if he felt convinced that the sense of the country went with that House of CO:Amens, they should have been spared the disturbances that had since taken place, and the' difficulties in which they were now involved. (Hear ' hear.) If he (Lord John) were asked to place confidence in the adult- • nistration of Sir R. Peel on the corporatioriereform question he enlist refuse it, because corporations were the fortresses of their 'power to which they had so long clung. He had only one other observation to make in reference to what had fallen from the right hon. baronet, that, under the present administration, measures proposed in that house were likely to be carried with out difficulty in the other house of parliament. (Hear, hear.) Now, there arose front this a very natural question—are the measures to be similar, or are they to be different? Ii simi lar, were they then to be told that the House of Lords Would not agree to reform measures unless they saw in office a ministry of their own selection? (Loud cheers and " Hear.") But if the measures were to be different, if they were to be less effective measures of reform, were they then to be told that they must yield to the House of Lords with respect to the measures, and admit that what they considered necessary could not be proposed in that house? (Hear.) He had always been against attacks on the House of Lords; his own opinion being, that if mea sures which had the cordial concurrence of the commons were sent up to that house, they might be rejected once, possibly twice, but that the house of lords would yield to what was the clearly expressed and temperate sense of the people of this country. In thinking thus, he paid a tribute to the wisdom and patriotism of their lordships. Ile wished them to hove their due place in the constitution ; but he count never allow that power over the House of Commons which belonged to them in directly before the reform bill should be restored to them in the way it was now attempted to he done. (Hear, hear.) Mr. GOGI.B . URN would not follow the noble lord through all the extraneous topics introduced into his speech. He was told that he considered himself contaminated by dissenters, but he begged leave-to deny the charge in the strongest manner. Ile had always expressed himself with the greatest regard and good wishes towards the dissenters , nor bad' he ever been hostile to their enjoyment of any civil privileges which could be con ferred on them without the destruction of the national establish merits of the country. The whole of his argument aeainst their admission to the universities was founded on this, that the civil privileges from which they were excluded might be be stowed on them by othe,r means without violating' the . principles on which the universities were founded, and inflicting serious injury, not only on the established church, but also on the religious feelings of the country in general. (Hear, hear.) Speaking of the divisions of the late cabinet Mr. 0. said, It was as indisputable as any condition of facts could render it; it was absolutely certain that in any discussion which could arise in parliament the noble lords composing that cabinet must either abandon their principles or each other. Then the noble lord • opposite alleged that he must have an amend ment to the address, because he required a reform of the Church of England. Why, was there not a most distinct and specific assurance in the speech from the throne that measures of re form in the church would be instituted and well and properly conducted? The third point against which the accusations of the noble lord were directed was the allusion in the royal speech to the subject of municipal corporations. It was bear ing rather hard _upon the present ministers of the Crown for a member of the late government to condemn them for not being' more explicit, for not going further into detail on the subject of a commission issued by their predecessors them selveS, and of which the report had not yet been made. When the noble lord opposite had to oppose the government, he thought it absolutely necessary that immediate and detailed `communications should be made to the House of Commons, without waiting for the report of the cotninissioners ; but when in office he pursued . precisely that course Which he cen sured in the present advisers of the Crown. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord deeply censured them for not havit4 cat. 11.4 t - gether the parliament teLieh they found in existence at the time of their accession to office. If they were to judge of what might be the conduct of the noble lord in circumstances similar to those in which the preseut government stood, it might perhaps be easy to frame a retort. He admitted the difficulty of form ing any opinion of what might take place from what had; he knew how haze' dons it was to predicate anything respecting the noble lord, but judging from the circumstance of the choice of a Speaker being made aground fur displaciug a govern ment, he professed himself unable-to comprehenci upon what rational grounds it could be contended that the present ad visers of the Crown ought to have met the late parliament. If the appointment of Speaker were onpesed in a new par liament, what might have been done in an old House of Com mons, before the recently appointed ministers of the Crown could have taken their seats ? (Hear,- hear, hear, and cheers.) For those who had replaced the late ministers he could under take to say that they were as anxious to promote and as unwilling to retard improvemeut as any of their predeccesors, and that lie fully concurred in the, coucluiling opinion of the noble 'end— namely, that ;hey lay under the weightiest obligation to dis charge their duty to the public without pusillanimity on the one hand or inconsiderate rashness on the other. (Hear, hear.) Mr. D. W. HARVEY was of opinion that the feeling of the country was with those who had been the predecessors, and were destined soon to be the successors of the present. ministers. Mr. BARING combatted the opinion that the metropolitan members were the representatives of a vast sum of wealth, in telligence. sod respectability. Undoubtedly, according to the constitution of the country, they were so; but it was, in fact, a mere fiction. Unfortunately, never was there a case in which numbers and property were more at variance than in the metro politan boroughs. (cheers, and "No, no.") He was not one of those fond of distinguishing the various classes of society by their extent of property or degree of intelligence and informa tion ; it was only when particular pretensions were put forward, as in the present instance, that he ventured to state his opinion. (hear, hear,) and that opinion was, that nine-tenths of the wea th and intelligence of the metropolitan boroughs was unre presented in that house. (" Hear, hear," and " No, no.") On the general question which was involved in the address from the throne he would not trouble them with many remarks. The case had been so fully and ably stated by his right honour able friend, that it would he a mere waste of the time and attention of the house if he were now to dwell upon it. (I - dear.) As to the possessiou of office, he would say, for his own part, that so sensible was he of the very slight pretensions which he had' to serve in the office which he had the honour to hold, that though he highly estimated the honour of being associated With men of such high honour and character, he should not feel at all annoyed at being relieved from the labours of official duty; and he could assure lion. gentlemen opposite that no oue amongst them could be more glad to get into his place than lie should be to give it up, provided he were well assured that its duties would he discharged in concert with those of the other departments of the pubs service on principles well calculated to secure the public welfare. Being in office, however, he felt, in common with his colleagues, that in justice they ought to be allowed a lair time for the exposition of those measures which they had announced their iutention to introduce. He did hope, therefore, that hon. gentlemen, before they voted in opposition to the present government, would look well around them, and see whether, under all the circumstances in 'which they were placed, there was any other party which afforded a chance of making an efficient and permanent governmeut. He did hope that the votes of hon. members would be founded on principle, and not such as wou ps l ata s il h el o sn w i,,,li i ii n oo e rw r i e thy ly il. a hag f t a ha c ei :i isi o ot u u s tsh d ee is lg p vao o s. - sition. might.betrue, that when several parties Were joined, t v h e e n r l e rn m e might but be looking k m i majority. r a i t t 3' t ' he a divided, and looking at one of these as aiming to supply the place of the present ministers, he would say that it would nut afford a majority, but, on the contrary, would be a minority, and a small minority too, of the House of Commons. Could a making oa nl g e a permanent belonged. Under these ad dress. party so circumstanced, he would again ask, expect t o f orm a government with ady, hope of its being.permanent? Il e f e lt support l n the is t c of o r s r b original ne convinced that it could not o party ~ and he was equally co nv i nce d t h at i ntghcoai governmeut ec ruuins houseetan circumstances c eass offered l iethat should so t ow fair a i h prospectn Loud cries of " Adjourn," in the midst of which Mr. IlumE moved that the debate be further adjourned to Thursday. • 'Fie house then adjourned at a quarter to ono o'clock. HOUSE OF LORDS.—THuRsDAy. The Earl of Shaftesbury sat for the Lord Chancellor lit three o'ciock, when the Duke of Northumberland and other peers took the oaths and subscribed the plrlianientary roll, after which the house atjourned during pleasure.' The Lout) CHANCRLI.OI2 took Ms seat on tin . woolsack at five o'clock, and announced to the house that the lords with white staves had waited upon his Majesty with the address of that house, to which his majesty had been pleased to return' the, following most gracious answer :—" My lords, I thank you for your loyal and dutiful addres ,, , and I receive with great satis faction the assurance that you will afford me your cordial co operation in all such measures as will tend to promote th 9 hap piness and concord of my subjects." The Duke of RICHMOND then presented a number of petitions complaining of local taxation. He also gave notice that to morrow he would present a petition un the abolition o'f un necessary oath. The liar' of RADNOFt gave notice of a motion relative to the oaths taken previously to the admission of graduates to the uni versities. Lord B (tOUGH Au moved for a return all the commissions that passed the great seal in the years 1828-9-30. After some observations troth the Lord CtiAtscELLoa, the Marquis of LA N SDOWNE. Lord PLUNKETT, the-Duke of WEL LINGTON, and 1,011:t 131: Ol*G 11A NI, the i eturn was ordered. CHURCH PLURALITIES AND NON-RESIDEr.cE ON CLLEGY • BILLS. After some desultory conversation on these bills, which were brought in by . Lord Brougham, they Were read a first time and .ordered to be printed. '1 he Duke or CCFtnEn LAND wished to ask the noble and learn ed lord if the church p!uralities and clergy non-residence bills were the same as those laid before the house towards the close of the last session ? Lord Buo LGHAM assured the illustrious duke that they were; but, as on that occasion he expressed . his. willingness to con •sult the bishops of the established church on any exceptionable portion that might be found in those bills, he was also willing to go as far in the present instabOi. - Lord I:cLaNedilounit said that a portion of the proposed neasure to du away with non-residence would go to deprive. his .najesty of the prerOgatiVe of mercy. Anil if,' for instance, a clergyman was absent or called away- to attend the distant death-bed of his parent, he would come under the penalties fully as much as if he were absent from his duties for pleasure or amusement. After a few. words from Lord Brougham,' who said that this particular clause should also .he pa►d attention to, and undergo revision, if necessary, their lordships adjourned. .HOUSE .OF COMIOSS.—TituiisDAY: The Speaker took the chair at a quarter t,) four o'clock. Sir F. Burdett, viii;) had been in waiting tor nearly an hour, took the oaths - and his seat. Mr. EWART gave notice of a motion respecting the royal acadeiny, and its influence upon the fine arts. Mr. Georg gave notice that on the 18th March he would move for leave to bring in a bill to amend the highway acts, and for a return of the number of persons employed in the col:. lection of the malt duty. Sir IL FERGUSON gave notice of a motion for a bill to dis franchise the borough of Stafford. The SPEAKER informed the h:.ise that he had received a petition against the return for the county of Stafford. Ordered to be taken into consideration on the 4th March. Mr. WA no uirroN presented a petition against the return for the city of Worcester. Some petitions were presented, and other notices were also given. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Mr. Ewaltt brought forward his motion relative to the sit tings of the house, the substance of which was, that no public business of importance should be introduced after 11 o'clock at night." ajor BRAUCLIRK seconded the motion. . . Sir K. PEEL could scarcely believe that Mr. Bwart was in earnest. It' such a change were introduced it would limit the hours of business to six. If the house commenced business at ten in the morning, it might be possible to make sumo such regulation.. But before he introduced such a change, it would be necessary to review ad the circumstances and condition'of public business, and also the private arrangements or members of parlianient. The deimte was subsequently adjourned to Fri.. day, the llth March. THE ADDRESS. Mr. MuLLINs moved the order of the day for the resumption of this debate. The hull member, in the name of his consti tuents, rose to express his dissatisfaction with, .and disapprolta tiozi of the conduct of the right hon. baronet and his colleagues since their acceptance of office. He (Mr. Mullins) was unable to discover any one good or solid reason for the dissolution of the late parliament, or of Lord Melbourne's administration. Mr. FINCH contended that there was ample ground for the dismissal of the administration, and the dissolution of podia- Ment. The house.had been told that one of die principles which formed the basis of the Melbourne administration was a new distribution of the revenues of the Irish church:, and that on this subject Lord Julia Russell, Mr. Rice, Lords Lansdowne and Brougham agreed iu opinion. This of itself was ample 'grounds for their dismissal. What was meant by new distri bution or appropriation? If he understood it correctly it meant this—that if, after providing for the necessary wants of the. Irish church—if after providing for the education 'of its mem bers, there should remain 'any disposable surplus, such surplus should be given to the general purposes of education of, other inhabitants, catholic as well as protestant. (" Hear, hear," from the Irish members.) Now, 'every , man was well aware that the Roman catholic church only admitted of a system of education conformable to its principles: therefore, if a portion of the revenues of the protestant church were perverted to a sys tem of education subject to the approval of the Irriesthood, it would in fact, be a diversion to Roman catholic purposes. These was said to be public purposes (fear, hear); but it was the duty of a government to act, consistently with the dignity of the sovereign and the constitution of the country. Now, the King were sworn to retain inviolate the rights and privileges of the church (the privileges of its property of course included), and if any administration .was prepared' to counsel the King to in fringe those rights, or to trench upon those privileges, he (Mr. Finch) was prepared to contend it would be in violation of the coronation oath. (Cheers from the ministerial side of the house.") He condemned such advice in the face of the house and of the country, as at variance with national faith, the treaty of union, and the terms of the coronation oath. He should on all these grounds most strenu ous ly o pp ose th e a me nd m e n t w hi c h . h a d been moved. Mr. G. BERKELEY supported the amendment. Sir liUGEtt GIMSLEY said that be shouid not dischaige Iris duty to the electors of the southern division of the county of Derby, whom he h a d th e h onour t o represent, if -h e did n e t ix press his dissatisfaction at the scanty and insignificant mention which had been made in the addreSs on the subject Of the dis tresses of the agricultural class—a class more - patient under their sufferings than any other in the whole community. (Hear.) He knew that they would be much disappointed atid•greatly discontented with the omission, and he much feared that if his Majesty's g overnment should haite recourse to an appeal to them again, it might be the means of preventing them affording to the government that support which on the late elections they had so nobly given. Approving, •as he did, of the principles upon which, as he understood, redress was to be afforded, he - regretted to.state that he much feared it would be insufficient fur the relief which was indispensable. For the rest, concur.. ring as he did cordially in every topic upon which the address touched, he should vote for it in order to counteract that . which he regretted to designate a factious' opposition (hear. hear), raised for the purpose of promoting the selfish aggrandisenient of others, (Cheers.) Mr. GILLON would ask those who wished to raise the cry of "factious opposition," whether anything savoured so much of faction as the dismissal of the late parliament. He would refer to a paragraph iu the speech from the throne, in which his Ma jesty called the earnest attention of parliament to the condition of the church of Scotland, and to the means by which it might be enabled to increase the opportunities of religious worship for the poorer classes of society in that part of the united kingdom, He took upon himself to say, that unpopular A. the t0.. 7 party were netoro in. g00n...4 tuts declaration would make them in finitely more so. (" Hear, hear" from the opposition.) The passage to which he had referred appeared to him to indicate an intention on the part. of ministers, under the pretext of afford ing spiritual instruction to the poor, to attempt to strengthen the dominant sect in Scotland, and treat as nothiug the claims of the dissenters. • Mr. C. Beuce would not have risen but for the remarks of Mr. Gilion, who had asserted that a great majority of the inhas bitants of Scotland were averse to the change lately made iu the councils of his Majesty. The hon. member was in some degree justified in his observations by the returns from Scot land (" Hear." from the opposition); but still he begged to assure the house that in Scotland there existed a great diver sity of opinion on the subject. In the , towns, whilst the num bers were against the change, the representatives of property were favourable to it. (Hear, hear.) He appealed to the great constituency of Ediuburgh, to that of Glasgow, and other places, where it was well known that a great majority of the existing property recognised and was satisfied with' the late change. (" Hear, hear," and "No" from the opposition.) If this were Mlle case in towns, what was the case as regarded the counties of Scotland ? (" Hear, hear," from both sides of the house.) Look at those counties which had returned niambers favourable to the late government, and see by what narrow majorities that. had been effected, as in the case of Herldingtonshire and . tbe county of Perth. (Loud cheering from the opposition.) It could not be asserted that in those counties very large numbers of the constituency did not express themselves favourable to' the present ministry. In Invernessshire the sitting member had also been returned by a narrow majority, and it was well known to his hon. friend that there were walking about the streets, impulled, a greater number of persons favourable to a con servative government than could have turned the election, if they hail not been deterred from coming forward by peculiar circuin stances. The paragraph of the royal speech relative to religious instruction of the people in Scotland, which had been objected to by the hon. member fur Falkirk, exhibited a regard for the best interests of his fellow-countrymen, which he (Mr. Bruce) was well convinced would he hailed and responded to by the people of Scotland as exhibiting a regard for the best interests of the country. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Vox MAULE replied and supported the amendment. Mr. Macsuae, as a new member, had listened attentively to the arguments adduced on both sides of the house, but had been unable to extract from the speeches of the honourable gentle men opposite any one reason for supporting the amend ment of the noble lord. The amendment appeared to pledge the house to the opinion, that in consequence . of the dissolution of parliament the progress of reform had been interrupted. It certainly appeared to inconsistent to represent the people as warmly attached to reform principles, and at the same time to say that the progress of reforms could run' the slightest risk ofinferruption from an appeal to the country. If lion. mem bers opposite• were anxious to have measures which, in their opinion, would advance the cause of reform, assuredly they (ight not to complain of the dissolution. If they desired to cir emulate more widely the doctrines which they professed, where could they find a better opportunity of doing so than in address ing their constituents from the hustings? (Hear, hear.) He could not concur iii the address upon this point, because he had not the least apprehension that there was likely to be the slieht est interruption to the progress of sound constitutional reform, which lie presumed to be the doctrine entertainer' on his side of • the house. (Ilear, hear.) The Ilan. gentleman who had just sat down had asked by what mystery it was that the present ministers 11,und themselves in possession of the places which they occupied. His answer w as by no mystery at a ll, b u t by the simplest zoe rse o f things tharcould be brought within the Conception of the humblest individual. (Hear.) When Lord Melbourne placed himself at the head of the late ministry, he declared, in his place in the House of'Lords, that he considered the presence of Lord Althorp in the House of Commons, as leader, so essential to the existence of the government, that he would not have taken office had not his lordship consented to continue in that situation. (Hear.) Again, when Earl Grey resigned office, he declared he could no longer carry on the government of the country after having lost the assistance of Lord Althorp, whom he called emphatically his "right hand." (Hear.) If Lord Althorp was considered fiy . Earl Grey as his right hand when that nobleman's administration was in its in tegrity—when it had not suffered the loss of the secession of the noble lord, the member for North Lancashire, and other indi vidualv—he might reasonably be considered the right hand of the cabinet which succeeded. If this were the case—if, as his lordship said, lie would not have taken office had not Lord Althorp consented to continue leader of the House of Com,• mona—was it sui prisin that wh en th a t n o bl e l or d was tran s lated to the other house th e king should be unwilling to embark the fortunes of the kingdom in the is reek of the late administration ? He had listened with satisfaction to the declaration of princi ples made by the right hon. baronet at the head of the govern ment, and it he acted upon those principles he should receive his 'suppoit. One of . our best constitutional writers had ex pi essed an opinion that the utility and dignity of the House of Commons would be best preserved by preserving a happy me dium which w ou ld prevent i t on the one han d from becoming an aristocratical sen a t e, an d on t h e ot h er d egenerat i ng i nto a de mocratic assembly. That happy medium he trusted the right hen. baronet would ibe able to preserve for the present house. (Hear. hear.) Lord DUDLEY STUART regretted the dissolution of the Mel bourne administration, and had no wish to join in a factions opposition to the present government. The noble lord had upon the whole no particular objection to the address except upon the subjects it left untouched. lie disapproved of that part of the amendment which expressed a censure upon the dissolution of parliament. Ile believed that was a very unusual proceed ing. He did n o t b e li eve t h at the progress o f re f orm h a d b een endangered by th e di sso l ut i on. I n conc l us i on, he would vot e for the amendment, hut lie was sorry that it bad not been framed in a way which would have aowed him to do so with inure satis faction. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Sergeant Goureuele thought the amendment which had beets moved was a false and pretended amendment. (Cries of '• "No," and cheers.) He repeated that it was a false and pre. tended amendment. (Renewed cries of " and ?beers.) Ii was framed with the view of obtaining from the unwary a few votes—(laughter)—it was framed for the purpose of inducing some hon. members to vote for the einendnieut, with . the idea that they were only adding to the address something like milk and water, as the noble mover of the amendment hail styled it —but which he (Mr. Sergeant Goulburn) called gall, bitterness, and - party faction. (Cheers.) The real question he believed in his conscience was whether the present ministers should be I ejected from office. This question was indeed conceded by the supporters of 'the amendment, and uaturallv raised another— ought the House of CoMmons to force the King to take back against his will the Melbourne cabinet? (Cheers.) He (Mr. G.) believed it amounted to an interference with what he had always understood to be the undoubted prerogative of the King, —(cheers)—and he-could not but express his condemnation of the disingenuous endeavour which was made to conceal under false professions the real object intended. (Hear, hear.) The gentlemen - opposite" professed to hive greai respect for the pre rogatives of the King. They admitted , that the King was en titled to a free choice in respect to his ministers, but what sort • of choice, let him ask ? (Cheers from the opposition.) The King. forsooth, was free to choose certain individuals, whom they (the gentlemen of the opposition) prescribed, but he was to be uuder the aobligation of rejecting every other individual, whatever his capability for office might be, howsoever great his talent or integrity. (Cheers and laughter.) This was the sort of freedom which' the g'eritleinen on the other side of the house Would - concede to his Majesty. (Cheers.) If hon. members on the oppbsite side disliked the present cabinet what would .they put in its place. , Would they take the seals from Lord Lyndhurst and restore them to his predecessor in office? And, would airy one for a moment make a comparison between those persons? Would they wish to restore the noble rejected mem ber forllampshire to the Foreign-office? On these questions he was'repared to go with the noble lord and the opposition to the country. What would be the consequence if the present cabinet ministers were ejected front office ? Could any ad ministration be foruied which would give satisfaction to the house and the country? (Hear, hear.) tie was very well aware that him. gentlemen on, the other side, who farmed tho weakest of the three parties in that house, both in point of num bers arid talent, had formed the notion of being able to govern by the alternate assistance of the other two. That party had been churn of all that once gave it credit in the eyes of the country ; for he willingly admitted that Lord Grey had to a _great degree-possessed the cou fidence of the people. The couns try reposed great confidence in the talent, integrity, and high character of Lord Stanley and Sir James Graham. (Hear, hear.) But they had seceded from the Melbourne cabinet, and they would not join it should it be restored to-morrow. The intention of the weakest party in that house was to govern by the assistance of the other two parties. When they wished to destroy they would have plenty to help them; they might then be sure of assistance of the hon. and learned member for Dublin, the bon. and learned member for Southwark, and the hon. member for Middlesex, awl their aid would be required much oftener, he was afraid, than that of the conservatives. (Hear, hear.) But when they wanted tupreserve and uphold,. then-would they appeal to the high awl' manly feeling of the right hon. baronet, the member for Tamworth. They would ask him to come to their succour, and to lend them the aid of his superior talents. (Hear, hear.) They would address the right hon. baronet in the following terms :—" We know that you will do exactly the opposite to that which we should in the same cir cumstances. You will not withhold your support . fur the pur pose of embarrassing the government. We know what your opinions are. You have never disguised them, and you would scorn to alter them; and we therefore claim your aid when we wish to preserve." Thus would the weakest party in the house endeavour to carry on the government. (Hear, hear.) Now he thOught that there was something excessively mean in such conduct. (Laughter.) He was s orry to be obliged ,to use a plain phrase; but ho thought that nothing could be more con. temptible than an attempt on the part of the weakest body in the house, both in numbers and talent, to govern by relying at one time on the'aid of the right hon. baronet (the member for Tami worth) and his party, and on other occasions by claiming the support of those whose undisguised object was the destruction of the institutions of the country. The learned serjeautthus con cluded:—lt' was of some impatience in his mind that the indi viduals who would he affected by reforms should be convinced that the persons who proposed these reforms did it with a friendly though firm purpose; that they did not, in fact, intend to destroy wkat, they professed to reform. (Hear, hear.) He was himself a zealous and devoted member of the Church.of England, and he Are one should have no objection to a reform brought about by those in whom he could confide, whom he knew to be at once hOnest and decided reformers of real abuses, resolved whilst they refocused' not - to destroy awl subvert. (Cheers.) This was the feeling which he was convinced prevailed in the country both with. espect to church reform and corporation reform. He would conclude by directiug the attention of the hon. and learned member for Dublin, and other reformers in the opposition, to a passage in, M.r. Soathey's work on the Progress and Prospects of Society, in Whiciiit was stated, that if ever the constitution were destroyed, it wouldbe by a combination of the forces of popery, dissent; and infidelity. The hon. and l&rued,rntleman then . resumed his, seat amidst much cheering. Mr. GISI3 . I)RNE spoke at somelength ru support of the amend "meats Lord Howler( thought Sir Robert Peel hail shown himself on various occasions fatally ignorant of the art ofs--that of when to give way. He. (Lord willingly confessed that he dif fered less with the right honourable baronet than with many of those in whose comnany it was now his (Lord Howick's) for tune to be ,placed. Bat the character of one member of an ad ministration was not to be taken as that of the whole, and he found that by far the greater part of the members of the govern ment were then of extreme opinions. Lord H.. concluded by declaring his intention to vote for the amendment. Mr. G. PRICE spoke in favour of the address. He said, the whi p s as a body were certainly the weakest party in the state; and if a government were attempted to be formed from the remnant of the Melbourne administration, they would! be obliged undoubtedly to lean on others for support. from whom they dif fered in opinion, and whose political fierceness would rage to such an extent that their government could not possibly exist for a fortnight—those who joined them most be their masters, and harsh and unscrupulous task-masters they would find them to be. (Hear.) Mr. I'. S. DUNCOMRE replied to the observationi made on the metropolitan borough constituencies by the right hon, the president of the board of trade, (Mr. A. Baring) and contended that the wealth and intelligence of the metropolis was fairly represented. ag Mr. BARING 4! . 1111* ed. Sir JAMES Gil.: awl had, like his noble friend Allow' 4,.,.,+.in'tnem, then in many of the members of the administration. Entertaining, then, the. opinions winch on that and un other occasions he bad frankly avowed, there would obviously be great inconsistency in his voting for the amendment of the noble lord. Considering the effect of his vote—considering the prObable consequences of the present government being a second tinie in one week left in a minority, he should long hesitate before he gave his sup - port to the amend : went of the noble lord. If he could agree that the overthrow of the administration would not be the consequence of adopting the amendment, he might be disposed in some respects to qualify his support of the address. It was his misfortune not to have been able to place confidence in the administration of Lord Melbourne; the present government, •howevet, had Made large and ample promises of liberal measures, and he would maintain that they possessed greater facilities and more extended means of carrying such measures into full effect than any ministry the • formation of which he could . coatemplate. The declarations which he•made in relation to the support or the opposition to any government amounted to this, that he had pledged himself that he would vote against any motion having a factious tendency. It was the duty of the administration to produce their measures, but was it not in fairness the duty of the house to abstain from str,king without hearing them, and would it not be still More unjust to strike fur the purpose of preventing their being heard ? (fear, hear.) That was the position with which he set out, and to that he was prepared to adhere. He had that night conic down to the house ata great personal inconvenience, and suffering nuke much pain, to explain the grounds upon which he was 'prepared to oppose the amendment; it still re mained for him to notice the point to which be wished more particularly to refer—he wished to give the most direct contra diction possible to a rumour which had been recently set afloat. The propagatiOn of such rumours might form part of the new tactics of opposition (loud and continued Theering)—such might be the tactics of an opposition which he could no otherwise describe than as a Babel opposition, in which all languages were spoken, in which the tongues of the young and old were heard, in which the radical and the repealer both raised their voices. If other motives were wanting, the mere existence of such coalitions would induce him to declare that he was not prepared to unite with such opponents of such an administra tion. (Hear, hear.) But to return to the rumours of which he had been speaking. Those seeds, when once sown, often rose and spread to a bitmidable extent. They might be cast by the way side, but they nevertheless occasionally germinated and even produet:dfeuit ; lie was, therefore, anxious in the most posi tive manner to deny that, directly or indirectly, he, or any gen tleman included within that section of the house, had received any communication from his majesty's government, but none had been tendered by him, or any of those with whom he was in communication. (Hear, hear.) If any further explanation were thought necessary, he was then prepared to offer it. It had been sneeringly said, that some members would act con scientiously: Was it thought, when the fate of the country was suspended in a balance, that men would consider mere party attachments as paramount to every thing? Might not, indepen dent.support Le given without unlimited confidence? (Loud cLeering.) Mr. O'CONNELL was compelled by a sense of duty to his " Un fot-imitate country'2 to trespass on the attention o f th e ho use . The learned gentleman's speech in support of the amendment embraced a great variety of subjects. • Mr. SHAW (Dublin Vniverbitv) iu a short reply, said that he did not thick that the learned - member (Mr. O'Connell) had spoken with his usual power, or made his usual impression on the house. Mr. O'llw TER rose amidst great and continued interruption, to which, after uttering a few sentences, he gave way. ' The house then divided, when the numbers appeared— For the amendment 309 For the original address 3:12 Majority against ministers The report was ordered to be received this day. The announcement-of the result of the division was received with loud and long-continued cheers from the opposition side of the house. _ _ Before our re-admission'into the gallery we understand a con versation took place to the following effect : Lord J. RUSSELL inquired whether it was the intentien of the right hon. baronet the Chancellor. of the Exchequer to move s on bringing up of the report this day, that the words of the. amendment should be expunged from the address. Sir R. PEEL was understood to decline, for the present, to answer the question. Lord J. RUSSELL said/that he considered the answer of the right hon. baronet as equivalent to an intention 00 his part to divide upon that question, and he (Lord John Russell) should advise all those who had this night voted in favour of the amend ment to be in their place to-day. (Cheers from the opposition.) Sir H. PEEL, said,: he would give the saute excellent advice to those hon. members who had supported tile original address, and beg them to he at their posts, in order that they might place themselves to-morrow in the same position as that which the majority of to-night itow occupied. (Loud cheers.) • The house then (at a quarter -past two o'clock) adjourned. HOUSE OF LORDS; FRIDAY. The house met at three o'clock, when a few peen . ; took the oaths. At five o'clock the Lord Chancellor took his seat on the woolsack_ Mr. I'lowden appeared at the bar, and presented to their lordships certain papers from the India board: The Dukd of AV ELLINGTON laid on the table returns of the inapiiris and exports of th 4 United Kingdom for the years 1834 and 1835. ABOLITION OP OATHS BILL. The Duke of RICHMOND rose to mOve, in pursuance of a no tice ho had, given, the first reading , of a bill for the abolition of certain oaths taken in various departments of the state. if their lordships should agree to the first reading of the hill it was his intention to move that it be referred to a committee up stairs. The bill was read a first time, and referred to a COMITIIILee. COLONIAL SLAVERY. The Earl of Mt LGI;AVtr: rose toasi --- soine questions of the noble secretary lbr the .colonies (Lord Aberdeen) connected with the subject of colouial slavery. lle observed by the Ja maica papers that in :he last session of the local legislature a joint representati o n was 'made to the noble marquis, the present governor of the island, from the council and the legislative body as to the necessity of swearing iu a number of heal special con tables, but the noble ,oiarquts refused the application, and be „ fl_A It C H S:3si did not blame the noble marquis, who considered that he bat°' no - alternative under the powers he possesSed. This, howeve r ' was certainly at variance with the spirit of the act. He knr y many most respectable gentlemen - in the island, to whore bz would be sorry to impute any disposition inconsistent with the strictest sense of justice and humanity; but it might test be ea s i f • to judge of the effect o f a rbitrary power pla ce d in the hands 0t a master. When the noble lord, the pr e sent member for Lae . cashire (Lord Stanley,) was at the head of the colonial depart meat he (Earl Mulgrave) received instructions from him to ap point gentlemen to the local magistracy who were unconnect ed with slave property, but t o se l ec t th em opt of each parish. N o , ° this was striking at the very root of the whole g ood intended to be produced by the appointments, because there might be sa , dozen fit men unconn ec t e d with s l ave property in one pari and not one fit pers on i n ano th er p ar i s h. It. was a m atter 0 . the most vital imp or t ance t o the succesa.of the measure that tbd local magistrates having controul antler the act should not Dd. slave proprietor s , an d b e h ope d t o h ear f rom t he no bl e ea rl tb,o, he did not sancti o n suc h powers. U pon t hi s important point DI hail had communications from all classes, from the clergy, an from slave proprietors themselves—all concurring that this WO_ essential to the suc cess o f th e measure . Th ere was a nother point upon which he should also be glad to have the assuranc e , of the noble earl, an d h e b egge d t h e no bl e ear l to b e li eve that in anything he said he was n u t in th e least degree actuated bt, i party spirit, for he was s u re it ' wa s th e Obje c t- and wish of K i t that this most interesting and' important question should be brought to a successful issue. It was with the greatest satisfac, tion that he heard in his Majesty'S speech an expression of frog and confidence that the measure Would end in final success. w some of the islands, particularly in Jamaica, there had been considerable religious dissension, he would not say amongst all sects, but there did exist great jealousy and much prejudice against the missionaries and sectarians not belonging to tbe Church of England, and no t on ly aga i ns t th ose , b u t even a gainst clergymen of the Church of Enilaud who were termed evange lical, He had received a letter from a beneficed clergyman' whose name it would not be judicious to meution, stating tha t be had been ordered to attend before a committee of the legis" lature to be examined ; but when'it was learned that his an swers were not likely to answer the purpose for which he was to be questioned, and that they went to a denial rather than the establishing of any ground for imputation, he was told that be need not attend. Ile was the more anxious to have an expres sion of the noble earl's sentiments, because he observed in some, of the last colonial n ews p a p ers muc h sa ti s f act i on ex p res sed at the change of government in this country, and that the late ad miuistration, " the protectors of canting hypocrites," as tb"y . were called, were out of power, and " our friends," as the re"' sent government were termed, Come into office. The Earl of ABERDEEN was as anxious as the noble earl t 6 see the law as it now stood carried into effect. The first vote be ever gave in parliament was in favour of emancipation, and bY every means in his power he had assisted in paving the way to that consummation he so much wished for. After a cursory perusal of the correspondence of the noble mar iris the presen t governor of, Jamaica, which h e f oun d i n the office, he wrote in three or four days after his appointment to that noble marquis , recollecting that it was usual oft a change of government to make also changes in colonial governors, and that one of the noble marquis's immediate predecessors had been so recalled without the least ground to charge bins with any misconduct -- ; he wrote to the noble marquis, entreating him fur the sake of the cause that had been entrusted to his charge, to retain his government, and that he should have the full and hearty sup; port of the government in the execution of the - taw. He had not as yet had any answer from the noble marquis, but he was in daily expectation of receiving one, and although perhaps the noble marquis might consider his recal a matter of course cou-, sequent up on th e c h ange o f government, vet h e (t h e E ar l of Aberdeen) still entertained a hope that the government and the cause in which all felt so great an interest would have the benefit of the noble marquis's assistance, to which he attached no small importance. The first question of the noble earl ar plied to the execution of the law as between master and appren tice, and whether this was to be left with the magistrates seat out from this country, or to be partly entrusted to local inagis trates, the owners of slave property ? He had upon this point already written to t he noble marquis aroving of the answer he had given to th e representation that had been . made to hilt. And he did not suppose that any change was likely to take plac e the determination to which the noble usarquirhad come. At the same time he considered that the case was one of great hard' ship,. and one which was not at all contemplated at the passing af..4he act. There had been only thirty magistrates sent out in the first instance to Jamaica from this country. Now anyone who was at all acquainted with the island, and the interests tci be protecteslahere, even, indeed, with its-geography, must knovt that so small a nourber of magistrates could by no means be sufficient for the proper. execution, ofr Use la,w, Spa . experienc4 had proved - this to, be the ca se . His predieceasoe at the IV - on ialls , office very wiselyaddedoonsiderably, to the number and having! found this addition in.progress he himself added a few more, aid; he hoped the appointments were now sufficiently numerous 11l carry the law into effective execution, the entire number ot. magistrates now appointed being sixty-one. Those who knee the country would not consider this too many. With respect. to the other question of the noble earl, as far as he could collect, its import he could have no difficulty in answering it. - ITrifor'' tunately great animosity existed amongst the religious sects in Jamaica, and he would not go so far as the noble earl in saying that the zeal of some of them did not outrun their discretion , but still he could assure the noble earl that they should all,hora' the full protection of the law while in the exercise of their proper duties • and he admitted that their exertions and m o tives were generally highly laudable, particularly as connected with the act of emancipation, for if the religious education of the slaves be not attended to, and they were kept iu a state of ignorance to the expiration of their apprenticeship, instead of their eman cipation being a blessing it would be the greatest curse that could betel thetn. To those missionaries, therefore, against whom great prejudice existed, the government would of course be happy to give every assistance to pursue their laudable ob jects in safety and tranquillity. A conversation ensued in which the Duke of Wellington, the Earl of Ripon, Lord Brougham, Lord•,,Seaford, and the Earl of Aberdeen, took part. The conversation was ended by : Lord Mulgrave saying that the original number of magistrates in bis opinion had been insufficient, their salaries were inadequate; wn - eurrlnat - sixty wont,' be • sufficient number: THE TRISH CLERGY. The Earl of Cr.oireunny wished to put a question to his Ma jesty's government respecting the present condition of the pro testant clergy of Ireland. He wished to know whether it way the intention to press upon the clergy the demand for their pro portions of the sums advanced to them out of the parliamentaay grant of £1,000,000. The first instalment he believed would be' due this month, and the clergy in their distressed state were' necessarily anxious upqn the subject. The Duke of Wat.i.korrati wished to remind the noble earl that his right hon. friend (Sir R. Peel) bad given notice of a motion upon the subject, to be brought forward in the other house in a few days. The Earl of CLoNcuartv-said that if the demand were to be' made upon the clergy they would be totally unable to meet it. The house adjourned at half-past six. HOUSE OF COMMONS, FRIDAY, FE8.27. Mr. Alderman Wool) moved for leave to bring in a bill for the improvement of Smithfield Mailer. - Mr. H. &LIVER rave notice of a motion respecting the et pence of consular establishments. Mr. BARING presented certaiu statistical tables relative to the population, and the state of the committee and finances 0 1 the country, which were ordered to be printed. vaikuut.LENT IMPORTATION of , GRAIN. Mr. HANDLEY wished to ask whether it was the intention of government to propose any measure to prevent the fraudulent importation of fore►gn grain into the Isle of Man, and the chan nel islands, Guernsey and Jersey. Mr. BARING said - the subject adverted to by the hon. gentle man was almost the very first to which his attention was drawn upon entering office. The subject was under consideration, and he hoped shortly to be able to propose some measure upon it. In answer to a question from Mr. Hutt, Mr. I.3ARING said it was the intention of government to in troduce a ►measure early to prevent the fraud of shipping Baltic timber to Canada and reshipping it in Canada fur England . - Information was collecting on the subject. MUNICIP4I. ItEFURM. Mr. AINSWORTH said he rose for the purpose of putting s question to the right hon. baronet (the chancellor of the exche quer.) The right hon. baronet had announced his determina tion to carry forward the great principle of reform: Now, the question he was desirous to receive some answer to was this — was it the intention of the present government that the new" boroughs should be converted into corporations, with the right of electing their own officers, upon the principle of the franchise? The CH A NCF.I.LOR of the ExcusucEa was desirous to know, betbre answering a question of such importance, what sugges• tions might have been thrown out by the commissioners of municipal inquiry as" to the desirableness or forming th e n o/ - boroughs into corporations, and the most adv6able mode of carrying it into effect, if it should be thought desirable. THE ADDRESS. Sir E. KNATCHBULL appeared at the bar with the report o' the address. The question being put that the report be brought up, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, it probably is the most convenient course, as well as the most respectful towards the house, that I should take the earliest opportunity of putting gentlemen in possession of the course which I mean to pursue. (Hear, hear.) If I did not. answer the question of. the noble lord last night, I am sure that he will believe me when I say that it was not out of any disrespect to him or any unwilling ness to afford the house any information that it was in my power to give it, and still less from any desire to take any un fair advantage. (Hear, hear.) I did certainly wish, ina 113,3 k ter of such great importance, to have a little 'tithe to consider the course I should pursue, and to exclude thereby the possibi- May of acting under the momentary influence of temper cr disappointment. (Hear.) I also bore in mind that sometimes hasty decimations nod been made in this house, to which it was found afterwards not expedient to adhere. I had, for instance, before my mind the vote upon the malt tax last session, (a laugh,) and therefore, judging by past experience, I thought it better to take a little time to consider than to come to a hasty decision on the subject. Another reason why I aas anxious to postpone any decision on the su bj ec t was thi s, t h at t h e d e b ate had continued for three nights, that there was a pretty general expectation that it might be prottacted beyond last night as, there were sev era l p ersons w h o ' m i g h t h ave b een expected to. speak, and therefore that it was possible that a number of mem bers might have been excluded last night, who, upon another occasion, would vote with us. I wished, under these circuitY stances, to have an opportunity of ascertaining whether the di vision of last night was accidental, or a fair indication of the decision of the house. I have since made inquiries on that point, and I now do not hesitate to say that it was a fair indica tion of the sense of the house (loud cheers from the opposition) and that if I endeavoured to subvert it—a course which it we perfectly competent for me to adopt—l should not succeed. I beg to say that under such circumsranceti have n u intenti o n of but v.,rting the decision of last night, amiss if the effect of this my resolution shall be to prevent the continuance of any new de bate or further delay on this subject, it will be doubly satisfac tory to me. (Hear, hear.) Lord J. Ri , ssett, expressed his approbation of the course which the right hon. baronet proposed to pursue in this instance. He begged to give the hon. baronet notice, that, on the propo sition foe going into committee on Monday next, lie should probably feel it his duty to ask him• some 'questions respecting the rumours which had been that morning Miner as to the tip% proaching dissolution of parliament. (Hear, hear.) Sir 11, PEEL wished to know if it was the intention of the noble lord to ask him any other questions on that occasion, as in that case lie might give him a similar notice of them ? Lord J. ItUS3IiLL was not aware at present that he. had any . other questions to put to the right hou, baronet on thatoc , casion. Ale. HUME said that it had beets his intention, on the bring ing up of tae report, to address the House at some length,- but after what had been stated by the tight hon. baronet, he should alter his course, and thereby save the time of the house. He ,W no hesitation in admitting, in accordance with what had Allen from hen. members opposite, that there were great differ ences of opinion upon that as well as upon the other side of the house. But there was i5 - differeece of opinion amongst-mem bers on his (Mr. Humes) side of the house upon one point, a.ad that was their desire to remove his Majesty's present ruiuisters. (Hear.) If he had followed the 'dictates of his own, .mind, he would have thought it better that they should have_ taken a ~ 1 given to co. !Lail] "I Du 1 18t~ %err LY et the ti 31117. .~,~;-~-